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Title: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2014, 05:33:32 AM: Hey folks- it seems to me that we have a thread for just about every prog metal band of note , there's threads for Power Metal , melodic rock/AOR , Thrash (not active) and a few classic metal bands like Accept, Judas Priest etc..... have their own threads but for the most part there's a big gap when it comes to a general thread/discussion on classic hard rock and metal and uh.........I hope to fill it ;D ::) When I say "classic" hard rock and metal I'm talking about bands both past and present that play rock and metal in a style that was popular from late 70's through early 90's before the epidemic of flannelette flu devastated the music world. :angel:

Hopefully a few of the fogeys and fogeys-in- waiting who followed my Top 50 will use this thread to help to keep the discussion going here. So Chad, Kade, Paul, Tim, JJ , King ,Gaz etc......get yo' asses over here and get posting ;D

So from now on there's no need to chat melodic metal/hard rock and so forth in the AOR thread (as a few of us do) and as far as I'm concerned this thread can encompass everything from hair metal/bluesy hard rock through to the more melodic end of thrash like Megadeth/Metallica . Some bands have their own threads of course and there's inevitably some crossover between melodic rock/hard rock etc..... but at least now there can be a place for just general :metal chat

Seeing as I've started the thread I'll try and take some ownership over keeping things humming and so at least once or twice a month I intend to go back into the archives and post some scans of everything from music magazine covers , rare albums/merchandise , concert photos (TAC posted some goodies in my Top 50) and memorabilia. Hopefully we can stir up some good memories. My memorabilia collection is rather heavily weighted towards Van Halen but I'll do my best - hopefully others can contribute in that regard from time to time and lessen the reliance on me - even if it's just a cool shirt or something.

I've stumbled up a step ladder earlier today and found a few mags to get me started (back with that in the next day or so once I've done some scans ) . In the meantime here's a nice item of kitchenware I like to serve nibblies in ;D

(https://s17.postimg.org/5cvfjx4vv/dlr_plate.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5cvfjx4vv/)

PS Once I opened up the first magazine I have in mind and saw the contents ..OMG :rollin - the photos and articles are just so good/funny and bring back so many memories. I wish I could scan you guys some of the articles and photos within but I don't want any copyright trouble for myself or anyone on DTF and so I'll refrain and stick to covers , funny ads etc.... :sad: I'll try to make a couple of notes here and there on any points of interest from the articles to help generate some chat.

Top Tens Index

The thread now includes Top Tens on a variety of topics (years/bands etc....) and I will index them here , noting who the original list was contributed by and the page of the thread to refer to if you wish to view it.

Best Albums of 1980 (bl5150) pg 8

Best Albums of 1981 (bl5150) pg 9

Best Albums of 1982 (bl5150) pg 10

Best Albums of 1983 (bl5150) pg 12

Best Albums of 1984 (bl5150) pg 16

Best Albums of 1985 (bl5150) pg 20

Best Albums of 1986 (bl5150) pg 25

Best Albums of 1987 (bl5150) pg 40

PODCASTS: (note : the sound improved dramatically from around #4 or 5 onward. I hope to find time to go back and "remaster" #1-3/4)

#1 (Nov 23 2015) https://mega.nz/#!WV0nFBba!mFUfjV-xqzSS9brPbOulj29RHRkyZbcqaDGLHZPsijQ
#2 (Dec 4 2015) https://mega.nz/#!zZ1SwSpC!SOkbATnvNMJEl3Ig90WvQuAeOS7vHol60ehFylXAqOk
#3 (Dec 28 2015) https://mega.nz/#!vE0zyYbJ!960qxiulRjNVuOiOMuurYSOGLLI3inEkXrp9IkVfSTQ
#4(May 2016) https://mega.nz/#!uY800aIC!wauNkzX-lRcHE-5XqbeYmPMpHdA_1SKPZwe8Gos2pvs
#5(Sep 2016) ~~https://yadi.sk/d/RKEPh6_av3fFD~~ https://yadi.sk/d/347TnXFfv8pU4
#6 (Oct 2016 - Best of 1988 Pt 1) https://yadi.sk/d/V_2qYHdxwfuUe
#7 (Nov 2016 - Best of 1988 Pt 2) : https://yadi.sk/d/mgjVQWkuy4M7g
#8 (Feb 2017) 2016 - The Rest https://yadi.sk/d/RZpP75UQ3CPL6z TRACKLIST: https://yadi.sk/i/GCjYFSj23EFLPq
#9 (Mar 2017) Best of 2016 Countdown https://yadi.sk/d/_CM9gsFK3FXJgg TRACKLIST : https://yadi.sk/i/5Z6Z9g-s3Fvyvi
#10 (April 2017) Hard Rock Rarities #-B's https://yadi.sk/d/umAMRDez3HRyAA
#11 (May 2017) https://yadi.sk/d/vKRZGE0k3JkKHt
#12 (Sept 2017) includes Hard Rock Rarities U-Z https://yadi.sk/d/psG_0fIs3N2G3n TRACKLIST: https://yadi.sk/d/WCXdPt-P3Nximk
#13 (Dec 2018) https://yadi.sk/d/7H7xuIZ-zRG6NA TRACKLIST: https://yadi.sk/i/j6z4DLzjlqyskQ
#14 (Jan 2019) Best of 2017 - Top 40 https://yadi.sk/d/CfyozDrRUiyGhQ
#15 (Jan 2019) Best of the Rest 2017 A-K https://yadi.sk/d/1EmCkBnyo-slCg TRACKLIST : https://yadi.sk/i/MElBI6hCxuX7-A
#16 (Feb 2019) Best of the Rest 2017 L-Z
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 21, 2014, 06:57:01 AM: *goes up to attic and down to basement*
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 21, 2014, 06:57:37 AM: I'll follow. I've never really been one for memorabilia, despite being a KISS fan. I used to pick up limited editions and maybe picture disks/coloured vinyls but not since I went the cd route in 1987.

I don't have any pictures from gigs - never had a camera back in the day and I'm there for the music I suppose. TAC's pics are usually very cool - I'll look forward to those.

The drawback to this lack of collecting behaviour is that I can't remember half the gigs I've been to - who supported who, where I saw bands or even if I saw them.

- cool plate by the way Brent. I initially took it for a clear vinyl disc. My only DLR "collectable" would be the Spanish version of this very album. Thinnk I played it once and "filed" it!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2014, 07:02:00 AM: I'm a bit the same Paul - I've never been one for carrying phones/cameras around with me and , with only a couple of exceptions, I don't have much in the way of good concert photos and records of who I've seen etc... I really regret this in many cases - especially things like hanging out with someone like Jeff Scott Soto and his (then) missus before and after a gig and not even a photo to show for it ......stupid :-[ Having said that many of the gigs I went to back in the day frisked you for cameras and the like .

I do have one great photo of me shaking hands with some guy called Eddie which I hope to find (and post) on this journey through the archives. No idea where it is as it was filed God knows where during a house move.

Don't worry too much about memorabilia - it's a discussion thread which I reckon fills a gap on DTF and I'm just using memorabilia and old mags etc...... as a way to jump start things and generate some discussion/reminiscing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 21, 2014, 08:00:36 AM: I don't have a lot of time today, but I can get some things up here tomorrow.
I took a lot of pics back in the day.

Love eat 'Em And Smile. Though Van Hagar won the war, that first battle easily went to DLR. Saw Tesla for the first time open his show.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 21, 2014, 12:32:57 PM: This is already my all time favorite thread!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 21, 2014, 01:17:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2014, 07:02:00 AM
I'm a bit the same Paul - I've never been one for carrying phones/cameras around with me and , with only a couple of exceptions, I don't have much in the way of good concert photos and records of who I've seen etc... I really regret this in many cases - especially things like hanging out with someone like Jeff Scott Soto and his (then) missus before and after a gig and not even a photo to show for it ......stupid :-[ Having said that many of the gigs I went to back in the day frisked you for cameras and the like .

I do have one great photo of me shaking hands with some guy called Eddie which I hope to find (and post) on this journey through the archives. No idea where it is as it was filed God knows where during a house move.

Don't worry too much about memorabilia - it's a discussion thread which I reckon fills a gap on DTF and I'm just using memorabilia and old mags etc...... as a way to jump start things and generate some discussion/reminiscing.

Yeah the camera thing was pretty difficult here in the UK. They would be confiscated if found. Kinda put me off trying.

I love this DLR album. Vai's guitar is just so cool sounding. This was a young guy going toe to toe with the recognised metal guitar hero and winning - by a landslide.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 21, 2014, 02:20:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 21, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
This is already my all time favorite thread!
:lol
:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 21, 2014, 06:47:54 PM: How about starting this thread with a discussion on a man who unfortunately doesn't get mentioned much around DTF; the mighty Ronnie James Dio! What is everyone's top five Dio fronted albums?

Mine

1) Heaven & Hell 2) Holy Diver 3) Last in Line 4) Mob Rules 5) Rising
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2014, 06:53:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 21, 2014, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 21, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
This is already my all time favorite thread!
:lol
:metal

:metal :metal

(https://s28.postimg.org/lx7rqymgt/Powerline_Mar_1989.jpg)

OK - here's my first attempt at bringing back a few memories and what a choice I made. This magazine is the tits. Powerline was around from mid 80's - mid 90's and aside from my AOR tastes it pretty much covered everything I like with its motto of "from Glam to Slam". Check out those names on the cover :metal and a very boyish looking Zakk Wylde. I actually had a Gibson done in that design back in the day .

The edition here is March 1989 and it was a really amazing read. The are feature interviews w/cool photos with all the bands listed on the front. The reviews section has a rather glowing review for a new band with a debut album out : Dream Theatre (spelt wrong of course) . There's also an interesting ad for King Diamond's album "Them" .........King Diamond was the first Billboard charting artist for Roadrunner who are listed here as "Roadracer Records" due to a few trademark issues with a rather speedy cartoon character at the time.

The interview with Europe is rather interesting - things were obviously pretty raw between them and John Norum at the time as there's a few backhanders flying.

There's all those Colombia Record Club ads and the t-shirt company ads that I used to drool over. There's a profile on a young up and coming guitarist called Jason Becker. I could go on ...............this could be the best magazine in my collection and I grabbed it first up.

Re JJ's question.............

1) Heaven &Hell 2) Lock Up The Wolves (yeah,yeah...:) ) 3) Holy Diver 4) Sacred Heart 5) Rising

My most played would probably be LUTW.....unsurprisingly that was my first Dio album. I find that most Dio fronted albums have anywhere from 1-3 classics for me and plenty of filler. Rising gets there purely because of Stargazer, Holy Diver mostly based on Stand Up and Shout, Don't Talk To Strangers and Rainbow In The Dark (the rest I don't play) and so on. I love Dio and his best songs are among my favourites of all time - the lack of a full album of classic material to my ears is the only reason he didn't make my Top 50 albums. Top 50 songs?? .........could be a different story.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: WebRaider on September 21, 2014, 07:23:33 PM: Very cool mag and plate!

Top five Dio fronted albums?

1. Heaven & Hell
2. Holy Diver
3. Mob Rules
4. Dehumanizer
5. Strange Highways
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 21, 2014, 07:29:13 PM: I never got into Strange Highways, and still don't have his Sabbath albums (I just know the more well known tracks), but Holy Diver and The Last in Line are among my favourites.

Keeping in mind my lack of Sabbath from the list, I'd maybe go with-

Holy Diver
The Last in Line
Dehumanizer
Killing the Dragon or Lock Up The Wolves
Long Live Rock n Roll
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 21, 2014, 08:02:44 PM: Dehumanizer is a very underrated heavy metal album.

"I" is phenomenal!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 21, 2014, 09:45:09 PM: still cannot believe that version of ZW is the same person as the current model
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 21, 2014, 09:50:56 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 21, 2014, 08:02:44 PM
Dehumanizer is a very underrated heavy metal album.

"I" is phenomenal!

That's a good one, although my favourites would be Letters From Earth, Master of Insanity, and Time Machine. It's a very underrated and solid album though. Buried Alive is the only track I don't like.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 22, 2014, 03:06:16 AM: This sounds like a cool thread, so I'm in.

The only memorabilia I have though, is a guitar pick from White Lion's Vito Bratta which I caught at a concert. It was the tour for Mane attraction with Mr. Big as co-headliner. Cool concert. Oh, and I have the CD booklet of Tesla's Psychotic Supper signed by the whole band.
Zakk Wylde on that cover looks more like a young Bon Jovi than JBJ himself.
Can't comment much on Dio, as I never got around to really listen to his albums, I only know the hits.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 22, 2014, 12:56:47 PM: Did someone say Dio?

June 18, 1986
Providence Civic Center

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Dio3.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Dio3.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Dio2.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Dio2.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Dio1.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Dio1.jpg.html)

Oh, and Accept opened!
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Accept1.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Accept1.jpg.html)

Quote from: jjrock88 on September 21, 2014, 06:47:54 PM
How about starting this thread with a discussion on a man who unfortunately doesn't get mentioned much around DTF; the mighty Ronnie James Dio! What is everyone's top five Dio fronted albums?

Mine

1) Heaven & Hell 2) Holy Diver 3) Last in Line 4) Mob Rules 5) Rising

Awesome idea!!

For me:
1. Holy Diver
2. Heaven And Hell
3. Rainbow On Stage
4. The Last In Line
5. Heaven And Hell :Neon Knights Live Over Europe

Brent, Lock Up the Wolves is awesome. Wish he would've kept Rown around for a few albums. The Traci G years were a waste. Strange Highways is OK I guess but Angry Machines is his worst album.

I always thought vocally that Dio's best album was Mob Rules followed by Holy Diver. That was his peak/prime if you ask me.
But I do have a soft spot for the first Rainbow album. Love that young Ronnie voice.

I actually have a Top 30 Dio songs ranked on my computer. Gotta find it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 22, 2014, 01:03:07 PM: DIO is the voice of Metal for me :metal

1 Rainbow - Rising

2 DIO - The Last In Line
3 Rainbow - Long Live Rock n Roll
4 Black Sabbath - Heaven & Hell
5 DIO - Dream Evil

And I just don't get the love for Lock Up The Wolves. Poor album for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 22, 2014, 01:04:56 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 22, 2014, 01:03:07 PM
And I just don't get the love for Lock Up The Wolves. Poor album for me.
You know when they say that Lowdz is right 99% of the time? Well, here's the other 1%!
;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 22, 2014, 01:36:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 22, 2014, 01:04:56 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 22, 2014, 01:03:07 PM
And I just don't get the love for Lock Up The Wolves. Poor album for me.
You know when they say that Lowdz is right 99% of the time? Well, here's the other 1%!
;D

That's not a bad record to have though - unlike Lock Up The Wolves :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2014, 02:59:23 PM: I'm not much into memorabilia, but I am into classic metal and hard rock. :metal

Top 5 Dio albums, that's tough;

1. Sacred Heart
2. Holy Diver
3. Magica
4. Last In Line
5. Lock Up the Wolves or Maybe Killing the Dragon
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2014, 04:39:25 PM: Great concert pics Tim! What row were you in? That would have been a great show
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 22, 2014, 07:28:11 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2014, 02:59:23 PM

1. Sacred Heart

I reckon that album is under-rated - I actually rate it higher than Holy Diver on my % ratings due to less filler but I gave Holy Diver a higher position for "intangibles" ;D

Quote from: TAC on September 22, 2014, 12:56:47 PM

Brent, Lock Up the Wolves is awesome. Wish he would've kept Rown around for a few albums.

Great photos man - and I totally agree re Rowan. I was blown away by his playing on this album , especially given his age. It was a damn shame he just faded away. I'm not a huge fan of the Sabbathy plodders on that album but stuff like Walk On Water , Hey Angel, Wild One and Why Are They Watching Me are right up there with my favourite Dio songs.

When I was playing the one my band really enjoyed playing was this.........(good DVD this with Doug - fairly low budget but good nonetheless) Note the JP/Boston style editing stuff up at the end of the solo :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjJmTKLzMc
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2014, 04:55:56 AM: Sacred Heart is very underrated IMO, it's brilliant.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 23, 2014, 05:54:40 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 23, 2014, 04:55:56 AM
Sacred Heart is very underrated IMO, it's brilliant.

agreed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 23, 2014, 09:43:22 AM: I'll say this, Sacred Heart has aged quite well. But I clearly remember the disappoinent when it came out. It was a definite step back.
Saw both legs of the tour. The first with Vivian and then with Craig Goldie. Rough Cutt opened in '85 and the the mighty Accept opened in '86.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2014, 11:01:54 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 23, 2014, 05:54:40 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 23, 2014, 04:55:56 AM
Sacred Heart is very underrated IMO, it's brilliant.

agreed.
I agree with this. A couple of less stellar tracks but they aren't bad enough to bring the album down. Dream Evil is even better though I never liked the guitar sound nor rated Craig Goldy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 23, 2014, 03:09:21 PM: (https://www.ioffer.com/img/item/174/871/689/kH7QesaiOs3Trl4.jpg)(https://cdn-5.create.net/siteimages/5/5/8/55872/24/1/6/2416218/241x313.jpg)
(https://www.vinylvendors.com/Pictures/d/i/dio463696.jpg)

:metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 23, 2014, 03:52:15 PM: Man I lived of Kerrang as a teen. So much better than Circus and Hit Parader that had the same pics and the same quotes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2014, 04:28:09 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on September 23, 2014, 03:52:15 PM
Man I lived of Kerrang as a teen. So much better than Circus and Hit Parader that had the same pics and the same quotes.

Bought Kerrang from the first Gene Simmons fronted issue until they abandoned the music that made them and embraced Grunge - and they gave Def Leppard so much stick for "going American". Hypocrits.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 23, 2014, 09:09:46 PM: The only Dio album that I could never fully get into was "Angry Machines". I still listen to it once in awhile, but it would be my least played album from him.

Also have to say that one of his catchiest and most underrated gems has to be " Lady of the Lake" from Rainbow. Love that song and could listen to it on loop
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2014, 05:14:02 AM: Master of the Moon was the only one that I didn't really dig. I should get it out and have another listen though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2014, 05:19:21 AM: 1. Holy Diver
2. Last In Line
3a. Lock Up The Wolves
3b. Dream Evil
3c. Sacred Heart
6. Magica
7. Strange Highways
8. Killing The Dragon
9. Master Of The Moon
10. Angry Machines
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2014, 05:33:37 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 24, 2014, 05:19:21 AM
1. Holy Diver
2. Last In Line
3a. Lock Up The Wolves
3b. Dream Evil
3c. Sacred Heart
6. Imagica
7. Strange Highways
8. Killing The Dragons
9. Master Of The Moon
10. Angry Machines

Don't know that one. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2014, 06:01:46 AM: Fixed!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 24, 2014, 06:12:09 AM: There's no mention of a vocalist on the Aussie Malmsteen tour - please don't tell me he's going to attempt it himself? ::)

Either way - couldn't be stuffed going to see him widdle diddle all over the top of the remnants of songs these days.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2014, 06:28:28 AM: Last In Line tour stub

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Dio8-20-84_zps17c25d15.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Dio8-20-84_zps17c25d15.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2014, 07:13:34 AM: New AC/DC album on Novenber 28th.
Malcolm Young has OFFICIALY retired.
https://bravewords.com/news/ac-dc-to-release-rock-or-bust-on-november-28th-malcolm-young-officially-retires-from-band
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2014, 07:17:39 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 24, 2014, 06:01:46 AM
Fixed!

You might want to fix up Killing the Dragon while you're at it. :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2014, 07:35:19 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2014, 07:17:39 AM
Quote from: TAC on September 24, 2014, 06:01:46 AM
Fixed!

You might want to fix up Killing the Dragon while you're at it. :P
Damn it was a rough morning. Freaking iPhone!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 24, 2014, 08:10:42 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 24, 2014, 07:13:34 AM
New AC/DC album on Novenber 28th.
Malcolm Young has OFFICIALY retired.
https://bravewords.com/news/ac-dc-to-release-rock-or-bust-on-november-28th-malcolm-young-officially-retires-from-band

Sad for Malcolm and I always thought that they would call it a day if one of the core members (meaning Angus, Malcolm or Brian) retires. And I'm not sure if I'm really excited about a new AC/DC.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2014, 08:15:21 AM: I'll give it a listen. Black Ice was pretty good, but at 15 tracks it was way too long with too much filler. I'd say it's 8 songs deep, which was easily twice what Stiff Upper Lip and Ballbreaker were. And The Razor's Edge for that matter.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 24, 2014, 08:40:05 AM: The Razor's Edge was the last album I really enjoyed, though there are some filler tracks. Stiff Upper Lip and Ballbreaker were merely decent and I must confess I haven't listened to Black Ice. I really like AC/DC but because everything sounds similar I don't need to have the whole discography. That said, I will surely give the new one a listen.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 24, 2014, 01:58:40 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 24, 2014, 06:12:09 AM
There's no mention of a vocalist on the Aussie Malmsteen tour - please don't tell me he's going to attempt it himself? ::)

Either way - couldn't be stuffed going to see him widdle diddle all over the top of the remnants of songs these days.

I think that's been the way of it recently. Mainly instrumental with Yngwie murdering some vocals. Truly sad. To become that great he must have had discipline but there has been no discipline in his playing or recording for decades now.
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Post by: TAC on September 24, 2014, 02:55:40 PM: Ronnie Munroe leaves Metal Church
https://bravewords.com/news/ronny-munroe-leaves-metal-church-to-pursue-other-interests
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Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2014, 04:16:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 24, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 24, 2014, 06:12:09 AM
There's no mention of a vocalist on the Aussie Malmsteen tour - please don't tell me he's going to attempt it himself? ::)

Either way - couldn't be stuffed going to see him widdle diddle all over the top of the remnants of songs these days.

I think that's been the way of it recently. Mainly instrumental with Yngwie murdering some vocals. Truly sad. To become that great he must have had discipline but there has been no discipline in his playing or recording for decades now.

It's the keyboardist that does most of the vocals since Ripper left/fired. I won't bother this time.

Although looking at a setlist from earlier in the year, it's a pretty decent set by Yngwie standards these days;

Rising Force
Spellbound
Razor Eater
Evil Eye
Ouverture / From a Thousand Cuts / Arpeggios from Hell
Seventh Sign
Badinere / Adagio / Far Beyond the Sun
Anthem
Acoustic Paraphrase
Dreaming (Tell Me) / Into Valhalla
Baroque & Roll
Cherokee Warrior
(chorus, verse, chorus x2, end)
Trilogy Suite Op: 5 / GTR Solo / Blues
Drum Solo / Heaven Tonight
Black Star
I'll See the Light Tonight
Accapella Verse
Smash
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 24, 2014, 06:06:12 PM: I'd like to know the story behind Ripper leaving. I wonder if he quit or was fired. Either way, I didn't think that Yngwie and Ripper were that great of a match; something seemed a bit off.

I'm with Kwyjibo, Razors Edge was the last ACDC album that I really liked. Not likely to get this new one. For me, my interest in ACDC is 80% Bon Scott era. Let there Be Rock the movie is awesome/hilarious.

I wonder if Mike Howe would be available/able to make a return to Metal Church?
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Post by: bl5150 on September 24, 2014, 06:19:50 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 24, 2014, 06:06:12 PM

I wonder if Mike Howe would be available/able to make a return to Metal Church?

The material since Howe left has been decent at best , but that would really get my interest. Whether the voice is still there after all this time , who knows?
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Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2014, 07:58:41 PM: I've never followed Metal Church that closely, but the few album I have are really good.

Quote from: jjrock88 on September 24, 2014, 06:06:12 PM
I'd like to know the story behind Ripper leaving. I wonder if he quit or was fired. Either way, I didn't think that Yngwie and Ripper were that great of a match; something seemed a bit off.

I think Malmsteen just stopped calling Tim.
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Post by: TAC on September 25, 2014, 05:18:09 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 24, 2014, 06:06:12 PM
I'd like to know the story behind Ripper leaving. I wonder if he quit or was fired. Either way, I didn't think that Yngwie and Ripper were that great of a match; something seemed a bit off.

I'm with Kwyjibo, Razors Edge was the last ACDC album that I really liked. Not likely to get this new one. For me, my interest in ACDC is 80% Bon Scott era. Let there Be Rock the movie is awesome/hilarious.

I wonder if Mike Howe would be available/able to make a return to Metal Church?

I thought Perpetual Flame was awesome.

The last AC/DC album that I really liked was Blow Up Your Video. Criminaklly underrated. I never really liked Razor's Edge. I'd take Black Ice any day over it.

Mike Howe..did he do anything after Metal Church. Those 3 albums are great. I onlygot one Munroe era album, This present Wasteland. made a blind buy og it. Listened to it once or maybe twice.
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Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2014, 05:30:36 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2014, 05:18:09 AM
I thought Perpetual Flame was awesome.

Same. It's actually one I like to go back to quite regulary when it comes to Yngwie. Relentless would have been a lot better if he got Ripper in the studio and did some more vocal songs. Instrumental Yngwie just doesn't really do it for me these days, not that many songs anyway.
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Post by: Bolsters on September 25, 2014, 06:15:18 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2014, 05:18:09 AM
The last AC/DC album that I really liked was Blow Up Your Video. Criminaklly underrated. I never really liked Razor's Edge. I'd take Black Ice any day over it.
Never liked Blow Up Your Video, but I agree with you about Razor's Edge. Besides just a few really good songs, the rest is pure filler.

I've always liked Ballbreaker, though. I think that one's pretty underrated.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 25, 2014, 06:38:34 AM: Perpetual Flame is an awesome album. "Red Devil" is such a catchy song.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 25, 2014, 04:37:51 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 25, 2014, 06:38:34 AM
Perpetual Flame is an awesome album. "Red Devil" is such a catchy song.

Apart from the odd song here and there nothing Yngwie has done since Facing The Animal has done anything for me. Haven't even bought the last 4-5.
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Post by: TAC on September 26, 2014, 11:04:54 AM: Can't link from my phone but it's being reported that Malcom Young's "illness" is that he's suffering from dementia. At only 61 that is very sad. He's in full time health care.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 26, 2014, 12:41:53 PM: Terrible news
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Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2014, 01:27:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 26, 2014, 11:04:54 AM
Can't link from my phone but it's being reported that Malcom Young's "illness" is that he's suffering from dementia. At only 61 that is very sad. He's in full time health care.

I work with people with dementia. 61 is young but certainly not unique. Youngest person with a dementia I've nursed was 36.

I'm guessing that he was a drinker and that can lead to certain types of dementia.

It certainly does suck. Awful disease.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 26, 2014, 01:31:33 PM: Lowdz, I'm sure it can't be completely cured but can it be stabilized?
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Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2014, 02:17:35 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 26, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
Lowdz, I'm sure it can't be completely cured but can it be stabilized?

There are some medications for Alzheimer's but that's only one of the dementias. And yes they can slow the rate of deterioration in some people. No cure as yet. Hopefully there won't be one until I get to retire :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2014, 05:28:18 PM: That's terrible news.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 01, 2014, 11:26:24 PM: I'm very late to the party I know but I just got through my first listen to Redeemer of Souls and I'm not sure where it sits just yet. Based on songs alone I think it's good enough to squeeze into my top few Priest albums but the rhythm guitar sound is that muddy that it strips away a lot of the edge that the songs otherwise might have had.

Until I can unpack a few other items I'll stick with a topical mag cover (May 1985 .............must've just about been my first music mag ) - check out the names on that thing :metal Pick the odd one out (yes he did rock a little at one point ) :D

(https://s18.postimg.org/j6j1sn0t5/priest.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 01, 2014, 11:30:43 PM: Michael Bolton! :metal

That Hagar centerfold sounds pretty damn sexy too.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 01, 2014, 11:34:55 PM: (https://read.mtvhive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Hagar-Trans-Am630x300.jpg)

That's not the one , but thought you might like it Blob ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 01, 2014, 11:37:19 PM: :zydar: Needs more noodle hair.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 02, 2014, 12:18:46 AM: You just gotta love those haircuts :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 02, 2014, 08:28:42 AM: How the hell is Michael Bolton's name on Hit Parader??

Brent, I'm on pins and needles! Who won between Judas Priest and Iron Maiden? Who rules Heavy Metal?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 02, 2014, 08:40:10 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 02, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
How the hell is Michael Bolton's name on Hit Parader??

Brent, I'm on pins and needles! Who won between Judas Priest and Iron Maiden? Who rules Heavy Metal?

Unfortunately JJ it was one of those articles that goes through the arguments but doesn't really give a definitive winner - IMHO they were more positive towards Maiden.

As far as Michael Bolton goes he did rock a bit in a band called Blackjack prior to his crappy pop stuff and he basically disowns his rock stuff , so you'd never know unless you have it /know of it already. He also had a couple of solo albums which I'd class as melodic rock - Everybody's Crazy (also 1985) is considered a bit of a (lite) melodic rock classic and features Bruce Kulick on guitar which is perhaps the connection that got him into Hit Parader

Save Our Love : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqLBcjWmDO0

Too pissweak for you JJ but Kulick does okay on the guitars
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2014, 01:56:15 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 02, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
How the hell is Michael Bolton's name on Hit Parader??

Brent, I'm on pins and needles! Who won between Judas Priest and Iron Maiden? Who rules Heavy Metal?
:lol

also
Ratt: Speak Out..

..about what??
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 03, 2014, 02:14:07 PM: I've never heard of the band "The Firm"; they are listed with big company on the cover. Anyone heard of them?
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Post by: Lowdz on October 03, 2014, 04:01:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 03, 2014, 02:14:07 PM
I've never heard of the band "The Firm"; they are listed with big company on the cover. Anyone heard of them?

I guess it would be the Jimmy Page and paul Rodgers band. They weren't great.
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2014, 05:18:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 02, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
How the hell is Michael Bolton's name on Hit Parader??

Brent, I'm on pins and needles! Who won between Judas Priest and Iron Maiden? Who rules Heavy Metal?

His early stuff is decent enough. Wouldn't be up your alley though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 03, 2014, 09:30:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 03, 2014, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 02, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
How the hell is Michael Bolton's name on Hit Parader??

Brent, I'm on pins and needles! Who won between Judas Priest and Iron Maiden? Who rules Heavy Metal?

His early stuff is decent enough. Wouldn't be up your alley though.

Yeah I checked out the link that Brent shared. Song was turned off 15 seconds in.
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2014, 01:20:32 PM: Released 35 years ago yesterday

(https://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/6d/fa/1372542313_5376_Riot.jpg?itok=ZLRRBGw0)

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2014, 01:26:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2014, 01:20:32 PM
Released 35 years ago yesterday

(https://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/6d/fa/1372542313_5376_Riot.jpg?itok=ZLRRBGw0)

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

What the hell were they smoking when they came up with that cover? :biggrin:
Great album though.
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2014, 01:32:36 PM: I bought Narita the same day I bought Piece Of Mind. Major haul!! :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2014, 02:57:47 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 06, 2014, 05:07:38 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 04, 2014, 07:30:18 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 04, 2014, 02:55:20 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 04, 2014, 01:49:08 PM
Tim, go check some of The Lord stuff. Great material. I think it's on Grooveshark.
I ordered Digital Lies today. Holy Shiite!

And that's not even their best. Give Set in Stone a spin. Top 50 (v2) worthy over here.

Fuck yeah to all of this. Digital Lies was amazing but I agree with Chad that Set in Stone tops it. Ascendance has some really great songs too and is worth a listen. All the Dungeon stuff IMO is worth it, I can't wait for my boxset.

Digital Lies shipped today. Should have it this week. Will get Set In Stone next then.

I checked the link to the Dungeon stuff. $80?? Yikes.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 06, 2014, 02:58:37 PM: Riot's a great band. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people passed on the band based on their album covers.

The album Fire Down Under is major kick ass and my favorite from the band.
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Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2014, 03:54:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2014, 02:57:47 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 06, 2014, 05:07:38 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 04, 2014, 07:30:18 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 04, 2014, 02:55:20 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 04, 2014, 01:49:08 PM
Tim, go check some of The Lord stuff. Great material. I think it's on Grooveshark.
I ordered Digital Lies today. Holy Shiite!

And that's not even their best. Give Set in Stone a spin. Top 50 (v2) worthy over here.

Fuck yeah to all of this. Digital Lies was amazing but I agree with Chad that Set in Stone tops it. Ascendance has some really great songs too and is worth a listen. All the Dungeon stuff IMO is worth it, I can't wait for my boxset.

Digital Lies shipped today. Should have it this week. Will get Set In Stone next then.

I checked the link to the Dungeon stuff. $80?? Yikes.

yeah, it's a little pricey, but for the content, I have no problem with the cost. You'll love Set in Stone.

Quote from: jjrock88 on October 06, 2014, 02:58:37 PM
Riot's a great band. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people passed on the band based on their album covers.

The album Fire Down Under is major kick ass and my favorite from the band.

I only know a couple of albums by Riot, but Fire Down Under is indeed amazing.
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2014, 04:01:32 PM: $80 was about twice what I was expecting. Hopefully it'll show up on Amazon or something.

Looking forward to discovering Lord. Man the samples sounded incredible.
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Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2014, 04:13:54 PM: Don't know if it will be released outside as it says it's strictly limited to 500 copies. As I said though, it would be cool if they release each disc seperately.
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2014, 06:00:00 PM: Looks like a hell of a package coming from Saxon:
https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-warriors-of-the-road-the-saxon-chronicles-part-ii-dvd-cd-set-due-in-november-world-tour-teaser-videos-streaming
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Post by: bl5150 on October 06, 2014, 06:36:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 06, 2014, 02:58:37 PM
Riot's a great band.

Definitely under rated and I also like a lot of the stuff Reale did with Westworld. They have some albums I love and some albums (+ covers :D) that I'm not too hot on , but overall ...... :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 06, 2014, 06:50:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2014, 06:00:00 PM
Looks like a hell of a package coming from Saxon:
https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-warriors-of-the-road-the-saxon-chronicles-part-ii-dvd-cd-set-due-in-november-world-tour-teaser-videos-streaming

looks awesome!!
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Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2014, 09:54:18 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2014, 06:00:00 PM
Looks like a hell of a package coming from Saxon:
https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-warriors-of-the-road-the-saxon-chronicles-part-ii-dvd-cd-set-due-in-november-world-tour-teaser-videos-streaming

Wow, this is a must buy.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 07, 2014, 11:55:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 06, 2014, 09:54:18 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2014, 06:00:00 PM
Looks like a hell of a package coming from Saxon:
https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-warriors-of-the-road-the-saxon-chronicles-part-ii-dvd-cd-set-due-in-november-world-tour-teaser-videos-streaming

Wow, this is a must buy.

Sounds good.
Looks like i may have to go and see them at Manchester too.
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Post by: TAC on October 07, 2014, 03:48:40 PM: New AC/DC track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIE8F_OL_Ds

No surprises there. :lol
Actually reminds me of the latter Bon Scott era. The guitar tones just feel a little warmer.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 07, 2014, 05:24:46 PM: ACDC by the numbers
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Post by: bl5150 on October 07, 2014, 05:32:09 PM: I would expect nothing less :D
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Post by: TAC on October 07, 2014, 05:46:40 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 07, 2014, 05:24:46 PM
ACDC by the numbers
ACDC is all letters tho. ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 07, 2014, 06:29:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 07, 2014, 05:24:46 PM
ACDC by the numbers

I'd be pissed off if we got anything else from them! "It it ain't broke, don't fix it" :lol

Song sounds decent. It's AC/DC being AC/DC.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 07, 2014, 09:53:59 PM: Wow... how did 3 pages slip by me. Have been busy as shit at work I guess. Well, nothing really to add, just posting so this shows up in my 'feed'.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2014, 12:14:38 AM: Chad, I was wondering when you were going to show up lol
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Post by: gazinwales on October 08, 2014, 03:29:16 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 02, 2014, 08:40:10 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 02, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
How the hell is Michael Bolton's name on Hit Parader??

Brent, I'm on pins and needles! Who won between Judas Priest and Iron Maiden? Who rules Heavy Metal?

Unfortunately JJ it was one of those articles that goes through the arguments but doesn't really give a definitive winner - IMHO they were more positive towards Maiden.

As far as Michael Bolton goes he did rock a bit in a band called Blackjack prior to his crappy pop stuff and he basically disowns his rock stuff , so you'd never know unless you have it /know of it already. He also had a couple of solo albums which I'd class as melodic rock - Everybody's Crazy (also 1985) is considered a bit of a (lite) melodic rock classic and features Bruce Kulick on guitar which is perhaps the connection that got him into Hit Parader

Save Our Love : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqLBcjWmDO0

Too pissweak for you JJ but Kulick does okay on the guitars

Yeah his first 2 solo albums are considered by many to be AOR/melodic rock classics, I am one of those.
He was also a pretty decent guitarist back in those days too.
A real shame that he has disowned them, but I guess he has found his sound and market.
this is a real fave of mine :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NukzQZM-1Qk
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2014, 07:48:28 AM: Listening to Lord's Digital Lies. Wow, this album is fu#king awesome!
The Last Encore :metal

How have I never come across this band before?
This band is right in the TAC wheelhouse.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2014, 12:56:12 PM: I'ma gonna have to go back and have a listen. While I enjoyed it, I was a little disappointed in it relative to Set in Stone and Ascendance.
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2014, 02:52:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 09, 2014, 07:48:28 AM
Listening to Lord's Digital Lies. Wow, this album is fu#king awesome!
The Last Encore :metal

How have I never come across this band before?
This band is right in the TAC wheelhouse.

The Last Encore is definitely the best song on the album. Other highlights are the title track, Battle and of course Prophet.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 09, 2014, 03:55:44 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2014, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 09, 2014, 07:48:28 AM
Listening to Lord's Digital Lies. Wow, this album is fu#king awesome!
The Last Encore :metal

How have I never come across this band before?
This band is right in the TAC wheelhouse.

The Last Encore is definitely the best song on the album. Other highlights are the title track, Battle and of course Prophet.

Wow. Just wow. Great album.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2014, 08:03:30 AM: I'll keep a few of the knick knacks /mags coming..........

This barely sneaks in as hard rock but one of the few interesting non VH items in my collection is this Europe OOTW vinyl. I have little in the way of vinyl relatively speaking (I grew up in the era of cassettes :tdwn ) - I picked this up for a couple of bucks "as new" in a used store in the late 80's and have since seen it go for some decent bucks ($150 or so)

It's a radio station promo issued at the Epic world premiere weekend for the album , which as you can imagine was pretty big after The Final Countdown. It comes in a gatefold double LP and contains the regular tracks separated with "instrumental beds" from the album and includes some interviews/comments from the band.

I don't have a turntable at the moment so couldn't listen if I wanted to.

(https://s.pixogs.com/image/R-4228220-1361314970-3610.jpeg)

(https://s.pixogs.com/image/R-4228220-1361314983-5857.jpeg)
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Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2014, 08:33:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2014, 08:03:30 AM
I'll keep a few of the knick knacks /mags coming..........

This barely sneaks in as hard rock but one of the few interesting non VH items in my collection is this Europe OOTW vinyl. I have little in the way of vinyl relatively speaking (I grew up in the era of cassettes :tdwn ) - I picked this up for a couple of bucks "as new" in a used store in the late 80's and have since seen it go for some decent bucks ($150 or so)

It's a radio station promo issued at the Epic world premiere weekend for the album , which as you can imagine was pretty big after The Final Countdown. It comes in a gatefold double LP and contains the regular tracks separated with "instrumental beds" from the album and includes some interviews/comments from the band.

I don't have a turntable at the moment so couldn't listen if I wanted to.

(https://s.pixogs.com/image/R-4228220-1361314970-3610.jpeg)

(https://s.pixogs.com/image/R-4228220-1361314983-5857.jpeg)

Canb't see the pics for some reason but sounds interesting. I have OOTW on red vinyl from back on release. I haven't owned a turntable for 20 years or so.
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2014, 01:29:17 PM: I saw Europe on the Final Countdown tour.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2014, 01:32:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2014, 01:29:17 PM
I saw Europe on the Final Countdown tour.

And it was so overwhelming that you couldn't wait to tell us all about it :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2014, 01:34:30 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 12, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2014, 01:29:17 PM
I saw Europe on the Final Countdown tour.

And it was so overwhelming that you couldn't wait to tell us all about it :lol

Yup, been holding that secret for 26 years!

It was actually cool seeing them. Opened for Def Leppard. I kinda enjoyed that album. It was so damn popular at the time.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 12, 2014, 03:29:25 PM: The album "wings of tommorow" by Europe is a very good release; pretty heavy too. The Final Countdown is getting pretty sappy, but still good.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2014, 07:51:26 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 12, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
The album "wings of tommorow" by Europe is a very good release; pretty heavy too. The Final Countdown is getting pretty sappy, but still good.

PoP for the win!

Their 2000s stuff was surprisingly good too. I still have never heard Wings of Tomorrow. Gotta fix that.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2014, 03:45:01 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 12, 2014, 07:51:26 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 12, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
The album "wings of tommorow" by Europe is a very good release; pretty heavy too. The Final Countdown is getting pretty sappy, but still good.

PoP for the win!

Their 2000s stuff was surprisingly good too. I still have never heard Wings of Tomorrow. Gotta fix that.

I agree with my Cannuck friend. PoP is their best - made my top 50. Wings Of Tomorrow is very good too.
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Post by: bosk1 on October 13, 2014, 05:17:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 22, 2014, 12:56:47 PM
Did someone say Dio?

June 18, 1986
Providence Civic Center

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Dio3.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Dio3.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Dio2.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Dio2.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Dio1.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Dio1.jpg.html)

Oh, and Accept opened!
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Accept1.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Accept1.jpg.html)

Quote from: jjrock88 on September 21, 2014, 06:47:54 PM
How about starting this thread with a discussion on a man who unfortunately doesn't get mentioned much around DTF; the mighty Ronnie James Dio! What is everyone's top five Dio fronted albums?

Mine

1) Heaven & Hell 2) Holy Diver 3) Last in Line 4) Mob Rules 5) Rising

Awesome idea!!

For me:
1. Holy Diver
2. Heaven And Hell
3. Rainbow On Stage
4. The Last In Line
5. Heaven And Hell :Neon Knights Live Over Europe

Brent, Lock Up the Wolves is awesome. Wish he would've kept Rown around for a few albums. The Traci G years were a waste. Strange Highways is OK I guess but Angry Machines is his worst album.

I always thought vocally that Dio's best album was Mob Rules followed by Holy Diver. That was his peak/prime if you ask me.
But I do have a soft spot for the first Rainbow album. Love that young Ronnie voice.

I actually have a Top 30 Dio songs ranked on my computer. Gotta find it.

Wow, I think I just got a contact high from looking at those pics, Tim. :lol

Can't remember if I've ever posted it on this forum, but this thread seems like the appropriate place... First concert ever: Kick Axe on the Vices tour, opening for Whitesnake on the Slide It In tour, opening for the headliner, Quiet Riot on the Condition Critical tour at the Oakland Coliseum. According to SetlistFM, this show was on September 22, 1984. That sounds about right.

No set list available for Quiet Riot, but Whitesnake's looks pretty good: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/whitesnake/1984/oakland-alameda-county-coliseum-arena-oakland-ca-2bd08402.html

I remember they put on a great show, but I did not really know their songs at the time, so I cannot say if that is accurate (other than the songs from Slide It In, which I do recall).

No set list available for Kick Axe either, but I believe they may have played Heavy Metal Shuffle, Vices, Dreamin' About You, and Alive and Kickin', among others.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 13, 2014, 05:23:55 PM: It's always interesting looking back and seeing which band opened for another. Whitesnake opening for Quiet Riot sounds very out of place now. I remember reading Bon Jovi opened for Ratt in the early 80s as well as Metallica opening for Metal Church. Tons of examples I'm sure where the opening band went onto much greater success than their headliners.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2014, 05:26:14 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on October 13, 2014, 05:17:16 PM

Wow, I think I just got a contact high from looking at those pics, Tim. :lol

Can't remember if I've ever posted it on this forum, but this thread seems like the appropriate place... First concert ever: Kick Axe on the Vices tour, opening for Whitesnake on the Slide It In tour, opening for the headliner, Quiet Riot on the Condition Critical tour at the Oakland Coliseum. According to SetlistFM, this show was on September 22, 1984. That sounds about right.

No set list available for Quiet Riot, but Whitesnake's looks pretty good: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/whitesnake/1984/oakland-alameda-county-coliseum-arena-oakland-ca-2bd08402.html

I remember they put on a great show, but I did not really know their songs at the time, so I cannot say if that is accurate (other than the songs from Slide It In, which I do recall).

No set list available for Kick Axe either, but I believe they may have played Heavy Metal Shuffle, Vices, Dreamin' About You, and Alive and Kickin', among others.

:lol

You've mentioned to me about that show. That was a great lineup.
That was the day I turned 16.

My first show:
Def Leppard
Krokus
Gary Moore

June 25, 1983
Cape Cod Coliseum

Quote from: jjrock88 on October 13, 2014, 05:23:55 PM
I remember reading Bon Jovi opened for Ratt in the early 80s as
I remember the Ratt/Bon Jovi tour. I didn;t go. Hated Ratt. Saw Bon Jovi on June 9th, 1984 open for Scorpions though. they were awesome!
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Post by: bosk1 on October 13, 2014, 05:27:19 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 13, 2014, 05:23:55 PM
It's always interesting looking back and seeing which band opened for another. Whitesnake opening for Quiet Riot sounds very out of place now.

Really? I thought they actually matched up pretty well in terms of the style of music, fans, general attitude, etc.

In doing a quick Google search (I was actually looking for something else), I accidentally found an old forum post of MINE that reveals that I guess I actually DID post about that show before: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=19986.80;imode
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 13, 2014, 05:44:44 PM: I wasn't referring to the music match up, they would be a good match. I was just saying that in retrospect Whitesnake is a much bigger act and today, it would seem out of place that they would have opened up for Quiet Riot.
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Post by: bosk1 on October 13, 2014, 05:53:00 PM: Oh, I see. Yeah, that's true. But at the time, QR were burning up the charts, and Whitesnake was just barely becoming known in the U.S.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 13, 2014, 06:13:35 PM: I remember watchng a behind the music on Quiet Riot. They sure didn't do themselves any favours, especially Kevin, with the egos. Kevin pretty much bashed all other bands and it got to the point that nobody wanted anything to do with them. They had a damn good short stretch of success though!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2014, 07:09:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 13, 2014, 06:13:35 PM
They had a damn good short stretch of success though!

Singing Slade songs yeah ;D

Another interesting thought (along with support bands etc...) can be what bands would've sounded like with guitarists that were on board early in the piece but left ( Randy Rhoads in Quiet Riot , Jake E Lee in Ratt or even George Lynch with Ozzy..........he as good as had the gig for Bark At The Moon after Randy died but it didn't happen obviously)
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Post by: TAC on October 17, 2014, 12:50:38 PM: Original Dio band signs with Frontiers.
My question is who the hell is Andrew Freeman?
https://bravewords.com/news/last-in-line-featuring-former-dio-members-sign-with-frontiers
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 17, 2014, 03:20:24 PM: That's interesting. I wonder if they are just going to focus on new material or rerecord Dio tracks.
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Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2014, 04:56:04 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 17, 2014, 03:20:24 PM
That's interesting. I wonder if they are just going to focus on new material or rerecord Dio tracks.

I really hope it's just new material. Has potential.

Quote from: TAC on October 17, 2014, 12:50:38 PM
Original Dio band signs with Frontiers.
My question is who the hell is Andrew Freeman?
https://bravewords.com/news/last-in-line-featuring-former-dio-members-sign-with-frontiers

Yeah, no idea who he is.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 17, 2014, 07:06:36 PM: I assume it's going to be new material, and that the name is simply for recognition, like "Heaven and Hell".
No idea who the vocalist is, but given the rest of the band, I'm very curious to hear what comes from this.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 18, 2014, 07:44:51 AM: If memory serves Freeman sang with "Hurricane" (Hurricane = Hansen as far as I'm concerned) in recent years and has also toured with Lynch. I imagine there might be some live stuff from Hurricane in recent years on Youtube?
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Post by: Lowdz on October 18, 2014, 08:08:15 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 18, 2014, 07:44:51 AM
If memory serves Freeman sang with "Hurricane" (Hurricane = Hansen as far as I'm concerned) in recent years and has also toured with Lynch. I imagine there might be some live stuff from Hurricane in recent years on Youtube?

That's right. He's been doing the Raiding The Rock Vault thing in Vegas too. He's no DIO, but then who is?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 22, 2014, 09:21:55 AM: Time for another little bit of time travel - this little gem has a story on just about any rock/metal band of significance in the 80's. As per usual a cool trip down memory lane. The centrefold in this one might be of more interest Blob ;)

(https://www.vinylvendors.com/Pictures/m/o/motleycrue352863.jpg)
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Post by: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:43:37 AM: Along those lines, I have to give a plug for 1989 as "year of the supergroups." If memory serves, we had debut albums from a bunch that year (or, in the case of Slaughter, I think they formed in '89 and released their album in early '90), including:

Badlands
Blue Murder
Mr. Big
Slaughter
Damn Yankees

Am I missing any?
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Post by: TAC on October 22, 2014, 09:45:46 AM: Ahh, the Hit Parader yearbook. Where they basically reprint an article from as many bands as possible that they wrote about that year. I will say that the Hit Parader Yearbook of 1981 basically became my bible.

Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
Along those lines, I have to give a plug for 1989 as "year of the supergroups." If memory serves, we had debut albums from a bunch that year (or, in the case of Slaughter, I think they formed in '89 and released their album in early '90), including:

Badlands
Blue Murder
Mr. Big
Slaughter
Damn Yankees

Am I missing any?

And they were all quite disapponting to say the least. Slaughter doesn't belong in that group though.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 22, 2014, 09:46:34 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
Along those lines, I have to give a plug for 1989 as "year of the supergroups." If memory serves, we had debut albums from a bunch that year (or, in the case of Slaughter, I think they formed in '89 and released their album in early '90), including:

Badlands
Blue Murder
Mr. Big
Slaughter
Damn Yankees

Am I missing any?

Bad English (barely scrapes in as rock I know )
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Post by: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:52:12 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2014, 09:45:46 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
Along those lines, I have to give a plug for 1989 as "year of the supergroups." If memory serves, we had debut albums from a bunch that year (or, in the case of Slaughter, I think they formed in '89 and released their album in early '90), including:

Badlands
Blue Murder
Mr. Big
Slaughter
Damn Yankees

Am I missing any?

And they were all quite disapponting to say the least. Slaughter doesn't belong in that group though.

Wow, you really thought so? I REALLY liked Badlands and Blue Murder. Some of the best music to come out of the late '80s if you ask me. And while I personally didn't care for the other three, I still give them props for putting out some good music and doing well commercially.

Bad English never ended up on my radar for some reason. I'm not sure if I ever heard anything from their two albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 22, 2014, 09:58:08 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:52:12 AM
I'm not sure if I ever heard anything from their two albums.

You would've heard the ballad When I See You Smile which had saturation coverage - couldn't get away from it.

Each of the bands you mentioned has material I like but all of them possibly should've been better than they were.
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Post by: TAC on October 22, 2014, 10:07:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 22, 2014, 09:58:08 AM

Each of the bands you mentioned has material I like but all of them possibly should've been better than they were.

Possibly? That's the understatement of the year!

Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:52:12 AM
Wow, you really thought so? I REALLY liked Badlands and Blue Murder. Some of the best music to come out of the late '80s if you ask me. And while I personally didn't care for the other three, I still give them props for putting out some good music and doing well commercially.

With the exception of Slaughter, I bought the debuts of every band you listed. I was less than impressed and probably liked only a song or two from each. Now I haven't heard any of them in ages, so I really can't comment on anything specific.

As far as Badlands, to me, Jake E Lee was immortalized on Bark At The Moon, and this was the farthest thing from it. Same with Blue Murder. I wanted Sykes tearing it up on some upbeat tunes. Both , as far as I remember, were both mid tempo plodders.
Mr. Big, was the biggest waste of talent.
Of the four, I listened to Damn Yankees the most, but in the end, I never blinked when their next album came out.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 22, 2014, 10:16:12 AM: You should check out some of the non-plodder tracks from Badlands and Blue Murder TAC............for example Hard Driver (Badlands) / Black Hearted Woman and Billy (Blue Murder)

Badlands was always intended to be bluesy , laid back rock for the most part though. I was devastated when Jake changed course as I was obsessed with the guy's playing in Ozzy.

Blue Murder would've been better if Sykes had let someone else in to do vocals - he does a decent job but I think he just took on too much there and the songwriting suffered. There were demos done with both Ray Gillen and Mark Free - both of which I'd kill to hear. The 2nd album is absolute shite. Sykes would have to go down as one of the biggest displays of unfulfilled talent ever.

Damn Yankees were hit and miss - I'm surprised they're your favourite of the bunch as they're the (equal) "poppiest" in my eyes.

Mr Big were a bit the same - I was surprised how little they rocked given the lineup.

I'm actually a fan of a couple of Slaughter's lesser known albums like Fear No Evil and especially The Wild Life. Some great songs on those - also plenty of filler.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 22, 2014, 10:26:37 AM: Both Badlands and Blue Murder have some good tracks. Ray has a great voice and I bought the deluxe version of Sabbaths Seventh Star a couple of years ago and it was interesting hearing Ray sing for Sabbath in a live setting.

Very little interest in the other bands mentioned; Slaughter is just way too chick rock for me.
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Post by: TAC on October 22, 2014, 10:32:36 AM: I agree about Sykes' vocals. They were terrible. An instant turn off.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2014, 10:35:25 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
Along those lines, I have to give a plug for 1989 as "year of the supergroups." If memory serves, we had debut albums from a bunch that year (or, in the case of Slaughter, I think they formed in '89 and released their album in early '90), including:

Badlands
Blue Murder
Mr. Big
Slaughter
Damn Yankees

Am I missing any?

All of those had solid first albums but nothing that great afterwards with the possible exception of Mr B ig who had some good albums and Damn Yankees who's 2nd was very good.
Bad English had a great 1st album with a poor 2nd. And I have a soft spot for BE as the singer (john Waite) is from my town - and we don't have any famous people from these parts!
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Post by: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 10:35:49 AM: Interestingly, I think both of you unintentionally hit on one of the problems with these types of groups in general: expectations. Hearing Sykes in Whitesnake and Jake in Ozzy set up certain expectations for what their future projects would sound like, which is completely understandable, but is also perhaps a bit unfair because it can taint your ability to enjoy the music for what it is. I distinctly remember that initially happening with both of those bands at the time, despite that I quickly grew to love them both.

When I picked up the Blue Murder album, I hated it on first listen and was about to trade it away to a friend of mine. I decided to give it one more listen just to make sure, and I picked up on a bunch of stuff the second time through that I had not cared to hear the first time simply because I was expecting a certain kind of sound.

Similar with Badlands. I was expecting Jake to tear it up like he did on Bark At The Moon. And when I found out there was a guitar instrumental on the album, I was expecting it to be full of blistering solos, something along the lines of Mr. Scary. When it was much more blues influenced, I was initially pretty disappointed. I had to take a step back and adjust expectations. When I did, I was blown away by how much awesomeness was there. It was just a different kind of awesomeness than I was expecting.

@Lowdz: I disagree about Badlands' follow up albums. I think Voodoo Highway, although a lot less slick and polished, was a BIG step up from the debut. And Dusk easily topped both of its predecessors. But the other bands on the list? Yeah, I agree.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 22, 2014, 10:36:28 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 22, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
Along those lines, I have to give a plug for 1989 as "year of the supergroups." If memory serves, we had debut albums from a bunch that year (or, in the case of Slaughter, I think they formed in '89 and released their album in early '90), including:

Badlands
Blue Murder
Mr. Big
Slaughter
Damn Yankees

Am I missing any?

All of those had solid first albums but nothing that great afterwards with the possible exception of Mr B ig who had some good albums and Damn Yankees who's 2nd was very good.
Bad English had a great 1st album with a poor 2nd. And I have a soft spot for BE as the singer (john Waite) is from my town - and we don't have any famous people from these parts!

I thought I was the only one who thought Backlash was a big step back - seems to be well liked in the AOR community.

I think there's some good stuff on Voodoo Highway , but also plenty of filler.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2014, 10:38:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 22, 2014, 10:36:28 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 22, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
Along those lines, I have to give a plug for 1989 as "year of the supergroups." If memory serves, we had debut albums from a bunch that year (or, in the case of Slaughter, I think they formed in '89 and released their album in early '90), including:

Badlands
Blue Murder
Mr. Big
Slaughter
Damn Yankees

Am I missing any?

All of those had solid first albums but nothing that great afterwards with the possible exception of Mr B ig who had some good albums and Damn Yankees who's 2nd was very good.
Bad English had a great 1st album with a poor 2nd. And I have a soft spot for BE as the singer (john Waite) is from my town - and we don't have any famous people from these parts!

I thought I was the only one who thought Backlash was a big step back - seems to be well liked in the AOR community.

They are an easy bunch to please. Turn down those rowdy guitars and up the wimpy keys and they're in :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on October 22, 2014, 11:02:10 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
Interestingly, I think both of you unintentionally hit on one of the problems with these types of groups in general: expectations. Hearing Sykes in Whitesnake and Jake in Ozzy set up certain expectations for what their future projects would sound like, which is completely understandable, but is also perhaps a bit unfair because it can taint your ability to enjoy the music for what it is. I distinctly remember that initially happening with both of those bands at the time, despite that I quickly grew to love them both.

When I picked up the Blue Murder album, I hated it on first listen and was about to trade it away to a friend of mine. I decided to give it one more listen just to make sure, and I picked up on a bunch of stuff the second time through that I had not cared to hear the first time simply because I was expecting a certain kind of sound.

Similar with Badlands. I was expecting Jake to tear it up like he did on Bark At The Moon. And when I found out there was a guitar instrumental on the album, I was expecting it to be full of blistering solos, something along the lines of Mr. Scary. When it was much more blues influenced, I was initially pretty disappointed. I had to take a step back and adjust expectations. When I did, I was blown away by how much awesomeness was there. It was just a different kind of awesomeness than I was expecting.

Admittedly, that was my problem. I was also a fan of Sykes in the latter days of Thin Lizzy, as Thunder And Lightning is easily the most criminally inderrated album of the early 80's. Anyway, in 1989, I was pretty heavy into thrash/speed, and was listening to a lot of Metallica, Megadeth, and Helloween. that sort of thing. I did no really have any inkling for mid tempo buesy mumbo jumbo, especially after the shock of not having Sykes and Lee playing the kind of music that i was hoping for.
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Post by: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 01:22:51 PM: On a slightly different note, I always like to give props to rockers from back in the day that still play/sound as good, if not better, than they did back in the '80s. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFFhlCQS1E
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Post by: TAC on October 22, 2014, 01:28:51 PM: Definitely better.
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Post by: TAC on October 22, 2014, 03:55:09 PM: Speaking of Badlands, looks like Craig Chaisson has joined Jake's Red Dragon Cartel.
https://bravewords.com/news/red-dragon-cartel-jake-e-lee-announces-more-north-american-tour-dates
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 22, 2014, 04:28:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2014, 11:02:10 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
Interestingly, I think both of you unintentionally hit on one of the problems with these types of groups in general: expectations. Hearing Sykes in Whitesnake and Jake in Ozzy set up certain expectations for what their future projects would sound like, which is completely understandable, but is also perhaps a bit unfair because it can taint your ability to enjoy the music for what it is. I distinctly remember that initially happening with both of those bands at the time, despite that I quickly grew to love them both.

When I picked up the Blue Murder album, I hated it on first listen and was about to trade it away to a friend of mine. I decided to give it one more listen just to make sure, and I picked up on a bunch of stuff the second time through that I had not cared to hear the first time simply because I was expecting a certain kind of sound.

Similar with Badlands. I was expecting Jake to tear it up like he did on Bark At The Moon. And when I found out there was a guitar instrumental on the album, I was expecting it to be full of blistering solos, something along the lines of Mr. Scary. When it was much more blues influenced, I was initially pretty disappointed. I had to take a step back and adjust expectations. When I did, I was blown away by how much awesomeness was there. It was just a different kind of awesomeness than I was expecting.

Admittedly, that was my problem. I was also a fan of Sykes in the latter days of Thin Lizzy, as Thunder And Lightning is easily the most criminally inderrated album of the early 80's. Anyway, in 1989, I was pretty heavy into thrash/speed, and was listening to a lot of Metallica, Megadeth, and Helloween. that sort of thing. I did no really have any inkling for mid tempo buesy mumbo jumbo, especially after the shock of not having Sykes and Lee playing the kind of music that i was hoping for.

Good call on that Thunder & Lightning album being criminally underrated. What a smoking awesome disc!
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Post by: chaossystem on October 22, 2014, 05:28:10 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2014, 05:33:32 AM
Hey folks- it seems to me that we have a thread for just about every prog metal band of note , there's threads for Power Metal , melodic rock/AOR , Thrash (not active) and a few classic metal bands like Accept, Judas Priest etc..... have their own threads but for the most part there's a big gap when it comes to a general thread/discussion on classic hard rock and metal and uh.........I hope to fill it ;D ::) When I say "classic" hard rock and metal I'm talking about bands both past and present that play rock and metal in a style that was popular from late 70's through early 90's before the epidemic of flannelette flu devastated the music world. :angel:

Hopefully a few of the fogeys and fogeys-in- waiting who followed my Top 50 will use this thread to help to keep the discussion going here. So Chad, Kade, Paul, Tim, JJ , King ,Gaz etc......get yo' asses over here and get posting ;D

So from now on there's no need to chat melodic metal/hard rock and so forth in the AOR thread (as a few of us do) and as far as I'm concerned this thread can encompass everything from hair metal/bluesy hard rock through to the more melodic end of thrash like Megadeth/Metallica . Some bands have their own threads of course and there's inevitably some crossover between melodic rock/hard rock etc..... but at least now there can be a place for just general :metal chat

Seeing as I've started the thread I'll try and take some ownership over keeping things humming and so at least once or twice a month I intend to go back into the archives and post some scans of everything from music magazine covers , rare albums/merchandise , concert photos (TAC posted some goodies in my Top 50) and memorabilia. Hopefully we can stir up some good memories. My memorabilia collection is rather heavily weighted towards Van Halen but I'll do my best - hopefully others can contribute in that regard from time to time and lessen the reliance on me - even if it's just a cool shirt or something.

I've stumbled up a step ladder earlier today and found a few mags to get me started (back with that in the next day or so once I've done some scans ) . In the meantime here's a nice item of kitchenware I like to serve nibblies in ;D

(https://s17.postimg.org/5cvfjx4vv/dlr_plate.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5cvfjx4vv/)

PS Once I opened up the first magazine I have in mind and saw the contents ..OMG :rollin - the photos and articles are just so good/funny and bring back so many memories. I wish I could scan you guys some of the articles and photos within but I don't want any copyright trouble for myself or anyone on DTF and so I'll refrain and stick to covers , funny ads etc.... :sad: I'll try to make a couple of notes here and there on any points of interest from the articles to help generate some chat.

How would I find your top 50?

What would it be under?

What kind of top 50 list is it?
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Post by: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 06:10:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2014, 03:55:09 PM
Speaking of Badlands, looks like Craig Chaisson has joined Jake's Red Dragon Cartel.
https://bravewords.com/news/red-dragon-cartel-jake-e-lee-announces-more-north-american-tour-dates

Oh, that's terrific! I love Chaisson's bass work. (but FYI, it's Greg, not Craig)
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Post by: TAC on October 22, 2014, 06:43:44 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on October 22, 2014, 06:10:58 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2014, 03:55:09 PM
Speaking of Badlands, looks like Craig Chaisson has joined Jake's Red Dragon Cartel.
https://bravewords.com/news/red-dragon-cartel-jake-e-lee-announces-more-north-american-tour-dates

Oh, that's terrific! I love Chaisson's bass work. (but FYI, it's Greg, not Craig)
Yeah, him too!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 22, 2014, 06:47:22 PM: Quote from: chaossystem on October 22, 2014, 05:28:10 PM

How would I find your top 50?

What would it be under?

What kind of top 50 list is it?

See here for links to Top 50 albums lists - mine is second from the bottom under "Recently Completed"

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39282.0
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Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2014, 04:57:00 AM: Don't get the negativity for Blue Murder mentioned on the last page. That debut album is freaking amazing IMO.
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2014, 05:22:53 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2014, 04:57:00 AM
Don't get the negativity for Blue Murder mentioned on the last page. That debut album is freaking amazing IMO.
Wolf, I know you've heard a lot of "freaking amaxing" music in your day. But..

I bought Blue Murder when it came out and was extremely let down. I find most of it mid tempo boring rock, and the vocals, while well sung, are so boring to me.If it was filled with tasty rockers like Black hearted Woman, then it would've been a lot better, but I find it tries to be too many things and doesn't succeed at any of them.
I actually added it to my iPod a couple years ago after one of these very same conversations. Just ran through it quickly, but it just doesn't do anything for me.
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Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2014, 05:43:59 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2014, 05:22:53 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2014, 04:57:00 AM
Don't get the negativity for Blue Murder mentioned on the last page. That debut album is freaking amazing IMO.
Wolf, I know you've heard a lot of "freaking amaxing" music in your day. But..

I bought Blue Murder when it came out and was extremely let down. I find most of it mid tempo boring rock, and the vocals, while well sung, are so boring to me.If it was filled with tasty rockers like Black hearted Woman, then it would've been a lot better, but I find it tries to be too many things and doesn't succeed at any of them.
I actually added it to my iPod a couple years ago after one of these very same conversations. Just ran through it quickly, but it just doesn't do anything for me.

Hmm...I sense a bit of sarcasm here. :lol

But seriously, that's fair enough mate. I discovered the album a few years ago randomly and loved it. I guess I had no expectations going into it. That could be a reason why I enjoyed it so much.
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2014, 08:46:29 AM: Don't have time to find the Kiss thread, so I thought I'd drop this here.
Paul Stanley on Joe Rogan's pod cast.
https://bravewords.com/news/kiss-frontman-paul-stanley-guests-on-oprah-where-are-they-now-this-sunday

A bit long, but a great listen.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 23, 2014, 02:17:49 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2014, 05:43:59 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2014, 05:22:53 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2014, 04:57:00 AM
Don't get the negativity for Blue Murder mentioned on the last page. That debut album is freaking amazing IMO.
Wolf, I know you've heard a lot of "freaking amaxing" music in your day. But..

I bought Blue Murder when it came out and was extremely let down. I find most of it mid tempo boring rock, and the vocals, while well sung, are so boring to me.If it was filled with tasty rockers like Black hearted Woman, then it would've been a lot better, but I find it tries to be too many things and doesn't succeed at any of them.
I actually added it to my iPod a couple years ago after one of these very same conversations. Just ran through it quickly, but it just doesn't do anything for me.

Hmm...I sense a bit of sarcasm here. :lol

But seriously, that's fair enough mate. I discovered the album a few years ago randomly and loved it. I guess I had no expectations going into it. That could be a reason why I enjoyed it so much.

I was very excited for it, expecting Whitesnake's 1987 mk II. It tried to be but didn't quite live up to that. There were some seriously dodgy lyrics - not in the Coverdale fashion either, just lacking in any humour (Sex Child, Black Hearted Woman etc). Most of it is fine though. Valley Of The Kings - I'm a sucker for that metal Egypt sound - Ptolemy, Jellyroll, all hit the spot.
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Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2014, 03:23:38 PM: Valley of the Kings could be my fav on the album, great song.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 23, 2014, 06:13:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2014, 03:23:38 PM
Valley of the Kings could be my fav on the album, great song.

The three tracks I come back to are Billy, Black Hearted Woman and Valley of the Kings. Outside of those I find it solid but patchy. And relative to 1987..............disappointing.

There was actually meant to be a Sykes Portnoy Sheehan band before they moved ahead with Kotzen (Winery Dogs) ............the guy just cannot get his shit together.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2014, 09:21:33 AM: Looks like "The King" is in decent form with his band on their current/recent tour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DMOAuCeZ6XA
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2014, 11:52:23 AM: Such a great band. Andy Laroque is metal's most underrated guitarists. Plus I hear tons of Schenker in Laroque's playing!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2014, 03:44:45 PM: King Diamond is one evil dude
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2014, 05:17:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 26, 2014, 09:21:33 AM
Looks like "The King" is in decent form with his band on their current/recent tour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DMOAuCeZ6XA

The band is solid as fuck. Especially the leads, they were super clean and precise, especially Andy who can be a bit hit or miss at times with his leads. The King also as much as I love him has never really been a great live singer, but surprisingly sounds stronger than ever here. Great stuff.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2014, 02:57:19 PM: I didn't even know about this!
https://www.amazon.com/Live-In-84-Back-Deluxe/dp/tracks/B00NO5BVCE/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1

I am all over THIS!! :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 28, 2014, 03:14:57 PM: Not a bad deal for $15.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2014, 03:28:41 PM: Didn't even look at the price. John Sykes, Cozy Powell!! :metal
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Post by: bosk1 on October 28, 2014, 03:35:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 23, 2014, 06:13:08 PM
And relative to 1987..............disappointing.

Well, maybe. But in all fairness, there are few albums from the '80s that actually can hold a candle to 1987, IMO. I would list it as one of THE defining albums of the '80s.

:justjen: Hmm...that gives me an interesting thread idea...
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Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2014, 03:43:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2014, 02:57:19 PM
I didn't even know about this!
https://www.amazon.com/Live-In-84-Back-Deluxe/dp/tracks/B00NO5BVCE/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1

I am all over THIS!! :metal

Yeah, read about that a while ago. Definitely a purchase right there.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2014, 03:53:15 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 23, 2014, 06:13:08 PM
There was actually meant to be a Sykes Portnoy Sheehan band before they moved ahead with Kotzen (Winery Dogs) ............the guy just cannot get his shit together.
They appeared together on That Metal Show. I had actually never heard or seen Sykes interviewed in all these years, but I could not believe how "too" laid back he was. He sounded completely stoned, and his eyes nearly popped out of his head when Eddie's Metal chick on the show came out. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on October 28, 2014, 05:13:47 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 28, 2014, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2014, 02:57:19 PM
I didn't even know about this!
https://www.amazon.com/Live-In-84-Back-Deluxe/dp/tracks/B00NO5BVCE/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1

I am all over THIS!! :metal

Yeah, read about that a while ago. Definitely a purchase right there.

I'm not sure whether this is a rerelease of a live video I had back in the day. That was really good and expect this to do the business.
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Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2014, 05:41:24 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 28, 2014, 05:13:47 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 28, 2014, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2014, 02:57:19 PM
I didn't even know about this!
https://www.amazon.com/Live-In-84-Back-Deluxe/dp/tracks/B00NO5BVCE/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1

I am all over THIS!! :metal

Yeah, read about that a while ago. Definitely a purchase right there.

I'm not sure whether this is a rerelease of a live video I had back in the day. That was really good and expect this to do the business.

yeah, I've seen a few clips on youtube of a show around the same time which seemed like a pro release that could be what is getting released here.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2014, 08:42:22 PM: 1984.................that'd be about the last time Coverdale sounded decent live ;D
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Post by: bosk1 on October 28, 2014, 08:50:28 PM: I saw them in '88 in Oakland and in '90 in Columbia, MD, and he sounded pretty good both times.
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Post by: Mosh on October 28, 2014, 08:52:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2014, 08:46:29 AM
Don't have time to find the Kiss thread, so I thought I'd drop this here.
Paul Stanley on Joe Rogan's pod cast.
https://bravewords.com/news/kiss-frontman-paul-stanley-guests-on-oprah-where-are-they-now-this-sunday

A bit long, but a great listen.
Great interview. Disagreed heavily with Paul's views and logic on piracy but it was still an entertaining listen and once they changed the subject to his book things got really interesting. I actually want to read it now.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2014, 08:54:34 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on October 28, 2014, 08:50:28 PM
I saw them in '88 in Oakland and in '90 in Columbia, MD, and he sounded pretty good both times.

I was exaggerating - hence the ;D It's been a good while though and , even though I've heard "him" sound good just in recent years , the reality is he has perfected the art of using huge reverb and background singers to great effect.

I saw him on the Slip Of The Tongue tour and have numerous soundboards from the same tour and he was horrid. And that's what - 20 years ago. So although I exaggerated for effect , it wasn't too far off .

Quote from: Mosh on October 28, 2014, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2014, 08:46:29 AM
Don't have time to find the Kiss thread, so I thought I'd drop this here.
Paul Stanley on Joe Rogan's pod cast.
https://bravewords.com/news/kiss-frontman-paul-stanley-guests-on-oprah-where-are-they-now-this-sunday

A bit long, but a great listen.
Great interview. Disagreed heavily with Paul's views and logic on piracy but it was still an entertaining listen and once they changed the subject to his book things got really interesting. I actually want to read it now.
Yeah - good interview but boy............the interviewer should've dropped the piracy thing a zillion times before he did. It just got tiring.
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Post by: bosk1 on October 28, 2014, 09:48:46 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 28, 2014, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: Mosh on October 28, 2014, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2014, 08:46:29 AM
Don't have time to find the Kiss thread, so I thought I'd drop this here.
Paul Stanley on Joe Rogan's pod cast.
https://bravewords.com/news/kiss-frontman-paul-stanley-guests-on-oprah-where-are-they-now-this-sunday

A bit long, but a great listen.
Great interview. Disagreed heavily with Paul's views and logic on piracy but it was still an entertaining listen and once they changed the subject to his book things got really interesting. I actually want to read it now.
Yeah - good interview but boy............the interviewer should've dropped the piracy thing a zillion times before he did. It just got tiring.

It's tricky though. He really wanted to dig and push Paul on the issue. Yeah, it was uncomfortable, but how many times have we all complained about interviews where the interviewer didn't ask the hard question or the follow-up question when the interviewee dodged or didn't give a very deep answer?
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Post by: Mosh on October 28, 2014, 10:24:43 PM: I liked that the interviewer didn't give in to Paul and continued to challenge him, the problem is that the guy wasn't making very convincing arguments. But he probably wasn't prepared to get into a big debate about piracy anyway. I appreciate the effort at least.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2014, 05:10:45 AM: Quote from: Mosh on October 28, 2014, 10:24:43 PM
I liked that the interviewer didn't give in to Paul and continued to challenge him, the problem is that the guy wasn't making very convincing arguments. But he probably wasn't prepared to get into a big debate about piracy anyway. I appreciate the effort at least.
I thought he made great examples for Paul to comment on, and not to derail the thread, but how exactly is Paul wrong on this issue?
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Post by: Mosh on October 29, 2014, 07:16:58 AM: I don't think Paul is wrong, necessarily (though I disagree with his stance). I just didn't like his logic on the issue. Like when he pulled out the old "you wouldn't pirate a car" thing. It seemed like a narrow viewpoint.
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Post by: bosk1 on October 29, 2014, 08:54:14 AM: I agree with Paul and do not think he is wrong, but I kind of appreciate that Rogan kept pushing--not to show that Paul was wrong, but to try to get Paul to see that it is a complicated, fuzzy issue in a lot of contexts, and it is difficult to draw the line sometimes. The problem is just that Rogan is such in inept moron that it (not surprisingly) came across as awkward.
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Post by: Mosh on October 29, 2014, 11:36:34 AM: I think that's the main problem, they were both simplifying a complicated issue.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2014, 01:11:53 PM: I don't know. I thought the discussion on Piracy was excellent. I thought Rogan went back to the therapy thing way too much.
But what was extremely interesting was how Paul described how he felt about creating new characters, and also that he wanted to take the makeup off for Creatures.
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Post by: Mosh on October 29, 2014, 05:04:20 PM: That's funny, I was relieved when the piracy discussion ended and thought the therapy thing was interesting. That was a side of Paul I'd never seen before.

Yea that stuff was interesting too. From what I understand, Gene was very against taking the makeup off, and I guess Paul backed down the first time but got his way eventually. Incidentally, this is also where Gene's interest in the band seemed to wane.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2014, 05:21:42 PM: Quote from: Mosh on October 29, 2014, 05:04:20 PM
Yea that stuff was interesting too. From what I understand, Gene was very against taking the makeup off, and I guess Paul backed down the first time but got his way eventually. Incidentally, this is also where Gene's interest in the band seemed to wane.
Very true. Paul carried that band on his back through the 80's.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 29, 2014, 05:33:12 PM: I've been reading Paul's bio and Gene was in and out earlier than you know with regards to recording. He is very frank about all, mostly himself.
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Post by: Mosh on October 29, 2014, 09:18:36 PM: How early? I haven't gotten the bio yet. Gene seemed to openly admit that he wasn't invested much in the band during the 80s, I figured this happened after the failure that was The Elder.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 29, 2014, 09:25:12 PM: Gene was always self serving. As early as Destroyer ge misses recording sessions.
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Post by: Mosh on October 29, 2014, 09:43:09 PM: Interesting. His contributions seemed about equal with Paul's up until Lick It Up, and then again around the time of Revenge. Especially Carnival of Souls. I don't disagree with the self serving bit, but I just figured he was more involved in Kiss during those times. So that's a surprise.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 29, 2014, 09:47:34 PM: Paul was always waving the KISS flag while Gene was working on his own enterprise.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 29, 2014, 09:48:13 PM: Quote from: Mosh on October 29, 2014, 09:43:09 PM
Interesting. His contributions seemed about equal with Paul's up until Lick It Up, and then again around the time of Revenge. Especially Carnival of Souls. I don't disagree with the self serving bit, but I just figured he was more involved in Kiss during those times. So that's a surprise.

He was still mostly present at that point, but from Destroyer onwards they started functioning less as a unified band, with less collaboration on each other's songs, and more outside musicians, especially for Peter and Ace.
And even though Gene was always contributing songs, they were never as polished as Paul's, so there were less of them on the albums. Just check out the Love Gun demo, and aside from the guitar solo, it's identical to the studio version. Paul even played bass on that one.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 29, 2014, 09:49:41 PM: What Blob said.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2014, 07:34:12 AM: For those of you who like a bit of straight ahead rock/metal the new Riot (V) - Unleash The Fire is pretty damn good.....I rate it 83% No original members now but they've done a good job of capturing the Riot sound and it's pretty solid from start to finish.

Another one I finally got around to after a few years is the Forbidden Demos by XYZ...I rate it 90% (making allowances for production and the time). If you like XYZ /Marc Diglio (who was just a kid on these demos) it's a must. A lot of their demos and live stuff from 86-90 are better than most of the melodic rock being done now. Surprisingly good after going in with no real expectations. It would never have been released but for original guitarist Bobby Pieper trying to make some money off some crappy old demos , so Terry Ilous responded with these and I'm glad he did.

A few of my faves off the Riot :

Bring The Hammer Down : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uraePRXUdw0

Take Me Back (bit of a Scorps vibe) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDM-6haRWew

Until We Meet Again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGvGkHhCNrU

And one from the XYZ demos :

High Life (1988 demo): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cfEG4jjrjY

Google's ad function is obviously buggy when it comes to tracking my browsing as I've been bombarded for days with ads about Mariah Carey gigs. :-\
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Post by: TAC on November 03, 2014, 01:19:07 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2014, 07:34:12 AM
For those of you who like a bit of straight ahead rock/metal the new Riot (V) - Unleash The Fire is pretty damn good.....I rate it 83% No original members now but they've done a good job of capturing the Riot sound and it's pretty solid from start to finish.

This is squarely on The List, though I probably will not see until my Christmas haul. Love Todd Michael Hall. I've sampled a few tracks and it's very good.

With apologies to Thundersteel, I have not followed Riot after Born In America, and frankly, I don't consider this a Riot release at all. But I am definitely looking forward to it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2014, 06:31:00 PM: The readers of Rhythm magazine were given a list of 100 of the best drum intros to vote on and these were the Top 10

10) Iron Maiden: Where Eagles Dare

9) Foo Fighters: My Hero

8) Nirvana: Smells Like Teen Spirit

7) Judas Priest: Painkiller

6) Led Zeppelin: When The Levee Breaks

5) Queens Of The Stone Age: A Song For The Dead

4) Led Zeppelin: Rock And Roll

3) Guns N’ Roses: You Could Be Mine

2) Rush: The Spirit Of Radio

1) Van Halen: Hot For Teacher

Good to see the very under rated AVH get some "winning".
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 03, 2014, 06:54:05 PM: How the hell did Smells Like Teen Spirit get on this list? ???

Some good picks on there though. HFT has a an awesome intro, so I'm happy to see that in first place. I love You Could Be Mine, but Rock n Roll should have definitely been higher up on this list.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2014, 06:54:54 PM: You need some token grunge in a list to hold your cred these days ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 03, 2014, 06:59:21 PM: Painkiller!!!!!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 03, 2014, 07:41:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2014, 06:54:54 PM
You need some token grunge in a list to hold your cred these days ;D

I think that inclusion hurts their cred more than anything. :lol
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Post by: Mosh on November 03, 2014, 08:14:04 PM: The way the drums kick in on that song is awesome. It's very short and simple but it's huge and at this point, iconic.
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Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2014, 04:07:31 AM: Surprising yet awesome to see Where Eagles Dare, always loved that one.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2014, 07:45:59 PM: Hmm - just found this amongst a pile of junk. Never listened to it :facepalm:

(https://s30.postimg.org/9c20sa2r5/657723_img.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 04, 2014, 07:53:45 PM: Is that an early version of Invasion?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2014, 07:57:27 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 04, 2014, 07:53:45 PM
Is that an early version of Invasion?

Nah - it was actually towards the end of VVI. VVI was formed around 84 and debuted around 86 - this was copyright 88 which was around the time of All Systems Go. Supposedly he wrote these songs , demoed them up with JSS and then shopped them around to publishing companies in the hope they would be taken on by other artists.

Vinnie works in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2014, 05:32:35 AM: Is it any good?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2014, 05:34:24 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2014, 05:32:35 AM
Is it any good?

No it wasn't ;D It was actually quite poppy - what he was trying to do now makes a bit more sense (break into the charts with some lighter material). Why I found it amongst a pile of crap now also makes more sense :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 05, 2014, 12:54:43 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 05, 2014, 05:34:24 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2014, 05:32:35 AM
Is it any good?

No it wasn't ;D It was actually quite poppy - what he was trying to do now makes a bit more sense (break into the charts with some lighter material). Why I found it amongst a pile of crap now also makes more sense :D

I've heard these and they aren't great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2014, 04:31:50 PM: I just want to say that I bought Mike Lepond's Silent Assassins album and it kicks fuc#ing ass! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 08, 2014, 07:21:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 07, 2014, 04:31:50 PM
I just want to say that I bought Mike Lepond's Silent Assassins album and it kicks fuc#ing ass! :metal

Will check it out........
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2014, 04:27:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 08, 2014, 07:21:15 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 07, 2014, 04:31:50 PM
I just want to say that I bought Mike Lepond's Silent Assassins album and it kicks fuc#ing ass! :metal

Will check it out........

Yeah, that was one I had to check out too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2014, 01:01:48 PM: Heard the first track and thought it was shit. Will give the rest of it a go.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2014, 01:05:56 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 10, 2014, 01:01:48 PM
Heard the first track and thought it was shit. Will give the rest of it a go.

I like that one.

I think the whole album is pretty tasty.

Was it you that was talking about Riot V? I listened to most of the tracks, and I think I prefer the Lepond album. I still may get the Riot V but was underwhelmed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2014, 01:18:22 PM: It was me talking about the Riot - I rated it around 80% so felt it was a very solid effort without being fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2014, 01:20:39 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 10, 2014, 01:01:48 PM
Heard the first track and thought it was shit. Will give the rest of it a go.

Listened to about 1/2 of it myself. Musically thought it was pretty decent, but vocally I couldn't get into it. Couple of good moments, but overall, meh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2014, 01:25:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 10, 2014, 01:18:22 PM
It was me talking about the Riot - I rated it around 80% so felt it was a very solid effort without being fantastic.

I love the classic East Coast metal. Lepond's album is very 1982ish, but that hits a spot with me. It actually reminds me of classic Riot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2014, 03:01:55 PM: Listening again I was a bit harsh calling it shit. It's ok. I prefer the Riot actually - the singer is better. Not going to set the world on fire, either of them, but yeah, the Riot is better.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2014, 03:27:01 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 10, 2014, 03:01:55 PM
Listening again I was a bit harsh calling it shit. It's ok. I prefer the Riot actually - the singer is better. Not going to set the world on fire, either of them, but yeah, the Riot is better.
Love Todd Michael Hall. Likely buying the Riot either tonight or tommorrow. (or Tommorrow And Tonight!)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2014, 06:09:22 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 10, 2014, 03:01:55 PM
the Riot is better.
After two listens, yes I would agree. In fact the Riot V is downright fantastic! TMH's vocals are much better here than the Reverence album, and those were pretty damn stong.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 11, 2014, 06:12:00 AM: Underwhelmed to downright fantastic in one easy step. That's called a "grower" ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2014, 06:17:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 11, 2014, 06:12:00 AM
Underwhelmed to downright fantastic in one easy step. That's called a "grower" ;D

Yeah but it's true. The Youtube clips didn't do it justice. I actually got goosebumps listening. I've been looking forward to this album for a while now. Never followed post Born In America Riot, but this has a classic feel even though the band is totally different.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 11, 2014, 11:29:43 AM: In fact, I'd say the Riot V is as good as Blind Rage.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 06:05:09 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 11, 2014, 11:29:43 AM
In fact, I'd say the Riot V is as good as Blind Rage.

I actually rated Riot a couple of points higher and didn't realise. I thought I'd rated the Accept higher than I did. Anyway - both really good albums.

Time for another little memory lane trip , an item of memorabilia to check out and I'll run an idea by you guys for a new addition to this thread.

First.........a magazine cover to check out - April 88. (trivia : Hit Parader was started in 1942 :omg: )

(https://s28.postimg.org/76l17w65p/dokken.jpg)

Wonder how long that lasted ;D

And an interesting item from the bl5150 vaults . These aren't too hard to find (perhaps less so when sealed like mine is) but it's one of my favourite bits of VH stuff. It's a red vinyl promo sent out to radio stations for Van Halen's debut. It features the tracks "Runnin' With The Devil," "Eruption," "Ice Cream Man," "You Really Got Me" And "Jamie's Cryin." and has an earlier band logo and Looney Tunes /Merrie Melodies markings from Warner.

This photo (obviously) isn't of my sealed copy. Not sure what's going on with the big white spot in the middle on the bottom left , but anyway........best photo I could find to display what it looks like.

(https://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/LooneyTunes.jpg)

Next up.......... my brilliant idea ::)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 08:47:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 06:05:09 AM

Next up.......... my brilliant idea ::)

OK................I wanted to run this by you guys before I go ahead and do anything. The last thing I want to do is rush off and do this and take the site to the point of overkill in terms of lists etc.......and just bore everyone to death.

I had the idea while checking out one of the Discography threads the other day. I think they're fantastic and appreciate all the hard work involved etc..... but to be successful/worth the trouble they really need to cover bands that have a large following on DTF. Bands like Rush, Led Zep and Iron Maiden and the like are ideal candidates.

When I thought about whether I might like to do one in the future , it was pretty clear to me that the vast majority of bands I seriously like would really only be of interest to the half dozen or so diehards that follow this thread. And so it really wouldn't generate much value for the time involved. And so I got to thinking about how we could do something in this thread that is far less time consuming for the author (and the reader!) while still generating some good discussion.

I thought that each of us contributing some Top 10's lists to this thread could achieve that goal. I'm prepared to do all of the organising and cover more than my fair share of the content . I am hoping that some others will put up their hands to cover a few bands etc.......

The main focus for now is to come up with lists of the Top 10 Essential Tracks from various bands with the idea that the list should include songs that you consider "required listening" - effectively your own 10 track Best Of........ It's then opened up for discussion , others can respond with their own version if they like....... If we ever exhaust that side of things then you could then move onto other Top 10 ideas.

The only requirement for bands mentioned in these lists is that they are generally considered hard rock or classic metal. Prog metal is out for the most part as it's been done to death elsewhere, although I think bands like Queensryche and Crimson Glory have enough "classic metal" in them to be included. Hair metal is all fine. It's pretty clear that certain bands might need to be broken down into eras - for example Black Sabbath , Judas Priest (perhaps), KISS (70's/80's),

I would aim for us to do 2 lists per month (1st and 15th of the month as a rough guide) and set up a roster in the initial post with links to the relevant thread pages.

Potential Contributions:

For starters I'm happy to handle Van Halen, Ozzy, Savatage, KISS (70's/80's), WASP, Talisman, Malmsteen etc.......

No pressure on anyone but I thought some of the following might work well:

TAC: Accept, Dio
wolfking: Judas Priest (70's), Black Sabbath (Dio years)
lowdz: UFO , Dokken
jingle.boy: Triumph , Tesla
JJ : Primal Fear?/ Judas Priest (80's-)
and so on................

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Let me know what you guys think - if it's all too much and I'm wasting my time , then let me know and I'll drop it and no offence taken. I thought it'd be a cool way to generate the sort of discussion we see in the Discog threads for the bands we like with a whole lot less work involved.

So do we push ahead with it or do I shut the hell up? ;D

PS While I'm getting the main idea organised I wouldn't mind running through the years (Top 10 albums of 19xx...........) from 1980 to 1995 to get us started. I could do a year each few days over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 09:14:07 AM: That's a great idea Brent! Similar to the Dio conversation at the beginning of this thread. We can pick a band and discuss for a week or so.
I'll battle Lowdz for UFO though! :)

Organize away bro!

This is what I posted in one of the Album Of The Year threads.
The one year that I could not live without is 1981.

Quote from: TAC on July 17, 2011, 06:18:47 AM
UFO-The Wild The Willing And The Innocent
MIchael Schenker Group-MSG
Rush- Moving Pictures
Def Leppard-High n Dry
Thin Lizzy-Renegade

A great year, probably my favorite year for music all time. These 5 are all TAC Top 25's!

HM's
Riot- Fire Down Under
Ozzy Osbourne-Diary Of A Madman
Joe Perry Project- I've Got The Rock And Rolls Again
Van Halen- Fair Warning
Blackfoot-Marauder
Iron Maiden- Killers
Rainbow-Difficult To Cure
Black Sabbath-Mob Rules
Y&T-Earthshaker
Saxon-Denim And Leather
Ted Nugent-Intensities In Ten Cities
Triumph -Allied Forces

1981 FTW :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 09:23:30 AM: Okey dokey - thanks. The TAC seal of approval is all I need ;D

While I draft a more extensive list of bands we need to cover (for my future reference) I'll get onto 1980 in the next day or two. I believe the MSG album you quoted was actually 1980 , although I'm no Schenker expert.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 09:31:14 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 09:23:30 AM
Okey dokey - thanks. The TAC seal of approval is all I need ;D

While I draft a more extensive list of bands we need to cover (for my future reference) I'll get onto 1980 in the next day or two. I believe the MSG album you quoted was actually 1980 , although I'm no Schenker expert.
The first MSG album-"The Michael Schenker Group" was released in 1980. His second album "MSG" was indeed released in 1981. One of the most influential albums to my musical tastes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 09:32:46 AM: That's why I'm no Schenker expert - bands called MSG, albums called MSG , Michael Schenker, McCauley Schenker ........ :facepalm: ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2014, 10:51:07 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 08:47:10 AM
I thought it'd be a cool way to generate the sort of discussion we see in the Discog threads for the bands we like with a whole lot less work involved.

This is can get into. As for the entire post, tl;du (didn't understand). Triumph is definitely mine for sure. Not sure who else I'd consider myself close to an 'expert' on. Harem? Yeah (but not sure they fit the criteria you laid out). Tesla? Sorta (I have almost the entire discog). Others that would fall into that category too would be White Lion, Whitesnake, Europe and Poison.

My only concern in participating is I got a lot on the go right now... wrapping up the Zep discussion, restarting the vocal showdowns, and hosting a roulette soon (which all you f'rs better be participating in), plus, ya know... real life shit. :lol

We oughta recruit Bosk for Y&T.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 10:57:05 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 12, 2014, 10:51:07 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 08:47:10 AM
I thought it'd be a cool way to generate the sort of discussion we see in the Discog threads for the bands we like with a whole lot less work involved.

This is can get into. As for the entire post, tl;du (didn't understand). Triumph is definitely mine for sure. Not sure who else I'd consider myself close to an 'expert' on. Harem? Yeah (but not sure they fit the criteria you laid out). Tesla? Sorta (I have almost the entire discog). Others that would fall into that category too would be White Lion, Whitesnake, Europe and Poison.

My only concern in participating is I got a lot on the go right now... wrapping up the Zep discussion, restarting the vocal showdowns, and hosting a roulette soon (which all you f'rs better be participating in), plus, ya know... real life shit. :lol

We oughta recruit Bosk for Y&T.

No worries .................I'll keep things moving for a while and I knew you'd be busy for a while. I just wanted to establish if the concept was useful. I see no issue with Harem Scarem here as post their first album I think much of their stuff is hard rock.

Sorry if my post was confusing - didn't think it was that bad . Although it is 5am here and I haven't slept so I have some excuse for talking shit.

You don't necessarily have to own every single album to participate here - most of the bands have albums that we made an informed decision NOT to own...........if I did Tesla it would comprise songs from only 3 or 4 albums. And as for Queensryche :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2014, 11:12:35 AM: It probably is pretty clear, I just skimmed through it. Start it up, I'll follow along, and participate as best I can.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on November 12, 2014, 11:28:33 AM: I'm not sure I completely understand the idea, but my Y&T alarm went off, so I felt compelled to come visit the thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 11:35:21 AM: In simple terms we're just talking about me kickstarting the thread with Top 10 albums of 19xx (years) , after which we will move onto bands , which is the original idea.................Top 10 Essential Tracks from XX band.

I probably could've worded the original post better - and likely would've if I wasn't half asleep - but it's not that bad :P

I'll try and tidy it up a bit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 12:20:24 PM: Jingle.glam, Poison will not be discussed in this thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 12, 2014, 01:00:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 12, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
Jingle.glam, Poison will not be discussed in this thread.

TAC can have UFO. I'm not a fan of enough of the discog. I'm sure I could sort something when the time comes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:03:34 PM: I will be reporting that to the Admins and will have your username changed to Quietz.

Edit: Yeah, you better modify that post! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 12, 2014, 01:05:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:03:34 PM
I will be reporting that to the Admins and will have your username changed to Quietz.

Edit: Yeah, you better modify that post! ;D

:biggrin:

I edited the post - people will not know what you're talking about :biggrin:

It was Winger related :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:10:21 PM: FUCK YOU EVERYONE!! :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 12, 2014, 01:12:05 PM: Bottom line, if there is a conversation about classic/hard rock and metal, I'm there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on November 12, 2014, 01:29:17 PM: Quote from: #1 Winger Fan on November 12, 2014, 01:10:21 PM
FUCK YOU EVERYONE!! :rollin

Wow...so, um...very unfortunate and descriptive choice of username there, pal.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:34:03 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 12, 2014, 01:29:17 PM
Quote from: #1 Winger Fan on November 12, 2014, 01:10:21 PM
FUCK YOU EVERYONE!! :rollin

Wow...so, um...very unfortunate and descriptive choice of username there, pal.

If anyone wants to know why you are the Merciless Administrator, I have stories to tell.

I may have to take this to the US Head of Interwebz.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2014, 01:37:12 PM: TAC, er... Winger fan also gets Saxon.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:38:10 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 12, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
TAC, er... Winger fan also gets Saxon.

I don't get shit until I get my name back! :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:38:48 PM: Thank you!

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 12, 2014, 01:39:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:38:10 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on November 12, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
TAC, er... Winger fan also gets Saxon.

I don't get shit until I get my name back! :yarr

*best Spartacus voice* I'm #1 Winger fan!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2014, 01:39:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:34:03 PM
If anyone wants to know why you are the Merciless Administrator, I have stories to tell.

Wow... apparently that was a credible threat!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:43:23 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 12, 2014, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:34:03 PM
If anyone wants to know why you are the Merciless Administrator, I have stories to tell.

Wow... apparently that was a credible threat!

:lol

You damn right!

Never fuck with this guy!

(https://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910035309/beavisandbutthead/images/7/7a/Stewart.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 12, 2014, 01:47:19 PM: He was the heart of that show!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on November 12, 2014, 01:49:19 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 12, 2014, 01:47:19 PM
He was only seventeen!

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_4011_1415825186.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 12, 2014, 02:34:11 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 12, 2014, 01:49:19 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 12, 2014, 01:47:19 PM
He was only seventeen!

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_4011_1415825186.jpg)

We were all 17 once. It was awesome. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2014, 06:55:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 08:47:10 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 06:05:09 AM

For starters I'm happy to handle Van Halen, Ozzy, Savatage, KISS (70's/80's), WASP, Talisman, Malmsteen etc.......

No pressure on anyone but I thought some of the following might work well:

TAC: Accept, Dio
wolfking: Judas Priest (70's), Black Sabbath (Dio years)
lowdz: UFO , Dokken
jingle.boy: Triumph , Tesla
JJ : Primal Fear?/ Judas Priest (80's-)
and so on................

This is a good idea. Trying to think, there's actually not many bands I could think of that I would be confident covering for the subject title compared to others.

I could definitely cover a lot of Brent's ones like Savatage, Wasp, Ozzy etc. Sabbath I could do their whole career, but so could Jason probably. Judas Priest I could do their whole career too. Iron Maiden would be one I could do off the top of my head though. I'd have to look through my collection and see who else I could do.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 06:58:02 PM: Cool Kade - we'll work out who does what and spread it around based on who's up for it at the time. I'll float a few names and first in gets it .................if nobody bites then I suppose I get it ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2014, 07:41:48 PM: You can be the reserve poster for every single band ever! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2014, 12:00:26 AM: Cool idea for sure. Will definitely follow. Maybe (but that is a big maybe) I will someday even do my own list/band.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 01:30:11 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 12, 2014, 07:41:48 PM
You can be the reserve poster for every single band ever! :lol

:hat

Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2014, 12:00:26 AM
Cool idea for sure. Will definitely follow. Maybe (but that is a big maybe) I will someday even do my own list/band.

Cool - I've noticed your quality taste in music ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2014, 04:35:54 AM: Man, I just realised how the overall hard rock and classic metal scene is not my strongest area. Everything unique to me compared to you guys is either melodic rock, power metal, or some form of death metal.

The only other band I could think of that I could do would be Mercyful Fate or King, if they even qualify for this thread. :lol Plenty of others I could do, but some of you blokes would know 'em better.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2014, 04:44:23 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/level-10-featuring-russell-allen-mat-sinner-debut-album-chapter-one-due-in-january/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wp_cZvkrJT4

Sounds solid enough but nothing special. Will definitely jump on it though. The first song reminds me heavily of something from 1987.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2014, 05:10:39 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 01:30:11 AM

Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2014, 12:00:26 AM
Cool idea for sure. Will definitely follow. Maybe (but that is a big maybe) I will someday even do my own list/band.

Cool - I've noticed your quality taste in music ;)

Just wait till I criticize your lists. I seem to like the same bands as others but more often than not I have different favorite albums and songs than others. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 05:25:49 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2014, 05:10:39 AM

I seem to like the same bands as others but more often than not I have different favorite albums and songs than others. ;D

I know someone like that :D

Quote
Just wait till I criticize your lists.

Try not to be too "critical" - I'm hoping it'll be more of a good hearted discussion rather than taking pot shots/ analytical dissections of others' lists
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 05:33:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 13, 2014, 04:35:54 AM
Man, I just realised how the overall hard rock and classic metal scene is not my strongest area. Everything unique to me compared to you guys is either melodic rock, power metal, or some form of death metal.

The only other band I could think of that I could do would be Mercyful Fate or King, if they even qualify for this thread. :lol Plenty of others I could do, but some of you blokes would know 'em better.

No need to be a fully fledged expert or "most knowledgable on DTF" . I'll put you down for Maiden, King and Mercyful Fate . That's heaps for now. We're only looking to do a couple a month and I need to get through these years , which will take a little while. Speaking of which..........
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 05:33:56 AM: Here goes..............

I should preface this by providing some context. I was 5yo at the start of 1980 and so most of these bands I have worked my way back to. There was really only one band in the world for me in 1980 and that was KISS.

The reason I started with 1980 is that I really don't tend to like much from the 70's - I would struggle to list 10 albums I like from most years in the 1970's. I'm sorta stuck in the middle a bit - I was born in the 70's , but unlike a lot of you slightly older folks ;) I didn't really grow up with any 70's bands aside from KISS. So I have no attachment to these bands that comes with the "growing up" factor and really don't like most of the music as a fresh listener.

So 1980 is the first year that I really enjoy enough albums to make a list. I have tried to place weighting on the influence of an album in general , as well as it's appeal to me. Hence the appearance of AC/DC who don't get much rotation time from me , but I can't deny the quality of Back In Black. If I don't like a band at all though ,it ain't going to make it. As an example Ace of Spades by Motorhead is a 1980 classic but Motorhead do nothing for me , so it didn't come under consideration. As we move along each year is going to get much more difficult as the potential candidates grow exponentially.

There were really only 15 albums or so that I considered here - thankfully most of them kick ass and positions 4-10 in particular are rated very closely and were hard to separate. In the end it came down mostly to a ratio of classics: fillers and so some albums with some absolute classics but a few fillers suffered a bit. You can take it as gospel that any album that makes a Top 10 I rate very highly.

TOP 10 ALBUMS OF 1980

1. Ozzy Osbourne : Blizzard of Ozz
2. AC/DC : Back In Black
3. Van Halen : Women and Children First
4. Michael Schenker Group: Michael Schenker Group
5. KISS : Unmasked
6. Saxon : Strong Arm Of The Law
7. Judas Priest: British Steel
8. Black Sabbath : Heaven and Hell
9. Whitesnake: Ready An' Willing
10:Triumph: Progressions of Power

An honourable mention to Diamond Head : Lightning To The Nations (aka The White Album) which was very influential on many bands that followed (incl. the original Am I Evil) and also Thin Lizzy: Chinatown which has a few killers but too many fillers.

I won't elaborate in detail on each album in these lists as I want to keep the posts reasonably concise and leave the detail for any discussion . Aside from perhaps KISS: Unmasked (which many consider pissweak) I'd be surprised if anyone disagrees strongly with any of these making the top 10. Let's see..........over to you.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2014, 05:50:29 AM: Unmasked..... Women and Children First.... Slow year, huh? :lol Love both bands, but both albums are among their very weakest.
Agree with Ozzy and AC/DC at least. Both killer. :tup The rest of the choices are good too, I'm just not as familiar with some of them.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 06:21:57 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2014, 05:50:29 AM
Unmasked..... Women and Children First.... Slow year, huh? :lol Love both bands, but both albums are among their very weakest.
Agree with Ozzy and AC/DC at least. Both killer. :tup The rest of the choices are good too, I'm just not as familiar with some of them.

I don't rate Unmasked as near KISS's best but on the other hand I don't think it's as bad as a lot make out.

As far as Women and Children First.......well you know how much I love VH. If it didn't make No 1 there's a damn good reason ;D I think on that album they went a bit too far to the humour side and the music suffered. But hey - it's still VH and still a good album.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2014, 06:27:14 AM: VH are my #2 favourite band, and I love the vast majority of what they've done, but I don't listen to a thing from WACF. It's the filler sandwiched inbetween two great albums. The only thing even listenable is Cradle, and even that is very average. The rest is just too silly and phoned in. Loss of Control has to be one of the most offensively bad songs of that VH period.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 06:39:08 AM: Hard to argue with that list. Omissions (though not exactly glaring)

Zenyatta Mondatta
The River
The Game
Duke

Though, those don't really fit the 'hard rock/classic metal' criteria.

Pat Benatar/Crimes of Passion might.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 06:48:20 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 06:39:08 AM
Hard to argue with that list. Omissions (though not exactly glaring)

Zenyatta Mondatta
The River
The Game
Duke

Though, those don't really fit the 'hard rock/classic metal' criteria.

Pat Benatar/Crimes of Passion might.

Right - I don't consider any of them hard rock and most barely even rock ;D I've never really been into any of those bands in a huge way either. I did consider Queen's album but decided it wasn't hard rock. Even Whitesnake only just scraped in .

I'm taking care to remove my "AOR hat" for this exercise and it's not all that hard as I find my tastes are getting heavier by the day. But still............when I start to think 1981 it'll be hard to go past Journey: Escape and Foreigner: 4 but I'm going to :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 13, 2014, 06:59:38 AM: Iron Maiden, Rush, and Def Leppard would have been mentioned on my list.

Solid list overall, that Kiss album is a controversial one for sure. I enjoy it but I can see how some people despise it; especially when it came out.

Heaven & Hell would top my list. British Steel and Saxon wouldn't be too far behind.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 07:05:00 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2014, 06:59:38 AM
Iron Maiden, Rush, and Def Leppard would have been mentioned on my list.

Def Leppard were close .........I'm not huge into Iron Maiden but they might make an appearance later given that I'm allowing some weighting for influence on others.........and Rush.....I'll keep my opinions to myself as I'm totally out voted ;D

Do you consider Rush hard rock or classic metal?? Genres drive me bonkers but if I had to I'd class them as prog rock. I don't find them heavy at all, especially in the vocal department.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2014, 07:12:51 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 06:39:08 AM
Hard to argue with that list. Omissions (though not exactly glaring)

Zenyatta Mondatta
The River
The Game
Duke

Though, those don't really fit the 'hard rock/classic metal' criteria.
No they don't. Get that shit out of here! :)

Quote from: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 06:39:08 AM
Pat Benatar/Crimes of Passion might.
That is actually a good call. Creat album.

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2014, 06:59:38 AM
Iron Maiden, Rush, and Def Leppard would have been mentioned on my list.

Solid list overall, that Kiss album is a controversial one for sure. I enjoy it but I can see how some people despise it; especially when it came out.

Heaven & Hell would top my list.
Agree with this all.

Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 05:33:56 AM
Here goes..............
TOP 10 ALBUMS OF 1980
1. Ozzy Osbourne : Blizzard of Ozz
2. AC/DC : Back In Black
4. Michael Schenker Group: Michael Schenker Group
6. Saxon : Strong Arm Of The Law
7. Judas Priest: British Steel
8. Black Sabbath : Heaven and Hell

I don't even have Progressions of Power! :lol
WACF isn't bad. I love In A Simple Ryhme.

My list would definitely include:
Iron Maiden-s/t
Def Leppard-On Through The Night
UFO-No Place To Run
Thin Lizzy-Chinatown
Rush-Permanent Waves

And B, you cannot put Kiss on this list and leave out Ace Of Spades. You just can't.

Still 1980 belongs to Blizzard Of Ozz, Back In Black, and Heaven And Hell.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 07:17:27 AM: At the time, Rush (and Permanent Waves being the changing point) started more in a hard rock direction. That album is arguably as heavy as some of the others on the list (PoP, MSG).
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2014, 07:21:15 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 07:17:27 AM
At the time, Rush (and Permanent Waves being the changing point) started more in a hard rock direction. That album is arguably as heavy as some of the others on the list (PoP, MSG).
I agree. Permanent Waves belongs! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 07:30:27 AM: Shit - 1981's going to be much tougher......... :-\
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2014, 07:31:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 07:30:27 AM
Shit - 1981's going to be much tougher......... :-\

Yes, as I posted above, it was a GREAT year.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 13, 2014, 07:51:34 AM: I agree with Brent in that genres and classifications can drive you bonkers. And the rock genre is the worst. Is this band considered hard rock, metal, power rock, power metal, prog rock?? It can drive you nuts
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Post by: bosk1 on November 13, 2014, 07:56:42 AM: No beef with the list. I would have definitely included Dep Lep and Sabbath if it were me. Queen and Journey...I would probably cheat and squeeze them in as well, even though they probably do not qualify. That Queen album was the first album I ever bought, and it holds a special place in my heart.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2014, 07:58:28 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 13, 2014, 07:56:42 AM
No beef with the list. I would have definitely included Dep Lep and Sabbath if it were me. Queen and Journey...I would probably cheat and squeeze them in as well, even though they probably do not qualify. That Queen album was the first album I ever bought, and it holds a special place in my heart.
That would be The Game right? that's a good album.
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Post by: bosk1 on November 13, 2014, 08:02:02 AM: Yeah.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 08:04:10 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2014, 07:31:30 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 07:30:27 AM
Shit - 1981's going to be much tougher......... :-\

Yes, as I posted above, it was a GREAT year.

Allied Forces better make the cut.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 08:05:47 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 13, 2014, 07:56:42 AM
I would have definitely included Dep Lep and Sabbath if it were me.

Sabbath was there - just a bit low according to most. I have the same issue with most Dio albums I own. I love the guy's voice but I generally find there's maybe 3 songs I'd rate 11 out of 10 and another 3 or 4 that I rate as filler. Makes them hard albums to rate right at the top of a high quality list , even though the highs are godly.
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Post by: Big Hath on November 13, 2014, 08:18:26 AM: once were done with years, bands, etc I would love to see everyone's top 10 riffs lists.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 08:21:50 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 13, 2014, 08:18:26 AM
once were done with years, bands, etc I would love to see everyone's top 10 riffs lists.

Noted . Now that would be hard.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2014, 08:22:57 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 08:21:50 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on November 13, 2014, 08:18:26 AM
once were done with years, bands, etc I would love to see everyone's top 10 riffs lists.

Noted . Now that would be hard.
Very!
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Post by: bosk1 on November 13, 2014, 08:33:15 AM: The thing about 1980 for me is that it is the year I first really started to notice music on my own and start to develop my own musical tastes and preferences. Prior to that, like most kids, I just listened to whatever my parents were listening to. From this point onward, even when my listening followed along with what my parents were listening to (which was natural, since it was still what I was exposed to the most and what was most accessible), I began to identify with the music because I liked it as opposed to identifying with it simply because it was on my parents' radio. So, needless to say, 1980 is an EXCELLENT year to start this off, from my perspective.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2014, 08:44:51 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 13, 2014, 08:33:15 AM
The thing about 1980 for me is that it is the year I first really started to notice music on my own and start to develop my own musical tastes and preferences. Prior to that, like most kids, I just listened to whatever my parents were listening to. From this point onward, even when my listening followed along with what my parents were listening to (which was natural, since it was still what I was exposed to the most and what was most accessible), I began to identify with the music because I liked it as opposed to identifying with it simply because it was on my parents' radio. So, needless to say, 1980 is an EXCELLENT year to start this off, from my perspective.

Yeah, same for me. I probably became aware of my own tastes in 1979, but certainly by 1980. I already was into Kiss by then though.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2014, 12:56:02 PM: 1980 was my first year into music really. I'm not a huge VH fan. So much filler on every album, and short albums too.
Unmasked is a huge favourite of mine. Quality songwriting, could just have done with being produced a bit more rocking.
Not a big fan of Queen's The Game. The beginning of the end until Innuendo for me.
Can't fault most of the list there Brent but I would add Gillan's excellent Glory Road and UFO's No Place To Run.

Saxon's Wheels Of Steel and Strong Arm of The Law - 2 excellent albums in the same year. British Steel too. All these got lots of airplay with me.
I was a Motorhead fan in the early days - let's face it at the time there wasn't much competition.

ooh, Krokus' Metal Rendez-vous too. Not played that in an age. Going to rectify that now.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2014, 01:26:07 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 05:25:49 AM
Try not to be too "critical" - I'm hoping it'll be more of a good hearted discussion rather than taking pot shots/ analytical dissections of others' lists

No, it will all be in good fun.

Like many others I grew up in the 80s, born in 1970 I spent all my teenage years in the 80s with everything that goes with growing up :hat And I discovered music, a lot of music.

Your list is pretty solid. Can't argue with Ozzy and AC/DC.
Huge Van Halen fan, but Women & Children isn't really that good. Cradle, Whiskey and Simple Rhyme are good and I even like Could This Be Magic, but the rest, sadly, is filler material. But this was the first VH vinyl I bought. The other VH records I had only on tape, recorded by a friend. The vinyl came with a large "DLR in tight pants in some sleazy pose" poster, I think this was more for the girls. I'd rather have a EVH poster, because he was (and is) on of my absolute guitar heroes.
Ready an' Willing is my favorite blues-rock-era Whitesnake record. So many good song with Ain't Gonna Cry No More being one of my favorite Whitesnake tunes ever.
I never really got into Saxon and Kiss so I can't really comment there. I would have added Motörhead and maybe Def Leppard.
And Triumph is a band where I heard the name but don't recall ever hearing any music. They were completely under my radar and I think they weren't that big in Germany.

Let's see what 1981 brings.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 01:59:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 05:33:56 AM
1. Ozzy Osbourne : Blizzard of Ozz
2. AC/DC : Back In Black
3. Van Halen : Women and Children First
4. Michael Schenker Group: Michael Schenker Group
5. KISS : Unmasked
6. Saxon : Strong Arm Of The Law
7. Judas Priest: British Steel
8. Black Sabbath : Heaven and Hell
9. Whitesnake: Ready An' Willing
10:Triumph: Progressions of Power

Strange, but I guess it's clear to me now that I didn't get into the early 80s hard rock/heavy metal stuff, as I only own Back in Black, Strong Arm of the Law (just recently thanks to TAC) and Progressions of Power. Only know the 'hits' from all the other albums there.

Gonna listen to those albums, but in doing a favor for those of you that might participate in my upcoming roulette (you'll understand why when I start it), I'll refrain from listening to those that I don't know.
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Post by: Evermind on November 13, 2014, 02:04:36 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 05:33:56 AM
1. Ozzy Osbourne : Blizzard of Ozz
2. AC/DC : Back In Black
3. Van Halen : Women and Children First
4. Michael Schenker Group: Michael Schenker Group
5. KISS : Unmasked
6. Saxon : Strong Arm Of The Law
7. Judas Priest: British Steel
8. Black Sabbath : Heaven and Hell
9. Whitesnake: Ready An' Willing
10:Triumph: Progressions of Power

Strange, but I guess it's clear to me now that I didn't get into the early 80s hard rock/heavy metal stuff, as I only own Back in Black, Strong Arm of the Law (just recently thanks to TAC) and Progressions of Power. Only know the 'hits' from all the other albums there.

Gonna listen to those albums, but in doing a favor for those of you that might participate in my upcoming roulette (you'll understand why when I start it), I'll refrain from listening to those that I don't know.

You don't own Heaven and Hell? Whoa, that's unexpected.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2014, 03:38:14 PM: It was a great time in music.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2014, 04:05:09 PM: Chad, you need to check Heaven and Hell pronto. It's essential in anyone's collection.

That's a good list Brent, although MSG was one band I always meant to check out.

My list would include Maiden, Priest, Thin Lizzy.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 04:07:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 13, 2014, 04:05:09 PM

My list would include Maiden, Priest, Thin Lizzy.

Priest was in there and Lizzy only just missed the cut.

Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
Let's see what 1981 brings.

Confusion.............on what gem to listen to first ;D I'm just glad I don't have to include AOR classics too . The contenders number around 25 (vs 15 for 1980) and I'm going to try and give most of them a partial listen before finalising the list. This is a bit of a can't win year......no way I'll keep everyone happy. As with 1980 I'll try to apply some sort of weight to an album's influence on the world of music , along with what my faves are (which is still the main consideration).
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 04:09:28 PM: Quote from: Evermind on November 13, 2014, 02:04:36 PM
You don't own Heaven and Hell? Whoa, that's unexpected.

Nope... in fact, Paranoid is the only Sabbath album I own.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2014, 04:26:13 PM: Didn't see Preist in there for some reason, good to see, such a classic album.

Quote from: jingle.boy on November 13, 2014, 04:09:28 PM
Quote from: Evermind on November 13, 2014, 02:04:36 PM
You don't own Heaven and Hell? Whoa, that's unexpected.

Nope... in fact, Paranoid is the only Sabbath album I own.

I think you would like the Dio stuff more than the Ozzy.
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Post by: bosk1 on November 13, 2014, 04:26:31 PM: WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?
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Post by: WebRaider on November 13, 2014, 05:11:07 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 06:21:57 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2014, 05:50:29 AM
Unmasked..... Women and Children First.... Slow year, huh? :lol Love both bands, but both albums are among their very weakest.
Agree with Ozzy and AC/DC at least. Both killer. :tup The rest of the choices are good too, I'm just not as familiar with some of them.

I don't rate Unmasked as near KISS's best but on the other hand I don't think it's as bad as a lot make out.

As far as Women and Children First.......well you know how much I love VH. If it didn't make No 1 there's a damn good reason ;D I think on that album they went a bit too far to the humour side and the music suffered. But hey - it's still VH and still a good album.

WACF is really good stuff.. I mean Cradle, Everybody Wants Some!, Romeo Delight, Take Your Whiskey Home are all top notch IMO... I'm probably the biggest VH fanboy on the forum though cause I really don't rate much of their stuff as filler at all.

Heaven and Hell is too low for me but glad to see it listed as well.
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Post by: Big Hath on November 13, 2014, 07:04:32 PM: I'm in the process of making top 10 lists through the years for a different thread idea altogether.

My 1980 list also had Back In Black, Blizzard, Heaven and Hell. And like others mentioned, it also had Permanent Waves (#1), Maiden s/t, Zenyatta Mondatta, Ace of Spades, and Duke. The last two are the Blues Brothers soundtrack and Billy Joel's Glass Houses, neither of which even remotely fit the genre.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2014, 07:13:52 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 13, 2014, 07:04:32 PM
I'm in the process of making top 10 lists through the years for a different thread idea altogether.

My 1980 list also had Back In Black, Blizzard, Heaven and Hell. And like others mentioned, it also had Permanent Waves (#1), Maiden s/t, Zenyatta Mondatta, Ace of Spades, and Duke. The last two are the Blues Brothers soundtrack and Billy Joel's Glass Houses, neither of which even remotely fit the genre.
Neither does Zenyatta Mondatta or Duke.

This is the Heavy Metal / Classic Hard Rock thread people!!
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Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2014, 01:33:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 13, 2014, 04:05:09 PM
Chad, you need to check Heaven and Hell pronto. It's essential in anyone's collection.

That's a good list Brent, although MSG was one band I always meant to check out.

My list would include Maiden, Priest, Thin Lizzy.

Half the album is awesome - the other half not so. Join the awesome on this with the awesome on Mob Rules and you'd have one of the greatest albums ever - although some songs are very similar in style to ones on the other album.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2014, 01:37:46 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 14, 2014, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 13, 2014, 04:05:09 PM
Chad, you need to check Heaven and Hell pronto. It's essential in anyone's collection.

That's a good list Brent, although MSG was one band I always meant to check out.

My list would include Maiden, Priest, Thin Lizzy.

Half the album is awesome - the other half not so. Join the awesome on this with the awesome on Mob Rules and you'd have one of the greatest albums ever - although some songs are very similar in style to ones on the other album.
I completely agree, though I hold Heaven And Hell in higher regard than you. The only filler on it is Walk Away, and maybe Lady Evil. The rest of it is classic, though admittedly that's 25% of the album.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2014, 02:17:15 PM: Good AC/DC article, speaking candidly about Malcolm.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/acdc-malcolm-young-phil-rudd-rock-or-bust-20141114
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2014, 03:36:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 14, 2014, 01:37:46 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 14, 2014, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 13, 2014, 04:05:09 PM
Chad, you need to check Heaven and Hell pronto. It's essential in anyone's collection.

That's a good list Brent, although MSG was one band I always meant to check out.

My list would include Maiden, Priest, Thin Lizzy.

Half the album is awesome - the other half not so. Join the awesome on this with the awesome on Mob Rules and you'd have one of the greatest albums ever - although some songs are very similar in style to ones on the other album.
I completely agree, though I hold Heaven And Hell in higher regard than you. The only filler on it is Walk Away, and maybe Lady Evil. The rest of it is classic, though admittedly that's 25% of the album.

Walk Away would be the only filler. Lady Evil is awesome. There is more filler on Mob Rules IMO.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2014, 04:00:50 PM: I agree about Mob Rules. If I'm ranking the songs on H&H, I put Lady Evil at #7. It's ok. Filler would be a little strong I guess.
In fact..Rankings!!
1. Heaven And Hell
2. Die Young
3. Lonely Is The Word
4. Children Of The Sea
5. Neon Knights
6. Wishing Well
7. Lady Evil
8. Walk Away
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2014, 05:15:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 14, 2014, 04:00:50 PM
I agree about Mob Rules. If I'm ranking the songs on H&H, I put Lady Evil at #7. It's ok. Filler would be a little strong I guess.
In fact..Rankings!!
1. Heaven And Hell
2. Die Young
3. Lonely Is The Word
4. Children Of The Sea
5. Neon Knights
6. Wishing Well
7. Lady Evil
8. Walk Away

I'd probably go with this too actually.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2014, 06:06:39 PM: That's a good ranking, I would place Neon Knights behind Die Young.

As far as I'm concerned, there isn't any filler on H&H and Mob Rules. Two absolute classics!
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Post by: gazinwales on November 14, 2014, 06:52:10 PM: Pretty good version of Neon Knights sung in Finnish by someone we all know :metal
https://youtu.be/8cKR3ibkwes
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Post by: bl5150 on November 15, 2014, 05:16:03 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 14, 2014, 01:33:08 PM

Half the album is awesome - the other half not so. Join the awesome on this with the awesome on Mob Rules and you'd have one of the greatest albums ever - although some songs are very similar in style to ones on the other album.

Sorta fits in with what I was saying above.........

Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2014, 08:05:47 AM
I have the same issue with most Dio albums I own. I love the guy's voice but I generally find there's maybe 3 songs I'd rate 11 out of 10 and another 3 or 4 that I rate as filler. Makes them hard albums to rate right at the top of a high quality list , even though the highs are godly.

As far as Heaven and Hell goes with rankings I'm pretty close to TAC and wolfking , except I have Neon higher. For me , that one and the title track are the classics , Die Young and Lonely Is The Word are excellent and the rest is decent but relatively meh!

Almost through my 1981 listening - only 3 albums were set in stone at the top even before I started and the 4-10 spots were up for grabs. It's a lot clearer after a good listen.
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2014, 06:50:24 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 15, 2014, 05:16:03 AM

Almost through my 1981 listening - only 3 albums were set in stone at the top even before I started and the 4-10 spots were up for grabs. It's a lot clearer after a good listen.

Knowing you, you'll probably have Fair Warning up there, and Diary Of A Madman. You didn't include Permanent Waves, so I'm not sure how you view Moving Pictures, but I'd definitely put that in the 1981 Top 3.

Oh, and Thin Lizzy released Renegade on this day in 1981! :metal Damn..33 years!
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Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2014, 12:12:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 14, 2014, 04:00:50 PM
I agree about Mob Rules. If I'm ranking the songs on H&H, I put Lady Evil at #7. It's ok. Filler would be a little strong I guess.
In fact..Rankings!!
1. Heaven And Hell
2. Die Young
3. Lonely Is The Word
4. Children Of The Sea
5. Neon Knights
6. Wishing Well
7. Lady Evil
8. Walk Away
The awesome

1.Die Young
1. Children Of The Sea
1. Heaven And Hell
1. Neon Knights

The pretty good

5.Lonely Is the World

The average

6. Walk Away

Wishing Well

The poor with shit lyrics
Lady Evil
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2014, 01:04:38 PM: We're pretty close, bro.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2014, 01:47:41 PM: I think the top 5 songs are so good that it makes the average ones seem worse than they are. I listened to them seperately last night and missed out the classics and they were ok. Lady Evil is crap though even with the nod to Cliff Richard...
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Post by: bl5150 on November 15, 2014, 10:52:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 15, 2014, 06:50:24 AM

Knowing you, you'll probably have Fair Warning up there, and Diary Of A Madman. You didn't include Permanent Waves, so I'm not sure how you view Moving Pictures, but I'd definitely put that in the 1981 Top 3.

Oh, and Thin Lizzy released Renegade on this day in 1981! :metal Damn..33 years!

Good guess on VH and Ozzy - I'm not half predictable huh? - couldn't separate them for No 1. As far as Rush goes I find it hard to explain why I react to them so differently to all you guys when otherwise our tastes are often so close. I made myself listen to Moving Pictures for the sake of this exercise and I had the same response I always have with Rush. I found it listenable for the most part (although Geddy's voice does zero for me) but there was nothing I felt like playing again. I enjoy the chord progressions in Tom Sawyer and Red Barchetta etc....but the passages I enjoy - and there certainly are some - are too few and far between. Aside from very limited moments like say the start of The Camera Eye I also don't tend to get the feeling I'm "rocking" at all when I listen to Rush. But I'm the same with bands like Yes and the whole 70's prog rock scene too so maybe that's no surprise. I dunno.

My favourite track on Moving Pictures was YYZ 'cos Geddy kept quiet ;D Some very cool bass playing in there.

Anyway........I've tried hard to get on board with Rush and there's just no connection there at all for the most part. And yet Images and Words (which is supposedly one of DT's most heavily Rush influenced albums) is close enough to my favourite album of all time.

Not sure if I'll keep doing it but for 1981 I have done a short intro and listed those that were actively considered but didn't quite make it........

1981

Well off we venture into what (for me) is the beginning of the golden decade of rock and metal and 1981 had more than its fair share of classics in all types of rock. Even though not up for selection here I'd like to mention Journey's Escape and Foreigner's 4 - two all time classics from two all time classic bands/vocalists. WTF moment goes to Queen with Flash Gordon and perhaps KISS with The Elder . Back to the harder stuff .........

1981 saw a few bands produce good albums that still managed to drop off the pace they set in 1980 (AC/DC ,Judas Priest , Saxon , Black Sabbath, Whitesnake among others) , the arrival of a new force to be reckoned with (Motley Crue) and a couple of bands setting the foundations for upcoming legend status (Def Leppard and Iron Maiden).

Looking at the list of albums I considered was very imposing but giving them a good listen made things a lot clearer in terms of what appeals to me. Motley's Too Fast For Love is often touted as THE classic of 1981.........not for me though.

TOP 10 ALBUMS OF 1981

1. Ozzy Osbourne: Diary Of A Madman (TIE)
1. Van Halen: Fair Warning (TIE)
3. Def Leppard: High'n'Dry
4. Triumph: Allied Forces
5. Demon : Night Of The Demon
6. Tygers Of Pan Tang : Spellbound
7. Rainbow: Difficult To Cure
8. Frank Marino: The Power of Rock and Roll
9. Michael Schenker Group: MSG
10. Sammy Hagar : Standing Hampton(TIE)
10. Viva: What The Hell Is Going On(TIE)

MADE THE SQUAD BUT MISSED THE TEAM (no particular order)

Thin Lizzy: Renegade - was headed for Top 6 based on the first half but the last few songs are a snooze.
Riot: Fire Down Under - juuuuust missed out.
Saxon : Denim and Leather
Whitesnake : Come And Get It
Iron Maiden : Killers
Black Sabbath: Mob Rules
Accept : Breaker
Blue Oyster Cult: Fire Of Unknown Origin
Judas Priest: Point Of Entry
Praying Mantis : Time Tells No Lies
AC/DC: For Those About To Rock..
Rush : Moving Pictures (only through peer pressure ;D )
Motley Crue: Too Fast For love - aside from Livewire....meh!

For those wondering "Who the fuck is Viva?" they were a fairly obscure German metal band - main songwriter and keyboardist is Barbara Schenker , Michael's little sis'.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 15, 2014, 10:57:09 PM: Perfect top 2 picks. :tup
My next pick would have been Escape, but you've already said you're not counting that one.
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Post by: bosk1 on November 15, 2014, 11:03:40 PM: Far be it from me to say anyone is wrong for anything in a top 10 list. However, the glaring lack of Y&T's Earthshaker album is so criminally wrong that I can simply pray that God have mercy on your soul.

And I would have counted Escape as well.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 15, 2014, 11:52:52 PM: All of my top picks are included in either your top 10 or your HM's. Except for of course, Y&T. Earthshaker is an asskicker.

Rush, Sabbath, VH would be my top three. Brent, that will always be a strange one with yourself and Rush. Who knows, maybe one day lol.

I like Motley Crües debut, but I enjoy SATD twenty times more. Debut was a little too punky.

Diary is my favorite release overall from Ozzy.

Nice to see Triumph, MSG and Riot mentioned. All under appreciated gems.

I can tolerate Kiss' Elder release, but Creatures is 1000X better.

Priest will also turn it up a notch with their next release, but "desert plains" and "hot rockin" are two of my favorites.
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Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2014, 02:30:49 AM: Brent, I'd probably make my entire top 10 from you HM's. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 03:03:30 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 15, 2014, 11:03:40 PM
Far be it from me to say anyone is wrong for anything in a top 10 list. However, the glaring lack of Y&T's Earthshaker album is so criminally wrong that I can simply pray that God have mercy on your soul.

And I would have counted Escape as well.

When selecting the eligible bands I have tried to consider whether they best belong in this thread or the AOR thread . When in doubt I have allowed them but to me bands like Journey and Foreigner are more associated with AOR than hard rock.

I had a feeling Y&T might come up - despite appearances I didn't forget them . I love Y&T and Dave Meniketti but I have the same issue with them when it comes to ALBUM lists as I often do with Dio but even more so.

If I was to list my Top 100 bands Y&T would be higher than many in this list . If I were to list my Top 500 rock songs Y&T would feature more than many in this list. The trouble is that this list is about whole albums and I can't think of a band I like as much that has the amount of filler on their classic albums as Y&T do.

As far as Earthshaker goes I rate Rescue Me , I Believe In You and Let Me Go as excellent and most of the rest as filler. I'll begin praying :)
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 03:13:08 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 15, 2014, 11:52:52 PM

Priest will also turn it up a notch with their next release, but "desert plains" and "hot rockin" are two of my favorites.

Desert Plains and Hot Rockin' were 2 of the 3 songs I rated highly on POE - Desert Plains especially.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 03:19:45 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 16, 2014, 02:30:49 AM
Brent, I'd probably make my entire top 10 from you HM's. :lol

;D That's why I included them ,so at least you'd know that they were close and had been rated high enough to come under consideration. Motley Crue didn't meet my rating cutoff (75%) but it's so often mentioned as THE album of 1981 that I thought that I had better mention it.
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Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2014, 04:01:04 AM: Yeah, it's quality all round, can't go wrong with many of those.

Saying that, Ozzy would definitely be included in my list, top 5 probably.
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 07:59:49 AM: Aahh 1981. For me, this is the greatest year of released music in my life.

The spring of 1981 was the end of my 7th grade and the in the fall I was starting 8th. For the record I would turn 13 in September of 1981. I spent most of 1981 with my Big 3 (AC/DC, Van Halen, & Rush). I had other favorites like Aerosmith, even Ozzy, Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin, basically culling what can be heard from the radio.

So while I would go back and discover a lot of these great '81 albums in the next couple years, two really stood out for me at the time when I heard them. Def Leppard's High n Dry and Michael Schenker's MSG. They both so greatly influenced me. Def Leppard cemented me being a heavy metal fan, and Schenker would eventually lead me to one of my greatests loves, UFO.

I also wanted to mention two albums not mentioned that I also had in 1981. Joe Perry's I've Got The Rock n Rolls Again, and Ted Nugent's Intensities In 10 Cities.

I could go on all day! :lol

Anyway a few more thoughts..

..Point Of Entry is terrible! Although Heading Out To The Highway and Dessert Plains are so damn epic!
..Brent, nice to see you mention the Tyger's Spellbound (with John Sykes). Didn't they release Crazy Nights in 1981 too? I would take 1980's Wild Cat over both. Surprised you didn't list that.
..I distinctly remember getting Too Fast For Love in the 9th grade which was the fall of 1982. Quick Wiki research tells me that it was in fact released independently in late 81, but not by Elecktra until August of 82. That's when I first heard of it.
..Great quality releases from AC/DC and Van Halen
..The Elder is a definite WTF moment, by my personal WTF moment goes to Alice Cooper for Special Forces.
..I think it would be OK to include Moving Pictures on this list as Hard Rock, but this would certainly be the last time they could be considered.

Anyway, my Top 10 is:
1. Michael Schenker-MSG
2. UFO- The Wild The Willing And The Innocent
3. Def Leppard- High n Dry
4. Ozzy Osbourne- Diary Of A Mad Man
5. Thin Lizzy- Renegade
6. Rush- Moving Pictures
7. Riot- Fire Down Under
8. Van Halen- Fair Warning
9. Iron Maiden- Killers
10. Black Sabbath- Mob Rules

But there are so many great albums to mention.
Y & T- Earthshaker (though Black Tiger and Mean Streak are both much better!)
Saxon- Denim & Leather
Rainbow- Difficult To Cure
Blackfoot- Marauder
Triumph- Allied Forces
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 08:20:49 AM: Cool thoughts TAC - looks like I got most things covered. I was 6yo at the time so this is all working backwards for me ;D

As far as Tygers go , yes I believe they were rushed back into the studio by the label in '81 to do Crazy Nights. Not as good from memory. I have little memory of Wild Cat but I believe it was a bit "punkish" and had a much rougher vocalist than Deverill. Perhaps a bit more in the Motorhead vein and I don't like Motorhead much (although you still gotta love Lemmy ;D ) Also no Sykes so I never expected to like it. Will check it out if you think it's their best.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 08:23:27 AM: Oh.........and the original 1981 Too Fast For Love is generally known as the Leathur Records release and has one extra track that didn't make the Elektra release (Stick To Your Guns)
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 08:27:12 AM: I bought Wild Cat and Spellbound (on vinyl) together. You are right. Jess Cox was a lot less polished than Jon Deveril. Still there's an energy on Wild Cat that is missing from both Spellbound and Crazy Nights. Spellbound has a much cleaner sound, but the aggressiveness is not there. The playing is good enough, but the life is sucked out of it. None of those albums have really aged that well :lol so I doubt you are going to suddenly fall in love with Wild Cat..

I'd put Jess Cox closer to Paul Dianno than Lemmy though.
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 08:38:28 AM: Oh, and I'm not sure how, but I forgot one of my all time 1981 favorite albums. Lucifer's Friend's Mean Machine!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2014, 08:50:20 AM: I was 9/10 years old in '81, and still hadn't really 'discovered' rock music. From this list (and the HMs), many still slipped under my radar even when, in my teens, I started going back and discovering all the stuff I missed. Allied Forces is the only one that I actually own, but used to own Fair Warning and High 'N Dry. The rest... probably know a few songs here and there, but not much. From your HMs Brent, obviously I know Moving Pictures (#8 of all time for me), but also have For Those About to Rock, Too Fast For Love, Denim and Leather... and did have a listen to Fire of Unknown Origin during the BOC discog discussion.

I know ... :o
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 09:02:22 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 16, 2014, 08:50:20 AM
I was 9/10 years old in '81, and still hadn't really 'discovered' rock music.
1981 was really my "coming of age" year for music. What's great about it was that I was musically conscious as it was happening, and within a couple years later, I discovered all these great albums that were also released in 1981.
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 09:06:14 AM: Also conspicuously absent from any mention is Scorpions Animal Magnetism. I was thinking it was an 81 album, but it's actually an 80 album. It's easily their weakest of their classic albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 09:10:45 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2014, 09:06:14 AM
Also conspicuously absent from any mention is Scorpions Animal Magnetism. I was thinking it was an 81 album, but it's actually an 80 album. It's easily their weakest of their classic albums.

Aside from The Zoo there's very little I like on that album - wouldn't have made the cut for an HM.
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 09:17:51 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 09:10:45 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2014, 09:06:14 AM
Also conspicuously absent from any mention is Scorpions Animal Magnetism. I was thinking it was an 81 album, but it's actually an 80 album. It's easily their weakest of their classic albums.

Aside from The Zoo there's very little I like on that album - wouldn't have made the cut for an HM.

I agree. Such a step down from Lovedrive, and I KNOW Blackout is making the Top 10 of 1982! ;)
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2014, 09:45:08 AM: The Scorps are an inconsistent band to me. Lots of great tunes, but duds to go along with them
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 09:46:47 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 16, 2014, 09:45:08 AM
The Scorps are an inconsistent band to me. Lots of great tunes, but duds to go along with them

I agree............I tend to find some of their modern albums more consistent. Humanity : Hour 1 is a bit of a gem.
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 10:07:41 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 09:46:47 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 16, 2014, 09:45:08 AM
The Scorps are an inconsistent band to me. Lots of great tunes, but duds to go along with them

I agree............I tend to find some of their modern albums more consistent. Humanity : Hour 1 is a bit of a gem.
You do?? Humanity is the only decent thing they've released since Crazy World.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 10:09:12 AM: "Some" was one or two ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on November 16, 2014, 01:09:16 PM: A pretty good year. I can't disagree with many of the albums listed, although I've never heard of Viva and I wasn't a fan of early Accept or Tygers Of Pantang.

Diary is my favourite Ozzy album and I love The Elder, Point Of Entry and Earthshaker.
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 01:24:18 PM: Breaker was pretty good, but it was recorded pretty poorly. Would love to hear a modern rerecording of it. There are some great songs on it.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 16, 2014, 01:53:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2014, 01:24:18 PM
Breaker was pretty good, but it was recorded pretty poorly. Would love to hear a modern rerecording of it. There are some great songs on it.

I would need it without Udo on it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 04:13:50 PM: I just searched for something hilarious you once used to describe Udo but it seems to have been edited out Paul :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 04:37:10 PM: Bosk, Lowdz needs an avatar change to this guy:
(https://popdose.com/wp-content/uploads/UDO-Feature1.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2014, 07:43:56 PM: I don't think UDO will ever be described as an amazing singer, but his voice fit Accept perfectly.

Breaker is an excellent disc and the opening three tracks are killer!
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2014, 04:40:12 AM: UDO is the man, love him.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 17, 2014, 10:09:20 AM: Should have 1982 up late tomorrow.........
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Post by: TAC on November 17, 2014, 12:48:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 17, 2014, 10:09:20 AM
Should have 1982 up late tomorrow.........

Looking forward to it. A big step down from 1981, but some real good, and a couple great releases.
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Post by: TAC on November 17, 2014, 01:01:45 PM: So after hearing the first two tracks from the new AC/DC album, I am planning on picking this up. Standard AC/DC. The title tracks sounds like it could've come off Flick Of The Switch.
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Post by: bosk1 on November 17, 2014, 01:42:09 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 03:03:30 AM
I love Y&T and Dave Meniketti but I have the same issue with them when it comes to ALBUM lists as I often do with Dio but even more so.

If I was to list my Top 100 bands Y&T would be higher than many in this list . If I were to list my Top 500 rock songs Y&T would feature more than many in this list. The trouble is that this list is about whole albums and I can't think of a band I like as much that has the amount of filler on their classic albums as Y&T do.

You know, I actually cannot fault this reasoning one bit. That's completely fair. Personally, I think Earthshaker is easily the strongest of their early albums in that regard, but I still cannot strongly disagree with you in general. I will say, however, that IMO that was true of most of the bands of that era for me. Seems like most bands would put out albums where 1/3 to 1/2 of the songs were really solid, and the rest would feel like filler. Oh well.
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Post by: TAC on November 17, 2014, 01:48:00 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 17, 2014, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 03:03:30 AM
I love Y&T and Dave Meniketti but I have the same issue with them when it comes to ALBUM lists as I often do with Dio but even more so.

If I was to list my Top 100 bands Y&T would be higher than many in this list . If I were to list my Top 500 rock songs Y&T would feature more than many in this list. The trouble is that this list is about whole albums and I can't think of a band I like as much that has the amount of filler on their classic albums as Y&T do.

You know, I actually cannot fault this reasoning one bit. That's completely fair. Personally, I think Earthshaker is easily the strongest of their early albums in that regard, but I still cannot strongly disagree with you in general. I will say, however, that IMO that was true of most of the bands of that era for me. Seems like most bands would put out albums where 1/3 to 1/2 of the songs were really solid, and the rest would feel like filler. Oh well.
I don't think that ratio is specific to just that era (for all bands).

Bosk, I find both Black Tiger and Mean Streak better. My issue with Y&T isn't the filler, but the juvenileness of the filler.

Oh, and that's what I love about The Best Of Y&T '81-'85. They actually choose the best songs. Ecxept for the glaring ommission of Lonely Side Of Town.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 17, 2014, 01:57:43 PM: I think the filler issue is far worse now with bands feeling the need to fill out 70+ minutes whether they have the quality songs or not. I much preferred an old tape with 20 minutes of quality on each side. Sure it wasn't always like that but in my experience it happened a lot more often before CDs arrived.
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Post by: TAC on November 17, 2014, 02:00:10 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 17, 2014, 01:57:43 PM
I think the filler issue is far worse now with bands feeling the need to fill out 70+ minutes whether they have the quality songs or not. I much preferred an old tape with 20 minutes of quality on each side. Sure it wasn't always like that but in my experience it happened a lot more often before CDs arrived.

I know you're a big Van Halen fan, but once you removed the filler from their albums, you are left with about 20 minutes worth of awesome music! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 17, 2014, 02:01:03 PM: Wash your mouth out .......
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on November 17, 2014, 02:06:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 17, 2014, 01:48:00 PM
My issue with Y&T isn't the filler, but the juvenileness of the filler.

Normally, I couldn't fault you this one either...except when comparing them to a lot of the other bands we are discussing. I mean...Van Halen? Sammy? Scorpions? I think that criticism applies across the board, don't you?
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Post by: TAC on November 17, 2014, 02:10:15 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 17, 2014, 02:06:21 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 17, 2014, 01:48:00 PM
My issue with Y&T isn't the filler, but the juvenileness of the filler.

Normally, I couldn't fault you this one either...except when comparing them to a lot of the other bands we are discussing. I mean...Van Halen? Sammy? Scorpions? I think that criticism applies across the board, don't you?

True, but for some reason Y&T was able to achive such heights on so many songs. I would think that they were hitting another level and then bam, they cut their legs out from underneath themselves. This is what I love about Mean Streak.
Scorpions is a good comparison too.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 17, 2014, 03:08:48 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 04:13:50 PM
I just searched for something hilarious you once used to describe Udo but it seems to have been edited out Paul :lol

Something to do with him sounding like a big drunk camp German bloke? :biggrin:
Ruined a potentially great band for me. Far better now even though the new guy sounds quite similar.
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Post by: TAC on November 17, 2014, 03:11:33 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 17, 2014, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 04:13:50 PM
I just searched for something hilarious you once used to describe Udo but it seems to have been edited out Paul :lol

Something to do with him sounding like a big drunk camp German bloke? :biggrin:
Ruined a potentially great band for me. Far better now even though the new guy sounds quite similar.

That's too bad. They were (are) a great band. Too bad you can't enjoy them. I have a similar issue with King Diamond.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 17, 2014, 03:51:24 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 17, 2014, 03:08:48 PM

Something to do with him sounding like a big drunk camp German bloke? :biggrin:

That's the one. ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 17, 2014, 05:02:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 17, 2014, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on November 17, 2014, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2014, 03:03:30 AM
I love Y&T and Dave Meniketti but I have the same issue with them when it comes to ALBUM lists as I often do with Dio but even more so.

If I was to list my Top 100 bands Y&T would be higher than many in this list . If I were to list my Top 500 rock songs Y&T would feature more than many in this list. The trouble is that this list is about whole albums and I can't think of a band I like as much that has the amount of filler on their classic albums as Y&T do.

You know, I actually cannot fault this reasoning one bit. That's completely fair. Personally, I think Earthshaker is easily the strongest of their early albums in that regard, but I still cannot strongly disagree with you in general. I will say, however, that IMO that was true of most of the bands of that era for me. Seems like most bands would put out albums where 1/3 to 1/2 of the songs were really solid, and the rest would feel like filler. Oh well.
I don't think that ratio is specific to just that era (for all bands).

Bosk, I find both Black Tiger and Mean Streak better. My issue with Y&T isn't the filler, but the juvenileness of the filler.

Oh, and that's what I love about The Best Of Y&T '81-'85. They actually choose the best songs. Ecxept for the glaring ommission of Lonely Side Of Town.

Lonely Side of Town is an outstanding song
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Post by: TAC on November 17, 2014, 05:52:30 PM: Yes it is, and it's my only beef with an otherwise great Best Of CD.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 06:26:56 AM: So....1982 - I'll keep the format as for 1981 as that seemed to work okay. I should point out that for each year there's probably another 15 or 20 albums that I'm checking out in addition to those mentioned in the posts. All the ones I mention have met the criteria for at least an HM . I'm making sure to check out a whole heap of extra albums that are widely recognised as classics/underground classics (which I either don't like /own ) just to make sure they are in fact shithouse ;D In 1982 that included albums by bands like Venom,Witchfinder General,Anvil,Hanoi Rocks,Sammy Hagar, Manowar , Trance, Rose Tattoo and Riot. There are of course a few good albums that just miss the 75% rating cut off for an honourable mention **

I need to make sure I have all my bases covered with such a knowledgeable audience ;)

**I'm sorry to say TAC that Scorpions: Breakout was one of those - like jj said I just find most of their albums to have a fair dose of filler. Bosk1 , on the other hand , will be pleased to see Y&T made the cut on this occasion with an album that I find much more consistent than Earthshaker.

I should also give a nod to KISS: Killers. I haven't placed that album here but I did mention it in my Top 50. It is quite possibly the most important album ever for me - it was my first album of any kind and all I listened to from 1982 -1984 (7-9 yo) . It's a "best of "compilation with 4 extra tracks exclusive to that album and was only released in Australia, Europe and Japan. The extra tracks include a couple of my all time faves. So all things being equal it should probably be number one on this list , but I decided in this instance to exclude it .

1982

1982 was quite a strong year at the top of the list but outside of that ..........not so good. There were a few notable moments in rock/metal history - we had KISS don the makeup for the last time in their classic era and perhaps THE moment was the arrival of Bruce Dickinson in Iron Maiden. Aerosmith recorded their only Perry-less album and surprised with what may well be their hardest rocking effort ever - perhaps their last hard rocking album period.

In terms of music that has played a big part in my life the biggest moment of 1982 was the tragic death of Randy Rhoads. I wasn't aware of Ozzy or Randy in 1982 but after I became a fan aged 12 in 1986 I quickly worked my way back and became a big fan. It is speculated that Randy would've left Ozzy soon after anyway and in some ways that's ideal because I am a huge Jake E Lee fan too and would've loved the chance to see what Randy did independently. Anyway..........I have included Speak Of The Devil in the list below which is one of very few live albums in my collection (less than a dozen). I'm sure all you guys know it - the tour that followed Randy's death with Brad Gillis , Rudy Sarzo and Tommy Aldridge. It was my first introduction to the music of Black Sabbath and has some cool rocked up versions of Sabbath classics. I've also just ordered the DVD (released officially not so long ago) which captures the same tour but , unlike the CD, focuses almost exclusively on the songs from Blizzard and Diary.

Before any old maidens get into me about the position of The Number Of The Beast being too low I'll address that. I've never been a big time Maiden fan and anyone who knows me would be surprised to see them mentioned in any Top 10 list of mine. I enjoy their absolute best songs when I hear them but I had never actually bought an Iron Maiden album until recently. So it's a big nod from me to have the album in the Top 10 at all - almost like TAC listing Winger's Pull album because he just has to admit it's pretty damn good ;D Of course it doesn't hurt that a number of their best songs are on this album and so I've given it the kudos I think it deserves and a little bit of a boost above what I would rate it normally due to it's importance to metal in general.

Van Halen's Diver Down may also be controversial (rated too high). I think in the context of an album that was written and recorded in no time flat after Warners demanded an album pronto to back the unexpected success of (Oh)Pretty Woman it's a pretty fine effort. Sure it's half covers and short interludes but the new songs (Hang Em High, Secrets, Little Guitars, The Full Bug) are up there with much of the rest of their catalogue. I'm a sucker for any classic VH unless it's dire and I don't think Diver Down is as bad as many make out.

Aside from those two , I struggle to see too much that's controversial. Could be wrong though :D It goes without saying that Paul will be sick at the mention of Glenn Hughes...........but he'll recover :D

TOP 10 ALBUMS OF 1982

1.Gary Moore: Corridors of Power
2. KISS : Creatures of the Night
3. Judas Priest; Screaming For Vengeance
4. Van Halen : Diver Down
5. Ozzy Osborne: Speak Of The Devil (live)
6. Whitesnake: Saints and Sinners
7. Iron Maiden : The Number of the Beast
8 Hughes/Thrall: Hughes/Thrall
9 Y&T : Black Tiger
10. Michael Schenker Group: Assault Attack

MADE THE SQUAD BUT NOT THE TEAM
Mama's Boys: Plug It In
Vandenberg: Vandenberg
Krokus: One Vice At A Time
Aerosmith: Rock In A Hard Place
Rainbow: Straight between The Eyes
Twisted Sister: Under The Blade
Accept: Restless and Wild
Frank Marino: Juggernaut

Over to you guys...........
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 18, 2014, 06:34:43 AM: :tup No omissions that I can think of (in the genre, that is), but not the most exciting year for me for hard rock/metal.

Creatures is great, as is TNOTB, but again another VH album I'm not particularly fond of (aside from Dancin' in the Street and Pretty Woman, it's a lost cause), and only an average early Whitesnake album. Screaming for Vengeance is cool from what I remember, but I haven't gotten much into Priest.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 08:08:04 AM: Thanks Blob and fair enough re Diver Down. You're with the majority in not rating it.

From here the pace will slow a bit. I'll be rating and listening just as hard but from mid 80's to early 90's the number of candidates is going to go ballistic . I'll also likely need to increase the rating floor for an HM to 80% and then 85% or 90% later just to keep the list manageable. Rest assured that I'll be covering just about anything that makes noise but the number I mention in the thread as a % of the good albums will inevitably fall. There was just a ridiculous amount of top notch material from say 1984 to 1992.

Thankfully the number of albums I have already rated properly will also increase from here.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2014, 08:22:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 08:08:04 AM
There was just a ridiculous amount of top notch material from say 1984 to 1992.

And that'll be the point where I can jump in the fray. My metal collection from the early 80s is woefully inadequate. Saints n Sinners and # of the Beast are all that I have from he above. :blush
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 18, 2014, 09:26:18 AM: You have pretty much everything covered there Brent. I would definetely say that Creatures is my favorite release by far from Kiss. It's cool that you like Killers too; I find out of the 1000 best of releases from Kiss, that Killers is the best of them. The four new tracks on that release make it standout.

Priest and Maiden rule and I have no problem with Diver Down. Lots of people do and it probably pertains to the album having joke songs, interludes and covers; and being very short. But like you, I really love the first 6 VH albums and still find DD enjoyable. With that being said, there is no question it's the worst of the six.

The only omissions that I would include are the live releases from Sabbath and Saxon; Live Evil and Eagle has Landed. And I'm sure the release may be controversial, but I would still need to include Signals. Subdivisions is such an awesome song. Plus I would give a nod to a lesser known band from Canada, Coney Hatch. Very underrated hard rock band, they should have been much bigger.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 09:42:02 AM: Thanks jj - I'll check out the debut Coney Hatch. I have Friction (1985) and rate that quite highly
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Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2014, 11:37:51 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 09:42:02 AM
Thanks jj - I'll check out the debut Coney Hatch. I have Friction (1985) and rate that quite highly

You don't have the first 2 Brent? For shame. Both are better than Friction, though they really shouldn't let the bass player sing the odd song :biggrin:

Don't Say Make Me from the 2nd album is one of my favourite songs ever.

as gfar as KISS best ofs go, its Double Platinum all the way for me. Only Im A Legend Tonite and Nowhere To Run were worth it out of the new songs on Killers.

Bruce joining Maiden is one of those pivotal moments in music history!

As far as omissions Magnum's Chase The Dragon is a classic. ManOwaR's Battle Hymns is half awesome. UFO's Mechanix would be on my list - very overlooked album.

And I can't believe you left out the Split Beaver album... :biggrin:

That top 10 is pretty awesome - the HMs are a bit hit and miss for me. Only the Mama's Boys and Rainbow would make my list.

And how strange to think how few albums were released in those days compared to now...
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2014, 11:53:26 AM: No honorable mention for Never Surrender? On second thought... nah, it's their worst album of the 80s.

Also, not the right genre, but a shout out MUST go to Thriller.
:billiejean:
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 12:29:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 18, 2014, 11:37:51 AM

As far as omissions Magnum's Chase The Dragon is a classic. ManOwaR's Battle Hymns is half awesome. UFO's Mechanix would be on my list - very overlooked album.

All of those were considered. I owned only the UFO but did track them all down to listen for the exercise. UFO was borderline HM so good one there, although I get the feeling that I have never connected with that band quite like you have.........Manowar - I thought the title track was good and that's about it. Magnum on the whole I think are over rated (and barely hard rock much of the time) but I do really like a song or three off a number of their albums with the biggest numbers being around OASTN, Vigilante and Wings Of Heaven. So they might do better in that timeframe. Much of their latter day output especially I find a snooze. I will be re-listening to all their stuff along the way to be sure but Chase The Dragon was just rated as decent -high 60's- with a few very good(but no real standout) tracks for me. Faves were The Spirit, Sacred Hour and The Teacher,.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 12:47:12 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 18, 2014, 11:53:26 AM

Also, not the right genre, but a shout out MUST go to Thriller.
:billiejean:

Definitely - EVH played on it :tup ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2014, 01:36:03 PM: Fair enough Brent. Magnum were very English and I struggled with them pre Storyteller's tbh. I've grown to love CTD, and especially the remaster with one of their best songs, Back To Earth on it. How this was left off the original is beyond me. All the songs on here are far better live, but Soldier Of The Line, sacred Hour, The Spirit, The Lights Burned Out, On The Edge Of The World - great songs, they do struggle a bit to escape from the dull production/mix.

And with ManOwaR I prefer the epics - Dark Avenger (I have great memories of air guitaring to this in a rock club in Manchester with a young lady half my age... :heart), and Battle Hymn. Eric Adams has a fantastic voice.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 01:41:00 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 18, 2014, 01:36:03 PM
Fair enough Brent. Magnum were very English and I struggled with them pre Storyteller's tbh. I've grown to love CTD, and especially the remaster with one of their best songs, Back To Earth on it. How this was left off the original is beyond me. All the songs on here are far better live, but Soldier Of The Line, sacred Hour, The Spirit, The Lights Burned Out, On The Edge Of The World - great songs, they do struggle a bit to escape from the dull production/mix.

And with ManOwaR I prefer the epics - Dark Avenger (I have great memories of air guitaring to this in a rock club in Manchester with a young lady half my age... :heart), and Battle Hymn. Eric Adams has a fantastic voice.

My listen did have Back To Earth (live) on it and I did like that too.

I agree re Eric Adams but they rarely nail it with the music for me, especially with the early albums (which seems to be considered their best stuff by the fans) It doesn't seem to be that highly rated but for mine Kings Of Metal is the one album where they nailed it , even allowing for the usual overdose on cheese.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2014, 01:48:45 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 01:41:00 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 18, 2014, 01:36:03 PM
Fair enough Brent. Magnum were very English and I struggled with them pre Storyteller's tbh. I've grown to love CTD, and especially the remaster with one of their best songs, Back To Earth on it. How this was left off the original is beyond me. All the songs on here are far better live, but Soldier Of The Line, sacred Hour, The Spirit, The Lights Burned Out, On The Edge Of The World - great songs, they do struggle a bit to escape from the dull production/mix.

And with ManOwaR I prefer the epics - Dark Avenger (I have great memories of air guitaring to this in a rock club in Manchester with a young lady half my age... :heart), and Battle Hymn. Eric Adams has a fantastic voice.

My listen did have Back To Earth (live) on it and I did like that too.

I agree re Eric Adams but they rarely nail it with the music for me, especially with the early albums (which seems to be considered their best stuff by the fans) It doesn't seem to be that highly rated but for mine Kings Of Metal is the one album where they nailed it , even allowing for the usual overdose on cheese.

Good album but I started to lose interest after that one. Short albums with some filler. Hmm, sounds like another band we've been talking about? :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2014, 02:03:26 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 18, 2014, 06:34:43 AM
but again another VH album I'm not particularly fond of (aside from Dancin' in the Street and Pretty Woman, it's a lost cause),
Um..Dancin' In The Street and Pretty Woman make this a lost cause! ;D

Quote from: jingle.boy on November 18, 2014, 11:53:26 AM
No honorable mention for Never Surrender?
I like Never Surrender. When The Lights Go Down :metal

Quote from: Lowdz on November 18, 2014, 11:37:51 AM
Only Im A Legend Tonite and Nowhere To Run were worth it out of the new songs on Killers.
Good tunes!

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 18, 2014, 09:26:18 AM
Plus I would give a nod to a lesser known band from Canada, Coney Hatch. Very underrated hard rock band, they should have been much bigger.
I'll give them a nod, but that's about it. I bought their debut because they were opening for Maiden the following year and I wanted to familiarize myself with them. Their debut is not really that great if I'm being honest.
But good call on The Eagle Has Landed! :tup

My Top 10 would be:
1. Iron Maiden- The Number Of The Beast
2. Gary Moore- Corridors Of Power
3. Judas Priest- Screaming For Vengeance
4. UFO- Mechanix
5. Y&T -Black Tiger
6. Michael Schenker-Assault Attack
7. Aerosmith-Rock In A Hard Place
8. Scorpions- Blackout
9. Rainbow- Straight Between The Eyes
10. Riot- Restless Breed

* Two albums just missing my list are Restless And Wild and Creatures.

* I actually bought the Hughes/Thrall album back then, and it was just OK. Probably better than Whitford/St. Holmes though.

* I had the Mama's Boys album too. Bought it on Import. Listened to it quite a bit.

* And even though Diver Down is easily the weakest of the Original Six, I played the shit out of it when it came out.

* Loved Krokus too.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 02:12:45 PM: Good list TAC - although I thought the Riot was pretty average.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2014, 02:16:44 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 18, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Good list TAC - although I thought the Riot was pretty average.

Yes, I agree. It was my first exposure to them and the first one I bought. It would be a considerable step down from Fire Down Under and Narita. Born In America would be much better. But at the time, I really enjoyed it. Lotsa good albums there though. Could easily switch places with Krokus, Accept, or even Kiss.
But the list basically being my favorites, it was an important album for me.

And I still love Rock In A Hard Place.
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 02:44:15 PM: Fuck yeah, I just listened to Corridors of Power the other week, it's incredible.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2014, 02:59:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 02:44:15 PM
Fuck yeah, I just listened to Corridors of Power the other week, it's incredible.

It really is. If anyone reading this thread does not have it, they need to get it ASAP!
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 03:06:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 18, 2014, 02:59:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 02:44:15 PM
Fuck yeah, I just listened to Corridors of Power the other week, it's incredible.

It really is. If anyone reading this thread does not have it, they need to get it ASAP!

Absolutely. I'm expecting Run For Cover to get a mention. Gary's whole 80's run is just amazing rock all round.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 18, 2014, 03:07:35 PM: I know I'm likely in the minority here, but I can't stand Aerosmith. Like zero from them
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2014, 03:12:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 18, 2014, 03:07:35 PM
I know I'm likely in the minority here, but I can't stand Aerosmith. Like zero from them
Really? as in ZERO??
There's a lot not to like, but just about evrything up through (and including) Done With Mirrors is pretty solid.
I'm surprised to hear this.
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 03:13:54 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 18, 2014, 03:07:35 PM
I know I'm likely in the minority here, but I can't stand Aerosmith. Like zero from them

I definitely am with you. Everything I've heard from them I haven't liked at all, but saying that, I haven't checked out much o their work at all. How does their hits compare to other work?
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2014, 03:30:57 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 03:13:54 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 18, 2014, 03:07:35 PM
I know I'm likely in the minority here, but I can't stand Aerosmith. Like zero from them

I definitely am with you. Everything I've heard from them I haven't liked at all, but saying that, I haven't checked out much o their work at all. How does their hits compare to other work?

If someone doesn't already like Aerosmith, I don't know how I would convince them otherwise. Steven Tyler is basically a charicature of himself, and Joe Perry looks ridiculous trying to look cool, but classic (70's) Aerosmith is really good straight up rock. I think their 2nd album (74's Get Your Wings) and their 4th album (76's Rocks) are hard rock essentials. Toys In The Attic is widely considered one of their best, but for me, I don't really agree. I'll take the other two.
But my favorite Aerosmith album is 79's Night In The Ruts. Made during a pretty drugged up time, it is easily their heaviest album. Most people consider it one of their worst albums, but I love it.
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 03:42:56 PM: You're right, I doubt I'll ever like them, but I might have a listen to those couple of earlier ones.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2014, 03:52:32 PM: Two awesome tunes from Night In The Ruts:

Bone To Bone (Coney Island White Fish Boy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29jeUXj8g0Y

Think About It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=our2czoz5IU
Has an absolutely smoking guitar solo section.
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 04:04:33 PM: Yeah, those songs were cool enough, but not enough for me to get into them.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2014, 04:09:15 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 04:04:33 PM
Yeah, those songs were cool enough, but not enough for me to get into them.

That's cool.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 18, 2014, 04:19:44 PM: Aerosmith on drugs = awesomeness

Aerosmith off drugs = just ok.

Pump is the best of the latter albums but the early years were magical.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 18, 2014, 09:18:18 PM: I'll give them some credit, their rollar coaster is awesome though
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2014, 05:31:19 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 18, 2014, 09:18:18 PM
I'll give them some credit, their rollar coaster is awesome though

:tup :tup The two albums after Permanent Vacation (Pump, and Get a Grip) were pretty excellent - the ballads notwithstanding. I only know the early stuff through Pandora's Box. Been a while since I pulled that out.
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 05:41:20 AM: Pump was actually pretty good. Much heavier than Permanent Vacation.
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 07:24:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 03:06:16 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 18, 2014, 02:59:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 02:44:15 PM
Fuck yeah, I just listened to Corridors of Power the other week, it's incredible.

It really is. If anyone reading this thread does not have it, they need to get it ASAP!

Absolutely. I'm expecting Run For Cover to get a mention. Gary's whole 80's run is just amazing rock all round.

I followed Gary Moore through the 80's very closely. His best stuff was early on. I love the whole run of Corridors/Dirty Fingers/ Rockin' Every Night-Live In Japan. Victims was good enough.
I was actually disappointed with Run For Cover. There's some filler, and as awesome as Glen Hughes was, particularly on All Messed Up, I would just prefer to hear Gary sing it. Still Out In The Fields and Military Man make it a winner.
Also, though it has aged well, I wasn't in love with Wild Frontier when it came out, but was very happy with After The War.

I just did my 1983 Top 10. Lots of great albums being left out and will have to settle as Honorable Mentions. Actually I have a 10 way tie for #10! ;D
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Post by: bosk1 on November 19, 2014, 09:05:36 AM: I am...okay with these lists. :biggrin:

If it was me, I would definitely have to include Blackout. To me, that is one of the great all time rock albums. No One Like You and the title track are pure Scorpions classics (and general hard rock classics, for that matter). And the album follows up those two monster songs with a bunch of pretty strong "second tier" songs that are pretty great too in Can't Live Without You, You Give Me All I Need, Dynamite, When the Smoke Is Going Down, and the often-overlooked but pretty awesome deep cut China White. Honestly, the only songs I would consider filler on this album (and can't even really remember how they go) are Now! and Arizona.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2014, 09:08:48 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 19, 2014, 09:05:36 AM

If it was me, I would definitely have to include Blackout. To me, that is one of the great all time rock albums. No One Like You and the title track are pure Scorpions classics (and general hard rock classics, for that matter).

And there you have the only two tracks on the album that I return to regularly. Can't Live Without You is also pretty good.
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 09:12:14 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 19, 2014, 09:05:36 AM
I am...okay with these lists. :biggrin:

If it was me, I would definitely have to include Blackout. To me, that is one of the great all time rock albums. No One Like You and the title track are pure Scorpions classics (and general hard rock classics, for that matter). And the album follows up those two monster songs with a bunch of pretty strong "second tier" songs that are pretty great too in Can't Live Without You, You Give Me All I Need, Dynamite, When the Smoke Is Going Down, and the often-overlooked but pretty awesome deep cut China White. Honestly, the only songs I would consider filler on this album (and can't even really remember how they go) are Now! and Arizona.
China White is awesome. Such a sinister riff! The only song I don't care for off of Blackout is Arizona.
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Post by: bosk1 on November 19, 2014, 09:15:48 AM: Probably my favorite song on the album after the big two.
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Post by: WebRaider on November 19, 2014, 12:12:40 PM: Yeah I'd probably have Blackout in there. Diver Down is probably the least fav of the classic Dave era VH but it definitely would be in my top 10 too.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2014, 12:14:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 18, 2014, 03:07:35 PM
I know I'm likely in the minority here, but I can't stand Aerosmith. Like zero from them

I can't stand their 70s output and only really like Permanent Vacation, Pump and parts of Get A Grip.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2014, 12:23:00 PM: Gary Moore was a big favourite of mine and I saw him live countless times. I was a big fan from CoP onwards but I was disappointed with After The War. A coouple of decent tracks but the title track was an attempt to write out In The Fields again and there was alot of filler.Enjoyed the blues albums but it got old very fast after the first 2.

Blackout is a pretty good album but I'm really a greatest hits/ live album fan when it comes to Scorpions. Savage Amusement and Crazy World were really good though.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2014, 12:25:05 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 19, 2014, 12:23:00 PM
Gary Moore was a big favourite of mine and I saw him live countless times. I was a big fan from CoP onwards but I was disappointed with After The War. A coouple of decent tracks but the title track was an attempt to write out In The Fields again and there was alot of filler.Enjoyed the blues albums but it got old very fast after the first 2.

Blackout is a pretty good album but I'm really a greatest hits/ live album fan when it comes to Scorpions. Savage Amusement and Crazy World were really good though.

Agree with every word (except I never saw Gary live :'( )
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 12:57:24 PM: I think I'm the exact opposite from you guys sometimes. I thought After The War was great as it was rocking after the relatively soft Wild Frontier.

Savage Amusement and Crazy World are decent enough, but the run Taken By Force through Love At First Sting (minus An Mag) is pretty strong.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2014, 01:21:49 PM: As we get into the mid-late 80's I think opinions are going to diverge even more. So far I think we've been about as consensus-like as you could get in a group of rock/metal fans , but I think some of us embraced the "hair metal" side while others stayed "true metal" to the core :D

I possibly would've been more into bands like early Scorps and Maiden if I'd grown up with them but during the 80's - my school years - (Ozzy WASP and Queensryche aside) I was pretty much purely hard rock/hair metal and most of that didn't start until around 1986. It wasn't until the late 80's/early 90's that I began to really get into prog metal and then the "classic metal" side of things was last , inspired by Painkiller most likely . Some even recent days :lol ..........I really like Revelations by Maiden now I've heard it :laugh: .

Another big factor from my point of view is total lack of radio play for a lot of these bands. I don't know about other countries but the only Scorpions song I have EVER heard on mainstream radio is Winds of Change. If they toured here they'd be doing pub gigs or supporting Steel Panther :D

And Kade.........hope everything's okay in those storms. Looks pretty wild up there.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2014, 01:34:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 19, 2014, 12:57:24 PM
I think I'm the exact opposite from you guys sometimes. I thought After The War was great as it was rocking after the relatively soft Wild Frontier.

Savage Amusement and Crazy World are decent enough, but the run Taken By Force through Love At First Sting (minus An Mag) is pretty strong.

There's bound to be some differences here and there - you're just wrong this time :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 02:01:54 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 19, 2014, 01:21:49 PM
As we get into the mid-late 80's I think opinions are going to diverge even more. So far I think we've been about as consensus-like as you could get in a group of rock/metal fans , but I think some of us embraced the "hair metal" side while others stayed "true metal" to the core :D

I possibly would've been more into bands like early Scorps and Maiden if I'd grown up with them but during the 80's - my school years - (Ozzy WASP and Queensryche aside) I was pretty much purely hard rock/hair metal and most of that didn't start until around 1986. It wasn't until the late 80's/early 90's that I began to really get into prog metal and then the "classic metal" side of things was last , inspired by Painkiller most likely . Some even recent days :lol ..........I really like Revelations by Maiden now I've heard it :laugh: .

Another big factor from my point of view is total lack of radio play for a lot of these bands. I don't know about other countries but the only Scorpions song I have EVER heard on mainstream radio is Winds of Change.

We had a good radio station nearby in Providence and a couple good ones in Boston. But the Providence station starting in late 82 would have a Metal Hour every Saturday night at Midnight that I listened to faithfully. I used to record them and keep a playlist. The DJ who started that would eventually pass the show on to a guy named Dr. Metal, who would eventually be killed in the Station Nightclub fire.
Anyway, that's the place where I first heard Hit The Lights, Queen Of The Reich, that sort of thing.

Also as you say, things tend to branch out in short order soon, so hopefully everyone will share THEIR list as well.
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Post by: bosk1 on November 19, 2014, 02:09:35 PM: Yeah, fair enough. I can post the correct list, and each of you can share your opinions.
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 02:19:41 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on November 19, 2014, 02:09:35 PM
Yeah, fair enough. I can post the correct list, and each of you can share your ~~opinions~~ high praise.

I'm not going to have to camp out early for that line am I?
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2014, 03:27:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 19, 2014, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 19, 2014, 01:21:49 PM
As we get into the mid-late 80's I think opinions are going to diverge even more. So far I think we've been about as consensus-like as you could get in a group of rock/metal fans , but I think some of us embraced the "hair metal" side while others stayed "true metal" to the core :D

I possibly would've been more into bands like early Scorps and Maiden if I'd grown up with them but during the 80's - my school years - (Ozzy WASP and Queensryche aside) I was pretty much purely hard rock/hair metal and most of that didn't start until around 1986. It wasn't until the late 80's/early 90's that I began to really get into prog metal and then the "classic metal" side of things was last , inspired by Painkiller most likely . Some even recent days :lol ..........I really like Revelations by Maiden now I've heard it :laugh: .

Another big factor from my point of view is total lack of radio play for a lot of these bands. I don't know about other countries but the only Scorpions song I have EVER heard on mainstream radio is Winds of Change.

We had a good radio station nearby in Providence and a couple good ones in Boston. But the Providence station starting in late 82 would have a Metal Hour every Saturday night at Midnight that I listened to faithfully. I used to record them and keep a playlist. The DJ who started that would eventually pass the show on to a guy named Dr. Metal, who would eventually be killed in the Station Nightclub fire.
Anyway, that's the place where I first heard Hit The Lights, Queen Of The Reich, that sort of thing.

Also as you say, things tend to branch out in short order soon, so hopefully everyone will share THEIR list as well.

Tim, you talking WAAF?
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 03:33:50 PM: Well, I listened to HJY in providence, but yes WAAF (I know it was Worcester) was huge. I wore an AAF t shirt everyday when I was in the 8th Grade.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2014, 03:35:42 PM: There was also a show for metal and still to this day on a NH radio station WHEB. Though the metal today is a thousand times heavier.
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 03:40:57 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on November 19, 2014, 03:35:42 PM
There was also a show for metal and still to this day on a NH radio station WHEB. Though the metal today is a thousand times heavier.

SMU's college radio station did a metal show. I met the kid that did the show waiting in line for tickets once. Won KISS tix for the Asylum tour in Providence from them! I did my own Metal Show on my college radio station for 3 1/2 years.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2014, 03:43:07 PM: I did my own mixed metal tapes from my basement. :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 03:49:56 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on November 19, 2014, 03:43:07 PM
I did my own mixed metal tapes from my basement. :lol

:metal :metal
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2014, 03:52:01 PM: Remember how long those and the CD mixes took. Now, 5 minutes on my I-Tunes and BAM!! Nixed playlist!
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 04:07:03 PM: It was a labor of love. It was a lot of work and you really had to consider running order. Some of those song transitions still stick to me 25 years later. Everytime I hear the end of Still Of The Night, I expect Master Of Puppets to kick in! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2014, 04:10:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 19, 2014, 04:07:03 PM
It was a labor of love. It was a lot of work and you really had to consider running order. Some of those song transitions still stick to me 25 years later. Everytime I hear the end of Still Of The Night, I expect Master Of Puppets to kick in! :lol

Same here re mix tapes - I just found a whole ton of them. Most of them likely don't even play but just looking at the track lists brought back heaps of memories.

It was a dream of mine to do a college radio show but by the time I reached college all anybody wanted to hear was Nirvana and Red Hot Chili Peppers >:( Couldn't do it.

"Ok....... and here's Red Hot............................And Ready by Y&T " :) I would've been sacked very quick.
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2014, 04:21:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 19, 2014, 04:10:51 PM
It was a dream of mine to do a college radio show

I still remember interviewing with the Program Director when I got to school. The guy was like, "I'm sure you know bands like AC/DC and Iron Maiden, but what about obscure bands like Saxon and Riot". I stopped him dead in his tracks and named the members and albums by each band. :metal
So I got paired up at first with a guy already on air because I didn't know the equipment. He was into punk stuff, so I had to split time with Suicidal, DRI, that kind of thing, but when I came back for my sophomore year, he was gone and the show was mine!

Quote from: bl5150 on November 19, 2014, 04:10:51 PM
It was a dream of mine to do a college radio show but by the time I reached college all anybody wanted to hear was Nirvana and Red Hot Chili Peppers
I actually like One Hot Minute. With such slim pickings in the mid 90's for me, it will likely make my 1996 Top 10 when you get to that year.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2014, 05:43:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 19, 2014, 04:07:03 PM
It was a labor of love. It was a lot of work and you really had to consider running order. Some of those song transitions still stick to me 25 years later. Everytime I hear the end of Still Of The Night, I expect Master Of Puppets to kick in! :lol

Damn straight. There's also a handful of songs I expect to end before the last 5-8 seconds finish, because I didn't time the mix properly.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 19, 2014, 05:55:13 PM: I always tred to make a mix like a concert.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2014, 03:11:28 AM: Loved the mixed tapes!! Played them loud driving in my dads 1985 LeBaron
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Post by: TAC on November 20, 2014, 06:42:20 AM: New UFO album in February.
https://bravewords.com/news/ufo-to-release-a-conspiracy-of-stars-in-early-2015-artwork-revealed
I sure hope it's better than the last one!
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2014, 07:44:43 AM: I haven't heard anything new from UFO since their 95 reunion album
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Post by: TAC on November 20, 2014, 07:50:54 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 20, 2014, 07:44:43 AM
I haven't heard anything new from UFO since their 95 reunion album

Honestly, there's not a lot of great stuff. They would make two more albums with Michael Schenker after Walk On Water. 2000's Covenant is freaking awesome though. They have since made 4 albums with Vinnie Moore. From the four, you could make one real great mix CD.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2014, 09:09:33 AM: Really enjoy their 70s and early 80s stuff, but never looked into them beyond that
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Post by: TAC on November 20, 2014, 09:20:06 AM: 300 pages through Paul Stanley's book and am enjoying it immensely.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2014, 09:23:05 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 20, 2014, 09:20:06 AM
300 pages through Paul Stanley's book and am enjoying it immensely.

Funny you should mention that . I was just told to go spend $100 on myself for stuff to give to others to give me back for Xmas ::) I have a few DVDs in mind and was also looking at a couple of rock autobiographies. I was thinking Ozzy and Paul Stanley. I was surprised at how universally positive the reviews on Ozzy's are actually.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2014, 01:40:51 PM: I should be done on '83 by the end of the day - done a heap of listening for this one . I can understand why TAC had a 10 way tie for 10th. As per usual I've rated a couple of classics a bit lower than is the consensus :angel: but on the whole I don't expect too much flak ;D

It'll be nice to get to some years where I can just reel a few off from memory of growing up with the albums. Although the number of albums eligible is about to blow out big time :omg:.

Another album I'm going to listen to over the next couple of days is a band Gary Moore fronted for one album called G-Force. I had forgotten about it altogether - it's among the hundreds of albums I have tracked down over the years but never really listened to. If it's good I'll add it to the 1980 post.

Actually.....................make it "over the weekend.". Just discovered another dozen albums I need to check out. 1983 was a pretty amazing year.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 20, 2014, 01:55:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 20, 2014, 09:20:06 AM
300 pages through Paul Stanley's book and am enjoying it immensely.

I enjoyed it. But I enjoyed Peter's too even though it was all "I did really stupid things when I took stupid amounts of drugs but it's all Gene and Paul's fault I'm a fuck up". :biggrin:

And Ace's No Regrets. He should have lots of regrets.
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2014, 04:37:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 20, 2014, 06:42:20 AM
New UFO album in February.
https://bravewords.com/news/ufo-to-release-a-conspiracy-of-stars-in-early-2015-artwork-revealed
I sure hope it's better than the last one!

Yeah, the last one was pretty terrible.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 21, 2014, 08:07:47 AM: Don't have the time to comment as much as I want to but I'm still following and trying to catch up. Overall no strong disagreement from me to the lists so far.

And just a few random comments:

Magnum's Chase The Dragon is great but all in all they are more rock than hard rock. And I always thought the were underrated and not overrated.

I really like Aerosmith but i never liked Rock In A Hard place, easily one of the worst records by them. Their output up to the split is great. So are Pump and Get A Grip, and that's definitely including the ballads. And tracks like Fever or Flesh are rocking as hard as any 70s song.

Diver Down is a good enough record, I really like it, but it's a bit inconsistent and very very short, even for early VH standards. The worst of the first six, but that's not saying much because VH is always exceptional.

I never came to like The Scorpions. Being a german band, they got a good amout of airplay, especially Rock You Like A Hurricane and Still Loving You but I really can't stand Meine's voice. And when Wind Of Change came out that killed every little sympathy I had left for them :biggrin:
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 21, 2014, 12:03:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 20, 2014, 09:20:06 AM
300 pages through Paul Stanley's book and am enjoying it immensely.

I'm up to Revenge right now. Peter was such a tool. Ace, well you can see where that was going. :lol Gene? Always about himself. Paul always had to reel him in.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 22, 2014, 11:46:28 PM: It's taken me a while to get to a point where I feel I've got 1983 covered - I must've listened to 40+ albums this week to either refresh my memory or try albums that others regard as classics (low strike rate there :D ). Living in 1983 for the best part of the last week has been a bit of an eye opener. Not that I was really "music aware" at the time aside from KISS , but even so I'd never properly appreciated what a pivotal year it was. I would find it hard to argue with someone who suggested that it's the most important year in metal ever.

Aside from the big event of KISS "de-masking" we had (amongst others) the following bands forming: Testament, Stryper, Poison,Megadeth,Lizzy Borden, Helloween, Bon Jovi, Alcatrazz,Death

and debut albums from : Metallica, Queensryche (EP),Slayer,Mercyful fate, Ratt (EP), Pantera, Lita Ford, Savatage, Suicidal Tendencies,Dio , Europe, Dokken, Fastway,Waysted, Shy, Pretty Maids(EP).............the list goes on.

We also saw the final album from Lynott lead Thin Lizzy and the debut of Jake E Lee (a big fave of mine) in Ozzy's band.

I decided to keep the rating cutoff for an honourable mention at 75% because if I had made it 80% (which I will in 1984) then I would've excluded some well loved classics and we would've needed water cannons and tear gas to protect me from the rioters. I shocked myself by including Iron Maiden in the Top 10 again based on my new ratings - seems my tastes are changing a little. If it's not clear by now I'm doing these lists based mostly on how I view albums now , not based on how I rated them years ago.

TOP TEN ALBUMS FOR 1983

1. Def Leppard: Pyromania
2. Ozzy Osbourne: Bark At The Moon
3. Queensryche: Queensryche (EP)
4. Blackfoot: Siogo
5. Gary Moore: Victims Of The Future
6. KISS : Lick It Up
7. Krokus: Headhunter
8. Motley Crue: Shout At The Devil
9. Iron Maiden : Piece Of Mind
10: Dokken : Breaking The Chains (TIE)
10: Rainbow: Bent Out Of Shape(TIE)

MADE THE SQUAD BUT NOT THE TEAM

I didn't want a six way tie for 10th so these missed by a bee's dick :

Thin Lizzy: Thunder And Lightning
Savatage: Sirens
Europe: Europe
Heavy Pettin' : Lettin' Loose

and the rest in no particular order..........

Accept: Balls To The Wall
Alcatrazz: No parole From Rock n Roll
Dio : Holy Diver
Helix: No Rest For The Wicked
Twisted Sister: You Can't Stop Rock n Roll
Y&T: Mean Streak
Zebra: Zebra
Vandenberg: Heading For A Storm
Shy: Once Bitten........Twice Shy
Ratt: Ratt (EP)
Warlord: Deliver Us (EP)
Demon: The Plague
Triumph: Never Surrender
UFO: Making Contact

I'm sure that Holy Diver being out of the Top 10 will bewilder a few but for me it's a typical Dio album.......IMHO it contains 2 killer/classic songs, 4 very good ones and 3 fillers which , up against stiff competition , makes it hard for me to rate it high enough to make the Top 10 even though the best songs are :metal.

Another extremely good year next....... meanwhile I'm going to take a break from the 80's for 24 hours :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2014, 11:55:37 PM: Holy Diver is better than all of these albums, except maybe BATM.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2014, 12:08:34 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
Holy Diver is better than all of these albums, except maybe BATM.

No it's not ;D ........in my humble opinion.

To be honest I'm surprised that you're familiar with every album I listed .......I wasn't before the exercise.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 23, 2014, 01:11:35 AM: The bees dick line was very funny.

This year has my favorite releases overall from Dio ( would be my number 1), Def Lep, Crüe, Accept, Thin Lizzy, Twisted Sister and Y&T. So this would be an impressive year overall.

Not mentioned are Black Sabbath- Born Again, Coney Hatch- Outa Hand, Triumph- Never Surrender, and a very underrated gem- Steeler!

There are a few on your list that I'm not overly familiar with, but excellent list overall. Except for obviously the Dio situation lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2014, 01:21:29 AM: I thought Born Again was awful . You can tell that Gillan had the voice for it but very few of the songs impressed me at all.

I need to check my rating on Triumph - might have missed that one, so will add as required. Steeler's pretty good - yeah.

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 23, 2014, 01:11:35 AM
Except for obviously the Dio situation lol

We officially have a situation :o :D
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Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2014, 03:25:13 AM: Both Dio and Black Sabbath would probably make my top 5, but that's a good list.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 23, 2014, 05:31:01 AM: Dio, Triumph & Zebra would make my top 10.

I thought Bark At The Moon was a poor album from Ozzy. I love Rainbow's Bent Out Of Shape. Saw them on that tour with Aldo Nova opening.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2014, 06:49:40 AM: As I mentioned earlier (when I inadvertently thought it was released in 1982), Never Surrender is the worst of Triumph's 80s output, but still a pretty good album. Still not a lot here that I'm familiar with, 1983 is woefully under-represented in the jingle.library. And as good as the QR EP is (was just listening to it the other day), I have trouble rating it above a full album, especially the likes of Piece of Mind, Shout at the Devil, Holy Diver, and Mean Streak.
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2014, 07:09:45 AM: Yeah! 1983!!!

Will post when I get home. I need a keyboard!!!!

Nice list Brent. I loved that Heavy Pettin' album.
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2014, 12:10:40 PM: OK..mad props Brent for including Siogo and Headhunter on your list. That Blackfoot album is great, and I consider Headhunter to be the definitive Krokus album. It easily still holds up today.

Here's my list:
1. Metallica- Kill 'Em All
2. Iron Maiden-Piece Of Mind
3. Dio- Holy Diver
4. Saxon- Power And The Glory

Not sure how I forgot this..
Thin Lizzy -Thunder And Lightning.
would put it here on the list.

5. Ozzy Osbourne- Bark At The Moon
6. Y&T- Mean Streak
7. Accept- Balls To The Wall
8. Heavy Pettin'- Lettin' Loose
9. Loudness- Live-Loud-Alive
10.Tie :
Waysted-Vices
Riot- Born In America
UFO-Making Contact
MSG-Built To Destroy
Twisted Sister- You Can't Stop Rock n Roll
Blackfoot-Siogo
Gary Moore-Dirty Fingers
Queensryche- EP
Quiet Riot- Metal Health
Def Leppard- Pyromania
Krokus-Headhunter
;D

Seriously so many great albums.

I didn't list Lick It Up, though it was huge for the band. For their 80's output, I would still rate Asylum, Creatures, and Animalize over it.

And regarding Dokken's Breaking The Chains, I bought that when it came out. The title track is great, but I was severely disappointed with it. There's nothing remotely close to BTC, as the rest is pretty weak and thin. I loved Paris Is Burning though.

I'd also like to single out Loudness' Live Loud Alive album. This is one of the best live albums I've ever heard. Sure it's sung in Japanese, but musically, it's breathtaking!

I saw my first two concerts at the age of 14 in 1983.
Def Leppard/Krokus/Gary Moore 6/25/83
Iron Maiden/Fastway/Coney Hatch 8/27/83
Both at the old Cape Cod Coliseum.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2014, 01:03:54 PM: Def Leppard Pyromania
Y&T Meanstreak
Saxon Power And Glory
Alcatrazz No Parole From Rock n Roll
Dio Holy Diver
Manowar Into Glory Ride
KISS Lick It Up
thin Lizzy Thunder & Lightning
Maiden Piece Of Mind
Motley's Shout At The Devil

Close would be
Rock Goddess - Hell Hath No Fury (loved Jody Turner :heart)
UFO's Making Contact
Savage Loose n Lethal
Steeler
Coney Hatch Outa Hand,
Killer Dwarfs' first one,
Gary Moore's Victims Of The Future,
Blackfoot Siogo

Stevie Ray Vaughan Texas Flood (not in the right genre but deserves the recognition)

I wasn't a fan of Breaking The Chains at all either. One good song.
BATM isn't a big favourite of mine, especially the UK version which didn't rock as much as the US version.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2014, 04:11:49 PM: Thanks for the lists guys - still a decent consensus there but a few we have totally opposite views on. For me the albums I found pretty weak were Saxon , Riot, MSG, Quiet Riot (aside from the 2 classics) and Manowar.

I should've made a note against the Dokken. You guys might be aware of this but Breaking The Chains was originally released in Germany by the Carrere label as Don Dokken : Breaking The Chains in 81/82 and then polished up (watered down) significantly and re-released by Elektra in the US in 1983.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IBigK-nP7zw/TD2EVl_aaBI/AAAAAAAANbU/Yu-6JeuUGE4/s1600/Dokken-Breakin%27+The+Chains-Front.jpg) (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5408/153534268.b/0_7bf62_e66d9834_orig.jpg)

Not only does it sound much rawer but it includes the studio version of Paris Is Burning (Paris). I'm aware that some Dokken fans who don't like the US version really love the Carrere version.

Texas Flood crossed my mind too Paul. I've also added the UFO to my HM's.........as you know I'm not the hugest fan but on this one they started to sound more 80's = more up my alley :)

Re Ozzy ......how they ever released it with Spiders in place of Slow Down is a mystery to me. I wasn't even aware of that until Paul mentioned it. That would dramatically alter the rhythm vs the album I grew up with. Slow down is one of my top few tracks and I don't like Spiders. Going to have a listen today to something I've had sitting around for a while - Ozzmosis demos which has a number of tracks that never made the album. No idea how good it is.
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Post by: TAC on November 24, 2014, 05:14:03 AM: I've actually never heard the original version of Breaking The Chains. I do remember that when they came out, a lot of people thought they were from Germany.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 24, 2014, 06:30:50 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 23, 2014, 04:11:49 PM
Re Ozzy ......how they ever released it with Spiders in place of Slow Down is a mystery to me. I wasn't even aware of that until Paul mentioned it. That would dramatically alter the rhythm vs the album I grew up with. Slow down is one of my top few tracks and I don't like Spiders. Going to have a listen today to something I've had sitting around for a while - Ozzmosis demos which has a number of tracks that never made the album. No idea how good it is.

Stop being wrong. :lol Slow Down is filler. I can't imagine the album without Spiders, as it's easily one of the best songs on the album.

I didn't know they'd actually released much of the scrapped stuff from Ozzmosis, but I must hear this. I think a lot of it was scrapped simply because it's not the direction the label wanted, so I wouldn't expect it to be too bad.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2014, 06:33:24 AM: There's that many freakin polls on DTF at the moment I might start posting a few new ones............like " Here's two songs to choose from.........who's right ..........Blob or everyone else?" ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 24, 2014, 06:35:26 AM: ::) I'm used to this forum being backwards to the rest of the world already. It's a prog thing.
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Post by: TAC on November 24, 2014, 06:39:21 AM: I think I'd prefer Slow Down. Either song would be the worst on the album anyway.
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Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 04:38:35 PM: Spiders >>> Slow Down.

Although, I never got the love for BATM, IMO the album has a lot of filler.
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Post by: TAC on November 24, 2014, 04:41:21 PM: No way!! Bark At The Moon is great!

Bark At The Moon
Rock n Roll Rebel
Journey To The Centre Of The Universe
You're No Different
All great tunes! Plus the masterpiece Waiting For Darkness.

Now if you want filler, just look at The Ultimate Sin!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2014, 05:04:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 24, 2014, 04:41:21 PM
No way!! Bark At The Moon is great!

Bark At The Moon
Rock n Roll Rebel
Journey To The Centre Of The Universe
You're No Different
All great tunes! Plus the masterpiece Waiting For Darkness.

Now if you want filler, just look at The Ultimate Sin!

Ultimate Sin roolz ;D Just about anything metal with Jake on it , I get by just with the guitar playing. And that's the main reason I love Slow Down most likely - Jake rips on it.
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Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 05:08:39 PM: I should go back to BATM then. I tried it so many times but just couldn't really connect with. TUS on the other hand, was a big step up.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 24, 2014, 05:42:08 PM: I would probably pick the Ultimate Sin over BATM slightly just because the title track and Shot in the Dark are two of my all time favorite Ozzy songs
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Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 05:44:07 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 24, 2014, 05:42:08 PM
I would probably pick the Ultimate Sin over BATM slightly just because the title track and Shot in the Dark are two of my all time favorite Ozzy songs

Word.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2014, 05:46:40 PM: That Shot In The Dark video was a bit of a classic ;D
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Post by: TAC on November 24, 2014, 06:06:12 PM: A big step Down! ;D Seriously, I don't even think it's close.

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 24, 2014, 05:42:08 PM
I would probably pick the Ultimate Sin over BATM slightly just because the title track and Shot in the Dark are two of my all time favorite Ozzy songs

Those songs are great, but there's just not mch else going on there. I do like Whole Worlds Falling Down and I can lve with Killer Of Giants.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2014, 06:10:44 PM: Whole World's Falling Down was 6 years after The Ultimate Sin and was an Ozzmosis (Zakk) leftover if memory serves correct. Written with Shaw/Blades.

Centre Of The Universe doesn't ring any bells either :P ;D I didn't realise until recently that in some parts that song is known as "Forever."

The Ultimate Sin was my first real "metal" album and I love the whole thing...........so there :) Even I admit the image at the time was pretty awful , but I love the music. I can see how some viewed it as a glam metal sellout in a similar way to Y&T's Contagious but I don't seem to have the same problem with either album having started there. Having said that I rate TUS much higher than Contagious.

I remember reading a Zakk Wylde interview where he was explaining how he has trouble with the material from The Ultimate Sin as it's so much softer than Bark At The Moon. I don't get that either.
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Post by: TAC on November 24, 2014, 06:30:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 24, 2014, 06:10:44 PM
Whole World's Falling Down was 6 years after The Ultimate Sin and was an Ozzmosis (Zakk) leftover if memory serves correct. Written with Shaw/Blades.

Centre Of The Universe doesn't ring any bells either :P ;D I didn't realise until recently that in some parts that song is known as "Forever."

The Ultimate Sin was my first real "metal" album and I love the whole thing...........so there :) Even I admit the image at the time was pretty awful , but I love the music. I can see how some viewed it as a glam metal sellout in a similar way to Y&T's Contagious but I don't seem to have the same problem with either album having started there. Having said that I rate TUS much higher than Contagious.

I remember reading a Zakk Wylde interview where he was explaining how he has trouble with the material from The Ultimate Sin as it's so much softer than Bark At The Moon. I don't get that either.

That would be the Centre Of Eternity. :facepalm: I'm having a Kingshmegland moment.

For some reason, Whole World's Falling Down is on my iPod with TUS.

Anyway, I get that people can like one album over another, but in all seriousness, I just don't think TUS is in BATM's league.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 24, 2014, 06:31:36 PM: I'm pretty sure Ozzy has zero recollection of TUS era due to the huge amount of drugs. Shot in the Dark video is funny stuff
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Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2014, 06:35:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 24, 2014, 06:30:29 PM

Anyway, I get that people can like one album over another, but in all seriousness, I just don't think TUS is in BATM's league.

Fair enough - I think they're both awesome :metal
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Post by: WebRaider on November 24, 2014, 06:45:14 PM: Mine would have to be something like this...

1. Ozzy Osbourne - Bark At The Moon
1. Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil
3. Dio - Holy Diver
4. Metallica - Kill 'Em All
5. Def Leppard - Pyromania
6. Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind
7. Thin Lizzy - Thunder And Lightning
8. Queensryche - Queensryche (EP)
9. Dokken - Breaking The Chains
10: Quiet Riot - Metal Health
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Post by: TAC on November 24, 2014, 06:52:41 PM: That is a great list! Thunder And Lightning is incredible.
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Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 07:00:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 24, 2014, 06:52:41 PM
Thunder And Lightning is incredible.

Yeah, it really is.
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Post by: TAC on November 24, 2014, 07:10:15 PM: They would also record their set at Reading in 1983 and release that as a BBC show. I would take that live album every day of the week over Live And Dangerous. It's fantastic. That version of Still In Love With You is unreal.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 24, 2014, 10:15:18 PM: I wonder if Thin Lizzy would have continued on in that direction. What a fantastic album T&L is.

What a great band!
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Post by: Lowdz on November 25, 2014, 02:40:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 05:08:39 PM
I should go back to BATM then. I tried it so many times but just couldn't really connect with. TUS on the other hand, was a big step up.

Agree with this. BatM wasn't great - YUS was better. there's more Jake on it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2014, 04:04:32 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 25, 2014, 02:40:59 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 05:08:39 PM
I should go back to BATM then. I tried it so many times but just couldn't really connect with. TUS on the other hand, was a big step up.

Agree with this. BatM wasn't great - YUS was better. there's more Jake on it.

His solos are the best part of the record IMO, so much melody within the solos, great stuff.
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Post by: TAC on November 25, 2014, 05:33:56 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 24, 2014, 10:15:18 PM
I wonder if Thin Lizzy would have continued on in that direction. What a fantastic album T&L is.
I would've loved to have heard what would be next. But the band was spent at the time. Phil would be dead in less than 3 years.
and he knew it too. The last track on T&L, Heart Attack, is very prophetic where he sings "Mama I'm dying." WOW!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2014, 04:50:06 PM: Kelly Smith leaves Flotsam & Jetsam
https://bravewords.com/news/kelly-smith-leaves-flotsam-and-jetsam-to-focus-on-his-family

I LOVE and I mean LOVE classic Flotsam & Jetsam. Kelly Smith was a great drummer. Saw them many times standing about 6 feet away from his drums. :metal :metal
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Post by: bosk1 on November 26, 2014, 04:55:25 PM: Wow, I honestly had no idea they were active in recent years.
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Post by: TAC on November 26, 2014, 06:49:09 PM: They've kind of been releasing albums along the way, but in the last few years, original guitarist Michael Gilbert and original drummer Kelly Smith rejoined. The near classic lineup released The Cold last year. I was very disappointed in it. Tuned down a few steps for my liking.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 26, 2014, 10:19:08 PM: I've never really been into F&J - does the "classic" lineup include Newstead?
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Post by: TAC on November 27, 2014, 05:50:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 26, 2014, 10:19:08 PM
I've never really been into F&J - does the "classic" lineup include Newstead?
Newsted was only on their first album.
The rest of the band was:
Eric AK Knutson-vocals
Michael Gilbert-guitar
Ed Carlson=guitar
Kelly Smith-drums

Troy Gregory plays bass on their second and third albums (my two faves!).
Jason Ward would become their bassist for their fourth album and has been there ever since.

F&J would make six albums up through 1997.
Then they rotated in different guitarists/drummers for a few negligable albums.

But last year the AK/Gilbert/Carlson/Smith and Ward lineup recorded The Cold together, and I was severely bummed with it.

Flotsam & Jetsam will start showing up on the lists here in this thread shortly, at least for me.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2014, 07:41:19 AM: You never know - they might for me too (although it would be surprising). I'm listening to a lot of new music for each year to be sure, to be sure (https://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/stpatdancer.gif) (https://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/greenbeer.gif)
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Post by: TAC on November 27, 2014, 09:17:58 AM: Any Axenstar fans here? I've never heard of them, but I've heard some samples of their new album. It sounds great. Seems they've been around a while. I will be jumping in on this band when their album is released next week.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2014, 09:25:09 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 27, 2014, 09:17:58 AM
Any Axenstar fans here? I've never heard of them, but I've heard some samples of their new album. It sounds great. Seems they've been around a while. I will be jumping in on this band when their album is released next week.

I used to have one of their albums which I filed under "typical double kick power metal with an average vocalist" but I'll check out the newy if you're "jumping on 'em" :D
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Post by: TAC on November 27, 2014, 09:31:26 AM: I know. Lots of generic stuff out there. I put the first Dionysus album in the same file, though I heard some recent stuff by them which sounded pretty good.
I do love this type of music though, so I'm always on the lookout for a new band to check out.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 27, 2014, 01:23:23 PM: Went through a power metal stage last year and Axenstar were one of the bands i checked out. They were ok, nothing more than that and Brent summed them up pretty nicely.
So many average bands in the genre - they all sound great for a song or three but tend to be very same-y over an album.
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Post by: TAC on November 27, 2014, 04:21:22 PM: You guys are making it hard for me to spend my money! :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2014, 06:28:30 AM: Just made my 1984 List. Lots of great albums left out of the Top 10.

1984 was a great year for debut albums.
Armored Saint
WASP
Bon Jovi
Metal Church
Anthrax
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 29, 2014, 06:33:29 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 29, 2014, 06:28:30 AM
Just made my 1984 List. Lots of great albums left out of the Top 10.

Yeah......it's getting nuts , especially with the arrival of hair metal in a big way. I would say in the prior years most of the honourable mentions would've averaged a high 70's rating .......in 1984 it'll be more high 80's and I might even have some 90% rated albums not break into the top 10. Not sure yet.

I've been listening all week ............maybe another dozen albums to go and a few quick checks on some obscure ones to make sure I've got all my shit together.
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2014, 06:39:16 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 29, 2014, 06:33:29 AM
I would say in the prior years most of the honourable mentions would've averaged a high 70's rating .......in 1984 it'll be more high 80's and I might even have some 90% rated albums not break into the top 10. Not sure yet.

I don't know. We've had great batches of Honorable Mentions so far. The early to mid 80's was really a great time in hard rock music.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2014, 02:45:53 AM: Just uncovered another 20-30 albums I need to check out ...............that'll make close to 100 album scores added to my data for 1984 ::) Thank God 1985 is much weaker.

The Top 10 is pretty much settled but I'm trying to make sure I have all the obscure stuff covered for the honourable mentions. As per usual a few big names will miss the cut and upset you all , especially now that I have upped the cut-off score to 80% :P :angel: In mr.com terms that's a cutoff of 100% :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2014, 04:31:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 30, 2014, 02:45:53 AM
As per usual a few big names will miss the cut and upset you all , especially now that I have upped the cut-off score to 80% :P :angel: In mr.com terms that's a cutoff of 100% :)

:lol Be fair, it's more like 98%. You have to leave a little head room!
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2014, 11:12:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 30, 2014, 02:45:53 AM
Just uncovered another 20-30 albums I need to check out ...............that'll make close to 100 album scores added to my data for 1984 ::)
Would love to see that full list. I'm sure there's stuff that I never even bothered to check out.

A great fairly obscure band that realeased albums in 83/84 was Hawaii, featuring Marty Freidman.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 30, 2014, 02:05:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 30, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 30, 2014, 02:45:53 AM
Just uncovered another 20-30 albums I need to check out ...............that'll make close to 100 album scores added to my data for 1984 ::)
Would love to see that full list. I'm sure there's stuff that I never even bothered to check out.

A great fairly obscure band that realeased albums in 83/84 was Hawaii, featuring Marty Freidman.

I have that on vinyl. Have to say it didn't do anything for me at the time. Haven't heard it in 30 years or so! :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2014, 02:07:34 PM: I remember I bought Hawaii and Tsunami on the same day. Go figure. :lol
Rox too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2014, 12:33:57 AM: 1984 has some amazing albums.

Interested to see where Defenders makes the cut on your list and if Last in Line even makes it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 01, 2014, 12:43:52 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 01, 2014, 12:33:57 AM
1984 has some amazing albums.

Including 1984 itself. :biggrin:
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Post by: Mosh on December 01, 2014, 12:52:46 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 01, 2014, 12:33:57 AM
1984 has some amazing albums.

Interested to see where Defenders makes the cut on your list and if Last in Line even makes it.
1984 has some tough competition, but if any Dio album is going to make a top X albums list Last In Line is it. I'm not big on his solo career (at least compared to Rainbow and to a lesser extent Sabbath) but that album is fantastic. 80s metal at its best. I'd take it over Defenders even.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2014, 01:44:27 AM: Last in Line is one of my favorites but I know Brent isn't a mega fan, so just curious where it ends up in the list
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 01, 2014, 02:29:37 AM: Last in Line is one of my favourite Dio albums too, so either it's included, or the list is wrong. :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2014, 03:30:41 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 01, 2014, 02:29:37 AM
Last in Line is one of my favourite Dio albums too, so either it's included, or the list is wrong. :biggrin:

lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2014, 04:01:15 AM: Last In Line is the shit.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2014, 05:39:02 AM: OK.................I'll try and address some of the above issues.

- TAC's request for the full list............I can sorta do something there - see below
- Defenders and Last In Line..............both make it but not top 10......I'll explain the criteria in more detail but to even get an honourable mention in 1984 means I really,really like the album. 80% = mr.com 110% :D
- Blob believes all who disagree with him are wrong ...............can't do anything about that sorry ;D

At the risk of getting totally boring I'll explain a bit about how I'm doing this. It's all being done very quickly so the rating methods are pretty rough and ready but it gets the job done.

I have never been one for formally rating albums at all , but 12-18 months ago I thought I had better start. I looked at my collection (now >4000 albums) and realised I would never listen to them all before I cark it and that I couldn't remember how good half of them are. Rating the albums would help to sort out the wheat from the chaff and provide a good reference point not only for best tracks but the album ratings would sort out those that are worth listening to as whole albums. Those that come in at <70% (implied album rating of < 4 stars in iTunes) I don't bother to keep in my spreadsheet - they are deemed not worth an "album listen" but I have the song ratings to refer to.

I just use iTunes star ratings for the tracks. I'm thinking something alone these lines when I rate them:

1 star : shit
2 stars: barely listenable - nothing I wish to hear again
3 stars: decent song - good for occasional rotation
4 stars: quality song - good for regular rotation
5 stars: great song that really gets me in- a favourite.

At the end of the album I average them out , convert to a rating out of 100 and then have +/- 4 pts I can use to adjust for things like the whole album experience, production and if I felt some songs may have been more like 4 and a half than 4 etc........... The key point is that consistency plays a big part. Take an album like Defenders - the first 4 songs are about as good as any 4 on any metal album for me (The Sentinel may be my all time fave JP song) but IMO the rest of the album fades from there and so it ends up with a good but not great rating , even though it contains a few of my all time favourite songs. Same goes (even more so) for Holy Diver. I have rated The Last In Line higher than Holy Diver even though it has one LESS all time favourite song.........it makes up for that with almost no filler.

Onto to TAC's request..............I can't give you a totally comprehensive list because a number of the albums I have sampled a few songs and decided not to even bother rating them and haven't recorded those names (there's probably 20 of those already). Then there's albums that I have rated but have come in < 70% (Metal Church is one I have done today).......they are not in my spreadsheet either , as mentioned above.

What I can give you (bearing in mind that 80% is required to make the list) is those that have been rated and made the 70% cutoff for my spreadsheet:

Quiet Riot    Condition Critical
KISS    Animalize
Black'n'Blue   s/t
Armored Saint   March Of The Saint
The Rods   Let Them Eat Metal
Lee Aaron   Metal Queen
Ratt   Out Of The Cellar
Manowar   Hail To England
Mama's Boys   s/t
Y&T   In Rock We Trust
Giuffira   Giuffria
Dokken   Tooth and Nail
Fates Warning   Night On Brocken
Saxon   Crusader
Icon   Icon
Judas Priest   Defenders of the Faith
Twisted Sister   Stay Hungry
Queensryche   The Warning
Dio    The Last In Line
Yngwie Malmsteen   Rising Force
Autograph   Sign In Please
Scorpions   Love At First Sting
Whitesnake   Slide It In
Metallica   Ride The Lightning
Iron Maiden   Powerslave
Van Halen   1984
Europe   Wings of Tomorrow
Bon Jovi   Bon Jovi
Grim Reaper   See You In Hell
Sammy Hagar    VOA
Helix   Walkin The Razor's Edge
Keel   Lay Down The Law
Kick Axe   Vices
W.A.S.P:s/t

And here's some albums I still need to listen to and rate in coming days ( a couple are likely more AOR and won't make it) :

Krokus   The Blitz
Laaz Rockit   City's Gonna Burn
Legs Diamond   Out On Bail
Loudness   Disillusion
Madam X    We Reserve The Right
Gary Moore   We Want Moore
Zebra   No Tellin Lies
Waysted   Waysted EP
Tyran Pace   Eye To Eye
Triumph   Thunder Seven
Tokyo Blade   Night Of The Blade
TKO   In Your Face
TNT   Knights of the New Thunder
Stryper   The Yellow and Black attack
Stone Fury   Burns Like A Star
Sinner   Danger Zone
Savatage   The Dungeons Are Calling
Running Wild   Gates To Purgatory
Q5   Steel The Light
Pretty Maids   Red Hot and Heavy
Omen   Battle Cry
MSG   Rock Will Never Die
220 volt    Power Games
Blackfoot    Vertical Smiles
Bronz   Taken By Storm
Fastway   All Fired Up
HSAS   Through The Fire
Honeymoon Suite   Honeymoon Suite
Joshua   The Hand Is Quicker Than The Eye
Lizzy Borden    Love You To Pieces
Meat Loaf   bad Attitude
Ted Nugent   Penetrator
Rose Tattoo   Southern Stars
Samson   Don't Get Mad, Get Even
Santers   Guitar Alley
Slade   Keep Your Hands Off My Power Supply
Urgent   Cast The First Stone
Warlock   Burning The Witches
Vengeance   Vengeance
Widow   Gone Too Far
White Heart   Vital Signs
Fee Waybill    rRead My Lips
White Wolf   Standing Alone
Zero Nine   Headline
Virgin steele   Burn The Sun
Jag Panzer   Ample Destruction

There'll be a few more..............unfortunately I've been out most of today and fell behind. I am trying to be as comprehensive as possible. Most of these albums are not albums I grew up with and so I've come in later and listened to them only a little bit in many cases. So I feel like I need to give them a good listen rather than rate by memory. That's adding a lot of time to it that I really never budgeted for , but I'm a sucker for going overboard once I set myself a task.

To put it in context the 80% rating required to get an honourable mention means that an album must average 4 stars across the whole thing - not many albums are able to achieve that with me. So anything that gets there in 1984 really deserves it....and there's a heap of them. An amazing year where many that have missed the Top 10 would've made it in past years.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 01, 2014, 05:45:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2014, 05:39:02 AM
- Blob believes all who disagree with him are wrong ...............can't do anything about that sorry ;D

For once you're the odd one out on this one! But at least it's made the cut so far, so maybe not all hope is lost on you. :lol
Can't see any other obvious omissions for the genre. I await your top 10. :tup
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 01, 2014, 06:22:46 AM: The mere fact you have Vengeance and Slade in there demonstrates you've gone pretty deep. Keep Your Hands Off My Power Supply is a fantastic album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2014, 06:31:38 AM: Awesome list Brent. I understand why there is no Rush but where in the world is Spinal Tap and especially WASP
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2014, 06:34:37 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 01, 2014, 06:31:38 AM
Awesome list Brent. I understand why there is no Rush but where in the world is Spinal Tap and especially WASP

Spinal Tap were going to get a mention but I didn't bother rating it ;D W.A.S.P should be there........it's one of the few from this time period that I did grow up with and didn't need to listen in order to rate ;) Headless Children made my all time top 10 so you can be sure W.A.S.P. are not forgotten.

TAC............I do have the 1985 Hawaii album down for a listen btw.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2014, 12:22:52 PM: So many great albums this year - that Hawaii album is not one of them :biggrin:
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Post by: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM: Good working list so far. I could definitely do a full top-10 with honorable mentions from that list. Stryper is the only one I see on your "need to listen to" list that would definitely meet either my top 10 or honorable mention list. I also note that, unless I missed it, there was a Whitesnake album that year that DEFINITELY needs to be on the list as well.

Lastly, I have two albums I am going to include on my "no, it's not hard rock/metal, but it's so good I'm going to honorably mention it anyway" list:
-Prince - Purple Rain
-The Cars - Heartbeat City
Hard rock/metal? Nope. Do I care? Nope.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2014, 12:53:34 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 01, 2014, 06:22:46 AM
Keep Your Hands Off My Power Supply is a fantastic album.
Yeah it really is. Made the J Boy Top 50 if I recall. It's much stronger than the two singles bear. In fact, It's fairly heavy.

B, your list brings back so many memories. Much of it though, I never bothered to check out, but I had 60% of those albums. You listed Bronz- Taken By Storm. Wow, never thought I'd see that in print! I actually had that on cassette. I found it kind of lame. Would be right up Lowdz' alley! ;D Wolfking too! ;D ;D

Vertical Smiles was basically the demise of Blackfoot. Man did that thing suck!

You also mention the Waysted EP. I wore that thing out. That DOES make my Top 10 for 1984, though I wouldn't expect anyone else to like it.

Helix, Kick Axe, WOW! I also liked that Legs Diamond album a lot.

A favorite of mine that you didn't list was Jack Starr's Out Of The Darkness, featuring Rhett Forrester on vocals, along with the bassist/drummer from The Rods.

Oh, and no need to list Honeymoon Suite or Fee Waybill. :D

Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
I also note that, unless I missed it, there was a Whitesnake album that year that DEFINITELY needs to be on the list as well.

Worthy of listing, but not of ranking. I was very disappointed with Slide It In. Nothing is near as strong as Slow n Easy. Guilty Of Love is great though.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2014, 12:54:54 PM: You leave my Honeymoon Suite alone Tim. :lol
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Post by: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 01:00:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2014, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
I also note that, unless I missed it, there was a Whitesnake album that year that DEFINITELY needs to be on the list as well.

Worthy of listing, but not of ranking. I was very disappointed with Slide It In. Nothing is near as strong as Slow n Easy. Guilty Of Love is great though.

Really? That was my gateway Whitesnake album. I thought it was great.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2014, 01:18:08 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2014, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
I also note that, unless I missed it, there was a Whitesnake album that year that DEFINITELY needs to be on the list as well.

Worthy of listing, but not of ranking. I was very disappointed with Slide It In. Nothing is near as strong as Slow n Easy. Guilty Of Love is great though.

Really? That was my gateway Whitesnake album. I thought it was great.

The first Whitesnake album I bought was the double live Live In The Heart Of The City. About that time, Slow An Easy came out as a single. Such a great tune. I bought Slide It In, and honestly didn't care for it, save for a couple of tunes.

Quote from: kingshmegland on December 01, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
You leave my Honeymoon Suite alone Tim. :lol

They belong in another thread with these:
Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
-Prince - Purple Rain
-The Cars - Heartbeat City
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Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2014, 01:48:25 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2014, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
I also note that, unless I missed it, there was a Whitesnake album that year that DEFINITELY needs to be on the list as well.

Worthy of listing, but not of ranking. I was very disappointed with Slide It In. Nothing is near as strong as Slow n Easy. Guilty Of Love is great though.

Really? That was my gateway Whitesnake album. I thought it was great.

I'm with you there. Really good album.
I could do a top 50 just from this year.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2014, 01:57:27 PM: Forgot about Love Ain't No Stranger. Definitely a great tune.

Listening to it now. Standing In The Shadows is a great tune too.

OK, maybe not as bad as I remember. But I definitely remember not caring for it very much back in the day.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2014, 01:59:08 PM: Just listening to an awesome album from this year - Vow Wow's Beat Of Metal Motion. :metal
AAdd that to the list Brent :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2014, 02:11:27 PM: As is now apparent I did a quick cut/paste from the most recent part of my spreadsheet and there's a couple of errors......can always rely on you mob to pull me up though :P :D

Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2014, 12:53:34 PM

Oh, and no need to list Honeymoon Suite or Fee Waybill. :D

Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
I also note that, unless I missed it, there was a Whitesnake album that year that DEFINITELY needs to be on the list as well.

Worthy of listing, but not of ranking. I was very disappointed with Slide It In. Nothing is near as strong as Slow n Easy. Guilty Of Love is great though.

As far as the Honeymoon Suite and Fee Waybill go..........

Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2014, 05:39:02 AM

And here's some albums I still need to listen to and rate in coming days ( a couple are likely more AOR and won't make it) :

and the Whitesnake is in the same basket as the WASP - I am familiar enough with it that I didn't even bother having it in the spreadsheet. It'll be in there ..................the Sykes version.

Quote from: Lowdz on December 01, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
Just listening to an awesome album from this year - Vow Wow's Beat Of Metal Motion. :metal
AAdd that to the list Brent :biggrin:

No ;D
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Post by: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 02:20:08 PM: I'm just the opposite. Back then, it was a staple. Now...eh.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2014, 02:23:18 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 02:20:08 PM
I'm just the opposite. Back then, it was a staple. Now...eh.
Are you talking about Slide It In?

Speaking of albums that did not age well..Stone Fury. Liked it a lot back in the day. Now, not so much.
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Post by: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 02:26:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2014, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 02:20:08 PM
I'm just the opposite. Back then, it was a staple. Now...eh.
Are you talking about Slide It In?

Yeah, sorry. I was responding to you a few posts back and got interrupted. When I typed the response, yours was the last post, so no need to quote. Buy the time I hit the "post" button, the other posts were there.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2014, 02:32:58 PM: I think even as a kid, song titles like Slide It In and Spit It Out were offputting. The album doesn't suck. I just remember being disappointed with it.
At the time, they just seemed caught between the bluesy classic rock they were know for, and what was going on at the time.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2014, 02:35:23 PM: I'll check out the Jack Starr too TAC..........not a big fan of the RF Riot albums relatively speaking but that wasn't because of his voice - just didn't think the songs were up there with Riot's best.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2014, 02:38:07 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2014, 02:35:23 PM
I'll check out the Jack Starr too TAC..........not a big fan of the RF Riot albums relatively speaking but that wasn't because of his voice - just didn't think the songs were up there with Riot's best.

No they are definitely not. For some reason after Guy left, the songs really suffered. Born In America is pretty good though. I wish it had Restless Breed's production.

The Jack Starr album has some balls n chunk guitar playing. I loved it. Again, it was special to me. There's tons of more deservedly popular albums out that year though.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2014, 04:58:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2014, 01:18:08 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2014, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
I also note that, unless I missed it, there was a Whitesnake album that year that DEFINITELY needs to be on the list as well.

Worthy of listing, but not of ranking. I was very disappointed with Slide It In. Nothing is near as strong as Slow n Easy. Guilty Of Love is great though.

Really? That was my gateway Whitesnake album. I thought it was great.

The first Whitesnake album I bought was the double live Live In The Heart Of The City. About that time, Slow An Easy came out as a single. Such a great tune. I bought Slide It In, and honestly didn't care for it, save for a couple of tunes.

Quote from: kingshmegland on December 01, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
You leave my Honeymoon Suite alone Tim. :lol

They belong in another thread with these:
Quote from: bosk1 on December 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
-Prince - Purple Rain
-The Cars - Heartbeat City

No way Jose! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2014, 04:29:48 AM: New Empires of Eden (Stu Marshall) song with Ralf Scheepers. Pretty fucking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo58mGlrCfM
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 02, 2014, 05:16:06 AM: Whitesnake's Slide It In isn't a bad album, but one I don't really care for. For me it's the transition between the bluesier stuff and the heavy songs but it doesn't really deliver in each category.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 06:11:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 02, 2014, 04:29:48 AM
New Empires of Eden (Stu Marshall) song with Ralf Scheepers. Pretty fucking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo58mGlrCfM

Not doing much for me ..........by the numbers power metal to my ears. But then I wasn't as into Primal Fear's latest as everyone else :angel:
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Post by: Bolsters on December 02, 2014, 07:08:19 AM: I couldn't even make it all the way through the song. By-the-numbers is right.
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Post by: bosk1 on December 02, 2014, 08:50:32 AM: Really strong year by my tastes. Here is what my top 10 would probably look like:

1. Y&T - In Rock We Trust: Bummer it took the band this long to get a real "hit" and any sort of widespread acclaim. It is hard for me to pick songs from this album that rise to the level of some of their real classics like Forever, Mean Streak, or Rescue Me, but this is easily their most consistent album to date. Not a bad track on this entire album.
2. Scorpions - Love At First Sting: Blackout and LAFS were where the band really hit full stride in terms of perfectly blending that hard rock edge with commercial accessibility. Rock You Like A Hurricane's guitar solo is one that I still consider top 10 all time.
3. Queensryche - The Warning: I was not into Queensryche at the time. It was not until late in the Mindcrime era that I discovered them. Even then, it took me a long time to get into The Warning. But there is undoubtedly a lot of quality music on this album.
4. Iron Maiden - Power Slave: I was not into Maiden at the time, but have recently discovered them. I actually find this album weak as a whole, due to the filler in the middle. But on the strength of the first two songs and the last two alone, it deserves high marks.
5. Whitesnake - Slide It In: I wouldn't rank it nearly so high if not for the nostalgia and how much I played it back in the day. Yeah, the songs were juvenile, but I just loved their sound. And seeing them on this tour sandwiched between Kick Axe and Quiet Riot with Sykes on guitar cemented it.
6. Kick Axe - Vices: A little known gem that I played the heck out of.
7. Quiet Riot - Condition Critical: This was a surprisingly fun album. The songs translated well to a live setting, which I think took it up a few notches for me.
8. Dio - Last In Line: Last In Line and We Rock make this album. I didn't really care for the rest. ...other than Egypt. Was that on the original release? I don't remember it from that era and remember being really surprised when I heard it MANY years later. Was it an extra track on a re-release or something, or did I just somehow overlook it at the time? Not sure.
9. Ratt - Out of the Cellar: A few good songs, and some filler. But the good songs were really good.
10. Bon Jovi - s/t: Yeah, I liked it. Shut up.

Just missed the cut (in no particular order):
-Stryper: Some good songs, but I prefer live versions from much later years. The songwriting and playing chops were there. But the vocals dragged some of their early songs down just a bit by making the songs overall sound softer. Michael Sweet has even recently acknowledged that he much prefers his current voice to how he used his voice back then because he still has most of his range, but has been able to add more grit and edge, whereas his voice sounded more soft and feminine back then. I agree.
-Van Halen: Yeah, 1984 was such a classic, iconic album. But I am just SO tired of Van Halen and have been for years. Plus, I think the Sammy era saw a marked jump up in quality overall.
-Dokken: These guys always seemed to consistently crank out a few really good songs every album. This one is no exception.
-Warlock: I only just got into the band when Triumph and Agony was released, so this one wasn't even on my radar at the time. But it has some gems.
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Post by: TAC on December 02, 2014, 09:55:26 AM: Nothing wrong with Bon Jovi being listed. It's a solid debut. They were great live on that tour. Impressed me do much I bought the tape the next day.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 10:12:42 AM: Yikes...............you're right about Vertical Smiles TAC. Just need to make sure it's not a Chris Isaak album in disguise. Bronz was pissweak too...much more so than I remember - filed away under pompy AOR fluff. :)
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Post by: Lowdz on December 02, 2014, 12:42:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 10:12:42 AM
Yikes...............you're right about Vertical Smiles TAC. Just need to make sure it's not a Chris Isaak album in disguise. Bronz was pissweak too...much more so than I remember - filed away under pompy AOR fluff. :)

Never heard Bronz back in the day. Checking them out I can see why. Not up to much.

Bosk1 - my top 10 will be very different to yours. I see 4-5 of them having a chance to make it. And you don't seem that impressed with the ones you've chosen :lol

Nothing wrong with that Bon Jovi, it was a good start. They could only dream of making an album as good and as full of energy these days (pun intended :biggrin:)
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Post by: bosk1 on December 02, 2014, 01:10:51 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 02, 2014, 12:42:14 PM
Bosk1 - my top 10 will be very different to yours. I see 4-5 of them having a chance to make it. And you don't seem that impressed with the ones you've chosen :lol

It's not that. It's just that many of them have not aged well because my tastes have changed a lot in the last 30 years. If I ranked them in terms of "most likely to get repeat spins within any reasonable span of time right now," my list would like something like:

1. Maiden
...
2. Queensryche
3. Y&T
...
4. Stryper
5. Scorpions
6. Kick Axe (if I still had a copy)
...
eh...the rest might get a spin a year.

Of the top 10, I loved all of them back in the day, save the two that I discovered and learned to love much later (Queensryche and Maiden). But they are what they are, and immature songs full lyrics about partying and sexual innuendo aren't going to be high up on my current play list.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 02, 2014, 01:37:56 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on December 02, 2014, 01:10:51 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 02, 2014, 12:42:14 PM
Bosk1 - my top 10 will be very different to yours. I see 4-5 of them having a chance to make it. And you don't seem that impressed with the ones you've chosen :lol

It's not that. It's just that many of them have not aged well because my tastes have changed a lot in the last 30 years. If I ranked them in terms of "most likely to get repeat spins within any reasonable span of time right now," my list would like something like:

1. Maiden
...
2. Queensryche
3. Y&T
...
4. Stryper
5. Scorpions
6. Kick Axe (if I still had a copy)
...
eh...the rest might get a spin a year.

Of the top 10, I loved all of them back in the day, save the two that I discovered and learned to love much later (Queensryche and Maiden). But they are what they are, and immature songs full lyrics about partying and sexual innuendo aren't going to be high up on my current play list.

I understand what you're saying and those lyrics are a lifetime away from my experience these days but I haven't lost the love of those albums at all. In fact it's much harder for new music to make that much of an impact. They were great days and those songs have history that the new ones can't hope to replicate.
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Post by: TAC on December 02, 2014, 02:25:33 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 02, 2014, 01:37:56 PM

I understand what you're saying and those lyrics are a lifetime away from my experience these days but I haven't lost the love of those albums at all. In fact it's much harder for new music to make that much of an impact. They were great days and those songs have history that the new ones can't hope to replicate.

Amen, brother!

Another great story from 1984 was the Deep Purple Reunion. I honestly never thought Perfect Strangers was that great, but them getting back together was monumental. Saw them in March '85 and was out of mind happy!

Did anyone else have this gem from 1984?. Paul DiAnno goes AOR! Even came with wardrobe endorsements!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/83/Di%27Anno_1984.jpg/220px-Di%27Anno_1984.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 03:53:32 PM: Thanks for your patience guys ...........almost there. I'm trying to make this as authentic as possible and so making you wait a year between posts only seems right.

I've never been a huge Purple fan but as you'll see I surprised myself with how much I liked Perfect Strangers this time around. I tend to like the favourites from my childhood just as much now , but with some other albums my tastes have changed quite a bit.

I've never seen that Dianno album - looks "interesting"
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Post by: TAC on December 02, 2014, 04:03:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 03:53:32 PM
I've never seen that Dianno album - looks "interesting"

It's Paul Dianno as you've never heard him before. And never since! :lol

Anyway, take your time Brent. Since Bosk posted his list, here's mine. I wittled the HMs to 5.

1. Queensryche- Warning
2. Dio- The Last In Line
3. Saxon- Crusader
4. Iron Maiden-Powerslave
5. Yngwie Malmsteen- Rising Force
6. Waysted-EP
7. Metallica- Ride The Lightning
8. Jack Star- Out Of The Darkness
9. Armored Saint-March Of The Saint
10.Scorpions- Love At First Sting

Honorable Mentions:
Judas Priest- Defenders Of The Faith
Kiss- Animalize
Van Halen- 1984
Gary Moore- We Want Moore
Twisted Sister- Stay Hungry

Quote from: bosk1 on December 02, 2014, 08:50:32 AM
1. Y&T - In Rock We Trust: It is hard for me to pick songs from this album that rise to the level of some of their real classics like Forever, Mean Streak, or Rescue Me,
Oh, I would definitely put Keep On Runnin' up with those classics.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 04:06:40 PM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tates-operation-mindcrime-signs-with-frontiers-music-srl/

Tate's band have been signed to Frontiers (okay......) and given "creative freedom" :omg:
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Post by: TAC on December 02, 2014, 04:11:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tates-operation-mindcrime-signs-with-frontiers-music-srl/

Tate's band have been signed to Frontiers (okay......) and given "creative freedom" :omg:

Umm..we're trying to have a serious conversation in this thread! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 04:13:38 PM: Who's "we"? ;D I thought it fit in well with your Dianno ;D
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Post by: bosk1 on December 02, 2014, 04:15:18 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tates-operation-mindcrime-signs-with-frontiers-music-srl/

Tate's band have been signed to Frontiers (okay......) and given "creative freedom" :omg:

Well, it's Geoff Tate, and it's being marketed as a trilogy. Of course some label was going to pick it up. My prediction: It will be awful, but the first album will sell modestly well just because of the curiosity factor, the second will tank, and the third will not be noticed by anyone but the diehard Tate fans.
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Post by: bosk1 on December 02, 2014, 04:16:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 02, 2014, 04:03:14 PM
7. Metallica- Ride The Lightning

Crap! How did I forget this? Okay, put this at #2 and slide everything else down a spot.
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Post by: TAC on December 02, 2014, 04:18:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 04:13:38 PM
Who's "we"? ;D I thought it fit in well with your Dianno ;D

I'd still take Paul DiAnno in Parachute Pants. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 04:20:42 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on December 02, 2014, 04:15:18 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tates-operation-mindcrime-signs-with-frontiers-music-srl/

Tate's band have been signed to Frontiers (okay......) and given "creative freedom" :omg:

Well, it's Geoff Tate, and it's being marketed as a trilogy. Of course some label was going to pick it up.

yes..............but Frontiers don't normally operate like that ("creative freedom") , especially with someone as volatile as Tate. They're normally very insistent that their artists focus on/return to a style that fits their demographic. Perhaps Tate is bullshitting - now there'd be a surprise.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 02, 2014, 04:58:42 PM: I've never heard about that Dianno either. Is it decent at least?
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Post by: TAC on December 02, 2014, 05:22:53 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 02, 2014, 04:58:42 PM
I've never heard about that Dianno either. Is it decent at least?
NOT. AT. All. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jH_3RIZGOk

:lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 02, 2014, 05:25:25 PM: I don't .......know...........what.......to....think..........
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 02, 2014, 06:06:51 PM: Yeesh
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Post by: TAC on December 02, 2014, 06:07:32 PM: Actually I did like this track:
Tales Of The Unexpected
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahiq7OhR3GM

Love the comment below the clip:
"This shit sucked then and it still sucks now...what the fuck was he thinking?"
:metal

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 02, 2014, 06:06:51 PM
Yeesh

:lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2014, 07:34:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tates-operation-mindcrime-signs-with-frontiers-music-srl/

Tate's band have been signed to Frontiers (okay......) and given "creative freedom" :omg:

Good lord. I hope Tolkki isn't involved. That would surely bring armageddon.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2014, 09:07:07 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 02, 2014, 07:34:53 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 02, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tates-operation-mindcrime-signs-with-frontiers-music-srl/

Tate's band have been signed to Frontiers (okay......) and given "creative freedom" :omg:

Good lord. I hope Tolkki isn't involved. That would surely bring armageddon.

Don't two negatives make a positive though? Tate + Tolkki could be a masterpiece!!

:footloose:
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 02, 2014, 11:35:59 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 02, 2014, 09:07:07 PM

Don't two negatives make a positive though? Tate + Tolkki could be a masterpiece!!

:footloose:

That's what I was thinking :hat
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2014, 04:45:00 AM: (https://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/will-smith-the-fuck.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2014, 04:55:44 AM: Can't remember which thread we've been posting Sweet/Lynch stuff but here's a new video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmmolV-B7xE

This album is sounding wonderful.
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Post by: Bolsters on December 03, 2014, 05:00:50 AM: Not bad. I'll check that out when it's available.
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2014, 05:10:55 AM: It's actually one of my most anticipated upcoming releases.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 08:06:25 AM: Mark your diary Paul - new UDO due January 23rd.

(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full_node/public/field/image/udo-decadent.jpg?itok=jiuBC64J)

One more album to listen to for 1984 and then done. Phew!! And then a few very badly needed days off from the 80's before I think about 1985.
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Post by: bosk1 on December 03, 2014, 09:28:10 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 03, 2014, 04:55:44 AM
Can't remember which thread we've been posting Sweet/Lynch stuff but here's a new video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmmolV-B7xE

This album is sounding wonderful.

There is a thread for it, but that's okay.

Yeah, I am liking the sound of this so far. I am guessing George is doing all the guitars on the album, but I am holding out hope that there is some blistering double guitar stuff between him and Michael somewhere on the album.
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2014, 09:53:33 AM: Wow. I gotta say, the last two songs released are really good. I may actually go for this.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 10:15:59 AM: Get there eventually I did (https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sw025.gif)

As has been mentioned 1984 was an extremely strong year and also a year where hair metal began to really make its presence felt - as it will in my lists from here. Briefly a few events for the year:

- Van Halen release their last album with DLR
- Rick Allen loses his arm in a car accident
- Spinal Tap release their "classic" debut and of course album cover of the year right there

(https://muslib.ru/photos/albumData/f_3/26761/170105.jpg)

- Vince Neil proves what a tool he is by getting blind drunk, getting in the driver's seat and killing Razzle (Hanoi Rocks drummer) in the resultant prang

- Deep Purple re-form for Perfect Strangers

Helix almost got No 1 in my top 10 just for this video alone , which is easily music vid of the year :zydar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3TGZvg8_FI

The list is below - one thing that's pretty clear to me is that all the listening that I've done has resulted in a very different (and much,much larger) list than if I'd just done it from memory. And once again a couple of bands that I was never much of a fan of have made it - not Iron Maiden in this one though.

TOP 10 ALBUMS OF 1984 - I've tried to avoid ties where I can but it was too hard here......

1. Van Halen : 1984(TIE)
1. Yngwie Malmsteen : Rising Force(TIE)
3. W.A.S.P.:s/t
4. Dokken : Tooth And Nail
5: Deep Purple: Perfect Strangers
6. Ratt: Out Of The Cellar
7 Great White: s/t
8. Santers: Guitar Alley
9. Whitesnake: Slide It In (US version)
10 Scorpions: Love At First Sting

I haven't made a habit of discussing specific rankings but here it might help to provide some context as to the strength of the year (IMO). I don't consider myself to be an easy marker and I had the lowest ranked album in the Top 10 at 89%.

Right below them at 88% in the "bee's dick list" (TM) (and on any given day I may have rated these 89%.......I'd be more than happy to see them in the Top 10) we have the following:

Bon Jovi: s/t
Europe: Wings Of TOmorrow
Y&T: In Rock We Trust
Triumph: Thunder Seven
Helix: Walkin The Razor's Edge

If I had kept the HM cutoff at 75% it would've resulted in 40+ ..............as it is there's still plenty. All of these rated 80%+ and are very deserving of a mention

Black'n'Blue   s/t
Armored Saint   March Of The Saint
The Rods   Let Them Eat Metal
Lee Aaron   Metal Queen
Manowar   Hail To England
Icon   Icon
Judas Priest   Defenders of the Faith
Twisted Sister   Stay Hungry
Queensryche   The Warning
Dio    The Last In Line
Autograph   Sign In Please
Metallica   Ride The Lightning
Grim Reaper   See You In Hell
Sammy Hagar    VOA
Keel   Lay Down The Law
Krokus   The Blitz
Gary Moore   We Want Moore
Waysted   Waysted EP
TKO   In Your Face
Stone Fury   Burns Like A Star
Q5   Steel The Light
Pretty Maids   Red Hot and Heavy
Samson   Don't Get Mad, Get Even


Fire away..........
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2014, 10:34:19 AM: Alrighty then.

Wow, you have WASP rated pretty high. I actually listened to it last night.
I remember a friend of mine gave me a 90 minut tape with March Of The Saint on one side, and WASP on the other. Thought both had really unique singers and to me, they'll always be sister albums. But a few years later I would become a huge Armored Saint fan, so while I probably listened to WASP more in 1984, AS ultimately won out for me.

I was definitely into Helix back then. Not a great band, but they had some pretty good music. Sweet spot kind of stuff. I was with them for their first three albums. One of my best friends actually corresponded with the bass player I think, receiving a hand written note.

Glad you listed Rising Force. It's one of two albums you have that is also on my list. The "coming out" of Yngwie was a huge thing. I had been following him through Steeler and Alcatrazz, but here is was doing HIS music. I was amazed with it. Far Beyond The Sun might be my all time favorite instrumental ever.

Ironically, I was not a fan of Powerslave when it came out. The single, 2 Minutes used an old recycled main riff and I thought it was metal by numbers. I thought Rime was long just for the sake of being long. They were so into promoting that they wrote a long song. Whoopee. I thought everything about it was cliched and I was really dissapointed with it. Had it not been for Accept opening the following year, I might've missed the World Slavery tour. :omg:

I could go on and on..
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Post by: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 10:52:13 AM: With the Maiden riff are you referring to one of theirs or this one..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2HDpHBR_ag
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2014, 11:00:53 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 10:52:13 AM
With the Maiden riff are you referring to one of theirs or this one..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2HDpHBR_ag

Bingo!!

And this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JruuMkV0gM

and this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzC0bGCdxis

and this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjCBV6o_DSE

and this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOcRut2UM9g

and of course leave it to these guys to resurrect it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mtJEwSYlRM
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 03, 2014, 11:02:10 AM: I would put Powerslave at the top or maybe second after 1984.
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2014, 11:13:07 AM: 1984 is really strong. Once you get past the crap that is Jump, Panama, and I'll Wait, you have 5 damn good and heavy songs. I guess Panama is ok but it's way overplayed for me. Honestly I was never really crazy about it.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 11:20:21 AM: I stumbled onto a review of 1984 the other day that listed Girl Gone Bad and House Of Pain as "filler". No way man .........I really don't dislike anything on it but those two tracks are classics in my book.

Jump gets away with it for me because of the solo section............the guitars and the keys with the pick slides going on behind , which adds that classic VH touch. I used to proudly tell everyone (as a young kid) that the same guy - my idol- was playing the key AND guitar solos ::) Same with I'll Wait.............killer solo with all the weird little EVH touches I love.

If there's one track I'm a bit sick of I think it'd be Panama..........probably just due to over exposure to it.
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2014, 11:27:41 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 11:20:21 AM
I stumbled onto a review of 1984 the other day that listed Girl Gone Bad and House Of Pain as "filler". No way man .........
House Of Pain is AWESOME!!!

That same reviewer :lol would probably try and tell you that The Full Bug was filler on Diver Down!
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2014, 11:39:00 AM: Compared to Fair Warning 1984 is not as good. It's an average album for VH.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2014, 01:07:02 PM: 84 has a lot of classics.

Priest, Maiden, Dio, WASP, Armored Saint, Spinal Tap, QR would lead the pack for me.

We've talked about Icon before. Their debut is straight up 80s metal at its best.

I had heard a cover of Q5 from a band called Powergod; that's a cool song, never heard the full album though.
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2014, 01:11:48 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on December 03, 2014, 11:39:00 AM
Compared to Fair Warning 1984 is not as good. It's an average album for VH.

I remember sleeping at my grandmother's house New Year's Eve because at midnight on 1/1/84, MTV was world premiering the new Van Halen video. (She lived in the city and had cable/we lived in the boonies and did not).
Then I watched the Jump video and was disgusted! :lol

Fair Warning
Van Halen
Women And Children First
1984
Van Halen II
Diver Down
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2014, 01:17:28 PM: Damn. Almost the same for me. Just flip 1984 with VHII and it's exact.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 03, 2014, 02:07:46 PM: VH ranking, here goes:

Fair Warning
1984/Van Halen
.
.
.
Women and Children First
Van Halen II
Diver Down

And yes, Girls gone bad is kinda filler, at least for me.
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2014, 02:20:14 PM: No, I did NOT take this picture. Got it off Google Images. But I did see this tour. Autograph opened and were practically booed off the stage.
(https://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/wingnutLS2/VanHalen1984Stage2.jpg)

:metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on December 03, 2014, 04:34:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 03, 2014, 11:13:07 AM
1984 is really strong. Once you get past the crap that is Jump, Panama, and I'll Wait, you have 5 damn good and heavy songs. I guess Panama is ok but it's way overplayed for me. Honestly I was never really crazy about it.

They are the ones I like best. It's a good album but again short and some filler (1984, Drop Dead Legs - ok I guess, and the last 2)

Can't argue with the list Brent, there's only 3 albums in the whole post I don't rate - not a big Triumph fan - never heard them back in the day and only gave them ago recently. I like what I've heard but not heard this album.

I'd do some reordering and ManOwaR's Sign Of The Hammer was also released this year wasn't it? At least as good as HTE.
There's several Lowdz top 50 albums this year - Survivor's Vital Signs probably just makes the definition. Q5 is a classic 80s metal album, Last In Line, Gary Moore's We Want Moore.

Several albums were very close. Perfect Strangers (I thought this one was in my top 50... should have been), Wings Of Tomorrow, The Queensryche and Priest albums, WASP, Y&T and I do like that Vow Wow album I mentioned earlier, and the TKO.

A great year.
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2014, 05:12:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 03, 2014, 04:34:14 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 03, 2014, 11:13:07 AM
1984 is really strong. Once you get past the crap that is Jump, Panama, and I'll Wait, you have 5 damn good and heavy songs. I guess Panama is ok but it's way overplayed for me. Honestly I was never really crazy about it.

They are the ones I like best.
Of course they are! ;D
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2014, 07:25:25 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on December 03, 2014, 09:28:10 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 03, 2014, 04:55:44 AM
Can't remember which thread we've been posting Sweet/Lynch stuff but here's a new video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmmolV-B7xE

This album is sounding wonderful.

There is a thread for it, but that's okay.

Yeah, I am liking the sound of this so far. I am guessing George is doing all the guitars on the album, but I am holding out hope that there is some blistering double guitar stuff between him and Michael somewhere on the album.

Yeah I totally forgot there was a thead. I'm hoping for some duel stuff too. What I've heard so far from Michael Sweet on the guitar has been fantastic.

1984 for me has Maiden, WASP, Dio, Dokken, Priest, Malmsteen, Mercyful Fate, Gary Moore, Queensryche, Rush, Savatage etc. Awesome year.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 03, 2014, 08:38:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 03, 2014, 11:13:07 AM
1984 is really strong. Once you get past the crap that is Jump, Panama, and I'll Wait, you have 5 damn good and heavy songs. I guess Panama is ok but it's way overplayed for me. Honestly I was never really crazy about it.

Jump and Panama are still the best of the album foo.
House of Pain is filler. Can't stand that crap. That and Top Jimmy are the only duds on the album.

Last in Line and Ride the Lightning should have made top 10, and I'm not even that big on RTL.

Also overall UK Slide It In > US Slide It In, although the US version has a far superior sounding mix. But it's missing a lot of the vocal harmonies, the original basslines were better, and the extra woozling sounds silly some of the time.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 09:16:33 PM: I see Leverage have just released a Greatest Hits.............seriously? :lol
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Post by: Mosh on December 03, 2014, 11:23:29 PM: 1984 is an amazing album. Yes it's drenched in keyboards, but the songwriting is really great and whenever Eddie busts out his guitar he delivers big time. Seriously, some of his best guitar work is on this album. House of Pain is the only song I don't like, but everything else is great. I haven't gotten tired of Jump or Panama and I really love Drop Dead Legs and I'll Wait.

I'd probably rank 'em like this:
1: Fair Warning
2: 1984
3: Van Halen
4: Diver Down (controversial pick?)
5: Van Halen II
6: Women and Children First

All 6 are classic though, legendary album run.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 12:47:23 AM: All are classics and you can't go wrong with any of the 6. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone favor Diver Down over VH2.
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2014, 04:23:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 09:16:33 PM
I see Leverage have just released a Greatest Hits.............seriously? :lol

What the fuck, they have three albums and no hits!? :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2014, 05:25:28 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 12:47:23 AM
But I don't think I've ever seen anyone favor Diver Down over VH2.
Or anything for that matter. ;D

I see a lot of you guys list Ratt-Out OF The Cellar. I bought it as well. There was a lot of buzz around them at the time. And Round And Round was such a great song, but I realized very quickly that getting through a whole album with Stephen Pearcy "singing" was going to be a challenge. He sucks! I remember having a Circus magazine in high school, and this girl looks at a pic of him and goes, "He's so fine". I'm thinking are we looking at the same person??

Brent, I know you're going to take a brief break from the 80's, but looking ahead to 1985, yes, it was considerably weaker. Making a Top 10 was easy, and honestly, It was tough to scrape up some Hnorable Mentions.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 04, 2014, 01:07:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 09:16:33 PM
I see Leverage have just released a Greatest Hits.............seriously? :lol

I love the band but that will be one short album... :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on December 04, 2014, 01:09:50 PM: Quote from: Mosh on December 03, 2014, 11:23:29 PM
1984 is an amazing album. Yes it's drenched in keyboards, but the songwriting is really great and whenever Eddie busts out his guitar he delivers big time. Seriously, some of his best guitar work is on this album. House of Pain is the only song I don't like, but everything else is great. I haven't gotten tired of Jump or Panama and I really love Drop Dead Legs and I'll Wait.

I'd probably rank 'em like this:
1: Fair Warning
2: 1984
3: Van Halen
4: Diver Down (controversial pick?)
5: Van Halen II
6: Women and Children First

All 6 are classic though, legendary album run.

I think I agree completely with this ranking.
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2014, 04:11:28 PM: I have never in my life heard of Leverage.
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Post by: Mosh on December 04, 2014, 04:12:11 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 12:47:23 AM
All are classics and you can't go wrong with any of the 6. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone favor Diver Down over VH2.
I'll admit, this part of the ranking is largely sentimental. I didn't listen to those two bottom albums until long after getting into Van Halen. So I didn't grow up with those records like I did the others. So Diver Down has some more value to me because of that. And honestly there's quite a few songs on II I could never get into.

That said, I still really love Diver Down whenever I put it on. It's pretty brief and there are lots of covers but I don't mind. I quite enjoy the covers and I think the original songs (particularly Secrets, Hang Em High, Little Guitars) are up there with VH's best.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2014, 04:49:13 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 04, 2014, 04:11:28 PM
I have never in my life heard of Leverage.
Where you been man? Under a rock?

They were Top 10 in the Bolivian power/melodic metal charts for three straight weeks.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 04:52:46 PM: I've never heard of Leverage either. They don't sound like anything special lol
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Post by: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 10:54:59 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 04:52:46 PM
I've never heard of Leverage either. They don't sound like anything special lol

The first album, Tides, is excellent. One of the top 10 best melodic hard rock albums of this millenium for me. That album was their greatest hits :biggrin:
Worth a try jj.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 10:56:19 AM: Quote from: Mosh on December 04, 2014, 04:12:11 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 12:47:23 AM
All are classics and you can't go wrong with any of the 6. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone favor Diver Down over VH2.
I'll admit, this part of the ranking is largely sentimental. I didn't listen to those two bottom albums until long after getting into Van Halen. So I didn't grow up with those records like I did the others. So Diver Down has some more value to me because of that. And honestly there's quite a few songs on II I could never get into.

That said, I still really love Diver Down whenever I put it on. It's pretty brief and there are lots of covers but I don't mind. I quite enjoy the covers and I think the original songs (particularly Secrets, Hang Em High, Little Guitars) are up there with VH's best.

I love Big Bad Bill and Happy trails best. And I'm not joking :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 05, 2014, 11:16:14 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 04:52:46 PM
I've never heard of Leverage either. They don't sound like anything special lol

The first album, Tides, is excellent. One of the top 10 best melodic hard rock albums of this millenium for me. That album was their greatest hits :biggrin:
Worth a try jj.

I suspect it was you that gave me a track in my last Roulette then? Very good tune - Dreamworld.
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2014, 12:56:41 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
Quote from: Mosh on December 04, 2014, 04:12:11 PM
That said, I still really love Diver Down whenever I put it on. It's pretty brief and there are lots of covers but I don't mind. I quite enjoy the covers and I think the original songs (particularly Secrets, Hang Em High, Little Guitars) are up there with VH's best.

I love Big Bad Bill and Happy trails best. And I'm not joking :biggrin:
Why the hell does that not surprise me?
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Post by: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 02:15:41 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 05, 2014, 11:16:14 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 04:52:46 PM
I've never heard of Leverage either. They don't sound like anything special lol

The first album, Tides, is excellent. One of the top 10 best melodic hard rock albums of this millenium for me. That album was their greatest hits :biggrin:
Worth a try jj.

Indeed it was. took me a good while to decide which track to use, such is the quality of the album.

I suspect it was you that gave me a track in my last Roulette then? Very good tune - Dreamworld.
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Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2014, 03:50:32 PM: The second Leverage album was pretty good, but the last one IMO was ordinary.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 05, 2014, 04:31:51 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 02:15:41 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 05, 2014, 11:16:14 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 04:52:46 PM
I've never heard of Leverage either. They don't sound like anything special lol

The first album, Tides, is excellent. One of the top 10 best melodic hard rock albums of this millenium for me. That album was their greatest hits :biggrin:
Worth a try jj.

Indeed it was. took me a good while to decide which track to use, such is the quality of the album.

I suspect it was you that gave me a track in my last Roulette then? Very good tune - Dreamworld.

Using quotes: You suck at it!
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Post by: Mosh on December 05, 2014, 05:58:16 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
Quote from: Mosh on December 04, 2014, 04:12:11 PM
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All are classics and you can't go wrong with any of the 6. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone favor Diver Down over VH2.
I'll admit, this part of the ranking is largely sentimental. I didn't listen to those two bottom albums until long after getting into Van Halen. So I didn't grow up with those records like I did the others. So Diver Down has some more value to me because of that. And honestly there's quite a few songs on II I could never get into.

That said, I still really love Diver Down whenever I put it on. It's pretty brief and there are lots of covers but I don't mind. I quite enjoy the covers and I think the original songs (particularly Secrets, Hang Em High, Little Guitars) are up there with VH's best.

I love Big Bad Bill and Happy trails best. And I'm not joking :biggrin:
Oh me too! Jan Van Halen's clarinet playing is great. Such a talented family they've got there.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 06, 2014, 02:40:57 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 05, 2014, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 02:15:41 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 05, 2014, 11:16:14 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 04:52:46 PM
I've never heard of Leverage either. They don't sound like anything special lol

The first album, Tides, is excellent. One of the top 10 best melodic hard rock albums of this millenium for me. That album was their greatest hits :biggrin:
Worth a try jj.

Indeed it was. took me a good while to decide which track to use, such is the quality of the album.

I suspect it was you that gave me a track in my last Roulette then? Very good tune - Dreamworld.

Seems I do :lol

Using quotes: You suck at it!

Did you see what I did there? :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2014, 07:12:15 AM: I'd like to see Kingshmegland try something like that. Probably shut the entire interwebz down! :lol
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Post by: WebRaider on December 06, 2014, 08:57:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 03, 2014, 11:20:21 AM
I stumbled onto a review of 1984 the other day that listed Girl Gone Bad and House Of Pain as "filler". No way man .........I really don't dislike anything on it but those two tracks are classics in my book.

Jump gets away with it for me because of the solo section............the guitars and the keys with the pick slides going on behind , which adds that classic VH touch. I used to proudly tell everyone (as a young kid) that the same guy - my idol- was playing the key AND guitar solos ::) Same with I'll Wait.............killer solo with all the weird little EVH touches I love.

If there's one track I'm a bit sick of I think it'd be Panama..........probably just due to over exposure to it.

Girl Gone Bad and House of Pain are songs that are some of my favorite underrated Van Halen tunes. They're more edgier metal-esque than some of their catalog. I love pretty much everything classic VH did (not so much all the covers) but songs like these are cool to me cause they were a little left of center for the band.
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Post by: WebRaider on December 06, 2014, 08:58:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 03, 2014, 02:20:14 PM
No, I did NOT take this picture. Got it off Google Images. But I did see this tour. Autograph opened and were practically booed off the stage.
(https://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/wingnutLS2/VanHalen1984Stage2.jpg)

:metal :metal :metal

Ahem..... ;D
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Post by: WebRaider on December 06, 2014, 09:14:22 PM: This is a preliminary run-down of how I think I would rate 1984.... feel like I'm missing a few...

1. Van Halen - 1984
2. Dokken - Tooth And Nail
3. Ratt - Out Of The Cellar
4. Metallica - Ride The Lightning
5. Whitesnake - Slide It In
6. Scorpions - Love At First Sting
7. Dio - The Last In Line
8. Steve Vai - Flex-Able
9. Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force
10 W.A.S.P. - s/t
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Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2014, 09:59:00 PM: Nice list Webraider.

Hey guys..........check out this PoS from PoS ;D

Holy Diver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDs41rgyCbw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2014, 10:34:16 PM: WTF
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Post by: Bolsters on December 07, 2014, 10:46:42 PM: Not really a fan of that, but at least they tried to do something different with the song. I don't see the point of or the appeal of listening to a cover that's exactly the same as the original. I like it when bands take a song and make it their own instead of playing it exactly the same way the original band did.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2014, 10:57:06 PM: I don't see the point of covering a song if you're going to play it absolutely nothing like the original. Why even bother?

I don't mind when a band changes a song to suit their style, like changing the key, arranging it to fit their specific instruments, changing up some melodies, adding some of their own signature embellishments, but if you're playing it that differently, I see it as disrespectful to the original, like it wasn't right as it is. It should still be the same song at its core. That bore zero resemblance to the original other than the lyrics. It was just worthless and pointless.

I prefer covers to be close to the originals. Just the process of a band covering a song already imparts their own character on it to make it different enough to the original. I don't think I've ever liked a cover that was that different to the original, unless it's some joke Youtube thing you watch once for a laugh, or if I didn't like the original song to begin with.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2014, 10:59:29 PM: I agree Blob.

Not a cover per se but have you heard this? Just the DLR scream at the start over that music cracks me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-kF4r08y5k
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2014, 11:01:21 PM: :lol I might have heard it before, I can't remember. That one's well done. I have a ton of multi-tracks sitting on my computer, including all of the VH ones. I should try something like that one time.
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2014, 01:03:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2014, 10:59:29 PM
I agree Blob.

Not a cover per se but have you heard this? Just the DLR scream at the start over that music cracks me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-kF4r08y5k
Holy shit! :rollin
That is AWESOME!!!!! Love when the prechorus and the drums come in together.

Also, just came back from the library. Brought back Paul Stanley's book and picked up Joe Perry's.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2014, 02:08:06 AM: Speaking of books today I picked up I Am Ozzy (Ebay: 99c ;D ) and ordered Bob Daisley's book "For Facts Sake" which is apparently a really interesting account of his time with Ozzy/Blizzard of Ozz, Rainbow, Gary Moore, Malmsteen etc...... looking forward to that one if I ever find the time. He wrote so many of my favourite songs it's not funny...........whether he got credit or not :)
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2014, 05:58:14 AM: I will definitely get to Daisley's book. I also read Rudy Sarzo's Off The Rails. I'm not sure I would be interested in Ozzy's. How could you trust any of it?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2014, 06:00:04 AM: Yeah I know........I felt the same until I checked the reviews around the place for Ozzy's book and was surprised to see it almost universally positive. I'll let you know if I get my 99c worth :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 09, 2014, 06:01:58 AM: I'd have no reason to doubt the sincerity of Ozzy's words, although I would doubt his ability to even remember what he had for breakfast today, let alone what was happening at the time. :lol

If you want to read some good fiction, go read Hulk Hogan or Ace Frehley's bio's.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2014, 06:05:06 AM: Well that's just it. How the hell is Ozzy going to remember anything. Nothing against Sharon, but this book is going to be what Sharon wants the reader to know.

I have Ace Frehley's. I was severely disappointed with it. You could really tell that it was written by the coauthor. There were passages where you could know that Ace doesn't talk like that.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2014, 06:06:43 AM: So it made sense , huh?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 09, 2014, 06:07:44 AM: :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 09, 2014, 06:13:10 AM: :lol

Read Paul's recently and Ace's. My cousin loved Rudy Sarzo's. I haven't got to it yet.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2014, 06:16:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2014, 06:06:43 AM
So it made sense , huh?
Exactly!

Speaking of Daisley:
https://bravewords.com/news/former-ozzy-osbourne-bassist-bob-daisley-slams-classic-rocks-roll-of-honour-awards-insulting-and-disrespectful-to-randy-rhoads-they-should-be-ashamed

Going to listen to the interview now.

For Fact's Sake is finally listed on Amazon, but at $40. Not buying it until the price comes down.

Another Edit: The above Daisley interview is AWESOME!!
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Post by: wkiml on December 09, 2014, 12:37:34 PM: my top 11 for 1984 because I couldn't narrow it down any further

1 Mercyful Fate Don't Break the Oath
2 Metal Church Metal Church'
3 Anthrax Fist Full of Metal
4 Yngwie Rising Force
5 Metallica Ride the Lightning
6 Wasp Wasp
7 Fates Warning Night on Brocken
8 Venom At war with Satan
9 Queensryche Warning
10 Scorpions Love at First Sting
11 Dio Last in Line
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2014, 12:47:17 PM: THAT'S a metal list, bro! :metal
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Post by: wkiml on December 09, 2014, 01:15:50 PM: Never really into Hard Rock as I got older I can appreciate some of it but when making the list I was thinking about what I listened at that time

Honestly most of those I still listen too

Don't Break the Oath and Metal Church S/T would probably both fall in my top 10 albums of all time
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2014, 01:35:53 PM: I had Melissa, I beleive, and ended up trading it away. I could never get into Mercyful Fate. Didn't care for the image at all.
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Post by: wkiml on December 09, 2014, 01:40:29 PM: MF was a band you either loved or hated didn't seem to be any middle ground with them . I for one never really cared what image a band was trying to present, it was more about the music
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2014, 02:40:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 09, 2014, 01:35:53 PM
I had Melissa, I beleive, and ended up trading it away. I could never get into Mercyful Fate. Didn't care for the image at all.

wut?

Such an amazing, iconic metal album. Saying that though, I'd probably take Oath over it.

MF's entire catalog IMO is really strong. I'm a huge fan of their forgotten 90's output. Some really tremendous metal on those.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2014, 03:05:39 PM: Wolf, I'd have to take you back to 1984 with me. I had Kill 'Em All when it came out. Fistful, the first Tank album and Mercyful Fate. But at some point during that year, after having this quick exposure, I sort of lost interest in what would basically become thrash. I got heavily into UFO, Maiden, Dio. I wasn't a prude, but even as a 14 or 15 year old kid, I had something inside me that caused me to drift away from certain images, and I had no interest in anything Satanic, as MF "supposedly were". I actually traded a bunch of tapes to a friend of mine.

I wouldn't get back into thrash/speed metal until I heard Keepers Pt.1. I sampled Master Of Puppets when it came out, because I was going to see them open for Ozzy. I still wasn't in love with them. I got back into them with Garage Days Rerevisited.

I actually ignored King Diamond throughout the 80's because of his so called image. I walked out of two KD Club shows in the late 80's after going to see the opening bands. I had a friend who was very into KD. I thought the music was great but I couldn't stand HIM.

I got into KD and MF about 7 years ago, and have gone and grabbed their back catalogs.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2014, 03:09:32 PM: That's fair enough. I could see at the time how the image would be a bit off putting. For me, I got into them about 8 or so years ago, so the image wasn't an issue for me. Good to see you fixed that problem now though. :tup
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2014, 03:20:15 PM: Yeah, I've made my peace with MF/KD. I really appreciate the music, but I'm still not a great fan of KD vocally. The music is really great though.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2014, 04:20:04 PM: I reviewed Melissa and DBTO for the lists but neither even made my 70% cutoff for a proper rating. Personally I'm not fussed about the content etc......and I can handle his voice about half the time ........I just didn't think the songs were there. The one song I really liked out of the lot was The Oath. Aside from that there were 4 or 5 tracks across both albums that I rated very good and the rest did little for me at all.

I find stuff like Abigail much more consistent than Mercyful Fate.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 09, 2014, 09:08:50 PM: Not much of a fan, but you can't deny the song "A Dangerous Meeting". Very cool!
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Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2014, 04:32:09 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 09, 2014, 09:08:50 PM
Not much of a fan, but you can't deny the song "A Dangerous Meeting". Very cool!
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That would be my fav on the album, amazing song.

Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2014, 04:20:04 PM
I find stuff like Abigail much more consistent than Mercyful Fate.

I would agree with this. I think KD in general is a lot more consistent than MF, and more accessable.
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Post by: TAC on December 10, 2014, 08:35:41 AM: New Priest reissue of Defenders with a full concert from that tour. I'm up for this.
https://bravewords.com/news/judas-priest-remastered-expanded-version-of-classic-defenders-of-the-faith-album-announced
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 10, 2014, 08:52:47 AM: Hell yes!!!! This is a must buy for me. I was wondering if a deluxe edition was going to be released at some point. But as 2014 was coming to a close, it didn't sound like it was going to happen. I figured 30 year anniversary, it was likely to happen. Cool news!!
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Post by: Zydar on December 10, 2014, 08:54:45 AM: Nice!
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Post by: TAC on December 10, 2014, 10:07:55 AM: Yeah, the fact that there's a full concert being released is awesome. I always hate the obligatory live tracks. It's always a giant tease. I want the full show!!
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Post by: Lowdz on December 10, 2014, 03:11:11 PM: I'll be all over this one. Shame there's no dvd...
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Post by: Lowdz on December 10, 2014, 03:19:12 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2014, 06:00:04 AM
Yeah I know........I felt the same until I checked the reviews around the place for Ozzy's book and was surprised to see it almost universally positive. I'll let you know if I get my 99c worth :lol

I read his book Diary Of A Madman back in the 80s when he was still a metal god and not a mumbling fool. Funniest book I ever read :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2014, 10:52:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 10, 2014, 10:07:55 AM
Yeah, the fact that there's a full concert being released is awesome. I always hate the obligatory live tracks. It's always a giant tease. I want the full show!!

I'll pick it up for the live show, but wasn't there a VHS of this tour? Also, no bonus tracks at all.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2014, 03:38:02 AM: Damn. Get better Nige.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/saxon-drummer-nigel-glocker-rushed-to-hospital-remaining-uk-dates-postponed/
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 11, 2014, 04:29:33 AM: Crappy news
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Post by: El Barto on December 11, 2014, 03:10:50 PM: That's a damn shame. Last time I saw them was a year ago and the man was great. He also got the loudest cheers of the night from people excited to see him back (he hadn't been to Texas in ages).
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2014, 03:12:21 PM: I can't believe how well he's drumming at his age. They have a date announced in Worcester in May. With Armored Saint!! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 11, 2014, 04:09:56 PM: That would be an awesome double bill!!

Hopefully something new from Armored Saint this year!
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Post by: Deathless on December 11, 2014, 08:08:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 11, 2014, 04:09:56 PM
That would be an awesome double bill!!

Hopefully something new from Armored Saint this year!

They're working on a new album. John Bush made a funny joke about Metal Blade not making any money off them, so it should be through MB again.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 11, 2014, 09:15:24 PM: Cool news.

Armored Saint IMO has never released anything sub par. All of their albums are awesome; a very very underrated band.
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Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2014, 04:15:56 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/saxon-drummer-nigel-glockler-undergoes-surgery-for-brain-aneurysm/

Shit, more bad news for Nigel.
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2014, 01:15:36 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 11, 2014, 09:15:24 PM
Cool news.

Armored Saint IMO has never released anything sub par. All of their albums are awesome; a very very underrated band.
Yeah, but they are a live band through and through. I'm not sure Chrysalis on the first two albums was ever really able to capture the essense of that.
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2014, 01:57:19 PM: Can't wait for this album!
Songs included in link.
https://bravewords.com/news/serious-black-featuring-roland-grapow-and-urban-breed-release-sealing-my-fate-single-audio-preview-streaming
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 12, 2014, 03:07:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2014, 01:57:19 PM
Can't wait for this album!
Songs included in link.
https://bravewords.com/news/serious-black-featuring-roland-grapow-and-urban-breed-release-sealing-my-fate-single-audio-preview-streaming

Awesome!!! I'm seriously looking forward to this one too.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 12, 2014, 03:58:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 12, 2014, 03:07:09 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2014, 01:57:19 PM
Can't wait for this album!
Songs included in link.
https://bravewords.com/news/serious-black-featuring-roland-grapow-and-urban-breed-release-sealing-my-fate-single-audio-preview-streaming

Awesome!!! I'm seriously looking forward to this one too.

I'm excited for this one. Maybe a Unisonic beater...
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Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2014, 04:35:58 PM: Sounding pretty promising.
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Post by: bosk1 on December 12, 2014, 04:50:08 PM: Man, I remember when this thread used to be about good music.
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Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2014, 05:26:05 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on December 12, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Man, I remember when this thread used to be about good music.

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Post by: jingle.boy on December 12, 2014, 06:04:32 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on December 12, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Man, I remember when this thread used to be about good music.

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Post by: TAC on December 13, 2014, 07:05:29 AM: Seems like Brent had a serious 1984 burn. I wonder how 1985 is coming along.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 13, 2014, 07:08:10 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 13, 2014, 07:05:29 AM
Seems like Brent had a serious 1984 burn. I wonder how 1985 is coming along.

;D You're right.........pushing myself to do 100 or so album scores in a week burned me out a bit and took a bit of the fun out of it. I am doing 1985 but mixing it up with some newer releases and not putting a deadline on it. Should be done this week though.
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Post by: TAC on December 13, 2014, 09:18:47 AM: No rush, bro. No rush at all.

Seriously no Rush, Power Windows doesn't count! ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 13, 2014, 03:13:34 PM: There were some outstanding albums released in 1985
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Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2014, 04:37:14 AM: New Russ Allen and Mat Sinner song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5pZfEOmBuDQ

Pretty dark. I'm not sure if Roland had a hand in the songwriting, but I hear a lot of his influence here. I think I like this.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 16, 2014, 10:52:24 AM: I really like that tune.
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Post by: El Barto on December 16, 2014, 12:11:35 PM: Nigel seems to be recovering from the second surgery, and the prognosis appears good.

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Post by: bosk1 on December 16, 2014, 12:11:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 13, 2014, 07:05:29 AM
Seems like Brent had a serious 1984 burn. I wonder how 1985 is coming along.

I will save it until Brent posts his 1985, but I will say it was a major step down from 1985 for me. I can't even do a top 10. I can list 8 albums, and quite a few of those would not even make a "top __" list if it were a stronger year. And 2 "live" albums are on that list as well.
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Post by: TAC on December 16, 2014, 12:16:11 PM: Yeah, I actually made a Top 10, but don't really have HMs.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 16, 2014, 01:31:25 PM: Good to hear about Nigel!
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Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2014, 01:36:03 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 16, 2014, 01:31:25 PM
Good to hear about Nigel!

Definitely. It certainly was a bit of a concern.
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Post by: TAC on December 16, 2014, 01:44:03 PM: Yeah, hoping for a recovery.

I'd love to have a beer with Biff. :yarr
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 16, 2014, 03:52:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 16, 2014, 01:44:03 PM
Yeah, hoping for a recovery.

I'd love to have a beer with Biff. :yarr

I would bet $1000 that Biff can't go one minute without swearing
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Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2014, 04:08:44 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 16, 2014, 03:52:49 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 16, 2014, 01:44:03 PM
Yeah, hoping for a recovery.

I'd love to have a beer with Biff. :yarr

I would bet $1000 that Biff can't go one minute without swearing

I think me and Biff would get on really well then.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2014, 08:43:57 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 17, 2014, 07:26:45 AM
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RJookrPOXMQ/TQOm36fRGpI/AAAAAAAAANw/trbue8STn4I/s320/capa%2Bmetalhead.jpg)(https://www.oocities.org/sunsetstrip/amphitheatre/5841/kiss19.jpg)

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 17, 2014, 08:14:31 AM
And Tim, great picks. Outstanding live Dio and top tier Saxon and Kiss

Thought I'd move this here. Perhaps we'll have band related discussions in the future in this thread, but I wanted to post a couple of things.
First, I have always been a Saxon fan. Kind of didn't pay attention after Innocence up until Lionheart. But over the last decade, they have really solidified a spot and likely cracked the TAC Top 10 Band list. They have truly never been better.
And secondly regarding Animalize, this was really the album that got me back into Kiss. Creatures came and went, as did Lick It Up. Thought both were decent, but it wasn't until Animalized that I was convinced that Kiss were indeed back. It is their heaviest album, and it was only after that that I truly appreciated their efforts on Creatures.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2014, 09:09:19 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 17, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
Perhaps we'll have band related discussions in the future in this thread

For sure...........that was my original idea (band discussions with top 10 songs etc...) - a much easier task- but stupid me decided to do years first ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2014, 09:11:28 AM: Years is cool. Just thought I'd throw those out there.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2014, 09:48:20 AM: Personally I thought Creatures was much stronger than Animalize but both are good. My Saxon collection certainly isn't complete but they're pretty consistently good. I wasn't a big fan of Sacrifice though - I bought it on the strength of the title track (which is immense) and thought the rest was pretty average.

As far as the years go (as I hinted at earlier) I'll probably stop somewhere around 93-95 if that doesn't upset too many people and we'll get back to bands/novelty top 10's. As far as I'm concerned 1992 was about the end of the best years in hard rock and straight metal. Prog metal sure took off but that's not the domain of this thread.
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Post by: TAC on December 17, 2014, 10:45:01 AM: I would also take Creatures over Animalize. In fact, I'd probably take Asylum over it too.

And Sacrifice is awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 17, 2014, 02:19:28 PM: Saxon is really a band that just seems to get better with time. Metalhead is a fantastic album.

The triple threat of Creatures, Lick it Up and Animalize is my favorite from Kiss. The subsequent 80s albums are good, but can get a little cheesy and too much trying to fit in with the times. But those three are just pure hard rock.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2014, 03:26:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 17, 2014, 02:19:28 PM
The triple threat of Creatures, Lick it Up and Animalize is my favorite from Kiss. The subsequent 80s albums are good, but can get a little cheesy and too much trying to fit in with the times. But those three are just pure hard rock.
This post got me thinking. It's funny how Kiss "lost their way" and then came back with these hard rock albums reestablish themselves as a serious rock band. Then, as you say, they got to cheesy, and needed to make Revenge to re assert themselves. So they actually had two instances where they came and went artistically.

But they were still very successful in the 80's and every band were following the path blazed by Bon Jovi. Paul Stanley sure was.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 17, 2014, 10:37:17 PM: Revenge was an awesome release, I wish they would have stayed with that sound. Carnival of Souls was terrible (except Jungle, which I thought was good) and Psycho Circus was only decent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2014, 10:39:58 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 17, 2014, 10:37:17 PM
Revenge was an awesome release, I wish they would have stayed with that sound. Carnival of Souls was terrible (except Jungle, which I thought was good) and Psycho Circus was only decent.

Yep.......it's a shame they didn't take up where Revenge left off . It seems it was a no win though - either alt. crap like Carnival of Souls or a fairly average reunion. I suppose we got the better of the two at the time.

I remember when getting a hold of the CoS bootleg was a huge deal for a KISS fan. What a letdown when you managed to though :-\
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 17, 2014, 10:42:13 PM: money talks and Gene needs the cash
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 17, 2014, 10:46:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 17, 2014, 10:39:58 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 17, 2014, 10:37:17 PM
Revenge was an awesome release, I wish they would have stayed with that sound. Carnival of Souls was terrible (except Jungle, which I thought was good) and Psycho Circus was only decent.

Yep.......it's a shame they didn't take up where Revenge left off . It seems it was a no win though - either alt. crap like Carnival of Souls or a fairly average reunion. I suppose we got the better of the two at the time.

I remember when getting a hold of the CoS bootleg was a huge deal for a KISS fan. What a letdown when you managed to though :-\

I blame the '90s! Revenge is my favourite KISS album, so I wish they could have continued down that path too (along with every other band that got rock-blocked by that whole thing), rather than CoS/Psycho Circus, even though Psycho Circus does have some good songs on it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2014, 11:03:01 PM: I haven't done a mag cover for a while...............here we go (1992).

(https://s13.postimg.org/jk4eev7jr/revenge.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on December 18, 2014, 01:58:40 AM: That is prob my fave Kiss line up and I saw them live before they put the make up back on and got Peter and Ace back.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 18, 2014, 02:34:39 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on December 18, 2014, 01:58:40 AM
That is prob my fave Kiss line up and I saw them live before they put the make up back on and got Peter and Ace back.

I saw the Revenge tour too. The one strong memory I have is thinking that Eric Singer hit the drums as hard as anyone I'd ever seen. And I don't normally take much notice of drummers ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 18, 2014, 08:06:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 16, 2014, 04:37:14 AM
New Russ Allen and Mat Sinner song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5pZfEOmBuDQ

Pretty dark. I'm not sure if Roland had a hand in the songwriting, but I hear a lot of his influence here. I think I like this.

Didn't like this at all. Vocals being the shittest bit. ANd that shouldn't be the case.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2014, 08:06:53 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 18, 2014, 02:34:39 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on December 18, 2014, 01:58:40 AM
That is prob my fave Kiss line up and I saw them live before they put the make up back on and got Peter and Ace back.

I saw the Revenge tour too. The one strong memory I have is thinking that Eric Singer hit the drums as hard as anyone I'd ever seen. And I don't normally take much notice of drummers ;D
The Revenge tour was my favorite from Kiss. Great show!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 21, 2014, 11:45:27 PM: Just got my Bob Daisley autobiog in the mail - had to buy from England even though Bob's an Aussie who lives locally. :-\ Anyway............I can see now why it's a bit expensive. It's a quite large/heavy hardback with high quality paper etc.......

He (or the publishers) also took the time to stick an autographed card inside the front cover for me. Looks like a very comprehensive book with plenty of cool photos.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on December 22, 2014, 12:19:44 AM: It's a great read too, Bob did an in store a couple weeks back in Sydney, I got a signed copy, and he signed my Gary Moore Wild Frontier CD.
The book is very in depth and if you hated Ozzy/Sharon already you're gonna hate them to a whole new level after reading.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2014, 05:22:34 PM: I cannot believe this guy is still alive!
https://bravewords.com/features/original-ufo-bassist-pete-way-im-ready-to-go-out-and-be-dangerous
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2014, 06:13:12 AM: I've tried to drop a few hints in the album thread that I haven't forgotten 1985 but as per usual the deeper I delve the more albums I find that need a listen. The good news is that I've already done 50+ albums and my research is complete as far as finding the albums - the bad news is I still have another 30 or so to listen to/rate/eliminate. Like many here my initial thoughts toward 1985 were "Meh!" but the longer I've spent on it the more I've surprised myself at the good stuff that was released that year. A lot of it from more obscure names which is part of the issue.......a number got a mention in my top 50 but I'm not a wizz at remembering the years sometimes.

So it'll be between Xmas and New Years by the looks.

If I don't post in here again before the 25th .............

(https://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/necristoeliel/have_a_metal_christmas.jpg)

(https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/cd52a8a6aa.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 23, 2014, 08:04:56 AM: And a head banging New Year!!!

Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on December 23, 2014, 10:52:04 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 17, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
I would also take Creatures over Animalize. In fact, I'd probably take Asylum over it too.

And Sacrifice is awesome.
I don't know how I missed this but you are out of your mind my friend. :lol Creatures and Animalize destroy (pun intended) Asylum.
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Post by: TAC on December 26, 2014, 05:07:33 PM: Damn classy pic in the Rock Or Bust booklet:

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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2014, 03:40:41 PM: Woah!
https://bravewords.com/news/accept-part-ways-with-herman-frank-stefan-schwarzmann

Jorg Fisher and Stefan Kaufman maybe??
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2014, 07:04:56 PM: Didn't see that coming. Not sure about Kaufman as I believe he retired from UDO with back issues or something along with other health issues.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 28, 2014, 07:35:29 PM: Hopefully it's not a big setback for the band
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2014, 08:18:07 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 28, 2014, 07:35:29 PM
Hopefully it's not a big setback for the band

Nah, the main driving force behind the band is still there. I think they will be all good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 29, 2014, 03:21:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 28, 2014, 07:04:56 PM
Didn't see that coming. Not sure about Kaufman as I believe he retired from UDO with back issues or something along with other health issues.
Kaufman is a pipe dream for me. I loved his drumming. Plus he's been playing guitar for the last 20 years.
Jorg Michael?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 29, 2014, 06:18:36 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 29, 2014, 03:21:55 AM

Jorg Michael?

Why not - mark one of the few remaining metal bands off his list? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 31, 2014, 08:25:53 AM: Only 5 or 6 discs to listen to before 1985 is complete - it's taken a while but the cost of being as comprehensive as I can is the extra time digging/listening.
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Post by: TAC on December 31, 2014, 08:35:50 AM: No problem man. Looking forward to you list. As I said, I made a Top 10, and while it contains some of my favorite albums of all time, this year was not very deep for me.

I will say that my favorite album from 1985 was easily Accept's Metal Heart.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 31, 2014, 12:59:00 PM: Metal Heart is an awesome album!

Living for Tonite is fantastic
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2014, 01:27:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 31, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
Metal Heart is an awesome album!

Living for Tonite is fantastic
I actually have Living For Tonight in the bottom half of the album. So many great songs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2014, 01:49:50 PM: Some of you may find this somewhat surprising, but at the age of 46, after being a lifelong metal fan...I have bought my first Overkill album! ;D
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Post by: bosk1 on December 31, 2014, 02:07:19 PM: I still have none and no plans to get one.
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Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2014, 02:15:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 31, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
Metal Heart is an awesome album!

Living for Tonite is fantastic

Living For Tonite is one of my favs too.

Quote from: TAC on December 31, 2014, 01:49:50 PM
Some of you may find this somewhat surprising, but at the age of 46, after being a lifelong metal fan...I have bought my first Overkill album! ;D

I only know their later stuff, never really checked out the old stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 31, 2014, 02:59:03 PM: I never got into Overkill
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Post by: bl5150 on December 31, 2014, 11:54:49 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 31, 2014, 02:59:03 PM
I never got into Overkill

Me neither - they do have a few good songs though. I checked out Feel The Fire for the 1985 list but it didn't make the cut (70%) for a proper rating.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2015, 03:17:08 AM: Ironbound is a fantastic metal album.
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Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2015, 03:25:23 AM: Samples from new John Sykes album;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/john-sykes-audio-samples-of-upcoming-solo-album/

Sounds like it could have potential. Some samples there that really remind me of Lizzy.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 01, 2015, 03:29:57 AM: Yeah - sounds alright. Bits of Lizzy and Blue Murder in there - if the solos are up to scratch it could be a good one.
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Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2015, 03:38:07 AM: That one little snippet of the shred in there sounded mighty good. Interesting cover song in there too. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on January 01, 2015, 06:23:10 AM: Sounding pretty good. I'll be up for this.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 07:07:43 AM: Sykes always sounds good
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 08:50:44 AM: I could not detect any Thin Lizzy in those samples. The guitar sound was fantastic though, but I'm not in love with his vocals and the songs seem like a hodgepodge generic medium to hard rock.
Same issues I had with Blue Murder.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 09:02:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 01, 2015, 03:17:08 AM
Ironbound is a fantastic metal album.

Hell yeah! :metal

For whatever reason I just never got into them. My college roommate had one of their tapes back in the day. I remember one song the guy was singing about masterbating. Not into that..
As much as I love heavy metal, I have always found straight thrash somewhat boring, so I never got into bands like Overkill and even Testament back then. Actually saw Overkill open for Slayer on the Seasons tour.

Saw Bravewords list White Devil Armory as their #10 metal album for 2014. Decided to click the link to the song posted and thought it was really cool. Sampled a few other things and I bought their most recent three albums. Really enjoying them. A lot.
But they are like AC/DC in a sense that they do what they do. No surprises here. Just good consistency.
I may end up working my way back through their catalog over time.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 01, 2015, 05:36:03 PM: So guys .........here we go. A new year and so to celebrate I'll give you a new year. We might as well keep this number thing going so expect 1986 in 2016 ;D

1985 turned out to be a much better year than I expected coming in. I dug very deep for this one and there were plenty of albums in there that I'd either forgotten or never heard. All up I once again listened to over 100 albums for this exercise. In the end I think 1985 is as strong as some of the earlier years , it's just that many of the strong albums were by rather obscure artists. A number of our favourite bands produced their weakest album in 1985 and a few went a bit softer (some did that well , others not so much) and barely scraped in as "hard rock".

In terms of events we had confirmation that DLR had parted ways with Van Halen and the release of his solo EP Crazy From The Heat. There were reunions of Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin for Live Aid. Not a great deal else happened that strikes me.

Quote from: TAC on December 31, 2014, 08:35:50 AM
No problem man. Looking forward to you list. As I said, I made a Top 10, and while it contains some of my favorite albums of all time, this year was not very deep for me.

I will say that my favorite album from 1985 was easily Accept's Metal Heart.

At the risk of incurring TAC's wrath I'll note that Metal Heart didn't make my cut. Nobody can say I have anything against Accept as they have already featured prominently in these lists. Metal Heart actually contains 2 of my favourite Accept tunes (the title track and Living For Tonite) but the mid section of the album - say tracks 4,6,7,8 - I rate as filler. Decent filler but filler all the same, and when the songs are anything other than top notch I begin to suffer Udo fatigue. And that makes it very hard, given the way I'm ranking albums , for Metal Heart to make the cut.

So...................

TOP 10 ALBUMS OF 1985

1 Dokken : Under Lock and Key(TIE)
1.Icon : Night Of The Crime
3 Yngwie Malmsteen: Marching Out
4 Streets: Crimes In Mind
5 Heaven: Knocking On Heavens Door
6 Jimmy Barnes : For The Working Class Man
7 Anthrax: Spreading The Disease
8 King Kobra: Ready To Strike
9 Vandenberg: Alibi
10 Bon Jovi 7800 Fahrenheit

Missed By A Bee's Dick

Kix : Midnight Dynamite
Saxon: Innocence Is No Excuse

Made The Squad But Not The Team:

Loudness :Thunder In The East
UFO :Misdemeanor
Helloise:Cosmogony
David Lee Roth:Crazy From The Heat
Lizzy Borden:Love You To Pieces
Gary Moore:Run For Cover
Tytan:Rough Justice
Shy :Brave The Storm
Joshua :Surrender
Phenomena :Phenomena
Horizon: Master of the Game
AC/DC :Fly On The Wall
Virgin Steele: Noble Savage
Hawaii: The Natives Are Restless
Coney Hatch: Friction
Ratt: Invasion of Your Privacy
Mad Max: Stormchild
Tyran Pace :Long Live Metal
Heavy Pettin': Rock Ain't Dead
Dio : Sacred Heart
Lee Aaron: Call of the Wild
Treat : Scratch and Bite
Mox Nix : Mox Nix
Malice :In The Beginning
Pantera :I Am The Night
Hurricane:Take What You Want
Sinner:Touch Of Sin
Tangier:Tangier

For those wondering where Magnum's On A Storyteller's Night is , I rated it too pissweak to be called "hard rock". If I had included it , it would've been a few spots out of the top ten based on ratings. A few other albums I rated for this were similar but I included the bands because plenty of their other material is considered hard rock and I didn't want crossover if we ever do something like this in the AOR thread. UFO's Misdemeanor would be an example.

Fire away.....................

As before , I'll take a break and listen to some newer stuff for a few days and start on 1986 next week some time. That could easily be a 10 way tie for number one :D
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 05:44:50 PM: Wow..no Metal Heart?? Living For Tonight IS filler on that album!

Here's my list:
1. Accept-Metal Heart
2. Waysted-The Good The Bad The Waysted
3. UFO-Misdemeanor
4. Yngwie Malmsteen-Marching Out
5. Iron Maiden-Live After Death
6. Dio-Sacred Heart
7. Kiss-Asylum
8. Gary Moore-Run For Cover
9. Aerosmith-Done With Mirrors
10. Anthrax-Spreading The Disease

The UFO and Waysted were BY FAR my most played albums during 1985. Personal favorites, if you will. I got the UK version of Misdemeanor on Import as soon as it came out. It would be another year before the watered down keyboard heavy US version was released.

I would never rate Heaven that high though. Nice to see the mention of Phenomena. Great lineup. Still have that on vinyl.

Malice is a cool band. Loved License To Kill, which would come out a couple years later. Heavy Pettin's Rock Ain't Dead absolutely sucked. So disappointing after Lettin' Loose. WTF happened to Hamie's voice? Helium?
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:09:56 PM: Interesting picks from this year.

The mentioned releases from Yngwie, Dokken and Anthrax are my personal favorites from those bands.

Never heard of Streets. You recommended Night of the Crime from Icon earlier this year and I really enjoy it. Not as good as the debut, but much better then I originally remembered it.

Missing from the list for me would be Accept- Metal Heart, Armored Saint- Delirious Nomad, Maiden- Live after Death, Y&T- Open Fire/Down for the Count, WASP- Last Command, Stryper- Soldiers Under Command, Savatage- Power of the Night and of course, Rush- Power Windows.

Nice to see Coney Hatch and Lizzy Borden make the HM.

Those first three releases from Pantera are strange to listen to considering the sound they took in the 90s.
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 06:14:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:09:56 PM
Missing from the list for me would be Accept- Metal Heart, Armored Saint- Delirious Nomad, Maiden- Live after Death, Y&T- Open Fire/Down for the Count, WASP- Last Command, Stryper- Soldiers Under Command,
Some good albums listed here.
Armored Saint!! :metal That should also be on my list somewhere, but honestly, my list is based on what I listened to that year. It would be two more years until I was fully vested in Armored Saint, and I basically ignored Delirious Nomad when it was released.

Open Fire was cool, as is The Last Command.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:17:38 PM: There are actually a few bands I'm not familiar with on the list: Mox Nix, Treat, Mad Max, Tangier, Helloise, Horizon
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 06:26:49 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:17:38 PM
There are actually a few bands I'm not familiar with on the list: Mox Nix, Treat, Mad Max, Tangier, Helloise, Horizon
No kidding!

Mox Nix? WTF? :lol

Wasn't Streets Steve Walsh?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 01, 2015, 06:35:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 01, 2015, 06:14:09 PM

my list is based on what I listened to that year.

We're not to that point yet with me - 1986 is where I began to branch out beyond KISS and Van Halen (aged 12). I will continue to rate things as I hear them now but in tight ones I'll now begin to give a bit more weight as to what was important to me back in the day

Quote from: TAC on January 01, 2015, 06:26:49 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:17:38 PM
There are actually a few bands I'm not familiar with on the list: Mox Nix, Treat, Mad Max, Tangier, Helloise, Horizon
No kidding!

Mox Nix? WTF? :lol

Wasn't Streets Steve Walsh?

Have you heard Mox Nix?? I told you I dug deep :)

Streets was Steve Walsh and Mike Slamer (Seventh Key, City Boy....)

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:09:56 PM
Interesting picks from this year.

The mentioned releases from Yngwie, Dokken and Anthrax are my personal favorites from those bands.

Never heard of Streets. You recommended Night of the Crime from Icon earlier this year and I really enjoy it. Not as good as the debut, but much better then I originally remembered it.

Missing from the list for me would be Accept- Metal Heart, Armored Saint- Delirious Nomad, Maiden- Live after Death, Y&T- Open Fire/Down for the Count, WASP- Last Command, Stryper- Soldiers Under Command, Savatage- Power of the Night and of course, Rush- Power Windows.

Nice to see Coney Hatch and Lizzy Borden make the HM.

Those first three releases from Pantera are strange to listen to considering the sound they took in the 90s.

Armored Saint, WASP, Savatage and , to a lesser extent , Y&T and Stryper are all big faves of mine but their 1985 albums I rate either their weakest or close to. Having said that I rated them all mid-high 70's (Metal Heart too) which , to be fair , would've made my HM's if I hadn't toughened up the required score (80%) in 1984.
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 01, 2015, 06:36:11 PM: An album that wasn't metal but I loved was Joe Walsh's -- The Confessor.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 06:40:47 PM: Never heard of Mox Nix.

Quote from: bl5150 on January 01, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
We're not to that point yet with me - 1986 is where I began to branch out beyond KISS and Van Halen (aged 12). I will continue to rate things as I hear them now but in tight ones I'll now begin to give a bit more weight as to what was important to me back in the day
Totally cool. It's great to me to hear the effect music had on people and their lives at the time. Looking forward to your "first hand knowledge" lists.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:41:46 PM: Trying to do some research on Mox Nix- it's limited. Did they just release this one album?
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 01, 2015, 06:42:16 PM: Tim, we should start a 45's thread and embarrass ourselves. :lol

God the crap I bought as a kid.
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 06:43:01 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on January 01, 2015, 06:42:16 PM
Tim, we should start a 45's thread and embarrass ourselves. :lol

God the crap I bought as a kid.
What's wrong with Gary Numan?? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on January 01, 2015, 06:50:11 PM: New York, London Paris Munich, everybody talk about .........
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 06:52:19 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on January 01, 2015, 06:50:11 PM
New York, London Paris Munich, everybody talk about .........

JJ cover your eyes! :lol

King, isn't that M? Pop Music?
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 01, 2015, 06:54:36 PM: Yup. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 01, 2015, 06:57:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 01, 2015, 06:40:47 PM
Never heard of Mox Nix.

Quote from: bl5150 on January 01, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
We're not to that point yet with me - 1986 is where I began to branch out beyond KISS and Van Halen (aged 12). I will continue to rate things as I hear them now but in tight ones I'll now begin to give a bit more weight as to what was important to me back in the day
Totally cool. It's great to me to hear the effect music had on people and their lives at the time. Looking forward to your "first hand knowledge" lists.

Much of what I'm ranking now has "first hand knowledge" I suppose............for example I was listening to Malmsteen and Dokken by 1987 , so it's just that I wasn't listening to them in their year of release at this point.

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:41:46 PM
Trying to do some research on Mox Nix- it's limited. Did they just release this one album?

Only the one album yeah. Heavily influenced by the better bands of the time (Riot, Priest, Y&T,) - from Houston but couldn't get a deal and so they sent tapes to Europe (Kerrang etc...)and managed a deal with Axe Killer.

IMHO it's a damn side better than many released by established acts in 1985.

Try a sample

Kill Or Be Killed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3U3G-hPDNM
Lost Sierra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjmNO4ykcE4
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:58:22 PM: The one band that started their setback this year was Twisted Sister. That's a band I always think what if? If they didn't change things up after Stay Hungry and stayed with the heavy sound releasing a new album every few years, what a discography of kick ass music they would have.

I still love them, but always thought they were capable of much more
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Post by: bl5150 on January 01, 2015, 07:01:04 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:58:22 PM

The one band that started their setback this year was Twisted Sister. That's a band I always think what if? If they didn't change things up after Stay Hungry and stayed with the heavy sound releasing a new album every few years, what a discography of kick ass music they would have.

I still love them, but always thought they were capable of much more

Dee was too busy in court with the PMRC in 1985 ;D They were of course one of the bands I alluded to who released a poor one.
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 07:02:49 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 01, 2015, 06:57:16 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:41:46 PM
Trying to do some research on Mox Nix- it's limited. Did they just release this one album?

Only the one album yeah. Heavily influenced by the better bands of the time (Riot, Priest, Y&T,) - from Houston but couldn't get a deal and so they sent tapes to Europe (Kerrang etc...)and managed a deal with Axe Killer.

IMHO it's a damn side better than many released by established acts in 1985.

Try a sample

Kill Or Be Killed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3U3G-hPDNM
Lost Sierra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjmNO4ykcE4

I would've loved that back then. Nice!

But seriously, who the hell would've signed a band called Mox Nix? :lol

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 06:58:22 PM
The one band that started their setback this year was Twisted Sister. That's a band I always think what if? If they didn't change things up after Stay Hungry and stayed with the heavy sound releasing a new album every few years, what a discography of kick ass music they would have.

I still love them, but always thought they were capable of much more
I agree 100%. Their first 3 albums are fantastic, especially You Can't Stop Rock n Roll.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 07:08:46 PM: Mox Nix sounds good- pure metal. They remind me a bit of early Virgin Steele
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 07:11:32 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
Mox Nix sounds good- pure metal. They remind me a bit of early Virgin Steele

Yeah, good call.

I thought that they sounded like demos to Spreading The Disease.

And Brent mentioned Riot. Obviously Mox Nix had an East Coast flavor.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 07:15:28 PM: You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is my favorite from TS.

The whole album is great but the opening three songs are ass kickers; especially Like a Knife in the Back
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2015, 07:18:49 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 07:15:28 PM
You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is my favorite from TS.

The whole album is great but the opening three songs are ass kickers; especially Like a Knife in the Back

The Kids Are Back :metal
That was a metal anthem to me in early high school.
Dee sounded awesome on YCSRNR. A great vocalist. Ended up being a clown, which was too bad. He had an awesome metal voice.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 03, 2015, 10:33:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 01, 2015, 07:18:49 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2015, 07:15:28 PM
You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is my favorite from TS.

The whole album is great but the opening three songs are ass kickers; especially Like a Knife in the Back

The Kids Are Back :metal
That was a metal anthem to me in early high school.
Dee sounded awesome on YCSRNR. A great vocalist. Ended up being a clown, which was too bad. He had an awesome metal voice.

I wasn't much of a TS fan but Dee sounded great on the first Widowmaker album, and Desperado.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 03, 2015, 03:00:51 PM: I always meant to check out Widowmaker.
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2015, 03:19:31 AM: I never got into Twisted Sister, although, I don't think I've heard anything outside their hits.

Didn't Reb Beach play on an album of theirs?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 04, 2015, 05:28:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 04, 2015, 03:19:31 AM
I never got into Twisted Sister, although, I don't think I've heard anything outside their hits.

Didn't Reb Beach play on an album of theirs?

Yeah - Love Is For Suckers. I always had a soft spot for the title track (and maybe one other that I can't remember) but the rest is pretty average.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 04, 2015, 06:44:38 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 04, 2015, 03:19:31 AM
I never got into Twisted Sister, although, I don't think I've heard anything outside their hits.

Didn't Reb Beach play on an album of theirs?

Under the Blade and You Can't Stop Rock n Roll are metal classics. Stay Hungry is awesome too, but started to get a little commercial. Come Out and Play and Love is for Suckers is pure pop metal. Still decent though.

Their live album, Live at Hammersmith, should be mentioned with other live classic albums.
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Post by: TAC on January 04, 2015, 03:32:31 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2015, 06:44:38 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 04, 2015, 03:19:31 AM
I never got into Twisted Sister, although, I don't think I've heard anything outside their hits.

Didn't Reb Beach play on an album of theirs?

Under the Blade and You Can't Stop Rock n Roll are metal classics. Stay Hungry is awesome too, but started to get a little commercial. Come Out and Play and Love is for Suckers is pure pop metal. Still decent though.

Their live album, Live at Hammersmith, should be mentioned with other live classic albums.

True, Live At Hammersmith is amazing.

Today is the anniversary of Phil Lynott's death 29 years ago. RIP Rocker.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 04, 2015, 05:19:41 PM: damn drugs!
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2015, 03:53:43 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2015, 06:44:38 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 04, 2015, 03:19:31 AM
I never got into Twisted Sister, although, I don't think I've heard anything outside their hits.

Didn't Reb Beach play on an album of theirs?

Under the Blade and You Can't Stop Rock n Roll are metal classics. Stay Hungry is awesome too, but started to get a little commercial. Come Out and Play and Love is for Suckers is pure pop metal. Still decent though.

Their live album, Live at Hammersmith, should be mentioned with other live classic albums.

Might have to have a listen to some of these.
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2015, 01:17:39 PM: DO IT!
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Post by: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 02:09:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 01, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
...Y&T and Stryper are all big faves of mine but their 1985 albums I rate either their weakest or close to.

Agreed. BUT in Y&T's defense, I completely understand why that album is the way it is. Did they completely "sell out" and abandon musical integrity for the sake of trying to get a more commercially acceptable sound? Yeah, they did. But they are also a band that had at that point tried to "do it their own way" for over a decade and 6 albums while getting shafted by the music industry the entire way, whether it be Herbie Herbert booking them to second-rate gigs in the early days so he could devote more time and energy to his other pet project (some obscure band called Journey, featuring some Santana reject on guitar, apparently), to London records going under and retaining all the rights to the band's first two albums, to A&M never generating any promotion whatsoever for Earthshaker, Black Tiger, Mean Streak, or In Rock We Trust.

By the time 1985 came around, they were a band that was always just one small step and one missed opportunity away from being huge at every turn, and they were tired of it and desperate to try anything to try to break through. That must have been especially painful when you consider all the bands that were previous openers for Y&T that had gone on to hit it big (Van Halen, Ratt, Motley Crue, Dokken, and on and on).

By 1985, the label basically told the band they were on their own and had revoked any support whatsoever. The band were desperate to get anybody's ear, so when they were mixing their new soon-to-be-released live album, Open Fire, they parked the mixing van in the label's parking lot and let whatever they were working on blare through the speakers. At those shows where the live tracks for that album were recorded, they had debuted a new tune that was still rough around the edges called "Summertime Girls." One of the label execs heard it blaring from the van in the parking lot and said it sounded awesome, demanded that they immediately cut a studio version to go on the live album as the next single, and demanded that the next album sound like that. And, viola! That's how we got Down For The Count.
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2015, 02:34:04 PM: You can't really fault Y&T. They weren't the only band to start following the trend. Contageous was just as bad.

Stryper circa 1985 was still a novelty. Christian hard rock. Interesting. And they could play too. I had the EP, but never followed it up. Seemed a bit lite for me at the time. Even listening back now to those albums, I still feel like it's missing something.

Murder By Pride and No More Hell To Pay are both great. They have really come on strong here recently.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 05, 2015, 03:08:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2015, 02:34:04 PM
You can't really fault Y&T. They weren't the only band to start following the trend. Contageous was just as bad.

Stryper circa 1985 was still a novelty. Christian hard rock. Interesting. And they could play too. I had the EP, but never followed it up. Seemed a bit lite for me at the time. Even listening back now to those albums, I still feel like it's missing something.

Murder By Pride and No More Hell To Pay are both great. They have really come on strong here recently.

Contagious was worse - it didn't have much in the way of decent songs. And that Hot For Teacher rip off - yuk. I don't mind DFTC at all though its not their best by any means. Ten is a great album though.

I've always liked Stryper and really don't care what their singing about. The songs are good and that's all that matters.
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Post by: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 03:24:22 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 05, 2015, 03:08:00 PM
Contagious was worse - it didn't have much in the way of decent songs. And that Hot For Teacher rip off - yuk.

Huh, interesting. I always felt that Contagious was a definite step up and then some. 5 really strong songs (the title track, Temptation,¹ Fight For Your Life, Rhythm Or Not, and Eyes of a Stranger), 3 pretty good ones (Armed and Dangerous, Bodily Harm, I'll Cry), and 2 okay ones.

And I never heard The Kid Goes Crazy described as a "Hot For Teacher rip off." But then again, the fact that I was able to tell exactly what song you were talking about just based on that description would tend to mean that, yeah, I guess I can hear that now that you mention it. :lol (But I will say that Jimmy's drum groove is a lot more complex than Alex VH's)

^1. And I only just now realized that Al Pitrelli co-wrote Temptation. Interesting. Back then, I had no idea who he was, and I haven't looked at the songwriting credits on that album in a LONG time.
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2015, 03:26:41 PM: I didn't mind Contagious at all really.
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2015, 03:32:53 PM: It's probably been over 20 years since I have listened to Contagious.
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Post by: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 03:34:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2015, 03:32:53 PM
It's probably been over 20 years since I have listened to Contagious.

It's probably been over 20 seconds since I last thought of not smacking you upside the head.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 05, 2015, 03:43:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
I didn't mind Contagious at all really.

Me neither - I'd pretty much agree with bosk1's assessment of the songs , although I'd have Armed and Dangerous in with the strong ones and Rhythm or Not in the okay.
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2015, 03:46:16 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 03:34:54 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2015, 03:32:53 PM
It's probably been over 20 years since I have listened to Contagious.

It's probably been over 20 seconds since I last thought of not smacking you upside the head.

Quote

3. Respect your fellow posters.

Personal attacks, or repeated artless attempts at flaming and/or flamebaiting will not be tolerated. Violators will get a maximum of three warnings before serious measures are taken into consideration (temp and perm bans, mainly).

Strike 1! ;D
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Post by: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 03:53:04 PM: Whatever. Listen to this guy:
Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
I didn't mind Contagious at all really.
He's not wolfking around.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2015, 04:30:08 PM: I find it very surprising that Y&T weren't a bigger band. Earthshaker, Mean Streak and Black Tiger is just a trilogy of awesome. To me, their sound almost defines the 80s decade. Their sound just screams 80s. With that being said, how they weren't better known in the 80s and are pretty much unknown today is one of rocks mysteries to me.

And I think Stryper sounds better then ever right now. They need to continue with the NMHTP sound.
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2015, 04:46:04 PM: ^
Agreed 100% on both points.
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Post by: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 04:54:29 PM: You have both curried favor with bosk1 the mighty. Thusly, he shall not smite you down at the present time.
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Post by: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 05:01:22 PM: (https://i.imgur.com/QVdGng5.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2015, 05:04:45 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
Whatever. Listen to this guy:
Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
I didn't mind Contagious at all really.
He's not wolfking around.

Nice.
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2015, 05:45:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2015, 05:04:45 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
Whatever. Listen to this guy:
Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
I didn't mind Contagious at all really.
He's not wolfking around.

Nice.
Umm..whatever.. ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on January 09, 2015, 03:57:59 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on January 05, 2015, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 05, 2015, 03:08:00 PM
Contagious was worse - it didn't have much in the way of decent songs. And that Hot For Teacher rip off - yuk.

Huh, interesting. I always felt that Contagious was a definite step up and then some. 5 really strong songs (the title track, Temptation,¹ Fight For Your Life, Rhythm Or Not, and Eyes of a Stranger), 3 pretty good ones (Armed and Dangerous, Bodily Harm, I'll Cry), and 2 okay ones.

And I never heard The Kid Goes Crazy described as a "Hot For Teacher rip off." But then again, the fact that I was able to tell exactly what song you were talking about just based on that description would tend to mean that, yeah, I guess I can hear that now that you mention it. :lol (But I will say that Jimmy's drum groove is a lot more complex than Alex VH's)

^1. And I only just now realized that Al Pitrelli co-wrote Temptation. Interesting. Back then, I had no idea who he was, and I haven't looked at the songwriting credits on that album in a LONG time.

I would put Armed & Dangerous, I'll Cry For You and Fight For Your Life in the good tier, Temptation and Contagious in the ok, and Rhythm or Not and Bodily Harm in the "pile of shite" category ;D
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Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2015, 03:56:58 AM: Damn!!! New Serious Black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcuoyGMrRuk

Grapow has been on fire lately, really looking forward to this one.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2015, 03:58:13 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 11, 2015, 03:56:58 AM
Damn!!! New Serious Black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcuoyGMrRuk

Grapow has been on fire lately, really looking forward to this one.

Me too...........and urban says this is the taster to a much better second album .
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Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2015, 04:17:57 AM: Sounding good man.

The chrous heavily reminds me of something else though, I can't get it though, the key change specifically.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2015, 10:34:10 AM: Has the clip been pulled?

Definitely looking forward to the Serious Black album.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 11, 2015, 01:47:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 11, 2015, 10:34:10 AM
Has the clip been pulled?

Definitely looking forward to the Serious Black album.

It's working for me.

Decent song if a bit by the numbers. Looking forward to it.
Enjoyed the Project Arkadia album from a few weeks ago. Urban was awesome on that.
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Post by: gazinwales on January 11, 2015, 02:27:11 PM: Seriously good!
Pretty good commercial rocker, some nice double bass drums and good riffs.
The singer I have never heard before and he seems to be a little underwhelming in comparison to the majestic sounds of the music.
Reminds me of Masterplan's second album, just a bit but this is a blind buy for me.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2015, 03:46:21 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 11, 2015, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 11, 2015, 10:34:10 AM
Has the clip been pulled?

Definitely looking forward to the Serious Black album.

It's working for me.

Decent song if a bit by the numbers. Looking forward to it.
Enjoyed the Project Arkadia album from a few weeks ago. Urban was awesome on that.
You recommended the PA album for me, and while I loved the vocals, the music was missing something. I guess I found it kind of generic. Serious Black sounds much better to me.
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Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2015, 06:37:49 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 11, 2015, 02:27:11 PM
Seriously good!
Pretty good commercial rocker, some nice double bass drums and good riffs.
The singer I have never heard before and he seems to be a little underwhelming in comparison to the majestic sounds of the music.
Reminds me of Masterplan's second album, just a bit but this is a blind buy for me.

I get a definite early Masterplan vibe from it too.

One of the comments revealed to me the song I was thinking of that the chorus reminded me of. It's Edguy's Ministry of Saints.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2015, 04:32:15 AM: I haven't done a mag cover in a while. Seeing as wolfie and I have been talking a bit of W.A.S.P. lately..............this is June 85/

(https://s12.postimg.org/cqerrd6l9/wasp.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2015, 04:34:38 AM: And Powerslave Maiden, good stuff.

WASP's original lineup was so damn good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2015, 08:17:55 AM: It was an awesome lineup!!

Did Chris leave because of drugs or due to the new direction of the band?
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Post by: TAC on January 12, 2015, 11:59:22 AM: Who the hell is Belfegore?? I do not remember them at all.
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Post by: TAC on January 12, 2015, 02:33:00 PM: The music world is "whole" again.

Autograph has been um.."reavtivated". :facepalm:
https://bravewords.com/news/reactivated-autograph-to-release-first-new-song-in-over-25-years-teaser-video-streaming
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2015, 03:00:40 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 12, 2015, 08:17:55 AM
It was an awesome lineup!!

Did Chris leave because of drugs or due to the new direction of the band?

I have no idea actually. Didn't Blackie and Chris have a falling out or something?
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2015, 07:55:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 12, 2015, 02:33:00 PM
The music world is "whole" again.

Autograph has been um.."reavtivated". :facepalm:
https://bravewords.com/news/reactivated-autograph-to-release-first-new-song-in-over-25-years-teaser-video-streaming

Decent band, but nothing that I would ever go out of my way to listen to though(unless watching Hot Tub Time Machine). No Steve Plunkett??
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 12, 2015, 08:10:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 12, 2015, 02:33:00 PM
The music world is "whole" again.

Autograph has been um.."reavtivated". :facepalm:
https://bravewords.com/news/reactivated-autograph-to-release-first-new-song-in-over-25-years-teaser-video-streaming

Never got into them aside from Turn Up the Radio. I didn't mind this song, it's in a style I'm interested in, so I'd give the album a listen. The production was a bit raw but not bad, and I liked the song, although the chorus phrasing brought it down a bit for me.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 13, 2015, 05:18:43 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 12, 2015, 11:59:22 AM
Who the hell is Belfegore?? I do not remember them at all.

When I Googled them a video came up for a single - one for the regular version and one for an Extended Club Mix. Sounds right up your alley - I suggest you get onto it pronto ;D
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Post by: TAC on January 14, 2015, 08:54:48 AM: Just did my 1986 list. Only slightly deeper than 1985.
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 14, 2015, 10:54:03 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 14, 2015, 08:54:48 AM
Just did my 1986 list. Only slightly deeper than 1985.

Are you sexing us up Tim?
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Post by: TAC on January 14, 2015, 10:59:01 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on January 14, 2015, 10:54:03 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 14, 2015, 08:54:48 AM
Just did my 1986 list. Only slightly deeper than 1985.

Are you sexing us up Tim?

Growth spurt!
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 14, 2015, 11:01:43 AM: And Graduation!

I'll have to look at 86 again. Great year for music for sure.
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Post by: TAC on January 14, 2015, 11:11:34 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on January 14, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
And Graduation!
YES!! :metal
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Post by: bosk1 on January 14, 2015, 12:07:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 14, 2015, 08:54:48 AM
Just did my 1986 list. Only slightly deeper than 1985.

Off the top of my head, 1986 was a pretty strong year.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 03:52:02 AM: 1986 was extremely strong IMO. It was the year where I seriously started buying music though , so I'm possibly a bit biased.

With the recent discussion around Jorn and his new project I remembered some old stuff of his that I stumbled onto many years ago and thought that , before I forget, I had better get these linked for posterity ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iklrkshmm5g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSatE5q77pc
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Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2015, 05:10:45 AM: That first link is absolutely incredible.

Jorn reminds me a bit of John Farnham with that short hair too.
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Post by: TAC on January 15, 2015, 05:24:48 AM: All I can say is WOW on both links. WTF?? :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2015, 05:46:25 AM: Awesome!
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Post by: TAC on January 15, 2015, 07:21:00 AM: What's tough about making these lists for the 80's is that while Brent has this great ratings system, I feel like I need to weight albums more that I was actually listening to in a given year.
Case in point is that in 1986, WASP's Inside The Electric Circus squeezes into the Top 10 because I loved this album back then. But Slayer's Reign In Blood is relegated to Honorable Mention status because in 1986, I didn't listen to it.
But since then, Reign In Blood has been far more played than Electric Circus.
Dilemma!!
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Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 07:29:04 AM: Everyone will have their own take on it but I'm basically trying to judge what were the best albums in hindsight.........what I like now , which means albums that were great back in the day but have aged terribly for me won't do so well. Fortunately (although others may disagree) there aren't too many that I liked back in the day that seem to have aged too badly.

1986 is going to be a bit of a dilemma though. Up to this point I don't think any of the years' Top 10's have had every album rated 90%+ and this will be the case in 1986 will numerous rating ties. So in this case I will think back and use "most influential" factors as a bit of a tie breaker.

Everyone will use their own criteria and that's cool.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2015, 11:15:32 AM: For those that were listening at the time, how controversial was "Turbo" in 1986? Or did it just get brushed off as a sign of the times without much issue?
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Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2015, 02:23:14 PM: Good question.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 15, 2015, 03:17:08 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 15, 2015, 11:15:32 AM
For those that were listening at the time, how controversial was "Turbo" in 1986? Or did it just get brushed off as a sign of the times without much issue?

In the UK it was seen as a bit of a sellout. It was certainly aimed at the US market. Even at the time I preferred it to Ram It Down. THere are some great tracks on boththose albums and they would have made one awesome JP album instead of 2 ok ones.
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Post by: gazinwales on January 15, 2015, 03:30:40 PM: Turbo was highly controversial at the time.
Some were called it a sell out, a strong minority called it innovation.

I haven't heard it in a long time now, so I don't know how it has survived and whether it sounds dated?
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Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2015, 05:16:44 PM: It's still a really great album IMO.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2015, 07:17:40 PM: It was the first Priest cd I bought if I recall correctly.

I remember reading a review from someone, who said that upon buying the record as a new release, he started crying lol. Seemed extreme, I think its a good disc.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 07:25:16 PM: I think I might have cried when I heard Van Halen 3 ;D Great tour though.
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Post by: gazinwales on January 15, 2015, 08:01:46 PM: Never bought VH3, but saw them live in Sydney on that tour.
The concert was shown live on MTV and there is a great bootleg on YT.

I like Gary Charone, his voice suited VH, but I went with a mate and he walked out after 3 songs.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 10:12:20 PM: I won't bother posting in the "favourite albums for each year since you were born" thread as it'll just spoil what I'm doing here. But for the record........prior to 1980 .........no real surprises.

1974: KISS:s/t
1975: KISS: Alive!
1976: KISS: Destroyer
1977: KISS: Love Gun
1978: Van Halen : Van Halen
1979: Van Halen :II

KISS dominated my early listening and was the only band I listened to from the age of 6 until 9 (1980-1983). Van Halen came along and took the reins in '84
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2015, 10:13:54 PM: Not a lot of diversity there, but I approve (even though Destroyer is mostly shit). :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 10:17:59 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
Not a lot of diversity there, but I approve (even though Destroyer is mostly shit). :biggrin:

I agree about Destroyer actually..........if not for Detroit Rock City , Shout It Out Loud and God Of Thunder I wouldn't bother. I've done this list off the top of my head and more up TAC's alley in terms of albums that influenced me back in the day. I haven't listened to every possible candidate "in the now" as I am for the 1980's+
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2015, 10:23:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
Not a lot of diversity there, but I approve (even though Destroyer is mostly shit). :biggrin:

I agree about Destroyer actually..........if not for Detroit Rock City , Shout It Out Loud and God Of Thunder I wouldn't bother.

Agreed on those. Those tracks are great, but the rest often deviated too far from the straight ahead rock they're best at.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2015, 11:06:00 PM: Van Halen 1 & 2 are just classic albums.

Van Halen 3..............yikes
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Post by: bl5150 on January 16, 2015, 06:10:05 AM: Grapow's already been ruled out of the debut Serious Black tour due to health issues (tinnitus) , as has their drummer Thomen with back issues. Off to a great start :-\ Bob Katsionis will be Grapow's replacement for the tour.
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 16, 2015, 06:15:51 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
Not a lot of diversity there, but I approve (even though Destroyer is mostly shit). :biggrin:

Does kingshmegland have to smack a bitch?
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Post by: bosk1 on January 16, 2015, 07:03:08 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on January 16, 2015, 06:15:51 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
Not a lot of diversity there, but I approve (even though Destroyer is mostly shit). :biggrin:

Does kingshmegland have to smack a bitch?

Only if it's me! :caffeine:

Wait...
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 16, 2015, 07:14:43 AM: *Rub's hands in an evil manor*
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Post by: TAC on January 16, 2015, 02:17:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 10:12:20 PM
1974: KISS
1975: KISS
1976: KISS
1977: KISS
1978: Van Halen
1979: Van Halen
And you made fun of me?? :lol

Regarding Destroyer, I have never liked God Of Thunder. Don't care for it at all. And Great Expectations..WTF? Thanks Ezrin. :yeahright
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Post by: bl5150 on January 16, 2015, 07:11:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 16, 2015, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 10:12:20 PM
1974: KISS
1975: KISS
1976: KISS
1977: KISS
1978: Van Halen
1979: Van Halen
And you made fun of me?? :lol

Regarding Destroyer, I have never liked God Of Thunder. Don't care for it at all. And Great Expectations..WTF? Thanks Ezrin. :yeahright

I HATED God of Thunder as a kid but have grown to like it - it took a while. I think I realised that anything half decent by Gene should be cherished. :D

As for my choices , I thought you might bring that up. ;D I really only knew those two bands at the time , so it's in that spirit - and come to think of it there were barely a dozen or so half decent hard rock/metal albums released in most of those years , so not much to choose from. Van Halen and KISS didn't have much competition :P
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Post by: Lowdz on January 17, 2015, 03:38:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 16, 2015, 07:11:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 16, 2015, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 10:12:20 PM
1974: KISS
1975: KISS
1976: KISS
1977: KISS
1978: Van Halen
1979: Van Halen
And you made fun of me?? :lol

Regarding Destroyer, I have never liked God Of Thunder. Don't care for it at all. And Great Expectations..WTF? Thanks Ezrin. :yeahright

I HATED God of Thunder as a kid but have grown to like it - it took a while. I think I realised that anything half decent by Gene should be cherished. :D

As for my choices , I thought you might bring that up. ;D I really only knew those two bands at the time , so it's in that spirit - and come to think of it there were barely a dozen or so half decent hard rock/metal albums released in most of those years , so not much to choose from. Van Halen and KISS didn't have much competition :P

Although it was written by Paul :o
I like the song but I prefer the faster live version from Alive II. The faster pace suits it better for me.
I like Destroyer. It was different of course but still a good album. It's not top tier or anything.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 17, 2015, 05:34:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 16, 2015, 07:11:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 16, 2015, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 15, 2015, 10:12:20 PM
1974: KISS
1975: KISS
1976: KISS
1977: KISS
1978: Van Halen
1979: Van Halen
And you made fun of me?? :lol

Regarding Destroyer, I have never liked God Of Thunder. Don't care for it at all. And Great Expectations..WTF? Thanks Ezrin. :yeahright

I HATED God of Thunder as a kid but have grown to like it - it took a while. I think I realised that anything half decent by Gene should be cherished. :D

As for my choices , I thought you might bring that up. ;D I really only knew those two bands at the time , so it's in that spirit - and come to think of it there were barely a dozen or so half decent hard rock/metal albums released in most of those years , so not much to choose from. Van Halen and KISS didn't have much competition :P

I will pretty much always pick Paul songs over Gene; but I will say that Gene sang three of my all time favorite Kiss tunes- "God of Thunder", "War Machine" and "Not for the Innocent"
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Post by: TAC on January 17, 2015, 06:52:49 PM: My favorite Gene sung songs:
Parasite (I know it's Ace's)
Watchin' You
Naked City
Larger Than Life
X Ray Eyes

And I know I'm in the minority on Asylum, but it really is one of my favorite Kiss albums.
Gene's songs are great, considering how un into the band he was
Trial BY Fire
Any Way You Slice It
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 17, 2015, 06:55:37 PM: Watchin You would be number four for me from Gene
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 17, 2015, 08:51:02 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 17, 2015, 03:38:56 PM
Although it was written by Paul :o
I like the song but I prefer the faster live version from Alive II. The faster pace suits it better for me.
I like Destroyer. It was different of course but still a good album. It's not top tier or anything.

I hate the Alive II versions of everything, because they're all too fast and lose the groove (especially Calling Dr Love, which never sounded good live with either Criss or Carr).
But the demo version of God of Thunder with Paul is very cool. Paul's demos always sounded so complete and album ready as is.
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 17, 2015, 08:54:03 PM: I was doing my Gene Simmons singing to whatever came on my I-pod today on our long drive to get my wife to yell or laugh at me. She (Pun intended) hates his voice.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 17, 2015, 08:56:11 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on January 17, 2015, 08:54:03 PM
I was doing my Gene Simmons singing to whatever came on my I-pod today on our long drive to get my wife to yell or laugh at me. She (Pun intended) hates his voice.

Gene's actually got a pretty good voice when he tries. A lot of his Alive II era singing isn't so good though, and my brother and I often jokingly sing the "HEY HEY HEY" bi from Love 'Em Leave 'Em. :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 17, 2015, 08:58:21 PM: I did 2 things to drive her nuts Blob. I sang the over pronunciation at the end of the words Simmons & The live, I'm gargling glass Simmons to any ballads that came on from my I-pod Shuffle. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 17, 2015, 09:49:03 PM: I'm surprised you like Naked City as much as that TAC - I love it too but thought it might be a bit too "pop" sounding for your taste.

FWIW I just had my first listen to the Serious Black. Very,very solid album. Breed as usual has some great soaring choruses , but the music (like a lot of Grapow's stuff) I find is very good but pretty typical power metal and not particularly memorable. It's missing those few absolutely brilliant tracks/melodies to take it over the top.

Still........I don't want to undersell it either. It IS very good and I rate it 84%.
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Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2015, 04:30:54 AM: Good score for you.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 18, 2015, 04:11:20 PM: Got myself some time with a "review copy" of Sweet/Lynch for today,so will be giving that a good listen :xbones

And at first listen I rate it 80%. I had been a bit wary (having read some poor reviews) but it's a good album. I'd say it's more like a Sweet solo album with Lynch in the backing band - I certainly wouldn't say that Lynch is "all over it."

And at 12 tracks - as is often the case these days - it's about 4 tracks too long. Take away the four weakest tracks and it's more an 86%. Anyhow - I think you guys who are fans of Sweet can buy this knowing that you'll at least really like 3 or 4 tracks.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 18, 2015, 07:08:17 PM: From what Ive heard from the Sweet/Lynch, it seemed a little too mid tempo........hopefully there are some heavier tracks
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Post by: bl5150 on January 18, 2015, 07:27:16 PM: You're right J - it does drag a bit by the end. It gets its 80% from me due to 3 or 4 really top tracks but by tracks 11-12 I was getting a bit bored.

I think this may be your best bet (Recover) .........stream it at the link.

https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/sweetlynch/updates/44797?utm_campaign=project9908&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pledgemusic
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 18, 2015, 07:50:16 PM: "recover" is a good one
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Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2015, 04:31:43 AM: Any guitar work from Sweet do you think Brent?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2015, 04:37:03 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 19, 2015, 04:31:43 AM
Any guitar work from Sweet do you think Brent?

Not that was obvious , but I was listening while working and really just concentrating on how much I dug the riffs and melodies etc.........having said that I'm pretty certain that Lynch handled the vast majority or all of the lead work. There may have been some sharing on the rhythm stuff. I'll pay more attention to that sort of detail on subsequent listens.
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Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2015, 04:49:05 AM: Yeah, I didn't think Lynch would be doing much guitar work. A shame.
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Post by: TAC on January 19, 2015, 05:11:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 17, 2015, 09:49:03 PM
I'm surprised you like Naked City as much as that TAC - I love it too but thought it might be a bit too "pop" sounding for your taste.
Yeah, but I do like it, and I think Tomorrow is one of Kiss' all time best songs. The only other song I like on Unmasked is Easy As It Seems. Yes, very poppy.

But overall, Unmasked is easily Kiss' worst album.
Edit: I'd still take it over Carnival Of Souls.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 19, 2015, 06:11:51 PM: Carnival of Souls blah
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 19, 2015, 06:59:35 PM: Neither are particularly good albums, but Carnival of Souls still has a few ok songs that are at least in the ballpark of rock/metal. Unmasked doesn't really have anything I've ever gone out of my way to listen to.

But I think I'm splitting hairs. Both albums are KISS trying too hard to conform to what was popular and deviating too far from the hard rock they do best.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2015, 07:41:13 PM: I rate Unmasked as a lower mid tier album for them - different but plenty of songs to like. A bit like Crazy Nights - I use the skip button a lot but the tracks I like I really like.

Carnival of Souls is just dire IMO and I can't believe the fuss I went through to get the bootleg at the time. (long before its official release it was a real collectors item) I seem to remember listening to it for the first time out of the back of some guy's car stereo while we were camped out for "Farewell Tour" tickets............the farewell that's still to reach its conclusion that is. :)
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Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2015, 09:05:07 PM: I'm pretty much done with 1986 guys - just a few days making sure no obscure gems have slipped through the cracks and we'll be done.

EDIT:make that the end of the week...............just found another 30 albums I missed :) :-\ Prolific period this was.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2015, 04:32:01 AM: Check out this new 'box set; from Malmsteen

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2015/01/20/yngwie-malmsteens-polydor-years-celebrated-new-box-set

haha, is this a joke?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2015, 04:34:54 AM: If I bought that off the shelf /ordered sight unseen and discovered that...........well I'd unleash the fucking fury ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 20, 2015, 04:36:02 AM: Who splits up albums across CD's like that? What a pain that would be to listen to just one album, especially in the digital age.
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Post by: Bolsters on January 20, 2015, 04:38:50 AM: That's more than likely the stupidest album box set I've ever seen.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2015, 07:28:41 AM: The 2 bonus tracks on Marching Out are cool I guess
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Post by: Lowdz on January 21, 2015, 01:26:08 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 20, 2015, 04:36:02 AM
Who splits up albums across CD's like that? What a pain that would be to listen to just one album, especially in the digital age.

I've got the Chrysallis UFO and Schenker album sets like this and it's a pain in the arse.
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2015, 04:30:46 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 20, 2015, 07:28:41 AM
The 2 bonus tracks on Marching Out are cool I guess

It's a bit weird that these are the only 2 extra tracks.
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2015, 09:00:00 AM: Kade/Brent, is this anywhere near you guys?
https://bravewords.com/news/ronnie-james-dio-the-legend-of-dio-a-metal-musical-to-see-world-premier-in-australia-this-march
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Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2015, 09:04:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 21, 2015, 09:00:00 AM
Kade/Brent, is this anywhere near you guys?
https://bravewords.com/news/ronnie-james-dio-the-legend-of-dio-a-metal-musical-to-see-world-premier-in-australia-this-march

About a half hour's drive from my place - seen a number of gigs at that venue..........JSS , Planet X , Mike Tramp and numerous others I can't remember.
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2015, 09:05:00 AM: Cool, will you be submitting a report on this? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2015, 09:07:22 AM: I'll look into it - I don't really know any other Dio fans so I'd be going by myself if I did and I won't do that unless I know it's gunna be good. I'll look into who is putting it on - never heard of 'em.

If I go , I'll submit a report ;D
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2015, 11:00:44 AM: Just ordered my tickets!!!!!!

(https://cdn.ticketfly.com/i/00/01/34/39/35-emd.jpg)

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 21, 2015, 11:25:54 AM: What a bill!! :metal
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Post by: Calvin6s on January 21, 2015, 05:21:05 PM: Immortal Randy Rhoads (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNNgFll2lwQ)

Is it wrong that I find this to be a total train wreck?

The worst (and best) is 1/2 of Rage Against the Machine playing Crazy Train. They should have had the full RATM band. They tried a happy medium between honoring the original and trying to add their own style and it was the worst of both worlds. They should have gone full Rage. Probably would have been the best song on the album.

Ripper Owens singing Ozzy .... BLECH
:metal
:police:
:blush
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2015, 05:22:50 PM: There's nothing about this that is remotely interesting for me. And I love Randy Rhoads.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2015, 07:37:03 PM: I was interested in this until I read that Ripper Owens was singing most of the tracks. This EPK fully confirms that. Dude can't sing well, and he's doing his best Ozzy impersonation here, and it sounds like a send-up.

There are a lot of good musicians on this, but I have no reason to want this. The studio versions blow all of these recordings away, and it offers nothing new.
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Post by: Calvin6s on January 21, 2015, 08:37:12 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
The studio versions blow all of these recordings away
Damn right. Playing a Rhoads era Ozzy song is great fun, but recording it for a professional release? What's the point unless you are going to do something dramatically different with it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2015, 09:10:59 PM: Quote from: Calvin6s on January 21, 2015, 08:37:12 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
The studio versions blow all of these recordings away
Damn right. Playing a Rhoads era Ozzy song is great fun, but recording it for a professional release? What's the point unless you are going to do something dramatically different with it.

For a one off cover, I'm usually more for sticking to the originals, but for a whole album, you really have to do something different with it.
I think the problem is that these aren't played by bands, they're done by a bunch of good musicians in more of a session musician situation, so I don't think there's as much opportunity to put their mark on it as a whole.

I like something more like the Black Sabbath Nativity in Black albums, where the bands are playing the songs in their own signature style, and they manage to add something new without needing to try too hard to be different. You don't get a lot of that when you just get a bunch of random musicians to record some tracks to put together.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 02:04:01 AM: Well I've had my first listen to the Jorn Lande Dracula album and it's very good. I normally struggle with albums where I'm being told a story throughout as IMHO the songs rarely stack up in their own right. I hate it when I feel the song has been compromised to shoe horn in certain lyrics to fit with the story - I'm in the minority but that's why I've never enjoyed SFAM much. "You need to appreciate it as a whole" works for some people but not for me I'm afraid.

Anyway...........this album has a bit of that but the songs themselves stand on their own two feet very well and so I didn't find the "metal opera" style an issue. It's not in the league of a Mindrime or Crimson Idol in terms of having numerous songs that I'll return to on a regular basis but it is consistently good and has a couple of real rippers.

I rate it 90% on first listen and would recommend it to all fans of Jorn Lande

In fact on the strength of this album I'm happy to stop calling him Yawn Lande for a while .........at least until his next plodding solo album ;D .
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2015, 04:12:03 AM: 90%!! Holy shit!
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Post by: Bolsters on January 22, 2015, 04:15:19 AM: I wouldn't rate it that highly, but I thought it was pretty good aswell.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 22, 2015, 04:17:39 AM: I place no value on a rating given in the same post as one deriding SFAM. Sorry. :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2015, 04:25:01 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBE1gyRh4gk

Samples of the new JSS album.

I slagged this on the first samples, but I actually don't mind some of these samples. It's pretty one dimensional for JSS, but sounds solid enough.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2015, 04:27:18 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 21, 2015, 09:00:00 AM
Kade/Brent, is this anywhere near you guys?
https://bravewords.com/news/ronnie-james-dio-the-legend-of-dio-a-metal-musical-to-see-world-premier-in-australia-this-march

2 States away for me.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2015, 04:37:30 AM: That Randy tribute doesn't do much for me either. I love Ripper but these songs aren't really made for him. Sucks that it seems that Bob Kulick only is doing rhythm guitar too. His lead work with WASP was amazing.

If anyone wants to hear some good Ozzy covers done a bit differently, check out Living Loud. Jimmy Barnes, Steve Morse, Bob Daisley, Lee Kerslake and Don Airey;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4QkVypcr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbptn9x5sUs
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 04:39:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 22, 2015, 04:37:30 AM
Bob Kulick only is doing rhythm guitar too. His lead work with WASP was amazing.

You sure about that? ;D Pretty much all the best solos on The Crimson Idol were done (uncredited) by Doug Aldrich. Have a listen and the style is unmistakable.

I remember thinking "Shit ,Bob Kulick got good in a hurry" back in the day myself , but it didn't take long for the lightbulb to switch on.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2015, 04:45:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 04:39:35 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 22, 2015, 04:37:30 AM
Bob Kulick only is doing rhythm guitar too. His lead work with WASP was amazing.

You sure about that? ;D Pretty much all the best solos on The Crimson Idol were done (uncredited) by Doug Aldrich. Have a listen and the style is unmistakable.

I remember thinking "Shit ,Bob Kulick got good in a hurry" back in the day myself , but it didn't take long for the lightbulb to switch on.

What the fuck?

(https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/09/mind_blown.gif)

You for real bro? I have never heard this.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 04:49:00 AM: Just have a listen -now that your mind is open to the possibility of it being Doug it'll be obvious. He did most of the leads on House of Lords' Sahara too without much credit.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2015, 04:51:52 AM: I don't know, I'm not really familiar with Doug's playing around that time, but I can't hear it to be honest, but I will have another listen. Also, the guitar playing between Crimson Idol and Still Not Black Enough is easy to tell it's a similar style.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 04:55:39 AM: Fair enough - I've been a fan of Doug since Jesus was a pup and I can guarantee you it's him on a few tracks. It's hard to find confirmation but I did track down an interview where Doug confirmed it.

The second half of Arena of Pleasure for instance - I can guarantee Bob Kulick cannot play like this and it's so obviously Doug - to me , anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk5cZMMXQmc#t=129
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2015, 04:56:36 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 04:55:39 AM
Fair enough - I've been a fan of Doug since Jesus was a pup and I can guarantee you it's him on a number of tracks

The second half of Arena of Pleasure for instance - I can guarantee Bob Kulick cannot play like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk5cZMMXQmc#t=129

I just flicked through a few tracks, and yeah, the middle solo of Arena of Pleasure I can definitely hear it.

EDIT: yeah, that's the one.

All I could find was this;

https://www.legendaryrockinterviews.com/2014/01/26/kiss-kontributor-and-studioguitar-guru-bob-kulick-i-remember-thinking-is-there-anybody-who-could-really-think-thats-ace-playing-really/
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 05:05:51 AM: Been a while since I listened to it -perhaps that's the only solo that impressed me. ;D Will have a listen later and see if I detect Doug anywhere else. But that solo in Arena of Pleasure is the one that sticks in my mind from that album and I did originally think it was Bob Kulick (as you would , as it says it's Kulick on the notes)
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2015, 05:14:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 04:39:35 AM

Pretty much all the best solos on The Crimson Idol were done (uncredited) by Doug Aldrich.
That's very interesting. Shit, I didn't even know Bob Kulick played for WASP. Didn't follow them after Electric Circus. I think I did buy The Headless Children, but I think I was pretty much finished with WASP at that point.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 22, 2015, 04:17:39 AM
I place no value on a rating given in the same post as one deriding SFAM. Sorry. :biggrin:
:lol

Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 02:04:01 AM
Well I've had my first listen to the Jorn Lande Dracula album and it's very good.
I do not consider myself a Jorn guy, but I liked they song they released last week. I might be interested in this.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 05:17:14 AM: The Headless Children is a ripper..............made my top 10. Was a tough choice between that and the debut but there's a more serious/political focus to a lot of the lyrics and a bit more thought in the songwriting which perhaps helped it age a touch better. I think The Headless Children and The Crimson Idol are far better albums than Electric Circus - I love the title track on that but the rest is just solid IMO.
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2015, 05:37:48 AM: Yes, the title track to Electric Circus is amazing. What a great way to open the album.

I guess WASP was fun enough while I was in high school. But when I went to college their shtick didn't really appeal to me anymore. It's ironic that at the time I dropped WASP because of it, was the same time that Blackie seemed to have gotten serious.
The next major haul I make, I really need to make sure I get both The Headless Children and The Crimson Idol. I have heard really great things about The Crimson idol, but I haven't heard a lick from it.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 05:45:17 AM: Eeeeee-lec-tricity to burn :metal
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2015, 05:58:56 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 05:45:17 AM
Eeeeee-lec-tricity to burn :metal
:metal :metal

Just the whole musical beginning to it gave me goosebumps. Unfortunately I never saw them. I have no recollection of them playing here.
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Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2015, 04:24:44 AM: THC is probably the next best WASP album after Crimson Idol. It really is a killer album from start to finish, and the bonus tracks are just as good. Solid metal.

Electric Circus is a funny one. I think the songs are pretty strong, but doesn't really have the lasting impact like Headless Children. I'm Alive and Restless Gypsy are two of my fav WASP tracks though.

Am I the only one in thinking that The Last Command is the weakest pre-90's WASP album?
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Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2015, 04:38:40 AM: New Level 10 doing a pretty decent Whitesnake impression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02NNqNocpY0
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 23, 2015, 05:22:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 23, 2015, 04:38:40 AM
New Level 10 doing a pretty decent Whitesnake impression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02NNqNocpY0

1987, at least. I'm digging his vocals here, music is ok. This might be one to check out, depending on how much diversity there is on the rest of the album.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2015, 02:12:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 23, 2015, 04:24:44 AM
THC is probably the next best WASP album after Crimson Idol. It really is a killer album from start to finish, and the bonus tracks are just as good. Solid metal.

Electric Circus is a funny one. I think the songs are pretty strong, but doesn't really have the lasting impact like Headless Children. I'm Alive and Restless Gypsy are two of my fav WASP tracks though.

Am I the only one in thinking that The Last Command is the weakest pre-90's WASP album?

It would be between TEC and TLC for me. Best bits of both would be a great album though.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2015, 02:14:36 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 23, 2015, 02:12:55 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 23, 2015, 04:24:44 AM

It would be between TEC and TLC for me. Best bits of both would be a great album though.

Ditto
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Post by: bosk1 on January 23, 2015, 02:23:01 PM: I don't hear Whitesnake in that, but it sounds good. The singer reminds me a LOT of Russell Allen.
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Post by: El Barto on January 23, 2015, 02:25:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 22, 2015, 05:58:56 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 05:45:17 AM
Eeeeee-lec-tricity to burn :metal
:metal :metal

Just the whole musical beginning to it gave me goosebumps. Unfortunately I never saw them. I have no recollection of them playing here.
Really? They opened up the World Slavery tour down here, as well as some KISS album and they toured with Slayer on Reign in Blood.
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Post by: TAC on January 23, 2015, 02:38:02 PM: Quote from: El Barto on January 23, 2015, 02:25:19 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 22, 2015, 05:58:56 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2015, 05:45:17 AM
Eeeeee-lec-tricity to burn :metal
:metal :metal

Just the whole musical beginning to it gave me goosebumps. Unfortunately I never saw them. I have no recollection of them playing here.
Really? They opened up the World Slavery tour down here, as well as some KISS album and they toured with Slayer on Reign in Blood.

Twisted Sister opened for Maiden in Worcester in Jan 85 (I didn't go), and Accept opened in Providence in June. Saw that!

For Kiss the openers were:
Lick It Up-Accept
Animlize-Queensryche (I might have those two mixed up)
Asylum-Black n Blue
Crazy Nights-Ted Nugent

I honestly don't remember who played with Slayer on the RiB tour. It was a club show and I didn't go.

I want to say that WASP played the Vet's Coliseum in Providence for the Electric Circus, but I do not have a firm recollection of it.
WASP also may have played some club shows for the first two albums, of course I was too young to go, but again, I don't remember. Actually, I kind of remember them playing The Living Room for their first album, now that I think of it, but I was only 15! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2015, 03:54:08 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on January 23, 2015, 02:23:01 PM
I don't hear Whitesnake in that, but it sounds good. The singer reminds me a LOT of Russell Allen.

It is Russell Allen.
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 04:15:37 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCPAa21O6tc&feature=youtu.be

man, this new TMac material is sounding good.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 04:53:52 AM: Listening to my last 1986 album as I type..................................*collapses and ears fall off

Should have the summary up tomorrow.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 09:21:15 AM: 1986.............what a year! Once again I seriously underestimated the number of albums I would need to get my head around. I rated at least 100 albums properly and probably checked out and discarded another 50-60.

I consider myself fortunate that 1986 (age 12) was the year that my music collection first grew wings. Up to then I had listened exclusively to KISS (mostly) and Van Halen , along with some bits and pieces of my father's collection (Dire Straits, Doobies etc...) By the end of 1986 my collection included stuff from Ozzy, Malmsteen, Dokken, Jovi, Europe, Def leppard and so on.

I mentioned in my Top 50 that there was a particular VHS tape that I literally played to death and on it we had the group of four songs from Van Halen's debut recorded "live" at The Whiskey with DLR in his red silk get up. After that on the tape was an Ozzy video that really took my love for the guitar to the next level. Jake :heart Dat solo got played over and over and over in 1986............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f80hOOcUh54#t=161

Anyway..........the Top 10.

I'm pretty certain that this is the only year so far where every album in my Top 10 has a 90%+ rating......in fact a few 90% ratings missed the cut , which makes them very unlucky losers. As far as the rankings go , you could pretty much rearrange the top eight any way you like and I'd find it hard to argue. I have ranked using a combination of my % rating (there are many ties) along with the influence they had on me at the time. One little anomaly is that I ranked The Final Countdown much higher than Slippery When Wet in my Top 50 and have reversed them here. At the time I did my top 50 I felt that The Final Countdown was the more influential album (just) and it was also combined in that listing with Norum's Face The Truth ,which adds a lot of weight. In the end I decided that after my recent listening that SWW has aged a lot better than TFC and thus received a higher % score. We're really splitting hairs here though with the rankings.

I'm sure my number one will get plenty of :facepalm: .........and maybe a couple of :metal ;D

TOP 10 ALBUMS OF 1986

1.Ozzy Osbourne   : The Ultimate Sin (TIE)
1. Van Halen :5150 (TIE)
3. Bon Jovi   :Slippery When Wet
4. Europe:The Final Countdown
5. Queensryche:   Rage for Order
6 Metallica :Master of Puppets
7 Tesla: Mechanical Resonance
8. David Lee Roth:Eat Em and Smile
9. Waysted   :Save Your Prayers
10. Cinderella: Night Songs

Missed by a bee's dick :

Yngwie Malmsteen: Trilogy
Keel: The Final Frontier
Great White: Shot In The Dark
Ratt: Dancing Undercover

Made the squad but not the team

TT Quick :Metal of Honor
Triumph :Sport of Kings
Helloise :Polarity
Black n Blue :Nasty Nasty
Dio :   Intermission (Expanded boot)
Black Sabbath :Seventh Star
Fate : A Matter of Attitude
Stryper :To Hell With The Devil
Fifth Angel :Fifth Angel
Hawk: Hawk
Rough Cutt    :…..Wants You
Zebra: 3.V
Warlock :True As Steel
Killer Dwarfs :Stand tall
Kuni   :Masque
King Kobra :Thrill of a Lifetime
Judas Priest :Turbo
Sword :Metalized
Alice Cooper :Constrictor
Vinnie Vincent Invasion :s/t
Iron Maiden :Somewhere In Time
Tarot   : Spell of Iron
Giuffria :Silk and Steel
Quiet Riot :III
M.A.R.S:   Project Driver
Q5: When The Mirror Cracks
Vinnie Moore :Mind's Eye
Brighton Rock :   Young Wild and Free
Metal Church: The Dark
Racer X :Street Lethal
Gary Moore: We Want Moore
Rhett Forrester :   Gone With The Wind
Jack Starr's Burning Starr :No Turning Back
Tyran Pace :Watching You
Tysondog :   Crimes of Insanity
Obsession   : Scarred For Life

As before I used an 80% cut off for the HMs. Many of the more obvious omissions (Megadeth, Accept etc...) were high 70 scores and so just missed the HM cutoff.

Events of note during 1986 ..................first album by Van Hagar and sadly the deaths of Phil Lynott and Cliff Burton. Metal Hammer makes its debut on newsstands.

Fire away...........as before I will take a break for a week or two before looking into 1987 which I imagine will be a similar sized operation.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2015, 09:27:17 AM: Brent, this is first post since you joined DTF that is officially...wrong. :police:

I don't even know where to begin.. Will post later once I disconnect from my defribulator. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 09:29:35 AM: ;D I warned you that they'd get more "wrong" once hair metal hit the scene ...........the top 4 I'm sure ain't your cuppa tea. I didn't think I'd upset you that much though :omg: :P

Enjoy your electrical surge :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2015, 09:33:53 AM: 5150, Slippery When Wet, and MoP are all correct choices for top spots. The Ultimate Sin is a solid album, but it really doesn't have the essential tracks to compete with those, although it would still definitely make my top 10.

Still a very cool top 10 list. :tup
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 09:40:49 AM: OK..................I admit it.

(https://gregtaylor.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/fonzie-effusion21.jpg)

sorry..........doesn't compute ;D
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2015, 09:41:43 AM: :rollin

Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 09:29:35 AM
...........the top 4 I'm sure ain't your cuppa tea.
Not at all. :lol

But at least I respect Slippery. That album basically shaped the rest of the decade, and there would really be no popular/commercially successful hair metal scene without it. I'm fine with that pick. I had the other three. I thought Europe was just OK. Didn't do much for me, but for me, The Ultimate Sin and 5150 just did not work. I will say that 5150 has actually aged fairly well, but I'd put the DLR a mile above it.
Although VH ultimately won the war, DLR won that first battle. His tour was more like a Van Halen show that um..Van Halen.

I actually really liked the Cinderella. Saw them open for Bon Jovi on this tour. It was a solid classic Aerosmith style album. Also saw DLR and Tesla paired together in Jan 87.

Tesla was easily new band of the year. They put out a monster debut.

Glad to see Waysted make your list. Was not a fan of them going "American" but Danny Vaughan won me over with a fantastic performance.

Here's my list:
Metallica-Master Of Puppets
Tesla-Mechanical Resonance
Accept-Russian Roulette
Iron Maiden-Somehwre In Time
Waysted-Save Your Prayers
Alice Cooper-Constrictor
Queensryche-Rage For Order
Motorhead-Orgasmatron
Megadeth-Peace Sells
WASP-Inside The Electric Circus

Honorable Mentions:
David Lee Roth-Eat 'Em And Smile
Flotsam And Jetsam-Doomsday For The Deceiver
Slayer-Reign In Blood
Fifth Angel-s/t
Fates Warning-Awaken The Guardian
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 09:51:28 AM: So aside from the top 4 we're not too far apart.

All of the albums bar Motorhead and Slayer got a listen from me ........those two bands just do zero for me aside from some fantastic song titles (Killed By Death being hall of fame material).

Of those that didn't make my list ........well you know how much I love WASP but that album is pretty patchy IMO , aside from the awesome title track (as I think we discussed the other day).

There was only two tracks on the Flotsam and Jetsam that I liked and I was surprised how much I didn't like Awaken The Guardian. Just did zero for me.

Iron Maiden (not a band I've ever been a huge fan of) did make my HMs............Megadeth and Accept I liked but just not quite enough. Constrictor made my HM , as did Fifth Angel.
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Post by: bosk1 on January 27, 2015, 10:39:34 AM: STRONG year. I really had a tough time ranking many of the top 8. But the last two are, IMO, much weaker, and included only to fill out the top 10.

1. Rage for Order (Queensryche): I wasn't a Queensryche fan at the time, but once I got into them, I got into them big time, and I still hold this album in VERY high esteem.
2. To Hell With the Devil (Stryper): I just about wore this tape out. To me, Stryper typified the '80s pattern of having some strong songs and some filler on pretty much every album. But the strong songs on this one are among their best ever, and, really, there are only a couple of songs I would consider filler on this one. It is not only their most consistent album with fewer valleys, but has higher peaks as well.
3. Somewhere In Time (Maiden): Given how late I got into Maiden (last year), it almost seems wrong to rank one of their albums so high. But the thing is, I did like the "hits" I heard back then, and I now consider it such a strong album that I can't NOT rank it so high.
4. Master of Puppets (Metallica): This was my first real exposure to Metallica. I couldn't say I was a fan at the time, but a friend of mine had the album, and it constantly intrigued me. Once I did become what I would consider a "fan" of their music, this one rose to the top.
5. 5150 (Van Halen): Van Halen's best album. Yeah, I said it.
6. Slippery When Wet (Bon Jovi): I was a big Bon Jovi fan at the time (had been since the debut, actually), and this was obviously a strong album. Wanted is still an all-time favorite song. And Ritchie's solos throughout the album...Man!
7. Night Songs (Cinderella): Their first two albums were brilliant. I hold Long, Cold Winter in higher esteem, as it really has the band starting to break a bit away from the mainstream and really showcase their own sound. But I still think this one is pretty solid.
8. Mechanical Resonance (Tesla): Pretty strong debut. I remember liking the Modern Day Cowboy video on MTV, but it wasn't until I was blown away seeing them open for Def Leppard that I really took notice.
9. Dancing Undercover (Ratt): This is where things start to trail off for me. I liked this album well enough at the time. And it definitely has some good hooks. Just not strong enough that it feels right in a "top __" list. But it is what it is.
10. Look What the Cat Dragged In (Poison): Um...can we just go with a top 9?

Honorable mentions that do not fit the genre:
-Depeche Mode: Black Celebration
-Huey Lewis: Fore!
-Siouxsie & the Banshees: Tinderbox

And this may be the only time I feel the need to list this category, but:
-Biggest disappointment: Journey: Raised on Radio
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 27, 2015, 10:49:45 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 09:51:28 AM

All of the albums bar Motorhead and Slayer got a listen from me ........those two bands just do zero for me aside from some fantastic song titles (Killed By Death being hall of fame material).

Orgasmatron was a fresh start for Motorhead. It's my favorite album by them, and really the only Motorhead album that I continuie to listen to. The title track is :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 12:41:15 PM: That Iced Earth was in 86?

Good list overall, missing WASP, Crimson Glory, and Barren Cross that would make my list.

Great to see Sword and Fifth Angel. Two unknown gems!!
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 12:45:15 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 12:41:15 PM
That Iced Earth was in 86?

Good list overall, missing WASP, Crimson Glory, and Barren Cross that would make my list.

Great to see Sword and Fifth Angel. Two unknown gems!!

The Iced Earth somehow came across in the cut and paste ,that was 1991.

WASP and Crimson Glory were mid 70's rated............two of my fave bands though. If memory serves correct I knocked down the rating on the Crimson Glory on my latest listen. The mighty Transcendence of course made my Top50.

The Barren Cross I did listen to but , as per usual with them , I really liked 2 or 3 tracks and thought the rest was mostly filler. He always does a great Bruce impression ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 27, 2015, 12:59:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 12:45:15 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 12:41:15 PM
That Iced Earth was in 86?

The Iced Earth somehow came across in the cut and paste ,that was 1991.
Now that's what I call an album being ahead of its time! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 02:41:14 PM: I love how The Ultimate Sin is at number 1. Best Ozzy album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 02:45:49 PM: I would like to see The Ultimate Sin get re-released like the other Ozzy albums. But I guess Ozzy likes to forget that it exists
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 02:51:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 02:45:49 PM
I would like to see The Ultimate Sin get re-released like the other Ozzy albums. But I guess Ozzy likes to forget that it exists

I seriously can't understand why.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2015, 03:40:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 02:41:14 PM
I love how The Ultimate Sin is at number 1. Best Ozzy album.
:facepalm:

I know we've talked about this many times. I just cannot believe that after Blizzard, Diary, and BATM, how anyone on their right mind could think so. With all due respect, bro.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 03:43:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2015, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 02:41:14 PM
I love how The Ultimate Sin is at number 1. Best Ozzy album.
:facepalm:

I know we've talked about this many times. I just cannot believe that after Blizzard, Diary, and BATM, how anyone on their right mind could think so. With all due respect, bro.

I can understand what you are saying. Diary and Blizard would both be a close second and third, but TUS just does it for me that little bit more.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2015, 03:45:53 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2015, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 02:41:14 PM
I love how The Ultimate Sin is at number 1. Best Ozzy album.
:facepalm:

I know we've talked about this many times. I just cannot believe that after Blizzard, Diary, and BATM, how anyone on their right mind could think so. With all due respect, bro.

I can understand what you are saying. Diary and Blizard would both be a close second and third, but TUS just does it for me that little bit more.

Yeah it's all good. Crazy! ;D but all good.
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Post by: bosk1 on January 27, 2015, 03:57:45 PM: I am with TAC.

Then again, he may be unfairly biased in favor of Blizzard because Mr. Crowley.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2015, 04:03:30 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on January 27, 2015, 03:57:45 PM
I am with TAC.

Then again, he may be unfairly biased in favor of Blizzard because Mr. Crowley.
:metal :metal :metal
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 27, 2015, 04:08:27 PM: Well since both albums were recorded at the same time..........
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 07:15:27 PM: Speaking of Diary, I listened to it the other day for the first time in ages and forgot how fucking good it is. Amazing metal album. The title track is just ridiculous.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2015, 07:21:43 PM: The Ultimate Sin was my first Ozzy album (and arguably my first metal album) and so I worked my way back to Diary. I picked up (and still have) Diary and Blizzard on one of those "2 for the price of one" cassettes - there's value for you :tup

Awesome album with some of my favourite , lesser known Ozzy tracks on it. I always loved S.A.T.O. for example.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 07:49:39 PM: I would say that Diary is my favorite release from Ozzy. Great metal album.

The re-release from a couple years back w/ the live RR album as a bonus is top notch.
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 08:15:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
The re-release from a couple years back w/ the live RR album as a bonus is top notch.

I think I should get this. What's the quality of the live show like?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 08:30:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
The re-release from a couple years back w/ the live RR album as a bonus is top notch.

I think I should get this. What's the quality of the live show like?

excellent...right on par with Tribute.
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 08:35:29 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
The re-release from a couple years back w/ the live RR album as a bonus is top notch.

I think I should get this. What's the quality of the live show like?

excellent...right on par with Tribute.

Wow.

Tribute, now there's a live album I haven't pulled out for a while, gotta change that.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2015, 09:06:59 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
The re-release from a couple years back w/ the live RR album as a bonus is top notch.

I think I should get this. What's the quality of the live show like?

excellent...right on par with Tribute.

Agreed. It's maybe not quite as polished, but it's very close in quality that you could easily confuse the two. It's not too different to what you get on Tribute in terms of setlist and performance, but it's another good live record of Randy Rhoads, so that makes it worth it.

And I also don't know how you could but The Ultimate Sin over many his other albums. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good album and I still listen to it plenty, but it can't compete with Blizzard, Diary, or No More Tears imo (and for me Ozzmosis which is hugely underrated).
I'd probably put it level with BATM, with BATM being less consistent but having much better songs, and TUS being more consistent, but not having the high points.

That said, I love pretty much all Ozzy albums, with his most recent being the only one I'd consider completely worthless.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 10:08:56 PM: I mentioned that Diary was my favorite Ozzy release overall, but I would likely pick the songs "The Ultimate Sin" and "Shot in the Dark" as my all time favorite Ozzy songs
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2015, 10:22:15 PM: Shot in the Dark would be up there as one of my favoutites too, and probably Never and The Ultimate Sin, but the album overall isn't up to the top 3 imo. I don't know, there's just something about the album that always keeps it just under the radar, but it is a very good album, and probably underrated.
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Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2015, 04:27:10 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2015, 09:06:59 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
The re-release from a couple years back w/ the live RR album as a bonus is top notch.

I think I should get this. What's the quality of the live show like?

excellent...right on par with Tribute.

Agreed. It's maybe not quite as polished, but it's very close in quality that you could easily confuse the two. It's not too different to what you get on Tribute in terms of setlist and performance, but it's another good live record of Randy Rhoads, so that makes it worth it.

And I also don't know how you could but The Ultimate Sin over many his other albums. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good album and I still listen to it plenty, but it can't compete with Blizzard, Diary, or No More Tears imo (and for me Ozzmosis which is hugely underrated).
I'd probably put it level with BATM, with BATM being less consistent but having much better songs, and TUS being more consistent, but not having the high points.

That said, I love pretty much all Ozzy albums, with his most recent being the only one I'd consider completely worthless.

I can totally agree with this. Great album.
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Post by: TAC on January 28, 2015, 05:46:33 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
I would say that Diary is my favorite release from Ozzy. Great metal album.

The re-release from a couple years back w/ the live RR album as a bonus is top notch.

I did not know there was a rerelease with a live album. Mmm.. I may have to take a look at that. While there are tons of Ozzy/RR boots, they all seem to suck.

Does the rerelease still have Daisley and Kerslake?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 28, 2015, 05:51:38 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 28, 2015, 05:46:33 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
I would say that Diary is my favorite release from Ozzy. Great metal album.

The re-release from a couple years back w/ the live RR album as a bonus is top notch.

I did not know there was a rerelease with a live album. Mmm.. I may have to take a look at that. While there are tons of Ozzy/RR boots, they all seem to suck.

Does the rerelease still have Daisley and Kerslake?

All good there. It's the original album, none of this re-recorded or remixed BS like the last one.
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Post by: ozzy554 on January 28, 2015, 03:18:49 PM: I liked scream, but the production kept me from loving it. Its just WAY too overproduced, which is a shame because there are some good songs on there in my opinion with time being my favorite. I hope for his next album he gets a new producer.
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Post by: WebRaider on January 28, 2015, 03:27:22 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on January 28, 2015, 03:18:49 PM
I liked scream, but the production kept me from loving it. Its just WAY too overproduced, which is a shame because there are some good songs on there in my opinion with time being my favorite. I hope for his next album he gets a new producer.

I agree... It gets way more hate than it deserves. As a whole album; Song-wise, (not production,music necessarily) I like it better than probably anything since Ozzmosis. I'm a mega Ozz fan but I wasn't a big fan of the stuff from after No More Tears. I love Zakk but he and Ozzy got way lazy and the majority just all sounded the same to me.
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Post by: TAC on January 28, 2015, 03:33:39 PM: I've heard two songs from Scream and they both absolutely sucked. One was the title track and the other was kind of ballady.

Name me one or two songs that I should check out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 28, 2015, 04:11:08 PM: The only song I heard from Scream was the title track and I thought it was terrible.
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Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2015, 09:07:16 PM: I purchased Scream mainly because of Gus G. I listened to it once and have not played it since.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 28, 2015, 09:09:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 28, 2015, 03:33:39 PM
I've heard two songs from Scream and they both absolutely sucked. One was the title track and the other was kind of ballady.

Name me one or two songs that I should check out.

The sad part is that they're by far the most tolerable on the album. Beyond that it's all slop garbage. It's by far Ozzy's worst album. Even Black Rain had a few great tracks on it to redeem it.
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Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2015, 09:14:16 PM: Black Rain didn't do much for me at all either.

I did quite like Down to Earth though.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 28, 2015, 09:42:27 PM: I think Down to Earth is quite underrated. It's a solid metal album, and Facing Hell has always been one of my favourites.

Black Rain I put marginally above Scream, because Not Going Away and The Almighty Dollar are pretty good songs, and at least the rest sounds like it's trying to be music.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 28, 2015, 09:49:40 PM: I haven't been impressed with Ozzy since Ozzmosis. That tv show didn't help things
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Post by: bl5150 on January 28, 2015, 10:16:28 PM: As you guys know I'm a huge Ozzy fan and I've hardly even listened to the post-Ozzmosis stuff - in fact I'm sure I haven't heard all the albums right through. Zakk started to get all BLS on Ozzy and the songs have just gone downhill fast without the great team he had on many of his best albums.

Gus G is an okay guitarist but can't write a decent song IMO - thought his solo album was crap too although it seems it has plenty of fans. (wolfking included ;) ) Just didn't grab me at all I'm afraid - even with the vocal talent on board..
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 28, 2015, 10:31:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 28, 2015, 10:16:28 PM
As you guys know I'm a huge Ozzy fan and I've hardly even listened to the post-Ozzmosis stuff - in fact I'm sure I haven't heard all the albums right through. Zakk started to get all BLS on Ozzy and the songs have just gone downhill fast without the great team he had on many of his best albums.

Gus G is an okay guitarist but can't write a decent song IMO - thought his solo album was crap too although it seems it has plenty of fans. (wolfking included ;) ) Just didn't grab me at all I'm afraid - even with the vocal talent on board..

I don't believe Gus G even has a writing credit on the latest Ozzy album. He's just a session guitarist basically. I prefer when the guitarist is the main songwriter and collaborator. It gives it a stronger sound, as they always had on the older albums.
Zakk Wylde doesn't have a writing credit on Down to Earth either, but that's before Ozzy or BLS sounded like slop anyway. That was his last great album imo, and I don't expect that will change with any new ones.
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2015, 04:10:28 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 28, 2015, 10:16:28 PM
As you guys know I'm a huge Ozzy fan and I've hardly even listened to the post-Ozzmosis stuff - in fact I'm sure I haven't heard all the albums right through. Zakk started to get all BLS on Ozzy and the songs have just gone downhill fast without the great team he had on many of his best albums.

Gus G is an okay guitarist but can't write a decent song IMO - thought his solo album was crap too although it seems it has plenty of fans. (wolfking included ;) ) Just didn't grab me at all I'm afraid - even with the vocal talent on board..

You should check out The Premonition from Firewind Brent, or even Allegiance, really solid metal.

And yes, I still love his solo album and spin it regulary, really fresh IMO.

Agree with Blob with Down to Earth being underrated and the last good Ozzy album.
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2015, 04:12:37 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/black-sabbaths-geezer-butler-arrested-for-california-bar-fight/

Geezer Butler still a badass.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 29, 2015, 04:17:43 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2015, 04:10:28 AM

You should check out The Premonition from Firewind Brent, or even Allegiance, really solid metal.

And yes, I still love his solo album and spin it regulary, really fresh IMO.

Agree with Blob with Down to Earth being underrated and the last good Ozzy album.

Will do ..................checked my collection and I have Burning Earth and Days of Defiance by Firewind. Some solid toons here and there but nothing brilliant and so didn't bother going much further .

I rated Gus G's solo album 63% :angel: ;D
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2015, 04:29:39 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 29, 2015, 04:17:43 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2015, 04:10:28 AM

You should check out The Premonition from Firewind Brent, or even Allegiance, really solid metal.

And yes, I still love his solo album and spin it regulary, really fresh IMO.

Agree with Blob with Down to Earth being underrated and the last good Ozzy album.

Will do ..................checked my collection and I have Burning Earth and Days of Defiance by Firewind. Some solid toons here and there but nothing brilliant and so didn't bother going much further .

I rated Gus G's solo album 63% :angel: ;D

Burning Earth is one of the earlier ones. I didn't really get into the older stuff at all actually. Days of Defiance was deemed a step down from the previous two, but I really liked it. Premonition and Allegiance are crowned their two big albums.
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Post by: TAC on January 29, 2015, 07:17:23 AM: Going back to 1986, although I put Master Of Puppets at the top of my list, I really didn't listen to it during that year. I did borrow the album from a friend because we were going to see them open for Ozzy, but I wasn't really into it. After loving Kill 'Em All when it came out, RTL and MOP came out and I basically ignored Metallica. For some reason, I did not follow that track of metal through 1984-1986, opting for a more Maiden and Dio kind of thing.

It wasn't until 1987 when I heard Keepers Pt.1 and Metallica's Garage Days Rerevisited, that the flood gates really opened for me on Metallica.
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Post by: TAC on January 30, 2015, 02:43:55 PM: Blackwelder!!
https://bravewords.com/news/blackwelder-featuring-primal-fear-dio-disciples-ex-angra-members-announce-debut-album-title-release-date-pre-mix-track-stream-posted
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2015, 03:51:50 PM: YYEEAAHHH!! That song sounds fucking solid.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 30, 2015, 08:39:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 30, 2015, 03:51:50 PM
YYEEAAHHH!! That song sounds fucking solid.
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2015, 03:28:50 AM: New UFO teaser;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w8d1z0tVdh8&x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404

Sounds like the last few.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 01, 2015, 07:33:29 AM: I really enjoy UFOs material from the 70s and early 80s, but have paid little attention to their 90s and onward material
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Post by: WebRaider on February 01, 2015, 02:34:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 30, 2015, 02:43:55 PM
Blackwelder!!
https://bravewords.com/news/blackwelder-featuring-primal-fear-dio-disciples-ex-angra-members-announce-debut-album-title-release-date-pre-mix-track-stream-posted

LOL this is actually pretty good but OMG.. you guys were just discussing the Master of Puppets album.. does no one else hear that? :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2015, 02:38:15 PM: Apparently I was the only one discussing it. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on February 02, 2015, 12:52:57 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 01, 2015, 07:33:29 AM
I really enjoy UFOs material from the 70s and early 80s, but have paid little attention to their 90s and onward material

I love Vinnie Moore but haven't really enjoyed much of the output with him so far. And the vocals have sounded weird. This sounds better. Pretty much UFO by numbers there.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2015, 03:27:23 PM: It surprises me how unknown UFO is considering how much material they have and how influential they were
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Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2015, 03:39:58 PM: They have always seem to be one of those bands that just cruise under the radar.
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Post by: TAC on February 02, 2015, 04:10:29 PM: After Dream Theater and Iron Maiden, UFO are my next favorite band.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 02, 2015, 04:49:09 PM: After Dream Theater and Iron Maiden, ...I still have to think REALLY hard to even remember a single UFO song title.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2015, 04:50:50 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on February 02, 2015, 04:49:09 PM
After Dream Theater and Iron Maiden, ...I still have to think REALLY hard to even remember a single UFO song title.

That's hitting Rock Bottom if you don't know any UFO
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Post by: bosk1 on February 02, 2015, 04:56:29 PM: Hate to say it, but the only reason I even get that joke is that Tesla covered that song. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2015, 05:09:09 PM: lol
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Post by: TAC on February 02, 2015, 05:11:44 PM: Tesla actually did an awesome job with that. UFO's influence on Tesla is obvious. Bosk, I wouldn't even know where to start with UFO for you, but their live album Strangers In The Night is an absolute must have.
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Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2015, 06:48:31 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 02, 2015, 04:50:50 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on February 02, 2015, 04:49:09 PM
After Dream Theater and Iron Maiden, ...I still have to think REALLY hard to even remember a single UFO song title.

That's hitting Rock Bottom if you don't know any UFO

Not bad at all.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 03, 2015, 01:32:48 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 02, 2015, 05:11:44 PM
Tesla actually did an awesome job with that. UFO's influence on Tesla is obvious. Bosk, I wouldn't even know where to start with UFO for you, but their live album Strangers In The Night is an absolute must have.

I agree with TAC. Wow :biggrin:

Yes, it's a difficult one. After SITN I would suggest Force It or Obsession for the Schenker era and maybe The Wild, The Willing And The Innocent for CHapman. Or just get an in depth best of.
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Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2015, 04:43:55 AM: New UFO tune in here;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ufo-new-song-run-boy-run-avaialble-for-streaming/

Pretty solid actually.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2015, 05:42:49 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 03, 2015, 01:32:48 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 02, 2015, 05:11:44 PM
Tesla actually did an awesome job with that. UFO's influence on Tesla is obvious. Bosk, I wouldn't even know where to start with UFO for you, but their live album Strangers In The Night is an absolute must have.

I agree with TAC. Wow :biggrin:

Yes, it's a difficult one. After SITN I would suggest Force It or Obsession for the Schenker era and maybe The Wild, The Willing And The Innocent for CHapman. Or just get an in depth best of.

WWI is definitely the definitive Chapman era album, but I prefer No Heavy Petting. One of the best performances by a guitarist that these ears have heard.

Quote from: wolfking on February 03, 2015, 04:43:55 AM
New UFO tune in here;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ufo-new-song-run-boy-run-avaialble-for-streaming/

Pretty solid actually.
Heard that yesterday. Nope. Not bad. Some tasty licks.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 03, 2015, 07:02:05 AM: That is a solid tune!
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2015, 10:05:41 AM: And speaking of UFO, 1993's reunion album Walk On Water is one of their best.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 04, 2015, 02:29:34 AM: It's taken me a while to finish it , but I just got though the new SOTO disc. It's about where I expected , which is not that impressive. I hate to say it as I worship the guy but these sort of albums highlight to me what a huge part of Talisman Marcel Jacob was.

There's certainly some good tracks on it - maybe half the songs I'd be happy to have on rotation but none of them really grabbed me in a big way. I'd certainly check it out if I was a Soto fan but in my case I was pretty bored with it by the end.

Rating : 70%
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Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2015, 04:00:51 AM: I'm getting it, but I ain't expecting much from it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 04, 2015, 08:04:14 AM: Brent, does it have a more modern sound?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 04, 2015, 06:39:57 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 04, 2015, 08:04:14 AM
Brent, does it have a more modern sound?

It does yeah.........although it's not all "modern metal". I'd say it's just melodic metal with a modern edge .

I was really down on it after the first two tracks which were all Adrenaline Mob...........I really don't like it when Jeff does the whole "you've gone too far , I'll kick your ass" type lyric as it just doesn't suit him , but as it went on the quality of the writing improved. I thought we were on target for a 60% at the start.

At the end of the day it's a good quality record that , aside from one or two songs, I don't feel like playing again. I feel like that about a lot of current day releases - the quality is there but nothing memorable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2015, 07:29:57 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 04, 2015, 06:39:57 PM

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 04, 2015, 08:04:14 AM
Brent, does it have a more modern sound?

It does yeah.........although it's not all "modern metal". I'd say it's just melodic metal with a modern edge .

I was really down on it after the first two tracks which were all Adrenaline Mob...........I really don't like it when Jeff does the whole "you've gone too far , I'll kick your ass" type lyric as it just doesn't suit him , but as it went on the quality of the writing improved. I thought we were on target for a 60% at the start.

At the end of the day it's a good quality record that , aside from one or two songs, I don't feel like playing again. I feel like that about a lot of current day releases - the quality is there but nothing memorable.

I really agree with that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2015, 05:27:15 PM: Im really digging the new Level 10 disc.
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Post by: TAC on February 09, 2015, 05:32:32 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 09, 2015, 05:27:15 PM
Im really digging the new Level 10 disc.
Is that the Russ Allen thing?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2015, 05:53:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 09, 2015, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 09, 2015, 05:27:15 PM
Im really digging the new Level 10 disc.
Is that the Russ Allen thing?

Yeah.

I'm only 3 tracks in but like what I am hearing so far. Grapow is shredding it up so far.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 09, 2015, 05:55:35 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 09, 2015, 05:53:17 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 09, 2015, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 09, 2015, 05:27:15 PM
Im really digging the new Level 10 disc.
Is that the Russ Allen thing?

Yeah.

I'm only 3 tracks in but like what I am hearing so far. Grapow is shredding it up so far.
:facepalm:
That's right..Grapow too. Will check out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2015, 06:47:08 PM: Yeah Grapow sounds excellent!
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Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2015, 08:01:06 PM: I was afraid he was going to play second fiddle to Alex, but good to hear him shred it out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2015, 09:28:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 09, 2015, 08:01:06 PM
I was afraid he was going to play second fiddle to Alex, but good to hear him shred it out.

Do you think this will be a one time gig? I think these guys really gel
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 04:41:03 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 09, 2015, 09:28:23 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 09, 2015, 08:01:06 PM
I was afraid he was going to play second fiddle to Alex, but good to hear him shred it out.

Do you think this will be a one time gig? I think these guys really gel

I think the band sounds quite good together too. I think Grapow is what makes this that extra special. Sounds like a lot of the rhythm playing is him too, his tones are incredible and give the album a real boost.

The funny thing is, for all the members involved in this, it's really nothing out of the box, but I think that's what makes this album really enjoyable. Straight forward, simple, ass kicking songs with the band just doing some cool shit and not trying to come up with something that seems forced. Really liking this too.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 10, 2015, 03:24:00 PM: Yeah a good effort/ A couple of songs don't do it - too Adrenaline Mob-like - but the rest are well worth it. Nice to hear Russ on some more melodic stuff. The duffers are the ones he resorts to bellowing on. Have only listened in the car so not sure of the titles yet. Needs more listens and it was enjoyable enough that it will get them,
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Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2015, 04:04:11 PM: I'm going to get a chance to have a listen to the Jap version of the new Eclipse today. I go in not expecting anything particularly inspiring and I imagine I won't be waiting long to hear that first (typical) rapid fire riff that Martensson goes for so often. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Edit ...had to wait around 5 seconds ;D Decent riff though :D
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 04:15:43 PM: Report your thoughts Brent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2015, 05:27:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 04:15:43 PM
Report your thoughts Brent.

OK..............good album. I'll preface this by saying that I have never subscribed to the idea that Martensson is some sort of songwriting genius - and for some reason I've preferred the material he has written outside of his main band. I have trouble remembering much about the last album (Bleed and Scream) aside from the fact that I really liked 2 or 3 tracks and , as is often the case with Erik , the rest just blended into each other and left me uninspired.

The consensus among reviewers seems to be that this is "even better" than Bleed and Scream and I would agree with that - they said the same thing about the latest H.E.A.T. too ,with which I totally disagree. How you get better than 100% I don't know but I'll leave that to others ;D

Like Bleed and Scream I really like a few tracks and the rest....not so much. The difference here is that IMHO the weaker tracks are a lot stronger. There's a few more slightly original ideas floating around too. It's probably a bit closer to the Hitchcock album in quality , if that means anything.

So - if you're already an Eclipse fan - you know what you're going to get and I'd say it's an automatic purchase. Those who are a bit iffy ........I'd still give it a go. It's exactly what you expect from Martensson. The guitar sound and production is about the same on every song and about the same as all his other stuff , there's huge riffs, huge production and a retro feel to a number of the songs. It's just straight ahead melodic hard rock done well but without anywhere near the songwriting depth of albums like Albion , Address The Nation etc......

I rate it 82% which is a lot higher than I expected going in. Having said that I'm not sure it's going to age well - it's a style of songwriting which catches your ear but for the most part doesn't demand multiple repeat listens......and that applies to most recent releases where I'm concerned. For what it is though it's well done.

I think you'll like it Kade , with the qualifications given above.
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Post by: TAC on February 10, 2015, 05:40:40 PM: Not familiar with Eclipse. How many albums do they have? What's the best?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2015, 05:45:25 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 10, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
Not familiar with Eclipse. How many albums do they have? What's the best?

I think they might be up to five now ......I'd say this latest is their best but I'm not sure it's your cuppa tea TAC.

Here's one of the stronger tracks .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVS71KUnH1M
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 05:59:10 PM: Sounds good Brent. I have it on preorder, but good to read your words on it. I'm sure I'll dig it for the most part, although I think I'll agree with you with the aging of the record. Bleen and Scream was amazing at the start, but funny how badly it aged for me.

Yeah, I think this would be their 5th album. Their first two were pretty shit. Are You Ready to Rock was a good slab of rock too and that one aged better than Bleed and Scream IMO. yeah, TAC, I don't think you'd dig 'em that much.
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Post by: TAC on February 10, 2015, 05:59:39 PM: At first I thought I was listening to Egypt (The Chains Are On). The verse reminds me of something off Waysted's Save Your Prayers. I don't care for the chorus. Cool solo section and great vocals.
I rate it an 83%. ;D

It definitely gets me interested in checking something else out. Where are they from?
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 06:02:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 10, 2015, 05:45:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVS71KUnH1M

Geez, the music sounds exactly the same as any track from Bleed and Scream. This could be placed anywhere in that album and fit just like the rest.

Quote from: TAC on February 10, 2015, 05:59:39 PM
It definitely gets me interested in checking something else out. Where are they from?

Sweden? I think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2015, 06:04:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 10, 2015, 05:45:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVS71KUnH1M

Geez, the music sounds exactly the same as any track from Bleed and Scream. This could be placed anywhere in that album and fit just like the rest.

Quote from: TAC on February 10, 2015, 05:59:39 PM
It definitely gets me interested in checking something else out. Where are they from?

Sweden? I think.

Yep and yep ;D

I think this track off B&S might be more up TAC's alley..........a bit less wishy washy chorus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IwUPS86264

But yeah..........same old chugga chugga riffs , but there is a bit more variety on the latest than there was on B&S.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2015, 06:08:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 10, 2015, 06:04:50 PM
I think this track off B&S might be more up TAC's alley..........a bit less wishy washy chorus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IwUPS86264
Kiss' King Of The Mountain anyone?

I like this. Real Old School.

Thanks guys!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 10, 2015, 06:45:27 PM: That was pretty good.

I would rate it a 78.658%
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 06:48:53 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2015, 08:09:32 PM: Chris Holmes' latest vid............I rate this 99%.........not :lol They should get him to do some stuff for Frontiers - at least it'd be sorta interesting :angel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTIWzgExzAA
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 08:54:51 PM: Saw that the other day. What the hell is he thinking, or smoking? :lol
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Post by: ozzy554 on February 10, 2015, 09:23:23 PM: Instrumentally I like it, The guitar has that old school WASP sound that I love. Then when he opens his mouth it's all downhill from there. He REALLY needs to find a singer.
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 09:26:55 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on February 10, 2015, 09:23:23 PM
Instrumentally I like it, The guitar has that old school WASP sound that I love. Then when he opens his mouth it's all downhill from there. He REALLY needs to find a singer.

Yeah, I thought right away it sounded like something from the first couple of albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 10, 2015, 11:11:39 PM: overall, not good
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Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2015, 04:29:29 AM: Still happily spinning Level 10 constantly, it's good. I'm just not sure how much lasting power it will have over time. Fuck I love Grapow's playing though.
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Post by: TAC on February 11, 2015, 06:36:45 AM: Chris Holmes WTF? :facepalm:

Quote from: wolfking on February 11, 2015, 04:29:29 AM
Still happily spinning Level 10 constantly, it's good. I'm just not sure how much lasting power it will have over time.
I'm not sure I'm going to buy this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 11, 2015, 11:04:02 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 11, 2015, 06:36:45 AM
Chris Holmes WTF? :facepalm:

Quote from: wolfking on February 11, 2015, 04:29:29 AM
Still happily spinning Level 10 constantly, it's good. I'm just not sure how much lasting power it will have over time.
I'm not sure I'm going to buy this.

Just make sure you have spending money in March for the deluxe edition of Defenders of the Faith. That is a must buy if I've ever seen one!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2015, 11:39:17 AM: Thanks for reminding me. Time to make an actual list of The List. Im getting some CD money on Valentines and then again for a Easter.

Love the fact that they are releasing a full live show. Isolated live bonus tracks do nothing for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2015, 08:12:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 11, 2015, 06:36:45 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 11, 2015, 04:29:29 AM
Still happily spinning Level 10 constantly, it's good. I'm just not sure how much lasting power it will have over time.
I'm not sure I'm going to buy this.

I'm still spinning it and enjoying it. It's worth a purchase.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 11, 2015, 08:23:34 PM: I would give Level 10 an 8.5/10. Excellent disc, recommended!
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Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2015, 08:26:33 PM: I gave it 75%..........was certainly better than I expected from the samples. Like most releases these days .................cut 4 tracks and that rating would jump into the 80's. Based on song ratings I had 1 killer , 7 good tracks and 4 fillers.
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 04:21:08 AM: I just noticed today how similar the riffs in Wilderness I think it is are to Headless Cross. Pretty much the same.
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 04:24:58 AM: (https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/impellitterivenomcd.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G4je574I2pU

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/impellitteri-to-release-venom-album-in-april/

Was never a huge fan of Chris' music. I'll give this a listen but won't expect that much.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2015, 05:00:30 AM: Had a listen to the EPK and it sounds like an average Impellitteri album...........maybe one or two really good tracks and the rest just dialled in. He does have a couple of albums that are much more consistent but I doubt this will be added to that group.

I can't remember the last album by an 80's shredder that really grabbed me - maybe one of Macalpine's , but really the best of this stuff was done a long time ago and it's a pleasant surprise when anything even comes close to hitting the same heights as the heyday.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2015, 05:01:10 AM: I'm a big Rob Rock fan, but could never get into Impellitteri.

That is one awesome album cover!! Might give this one a try
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 05:06:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 12, 2015, 05:00:30 AM
I can't remember the last album by an 80's shredder that really grabbed me - maybe one of Macalpine's , but really the best of this stuff was done a long time ago and it's a pleasant surprise when anything even comes close to hitting the same heights as the heyday.

Macalpine has been by far the most consistent over the years IMO. The last Vinnie Moore wasn't bad though.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 16, 2015, 06:35:36 AM: Upcoming film on Scorpions if anyone's interested.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCG4wYXd1ao
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Post by: TAC on February 16, 2015, 07:00:02 AM: Rolf Rische is German for Eddie Trunk! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2015, 12:22:25 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 16, 2015, 07:00:02 AM
Rolf Rische is German for Eddie Trunk! :lol

I thought it was dummkopf :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2015, 04:51:00 AM: How many of you guys checked out Serious Black and what did you think? I'm listening to my copy for the first time and can't really form an opinion yet. Not sure how strong I think it is yet.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2015, 04:55:42 AM: I rated it low 80's at first listen............a bit one dimensional but the key to the high rating is no total duds and a couple of really good songs. I'd need to give it another listen to comment in detail. Certainly not my favourite album featuring Breed or Grapow but a very solid debut and they themselves have said it was a bit rushed and they view it as a taster for a much better second effort.
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Post by: Evermind on February 17, 2015, 05:09:19 AM: I think it was alright, loved some songs, but didn't care for a few others. It didn't have a lot of lasting power on me, I think I grew a bit tired of it after five spins or so.

I also think some songs had the great potential, but ended up being a bit weak. For example, when I heard High and Low the first time, I was excited at the beginning with that powerful "high and loooooooow" part, but when the actual chorus kicked in, I was disappointed. I need to spin the album again to find more examples though.
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Post by: TAC on February 17, 2015, 05:58:02 AM: Hmm.. You guys are not helping me with this. I was looking forward to this. Now I don't know what to do.
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Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2015, 03:00:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2015, 04:55:42 AM
I rated it low 80's at first listen............a bit one dimensional but the key to the high rating is no total duds and a couple of really good songs. I'd need to give it another listen to comment in detail. Certainly not my favourite album featuring Breed or Grapow but a very solid debut and they themselves have said it was a bit rushed and they view it as a taster for a much better second effort.

Yeah, it's pretty consistent and every song has something to offer, but I can understand the comment about it being a bit rushed. If this is rushed though, I look forward to the next one. I'm still undecided but it seems to be a grower and my second listen now is a lot better than the first.

The only negative I have is that Grapow's lead tone doesn't sound anywhere near as strong as usual. Even compared to Level 10, the quality of the tone and production is worlds apart.

Quote from: Evermind on February 17, 2015, 05:09:19 AM
I think it was alright, loved some songs, but didn't care for a few others. It didn't have a lot of lasting power on me, I think I grew a bit tired of it after five spins or so.

I also think some songs had the great potential, but ended up being a bit weak. For example, when I heard High and Low the first time, I was excited at the beginning with that powerful "high and loooooooow" part, but when the actual chorus kicked in, I was disappointed. I need to spin the album again to find more examples though.

I can see it not having lasting power, but I'll see how it goes. High and Low is one I didn't really care for when it came out, but now within the album it's an early favourite. The part you are talking about wouldn't help as it's a total rip off of Edguy's Ministry of Saints.
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Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2015, 03:00:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2015, 05:58:02 AM
Hmm.. You guys are not helping me with this. I was looking forward to this. Now I don't know what to do.

I think you should enjoy it.
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Post by: TAC on February 17, 2015, 03:32:14 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 17, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2015, 05:58:02 AM
Hmm.. You guys are not helping me with this. I was looking forward to this. Now I don't know what to do.

I think you should enjoy it.

OK, I'll grab it for the ride home.

I hope Testament releases a live album from this tour:
https://bravewords.com/news/testament-announce-dark-roots-of-thrash-ii-tour-re-introducing-bassist-steve-digiorgio-to-perform-the-legacy-the-new-order-albums-in-their-entirety-plus-select-practice-what-you-preach-album-cuts-exodus-shattered-sun-to-support
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Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2015, 03:35:07 PM: That's gonna be a killer setlist.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2015, 03:37:07 PM: Believe it or not I'm sitting here with a Practice What You Preach shirt on :biggrin:
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Post by: bosk1 on February 17, 2015, 03:42:30 PM: I believe it.
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Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2015, 03:47:28 PM: Badass.

just got through Serious Black again, and yeah, there's nothing really weak on here at all.
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Post by: Evermind on February 17, 2015, 09:51:35 PM: Quote from: wolfking
The part you are talking about wouldn't help as it's a total rip off of Edguy's Ministry of Saints.

Now, I don't think it's a bad thing. I don't say they had to continue with it, but I wish they developed it into something more powerful.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2015, 04:24:31 AM: I like it, but I can see what you mean with that part. Love Roland's solo on that song too.
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2015, 06:14:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 17, 2015, 03:47:28 PM
just got through Serious Black again, and yeah, there's nothing really weak on here at all.

OK I'm one listen through it.
It's starts off well enough with the first two songs. The first sign of trouble for me is Sealing My Fate. I just hate how Breed sings this.
It shows up again in the later ballad.
My favorite song is Akhenation.
This album reminds me of the last Masterplan, which should be no surprise, but I must say I like Altzi better. I don't have anything with Urban Breed on it, but all of his samples have always sounded great, but I must say, he's actually a bit annoying by the end of this.

That all said, musically, this is right up my alley. It needs some more spins, and will definitely get them.

Why name this band Serious Black? It doesn't feel real Serious, and it's definitely not Black. :)
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 18, 2015, 08:50:03 AM: So I was discussing in GD-side chat that I didn't get into music heavily until the mid to late 90's. I got everything I could from Kiss, Van Halen, shredders like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani, and a slect few others. Eventually, I got into hair bands and did the same - I listened to that almost exclusively and didn't venture much further. Now, I realize that there are SO SO many classic albums that I just never ever listened to. I knew the radio hits (if there were any), but that was it.

So I've been trying to go back and listen to a lot of classic albums that I've never given a proper listen. For example, in the last week, I've listened to Blizzard of Ozz, Diary of a Madman, British Steel, and Screaming for Vengeance. All great stuff. Listening to Anthrax's Among the Living currently. Not liking it as much as I liked STD.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 10:05:39 AM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 18, 2015, 08:50:03 AM
Not liking it as much as I liked STD.

Given the timeframe you got into music, that isn't really surprising. STD's were definitely in the rise in the '80s, but there was so much talk and awareness and education that they started to decline again by the 90s, so...
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 18, 2015, 10:11:50 AM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2015, 02:49:45 PM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 18, 2015, 08:50:03 AM
Listening to Anthrax's Among the Living currently. Not liking it as much as I liked STD.
STD has much more of a classic metal feel. Among has a lot of NY hardcore elements in it. But back in the day, STD kind of came and went. Among really was their breakthrough album because of the outside your normal metal influences.
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2015, 02:52:25 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 18, 2015, 08:50:03 AM
Not liking it as much as I liked STD.

Given the timeframe you got into music, that isn't really surprising. STD's were definitely in the rise in the '80s, but there was so much talk and awareness and education that they started to decline again by the 90s, so...

:lol

Bosk..
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Post by: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 02:56:54 PM: Uh...

So Level 10 is pretty cool.
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2015, 03:01:16 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
So Level 10 is pretty cool.

I still need some convincing.

Anyway, for the ride to Disney, my theme was relatively recent albums by classic bands. Here's the list:
Uriah Heep-Wake The Sleeper
UFO-The Visitor
Michael Schenker-Bridge The Gap
Saxon-Call To Arms
Anthrax-Worship Music
Armored Saint-La Raza
Flotsam &Jetsam-Ugly Noise
Megadeth-Th1rt3en
Iron Maiden-The Final Frontier
Testament-Dark Roots Of Earth
Unisonic-Light Of Dawn

Unisonic was kind of a cheat I guess, but I'd rather listen to that than recent Helloween.

I also must say that Worship Music finally and absolutely clicked with me. What a great album. Some of the best lead playing on any Anthrax album. I kind of glossed over this a little when it came out.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 03:09:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 18, 2015, 03:01:16 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
So Level 10 is pretty cool.

I still need some convincing.

Having listened to the album a few times now, I am definitely getting the Whitesnake vibe somebody mentioned earlier. It's sort of a Whitesnake meets Dio (and maybe a sprinkling of late '80s Ozzy) with modern, sinister heavy riffing and some nice background keys to give subtle atmosphere. That's how I would describe the album as a whole.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2015, 04:34:22 PM: I never understood the status of Among The Living...........STD kills it IMO.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 18, 2015, 05:15:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2015, 04:34:22 PM
I never understood the status of Among The Living...........STD kills it IMO.

STD is my favorite release from Anthrax for sure. Worship Music would rank highly too, that was a fantastic release and I'm looking forward to what they put out this year.

TAC, get Level 10.......you will like it! Whitesnake meets Dio is a good description.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2015, 08:09:04 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 03:09:00 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 18, 2015, 03:01:16 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
So Level 10 is pretty cool.

I still need some convincing.

Having listened to the album a few times now, I am definitely getting the Whitesnake vibe somebody mentioned earlier. It's sort of a Whitesnake meets Dio (and maybe a sprinkling of late '80s Ozzy) with modern, sinister heavy riffing and some nice background keys to give subtle atmosphere. That's how I would describe the album as a whole.

Yeah, I mentioned the Whitensnake thing when Cry No More was released. I still feel it has that vibe but a mix with Dio is very appropriate. Great album too.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2015, 04:53:02 AM: I like the look of this.........apparently on DVD in April.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlzWl795u0E

One on thrash too........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL9Yj4-L76M
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2015, 05:14:56 AM: That first trailer was put up in 2013! :lol

They look cool though, although I was never really big into buying documentries on DVD.
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Post by: TAC on February 19, 2015, 05:30:39 AM: Bought Level 10 last night . Halfway through and it sounds awesome!

Love the classic keyboard sound.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2015, 05:48:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 19, 2015, 05:14:56 AM
That first trailer was put up in 2013! :lol

They look cool though, although I was never really big into buying documentries on DVD.

Pretty common for this sort of doco to take years to get up - hopefully it'll end up on Youtube ;D

The guys behind it also have a semi-regular radio show - some vids here that could be of interest (and going forward)

https://tradiov.com/la/videoscategory/insidemetal/
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Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2015, 06:37:03 AM: I just completed my first listen to the new Scorps album and it's pretty disappointing overall. It's not the easiest album to summarise as it's got 17 tracks which , from what I understand ,are a combo of old leftovers redone and some new stuff written over the last few years.

It's certainly nothing like my favourite modern Scorps album , which is Humanity Hour 1. The "rockers" (which is being generous to many of the harder tracks) are , in most cases, best described as "good time rock n roll" with very little edge/bite and at worst (Rock My Car) they're pretty lame with embarrassingly bad lyrics. I don't normally take much notice of lyrics unless they're particularly good or bad and in this case it ain't the former.

Despite that we do have a couple of pretty decent rockers in there , but the real saviour in terms of my rating is the ballads which are in the ballpark of the usual standard. Without them the rating would be much lower. Also note (if checking out samples) that the second half is much stronger than the first IMHO.

I rate it 73%. I'd be inclined to listen to as much as I can with samples etc...... and purchase a few favourite tracks in digital format. As an album there's way too much filler.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 19, 2015, 07:07:25 AM: I think I will just stick with classic Scorpions
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Post by: Evermind on February 19, 2015, 08:08:08 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 19, 2015, 07:07:25 AM
I think I will just stick with classic Scorpions

Yeah. I agree with Brent though, Humanity Hour-1 is pretty good. I spin it occasionally and always enjoy it.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 19, 2015, 08:20:48 AM: I'm kinda surprised that I didn't catch any more flack over the fact that I just listened to four of the most classic albums in the history of hard rock/metal for the first time in the last week. :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 19, 2015, 08:21:38 AM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 19, 2015, 08:20:48 AM
I'm kinda surprised that I didn't catch any more flack over the fact that I just listened to four of the most classic albums in the history of hard rock/metal for the first time in the last week. :lol

I'm actually a little disappointed. I don't even know who you are any more.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 19, 2015, 08:24:34 AM: Well, as noted, I gravitated to a select few artists in the beginning and stuck to that. Then I opened up to more stuff and stuck to that. I've always been very particular like that. I find what I like and usually don't deviate much from it. It's only in the last few years that I've decided I need to really stop doing that.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 19, 2015, 09:34:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 18, 2015, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 03:09:00 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 18, 2015, 03:01:16 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on February 18, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
So Level 10 is pretty cool.

I still need some convincing.

Having listened to the album a few times now, I am definitely getting the Whitesnake vibe somebody mentioned earlier. It's sort of a Whitesnake meets Dio (and maybe a sprinkling of late '80s Ozzy) with modern, sinister heavy riffing and some nice background keys to give subtle atmosphere. That's how I would describe the album as a whole.

Yeah, I mentioned the Whitensnake thing when Cry No More was released. I still feel it has that vibe but a mix with Dio is very appropriate. Great album too.

Yeah, I remember you saying that. I didn't really hear it at first. But listening to the whole album, I totally do. I think Whitesnake/Dio is a good description, but as I said, also a smattering of Jake/early Zakk-era Ozzy in terms of some of the guitar riffing.

Quote from: bl5150 on February 19, 2015, 06:37:03 AM
I just completed my first listen to the new Scorps album and it's pretty disappointing overall. It's not the easiest album to summarise as it's got 17 tracks which , from what I understand ,are a combo of old leftovers redone and some new stuff written over the last few years.

It's certainly nothing like my favourite modern Scorps album , which is Humanity Hour 1.

I used to be WAY into them in the '80s, but my enthusiasm has cooled off substantially. But funny you should mention Humanity Hour 1. I was just listening to it again recently and am still blown away by how good it is. I pared my Scorps collection way down, and I consider it to be perfect with only the following: Blackout, Love At First Sting, World Wide Live, Face the Heat, Live Bites, and Humanity Hour 1. Those have pretty much all the songs I really like from them, with the two live disks filling in some of the older classics (I also have one of the dozen or so "hits" collections for that as well). I just find that I don't need anything else to get my Scorpions fix.
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Post by: TAC on February 19, 2015, 12:46:29 PM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 19, 2015, 08:20:48 AM
I'm kinda surprised that I didn't catch any more flack over the fact that I just listened to four of the most classic albums in the history of hard rock/metal for the first time in the last week. :lol
Raised my eyebrows but why go there....

Humanity is awesome. The only decent thing they've done in 25 years.

Bosk, give Lovedrive a try.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 19, 2015, 12:56:41 PM: Oh, I have. It's not a bad album by any stretch. But the live albums (and the hits package I have) give me every single song except Always Somewhere, which I can do without. And, honestly, I like the live versions better than the studio versions.
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2015, 01:12:54 PM: I'm not a big Scorpions fan, but Humanity is bloody awesome.
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Post by: TAC on February 19, 2015, 02:07:06 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on February 19, 2015, 12:56:41 PM
Oh, I have. It's not a bad album by any stretch. But the live albums (and the hits package I have) give me every single song except Always Somewhere, which I can do without. And, honestly, I like the live versions better than the studio versions.
Yeah that makes sense.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 19, 2015, 02:15:22 PM: Hard to believe that entire album is only 37 minutes long. And it is really solid from start to finish. Even Always Somewhere isn't bad (although its existence is completely unnecessary, since we have Fade To Black).

And going back to Humanity for a second, I really have to give Desmond Child props for his songwriting skills. He may not have been able to save You Not Me, but in looking at his track record, including basically all of Humanity, the guy has written MORE than his fair share of outstanding songs.
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Post by: TAC on February 19, 2015, 06:39:56 PM: This discussion needs this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoI7deS76Ck
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Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2015, 09:39:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 19, 2015, 06:39:56 PM
This discussion needs this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoI7deS76Ck

Some really nice playing in that song...........the fashion and stage moves.............not so much ;D

(https://www.stomptokyo.com/reelopinions/images/Borat%204.jpg)

I've been listening to a lot of new releases the last few weeks and also quite a bit of roulette related stuff. Next week I intend to get started on the (long) process of rating and getting together all the best albums of 1987.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 19, 2015, 11:59:37 PM: Gunners and Whitesnake are early predictions to top your 87 list
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 20, 2015, 12:09:15 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 19, 2015, 11:59:37 PM
Gunners and Whitesnake are early predictions to top your 87 list

These would be the correct answers.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 23, 2015, 06:26:26 PM: So I bought my first three 2015 albums while on vacation last week: Serious Black, Level 10, and Shadowquest.

I must say that my second spin of Serious Black was 10 times better than the first one!!
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Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2015, 08:34:18 PM: Yeah, Serious Black is really good IMO.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2015, 08:48:09 PM: I was watching a Harry Potter movie with my son the other day........never seen any of them before........and I was half watching , half snoozing and guess what shocked me out of my slumber? Serious Black :lol Turns out the dude's name is Sirius Black but hey - close enough. ;D

Those music antennae never switch off.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 24, 2015, 01:29:51 AM: I wouldn't care if there was even a cameo from Rob Halford and Bruce Dickinson, no way would I watch a second of Harry Potter lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2015, 01:32:10 AM: :lol hence the snoozing. As far as stuff for 7 year olds goes it's above average ;)
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 24, 2015, 03:11:43 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR35pRz7JQ8

New The Darkness single " Barbarian ".
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 24, 2015, 03:16:26 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 10, 2015, 08:09:32 PM
Chris Holmes' latest vid............I rate this 99%.........not :lol They should get him to do some stuff for Frontiers - at least it'd be sorta interesting :angel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTIWzgExzAA

:lol Not as bad as the last video with the electric drumkit and the green sheet not doing anything and the exercise equipment in shot....
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Post by: TAC on February 24, 2015, 09:14:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 23, 2015, 08:48:09 PM
I was watching a Harry Potter movie with my son the other day........never seen any of them before........and I was half watching , half snoozing and guess what shocked me out of my slumber? Serious Black :lol Turns out the dude's name is Sirius Black but hey - close enough. ;D
Woah! You serious? ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 24, 2015, 01:05:45 PM: By the way, I touched base with Chad. All good with him; he will make his highly anticipated return at some point. Unknown timeframe
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Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2015, 01:58:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 24, 2015, 01:05:45 PM
By the way, I touched base with Chad. All good with him; he will make his highly anticipated return at some point. Unknown timeframe

That's good news.
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Post by: TAC on February 24, 2015, 03:40:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 24, 2015, 01:05:45 PM
By the way, I touched base with Chad. All good with him; he will make his highly anticipated return at some point. Unknown timeframe

That's good news.

That IS good news.

I was thinking of him last week while we were at EPCOT outside the Star Tours ride.
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Post by: Podaar on February 24, 2015, 03:52:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 24, 2015, 03:40:45 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 24, 2015, 01:05:45 PM
By the way, I touched base with Chad. All good with him; he will make his highly anticipated return at some point. Unknown timeframe

That's good news.

That IS good news.

I was thinking of him last week while we were at EPCOT outside the Star Tours ride.

Fantastic news. I've been resisting sending him a PM like an Motha :censored. If anyone speaks with him, give him my best.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 24, 2015, 06:43:51 PM: He is all good, just tied up with a few things. I guess some things in life are more important then DTF. Hard to believe lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2015, 08:13:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 24, 2015, 06:43:51 PM
He is all good, just tied up with a few things. I guess some things in life are more important then DTF. Hard to believe lol

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pogYQddC--/672513710607072805.jpg)
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Post by: Lowdz on February 25, 2015, 01:18:45 AM: He sent me a birthday message on Facebook a couple of weeks ago so I knew he was fine. Miss the old man.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2015, 01:38:48 AM: He actually popped in here for a while and started a birthday thread for you Paul - which presumably you missed.

I've checked in via email myself a couple of weeks back , just to make sure old age hadn't claimed him ;D In actual fact (as I related to Chad) I first checked that his last.fm was still active (which it was)........if he'd stopped listening to music then I knew there must be a troubling imbalance in the force.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2015, 04:57:39 AM: Where do I sign up?

https://www.odditycentral.com/tag/roger-tullgren

Old article but still a bit of a legend :D
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 25, 2015, 07:19:04 AM: Wow! I think I'll start skipping work today lol
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Post by: Lowdz on February 25, 2015, 08:09:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2015, 01:38:48 AM
He actually popped in here for a while and started a birthday thread for you Paul - which presumably you missed.

I've checked in via email myself a couple of weeks back , just to make sure old age hadn't claimed him ;D In actual fact (as I related to Chad) I first checked that his last.fm was still active (which it was)........if he'd stopped listening to music then I knew there must be a troubling imbalance in the force.

Whoops yup, missed that. Aww, feeling loved :heart
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 25, 2015, 08:14:07 AM: New Whitesnake studio album is just re-records of his old material. :tdwn Poop.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 25, 2015, 09:05:35 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 25, 2015, 08:14:07 AM
New Whitesnake studio album is just re-records of his old material. :tdwn Poop.

Were we under any illusion that Coverdale could serviceably sing any new material? ???
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 25, 2015, 09:07:25 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on February 25, 2015, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 25, 2015, 08:14:07 AM
New Whitesnake studio album is just re-records of his old material. :tdwn Poop.

Were we under any illusion that Coverdale could serviceably sing any new material? ???

Given his performance on the other recent studio albums, I'd have absolutely no reason to doubt his ability to sing new material. Singing new material would be more suited to him anyway, since it can be written to his current vocal range. Your question makes no sense.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 25, 2015, 09:11:01 AM: It makes perfect sense. If they are merely re-records where they are using old vocals from a time when he could actually sing, it will sound better than if he is trying to croak out vocals now. Not sure what doesn't make sense about that.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 25, 2015, 09:12:08 AM: What are you on about? They're re-records. Who said anything about old vocals?
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Post by: Lowdz on February 25, 2015, 10:14:18 AM: If only they had used the old vocals. These are terrible. And covered in layers of people who can sing now. Coverdale's voice died years ago. It was awesome whilst it lasted though.
Its a pretty crap cover all told tbh. Solo's shit too - I expect better of Reb - wahwah all over it - usually a sign there's not much interesting going on. Lots of keyboard whooshy sounds. Not much to recommend this.

Just listen to the awesome original.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 25, 2015, 11:25:55 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 25, 2015, 10:14:18 AM
If only they had used the old vocals. These are terrible. And covered in layers of people who can sing now.
Really? I just assumed they would use an old vocal track, because:
Quote from: Lowdz on February 25, 2015, 10:14:18 AM
If only they had used the old vocals. These are terrible. And covered in layers of people who can sing now. Coverdale's voice died years ago.

That is disappointing.
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Post by: Deathless on February 25, 2015, 12:54:28 PM: I was wondering how they managed to do a record so quickly, because Coverdale seemed like he didn't want to write a full-length. I assume doing a re-record of covers is easier.
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Post by: TAC on February 25, 2015, 12:56:05 PM: Whitesnake....,Yawn!

Seriously.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 25, 2015, 05:03:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 25, 2015, 12:56:05 PM
Whitesnake....,Yawn!

Seriously.

? Don't like them?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2015, 05:07:46 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 25, 2015, 10:14:18 AM
If only they had used the old vocals. These are terrible. And covered in layers of people who can sing now. Coverdale's voice died years ago. It was awesome whilst it lasted though.
Its a pretty crap cover all told tbh.

This. The biggest achievement here from Cov is looking older than Tommy Aldridge and that's tough to do ;D. This is possibly the finish for Whitesnake as he's clearly struggling even in a studio environment now.

I think Joel should've stuck with Night Ranger.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on February 25, 2015, 06:35:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2015, 05:07:46 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 25, 2015, 10:14:18 AM
If only they had used the old vocals. These are terrible. And covered in layers of people who can sing now. Coverdale's voice died years ago. It was awesome whilst it lasted though.
Its a pretty crap cover all told tbh.

This. The biggest achievement here from Cov is looking older than Tommy Aldridge and that's tough to do. This is possibly the finish for Whitesnake as he's clearly struggling even in a studio environment now.

I think Joel should've stuck with Night Ranger.

It's tough. I'm sure WS is a better pay-day over Night Ranger, and how much longer does Night Ranger have? I know they released a new album that year, but they basically just do the summer circuit every year. I believe Joel still plays with TSO, right? He can stay busy year around now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2015, 06:40:16 PM: Quote from: Deathless on February 25, 2015, 06:35:05 PM
I'm sure WS is a better pay-day over Night Ranger, and how much longer does Night Ranger have?

That's what I was getting at. Short term pay day and zero publishing vs (IMO) a much longer term writing and touring prospect with Night Ranger albeit to smaller crowds. Those guys seem determined to go on for some time yet and have the vocal chops to do it. And Reb seems to have finally taken over main guitarist duties in Whitesnake - which he deserves.

I dunno.........I think creatively and as a long term band Night Ranger is the better option. Of course a short term pay day with Whitsnake and then onto something else (incl TSO) is likely where he's at.

I'm not really rapt with what either band are doing . Whitesnake are really just a touring band now with Cov shrieking over background singers taking most of the weight and Night Ranger are a little too "happy" for my taste these days :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2015, 09:06:58 PM: Plenty for me to like in there.............

The official line-up for the 2015 MONSTERS OF ROCK CRUISE is as follows:

Tesla; Europe; Night Ranger; Tom Keifer of Cinderella; Extreme; KIX; Queensryche; Krokus; The Winery Dogs; Stryper; Lita Ford; Black Star Riders; Y&T; Zebra; Black ’N Blue; Faster Pussycat; Honeymoon Suite; Tyketto; Keel; John Corabi; Kip Winger; Michael Sweet; Richie Kotzen; Mike Tramp; Joel Hoekstra; Derek St. Holmes; Ron Keel; Leatherwolf; Babylon AD; Bang Tango; Heavens Edge; Frank Hannon Band; Lillian Axe; Rhino Bucket; Pamela Moore; Gabbie Rae; Atomic Punks; and AJ’s Bravehearts.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2015, 04:32:56 AM: Just discovered this Whitesnake news, seriously, WTF?!

This cover is so dull, lifeless, plodding and boring, with very poor vocals. And Reb's solo is average at best. I never thought I'd say that. What a joke of a release.

Jorn's version is decent, it's much better for a current version of the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVtljOiVILs
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 26, 2015, 04:46:22 AM: I quite like Jorn's version, terrible modern production aside. If Jorn's original stuff was half as good, I'd actually like it. I didn't mind the new Whitesnake version overall, but Coverdale is finally showing his age in the studio, and it's too processed. Had they just gone out with Forevermore, it would have been a perfect end.
Nothing will top the original Purple version.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2015, 04:55:39 AM: Even though Coverdale's voice is all but gone, this is more reason to do some new original material. Write around what he can do. Don't reproduce something that's obviously going to show many, many flaws.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 26, 2015, 05:40:37 AM: Yeah, that's what I said earlier too. Original material would allow him to write to his current range and style.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on February 26, 2015, 10:46:41 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2015, 09:06:58 PM
Plenty for me to like in there.............

The official line-up for the 2015 MONSTERS OF ROCK CRUISE is as follows:

Tesla; Europe; Night Ranger; Tom Keifer of Cinderella; Extreme; KIX; Queensryche; Krokus; The Winery Dogs; Stryper; Lita Ford; Black Star Riders; Y&T; Zebra; Black ’N Blue; Faster Pussycat; Honeymoon Suite; Tyketto; Keel; John Corabi; Kip Winger; Michael Sweet; Richie Kotzen; Mike Tramp; Joel Hoekstra; Derek St. Holmes; Ron Keel; Leatherwolf; Babylon AD; Bang Tango; Heavens Edge; Frank Hannon Band; Lillian Axe; Rhino Bucket; Pamela Moore; Gabbie Rae; Atomic Punks; and AJ’s Bravehearts.

Wow. REALLY strong lineup. There are a bunch of bands I would see if I were going.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 26, 2015, 03:05:40 PM: There are a few bands I've never heard of (gabbie Rae, Joel hoekstra, frank hannon, ajs brave hearts)

But overall, excellent line up!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on February 26, 2015, 03:16:36 PM: Frank Hannon is one of the guitarists from Tesla. He has had a solo band for a long time, but they are pretty low-profile.

Hoekstra has been the guitarist for Night Ranger and Whitesnake.

Never heard of Gabbie Rae before. Apparently, she is a young pop rock musician, and she is getting gigs with a lot of classic metal bands. Not bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EDsCuUWdTk

EDIT: Interesting and kinda cool covers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9H65GFpdww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-lxA13Eo1I
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2015, 03:36:09 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 26, 2015, 05:40:37 AM
Yeah, that's what I said earlier too. Original material would allow him to write to his current range and style.

Sort of missed the conversation on the last page due to my rage at the time. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2015, 04:01:22 PM: Honestly the lineup to the MOR Cruise looks like the 80's threw up on itself.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on February 26, 2015, 04:04:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 26, 2015, 04:01:22 PM
Honestly the lineup to the MOR Cruise looks like the 80's threw up on itself.

And that's a bad thing?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 26, 2015, 04:12:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 26, 2015, 04:01:22 PM
Honestly the lineup to the MOR Cruise looks like the 80's threw up on itself.

Awesome,isn't it? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2015, 04:37:43 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on February 26, 2015, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 26, 2015, 04:01:22 PM
Honestly the lineup to the MOR Cruise looks like the 80's threw up on itself.

And that's a bad thing?

Yes..

Quote from: bl5150 on February 26, 2015, 04:12:01 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 26, 2015, 04:01:22 PM
Honestly the lineup to the MOR Cruise looks like the 80's threw up on itself.

Awesome,isn't it? ;D

...and No. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on February 26, 2015, 04:55:02 PM: It's...it's almost like you are speaking English, Tim. But the words just don't make sense.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2015, 06:24:14 PM: East Coast, baby!

Gotta go pahk tha cah!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 26, 2015, 09:48:40 PM: Tim is turning heel on us!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2015, 06:11:03 PM: Evil Invaders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhgwRBb48VI

This is a new release believe it or not ..............not something I would bother with very often , but for anyone who was enjoying (or tolerating in my case ) speed metal in the mid-late 80's with the psychotic high pitched vocals you might get a grin on your face listening to this. I found it pretty entertaining in terms of the retro vibe ,if nothing else. ;D :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 28, 2015, 06:46:20 PM: A grin on my face? No kidding. I was cracking up. :lol

I MUST get this album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2015, 06:54:17 PM: ;D Best line in the song of course is (cue crazy metal vocal) "Fuck off!! Fuck off this bullshit! " :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 28, 2015, 06:57:03 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 28, 2015, 06:54:17 PM
;D Best line in the song of course is (cue crazy metal vocal) "Fuck off!! Fuck off this bullshit! " :lol
Yes, caught that!

The music put me in a time machine. It was cool. I'd like to check out another track first, But I may get this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 28, 2015, 07:32:24 PM: I wonder if they have any ballads
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2015, 07:38:38 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 28, 2015, 07:32:24 PM
I wonder if they have any ballads

They do...........it's called Fuck Off (Radio Edit) ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 28, 2015, 07:57:11 PM: They actually remind me of Agent Steel. Remember them?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2015, 07:57:35 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 28, 2015, 07:57:11 PM
They actually remind me of Agent Steel. Remember them?

Yeah........crossed my mind too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2015, 04:07:41 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 28, 2015, 06:11:03 PM
Evil Invaders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhgwRBb48VI

This is a new release believe it or not ..............not something I would bother with very often , but for anyone who was enjoying (or tolerating in my case ) speed metal in the mid-late 80's with the psychotic high pitched vocals you might get a grin on your face listening to this. I found it pretty entertaining in terms of the retro vibe ,if nothing else. ;D :metal

This isn't bad at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 01, 2015, 01:18:51 PM: Bravewords gave it an 8.5!
https://bravewords.com/reviews/evil-invaders-pules-of-pleasure
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2015, 04:13:26 AM: Bravewords reviews are always pretty credible.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 02, 2015, 12:09:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 02, 2015, 04:13:26 AM
Bravewords reviews are always pretty credible.
Yeah, for the most part.

I visit 3 music sites daily:
DTF
Bravewords
Dime
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 02, 2015, 12:36:50 PM: I pretty much just visit DTF and the blabbermouth.

Bravewords is a good site too
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 02:10:23 PM: I'm disturbed by the lack of Europe in this very thread! :angry:

Europe - Days Of Rock And Roll [New song 2015] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u12ZfBmNymc)

A group that imo is a solid example of "aged with dignity". Seen them 3 times and they always put out a solid show with top notch sound.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2015, 02:18:44 PM: decent tune
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2015, 02:23:13 PM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 02:10:23 PM
I'm disturbed by the lack of Europe in this very thread! :angry:

That's cuz they belong in this thread.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=29408.2975
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 02:44:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 03, 2015, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 02:10:23 PM
I'm disturbed by the lack of Europe in this very thread! :angry:

That's cuz they belong in this thread.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=29408.2975
Oh sry :facepalm: :blush

Nevermind then :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2015, 02:54:43 PM: I should have followed my post with a ;D.

Didn't mean to come off like an ass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 03:08:21 PM: No man you didn't come off like an ass! :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2015, 03:52:54 PM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 03:08:21 PM
No man you didn't come off like an ass! :)

Yeah, he sorta did. ;D

jk.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2015, 03:57:03 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 04:04:25 PM: Ok you did come off like an...

(https://www.veganpeace.com/animal_facts/images/donkey1.jpg)

....shame on you!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2015, 04:30:17 PM: People that know me know that Dream Theater and Iron Maiden are 1A and 1B for me. Well 1C is UFO. Been a lifelong fan.

So, I just had my first listen to UFO's A Conspiracy Of Stars.

I REALLY like it. Very solid from front to back. Tracks 7 & 8 were a slight dip, but the rest of it is pretty strong. This is the 5th album of the Vinnie Moore era. So far, I found the most consistent album has been The Visitor. This album reminds me of that. Such an improvement over Seven Deadly.
This, to me, is Vinnie's strongest album with the group. He was very active on You Are Here, and this reminds me of that a little. He really steps up. Some of his best UFO solos are present.

And it is always a treat hearing Phil Mogg's voice on new music. This guy is an absolute gift. I know he's never mentioned with all the greats, but that's what makes him even more special. Just so genuine.

Vinnie Era UFO has basically evolved into some laid back rock. No surprises here. But I believe they recorded this together, and it sounds that way. I am very happy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2015, 04:39:00 PM: Good to hear this about UFO. I've been following them since Vinnie joined and the albums have been hit or miss. I'll probably pick this one up now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2015, 04:40:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 03, 2015, 04:30:17 PM
People that know me know that Dream Theater and Iron Maiden are 1A and 1B for me. Well 1C is UFO. Been a lifelong fan.

So, I just had my first listen to UFO's A Conspiracy Of Stars.

I REALLY like it. Very solid from front to back. Tracks 7 & 8 were a slight dip, but the rest of it is pretty strong. This is the 5th album of the Vinnie Moore era. So far, I found the most consistent album has been The Visitor. This album reminds me of that. Such an improvement over Seven Deadly.
This, to me, is Vinnie's strongest album with the group. He was very active on You Are Here, and this reminds me of that a little. He really steps up. Some of his best UFO solos are present.

And it is always a treat hearing Phil Mogg's voice on new music. This guy is an absolute gift. I know he's never mentioned with all the greats, but that's what makes him even more special. Just so genuine.

Vinnie Era UFO has basically evolved into some laid back rock. No surprises here. But I believe they recorded this together, and it sounds that way. I am very happy.

Interesting........I have the UFO but didn't get around to a proper listen. A lot of fan reviews are saying Mogg's voice is totally shot , which I'm sure you'd be calling out if that was the case. I think perhaps it's more a case of him sticking to a range that he can handle.

Will try and give it a listen today.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2015, 04:50:25 PM: I don't think it's shot. I haven't been a fan of how it's been recorded recently though. I think that technology has taken some warmth out of his voice. But even if he has lost range, his voice is total comfort for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2015, 05:01:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 03, 2015, 04:39:00 PM
I've been following them since Vinnie joined and the albums have been hit or miss.

You Are Here..Half is great, half is not
The Monkey Puzzle..Same, half is great, half is not
The Visitor...The most solid, though its best are not on par with the best from You Are Here or TMP
Seven Deadly..the worst so far
A Conspiracy Of Stars...Just about on par with The Visitor

IMO, of course.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2015, 06:18:48 PM: What would you rank as the quentisential UFO.

I have Strangers and a Best of
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2015, 06:23:12 PM: If you live in the US and want an instant metal collection...........

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Over-400-Metal-Rock-Catalog-Many-Out-Of-Print-And-Rare-Savatage-Slayer-/221705741630?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:AU:3160
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2015, 04:41:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 03, 2015, 06:23:12 PM
If you live in the US and want an instant metal collection...........

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Over-400-Metal-Rock-Catalog-Many-Out-Of-Print-And-Rare-Savatage-Slayer-/221705741630?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:AU:3160

Wow, incredible starting price. No bids, really?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2015, 05:17:02 AM: Well I just got through my first listen of the new UFO and it does very little for me. Take that in the context of my being a very casual UFO fan. They have a couple of albums I really like but for the most part I've never been a big fan aside from a track or two off each album - in terms of Schenker stuff I much prefer his MSG output.

One thing that has become a bit clearer (having read a swag of new reviews on the album) is that diehard UFO fans almost universally love it. So if you're a big fan.........it's probably an auto purchase.

For me though it's missing the two elements I like in my music - big melodies and/or some fire/balls.....preferably both. It's typical of the sort of bluesy/plodding 70's rock that I've never liked much and the sort of vibe Europe are trying to get these days.......at least Mogg has a voice better suited to it than Joey Tempest. As far as the vocals go - I'll cut the guy some slack............for a 66 year old it's a very solid performance but it is very monotone/range free stuff that's not unlike Ian Gillan since he lost his range. I don't like much modern DP either - the difference here is that I do prefer Vinnie Moore to Steve Morse. And Moore's playing does save a few songs for me - he seems to have imposed himself on the music a bit more here and it helps. There's a couple of ripping solos.

I will say that the Chris Tsangirides production is a big step up from other recent efforts-it's a very good sounding album. But of the 11 songs (including a pretty decent bonus track) I rated 4 that I might want to listen to again and nothing got 5 stars.

So my rating is around 69% which isn't terrible by any means but it's really just not my style of music .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2015, 05:43:47 AM: By the way - I was down at my local pub tonight and got a surprise to see an upcoming gig there by Uriah Heep. You could probably count the number of people in the local area who know of them on one hand I reckon :D
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Post by: TAC on March 04, 2015, 05:55:33 AM: I'm on my iPhone so I'll respond to those UFO comments when I get home. :omg:

The last three Uriah Heep albums have been really solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2015, 05:58:46 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 04, 2015, 05:55:33 AM
I'm on my iPhone so I'll respond to those UFO comments when I get home. :omg:

The last three Uriah Heep albums have been really solid.

:lol Knew I'd be in trouble.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 04, 2015, 06:49:38 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 03, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
What would you rank as the quentisential UFO.

I have Strangers and a Best of
Strangers culls its tracks from the 5 70's Schenker albums:
Phenomenon '74
Force It '75
No Heavy Petting '76
Lights Out '77
Obsession '78

JJ, Obsession is probably the heaviest of the bunch, with Schenker ripping all over it. I think you'd like that a lot. Force It probably has the strongest material, but my personal favorite is NHP, which contains Schenker's finest playing.

The Wild The Willing And The Innocent (1981) is the 2nd of the 4 Paul Chapman albums and is a masterpiece.

Walk On Water, the 1993 Reunion album of the Strangers lineup is also a must have.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 04, 2015, 06:57:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 04, 2015, 05:17:02 AM
Well I just got through my first listen of the new UFO and it does very little for me. Take that in the context of my being a very casual UFO fan. They have a couple of albums I really like but for the most part I've never been a big fan aside from a track or two off each album - in terms of Schenker stuff I much prefer his MSG output.

One thing that has become a bit clearer (having read a swag of new reviews on the album) is that diehard UFO fans almost universally love it. So if you're a big fan.........it's probably an auto purchase.

For me though it's missing the two elements I like in my music - big melodies and/or some fire/balls.....preferably both. It's typical of the sort of bluesy/plodding 70's rock that I've never liked much and the sort of vibe Europe are trying to get these days.......at least Mogg has a voice better suited to it than Joey Tempest. As far as the vocals go - I'll cut the guy some slack............for a 66 year old it's a very solid performance but it is very monotone/range free stuff that's not unlike Ian Gillan since he lost his range. I don't like much modern DP either - the difference here is that I do prefer Vinnie Moore to Steve Morse. And Moore's playing does save a few songs for me - he seems to have imposed himself on the music a bit more here and it helps. There's a couple of ripping solos.

I will say that the Chris Tsangirides production is a big step up from other recent efforts-it's a very good sounding album. But of the 11 songs (including a pretty decent bonus track) I rated 4 that I might want to listen to again and nothing got 5 stars.

So my rating is around 69% which isn't terrible by any means but it's really just not my style of music .

If I'm being completely honest, Brent, there's a lot of truth in your post.

I'm a lifelong UFO fan and they've always been a favorite band of mine. Just hearing Phil Mogg's voice transports me to being a 15 year old kid again, so I'm not all that objective.

Vinnie era UFO, in all honesty has been a huge disappointment. I thought they had great energy on You Are Here, but I realize a lot of that had to do with Jason Bonham, similar to how Russel Gilbrook has driven recent Uriah Heep. He's made a huge difference. Andy Parker's drumming is purely pedestrian at this point.
UFO has settled into this almost Rolling Stones-ish vibe under Vinnie.

The bar, unfortunately is set pretty low at this point. I'm halfway through my second listen, and I still say I really like this, but your Deep Purple analogy is actually a great one. I think you really have to be a strong DP fan to get into their recent output. I just cannot make it through one of their albums.

UFO's last album was terrible. That sucks. This album is a huge step up. All this coming from a huge UFO fan.

One point I will disagree with though is that Schenker's work in MSG has never approached anything he did on those classic UFO albums.
He has some nice work on the early MSG albums, but for the most part, he's hasn't really done anything special in a very long time. Now Bridge The Gap is the best band oriented thing he's done in MSG since Save Yourself, but other than Adventures Of The Imagination, everything he's done has been pretty forgettable. That is until Bridge The Gap which is incredible. Also Doogie White's best performance. Can't wait for their new album in a couple weeks!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2015, 07:10:00 AM: The oldest UFO albums I have are Obsession and Strangers (loved a couple of tracks on both but wasn't fussed on most) ..........so perhaps I need to go back and check out some of the deeper cuts that aren't on Strangers.

It's almost a given though that the further back into the 70's I go the less I tend to like ;D Although my No 1 all time album is from 1978 (but sounds totally different to most 70's albums) I just don't seem to connect with much released pre 1980 outside of maybe half a dozen bands. It may well be that Schenker's playing is better in that era but chances are I will like the 80's songs better.

I will go back and check out some of that stuff though. I may be pleasantly surprised.

Take this for what it is (one person's opinion) but someone I know who has an advance copy of Spirit On A Mission says it blows away Bridging The Gap.
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Post by: TAC on March 04, 2015, 07:33:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 04, 2015, 07:10:00 AM
Take this for what it is (one person's opinion) but someone I know who has an advance copy of Spirit On A Mission says it blows away Bridging The Gap.

That's good to hear. Vigilante Man didn't really do anything for me, but I have very high hopes for this album!

The early UFO albums are really great. Not sure you'd like Phenomenon, because other than Rock Bottom, it's kind of mellow in a early 70's way. But thinks really started to pick up with Force It.

UFO could be highly inconsistent. There is a lot of competition out there for one's ears. I get that.
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2015, 04:35:01 AM: New Pyramaze in May.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1G4V6ztfDNM

Sounds good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2015, 05:29:05 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 16, 2015, 04:35:01 AM
New Pyramaze in May.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1G4V6ztfDNM

Sounds good.

It does sound promising - it's a shame they didn't manage to get their shit together while Urban Breed was in the fold though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: LudwigVan on March 16, 2015, 01:43:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 04, 2015, 07:33:58 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 04, 2015, 07:10:00 AM
Take this for what it is (one person's opinion) but someone I know who has an advance copy of Spirit On A Mission says it blows away Bridging The Gap.

That's good to hear. Vigilante Man didn't really do anything for me, but I have very high hopes for this album!

The early UFO albums are really great. Not sure you'd like Phenomenon, because other than Rock Bottom, it's kind of mellow in a early 70's way. But thinks really started to pick up with Force It.

UFO could be highly inconsistent. There is a lot of competition out there for one's ears. I get that.

I'll throw my 2 cents in with Force It being my favorite UFO album.

Probably followed by Lights Out, then
No Heavy Petting close on its heels.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 16, 2015, 02:19:40 PM: To me, the five classic Schenker era albums are all must haves!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 18, 2015, 11:48:20 PM: The guy singing this is the new singer for Red Dragon Cartel :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ARDVpi_n0
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2015, 12:11:16 AM: That Smith singer didn't impress me live; I never heard the full studio album. Seems like it got mixed reviews.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2015, 12:17:30 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2015, 12:11:16 AM
That Smith singer didn't impress me live; I never heard the full studio album. Seems like it got mixed reviews.

I never really bothered to come back to it after the first couple of listens. Smith was a great drummer/backing singer in Harem Scarem and did great on the odd lead vocal but he's not full time lead singer material. This new guy that Jake has hired in the 5 minutes after Smith left doesn't inspire me either. Jake has enough pull to get someone decent - I wish he would. And he needs someone decent to pull off RDC, Badlands and Ozzy stuff live. Zander actually sounded good on the track he did on the debut album but if he featured across a whole album I'm sure the touring side of things wouldn't work and I can't really imagine him singing Hard Driver or Bark At The Moon ;D.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2015, 12:31:04 AM: Was Smith fired?

And you're right, Lee could definitely get a bigger name who fits singing those songs
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2015, 05:25:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 18, 2015, 11:48:20 PM
The guy singing this is the new singer for Red Dragon Cartel :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ARDVpi_n0
So he went from a dude from Harem Scarem to a dude from Scary Hairy?? :lol

The song or two that I heard from RDC, I thought the vocals were terrible. I like the new guy a lot more.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2015, 05:29:30 AM: I didn't even give that album a listen. The tracks that were released as videos I thought were pretty shit unfortunately.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2015, 05:58:28 AM: New TMac coming in April. Already pre-ordered my copy;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq2f9j4KIs8
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 21, 2015, 07:24:15 AM: RIP AJ Pero ............passed away at 55 :-\
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 21, 2015, 08:22:21 AM: very sad news......RIP
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 06:48:07 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2015, 12:31:04 AM
Was Smith fired?

And you're right, Lee could definitely get a bigger name who fits singing those songs

Darren had this to say about the move: "IT IS TRUE I LEFT RDC, KINDA COMPLICATED BUT I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. ONE DAY ILL COMMENT MORE, FOR NOW "THATS ALL FOLKS!!!"

Sounds like he got sacked :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on March 22, 2015, 06:49:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 06:48:07 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2015, 12:31:04 AM
Was Smith fired?

And you're right, Lee could definitely get a bigger name who fits singing those songs

Darren had this to say about the move: "IT IS TRUE I LEFT RDC, KINDA COMPLICATED BUT I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. ONE DAY ILL COMMENT MORE, FOR NOW "THATS ALL FOLKS!!!"

Sounds like he got sacked :lol

Shit, that got me laughing alright. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 09:11:04 AM: Back from holidays now and it'll take a week or two to get on top of things , but hopefully I can get our lists back on track with some work on 1987. It's probably my first real holiday from work and music in 20 years and now that I've returned I'm realising just how much work I put into keeping up with music and related correspondence that I get sent . It might just be checking out sound/reviews of 4-5 albums a day but over 2 weeks it's built up into a hell of a pile. TAC will be glad to know that I have the new Schenker album sitting here , so I'll try and get some thoughts out on that shortly.

I've never posted photos/personal stuff on DTF and this isn't really the thread, but it's where all the cool kids hang out so what the hell ;D I thought for some laughs I'd update you on my little fella Ben and his Jedi Metal Master training - he has just progressed through the latest level with flying colors and the force is strong in him as you can see. He is also a Monopoly addict , but now insists on KISSopoly :metal . Click to enlarge if reqd.

(https://s14.postimg.org/yo8y87rw1/IMG_5333.jpg) (https://s3.postimg.org/4havn3bab/IMG_5248.jpg)

For those of you who are fashionistas you're no doubt wondering "Who are you wearing?". Well my board shorts are by Quicksilver and my t-shirt is a joint effort by David Lee Roth and Jack Daniels :lol

The good news from my point of view is that I'm finally getting around unaided (still with plenty of discomfort) and got myself into decent physical shape over the last few weeks after the best part of a year on my ass....back to a lean 95kg. It's been hard work and this holiday was in an area with plenty of hills ,so I've walked myself into the ground , worked out a lot and tested myself out in the surf on my first visit to the beach in a year. I won't say it was a great success but it was nice to get out there again. Now we'll see if I can recover financially ,which will be much harder. :-[

Oh......got myself some KISS tickets while away. Good seats etc... I had pretty much decided not to bother again and have missed the last couple of tours - they're my most seen band (6 or 7 times) and Paul hasn't been in great shape vocally of late , but I couldn't resist seeing this Spider stage that's visiting OZ for the first time and it's just such an event seeing half of Melbourne in KISS make up on the night. I've missed that experience and may not get the chance again. They'll easily sell out Rod Laver Arena (centre court for the Australian Open Tennis) which I imagine will be 10-12,000 people and they likely could do a 2nd gig there if they wanted.

Anyway.......lost of stuff to catch up on. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 22, 2015, 09:16:59 AM: Good to hear you're feeling better!!

And it sounds like the Benster is turning into a solid rocker
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 22, 2015, 09:30:50 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 09:11:04 AM
I've never posted photos/personal stuff on DTF and this isn't really the thread, but it's where all the cool kids hang out so what the hell ;D
Yes, it is definitely the "cool" thread!

I'm getting the MSG on Tuesday, but likely buying the mp3's as Amazon is listing the album at $30 compared to $9 for the DL. Judging on your ratings for the new UFO, not sure if I want to read what you have to say about the MSG. ;D

Also, where are those pics taken?? I always assume there's salt water crocs waiting around.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 22, 2015, 01:41:35 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 22, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
Good to hear you're feeling better!!

And it sounds like the Benster is turning into a solid rocker

Yeah, seconded.
My kids were singing along to Night Ranger today in the car. Well, the sun was out and it was an unseasonally nice day here in the north of England so some of the "good weather" music came out. NR, Survivor, Van Halen (the kids loved Jump!), and BJ's New Jersey.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 05:09:13 PM: Thanks guys...........as far as where the photos were taken Tim - it was south east Queensland (Sunshine Coast). It was always my favourite holiday spot but unfortunately these days it carries mixed feelings for me as (very long story short) a project I got involved in there with some less than honorable partners a number of years back has turned me from a retired 35 yo into a struggling 40 yo and that's before the leg. Anyway ::)

You can draw a line across the northernmost 10-15% of Australia and that's saltwater croc country - so I wasn't that far north. There's not too much to worry about in Noosa from the wildlife - plenty of scary looking lizards/goannas and so forth but they're not looking to do you harm. I saw my first koala in the wild on this trip and got some nice photos of him too. :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 08:33:26 PM: I'm through my first listen to Schenker's newie and it's much more my cup of tea than the UFO. It does have the odd plodder (Brent tunes out) but for the most part it's a nice combination of bands like MSG , UFO, Thin Lizzy etc.....one track has a distinct Rainbow vibe too. I seem to be saying this a lot lately but it's 3 or 4 tracks too long. If they'd stopped at track 8 my rating would be somewhere close to 90%. As it is though tracks 9 through 11 are IMHO filler and the final track sorta gets things back on track a bit.

On the whole though it's a nicely rocking record that has more balls and inspiration in its little finger than the UFO had. Speaking of inspiration Doogie's aping of Glenn Hughes on the second track was just a bit too obvious. :lol

On the whole : 82% and that could grow a bit with time ,if anything. I'm sure most here will at least like a few tracks on it.
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Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2015, 05:38:52 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 05:09:13 PM
Thanks guys...........as far as where the photos were taken Tim - it was south east Queensland (Sunshine Coast). It was always my favourite holiday spot but unfortunately these days it carries mixed feelings for me as (very long story short) a project I got involved in there with some less than honorable partners a number of years back has turned me from a retired 35 yo into a struggling 40 yo and that's before the leg. Anyway ::)

I never really understood the love for the Sunny Coast to be honest.
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2015, 11:59:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 23, 2015, 05:38:52 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 05:09:13 PM
Thanks guys...........as far as where the photos were taken Tim - it was south east Queensland (Sunshine Coast). It was always my favourite holiday spot but unfortunately these days it carries mixed feelings for me as (very long story short) a project I got involved in there with some less than honorable partners a number of years back has turned me from a retired 35 yo into a struggling 40 yo and that's before the leg. Anyway ::)
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I never really understood the love for the Sunny Coast to be honest.

The scenery looked amazing.

Thanks for the update on the Schenker. Looking forward to hearing it!
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Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2015, 03:22:30 PM: I guess it is a nice holiday destination. I guess I'm just more of a city guy, never been much into beaches and stuff. For me, just doesn't seem like much up there. Saying that, I also have some nice memories as a kid going up there yearly visiting relatives.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2015, 05:19:51 PM: Check out Jim's hair dudes :lol It's like Metal Wayne's World.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCWw1fQIvSo
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2015, 06:08:30 PM: Was thinking about AJ Pero and classic Twisted Sister today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpHxf3t_igU
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2015, 06:13:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 23, 2015, 06:08:30 PM
Was thinking about AJ Pero and classic Twisted Sister today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpHxf3t_igU

:metal Did the movie "We Are Twisted Fucking Sister" ever get a DVD release? I can't find any reference to it.
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2015, 06:18:10 PM: I'm not sure. The trailer was fantastic and gave me goosebumps.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2015, 10:54:05 PM: It doesn't sound much like Bonfire without Claus but I like David Reece and this sounds alright to me. Will keep an ear out in April for its release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v56ncU2J7XU&
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 24, 2015, 03:04:54 AM: Never heard that Reece is in Bonfire. That's a solid band and the song sounds pretty good.

I would also like to see that TS doc, looks great!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2015, 05:47:43 AM: I thought I had a bit of a find for you guys today - that Project Ravenblack I posted in the album thread. Some little known guitarist who has managed to get guys like Boals , Doogie White, Jon Oliva, Andre Matos etc....to sing on his album. I'm only 2/3rds through but unfortunately it's like most of these multi vocalist albums - the roster is far more impressive than the songs :-\
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Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2015, 06:10:49 AM: Damn man, that list of singers is too damn good.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2015, 06:12:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 24, 2015, 06:10:49 AM
Damn man, that list of singers is too damn good.

And I left out James Christian and Amanda Somerville :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2015, 06:16:20 AM: Not worth a listen at all?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2015, 06:21:52 AM: It's certainly listenable/competent but IMO the songs just ain't anything special. Not terrible but I'd be struggling to rate it much more than 65-70%

I thought you may like to check it out anyway which is the only reason I bothered noting it. Having said that - just don't expect anything fantastic.

Here's the website

https://www.ravenblackproject.com/home/

Worth a look to see the latest possum Boals has on his scone ;D
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Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2015, 04:13:59 PM: I'm just getting more picky. Anything doesn't doesn't really prick my interest right away I'm happy to disregard. Doesn't matter who's involved anymore, must be getting old. :lol

EDIT: lol @ Boals. He fits in Dokken nicely.
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2015, 06:20:19 AM: Halfway through my first listen of the new Schenker and I'm loving it. He's added some chunkiness while keeping his trademark sound. lots of tasty licks so far. So far a worthy follow up to Bridge The Gap.

Yes this rocks much harder than the UFO, but unfortunately that is what UFO is at this point. But I will say Vinnie has added a ton of shred to his solos on Stars. I've always felt he's held back that part of his playing for the most part, but he seems to let loose a little more.
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2015, 06:56:04 AM: Damn.
https://bravewords.com/news/death-sound-of-perseverance-bassist-scott-clendenin-passes
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2015, 07:05:56 AM: Triple post FTW!! :metal

Quote from: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 08:33:26 PM
I'm through my first listen to Schenker's newie and it's much more my cup of tea than the UFO. It does have the odd plodder (Brent tunes out) but for the most part it's a nice combination of bands like MSG , UFO, Thin Lizzy etc.....one track has a distinct Rainbow vibe too. I seem to be saying this a lot lately but it's 3 or 4 tracks too long. If they'd stopped at track 8 my rating would be somewhere close to 90%. As it is though tracks 9 through 11 are IMHO filler and the final track sorta gets things back on track a bit.

OK, now I'm through my first listen. This album is awesome!!

Brent, the latter part of the album didn't drag for me as it did for you, but generally speaking, ALL albums are 3-4 songs too long.
Now I feel about Schenker the way you/Brent feels about Eddie Van Halen.
Michael Schenker is my absolute favorite guitar player. My biggest problem over his career is that he is very song oriented, and rarely takes the selfish approach and shows you why he's so freaking amazing. To me, that's led to a lot of mediocre stuff. And while the first Temple Of Rock album was all over the place, these last two have been fantastic.

I think the songs on Bridge The Gap are better written and more memorable, and while Schenker sounds great, he stops just short of going off. But he is the most unleashed on Spirit that I can literally ever remember. I'm thinking as far back as Obsession. Seriously.

The album loses points for some cheesy lyrics.

Edit: And there is no way that this is Bucholz and Rarebell is it?? Wow! Especially Rarebell. I thought he sucked in Scorpions. Maybe they are responsible for Schenker's inspiration..

93% :P
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Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2015, 07:13:44 AM: :D Aside from that run from track 9-11 I think we're on the same page here. I think his slightly more adventurous playing was what made me think of Written In The Sand - he plays great on that and plenty of fans don't even know that record exists. When I picked it up it was a Jap only release but it copped a Euro release later . if you have the Euro release and want the re-recorded Into The Arena and Cry For The Nations (Jap only) , let me know.

Glad you liked it as much as anticipated.

Shit - did you just edit that up a point while I was typing? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 26, 2015, 03:36:45 AM: Haven't been to a pub gig in years for a variety of reasons but a big one is that nobody plays any decent music any more :lol So what the hell........me and the little sis are going to a quadruple tribute show this Saturday night. Should attract an interesting crowd.

KISS , Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and Poison tributes all on the one night.

(https://a1.images.venuescms.com/image/upload/s--ewD5o9MZ--/t_item_image_optimized/item_31343_20150223120846_289903)
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 26, 2015, 03:53:12 AM: Hopefully lots of Cougars at the show!

Always enjoy tribute bands
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 26, 2015, 04:00:13 AM: That show looks amazing. Cover/tribute bands can be entertaining whether they're good or bad, because picking them apart is half the fun when you know the band well. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2015, 05:39:36 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7UxOrBb0Is

Whitesnake's new version of Burn. Fucking horrible. Why is Reb's guitar playing so shit?

Again, Jorn's recent version is much better. Hell, WASP's version from their last album was a ton better too.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 26, 2015, 05:41:53 AM: I suppose this shows you how much faith you can place in reviews sometimes. The Purple Album is getting very strong reviews from what I've seen .........as far as I'm concerned Cov sounds bloody awful , even with all the studio tricks at his disposal.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 26, 2015, 06:46:34 AM: JJ asked for my view on the new Impellitteri in the album thread,so................

It's classic Impellitteri/Racer X type stuff if that floats your boat - over the top metal with intense riffs/solos , pretty lame lyrics and so on.................in other words , super awesome :lol

By the end of the disc I was a bit over it but I had a huge grin on my face as things got started with the opening (and title) track. It's just so :metal :metal it's hard to know whether to bang your head or laugh or both. Imagine an awesome intense riff and then Rob Rock comes in over the top in classic metal screamer style with:

"Are you readyyyyyyyyyyy - one , two , three...............Venoooooooooooooooooooooom" :lol :metal :metal

The opening track is a ball tearer but I rate the album 75% overall - it's just a bit one dimensional but I love that title track just for its over the top metal-ness ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 26, 2015, 06:52:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 26, 2015, 05:39:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7UxOrBb0Is

Whitesnake's new version of Burn. Fucking horrible. Why is Reb's guitar playing so shit?

Again, Jorn's recent version is much better. Hell, WASP's version from their last album was a ton better too.

Jorn's version is terrible, completely unlistenable. His singing is of course great, but musically it's a trainwreck. You can't tell what beat it's even supposed to be on because of the crappy triggered metal drumming, and the guitars are awful. Original > everything.

I thought the new Whitesnake cover was slightly better than their Stormbringer cover. Musically I thought it was overall decent, but Coverdale can't sing that song as good as the original even tuned down, and the solos aren't up to the original.
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 26, 2015, 06:55:57 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 26, 2015, 03:53:12 AM
Hopefully lots of Cougars at the show!

Always enjoy tribute bands

There cover cougars just like the bands. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 26, 2015, 08:28:37 AM: I'm not gonna even check out the samples to that Whitesnake, and definetely not picking it up.

Impellitteri disc sounds cool
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Post by: bl5150 on March 27, 2015, 07:37:02 AM: OK JJ...........Black Star Riders. Like the UFO there's my opinion and the rest , and my opinion on this is about the same :lol The new Black Star Riders -like the UFO - seems to be getting glowing reviews wherever you look. To me it's okay but for a large part it was a snooze. The title track is pretty strong , there are a few cool tracks in the mid section and the closer rocks a bit but for the most part I'd say "only if you're a Thin Lizzy completist."

I'm not sure that I like a singer purposely aping another singer like Warwick does - admittedly it's more pronounced on some tracks than others. The title track sounds like it's trying to be The Boys Are Back In Town II. You said you really liked that track ,so then perhaps that's a start. I didn't like it at first but it's growing on me.

In terms of the whole album it's mostly this sort of middle of the road , plodding semi-bluesy classic rock. Now my ears can tolerate anything from very pissweak to very heavy - ideally heavy and melodic. If it's not heavy then it needs to have lush melodies etc..... and if it doesn't have huge melodies it needs to have balls at the very least. This sort of stuff sits in the middle of nowhere for me - it's not very melodic and it has little in the way of intent/balls.

As I said - my opinion seems to be in the minority on this one but at the very least I'd recommend a good listen before buying. Listenable but mostly uninspiring for me.......with 3 or 4 stand out tracks.

I rate it around 72% but I expect you'll like it better than me .
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 27, 2015, 10:01:15 AM: Copy, thanks Brent
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Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2015, 03:12:00 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 26, 2015, 06:52:34 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 26, 2015, 05:39:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7UxOrBb0Is

Whitesnake's new version of Burn. Fucking horrible. Why is Reb's guitar playing so shit?

Again, Jorn's recent version is much better. Hell, WASP's version from their last album was a ton better too.

Jorn's version is terrible, completely unlistenable. His singing is of course great, but musically it's a trainwreck. You can't tell what beat it's even supposed to be on because of the crappy triggered metal drumming, and the guitars are awful. Original > everything.

I thought the new Whitesnake cover was slightly better than their Stormbringer cover. Musically I thought it was overall decent, but Coverdale can't sing that song as good as the original even tuned down, and the solos aren't up to the original.

You go out of your way to disagree with me hey? :lol

The solos were one of my biggest problems, they are terrible IMO, Reb's sounds awful and Joel adds nothing.
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Post by: TAC on March 27, 2015, 04:12:49 PM: Freaking awesome!!
I LOVE Flotsam & Jetsam. What a great choice to replace Kelly Smith!
https://bravewords.com/news/flotsam-and-jetsam-drum-tracking-with-jason-bittner-video
Loses a cymbal at 4:48. :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on March 28, 2015, 08:00:56 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 26, 2015, 06:52:34 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 26, 2015, 05:39:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7UxOrBb0Is

Whitesnake's new version of Burn. Fucking horrible. Why is Reb's guitar playing so shit?

Again, Jorn's recent version is much better. Hell, WASP's version from their last album was a ton better too.

Jorn's version is terrible, completely unlistenable. His singing is of course great, but musically it's a trainwreck. You can't tell what beat it's even supposed to be on because of the crappy triggered metal drumming, and the guitars are awful. Original > everything.

I thought the new Whitesnake cover was slightly better than their Stormbringer cover. Musically I thought it was overall decent, but Coverdale can't sing that song as good as the original even tuned down, and the solos aren't up to the original.

Its a really stupid idea to redo songs which had awesome vocals when you can't sing anymore.

I love this one though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm2tfr5sCH4
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 28, 2015, 09:28:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 27, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
You go out of your way to disagree with me hey? :lol

Don't take it personally bud, I happen to disagree with everyone on DTF when it comes to music. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2015, 01:54:09 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 28, 2015, 09:28:35 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 27, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
You go out of your way to disagree with me hey? :lol

Don't take it personally bud, I happen to disagree with everyone on DTF when it comes to music. :lol

I know, only kidding mate, I honestly can't remember the last time I've ever been offended by someone. :lol

In reference to Paul's link, it's also dumb I might add to redo some of these songs without Glenn Hughes. I know Coverdale explains that a bit in the EPK, but still pointless IMO.
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2015, 05:59:21 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAabzMP5WSg

Impelitteri video. Actually pretty solid, some nice riffs in there.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2015, 06:09:50 AM: That was my favourite on the album by some way. Good to see Yngwie on vocals too :lol ......I may well be the only one who sees some resemblance. :angel:
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 29, 2015, 09:42:33 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 29, 2015, 05:59:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAabzMP5WSg

Impelitteri video. Actually pretty solid, some nice riffs in there.

very good! I also really like the album cover!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 29, 2015, 12:42:34 PM: :lol How did I know you guys were gonna like that one? Musically I liked it, but that chorus was cheesy as hell.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2015, 12:27:56 AM: I haven't posted any old stuff for reminiscing of late so...........

Earlier today I caught up with an old friend - unfortunately one of the very few people I know outside of DTF who I can talk to about decent music :lol He insisted that I open the vaults and get out some Van Halen stuff. None of this has seen the light of day since we moved house 10 years ago.

I cannot believe what I have stashed away - it's been that long. I had to pull literally dozens of cardboard rolls (each filled with at least half a dozen wall size posters) just to get to the other stuff.

Anyway.........now that I've started I may actually go through some of this stuff in coming months. I really want to find the photo of me and EVH too. So below we have framed mint condition tees from all of the full headlining world tours with DLR from (left to right) 1979 thru 1984 , each with a backstage pass and concert ticket. I took a photo as I thought some of you guys might enjoy a gander.

(https://s10.postimg.org/vdl1flkfd/vhframes.jpg)

I had a bit of trouble with the reflective surfaces , hence the angle.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 31, 2015, 06:49:05 AM: Cool stuff!
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Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2015, 03:50:38 PM: Bloody hell, nice Brent.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 29, 2015, 12:42:34 PM
:lol How did I know you guys were gonna like that one? Musically I liked it, but that chorus was cheesy as hell.

We expect the cheese with someone like Impelitteri. :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 31, 2015, 03:52:31 PM: That's a cool picture, Brent!
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Post by: Lowdz on March 31, 2015, 04:09:29 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 31, 2015, 06:49:05 AM
Cool stuff!

Nice. I just wore my shirtsto death and binned them Regretting it now.
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Post by: TAC on March 31, 2015, 05:33:19 PM: Soulspell cover of Helloween's We Got The Right:
https://bravewords.com/news/soulspell-video-of-helloween-cover-we-got-the-right-released-features-appearances-by-tim-ripper-owens-blaze-bayley-arjen-lucassen-more

Some damn good singers I've never heard of on this. I'm thinking where the hell are they going to wedge Blaze Bayley in this? :lol
The beginning of course! Brilliant!

The original Helloween version might be the singly greatest vocal these ears have every heard, especially considering Kiske was just 20 when he recorded it.
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Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2015, 05:48:10 PM: Will check that one out later when I'm not at work. Yeah, Blaze singing on a Kiske song boggles the mind a bit.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2015, 10:51:01 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 31, 2015, 04:09:29 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 31, 2015, 06:49:05 AM
Cool stuff!

Nice. I just wore my shirtsto death and binned them Regretting it now.

I wore a few of my faves to death and really had no choice but to chuck 'em. The main one that comes to mind was a Satriani Flying In A Blue Dream tour shirt which had the album cover on the front and cool flouro green guitar on the back. I literally wore it until it fell to bits.

(https://s29.postimg.org/wottdvr5z/satch.jpg)

One interesting thing I found with VH shirts was that some of the best looking ones were sold out of the back of vans at the gigs. I'm sure the same thing will be happening in October when I see KISS but they'll be shit :lol Most of the present day Ebay sellers either lie or are unaware that they're "unofficial" but they were really amazing and command big dollars (many hundreds). I'll see if I can find one of mine around here later. Perhaps TAC might know but I bought a couple of shirts off Matt Bruck (Ed's guitar tech) back in the early 90's and he said that the rumour was that Vince Neil was behind a lot of these cool bootleg VH shirts in the early 80's.
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Post by: TAC on April 01, 2015, 05:54:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 31, 2015, 10:51:01 PM
One interesting thing I found with VH shirts was that some of the best looking ones were sold out of the back of vans at the gigs. I'm sure the same thing will be happening in October when I see KISS but they'll be shit :lol Most of the present day Ebay sellers either lie or are unaware that they're "unofficial" but they were really amazing and command big dollars (many hundreds). I'll see if I can find one of mine around here later. Perhaps TAC might know but I bought a couple of shirts off Matt Bruck (Ed's guitar tech) back in the early 90's and he said that the rumour was that Vince Neil was behind a lot of these cool bootleg VH shirts in the early 80's.

I did not know about the Vince Neil connection. Yes, the bootleg t shirts were always awesome to see. I don't remember buying many. They were usually the 100% cotton ones that became completely deformed after one wash/dry cycle. But what I remember what the bootleggers did do a great job with was that if there was a decent opening bad, they would find a way to include both the headliner and the opener on the same shirt.

I had four trash bags filled with my shirts when I moved out of my parents' house. Somewhere along the way, 3 of them disappeared. I have one still in my attic. At one point in my life, I could've worn a different Iron Maiden shirt for a month without repeats.

Here's probably my favorites:
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/052.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/052.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/NY91shirt.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/NY91shirt.jpg.html)

Not showing off my Mangini pic, but I am showing off my Fix For '96 shirt. Love the Majesty logo in the corner. The shirt is over 18 years old but in great shape as I only wear it to DT shows for the most part.
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/MikeMangini.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/MikeMangini.jpg.html)
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Post by: bl5150 on April 01, 2015, 07:32:21 AM: Is that Iron Maiden one official or bootleg Tim? Iron Maiden must be about the only rock band I don't have a t-shirt for .......I've really only got into them a bit in recent years , but not much at all back in the day.

While we're at it, I found a few others that were handy without having to dig too deep. The first couple are those boot shirts I was talking about. I never wear them as they're too small and a touch daggy but the designs (glitter and all) are fanfuckingtastic despite being a bit off centre. I especially love the one with DLR in full flight and Alex's drumsticks on fire..and DLR in jockstrap and dressing gown on the back ;D In pretty good nick for 35 year old shirts too.

The next is a 1982 satin bomber jacket and the last is a Balance Tour roadie jacket. You can imagine how nuts I would've been if I actually live in the US and saw these tours :lol

FRONT (https://s16.postimg.org/44rl11ynp/IMG_5432.jpg)
BACK (https://s12.postimg.org/4u2vya60d/IMG_5433.jpg)

FRONT (https://s21.postimg.org/jg2jjvonr/IMG_5431.jpg)
BACK (https://s13.postimg.org/58xuzqdyv/IMG_5430.jpg)

(https://s3.postimg.org/j4j8e92tv/IMG_5427.jpg)

FRONT (https://s3.postimg.org/eygrhvwr7/IMG_5428.jpg)
BACK (https://s30.postimg.org/hj99grc01/IMG_5429.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on April 01, 2015, 07:39:55 AM: The shirts I posted are all official.

I actually remember some of those old VH shirts!
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 01, 2015, 09:10:21 AM: Really like those shirts!!! Brent was everything bought at concerts?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 01, 2015, 05:15:53 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 01, 2015, 09:10:21 AM
Really like those shirts!!! Brent was everything bought at concerts?

None of them were jj - for starters I'm not that old :P I brought most of this stuff in from contacts I had in the US in the early 90's. The stuff I've posted is a small sample ,but some of my favourite things. I hate to think what I paid in shipping , let alone the items themselves. :omg:
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Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2015, 07:38:56 AM: Speaking of Vince :metal Better than expected actually :lol

https://youtu.be/zg5K0JGWFXI
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 02, 2015, 07:56:15 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 02, 2015, 07:38:56 AM
Better than expected actually :lol

Well considering that it was expected to absolutely blow, and the fact that it just sucks, yeah, I guess you're right! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2015, 09:20:02 AM: If you're watching Kade ..............I know you buy a fair portion of your CDs via JB Hifi . There's a one day sale of 20% off all CDs and DVDs today (Friday) for online orders. Just so as ya know.....
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2015, 05:41:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 02, 2015, 09:20:02 AM
If you're watching Kade ..............I know you buy a fair portion of your CDs via JB Hifi . There's a one day sale of 20% off all CDs and DVDs today (Friday) for online orders. Just so as ya know.....

I've actually never purchased online from JB, only instore but 20% is a great deal. Might have a look today.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 02, 2015, 05:43:15 PM: JB is great to order from online. The shipping is fast and cheap.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2015, 05:44:34 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 02, 2015, 05:43:15 PM
JB is great to order from online. The shipping is fast and cheap.

Good to know man.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 02, 2015, 05:48:04 PM: I don't know what it's like if you buy a lot in one go, but for single items it's only $1. That's hard to beat. It would probably cost you more in fuel to go to the store yourself. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2015, 06:37:27 PM: For the last few years I've used WOWHD. Free shipping if you spend over $80. Their prices are great but their delivery times can be dodgy.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 03, 2015, 05:50:19 AM: Doro a couple of weeks ago - looking and sounding pretty good at 50. One of my fave Warlock songs

https://youtu.be/70Yk1FL1eq8?t=29
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2015, 06:12:06 AM: I'd bang her hard.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 03, 2015, 06:20:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 03, 2015, 06:12:06 AM
I'd bang her hard.

Okey dokey :lol

By the way I only recently stumbled onto her 25 Years in Rock DVD - haven't bought it yet but from what I saw on Youtube it looks to be a cracker with guest appearances from the likes of Lemmy, Scorps, Axel Rudi Pell , Tarja (Nightwish).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 03, 2015, 08:11:19 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 03, 2015, 06:12:06 AM
I'd bang her hard.

lol
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Post by: TAC on April 05, 2015, 06:32:27 PM: So today is the anniversary of the deaths of Cozy Powell, Layne Staley, Mark St. John, and Kurt Cobain. WOW!
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 05, 2015, 06:49:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
So today is the anniversary of the deaths of Cozy Powell, Layne Staley, Mark St. John, and Kurt Cobain. WOW!

wow is right
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Post by: bl5150 on April 05, 2015, 06:57:53 PM: I feel much safer today being a non rock star.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 05, 2015, 09:27:00 PM: Anyone following the album thread will know that I'm giving '87 a fair shake at the moment. How bloody good is 1987 ? :metal :metal In fact Kade ........if 1987 were a girl I'd bang her hard ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 05, 2015, 09:37:54 PM: If 1987 was a girl, she'd be way out of my league. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2015, 06:12:42 AM: If 1987 were a chick, she probably wouldn't even look twice at me. :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 06, 2015, 08:08:59 AM: If 1987 were a chick you guys would both be back on crutches!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2015, 09:57:15 AM: Good to see that KISS have sold out their arena show in Melbourne (around 10,000 seats) and tix are on sale for a second show.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2015, 03:30:48 PM: 1987 was my favourite year ever.
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Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2015, 04:29:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 06, 2015, 08:08:59 AM
If 1987 were a chick you guys would both be back on crutches!

haha, nice.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2015, 05:49:03 PM: tons of great releases from 87; interested in seeing the list
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Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2015, 06:45:06 PM: (https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQcuwE0wrdCUT6ELXelx9deJeUYF-z40BxBmcLAofchYnZT_PqqJQ)

Tony Harnell (TNT) is the new singer for Skid Row.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2015, 07:24:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 06, 2015, 06:45:06 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQcuwE0wrdCUT6ELXelx9deJeUYF-z40BxBmcLAofchYnZT_PqqJQ)

Tony Harnell (TNT) is the new singer for Skid Row.

what??
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2015, 07:39:06 PM: Has Skid Row done anything for the past 20 years? Without Bach, I can't say anything they do would interest me.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2015, 07:42:59 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2015, 07:39:06 PM
Has Skid Row done anything for the past 20 years? Without Bach, I can't say anything they do would interest me.

They've done a couple of albums and a couple of EP's I think. A song or two on the recent EPs were heading in the right direction but Sollinger was never strong enough.

I'm not sure how Harnell will go - he has the range to nail the high notes where even Baz couldn't now but he doesn't really have the mongrel in his lower range to pull off stuff like Slave To The Grind.

At the very least he'll do competent versions live that have his stamp on them and perhaps we might get some inspired new material. Here's hoping . They certainly won't be dashing any huge expectations as most of us really have none . Good base to start from :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2015, 08:46:20 PM: Ideally Bach is the only reasonable choice, but my interest in the band is now higher with Tony.

I actually dispise Solingers voice and the sound that Skid Row was making with his era
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2015, 05:09:35 AM: Why would Tony bother? Focus on the new Starbreaker instead. Oh that's right, money. Never was a Skid Row fan, do they even pull a crowd anymore?
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Post by: TAC on April 07, 2015, 05:30:51 AM: Did they ever?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 07, 2015, 05:42:22 AM: We're kidding aren't we? The Skids debut went 5* platinum in the days when that meant huge numbers and likely sold more than many of the bands we discuss here did in their whole careers. These days I understand they're pretty solid on the European club scene but given their situation the return to Earth is understandable. Very few bands can recover from the loss of a frontman who is so synonymous with the name.

They're still a big enough name to get on this Vegas bill and I wouldn't mind seeing that one :tup

(https://www.hardrockhotel.com/userfiles/common/events/1654/0327.jpg)

I don't expect that Harnell will take them to any great heights in terms of playing to huge crowds (he may well do in Norway as TNT are huge there) but I think their prospects for quality new material just jumped bigtime even though it likely won't sound like Skid Row.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 07, 2015, 06:16:49 AM: I'm not very social media literate but I gather the number of likes on a Facebook page is of some significance these days. Interesting then that Skid Row have 5 times as many as Queensryche. I would've expected about the same.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 07, 2015, 06:19:43 AM: Slave to the Grind is one of my all time favorite albums.

I've only been a casual fan of TNT, but last night I was listening to some of their songs on YouTube. I'm not sure how good of a fit Tony will be. It's going to be quite a different sound but I'm definetely interested in checking it out.

And Slave to the Grind was the first metal album to debut at #1
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Post by: bl5150 on April 08, 2015, 09:26:05 AM: Now this just has to be good...........

(https://f1.bcbits.com/img/a3927952636_2.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on April 08, 2015, 09:26:28 AM: So Skid Row had a monster debut, but they owe a lot if their notoriety that year to Bon Jovi taking them everywhere, and then hooking up with Aerosmith. Yeah, Slave may have debuted at #1 but I attribute that to first album holdover fans. These same fans obviously didn't like what they heard because as far I see it, Skid Row fell off the map at that point.
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Post by: bosk1 on April 08, 2015, 10:13:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 03, 2015, 05:50:19 AM
Doro a couple of weeks ago - looking and sounding pretty good at 50. One of my fave Warlock songs

https://youtu.be/70Yk1FL1eq8?t=29

I have been a fan for close to 30 years, but I somehow never realized how tiny she is until watching that video. :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 08, 2015, 10:16:52 AM: I just never really gave Warlock a chance. I did see them open for Megadeth in 1988.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 08, 2015, 06:43:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 08, 2015, 09:26:28 AM
So Skid Row had a monster debut, but they owe a lot if their notoriety that year to Bon Jovi taking them everywhere, and then hooking up with Aerosmith. Yeah, Slave may have debuted at #1 but I attribute that to first album holdover fans. These same fans obviously didn't like what they heard because as far I see it, Skid Row fell off the map at that point.

lolwut.
Skid Row fell off the map because of this little thing called grunge you may have heard of at the time that instantly rockblocked everything that came before it with the record companies.
The same story applies to all of those pre-grunge bands. And STTG was a killer album.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 09, 2015, 04:24:49 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 08, 2015, 10:16:52 AM
I just never really gave Warlock a chance. I did see them open for Megadeth in 1988.

Me neither. Struggled with the accent tbh. I do have Force Majuere and Doro on cassette from back in the day but don't remember much about either except for the cover of Lighter Shade Of Pale. Never found her that hot either.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 09, 2015, 04:50:31 AM: There weren't too many decent female metal singers back in the day let alone hot ones but Doro and Lita were about as good as it gets for those with some talent.

(https://ztams.com/wp-content/uploads/032012MSMO268.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 09, 2015, 05:10:31 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 08, 2015, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 08, 2015, 09:26:28 AM
So Skid Row had a monster debut, but they owe a lot if their notoriety that year to Bon Jovi taking them everywhere, and then hooking up with Aerosmith. Yeah, Slave may have debuted at #1 but I attribute that to first album holdover fans. These same fans obviously didn't like what they heard because as far I see it, Skid Row fell off the map at that point.

lolwut.
Skid Row fell off the map because of this little thing called grunge you may have heard of at the time that instantly rockblocked everything that came before it with the record companies.
The same story applies to all of those pre-grunge bands. And STTG was a killer album.
:lol
Yeah, I did hear something about it.
And that's actually a great point, but for me, the Skids' problems were of their own making. Kind of.
The debut was a huge crossover hit (Crossover = girls). The problem with Slave was that chicks did not dig it and metalheads would not go near it. They really had no audience at that point. You've got to remember that Slave was a huge shift from the first album and shocked a lot of people.
A lot of those fans of the first album were front runners and proved to be quite fickle.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2015, 05:12:09 AM: The album went double platinum, so clearly someone was buying it! :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 09, 2015, 05:16:35 AM: Yeah, but I think it was an automatic buy for mostly everyone that bought it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2015, 05:34:34 AM: I don't know what you're basing that on. 2 million people don't instantly buy an album, and it's a damn great album.
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Post by: Deathless on April 09, 2015, 07:16:46 AM: New Armored Saint, the title track from their upcoming album - "Win Hands Down" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA-C8_zgLXo)

:metal
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Post by: bosk1 on April 09, 2015, 09:21:20 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 09, 2015, 04:24:49 AM
Me neither. Struggled with the accent tbh. I do have Force Majuere and Doro on cassette from back in the day but don't remember much about either except for the cover of Lighter Shade Of Pale. Never found her that hot either.

I never found her to be overly attractive either. But I got into the music because of the raw power of her voice. The last Warlock album and her first two solo albums were amazing. After that, my interest did start to wane quite a bit. The problem is, her ballads were too samey and she did WAY too many of them, and the standout rockers were too few and far in between after her self-titled. Love Me In Black also had some REALLY cool material, but it was a departure from her sound. The album before that, Machine II Machine, she went more industrial with her sound. Machine II Machine failed in that regard. But although Love Me In Black continued the industrial metal experiment, the songwriting was lightyears ahead of Machine II Machine. And I think her industrial cover of Barracuda (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MY5F07Kh5U) on that album was really cool and original.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2015, 05:34:34 AM
I don't know what you're basing that on. 2 million people don't instantly buy an album, and it's a damn great album.

Yeah, I'm not sure what TAC is basing that on either. That album was a rounding success by just about any measure. It had a bunch of singles that did VERY well, and their tour drew really big crowds. It definitely wasn't a "first day and then dead" album.
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Post by: TAC on April 09, 2015, 09:53:59 AM: TAC is basing it on his Fogey memory and opinion which might not only be skewed but might also be incorrect. ;D

But I seriously have no memory of Slave leaving a lasting impression on anyone. Couple that with the decision to do a covers album next I'm sure confused a lot of people.
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Post by: bosk1 on April 09, 2015, 10:09:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 09, 2015, 09:53:59 AM
TAC is basing it on his Fogey memory and opinion which might not only be skewed but might also be incorrect. ;D

But I seriously have no memory of Slave leaving a lasting impression on anyone.

Yeah, you are either misremembering or it just didn't do well outside your circle of friends. That album really blew up and did well for them.

Quote from: TAC on April 09, 2015, 09:53:59 AM
Couple that with the decision to do a covers album next I'm sure confused a lot of people.

??? Again, you must have strange friends. It was just an EP of B-side covers to tide people over until the next album. They were far from the only band to do such a thing during that era (or even now, for that matter).
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 09, 2015, 01:14:55 PM: I love everything from the Bach era Skid Row. Would still like to see a reunion at some point, but it looks doubtful.

In regards to female metal singers, what's the opinion of Hellion? Anne always sounds good to me.

And really liking the new Armored Saint
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Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 05:24:22 PM: Never checked out any Armored Saint, but that song was quite cool.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 09, 2015, 05:34:38 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 05:24:22 PM
Never checked out any Armored Saint, but that song was quite cool.

You need to check them out. One of the most underated bands in metal
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Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 05:57:18 PM: From that video I saw a link to Raising Fear. Listening now, good album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 09, 2015, 06:18:20 PM: March of the Saint album, along with Symbol of Salvation would be my favorite. But you cant go wrong with any of their material- everything they have released is gold.
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Post by: TAC on April 09, 2015, 07:00:44 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 05:24:22 PM
Never checked out any Armored Saint, but that song was quite cool.
What?

They are a borderline Top 10 band for me.
Raising Fear is AWESOME!!!!
Best song off of it is Book Of Blood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRHQEtFq0HU
Awesome solo from Dave Prichard

Check that out. Better yet, check out the live version off of Saints Will Conquer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOzmOKYSZU8
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Post by: bl5150 on April 09, 2015, 07:08:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 05:24:22 PM
Never checked out any Armored Saint, but that song was quite cool.

I thought you were following my Top 50 :P ;D Symbol of Salvation for me too - check out Reign of Fire or Tainted Past
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Post by: TAC on April 09, 2015, 07:24:49 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 09, 2015, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 05:24:22 PM
Never checked out any Armored Saint, but that song was quite cool.

I thought you were following my Top 50 :P ;D Symbol of Salvation for me too - check out Reign of Fire or Tainted Past
I love Tainted Past, and Burning Question.

The last time I saw them with Dave, Jeff Duncan had already joined the band and they played both Reign Of Fire and Spineless, well before SOS came out.
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Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 09:06:15 PM: Looks like I got some homework boys. Always knew the name, but just a band I never got around to checking out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 09, 2015, 11:04:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 09:06:15 PM
Looks like I got some homework boys. Always knew the name, but just a band I never got around to checking out.

I'm sure you've mentioned it before, but do you like the John Bush era of Anthrax? What a voice on the dude, but I always thought his work with Armored Saint better suited him. You'll love the band!
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Post by: bl5150 on April 10, 2015, 08:42:21 AM: Kade.........might be up your alley:

Michael Denner and Hank Shermann, the original guitar players of Mercyful Fate's legendary Melissa and Don't Break The Oath albums, have created a new classic in the forthcoming EP, Satan's Tomb, coming in 2015 on Metal Blade Records. These songs were crafted with the Mercyful Fate worldwide legion of fans at the forefront of their collective minds. The band is simply called Denner / Shermann and the music for their debut release has been completed and promises to be one of the finest pure classic metal releases of 2015.

Shermann first called upon Marc Grabowski (Demonica) to handle the bass guitar, followed by the only drummer that made sense for many obvious aspects, the one known as Snowy Shaw (Mercyful Fate, King Diamond, Dream Evil). Many voices were considered, but fate lead them to Sean Peck (Cage and Death Dealer). He was not only a fan but had the versatile vocal skills to make the new songs come to life like their fans would expect.

Hank Shermann comments: "We have been writing and recording with an incredible line up of musicians and the fans are in for a dark, classic, heavy metal treat for sure. We wanted to get back to the essence of what we created back in the early 80s. The music inevitable sounds like you would hope it to be, fans of our early work should be very excited."
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Post by: wolfking on April 10, 2015, 04:10:12 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 09, 2015, 11:04:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 09:06:15 PM
Looks like I got some homework boys. Always knew the name, but just a band I never got around to checking out.

I'm sure you've mentioned it before, but do you like the John Bush era of Anthrax? What a voice on the dude, but I always thought his work with Armored Saint better suited him. You'll love the band!

Never got into Anthrax much either man, they were another band I just didn't get around to checking out. Will add to the list too.

Quote from: bl5150 on April 10, 2015, 08:42:21 AM
Kade.........might be up your alley:

Michael Denner and Hank Shermann, the original guitar players of Mercyful Fate's legendary Melissa and Don't Break The Oath albums, have created a new classic in the forthcoming EP, Satan's Tomb, coming in 2015 on Metal Blade Records. These songs were crafted with the Mercyful Fate worldwide legion of fans at the forefront of their collective minds. The band is simply called Denner / Shermann and the music for their debut release has been completed and promises to be one of the finest pure classic metal releases of 2015.

Shermann first called upon Marc Grabowski (Demonica) to handle the bass guitar, followed by the only drummer that made sense for many obvious aspects, the one known as Snowy Shaw (Mercyful Fate, King Diamond, Dream Evil). Many voices were considered, but fate lead them to Sean Peck (Cage and Death Dealer). He was not only a fan but had the versatile vocal skills to make the new songs come to life like their fans would expect.

Hank Shermann comments: "We have been writing and recording with an incredible line up of musicians and the fans are in for a dark, classic, heavy metal treat for sure. We wanted to get back to the essence of what we created back in the early 80s. The music inevitable sounds like you would hope it to be, fans of our early work should be very excited."

Yep, already on my radar. I wish a MF reunion were possible, but this is the next best thing. Sean Peck's okay, he has some pipes.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2015, 06:18:50 AM: https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Metal-Pioneers-L/dp/B00RZXWWGU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425261468&sr=8-1&keywords=inside+metal

If anyone is still interested Part 1 of the Inside LA metal series (1 of 3 ) is finally out on DVD. Aussies can get it locally through Utopia.

(https://www.nightswithalicecooper.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/inside-metal.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on April 12, 2015, 06:56:28 AM: Is live to see it, but I just don't think I could part with any $$ for it.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2015, 11:06:16 PM: These names mean little to me but anyway..........

German/American metallers ACCEPT have announced the addition of guitarist Uwe Lulis (GRAVE DIGGER, REBELLION) and drummer Christopher Williams to the group's ranks.

Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/accept-announces-new-guitarist-drummer/#AG1s6i8iCtUj780k.99
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2015, 05:14:15 AM: Interesting. Never heard of them! :D
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2015, 05:28:57 AM: Uwe Luis, nice. Shame he's probably going to be stuck on rhythm only. Next album Wolf should share solo with Uwe, he's pretty good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2015, 07:01:21 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 13, 2015, 05:14:15 AM
Interesting. Never heard of them! :D
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2015, 06:02:42 PM: All things considered (and allowing for the vox being a bit low in this vid) AC/DC are sounding pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkWzS1lFW3Q&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2015, 06:13:00 PM: Rock Or Bust was an interesting album.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2015, 08:27:05 PM: 18 and Life by Skid Row w/Harnell on vox

https://skidrow.com/media/music/SkidRow_18_and_Life.mp3?hc_location=ufi

As expected he's hitting notes Baz couldn't these days but the low end lacks some edge. On the whole though I think it sounds good. Having said that I think they picked the track well - I still can't imagine how the heavier songs like Monkey Business, Slave To The Grind Youth Gone Wild etc....will sound much like the originals.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2015, 09:03:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 13, 2015, 06:02:42 PM
All things considered (and allowing for the vox being a bit low in this vid) AC/DC are sounding pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkWzS1lFW3Q&feature=youtu.be

AC/DC are always pretty consistent, with the main variable being Brian, and it looks like this was 3rd in the set after two Bon songs, so he should have been nice and warmed up at that point. Angus is sounding a little rough for him, which is what I experienced when I saw him on the Black Ice tour, but he's always been such a tight performer that for any other guitarist his age, I'd still consider his playing very good. I'm still not a fan of them playing down a half step. Maybe if they'd done that 20 years ago it would have made a difference, but I don't see the point now.

Quote from: bl5150 on April 13, 2015, 08:27:05 PM
18 and Life by Skid Row w/Harnell on vox

https://skidrow.com/media/music/SkidRow_18_and_Life.mp3?hc_location=ufi

As expected he's hitting notes Baz couldn't these days but the low end lacks some edge. On the whole though I think it sounds good. Having said that I think they picked the track well - I still can't imagine how the heavier songs like Monkey Business, Slave To The Grind Youth Gone Wild etc....will sound much like the originals.

Pretty good. The high notes sound like a bit of a struggle, but he managed them nicely. Better than the awful version of I Remember You they re-recorded with that other vocalist.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2015, 10:45:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 13, 2015, 08:27:05 PM
18 and Life by Skid Row w/Harnell on vox

https://skidrow.com/media/music/SkidRow_18_and_Life.mp3?hc_location=ufi

As expected he's hitting notes Baz couldn't these days but the low end lacks some edge. On the whole though I think it sounds good. Having said that I think they picked the track well - I still can't imagine how the heavier songs like Monkey Business, Slave To The Grind Youth Gone Wild etc....will sound much like the originals.

Sounds good. Way way way better then Johnny.
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Post by: Deathless on April 14, 2015, 07:12:01 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 13, 2015, 10:45:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 13, 2015, 08:27:05 PM
18 and Life by Skid Row w/Harnell on vox

https://skidrow.com/media/music/SkidRow_18_and_Life.mp3?hc_location=ufi

As expected he's hitting notes Baz couldn't these days but the low end lacks some edge. On the whole though I think it sounds good. Having said that I think they picked the track well - I still can't imagine how the heavier songs like Monkey Business, Slave To The Grind Youth Gone Wild etc....will sound much like the originals.

Sounds good. Way way way better then Johnny.

They should have picked up Harnell 15 years ago! I'm excited to hear the new EP now. The music on the last two was very solid.. the singing was not. :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2015, 08:25:41 AM: Look what I stumbled across today guys.............(part of :-\ ) my 1978 set of KISS cards. I haven't seen these in 25-30 years and I was super obsessed with these cards from around the age of 6 or 7.

(https://s15.postimg.org/s1thwkal7/IMG_9210_1.jpg)(https://s15.postimg.org/o801net97/IMG_9208_1.jpg)
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Post by: Zydar on April 14, 2015, 08:27:21 AM: Awesome!
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Post by: bosk1 on April 14, 2015, 08:31:16 AM: Wow. I had a set of those too, but they are LONG gone.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 14, 2015, 08:46:03 AM: I believe my brother has the same set of cards. No idea if it's complete or not though.
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Post by: TAC on April 14, 2015, 10:18:01 AM: I absolutely had those!!!
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 14, 2015, 02:16:23 PM: I had them all and like a young jerk, I handled them like crap.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 14, 2015, 02:51:29 PM: Those cards look like they are in very good condition
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Post by: bl5150 on April 15, 2015, 01:48:24 AM: I can't believe how wimpy Tygers of Pan Tang's 1987 effort is :lol It's a good AOR album but just doesn't sound like them at all.
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Post by: TAC on April 15, 2015, 06:26:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 15, 2015, 01:48:24 AM
I can't believe how wimpy Tygers of Pan Tang's 1987 effort is :lol It's a good AOR album but just doesn't sound like them at all.
The only things I had were Wild Cat and Spellbound.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 15, 2015, 06:27:20 AM: Well some of the songs on this make Bon Jovi sound like Napalm Death ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on April 15, 2015, 10:44:48 AM: Another new Armored Saint track "Mess" available here. I hate to say it but , even though parts of it are good, I think the song title is accurate :lol

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/armored-saint-new-song-mess-available-for-streaming/
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2015, 01:45:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 15, 2015, 01:48:24 AM
I can't believe how wimpy Tygers of Pan Tang's 1987 effort is :lol It's a good AOR album but just doesn't sound like them at all.

Was that called the Wrecked Age or something like that? I remember hearing it and thinking it was wimpy.

I'll check out the AS later
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2015, 03:12:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 15, 2015, 10:44:48 AM
Another new Armored Saint track "Mess" available here. I hate to say it but , even though parts of it are good, I think the song title is accurate :lol

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/armored-saint-new-song-mess-available-for-streaming/

I like it. But then again, I'm biased in the sense that Armored Saint can do no wrong in my eyes!
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Post by: bl5150 on April 15, 2015, 04:11:45 PM: I come into anything Armored Saint with a positive bias too - but something about that track's structure just puts me off. Won't stop me buying the album as I'm sure there'll be plenty I like.
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Post by: TAC on April 15, 2015, 07:11:47 PM: I like it. 10 times better than I Am I! ;D Now that's a mess!!
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Post by: Calvin6s on April 16, 2015, 02:03:01 AM: Cinderella Pat's Dogs commercial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XOWYe9TgaU)
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Post by: bl5150 on April 16, 2015, 03:09:09 AM: :2metal:
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 16, 2015, 03:32:35 AM: Great commercial!!
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Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2015, 05:09:58 AM: They seem pretty passionate about those dogs.
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Post by: TAC on April 16, 2015, 06:00:54 AM: Quote from: Calvin6s on April 16, 2015, 02:03:01 AM
Cinderella Pat's Dogs commercial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XOWYe9TgaU)

That's awesome..and horrible..but AWESOME!!

Pat's Dogs
Pat's Chili Dogs
Pat's Dogs
Pat's Chili Dogs

Talk about an earworm!
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Post by: TAC on April 16, 2015, 07:16:19 AM: Cool Michael Schenker interview.
His last two albums have been two of the best he's ever done. Ever.

https://classicrockrevisited.com/show_interview.php?id=1108
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Post by: Calvin6s on April 16, 2015, 10:10:18 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 16, 2015, 06:00:54 AM
Quote from: Calvin6s on April 16, 2015, 02:03:01 AM
Cinderella Pat's Dogs commercial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XOWYe9TgaU)
That's awesome..and horrible..but AWESOME!!

You summed up all my thoughts on the matter with those few words. That's why I knew I had to share.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2015, 06:41:25 AM: Finally - a kids movie I'm looking forward to seeing ;D

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/04/17/scooby-doo-kiss-animated-movie-exclusive/25917645/
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 18, 2015, 07:29:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 18, 2015, 06:41:25 AM
Finally - a kids movie I'm looking forward to seeing ;D

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/04/17/scooby-doo-kiss-animated-movie-exclusive/25917645/

Can't possibly be better then Kiss meets the Phantom Park
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2015, 08:04:52 PM: New Tony Macalpine album out tomorrow for you guitar freaks.
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2015, 09:09:43 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2015, 08:04:52 PM
New Tony Macalpine album out tomorrow for you guitar freaks.

Pre ordered it from his website with the DVD. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to come.
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2015, 09:53:11 PM: Haven't posted much the last few weeks, but want to say that I've been spinning the latest JSS album lately, and we feared the worst, but it's actually pretty good.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2015, 09:57:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 19, 2015, 09:53:11 PM
Haven't posted much the last few weeks, but want to say that I've been spinning the latest JSS album lately, and we feared the worst, but it's actually pretty good.

Just another 75% er for me but yeah..............not as bad as expected and I did fear the worst after the first couple of tracks too. The midsection of the album is quite strong without having any tracks I'd be raving about. I haven't felt the need to return to it since I first played it though , which is all too often the case at the moment.
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2015, 10:01:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2015, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 19, 2015, 09:53:11 PM
Haven't posted much the last few weeks, but want to say that I've been spinning the latest JSS album lately, and we feared the worst, but it's actually pretty good.

Just another 75% er for me but yeah..............not as bad as expected and I did fear the worst after the first couple of tracks too. The midsection of the album is quite strong without having any tracks I'd be raving about. I haven't felt the need to return to it since I first played it though , which is all too often the case at the moment.

I think it helped that I went in with pretty much no expectations, even though I think Damage Control was so strong. You're right, there's nothing really mind blowing here, but an entertaining listen IMO.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2015, 10:02:09 PM: I'm listening to Raven's Life's A Bitch at the moment. Now this is quality writing that I can relate to.......real world stuff :lol

Woke up this morning more dead than alive
Sentenced to madness from nine until five
The weather is lousy, think I'm gonna be late
I don't give a shit, my mind is filled up with hate
My breakfast is freezing, the milk has gone off
I feel like telling the world to fuck off

:metal
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Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2015, 06:19:11 AM: Love lyrics you can relate to.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 05:31:26 PM: I just finished that Village People album Tim :lol Sub in some less embarrassing/awful lyrics and it's actually a pretty rocking album....some of it's a bit like early Accept. It won't be making my list but I've heard a lot worse.
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Post by: TAC on April 20, 2015, 05:35:39 PM: :lol
Well, that's two lists it won't be making!
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Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 05:39:46 PM: This track of their next album is a bit more representative of their sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxXAds7s4Vk

Nothing mindblowing but has elements of Accept, Pretty Maids etc.... and I think I might even prefer them to Kiske/Somerville :rollin
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Post by: TAC on April 20, 2015, 05:46:13 PM: Yeah, I hear the Accept influence. Krokus too.

But my God..they are horrible! They remind me of the band in School Of Rock that barely beats out the kids.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 05:49:53 PM: :lol Well I don't think they're quite that terrible - especially for pornstars in leopard skin ;D I rated the album around 69% ;)
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 20, 2015, 05:51:15 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 05:39:46 PM
This track of their next album is a bit more representative of their sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxXAds7s4Vk

Nothing mindblowing but has elements of Accept, Pretty Maids etc.... and I think I might even prefer them to Kiske/Somerville :rollin

This is good stuff
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Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 05:51:42 PM: Thank you jj ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 20, 2015, 05:52:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Thank you jj ;D

Like you said, nothing mindblowing. But solid, good riffs.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 07:55:25 PM: Tim......I know you like Waysted's Vices. There's a re-issue from 2013 with half a dozen of the tracks remixed and added as bonus tracks which I haven't seen before. Apparently it makes quite a difference to the sound quality. Not a huge fave of mine but thought you may be interested in it.

Talking of re-issues ,not sure how the deluxe version of Symbol of Salvation passed me by all those years ago :-\ Three disc set with the Prichard demos and interview etc...
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Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 06:03:06 AM: Another new Impelitteri video. Well, different song but same video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrQNG04CPVk

Fuck, this is pretty good, seems a step up from his usual output, might have to pick this up. Dodgy fucking lyrics, but killer tune.
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Post by: Evermind on April 21, 2015, 06:14:22 AM: Hmmm, if you say it's really good, I probably should check them out. I have this album somewhere in my inbox I think.
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Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 06:27:15 AM: Quote from: Evermind on April 21, 2015, 06:14:22 AM
Hmmm, if you say it's really good, I probably should check them out. I have this album somewhere in my inbox I think.

I've only heard the two songs that have videos. Chris' work hasn't really ever done much for me, but this one sounds really solid.
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Post by: TAC on April 21, 2015, 02:56:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 07:55:25 PM
Tim......I know you like Waysted's Vices. There's a re-issue from 2013 with half a dozen of the tracks remixed and added as bonus tracks which I haven't seen before. Apparently it makes quite a difference to the sound quality. Not a huge fave of mine but thought you may be interested in it.

Talking of re-issues ,not sure how the deluxe version of Symbol of Salvation passed me by all those years ago :-\ Three disc set with the Prichard demos and interview etc...

Brent, I actually just saw the Waysted reissue the other day on Amazon. I'm not someone who typically buys remasters or reissues. I've never had a problem with the original so I'd have trouble spending money on a different mix. If it included a live set from that era, I'd grab it though.

Not familiar with the SOS reissue. Last time I saw them with Dave, they played Reign Of Fire and Spineless.
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Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 06:19:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 19, 2015, 09:09:43 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2015, 08:04:52 PM
New Tony Macalpine album out tomorrow for you guitar freaks.

Pre ordered it from his website with the DVD. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to come.

oooooo....just got an email from TMac regarding my cd getting shipped and I forgot that when I pre-ordered it I get a digital copy of the album to download on the release date. I'm downloading it now and will have a listen tomorrow now.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 06:21:35 AM: I can stream the new TMAc so I'll try and have a listen tomorrow too.
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Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 05:02:29 PM: Man, this new TMac is heavy, proggy and complex. Only a few songs in, but for an instrumental album, gona be a grower I think.
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Post by: TAC on April 22, 2015, 06:40:10 PM: Other than Michael Schenker, I do not have any instrumental albums in my collection.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 07:58:24 PM: I have truckloads but then I was a guitar player and so are/were most of the guys here who do have big collections of that stuff.
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Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 09:28:15 PM: I wouldn't really expect people that don't play guitar to be into guitar instrumental albums anyway.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 23, 2015, 12:08:05 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
Man, this new TMac is heavy, proggy and complex.

Yeah - I found it an extremely hard listen. TMac has always been hit and miss with me...with plenty of hit mind you. When he's good and encases the amazing technique in some structure he's one of the best ever and when he's bad it's quite unfulfilling . For me this new album is mostly the latter.

At times to me he sounds like a pianist who just happens to play guitar with amazing technique and on this album there's a lot of that. The easiest song to listen to for me was the piano piece :lol

I thought the opening track was very good but from there it became an album that is mostly a great example of proggy music that does nothing for me. The musicianship is there , as are the usual moments of brilliance, but most of the songs never resolve,lead anywhere or show anything beyond the most minimal structure - it's just music that's "there". That's where the best material from guys like Satriani and Vai etc.....can be on another level at times.

My 3 faves were Exhibitionist Blvd, Sierra Morena and Confessions of a Medieval Monument -all of which I think have enough structure to be real growers. The rest......not so much.

On my usual rating score it comes up at 63% after first listen :-[
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Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2015, 05:19:24 AM: yeah, it's a tough listen. I'm hoping the DVD will help me get into it more when it arrives. It reminds me of Planet X a bit. I also hear a lot of Vai influence in here too at times. The album as a whole needs more melody.
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Post by: TAC on April 23, 2015, 04:38:18 PM: Halfway through the new Imellitteri. It's pretty rifftastic and shredrageous. Enjoying it a lot. Definitely worth the purchase. It's the first thing I've bought or heard for that matter from them.

I must admit that I feel like I'm hearing the same song over and over again. :lol
It's a good song though.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2015, 04:47:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 23, 2015, 04:38:18 PM
Halfway through the new Imellitteri. It's pretty rifftastic and shredrageous. Enjoying it a lot. Definitely worth the purchase. It's the first thing I've bought or heard for that matter from them.

I must admit that I feel like I'm hearing the same song over and over again. :lol
It's a good song though.

and never goes longer than 4 minutes!
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Post by: TAC on April 23, 2015, 04:50:13 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 23, 2015, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 23, 2015, 04:38:18 PM
Halfway through the new Imellitteri. It's pretty rifftastic and shredrageous. Enjoying it a lot. Definitely worth the purchase. It's the first thing I've bought or heard for that matter from them.

I must admit that I feel like I'm hearing the same song over and over again. :lol
It's a good song though.

and never goes longer than 4 minutes!

This album is like the heavy metal version of PE.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 23, 2015, 08:45:04 PM: Big Hath asked for some thoughts on the new Raven.

In short ,it's a very good album. I don't really care for a lot of their real early stuff but their influence can't be denied - they really aren't given their due actually. These guys took out Metallica to open for them for Kill Em All. And given their age (esp when it comes to the vox) the performances are great and they sound quite reinvigorated.

When I saw that the album had 14 tracks + 1 bonus I was a bit concerned because that usually means filler galore but it's a surprisingly consistent album and well up there with their best album, which for me is Life's A Bitch from 1987. There's a nice tribute in there to Bon Scott too with the track Thunder Down Under.

Basically if you're a Raven fan already or if you like your metal straight forward & heavy a la AC/DC , Krokus and the like then it's certainly worth a listen.

Rating: 80%
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Post by: TAC on April 24, 2015, 03:30:44 PM: Did anyone catch the Michael Schenker/Kirk Hammet episode of That Metal Show.

I thought it was fantastic. I really love Kirk, especially when he is talking about music. He comes across as very passionate and always has.
And there is no greater flake in music than Michael Schenker, but he was very cool during the show.

Great jam too!
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 24, 2015, 03:34:58 PM: Got it DVR'd. Haven't watched it yet.
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Post by: Counselor of Prog on April 24, 2015, 05:27:09 PM: Rush- 2112

:metal
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Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 04:52:38 PM: Having a listen to the Impelitteri. It's metal by numbers, but pretty enjoyable. Seems a lot stronger than a lot of his past works.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2015, 05:17:08 PM: It's consistent in good and bad ways , but yes........one of his better discs. He was releasing an album a year there for a while ,but the last couple have seen 5 year gaps which probably ups the chances of some decent material.

He's sure been around a while - I'm listening to his debut EP today as part of my 1987 listening.
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Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 05:23:28 PM: I also had a listen to the Project Arcadia albums. They were pretty good, but nothing that knocked my socks off. I keep spinning Trail of Murder though, that is a killer, killer album. I can see why you rate it so highly, great stuff.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2015, 05:26:25 PM: Glad you like it as much as I do - there's just something about the songwriting on (rare) discs like that which is just so far above the usual stuff. You actually feel like you're listening to something "fresh" , yet still familiar.
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Post by: TAC on April 27, 2015, 05:32:48 PM: I had sampled some of the Project Arcadia album but I felt it lacked substance.
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Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 05:46:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 27, 2015, 05:32:48 PM
I had sampled some of the Project Arcadia album but I felt it lacked substance.

I can understand that. Check Trail of Murder, pronto!

Brent, was that their only album?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2015, 05:47:47 PM: Yes, their only album. It was effectively an Urban Breed solo album with some of the guys he had worked with in other bands.
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Post by: TAC on April 27, 2015, 05:49:56 PM: I'll check it out. I LOVE the Serious Black album.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2015, 05:52:11 PM: Thanks Kade........there goes another off the roulette list :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 06:01:27 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 27, 2015, 05:52:11 PM
Thanks Kade........there goes another off the roulette list :lol

Whoops, haha, sorry mate. Gotta keep the competition tight. That would have been a home run :hat

Quote from: TAC on April 27, 2015, 05:49:56 PM
I'll check it out. I LOVE the Serious Black album.

I listen to this a lot too, I think it's great also.

Just finishing listening to Red Zone Rider. Meh, it's fine but nothing I would go back to. Just seems generic and uneccesary. Gonna listen to the new UFO now.
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Post by: TAC on April 27, 2015, 06:26:59 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 06:01:27 PM
Gonna listen to the new UFO now.
UFO is one of my favorite all time bands, along with DT and Iron Maiden.

Unfortunately, I will say that Vinnie era UFO has been a huge letdown. I had high hopes for them, especially after a pretty strong You Are Here. But they have settled into an almost Rolling Stonesish band. The best thing I can say about the new album is that it's better than the last one.

The good thing about Stars is that this is most shredding solos that Vinnie has had. The solo on Sugar Cane is mind blowing.

Also, with this album, the Vinnie era now officially has more album than the Chapman era, and the same as the first Schenker era.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2015, 06:32:32 PM: Listened to Vinnie's Mind's Eye yesterday........he would be consciously slowing himself down to play with UFO I reckon :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 06:49:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 27, 2015, 06:26:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 06:01:27 PM
Gonna listen to the new UFO now.
UFO is one of my favorite all time bands, along with DT and Iron Maiden.

Unfortunately, I will say that Vinnie era UFO has been a huge letdown. I had high hopes for them, especially after a pretty strong You Are Here. But they have settled into an almost Rolling Stonesish band. The best thing I can say about the new album is that it's better than the last one.

The good thing about Stars is that this is most shredding solos that Vinnie has had. The solo on Sugar Cane is mind blowing.

Also, with this album, the Vinnie era now officially has more album than the Chapman era, and the same as the first Schenker era.

Yeah, I don't really need to listen to this one again, although, Sugar Cane was amazing. It is better than the last one, but just same as the Red Zone Rider, it's just a safe and really uneccesary album, as is most of the Vinnie UFO stuff. Even with Vinnie's solos, I don't really think that would make the album be on repeat for me. I do agree that You Are Here is a great album.

I'm realyl starting to think that with all the music I was buying, I think I was making myself like stuff, or pretending taht I really dig it when in fact, a lot of music was just meh. I think I don't give a shit these days, and it doesn't matter who it is anymore, if it's below par, I ain't gonna get it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 27, 2015, 07:13:11 PM: Wolf, as long as you keep your purchases to 250 albums a month, you'll enjoy them more
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Post by: TAC on April 27, 2015, 07:16:56 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 27, 2015, 07:13:11 PM
Wolf, as long as you keep your purchases to 250 albums a month, you'll enjoy them more
:lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 07:23:03 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 27, 2015, 07:13:11 PM
Wolf, as long as you keep your purchases to 250 albums a month, you'll enjoy them more

:lol
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Post by: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 04:40:29 AM: new album due mid June

(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/VirginSteele-Nocturnes-LP.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 05:48:23 AM: The last couple have been decent at best, especially considering I finally got into their older stuff a few months back.

This one may be an instant purchase though.
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 06:06:52 AM: Not that many know of them, but new Black Majesty in July. Always put out solid material.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 06:07:59 AM: I just liked the cover of the Virgin Steele ;D I haven't paid much attention to their recent output either.

Funnily enough one thing of theirs that I do revisit from time to time is the vid for Perfect Mansions - maybe it's just me but it's so seriously bad that I just love it. I'm not even sure how much of it was intended that way - Defeis almost takes out the guitarist swinging his arms around and it was left in. Whatever it is........I think it's awesome :angel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCx4pmCFvBM
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 06:26:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 06:07:59 AM
I just liked the cover of the Virgin Steele ;D I haven't paid much attention to their recent output either.

Funnily enough one thing of theirs that I do revisit from time to time is the vid for Perfect Mansions - maybe it's just me but it's so seriously bad that I just love it. I'm not even sure how much of it was intended that way - Defeis almost takes out the guitarist swinging his arms around and it was left in. Whatever it is........I think it's awesome :angel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCx4pmCFvBM

That's GOLD. Love it. Don't know why I haven't checked any of their video clips, just when you think the band can't get any more epic, you watch that and boom! I feel so powerful and filled with self belief haha. Defeis is a master. He's like Cher, but probably more attractive. That quick shot of him in theatpurple vest was amazing. Edward is a great guitarist too, no tricks or effects, just classy lead playing.

What's the go with this song too? I believe it's available on the re-release of AOC but not the original. Any ideas Brent?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 06:36:16 AM: That's right - I believe the 1997 re-issue was the first to have Perfect Mansions.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 06:37:17 AM: I think that video was released when the deluxe edition of AOC was released. It is gold
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 06:59:14 AM: Was it a new song for the re-release?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 07:03:20 AM: Don't hold me to it but I'm pretty sure it was recorded specifically for the re-issue rather than being a leftover from the AOC recording sessions. it may well have been written back around that time though.
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 07:11:48 AM: That's cool. That's how re-releases should be, bands putting in an effort and getting something new and making it worthwhile. The covers on that one are pretty decent too.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 07:26:42 AM: That Kick Axe you asked about jj................it's solid but that's about it. They really only have a couple of songs that I return to . On the whole I'd rate it weaker than Vices....and I rated Vices 78%
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 08:55:35 AM: Yeah everything I've heard from Kick Axe I would say is just decent. Nothing too great.

And that Virgin Steele album cover is pretty cool. I saw on blabber that there were three different album covers for that disc
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Post by: Lowdz on April 28, 2015, 12:22:40 PM: I'd love to hear Virgin Steele with a huge ManOwaR style production. Things always sound a bit "done on the cheap", with DD trying to sound like a choir instead of a real huge choir. If you're going to do epic you've got to be EPIC.
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 04:28:06 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 28, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
I'd love to hear Virgin Steele with a huge ManOwaR style production. Things always sound a bit "done on the cheap", with DD trying to sound like a choir instead of a real huge choir. If you're going to do epic you've got to be EPIC.

You make a really good point here. The last albm was just okay, but it was mainly the shitty production that let it down.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 04:44:59 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 04:28:06 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 28, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
I'd love to hear Virgin Steele with a huge ManOwaR style production. Things always sound a bit "done on the cheap", with DD trying to sound like a choir instead of a real huge choir. If you're going to do epic you've got to be EPIC.

You make a really good point here. The last albm was just okay, but it was mainly the shitty production that let it down.

I found that the album before that, Visions of Eden, just seemed to drag on. I never bothered with the last one.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 05:11:04 PM: I agree - they've always sounded like a half assed Manowar mostly due to production issues but Defeis' songwriting has at times been some of the best in the genre. Defeis writing songs (and producing videos ;) ) for Manowar could be amazing , as would a Manowar style production on some of VS's material but they've never managed to totally nail everything .

If I had to name a favourite song I suppose it would be The Burning of Rome. Age of Consent has some downright dogs but that and Desert Plains are top notch.
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 05:19:01 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 04:28:06 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 28, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
I'd love to hear Virgin Steele with a huge ManOwaR style production. Things always sound a bit "done on the cheap", with DD trying to sound like a choir instead of a real huge choir. If you're going to do epic you've got to be EPIC.

You make a really good point here. The last albm was just okay, but it was mainly the shitty production that let it down.

I found that the album before that, Visions of Eden, just seemed to drag on. I never bothered with the last one.

Yeah, a couple of good songs, but yeah a struggle to listen to.

Quote from: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 05:11:04 PM
I agree - they've always sounded like a half assed Manowar mostly due to production issues but Defeis' songwriting has at times been some of the best in the genre. Defeis writing songs (and producing videos ;) ) for Manowar could be amazing , as would a Manowar style production on some of VS's material but they've never managed to totally nail everything .

If I had to name a favourite song I suppose it would be The Burning of Rome. Age of Consent has some downright dogs but that and Desert Plains are top notch.

I still gotta properly listen to all the old albums I got a few months back. Invictus was easily the best IMO with Marriage Part 1 I think being a close second.

Burning of Rome is definitely the highlight of AOC.
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Post by: TAC on April 28, 2015, 06:02:35 PM: I don't have anything to offer to the Virgin Steel discussion, but if I ever do a TAC Top 50 v.2, Jack Starr's Out Of The Darkness would surely be on it.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 06:07:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 28, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
I don't have anything to offer to the Virgin Steel discussion, but if I ever do a TAC Top 50 v.2, Jack Starr's Out Of The Darkness would surely be on it.

Just checked on that and I reviewed it for 1984. Didn't do much for me . No Turning Back had a lot more on it that I liked.
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Post by: TAC on April 28, 2015, 06:12:01 PM: Well I was a big Riot fan and the fact that Rhett Forrester was on it was cool. In 1984, that was a bitchin' album.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 06:13:55 PM: Rhett Forrester's (RIP) output frustrates me - he's one of those guys where I like his voice but he's never sung on many songs that I like .

In my 1984 KISS and Van Halen were bitchin and that is all :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 06:23:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 28, 2015, 06:12:01 PM
Well I was a big Riot fan and the fact that Rhett Forrester was on it was cool. In 1984, that was a bitchin' album.

I'm sure it was brought up before, but did you check out Riots release from last year- Unleash the Fire!
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Post by: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 06:29:56 PM: That Riot (V) album was really strong - a couple of fillers but otherwise very consistent and I rated it somwhere in the mid-high 80's. I'm pretty sure Tim had initial reservations when it was talked about here but rapidly saw the light :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 06:55:35 PM: From what I listened to, it sounded old school and good!
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Post by: TAC on April 28, 2015, 07:11:10 PM: The Riot V is a GREAT album!
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 08:09:51 PM: I'll check this one out too, only know a couple of the old school Riot albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 09:01:38 PM: I haven't heard everything from Riot but "Fire Down Under" is the stand out from what I have heard
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 09:53:04 PM: That's a great album. Thundersteel is a ripper too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 10:13:07 PM: As well as Restless Breed
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Post by: bl5150 on April 29, 2015, 12:47:12 AM: Another new singer for Red Dragon Cartel ::) I expressed my doubts about the last guy but didn't realise it got that bad :lol

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/jake-e-lees-red-dragon-cartel-taps-singer-chas-west-for-next-round-of-dates/
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 29, 2015, 12:54:47 AM: Blah. It's not good for a band when they can't get a stable band together, especially when it's the frontman. I was glad they got rid of the first dude, but it doesn't sound like the situation is improving any. I don't expect they'll get to a second album at this rate.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 29, 2015, 01:10:52 AM: Jake needs a decent manager - badly.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 29, 2015, 01:15:28 AM: He's still got the chops, and even though the album wasn't good overall, there were a few songs that lead me to believe he's still got the ability to write great rock. They need to get their shit together with a real singer, and write an album as a true band.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 29, 2015, 01:17:03 AM: if you listen to some of the interview at the bottom with Anthony Esposito it's interesting how much involvement he had in make Ace Frehley a bit less of a trainwreck ,so hopefully he can be a positive influence on Jake and his decision making.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 29, 2015, 01:20:24 AM: I didn't check out the video, but I hope he can become a more active part of the band and help bring it to a good place.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 29, 2015, 03:06:57 AM: This Chas West sounds good and has some decent credentials. But overall, this band has been a comedy relief
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Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2015, 05:11:10 AM: I couldn't be bothered with this band. Jake deserves so much more. He should just join someone high profile or make a proper supergroup or something.
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Post by: TAC on April 30, 2015, 03:47:49 PM: Can't link it from my phone but Bravewords is reporting that Mike Howe is back in Metal Church!! :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2015, 08:21:14 PM: Wow........ :tup Blessing In Disguise/Hanging In The Balance got a spot in my Top 50 so I'll be all over this.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2015, 10:06:50 PM: Last weekend in Brazil.........would've loved to be there. I've seen some footage of Ozzy and he sounded pretty good.

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/monstersofrockbrazil2015poster.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2015, 06:06:27 AM: Would have went mainly for Primal Fear, Accept and Unisonic, and probably Yngwie.
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Post by: Cyclopssss on May 01, 2015, 06:24:56 AM: Would that 'guest' be Bill Ward? Nahh...didn't think so..... :yarr
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 01, 2015, 06:30:05 AM: Wow what a line up!

And Mike Howe back in Metal Church will be very cool!!
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Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2015, 08:23:15 AM: I know Paul's a big fan of Keel , so this may interest you sir.

https://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=15283
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Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2015, 08:42:51 AM: It's a bit O/T for this thread but I know Kade will see it here.

I just got through my first listen to the new Kamelot and I'll rate it 70% at this point. For the most part it was pleasant enough to listen to but I had no desire to hear any song a second time , which is never a good sign. It's decent.

It's almost not worth mentioning yet again but the production on most of these recent albums is horrible. Kamelot have always had quite a loud, busy production but - just to compare- I went back and played a song or two off Karma afterwards and , although I wouldn't call that album a sharp production , there was a very noticeable difference in favour of the older album.

Quite often I was straining to even tell if there was a rhythm guitar in there amongst all the noise - it's just all so muddy when everything kicks in.

So.....worth a listen for Kamelot diehards but that's about it IMHO.
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Post by: TAC on May 03, 2015, 08:46:26 AM: I've never been able to get into Kamelot.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2015, 08:54:16 AM: I've never heard one song from them
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Post by: Evermind on May 03, 2015, 10:54:04 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2015, 08:42:51 AM
It's a bit O/T for this thread but I know Kade will see it here.

I just got through my first listen to the new Kamelot and I'll rate it 70% at this point. For the most part it was pleasant enough to listen to but I had no desire to hear any song a second time , which is never a good sign. It's decent.

It's almost not worth mentioning yet again but the production on most of these recent albums is horrible. Kamelot have always had quite a loud, busy production but - just to compare- I went back and played a song or two off Karma afterwards and , although I wouldn't call that album a sharp production , there was a very noticeable difference in favour of the older album.

Quite often I was straining to even tell if there was a rhythm guitar in there amongst all the noise - it's just all so muddy when everything kicks in.

So.....worth a listen for Kamelot diehards but that's about it IMHO.

I've posted my opinion about it in Kamelot thread and I wrote a review for this album at LOMM, but I guess I'll reply here too, even though it's definitely offtopic. :biggrin:

I rate this album a bit more generously than you, Brent, it's about 8/10 for me, but I'm a big fan of Kamelot overall, so I might be just a bit biased here. But I've decided to reply precisely because of your thoughts about this album's production.

And well, I totally agree with what you wrote. On the first listen the mix is just startling, and on some songs I couldn't even hear what the vocalist is singing. When you become familiar with the songs, the lines are clear, but when the choruses kick in, there is the vocalist and then there is everything else. The keyboards, drums, bass and guitar are distinguishable in the intros and on the verses, but choruses are muddy as hell - as you said. I feel like they're trying to be more modern with this approach, and I guess it works, but this decision is definitely not the best for them.
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Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2015, 04:22:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2015, 08:42:51 AM
It's a bit O/T for this thread but I know Kade will see it here.

I just got through my first listen to the new Kamelot and I'll rate it 70% at this point. For the most part it was pleasant enough to listen to but I had no desire to hear any song a second time , which is never a good sign. It's decent.

It's almost not worth mentioning yet again but the production on most of these recent albums is horrible. Kamelot have always had quite a loud, busy production but - just to compare- I went back and played a song or two off Karma afterwards and , although I wouldn't call that album a sharp production , there was a very noticeable difference in favour of the older album.

Quite often I was straining to even tell if there was a rhythm guitar in there amongst all the noise - it's just all so muddy when everything kicks in.

So.....worth a listen for Kamelot diehards but that's about it IMHO.

As I stated this is pretty much how I felt about their last album, and people are saying that this new album is weaker, so I'm not expecting much. Production these days can make or break a record really.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2015, 12:34:17 AM: I expect to have the results for the best of 1987 up within the next 24 hrs now that my listening and research is finished. With my perfectionsit streak in full swing I once again turned it into a monumental task and ended up reviewing/checking out/ruling out hundreds of albums.

At this point I think I have covered the best years of the genre . From here I will no longer set myself the task of doing a set year by such and such a date as ,in order to do it in any sort of timeframe, it has required me to listen to nothing but a given year for an extended period which can become a bit of a chore after a while. The long waits also detract from what I originally wanted the thread to be........which was a good turnover of trivia and Top Tens etc.... On the positive side I have discovered a few hidden jewels during the research process .

So........thanks for your patience. I will continue to work very gradually on say 1988-1992 but it'll be a "done when it's done" sorta thing.

Once the discussion for 1987 dies down I'll try and get some of those Top Tens underway and perhaps we can run it like Kev is running the 80's thread where I'll specify the topics and people can PM me with any bands/ideas they want covered.
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2015, 04:47:02 AM: Looking forward to the list.
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Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2015, 06:06:04 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 04, 2015, 04:47:02 AM
Looking forward to the list.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2015, 08:21:11 AM: OK folks - here it is - my take on the best albums of 1987. I think this is a year that's important to many of us in these parts and so I expect plenty of dissent :lol As before I've rated these albums "present day" rather than allowing big points for life influence as I did in my Top 50 - it hasn't worked out too different in the end anyway.

The Top 10 contains a wide variety of artists from hair metal to basic hard rock (bordering on melodic rock/AOR) to instrumentals and classic metal. Even a live album which normally ain't my thing. I can't see myself having the stamina to do this again in the melodic rock/AOR thread and so , where there were songs on an album sitting on either side of the divide I have allowed them into this list.

A few happenings for the year:

- Udo departs Accept
- Headbangers Ball debuts on MTV *unfortunately this wasn't shown much in Oz
-Nikki Sixx almost tops himself with a heroin overdose

The top 10 was tough to judge and I've ended up with a tie for 1st and a 3 way tie for 10th. The "missed by a bees dick" entries all scored 90+ and there were stacks of 88's and 89's , so it's highly likely that any glaring omissions that you see had a high rating but just missed. The HM's below that I have just done alphabetically so that you can easily see if your faves got a mention. As in past years an album had to get a rating of 80%+ to make the list at all and there are 74 albums all up :omg:

Feel free to tell me but I can only think of one album that may seem an obvious shock miss and that's Anthrax's Among The Living. It does little for me , but Spreading The Disease is an all time fave....so go figure.I also expect that many will find that I have over rated the Gary Moore and under rated the GnR. And of course Tim thinks all Savatage is over rated :lol Just remember that the lowest rating in the Top 10 is 91% so we're talking fractions of greatness here.

Without further ado ,here's the list.....

THE TOP 10 OF 1987

1) Whitesnake : 1987 / Whitesnake (TIE)
1) Ozzy Osbourne: Randy Rhoads Tribute (TIE)
3) Dokken: Back For The Attack
4) Joe Satriani: Surfing With The Alien
5) Gary Moore : Wild Frontier
6) Savatage: Hall of the Mountain King
7) Jimmy Barnes: Freight Train Heart
8) Guns 'N Roses: Appetite For Destruction
9) TNT : Tell No Tales
10) Grim Reaper: Rock You To Hell (TIE)
10) Shy : Excess All Areas (TIE)
10) Vinnie Moore: Mind's Eye (TIE)

Missed By A Bee's Dick:

White Lion: Pride
KISS: Crazy Nights
Triumph: Surveillance
Lizzy Borden: Visual Lies

Honourable Mentions

AB/CD :Victim Of Rock
Ace Frehley: Frehley's Comet
Aerosmith:   Permanent Vacation
Alice Cooper :Raise Your Fist.......
Angus :Warrior of the World
Armored Saint :Raising Fear
Autograph : Loud and Clear
Black Sabbath :Eternal Idol
Bonfire :Fireworks
Breaker :Get Tough
Brian McDonald Group :Desperate Business
Def Leppard :Hysteria
Dio :Dream Evil
Great White : Once Bitten........
Helix   : Wild In The Streets
Helloween :Keeper Of The Seven Keys
Hybrid Ice :No Rules
Icon :An Even More Perfect Union
Impellitteri   :Impellitteri EP
ISOM : Hearts On Fire
Jimmy Davis and Junction :Kick The Wall
John Norum :Total Control
Kane Roberts :Kane Roberts
Keel:Keel
King Diamond :Abigail
Leatherwolf :Leatherwolf
Lion :Dangerous Attraction
Malice :License To Kill
Mama's Boys:Growing Up The Hard Way
Meghan :Meghan (EP)
Motley Crue :Girls,Girls,Girls
MSG   : Perfect Timing
Obsession :Method of Madness
Phenomena :Dreamrunner
Pretty Maids :Future World
Racer X :Street Lethal
Rankelson :The Bastards of Rock n Roll
Raven   Life's A Bitch
Razormaid   First Cutt
Reckless :No Frills
Sammy Hagar :I Never Said Goodbye
Sanctuary :Refuge Denied
Shok Paris   : Steel and Starlight
Statetrooper :Statetrooper ( in the context of it basically being a demo)
Stormwitch   :The Beauty and the Beast
The Cult :Electric
Tokyo Blade :Ain't Misbehavin
Tony Macalpine :   Maximum Security
Treat :Dreamhunter
Tuff Luck: Tuff Luck
Tygers of Pan Tang :Burning In The Shade
Vice   : Hot........Just Looking At You
Vicious Rumors :Digital Dictator
Warlock :Triumph and Agony
WASP :Live..............In The Raw
Wild Dogs :Reign of Terror
Wild Force :Wild Force
Y&T :Contagious


Phew! Now I can start my Winger marathon in preparation for The TAC Roulette.

Fire away.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 04, 2015, 08:27:56 AM: Whitesnake :tup
Ozzy :tup
Dokken :tup
GNR :tup
White Lion :tup
Def Leppard :tup

I knew Whitesnake would be top spot, or not far behind. I would have had AFD just nudge it out though. KISS and Dio are both weak showings for them imo.
I'm generally not into guitar instrumental music, and I'm not a fan of Satriani either, but Alien is a great instrumental guitar album. Crushing Day has always been a fav of mine.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2015, 08:32:45 AM: I agree about the Dio - it snuck in with 80%. KISS Crazy nights has a couple of real duds on it but also has some tracks I really love so it performed well. Kulick shreds all over it too which doesn't hurt - he never played like that again.

As far as the Satriani goes it's a good thing I haven't listened to it in years as I was totally sick of it at one point. I played a few tracks off that for my Year 12 guitar exam and so I played it every day for a year basically :lol
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Post by: Bolsters on May 04, 2015, 08:33:19 AM: Whitesnake had to be at the top or at least close to it. :tup Glad to see Appetite For Destruction in the top 10 aswell, and not relegated to being an honourable mention.

Surprised to see Freight Train Heart so high though, I was figuring it for an honourable mention.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 04, 2015, 08:35:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 04, 2015, 08:32:45 AM
I agree about the Dio - it snuck in with 80%. KISS Crazy nights has a couple of real duds on it but also has some tracks I really love so it performed well. Kulick shreds all over it too which doesn't hurt - he never played like that again.

As far as the Satriani goes it's a good thing I haven't listened to it in years as I was totally sick of it at one point. I played a few tracks off that for my Year 12 guitar exam and so I played it every day for a year basically :lol

Crazy Nights is the weakest of the non-makeup albums imo, with the only song I like at all being Reason To Live, and even that's not one of the essential '80s KISS tracks. Kulick always slays it with the right balance of shred and style though. I like his Revenge playing the best. It's not shreddy, but the man can rock.

I think my brother did Always With Me, Always With You for one of his year 12 guitar pieces. It must be a rite of passage for guitarists or something. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2015, 08:37:14 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on May 04, 2015, 08:33:19 AM
Surprised to see Freight Train Heart so high though, I was figuring it for an honourable mention.

That was one that I tossed up as to whether it fits in the thread at all ,but it rocks hard enough in parts I felt. I just think it's a really solid rock album from start to finish.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 04, 2015, 10:05:46 AM: I think you have it all covered off very well Brent

Don't know much about Shy

Also surprised to see Grim Reaper rated so high
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2015, 01:37:55 PM: Great list Brent!

Here's mine:

1. Helloween- Keeper Of The Seven Keys Pt.1
2. Guns n Roses- Appetitie For Destruction
3. Armored Saint-Raising Fear
4. Alice Cooper-Raise Your Fist And Yell
5. Whitesnake-s/t
6. Dio-Dream Evil
7. Anthrax-Among The Living
8. Metallica- The $5.98 EP
9. Kiss-Crazy Nights
10. Shy-Excess All Areas :Tie
10. Gary Moore-Wild Frontier:Tie

These are obviously my personal favorites from that year, listing them by how much I've listened to each.

B, I can't believe Keepers didn't make the Top 10. It is to Power Metal what I&W is to Progressive Hard Rock. It was musical life changing and defining for me.

Saw some great concerts in 1987.

David Lee Roth/Tesla
Alice Cooper/Megadeth
Iron Maiden/Waysted
Grim Reaper/Armored Saint/Helloween
Guns n Roses in a CLUB!
Dio/Megadeth/Savatage

...among others..
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Post by: Lowdz on May 04, 2015, 02:20:10 PM: Great work.

1987 was the best year ever musically for me. So many great albums. And I bought them all :biggrin:. Good job I'd just started work that year. :biggrin:

1 - Vinnie Moore: Mind's Eye
2 - Dokken: Back For The Attack
3- Joe Satriani: Surfing With The Alien
4 - Keel:Keel
5 - Vicious Rumors :Digital Dictator
6 - Tony Macalpine : Maximum Security
7 - Bonfire :Fireworks
8 - TNT : Tell No Tales
9 - Whitesnake-s/t
10 - Dio-Dream Evil

Just missing out

Def Leppard :Hysteria
Rush - Hold Your fire
Shy : Excess All Areas
Masi - Fire In The Rain
Sanctuary :Refuge Denied
Helloween :Keeper Of The Seven Keys
Mad Max - Night Of Passion
Great White - Once Bitten
Frehley's Comet - ST
White Lion: Pride
Joey Tafolla - Out Of The Sun

Biggest disappoitments

KISS - Crazy Nights
Y&T - Contagious
Love both bands but neither album was up to scratch. Both have 3-4 good tracks but too much crap too.
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2015, 02:26:59 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 04, 2015, 02:20:10 PM
KISS - Crazy Nights
Y&T - Contagious
Love both bands but neither album was up to scratch. Both have 3-4 good tracks but too much crap too.

I enjoyed the Kiss a lot when it came out.

The Y&T was interesting, but totally uneven.

Quote from: Lowdz on May 04, 2015, 02:20:10 PM
1987 was the best year ever musically for me.
I found it to be one of the weakest, if not THE weakest year of the 80's.
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Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2015, 03:48:07 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 04, 2015, 08:21:11 AM
1) Whitesnake : 1987 / Whitesnake (TIE)
1) Ozzy Osbourne: Randy Rhoads Tribute (TIE)
3) Dokken: Back For The Attack
4) Joe Satriani: Surfing With The Alien
5) Gary Moore : Wild Frontier
6) Savatage: Hall of the Mountain King
7) Jimmy Barnes: Freight Train Heart

This top 7 is absolutely perfect.
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2015, 03:55:15 PM: For some reason, I did not consider Ozzy's Tribute. I should have. It's a very underplayed live album in my collection.
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 04, 2015, 04:02:20 PM: Man I wore out that Gary Moore album.
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2015, 04:06:06 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on May 04, 2015, 04:02:20 PM
Man I wore out that Gary Moore album.
I think it has aged pretty well, but I thought it was a real uneven album. It took me a long time to appreciate it. Has some great songs on it for sure.
Saw him on that tour. His band was fantastic:
Neil Carter
Eric Singer
Bob Daisley
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 04, 2015, 04:11:27 PM: What a lineup! I was lucky enough to see him once opening for Rush on the GUP tour in Springfield Ma.
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2015, 04:13:58 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on May 04, 2015, 04:11:27 PM
What a lineup! I was lucky enough to see him once opening for Rush on the GUP tour in Springfield Ma.
Nice!
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Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2015, 04:24:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 04, 2015, 04:06:06 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on May 04, 2015, 04:02:20 PM
Man I wore out that Gary Moore album.
I think it has aged pretty well, but I thought it was a real uneven album. It took me a long time to appreciate it. Has some great songs on it for sure.
Saw him on that tour. His band was fantastic:
Neil Carter
Eric Singer
Bob Daisley

The Stockholm 87 show from this tour is amazing. I have a DVD of that one.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 04, 2015, 04:32:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 04, 2015, 04:06:06 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on May 04, 2015, 04:02:20 PM
Man I wore out that Gary Moore album.
I think it has aged pretty well, but I thought it was a real uneven album. It took me a long time to appreciate it. Has some great songs on it for sure.
Saw him on that tour. His band was fantastic:
Neil Carter
Eric Singer
Bob Daisley

I prefer it now to how I felt back in the day.
I saaw him live several times in the 80s and it was always awesome.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2015, 05:43:36 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 04, 2015, 10:05:46 AM
Also surprised to see Grim Reaper rated so high

So am I :biggrin: That said Grimmett is a massively under rated vocalist.

Quote from: TAC on May 04, 2015, 01:37:55 PM
Great list Brent!

Thanks - yours is top notch too. Although I'm surprised that you're surprised about Helloween. :lol I've always said I didn't like the Keepers albums much but I massively upgraded Keepers 1 on my recent listen which meant it just snuck in , so I thought you'd be pleasantly shocked to see it in my list at all. I wasn't shocked to see it at No 1 for yours though :D The only one I really don't like at all is Among The Living. Indians is the only track which grabs me.

Quote from: Lowdz on May 04, 2015, 02:20:10 PM
Great work.

1987 was the best year ever musically for me. So many great albums. And I bought them all :biggrin:. Good job I'd just started work that year. :biggrin:

Thanks. I can relate to that , although I was 13 in 1987 and really just getting started , especially on the metal side of things. I made up for it soon after though.

I can't say that there's much in your list that I dislike and 99% of them made my list. :tup Masi always struck me as a guitar hero who was over rated and (maybe it's just my copy) but I marked that album down big for production. My first exposure to him was actually one of the few I have on vinyl - Attack of the Neon Shark..........had to have it because of Soto ,not Masi ;D

Mad Max missed out by 1%

Vicious Rumours and Great White were both close to top 10.

Rush.........well you know :lol

The Y&T and Crazy Nights............well I've always thought Contagious really isn't that bad despite a few total duds. And Crazy Nights was one that I expected to have lower but I upgraded it quite a bit on my most recent listen. I'm surprised (and pleased) to see TAC rate it so high.

Joey Tafolla......I hadn't listened to that in a long time and actually expected to rate it quite high but it did nothing for me on the most recent listen.

Quote from: wolfking on May 04, 2015, 03:48:07 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 04, 2015, 08:21:11 AM
1) Whitesnake : 1987 / Whitesnake (TIE)
1) Ozzy Osbourne: Randy Rhoads Tribute (TIE)
3) Dokken: Back For The Attack
4) Joe Satriani: Surfing With The Alien
5) Gary Moore : Wild Frontier
6) Savatage: Hall of the Mountain King
7) Jimmy Barnes: Freight Train Heart

This top 7 is absolutely perfect.

Thanks mate. I knew you'd like Barnesy getting a gong ;D

Quote from: kingshmegland on May 04, 2015, 04:02:20 PM
Man I wore out that Gary Moore album.

Ditto .......and when TAC says it's uneven I'd also note the sound. Is it just me or was Thunder Rising quieter than the rest?? I always had to turn it up for that song ???

Quote from: TAC on May 04, 2015, 03:55:15 PM
For some reason, I did not consider Ozzy's Tribute. I should have. It's a very underplayed live album in my collection.

I always listened to that in preference to Blizzard as the songs are just so much more alive. One of the few live albums I've ever spent much time with.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2015, 05:58:27 PM: That Barnsey album is just so damn good. Anyone of you guys into melodic rock should check out that album. Features Neal Schon and Jonathon Cain. Great sounding album too, produced really well.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 08:17:39 AM: I'm only a couple of tracks into the Lepond album Tim but I'm already getting an Armored Saint vibe . No wonder you like it :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 05, 2015, 08:20:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
I'm only a couple of tracks into the Lepond album Tim but I'm already getting an Armored Saint vibe . No wonder you like it :)
:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 05, 2015, 09:40:50 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 05, 2015, 08:20:08 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
I'm only a couple of tracks into the Lepond album Tim but I'm already getting an Armored Saint vibe . No wonder you like it :)
:metal

I should check that out too then!
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Post by: Lowdz on May 05, 2015, 10:32:32 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
I'm only a couple of tracks into the Lepond album Tim but I'm already getting an Armored Saint vibe . No wonder you like it :)

Didn't do a thing for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 05, 2015, 11:00:56 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 05, 2015, 10:32:32 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
I'm only a couple of tracks into the Lepond album Tim but I'm already getting an Armored Saint vibe . No wonder you like it :)

Didn't do a thing for me.
I believe the AOR thread is calling you. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 05, 2015, 12:17:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 05, 2015, 11:00:56 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on May 05, 2015, 10:32:32 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
I'm only a couple of tracks into the Lepond album Tim but I'm already getting an Armored Saint vibe . No wonder you like it :)

Didn't do a thing for me.
I believe the AOR thread is calling you. ;D

Fully paid up member of the Death To False Metal club here! :biggrin:
Just didn't find it memorable at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2015, 03:22:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 05, 2015, 10:32:32 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
I'm only a couple of tracks into the Lepond album Tim but I'm already getting an Armored Saint vibe . No wonder you like it :)

Didn't do a thing for me.

I agree with Paul actually, I thought it was average at best.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 08:16:18 PM: I have only had one listen to the Lepond . I can see both sides of the argument but in the end i think it's a very solid , if unspectacular , mix of bands like Armored Saint, Iced Earth, Symphony X, Manowar, Maiden etc.... There's no brilliant highs but it's also very consistently listenable , it rocks and for once I can actually hear the instruments - even the drum machine via Michael Romeo sounds fantastic ;D (you would barely know)

I doubt I'll get back to it soon for a second listen but at this stage I'd give it 79-80% which is better than most recent releases.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 09:52:21 PM: I doubt anyone bar maybe Paul has heard of a Swiss hard rock band called Crystal Ball? Anyway - I've been told that their upcoming release called Liferider is worth a listen, so I'll keep my eyes open. I have the debut Hard Impact (from 2000) which was considered a bit of an underground classic (I never rated it quite that high) .

The single which I've linked below is alright . I imagine it's mid range in terms of heaviness on the album and is a duet with the female singer from Battle Beast. Neither of these singers have the talent of Kiske or Somerville but I think I prefer it to most of the stuff on City Of Heroes - it has a bit more of a rocking edge to it I think , especially for a single.

Soundwise ...........well I suppose it's on the good end of the crap we're hearing lately. It's compressed but at least it's a fairly clear mix.

Anyway.......see what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPWyu0x4ssg
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 05, 2015, 10:00:59 PM: Soundwise it seemed pretty good to me. Clear mix, and while I wouldn't say definitively from Youtube, it didn't sound too compressed to me. Maybe a DR7, maybe even pushing an 8 judging from where I had the volume.

Didn't mind the music and vocals either. Not something I'd go out of my way to listen to, but it wasn't bad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2015, 10:04:23 PM: Eh, it was average at best IMO. The song itself wasn't too bad, but I didn't like the vox, and the guitar solo was shithouse. Man how I've changed. We've just heard it all before.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 10:06:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 05, 2015, 10:04:23 PM
We've just heard it all before.

Not bad = awesome at the moment ;) ;D

I thought the song had enough as a single to warrant a listen when the album comes out anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2015, 10:11:16 PM: Maybe just hearing the guys voice might be better.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 05, 2015, 10:12:54 PM: As far as I know that's the only song on the album with a female vocal.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 05, 2015, 10:47:09 PM: Not something I would listen to either, but decent
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Post by: TAC on May 06, 2015, 07:22:06 AM: Oddly enough, I read a pretty positive review of the Crystal Ball last night and have them on my list of things to check out today.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2015, 07:23:40 AM: RIP Craig Gruber
https://bravewords.com/news/original-rainbow-elf-bassist-craig-gruber-dead-at-63
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 06, 2015, 08:17:20 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 06, 2015, 07:23:40 AM
RIP Craig Gruber
https://bravewords.com/news/original-rainbow-elf-bassist-craig-gruber-dead-at-63

I really don't know much of Craig but sad to hear anyway - the number of our idols passing away is gathering pace I'm afraid and it's unlikely to slow. :(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2015, 08:30:56 AM: Brent, listening to the Lepond album and I must say, your Armored Saint comparison is spot fuc#ing on! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 06, 2015, 09:37:55 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 06, 2015, 08:30:56 AM
Brent, listening to the Lepond album and I must say, your Armored Saint comparison is spot fuc#ing on! :metal

:tup It was very obvious on some tracks and not so much on others. I also thought the singer sounded very Matt Barlow at stages too. It's the dude from Hades if I'm not getting my wires crossed.

I've just connected up a birthday gift - my first (non laptop) webcam. You generally find with me that I'll be about 5-10+ years behind the times when it comes to tech and especially phones/social media. And when I do sorta catch up with the times it'll be a hand me down or a gift :)

I wanted it so I could chat with a mate overseas but just for a laugh I've issued myself the BL5150 hard rock/metal t-shirt challenge. Each day on my first post I'll include a photo of today's shirt and we'll see how long I can go without wearing the same shirt twice. :lol It's just a bit of fun for me and so I can have a muck around with the camera, but you may wish to comment on the band/album/shirt/tour ...........it'll also allow me to figure out what I've got in the old wardrobe and detect if the missus has started throwing stuff out again >:( I honestly have no idea what I still have left and I generally rotate the same 5-10 around for daily use. I won't delve into my memorabilia vault (mostly VH/KISS) , just the wardrobe and we'll see what it turns up.

And I'll also get some Top 10s happening soon.

Here's tonight's fashion. And fwiw I thought A Different Kind Of Truth was surprisingly good. The gig ? ......it pains me to say it but Aerosmith blew them off the stage.

(https://s16.postimg.org/luqvry1zp/Picture_3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2015, 09:58:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 06, 2015, 09:37:55 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 06, 2015, 08:30:56 AM
Brent, listening to the Lepond album and I must say, your Armored Saint comparison is spot fuc#ing on! :metal

:tup It was very obvious on some tracks and not so much on others. I also thought the singer sounded very Matt Barlow at stages too. It's the dude from Hades if I'm not getting my wires crossed.
Yes, a lot like Barlow. Not familiar with Hades and since I bought the Amazom mp3 album, I couldn't even tell you the guys name, but he is excellent. I must check out Hades then..
Such classic East Coast heavy metal. Not sure why it was not more liked. I'd take it over the last Primal Fear any day (looking at you, Wolfie!)!

And ADKOT was fantastic. Totally shocked at how good it was.
And if Aerosmith blew VH off the stage, they MUST have been bad. I always thought Aerosmith was quite underwhelming live. I like them and all, but never found their shows that great TBH. Of course I haven't seen them since the Pump tour.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 06, 2015, 11:51:36 AM: I had low expectations for that album, but likewise, was very impressed with the album. Loved it and still enjoy it as much as when it was released.

Live show....meh
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 06, 2015, 01:32:11 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 05, 2015, 10:04:23 PM
Eh, it was average at best IMO. The song itself wasn't too bad, but I didn't like the vox, and the guitar solo was shithouse. Man how I've changed. We've just heard it all before.

I didn't mind that but you're right about the solo - that's not going to cut it in this day and age.. I am familiar with them but wouldn't say I'm a fan.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 06, 2015, 05:26:19 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 06, 2015, 11:51:36 AM

Live show....meh

The thought of saying that about a VH live show would've been laughable back in the day - sometimes I wish I was 18 in early 80's and had a chance to see some of these bands in their absolute prime. It would've involved overseas travel where VH is concerned .

Speaking of the early 80's..........this one's for you Tim. Built To Destroy 1984 tour shirt - I have a feeling I wasn't there at the age of 10 , so I have no idea where it came from :D

As far as that album goes I like the first couple of tracks and from there not much interests me.

(https://s8.postimg.org/qtcsgmchx/Picture_4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2015, 06:54:38 PM: Saw VH on 3/18/84 when I was 15 1/2. Turns out The Lovely Mrs TAC saw them the night before. Of course it would be 12 more years before I actually met her.

Regarding MSG's Built To Destroy, I have to say that when it came out, I remember it sounded so awful. The production was terrible. But It has aged greatly, as I have some reissue.
Great tunes on it. Red Sky, Dogs Of War, Rock My Nights Away, Rock Will Never Die, I'm Gonna Make You Mine, Captain Nemo.
I actually prefer it to the first MSG album, and rank it #2 out of the original 4 MSG albums.

Been in a wicked Schenker mood lately.
BTW, I see you mentioned Perfect Timing in your '87 HM's. I must say that after a lengthy absence after BTD, I was thrilled when he returned with Robin McCauley. thrilled, that is, until I heard the album, which is pretty damned weak if you ask me, and has not aged well.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 06, 2015, 07:01:18 PM: I have always thought Perfect Timing is over rated - it was at stages hailed as an all time classic but more in the melodic rock vein as it's pretty commercial. It just scraped into my HM's with 80% (which may be a touch generous) and it also barely scraped in as "hard rock" but when in doubt I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to an artist with a history of good work in a given genre.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2015, 07:04:19 PM: Save Yourself was much stronger as Schenker is pretty much ripping over it. The 3rd McCauley Schenker album was also pretty mellow (weak) although it has Never Ending Nightmare which is one of Schenker's best ever.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 06, 2015, 07:08:31 PM: All of those albums have a lot of stuff I really like and dislike and they're tough to rate. Nightmare is a great track for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 07, 2015, 12:55:12 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 06, 2015, 07:01:18 PM
I have always thought Perfect Timing is over rated - it was at stages hailed as an all time classic but more in the melodic rock vein as it's pretty commercial. It just scraped into my HM's with 80% (which may be a touch generous) and it also barely scraped in as "hard rock" but when in doubt I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to an artist with a history of good work in a given genre.

Yeah a couple of decent songs but Save Yourself is far better.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 07, 2015, 11:27:37 PM: Here's Schenker's band the other night. Looking good , having fun and thankfully not the train wreck you could expect to see not so long ago.

https://youtu.be/UO0yq88xoDo

Today's fashion......almost universally enjoyed in these parts

(https://s2.postimg.org/ercho0vtl/Picture_5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 08, 2015, 12:55:58 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 07, 2015, 11:27:37 PM
Here's Schenker's band the other night. Looking good , having fun and thankfully not the train wreck you could expect to see not so long ago.
He is in as good a place musically than he has been in a very long time. Almost ever, not counting the classic UFO days. I have been a huge Schenker fan for a very long time, and his last two albums and tours for each have been a couple of his strongest of his entire career. He is playing as well as he ever has, and for once, looks happy and content, which for this man is no easy task.

After his 2nd MSG album, which is a Top 5 or 6 for me, I rate Bridge The Gap as my all time #2 MSG album, with Spirit On A Mission not far behind.

Quote from: bl5150 on May 07, 2015, 11:27:37 PM
(https://s2.postimg.org/ercho0vtl/Picture_5.jpg)
Seen them a bunch of times back in the day, including a couple of times on the RiP tour, and have never bought a Megadeth t shirt.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2015, 10:10:54 PM: I have very little in the way of thrasher shirts - or even classic metal shirts. I wouldn't mind getting myself a few more classic metal shirts actually. When I was buying most of my shirts back in the late 80's/early 90's I was more into hard rock with a side of metal.

I probably wouldn't wear a Vic or Eddie shirt out and about these days either , unless I was at a metal gig - even though I'm a big kid who lives in black t-shirts I sorta feel like I'm growing out of that stuff a bit :lol I imagine there'll be a few embarrassing shirts that'll surface. Just because I post a photo doesn't mean I intend wearing them out :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2015, 11:35:14 PM: Aussie webmag interview with Faulkner from Judas Priest

https://www.therockpit.net/2015/Richie-Faulkner-Judas-Priest-Interview-2015.php
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 09, 2015, 07:46:44 AM: Seems like Richie is fitting in very well with the band
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 09, 2015, 12:52:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 08, 2015, 10:10:54 PM
I have very little in the way of thrasher shirts - or even classic metal shirts. I wouldn't mind getting myself a few more classic metal shirts actually. When I was buying most of my shirts back in the late 80's/early 90's I was more into hard rock with a side of metal.

I probably wouldn't wear a Vic or Eddie shirt out and about these days either , unless I was at a metal gig - even though I'm a big kid who lives in black t-shirts I sorta feel like I'm growing out of that stuff a bit :lol I imagine there'll be a few embarrassing shirts that'll surface. Just because I post a photo doesn't mean I intend wearing them out :lol

I'm wearing a Number oF The Beast shirt today. I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks. I live in my band shirts. When I think of all the tour shirts that have been thrown away over the years ... :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 03:21:46 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 09, 2015, 07:46:44 AM
Seems like Richie is fitting in very well with the band

That's a shame.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 06:58:21 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 03:21:46 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 09, 2015, 07:46:44 AM
Seems like Richie is fitting in very well with the band

That's a shame.

Believe it or not I was waiting for that :lol

Quote from: Lowdz on May 09, 2015, 12:52:02 PM
I live in my band shirts.

As do I . At a guess I would wear black trakky daks or board shorts and a band shirt 350 days a year , which probably gives you an indication in general of how many shits I give about what people think. We actually had this conversation last night - me and the missus.

We were going out to a dinner to a pub for Mothers day and I went to the trouble of dolling myself up in some jeans (and a band shirt :metal ) and I got a lecture on how I could at least wear a proper shirt. My reply was along the lines of "It's just a bloody pub"and the chorus from my favourite Great White song :lol What's it called again?

Quote from: Lowdz on May 09, 2015, 12:52:02 PM
I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks.

You are officially the first person to ever accuse me of giving a shit what people think when it comes to clothes :lol

In general I 100% agree but let's say tomorrow you lose the plot and start getting into Grindcore music. I dunno if you've seen some of the album covers but they're bloody disgusting , and I'm no prude. So you say alright - I like the music so therefore I'm going to wear this shirt with a disemboweled female with her head in a toilet having various acts performed on her. You don't care what anyone thinks. Extreme I know but a blanket "I don't care" is a bit simplistic for me at least.

It also may not be about what others think necessarily and more about what you feel comfortable with in yourself and that's what I actually said........I feel like I'm growing out of some of that stuff a bit. I never meant to make this an essay on selecting metal fashion but what the hell. :) I'll try to explain where I was coming from.

I'll discuss a few scenarios:

1) There are certain things that I used to be obsessed with as a kid and which I now just don't feel are very "me". The cartoonish/ghoulish/offensive side of metal graphics (less so in the music) is one -playing with action figures, making paper planes and watching wrestling are others. When I say I've grown out of them that's not to imply that people who still play with toys and watch wrestling should grow up -not at all. My 74 yo dad collects model cars and watches wrestling to this day and he's someone I respect immensely. They're just things I enjoyed in my teens and simply can't relate to any more.

2) Once I started thinking about this I also found another little subconscious train of thought.......one which you may find rather weird :angel: When I pick a metal shirt to go out in (and I'd never considered this before) I do not care what people think of me in most situations (see below for exceptions) but I do care somewhat how 'our music" and its fans are perceived. The few of us out there who feel proud enough to wear our metal shirts everywhere are ambassadors for true metal :lol I'm hearing Eric Adams as I type this with my tongue in my cheek slightly.

You know how seriously I rate the music we love though and yet the vast majority of people I know pigeonhole us fans as bogans , morons and/or devil worshippers or something. In a weird way - in addition to not feeling very "me" anymore (which is the main factor) - I also feel like I don't need to give them more ammo by wearing chicks with dicks on a Poison shirt , a "Metal Up Your Arse" Metallica shirt , A Steel Panther STD Tour shirt, Manowar in their loin cloths, or say this

(https://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/3687-bagged-and-boarded.jpg)

(https://www.vinylsurrender.com/Graphics/AlbumCovers-Ugly/Boned.jpg), or even this.....(which I kinda like :lol)

(https://www.vinylsurrender.com/Graphics/AlbumCovers-Ugly/Scorpions.jpg)

And they're tame relatively speaking. That's not to say I won't get out some absolutely horrible stuff for the next Steel Panther gig or the KISS gig in October and have a fun night , but it's not the sort of stuff I want to wear regularly these days.

I was thinking about starting a worst album covers thread and you're forcing me to use some of my best material :)

3) Let's take a relatively tame shirt

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61jeYtZYnFL._UX385_.jpg)

Most days I do either the school drop off or pick up. It may not bother others but to me it's not cool to wear something like that as not only does it reinforce the stereotype of idiot metal fans , it reflects badly on my son and likely me as a parent in the eyes of others. I'm also very conscious of not doing anything that could get my 7yo boy bullied - that is something I seriously care about. And again , aside from perhaps KISS, it's more of the cartoonish/offensive image of metal that I feel I've gone past a bit.

I'll give you another example. I spent 10 years as a community pharmacist from 1994-2004 and ,as happens , you become a bit of a local celebrity and I would've known a vast majority of the community (and their kids) on a first name basis. We're talking maybe 500 families who I would see everywhere I go out of hours.

Again ..it may not bother others but in that scenario I always felt a responsibility not to wear stuff that could cause offense (or fright in the case of Eddie/Vic) to a whole bunch of parents/kids who looked up to me (and my employer) as someone they could trust with their health.

Still.........relative to anyone I know I'm by far and away the least fashion conscious :lol

Anyway........it's all really academic and we all do what we're comfy with. Sorry for the rant - the words are flowing tonight for some reason on a topic that probably doesn't deserve them :angel:.

Let's get some Top 10's started tomorrow :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2015, 08:31:46 AM: Wow. Wasn't getting at you man. I wouldn't wear those either and never would have - they aren't me. I wouldn't go out of my way to offend but I have worn the G 'n' R "rape" shirt and less than subtle WASP shirts in the past and I probably still would in the right context. I do the school run too and wear Maiden shirts for that. I understand what you're saying but I wasn't insulting your manhood :biggrin: You're an Aussie and I know you take these things seriously :lol

I do remember one time I wore a DT shirt to work (though t-shirts weren't really allowed) when I was working on a psychiatric ward.
(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41dr1WfC9VL._UX342_.jpg)
I hadn't realised that there is a hanging symbol on there . A patient saw it and was a bit upset and I felt awful too. So yes, not always appropriate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 08:40:01 AM: Don't worry mate , I wasn't offended at all and made a conscious effort to not sound that way. Looks like I failed .......sorry about that :angel:

I just thought it was an interesting discussion - we're few and far between ,those of us who live in these relics :lol And the concept of me being fashion conscious (that's a world first) really shocked my brain and got me thinking. :) And once I get on a roll.......... ::)

Personally I wouldn't feel right wearing the GnR rape shirt but it's representative of a time and sound that we love and so I'm not going to judge anyone for it. It's just not "me" any more. Same goes for the cover of an album I love - Hurricane's Slave To The Thrill.

Another one I am wary of is my WASP Crimson Idol shirt (with Blackie on the cross). Now that's mega tame in WASP terms but the mother in law is very religious and I try to avoid wearing it if I know she'll be around. No use creating problems if you can avoid 'em especially with the outlaws. I don't respond well to being preached to either. :\

For the record I don't find any Iron maiden or Megadeth shirts offensive (none that I can think of anyway) - as I've said it's more that I don't relate as much these days to that style/imagery and I've sure got plenty of others to choose from that I might like better :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on May 10, 2015, 09:22:53 AM: While we're not strictly required to wear all-out official suits and stuff at work, most of my colleagues usually do; and I usually don't give a shit about our unofficial dress-code and wear rock or metal t-shirt with jeans every day (I'm working as helicopter design engineer and there's all the government orders, important conferences and stuff). Granted, I don't have any of that offensive t-shirts Brent posted. :lol I guess the most offensive t-shirt I was wearing was this one:

(https://www.nuclearblast.de/static/articles/196/196175.png/1000x1000.png)

Only the pic was smaller and the band's name was above the pic, thus the boobs were clearly visible. That being said, I get those reproachful looks from time to time even when the t-shirts are totally safe and alright, like Helloween - Straight out of Hell, Gamma Ray - Empire of the Undead or some of the newer Dream Theater ones, I guess some people are offended by every tiny reminder of metal.

This probably doesn't belong to this thread, but anyway thought I'll share; I also got a lot of posters on those partitions around my working place, and they tend to trigger some funny reactions from other people. I've got two "This is some kind of book, right?" questions at my Ayreon and Axel Rudi Pell posters, and also one about which theater I was visiting at my Dream Theater poster. :lol The most difficult thing when this happens is not to laugh, I guess.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 09:28:34 AM: Quote from: Evermind on May 10, 2015, 09:22:53 AM
. I've got two "This is some kind of book, right?" questions at my Ayreon

Sorta correct :lol

Quote from: Evermind on May 10, 2015, 09:22:53 AM
That being said, I get those reproachful looks from time to time even when the t-shirts are totally safe and alright, like Helloween - Straight out of Hell, Gamma Ray - Empire of the Undead or some of the newer Dream Theater ones, I guess some people are offended by every tiny reminder of metal.

One thing that's pretty clear these days (dunno if it's just Australia) but people are just itching to get outraged over something - anything.

I actually even used to wear metal shirts in my pharmacist gig - just with a white coat over the top....if some of the PC police knew that I would've been in strife. Beats a shirt and tie any day :)
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Post by: Evermind on May 10, 2015, 09:41:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 09:28:34 AM
I actually even used to wear metal shirts in my pharmacist gig - just with a white coat over the top....if some of the PC police knew that I would've been in strife. Beats a shirt and tie any day :)

It's way more comfortable than shirt-and-tie as far as I concerned. And I tend to work best when I'm most comfortable and when nothing annoys me, so there's that too. In the end, getting the work done within the deadline is what matters most, so no one can complain about my t-shirt choices I think. :lol

And also with metal t-shirt on there's always the chance fellow metalheads from other departments will notice me and we'll get along nicely. That happened a few times already.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 10, 2015, 09:48:53 AM: Luckily none of my band shirts are anything offensive. I've never really had any metal metal shirts anyway.
I have a GNR shirt that's just the big logo, and some DT shirts of album covers and such (and the same one as on the previous page with the little hangman guy, although in regular circumstances it wouldn't be offensive).
I have a Maiden shirt with Eddy on it (not sure if it's an album cover, as I'm not a huge Maiden fan). It's obviously a bit cheesy, but not offensive.

These days I mostly wear nerdy scifi shirts anyway. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 02:30:23 PM: I always loved the metal shirts that have the 3/4 white sleeves and the black middle section with the band logo. All old head bangers used to wear them but they don't seem to make too many of them anymore. Ebay has people selling them but they are usually very worn out and size medium
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2015, 02:41:50 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 02:30:23 PM
I always loved the metal shirts that have the 3/4 white sleeves and the black middle section with the band logo. All old head bangers used to wear them but they don't seem to make too many of them anymore. Ebay has people selling them but they are usually very worn out and size medium
I bought the baseball style shirts most of the time. But Never did I have a black one with white sleeves. Always white with black sleeves. And half the time, I trimmed the sleeves back to t shirt length.
Though I had a bunch of black T's, I generally was not and am not a black T shirt guy, always opting for the white ones, which unfortunately the baseball style was my only option.

Like I had posted previously at some point, I had 5 trash bags filled with them when I moved out of my parents' house, but I have only one left. I really wish I still had them. So many great memories tied to them.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 02:57:28 PM: Iron Maiden must have the biggest selection of shirts available. It's crazy
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2015, 02:58:58 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 02:57:28 PM
Iron Maiden must have the biggest selection of shirts available. It's crazy
When I was in college, I literally could've worn a different Maiden shirt for a month and not repeat.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2015, 03:16:01 PM: One 2015 album that I am enjoying the hell out of is Lords Of The Trident-Frostburn.
(https://i0.wp.com/mothershabooboo.com/lottu/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/frostburn.jpg?fit=758%2C9999)

It's got a couple of good reviews:
https://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/album/9092
https://bravewords.com/reviews/lords-of-the-trident-frostburn

The Longest Journey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnUdEHYcgmY

Shattered Skies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad0E-Skcc3U

It's heavy metal that is very easy on the ears. By no means original, it still hits the spot for me.

Of course, I expect this post to be met with a bunch of:
Quote from: Lowdz on May 05, 2015, 10:32:32 AM
Didn't do a thing for me.
..and..
Quote from: wolfking on May 05, 2015, 03:22:07 PM
I agree with Paul actually, I thought it was average at best.
:D

But I like it anyway.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2015, 03:54:26 PM: Sounds ok to me TAC. :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 04:04:35 PM: I actually didn't mind that. It's pretty damn simple and the vox are a bit soft, but yeah, it does the job. Sorta of reminds me of a softer Grand Magus and a little Dream Evil too. Might check it out.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 04:11:36 PM: I have Frostburn on The List (in TAC terms ) so I've already checked it out to some extent and liked it enough to follow up.

I have quite a number of those white 3/4 sleeve shirts in my VH collection (stashed away) ....most of them are too small to wear . I don't think I've ever seen one being worn in Australia .

One of the rarest I have would be the one from US Festival , which from memory is white with black sleeves.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2015, 04:12:22 PM: :lol
You guys are right on cue.

It's quite melodic, and the lead guitar sound reminds me of the Powerslave album.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 04:13:30 PM: Just checked one of their videos. These guys were definitely the nerds in school. Quite embarrasing really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdwj-IuYBY

EDIT: Wait, haha this one is even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuzxuKbVngM
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 04:21:48 PM: And here I was saying I was getting sick of the cartoonish side of metal fashion :lol They're actually pretty funny - even funnier perhaps than they intend to be.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2015, 04:22:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 04:11:36 PM
I have Frostburn on The List (in TAC terms ) so I've already checked it out to some extent and liked it enough to follow up.

I have quite a number of those white 3/4 sleeve shirts in my VH collection (stashed away) ....most of them are too small to wear . I don't think I've ever seen one being worn in Australia .

One of the rarest I have would be the one from US Festival , which from memory is white with black sleeves.

I bought the black sleeve baseball style jersey at the 1984 show.
This was the back:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8VpTcegCP6o/TzIfArx_bcI/AAAAAAAAGOs/AahBFktjpc4/s320/IMG_5222.JPG)

I couldn't find an image of the front.

I think the baseball style jersey with the white sleeves were sold by the dudes out in the parking lot.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2015, 04:24:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 04:13:30 PM
Just checked one of their videos. These guys were definitely the nerds in school. Quite embarrasing really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdwj-IuYBY

EDIT: Wait, haha this one is even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuzxuKbVngM

Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 04:21:48 PM
And here I was saying I was getting sick of the cartoonish side of metal fashion :lol They're actually pretty funny - even funnier perhaps than they intend to be.

I think both reviews I linked, which is how I learned of the band, state that they should just lose the shtick and play. There are a few cheesy lyrics on the album, but musicly, it's pretty good. Like I said, very easy on the ears.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 04:25:18 PM: By referring to them as "baseball style" perhaps you've explained why they don't seem to exist much in Australia.

You're right too -most of my "parking lot" ones tend to be black with white sleeves.

That's a nice shirt TAC. I'll have to find my "Hide Your Sheep Tour" shirt :lol We missed that tour too - perhaps they were overwhelmed in NZ.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 05:59:38 PM: With that shirt you could have fit in nicely in the doc "Heavy Metal Parking Lot"
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Post by: Jaq on May 10, 2015, 06:06:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 04:13:30 PM
Just checked one of their videos. These guys were definitely the nerds in school. Quite embarrasing really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdwj-IuYBY

EDIT: Wait, haha this one is even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuzxuKbVngM

Second one gets fire and desire rhyming in the first verse. :rollin
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2015, 06:07:22 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 05:59:38 PM
With that shirt you could have fit in nicely in the doc "Heavy Metal Parking Lot"
Heavy Metal Parking Lot was great and brought back so many memories. Saw that very same tour within a few days of that filming.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 06:32:34 PM: I hadn't seen that before - I now have a better insight into why metal fans are often viewed as morons :lol I only had a quick look but I thought 20 year old Dave and his 13 yo girlfriend were interesting :lol Where on Earth was that filmed ?......or is that representative of everywhere?

I'll admit that the crowd experience (including the crazies and the clothes)is one of the reasons I decided to go see KISS one last time in October. It's always an hilarious experience - a bit like a time machine.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 06:34:57 PM: It doesn't paint metal heads in a very positive light.

I believe it was a Judas Priest/Dokken show in summer 86 in LA.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 06:54:44 PM: I always meant to check that film out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 06:57:13 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 06:54:44 PM
I always meant to check that film out.

Its worth it. Funny stuff and only about 15 min long
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 07:22:15 PM: 15 minutes?! I've seen the DVD around for like $20, what the hell?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 07:24:00 PM: Just search on Youtube - it's there in full. Is this seriously out there in Aussie stores?
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 07:56:19 PM: It got rereleased a few years ago in dvd with around two hours of bonus footage and new interviews from the people involved. The doc itself is great but the bonus footage is a one time watch and that's it
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 08:04:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
Just search on Youtube - it's there in full. Is this seriously out there in Aussie stores?

I think this must be the re-release Jason is talking about.

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/movies-tv-shows/movies-tv-shows-on-sale/documentary/heavy-metal-parking-lot/323886/
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 08:39:28 PM: I don't expect any of you guys to ever question me now on whether I'm "metal to the core." ;D I was in this morning for x-rays and here's my knee...........the ankle looks basically the same. :metal ::)

(https://s13.postimg.org/n3f1gmbgn/leg_xray.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 09:03:10 PM: Damn man, that's a hell of a piece of metal. I can't believe how long this injury has taken you to recover. Do they eventually come out, or are they there for good?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2015, 09:08:41 PM: You could say my leg is screwed ;D
Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 09:03:10 PM
Damn man, that's a hell of a piece of metal. I can't believe how long this injury has taken you to recover. Do they eventually come out, or are they there for good?

Yeah it was a year this weekend just passed.

Those are the sort of questions I'm trying to get my head around. The surgeon is "vague as" which doesn't help. I'm walking around okay but still have a lot of trouble taking any weight on a bent knee (squatting , going down hills etc....) and also getting a lot of irritation around that "head" on the plate at the top -right which is right under the skin with scar tissue etc......

He seemed to be encouraging me to get the plates out , but that creates further weak spots until the holes in the bone heal again. Apparently it's just a day surgery , you walk out and a couple of weeks off your feet.

But I pressed him on it again on the way out and he said" of course it's better to leave the plates in if you can" :facepalm: :facepalm:

I'm going to get a second opinion before I do anything. And just keep working hard on strength in the mean time.

I assume your toe is okay now?
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2015, 09:26:27 PM: Yeah, they are very vague and never seem to be able to give you a definite answer. I
'd definitely get a second opinion, but after all you have been through, I'd probably look at getting them out. It shouldn't take long for the bone to fully recover once they are out. But saying that, you'd be guided by a definite proper medical answer.

Yeah, the toe is good. It's only been the last two or three weeks that I can say it's 'almost there' Still can't really stand on my tip toes or kneel with the toe bent, and I still can't bend the toe, but I don't think I ever will. It still swells up a little after a big day, but i'd say it's 95%. I can't believe mine has been 9 months in 3 days, crazy. Nothing like what you have been through though. Credit to your mental toughness, it's hard, but you just gotta keep going.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 12:00:41 AM: Brent youre a rocker and heavy metal to the core!!
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Post by: TAC on May 11, 2015, 03:32:30 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2015, 06:34:57 PM
It doesn't paint metal heads in a very positive light.

I believe it was a Judas Priest/Dokken show in summer 86 in LA.
It was the Judas Priest /Dokken tour but it was in Landover MD.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 04:48:32 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 12:00:41 AM
Brent youre a rocker and heavy metal to the core!!

:metal

Almost at jj levels of metal-ness ;D

Okay..........let's get some of these long talked about Top 10's up and running. My focus will shift from the Best of Year stuff to this and we'll see if we can change the band/topic on a weekly basis. When we run out of ideas I might try and do a big special like 100 Best All Time Rock/Metal Guitarists but I'm a bit over compiling huge lists for the moment.

So what we want here in a band list is a Top 10 favourite songs (ranked or not - up to you) and a ranking of the albums that you're familiar with. No need to bother with certain albums if you don't have them or not overly familiar etc......

I'm sure that you'll all be shocked to see that the first band is Van Halen. :angel: I think it might be easier to split "classic" DLR Van Halen and Van Hagar (+ VH3) into 2 separate weeks. In honour of both singers I managed to squeeze them both onto one shirt. This is one from the short lived "Sammy and Dave" tour in 2002 and is one of the rarer ones I have that's not in storage.

(https://s23.postimg.org/buqdkjrez/Picture_6.jpg)

OK - DLR era Van Halen

(https://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/4259/Women___Children.jpg)

Album Ranking:

1. Van Halen
2. Fair Warning
3.1984
4. Van Halen 2
5 Diver Down
6 Women and Children First
7 A Different Kind Of Truth

I almost forgot ADKOT as I've thought of it as the DLR "six pack" for so long. I haven't spent as much time as I'd like with that album - it has the potential to move up a spot or two over time.

I love all those albums and fwiw , although I'm a big fan of both eras, the only Sammy era album that I would rank higher than some of those is 5150.

As far as songs go I tend to go for some deep cuts . Choosing 10 songs is almost impossible for me where this band is concerned but here's my attempt. Apologies to just about everything else.

Top Ten Songs

Light Up The Sky
On Fire
Atomic Punk
Little Guitars
Secrets
One Foot Out The Door
Mean Street
Romeo Delight
Girl Gone Bad
Ain't Talkin 'Bout Love

Fire away.......
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2015, 05:00:48 AM: 1. Van Halen
2. Fair Warning
2. 1984 (tied)
4. Van Halen 2
5 A Different Kind Of Truth

6 Diver Down

lol. Women and Children First

Boy it is hard to separate some of those VH albums. So many great songs, not just the obvious choices.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 05:02:01 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2015, 05:00:48 AM

Boy it is hard to separate those better VH albums.

My initial reaction was to tie FW and 1984 as well but I decided to try and be decisive :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2015, 05:04:22 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 05:02:01 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2015, 05:00:48 AM

Boy it is hard to separate those better VH albums.

My initial reaction was to tie FW and 1984 as well but I decided to try and be decisive ;D

I tried, but it's hard for me to compare them. On one hand, FW is a consistent album of hard rockers, with some of the best deep cuts of any VH album. 1984 has a couple of clunkers for me, and it's a shorter album, but the best songs are among my favourite songs of all time, so it's a bit more over the map for me.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 05:24:07 AM: I know ........................ ;) I had multiple ties in the Best Of years and tbh when I did my Top 50 albums and was deciding on which VH album to feature I think I had 1984 at second in line.

If you get a chance (and want to) ,let us know your top 10 songs too.
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Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2015, 06:55:12 AM: Forgot about this which has slipped under the radar. Blackwelder with Ralf Scheepers. Listening to a few tracks, pretty safe power metal, but solid enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI4jpEtFDqc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiLa3x7v8Ds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLaLkt4exAY
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 07:00:12 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 11, 2015, 06:55:12 AM
Forgot about this which has slipped under the radar. Blackwelder with Ralf Scheepers. Listening to a few tracks, pretty safe power metal, but solid enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI4jpEtFDqc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiLa3x7v8Ds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLaLkt4exAY

There's too many of these half assed "super groups"/project bands around and the quality reflects that .......Empires of Eden is another with Scheepers. Blackwelder is the better from the little I've heard.

The new Pyramaze will be interesting. I've heard a couple of tracks and it's good but it has that mega loud production as usual and a very definite "modern metal" edge that I wasn't expecting. I'll be interested to see how it's received here.
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Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2015, 07:48:48 AM: I had a listen to a couple of those Empire of Eden tracks and yeah agree, pretty generic and safe. Decent enough but nothing new or refreshing.

I'm interested in that Pyramaze too, it sounds promising. I thought it was out already, must have been thinking of something else.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 08:06:00 AM: DLR albums

1) Fair Warning
2) VH1
3) VH2
4) 1984
5) ADKOT
6) Women & Children First
7) DD

Songs

1) I'll Wait
2) Unchained
3) Ain't Talking About Love
4) On Fire
5) Atomic Punk
6) Light Up the Sky
7) Outta Love Again
8) Somebody Get me a Doctor
9) Cradle Will Rock
10) Panama
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 08:16:02 AM: That's interesting jj............a key song at #1. Some VH fans seem to take great pride in saying that Jump and I'll Wait are some sort of disgrace to the band's name and so forth. I totally disagree and actually with One Foot Out The Door I suppose I have their first significant key track (depends if you count the guitar /key combo of Cradle). Dat solo :tup

Cool to see more love for Light Up The sky and On Fire........and Outta Love Again.

Nice list.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2015, 08:19:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 08:16:02 AM
That's interesting jj............a key song at #1. Some VH fans seem to take great pride in saying that Jump and I'll Wait are some sort of disgrace to the band's name and so forth. I totally disagree and actually with One Foot Out The Door I suppose I have their first significant key track (depends if you count the guitar /key combo of Cradle). Dat solo :tup

If I were to make a list, Jump would very likely be my #1. I also dig the synth, and don't think those songs deserve the hate. Jump still rocks for a song that's mostly keyboards.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 08:22:21 AM: I used to drive people nuts as a little fella (yes , I've been doing that for a long time) rewinding Jump to the start of the solo section over and over and saying "Check this out...........that's the same guy playing the guitar and key solos :hefdaddy " ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2015, 08:36:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 08:22:21 AM
I used to drive people nuts as a little fella (yes , I've been doing that for a long time) rewinding Jump to the start of the solo section and saying "Check this out...........that's the same guy playing the guitar and key solos :hefdaddy " ;D

Fun key solo to play too. One of the few songs I can fully play on keyboard. :metal

I just tried to make my top 10 of the DLR era, and that is damn hard. I could just as easily have made a top 10 with 10 completely different songs, and still have been happy with it. In no particular order at all, here's what I came up with-

Jump
Unchained
Panama
Hot for Teacher
Somebody Get Me a Doctor
Jamie's Crying
Sinner's Swing
Mean Street
Dancing in the Street
She's the Woman
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 08:53:36 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2015, 08:36:02 AM
I could just as easily have made a top 10 with 10 completely different songs, and still have been happy with it.

Yeah - there's probably only 3 or 4 untouchables in my list. We had Mean Street in common too ;D

Interesting to see the Dancing In The Street cover..........I considered You Really Got Me very carefully myself.

Ed's pissed to this day that he was talked into using that Moog riff for a cover version. The solo in that is classic Ed too. It's not really flashy but it's got that classic cheeky vibe to it - he talks to me more in that diving harmonic at the start of it than most guitarists do in a career.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2015, 08:59:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 08:53:36 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2015, 08:36:02 AM
I could just as easily have made a top 10 with 10 completely different songs, and still have been happy with it.

Yeah - there's probably only 3 or 4 untouchables in my list. We had Mean Street in common too ;D

Interesting to see Dancing In The Street ..........I considered You Really Got Me very carefully myself.

Ed's pissed to this day that he was talked into using that keyboard riff for a cover version. The solo in that is classic Ed. It's not really flashy but it's got that classic cheeky vibe to it - he talks more to me in that diving harmonic at the start of it than most guitarists do in a career.

For most bands I wouldn't give covers a thought, but VH always managed to put their own unique take on them, especially in the case of the non-rock stuff.
That keyboard riff is a large part of the groove for that song that I love, so I'm glad it got stuck in there. That combined with the drum pattern and the funky bass makes it a song that's always fun to listen to.

I'd say the top 3 or 4 songs I listed are the sure things, the rest I could change my mind on, because there are so many other strong contenders. I only listed one song from VH1, so that gives you some idea of how tough it was to cut songs.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 12:46:31 PM: Van Halen is a band that I wonder about, if the original line up had stuck together all these years, what kind of output they would have done.

I could never fully get in DLR solo or Van Hagar

That Blackwelder is solid
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Post by: TAC on May 11, 2015, 12:52:54 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 04:48:32 AM
Album Ranking:

1. Van Halen
2. Fair Warning
3.1984
4. Van Halen 2
5 Diver Down
6 Women and Children First
7 A Different Kind Of Truth

As far as songs go I tend to go for some deep cuts . Choosing 10 songs is almost impossible for me where this band is concerned but here's my attempt. Apologies to just about everything else.

Top Ten Songs

Light Up The Sky
On Fire
Atomic Punk
Little Guitars
Secrets
One Foot Out The Door
Mean Street
Romeo Delight
Girl Gone Bad
Ain't Talkin 'Bout Love

I go:

1. Van Halen
2. Fair Warning
3. Women And Children First
4. Van Halen II
5. 1984
6. A Different Kind Of Truth
7. Diver Down

Top 10 tracks:
Light Up The Sky
Atomic Punk
On Fire
I'm The One
In A Simple Rhyme
Fools
So This Is Love
The Full Bug
Unchained
Honeybabysweetiedoll
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 01:13:22 PM: Honeybabysweetiedoll is a great tune!
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Post by: TAC on May 11, 2015, 01:29:15 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 01:13:22 PM
Honeybabysweetiedoll is a great tune!
No doubt.

I remember the first time I heard the album I looked at that song title and thought WTF?
Then I got hit by a freight train.
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Post by: TAC on May 11, 2015, 06:19:07 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 08:06:00 AM
DLR albums

1) Fair Warning

Songs

1) I'll Wait
2) Unchained
3) Ain't Talking About Love
4) On Fire
5) Atomic Punk
6) Light Up the Sky
7) Outta Love Again
8) Somebody Get me a Doctor
9) Cradle Will Rock
10) Panama

Just seeing this now.
That's an interesting pick for #1, JJ.

Loving the love for Atomic Punk and Light Up The Sky, two of my favorites as well.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 06:39:20 PM: I've always found "I'll Wait" to be one of the catchiest songs I've ever heard, not just from VH. Excellent song
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Post by: TAC on May 11, 2015, 06:42:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
I've always found "I'll Wait" to be one of the catchiest songs I've ever heard, not just from VH. Excellent song
It's the last VH song I'd expect to see on YOUR list. :)
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 07:14:11 PM: There isn't one song from the DLR era that I don't enjoy
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 10:16:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 11, 2015, 06:42:17 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
I've always found "I'll Wait" to be one of the catchiest songs I've ever heard, not just from VH. Excellent song
It's the last VH song I'd expect to see on YOUR list. :)

In A Simple Rhyme is one of the last I would've expected on yours :) But yeah - I'm like JJ .....I pretty much like them all.

I like your list too Tim and obviously at the very top we're pretty much the same for albums and songs. Fools is one I didn't expect to see either . I used to love playing that as a kid - "I'm and sick and tired of golden rulessssssa" ;D

So This Is Love, I'm The One, The Full Bug and Unchained were all very close to my Top Ten.

Today's shirt is a very well loved 1979 tour shirt . I normally wouldn't wear a shirt of this vintage so heavily but I have a mint one in one of those frames I posted a while back , so what the hell.

(https://s2.postimg.org/8kzt4kzi1/Picture_7.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2015, 02:54:14 AM: That shirt looks very worn/loved
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Post by: TAC on May 12, 2015, 05:56:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 10:16:50 PM

In A Simple Rhyme is one of the last I would've expected on yours :) But yeah - I'm like JJ .....I pretty much like them all.

I like your list too Tim and obviously at the very top we're pretty much the same for albums and songs. Fools is one I didn't expect to see either . I used to love playing that as a kid - "I'm and sick and tired of golden rulessssssa" ;D

So This Is Love, I'm The One, The Full Bug and Unchained were all very close to my Top Ten.

I've always loved In A Simple Rhyme.
Love the line:
"Ain't life grand when you finally hit it"...

And Fools is so badass.
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Post by: TAC on May 12, 2015, 06:17:31 AM: Are you F'n kidding me?
https://bravewords.com/news/kiss-meets-scooby-doo-blu-ray-dvd-artwork-revealed

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2015/55519FFC-kiss-meets-scooby-doo-blu-ray-dvd-artwork-revealed-image.png)
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2015, 07:49:10 AM: Oh good more money for Gene
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Post by: bl5150 on May 12, 2015, 07:56:41 AM: I may be the only old fart around getting his 7 yo son into KISS but he would love that :lol And it has to be better than most of the kid flicks I sit through .
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Post by: Lowdz on May 12, 2015, 10:43:19 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 12, 2015, 07:56:41 AM
I may be the only old fart around getting his 7 yo son into KISS but he would love that :lol And it has to be better than most of the kid flicks I sit through .

Heard about this a few months ago. My kids can't wait.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 12, 2015, 10:44:09 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 11, 2015, 06:42:17 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
I've always found "I'll Wait" to be one of the catchiest songs I've ever heard, not just from VH. Excellent song
It's the last VH song I'd expect to see on YOUR list. :)

I love this song.
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2015, 03:57:31 PM: That's probably one of the smartest things I've seen to introduce an entire new generation into your music.
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Post by: TAC on May 12, 2015, 04:31:29 PM: IIRC, didn't Gene lend his voice in the original Scooby Doo series?
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 12, 2015, 05:01:01 PM: Scooby Doo- "Ru Ro!"

Gene- "Well all right". :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 12, 2015, 09:27:58 PM: New Satriani album Shockwave Supernova due 24th July - features Marco Minnemann and Mike Keneally.

Today's shirt

(https://s15.postimg.org/yl4uqmmt7/Picture_8.jpg)

I just started a bit of a wardrobe tidy (the missus will be happy with DTF for that) and the good news is I won't even need to dip into my collection in storage to make it through the 2 VH weeks :metal

I stumbled onto something interesting while I was there - I'm not sure if this is :metal or :-[ This is a self designed/made shirt that I took to a local printer. I couldn't get many VH shirts locally so I decided I'd do it myself. I'm guessing it was done when I was around 14 yo (so 1988) and I've used a play on words from Ain't Talkin' Bout Love . I didn't notice until a while later that they'd stuffed up the spelling on "Talkin'" :lol

(https://s14.postimg.org/s2z7q1glt/Picture_9.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 12:31:19 AM: How many rock shirts do you have in total Brent? And how many VH?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 12:42:16 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 12:31:19 AM
How many rock shirts do you have in total Brent? And how many VH?

I'll get back to you :lol We'll see how long I can keep this going without doubling up.

A big guess would be 100-110 shirts - of those I have 15-20 Van Halen in my wardrobe and another 6 in frames + at least another 15-20 vintage ones in storage. Then there's the jackets etc...I have posted.

The only bands where I reckon I could fill out their Top 10 week with shirts would be VH, KISS, and maybe Savatage. Like TAC plenty have been thrown out over the years but I have managed to hang on to most of my faves despite badgering to "create room" :)
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 02:15:39 AM: Impressive!
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 05:11:32 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 02:15:39 AM
Impressive!

What - that I held my ground against a nagging wife who wants to create wardrobe space? :lol
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2015, 05:12:32 AM: New Satch, hell yeah. His last one was actually really impressive.

EDIT: Actually, I thought Black Swans was his last one, that was great. The last one didn't do as much for me, but I didn't give it many spins either. Will have to get it out. This will be his 15th studio album, impressive.

EDIT 2: There's a bit of a preview here;

https://www.guitarworld.com/node/24440

It sounds really nice.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 03:08:01 PM: Brent, I know you are a huge VH fan. What did you think/rate VHIII with Gary Cherone?

I was just watching some live footage, and Cherone has good charisma and did a pretty good job with the old songs
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2015, 03:20:42 PM: I, for one, completely ignored VH III. I had no interest in it. I have never heard a lick of it.
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 13, 2015, 04:45:47 PM: Live they were great. Eddie had too much power in the studio and needed a real producer reign him in.
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2015, 04:50:05 PM: Ironically, the only time I saw Gary Cherone (Extreme) live was when they were opening for DLR.
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 13, 2015, 04:51:10 PM: What tour for Extreme was that Tim?
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2015, 04:53:59 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on May 13, 2015, 04:51:10 PM
What tour for Extreme was that Tim?
Summer of '91 at Great Woods, not sure what album they had out.

DLR
Cinderella
Extreme
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 06:10:31 PM: I haven't listened to VH3 since it was a new release. But I do remember it being a grind to get through in its entirety
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 06:59:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Brent, I know you are a huge VH fan. What did you think/rate VHIII with Gary Cherone?

I was just watching some live footage, and Cherone has good charisma and did a pretty good job with the old songs

Like many I don't rate the album but enjoyed the tour. I also met EVH on that tour which helped :) If I can ever find the photo - I definitely have it somewhere - I'll post it,.

I recall being quite excited (but nervous) about the prospect of a VH3 album as I was a big Extreme fan too. I was into the stores to get Without You the minute it was released and when I put it on I thought "WTF is this garbage". A lot of people who dislike the album as a whole seem to like that song but I think it's horrible. The album does have its moments but it's not something I ever listen to. In order to make it any sort of success they needed to change to suit Garry ,not make him sing like Sammy.

The tour was good mostly because EVH made a huge comeback in terms of his playing standard and we got to hear DLR stuff live. It was at that point the first Australian VH tour also. Cherone was good live but definitely struggled with the Sammy stuff. His stage image/presence (which I never noticed much in Extreme as it seems to fit) didn't suit VH at all I thought- he prances around like a bit of a fairy. On the whole though I think he did a good job and I do recall him doing some crazy shit like climbing up and hanging on to the edge of a balcony in front of us. I must have a photo somewhere.

So overall I dislike the album (although it has a few good moments) but enjoyed the tour.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 07:04:40 PM: Yes I did notice the prancing when watching the live clips
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 07:08:11 PM: Unfortunately DLR gives me the same feeling these days with his shimmying and tai chi/kendo moves :lol Although the stick twirling during the Jump solo is kinda cool.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 07:50:41 PM: Here's an example of the Pyramaze I was talking about. The new singer sounds like he has the talent but the music to me is overproduced and they seem to be going for a "modern metal" sound that doesn't generally resonate with me. I'll keep an open mind though until I hear it - it's getting strong reviews too.

https://youtu.be/Wnx9NfowCXc
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2015, 08:11:30 PM: Hey Brent, your thoughts on DLR solo and Van Hagar?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 08:40:18 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 13, 2015, 08:11:30 PM
Hey Brent, your thoughts on DLR solo and Van Hagar?

I'll start Top Tens on both of these soon but , in short ,I really like both. I lost interest in Roth solo for the most part after A Little Ain't Enough, although Your Filthy Little Mouth and DLR Band have their moments. Van Hagar were responsible for a couple of my all time favourite songs (Dreams being one) and appealed to my melodic sense as distinct from the humor , aggression and attitude that I love classic Van Halen for. In my eyes they're two different bands and that's why I felt it might be better to separate the Top Tens. I also felt that post OU812 Ed's lead guitar playing deteriorated quite a bit and became very repetitive , so that side of things lost some appeal. Some of Sammy's lyrics are downright awful at times too and the quality of the songwriting became a bit up and down. Once the shit really started to hit the fan internally they got a bit darker on Balance and especially Humans Being .....it might have been interesting to hear what the next album revealed there.

I think all the Van Hagar albums have some great moments though and they're all still up among my most played albums ever. Live Without A Net is probably my all time favourite official music DVD release too.

I think I mentioned in my DLR era top 10 that only 5150 would rank above any of the DLR era VH albums for me these days and so I suppose that says something in terms of how I see it now. It wouldn't have been so clear cut back in the 80's though - I really did love my Van Hagar.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 13, 2015, 08:47:48 PM: 5150 would rank as one of my favourite VH albums overall (it would continue the tie for 2nd place), and F.U.C.K would easily top WACF and DD, and be on par with a couple of the others, so I consider the quality of those two to be as good as the Roth era. OU812 has some great songs, but it's a weaker album overall, and the production is shit. I don't care much for Balance, a couple of songs aside.

I'm glad you did the two eras separately here, because I had a hard enough time making a top 10 of just the DLR stuff. :lol Becoming a fan after the fact, I generally don't care to compare them or choose one over the other, it's all good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 09:51:34 PM: I'm just a casual Van Hagar fan, but "Dreams" & "Humans Being" are fantastic tracks
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 13, 2015, 10:16:11 PM: It's nice to see Humans Being get this much recognition. I'd expect a song recorded for a Best Of to get overlooked or ignored, but it's such a damn good song.
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Post by: SystematicThought on May 13, 2015, 10:23:49 PM: The anger behind the song is really felt throughout the whole piece. I imagine if the lineup stuck together and continued being pissed off at each other, the resulting album could have been something really great. Balance had a bit of tension, but nowhere near what the next one could have been.

Also, thank God the brothers called the director of Twister who told them he didn't want a song about tornadoes, or else we would have gotten Sammy's original lyrics for "The Suck Zone"
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 10:39:13 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 13, 2015, 10:16:11 PM
It's nice to see Humans Being get this much recognition.

Yeah - and I'm also pleasantly surprised to see my favourite deep cuts being so high on others lists too.

Quote from: SystematicThought on May 13, 2015, 10:23:49 PM

Also, thank God the brothers called the director of Twister who told them he didn't want a song about tornadoes, or else we would have gotten Sammy's original lyrics for "The Suck Zone"

:lol Sammy was in the WTF Zone with some of his lyrics. Up For Breakfast too ::)
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 10:42:34 PM: Anyone who hasn't posted their lists yet - now's the time. It'd be cool to get more than 4 entries if we can.

I'll summarise the results and get a Sammy era one started over the weekend.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 13, 2015, 10:43:32 PM: I love Up For Breakfast, and I like the lyrics too, but to me they sound very sexually confused. :lol
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Post by: SystematicThought on May 13, 2015, 10:43:47 PM: I like those lyrics :lol. I was ten when I heard it the first time and I thought he was literally talking about breakfast options. Ten year old me thought cream all over bananas sounded pretty good for breakfast.

Little did I know...
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Post by: WebRaider on May 13, 2015, 10:44:12 PM: VH III was a poor effort overall and it's just nothing like VH but I still really dig "A Year to the Day" a whole bunch. Some cool playing from Eddie in that song (a bit different stylistically for him) and raw emotion from Cherone.

Thought Cherone did an awesome job on that tour... was extremely impressed. Of course sorta like bl5150 I have to preface the experience with the fact that I was front row and that was a small club show... VH in a small club??? Freaking awesome!!! Eddie ripping in your face? Yeah.

Unfortunately I saw them with Hagar on the horrid 04' tour that should have never been done. I've seen them three times with Roth since their comeback (was too young to have caught them prior to their breakup :( ) the last in 12' I was front row with my eldest offspring so it was exceptionally cool.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 10:48:14 PM: Quote from: WebRaider on May 13, 2015, 10:44:12 PM

Unfortunately I saw them with Hagar on the horrid 04' tour that should have never been done.

Some of you guys might be familiar with the Limited Edition EVH Art guitars that Eddie did - one of a kind hand striped designs that were played live, signed and auctioned off by Eddie gradually over the 04, 07-08 and 11-12 tours.

One of the 04 ones was sold in pieces :lol Says it all.
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Post by: SystematicThought on May 13, 2015, 10:51:36 PM: Wasn't that one of the last shows of the tour where he got pissed off and smashed the guitar and then ran offstage?

And I think this picture sums up the 2004 tour. Jumbled and messy
(https://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/sammy-hagar-claims-new-van-halen-record-is-all-old-stuff-20111121/rectangle.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 10:58:11 PM: Ed doesn't have the Samurai hair there , so it's a good night :lol I believe the guitar in question was smashed in Hamilton, Ontario but I'm not 100% sure. And Up For Breakfast was the song causing the problems if I recall correctly :) Still sold for 10 grand ;D

The 07-08 (not so much 07 which got a bit average at times too) and 11-12 guitars were a much better standard of striping , autographing and general condition.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 14, 2015, 03:50:33 AM: Today's shirt and memorabilia is dedicated to WACF and Blob - I don't have much memorabilia lying around but I found a signed album just to make it extra special for you. ;D The band looked so damn cool around this era.

The shirt below that is one I had forgotten about. The Van Nailin' shirt was designed by Michael Starr of Steel Panther and of course as soon as I saw it I had to make some calls and get one for myself. It took a lot of work as the guy who produced it was a unreliable tosser but I got it in the end.

(https://s14.postimg.org/lpr4jmb01/Picture_10.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.org/xfqfyjzgh/Picture_12.jpg)

(https://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/noisecreep.com/files/2011/10/photo---general-publicity-shot-1-f.-scott-schafer.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 14, 2015, 04:20:11 AM: Man, WACF doesn't even have a cool album cover to save it (although a signed vinyl is still very nice). Actually, Diver Down's album cover sucks too, and OU812 has the most dull band photo ever as its cover. I think the quality of their albums must be relative to how good the album cover is. :P
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Post by: bl5150 on May 14, 2015, 04:23:19 AM: Their two best album covers by a mile are the debut and 1984 IMO. 5150 and Balance are okay but none of the rest really do much for me.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 14, 2015, 04:27:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 14, 2015, 04:23:19 AM
Their two best album covers by a mile are the debut and 1984 IMO.

That alone backs up my theory! And I agree they're the best covers. VH2 also has a cool cover, with just the big logo, F.U.C.K is ok for the same reason. I'm undecided on what I think of the FW cover when I don't associate it with the music. I don't like the Balance cover. Too weird and serious and dark.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 14, 2015, 04:33:24 AM: The story behind the Fair Warning album art is certainly interesting anyway

"The original artwork is from a grotesque painting by Canadian artist William Kurelek (1927-1977). Raised on a prairie farm in midwestern Canada, he had experienced such a brutal childhood that he had become extremely withdrawn, eventually retiring into a private world of weird fantasies. In one of these, he imagined that if he cut off the flesh of his arm (lower right chamber) he would be shocked back to human feelings. When he actually made some cuts on his arm, he was admitted to a hospital for psychiatric treatment. There, the 26 year old was given treatment for schizophrenia. Additionally, the sympathetic doctors gave Kurelek a room to pursue his artistic endeavors, a passion deemed helpful by his therapists. It was during this stay that he created a painting he called “The Maze”, a harrowing portrayal of his tortured youth in Canada during the Great Depression."

(https://billdesowitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/The-Maze-credit-Bethlem-Royal-Hospital-Museum-Archives.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 14, 2015, 04:38:18 AM: I'd seen the original artwork before, but I didn't know the story behind it. That's pretty metal.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 14, 2015, 08:40:32 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 14, 2015, 04:38:18 AM
I'd seen the original artwork before, but I didn't know the story behind it. That's pretty metal.

Cool, I always liked the FW cover
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Post by: Lowdz on May 14, 2015, 11:56:39 AM: I'm not the world's biggest VH fan. I generally prefer the Dave era but half of most albums was filler and the albums were short to start with. FW made my top 50 - that's a great album but still runs out of steam at the end... 1984 is great too with less filler. I hated 5150 (I'll take Dave's Eat Em everytime) but again it still had 3-4 good songs. I like Balance most out of the SH era and never bothered with VH III.

I do have a very awesome double compilation I made though, weeding out all the chaff.

Legendary guitarist though, no doubt. He lost his way long ago though.
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Post by: WebRaider on May 14, 2015, 03:05:18 PM: I wasn't going to put lists together because honestly it changes day to day and its really impossible to judge especially the songs in the DLR era for me but I'll throw something out there....

Album Ranking:

1.Van Halen
2.1984
3.Fair Warning
4.Van Halen II
5 Women and Children First
6 Diver Down
7 A Different Kind Of Truth

Fair Warning, Van Halen II, and Women and Children First all pretty much are even for me behind the top two.

Top Ten Songs:

Light Up The Sky
On Fire
Atomic Punk
Mean Street
Romeo Delight
Girl Gone Bad
Unchained
Everybody Wants Some!!
Panama
House of Pain

I generally prefer the deeper cuts today for the most part but some of the classics just have to be listed.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 14, 2015, 10:26:08 PM: Thanks Webraider and Paul.......I appreciate the extra input and it'll help keep these going. I could advertise the Top Tens on the thread title to get a few more entries perhaps but why would I when the regulars (and lurkers) here are already the best in the biz when it comes to hard rock and metal ? :-* :tup

Webraider's list is so close to mine it's not funny so :hifive:

So it's pretty clear that the two most popular albums are Van Halen and Fair Warning , with 1984 a strong 3rd. I can't say that surprised me .

What has surprised me (outside of Unchained) is the top songs. I thought I might be the lone advocate for songs like Light Up The Sky, On Fire and Atomic Punk but it turns out it's the "classics" that needed the help :metal

Most mentions in the Top Tens is a tie between:

Unchained
Light Up The Sky
On Fire
Atomic Punk

Awesome :metal

Today's shirt brought to you by William Kurulek

(https://s8.postimg.org/bdli9v1bp/Picture_13.jpg)

I'll see if I can find a couple more Roth era rarities over the weekend without opening "the vault" and then we'll move onto Sammy era on Monday. And then we'll get into some other bands for a while before returning to DLR solo.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 14, 2015, 10:55:31 PM: Weird. On Fire would be my least favourite on VH1 (although being the weakest from such an amazing album still makes it a good song), and Light Up The Sky is the first weak song on VH2.
Atomic Punk is good though (but still only average for VH1), and Unchained is awesome, so at least I can almost agree 50% with something on DTF. That's some consolation. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 15, 2015, 01:00:22 AM: All of those songs are ass kickers!!!

I wonder what the reaction was when Diver Down came out? I enjoy it but it's clearly a drop from the first 4 albums
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Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 01:08:24 AM: This article does a decent job of outlining the context around Diver Down

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-diver-down-turns-30/

Given the situation I think it's a damn good effort and it cops a lot of unfair criticism IMO. Most of the material on it wouldn't have seen the light of day but for record company pressure.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 15, 2015, 02:41:49 AM: Interesting article
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 15, 2015, 07:31:59 AM: I almost never contribute to this thread, but at least I got a VH ranking:

1. Fair Warning
2. 1984
3. Van Halen
4. A Different Kind Of Truth
5. Women and Children First
6. Van Halen II
7. Diver Down

The album order is pretty much stable, although the difference between the first three is minimal, it's more like 1a, 1b and 1c.

The song order may change any day but most of the time it will contain at least half of these songs:

1. Panama
2. Mean Street
3. And The Cradle Will Rock
4. Ain't Talkin' bout Love
5. Unchained
6. Take Your Whiskey Home
7. Dirty Movies
8. Top Jimmy
9. Feel Your Love Tonight
10. Little Guitars

Some of them may be not so obvious, but on the other hand, some of the most mentioned songs so far (On Fire, Atomic Punk) are my least favorite. And I got trouble ranking the songs from ADKOT with the older ones, maybe She's The Woman would make it, but they feel kinda different and they are just not old enough to be considered "classic".
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 07:59:33 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 15, 2015, 07:31:59 AM
I almost never contribute to this thread

Well thanks for this contribution- another lurker arises :) :tup I've seen enough of your posts to know that you know your rock and metal too. :metal

Dirty Movies and Take Your Whiskey Home were close for me too , so good to see them get some love.

Well I don't think this changes the album rankings much but , unless we get another entry , I think we can now give the title unanimously to Unchained. A song which everyone seems to rate highly. It didn't make my Top 10 ,but was close and only missed because I think I've overdone it over the years.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 15, 2015, 08:12:20 AM: Luckily I don't think it's possible for me to overdo VH, otherwise it would have happened by now with at least half of my top 10, including Unchained. :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 15, 2015, 08:41:43 AM: It happened to me with most bands that I like, that at some point I've overdone songs or albums, but with VH it doesn't seem to happen and that's a good thing.

Unchained being the top song is a compromise I can live with.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 08:58:58 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 15, 2015, 08:12:20 AM
Luckily I don't think it's possible for me to overdo VH

Be careful - I thought that for a while until I ended up with a room in my house full of their stuff :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 15, 2015, 09:09:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 08:58:58 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 15, 2015, 08:12:20 AM
Luckily I don't think it's possible for me to overdo VH

Be careful - I thought that for a while until I ended up with a room in my house full of their stuff :lol

I only meant to listen to. I don't have the money for that. :lol Although I do plan to eventually get the VH pattern shoes, but that's about it.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 09:22:15 AM: Just kidding :) Given my completist streak it's a good thing I didn't become a full on KISS kollector. :omg: Impossibles.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 15, 2015, 12:30:03 PM: One HM for me from Fair Warning would be "Push Comes to Shove". What a cool tune!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 15, 2015, 12:31:06 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 15, 2015, 12:30:03 PM
One HM for me from Fair Warning would be "Push Comes to Shove". What a cool tune!
I believe it was inevitable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 15, 2015, 12:32:37 PM: Ha good one
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on May 15, 2015, 01:09:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 09:22:15 AM
Just kidding :) Given my completist streak it's a good thing I didn't become a full on KISS kollector. :omg: Impossibles.
That was me for a while. I realized how crazy it was getting when I was attempting to acquire a tourbook from each tour of theirs, including variations. Something snapped inside, I said "What the hell am I doing?!?" and sold virtually everything off on eBay. The only ones I kept were Asylum (my first ever concert) and the Farewell tour book. There's still plenty of KISS krap in my kollection. But, other than Kiss-related books that come out, my KISS kollecting has stopped. I know it's silly but I felt the need to commit to the "k" at the beginning of all "c" words once I started.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 09:17:39 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 15, 2015, 12:30:03 PM
One HM for me from Fair Warning would be "Push Comes to Shove". What a cool tune!

Ditto jj - very cool song and was on my "short" list.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 09:19:24 PM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on May 15, 2015, 01:09:55 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 09:22:15 AM
Just kidding :) Given my completist streak it's a good thing I didn't become a full on KISS kollector. :omg: Impossibles.
That was me for a while. I realized how crazy it was getting when I was attempting to acquire a tourbook from each tour of theirs, including variations. Something snapped inside, I said "What the hell am I doing?!?" and sold virtually everything off on eBay. The only ones I kept were Asylum (my first ever concert) and the Farewell tour book. There's still plenty of KISS krap in my kollection. But, other than Kiss-related books that come out, my KISS kollecting has stopped. I know it's silly but I felt the need to commit to the "k" at the beginning of all "c" words once I started.

:lol It seems I have the same problem :)

The Farewell Tour was a good one - still going 15 years later ;D

As far as tour books go I honestly can't remember what I have for Van Halen - I know I have Fair Warning, 5150 and OU812. Pretty sure I have 79 and 80 but can't be certain without tearing the house down.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 10:11:13 PM: Here's a weird one guys.

A Kickstarter style campaign for a horror movie starring Ralf Scheepers and Veronica Freeman (Benedictum) and scored by Michael Romeo (Symphony X)

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/devil-s-five
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2015, 01:23:58 AM: That is a bit weird.

When I checked only $50 had been raised of the needed $20000
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 16, 2015, 01:35:50 AM: That's from only one backer too.

I wouldn't give someone $20k for a 1 minute video of still frames and a cheesy title graphic. Maybe some demo footage, or previous works? Geez. The title image below is even worse.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2015, 01:50:41 AM: I could see Ralf playing the role of an evil dude for sure
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Post by: bl5150 on May 16, 2015, 04:46:21 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 16, 2015, 01:23:58 AM
That is a bit weird.

When I checked only $50 had been raised of the needed $20000

To be fair it has only been up for a day or so - we break the news as it happens around here :metal

When wolfie sees that there's a 10 min Skype session up for grabs with Ralfie , watch the pledges soar :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2015, 06:04:10 AM: If the Skype session happens between Ralf and Wolf, Kade should use that chance to show him his guitar wizardry.

Wolf would likely become the new guitarist for Primal Fear!!
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Post by: bl5150 on May 16, 2015, 09:35:04 AM: I'm out all day Sunday so I'll finish off DLR era VH week with a tribute to my all time #1...........a simple VH logo shirt and my holy grail of signed VH albums.

(https://s17.postimg.org/50ux7fokv/Picture_14.jpg)

Van Hagar on Monday and then I think , in remembrance of the little "elf" , the following week we'll do Dio . :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 16, 2015, 09:43:23 AM: Both awesome. :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2015, 09:49:07 AM: Did you personally get those signatures or did you buy it as is?

Regardless very cool and should be behind a glass frame
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Post by: bl5150 on May 16, 2015, 09:55:52 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 16, 2015, 09:49:07 AM
Did you personally get those signatures or did you buy it as is?

Regardless very cool and should be behind a glass frame

it may not be obvious but it's in a plexi glass fronted frame.

No I didn't get the signatures - I waited many years to find an example like that. To the best of my knowledge it is likely one of the original examples that were done in the record store promos the band did in 1978 - they tended to be in uniform gold sharpie (like mine) , with each member carefully signing their "box" without obscuring the photo .

Aside from the fact that there are fakes everywhere (ask someone who knows what they're doing before even attempting to buy one...I studied them for years before finding one I was happy with) there are other things to consider too. For example from the early 90's onward Ed started noting the year of signing and that immediately diminishes collectability of a Roth era album.

Either way a signed VH 1 is the one to have . I have plenty of other DLR era memorabilia that I'll get to one day. Once we pass Van Halen I won't be able to keep up the daily rotation of memorabilia :) I'll just keep various shirts going and try to have one for most of the bands we discuss.
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2015, 03:38:00 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 16, 2015, 06:04:10 AM
If the Skype session happens between Ralf and Wolf, Kade should use that chance to show him his guitar wizardry.

Wolf would likely become the new guitarist for Primal Fear!!

I could be Magnus' touring guitarist, since he never tours with them. :lol i'd definitely hit Ralf up for a project though. :lol

It's now raised $115. I'd rather give him money to ditch this and get the new PF out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 17, 2015, 01:46:34 PM: Has Magnus never toured with PF?
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2015, 03:44:24 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 17, 2015, 01:46:34 PM
Has Magnus never toured with PF?

He has, but not much at all from what I know. He seems to always pull out and stay put, the band have always had no issue with it. On the last tour they had old guitarist Tom Naumann touring with them. Would love to see him back in the lineup.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 17, 2015, 06:32:05 PM: I'm still hoping that Primal Fear releases a live album from the DTB tour
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2015, 08:38:04 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 17, 2015, 06:32:05 PM
I'm still hoping that Primal Fear releases a live album from the DTB tour

Fuck yeah, that would be magic. I'd probably put DTB in my top 50 now. One of the greatest heavy metal albums I've heard in years, and still as fresh today as when it was released.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 17, 2015, 10:28:56 PM: I agree me too. Top 50!

That's why I would love to hear live versions. They sound great on YouTube but a pro release is really needed!
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Post by: bl5150 on May 17, 2015, 10:37:11 PM: I really liked the first song on the last Primal Fear but after that I thought it was just okay. I'll return to it shortly and see if time has changed my mind - when guys who generally share my taste rave about something that I'm not into it makes me want to "try" and like it . Rarely works though ;D

Van Hagar week is here. :metal

As we go forward I'll try and keep to bands that all of us are familiar with for as long as I can - that will also mean some huge discogs involved that not all of us will be right across. That happens even with some bands that I'm a huge fan of with their various "eras". The Top 10 songs will remain consistent but if you find it easier than ranking a whole discog (and to keep things semi-consistent) then please rank your Top 5 albums from the artist .

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/df/e1/69/dfe1699478750caff03e94aebc866dd1.jpg)

This was always going to be tough to rank and I have listened to the Van Hagar albums today to help me out a bit . I can't say that it helped much with the song selection , but I liked FUCK a bit better than I remembered and Balance a bit less which resulted in them being switched in my rankings vs what I would've done "off the top of my head". Very close call......in fact my album ratings for the bottom three were within 2%.

My Top 10 songs are pretty evenly spread across the albums but of those that just missed out the vast majority would be from 5150 and therefore the top album is no contest.

I must say that , even if I don't like all the songs, it's nice to listen to bands like this where each album has its own sound and each song has its own vibe. And ,although I have moved more into the DLR-era camp in recent years , Van Hagar remains one of my all time favourite bands and songs like Dreams would be in line for my Top whatever songs of all time.

Album Ranking

1. 5150
2. OU812
3. F.U.C.K
4. Balance

Top 10 Songs

Dreams
5150
Mine All Mine
AFU (Naturally Wired)
Sucker In A 3 Piece
Judgement Day
Pleasure Dome
Crossing Over
Feelin'
Humans Being

If we were to choose only from the regular Van Halen studio albums then sub out Humans Being and add Best of Both Worlds.

Today's shirt might well be my first ever band shirt , bought around 1988 I'm guessing - I've seen it go for big $$ used on Ebay so I'm assuming it's one of the rarer Sammy era shirts. It's also about the only white t-shirt I own :lol

(https://s8.postimg.org/q53o0ffyd/Picture_15.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 17, 2015, 10:49:52 PM: Unlike DLR era, this one is easy as shit to rank.

1. 5150
2. F.U.C.K

3. OU812

4. Balance

Songs in no particular order because that's how I roll-

Dreams
Humans Being
Why Can't This Be Love
Poundcake
Runaround
Source of Infection
Good Enough
Get Up
Cabo Wabo
When It's Love

Dreams would be one of my favourite songs too. Dat outro.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 18, 2015, 02:25:49 AM: Only a casual fan so won't rank the albums as I only have DLR albums.

As far as songs go, Dreams and Humans Being are the clear one and two.

Other songs I like are Runaround ,Poundcake, Why Can't this be Love and Don't Tell Me What Love Can do
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Post by: bl5150 on May 18, 2015, 03:40:39 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 18, 2015, 02:25:49 AM
Only a casual fan so won't rank the albums as I only have DLR albums.

As far as songs go, Dreams and Humans Being are the clear one and two.

Other songs I like are Runaround ,Poundcake, Why Can't this be Love and Don't Tell Me What Love Can do

If you like a lot of those commercial tracks I'd be surprised if you didn't like the more rocking stuff like AFU , Mine All Mine , Sucker and Judgement Day....and even the more atmospheric songs like Pleasure Dome. Kick ass rhythm work there from Al and Mike.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 18, 2015, 03:50:46 AM: I doubt there is anything from Van Hagar that I would dislike. I've just never gotten fully into them because of the overall sap factor. All decent stuff though.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 18, 2015, 04:24:22 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 18, 2015, 03:50:46 AM
I doubt there is anything from Van Hagar that I would dislike. I've just never gotten fully into them because of the overall sap factor. All decent stuff though.

Actually, the popular stuff you already know basically accounts for anything "sappy", which I'd say gives a mistaken overall impression. Good Enough, Get Up, and Source of Infection are rockin' deeper cuts.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 18, 2015, 04:56:34 AM: I'll check them out
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Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2015, 05:42:44 AM: This new Pyramaze is sounding fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wnx9NfowCXc
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 18, 2015, 12:19:58 PM: Van Hagar ranking:

Albums:

1. F.U.C.K.
2. 5150
3. Balance
4. OU 812

Overall the Hagar albums are more consistent in quality (at least for me) then the Roth albums. In the Roth ranking the difference between first and last place is huge, in the Hagar ranking they are very close.

Songs:

1. 5150
2. Right Now
3. Don't Tell Me (What Love Can Do)
4. In 'n' Out
5. Dreams
6. The Dream Is Over
7. Judgement Day
8. Mine All Mine
9. Cabo Wabo
10. Why Can't This Be Love

As in the Roth ranking, the album ranking is constant, the song ranking may change from day to day.

Roth or Hagar? I really can't say, I like them both to death. The Roth era is more rough and spontaneous, the Hagar era is more polished but the songwriting is more mature (not necessarily lyrics-wise) and, let's face it, Hagar is by far the better singer.
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Post by: TAC on May 18, 2015, 01:37:07 PM: While I don't consider myself a huge Van Hagar guy, it was still Van Halan and I saw them many times back in the day. I remember some summer shows they did at Great Woods, where it was so freaking hot, they were fantastic shows. Obviously Michael Anthony and Sammy had great chemistry. Such fun times.

Anyway, album wise, I did not care for 5150 AT ALL when it came out. And the tour was just OK. Seemed like a band still feeling themselves out. Though VH won the war, DLR won that first battle. By a mile.
I really love OU812. Seemed to be so much looser and had a lot more personality than 5150.

1a. F.U.C.K.
1b. OU812
3. Balance
4. 5150

Songs:
Judgement Day
Dreams
Source Of Infection
Top Of The World
Runaround
AFU
Feelin'
Poundcake
5150
Aftershock
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Post by: WebRaider on May 18, 2015, 04:16:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 18, 2015, 01:37:07 PM
While I don't consider myself a huge Van Hagar guy, it was still Van Halan and I saw them many times back in the day. I remember some summer shows they did at Great Woods, where it was so freaking hot, they were fantastic shows. Obviously Michael Anthony and Sammy had great chemistry. Such fun times.

Anyway, album wise, I did not care for 5150 AT ALL when it came out. And the tour was just OK. Seemed like a band still feeling themselves out. Though VH won the war, DLR won that first battle. By a mile.
I really love OU812. Seemed to be so much looser and had a lot more personality than 5150.

1a. F.U.C.K.
1b. OU812
3. Balance
4. 5150

Songs:
Judgement Day
Dreams
Source Of Infection
Top Of The World
Runaround
AFU
Feelin'
Poundcake
5150
Aftershock

As much as I love and prefer DLR VH to ~~Roth~~ Hagar era I LOVED 5150 and hated OU812 at the time of their release...
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Post by: TAC on May 18, 2015, 04:26:22 PM: Quote from: WebRaider on May 18, 2015, 04:16:45 PM

As much as I love and prefer DLR VH to Roth era I LOVED 5150 and hated OU812 at the time of their release...
I prefer the DLR VH to the Roth era too! :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 18, 2015, 04:35:54 PM: I did not hack WebRaider's acount.
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Post by: TAC on May 18, 2015, 04:38:29 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on May 18, 2015, 04:35:54 PM
I did not hack WebRaider's acount.
:lol
I didn't go there because I figured it'd be too easy.
:rollin
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 18, 2015, 04:39:02 PM: :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on May 18, 2015, 05:10:25 PM: Webraider might have meant that he prefers the [DLR VH to Roth (solo)] material.

In any case - not in your league king. ;D
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Post by: WebRaider on May 18, 2015, 05:17:52 PM: Oooops that's how much I prefer DLR VH to Hagar era... but yeah the point which was totally missed with the error lol... is the same.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 18, 2015, 07:08:34 PM: Title track from the new Helloween..............okay but just another song IMO.

https://youtu.be/M7D7ynntNbg
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 18, 2015, 07:21:51 PM: Solid Helloween like usual from the band
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Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2015, 05:52:51 AM: I think that's a really good track actually. It's safe, but it's strong. Sounds a lot like Power though in the verses.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2015, 07:08:54 AM: Today's shirt - I never managed to find any decent shirts from OU812 to FUCK and so any Hagar era stuff I have is generally related to 5150 or Balance.

(https://s4.postimg.org/belrz6lwd/Picture_16.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2015, 08:00:55 PM: You can hear an album teaser of George Lynch's upcoming double album Shadow Train which is effectively a bluesy rock soundtrack to a doco he's done about the plight of American Indians (Shadow Nation).

https://soundcloud.com/rat-pak-records

I had heard of this a number of times over the years but it seemed to be in constant delay - will now get a release in July.

I'm sure I won't like everything on this but some of the songs sound strong.
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Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2015, 06:19:35 AM: It sounds okay. I'll probably check it out.
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Post by: TAC on May 20, 2015, 09:45:50 AM: Brent, thought I'd post my torn ticket stub from the 1984 tour. It was cool as it had the VH logo on it.

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/VH%20Ticket%20Crop_zpslwfqubat.jpeg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/VH%20Ticket%20Crop_zpslwfqubat.jpeg.html)
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Post by: TAC on May 20, 2015, 10:05:25 AM: Also:

August 22, 1986
Providence Civic Center
5150 Tour

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/VH%205150%201_zpsqi1rgfkg.jpeg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/VH%205150%201_zpsqi1rgfkg.jpeg.html)
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Post by: bosk1 on May 20, 2015, 10:43:59 AM: It has been a LONG time since I listened to, or even owned, a Van Halen album. But the Hagar years were my favorite. I loved VH I when it was new. The other albums never really did much for me until 1984, which was just too hard to not like. But 5150 just completely rocked my world. LOVED that album to death. Easily my favorite VH album of all time. But it has been so long that I can hardly remember how a lot of the songs go, so I can't really do a very good job at doing a ranking. I will say that Summer Nights is perhaps my all-time favorite Sammy-era song, or at least close to it.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 20, 2015, 09:21:01 PM: Some cool stuff there guys ............I have a 1984 ticket in one of those frames I posted a while back but it was a "Comp" and didn't have the logo on it. Nowhere near as nice as yours - although mine is whole . I bet a lot of people wish they could go back and tell those dudes on the gate to leave their ticket alone :lol

I would've loved to see that 5150 tour live - Live Without A Net remains my most watched music video by a mile - although I'm not big on live DVDs in general.

And with that in mind - "it is now.............officially...................5150 time!!" ;D

(https://s28.postimg.org/aqdd54xul/Picture_17.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 20, 2015, 09:57:24 PM: HELLO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABY! *WHHHHHHHAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 21, 2015, 02:44:16 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 20, 2015, 09:57:24 PM
HELLO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABY! *WHHHHHHHAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*

This is one of the coolest ways to open an album (although the song itself isn't that good)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 21, 2015, 02:50:34 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 21, 2015, 02:44:16 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 20, 2015, 09:57:24 PM
HELLO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABY! *WHHHHHHHAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*

This is one of the coolest ways to open an album (although the song itself isn't that good)

Aw, it's a great song! Not one of the very best on the album, but it's a good mid tempo rocker to kick it off.
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2015, 05:14:05 AM: I honestly don't get love for for 5150. It is so toned down from the raucous sound of classic VH. Overly radio friendly.
And in the picture I posted you can see the peach colored pants and white top that Eddie had on. Just looked wimpy.
Contrasted with Eat 'Em And Smile, and THAT tour. Now that was more like a VH show that VH was.
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Post by: WebRaider on May 21, 2015, 12:39:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2015, 05:14:05 AM
I honestly don't get love for for 5150. It is so toned down from the raucous sound of classic VH. Overly radio friendly.
And in the picture I posted you can see the peach colored pants and white top that Eddie had on. Just looked wimpy.
Contrasted with Eat 'Em And Smile, and THAT tour. Now that was more like a VH show that VH was.

I was a big fan of both 5150 and Eat'em and Smile. I'll agree that DLR carried more of the classic VH with him in that album/tour but both were really good albums IMO.

I was more disappointed in Van Hagar's dip from 5150 to OU812 which is why I tried pointing out earlier in the thread where you had it listed so highly. That is confusing to me. Yeah 5150 had some Hagar radio friendly hits but OU812 took that to a lower low and IMO 5150's non-radio hits were also better.

Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 21, 2015, 02:44:16 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 20, 2015, 09:57:24 PM
HELLO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABY! *WHHHHHHHAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*

This is one of the coolest ways to open an album (although the song itself isn't that good)

Man I LOVE that song! Ed just has fun all over that tune. Crank that shit.... It's Good Enough ta.....ah! :hat
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Post by: bosk1 on May 21, 2015, 01:13:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2015, 05:14:05 AM
I honestly don't get love for for 5150. It is so toned down from the raucous sound of classic VH. Overly radio friendly.
And in the picture I posted you can see the peach colored pants and white top that Eddie had on. Just looked wimpy.
Contrasted with Eat 'Em And Smile, and THAT tour. Now that was more like a VH show that VH was.

I strongly disagree. I never cared for DLR individually. Not one bit. I liked VHI and 1984 despite Dave. So when he went off on his own, I had zero interest. And I don't think anything he did in his solo band was special in any way, shape, or form.
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2015, 05:36:40 PM: It's a personal preference I guess. I just find way more personality on OU812, and much more enjoyable. It's much looser and much less, um, professional I guess. 5150 feels like corporate rock to me.
I was excited when it came out, but when I ever heard Why Can't This Be Love..I mean, what a piece of garbage. How do we do from House Of Pain and Girl Gone Bad to THAT??
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 06:08:57 PM: I like most of their stuff up to and including OU812 and from there it's a bit more patchy. You won't get any traction with some on those GGB and HoP references Tim as many seem to consider them filler - I love them myself , just saying.

I can also see where you're coming from in terms of 5150 seeming pissweak - knowing how much growing up with stuff affects me. I came along in VH terms in the years 84-86 when there was already a pop element to it and so some of the wimpier songs (hopefully hefdaddy doesn't see this) didn't grate for me like they did for you. But I totally get why they would've for a fan who had been with them from earlier on.

I also agree with you on the feel on OU812 , especially on songs like AFU, Sucker etc.........BUT (and you knew there was one) I don't get the love for Source of Infection. There's some cool guitar on it , but even with my positive VH bias I struggle to get past Sammy's pathetic attempt at lyrics. And lyrics don't ordinarily affect me much at all.

But this.......

Hey!
Alright!
Whoo! How 'bout 'cha now,
Come on
Oh yeah!
Dig it!
That's right.
Is everybody ready?
Let's go!
Up and down, around and 'round
In and out
Crank it, blow out
Ouch
Help me
Flip on over

I had switched off even before the chorus and flipped on out. ;D
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2015, 06:12:24 PM: Thanks for understanding, mate! :)

Yes, God some of the Sammy lyrics are just brutal. Spanked? Yikes.

Source of Infection is a ripper. But hey, I love Loss Of Control too!

GGB and Hop filler? Jump and Panama are the filler on that album.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 06:14:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2015, 06:12:24 PM
Thanks for understanding, mate! :)

Yes, God some of the Sammy lyrics are just brutal. Spanked? Yikes.

Source of Infection is a ripper. But hey, I love Loss Of Control too!

GGB and Hop filler? Jump and Panama are the filler on that album.

Spanked is a ripper

Just kidding :neverusethis:
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2015, 06:20:11 PM: That's funny, but it illustrates one of my main issues with Van Hagar. What were they? A pop band? A hard rocking ripping band? Or a lame preteen humor band?

I get DLR era Van Halen had some of the same issues, but it just seemed more genuine to me.
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Post by: WebRaider on May 21, 2015, 06:26:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
It's a personal preference I guess. I just find way more personality on OU812, and much more enjoyable. It's much looser and much less, um, professional I guess. 5150 feels like corporate rock to me.
I was excited when it came out, but when I ever heard Why Can't This Be Love..I mean, what a piece of garbage. How do we do from House Of Pain and Girl Gone Bad to THAT??

I understand where you're coming from on the feeling from DLR VH to Hagar VH and I agree to some extent but... Did you listen to "When It's Love" off of OU812??? (or "Feels So Good" or "Finish What Ya Started" come back raw guitar please!!!) How is that any better in the frame of reference you're giving? I "like" all the albums but I don't see how anyone can enjoy so much OU812 and disparage 5150 to that extent. I do get that its a personal thing so all good. :)
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 06:29:26 PM: I think Van Hagar's core stuff was good time rock like Summer Nights /Runaround with more commercial tinges for singles (like most bands).

I always felt that much of the humourous side of Van Hagar was an attempt to retain some of what made classic VH great - sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't and felt forced. In that regard I agree that it sounded much more natural when DLR was the man.

I probably expressed it better in my VH1 Top 50 write up but the humour of Van Halen was always a big attraction for me - even just stuff like all the "Ow", "Whoo" , laughs going on in the background of some of their songs. Nobody else did it like that and even after listening for years I sometimes picked up new things going on. Add that to the awesome attitude, songs and guitar playing and that's why they're my numero uno.

I really like Van Hagar - just not quite as much as I love classic VH.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 21, 2015, 06:35:19 PM: Quote from: WebRaider on May 21, 2015, 06:26:21 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
It's a personal preference I guess. I just find way more personality on OU812, and much more enjoyable. It's much looser and much less, um, professional I guess. 5150 feels like corporate rock to me.
I was excited when it came out, but when I ever heard Why Can't This Be Love..I mean, what a piece of garbage. How do we do from House Of Pain and Girl Gone Bad to THAT??

I understand where you're coming from on the feeling from DLR VH to Hagar VH and I agree to some extent but... Did you listen to "When It's Love" off of OU812??? (or "Feels So Good" or "Finish What Ya Started" come back raw guitar please!!!) How is that any better in the frame of reference you're giving? I "like" all the albums but I don't see how anyone can enjoy so much OU812 and disparage 5150 to that extent. I do get that its a personal thing so all good. :)

When it's Love Blows. So let's get that out of the way. :lol
Not in love with Feels So Good, but I do like Finish What You Started and Message In A Bottle. To me, there's a certain genuiness that is evident on OU812. A certain relaxfulness. I felt a lot of 5150 was a rock album by numbers. I just think OU812 breathes a little more.

I'm an extremely casual Van Hagar fan, and was back in the day. Though I saw them maybe a half dozen times, and were great shows, I was never that deep into them.

Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 06:29:26 PM

I always felt that much of the humourous side of Van Hagar was an attempt to retain some of what made classic VH great - sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't and felt forced. In that regard I agree that it sounded much more natural when DLR was the man.

I probably expressed it better in my VH1 Top 50 write up but the humour of Van Halen was always a big attraction for me - even just stuff like all the "Ow", "Whoo" , laughs going on in the background of some of their songs. Nobody else did it like that and even after listening for years I sometimes picked up new things going on. Add that to the awesome attitude, songs and guitar playing and that's why they're my numero uno.

I agree.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 21, 2015, 06:40:58 PM: Van Hagar was great. Man, those VH shows we saw in the 90s were so good. I know many have an attachment to the original lineup, and that lineup did put out some great tunes, but the Hagar years just seem a little better. Balance is so underrated.
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2015, 06:44:54 PM: Balance is an outlier to the other three albums I feel. It's feels a lot more serious. A good album, definitely.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 21, 2015, 06:45:34 PM: That tour was great, too. They busted out the song 5150 on it. :metal
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2015, 06:47:26 PM: Quote from: KevShmev on May 21, 2015, 06:45:34 PM
That tour was great, too. They busted out the song 5150 on it. :metal
I didn't go to that tour. I guessed I moved on from them by that point.

And I listed 5150 in my Top 10 Han Hagar songs, so cool.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 06:48:20 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2015, 06:44:54 PM
Balance is an outlier to the other three albums I feel. It's feels a lot more serious. .

Yep..........WHAM, BAM, Amsterdam. Hot damn :lol

But yeah , some of the more serious tracks have the cool , dark vibe of HUmans Being or even Fair Warning. The JAP bonus track (unusual for VH) made my top 10 - Crossing Over. Weird song but I grew to really like it.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 21, 2015, 06:50:44 PM: Pleasure Dome might still very well my favorite VH song. Just magnificent. :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 06:51:32 PM: Quote from: KevShmev on May 21, 2015, 06:50:44 PM
Pleasure Dome might still very well my favorite VH song. Just magnificent. :metal

Made my Top 10 too :tup
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 08:39:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2015, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on May 21, 2015, 06:45:34 PM
That tour was great, too. They busted out the song 5150 on it. :metal
I didn't go to that tour. I guessed I moved on from them by that point.

And I listed 5150 in my Top 10 Han Hagar songs, so cool.

If were to list favourite solos by EVH (and allow live versions) the reworked solo for 5150 on Live Without A Net would be right up there. Awesome.
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Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2015, 08:55:44 PM: I'm feeling pretty left out of this thread atm. :lol

I'm a very very casual VH fan, and I couldn't even tell you what albums I actually own. I prefer the Sammy stuff though. Might go through and see what albums I own and revisit them and post my thoughts.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 21, 2015, 10:39:54 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 06:48:20 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2015, 06:44:54 PM
Balance is an outlier to the other three albums I feel. It's feels a lot more serious. .

Yep..........WHAM, BAM, Amsterdam. Hot damn :lol

:lol Man, you want to talk about bad lyrics. The one song on Balance that could have been great ruined by unlistenable lyrics.

The lyrics on Source of Infection were playful and silly. It's not like DLR era was high art in terms of lyrics either. But it's rock, so that's how it should be! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 10:48:00 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 21, 2015, 10:39:54 PM
:lol Man, you want to talk about bad lyrics. The one song on Balance that could have been great ruined by unlistenable lyrics.

The lyrics on Source of Infection were playful and silly. It's not like DLR era was high art in terms of lyrics either. But it's rock, so that's how it should be! :metal

Like I said above (aside from fitting the "vibe" of a song) lyrics play about 1% (if that) in my enjoyment of a song unless they're just awesome or are bad enough to irritate me and Sammy has a habit of doing that occasionally :D

In terms of Roth , I would rate him a very under rated lyricist. Not so much in terms of early Van Halen but some of his solo stuff and especially on A Little Ain't Enough and A Different Kind of Truth , I think plenty of the lyrics are not only humourous but very clever.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 21, 2015, 11:19:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 10:48:00 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 21, 2015, 10:39:54 PM
:lol Man, you want to talk about bad lyrics. The one song on Balance that could have been great ruined by unlistenable lyrics.

The lyrics on Source of Infection were playful and silly. It's not like DLR era was high art in terms of lyrics either. But it's rock, so that's how it should be! :metal

Like I said above (aside from fitting the "vibe" of a song) lyrics play about 1% (if that) in my enjoyment of a song unless they're just awesome or are bad enough to irritate me and Sammy has a habit of doing that occasionally :D

In terms of Roth , I would rate him a very under rated lyricist. Not so much in terms of early Van Halen but some of his solo stuff and especially on A Little Ain't Enoguh and A Different Kind of Truth , I think plenty of the lyrics are not only humourous but very clever.

I mostly feel the same about lyrics, it's mostly the subject matter that ruins that song for me, rather than the quality of the lyrics themselves.

Roth does write some clever lyrics, although some of them are also really ridiculous, especially on ADKOT. But it's rock silly, so I actually love it.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 22, 2015, 12:38:56 AM: I don't have a problem if a song is radio friendly (whatever that means in the end) if the song is good. I think the Hagar stuff was more melodic and therefore maybe more radio friendly, because Hagar actually can sing melodies instead of just belting them out, and Hagar had much more experience in song-writing because of his solo career when he joined VH.

I also have no problem with songs like Feels So Good and Finish What You Started, the latter is just an example for the variety of the band. I mean they did songs like Big Bad Bill and others with DLR which aren't exactly hard rockin'. Why Can't This Be Love is a top ten song for me, so no complaint from my side. When It's Love and Can't Stop Loving You are cheesy bubble-gum songs I could do without.

Lyrics don't bother me as long as they are not very extremely exceptionally totally bad. Source Of Infection is just not a good song musicwise and therefore a better set of lyrics wouldn't have saved it.

I still can't and won't say which incarnation of the band is better because I can't. Both eras are outstinding and with Eddie's guitar playing on top they make for one of my absolute favorite bands.

PS: Girls Gone Bad is filler :D

PPS: Even VH3 isn't as bad as people say.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 22, 2015, 12:45:38 AM: VH3 is every bit as bad as people say. No redeeming qualities at all.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 22, 2015, 12:48:12 AM: Well there is the fat guy stopping a cannonball with his stomach on the cover, if that doesn't count, I don't know.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 22, 2015, 12:49:39 AM: :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 22, 2015, 02:54:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 21, 2015, 08:55:44 PM
I'm feeling pretty left out of this thread atm. :lol

Don't worry Kade only a few days until Dio..............................oh hang on . Blob and Kwyjibo have just reminded me that I omitted VH 3 and so next week will be Van Cherone week - top 10 songs :biggrin:

The best thing about VH3 is that I have one of those Ltd Ed. tins signed by the band and Mikey wrote "Brent Rocks!" on it. :hat
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 22, 2015, 03:49:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 22, 2015, 02:54:16 AM

and so next week will be Van Cherone week - top 10 songs :biggrin:

Are we gonna rank the album as well?

All humor aside, I really think that there are some interesting songs on the album, it's certainly not on par with Roth or Hagar albums, but it isn't a total trainwreck.
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2015, 06:33:16 AM: I remember a vido clip from that Cherone album and it was alright from what I remember.

Not a fan of Gary, his tone just doesn't work for me that well. Sounds out of tune a lot to me.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 22, 2015, 06:56:36 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 22, 2015, 02:54:16 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 21, 2015, 08:55:44 PM
I'm feeling pretty left out of this thread atm. :lol

Don't worry Kade only a few days until Dio..............................oh hang on . Blob and Kwyjibo have just reminded me that I omitted VH 3 and so next week will be Van Cherone week - top 10 songs :biggrin:

:lol I couldn't even make an unranked top 12 favourite Cherone era songs, if you know what I mean. :neverusethis:
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Post by: bosk1 on May 22, 2015, 08:40:28 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
5150 feels like corporate rock to me.
I was excited when it came out, but when I ever heard Why Can't This Be Love..I mean, what a piece of garbage. How do we do from House Of Pain and Girl Gone Bad to THAT??

Okay, granted. But how is that not a logical progression from 1984? Take Jump, for example. I'm not slagging it because it's a decent song. But I wouldn't really put it beyond "decent." Except that it is pretty catchy. Why Can't This Be Love is a much better written song that Jump, IMO. It takes where Eddie was going with Jump and just does it better.

All in all, I don't care for Van Halen much these days, and I haven't for quite some time. But 5150 was then, and still remains, my favorite album from them.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 22, 2015, 09:40:01 AM: Fans of Malmsteen style might be interested in this metallish release from Melodic Rock Records

The sample below is good but doesn't sound anything special to me - it does feature Mark Boals , his weave and Macro Minnemann so I'll be keeping an ear peeled.

https://youtu.be/3fL8W7XqhWo

Sorry no shirt today - sick as a dog with flu and spent most of the day in bed. It might surprise you but I don't have red, white and black striped PJs. :)
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Post by: bosk1 on May 22, 2015, 09:42:34 AM: No shirt, no service. Sorry. That's the rule.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 22, 2015, 09:49:44 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on May 22, 2015, 09:42:34 AM
No shirt, no service. Sorry. That's the rule.

:lol I don't seriously expect that anyone's hanging out for my shirt pics - just a bit of fun that adds to some discussion/memories every now and then. And at our ages anything that jogs the memory is good I reckon.

I'll do a double dose of Balance stuff tomorrow and then some VH3 on Sunday to get everyone in the mood for another band
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Post by: KevShmev on May 22, 2015, 03:16:51 PM: The Cherone album is good. Plenty of redeeming values on it. That riff in Ballot of the Bullet alone is beastly. :metal Once is one of my favorite songs of any VH era, and Dirty Water Dog is particularly very good as well. I can see why many hate it - it had a new singer AND was too experimental - but on merit alone, instead of comparing it to previous VH records, it is a good record. Certainly better than the mediocrity they released with Roth a few years ago.
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Post by: TAC on May 22, 2015, 03:32:58 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 22, 2015, 02:54:16 AM
only a few days until Dio...............
:metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2015, 04:00:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 22, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 22, 2015, 02:54:16 AM
only a few days until Dio...............
:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 22, 2015, 04:08:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 22, 2015, 09:40:01 AM
Fans of Malmsteen style might be interested in this metallish release from Melodic Rock Records

The sample below is good but doesn't sound anything special to me - it does feature Mark Boals , his weave and Macro Minnemann so I'll be keeping an ear peeled.

https://youtu.be/3fL8W7XqhWo

Sorry no shirt today - sick as a dog with flu and spent most of the day in bed. It might surprise you but I don't have red, white and black striped PJs. :)

I thought that was ok. I have the last album cage Of Infinity, and that was really good. Played it as my workout music tonight (new year resolution still going strong!). Guitarist really wants to be Yngwie but he can write a good song.
Hope you feel better soon mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 22, 2015, 04:44:30 PM: Just pre-ordered the new Armored Saint and Helloween on Amazon. Both should be in my mailbox when I get home from work on June 2!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2015, 05:21:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 22, 2015, 04:44:30 PM
Just pre-ordered the new Armored Saint and Helloween on Amazon. Both should be in my mailbox when I get home from work on June 2!

I'm ordering those two together as well! Looking forward to both
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 23, 2015, 05:10:17 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 22, 2015, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 22, 2015, 09:40:01 AM
Fans of Malmsteen style might be interested in this metallish release from Melodic Rock Records

The sample below is good but doesn't sound anything special to me - it does feature Mark Boals , his weave and Macro Minnemann so I'll be keeping an ear peeled.

https://youtu.be/3fL8W7XqhWo

Sorry no shirt today - sick as a dog with flu and spent most of the day in bed. It might surprise you but I don't have red, white and black striped PJs. :)

I thought that was ok. I have the last album cage Of Infinity, and that was really good. Played it as my workout music tonight (new year resolution still going strong!). Guitarist really wants to be Yngwie but he can write a good song.
Hope you feel better soon mate.

Thanks Paul. I have Cage of Infinity but , if my ratings are indicative of how I would view it now , I thought it finished strong but didn't like anything much in the first half.

Quote from: KevShmev on May 22, 2015, 03:16:51 PM
The Cherone album is good. Plenty of redeeming values on it. That riff in Ballot of the Bullet alone is beastly. :metal Once is one of my favorite songs of any VH era, and Dirty Water Dog is particularly very good as well. I can see why many hate it - it had a new singer AND was too experimental - but on merit alone, instead of comparing it to previous VH records, it is a good record. Certainly better than the mediocrity they released with Roth a few years ago.

I don't mind Ballot Or The Bullet but listening to it now the production is woeful - not in the way most modern production is but it totally lacks beef. Once is pretty good too and I think Cherone sounded better when he wasn't belting it out trying to be Sammy (probably not his choice). He has always sounded better doing a soft vocal or talky/funky rock vocal as per Extreme.

Dirty Water Dog is pretty cool but by the time I heard that it was the third time for me. The exact same riff was on a 5150 reject called I Want Some Action (86) and then Ed gifted it to Lukather for his track Twist The Knife in 89. (on which Ed played bass)

As far as VH 3 being better than ADKOT......we'll agree to disagree :)

Today's fashion is a Balance double whammy - Euro tour shirt and (rather daggy) roadies jacket from the Balance tour. Having light issues in here tonight so it's rather dark. Those who know their VH trivia would know that the kid on the see-saw (minus the extra head/torso on the left) is reportedly Ed's son Wolfie.

(https://s27.postimg.org/5z28gfwar/Picture_18.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 23, 2015, 05:45:58 AM: Cool didn't know that VH trivia
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 23, 2015, 05:56:59 AM: So Wolfie's featured on two VH albums then? :neverusethis: I also didn't know that bit of trivia.

Quote from: bl5150 on May 23, 2015, 05:10:17 AM
As far as VH 3 being better than ADKOT......we'll agree to disagree :)

I think the vast majority would disagree on that one. ADKOT was very well received, unlike VH3.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: KevShmev on May 23, 2015, 07:35:07 AM: bl5150, I totally agree about Cherone's vocals. They sound like EVH told him, "Try to sing like Sammy," instead of utilizing all of Cherone's strengths as a vocalist.

My honest feeling is that a lot of people were excited about VH doing a new album with Roth (if you can call an album filled with mostly songs from 30 years ago that were never more than demos new :lol) that they wanted to like the album, and they were going to like it no matter what. You want muddy production, listen to that mess. Now, it does have several songs that I like quite a bit - Big River and The Trouble with Never - but most of the songs are just generic dribble. At least VH3 saw them trying some new things instead of trying to sound exactly like they did x-number of years ago.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2015, 07:37:48 AM: I've always liked VHIII. I think is lacked a real producer to reign Eddie in.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: KevShmev on May 23, 2015, 07:39:56 AM: Can you reign in someone who doesn't want to be? :lol Seriously, I think at some point EVH's head go so big that he was never going to get a producer who challenged him or didn't let him do exactly what he wanted to.

Speaking of VH, did you all see their performance on Jimmy Kimmel recently? My God, what an embarrassment. I am not sure what is worse: Roth's vocals or that stupid ass, creepy grin he always has on his face.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 23, 2015, 07:45:36 AM: Quote from: KevShmev on May 23, 2015, 07:35:07 AM
bl5150, I totally agree about Cherone's vocals. They sound like EVH told him, "Try to sing like Sammy," instead of utilizing all of Cherone's strengths as a vocalist.

My honest feeling is that a lot of people were excited about VH doing a new album with Roth (if you can call an album filled with mostly songs from 30 years ago that were never more than demos new :lol) that they wanted to like the album, and they were going to like it no matter what. You want muddy production, listen to that mess. Now, it does have several songs that I like quite a bit - Big River and The Trouble with Never - but most of the songs are just generic dribble. At least VH3 saw them trying some new things instead of trying to sound exactly like they did x-number of years ago.

Most people here (and other places around the net) were expecting it to be bad based on a weak first single and bad choice of song samples, but the album changed most people's minds on its own merits, so I don't see any evidence that there was a bias in favour of wanting to like the album. I see no basis for that other than you disagreeing with the consensus.

And even though several songs were based on old demos, it still brought new stuff to the table too that turned out well (like Honeybabysweetiedoll, which seems to be well liked here).

And what's the merit in doing something different when the result sounds like total shit?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2015, 07:48:38 AM: Quote from: KevShmev on May 23, 2015, 07:39:56 AM
Can you reign in someone who doesn't want to be? :lol Seriously, I think at some point EVH's head go so big that he was never going to get a producer who challenged him or didn't let him do exactly what he wanted to.

Speaking of VH, did you all see their performance on Jimmy Kimmel recently? My God, what an embarrassment. I am not sure what is worse: Roth's vocals or that stupid ass, creepy grin he always has on his face.

:lol

Very true and that is why some musicians don't get it and led to Eddie killing his own band. How much did VH lose as fans after the band seemingly disappearing from this earth?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: KevShmev on May 23, 2015, 07:53:19 AM: That evidence would require me getting inside peoples' heads and finding out something they would never say out loud. Granted, it is just my theory, but that's my story and I am sticking to it. :biggrin: :lol

There is plenty of merit in trying something different; it shows the willingness to try something different instead of being lazy and trying to churn out something predictable. I get that most hated the results of VH3, while I think it is a solid record, so it's easy to say it was a failed experiment.

Honestly, the best thing about the Cherone era was the tour. He had no problem singing any song from any era, so that tour actually saw VH playing songs from their entire catalogue, instead of ignoring a 10-year span (which they do with Roth) or mostly a 7-year span (which they did with Hagar for the most part, outside of a few songs).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 23, 2015, 07:57:41 AM: From what little I've seen of them live with Cherone, he did a pretty good job (and I don't like Cherone at all). That was on DLR stuff though, and I don't have much faith he could convincingly pull off Hagar's best stuff.

It is a shame that both of VH's major vocalists have largely ignored the other's era. At least Hagar played the biggest hits, but I don't think he suited them as well as Roth, and Roth wouldn't have had a chance of singing a lot of the Hagar vocals even if he wanted to. It's even worse that they currently ignore that the Hagar era even exists, so those albums continue to get overlooked for much needed remasters.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2015, 08:13:55 AM: I saw that tour and he helped breath life into that band live. I was an awesome show.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 23, 2015, 08:15:31 AM: I agree with a lot of the above sentiments...........VH 3 was close enough to an Eddie solo album with Cherone being pushed to sing how Ed wanted him to sing. Mike Post was a weird choice for producer who obviously had little to no positive impact - maybe that's why he was chosen :lol.

I agree that the tour was good and that was the one time I met the band. Ed seemed in a really great place and that was reflected in his playing live which was the best in ages. The only guy in the band who seemed aloof and up himself a bit was Cherone. And yes.......it was great to hear them rip through stuff like I'm The One and even Mikey doing Somebody Get Me a Doctor was awesome. Gary's stage moves/presence didn't suit VH at all though I felt.

As far as the reworking of old demos - yes , that was the case for half of ADKOT and it seems to get a lot of discussion but most of them were significantly reworked , including totally different lyrics in some cases.

What doesn't get the same amount of discussion is that tracks on all of the DLR era albums can be traced back to old demos ..............even some of the Sammy albums. I have a live show somewhere from 76 or something where they're doing Take Your Whiskey Home , House of Pain (very different) , Voodoo Queen (which became Mean St) etc....... Hell - the riff for Top Of The World (from F.U.C.K.) is lifted from the fadeout to Jump. And as mentioned earlier Dirty Water Dog was from a 5150 reject that became a Lukather song before becoming a VH song again :lol Van Halen have always done that and I have no issue with it. Nobody would know if the demos weren't so widely circulated.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 23, 2015, 05:32:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 23, 2015, 05:10:17 AM
Today's fashion is a Balance double whammy -

(https://s27.postimg.org/5z28gfwar/Picture_18.jpg)
A sucker in a 2 piece! ;D

Quote from: KevShmev on May 23, 2015, 07:35:07 AM
My honest feeling is that a lot of people were excited about VH doing a new album with Roth (if you can call an album filled with mostly songs from 30 years ago that were never more than demos new :lol) that they wanted to like the album, and they were going to like it no matter what. You want muddy production, listen to that mess. Now, it does have several songs that I like quite a bit - Big River and The Trouble with Never - but most of the songs are just generic dribble.
I disagree. I was as skeptical as anyone. In fact I wanted to dislike it. I thought that Tattoo sucked but my wife bought me the CD as a present, and I was shocked at how good it was. Probably 4 or 5 songs too long, but it's 7 or 8 songs deep.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: KevShmev on May 23, 2015, 08:26:28 PM: Oddly enough, my opinion on this sort of changed...today. :eek :lol

I decided to listen to it on my travels today - I redid my VH mp3 CD for the car right after I got the mp3s of this CD and just threw the whole thing on there since VH doesn't have so much material to where there wasn't room for all of it - and actually enjoyed most of it. I still think there are quite a few songs that are missing a vocal hook, but they have enough energy and rockingness to where they still didn't sound bad or anything. Granted, it's not classic VH is swimming in melodic glory or anything, but many of their songs have like one or two lines that are enough of a hook to where the rest of the song basically being one long rocking guitar solo works. Source of Infection from OU812 is a good example of this, since that song is basically one giant guitar solo, but the "Love is the source..of infection...woahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!" part is enough of a hook to make it work.

Back to ADKoT, I can say I like it a lot more than I did at first, or even 12 hours ago. :rollin :rollin

The back half of the album is much better than the front half. The best songs here are The Trouble with Never, Outta Space, Big River and Beats Workin'.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 23, 2015, 11:23:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 23, 2015, 05:32:05 PM

A sucker in a 2 piece! ;D

:rollin Think yourself lucky I didn't reply with Kip Winger in a one piece :omg:

To finish off VH week(s)......I present in traditional DTF style .......................Van Halen IV :biggrin:

(https://s15.postimg.org/c45qh9eej/Picture_19.jpg)

And yes even the shirts for VH 3 were shit :lol

I actually made up a really nice frame with some of the signed stuff from that tour (they would only sign VH 3 stuff ::) ) but can't find it at the minute. And that 1976-77 VH show I mentioned before also had Loss Of Control and In A Simple Rhyme on it :omg:

Time to brush up on my Dio ratings........
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on May 24, 2015, 01:37:32 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 23, 2015, 11:23:06 PM
Time to brush up on my Dio ratings........

Bring it on! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2015, 07:44:29 AM: They would only sign VH3 stuff from that tour?? Bunch of jerk stores

Bring on the might Dio!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 24, 2015, 08:21:17 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 24, 2015, 07:44:29 AM
They would only sign VH3 stuff from that tour?? Bunch of jerk stores

Yeah.........and it wasn't as if anything was being sold at the place I met them (a Hard Rock Cafe ), so I think it was just a case of using that rule to promote album sales in general rather than a store thing. I wish I could find the photo of me and EVH :-\ There was no cameras allowed but Ed and I were having a good chat and so the Hard Rock photo guy snapped us and then of course I drove him nuts in the days following until he did me a copy :metal

I'm doing some Dio listening as my (now old) rankings have 3 of the top 5 Dio albums ranked exactly the same :-\ And my top 15 Dio songs are very clear , but not so much the top 10.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2015, 02:53:31 PM: Are you doing just Dio solo? Or is Rainbow/Sabbath included?

Never could get into Elf though; I did try, but not my thing
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 24, 2015, 07:33:33 PM: Just the band Dio for now - the Top 10's (and albums) are hard enough without not using clear boundaries where I can :lol If some want to I could do a top 10 at a later stage for anything Ronnie was on.

Also, when we get to some of these other bands with large discogs and multiple vocalists/eras then I may request some input on whether we want to divide them into eras like we did with Van Halen
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2015, 08:31:21 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 24, 2015, 07:33:33 PM
Just the band Dio for now - the Top 10's (and albums) are hard enough without not using clear boundaries where I can :lol If some want to I could do a top 10 at a later stage for anything Ronnie was on.

Also, when we get to some of these other bands with large discogs and multiple vocalists/eras then I may request some input on whether we want to divide them into eras like we did with Van Halen

That might work, good idea.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 12:22:15 AM: Welcome to Dio Week :metal It'a appropriate that we do this now with the 5th anniversary of his passing only recently ......I can't believe it's 5 years :omg:

We'll be ranking albums (and songs contained on) the albums branded as DIO - as per Van Halen we'll keep it to studio albums rather than "best of" style live albums. In the case of Dio, Intermission would be near the top for me if included as it's a great collection of live songs and "We Rock" in particular is one I prefer as a live version as the production on the studio version is woeful - I can hardly hear the guitars . It's even better on Evil or Divine with Aldrich.

(https://www.metalinsider.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Dio1983.jpg)

As I mentioned above I had some old Dio ratings that were way too uniform to allow a proper ranking and so I've had a bit of a "Dio Day' today listening to the top half dozen albums. I've never taken any real notice of Angry Machines or Master Of The Moon and therefore I am going to take the Top 5 option when it comes to ranking albums. Those of you who are all over the whole discography - feel free to rank the whole lot.

I have always loved Dio as a singer but when it came time for my Top 50 the Dio band just missed out as I never quite found the consistent perfection on a single Dio album that I did on the best platters from the likes of Queensryche, Ozzy , Judas Priest etc... Having said that the best Dio songs are all time faves.

We've had the discussion before about the Dio era that I grew up with (Lock Up The Wolves and the tail end of Sacred Heart ) - on listening to LUTW today I have downgraded it a bit . The best songs on it remain some of my all time best (and it's the most prevalent in my Top 10) but the filler is pretty damn ordinary. Holy Diver is the same for me - awesome best tracks but a few I don't care for at all which makes it hard to rate an album right up there. To me the most consistently good are Sacred Heart , Dream Evil and The Last In Line and they received big upgrades after today's listen. Their relative lack of filler along with a couple of classics each has them at the top of the pile for me. Magica is something I've never really listened to properly but it surprised me with it's consistent high quality - just missing some standouts.

There are supposedly demos of Jake E Lee with Dio in 1982 too which I would love to hear - he was Ronnie's original choice as axe man but it didn't work out. It's said that Don't Talk To Strangers may be a Jake "write" which I can believe listening to the riff.

I would also note that if we were to call "Stars" a Dio song with a million guests (which it basically is) then it would make my Top 10 songs.

TOP 5 ALBUMS

1. Sacred Heart
2. The Last In Line
3. Dream Evil
4. Lock Up The Wolves
5. Holy Diver/Magica (TIE)

All the Dio albums in my Top 5 are rated between 80 and 90% , so it was all pretty close.

TOP 10 SONGS - chronological order

Stand Up And Shout
Don't Talk To Strangers
We Rock
Sacred Heart
Another Lie
Sunset Superman
Walk On Water
Wild One
Hey Angel
Why Are They Watching Me

Two of my lower rated albums (LUTW and Holy Diver) make up more than half the Top 10 between them but the album ratings are as much about consistency as anything.

And today's shirt............my only Dio shirt but a good'un. It has the chorus to The Last In Line on the back.

(https://s2.postimg.org/c54uo9be1/Picture_20.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 25, 2015, 12:27:57 AM: 1. Holy Diver
2. The Last in Line
3. Killing the Dragon
4. Lock Up The Wolves
5. I don't have a 5th

In no particular order because I'm lazy and because ranking things is kinda trivial when you have to think that hard about it.

Stand Up and Shout
Holy Diver
Gypsy
Don't Talk to Strangers
Rainbow in the Dark
The Last in Line
I Speed at Night
We Rock
Born on the Sun
Killing the Dragon

honorable mentions-
One Night in the City
Wild One
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 25, 2015, 04:51:59 AM: Last In Line
Sacred Heart
Dream Evil
Holy Diver

None of the others get any airplay chez Lowdz.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 04:55:11 AM: Wow - for some reason I just assumed that I would be the only one with any album above Holy Diver let alone all three of those. The final standings may not be the lay down misere I was thinking :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 25, 2015, 05:01:04 AM: Anyone who doesn't rank Holy Diver at least top 2 is doing it wrong. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 25, 2015, 05:26:26 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 25, 2015, 05:01:04 AM
Anyone who doesn't rank Holy Diver at least top 2 is doing it wrong. :biggrin:

Well I Have to say I loved HD when it came out, and its still a great album . I just scored it on which albums I'm more likely to reach for now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2015, 05:37:45 AM: 1. Sacred Heart
2. Magica
3. Holy Diver
4. The Last in Line
5. Killing the Dragon

Always loved Magica, never understood the hate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2015, 05:40:43 AM: Sorry to take this off topic, but I had to share. This popped up in my subscriptions and I have no idea who this band are, but this is killer, listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa84JoowXuY
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 05:53:33 AM: Borealis are pretty good Kade - I have their two previous albums and both have a couple of really good tracks. The more recent one Fall From Grace is the more consistent I think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2015, 05:55:52 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 05:53:33 AM
Borealis are pretty good Kade - I have their two previous albums and both have a couple of really good tracks. The more recent one Fall From Grace is the more consistent I think.

Fuck yeah man, I'll check them out.

Also, loved seeing Sacred Heart top your list too, easily the best IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on May 25, 2015, 09:35:13 AM: The Top 3 was easy, but I had to think about the last two spots for a few minutes. If I want to listen to Dio solo stuff, in almost every case I pick one of these Top 3 albums.

1. Holy Diver
2. The Last in Line
3. Sacred Heart
4. Lock Up the Wolves
5. Dream Evil

Stand Up and Shout
Holy Diver
Don't Talk to Strangers
Rainbow in the Dark
Shame on the Night
We Rock
The Last in Line
Sacred Heart
Another Lie
Wild One

As you can see, I really like Holy Diver - it makes half of my Top 10 songs list.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 25, 2015, 11:09:27 AM: 1) Holy Diver 2) Last in Line 3) Sacred Heart 4) Dream Evil 5) LUTW

1) Don't Talk to Strangers 2) Stand Up & Shout 3) We Rock 4) Hungry for Heaven 5) Sacred Heart 6) Holy Diver 7) Last in Line 8) Breathless 9) caught in the middle 10) mystery

Everything from the first two albums are perfect and all could be in this list
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 25, 2015, 12:19:48 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 25, 2015, 05:55:52 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 05:53:33 AM
Borealis are pretty good Kade - I have their two previous albums and both have a couple of really good tracks. The more recent one Fall From Grace is the more consistent I think.

Fuck yeah man, I'll check them out.

Also, loved seeing Sacred Heart top your list too, easily the best IMO.

I agree, fwiw. Decent band.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 25, 2015, 12:21:15 PM: Yeah Dio!!

Album Rankings:
Holy Diver
Last In Line
Sacred Heart
Dream Evil
Lock Up The Wolves
Strange Highways
Majica
Killing The Dragon
Master Of The Moon
Angry Machines

Songs:
Don't Talk To Strangers
Shame On The Night
The Last In Line
Holy Diver
Sacred Heart
Straight Through The Heart
Rock n Roll Children
All The Fools Sailed Away
Jesus Mary And The Holy Ghost
Losing My Insanity
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 25, 2015, 12:22:55 PM: Lots of love for "Don't Talk to Strangers"

What an awesome tune!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 25, 2015, 12:23:53 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 25, 2015, 12:22:55 PM
Lots of love for "Don't Talk to Strangers"

What an awesome tune!!
Hell freaking yes!
:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 25, 2015, 01:19:06 PM: Lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 25, 2015, 01:42:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 25, 2015, 12:23:53 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 25, 2015, 12:22:55 PM
Lots of love for "Don't Talk to Strangers"

What an awesome tune!!
Hell freaking yes!
:metal

If I could be arsed to rate the songs it would be no 1.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: WebRaider on May 25, 2015, 02:19:54 PM: RJD!!!! :metal

Just had to get that out of the way.... Now if we'd have been ranking his stuff with Sabbath this would have been much more difficult than it already was for me.

Albums:

Holy Diver
Last In Line
Strange Highways
Sacred Heart
Dream Evil/LUTW/Angry Machines

Songs in no particular order as usual:

Don't Talk To Strangers
Shame On The Night
The Last In Line
Holy Diver
Sacred Heart
Straight Through The Heart
Strange Highways
Stand Up And Shout
We Rock
Rainbow In The Dark
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Post by: TAC on May 25, 2015, 03:07:33 PM: Great to see the love for Shame On The Night. I usually am belting that out at the top of my lungs, and posing like Dio while I'm at it! :lol
Seriously, that is one of my all time favorite songs.

I hope we do a Dio-Sabbath and Dio- Rainbow discussion/rankings.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 07:30:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 25, 2015, 03:07:33 PM

I hope we do a Dio-Sabbath and Dio- Rainbow discussion/rankings.

Well that's an answer to my question about whether we want to break up the eras of some of these other bands by vocalist.

While I'm here Tim - you might enjoy this full set , pro shot/sound of Temple of Rock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMY8RbvMgg4

We'll definitely get to Sabbath and Rainbow.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 09:22:50 PM: If you end up getting the new Pyramaze Kade then let me know what you think. It's getting amazing reviews but I'm not really sold on it.

It's a hard album for me to describe as it ventures into sounds that aren't my forte , so apologies if I stuff up the references. First off it sounds nothing like old Pyramaze. It's got a distinct modern metal sound , mostly due to the vocals which sound like they'd be at home on a heavy Stone Sour ?? album and the music has a dark vibe akin to Anubis Gate or Evergrey (but not quite as good). In fact I'm pretty sure the vocal melodies were done by a guy from Anubis Gate.

After one listen (and I can't imagine there will be too many more aside from the track Hope Springs Eternal ) I would give it a solid but unspectacular 77% There's nothing really bad on it but also nothing much that reaches out and grabs me , so I was bored with it by the end. And I'll admit that the "modern" vibe annoys me unless it's done particularly well like the last Evergrey.

I also just had a listen to the Crystal Ball album that was mentioned a while back - solid hard rock/metal record - sorta Accept-lite. Around 80% for that one.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 26, 2015, 01:44:16 AM: Dio was without doubt one of the best metal singers, but I never got around to own any of his albums, the songs I heard were always nice but somehow lacked something that made me want to hear more. Maybe your rankings will change that and I will give it another try.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 26, 2015, 04:32:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 09:22:50 PM
If you end up getting the new Pyramaze Kade then let me know what you think. It's getting amazing reviews but I'm not really sold on it.

It's a hard album for me to describe as it ventures into sounds that aren't my forte , so apologies if I stuff up the references. First off it sounds nothing like old Pyramaze. It's got a distinct modern metal sound , mostly due to the vocals which sound like they'd be at home on a heavy Stone Sour ?? album and the music has a dark vibe akin to Anubis Gate or Evergrey (but not quite as good). In fact I'm pretty sure the vocal melodies were done by a guy from Anubis Gate.

After one listen (and I can't imagine there will be too many more aside from the track Hope Springs Eternal ) I would give it a solid but unspectacular 77% There's nothing really bad on it but also nothing much that reaches out and grabs me , so I was bored with it by the end. And I'll admit that the "modern" vibe annoys me unless it's done particularly well like the last Evergrey.

I also just had a listen to the Crystal Ball album that was mentioned a while back - solid hard rock/metal record - sorta Accept-lite. Around 80% for that one.

Glad it s not just me. Sounded very samey and modern metal. Why do all metal guitars s ound the sme these days? I know, I'm getting old. Gone are the days you could tell the band by the sound of the guitars.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2015, 04:44:28 AM: What can I say Paul? - I agree totally (surprise,surprise). And funnily enough I'm old too. :tick:
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Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2015, 05:39:11 AM: I haven't purchased any cd's for a while so I ordered this one with the Cain's Offering and Ten but the company I use is usually pretty slow to deliver. I may listen to it before hand though. Disappointing on both your thoughts, considering the couple of songs we've heard so far, still looking forward to it.

Listening to Borealis, World of Silence. Nothing special but solid metal, I like it.
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2015, 05:00:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 07:30:07 PM

While I'm here Tim - you might enjoy this full set , pro shot/sound of Temple of Rock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMY8RbvMgg4
Cool. Thank you for that! Will check out. I see that Flotsam was broadcast too. Nice! :tup
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Post by: TAC on May 27, 2015, 09:54:33 AM: Back to Dio..

What pains me is that over the second half of his solo career, he put out such mediocre material. And while he had some very good rhythm sections, I think he missed the boat with his guitarists.
I still can't tell what Craig Goldie and Doug Aldrich brought to the band. Seriously.
Seems that Dio just wanted "yes men" for his guitarists.

Say what you want about the Traci G albums, but at least he had a definitive style. Whether it was likeable is up for debate.
And what happened with Rowan Robertson? He played with tons of personality on LUTW, and shamefully, that's the last decent album guitarwise that he put out IMO. And considering that was 1990, that's a long time without something decent.

I can definitely get through Killing The Dragon but I'd have to severely lower my Dio standards to call it decent.

Just saying..
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Post by: Evermind on May 27, 2015, 09:58:02 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 27, 2015, 09:54:33 AM
Seems that Dio just wanted "yes men" for his guitarists.

Should've probably asked Steve Howe then. :neverusethis:

But I agree, I don't really listen to anything past Lock Up the Wolves. Maybe sometimes to Magica, but totally not often.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 27, 2015, 10:21:56 AM: Goldy's a decent guitarist but yeah...............LUTW was , outside of Ozzy and a couple of others , one of my first traditional metal albums . I would've been about 16 yo ,really obsessed with the guitar and I was drooling after listening to the solo on Walk On Water. I wish the album wasn't half filled with Sabbathy plodders and had more like that and Wild One but even half an album of that sort of stuff had me excited and then he vanished and I was a bit ???

I would've loved to see another album with Rowan - technically the best guitarist Dio had IMO @ around 17 years old. He brought it live too , although there's very little footage.

here's a couple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7byK0GOBohI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRv6S9bD6PY

Looks like that gig in Germany was pro shot - would like to have that.

They didn't play Walk On Water live it seems .
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Post by: TAC on May 27, 2015, 01:06:21 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 27, 2015, 10:21:56 AM
I wish the album wasn't half filled with Sabbathy plodders and had more like that and Wild One but even half an album of that sort of stuff had me excited
That was one thing that hit me right away about LUTW. This album is so damned slow. I was a little disappointed by that when it came out, but oddly, the title track and Evil on Queen Street have both aged really well.

Great footage too!
I have the Lakeland show on DVD boot. Saw that tour in Providence with Yngwie opening.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 27, 2015, 03:27:26 PM: I agree that Dios second half discography is lesser in quality. I would consider it all to be "good", but not much more overall
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Post by: wolfking on May 27, 2015, 03:55:14 PM: All of his later stuff is worth listening too, but is definitely a step down compared to his earlier stuff. Although Magica and KTD were in my top 5.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 27, 2015, 03:56:53 PM: Nothing much after Dream Evil did much for me.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 27, 2015, 05:23:13 PM: A couple more tidbits from the Rowan era

In Studio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FREVxTVXlU

Warming Up With Some Malmsteen , Vai, Wylde etc.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szZECxDZAhE
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Post by: TAC on May 27, 2015, 06:29:25 PM: Apparently he's in a band called DC4. Some performances on Youtube.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 27, 2015, 06:36:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 27, 2015, 06:29:25 PM
Apparently he's in a band called DC4. Some performances on Youtube.

Yeah - I have a couple of DC4 albums but can't remember much about them. Jeff Duncan (Armored Saint) was also involved there I believe. Also Violet's Demise - a project he did with Oni Logan from Lynch Mob , which I found disappointing. I did lots of digging back in the day for other stuff from him. He even worked for Billy Ray Cyrus - things got bad there for a while :) He seems to be getting some belated kudos these days though.

Unfortunately he (like me ,in terms of my playing) came along at just the wrong time. Nobody has ever explained exactly why he left Dio - he has always had nothing but praise for RJD so everything was amicable. It seems that Ronnie doing Dehumanizer stuffed things up and Rowan had to look elsewhere and that was it.
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Post by: TAC on May 27, 2015, 06:55:10 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 27, 2015, 06:36:53 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 27, 2015, 06:29:25 PM
Apparently he's in a band called DC4. Some performances on Youtube.

Yeah - I have a couple of DC4 albums but can't remember much about them. Jeff Duncan (Armored Saint) was also involved there I believe.
THAT'S where I heard of them. Yes.

Some ripping going on here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmLeGDvq3vs
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Post by: wolfking on May 27, 2015, 07:48:04 PM: Rowan did some great work on LUTW. I'll check those links later when I'm home.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 27, 2015, 11:23:25 PM: With apologies to Dio Week I just remembered that I omitted to provide a little summary on the Van Hagar results.

Albums:

1. F.U.C.K.
2. 5150
3. OU812
4. Balance

In terms of songs Dreams was the clear winner. In equal second for number of mentions we have:

5150
Judgement Day
Humans Being
Poundcake
Runaround
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 28, 2015, 12:27:05 AM: I'm surprised F.U.C.K came first overall (not because I don't like it or anything, I just didn't notice people ranking it that highly).

In terms of songs, I'm surprised 5150 and Judgement Day did that well, because I consider them both very average. All good on the rest though. :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 28, 2015, 05:27:24 AM: When is the Gary Cherone ranking?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 28, 2015, 05:29:33 AM: ;D In the Van Cherone rankings VH3 came last and the favourite song was He Man Woman Hater .
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 28, 2015, 05:30:44 AM: Haha
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 28, 2015, 05:57:59 AM: :clap:
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Post by: bl5150 on May 28, 2015, 11:52:40 PM: I think we have all the Dio rankings we're going to get . I have tried to collate the results for the album ranking as best as possible but when we're not ranking all albums and different numbers of albums it's not possible to be too scientific about it.

As an example if I add up the ranking numbers (lowest=best) then Holy Diver, Last In Line and Sacred Heart tie but Sacred Heart wasn't mentioned in one , so that goes to third obviously. Last In Line was the most consistent , coming second in 6 of 8 lists but only came first once. Holy Diver came first 5 times but had a 3rd , 4th and 5th.

Dream Evil and Lock Up The Wolves were very close too.

Here's how I see the results:

Albums:

1) Holy Diver
2) Last In Line
3) Sacred Heart
4) Dream Evil
5) Lock Up The Wolves

Songs:

The most popular song with 5 votes was Don't Talk To Strangers. Next , with 4 votes each were:

The Last In Line
Holy Diver
Sacred Heart
Stand Up and Shout
We Rock

Others with more than one mention (all 2) :

Wild One
Another Lie
Rainbow In The Dark
Straight Through The Heart
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 29, 2015, 12:04:38 AM: next up...............week of the 'Ryche .

Anyone who attempts to rank all the shite from HITNF to Dedicated To Cabaret will get a prize - your choice of 2 items of stage worn gear from Geoff in this pic......and not the hat :metal

(https://cdn3.cdnme.se/1717142/6-3/tateundies_51d6b577e087c36ffd2c2ef1.jpg)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 29, 2015, 01:23:01 AM: Ok, here's my try:

1. Operation: Mindcrime
2. Empire
3. Rage For Order
4. The Warning
5. Promised Land
6. Queensryche (the Todd LaTorre thing)
7. Queensryche (EP)
8. Q2K
9. Hear In The Now Frontier
10. American Soldier
11. Operation: Mindcrime II
12. Tribe

I haven't listened to Take Cover, Dedicated To Chaos and Tate's FU, nor do I intend to do so in the near and far future.

Maybe we should divide the rankings into the good, the bad and the ugly?

Song ranking maybe later, ranking individual songs is always harder for me than ranking whole albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2015, 03:20:45 AM: Albums:

O:M
Warning
Promised Land
EP
RFO
Empire
S/T
Tribe
OM2
HITNF
Q2K
American Soldier
DTC (probably the biggest piece of shit I've ever listened to)

SONGS:

Queen of the Reich
Whisper
NM156
I Don't Believe in Love
Eyes of a Stranger
En Force
Prophecy
Promised Land
Damaged
Walk in the Shadows
Silent Lucidity
Spreading the Disease
Lady Wore Black
Road to Madness
Take Hold of the Flame
Screaming in Digital
Empire

Love everything from the first six and the latest s/t. Everything else is hit and miss. Queensryche is a strange situation. Almost flawless for the first six and then a major drop. It can't be all Tates fault, but it really is mind boggling what happened to the band for almost two decades. But I can always forgive them based on the first six and the rejuvenation of the band. Looking forward to the new one.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 29, 2015, 07:29:17 AM: I like your enthusiasm guys -looks like JJ wins the prize :lol Unless you tell me otherwise JJ I'll take your Top 10 songs as the first 10 in your list.

Off to listen to the new Armored Saint :xbones

EDIT.........good album. Solid metal with no duds but also not much I expect to consider "classic" in the future. Favourite tracks were the title track and the last one called "Up Yours" :metal :lol

It may well improve with more listens but at the moment I'd give it around 83%

Helloween now..................opening track has a bit of a Painkiller vibe
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 29, 2015, 07:42:25 AM: I'm probably away for the weekend so here's my song ranking for now:

1. Revolution Calling
2. I Don't Believe In Love
3. NM 156
4. Silent Lucidity
5. Eyes Of A Stranger
6. Jet City Woman
7. Roads To Madness
8. Lady Jane
9. Walk In The Shadows
10. Where Dreams Go To Die

Queensryche for me is an absolute album band, meaning I rarely listen to single songs, but almost always to whole albums. It didn't even occur to me to create a mix for my MP3-Player, which I have done for almost every other band I like.
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Post by: bosk1 on May 29, 2015, 08:47:24 AM: Ah, this will be fun. Queensryche was my favorite band from 1990 to 1999. I LOVE the first 6 albums listed. I like the next 4, but they are each flawed in some way. The last 2... :( This is going to be a long post...

1. Empire - So many good tracks. One and Only is the only one I don't particularly care for, and I don't mind hearing that one. There is a good reason why this album burned up the charts. It was nice to see good music actually get some mainstream recognition.

2. Promised Land - I think Promised Land is actually a "better" album than Empire. For the longest time, I had it ranked #1. But I just find myself listening to Empire more nowadays if I reach for an older Queensryche album. But great collection of songs. And the tour was just stunning. It took this album awhile to click, but when it did, I was sold.

3. Hear In the Now Frontier - I know I am in the minority, but I love this album. To me, Queensryche had been a band that was able up through this album to find a trend they liked at any given point in popular music and blend it with their style without outright copying that style. This album is a great example. It is not grunge. But it is a good reflection of grunge in the same way the EP and Warning were a good reflection of NWOBHM without being NWOBHM. You can hear the influence, but it is still something different. This album took the more simplistic, stripped down, dirty grunge style and made it Queensryche. And the album has so many great, memorable songs because of that.

4. Mindcrime - This album was really my gateway into the band. It took me awhile to get it, but as with other albums, once it finally clicked, it hit home in a big way and really helped shape my taste in music and take it in a different direction. I used to rank this album a lot higher. I probably still would if the concept/story hadn't worn a little thin on me.

5. Queensryche - My only trepidation about ranking this album so high is that the album as a whole (as well as many of the individual songs) is just too short. But what a stellar return to form. Despite its flaws, this was a VERY solid effort. If a few of the songs were a bit more fleshed out, and there were a couple of more songs, this would be top 3.

6. Rage - Fantastic album. It seems a shame to rank it so low. It's just that the ones before it are so good.

7. Warning - This is where ranking starts to get tricky. This next grouping all have some really good songs, and some songs that fall flat. Here, the band were still finding their sound. There is also a lot of same-yness for me. But I give this album a slight bump over the others in this group simply because of some of the classic songs that came from it, like Roads To Madness and NM156.

8. American Soldier - This album is...challenging for me. Jason Slater wrote some great songs and had really captured the Queensryche sound, IMO. I also generally REALLY like the concept. But there are a few flaws that drag it down. First and foremost is Tate's singing. He sounds awful in too many places. This is the first album where I felt like his performance was truly the weakest link. If not for that, I could overlook the other flaws and would rank this album a LOT higher. Second, the flow of the album is not good at the end, and the album really loses steam because of it. The Voice is a pretty good album closer. But it does not have quite the big, epic feeling of a lot of their closers. It tries, but just doesn't quite get there. And having the two ballads back to back right before it is a problem. The album just seems to die with a whimper despite closing with some pretty good songs. Third, Home Again. I love the concept of this song. And the lyrics are truly tear jerking. I even like the concept of having a child sing the child's part. The problem is that Tate's daughter is just not a good singer, notwithstanding that she was just a kid when it was recorded. Fourth, while the concept of the album is a really cool idea, the very subtle slant to it is, unfortunately, very glaring to me. I remember having a short conversation with Tate during the Take Cover tour when he was working on the concept for this album where I talked about my military service. The things he said just seemed off at the time, but did not register as that big a deal. But over time, after letting this album soak in, and piecing together other things he has said, it just leaves me feeling like Geoff Tate is utterly clueless about military life and what service people go through. And given how many he supposedly interviewed as part of this album project, that is very troubling to me and casts an unfortunate shadow over this album.

9. Tribe - Oh man, what could have been. There are some truly stellar songs on this album. But there are also some of the band's worst (not including D2C). This album really gave a glimpse into what could have been had Tate not driven DeGarmo away. The problem is that this album is just so inconsistent.

10. Mindcrime II - Man, as bad an idea as it was to even try to do a sequel to Mindcrime, this album really had potential. I think it starts off great, actually, and has some great songs. Slater had not quite really gotten Queensryche's sound, but he wasn't far off. The songs and story start off pretty strong through the first half of the album. It has great hooks. Nice heaviness at times. Great callbacks to the original. An interesting story that really feels logical from the standpoint of looking at where the characters are almost 20 years later. But things start to become a mess at The Chase, both in terms of spotty song quality and the story going off the rails. This album would not have been quite up there with the classics. But with relatively few changes it could be a LOT better. There is a lot I like about the album. But as a whole, it fails.

11. Q2K - Oh well. They were my favorite band. At least I have the history, right? DT releasing SFAM and then Queensryche following that with this meant that they were now out of the top spot for good. But at least we got 2 good songs (The Right Side of My Mind and Liquid Sky) and a few decent ones. And my wife and I had a fun, memorable trip flying into Seattle for the recording of Live Evolution and then road tripping across western Canada. So...thanks for the memories, Queensryche.

EDIT: I do have to say, it was cool that they did a reissue that included some bonus tracks. Until There Was You is not very good. And while Howl is better than a lot of songs on the album, I seem to be in the minority in terms of not thinking it is that great either. But still cool that they released this material.

12. Dedicated 2 Chaos - There is nothing likeable about this album. I waited until I found a copy in the used bin just so I could have it for completeness. I listened to it once and have no desire to repeat the exercise.

Unranked:

EP - Some solid songs. I just don't rank it because it seems unfair to rank a 4 song debut EP against full albums. I immediately really liked Queen of the Reich and The Lady Wore Black. Blinded took awhile. It wasn't until I heard the live version from Tokyo that made me really take notice of what a cool song this is. Nightrider never really clicked. If we are counting The Prophesy, which was included on the re-release, that is a solid track as well.

Take Cover - I can't really rank a covers album with their originals. A few decent efforts. Lots of bombs. And many of the bombs simply fail because of Tate. Too bad. Fun tour though.

I do not include FU because, despite having "Queensryche" on the album sleeve, it is NOT a Queensryche album. It just isn't. It has no original members of the band performing on it, and the band was still an active, viable entity at the time. It is a Geoff Tate album that was intentionally mislabeled to cause confusion among the fanbase and capitalize on the established band name.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2015, 11:17:00 AM: Nothing wrong with Hear in the Now Frontier at all, it's a solid straight up rock album. But to me it's such a down grade from the first six and it's hard to comprehend it's the same band. Some good tunes on it.

Some solid tunes in Q2K as well; especially Right Side of My Mind. That song is what later Queensryche should be all about
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Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2015, 01:45:29 PM: Queensryche wewre my favourite band until Images & Words appeared.

1. O:M
2. Rage For Order
3. Empire
4. Warning
5=Promised Land
5=QR

O:M II
HITNF - wow to say I was disappointed was an understatement. Little was I to know at the time that this would be as good as it got for many years

The rest is complete shite.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 29, 2015, 02:45:11 PM: HITNF was a huge letdown, I tried and tried to like it, thinking there must be something I was missing. How could a band release such an album? Now I've come to the conclusion that it's just barely mediocre. There a two tracks I like, the rest is not really bad (that came later) but just bland and forgettable.

Q2K for me was a step in the right direction, I really liked it and I still do, it doesn't come close to the great albums, but was solid. But I think I'm almost alone with that point of view. Falling Down, Sacred Ground, One Life, When The Rain Comes, Right Side Of My Mind are all good to great tracks.

Tribe for me showed that Chris DeGarmo couldn't turn things around. Hearing about his involvement, the expectations were high, but QR fell short again. As shown in my ranking Tribe is the worst of them (not counting D2C). Slater then did a better job in writing tunes that sound at least little bit like QR and at least a little bit interesting. Tribe just angers me because of what could have been. :angry: But again not many share my feelings towards Tribe.

On a related note: A friend of mine got the QR Logo as a tattoo on her right shoulder after Promised Land and just before HITNF came out. At first we all envied her because of it and because it really was a work of art. Bit it quickly moved to the top of the list of things she wished she hadn't done. I think it's now removed for some time :biggrin:
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Post by: bosk1 on May 29, 2015, 03:19:44 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 29, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
Tribe for me showed that Chris DeGarmo couldn't turn things around. Hearing about his involvement, the expectations were high, but QR fell short again. As shown in my ranking Tribe is the worst of them (not counting D2C). Slater then did a better job in writing tunes that sound at least little bit like QR and at least a little bit interesting. Tribe just angers me because of what could have been. :angry: But again not many share my feelings towards Tribe.

I don't completely disagree about Tribe as a whole, even though I rank it higher than you do. But as far as DeGarmo not being able to help, keep in mind that his involvement was limited. He only has writing credits on 5 of the songs on the album (Open, Desert Dance, Falling Behind, The Art of Life, and Doing Fine), three of which I consider to be the best on the album, and NONE of those songs were finished when he departed. To me, it is obvious that his musical influence could still have contributed to something really good, had he been emotionally invested and able to stay and finish things (i.e., if the band dynamic weren't already so toxic that he left before the songs were even done). The strength of those songs, plus the two that were NOT included (Justified and what eventually became Hostage), show that he still had a lot to say musically that was pretty amazing.

Honestly, if you give me an album with those 7 songs, with the opportunity for Chris to have polished them a bit more by working them to completion, and remove Blood and Losing Myself, that's a pretty solid album in my opinion, notwithstanding still having a few weak tracks. Not among their best, but a solid album nonetheless.
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Post by: TAC on May 29, 2015, 03:32:19 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 29, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
HITNF was a huge letdown, I tried and tried to like it, thinking there must be something I was missing. How could a band release such an album? Now I've come to the conclusion that it's just barely mediocre. There a two tracks I like, the rest is not really bad (that came later) but just bland and forgettable.
I could appreciate what they tried to do with HITNF. But at the end of the day, it still comes down to the songs, and these were just not up to snuff. I do like a couple of tracks, but my favorite tracks off of it would still be considered weak tracks on their better album.

I rank the QR albums like this:
Warning/ Mindcrime tie
Rage/Empire tie
EP

Everything else

I did find American Soldier decent. At least it felt like a focused and committed project.

Fave QR tracks:
Roads To Madness
NM 15
Deliverance
Suite Sister Mary
Queen Of The Ryche
Speak
Anybody Listening?
Revelution Calling
Surgical Strike
No Sanctuary

I would also add, that while I am not a Promised Land guy at all, that tour was one of the best shows I've ever seen, and I had never really considered them a strong live band, save for Scott Rockenfield.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2015, 04:26:22 PM: OM
Empire
Warning/EP
Tribe
Promised Land
S/T
Rage For Order
American Soldier
HITNF
Q2K
Mindcrime 2
DTC
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2015, 04:28:18 PM: New Virgin Steele - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-vXNwOOGI

Absolutely nothing new here, but it's actually pretty solid metal. Production doesn't sound too bad either. Will pick this up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 29, 2015, 04:31:02 PM: I haven't followed Virgin Steele, and THAT will not prompt me to do so. :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2015, 04:32:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 29, 2015, 04:31:02 PM
I haven't followed Virgin Steele, and THAT will not prompt me to do so. :)

They are definitely an acquired taste.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2015, 04:33:44 PM: Check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXW_2ECC67I

:rollin

Never was a big Rhapsody fan, but they were okay. This is a fucking joke lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 29, 2015, 04:45:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 29, 2015, 04:31:02 PM
I haven't followed ~~Virgin Steele~~ Rhapsody, and THAT will not prompt me to do so. :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2015, 05:02:58 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2015, 09:19:30 PM: That Rhapsody is not good.

As far as the new Virgin Steele goes, that's basically Virgin Steele by the numbers. Decent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 29, 2015, 10:21:58 PM: Rhapsody are awesome, bu this song was random scifi sounding words thrown together.
I hope the future science concept doesn't affect the music too much, because this song lacks their typical medieval fantasy sound. But they've got an orchestra, so it can't be all bad. And the production sounds top notch as usual, which already puts it ahead.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on May 30, 2015, 03:47:30 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 29, 2015, 10:21:58 PM
this song was random scifi sounding words thrown together.

Absolutely this. :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 30, 2015, 05:02:22 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 29, 2015, 10:21:58 PM
Rhapsody are awesome, bu this song was random scifi sounding words thrown together.
I hope the future science concept doesn't affect the music too much, because this song lacks their typical medieval fantasy sound. But they've got an orchestra, so it can't be all bad. And the production sounds top notch as usual, which already puts it ahead.

I thought Luca's sci-fi solo album Prophets Of The Last Eclipse was really good so I'm not too worried by the switch. The song reminds me of something in the chorus - not sure what yet.
I do enjoy his orchestral stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 30, 2015, 05:12:13 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 30, 2015, 05:02:22 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 29, 2015, 10:21:58 PM
Rhapsody are awesome, bu this song was random scifi sounding words thrown together.
I hope the future science concept doesn't affect the music too much, because this song lacks their typical medieval fantasy sound. But they've got an orchestra, so it can't be all bad. And the production sounds top notch as usual, which already puts it ahead.

I thought Luca's sci-fi solo album Prophets Of The Last Eclipse was really good so I'm not too worried by the switch. The song reminds me of something in the chorus - not sure what yet.
I do enjoy his orchestral stuff.

I've actually never heard his stuff outside of Rhapsody. He's been very consistent with Rhapsody though, and the last album was very good, so I'm still interested.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2015, 06:49:27 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 29, 2015, 04:31:02 PM
I haven't followed Virgin Steele, and THAT will not prompt me to do so. :)

I wouldn't call that track representative of their best by any means - in fact I haven't caught up with their most recent releases myself. Perhaps that's why I found it rather weird. Defeis' voice has totally changed and that falsetto at the start was fucking awful. The riff , basic as it is , is pretty cool but the chorus is underwhelming.

I'm not sure what to make of that.

Try this TAC (from 1988) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WILhJWgfz7M

If you don't like that (I do) then I wouldn't bother.

I got through one minute of the Rhapsody and CUT! From the comments below "What happens when Sheldon Cooper writes songs of power metal" :lol I can't say I've ever taken much notice of Rhapsody tbh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 30, 2015, 07:26:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 30, 2015, 06:49:27 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 29, 2015, 04:31:02 PM
I haven't followed Virgin Steele, and THAT will not prompt me to do so. :)

I wouldn't call that track representative of their best by any means - in fact I haven't caught up with their most recent releases myself. Perhaps that's why I found it rather weird. Defeis' voice has totally changed and that falsetto at the start was fucking awful. The riff , basic as it is , is pretty cool but the chorus is underwhelming.

I'm not sure what to make of that.

Try this TAC (from 1988) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WILhJWgfz7M

If you don't like that (I do) then I wouldn't bother.

I got through one minute of the Rhapsody and CUT! From the comments below "What happens when Sheldon Cooper writes songs of power metal" :lol I can't say I've ever taken much notice of Rhapsody tbh.

Better production than we're used to for VS but not a great song. And his falsetto has always been a bit of an acquired taste. His songs with Eric Adams singing and ManOwaR's production would be a great thing.

AndDawn of Victory is a great album Brent. Awesome riffage on that one, dodgy Italian pronunciations aside ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2015, 07:29:33 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 30, 2015, 07:26:31 AM

AndDawn of Victory is a great album Brent. Awesome riffage on that one, dodgy Italian pronunciations aside ;D

I just checked my collection and I have the two before that only - Legendary Tales and Symphony of Enchanted Lands - can't say I remember anything about them though. I'll check out Dawn of Victory Paul.
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 30, 2015, 07:34:32 AM: My turn with the Ryche.

Empire
OM
Warning/EP
HITNF
Promised Land
Rage For Order
Tribe
S/T
Q2K
American Soldier
Mindcrime 2
DTC
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 30, 2015, 02:42:24 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on May 29, 2015, 03:19:44 PM

Honestly, if you give me an album with those 7 songs, with the opportunity for Chris to have polished them a bit more by working them to completion, and remove Blood and Losing Myself, that's a pretty solid album in my opinion, notwithstanding still having a few weak tracks. Not among their best, but a solid album nonetheless.

Tribe could and should have been better, but there's to many "if"s that weren't fulfilled. Regarding Chris DeGarmo: Maybe he could have made it a better record if he had been involved till the end. On the other hand DeGarmo was the main songwriter on HITNF, so not everything he touches turns to gold. And his musical contributions since leaving QR are minimal at best. That raises the question if things would have been that much better if he was still with the band.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: WebRaider on May 30, 2015, 04:48:02 PM: My album rankings for Queensryche:

Promised Land
OM
Empire
EP/Warning
S/T
Tribe
Rage For Order
HITNF-Q2K (Tie)
American Soldier
Mindcrime 2
DTC

I like Tribe more than most. I think it was their last real shot to pull it together with Tate ruling the band and in the end it fell through and they went to crap completely afterwards *w/Tate* but there was some good material there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 30, 2015, 05:36:18 PM: You know, I feel like I have some pretty experienced ears, but I have no idea why people with just as experienced ears as I do love Promised Land. I absolutely do not get it. The love for Promised Land makes absolutely no sense to me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: WebRaider on May 30, 2015, 07:09:32 PM: Forgot to add QR song rankings! Will add ASAP.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 30, 2015, 09:17:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
You know, I feel like I have some pretty experienced ears, but I have no idea why people with just as experienced ears as I do love Promised Land. I absolutely do not get it. The love for Promised Land makes absolutely no sense to me.

Is there any songs on the album that you like? How about the title track and Damaged?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2015, 10:15:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 30, 2015, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
You know, I feel like I have some pretty experienced ears, but I have no idea why people with just as experienced ears as I do love Promised Land. I absolutely do not get it. The love for Promised Land makes absolutely no sense to me.

Is there any songs on the album that you like? How about the title track and Damaged?

I feel the same way as Tim about Promised Land - and I can't even get through the title track. Damaged and a few others are solid songs - there's perhaps one song on it that gives me the same feeling as the older albums(which will make my top 10) . I listened to it today to refresh the memory and , although I liked it a bit better than I remember , it's still not even in the same ballpark for me as the albums that came before it.
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Post by: WebRaider on May 30, 2015, 10:23:19 PM: We know that QR is at least one of the cornerstone bands of the "prog metal" genre. Given that, it seems some may prefer the earlier and more metal-ish material? I like it all to varying degrees but Promised Land does seem to have more of a "Prog" sound/feel to it and less of the metal aspect. Maybe that is what leaves some feeling disconnected? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2015, 10:34:54 PM: Quote from: WebRaider on May 30, 2015, 10:23:19 PM
We know that QR is at least one of the cornerstone bands of the "prog metal" genre. Given that, it seems some may prefer the earlier and more metal-ish material? I like it all to varying degrees but Promised Land does seem have more of a "Prog" sound/feel to it and less of the metal aspect. Maybe that is the disconnect? ;D

I am I and Webraider........you're Someone Else ;D

That's probably fair . Having said that I don't think that Promised Land is clearly more proggie style than Rage For Order but there's certainly a whole lot less "metal"and that is a big issue for me I suppose. I don't like the vast majority of "prog rock", "neo prog" etc...... so when it comes to prog for me it's "prog metal or forget it" for the most part. And even then there needs to be lots of melody and structure to go with the prog.

Having said that I certainly don't think Promised Land is a total dog - it gets a rating from me in the high 70's- it's just that I don't consider it a good Queensryche album. I tend to prefer some of the softer more melodic songs on Promised Land. Add the full band version of Someone Else and Real World and it might creep into the 80's

At least everyone agrees on Dedicated to Crap. :)

I need to have a refresher listen on the recent s/t album and then I'll get my thoughts up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2015, 01:04:38 AM: A few news tidbits (apologies if already noted):

- Stryper's newie "Fallen" due in October
- Saxon's newie "Battering Ram" out Sept/Oct
- crap audio but Skid Row doing STTG with Harnell.......I reckon they're looking/sounding pretty good. https://youtu.be/y7WEizWAo_w
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Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2015, 03:43:51 AM: Looking forward to the Stryper and Saxon. Saxon have been amazingly solid.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2015, 06:43:13 AM: (https://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2015/03/queensryche-geoff-tate.jpg?w=630)

OK........my thoughts on Queensryche. This band was an easy inclusion in my Top 5 when it came time for my DTF Top 50 of all time and arguably could've been a lot higher ,all depending on how you grade things. Looking back I have no issue with having Images and Words higher than Mindcrime on that list (slightly different degrees of perfection) ,however if I had not had the one album per band rule then Queensryche would've been more heavily represented in that list than Dream Theater. My top 10 DT songs are basically Images and Words and a couple of stragglers :lol

In fact I think I could say that , outside perhaps Ozzy Osbourne and the various incarnations of his band , I don't think any other genuine metal band has more songs that I really love than Queensryche - all achieved in 3 or 4 albums and that's why all the wasted time grates so much :-[. I also have a hard time thinking of any 3 album run that I like better than Rage For Order , Operation Mindcrime , Empire. They also take out the title for my favourite metal concept ever by some distance - Streets and The Crimson Idol being the other two big ones. So they're right up there in contention for my favourite metal band ever.

Unfortunately in that shocker of a year 1997 , 2 of my top 5 bands released Hear In The Now Frontier and Falling Into Infinity and Van Halen were also just about to poop out VH 3 ,all of which resulted in me needing bigger and bigger "swear jars" and the world demand for ouzo going crazy. HINTF confirmed well and truly the sense of foreboding that Promised Land had given me. My interest in new material from both Queensryche and DT never got back to anywhere near the old highs until the last few years. I've actually been surprised that most of you guys can rank the latter half of the Queensryche discography in so much detail. I was so pissed off by the way they went with HITNF onwards that ,aside from knowing the best track or two from each now , I really wouldn't have a clue how I would rank them and I have no desire to listen now and find out. HITNF was the last album of theirs that I bought on CD until Mindcrime II (seems like we treaded a similar path Paul) and then my poor sister , with the best of intentions, bought me that glorified beer coaster Dedicated To Cabaret for Christmas one year :censored

So here's my attempt at a ranking - just a top 5 for me.

Albums

1) Operation: Mindcrime
2) Rage for Order
2) Empire (TIE)
4) EP
5) The Warning

Aside from the recent s/t and Promised land (in that order) which are both decent , I'm happy enough with Paul's executive summary ;D

Quote from: Lowdz on May 29, 2015, 01:45:29 PM
The rest is complete shite.

Top 10 Songs

Queen Of The Reich
Walk In The Shadows
I Dream In Infrared
Whisper
Speak
I Don't Believe In Love
Breaking The Silence
Eyes Of A Stranger
Silent Lucidity
One More Time

Serious apologies to Empire, Surgical Strike and Take Hold of the Flame.
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Post by: TAC on May 31, 2015, 08:57:58 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 30, 2015, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
You know, I feel like I have some pretty experienced ears, but I have no idea why people with just as experienced ears as I do love Promised Land. I absolutely do not get it. The love for Promised Land makes absolutely no sense to me.

Is there any songs on the album that you like? How about the title track and Damaged?
Live Damaged and the title track is ok. Out Of Mind was awesome live, as it worked amazingly well on a hot summer night outdoors.

Quote from: WebRaider on May 30, 2015, 10:23:19 PM
We know that QR is at least one of the cornerstone bands of the "prog metal" genre. Given that, it seems some may prefer the earlier and more metal-ish material? I like it all to varying degrees but Promised Land does seem to have more of a "Prog" sound/feel to it and less of the metal aspect. Maybe that is what leaves some feeling disconnected? ;D

I've heard this argument before and I just don't find Promised Land all that progressive. I just find it weak.
Yes you are right though in at least that the lack if a metal side would alienate me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 31, 2015, 09:44:07 AM: I would imagine that HITNF got less the positive reviews upon its release, is that correct?

And the new Stryper and Saxon should be awesome!
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2015, 09:46:56 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 31, 2015, 09:44:07 AM
I would imagine that HITNF got less the positive reviews upon its release, is that correct?

I can only go by word of mouth ( I didn't read much in the way of reviews back then) but yes..........everyone in the scene that I knew hated it. Funnily enough Empire copped its fair share of bad reviews too as a bit of a "sell out album" ,as did Metallica's black album. If only people had known , they would've been praising them to high heaven :lol These days most fans of both bands have come around to those albums but at the time it wasn't like that - at least from what I was hearing back then.
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Post by: TAC on May 31, 2015, 11:21:47 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2015, 09:46:56 AM
Funnily enough Empire copped its fair share of bad reviews too as a bit of a "sell out album" ,as did Metallica's black album. If only people had known , they would've been praising them to high heaven :lol These days most fans of both bands have come around to those albums but at the time it wasn't like that - at least from what I was hearing back then.
It seemed like many bands released step down records that year. I remember hearing Empire for the first time and immediately though "uh oh". It was still a great album, but you could feel an underlying shift underneath it. Maybe it was a one off as QR's albums were always quite different, but I felt a shift underfoot, only to be realized when Promised Land came out.

Same for Metallica's Black Album. I remember thinking WTF was this? Total sellout! Little did I know that it would be the last decent Metallica album (I like DM!). I bought TBA and Helloween's Pink Bubbles on the same day in New Jersey and alternated each for the ride home to Massachusetts. Both bands completely let me down, though both have aged magnificently.

Lock Up The Wolves also didn't impress me upon its release either. So slow and plodding. And Gary Moore started playing the blues, after After The War, which was his best album in years.

And don't forget No Prayer For The Dying..

There were three bright spots for me that year were Painkiller, Rust In Peace, and Hey Stoopid. Oh, and Seasons In The Abyss. That's 4!
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 31, 2015, 01:22:40 PM: Funny, I though it was a killer move for both. I find bands that stay the course in their sound lose my interest. Hello AC/DC.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2015, 11:22:56 PM: It seems like there's some sort of dispute about to erupt in Leatherwolf land.........not that anyone probably cares :lol They recently toured and released a live album with Olivieri on vocals and now a different band with Wade Black on vocals has announced a new studio album coming ???
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 31, 2015, 11:37:00 PM: Street Ready is a great Leatherwolf album.

Not sure what the background is with two enemy Leatherwolf bands.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 01, 2015, 09:54:48 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 31, 2015, 11:37:00 PM
Street Ready is a great Leatherwolf album.

Not sure what the background is with two enemy Leatherwolf bands.

One great album. Not really worth the argument is it? :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2015, 07:28:35 AM: A little 'Ryche bump - here's the band last week live. Shitty fan recorded audio but gives a good idea of where they're at live....last song of the night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVoKFp-roso&feature=youtu.be

I found a few shirts around the place- very rare in these parts but perhaps not so much in the US.

First one - from the Mindcrime tour

(https://s14.postimg.org/o0d286w41/Picture_23.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2015, 07:54:43 AM: Also looks like Whitesnake are putting on a good show with their "Purple Tour" if you can tolerate Cov's average vocals. Tommy Aldridge at around 65 yo looks like he's had a few too many Red Bulls - pretty amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDRm5lc6XWg&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: bosk1 on June 02, 2015, 08:27:46 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 02, 2015, 07:28:35 AM
A little 'Ryche bump - here's the band last week live. Shitty fan recorded audio but gives a good idea of where they're at live....last song of the night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVoKFp-roso&feature=youtu.be

Wow, aside from missing the "big note" in the beginning, Todd sounds fantastic.
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Post by: TAC on June 02, 2015, 09:46:34 AM: That may have been the show that went up on Dime recently. Although the setlist was excellent, I passed. Actually if they had more than ONE song from the last album I might have grabbed it.

Nice shirt Brent. Had one very similar to when I saw them open for Def Leppard in 1988. I never wore it and shipped it out to old friend Samsara a few years ago for his collection.
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Post by: Deathless on June 02, 2015, 10:19:53 AM: Interesting. Skid Row has been getting blasted online since Harnell took over. A lot of people don't seem to think it's a good fit, and he's been struggling at some of the shows.

I don't know. He needs some time to adjust to the songs and the band. Todd La Torre was the same way when he took over in QR a few years back.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2015, 08:13:09 PM: Most of what I've seen online (including my own opinion) has been positive towards how Harnell is sounding in Skid Row. I have a feeling though that his voice is going to take a beating singing those old songs live - he's spent much of his time in recent years doing quiet acoustic gigs and keeping in top shape. Will be interesting to see how he goes.

I think I posted a link not so long ago to him singing Slave To The Grind live and it was better than I had expected and probably better than Baz could do. He doesn't have the same crazy stage presence , but then they haven't had that in ages anyway.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 03, 2015, 11:29:29 AM: I'm only a casual fan of TNT, but I've heard the hits. It does seem that the Skid Row songs may take some time for him to figure out his sound/voice for them.

I doubt he will sing anything from the Johnny era.

I am interested to hear what the studio material will sound like with Tony.
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Post by: TAC on June 03, 2015, 01:34:47 PM: What is really jumping out at me listening to the new Armored Saint is how good the guitar playing is. With apologies to the great Dave Prichard's performance on Raising Fear, Win Hands Down might be the best AS album guitarwise.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 03, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
What is really jumping out at me listening to the new Armored Saint is how good the guitar playing is. With apologies to the great Dave Prichard's performance on Raising Fear, Win Hands Down might be the best AS album guitarwise.

Its a great performance
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Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2015, 04:23:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 03, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
What is really jumping out at me listening to the new Armored Saint is how good the guitar playing is. With apologies to the great Dave Prichard's performance on Raising Fear, Win Hands Down might be the best AS album guitarwise.

I should check this out then.
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Post by: TAC on June 03, 2015, 06:10:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 03, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 03, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
What is really jumping out at me listening to the new Armored Saint is how good the guitar playing is. With apologies to the great Dave Prichard's performance on Raising Fear, Win Hands Down might be the best AS album guitarwise.

I should check this out then.

Absolutely. It's high quality Armored Saint. It's heavier than La Raza and more interesting than Revelation. The music is written by Joey Vera and you can see how his recent progressive influences have crept in.

And at 9 tracks, it doesn't wear out its welcome either.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 03, 2015, 06:32:22 PM: I agree that the Armored Saint is a quality album - very consistent but without any real standouts for me. On the other hand an album like Revelation I found had a number of fillers but the best couple of tracks I like better than anything on Win Hands Down. In the end I think I rated Win Hands Down higher but I would probably grab Revelation first for those killer couple of tracks.............if ya know what I mean ;D
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Post by: TAC on June 03, 2015, 06:48:08 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 03, 2015, 06:32:22 PM
I agree that the Armored Saint is a quality album - very consistent but without any real standouts for me. On the other hand an album like Revelation I found had a number of fillers but the best couple of tracks I like better than anything on Win Hands Down. In the end I think I rated Win Hands Down higher but I would probably grab Revelation first for those killer couple of tracks.............if ya know what I mean ;D
I know exactly what you mean. I love Upon My Departure and The Pillar from Revelation. Upon My Departure might be a Top 10 Armored Saint track for me, but all in all, I'm easily taking WHD. But it's basically been background music for me today. Can't wait for a real dedicated listen. But I can already tell that this is the best of the three post SOS albums.
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Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2015, 10:38:08 PM: I thought I owned an Armored Saint album, but I don't. Haven't really checked them out at all.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 07:05:17 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 03, 2015, 10:38:08 PM
I thought I owned an Armored Saint album, but I don't. Haven't really checked them out at all.

That's poor form man ;D

Some sad news - for Tim and I at least. Allan Fryer , lead singer of Aussie band Heaven just passed away from cancer. Wasn't too far off getting the gig in AC/DC back in the day and Heaven were one of the few Aussie bands I really got into to any extent. R.I.P to a true metal warrior.
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Post by: TAC on June 04, 2015, 07:34:11 AM: Yeah, that's too bad.

Was definitely into Heaven when I was a kid. Loved the first two albums. MTV played In The Beginning quite a bit. Word had it that he was the runner up to replace Bon Scott, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyiNNdfm1vw
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Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 07:36:16 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 04, 2015, 07:34:11 AM
Word had it that he was the runner up to replace Bon Scott, no?

Quote from: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 07:05:17 AM
Wasn't too far off getting the gig in AC/DC back in the day

yeah - that's what I was getting at ;D
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Post by: TAC on June 04, 2015, 07:46:11 AM: So I umm..wasn't too far off! :lol :facepalm:
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Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 08:44:52 AM: Some news tidbits:

- David Reece talking Accept's Eat The Heat https://youtu.be/yd9A5MHUPT4
- new Annihilator due in Sept.....samples sound quite Megadeth-ish https://youtu.be/kBLCphofEn8?t=97
- the Twister Sister doco I wondered about a while back (We Are Twisted Fucking Sister) is apparently getting a proper release in Aug/Sep

And here's a couple more Ryche shirts I found around the place.

(https://s1.postimg.org/jmkh4fthr/Picture_22.jpg)

(https://s3.postimg.org/kroqxamzn/Picture_24.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on June 04, 2015, 08:49:21 AM: Yeah, saw those stories yesterday. I didn't listen to the Reece interview.
Can't wait to see the Twisted Sister Doc.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 09:32:32 AM: Speaking of Reece.............Paul's already mentioned it in the melrock thread but the new Bonfire rocks pretty hard for that sort of thing. A big hard rock 80's sound that doesn't sound like the usual suspects. I am enjoying it. sample below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhXwMSZ9guE
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 04, 2015, 09:44:45 AM: Did anyone else think that was kicking into Orion at first?

Not bad, although it got a little bit more generic once the verses came in.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 04, 2015, 11:53:11 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 03, 2015, 10:38:08 PM
I thought I owned an Armored Saint album, but I don't. Haven't really checked them out at all.

That needs to change dude!

Cool QR shirts Brent.

David Reece seems like a decent guy, but he didn't fit in Accept at all. I still do like Eat the Heat overall though. What do you rate it.

That Twisted Sister doc looks cool. I also will buy the new live DVD/CD that they taped last week.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 04, 2015, 12:21:33 PM: I've owned both those shirts Brent. Still have the Empire one but the PL one bit the dust years ago.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 09:49:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 04, 2015, 11:53:11 AM

David Reece seems like a decent guy, but he didn't fit in Accept at all. I still do like Eat the Heat overall though. What do you rate it.

I rated Eat The Heat mid 70's but I think I was being pretty tough on ratings at the time. It's a good album and the last couple of tracks in particular (Hellhammer and Break The Ice) are damn good.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 12:57:13 AM: Week of the Ryche is almost over - thanks for the awesome response guys. We got 9 album rankings which is the best so far and a few new participants.

I have come up with a better method of collating results to account for some doing full discog rankings, some top 5 , some ties etc..... and so I'm happy that the results are pretty clear cut.

I will look at songs later but the albums results , for those that got some decent votes were:

1) Operation Mindcrime

2) Empire

3) The Warning (I was surprised to see this clearly beat Rage For Order)

4) Rage For Order
5) EP
6) Promised Land

Gaps to indicate degree of separation. The difference between the last three was very small.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 05, 2015, 01:37:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 12:57:13 AM

3) The Warning (I was surprised to see this clearly beat Rage For Order)

I'm surprised by this too.

I'm also (pleasantly) surprised that Promised Land is not in the top 5. From various discussions and other rankings (and even some in this thread) I got the impression that it is in much higher regard by most fans, which I never understood.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 01:37:40 AM: Looks like we agree all round Kwyjibo ;D :tup
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 05, 2015, 01:39:03 AM: Alright, Have a beer. :tup :metal
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 05, 2015, 04:43:42 AM: All this talk about the new Helloween (in the other thread) and Andi Deris made me pull out some old Pink Cream 69 and man, Games People Play was and still is an absolute killer album. Listening to it right now :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on June 05, 2015, 07:01:00 AM: I've never heard a single track from PC69.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 05, 2015, 07:43:43 AM: Kiuas, great unknown band from Finland who split a couple years ago.
https://youtu.be/i1OO3c1j3WI
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 07:55:39 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on June 05, 2015, 07:43:43 AM
Kiuas, great unknown band from Finland who split a couple years ago.
https://youtu.be/i1OO3c1j3WI

I have 3 of their albums so they ain't unknown ;D
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Post by: gazinwales on June 05, 2015, 08:09:41 AM: Well I am stunned that anyone here knows them :biggrin:
Which album are you missing?
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 08:10:57 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on June 05, 2015, 08:09:41 AM
Well I am stunned that anyone here knows them :biggrin:
Which album are you missing?

The last one , which I gather isn't as good.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2015, 08:11:52 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 05, 2015, 04:43:42 AM
All this talk about the new Helloween (in the other thread) and Andi Deris made me pull out some old Pink Cream 69 and man, Games People Play was and still is an absolute killer album. Listening to it right now :metal :metal :metal

Didn't like the Deris era at all. Sonic Dynamite, Electrified and especially Thunderdome (a Lowdz top 50 album) are the ones I go for. The last couple have been decent too. David Readman is such a great singer. They were great live too.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 05, 2015, 08:13:26 AM: Lustdriven?
Probably my fave from them out of the 4 albums they released.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 08:14:16 AM: I like both eras of PC 69 (the best albums anyway)..............I'd prefer One Size Fits All over Games People Play I think.

Quote from: gazinwales on June 05, 2015, 08:13:26 AM
Lustdriven?
Probably my fave from them out of the 4 albums they released.

Fair enough - I'll check it out. 3 out of 4 ain't bad :)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 05, 2015, 08:17:44 AM: From the Deris era Games People Play is the best for me. The other two are solid. Sonic Dynamite and Electrified are my favorites from the Readman era. I have kind of lost track of them after that, so I didn't listen to Thunderdome or any of the newer ones. May have to rectify that.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2015, 08:19:12 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 05, 2015, 08:17:44 AM
From the Deris era Games People Play is the best for me. The other two are solid. Sonic Dynamite and Electrified are my favorites from the Readman era. I have kind of lost track of them after that, so I didn't listen to Thunderdome or any of the newer ones. May have to rectify that.

Get Thunderdome now :omg: :metal Can't believe you won't love it as you like the band anyway.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 05, 2015, 08:19:34 AM: Yup glad you already like them, and Lustdriven I am sure you'll find as good as the previous 3.
They actually do a pretty good version of Whitesnake's 'Sailing Ships' too.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 08:20:51 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 05, 2015, 08:17:44 AM
From the Deris era Games People Play is the best for me. The other two are solid. Sonic Dynamite and Electrified are my favorites from the Readman era. I have kind of lost track of them after that, so I didn't listen to Thunderdome or any of the newer ones. May have to rectify that.

Sonic Dynamite and Electrified are my picks too.....In10sity and Thunderdome are very solid too but I've lost interest in most of Readman's most recent material . The Room Experience thing sounds pretty average too but I'll check it out.

Quote from: gazinwales on June 05, 2015, 08:19:34 AM
Yup glad you already like them, and Lustdriven I am sure you'll find as good as the previous 3.
They actually do a pretty good version of Whitesnake's 'Sailing Ships' too.

OK - will do.
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2015, 04:40:12 PM: PC69 are awesome.
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Post by: TAC on June 05, 2015, 04:43:10 PM: Might be the worst name for a band ever. Where the hell would I even begin to start with them?
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 06, 2015, 07:17:09 AM: It is a terrible name.

Everything I've heard from them, especially the Deris songs, are top notch.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 06, 2015, 07:32:37 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2015, 04:43:10 PM
Might be the worst name for a band ever. Where the hell would I even begin to start with them?

Stupid name for sure. If you know and like Deris from Helloween I would recommend Games People Play. Probably my favorite record from them. For the Readman era Electrified or Sonic Dynamite are good starting points.
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Post by: TAC on June 06, 2015, 07:38:56 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 06, 2015, 07:32:37 AM
Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2015, 04:43:10 PM
Might be the worst name for a band ever. Where the hell would I even begin to start with them?

Stupid name for sure. If you know and like Deris from Helloween I would recommend Games People Play. Probably my favorite record from them. For the Readman era Electrified or Sonic Dynamite are good starting points.
I'll check them out. I'm not a huge Deris fan though.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 06, 2015, 11:24:04 PM: Queensryche Top 10 song results..........we only got a few entries for songs so it's a small sample. But the favourite song was a tie between:

Queen of the Reich
I Don't Believe In love
Eyes of a Stranger
Walk In The Shadows

No big surprises there I don't think.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 06, 2015, 11:46:23 PM: A new week is here and we'll feature a band that I've never really connected with much but a band that needs to be featured before I get in trouble ;D :angel:

(https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/lpatm/themes/MAIDENLOGO.jpg)

I'll leave the trivia to you guys on this one - I don't even have a shirt to feature. To me Iron Maiden are one of those bands that I enjoy enough when I hear them (usually just the hits) but have never felt connected enough to want to buy an album. And I can't put my finger on why that is. I can honestly say that I have never owned an Iron Maiden album until very recently - I bought some digital copies of their 80's albums so as I could do my job properly with the Best of The 80's year lists. And funnily enough , based on my ratings, Iron Maiden albums made a couple of my Top Tens (Number Of The Beast and Piece of Mind) and an HM (Somewhere In Time) . Even so I still never really feel the need to put some Iron Maiden on rotation like I would other classic metal bands like Priest. Maybe now that I have some albums , they may begin to grow on me.

Anyway - I will review my ratings during the week , have a listen or two and post my lists then . I think I just have the 5 or 6 albums , so I just scrape in. So take it away guys..............album rankings (at least a Top 5 if possible) , Top 10 Songs and any cool Maiden anecdotes .
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 07, 2015, 12:02:20 AM: I feel pretty much as you do about IM. I did see them live a few years ago, and it was definitely one of the better live shows I've seen, and I enjoy their music when it's on, but I've never connected with it on a level that makes me go out of my way to ever listen to them.

I basically just know TNOTB and 2 Minutes to Midnight (thanks GTA).
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Post by: gazinwales on June 07, 2015, 03:51:23 AM: Maiden were one of the first bands I got into when I discovered metal in the early 1980's..
Along with Manowar, Priest and Rush, they were my staple music for much of that decade.

1. Piece Of Mind
2. Powerslave
3. Somewhere In Time
4. Number Of The Beast
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2015, 05:55:37 AM: I'm watching The Pat Benatar 35th Anniversary tour and she is still so damn hot for 62 and still has her pipes.
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2015, 06:55:07 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on June 07, 2015, 05:55:37 AM
I'm watching The Pat Benatar 35th Anniversary tour and she is still so damn hot for 62 and still has her pipes.
One of the first artists I was into. Wow..so long ago. Well before Iron Maiden!

Those first 3 albums of hers are spectacular.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2015, 06:56:18 AM: They still rock. For years I keep saying I'd love to see her again. This concert video made up my mind.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2015, 06:58:16 AM: Pat Benatar is one of those artists where little comes to mind immediately aside from the bleeding obvious from my childhood (All Fired Up etc...) but if someone were to play me all her hits I would probably be :omg:

I just checked my stuff and I have Wide Awake In Dreamland and the 2 CD Ultimate Collection. No doubt I'll get around to refreshing my memory in the not too distant future. One of the few female rock singers that ever impressed me.
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2015, 07:10:40 AM: But the deep tracks on In The Heat Of The Night (especially) and Crimes Of Passion are terrific.

Maybe we should have Pat Benatar week first so you can properly prep on Maiden! :D

Brent, I'm surprised at your lack of Maiden authority. It doesn't really compute.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2015, 07:23:18 AM: I remember seeing Pat Benatar in Maine with The Alarm opening. A 6 months later was Iron Maiden. Those days it felt like there was 2 concerts a month for me.
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2015, 07:28:19 AM: I wouldn't see Pat Benatar until about 1995ish opening for Styx.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2015, 07:31:18 AM: For Styx? That would have been cool. Last time I was here was in 1988. I went to see the Pats play and drove to Boston to see her at The Orpheum.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2015, 07:37:13 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2015, 07:10:40 AM
Maybe we should have Pat Benatar week first so you can properly prep on Maiden! :D

Brent, I'm surprised at your lack of Maiden authority. It doesn't really compute.

I knew I would regret this :lol My lack of appreciation for Maiden computes about as much as you saying a Talking Heads song is outstanding though :P ;D

I really don't know why they don't impress me as much as everyone else (same for Rush , although I dislike most prog rock and even much of the mid-career of DT) but it's not as if I actively dislike them..........they did make some Top 10's. I guess I don't rate Dickinson's voice as high as everyone else and I think if we line up two albums from 1984 .........Priest's Defenders and Maiden's Powerslave ....I prefer the thicker ,more produced sound of Priest to the rawer , thinner sound of Maiden. I'm clutching at straws a bit but it is what it is. They just haven't played any serious part in my live outside of a casual listen.

I suppose another possible factor is radio play. All of the bands we're talking about and plenty in Kev's 80's thread (Rush, Triumph, Squier etc...) had pretty much zero presence on mainstream radio as I was growing up. The only Maiden song I ever heard on popular radio was Can I Play With Madness. Almost all of the bands that I am into are as a result of me exploring/researching music and I never felt the need to delve too deep with Maiden - many of the songs I had heard were rather "samey". I did have one obscure metal show that I listened to during school years on an underground station that played everything from Van Halen to Napalm Death and that was good but he didn't play much Maiden.....big Manowar fan he was. Funnily enough the one Maiden song I remember hearing and liking the most back then was Killers.

Like I said..........maybe they'll grow on me a bit now that I've gone to the effort of getting some albums. I can't ever see them being an all time fave though . As we know , growing up liking a band makes a big difference there.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 07, 2015, 07:48:02 AM: Brent I think you need to listen to only Iron Maiden for a week and see if that changes your mind.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2015, 07:57:05 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 07, 2015, 07:48:02 AM
Brent I think you need to listen to only Iron Maiden for a week and see if that changes your mind.

The metal doctor has prescribed a week's course of Maiden until finished.

Yes Doc ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on June 07, 2015, 08:02:40 AM: One of my first bands- Killers is a Lowdz top 50 album, Beast, PoM and Powerslave aren't far behind and then it went downhill... Or my taste changed maybe? I was really into the shredders by the time SiT hit and Murray and Smith just weren't doing it for me. Live they were alwYs awesome. I've seen them several times, twice at Donington I think.
Of the post ssoass albums only aMoLaD was much of a hit with me.

And as for Pat, I saw a live concert on TV from the Get Nervous tour and fell in love. I have all those early albums on vinyl but she went too pop for me in the late 80s and I lost track.
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Post by: KevShmev on June 07, 2015, 08:06:16 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
I wouldn't see Pat Benatar until about 1995ish opening for Styx.

That was 1997, I believe.

1996 was Styx's Return to Paradise tour (that they did with Kansas).
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2015, 08:16:10 AM: After consulting my ticket stub album, I saw Styx twice.
Return To Paradise on 5/26/91 and The Grand Illusion show on 6/20/96. Pat Benatar opened the 96 show.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2015, 08:21:10 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2015, 08:16:10 AM
After consulting my ticket stub album

I wish I had kept more of those now........concerts in Australia by my favourite bands are so rare and I didn't bother to keep many. I have also never been one for taking cameras along so my records/memory of gigs aren't what they could be.

Having said that the missus threw a box at me on the weekend ("can I throw this out"- y'know ::)) and it had a couple of interesting things in it that I will try and post during the week.

And..........I never thought I would see Maiden week be overwhelmed by Pat Benatar and Styx :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on June 07, 2015, 08:21:18 AM: Hmmm, that is odd. I saw them on 7-27-96 and I remember that being advertised as a Kansas/Styx billing for the whole summer tour. Weird.

But wait, how did you see the Return to Paradise tour in 1991? That tour was in 1996.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2015, 08:21:31 AM: I thought the Return to Paradise tour was 96 with Kansas as Kev said. 91/92 was the Edge Of The Century tour with Gen Burtnick filling in for Tommy Shaw.
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Post by: KevShmev on June 07, 2015, 08:28:14 AM: According to set.list.fm, both Kansas and Styx played at the Great Woods Amphitheater in Mansfield, MA, on 6-20-96, and Pat Benatar didn't play anywhere that night.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2015, 08:31:14 AM: I was at that show. That was the first time seeing Todd Sucherman live. He is a monster of a drummer.
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2015, 08:33:10 AM: Did they tour it twice?

I definitely remember it being billed as the Return To Paradise. The guy comes out sweeping the stage, etc. Tommy Shaw was present, as was Dennis DeYoung.

Pat Benatar definitely opened here in '96. I was dating my The Lovely Mrs TAC and she was a big Pat Benatar fan. No sign of Kansas, unless they were billed 3rd, but I would remember that.

Quote from: KevShmev on June 07, 2015, 08:28:14 AM

According to set.list.fm, both Kansas and Styx played at the Great Woods Amphitheater in Mansfield, MA, on 6-20-96, and Pat Benatar didn't play anywhere that night.

Setlist FM is wrong. :) I have NEVER seen Kansas.

Quote from: kingshmegland on June 07, 2015, 08:31:14 AM
I was at that show. That was the first time seeing Todd Sucherman live. He is a monster of a drummer.
Do you remember who opened? I KNOW it was Pat Benatar.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2015, 08:42:48 AM: Yes, it was Kansas. I was with my wife, brother and my best buddy.
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2015, 08:48:09 AM: I just asked my wife and she says Pat Benatar! :lol

Setlist FM has three generic song entries for that night. Can't be trusted. Was Kansas 3rd on the bill, and we stayed in the parking lot, maybe?
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2015, 09:06:28 AM: OK Mystery solved..Saw them on 6/27/97 at Great Woods with Pat Benatar. Did not go to the 96 show. Can't find the stub, but for some reason I had the 96 show on my list.

I remember them playing them featuring The Grand Illusion album.

I saw them in '91 and that was a Return To Paradise tour. They must have retoured it in 96 and I did not go.

BTW, stumbled upon this website during this exercise this morning:
https://www.styxtoury.com/performances.html
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 07, 2015, 10:03:54 AM: Ooh! I'll check that out!
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 07, 2015, 05:49:49 PM: How did the Iron Maiden discussion turn into Pat Benatar lol

Iron Maiden is a band that I enjoy every song from every album. Not one song that I would skip.

Top five albums

Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
Somewhere in Time
Number of the Beast
Powerslave
Piece of Mind
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2015, 06:16:40 PM: Quote from: KevShmev on June 07, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
I wouldn't see Pat Benatar until about 1995ish opening for Styx.

That was 1997, I believe.

1996 was Styx's Return to Paradise tour (that they did with Kansas).
You are correct.

I figured out my mistake. I only have two Styx shows listed on my Concert List. 91 & 96. I know I saw the Return To Paradise show and The Grand Illusion Show, and I also remember Pat Benatar opening for the Grand Illusion tour. Well, I FOUND my 96 stub and guess what..it says Styx/KANSAS! :lol

So apparently I saw Styx 3 times, not twice. Not sure why the 97 show is not on my List, but I know I saw it.
Anyway, I have no recollection of the 91 show, even though I obviously attended due to my stub, not do I have any recollection of Kansas in 96, though my stub proves I was there, and I distinctly remember seeing the Return To Paradise show.

A lesson for you kids out there..lay off the :hat!!
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2015, 07:42:03 PM: I am going to have an Iron Maiden day tomorrow....sorry Pat. :) I have everything from Killers to Seventh Son , so will listen to those + one of the latter ones. My question to you guys is , knowing my taste to some extent , which one of the post Seventh Son albums would you recommend first?
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 07, 2015, 07:59:40 PM: I would say Fear of the Dark.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 08, 2015, 12:30:15 AM: Always was a fan of Pat Benatar but never got around to seeing her live, so I had to do with live videos. I wouldn't mind it if she would put out some new music. Like so many other bands she's turning into a nostalgia act, touring and playing the same hits over and over again.

And now: Back to metal, Maiden ranking time.

For me, Maiden is all about Bruce Dickinson. I know that Steve Harris is the main songwriter and probably the driving force behind the band. But what I mean is that for this kind of music to work you need a powerful soaring metal singer, just like Bruce Dickinson. This is the main reason why I don’t like/can’t connect with the Bailey and the DiAnno albums. The songs just don’t work with another voice. And in the case of the Bailey era there are also bad production and bad songwriting to blame. So anyway, my rating goes like this:

1. Piece Of Mind
2. Powerslave
3. The Number Of The Beast
4. Brave New World
5. The Final Frontier
6. Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
7. A Matter Of Life And Death
8. Somewhere In Time
9. Dance Of Death
10. Fear Of The Dark
11. Killers
12. No Prayer For The Dying
13. Iron Maiden
14. The X Factor
15. Virtual XI
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Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2015, 04:25:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 07, 2015, 07:42:03 PM
I am going to have an Iron Maiden day tomorrow....sorry Pat. :) I have everything from Killers to Seventh Son , so will listen to those + one of the latter ones. My question to you guys is , knowing my taste to some extent , which one of the post Seventh Son albums would you recommend first?

A Matter of Life and Death or Brave New World - avoid the Blaze albums :biggrin: (I know Kade won't agree!)
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2015, 06:08:58 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 07, 2015, 07:59:40 PM
I would say Fear of the Dark.

This or BNW. maybe AMOLAD too.
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2015, 06:09:46 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 08, 2015, 04:25:08 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 07, 2015, 07:42:03 PM
I am going to have an Iron Maiden day tomorrow....sorry Pat. :) I have everything from Killers to Seventh Son , so will listen to those + one of the latter ones. My question to you guys is , knowing my taste to some extent , which one of the post Seventh Son albums would you recommend first?

A Matter of Life and Death or Brave New World - avoid the Blaze albums :biggrin: (I know Kade won't agree!)

TXF FTW. I love TXF but I think I wouldn't recommend this to Brent right away. It would be one of the last to check out.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2015, 06:50:18 AM: Thanks guys - looks like the consensus is Fear Of The Dark and Brave New World. At least if I expand my horizons beyond 5 or 6 albums my Top 5 will mean a little more.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 08, 2015, 07:04:38 AM: Fear Of The Dark is from a time when IM was on the decline, BNW is the triumphant return, so I would go with the latter (and the other three reunion albums) before hearing Fear Of The Dark. Fear Of The Dark has some good tracks but consists of mostly filler material, al least imo.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2015, 07:39:35 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 08, 2015, 07:04:38 AM
Fear Of The Dark is from a time when IM was on the decline, BNW is the triumphant return, so I would go with the latter (and the other three reunion albums) before hearing Fear Of The Dark. Fear Of The Dark has some good tracks but consists of mostly filler material, al least imo.

No filler with Maiden!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 08, 2015, 07:59:39 AM: As much as I love Maiden, I think that almost every album has at least one filler track and with Fear and No Prayer it's more filler than good ones. Not to mention Virtual XI, which is mostly not even filler material ;D
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2015, 11:52:28 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 08, 2015, 07:04:38 AM
Fear Of The Dark is from a time when IM was on the decline, BNW is the triumphant return, so I would go with the latter (and the other three reunion albums) before hearing Fear Of The Dark. Fear Of The Dark has some good tracks but consists of mostly filler material, al least imo.
The problem with FOTD is that this was the first Maiden album in the "CD age" and the album is much longer than it needs to be. It's easily 3-4 songs too long. I firmly believe that Fear is 8 songs deep.
Another issue with the album is how bad Bruce sounds on it. Either he didn't care, or his voice was shot.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2015, 01:55:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 08, 2015, 11:52:28 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 08, 2015, 07:04:38 AM
Fear Of The Dark is from a time when IM was on the decline, BNW is the triumphant return, so I would go with the latter (and the other three reunion albums) before hearing Fear Of The Dark. Fear Of The Dark has some good tracks but consists of mostly filler material, al least imo.
The problem with FOTD is that this was the first Maiden album in the "CD age" and the album is much longer than it needs to be. It's easily 3-4 songs too long. I firmly believe that Fear is 8 songs deep.
Another issue with the album is how bad Bruce sounds on it. Either he didn't care, or his voice was shot.

Yeah, this.

Some killer on there but not enough to make me want to play the album to get to it. Even in the vinyl age Maiden pushed the limits of the technology length-wise.
And I agree with kwyjibo about the filler. Except for Killers which is perfect.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2015, 01:58:22 PM: Iron Maiden is one of my all time favorite bands, but yes, there is plenty of filler.

Hey Brent, nothing wrong with taking Defenders over Powerslave. I'd likely do the same.
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Post by: bosk1 on June 08, 2015, 02:30:23 PM: Maiden is one of those bands I just never got into. If not for this forum, I cannot see having given them another chance as I did about 2 years ago. Glad I did. There is a lot of fun music there. I feel like I discussed them to death in the IM thread when I was discovering them.

I have most of the Bruce-era albums. Of the few I do not have, I am not in a rush to get them. I have heard most of the songs, and I am content with that I have. I don't really care for the non-Bruce albums. But I DO like most of the live renditions I have heard with Bruce on vocals. Here is how I would probably rank the albums I have:

1. The Final Frontier
2. Piece of Mind
3. Somewhere In Time
4. Dance of Death
5. The Number of the Beast
6. A Matter of Life and Death
7. Powerslave
8. Brave New World
9. Seventh Son
10. Killers

Top 10 songs would be:

1. When the Wild Wind Blows
2. Coming Home
3. Rime of the Ancient Mariner
4. Satellite 15... The Final Frontier
5. The Trooper
6. El Dorado
7. The Clansman
8. Revelations
9. Stranger in a Strange Land
10. The Reincarnation of Benjamin Breeg

Changed slightly, but not hugely, from when I did a top 25 2 years ago.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2015, 02:41:23 PM: Interesting list Bosk. Glad to see Coming Home rated so high. I think it's one of the best songs they've ever done.
You rate Dance Of Death at #4. Nice. It catches way too much flak.
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Post by: bosk1 on June 08, 2015, 02:49:55 PM: I may not have ranked Dance of Death as high if not for the live versions. They just have SO much fun with the title song that it is hard not to like it. And Monsequr, Paschendale, Face In The Sand, and Journeyman rate pretty high on my lists as well (and No More Lies ain't bad, other than the chorus).

But admittedly, my lists are a lot less scientific and more subjective than a certain Aussie thread starter, so if you sat me down and made me do a song-by-song comparison, I might not rank it as high as some other albums. :dunno:
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 08, 2015, 03:42:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 08, 2015, 02:41:23 PM
Interesting list Bosk. Glad to see Coming Home rated so high. I think it's one of the best songs they've ever done.
You rate Dance Of Death at #4. Nice. It catches way too much flak.

Coming Home is a really great song, but for me it sounds more like a Bruce solo tune than an Iron Maiden one. The song would fit nicely on Chemical Wedding.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2015, 03:47:15 PM: Yeah, it's got Bruce written all over it obviously. But the fact that it's recorded by Maiden makes it all the more cooler.
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2015, 03:48:40 PM: Coming Home was decent enough, but never a fav of mine from that album.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2015, 03:54:27 PM: I think it is a great example of the band's growth in the Reunion era.
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Post by: bosk1 on June 08, 2015, 03:56:14 PM: If I was going to write an Iron Maiden song, that would probably be the one I would write.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2015, 05:27:46 PM: I lied when I said I had no Maiden oddities . I just went and typed in "Number Of........" into iTunes and up comes Italian comedy metal band Nanowar and their phone sex song "166 - 166 The Number Of The Bitch" :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHmzSjAfQbg
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2015, 07:05:23 PM: Yikes!
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Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2015, 09:29:13 PM: I knew you would like it jj -the Italian accent makes it even "better" ;D

Turns out that when I got those 80's albums I also decided to add From Fear To Eternity 2CD (best of 1990-2010) in digital format which has Coming Home and others.......so I will try and give that a listen too before I post songs.

I am hearing a huge number of influences on the Killers album that I never noticed on a more casual listen - although in the case of Wrathchild it sounds a bit too much like Stormbringer?? The Prodigal Son progression is not unlike You Can't Kill Rock n Roll (released around the same time) . Hearing lots of Zep and even Lizzy/Floyd at times on Killers too. It may sound weird to you guys but when he's singing in his lower register and not belting it out Di'anno reminded me a bit of Peter Criss. Anyway-an interesting album that got a little boost in rating.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2015, 04:06:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 08, 2015, 09:29:13 PM
I knew you would like it jj -the Italian accent makes it even "better" ;D

Turns out that when I got those 80's albums I also decided to add From Fear To Eternity 2CD (best of 1990-2010) in digital format which has Coming Home and others.......so I will try and give that a listen too before I post songs.

I am hearing a huge number of influences on the Killers album that I never noticed on a more casual listen - although in the case of Wrathchild it sounds a bit too much like Stormbringer?? The Prodigal Son progression is not unlike You Can't Kill Rock n Roll (released around the same time) . Hearing lots of Zep and even Lizzy/Floyd at times on Killers too. It may sound weird to you guys but when he's singing in his lower register and not belting it out Di'anno reminded me a bit of Peter Criss. Anyway-an interesting album that got a little boost in rating.

I've never picked up on the Stormbringer/Wrathchild thing... interesting. I always thought there was alot of Uriah Heep, Priest, and UFO, Lizzy in there. It was one of those album s that made me a metalhead.
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Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2015, 05:12:35 AM: Lizzy and UFO were two of Steve's biggest influences, if not his biggest.

Can't hear the Stormbringer thing either, but now you mention the Prodigal Son and Rock and Roll, I can see what you're saying there with that.
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Post by: TAC on June 09, 2015, 03:30:36 PM: So I picked this up yesterday and enjoyed my first listen:

(https://bravewords-public.s3.amazonaws.com/images/p19ivb0b031ulufif197er850g4.jpg)

Features Pete Morten on vocals and guitar. He has such a unique voice. This is pretty much straight to power metal.

I wonder what this means for My Soliloquy. Morten was tremendous on that, and is still one of my favorite albums of the last few years.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 10, 2015, 08:14:04 AM: If any of the Aussies/NZers around are interested Seb Bach has announced a tour for September.

(https://images1.musicfeeds.com.au/24d6b08bd14fe120d0734ba8b5bc33dc-640x905.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on June 10, 2015, 03:26:41 PM: :lol Thanks but no thanks Brent.

Wait, who's his band these days? A few years ago he almost had Halford's backing band.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 10, 2015, 04:01:18 PM: I think it's Brent Woods and Bobby Jarzombek
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Post by: wolfking on June 10, 2015, 04:12:09 PM: Oh yeah, I remember that new guitarist now. His lineup on Angel Down was amazing.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 10, 2015, 04:26:48 PM: enough with the bullshit and just reunite the Skid Row
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Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2015, 05:12:32 AM: New Lynch Mob. Nothing flash at all if you ask me. Very good solo section though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=deJdCFQ76BA
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Post by: TAC on June 11, 2015, 07:50:59 AM: So anyway, my Maiden listings go like this:

Albums:
1. The Number Of The Beast
2. Piece Of Mind
3. Seventh Son
4. The Final Frontier
5. A Matter Of Life And Death
6. Killers

Songs:
1. Hallowed Be Thy Name
2. Fear Of The Dark
3. Caught Somewhere In Time
4. Phantom Of The Opera
5. Children Of The Damned
6. 22 Acacia Avenue
7. Sign Of The Cross
8. The Talisman
9. Infinite Dreams
10. Lord Of Light

Favorite Live Album:
Death On The Road

Favorite tour:
Ed Hunter Reunion tour
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Post by: Lowdz on June 11, 2015, 01:40:20 PM: Oh go on then...

Killers
Powerslave
Piece of Mind
Beast
AMOLAD
Seventh Son
somewhereInTime

Not too fussed with the others tbh
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Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2015, 12:18:30 AM: Kade walks into the room and the girls circle and the compliments start flowing............"What's that cologne you're wearing?"

Kade: "Well I don't always get dressed up like this (Priest shirt) ,but when I do I insist on KK Downing's Metal For Men" :metal

(https://guitarinternational.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/kkdowningfragranceside_638-1.jpg)

???
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 12, 2015, 12:47:33 AM: One of the last smells I associate with being pleasant is heavy metal musician. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 12, 2015, 01:19:40 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 11, 2015, 05:12:32 AM
New Lynch Mob. Nothing flash at all if you ask me. Very good solo section though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=deJdCFQ76BA

meh
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Post by: Lowdz on June 12, 2015, 06:03:31 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 12, 2015, 01:19:40 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 11, 2015, 05:12:32 AM
New Lynch Mob. Nothing flash at all if you ask me. Very good solo section though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=deJdCFQ76BA

meh

It was ok until the bland chorus.
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Post by: Deathless on June 12, 2015, 07:09:06 AM: Man, it's crazy to me that Bach actually sells better than SR in a lot of places. I still can't believe they turned down $250,000 to do like two shows or whatever it was at Sonishphere. ???
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Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2015, 08:34:43 AM: Quote from: Deathless on June 12, 2015, 07:09:06 AM
Man, it's crazy to me that Bach actually sells better than SR in a lot of places. I still can't believe they turned down $250,000 to do like two shows or whatever it was at Sonishphere. ???

It doesn't surprise me at all - Skid Row were a great band but Bach was the standout performer . It's a bit like JBJ vs Sambora/Torres with another singer ........JBJ would outsell them by a mile even though some would say Sambora has the better voice and doesn't even need a singer.
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Post by: TAC on June 12, 2015, 02:26:45 PM: Cool interview with Andy Laroque. King Diamond is hit or miss with me, but musically, it's great stuff. King is a great songwriter, but he has a GREAT guitarist and partner in Laroque. He is by far Metal's most underrated guitarist.
And cool that he mentions Schenker as an influence, because I can hear it clearly.

https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/andy_larocque_of_king_diamond/
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Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2015, 03:31:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 12, 2015, 12:18:30 AM
Kade walks into the room and the girls circle and the compliments start flowing............"What's that cologne you're wearing?"

Kade: "Well I don't always get dressed up like this (Priest shirt) ,but when I do I insist on KK Downing's Metal For Men" :metal

(https://guitarinternational.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/kkdowningfragranceside_638-1.jpg)

???

:lol Nice touch. I love KK and all, but not sure I want to go around smelling like him. It would be interesting to smell what's it's like though. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2015, 03:36:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 12, 2015, 02:26:45 PM
Cool interview with Andy Laroque. King Diamond is hit or miss with me, but musically, it's great stuff. King is a great songwriter, but he has a GREAT guitarist and partner in Laroque. He is by far Metal's most underrated guitarist.
And cool that he mentions Schenker as an influence, because I can hear it clearly.

https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/andy_larocque_of_king_diamond/

Yeah, he's one of my favourites, and definitely underrated. Interesting the mention on Air Dance inspiring Sleepless Nights. Will have to listen but thinking about it I do think the verses are similar. Interesting.
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Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2015, 03:42:31 PM: I think this new Pyramaze is fucking fantastic.
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Post by: TAC on June 12, 2015, 03:49:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 12, 2015, 03:42:31 PM
I think this new Pyramaze is fucking fantastic.
So I should get it? I thought you guys were ragging on it last week or so. I actually held off. Maybe it wasn't you, Wolfie, but someone was saying.

This has been a great year in music. It's June and I've already bought 15 albums. I haven't bought 15 in a FULL year for a long time.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 12, 2015, 05:11:11 PM: First listen didn't do a lot for me but the second and third were better.pretty good I'd say. Worth spotifying TAC.
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Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2015, 05:21:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 12, 2015, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 12, 2015, 03:42:31 PM
I think this new Pyramaze is fucking fantastic.
So I should get it? I thought you guys were ragging on it last week or so. I actually held off. Maybe it wasn't you, Wolfie, but someone was saying.

This has been a great year in music. It's June and I've already bought 15 albums. I haven't bought 15 in a FULL year for a long time.

Yeah, wasn't me man, I hadn't heard it yet. The first 4-5 listens was tough as it does lack a bit of variety and it was quite difficult to get into. Once I cranked it like the sixth time in the car the songs and melodies really opened up and I think it's brilliant. Not a weak song on here and even though it could use a little more variety it's very consistent.
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Post by: TAC on June 12, 2015, 06:24:52 PM: Alright, Ill check it out. I liked the singer's voice in the sample track.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2015, 11:30:46 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 25, 2015, 09:22:50 PM
If you end up getting the new Pyramaze Kade then let me know what you think. It's getting amazing reviews but I'm not really sold on it.

It's a hard album for me to describe as it ventures into sounds that aren't my forte , so apologies if I stuff up the references. First off it sounds nothing like old Pyramaze. It's got a distinct modern metal sound , mostly due to the vocals which sound like they'd be at home on a heavy Stone Sour ?? album and the music has a dark vibe akin to Anubis Gate or Evergrey (but not quite as good). In fact I'm pretty sure the vocal melodies were done by a guy from Anubis Gate.

After one listen (and I can't imagine there will be too many more aside from the track Hope Springs Eternal ) I would give it a solid but unspectacular 77% There's nothing really bad on it but also nothing much that reaches out and grabs me , so I was bored with it by the end. And I'll admit that the "modern" vibe annoys me unless it's done particularly well like the last Evergrey.

I also just had a listen to the Crystal Ball album that was mentioned a while back - solid hard rock/metal record - sorta Accept-lite. Around 80% for that one.

That was me - didn't hate it but didn't do too much for me either.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 13, 2015, 03:18:53 AM: I've never taken the time to listen to much Foo Fighters but props to Mr Grohl for finishing off his gig with a broken leg. Very :metal

(https://katiedozier.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/respect.gif)
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Post by: bl5150 on June 13, 2015, 04:18:26 AM: I should get a chance to check out that new Borealis album in the next few days Kade.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 13, 2015, 05:55:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 13, 2015, 04:18:26 AM
I should get a chance to check out that new Borealis album in the next few days Kade.

:psychosane:
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Post by: bl5150 on June 13, 2015, 06:40:00 AM: (https://reactiongif.org/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/09/Agree-Agreeing-Captain-kirk-Chuffed-Delighted-Happy-Nod-Nodding-Pleased-Smile-Star-trek-Well-then-William-Shatner-Yeah-Yes-Oh-Yea-Oh-Yes-Aw-Yeah-GIF.gif)
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Post by: bl5150 on June 13, 2015, 11:18:37 PM: Well it's the end of Iron Maiden week and I have followed Dr JJ's prescription and listened to not much else. It hasn't been one of my heavier listening weeks but ,all the same , the fact that I managed to do it says something. So at the end of it, what's the verdict?

I think I can still say that they'll never be an all time favourite of mine but I have been converted to some extent.
One thing I will give them for starters is that they appear to be remarkably consistent in terms of not releasing rubbish - even Top 10 bands for me like Queensryche, DT etc... have had multi-album runs that I rate very low and I have a feeling that may not be the case with Iron Maiden.

So this week I have listened to all the 80's albums sans the debut , as well as the 2 CD set From Fear To Eternity (best of 1990-2010).

(https://covers.box.sk/newsimg/dvdmov/max1328613807-back-cover.jpg)

Despite how it might seem with all my ratings etc.... I usually put very little thought into rating music aside from how it pleases my ears/how often I wish to hear it in future. That's my rating system in short - and I only started doing it because I can't remember how good/bad all my stuff is . I admire how much thought goes into a clever piece of music (Octavarium for instance) but if I don't like listening to it (I don't) without that knowledge then it means nothing to me.

In the case of Iron Maiden I have tried to put a bit more thought than usual into why I may not have connected with them the way most of you guys have and I'm still a bit stumped. They do have a very different feel to them compared to most bands I like - perhaps more lead based rhythms vs low end riffs/ power chords , Bruce's vocals I find tend to overpower the guitars at times , I can't remember too many solos at all that impressed me (pleasant for sure but few standouts) and maybe I'd prefer more full choruses and less "chants". On the positive side I think they have a knack for having at least 2-3 memorable songs on each album and , although lyrics mean little to me in the end, it is noticeable even to me that they are well above par in terms of the amount of thought that goes into their songs. And of course the rhythm section is very solid.

In the end I think it comes down to two things:

1) I don't like Bruce's voice as much as everyone else does and he is front and centre at all times. I do think he has a fine metal voice but he does at times use it in ways that grate on my ears. I much prefer his more natural deeper/gruff range as featured on songs like Number Of The Beast and even Holy Smoke which I find to be a really fun song where he just belts it out in that range. His higher range is hit and miss for me - sometimes it sounds fantastic but at other times where he tends to turn a's and i's into strained eeeeeeeeeeeee's ("somewhere in tieeeeeeeeeeeem") I really don't like it. Used sparingly I can hack it but in many songs I can't stand it. On Back In The Village he sounds like a constipated fairy.

2) My apathy towards Maiden has its basis in the mid-late 80's and specifically the albums Number Of The Beast, Piece Of Mind and Powerslave. I heard plenty of the hits (which I quite liked) but when I heard others playing the full albums those songs stood out to me as head and shoulders above the rest. So unlike my favourite bands where I liked most of the deep cuts too , with Maiden there were hits (that I was eventually sick of) and the deeper cuts which I didn't like. And that remains today with those albums , except I am receptive again to the classics after a long break.

During my recent listening it has become clear to me that I like the way they went after this period better - the music is more lush ,more consistently likeable (for me) and I like Bruce's vocals better. So perhaps I gave up on Maiden at just the wrong time.

Having said that I didn't like Seventh Son at all on my first listen years ago and all of a sudden I rated it quite high this time so perhaps my tastes have changed too.

Rankings

I am ranking just from Killers through Seventh Son of a Seventh Son , which were rated between 77%-89%. So they're a high tier band for me at this point (higher than a week ago :D ) but not right up there with my absolute faves . If I had rated the Best of 1990-2010 album it would've been up around 90% so I should check out those albums too.

Albums Top 5:

Somewhere In Time
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
Killers
Number Of The Beast
Piece Of Mind

Songs Top 10

Stranger In A Strange Land
The Number Of The Beast
Killers
2 Minutes To Midnight
Different world
The Reincarnation of Benjamin Breeg
Aces High
For The Greater Good of god
Deja Vu
The Clairvoyant

I will collate the results later.

Note: Not so sure if I will check out the Blaze albums or not. I enjoyed the live versions of the Blaze era songs (with Bruce) on the Best Of but when I checked out the studio versions they sounded like all the life had been sucked out of them.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 13, 2015, 11:41:03 PM: I think you may be cured Brent
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Post by: bl5150 on June 14, 2015, 01:25:09 AM: Iron Maiden Results as follows:

We got a good sample of best album rankings and a result that surprised me a little

1. Piece Of Mind
2. The Number Of The Beast
3. Somewhere In Time
4. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
5. Powerslave

Numbers 4 & 5 were a tie on points but I gave it to SSOASS as it had a No 1 ranking where as Powerslave did not.

We only had 3 people including me submit Top 10 songs , so the sample isn't really enough to go off but there were only 2 songs that got more than one mention:

Stranger In A Strange Land
The Reincarnation of Benjamin Breeg (both by me and bosk1)
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Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2015, 03:48:05 AM: Totally missed this for some reason, have been a bit busy the last few days, apologies.

I don't think you'd really dig the Blaze albums much Brent from your writeups, but they are interesting and great albums IMO.

I must say, I find the mentions of Benjamin from you are bosk interesting. That was one that never ever really grabbed me and definitely wouldn't be a fav of mine from that album. It's still a good song though. That's the thing with Maiden as you said, even their average songs based on the rest of their work are still really good songs in their own right.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 14, 2015, 07:34:11 AM: This week's feature band is..............

(https://www.metal-rules.com/metalnews/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/wasp_logo_3.jpg)

This is one band where I can do my lists without listening too much ,but I will use this week as a good excuse to check out their later albums that I have neglected. While they are an all time favourite of mine I lost interest around the time of Still Not Black Enough and not much of what I checked out from there suggested that I was missing too much.

They have a new album Golgotha due within a couple of months.

So anyone with some album rankings (Top 5's or as many as you can) and Top Ten Songs..........fire away.

BTW ......fwiw I am told that the 2015 hi res 24 bit remasters of (much of) the Iron Maiden catalogue sound fantastic.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 14, 2015, 12:10:26 PM: WASP is an awesome band, but I'm mostly just familiar with the first five albums

I'll think about the top ten songs, but top five albums would be

1) s/t ( one of the defining 80s metal albums)
2) Headless Children
3) Inside the Electric Circus
4) Crimson Idol
5) Last Command
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Post by: TAC on June 14, 2015, 01:09:52 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 13, 2015, 11:18:37 PM
I usually put very little thought into rating music
Yeah, apparently! ;D

j/k
Couldn't resist. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2015, 03:22:11 PM: One of my all time favourite bands. I'm really looking forward to the new one. I'm pretty much a WASP fanboy as I rate all of their work. Top 5 albums;

1. The Crimson Idol
2. WASP
3. The Headless Children
4. KFD
5. Dying For the World

Might come back to the top 10 songs, that might be a bit tough.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 14, 2015, 03:32:14 PM: top 10 songs

1) Wild Child
2) Animal
3) On Your Knees
4) Tormentor
5) Headless Children
6) Chainsaw Charlie
7) Restless Gypsy
8) 95 Nasty
9) Mean Man
10) I Wanna Be Somebody
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Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2015, 03:33:58 PM: That's actually quite an amazing top 10.

Restless Gypsy will make my list too, so underrated.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 14, 2015, 03:37:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 14, 2015, 03:33:58 PM
That's actually quite an amazing top 10.

Restless Gypsy will make my list too, so underrated.

Its a great power ballad.

I wonder if the gimmick held WASP back a bit? They have some amazing songs, but not very mainstream.
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Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2015, 03:49:42 PM: I feel they cop a lot of uneccesary shit. I see them get slammed as much as the likes of Winger and I never understood why, amazing band.

I think it may even be Blackie's reputation that held them back a bit, possibly.
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Post by: TAC on June 14, 2015, 05:06:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 14, 2015, 03:49:42 PM
I feel they cop a lot of uneccesary shit. I see them get slammed as much as the likes of Winger and I never understood why, amazing band.
Yeah no one deserves that!

I was only with WASP through The Electric Circus. I did buy The Headless Children, but I don't remember anything about it. I've lost touch with them and never went back. I do have the first 3 albums on my iPod. Blackie always had an awesome voice.

I remember getting the s/t on the same day as I got Armored Saint's March Of The Saint. While AS is probably a Top 10 band for me, I definitely remember giving the edge to the WASP debut. Still have my picture disc 45 of Animal.
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Post by: XB0BX on June 14, 2015, 05:26:17 PM: I can't believe this board doesn't have a Who thread. Seeing them in the fall and getting acquainted with all their stuff. The run from The Who Sell Out to Quadrophenia is amazing. Tommy is a perfect album, can't stop listening to it. So many good melodies on one album, it's unbelievable.
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Post by: TAC on June 14, 2015, 05:27:26 PM: Dude, start one!
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 14, 2015, 05:29:48 PM: That sounds like a good music day- getting the debut from WASP & Armored Saint
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Post by: TAC on June 14, 2015, 05:33:53 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 14, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
That sounds like a good music day- getting the debut from WASP & Armored Saint
What I wouldn't give to go back to 1984...
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Post by: TAC on June 14, 2015, 06:32:09 PM: So earlier tonight I was ironing my kids clothes for school for the week (very metal!) and The Lovely Mrs. TAC walks in to bring me a beer. I was cranking the new Impelliterri and We Own The Night was just starting, and Rob Rock screams "Get ready to rooooooooooock!".
My wife goes, "What are we in 1985? How old is this?" to which I replied, "About 3 months". :lol
:metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 14, 2015, 06:36:30 PM: haha
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Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2015, 07:24:35 PM: Top 10 WASP songs;

1. Still Not Black Enough
2. Wild Child
3. Chainsaw Charlie
4. Restless Gypsy
5. Rebel in the FDG
6. On Your Knees
7. The Horror
8. Skinwalker
9. My Wicked Heart
10. The Headless Children

I know number one is a crazy pick, but this one always just hit me in the right spot, I think it's brilliant and am confident that it's my number one WASP song. Being a fan of their whole discography made this really hard.

Skinwalker was on the American version of Still Not Black Enough. A couple that just missed out;

Arena of Pleasure
Tormentor
Mean Man
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Post by: KevShmev on June 14, 2015, 07:28:35 PM: Quote from: XB0BX on June 14, 2015, 05:26:17 PM
I can't believe this board doesn't have a Who thread. Seeing them in the fall and getting acquainted with all their stuff. The run from The Who Sell Out to Quadrophenia is amazing. Tommy is a perfect album, can't stop listening to it. So many good melodies on one album, it's unbelievable.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=15659.0
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Post by: bl5150 on June 14, 2015, 07:47:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 14, 2015, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 13, 2015, 11:18:37 PM
I usually put very little thought into rating music
Yeah, apparently! ;D

j/k
Couldn't resist. :lol

As I was writing that I thought "I wonder if this will get past Tim?"............No. ;D

I was actually going to make the feature band for this week Winger , but I figured we'd be covering that in your roulette so no use doubling up :)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 15, 2015, 12:24:28 AM: WASP is one of the many bands where I know and like a few songs and always plan to go deeper into their discography, but I never get around to, because there's just too much amazing music out there. I think I even have a CDR with one of their later albums which a friend gave me (after checking the internet it's Dominator), which isn't too bad.

I think WASP was one of the bands that was much bigger in America than it was in Europe (or Germany for that matter) and that may be one of the reasons why I never really got into them.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 15, 2015, 05:03:26 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 15, 2015, 12:24:28 AM
WASP is one of the many bands where I know and like a few songs and always plan to go deeper into their discography, but I never get around to, because there's just too much amazing music out there. I think I even have a CDR with one of their later albums which a friend gave me (after checking the internet it's Dominator), which isn't too bad.

I think WASP was one of the bands that was much bigger in America than it was in Europe (or Germany for that matter) and that may be one of the reasons why I never really got into them.

I think you will love some of the early stuff , especially the debut and Headless Children. Thinking back now to my high "school daze" ;D they were one of my very first metal bands on regular play. I was a fan of KISS, Van Halen, Yngwie and Ozzy already but they were among the very next. I had a dubbed tape of WASP's debut on one side and Def Leppard's Pyromania on the other that got very heavy play around that time........would've been around 1987-8 (so 13-14yo)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 15, 2015, 05:17:19 AM: I'm sure that I will like them once I get the time to listen to them and the gazillion ohter bands on my "to-listen-to" list.

In 87/88 I was 17/18 and had never really heard of WASP. It was Van Halen all the way, some Iron Maiden, some Queensryche and a lot of hair metal, and a lot of non heavy music. Ah, those were the days. :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on June 15, 2015, 05:23:36 AM: Yes they were. I was a bit the same in the late 80's/early 90's- back then it was probably 75/25 melodic rock and hair metal vs heavy metal and in recent times I have bought that much metal that it's probably 60/40 the other way.

And as for my "to listen to "list.........it's beyond ridiculous. Before I get to "the list" I have hundreds of things I've purchased/been sent that I haven't even listened to yet....most in digital format thankfully. I wouldn't be able to move through the CDs otherwise.

My name's Brent and I'm a rockaholic :)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 15, 2015, 05:47:32 AM: Hi, my name's Harry and I'm a rockaholic too ;D

For me, the metal part grew over the years as well, both in numbers of bands/albums and in terms of heaviness. The foundation was definitely laid in the second half of the 80s by listening to above mentioned bands (and some others). But the rock (and some jazz, pop, funk, blues etc. stuff) part is still there and still strong.

I have around 80 CDs and around 100 digital albums I bought over the last few years that I have yet to listen to more than once. And when I'm done with them I'm sure I have another shitload of music before even starting with the list. Such is the fate of the real rockaholics. ;)
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Post by: bl5150 on June 15, 2015, 08:04:49 AM: Would you believe that Chaz West is already gone and Red Dragon Carousel have another new singer? :biggrin:

And he's absolutely fucking awful

https://youtu.be/ok-5HzPTycQ
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 15, 2015, 10:47:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 15, 2015, 08:04:49 AM
Would you believe that Chaz West is already gone and Red Dragon Carousel have another new singer? :biggrin:

And he's absolutely fucking awful

https://youtu.be/ok-5HzPTycQ

This band needs to shut down already.

That Chaz West seemed pretty good, I wonder what happend. On second thought, who cares.
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Post by: wolfking on June 15, 2015, 03:25:11 PM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on June 15, 2015, 03:29:06 PM: Jake E Lee's post Ozzy's career sucks. Randy Rhoads died. What's Jake's excuse?
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Post by: wolfking on June 15, 2015, 03:45:04 PM: Frustrating hey, considering how friggin good he was.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 15, 2015, 04:31:51 PM: Sad.he was a huge hero of mine in the 80s. Seems a helluva long time ago. And that singer... No.

As for WASP, I bought the animal picture disc and then the first album and loved it. Wasn't so struck on the follow up or electric circus but headless children was a cracker. Then (eventually) crimson idol came along and was just awesome. Like others I lost track a bit after that until Babylon,which was really good. On checking out a couple of those missing albums they have some good stuff.
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Post by: wolfking on June 15, 2015, 04:47:01 PM: The only WASP album I'd say is below par is Helldorado. Definitely their weakest. Everything else has a lot to offer IMO.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 15, 2015, 05:22:35 PM: I am going to check out a few of the WASP albums today. Even for bands I love to death I drop off pretty quickly after a couple of real disappointments..........not very loyal ;D Did the same with Queensryche,DT, Ozzy for extended periods when it comes to new material.

This sounds like it could be interesting..........snippet from an interview with Joel Hoekstra , who has looked the goods on the Whitesnake tour.

I understand you have a new all-star side project featuring Russell Allen on vocals, Vinny Appice on drums and Tony Franklin on bass, among others. What can fans expect from this forthcoming album?

Yes, I do. Thanks! It's called Joel Hoekstra's 13. I did all of the writing...words, melodies, the whole nine yards. It's melodic hard rock that I describe as being everything from Dio'ish at its heaviest to Foreigner'ish at its lightest. It's scheduled for an October release.

Apparently features Jeff Scott Soto too.
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Post by: TAC on June 15, 2015, 05:29:34 PM: Sounds horrible! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on June 15, 2015, 05:32:30 PM: I believe Kip Winger guests too......hopefully it comes out before your roulette.
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Post by: TAC on June 15, 2015, 05:36:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 15, 2015, 05:29:34 PM
Sounds horrible! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on June 15, 2015, 05:42:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 15, 2015, 05:36:50 PM
Quote from: :TAC: on Today at 09:29:34 AM
Sounds horrible! ;D

Whoops :neverusethis:
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Post by: TAC on June 15, 2015, 06:11:15 PM: :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 15, 2015, 06:25:21 PM: Wearing it like a badge of honor Tim. :lol
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Post by: TAC on June 15, 2015, 06:28:01 PM: More like a badge of dis-honor. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 15, 2015, 09:50:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 15, 2015, 04:47:01 PM
The only WASP album I'd say is below par is Helldorado. Definitely their weakest. Everything else has a lot to offer IMO.

I listened to that one when it was a new release and I thought it was pretty weak. Damnation Angels stood out as the best track
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 15, 2015, 11:44:09 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 15, 2015, 05:22:35 PM
I am going to check out a few of the WASP albums today. Even for bands I love to death I drop off pretty quickly after a couple of real disappointments..........not very loyal ;D Did the same with Queensryche,DT, Ozzy for extended periods when it comes to new material.

This sounds like it could be interesting..........snippet from an interview with Joel Hoekstra , who has looked the goods on the Whitesnake tour.

I understand you have a new all-star side project featuring Russell Allen on vocals, Vinny Appice on drums and Tony Franklin on bass, among others. What can fans expect from this forthcoming album?

Yes, I do. Thanks! It's called Joel Hoekstra's 13. I did all of the writing...words, melodies, the whole nine yards. It's melodic hard rock that I describe as being everything from Dio'ish at its heaviest to Foreigner'ish at its lightest. It's scheduled for an October release.

Apparently features Jeff Scott Soto too.

I saw the news, but wasn't interested at all until reading this. Now I'm curious.
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Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2015, 05:34:29 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 15, 2015, 09:50:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 15, 2015, 04:47:01 PM
The only WASP album I'd say is below par is Helldorado. Definitely their weakest. Everything else has a lot to offer IMO.

I listened to that one when it was a new release and I thought it was pretty weak. Damnation Angels stood out as the best track

It's the only WASP album I haven't played to death. That is probably the best track. The title track is alright too.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 16, 2015, 09:32:29 AM: I just got through my first listen to Unholy Terror and I can't say that I feel I made a bad decision not bothering back in the day. To me it's WASP by the numbers.......like say Jack Action.....over and over. I also had a feeling of maybe Crimson Idol leftovers at times too. Anyway........solid record but for my taste it's not even close to up there with the debut , Crimson Idol or The Headless Children (magic :metal ).
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Post by: bosk1 on June 16, 2015, 09:45:01 AM: Never cared for WASP. But that Hoekstra project sounds potentially interesting.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2015, 11:09:11 AM: I agree about Unholy Terror. Not in the same league as the earlier albums
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Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2015, 03:12:41 PM: I think the older WASP albums are never really going to have the magic of the early ones, especially the debut and Children, but IMO they are still very solid and consistent, even if they are by the numbers.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 16, 2015, 05:40:40 PM: Look what I forgot I had buried in the basement!

(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/20150616_193536_zpsxnnqdtn7.jpg) (https://s583.photobucket.com/user/kingshmegland/media/20150616_193536_zpsxnnqdtn7.jpg.html)
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Post by: bl5150 on June 16, 2015, 05:43:38 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on June 16, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
Look what I forgot I had buried in the basement!

(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/20150616_193536_zpsxnnqdtn7.jpg) (https://s583.photobucket.com/user/kingshmegland/media/20150616_193536_zpsxnnqdtn7.jpg.html)

That wasn't too bad if I recall correct - a Chris Poland project of some description.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 16, 2015, 05:49:33 PM: Yes it was. It's been so long I don't remember the songs. I'm going to upload it on my I-Pod.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 16, 2015, 07:18:08 PM: Looks like Twisted Sister (with MP) are putting on a high energy show :tup

https://youtu.be/4o9FTAj82E8
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Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2015, 08:07:58 PM: I should check that out, I love Poland's playing.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 17, 2015, 01:50:41 AM: Damn The Machine was/is a great album, I remember playing it to death back in the day.
It was a little strange because at the time was pretty weird hearing progressive metal with no keyboards.

There was an aborted second album that never was officially released, that isn't too hard to find.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 02:46:33 AM: Looks like Deen Castronovo has fallen off the wagon again :-\

https://www.tmz.com/2015/06/16/deen-castronovo-arrested-journey-drummer-assault/
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 17, 2015, 02:49:46 AM: Oh Deen. :-\ You music so good. Why you do this?
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 17, 2015, 03:27:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 16, 2015, 07:18:08 PM
Looks like Twisted Sister (with MP) are putting on a high energy show :tup

https://youtu.be/4o9FTAj82E8

I like!
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Post by: TAC on June 17, 2015, 05:14:06 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on June 17, 2015, 01:50:41 AM
Damn The Machine was/is a great album, I remember playing it to death back in the day.
It was a little strange because at the time was pretty weird hearing progressive metal with no keyboards.

There was an aborted second album that never was officially released, that isn't too hard to find.
I remember reading good things about it, but I never took the time to check it out. I will probably do so today.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 17, 2015, 06:29:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 17, 2015, 05:14:06 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on June 17, 2015, 01:50:41 AM
Damn The Machine was/is a great album, I remember playing it to death back in the day.
It was a little strange because at the time was pretty weird hearing progressive metal with no keyboards.

There was an aborted second album that never was officially released, that isn't too hard to find.
I remember reading good things about it, but I never took the time to check it out. I will probably do so today.
Definitely check it out. I remember picking this up in college when it came out. When I heard the opener "The Mission" for the first time, I was like "Whoo hoo! This rocks!" Pretty solid album. I never knew there was even an attempt at a 2nd album. Gonna have to investigate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 17, 2015, 06:53:16 AM: That CD is older than my marriage. My wife and I were dating and we rented a cottage near the NH lakes and we took a trip to a small record store and I saw the Damn The Machine album and bought it right away.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 06:53:57 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on June 17, 2015, 06:53:16 AM
That CD is older than my marriage. My wife and I were dating and we rented a cottage near the NH lakes and we took a trip to a small record store and I saw the Damn The Machine album and bought it right away.

Trying to quit were ya? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2015, 06:54:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 02:46:33 AM
Looks like Deen Castronovo has fallen off the wagon again :-\

https://www.tmz.com/2015/06/16/deen-castronovo-arrested-journey-drummer-assault/

Fuck. That Revolution Saints album was quite good too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 08:55:03 AM: The new Borealis is all over the place in terms of style and quality. I was seriously down on it after the first few tracks but from there things improved a lot. Early on especially it had that very staccato, downtuned vibe - I don't have a clue about all these new genres but perhaps djenty or metalcore would describe it. I dunno - I'll call it crap to save confusion.

But from there we had some nice ballads ,a couple of rockers that sounded like the less proggy side of SX and some more Allen/Lande style melodic rockers towards the end.

I would rate it a bit higher than the Pyramaze ,say 80% - less consistent but with higher highs and lower lows.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on June 17, 2015, 09:23:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 06:53:57 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on June 17, 2015, 06:53:16 AM
That CD is older than my marriage. My wife and I were dating and we rented a cottage near the NH lakes and we took a trip to a small record store and I saw the Damn The Machine album and bought it right away.

Trying to quit were ya? ;D

:lol

Goiong on 21 years married!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 17, 2015, 09:53:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 08:55:03 AM
I don't have a clue about all these new genres but perhaps djenty or metalcore would describe it. I dunno - I'll call it crap to save confusion.

I'll agree with you on the genre description. Though, the first two Borealis albums were straight up metal, IMO. Excellent stuff. Can't wait to see them with Evergrey in August.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2015, 03:17:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 08:55:03 AM
The new Borealis is all over the place in terms of style and quality. I was seriously down on it after the first few tracks but from there things improved a lot. Early on especially it had that very staccato, downtuned vibe - I don't have a clue about all these new genres but perhaps djenty or metalcore would describe it. I dunno - I'll call it crap to save confusion.

But from there we had some nice ballads ,a couple of rockers that sounded like the less proggy side of SX and some more Allen/Lande style melodic rockers towards the end.

I would rate it a bit higher than the Pyramaze ,say 80% - less consistent but with higher highs and lower lows.

Sounds like I should like. Will check out then.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 17, 2015, 05:55:53 PM: Metal Church!
Badlands 2015 :metal
https://bravewords.com/news/metal-church-streaming-first-new-music-with-mike-howe-in-22-years

I am so all over their new album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 07:26:25 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 17, 2015, 05:55:53 PM
Metal Church!
Badlands 2015 :metal
https://bravewords.com/news/metal-church-streaming-first-new-music-with-mike-howe-in-22-years

I am so all over their new album.

You can tell he's lost a bit of an edge off his voice ,but 25+ years will do that to you. I thought he sounded good though and looking forward to this too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 18, 2015, 12:55:48 AM: band sounds very solid to me. Mike still sounds good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 23, 2015, 01:05:03 AM: It took me while to get through all those WASP albums that I didn't have - it was a bit of a chore at times. I am quite satisfied that for the most part I made the right decision not to bother much after Still Not Black Enough but there were some good ones in there that I will spin from now on. It seems WASP has taken a similar path to DT and Queensryche in terms of my liking for new releases ............blew me away at the start , then an extended period of stuff that either doesn't do much for me or is downright crap and then coming good again to some extent in recent years.

One thing that stood out to me on many of these releases is how Blackie recycled ideas so blatantly - the brilliant variety displayed on The Headless Children has never been approached again IMHO.

The good thing from my point of view is that the sound, songwriting and Blackie's voice all seem to have made a bit of a comeback with Dominator (especially)and Babylon . So with the 6 year break to the new one coming up I can have some legitimate expectations for something really good. Fingers crossed.

I won't bother producing a summary (I want at least 4 rankings to work with) as it was just me , JJ and Kade..........all we can confirm without doubt is that those guys have taste ;D

I also found a couple of things in my collection that I have no recollection of in terms of quality - two volumes of "The Rarities" and a live album 89 & Headless. I will check them out during the week. Both official live albums - Live....In The Raw and Double Live Assassins - are top notch.

Album Rankings:

1. The Headless Children
2. W.A.S.P.
3. The Crimson Idol

4.Inside The Electric Circus
5. The Last Command
5. Dominator (TIE)
7. Babylon
8. Still Not Black Enough

9. Helldorado
10 Dying For The World
10. Unholy Terror (TIE)

12 The Neon God Pt 1
13 The Neon God Pt 2
14. KFD.......WTF?

The last album that I would consider really solid is Still Not Black Enough. At the time that was the album that lost me (same as promised Land/HITNF for Queensryche and FII for Dream Theater) but listening to it now I can see where the positives are. Having said that it's barely hard rock , let alone metal.

Top 10 Songs

I Wanna Be Somebody
B.A.D.
Sleeping
Inside The Electric Circus
The Heretic
Mean Man
Maneater
Rebel In The FDG
Arena Of Pleasure
The Idol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 23, 2015, 05:06:30 AM: Surprised to see no "wild child" in the top ten
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 23, 2015, 05:13:21 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 23, 2015, 05:06:30 AM
Surprised to see no "wild child" in the top ten

It was among a group of half a dozen songs I considered for the final spots. Back in the day The Last Command got much less play than the top 3 so maybe that has something to do with it. I was also sick of hearing the riff in a number of other songs in later albums ;D

They're a top 10 band for me , so keeping it to ten songs is always hard.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2015, 05:15:57 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 23, 2015, 01:05:03 AM
One thing that stood out to me on many of these releases is how Blackie recycled ideas so blatantly - the brilliant variety displayed on The Headless Children has never been approached again IMHO.

This is so true. WASP are probably the band that I'd say are the worst for recycling ideas, that I've heard anyway. Still love them all.

And yeah, the last two were a realy step up, looking forward to the new one. Good top ten too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 23, 2015, 05:48:17 AM: Seems like I should check out al least your top three:

1. The Headless Children
2. W.A.S.P.
3. The Crimson Idol

And I'm sure that I heard some of the songs already and what I heard I liked. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2015, 06:06:52 AM: Every heavy metal fan should check those three albums out. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 23, 2015, 06:16:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 23, 2015, 05:13:21 AM

They're a top 10 band for me , so keeping it to ten songs is always hard.
WASP is a Top 10 band for you?!?!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2015, 06:20:07 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 23, 2015, 06:16:01 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 23, 2015, 05:13:21 AM

They're a top 10 band for me , so keeping it to ten songs is always hard.
WASP is a Top 10 band for you?!?!

THey would be a top 10 band for me too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 23, 2015, 06:21:39 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 23, 2015, 06:16:01 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 23, 2015, 05:13:21 AM

They're a top 10 band for me , so keeping it to ten songs is always hard.
WASP is a Top 10 band for you?!?!

That's what I said :P

it depends on how you rate things I suppose. If I was to average out the ratings on their discography then they wouldn't be (neither would Queensryche or DT in that case either) ,but based on the enjoyment and time I spent playing those top 3 especially ,then yeah. I had Headless Children in the top 10 in my DTF Top 50 and , with the "one album per band"rule , that was effectively my favourite album from each of the bands that have been the most important to me over a lifetime.

I think WASP cop a lot of undeserved crap because of the shock rock side of things - the songs on those top 3 albums stand right up there for me. They may not have the overall songwriting chops of an Iron Maiden or DT but when it comes to enjoyment , very few bands (or voices) get me :metal like the best material from WASP.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2015, 03:31:35 PM: Well said.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 24, 2015, 01:02:18 AM: The debut from WASP is just outstanding!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 04:42:36 AM: Seriously gotta be one of the best debuts of all time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 24, 2015, 05:09:19 AM: Never did get into W.A.S.P. for some reason. Another one of those metal bands that never made it on to my radar.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 05:15:00 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 24, 2015, 05:09:19 AM
Never did get into W.A.S.P. for some reason. Another one of those metal bands that never made it on to my radar.

Have you tried any of those top 3?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 24, 2015, 05:19:15 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 05:15:00 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 24, 2015, 05:09:19 AM
Never did get into W.A.S.P. for some reason. Another one of those metal bands that never made it on to my radar.

Have you tried any of those top 3?

Nada.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 05:34:06 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 24, 2015, 05:19:15 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 05:15:00 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 24, 2015, 05:09:19 AM
Never did get into W.A.S.P. for some reason. Another one of those metal bands that never made it on to my radar.

Have you tried any of those top 3?

Nada.

Add them to your long long list my good man.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 24, 2015, 05:55:40 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 23, 2015, 06:21:39 AM
it depends on how you rate things I suppose. If I was to average out the ratings on their discography then they wouldn't be (neither would Queensryche or DT in that case either) ,but based on the enjoyment and time I spent playing those top 3 especially ,then yeah. I had Headless Children in the top 10 in my DTF Top 50 and , with the "one album per band"rule , that was effectively my favourite album from each of the bands that have been the most important to me over a lifetime.

I think WASP cop a lot of undeserved crap because of the shock rock side of things - the songs on those top 3 albums stand right up there for me. They may not have the overall songwriting chops of an Iron Maiden or DT but when it comes to enjoyment , very few bands (or voices) get me :metal like the best material from WASP.

OK, this is very interesting because this is a timely topic for me as I've been grappling with this recently. The dilemma is how would one ultimately rate a band when "most" of their material doesn't appeal to me, but the minority is some of the best material I've ever heard.

A few bands for me are Rush, Queensryche, and Metallica that I'm not sure where to rank.
If I did a Top 10 list that included these bands, I'd have to rank them as:

pre Signals Rush
pre Load Metallica
pre Promised Land Queensryche

Seems kind of strange because for Rush, that's only 10 years of a 40 year career. For Metallica that's 10 years of an almost 35 year career.
And for Queensryche, well that speaks for itself.

In totality, I don't think I could rate any of them in my Top 10, yet as Brent says: "very few bands (or voices) get me :metal like the best material from......"

How do I balance out the mediocre material from bands with longevity? Do I count it against them? How can I rate Rush in my Top 10 when I really haven't cared for much of what they've done for the past 30 years yet the run on 2112-MP is one of the most influential eras of music for me, and some of my favorite music of all time?

Another band that would make my Top 10 is Kiske era Helloween, yet Helloween (in totality) would not. I hate that I would have to qualify half of the bands on my Top 10, and if I have to do that, do they really belong in the first place?

What do you guys think?

Oh and Brent, WASP was #11 on your list, so not a Top 10 band! :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 06:08:39 AM: It's a very interesting topic and some good points there Tim. I can't really add any opinions as I've always been a completist and always found something to enjoy about all of my fav bands material. I don't think I can think of any top bands of mine that I can't get enjoyment out of their entire discography;

WASP - Love pretty much everything they have done
Maiden - Again, even love the hated and less popular eras more
Priest - Again, see above - Would prefer the 80's - Painkiller but an obscure one is my fav
Sabbath - Again, see above, Tony Martin stuff would be my most listened too
Malmsteen - Like all his work, except the last one which was crap
Helloween/Gamma Ray - Yep, again like most of what they have done
Savatage - Again, like everything
In Flames - Yeah, I guess I'm a fanboy when it comes to my bands.

So, not much valid input for me. Although Rush does spring to mind too. I don't think they would be a top 10, but mine would be their 80's stuff. I love those album so much but honestly never really got into their late stuff or the early stuff, but like the synth stuff so much they would almost be a top 10.

So yeah, I can see what you're saying, but I don't think it's an issue. Even though I'll follow a band top to bottom, I'm not gonna question someone for not liking a certain era. Like yourself, I'd never question your love for Helloween just cause you're only into the Kiske stuff, I don't think anyone has a right to do that. You saw them back in the day and have a special connection with that era. I've seen the current lineup so have more of a connection with the later stuff, but still enjoy the early stuff. It's all good.

People bashing the Blaze era Maiden I kinda understand and would never question their love for 80's Maiden. If a certain period is so damn perfect, it can't be ignored.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 24, 2015, 06:12:59 AM: Yeah, there are bands like UFO and Michael Schenker that have put out some dredge, but they remain favorites of mine, and I can overlook some of the shit. I'm a lot closer to them I guess for personal reasons.

The Blaze era was such a blip on the screen of Maiden's career, but what if they continued with Blaze and there was no Reunion era? How much should I weight 80's Maiden if everything they did with Blaze was not so great?

Quote from: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 06:08:39 AM
If a certain period is so damn perfect, it can't be ignored.
That's a great point.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 24, 2015, 06:25:15 AM: I have put some thought into this sort of stuff too and especially when it came to my Top 50 ........I am sure The Headless Children was in my top 10 at one point but I switched things in and out so many times. Having said that (see below) I am comfortable now that WASP is a top ten band for me.

It is amazing how many bands have produced such highs and lows within a career. Bands like Van Halen that made some of my all time favourites AND (Cherone experiment aside) never really produced anything I hate across more than a decade are few and far between.

Funnily enough I raised this topic while talking about WASP ,but now I come to think of it ,a couple of bands inside the Top 10 have even less albums that I truly love than WASP. So this
Quote from: bl5150 on June 23, 2015, 06:21:39 AM
If I was to average out the ratings on their discography then they wouldn't be

, although likely correct in principle, would apply even more to others in my top 10. DT got number two almost solely on the strength of Images and Words .....in that case I justified it by telling myself it was , in the end, a Top 50 ALBUMS list , even though ranking bands was a part of it for me when it came down to separating the cream of the crop where I was unsure. If I was stacking up whole catalogues DT would be fighting to make my top 10 and could well rank lower than WASP.

So when I think of my favourite bands I try to focus on the enjoyment I got from the albums I love and apply some lesser weighting to the quantity of good albums they had. The number of shockers really doesn't come into it as , in most cases , I never owned them . Even so, DT and Queensryche both have some of the least favourite albums in my collection despite being "top tenners" in my DTF album list.

Confusing................... :-\

If I were to somehow have a way of determining "most played bands" across my life the winner could well be Ozzy Osbourne. Blizzard, Diary, BATM, Ultimate Sin, No Rest For The Wicked,No More Tears....... :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 24, 2015, 07:32:59 AM: Guys, you're putting much too much thought into this. :biggrin:

It's nice to try and find a definite ranking and base it on mathematical numbers and percentages. But for me this will never work, there's too much gut involved when liking (or disliking) a band. And there's too much change because of that. I can name you at least twenty bands that are top 10 material. I could even rank them after giving it some thought but the next hour/day/month would produce a different ranking.

Even if I would never listen to and buy new music the ranking would change constantly. One day Van Halen would be on top, the next day Dream Theater and maybe a week later Dire Straits or Toto or Maiden or .... It's all just the feeling of the moment.

And because of this I would rank some bands higher that have a very uneven catalogue than some bands that are relatively even in quality. If the bands with the uneven quality have really grabbed me with their best output (like Queensryche for instance) my gut, feeling, whatever tells me to rank them high.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 24, 2015, 07:44:44 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 24, 2015, 07:32:59 AM
Guys, you're putting much too much thought into this. :biggrin:

You realise where you are , right? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 24, 2015, 07:56:08 AM: Yeah and it was only half meant in fun.

Even though I don't have a definite ranking/rating system I think about rankings and ratings all the time and I analyse why band x is better than band y and if it is so, why don't I listen to them more often etc. etc. And I can't count the number of times when I started to give out ratings, only to come to the realization that I really can't do it in a way that the ratings are cohesive and comparable. And even though I know it's impossible for me, I will probably start again some time in the future.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 24, 2015, 07:56:42 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 24, 2015, 07:32:59 AM
Guys, you're putting much too much thought into this. :biggrin:

It's nice to try and find a definite ranking and base it on mathematical numbers and percentages. But for me this will never work, there's too much gut involved when liking (or disliking) a band. And there's too much change because of that. I can name you at least twenty bands that are top 10 material. I could even rank them after giving it some thought but the next hour/day/month would produce a different ranking.

Even if I would never listen to and buy new music the ranking would change constantly. One day Van Halen would be on top, the next day Dream Theater and maybe a week later Dire Straits or Toto or Maiden or .... It's all just the feeling of the moment.

And because of this I would rank some bands higher that have a very uneven catalogue than some bands that are relatively even in quality. If the bands with the uneven quality have really grabbed me with their best output (like Queensryche for instance) my gut, feeling, whatever tells me to rank them high.
I can guarantee a week later it would never be Dire Straits or Toto. ;D

Yeah, K, there is too much thought here, but I like to hear how guys come up with their Top 10 Bands, as when I do mine, I find a lot of them are compromised by long periods of suckage. Just was really seeing how others weight these kinds of situations.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 24, 2015, 08:08:44 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 24, 2015, 07:56:42 AM

I can guarantee a week later it would never be Dire Straits or Toto. ;D

And this is where you are wrong ;D

Maybe I have the advantage that out of my top ten bands there are very few that have long periods of sub-par or even shit material. Queensryche being the one exception. Some have mediocre albums like the Maiden-Blaze or the VH-Cherone disc, but most of my favorites are very consistent, like Dire Straits or Toto :angel:

Metallica was never a top ten band to me, too much filler from the beginning, and I like Load a lot. The shit began with St. Anger.
Rush is nice but not top material for me. Dream Theater went down a bit with SC and BC&SL but returned to glory with the last two albums. Yes put out a lot of mediocre albums and they slowly work their way down, but I hold them still in high regard and I really liked the rabin era and the classics.

I could go on and on, but I know that this is highly subjective and therefore highly debatable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 24, 2015, 10:07:38 AM: So one of the reasons that I was thinking about this "Ranking" issue is that I've been on a Metallica kick as of late.
Great band.

I recently ordered 3 shows from Live Metallica (Great thing!) and have been listening to a ton of live stuff from the last half dozen years.
Obviously they play a ton of Classic material, and it is surely frustrating about the lack of quality material released over the last 20 years.
Personally I LOVED Death Magnetic. Yeah, it does sound iffy, but I think the songs are very cool, especially hearing the live versions.

I know it's a thing to criticize Lars and Kirk. Sure they can be a little sloppy, but a lot of it seems like its just fucking around, especially in Lars' case. And I cannot knock Kirk because I think he is literally one of the coolest cats in metal.

Load/Reload, and St. Anger are really drop offs for me. I'm actually thinking of ordering what live tracks there are from St. Anger and making a CD of that. And I can make an EP of 6 GREAT songs from the Load/Reload sessions. Not that I want to turn this into a discussion of latter day Metallica output...ok maybe I just did...

But I keep asking myself, where and how do I rank Metallica on my Top 10 list. I don't have the deep personal connection that I do to my Top 5, but they have been huge in my musical life, especially up until TBA, which I now hold as an absolute classic. So at the end of the day, they made 8 albums, blipped out on 3 of them, but I absolutely love 5 of them. So I guess they belong. They still kill it live, and I must say, I am so impressed with James as a frontman. But the lack of consistent new material sucks.

Anyway, that's my Metalliramble.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 24, 2015, 12:55:50 PM: And James is one of the absolute best riff inventers and rhythm guitar players in metal. :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 24, 2015, 01:06:50 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 24, 2015, 12:55:50 PM
And James is one of the absolute best riff inventers and rhythm guitar players in metal. :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Yeah absolutely. Not something you say everyday, but James Hetfield is one of the most important figures in Hard Rock/Metal..ever.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 24, 2015, 02:11:36 PM: I would be in the same boat with trying to rank my favourite bands - to qualify they would have had to have been around for a decent amount of time, but that increases the chances of some albums I don't care for, and it would undoubtedly include those same bands already listed.

If Asked, I would consider the following my favourite bands

DT (who I consider my favourite band even though Systematic Chaos happened and some albums have challenged me a bit)
Rush who's output between Power Windows and up to the latest album was patchy at best and complete shite at worst.
Queensryche. Don't need to say anymore do I?
KISS. Love everything up to Hot In The Shade. That's nearly 30 years with little of note since, Revenge aside.
Yngwie- I've not enjoyed much since the Concerto Suite.
Bon Jovi and Def Leppard, but only up until the early 90s
Judas Priest up until Painkiller
Gary Moore. Some iffy early albums and after the first couple of blues albums things went very poor.

I do like some newer bands but I don't have that same LOVE for them as those I grew up with.
I really can't think of any band with any longevity where I love everything they've ever done.
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Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 03:20:35 PM: Gary Moore's 80's run was incredible.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 24, 2015, 03:52:23 PM: Indeed it was a great run.
I was gutted when he dumped the hard rock and switched to the blues.
The Live In Sweden set was brilliant still waiting for that to be officially released on DVD/BR.

The Loner was one of the first songs I learned to play on guitar and still such a powerful emotional song for me.
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Post by: TAC on June 24, 2015, 03:58:23 PM: What is the Live In Sweden set? Is it similar to the Live At Montreaux?

I LOVE Gary Moore. If I could have a dream band, he'd be one of my guitarists (along with Michael Schenker).
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Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 04:38:19 PM: Yeah, I'm not familiar with this Sweden set either.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 24, 2015, 04:43:02 PM: I think only released on VHS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_in_Stockholm:_Wild_Frontier_Tour

Great version of The Loner
https://youtu.be/-G-PtmcPyK0
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Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 04:45:13 PM: :facepalm: How stupid of me, I have an unofficial DVD of that one, had a brain fart there.

Yes, probably the best live concert from Gary. Teriffic performances, and the band are just on fire with so much energy. I think a lot of the live versions can be found in audio form on the 2CD best of called Out in the Fields.

The version of Thunder Rising is amazing.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 24, 2015, 04:54:50 PM: The official VHS and unofficial DVD still don't contain the full show.
I hope the full show gets a proper release someday.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 24, 2015, 04:57:05 PM: A great cover of The Loner from Europe
https://youtu.be/EyPTIYkDD4s
Norum pretty much nails it, granted with the aid of his wah wah pedal.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 25, 2015, 12:05:12 AM: Gary Moore was great. I love his 80s hardrock albums, Over The Hills being my favorite and The Loner is a top instrumental ballad, although he recycled a bit of Parisienne Walkways. His first blues album was also killer because it was mostly high energy blues more in the vein of his hardrock albums than "real" blues. After that it got a bit patchy and I haven't listened to all he put out.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 12:08:38 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 25, 2015, 12:05:12 AM
Gary Moore was great. I love his 80s hardrock albums, Over The Hills being my favorite and The Loner is a top instrumental ballad, although he recycled a bit of Parisienne Walkways. His first blues album was also killer because it was mostly high energy blues more in the vein of his hardrock albums than "real" blues. After that it got a bit patchy and I haven't listened to all he put out.

Just about the same for me. Enjoyed all his rock stuff , especially Corridors and Wild Frontier (although I don't rate After The War near as high as most) and the first blues album - lost track after that.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 25, 2015, 12:46:11 AM: Pro shot from the After the War tour, sound isn't the best, but great show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5L426SaDzQ
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Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2015, 05:12:43 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on June 24, 2015, 04:54:50 PM
The official VHS and unofficial DVD still don't contain the full show.

I didn't know that, but always thought it was a short concert.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 25, 2015, 05:36:36 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 12:08:38 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 25, 2015, 12:05:12 AM
Gary Moore was great. I love his 80s hardrock albums, Over The Hills being my favorite and The Loner is a top instrumental ballad, although he recycled a bit of Parisienne Walkways. His first blues album was also killer because it was mostly high energy blues more in the vein of his hardrock albums than "real" blues. After that it got a bit patchy and I haven't listened to all he put out.

Just about the same for me. Enjoyed all his rock stuff , especially Corridors and Wild Frontier (although I don't rate After The War near as high as most) and the first blues album - lost track after that.

I'm with you Brent. ATW was poor for me after the excellent Wild Frontier. I enjoyed the first 2 blues albums but it got old fast from there and I didn't bother with much after that. I did buy the Different Beat album and that was a huge pile of shite.
Live he was always great. I've probably seen him live more than any other band and he was one of my first gigs.
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Post by: TAC on June 25, 2015, 05:48:50 AM: A Different Beat was as bad of an album that I have ever bought in my life. Wow does that suck!

However, I would absolutely take After The War over Wild Frontier. It rocks way harder. Wild Frontier has a couple great tunes though. I will say that it has aged very well. I wasn't nuts about it in 1987. Saw him in Providence on that tour. There's a great FM show from Boston which is incredible.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 08:59:44 AM: The new Virgin Steele is just okay IMHO. And some of the stuff Defeis does with his voice these days would be at home on an album called Live From The Sydney Mardi Gras.

There are some short lived great moments and the first 4 full length tracks ( numbers 1-5 minus a short interlude) are a decent return to the more metallic edge of earlier albums, but from there I mostly found it a bit of a snooze. They've always been a bit of a "compilation band" for me (plenty of filler on most albums) and to me this is no exception.

It is getting good reviews though ,so for long term fans ....perhaps just try and get a listen first. I would rate it around 75% and that's probably a bit generous.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 25, 2015, 01:08:13 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2015, 05:48:50 AM
A Different Beat was as bad of an album that I have ever bought in my life. Wow does that suck!

However, I would absolutely take After The War over Wild Frontier. It rocks way harder. Wild Frontier has a couple great tunes though. I will say that it has aged very well. I wasn't nuts about it in 1987. Saw him in Providence on that tour. There's a great FM show from Boston which is incredible.

The title track is great, the instrumentals excellent, I don't mind Ready For Love but after that it's a poor album for me. And Led Clones? Having a go at the zep clone bands by playing a Kashmir clone? Er ok.

Edit. Just realised I omitted the mighty Blood of Emeralds, another tick in the excellent box. still a poor album though.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 25, 2015, 02:05:57 PM: Wild Frontier is my Gary Moore classic album, despite different producers, drum machine, cover songs, it stands the test of time for me.
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Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2015, 04:31:02 PM: I will still check out that Virgin Steele, I like what I've heard, but yeah, as expected, I'm not expecting anything groundbreking.

Wild Frontier is excellent but I don't know if it's my copy but some of the songs seem to increase in volume as the song goes on. like Over the Hills and Thunder Rising start very quiet but by the end it's quite loud. Has anyone else noticed this? It's always dampened my liking for the album and I've normally always stuck to live versions because of this.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 25, 2015, 04:55:23 PM: I had the original LP and CD pressing, currently the Japanese remaster and I have never noticed any increase in volume.
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Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2015, 05:35:38 PM: Maybe it's just the remastered version then.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 07:17:46 PM: Funny you mention Thunder Rising - to me that was always quieter than the rest of the album. I had the first CD pressing.
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Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2015, 07:24:36 PM: I just checked my version of those two songs and yeah, they both start off very quiet and finish a lot louder. I might put them in cool edit and see and post the wave, it should show what I'm talking about.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 07:34:36 PM: I probably wasn't paying enough attention but I always accounted for the opener as just being a form of fade in , but Thunder Rising really stood out in the middle of the album as I always turned the volume up.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 08:33:02 PM: (https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10351377_899472006775518_1704893061618281898_n.jpg?oh=e59bb6c05611ec0866812f1edcc89f54&oe=561B69BD)

Win big.........mama's fallen angel :metal ;D

Nice cover art for the upcoming album.

And until Paul prompted me in the album thread I had almost forgotten how much I was into early Firehouse. Spinning the debut now and stuff like Overnight Sensation , Helpless are bringing back lots of memories. Reach For The Sky off the next one was a killer too.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 25, 2015, 09:22:31 PM: Reach For The Sky is at least 50% pretty darn good, don't like the rest of it though. Never got into anything other than that album.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 09:26:00 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 25, 2015, 09:22:31 PM
Reach For The Sky is at least 50% pretty darn good, don't like the rest of it though. Never got into anything other than that album.

if you're referring to the album it was called Hold Your Fire - I really liked the title track too but it was a bit patchy overall. The debut is cheesy but very strong otherwise and it's been a cool listen after a long break.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 25, 2015, 10:06:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 25, 2015, 09:22:31 PM
Reach For The Sky is at least 50% pretty darn good, don't like the rest of it though. Never got into anything other than that album.

if you're referring to the album it was called Hold Your Fire - I really liked the title track too but it was a bit patchy overall. The debut is cheesy but very strong otherwise and it's been a cool listen after a long break.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Just woke up when I wrote that. :biggrin:
I found the first half of the album quite strong, then it fizzles out towards the end. And the ones I don't like in the first half are a couple of the softer ones.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 25, 2015, 10:19:15 PM: Agree with Blob. Hold Your Fire is 1/2 killer, 1/2 dud. I only just went back and discovered 3 and Category 5. Both solid albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 10:22:53 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 25, 2015, 10:19:15 PM
Agree with Blob. Hold Your Fire is 1/2 killer, 1/2 dud.

I agree too - my original comments were about the debut self-titled which - if you can stand the cheese- is the best of the lot IMHO.

Listening to I&W now for the first time in a while. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :)
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 26, 2015, 01:26:28 AM: The debut from Firehouse is awesome from beginning to end. On Hold Your Fire, I really liked Reach for the Sky but didn't care for anything else on the whole disc.

That Stryper album cover is fantastic.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 26, 2015, 04:12:40 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 07:17:46 PM
Funny you mention Thunder Rising - to me that was always quieter than the rest of the album. I had the first CD pressing.

I have the first pressing too and Thunder Rising is certainly quieter than the rest of the album but that is the only track that I've noticed.
I spent a very enjoyable evening last night watching Gary Moore live videos on Youtube. I miss him, especially as he was supposed to be working on some more lizzy style / Celtic rock tracks before his passing.

As for Firehouse, I love half of the first album, most of the 2nd but after that there's not much worth listening to for me.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 26, 2015, 04:16:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 10:22:53 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 25, 2015, 10:19:15 PM
Agree with Blob. Hold Your Fire is 1/2 killer, 1/2 dud.

I agree too - my original comments were about the debut self-titled which - if you can stand the cheese- is the best of the lot IMHO.

Listening to I&W now for the first time in a while. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :)

Got it on in the car at the moment. Never fails to disappoint. I love that its not all metal riffing. And James is just awesome. :hefdaddy
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Post by: bl5150 on June 26, 2015, 04:17:34 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 26, 2015, 04:12:40 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 07:17:46 PM
Funny you mention Thunder Rising - to me that was always quieter than the rest of the album. I had the first CD pressing.

I have the first pressing too and Thunder Rising is certainly quieter than the rest of the album but that is the only track that I've noticed.
I spent a very enjoyable evening last night watching Gary Moore live videos on Youtube. I miss him, especially as he was supposed to be working on some more lizzy style / Celtic rock tracks before his passing.

As for Firehouse, I love half of the first album, most of the 2nd but after that there's not much worth listening to for me.

Ditto the above pretty much.

As far as Firehouse goes I bought 3 and that was it - decent laid back album but they lost their mojo and never managed to get it back , even though they tried. Still a great live band from all reports.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 26, 2015, 04:21:01 AM: Ive seen Firehouse live too. By the numbers, but pretty good.
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Post by: TAC on June 26, 2015, 09:34:47 AM: I miss Gary Moore too.
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Post by: LudwigVan on June 26, 2015, 10:08:42 AM: Led Zeppelin is my #1 favorite band, but I never owned a Robert Plant album.

Woops. Meant to post in the 80s classic albums thread lol
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Post by: Lowdz on June 26, 2015, 02:04:35 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 26, 2015, 04:16:03 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 10:22:53 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 25, 2015, 10:19:15 PM
Agree with Blob. Hold Your Fire is 1/2 killer, 1/2 dud.

I agree too - my original comments were about the debut self-titled which - if you can stand the cheese- is the best of the lot IMHO.

Listening to I&W now for the first time in a while. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :)

Got it on in the car at the moment. Never fails to disappoint. I love that its not all metal riffing. And James is just awesome. :hefdaddy

I'm getting a bit worried about the old brain. Yesterday I mixed up Firehouse with Harem Scarem and today I say I&W never fails to disappoint. What I meant was, never fails to impress, obviously. Think I need a holiday.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 26, 2015, 02:06:13 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 26, 2015, 04:21:01 AM
Ive seen Firehouse live too. By the numbers, but pretty good.

Saw them at fire fest a few years a go and they were excellent despite the crap sound. There are some great riffs on those first two albums. Then it just... Went.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 26, 2015, 02:08:17 PM: I've only heard a handful of songs from firehouse outside of the first two albums and I definitely wasn't impressed.
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Post by: wolfking on June 26, 2015, 04:01:34 PM: I have one Firehouse album, but it didn't do anything for me.
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Post by: LudwigVan on June 26, 2015, 04:12:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 24, 2015, 10:07:38 AM
So one of the reasons that I was thinking about this "Ranking" issue is that I've been on a Metallica kick as of late.
Great band.

I recently ordered 3 shows from Live Metallica (Great thing!) and have been listening to a ton of live stuff from the last half dozen years.
Obviously they play a ton of Classic material, and it is surely frustrating about the lack of quality material released over the last 20 years.
Personally I LOVED Death Magnetic. Yeah, it does sound iffy, but I think the songs are very cool, especially hearing the live versions.

I know it's a thing to criticize Lars and Kirk. Sure they can be a little sloppy, but a lot of it seems like its just fucking around, especially in Lars' case. And I cannot knock Kirk because I think he is literally one of the coolest cats in metal.

Load/Reload, and St. Anger are really drop offs for me. I'm actually thinking of ordering what live tracks there are from St. Anger and making a CD of that. And I can make an EP of 6 GREAT songs from the Load/Reload sessions. Not that I want to turn this into a discussion of latter day Metallica output...ok maybe I just did...

But I keep asking myself, where and how do I rank Metallica on my Top 10 list. I don't have the deep personal connection that I do to my Top 5, but they have been huge in my musical life, especially up until TBA, which I now hold as an absolute classic. So at the end of the day, they made 8 albums, blipped out on 3 of them, but I absolutely love 5 of them. So I guess they belong. They still kill it live, and I must say, I am so impressed with James as a frontman. But the lack of consistent new material sucks.

Anyway, that's my Metalliramble.

Tim I'm with you on Metallica. I was on board since they released RTL and now when I listen to those albums 30 years later, I find myself thinking: how did they do that? It was magic.

I think I like DM a little less than you do, and Load a lot more than you do. I was certainly disappointed in the turn to "Alternica" when Load first came out, but listening to it now, I think it stands up extremely well. I love it.

What did you think of the Beyond Magnetic EP?
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Post by: bl5150 on June 27, 2015, 07:35:56 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CVRe8lns3xc

Wait for it......
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Post by: TAC on June 27, 2015, 07:43:32 PM: Nice, but I thought you were going to show us this one!
My wife and I found it and it might be the funniest thing I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhQK-6iI7cI
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Post by: TAC on June 27, 2015, 07:54:57 PM: Gord, I'm going to give Load a listen before I respond.
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Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2015, 03:35:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 27, 2015, 07:35:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CVRe8lns3xc

Wait for it......

Impressive vocals.

Quote from: TAC on June 27, 2015, 07:43:32 PM
Nice, but I thought you were going to show us this one!
My wife and I found it and it might be the funniest thing I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhQK-6iI7cI

WOW.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 28, 2015, 07:37:52 AM: Pure comedy
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Post by: bl5150 on June 28, 2015, 09:28:33 PM: Sorry I didn't get a band topic up for last week - for this week I want your Top 10 Live albums

(https://www.jaymiescotto.com/corp/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Logo-LIVE-Red-PNG.png)

:P

You can do the band Live too if you really like :) , but I'm after your best live in concert audio releases. Live albums have played a minimal part in my listening over the years , with a couple of big exceptions. Rare bootlegs and radio shows aside , I can't imagine that I have more than 20 (official) live albums all up. So my selection won't be from a huge group. There's a few that I know will be making an appearance in your lists (UFO/Iron Maiden for example) but I'll be interested to perhaps discover a few I might check out.

Fire away.................I will check out my collection and post later in the week. Obviously try and keep the bands at least loosely in line with the thread topic.
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Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2015, 09:40:12 PM: I was like WTF when I saw the Live logo. :lol

ALbum rankings;

Secret Samhadi
Throwing Copper
The Turn
The Distance To Here
V
Birds of Pray
Mental Jewelry
Songs From Black Mountain

Cracker band, possibly my fav mainstream band back in the 90's. The new one last year with the new singer was a ripper.

Back to the topic now;

I've only come to appreciate live albums in the last few years actually. It was always studio albums and DVD's for me. Now I've gone off DVD's and found new love for live albums. I'd probably go;

1. Iron Maiden - Live After Death
2. Iced Earth - Alive in Athens
3. Iron Maiden - Rock in Rio
4. Dream Theater - Live Scenes From New York
5. Gamma Ray - Skeletons in the Closet
6. Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East
7. WASP - Double Live Assassins
8. Dokken - Beast From the East
9. Ozzy - Tribute
10. Black Sabbath - Live Evil

That should cover it.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 28, 2015, 09:46:51 PM: Nice list.......there's a few in there that will make my list I think. I have Alive In Athens - someone must have recommended it to me - but can't remember ever listening to it. :-\
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Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2015, 09:54:20 PM: It got me into IE, it's amazing and I'd still take that over a lot of the studio albums.

The WASP is a toss up between DLA and In the Raw, but Assassins is a great sounding live album and I appreciate the setlist. If it only had Sleeping, it would be just about perfect IMO.

The Gamma Ray was always just a favourite too. Probably lots of overdubs but again, a great sounding album that is a good alternate to the studio versions.

The rest are pretty standard.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 28, 2015, 11:12:38 PM: I've always loved live albums, in the 1980's I had more bootleg cassettes of Kiss than I can remember.
Then I became a bootlegger myself, recording every show I attended and even sent bands copies of my recording.
Back on track, these days I prefer the live Blu-ray discs, but always enjoy the following official and not-so-official releases:

Katatonia - Last Fair Day Gone Night
Blackmore's Night - Past Times With Good Company
Dimmu Borgir - Forces Of The Northern Night (not yet official)
Evergrey - A Night To Remember
Lemur Voice - ProgPower 1999 (bootleg)
The Poiice - Live
Tarja - Act II
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 28, 2015, 11:21:56 PM: Judas Priest- 98 Live Meltdown
Judas Priest- Unleashed in the East
Black Sabbath- Live Evil
Iron Maiden- Live After Death
Symphony X- Live on the Edge of Forever
UFO- Strangers in the Night
Saxon- Eagle has Landed
Queensryche- Live in Tokyo
Kiss- Alive
Iced Earth- Alive in Athens
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 29, 2015, 12:22:51 AM: I'm generally not big on live albums at all, preferring the more refined sound of the studio over the more raw sound of the live release.

The ones I have listened to the most would be-

Kiss Alive 3 - Kiss' music has always sounded more complete and energetic live than in the studio, and this lineup slays on everything. Kiss Alive is the classic, and those performances are all superior to their studio counterparts, but the audio is really scratchy and unpleasant in places, so I don't listen to it as much as I otherwise would.
Whitesnake - Live In The Shadow Of The Blues - Coverdale was still sounding very good here, and I like this lineup giving a more modern sound to some of the really early stuff.
Ozzy Osbourne - Randy Rhoads Tribute - I don't listen to it a lot, but it still deserves a mention because Randy Rhoads was awesome live.
AC/DC Live - Basically a best of with consistent production.
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 05:37:41 AM: I thought that live Whitesnake one sounded like shit, if it's the one I'm thinking of.
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 05:39:28 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 28, 2015, 11:21:56 PM
Judas Priest- 98 Live Meltdown
Symphony X- Live on the Edge of Forever
UFO- Strangers in the Night
Saxon- Eagle has Landed
Queensryche- Live in Tokyo

Music win right here.

That Ryche one is the concert that's featured on the remaster of the ep isn't it? Great stuff.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 29, 2015, 05:47:23 AM: When I think live, I usually think concert DVDs nowadays. But back in the day, there were a lot of great live releases with/without the accompanying video footage.

Van Halen - I prefer Right Here, Right Now over Live Without A Net. That version of One Way to Rock, as well as Give to Live give me chills every time
AC/DC - AC/DC Live (1992). Great collection of their best stuff up to that point... which really, is their best stuff
Ozzy - Live & Loud
Maiden - Live After Death
Kiss - Alive... all three of them are good, but the original is often imitated, never duplicated (to steal a line from Paul Ellering)
Triumph - Stages
Tesla - Five Man Acoustical Jam... one of the innovators of the 'unplugged' fad.
Rush - A Show of Hands. Man, this got a lot of play on VHS.
Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band - Live '75-'85. So many great classics here.
Page/Plant - UnLedded
Pink Floyd - A Delicate Sound of Thunder. Ok, I'm going beyond the boundaries of 'hard rock' and 'classic metal', but this was an '80s standout when it comes to live albums
Supertramp - Live in Paris ... ditto.
Queensryche - Operation:Livecrime
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 29, 2015, 06:07:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 05:37:41 AM
I thought that live Whitesnake one sounded like shit, if it's the one I'm thinking of.

Then it's not the one you're thinking of.

Quote from: jingle.boy on June 29, 2015, 05:47:23 AM
Van Halen - I prefer Right Here, Right Now over Live Without A Net. That version of One Way to Rock, as well as Give to Live give me chills every time

That version of One Way to Rock is the definitive version to me, and the rest of the live album is really good too (I don't care that pretty much none of it is live). I still prefer the studio versions in pretty much every other though, so I don't listen to it too often any more.
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 06:11:41 AM: Excellent list Chad. Can't believe I forgot Operation: Livecrime, what a performance. A Show of Hands just missed out for me too.

Blob, I'll have to have a look through my collection. There was one that the performances were great but I remember the production being crap. I'll sus it out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2015, 06:33:52 AM: I forgot Operation Livecrime too. That's top ten.

Show of Hands is excellent
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Post by: bl5150 on June 29, 2015, 06:35:05 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 29, 2015, 06:33:52 AM
I forgot Operation Livecrime too. That's top ten.

So what goes out JJ? Nice list there too - Chad seems to be having trouble with the brief though ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2015, 06:59:15 AM: For your list sake Brent, Kiss would be out
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 29, 2015, 07:27:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 29, 2015, 06:35:05 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 29, 2015, 06:33:52 AM
I forgot Operation Livecrime too. That's top ten.

So what goes out JJ? Nice list there too - Chad seems to be having trouble with the brief though ;D

With the Canadian conversion, I figured I should do a top 13.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 29, 2015, 07:33:00 AM: It's okay - there were only 9 or 10 hard rock/metal albums in there anyway :neverusethis:

I will have to look around and see if I have Stages............I know I have a special radio broadcast of Rik Emmett live but not sure about Triumph. As far as VH goes......you know what a fanboy I am but I wasn't too rapt in Right Here , Right Now. For me Live Without A Net (even as an audio rip) kills it.
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Post by: TAC on June 29, 2015, 01:21:34 PM: UFO-Strangers In The Night
Dream Theater-Live Scenes From New York
Rainbow-On Stage
Kiss-Alive
Iced Earth-Alive In Athens
Black Sabbath (Heaven & Hell)- Neon Knights Live In Europe
Thin Lizzy-BBC Concert 1983 (Reading '83)
Iron Maiden-Death On The Road
AC/DC-If You Want Blood, You've Got It
Gary Moore-Blues Alive
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2015, 01:35:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 29, 2015, 01:21:34 PM
UFO-Strangers In The Night
Dream Theater-Live Scenes From New York
Rainbow-On Stage
Kiss-Alive
Iced Earth-Alive In Athens
Black Sabbath (Heaven & Hell)- Neon Knights Live In Europe
Thin Lizzy-BBC Concert 1983 (Reading '83)
Iron Maiden-Death On The Road
AC/DC-If You Want Blood, You've Got It
Gary Moore-Blues Alive

good call on Neon Knights Live in Europe!! What an amazing final live album from RJD
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Post by: TAC on June 29, 2015, 01:56:08 PM: Yeah it's incredible and should not be overlooked. The band was on fire and Dio gives an absolutely wicked performance.
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Post by: Deathless on June 29, 2015, 02:05:04 PM: So... Frontiers posted snippets from Geoff Tate's new Operation Mindcrime album.

"The Key" will be released September 18th.

The Key Samples (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOEL6Ic1XsI)
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 29, 2015, 02:31:19 PM: Quote from: Deathless on June 29, 2015, 02:05:04 PM
So... Frontiers posted snippets from Geoff Tate's new Operation Mindcrime album.

"The Key" will be released September 18th.

The Key Samples (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOEL6Ic1XsI)

Get that shit out of here!!! Tate's music is neither Hard Rock, or Classic (anymore). I won't fall prey to this click-bait. Tate is on Tolkki level of 'I-refuse-to-waste-my-time-on-his-shit-anymore'.
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 03:39:50 PM: :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2015, 04:06:58 PM: LOL
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Post by: bl5150 on June 29, 2015, 05:56:35 PM: To be fair there sounds like one pretty good track there at least - and that critter on his scone seems well looked after.
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 05:58:58 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 29, 2015, 05:56:35 PM
To be fair there sounds like one pretty good track there at least - and that critter on his scone seems well looked after.

:lol
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Post by: LudwigVan on June 29, 2015, 06:53:42 PM: Deep Purple - Made in Japan
Scorpions - Tokyo Tapes
Wishbone Ash - Live Dates
Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains the Same
UFO - Strangers in the Night
Genesis - Seconds Out
ELP - Pictures At an Exhibition
Jethro Tull - Bursting Out
Jimi Hendrix - Band of Gypsies
Lynyrd Skynyrd - One More From the Road
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Post by: TAC on June 29, 2015, 07:02:06 PM: Quote from: LudwigVan on June 29, 2015, 06:53:42 PM
Deep Purple - Made in Japan
Scorpions - Tokyo Tapes
Wishbone Ash - Live Dates
Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains the Same
UFO - Strangers in the Night
Genesis - Seconds Out
ELP - Pictures At an Exhibition
Jethro Tull - Bursting Out
Jimi Hendrix - Band of Gypsies
Lynyrd Skynyrd - One More From the Road
Nice. Deep Purple would be 10A on my list.

Scorps! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 07:12:16 PM: Killer old school list.
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Post by: TAC on June 29, 2015, 07:18:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 07:12:16 PM
Killer old school list.
LudwigVan puts the old in old school! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on June 29, 2015, 07:19:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 29, 2015, 07:18:22 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 07:12:16 PM
Killer old school list.
LudwigVan puts the old in old school! ;D

..........and Genesis in this thread for the first time :lol
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Post by: TAC on June 29, 2015, 07:26:35 PM: ..and hopefully the last! :lol

Who do you think dubbed me the DTF Resident Genesis hater?
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 29, 2015, 08:20:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 29, 2015, 07:26:35 PM
..and hopefully the last! :lol

Who do you think dubbed me the DTF Resident Genesis hater?

Kip Winger?
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Post by: bl5150 on June 29, 2015, 08:43:40 PM: Chris Caffery new album coming up - had to post the awesome cover art ;D

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/chriscafferyyourheavencd.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on June 30, 2015, 10:29:33 AM: Looks like Castronovo is farked :-\ - reports coming through that rape charges have been added to the domestic violence.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 30, 2015, 10:32:26 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 30, 2015, 10:29:33 AM
Looks like Castronovo is farked :-\ - reports coming through that rape charges have been added to the domestic violence.

Damn, that's inexcusable. It's a shame, because he's such a good drummer and vocalist.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 30, 2015, 10:34:57 AM: Yeah.................even back in the day when I knew him more as a metal drummer on the early Shrapnel stuff etc..... he was well known for having a lot of substance issues and I imagine he has fallen off the wagon again . As you say - if true , it's inexcusable and he deserves what he gets.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 30, 2015, 10:37:09 AM: Regardless of the outcome, it's probably unlikely he'll be back in Journey now. They'll probably want to distance themselves from it, just as AC/DC did with Phil Rudd.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 30, 2015, 01:48:28 PM: That Chris caffrey cover is about as bad as I've seen. Diy albums are one thing but it's not wise to do the cover too.
The music needs to be a masterpiece to combat that.
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Post by: TAC on June 30, 2015, 01:49:45 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 30, 2015, 01:48:28 PM
That Chris caffrey cover is about as bad as I've seen. Diy albums are one thing but it's not wise to do the cover too.
The music needs to be a masterpiece to combat that.
It just as easily could say Chris Holmes across the top.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 30, 2015, 03:36:15 PM: Very cheap looking album cover
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Post by: wolfking on June 30, 2015, 04:28:20 PM: That cover is laughable indeed but Caffery's solo material is decent. The first two were excellent while Pins and Needles wasn't as good but a solid metal album. The last one House of Insanity however was poor. I hope this is better than that one.

That's shit news about Castronovo. WTF is wrong with him?
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Post by: gazinwales on June 30, 2015, 08:47:47 PM: Really good 1970's inspired hard rock, Avatarium
https://www1.wdr.de/fernsehen/kultur/rockpalast/videos/av/videorockhardfestivalavatarium100_size-L.html?autostart=true#banner
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Post by: bl5150 on June 30, 2015, 09:58:51 PM: Snippet here of new Metal Church song - Howe sounds great but the riff/song ain't doing much for me

https://soundcloud.com/rat-pak-records/metal-church-teaser-mike-howe

And in Queensryche news , Wilton was quoted yesterday as saying that the new album will be an early October release.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 30, 2015, 10:12:28 PM: This fall is looking good for new releases!
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Post by: bl5150 on June 30, 2015, 10:41:47 PM: Freddie and Kanye listen to each others version of Bohemian Rhapsody

https://video-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xta1/v/t43.1792-2/11268574_10152860453166933_1765145803_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjE1MDAsInJsYSI6MTAyNCwidmVuY29kZV90YWciOiJsZWdhY3lfaGQifQ%3D%3D&rl=1500&vabr=574&oh=bbe8a2f21288cca7899db3e0f731b5f0&oe=55939064
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Post by: bl5150 on July 02, 2015, 12:34:35 AM: A few of you have likely come across this already but a cool radio podcast here with an extensive interview with Desmond Child about his work with KISS, Bon Jovi etc...

https://www.decibelgeek.com/wordpress/conversation-with-desmond-child-ep195/
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Post by: Big Hath on July 02, 2015, 11:18:54 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 02, 2015, 12:34:35 AM
A few of you have likely come across this already but a cool radio podcast here with an extensive interview with Desmond Child about his work with KISS, Bon Jovi etc...

https://www.decibelgeek.com/wordpress/conversation-with-desmond-child-ep195/

cool interview with LOTS of little nuggets about the songs and bands he's been involved with
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Post by: bl5150 on July 04, 2015, 07:17:49 AM: News snippets:

- Iron Maiden: a short Dickinson interview https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-33387448

- Nice tour if you're in the US

ARMORED SAINT tour dates with SAXON:

Jul. 11 - Las Vegas, NV - Count's Vamp'd (no SAXON)
Aug. 20 - San Diego, CA - Brick By Brick
Sep. 10 - Atlanta, GA - Centerstage
Sep. 12 - Stafford, CT - Palace Theater
Sep. 13 - Portland, ME - Asylum
Sep. 15 - Washington, DC - Howard
Sep. 16 - Westland, MI - Token Lounge
Sep. 17 - Pittsburgh, PA - Altar Bar
Sep. 18 - Cleveland, OH - Agora Ballroom
Sep. 20 - St Charles, IL - Arcada Theater

- Winery Dogs new one due September
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2015, 11:45:10 AM: Would love to see that Saxon/Armored Saint tour.

I don't think either band has ever done much in the way of touring in Canada
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Post by: bl5150 on July 04, 2015, 08:29:28 PM: New Stryper album samples

https://youtu.be/GWeqXVM4JuQ

I'm really liking that first track but am not sure that this album is going to quite live up to NMHTP based on these samples.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2015, 11:05:04 PM: Sounds great
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Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2015, 04:21:02 AM: Short samples, but sounds solid enough. I don't like judging too much based on short samples. I hope the production is better than what we are hearing here though.
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Post by: TAC on July 05, 2015, 04:16:06 PM: Posted this cool interview in the Metallica thread:
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/flemming_rasmussen_im_one_of_the_few_persons_who_heard_the_bass_tracks_on_justice_and_theyre_absolutely_killer.html
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 05, 2015, 09:27:00 PM: Interesting interview
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 05, 2015, 09:37:15 PM: What I wouldn't give to have AJFA with bass. I love that album, but it's unlistenable for me now. Hearing it with real bass would seriously be like hearing the album for the first time again.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 06, 2015, 02:16:49 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 05, 2015, 09:37:15 PM
What I wouldn't give to have AJFA with bass. I love that album, but it's unlistenable for me now. Hearing it with real bass would seriously be like hearing the album for the first time again.

I expected to love it once I got into MoP recently. Unfortunately it sounds unfinished. Muppets.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 06, 2015, 02:19:51 AM: Two or three tracks I like on AJFA - not even in the same league as MoP (or even TBA) for my taste , even if it was mixed properly. Pastor of Muppets eh Paul.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 06, 2015, 02:28:52 AM: Bass problems aside, I'd easily put AJFA at least on par with MoP, and I love both albums. I'd put TBA above both of them though.
I just really hope a faithful remix of AJFA is on the cards at some point, because I need to hear that album properly, and not some amateur Youtube remix attempt at adding bass.
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Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2015, 05:26:13 AM: I'd probably take AJFA over MOP, but it's damn close.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 06, 2015, 05:28:08 AM: I'm not much of a fan of either but MoP has a couple of songs that are pretty good so I prefer that, I guess.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 06, 2015, 07:19:48 AM: I finally found time to scour my collection for live albums that made an impact on me and there sure ain't many....like I said before , live albums really never grabbed me much but I will check out those from all your lists that I am not familiar with. I was surprised to see KISS Alive 3 get a few mentions but now that I have scanned my memory I think that I also played that more than any other KISS live album. I think I was really big into Revenge around that time and had a renewed love for the band and wore that out around the time of the tour (which I attended).

The top two or three were very important albums for me - the next couple I really enjoyed and the rest got occasional play. I struggled to get to ten to be honest.

1. Ozzy Osbourne: Randy Rhoads Tribute
2. Dokken : Beast From The East
3. WASP: Live...........In The Raw
4. KISS : Alive III
5 Judas Priest : Priest..........Live
6. Tesla: Five Man Acoustical Jam
7 Queensryche: Operation : Livecrime
8. John Norum : Live In Stockholm
9 Dokken: One Live Night
10 Glenn Hughes: Burning Japan Live

If I allowed myself to drift into prog territory then Live At The marquee would get a mention.

I'll tally these up later to see if there was a clear champ.

In the meantime we seem to have drifted into Metallica territory so why not make this week their week. It's been done to death in their thread already I imagine but they deserve their spot here ,so they get it anyway :) Usual drill - rank the discog (or Top 5) and Top 10 songs.

Yikes .................... ;D

(https://www.metalunderground.com/images/bandlogos/Metallica_logo.gif)

(https://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-460/h--/q-95/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2009/3/26/1238062014657/Metallica-with-former-bas-002.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 06, 2015, 07:23:18 AM: I don't think I can post anything about the music. I'm too traumatized by that photo. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on July 06, 2015, 07:24:35 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 06, 2015, 07:23:18 AM
I don't think I can post anything about the music. I'm too traumatized by that photo. :lol

Lars looks like he's thinking "...........and they call me a tool?" ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 06, 2015, 07:32:12 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 06, 2015, 07:24:35 AM
Lars looks like he's thinking "...........and they call me a tool?" ;D

Jason Newsted is really pondering his escape. :lol

Ranking-
1. Black Album
2. And Justice For All
3. Master of Puppets
4. Kill 'em All
5. Ride the Lightning / Load
7. Reload
8. Deaf Magnetic
lol. St Anger

If Load/Reload was one album edited to about an hour in length with what I consider the best stuff, I'd probably rank it top 3. A lot of these are pretty close though.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 06, 2015, 08:55:04 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 06, 2015, 07:19:48 AM
I finally found time to scour my collection for live albums that made an impact on me and there sure ain't many....like I said before , live albums really never grabbed me much but I will check out those from all your lists that I am not familiar with. I was surprised to see KISS Alive 3 get a few mentions but now that I have scanned my memory I think that I also played that more than any other KISS live album. I think I was really big into Revenge around that time and had a renewed love for the band and wore that out around the time of the tour (which I attended).

The top two or three were very important albums for me - the next couple I really enjoyed and the rest got occasional play. I struggled to get to ten to be honest.

1. Ozzy Osbourne: Randy Rhoads Tribute
2. Dokken : Beast From The East
3. WASP: Live...........In The Raw
4. KISS : Alive III
5 Judas Priest : Priest..........Live
6. Tesla: Five Man Acoustical Jam
7 Queensryche: Operation : Livecrime
8. John Norum : Live In Stockholm
9 Dokken: One Live Night
10 Glenn Hughes: Burning Japan Live

If I allowed myself to drift into prog territory then Live At The marquee would get a mention.

I'll tally these up later to see if there was a clear champ.

In the meantime we seem to have drifted into Metallica territory so why not make this week their week. It's been done to death in their thread already I imagine but they deserve their spot here ,so they get it anyway :) Usual drill - rank the discog (or Top 5) and Top 10 songs.

Yikes .................... ;D

(https://www.metalunderground.com/images/bandlogos/Metallica_logo.gif)

(https://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-460/h--/q-95/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2009/3/26/1238062014657/Metallica-with-former-bas-002.jpg)

The very obviously looped audience noise ruined Live In the Raw for me. Will do a live albums list when I get home. I used to love live albums, and still love the old ones but I really don't feel the same for new ones. I'd rather watch a dvd than listen to a live album now.
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Post by: Big Hath on July 06, 2015, 09:54:38 AM: Master of Puppets
Ride the Lightning
And Justice for All
Black Album
Kill 'em All
Load
St. Anger
Re-Load
Death Magnetic (just could never get into it . . .)

Garage Inc. would probably go somewhere around Kill 'em All.
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Post by: TAC on July 06, 2015, 12:02:41 PM: I actually had a nice listen to Load last week. It's been awhile since I played the thing from front to back. It's really not a bad album in and of itself. But I came up with Metallica, and to think that Dyer's Eve and Hero Of The Day are just two albums apart doesn't make much sense. Anyway, I find some If they took off Poor Twisted Me, Mama Said, and Ronnie, it would jack the overall rating much higher.
Ronnie is interesting, but it's a B side at best and does not deserve a spot on a proper Metallica album. Same with Mama Said.
One song that I have enjoyed listening to this time around is Thorn Inside. Love the rhythm guitars on that.

Anyway, my listings:
1. Kill 'Em All
2. And Justice For All
3. Master Of Puppets
4. Ride The Lightning
5. Death Magnetic

6. Load

7/8. Reload/St. Anger

Songs:
1. Master Of Puppets
2. Blackened
3. One
4. Dyer's Eve
5. Whiplash
6. Hit The Lights
7. Fade To Black
8. The Four Horsemen
9. Damage Inc.
10. Fade To Black
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 06, 2015, 12:54:14 PM: Master of Puppets
And Justice
Ride the Lightning
Black Album
Kill Em All
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Post by: TAC on July 06, 2015, 02:11:24 PM: What I thought was interesting with the Flemming interview was that James played Kirk's equipment to double up the rhythms. I had never heard that before. I wonder if Kirk played on St. Anger at all!

Man, if Justice sounded like Puppets, it would really be breathtaking.
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Post by: TAC on July 06, 2015, 03:34:28 PM: New Chris Holmes video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqX-BC7ImXU

It's so bad it's awesome! :lol Is that even possible??

How this man does not have his own reality TV series, I'll never know!

(https://www.headbanger.ru/fmst/files/data/45132.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 06, 2015, 04:56:40 PM: This guy is a nutbar. Has he always been like this, or just the booze.

Song is the shits
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Post by: bl5150 on July 06, 2015, 09:18:44 PM: Zakk Wylde + 15 years.

In the comments someone called it "homeless bum metal" :metal :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 06, 2015, 11:30:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 06, 2015, 12:02:41 PM
Anyway, my listings:
1. Kill 'Em All
2. And Justice For All
3. Master Of Puppets
4. Ride The Lightning
5. Death Magnetic

6. Load

7/8. Reload/St. Anger

I think you're missing one there. :justjen
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Post by: bl5150 on July 06, 2015, 11:58:17 PM: If I can block out DLR and concentrate on the music ,then I am really liking the setlist that VH are playing on the new tour. Wolf is in charge of the setlist and he's tailored it to the diehards and filled it with cool deep cuts, opening with my favourite DLR-era song

1) LIGHT UP THE SKY!!! (Van Halen II classic not performed since ’80!)
2) RUNNIN’ WITH THE DEVIL
3) ROMEO DELIGHT
4) EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!!
5) DROP DEAD LEGS!!! (1984 classic – never performed live!)
6) FEEL YOUR LOVE TONIGHT (Van Halen classic not performed since ’98!)
7) SOMEBODY GET ME A DOCTOR!
8) SHE’S THE WOMAN
9) CHINA TOWN
10) I’LL WAIT
11) DRUM SOLO
12) LITTLE GUITARS
13) DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY
14) BEAUTIFUL GIRLS
15) WOMEN IN LOVE…
16) HOT FOR TEACHER
17) IN A SIMPLE RHYME!!! (W&CF classic not performed since club days!)
18) GROWTH!! (W&CF instrumental very rarely performed!)
19) DIRTY MOVIES!!! (Fair Warning classic – never performed live!)
20) Dave playing harmonica & ICE CREAM MAN
21) UNCHAINED
22) AIN’T TALKIN ‘BOUT LOVE
23) GUITAR SOLO (9 minutes long)
24) YOU REALLY GOT ME
25) PANAMA
26) JUMP
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 07, 2015, 12:09:46 AM: 1/3/4 are a piss weak way to start a set, and I don't even know wtf 17/18 are, but aside from that it's pretty good. They could have chosen so much better deep cuts than those.
I checked out the clips yesterday of Drop Dead Legs and Dirty Movies, and they were sounding good, and DLR was about what you'd expect.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 07, 2015, 12:16:25 AM: (https://s3.postimg.org/84302svxv/wtf.gif)

Light Up The Sky is not a pissweak anything :P

And you don't recall In A Simple Rhyme ?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 07, 2015, 12:22:51 AM: WACF is throwaway. The only song I could recall from the album off the top of my head is And The Cradle Will Rock, and even that's only average. And Light Up The Sky is the first of the filler track run on VH2.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 07, 2015, 12:24:28 AM: Well I am used to you having the opposite take to most people I know by now Blob :lol As far as VH 2 goes , I love it all to varying extents but most people I know consider Track 1 to be the start of the filler there and Light Up The Sky to be the awesome peak ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 07, 2015, 12:25:36 AM: I love most of VH2, but tracks 6/7/8 are the lull inbetween everything else being awesome.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 07, 2015, 12:29:08 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 07, 2015, 12:22:51 AM
WACF is throwaway. The only song I could recall from the album off the top of my head is And The Cradle Will Rock, and even that's only average.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 07, 2015, 12:09:46 AM
1/3/4 are a piss weak way to start a set

So how did you know tracks 3 & 4 on the setlist are pissweak ? :neverusethis:
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 07, 2015, 12:30:52 AM: Because obviously I've tried listening to it enough times to know it's crap, and therefore don't remember any of it, smartass. ;)

Oh, actually I do remember Loss of Control, where they just scream LOSS OF CONTROL obnoxiously for 2 minutes over some annoying noises.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 07, 2015, 12:35:00 AM: Things would work out better for you if you try and remember the good songs ;D And it's Mr. Smartass to you young man :hat
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 07, 2015, 12:36:53 AM: I remember all the good songs, which hasn't left any room for filler like WACF. It's almost offensively bad.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 07, 2015, 12:48:24 AM: That is a an awesome VH setlist!!

Light up the Sky is a killer song
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Post by: TAC on July 07, 2015, 09:55:47 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 06, 2015, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 06, 2015, 12:02:41 PM
Anyway, my listings:
1. Kill 'Em All
2. And Justice For All
3. Master Of Puppets
4. Ride The Lightning
5. Death Magnetic

6. Load

7/8. Reload/St. Anger

I think you're missing one there. :justjen
Oh shit you're right. The Black Album. Put it at a tie with DM.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 07, 2015, 12:42:32 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 07, 2015, 12:22:51 AM
WACF is throwaway. The only song I could recall from the album off the top of my head is And The Cradle Will Rock, and even that's only average. And Light Up The Sky is the first of the filler track run on VH2.

CTBM? is the best song on the album. And I quite like this album
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 08, 2015, 12:25:23 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 07, 2015, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 07, 2015, 12:22:51 AM
WACF is throwaway. The only song I could recall from the album off the top of my head is And The Cradle Will Rock, and even that's only average. And Light Up The Sky is the first of the filler track run on VH2.

CTBM? is the best song on the album. And I quite like this album

I just realized I've never listened to this song all the way through. Is this supposed to be a joke song? It sounds like it's right off Strummin' With The Devil, the bluegrass VH tribute album. :lol
Oh wait, that has a cover of CTBM, and it doesn't sound much different.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2015, 01:13:48 PM: (https://www.deesnider.com/cache/com_zoo/images/IMG_0270b650_0f6b42b535959eede6bc63ae73345077.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2015, 05:24:39 AM: Damn he's fit if that photo is real.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2015, 07:07:40 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 09, 2015, 05:24:39 AM
Damn he's fit if that photo is real.

No kidding
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Post by: bl5150 on July 12, 2015, 12:19:07 AM: Having a Metallica listening day today , so I can get my list up before the week ends in the northern hemisphere. This will include my first proper listen to the post-TBA albums. If Load is any indication I am not going to find it particularly enjoyable. Not horrific ,but very "flat" and nothing really memorable.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 12, 2015, 12:29:10 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 06, 2015, 11:30:41 PM
I think you're missing one there. :justjen

Quote from: TAC on July 06, 2015, 12:02:41 PM

Songs:
1. Master Of Puppets
2. Blackened
3. One
4. Dyer's Eve
5. Whiplash
6. Hit The Lights
7. Fade To Black
8. The Four Horsemen
9. Damage Inc.
10. Fade To Black

Missing one here too . Is that you king? ;D

Well St Anger has me pissing myself laughing -not sure if to award extra points for that or not

(https://tribe.cycomaniacs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/l_32a29ccd9a918d42a203b6c62a2dc28d.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 12, 2015, 08:38:54 AM: Haha

It wouldn't bother me if I never heard a post TBA Metallica song again. All of it is decent- good material though
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Post by: bl5150 on July 12, 2015, 04:36:37 PM: My son just walked in on me playing Blackened ................I went to switch it off as I thought it might be a bit too much ,but he started running around to the rhythm (I'll call it "moshing ") and said "That's impressive (never used that word before in my presence) ......I want you to put that on my next CD Daddy" :lol :metal He might like AJFA more than me :neverusethis:
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 12, 2015, 04:58:03 PM: Sounds like Metallica just passed Kiss for your sons favorite band!
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 12, 2015, 05:14:20 PM: Some worry about their kids catching them in the bedroom, others its music. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on July 12, 2015, 05:15:33 PM: I always had a soft spot for St Anger. It has a certain, depressed and tormented atmosphere to it. It reflects the band's state of mind at the time, which I really like. I like the rawness of it too.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 12, 2015, 07:44:27 PM: I finally got through my Metallica listening and so here's my album ranking:

1. Master of Puppets
2. Black Album

3. Ride The Lightning

4. Reload
5. Death Magnetic
6. And Justice For All
7. Kill Em All

8.Load

15. St Anger (sorry Kade... ;D )

The biggest frustration for me was Death Magnetic - surprisingly good but what could have been a really great album is ruined by a lot of unnecessary fat on the songs (they don't have the tools - apart from Lars :neverusethis: - to be writing prog length tracks/instrumentals throughout) and Kirk Hammett is one of the few guitarists who has the special talent of ruining a whole song for me with his solos and he exceeds expectations on Death Magnetic. :-\ Stuff like Judas Kiss could've been close to Top 10 for me if his awful solo was removed.

My ratings across the catalogue are quite similar to those I have for DT - one of the best albums ever recorded up top , 2 or 3 more seriously excellent releases , a bunch around the 70-80 mark and 2 or 3 really average ones rounding things out.

Top Ten Songs

Creeping Death
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Master of Puppets
Battery
Sanitarium
Disposable Heroes
Orion
One
Holier Than THou
The Unforgiven
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 12, 2015, 09:56:05 PM: Surprised to see AJFA so low
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 12, 2015, 11:09:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 12, 2015, 07:44:27 PM
The biggest frustration for me was Death Magnetic - surprisingly good but what could have been a really great album is ruined by a lot of unnecessary fat on the songs (they don't have the tools - apart from Lars :neverusethis: - to be writing prog length tracks/instrumentals throughout) and Kirk Hammett is one of the few guitarists who has the special talent of ruining a whole song for me with his solos and he exceeds expectations on Death Magnetic. :-\ Stuff like Judas Kiss could've been close to Top 10 for me if his awful solo was removed.

I agree there. A lot of the songs on DM have the makings of great songs, but they're too bloated in a contrived attempt to emulate MoP/AJFA structures, except that the instrumental sections on DM are all awful and unnecessary. Had they gone for generally shorter TBA style songs, it would have improved it a lot. Judas Kiss is my favourite from the album, and I'd potentially rank it equally high if not for that instrumental section dead weight.
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2015, 06:36:58 AM: DM never did anything for me at all. I'd easily take St Anger over it.
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Post by: Bolsters on July 13, 2015, 07:29:57 AM: I was going to post a list a few days ago, but the thread topic seemed to have moved on so I didn't bother. But since we're back to that, here is my likely controversial ranking of the albums:

The Black Album
Death Magnetic
Ride the Lightning
Reload
Load / Master of Puppets
Kill 'em All
...And Justice for All
St. Anger
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 13, 2015, 07:34:31 AM: It's like you got first and last right, but then accidentally got everything inbetween flipped around. :P
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Post by: bl5150 on July 13, 2015, 07:40:21 AM: I don't have much trouble with that Bolsters - I rate AJFA much lower than most (although not quite that low) , Reload higher than most (tick) and if I could take an axe to the songs I would have Death Magnetic much higher too. The only one I would differ strongly on is Master of Puppets .

I will collate the results tomorrow.
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2015, 04:43:09 PM: Haven't really been into Metallica since the Load albums but I'll have a go at a ranking;

And Justice For All
Master of Puppets
Black
Ride the Lightning
Load
St Anger
Kill 'Em All
Reload
DM

Yeah, I think AJFA is my fav.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 15, 2015, 04:26:46 AM: Metallica results as follows..............we got 7 album rankings which is awesome but only 2 Top 10 song lists , so I won't bother with the songs. I am pleased to see Master of Puppets take out the crown - there was very little uniformity with the rankings other than the top four being very clear.

1. Master of Puppets

2. The Black Album
3. And Justice For All
4. Ride The Lightning

5. Kill Em All
6. Death Magnetic

7. Reload
8. Load

9. St Anger
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 15, 2015, 04:39:04 AM: No real surprises there. Personally I've always found RTL to be a bit overrated (as an album) and KEA underrated, and I wouldn't put DM or Reload ahead of Load.

And I'm positively shocked that St Anger ranked last.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 15, 2015, 08:56:06 AM: That top five is pretty close to what I had
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Post by: Kwyjibo on July 16, 2015, 02:28:29 AM: Back from the holiday and obviously too late for the Metallica ranking. But I give it to you nonetheless, if only just to annoy you with my probably controversial ranking :xbones

Load (the most consistent and varied album, and yes, I'm serious)
The Black Album (heavy but without much of the bloated stuff of the previous albums)
Master Of Puppets (half absolute classic, half nearly forgettable)
Ride The Lightning (good but not that great)
.
And Justice For All (with better production it might be higher, but not much)
.
.
.
Kill Them All (I like the raw energy but not most of the songs)
Death Magnetic (some decent songs but most are too long and bloated)
.
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ReLoad (clearly the leftovers, one or two good tracks)
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.
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St. Anger (just no)

I am more a casual Metallica fan and find that almost all the albums have a lot of filler material to them. And Battery is one of the silliest songs ever recorded (maybe if it would be played tight and on time it would be better, but as it is it's just a bunch of random noise pretending to be heavy and fast).

And I have a problem with Lars' drumming style and sound, not only on St. Anger. I never liked it from the beginning and he clearly didn't improve over time.

Kirk had some good solo spots on the early albums but mostly it's "kick down the wah and fiddle around" and it ruins a lot.

The bass players are interchangeable (even Cliff up to a point) because you almost never hear them on the record.

That said, I think that James is one of the best rhythm guitar players and riff inventors in metal and a fairly good singer. If he got a better backing band I would like Metallica more. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on July 16, 2015, 03:49:48 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on July 16, 2015, 02:28:29 AM
That said, I think that James is one of the best rhythm guitar players and riff inventors in metal and a fairly good singer. If he got a better backing band I would like Metallica more. ;D

Out: Hammett
In : Skolnick :tup
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Post by: Kotowboy on July 16, 2015, 04:07:51 AM: My Tallica Ranking BayBay- Yeahh !!

1. Master Of Puppets
2. Metallica
3. Ride The Lightning
4. Death Magnetic - specifically the new iTunes version.
5. Load
6. Reload
7. And Justice For All
8. Kill Em All
9. St Anger

Lulu - even though I did enjoy it.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 19, 2015, 12:27:12 AM: New instrumental track from the upcoming Gus G album......I thought his last one was pretty ordinary (despite a great cast of vocalists) . This sounds alright for what it is (shred) ,but I am hoping for more memorable vocal songs this time around.

https://youtu.be/HjBnqXkJ7HA

The new one features Soto on 2 tracks and Mats Leven on 3 ,so again.........good vocals if the songs are there.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 19, 2015, 12:43:49 AM: That's a great track!
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Post by: bl5150 on July 19, 2015, 02:10:16 AM: Phil Rudd has been arrested again :lol No info yet on what exactly but it sounds like it might have involved Phil getting confused as to what "house arrest" means and inviting some hookers with handcuffs around . :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 19, 2015, 02:12:07 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 19, 2015, 02:10:16 AM
Phil Rudd has been arrested again :lol No info yet on what exactly but it sounds like it might have involved Phil getting confused as to what "house arrest" means and inviting some hookers with handcuffs around . :metal

What a legend. :lol I don't see the problem.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2015, 05:55:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 19, 2015, 02:10:16 AM
Phil Rudd has been arrested again :lol No info yet on what exactly but it sounds like it might have involved Phil getting confused as to what "house arrest" means and inviting some hookers with handcuffs around . :metal

Reported for use of wrong emot.

:zydarscouch:
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 19, 2015, 08:12:46 AM: He goofed up
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Post by: bl5150 on July 19, 2015, 10:45:50 AM: Kade and I were recently chatting in the album thread about the new album by Aussie rockers (in spirit at least) The Dead Daisies featuring John Corabi , Brian Tichy and Marco Mendoza. Sounds very Australian :lol

Anyway - I can confirm that it is a huge step up from the debut , which wasted one of Australia's best vocalists Jon Stevens on some pretty average songs. The new one has Corabi stepping in and doing a fine job - it does feature Jimmy Barnes on one track too.

I can't really think of an album to compare this to properly but if slightly funky , bluesy rock loosely along the lines of Voodoo Highway by Badlands appeals to you ,then I think this is a pretty safe bet. Very competent stuff and looking at a high 80's rating. Not a style I listen to that often but when I do this will be one of the go to albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 12:00:53 AM: Time to feature another band - or "band era" in this case. We'll take a look at the Tony Martin era of Black Sabbath.............hopefully this will get a bit of interest outside of me and Kade :lol. My first Sabbath album (1990, so mid teens) was Tyr and I still love that album. I was only a beginner when it comes to genuine metal at that time ...... I had been an Ozzy fan for a number of years but was really only vaguely aware of his connection with Sabbath via the couple of tracks on the Randy Rhoads Tribute album. Same with Dio solo. So to me at the time Tony Martin was the voice of Black Sabbath and he is still right up there with any vocalist they have had IMHO. It may also be my favourite Sabbath era when all is said and done.

To this day (rather weird given my love for Ozzy solo) I really haven't properly listened to all the Ozzy era Sabbath. We'll get to that after I have .

I will brush up on the albums I haven't given much time to during the week and ,as per usual, finish off the week with my ratings and a summary. I wasn't too fond of Cross Purposes if memory serves correct.

Go for it................album rankings and Top 10 songs if you're up for it.

(https://www.metalinsider.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/sabs89.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 20, 2015, 12:28:16 AM: I would take the Tony Martin era of Sabbath any day of the week over the Ozzy era

I'll think about the songs but the albums would be

1) Headless Cross
2) Eternal Idol
3) Tyr
4) Cross Purposes
5) Forbidden
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Post by: Kwyjibo on July 20, 2015, 01:10:07 AM: I have Headless Cross and Tyr and I like them quite a bit, although I was never more than a casual Sabbath fan regardless of which era.

I absolute love Anno Mundi and because of the strength of this song alone Tyr is the slightly better album for me.
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Post by: gazinwales on July 20, 2015, 01:21:07 AM: Brent, now your talking!
This is probably my fave Sabbath line up, outside the classic Dio/Iommi/Butler/Appice.

Really strange that yesterday I was going through old hard drives and found a bootleg from 1992.
Called Tony Martin and Freinds, it has Cozy and Neil Murray on it performing Rainbow, Whitesnake and Sabbath classics.
Let me know if you need it?
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 20, 2015, 06:58:19 AM: Top ten songs

1) Headless Cross
2) When Death Calls
3) Devil & Daughter
4) The Shining
5) Black Moon
6) Sabbath Stones
7) Ancient Warrior
8) Hard Life to Love
9) Nightmare
10) Law Maker
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Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2015, 11:46:32 AM: I wasn't much of a Sabbath fan with Ozzy, beyond the hits. I love the DIO albums and after that I didn't devote much time to them I did buy eternal idol and headless cross and really like it. I bought Tyr and like it well enough. Over the last few years I've given and cross purposes a go and they are quality albums. I've never heard Forbidden.

The Ian gillan album is best forgotten it ever existed.

Tony Martin had a great voice for that stuff, but I do have a soft spot for the Ray Gillen version of eternal idol
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Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 01:33:23 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 20, 2015, 11:46:32 AM

The Ian gillan album is best forgotten it ever existed.

Tony Martin had a great voice for that stuff, but I do have a soft spot for the Ray Gillen version of eternal idol

I agree on both counts and I will do an Ian Gillan era special for you later ;D Born Again does get a surprising amount of love but I thought it was awful. And I have those Ray Gillen demos somewhere and they're good stuff , although it's not thaaaat much different to the Martin sound. I do wish that Ray had managed to sing on more hard rock and metal during his career - he was so close to scoring some great gigs but never really got across the line.
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Post by: TAC on July 20, 2015, 01:37:45 PM: The thing with Born Again was that as a whole, it was awful, Felt rushed and uncommitted. But there were a couple of GREAT moments including Disturbing The Priest, which would make my Sabbath Top 10 across all eras, and I don't think there's a single Martin era track that beats it.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 01:45:59 PM: I can't remember much about it other than I disliked it quite a bit. The only track I rated better than 3/5 stars in iTunes was Hot Line , so it looks like I disagree :lol I'm pretty sure I didn't have a great problem with his voice in Sabbath - just thought the songs weren't there and his talent wasn't used particularly well.
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Post by: TAC on July 20, 2015, 01:48:33 PM: Hot Line blows! :lol
I like Trashed, Zero The Hero, and Disturbing The priest. I can also live with the title track. Would've made a great EP.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 01:51:15 PM: .
Quote from: TAC on July 20, 2015, 01:48:33 PM
Hot Line blows! :lol

Well they all blow really....I think I was being generous. :P I only forced myself to listen to the lot for rating purposes. The idea of anything on that being better than everything by Martin is not computing :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2015, 01:52:29 PM: I hated the guitar sound. Only song I liked was Trashed. I can listen to Zero. The rest, nah.

Headless Cross and the Shining are the standout Martin era songs.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2015, 02:30:10 PM: The only Sabbath album I have is Paranoid. For some reason, I just never went there. And depsite Kade's and Jay's attempts in my roulette, I'm still not there. Neon Knights is a killer track though. I think I borrowed the H&H from a buddy, but don't remember much about it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 20, 2015, 03:01:17 PM: Chad if you gave the Dio/Martin eras a solid listen, I'm sure you would enjoy it.

I like Born Again, and Disturbing the Priest is excellent.

What are the thoughts on Seventh Star?
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Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 03:09:55 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 20, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
What are the thoughts on Seventh Star?

Strong album. I imagine it upsets a few Sabbath purists (and Paul esp :lol ) with Glenn Hughes on vox but I think it's a strong album on its merits. Danger Zone , Turn To Stone and Angry Heart are faves and I pretty much like everything else to varying degrees except Heart Like A Wheel.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 04:01:38 PM: There's not enough time in the day to keep up with music these days , so I rarely bother with sifting through the huge number of radio shows/podcasts out there , but this one could have some interesting stuff in it .........especially if you want to learn all about KK Downing's fragrances :lol

INTERVIEWS WITH KK DOWNING (EX-JUDAS PRIEST), HOUSE OF LORDS, SPACEY T (SOUND BARRIER, PRAISE THE DEAD), SYMPHONY X AND DEATH ANGEL ON RICH DAVENPORT'S ROCK SHOW
Rich Davenport's Rock Show this week features interviews with Judas Priest legend KK Downing, James Christian (House of Lords), Tracey 'Spacey T' Singleton (Praise The Dead, ex Sound Barrier, Fishbone), Symphony X's Michael Romeo and Ted Aguilar from Death Angel, and is now available for streaming at this link:

https://www.mixcloud.com/richdav1/rich-davenports-rock-show-kk-downing-house-of-lords-spacey-t-symphony-xdeath-angel-interviews/

In the first hour, legendary former Judas Priest guitarist KK Downing drops in to discuss his new range of fragrances for Rockers, Metal for Men and Metal for Women. KK also talks about some of the reasons he chose to leave Priest, and looks at the way in which the classic Priest axe team he formed with Glenn Tipton worked to stay on the cutting edge of lead guitar playing. KK also chooses two of his favourite Priest classics.

Also in part 1, House of Lords vocalist James Christian looks at the band's stellar new album 'Indestructible', their tenth to date, released as the current line up celebrates its tenth anniversary. You'll also hear two new tracks chosen by James.

The second hour kicks off with a chat with renowned guitar hero Tracey 'Spacey T' Singleton, formerly of Sound Barrier, Fishbone, and Mother's Finest, and now playing 8-string guitar with Praise The Dead, a power duo whose sound is simultaneously melodic and crushingly heavy. The band has just released 'The Heavy', the first of 3 EPs, and Tracey gives the low down on this exciting new project. Tracey also pays tribute to Phil Lynott, revealing that Sound Barrier approached the Lizzy legend's management to ask him to produce an album for them. You'll also hear Sound Barrier's cover of Thin Lizzy's 'Hollywood (Down On Your Luck)', and Tracey's choice of another Lizzy gem.

Rounding off the show are interviews with Michael Romeo, guitarist with Prog Metal masters Symphony X, who looks at their forthcoming new album 'Underworld', and Ted Aguilar, rhythm guitarist with classic Thrashers Death Angel. Ted discusses their new CD/DVD package which features a live album, 'The Bay Calls For Blood', and 'Thrashumentary', a career-spanning retrospective documentary.
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Post by: TAC on July 20, 2015, 04:15:31 PM: I'd be interested on his decision to leave Priest. That's about it.
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Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2015, 04:15:38 PM: I think KK has been doing that for a while, I heard a couple of his interviews, he's pretty good.

Brent, I'll check out that Dead Daises album then.

I'm with Jason with his opinions on Martin era Sabbath, but we already knew that. Album rankings;

1. TYR
2. Headless Cross
3. Cross Purposes
4. The Eternal idol
5. Forbidden

TYR and Headless Cross could easily swap around though. Just brilliant songs all round. I'll have a crack at a top 10;

1. Anno Mundi (The Vision)
2. When Death Calls
3. Glory Ride
4. The Law Maker
5. Cross of Thorns
6. Headless Cross
7. Devil and Daughter
8. The Sabbath Stones
9. Immaculate Deception
10. Born to Lose
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Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 04:38:05 PM: Yeah Davenport is pretty good - I'll have a listen to KK and Michael Romeo when I get a chance.

I am currently having a listen to "The V" album (Veronica Freeman). Solid album of everything from melodic rock to metal if you don't mind a female vocal.

Not a shabby line up either , with a couple of Michael Sweet co- writes:

Veronica Freeman – Lead vocals
Leather Leone – Duet vocals “Kiss my Lips”
Tony Martin - Duet vocals “King for a Day”
Meliesa McDonell - additional vocals “Star Shine” & Acoustic guitars
Derek Kerswill - drums
Jeff Pilson, Mel Brown, Garry Bordonaro, Aric Avina, John O’Boyle & Mike Lepond - Bass
Pete Wells, Michael Sweet ,Peter Tentindo, Jimmy Durkin, Mick Tucker, Jordan Ziff, Michael Harris – Guitars
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Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2015, 04:47:54 PM: Just not a big female vox fan, but I might check it out.

What about this Kelly Keeling one Brent?
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Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 07:04:15 PM: I haven't listened to the Keeling album - will be in the next few days. Will let you know.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2015, 07:16:46 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 04:38:05 PM
Yeah Davenport is pretty good - I'll have a listen to KK and Michael Romeo when I get a chance.

I am currently having a listen to "The V" album (Veronica Freeman). Solid album of everything from melodic rock to metal if you don't mind a female vocal.

Not a shabby line up either , with a couple of Michael Sweet co- writes:

Veronica Freeman – Lead vocals
Leather Leone – Duet vocals “Kiss my Lips”
Tony Martin - Duet vocals “King for a Day”
Meliesa McDonell - additional vocals “Star Shine” & Acoustic guitars
Derek Kerswill - drums
Jeff Pilson, Mel Brown, Garry Bordonaro, Aric Avina, John O’Boyle & Mike Lepond - Bass
Pete Wells, Michael Sweet ,Peter Tentindo, Jimmy Durkin, Mick Tucker, Jordan Ziff, Michael Harris – Guitars

Nice, gonna have to check that out then. Me love the ladies on the mic.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 21, 2015, 10:51:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 20, 2015, 03:09:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 20, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
What are the thoughts on Seventh Star?

Strong album. I imagine it upsets a few Sabbath purists (and Paul esp :lol ) with Glenn Hughes on vox but I think it's a strong album on its merits. Danger Zone , Turn To Stone and Angry Heart are faves and I pretty much like everything else to varying degrees except Heart Like A Wheel.

:biggrin:
I can tolerate him on this album but he does overdo the " Steve Wonder thinks I'm awesome" soul an stuff.
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Post by: TAC on July 21, 2015, 01:51:20 PM: This looks interesting..
https://bravewords.com/news/greg-lakes-legendary-1981-performance-at-the-hammersmith-odeon-in-london-to-be-issued-on-cd-vinyl-features-gary-moore
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Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2015, 01:53:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 21, 2015, 01:51:20 PM
This looks interesting..
https://bravewords.com/news/greg-lakes-legendary-1981-performance-at-the-hammersmith-odeon-in-london-to-be-issued-on-cd-vinyl-features-gary-moore

How much is Gary Moore on? - that's the only bit that would interest me.
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Post by: TAC on July 21, 2015, 02:02:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 21, 2015, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 21, 2015, 01:51:20 PM
This looks interesting..
https://bravewords.com/news/greg-lakes-legendary-1981-performance-at-the-hammersmith-odeon-in-london-to-be-issued-on-cd-vinyl-features-gary-moore

How much is Gary Moore on? - that's the only bit that would interest me.
I had the same question. If he's on the entire thing, this is a no brainer.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2015, 02:05:04 PM: Looking at the track listing it struck me that it might just be Parisienne Walkways ,in which case I probably wouldn't bother.
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Post by: TAC on July 21, 2015, 02:08:30 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 21, 2015, 02:05:04 PM
Looking at the track listing it struck me that it might just be Parisienne Walkways ,in which case I probably wouldn't bother.
He's not coming on for just that. I think he's going the gig, especially with Nuclear Attack in the set.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2015, 02:18:13 PM: Haha - believe it or not I already have this gig on disc somewhere..........one of many I tracked down years ago and never really listened to properly. It was released as a King Biscuit Flower Hour in 1995 and Moore is there for the duration. Same date and everything - I will have to dig it out if I can find it.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/80/King_Biscuit_Flower_Hour_Presents_Greg_Lake_In_Concert_Album_Cover.jpg/220px-King_Biscuit_Flower_Hour_Presents_Greg_Lake_In_Concert_Album_Cover.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on July 21, 2015, 02:19:56 PM: Nice. Then I will get it!

I actually don't have any ELP albums, but I did see the ELPowell tour in 1986 and was pretty familiar with most of the set. Enjoyed the show very much.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2015, 02:37:58 PM: There's some info on the 1995 release and a couple of full track samples here:

https://www.discogs.com/Greg-Lake-Feat-Gary-Moore-King-Biscuit-Flower-Hour-Presents-Greg-Lake-In-Concert/master/329145
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Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2015, 06:20:08 PM: New KISS song :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFSaKL5dFgc&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: TAC on July 21, 2015, 06:52:07 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 21, 2015, 06:20:08 PM
New KISS song :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFSaKL5dFgc&feature=youtu.be
It's better than Monster!
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 21, 2015, 06:58:12 PM: Ummmmmmm. No
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 21, 2015, 09:01:04 PM: Dumb
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 21, 2015, 11:16:51 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on July 21, 2015, 06:58:12 PM
Ummmmmmm. No

It was an amusing joke song though.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 22, 2015, 03:28:34 AM: Can't see it at work but I guess its from the KISS/Scooby Doo movie?
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 22, 2015, 09:00:16 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 22, 2015, 03:28:34 AM
Can't see it at work but I guess its from the KISS/Scooby Doo movie?

Yup and don't bother
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Post by: TAC on July 22, 2015, 04:22:44 PM: Yikes!
https://bravewords.com/news/did-black-sabbath-lift-paranoid-riff-from-half-life-audio-comparison
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Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2015, 04:26:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 22, 2015, 04:22:44 PM
Yikes!
https://bravewords.com/news/did-black-sabbath-lift-paranoid-riff-from-half-life-audio-comparison

Meh, it actually reminded me more of Hey Joe. It's similar but a shit song, Paranoid is a good song.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on July 23, 2015, 12:00:05 AM: I could hear the slight similarity in the riff, but overall it's an entirely different and shitty song. There was almost no vocal melody, and it was bumbley and all over the place.
Paranoid is a much tighter song with actual melodies, and has the metal chug thing going on. Get Down isn't similar in any way that made Paranoid the well known song it is today.
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Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2015, 05:33:50 AM: Agree with Blob totally. I actually think it's the guitar tones that give off more of an impression.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 23, 2015, 06:00:48 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 23, 2015, 05:33:50 AM
Agree with Blob totally.

Does. Not. Compute.
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Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2015, 04:43:17 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 23, 2015, 06:00:48 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 23, 2015, 05:33:50 AM
Agree with Blob totally.

Does. Not. Compute.

I was just as taken back as you.
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Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2015, 04:44:38 PM: Dunno if this has been posted;

W.A.S.P. To Release Golgotha October 2nd
on Napalm Records

Artwork and Track Listing Revealed

Almost six years have passed since the world saw a new studio album from Metal Icons W.A.S.P. This October 2nd, the wait ends, as Blackie Lawless and the legendary rockers W.A.S.P. will release their long awaited new album and Napalm Records debut Golgotha. Today the artwork and track listing have been revealed.
Frontman Blackie Lawless on the new album Golgotha:
“There are times in any band’s career that somehow all things mesh together. Their experiences, influences, and personal timing bring them into a common space. This has happened with this record. Four years in the making has provided direction, but even greater reflection. Golgotha, where Christ was crucified - Hebrew for "the place of the skull".”

Golgotha is available for pre-order from the Napalm Records Webstore in North America and Europe.

Shop North America: https://www.napalmrecordsamerica.com/store/wasp

Shop Rest of The World: https://shop.napalmrecords.com/wasp

Golgotha Track Listing:

1. Scream
2. Last Runaway
3. Shotgun
4. Miss You
5. Fallen Under
6. Slaves of the New World Order
7. Eyes of My Maker
8. Hero of the World
9. Golgotha

(https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/q90/p480x480/11057527_846416388777103_3904230214213587674_n.jpg?oh=a09264a90934c44d784fc3cf75ea2863&oe=56197D5F)
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Post by: TAC on July 23, 2015, 04:48:48 PM: I literally haven't paid attention to WASP in 25 years, let alone buy a new release. I am hoping that when this comes out, someone will convince me on this. Would love to like this.
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Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2015, 05:09:37 PM: Seems like a lot of work has gone into this one. The few have been good, but hoping for something special here.
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Post by: TAC on July 23, 2015, 05:11:19 PM: I will not spend any money on it until you tell me it's safe to do so!
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Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2015, 05:30:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 23, 2015, 05:11:19 PM
I will not spend any money on it until you tell me it's safe to do so!

Copy that.

The latest Winger album is really good, I think you should buy it.
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Post by: TAC on July 23, 2015, 05:33:36 PM: :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 23, 2015, 07:54:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 23, 2015, 05:33:36 PM
:lol

:|

What's so funny about what Kade said? It's a great album. :TAC: :2metal:
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Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2015, 07:55:57 PM: Yeah, it is.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 23, 2015, 10:56:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 20, 2015, 04:47:54 PM

What about this Kelly Keeling one Brent?

I have had a listen to it now and it's alright................low-mid 70's rating. It sorta sounds like what it is - a Frontiers job with all the usual suspects involved. There are a few standout tracks but the rest just falls into the decent/heard it all before category. I tend to prefer his gritty voice over more bluesy/rocking material than a lot of the stuff on this too.

If you love his voice and are a completist then it's probably worth it for a couple of the best tracks -otherwise I would stick to stuff like Baton Rouge or John Norum's Another Destination which has the killer track Resurrection Time.
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Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2015, 02:00:14 AM: Not familiar with him, just didn't mind the songs that were released. I probably won't buy it, just listen online I think. I'm actually getting a bit over these Frontiers projects myself.

Anyone check that Tolkki and hot chick one? :lol i didn't.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 26, 2015, 10:01:41 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2015, 02:00:14 AM
Anyone check that Tolkki and hot chick one? :lol i didn't.

no - but I have noticed that it is getting pretty positive reviews around the traps. Maybe it's all guys watching the song videos with the sound down .
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Post by: gazinwales on July 26, 2015, 01:14:41 PM: Maybe the album is actually pretty good?
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Post by: bl5150 on July 26, 2015, 04:33:59 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 26, 2015, 01:14:41 PM
Maybe the album is actually pretty good?

Alright g-man...........I will check it out, but if it causes ear bleeds I am sending you the medical bill. ;D

I have actually heard a couple of tracks and they were very meh!
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2015, 05:26:31 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 26, 2015, 04:33:59 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on July 26, 2015, 01:14:41 PM
Maybe the album is actually pretty good?

Alright g-man...........I will check it out, but if it causes ear bleeds I am sending you the medical bill. ;D

I have actually heard a couple of tracks and they were very meh!

Good luck
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Post by: bl5150 on July 26, 2015, 08:44:38 PM: My ratings on Martin era Sabbath:

Albums:

1. Tyr
2. Headless Cross

3. Cross Purposes
4. Eternal Idol
5. Forbidden

Top 10 Songs:

The Sabbath Stones
Valhalla
Heaven In Black
Ancient Warrior
Headless Cross
Devil & Daughter
Black Moon
Forbidden
Cross of Thorns
Psychophobia

Not too many lists for this one but will collate later.

Off to listen to Chaos Tragic :)
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Post by: bl5150 on July 26, 2015, 09:37:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 26, 2015, 08:44:38 PM

Off to listen to Chaos Tragic :)

Well it's pretty obvious what Tolkki was trying to achieve here........this is Within Temptation (tick) with all of the life sucked out of it (fail). The singer Caterina has smokin' legs and a nice ass but her voice is something you might expect to hear on Idol or The Voice - she can hold a tune but there's no personality or power to it. The music is the same - there's nothing totally unlistenable on it but there's also zero that held my attention. It's generic , write it in your sleep stuff.

Pretty much as expected.

Rating : 60%
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Post by: wolfking on July 27, 2015, 05:35:51 AM: As we expected Brent. I ain't even gonna listen to it. :hat
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 27, 2015, 06:03:42 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 27, 2015, 05:35:51 AM
As we expected Brent. I ain't even gonna listen to it. :hat

Anything with Tolkki is an automatic PASS for me now.
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Post by: wolfking on July 27, 2015, 06:09:26 AM: Sad but true.
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Post by: TAC on July 31, 2015, 05:44:49 PM: HELL FUCKING YES!!
https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-release-official-battering-ram-music-video-new-album-details-revealed

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2015%20II/saxonbattering.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2015, 06:21:34 PM: Fucking workhorse of a band.

New song is fucking good too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 31, 2015, 07:14:09 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 31, 2015, 06:21:34 PM
Fucking workhorse of a band.

New song is fucking good too.

That album cover is so cool!!
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Post by: Deathless on August 03, 2015, 07:34:58 AM: New Stryper album's title track - "Fallen" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=45&v=IBdoO1FUdng)

I dig the song... but some of that auto-tune/modulation is just, awful.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 03, 2015, 09:36:32 AM: great tune
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Post by: TAC on August 04, 2015, 01:13:09 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/udo-dirkschneider-announces-definitive-farewell-to-accept-song-library-special-tour-to-launch-in-2016
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 04, 2015, 05:49:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 04, 2015, 01:13:09 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/udo-dirkschneider-announces-definitive-farewell-to-accept-song-library-special-tour-to-launch-in-2016

yeah right
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Post by: bl5150 on August 04, 2015, 05:57:22 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 04, 2015, 05:49:59 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 04, 2015, 01:13:09 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/udo-dirkschneider-announces-definitive-farewell-to-accept-song-library-special-tour-to-launch-in-2016

yeah right

Same tour manager as the KISS Farewell Tour in 2000 ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 04, 2015, 06:02:38 PM: "No More Tours" by Ozzy in the early 90s as well
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Post by: bl5150 on August 04, 2015, 11:24:30 PM: I have a feeling I don't want to hear the music ,but loving the album title/cover ;D

(https://cdn.discogs.com/KeOgfJeOOs6o1FuQJE7XFLMXE2w=/fit-in/600x568/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-1598011-1274805244.jpeg.jpg)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on August 05, 2015, 02:43:48 AM: Cool cover :tup And Kurt Russell is such a badass, he needs his own tribute album. But like you, I have the feeling that this isn't my cup of tea.
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Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2015, 05:39:32 AM: A Kurt Russell tribute album..........................I have no issue with that.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 05, 2015, 10:25:34 PM: Well I have a major announcement to make...........

Darren Smith has rejoined Red Dragon Carousel ;D . Seriously. :lol

Apologies for the lack of action around here but I have been too busy Rouletting and Savataging.

I also forgot to get those ratings collated for Martin era Sabbath , so here they are. And while we have roulettes going on and so forth I will slow the feature bands down to maybe 1-2 per month. Will look to get another up for next week.

MARTIN ERA SABBATH RESULTS:

Albums:

1. Tyr / Headless Cross (TIE)
2. Eternal Idol/Cross Purposes (TIE)
3 Forbidden

Songs:

The most popular songs that got mentioned in all of our lists (me , Kade and jj)

Headless Cross
Devil & Daughter
The Sabbath Stones
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 05, 2015, 10:32:10 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 05, 2015, 10:25:34 PM
Darren Smith has rejoined Red Dragon Carousel ;D . Seriously. :lol

Nice name. :lol That's a real shame. A better vocalist would be necessary for me to be interested in another album (if they could manage a whole recording process before changing lineup again).
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 06, 2015, 12:30:47 AM: I read about that RDC and Smith rejoining on blabbermouth.

Its beyond ridiculous.

This can't be a real situation with Jake. It has to be a gimmick he came up with to get attention as no one could go through that many singers in such a short timeframe. Its funny, but still ridiculous.
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Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2015, 05:09:14 AM: I couldn't give a shit about this Red Dragon band. Such a shame and waste of Jake's talent.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 06, 2015, 10:52:07 AM: Q5 have signed for Frontiers apparently. Hoping for a Steel The Light style metal gem rather than a When The Mirror Cracks AOR bore fest. They've been quiet for a long time so not expecting much tbh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 06, 2015, 11:32:32 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 06, 2015, 10:52:07 AM
Q5 have signed for Frontiers apparently. Hoping for a Steel The Light style metal gem rather than a When The Mirror Cracks AOR bore fest. They've been quiet for a long time so not expecting much tbh.

I remember reading about that a while back ..........that they were reforming (maybe not about Frontiers). At that stage at least it didn't include Floyd Rose. As a guitarist that was what brought them to my attention back in the day- otherwise I probably wouldn't have noticed.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 06, 2015, 03:27:04 PM: Might interest you Kade - Tony Macalpine Aussie Tour

Saturday, October 3: John Inverarity Music & Drama Centre - Perth
Monday, October 5: The Gov Hindmarsh - Adelaide
Wednesday, October 7: The Bendigo Hotel - Melbourne
Friday, October 9: Wesley Theatre - Sydney
Saturday, October 10: Crowbar - Brisbane
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Post by: wolfking on August 07, 2015, 04:16:10 PM: Yeah saw that bro. A Saturday night so I'll think I'll go. To see both EOI and MS played in full would certainly be a treat.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 08, 2015, 03:30:10 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 06, 2015, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 06, 2015, 10:52:07 AM
Q5 have signed for Frontiers apparently. Hoping for a Steel The Light style metal gem rather than a When The Mirror Cracks AOR bore fest. They've been quiet for a long time so not expecting much tbh.

I remember reading about that a while back ..........that they were reforming (maybe not about Frontiers). At that stage at least it didn't include Floyd Rose. As a guitarist that was what brought them to my attention back in the day- otherwise I probably wouldn't have noticed.

Yeah, there's no floyd rose.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 10, 2015, 09:37:08 PM: New Saxon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oLC0nOfWGc
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 11, 2015, 12:16:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 10, 2015, 09:37:08 PM
New Saxon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oLC0nOfWGc

awesome!
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Post by: bl5150 on August 13, 2015, 04:37:01 AM: Sample from upcoming Lynch Mob.

Sounds alright

https://youtu.be/TmTdcK9RVwU

AND

Armored Saint supporting the 'Ryche

https://youtu.be/Cs7B8ovCQS0?t=437

Bush sounds fucking fantastic.
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Post by: TAC on August 13, 2015, 06:20:12 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 13, 2015, 04:37:01 AM

Armored Saint supporting the 'Ryche

https://youtu.be/Cs7B8ovCQS0?t=437

Bush sounds fucking fantastic.
Dude, that gave me goosebumps. I maintain that I am DTF's biggest Armored Saint fan. And that video is coupled with Aftermath which is an A+ AS tune.

Great sound and picture. And Gonzo is the heaviest drummer I have ever seen live. He literally makes the floor shake.
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Post by: TAC on August 13, 2015, 08:29:14 AM: New Black Majesty sampler.
Sounds awesome! I'm all over this!
https://bravewords.com/news/black-majesty-cross-of-thorns-audio-sampler-unleashed
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 13, 2015, 09:32:52 AM: Never heard of Black Majesty. Sounds like textbook power metal

And Armored Saint kicks major ass!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 13, 2015, 10:15:12 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 13, 2015, 09:32:52 AM
Never heard of Black Majesty. Sounds like textbook power metal

Sounds like an African-American Dream Theater cover band.
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Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2015, 04:03:21 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 13, 2015, 09:32:52 AM
Never heard of Black Majesty. Sounds like textbook power metal

Yes, a standard Aussie power metal band, but they are extremelly reliable and all their albums are really good actually. Recommend Silent Company for a first timer.

Those samples sound really good too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on August 14, 2015, 07:16:09 AM: New WASP track!

Blabbermouth (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/new-song-premiere-w-a-s-p-s-last-runaway/)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 14, 2015, 07:23:49 AM: Quote from: Deathless on August 14, 2015, 07:16:09 AM
New WASP track!

Blabbermouth (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/new-song-premiere-w-a-s-p-s-last-runaway/)

Sounds like New Jersey era Bon Jovi featuring Blackie :lol Hopefully that's the single........good enough song but not much WASP attitude in there. It does sound better than many of their albums , so that's a good thing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 14, 2015, 08:11:43 AM: Time for another feature band - two actually. Coming up in Tim's roulette we will have a Winger extravaganza over the next week and here , seeing as they're topical right now with a new album , I thought we could discuss Saxon.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XMh8r92gHpo/UV_QADswTRI/AAAAAAAAJAo/1rsSu42_MTg/s1600/Saxon+Logo.png)

(https://static.iltalehti.fi/viihde/saxongaga2MP_503_vi.jpg)

It's only in recent times that I have had a really good listen to the Saxon discography. I had some odds and sods growing up but was never a big fan. They were actually one of the first metal bands I saw on a music video too - right next to two of the most influential videos of my life.

I had taped a music video show we have down here called Rage (still going too)...........this would be about 1986 (so 12 yo) and first up on this VHS was the triple shot "live" videos for Runnin With The Devil, You Really Got Me and Jamie's Cryin' , followed by Ozzy's Lightning Strikes ..............so I immediately fell in love with Jake E Lee and rushed out to get The Ultimate Sin.

After these was this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBbjtb-ffDk

and you know............first impressions and all.........a very "happy" Def Leppard was my first thought. :lol A song from Rock The Nations probably wasn't the best example for me.

Go for it - any thoughts on Saxon , rank the albums (or top 5) and , if you can , Top 10 songs.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 14, 2015, 08:17:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 14, 2015, 08:11:43 AM
I had taped a music video show we have down here called Rage (still going too)...........this would be about 1986 (so 12 yo) and first up on this VHS was the triple shot "live" videos for Runnin With The Devil, You Really Got Me and Jamie's Cryin' , followed by Ozzy's Lightning Strikes ..............so I immediately fell in love with Jake E Lee and rushed out to get The Ultimate Sin.

After these was this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBbjtb-ffDk

Yeah, you can't compete with that run of songs. :lol

Ah, the good old Rage tapes. We had several tapes from the early 1990s with some good stuff. Not the gold you were getting, but I do remember watching Bohemian Rhapsody endlessly (hated it at first for being weird and long, ended up loving it).

Got nothing to say about Saxon though. Carry on.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2015, 09:32:25 AM: That WASP sounds decent, nothing great though

Big Saxon fan, I'll come up with a list later
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Post by: Deathless on August 14, 2015, 01:13:30 PM: Never listened to Saxon before, but listening to a couple of their greatest hits albums on Spotify. Really good stuff. Catchy songs, good melody, some harder hitters. Will try and start with their oldest stuff and work through before commenting further.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2015, 03:58:03 PM: Albums

1) Sacrifice 2) Power & the Glory 3) Denim and Leather 4) Unleash the Beast 5) Metal Head

Songs

1) 747 2) Power & the Glory 3) And the Band Played On 4) Ride like the Wind 5) Eagle has Landed 6) Broken Heroes 7) Crusader 8) Heavy Metal Thunder 9) Thin Red Line 10) Sacrifice
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2015, 04:25:18 PM: Quote from: Deathless on August 14, 2015, 07:16:09 AM
New WASP track!

Blabbermouth (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/new-song-premiere-w-a-s-p-s-last-runaway/)

What the fucking fuck is this?

I'm looking at the album cover while listening to this confused as fuck, this doesn't make sense. At least it has some variety compared to what they have been doing. Reminds me of a Forever Free type song, and for a melodic rock style track, it's pretty good. Production and recording sounds clear and professional too. If the heavy tracks can have this freshness and sound in them, we could be in for a good album. Just totally threw me this.

Saxon are incredible too but one band that I'm more familiar with their later stuff than the earlier stuff. I think their last 5 albums or so have been incredible, Sacrifice for one was amazing.
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2015, 04:27:16 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 14, 2015, 04:25:18 PM

Saxon are incredible .... I think their last 5 albums or so have been incredible, Sacrifice for one was amazing.
So true. They were legends to begin with. They have gone to a whole new level. With their last half dozen albums, they have gone from a Top 15-20 band for me to close to a Top 10.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2015, 04:27:28 PM: Check out older Saxon Kade, you won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 14, 2015, 04:34:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 14, 2015, 04:27:28 PM
Check out older Saxon Kade, you won't be disappointed.
https://www.amazon.com/Carrere-Years-1979-1984-SAXON/dp/B0079043T8/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1439591517&sr=1-1&keywords=Saxon+carrere+years

The best $22 you can ever spend on music.

Their first 6 albums and first live album. 7 CDs worth!!
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Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2015, 04:43:02 PM: I got into Saxon from the time of Lionheart, so they were one of those bands I prodominately just went with from there for some reason. Saying that, just had a look and I own all these on CD;

Heavy Metal Thunder 2CD
Dogs of War
Killing Ground
Metalhead
Power and the Glory
Rock the Nations
Solid Ball of Rock
The Eagle Has Landed 3 live cd
Unleash the Beast
Wheels of Steel

I think I just grabbed most of those around the same time as a lot of them were going cheap and never gave them a lot of repeated listens, just kept going back to the later stuff.
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2015, 04:45:02 PM: Lionheart is awesome and it pulled me back in after really not paying any attention to them throughout the 90's.
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Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2015, 04:48:19 PM: Bruce Dickinson I remember at the time had a radio show and played the title track of Lionheart. I immediately took notice and went out and got the album that weekend once Bruce said who it was.
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2015, 04:58:56 PM: For me, I was trying to get into Stratovarius at the time and I heard that Jorg Michel was the drummer on the new Saxon album. So I bought my first new Saxon album in over 15 years.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2015, 05:02:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2015, 04:34:23 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 14, 2015, 04:27:28 PM
Check out older Saxon Kade, you won't be disappointed.
https://www.amazon.com/Carrere-Years-1979-1984-SAXON/dp/B0079043T8/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1439591517&sr=1-1&keywords=Saxon+carrere+years

The best $22 you can ever spend on music.

Their first 6 albums and first live album. 7 CDs worth!!

Why do record companies do this? I know it's a budget thing, but splitting the albums like this just seems silly.
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2015, 05:07:43 PM: I don't disagree, but it is a great collection. I bought it myself.
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Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2015, 05:50:05 PM: Just listened to Metalhead, fuckin' good!
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Post by: bl5150 on August 14, 2015, 06:16:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2015, 04:58:56 PM
For me, I was trying to get into Stratovarius at the time and I heard that Jorg Michel was the drummer on the new Saxon album. So I bought my first new Saxon album in over 15 years.

Is that how you got into everything - Jorg Michael has played for everyone :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2015, 08:04:08 PM: That looks like a good collection, but getting each album on their own is mandatory IMO

Saxon is one of the most consistent metal bands of all time
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Post by: bl5150 on August 15, 2015, 06:03:37 PM: New Hoekstra song feat. Russell Allen .................not quite what I was hoping for but it's alright I suppose.

https://youtu.be/dIIv5xn0t9c
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 15, 2015, 07:34:13 PM: Allen is a busy guy
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Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2015, 03:36:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 15, 2015, 06:03:37 PM
New Hoekstra song feat. Russell Allen .................not quite what I was hoping for but it's alright I suppose.

https://youtu.be/dIIv5xn0t9c

Did nothing for me. Solo was good though.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 16, 2015, 12:57:32 PM: Saxon were one of my first favourite bands back in the depths of time when great bands were rare. I loved those first few albums but when they went all LA in search of the mighty dollar I dropped them pretty quickly.
I only started to give themthem another go aboutabout 3 years or so ag.o.
It appears iImissed out on some good stuff
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 16, 2015, 02:21:12 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 16, 2015, 12:57:32 PM
Saxon were one of my first favourite bands back in the depths of time when great bands were rare. I loved those first few albums but when they went all LA in search of the mighty dollar I dropped them pretty quickly.
I only started to give themthem another go aboutabout 3 years or so ag.o.
It appears iImissed out on some good stuff

Never too late to backtrack and get what you missed
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Post by: TAC on August 18, 2015, 01:15:59 PM: Well it sounded AWESOME until the vocals started.
https://bravewords.com/news/act-of-defiance-featuring-former-megadeth-members-streaming-debut-album-in-full-north-american-co-headline-tour-with-allegaeon-announced
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 18, 2015, 01:41:10 PM: Anyone else putting up a Saxon list?

That band is very underated
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 18, 2015, 01:57:04 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 18, 2015, 01:41:10 PM
Anyone else putting up a Saxon list?

Sorry, I've been working on my Winger list! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 18, 2015, 01:58:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 18, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 18, 2015, 01:41:10 PM
Anyone else putting up a Saxon list?

Sorry, I've been working on my Winger list! :lol

top ten worst?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on August 18, 2015, 01:59:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 18, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 18, 2015, 01:41:10 PM
Anyone else putting up a Saxon list?

Sorry, I've been working on my Winger list! :lol

Your going to rub that down to a nub if you don't leave it alone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 18, 2015, 02:04:42 PM: Quote from: Podaar on August 18, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 18, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 18, 2015, 01:41:10 PM
Anyone else putting up a Saxon list?

Sorry, I've been working on my Winger list! :lol

Your going to rub that down to a nub if you don't leave it alone.
:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 18, 2015, 02:24:28 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 18, 2015, 01:41:10 PM
Anyone else putting up a Saxon list?

That band is very underated

I could do an albums list but I haven't heard half of them. A songs list would just be from album 2 to Power and the Glory.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2015, 05:00:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 18, 2015, 01:15:59 PM
Well it sounded AWESOME until the vocals started.
https://bravewords.com/news/act-of-defiance-featuring-former-megadeth-members-streaming-debut-album-in-full-north-american-co-headline-tour-with-allegaeon-announced

Fuck no, this is pretty damn good. Picking this up for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 19, 2015, 04:40:04 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 18, 2015, 01:41:10 PM
Anyone else putting up a Saxon list?

That band is very underated

Not as popular as I thought , but we are all a bit Winger focused at the moment :lol

I will get my list up tomorrow and for the next band I'll make it a big one.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 19, 2015, 04:43:18 AM: Nice avatar, bl5150. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on August 20, 2015, 06:48:05 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 19, 2015, 04:43:18 AM
Nice avatar, bl5150. :lol
:)

I haven't had much time to listen to Saxon........some serious financial shit going down about now and not in "music mode" at the moment , which is a rare thing.

Having said that.........I'll just refer to the ones I have rated.

1. Innocence Is No Excuse
2. Strong Arm Of The Law
3. Wheels Of Steel
4. Crusader
5. Power And The glory

It was just me and jj so I won't bother with a summary.

Some of my favourite tracks

The Eagle Has Landed
Sacrifice
Strong Arm Of The Law
Taking Your Chances
Rockin Again
Call Of The Wild
Devil RIdes Out
Broken Heroes
Gonna Shout.

What do we like better guys ................Winger's Seventeen or Saxon's Sixth Form Girls (just sixteen...teenage dream) :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on August 20, 2015, 07:22:05 AM: New Circle II Circle due this fall...

Quote
Following the impressive main-stage performance of Zak Stevens with SAVATAGE and TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA in front of 80,000 people at Wacken Open Air festival 2015, Zak and his band CIRCLE II CIRCLE will release their new album, "Reign Of Darkness", on October 16 via earMUSIC.

earMUSIC/Edel and Zak Stevens have enjoyed critical acclaim and commercial success together over the years with SAVATAGE albums like "Edge Of Thorns", "The Wake Of Magellan" and "Dead Winter Dead" (true milestones of hard rock and metal and some of the biggest charts metal successes of the '90s) and CIRCLE II CIRCLE albums such as "Seasons Will Fall" alike.

CIRCLE II CIRCLE is a band that has been reinventing itself through the years, but maintaining that signature sound that fans around the world love. "Reign Of Darkness" is no exception to that attitude, bringing out the very best CIRCLE II CIRCLE has to offer. Needless to say, "Reign Of Darkness" overshadows what has been done before.

Says Stevens: "You might say that 'Reign Of Darkness' represents a musical reinvention for us, but the minute you hear each song you know right away that it's CIRCLE II CIRCLE. We wanted to pay homage to the past, but we also wanted to create a musical renaissance within our genre that is fresh and energetic. This is an album that will positively pave the way for our future."

"Reign Of Darkness" features the powerful metal sound, strong hard rock riffs, both emphasizing Zak Stevens's passionate melodic rock vocals. Again, the band has created something new, something fresh and vigorous. And the artwork definitely sets new standards.

"Reign Of Darkness" track listing:

01. Over-Underture
02. Victim Of The Night
03. Untold Dreams
04. It's All Over
05. One More Day
06. Ghost Of The Devil
07. Somewhere
08. Deep Within
09. Taken Away
10. Sinister Love
11. Solitary Rain

CIRCLE II CIRCLE is:

Zak Stevens (SAVATAGE) - Vocals
Mitch Stewart - Bass/Vocals
Bill Hudson (POWER QUEST, CELLADOR) - Guitars/Vocals
Christian Wentz - Guitars/Vocals
Henning Wanner (WHITE LION, JADED HEART) - Keyboards/Vocals
Marcelo Moreira (ALMAH, SYMBOLICA, MARMOR) - Drums

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/circleiicirclereigncd.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on August 20, 2015, 09:32:19 AM: Sorry I haven't been responding to the Saxon talk. A little buried musically at the minute.

Too 5 albums:
Power And The Glory
Crusader
Strong Arm Of The Law
Sacrifice
Call To Arms

I'm sure I'm missing a ton but Off the too of my head for songs:
Power And The Glory
This Town Rocks
20,000 Feet
Hammer Of The Gods
Witchfynder General
Call To Arms
Night Of The Wolf
Guardians Of The Tomb
Strong Arm Of a The Law
Dallas 1PM

I LOVE SAXON!!
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Post by: bl5150 on August 20, 2015, 11:01:53 AM: (https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/megadethaustralia2015tourposter.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2015, 12:45:58 PM: Interesting pick Brent with Innocence at number 1

New Circle II Circle!! Great news, these guys are work horses for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 20, 2015, 12:49:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 20, 2015, 12:45:58 PM
Interesting pick Brent with Innocence at number 1

I was thinking the same thing. I basically checked out at that point.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 20, 2015, 04:43:51 PM: Power and Glory

Strong arm

Wheels of steel

Inner sanctum

Into the labyrinth

Songs? Too many

I do love 747, Dallas 1pm, suzie hold on, and the bands played on, Midas touch, crusader
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Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2015, 05:25:26 PM: Fuck yes for CIIC, last one was awesome. I've seen Megadeth twice now so I probably won't bother. Bodom would be good to see though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2015, 06:46:13 PM: Tate showed some signs of coming back but just totally relapsed again. This could easily fit on FU. The name Operation Mindcrime shouldn't be associated with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlVE5CvFc9c
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2015, 07:04:21 PM: The first song was way better.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2015, 07:22:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 20, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
The first song was way better.

Probably the only song on the album of it's kind I reckon. I think they'll all be shit like this second one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2015, 07:54:22 PM: I will say that the first song is excellent, I'm playing it quite often. This one is subpar for sure. Hopefully some other decent songs on the album, but we will see
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 21, 2015, 01:48:25 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 20, 2015, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 20, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
The first song was way better.

Probably the only song on the album of it's kind I reckon. I think they'll all be shit like this second one.

Agreed. First song was surprisingly good.this is what I would expect from Tate and the cronies who've been writing his stuff for years.
Move along. Nothing to see here.
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2015, 06:32:30 AM: Even the lead song, Cold from FU which still wasn't in the Ryche vein whatsoever was a really decent rock tune but every other song was garbage as we know. I think I can safely say, there will be even worse songs on this album again.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 21, 2015, 07:03:12 AM: I continue to refuse to give any of my time to Tate.

Saxon... I've tried, and find them very enjoyable, just not something I gravitate back to. That Carere years set was a great purchase.
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Post by: TAC on August 21, 2015, 06:22:23 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 21, 2015, 07:03:12 AM
I continue to refuse to give any of my time to Tate.

Saxon... I've tried, and find them very enjoyable, just not something I gravitate back to. That Carere years set was a great purchase.
Yes it is.

Saxon is your basic NWOBHM. There is nothing really spectacular about them but their longevity and consistent quality is really unmatched.

The second half of their career is as good as their first half, and in metal, that is really rare, save for Iron Maiden.

When I think of classic heavy metal, I think of Saxon.
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2015, 06:28:43 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 21, 2015, 07:03:12 AM
Saxon... I've tried, and find them very enjoyable, just not something I gravitate back to. That Carere years set was a great purchase.

Try some of their newer stuff. Modern production with good songs and performances, I much prefer and always go to the last 5 or so albums.
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Post by: TAC on August 21, 2015, 06:34:25 PM: Yeah Chad I agree. Sacrifice and Call To Arms ( their last two ) are two of their best.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2015, 06:37:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 21, 2015, 06:34:25 PM
Yeah Chad I agree. Sacrifice and Call To Arms ( their last two ) are two of their best.

Yes. Highly recommended
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Post by: bl5150 on August 21, 2015, 08:47:15 PM: I don't have Call To Arms but was disappointed with Sacrifice..........I loved the title track but thought nothing else came close and it was all a bit the same. Same way I felt about the last Primal Fear - one awesome track and then just alright. I don't think any Saxon album had any more than three 5 star rated tracks , so they were all rated around 80%......I will go back and revisit those ratings when I get a chance as my taste has changed a bit in recent times and they may get more love from me now.
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Post by: ozzy554 on August 22, 2015, 12:46:12 PM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/slash-confirms-he-and-axl-rose-are-friends-again-it-was-probably-way-overdue/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/slash-confirms-he-and-axl-rose-are-friends-again-it-was-probably-way-overdue/)

Satan must be skating his way to work today because hell has officially frozen over.
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Post by: Deathless on August 22, 2015, 06:37:17 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on August 22, 2015, 12:46:12 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/slash-confirms-he-and-axl-rose-are-friends-again-it-was-probably-way-overdue/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/slash-confirms-he-and-axl-rose-are-friends-again-it-was-probably-way-overdue/)

Satan must be skating his way to work today because hell has officially frozen over.

Timing of it all seems so coincidental too. Guns two main guitarists are out, Slash and Axl suddenly rekindle their friendship...
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 22, 2015, 08:23:14 PM: new album in 2025
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2015, 10:26:09 PM: I get the feeling the word "friend" here is being used generously. :lol I wouldn't hold my breath for any kind of reunion.
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Post by: Bolsters on August 22, 2015, 10:31:47 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2015, 10:26:09 PM
I wouldn't hold my breath for any kind of reunion.
Neither would I.
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2015, 03:32:53 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2015, 08:47:15 PM
I don't have Call To Arms but was disappointed with Sacrifice..........I loved the title track but thought nothing else came close and it was all a bit the same. Same way I felt about the last Primal Fear - one awesome track and then just alright. I don't think any Saxon album had any more than three 5 star rated tracks , so they were all rated around 80%......I will go back and revisit those ratings when I get a chance as my taste has changed a bit in recent times and they may get more love from me now.

Sacrifice was much more of a grower compared to the last few before them. I also wasn't floored by it at first, but it just never more spins.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2015, 06:28:48 AM: Just got through my first listen of the new Lynch Mob and it has a couple of really strong tracks but as an album there's too many plodders for my liking. Oni sounds fantastic but it just doesn't rock enough overall. 78%
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2015, 07:11:57 AM: I liked the Robert Mason Lynch Mob album the best from what I've heard from them. What would you rate the first two LM albums Brent?
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Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2015, 08:12:01 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 23, 2015, 07:11:57 AM
I liked the Robert Mason Lynch Mob album the best from what I've heard from them. What would you rate the first two LM albums Brent?

I rated the Mason one 92% but haven't done a rating on the debut but I guess it'd be high 80's-90% if memory serves correct. The Mason one is a bit darker and has some great stuff on it .......I haven't listened to it in a while but When Darkness Calls comes to mind as a favourite. The bonus track is a good one too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2015, 12:29:19 PM: yeah I thought the second album was better too
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Post by: Lowdz on August 23, 2015, 12:39:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 23, 2015, 12:29:19 PM
yeah I thought the second album was better too

whilst i loved ws, that 2nd one is better. could have done without the queen cover, but otherwise a solid album. WS probably had 2-3 of the better songs, but not as consistent.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2015, 12:52:15 PM: not much of a fan of that queen cover either
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Post by: TAC on August 23, 2015, 05:49:54 PM: I seriously don't think I've ever heard a single Lynch Mob album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2015, 10:03:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 23, 2015, 05:49:54 PM
I seriously don't think I've ever heard a single Lynch Mob album.

Not too late for a Lynch Mob round in the roulette
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Post by: bl5150 on August 24, 2015, 04:11:13 AM: This is for Paul..............given his posts in the 90's thread (which I agree with). I thought I would post it here rather than ruffle feathers in the 90's thread but this album got a laugh out of me

(https://s22.postimg.org/arpgv4hup/680065_img.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2015, 05:38:53 AM: To be fair, there is qutie a lot of shit on that cover, and I don't mind some of the old 90's one hit wonder type stuff.
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Post by: TAC on August 24, 2015, 06:35:52 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 23, 2015, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 23, 2015, 05:49:54 PM
I seriously don't think I've ever heard a single Lynch Mob album.

Not too late for a Lynch Mob round in the roulette
Yes it is!! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on August 25, 2015, 01:08:12 AM: Later in the week I am going to be very reluctantly parting with one of my most prized possessions :'( One or two of you are aware of my journey from retired 33 yo to struggling 40yo - a long story that I won't bore you with about being way too nice and letting myself get taken for a ride by a mate in a disastrous property deal...........but family comes first and I'm forced to sell up/cash up and try to rebuild.

For the sake of posterity.......here's a photo of my 5150 number plates. (the 5150th pair of plates ever issued in my state of Victoria , originally produced in the 1930's). I'm much sadder about the plates than the car .

(https://s2.postimg.org/xa2rxs63d/jag2.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 25, 2015, 01:24:58 AM: Sweet car!!

But don't forget, no matter what you'll always have the rock/metal (and the rest of us at DTF)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 25, 2015, 01:35:53 AM: Really sorry to hear that. And those are awesome plates too.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 25, 2015, 03:30:16 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 25, 2015, 01:24:58 AM
Sweet car!!

But don't forget, no matter what you'll always have the rock/metal (and the rest of us at DTF)

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 25, 2015, 01:35:53 AM
Really sorry to hear that. And those are awesome plates too.

Thanks guys .......picking up those plates was a miracle in itself , so it's hard to part with them.

And yes.......my music and you crazy dudes go a long way to keeping me sane . Looking at Tim's Roulette thread that last sentence makes no sense. :lol

Part of my penance for all this may be a move to Queensland for a while , so there could be DTF double trouble coming out of that part of the world (me and Kade)
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Post by: Lowdz on August 25, 2015, 05:06:15 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 25, 2015, 03:30:16 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 25, 2015, 01:24:58 AM
Sweet car!!

But don't forget, no matter what you'll always have the rock/metal (and the rest of us at DTF)

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 25, 2015, 01:35:53 AM
Really sorry to hear that. And those are awesome plates too.

Thanks guys .......picking up those plates was a miracle in itself , so it's hard to part with them.

And yes.......my music and you crazy dudes go a long way to keeping me sane . Looking at Tim's Roulette thread that last sentence makes no sense. :lol

Part of my penance for all this may be a move to Queensland for a while , so there could be DTF double trouble coming out of that part of the world (me and Kade)

:tup

Life can be shit, and bastards like that don't make it any easier.

I would like to come and visit your homeland one day, but you'd have to hoover up all the snakes and spiders first or I ain't getting off the plane :omg:
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Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2015, 05:26:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 25, 2015, 03:30:16 AM
Part of my penance for all this may be a move to Queensland for a while , so there could be DTF double trouble coming out of that part of the world (me and Kade)

Man, that would be awesome!

That car and the plates are sweet man, sounds like some story so sorry to hear you gotta part with it. Memories are precious though.
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Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2015, 05:36:24 AM: Fuck, TMac sick possibly with cancer, tour postponed.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tony-macalpine-postpones-asia-and-australia-tours-due-to-illness-cancer-suspected/

"Last week I was taken to the hospital with severe stomach pains. Following blood work, multiple MRI scans and various procedures, medical doctors discovered a large mass in my intestine, and it seems likely that we are dealing with cancer. My doctors have advised me that this will need to be dealt with immediately, and I am scheduled for surgery this week. Recovery from this surgery will take a month — right when I was scheduled to tour the Australasian region."

He continues: "Providing all goes well, it is our understanding I should be well enough to perform on the coming European tour.

"For Australia and Asia, we are working on rescheduling the shows. We will advise you as soon as possible when the new dates are booked."

MacAlpine adds: "We apologize for any inconvenience these tour postponements have caused, but I'm determined to make these dates up, and rock your city soon!"

Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tony-macalpine-postpones-asia-and-australia-tours-due-to-illness-cancer-suspected/#IoFiYs4Km1pW5MwX.99

I feel quite ill right now, this sucks for him. Beat this TMac! Fuck cancer.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 25, 2015, 06:11:27 AM: Yeah, fuck cancer. That's a bitch. Thinking good thoughts for him.
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Post by: Bolsters on August 25, 2015, 06:13:21 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 25, 2015, 06:11:27 AM
Yeah, fuck cancer.
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Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2015, 06:14:17 AM: Was looking forward to going to the show too, but that's not an issue here, sending good prayers his way. Not much info but seems like he's onto it pretty quick, wishing all the best.
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Post by: TAC on August 25, 2015, 06:25:51 AM: Yeah, that's too bad. And HE's apologizing?

He seems like a cool guy and when my Roulette is over I will be looking for starting points with him. (Don't list 'em here/now).

Saw this this morning:
https://www.guitarworld.com/21-best-kiss-songs

It's actually the 21 most underrated Kiss Songs.

Strange Ways! King Of The Mountain! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on August 25, 2015, 06:43:10 AM: Damn - sorry to hear that about TMac :'(
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Post by: Lowdz on August 25, 2015, 07:32:09 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 25, 2015, 06:25:51 AM
Yeah, that's too bad. And HE's apologizing?

He seems like a cool guy and when my Roulette is over I will be looking for starting points with him. (Don't list 'em here/now).

Saw this this morning:
https://www.guitarworld.com/21-best-kiss-songs

It's actually the 21 most underrated Kiss Songs.

Strange Ways! King Of The Mountain! :metal

The only thing that would get me to a KISS concert these days is a setlist of the "album tracks". My favourite KISS songs are all those they never play live.

STrange ways is such a great song. Ace had a style all his own when it comes to songwriting. That solo :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on August 25, 2015, 08:07:51 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 25, 2015, 07:32:09 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 25, 2015, 06:25:51 AM
Yeah, that's too bad. And HE's apologizing?

He seems like a cool guy and when my Roulette is over I will be looking for starting points with him. (Don't list 'em here/now).

Saw this this morning:
https://www.guitarworld.com/21-best-kiss-songs

It's actually the 21 most underrated Kiss Songs.

Strange Ways! King Of The Mountain! :metal

The only thing that would get me to a KISS concert these days is a setlist of the "album tracks". My favourite KISS songs are all those they never play live.

STrange ways is such a great song. Ace had a style all his own when it comes to songwriting. That solo :metal

This may not quite be what you're after Paul, but back in 2004 they did a gig here in Melbourne that I attended at a smaller venue (in addition to the regular arena gigs) that was a bit more for the diehard fans.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/kiss/2004/palais-theatre-melbourne-australia-3d405ef.html
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 25, 2015, 08:10:39 AM: They did that here in Sydney too, although I only got to see the arena show (didn't know about the smaller one until that night and had no money anyway). Even the arena show had less played songs that they haven't really done since, probably because those songs tanked. But I dug hearing all of those tracks, especially Tears Are Falling, which got a tumbleweed response from the crowd. :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 25, 2015, 08:21:39 AM: That is a great setlist.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 25, 2015, 01:33:44 PM: Hope for the best for TMac

Some great Kiss songs on that list. Exciter is a great tune as is the entire Lick it Up album.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 25, 2015, 01:56:23 PM: Yeah I was aware of this gig. Much better than the usual setlist. I guess the KISS cruise is the best chance of hearing the deeper tracks now. When the lottery win happens I'm there.

PLayed Creatures and LIU today. Great albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 25, 2015, 09:10:31 PM: OK............I said that my next feature band would be a big one. More powerful than Animotion and Duran Duran put together , I present Judas Priest :metal :metal

(https://judaspriest.metalkingdom.net/photo/data/NewPriestLogoWhite_1024.jpg)
(https://30daysout.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/px57avxsq6e5bx45olx7.jpg)

Some may not call the pic above the classic lineup but for me it's Painkiller all the way. I had been a casual listener for a while prior to Painkiller and was already a big fan of The Sentinel (possibly still my fave song) and Bloodstone etc.... but it was only with the release of Painkiller that I became a serious fan and began buying up their albums . I then worked my way back and although I have a couple of others , for me it's all about British Steel through to Painkiller.

As per usual...........share some thoughts on the band, rank the albums (or Top 5) and ,if you're able , Top 10 songs.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 25, 2015, 10:28:43 PM: The definition of heavy metal

This is tough to pick but albums

1) Defenders of the Faith 2) SFV 3) Painkiller 4) Killing Machine 5) Stained Class

Songs

1) Hellion/Electric Eye 2) Touch of Evil 3) Sentinel 4) Hell Patrol 5) Jawbreaker 6) Beyond the Realms of Death 7) Bloodstone 8) Desert Plains 9) I'm a Rocker 10) Blood Red Skies

The songs are not set in stone but there is no question that 98 Live Meltdown would be my all time favorite live album. Rippers performance is unmatched on that one
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Post by: Kwyjibo on August 26, 2015, 12:29:21 AM: British Steel is good, Painkiller is excellent, I laughed hard when I heard Turbo Lover for the first time and in my band we played Living After Midnight and Breaking The Law. Other than that I can't comment much on Judas Priest.

This is just another band that mostly escaped me for some reasons in my youth, and now I just don't have the time to listen to all the bands I've missed :'(
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Post by: Evermind on August 26, 2015, 03:02:24 AM: Judas Priest. :metal

Albums:

1) Sad Wings of Destiny
2) Nostradamus (yes, I'm serious)
3) Painkiller
4) Defenders of the Faith
5) Stained Class (or British Steel, actually. I need to re-listen to both)

Songs are more difficult, will do them later today or tomorrow.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 03:52:04 AM: Great band. So influential.

Albums

1 Defenders
2 British Steel

3 Turbo
4 Painkiller
5 SFV

If live albums count then Unleashed iN The East is top.

Songs will need a little more thought and will have to wait until after work!
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Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 05:13:03 AM: 1. Jugulator
2. Painkiller
3. Defenders of the Faith
4. Sin After Sin
5. Ram it Down

Yes, weird rankings I know. Jugulator has a strong nostalgia factor that most of you already know, but really Painkiller I would have no issue being number 1 either, it's a perfect metal album. Sin After Sin I think it terribly underrated and full of brilliant songs, and Ram It Down, I just love the variety and the bit of cheese. Turbo could go in here too, love that one too.

Top 10 songs........you could make multiple top 10 lists and they would all be valid. I'll have a crack though;

1. Painkiller
2. Beyond the Realms of Death
3. Touch of Evil
4. One Shot At Glory
5. Cathedral Spires
6. Rock Hard Ride Free
7. Here Come the Tears
8. Between the Hammer and the Anvil
9. I'm A Rocker
10. Desert Plains
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Post by: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 05:22:42 AM: Wow,.....I have Jugulator and never really played it. I will make sure I do before I get my rankings out there. No need to post in the album thread for the next week.........all day Priest for the next day or two and then all jingle.roulette.list from there.

I should also check out Live Meltdown. Ripper destroyed my ears when I saw them so it might sound better with some volume control :lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 05:27:30 AM: Jugulator would never make anyone else's number 1, and won't make your list, I can confirm that. As you can see from my top 10, Painkiller is the heavy favourite, and I should really put Painkiller at number 1, but just the way I discovered Jugulator and grew with it, I just can't look past it. It opened me up to a heavier style of metal too. Pure nostalgia for it's rating, but a great slab of brutal immature metal.

Live Meltdown is indeed an incredible live album, as is Live in London. The Demolition tour was my first ever concert, and the only form of Priest I've seen live, which also makes me love that era even more. Ripper was destroying eardrums that night. Never had to block my ears with any other singer cause I thought my eardrums were gonna pop, seriously.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 05:30:07 AM: Yeah.........we have discussed this before but it was glass shattering stuff. I tend not to wear ear plugs when I should and that night was one time I should've. I often leave gigs with muffled hearing that subsides over the next day or so , but that's the only time I have left a gig with my ears seriously hurting.

Setlist:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/judas-priest/2001/the-palace-complex-melbourne-australia-6bd4e6e2.html

I think Aussie band Heaven supported too ...........good times.
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Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 05:33:27 AM: Took a few days to get back to normal for me.

8.5/10 for the new WASP from blabbermouth;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/cdreviews/golgotha-2/

I'm interested in your top 10 Priest song rankings too Brent. Jason's list is pure classic.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 26, 2015, 06:42:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 05:22:42 AM
Wow,.....I have Jugulator and never really played it. I will make sure I do before I get my rankings out there. No need to post in the album thread for the next week.........all day Priest for the next day or two and then all jingle.roulette.list from there.

I should also check out Live Meltdown. Ripper destroyed my ears when I saw them so it might sound better with some volume control :lol

The two could be one and the same. Only JP I have is British Steel. Somehow they (like many 70s metal acts) fell just outside my radar. Halford's voice just had this certain 'je ne sais quoi'. Sometimes great; sometimes I couldn't stand it.
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Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 06:44:44 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 05:30:07 AM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/judas-priest/2001/the-palace-complex-melbourne-australia-6bd4e6e2.html

I think Aussie band Heaven supported too ...........good times.

That's pretty much the same set I got. If Heaven were more of a hard rock style band, they were the support for me too. From what I remember they were very good.
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Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 06:45:45 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 26, 2015, 06:42:37 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 05:22:42 AM
Wow,.....I have Jugulator and never really played it. I will make sure I do before I get my rankings out there. No need to post in the album thread for the next week.........all day Priest for the next day or two and then all jingle.roulette.list from there.

I should also check out Live Meltdown. Ripper destroyed my ears when I saw them so it might sound better with some volume control :lol

The two could be one and the same. Only JP I have is British Steel. Somehow they (like many 70s metal acts) fell just outside my radar. Halford's voice just had this certain 'je ne sais quoi'. Sometimes great; sometimes I couldn't stand it.

I know you've tried Chad, just one of those things I guess. You really are missing out on one of the greatest bands of all time. Try Painkiller again man.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 26, 2015, 06:49:33 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 06:45:45 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on August 26, 2015, 06:42:37 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 05:22:42 AM
Wow,.....I have Jugulator and never really played it. I will make sure I do before I get my rankings out there. No need to post in the album thread for the next week.........all day Priest for the next day or two and then all jingle.roulette.list from there.

I should also check out Live Meltdown. Ripper destroyed my ears when I saw them so it might sound better with some volume control :lol

The two could be one and the same. Only JP I have is British Steel. Somehow they (like many 70s metal acts) fell just outside my radar. Halford's voice just had this certain 'je ne sais quoi'. Sometimes great; sometimes I couldn't stand it.

I know you've tried Chad, just one of those things I guess. You really are missing out on one of the greatest bands of all time. Try Painkiller again man.

Make me!
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Post by: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 06:50:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 06:44:44 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 05:30:07 AM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/judas-priest/2001/the-palace-complex-melbourne-australia-6bd4e6e2.html

I think Aussie band Heaven supported too ...........good times.

That's pretty much the same set I got. If Heaven were more of a hard rock style band, they were the support for me too. From what I remember they were very good.

Sounds like them - sorta AC/DC style , especially live , but with a bit more melody and variety.. The got an HM in my Top50 for one of their albums. The song Burn was always a fave of mine ........had to upload it to YT myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP_14PDcgBg&list=UU7rItKxXI2F7r-oSFWcFDGQ

I spent more time listening to Heaven than AC/DC to be honest.
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Post by: TAC on August 26, 2015, 07:19:55 AM: I have said this before, but I was in on Heaven back in the day! :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 26, 2015, 03:34:56 PM: Cathedral Spires might be one of their most underrated tunes ever.

Besides Wolf, I've never seen anyone else rank Jugulator number 1. Great album.
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Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 03:53:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 06:50:52 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 06:44:44 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 26, 2015, 05:30:07 AM
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/judas-priest/2001/the-palace-complex-melbourne-australia-6bd4e6e2.html

I think Aussie band Heaven supported too ...........good times.

That's pretty much the same set I got. If Heaven were more of a hard rock style band, they were the support for me too. From what I remember they were very good.

Sounds like them - sorta AC/DC style , especially live , but with a bit more melody and variety.. The got an HM in my Top50 for one of their albums. The song Burn was always a fave of mine ........had to upload it to YT myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP_14PDcgBg&list=UU7rItKxXI2F7r-oSFWcFDGQ

I spent more time listening to Heaven than AC/DC to be honest.

That's the style, probably them, solid song.

Quote from: jjrock88 on August 26, 2015, 03:34:56 PM
Cathedral Spires might be one of their most underrated tunes ever.

Besides Wolf, I've never seen anyone else rank Jugulator number 1. Great album.

I think one day I really have to look at my rankings and review them and maybe admit to myself that the nostalgia factor has too much of an influecne on the rankings. Because if I could only ever listen to either Jugulator or Painkiller for the rest of my life, I'd go Painkiller.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 03:58:12 PM: I'm not much of a Ripper fan - I'm not doubting his voice he's just been unlucky to sing on subpar albums by the bands he's fronted.saying that, I'm listening to Live In London and it's an excellent live album. I was about to buy the dad but half the gig is missing.
He does a good job on the songs but he's no rob halford.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 26, 2015, 04:00:09 PM: I'm sure there are tons of Priest fans who listened to Jugulator once and never gave it a chance again. Completely different from anything else they ever did
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Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 04:03:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
I was about to buy the dad but half the gig is missing.

Hey?
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Post by: TAC on August 26, 2015, 04:04:26 PM: Apparently the mom was out of stock!
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 26, 2015, 04:21:28 PM: Million Dollar Man, Lowdz Dibiase
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Post by: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 04:22:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 04:03:08 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
I was about to buy the dad but half the gig is missing.

Hey?

Stupid Apple predictive text. DVD!
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Post by: TAC on August 26, 2015, 04:28:36 PM: We call that pulling a kingshmegland around here!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 04:38:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 26, 2015, 04:28:36 PM
We call that pulling a kingshmegland around here!

I don't think I want to be pulling a kingshmegland... :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 04:57:28 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 04:03:08 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
I was about to buy the dad but half the gig is missing.

Hey?

Stupid Apple predictive text. DVD!

Should have gotten that. What do you mean half the gig is missing? I have the DVD and is has the full show plus bonus songs not played at the concert performed in soundcheck.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 05:08:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 04:57:28 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 04:03:08 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
I was about to buy the dad but half the gig is missing.

Hey?

Stupid Apple predictive text. DVD!

Should have gotten that. What do you mean half the gig is missing? I have the DVD and is has the full show plus bonus songs not played at the concert performed in soundcheck.
Just been listening to the album on Apple music and it's got 26 tracks. The back cover on Amazon for the DVD lists 19. It didn't look that many at first glance. And BTRoD isn't one of them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 05:12:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 05:08:08 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 04:57:28 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 04:03:08 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
I was about to buy the dad but half the gig is missing.

Hey?

Stupid Apple predictive text. DVD!

Should have gotten that. What do you mean half the gig is missing? I have the DVD and is has the full show plus bonus songs not played at the concert performed in soundcheck.
Just been listening to the album on Apple music and it's got 26 tracks. The back cover on Amazon for the DVD lists 19. It didn't look that many at first glance. And BTRoD isn't one of them.

Fuck you're right, I remember now, I was bummed that BTROD wasn't on it. Don't know what's going on with my memory at the moment. :lol I think there's actually 5 or 6 songs that are left off the DVD. It's still well worth it though man.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 26, 2015, 05:32:45 PM: Yes the cd had all the tracks but the DVD didn't. Strange
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Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 07:05:45 PM: The only thing I can come up with is that they must have had a few technical errors or something while recording as the songs missing are scattered throughout the concert.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 26, 2015, 07:11:46 PM: Thats a good guess. But I rarely watch music dvds, but always listen to live albums, so it didn't make much of a difference to me.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 27, 2015, 02:48:09 AM: Just got through my first listen to Demolition - decent album I suppose with a few standout tracks . Ripper doesn't sound anywhere near as powerful on the studio album as he did live.

It's possibly one of those albums that is better if you come into it with open ears rather than thinking "How does it rate as a Priest album?" I'd give it around 75% which is probably better than most from what I gather :lol

I've never bothered with the Ripper stuff or the 70's stuff (I rarely respond well to the 70's :lol) , but I will try and give all the albums at least one listen over the next day or two.

Onto Jugulator.....
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Post by: Lowdz on August 27, 2015, 04:24:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 27, 2015, 02:48:09 AM
Just got through my first listen to Demolition - decent album I suppose with a few standout tracks . Ripper doesn't sound anywhere near as powerful on the studio album as he did live.

It's possibly one of those albums that is better if you come into it with open ears rather than thinking "How does it rate as a Priest album?" I'd give it around 75% which is probably better than most from what I gather :lol

I've never bothered with the Ripper stuff or the 70's stuff (I rarely respond well to the 70's :lol) , but I will try and give all the albums at least one listen over the next day or two.

Onto Jugulator.....

I bought Demolition back when it was released but I don't remember much about it. The live in London versions I listened to yesterday seemed fine. I'll have to give it another go. Was going to listen to Jugulator last night but it wasn't on Apple Music. I'm sure i tried it a while ago at Kade's urging but it didn't do much for me.

I did like Angel Of Retribution of the reunion albums, but the rest have been poor. I liked the latest one initially but repeated listens weren't as positive.
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Post by: Cyclopssss on August 27, 2015, 04:34:43 AM: Unleashed in the East is a great live album. Great versions of Victim of changes, the Ripper, Green Manalishi, Exciter and Diamonds and Rust.
As to how much of it is live, though.... ::)
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 27, 2015, 05:58:19 AM: Quote from: Cyclopssss on August 27, 2015, 04:34:43 AM
Unleashed in the East is a great live album. Great versions of Victim of changes, the Ripper, Green Manalishi, Exciter and Diamonds and Rust.
As to how much of it is live, though.... ::)

Fantastic live album. One of the best ever

Doesn't matter to me at all if there is some studio magic
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Post by: bl5150 on August 27, 2015, 06:04:10 AM: I never saw the point in trying Unleashed as I hadn't been too interested in the studio albums to that point. Hopefully this upcoming Priestathon will change my mind.
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Post by: TAC on August 27, 2015, 06:53:11 AM: Unleashed is awesome, and kind of like I pointed out in my roulette. The versions of these songs are so much better than their studio counterparts.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 27, 2015, 11:06:24 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 27, 2015, 06:53:11 AM
Unleashed is awesome, and kind of like I pointed out in my roulette. The versions of these songs are so much better than their studio counterparts.

I said exactly the same thing in my top 50. Brought some fire to the songs that the dull studio recordings lacked. If that's because of re recording in the studio so be it. My only gripe is its too short. And there's no beyond the realms of death. Why they keep leaving that off their live albums is beyond me. At least live in London had it. The halford live album had it too.
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2015, 07:14:37 PM: I got Ram it Down cranking in the car, love it. Man, Tipton is an absolute beast on this, such as tasteful guitarist.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 27, 2015, 07:26:41 PM: That's the most underrated Priest album IMO
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2015, 07:39:01 PM: I love it, it's a perfect mix of the 80's glam and classic Priest, wonderful.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 27, 2015, 07:44:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 27, 2015, 07:39:01 PM
I love it, it's a perfect mix of the 80's glam and classic Priest, wonderful.

Good way to describe it!
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2015, 07:45:40 PM: Not much glam, just a taste of what was going on at the time.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 28, 2015, 09:10:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 27, 2015, 07:39:01 PM
I love it, it's a perfect mix of the 80's glam and classic Priest, wonderful.

Yeah that sums it up. I love Blood Red Skies. I overlooked it at the time, favouring Turbo. I was wrong there, its a quality album. Could do without the drum machine though.
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Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2015, 03:54:51 PM: Could use Scott Travis though. :lol

Yeah, I don't mind the drum machine, it still sounds pretty strong, as does the whole album. Love Monsters of Rock roo, great Sabbath vibe on this one IMO. And even the dodgy songs like Come and Get It, Love Zone etc. are pretty good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 28, 2015, 07:03:09 PM: Dont forget Hard as Iron!! Great tune!
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Post by: bl5150 on August 29, 2015, 09:20:34 PM: I am not going to get time to listen to the live albums , but aside from Rocka Rolla I will have listened to the whole Priest studio discog by tomorrow. So if anyone else wants to get up some Priest rankings before I add mine and collate them , then now is the time. Like WASP, Priest are an important band for me and so I have taken this opportunity to catch up on the few albums I had never bothered with and rate pretty much everything.

NP Painkiller :metal :metal :hefdaddy

Of the albums I was familiar with but haven't listened to in a while (most of them) my thoughts/ratings haven't changed a great deal , aside from maybe Point of Entry which I had rated very low in the past and it's really not too bad at all. Why I have a Ram It Down era bonus track on it I have no idea though ??? - good one too (Thunder Road)

For the next band I think we'll go a bit more in the hard rock direction after concentrating on metal so far.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 05:31:55 AM: Point Of Entry is horrible, save for a couple of tracks. Heading Out To The Highway is still one of my favorite Priest tunes.

And you selling yourself short by not hitting Unleashed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 05:38:55 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 05:31:55 AM

And you selling yourself short by not hitting Unleashed.

I do have it and will get to it , but for now all the studio albums in a few days will do me. And I need to start listening to my jingle.list for the roulette so as I fit in and don't get fucked off :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 05:43:27 AM: ..and I need a list of banned bands for yours..soon!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 06:14:46 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 05:43:27 AM
..and I need a list of banned bands for yours..soon!

I can't see a banned list being feasible for me to be honest.........I have 5000+ albums by >2000 artists (many of which I haven't got to , but that's beside the point :lol) and I am after music from albums I don't have. Do we really want a 2000 long banned list of bands? And I am prepared to accept songs /albums I don't have from bands I like.........let's say Rock Rolla by Priest for example.

What I think I will suggest is what Chad has already done - he's been planning well ahead. I will take some time in the week after my first post to allow people (if they want to) to send me a list of say 10-20 albums/bands that they might like to use. I will take the time to look through my stuff and respond with what is banned and what isn't. At least that will allow a base for people to work from and avoid constant back/forward submissions and rejections through the roulette. It's not compulsory at all , but I think it will be useful and anyone can start that process now if they know that they want to participate.

I had better start clearing out my PMs - I struggle with my 25 message limit as it is.
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:02:12 AM: This sounds like a lot of work. I honestly doubt I have any bands that you do not.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:03:12 AM: Rush :lol

I think you would be surprised how much you have that I don't.
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:05:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:03:12 AM
Rush :lol

I think you would be surprised how much you have that I don't.

Maybe YOU should PM ME a list of 20 bands I could use! :rollin

Perhaps you could use your own Rush Intervention!
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Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:10:16 AM: OK.............all the DTF faves. Rush, Ayreon, Pain of Salvation, Riverside, Coheed and Cambria, Opeth, Spock's Beard, Enchant , Neal Morse , Steven Wilson..

How's that? ;D That's one for every round ;)
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:12:25 AM: That's not good. The only thing I have is Rush!!!!

Seriously , look at my iPod list and PM me what I could send. I do have other stuff kicking around too.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:16:00 AM: Are you watching Chad?.........this is why I was reluctant to do my own roulette. The particpants are asking me to suggest songs for them to send before I even start :rollin

All I can suggest Tim is that I check out your Top 50 & Roulette List and I'll let you know what I don't have. Aside from their biggest songs I will also allow Led Zeppelin.
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:18:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:16:00 AM
Are you watching Chad?.........this is why I was reluctant to do my own roulette.
It's your own damn fault!

Quote from: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:16:00 AM
All I can suggest Tim is that I check out your Top 50 and I'll let you know what I don't have. Aside from their biggest songs I will also allow Led Zeppelin.

That would be great. Thank you.

An I know what I'm sending for the Zeppelin Round!
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Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:21:48 AM: Well I don't have any Blondie Tim - there's your first one ;D
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:23:30 AM: Don't laugh! Tons of great stuff!
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Post by: King Postwhore on August 30, 2015, 07:29:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:23:30 AM
Don't laugh! Tons of great stuff!

And you mock us. :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:32:25 AM: Yes. Yes I do. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:43:08 AM: OK Tim.........as I thought, I have heaps of stuff just from your iPod list - some bands and plenty of albums I don't have by various artists. Let me tidy things up a bit and add some detail and I'll get it back to you soonish and then at least you have something to work with.
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Post by: King Postwhore on August 30, 2015, 08:25:35 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:32:25 AM
Yes. Yes I do. :lol

:lol

On my I-Pod, I use initials to hide the skeleton in my closet bands. Lol
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Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 09:05:42 AM: Just upgraded Stained Class quite a bit too - following it with Redeemer of Souls and unfortunately the shit production took about 10 secs to piss me off. Shame - as I like the album.
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 09:08:40 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on August 30, 2015, 08:25:35 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:32:25 AM
Yes. Yes I do. :lol

:lol

On my I-Pod, I use initials to hide the skeleton in my closet bands. Lol

That's an old trick. Like on J Boy's iPod, under Dream Theater, it lists Black Clouds and Animotion. ;D
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Post by: King Postwhore on August 30, 2015, 09:16:19 AM: :lol

Mine has BCR.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 09:24:51 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on August 30, 2015, 08:25:35 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:32:25 AM
Yes. Yes I do. :lol

:lol

On my I-Pod, I use initials to hide the skeleton in my closet bands. Lol

That's an old trick. Like on J Boy's iPod, under Dream Theater, it lists Black Clouds and Animotion. ;D

When Duran and Duran Unite :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 09:29:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 09:24:51 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on August 30, 2015, 08:25:35 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 07:32:25 AM
Yes. Yes I do. :lol

:lol

On my I-Pod, I use initials to hide the skeleton in my closet bands. Lol

That's an old trick. Like on J Boy's iPod, under Dream Theater, it lists Black Clouds and Animotion. ;D

When Duran and Duran Unite :lol
:rollin

Exactly!

Quote from: kingshmegland on August 30, 2015, 09:16:19 AM
:lol

Mine has BCR.

Black Chick Records
Is this where you hide your Beyoncé collection?
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 30, 2015, 12:26:59 PM: Its mind boggling that Brent will try to do a roulette.

How is that possible??
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Post by: King Postwhore on August 30, 2015, 12:30:59 PM: Nope. Keep guessing Tim. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on August 30, 2015, 01:00:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 05:31:55 AM
Point Of Entry is horrible, save for a couple of tracks. Heading Out To The Highway is still one of my favorite Priest tunes.

And you selling yourself short by not hitting Unleashed.

I don't mind PoE. Some good stuff on there, it's not a write off.
Desert Plains is a great song. Don't Go and Hot Rockin are fine for what they are. Yeah, not a bad album at all. Most priest albums have a clunker or too, even Screaming has a couple.
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 01:02:32 PM: Desert Plains is fantastic!
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Post by: Evermind on August 30, 2015, 01:35:36 PM: Alright, time to post my top ten Priest songs.

1. Dreamer Deceiver
2. Beyond the Realms of Death
3. Victim of Changes
4. Alone
5. The Hellion / Electric Eye
6. Blood Red Skies
7. A Touch of Evil
8. Nostradamus
9. Painkiller
10. Night Crawler

Between the Hammer and the Anvil, Revelations, Persecution, Judas Rising, Desert Plains and probably more songs I don't remember right now are all the worthy contenders for this list. I'm kinda biased towards Nostradamus album though.
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Post by: KevShmev on August 30, 2015, 01:38:54 PM: Some of those would be in my Priest top 10. I'll go with:

Beyond the Realms of Death
Dreamer Deceiver/Deceiver
Sinner
Victim of Changes
Desert Plains
Bloodstone
A Touch of Evil
Ram It Down
The Rage
Exciter
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 02:07:37 PM: I'd go with:

1. Hellion/Electric Eye
2. Heading Out To The Highway
3. The Sentinal
4. Victim Of Changes
5. Desert Plains
6. Screaming For Vengeance
7. The Ripper
8. Don't Have To Be Old To Be Wise
9. Painkiller
10. Beyond The Realms Of Death
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 30, 2015, 02:52:54 PM: TAC's list is pretty awesome.

Let's see.

The Hellion / Electric Eye
Beyond the Realms of Death
The sentinel
Blood red skies
The ripper
Delivering the goods
Jawbreaker
Desert plains
Heading out to the highway
Out in the cold

10 just isn't enough...
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Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 04:55:44 PM: Looking at all these top 10's makes you realise how fucking brilliant this band really is. Every top 10 here is strong, no issues with any of these from me.
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 05:05:59 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 04:55:44 PM
Looking at all these top 10's makes you realise how fucking brilliant this band really is. Every top 10 here is strong, no issues with any of these from me.

So where's yours?
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Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 05:12:20 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 30, 2015, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 04:55:44 PM
Looking at all these top 10's makes you realise how fucking brilliant this band really is. Every top 10 here is strong, no issues with any of these from me.

So where's yours?

Probably a few pages back. I'll find it and repost it.
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Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 05:13:11 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2015, 05:13:03 AM
1. Jugulator
2. Painkiller
3. Defenders of the Faith
4. Sin After Sin
5. Ram it Down

Yes, weird rankings I know. Jugulator has a strong nostalgia factor that most of you already know, but really Painkiller I would have no issue being number 1 either, it's a perfect metal album. Sin After Sin I think it terribly underrated and full of brilliant songs, and Ram It Down, I just love the variety and the bit of cheese. Turbo could go in here too, love that one too.

Top 10 songs........you could make multiple top 10 lists and they would all be valid. I'll have a crack though;

1. Painkiller
2. Beyond the Realms of Death
3. Touch of Evil
4. One Shot At Glory
5. Cathedral Spires
6. Rock Hard Ride Free
7. Here Come the Tears
8. Between the Hammer and the Anvil
9. I'm A Rocker
10. Desert Plains
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2015, 05:24:14 PM: Awesome!! :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 30, 2015, 06:54:30 PM: Lots of diverse lists and all are great.

I don't think I've seen the four big radio hits on any of the lists though
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Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:12:21 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 30, 2015, 06:54:30 PM

I don't think I've seen the four big radio hits on any of the lists though

What were they jj - never heard Priest on mainstream radio in my life. And thanks for all your lists guys - I will have plenty to work with here.
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Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 07:13:58 PM: I'm guessing he means;

Breaking the Law
You Got Another Thing Coming
Living After Midnight

And maybe United, or Turbo Lover?
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 30, 2015, 07:18:51 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 07:13:58 PM
I'm guessing he means;

Breaking the Law
You Got Another Thing Coming
Living After Midnight

And maybe United, or Turbo Lover?

Turbo Lover with the three you mentioned. Actually I don't really hear Turbo very often but I hear the big three non stop on the radio daily.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:39:39 PM: Forgetting the fact that my #1 album is 70's ( Van Halen 1) , me and the 70's are usually like oil and water........a bit like the 90's actually. Hmmm. :rollin

Anyway- I am surprised how much I am enjoying Sin After Sin :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 07:55:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 30, 2015, 07:39:39 PM
Anyway- I am surprised how much I am enjoying Sin After Sin :metal

Top 5 for me, really really underrated.

Quote from: jjrock88 on August 30, 2015, 07:18:51 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 07:13:58 PM
I'm guessing he means;

Breaking the Law
You Got Another Thing Coming
Living After Midnight

And maybe United, or Turbo Lover?

Turbo Lover with the three you mentioned. Actually I don't really hear Turbo very often but I hear the big three non stop on the radio daily.

Thought most likely Turbo Lover.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 30, 2015, 09:14:16 PM: Sin after Sin is awesome

Come to think of it, Dissident Aggressor should be in my top ten. Try and tell me a cooler song than that bad boy!!
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Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 10:43:07 PM: Yeah, I missed that one too. Not sure it would crack my top 10, but top 20 definitely. IMO taht song is way ahead of its time.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 31, 2015, 01:37:32 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 30, 2015, 02:52:54 PM

10 just isn't enough...

Spot on.........working on cutting down my top 20 into 10.

For the moment though here are my album rankings - all except the debut. Judas Priest have been pretty damn consistent over time with the odd misstep but I think I can say that there are very,very few bands other than Judas Priest that would have 9 albums that I rate greater than 80% . And nothing < 70% Some of my all time faves like DT and Queensryche can't match that - not even close.

1. Painkiller
2. Defenders of the Faith
3. Turbo

4. Sin After Sin
4. Redeemer of Souls (TIE)
6. Screaming For Vengeance
7. Ram It Down
7 Stained Class (TIE)
9 British Steel

10 Killing Machine
11 Point of Entry

12 Nostradamus
13 Demolition
14 Angel of Retribution
15 Sad Wings of Destiny
16 Jugulator

I can't see too much controvery in amongst that , except perhaps Redeemer being so high.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 31, 2015, 02:02:41 AM: Well DTF's favourite Priest albums are very clear cut.

It was Defenders of the Faith #1 , Painkiller trailing by a bee's dick at #2 and the length of the straight to anything else.

Marginal difference between the rest , but of those that got more than one mention in a Top 5 (Jugulator and SWOD each got one big mention which skewed things a bit in a small sample) , we have:

#3 Turbo
#4 British Steel/SFV

My Top 3 made Top 3 so I'm happy about that :metal

We have a better sample of Top 10 songs than albums (first time ever), so this should be interesting.......will get my list in tonight and collate. Top 5 is easy - the next 5 not so much.
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 05:45:03 AM: Interesting seeing Turbo so high, but seeing we are melodic metal and 80's buffs, I guess it's not that surprising.

IMO, Redeemer is by far their weakest album, just didn't really get into it. There are some good songs, but some real plodders that slow it down IMO. I miss KK too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 31, 2015, 06:49:58 AM: Cool to see ROS ranked high.

I liked it 20x better than Nostradamus
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Post by: Evermind on August 31, 2015, 06:58:33 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 31, 2015, 06:49:58 AM
Cool to see ROS ranked high.

I liked it 20x better than Nostradamus

Reverse it and maybe add another 0 here and you've got my opinion.
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2015, 07:02:23 AM: Turbo is not Top 3 material.

Perhaps in Australia! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on August 31, 2015, 07:10:29 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2015, 07:02:23 AM
Turbo is not Top 3 material.

Perhaps in Australia! ;D

Well it was top 3 on DTF too thanks to Mr Lowdz :tup

OK........that was a real exercise to get my Top 10 songs. This has been a worthwhile exercise for me because I have never bothered much with the 70's albums and in the end three 70's songs almost made my Top 10 , but I really couldn't put them above songs I have liked for decades. Listening to Priest and similar bands around 1978 just reinforces how fucking heavy that debut VH sounds too.

Anyway - here it is.

In rough order:

The Sentinel
One Shot At Glory
Rock Hard Ride free
A Touch Of Evil
Nightcrawler
Freewheel Burning
Night Comes Down
Reckless
Painkiller
Desert Plains

Of those , nobody else showed love for Freewheel Burning, Reckless (soft spot for that as one of my earliest Priest listens),Night Comes Down.

Just missed - Beyond The Realms Of Death, White Heat Red Hot, Living After Midnight, RUnning Wild, Blood Red Skies

And the DTF best list is as follows (ranked by mentions in Top 10):

1. Desert Plains/Beyond The Realms of Death (TIE)
2. A Touch of Evil
3. Electric Eye/ The Sentinel/Painkiller (TIE)
4. Blood Red Skies/Victim of Changes (TIE)

After that we're down to two mentions each for Jawbreaker,Bloodstone,I'm A Rocker,One Shot At Glory,Rock Hard Ride Free,Dreamer Deceiver,Nightcrawler,The Ripper and Heading Out To The Highway
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Post by: Zydar on August 31, 2015, 07:11:41 AM: That reminds me, when I ran the Judas Priest Survivor a few years ago the winner was Painkiller :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 07:14:53 AM: Interesting to see so much love for Desert Plains, kick ass song.

That's a fabulous top 10 Brent.
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Post by: Evermind on August 31, 2015, 07:17:54 AM: Pity Dreamer Deceiver didn't do so well, but I'm glad to see Beyond the Realms of Death tied for the first place.
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 07:24:16 AM: Dreamer Deceiver just missed out for me, top 15.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 31, 2015, 09:44:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 07:14:53 AM
Interesting to see so much love for Desert Plains, kick ass song.

That's a fabulous top 10 Brent.

Both Desert Plains and Dreamer Deceiver are awesome.

Either DD, or Night Comes Down, would be my favorite power ballad from the band.
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 04:17:31 PM: Night Comes Down is very underrated.
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2015, 06:16:40 PM: All I can say is every song available so far from the new Slayer album is :metal :metal :metal

Here's another one:
https://bravewords.com/news/slayer-cast-the-first-stone-track-streaming-free-download-available
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 06:26:52 PM: Didn't know you were a Slayer fan Tim. Not really digging what I've heard and lost touch with this band a while ago, but I will definitely check the new album.
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2015, 06:31:58 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 06:26:52 PM
Didn't know you were a Slayer fan Tim. Not really digging what I've heard and lost touch with this band a while ago, but I will definitely check the new album.

I loved Slayer back in the day. Last album I bought and tour I saw was Divine Intervention. I have downloaded copies of their last two but did not really like them. I think they just tried to be a little too brutal than they really, in fact, are.

Everything I've heard from this new one is totally reminiscent of their classic era. I am totally getting this!

I absolutely LOVE Seasons In The Abyss and South Of Heaven. Show No Mercy too! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 06:37:44 PM: All the old stuff is just incredible. I thought God Hates Us All was great, but after that not so much.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 01, 2015, 01:17:43 AM: Seasons and South Of Heaven are the best from the old Slayer. God hates us all was good too, after that I lost interest. Maybe I should check out the new one.
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 05:10:38 AM: I don't think I'll like it that much as it isn't my style anymore but eager to listen to it.
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 06:45:43 PM: Sweet Jesus, while on holidays I'm looking through all my cd's and digging out ones I've never really listened to and all the Schenker and UFO talk, I might have said, that I don't really know much of Schenker's solo work. Looking through, I stumble across A best of called Forever and More and something called Tales of Rock n Roll. (Not sure if this is a collection or what yet) :facepalm: Man, I had a big big problem.
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Post by: TAC on September 01, 2015, 06:51:47 PM: You need to get MSG, his second album.
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 06:55:25 PM: I'll use this best of to get a general feel of his stuff. Looks like a lot of UFO tracks on here though, lots of live stuff too.
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Post by: TAC on September 01, 2015, 07:09:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 06:55:25 PM
I'll use this best of to get a general feel of his stuff. Looks like a lot of UFO tracks on here though, lots of live stuff too.

F&M has three songs from MSG.
Are You Ready To Rock (which is barely OK)
Attack Of The Mad Axeman (which has a great solo at the end)
On And On (which just might be one of the most influential songs of my musical life. Should be right up your alley!)

Band includes Cozy Powell and Paul Raymond on this album.
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 07:14:39 PM: Right, so MSG and Schenker solo are two different entities? :lol I never knew that. The amount of work he has done is quite incredible.
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Post by: TAC on September 01, 2015, 07:21:45 PM: Well, when he left UFO he formed the Michael Schenker Group.
His first album is a s/t and second is titled MSG.
He sacked Gary Barden for Graham Bonnet for his third album Assault Attack. (produced by Martin Birch..sounds incredible)
He brought back Barden for Built To Destroy (which I think you would love.)

After a few years off, he resurfaced in 1987 with Robin McCauley and formed the McCauley Schenker Group (MSG ;D)
They released 3 albums. The mid 90's through the 00's saw him release a number of Michael Schenker Group albums, with numerous vocalists. These are all kind of spotty. Some good stuff though.

In 2000, he released Adventures Of The Imagination, which is an excellent instrumental album. Open Gate from F&M is from this. He has a number of instrumental albums, and a bunch of cool acoustic ones titled Thank You. I believe there are 4 of these.

His last three albums have been under the Michael Schenker's Temple Of Rock monicker. The first one sucks, but the last two, 2013's Bridge The Gap, and this year's Spirit On A Mission are two of the best albums he's done since his classic early 80's material.
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 07:29:39 PM: Wow, that's not confusing haha. I like Graham Bonnet, will have to check out Assault Attack. Didn't know he had so much instrumental work, strange I haven't really checked him out before.
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Post by: TAC on September 01, 2015, 07:31:47 PM: If you like Graham Bonnet, then you will LOVE Assault Attack. Seriously, just blind buy it. It's a great album and with Birch producing, it sounds amazing. I'd take both MSG and Built To Destroy over it, but productionwise, it's no contest.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 01, 2015, 07:41:34 PM: Check out "Desert Song" from MSG..........awesome
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 08:10:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 01, 2015, 07:31:47 PM
If you like Graham Bonnet, then you will LOVE Assault Attack. Seriously, just blind buy it. It's a great album and with Birch producing, it sounds amazing. I'd take both MSG and Built To Destroy over it, but productionwise, it's no contest.

Alright, if I see in store this weekend, I'll get it.
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 10:02:11 PM: Just discovered what seems to be an MSG cover album called Heavy Hitters. Tim Owens, cool.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2015, 11:57:03 PM: Yikes - another one from Tate's newie. Unfortunately, as we expected, the one good song is going to be lonely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbjEBGBaI9M
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2015, 12:20:46 AM: Why do you all insist on giving him any of your precious time!?!?
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Post by: bl5150 on September 02, 2015, 12:33:27 AM: I suppose the same reason we keep checking out a track or two off the Tolkki Turds ..........or any other trainwreck.

(https://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l77/afkimel/Misc/3p38ni_zpsfefc0583.jpg)

Back to jingle.roulette listening . And maybe the new Iron Maiden to see if it's as orgasmic as everyone says.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 02, 2015, 01:12:03 AM: To be able to appreciate real greatness you sometimes have to go down low ;D That's why we listen to Tate & Co.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2015, 03:49:07 AM: The first single from Tate was very good

The second single was meh

This third one is terrible
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 05:15:50 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 02, 2015, 12:33:27 AM
Back to jingle.roulette listening . And maybe the new Iron Maiden to see if it's as orgasmic as everyone says.

I'd value your opinions on the Iron Maiden Brent.
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 05:28:57 AM: Ah, I thought from that first WASP song we might have gotten something a bit different from Blackie but guess not.

New song, Crazy......I mean Scream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S03jsNAiXY

Same old, but on a plus the whole thing sounds really tight and strong, and Blackie sounds good too.
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 05:33:53 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 01, 2015, 11:57:03 PM
Yikes - another one from Tate's newie. Unfortunately, as we expected, the one good song is going to be lonely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbjEBGBaI9M

Good fucking lord! Not good at all, and those lyrics are atrocious.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 02, 2015, 05:48:32 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 05:28:57 AM
Ah, I thought from that first WASP song we might have gotten something a bit different from Blackie but guess not.

New song, Crazy......I mean Scream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S03jsNAiXY

Same old, but on a plus the whole thing sounds really tight and strong, and Blackie sounds good too.

Yeah - I love the vocal sound/production.........sounds like classic Blackie , unlike a lot of the post Crimson albums. Probably the best he has sounded in ages. He is really pushing the limits of recycling material with the guitar rhythms though. This gives me hope for a few really good songs like the last couple of albums anyway.

Whether we get another classic from start to finish with lots of variety like The Headless Children,.....very doubtful.

Quote from: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 05:15:50 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 02, 2015, 12:33:27 AM
Back to jingle.roulette listening . And maybe the new Iron Maiden to see if it's as orgasmic as everyone says.

I'd value your opinions on the Iron Maiden Brent.

OK............will give it a listen tomorrow.

BTW I will probably have some interesting memorabilia to post in coming days/weeks. The reasons for it ain't particularly pleasant , but we're packing a lot of stuff up at the moment and I am finding a lot of things I had forgotten I had. Much of it is Van Halen related but also some other interesting stuff.

I posted this pic of the remnants of my cassette collection a while back , so will start there again. It really brings back a heap of memories. I wish I had all this stuff on vinyl , although tapes seem to be making a comeback at the moment too - NFI why as they are absolute crap.

(https://s29.postimg.org/tjckjvrif/tapes.jpg)

I also found the long lost photo of me shaking hands with EVH at a meet'n'greet :yeahbaby:
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 05:50:59 AM: Yeah Brent, I was maybe hoping for something along the lines of THC from the first track, but not counting on it. Still really looking forward to it though.

Looking forward to your posts too. So much win in those cassettes. Love the Noiseworks too.
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Post by: Bolsters on September 02, 2015, 05:58:59 AM: Isn't the cassette resurgence mostly about them being collectibles? I don't think people listen to them.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 02, 2015, 06:00:46 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on September 02, 2015, 05:58:59 AM
Isn't the cassette resurgence mostly about them being collectibles? I don't think people listen to them.

That's what I thought but there are a number of labels doing new releases on cassette again , bands are doing promos etc....
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 06:09:59 AM: Cassettes are the shit. Especailly cassingles, or whatever they were called.
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Post by: Bolsters on September 02, 2015, 06:14:21 AM: I don't miss having to rewind/fastforward those things all the fucking time.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 02, 2015, 06:18:07 AM: I have alot of those same cassettes. I used to buy cds for listening at home and if it was a great album I'd get the cassette for the walkman. Home taping didn't have the audiophile quality I demanded back then :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 06:29:33 AM: It was tough to get the play and record button down at the same time, right before the album starts. You were either too slow or too early and had a huge fucking gap before the first song.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 02, 2015, 06:45:55 AM: Or you played your favorite tape in the car and your player ate the tape >:(, no, not going back to that shit.
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2015, 06:49:57 AM: Or performing countless surgeries on them when the little sponge piece moved or disappeared altogether!
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2015, 07:48:57 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 02, 2015, 06:49:57 AM
Or performing countless surgeries on them when the little sponge piece moved or disappeared altogether!

I don't remember that problem. I rarely bought album cassettes, as they always used the worst quality cassette's. As I've mentioned before, I was a Maxell XLII guy, and I'd make my own from rip from vinyl/CD, borrow/trade/share from someone else's.

Saw things like this a while ago on FB:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0806/9029/t/5/assets/home-hero-product-image.png?4297615717019030636)

(https://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/200247-6-for-him-mix-tape-usb-flash-drive.jpg?width=630)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 02, 2015, 07:50:27 AM: A cassette tape flash drive? How hipster. Use a real cassette or GTFO.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 02, 2015, 09:57:18 AM: I lost interest in Halestorm after their first album but she does a pretty fine version of Heaven and Hell live.

https://youtu.be/JQjpOWLpnJE
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 03:50:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 02, 2015, 06:49:57 AM
Or performing countless surgeries on them when the little sponge piece moved or disappeared altogether!

Yeah, I had these issues too. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2015, 04:35:15 PM: Didn't buy too many cassettes, but made some mix tapes from cds.
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Post by: Cyclopssss on September 03, 2015, 03:06:30 AM: Ah, recording cassettes! Had a lot of fun with those. I became a Master of the Pauze button! Even recorded a live compilation of all intro's and guitarsolo's of Kiss Alive II which was almost seemless. The trick was also to wind the tape all the way to the end of the 'pre-tape' portion before pushing REC/Play. (or Pauze).

Also:

(https://theyearotienobc.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/age-test-cassette-tape-and-pencil.jpg)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 03, 2015, 03:37:21 AM: Oh yes, the pencil. I had a special pencil just for winding the tape, because not all pencils didn't fit equally good.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 03, 2015, 03:46:19 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 05:15:50 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 02, 2015, 12:33:27 AM
Back to jingle.roulette listening . And maybe the new Iron Maiden to see if it's as orgasmic as everyone says.

I'd value your opinions on the Iron Maiden Brent.

It seems that the majority of Maiden fans are really digging it Kade , so I am sure you'll like it but it's not doing too much for me. Empire of the Clouds is the longest and best attempt at the epic side of things - I don't find it glorious or anything but I also didn't find myself checking the clock which is a good effort for any song of that length. Good song.

The rest..........well it's just "there" for me. Nothing on it sucks and nothing on it really grabs me by the throat and pulls me in. And although I am not the world's biggest Maiden fan they are more than capable of impressing me. Somewhere In Time in particular gets big marks from me and I have 20 or so 5 star tracks on iTunes across my Maiden collection which is basically all the 80's stuff and the double CD From Fear To Eternity.

Most of the Maiden albums other than my top few tend to have 2 or 3 top rated tracks and a number of 3 stars which adds up to a rating around high 70's- low 80's. The Book of Souls gets a similar rating (high 70's) but it's all 4 stars and a couple of 3's. I would rather the former (a few brilliant tracks) rather than just "good" from beginning to end.

I will give it another listen but I don't feel any compulsion to do so.....not much zing at all for the most part and very little in the way of melodies or songwriting that sounded fresh. I must say that from 6-10 mins in the title track ....that was the only time I really felt :metal :metal but it took 6 mins to get there and I had almost zoned out by then. The lead single is also a pretty strong single I thought.

It's not an album I would bag mercilessly but I was definitely expecting much more based on the reviews . I hope it does a better job of meeting your expectations.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 03, 2015, 11:04:16 AM: THIS sounds interesting.
https://bravewords.com/news/zierler-featuring-beyond-twilight-fates-warning-scar-symmetry-members-to-release-debut-album-in-october
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 03, 2015, 01:37:36 PM: Black Sabbath's Final Tour
https://bravewords.com/news/black-sabbath-the-end-dates-announced-for-the-final-tour-video-announcement-streaming
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 03, 2015, 04:14:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 03, 2015, 11:04:16 AM
THIS sounds interesting.
https://bravewords.com/news/zierler-featuring-beyond-twilight-fates-warning-scar-symmetry-members-to-release-debut-album-in-october

Yes, it does. Hopefully I remember to make note of it when I get home.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2015, 04:23:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 03, 2015, 11:04:16 AM
THIS sounds interesting.
https://bravewords.com/news/zierler-featuring-beyond-twilight-fates-warning-scar-symmetry-members-to-release-debut-album-in-october

It sure fucking does.

And you pansy's that don't like melodeath, Per Nilsson is simply an incredible guitarist. First day buyer of this for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 03, 2015, 04:44:05 PM: (https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114474/3753557-oh+boy+here+we+go.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2015, 05:02:40 PM: (https://bamfstyle.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/tumblr_llg81ryti61qdasbeo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 04, 2015, 12:18:47 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 03, 2015, 01:37:36 PM
Black Sabbath's Final Tour
https://bravewords.com/news/black-sabbath-the-end-dates-announced-for-the-final-tour-video-announcement-streaming

So excited for this. The last time they came here to Oz a few years ago was when everyone decided to tour at the same time, and I couldn't afford them all. I'm glad I'll get the chance to see Sabbath.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 06:28:25 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 04, 2015, 12:18:47 AM
Quote from: TAC on September 03, 2015, 01:37:36 PM
Black Sabbath's Final Tour
https://bravewords.com/news/black-sabbath-the-end-dates-announced-for-the-final-tour-video-announcement-streaming

So excited for this. The last time they came here to Oz a few years ago was when everyone decided to tour at the same time, and I couldn't afford them all. I'm glad I'll get the chance to see Sabbath.

I missed them too. I'm there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 06:30:38 AM: Another Stryper song. The weakest so far, but solid groove.

https://youtu.be/HVXjDNDlgiU
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 04, 2015, 08:10:43 AM: Some memorabilia that fell out of a box around 'ere today..........

Van Halen Tour Books ( 1981, 1986,1988) .........awesome photos in the 1981 especially
Van Halen Looney Tunes radio promo red vinyl (still sealed) for Van Halen 1 (1977-1978)
Ozzy Osbourne Souvenir Single w/patch from Donninton 1986

(https://s2.postimg.org/495hus1eh/IMG_0018.jpg)
(https://s21.postimg.org/me3bt1e6f/IMG_0020.jpg)
(https://s7.postimg.org/vnpv23jt7/IMG_0022.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 04, 2015, 11:38:46 AM: They've spelled Donington wrong on that Ozzy patch. Only one n. I was at that festival Though it wasn't one of the best Monsters of Rock lineups.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 04, 2015, 05:32:10 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 06:30:38 AM
Another Stryper song. The weakest so far, but solid groove.

https://youtu.be/HVXjDNDlgiU

I like it!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 06, 2015, 09:00:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 04, 2015, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 06:30:38 AM
Another Stryper song. The weakest so far, but solid groove.

https://youtu.be/HVXjDNDlgiU

I like it!

Yeah, not bad, but I like the first two a lot more. Seems like it's gonna be a good album though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 08, 2015, 10:14:31 AM: New wASP track is really good. Last Runaway. Listened to it last night on Apple music.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 08, 2015, 10:44:12 AM: How is Apple Music compared to Spotify?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 08, 2015, 12:01:55 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 08, 2015, 10:44:12 AM
How is Apple Music compared to Spotify?

I'm still using both as the apple music is free. I think spot iffy has more of the obscure stuff. Delve too deep in Apple music and it doesn't do it. Don't think I'll subscribe when the trial is up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 08, 2015, 12:48:18 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 08, 2015, 12:01:55 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 08, 2015, 10:44:12 AM
How is Apple Music compared to Spotify?

I'm still using both as the apple music is free. I think spot iffy has more of the obscure stuff. Delve too deep in Apple music and it doesn't do it. Don't think I'll subscribe when the trial is up.

I was wondering if/when I should start my trial.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 08, 2015, 01:53:53 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 08, 2015, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 08, 2015, 12:01:55 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 08, 2015, 10:44:12 AM
How is Apple Music compared to Spotify?

I'm still using both as the apple music is free. I think spot iffy has more of the obscure stuff. Delve too deep in Apple music and it doesn't do it. Don't think I'll subscribe when the trial is up.

I was wondering if/when I should start my trial.

It's worth a free trial. There are chunks missing from discographies though, even of fairly well known bands.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2015, 03:54:34 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 08, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
New wASP track is really good. Last Runaway. Listened to it last night on Apple music.

Yeah, it is. Unfortunately the second track they released was the usual WASP formula reworked yet again. It sounded good though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2015, 08:20:41 PM: Did you guys see this?

https://bravewords.com/news/ritchie-blackmore-to-regroup-with-rainbow-deep-purple-members-for-shows-in-2016-which-will-be-all-rock

:metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2015, 08:27:45 PM: I didn't think he would ever do this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2015, 08:49:06 PM: JLT has been talking about this for ages and Blackmore has been quoted as saying JLT won't be involved :lol..........JLT does tend to be full of shit. Coverdale tried to get Blackmore involved in his Purple thing and it didn't work out. It'll be interesting to see who is involved from the old lineups - I'm guessing not too many.

And just 4 dates?

And he takes his current lineup much more seriously?

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2015%20II/blackmoresnightbandsept.jpg)

Okey dokey. ::)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2015, 08:55:16 PM: Even JLT would be laughing at the way these bozos look.

I'm thinking Coverdale and Hughes might be involved, they have been talking shit too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 08, 2015, 09:33:42 PM: Blackmore mentioned this a little while ago, but I don't think there was a set date yet. Even though I enjoy Blackmore's Night, I've wanted this for ages. Blackmore still has the chops, and it would be a shame to not see him rock out one last time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 08, 2015, 09:37:52 PM: Didn't think that reunion would happen
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 09, 2015, 07:16:55 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2015, 08:49:06 PM
JLT has been talking about this for ages and Blackmore has been quoted as saying JLT won't be involved :lol..........JLT does tend to be full of shit. Coverdale tried to get Blackmore involved in his Purple thing and it didn't work out. It'll be interesting to see who is involved from the old lineups - I'm guessing not too many.

And just 4 dates?

And he takes his current lineup much more seriously?

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2015%20II/blackmoresnightbandsept.jpg)

Okey dokey. ::)

Next time I win the Caption Contest, this is the pic I'm going to post!

I can't see any of the current Purple guys doing it. Glover? Airey? Paice? I guess never say never.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on September 09, 2015, 09:21:00 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 08, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
Blackmore mentioned this a little while ago, but I don't think there was a set date yet. Even though I enjoy Blackmore's Night, I've wanted this for ages. Blackmore still has the chops, and it would be a shame to not see him rock out one last time.

I totally agree with bolded part.

Even though nothing beats first BN album, Shadow of the Moon, I thought Secret Voyage was great and their latest, Dancer and the Moon, was enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 09, 2015, 09:25:13 AM: Quote from: Evermind on September 09, 2015, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 08, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
Blackmore mentioned this a little while ago, but I don't think there was a set date yet. Even though I enjoy Blackmore's Night, I've wanted this for ages. Blackmore still has the chops, and it would be a shame to not see him rock out one last time.

I totally agree with bolded part.

Even though nothing beats first BN album, Shadow of the Moon, I thought Secret Voyage was great and their latest, Dancer and the Moon, was enjoyable.

Secret Voyager is easily my favourite, although I enjoy a lot of the earlier stuff too. I only enjoy one or two songs since though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 09, 2015, 10:29:17 AM: I would think glover and pace would be reluctant without gillan, and I can't see him doing it with Ritchie even for a huge retirement pot.

Jlt would be the singer who could still hit the notes. DC and Gillan couldn't.
Candace will have the casting vote. She seems to wear the trousers (tights?) in that relationship.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 09, 2015, 10:32:12 AM: Coverdale has already spoken about reaching out to him to organize something similar recently, and it didn't happen. The current members of Deep Purple are probably all just doing their thing. Not sure on JLT.
I'm not expecting anyone major to return; I think it will be a bunch of nobodies who are happy to do whatever Blackmore says.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 09, 2015, 02:20:18 PM: Doogie white again?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 03:11:40 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 09, 2015, 02:20:18 PM
Doogie white again?

Exactly who I thought of too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 09, 2015, 03:22:15 PM: Well he's in Schenker's band at the moment.

These four shows basically amount to a one off and with the fact that they are so far off, I think anyone is fair game as far as participation. I doubt Doogie would be part of this very much. He really has nothing to do with Deep Purple, or even Rainbow for that matter. If he's there, he's only doing a song or two. I mean Ritchie could trot anyone out for this.

I am expecting Coverdale, Hughes, and JLT.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 06:56:58 PM: I have been given the heads up to get my roulette underway......we won't be in full swing for 7-10 days though. It took a lot of persistence from Chad to convince me to do one and I know there's probably as much if not more trepidation about finding stuff for mine as there is for Chad's.

I've tried to drop some hints in the upcoming OP but if you're worried about not having anything to submit .............don't be . It took me 15 mins to line up dozens of possibilities for Chad and Tim and also bear in mind that there are gaps in my collection for most bands , even the big ones.

For example:

- I don't have Rocka Rolla by Priest
- I don't have Master of the Moon by Dio
- most of the big power metal bands I just have a few albums. Even for my faves like Strato there's a big gap between Infinite and Polaris. I only have one or two Hammerfall albums, zero Dragonforce, a few Gamma Ray. I have only two Primal Fear albums.
- up until the recent thread feature here on WASP (another all time fave) I was missing most albums after The Crimson Idol.
- the only Maiden songs I have from the reunion era are on From Fear To Eternity (best of)
- Ozzy is an all time fave and I don't have anything post Ozzmosis other than Black Rain.
- I don't have any Tate era Queensryche after Promised Land aside from OM2 and Dedicated to Crap.
- I have very little Malmsteen post Facing The Animal
- I don't have Subhuman Race by Skid Row
- I don't have any of the Gary Moore blues albums other than the first one.
- there are a number of Deris era Helloween albums I don't have
- I don't have Endgame and a number of other recent Megadeth albums

I could go on and on and most of the bands mentioned above made my Top 50..............you guys have heaps of stuff I don't have. I have given a number of pretty good hints above I think and there's plenty more where that came from if you just ask. if you're desperate float some bands that you know I like and assume I have everything from .......I may not. Just float some ideas via email/PM and I will help. ;)

Obviously the main purpose of the exercise is to discover some new bands - that's what will get me most :metal - but any album I don't have by any artist will be allowed.

It would be awesome to see as many thread regulars here as possible having a go :heart

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/52092402.jpg)

And Kade.........I have all my submissions ready for your roulette , unless you throw some curveballs I am not expecting :lol :impatient:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 07:47:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 06:56:58 PM
And Kade.........I have all my submissions ready for your roulette , unless you throw some curveballs I am not expecting :lol :impatient:

Good lord, I only announced it 2 day or so ago and it's not running for another 6 months. :rollin Guess I can't back out now.

How the fuck am I gonna be in two roulettes at once? I'm going crazy enough with Chad. And yes Brent, there is probably gonna be stuff that can be sent, but it's gonna be a mission.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 08:02:59 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 07:47:42 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 06:56:58 PM
And Kade.........I have all my submissions ready for your roulette , unless you throw some curveballs I am not expecting :lol :impatient:

Good lord, I only announced it 2 day or so ago and it's not running for another 6 months. :rollin Guess I can't back out now.

How the fuck am I gonna be in two roulettes at once? I'm going crazy enough with Chad. And yes Brent, there is probably gonna be stuff that can be sent, but it's gonna be a mission.

I agree it's not ideal with Chad and I at the same time . I am in two at the moment myself and it's quite possible that with Evermind's up next I will be running one and participating in two or three at the same time , so you have it easy ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 09, 2015, 08:04:20 PM: Brent is the hard rock wizard. His roulette will be tough to compete in
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 08:09:49 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 07:47:42 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 06:56:58 PM
And Kade.........I have all my submissions ready for your roulette , unless you throw some curveballs I am not expecting :lol :impatient:

Good lord, I only announced it 2 day or so ago and it's not running for another 6 months. :rollin Guess I can't back out now.

How the fuck am I gonna be in two roulettes at once? I'm going crazy enough with Chad. And yes Brent, there is probably gonna be stuff that can be sent, but it's gonna be a mission.

I agree it's not ideal with Chad and I at the same time . I am in two at the moment myself and it's quite possible that with Evermind's up next I will be running one and participating in two or three at the same time , so you have it easy ;D

We should be getting paid for this shit. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 08:12:33 PM: You couldn't get a better group of hard rock and metal consultants than we have here - if only it was a viable business :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 08:17:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 08:12:33 PM
You couldn't get a better group of hard rock and metal consultants than we have here - if only it was a viable business :lol

Fuck you're right, you could be onto something here. We all have our expertise in different sub genres too :justjen
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 09, 2015, 08:22:52 PM: For as deep as your collection is, there are some gaping holes. We'll fill them up. Got one more 'check' list to send over to you.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 08:26:44 PM: I assume you have a list of bands or something Brent that we can use as a guideline. I know there are some holes, but unlike you two, I don't take notes when the discussions come up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 08:38:07 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 08:26:44 PM
I assume you have a list of bands or something Brent that we can use as a guideline. I know there are some holes, but unlike you two, I don't take notes when the discussions come up.

Like I said Kade..............come up with a list of some obvious and not so obvious bands , send it to me via PM or email and I will do the work for you telling you what albums I have and don't have by the bands in question. I reckon there's enough hints in that list a few posts back to get you through a couple of rounds if you're really struggling too.

I really can't see a "banned list" being much use - I've thought about it a lot . I can list the 2500 bands I have in my collection but even then I don't want to ban BANDS where I only have an album or two.

If anyone who is not a regular here joins up then I likely won't know anything they submit anyway (I have no idea who 90% of the bands are in most roulettes) and for you guys I think it's best to get some pre-approvals like Chad is doing and TAC has done.

One other thing I can do for you Kade (if you like) is review your Top 50 and tell you what I do and don't have.

You will also see later when I post the intro that I have a bonus system where you can attempt to convert me on all the "DTF faves" I have never got into - amongst those bands are Rush , Opeth etc...so there's more ideas there if you feel like a risk.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on September 09, 2015, 10:34:11 PM: I'm not starting my v2 soon. Not until the next year for sure. Maybe February or March.

I'm totally in for Brent's though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 10:50:02 PM: Quote from: Evermind on September 09, 2015, 10:34:11 PM
I'm not starting my v2 soon. Not until the next year for sure. Maybe February or March.

I'm totally in for Brent's though.

(https://img1.etsystatic.com/011/0/7806016/il_fullxfull.436859717_r22a.jpg) :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on September 09, 2015, 11:53:33 PM: Quote from: Evermind on September 09, 2015, 10:34:11 PM
I'm not starting my v2 soon. Not until the next year for sure. Maybe February or March.
The waiting list is going to be a bit of a clusterfuck with so many people waiting at the top, subbing in at any time. :lol And at this rate I might end up getting my v2 going before the end of the year. :mehlin

Quote from: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
Like I said Kade..............come up with a list of some obvious and not so obvious bands , send it to me via PM or email and I will do the work for you telling you what albums I have and don't have by the bands in question.
If you aren't doing a banned list, does that mean this applies to everyone, Brent? If so I might draw up a list too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 10, 2015, 12:00:24 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on September 09, 2015, 11:53:33 PM

Quote from: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
Like I said Kade..............come up with a list of some obvious and not so obvious bands , send it to me via PM or email and I will do the work for you telling you what albums I have and don't have by the bands in question.
If you aren't doing a banned list, does that mean this applies to everyone, Brent? If so I might draw up a list too.

Yes mate - I figure it's a much better idea than a banned artist list that crashes the internet where I may also be interested in some missing albums from some of them. It'll also help save on a lot of back and forward/re-submissions for participants.

I will mention that in my OP too - if I do it for some I should be willing to do it for everyone and I'm happy to do so.

Having said that I am dropping a few extra hints around here as the regulars here will have a lot more crossover with my collection and perhaps need a bit more help. If any of the young ones decide to have a go I doubt there'll be any worries about me knowing anything :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on September 10, 2015, 12:33:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 10, 2015, 12:00:24 AM
Having said that I am dropping a few extra hints around here as the regulars here will have a lot more crossover with my collection and perhaps need a bit more help. If any of the young ones decide to have a go I doubt there'll be any worries about me knowing anything :lol
Yeah, I kind of think I fall into the middle somewhere. I listen to plenty of rock/metal but not really enough to be aware of the obscure stuff so it's not easy finding things you might not know. On the other hand, there's a shit-ton of bands in my library outside of those genres but I don't think any of it is stuff that would appeal to you in the slightest and I don't feel like torturing you. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on September 10, 2015, 04:00:02 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on September 09, 2015, 11:53:33 PM
Quote from: Evermind on September 09, 2015, 10:34:11 PM
I'm not starting my v2 soon. Not until the next year for sure. Maybe February or March.
The waiting list is going to be a bit of a clusterfuck with so many people waiting at the top, subbing in at any time. :lol And at this rate I might end up getting my v2 going before the end of the year.

I know, but I didn't expect so many people to bail out when I was signing in for v2. The list was pretty long back then.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2015, 05:18:41 AM: That sounds all good Brent, I'm sure we'll all make it work.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 10, 2015, 05:37:58 AM: Old age is a bitch.........I have had a song in my head for 4 days now , I can remember all the melodies/riffs of the opening minute or so but no words (there goes Google) and for the life of me I cannot think who it is. I am loving the song though :lol >:(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2015, 06:03:08 AM: Sounds interesting. Any ideas? visuals? etc?
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Post by: bl5150 on September 10, 2015, 06:07:14 AM: Nah Kade........nothing except this riff/melody and it's starting to piss me off. I am hoping that it's buried in Chad's roulette playlist in iTunes .......if so I might come across it some time before 2020 as it's a fucking big playlist - he was on the waiting list 12 months or something :lol
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Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2015, 06:17:35 AM: haha, let us know if you figure it out. I hate shit like that. Especially when you wanna listen to the song.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 10, 2015, 03:19:53 PM: Nothing worse than the elusive ear worm. I feel your pain mate.
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Post by: TAC on September 10, 2015, 03:21:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 10, 2015, 05:37:58 AM
Old age is a bitch.........I have had a song in my head for 4 days now , I can remember all the melodies/riffs of the opening minute or so but no words (there goes Google) and for the life of me I cannot think who it is. I am loving the song though :lol >:(

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_8247_1440485741.jpeg)

Your avatar is fitting for this post!
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 10, 2015, 03:59:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 10, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 10, 2015, 05:37:58 AM
Old age is a bitch.........I have had a song in my head for 4 days now , I can remember all the melodies/riffs of the opening minute or so but no words (there goes Google) and for the life of me I cannot think who it is. I am loving the song though :lol >:(

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_8247_1440485741.jpeg)

Your avatar is fitting for this post!

How did you know it was a Winger song?
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Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2015, 04:03:37 PM: If it was a Winger song, he'd know that shit inside out.
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Post by: TAC on September 10, 2015, 04:08:50 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 10, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 10, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 10, 2015, 05:37:58 AM
Old age is a bitch.........I have had a song in my head for 4 days now , I can remember all the melodies/riffs of the opening minute or so but no words (there goes Google) and for the life of me I cannot think who it is. I am loving the song though :lol >:(

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_8247_1440485741.jpeg)

Your avatar is fitting for this post!

How did you know it was a Winger song?
Bitch's intuition!
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Post by: bl5150 on September 10, 2015, 06:59:28 PM: :lol
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Post by: Big Hath on September 10, 2015, 07:07:09 PM: so I took the advice of a few here and blind bought the Saxon Carrere Years set. This will be the first Saxon notes I have ever heard (that I know of). What do I start with?
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Post by: TAC on September 10, 2015, 07:15:29 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 10, 2015, 07:07:09 PM
so I took the advice of a few here and blind bought the Saxon Carrere Years set. This will be the first Saxon notes I have ever heard (that I know of). What do I start with?

Awesome!!!!!!!!!! :metal :metal

Just start at the beginning!
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Post by: Bolsters on September 10, 2015, 11:05:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 10, 2015, 05:37:58 AM
Old age is a bitch.........I have had a song in my head for 4 days now , I can remember all the melodies/riffs of the opening minute or so but no words (there goes Google) and for the life of me I cannot think who it is. I am loving the song though :lol >:(
I had one of these a month or two ago, and I'd completely forgotten about it by now fortunately. But I was sitting here just now going through some stuff for your roulette, and I fucking found it. :rollin
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2015, 01:24:10 AM: :lol

I just stumbled onto an old demo with this band photo. Who's the singer? (2nd from right). Not too hard actually :lol And that's some of the "best" glam gear ever.

(https://s29.postimg.org/v0ieks1if/wikkid.jpg)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 11, 2015, 01:36:28 AM: [img ]here was a picture of an older and fatter Seb Bach but somehow this link didn't work[/img ]
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2015, 01:37:50 AM: Is there any interest in the Hollywood Vampires project with Alice Cooper and Joe Perry (and Johhny Depp .....why? ::) ) It's mostly covers so not sure if I can be bothered .
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 11, 2015, 01:39:59 AM: yeah and it's covers we have heard a million times by a million artists. Not something that sounds interesting to me.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 11, 2015, 02:10:36 AM: Just read at mr.com about the "Carsten Lizard Schulz Syndicate" and realised that german names don't go well with metal. Never heard of this guy, but the name of this band sounds awkward :o

And approximately 40 million people in germany are named Schulz.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2015, 02:15:36 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 11, 2015, 02:10:36 AM
Just read at mr.com about the "Carsten Lizard Schulz Syndicate" and realised that german names don't go well with metal. Never heard of this guy, but the name of this band sounds awkward :o

And approximately 40 million people in germany are named Schulz.

Pretty decent singer and I was just listening to something with him on recently. I wouldn't have thought that many people have heard of him though and so not sure why the name.

Maybe he should get together with Jake E Lee and form the Carsten Lizard Schulz Red Dragon Syndicate.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 11, 2015, 02:18:52 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 10, 2015, 07:07:09 PM
so I took the advice of a few here and blind bought the Saxon Carrere Years set. This will be the first Saxon notes I have ever heard (that I know of). What do I start with?

:metal
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Post by: Lowdz on September 11, 2015, 03:32:53 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 11, 2015, 02:18:52 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on September 10, 2015, 07:07:09 PM
so I took the advice of a few here and blind bought the Saxon Carrere Years set. This will be the first Saxon notes I have ever heard (that I know of). What do I start with?

:metal

I'd skip the first album but everything from there is gold. They get better as they go up to Power & Glory, then drop a bit as they went a bit "American".
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 11, 2015, 05:23:32 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 11, 2015, 01:24:10 AM
:lol

I just stumbled onto an old demo with this band photo. Who's the singer? (2nd from right). Not too hard actually :lol And that's some of the "best" glam gear ever.

(https://s29.postimg.org/v0ieks1if/wikkid.jpg)

Wow... Didn't see it at first, and had to cheat with a google image search. You should send me something from them!
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 06:11:28 AM: Looks like Bach.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2015, 06:12:18 AM: (https://memecrunch.com/meme/DKNQ/correctamundo/image.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 06:15:17 AM: Didn't even have to use fucking google.

(https://daliennation.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/fuck-yea.jpg)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 11, 2015, 06:18:22 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 06:11:28 AM
Looks like Bach.

Saw it too and answered with a recent Bach picture but somehow my link didn't work (https://gifwelt.info/wp-content/uploads/s-traurig-weinen02.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 06:23:27 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 11, 2015, 06:18:22 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 06:11:28 AM
Looks like Bach.

Saw it too and answered with a recent Bach picture but somehow my link didn't work (https://gifwelt.info/wp-content/uploads/s-traurig-weinen02.gif)

Lucky for you there was no first prize.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 11, 2015, 06:36:29 AM: Was hoping for some winger pics ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2015, 06:38:04 AM: This is for you two to share

(https://s3.postimg.org/dmtleab37/kip.jpg)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 11, 2015, 06:41:04 AM: Knew what was coming, but this picture still amazes me :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 06:45:44 AM: No. he's mine!!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 11, 2015, 06:51:39 AM: I said amaze not arouse, you can have him.
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Post by: TAC on September 11, 2015, 09:55:56 AM: (https://i.imgur.com/MCXGX73.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2015, 09:57:09 AM: Wolfkip.......that'll deal with any arousal going on
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 03:25:18 PM: Yeah baby.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 13, 2015, 09:17:53 AM: Hmm..........tour promoter for my KISS gig in a few weeks busted on kokaine charges. Hope the gig isn't cancelled :-\
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 13, 2015, 06:31:47 PM: That would blow.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 13, 2015, 09:24:13 PM: (https://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu237/cgreggg/blow-cocaine-o.gif)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 13, 2015, 09:28:04 PM: (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/BlobVanDam/zyday.gif)
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 13, 2015, 09:44:10 PM: I can always count on DTF.
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Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2015, 05:46:18 AM: TMac has cancelled his tour as his surgery hasn't improved his health and requires further treatment. Fuck this doesn't sound good. Such a nice dude, fuck I hope he can pull through.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2015, 06:01:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 15, 2015, 05:46:18 AM
TMac has cancelled his tour as his surgery hasn't improved his health and requires further treatment. Fuck this doesn't sound good. Such a nice dude, fuck I hope he can pull through.

sorry to hear that :-\
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Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2015, 06:03:03 AM: Fucking sucks dude.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2015, 06:17:09 AM: FYI Kade...........pre-sale for Aussie Book of Souls tour starts on Friday. Brisbane date is 4th May 2016.
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Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2015, 06:21:48 AM: Yeah I saw that. I'm pretty slack with getting tickets as soon as they go on sale, but I'm thinking I shouldn't wait too long, I reckon tickets will go quite quick.
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Post by: Deathless on September 15, 2015, 11:09:37 AM: Anybody catch the new Def Leppard track that was posted? Can't remember if it was on Classic Rock or what... did it get pulled?

Edit: Here it is, in this rolling stone article - click it. (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/def-leppards-joe-elliott-on-taylor-swift-donald-trump-and-eighties-pride-20150915)
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Post by: TAC on September 15, 2015, 05:18:30 PM: I have a new favorite channel!!!

https://bravewords.com/news/bangertv-coming-soon-video-trailer-streaming

These guys are my heroes!
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Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2015, 10:16:33 PM: Samples from the new WASP in one 10 min YT vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGKvh92VeIs

Heard the new Def Leppard single and it's like a tired tribute to Pour Some Sugar On Me. That may not be a bad sign - if it's just "the single" factor - but if it's representative of the album then I doubt I will be interested.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 15, 2015, 10:23:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 15, 2015, 10:16:33 PM
Heard the new Def Leppard single and it's like a tired tribute to Pour Some Sugar On Me. That may not be a bad sign - if it's just "the single" factor - but if it's representative of the album then I doubt I will be interested.

Just checked it out. That whole riff section is definitely channeling Pour Some Sugar hard. Other than that, typically tame stuff, with the poppy prechorus/chorus. It kind of clashes with the loud downtuned guitar chords, which clashes with the blatant '80s drum sound. And Joe Elliott's vocals are pretty weak these days.
If it was an album of Pour Some Sugar On Me I'd be interested, but this song doesn't cut it for me. :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 16, 2015, 01:24:22 AM: The last Def Leppard I listened to was Hysteria. Did I miss something since then?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 16, 2015, 01:32:23 AM: They have other albums? :P

Oh, and I forgot to add the necessary ::) for going self titled.
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Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2015, 05:24:40 AM: Certainly nothing new from the WASP, but I'll eat it up, Blackie sounds awesome.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 16, 2015, 07:56:10 AM: The "Metal Voice" gave the new WASP a glowing review
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Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2015, 03:03:06 PM: I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by: Deathless on September 17, 2015, 08:56:37 AM: New Circle II Circle song - "Victim of the Night" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=VmvtwXf_4Tk)
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 17, 2015, 11:45:09 AM: Quote from: Deathless on September 17, 2015, 08:56:37 AM
New Circle II Circle song - "Victim of the Night" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=VmvtwXf_4Tk)

sounds awesome
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Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2015, 02:44:49 PM: Quote from: Deathless on September 17, 2015, 08:56:37 AM
New Circle II Circle song - "Victim of the Night" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=VmvtwXf_4Tk)

Great song, but the production sounds a little underwhelming. I'm sure the cd will sound better. Possibly the heaviest riffing we've heard from CIIC.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 17, 2015, 03:38:01 PM: C2C is one of the most consistent metal bands you will ever see.
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Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2015, 06:23:21 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 17, 2015, 03:38:01 PM
C2C is one of the most consistent metal bands you will ever see.

They really are. I'm really liking the darker tones of this new song too, looking forward to the album.
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Post by: Deathless on September 18, 2015, 06:56:47 AM: I'm with you Wolf, compared to their recent stuff the production is... really bad. I'm digging the heavier mood of it though.
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Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2015, 07:06:04 AM: Quote from: Deathless on September 18, 2015, 06:56:47 AM
I'm with you Wolf, compared to their recent stuff the production is... really bad. I'm digging the heavier mood of it though.

I actually thought the last album was produced really well, but the couple before that were quite poor. We'll see once the cd comes out. The quality of songwriting usually makes up for it when it comes to CIIC though.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 18, 2015, 08:13:36 AM: Quote from: Deathless on September 18, 2015, 06:56:47 AM
I'm with you Wolf, compared to their recent stuff the production is... really bad. I'm digging the heavier mood of it though.

Youtube quotes suggest the real cd sounds much better. YT does kill the sound.
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Post by: ozzy554 on September 18, 2015, 04:22:43 PM: Well I was going to see The Who in october but I guess it will have to wait until spring.

https://thewho.com/postponed-2015-north-american-tour/ (https://thewho.com/postponed-2015-north-american-tour/)
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Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2015, 04:52:10 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 18, 2015, 08:13:36 AM
Quote from: Deathless on September 18, 2015, 06:56:47 AM
I'm with you Wolf, compared to their recent stuff the production is... really bad. I'm digging the heavier mood of it though.

Youtube quotes suggest the real cd sounds much better. YT does kill the sound.

I was surprised how much it killed the new Maiden.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2015, 04:57:59 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on September 18, 2015, 04:22:43 PM
Well I was going to see The Who in october but I guess it will have to wait until spring.

https://thewho.com/postponed-2015-north-american-tour/ (https://thewho.com/postponed-2015-north-american-tour/)

that sucks
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Post by: Lowdz on September 21, 2015, 01:56:14 PM: Magnus Karlssons Freefall track is on YouTube. Jorn singing kingdom of rock.

https://youtu.be/Sjfly9fvmkc
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 21, 2015, 02:02:55 PM: Sweet... I was looking for it this morning, since it was announced the iTunes pre-buyers now had it for download. Not so exclusive to pre-buyers!

Digging it. Jorn + Magnus always puts a smile in my pants.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 21, 2015, 02:20:43 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 21, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
Sweet... I was looking for it this morning, since it was announced the iTunes pre-buyers now had it for download. Not so exclusive to pre-buyers!

Digging it. Jorn + Magnus always puts a smile in my pants.

Yeah it's ok. Not the first time he's played the big riff then everything stops for the quiet verse. A bit Magnus by numbers but it's fine.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 21, 2015, 02:21:39 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 21, 2015, 02:20:43 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 21, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
Sweet... I was looking for it this morning, since it was announced the iTunes pre-buyers now had it for download. Not so exclusive to pre-buyers!

Digging it. Jorn + Magnus always puts a smile in my pants.

Yeah it's ok. Not the first time he's played the big riff then everything stops for the quiet verse. A bit Magnus by numbers but it's fine.

Yeah, you could definitey hear a few reprises from Allen/Lande material.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 21, 2015, 03:29:17 PM: Song sounds good to me.
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Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2015, 03:31:08 PM: Fucking love it. Sounds so much like Battle style Allen/Lande in the chours.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 22, 2015, 04:54:36 AM: Liking it - plenty of cliches and Allen/Lande vibes but I think I like it better than anything off Freefall. It certainly rocks :metal

More melodic rock than hard rock but another Find Me album out December too.
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Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 05:09:13 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 22, 2015, 04:54:36 AM
More melodic rock than hard rock but another Find Me album out December too.

Oh hell yeah. I really liked the first one actually. Robbie has an amazing voice.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 22, 2015, 05:19:24 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 05:09:13 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 22, 2015, 04:54:36 AM
More melodic rock than hard rock but another Find Me album out December too.

Oh hell yeah. I really liked the first one actually. Robbie has an amazing voice.

Meant to post that (Find Me) yesterday. Might check it out... Bolsters gave me that in my first roulette, but I never went looking/listening for it.

And for my tastes, it's nowhere near FF 1, but I'm cool with it. Given the cast of vocalists, I can see it being a tad 'softer' this time around - not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Post by: Bolsters on September 22, 2015, 05:20:49 AM: Good news regarding Find Me, I enjoyed the first album quite a bit.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 22, 2015, 06:35:23 AM: Metal Allegiance's version of We Rock could've been damn good but for a couple of fucking awful cameos by Chuck Billy and Steve Souza - ditch the last couple of guitar solos too. Shame.......most of it I like.

https://youtu.be/xjxpMCiUI7Q
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Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 07:00:24 AM: Note to self, don't send Brent any Exodus or Testament. I agree they sucked on this. Ripper probably should have sung the whole thing. Geez, he got fat too.

I'm not really digging what I've heard from this project too much. Man Skolnick is a beast though.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 22, 2015, 07:02:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 07:00:24 AM
Note to self, don't send Brent any Exodus or Testament. I agree they sucked on this. Ripper probably should have sung the whole thing. Geez, he got fat too.

I'm not really digging what I've heard from this project too much. Man Skolnick is a beast though.

Never was much into Exodus but I really like some of Testament's more melodic stuff - I also dislike plenty too. But he just sounds shit there and Souza WTF!.........if that's the current state of his voice I can't even imagine him singing metal of any kind.
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Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 07:08:55 AM: Only have a couple of Exodus albums, but haven't followed them so I couldn't tell you. It was pretty comical though, almost a joke.

Testament have some real gems in there but some filler also. Their newer stuff has been really good. I didn't think you'd like any Testament Brent cause of Chuck's vocals, but I guess their music is so good, some is hard to ignore.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 22, 2015, 07:10:46 AM: Yeah Chuck has been a bit up and down over the years (partly due to health) but he was never the strongest vocalist - on some of their better material they sort of mask it with reverb. I am more a fan of stuff like (songs) Practice What You Preach, Electric Crown :metal etc.......and yeah if it wasn't for Skolnick I may not have bothered,.
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Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 07:15:51 AM: I'm the same re Testament cause of Skolnick, he's just incredible.

I also love Over the Wall, New World Order, they were two of my favs along with those two you mentioned.

I never fully explored the stuff they did with James Murphy, he's great too, although a bit heavier probably not up your alley.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 22, 2015, 07:25:42 AM: Yeah, Chuck Billy and the dude afterwards were an absolute joke. I skipped the solo section, but otherwise it was not bad. I'm not a fan of the alternating vocals approach; at least stick to one vocalist per song. It felt like We're Stars, except on the wrong side of 1990.
It was nice to hear Jericho sing something cool for the first time in a decade, and this is the first time I've heard the new Arch Enemy vocalist sing, since she hasn't had that chance in Arch Enemy. There was nothing wrong with the rest of the vocalists, but it doesn't feel serious to me with so many different vocals.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 22, 2015, 09:10:38 PM: I stopped with the shirts etc.....as I could've gone on forever and there wasn't a great deal of discussion ,but I reckon you will like something I stumbled onto today Kade and jj.

I'm all Sava'd out. I have my original Gutter Ballet shirt on which has the album cover on the front and the trash can/guitar/rat on the back. And keeping me warm is a hoodie from the debut album tour for Circle II Circle. You won't see many of those around. The back has tour dates etc.....

(https://s9.postimg.org/funz2txcv/Picture_29.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 09:16:48 PM: That's fucking legit, that would be so rare.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2015, 10:01:39 PM: Awesome sweater and awesome band

Love that new tune from C2C
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Post by: gazinwales on September 22, 2015, 10:11:14 PM: The MA album holds zero interest for me.
The core of DA/MP/AS are pretty good, and for me AS is an absolute monster player.
But the vocalists aren't anything great.
We Rock sounds good, but nothing extraordinary.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 22, 2015, 10:22:58 PM: I always dreamed of Hammett leaving Metallica and being replaced by Skolnick but no dice.
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Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 10:40:15 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 22, 2015, 10:22:58 PM
I always dreamed of Hammett leaving Metallica and being replaced by Skolnick but no dice.

That would have been incredible.

Quote from: gazinwales on September 22, 2015, 10:11:14 PM
The MA album holds zero interest for me.
The core of DA/MP/AS are pretty good, and for me AS is an absolute monster player.
But the vocalists aren't anything great.
We Rock sounds good, but nothing extraordinary.

Yeah I won't bother buying it. One album like this that I really enjoyed was the Roadrunner united quite a few years back, that was awesome.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2015, 01:23:59 AM: I thought it was ok but as gaz says, the vocalists aren't of interest to me on the whole. I'd have taken chuck on the whole thing but then I guess it would be a testament album.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 23, 2015, 07:57:51 AM: Handy WASP setlist on tour:

01. On Your Knees
02. Inside the Electric Circus
03. The Real Me (THE WHO cover)
04. L.O.V.E. Machine
05. Last Runaway
06. Crazy
07. The Titanic Overture
08. Arena of Pleasure
09. Miss You / Thunderhead
10. Hellion
11. I Don't Need No Doctor (RAY CHARLES cover)
12. Golgotha
13. Chainsaw Charlie (Murders in the New Morgue)
14. Wild Child
15. I Wanna Be Somebody
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Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2015, 08:02:11 AM: That doesn't seem a very long setlist. Was thinking of going, they were in Manchester recently? but never got around to it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2015, 08:03:57 AM: Was just searching their tour schedule... shocking, nothing in NA yet. Gives me time to get in to them. Hopefully they'll come around next year.
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Post by: TAC on September 23, 2015, 08:04:39 AM: Pretty heavy on the old stuff.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 23, 2015, 01:45:22 PM: good set list
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Post by: TAC on September 23, 2015, 01:55:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 17, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: Deathless on September 17, 2015, 08:56:37 AM
New Circle II Circle song - "Victim of the Night" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=VmvtwXf_4Tk)

Great song, but the production sounds a little underwhelming. I'm sure the cd will sound better. Possibly the heaviest riffing we've heard from CIIC.

That's really cool. Sick guitar solos. I may jump in here with them. JJ sent me them in my roulette and I liked that track.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2015, 02:55:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 23, 2015, 01:55:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 17, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: Deathless on September 17, 2015, 08:56:37 AM
New Circle II Circle song - "Victim of the Night" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=VmvtwXf_4Tk)

Great song, but the production sounds a little underwhelming. I'm sure the cd will sound better. Possibly the heaviest riffing we've heard from CIIC.

That's really cool. Sick guitar solos. I may jump in here with them. JJ sent me them in my roulette and I liked that track.

Guess I should be expecting them sometime soon then. I'll probably hate them then :neverusethis:
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Post by: Deathless on September 23, 2015, 08:01:47 PM: Lol you guys will get a kick out of this (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/revamped-ratt-to-embark-on-re-invasion-tour/).

I guess Bobby Blotzer has gotten control of the Ratt name... he's taking his crew of vagabonds on the road in NA for a "Re-invasion tour". Dates are TBA.

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/rattreinvasiontourbigger_638.jpg)

On a side note, his band doesn't sound that bad. The singer sounds decent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=74&v=FZumTiqli8Y Nothing like Tate's scabryche that went out a few years ago.
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Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2015, 08:15:46 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 23, 2015, 07:57:51 AM
Handy WASP setlist on tour:

01. On Your Knees
02. Inside the Electric Circus
03. The Real Me (THE WHO cover)
04. L.O.V.E. Machine
05. Last Runaway
06. Crazy
07. The Titanic Overture
08. Arena of Pleasure
09. Miss You / Thunderhead
10. Hellion
11. I Don't Need No Doctor (RAY CHARLES cover)
12. Golgotha
13. Chainsaw Charlie (Murders in the New Morgue)
14. Wild Child
15. I Wanna Be Somebody

Solid. Arena of Pleasure, Thunderhead, hell yeah.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 23, 2015, 09:35:39 PM: I've seen a few vids of that young "Ratt" singer and yeah - he's pretty damn good and better than Pearcy has sounded in ages ,possibly ever :lol
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Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 05:23:38 AM: They might get more people there if they didn't put their picture on the poster. Fuck me.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 24, 2015, 05:29:04 AM: Yeah, this kind of posing and the see-through shirt may work for :TAC: but it's so 80s
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Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 05:34:50 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 24, 2015, 05:29:04 AM
Yeah, this kind of posing and the see-through shirt may work for :TAC: but it's so 80s

But at least Winger were good looking and didn't look like a Steel Panther wannabe band. The middle guy is for sure trying to look like bass player Magnus Rosen.

(https://www.powermetal.cl/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/nd-magnusrosen.jpg)

haha
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2015, 05:38:39 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 05:23:38 AM
They might get more people there if they didn't put their picture on the poster. Fuck me.

No shit. Men should never do a duck-face.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 24, 2015, 04:22:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 23, 2015, 09:35:39 PM
I've seen a few vids of that young "Ratt" singer and yeah - he's pretty damn good and better than Pearcy has sounded in ages ,possibly ever :lol

Yes he does sound very good.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 25, 2015, 02:53:36 PM: Anyone up for Ugly Kid Joe?

America's Least Wanted was nice (althought the hit "Everything About You" was shit) and Menace To Sobriety is still one damn fine metal album.

Seems like they got together again and got a new album out: "Uglier Than They Used Ta Be" but haven't heard it yet.
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Post by: TAC on September 25, 2015, 02:56:08 PM: Never got into them back in the day. Can't see that changing now.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 25, 2015, 03:02:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2015, 02:56:08 PM
Never got into them back in the day. Can't see that changing now.

I bought the first album as I quite liked the single but there wasn't much else of note on it. Didn't bother with anything else. Can't say I'm too interested in a new album. Might have a listen .
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:03:35 PM: I thought UKJ did a good job covering Cats in the Cradle.

And the song with Rob Halford was very good.
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Post by: TAC on September 25, 2015, 06:09:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
And the song with Rob Halford was very good.

Most songs with Rob Halford are! ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:10:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
And the song with Rob Halford was very good.

Most songs with Rob Halford are! ;D

good call!
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Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2015, 11:43:07 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
And the song with Rob Halford was very good.

Most songs with Rob Halford are! ;D

His Fight stuff would beg to differ :lol
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Post by: TAC on September 26, 2015, 12:38:12 PM: Fight was pretty cool.
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Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2015, 04:04:44 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 26, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
And the song with Rob Halford was very good.

Most songs with Rob Halford are! ;D

His Fight stuff would beg to differ :lol

Hey? Fight was awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2015, 04:40:44 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 26, 2015, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 26, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
And the song with Rob Halford was very good.

Most songs with Rob Halford are! ;D

His Fight stuff would beg to differ :lol

Hey? Fight was awesome.

I heard the second album only and didn't like it at all. Just having a. Listen to the first one and it's ok. I thought it was meant to be his industrial metal project but I don't hear that.i was just joking but, yeah, not that bad and I'd take it over Pantera, which is what it seems aimed at.

Edit . Think I mixed fight up with Two. That was the industrial shit.

Just listening to Resurrection now, that was a good album, and the live album awesome too.
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Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2015, 04:49:48 PM: Yeah, Two was the experimental industrial one. I don't think I've honestly listened to that album in full at all.

Resurrection is just incredible. Crucible has a more modern darker edge but is awesome also IMO. Winter Songs did nothing for me and Made of Metal was hit and miss, but had some good songs on it. Just the quality was no where near Resurrection or Crucible.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 26, 2015, 05:19:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 26, 2015, 04:49:48 PM
Yeah, Two was the experimental industrial one. I don't think I've honestly listened to that album in full at all.

Resurrection is just incredible. Crucible has a more modern darker edge but is awesome also IMO. Winter Songs did nothing for me and Made of Metal was hit and miss, but had some good songs on it. Just the quality was no where near Resurrection or Crucible.

You summed up all of the Halford discs perfectly.

The two Fight albums are pretty good; the first was much better. However, I found the Fight albums don't even touch Resurrection and Crucible.

I'm not sure what that Two thing was. Rob's voice was boring, but I think he was intentionally trying to get away from the 80s metal singing. The album did nothing for me and other's seemed to agree, I think it did poorly.
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Post by: TAC on September 26, 2015, 05:48:18 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 26, 2015, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 26, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
And the song with Rob Halford was very good.

Most songs with Rob Halford are! ;D

His Fight stuff would beg to differ :lol

Hey? Fight was awesome.

So I do have a Fight story. I saw them open for Anthrax in 1993. It was a small club I Providence, and in the pit for Fight, I literally saw some dude the most bloodied I've ever seen anybody.
So for Anthrax, we went up to the balcony, and Scott Travis watched Anthrax right next to us! I shook his hand and told him that they were awesome.
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Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2015, 03:34:31 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 26, 2015, 05:19:46 PM
However, I found the Fight albums don't even touch Resurrection and Crucible.

No, they don't. Not even close.

Quote from: TAC on September 26, 2015, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 26, 2015, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 26, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
And the song with Rob Halford was very good.

Most songs with Rob Halford are! ;D

His Fight stuff would beg to differ :lol

Hey? Fight was awesome.

So I do have a Fight story. I saw them open for Anthrax in 1993. It was a small club I Providence, and in the pit for Fight, I literally saw some dude the most bloodied I've ever seen anybody.
So for Anthrax, we went up to the balcony, and Scott Travis watched Anthrax right next to us! I shook his hand and told him that they were awesome.

I know you probably didn't do that intentionally, but nice pun.
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Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2015, 03:49:07 AM: New Michael Dennar and Hank Sherman song;

https://youtu.be/qINa6rpZxVc

Pretty fuckin' good. Wish it was a full album though.
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Post by: TAC on September 27, 2015, 06:28:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 27, 2015, 03:34:31 AM

Quote from: TAC on September 26, 2015, 05:48:18 PM
So I do have a Fight story. I saw them open for Anthrax in 1993. It was a small club I Providence, and in the pit for Fight, I literally saw some dude the most bloodied I've ever seen anybody.
So for Anthrax, we went up to the balcony, and Scott Travis watched Anthrax right next to us! I shook his hand and told him that they were awesome.

I know you probably didn't do that intentionally, but nice pun.

:lol

No that wasn't intentional. Didn't even think of it. Completely subliminal. But :tup for catching it!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 28, 2015, 01:10:38 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 25, 2015, 03:02:35 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2015, 02:56:08 PM
Never got into them back in the day. Can't see that changing now.

I bought the first album as I quite liked the single but there wasn't much else of note on it. Didn't bother with anything else. Can't say I'm too interested in a new album. Might have a listen .

I didn't like the single, maybe that's why I like the album because it's different from the single. ;D

I would recommend "Menace To Sobriety" as the go to album for UKJ.

Heard some snippets from the new one and they didn't exactly excite me, so probably I won't buy it.
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Post by: wolfking on September 28, 2015, 05:28:38 AM: Having a listen to the new Lynch Mob. Not really feeling it hey.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 28, 2015, 09:03:04 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 28, 2015, 05:28:38 AM
Having a listen to the new Lynch Mob. Not really feeling it hey.

Yeah - I thought it had a couple of strong tracks but a bit too laid back for my liking. I think there might be some good bonus tracks floating around but haven't got onto that.

I expect to have the new Queensryche in the house tonight :hat
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 28, 2015, 09:56:56 PM: Brent give us a QR update after you listen to it a few times please
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Post by: bl5150 on September 28, 2015, 09:59:08 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 28, 2015, 09:56:56 PM
Brent give us a QR update after you listen to it a few times please

I think it is going to take a few listens. I have actually heard the first half now and it's not very immediate thus far. Nothing bad either ,but just not much to grab you by the throat without spending some time on it. Guardian is my fave so far.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 29, 2015, 02:52:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 28, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 28, 2015, 09:56:56 PM
Brent give us a QR update after you listen to it a few times please

I think it is going to take a few listens. I have actually heard the first half now and it's not very immediate thus far. Nothing bad either ,but just not much to grab you by the throat without spending some time on it. Guardian is my fave so far.

I was listening to the 3 tracks they already have out there and really like them. I have high hopes for a decent album.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 03:15:40 AM: Oh it's definitely decent Paul -no question. I am half way through my second listen and it's already improving my rating. It won't end up as highly rated as Mindcrime , Rage For Order or (most likely) Empire/Warning but over time I think it may well be next best.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 29, 2015, 03:49:06 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 03:15:40 AM
Oh it's definitely decent Paul -no question. I am half way through my second listen and it's already improving my rating. It won't end up as highly rated as Mindcrime , Rage For Order or (most likely) Empire/Warning but over time I think it may well be next best.

Sounding good then. I know you're not a big fan of Promised Land, and neither am I really - there's half a great album there but too much filler. And it was downhill from there. I may be alone in liking some of O:M 2, though the production was crap, but since then only the S/T is listenable. I'm optimistic then.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 04:08:22 AM: OK after two and a bit listens I'll go with a rating of 86% (compared to the s/t at 81%). it's an album with very strong bookends and a bit of a lull in the mid section.

My ratings look something like this - Arrow of Time has grown on me now.

1.   "Arrow of Time"    3:59 :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup

2.   "Guardian"    4:19 :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup

3.   "Hellfire"    5:05 :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup

4.   "Toxic Remedy"    4:09 :tup :tup :tup :tup

5.   "Selfish Lives"    4:57 :tup :tup :tup

6.   "Eye9"    3:20 :tup :tup :tup :tup

7.   "Bulletproof"    4:00 :tup :tup :tup :tup

8.   "Hourglass"    5:09 :tup :tup :tup :tup

9.   "Just Us"    5:58 :tup :tup :tup :tup

10.   "All There Was"    3:44 :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup

11.   "The Aftermath"    0:59

12.   "Condition Hüman" :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup

So.........very good album but they still seem to be lacking the same degree of memorable melodies that they had at their peak - whether that's due to the absence of DeGarmo or not I don't know. I suspect it has a bit to do with it as the solos aren't quite there either in many cases.

So the tracks released so far are 3 of the best 5 IMO. But Condition Human (title track) , and less so Hellfire and Guardian are definitely the most classic sounding tracks since Empire IMO. Condition Human may well be my favourite track since Empire, even though the soloing isn't up to scratch.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 29, 2015, 04:12:29 AM: Cool. Can't wait for this to arrive - with Winery Dogs and WASP.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 04:14:18 AM: I haven't heard the Winery Dogs but those I know who have seem to think it's clearly better than the debut.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 29, 2015, 04:45:13 AM: Sounds good, looking forward to it
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2015, 05:23:18 AM: Damn I hope I can find Ryche and WASP instore this weekend.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 29, 2015, 06:40:17 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2015, 05:23:18 AM
Damn I hope I can find Ryche and WASP instore this weekend.

I would be surprised if at least one of them isn't in store.
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Post by: TAC on September 29, 2015, 08:48:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 04:14:18 AM
I haven't heard the Winery Dogs but those I know who have seem to think it's clearly better than the debut.
It cannot be worse.
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2015, 02:57:24 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 29, 2015, 06:40:17 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2015, 05:23:18 AM
Damn I hope I can find Ryche and WASP instore this weekend.

I would be surprised if at least one of them isn't in store.

Ryche been pushed back to the 9th for me! :censored
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 06:05:08 PM: Got my hands on a low bitrate (192) reviewers copy of the new WASP. Will check it out at some point today - squeezing as much in between roulette rounds as I can. :metal

From a Queensryche point of view the good news is that I have the urge to return to my favourite tracks on that album for more listens. That's pretty much the first time that has happened since Empire.
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Post by: TAC on September 29, 2015, 06:10:44 PM: I'm trying to get excited about the new WASP but I thought the song Scream sucked.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 06:13:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 29, 2015, 06:10:44 PM
I'm trying to get excited about the new WASP but I thought the song Scream sucked.

I agree to some extent . I think it's a decent song taken in isolation (if you weren't a WASP fan) but if you know their stuff it's just way too familiar/safe and that's where most of the suckage is for me. I expect the album will be like their last couple (which have been the best in ages) where there were a few really strong tracks in among a lot of cookie cutter WASP stuff.
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Post by: TAC on September 29, 2015, 06:21:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 29, 2015, 06:10:44 PM
I'm trying to get excited about the new WASP but I thought the song Scream sucked.

I agree to some extent . I think it's a decent song taken in isolation (if you weren't a WASP fan) but if you know their stuff it's just way too familiar/safe and that's where most of the suckage is for me. I expect the album will be like their last couple (which have been the best in ages) where there were a few really strong tracks in among a lot of cookie cutter WASP stuff.

I literally haven't paid attention to a new release by WASP since The Headless Children, and haven't sampled anything since save for The Crimson Idol. So with all of the WASP chatter around here lately, I figured I'd jump in on the new album with everyone, but that first song was terrible and I am likely, if not probably, skipping it altogether.
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2015, 08:33:14 PM: I'm really looking forward to the WASP, but I'm a fanboy. I eat up the same shit Blackie serves for breakfast every time. Last couple were great IMO.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 10:47:24 PM: Well I have just had my first serving of Blackie's breakfast shit and I rate it around the same as Queensryche (86%)

Main points:

- great sounding
- Blackie has regained peak form and sounds great
- the WASP formula is in overdrive so it's a bit one paced , so nothing like the variety on albums like The Headless Children
- it's on the softer side......it's hard rock / metal but not as heavy as albums like s/t , Headless etc...

Even though I have rated them around the same, WASP's rating reflects consistency across the album whereas the Queensryche has much higher highs but a definite low or two IMO.

If I were to pick an album I wanted to play again right now (and the one I think has the most longevity) it would be the Queensryche. I'll just skip a few tracks .
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Post by: gazinwales on September 29, 2015, 11:51:25 PM: OMG all this talk of WASP is making me feel very old.
I remember being in school when the debut album came out and the Animal single.
I haven't bothered with them since THC and surprised to hear that Blackie's voice is so strong.
After seeing him lyp sync at a concert in the mid 2000's, I assumed his voice was shot.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 30, 2015, 02:20:19 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on September 29, 2015, 11:51:25 PM
OMG all this talk of WASP is making me feel very old.
I remember being in school when the debut album came out and the Animal single.
I haven't bothered with them since THC and surprised to hear that Blackie's voice is so strong.
After seeing him lyp sync at a concert in the mid 2000's, I assumed his voice was shot.

I remember them the same - I bought the animal single on picture disc, the codpiece one. Iloved that first album then it was a bit 50/50 for the next couple until Headles Children and the awesome Crimson Idol. After that I lost touch fro a while - the Neon God stuff didn't live up to its predecessor. Babylon was very good and I like what I've heard so far from the new one.
Blackie sounds as good as he ever has.
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Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2015, 04:54:53 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 30, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
the Neon God stuff didn't live up to its predecessor.

No, but I don't think these albums were as bad as everyone said. I think the thing that let it down was the production, it's pretty bad and I think the last two sound great. If Neon God had a stronger production like Babylon and Dominator, it would have helped it a lot.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 30, 2015, 10:42:48 AM: Haven't heard them in years so can't remember anything about them. Will see if they are on Spotify while I wait for the newie
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 30, 2015, 11:11:46 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 30, 2015, 04:54:53 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 30, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
the Neon God stuff didn't live up to its predecessor.

No, but I don't think these albums were as bad as everyone said. I think the thing that let it down was the production, it's pretty bad and I think the last two sound great. If Neon God had a stronger production like Babylon and Dominator, it would have helped it a lot.

I haven't heard anything since Unholy Terror and Dying for the World. I thought those two were solid releases but didn't compare to the S/T- Crimson Idol for me.
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Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2015, 09:22:32 PM: Am I the only one that found the self titled, THC and TCI absolutely perfect yet TLC and ITEC not up to scratch and contained filler?
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Post by: bl5150 on September 30, 2015, 09:27:02 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 30, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Am I the only one that found the self titled, THC and TCI absolutely perfect yet TLC and ITEC not up to scratch and contained filler?

No ........I agree. But when I did my WASP rankings a while back I enjoyed those lesser albums a bit more than I remembered.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 30, 2015, 11:48:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 29, 2015, 08:48:42 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 04:14:18 AM
I haven't heard the Winery Dogs but those I know who have seem to think it's clearly better than the debut.
It cannot be worse.

Wanna bet ? :lol

I have had a quick chance to listen to the new one and I think I like it quite a bit less than the debut - from what little I rememeber of it :P I agree with a post in the dedicated thread that it's a bit more funky if anything. I find a lot of Kotzen related stuff is fine to listen to , but the songs sorta blur into each other. They have that funky, bluesy vibe and very little variation in sound/tempo/vocal register. And the occasional ballads aren't all that great either. On this album it's a track called Fire that is decent with a nice guitar solo ,but nothing I would rave about, and another decent bluesy ballad called Think It Over.

I can get through a listen okay (struggling by the end) but have very little desire to return to it , as very little stands out as fantastic.

So I will likely rate the new one around 70-ish right now but over time I am not sure. I get the feeling it will have very little staying power.
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Post by: Bolsters on September 30, 2015, 11:51:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 30, 2015, 11:48:40 PM
I can get through a listen okay (struggling by the end) but have very little desire to return to it , as very little stands out as fantastic.
My feelings towards both albums.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 01, 2015, 12:37:58 AM: Still trying (not really) to digest the first Winery Dogs. It sounds kinda nice but has a serious lack in high points, every song sounds kinda samey and the album is too long for that. And Chris Cornell was better in Soundgarden. So I'm not sure if I'm up for a second one.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 01, 2015, 04:33:21 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 30, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Am I the only one that found the self titled, THC and TCI absolutely perfect yet TLC and ITEC not up to scratch and contained filler?

No that's exactly how I feel.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2015, 04:56:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 30, 2015, 09:27:02 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 30, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Am I the only one that found the self titled, THC and TCI absolutely perfect yet TLC and ITEC not up to scratch and contained filler?

No ........I agree. But when I did my WASP rankings a while back I enjoyed those lesser albums a bit more than I remembered.

I'll definitely have to get them out again. I don't listen to them all that often. There's a couple of real gems on Circus though. Mainly, Restless Gypsy and I'm Alive.

Quote from: Lowdz on October 01, 2015, 04:33:21 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 30, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Am I the only one that found the self titled, THC and TCI absolutely perfect yet TLC and ITEC not up to scratch and contained filler?

No that's exactly how I feel.

:tup
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2015, 05:40:22 AM: The title track from Circus was probably my favorite from the first three albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 01, 2015, 11:30:07 AM: Restless Gypsy is a fantastic song
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Post by: Lowdz on October 01, 2015, 11:35:46 AM: There was enough good stuff across TLC and TEC to make one great album but there was plenty of filler.

WTTEC is a cool song.
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Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2015, 02:28:42 PM: The title track and Gypsy are incredible songs indeed.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 04, 2015, 05:14:12 PM: This thread almost went to Page 2 of GMD .........ain't gonna happen :biggrin:

Just having my first listen to the Denner/Sherman album (EP) . I like it - just not sure how much after the first listen. The guitars are suitably :metal but the vocals/songs are growers I think.
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Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2015, 04:56:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 04, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
This thread almost went to Page 2 of GMD .........ain't gonna happen :biggrin:

Just having my first listen to the Denner/Sherman album (EP) . I like it - just not sure how much after the first listen. The guitars are suitably :metal but the vocals/songs are growers I think.

I've only heard Peck in Death Dealer which didn't do it for me. Never heard any Cage. He sounds good on this though.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2015, 08:36:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 04:08:22 AM
OK after two and a bit listens I'll go with a rating of 86% (compared to the s/t at 81%).

After playing the new Queensryche in the car for a couple of hours today I would say the 86% gets upgraded to somewhere in the low 90's. If I was to nitpick the rhythm guitars could do with a little more prominence in the mix at times and some of the guitar solos sound wrong/incomplete. At times it seems like Wilton is playing the low half of one of his old harmonies with DeGarmo, only DeGarmo ain't there. There's some WTF moments with those guitar solos .

But as I said - that's nitpicking and it's a really strong album that would've slotted in nicely between Empire and Promised Land. :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2015, 10:13:15 PM: Now playing........

(https://musicallighthouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Stryper-Fallen-2015.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2015, 11:00:05 PM: If I was to rank the Stryper with the WASP and Queensryche it would come in 3rd but it's a solid album. Another album that starts strong , has a mid section (lengthy) lull and then fires up for a couple of great tracks at the end. Cut three or four filler tracks of the 12 and I would enjoy it a lot more. Rating around 80%
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Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2015, 11:46:48 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2015, 08:36:32 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 04:08:22 AM
OK after two and a bit listens I'll go with a rating of 86% (compared to the s/t at 81%).

After playing the new Queensryche in the car for a couple of hours today I would say the 86% gets upgraded to somewhere in the low 90's. If I was to nitpick the rhythm guitars could do with a little more prominence in the mix at times and some of the guitar solos sound wrong/incomplete. At times it seems like Wilton is playing the low half of one of his old harmonies with DeGarmo, only DeGarmo ain't there. There's some WTF moments with those guitar solos .

But as I said - that's nitpicking and it's a really strong album that would've slotted in nicely between Empire and Promised Land. :metal

Big score mate, looking forward to it. Is the WTF moments with the solos a good or bad thing?

Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2015, 11:00:05 PM
If I was to rank the Stryper with the WASP and Queensryche it would come in 3rd but it's a solid album. Another album that starts strong , has a mid section (lengthy) lull and then fires up for a couple of great tracks at the end. Cut three or four filler tracks of the 12 and I would enjoy it a lot more. Rating around 80%

Not as good as No More Hell to Pay then?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2015, 11:51:06 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 05, 2015, 11:46:48 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2015, 08:36:32 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2015, 04:08:22 AM
OK after two and a bit listens I'll go with a rating of 86% (compared to the s/t at 81%).

After playing the new Queensryche in the car for a couple of hours today I would say the 86% gets upgraded to somewhere in the low 90's. If I was to nitpick the rhythm guitars could do with a little more prominence in the mix at times and some of the guitar solos sound wrong/incomplete. At times it seems like Wilton is playing the low half of one of his old harmonies with DeGarmo, only DeGarmo ain't there. There's some WTF moments with those guitar solos .

But as I said - that's nitpicking and it's a really strong album that would've slotted in nicely between Empire and Promised Land. :metal

Big score mate, looking forward to it. Is the WTF moments with the solos a good or bad thing?

Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2015, 11:00:05 PM
If I was to rank the Stryper with the WASP and Queensryche it would come in 3rd but it's a solid album. Another album that starts strong , has a mid section (lengthy) lull and then fires up for a couple of great tracks at the end. Cut three or four filler tracks of the 12 and I would enjoy it a lot more. Rating around 80%

Not as good as No More Hell to Pay then?

I would say the Stryper gets a similar rating to the last one.

As far as the Queensryche guitar solos - the WTF moments are in a bad way. Not enough to ruin any songs really but there were a number of times when the solo could've/should've resolved a certain way to go to another level and didn't and it just left me flat. And like I mentioned some of them sound like a double guitar harmony with the high guitar missing......doesn't sound right.

I'm sure many of the solos I have recorded over the years are shite too , but I dunno..........some of the solos on this record sound amateurish.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 06, 2015, 01:21:12 AM: If the Stryper is anything similar to NMHTP, I'll be happy.

The 16th will be a good music day- Stryper, Saxon and CIIC.
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Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2015, 05:05:04 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 06, 2015, 01:21:12 AM
If the Stryper is anything similar to NMHTP, I'll be happy.

The 16th will be a good music day- Stryper, Saxon and CIIC.

Absolutely to all of this mate.

That's not good regarding the Ryche solos.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 10:54:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 06, 2015, 05:05:04 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 06, 2015, 01:21:12 AM
If the Stryper is anything similar to NMHTP, I'll be happy.

The 16th will be a good music day- Stryper, Saxon and CIIC.

Absolutely to all of this mate.

That's not good regarding the Ryche solos.

I do know what you mean regarding the solos. Most of them are fine but some do sound a bit stilted, as though they are trying to do a QR style solo rather than it be natural. Nothing that ruined my enjoyment but they stood out.

I really like the album but I have done a cd for the car with several of the tracks from the st on the end and I find myself preferring the st tracks. There's more variety in sounds and pace. Still, the new one is light years ahead of anything from after Promised Land, maybe even since Empire up to the st.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 06, 2015, 12:22:06 PM: I'm just glad there is minor nit picking over the new Queensryche songs and that overall, everyone is enjoying it.

It could be much worse. We could be upset over the hunk of junk "The Stranger" being the newest Queensryche.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 12:31:36 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 06, 2015, 12:22:06 PM
I'm just glad there is minor nit picking over the new Queensryche songs and that overall, everyone is enjoying it.

It could be much worse. We could be upset over the hunk of junk "The Stranger" being the newest Queensryche.

True jay. It's pretty rare for an album to get such all round love as this is.
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2015, 02:53:31 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 10:54:00 AM

I really like the album but I have done a cd for the car with several of the tracks from the st on the end and I find myself preferring the st tracks. There's more variety in sounds and pace. Still, the new one is light years ahead of anything from after Promised Land, maybe even since Empire up to the st.

Funny you say that about the s/t. I had my first (and only so far) listen to the new album, and I felt like I immediately needed to hear the s/t.

Holy hell does Todd sound like Geoff! If I just awoke from a 20 year coma, I seriously would've had no idea it was a different singer. Seriously.

And regarding the solos, only once did I feel the solo-er tripped over himself, but I also remember one of them was shredtastic. But overall, I didn't have a problem. They even recreated the dual solos like the did in the past and I thought for the most part they sounded pretty good.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 03:34:22 PM: The only part of the album that doesn't do it for me is the beginning of Selfish lives. It sounds a bit like what Tates crew would do. QR still do it better and it picks up after the opening.
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2015, 03:45:48 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 03:34:22 PM
The only part of the album that doesn't do it for me is the beginning of Selfish lives. It sounds a bit like what Tates crew would do. QR still do it better and it picks up after the opening.

It's fine. Aren't there a few of those spoken moments on the album? Seems like a Queensryche-ish thing to do.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 04:01:32 PM: Yeah, they've always been there. Tates latest effort is talking all the way through, except for the song some other guy sings.
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2015, 04:09:21 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 04:01:32 PM
Yeah, they've always been there. Tates latest effort is talking all the way through, except for the song some other guy sings.

I wouldn't know!

:neverusethis:
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Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2015, 04:13:43 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 04:01:32 PM
Yeah, they've always been there. Tates latest effort is talking all the way through, except for the song some other guy sings.

I thought I noticed a different voice in there somewhere in my first and last listen of that album.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 06, 2015, 04:17:22 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 03:34:22 PM
The only part of the album that doesn't do it for me is the beginning of Selfish lives. It sounds a bit like what Tates crew would do. QR still do it better and it picks up after the opening.

That was likely what annoyed me about my first listen to Selfish Lives but after a while I thought that song was good - still at the weak end though.

As far as the solos go , much of it would only be picked up on by nitpicking musos :lol But to me it's even clearer on this album than the last that part of the secret sauce of classic Queensryche ain't there. Everything else though I'm on board with and obviously I wouldn't be rating things 90%+ if it was a huge issue. Of course some of the solos are quite good too .
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Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2015, 04:21:05 PM: I'll definitely give my point of view on the solos too next week when I hopefully find this cd instore. Looking forward to hearing them really.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 06, 2015, 05:05:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2015, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 04:01:32 PM
Yeah, they've always been there. Tates latest effort is talking all the way through, except for the song some other guy sings.

I wouldn't know!

:neverusethis:

Me either... there's too much GREAT music out there to listen to and discover. Hell, I don't even wanna spend my time on good/average music. I'm sure as shit not going to waste my time on tripe.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 07, 2015, 03:26:30 AM: I'm the same, all these bands that are past their use by date.
By that I mean they've released classics in the past and no matter how great the 'new' one is, it's nowhere near their best works.
Many bands I do not bother buying new material anymore, as I already have enough on my shelf that is better.
I can rattle off, Queensryche, Rush, Megadeth, Metallica and a dozen more.
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Post by: TAC on October 07, 2015, 04:32:16 PM: Looks like the new Saxon has been pushed back 2 weeks.
https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-premier-queen-of-hearts-lyric-video-new-release-date-set-for-battering-ram-album

Gaz, you haven't given up on Saxon, have you? Their last half dozen albums have been spectacular!

I predict that Queen Of Hearts will be the worst song on the new album. Yikes.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 07, 2015, 04:44:45 PM: I am off to see KISS and The Dead Daisies (J. Pearl, Mendoza, Tichy etc...) tonight with my dear sister , who is my regular concert companion. Brainwashing siblings comes in handy later in life :metal

I am not expecting much as Stanley's voice seems shot but it'll be cool for one last time. It's as much about just being there and seeing the crowd - the fact that they're bringing out their biggest show ever in terms of pyro/spider stage won't hurt either. As usual it will be a spectacle at the very least,.

Packing up the house I found a couple of old KISS items I somehow hung onto .................going to use my KISS comb (must be 35 years old) to get my hair out of the way so I can get that cool bandana on.....not :lol

(https://s24.postimg.org/8dfx02405/Picture_32.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on October 07, 2015, 04:58:45 PM: Awesome Brent. (The concert, not the bandana ;D)
The setlist looks pretty good. Heavy on the Creatures stuff.
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Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2015, 08:55:52 PM: Interesting to hear what you think of The Dead Daisies too.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 08, 2015, 12:02:34 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 07, 2015, 04:32:16 PM
Looks like the new Saxon has been pushed back 2 weeks.
https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-premier-queen-of-hearts-lyric-video-new-release-date-set-for-battering-ram-album

Gaz, you haven't given up on Saxon, have you? Their last half dozen albums have been spectacular!

I predict that Queen Of Hearts will be the worst song on the new album. Yikes.

Actually never been a Saxon fan at all.
Saw the live at Bloodstock 2005 and were pretty good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2015, 12:22:02 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 07, 2015, 04:32:16 PM
Looks like the new Saxon has been pushed back 2 weeks.
https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-premier-queen-of-hearts-lyric-video-new-release-date-set-for-battering-ram-album

Gaz, you haven't given up on Saxon, have you? Their last half dozen albums have been spectacular!

I predict that Queen Of Hearts will be the worst song on the new album. Yikes.

Tim, you didn't like Queen of Hearts? I really like it
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Post by: Lowdz on October 08, 2015, 01:07:32 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 07, 2015, 04:58:45 PM
Awesome Brent. (The concert, not the bandana ;D)
The setlist looks pretty good. Heavy on the Creatures stuff.

Cool. I'd given up on KISS changing up the setlist. Don't think I'd want to hear
Paul attempt I Still Love You these days though.
When it comes to Creatures, side one is > side two. ILiL is very overrated.
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Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2015, 05:46:45 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 08, 2015, 12:22:02 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 07, 2015, 04:32:16 PM
Looks like the new Saxon has been pushed back 2 weeks.
https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-premier-queen-of-hearts-lyric-video-new-release-date-set-for-battering-ram-album

Gaz, you haven't given up on Saxon, have you? Their last half dozen albums have been spectacular!

I predict that Queen Of Hearts will be the worst song on the new album. Yikes.

Tim, you didn't like Queen of Hearts? I really like it

Yeah, what's up? Just listened to it and I thought it was stellar. Great atmosphere and love the riffing. Looking forward to this album.
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2015, 06:43:20 AM: The riff was awesome, but I thought the song was pretty weak. That's OK. I am so stoked for this album. The title track is awesome!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2015, 08:10:19 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 08, 2015, 06:43:20 AM
The riff was awesome, but I thought the song was pretty weak. That's OK. I am so stoked for this album. The title track is awesome!

Try listening to it a few more times. I think both this song and the title track are awesome.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 08, 2015, 08:48:03 AM: Just back from KISS..........it's very late and I can't do much in the short term (we are without power for much of the the next 12-18 hrs) but I will get some pics and video up soonish.

Really fun gig and as per usual the Melbourne KISS Army came out in force (about 10,000 and the same tomorrow night) and KISS responded. Aside from Paul's vocals , which were scratchy (but not quite as bad as I feared) it was an almost perfect night.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 08, 2015, 10:22:24 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 08, 2015, 08:48:03 AM
Just back from KISS..........it's very late and I can't do much in the short term (we are without power for much of the the next 12-18 hrs) but I will get some pics and video up soonish.

Really fun gig and as per usual the Melbourne KISS Army came out in force (about 10,000 and the same tomorrow night) and KISS responded. Aside from Paul's vocals , which were scratchy (but not quite as bad as I feared) it was an almost perfect night.

Glad you had a great time.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2015, 12:30:19 PM: Sounds like a good night!
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2015, 03:22:45 PM: Awesome!
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Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2015, 03:52:07 PM: Good stuff.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 08, 2015, 10:11:44 PM: I will hopefully have a chance to listen to the bonus Queensryche track Espiritu Muerto from the Jap edition tonight - will report back. Unfortunately the other two bonus tracks only come with the deluxe vinyl edition :(

EDIT : Actually just caught a listen now and yes...........worth having. Interesting track that will need a few listens to sink in but i like it on first listen.

If anyone has ponied up for the regular version and doesn't want to buy the jap version too (or the extra track online) , then PM me ;)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2015, 03:31:20 AM: So...............KISS last night. Like I said earlier - great turnout and I enjoy the atmosphere and the camaraderie as much as the gig itself. There wasn't as much effort put into the outfits etc...as I have seen in the past. Pity I didn't have my camera handy for the two smoking hot chicks in makeup that spent most of the lead up doing photos for people. I took a snap of a couple of ugly dudes in front of us for you instead :lol

(https://s18.postimg.org/y8epjvdpl/IMG_6593.jpg)

Nice crowd in at Rod Laver Arena (centre court for the Australian Open tennis) and the same sold out for a 2nd gig tonight. Given that bands like Deep Purple and Def Leppard need to bring out big support acts to have a chance to sell out one night (Deep Purple brought Journey , Def Leppard brought Cheap Trick last time, Live for the upcoming gig) it's a big deal for them to sell out two nights at this stage of their career.

(https://s13.postimg.org/im84erdyb/IMG_6588.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/im84erdyb/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/90ejygmsj/IMG_6589.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/90ejygmsj/)

There was even some cookie monster music - my sister after the show with Cookie Monster playing I Was Made For Loving You on the bagpipes

(https://s2.postimg.org/v4ng8dzvt/IMG_6628.jpg)

Set list here

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/kiss/2015/rod-laver-arena-melbourne-australia-1bf41120.html

If anyone wants to see a snippet of video for any of the bigger name songs then I likely have some (just ask) but here's the opener. Unfortunately the video quality has dropped dramatically during conversion to flv - mine is crystal clear on my PC but not on Youtube :-\

Opening + Detroit Rock City https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKLEf2cWJ_I&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 09, 2015, 04:08:45 AM: Solid set list!
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:15:16 AM: Great photos Brent. Love the Cookie Monster.

Quote from: bl5150 on October 08, 2015, 10:11:44 PM
I will hopefully have a chance to listen to the bonus Queensryche track Espiritu Muerto from the Jap edition tonight - will report back. Unfortunately the other two bonus tracks only come with the deluxe vinyl edition :(

EDIT : Actually just caught a listen now and yes...........worth having. Interesting track that will need a few listens to sink in but i like it on first listen.

If anyone has ponied up for the regular version and doesn't want to buy the jap version too (or the extra track online) , then PM me ;)

Isn't that the bonus track on the regular deluxe edition?
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:22:56 AM: New Voodoo Circle on November 27

(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full_node/public/field/image/voodoocircle-whiskeyfingers.jpg?itok=y-5E-xTx)

The last one was really good, but I hope they turn down the Whitesnake rip offs a bit this time.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2015, 05:26:12 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:15:16 AM

Isn't that the bonus track on the regular deluxe edition?

I have read different reports but to the best of my knowledge that track is only on Jap (and maybe a UK/Euro digipak) - the full 3 bonus tracks only on LP/Boxset.

Century Media doesn't even have a deluxe CD listed on their US website
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:29:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 09, 2015, 05:26:12 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:15:16 AM

Isn't that the bonus track on the regular deluxe edition?

I have read different reports but to the best of my knowledge that track is only on Jap (and maybe a UK/Euro digipak) - the full 3 bonus tracks only on LP/Boxset.

Century Media doesn't even have a deluxe CD listed on their US website

I'm just going by JB's website as they have the deluxe with that track. Hopefully I find out tomorrow when I go looking.

Doesn't look like I'll be finding the WASP instore either. Looks like back to online purchasing, might go amazon.uk, they are okay. Not many around for us.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 05:33:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:22:56 AM
New Voodoo Circle on November 27

(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full_node/public/field/image/voodoocircle-whiskeyfingers.jpg?itok=y-5E-xTx)

The last one was really good, but I hope they turn down the Whitesnake rip offs a bit this time.

I think I recall checking out their first album, and really liking the music, then the vocals completely killing it.

I'm always up for Whitesnake rip-offs, it's just a shame so few can do it well!
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:39:30 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 05:33:01 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:22:56 AM
New Voodoo Circle on November 27

(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full_node/public/field/image/voodoocircle-whiskeyfingers.jpg?itok=y-5E-xTx)

The last one was really good, but I hope they turn down the Whitesnake rip offs a bit this time.

I think I recall checking out their first album, and really liking the music, then the vocals completely killing it.

I'm always up for Whitesnake rip-offs, it's just a shame so few can do it well!

Wow, David Readman is awesome IMO.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2015, 05:44:53 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:29:08 AM

I'm just going by JB's website as they have the deluxe with that track.

Fair enough - maybe we are getting that Euro version as a deluxe
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:45:51 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 09, 2015, 05:44:53 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:29:08 AM

I'm just going by JB's website as they have the deluxe with that track.

Fair enough - maybe we are getting that Euro version as a deluxe

Either way. I just wanna get a copy tomorrow.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 05:50:38 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:39:30 AM
Wow, David Readman is awesome IMO.

I distinctly remember the vocals were an instant disappointment to me, and the sole reason I gave up on it, but I'm checking it out on Spotify again, and they're better than I remember. Maybe I didn't give this one enough of a chance. :tup
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:51:50 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 05:50:38 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:39:30 AM
Wow, David Readman is awesome IMO.

I distinctly remember the vocals were an instant disappointment to me, and the sole reason I gave up on it, but I'm checking it out on Spotify again, and they're better than I remember. Maybe I didn't give this one enough of a chance. :tup

The last one, More Than One Way Home I think it's called was really quite good. I think you might like that one more.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 05:53:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:51:50 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 05:50:38 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:39:30 AM
Wow, David Readman is awesome IMO.

I distinctly remember the vocals were an instant disappointment to me, and the sole reason I gave up on it, but I'm checking it out on Spotify again, and they're better than I remember. Maybe I didn't give this one enough of a chance. :tup

The last one, More Than One Way Home I think it's called was really quite good. I think you might like that one more.

Checking it out now. Digging the 1987 Whitesnake-y sound of this first track. The one I listened to a while back was actually Broken Heart Syndrome.
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 06:08:17 AM: That was a pretty good one too.

There's a lot more of those Whitesnake 1987 things throughout the album. Some are so bloody blatant it's not funny. There's one song on there that is basically Is This Love. The whole damn thing.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 06:21:54 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 06:08:17 AM
That was a pretty good one too.

There's a lot more of those Whitesnake 1987 things throughout the album. Some are so bloody blatant it's not funny. There's one song on there that is basically Is This Love. The whole damn thing.

:lol I'm more than ok with this. From a two second skip, it's gotta be More Than One Way Home. No hiding it.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 09, 2015, 06:32:09 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 05:50:38 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:39:30 AM
Wow, David Readman is awesome IMO.

I distinctly remember the vocals were an instant disappointment to me, and the sole reason I gave up on it, but I'm checking it out on Spotify again, and they're better than I remember. Maybe I didn't give this one enough of a chance. :tup

Time to trade your ears in blob - david Readman is awesome.
I found the last album enjoyable until they directly ripoff riffs, then I lose interest. As long as they stick to "in the style of white snake" it's ok. I remember a couple of times they overstepped the line.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 06:41:16 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 09, 2015, 06:32:09 AM
Time to trade your ears in blob - david Readman is awesome.

It's ok, the problem appears to have correct itself.
The singing on Heart of Bablyon is so Coverdale. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2015, 07:57:57 AM: You wanted the best..........................

but you're getting the new Chris Holmes video :neverusethis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah6T3CTrvuY
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Post by: Lowdz on October 09, 2015, 09:11:35 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2015, 06:41:16 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 09, 2015, 06:32:09 AM
Time to trade your ears in blob - david Readman is awesome.

It's ok, the problem appears to have correct itself.
The singing on Heart of Bablyon is so Coverdale. :lol

Good to hear :biggrin:
I think he was probably under orders. He doesn't sing like a Coverdale clone usually.
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2015, 02:09:57 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 09, 2015, 03:31:20 AM
So...............KISS last night.

Show is on Dime, Brent!
https://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=542331

Quote from: bl5150 on October 09, 2015, 03:31:20 AM
If anyone wants to see a snippet of video for any of the bigger name songs then I likely have some (just ask) but here's the opener. Unfortunately the video quality has dropped dramatically during conversion to flv - mine is crystal clear on my PC but not on Youtube :-\

Opening + Detroit Rock City https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKLEf2cWJ_I&feature=youtu.be

Awesome video!

I must say that it's painful to watch Paul and (especially) Gene. And I love Paul!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 09, 2015, 03:26:25 PM: I made it to the one minute mark on the Chris Holmes video
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2015, 03:35:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 09, 2015, 03:26:25 PM
I made it to the one minute mark on the Chris Holmes video
It's better than Scream from WASP!
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 04:45:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 09, 2015, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 09, 2015, 03:26:25 PM
I made it to the one minute mark on the Chris Holmes video
It's better than Scream from WASP!

(https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/cce818891e697386353f28c59c1e1472/11090%20-%20Raw%20autoplay_gif%20gif%20sunglasses%20the_rock%20wwf.gif)
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2015, 04:52:19 PM: I knew as soon as Kade woke up that that was coming! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 04:56:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 09, 2015, 04:52:19 PM
I knew as soon as Kade woke up that that was coming! :lol

Well you asked for it bub haha.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 09, 2015, 06:01:59 PM: That was a weird conversation. But I liked it
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 06:41:03 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 09, 2015, 06:01:59 PM
That was a weird conversation. But I liked it

Well done, you actually had me check both thread.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2015, 06:45:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 09, 2015, 02:09:57 PM

I must say that it's painful to watch Paul and (especially) Gene. And I love Paul!

Paul sounds pretty bad there but his voice was on and off all night - and the opener was his worst song.

I thought Gene was fantastic actually - singing the best I have ever heard and for guys around 60 wearing all that stuff + platforms etc....I was pretty happy with how they moved. Pretty amazing actually.

The stage show - well they probably used more effects and pyro than any other artist will use combined for the next 2 years :lol Value for money is amazing in that regard. It would be much more expensive to go see the fairly stripped back AC/DC show........ I think everyone knew that Paul ain't what he used to be but on the whole I was very happy.

One thing I didn't mention was the sound. Fucking amazing - you heard how clear it sounded recorded on a tiny mic in a Canon digital camera. Everything was perfect (volume/clarity) and the songs sounded heavier than I've heard many of them before. If I had recorded video at the last DT gig (they had meathead security all over anyone who tried even a photo) you would've heard just random noise , which is about all I heard for the night.

Possibly the only thing that bugs me a bit about KISS these days (allowing for Paul's vocals) is Tommy's guitar playing. He's like Ace on a really bad day............and that's pretty average :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 10, 2015, 04:30:27 PM: I guess I'm not into Gene's schtick. I'm glad he sounded good.

It is amazing that they are still putting on great shows.

My first Kiss show was in '85 and Tommy Thayer was playing in the opening band!

I actually read Paul's book a few months ago and thought it was great.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 11, 2015, 03:35:55 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 10, 2015, 04:30:27 PM

My first Kiss show was in '85 and Tommy Thayer was playing in the opening band!

Black N Blue??

I'm in the process of unearthing all sorts of stuff that I had forgotten about as we pack up house. Here's one little lot -speaking of old gigs. I have been terrible at keeping old tickets etc.... but there's a few in amongst this lot.

(https://s15.postimg.org/w1d9s4ri3/IMG_1945.jpg)

We have:

- KISS convention pass from the "Kiss My Ass" tour
- KISS badge from the early 80's
-ZZ top 2000 (fucking boring gig)
- KISS 2001 Farewell Tour (Heaven supporting)..............still going
- KISS 1997 Alive Worldwide Tour
- Sammy Hagar 1998 w/ Kings of the Sun
- Van Halen neck chain
- Talisman Sweden Rock backstage pass (from JSS himself)
- extremely rare mint Van Halen 1978 backstage pass Longbeach Arena
- and Rolling Stones/Van Halen backstage pass from the gig that had the famous Diver Down album photo

(https://www.themightyvanhalen.net/wp-content/uploads/1981-tangerine-bowl.jpg?w=82&h=82)
(https://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/texxas_6.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2015, 04:11:35 AM: Cool shit Brent, you are the memorabilia king.

New killer CIIC song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU-RPLRZOJQ
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 11, 2015, 04:17:08 AM: You're easy to please. :lol I don't know what melody he was trying to sing in that prechorus-y bit, but it sounded awful.
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Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2015, 04:19:10 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 11, 2015, 04:17:08 AM
You're easy to please. :lol

Not really, not as much as I use to. CIIC have always just been a solid, reliable band. Followed them since the first album and just like what they do.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 11, 2015, 05:25:02 AM: CIIC is awesome. Great song and love the bands sound. One of the most reliable bands in rock and metal.

Lots of cool stuff Brent!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 11, 2015, 05:56:45 AM: Some more cool stuff to come in the next few days..........I have of course posted heaps of other stuff over the past few years but some of this is the rarest of the rare. I won't be mucking around with the posters (around 100 vintage Van Halen and KISS posters all in tubes and/or block mounted) but there's some other cool stuff anyway. This is all stuff I had stored away that I am photographing before it goes back away for another 10 years :lol

Here's some picks

(https://s1.postimg.org/4i5s0cwe7/IMG_1951_1.jpg)

(https://s27.postimg.org/bunpt492r/IMG_1950.jpg)

The images of the same picks , but with 3 & 5 flipped.

From left to right:

1&2 : Rick Nielsen picks from a Cheap Trick club gig - first one I caught , second one landed in my bourbon :lol I was front row with my drink on the front of the stage. Those were the days.

3 : EVH pick from the 1984 tour - mint

4: I took a screamer on some poor guy's head to catch that one between my fingers at the Flying In A Blue Dream gig.

5: Talisman pick from the legendary (to me anyway) Marcel Jacob from the debut Talisman era...early 90's. Got this from JSS and treasure it after Marcel's passing even more. Back in the 90's I felt like I was the only person in Australia who knew who Talisman were, but they seem to have a few more followers these days.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 11, 2015, 06:03:11 AM: I was 3rd row center on the VH, F.U.C.K tour. Dead middle between the V and the H. Eddie threw his pick and 6 guys all went for it. We all coconuted each other. When we came to, no one could find the pic. :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2015, 09:15:37 AM: Awesome picks!

I have a bunch. I should be able post a pic tomorrow!
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2015, 04:22:50 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 11, 2015, 05:56:45 AM

1&2 : Rick Nielsen picks from a Cheap Trick club gig - first one I caught , second one landed in my bourbon :lol I was front row with my drink on the front of the stage. Those were the days.

Brent, what year was that?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 11, 2015, 04:29:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 11, 2015, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 11, 2015, 05:56:45 AM

1&2 : Rick Nielsen picks from a Cheap Trick club gig - first one I caught , second one landed in my bourbon :lol I was front row with my drink on the front of the stage. Those were the days.

Brent, what year was that?

I believe it was 1988 - Lap of Luxury tour. They had a #1 hit here with The Flame and they didn't play it :lol

EDIT........that would make me 14 which seems a bit young for that venue (and the bourbon :neverusethis:) but I have the shirt :lol Not sure what I was up to there.
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2015, 04:37:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 11, 2015, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 11, 2015, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 11, 2015, 05:56:45 AM

1&2 : Rick Nielsen picks from a Cheap Trick club gig - first one I caught , second one landed in my bourbon :lol I was front row with my drink on the front of the stage. Those were the days.

Brent, what year was that?

I believe it was 1988 - Lap of Luxury tour. They had a #1 hit here with The Flame and they didn't play it :lol
I saw them on that tour in a theater in Providence. House Of Lords opened.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 11, 2015, 04:41:20 PM: Saw Cheap Trick 8 times. First time in 1983. Next Position Please tour. I was 15.
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2015, 05:04:35 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on October 11, 2015, 04:41:20 PM
Saw Cheap Trick 8 times. First time in 1983. Next Position Please tour. I was 15.
Wow Joe, that's awesome! I was never really into them.
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2015, 11:10:07 AM: OK I have some guitar picks too. Here are a half dozen.

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/033_zps50vbzzjb.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/033_zps50vbzzjb.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/034_zps5qwe87dw.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/034_zps5qwe87dw.jpg.html)

Top Left: Jeff Hanneman (The Channel, Boston 9/12/90)
Top Center: John Regan (Centrum, Worcester 7/17/88)
Top Right: Yngwie Malmsteen (Campus Club, Providence 4/30/92)
Bottom Left: Paul Stanley (West Hartford Ballroom, Hartford 2/23/89)
Bottom Center: Jason Newsted (Centrum, Worcester 3/16/89)
Bottom Right: John Petrucci (Axis, Boston 10/7/92)

The second pic just has Jeff Hanneman's and John Regan's picks reversed.

John Regan's pick is not the only pick I brought home from the Iron Maiden/Frehley's Comet show. I also had Adrian Smith's pick, but I cannot for the life of me find it. On the front was Adrian's sig and on the back it said 7th Pick Of The 7th Tour.

JP's is generic (not sigged). I have a number of generic picks, including Gary Moore, Ace Frehley. I also have a couple of Warrant pics from the Paul Stanley show. They're both logo'd. Now that I think of it, I should've included one of them for you guys.

I also have these:

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/035_zpscczxtln5.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/035_zpscczxtln5.jpg.html)

Alice Cooper Boston Garden 11/17/87
Metallica Worcester Centrum 3/16/89

I've posted the backstage shots from the Alice show before of pics with Kane Roberts, Paul Taylor, and Ken Mary. Unfortunately Alice was nowhere to be found.
On the Metallica on, you'll notice the slash through it the big E. Apparently, it was a Before Show Only pass. :facepalm: My program director never mentioned that to me! :censored
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 12, 2015, 02:24:14 PM: cool stuff!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2015, 05:16:22 AM: Nice stuff Tim.

Another VH item to share.

This shirt is one that was issued to the sound/lighting techs (Showco) on the 1980 Invasion tour. Mint condition. I have seen these go on Ebay for up to $1000.

(https://s17.postimg.org/klfelv427/IMG_1914.jpg)

(https://s27.postimg.org/5ww6sgisz/IMG_1915.jpg)

I believe Showco were also famous for the big Zep shows - Chad may be able to elaborate.
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Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2015, 05:20:47 AM: I got a set of those Yngwie Malsmteen picks too. :metal

I got some WASP ones too. :yarr
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2015, 05:23:32 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 13, 2015, 05:20:47 AM
I got a set of those Yngwie Malsmteen picks too. :metal

I got some WASP ones too. :yarr

Did you catch those at gigs Kade or are they merch? Even though the VH pick is probably the most valuable of mine I think the Talisman/Marcel jacob one is my fave - and possibly the rarest actually.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2015, 05:29:36 AM: Yeah Yngwie picks aren't very rare. He spends more time throwing them than using them.
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Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2015, 05:57:03 AM: Nah, they were both merch, unfortunately. Still cool.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2015, 06:04:12 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 13, 2015, 05:57:03 AM
Nah, they were both merch, unfortunately. Still cool.

Fer sure. Neither of the faves I am talking about above (VH/Talisman) were from gigs that I attended. I can only wish that Talisman or VH (1984) toured here >:( I may not have made the VH anyway I suppose , seeing as I was 10 yo :lol

I did catch the JSS solo tour though (saw him twice and caught up for quite a while). I was saying to my sister at the KISS gig the other night , I can't believe that we shot the shit with JSS and didn't get a photo . :facepalm:
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Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2015, 06:16:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2015, 06:04:12 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 13, 2015, 05:57:03 AM
Nah, they were both merch, unfortunately. Still cool.

Fer sure. Neither of the faves I am talking about above (VH/Talisman) were from gigs that I attended. I can only wish that Talisman or VH (1984) toured here >:( I may not have made the VH anyway I suppose , seeing as I was 10 yo :lol

I did catch the JSS solo tour though (saw him twice and caught up for quite a while). I was saying to my sister at the KISS gig the other night , I can't believe that we shot the shit with JSS and didn't get a photo . :facepalm:

Yeah I had a good chat with him at the Queen convention a few years ago, and he stole my beer during a Halloween gig in Wigan , in a pub. The whole band wore KISS makeup until they sweated it off. Although being 5 foot nothing Gary Schmitt did a great Gene.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2015, 06:26:41 AM: Nice :) Who is Gary Schmitt? Gary Schutt after a few beers ? :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2015, 06:29:28 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2015, 06:26:41 AM
Nice :) Who is Gary Schmitt? Gary Schutt after a few beers ? :lol

Stupid predictive keyboard.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 12:07:56 AM: I see Graham Bonnet is doing a pub/club tour of Australia and NZ . That surprises me as tbh I think he would struggle to fill a pub gig out here. Maybe I am underestimating the (large) metal community in Melbourne and the other states but I can't see the market for him.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 14, 2015, 12:15:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 12:07:56 AM
I see Graham Bonnet is doing a pub/club tour of Australia and NZ . That surprises me as tbh I think he would struggle to fill a pub gig out here. Maybe I am underestimating the (large) metal community in Melbourne and the other states but I can't see the market for him.

For pubs/clubs he might be ok, although I don't know how tours of smaller venues here are even worth it for overseas acts. Are you going to go?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 12:18:13 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 14, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 12:07:56 AM
I see Graham Bonnet is doing a pub/club tour of Australia and NZ . That surprises me as tbh I think he would struggle to fill a pub gig out here. Maybe I am underestimating the (large) metal community in Melbourne and the other states but I can't see the market for him.

For pubs/clubs he might be ok, although I don't know how tours of smaller venues here are even worth it for overseas acts. Are you going to go?

Probably not - I like him in certain songs but I have often struggled with his voice. He's getting on too so I would probably see if I could find some recent footage if I was thinking about it.

The only stuff of his that I have ever played semi-regularly is Alcatrazz.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 14, 2015, 12:22:19 AM: I've heard his Rainbow stuff, and I think that's about it. No idea how his voice has held up.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 12:57:45 AM: Uncovered another old item today. These Van Halen 3 tins were signed by the band at a meet and greet/signing in Melbourne during the tour. Unfortunately they would only allow VH 3 stuff >:( but I suppose I have enough signed stuff from other eras. I might upload the photo of me and EVH shaking hands across the signing table if I can find it .......no cameras were allowed but the venue guy took it and I hassled him for weeks until he handed it over :lol

Now Michael Anthony - he knows his stuff. He wanted to just note (top left) that Brent rocks :hat

(https://s30.postimg.org/cj9ugi2ch/IMG_1921.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 14, 2015, 01:03:24 AM: VH3 tins? Were those to store away copies of the album to never be seen or heard again? :lol

Find that photo, man! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 01:10:49 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 14, 2015, 01:03:24 AM
VH3 tins? Were those to store away copies of the album to never be seen or heard again? :lol

Find that photo, man! :metal

Yeah - drill a couple of holes and padlock them to make sure the CD never surfaces :lol The tin had some photo cards and a pick or two , so that's why I likely got them (as well as better for signing ). I assume the picks are still inside the tins.

I also made up a big frame (in storage) with a shirt , signed (regular CD) booklet along with the concert ticket and meet'n'greet entry pass. It pissed me off that it was all VH 3 related but it was still special to me as my first VH gig at the time after waiting 15+ years and so I made myself a souvenir. Despite the album it was a great gig too and the first time they had played DLR material in almost 15 years.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 14, 2015, 03:05:11 AM: New album from Kauan, sounds pretty good too.
https://www.stereogum.com/1837135/stream-kauan-sorni-nai-stereogum-premiere/mp3s/
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 03:10:17 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on October 14, 2015, 03:05:11 AM
New album from Kauan, sounds pretty good too.
https://www.stereogum.com/1837135/stream-kauan-sorni-nai-stereogum-premiere/mp3s/

never heard of 'em..............are you in the right thread Gaz? :)

I had a quick listen............not bad for that style which I assume is doom?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 03:18:17 AM: Another pic from the VH 3 tour I found - unfortunately this is before digital cameras (or before I had one) and wouldn't you know it ................I get the chance for a good shot and the film runs out.

Anyway - you can see the band on the left but Cherone has climbed up the stairs , swung over onto the balcony and is hanging off the side of Level 1 in the stands singing to us.

(https://s4.postimg.org/a7ex7ms7h/IMG_1943.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2015, 04:34:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 12:18:13 AM

The only stuff of his that I have ever played semi-regularly is Alcatrazz.
Michael Schenker's Assault Attack is a great album.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 04:40:01 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2015, 04:34:17 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 12:18:13 AM

The only stuff of his that I have ever played semi-regularly is Alcatrazz.
Michael Schenker's Assault Attack is a great album.

Yeah - strong album. For some reason I never really played that one as a full album - kept coming back to Samurai and (esp) Desert Song though. Desert Song would be one of my favourite Schenker toons.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2015, 04:49:08 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2015, 04:34:17 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 12:18:13 AM

The only stuff of his that I have ever played semi-regularly is Alcatrazz.
Michael Schenker's Assault Attack is a great album.

Great call. He's not a great favourite of mine but Rainbow's Down To Earth is a good album (but not a patch on what came before), the first Alcatrazz is legendary and Assault Aatack another great album. Always loved his Night Games single too.
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2015, 05:30:06 AM: Still gotta check that MSG album.

New Vinnie Moore, October 23;

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/vinniemooreaerialcd.jpg)

Last one was decent.
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Post by: Bolsters on October 14, 2015, 05:33:00 AM: Lousy artwork though. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 05:34:13 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 14, 2015, 01:03:24 AM

Find that photo, man! :metal

Here you go Blob..........a photo of the great man - and Eddie's at the back there too :neverusethis:

Unfortunately my big scone caught all of the flash and I look like Dracula but nevertheless it's a treasured photo and something I thought I had lost until recently.

(https://s11.postimg.org/r5svs8u2b/IMG_1930.jpg)

I will certainly check out the Vinnie Moore . I haven't really taken a great deal of notice since Out of Nowhere.
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2015, 05:34:58 AM: Nice photo Brent.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 14, 2015, 05:50:01 AM: Nice photo, even if there is some dude in the way of EVH. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2015, 05:50:51 AM: I pledged for the Vinnie Moore. He may just be my favourite guitarist. Always wondered why he never put a prog metal band together. His style used to fit. He's gone a bit bluesier in recent years
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2015, 05:54:29 AM: I hope this new one has some more shred.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2015, 06:03:42 AM: As much as I love UFO, Vinnie is completely wasted there. The Vinnie Era is overall pretty weak. I had high hopes when I heard he joined. Their latest album isn't great, though it has the most shred from Vinnie that he's ever done in UFO.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2015, 09:13:25 AM: Great pic Brent. Glad you uncovered that treasure.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2015, 09:29:31 AM: So I just had a listen to WASP's Golgotha.

Damn, this is a pretty solid album. I haven't listened to anything new by them since 1989!
Some nice lead playing on this, whoever the guitarist is..

Two best songs IMO are Shotgun, which reminds me a ton of 80's WASP, and Slaves Of The New World Order.
Title track is pretty cool too.

I wasn't expecting to get this, and it may not be until Christmas, but I just might spring for it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 14, 2015, 11:30:23 AM: I will have to check out the new WASP. I just listened to Scream and thought it was just ok. But I'm hearing lots of good things about it.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2015, 11:39:11 AM: I don't think Scream is very good. But it's one of the worst songs on the album. Sample the two songs I referenced.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2015, 01:19:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2015, 09:29:31 AM
So I just had a listen to WASP's Golgotha.

Damn, this is a pretty solid album. I haven't listened to anything new by them since 1989!
Some nice lead playing on this, whoever the guitarist is..

Two best songs IMO are Shotgun, which reminds me a ton of 80's WASP, and Slaves Of The New World Order.
Title track is pretty cool too.

I wasn't expecting to get this, and it may not be until Christmas, but I just might spring for it.

It slipped under the radar a bit witht the other albums that came out around the same time. Solid album - Blackie sounds better then ever. I dont mind Scream at all - iy does sound like a whole bunch of other WASP songs but its fine.
And yes, the solos are great.
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2015, 09:59:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2015, 09:29:31 AM
So I just had a listen to WASP's Golgotha.

Damn, this is a pretty solid album. I haven't listened to anything new by them since 1989!
Some nice lead playing on this, whoever the guitarist is..

Two best songs IMO are Shotgun, which reminds me a ton of 80's WASP, and Slaves Of The New World Order.
Title track is pretty cool too.

I wasn't expecting to get this, and it may not be until Christmas, but I just might spring for it.

Can't get my hands on this and going to have to order in. Holding off listening until I get a copy. really looking forward to it and this is great to read.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 10:15:02 PM: Tim probably doesn't get the "heard it before" vibe that more regular WASP listeners might- having said that I rated it mid 80's anyway ,so it's a strong effort and much better than most of the post Crimson Idol releases.
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2015, 10:19:30 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 10:15:02 PM
Tim probably doesn't get the "heard it before" vibe that more regular WASP listeners might- having said that I rated it mid 80's anyway ,so it's a strong effort and much better than most of the post Crimson Idol releases.

Works for me.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 06:21:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 10:15:02 PM
Tim probably doesn't get the "heard it before" vibe that more regular WASP listeners might- having said that I rated it mid 80's anyway ,so it's a strong effort and much better than most of the post Crimson Idol releases.

Maybe. I mean how varied can WASP's albums actually be? Mid 80's would be a fairly strong rating, no? That equals out to an 8.5 for me, but I don't even thing I'd rate it that high. But I was pleasantly surprised.
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 06:37:02 AM: It always helps when you don't have expectations for something, perhaps that has something to do with it.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 15, 2015, 06:52:36 AM: New Def Leppard gets 95% at mr.com. Does that mean it's good or is it the usual mr rating? Has anyone heard it?
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 07:06:44 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 15, 2015, 06:52:36 AM
New Def Leppard gets 95% at mr.com. Does that mean it's good or is it the usual mr rating? Has anyone heard it?

I wonder why people would even still listen to Def Leppard.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 07:16:02 AM: (https://img.picturequotes.com/2/3/2166/what-you-talkin-bout-willis-quote-1.jpg)

Pyromania made my Top 10 of all time ...........I don't listen to my classics as often as I should but albums like that don't age for me. The early mail is that the new album is their best in some time ,so I will certainly check it out (with low expectations) and hope for a couple of really good tracks.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 07:27:40 AM: OK, let me rephrase that. Why would anyone listen to anything post Pyromania (other than the Hysteria B sides)?

Sounds like the same hype every time they release a new album, no? I have sampled a new track from time to time, but I get let down by it every time. I have an inner hope that a new album will; actually be good. I want to like them but how can I when they keep making shit music.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 07:32:49 AM: Fair enough - there is the odd good track on their recent albums but nothing much I tend to go for overall. There were a few tracks that didn't make Euphoria which I have and quite like. Adrenalize has a couple of tracks I like ,although one of them (Tear It Down) has a much better ,rawer original version.

And yeah...........the leftovers that made Retroactive were better than Hysteria in my book.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 07:36:58 AM: I still have my Hysteria 45's. I only bought them for the B Sides, which I loved. I remember being so disappointed with Hysteria. There was such a long wait after Pyromania.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 07:47:25 AM: Time to squeeze in a couple of new releases while I wait for roulette toons. What do we have here?...........new Saxon and Circle II Circle :hat
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 15, 2015, 07:55:22 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 07:27:40 AM
OK, let me rephrase that. Why would anyone listen to anything post ~~Pyromania (other than the Hysteria B sides)~~Hysteria?

Sounds like the same hype every time they release a new album, no? I have sampled a new track from time to time, but I get let down by it every time. I have an inner hope that a new album will; actually be good. I want to like them but how can I when they keep making shit music.

FTFM, cause I really liked Hysteria, severly overproduced yeah, but in a somehow good way. Everything after that left me cold, but I wanted to like them too. This time around I had the feeling from what I read that maybe they had delivered one last unexpected gem.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 08:06:13 AM: Here's the lead track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UgvND5W39U

It blows!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 08:10:26 AM: To be fair a lot of bands have lead singles that blow ,with a stronger album backing it up. This single is like a bad copy of Pour Some Sugar................but supposedly the album is quite varied. So I wouldn't read too much into this.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 08:16:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 08:10:26 AM
................but supposedly the album is quite varied.
Sure, some songs suck. Some blow. A few of them are shit. A couple are terrible...
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 15, 2015, 08:21:00 AM: Never liked Pour Some Sugar On Me, so a bad copy is bound to be worse. Seems like nobody has heard the album yet? Do I have to do it on my own?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 08:27:35 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 15, 2015, 08:21:00 AM
Never liked Pour Some Sugar On Me, so a bad copy is bound to be worse. Seems like nobody has heard the album yet? Do I have to do it on my own?

It's not due for release until the 30th ,so unless you have a review copy...............

Sometimes I can snag a review copy , so we'll see. Then I can clarify for TAC whether it blows or sucks.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 08:31:49 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 15, 2015, 08:21:00 AM
Do I have to do it on my own?
I wouldn't. Use the buddy system.

Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 08:27:35 AM
Sometimes I can snag a review copy , so we'll see. Then I can clarify for TAC whether it blows or sucks.
Thanks. Can't wait! ;D
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 15, 2015, 08:49:52 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 08:27:35 AM
It's not due for release until the 30th ,so unless you have a review copy...............

Sometimes I can snag a review copy , so we'll see. Then I can clarify for TAC whether it blows or sucks.

Ah, ok, didn't know that, on mr.com it read like it was out for some time.

Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 08:31:49 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 15, 2015, 08:21:00 AM
Do I have to do it on my own?
I wouldn't. Use the buddy system.

That's why I'm asking. If it's shit it wasn't my time that got wasted. :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 15, 2015, 11:35:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 07:47:25 AM
Time to squeeze in a couple of new releases while I wait for roulette toons. What do we have here?...........new Saxon and Circle II Circle :hat

Interested in hearing reviews!
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Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2015, 04:00:45 PM: It's a long time since I liked a Def Lep album- probably Euphoria, which wasn't great. I seem to like Adrenalize more than most but not much to get excited about since then. Don't think I've even listened to Sparkle Lounge.

Stryper, Saxon and Circle II Circle should be available on Amazon auto rip tomorrow.
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 04:12:59 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 15, 2015, 11:35:29 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 07:47:25 AM
Time to squeeze in a couple of new releases while I wait for roulette toons. What do we have here?...........new Saxon and Circle II Circle :hat

Interested in hearing reviews!

Indeed.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 04:20:31 PM: Paul, wasn't Saxon pushed back two weeks?
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Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2015, 04:28:38 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 04:20:31 PM
Paul, wasn't Saxon pushed back two weeks?

Oh, I think it was. Forgot about that.

Amazon is still saying 16th. Not like I haven't got plenty of new stuff to be going on with.
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 04:30:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 04:20:31 PM
Paul, wasn't Saxon pushed back two weeks?

That sucks.
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 05:07:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 04:20:31 PM
Paul, wasn't Saxon pushed back two weeks?

That sucks.

I can't find anything on this.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 05:16:14 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 05:07:54 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 04:20:31 PM
Paul, wasn't Saxon pushed back two weeks?

That sucks.

I can't find anything on this.

Nah..........still 16th Oct
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 05:21:07 PM: Not holding my breath hoping to get this or CIIC at JB tomorrow. :lol Stryper listed as the 23rd too now. Gotta bit the bullet and go online I guess.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 06:01:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 05:07:54 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 04:20:31 PM
Paul, wasn't Saxon pushed back two weeks?

That sucks.

I can't find anything on this.

Nah..........still 16th Oct

https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-premier-queen-of-hearts-lyric-video-new-release-date-set-for-battering-ram-album

https://www.amazon.com/Battering-Ram-Saxon/dp/B012FH9XV2/ref=sr_1_1_twi_aud_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1444953609&sr=1-1&keywords=Saxon+battering+ram

Both of these say the 30th. ???

There is this though! :metal
https://www.yahoo.com/music/get-a-taste-of-saxons-new-album-ahead-of-release-181000997.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 06:13:01 PM: That link says the 30th too, bugger.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 06:17:13 PM: I checked the official Facebook page before I replied and it says "tomorrow" :P
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 06:17:46 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 06:17:13 PM
I checked the official Facebook page before I replied and it says "tomorrow" :P
What's Facebook?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 06:19:11 PM: I thought I was the only person on the planet without Facebook - when I want to check info though it's often a good direct source of info rather than media.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 15, 2015, 06:22:35 PM: You old bastards.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 06:23:43 PM: Facebook sucks and blows , right Tim? ;D
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 06:25:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 06:19:11 PM
I thought I was the only person on the planet without Facebook -
You definitely are not! As I've said many times before: DTF IS my Facebook.

Quote from: kingshmegland on October 15, 2015, 06:22:35 PM
You old bastards.

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Post by: King Postwhore on October 15, 2015, 06:29:36 PM: (https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/6b9_zpsvmrpkisk.jpg) (https://s583.photobucket.com/user/kingshmegland/media/6b9_zpsvmrpkisk.jpg.html)
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 06:33:25 PM: (https://inourwordsblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/internet-memes-even-red-means-slow.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 06:36:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 06:33:25 PM
(https://inourwordsblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/internet-memes-even-red-means-slow.jpg)

reminds me of my missus' driving strategy
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 06:38:53 PM: Ummm.....guys.....umm........I don't have facebook either. :\
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 06:41:00 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
Ummm.....guys.....umm........I don't have facebook either. :\
:tup Liked!
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 06:42:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
Ummm.....guys.....umm........I don't have facebook either. :\
:tup Liked!

Right back at you bro. Should we try and start our own phenomenon? :justjen

I don't even have an iphone or smart phone whatever they are called.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 06:47:26 PM: Well I don't always agree with everyone on Saxon - to me they are a band that often delivers exactly what I am expecting and that sorta caps how high I can rate them. Solid metal will only get you so far and I generally feel that modern era Accept do the same job but manage to have a higher average quality plus a few standout tracks on each album that are at another level. I have little memory of Sacrifice but I am pretty sure I loved the title track and was a big "Meh" about the rest as it came across as all too samey.

To me this album is more in line with recent Accept output. It's consistent from beginning to end , it's heavy and melodic, has a few more progressive/complex moments and 3 or 4 standout tracks. It feels to me like an album that has a lot more thought in it than your average Saxon and it may well be my favourite Saxon album ever. Initial rating 87% which is matching or bettering the WASP..........and I like WASP much more than Saxon as a rule.

It'll be interesting to see if you guys agree.

Fave tracks: Queen of Hearts ,Hard and Fast, Top of the World, Kingdom of the Cross (a really nice atmospheric ballad about war dead..)
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 07:10:18 PM: That's interesting Brent. I find lots of parallels between current Accept and Saxon, chiefly that they are very consistent. Some would call that samey, but these bands are what they are. And it's amazing that Saxon are making as good of music as they ever have currently. their last half dozen albums have been excellent. You're not going to get any surprises.
They were always 2nd tier anyway back in the day, but I've always enjoyed them immensely.

I'm listening to the 5 song sampler now. Devil's Footprint is awesome. Liking Destroyer. In fact they're all great except for Queen Of Hearts. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 07:13:41 PM: That Queen of Hearts song was really great. Awesome to read that Brent, hopefully I can get my hands on a copy tomorrow.

Go back to Sacrifice I'd say. At first I was a bit 'meh' on it too, but went back later and really enjoyed it a lot more.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 07:16:25 PM: After hearing 6 of the ten songs ( I think it's 10), this could be better than Sacrifice. Call To Arms is freaking great too.
Amazing how quick they are turning out these albums it seems.
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 07:17:35 PM: IMO, everything since Lionheart has been quite stellar.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2015, 07:18:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 07:17:35 PM
IMO, everything since Lionheart has been quite stellar.
Hell yeah. Lionheart pulled me back in after ignoring them through the 90's.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 15, 2015, 09:01:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 06:42:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2015, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
Ummm.....guys.....umm........I don't have facebook either. :\
:tup Liked!

Right back at you bro. Should we try and start our own phenomenon? :justjen

I don't even have an iphone or smart phone whatever they are called.

As long as you arent buying the new Saxon or CIIC on cassette lol

And I've seen different release dates all over the place, but I'm showing up tommorow at HMV and hopefully Saxon, CIIC and Stryper will be there. Hopefully at least one of them will be, if not, it's amazon time.

Queen of Hearts is excellent. Not sure why you arent digging it Tim.
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2015, 10:38:42 PM: Yeah, I'm hopeful for one at least. And yeah, no more cassettes for me mate. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 10:55:09 PM: This Circle II Circle is very different to expectations and my rating is going to be quite different to what I've been seeing around the traps too..........more later.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 15, 2015, 11:21:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2015, 05:51:50 AM
The last one, More Than One Way Home I think it's called was really quite good. I think you might like that one more.

I just wanted to bring this back up to say this was a great recommendation. Been listening to this a ton the past few days and I'm really enjoying it. :tup I'm excited for the new album now.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 16, 2015, 02:08:59 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2015, 10:55:09 PM
This Circle II Circle is very different to expectations and my rating is going to be quite different to what I've been seeing around the traps too..........more later.

Okay..............I have listened to this album twice now. Let me summarise:

- fucking heavy
- fucking melodic
- fucking awesome
- close enough to album of the fucking year.

Now I don't say that lightly as Zak often doesn't hit the spot for me. He can be a bit of a monotone and his voice is a bit love/hate. But if you like his style I think you'll love this. It does seem to be getting mixed reviews (plenty of 6's and 7's around) but I dunno what they're smoking.

I would say that aside from the intro/closing track and some odd keyboard moments , much of the Savatage influence is fading. And to some extent that's good because , aside from Edge of Thorns , I struggled with quite a bit of the Zak era. And then a lot of the Circle II Circle has the same sort of plodding nature to it that I struggled with in Zak era Savatage.

This album is balls out metal for the most part and (from the stuff I have) Zak's heaviest - and possibly best - performance. In my opinion it has a very different sound to most C2C and even the production.........I put on some of the other C2C albums afterwards and they sounded pissweak.

I am not 100% sure of my rating but it'll be low- mid 90's and pushing Edge of Thorns for my favourite Zak related album ever. Also pushing (and most likely passing) Queensryche and one or two others for my favourite of the year so far.

Favourite tracks - basically everything except One More Day which is still a pretty decent track.

Saxon surprised me.............this one shocked me and my low-ish expectations.
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 05:48:45 AM: (https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2419/1849109365_569a41f236_z.jpg?zz=1)

Never expected to read that Brent. Can't fucking wait now. Christ, I hope JB has this. Jason is going to smile in his pants.
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:06:47 AM: Resurrection Kings EPK. Or Rated X v2.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RHEB0iFu7c
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:15:13 AM: Leaving this hear for pansies that don't like growls hahaha!! SOLUTION .45!! Fuck yes, been waiting for 5 years! Listen to the whole damn thing, I dare you. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KVqagPFeM
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2015, 07:21:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:15:13 AM
Leaving this hear for pansies that don't like growls hahaha!! SOLUTION .45!! Fuck yes, been waiting for 5 years! Listen to the whole damn thing, I dare you. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KVqagPFeM

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56610954.jpg)

... right after I finish listening to Zierler/ESC.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 16, 2015, 07:24:56 AM: I will if JJ will ;D
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Post by: TAC on October 16, 2015, 08:10:24 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:15:13 AM
Leaving this hear for pansies that don't like growls hahaha!! SOLUTION .45!! Fuck yes, been waiting for 5 years! Listen to the whole damn thing, I dare you. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KVqagPFeM
I can vouch that half of this song is awesome!
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2015, 09:02:03 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2015, 08:10:24 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:15:13 AM
Leaving this hear for pansies that don't like growls hahaha!! SOLUTION .45!! Fuck yes, been waiting for 5 years! Listen to the whole damn thing, I dare you. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KVqagPFeM
I can vouch that half of this song is awesome!

What he said. This level and quantity of growls still ain't my thing.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 16, 2015, 09:14:22 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 16, 2015, 09:02:03 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2015, 08:10:24 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:15:13 AM
Leaving this hear for pansies that don't like growls hahaha!! SOLUTION .45!! Fuck yes, been waiting for 5 years! Listen to the whole damn thing, I dare you. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KVqagPFeM
I can vouch that half of this song is awesome!

What he said. This level and quantity of growls still ain't my thing.

Growls are the rap of metal. Got about 40 seconds in and couldn't take anymore tuneless growling.
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 02:28:44 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 16, 2015, 09:02:03 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2015, 08:10:24 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:15:13 AM
Leaving this hear for pansies that don't like growls hahaha!! SOLUTION .45!! Fuck yes, been waiting for 5 years! Listen to the whole damn thing, I dare you. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KVqagPFeM
I can vouch that half of this song is awesome!

What he said. This level and quantity of growls still ain't my thing.

I respect this boys.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 16, 2015, 03:20:23 PM: Tuneless growling?
Hardly, trying doing it yourself and see how easy it is.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 16, 2015, 03:55:24 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on October 16, 2015, 03:20:23 PM
Tuneless growling?
Hardly, trying doing it yourself and see how easy it is.

Didn't say it was easy - I'd imagine it would hurt like hell with a bad technique. There's just no melody there which makes it boring to me as a lead voice. When used as a background vocal / call and response type thing I can handle it. As a lead vocal, no.
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Post by: TAC on October 16, 2015, 06:22:11 PM: Right. Since when does difficulty=enjoyable?

I can have a 5 Star chef use the greatest techniques on an onion, and it'll still taste like shit.

Yes, it's the TAC Onion Analogy! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:26:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2015, 06:22:11 PM
Right. Since when does difficulty=enjoyable?

I can have a 5 Star chef use the greatest techniques on an onion, and it'll still taste like shit.

Yes, it's the TAC Onion Analogy! :metal

Bro, onions are amazing.
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Post by: TAC on October 16, 2015, 06:32:03 PM: 3.2.1...

Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:26:21 PM
Bro, onions are amazing.

:lol

Everytime I bust out The Onion Analogy, I can always count on Wolfking to tell me how much he loves onions!
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:34:22 PM: I eat one a day, seriously. :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 16, 2015, 06:35:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2015, 06:34:22 PM
I eat one a day, seriously. :lol

Let me guess, a Bloomin' one?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 16, 2015, 07:14:40 PM: The Tony Abbott diet (one of our many ex-Prime Ministers)

(https://1v1d1e1lmiki1lgcvx32p49h8fe.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/tony-abbott-onions.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 16, 2015, 08:12:48 PM: Are you trying to eat a tomato and eat an onion by mistake like George?

That review by Brent has me pumped up big time for CIIC!! Brent knows what he is talking about.

Just got back from HMV. No luck with anything. Just a whole bunch of new pop and rap stuff.

Ordered Stryper and CIIC from amazon.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 16, 2015, 08:21:50 PM: I found the new CIIC in a local store today, though I was looking for the new Caligula's Horse, which they didn't have.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 16, 2015, 08:23:43 PM: I had a quick listen to that Circle II Circle album, and surprise surprise, I thought it was totally mediocre. :lol
I did only have one listen though.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 16, 2015, 09:28:25 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 16, 2015, 08:23:43 PM
I had a quick listen to that Circle II Circle album, and surprise surprise, I thought it was totally mediocre. :lol
I did only have one listen though.

Based on that I now upgrade my rating to 100% :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 16, 2015, 09:32:45 PM: :getoffmylawn:
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Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2015, 03:38:48 PM: Found both CIIC and Saxon in store yesterday! :metal :metal :metal

So fucking stoked, out at the moment so haven't had a listen though. Will be blasting them tonight. Can't believe JB had both, wicked.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 17, 2015, 03:42:04 PM: Yeah I saw CIIC in my local JB too.
But no Caligula's Horse, grabbing that from Utopia today though.
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Post by: TAC on October 17, 2015, 05:38:06 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 17, 2015, 03:38:48 PM
Found both CIIC and Saxon in store yesterday! :metal :metal :metal

So fucking stoked, out at the moment so haven't had a listen though. Will be blasting them tonight. Can't believe JB had both, wicked.

WTF? I still have to wait 2 weeks for the Saxon. :censored
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 17, 2015, 06:38:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 17, 2015, 03:38:48 PM
Found both CIIC and Saxon in store yesterday! :metal :metal :metal

So fucking stoked, out at the moment so haven't had a listen though. Will be blasting them tonight. Can't believe JB had both, wicked.

awesome dude! I had to order Stryper and CIIC with amazon. Paid for express shipping though.

Like Tim, we have to wait till the 30th for Saxon. That better be at HMV

Post feedback when you can :metal
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Post by: Zook on October 17, 2015, 06:41:03 PM: Do you think my girlfriend would get mad if I won an auction for Amanda Somerville's bra?
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 17, 2015, 06:47:52 PM: Quote from: Zook on October 17, 2015, 06:41:03 PM
Do you think my girlfriend would get mad if I won an auction for Amanda Somerville's bra?

Some things you just never disclose
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 17, 2015, 06:53:30 PM: Quote from: Zook on October 17, 2015, 06:41:03 PM
Do you think my girlfriend would get mad if I won an auction for Amanda Somerville's bra?

Only if you ask her to wear it, and start singing The Story Ain't Over.
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Post by: Zook on October 17, 2015, 07:07:46 PM: It's at $37 right now, and I think it's worth it considering she's including pictures of her wearing it.

I'm a sad sad man...
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Post by: gazinwales on October 17, 2015, 11:01:19 PM: Killer new song from one of Australia's better bands, Caligula's Horse
https://youtu.be/3C5qnG0GLfI
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Post by: wolfking on October 18, 2015, 05:06:54 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on October 17, 2015, 11:01:19 PM
Killer new song from one of Australia's better bands, Caligula's Horse
https://youtu.be/3C5qnG0GLfI

Not bad at all.

Gonna dive into the Saxon and CIIC and will post my thoughts tomorrow.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 18, 2015, 11:03:54 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 18, 2015, 05:06:54 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on October 17, 2015, 11:01:19 PM
Killer new song from one of Australia's better bands, Caligula's Horse
https://youtu.be/3C5qnG0GLfI

Not bad at all.

Gonna dive into the Saxon and CIIC and will post my thoughts tomorrow.

Brent would never let us down with his reviews. The CIIC has got to be outstanding! And you know Saxon always delievers
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Post by: Lowdz on October 18, 2015, 11:12:40 AM: Not really had a lot of chances to listen to the newie said but the Saxon made a great first impression, as did CIIC. Winery Dogs is the only recent release that hasn't hit the spot for me and I liked the first one.
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Post by: wolfking on October 18, 2015, 10:39:55 PM: Have listened to both twice.

The Saxon impressed me a little more than the CIIC to be honest, but CIIC have always been a band that require quite a few spins to really get into. The last album is my second fav of theirs but initially, I thought it was just solid and probably in the middle of the bunch.

It's very slick, heavy, good melodies and performances and all round nothing weak here. Sounds like a fantastic album and some real stunners on here. Great solos as usual. Seems a lot shorter than what I'm used to from the band also. I can't rate it as highly as Brent, as to me at the moment, it's just another solid slab of music from CIIC. I'm not quite sure what is in hear that Brent doesn't here in previous releases, especially the last one. But my opinion on it could easily rise even more. If you're a fan of the band, you won't be disappointed.

The Saxon is outstanding. The Accept comparisons with this from Brent are spot on, especially in terms of the excellent production. Great songs, Biff sounds great, amazing riffs, this one has it all. Jason, you will be in love with this, guaranteed. I'll post more thoughts with more listens.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 18, 2015, 10:48:42 PM: Sounds awesome!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 19, 2015, 02:30:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 18, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
I'm not quite sure what is in hear that Brent doesn't here in previous releases, especially the last one.

I'm not sure either but I was bored after the first few tracks on the last one and set it aside. This one I was high fiving my monitor from the minute it started. Tastes :) I haven't listened to every C2C album over and over (although I have them all) but on first listen this seems clearly the heaviest to me and has the least of the parts I don't like from Zak era Savatage.
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Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2015, 05:14:15 AM: I would definitely say it's their heaviest and darkest too. But really, since Delusions of Grandeur, they have stepped up the heaviness, but the production has always seemed to let them down. Seasons Will Fall was a big step up in production and this seems another step up. The style of riffing on this album adds to the heaviness too. The rhythm guitars are great. Gonna spin it loud in the car as it will give me a good chance to digest it. I guess sometimes Brent certain albums just scratch the itch even if we don't fully know why.

I had the Saxon in the car all day today and it sounded brilliant.

The whole thing is quite brilliant but my favourites are the title track, Queen of Hearts and Top of the World. The latter being a brilliant piece of melodic hard rock. But saying that, Devil's Footprints, the Priest like Destroyer, Eye of the Storm and Stand Your Ground are all excellent metal outings. A special mention to Kingdom of the Cross. It's probably one of my favs but hard to say just cause it's so different. It's really well done, and has a lot of emotion for such a somber piece and something brilliant and unique for the band.
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Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2015, 05:18:17 AM: Hmmm....listening to the CIIC again now. Untold Dreams is fucking brilliant. Even though my initial reactions weren't as strong as yours Brent, I do think this will grow into a monster.

And Brent, One More Day might be one of my favs, that riff is so damn good.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2015, 05:34:51 PM: Glad everyone seems to be really liking the Saxon and C2C - even aside from my roulette I am having a ripper week with some new releases and old discoveries. I think I have heard more that I like this week (with limited time) than I have in the last 3 months.

I am currently half way through a quick listen to the Hoekstra album and it has been a positive surprise too. I was expecting something much more "production line" and more AOR but it rocks , the songs have some sort of originality and the playing is good. Nothing mind bending but quality and better than expectations.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 05:36:45 PM: Might have to check that one out too then. The songs I heard didn't interest me that much, the project on a whole should based on the style and those involved.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2015, 05:43:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 05:36:45 PM
The songs I heard didn't interest me that much, the project on a whole should based on the style and those involved.

Ditto..............samples underwhelmed me too.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2015, 05:46:45 PM: How many ears do you fucking guys have? I only have 2 and would never give Joel Hoekstra the time of day. I don't even know who the fuck he is! I hear he's in Whitesnake. Big F'n deal.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2015, 05:49:15 PM: If you don't have time for anyone you don't fucking know then why the fuck did you do a fucking roulette? :P ;D
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2015, 05:53:39 PM: No fucking clue! :lol

Seriously, I read posts here and I think I have it pretty good, but I just don't have the time and wherewithal. Every now and then I think, "WTF are these people talking about?". This was one of those times! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 05:53:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 20, 2015, 05:46:45 PM
How many ears do you fucking guys have? I only have 2 and would never give Joel Hoekstra the time of day. I don't even know who the fuck he is! I hear he's in Whitesnake. Big F'n deal.

WTF?
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 05:55:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 20, 2015, 05:53:39 PM
No fucking clue! :lol

Seriously, I read posts here and I think I have it pretty good, but I just don't have the time and wherewithal. Every now and then I think, "WTF are these people talking about?". This was one of those times! :lol

It only takes an hour to check out an album. If we like it, it sticks, if not we move on. But come on Tim, you should be able to keep up. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2015, 05:59:08 PM: I know..............the TAC roulette was all a big excuse to hear some Winger and pretend like you didn't want some of this action

(https://s3.postimg.org/dmtleab37/kip.jpg)

If it counts for anything the vocals on the Hoekstra album are shared by Soto and Russ Allen.

I do sorta know what you mean though..................sometimes I waste my time trawling through all sorts of rubbish when I could be listening to the classics and not have to worry. But occasionally I have a week like this one and it's worth it all of a sudden.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 20, 2015, 06:00:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 20, 2015, 05:46:45 PM
How many ears do you fucking guys have? I only have 2 and would never give Joel Hoekstra the time of day. I don't even know who the fuck he is! I hear he's in Whitesnake. Big F'n deal.

Tim is turning heel
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:01:29 PM: Yeah, that's why he can't keep up, as it's Winger 24/7 for Timmy.

Quote from: bl5150 on October 20, 2015, 05:59:08 PM
I do sorta know what you mean though..................sometimes I waste my time trawling through all sorts of rubbish when I could be listening to the classics and not have to worry. But occasionally I have a week like this one and it's worth it all of a sudden.

I understand this too, and it's proven time and time again but the amount of classics I have that I really haven't delved into properly. But I just can't seem to let new stuff pass me by too much. The thought of missing out on a gem doesn't sit well with me.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2015, 06:02:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 20, 2015, 05:53:39 PM
No fucking clue! :lol

Seriously, I read posts here and I think I have it pretty good, but I just don't have the time and wherewithal. Every now and then I think, "WTF are these people talking about?". This was one of those times! :lol

It only takes an hour to check out an album. If we like it, it sticks, if not we move on. But come on Tim, you should be able to keep up. :lol

It's funny. I was about to set up my computer and speakers in the kitchen while making dinner tonight to check out the C2C. But I just didn't have the energy. :lol

I DID do that with Golgotha last week and was pleasantly surprised.

@Brent: That's not even right. But if you'll excuse me The Lovely Mrs TAC is calling! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:11:20 PM: Should I just bite the bullet and get a cheap mp3 version of Golgotha, or stay true to my morals and just order the thing? I'm such a procrastinator.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2015, 06:29:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:11:20 PM
Should I just bite the bullet and get a cheap mp3 version of Golgotha, or stay true to my morals and just order the thing? I'm such a procrastinator.
Always a dilemma. I currently don't download stuff. Not because of morals, but mainly because of the untrustworthy sources. I have in the past, but I think I'm good with it. All I need is to have some child pornography attached and I'd be fucked.

Golgotha is going to be a test. Did I like it enough to buy it with my Christmas Amazon Cards or let it go altogether? I can always pull it up on Youtube if I need to.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:34:11 PM: How do you listen to your stuff first?

I use a pretty legit site that charges like 12c a track. It seems okay and has been good for a while now.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2015, 06:40:40 PM: If I want to sample something, I'll do it on youtube. My method of finding new bands is to check the reviews on Bravewords or Metal Reviews. If I read something interesting, I'll check it on Youtube. If I like the vocals and the music is decent, I will do a buy.

But I do have a budget.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2015, 06:42:49 PM: I have pretty much made the switch - aside from the issue of storage for many thousands of CDs , having my whole collection at my fingertips and not having to find a disc is pretty cool. I finally got around to ripping the vast majority of my discs a year or two ago. Maybe my hearing is going but the sound difference is minor and in some cases it seems like modern albums are mastered with mp3 in mind and they can actually sound better.

I generally only buy a disc now if it's an all time favourite artist or if I feel it will benefit an up and coming artist (via direct purchase).

Having said all that there is a drop in the amount of connection I feel with a lot of the music these days vs the experience of travel , buying CDs from the store etc...... but all my old haunts are closed anyway . On the whole going digital for the vast majority of my new purchases makes sense to me .
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Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2015, 06:43:57 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:34:11 PM
How do you listen to your stuff first?

I use a pretty legit site that charges like 12c a track. It seems okay and has been good for a while now.

(https://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/seems-legit1.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:46:40 PM: Pretty much the same Brent, although I like to get the cd's of my fav bands like you say, which is a lot. Money becomes a factor as we get older, so I'm more picky with what I'll actually purchase on cd, but the amount of releases these days, it's quite a lot.

I rip all my cd's anyway when I buy them so it seems counter productive, but for some reason, I don't really care. And yeah, the difference in quality is minimal and next to none IMO.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:48:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 20, 2015, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:34:11 PM
How do you listen to your stuff first?

I use a pretty legit site that charges like 12c a track. It seems okay and has been good for a while now.

(https://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/seems-legit1.jpg)

Yeah, I know, I feel dirty doing it, but anything that sticks, I will purchase for sure. Most of the time, I'll buy it there, download, keep it in a separate folder and normally never listen to it again. The only two lately I've done this with that have stuck were the new Serpentine and Borealis, but they are so fucking expensive to get a copy of, that I just can't bring myself to spend the amount of money they cost.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2015, 06:49:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:46:40 PM
Pretty much the same Brent, although I like to get the cd's of my fav bands like you say, which is a lot. Money becomes a factor as we get older, so I'm more picky with what I'll actually purchase on cd, but the amount of releases these days, it's quite a lot.

I rip all my cd's anyway when I buy them so it seems counter productive, but for some reason, I don't really care. And yeah, the difference in quality is minimal and next to none IMO.

Probably 2/3 of my purchases are Amazon downloads.

And yeah, money is an issue. You can buy more music buying the download.
While I CAN buy anything I want, it's really my family's money, so I am sensitive.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 06:55:58 PM: I can buy whatever I want too, but I'm just a tight ass. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 20, 2015, 06:59:41 PM: I've definitely condensed the amount of cd's I purchase as compared to a few years back. Like Brent, I will buy my favorite artists and now only pick and choose anything else. Believe me, its much better then it used to be lol

Besides a dozen or so songs on napster in the late 90's, I've never downloaded a song

I'm old school, I still want the physical copy and that will never change, guaranteed.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:03:33 PM: Do you think we are a rare in fact a rare breed these days with the purchasing of music? Or possibly might have something to do with our age. Guys in their late teens and early twenties might not be able to afford the amount of music we get through.

When I visit the cd stores I go to, I see the same metal cd's sitting there for such a long time. I can usually tell if anything and what has been purchased from the shelves weeks apart. :lol

I think it's refreshing to see a group like us so committed to our bands and buying the music.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2015, 07:04:04 PM: Spotify gents... use the free version if you have to. I think you get 10 hours per month, ad supported. Personally, it's worth the $12 CAD per month for premium. It's saved me from having to "download" stuff just to sample, and I feel kinda good that even fractions of pennies are going to the artists. If it's good enough, and certain bands I always contribute to... then I'll buy the CD. And when I go to shows, I always buy merch, and the discs straight from the band.

I'd say my purchases are 60/40 digital/physical. I've got a lock on a couple of Russian paid sites that I use only as a method of last resort - when shit isn't on Spotify, Amazon iTunes, or Bandcamp. At the moment, Conception is falling into that category. Seeing as how they've been disbanded for years, I don't feel overly bad about lifting them (if I decide to do so).
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 20, 2015, 07:07:24 PM: I guarantee we are a rare breed.

I actually overheard a conversation at work a couple of days ago where someone mentioned that he witnessed someone actually buy a cd at walmart. He said he gave the person a weird look.

I just kind of smirked lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:08:21 PM: That does sound quite good Chad, I might have to look into it. Would be a lot more than that a month for me with this exchange rate at the moment. :facepalm:

Quote from: jingle.boy on October 20, 2015, 07:04:04 PM
At the moment, Conception is falling into that category. Seeing as how they've been disbanded for years, I don't feel overly bad about lifting them (if I decide to do so).

I have this mentality also. Inactive bands I don't feel so guilty about, as the record company would probably get all the money anyway.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:09:14 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 20, 2015, 07:07:24 PM
I guarantee we are a rare breed.

I actually overheard a conversation at work a couple of days ago where someone mentioned that he witnessed someone actually buy a cd at walmart. He said he gave the person a weird look.

I just kind of smirked lol

That's quite sad and ignorant and proves the argument of a lot of the artists across the world at the moment when it comes to music sales.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2015, 07:12:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:08:21 PM
That does sound quite good Chad, I might have to look into it. Would be a lot more than that a month for me with this exchange rate at the moment. :facepalm:

I think Spotify prices things locally. It's actually only $9.99/mo CAD + tax. PM Bolsters to see what the AU price is, he uses it - that's how he's been sending me his Roulette submissions. I assume he is using one of the paid levels.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:15:25 PM: Just had a look at the website and then it said sign in with facebook. There's a roadblock. :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2015, 07:20:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Just had a look at the website and then it said sign in with facebook. There's a roadblock. :lol

You CAN use FB to sign on, but pretty certain one can register with just an email address.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:50:04 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 20, 2015, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Just had a look at the website and then it said sign in with facebook. There's a roadblock. :lol

You CAN use FB to sign on, but pretty certain one can register with just an email address.

That's cool. I'll look into it more when I'm at home and see if I can do a free trial first.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 20, 2015, 08:07:30 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:50:04 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 20, 2015, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Just had a look at the website and then it said sign in with facebook. There's a roadblock. :lol

You CAN use FB to sign on, but pretty certain one can register with just an email address.

That's cool. I'll look into it more when I'm at home and see if I can do a free trial first.

I only use the free version, and it's been fine. just the very occasional 15 second ad. If you intend to use it as your primary mode of listening to music it might be limiting, but for browsing music and checking out some new albums, I find the free version to be more than enough.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 08:18:51 PM: Cool Blob, yeah I won't use it that much, but seems like a handy tool. Might try and sign up tonight.
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Post by: Bolsters on October 20, 2015, 09:10:41 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 20, 2015, 07:04:04 PM
Spotify gents... use the free version if you have to. I think you get 10 hours per month, ad supported.
There's no limit to how much music you can listen to on Spotify free. The only drawbacks are the ads which play after every few songs, the quality which is 160kbps - but it's Ogg Vorbis so it's better than 160kbps MP3, and no keeping files for offline listening. Premium removes the ads, bumps the quality up to 320kbps OGG, and allows up to 9,999 songs to be stored on up to three devices (no more than 3,333 per device however) for offline listening.

Quote from: jingle.boy on October 20, 2015, 07:12:33 PM
PM Bolsters to see what the AU price is, he uses it - that's how he's been sending me his Roulette submissions. I assume he is using one of the paid levels.
Nope, I'm a cheapass. :lol I've been thinking about subscribing lately though. Premium is $11.99 per month for us if you're curious, Kade.

Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Just had a look at the website and then it said sign in with facebook. There's a roadblock. :lol
They give you a choice of signing up using Facebook or an email address.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 09:21:11 PM: Cool as man. I'd probably just sign up free if there's no limit. As I said, anything solid I'll buy on cd anyway. Sounds too good to be true to be honest. I guess that's why artists are blowing up.
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Post by: Bolsters on October 20, 2015, 09:28:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 09:21:11 PM
Cool as man. I'd probably just sign up free if there's no limit. As I said, anything solid I'll buy on cd anyway. Sounds too good to be true to be honest. I guess that's why artists are blowing up.
An artist can expect to get between 0.6 to 0.84 cents per song streamed in royalties. :lol So if you want to support the artists Spotify is a terrible way to do so.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 10:22:29 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on October 20, 2015, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2015, 09:21:11 PM
Cool as man. I'd probably just sign up free if there's no limit. As I said, anything solid I'll buy on cd anyway. Sounds too good to be true to be honest. I guess that's why artists are blowing up.
An artist can expect to get between 0.6 to 0.84 cents per song streamed in royalties. :lol So if you want to support the artists Spotify is a terrible way to do so.

Good lord.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 20, 2015, 11:24:55 PM: I get people making strange comments and looking at me weird when I mention I buy CD's.
Most reply with 'why don't you download them for free?'.....
Then when I tell them I just bought a new turntable and that I also buy vinyl, they think I'm certifiable.
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Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2015, 05:03:27 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on October 20, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
I get people making strange comments and looking at me weird when I mention I buy CD's.
Most reply with 'why don't you download them for free?'.....
Then when I tell them I just bought a new turntable and that I also buy vinyl, they think I'm certifiable.

I've heard that a few times, it fucks me off.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 21, 2015, 05:41:33 AM: Horseshit
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 21, 2015, 05:50:53 AM: Kids these days. Meanwhile, the spend $4 for a coffee that is gone in 15 minutes; $15 for a 2 hour movie in the theater, but refuse to drop between $5-$10 for an album that will last a lifetime.

:youfail:
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Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2015, 05:58:22 AM: Not to mention $100 plus for hipster jeans and shirts, and go out and spend easily a few hundred dollars on drinks and shit on a night out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 21, 2015, 08:27:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 21, 2015, 05:58:22 AM
Not to mention $100 plus for hipster jeans and shirts, and go out and spend easily a few hundred dollars on drinks and shit on a night out.

Just pay for some music ya hipster doofus pricks
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 21, 2015, 05:48:41 PM: The new CIIC and Stryper are fantastic.

I would hold their last releases, Seasons Will Fall and NMHTP as good as it gets from each band. However, I think I can say the new releases will easily equal them and quite likely, surpass them.

Both albums will be the heaviest from both bands to date; for CIIC, it's their heaviest and darkest.

Standout tracks for CIIC are "Ghost of the Devil" & "Taken Away.

For Stryper, "Pride" & "King of Kings"

But no filler on either- all awesome!
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Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2015, 05:49:32 AM: Nice Jason.

The CIIC is very dark, especially in the lyrics departement. However, I find myself having to repeat this time and time again. I knew it would grow into a monster and it's surpassing that, it's fantastic. How Brent got to his rating only after 2 listens is impressive. It's taken me 10-12. I can't seem to turn it off, love the production, the heavy ass guitars, the melodies, the consistencies throughout and love how the lead guitar pans prominently between left and right speakers dependant on the guitarist. I love hearing that shit on a studio album. The solos on here are very, very impressive too, as with all CIIC albums though.

Brilliant piece of work this. If I had to pick some favs, I don't know maybe; Untold Dreams, Ghost of the Devil, Somewhere and Taken Away I'd say. Have to mention One More Day with that heavy as fuck riff.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2015, 05:01:19 PM: I found it a pretty instant attraction too. I'm not a huge CIIC fan, maybe that's why. I've not heard all their albums and aren't that familiar with any save the first.

Just downloaded the new Vinnie Moore but won't have chance to play it tonight. Just burning a disc for the car.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 22, 2015, 05:52:12 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 22, 2015, 05:01:19 PM
I found it a pretty instant attraction too. I'm not a huge CIIC fan, maybe that's why. I've not heard all their albums and aren't that familiar with any save the first.

Just downloaded the new Vinnie Moore but won't have chance to play it tonight. Just burning a disc for the car.

Did you "download it for free"?
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Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2015, 05:59:38 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 22, 2015, 05:01:19 PM
I found it a pretty instant attraction too. I'm not a huge CIIC fan, maybe that's why. I've not heard all their albums and aren't that familiar with any save the first.

Just downloaded the new Vinnie Moore but won't have chance to play it tonight. Just burning a disc for the car.

Yeah, funny how you guys liked it instantly, still such a grower for me.

The Vinnie Moore is out already?
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 22, 2015, 07:59:39 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 22, 2015, 05:52:12 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 22, 2015, 05:01:19 PM
I found it a pretty instant attraction too. I'm not a huge CIIC fan, maybe that's why. I've not heard all their albums and aren't that familiar with any save the first.

Just downloaded the new Vinnie Moore but won't have chance to play it tonight. Just burning a disc for the car.

Did you "download it for free"?

I'm sure he spent at least €0.12 per song. :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on October 23, 2015, 01:18:48 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 22, 2015, 05:52:12 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 22, 2015, 05:01:19 PM
I found it a pretty instant attraction too. I'm not a huge CIIC fan, maybe that's why. I've not heard all their albums and aren't that familiar with any save the first.

Just downloaded the new Vinnie Moore but won't have chance to play it tonight. Just burning a disc for the car.

Did you "download it for free"?

No, through the Kickstarter.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 23, 2015, 02:21:09 AM: So apparently I'm another one of those rare species that still buy their music. For a long time I only bought physical copies but because I rip all my cds to mp3s anyway and my computer is my main music player and I don't hear the difference between a good mp3 and a song on cd, I've switched to mostly online purchases via amazon lately.

For checking out music I mostly use the free spotify version. I've thought about going premium, but they want to have to much private information and too much access rights on my tablet for my liking, so I stay with the free version.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 23, 2015, 06:53:18 AM: :tup
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2015, 12:44:12 PM: Did you guys see this story? WTF? :lol
https://bravewords.com/news/vital-remains-ejected-from-club-after-fans-start-moshing
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 23, 2015, 12:45:44 PM: wow
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 23, 2015, 01:08:21 PM: New Anthrax: Evil Twin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPmLkF3e6Fc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPmLkF3e6Fc)

It's not bad but doesn't blow me away, still eagerly awaiting the new album (first quarter of 2016)
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2015, 01:25:46 PM: Wow, I like it. Classic Anthrax.

It took a long time for Worship Music to click, but when it did....BAM!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 23, 2015, 01:30:48 PM: Great tune.

If this album is anything like WM, I'll be happy. That's a fantastic disc
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 23, 2015, 02:23:55 PM: Yeah, Worship Music was great after it had sunk in. Back then I didn't believe that they still had a killer record in them. It was 8 years since the last studio record (WCFYA) and the chaos with their lead singers (Bush in, Bush out, Belladonna in and out, then Dan Nelson and then Belladonna again and rumors of Corey Taylor etc.) did significantly lower my expectations. But man, did they deliver. If the new one is anything like it, I would cry tears of joy :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2015, 02:42:06 PM: I did not like WCFYA at all. I felt like it took so long to get out, it was sucked of all life a la St. Anger.

I bought Worship Music upon it's release, and I liked it, but then out of the blue, it hit me like a ton of bricks.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 23, 2015, 02:49:08 PM: Comparing WCFYA to St. Anger is simply not fair ;D Nothing is as lifeless as St. Anger. Oh, and I really liked WCFYA, not their best but good enough imo.
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2015, 02:51:36 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 23, 2015, 02:49:08 PM
Comparing WCFYA to St. Anger is simply not fair ;D Nothing is as lifeless as St. Anger. Oh, and I really liked WCFYA, not their best but good enough imo.

I seem to be on the wrong side of WCFYA. Lots of folks I respect love it. I just think it's so bad. :)

BTW I LOVE John Bush!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 23, 2015, 03:01:11 PM: John Bush's the man :metal

Before Bush came along I always thought that Belladonna was the weak link. Not aggressive enough with his high pitched vocals. But on Worship Music he completely blew me away. His voice sounds more toned down and powerful, one of the few singer's that get better with age.
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2015, 03:11:08 PM: I still never understood them replacing Joey with John. They were on an upward trajectory. I know the 90's were tough, and maybe they still would've struggled with Joey. I remember seeing them in Boston the first time out with John. Didn't they do 3 East Coast and 3 West Coast dates with MTV in tow?

Stomp 442 is one of my favorite albums of all time.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 23, 2015, 03:24:09 PM: I'm not the biggest Anthrax fan though Spreading the Disease is a great album. Might have to give the last couple a go as I've been on a thrash kick recently.

Joey is a great singer but was probably too good for a thrash band. If you hear him singing journey it's hard to imagine him singing thrash and it was a bit incongruent when they heavier things up after StD. John bush has a great heavy voice but the SOWN album didn't do it for me, apart from a song or two. Black Lodge is the Bly thing that springs to mind from it.
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2015, 03:26:45 PM: I'll be honest. I remember being very disappointed with SOWN. I do like it now.
In fact, I would say that the Bush era was all in all a failure in my eyes.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 23, 2015, 03:48:50 PM: Really like the new tune though. :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on October 23, 2015, 05:24:45 PM: So, the Vinnie Moore.
Really good on first listen. Very bluesy and laid back in tone, though plenty of widdley in there. Some tracks sound like they would be on meltdown if they were produced differently.

Certainly makes me want to delve into it, unlike the recent T Mac which was awful. It's not going to be up there with the first three which were godly but I'd take this over anything since The Maze.

It's on Spotify now.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 23, 2015, 08:56:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 23, 2015, 05:24:45 PM
So, the Vinnie Moore.
Really good on first listen. Very bluesy and laid back in tone, though plenty of widdley in there. Some tracks sound like they would be on meltdown if they were produced differently.

Certainly makes me want to delve into it, unlike the recent T Mac which was awful. It's not going to be up there with the first three which were godly but I'd take this over anything since The Maze.

It's on Spotify now.

Glad I am not the only one who didn't like the last TMac. I have only listened to a couple of tracks on the new VM one and I did hear touches of Meltdown myself , albeit a bit rawer.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2015, 04:06:57 AM: The TMac was a difficult listen. I didn't go back to it that much, but the DVD of the band performing the songs helped it grow.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2015, 07:59:42 PM: Metal Church EPK

https://youtu.be/wLBQKXQlKSc

Mike looks like he's really not getting into recording those vocals :lol :metal

I am looking forward to this.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:10:51 PM: Another Freefall track posted. I wasn't that impressed with the snippets but he full tracks are sounding excellent. Preorder booked.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=UViFMBKCRJc
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 05:12:11 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Another Freefall track posted. I wasn't that impressed with the snippets but he full tracks are sounding excellent. Preorder booked.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=UViFMBKCRJc

I have only listened to the first half but at this point (although fairly predictable) I am liking it more than the first. But then I rated the first quite a bit lower than most here (except TAC :D ).
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Post by: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:21:40 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Another Freefall track posted. I wasn't that impressed with the snippets but he full tracks are sounding excellent. Preorder booked.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=UViFMBKCRJc

I have only listened to the first half but at this point (although fairly predictable) I am liking it more than the first. But then I rated the first quite a bit lower than most here (except TAC :D ).

What does he know? You I thought would know better :lol

Played the 1st one in the car the other day and it's still a great album. Some great vocal performances. Mat Sinner plays a blinder. I know you don't like the multi vocalist thing but I really don't notice it all that much as Tony Harnell aside, the others are fairly similar, singing typical RK songs.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 05:23:09 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Another Freefall track posted. I wasn't that impressed with the snippets but he full tracks are sounding excellent. Preorder booked.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=UViFMBKCRJc

Really good. Jakob sounds great as usual. Magnus has a great knack for writing appropriate songs for his singers. Any Poodles fans could tell this is a perfectly written song for his voice.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 05:24:52 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Another Freefall track posted. I wasn't that impressed with the snippets but he full tracks are sounding excellent. Preorder booked.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=UViFMBKCRJc

I have only listened to the first half but at this point (although fairly predictable) I am liking it more than the first. But then I rated the first quite a bit lower than most here (except TAC :D ).

What does he know? You I thought would know better :lol

Played the 1st one in the car the other day and it's still a great album. Some great vocal performances. Mat Sinner plays a blinder. I know you don't like the multi vocalist thing but I really don't notice it all that much as Tony Harnell aside, the others are fairly similar, singing typical RK songs.

Bro, huh?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 05:34:04 PM: I just wasn't a huge fan of the songs on the debut Freefall from memory - when I get a chance to finish off the latest one I will play the debut after and see if my view has changed. I am liking the new one so far though - seems a bit heavier overall too.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 05:35:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 05:34:04 PM
I just wasn't a huge fan of the songs on the debut Freefall from memory - when I get a chance to finish off the latest one I will play the debut after and see if my view has changed. I am liking the new one so far though - seems a bit heavier overall too.

Fuck yeah.

I just wish Magnus would do more intricate extended solo sections, like Last Tribe sort of shit. The one song he sings on gives hope of that though.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 05:40:13 PM: Hmm - looks like a might get a listen to the new Vanden Plas today too. Not as early as Mr Evermind but still :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:42:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 05:24:52 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Another Freefall track posted. I wasn't that impressed with the snippets but he full tracks are sounding excellent. Preorder booked.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=UViFMBKCRJc

I have only listened to the first half but at this point (although fairly predictable) I am liking it more than the first. But then I rated the first quite a bit lower than most here (except TAC :D ).

What does he know? You I thought would know better :lol

Played the 1st one in the car the other day and it's still a great album. Some great vocal performances. Mat Sinner plays a blinder. I know you don't like the multi vocalist thing but I really don't notice it all that much as Tony Harnell aside, the others are fairly similar, singing typical RK songs.

Bro, huh?

It's the pills I tell ya. I've not been well.... Ralph Scheepers, not mat sinner. Ans I mixed up Magnus Karlssons with the golfer robert Karlsson. Bloody good job I'm not at work :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 05:45:41 PM: Well here's music vid of the year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYeWXuRAF9M

Brings back memories of that classic Virgin Steele one.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 05:48:32 PM: I'm 19 seconds in and in heaven. Do these guys know it's 2015? Fucking awful song though.
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2015, 06:11:43 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Another Freefall track posted. I wasn't that impressed with the snippets but he full tracks are sounding excellent. Preorder booked.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=UViFMBKCRJc

I have only listened to the first half but at this point (although fairly predictable) I am liking it more than the first. But then I rated the first quite a bit lower than most here (except TAC :D ).

What does he know?

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/24837028.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 06:34:11 PM: :lol

Bits of the Karlsson stuff are so "simple" it hints at a guy running out of ideas - the riff to the Hess song is something a second year guitarist would come up with in warmups - but it works and that's really all that matters :lol

Overall though this album sounds a bit nearer his Allen/Lande vibe - even some of the keyboard effects - and to me is a heavier, more majestic sounding effort.

Early rating ........85-87% ,which is way higher than I rated the debut. In any other year (recently) that would put it near the top for the year but there's been so many good releases in recent weeks that it's just another very good album.

I think you guys will really like it. Later today I will try and squeeze in a listen to the debut.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 06:48:22 PM: Looking forward to it big time. I got a Allen/Lande vibe from the last song that was released with Magnus on vox. As I think of it though, the Jorn track does sound like on older Allen/Lande song too.

What's the chick like that no one has heard of? And any really stellar guitar work Brent? I know everything he does guitar wise is stellar but lately I've found his leads a bit safe and not much thought into the solos and such.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 07:10:31 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 06:48:22 PM
Looking forward to it big time. I got a Allen/Lande vibe from the last song that was released with Magnus on vox. As I think of it though, the Jorn track does sound like on older Allen/Lande song too.

What's the chick like that no one has heard of? And any really stellar guitar work Brent? I know everything he does guitar wise is stellar but lately I've found his leads a bit safe and not much thought into the solos and such.

I would have to go back and listen to the solos more specifically Kade. I am doing other things while I listen and just focusing on how much I like the song as a whole. All I can say is that none of the solos blew my mind , but neither did anything strike me as really subpar. You know what I'm like with my critiques of guitarists though :lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 07:12:41 PM: It's all good, considering Magnus' solo output lately, I kind of know what to expect then. A shame, the work he put into some of the instrumental sections of some of the Last Tribe work, was incredible.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 07:14:56 PM: As far as favourites go - if pushed to choose I think I would go with the Tony Martin track...listening to that again now. Could be on Tyr.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 07:24:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 07:14:56 PM
As far as favourites go - if pushed to choose I think I would go with the Tony Martin track...listening to that again now. Could be on Tyr.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2419/1849109365_569a41f236_z.jpg?zz=1)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 07:44:26 PM: And that song does have an impressive solo section - one of the better metal songs of the year.

Meanwhile at Kade's place..........

(https://s27.postimg.org/nccsyw6qr/tumblr_m738mb_Huza1qzo3zwo1_1280.png)
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2015, 07:50:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 07:44:26 PM
And that song does have an impressive solo section - one of the better metal songs of the year.

Meanwhile at Kade's place..........

(https://s27.postimg.org/nccsyw6qr/tumblr_m738mb_Huza1qzo3zwo1_1280.png)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/sGnKAiOUrincs/giphy.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2015, 09:48:52 PM: The Tony Martin news is great news!
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Post by: Lowdz on October 28, 2015, 02:07:36 AM: Didn't realise you were a Tony Martin fan Brent. Knew I should have sent the Sebastien track he sings in your roulette. ;D
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Post by: gazinwales on October 28, 2015, 03:00:58 AM: Yeah 'When The Sky Falls' is a killer song.
A huge riff that with Iommi's sound, as already said, would fit right in on Tyr.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2015, 03:05:39 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 28, 2015, 02:07:36 AM
Didn't realise you were a Tony Martin fan Brent. Knew I should have sent the Sebastien track he sings in your roulette. ;D

Yeah ,I definitely like Martin. In fact the first Sabbath Top 10 I did was Martin era because that's the era I grew up with .......Tyr was my first Sabbath record and it's really the era I would prefer overall (even though I really love Dio and Ozzy ).
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Post by: gazinwales on October 28, 2015, 03:11:28 AM: Yeah me too, that era is my fave Sabbath era.
Let's hope Tony Iommi gets around to releasing those long OOP TM albums with some nice extra's.
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Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2015, 04:55:22 AM: Make that three of us boys.

Quote from: gazinwales on October 28, 2015, 03:00:58 AM
Yeah 'When The Sky Falls' is a killer song.
A huge riff that with Iommi's sound, as already said, would fit right in on Tyr.

You guys are just taunting me.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2015, 05:55:12 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2015, 07:44:26 PM
And that song does have an impressive solo section - one of the better metal songs of the year.

Meanwhile at Kade's place..........

(https://s27.postimg.org/nccsyw6qr/tumblr_m738mb_Huza1qzo3zwo1_1280.png)

:rollin

AWESOME!!
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2015, 01:44:32 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/ritchie-blackmores-rainbow-will-not-appear-at-download-festival-uk-show-to-be-announced-soon

So Blackmore's basically confirms that the singer is an unknown. A "cross between Dio meets Freddie Mercury". Wut?
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Post by: Lowdz on October 28, 2015, 03:16:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2015, 01:44:32 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/ritchie-blackmores-rainbow-will-not-appear-at-download-festival-uk-show-to-be-announced-soon

So Blackmore's basically confirms that the singer is an unknown. A "cross between Dio meets Freddie Mercury". Wut?

It's going to be Candice. He's so under the thumb :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 28, 2015, 08:52:48 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 28, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2015, 01:44:32 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/ritchie-blackmores-rainbow-will-not-appear-at-download-festival-uk-show-to-be-announced-soon

So Blackmore's basically confirms that the singer is an unknown. A "cross between Dio meets Freddie Mercury". Wut?

It's going to be Candice. He's so under the thumb :lol

:lol Would that even count as doing a separate show?

It was already expected that he'd be bringing in no-name people, because he'd be a difficult guy to work with.
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Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2015, 09:15:40 PM: Screw that then.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 28, 2015, 09:19:09 PM: We already knew a lot of the big names were ruled out, but I was hoping it could realistically be someone like JLT. I don't mind too much, as long as they're good. I just want to hear Blackmore rip it up and rock.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2015, 06:08:19 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 28, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
We already knew a lot of the big names were ruled out,

How did we know that?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 29, 2015, 07:07:28 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2015, 06:08:19 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 28, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
We already knew a lot of the big names were ruled out,

How did we know that?

Coverdale has spoken recently about trying to organize a reunion with Blackmore, but it didn't pan out because of differences. Dio is gone. Aside from that, I guess I mean "assume". Would Gillan do it?
As I said in my last post, I thought JLT would have been a real possibility, since they've collaborated somewhat recently. Maybe a few other formers would be up for it. I don't know.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 29, 2015, 08:26:53 AM: I'll be getting a sneak preview listen to the new Def Leppard later today ...........Tim is sooooooo jealous ;D
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2015, 08:55:32 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 29, 2015, 08:26:53 AM
I'll be getting a sneak preview listen to the new Def Leppard later today ...........Tim is sooooooo jealous ;D
I actually heard a second track that was rocking! Sort of. ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2015, 11:58:29 AM: I can probably wait until tomorrow for the def Lep. Last few don't have me desperate to hear it.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 29, 2015, 04:06:55 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 29, 2015, 11:58:29 AM
I can probably wait until tomorrow for the def Lep.

:lol I thought it was further away or wouldn't have mentioned it.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2015, 05:16:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 29, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 29, 2015, 11:58:29 AM
I can probably wait until tomorrow for the def Lep.

:lol I thought it was further away or wouldn't have mentioned it.

30th Nov here. Probably take a couple more weeks to ship them down to you lot down under :biggrin: those galleons don't move too quick
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Post by: bl5150 on October 29, 2015, 06:01:44 PM: Well I don't know where all these huge ratings around the traps for the new Def Leppard are coming from. I suppose it does sound mostly like a band doing as they like and so there's plenty of diversity but there's also nothing on this that I'll be rushing to play again.

To me it's "solid" , but nothing more. I was tempted to hit Skip a number of times on my first listen. And to those saying this is a return to High n Dry/Pyro...........I want some of whatever you're :hat :hat

Among their worst - 72%
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Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2015, 06:12:17 PM: No rush to buy it then. I'll Apple Music it then. I've spent shitloads on great music recently so not wasting money on average.
Just treated myself to a line 6 sonicport too to go with the iPad.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2015, 06:20:51 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 29, 2015, 06:12:17 PM
No rush to buy it then.

Why would you buy it at all??
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2015, 08:43:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2015, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 29, 2015, 06:12:17 PM
No rush to buy it then.

Why would you buy it at all??

I love the first three Def Lep albums. Very little interest in anything after that though.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2015, 08:45:06 PM: I may not be completely in love with Pyromania, but definitely the first 2.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 29, 2015, 11:33:58 PM: I have never really listened to the debut much , although ironically one of my faves off the follow up (possibly THE fave) is On Through The Night.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2015, 03:28:04 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 29, 2015, 11:33:58 PM
I have never really listened to the debut much , although ironically one of my faves off the follow up (possibly THE fave) is On Through The Night.

Such an awesome tune. I love High n Dry. One of my all time favorite albums.
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Post by: Bolsters on October 30, 2015, 04:14:39 AM: I don't think I've heard a single Def Leppard song post-90's. This response is not encouraging me to want to change that.
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2015, 05:10:23 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on October 30, 2015, 04:14:39 AM
I don't think I've heard a single Def Leppard song post-90's. This response is not encouraging me to want to change that.

I don't think I'd know any post 90's DL songs either come to think of it.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2015, 05:32:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2015, 05:10:23 AM
Quote from: Bolsters on October 30, 2015, 04:14:39 AM
I don't think I've heard a single Def Leppard song post-90's. This response is not encouraging me to want to change that.

I don't think I'd know any post 90's DL songs either come to think of it.
Post 90's Def Lep Round in your Roulette? ;D
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2015, 05:33:54 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2015, 05:32:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2015, 05:10:23 AM
Quote from: Bolsters on October 30, 2015, 04:14:39 AM
I don't think I've heard a single Def Leppard song post-90's. This response is not encouraging me to want to change that.

I don't think I'd know any post 90's DL songs either come to think of it.
Post 90's Def Lep Round in your Roulette? ;D

You don't want to win?
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Post by: Lowdz on October 30, 2015, 06:11:16 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2015, 08:45:06 PM
I may not be completely in love with Pyromania, but definitely the first 2.

Pyro is awesome, their finest hour. HnD is great but has some filler, same with OTTN. Hysteria is the classic everyone says but I'd take Pyro over it. I don't mind Adrenalize but since then it's been slim pickings (sounds like a country artist :lol). Each album since has a few good songs but a lot of crap.

New one isn't streaming yet that I can see. Will do a track by track when it is as I'm off sick and have nothing better to do :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 30, 2015, 06:14:30 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 30, 2015, 06:11:16 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2015, 08:45:06 PM
I may not be completely in love with Pyromania, but definitely the first 2.

Pyro is awesome, their finest hour. HnD is great but has some filler, same with OTTN. Hysteria is the classic everyone says but I'd take Pyro over it. I don't mind Adrenalize but since then it's been slim pickings (sounds like a country artist :lol). Each album since has a few good songs but a lot of crap.

New one isn't streaming yet that I can see. Will do a track by track when it is as I'm off sick and have nothing better to do :lol

My track by track

1) Pour Some zzz..........

2) promisezzzzzzzzzz

3)Def Leppard meetzzzzzzzzz Queen

4)zzzzzzzzz

and so on :lol It's actually not all that bad but not one track bettered a 8 for me - and I'm an easy marker :)

Have fun :neverusethis:

And yeah............Pyro is my fave , followed by HnD , Retroactive and then Hysteria.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 30, 2015, 07:08:54 PM: Yeesh, its more and more difficult to find cd's in store. No Saxon today either at HMV

I'll just wait a week and order it through amazon with Magnus Karlsson.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 31, 2015, 02:31:04 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 29, 2015, 05:16:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 29, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 29, 2015, 11:58:29 AM
I can probably wait until tomorrow for the def Lep.

:lol I thought it was further away or wouldn't have mentioned it.

30th Nov here. Probably take a couple more weeks to ship them down to you lot down under :biggrin: those galleons don't move too quick

Nope, it's already out here locally :biggrin:
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/hard-rock-rock/def-leppard/803957/
Convicts 1 - 0 Poms
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Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2015, 07:14:38 AM: Let's go. Starts off like do you wanna get rocked before the self referential PSSOM riff. Chorus sounds like something One Direction would do. Still, nice enough.

Dangerous is anything but but clearly sounds like def lep, a bit too much so in the riff case as its lifted straight from Promises. Nice song though.

Man enough is clearly DL trying to be Queens another one bites the dust. Not awful but too much of a queen rewrite to be great, down to the finger snaps. I don't particularly like AOBTD and I feel the same about this.

We Belong . Typical hysteria like ballad, again nice enough. Should I be using the word nice so much on a rock album?

Invincible. A bit more like it. Basic but chunky riff, still a bit pedestrian despite the obvious attempt to rock things up a bit. Again it sounds too nice. The crystal clear production might not be helping. Again I get the one direction impression- if they were to rock it up I imagine it would sound something like this.

Sea of love . Another nice riff. Chorus drags things down after a more uptempo opening. Joe sounds a bit don Henley in the verses. Again that chorus is killing the song a bit. Ooh I hear a bit of sweet home Alabamans riff in the solo. Solo was too short like all of them so far. Let rip guys, you've got viv Campbell in the band ffs.

Energised. You don't sound it. You sound like you need energiser batteries to wake you up. If ever a title did not sum up the song this is it. It's out staying it's welcome.

All time high - nice basic AC/DCish riff again, tempo is better. Again the pristine production robs the song of some impact but it's ok. Oh, we've slowed down again. And the solo doesn't rock on the rockiest song so far. Joe goes high in the outdo. Hell not hit those notes live!

Battle of my Own - bit of a swamp groove in the intro. Led Zep does Skynyrd. Then a cool Zep riff. I can imagine robert plant howling over this. Some Kashmir strings in there too. I'm liking this one. Best song so far, then it ends. Needed another section and a big solo section but it just ends...

Broken n brokenhearted - another hysteria album nod in the riff but the tempo is better. Another slow ploddy solo. Typical def Lep song.

Forever young - first impression is Mott the hoople. Not digging this one too much but it's ok. These solos are pointless, they are just nice space fillers.

Last Dance - sounds like one of those songs retroactive was full of, where they did the acoustic mix of a full blown def Lep ballad. Verses sound like some other song but I can't place it. It's another nice song, fine for what it is. Another song that finishes abruptly. Maybe should have gone to a full big ballad production for the big finale?

Wings of an Angel - good song. Solo has a bit of fire!!! Finally.

Blind Faith - nice intro, good vocal. Again the production is crystal clear. Keep expecting this to build and it isn't doing so far. Oh fuck the panpipes are playing now.... Where's this going? To 1968 and the Beatles.... And back to the laid back vibe just as it was building. Oh here it comes, that's better.joes struggling with the high part. That's going to get messy live. Yeah, I think I liked it. Maybe the build up could've happened sooner and then gone heavier to finish the album off.

All in all it was a nice listen, better than anything since Adrenalize on first listen, but talk about being damned by faint praise. Might not have sounded it from what I've put but it was nice enough (that word again). I've heard some people suggest it's like Slang but I don't know what they are smoking. The only hint of slang was the Kashmir strings on that one track.
Will I buy it? Hmm, not sure yet but I will play it a couple more times and I would get away with playing this in the car without too many complaints from the family, which kind of sums up the album. The production is pristine but this robs some songs of punch when they try to rock. It's probably not a good thing to hear One Direction in a rock album though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2015, 07:16:52 AM: Yyaaawwnnnnn. I'm sorry Lowdz, did you say something? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2015, 08:59:17 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 01, 2015, 07:16:52 AM
Yyaaawwnnnnn. I'm sorry Lowdz, did you say something? ;D

I said "nice" a lot, and mentioned One Direction a couple of times :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 01, 2015, 09:01:16 AM: A for effort Lowdz, but I don't think anyone cares lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2015, 09:13:33 AM: I've been ill, still am, so had nothing better to do jj. :biggrin:
Not done a track by track before so thought I'd give it a go. Not on a par with Kade reviewing Tate, I know :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2015, 09:18:43 AM: So a few pages ago, I went on a mini rant about the Joel Hoekstra. :lol

I was sampling some of the new C2C, which is awesome BTW, but there's still something about Zak that I cannot latch onto. Anyway, Joel Hoekstra came up, and I checked out a few tracks. Damn, that is really good. Long For The Days is GREAT! Love Russ Allen there. To me, that's the style that fits him the best. Seriously.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2015, 10:27:40 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 01, 2015, 09:18:43 AM
So a few pages ago, I went on a mini rant about the Joel Hoekstra. :lol

I was sampling some of the new C2C, which is awesome BTW, but there's still something about Zak that I cannot latch onto. Anyway, Joel Hoekstra came up, and I checked out a few tracks. Damn, that is really good. Long For The Days is GREAT! Love Russ Allen there. To me, that's the style that fits him the best. Seriously.

I'd agree with that. Think I said a couple of weeks ago it's always great hear Russ sing. The new Sym X does have a lot more melody than recent efforts.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 01, 2015, 01:28:23 PM: Everything I've heard from this Joel Hoekstra album sounds pretty good. How could it not be good overall if the two singers are JSS and Russ
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2015, 01:54:23 PM: Just want to say that Battering Ram is freaking incredible. Very heavy, even for Saxon. Queen Of Hearts works better in the flow of the album. Musically the song is all kinds of awesome, but I just think the chorus is kind of clunky.

Oh, and Nigel Glockler. Holy shit! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 01, 2015, 02:05:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 01, 2015, 01:54:23 PM
Just want to say that Battering Ram is freaking incredible. Very heavy, even for Saxon. Queen Of Hearts works better in the flow of the album. Musically the song is all kinds of awesome, but I just think the chorus is kind of clunky.

Oh, and Nigel Glockler. Holy shit! :metal

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2015, 05:11:01 PM: Hoek...........who? He plays for Whitesnake right? Why do you guys even bother with this stuff? :neverusethis:
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Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2015, 08:15:28 PM: Having some fun here with my (7 yo) son putting together his next compilation CD for the car - we've had all the album covers up on iTunes and (with a little direction as to quality) he has been selecting the albums, songs and then having a listen and ruling in/out with zero influence from me.

This little guy is developing heavier taste than me :lol Songs like Def leppard's Photograph, Bon Jovi's Wild is The Wind and Ozzy's I Don't Wanna Change The World were met with comments like "Oh no...........too soft...........get it off" He's not the most consistent there as he likes Michael Jackson but on the whole I am pretty impressed.

Here's the list:

Queen: Bohemian Rhapsody
Scorpions: Blackout
Alice Cooper: Freedom
Reign of Fury :omg: : Gates of Sanity
Ozzy: Miracle Man/Party With The Animals
AC/DC: It's A Long Way To The Top
Weird AL: TAcky
Aerosmith: Dude Looks Like A LAdy/Walk This Way
Europe: Rock The Night
Slade: Run Runaway
Def Leppard: Let It Go/ Foolin
Journey: La Do Da
Keel: Rock n Roll Animal
Skid Row: Youth Gone Wild
Bon Jovi: Raise Your Hands/Love is War
Michael Jackson : Smooth Criminal
Joe Dolce: Shaddap You Face" (bad parenting ......oh well :lol)
Killer Dwarfs: Dirty Weapons
Unisonic: For The Kingdom
WASP: I Wanna Be Somebody
Gunners: Welcome To The Jungle/You Could Be Mine
KISS: I Stole Your Love/Detroit Rock City/Black Diamond
Lifeline: Scream
Pretty Maids: Rock The House
Q5: Let Go
Queensryche: Operation Mindcrime (the song)
Quiet Riot: Cum On Feel The Noise/BAd Boy
Steve Vai: The Audience Is Listening

Car travel is going to be a bit more fun from here on in............ :tup
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Post by: Bolsters on November 01, 2015, 08:21:19 PM: Better taste than I had at 7.
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Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2015, 09:09:21 PM: Some nice songs in there Brent.

Looks like I might have to check out that Joel Hoekstra album.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 01, 2015, 09:13:31 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on November 01, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
Better taste than I had at 7.

Ditto, although it was only a few years later I was getting into the good stuff (but without the internet or a cool parent for as much diversity).

I should check out the Hoekstra album. I was put off by the multiple vocalist thing as usual, but if it's just a couple of vocalists, I should at least give it a chance. I like both of those guy's vocals.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2015, 10:23:46 PM: When I was 7 I could probably only name one band..............the hottest band in the world ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 01, 2015, 10:29:20 PM: At least you made that one band a good one. :hat

When I was 7, I was probably listening to whatever happened to be on the Rage episodes we'd taped. I know Bohemian Rhapsody was on one of them.
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Post by: Bolsters on November 01, 2015, 10:33:51 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 01, 2015, 10:29:20 PM
When I was 7, I was probably listening to whatever happened to be on the Rage episodes we'd taped. I know Bohemian Rhapsody was on one of them.
Same here, although I used to get up early every week and watch Rage live.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 01, 2015, 10:42:54 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on November 01, 2015, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 01, 2015, 10:29:20 PM
When I was 7, I was probably listening to whatever happened to be on the Rage episodes we'd taped. I know Bohemian Rhapsody was on one of them.
Same here, although I used to get up early every week and watch Rage live.

Even as a young'un, waking up early was never my thing. :lol
I remember the first time I watched the Bohemian Rhapsody video, and thinking how long bizarre the song was. But I felt compelled to watch it again, and then I loved it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 02, 2015, 12:03:23 AM: Just came back from seeing Judas Priest. Show was awesome and I thought Rob sounded great and much better then the last time I saw them. New songs sounded great mixed in with the classics
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Post by: bl5150 on November 02, 2015, 12:08:14 AM: Nice JJ - recent vids/word of mouth suggests to me that Halford has upped his game in recent times and your feedback just confirms that. I didn't go to see them recently in Australia as they were part of a festival where I basically had zero interest in anyone else on the bill.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2015, 02:32:08 AM: That's a very solid list and :metal for the Reign of Fury, awesome album. Thought I could have got that into your roulette but should have known better.

Good to know the future of the all knowing Rock/ metal Aussie guru is safe in the hands of the next generation... And he'll grow out of the Michael Jackson! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2015, 04:07:21 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on November 01, 2015, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 01, 2015, 10:29:20 PM
When I was 7, I was probably listening to whatever happened to be on the Rage episodes we'd taped. I know Bohemian Rhapsody was on one of them.
Same here, although I used to get up early every week and watch Rage live.

I use to stay up on Saturday nights depending on who was guest programming, but taped it most of the time too. Rage was my introduction to real classic metal really.

I taped it one night when Marilyn Manson was guest programming and he was playing some cool stuff, but Aces High came on and impressed me. It was one of the coolest thing I had ever seen. But being an conforming 12 or 13 year old at the time and seeing these 80's guys draped in multicoloured spandex, I knew my friends would laugh and they wouldn't be deemed as 'cool.' About six months later or so they repeated it and I instantly thought, "Fuck, that Iron Maiden song will be on again." Saw it again and it changed my fucking life, it couldn't be ignored. From that point, never bowed or conformed haha, metal for life.
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Post by: TAC on November 02, 2015, 12:57:07 PM: The Lovely Mrs TAC and I had lunch at the Hard Rock in Boston today. I took a couple of pics.

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/040_zps3wlmlonl.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/040_zps3wlmlonl.jpg.html)

We sat at a table with Tony Iommi's jacket:
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/041_zpsvicwixod.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/041_zpsvicwixod.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/042_zps6q2jr69p.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/042_zps6q2jr69p.jpg.html)
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Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2015, 01:27:10 PM: Cool shit Tim. And fuck yeah at those jackets.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 02, 2015, 05:35:45 PM: sweet!!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 02, 2015, 05:43:08 PM: I'm interested in what Tim's jacket is covering up - can I make out an Autograph t-shirt there? :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2015, 05:47:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2015, 05:43:08 PM
I'm interested in what Tim's jacket is covering up - can I make out an Autograph t-shirt there? :biggrin:

Winger bro, Winger.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 02, 2015, 05:52:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 02, 2015, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2015, 05:43:08 PM
I'm interested in what Tim's jacket is covering up - can I make out an Autograph t-shirt there? :biggrin:

Winger bro, Winger.

Go back to the TAC roulette fore reference
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 04:06:34 AM: Frontiers Music Srl will release the new PRIMAL FEAR studio album, "Rulebreaker", on January 29, 2016. The effort will be made available in CD, deluxe CD/DVD and — in collaboration with Soulfood Music in Germany — on vinyl and a special super-limited vinyl edition featuring an eagle head on the vinyl.

"Rulebreaker" combines the strongest PRIMAL FEAR moments ever, with a well-balanced typical PRIMAL FEAR trademark riff vibe, crushing songs and some very ambitious musical journeys.

PRIMAL FEAR recently parted ways with Brazilian drummer Aquiles Priester (HANGAR, ANGRA) and replaced him with Francesco Jovino (U.D.O.). In addition, founding PRIMAL FEAR guitarist Tom Naumann — who has been touring with the group for the past couple of years years — has now officially rejoined the band as a full member.

Singer Ralf Scheepers says: "We have so much energy, fantastic melodies and a hell of a drum groove on each and every song. There is no doubt that the fans will love it as much as I do! And again we have achieved to combine bombastic and atmospheric orchestral sounds with soaring heavy metal riffs and licks, together with ear-splitting screams and also emotional sequences. We have kept the promise of being a heavy metal band with all the trademarks for which people love PRIMAL FEAR."

After the massive "Delivering The Black" world tour, PRIMAL FEAR started the songwriting in spring 2015 and recorded at Hansen Studios in Denmark, with producer Mat Sinner and engineer Jacob Hansen (VOLBEAT, PRETTY MAIDS, AMARANTHE). Mat Sinner adds: "We learned a lot during the 'Delivering The Black' sessions and the following world tour. We tried to put this know-how and all the positive energy into the songs and production of 'Rulebreaker'. Working the second time with Jacob Hansen and even recording in his studio, gave another dimension to our sound, plus the recording comeback of founding member Tom Naumann was the right move."

Classic and ultra-fresh PRIMAL FEAR have created riff-rockers like the album opener "Angels Of Mercy", and groove monsters "The End Is Near" and "Bullets And Tears", which hit the bulls-eye from the beginning. The album features another untamed speed killer "In Metal We Trust" and the metal anthem and title track "Rulebreaker". The melodic and unique ballad "The Sky Is Burning" shows a different side of PRIMAL FEAR with a new vibe and a monster chorus. And of course, PRIMAL FEAR included again an 11-minute plus prog metal tour de force entitled "We Walk Without Fear", spiced with big orchestral arrangements and complex sound designs.

"Rulebreaker" track listing:

01. Angels Of Mercy
02. The End Is Near
03. Bullets & Tears
04. Rulebreaker
05. In Metal We Trust
06. We Walk Without Fear
07. At War With The World
08. The Devil In Me
09. Constant Heart
10. The Sky Is Burning
11. Raving Mad
12. Final Call (bonus track; deluxe edition only)
13. Don't Say You've Never Been Warned (bonus track; deluxe edition only)

DVD (deluxe edition only):

* The End Is Near (video clip)
* Angels Of Mercy (video clip)
* Making Of "Rulebreaker"

PRIMAL FEAR is:

Ralf Scheepers - Vocals
Alex Beyrodt - Guitar
Magnus Karlsson – Guitar, Keyboards
Tom Naumann - Guitar
Francesco Jovino - Drums
Mat Sinner - Bass, Vocals

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/primalfearrulebreakercd_638_0.jpg)

How the hell can they top Delivering the Black? It's just not possible, is it?
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Post by: Evermind on November 03, 2015, 04:13:20 AM: I'm so ready for this.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2015, 04:15:28 AM: As seen in my roulette Primal Fear are capable of really impressing me , but I am yet to hear an album that I rate highly from start to finish (I only have 3 of their albums) . Hopefully this is the one.
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 04:22:04 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2015, 04:15:28 AM
As seen in my roulette Primal Fear are capable of really impressing me , but I am yet to hear an album that I rate highly from start to finish (I only have 3 of their albums) . Hopefully this is the one.

It's called Delivering the Black.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2015, 04:26:06 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 04:22:04 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2015, 04:15:28 AM
As seen in my roulette Primal Fear are capable of really impressing me , but I am yet to hear an album that I rate highly from start to finish (I only have 3 of their albums) . Hopefully this is the one.

It's called Delivering the Black.

haha..............loved the first track and really enjoyed a couple of others and found the rest pretty average/samey.

I guess we can expect to see a new , bigger version of the Primal Fear album cover each week in the albums thread as per tradition? :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 04:29:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2015, 04:26:06 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 04:22:04 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2015, 04:15:28 AM
As seen in my roulette Primal Fear are capable of really impressing me , but I am yet to hear an album that I rate highly from start to finish (I only have 3 of their albums) . Hopefully this is the one.

It's called Delivering the Black.

haha..............loved the first track and really enjoyed a couple of others and found the rest pretty average/samey.

I guess we can expect to see a new , bigger version of the Primal Fear album cover each week in the albums thread as per tradition? :lol

(https://media.tumblr.com/bcbb80613f0e413ef644a31359ed8bdf/tumblr_inline_mriykfmQJZ1qz4rgp.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 04:31:02 AM: Finally got a copy of the WASP and giving it a spin for the first time. The production is fabulous, great sound. Last Runaway is a really great track, I've grown to love it.

Miss You is fucking immense. Blackie has a knack of rewriting the Idol over and over, but makes it work, wonderful track.

Just up to Fallen Under now.
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Post by: TAC on November 03, 2015, 05:55:27 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 02, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 02, 2015, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2015, 05:43:08 PM
I'm interested in what Tim's jacket is covering up - can I make out an Autograph t-shirt there? :biggrin:

Winger bro, Winger.

Go back to the TAC roulette fore reference

:lol

Nah.. While I do have my DT Boston Opera House event T on, the shirt you guys see is my long sleeve Boston Bruins black shirt.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 03, 2015, 06:32:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 04:29:33 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2015, 04:26:06 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 04:22:04 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2015, 04:15:28 AM
As seen in my roulette Primal Fear are capable of really impressing me , but I am yet to hear an album that I rate highly from start to finish (I only have 3 of their albums) . Hopefully this is the one.

It's called Delivering the Black.

haha..............loved the first track and really enjoyed a couple of others and found the rest pretty average/samey.

I guess we can expect to see a new , bigger version of the Primal Fear album cover each week in the albums thread as per tradition? :lol

(https://media.tumblr.com/bcbb80613f0e413ef644a31359ed8bdf/tumblr_inline_mriykfmQJZ1qz4rgp.gif)

:metal

Primal Fuckin Fear
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Post by: TAC on November 03, 2015, 08:35:56 AM: I do like Primal Fear, but sometimes I find it tough to get through an entire Ralf Scheepers sung album. He kind of grates on me a little.
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Post by: Art on November 03, 2015, 08:45:56 AM: I really like the first and second Primal Fear records, and a good chunk of Nuclear Fire also, but everything after that seems kind of generic to me...but i will check the new record when released.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 03, 2015, 10:02:08 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 03, 2015, 05:55:27 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 02, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 02, 2015, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2015, 05:43:08 PM
I'm interested in what Tim's jacket is covering up - can I make out an Autograph t-shirt there? :biggrin:

Winger bro, Winger.

Go back to the TAC roulette fore reference

:lol

Nah.. While I do have my DT Boston Opera House event T on, the shirt you guys see is my long sleeve Boston Bruins black shirt.

Punching above your weight with Mrs TAC, nice one :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 03, 2015, 11:40:28 AM: :lol

:metal
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 03:05:57 PM: Quote from: Art on November 03, 2015, 08:45:56 AM
I really like the first and second Primal Fear records, and a good chunk of Nuclear Fire also, but everything after that seems kind of generic to me...but i will check the new record when released.

With Tom back in the band, I'd definitely check it out mate. He is perfect for PF.
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 03:27:41 PM: The new WASP is really fucking great. Impressive. It's the same stuff but there's still enough variety there to show that Blackie has really put in an effort with the songwriting. Miss You is one of the best ballads they have done, and Slaves is pretty damn epic. Nice grooves too, nothing really plods too much at all, and everything here keeps you interested.
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Post by: TAC on November 03, 2015, 03:28:57 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 03:27:41 PM
The new WASP is really fucking great. Impressive. It's the same stuff but there's still enough variety there to show that Blackie has really put in an effort with the songwriting. Miss You is one of the best ballads they have done, and Slaves is pretty damn epic. Nice grooves too, nothing really plods too much at all, and everything here keeps you interested.

Yeah. I gave it a listen a couple weeks back and really enjoyed it.

This is the post I made:

Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2015, 09:29:31 AM
So I just had a listen to WASP's Golgotha.

Damn, this is a pretty solid album. I haven't listened to anything new by them since 1989!
Some nice lead playing on this, whoever the guitarist is..

Two best songs IMO are Shotgun, which reminds me a ton of 80's WASP, and Slaves Of The New World Order.
Title track is pretty cool too.

I wasn't expecting to get this, and it may not be until Christmas, but I just might spring for it.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 03, 2015, 03:34:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 03:27:41 PM
The new WASP is really fucking great. Impressive. It's the same stuff but there's still enough variety there to show that Blackie has really put in an effort with the songwriting. Miss You is one of the best ballads they have done, and Slaves is pretty damn epic. Nice grooves too, nothing really plods too much at all, and everything here keeps you interested.

I believe Miss You was written for Crimson Idol and it shows. Great album.
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 03:37:18 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 03, 2015, 03:34:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 03:27:41 PM
The new WASP is really fucking great. Impressive. It's the same stuff but there's still enough variety there to show that Blackie has really put in an effort with the songwriting. Miss You is one of the best ballads they have done, and Slaves is pretty damn epic. Nice grooves too, nothing really plods too much at all, and everything here keeps you interested.

I believe Miss You was written for Crimson Idol and it shows. Great album.

Really?

But yeah, as I stated before, Blackie has a good knack of writing the Idol over and over but makes it interesting and fresh every time. The title track is good too, but Miss You is a home run. :metal

Fallen Under is a nice rocker that's a little different for the band too.
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Post by: ozzy554 on November 03, 2015, 03:37:42 PM: I think Miss You was written for Blackies Brother who passed away not too long ago. It does sound like a lost chapter from The Crimson Idol though.
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 03:41:12 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on November 03, 2015, 03:37:42 PM
I think Miss You was written for Blackies Brother who passed away not too long ago. It does sound like a lost chapter from The Crimson Idol though.

If that's the case, the emotion really shows, amazing song.
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Post by: TAC on November 03, 2015, 03:41:21 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2015, 05:34:13 AM
(https://s11.postimg.org/r5svs8u2b/IMG_1930.jpg)

Missed this the first time. Found it while looking for a certain post.

Very cool indeed.
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Post by: King Postwhore on November 03, 2015, 03:48:31 PM: Better get a cup though Brett.
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Post by: Art on November 04, 2015, 03:42:37 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 03:05:57 PM
Quote from: Art on November 03, 2015, 08:45:56 AM
I really like the first and second Primal Fear records, and a good chunk of Nuclear Fire also, but everything after that seems kind of generic to me...but i will check the new record when released.

With Tom back in the band, I'd definitely check it out mate. He is perfect for PF.

Yeah, he really fits perfectly. I saw them live on the Nuclear Fire tour and he was in the band that time, it was a great show!
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Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2015, 04:03:31 AM: Quote from: Art on November 04, 2015, 03:42:37 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 03, 2015, 03:05:57 PM
Quote from: Art on November 03, 2015, 08:45:56 AM
I really like the first and second Primal Fear records, and a good chunk of Nuclear Fire also, but everything after that seems kind of generic to me...but i will check the new record when released.

With Tom back in the band, I'd definitely check it out mate. He is perfect for PF.

Yeah, he really fits perfectly. I saw them live on the Nuclear Fire tour and he was in the band that time, it was a great show!

I think he's an incredible guitarist.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2015, 05:13:21 AM: Unfortunately that Reverence album isn't living up to the title track............half way through and so far it's a one song wonder. Not awful but pretty ho-hum.

EDIT Opened my mouth too early..........the 2nd half is much more consistent. Nothing brilliant but was on track for low 70's and ended up more around 80%. And btw the Jap bonus track is one of the better songs.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 04, 2015, 05:54:50 AM: Just listening now whilst England capitulate in the cricket again >:(

Yeah, it's ok, nothing special but that's the music they play and they do it well. As you say, 2nd half is better, they go a bit more "epic" with changes of pace. If I'd had the whole album when I was sending a track I may have gone with one of those tracks and not scored as well.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2015, 07:34:55 AM: First time I have checked out a pub gig guide in ages but Lord and Eyefear are playing a small gig down here in a few weeks for $15. fancy a trip down Kade? :lol Nobody I know down here would be interested.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 04, 2015, 09:34:06 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 04, 2015, 07:34:55 AM
First time I have checked out a pub gig guide in ages but Lord and Eyefear are playing a small gig down here in a few weeks for $15. fancy a trip down Kade? :lol Nobody I know down here would be interested.

I'd come with you if you could get rid of the spiders...
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Post by: Lowdz on November 04, 2015, 10:23:05 AM: Next Frontiers project. Sounds quite like the Joel Hoekstra but I like this one. Craig goldy has got better with age.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjAJJiCrKg&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 04, 2015, 02:10:42 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2015, 10:23:05 AM
Next Frontiers project. Sounds quite like the Joel Hoekstra but I like this one. Craig goldy has got better with age.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjAJJiCrKg&feature=youtu.be

You know what you're getting with all of these releases. All are solid, this one included.

I guess this is the singer that was with Red Dragon Cartel for a week (one of 14 singers). Good stuff.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2015, 06:39:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2015, 10:23:05 AM
Next Frontiers project. Sounds quite like the Joel Hoekstra but I like this one. Craig goldy has got better with age.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjAJJiCrKg&feature=youtu.be

The reunion show of Giuffria without Giuffria was interesting :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2015, 08:15:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2015, 05:54:50 AM
Just listening now whilst England capitulate in the cricket again >:(

:lol

Quote from: bl5150 on November 04, 2015, 07:34:55 AM
First time I have checked out a pub gig guide in ages but Lord and Eyefear are playing a small gig down here in a few weeks for $15. fancy a trip down Kade? :lol Nobody I know down here would be interested.

Fuck, that's a deal alright. Wrong season for holidays for me. >:(
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2015, 12:34:21 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2015, 10:23:05 AM
Next Frontiers project. Sounds quite like the Joel Hoekstra but I like this one. Craig goldy has got better with age.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjAJJiCrKg&feature=youtu.be

I dig it. Classic early '80s metal sound, solid song, and I like the vocals. Definitely checking this one out.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 05, 2015, 02:37:32 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 04, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2015, 10:23:05 AM
Next Frontiers project. Sounds quite like the Joel Hoekstra but I like this one. Craig goldy has got better with age.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjAJJiCrKg&feature=youtu.be

The reunion show of Giuffria without Giuffria was interesting :lol

Yeah, strange. Is there any other eponymous named band without the bloke they are named after in the band?
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Post by: Lowdz on November 05, 2015, 03:31:16 AM: I was never much of a fan of Ken tamplin though I have an album by his band Shout that's average. Here's an original track sung by the gorgeous gabriella guncikova who sings for TSO. Not a great song but she's got a great voice now the Eastern European accent is gone. Thought it might bring some ray of joy to your day as it did mine :heart :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 03:32:35 AM: When I realised that there was no link to your beautiful song it ruined my day actually :-[ ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on November 05, 2015, 03:37:56 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 03:32:35 AM
When I realised that there was no link to your beautiful song it ruined my day actually :-[ ;D

I do like to tease... In my defence I'm still not well :lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLfKCgX__DMDANE6XBG1ykb7D3eEC7RZx-&params=OAFIAVgB&v=dG5xv6h-mpw&mode=NORMAL
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 03:57:08 AM: Fuck, poor TMac, this is awful. Hopefully he can beat this.

https://www.facebook.com/tonymacalpineofficial/posts/10154331862134517:0
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Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 04:06:14 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 03:57:08 AM
Fuck, poor TMac, this is awful. Hopefully he can beat this.

https://www.facebook.com/tonymacalpineofficial/posts/10154331862134517:0

Damn......here's hoping he's strong enough and they got it early enough for a positive outcome.

Great to see all those music legends (and John 5 too :) ) put on that show for him.
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 04:10:43 AM: Yeah, and it says his wife was diagnosed with breast cancer in June. Good lord! Should be a good show though. I'd definitely purchase something too if I were there.

John 5 is okay. I think I have one album and it was alright, but he has never done much for me either. His country style playing though is really good. Great technique.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2015, 04:13:09 AM: Cancer has taken far too many people, including many great musicians. Colon cancer is a particularly nasty one, isn't it? I hope he beats it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 04:15:28 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 04:10:43 AM

John 5 is okay. I think I have one album and it was alright, but he has never done much for me either. His country style playing though is really good. Great technique.

I can't remember his country style but almost everything I have heard from him has made me wonder why he is so high profile . It says more about him than me but I'd rather listen to stuff I recorded just out of school than most of his stuff :lol I just don't hear the amazing talent there that many seem to.

At any other gig featuring Vai, Portnoy, Sheehan etc..... he should be serving drinks.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2015, 04:13:09 AM
Cancer has taken far too many people, including many great musicians. Colon cancer is a particularly nasty one, isn't it? I hope he beats it.

it is...............but like many cancer types it can be successfully managed if they have got it before it became metastatic (into the blood and moving elsewhere)
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 04:20:16 AM: And they he has been having treatment for a little while yet, and I remember at the start of all this it seems like he went and got checked very early. Fingers crossed, we don't need this.

And Brent, compared to the others performing, yeah I kinda agree, but he is very high profile. I guess maybe the novelty, like MAB! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 04:24:22 AM: Yeah- MAB (Michael Angelo batio for those who don't follow our lingo :lol ) is a technical monster in addition to his novelty value though. :P And c'mon..........the man was in Nitro , quite possibly the most legendary metal band of all time.
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 04:58:53 AM: I never really checked out Nitro to be honest, so you can add that to my roulette list if you like. haha.

MAB's solo stuff is actually not that bad. There's some boring shit, but there's a few songs that are actually pretty good. I have the X2 Again album, and I think that's all you need in regards to him.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 05:01:17 AM: Classic interview here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCWw1fQIvSo

OK - will add to your playlist and now we have just as much shit as before I dropped Autograph :tup

Their debut album was called OFR - Out Fucking Rageous :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 05, 2015, 05:26:09 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 04:15:28 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 04:10:43 AM

John 5 is okay. I think I have one album and it was alright, but he has never done much for me either. His country style playing though is really good. Great technique.

I can't remember his country style but almost everything I have heard from him has made me wonder why he is so high profile . It says more about him than me but I'd rather listen to stuff I recorded just out of school than most of his stuff :lol I just don't hear the amazing talent there that many seem to.

At any other gig featuring Vai, Portnoy, Sheehan etc..... he should be serving drinks.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2015, 04:13:09 AM
Cancer has taken far too many people, including many great musicians. Colon cancer is a particularly nasty one, isn't it? I hope he beats it.

it is...............but like many cancer types it can be successfully managed if they have got it before it became metastatic (into the blood and moving elsewhere)

I fancy hearing that Brent. My guitar playing was average at best, and these days is pretty shit as I don't get time to do it and the chops are gone.

I don't mind John 5 tbh but he's not in my top 50 probably.

Trac however has always been a favourite. Those first two albums still get regular attention from me. Hoping for the best for the guy.
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 02:52:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 05:01:17 AM
Their debut album was called OFR - Out Fucking Rageous :lol

That's possibly the greatest thing ever.
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Post by: TAC on November 05, 2015, 03:05:46 PM: I really had no recollection of Nitro.
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 03:06:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2015, 03:05:46 PM
I really had no recollection of Nitro.

TAC roulette resurrection then?
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Post by: TAC on November 05, 2015, 03:11:55 PM: :lol

After running mine, and then participating in Chad & Brent's, I am rouletted out!
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 03:25:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
:lol

After running mine, and then participating in Chad & Brent's, I am rouletted out!

You got mine early next year too. ;D
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Post by: TAC on November 05, 2015, 03:31:04 PM: Yeah, I have to rest up. And buy some more albums!!
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 03:40:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2015, 03:31:04 PM
Yeah, I have to rest up. And buy some more albums!!

I'm sure you've got plenty I don't know.
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Post by: TAC on November 05, 2015, 03:47:16 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2015, 03:31:04 PM
Yeah, I have to rest up. And buy some more albums!!

I'm sure you've got plenty I don't know.

We'll see. :)
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 04:04:36 PM: You'll be right buddy.
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 05:14:57 PM: Damn, Freefall or VP not even listed on the JB website. No chance of picking them up instore this weekend then. Hopefully can get the Stryper and will get the Hoekstra if I see it.

Amazon was good with my order this week, a little over a week. Express shipping will be even better.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 06:18:31 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 05, 2015, 05:26:09 AM

I fancy hearing that Brent. My guitar playing was average at best, and these days is pretty shit as I don't get time to do it and the chops are gone.

Stuff I recorded 20 years ago? :lol I'll see what I can do.........I have a lot of stuff on tape that needs to be tidied up and digitised. I think I have only done one track so far. Once I have finished moving etc....I'll upload something (briefly :lol ) to Youtube for you, as long as you don't mind a very shitty drum machine. It was a collaboration between me and some dude (we were both studying music together) who is now a producer and doesn't like his old work being put out there for everyone to pick on .

He's a real party pooper this guy - I wanted to call our EP Meltdown on The Edge of Insanity and he wouldn't be in it ;D
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 09:21:00 PM: We should collaborate on something Brent. :metal

I'll do an album with that name for sure!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 05, 2015, 09:44:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
:lol

After running mine, and then participating in Chad & Brent's, I am rouletted out!

You got mine early next year too. ;D

And Jay's!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 11:54:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 09:21:00 PM
We should collaborate on something Brent. :metal

I'll do an album with that name for sure!!

You'll have to teach me how to play again first :-\ Not sure I could deal with being shit all over again :lol I have an old mate who comes around occasionally , looks at my guitars and says "you know man , it's a fucking crime those guitars sitting there doing nothing". Every time I see him............first thing he says. :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 06, 2015, 03:16:33 AM: I've got a very nice drum set in my basement. Everyone that sees it asks "Do you play?" Um.. No! :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 03:56:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 05, 2015, 06:18:31 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 05, 2015, 05:26:09 AM

I fancy hearing that Brent. My guitar playing was average at best, and these days is pretty shit as I don't get time to do it and the chops are gone.

Stuff I recorded 20 years ago? :lol I'll see what I can do.........I have a lot of stuff on tape that needs to be tidied up and digitised. I think I have only done one track so far. Once I have finished moving etc....I'll upload something (briefly :lol ) to Youtube for you, as long as you don't mind a very shitty drum machine. It was a collaboration between me and some dude (we were both studying music together) who is now a producer and doesn't like his old work being put out there for everyone to pick on .

He's a real party pooper this guy - I wanted to call our EP Meltdown on The Edge of Insanity and he wouldn't be in it ;D

I started getting into recording about 13 yeas ago. Set up a recording studio in the attic then I met my partner and that was the end of that :lol my studio is now our bedroom.

I would like to hear your stuff, Kate's too. About the limit of my ability these days is some shitty blues jamming over a backing track.

And your mate's right. It's a fucking waste. You need to do it man :metal
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 06, 2015, 04:04:34 AM: In the mid 2000s I recorded 14 complete songs at home. I played guitar and bass and even sang on some of them, the drums were programmed. While it was real fun, only a few selected VIPs have heard them and it is better that it stays like that :biggrin:

I was never that good on guitar and the fact that I haven't touched it for nearly seven years certainly didn't improve my playing.

That said, it would be interesting to hear what you guys play/have played.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 04:13:15 AM: Just curious...............they've never done much for me but how do you guys feel about Motorhead's music?
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 04:20:17 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 03:56:33 AM
I would like to hear your stuff, Kate's too.

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/10MQ0/come-on-bro/image.jpg)

Auto correct Paul? You better say yes. ;D

Quote from: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 04:13:15 AM
Just curious...............they've never done much for me but how do you guys feel about Motorhead's music?

I have a few of their albums and they are okay, but never grabbed my attention for repeated listens. I guess 'meh' would cover my opinion on them.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 04:21:25 AM: My favourite Motorhead song is Killed By Death ..............couldn't give a stuff about the music but that's a bitchin' song title :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 04:58:03 AM: Turns out I own;

1916
Ace of Spades
Bomber
Inferno
Iron Fist
Kiss of Death
Live at Brixton 87
On Parole
We Are Motorhead

I remember liking 1916, Inferno and Ace of Spades the best. I think We Are Motorhead was alright too. Overkill was the one I always wanted to get, just never got around to it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 04:59:51 AM: if you have 9 albums from artists you think are "meh" then you're a lot more forgiving than me :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 05:03:29 AM: I told you, quite a few years ago I had a 'problem.' :lol And I'm not really joking around, it was at a stage that it was in fact an issue, like a drug addiction.

You can't talk Brent, surely?! :lol

Plus, Motorhead have almost 25 or so albums, so that's still well under 50%. :rollin
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 05:04:47 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 04:20:17 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 03:56:33 AM
I would like to hear your stuff, Kate's too.

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/10MQ0/come-on-bro/image.jpg)

Auto correct Paul? You better say yes. ;D

Quote from: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 04:13:15 AM
Just curious...............they've never done much for me but how do you guys feel about Motorhead's music?

I have a few of their albums and they are okay, but never grabbed my attention for repeated listens. I guess 'meh' would cover my opinion on them.

Oh ffs. Sorry mate. No worries about your gender here mate :lol

As for Motörhead, I do like their greatest hits. When I was getting into heavy music they were one of very few bands around. No Sleep til Hammersmith is a great live album. I wouldn't consider myself a fan and I haven't heard anything new since Killed By Death (which is a great song).

Checked for errors :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 05:06:50 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 05:04:47 AM
Oh ffs. Sorry mate. No worries about your gender here mate :lol

It's all good, I was just having a laugh. I got it all through school anyway, totally use to it. :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 06, 2015, 05:10:09 AM: Motorhead: I like them good enough though I have only two or three records. Ace Of Spades is the obvious classic and Kiss Of Death (a newer one from 2006) is surprisingly melodic.

But all in all they lack the variety that would make me buy more of their records.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 05:10:19 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 05:03:29 AM
I told you, quite a few years ago I had a 'problem.' :lol And I'm not really joking around, it was at a stage that it was in fact an issue, like a drug addiction.

You can't talk Brent, surely?! :lol

Plus, Motorhead have almost 25 or so albums, so that's still well under 50%. :rollin

Huh? All my CDs are awesome ;D

And one of the reasons that you've done so well in my roulette is that you've been great at picking great songs from bands I know but have written off based on sampling a few pretty average tracks. I am pretty quick to forget about bands after one "meh" album let alone nine. .

Problem? What problem?

(https://s23.postimg.org/h8uzt04bv/what_problem.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 05:12:01 AM: That ad I found kinda creepy as a kid but very awesome and well done, and fits perfectly.

It's true 9 album is fucking ludicrous.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 06, 2015, 05:16:02 AM: Just out of curiosity and while we're at it: How big is it?

Naturally I mean your music collection. I have close to 1.500 records (mostly CDs, some as digital albums only) but I think for some of you guys this would be just the weekend playlist.
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 05:17:42 AM: 1500 is pretty big and impressive. I keep a log and it stands at 2426. This doesn't include DVD's and any cd's that come with them. That's all physical copies though. I'm sure you have a lot more don't you Brent?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 05:31:36 AM: I'm within site of 6,000 albums from around 3000 artists I think (all melodic rock and metal basically)..................forgetting cassettes and vinyl. I would say that there's probably over 1000 I have barely (or not) listened to , so I have some catching up to do :lol And I have no idea why I even have most of the vinyl as I never played vinyl - some are very collectible but for most I likely couldn't help myself when I saw 'em for $ 2 second hand and liked the covers. Packed a few away today - never to be seen again but took a few photos. I think I know why I might have bought the Hurricane- Slave To The Thrill one but otherwise not sure ;D

Of those I would say around 2000 are CDs. I don't bother with CDs now except for my top few all time bands.

A few of the vinyls............

(https://s12.postimg.org/8ka8rbx4t/IMG_1938.jpg)(https://s12.postimg.org/imp0u2c1p/IMG_1940.jpg)

(https://s2.postimg.org/60tyh6qcp/IMG_1937.jpg)(https://s15.postimg.org/3o7zs5yaj/IMG_1939.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/vg9c5r0e1/IMG_1934.jpg)(https://s17.postimg.org/5kyp99nov/IMG_1942.jpg)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 06, 2015, 06:37:04 AM: I still have around a 100 records in my to-listen-to pile which is growing bigger and bigger. I just don't have the time I used to have when I was still young (aeons ago) :'(. Those are not yet counted in the 1500, to all of those I have listened at least enough times to judge it and sometimes till the vinyl or cd is worn thin :metal. Sure some of them are not as present as others.

All my vinyls from my youth I have now on cd, either transferred from said vinyl or newly bought and I sold my last vinyls some 15 years ago. I never bought cassettes, all the tapes I had were recorded from friend's vinyls and those that were worthy I have bought in cd since then.

And I was never one for collectible items. I sure like a nice or extraordinary packaging but it's very seldom that I am willing to spend the extra money.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 06:45:26 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 06, 2015, 06:37:04 AM
And I was never one for collectible items. I sure like a nice or extraordinary packaging but it's very seldom that I am willing to spend the extra money.

When I say "collectible" I don't mean a regular release with deluxe/"limited edition" packaging ...........I'm talking real collectibles ;) I have never bothered with special packaging etc......unless there were extra tracks or the edition was a genuine rarity and not just marketing hype....so not often.

The vast majority of my collectibles relate to Van Halen. I have a thing for Images and Words too (4 different editions and a JAP tour book :lol) Still had to squeeze a Van Halen vinyl into the photo though............12" Jump. :)

(https://s15.postimg.org/x2i3oz8y3/IMG_1936.jpg)
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 06, 2015, 07:20:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 05:14:57 PM
Damn, Freefall or VP not even listed on the JB website. No chance of picking them up instore this weekend then. Hopefully can get the Stryper and will get the Hoekstra if I see it.

Amazon was good with my order this week, a little over a week. Express shipping will be even better.

Dude... Spotify is your friend. They are both up there this morning. So is Hoekstra's 13.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 06, 2015, 07:21:07 AM: Don't worry Kade, I think we all have a "problem" lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 07:44:28 AM: Addiction, definitely. In the 90s when I struggled to find decent music locally I bought some shit just because I had to buy something new :biggrin: mushroom head and Cradle of Filth I'm looking at you :lol

I tend to go for MP3 these days because of space unless it's one of the Chosen Few or a special edition. I have about 2000 CDs, e few hundred vinyl and cassettes. Do a lot of my listening on Spotify and Apple Music when I'm not in the car.

Most of my CDs vinyl and cassettes are stored in the attic and getting to them is a total pain.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 06, 2015, 08:06:16 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 06, 2015, 07:21:07 AM
Don't worry Kade, I think we all have a "problem" lol

As I've often said, music is my one vice. I don't drink (much), smoke, gamble, party ... Music is where my money goes. Between audio, DVD, concerts, and merch, I'm easily dropping a couple grand a year.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 06, 2015, 08:13:34 AM: Paul- Mushroomhead & Cradle of Filth???? Yuck

And nothing wrong with a music addiction, not hurting anyone
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 08:28:16 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 06, 2015, 08:13:34 AM
Paul- Mushroomhead & Cradle of Filth???? Yuck

And nothing wrong with a music addiction, not hurting anyone

Indeed they were jj.
The Mushroomhead got a great review in classic rock (I think) where they totally forgot to mention the shouting - in fact they said what a great melodic voice the guy had. If only there was more of that and less Slipnot style shouting.

The CoF, well there was a song on kerrang channel that was good. Rest of the album was shit. It cured me from buying shit though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 06, 2015, 08:35:44 AM: We are all guilty of buying pure garbage lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 08:41:04 AM: No excuse these days with the chances to sample things first. I don't buy blind very often these days.

Back in the 90s I had to rely on the mini reviews in the brochures from A couple of specialist music shops I used by mail order, and chatting with the staff on the phone who soon got to know what I liked.
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Post by: Art on November 06, 2015, 09:07:36 AM: I just recently "freed" my self from the music-buying addiction.

I just felt kinda crazy buying CDs when i didn´t have a proper CD Player in my house anymore.

But i still have my collection, probably around 800-1000 CDs. It was a compulsion, really.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 01:09:13 PM: Rainbow lineup announced.

https://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2015-11-06/blackmore-s-touring-lineup-revealed

Not heard of the singer as far as I know.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eJZYvHRVKE8

Video of singer in action. Decent voice but accent Islington to be off putting for Rainbow
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Post by: TAC on November 06, 2015, 01:33:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 04:21:25 AM
My favourite Motorhead song is Killed By Death ..............couldn't give a stuff about the music but that's a bitchin' song title :lol

Killed By Death is awesome! I love that song.

I haven't bought a new Motorhead album since 1916. I do like a lot of their stuff, but Lemmy does grate on me after awhile.

My favorite album of theirs is probably Orgasmatron. I also love Rock n Roll and Another Perfect Day. I loved the Brian Robertson era, including the King Biscuit live album with an awesome version of Shine.

Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 06, 2015, 05:10:09 AM
But all in all they lack the variety that would make me buy more of their records.

I've sampled a lot of their more recent albums, and I must say, they are all at least solid. But with Motorhead, I just don't think there'd be enough replayability to warrant a purchase.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 06, 2015, 01:52:50 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2015, 08:41:04 AM
No excuse these days with the chances to sample things first. I don't buy blind very often these days.

Back in the 90s I had to rely on the mini reviews in the brochures from A couple of specialist music shops I used by mail order, and chatting with the staff on the phone who soon got to know what I liked.

Yeah no excuses for buying something without sampling beforehand.

Obviously for me there are still some bands that I would buy without hesitation and not hearing anything before hand (Maiden, Saxon, Primal Fear, Accept etc).

But in the past I've bought albums just because the album cover looked cool. That wouldnt happen again lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 06, 2015, 02:41:16 PM: One of my blind buys from the early 90s was Images & Words, bought only because my sister's friend said that this band called Dream Theater was good. That compensates for a lot of not so good blind buys.

Nowadays I only buy discs from my favorite bands without hearing a note. Everything else gets a pre-listen somewhere. And nowadays I can sometimes wait for the record to drop in price after a year or two after it's release date before I buy it. That wouldn't have happened like ten years ago. Back then I needed everything on the day it came out, no matter what price it was.
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 03:36:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 05:31:36 AM
I'm within site of 6,000 albums from around 3000 artists I think (all melodic rock and metal basically)..................forgetting cassettes and vinyl. I would say that there's probably over 1000 I have barely (or not) listened to , so I have some catching up to do :lol

And I have a problem? :rollin

Quote from: jingle.boy on November 06, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 06, 2015, 07:21:07 AM
Don't worry Kade, I think we all have a "problem" lol

As I've often said, music is my one vice. I don't drink (much), smoke, gamble, party ... Music is where my money goes. Between audio, DVD, concerts, and merch, I'm easily dropping a couple grand a year.

I'm dropping that, plus more. But yeah, I have no other vices either. A few supplements but that's it really.

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 06, 2015, 07:21:07 AM
Don't worry Kade, I think we all have a "problem" lol

:tup

Quote from: jingle.boy on November 06, 2015, 07:20:29 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2015, 05:14:57 PM
Damn, Freefall or VP not even listed on the JB website. No chance of picking them up instore this weekend then. Hopefully can get the Stryper and will get the Hoekstra if I see it.

Amazon was good with my order this week, a little over a week. Express shipping will be even better.

Dude... Spotify is your friend. They are both up there this morning. So is Hoekstra's 13.

Damn, gotta get my ass onto that!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2015, 03:58:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2015, 03:36:35 PM

And I have a problem? :rollin

Yeah but my problem is too much awesome stuff , not 9 discs per meh artist :neverusethis:

Most of my rubbish is from back in the 90's (and there was no shortage of rubbish in the 90's) when I was doing detective work all round the world looking for something decent and had to take chances ordering imports based on word of mouth/reviews etc........no sampling/internet etc..... but I stopped at one disc pretty quick :lol

But then you would turn up the odd gem (like the debut Vanden Plas) and it would all be worth it.......mostly.

Bodybuilding "supplements" can be an expensive habit too mate :lol
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Post by: gazinwales on November 07, 2015, 01:57:19 PM: Wow and I thought that I was a music addict :metal
Music is my only vice, I do not drink, smoke or gamble.
I was stupid enough to sell 500 CD's around the mid to late 1990's.
Now my collection is around 2500, plus vinyls.

But like Brent said, back in those pre-internet days, there were no samples, just reviews to rely on.
I bought many duds, but not anymore, although I have a handful of bands that I will buy blindly (Moonsorrow, Nightwish, Dark Tranquillity and Amorphis)
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2015, 03:13:26 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/axel-rudi-pell-to-release-game-of-sins-album-in-january/

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/axelrudipellgameofsins.jpg)

Fuck, another ARP album. I'll check it out but I hope he can change it up a little, it's getting pretty stale.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 08, 2015, 03:41:25 AM: it was getting stale in 1998 :lol He still pulls off a few good songs and he has a great singer but yeah......change it up a bit .
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2015, 03:47:29 AM: Circle of the Oath was actually pretty damn good, but the last one, Into the Storm I think it was called, didn't do anything for me. Dunno if I'm just not into his stuff that much anymore.
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Post by: Evermind on November 08, 2015, 03:51:54 AM: I agree, it's like he's basically releasing the same album all over again. I'll check it out though.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2015, 05:36:09 AM: Quote from: Evermind on November 08, 2015, 03:51:54 AM
I agree, it's like he's basically releasing the same album all over again. I'll check it out though.

This. I didn't get into ARP until Kade dropped them on my in my first roulette. I got most of the discog, but there ain't a lot of variety. It's pretty decent stuff, but the same thing over and over again. Into the Storm was pretty decent, but I think I only went to it 2-3 times. You know what you're gonna get with ARP, so there's really no sense in investing much time/money with him when we've heard it all before.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 08, 2015, 06:42:11 AM: I haven't heard much of his new material but I liked what I heard when Rob Rock and JSS were on the vocals
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Post by: TAC on November 08, 2015, 06:49:39 AM: I have most of his discog too but I don't go to it very often. Nothing wrong with it. It's just hard to be wowed at this point.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 08, 2015, 07:00:59 AM: His first solo album is still my favourite, but yeah, he has become a cliche of himself, you know exactly hat's coming.
Quality songs every time though, and a great vocalist.
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2015, 08:06:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 08, 2015, 06:49:39 AM
I have most of his discog too but I don't go to it very often. Nothing wrong with it. It's just hard to be wowed at this point.

I think that's the perfect description actually.
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Post by: TAC on November 09, 2015, 02:14:28 PM: Whitford/St. Holmes tour.
https://bravewords.com/news/whitford-st-holmes-featuring-aerosmith-guitarist-brad-whitford-and-former-ted-nugent-vocalist-derek-st-holmes-announce-fall-tour-new-album

I actually had their album when I was a kid. It wasn't very good though.

Also, I would have never in a million years recognized Derek St. Holmes.
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 03:50:47 AM: Primal Fear trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11CymtATS-c

Fuck yeah, sounds nice and heavy. Production sounds very strong once again.

:metal :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2015, 04:16:25 AM: The PF sounds pretty much as expected - hope there's some variety on it. That's the key for me - I like that style and I like Scheepers , I just need some varied melodic ideas over the course of the album

I posted the new Millennial Reign in the albums thread.................getting lots of good reviews around the traps. Second rate stuff IMHO.......has potential but the whole thing is just missing something (finish, musicianship)
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 04:17:49 AM: Is there anyone in this band worth mentioning?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2015, 04:20:51 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 04:17:49 AM
Is there anyone in this band worth mentioning?

Nope...........but if I ignored bands without a big name I would miss most of my best finds. But this one ain't one of them .

Only reason I mentioned it is that it seems to be getting a fair bit of publicity/strong press.
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 04:26:09 AM: I guess cause I've made the conscious decision to not check out new stuff for a while, unless they have somebody in the band I'm not a fan of is the only reason I ask.

The roulette will change that. ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2015, 04:42:25 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 03:50:47 AM
Primal Fear trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11CymtATS-c

Fuck yeah, sounds nice and heavy. Production sounds very strong once again.

:metal :metal :metal

Production sounds meatier than the last one. Better drum sound, not as tinny on the guitars (although the last one wasn't bad either for a modern metal album). I quite like it.
Not enough of a snippet to judge though, but it's promising. Every time I've checked out Primal Fear, I haven't minded the style, the songwriting has just never quite grabbed me melodically.
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 04:57:13 AM: I'm surprised at your comments Blob, hopefully they can surprise you. Delivering the Black does have amazing production for a modern metal album I agree, sounds great. This does sound nice and full, but it sounds like the guitars are tuned lower again which would help.

Really looking forward to this. With Tom back in the band, it could take them to another level again. Don't see how they can top DTB but I'm sure we'll get a cracker of an album.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2015, 05:00:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 04:57:13 AM
I'm surprised at your comments Blob, hopefully they can surprise you. Delivering the Black does have amazing production for a modern metal album I agree, sounds great. This does sound nice and full, but it sounds like the guitars are tuned lower again which would help.

I'm surprised at my comments too. :biggrin: I'm giving the last one another listen through just to give it a fair chance. It's an enjoyable enough listen, not sure if it will stick yet.
The production is nice, but the drums on the new album sound punchier and less of that obvious triggered sound, and the guitars are fuller and meatier. This is still top of the heap as far as Frontiers goes (not that that's saying much on its own, but yeah).
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Post by: Bolsters on November 10, 2015, 05:09:05 AM: I still need to go through the older Primal Fear albums. So far I'm only familiar with the Magnus Karlsson stuff.
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Post by: Art on November 10, 2015, 05:27:28 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on November 10, 2015, 05:09:05 AM
I still need to go through the older Primal Fear albums. So far I'm only familiar with the Magnus Karlsson stuff.

Check out the first three, IMHO, their best stuff. Jaws of Death is a monster of a record.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 10, 2015, 06:22:28 AM: Primal Fear can absolutely do no wrong in my book. The trailer is brief, but still kicks ass
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2015, 08:14:27 AM: New Voodoo Circle song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXcqr5DSo9A

Are they pulling a Glen Hughes with the two vocalist thing? :lol I love the style, the song is ok.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2015, 08:21:34 AM: That is quite good , if a bit too obvious.............Doug Aldrich styles rhythms and then John Sykes pops in for the solo :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2015, 08:28:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 10, 2015, 08:21:34 AM
That is quite good , if a bit too obvious.............Doug Aldrich styles rhythms and then John Sykes pops in for the solo :lol

I actually love the blatant-ness of this project. I know what I'm getting, and it's something I like. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2015, 09:15:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 10, 2015, 08:21:34 AM
That is quite good , if a bit too obvious.............Doug Aldrich styles rhythms and then John Sykes pops in for the solo :lol

I'm fine when they play n the style of Whitesnake, but when they borrow riffs and melodies it gets a bit much. This is fine, and David Readman does a great Coverdale, better than the man himself has in 30 years.

Thought it was pretty much straight from 1987, riff and solo, with Doug's rhythm sound maybe. That solo is pure Sykes though. Again, it gets a bit close to downright copying for comfort.
They leave me in a bit of conflict I guess.
Good stuff though.
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 02:49:04 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on November 10, 2015, 05:09:05 AM
I still need to go through the older Primal Fear albums. So far I'm only familiar with the Magnus Karlsson stuff.

They are pretty much all killer. Seven Seals, Devil's Ground, Black Sun, Nuclear Fire, the debut, all brilliant.
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 02:58:57 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2015, 08:14:27 AM
New Voodoo Circle song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXcqr5DSo9A

Are they pulling a Glen Hughes with the two vocalist thing? :lol I love the style, the song is ok.

This band is sort of pissing me off now. The last album was really quite good even though there were numerous Whitesnake blatant rip offs. I lived with it and really enjoyed it actually, but this is them being a tribute band without saying it.

Don't get me wrong it's a great song and good performances, but fuck guys, lay off a bit. And fucking lol at that Sykes solo. :rollin
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Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2015, 03:17:09 PM: Having a listen to the Scorpions 50th anniversary remastered and they sound pretty good.
I'm thinking of getting the Blackout one which has a live did, but wonder if the World Wide live is worth getting for the did. It's unclear as to whether it's a live show, it says a documentary. Anyone got it?
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Post by: TAC on November 10, 2015, 03:23:39 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 10, 2015, 03:17:09 PM
Having a listen to the Scorpions 50th anniversary remastered and they sound pretty good.
I'm thinking of getting the Blackout one which has a live did, but wonder if the World Wide live is worth getting for the did. It's unclear as to whether it's a live show, it says a documentary. Anyone got it?

Is it the same documentary that was released when WWL was released the first time?

I just saw that Taken By Force is being released. I would love to see live show from that era. Where are the DVD contents detailed? Anywhere?
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Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2015, 03:44:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 10, 2015, 03:17:09 PM
Having a listen to the Scorpions 50th anniversary remastered and they sound pretty good.
I'm thinking of getting the Blackout one which has a live did, but wonder if the World Wide live is worth getting for the did. It's unclear as to whether it's a live show, it says a documentary. Anyone got it?

Is it the same documentary that was released when WWL was released the first time?

I just saw that Taken By Force is being released. I would love to see live show from that era. Where are the DVD contents detailed? Anywhere?

I was just going by what was in the blurb on Amazon. I believe it is the documentary that was available on vhs. I've never seen in but I'd be more interested in the live show that comes with Blackout.
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Post by: TAC on November 10, 2015, 03:48:56 PM: Oh yeah, so would it. And everything that came before Blackout.
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2015, 05:39:38 PM: RIP Phil Taylor...
https://bravewords.com/news/former-motorhead-drummer-phil-philthy-animal-taylor-dead-at-61
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2015, 06:03:25 PM: That's terrible news.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2015, 06:06:55 PM: Sad news. As a band they never did much for me but a lot of the enjoyment in metal (to borrow from Jon Oliva) is "the characters" and he was sure one of them.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 12, 2015, 09:35:23 PM: sad news
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Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2015, 04:36:28 AM: Sad news indeed. Live fast, die young indeed. I used to love his drumming. I liked Motörhead when I was first getting into metal and bands were few and far between. I outgrew them pretty quickly and haven't heard anything after about 1983.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2015, 07:47:12 AM: I'm always wary of Erik Martensson and his samey writing but this Nordic Union project (him and Ronnie Atkins from Pretty Maids singing) could be worth a listen..........coming in January.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2015, 03:44:31 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2015, 07:47:12 AM
I'm always wary of Erik Martensson and his samey writing but this Nordic Union project (him and Ronnie Atkins from Pretty Maids singing) could be worth a listen..........coming in January.

Whoa, what the fuck, do tell? Sounds like a wet dream to me.
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2015, 03:52:49 AM: Just checked out the details, could be interesting. Will be a blind purchase for me. Interesting combination too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2015, 05:05:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 15, 2015, 03:52:49 AM
Just checked out the details, could be interesting. Will be a blind purchase for me. Interesting combination too.

Agreed... but I'll sample on Spotify first. Should be a good one.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 16, 2015, 06:13:39 AM: New Primal Fear song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLRjJQCqCeo

Not bad. Not bad at all.
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Post by: Art on November 16, 2015, 06:43:20 AM: This song is very cool! They have 3 guitar players now? :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2015, 07:25:05 AM: No surprise, sounds awesome
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2015, 07:33:08 AM: Yeah... that was hawt.
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Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2015, 04:41:53 PM: That song is in beast mode. Fucking great heavy riffs. The verse is Running in the Dust though. The whole thing has an amazing groove though. Songwriting and guitars are all Karlsson. He really has taken control of this band. I hope we see a few songs with a lot of guitar interplay between the three of them. Tom is an amazing lead player.

Quote from: Art on November 16, 2015, 06:43:20 AM
This song is very cool! They have 3 guitar players now? :metal

Tom who was the bands original guitarist has rejoined. Karlsson will not tour and is a studio member only so to speak.
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2015, 05:55:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 16, 2015, 04:41:53 PM
That song is in beast mode. Fucking great heavy riffs.

Yes! :metal

I should really like this band more than I do. Not that I don't like them. I think they will be one of my New Year's resolution bands. I have 16:6, Delivering The Black, and Unbreakable, but they've never really caught on and held my attention.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2015, 06:03:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2015, 05:55:23 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 16, 2015, 04:41:53 PM
That song is in beast mode. Fucking great heavy riffs.

Yes! :metal

I should really like this band more than I do. Not that I don't like them. I think they will be one of my New Year's resolution bands. I have 16:6, Delivering The Black, and Unbreakable, but they've never really caught on and held my attention.

I prefer the newer stuff. Delivering the Black and Unbreakable are excellent. 16:6 and Seven Seals are ok. Other than that, I just have the compilation Metal is Forever
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2015, 06:10:42 PM: The best compliment I can give Primal Fear is that they are the best 80's heavy metal band ever, that isn't from the 80s.
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2015, 06:27:29 PM: I felt that way about early Hammerfall.
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Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2015, 07:20:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2015, 06:27:29 PM
I felt that way about early Hammerfall.

Totally.

Even though Delivering the Black is by far my fav from the band, Seven Seals, Devil's Ground and Black Sun are not far behind. Delivering the Black aside, I'd much prefer the older stuff.

Check out those three Tim.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2015, 08:44:02 PM: I don't have it all but I prefer the older stuff as a rule.

This new song is solid but with 3 guitarists I was expecting a bit more going on ............sounds like they came up with one chord each ;D Pretty "by the numbers" for mine.
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Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2015, 08:52:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2015, 08:44:02 PM
This new song is solid but with 3 guitarists I was expecting a bit more going on

This was my only single issue with the song. Other than that I love, crunchy, heavy and groovy.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 16, 2015, 08:56:49 PM: This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.
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Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2015, 09:02:58 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 16, 2015, 08:56:49 PM
This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.

They will only have 2 guitarists in a live setting.

I think this is the only reason why they are a 3 guitar band now. Karlsson doesn't want to tour but is a crucial part of the band at the moment and Tom obviously needed the work and seemed to like playing with the band live again I guess. Pure convenience, not for a 3 way attack. I'd like more from 3 of them on record, but I'm not expecting major things they can't reproduce live either.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2015, 09:04:03 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 16, 2015, 08:56:49 PM
This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.

I didn't mean in terms of blazing guitarwork all over the place Blob..........more some melody/rhythm ideas that I haven't heard a zillion times before. Sure - sometimes a single can be "simple" on purpose , but it also often has a very memorable chorus or something that makes it work best as the single.

For me this is just PF production line stuff (which is still solid) , but they have always been a little hit and miss for me. When they hit , they hit big (like JJ's roulette song) but they miss a lot with me where they don't seem to with most of the regulars in here, which is cool. I had a listen to Nuclear Fire the other day and I reckon I liked most of the songs on that better than this one and there were a few rippers that I liked much better than this , or just about any of their recent material really.
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Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2015, 09:22:49 PM: That's why I was surprised Jason got a 10 with his submission. He picked very well on that occasion.

I'm with Blob though I guess. I don't want too much going on for the sake of it, and IMO, the riffing here is strong and doesn't need layers or melodies or anything. There's also a chance this could be an edit, like When Death Comes Knocking. Doubt it cause there's no bonus track I guess.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 16, 2015, 09:46:11 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 16, 2015, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 16, 2015, 08:56:49 PM
This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.

They will only have 2 guitarists in a live setting.

I think this is the only reason why they are a 3 guitar band now. Karlsson doesn't want to tour but is a crucial part of the band at the moment and Tom obviously needed the work and seemed to like playing with the band live again I guess. Pure convenience, not for a 3 way attack. I'd like more from 3 of them on record, but I'm not expecting major things they can't reproduce live either.

In that case, I'd say even less reason to utilize 3 guitars too often unless necessary. Seems like a bit of a weird situation though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2015, 11:07:07 PM: What do you guys think of the new drummer? What's his background?
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2015, 04:07:46 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 16, 2015, 09:46:11 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 16, 2015, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 16, 2015, 08:56:49 PM
This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.

They will only have 2 guitarists in a live setting.

I think this is the only reason why they are a 3 guitar band now. Karlsson doesn't want to tour but is a crucial part of the band at the moment and Tom obviously needed the work and seemed to like playing with the band live again I guess. Pure convenience, not for a 3 way attack. I'd like more from 3 of them on record, but I'm not expecting major things they can't reproduce live either.

In that case, I'd say even less reason to utilize 3 guitars too often unless necessary. Seems like a bit of a weird situation though.

It's definitely a unique situation. Magnus just doesn't seem like a touring type of guy. I don't think he's ever done a full tour with them since he's been with the band. That's how Alex came onto the scene, he was Magnus' fill on the 16.6 tour I believe.

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 16, 2015, 11:07:07 PM
What do you guys think of the new drummer? What's his background?

The drums on this track sound amazing. Played with UDO for ten years and played on the last Hardline I believe. Seems like a fine replacement.
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2015, 04:30:49 AM: I thought this new song sounded heavier than normal too. It's tuned down to C. PF have been playing in D since Seven Seals. I'm not sure if they have ever gone this low before.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 17, 2015, 09:11:06 AM: Last In Line first track, the Viv Campbell, app ice, Bain DIO tribute. It's ok I guess not setting my world on fire. No fireworks from Viv, Def Lep may have fire out.

Singer lacks range on this frack, it's all very samey.

https://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2015-11-17/last-in-line-launch-devil-in-me-video
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 17, 2015, 09:16:32 AM: I really like the singer, and he actually has better range than Dio (although nobody has the power of Dio), and I love the production and the style, but unfortunately this song did nothing for me. It's ok, but nothing standout. It's like AC/DC trying to write a Sabbath song.

I'm still excited to hear the rest of the album, but this song misses the mark.
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Post by: Art on November 17, 2015, 09:38:32 AM: The singer sounds more like Glenn Hughes than Dio to me.

It´s all very well done, but the song in itself it´s just ok, nothing special. But i´ll check out the rest of the record.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 17, 2015, 11:24:24 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 17, 2015, 09:16:32 AM
I really like the singer, and he actually has better range than Dio (although nobody has the power of Dio), and I love the production and the style, but unfortunately this song did nothing for me. It's ok, but nothing standout. It's like AC/DC trying to write a Sabbath song.

I'm still excited to hear the rest of the album, but this song misses the mark.

I just felt he needed to go higher at points in the song and had just... Didnt
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2015, 02:58:32 PM: I really like the singer but, but the song is pretty shit IMO. Still will check it out for sure.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 17, 2015, 09:16:32 AM
It's like AC/DC trying to write a Sabbath song.

That's exactly what it's like, well done.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 17, 2015, 06:24:11 PM: Song seems a little flat, but I'll still check it out further.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 17, 2015, 07:54:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 17, 2015, 11:24:24 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 17, 2015, 09:16:32 AM
I really like the singer, and he actually has better range than Dio (although nobody has the power of Dio), and I love the production and the style, but unfortunately this song did nothing for me. It's ok, but nothing standout. It's like AC/DC trying to write a Sabbath song.

I'm still excited to hear the rest of the album, but this song misses the mark.

I just felt he needed to go higher at points in the song and had just... Didnt

He went higher in (I think) the second verse. Hopefully he goes a bit more balls to the wall in other tracks. I want to hear some faster tracks like Stand Up And Shout or I Speed At Night with some killer vocals.
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2015, 07:57:25 PM: Sounds like they really have the potential to do songs like Shout or I Speed at Night. Hopefully we get it and it's not just all mid paced plodders.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 17, 2015, 08:02:46 PM: Given the name of the band, I'd be more than happy for them to do an album of blatant Dio rips. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2015, 08:11:23 PM: Yeah, totally. It would be better than what they have presented here anyway.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 17, 2015, 09:22:46 PM: I just listened to the Last In Line . I don't mind it..........doesn't bring back any real Dio vibes but I suppose the name is more about the players than the style.

Pace wise it's definitely one of my old "plodders" - when I was playing and I came across something like this that I had to play I felt like I was channeling Yngwie Malmsteen. I.......cannot............play..........that..............slow. ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 17, 2015, 09:29:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 17, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
I just listened to the Last In Line . I don't mind it..........doesn't bring back any real Dio vibes but I suppose the name is more about the players than the style.

I'm surprised Frontiers didn't chain them up in the studio and say WRITE HOLY DIVER AGAIN.
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2015, 09:33:21 PM: Come on, Frontiers aren't that bad. ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 17, 2015, 09:40:31 PM: Prove it. :P
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Post by: bl5150 on November 17, 2015, 09:47:11 PM: I'm surprised all the songs weren't co-writes with Alessandro Delvecchedio :P
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2015, 09:50:45 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 17, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
I'm surprised all the songs weren't co-writes with Alessandro Delvecchedio :P

He is certainly Frontiers current poster boy. :lol

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 17, 2015, 09:40:31 PM
Prove it. :P

Ouch. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 17, 2015, 09:54:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 17, 2015, 09:50:45 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 17, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
I'm surprised all the songs weren't co-writes with Alessandro Delvecchedio :P

He is certainly Frontiers current poster boy. :lol

Yeah = he's doing lead vocals on some of their projects now too. Hopefully the little upgrade I gave his name will help him with that.
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Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2015, 09:55:38 PM: Haha, I missed that.
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Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2015, 04:28:07 AM: Another Voodoo Circle song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SksbrlGFkyI

This is a good one. No direct Snake ripoffs which I like, I'll purchase this one now.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 19, 2015, 05:50:29 AM: DON'T BREAK MY HEEEEEART AGAIN

Nope, still pretty Snakey. :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2015, 09:11:41 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 19, 2015, 05:50:29 AM
DON'T BREAK MY HEEEEEART AGAIN

Nope, still pretty Snakey. :biggrin:

Yup, blobs right. That groove is DBMHA. Rest of the song is snakey without directly ripping anything off. I can cope with that.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 19, 2015, 09:27:23 AM: I got more of a Deep Purple MK III vibe from the first single though, so I think this will be more vintage Whitesnake/DP than 1987 like the last one. It's all good to me, as long as the music is solid.
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Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2015, 03:32:19 PM: I didn't pick that up. I knew it must have been too original to be true. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 22, 2015, 07:03:34 PM: Okay folks...........serious thread bizznezz. :xbones

I have a few things I am going to be gradually adding to the thread - now that my roulette is over and things are settling down a little for me (after this weekend) :

1) I am about to start gradually indexing all the “Best Of” lists (years and bands) and placing links in the OP for easy future reference for anyone that feels the need.

2) I will get onto finishing off the 80s at some point soonish...............we still need to do the best of lists for 1988 and 1989 but after that I am not sure it’s worth it. Each list takes a lot of time and the 90’s ain’t worth my time :lol

3) Over the next year I will try and get through plenty more “best of” lists for some of our favourite bands and maybe also a Top 100 Guitarists (in terms of influence on me , not rating skillz )

One idea I am toying with for 2016 is a semi-regular podcast for this thread – nothing I intend taking anywhere other than you guys (and my sister) .........so I’m aiming for a huge audience of about half a dozen, which is about perfect given my confidence in my DJ skills ::) . If you guys like the idea then it might happen every 2 to 4 weeks depending on how life is treating me at the time.

My son and I like to do little “projects” and his interest in music is really taking off at the moment . I only just gave him his latest mix CD and he is already in my office planning the playlist for the next and sampling my collection. Which gave me an idea.............I don’t know about you guys but I really miss the ability to listen to a radio show where the host is really in sync with my taste and I thought this could be a cool project for me and my son Ben , at the same time as giving you guys a podcast that plays back to back hard rock and metal classics , while also exposing you to some new bands from the depths of my collection. Discovering new bands via radio was awesome "back in the day" but is a distant memory for me and even though that won't apply to me here I will enjoy listening to it and putting it together anyway. Another idea I have is to revisit the “best of” lists (including upcoming ones) and turn those into podcasts too .

Over the years I have been told numerous times that my collection and enthusiasm for the music would be ideal to run a hard rock/metal radio show. The trouble is that it would be hard to find the time or generate an audience and then if there was any money to be made I have zero wish to worry about royalties and other legalities. But a podcast for your mates doesn’t present those sorts of legal/accounting issues. The other issue is that I have a pretty average voice/demeanour for radio – I have a deep voice but I am too softly spoken/laid back (the mic seems to magnify that effect) and it sounds like I’m a budding hypnotist or something. :-[ I did appear on a radio program or two back in the day on community radio but more as the guy the DJ could have a chat to for some trivia/content and in that situation I did great , but I’m generally not the guy who initiates conversation or an expert at talking shit , so I’m a pretty poor choice for a DJ. :lol

Anyway...........I will do my best and as I hit my stride I expect I will become a bit louder and more confident :hat .

This idea has literally taken 24 hrs to go from being a vague thought (not expecting to be able to do it at all) to me researching , learning the software basics and recording a two hour show for you. I probably appear for a total of a couple of minutes , I think I sounded a bit better by the end of the show and the coolness factor goes up 200% when Ben introduces the last segment - he's a natural. :metal It’s all pretty rough around the edges but for a technophobe I think I have done a pretty good job for one day’s on the job learning.........even if I do say so myself. :angel:

Let me know what you think about the idea and , if you end up taking a listen, if you liked the mix of songs.......or have any ideas/requests.....aside from getting a new DJ :P. I reckon I got the mix about right to keep most of the regulars in here reasonably happy. All I ask is that if you enjoy the podcast and want some more that you make a post in this thread thanking Ben . He’ll get a huge kick out of that :tup And I will put in a bit more than 24 hrs effort into the second one. If there’s no real interest from you guys then I’ll take no offence and give it the ass .....or keep doing it with Ben anyway without posting.

Here's the first DTF hard rock/metal podcast - just over 2 hrs in 320 kpbs mp3 so you can listen pretty much anywhere with good quality sound...........it goes without saying that a lot of the voice overs etc.....are not intended to be taken seriously , but there to give it a bit of a radio show feel for Ben. I won't do a list of artists as part of the joy of radio is not knowing what will be played ;)

Enjoy.................I hope.

https://mega.nz/#!WV0nFBba!mFUfjV-xqzSS9brPbOulj29RHRkyZbcqaDGLHZPsijQ
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2015, 07:05:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 22, 2015, 07:03:34 PM
2) I will get onto finishing off the 80s at some point soonish...............we still need to do the best of lists for 1988 and 1989 but after that I am not sure it’s worth it. Each list takes a lot of time and the 90’s ain’t worth my time :lol

Go up to '92, then call it a day. :lol Plenty of great rock stuff in that era, then it's a wasteland by '93.
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Post by: TAC on November 22, 2015, 07:16:32 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2015, 07:05:41 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 22, 2015, 07:03:34 PM
2) I will get onto finishing off the 80s at some point soonish...............we still need to do the best of lists for 1988 and 1989 but after that I am not sure it’s worth it. Each list takes a lot of time and the 90’s ain’t worth my time :lol

Go up to '92, then call it a day. :lol Plenty of great rock stuff in that era, then it's a wasteland by '93.

Agreed!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 22, 2015, 07:30:13 PM: Alright............... I will try and get to 1992 :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2015, 09:03:38 PM: The podcast is a great idea, but I don't think I should check it out til after my roulette. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 22, 2015, 09:08:04 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 22, 2015, 09:03:38 PM
The podcast is a great idea, but I don't think I should check it out til after my roulette. :lol

Thanks :D I wouldn't worry too much though - I am purposely avoiding stuff that I would be sending and if I were you I would check it out prior to your roulette. What's the worst that can happen? You discover a few new bands to increase the size of your "banned list" and you get even more good stuff in your roulette. And if I cock block a few others then so be it :hat

But seriously............it's 90% classics at this point and I'm not playing anything I expect to pop up in anyone's upcoming roulettes.

Anyway......glad you like the idea. And nice of you to call in during the show too :neverusethis:
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Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2015, 09:27:51 PM: All true, should have known that. I'll have to check it out then.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 22, 2015, 09:54:14 PM: I think you will have your loyal supporters from this thread!!

And going to 92 is a good idea; you always need to include I&W in any type of list.
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 03:20:38 AM: I downloaded the podcast last night. I will try and listen after work.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 09:39:09 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 22, 2015, 07:30:13 PM
Alright............... I will try and get to 1992 :lol

A lot of good and ignored stuff came out just as the scene was dying, so yeah, 92 makes sense.

Looking forward to giving the podcast a go. I've never bothered with them before so it'll be something new this end too. And props to Ben, great taste. I caught my eldest, Zach, listening to his own playlist on Spotify and after status quo's rocking all over the world came DT's Enigma Machine :biggrin: I was soo proud. :metal

And my dad has been listening to Steve vain and satriani. Very weird considering his past musical taste was opera, country (the old shit stuff) and awful Irish music :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 12:48:49 PM: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7JMDqizeZE&feature=youtu.be

Samples from the Ronnie Adkins / Erick Martensson Nordic Union.

Sounds good, pretty much what you would expect from the Martensson school, Eclipe, WET like classy rock.
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 01:01:42 PM: Unless you are a fan of these guys, there's not much there. :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2015, 01:07:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 12:48:49 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7JMDqizeZE&feature=youtu.be

Samples from the Ronnie Adkins / Erick Martensson Nordic Union.

Sounds good, pretty much what you would expect from the Martensson school, Eclipe, WET like classy rock.

Indeedy. Me likey.

Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 01:01:42 PM
Unless you are a fan of these guys, there's not much there. :lol

Not enough growls for ya? :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 01:46:35 PM: haha very funny.
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM: OK listening to the podcast now Brent. :metal :metal

Can't believe there wasn't an EVH intro.

Also, you talk funny. Can the next podcast have subtitles? :lol

Oh, and next time "KadefromBrisbaine" calls, HANG UP!

That Nation(I think that's what you said :lol) tune was awesome!
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 03:31:12 PM: Great job Brent and Ben. :metal
Enjoyed it. You managed to sneak in 3 songs I didn't know the Destinations Calling, really liked that. The Sammy Hagar tune and metal church, both of which were good.

Great choices for the last few Ben, can't beat those bands. My kids like KISS, they don't have much choice tbh. They loved the as scooby Doo meets KISS dvd that came out recently. Great def Leppard pick. Nice Bon jovi b side.
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 03:34:30 PM: The Sammy tune was actually really good. I'm not at the end yet.

And Mike Howe era Metal Church rules. Their new album is one of my more anticipated releases.

Great call on Armored Saint's Tainted Past
."Let the dust settle, and let cooler heads prevail" :metal

The Europe tune actually isn't that bad.

Brent, I didn't recognize a couple of tunes after Europe. What was played between Europe and Def Leppard? There were some great tunes in there.

AWESOME JOB Ben!!!!!! Can't wait for the next one!
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 04:17:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
The Sammy tune was actually really good. I'm not at the end yet.

And Mike Howe era Metal Church rules. Their new album is one of my more anticipated releases.

Great call on Armored Saint's Tainted Past
."Let the dust settle, and let cooler heads prevail" :metal

The Europe tune actually isn't that bad.

Brent, I didn't recognize a couple of tunes after Europe. What was played between Europe and Def Leppard? There were some great tunes in there.

AWESOME JOB Ben!!!!!! Can't wait for the next one!

I think there was a cool Vicious Rumors ballad.
And that whole Europe album is most excellent. Made my top 50. You seem surprised Tim. There is more to Europe than TFC.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 04:19:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
OK listening to the podcast now Brent. :metal :metal

Can't believe there wasn't an EVH intro.

Yeah.............it certainly crossed my mind , but I thought I would be a little less predictable. Van Halen didn't appear at all , but we'll fix that on the next one. Thanks to your feedback I will start working on another one

Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

Also, you talk funny. Can the next podcast have subtitles? :lol

That Nation(I think that's what you said :lol) tune was awesome!

I can't do much about the Aussie accent (I was thinking that as I said "Tainted Paaaaarst" instead of "Tainted Pairst". I would've hoped that "nation" was easy enough to understand though :lol I will try and improve the vocal delivery but with my soft,deep voice and a cheap webcam mic only so much can be done. Maybe I will get someone to buy me a proper mic for Christmas :lol

Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

Oh, and next time "KadefromBrisbaine" calls, HANG UP!

Thought you would like him :lol

Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

That Nation(I think that's what you said :lol) tune was awesome!

:tup

Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
What was played between Europe and Def Leppard? There were some great tunes in there.

I did announce them .........must be the funny voice :angel:

Enuff Z'Nuff : The World Is A Gutter
Firehouse: Reach For The Sky
Destination's Calling: Revolution In Mind
Vicious Rumors: When Love Comes Down
Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 03:34:30 PM

AWESOME JOB Ben!!!!!! Can't wait for the next one!

Thanks :)

Quote from: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 03:31:12 PM
Great job Brent and Ben. :metal
Enjoyed it. You managed to sneak in 3 songs I didn't know the Destinations Calling, really liked that. The Sammy Hagar tune and metal church, both of which were good.

Great choices for the last few Ben, can't beat those bands. My kids like KISS, they don't have much choice tbh. They loved the as scooby Doo meets KISS dvd that came out recently. Great def Leppard pick. Nice Bon jovi b side.

Thanks Paul. Looks like I got the balance right between classics and a few I was guessing could be less well known - so that's what I wanted to do. And yeah...............Ben loved the Scooby DVD too. :tup
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 04:23:01 PM: Your voice is only deep for an Aussie. Your air must have a high helium content :biggrin:

My youngest banned me from doing the bedtime story because of my deep, boring voice. I think the phrase was "give it some expression, man ". Cheeky little sod. Yeah, I won't be broadcasting anytime soon.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2015, 04:24:21 PM: Will listen tomorrow morning. I'm sure there's gonna be lots more played that I don't know.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 04:27:42 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 04:23:01 PM
Your voice is only deep for an Aussie. Your air must have a high helium content :biggrin:

My youngest banned me from doing the bedtime story because of my deep, boring voice. I think the phrase was "give it some expression, man ". Cheeky little sod. Yeah, I won't be broadcasting anytime soon.

Yeah............I thought long and hard about releasing anything with my voice on it - especially something thrown together like it was . Back when I was in bands my backing vocals were in the Gary Hughes (Ten) range as I just can't do "high." :lol Ben actually said that the podcast sounds nothing like me , so perhaps the shitty microphone is making it sound a little higher pitched - probably a good thing. Oh well......and better work on my elocution for Tim too. :)
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 04:29:43 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 04:17:55 PM

And that whole Europe album is most excellent. Made my top 50. You seem surprised Tim. There is more to Europe than TFC.

Which album is it?

I never paid them any attention to them after TFC. No reason I guess.

Didn't they do a cool acoustic cover of Love To Love?

Brent, I know I heard Danny Vaughn. Was that Tyketto? Never listened to them either. Next time my request for him should come from Waysted's Save Your Prayers. Chad liked How The West Was Won when I sent it in his roulette.

And I'll check, but I don't think I heard you announce that string of tunes. The Destination's Calling was cool. I have the podcast on my iPod and we have a looooooong drive for Thanksgiving, so I'll listen again.
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Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2015, 04:33:46 PM: I'll try and have a listen tonight too.

Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

Oh, and next time "KadefromBrisbaine" calls, HANG UP!

I'll just keep calling. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2015, 04:34:55 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 12:48:49 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7JMDqizeZE&feature=youtu.be

Samples from the Ronnie Adkins / Erick Martensson Nordic Union.

Sounds good, pretty much what you would expect from the Martensson school, Eclipe, WET like classy rock.

Sounds like WET with Ronnie singing. Suits me fine.
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 04:37:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 23, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 12:48:49 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7JMDqizeZE&feature=youtu.be

Samples from the Ronnie Adkins / Erick Martensson Nordic Union.

Sounds good, pretty much what you would expect from the Martensson school, Eclipe, WET like classy rock.

Sounds like WET with Ronnie singing. Suits me fine.

Ronnie's singing always makes you wet, doesn't it? ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 04:39:10 PM: First Tyketto album was pretty good, 2nd was a bit of a letdown but has some great tunes on it.
I love Forever Young from the 1st album. Danny is a great singer. Had the odd drunken chat (well I was drunk!) with him when I used to frequent maximes in Wigan.
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Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2015, 04:41:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 04:37:01 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 23, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 12:48:49 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7JMDqizeZE&feature=youtu.be

Samples from the Ronnie Adkins / Erick Martensson Nordic Union.

Sounds good, pretty much what you would expect from the Martensson school, Eclipe, WET like classy rock.

Sounds like WET with Ronnie singing. Suits me fine.

Ronnie's singing always makes you wet, doesn't it? ;D

You know it baby.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 04:44:38 PM: I think Ronnie is quite unique in the way that he morphs from the smoothest AOR style to damn heavy metal voice.............two voices for the price of one. The only guy I can think of who has done it so well is Mark Free.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 04:47:09 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 04:44:38 PM
I think Ronnie is quite unique in the way that he morphs from the smoothest AOR style to damn heavy metal voice.............two voices for the price of one. The only guy I can think of who has done it so well is Mark Free.

Don't think I can remember hearing mark free do a metal voice.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 04:48:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 04:47:09 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 04:44:38 PM
I think Ronnie is quite unique in the way that he morphs from the smoothest AOR style to damn heavy metal voice.............two voices for the price of one. The only guy I can think of who has done it so well is Mark Free.

Don't think I can remember hearing mark free do a metal voice.

Ok................next show ;D Having said that the gap between soft and heavy for him isn't as great as it is for Ronnie. Ronnie is pretty amazing .
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Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2015, 04:49:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 04:44:38 PM
I think Ronnie is quite unique in the way that he morphs from the smoothest AOR style to damn heavy metal voice.............two voices for the price of one. The only guy I can think of who has done it so well is Mark Free.

Great, versatile voice. Hopefully a new Pretty Maids album soon too.

I like Mark Free, but haven't got any albums, but the songs I've heard have been great.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 05:24:13 PM: Those u rule child and the signal album are pretty special.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 05:33:09 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 23, 2015, 05:24:13 PM
u rule

Thank you Paul (kingshmeglowdz) .........you rule too ;D

And yeah.....both those albums are great. Signal - Loud and Clear was the first thing I ever bought on Ebay ;D
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 05:54:15 PM: Brent, a request/feedback. Any chance that you could name the tracks like every 3 songs or so? That way I remember what I heard when you put a name to it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 05:58:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 05:54:15 PM
Brent, a request/feedback. Any chance that you could name the tracks like every 3 songs or so? That way I remember what I heard when you put a name to it.

Thanks for the feedback . What I was doing was playing in groups of 4 and naming the first track coming up and then naming the other three afterward...................so I was naming everything after no more than 3 tracks if you think of it like that.

I could change it to groupings of 3 (introduce one and catch up two) but then you would get more of my weird voice :lol I will try that and see if that improves things for you. :metal
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 06:05:20 PM: I must've missed it. I thought you were going like 5 or 6 songs between intros. I'll listen to it again tomorrow.

Your voice was fine. It's that accent! Wow! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 06:09:07 PM: No worries...............let me know after your 2nd listen if you want the groupings cut to three.

And I don't have an accent.............you do. ;D Kade will back me up.
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 06:15:09 PM: I'm not sure about that "KadefromBrisbaine".
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Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2015, 06:32:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 06:09:07 PM
And I don't have an accent.............you do. ;D Kade will back me up.

What this guy said.

Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
I'm not sure about that "KadefromBrisbaine".

Where's Brisbaine?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 08:47:39 PM: What the fuck is a Christopher Cross song doing at Track One on a Saxon album :omg: - just listening to Destiny for the first time.
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 08:48:32 PM: They did a great job with Ride Like The Wind.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 08:50:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 08:48:32 PM
They did a great job with Ride Like The Wind.

It's a good version but something I would expect to see at the end of an album or as a bonus track. Personally I would never open a new studio album with someone else's song - maybe that's just me. I didn't like VH doing it with You're No Good/Where Have All The Good Times Gone either..............less annoying with them though as VH tend to make the songs their own a bit more. Saxon's was more just a straight cover.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 23, 2015, 08:56:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 08:50:59 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 08:48:32 PM
They did a great job with Ride Like The Wind.

It's a good version but something I would expect to see at the end of an album or as a bonus track. Personally I would never open a new studio album with someone else's song - maybe that's just me. I didn't like VH doing it with You're No Good either.

While I don't mind it in the case of VH (largely because I didn't know the original first, and because it's done in a completely different style), generally I agree with the sentiment. First impressions are important for an album, and putting someone else's song first doesn't send a good message. Put it later on in the album once the listener has settled in a bit. Even VH1 was ok with You Really Got Me, despite only coming after one real song and a short instrumental.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 08:58:11 PM: I am going to have to try and forget this is Saxon...........up to track 3 and this album makes Journey sound like Norwegian black metal ;D
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 08:59:53 PM: This is part of a major lull in Saxon's discography.
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Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2015, 09:01:33 PM: That's a great cover. I should revisit that one. I didn't mind it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 23, 2015, 09:01:45 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 23, 2015, 08:58:11 PM
I am going to have to try and forget this is Saxon...........up to track 3 and this album makes Journey sound like Norwegian black metal ;D

Unless it's performed on a music box and sung by a children's choir, is this even possible to do?
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Post by: TAC on November 23, 2015, 09:06:43 PM: On one of their many live releases over the last half dozen years, Ride Like The Wind translates very well.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2015, 09:12:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
This is part of a major lull in Saxon's discography.

How can you tell when it's all a lull?
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Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2015, 09:39:23 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 23, 2015, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
This is part of a major lull in Saxon's discography.

How can you tell when it's all a lull?

What the fuck?
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Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2015, 01:29:04 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
This is part of a major lull in Saxon's discography.

They lost me around this time with the obvious drive to get a hit in America. It just didn't suit a meat and potatoes British metal band. They were great on that tour though.
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Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2015, 04:37:20 AM: I think Kingdom of Rock is a really brilliant cd. Lots of old school Magnus type of songwriting on a lot of these songs. Every song fits the singer really well. I could do without the chick song, but it's still good. Sounds like Avantasia.

I think my favs might actually be the David Readman song, the Tony Harnell and the brilliant Harry Hess track. The Tony Martin track is a winner too. Interesting that he wrote this with Magnus too, good stuff. Such a Sabbath vibe, and I love the Anno Mundi style vocals at the end, brilliant.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 05:01:24 AM: Yeah, When The Sky Falls sounds very much like a Sabbath song. The same could be said of most of the songs, that they could be interchangeable with the singers 'home' band (Poodles, PC69, TNT etc...).
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 24, 2015, 08:59:54 AM: Yeah the Tony Martin track is fantastic; big Sabbath vibe

And what's all this horseshit talk about Saxon?? Destiny should be right up your alley Brent. I'm surprised you didn't really like that one

And Ride Like the Wind is a great song. I've never actually heard the original
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Post by: Big Hath on November 24, 2015, 09:28:21 AM: did they get Michael McDonald to sing backup on their version too?
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Post by: Evermind on November 24, 2015, 10:00:54 AM: Downloading the podcast now, will spin it someday this week at work. :tup I surely need to renew some of my old acquaintances with the bands in the genre and the new ones won't hurt either.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 10:50:54 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

Oh, and next time "KadefromBrisbaine" calls, HANG UP!

Now I get the humour in this. Well played Brent. :lol

I think we should start a new tradition here for Tim... a Kip-roll. Next time there's a new Saxon clip, or something with Shenker or Alice Cooper, I'm gonna link the video for 17. :rollin
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 12:44:43 PM: Nice show. Lots in there that wasn't on my radar or in my library, and three totally new ones (Nation, Loudness, Destination's Calling - though I swear I've seen that album cover somewhere) that are on 'the list'.

Let me know when to send in my requests for next months show.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2015, 12:48:04 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 12:44:43 PM
Nice show. Lots in there that wasn't on my radar or in my library, and three totally new ones (Nation, Loudness, Destination's Calling - though I swear I've seen that album cover somewhere) that are on 'the list'.

Let me know when to send in my requests for next months show.

Bloody hell, nation were on your roulette list, instead I sent those ballads you didn't appreciate :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 02:37:27 PM: FFS, I SAID I FELT BAD!!!! :biggrin:

It's not like I didn't appreciate them, I just appreciated the hell out of other songs.

When are you going to sign up to do a Roulette? All the cool kids are doing (or have done) it.
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Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2015, 02:47:38 PM: And the coolest is yet to come. :hat
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2015, 02:52:39 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
FFS, I SAID I FELT BAD!!!! :biggrin:

It's not like I didn't appreciate them, I just appreciated the hell out of other songs.

When are you going to sign up to do a Roulette? All the cool kids are doing (or have done) it.

It seems a bit of a pain in the arse tbh :lol I'm all for an easy life. I'll think about it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2015, 02:54:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 24, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
FFS, I SAID I FELT BAD!!!! :biggrin:

It's not like I didn't appreciate them, I just appreciated the hell out of other songs.

When are you going to sign up to do a Roulette? All the cool kids are doing (or have done) it.

It seems a bit of a pain in the arse tbh :lol I'm all for an easy life. I'll think about it.

I thought that too. Way too much hassle. It still might be, but these bozos all peer pressured me into it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 02:57:40 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 24, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
FFS, I SAID I FELT BAD!!!! :biggrin:

It's not like I didn't appreciate them, I just appreciated the hell out of other songs.

When are you going to sign up to do a Roulette? All the cool kids are doing (or have done) it.

It seems a bit of a pain in the arse tbh :lol I'm all for an easy life. I'll think about it.

You know you'lll be doing more than thinking about it.

Thinking is irrelevant.
Easy life is irrelevant.
Pain is irrelevant.

Resistance is futile.

:james:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2015, 03:58:31 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 24, 2015, 02:54:17 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 24, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
FFS, I SAID I FELT BAD!!!! :biggrin:

It's not like I didn't appreciate them, I just appreciated the hell out of other songs.

When are you going to sign up to do a Roulette? All the cool kids are doing (or have done) it.

It seems a bit of a pain in the arse tbh :lol I'm all for an easy life. I'll think about it.

I thought that too. Way too much hassle. It still might be, but these bozos all peer pressured me into it.

I've never given in to that :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2015, 04:25:56 PM: Give it time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2015, 05:42:34 PM: "Paul's Half Assed Roulette" Podcast :metal :biggrin:

1) Paul provides a banned list
2) We all submit 5 songs
3) Brent creates a podcast out of them for Paul to listen to
4) Paul ranks the songs and decides Brent is the winner.

Done. :footloose:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 04:25:48 AM: Henning Basse is the new Firewind singer. Don't know too much about him. I have one Metalium and was not bad from what I remember.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2015, 04:57:26 AM: I knew I recognized the name... I only know him from the 2nd Epysode album - Fantasmagoria. Can't say he stood out, considering Tom Englund and Matt Marinelli (Borealis) were the other male vocal characters. Those two I remember.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 25, 2015, 10:59:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 24, 2015, 05:42:34 PM
"Paul's Half Assed Roulette" Podcast :metal :biggrin:

1) Paul provides a banned list
2) We all submit 5 songs
3) Brent creates a podcast out of them for Paul to listen to
4) Paul ranks the songs and decides Brent is the winner.

Done. :footloose:

5 sounds a bit too much like hard work... :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 04:24:37 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 25, 2015, 04:57:26 AM
I knew I recognized the name... I only know him from the 2nd Epysode album - Fantasmagoria. Can't say he stood out, considering Tom Englund and Matt Marinelli (Borealis) were the other male vocal characters. Those two I remember.

Shit, definitely gotta check Epysode out again then.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2015, 05:04:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on November 25, 2015, 04:57:26 AM
I knew I recognized the name... I only know him from the 2nd Epysode album - Fantasmagoria. Can't say he stood out, considering Tom Englund and Matt Marinelli (Borealis) were the other male vocal characters. Those two I remember.

Shit, definitely gotta check Epysode out again then.

One day, you'll believe lonestar's quote in my sig. ;) :-* ;D

Check your Spotify inbox.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 05:17:10 PM: I have listened to both and thought they were very good, just never gave them repeated listens.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2015, 05:57:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
I have listened to both and thought they were very good, just never gave them repeated listens.

I think I just died a little inside.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 25, 2015, 06:00:29 PM: I really liked one song on each Epysode album ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2015, 06:12:56 PM: (https://replygif.net/i/1370.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 06:50:19 PM: Relax Chad, I'll spin at least one of them tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on November 25, 2015, 07:07:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
I have listened to both and thought they were very good, just never gave them repeated listens.
Same here. Added them both to Spotify for later.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 25, 2015, 07:38:48 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

Oh, and next time "KadefromBrisbaine" calls, HANG UP!

Now I get the humour in this. Well played Brent. :lol

I think we should start a new tradition here for Tim... a Kip-roll. Next time there's a new Saxon clip, or something with Shenker or Alice Cooper, I'm gonna link the video for 17. :rollin

I don't think that's funny at all. :P

Had a looooong drive today and listened to Ben and Brent's show again!

I love how after The World Is A Gutter goes right into a song about shooting people! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 25, 2015, 07:45:03 PM: So my brother saw King Diamond last night. His bud is a huge fan so he went to see them. Saw a few videos he posted. Loved the music but his voice is grating.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 07:54:28 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on November 25, 2015, 07:45:03 PM
So my brother saw King Diamond last night. His bud is a huge fan so he went to see them. Saw a few videos he posted. Loved the music but his voice is grating.

King's vocals are an acquired taste for sure.

Quote from: TAC on November 25, 2015, 07:38:48 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on November 24, 2015, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

Oh, and next time "KadefromBrisbaine" calls, HANG UP!

Now I get the humour in this. Well played Brent. :lol

I think we should start a new tradition here for Tim... a Kip-roll. Next time there's a new Saxon clip, or something with Shenker or Alice Cooper, I'm gonna link the video for 17. :rollin

I don't think that's funny at all. :P

I'm gonna admit that I don't get that at all. :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 08:05:28 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on November 25, 2015, 07:07:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
I have listened to both and thought they were very good, just never gave them repeated listens.
Same here. Added them both to Spotify for later.

haha, Chad is gonna start crying soon.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2015, 06:06:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 08:05:28 PM
Quote from: Bolsters on November 25, 2015, 07:07:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 25, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
I have listened to both and thought they were very good, just never gave them repeated listens.
Same here. Added them both to Spotify for later.

haha, Chad is gonna start crying soon.

No tears, but I'll say a prayer for all of you.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2015, 07:56:02 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on November 25, 2015, 07:45:03 PM
So my brother saw King Diamond last night. His bud is a huge fan so he went to see them. Saw a few videos he posted. Loved the music but his voice is grating.

Yeah it's like that. That's why I prefer his later stuff. GMYS...P and The Puppet Master. Even House Of God. His voice is much more focused and not as screechingly high. I thought the music on Abigail 2 was great, but he kills it with those vocals trying to emulate the original Abigail, which to me is almost unlistenable due to the vocals.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2015, 12:54:18 PM: Even though I love all his work, I can see what you are saying.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2015, 01:05:59 PM: I literally only got into KD about 7 years ago. I just could never get into his schtick.

I was turned on to early Mercyful Fate back in the day but the satanic references were a turn off. Just never cared for his image. I had a good friend who was into him, and knew the music was top notch.

I have mentioned this before but in the late 80's twice I walked out of a KD show before he came on. I was there to see the opening bands. (Flotsam & Jetsam and Armored Saint). This was in a small club. Man am I kicking myself.

Andy Laroque is the most underrated guitarist in metal, and has been for too long. I hear lots of Schenker in his playing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on November 26, 2015, 02:25:38 PM: I cant really be upset if somebody does not like KD. His vocal style is just one of those things that you either like it or you just don't.

I saw him live for the first time the other day and He was fantastic. Thankfully he played in boston this time instead of at the palladium.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2015, 02:40:04 PM: I agree about Boston over Worcester.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2015, 02:49:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 26, 2015, 01:05:59 PM
I have mentioned this before but in the late 80's twice I walked out of a KD show before he came on.

Andy Laroque is the most underrated guitarist in metal, and has been for too long. I hear lots of Schenker in his playing.

Wow, man.

And yeah, Andy is a monster. He's definitely a top 10 player for me.

Quote from: ozzy554 on November 26, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
I cant really be upset if somebody does not like KD. His vocal style is just one of those things that you either like it or you just don't.

This.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 27, 2015, 06:40:13 AM: Just got Voodoo Circle - Whisky Fingers. On first listen, I'm definitely digging it. I feel a much stronger early Whitesnake / Purple influence on this one.
The end of the chorus of Heartbreaking Woman sounds like Love Hunter. The Rhythm of My Heart is Ain't No Love In The Heart of the City. Devil Takes Me Down has shades of Burn.
The style is more bluesy than the last one, still with the modern hard rock sound to it. And the production is excellent. Really nice to listen to.

I might end up liking this even more than the last one. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2015, 03:50:00 PM: I'll definitely get it, but not liking that you mention it's more blues. The last one was very good though. Good to see they are keeping their influences alive. ::)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 27, 2015, 04:03:17 PM: I'm not sure why I haven't checked out Voodoo Circle before today, but I've just been playing some songs of theirs and they kick serious ass. Silent Force meets Whitesnake!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2015, 04:23:05 PM: They are a good solid band Jason. The last one especially was all solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2015, 07:10:00 PM: Maybe I'll check them out too. Anyone of note in the band?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 27, 2015, 08:03:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 27, 2015, 03:50:00 PM
I'll definitely get it, but not liking that you mention it's more blues. The last one was very good though. Good to see they are keeping their influences alive. ::)

All I meant is that I'd say it's closer in style to Broken Heart Syndrome, but much better written imo, and still with the heavier / more modern sound of the last one. It just borrows more from classic Whitesnake than 1987 S/T era than the last one, and I think the influence is less blatant and more latent. :P Kinda like modern Whitesnake, really. If you like the last one, I think you should like this one too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2015, 07:14:31 AM: I was going to post this in the "What album are you listening thread" but decided I'd post this here.

We road tripped for Thanksgiving, so I tried something new to figure what to listen to. I decided I'd go A-Z picking one artist per letter.
So it went like this:

Ben n Brent's Rock n Roll podcast... :metal :metal Nice job guys
Armored Saint-Win Hands Down....This is a GREAT album. John Bush might be my favorite lyricist.
Bruce Dickinson-Balls To Picasso...Haven't heard this in a awhile. I never truly appreciated Bruce until I heard this album
Cooper, Alice ;D-Raise Your Fist And Yell...A couple duds on the first side but side 2 is absolutely killer!
Dio-Holy Diver....Damn. Just Damn.
Enbound-And She Says Gold...I'll take a second album anytime, fellas!
Flotsam & Jetsam-When The Storm Comes Down...The great metal air drumming album of all time!
Glass Mind-Haunting Regrets....See Enbound
Helloween-Keepers Pt2....One of the 3 greatest vocal performances these ears have ever heard
Iced Earth-The Glorious Burden..Had a craving for Gettysburg 1863, especially after driving by the exit. Jon Schaffer absolutely nails this.
Joe Perry Project-I've Got The Rock n Rolls Again...A TAC classic.

We hit the road in a couple hours and I'll resume with a great "K" selection.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 28, 2015, 07:30:49 AM: Some great albums right there!!

XYZ for X?
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Post by: Bolsters on November 28, 2015, 07:33:17 AM: Well we already know what W's going to be.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 28, 2015, 07:37:52 AM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2015, 07:40:04 AM: :lol
What's so funny about Waysted? :P

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 28, 2015, 07:30:49 AM
Some great albums right there!!

XYZ for X?

Just realized I don't have any X or Z on my iPod! :omg:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2015, 07:41:37 AM: I'm totally with you on Enbound and Glass Mind. Sadly, GM doesn't have a vocalist anymore - they have published 3 different instrumentals on YT over the last couple of years.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 28, 2015, 07:43:49 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 27, 2015, 07:10:00 PM
Maybe I'll check them out too. Anyone of note in the band?

David Readman from pink Cream 69 doing his best Coverdale impression. Alex Beyrodt from Silent Force and Primal Fear. So yes :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2015, 07:49:50 AM: Thanks Lowdz. Someone gave me a very nice PC 69 tune in my roulette. I'll check it out.

Quote from: jingle.boy on November 28, 2015, 07:41:37 AM
Sadly, GM doesn't have a vocalist anymore -

As much as I liked his passion, he did kind of blow. :lol But that album musically is so great. Any fan of classic DT that has never heard it needs to!
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2015, 07:51:00 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 28, 2015, 07:49:50 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on November 28, 2015, 07:41:37 AM
Sadly, GM doesn't have a vocalist anymore -

As much as I liked his passion, he did kind of blow. :lol But that album musically is so great. Any fan of classic DT that has never heard it needs to!

I didn't find that at all. It's not like he slayed it or anything, but he didn't strike me as a problem either.
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2015, 07:56:13 AM: Well, he does add character. To me though, he was clearly the weak link. Often I felt I was listening to him in spite of the poor guy. But he was no means unlistenable.
Your Name In Silence has to be one of the 10 best songs I've heard this decade.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2015, 03:16:35 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 27, 2015, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 27, 2015, 03:50:00 PM
I'll definitely get it, but not liking that you mention it's more blues. The last one was very good though. Good to see they are keeping their influences alive. ::)

All I meant is that I'd say it's closer in style to Broken Heart Syndrome, but much better written imo, and still with the heavier / more modern sound of the last one. It just borrows more from classic Whitesnake than 1987 S/T era than the last one, and I think the influence is less blatant and more latent. :P Kinda like modern Whitesnake, really. If you like the last one, I think you should like this one too.

I find it unreal that it borrows from Whitesnake more than the last one, that's quite hard to believe to be honest. I'm sure I'll like it anyway.

Quote from: TAC on November 28, 2015, 07:14:31 AM

Bruce Dickinson-Balls To Picasso...Haven't heard this in a awhile. I never truly appreciated Bruce until I heard this album

Enbound-And She Says Gold...I'll take a second album anytime, fellas!

Iced Earth-The Glorious Burden..Had a craving for Gettysburg 1863, especially after driving by the exit. Jon Schaffer absolutely nails this.

A very underrated Bruce album, lots of good songs here.

That Enbound album is quite good, a follow up would be welcome.

Agree with Gettysburg, I love that whole piece, it's amazing.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 29, 2015, 04:10:13 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 29, 2015, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 27, 2015, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 27, 2015, 03:50:00 PM
I'll definitely get it, but not liking that you mention it's more blues. The last one was very good though. Good to see they are keeping their influences alive. ::)

All I meant is that I'd say it's closer in style to Broken Heart Syndrome, but much better written imo, and still with the heavier / more modern sound of the last one. It just borrows more from classic Whitesnake than 1987 S/T era than the last one, and I think the influence is less blatant and more latent. :P Kinda like modern Whitesnake, really. If you like the last one, I think you should like this one too.

I find it unreal that it borrows from Whitesnake more than the last one, that's quite hard to believe to be honest. I'm sure I'll like it anyway.

I didn't mean it borrows more from Whitesnake, I meant it borrows from older Whitesnake rather than 1987 era like the last one. Pardon my wording!

I've been listening to the album constantly, and I definitely like it more than the last one. An excellent album.
But the song Straight Shooter is musically almost identical to one of the studio tracks from Live In The Shadow of the Blues. I'm going to make a comparison to see just how close they are.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 29, 2015, 04:36:27 AM: Ok, here's the comparison. Whitesnake - I'll Come Running, and Voodoo Circle - Straight Shooter.

The Whitesnake song is in C, and the Voodoo Circle song is in F, so I pitch shifted them both to the mid point. Other than that, I haven't done any editing to the tempo, only a slight cut every 4 bars or so to stop it drifting off. I also cut the repetitions in the intro so the verses came in at the same time. The chorus of the Voodoo Circle song changes chords at twice the rate of the Whitesnake song, which is why there are gaps at that section. Other than that, as is. Voodoo Circle in the left speaker, Whitesnake in the right. I recommend right-clicking and downloading the file and listening with headphones and playing with the panning for comparison, but either way.

Note in particular the absolutely identical guitar and drum fills from about 55 seconds in.

https://blobvandam.com/link/whitefake.mp3

What are the chances this is a coincidence? :lol

(By the way, please don't let this put you off the album, because it's excellent, this is just a one off copy)
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 29, 2015, 07:41:32 AM: Whats the best Voodoo Circle album so far?
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Post by: Evermind on November 29, 2015, 10:44:07 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 29, 2015, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 28, 2015, 07:14:31 AM
Enbound-And She Says Gold...I'll take a second album anytime, fellas!
That Enbound album is quite good, a follow up would be welcome.

Yup, it's the only song Tim managed to send me in my roulette, but damn, I finally got around to buy and spin this album and I've been listening to it this whole week. Fantastic stuff.
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Post by: Coolcat on November 29, 2015, 06:47:08 PM: Anyone else love Cool Cat loves to Rock by Cool Cat Savage? To me, it's up there with Pull Me Under by Dreem Theatre and Ain't Talkin Bout Love by Van Halen! :metal
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2015, 07:24:02 PM: The ride home from Atlanta. The second half of my A-Z listen.

King Diamond-Give Me Your Soul..Please...Musically a perfect metal album. Perfect!
Lost Horizon-A Flame To The Ground Beneath...Anyone reading this that does not already have this needs to get it now!
Michael Schenker Group-Assault Attack...As strong as Birch's production is, he completely loses Schenker's tone. And Bonnet..ouch!
Nightmare World-In The Fullness Of Time....Better than I remembered it being when I first bought it
Ozzy Osbourne-Bark At The Moon...Waiting For Darkness is my 2nd fave Ozzy tune
Paul Stanley-s/t...This is a GREAT album
Queensryche-Warning..Geoff Tate..Holy hell!
Redemption-Snowfall On Judgement Day...Poor Ray has to sing such sappy lyrics from both Jim and Nick
Saxon-Battering Ram...Can't believe they are still making music this good
TAC Roulette-Round 1... That was fun!
UFO-A Conspiracy Of Stars..Best Vinnie album solo-wise, but IMO, the Vinnie era has been a huge disappointment
Van Halen-Fair Warning...Hadn't heard this in awhile
Waysted-Vices...A TAC Classic
Eternity X-The Edge...The album Savatage could never make
Yngwie Malmsteen-Perpetual Flame...Hey, I like it!
Zipper Catches Skin-Alice Cooper...the only album or artist on my iPod that started with Z
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Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2015, 04:33:00 AM: So much win right there Tim.

That KD is killer. At first I was underwhelmed but it's aged really well and is a solid album.
Amazing Lost Horizon album of course.
That Eternity X album is pretty damn good.
I really like that Malmsteen one too, it's great.
Still have to listen to that MSG but hey, I got Spotify.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2015, 07:57:06 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaYf0OGN68Y

New Primal Fear song. This one is too cheesy silly power metal for me, but I'm still listening to The End is Near a lot, so I'm hoping for more songs like that on the album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2015, 08:11:12 PM: That worked plenty for me, but yeah... lyrics are incredibly cheesy.
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2015, 04:08:16 AM: Fucking solid. Reminds me a lot of Dream Evil for some reason, the chrous I think.

Don't worry too much Blob, they always have one or two of these cheesy metal anthems on every album.
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Post by: Art on December 01, 2015, 12:27:44 PM: Pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2015, 03:26:57 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 30, 2015, 08:11:12 PM
That worked plenty for me, but yeah... lyrics are incredibly cheesy.

They always are for these type of songs they do. I'm not too worried about it. There was a couple of stinkers in the lyric department on the last album too.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2015, 06:36:04 PM: 20% off CDs and DVDs at JB today.............might interest you Kade.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2015, 06:49:29 PM: Brent, when is the next DTF Podcast?

"TimfromBoston" is requesting another Nation track!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2015, 06:58:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2015, 06:49:29 PM
Brent, when is the next DTF Podcast?

I am on target with that. I think I said I was aiming for one every 2-4 weeks in the original post and I am 80% done on #2.....(#1 was 23rd November)......so we will make the lower end of that target range. :)

More editing to do as Ben wasn't quite so co-operative this time around :lol

Glad you're looking forward to it (and thanks for all the feedback) - knowing that others also miss "radio shows" like this is the motivation to keep it going.

Just saw your edit..............okay - can add in another Nation track.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2015, 07:00:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2015, 06:58:17 PM

More editing to do as Ben wasn't quite so co-operative this time around :lol

So it's only going to be a Ben's Five instead of a Ben's Ten? :D
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2015, 07:08:58 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2015, 06:36:04 PM
20% off CDs and DVDs at JB today.............might interest you Kade.

Hmm...not much on the site that I would order, but I might pop in to a store travelling between work venues and have a look. Still need to get my hands on the Stryper.

And what the hell can't we get the new Rush DVD?! Don't understand.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2015, 10:47:40 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2015, 06:36:04 PM
20% off CDs and DVDs at JB today.............might interest you Kade.

You're not helping with Wolf's addiction lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2015, 10:56:36 PM: He can spend what he saves on some counselling ;D
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2015, 04:10:35 AM: Went and visited a store that I haven't been too for a few months, but nothing worthwhile.

I see this Teramaze cd in every store and checked them out as a possible purchase option, but it didn't do much for me to be honest. Nothing else on the horizon this year to worth going instore for unfortunately.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 02, 2015, 05:33:15 AM: Has anyone else checked out the new Voodoo Circle yet? I absolutely love this album, much more than the last one. There are only two songs I don't love, and that's probably because I haven't given them a good chance yet. One of the strongest hard rock albums I've heard in recent years.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 02, 2015, 08:08:12 AM: I just wanted to say that I really like the idea of these podcasts, but I'm not sure if I can listen to them regularly because I got some other shit going on that doesn't leave a lot of time for music. But please keep it up, I will listen to one some day and I know I will like what I hear.
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Post by: Evermind on December 02, 2015, 08:10:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 02, 2015, 04:10:35 AM
I see this Teramaze cd in every store and checked them out as a possible purchase option, but it didn't do much for me to be honest. Nothing else on the horizon this year to worth going instore for unfortunately.

You can always go in store and check for some older records you don't own. ;)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2015, 09:02:51 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on December 02, 2015, 08:08:12 AM
I just wanted to say that I really like the idea of these podcasts, but I'm not sure if I can listen to them regularly because I got some other shit going on that doesn't leave a lot of time for music. But please keep it up, I will listen to one some day and I know I will like what I hear.

Thanks.........appreciate the sentiment ,even if there's no listening going on. And FTR I cannot see in the cloud account how many downloads there have been ,so I'm relying on feedback here as far as gauging whether there's enough interest to keep it up. So thanks for the note :)
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Post by: TAC on December 02, 2015, 02:28:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2015, 06:58:17 PM
Glad you're looking forward to it (and thanks for all the feedback) - knowing that others also miss "radio shows" like this is the motivation to keep it going.

In the fall of 1982 (my first year of high school), a Providence radio station started a "Metal Hour" that would be on at 11:00 PM or Midnight on Saturday nights. I never missed a show, often recording them. This is where I first heard Hit The Lights, Queen Of The Ryche, etc..
(Doug Fry, the DJ that started the show moved to another city, to be replaced by a guy called Dr. Metal. He is thanked in the I&W liner notes. Sadly he was killed in the Station Fire.)

Anyway, while listening to your show, I couldn't help but be transported to being 14 years old listening to "The Metal Hour". :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2015, 06:49:05 PM: Quote from: Evermind on December 02, 2015, 08:10:56 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 02, 2015, 04:10:35 AM
I see this Teramaze cd in every store and checked them out as a possible purchase option, but it didn't do much for me to be honest. Nothing else on the horizon this year to worth going instore for unfortunately.

You can always go in store and check for some older records you don't own. ;)

I actually looked for Assault Attack from MSG cause I quite like it after Tim's recommendations. If I didn't find that I would have got one of those 5cd's packs that go for like $20, but no luck.
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Post by: Bolsters on December 02, 2015, 07:51:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 02, 2015, 09:02:51 AM
Thanks.........appreciate the sentiment ,even if there's no listening going on. And FTR I cannot see in the cloud account how many downloads there have been ,so I'm relying on feedback here as far as gauging whether there's enough interest to keep it up. So thanks for the note :)
I haven't listened to it intently yet, so far I've just skipped through to listen to your DJ skillz and a couple of the songs. I really liked Anytime. I intend to listen to the whole thing eventually.
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2015, 08:19:46 PM: I will check your podcast soon Brent, promise. :mehlin
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Post by: Lowdz on December 03, 2015, 01:21:47 AM: I'm ready for another. Tell Ben to get his ass in gear :rollin
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Post by: bl5150 on December 03, 2015, 05:08:22 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 03, 2015, 01:21:47 AM
I'm ready for another. Tell Ben to get his ass in gear :rollin

Amazing what a kick up the ass can do :biggrin:..................just having one proper listen right through and I will get it ready for download.

I am not sure if we will get another one done before Christmas (hopefully) , so just in case I have made this a bumper edition. Two and a half hours and more of everything - more hard rock, more metal, more classics and more rarities. I think I covered off all the requests and hopefully the fact that I now have ten times the experience in podcasting (10 days vs 1 day) will shine through :metal ::)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 03, 2015, 04:39:20 PM: OK guys.....................today is a "DT" day in this thread. Feel free to discuss the new "single" from DT in addition to the normal stuff. That way we can follow a conversation on it without having to read 20 pages at a time ..

What do you guys think of it? I'll refer to a few posts relevant to my opinion

Quote from: noxon on December 03, 2015, 02:25:17 PM

They focus on the story first and foremost, so the songs will be most likely be shorter in order to convey a part of the story, and with repating themes throughout like you'll hear in a movie score. The songs will be standalone, but yet be telling a whole story, and be designed to be played as a whole.

Quote from: Kotowboy on December 03, 2015, 02:37:44 PM

Sounds more like "classic" DT. If the whole album has this vibe - it will be the sound i've been missing since Octavarium.

Quote from: wolfking on December 03, 2015, 03:28:46 PM
Quote from: Zook on December 03, 2015, 02:10:50 PM
Ok song. Sounds like it's a transitional song. Not like a segue or anything. More of a filler to keep the story going.

Exactly my thoughts too. I don't think it's fair to really judge it as it will probably work a lot better in the context of the album.

I don't mind it, but only listened to it once, and don't really have much of an urge to repeat it. I'd rather wait for the full album. I get a heavy SDOIT, About to Crash vibe too. The instrumental was really cool though. Looking forward to the whole concept.

These posts have me a bit worried in terms of my taste as I generally don't like albums "that need to be listened to from start to finish" and where "the music is a score for the story" - I just find the songs generally have no staying power and the lyrics become the focus , even though I don't want them to. With a few brilliant exceptions where the songs are also standouts - Mindcrime, streets, Crimson Idol. And I'm not all that fussed about Octavarium :lol

I think I like the new song about as much as the better songs on SFAM (not saying much for me but promising I suppose) , but if this is the "single" (presumably chosen for being one of the more memorable pieces as a unit) then this is likely to be a more "theatrical" production and I'm not a fan of traditional theatre or "album long stories with a score".

In summary ............it sounds like it might be the sort of concept album format that I don't like , but the new song sounds about as good as it gets for me within that format. So I'm open minded, hoping to be astonished, but concerned. And the production seems to be an improvement , so that's good.

I'm still a bit iffy on this concept too - as someone posted elsewhere the other day "it sounds like something a 15 year old gamer would get a boner over" :lol Maybe that explains the changed demographic around these parts lately ;D
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2015, 04:53:08 PM: I would probably agree with most of that Brent. It's a strange song to release first, which backs up your concerns about the type of concept album it may be. I am looking forward to the concept, but at the same time, I'm not sold on it either yet. I applaud DT for giving this a go though and look forward to it. Hopefully there is a lot of songs that can stand on their own, as 2cd's of songs like this that connect to each other throughout the whole thing would be very hard work to listen to.

And as I get older, I feel less inclined to really spend time on stuff like this sort of thing. I'm not gonna keep listening to the song though at all, maybe just 2 or 3 times, that's it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2015, 05:34:01 PM: I found it to be a solid track. To me, it sounds like something from the FII era.

With 34 tracks on the album, I'm quite positive that there will be more superior tracks.
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2015, 05:36:07 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 03, 2015, 05:34:01 PM
With 34 tracks on the album, I'm quite positive that there will be more superior tracks.

Absolutely.

I think the big question is, why is this the first song they release?

Perhaps they only wanted to give away a small teaser song instead blowing their load right away and spoiling the epicness of the whole thing. Makes sense.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2015, 05:42:57 PM: I wouldnt be surprised if they release a few songs officially before the album comes out.
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2015, 06:34:44 PM: I thought the song was perfect and a great choice for a pre release track. I like this more than any other track they've pre released. I like the fact that James is being pushed here as far as range. While I thought he was great on SC and BC&SL, even ADTOE, I never felt his range was all that challenged.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2015, 06:37:17 PM: Yeah, it definitely has a mid-90s DT-era feel to it. I love concept albums, so I'm intrigued and looking forward to this - although truth be told, most double-album concepts are tough to repeatedly listen to - The Wall being the exception - although, it's only 100 minutes long anyway. Ayreon's last album was a double-concept, which was a chore to go thru. Although, The Human Equation is my #2 album of all-time, so there's that.

I'll try this song a few more times, then shelve it until the album comes out. Have they even announced a release date yet?
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2015, 06:48:01 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 03, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
I'll try this song a few more times, then shelve it until the album comes out. Have they even announced a release date yet?

This. I think in the main thread someone said it was confirmed for the 29th of Jan.
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Post by: Bolsters on December 03, 2015, 07:45:09 PM: I'm not excited by anything in this song at all.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 03, 2015, 08:31:48 PM: This is the hard rock / classic metal thread dangit. Keep the DT to DT side. :'(

GEORGE'S WORLDS ARE COLLIDING. YOU'RE KILLING INDEPENDENT GEORGE.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 03, 2015, 08:35:41 PM: You're welcome to hang out over there Blob ;D . I got most of the opinions that I'm interested in without having to read 30 pages of crap.

back to normal service......... :P
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Post by: Evermind on December 03, 2015, 08:47:38 PM: I'm not too fussed about new DT song. Nothing wrong with it, alright song, but that's about it.

Also, latest Ayreon is fantastic and not a chore to get through at all.
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2015, 09:15:28 PM: I didn't get into that Ayreon that much. I should have another spin though.
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Post by: Bolsters on December 03, 2015, 09:49:41 PM: Quote from: Evermind on December 03, 2015, 08:47:38 PM
I'm not too fussed about new DT song. Nothing wrong with it, alright song, but that's about it.
:hifive:

Quote from: Evermind on December 03, 2015, 08:47:38 PM
Also, latest Ayreon is fantastic and not a chore to get through at all.
I'm with Chad. I think what made the album difficult for me was that each track on it was one or two ideas, and while there was some good stuff in there, none of those good ideas got much of a chance to shine before the next track started. Had the best bits been taken and Arjen made proper songs out of them (not 20-odd minute songs made up of a ton of tracks/ideas thrown at the wall), it might have become something that appealed to me more.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 12:27:25 AM: I was having a bit of trouble with the mix and a deterioration in sound quality on the export of the podcast into mp3 but I seem to have resolved it.

Here is the new download link for Podcast #2

https://mega.nz/#!3JlDnQDa!UOpMmU4RrToZPSsFO6eLUXzfDi6l5yD15Cf2xWD2fJg

I am indexing them in the OP along with the Best of 1980's years (yet to get to Top Tens for bands) , but can't promise how long I will leave them up for. I can always re-upload anyway if anyone wants me to.

Hopefully there's something in there for everyone - that's the plan :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2015, 04:48:29 AM: Can I download it in mp3 format to my computer through that site?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 04:58:42 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 04, 2015, 04:48:29 AM
Can I download it in mp3 format to my computer through that site?

The download is a zip/rar file which is pretty standard for albums etc......but seeing I have managed to mix all the separate tracks into one single mp3 file I suppose I could just avoid the zipping and just have it there as an mp3.

Anyway - this is what you should see from the link

(https://s11.postimg.org/lc2zdqrdv/podc.jpg)

Just click on "download through your browser" and it'll do the rest . Save it to wherever , unzip (like I assume you do from your legit Siberian provider :lol ) and it should give you the mp3.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2015, 04:59:45 AM: How long is the audio? That's a huge file!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 05:01:35 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2015, 04:59:45 AM
How long is the audio? That's a huge file!

Two and a half hours in 320kbps - great value for money :metal I'm on a 100GB/month broadband plan so something like that wouldn't make a dent. Now that you mention it I was hoping that the rar file creation would make the file smaller - that's why I did it :-\

I'll try zip instead of rar and see what happens.

Nope.........seems it's as compressed as it's going to get.
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2015, 05:02:36 AM: New ARP song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqa1EoSbOB4

Meh, it's not bad actually.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2015, 05:04:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 05:01:35 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2015, 04:59:45 AM
How long is the audio? That's a huge file!

Two and a half hours in 320kbps - great value for money :metal I'm on a 100GB/month broadband plan so something like that wouldn't make a dent. Now that you mention it I was hoping that the rar file creation would make the file smaller - that's why I did it :-\

I'll try zip instead of rar and see what happens.

Ok, that checks out. I'm just not used to podcasts being 320kb/s, they're usually 128kb/s due to length, and being predominantly speaking even when they include music.

I get 200gb a month (split between peak/off peak), but I download too many dents. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 05:06:54 AM: Mine probably has a total of 10 mins talk - the more music and less of me the better . No need to agree all at once :lol

And do I even need to click the ARP link ? - I think I can play it in my head without the link :)
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2015, 05:15:37 AM: It's not a mindblowing song, but it is slightly different to what he normally dishes up.

Downloaded the podcast, might have to wait til Sunday night though.
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2015, 05:17:15 AM: Will download the podcast when I get home from work. Thanks Brent!!!
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Post by: Bolsters on December 04, 2015, 05:18:45 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 05:01:35 AM
Now that you mention it I was hoping that the rar file creation would make the file smaller - that's why I did it :-\
I believe that by default there is no data compression or very little, you'll have to tinker around in Winrar to change the level to something substantial. Though I wouldn't expect much of a difference in filesize anyway so it probably doesn't matter.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2015, 05:21:02 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on December 04, 2015, 05:18:45 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 05:01:35 AM
Now that you mention it I was hoping that the rar file creation would make the file smaller - that's why I did it :-\
I believe that by default there is no data compression or very little, you'll have to tinker around in Winrar to change the level to something substantial. Though I wouldn't expect much of a difference in filesize anyway so it probably doesn't matter.

Yeah, I don't think you'll get any noticeable compression on an mp3 file. The main purpose of an archive file for an album of mp3's is just to collect it all in one file.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 04, 2015, 04:40:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 05:06:54 AM
Mine probably has a total of 10 mins talk - the more music and less of me the better . No need to agree all at once :lol

And do I even need to click the ARP link ? - I think I can play it in my head without the link :)

That's pretty much the Carousel riff :biggrin:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1uih-Perhqw
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Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 04:18:15 AM: Having a listen to this podcast now Brent, I'm really enjoying it. Love your sexy accent too, best ever. :tup

I'm about an hour through and will listen to the rest tomorrow night.

Lots of great stuff on here, Y&T, Crimson Glory, Accept, Ozzy, Helloween, Testmament, all good shit.

I fucking loved that Waysted track. Never really got into them but they are a must now. That Breaker track was killer too, never heard of them before.
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2015, 05:10:02 AM: I downloaded but haven't had a chance to listen. What Waysted track??
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2015, 05:15:03 AM: Listening right now in fact!
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 06, 2015, 05:43:41 AM: Breaker is an unknown gem in metal

They only released one album I believe
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Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2015, 06:56:48 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 04:18:15 AM
Having a listen to this podcast now Brent, I'm really enjoying it. Love your sexy accent too, best ever. :tup

I'm about an hour through and will listen to the rest tomorrow night.

Lots of great stuff on here, Y&T, Crimson Glory, Accept, Ozzy, Helloween, Testmament, all good shit.

I fucking loved that Waysted track. Never really got into them but they are a must now. That Breaker track was killer too, never heard of them before.

That's great Kade - thanks :metal That's my dream "radio show" scenario -listening to a whole load of cool classics at the same time as discovering a few new bands/rarities and if I get that balance right for you guys then that's "job done."
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2015, 07:08:19 AM: "Back when Timo Tolkki had 1/2 a clue about what the fuck he was doing". :lol :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on December 06, 2015, 01:33:31 PM: Was use listening to the Testament thinking how Unthrash that song was when all our power went thanks to the floods here. Now finally got some power but not sure how long for. The electric company were saying Tuesday night at the earliest. It's so bad sky news are here.
Going to try again now.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 06, 2015, 04:09:01 PM: Half way through now, enjoyed everything so far except the Warlord. Has that folk music sound I can't stand, making reunion era maiden a difficult listen :biggrin:

Nice to hear some Ten era Y&T, great track with a great performance from the legend that was Phil Kennemore. Might be my favourite album by them.
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2015, 04:52:48 PM: Downloading a .rar extractor now for the podcast.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2015, 04:57:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 06, 2015, 04:52:48 PM
Downloading a .rar extractor now for the podcast.

I thought I had zipped up the November one but it seems I was dreaming.........and seeing as it has made zero difference in terms of size I will just go back to a standard mp3.

I am currently uploading that standard format for December too Tim , so if you don't want to muck around with the .rar then just give me 10 minutes.

it's good to have a zip/rar extractor anyway though.
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2015, 05:07:05 PM: I'm all set, Brent. Thank you. Gonna get it on my iPod for the ride to work tomorrow.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2015, 05:12:06 PM: OK cool. I have replaced the link in the OP with a non-zipped version anyway.
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2015, 05:41:57 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 04:18:15 AM
I fucking loved that Waysted track. Never really got into them but they are a must now.

Heroes Die Young :metal :metal

That's from their 3rd album Save Your Prayers featuring Danny Vaughan on vocals. I think you'd really like that Kade. It's a great album. Features Pete Way and Paul Chapman (from UFO) along with Johnny Ditiodoro on drums who would later join Britny Fox.

I actually prefer their first two and a half albums with Fin on vocals.

And Brent, call me TAC (as in "tack"). :)

And next Waysted track for Kade on Podcast 3 needs to be Night Of The Wolf.

I'm The One :metal A Top 10 VH track for me. Maybe Top 5.
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Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 08:12:58 PM: Yeah Brent, well done, looking forward to listening the rest and going back to the first one too.

And yeah Tim, that Waysted track was stellar. I really like Danny Vaughn from his From the Inside project so will definitely check them out. Was always one of those bands that were on the radar but didn't get around to it.

Quote from: Lowdz on December 06, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
Nice to hear some Ten era Y&T, great track with a great performance from the legend that was Phil Kennemore. Might be my favourite album by them.

Me too, I love that one.

Wasn't a huge fan of the Warlord either.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 06, 2015, 08:24:11 PM: I had bought the best of Warlord, which at the time was basically all of their songs. The album gets absolutely rave reviews.

I thought it was solid, but the production was terrible.

Last I heard from Warlord is that they reformed with the singer from Hammerfall a few years back
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Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 08:29:56 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 06, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
Last I heard from Warlord is that they reformed with the singer from Hammerfall a few years back

I knew I'd heard the band name before. Might have to listen to that track again.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 06, 2015, 08:48:10 PM: I know they released one or two albums with him
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2015, 08:50:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 08:12:58 PM
And yeah Tim, that Waysted track was stellar. I really like Danny Vaughn from his From the Inside project so will definitely check them out. Was always one of those bands that were on the radar but didn't get around to it.

:burns:

Scratch one band off the list for Tim's arsenal during Kade's roulette!

Was really hoping for Def Leppard/Action, but then I got jipped! :lol Still waiting for that AD/DC song.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 06, 2015, 08:57:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 08:29:56 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 06, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
Last I heard from Warlord is that they reformed with the singer from Hammerfall a few years back

I knew I'd heard the band name before. Might have to listen to that track again.

And Hammerfall covered Warlords "Child of the Damned" on one of their albums. I remember it was a very good rendition
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Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 09:08:18 PM: Yeah, it was on Glory to the Brave, their first album, great song. Might have to look into them a bit more.

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 06, 2015, 08:50:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 08:12:58 PM
And yeah Tim, that Waysted track was stellar. I really like Danny Vaughn from his From the Inside project so will definitely check them out. Was always one of those bands that were on the radar but didn't get around to it.

:burns:

Scratch one band off the list for Tim's arsenal during Kade's roulette!

Was really hoping for Def Leppard/Action, but then I got jipped! :lol Still waiting for that AD/DC song.

I said to Brent I wanted to hold off on his podcasts for this very reason, but oh well. :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2015, 09:15:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 09:08:18 PM

I said to Brent I wanted to hold off on his podcasts for this very reason, but oh well. :biggrin:

And so ends my sharing of songs with Brent that are in the "Wolfking Roulette" playlist.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2015, 09:33:02 PM: I have a playlist from which the next 12 months of podcasts will be drawn (the rare tracks anyway) ,so I wouldn't be too worried Chad :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2015, 09:35:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 06, 2015, 09:33:02 PM
Believe me -the last thing I want is more tracks for my "wolfking roulette" playlist :lol

Nah... I just mean if you play anything I give you, if you play em on the podcast, Kade might check 'em out.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2015, 09:36:22 PM: I was editing while you were replying ;) And in any case I wouldn't use anything on the podcast that others recommend to me that is any way connected to a roulette/post-roulette ,for that reason.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2015, 09:45:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 06, 2015, 09:36:22 PM
I was editing while you were replying ;) And in any case I wouldn't use anything on the podcast that others recommend to me that is any way connected to a roulette/post-roulette ,for that reason.

You're a good man, Charlie Brown.
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Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 10:02:09 PM: I'd say anything new that Brent puts out there, I'll probably be ruthless enough to ban them right away.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2015, 10:10:36 PM: Atta boy!

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Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2015, 10:11:13 PM: Stay tuned for the "Everything That's Not in Brent's Wolfking Roulette Playlist" podcast :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2015, 04:49:21 AM: Good, a wolfking friendly playlist with no surprises. :biggrin:

Damn, Ready to Strike by King Kobra was amazing. Another band I never really got into. I have one of their albums from just a few years ago, but it was ordinary. Gotta get into the Mark Free stuff.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 04:52:12 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 07, 2015, 04:49:21 AM
Good, a wolfking friendly playlist with no surprises. :biggrin:

Damn, Ready to Strike by King Kobra was amazing. Another band I never really got into. I have one of their albums from just a few years ago, but it was ordinary. Gotta get into the Mark Free stuff.

The self titled from 2011 was pretty good. Their most recent has a couple of good tracks, but isn't as strong from what I remember.
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2015, 04:53:50 AM: That's the one I have I'm pretty sure, the self titled. I should go back and spin it again then.

NP: Brent's podcast - MK - When the Sky Falls. :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 05:00:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 07, 2015, 04:53:50 AM
That's the one I have I'm pretty sure, the self titled. I should go back and spin it again then.

It's a solid album. Not one of the best recent rock albums, but worth another chance.

And listen to Whisky Fingers dammit.
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2015, 05:04:20 AM: I'll probably order it first, as I definitely want to buy it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 05:06:12 AM: Good man. :hat
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Post by: Lowdz on December 07, 2015, 08:06:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 07, 2015, 04:49:21 AM
Good, a wolfking friendly playlist with no surprises. :biggrin:

Damn, Ready to Strike by King Kobra was amazing. Another band I never really got into. I have one of their albums from just a few years ago, but it was ordinary. Gotta get into the Mark Free stuff.

I've heard bits and pieces of KK over the years but nothing that grabbed me. That track is awesome and I didn't recognise it. Will listen to the 2nd half later.
Great job. Might send a request in for the next one. Thanks for the name check - I feel famous :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2015, 01:28:20 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 05:06:12 AM
Good man. :hat

Going to blind purchase it based on your liking of the album. :hat
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 08:10:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 07, 2015, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 05:06:12 AM
Good man. :hat

Going to blind purchase it based on your liking of the album. :hat

Making a music purchasing decision based on my opinion? You must be brave. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2015, 08:22:04 PM: Revolution Saints..................Blood Red Saints.................next up Resurrection Kings. Their project naming department is as stale as half of the music ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 08:23:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2015, 08:22:04 PM
Revolution Saints..................Blood Red Saints.................next up Resurrection Kings. Their project naming department is as stale as half of the music ;D

They clearly need to stick a fresh batch of words into the Frontiers random band name generator. :lol

I am actually looking forward to the Resurrection Kings album being decent when it comes out though.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2015, 09:05:04 PM: Yeah , it's certainly got potential. Jake E Lee should've kept Chas West for Red Dragon Carousel.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 07, 2015, 09:06:13 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2015, 09:05:04 PM
Yeah , it's certainly got potential. Jake E Lee should've kept Chas West for Red Dragon Carousel.

yeah, Chas was clearly the best out of the 28 singers that have been in RDC.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 09:11:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2015, 09:05:04 PM
Yeah , it's certainly got potential. Jake E Lee should've kept Chas West for Red Dragon Carousel.

Yep. It's a shame Jake E Lee can't get it together, because I reckon he's still got it in him to make a good album.
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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2015, 04:25:08 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2015, 09:05:04 PM
Yeah , it's certainly got potential. Jake E Lee should've kept Chas West for Red Dragon Carousel.

Yep. It's a shame Jake E Lee can't get it together, because I reckon he's still got it in him to make a good album.

He does, as long as it's not with RDC.
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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2015, 04:39:14 AM: Still nutting through Brent's podcast with just the half an hour or so I have at the moment at night.

That Saidian was pretty decent too. I noticed the Tobi influnece right away, old school Tobi influence that is.

That Timo Tolkki comment was gold.

That Ryche track was pretty good. Better than the bonus track we got on the cd IMO.

Ben's got some good taste in music for a young fella.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 08, 2015, 04:47:35 PM: Just finished the Ben Show podcast. Great work again.
Enjoyed the Queensryche bonus track but I guess it wouldn't have added anything to the album. Both bonus tracks I've now heard were pretty good.
The Saidian track was good.

And Brent, you're going to have to dig the guitar out to teach Ben if he's going to be digging Paul Gilbert :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on December 08, 2015, 05:05:17 PM: Thanks guys - I thought the Condition Human track I played on the show was clearly the better of the two in the deluxe vinyl edition , so you guys have now heard all that is worth hearing IMO.

I have the next show very roughly planned out and expect to have the editing/mixing/talking done before Xmas. If you want something played on it ,now would be the time.

Had anyone heard that Van Halen demo before? And speaking of VH the talk is getting stronger about Roth out/Hagar being at least talked to.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 08, 2015, 05:08:22 PM: I haven't heard anything about the VH rumour. Is Eddie and Dave fighting again?? It seems like Eddie dislikes both Dave and Sammy, and he picks would he dislikes the least to sing for him
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Post by: bl5150 on December 08, 2015, 05:14:31 PM: I don't think there is any more dislike than usual with Roth and EVH - they "get along" these days but keep their distance to make sure it stays that way.

There's just too many tidbits floating around at the moment for it not to mean something:

- talk that Roth's contract has ended and won't be renewed
- Eddie has been quoted as saying he is resurrecting the Steinberger guitars and "wants to play those songs again". Those guitars were used around 86 for songs like Summer Nights

- Eddie Trunk (big grain of salt) has reported that there is some sort of cooling of the situation between Ed and Sammy

We'll see ........and I wasted sooooooo much time on unsubstantiated VH rumours in the 2000's that I eventually gave up on them but it does seem that something is up , even if it's early days. Sammy isn't getting any younger so they best hurry up.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 08, 2015, 05:20:10 PM: Maybe a completely new singer is what Van Halen needs. The drama with these guys is ridiculous. Funny, but ridiculous
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2015, 06:33:41 PM: Listening to the podcast.

What a great Y&T tune.
Haven't heard Night Songs in AGES!

Never heard the VH demo. We Die BOLD? WTF? :lol
Musically it's not bad. I can see why it didn't make the album!
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 08, 2015, 06:38:37 PM: Brent is neck and neck with Dee Snider for playing the best tunes!!!

And I know VH tried unsuccessfully in the 90s with Gary, but that seemed like a more unforgiving era for new singers coming into established bands. As Accept and QR have shown, fans are willing to give new singers a chance. I was thinking that Russell Allen would be an awesome choice to sing for VH; he would do both eras justice
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2015, 06:43:06 PM: Russ Allen in VH? Huh.

Bet he'd sound good in Accept.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 08, 2015, 06:58:20 PM: I always thought Jeff Scott Soto would've been ace for Van Halen- he can do a great Roth and has the pipes to carry off Sammy pretty well. If they just wanted to do Roth stuff then it's Ralph Saenz all the way for me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 08, 2015, 07:03:22 PM: I don't think a Roth clone would go over that well. They would need a neutral singer that can do all material from the band
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2015, 07:11:09 PM: Back to the podcast..

Spinal Tap!! :metal

The Warlord tune was cool. William Tsamis has a Randy Rhoads feel. Kade, did you know that Joquim Cans sang on one of their albums? It's actually pretty cool.

I caught that nod in the intro to Ozzy! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 08, 2015, 07:20:47 PM: Spinal Tap rules!!!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 08, 2015, 07:54:33 PM: And Sirius XM should hire Brent!
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 08, 2015, 08:36:36 PM: ... and Ben!
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Post by: Big Hath on December 08, 2015, 09:59:44 PM: awesome podcasts so far! I've listened to the first and am about a quarter through the second.

I'm making a list of the songs in each playlist and rating each song as if I were listening to them for a roulette as I don't really have a lot of this stuff. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2015, 10:36:25 PM: Brent, can you kindly post the link to the first podcast again?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 08, 2015, 10:38:30 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 08, 2015, 10:36:25 PM
Brent, can you kindly post the link to the first podcast again?

All indexed in the OP Kade.
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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2015, 10:46:31 PM: Thanks champ.

I might not even need to do a roulette, Brent's giving me enough new stuff now. :biggrin:
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 08, 2015, 11:56:47 PM: I've also heard some VH rumors but I don't know what to make of it. Even if they talk with Sammy there's still the Michael Anthony case and I'm not sure if Sammy will return without Michael and Eddie is never going to throw his own son out of his band.

You could make a long running drama series out of this.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 09, 2015, 12:01:13 AM: I haven't heard any rumours, and I don't put much stock in internet rumours until there's some proof.
I don't want them to fall out with DLR (although it was a tentative business relationship at best anyway), but I would like to hear Hagar record another VH album, given how excellent ADKOT was, and how great Hagar's songs were on the Best of Both Worlds compilation back in 2004.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 09, 2015, 01:34:04 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 09, 2015, 12:01:13 AM
... but I would like to hear Hagar record another VH album, given how excellent ADKOT was, ...

+1 to that although I think the chances are slim
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2015, 04:28:45 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 08, 2015, 07:11:09 PM
Kade, did you know that Joquim Cans sang on one of their albums? It's actually pretty cool.

Yeah I realised that when Jason mentioned it a page of so back. I knew the name was familiar.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 09, 2015, 04:30:58 AM: I can't say I'm interested in another VH reunion. I like them well enough, both eras (the .Cherone album was shite on first listen, never been back), but Eddie has run out of any inspiration in the early 90s.

Unless spammy is full of shit any reunion would need Michael Anthony involved.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2015, 04:39:52 AM: Update from TMac;

Hello my friends, I would like to say hello to you all and wish you the best during this holiday season. Regardless of whether you are near or far, this is the time of the year that brings friends and family together.

It has been a while since I have had the energy to write, so I will take this time to give you an update of sorts, a small window into some of my daily activities at this point.

Two months after my surgery on August 28th, I have been strictly following the course of these excellent Doctors of Medicine, and progress is being achieved at a rate they as well as I am encouraged by. It is a difficult routine that I must endure for many more months that involves a very intense series of drug therapies and constant analytical procedures that are overwhelmingly draining because of their brutal side effects, but my eyes and heart are on the big picture which is recovery.

More often than not the biggest hurdle is knowing that after you engage yourself in this fight - this battle on a weekly schedule - you still must reserve some energy to think positive, as that is a very important and necessary mechanic in this healing process.

Your prayers, messages and positive energy are not going unnoticed, and although I have quite a long road ahead, it is not traveled alone, as I have all of you there for support. And I thank you all for that!

I will touch base and give you further updates soon.

Tony MacAlpine

Don't know what to make of it. Sounds like he's in a rough way. His mind is strong and I really hope he can get through this.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2015, 04:45:52 AM: It doesn't sound great - hopefully his positive attitude in combination with the treatment and everyone getting in his corner will add up to a positive outcome.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2015, 04:53:37 AM: Yeah, let's hope so. :(
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2015, 04:58:27 AM: Only just noticed.........happy 100th page guys :metardica:
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2015, 05:45:18 AM: :metardica: :metardica: :metardica:
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2015, 08:34:29 AM: Getting through the second half of the podcast this morning.

I have never heard of Mark Free. Brent, was he the original vocalist for KK? I never even gave them a chance. Sampled a little back in the day and it seemed a little generic. It seemed like Camine Appice's lame attempt to cash in on what was going on at the time.

It's great to hear Tony Martin. What the hell has he really been doing all these years?

That Nation tune was awesome. After listening, I was waiting to hear what band it was. That's two songs that didn't disappoint. Had some cheesy vocals in the chorus but that musical break was outstanding. Brent, you may be getting an email on them.

I actually saw Love/Hate open for AC/DC.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2015, 08:40:47 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 09, 2015, 08:34:29 AM

I have never heard of Mark Free. Brent, was he the original vocalist for KK? I never even gave them a chance. Sampled a little back in the day and it seemed a little generic. It seemed like Camine Appice's lame attempt to cash in on what was going on at the time.

Yes............Mark was the original. The first album Ready To Strike was pretty rockin stuff . I like the second one too but it's quite different and more AOR/melodic rock ,so perhaps that's where you stumbled onto them - that album had the song Never Say Die (Iron Eagle) from the movie soundtrack and it was all very commercial.

Even that Soldiers of The Night song from Black Roses is overly cheesy , but I put it in there so you could hear some of the powerful highs he hits.................killer singer.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2015, 09:00:29 AM: I know I did not give the first album much chance. There seemed to be a whole ton if bands coming out at the time and I was pretty skeptical. Maybe include a track from it next time.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2015, 09:04:41 AM: Okay........just to be clear the track I played on the last show was from the debut (title track). Will put another in the next show for you.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2015, 09:25:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2015, 09:04:41 AM
Okay........just to be clear the track I played on the last show was from the debut (title track). Will put another in the next show for you.

It was OK. It isn't something that would've appealed to me back then. No need to do another track on my behalf. :)
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Post by: Lowdz on December 09, 2015, 04:51:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 09, 2015, 08:34:29 AM
Getting through the second half of the podcast this morning.

I have never heard of Mark Free. Brent, was he the original vocalist for KK? I never even gave them a chance. Sampled a little back in the day and it seemed a little generic. It seemed like Camine Appice's lame attempt to cash in on what was going on at the time.

It's great to hear Tony Martin. What the hell has he really been doing all these years?

That Nation tune was awesome. After listening, I was waiting to hear what band it was. That's two songs that didn't disappoint. Had some cheesy vocals in the chorus but that musical break was outstanding. Brent, you may be getting an email on them.

I actually saw Love/Hate open for AC/DC.

I thought the Nation song was a giant hodgepodge of different bits all stuck together in one song. Just when I thought I knew what was going on another bit came in that bore no resemblance to what was going on. I sort of liked all the bits but it was a bit busy...
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2015, 05:48:19 PM: The Nation song was alright, but nothing special IMO.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2015, 06:52:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 09, 2015, 05:48:19 PM
The Nation song was alright, but nothing special IMO.
I loved the musical break in it. The only thing I didn't like was the cheesy vocals in the chorus, but everything else was great.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 09, 2015, 07:43:51 PM: The first King Kobra album, Ready to Strike, is a very rocking release. I only heard the second one once, and it was pretty light and fluffy if I remember.

Mark Free had a sex change and became Marcie Free.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2015, 07:46:59 PM: The first I ever heard or saw Mark/Marcie Free, was the Very First Time video from the last Unruly Child album. Didn't know a single thing and saw that video. I gotta admit, I loled pretty hard and couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was pretty weird.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 09, 2015, 07:50:01 PM: Mark had one of the defining 80s rock voices IMO. Didnt have a lot of success, but should have been bigger.

Black Roses is a classic/cheesy horror movie/soundtrack.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 10, 2015, 10:33:39 PM: First full track from Nordic Union

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v636I5HHew

Sounds like what it is I suppose..........a bit of a hybrid of Eclipse and Pretty Maids.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2015, 04:31:25 AM: Could Martensson come up with anything more recycled and uninspired than this, especially when he has such a great singer at the helm? Ronnie makes this listenable, but this is just a fille WET or Eclipse track.

I'm still excited for the album and I'm sure I'll like it, but come on.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2015, 04:33:51 AM: Check that Nordic Union song, then check this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZVuvKattHM
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Post by: bl5150 on December 11, 2015, 04:40:07 AM: Yeah,...........and I remember the first time I heard that W.E.T. song actually and I thought to myself "If I hear Soto sing one more song about Walk Away, Don't Walk Away etc............" ::) Just going through the motions. I really miss Talisman as they generally didn't write stuff that sounded like it was off a production line.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2015, 04:54:07 AM: The first WET album was so fucking good and the second was actually really fucking bad. I'm easy to please with this sort of stuff but that album sucked. I hope there is better songs than this though, Ronnie sounds great. He deserves more exciting songwritiing than this. Not really good enough.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 11, 2015, 06:19:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 11, 2015, 04:31:25 AM
Could Martensson come up with anything more recycled and uninspired than this, especially when he has such a great singer at the helm? Ronnie makes this listenable, but this is just a fille WET or Eclipse track.

I'm still excited for the album and I'm sure I'll like it, but come on.

Damn... I don't even want to check that link out now. I had some decent hopes for this. Guess not now.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 11, 2015, 06:36:11 AM: I guess it's hard to be awesome when you're churning out so many songs for so many projects. I thought the song was ok.
Frontiers are diluting their pool of great stuff. They need more bands, not projects.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 11, 2015, 08:19:18 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 11, 2015, 06:36:11 AM
I guess it's hard to be awesome when you're churning out so many songs for so many projects. I thought the song was ok.
Frontiers are diluting their pool of great stuff. They need more bands, not projects.

Word.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 11, 2015, 11:55:51 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 10, 2015, 10:33:39 PM
First full track from Nordic Union

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v636I5HHew

Sounds like what it is I suppose..........a bit of a hybrid of Eclipse and Pretty Maids.

Well, now... this wasn't terrible.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2015, 03:47:01 PM: Okay, so why have I only listened to this song once yet the chorus and guitar riff thing keeps popping into my head.

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 11, 2015, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 10, 2015, 10:33:39 PM
First full track from Nordic Union

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v636I5HHew

Sounds like what it is I suppose..........a bit of a hybrid of Eclipse and Pretty Maids.

Well, now... this wasn't terrible.

No, it's actually very decent, and Ronnie still makes me excited for this project. But my main initial issue was that Martensson has basically become as stale as Tolkki when it comes to recycling riffs and song structures and ideas, only the quality is at a high standard instead of no standard at all.

Once I get my head what we're getting here, I'll enjoy it. Maybe I expected something new with this, but that idea has been squashed. I guess Martensson will never recreate the magic with the songs he wrote for the Toby Hitchcock album.
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2015, 03:57:40 PM: I get so skeptical about all of these projects that guys do. To me, just make an album with your own damn band.

So I wasn't expecting much here, but this song is actually pretty good. I like Atkins here. A lot.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2015, 04:56:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 11, 2015, 03:57:40 PM
I get so skeptical about all of these projects that guys do. To me, just make an album with your own damn band.

So I wasn't expecting much here, but this song is actually pretty good. I like Atkins here. A lot.

He makes this recycled generic song very very good actually.
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2015, 04:58:06 PM: He really does, and I'm not a huge Atkins fan.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 11, 2015, 05:24:39 PM: I liked that tune as well!
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2015, 05:32:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 11, 2015, 04:58:06 PM
He really does, and I'm not a huge Atkins fan.

I've only been into them since the time Pandemonium came out and it's unreal how much his voice has improved. The old stuff is pretty cool, but listening to some of the early 2000 albums, his voice on those albums sound weak to me. I'd like more re-records like Louder Than Ever. They seemed to have stepped up everything from vox, guitars, production, everything in their sound from Pandemonium .
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 11, 2015, 06:37:04 PM: I guess given that I don't know all of Martensson's stuff helps me not hear this as 'recycled' the way you do Kade.
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Post by: Big Hath on December 11, 2015, 09:03:27 PM: from podcast #1 here are the songs I rated 8.5 or higher that I didn't already know (basically half the show!)

9.5
Pretty Maids - Until it Dies
Armored Saint - Tainted Past

9.0
Running Wild - Rolling Wheels
Judas Priest - A Touch of Evil
Europe - Break Free

8.5
Vanden Plas - Push
Guardian - Time and Time Again
Nation - Nation
Lizzy Borden - Voyeur
Firehouse - Reach for the Sky
Destinations Calling - Revolution in Mind
Vicious Rumors - When Love Comes Down

Are these songs fairly representative of their respective albums or are some of these outliers on an album with a lot of dreck?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2015, 09:11:08 PM: You included Europe - Break Free? Great song, great album. :tup
I still haven't checked out these podcasts yet!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2015, 04:38:33 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on December 11, 2015, 09:03:27 PM
from podcast #1 here are the songs I rated 8.5 or higher that I didn't already know (basically half the show!)

9.5
Pretty Maids - Until it Dies
Armored Saint - Tainted Past

9.0
Running Wild - Rolling Wheels
Judas Priest - A Touch of Evil
Europe - Break Free

8.5
Vanden Plas - Push
Guardian - Time and Time Again
Nation - Nation
Lizzy Borden - Voyeur
Firehouse - Reach for the Sky
Destinations Calling - Revolution in Mind
Vicious Rumors - When Love Comes Down

Are these songs fairly representative of their respective albums or are some of these outliers on an album with a lot of dreck?

Without going into great detail , the only band in there that is very patchy IMO is Running Wild. The rest , for the most part, generally produce albums I would rate as half killer/half filler at worst.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2015, 05:16:32 AM: Post deleted.........just tried a new Christmas avatar (just for Tim) but I couldn't live with it for more than 5 mins :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2015, 05:45:13 AM: :lol

Can someone make it snow in my avatar for Christmas? That'd be cool.

Yes, Running Wild is patchy, but it was good to hear them.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 12, 2015, 06:05:25 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on December 11, 2015, 09:03:27 PM
from podcast #1 here are the songs I rated 8.5 or higher that I didn't already know (basically half the show!)

9.5
Pretty Maids - Until it Dies
Armored Saint - Tainted Past

9.0
Running Wild - Rolling Wheels
Judas Priest - A Touch of Evil
Europe - Break Free

8.5
Vanden Plas - Push
Guardian - Time and Time Again
Nation - Nation
Lizzy Borden - Voyeur
Firehouse - Reach for the Sky
Destinations Calling - Revolution in Mind
Vicious Rumors - When Love Comes Down

Are these songs fairly representative of their respective albums or are some of these outliers on an album with a lot of dreck?

And with Firehouse, go with the s/t debut. I found Hold Your Fire to have quite a bit of filler. Their subsequent albums were pretty good though - but, like all glam bands, the mid/late 90s didn't give them much exposure at all.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2015, 06:11:43 AM: Nah, stick with Hold Your Fire. Solid album. Didn't like anything else they did.
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2015, 06:20:01 AM: Nice to see Hath rate Armored Saint 9.5, and a certain suck song didn't even make the list. Hath knows what's up!

Not into Firehouse. And I definitely didn't like Voyuer.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2015, 06:24:14 AM: Hath has already heard the awesome song - that's why it didn't make the list ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2015, 06:25:31 AM: What especially awesome classic song are we talking about?
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2015, 06:29:45 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2015, 06:24:14 AM
Hath has already heard the awesome song - that's why it didn't make the list ;D

I'm not listening! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2015, 06:35:18 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2015, 06:25:31 AM
What especially awesome classic song are we talking about?

It's a number between 10 and 20
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2015, 06:37:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2015, 06:35:18 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2015, 06:25:31 AM
What especially awesome classic song are we talking about?

It's a number between 10 and 20

It's a number that both 10 and 20 have in common.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2015, 06:38:27 AM: :lol I wish I could put my Christmas avatar into your Profile..........then I could live with it :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2015, 06:39:40 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2015, 06:35:18 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2015, 06:25:31 AM
What especially awesome classic song are we talking about?

It's a number between 10 and 20

If I were to take a complete stab in the dark, I'd say it's a number that if it were represented as an age, would be legal in some places, but not legal in others.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 12, 2015, 09:38:51 AM: From what I've heard from Running Wild, they appear to be solid, but patchy seems accurate.

The s/t from Firehouse is the way to go; besides Reach for the Sky, Hold Your Fire did nothing for me.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 12, 2015, 02:14:33 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2015, 06:11:43 AM
Nah, stick with Hold Your Fire. Solid album. Didn't like anything else they did.

I'd say the first two are excellent but both albums have a couple of tracks that aren't in the same league. Nothing much of note after that apart from the track Acid Rain.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 12, 2015, 02:16:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 12, 2015, 09:38:51 AM
From what I've heard from Running Wild, they appear to be solid, but patchy seems accurate.

The s/t from Firehouse is the way to go; besides Reach for the Sky, Hold Your Fire did nothing for me.
ive heard MP hates the snare... :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2015, 03:34:34 AM: I have one Firehouse album, but I'm not sure which one it is. It didn't do anything for me though.

I have a Running Wild compilation and I didn't think that was all that special either.

Still need to check Armored Saint from you guys only saying good things about them.

Good song I see there from the Carpe Diem album from Pretty Maids, good stuff.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 13, 2015, 03:52:06 AM: Armored Saint needs to be at the top of your list Kade
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2015, 04:38:44 AM: I don't own anything from them, so that's definitely one band that will be available in my roulette.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 13, 2015, 05:30:00 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 13, 2015, 03:52:06 AM
Armored Saint needs to be at the top of your list Kade

That's right... you keep on recommending your best stuff for him now. NOW dammit. :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on December 13, 2015, 07:11:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 13, 2015, 04:38:44 AM
I don't own anything from them, so that's definitely one band that will be available in my roulette.

Sent for Round 1!
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 13, 2015, 10:04:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 13, 2015, 07:11:57 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 13, 2015, 04:38:44 AM
I don't own anything from them, so that's definitely one band that will be available in my roulette.

Sent for Round 1!

Sent for prelims!!
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2015, 10:19:20 PM: haha slow down boys.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 14, 2015, 06:09:51 AM: Another Primal Fear song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li_5KB5QuW4&feature=youtu.be

I don't like it near as much as The End is Near, but I like it a lot more than the second song. Decent.
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Post by: Bolsters on December 14, 2015, 06:14:14 AM: Sounds like Primal Fear.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 14, 2015, 06:48:10 AM: For anyone who missed Tim's Christmas avatar..............I managed to capture it before he deleted it.

(https://s13.postimg.org/bllvlxffr/timxmas.jpg)
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 14, 2015, 07:25:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 14, 2015, 06:48:10 AM
For anyone who missed Tim's Christmas avatar..............I managed to capture it before he deleted it.

(https://s13.postimg.org/bllvlxffr/timxmas.jpg)

:rollin
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 14, 2015, 08:18:22 AM: Great Primal Fear tune!
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2015, 08:42:04 AM: I just turned Jewish!
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Post by: Big Hath on December 14, 2015, 11:04:18 AM: ok, here is the podcast #2 list of songs I rated 8.5 or higher that I didn't already know

9.0
Waysted - Heroes Die Young
Crimson Glory - Lonely

8.5
Testament - The Electric Crown
Y&T - Surrender
King Kobra - Ready To Strike
Bonfire - Ready 4 Reaction
Saidian - Pale Moon Rider
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2015, 11:36:02 AM: Good call on Waysted Hath. I can't tell you how special of a band they are to me.

King Kobra is rated a little high though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 14, 2015, 02:43:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 14, 2015, 11:36:02 AM
Good call on Waysted Hath. I can't tell you how special of a band they are to me.

King Kobra is rated a little high though.

Don't know much about Waysted. Im gonna check them out.
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2015, 02:47:39 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 14, 2015, 02:43:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 14, 2015, 11:36:02 AM
Good call on Waysted Hath. I can't tell you how special of a band they are to me.

King Kobra is rated a little high though.

Don't know much about Waysted. Im gonna check them out.

No. I'm using them in yours and Kade's roulette.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 14, 2015, 02:55:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 14, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 14, 2015, 02:43:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 14, 2015, 11:36:02 AM
Good call on Waysted Hath. I can't tell you how special of a band they are to me.

King Kobra is rated a little high though.

Don't know much about Waysted. Im gonna check them out.

No. I'm using them in yours and Kade's roulette.

lol.......while then I won't tell you that I'm checking out Vices and won't say it sounds great and that the album cover is very cool
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2015, 03:14:45 PM: Don't listen to Night Of The Wolf! :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2015, 03:24:24 PM: Seriously, the first two albums plus the EP they did with Fin on vocals were great. I wore them out when I was a kid. Fin was awesome.
I was so bummed to learn the record company dumped him for Danny Vaughan, trying to capitalize on the hair metal market in the US. So funny to see Pete Way and Paul Chapman with poofed up hair for the Heaven Tonight video.
But I will say that Danny Vaughan's performance on Save Your Prayers is spectacular. He totally won me over. Phenomenal stuff.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 14, 2015, 03:46:00 PM: 2nd track from Last in Line. Much better than the first and Viv finally rocks on the solo. I really didn't think he had it in him.
I do think it lacks the keyboards that were used to, to round out the sound. Great vocal too.

https://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=1thdd26dl#/watch?v=hjau_WN2v3U&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2015, 07:59:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 14, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 14, 2015, 02:43:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 14, 2015, 11:36:02 AM
Good call on Waysted Hath. I can't tell you how special of a band they are to me.

King Kobra is rated a little high though.

Don't know much about Waysted. Im gonna check them out.

No. I'm using them in yours and Kade's roulette.

They are pretty high on my radar thanks to Brent now, might not get the chance.
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Post by: TAC on December 15, 2015, 03:23:32 AM: Oh I'll get the chance mother :censored.
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2015, 04:06:02 AM: hahaha.
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2015, 04:21:51 AM: Another PF song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li_5KB5QuW4

Not much going on here, but a short punchy track that might work well in the flow of the album.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 15, 2015, 04:24:18 AM: I already posted it on the previous page. :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2015, 02:59:26 PM: Wow, am I getting slow or what. :lol

The End is Near is really killer, that's still my fav of the three too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 15, 2015, 07:46:10 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 15, 2015, 04:21:51 AM
Another PF song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li_5KB5QuW4

Not much going on here, but a short punchy track that might work well in the flow of the album.

There are some comments saying that the beginning sounds like Breaking the Law. Maybe a little, but the song is very solid overall. You know what you are getting with Primal Fear. Straight up kick ass metal.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 15, 2015, 08:27:38 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 15, 2015, 02:59:26 PM
Wow, am I getting slow or what. :lol

The End is Near is really killer, that's still my fav of the three too.

I'm still listening to that one a lot. Gonna get the album based on that alone.

I also though the intro sounded a bit like Breaking the Law, but didn't mention it since the song didn't otherwise sound like it imo.
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2015, 09:18:39 PM: First two or three notes, but nothing really other than that. Reminds me of Real World by Gamma Ray.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 15, 2015, 09:22:26 PM: After re-listening to the two tracks off the upcoming Inglorious album, I'm actually quite anticipating that one now. I think it should at least be a solid hard rock album.
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2015, 09:27:59 PM: I think I heard one song and didn't really like it. Might check it out again though.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 15, 2015, 09:33:46 PM: I think you probably heard the one with the music video. Neither song is the greatest or most original song, but with those vocals and the production and energy, I still find them enjoyable. I'll definitely be checking out the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJTdvTfEFGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_wSMHZZi8w
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2015, 09:45:01 PM: I'll check them out tonight but yeah, I think I remember it now. It was well performed I just found it pretty generic and not that interesting, but I'll check these ones out.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 15, 2015, 09:57:17 PM: Yeah, a bit on the generic side, but as I said, I dug everything else about them, so I still enjoyed the songs. If the whole album is at the same level, I'll probably like it. I think they'll be one to watch in future as they develop too.
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Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2015, 04:16:33 AM: Dunno who these guys are but sounds like some solid power metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCmTJr8twtQ
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Post by: Bolsters on December 16, 2015, 04:31:10 AM: There's so many bands with "Lords" or "Black" in the title, I'm not sure if I know of these guys or not. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2015, 07:01:02 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 14, 2015, 03:46:00 PM
2nd track from Last in Line. Much better than the first and Viv finally rocks on the solo. I really didn't think he had it in him.
I do think it lacks the keyboards that were used to, to round out the sound. Great vocal too.

https://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=1thdd26dl#/watch?v=hjau_WN2v3U&feature=youtu.be

Finally got around to checking this out. Solid song and more to my liking than the first. The rhythm guitar sound has zero balls though.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2015, 07:07:42 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 16, 2015, 04:16:33 AM
Dunno who these guys are but sounds like some solid power metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCmTJr8twtQ

The singer is the dude Blackmore got for Rainbow ain't he?
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Post by: Lowdz on December 16, 2015, 09:36:47 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 16, 2015, 07:07:42 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 16, 2015, 04:16:33 AM
Dunno who these guys are but sounds like some solid power metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCmTJr8twtQ

The singer is the dude Blackmore got for Rainbow ain't he?

He is. Their album is pretty good. Nothing earth shattering, but decent. A follow up should be good and will get some exposure now.

He'll need some balls to get up on the Rainbow stage. I hope he has some stage presence because Ritchie will be n a huff in the corner being all enigmatic.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 16, 2015, 09:39:00 AM: I thought the vocalist sounded sorta familiar. I gave that album a listen on Spotify, and it was an enjoyable but forgettable listen from what little I recall.
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Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2015, 09:55:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 16, 2015, 07:01:02 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 14, 2015, 03:46:00 PM
2nd track from Last in Line. Much better than the first and Viv finally rocks on the solo. I really didn't think he had it in him.
I do think it lacks the keyboards that were used to, to round out the sound. Great vocal too.

https://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=1thdd26dl#/watch?v=hjau_WN2v3U&feature=youtu.be

Finally got around to checking this out. Solid song and more to my liking than the first. The rhythm guitar sound has zero balls though.

I thought this too, so thin sounding.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2015, 11:27:47 PM: Another (slightly) Dio related project has just been signed by Frontiers..............Eisley/Goldy album coming in 2016. I assume this was born out of the Giuffria - free Giuffria reunion .
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Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2015, 04:20:31 AM: I've never heard any Giuffrua. Goldy is a great guitarist though.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 17, 2015, 11:44:20 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 16, 2015, 11:27:47 PM
Another (slightly) Dio related project has just been signed by Frontiers..............Eisley/Goldy album coming in 2016. I assume this was born out of the Giuffria - free Giuffria reunion .

The live clips I've seen we pretty good, though I'm not much of a Guiffria fan
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 17, 2015, 11:57:16 AM: From the songs that I've heard, Giuffria was pretty good. David Glen Eisley, the singer, has a great voice. Eisley was in another band called Sorcery. Has anyone else, especially Brent, heard of Sorcery? They were pretty good too.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2015, 03:25:56 PM: I have heard of them JJ - most likely via DG Eisley - but need to check if I have anything of theirs (might have). Looking at their discog it looks like 2 of their 3 main albums were movie soundtracks which is rather weird.

EDIT: So yeah ...........I have Sorcery 2 - the one with Eisley on and the non-soundtrack . Seems it's a "best of the rest" of tracks that were unreleased during Eisley's tenure
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Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2015, 03:45:26 PM: It looks like the RnR Hall of Fame have been beaten up by all the criticism of late and finally have decided to induct Deep Purple, Cheap Trick and Chicago. And NWA :rollin

Good luck getting all the Purple guys on the same stage.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 17, 2015, 04:18:13 PM: I've always quite liked the Dirty White Boy album he did back in the day.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2015, 04:37:29 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 17, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
I've always quite liked the Dirty White Boy album he did back in the day.

I thought of that while we were talking Eisley too , although I don't remember thinking it was anything great back in the day. Must revisit that one.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 17, 2015, 11:09:38 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 17, 2015, 03:45:26 PM
It looks like the RnR Hall of Fame have been beaten up by all the criticism of late and finally have decided to induct Deep Purple, Cheap Trick and Chicago. And NWA :rollin

Good luck getting all the Purple guys on the same stage.

It will probably only be the current lineup that shows up. I can imagine Blackmore snubbing them. But it would be fantastic if he showed up.
How the hell is Deep Purple not already in the RNR HOF? You can't even spell Rock and Roll without the Smoke on the Water riff.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2015, 11:15:24 PM: Well Morse/Airey aren't included , although that probably won't stop them turning up in the same way the current KISS guys did.

The RnRHoF is a joke and I wouldn't be surprised if a number of them snubbed it. I'm pretty sure Coverdale and Hughes will be there though :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 17, 2015, 11:24:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 17, 2015, 11:15:24 PM
Well Morse/Airey aren't included , although that probably won't stop them turning up in the same way the current KISS guys did.

Morse/Airey shouldn't be included, but they're still the current band and should be there, and I expect they'd actually let the current band play, unlike with KISS. I mean, what are the odds of them convincing Blackmore to join them in a performance?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2015, 11:26:30 PM: Perhaps if Gillan and the boys go fancy dress it could happen - wish I could photo shop some of the Purple guys in there :lol

(https://d7e012dv1u7iz.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2015/06/25172156/Blackmores-Night.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 18, 2015, 02:01:12 AM: Haha

But that is quite amazing that Deep Purple isn't already included in the HOF
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Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2015, 05:05:18 AM: Having a listen to Waysted's Save Your Prayers. About to crash for the night and up to Heroes Die Young, and so far Brent chose by far the best track. It's alright, nothing special though IMO. Danny is always reliable.
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Post by: TAC on December 18, 2015, 07:29:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 18, 2015, 05:05:18 AM
Having a listen to Waysted's Save Your Prayers. About to crash for the night and up to Heroes Die Young, and so far Brent chose by far the best track. It's alright, nothing special though IMO. Danny is always reliable.

Heroes Die Young is easily the best track on the album.
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Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2015, 03:24:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 18, 2015, 07:29:00 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 18, 2015, 05:05:18 AM
Having a listen to Waysted's Save Your Prayers. About to crash for the night and up to Heroes Die Young, and so far Brent chose by far the best track. It's alright, nothing special though IMO. Danny is always reliable.

Heroes Die Young is easily the best track on the album.

Hmmm....that's a shame, cause IMO the rest of the album doesn't come anywhere near the quality of this song.
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Post by: TAC on December 18, 2015, 04:44:52 PM: The album is definitely a let down from the previous one, but I felt that Danny Vaughan was incredible on it. And I loved Fin!
I just listened to it the other day and I still really enjoy it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 22, 2015, 07:47:29 AM: Ok, W.A.S.P. recommendations needed. I bought THC and TCI thanks to Kade. Spun Golgotha, and bought it. Spun Dominator and loved it. What else to I need to go with?
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 22, 2015, 07:49:20 AM: The debut and Crimson Idol without a doubt. Chad you will love CI no question and the debut is one of the definitions of 80s metal. Those were good buys you made, the first five albums are the best from what I heard
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Post by: emtee on December 22, 2015, 07:56:33 AM: The Last Command was my first WASP purchase way back in the day and still my favorite.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 22, 2015, 08:53:33 AM: Quote from: emtee on December 22, 2015, 07:56:33 AM
The Last Command was my first WASP purchase way back in the day and still my favorite.

I was a fan fromthe first single. Get the first and then you've pretty much got the best stuff. Lac was a big of a letdown but the best tracks from that and Electric Circus would make a great album. I lost track of them after the first Neon God album so can't really comment on those later albums up to Banylon.
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Post by: ozzy554 on December 22, 2015, 10:41:10 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 22, 2015, 07:47:29 AM
Ok, W.A.S.P. recommendations needed. I bought THC and TCI thanks to Kade. Spun Golgotha, and bought it. Spun Dominator and loved it. What else to I need to go with?

Check out Dying for the world.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2015, 05:33:24 AM: (https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/02/22/2F00951700000578-0-image-m-2_1449095282530.jpg)

Merry Christmas dudes :metal Hope you are all having a good "holiday season". Do you want the good news or the bad news?

The bad news (for me) is that the place I should be at the moment has been totalled by bushfires and so our little holiday is over before it started. Got down to the coast and was greeted by a mass evacuation of the coastal town of Lorne. Turn around and back home quick smart. So far 100+ homes lost but no lives ,which is some sort of miracle.

(https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/7054314-3x2-700x467.jpg)
(https://i.embed.ly/1/display/resize?key=1e6a1a1efdb011df84894040444cdc60&url=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent.cdninstagram.com%2Fhphotos-xaf1%2Ft51.2885-15%2Fe35%2F12362043_1687492738157988_1335472529_n.jpg&width=810)

The good news is that I now have time to do final edits and get the super dooper bumper edition Christmas podcast out in the next 24-48 hours or so :metal Just need to give it a listen and get into mp3 etc......
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 26, 2015, 05:35:57 AM: Damn. I'm glad nobody's been hurt, but if there's any bright side, at least it happened before you went.
The weather's been cool here all week, so I don't think there have been any fires around here.
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Post by: TAC on December 26, 2015, 06:42:02 AM: Merry Christmas to the coolest thread on DTF. Too bad your holiday was detoured, Brent. Definitely looking forward to the podcast!!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 26, 2015, 07:37:25 AM: Glad to hear nobodies hurt from that.

And this is an award winning thread, greatest thread of all time!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 26, 2015, 12:22:50 PM: Happy Boxing Day!!

Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2015, 06:42:02 AM
Merry Christmas to the coolest thread on DTF. Too bad your holiday was detoured, Brent. Definitely looking forward to the podcast!!!

Damn straight... the regulars in this thread are easily my favorite members on DTF. Too bad we're all spread throughout the globe.
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Post by: Big Hath on December 26, 2015, 01:13:38 PM: where is everyone located by the way? I'm in Texas, near Dallas.

TAC is near Boston, right? Jingle is near Toronto? Brent and Wolfie down under, but I don't know which cities.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 26, 2015, 03:34:55 PM: Jeez Brent, that's awful. Here in the old country it hasn't stopped pissing down for weeks. We have floods in the north of England. We're in the south at the moment but have to travel through it tomorrow.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2015, 03:45:29 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 26, 2015, 03:34:55 PM
Jeez Brent, that's awful. Here in the old country it hasn't stopped pissing down for weeks. We have floods in the north of England. We're in the south at the moment but have to travel through it tomorrow.

The weather certainly seems to be getting more extreme. We also just had our wettest day in a year here which no doubt helped out the fire situation. Although they're saying it's expected to be burning for months anyway.

Speaking of pissing I almost piss myself laughing when we get stories on our news down here of a 30-32 degree heatwave passing through England . Last summer we had an overnight low higher than that :P And we whinge down here when we get a "cold snap" with some days down near zero celsius which I imagine would elicit the same response from some of you guys :)

As far as location goes Hath I am in the suburbs of Melbourne and I think Wolfie is close enough to Brisbane. So if I wanted to pop around the corner and pay Kade a visit that would be a 20-24 hour freeway drive (allowing for a couple of rest breaks) :-[
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Post by: TAC on December 26, 2015, 06:05:03 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 26, 2015, 12:22:50 PM
Too bad we're all spread throughout the globe.

I think that's the coolest thing!

Quote from: Big Hath on December 26, 2015, 01:13:38 PM
TAC is near Boston, right?

I live in a small town called West Bridgewater. It's about 25 miles due south of Boston.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 26, 2015, 06:21:59 PM: Winnipeg Manitoba Canada..............the coldest place on earth in the winter.

But the summers are crazy hot

So once again, Even Steven
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Post by: Prog Snob on December 26, 2015, 10:54:51 PM: Evening, gents.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 27, 2015, 12:20:27 AM: Evening mate..........if you're cruising around looking for pickingant in here then I think you'll be disappointed ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 27, 2015, 07:08:19 AM: Morning chaps.

*eagerly awaits B&B podcast*
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Post by: TAC on December 27, 2015, 07:19:40 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 27, 2015, 07:08:19 AM
Morning chaps.

*eagerly awaits B&B podcast*
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Post by: Bolsters on December 27, 2015, 07:25:57 AM: I still haven't gone through the first two properly yet, so I don't mind waiting a bit longer. :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 27, 2015, 07:27:58 AM: Is that a Taylor Swift avatar in the Hard Rock thread? Dude?
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Post by: Bolsters on December 27, 2015, 07:35:57 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 27, 2015, 07:27:58 AM
Is that a Taylor Swift avatar in the Hard Rock thread? Dude?
Haters gonna hate hate hate...? :neverusethis:
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Post by: Big Hath on December 27, 2015, 08:47:25 AM: I don't get the reference.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 27, 2015, 09:21:29 AM: Who's Taylor Swift?
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 27, 2015, 10:50:20 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on December 27, 2015, 08:47:25 AM
I don't get the reference.

Sadly, I did. It's actually a catchy song. Then again, influenza is catchy too. :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 27, 2015, 02:33:44 PM: Bolsters is a chick? :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on December 27, 2015, 02:45:07 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on December 26, 2015, 01:13:38 PM
where is everyone located by the way? I'm in Texas, near Dallas.

TAC is near Boston, right? Jingle is near Toronto? Brent and Wolfie down under, but I don't know which cities.

I'm in Lancaster in the north of England, near the Lake District. The only thing Lancaster is famous for is being the birthplace of John Waite. My dad knew him as a kid apparently.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 27, 2015, 04:28:25 PM: When I think of "Lancaster" , the bomber comes to mind.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 27, 2015, 04:43:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 27, 2015, 04:28:25 PM
When I think of "Lancaster" , the bomber comes to mind.

Indeed.
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Post by: Prog Snob on December 27, 2015, 05:15:39 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 27, 2015, 12:20:27 AM
Evening mate..........if you're cruising around looking for pickingant in here then I think you'll be disappointed ;D

:lol
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Post by: TAC on December 27, 2015, 05:23:41 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 27, 2015, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 27, 2015, 04:28:25 PM
When I think of "Lancaster" , the bomber comes to mind.

Indeed.

I don't get it.
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Post by: Bolsters on December 27, 2015, 08:14:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 27, 2015, 02:33:44 PM
Bolsters is a chick? :lol
(https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/tayno.gif~original)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 27, 2015, 08:55:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 27, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 27, 2015, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 27, 2015, 04:28:25 PM
When I think of "Lancaster" , the bomber comes to mind.

Indeed.

I don't get it.
The Lancaster Bomber

(https://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/E53020CD_5056_A318_A8CB4F249875D8CE.jpg)

And the new podcast...............I mention stuff like "last show before Christmas" but obviously it hasn't worked out as intended in that regard.

Hope you guys enjoy it..........should keep you going for a while.

https://mega.nz/#!vE0zyYbJ!960qxiulRjNVuOiOMuurYSOGLLI3inEkXrp9IkVfSTQ
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 28, 2015, 02:24:02 AM: So back at work for a few days and that gives me time to surf the net.

I hope you all had a very good christmas and Brent, sorry to hear that about your holiday.

I'm not that regular in this thread but if anyone is interested, I live in Germany in a smaller town called Sankt Augustin that is located south of Cologne. We are supposed to be in winter right now but the last few days we had around 15 degrees celsius and mostly sunshine. Definitely to warm for this kind of season.
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2015, 03:21:05 AM: Back after a couple of days away from a computer. Brent, those bushfires are just devastating, so sad seeing this on the news. Was lucky you didn't get caught in it. The weather up in Brisbane has been mild, quite cloudy and a bit of rain. Always happens this time of year.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2015, 05:22:07 AM: Downloaded, and listening to the podcast. Great first tune. :metal Though, you didn't change the tag of the file, and it's still named 'December 15 Podcast #2'. Had me worried it wasn't going to be the current one.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2015, 05:29:40 AM: That was more for my reference than anything and anyhow........ the last one was tagged "December podcast" and this is "December podcast # 2 " (the 2nd in December) . :P ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2015, 05:31:16 AM: Ah... copy that. The Decmber '15' threw me off.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2015, 08:07:34 AM: I should warn you Chad..........you get a mention in Ben's section. He noticed your avatar while we were doing the show and wanted to know who "funny guy" was :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 28, 2015, 09:39:34 AM: Chad is a joke maker
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2015, 11:43:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 28, 2015, 08:07:34 AM
I should warn you Chad..........you get a mention in Ben's section. He noticed your avatar while we were doing the show and wanted to know who "funny guy" was :lol

I'm good with being 5% hotter than Kim Jong-Il: Team America version.

I gotta re-listen to catch the two bands at around the 2:05 time.
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2015, 01:08:22 PM: Downloading now!
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2015, 01:41:44 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 28, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
Chad is a joke maker

:lol I was gonna post this exact quote.

Downloading now and will try and start listening tonight.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 28, 2015, 03:04:10 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 28, 2015, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 28, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
Chad is a joke maker

:lol I was gonna post this exact quote.

Downloading now and will try and start listening tonight.

As long as Chad isn't duped by Brody to bootleg Star Wars, its all good.
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2015, 01:23:42 PM: Listening to the Podcast now! :metal

Great start! And Alice Cooper :metal :metal :metal

Freedom is an awesome track. Willing to overlook a certain bass player here. :\

Yes, you used TTD in Round 1, Brent. Listened to my Round 1 CD a few weeks ago, in fact.

JSS was awesome on Marching Out. One of the best vocals I've ever heard. Not sure the other track with him did very much for me though. :)

Night Of The Long Knives is so great. My Song Of The Year for 2014.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 03:39:19 AM: It's not really the thread for it but some quick thoughts on the new Avantasia. I think it's a strong album and I'm not as big a fan of the style as many here so hopefully that's a good sign.

I have actually struggled with rating many of the songs (not normal for me) as most of them are in no man's land somewhere better than good but not quite excellent. The 12 minute epic has some great moments but I don't think it's excellent from start to finish....my attention wavered a couple of times.

What I will say is that I don't think there is a track I would call weak.......the bonus track Wake Up To The Moon is pretty good too.

At this early stage I would say that the tracks featuring Kiske are my faves (and he's pushing the limits of his range and nailing it). The Tate track is good.......he does a decent job and gets plenty of cover (low-ish in the mix and lots of backgrounds/fills from Tobi). I'm guessing there were plenty of takes and maybe some technology involved.

I need some more time with it . At this point I will rate it 82% with the potential to add a few points as a few more of the songs click.
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Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2015, 03:46:14 AM: Sounds good.

Thought I downloaded the podcast last night but it seemed it didn't work. Downloading now.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 30, 2015, 03:58:22 AM: Still a month to wait for the new Avantasia but what you say sounds good, I'm actually more excited than I thought I would be.

Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 03:39:19 AM
The Tate track is good.......he does a decent job and gets plenty of cover (low-ish in the mix and lots of backgrounds/fills from Tobi). I'm guessing there were plenty of takes and maybe some technology involved.

Tate's inclusion is something I still don't understand. I mean, I get that he was an idol for Tobi (as he was for me and many others) but that time is long gone. And now he's just one of the biggest a**holes in the whole metal scene and add to it the fact that he can't sing anymore and you have to help him with backing vocals and/or technology to sound decent, then why Tobi? Why?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 04:05:22 AM: Well H........Tobi is also a big fan of Bert and Ernie , so it was just too good to resist .
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 04:33:52 AM: Breaking news..................Harnell out of Skid Row. Bach or nuthin now. GnR/Skid Row tour? Bach and Axl are besties and would probably benefit the fortunes of both bands (one a lot more than the other of course)
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2015, 04:58:54 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 04:33:52 AM
Breaking news..................Harnell out of Skid Row. Bach or nuthin now. GnR/Skid Row tour? Bach and Axl are besties and would probably benefit the fortunes of both bands (one a lot more than the other of course)

I'd love to witness the back-stage drama there! I'd probably go just for shits and giggles if it was a small/cheap enough venue.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 05:00:23 AM: Just don't get tix too close to the stage as they both like a bit of biffo with the crowd at times :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 30, 2015, 05:07:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 04:33:52 AM
Breaking news..................Harnell out of Skid Row. Bach or nuthin now.

Damn, and I was hoping they'd at least manage an album worth checking out. :lol
You can't go through that many vocalists before people just don't care, and they stopped caring a long time ago. Bach or bust.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 30, 2015, 05:30:40 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 30, 2015, 03:46:14 AM
Sounds good.

Thought I downloaded the podcast last night but it seemed it didn't work. Downloading now.

Not just me then. I've downloaded it twice now and can't find it anywhere on the iPad.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 30, 2015, 06:19:03 AM: When I hear Skid Row news I'm always surprised that they still exist. They went completely under my radar after Bach left. But as with GnR I'm not sure if a reunion would spark my interest again, especially if it's only for touring and not making new music.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2015, 07:17:23 AM: Tony is a great singer but didn't fit with Skid Row at all IMO

It's Bach or nobody at this point. But this has to be a planned arrangement with the Gunners. Both reunited and touring together, it's the only thing that makes sense
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 07:20:13 AM: It may be nothing but it's pointing that way. Harnell is saying he was ignored/disrespected , Skid Row are announcing nothing to coincide with Harnell saying he quit and Bach isn't commenting. Sounds to me like Skid Row were negotiating behind his back and still are.
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Post by: Deathless on December 30, 2015, 07:50:26 AM: I honestly think Skid with Bach could make another really good album. I think too many older bands get comfortable and the result in the music is, well, bad.

But if Bach can still get Rachel riled up, maybe they can recreate a little bit of that old magic? The EP's they made weren't bad, Sollinger was really the weak point.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2015, 10:11:51 AM: I actually found it a little difficult to listen to Sollinger. Skid Row was such a kick ass band; to see them become this half ass punk modern rock band was sickening.

The fans want it- Bach is absolutely the only choice
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2015, 12:46:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 07:20:13 AM
Sounds to me like Skid Row were negotiating behind his back and still are.

I don't think there's any question.
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2015, 01:08:47 PM: Brent, a couple of questions from the podcast.

What was the band with Tony Mills? Did you say Siam? That was really good. Can you tell me about them?

And the next song was by Black Fate, which was excellent BTW. But you said the singer sounds a lot like _______. I have played it back about 5 times and I still don't know what you said. :lol What did you say?
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Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2015, 02:57:54 PM: Hopefully now Harnell can concentrate on the next Starbreaker album.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 30, 2015, 04:05:43 PM: Still haven't been able to listen but having that Black Fate album I'm guessing he compared the singer to Roy Khan.

I've only heard one track from Tony mills ' Siam, which is on a compilation sampler. He was going for a Queensryche vibe on it. Never checked them out as the song didn't grab me (signals of intuition?).
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 04:12:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 30, 2015, 01:08:47 PM
Brent, a couple of questions from the podcast.

What was the band with Tony Mills? Did you say Siam? That was really good. Can you tell me about them?

Yep.................Siam. As Paul mentioned they were obviously going for a Queensryche vibe and that suited me fine as Queensryche were pretty much over for me at that point. Apart from Tony Mills the rest of the guys in the band were not "names." They released two albums - The Language of Menace and Prayer. The songs on them are up and down but IMO the second is the more consistent. The best songs on both albums are very good and worth having IMHO.

Quote from: TAC on December 30, 2015, 01:08:47 PM

But you said the singer sounds a lot like _______. I have played it back about 5 times and I still don't know what you said. :lol What did you say?

"Khan" , as in Roy Khan from Kamelot. I think I said "he does a pretty mean.......Khan (impersonation)"
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2015, 04:34:18 PM: I only caught it because Zook sent me Black Fate in my roulette. One of the best songs I got. Loved it, and loved the album. Will likely be purchased. That one is on Spotify, Tim.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 05:22:06 PM: Well Skid Row have said they found out online about Harnell quitting (which explains the silence at their end) , they'll keep going and there's zero going on with Bach. They have been pretty strong on that the whole way through , so I'll take their word on that I suppose.

Red Dragon Row. They're done.
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2015, 05:54:52 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2015, 04:34:18 PM
I only caught it because Zook sent me Black Fate in my roulette. One of the best songs I got. Loved it, and loved the album. Will likely be purchased. That one is on Spotify, Tim.

I liked it a lot. I will check it out. Love the Tony Mills track too.

But Brent, the track with the chick singing was terrible! :lol

This podcast didn't seem as heavy.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 06:00:32 PM: Well..............it is a hard rock and metal show and so the heaviness is going to vary. I try to include everything from commercial hard rock/hair metal to (melodic)thrash and sometimes the balance is going to favor those of us who like commercial hard rock/hair metal and sometimes it'll favour the metalheads. I like it all :angel: In addition I also try and keep a good balance between classics and bands that might be new to most of you....hopefully that is about right.

The "chick singer" was Ben's choice and I sorta knew you would cringe , hence my comments at the end about Ben having license in his segment (to annoy Tim) :biggrin:

I am going to pass on your complaints to Ben so you can probably expect some Autograph in his segment next time. :neverusethis:

The next show (tracklist pretty much settled) will be a bit more focused - the Xmas show was pretty huge- and I will dial up the heaviness a touch.
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2015, 06:18:47 PM: Oh it was Ben's choice? Then in that case it was AWESOME!!!!!

I wasn't criticizing the show, but it was definitely mellower. I thought we'd hear some Christmas tunes though. There's plenty better than Lillian Sux. ;D

All kidding aside, I really enjoyed the show. Lots to chew on. I appreciate your time spent on it.

Chad, I saved the Black Fate for now. I'm going to give it one dedicated run through, but I would not be surprised if I bought it. I really liked it.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 06:22:48 PM: For some reason I have never bothered much with Christmas metal.............I have most of the main albums (as posted by jj in the album thread) but have never really bothered. Hopefully Ben's enthusiasm made up for my apathy :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2015, 06:23:41 PM: He has enthusiasm that's for sure! :tup

Check your email Re: Siam! :)
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2015, 06:42:44 PM: The only Christmas music I listen to is TSO.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 06:46:23 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2015, 06:42:44 PM
The only Christmas music I listen to is TSO.

I suppose that illustrates my attitude.................massive Savatage fan but barely even played TSO , even though I have a few of the albums.
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2015, 07:09:14 PM: Have you even played Savatage yet on your podcasts?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 07:16:25 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 30, 2015, 07:09:14 PM
Have you even played Savatage yet on your podcasts?

Nope - it won't be long though. I have made a conscious effort not to make it just about my favourite bands. I haven't even played W.A.S.P. yet , so there's plenty of my favourites not played to this point. Kip Winger's solo albums haven't been played either.
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2015, 07:41:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 07:16:25 PM
Kip Winger's solo albums haven't been played either.

No issue there! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2015, 08:52:06 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2015, 07:16:25 PM
Kip Winger's solo albums haven't been played either.

Well giddy up!
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Post by: Bolsters on December 30, 2015, 10:22:08 PM: Wasn't sure where to put this but here seems as good a place as any as some of you could be interested. For today only you can get three months of Spotify premium for 99 cents. So if anyone was considering giving premium a go, now might be a good time to try it out.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 31, 2015, 05:39:27 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on December 30, 2015, 10:22:08 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this but here seems as good a place as any as some of you could be interested. For today only you can get three months of Spotify premium for 99 cents. So if anyone was considering giving premium a go, now might be a good time to try it out.

I think it's the on-going promo with Spotify - at least it is here in Canada.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 31, 2015, 04:51:48 PM: All the best for 2016 folks. :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on December 31, 2015, 05:38:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 31, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
All the best for 2016 folks. :metal

Seconded.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 31, 2015, 06:41:52 PM: Happy New Years dudes!!
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Post by: TAC on December 31, 2015, 06:50:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 31, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
All the best for 2016 folks. :metal

Absolutely. How's 2016 so far?

Still 3 hours to go.
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Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2016, 03:32:28 AM: Yes, all the best to everyone also.

First day down and a good day for me, nice and pleasant, here's to a great rocking 2016! :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on January 01, 2016, 01:14:31 PM: I've been to a panto. Dragged kicking and screaming really. Sometimes. Hate having kids :lol

At the risk of sounding like my dad, it's a lot of fuss for just another day.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2016, 09:51:24 PM: OK.......new Primal Fear.

Headline reads "New Primal Fear..............Breaks Zero Rules" :neverusethis:

You know what you're going to get with these guys and that's often the problem for me with this style these days.........a lack of melodies within a very strict formula of crunchy riffs , lots of attitude but with little imagination. But as I have displayed in my roulette - when they get it right I love them. It just never usually happens on more than a track or two on each album , with a couple of exceptions.

Having said that (and without listening to Delivering The Black- relying on past ratings) I do like it a lot more than that album . Three quarters of the album is just typical Primal Fear - a good listen but no desire to hear it again. The few tracks that did show a bit more thought I really liked (We Walk Without Fear, The Sky Is Burning and Bullets & Tears).

I rated the last album around low 70's - this one I would give low 80's. A good example of the style , but if forced to decide I would rather listen to the recent Saxon album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 04, 2016, 02:05:39 AM: You know what youre getting with Primal Fear and I wouldn't want it any other way!
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2016, 04:29:20 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2016, 02:05:39 AM
You know what youre getting with Primal Fear and I wouldn't want it any other way!

Yeah brother.

Considering you you rate it higher than DTB and Jason and I speak so highly of it, we should like this a lot. Looking forward to it.
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2016, 04:31:50 AM: Getting slowly through Brent's second podcast and Brent, no I have never heard of that Aussie band. What was the name "In Venomed"? was it. Sounds quite incredible and very Bullet For My Valentine sounding actually. Great stuff.

Nice to see you pimping the Aussie classics too.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 04, 2016, 04:33:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 04, 2016, 04:31:50 AM
Getting slowly through Brent's second podcast and Brent, no I have never heard of that Aussie band. What was the name "In Venomed"? was it. Sounds quite incredible and very Bullet For My Valentine sounding actually. Great stuff.

Nice to see you pimping the Aussie classics too.

Thanks :D

The band in question is called Envenomed.
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2016, 05:02:48 AM: Cool, I'm definitely gonna have to check them out.
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Post by: TAC on January 04, 2016, 03:26:57 PM: In case anyone missed the Bravewords 2015 Top 30, here it is:

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BravePicks 2015 Top 30

1) SLAYER - Repentless (Nuclear Blast)
2) QUEENSRŸCHE - Condition Hüman (Century Media)
3) PARADISE LOST - The Plague Within (Century Media)
4) IRON MAIDEN - The Book Of Souls (Sanctuary/BMG)
5) ENSLAVED - In Times (Nuclear Blast)
6) GRAVE - Out Of Respect For The Dead (Century Media)
7) ARMORED SAINT - Win Hands Down (Metal Blade)
8) NILE - What Should Not Be Unearthed (Nuclear Blast)
9) CRYPTOPSY - The Book Of Suffering - Tome 1 (Defen Society 3000)
10) TRIBULATION - The Children Of The Night (Century Media)
11) ENFORCER - From Beyond (Nuclear Blast)
12) FEAR FACTORY - Genexus (Nuclear Blast)
13) CRADLE OF FILTH - Hammer Of The Witches (Nuclear Blast)
14) AMORPHIS – Under The Red Cloud (Nuclear Blast)
15) MELECHESH - Enki (Nuclear Blast)
16) NAPALM DEATH - Apex Predator - Easy Meat (Century Media)
17) GHOST - Meliora (Loma Vista Recordings)
18) MOTÖRHEAD – Bad Magic (UDR)
19) MARDUK - Frontschwein (Century Media)
20) LAMB OF GOD - VII: Sturm Und Drang (Epic)
21) SYMPHONY X - Underworld (Nuclear Blast)
22) HELLOWEEN - My God-Given Right (Nuclear Blast)
23) MICHAEL SCHENKER’S TEMPLE OF ROCK – Spirit On A Mission (Inakustik)
24) SAXON - Battering Ram (UDR)
25) KAMELOT - Haven (Napalm Records)
26) VENOM - From The Very Depths (Spinefarm)
27) CHILDREN OF BODOM - I Worship Chaos (Nuclear Blast)
28) KATAKLYSM - Of Ghosts And Gods (Nuclear Blast)
29) EUROPE - War Of Kings (UDR)
30) MY DYING BRIDE - Feel The Misery (Peaceville)

I bolded the albums that made The TAC Top 10. Slayer and Motorhead are both on the bubble.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 04, 2016, 04:12:55 PM: Out of that list, Condition Human, Underworld, and Haven make my Top 10.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 04, 2016, 04:42:22 PM: I used to buy that Bravewords magazine all the time

Awesome to see QR so high but also surprised that Circle II Circle didn't make the list
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2016, 08:48:01 PM: It's a pretty safe and predictable list really. It's not a bad list though as far as mainstream metal goes. Good to see the Ryche coming in at number 2 though.
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 04:49:44 AM: Brent, that song by the asian guitarist featuring Marty Friedman was awesome and reminded me heavily of Nocturnal Rites, what album is that from? Sounds like something exactly up my alley.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 05, 2016, 06:44:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 04:49:44 AM
Brent, that song by the asian guitarist featuring Marty Friedman was awesome and reminded me heavily of Nocturnal Rites, what album is that from? Sounds like something exactly up my alley.

That was straight out of the wolfking roulette playlist :lol I got bored waiting for these roulettes so fuck it - each time you say you love something new from the podcast it's like winning a roulette , so I'm not fussed about holding stuff back.

The artist is Takayoshi Ohmura and that song was from an album called Devils In The Dark. It also features Russ Allen on one track but the track I played was clearly my fave from the album. If anything his other album Emotions In Motion may be a little more consistent and features Doogie White, Terry Ilous, Tony Moore and Ted Poley. if you want to hear something off that in an upcoming podcast then let me know.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 05, 2016, 11:37:34 AM: finally getting to podcast 3.

Disposable Heroes is so :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 01:29:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 05, 2016, 06:44:29 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 04:49:44 AM
Brent, that song by the asian guitarist featuring Marty Friedman was awesome and reminded me heavily of Nocturnal Rites, what album is that from? Sounds like something exactly up my alley.

That was straight out of the wolfking roulette playlist :lol I got bored waiting for these roulettes so fuck it - each time you say you love something new from the podcast it's like winning a roulette , so I'm not fussed about holding stuff back.

The artist is Takayoshi Ohmura and that song was from an album called Devils In The Dark. It also features Russ Allen on one track but the track I played was clearly my fave from the album. If anything his other album Emotions In Motion may be a little more consistent and features Doogie White, Terry Ilous, Tony Moore and Ted Poley. if you want to hear something off that in an upcoming podcast then let me know.

I gotta check them out. And yeah, first thing I thought was why you didn't save it for my roulette. I think you're gonna be hard to beat.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 05, 2016, 01:33:23 PM: good stuff with Baton Rouge. I've spun that one a couple of times in recent months.
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 01:35:21 PM: The Twisted Tower Dire was a great track too. Never heard of them.
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Post by: Prog Snob on January 05, 2016, 01:36:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2016, 03:26:57 PM
In case anyone missed the Bravewords 2015 Top 30, here it is:

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BravePicks 2015 Top 30

1) SLAYER - Repentless (Nuclear Blast)
2) QUEENSRŸCHE - Condition Hüman (Century Media)
3) PARADISE LOST - The Plague Within (Century Media)
4) IRON MAIDEN - The Book Of Souls (Sanctuary/BMG)
5) ENSLAVED - In Times (Nuclear Blast)
6) GRAVE - Out Of Respect For The Dead (Century Media)
7) ARMORED SAINT - Win Hands Down (Metal Blade)
8) NILE - What Should Not Be Unearthed (Nuclear Blast)
9) CRYPTOPSY - The Book Of Suffering - Tome 1 (Defen Society 3000)
10) TRIBULATION - The Children Of The Night (Century Media)
11) ENFORCER - From Beyond (Nuclear Blast)
12) FEAR FACTORY - Genexus (Nuclear Blast)
13) CRADLE OF FILTH - Hammer Of The Witches (Nuclear Blast)
14) AMORPHIS – Under The Red Cloud (Nuclear Blast)
15) MELECHESH - Enki (Nuclear Blast)
16) NAPALM DEATH - Apex Predator - Easy Meat (Century Media)
17) GHOST - Meliora (Loma Vista Recordings)
18) MOTÖRHEAD – Bad Magic (UDR)
19) MARDUK - Frontschwein (Century Media)
20) LAMB OF GOD - VII: Sturm Und Drang (Epic)
21) SYMPHONY X - Underworld (Nuclear Blast)
22) HELLOWEEN - My God-Given Right (Nuclear Blast)
23) MICHAEL SCHENKER’S TEMPLE OF ROCK – Spirit On A Mission (Inakustik)
24) SAXON - Battering Ram (UDR)
25) KAMELOT - Haven (Napalm Records)
26) VENOM - From The Very Depths (Spinefarm)
27) CHILDREN OF BODOM - I Worship Chaos (Nuclear Blast)
28) KATAKLYSM - Of Ghosts And Gods (Nuclear Blast)
29) EUROPE - War Of Kings (UDR)
30) MY DYING BRIDE - Feel The Misery (Peaceville)

I bolded the albums that made The TAC Top 10. Slayer and Motorhead are both on the bubble.

There are a couple on there that I want to check out. I wasn't that impressed with the QR though. I want to check out the Cradle of Filth, Amorphis, and Kamelot. I'm even curious about the Fear Factory. I would put the Maiden above QR, and place the SyX higher, but not that much higher.
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 01:52:46 PM: I thought the Kamelot was really bland and boring. The Amorphis is amazing.
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Post by: Prog Snob on January 05, 2016, 01:55:18 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 01:52:46 PM
I thought the Kamelot was really bland and boring. The Amorphis is amazing.

Kamelot is one of those bands that either you love what they do, or you don't get the point. So, I'm not surprised to hear you say that. The Amorphis release I'll check out on Spotify tonight.
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 02:03:38 PM: Quote from: Prog Snob on January 05, 2016, 01:55:18 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 01:52:46 PM
I thought the Kamelot was really bland and boring. The Amorphis is amazing.

Kamelot is one of those bands that either you love what they do, or you don't get the point. So, I'm not surprised to hear you say that. The Amorphis release I'll check out on Spotify tonight.

I'm a huge Kamelot fan but the last two albums have done nothing for me. Has nothing to do with Tommy, just the songwriting has been below par IMO. I am a huge fan of everything up to Poetry.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 05, 2016, 02:12:45 PM: That Amorphis was really good!
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2016, 02:13:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: Prog Snob on January 05, 2016, 01:55:18 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 01:52:46 PM
I thought the Kamelot was really bland and boring. The Amorphis is amazing.

Kamelot is one of those bands that either you love what they do, or you don't get the point. So, I'm not surprised to hear you say that. The Amorphis release I'll check out on Spotify tonight.

I'm a huge Kamelot fan but the last two albums have done nothing for me. Has nothing to do with Tommy, just the songwriting has been below par IMO. I am a huge fan of everything up to Poetry.

I thought Silverthorn was mediocre, but absolutely loved Haven.
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 02:14:30 PM: I'll try it again then. First Kamelot album I didn't even purchase.
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2016, 02:40:09 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/metal-church-return-with-legendary-vocalist-mike-howe-xi-album-due-in-march-no-tomorrow-music-video-posted

March 25th release date!

I like the tune. I hope Howe hits some high notes in the primary vocal lines on this album. It's pretty controlled here with the higher stuff in the background.

Love this guy's voice though. I cannot wait for this album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2016, 02:45:18 PM: Cool tune!!
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2016, 02:53:21 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 05, 2016, 02:45:18 PM
Cool tune!!

It is. But if this is the best tune, I'm going to be disappointed. But I'm sure it's not. I do like it though.
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 08:18:46 PM: I'm a pretty casual fan of Metal Church, but some of their later stuff is good. I'll check this out later.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2016, 08:22:37 PM: "Badlands" is just one of the best pure metal songs ever!
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 08:39:13 PM: Blessing in Disguise is a cracker of an album.
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Post by: wolfking on January 06, 2016, 04:33:11 AM: That song was okay. Pretty generic but cool enough. If this is the best song though, I probably wouldn't bother.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 06, 2016, 03:31:45 PM: Didn't do much for me. Never got into MC back in the day. They sort of seemed a bit amateurish?
Didn't like the guys voice on this.

Edit

Just having a listen to The Dark and I'm enjoying the songs and the vocals are great. The production isn't helping it one bit though.
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Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2016, 04:55:55 AM: Finally listening to the new Stryper for the first time. Up to Heaven and it's a immense track. So far, so really good. The first two were killer too.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 08, 2016, 02:21:30 PM: finally made it through podcast #3. Great show! highest average song rating of the three shows so far. Disposable Heroes was my first 10 rating.

Here are the songs I didn't know that scored 8.5 or higher

9.5
Queensryche - Queen of the Reich

9.0
Envenomed - Mechanical Enemy
Pretty Maids - Jump The Gun (just got this album)
Twisted Tower Dire - The Reflecting Pool
Demons & Wizards - Love's Tragedy Asunder
Brazen Abbot - Eye of the Storm
The Brave - Big World

8.5
Black Sabbath - Danger Zone (this is the first and only thing I've ever heard from this album)
Alice Cooper - Freedom
Aftershok - Armed and Dangerous
Talisman - All Wound Up
Moon'Doc - Foolin'
Unisonic - Night of the Long Knives
Lawless - Is This the End of the World
Gotthard - Standing in the Light
Takayoshi Ohmura - Never Surrender
Siam - Sleepwaves
Vinnie Moore - Cinema
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Post by: TAC on January 08, 2016, 04:00:25 PM: New Mob Rules!
https://bravewords.com/news/mob-rules-announce-new-album-tales-from-beyond-confirm-tour-with-axel-rudi-pell
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Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2016, 04:32:44 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on January 08, 2016, 02:21:30 PM
finally made it through podcast #3. Great show! highest average song rating of the three shows so far. Disposable Heroes was my first 10 rating.

Here are the songs I didn't know that scored 8.5 or higher

9.5
Queensryche - Queen of the Reich

9.0
Envenomed - Mechanical Enemy
Pretty Maids - Jump The Gun (just got this album)
Twisted Tower Dire - The Reflecting Pool
Demons & Wizards - Love's Tragedy Asunder
Brazen Abbot - Eye of the Storm
The Brave - Big World

8.5
Black Sabbath - Danger Zone (this is the first and only thing I've ever heard from this album)
Alice Cooper - Freedom
Aftershok - Armed and Dangerous
Talisman - All Wound Up
Moon'Doc - Foolin'
Unisonic - Night of the Long Knives
Lawless - Is This the End of the World
Gotthard - Standing in the Light
Takayoshi Ohmura - Never Surrender
Siam - Sleepwaves
Vinnie Moore - Cinema

:tup
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Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2016, 04:58:21 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on January 08, 2016, 02:21:30 PM
finally made it through podcast #3. Great show! highest average song rating of the three shows so far. Disposable Heroes was my first 10 rating.

Here are the songs I didn't know that scored 8.5 or higher

9.5
Queensryche - Queen of the Reich

9.0
Demons & Wizards - Love's Tragedy Asunder

8.5
Talisman - All Wound Up
Unisonic - Night of the Long Knives

Definitely get onto these man, especially the Ryche.

Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2016, 04:00:25 PM
New Mob Rules!
https://bravewords.com/news/mob-rules-announce-new-album-tales-from-beyond-confirm-tour-with-axel-rudi-pell

Cool, last album was stellar.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2016, 05:13:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2016, 04:00:25 PM
New Mob Rules!
https://bravewords.com/news/mob-rules-announce-new-album-tales-from-beyond-confirm-tour-with-axel-rudi-pell

Fooken eh!!

Except for the fact the tour is only for those damn Euro's.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2016, 07:41:49 PM: A local reviewer's comment on the new Megadeth

Kiko is all over this album with his soloing. IMO he's probably the best fit for Dave's writing since Marty was in the band. His Brazilian background shines through and there are some very latin / melodic phrases all over the place here.

There are some classic Megadeth tracks on offer too."Poisonous Shadows", "The Emperor", "Lying In State", and "Death From Within" are absolute smoking tracks with "Poisonous Shadows" easily being in my top 5 Megadeth tracks ever now.

The three songs released so far are good but nowhere near as good as what is on the rest of the album.

Chris Adler is an absolute beast on this album. I'm going to say it right now, this is (musically) the most talented line-up they've ever had. Hopefully Dave keeps it together!
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2016, 07:51:17 PM: Is this reviewer credible with other album reviews?

His review makes this sound like one of the greatest metal albums ever lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2016, 07:52:03 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 10, 2016, 07:51:17 PM
Is this reviewer credible with other album reviews?

His review makes this sound like one of the greatest metal albums ever lol

Aside from being a bit of a Megadeth fanboi (which is probably a good thing in some ways) ........yes , what I have seen is credible.
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2016, 09:03:18 PM: Good news about Kiko, good to see Dave utilize him properly by the sounds of it.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2016, 04:02:44 AM: Sounds good. I've already preordered it. It has to be better than their last couple albums.
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Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2016, 04:21:17 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 11, 2016, 04:02:44 AM
Sounds good. I've already preordered it. It has to be better than their last couple albums.

Was gonna question you for a minute but I forgot about 13.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2016, 09:29:32 AM: That's understandable. It was quite forgettable. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2016, 08:34:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 11, 2016, 09:29:32 AM
That's understandable. It was quite forgettable. ;D

Absolutely.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2016, 04:00:49 AM: The last new one I heard from Megadeth was End Game; which turned out to be much better then I expected it to be
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2016, 04:02:07 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 12, 2016, 04:00:49 AM
The last new one I heard from Megadeth was End Game; which turned out to be much better then I expected it to be

Tim made me revisit that not that long ago. i didn't quite like it at first, but now I think it's amazing.
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2016, 04:12:04 AM: Another PF song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE_14ueyQME

I'm getting quite an old school PF vibe from these last three songs, yet The End is Near seems like a newer direction.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2016, 07:51:05 AM: Of the songs released so far for this album, this tune is my favorite.
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2016, 10:57:27 PM: The End is Near is still by far my fav out of the four, but this one is good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 13, 2016, 02:06:32 AM: I'm getting both the regular and deluxe editions for this bad boy!
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Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2016, 03:58:00 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 13, 2016, 02:06:32 AM
I'm getting both the regular and deluxe editions for this bad boy!

Just the deluxe for me. There is no reason to get the regular IMO.
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Post by: TAC on January 13, 2016, 11:02:13 AM: Really??

https://www.rockfeed.net/2016/01/12/metallica-threatens-lawsuit-canadian-cover-band/
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 13, 2016, 11:11:45 AM: Yeah, I saw this the other day, as the lead singer also has his own band, WarMachine, that I've seen a few times and have their albums. What a pissy thing to do. The venue they were "served" at is in London, about a 2 hr drive from Toronto. So, they get cease/desist papers after they've already hauled their gear for 2 hours.

Stay classy Metallica.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 13, 2016, 11:25:23 AM: the article seems a bit inflammatory making it seem Metallica is going after them for playing their music. Sounds like they just want to them to stop using the stylized version of their name in promotional items which seems fair to me.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 13, 2016, 11:25:53 AM: although they probably could have approached it a bit differently . . .
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 13, 2016, 07:54:21 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on January 13, 2016, 11:25:53 AM
although they probably could have approached it a bit differently . . .

absolutely
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Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2016, 09:02:10 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on January 13, 2016, 11:25:53 AM
although they probably could have approached it a bit differently . . .

Eh, I guess. I mean, I get that the logo is trademarked, and that's fair enough, But come one Metallica.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 14, 2016, 12:00:43 AM: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/metallica-canadian-cover-band-reconcile-over-cease-and-desist-letter-20160114
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 14, 2016, 05:29:58 AM: Alls well that ends well. I was hoping the band themselves had no knowledge of this. Good on them.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 14, 2016, 08:50:27 PM: Yeah, good on Metallica on this one!
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Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2016, 05:44:20 PM: D'oh.........onto page 2.

Sorry about the lack of content around here - trying to get things back on track business wise while selling a house , organising a new place and now gradually moving (we have 7-8 weeks now looking after two properties as it has worked out) has meant little spare time . And that won't change in the near future. I'm not sure I can keep one garden alive at the moment ,let alone two :lol

I am slowly working my way through 1988 (another HUGE year) and am 80% done on the next podcast , but that's about it.

No doubt the focus will be on the new DT in the next few weeks (as it should be) ,so that'll be good cover :) Aside from the new Avantasia (esp the Kiske tracks as mentioned a few weeks back) there's not much grabbing me in the way of new releases. And on the news front it has mostly been bad news, eh? :-[

Hopefully if Ben gets his ass into gear the next podcast will be up in the next week or so. ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 19, 2016, 06:55:49 PM: I can't imagine anything topping Mindcrime on your 88 list coming up. I'm sure Metallica and Crimson Glory or Maiden could give it a good run though.

Looking forward to the new DT, Primal Fear and Anthrax in the next few weeks!

I like Avantasia, but haven't really pursued them too much. That new Kiske song is very good though!
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Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2016, 07:07:21 PM: I forgot the Primal Fear - what blasphemy :lol Strong album and better than DTB in my book. I haven't bothered to check out any new Anthrax tracks - they're very hit and miss with me. Spreading The Disease is all time Top 100 for me but outside of that , very up and down.

I'll give you a spoiler now re 1988 (as I have said it before) - although I really like One and a couple of other tracks I don't really rate AJFA as an album. Not in the same class as MoP IMHO.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 19, 2016, 08:20:47 PM: I pick Spreading the Disease too as my favorite from Anthrax.

Worship Music was excellent; much better than I had expected. If the new one is even remotely as good as WM, I'll be happy
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 19, 2016, 08:37:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 19, 2016, 07:07:21 PM
I'll give you a spoiler now re 1988 (as I have said it before) - although I really like One and a couple of other tracks I don't really rate AJFA as an album. Not in the same class as MoP IMHO.

If the album had listenable production, it would slay MOP imo (and I still think MOP is amazing).
And of course let's not forget the best album of the year. :TAC:
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Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2016, 08:46:37 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 19, 2016, 08:37:01 PM
And of course let's not forget the best album of the year. :TAC:

That's a given.
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Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2016, 09:23:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 19, 2016, 07:07:21 PM
I forgot the Primal Fear - what blasphemy :lol Strong album and better than DTB in my book.

Yeah buddy!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 19, 2016, 10:08:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 19, 2016, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 19, 2016, 07:07:21 PM
I forgot the Primal Fear - what blasphemy :lol Strong album and better than DTB in my book.

Yeah buddy!!

It should be a good one!!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2016, 01:07:27 AM: I'm eagerly awaiting the new Anthrax, Worship Music was great, much better than I expected and if they keep it up I'm more than happy.

As far as classic Anthrax goes, Spreading The Disease and Among The Living would be my favorites from the Belladonna era. And I really like Stomp 442, although I'm probably in the minority on that one. And We've Come For You All ain't shabby either.

Then of course the new Dream Theater will keep me occupied and then there's Megadeth and Avantasia. I probably don't have the time to listen to them as much as I would like too.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2016, 04:42:46 AM: New Primal Fear vid;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghvg0wftEnc

Some cool ass heavy shit, love it, can't wait.

Also, Nordic Union;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnpEoYU02iE

Hmm....Ronnie just might be able to save this album for me.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2016, 05:31:48 AM: I forgot how shit that second Cacophony album is :-\ -last track saves it from being a total loss.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2016, 06:25:38 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 19, 2016, 06:55:49 PM
I can't imagine anything topping Mindcrime on your 88 list coming up. I'm sure Metallica and Crimson Glory or Maiden could give it a good run though.

I wasn't into Crimson Glory, but yeah, 1988 was a great year. Oh, and Keepers Pt. 2 :metal

Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2016, 01:07:27 AM
I'm eagerly awaiting the new Anthrax, Worship Music was great, much better than I expected and if they keep it up I'm more than happy.

As far as classic Anthrax goes, Spreading The Disease and Among The Living would be my favorites from the Belladonna era. And I really like Stomp 442, although I'm probably in the minority on that one.

So am I. Worship Music was excellent. Took a while to click but when it did..

I am so totally with you on Stomp 442. It made The TAC Top 50. Love that album and I do not get the hate for it at all. John Bush kills on it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2016, 06:49:53 AM: I really enjoy Stomp 442 as well!
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2016, 07:14:10 AM: Was just thinking where the hell is the next podcast.

Sometimes I think I'm in the wrong thread... a lot of these bands (Anthrax in this case) fell outside of my comfort zone back in the day, and for the most part, I haven't gone and checked anything out. JJ did a good job with Crimson Glory in my first Roulette; ditto with Kade/W.A.S.P. in the most recent one. Maybe my roulette v4 needs to be 70s/80s metal/rock only.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2016, 07:14:36 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2016, 06:25:38 AM
I am so totally with you on Stomp 442. It made The TAC Top 50. Love that album and I do not get the hate for it at all. John Bush kills on it.

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 20, 2016, 06:49:53 AM
I really enjoy Stomp 442 as well!

Finally I'm not alone anymore *cries tears of joy*. For the longest time I tried to convince people that this is in fact an awesome album, but nobody wanted to believe me.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2016, 07:31:44 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 20, 2016, 07:14:10 AM
Maybe my roulette v4 needs to be 70s/80s metal/rock only.

I'd be up for that!

Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2016, 07:14:36 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2016, 06:25:38 AM
I am so totally with you on Stomp 442. It made The TAC Top 50. Love that album and I do not get the hate for it at all. John Bush kills on it.

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 20, 2016, 06:49:53 AM
I really enjoy Stomp 442 as well!

Finally I'm not alone anymore *cries tears of joy*. For the longest time I tried to convince people that this is in fact an awesome album, but nobody wanted to believe me.

I think all in all, Anthrax with Bush was pretty disappointing. I freaking loved Armored Saint AND Anthrax at the time and was excited to hear Bush sing with Anthrax. I remember being somewhat disappointed with White Noise, though I will say that it has aged very well, and I really like it a lot. Loved Stomp 442 right away. I found Volume 8 very uneven. I like it, but don't love it, and after what seemed like many years, I could just never get into WCFYA. Felt like a different band
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2016, 07:48:13 AM: White Noise is mediocre at best and Volume 8 is indeed uneven but WCFYA is great. You said before that you can't get into it and that's ok, to each his own, but I think it's more classic Anthrax than Stomp 442. That one for me sounded more like another band and was a little change in style in comparison to the previous ones. More straight forward, maybe because they didn't have a lead guitarist at that time.

I find it a little bit sad, that the Bush discs are not generally good, because I like him more that Belladonna, but all in all Belladonna got to sing the better songs.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2016, 07:56:31 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2016, 07:48:13 AM

I find it a little bit sad, that the Bush discs are not generally good, because I like him more that Belladonna, but all in all Belladonna got to sing the better songs.

I agree with all of this. I'm not sure why they even made the switch in the first place. 1991 was a great year for Anthrax and they were still arching upward.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2016, 08:02:08 AM: Volume 8, besides a few songs, was a pretty sup par releases. I think WCFYA is a great album, but maybe could have been condensed by a few songs.

John Bush is a perfect fit for Armored Saint, but something just seemed a bit off with him in Anthrax. I prefer John Bush as a singer over Joey, but over all, I enjoy the Belladonna era of Anthrax over Bush. If that makes sense lol
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2016, 08:15:38 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 20, 2016, 08:02:08 AM
John Bush is a perfect fit for Armored Saint, but something just seemed a bit off with him in Anthrax. I prefer John Bush as a singer over Joey, but over all, I enjoy the Belladonna era of Anthrax over Bush. If that makes sense lol

I feel the same way, so obviously it makes perfect sense!
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2016, 08:16:57 AM: Glad we think alike lol!
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Post by: Lowdz on January 20, 2016, 11:07:28 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 19, 2016, 08:20:47 PM
I pick Spreading the Disease too as my favorite from Anthrax.

Worship Music was excellent; much better than I had expected. If the new one is even remotely as good as WM, I'll be happy

Me too. The only anthrax album I ever really listen to. As soon as the rap started appearing, that was me gone.
I it SoWN but only liked one song (black lodge).not listened to anything since then other than a couple of spins of WM.
I've heard a couple of tracks off the new one and they were excellent. If they can keep that up through an album it will be interesting.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2016, 11:47:06 AM: I have pretty much everything Anthrax has released, but I refuse to listen to or put "Bring the Noise" or "Im the Man" on my ipod. I can take some of Anthrax's rap influence but those songs just cross the line for me.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2016, 11:48:50 AM: Always loved the live version with John Bush.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2016, 11:59:18 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2016, 11:48:50 AM
Always love ~~d the live version with John~~ bush.

Fix'd
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2016, 12:00:17 PM: whammy!!
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2016, 05:56:56 PM: So I have heard the new Megadeth album and I would say that initial impressions are VERY good. I need to have another listen or two to properly rate it but initial impressions would be 93-94%. I have no idea about the lyrics/concept as I was focused on the music.......and that's the key to a good concept for me anyway - the songs each stand up well independent of any concept.

I can't comment in terms of their recent releases as , although I have most of the albums, I really haven't taken much notice since CTE and , to a lesser extent, Youthanasia. I have of course sampled many of their more recent albums and I tend to think that this album is on another level. The arrival of Kiko has refreshed my interest - his tone/use of vibrato is very Friedmanesque.

A couple of times I thought I could be listening to Rust In Peace ,so if that album scratches you where you itch then I think you will really like this. Take those RIP style songs, add in the bigger production of Countdown and you'll be somewhere around the mark. Dave sounds great too (for Dave). At this point I can see it being my second favourite Megadave album behind RIP.

I can't see this album disappointing too many fans - and I actually want to listen to it again straight away, something that happens rarely with new releases these days.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2016, 08:56:31 PM: Sounds damn good Brent. I'm looking forward to it even more now. Definitely should be able to get this one instore tomorrow.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 20, 2016, 09:56:36 PM: never could get into Megadeth. Mustaine's vocals I think. Should I have a Megadeth round if I ever do another roulette?
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Post by: gazinwales on January 20, 2016, 11:07:23 PM: New Borknagar is out tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/NDrrKv2wjvk
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 21, 2016, 12:42:58 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 20, 2016, 11:47:06 AM
I have pretty much everything Anthrax has released, but I refuse to listen to or put "Bring the Noise" or "Im the Man" on my ipod. I can take some of Anthrax's rap influence but those songs just cross the line for me.

Bring The Noise was nice because it was different, I'm The Man is just a joke track that wasn't that funny to begin with and is even less funny with every repeat. Other than that I don't see that much rap influence. But those songs are still better than Friggin' In The Riggin' :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 21, 2016, 02:30:38 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 20, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
New Borknagar is out tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/NDrrKv2wjvk

who?
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2016, 04:13:23 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 20, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
New Borknagar is out tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/NDrrKv2wjvk

I have never checked Bornagar but know the name. Not sure if they belong in this thread, but that song was damn good. Reminds me of Opeth, Katatonia, Amorphis and some Wintersun, good good stuff.

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 21, 2016, 02:30:38 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on January 20, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
New Borknagar is out tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/NDrrKv2wjvk

who?

Probably not one for you to worry about Jason.
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2016, 05:43:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 20, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
At this point I can see it being my second favourite Megadave album behind RIP.

Wow!

Brent, you should go back to Endgame and United Abominations. Both are excellent.

Quote from: Big Hath on January 20, 2016, 09:56:36 PM
Should I have a Megadeth round if I ever do another roulette?

Yes. I would recommend anyone that has trouble with or is on the fence about a certain band to absolutely dedicate a round in their roulette.

Quote from: gazinwales on January 20, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
New Borknagar is out tomorrow.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/The_Swedish_Chef.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 21, 2016, 05:45:32 AM: :rollin
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Post by: Lowdz on January 21, 2016, 10:44:19 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 20, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
New Borknagar is out tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/NDrrKv2wjvk

I was expecting growls, I have to be honest. Had never heard a note by them but always put them in with the death crowd. Saying that, that was not my cup of tea at all.
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Post by: gazinwales on January 21, 2016, 10:50:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2016, 04:13:23 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on January 20, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
New Borknagar is out tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/NDrrKv2wjvk

I have never checked Bornagar but know the name. Not sure if they belong in this thread, but that song was damn good. Reminds me of Opeth, Katatonia, Amorphis and some Wintersun, good good stuff.

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 21, 2016, 02:30:38 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on January 20, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
New Borknagar is out tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/NDrrKv2wjvk

who?

Probably not one for you to worry about Jason.

Who?

Yes I could have put it in the Borknagar or Extreme Metal threads, but I decided to pimp them here.
Not really death, were black metal many years ago, these days more progressive than anything, still has some growls.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2016, 04:07:57 AM: All good mate, you made me check it out, and I really liked it.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2016, 04:30:08 AM: Another Nordic Union song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhR3Wk853YY

This one is actually pretty damn good.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2016, 04:34:18 AM: yeah.......that was one that I thought was pretty good. Half the album was like that and the other half was just totally half assed , cookie cutter overload.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 22, 2016, 07:12:54 AM: That song was pretty good; reminds of newer Silent Force with Pretty Maids vocals.

And based on that album cover, that will be a major mess when that train collides with that giant freak bird lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2016, 03:30:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2016, 04:34:18 AM
yeah.......that was one that I thought was pretty good. Half the album was like that and the other half was just totally half assed , cookie cutter overload.

I'll probably end up getting this because I am a sucker.

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 22, 2016, 07:12:54 AM
That song was pretty good; reminds of newer Silent Force with Pretty Maids vocals.

And based on that album cover, that will be a major mess when that train collides with that giant freak bird lol

Yeah, everytime I look at the album cover I wonder what the fuck is going on. :lol

Solid call on the Silent Force music on this one Jason, I can hear that. Could fit on the last album.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2016, 04:16:27 PM: New JSS album on April 1st. Still under the 'Soto' banner so sounds like he is going with the direction he did on Inside the Vertigo. That album grew on me quite a bit, I like it, so I'll get the new one.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2016, 12:18:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 22, 2016, 04:16:27 PM
New JSS album on April 1st. Still under the 'Soto' banner so sounds like he is going with the direction he did on Inside the Vertigo. That album grew on me quite a bit, I like it, so I'll get the new one.

From the clips I heard from the first SOTO album, it was very modern sounding and didn't do much for me. Was that the sound throughout the disc?
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2016, 03:27:22 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2016, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 22, 2016, 04:16:27 PM
New JSS album on April 1st. Still under the 'Soto' banner so sounds like he is going with the direction he did on Inside the Vertigo. That album grew on me quite a bit, I like it, so I'll get the new one.

From the clips I heard from the first SOTO album, it was very modern sounding and didn't do much for me. Was that the sound throughout the disc?

On a whole, yes. But it was kind of a mixed bag too, there's some great straight up metal tracks too. No AOR or Talisman style stuff.
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2016, 03:28:26 AM: Fuck, Jimmy Bain has died according to some sources. :'(

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-rainbowdio-bassist-jimmy-bain-dead-at-68/
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 24, 2016, 03:33:07 AM: Damn. It's not a good year to be a musician. RIP. :(
I've been really looking to the Last in Line album too, and this will be on my mind when I listen to it. Hoping he went out on a high note.
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Post by: Evermind on January 24, 2016, 03:50:23 AM: Well, if it's true then damn. Another huge loss. Just... damn. :(
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2016, 05:49:25 AM: Sad news
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2016, 08:54:59 AM: WTF is going on?? Damn!!
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2016, 11:28:22 AM: Looking at 1988, there are 6 albums from that year in the TAC Top 50.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2016, 06:11:00 PM: For those who intend buying PF's Rulebreaker .........I have just got hold of the Deluxe Edition and it's definitely worth having for the 2 extra tracks. The Jap is the same as the Deluxe with an extra reworked version of one of the regular tracks.

Final Call - well if you like your PF heavy , this is bordering on thrash.

Don't Say You've Never Been Warned - good straight ahead rocker and another strong track.

These two tracks would boost my album rating from mid 80's to high 80's and really make it a much more complete effort IMO .

Next task is to bring together all the various bonus tracks for Dystopia (Jap , Best Buy, Spotify ::) ) into a "complete edition"
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2016, 07:28:44 PM: Sounds good Brent. Gonna order mine this week, always the deluxe version for me. I don't think I'll bother with the Japan version though.

How many bonus Deth tracks are there?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2016, 07:35:21 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 24, 2016, 07:28:44 PM
Sounds good Brent. Gonna order mine this week, always the deluxe version for me. I don't think I'll bother with the Japan version though.

How many bonus Deth tracks are there?

I haven't gone into it in great detail but so far I have four - haven't listened to them yet.

Look Who's Talking
Last Dying Wish
Melt The Ice Away
Me Hate You
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2016, 07:47:46 PM: That's fucking heaps. Wow.

Looks like those four are it. Spotify bonus track?! hahahahaha.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2016, 09:55:52 PM: I would be surprised if HMV has the new Primal Fear on Friday, let alone the deluxe edition. If not there, then amazon for both.

HMV will have the new DT for sure though.
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Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2016, 04:15:41 AM: I would have thought DT would be one of those bands that would pretty much be available instore pretty much everywhere.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 25, 2016, 07:03:21 AM: In Germany you can get DT almost everywhere, even in those mainstream-stores that don't have 90% of the stuff I'm looking for.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 25, 2016, 07:30:27 AM: Just having a listen to the new Resurrection Kings (Appice, Goldy, West, McNabb) disc and it's a good one. Nothing beyond brilliant , nor anything particularly fresh, but unlike many other recent releases it manages to sound retro while also having a bit of thought/soul/originality behind it. I expect stuff like Nordic Union to be rated higher by many reviewers but in my view this one is a ton better.

Goldy has never been a huge fave for me but here he sounds as good as he ever has and Chas West .............well Jake E Lee is nuts for letting him go. He seriously reminds me of someone that I just can't place for now , but he puts in a great performance.

I'm only half way through but if things don't drop off dramatically I expect to rate it at least mid 80's.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 25, 2016, 09:41:56 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 24, 2016, 09:55:52 PM
I would be surprised if HMV has the new Primal Fear on Friday, let alone the deluxe edition. If not there, then amazon for both.

HMV will have the new DT for sure though.

Picked up the primal fear deluxe in Blackpool hmv yesterday :biggrin:, along with a steel panther's last one with a live in Oz dvd and the Rush R40 blu Ray.
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Post by: ozzy554 on January 25, 2016, 10:00:26 AM: Last in Line releases 2 songs in tribute for Jimmy Bain
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/last-in-line-releases-two-new-songs-as-tribute-to-fallen-bassist-jimmy-bain/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/last-in-line-releases-two-new-songs-as-tribute-to-fallen-bassist-jimmy-bain/)

I really liked starmaker and thought Blame It On Me was ok. I do hope that there is more uptempo songs like martyr on the disc though.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 25, 2016, 01:01:32 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on January 25, 2016, 10:00:26 AM
Last in Line releases 2 songs in tribute for Jimmy Bain
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/last-in-line-releases-two-new-songs-as-tribute-to-fallen-bassist-jimmy-bain/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/last-in-line-releases-two-new-songs-as-tribute-to-fallen-bassist-jimmy-bain/)

I really liked starmaker and thought Blame It On Me was ok. I do hope that there is more uptempo songs like martyr on the disc though.

Can't say I'm too excited so far. It's all been pretty bland. Decent enough but I expected better.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 25, 2016, 01:39:21 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 25, 2016, 09:41:56 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 24, 2016, 09:55:52 PM
I would be surprised if HMV has the new Primal Fear on Friday, let alone the deluxe edition. If not there, then amazon for both.

HMV will have the new DT for sure though.

Picked up the primal fear deluxe in Blackpool hmv yesterday :biggrin:, along with a steel panther's last one with a live in Oz dvd and the Rush R40 blu Ray.

Paul, let us know what you think of Primal Fear when you get a chance
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Post by: Lowdz on January 25, 2016, 03:53:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 25, 2016, 01:39:21 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 25, 2016, 09:41:56 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 24, 2016, 09:55:52 PM
I would be surprised if HMV has the new Primal Fear on Friday, let alone the deluxe edition. If not there, then amazon for both.

HMV will have the new DT for sure though.

Picked up the primal fear deluxe in Blackpool hmv yesterday :biggrin:, along with a steel panther's last one with a live in Oz dvd and the Rush R40 blu Ray.

Paul, let us know what you think of Primal Fear when you get a chance

Played it whilst washing up and cooking just through iPad speakers. Seemed excellent. Will blast it in the car tomorrow and get back to you
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Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2016, 04:07:30 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 25, 2016, 03:53:25 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 25, 2016, 01:39:21 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 25, 2016, 09:41:56 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 24, 2016, 09:55:52 PM
I would be surprised if HMV has the new Primal Fear on Friday, let alone the deluxe edition. If not there, then amazon for both.

HMV will have the new DT for sure though.

Picked up the primal fear deluxe in Blackpool hmv yesterday :biggrin:, along with a steel panther's last one with a live in Oz dvd and the Rush R40 blu Ray.

Paul, let us know what you think of Primal Fear when you get a chance

Played it whilst washing up and cooking just through iPad speakers. Seemed excellent. Will blast it in the car tomorrow and get back to you

Primal Fear and good food is such a great combination. :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 25, 2016, 04:15:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 25, 2016, 07:30:27 AM
Just having a listen to the new Resurrection Kings (Appice, Goldy, West, McNabb) disc and it's a good one. Nothing beyond brilliant , nor anything particularly fresh, but unlike many other recent releases it manages to sound retro while also having a bit of thought/soul/originality behind it. I expect stuff like Nordic Union to be rated higher by many reviewers but in my view this one is a ton better.

Goldy has never been a huge fave for me but here he sounds as good as he ever has and Chas West .............well Jake E Lee is nuts for letting him go. He seriously reminds me of someone that I just can't place for now , but he puts in a great performance.

I'm only half way through but if things don't drop off dramatically I expect to rate it at least mid 80's.

Gave it a couple of listens yesterday, and it's pretty solid. I agree with you so far. I'm hoping I enjoy it more on more listens. I did find myself losing a bit of interest in the second half of the album (after Path of Love which is probably my current favourite), but I tend to get like that on the first listens of an album regardless. :lol

I'm pretty meh on both new Last in Line songs unfortunately. I like the style, the production, the vocals, but the songwriting is mostly falling flat for me. The riffs aren't memorable, and the vocal melodies aren't great. I'll still grab the album, but I don't think I'm going to enjoy it as much as I'd hoped. :-\
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Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2016, 04:27:53 PM: I'll check both projects but neither have really grabbed my interest that much to be honest.

Such a shame about Jimmy too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 25, 2016, 05:07:53 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 25, 2016, 04:07:30 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 25, 2016, 03:53:25 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 25, 2016, 01:39:21 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 25, 2016, 09:41:56 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 24, 2016, 09:55:52 PM
I would be surprised if HMV has the new Primal Fear on Friday, let alone the deluxe edition. If not there, then amazon for both.

HMV will have the new DT for sure though.

Picked up the primal fear deluxe in Blackpool hmv yesterday :biggrin:, along with a steel panther's last one with a live in Oz dvd and the Rush R40 blu Ray.

Paul, let us know what you think of Primal Fear when you get a chance

Played it whilst washing up and cooking just through iPad speakers. Seemed excellent. Will blast it in the car tomorrow and get back to you

Primal Fear and good food is such a great combination. :metal

Listening to Primal Fear while eating a pastrami sandwich, having sex and watching Seinfeld. Now that's a great combo!
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Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2016, 05:09:13 PM: :rollin Hell yeah.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 25, 2016, 05:13:03 PM: Great..........as long as you're the one.......never mind ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 25, 2016, 05:13:12 PM: With spicey mustard of course!
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Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2016, 05:13:50 PM: :rollin
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2016, 09:22:05 PM: Mango for the appetizer.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 26, 2016, 12:08:59 AM: I think it moved
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Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2016, 03:29:05 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 25, 2016, 09:22:05 PM
Mango for the appetizer.

Well played.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2016, 04:28:54 AM: BTW guys if anyone is itching to hear the new DT , it can be downloaded through :censored as of now.

:censored

I got myself a digital copy and have begun listening. Not sure that this is going to be the metal head's cup of tea (or have many stand out songs) from what I have heard so far , but will comment more after I am done - which will be tomorrow.
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Post by: Bolsters on January 26, 2016, 05:23:31 AM: A bit surprising to see them release on Bandcamp, but okay.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2016, 05:24:53 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on January 26, 2016, 05:23:31 AM
A bit surprising to see them release on Bandcamp, but okay.

Gotta wonder if it's legit. No matter, I'm listening.
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Post by: Bolsters on January 26, 2016, 05:27:09 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 26, 2016, 05:24:53 AM
Quote from: Bolsters on January 26, 2016, 05:23:31 AM
A bit surprising to see them release on Bandcamp, but okay.

Gotta wonder if it's legit. No matter, I'm listening.
That crossed my mind too. I'm not really sure how Bandcamp vets submissions, but I've never seen anything on there that wasn't supposed to be before.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2016, 05:45:00 AM: ^ Exactly what I was thinking. Cosmetically, the page looks legit.
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Post by: Bolsters on January 26, 2016, 07:02:24 AM: Turns out it's not legit (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44903.msg2083907#msg2083907). Some douchenozzle actually uploaded the album to Bandcamp to try and make a few bucks. ::)
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Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2016, 07:06:55 AM: Hmm - oh well , at least my digital copy didn't come from there ( bribed a reviewer as usual :D ) so at least I didn't pay those prix) - sorry guys , I thought the same as you. Seemed a bit weird but looked legit -and RR were releasing digital 26th anyway apparently , so that's not unexpected in terms of date .
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2016, 07:08:48 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 26, 2016, 07:06:55 AM
Hmm - oh well , at least my digital copy didn't come from there ( bribed a reviewer as usual :D ) so at least I didn't pay those prix) - sorry guys , I thought the same as you. Seemed a bit weird but looked legit (and RR were releasing digital 26th anyway apparently , so that's not unexpected in terms of date).

Best you remove the link Brent... forum rules and all.
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Post by: Bolsters on January 26, 2016, 07:11:25 AM: It's already been taken down.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2016, 07:13:06 AM: Although, it probably doesn't matter... mid-listen, the page came down.

Edit: Ninja'd
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 26, 2016, 07:21:06 AM: Only a few more days till release day!!
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Post by: ozzy554 on January 26, 2016, 09:53:32 AM: As much as I want to listen to it right now, This time I'll actually wait until my copy arrives in the mail. If this had happend a few weeks ago the temptation might have been too much
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Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2016, 04:28:52 PM: I will wait and try a second listen of the new DT before any comment.

Meanwhile................

Quote from: bl5150 on December 08, 2015, 05:05:17 PM
And speaking of VH the talk is getting stronger about Roth out/Hagar being at least talked to.

A rather dramatic change in tone from Hagar all of a sudden

(https://s17.postimg.org/5l340m6qn/hagar.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 26, 2016, 05:02:47 PM: You don't wish someone you hate a birthday message lol

I think it's a pretty safe bet that Sammy will be brought back again
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Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2016, 07:46:22 PM: Interesting.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2016, 08:01:25 PM: IMO none of the Dystopia bonus tracks really add much.

After 4 listens of the regular version I have downgraded my rating from mid 90's to 90. Either way , it's the first time in many years that I have listened to a Megadeth release that much right after release.

Everyone seems to love Endgame ,so I will give that a spin too.
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Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2016, 08:28:06 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 26, 2016, 08:01:25 PM
Everyone seems to love Endgame ,so I will give that a spin too.

That one didn't click and I didn't think much of it for such a long time until Tim turned me onto it again and I now think it's brilliant.
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Post by: gazinwales on January 26, 2016, 10:39:36 PM: It's actually the first new Megadeth that I have heard in almost 20 years.
Pretty good too, very impressed by the music and how much I like it.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 12:44:54 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 26, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
You don't wish someone you hate a birthday message lol

I think it's a pretty safe bet that Sammy will be brought back again

Did Sammy really say that he hates Eddie?

As far as I remember they were always bickering and bitching about each other but always said that they wish each other nothing but the best. Sure this was probably just lip service but there is no proof that this birthday message is something else.

And even if they hate each other, if there is enough money involved reunions could happen but I won't hold my breath. This, for me, is a case of I believe it when I see.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 03:02:01 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 12:44:54 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 26, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
You don't wish someone you hate a birthday message lol

I think it's a pretty safe bet that Sammy will be brought back again

Did Sammy really say that he hates Eddie?

I don't think he has ever said that he hates him but his book (which I haven't read) apparently doesn't hold back and he released a Youtube vid a month or two ago where he says "Fuck you Eddie Van Halen" , so at the very least it's a very sudden change in tone between the two.

Whether it leads to anything ...........who knows. Eddie has very recently had his 5150 Steinberger Trans Trem restored (used for Summer Nights, Get Up etc...)and has indicated that he is ready play those songs again. I wouldn't be surprised if something happened in the next 12 months , but you never know with these guys.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2016, 03:13:43 AM: Yeah who knows if it was actually hatred, that would seem pretty strong. But there was definitely a strong dislike based on what both had been saying about each other. I haven't read Sammys book, but it seems that he doesn't hold back.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 03:31:47 AM: I just wanted to say that I don't believe about 99% of what they both say. Its always like "F*ck you, but I still wish you all the best".

They probably won't become close friends again, if they ever really were. And everything could happen in the future and I wouldn't mind if they work together again.

And I'm really curious how they then would work out the Michael Anthony thing.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 03:39:32 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 03:31:47 AM
I just wanted to say that I don't believe about 99% of what they both say. Its always like "F*ck you, but I still wish you all the best".

They probably won't become close friends again, if they ever really were. And everything could happen in the future and I wouldn't mind if they work together again.

And I'm really curious how they then would work out the Michael Anthony thing.

EVH and DLR have only ever tolerated each other , so I don't see that as a huge barrier. I think they just have to get past everything and agree to work together for mutual benefit. Plenty of bands do it .

One thing I do have a feeling about is that I reckon EVH might make Sammy accept that their gigs cannot be only Sammy songs and that would open it up for Mike/Wolf to sing the DLR songs. Wolfy has a solo album due out in coming months and his Facebook profile recently said something like "in Van Halen...........for now". So perhaps if Sammy and Ed can get past it ,then Mike can too.

Ed has treated a number of people very poorly when he was meth'd out - he seems in good health now so if it's ever going to work (and bearing in mind Sammy is pushing 70) , then now is definitely the time. Right now ::)
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Post by: Deathless on January 27, 2016, 04:59:30 AM: Wow, Eddie even tweeted (https://ultimateclassicrock.com/eddie-van-halen-sammy-hagar-tweets/) Sammie back. Something happening here?
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2016, 05:03:48 AM: Getting interesting indeed.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 05:23:13 AM: I like how a simple tweet sets the whole Van Halen fanbase on fire.

If John Petrucci would wish Kevin Moore a Happy Birthday, would we interpret that as a sure sign that Kevin's coming back? Ok, we in this forum probably would. ;)
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:33:24 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 05:23:13 AM
I like how a simple tweet sets the whole Van Halen fanbase on fire.

I agree it's a stretch but with DLR rumoured to be out/trying to talk the Eat Em And Smile lineup back and all these little pieces of info it adds up to a little bit more than nothing.

The difference between JP and Sammy tweeting is that Sammy/JP would know the effect their tweets are going to have ( a lot/nothing respectively). If you want to keep it quiet , send a card/make a call. At the very least this is the guys publically/knowingly putting it out there that some fences have been mended.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 05:45:44 AM: Don't misunderstand me, I'm totally with you and I'm participating in the specualtion and rumors and I also think that something is going on. I just find it funny nonetheless, how we, the fans, take every little bit of information and analyse it to death.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM: OK - let's shut up then. Don't want this to become DT-side :biggrin:
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2016, 05:53:51 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
OK - let's shut up then. Don't want this to become DT-side :biggrin:

Having just been in DT side, I agree wholeheartedly.

Let's get back to arguing about each other's music!
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2016, 12:30:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
Don't want this to become DT-side :biggrin:

But I was thinking that maybe after we've all had the weekend to give The Astonishing a few listens, perhaps we could have a small discussion group here amongst the regulars on Monday or so as opposed to wasting time posting in a sea of posts on the DT Side.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2016, 12:49:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
Don't want this to become DT-side :biggrin:

But I was thinking that maybe after we've all had the weekend to give The Astonishing a few listens, perhaps we could have a small discussion group here amongst the regulars on Monday or so as opposed to wasting time posting in a sea of posts on the DT Side.

I'm down with that.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2016, 01:06:22 PM: I live inside this thread so that sounds good to me!

I get lost many times in the sea of posts on the DT side lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 01:48:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
Don't want this to become DT-side :biggrin:

But I was thinking that maybe after we've all had the weekend to give The Astonishing a few listens, perhaps we could have a small discussion group here amongst the regulars on Monday or so as opposed to wasting time posting in a sea of posts on the DT Side.

All good - I was just referring to analysing every morsel of info to death. Having listened to it once myself ,I will be interested to see how much the group here differ in their views on the new DT from the "proggy style" crowd. It could be quite a lot................or not. :) I am about to have a second go , but at this point I am pretty sure that it's (mostly) not my cuppa tea.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2016, 02:00:06 PM: I've really been hoping for an album with piano and James so I'm happy with that.

This album is like if Elton John and King Diamond got together to make an album.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 02:04:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 02:00:06 PM

This album is like if Elton John and King Diamond got together to make an album.

Lucky for DT you're not marketing it. ;D
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2016, 02:07:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 02:00:06 PM

This album is like if Elton John and King Diamond got together to make an album.

Lucky for DT you're not marketing it. ;D

:lol

I have a never ending quest to turn people onto Dream Theater.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2016, 02:35:08 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
Don't want this to become DT-side :biggrin:

But I was thinking that maybe after we've all had the weekend to give The Astonishing a few listens, perhaps we could have a small discussion group here amongst the regulars on Monday or so as opposed to wasting time posting in a sea of posts on the DT Side.

All good - I was just referring to analysing every morsel of info to death. Having listened to it once myself ,I will be interested to see how much the group here differ in their views on the new DT from the "proggy style" crowd. It could be quite a lot................or not. :) I am about to have a second go , but at this point I am pretty sure that it's (mostly) not my cuppa tea.

yeah, I only got up to the end of disc 1 before Bandcamp took the page down. Definitely a lot to digest, and it's definitely not ToT-heavy. Not surprising to hear it's not in your wheelhouse. I'll be interested on JJ's take too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2016, 02:56:53 PM: It's not sounding like it will be a go to Dream Theater album

Is it slower/mid tempo for the most part?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 03:04:53 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2016, 02:56:53 PM
It's not sounding like it will be a go to Dream Theater album

Is it slower/mid tempo for the most part?

I would say yes.........and , as far as my taste goes, very few "self contained" songs that stand on their own outside of the story - maybe 4 or 5 out of 34 tracks that I am interested in returning to for an individual listen at this point. I can't see it being of much interest unless you're prepared to get invested in the characters and the story........and for me, I'll only bother with that if the music drags me in. That might seem back to front for some , but that's how it is with me and concept albums.

I'll have another listen this afternoon and post thoughts. For what is is , I think it's pretty good but "what it is" is a big part of the problem for me - an issue that many here will not have.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2016, 04:23:48 PM: It should be an interesting listen. I can't see myself getting too invested in the storyline or characters though
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2016, 07:18:46 PM: I'm getting a Nostradamus feel from it to be honest. Interested in hearing it. Don't know how much dedicated time I'll have over the week to fully absorb it though. It may sit on the back burner for me for a while.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2016, 08:58:32 PM: This the hard rock / classic metal thread, dangit. >:( Stick to hard rock / classic metal!
I come to this thread to get far away from that shit. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2016, 08:59:54 PM: (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EXCOIZzZvoA/TQGM0zK5SuI/AAAAAAAABiI/hoWBdNeouxk/s1600/Mr.%2BPeabody.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2016, 09:00:12 PM: Make me! :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2016, 09:01:23 PM: (https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/cce818891e697386353f28c59c1e1472/11090%20-%20Raw%20autoplay_gif%20gif%20sunglasses%20the_rock%20wwf.gif)
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Post by: Bolsters on January 28, 2016, 12:23:45 AM: DT related post just to annoy Blob:

I've listened to it twice. So far I think there's a couple of decent things on the first disc but nothing is blowing me away. I remember very little from the second disc though, I think after almost 80 minutes listening to the first I kind of tune the second one out, it's a lot to take in all at once and it doesn't help that both discs lacks variety and everything blurs together a bit. One day I will listen to the second on its own and see what happens.

But yeah, maybe it will grow on me but first impressions are that it's pretty average.

I haven't paid any attention to the story, I could not give any less of a shit about that. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 28, 2016, 12:48:02 AM: On the plus side, I agree with you.

And on the plus side, I still don't think we're allowed to discuss it yet anyway. :P
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Post by: bl5150 on January 28, 2016, 01:39:15 AM: On the plus side I pretty much agree with everything Bolsters said too.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 28, 2016, 03:01:32 AM: Primal Fear are one of those bands that were somehow underneath my radar. I'm sure I heard a couple tunes over time but nothing I can recall.

Yesterday I had a good listen of Rulebreaker and that was a great first impression. Maybe the album was one or two songs too long but nonetheless left a mark. Is album representative, better, worse than their back catalogue?
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Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2016, 04:09:18 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 28, 2016, 03:01:32 AM
Primal Fear are one of those bands that were somehow underneath my radar. I'm sure I heard a couple tunes over time but nothing I can recall.

Yesterday I had a good listen of Rulebreaker and that was a great first impression. Maybe the album was one or two songs too long but nonetheless left a mark. Is album representative, better, worse than their back catalogue?

Can't comment, but their entire catalog is nothing short of solid. Check;

Delivering the Black
Devil's Ground
Seven Seals
Nuclear Fire
Black Sun

:metal

In regards to the DT, I have a feeling that I will have the same opinions.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 28, 2016, 08:14:57 AM: You truly can't go wrong with any album from Primal Fear
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Post by: Evermind on January 28, 2016, 08:40:36 AM: I've checked out the new Primal Fear and yeah, it's pretty good even if a bit by the numbers. Don't think it's going to beat Delivering the Black in my book, but I enjoyed it. Highlights for me (in order): We Walk Without Fear (aka One Night in December pt. 2 ;D ), Bullets & Tears and The End is Near. There was also a great track somewhere near the end but I don't remember which one because I listened on the road and it was raining (in January. In Moscow. FFS) so I wasn't in the mood to check out the title on my phone.

Solid album overall.
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Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2016, 12:35:40 PM: I don't think this will surpass DTB for me. Gonna order it tonight. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 28, 2016, 02:02:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 28, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
I don't think this will surpass DTB for me. Gonna order it tonight. :metal

Kade, you said you are just going with the deluxe?
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Post by: Lowdz on January 28, 2016, 03:15:25 PM: The Primal Fear is up to standard. It sounds like Primal Fear. It helped me clean the bathroom in record time the other day, so that's a bonus :biggrin:

DT thoughts tomorrow night!!!
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:30:56 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 28, 2016, 02:02:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 28, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
I don't think this will surpass DTB for me. Gonna order it tonight. :metal

Kade, you said you are just going with the deluxe?

yeah mate, no reason to get the standard. I have to ask Jason, if the standard has everthing that is contained on the deluxe, why would you need to get both?
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 29, 2016, 05:50:16 AM: So during my lunch break I got the new DT and Avantasia. Now waiting for the working day to end, then send the kids to bed early, tell the wive to watch the whole twilight saga at least twice, lock myself in my room and LISTEN :metal :metal :metal

Still not decided which one's first but probably going with DT.
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Post by: TAC on January 29, 2016, 09:55:51 AM: Amazon delivered both to me YESTERDAY!!!

Listened to some if Ghostlights on the way in this morning.
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Post by: Evermind on January 29, 2016, 11:14:17 AM: Alright, off to do my first listen to The Astonishing. Will let you guys know what I think after it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 29, 2016, 12:52:09 PM: Um yeah... on first listen, Rulebreaker > Delivering the Black.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 29, 2016, 12:54:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 29, 2016, 09:55:51 AM
Amazon delivered both to me YESTERDAY!!!

Listened to some if Ghostlights on the way in this morning.

They haven't delivered either of mine. They are despatched tho.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 29, 2016, 02:37:32 PM: Ok, so I'm on my third listen to TA and I'm loving it. It's melodic, camp and glorious. I know it's not going to be Brent's cup of tea as there's not much that will work outside the concept.
Obviously not every single bit is awesome but the whole is a delight.
I love the change of pace, the acoustic parts (yes they sound a bit samey on first listen but some of that will be deliberate), piano, orchestration.
Yes, I've gone full fanboy.
We've already got metal DT, prog DT, hair metal prog DT, whatever the fuck SC was meant to be, so it's good that they've changed it up.
There's some Queen in there, some Savatage even, musical Theater :biggrin:and I think when viewed this way it makes sense. I Would go to see the show with actors playing the parts in full Phantom mode.

The only criticism? The bloody awful Disney ending where everyone (almost) lives happily ever after. I'll happily be the executioner for ~~Jaime Lannister~~ Darryus.

James kills it.

The metal heads are going to fucking hate it :lol

I've not touched the Avantasia yet. I yank it's going to be a bit half arsed after this :

Edit to make chads post look silly! And why the fuck you not heard it yet? I know it's early but... And if we're discussing the album there will be spoilers?
Have you seen Star Wars yet ? People die...
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 29, 2016, 02:51:27 PM: Either you're drunk, on a phone, or both.

Don't know what you're talking about, Paul??
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Post by: Lowdz on January 29, 2016, 02:57:22 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 29, 2016, 02:51:27 PM
Either you're drunk, on a phone, or both.

Thanks for the spoiler too! :(

Sorry bud :facepalm:

I can't spoiler the Avantasia. Not a clue what that's about :biggrin:
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 29, 2016, 03:14:42 PM: So my kids and my wife had other plans and therefore I've only listened to the first side of TA. First impression is good but this is a lot to take in. And this is definitely not a song oriented record. I think most of the songs don't work on their own.

Hopefully I find the time tomorrow to listen to the whole thing.

Heard some songs of the new Avantasia on my drive home, not the whole thing, but this record seems to deliver too.
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:00:17 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 29, 2016, 12:52:09 PM
Um yeah... on first listen, Rulebreaker > Delivering the Black.

This seems to be a common opinion, which is promising for me.

Quote from: Lowdz on January 29, 2016, 02:37:32 PM
The metal heads are going to fucking hate it :lol

I hope you're exaggerating.

To be honest, I'm heading out today to get the DT, but to be 100% honest, I'm really not that interested in putting time into this at the moment. It's hard for me at the moment to get a solid couple of hours of leisure time, and the comments have been turning me off. Although it's something I want to listen to on a whole and try and absorb it and really try and get into, I have a feeling I'll be on Brent's page.

You know, I might not even listen to it right away, might wait for the right time. :eek
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:28:09 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:30:56 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 28, 2016, 02:02:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 28, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
I don't think this will surpass DTB for me. Gonna order it tonight. :metal

Kade, you said you are just going with the deluxe?

yeah mate, no reason to get the standard. I have to ask Jason, if the standard has everthing that is contained on the deluxe, why would you need to get both?

There are just a handful of bands that I will always get both their regular and deluxe editions, no matter what. Ridiculous, I know. But Primal Fear is one of those bands.

Does anyone know the very short Coles notes of what the storyline is on TA?
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:34:33 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:28:09 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:30:56 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 28, 2016, 02:02:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 28, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
I don't think this will surpass DTB for me. Gonna order it tonight. :metal

Kade, you said you are just going with the deluxe?

yeah mate, no reason to get the standard. I have to ask Jason, if the standard has everthing that is contained on the deluxe, why would you need to get both?

There are just a handful of bands that I will always get both their regular and deluxe editions, no matter what. Ridiculous, I know. But Primal Fear is one of those bands.

Does anyone know the very short Coles notes of what the storyline is on TA?

Cool mate, I use to do that too, but don't anymore just because of funds.

And yeah, in regards to TA, I've been trying to look for a basic plot outline too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:40:10 PM: I'm sure its been stated somewhere on the DT side, but yeah I just want to find the basic plot

This white screen is weirding me out.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 29, 2016, 04:41:19 PM: There's a track by track explanation on the DT webpage I think. It showed up on my Facebook page earlier. As my physical copy hasn't arrived yet it cleared things up a bit. Split the ending a bit as the first couple of plays thru I kinda worked out what was going on but not the ending.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 29, 2016, 04:43:12 PM: https://www.dreamtheater.net/theastonishing
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:43:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:40:10 PM
This white screen is weirding me out.

I changed it right away.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:46:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:40:10 PM
This white screen is weirding me out.

I changed it right away.

how do you do that?
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:51:02 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 29, 2016, 04:43:12 PM
https://www.dreamtheater.net/theastonishing

Wow, you can stream the whole album on that page.

New Soto track. Pretty much the same vibe as the first album, pretty modern, not bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAZCUVQjHag
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:52:18 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:40:10 PM
This white screen is weirding me out.

I changed it right away.

how do you do that?

Go profile, then down a bit and hover over the modify profile tab and then go look and layout. I still use the Black Clouds one. Love the dark background and it doesn't hurt my eyes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:54:53 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:52:18 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 29, 2016, 04:40:10 PM
This white screen is weirding me out.

I changed it right away.

how do you do that?

Go profile, then down a bit and hover over the modify profile tab and then go look and layout. I still use the Black Clouds one. Love the dark background and it doesn't hurt my eyes.

copy, thanks brother!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 29, 2016, 05:54:31 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 29, 2016, 02:37:32 PM
Edit to make chads post look silly! And why the fuck you not heard it yet? I know it's early but... And if we're discussing the album there will be spoilers?
Have you seen Star Wars yet ? People die...

I don't know what you're talking about pal. :biggrin:

And I went out tonight to get a physical copy, so I could follow along with the lyrics for my first listen. Will be listening momentarily.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on January 29, 2016, 07:55:36 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 29, 2016, 12:52:09 PM
Um yeah... on first listen, Rulebreaker > Delivering the Black.
I don't agree with this. But Rulebreaker is very good.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 29, 2016, 09:43:12 PM: Bleh, I remember when I could go to GMD to get away from this stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 30, 2016, 04:18:17 AM: HMV had lots of Dream Theater, but not surprisingly had jack squat for Primal Fear. Will arrive next week through trusty Amazon
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 30, 2016, 04:29:36 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 30, 2016, 04:18:17 AM
HMV had lots of Dream Theater, but not surprisingly had jack squat for Primal Fear. Will arrive next week through trusty Amazon

Two of the three HMV's in my area were sold out of DT, the third never even had any. I got lucky and found a Wal-Mart with copies - $15 too. $13 for Avantasia, and no luck with PF or Serenity. It'll be digital download for those.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 30, 2016, 03:04:23 PM: Biggest complaint with the Astonishing so far? What dickhead put white writing with a background of white clouds on the back cover? Fuckwit!
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 30, 2016, 04:44:40 PM: There is some good stuff on The Astonishing, but I have the exact same opinion of it as I do Nostradamus by Judas Priest. And I will state that there isn't one song from either Priest or Dream Theater that I dislike in their entire discography.

But like Nostradamus, and let's call a spade a spade, The Astonishing is a bit of a snooze fest and somewhat of a chore to get through in its entirety.

But I definitely enjoy some of the tunes, but overall I find it too long and slow.

I know that this will end up just being a once a year courtesy listen for me, just out of respect for DT

And I can safely say that Images & Words has nothing to worry about in regards to losing its number one ranking.

After being extremely impressed with DT12, I am overall disappointed with this one
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 30, 2016, 07:17:00 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 30, 2016, 03:04:23 PM
Biggest complaint with the Astonishing so far? What dickhead put white writing with a background of white clouds on the back cover? Fuckwit!

And that the booklet is glued to the sleeve. >:(

Still haven't plowed thru disc 2 yet.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 31, 2016, 02:40:21 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 30, 2016, 04:44:40 PM
There is some good stuff on The Astonishing, but I have the exact same opinion of it as I do Nostradamus by Judas Priest. And I will state that there isn't one song from either Priest or Dream Theater that I dislike in their entire discography.

But like Nostradamus, and let's call a spade a spade, The Astonishing is a bit of a snooze fest and somewhat of a chore to get through in its entirety.

But I definitely enjoy some of the tunes, but overall I find it too long and slow.

I know that this will end up just being a once a year courtesy listen for me, just out of respect for DT

And I can safely say that Images & Words has nothing to worry about in regards to losing its number one ranking.

After being extremely impressed with DT12, I am overall disappointed with this one

I know what you mean jj. Taken as a DT album you're right, but I realised long ago it wasn't going to be a regular DT album and reset my expectations accordingly. I certainly didn't know if I'd like it but I really love it for what it is, not dislike it for what it isn't.
A bit like KISS the Elder. Shit KISS album, cool odd concept album.

It is a change of pace for DT. But one I was ready for. And it was brave as fuck.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 31, 2016, 03:42:07 AM: The Elder is a good comparison too. And I actually view The Elder the exact same way too as Nostadamus and now, TA. I enjoy it, but it's not a go to album. Just find it slow and plodding.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2016, 03:42:47 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 30, 2016, 07:17:00 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 30, 2016, 03:04:23 PM
Biggest complaint with the Astonishing so far? What dickhead put white writing with a background of white clouds on the back cover? Fuckwit!

And that the booklet is glued to the sleeve. >:(

Still haven't plowed thru disc 2 yet.

Got my copy and couldn't fucking believe this. What a joke, fucking roadrunner!

Haven't listened to it yet and I just got home from the weekend and bed in half an hour, and have to get up at 4. Not sure when I'll squeeze a listen in.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 31, 2016, 03:54:48 AM: I'm interested to see what Wolf thinks of it
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Post by: TAC on January 31, 2016, 11:11:03 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 31, 2016, 02:40:21 AM

Taken as a DT album you're right, but I realised long ago it wasn't going to be a regular DT album and reset my expectations accordingly. I certainly didn't know if I'd like it but I really love it for what it is, not dislike it for what it isn't.

It is a change of pace for DT. But one I was ready for. And it was brave as fuck.

I agree.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2016, 07:09:32 PM: My Windows 7 PC is in the process of dying and so now I have to order,set up a new one/learn new OS in the middle of moving etc..............so my 80% completed podcast is going to stay that way for a while I am afraid.

Hoping I can nurse this one through the next few weeks but am losing functionality by the day with various programs etc.....

I will try and listen to The Astonishing one more time before attempting to rate it , but to this point i basically agree with Bolsters and jj.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 31, 2016, 07:47:30 PM: Mac, FTW. If Ya gotta learn a whole new OS anyway, make it an easier one. :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2016, 08:34:45 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 31, 2016, 07:47:30 PM
Mac, FTW. If Ya gotta learn a whole new OS anyway, make it an easier one. :)

OSX isn't any easier to use at all. Get outta here, fanboy. ;)

And you don't have to learn a new OS anyway. Windows 10 isn't that different to 7.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2016, 08:54:43 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2016, 08:34:45 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 31, 2016, 07:47:30 PM
Mac, FTW. If Ya gotta learn a whole new OS anyway, make it an easier one. :)

OSX isn't any easier to use at all. Get outta here, fanboy. ;)

And you don't have to learn a new OS anyway. Windows 10 isn't that different to 7.

Good to hear. I need to get this stuff set up pronto and also have a multi monitor setup that I have planned out with an Ergotron sit/stand thingy where I can walk in and just lift/drop the whole setup (to help my back).........so there's a few barriers to a whole new Apple set up. A Windows desktop system will be easier to set up like that and , although I am no PC nerd by any means , my 15 years experience with Windows will help me a bit with getting this done as quick as possible. The PC I have in mind to order will be faster/cheaper than anything I can get from Apple (within reason) but I go into it with the knowledge that I may well need to upgrade again much sooner than if I had gone with Apple and I'm cool with that.

Hopefully I'll be up and running soon. Getting myself an SSD for the system drive this time which should help things along.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2016, 09:06:00 PM: Cool. I'm looking to get a standing desk myself, so I adjust the whole desk height rather than a thing on the desk itself. If you're already used to your setup with recording/making your podcasts, you don't want a whole new system to deal with on top of moving and everything else.

I still haven't checked out your podcasts, but seeing some of the songs you've included that I love, I really need to get on that. :tup Is there a post with every link in it?
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Post by: Bolsters on January 31, 2016, 09:18:03 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2016, 09:06:00 PM
I still haven't checked out your podcasts, but seeing some of the songs you've included that I love, I really need to get on that. :tup Is there a post with every link in it?
If I recall, they're all in the OP.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2016, 09:19:12 PM: Well duh @ me. :lolpalm: I forgot that bl5150 started the thread, so that would make too much sense. Thanks.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2016, 01:29:15 AM: Yeah Brent. DT really didn't make this one for you :lol
Not much here will work outside the concept though there are great standalone tracks. I absolutely love Our New World. What a chorus.
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2016, 04:32:38 AM: Yeah just got home and it's 9:30pm, and only sitting up for another half hour. Should I just put TA in the car and listen to it disjointedly, or wait until I can sit and listen to the whole thing?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2016, 04:34:09 AM: Before bed - don't put it on in the car for God's sake - safety first :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2016, 04:39:03 AM: :lol

Alright, maybe tomorrow. I don't think it's a good sign that I'm not even eager to check it out, and will only sit through it when I have the time.
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2016, 04:50:02 AM: I'm having a listen to a couple of tracks from the new ARP. There is simply no reason that anyone would need to purchase this album. ARP has become the metal version of ACDC, nothing new at all. The title track is pretty good and overall, there's nothing wrong with it, but Jesus, even Blackie can vary it up more than this.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 01, 2016, 04:52:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 01, 2016, 04:32:38 AM
Yeah just got home and it's 9:30pm, and only sitting up for another half hour. Should I just put TA in the car and listen to it disjointedly, or wait until I can sit and listen to the whole thing?

If you can get at least a sitting with each disc, that would suffice - that's all I've been able to do so far.
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2016, 05:01:31 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 01, 2016, 04:52:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 01, 2016, 04:32:38 AM
Yeah just got home and it's 9:30pm, and only sitting up for another half hour. Should I just put TA in the car and listen to it disjointedly, or wait until I can sit and listen to the whole thing?

If you can get at least a sitting with each disc, that would suffice - that's all I've been able to do so far.

Yeah, that was my plan, will aim for tomorrow with the first disc.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2016, 11:20:47 AM: My first full listen was in the car but it didn't make any sense until I sat with the album on and the track by track on the iPad.

But it's not a normal DT album and you probably need to go in with that in mind.
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2016, 12:33:12 PM: I've spent the last week listening to The Astonishing and I just want to say that I think it is absolutely brilliant. I can see easily why the metal crowd could be put off, as it does get quiet and slow in many places. The first CD does take a while to get through.

Two things that I have begging for from a new DT album were more piano and James going off. This album has both in spades. James is amazing here. No idea how it'll sound live, but he nails this album.

Definitely has a soundtrack feel, as opposed to a rock album, but I think that's cool. A huge gamble for the band, but I think it works perfectly. So many great songs on this album. And so many great parts of songs.

The only criticism I have, and I don't know if it's even fair for an album like this, is that there are so many parts and lines that I wish would go on so much longer than they do, but the music does really fit with the action.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 01, 2016, 12:58:41 PM: ^ This I did not expect.
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2016, 01:04:57 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 01, 2016, 12:58:41 PM
^ This I did not expect.

Chad, I LOVE Dream Theater. They ARE my favorite band. But I don't need my metal from them. The reason I loved them was that they brought in parts of different types of music and presented them in a hard rock manner. And I love that.

Plus:
Quote from: TAC on February 01, 2016, 12:33:12 PM
Two things that I have begging for from a new DT album were more piano and James going off. This album has both in spades. James is amazing here. No idea how it'll sound live, but he nails this album.
I mean this. I've been so disappointed with the vocals now for a long time. Not that they haven't been sung perfectly, but I've felt that James is an untapped resource for the band. Jordan too for that matter. They both shine so much on this and it is really refreshing to hear.

I loved ADTOE and was lukewarm on DT12. Things like Far From Heaven have just been so scarce on DT albums.
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Post by: Prog Snob on February 01, 2016, 01:14:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 01, 2016, 01:04:57 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on February 01, 2016, 12:58:41 PM
^ This I did not expect.

Chad, I LOVE Dream Theater. They ARE my favorite band. But I don't need my metal from them. The reason I loved them was that they brought in parts of different types of music and presented them in a hard rock manner. And I love that.

This is kind of how I feel. I don't go to Dream Theater for my metal. It's an added bonus that they incorporate it in a lot of their music, but I go to DT for something different, unorthodox, adventurous, mind-blowing. I think that's the mistake people sometimes make with Dream Theater. It's like misusing a short-reliever in a baseball game and then complaining you didn't get what you wanted out of him.
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2016, 01:15:55 PM: Quote from: Prog Snob on February 01, 2016, 01:14:02 PM
This is kind of how I feel. I don't go to Dream Theater for my metal. It's an added bonus that they incorporate it in a lot of their music, but I go to DT for something different, unorthodox, adventurous, mind-blowing.

Well said. I agree.
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2016, 01:32:23 PM: Interesting opinions. I guess DT have been doing the metal thing for so long, you just come to expect it in their music I suppose. I am going to go into it with an open mind and no real expectations at all to be honest.
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2016, 01:47:42 PM: Probably a good idea Kade. There's a ton to chew on. But you have to be able to accept the ballad-y stuff to get through this album. There's a lot of it. But it's story, so a lot of it is reflective kind of stuff. But there are definitely heavy moments but all in all, it is still Dream Theater.
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Post by: Prog Snob on February 01, 2016, 01:51:48 PM: It's the "lightest" release they've ever put out.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 01, 2016, 01:55:04 PM: I hear ya Tim/John. I just wasn't expecting you (given your tastes) to pop a chubby over this. I'm all about diversity when it comes to DT, and I appreciate the 'less' metal albums (8vm, ADTOE) moreso than the 'more' metal ones (BCSL, SC). And I love me my complex/concept albums. I think I'll love this one, once I'm able to give it it's due. So far, only 1 listen in to it, as I just haven't had the consecutive disposable time to put into this.
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Post by: Prog Snob on February 01, 2016, 02:00:02 PM: There aren't any epic style tracks on here that I think will be the next Metropolis or A Change of Seasons, but most of the songs have hooks and you'll be singing them in your head. Our New World is NOT the typical Dream Theater song. It reminds me of a hair metal riff. I don't know. That's the feeling I get. It's catchy as hell though.
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2016, 02:18:45 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 01, 2016, 01:55:04 PM
as I just haven't had the consecutive disposable time to put into this.

This will be my main issue too and I haven't even listened to it yet.
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Post by: Prog Snob on February 01, 2016, 04:06:16 PM: I think that's the main struggle for anyone with a job and/or a family. :lol I just split it into two acts. There's no way I'll have two plus hours of uninterrupted time. Even traveling into work is only 90 minutes.
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2016, 04:09:42 PM: The worst thing about getting older is never having the time to just sit and listen to music. Honestly, that's what I miss most about my youth. When nothing mattered except what album I was listening to.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 01, 2016, 04:36:46 PM: My next trip isn't until Feb 23rd too. That's probably the only time in the near future I'll have 2:10 to me uninterrupted.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 01, 2016, 05:41:23 PM: What I may try and do is listen to songs seperately on my ipod and see if anything catches on by doing that. I will say that playing TA, not one song stuck in my head or stood out to me. It just felt like a blur, but I still could sense some quality stuff on it. Maybe just playing a song randomly might trigger something for me.
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Post by: King Postwhore on February 01, 2016, 05:50:20 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 01, 2016, 04:09:42 PM
The worst thing about getting older is never having the time to just sit and listen to music. Honestly, that's what I miss most about my youth. When nothing mattered except what album I was listening to.

Amen to this.
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Post by: Bolsters on February 01, 2016, 07:45:04 PM: I've been wanting DT to tone down the metal side of their music for a long time. I like the older stuff that's heavy, but I think the last few albums (SC and onward) the heavier tracks have been stale, predictable, and boring, so I enjoyed the softer tracks more for the mostpart. Infact a couple of years ago I realised that I'd be all for them doing an entire album in the style of Beneath The Surface and Far From Heaven (but I'm well aware that it will never happen). So I was excited when I heard that this album wasn't going to be wall-to-wall metal and that it was going to be lighter. I heard that Jordan was playing more piano than ever - another thing that I really wanted them to do. But while I don't really dislike this album and I still need to listen to it more (I'm three listens in), I still think they've made something that is quite bland. The album has its very few moments, but they are lost in a two hour and ten minute sea of mediocrity.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2016, 08:13:05 PM: OK.............I have now listened to The Astonishing three times , last time reading along with the story on dt.net and I must admit that it did boost the listening experience. So , as I originally surmised , if you're not prepared to get involved in the story there ain't much there in terms of individual songs. I normally wouldn't even bother , as if I don't like the music right off the bat I generally don't bother with concepts or rock operas at all. That's why I never got into SFAM as it just sounded too focused on forcibly squeezing the story into a song format and I felt it dragged down the quality of the music/songs.

Paul was right in saying that DT didn't write this for me. My normal response to anything on TV or stage that involves drama combined with people breaking out into song is to throw up. The whole idea of musicals etc.....just does nothing for me. So when you take into account that I am rating this 75% (which is higher than I rate most albums from FII through to SC) then I think they have done a decent job. For what it is , it's very good and far more appealing to me than anything I have heard from Ayreon or the like.........I just don't hear the musical genius that others do there (or here really).

The highlights for me generally involved something resembling a full song and some good guitar playing - A Better Life, Chosen,A New Beginning and Moment of Betrayal. Of the 34 tracks they are likely the ones I would return to individually - other than that it's pretty much a "listen to the whole thing or not at all" for me and that won't be happening much I'm afraid .

The lack of heaviness doesn't bother me at all - I probably have more wimp rock in my collection than most of you guys :lol And when it comes to DT my taste generally doesn't follow the rules:

- I&W supposedly is very Rush like :)
- metalheads should like ToT (I don't rate it at all - 2nd lowest ranking above SC)

etc......

POSITIVES:

- it is definitely the more melodic DT here , which is the style I like best. Having said that it's a bit light on the prog even for me.
- JLB does really well
- I think they did a good job within the chosen format. My preferred concept album style is an album full of genuine songs that loosely tell the story , with verbal interludes etc....( Mindcrime, Crimson Idol, Streets) rather than an ongoing conversation between characters /rock opera etc...

With that in mind I am glad that JLB did the lot. I am not observant enough to pick up all the cues for his various characters in this so I am not fussed. If it was a whole load of other singers I think I would've liked it less.

- the album has good production , but there's also the odd downside IMHO

NEGATIVES

- once I decided to be a sport and give the cheesy storyline a go , the music flowed a lot better (as expected). However after listening to it 3 times I could probably only hum you 5-10 mins in total. Memorable musical moments are few and far between for me , despite it being a nice enough listen. I get more from one song on Images and Words than this whole album

- Jordan has been given the keys to the DT car here and IMHO has confirmed what I have always felt - that he's a gun of a player but not quite as good as a composer. I realise that there are recurring themes in the music that are done on purpose , but that doesn't account for all of the lack of variety. The soundscapes that I might have expected (I would love to know how Kev Mo' would've approached this......) just aren't there and the slow , plodding epic moments all have the same feel.

- I mentioned in the positives that the production is good in terms of clarity but I would've liked this album to have its own personality/sound (which all their other albums do). Aside from the improvement in clarity , to me this is close enough to a carbon copy of the DT 12 sound , which even further emphasises the familiar sounding epic moments , many of which can also be heard in very similar fashion in songs like The Bigger Picture (When Your Time Has Come/Ravenskill) , Illumination Theory (2285) Come to think of it Ravenskill also brought to mind Savatage , which is no bad thing.

Those are the main thoughts that were running through my head as I listened. To get a mark bordering on an 8/10 from me for this style of album is probably some sort of achievement. Part of that rating is an appreciation of the effort/guts it took to go this way and do a good job in a format that I don't really like. It won't be getting much play from me , but I do appreciate what they have done.

Do you think the fanboys over on DT side would get offended it I posted my 4 song abridged version ? :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2016, 08:38:35 PM: That was a good read Brent. Gonna dive into the first act tonight.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2016, 04:49:37 AM: That's a good and fair review!
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Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 04:50:35 AM: TA gets put on hold for another day for me. :lol
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Post by: ozzy554 on February 02, 2016, 08:17:37 AM: Still waiting for my copy to arrive in the mail
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Post by: TAC on February 02, 2016, 09:25:03 AM: Totally fair review Brent.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 02, 2016, 12:38:45 PM: Nice try Brent. That's a lot better than I expected you to rate it. I'm still loving the shit out of it.
I'm with you on musicals generally, though I have seen phantom and rocky horror and enjoyed them in the theater.
The closest I have to an album anything like this is Jeff Lynne's war of the worlds.

I do read a lot of fantasy so that helps, but I was filled with dread at the thought of what they were attempting so maybe my love for TA is in part due to relief :lol

I've probably played it 6 times through now and I keep finding the recurring themes and motifs.

Yeah, I'm loving it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2016, 02:53:46 PM: Primal Fear :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 02:55:37 PM: It's good then hey Jason?
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2016, 02:58:22 PM: Oh yeah, it's everything you would expect from PF.

I'm not overly familiar with Axel Rudi Pell (except for some hits and the Nasty Reputation album with Rob), but I know you guys mention that all of his albums sound similar. I guess you could probably say the same thing about Primal Fear, but I find they change things up and add things enough where it doesnt fall into the ACDC category.
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Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 02:59:40 PM: Yeah, PF will never get to the ARP category of rehashing the same shit, but I know what you mean. You don't want much change in the PF style anyway. Interesting to see how it stacks up against DTB.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2016, 03:01:35 PM: Not likely to ever top that one. But I will say that I am glad to hear Primal Fear this week after playing The Astonishing last week.
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Post by: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:04:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 02:59:40 PM
Yeah, PF will never get to the ARP category of rehashing the same shit,

They won't??

I'm not totally into them, but I feel like I already know what the new one will be like.
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Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 03:07:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 02:59:40 PM
Yeah, PF will never get to the ARP category of rehashing the same shit,

They won't??

I'm not totally into them, but I feel like I already know what the new one will be like.

No, ARP takes it to another level. That's just my opinion though. In terms of the bands individual styles, and their discographies, there is a lot more variety on PF albums then on ARP albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2016, 03:08:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 02:59:40 PM
Yeah, PF will never get to the ARP category of rehashing the same shit,

They won't??

I'm not totally into them, but I feel like I already know what the new one will be like.

You're probably right Tim! And Primal Fear doesnt change their formula up too much ever. If it's ARP or ACDC level, thats subjective. But I'm a sucker for classic old school metal, so it all sounds good to me!
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Post by: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:09:55 PM: Yeah, I've had a hard time with PF holding my attention. Ralf is an acquired taste I think. It's been awhile since I spun DTB. It's not that I don't like it, but to me, it's "just there".
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2016, 03:10:36 PM: Do you not get the Judas Priest vibe?
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Post by: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:17:43 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 02, 2016, 03:10:36 PM
Do you not get the Judas Priest vibe?

Oh yeah, totally. But I'm also not wicked into Judas Priest either. I hope that's not too controversial. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 02, 2016, 03:18:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:09:55 PM
Yeah, I've had a hard time with PF holding my attention. Ralf is an acquired taste I think. It's been awhile since I spun DTB. It's not that I don't like it, but to me, it's "just there".

I like Rulebreaker better than DTB because it does mix it up a bit -there's some more varied songwriting. And the bonus tracks add to that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2016, 03:23:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 02, 2016, 03:10:36 PM
Do you not get the Judas Priest vibe?

Oh yeah, totally. But I'm also not wicked into Judas Priest either. I hope that's not too controversial. ;D

That makes sense then. I can't see someone being huge into PF if they arent much into Priest. The two seem to go hand in hand.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:26:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 02, 2016, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:09:55 PM
Yeah, I've had a hard time with PF holding my attention. Ralf is an acquired taste I think. It's been awhile since I spun DTB. It's not that I don't like it, but to me, it's "just there".

I like Rulebreaker better than DTB because it does mix it up a bit -there's some more varied songwriting. And the bonus tracks add to that.

I do plan on getting it, but it's probably a few weeks away.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2016, 03:52:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 01, 2016, 08:13:05 PM
OK.............I have now listened to The Astonishing three times , last time reading along with the story on dt.net and I must admit that it did boost the listening experience. So , as I originally surmised , if you're not prepared to get involved in the story there ain't much there in terms of individual songs. I normally wouldn't even bother , as if I don't like the music right off the bat I generally don't bother with concepts or rock operas at all. That's why I never got into SFAM as it just sounded too focused on forcibly squeezing the story into a song format and I felt it dragged down the quality of the music/songs.

Now that I'm home, I can properly take all of your review in. I didn't realize you weren't a fan of SFAM.
I totally understand the "squeezing in the story" feeling and how it can be a turn off. I don't really feel that way about Scenes, but I get it. King Diamond, I feel, can sometimes be guilty of this (Abigail II).

As I got through Disc 1, I kept thinking, well what if this was it, and how would that stack up to Scenes. The thing about Scenes is that musically it is so intense. And the moodier stuff (TSCO) hits a home run, where I think TA lacks this home run climax. Hymn Of A Thousand Voices could've done that, but I think it comes quite short.
Also, Scenes has Through Her Eyes, which is cool. But it's cool that they only go to that well once, as opposed to what seems like 10 times on TA.

I don't think TA will crack my Top 3 or so, but I still feel that while it has its warts, it's an awesome album, which I do love. It's an album that I feel like DT had to make.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 02, 2016, 03:59:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 02, 2016, 03:18:50 PM
I like Rulebreaker better than DTB because it does mix it up a bit -there's some more varied songwriting. And the bonus tracks add to that.

So far, I'm giving Rulebreaker a slight edge over DTB.

And as far as ARP goes, if you've heard one album, you've heard 'em all - the only variety in his albums is when he changes vocalists - and Gioelli has been there for what Kade... 5-6 albums? Haven't heard the new one, but the one from '14 was enjoyable, but just the same ole, same ole from him. Not that it's bad, but I don't see the need to continually give him $10 for something I've already got in my library 4 times over. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 04:01:11 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 02, 2016, 03:59:14 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 02, 2016, 03:18:50 PM
I like Rulebreaker better than DTB because it does mix it up a bit -there's some more varied songwriting. And the bonus tracks add to that.

So far, I'm giving Rulebreaker a slight edge over DTB.

And as far as ARP goes, if you've heard one album, you've heard 'em all - the only variety in his albums is when he changes vocalists - and Gioelli has been there for what Kade... 5-6 albums? Haven't heard the new one, but the one from '14 was enjoyable, but just the same ole, same ole from him. Not that it's bad, but I don't see the need to continually give him $10 for something I've already got in my library 4 times over. :biggrin:

Try 10 (including the new one) and 1 cover album.

Your last sentence sums up my views too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 02, 2016, 04:21:44 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 04:01:11 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on February 02, 2016, 03:59:14 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 02, 2016, 03:18:50 PM
I like Rulebreaker better than DTB because it does mix it up a bit -there's some more varied songwriting. And the bonus tracks add to that.

So far, I'm giving Rulebreaker a slight edge over DTB.

And as far as ARP goes, if you've heard one album, you've heard 'em all - the only variety in his albums is when he changes vocalists - and Gioelli has been there for what Kade... 5-6 albums? Haven't heard the new one, but the one from '14 was enjoyable, but just the same ole, same ole from him. Not that it's bad, but I don't see the need to continually give him $10 for something I've already got in my library 4 times over. :biggrin:

Try 10 (including the new one) and 1 cover album.

Your last sentence sums up my views too.

It's not even funny anymore. There's just no point. How many times can you rewrite The Oceans of Time? The new one is fine, it's just no different to the last several. First one is still the best.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 07:35:24 PM: That's what I thought when listening to it. What's the point, seriously?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 03, 2016, 01:27:20 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
That's what I thought when listening to it. What's the point, seriously?

If an ARP song came on randomly you'd have little chance of knowing what album it was from. You could probably guess the track number though :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 03, 2016, 01:33:28 PM: wow, its that bad with ARP'S material?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 03, 2016, 01:43:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 03, 2016, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
That's what I thought when listening to it. What's the point, seriously?

If an ARP song came on randomly you'd have little chance of knowing what album it was from. You could probably guess the track number though :lol

I literally laughed out loud. Good thing I wasn't drinking anything.

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 03, 2016, 01:33:28 PM
wow, its that bad with ARP'S material?

Pretty much. It's not that it's bad to listen to, just that he's the musical equivalent of Groundhog Day.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2016, 04:20:46 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 03, 2016, 01:33:28 PM
wow, its that bad with ARP'S material?

Yes, and it's getting worse as the albums go on.

Quote from: Lowdz on February 03, 2016, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 02, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
That's what I thought when listening to it. What's the point, seriously?

If an ARP song came on randomly you'd have little chance of knowing what album it was from. You could probably guess the track number though :lol

haha, yeah very true.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on February 04, 2016, 09:48:02 AM: I finally got The Astonishing in the mail today. Now just to actually sit myself down to listen to it.

Also who ever had the bright idea to glue the booklet to the case should be fired :lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 04, 2016, 12:30:46 PM: When I listened, I didn't follow along with the booklet. Did anyone find that helped get into the album more?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on February 04, 2016, 01:14:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 01, 2016, 08:13:05 PM
OK.............I have now listened to The Astonishing three times , last time reading along with the story on dt.net and I must admit that it did boost the listening experience.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 04, 2016, 02:45:54 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 04, 2016, 12:30:46 PM
When I listened, I didn't follow along with the booklet. Did anyone find that helped get into the album more?

Yep. You might as well know what the fuck is going on if you're going to do it. The track by track on the Astonishing web page is very helpful too. Still playing it every day but did break it up a bit with Rulebreaker and the new Brainstorm.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 05, 2016, 12:10:44 PM: Have we talked about the Resurrection Kings album?mhave had a listen and it's pretty good. Another one with a Whitesnake vibe but not as much of a direct copy as the Voodoo Circle.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 05, 2016, 01:01:37 PM: I spun that recently too, and thought it was VERY good. Thought it would be another Frontiers-by-the-numbers, but found it really good.

Wait, I'm mixing this up with Revolution Saints.

Oh, FFS! Frontiers really needs to come of with some better project names!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 05, 2016, 03:13:52 PM: I like what I hear from Resurrection Kings; same kind of vibe as Voodoo Circle

Why Jake didn't keep Chas West is strange. Great voice on this guy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2016, 04:21:03 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 05, 2016, 03:13:52 PM
I like what I hear from Resurrection Kings; same kind of vibe as Voodoo Circle

Why Jake didn't keep Chas West is strange. Great voice on this guy.

Hmm...I wasn't that impressed with the songs I heard, but I should check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 05, 2016, 08:34:41 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 05, 2016, 12:10:44 PM
Have we talked about the Resurrection Kings album?mhave had a listen and it's pretty good. Another one with a Whitesnake vibe but not as much of a direct copy as the Voodoo Circle.

I thought it was a solid album, still want to spin it more. I don't get a Whitesnake vibe from it at all, just vintage Dio, with the exception of Path of Love which has that sleazier rock groove to it.

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 05, 2016, 01:01:37 PM
I spun that recently too, and thought it was VERY good. Thought it would be another Frontiers-by-the-numbers, but found it really good.

Wait, I'm mixing this up with Revolution Saints.

Oh, FFS! Frontiers really needs to come of with some better project names!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNWnX4a_fwc

I still need to grab that Revolution Saints album. I liked what I heard, I like the people involved, and I like the standard Journey production. No idea why I never got it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on February 05, 2016, 08:42:23 PM: Was the Revolution Saints album the one that had a clone of Never Walk Away on it?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2016, 03:17:56 AM: That Revolution Saints album was really enjoyable, very solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2016, 04:22:33 AM: I'm listening to Act 1 of the Astonishing first the first time, and I'm not sure if this is just a steaming turd, or I'm just not digging it at all. Seriously, what a fucking borefest. No memorable sections, no catchy choruses, just uninspired, endless sections that seem to have no flow or any coherency. And seems to be that the only heavy sections are rips of The Test That Stumped Them All to my ears. I'm up to Brother, Can You Hear Me, and I honestly can't wait for this to end, so disappointing. Shit story too and I'm following the book and the website as I listen.

Maybe it will get better towards the end of the disc.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 07, 2016, 04:24:15 AM: Most of what I like about the album is over by Brother Can You Hear Me. :lol That's the strongest run of the album by far.
The second disc is generally heavier, but imo much less memorable or well written.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2016, 04:30:20 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 07, 2016, 04:24:15 AM
Most of what I like about the album is over by Brother Can You Hear Me. :lol That's the strongest run of the album by far.

Good lord. :facepalm:

Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 07, 2016, 04:24:15 AM
The second disc is generally heavier, but imo much less memorable or well written.

So there's some hope then.

A Life Left Behind just rolled by and at least it had a bit more of a memorable chorus.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Train of Naught on February 07, 2016, 04:34:05 AM: I'm taking a guess here and say that if you find nothing memorable about Act 1, you'll be even more disappointed with the second act.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2016, 04:39:58 AM: Quote from: Train of Naught on February 07, 2016, 04:34:05 AM
I'm taking a guess here and say that if you find nothing memorable about Act 1, you'll be even more disappointed with the second act.

More than likely.

Chosen could have been a great stand alone song with a bit of reworking.

As a fan since Scenes, this is quite devastating. I wasn't a big fan of ADTOE at all, but I don't know, this is just something else. Not sure how people can listen to this over and over. I think I'll have trouble even listening to it for a second time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 07, 2016, 05:05:25 AM: I just think there is a complete misalignment in what The Astonishing is (and professes to be), vs your tastes Kade. Honestly not surprised to hear this at all from you. What's more surprising is that Paul and Tim are loving it.

I'm kinda middle-of-the-road. I can appreciate some/much of it, but too much of it feels forced. Like, if it's going to be a story I'm going to get involved in, I don't need the lyrics to be so goddamn explanatory! Things like "they ask me "Ahrys... could things be any tougher" and other parts where they have explicitly told us what's going on - I don't need to be told that this is Ahrys. The art of a concept album is in knowing that the listener is invested into it. Especially in this case where there really is only a couple of songs that stand alone on their own, this album is going to appeal to the listener that dives into the story and characters.

And they really should have hired a female lead to play the part of Faythe. They could've brought her (whoever) on tour with them too. Hell, if Kamelot can do it, DT sure as shit can.

You don't see SFAM pulling shit like that. Or O:M, or The Wall, or T.H.E., or .... I could go on.

The more I think about what I don't like, the more I'm leaning towards your opinion, Kade. I wouldn't call it a steaming turd, but it's currently near the bottom of my DT album rankings. I'll give it more chances though - especially since I shelled out $95 to see them in April.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on February 07, 2016, 05:08:31 AM: I too think The Answer - Three Days is the strongest run on The Astonishing, so yeah. :lol

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 07, 2016, 05:05:25 AM
And they really should have hired a female lead to play the part of Faythe. They could've brought her (whoever) on tour with them too. Hell, if Kamelot can do it, DT sure as shit can.

So much this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 07, 2016, 08:40:43 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2016, 04:39:58 AM
Quote from: Train of Naught on February 07, 2016, 04:34:05 AM
I'm taking a guess here and say that if you find nothing memorable about Act 1, you'll be even more disappointed with the second act.

More than likely.

Chosen could have been a great stand alone song with a bit of reworking.

As a fan since Scenes, this is quite devastating. I wasn't a big fan of ADTOE at all, but I don't know, this is just something else. Not sure how people can listen to this over and over. I think I'll have trouble even listening to it for a second time.

Well, this quote is correct. It is something else, not a normal DT album. They've been totally upfront about that. I compared I it previously to KISS's The Elder and that applies here. I loved the Elder for being different and it's the same here. Did I need another ADTOE or DT12? No, but I'd have been fine with it.
It helps that I'm a fantasy fan, can accept the story and I don't really have anything else like it.
The more you put into it the more you'll get out, but it's not a metal album at all.
The ending is still twee and shit though. The emperor was so awful we were going to war with him but we'll just let him off all the oppression because we can listen to music again?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 07, 2016, 08:45:53 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 07, 2016, 08:40:43 AM
The ending is still twee and shit though. The emperor was so awful we were going to war with him but we'll just let him off all the oppression because we can listen to music again?

The whole concept with music fixing everything is too idealistic and a little pretentious. I normally don't really care about lyrics, but this is easily my least favourite DT album lyrically with all of the characters talking.
I'm glad they did something different, because it's what I wanted them to do, and with that risk some parts paid off greatly, while just as many parts weren't successful. I couldn't care less about what percentage of ballads it has, or metal, or prog, or whatever checklist you want to go by, if it's good music, I'll like it for what it is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2016, 08:56:39 AM: Kade, you should like The Walking Shadow. Has a King Diamond feel to it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 07, 2016, 02:02:51 PM: Paul, I like your analogy of the Elder compared to TA, but could you imagine if The Elder was a double disc and about an hour and a half longer. That would be a grind to get through.

I'm cool with DT doing something different, but this album needed to be condensed into one cd. It just drags and with so many tracks, it just appears too much.

I know there is some good stuff on it, but not enough for me to listen often.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2016, 02:31:27 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 07, 2016, 05:05:25 AM
And they really should have hired a female lead to play the part of Faythe. They could've brought her (whoever) on tour with them too. Hell, if Kamelot can do it, DT sure as shit can.

I disagree. They have a great vocalist. They have neglected his talents for a long time. Finally they have an album where they stretch him out.
On O:M, it's a few lines in one song. It's not really relevant here.

I mean if they need a thrash riff, should they bring in Skolnik. Hetfield? Schaffer?

I've been thinking about The Elder comparison. Not sure if I agree. Or disagree. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 07, 2016, 02:36:20 PM: I think the Elder comparison is fair, as is Nostradamus. Just an album that surprises the fanbase and has fans that absolutely love it and some that don't. I think TA falls into this category. Checking out the DT side, most people are going ape shit over it.

I'm glad people are enjoying it, but I am quite flabbergasted with this release. I will try it again at some point though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 07, 2016, 02:41:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2016, 02:31:27 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on February 07, 2016, 05:05:25 AM
And they really should have hired a female lead to play the part of Faythe. They could've brought her (whoever) on tour with them too. Hell, if Kamelot can do it, DT sure as shit can.

I disagree. They have a great vocalist. They have neglected his talents for a long time. Finally they have an album where they stretch him out.
On O:M, it's a few lines in one song. It's not really relevant here.

I mean if they need a thrash riff, should they bring in Skolnik. Hetfield? Schaffer?

I've been thinking about The Elder comparison. Not sure if I agree. Or disagree. ;D

It's a really good album. Just not a good KISS album.

I hated Nostradamus, after a couple of decent JP albums, so maybe the point is valid.
I'm certainly not trying to convert you, I really can see why some won't like it. I was worried pre release, I'll admit. It's been on near constant rotation in the car though. I really didn't expect it to be a car album.
The lyrics don't bother me at all. I long ago gave up caring as most of the music I was listening to was written by bands with English as a second language (and I don't mean Americans :biggrin:)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2016, 03:05:56 PM: News flash: I have never heard a single note of Nostradamus.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2016, 07:17:54 PM: I thought Kade was going to ask me what I was smoking and say that The Astonishing is fantastic :lol

I think I am 80% of the way with the new PC but this fucking Windows 10 is a glorified beta at best. I would've hoped that after being out there for a while (and with relatively positive reviews) that it would've been a smooth process. But no..........everything from the initial updates to the time.........yes, the time .......has been a royal pain in the ass. And of course they make it a bitch for you to use old software that was half decent in an effort to push you towards their half finished mail/browser apps.

And now the big one. I have been stubbornly holding on to iTunes 10 for years because it was the last version to be half decent , but like with Windows 7 I thought I had to finally give in and do the upgrade before they forced me to and here we go,............so far it seems it has fucked up the conversion of my library which seems to have lost (at best) all my playlists (incl,. roulette preps for you dudes) and all my song ratings. I am hoping I can use my backup software to roll back the library files. Fingers crossed.

:censored
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2016, 07:22:25 PM: I thought this was where the cool guys hung out. When did this turn into the dork thread? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 07, 2016, 08:18:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2016, 07:22:25 PM
I thought this was where the cool guys hung out. When did this turn into the dork thread? ;D

It's a prog forum. Everyone's a dork. Some are just better at hiding it than others. :lol

And bl5150, that's what you get for using iTunes. :P The few times I've had to use iTunes on other machines, I've never known what the hell it was trying to do, such a vague and terrible app.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on February 07, 2016, 08:31:29 PM: That sucks pretty hard, I imagine those roulette playlists would have been quite extensive by now.

I would have saved them as .m3u files as a backup before doing anything else.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2016, 08:43:25 PM: I'm the guy who is well known around here as knowing SFA about computers.............in the northern hemisphere it's obviously Tim. And I have never heard of m3u ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 07, 2016, 08:48:27 PM: m3u is a universal playlist file format. I have all of my playlists backed up in both m3u and in fpl format (foobar's internal playlist format). Apple don't like to follow standards though. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on February 07, 2016, 08:50:11 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 05, 2016, 04:21:03 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 05, 2016, 03:13:52 PM
I like what I hear from Resurrection Kings; same kind of vibe as Voodoo Circle

Why Jake didn't keep Chas West is strange. Great voice on this guy.

Hmm...I wasn't that impressed with the songs I heard, but I should check it out.

Speaking of Jake, I'm looking for the Badlands debut CD, seems impossible to find for reasonable price.
Even the re-issue seems to be OOP now.
Had it many years ago, lost it some how.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on February 07, 2016, 09:05:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 07, 2016, 08:43:25 PM
I'm the guy who is well known around here as knowing SFA about computers.............in the northern hemisphere it's obviously Tim. And I have never heard of m3u ;D
I thought you might know what m3u files are. Back in the day you couldn't save playlists any other way than as files, if I recall.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2016, 09:14:59 PM: back in the day I didn't do digital media. I really only made the decision to rip all my CDs and "go digital" a few years ago. And even then it's more about not having to find CDs.........running it all at a touch of a button through the stereo/PC speakers without CDs. And all my old stores closed down :) I have never used iPods/phones for music so I am still relatively prehistoric :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 07, 2016, 10:17:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2016, 03:05:56 PM
News flash: I have never heard a single note of Nostradamus.

You aren't a big fan to begin with; this album will not win you over!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on February 07, 2016, 11:09:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 07, 2016, 09:14:59 PM
back in the day I didn't do digital media. I really only made the decision to rip all my CDs and "go digital" a few years ago.
I guess that's understandable then. :biggrin: Back in the late 90's when I got started with digital music the concept of a media library didn't exist, so if you wanted to just double-click something to play an album, or all of the songs of a band, you had to have an m3u playlist to do it. So I had a folder full of them.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 08, 2016, 03:41:02 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2016, 07:22:25 PM
I thought this was where the cool guys hung out. When did this turn into the dork thread? ;D

lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2016, 04:50:20 AM: I'm listening to disc 1 without the lyrics like how I would listen to all my music to see if something pricks my ears. Perhaps not reading along with book might make it a better listen.

As Chad stated, some different voices I think would have really helped and would have also would have been able to make the lyrics less self explanatory which I also found a little tedious.

Will ventue into disc 2 in the coming days.

Agree with Jason that this does have a Nostradamus vibe. That album I really appreciated a bit over time, so maybe this is the same. There's no saving the story though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 08, 2016, 12:47:50 PM: I agree about the different voices too.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:17:58 PM: Nah, I'm happy enough with James doing the lot. I love his voice, always have.
If they'd used different voices it would've had to have been done under a different name than DT.

Maybe it should have been a pe truck / Rudess project.
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Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2016, 01:30:28 PM: I don't understand the talk of James altering his voice dependant of the character. Sounds the same to me.
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Post by: Prog Snob on February 08, 2016, 01:31:52 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Nah, I'm happy enough with James doing the lot. I love his voice, always have.
If they'd used different voices it would've had to have been done under a different name than DT.

Maybe it should have been a pe truck / Rudess project.

Were you a fan of the Winter Rose songs?
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Post by: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:40:15 PM: Quote from: Prog Snob on February 08, 2016, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Nah, I'm happy enough with James doing the lot. I love his voice, always have.
If they'd used different voices it would've had to have been done under a different name than DT.

Maybe it should have been a pe truck / Rudess project.

Were you a fan of the Winter Rose songs?

I should be, it's my kind of stuff but it just never did it for me.
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Post by: Prog Snob on February 08, 2016, 01:43:23 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Prog Snob on February 08, 2016, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Nah, I'm happy enough with James doing the lot. I love his voice, always have.
If they'd used different voices it would've had to have been done under a different name than DT.

Maybe it should have been a pe truck / Rudess project.

Were you a fan of the Winter Rose songs?

I should be, it's my kind of stuff but it just never did it for me.

Agreed. Something was just missing from those songs. James' voice was killer on one of the bootlegs I have from them though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 08, 2016, 01:45:39 PM: I could never fully get into Winter Rose either.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 08, 2016, 01:52:28 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 08, 2016, 01:30:28 PM
I don't understand the talk of James altering his voice dependant of the character. Sounds the same to me.

If I listen hard enough, I do hear some very subtle changes. Faythe is soft and smooth; Nafaryus is a little gargly; Gabriel is a smooth too, but a little more masculine.

I have no idea how he's going to pull this off live.
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Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2016, 01:53:56 PM: I guess. And yeah, it's going to be a challenge live indeed.
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Post by: TAC on February 08, 2016, 01:57:31 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 08, 2016, 01:52:28 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 08, 2016, 01:30:28 PM
I don't understand the talk of James altering his voice dependant of the character. Sounds the same to me.

If I listen hard enough, I do hear some very subtle changes. Faythe is soft and smooth; Nafaryus is a little gargly; Gabriel is a smooth too, but a little more masculine.

I have no idea how he's going to pull this off live.

I think the whole line of promo that James changed his voice for each character was overrated. There are some subtle changes at times, but it's a bit inconsistent at times. Faythe is soft and smooth, but not in the last song. Nafaryus is gargly on Savior In The Square, but not in Lord Nefaryus, where he sounds like Freddie Mercury.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 08, 2016, 02:15:08 PM: :iagree:
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Post by: TAC on February 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM: And BTW, though Freddie Mercury's voice is a curious choice for Lord Nefaryus, that song kicks all kinds of ass. Easily one of my favorites. The Queen vibe is incredible.

Fixed! Thanks White Out Man! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on February 08, 2016, 03:07:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM
that song kinds all kinds of ass.

Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Maybe it should have been a pe truck / Rudess project.

I am convinced that king is doing most of the voices in here at the moment ;D
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Post by: TAC on February 08, 2016, 03:12:18 PM: Hi, my name is Brent.

(https://fotos.fotoflexer.com/a616289d4cd76fdc1b82d6e371452b13.jpg)

;D
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Post by: bl5150 on February 08, 2016, 03:17:27 PM: Haha - this is the dork thread remember :lol I'll make sure to throw in some Kinginese here and there to keep things exciting.

I am very much out of the loop at the moment with news etc.......but looking at some of the recent Blabbermouth stories re Megadeth you would have to wonder about the band dynamics :lol

Ellefson: I am Dave's right hand man
Dave: No , Kiko is.
Ellefson : I was a founding member
Dave: No he wasn't

etc...
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Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2016, 03:47:05 PM: I'd take Kiko over Dave anyway as my 2IC, nothing wrong here haha.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 08, 2016, 09:25:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2016, 01:57:31 PM
I think the whole line of promo that James changed his voice for each character was overrated. There are some subtle changes at times, but it's a bit inconsistent at times. Faythe is soft and smooth, but not in the last song. Nafaryus is gargly on Savior In The Square, but not in Lord Nefaryus, where he sounds like Freddie Mercury.

Agreed. At times it's obvious, but more often than not, there's no change, especially between Gabriel/Ahrys/Narrator/whatever.
Doesn't bother me at all, but they talked it up to be bigger than it was.
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Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2016, 09:28:35 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 08, 2016, 09:25:51 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2016, 01:57:31 PM
I think the whole line of promo that James changed his voice for each character was overrated. There are some subtle changes at times, but it's a bit inconsistent at times. Faythe is soft and smooth, but not in the last song. Nafaryus is gargly on Savior In The Square, but not in Lord Nefaryus, where he sounds like Freddie Mercury.

Agreed. At times it's obvious, but more often than not, there's no change, especially between Gabriel/Ahrys/Narrator/whatever.
Doesn't bother me at all, but they talked it up to be bigger than it was.

Yeah, that's the only reason I mentioned it.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2016, 04:05:32 AM: Ahhhhhhhhhhhh-that's better. Listening to some music in here for the first time in almost a week. Final dork update - like with many of the Windows 10/iTunes bugs I managed to find at least a partial solution in some obscure little corner of the internet (not from Microsoft or Apple themselves of course). We're talking huge numbers - so I can't be sure - but I believe I have managed to recover at least the majority of my ratings/files and playlists. And also the missing 20,000 songs that had disappeared from the library (not from my hard drive). The only area that seems lost for good is all the work I put into the artwork for the many albums that don't register with Gracenote. Ah well...........could've been much worse.

A bit more work to do tonight and then back to something like normality tomorrow I hope. Glad to have my music back :heart
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Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 04:16:40 AM: Cool shit man. :tup
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 09, 2016, 05:21:02 AM: Good to hear that your music is back.

Life without music is like beer without alcohol, you can go through it, but where is the fun? ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2016, 01:04:37 PM: Rock n Roll!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 09, 2016, 10:28:42 PM: I've almost finished my first listen of the Last in Line album. I was hoping the rest of the album would be more distinctive than the singles, but if anything the rest of the album was even more bland. I couldn't recall a single melody or chorus from the entire album if I tried, it just blurred together. It's the kind of album where it finishes and you think "was that really a whole album? I could swear I only heard 2 or 3 songs".

The performances were good, the production was good, the vocalist was good, but the songwriting is just nothing, almost an afterthought to the album. Nothing stood out as actually bad, but that's because nothing stood out at all.

I've thought albums were average on first listen, but then grown to like them on subsequent listens, but I'm just not feeling the potential for that here. There was little variety, and the melodies were all the same.
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Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 10:30:29 PM: That's disappointing, and a wasted opportunity.

Did you check the Resurrection Kings Blob?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 09, 2016, 10:32:17 PM: Yeah, I've been listening to that one a bit over the past week or so. It's not mindblowing, but it's overall quite enjoyable, and I'll probably get more listens out of it. I don't see it being an album I'll still be listening to into the future though.

I also got Revolution Saints the other day too. Are we confused again yet? :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 10:39:25 PM: I'll give that one a spin, but not expecting too much from that.

I actually got the Revolution Saints in the car today. It's the one with Castonovo, Blades and Aldrich. Really good, some great rockers on there but maybe one too many ballads.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 09, 2016, 10:44:02 PM: I don't expect you'll get much from Resurrection Kings.

I've only given Revolution Saints one quick spin yet, pretty positive so far. I think I skipped the ballads, because Frontiers albums have given me more than my fill of ballads, it's the rockers that make or break these albums for me.
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Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2016, 10:49:10 PM: Fair enough, and the rockers are really good.

Back on My Trail
Locked Out of Paradise
Strangers to This Life
Better World

Amazing songs right here. Great vibe in all of them too. The Eclipse cover is cool enough, but not needed, but still it's a rocker that fills out the back end of the album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 10, 2016, 03:12:05 AM: Just combine those two bands into Resurrection Saints and avoid confusion lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2016, 03:18:11 AM: Reverection Kaints.
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 04:14:51 AM: Well, it could work, Revolution Saints need a new singer/drummer.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2016, 04:17:23 AM: I never expect a second album from any of these put together Frontiers projects anyway. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 04:19:17 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2016, 04:17:23 AM
I never expect a second album from any of these put together Frontiers projects anyway. :lol

No me either, but with Castronovo, it's definitely out of the question now for these guys. :lol

I think you'd be surprised at how many have actually released more than one album. Sure most over the last couple of years are obviously a one off novelty project but some of them seem to have a little bit of lasting power.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2016, 04:28:55 AM: I know that many have released more than one, I just assume they're a one-off unless I hear more about it. A lot of these albums are side projects or one of many projects, basically the musical equivalent of throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. Not that I have a problem with that, but we end up with a lot of stuff to wade through to find the winners.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2016, 04:29:23 AM: For me the Resurrection Kings is definitely stronger. Plenty of reviews around lauding Viv's return to his metal days but I dunno what they're smoking - for the most part it's a plodding bluesy rock album. Even on the songs that threaten to rock out , they manage to plod it out in the mid section (Already Dead). The Sickness isn't bad I suppose but it's all rather pedestrian.

I get the feeling that Viv is trying to rock but it's just not there any more. After all those years playing second fiddle to Phil Collen he has probably just forgotten.

I rated Resurrection Kings 88% , Last In Line 70%
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 04:32:17 AM: I'll definitely check the Resurrection Kings then.

A song from this Lords of Black project thing. Pretty shit really. Probably won't bother, nothing new here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avB8Hpmcqdw
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 10, 2016, 08:18:05 AM: Yeah meh
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Post by: Lowdz on February 10, 2016, 12:46:01 PM: I liked the Resurrection Kings. Revolution Saints didn't grab me at all. It was nice enough but very bland.

Have now listened to the Nordic Union and enjoyed it far more than Brent did. That could be because I haven't overdosed on the Martensson stuff so the repetition wasn't as obvious.

I thought the Last in Line was ok. Nothing special and Brent is right, it doesn't rock much.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2016, 01:06:15 PM: Still need to listen to Resurrection Kings (I think). I did enjoy the Revolution Saints - surprised you didn't Paul.

Last in Line - not interested at all.

Nordic Union - I'm with Paul... I don't know enough about Martenssen's back-catalogue.
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Post by: TAC on February 10, 2016, 01:24:30 PM: I don't have the time or interest to give any of those albums a listen.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 10, 2016, 04:05:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 10, 2016, 01:24:30 PM
I don't have the time or interest to give any of those albums a listen.

I would say you could probably live without hearing any of them. None of them are in any way essential listening.

Some of them are available on metalstreaming.net if you change your mind.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2016, 07:51:01 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 10, 2016, 01:06:15 PM

Nordic Union - I'm with Paul... I don't know enough about Martenssen's back-catalogue.

Even aside from any Martensson replays I thought there were zero stand out songs and half of them were typical Frontiers cookies. I seem to be alone on this one as it's getting great reviews all round pretty much.
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 10:41:55 PM: I still gotta listen to Nordic Union, but I'm in no rush.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2016, 10:47:07 PM: I can't remember if I listened to the album or just samples, but it didn't interest me.
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 10:48:30 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2016, 10:47:07 PM
I can't remember if I listened to the album or just samples, but it didn't interest me.

I think you would find it pretty bland and stale. If I remember rightly, you didn't really dig Eclipse, this is pretty much the same thing. Saying that without even hearing it. :lol
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Post by: gazinwales on February 10, 2016, 11:39:43 PM: I had never heard a single note of Martensson's music until Nordic Union.
Pretty impressive though.
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Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 04:31:47 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on February 10, 2016, 11:39:43 PM
I had never heard a single note of Martensson's music until Nordic Union.
Pretty impressive though.

The Toby Hitchcock album is where it's at.

Eclipse are pretty damn solid too, oh and the first W.E.T. cd, a classic, but avoid the follow up.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2016, 04:34:46 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 04:31:47 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on February 10, 2016, 11:39:43 PM
I had never heard a single note of Martensson's music until Nordic Union.
Pretty impressive though.

The Toby Hitchcock album is where it's at.

I tend to agree - that Hitchcock album has more variety/thought in it than most of his others put together. I can understand why people might like Nordic Union but I felt like I was listening to formulaic songs written in half an hour by a guy with too much stuff on the go..........and I love Ronnie's voice.
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Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 04:37:48 AM: I can put that Toby Hitchcock album on still to this day and enjoy every song as much as I did back then. It's an absolute fucking classic and would possibly even make my top 50 these days.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 11, 2016, 04:42:05 AM: I had a Toby Hitchcock album, but I deleted it when I was clearing out space. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 04:45:57 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 11, 2016, 04:42:05 AM
I had a Toby Hitchcock album, but I deleted it when I was clearing out space. :lol

(https://rs1058.pbsrc.com/albums/t407/KezzerC/NotAmused.gif~c200)
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Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 04:59:05 AM: New Thunderstone;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pYWZw7Ecl4

Generic but really solid IMO.
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Post by: Bolsters on February 11, 2016, 05:05:18 AM: Better than Fire and Ice, but like that song it's pretty run-of-the-mill stuff, I'm not getting too excited about this album so far unfortunately.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 11, 2016, 10:48:28 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 10:48:30 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2016, 10:47:07 PM
I can't remember if I listened to the album or just samples, but it didn't interest me.

I think you would find it pretty bland and stale. If I remember rightly, you didn't really dig Eclipse, this is pretty much the same thing. Saying that without even hearing it. :lol

The last Eclipse was awesome. NU isn't anywhere near it. I like Ronnies voice on this stuff though. Stops it from being too pink n fluffy
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Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2016, 02:51:15 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 11, 2016, 10:48:28 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 10, 2016, 10:48:30 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2016, 10:47:07 PM
I can't remember if I listened to the album or just samples, but it didn't interest me.

I think you would find it pretty bland and stale. If I remember rightly, you didn't really dig Eclipse, this is pretty much the same thing. Saying that without even hearing it. :lol

The last Eclipse was awesome. NU isn't anywhere near it. I like Ronnies voice on this stuff though. Stops it from being too pink n fluffy

Wow, that doesn't bode well. Thinking though, yeah I liked the Eclipse quite a lot actually. It wasn't quite as solid as Bleed and Scream, but has some killer tracks.

Fucking annoying to read that they are releasing another version with 2cd's full of bonus tracks next month. >:(

CD1
“I Don't Wanna Say I'm Sorry”
“Stand On Your Feet”
“Runaways” (Album Version)*
“The Storm”
“Blood Enemies”
“Wide Open”
“Live Like I'm Dying”
“Breakdown”
“Love Bites”
“Caught Up In The Rush”
“One Life - My Life”
“All Died Young”

* Melodifestivalen song / bonus track added to the regular edition

CD2
“I Don't Wanna Say I'm Sorry” (Live)
“Stand On Your Feet” (Live)
“Wake Me Up” (Live)
“The Storm” (Live)
“Battlegrounds” (Live)
“Breakdown” (Live)
“Wide Open” (Live)
“Blood Enemies” (Live)
“Ain't Dead Yet” (Live)
“Bleed & Scream” (Live)
“Breaking My Heart Again” (Live)
“Come Hell Or High Water” (Bonus Track) §
“Into The Fire” (Bonus Track) §
“The Storm” (Acoustic)**
“I Don't Wanna Say I'm Sorry” (Acoustic)**
“Battlegrounds” (Acoustic)**

I'll probably have to buy this. Chock full of stuff.
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2016, 04:23:06 AM: Jesus, The Astonishing debuted at number 10 in Australia.
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Post by: Evermind on February 12, 2016, 07:07:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 12, 2016, 04:23:06 AM
Jesus, The Astonishing debuted at number 10 in Australia.

Don't think it will make the charts in Russia, but it's doing fairly well. I visited the record store last weekend and they said they sold out the first stock, so they had to order in another one. When I went and bought it today they only had two copies left.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 12, 2016, 08:06:27 AM: In Germany it entered the charts at #5, that's not that bad considering that the average german has no real taste in music :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 02:30:06 PM: So stupid me having faith that I would be able to find Primal and Avantasia instore last weekend. :facepalm:

Oh well, have ordered from Utopia in Sydney so there may be a chance I'll get them by the weekend, if not early next week. I did actually order the Nordic Union also as it was just $20, and I think I'll still enjoy it somewhat.

Have had a couple of listens to a few more Primal Fear songs anyway. Checked the Sky is Burning which is an incredible ballad and the epic which is incredible. Yes, it's December Part 2 but it's fabulous, I love it. Looking forward to hearing the rest of the album. Man I put myself through such agony and anticipation. :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2016, 02:32:40 PM: Can't you just order them online and have them delivered on the release day?
Amazon actually delivered my DT and Avantasia CDs a day before the release date!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2016, 02:36:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2016, 02:32:40 PM
Can't you just order them online and have them delivered on the release day?
Amazon actually delivered my DT and Avantasia CDs a day before the release date!

Dont get Kade started lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 02:36:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2016, 02:32:40 PM
Can't you just order them online and have them delivered on the release day?
Amazon actually delivered my DT and Avantasia CDs a day before the release date!

Seriously?

I don't know if that would work quite as quick for me in Australia from Amazon, but sounds too good to be true. Amazon normally take up to 2 weeks for me.

I guess I just like the old school thing of going out and being able to buy it at the store. But it's becoming more and more of a rare thing which is disappointing.
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 02:36:57 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 15, 2016, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2016, 02:32:40 PM
Can't you just order them online and have them delivered on the release day?
Amazon actually delivered my DT and Avantasia CDs a day before the release date!

Dont get Kade started lol

:lol

Jason knows how I work.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2016, 02:37:46 PM: I'm assuming the new Anthrax will be available at HMV on the 26th. I will be quite surprised if it isn't
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 02:38:48 PM: More mainstream bands like Anthrax, DT, Slayer, Maiden etc. always seem to be a safe bet.
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2016, 02:42:18 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 02:36:32 PM

I guess I just like the old school thing of going out and being able to buy it at the store. But it's becoming more and more of a rare thing which is disappointing.

I totally get that. Nothing like going to the store and thumbing through the CD bins. Problem is, none of the music I seem to want is even in the stores anymore.

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 15, 2016, 02:37:46 PM
I'm assuming the new Anthrax will be available at HMV on the 26th. I will be quite surprised if it isn't

Already have that, Metal Church, and Redemption on preorder.

Still on the fence on Primal Fear and Headspace. Will likely get the Dynazty though.
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 02:48:29 PM: I forgot about the Dynazty, will be getting that, along with Redemption and probably Headspace. I might try and preorder them Tim and see when I receive them.

Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2016, 02:42:18 PM
Problem is, none of the music I seem to want is even in the stores anymore.

That exactly the problem indeed. :tdwn
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 02:51:48 PM: Just a quick random thought with Primal Fear's We Walk Without Fear. Obviously Magnus handles most of the songwriting now, you can tell and most of the rhythm and guitar melodies. This song was obviously written mainly by him and is all his work. The solos however are Tom/Alex/Tom/Alex. I just find this interseting that he hands the solos spots to his partners without a shred from him, besides the quick run earlier in the instrumental section. Obviously for a live setting, but I find it quite noble of him. The Sky is Burning is Tom on leads too.

Anyway, carry on. :biggrin:

Bah, Dynazty is not out until April. :tdwn
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2016, 02:53:03 PM: I buy exclusively from Amazon now. New releases get here the day of. I also buy mp3 albums from bands that I don't need actual CDs, especially as it's usually a bit cheaper.
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 03:31:27 PM: Buying mp3's from Amazon is unavailable in Aus.
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2016, 03:39:30 PM: I wonder why.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 15, 2016, 03:54:24 PM: It's about 30 miles to my nearest HMV. Nothing of note any nearer.
My town doesn't have a cd shop at all now.
I really miss my Monday morning trips to 'ear 'ere records to see what they'd got in that day (vinyl of course back then!) and buying whatever took my fancy. The bloke who ran it would usually give me a shout if there was something he thought id like and he was rarely wrong.

Had a similar service from the guys at Shades in London and Loud 1 a few years later, but that was mail order and didn't have that immediacy of taking the stuff home, reading the liner notes on the bus home... Ah the memories.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2016, 04:00:49 PM: There's an Amazon distribution warehouse about 6km's down the road from me. Even when I order free/standard 2-day shipping, shit shows up the next day.

I'll bet they'd ship pre-orders a few days early to Oz too, aiming to have things arrive on release date.
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2016, 04:04:53 PM: I'm surprised they don't already have distribution down there.
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Post by: Prog Snob on February 15, 2016, 07:27:50 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 15, 2016, 04:00:49 PM
There's an Amazon distribution warehouse about 6km's down the road from me. Even when I order free/standard 2-day shipping, shit shows up the next day.

I'll bet they'd ship pre-orders a few days early to Oz too, aiming to have things arrive on release date.

That's just under 4 miles for the US people.

As far as the shipping, I get that one day turnover with New Egg a lot. They have a warehouse in New Jersey so sometimes if I order first thing in the morning, it's on my doorstep the next afternoon.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2016, 07:32:33 PM: As far as Amazon and Australia goes I think it's just another example of this geo-blocking (geographical licensed product)................so we're stuck paying double what most of the world pays for iTunes (because they can) and so it's often cheaper/same to buy a CD here.

I tend to go digital anyway these days as there's no "metal stores" here now and I don't want to get into a punch up with Kade over the last copy of Primal Fear in JB :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2016, 08:28:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2016, 07:32:33 PM
As far as Amazon and Australia goes I think it's just another example of this geo-blocking (geographical licensed product)................so we're stuck paying double what most of the world pays for iTunes (because they can) and so it's often cheaper/same to buy a CD here.

I tend to go digital anyway these days as there's no "metal stores" here now and I don't want to get into a punch up with Kade over the last copy of Primal Fear in JB :lol

Damn right! I'll fight you for it haha.

I think Utopia is probably the only good metal/hard rock store left in Australia it seems. In Brisbane we use to have Skinny's which was sort of the same, but a bit less range, but I got everything there. I was devastated when it closed down.

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 15, 2016, 04:00:49 PM
I'll bet they'd ship pre-orders a few days early to Oz too, aiming to have things arrive on release date.

You're probably right, I've just never tried it. Might do it with Redemption and Headspace.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 16, 2016, 12:58:56 AM: Preorders on Amazon Germany are delivered on release day, sometimes even a day earlier. Other orders within 1-2 days, if they are available, which most cds are.

For physical products I go to a shop in Cologne called Saturn. They pride themselves with the world's largest cd collection and while I don't know if that is true, they really have a large selection. Unless you're looking for some really obscure stuff you probably find it there, mostly at reasonable prices.

And the local record store (a smaller subsidiary from above mentioned Saturn) has the more mainstream stuff on release day. But they are not that good on back catalogues.

And I tend to get more and more music in digital form, mostly as mp3 from amazon.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2016, 01:35:55 AM: It's a shame that music stores are such a rare site nowadays
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Post by: gazinwales on February 16, 2016, 02:04:47 AM: Amazon UK usually ship the new releases the day before release to Australia.
It used to be about a week, but past 6 months it's been taking 2 weeks plus to get here.

Unlike a certain German label who ship after the release date, who I will never order from again.
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Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2016, 04:22:42 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on February 16, 2016, 02:04:47 AM
Amazon UK usually ship the new releases the day before release to Australia.
It used to be about a week, but past 6 months it's been taking 2 weeks plus to get here.

Unlike a certain German label who ship after the release date, who I will never order from again.

What's the german one?
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Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2016, 04:15:47 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/steve-vai-zakk-wylde-yngwie-malmsteen-nuno-bettencourt-to-join-forces-for-generation-axe-tour/

Wow.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 17, 2016, 04:40:15 AM: Too many notes on one stage.
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Post by: Bolsters on February 17, 2016, 04:42:35 AM: So it's basically G3, except it's G5 now? ???
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 17, 2016, 05:21:01 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 17, 2016, 04:40:15 AM
Too many notes on one stage.

That was my first thought too. Doesn't really get me excited, and it's US only so far.

If Nuno has time to spare he should complete that Extreme album that's supposedly in the making for some time now.

And Yngwie? I fear that he will shred even more than normal when paired against other guitarists.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2016, 05:27:55 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on February 17, 2016, 05:21:01 AM

If Nuno has time to spare he should complete that Extreme album that's supposedly in the making for some time now.

And Yngwie? I fear that he will shred even more than normal when paired against other guitarists.

Agreed on both counts. I'm not sure I fancy Nuno as an instrumental artist but happy to be proven wrong......keen to hear some new Extreme though. That Boston DVD is a corker.

Yngwie was sorta funny in G3.............he would often move way off to the side of the stage and try and "one up" the other guys. Typical stuff.

And Zakk is way past his best from what I have seen in recent years - and not enough variety in his playing to be in an instrumental group IMO. And I was a huge fan of his first few Ozzy albums.

Vai will carry this I reckon.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2016, 05:39:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2016, 05:27:55 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on February 17, 2016, 05:21:01 AM

If Nuno has time to spare he should complete that Extreme album that's supposedly in the making for some time now.

And Yngwie? I fear that he will shred even more than normal when paired against other guitarists.

Agreed on both counts. I'm not sure I fancy Nuno as an instrumental artist but happy to be proven wrong......keen to hear some new Extreme though. That Boston DVD is a corker.

Yngwie was sorta funny in G3.............he would often move way off to the side of the stage and try and "one up" the other guys. Typical stuff.

And Zakk is way past his best from what I have seen in recent years - and not enough variety in his playing to be in an instrumental group IMO. And I was a huge fan of his first few Ozzy albums.

Vai will carry this I reckon.

Yeah Nuno's the interesting one here. Not much instrumental work to fall back on, though midnight express was the best track on WFTP. Maybe he'll just do Extreme songs and sing them himself.

I have no interest in Yngwie these days. Disappeared up his own huge arse years ago. Such a shame.

ZW has never interested me at all. Fast pentagon ice with too many pinch harmonics? No thanks.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 17, 2016, 05:41:18 AM: Not interested in any of them at all these days. Zakk wrote the best music of them imo, but even he just falls back on the same stuff these days.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2016, 05:43:16 AM: Now Paul..........the way you're going we're going to have to add Lowdzian to our list of languages around here.

So Zakk did ice at the Pentagon? :rollin
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 17, 2016, 05:46:54 AM: translation - pentatonic licks.

I'm learning a new language. Now that I'm fluent in kinginese, I'm branching out.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 17, 2016, 06:54:05 AM: I'm not sure if this is all instrumental. I could imagine Nuno and Zakk singing some of their songs and Nuno doesn't have to sing Extreme stuff, he's got a lot of other material (Nuno, Mourning Widows, Population 1, Drama Gods) where he was the lead singer. Although those tunes are probably not that well known outside his fanbase.

And no, Midnight Express wasn't the best track on punchline, in fact I thought that, apart from the "chorus", it was one of the weaker instrumental tracks around.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2016, 01:49:21 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 17, 2016, 05:46:54 AM
translation - pentatonic licks.

I'm learning a new language. Now that I'm fluent in kinginese, I'm branching out.

Good to know I have someone I can communicate with. Obviously I need to proof read everything I type into this expensive piece of garbage.

And Kwyjibo, I would rather listen to Yngwie shred away than listen to any of Nuno's solo shit. And I even bought some of it. Made WFTP sound like a great album. :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2016, 09:46:58 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2016, 05:27:55 AM
Vai will carry this I reckon.

Yes.
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Post by: gazinwales on February 17, 2016, 11:47:57 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2016, 04:22:42 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on February 16, 2016, 02:04:47 AM
Amazon UK usually ship the new releases the day before release to Australia.
It used to be about a week, but past 6 months it's been taking 2 weeks plus to get here.

Unlike a certain German label who ship after the release date, who I will never order from again.

What's the german one?

A-FM Records, bloody useless, and Nuclear Blast don't often send before the release date either.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 18, 2016, 05:39:24 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 17, 2016, 01:49:21 PM
And Kwyjibo, I would rather listen to Yngwie shred away than listen to any of Nuno's solo shit. And I even bought some of it. Made WFTP sound like a great album. :biggrin:

OK, different tastes I guess. I sometimes rank Punchline as the best Extreme album and I really like the Mourning Widows stuff. The rest of Nuno's output is at least decent.
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Post by: Evermind on February 18, 2016, 08:59:48 AM: Yeah, Nuclear Blast shipped my Avantasia order a day or two after release date. But it arrived really quickly (I think seven or eight days) so I can live with that.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2016, 09:02:19 AM: On my second listen of Inglorious. So far I'd say it's definitely a solid hard rock album, and I enjoyed it all from start to finish, some more than others of course. It meets my expectations based on the singles. That singer busts out some cool high spots, and the sound of everything is great. It's heavier in moments than I was expecting, but had plenty of variety.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 18, 2016, 03:11:28 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2016, 09:02:19 AM
On my second listen of Inglorious. So far I'd say it's definitely a solid hard rock album, and I enjoyed it all from start to finish, some more than others of course. It meets my expectations based on the singles. That singer busts out some cool high spots, and the sound of everything is great. It's heavier in moments than I was expecting, but had plenty of variety.

Wasn't too impressed with the last single but the first one was good. Good to finally see it released. I've been Facebook friends with these guys since they got together and it seems like years ago.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2016, 03:13:55 PM: Yeah, I'm not digging the songs I've heard from Inglorious.

Quote from: gazinwales on February 17, 2016, 11:47:57 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2016, 04:22:42 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on February 16, 2016, 02:04:47 AM
Amazon UK usually ship the new releases the day before release to Australia.
It used to be about a week, but past 6 months it's been taking 2 weeks plus to get here.

Unlike a certain German label who ship after the release date, who I will never order from again.

What's the german one?

A-FM Records, bloody useless, and Nuclear Blast don't often send before the release date either.

I've never tried buying directly from the record label.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2016, 05:23:08 PM: (https://www.jbhifi.com.au/FileLibrary/ProductResources/Images/163185-L-LO.jpg)

Anyone know anything about this. Saw it instore last week and the descriptions ounds interesting. I know nothing about them and haven't heard a thing from them. The sticker on the front said it's Biff Byford's fav band or something.

Hard rockers C.O.P UK are set to drop their third full-length, 'No Place For Heaven,' and it is an absolute cracker!

Led by the soaring leathery voice of Dale Radcliffe, the stadium rockers pound through 11 numbers that draw parallels to AOR groups Journey and Gotthard, as well Euro-Power Metal bands Helloween and Rage.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 18, 2016, 05:38:38 PM: I can't imagine Biff would lead you in the wrong direction!
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Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2016, 05:44:02 PM: Pretty sure I checked them out - I don't have it , so assuming I wasn't too fussed about them.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2016, 05:52:18 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 18, 2016, 05:38:38 PM
I can't imagine Biff would lead you in the wrong direction!

That's kinda what I was thinking.

Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2016, 05:44:02 PM
Pretty sure I checked them out - I don't have it , so assuming I wasn't too fussed about them.

Fair enough mate.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2016, 09:22:05 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 18, 2016, 03:11:28 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2016, 09:02:19 AM
On my second listen of Inglorious. So far I'd say it's definitely a solid hard rock album, and I enjoyed it all from start to finish, some more than others of course. It meets my expectations based on the singles. That singer busts out some cool high spots, and the sound of everything is great. It's heavier in moments than I was expecting, but had plenty of variety.

Wasn't too impressed with the last single but the first one was good. Good to finally see it released. I've been Facebook friends with these guys since they got together and it seems like years ago.

I can't remember what one was the most recent single, but the first one was definitely my favourite of them anyway (Until I Die was first wasn't it?). There are also several heavier songs that aren't quite what I expected from Frontiers' advertising, in a good way.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2016, 09:31:48 PM: Hmm...maybe I should still give it a listen then.
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2016, 05:16:02 AM: Rulebreaker :metal

Fucking hell, Final Call is a bonus track? You gotta be fucking kidding me, it could easily be the best thing on here.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2016, 05:33:17 AM: Final Call is the one I referred to in my review as "bordering on thrash"............heavy stuff and yes - certainly one of the best few songs. All my favourite songs on it are the ones that aren't the usual formula. Nothing bad on it though.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 19, 2016, 03:14:47 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2016, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 18, 2016, 03:11:28 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2016, 09:02:19 AM
On my second listen of Inglorious. So far I'd say it's definitely a solid hard rock album, and I enjoyed it all from start to finish, some more than others of course. It meets my expectations based on the singles. That singer busts out some cool high spots, and the sound of everything is great. It's heavier in moments than I was expecting, but had plenty of variety.

Wasn't too impressed with the last single but the first one was good. Good to finally see it released. I've been Facebook friends with these guys since they got together and it seems like years ago.

I can't remember what one was the most recent single, but the first one was definitely my favourite of them anyway (Until I Die was first wasn't it?). There are also several heavier songs that aren't quite what I expected from Frontiers' advertising, in a good way.

Unaware. Was a bit modern rock for me on first listen. Just put the album on now so will get to it in a bit.
What a great voice. This guy is a talent.
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2016, 03:53:50 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 19, 2016, 05:33:17 AM
Final Call is the one I referred to in my review as "bordering on thrash"............heavy stuff and yes - certainly one of the best few songs. All my favourite songs on it are the ones that aren't the usual formula. Nothing bad on it though.

I wasn't expecting this to top DTB, cause I bloody love that album, yet I find Rulebreaker a bit of a different beast in a few ways, but really it could end up just as solid for me. There's nothing bad on here as you say, and it's just a band putting together 13 excellent songs pulling no punches, no excuses, not giving a fuck and just doing their fucking thing by writing great metal. Everything works and nothing feels unneccesary or out of place, great flow throughout. Magnus has really taken control of this band in a good way and they have really stepped it up with the past two albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 19, 2016, 05:45:04 PM: well said Wolf!
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2016, 05:45:34 PM: Thanks mate. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 19, 2016, 05:57:31 PM: The title track is extremely catchy!
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 19, 2016, 09:29:19 PM: I do give Rulebreaker a slight edge over DTB. Think I might have to listen to both back-to-back tomorrow and render a final judgment.
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Post by: TAC on February 20, 2016, 12:45:52 PM: OK, I just ordered the Amazon mp3 of Rulebreaker. Started with Final Call. :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on February 20, 2016, 12:51:47 PM: So, got through a full listen of the Inglorious last night and it was ok. Not great, but decent.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 20, 2016, 04:15:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 20, 2016, 12:45:52 PM
OK, I just ordered the Amazon mp3 of Rulebreaker. Started with Final Call. :metal

sweet!!
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Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2016, 03:17:22 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 19, 2016, 05:57:31 PM
The title track is extremely catchy!

It is, getting better each listen too.

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 19, 2016, 09:29:19 PM
I do give Rulebreaker a slight edge over DTB. Think I might have to listen to both back-to-back tomorrow and render a final judgment.

I don't think I could make a call for a while yet. Still don't see the new one taking over DTB, but it certainly has the potential to.

Quote from: TAC on February 20, 2016, 12:45:52 PM
OK, I just ordered the Amazon mp3 of Rulebreaker. Started with Final Call. :metal

Such an Evil Spell vibe on this song, love it.
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 04:30:08 AM: Fuck, new Malmsteen coming in April with Malmsteen doing all lead vox himself. :facepalm:
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 22, 2016, 04:41:42 AM: I actually don't mind Malmsteen's vocals, although I'm not sure I could listen to a whole album of it. I'll take it over Ripper Owens though.

*flame shield up*
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Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 04:47:42 AM: I was a huge Yngwie fan at one point but really haven't bothered much since the Vescera/Leven sort of era. I will save my money and spend it on some of Yngwie's favourite donuts.
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 04:49:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 04:47:42 AM
I was a huge Yngwie fan at one point but really haven't bothered much since the Vescera/Leven sort of era. I will save my money and spend it on some of Yngwie's favourite donuts.

isn't that any type of donut?

Quite liked the two Ripper albums myself, especially the first one was very good. The last album Malmsteen did was an absolute abomination.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 22, 2016, 04:41:42 AM
I actually don't mind Malmsteen's vocals, although I'm not sure I could listen to a whole album of it. I'll take it over Ripper Owens though.

*flame shield up*

I'm sure there will be at least half instrumentals. The last piece of shit I think only had 3 songs with vocals, Malmsteens vocals that is, it's terrible.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2016, 06:29:08 AM: I never listened to Spellbound. Are even the instrumentals sub par?

I wonder if it's gotten to the point that nobody wants to bother singing for him anymore, so he is forced to do it himself
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Post by: Prog Snob on February 22, 2016, 06:34:49 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 22, 2016, 04:41:42 AM
I actually don't mind Malmsteen's vocals, although I'm not sure I could listen to a whole album of it. I'll take it over Ripper Owens though.

*flame shield up*

The last time I heard Malmsteen sing...I was scared. Has he improved? :lol Has he really burned that many bridges that nobody will work with him or does he really want his albums to get worse?
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2016, 07:55:30 AM: Agree with Kade. The first Ripper album, Perpetual Flame, is excellent. Didn't bother with the second after hearing Yngwie did half the vocals.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 22, 2016, 08:46:03 AM: Not interested in anything Yngwie has to offer these days. The last album where there was any quality control and thought put into it was Facing The Animal, and that was an age ago.
I'd give another Concerto a go but that's about it.
And Yngwie singing? About as palatable as me playing guitar.

There's so much better out there in the genre to bother with him.

It pains me to say it as he was my musical idol when he actually gave a fuck.
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 01:22:03 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 22, 2016, 06:29:08 AM
I never listened to Spellbound. Are even the instrumentals sub par?

I wonder if it's gotten to the point that nobody wants to bother singing for him anymore, so he is forced to do it himself

The instrumentals were just the same old thing so I didn't bother with it and just wrote it off. It sounds liike shit too.

Quote from: TAC on February 22, 2016, 07:55:30 AM
Agree with Kade. The first Ripper album, Perpetual Flame, is excellent. Didn't bother with the second after hearing Yngwie did half the vocals.

Relentless is still Tim singing, but only half the tracks or so have vocals. The story behind the album was that the songs were recorded during the Perpetual Flame sessions and Yngwie just made a new album out of them with some new instrumentals to fill the space but didn't even let Tim know what was going on.
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2016, 01:45:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 01:22:03 PM

Quote from: TAC on February 22, 2016, 07:55:30 AM
Agree with Kade. The first Ripper album, Perpetual Flame, is excellent. Didn't bother with the second after hearing Yngwie did half the vocals.

Relentless is still Tim singing, but only half the tracks or so have vocals.

So I was half right! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 02:25:25 PM: Yeah kinda, I guess. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2016, 05:40:37 PM: I knew the Ripper/Yngwie match up was doomed when Relentless was released and that was the first Tim knew of it lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 08:25:05 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 22, 2016, 05:40:37 PM
I knew the Ripper/Yngwie match up was doomed when Relentless was released and that was the first Tim knew of it lol

Yeah, pretty much was the beginning of the end. The good thing is, is that neither have any really negative to say about each other.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 08:30:07 PM: Ripper must've done what he was told and supplied the donuts :smiley:
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 08:31:31 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 08:30:07 PM
Ripper must've done what he was told and supplied the donuts :smiley:

Krispy Kreme do you think?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 08:32:08 PM: Donut King because Yngwie is the donut (and shred) king.
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 08:47:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 08:32:08 PM
Donut King because Yngwie is the donut (and shred) king.

oh, of course.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2016, 09:17:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 08:32:08 PM
Donut King because Yngwie is the donut (and shred) king.

double whammy
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Post by: Prog Snob on February 22, 2016, 09:43:09 PM: Yngwie doesn't like donuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--wNB5uZQwE :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 23, 2016, 12:19:54 AM: lol
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Post by: Deathless on February 23, 2016, 07:46:33 AM: So apparently the guys in Dokken are trying to reunite again, according to Jeff Pilson. He said they are all good friends again and it's just a matter of his schedule being open for them to do it.

Honestly, I would go watch. Don's voice is shot, but Mick and Jeff are both great singers and can fill in for him. It'd be cool to see them perform live again as a four-piece.

I'm sure we'll hear about George and Don fighting again within the month though. :D
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 23, 2016, 07:54:50 AM: Dokken has probably reunited and broken up a dozen times just since this rumor started
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Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2016, 11:17:26 AM: Although I love 80s Dokken, Dons voice is gone and I don't think George is interested in rehashing the old sound. He did come quite close with the Sweet Lynch thing I guess so maybe. I have no interest in that modern rock sound George seems to love now.
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Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2016, 01:50:48 PM: I'm pretty sure we'll hear from George soon saying he doesn't know anything about this.
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Post by: Deathless on February 23, 2016, 02:22:37 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 23, 2016, 01:50:48 PM
I'm pretty sure we'll hear from George soon saying he doesn't know anything about this.

From the same article.. lol.

Quote
Lynch last year told Glide Magazine about the possibility of a DOKKEN reunion: "Of course, that comes and goes every couple of years [laughs], so who knows. But we're talking again about that."
Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dokken-is-working-really-hard-to-reunite-classic-lineup-for-tour-says-jeff-pilson/#4WtwPvzZ5wECuZdw.99

:lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2016, 03:12:42 PM: :lol

Yeah, it's a don't believe it until we see it situation.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2016, 03:20:41 PM: I should've quoted Deathless' "Don's voice is hot" before he edited it ;D

I would be interested to see how a studio project turns out but Don will need a lot of technology to get him through. Zero interest in seeing them live - not that they would tour Australia anyway. Although Steve Augeri and some dude from Kansas are touring together - God knows who will go and see that :lol Might be a great gig but not enough people out here would have a clue who they are.
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Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2016, 03:28:51 PM: Shit, after all my initial negative comments when samples were released, I'm actually quite liking this Nordic Union. Purchased it with the Avantasia and PF just cause it was $20 and really had no expectations from it at all. It's obvious recycled, thoughtless, generic material, but fuck, I'm liking it. At least one song a bit more epic or out of the box would have been appreciated instead of just 11, four minute rehashes, but it is what it is. Production is good and Ronnie sounds great, and makes it much more enjoyable. And there's no real bad or cringe worthy songs which keeps it strength throughout. I wouldn't give it the ratings it's been getting but enjoyable if you can get past the blatant rehashing.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2016, 08:08:46 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 20, 2016, 12:51:47 PM
So, got through a full listen of the Inglorious last night and it was ok. Not great, but decent.

I'm finding it a grower - at times it's a bit too much the "plodding bluesy rock" (I was expecting a bit more upbeat after the killer Breakaway single) but I am liking it more on each listen. I hardly ever listen to this style (outside of Badlands) and so maybe it seems a bit fresher to me than it otherwise might. Ridiculous singer too - I might even listen to some TSO now :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 24, 2016, 10:28:28 PM: It's still growing on me too. The bluesy stuff is great, like Holy Water, and the intro of Warning leading into that high tempo rocker. Breakaway is amazing though, with the energy and groove in that riff.
The weaker part for me is the metal stuff near the end that really doesn't suit them so much, but it's still mostly good too.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2016, 02:59:28 AM: The metal queen is back :huh:

Thoughts Chad?

https://youtu.be/1LgBv3l8Rx4
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Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 04:03:23 AM: The fuck was that? I lasted until the second line about washing her car or some shit.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2016, 04:14:06 AM: I knew you would love it Kade. ;D I called out Chad because I know he is a bit of a Lee Aaron fanboy. She has always had quirky , fun videos but that was all a bit much for me :lol .
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Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 04:16:23 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2016, 04:14:06 AM
I knew you would love it Kade. ;D I called out Chad because I know he is a bit of a Lee Aaron fanboy. She has always had quirky , fun videos but that was all a bit much for me :lol .

Never heard of her, and I won't be exploring any of her work anytime soon. Banned for my roulette too now Chad, don't bother. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 04:17:06 AM: Not that there's many fans but, new Blaze Bayley;

Pretty simple and stripped back, but solid, could be good. I'm looking forward to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk2dK8k_uzE&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2016, 04:20:44 AM: I think I preferred the Lee Aaron :rollin The YT comments are very positive , so must just be me. I do have some of his albums (there's some really good stuff on Blood and Belief etc...) so it's not as if I have anything against him. But I found that pretty pissweak.
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Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 04:25:40 AM: As I said, stripped back, but yeah, it's not as layered as his old stuff. I've always just liked what he does, but by the sounds of this one and the last one, the production vales aren't as strong as they use to be. Budget probably.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 25, 2016, 05:30:14 AM: The first two Blaze albums are killer. Everything that I've heard from that point on, starting with Blood & Belief, has been a big downgrade. I think he has gone through quite a few line up changes, so maybe that has something to do with it.

This new song is meh, nothing I would go out of my way to play again
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Post by: TAC on February 25, 2016, 05:55:49 AM: Promise And Terror kicks all kinds of ass!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 25, 2016, 06:01:40 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 25, 2016, 05:55:49 AM
Promise And Terror kicks all kinds of ass!

Never heard that one, I'll check it out
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Post by: TAC on February 25, 2016, 06:04:55 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 25, 2016, 06:01:40 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 25, 2016, 05:55:49 AM
Promise And Terror kicks all kinds of ass!

Never heard that one, I'll check it out

It was his first album after his wife passed away. The last 4 tracks are basically a suite dealing with it and it is absolutely mindblowing.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 25, 2016, 09:40:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2016, 04:14:06 AM
I knew you would love it Kade. ;D I called out Chad because I know he is a bit of a Lee Aaron fanboy. She has always had quirky , fun videos but that was all a bit much for me :lol .

Quirky fun videos are fine... 25 years ago, and when the tunes are good. This wasn't a very good tune, and just a dumb-ass video.

Hands On and Whatchya Do To My Body are where it's at - the former is the better song; the latter is the better video. Could be that my 17-year old teenage crush is skewing my bias... but, her 80s output was great stuff.

This... not so much.
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Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 01:20:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 25, 2016, 05:55:49 AM
Promise And Terror kicks all kinds of ass!

Yes, a great metal album. One of my favs is The Man Who Would Not Die also, that's a killer album.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 26, 2016, 10:35:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2016, 02:59:28 AM
The metal queen is back :huh:

Thoughts Chad?

https://youtu.be/1LgBv3l8Rx4

That was pretty awful. And I like some female fronted hard rock. I still would though ;)

So the new Anthrax. Awesome. Absolutely love it. Joey is unrecognisable but nails it. I haven't really listened to them since SoWN as that one didn't do it for me, though I have sampled them here and there. This is a cracker though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 26, 2016, 11:03:05 AM: Paul, do you rate it higher than Worship Music?
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 26, 2016, 12:13:06 PM: I've had one listen to the new Anthrax and frankly, I was really disappointed. So many mediocre tracks with some uninspired riffing and some melodies that just plodded along. Hopefully this is a grower.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 26, 2016, 01:34:26 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 26, 2016, 11:03:05 AM
Paul, do you rate it higher than Worship Music?

Only heard WM once I think. Really enjoyed my first listen of the new one. Other than Spreading the Disease I wouldn't say I was a fan.
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Post by: TAC on February 26, 2016, 01:45:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 26, 2016, 01:34:26 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 26, 2016, 11:03:05 AM
Paul, do you rate it higher than Worship Music?

Only heard WM once I think. Really enjoyed my first listen of the new one. Other than Spreading the Disease I wouldn't say I was a fan.

WM took a while to sink in. The first many listens, I didn't think it was that special. But then it hit me all at once and I think it's awesome. Just got the new one (and the Redemption) today and have just loaded it onto my iPod. Will listen to shortly.
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Post by: TAC on February 26, 2016, 03:27:05 PM: I am here to happily report that FOR ALL KINGS KICKS TOTAL ASS!!!!! :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 26, 2016, 08:08:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 26, 2016, 03:27:05 PM
I am here to happily report that FOR ALL KINGS KICKS TOTAL ASS!!!!! :metal :metal

Yup, I'm really liking it upon first listen! :metal
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Post by: Big Hath on February 29, 2016, 02:57:44 PM: no hurry, but is there an update on the next Ben & Brent show?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 29, 2016, 03:12:22 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on February 29, 2016, 02:57:44 PM
no hurry, but is there an update on the next Ben & Brent show?

Not really ;D Still sitting on my old PC 80% finished. I do think about it each few days but am still in the "crossover period" where we have taken possession of a new property plus still having to look after the sold one , gradually relocating a home office , (hopefully) rebuilding a business and the big move is this weekend. I have also been sick as a dog for the best part of a month with chest infections etc......

Certainly not forgotten but what little time I have had was spent making sure I kick some degree of ass in Evermind's roulette. :metal Finally got that playlist down from mega huge to just large :lol

I expect there to be a March edition but that's all I can commit to :)
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Post by: TAC on February 29, 2016, 03:31:41 PM: Whenever you get a chance Brent. Looking forward to it!
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 29, 2016, 03:47:24 PM: Also checking in as eagerly awaiting.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 29, 2016, 07:03:20 PM: Well.......unlike almost everyone else I am not feeling the love for the new Anthrax. Everything on it could qualify as "good" but nothing is grabbing me. I can't find much of what I associate with my favourite Anthrax tracks- big hooks, frantic pace/thrashing energy. It would be pushing it to call this a thrash album at all. I find a lot of it to be plodding pace , little energy and very pedestrian drumming etc.......with a slight whiff of nu-metal through much of it. And when they do speed it up (Zero Tolerance) it's all pretty generic Anthrax.

The stand out for me is the instrumental midsection of Blood Eagle Wings but then it's back to the plodding chorus.

I would rate it around 75% :-\
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 29, 2016, 07:09:25 PM: I figured you would have rated it much higher. Maybe it will grow.

Just try listening to Breathing Lightning and This Battle Chose Us by themselves. Those are the two standouts to me and I love them!
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Post by: bl5150 on February 29, 2016, 08:06:33 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 29, 2016, 07:09:25 PM
I figured you would have rated it much higher. Maybe it will grow.

Just try listening to Breathing Lightning and This Battle Chose Us by themselves. Those are the two standouts to me and I love them!

Will do.

Random Comment : Omnium Gatherum play some nice music if it wasn't for the freaking growlies :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 29, 2016, 08:42:45 PM: Sounds like a band I should check out.
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Post by: Big Hath on February 29, 2016, 09:19:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 29, 2016, 08:42:45 PM
Sounds like a band I should check out.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

:lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 29, 2016, 09:22:19 PM: let the cock blocks begin :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 29, 2016, 09:39:24 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on February 29, 2016, 09:19:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 29, 2016, 08:42:45 PM
Sounds like a band I should check out.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

:lol

That makes me want to check them out even more. :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 29, 2016, 10:35:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 29, 2016, 07:03:20 PM
Well.......unlike almost everyone else I am not feeling the love for the new Anthrax. Everything on it could qualify as "good" but nothing is grabbing me. I can't find much of what I associate with my favourite Anthrax tracks- big hooks, frantic pace/thrashing energy. It would be pushing it to call this a thrash album at all. I find a lot of it to be plodding pace , little energy and very pedestrian drumming etc.......with a slight whiff of nu-metal through much of it. And when they do speed it up (Zero Tolerance) it's all pretty generic Anthrax.

The stand out for me is the instrumental midsection of Blood Eagle Wings but then it's back to the plodding chorus.

I would rate it around 75% :-\

So, I'm not the only one. Gave it another listen yesterday and while it was better than the first time, it's still a disappointment for me. No way this comes close to Worship Music.
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 05:26:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 29, 2016, 07:03:20 PM
Well.......unlike almost everyone else I am not feeling the love for the new Anthrax. Everything on it could qualify as "good" but nothing is grabbing me. I can't find much of what I associate with my favourite Anthrax tracks- big hooks, frantic pace/thrashing energy. It would be pushing it to call this a thrash album at all. I find a lot of it to be plodding pace , little energy and very pedestrian drumming etc.......with a slight whiff of nu-metal through much of it. And when they do speed it up (Zero Tolerance) it's all pretty generic Anthrax.

The stand out for me is the instrumental midsection of Blood Eagle Wings but then it's back to the plodding chorus.

I would rate it around 75% :-\

Honestly, I've never thought of Anthrax to be thrash anyway. And I agree with you about Charlie. He is way better than what is one this album. Frank Bello owns this album though!

That said, I am enjoying this album very much. And while listening, I was thinking about how good the recent Slayer, Megadeth, and Anthrax albums are.
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Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 05:29:17 AM: New Mob Rules;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m14ZfESsWlQ

Nothing new here, but that doesn't matter at all. Always get solid stuff from these guys.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 01, 2016, 05:46:59 AM: Now that I can get into.
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 06:12:00 AM: Did you catch this Kade?
https://bravewords.com/news/primal-fear-to-perform-in-australia-for-the-first-time-ever-in-june-2016
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Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2016, 06:17:29 AM: You'll be able to hear the wolf howl from where you are Tim...................when he realises there is no gig in his state. Look out! :corn

I'll go with you Kade if you want to come to Melbourne ;) They're literally playing small pub type gigs.........the place in Melbourne only holds 300 afaik. Lots of dumbass promoters booking unrealistic touring prospects and then cancelling at the moment - hopefully this does okay. As I predicted Graham Bonnet has been cancelled due to poor sales.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 01, 2016, 06:28:28 AM: Man, and I thought it sucked to be a prog/metal fan in NA! PF + Luca-Rhapsody are playing Toronto June 1st. Guess they're heading down under right after that.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 01, 2016, 06:29:21 AM: Never even heard of the venue they're playing here, but I imagine it's similarly sized to the venue in Melbourne. Surprised that they're touring here. Even though I'm not into them, I hope it does well.
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 07:25:39 AM: I'm still thinking about Brent's Anthrax post...

I've never considered them a great band. Never thought Belladonna was a strong vocalist. Never thought a ton of the guitar work. But they have made a lot of enjoyable music, though all of their albums have gaping holes.

But I have found FAK and WM as pretty high quality wise. I like the guitar playing on this album and it feels solid all the way through.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 01, 2016, 01:28:15 PM: That's probably why I like the anthrax - it doesn't sound like Anthrax. I actually prefer joeys voice on this than the old albums.
I gave a listen to PoT and a few tracks stood out but it didn't wow me.
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Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 02:45:27 PM: For fucks sake, Sydney and Melbourne only. I was planning a winter Sydney trip at some stage so I could make it work.
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 02:47:07 PM: How far is Sydney from you? By car? By plane?
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Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 02:49:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 01, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
How far is Sydney from you? By car? By plane?

10 hours by car. Plane would be 1-2 hours I think.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 01, 2016, 02:55:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 01, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
How far is Sydney from you? By car? By plane?

10 hours by car. Plane would be 1-2 hours I think.

(https://i.imgur.com/q1KLC6R.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 02:58:20 PM: Nice.

Definitely!
:metal
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Post by: Lowdz on March 01, 2016, 03:13:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 01, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
How far is Sydney from you? By car? By plane?

10 hours by car. Plane would be 1-2 hours I think.

Got to be worth it. It's PF :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2016, 03:25:58 PM: This one got me to :spitcoffee:

Underneath a Blabbermouth story about Blackmore needing an op to remove some sort of gout from a finger joint

(https://s10.postimg.org/fhwv5j62x/Capture.png)
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 03:27:08 PM: :tup
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Post by: Lowdz on March 01, 2016, 03:34:19 PM: Saw it on Facebook. Looked nasty, and not great timing. The extra practice might have stirred it up.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2016, 03:35:48 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 01, 2016, 03:34:19 PM
Saw it on Facebook. Looked nasty, and not great timing. The extra practice might have stirred it up.

I hope it's just his finger you are talking about ;D
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Post by: gazinwales on March 02, 2016, 02:23:54 AM: Newton Social Club holds around 300, yeah I hope it sells out.
I'm not a fan of PF, but might be tempted to go along for a look.
The venue is only a 10 minute drive so I should make the effort.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 02, 2016, 02:48:59 AM: Primal Fear sure deserves to be playing in front of more than 300 people. And that's if it sells out lol. Sounds criminal
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Post by: bl5150 on March 02, 2016, 03:13:01 AM: I can honestly say that back in the day I played Melbourne in front of more people than Primal Fear :lol

And yet Steel Panther would get 3000+ here
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Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2016, 05:16:32 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on March 02, 2016, 02:23:54 AM
Newton Social Club holds around 300, yeah I hope it sells out.
I'm not a fan of PF, but might be tempted to go along for a look.
The venue is only a 10 minute drive so I should make the effort.

Do you reckon tickets would still be available on the door for something like this, or would it most probably sell out?
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Post by: gazinwales on March 02, 2016, 11:01:52 PM: Your guess is as good as mine mate ;) ;D
But I would like to think that a band of PF stature would easily sell out this venue and even be moved to something bigger.
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Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 04:50:36 AM: They bloody deserve to.
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Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2016, 04:51:20 AM: This could be good;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/joe-lynn-turner-street-of-dreams-boston-1985/
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 04, 2016, 06:08:46 AM: That sounds like it could be really cool
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 04, 2016, 03:39:07 PM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tony-iommi-wants-to-record-new-music-with-ex-black-sabbath-singer-tony-martin/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tony-iommi-wants-to-record-new-music-with-ex-black-sabbath-singer-tony-martin/)

This makes me really excited. If only just for the Headless cross and TYR re-releases.
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Post by: TAC on March 04, 2016, 03:43:36 PM: Saw that and meant to post. Looking forward to Cross Purposes as well. Hopefully a live show ends up as a bonus disc along the way.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 04, 2016, 05:29:54 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on March 04, 2016, 03:39:07 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tony-iommi-wants-to-record-new-music-with-ex-black-sabbath-singer-tony-martin/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tony-iommi-wants-to-record-new-music-with-ex-black-sabbath-singer-tony-martin/)

This makes me really excited. If only just for the Headless cross and TYR re-releases.

This is awesome! Wolf is going to pass out when he reads this.

I would've bet the farm that Tony Martin would never have recorded new music with Sabbath again. Maybe a tour under a different moniker? (I know Martin has toured under Headless Cross, so they could easily use that)

But that's getting too far ahead; the reissues will be overdue and very cool. I hope they include the Russia show with the HC deluxe
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 04, 2016, 06:05:22 PM: If this happens I hope there is a U.S release so I don't have to get them as imports
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Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2016, 03:42:04 AM: Amazing news. As I stated in the Sabbath thread, a full album would be nice, but anything is gold. Never thought I'd ever see Martin and Iommi hook up again.
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Post by: gazinwales on March 06, 2016, 11:30:43 AM: Nor me, but TM has been pretty quiet about his time with Sabbath and as though he will be rewarded for his patience.
I played the Forbidden CD yesterday and apart from the horrendous first song, the album is pretty good.
Iommi wants to remix it and it does need it, and as I found out it also has a killer Japan only track.
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Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2016, 04:47:49 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on March 06, 2016, 11:30:43 AM
Nor me, but TM has been pretty quiet about his time with Sabbath and as though he will be rewarded for his patience.
I played the Forbidden CD yesterday and apart from the horrendous first song, the album is pretty good.
Iommi wants to remix it and it does need it, and as I found out it also has a killer Japan only track.

Loser Gets it All. Probably top 3 of the whole album, crazy it wasn't included on the original album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on March 06, 2016, 11:17:49 PM: Yeah it is killer and I had previously read it was a terrible song.

BTW got a rare Sabbath CD Single today, paid $60 off ebay, but I'd never seen this anywhere.
Headless Cross/Edit/Cloak and Dagger, C&D only ever released on the vinyl pic disc of HC and the single.
Actually in better condition than the seller described it to be, very happy ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2016, 04:05:58 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on March 06, 2016, 11:17:49 PM
Yeah it is killer and I had previously read it was a terrible song.

BTW got a rare Sabbath CD Single today, paid $60 off ebay, but I'd never seen this anywhere.
Headless Cross/Edit/Cloak and Dagger, C&D only ever released on the vinyl pic disc of HC and the single.
Actually in better condition than the seller described it to be, very happy ;D

Whoever said that needs their head checked.

That single sounds juicy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 07, 2016, 05:50:33 AM: I was just listening to "Loser gets it all" yesterday. I have it on "Sabbath Stones"; this is a really cool Sabbath compilation from all the non Ozzy eras.

The song is fantastic!
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Post by: gazinwales on March 07, 2016, 10:51:37 PM: Yeah it's a great song for sure, should have been on the album in place of a few less than stella performances.
I am actually missing the Sabbath Stones compilation, don't know why I never bought it.
It's long OOP but I've seen a few on ebay for decent prices.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 08, 2016, 01:02:45 AM: Yeah I can't remember what I paid for it but I know it wasn't cheap. But not off the charts expensive like some albums.
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2016, 04:38:12 AM: I think I have that compilation. It's very good indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 08, 2016, 02:36:51 PM: I'm all over this!:
https://bravewords.com/news/rainbows-monsters-of-rock-live-at-donington-1980-on-dvd-cd-digital-in-april-all-night-long-video-streaming
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2016, 02:39:42 PM: Looks good.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 08, 2016, 03:57:00 PM: Shame the dvd doesn't have all the tracks that are on the cd. I'll pick this up though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on March 08, 2016, 07:09:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 08, 2016, 02:36:51 PM
I'm all over this!:
https://bravewords.com/news/rainbows-monsters-of-rock-live-at-donington-1980-on-dvd-cd-digital-in-april-all-night-long-video-streaming

ooh i may pick this one up. The performance of Stargazer from that show is killer!

Also Im going to keep an eye out for some of these
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/graham-bonnet-new-studio-album-career-spanning-anthology-biography-and-reissues-in-the-works/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/graham-bonnet-new-studio-album-career-spanning-anthology-biography-and-reissues-in-the-works/)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2016, 05:08:37 AM: Lords of Black video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VItybF6Skk4

What I've heard from this band is just so generic and dull. It's a pass from me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Calvin6s on March 09, 2016, 02:11:55 PM: Any word on how Tony MacAlpine is doing?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2016, 09:37:12 PM: Quote from: Calvin6s on March 09, 2016, 02:11:55 PM
Any word on how Tony MacAlpine is doing?

There's a video message on his Facebook page from a few weeks back

https://www.facebook.com/tonymacalpineofficial

We're just getting settled in , so not much time. Also involved in a police/legal stoush with our removalists which is getting nasty and taking up a lot of my time and energy - still hoping to have something done with the podcast before end March.

Still some work to do but here is the early stages of my new dungeon/listening station with new speakers and sit/stand workstation

(https://s7.postimg.org/wckecw0l7/IMG_0065_1.jpg)
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Post by: Bolsters on March 09, 2016, 10:08:42 PM: Are those the Swan M50W speakers you have there?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2016, 10:11:18 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on March 09, 2016, 10:08:42 PM
Are those the Swan M50W speakers you have there?

Good get. Yeah - if you click to enlarge you can see the little blue light on the volume control disk on the workspace. I think the sound qualities of the speakers suit the music I listen to quite well. It took a bit of tweaking on the sound card software to get it all good , but very happy now.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 09, 2016, 10:17:18 PM: Yeah I've been considering getting a new 2.1 set for my computer desk aswell, and these were on my radar. I've read some good things about them.
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Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2016, 10:59:27 PM: Nice little setup there Brent.

Can't view that TMac vid at at work. Hopefully it's good news.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 05:08:27 AM: TMAC seems in good spirits and looks really well. Would have liked a bit of an update, but I guess he wants to keep thing private, which is fair enough.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 10, 2016, 07:40:15 AM: Good to hear that Tony is in good spirits!
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Post by: Lowdz on March 10, 2016, 12:02:12 PM: Nice setup Brent.
I don't have anything to compare these days, not since my partner moving in and the kids being born killed my recording studio setup.

Just sold my Marshall practice amp as I've got a Peavey Vyper now. Money is going towards a new floyd rose for the Jem. I appear to have killed the edge pro :(
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Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 01:25:37 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 10, 2016, 12:02:12 PM
I appear to have killed the edge pro :(

How?
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Post by: Lowdz on March 10, 2016, 04:22:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 10, 2016, 12:02:12 PM
I appear to have killed the edge pro :(

How?

Not sure. It moves around in the cavity and won't stay in tune whether I use the bar or not. It's going to the doctor for a looking at.
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Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 04:26:43 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 10, 2016, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 10, 2016, 12:02:12 PM
I appear to have killed the edge pro :(

How?

Not sure. It moves around in the cavity and won't stay in tune whether I use the bar or not. It's going to the doctor for a looking at.

Probably just wear and tear then. I couple of mine are getting old I think and don't float back to normal position. If you dip it it goes back in tune, but if you raise it it will go back and sit slightly up and will stay sharp. You have to dip it again to get back to perfect tuning. :lol Never bothered to get them looked at.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2016, 12:21:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 10, 2016, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 10, 2016, 12:02:12 PM
I appear to have killed the edge pro :(

How?

Not sure. It moves around in the cavity and won't stay in tune whether I use the bar or not. It's going to the doctor for a looking at.

Probably just wear and tear then. I couple of mine are getting old I think and don't float back to normal position. If you dip it it goes back in tune, but if you raise it it will go back and sit slightly up and will stay sharp. You have to dip it again to get back to perfect tuning. :lol Never bothered to get them looked at.

Yeah that's what I thought. It kept pulling too far forward when I tuned to pitch and I just couldn't get the unit to sit parallel. Didn't want to move the screws too far as I couldn't see why it would suddenly need such a big adjustment.
Off to the shop tomorrow. If it needs a new floyd there goes the cash I had lined up for a digit each trio+.
Whoops I'm in the wrong thread!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2016, 07:44:55 PM: Rare comedy sketch from the 80's featuring (along with Dawn French) ...........Lemmy,Gary Moore, David Gilmour , Mark Knopfler . I think they needed Yngwie to round it out perfectly :)

https://www.guitarworld.com/artists-artist-news-artist-videos/rare-comedy-sketch-stars-david-gilmour-lemmy-mark-knopfler-and
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Post by: Big Hath on March 12, 2016, 09:20:16 PM: ha, good stuff!
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Post by: Evermind on March 13, 2016, 06:39:13 AM: Hahaha, this made me laugh quite a lot. :lol
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Post by: Big Hath on March 13, 2016, 09:22:33 AM: "it doesn't have the little picture with the dots"
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Post by: Evermind on March 13, 2016, 12:11:19 PM: My favourite moment was either Gilmour keeping playing the guitar those few seconds paying no attention to the prosecutor guy or Mark King going with his solo again with this contented facial expression until they turned the page and then going all "wow, wtf is this?". :lol
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Post by: Big Hath on March 13, 2016, 01:48:22 PM: haha, yeah, the guy was like "oops, wrong page" :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 14, 2016, 05:48:52 AM: Haha, just laughed out loud, this is indeed very funny and amazing that they got all these players.

... and now with the book :metal
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 14, 2016, 09:18:01 PM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-blue-murder-keyboardist-nik-green-dies-after-battle-with-cancer/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-blue-murder-keyboardist-nik-green-dies-after-battle-with-cancer/)

This sucks. The first Blue murder album was killer
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Post by: bl5150 on March 14, 2016, 09:20:39 PM: Hey ozzy - sad news. The opinion on the Blue Murder varies a bit around here. I think it was half killer , half filler but I do love some tracks on it. I would've also been interested to hear how it might have sounded with some of the singers that were supposed to have been demoing for it (Ray Gillen, Mark Free).

Screaming Blue Murder is a good live album too if you can find it.
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Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2016, 09:27:11 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on March 14, 2016, 09:18:01 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-blue-murder-keyboardist-nik-green-dies-after-battle-with-cancer/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-blue-murder-keyboardist-nik-green-dies-after-battle-with-cancer/)

This sucks. The first Blue murder album was killer

That blows big time. I love the first album a lot too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 15, 2016, 04:23:26 AM: Yup very good album
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2016, 04:50:18 AM: Sad news of course.

I do remember being VERY disappointed when that first album came out.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 15, 2016, 10:07:59 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 14, 2016, 09:20:39 PM
Hey ozzy - sad news. The opinion on the Blue Murder varies a bit around here. I think it was half killer , half filler but I do love some tracks on it. I would've also been interested to hear how it might have sounded with some of the singers that were supposed to have been demoing for it (Ray Gillen, Mark Free).

Screaming Blue Murder is a good live album too if you can find it.

I'd agree with that. The lyrics (for once) put me off (Sex Child? Really?) on a couple of tracks but its a decent album. I don't mind Sykes' voice, it fits the music. His (over)use of pinch harmonics grates a bit after a while. Valley of The Kings, Jelly Roll, Ptolemy, Billy, great stuff. The ballads were decent. His output after this has been poor.
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 15, 2016, 11:38:36 AM: I get that and I'll admit the album isnt perfect by any means :lol

I just liked the good parts of the album enough to overlook some of the other stuff
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 15, 2016, 01:44:01 PM: The Blue Murder album wouldve been way better had they gotten Ray Gillen on vocals.
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 15, 2016, 01:47:17 PM: Yeah ray was a fantastic singer. I love his version of the eternal idol
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Post by: Lowdz on March 15, 2016, 02:20:56 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on March 15, 2016, 01:47:17 PM
Yeah ray was a fantastic singer. I love his version of the eternal idol

Yup me too
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Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2016, 03:24:45 PM: Still love me some Tony Martin, but yeah those versions with Ray are awesome indeed.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2016, 03:34:01 PM: The lack of studio material over Ray Gillen's career is criminal (esp metal)
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Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2016, 03:52:43 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 15, 2016, 03:34:01 PM
The lack of studio material over Ray Gillen's career is criminal (esp metal)

So much truth here.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 15, 2016, 03:55:52 PM: Ray should have been a mega star. The live recording with Sabbath is very cool to hear. Somewhat poor quality, but still cool
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2016, 09:37:03 AM: Just had a listen to the new album by The Treatment. It's straight up no frills hard rock, nothing new, but I enjoy that style. I like the production and the vocals, but I think the songwriting is bland and too weak for them to pull off the classic hard rock sound. When you're doing something this familiar, you better do it damn well to stand out from the pack. From one listen, I don't think this one has that, unfortunately.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 18, 2016, 02:21:47 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
Just had a listen to the new album by The Treatment. It's straight up no frills hard rock, nothing new, but I enjoy that style. I like the production and the vocals, but I think the songwriting is bland and too weak for them to pull off the classic hard rock sound. When you're doing something this familiar, you better do it damn well to stand out from the pack. From one listen, I don't think this one has that, unfortunately.

Played it this morning whilst working and having never heard a note by them. Had them in the 70s Zep clone category but was pleasantly surprised. Really enjoyed it and loved the singers voice
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Post by: Lowdz on March 18, 2016, 02:50:34 PM: New Dynazty track.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B_8y-lmm08E

Pretty standard fair for the band. I like the riffing. Singer is top notch. I'm not sure I like the dance music keyboards. Chorus is a bit happy sounding for me.
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Post by: TAC on March 18, 2016, 02:58:16 PM: Everything you say is true, Lowdz!
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Post by: TAC on March 18, 2016, 03:06:10 PM: New Metal Church tune.

https://bravewords.com/news/metal-church-release-reset-lyric-video

I like it. Definitely has that classic feel.

Of course the riff is pretty familiar.
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 18, 2016, 03:13:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 18, 2016, 03:06:10 PM
New Metal Church tune.

https://bravewords.com/news/metal-church-release-reset-lyric-video

I like it. Definitely has that classic feel.

Of course the riff is pretty familiar.

It is a nice track :metal

I hope they have at least one slower song to show off the more melodic side of mikes voice. Something in a similar vein to Anthem to the estranged which is my favorite song by them.
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Post by: TAC on March 18, 2016, 03:21:06 PM: Anthem To The Estranged is awesome!
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 18, 2016, 07:04:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 18, 2016, 02:58:16 PM
Everything you say is true, Lowdz!

True... but when is Dynazty "Hard Rock / Classic Metal"?? :biggrin: I posted this in the 'Modern prog/metal' thread earlier this morning. Definitely leaning towards the poppy-metal side of things, but still a fun listen.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2016, 09:25:40 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 18, 2016, 02:21:47 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
Just had a listen to the new album by The Treatment. It's straight up no frills hard rock, nothing new, but I enjoy that style. I like the production and the vocals, but I think the songwriting is bland and too weak for them to pull off the classic hard rock sound. When you're doing something this familiar, you better do it damn well to stand out from the pack. From one listen, I don't think this one has that, unfortunately.

Played it this morning whilst working and having never heard a note by them. Had them in the 70s Zep clone category but was pleasantly surprised. Really enjoyed it and loved the singers voice

I liked the singer too, but the songwriting didn't stick with me. Might give it another listen and see if it improves. I'd put them more in the AC/DC category than Zep. Both bands have had endless clones.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 19, 2016, 02:57:34 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2016, 09:25:40 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 18, 2016, 02:21:47 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
Just had a listen to the new album by The Treatment. It's straight up no frills hard rock, nothing new, but I enjoy that style. I like the production and the vocals, but I think the songwriting is bland and too weak for them to pull off the classic hard rock sound. When you're doing something this familiar, you better do it damn well to stand out from the pack. From one listen, I don't think this one has that, unfortunately.

Played it this morning whilst working and having never heard a note by them. Had them in the 70s Zep clone category but was pleasantly surprised. Really enjoyed it and loved the singers voice

I liked the singer too, but the songwriting didn't stick with me. Might give it another listen and see if it improves. I'd put them more in the AC/DC category than Zep. Both bands have had endless clones.

The Zep comparison was before I'd heard them. I found the album pretty instant but I was busy at the time. Looking forward to cranking it in the car next week with the windows open in the sun. The U.K equivalent of hitting the highway with the top down :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2016, 06:15:35 AM: Like that Metal Church tune!!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 19, 2016, 06:37:54 AM: Coming back to the new Anthrax I have to change my opinion. What I first thought of as a disappointment has turned into a very strong and enjoyable record. Took me some time and I've nearly given it up but this was a real grower. But it still can't touch Worship Music.
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2016, 03:54:25 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 18, 2016, 02:50:34 PM
New Dynazty track.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B_8y-lmm08E

Pretty standard fair for the band. I like the riffing. Singer is top notch. I'm not sure I like the dance music keyboards. Chorus is a bit happy sounding for me.

Could they be anymore blatant than ripping off their own songs. This is exact rip of Starlight, or Incarnation or Dawn of Your Creation. Bloody hell.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 20, 2016, 04:43:20 AM: I like Dynazty - and was an early fan - but to me , on the whole, the talent of the singer is a cut above the band/songs. They certainly get a thrashing on DTF roulettes :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2016, 04:45:54 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 20, 2016, 04:43:20 AM
I like Dynazty - and was an early fan - but to me , on the whole, the talent of the singer is a cut above the band/songs. They certainly get a thrashing on DTF roulettes :lol

Still only know Reantus, but it's fantastic. Can get over the recycling in this song though. It's worse than Martensson to be honest.
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Post by: TAC on March 21, 2016, 02:09:51 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 19, 2016, 06:37:54 AM
Coming back to the new Anthrax I have to change my opinion. What I first thought of as a disappointment has turned into a very strong and enjoyable record. Took me some time and I've nearly given it up but this was a real grower. But it still can't touch Worship Music.

Worship Music took a long time to click with me, but when it did, it did big time. I have taken to the new one a lot quicker.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 21, 2016, 04:30:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 21, 2016, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 19, 2016, 06:37:54 AM
Coming back to the new Anthrax I have to change my opinion. What I first thought of as a disappointment has turned into a very strong and enjoyable record. Took me some time and I've nearly given it up but this was a real grower. But it still can't touch Worship Music.

Worship Music took a long time to click with me, but when it did, it did big time. I have taken to the new one a lot quicker.

Both clicked right off the bat for me

Speaking of Anthrax, has anyone checked out their new video for Blood Eagle Wings? I think its over the top horrific, not something that I would expect from Anthrax. Maybe Slayer or a death metal band. Didn't like it
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 22, 2016, 07:24:24 AM: The video is shit, don't know what they were thinking and it doesn't fit their image imo.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 22, 2016, 05:38:01 PM: Well Kade...........just got the news that my worst band of all time (The Proclaimers) are doing a tour out here. And on the same promo - just when you thought it couldn't get any worse - was a gig called Totally 80's.

Check out this line up:

MARTIKA (Toy Soldiers, Love Thy will be Done), BERLIN (Take My Breath Away), LIMAHL of KAJAGOOGOO (Never Ending Story, Too Shy), KATRINA (Walking On Sunshine), PAUL LEKAKIS (Boom Boom Boom), MEN WITHOUT HATS (Safety Dance), STACEY Q (Two Of Hearts), plus Aussie Faves WA WA NEE (BITCH!! :hat ) and REAL LIFE. TOTALLY 80s! Too Much Fun!

Still tossing up whether to go to Primal Fear - you can get a meet and greet package for not much more than a regular DT ticket. Trouble is I don't know anyone who is interested and I'm not someone who generally likes going solo to gigs.
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Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2016, 05:51:52 PM: That has to be the worst 80's lineup anyone could ever put together. Except Wa Wa Nee, obviously. Real Life's one hit Send Me An Angel is actually really good too.

I'm with ya Brent, I don't like to go to gigs on my own either.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 22, 2016, 08:56:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 22, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
I'm not someone who generally likes going solo to gigs.

Geez... I'd never get to any concerts if this was the case. Other than Rush, I can't remember the last time I had a concert partner. Everything of the past couple of years has been solo - Queensryche, Kamelot, Nightwish, Evergrey, S-X, Avnatasia and DT (in 2 weeks). Also think I'll partake in PF when they're here in June. But I think they're touring with Turilli-Rhapsody? Not too interested in that.
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Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2016, 11:21:57 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 22, 2016, 08:56:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 22, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
I'm not someone who generally likes going solo to gigs.

Geez... I'd never get to any concerts if this was the case. Other than Rush, I can't remember the last time I had a concert partner. Everything of the past couple of years has been solo - Queensryche, Kamelot, Nightwish, Evergrey, S-X, Avnatasia and DT (in 2 weeks). Also think I'll partake in PF when they're here in June. But I think they're touring with Turilli-Rhapsody? Not too interested in that.

That's just cause you're a tough cunt.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 23, 2016, 12:20:35 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 22, 2016, 08:56:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 22, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
I'm not someone who generally likes going solo to gigs.

Geez... I'd never get to any concerts if this was the case. Other than Rush, I can't remember the last time I had a concert partner. Everything of the past couple of years has been solo - Queensryche, Kamelot, Nightwish, Evergrey, S-X, Avnatasia and DT (in 2 weeks). Also think I'll partake in PF when they're here in June. But I think they're touring with Turilli-Rhapsody? Not too interested in that.

I'm with you, Jingle. I've gone to so many shows alone...dozens.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 23, 2016, 03:30:43 AM: I also don't like to go alone, but a lot of the times there was no one to accompany me for various reasons. If I didn't go alone then I would have maybe seen only half the concerts I have.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2016, 03:35:33 AM: I am lucky , as I brainwashed my little sister as a kid (her favourite bands are Queensryche, DT, VH,Nightwish etc...) and she accompanies me to almost every gig I attend. So perhaps if I didn't have that advantage I may have reluctantly gone alone a few times. I have lost contact with most of my muso/metalhead mates for various reasons.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 23, 2016, 04:57:56 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 23, 2016, 03:35:33 AM
I am lucky , as I brainwashed my little sister as a kid (her favourite bands are Queensryche, DT, VH,Nightwish etc...) and she accompanies me to almost every gig I attend. So perhaps if I didn't have that advantage I may have reluctantly gone alone a few times. I have lost contact with most of my muso/metalhead mates for various reasons.

I did that too, brainwashing my sister, I turned her to DT, Queensryche, Savatage and rock/prog/metal in general, the problem is she lives In Sweden and I live in Germany so going to a concert together is a rare experience. And I've also lost contact to some of my former metalheads. Me getting kids and getting married was probably not metal enough for them.
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2016, 05:37:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 22, 2016, 11:21:57 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 22, 2016, 08:56:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 22, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
I'm not someone who generally likes going solo to gigs.

Geez... I'd never get to any concerts if this was the case. Other than Rush, I can't remember the last time I had a concert partner. Everything of the past couple of years has been solo - Queensryche, Kamelot, Nightwish, Evergrey, S-X, Avnatasia and DT (in 2 weeks). Also think I'll partake in PF when they're here in June. But I think they're touring with Turilli-Rhapsody? Not too interested in that.

That's just cause you're a tough cunt.

Well, you're half right! ;D

Back in the day I went to many shows solo. Was never a big deal.
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Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2016, 05:44:13 AM: Hmm..... I guess I'm just a pussy. You are all tough cunts. ;D
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2016, 05:45:51 AM: Yeah, but you're the coolest pussy going! :D
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Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2016, 05:47:24 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 23, 2016, 05:45:51 AM
Yeah, but you're the coolest pussy going! :D

Thanks champ. :tup

I actually got told by one of my employees just the other day that she found me really intimidating when she first got to know me. I laughed in the bitches face.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2016, 05:51:45 AM: You're like Ali G - you show your bitches respect :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2016, 05:52:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 23, 2016, 05:51:45 AM
You're like Ali G - you show your bitches respect :lol

Booyakasha!!
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Post by: Lowdz on March 23, 2016, 12:35:14 PM: I've gone the other way (if you see what I mean :lol) used to have loads of mates to go to gigs with - used to get a great night away out of it too. Now I go alone mostly. It's not a problem. Biggest problem is most bands are sticking to London and don't even do Manchester anymore.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 05:49:48 AM: I thought it was a joke that Axl Rose was replacing Brian Johnson in AC/DC for the remainder of their tour , but apparently not.......... :(
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 24, 2016, 05:51:07 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 05:49:48 AM
I thought it was a joke that Axl Rose was replacing Brian Johnson in AC/DC for the remainder of their tour , but apparently not.......... :(

Wow, as much as I can't stand AC/DC, that's just adding insult to injury. How long do you think it will last before the band grows tired of his shit?
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Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2016, 05:55:22 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 05:49:48 AM
I thought it was a joke that Axl Rose was replacing Brian Johnson in AC/DC for the remainder of their tour , but apparently not.......... :(

Wait a second, it's not a joke?

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/98/2a/eb/982aebe2d39aaf5c291f64f526166066.jpg)
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Post by: Bolsters on March 24, 2016, 05:56:55 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 05:49:48 AM
I thought it was a joke that Axl Rose was replacing Brian Johnson in AC/DC for the remainder of their tour , but apparently not.......... :(
(https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/NnoGhN1h.jpg.gif~original)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 24, 2016, 07:23:44 AM: So from now on every AD/DC concert will start up to two hours late and end too early when Axl's pissed because of something? And from my memory beging pissed is his natural state of mind at concerts.

How much did he have to pay or who's ass did he have to kiss to get a job like that?

And who really thinks that this could end other than in total disaster?

I'm actually speechless. :omg:
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 07:24:43 AM: I think we're talking 10 gigs to finish the US tour - but that'll be plenty for Axl to piss everyone off :lol

It seems a weird choice with GnR gearing up etc.........for a few gigs I am sure Storace would've been all over it - or Tornillo etc... Even Jimmy Barnes would sound more authentic than Axl fronting AC/DC.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 24, 2016, 07:26:36 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 05:49:48 AM
I thought it was a joke that Axl Rose was replacing Brian Johnson in AC/DC for the remainder of their tour , but apparently not.......... :(

Are they changing their name to Cinderella while they're at it?

If they had Axl Rose when they came here recently, I would have actually gone to see them again. :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 07:28:44 AM: And you'd probably still be there waiting ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 24, 2016, 07:30:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 07:28:44 AM
And you'd probably still be there waiting ;D

That's alright, I think Axl and I are on the same schedule anyway. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 24, 2016, 03:37:56 PM: I wonder if there is anything to the rumor that Brian has actually been fired by Angus.

I can't imagine this will go smoothly at all.
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Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2016, 07:33:36 PM: Angry Anderson could have been a possible replacement. I also think Udo would have fitted perfectly in ACDC also.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 08:36:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 24, 2016, 03:37:56 PM
I wonder if there is anything to the rumor that Brian has actually been fired by Angus.

I can't imagine this will go smoothly at all.

Angus must've intended going on after this "final tour" all along - otherwise all this makes no sense to me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 24, 2016, 08:47:15 PM: I've heard that Angus wants to keep ACDC going for another 10 years!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 08:52:41 PM: Angus seems to think he IS the band - I think he underestimates the importance of Brian and Malcolm in the eyes of the fans. I think he would do much better to retire the band and do some solo stuff if he wants to preserve his legacy with style.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2016, 09:57:03 PM: Many of you know I am a big fan of Howe era metal Church and so it hurts me to say that the new album is a letdown. It kicks off with one of the most generic , flat metal songs they have ever released and really takes a long time to get going at all. Howe sounds great but the song writing is lacking energy/balls. I was expecting something crushing to open up proceedings.........."we're back!!!!!!!" but not at all.

Thankfully things pick up big time in the second half - It Waits is classic Metal Church ,as are We Don't Suffer Fools and to some extent Needle and Suture/Fan The Fire.

But it's all too little too late and I think they needed more time to work on this.

Rating: 79%
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 03:47:51 AM: So I'm at work now and recently the intercom music has changed. I actually hear a lot of great tunes. But right now I just heard DLR's Living In Paradise. I just want to say that that song BLOWS!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 25, 2016, 04:14:29 AM: No it doesn't! It's one of the very few good songs from the Vai era.
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 04:17:56 AM: Yeah it does! :P I just heard it!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 25, 2016, 04:19:06 AM: And I hear it on a regular basis when I listen to DLR. :biggrin: Great song.
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 04:26:15 AM: People listen to DLR?
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 04:31:10 AM: I still think Eat 'em And Smile was excellent. It's the only one of his albums I've gotten on CD.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 25, 2016, 04:39:37 AM: I could never fully get into DLR solo material
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 04:44:48 AM: JJ, and I thought I was up early!
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 25, 2016, 04:46:42 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 25, 2016, 04:44:48 AM
JJ, and I thought I was up early!

Shift work. I never know what day it is either lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2016, 05:15:43 AM: I like a lot of the DLR solo material, not as good as Van Halen but still fun to listen to.

But when I saw him live he played only VH songs and maybe two of his solo songs. Seems he wasn't that confident on his own material. And VH songs without Eddie on guitar are just not the same. And it wasn't even Steve Vai but some touring guitarist whose name I forgot.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2016, 05:17:28 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2016, 05:15:43 AM
I like a lot of the DLR solo material, not as good as Van Halen but still fun to listen to.

But when I saw him live he played only VH songs and maybe two of his solo songs. Seems he wasn't that confident on his own material. And VH songs without Eddie on guitar are just not the same. And it wasn't even Steve Vai but some touring guitarist whose name I forgot.

Probably Joe Holmes.

I like plenty of DLR (although some songs haven't aged well) - esp songs off Eat Em and Smile and A Little Ain't Enough. Can't say that I listen to them much these days though.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 25, 2016, 05:27:44 AM: Never liked the two Vai albums much overall aside from the hits, but I still love A Little Ain't Enough, which holds up well. Your Filthy Little Mouth has a few good songs, but it was a bad era for rock music, so most of the album is weird stuff trying to stay current. DLR Band seems to be little known, but that's a solid rock album with some standout tracks.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 25, 2016, 05:38:01 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 25, 2016, 04:26:15 AM
People listen to DLR?

People that need cochlear implants. :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2016, 06:02:43 AM: Joe Holmes sounds right, and Wikipedia just confirmed that he toured with DLR for A Little Ain't Enough because of Jason Becker's diagnosis of ALS.

Joe wasn't bad but he was no EVH or Steve Vai.

Eat em and smile, Skyscraper and A little ain't enough are all great records. Filthy mouth was a mixed bag, Diamond Dave is weird and DLR Band is really solid but more modern rock sounding probably thanks to John5 than I expected from Dave.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 25, 2016, 06:06:18 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2016, 06:02:43 AM
Joe Holmes sounds right, and Wikipedia just confirmed that he toured with DLR for A Little Ain't Enough because of Jason Becker's diagnosis of ALS.

Joe wasn't bad but he was no EVH or Steve Vai.

Eat em and smile, Skyscraper and A little ain't enough are all great records. Filthy mouth was a mixed bag, Diamond Dave is weird and DLR Band is really solid but more modern rock sounding probably thanks to John5 than I expected from Dave.

DLR Band was more modern sounding than what he'd done before, but I still wouldn't call it modern compared to what was popular at the time. This was the late '90s! It was less specific to an era than the early stuff though.
I was never really a fan of Joe Holmes. It seems he was always the backup, but never really managed to do much of his own.
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 06:11:45 AM: Oh and Brent, the only thing getting me through my work day was knowing the Metal Church would be waiting for me when I get home.

But your review is not totally unexpected. But I do want something solid.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2016, 06:58:09 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 25, 2016, 06:11:45 AM
Oh and Brent, the only thing getting me through my work day was knowing the Metal Church would be waiting for me when I get home.

But your review is not totally unexpected. But I do want something solid.

Interested in your thoughts........next time I listen I will start at Track 6 ;D
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on March 25, 2016, 07:08:19 AM: Eat 'Em and Smile was awesome. You could not have put together a better backing band if you tried.
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 07:08:32 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2016, 06:02:43 AM
Joe Holmes sounds right, and Wikipedia just confirmed that he toured with DLR for A Little Ain't Enough because of Jason Becker's diagnosis of ALS.
Jason did the tour here.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 25, 2016, 07:24:45 AM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on March 25, 2016, 07:08:19 AM
Eat 'Em and Smile was awesome. You could not have put together a better backing band if you tried.

Seriously. That was some lineup.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2016, 09:21:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 25, 2016, 05:17:28 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2016, 05:15:43 AM
I like a lot of the DLR solo material, not as good as Van Halen but still fun to listen to.

But when I saw him live he played only VH songs and maybe two of his solo songs. Seems he wasn't that confident on his own material. And VH songs without Eddie on guitar are just not the same. And it wasn't even Steve Vai but some touring guitarist whose name I forgot.

Probably Joe Holmes.

I like plenty of DLR (although some songs haven't aged well) - esp songs off Eat Em and Smile and A Little Ain't Enough. Can't say that I listen to them much these days though.

I play the 1st two solo albums regularly, though Skyscraper only really gets played because it's tagged onto the end of the same CD-R for the car :biggrin: that was a letdown of an album overall. EEAS is a great album. Vai rules on it and I'd take it over any VH album. ALAE was excellent too. Becker did a great job. After that I don't think he made one decent solo song.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2016, 09:28:58 AM: Even if you don't like the song................the lyrics to Land's Edge

Here's a word about my ex-girlfriend
Towards the end conflict off and on
And I told her one night, "Honey every time we fight
I'll write a verse to this song"

Well, things got bad and things got worse
Still I struggled on
So sit back and get all comfortable
'Cause this little tunes six fuckin' hours long

:hefdaddy
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Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2016, 11:06:12 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 25, 2016, 09:28:58 AM
Even if you don't like the song................the lyrics to Land's Edge

Here's a word about my ex-girlfriend
Towards the end conflict off and on
And I told her one night, "Honey every time we fight
I'll write a verse to this song"

Well, things got bad and things got worse
Still I struggled on
So sit back and get all comfortable
'Cause this little tunes six fuckin' hours long

:hefdaddy

That is a cracker. You can rely on Dave for a great lyric.

I really like

Float like a butterfly
Sting like a B52

And

I was born without a silver spoon but I'm gonna make a stir
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 03:14:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 25, 2016, 06:58:09 AM
Quote from: TAC on March 25, 2016, 06:11:45 AM
Oh and Brent, the only thing getting me through my work day was knowing the Metal Church would be waiting for me when I get home.

But your review is not totally unexpected. But I do want something solid.

Interested in your thoughts........next time I listen I will start at Track 6 ;D

OK One listen in.

And all I can say is :metal :metal :metal

Brent, a 79?? You couldn't give it one measly point to get to an 80? :lol

I don't know how any fan of the Howe era could be disappointed with this album. What I like about it the most is that while I feared they'd keep Mike in his lower register, they do not. It is the classic sounds of Mike Howe Metal Church.

I agree with Brent that the second half of the album is far superior to the first half. Not that the first half is bad. Seems like they could've used a few choruses in the first half. But the first half still rocks. It's just that the second half is excellent.

But I was thinking. What do the classic 3 Howe era albums all have in common? They all have excellent first sides while tucking all of the weakest tracks on the second side. This simply does the opposite. ;D

But by the end I am very happy.

Deserves an 80% easy! :P
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2016, 03:19:04 PM: So what do you get when you cross Chris Holmes and Suicidal Tendencies?
Apparently The Tracy G Band. WTF?

https://bravewords.com/news/former-dio-guitarist-tracy-g-releases-solo-album-tramp
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Post by: bl5150 on March 27, 2016, 09:00:51 PM: While we wait for Ben to get his shit together for another podcast , I thought I would just post to assure you that your :metal podcast host has been spreading the metal word. On the weekend we had a family wedding at which Ben was page boy.

For the formalities he put on his best James Bond and kept things very smooth and sophisticated

(https://s17.postimg.org/y42c4xxhb/IMG_8159.jpg)(https://s17.postimg.org/ripm56hmn/IMG_8277.jpg)(https://s17.postimg.org/6pim30zpb/IMG_8275.jpg)

When the formalities were over however it was a different story (none of these were posed for - just Ben being Ben :lol )

(https://s17.postimg.org/4v5rlacov/IMG_8184.jpg)(https://s17.postimg.org/uyhqeqev3/IMG_8333.jpg)(https://s17.postimg.org/afmu9o0xr/IMG_8425.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 28, 2016, 03:19:17 AM: Metal Ben!!!

:metal
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Post by: Lowdz on March 28, 2016, 04:10:46 AM: :metal
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 05:06:42 AM: Cool pics. Super class kid Brent.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 28, 2016, 05:30:27 AM: Awww, cute, but I'm sure that cute is the last thing he wants to be called ;D

How old is he?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2016, 05:31:31 AM: Just turned 8 :)
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 28, 2016, 05:43:25 AM: Those are awesome photos. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 05:46:41 AM: I'm having a listen to the new Anthrax at the moment. I have never really gotten into much of their stuff at all to be honest. I have an old best of but that's about it and it never did grab me. I've never really heard any of their new stuff but this new one is a great slab of heavy metal, not what I expected. Might have to pick this up. Is this a fair representation of what they have been doing in their later years? Not sure how active they have been to be honest too lately.

EDIT: Just saw this album has Jon Donais from Shadows Fall on leads, he's a great guitarist.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 28, 2016, 06:08:59 AM: I'm a long time Anthrax fan. But not all of their records are flawless.

From the classic era I would recommend Spreading The Disease and Among The Living. From the Bush era Stomp 442 and We've Come For You All, the former being more trashy and aggressive than they used to be. And Worship Music is a great comeback record. The new one really grew on me after I was disappointed at first. I think it's a fairly good representation of classic Anthrax.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 28, 2016, 02:03:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 28, 2016, 05:31:31 AM
Just turned 8 :)

My 8 year old loves The Astonishing and both my boys were "playing" it today. Not the album, playing the game!
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 02:06:46 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 28, 2016, 06:08:59 AM
I'm a long time Anthrax fan. But not all of their records are flawless.

From the classic era I would recommend Spreading The Disease and Among The Living. From the Bush era Stomp 442 and We've Come For You All, the former being more trashy and aggressive than they used to be. And Worship Music is a great comeback record. The new one really grew on me after I was disappointed at first. I think it's a fairly good representation of classic Anthrax.

Cool mate, thanks. I'll think I'll definitely purchase this new one, it's great.
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Post by: TAC on March 28, 2016, 02:28:06 PM: Yeah Kade, the new Anthrax is excellent. As was Worship Music.
Those are the only albums they have made since Joey came back to the band.
They have been very active touring and such.

Kwyjibo pretty much nailed it. I also think you'd really like Spreading The Disease. It's a classic.

And I also echo his call for Stomnp 442, which is not only my favorite of the Bush years, but is one of my all time favorite albums.
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 03:04:30 PM: Just having a bit of a listen of Worship Music right now before work Tim. A bit more old school thrash on the first track it seems which is fine with me, I think the new one had more heavy metal elements which makes it appeal to me more I think.

Even though I don't know much Armored Saint, I'm interested in hearing the stuff Bush did with them.

EDIT: Second song on Worship Music has the heavy metal feel so I'm liking this one too.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2016, 03:05:38 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 28, 2016, 02:03:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 28, 2016, 05:31:31 AM
Just turned 8 :)

My 8 year old loves The Astonishing and both my boys were "playing" it today. Not the album, playing the game!

Ben likes some Disney too occasionally ;D (sorry........you set that up perfectly :lol)
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Post by: TAC on March 28, 2016, 03:17:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 03:04:30 PM
Just having a bit of a listen of Worship Music right now before work Tim. A bit more old school thrash on the first track it seems which is fine with me, I think the new one had more heavy metal elements which makes it appeal to me more I think.

Even though I don't know much Armored Saint, I'm interested in hearing the stuff Bush did with them.

EDIT: Second song on Worship Music has the heavy metal feel so I'm liking this one too.

The four albums they did with Bush, not sure how to say it, but you can never find anyone to agree which one is better, or worse.

Still could never understand the decision to bring Bush in. To me, they just blew up two bands.
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Post by: TAC on March 28, 2016, 03:18:25 PM: Oh and Brent, nice pics! :tup
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 03:37:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 28, 2016, 03:17:50 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 03:04:30 PM
Just having a bit of a listen of Worship Music right now before work Tim. A bit more old school thrash on the first track it seems which is fine with me, I think the new one had more heavy metal elements which makes it appeal to me more I think.

Even though I don't know much Armored Saint, I'm interested in hearing the stuff Bush did with them.

EDIT: Second song on Worship Music has the heavy metal feel so I'm liking this one too.

The four albums they did with Bush, not sure how to say it, but you can never find anyone to agree which one is better, or worse.

Still could never understand the decision to bring Bush in. To me, they just blew up two bands.

Is Bush like the Blaze Bayley of Anthrax?

Out of the new one and Worship Music, I like the new one a lot more.
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Post by: TAC on March 28, 2016, 04:02:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 03:37:55 PM

Is Bush like the Blaze Bayley of Anthrax?

Out of the new one and Worship Music, I like the new one a lot more.

No no no, Bush is not the Blaze of Anthrax.

What was amazing was that Anthrax was still arcing in 1992. They were never more popular, and their current album, Persistance Of Time, was arguably their strongest to date. It really made no sense to bail on Joey at that time.

I think they could tell that with grunge getting more popular, they'd lose some appeal as Belladonna's "80's voice" wouldn't translate into the 90's. But to me, they completely panicked. Yeah, Armored Saint, though they also made there strongest album at the same time, seemed to be on their last legs as well.

So the move was made. Now John Bush is all kinds of awesome, so I was curious about this. I was a bigger Armored Saint fan than Anthrax, but I loved both.

The first album was Sound Of White Noise. It has aged very well, but I could not wrap my head around Bush singing for Anthrax and it took some time for the album to sink in. It a good album though. I saw the tour a couple of times, and they even had a big MTV Headbanger's Ball promotion on it. Original guitarist Dan Spitz left after the tour.

Stomp 442 was next, and I love it. A lot of the solos were done by Dimebag Darrell. This album, especially lyrically, has Bush's fingerprints all over it. I think that's what I like the most.

Volume 8: The Threat Is Real is completely all over the place. Not sure WTF they were thinking on this one.

and after a loooooong time, We've Come For You All was released and I personally cannot get into it. It's very heavy, but to me, it goes nowhere. Still a lot of guys I respect love it, so there.

One thing they did which was cool was release The Greater Of Two Evils, which was band rerecording live their older stuff with Bush singing on it. It's great.

I think all in all, during the Bush era, Anthrax could never figure out that kind of band they wanted to be, and just ended up wasting 20 years. I think ultimately it was a case of the Whole NOT being greater than the sum of its parts.

I feel like the new one is more immediate than Worship Music. It feels a bit more direct. But Worship Music is awesome.
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 05:12:56 PM: Nice writeup, thanks Tim. Seems like the band just lacked consistency over time. I'm actually looking forward to checking all these out. Gotta go through and find the best of that I own and throw it in the car I think.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 28, 2016, 06:46:32 PM: Tim said it well!

I love Armored Saint and Bush's vocals, but to me, something just always seemed a bit off with Bush in Anthrax. I enjoy Bush's vocals more than Joey, but Joey fits the Anthrax sound better.

I would personally recommend getting Spreading the Disease (the best no question), Among the Living, Worship Music and Greater of Two Evils. I agree with Tim that Volume 8 was all over the place.

But Wolf, make sure you check out samples of Armored Saint to get the full power of Bush's vocals.
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 09:01:12 PM: Might save Armored Saint for the roulette. :tup
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Post by: TAC on March 29, 2016, 04:08:50 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 09:01:12 PM
Might save Armored Saint for the roulette. :tup

That's a good move.
Armored Saint Round!!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 04:18:03 AM: For Kade's roulette we should all change our avatars to Issa :metal

How's that Kade? :metal
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 29, 2016, 05:13:16 AM: Re: Bush and Anthrax

I felt that after Among The Living they got kind of stale, so for me a change was welcome. And I always felt that Belladonna's voice was to hair/power-metal-like to really fit a trash metal band, he was just lacking that certain kind of agression which I felt some songs needed. But although they changed the singer for White Noise that album left me totally cold.

Now Bush has a much more aggressive and in your face voice and is therefore more suited for their trashier material. But they didn't exactly write songs to use his voice to full potential. The only exception is Stomp 442, which on the whole is not that typical for Anthrax but was the perfect blend of agressive trash metalm song and Bush's voice. And that's why it's my favorite from the Bush era and just an awesome album.

And nowadays Belladonna's voice seems to have matured, imo he has more power and doesn't go constantly for those high vocals so that I like his current style much better and it fits the band that much better.
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 05:53:25 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 04:18:03 AM
For Kade's roulette we should all change our avatars to Issa :metal

How's that Kade? :metal

:rollin

DTF will be renamed Kip & Issa forums. :lol

Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 29, 2016, 05:13:16 AM
Re: Bush and Anthrax

I felt that after Among The Living they got kind of stale, so for me a change was welcome. And I always felt that Belladonna's voice was to hair/power-metal-like to really fit a trash metal band, he was just lacking that certain kind of agression which I felt some songs needed. But although they changed the singer for White Noise that album left me totally cold.

Now Bush has a much more aggressive and in your face voice and is therefore more suited for their trashier material. But they didn't exactly write songs to use his voice to full potential. The only exception is Stomp 442, which on the whole is not that typical for Anthrax but was the perfect blend of agressive trash metalm song and Bush's voice. And that's why it's my favorite from the Bush era and just an awesome album.

And nowadays Belladonna's voice seems to have matured, imo he has more power and doesn't go constantly for those high vocals so that I like his current style much better and it fits the band that much better.

Listening to this new one, I kind of think the same. Belladonna's voice does not seem like your normal thrash style, but I think his voice is a reason why I'm liking it.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 05:55:14 AM: :lol

I think I will revert until your roulette. That was a pretty ordinary 5000th post ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 29, 2016, 06:22:01 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 29, 2016, 04:08:50 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 09:01:12 PM
Might save Armored Saint for the roulette. :tup

That's a good move.
Armored Saint Round!!

Guess I better start listening to them then.
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Post by: Big Hath on March 29, 2016, 08:30:35 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 29, 2016, 04:08:50 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 28, 2016, 09:01:12 PM
Might save Armored Saint for the roulette. :tup

That's a good move.
Armored Saint Round!!

YES!
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Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on March 29, 2016, 08:36:31 AM: i just listened to the new Metal Church and I'm surprised and happy how strong it is. The multitude of high class riffage and the return and delivery of the metal god Mike Howe (he always reminds me of Michael Coons from Lääz Rockit, because they share a similar style / anybody remember them ?) tempt me to think of a modern metal classic. It just oozes of character and atmosphere.

You can hear how much fun and passion went into the album. Unlike a certain metal institution, where it seems like: "Aw. Shit. It's been already 8 years. Damn, we have to make a new album. Kirk, let's pretend you lost your phone. That'll buy us another year...

With 3 (thrash) metal juggernauts (Megadeth, Anthrax and Metal Church) releasing early in 2016 how do you rate them against each other ?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2016, 09:30:47 AM: For me it's

1) Megadeth

2) Metal Church
3) Anthrax
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 29, 2016, 09:33:53 AM: still need to check out that Metal Church
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Post by: TAC on March 29, 2016, 09:35:12 AM: Dystopia is probably the all around strongest of the three, though it still may not get the most replays from me.

All three albums do their respective bands justice and it's really a win-win-win for all.
Throw in last year's Slayer album as well.

Quote from: jjrock88 on March 29, 2016, 09:33:53 AM
still need to check out that Metal Church

Yes. Yes you do.
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 03:00:39 PM: I had a bit of a listen to the Metal Church too. It was okay, but didn't prick my ears like the Anthrax did.
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Post by: TAC on March 29, 2016, 03:22:25 PM: I'm not surprised to hear that. The Anthrax has a little more kick to it.

As much as I love the classic Howe Era, Metal Church was highly inconsistent. They're cool and all, but they are garage type classic heavy metal.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 29, 2016, 05:08:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 29, 2016, 03:22:25 PM
I'm not surprised to hear that. The Anthrax has a little more kick to it.

As much as I love the classic Howe Era, Metal Church was highly inconsistent. They're cool and all, but they are garage type classic heavy metal.

I never listened to Metal Church until I received their CD by accident. I kept it and was kind of into it, but they never blew me away. With a name like Metal Church, I expected so much more.
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2016, 05:11:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 29, 2016, 03:22:25 PM
I'm not surprised to hear that. The Anthrax has a little more kick to it.

As much as I love the classic Howe Era, Metal Church was highly inconsistent. They're cool and all, but they are garage type classic heavy metal.

This is a perfect description really.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 29, 2016, 07:39:54 PM: The noise complaints to the police would be off the charts if Metal Church was playing in a garage lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2016, 05:14:25 AM: Not if I lived next door. :metal
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Post by: TAC on March 30, 2016, 05:51:20 AM: Once I was jamming with my college roommate and a couple of his friends in New Jersey, and the police showed up. The cop said they had received a few calls, to which I replied, "Oh yeah, what do they want to hear?". The guy just laughed and went on his way.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 30, 2016, 06:49:57 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 30, 2016, 05:51:20 AM
Once I was jamming with my college roommate and a couple of his friends in New Jersey, and the police showed up. The cop said they had received a few calls, to which I replied, "Oh yeah, what do they want to hear?". The guy just laughed and went on his way.

:clap:
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 30, 2016, 04:50:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 30, 2016, 05:51:20 AM
Once I was jamming with my college roommate and a couple of his friends in New Jersey, and the police showed up. The cop said they had received a few calls, to which I replied, "Oh yeah, what do they want to hear?". The guy just laughed and went on his way.

:lol
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Post by: TAC on March 30, 2016, 06:35:14 PM: It's true.

JJ, checked out the Metal Church yet?
It's classic Howe Era stuff.
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2016, 09:23:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 30, 2016, 05:51:20 AM
Once I was jamming with my college roommate and a couple of his friends in New Jersey, and the police showed up. The cop said they had received a few calls, to which I replied, "Oh yeah, what do they want to hear?". The guy just laughed and went on his way.

:lol That's awesome.

I got a story too. Once me and some mates were drinking and jamming on some covers. We had this one mate who thought he could sing but he was fucking terrible. Anyway, he was singing with us and he had way too much to drink and was awful, yet we found it amusing. The cops eventually turned up and we stopped and said, "Oh shit, sorry, are we too loud?" The cop replied, "The neighbors said they are fine with the music, just the guy on the mic needs to shut the fuck up!" :rollin True story.
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Post by: TAC on March 31, 2016, 04:43:10 AM: Awesome!! :lol

So happy music has been in my life. It's for memories like these that makes it all worth it.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2016, 04:48:10 AM: I didn't realise you were a "muso" Tim. Other than your wall posters of Kip's Chapman Stick , what was your favoured instrument ?
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Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2016, 05:45:22 AM: (https://a.fod4.com/misc/1%20so%20cool%20kid%20fan.gif)
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 31, 2016, 06:33:56 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 31, 2016, 04:48:10 AM
I didn't realise you were a "muso" Tim. Other than your wall posters of Kip's Chapman Stick , what was your favoured instrument ?

:spitcoffee:
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 31, 2016, 07:22:48 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 31, 2016, 04:48:10 AM
I didn't realise you were a "muso" Tim. Other than your wall posters of Kip's Chapman Stick , what was your favoured instrument ?

Probably something you could bang (on) ;D
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Post by: TAC on March 31, 2016, 10:30:53 AM: Ha ha very funny. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on March 31, 2016, 01:59:13 PM: My neighbour several years ago came home from the pub at 2am and started playing his tuba :loser:
We discovered that my guitar and amp were much louder and he didn't do it again. Well, it was either that or the threat of where I would shove his tuba should he be silly enough to do it again.
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Post by: Big Hath on March 31, 2016, 02:14:10 PM: reminds me of college when one of my friends lived next door to someone in the dorm that played hip hop fairly loudly. His response was to place the speakers of his stereo against the wall pointed at the dorm next door and blast Van Halen at full volume.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 31, 2016, 02:36:21 PM: Sometimes it has to be done :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 31, 2016, 06:13:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 30, 2016, 06:35:14 PM
It's true.

JJ, checked out the Metal Church yet?
It's classic Howe Era stuff.

Yup checking it out. You're right, classic Howe era material!!
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Post by: TAC on March 31, 2016, 06:57:21 PM: I'm very happy with it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 31, 2016, 07:10:33 PM: hopefully they stick around together and make more albums
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Post by: bl5150 on April 01, 2016, 10:33:00 AM: Howe sounding awesome live

https://youtu.be/mRKxMQHvMUQ
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 01, 2016, 02:27:41 PM: Does anyone know its taken so long for Howe to return to the band. I know Metal Church went through a few different singers in the last 15 years or so and it just seems like Howe fits the band perfectly.
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Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2016, 05:54:45 AM: Check out this fucking tragic Blaze Bayley clip boys to brighten up your day;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCXpqkK8i1Y&feature=youtu.be

The song is actually quite solid and has a nice VX1 feel to it IMO, but the video is just pure gold! Haven't checked it out yet but I might have too, some good melodies.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2016, 07:44:58 AM: The song is okay I suppose but that video :lol - produced by Nigel Tufnel ;D
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Post by: Kwyjibo on April 04, 2016, 08:23:06 AM: Haven't seen pictures or videos of him since he left Maiden, so when did he turn into a U.D.O. lookalike? What happened to the relatively handsome young man, was he cursed by an evil witch?
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Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2016, 03:04:55 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 04, 2016, 08:23:06 AM
Haven't seen pictures or videos of him since he left Maiden, so when did he turn into a U.D.O. lookalike? What happened to the relatively handsome young man, was he cursed by an evil witch?

The curse of Father Time. And a pretty rough trot over the years too.

Quote from: bl5150 on April 04, 2016, 07:44:58 AM
The song is okay I suppose but that video :lol - produced by Nigel Tufnel ;D

:lol

I think it's quite a well done song.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 05, 2016, 10:24:59 AM: what do you figure the budget was for that bad boy?
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Post by: Lowdz on April 05, 2016, 12:47:30 PM: That voice is still bland and monotonous.
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Post by: Big Hath on April 05, 2016, 12:56:47 PM: If I remember correctly, I didn't rate any songs as must listens on that album when I went through it recently. Of course that was one listen only.
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Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 02:11:55 PM: It definitely doesn't sound like he'll ever get back to the quality of Silicon Messiah or Tenth Dimension.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 05, 2016, 02:29:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 02:11:55 PM
It definitely doesn't sound like he'll ever get back to the quality of Silicon Messiah or Tenth Dimension.

those are classics!
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Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 02:49:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 05, 2016, 02:29:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 02:11:55 PM
It definitely doesn't sound like he'll ever get back to the quality of Silicon Messiah or Tenth Dimension.

those are classics!

Indeed they are. Amazing albums.
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Post by: TAC on April 05, 2016, 03:04:50 PM: My favorite is Promise And Terror. The 4 song suite at the end about his wife's death is chilling.
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Post by: TAC on April 05, 2016, 03:41:45 PM: New Flots!

https://bravewords.com/news/flotsam-and-jetsam-new-album-formats-detailed

Their last album was OK and the one before not so much, but I am looking forward to this one. I have a feeling it is going to be pretty good.
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Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 04:14:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2016, 03:04:50 PM
My favorite is Promise And Terror. The 4 song suite at the end about his wife's death is chilling.

That's a dark and underrated album from him, really good. The Man Who Would Not Die is brutal too, love that one.

Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2016, 03:41:45 PM
New Flots!

https://bravewords.com/news/flotsam-and-jetsam-new-album-formats-detailed

Their last album was OK and the one before not so much, but I am looking forward to this one. I have a feeling it is going to be pretty good.

Don't know much from them at all.
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Post by: TAC on April 05, 2016, 04:14:57 PM: Good. Let's keep it that way! ;)
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Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 04:16:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2016, 04:14:57 PM
Good. Let's keep it that way! ;)

No arguments here.
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Post by: TAC on April 05, 2016, 04:26:35 PM: Actually, they were one of my favorite bands back in the day. They were on that second level, but their first 6 albums are all excellent.
On my Roulette list for you. We'll see how it goes.
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Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 05:05:11 PM: Look forward to it mate.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2016, 02:14:51 AM: I don't know a lot about F&J either. They sound like they are a cool band
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Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 03:09:28 AM: I have tried with Flotsam & Jetsam but aside from a song here and there I was never able to really connect with their style.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on April 06, 2016, 03:39:01 AM: One of the (sadly) many bands I know by name but not by songs.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 03:44:21 AM: I imagine a lot of people (myself included) would never have checked them out if not for the Metallica connection
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Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2016, 05:15:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 03:44:21 AM
I imagine a lot of people (myself included) would never have checked them out if not for the Metallica connection

They were a band I always meant to check out due to that, but still never did.
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Post by: TAC on April 06, 2016, 05:53:21 AM: Jason only played on that first album. I college roommate actually had their first album, so that's where I heard of them. We saw them on the Doomsday tour, but they had a fill-in bassist. I forget the guy's name.

But then Troy Gregory joined and they recorded No Place For Disgrace and When The Storm Comes Down, two of my all time favorite metal albums, and I'll take both over anything that Slayer, Megadeth, or Anthrax has done.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2016, 08:07:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 03:09:28 AM
I have tried with Flotsam & Jetsam but aside from a song here and there I was never able to really connect with their style.

:iagree:
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Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 09:22:14 AM: Interesting reading the diverse reaction to this Babymetal mob who seem to be getting bigger and bigger worldwide - on Colbert now.

Opinions range from brilliant to absolute turd sandwich. I am tending toward the latter :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZApf9c8Tes
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Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 09:34:38 AM: A couple of other news tidbits of interest to some around here:

- Schenker has a live Temple of Rock DVD on the way

- Stream of Passion have called it a day
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Post by: TAC on April 06, 2016, 09:37:47 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 09:34:38 AM
- Schenker has a live Temple of Rock DVD on the way

:metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2016, 09:46:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 09:22:14 AM
Interesting reading the diverse reaction to this Babymetal mob who seem to be getting bigger and bigger worldwide - on Colbert now.

Opinions range from brilliant to absolute turd sandwich. I am tending toward the latter :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZApf9c8Tes

I've heard this one before (surprised I remembered it from only one listen). It's so strange, like they took pop, death metal, and every Japanese horror movie and stuck it in a blender. There are bits I liked, but not really something I'd listen to. :lol
Still, if this is any indication, I'll take Japan's manufactured music over America's manufactured music.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2016, 12:45:28 PM: I'll second Brent's turd
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Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2016, 01:20:03 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 03:09:28 AM
I have tried with Flotsam & Jetsam but aside from a song here and there I was never able to really connect with their style.

Back in the day I assumed they were a thrash band and I wouldn't like it so never bothered to check them out. Last year I youtubed them as they came up in the suggestions. Nah, didn't do anything for me.
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2016, 02:26:31 PM: That link is the first thing I've ever heard of Baby Metal. Turned it off after a minute, just novelty crap IMO.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 08, 2016, 09:04:15 AM: Here ya go Tim - new Flotsam & Jetsam song called.................................................

Iron Maiden :rollin

https://youtu.be/fQ77YEzem_I

I actually like that better than most of their stuff....although that's not hard to achieve. :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 08, 2016, 09:08:54 AM: This is the only Flotsam and Jetsam song I've ever heard, and it doesn't leave a great impression. A song called Iron Maiden with some wannabe Bruce Dickinson vocals. :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on April 08, 2016, 09:41:25 AM: Wow , just listened through my phone at lunch and it's awesome! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 08, 2016, 02:45:24 PM: This song is much better than i expected.........ass kicker!!
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Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2016, 05:35:45 PM: Not listening.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 09, 2016, 09:48:48 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 08, 2016, 09:41:25 AM
Wow , just listened through my phone at lunch and it's awesome! :metal

It's very "iron maiden". Not bad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 05:36:08 AM: New Jorn cover album promo-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHK2JXL4HqU

Hm. I always like Jorn more when he's doing someone else's songs, so I'll maybe check the album out, out of curiosity. Some interesting song choices, and some more typical ones too.
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Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 05:45:24 AM: Boom! haha.

Yeah, I like the sound of it as I said in the other thread. Was gonna post it here but the melodic rock thread was the first one I saw.

Would have liked a different Farnsy song, but what do you do. Great to see Farnsy get some recognition. Would love Jorn to do some Barnsy too.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2016, 05:46:21 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 05:45:24 AM

Would have liked a different Farnsy song

WTF - wasn't going to bother but curiosity got me now :lol
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Post by: Bolsters on April 12, 2016, 05:49:48 AM: Strange hearing Jorn singing Running Up That Hill, but nowhere near as strange as hearing him sing The Voice. :rollin
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 05:49:52 AM: I'm not too familiar with Farnham, so I'm ok with him going for the obvious choice. I dug what Jorn has done with it. Here's the tracklist for anyone interested.

1. I Know There's Something Going On
2. Running Up That Hill
3. Rev On The Red Line
4. You're The Voice
5. Live To Win
6. Don't Stop Believin'
7. Killer Queen
8. Hotel California
9. Rainbow In The Dark
10. The Final Frontier
11. Stormbringer
12. Die Young

Surprised he hadn't already done Rainbow in the Dark, although Stormbringer is an old cover. It will be interesting to hear him take on Perry and Mercury.
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Post by: Bolsters on April 12, 2016, 05:56:13 AM: Don't Stop Believin' will be interesting awell. This might be alright, for a covers album.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on April 12, 2016, 05:56:33 AM: Jorn is a beast of a singer but do we really need another covers album?
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Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 06:04:06 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 12, 2016, 05:56:33 AM
Jorn is a beast of a singer but do we really need another covers album?

With some of the nice song selections here, I'm gonna go with a yes.

Quote from: bl5150 on April 12, 2016, 05:46:21 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 05:45:24 AM

Would have liked a different Farnsy song

WTF - wasn't going to bother but curiosity got me now :lol

haha, yeah I nearly shit when I started to hear him since You're the Voice.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 06:11:48 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 12, 2016, 05:56:33 AM
Jorn is a beast of a singer but do we really need another covers album?

Beats the alternative of hearing his original material. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 06:19:50 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 06:11:48 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 12, 2016, 05:56:33 AM
Jorn is a beast of a singer but do we really need another covers album?

Beats the alternative of hearing his original material. :lol

Only the last few, his early stuff is all quality.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 06:21:48 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 06:19:50 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 06:11:48 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 12, 2016, 05:56:33 AM
Jorn is a beast of a singer but do we really need another covers album?

Beats the alternative of hearing his original material. :lol

Only the last few, his early stuff is all quality.

Excluding his cover albums, I only have Lonely Are the Brave and Spirit Black, haven't bothered with anything since because the singles all sounded the same. Any recommendation?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2016, 06:23:54 AM: I can't even remember what i have from Jorn but there's one called The Gathering which is like a "best of" from his early work - might be worth a shot Blob.
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Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 06:25:05 AM: The Gathering is a good collection.

Both Worldchanger and Out to Every Nation are bloody stellar albums IMO.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 06:27:13 AM: I'll check it out. I don't think I've heard anything from his earlier stuff. I've always liked Jorn's voice, and it's a shame I've liked so little of his music.
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Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 06:28:01 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 06:27:13 AM
I'll check it out. I don't think I've heard anything from his earlier stuff. I've always liked Jorn's voice, and it's a shame I've liked so little of his music.

Try either the two I said or the safe bet of The Gathering that Brent mentioned.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2016, 08:20:40 AM: Traveller wasn't bad... though, anything would have been better than Bring Heavy Rock to the Land - that album was turd.

I'd rank them:

Out to Every Nation
Lonely are the Brave
Worldchanger
Starfire
The Duke
Spirit Black
Traveller
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 12, 2016, 09:04:15 AM: I only have "Dio" by Jorn; which is another great covers album
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2016, 09:14:50 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 12, 2016, 09:04:15 AM
I only have "Dio" by Jorn; which is another great covers album

Sounds like an opportunity
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 09:15:49 AM: The Dio covers album was solid. Still prefer the playing and production on the original songs by a mile, but Jorn can definitely do justice to Dio.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 12, 2016, 02:05:49 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 12, 2016, 09:14:50 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on April 12, 2016, 09:04:15 AM
I only have "Dio" by Jorn; which is another great covers album

Sounds like an opportunity

I know I should check out other Jorn material............................ ;)
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Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 02:25:00 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 12, 2016, 09:14:50 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on April 12, 2016, 09:04:15 AM
I only have "Dio" by Jorn; which is another great covers album

Sounds like an opportunity

(https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Michael-Scott-angry-stare-at-toby.gif)
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 12:49:44 AM: It's pretty funny watching him sing pop while his facial expressions indicate he may be singing thrash :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2016, 03:27:55 AM: Jorn's facial expressions are priceless. He has that I'mhavingsexandtakingashit look.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 03:38:29 AM: Whenever he gets that "Fuck I am mean (and constipated)"look on his face , I want to play this for him :rollin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iklrkshmm5g
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2016, 05:10:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 03:38:29 AM
Whenever he gets that "Fuck I am mean (and constipated)"look on his face , I want to play this for him :rollin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iklrkshmm5g

Fuck yeah, you should have saved this for my roulette!

This is weird, it's like they have no idea what they are trying to be. The guitarist to Jorn's right is seriously fucking annoying. Does he think he's in the Bay City Rollers or some shit?
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2016, 05:15:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 03:38:29 AM
Whenever he gets that "Fuck I am mean (and constipated)"look on his face , I want to play this for him :rollin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iklrkshmm5g

(https://replygif.net/i/744.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2016, 05:25:42 AM: Another classic Jorn cover;

(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full_node/public/field/image/jorn-heavyrockradio.jpg?itok=djb8RxjZ)

A badass crow headed human DJ. :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 07:48:05 AM: with a constipated Jorn t-shirt :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2016, 07:53:41 AM: Yo Jorndawg, I heard you liked the album cover, so I made an album cover with the album cover on it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2016, 08:22:14 AM: I'd like to know what shirt Jorn is wearing on the Jorn shirt on the Crow.
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2016, 01:19:13 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 07:48:05 AM
with a constipated Jorn t-shirt :lol

Fuck yeah, didn't see that. :metal
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Post by: Stadler on April 13, 2016, 02:00:33 PM: That did nothing for me. Good voice, but seemed a little one-dimensional to me.

And I'd like to know how he didn't fall down the stairs (around 0:45 in). :)
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Post by: bl5150 on April 15, 2016, 12:19:12 AM: Big 24 hrs for new releases .....amongst others Treat, Dynazty, The Defiants, Ace Frehley, Thunderstone. I'll hopefully get a chance to check out most of them over the weekend.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 15, 2016, 12:39:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 15, 2016, 12:19:12 AM
Big 24 hrs for new releases .....amongst others Treat, Dynazty, The Defiants, Ace Frehley, Thunderstone. I'll hopefully get a chance to check out most of them over the weekend.

Might check out the Defiants, can't remember if/what I've heard from Treat, lol Ace Frehley, and haven't heard of the other two. Be sure to give us the DTF review.
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Post by: Bolsters on April 15, 2016, 12:41:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 15, 2016, 12:19:12 AM
Big 24 hrs for new releases .....amongst others Treat, Dynazty, The Defiants, Ace Frehley, Thunderstone. I'll hopefully get a chance to check out most of them over the weekend.
Dynazty and Thunderstone are up on Spotify already, haven't checked the others.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 15, 2016, 01:02:44 AM: For those who like Doogie White there is also a new album out by La Paz.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 15, 2016, 05:39:39 AM: Listening to Thunderstone / Apocalypse Again right now. It's off to a good start.
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Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2016, 06:07:45 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 15, 2016, 12:19:12 AM
Big 24 hrs for new releases .....amongst others Treat, Dynazty, The Defiants, Ace Frehley, Thunderstone. I'll hopefully get a chance to check out most of them over the weekend.

Looking forward to The Defiants, and the new Dynazty song has grown on me even though it's nothing new. Looking forward to it. Will check the Treat and Thunderstone too.
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Post by: Bolsters on April 15, 2016, 06:10:10 AM: I've given the new Thunderstone a few spins now. It's not bad, but I can't see myself ever rating it higher than Burning/Tools/Evolution. Good to have them back though.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 15, 2016, 08:40:03 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 15, 2016, 06:07:45 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 15, 2016, 12:19:12 AM
Big 24 hrs for new releases .....amongst others Treat, Dynazty, The Defiants, Ace Frehley, Thunderstone. I'll hopefully get a chance to check out most of them over the weekend.

Looking forward to The Defiants, and the new Dynazty song has grown on me even though it's nothing new. Looking forward to it. Will check the Treat and Thunderstone too.

That pretty much sums up the album. You could play this or Renatus for me, and I wouldn't know which is which. Enjoyable stuff none-the-less.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 15, 2016, 10:03:37 AM: Half way through the zdynazty and its ok. First couple of tracks I didn't rate but it picked up from there. Those dance music-y keyboards don't do it for me and I prefer when they are more melodic than heavy.

New Ace Frehley was ok. For a covers album.
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Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2016, 04:30:50 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 15, 2016, 08:40:03 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 15, 2016, 06:07:45 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 15, 2016, 12:19:12 AM
Big 24 hrs for new releases .....amongst others Treat, Dynazty, The Defiants, Ace Frehley, Thunderstone. I'll hopefully get a chance to check out most of them over the weekend.

Looking forward to The Defiants, and the new Dynazty song has grown on me even though it's nothing new. Looking forward to it. Will check the Treat and Thunderstone too.

That pretty much sums up the album. You could play this or Renatus for me, and I wouldn't know which is which. Enjoyable stuff none-the-less.

Figured that. Still can't believe how they blatantly copied that new track out of some of the tracks on Retanus, unreal.
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Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2016, 05:18:45 PM: Gonna go out today and finally pick up that new Anthrax that I have been meaning to do now I have some more time. I've also seen I'm pretty sure a double of We've Come For You All and Greater of Two Evils for like $20 last time I went to JB. I had a bit of a listen to We've Come For You All and can see why Tim doesn't really dig it, it's okay, but listening to Greater of Two Evils, it's fucking killer. Gonna pick it up too just for that I think.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2016, 05:34:41 PM: You must pick up Greater of Two Evils. You must
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Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2016, 05:50:53 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2016, 05:34:41 PM
You must pick up Greater of Two Evils. You must

Yeah man, and if I get We've Come For You in the same package it's a win win. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2016, 06:24:47 PM: I can't remember if you mentioned this before or not, but did you pick up Spreading the Disease? If not, that should override any other Anthrax purchase IMO
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Post by: TAC on April 15, 2016, 06:52:40 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2016, 05:34:41 PM
You must pick up Greater of Two Evils. You must

Yes it's awesome.

Quote from: wolfking on April 15, 2016, 05:18:45 PM
Gonna go out today and finally pick up that new Anthrax that I have been meaning to do now I have some more time. I've also seen I'm pretty sure a double of We've Come For You All and Greater of Two Evils for like $20 last time I went to JB. I had a bit of a listen to We've Come For You All and can see why Tim doesn't really dig it, it's okay, but listening to Greater of Two Evils, it's fucking killer. Gonna pick it up too just for that I think.
Lots of cool people love WCFYA. I just find it one dimensional. Plus we waited so long for it.
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Post by: TAC on April 15, 2016, 07:18:06 PM: Speaking of Anthrax, I had a great listen to the new one driving down here. What an awesome album. Faves are Monster In The End and Breathing Lightning.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2016, 07:23:52 PM: Yeah Breathing Lightning is my favorite by far!
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Post by: bl5150 on April 15, 2016, 09:09:48 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 15, 2016, 04:30:50 PM
Retanus

No need for that ;D
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Post by: Kwyjibo on April 16, 2016, 01:52:54 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2016, 06:24:47 PM
I can't remember if you mentioned this before or not, but did you pick up Spreading the Disease? If not, that should override any other Anthrax purchase IMO

I approve of this. :metal Essential Anthrax record.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 16, 2016, 02:24:51 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2016, 07:23:52 PM
Yeah Breathing Lightning is my favorite by far!

I thought they were covering Bon Jovi when I heard the intro...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 16, 2016, 04:10:19 AM: Nothing official yet but I'm told Queensryche will be touring Oz in October :yeahbaby:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 16, 2016, 12:53:23 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 16, 2016, 04:10:19 AM
Nothing official yet but I'm told Queensryche will be touring Oz in October :yeahbaby:

Hoping for a full Canadian tour finally as well.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 03:00:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 16, 2016, 04:10:19 AM
Nothing official yet but I'm told Queensryche will be touring Oz in October :yeahbaby:

Brisbane better be on the fucking schedule.

Yeah, I'm loving this new Anthrax, good to have the cd and put it in the car. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on April 20, 2016, 04:33:29 PM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/black-country-communion-to-return-in-2017/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/black-country-communion-to-return-in-2017/)

This is great news!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2016, 06:20:50 PM: This is a surprise. They split on such bitter terms it seems, let's see how long it lasts for. They were a solid outfit though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 21, 2016, 09:23:09 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 20, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
This is a surprise. They split on such bitter terms it seems, let's see how long it lasts for. They were a solid outfit though.

I'm quite happy with Bonamassa's solo stuf to be bothered tbh. And I can't stand Glenn Hughes' voice. Or Glenn Hughes come to think of it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 21, 2016, 10:50:11 AM: Found their debut underwhelming. Wasn't bad, but didn't live up to expectations either.

I'm also not that fond of Glenn Hughes. Everybody tells me how great he is. But everytime I listen to his stuff, I find it mediocre and his voice can be annoying too. Burn is the only great track with him that I know.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2016, 07:54:53 PM: BCC is more like blah blah blah.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 22, 2016, 07:57:18 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 22, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
BCC is more like blah blah blah.

heel Tim is back!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2016, 08:03:12 PM: Hell yes!! :metal :lol

Vacation listening recap coming Monday.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 23, 2016, 10:11:30 PM: My holiday listening:

-wolfking roulette playlist
-jjrock roulette playlist
-Bolsters roulette playlist

pretty awful music actually :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on April 23, 2016, 10:29:18 PM: BBC, not a fan of the studio albums, but the Live In Europe DVD is great.
Glenn is also a very underrated bass player, very solid live.
Joe is awesome, and I am not usually a fan of the blues or blues guitarists, but he really
touches me, even saw him sweep picking in a song.
Joe's voice is great too and works well with Glenn's.
It will be interesting to hear what they come up with on the next album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 24, 2016, 02:39:16 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on April 23, 2016, 10:29:18 PM
BBC, not a fan of the studio albums, but the Live In Europe DVD is great.
Glenn is also a very underrated bass player, very solid live.
Joe is awesome, and I am not usually a fan of the blues or blues guitarists, but he really
touches me, even saw him sweep picking in a song.
Joe's voice is great too and works well with Glenn's.
It will be interesting to hear what they come up with on the next album.

He has a live album where he covers Yes' Starship Trooper and Wurm :omg: not your typical blues fare :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 24, 2016, 05:54:38 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/accepts-wolf-hoffmann-to-release-headbangers-symphony-solo-album-in-july/

Could be interesting. Didn't kow he already had one classical style stolo album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 24, 2016, 11:38:25 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 24, 2016, 05:54:38 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/accepts-wolf-hoffmann-to-release-headbangers-symphony-solo-album-in-july/

Could be interesting. Didn't kow he already had one classical style stolo album.

Not sure what to make of that. Like you said, could be interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 24, 2016, 12:33:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 24, 2016, 05:54:38 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/accepts-wolf-hoffmann-to-release-headbangers-symphony-solo-album-in-july/

Could be interesting. Didn't kow he already had one classical style stolo album.

I have that somewhere. Not as great as I expected.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 24, 2016, 06:04:22 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 24, 2016, 12:33:50 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 24, 2016, 05:54:38 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/accepts-wolf-hoffmann-to-release-headbangers-symphony-solo-album-in-july/

Could be interesting. Didn't kow he already had one classical style stolo album.

I have that somewhere. Not as great as I expected.

That sucks. I would have liked a straightforward heavy metal album with guests and shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on April 26, 2016, 12:25:18 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 16, 2016, 04:10:19 AM
Nothing official yet but I'm told Queensryche will be touring Oz in October :yeahbaby:

Brisbane better be on the fucking schedule.

Yeah, I'm loving this new Anthrax, good to have the cd and put it in the car. :metal

Queensryche Australian Tour Dates:

Tuesday 11th October – BRISBANE, The Triffid

Thursday 13th October – ADELAIDE, Fowlers Live

Friday 14th October – MELBOURNE, Prince Bandroom

Saturday 15th October – SYDNEY, Manning Bar

Ticketing

Pre-Sale: 28th April 9:00am - 1st May 5:00pm

GA Sale: 2nd May 9:00am

From: https://www.metropolistouring.com/queensryche
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 26, 2016, 12:33:04 AM: Nice. The Prince in Melbourne holds about 900 to give an idea on the crowds they are expecting.

If the promoter knows his shit (and there's some shockers around atm) this should sell out well in advance. At least I hope ....... Steel Panther play in front of 5 times that in Melbourne :lol

EDIT That's the guys that did DT so should be well promoted. Just shows you how QR have fallen vs DT. DT played to around 3000 in Melbourne
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 26, 2016, 12:39:28 AM: I think Manning Bar holds about 500 people, if I recall. It's not a huge room. I saw Arch Enemy there a few years ago. The main venue up from that is the Enmore Theatre which holds about 1500 (great venue). There are a few odd venues in between those sizes though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 26, 2016, 03:08:21 AM: The damage done to the Queensryche name was quite high. They are still turning things around but I don't think there is any question they now deserve to be playing to more then a few hundred people.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2016, 05:16:24 AM: (https://memecrunch.com/meme/2BKXP/yes-motherfucker/image.png?w=400&c=1)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2016, 07:23:10 PM: This sounds and looks a bit more like Skid Row

https://youtu.be/6Ut0QQidiuE

Gotta admire their stubbornness - they could be out on the road with Bach and GnR making $$$$$$$$$

Got my Queensryche tix this morning :2metal:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 27, 2016, 09:16:34 PM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 28, 2016, 01:33:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 27, 2016, 07:23:10 PM
This sounds and looks a bit more like Skid Row

https://youtu.be/6Ut0QQidiuE

Gotta admire their stubbornness - they could be out on the road with Bach and GnR making $$$$$$$$$

I'd love to hear Skid Row do an album with Sebastian Bach. Haven't cared for anything either one of them has done in the 20 years since they split.
That sounded good. The singer was struggling a little on the highest notes, but he was doing his damndest Bach impression, and fit in well. The band was sounding great too, but do we really need a 12 minute long version of Monkey Business? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 28, 2016, 08:45:48 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 27, 2016, 07:23:10 PM
Gotta admire their stubbornness - they could be out on the road with Bach and GnR making $$$$$$$$$

Do we know why it didn't work out and who's to blame for it?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on April 28, 2016, 09:11:56 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 28, 2016, 08:45:48 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 27, 2016, 07:23:10 PM
Gotta admire their stubbornness - they could be out on the road with Bach and GnR making $$$$$$$$$

Do we know why it didn't work out and who's to blame for it?
The main issue is between Rachel Bolan and Bach. We all know Bach was a complete douche back in the day. But, you know what, people grow up (at least a little, hopefully). And, Bolan has absolutely no interest in patching things up. He doesn't even refer to Bach by name in interviews.

I would call it stupidity over stubbornness. Try and talk it out. Best case scenario, they work things out and increase their draw considerably. Worst case, Bach is still a douche and they keep going with whatever cr@ppy singer they want, playing to 25-50 people a night. But, if it does work, the first show they play, they're playing in front of more people than they've seen in the last 6 months combined.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: JustJen on April 28, 2016, 01:34:11 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 26, 2016, 03:08:21 AM
The damage done to the Queensryche name was quite high. They are still turning things around but I don't think there is any question they now deserve to be playing to more then a few hundred people.

Absolutely. They put on an AMAZING show last summer. I brought my 12 year old and we had a blast right up against the barricade. They are SO great about catering to the fans. They have a great social media person, whoever it is, who made a point to "like" my photos I took and tagged them in, and commented on at least one of them. I was excited, not gonna lie. Todd LaTorre is spectacular and I feel bad that I was hesitant to go see the "new" lineup. Great, great show. Can't wait to get a chance to see them again, whenever they come back around. They even play to the fans - as in, when they see you trying to get a photo they step right up and pose for you and whatnot. :lol :hat I wish I didn't have a body guard's face in every shot I Took or I'd post some.

edit - example:

(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/justjen/michaelwiltonqueensryche_zpsahmcszxs.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on April 28, 2016, 02:59:14 PM: When I saw them back in December, Todd went so far as to take the people's phones/cameras and snap some pictures of himself and the band and then hand the device back. He seems like a very cool guy... and a phenomenal singer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 28, 2016, 11:15:01 PM: Well we all know what happens when Tate gets hold of your phone.

Shows again how good a decision it was to replace him and how bad a decision it was to keep him for so long.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on April 29, 2016, 02:11:57 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 28, 2016, 11:15:01 PM
Well we all know what happens when Tate gets hold of your phone.

Shows again how good a decision it was to replace him and how bad a decision it was to keep him for so long.
And, good news... I saw a recent headline that Tate would never go back to QR. Phew! I was worried for a second there. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 29, 2016, 02:14:48 PM: I feel so lucky that I got to see like the 3rd or 4th show with Todd here in Toronto 3 years ago. Was such an amazing night. Todd is a class act all the way, and a fantabulous performer. He did that 'take the phone from a fan' thing that night too - I'll bet he does it a lot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 05, 2016, 11:16:48 PM: The vocalist from Voodoo Circle has left the band. :( :( Just when they'd released one of my favourite hard rock albums in a long time.

The only answer is to get Jorn.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2016, 11:56:27 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 05, 2016, 11:16:48 PM
The vocalist from Voodoo Circle has left the band. :( :( Just when they'd released one of my favourite hard rock albums in a long time.

The only answer is to get Jorn.

Fuck, that's a big blow. Depending on who they get, I may even lose interest in them now. Major blow. Jorn could definitely work.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 06, 2016, 12:00:36 AM: Vocalist is a huge blow. I'm very particular on vocalists, and he was a big part of their sound, especially with the Whitesnake vibe they have going. Even if the music is still good, if they don't have a vocalist who can pull of that style, it's going to fall short.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2016, 12:01:57 AM: Yeah, especially when you're doing stuff that's so generic.

Have you heard any of Readman's stuff Blob?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 06, 2016, 12:05:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 06, 2016, 12:01:57 AM
Yeah, especially when you're doing stuff that's so generic.

:lol Payback for my Vega comments? Or was that a general statement?

And what stuff do you mean in particular? I've heard a song or two, but not much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2016, 12:12:15 AM: I thought you'd take it like that, but I totally meant it. :lol As you say, the singer carries the band and when you're doing something like the style they are that's been done a million times, the singer makes or breaks it IMO.

He is most known for his work with Pink Cream 69 and has done like 10 albums with them. I'm not familiar with all of them but I like the last one Ceremonial, In10sity and Thunderdome is highly rated too. Electrified is solid too, as the the live album from a few years ago.

He also sung in neoclassical prog metal band Adagio on their first two albums which are solid too.

You might like his solo album though, features Alex from Voodoo Circle on guitar too. That's a really good melodic hard rock album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 06, 2016, 12:21:28 AM: I'll check it out. I've only listened to one or two recent Pink Cream songs that didn't do much for me, and an early one before he joined that was ok. Nothing I like nearly as much as the most recent Voodoo Circle.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on May 06, 2016, 05:05:15 AM: Yes ! New Denner/Shermann album in june.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dennershermann-feat-mercyful-fate-guitarists-masters-of-evil-album-due-in-june/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 07, 2016, 08:46:29 PM: Quote from: Heavy Metal Hippie on May 06, 2016, 05:05:15 AM
Yes ! New Denner/Shermann album in june.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dennershermann-feat-mercyful-fate-guitarists-masters-of-evil-album-due-in-june/

Good stuff :metal

Early (LQ) footage of Axl/DC ............based on that he's doing a pretty good job of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=XymxcG7pdqI&app=desktop

And hopefully something like this will eventually become "our" version of a genuine Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.................look at all the glaring ommisions.........Diana Ross, LLCoolJ , NWA........

Paul Stanley (KISS), Glenn Hughes (DEEP PURPLE, BLACK SABBATH, BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION), Carmine Appice (ROD STEWART, OZZY OSBOURNE, VANILLA FUDGE), Rudy Sarzo (OZZY OSBOURNE, QUIET RIOT, DIO), Vinny Appice (BLACK SABBATH, DIO, HEAVEN & HELL) and Steve Vai (FRANK ZAPPA, DAVID LEE ROTH) will be honored at the Heavy Rock Icon Awards, set to take place May 22 at the Whisky A Go Go in West Hollywood, California.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 07, 2016, 08:51:32 PM: I gotta say I'm quite impressed with Axl's performance with ACDC.

A studio album might be interesting
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 07, 2016, 10:55:12 PM: I heard the leaked rehearsals and Axl was sounding good, and I was enjoying the hell out of this live clip. They're back in standard tuning, and he's singing the studio melodies, which Johnson hasn't been about to do in 25+ years if ever. It's not perfect, but that roughness around the edges is part of that style, and he really is the perfect fit vocally for this material.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2016, 02:28:24 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2016, 08:51:32 PM
I gotta say I'm quite impressed with Axl's performance with ACDC.

A studio album might be interesting

With Axl's recorded they'd be dead before that came out.
He sounded good. Fits his voice pretty well.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2016, 02:32:21 AM: A year 2030 release is still realistic
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: JustJen on May 08, 2016, 05:36:29 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2016, 02:32:21 AM
A year 2030 release is still realistic

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2016, 05:37:05 AM: Quote from: Heavy Metal Hippie on May 06, 2016, 05:05:15 AM
Yes ! New Denner/Shermann album in june.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dennershermann-feat-mercyful-fate-guitarists-masters-of-evil-album-due-in-june/

Shit just got real. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on May 08, 2016, 10:00:21 AM: Somebody might miss K.D. in the line up, but the vocalist that can be heard on Satan's Tomb and, if I'm not mistaken, is on the upcoming album, fits just fine.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 17, 2016, 09:32:15 PM: Now that the huge run of roulettes is gradually coming to an end I can spend a bit more time in here. If anyone is still interested I am putting the finishing touches to (and scraping the cobwebs off) the podcast I started very early in the year. Pretty much having to learn the caper all over again :lol

Should have something for you before the end of the week.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 17, 2016, 09:40:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 17, 2016, 09:32:15 PM
Now that the huge run of roulettes is gradually coming to an end I can spend a bit more time in here. If anyone is still interested I am putting the finishing touches to (and scraping the cobwebs off) the podcast I started very early in the year. Pretty much having to learn the caper all over again :lol

Should have something for you before the end of the week.

(https://i.imgur.com/1lMJa.gif)

'bout damned time.
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2016, 09:45:04 PM: ^^^

what he said. But I probably won't listen until my roulette is finished. :'(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 18, 2016, 12:05:04 AM: I am pretty much rouletted out.

Is it ok if I move back into this thread full time Brent lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 18, 2016, 12:34:53 AM: Nice. Need to sort out the downloading issue as I missed the last one.
These roulettes have shown there is a load of great stuff out there I've never heard a sniff of.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 18, 2016, 02:07:55 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 18, 2016, 12:05:04 AM
I am pretty much rouletted out.

Is it ok if I move back into this thread full time Brent lol

Sure - I am doing the same. :hifive: With jingle, Evermind, Bolsters, JJ, wolfking -and the Winger Roulette a while back- I have covered the roulettes I really wanted to play (I might come out of retirement for Paul ;D ) and most of the best tracks would've made the podcasts anyway , so that's how I will "roulette" from here and it's up to you if you want to "host" me :)

I literally have thousands of either:

1) albums I have purchased and not properly listened to , or
2) albums that I know I want but haven't got onto yet

so there is plenty of new material to sort through , something I have put on hold for "roulette listening" the last few months.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2016, 05:18:20 AM: I'm with you Brent, plenty of stuff to go back and keep me occupied and obviously a shit ton of new stuff coming in weekly with the roulette.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2016, 05:26:19 AM: Surely this can't be as shit as his last one;

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/yngwiemalmsteenworldonfirecdcover.jpg)

June 1;

01. World On Fire
02. Sorcery
03. Abandon
04. Top Down, Foot Down
05. Lost In The Machine
06. Largo - EBM
07. No Rest For The Wicked
08. Soldier
09. Duf 1220
10. Abandon (Slight Return)
11. Nacht Musik

* Yngwie J. Malmsteen - Lead Guitar, Lead Vocals, Backing Vocals, Acoustic Guitar, Bass, Keyboards, Cello, Sitar
* Nick Marinovic - Additional Keyboards
* Mark Ellis - Drums

Malmsteen on vox again, Top Down, Foot Down?!? WTF? :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 18, 2016, 05:31:41 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 18, 2016, 12:34:53 AM
Nice. Need to sort out the downloading issue as I missed the last one.
These roulettes have shown there is a load of great stuff out there I've never heard a sniff of.

Hopefully it's also taught you that you need to sign up for one. Your the last of the cool kids not to do one. We got Tim to break, then Jay. We will break you.

You know you want to do it, as much as we want to do it to you. :eyebrows:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 18, 2016, 07:57:44 AM: Has Yngwie pissed off that many people that he can't get another lead singer?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 18, 2016, 08:20:51 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 18, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
Has Yngwie pissed off that many people that he can't get another lead singer?

More like the ego-train, it's his music so no one can sing it better than him. Album's probably produced by him also and it wouldn't surprise me if he's learning drums so that he doesn't have to rely on other people in the future.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on May 18, 2016, 09:02:35 AM: You know, I don't mind buying CDs if they're cheap - I've bought latest Axel because it was like $3 in the record store - but the only scenario I can see me getting this new Yngwie album is if they'll be handing it out for free.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 18, 2016, 09:16:47 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 18, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
Has Yngwie pissed off that many people that he can't get another lead singer?

Nope... he ate them all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Prog Snob on May 18, 2016, 11:52:39 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 18, 2016, 09:16:47 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 18, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
Has Yngwie pissed off that many people that he can't get another lead singer?

Nope... he ate them all.

Someone should just say yes already to save us from Yngwie singing himself. Gods, that's horrible.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 18, 2016, 02:52:16 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 18, 2016, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 18, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
Has Yngwie pissed off that many people that he can't get another lead singer?

More like the ego-train, it's his music so no one can sing it better than him. Album's probably produced by him also and it wouldn't surprise me if he's learning drums so that he doesn't have to rely on other people in the future.

He does already play drums apparently. Probably too energetic for him. There was a time I'd be all over a new Yngwie album. Not for the last 20 years though. I do not need to hear him sing ever again. He can't sing.

And as to the roulette thing, we'll see. Not in the best of moods to think about it - my football team have just thrown away the Europa League final after leading at half time. Going to play some non melodic rock :censored
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Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2016, 03:09:44 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 18, 2016, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 18, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
Has Yngwie pissed off that many people that he can't get another lead singer?

More like the ego-train, it's his music so no one can sing it better than him. Album's probably produced by him also and it wouldn't surprise me if he's learning drums so that he doesn't have to rely on other people in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckZtT_2DEfk
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 18, 2016, 04:16:37 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 18, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
And as to the roulette thing, we'll see. Not in the best of moods to think about it

Sign up... you'll have months to think about it.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 18, 2016, 11:50:38 PM: Alright, apparently Yngwie can play drums, makes me even wonder more why he still employs another drummer. I was never that wild about him but there was a time when his output was good. I even saw him in concert mid 90s and that gig was shit, shit, shit and shit. Since then nothing he has done could convince me and it's getting worse with each release.

Quote from: Lowdz on May 18, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Not in the best of moods to think about it - my football team have just thrown away the Europa League final after leading at half time. Going to play some non melodic rock :censored

I feel for you, that was really bad. How could they not win this thing after dominating the first half? I rooted for Liverpool (mainly because of Klopp) but to no avail, sadly.
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Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2016, 11:55:01 PM: IMO, it's only the last Yngwie album that was really really bad. The Ripper stuff was decent, well the first one was excellent, the second one, wasn't as good, but decent.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2016, 07:39:35 AM: The last Malmsteen album that I played regularly was The Seventh Sign . I have been meaning to check out the more recent ones but (like KISS) , for some reason I just can't be bothered , despite being a huge fan of earlier material ::)

Anyway.............finally it's done. Three hours + of aural stimulation awaits.........

https://mega.nz/#!uY800aIC!wauNkzX-lRcHE-5XqbeYmPMpHdA_1SKPZwe8Gos2pvs

It's a bit disjointed seeing as it was recorded in bits over a long period and I have flown through the editing with the priority on pace in the last 24 hrs . I'd forgotten that I had attempted some lame, tongue-in-cheek humour(for Tim's benefit) in the intro with an "interview" :lol Ben didn't get much of a go in this one either (too busy in the production chair bringing this together ) but he did record a little message for you at the end.

Hope you guys get something out of it - it's the usual mix of classic/rarities + hard rock/metal. Any questions re bands ,just ask here. :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 19, 2016, 07:51:30 AM: Downloading now; listening tonight/tomorrow.
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Post by: TAC on May 19, 2016, 07:58:07 AM: If it's lame humor, it's only fitting it's for Tim.

:neverusethis:

I have a long car ride tomorrow so this is perfectly timed! Thanks Brent!!
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Post by: Lowdz on May 19, 2016, 08:16:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 19, 2016, 07:39:35 AM
The last Malmsteen album that I played regularly was The Seventh Sign . I have been meaning to check out the more recent ones but (like KISS) , for some reason I just can't be bothered , despite being a huge fan of earlier material ::)

Anyway.............finally it's done. Three hours + of aural stimulation awaits.........

https://mega.nz/#!uY800aIC!wauNkzX-lRcHE-5XqbeYmPMpHdA_1SKPZwe8Gos2pvs

It's a bit disjointed seeing as it was recorded in bits over a long period and I have flown through the editing with the priority on pace in the last 24 hrs . I'd forgotten that I had attempted some lame, tongue-in-cheek humour(for Tim's benefit) in the intro with an "interview" :lol Ben didn't get much of a go in this one either (too busy in the production chair bringing this together ) but he did record a little message for you at the end.

Hope you guys get something out of it - it's the usual mix of classic/rarities + hard rock/metal. Any questions re bands ,just ask here. :metal

Facing The Animal was excellent. Everything since (Concerto Suite aside) has been various degrees of shit. Though Kade disagrees :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2016, 02:56:01 PM: I can hear the drop in quality after those particular albums, I've just always been a big fan so have eaten up everything he does. The last one though, even me, I couldn't defend it. My favourite is alctually Alchemy. Fucking heavy and Boals is a beast on it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 19, 2016, 03:07:08 PM: I really think Yngwie topped out with Rising Force and Marching Out. Those two are just spectacular and maybe the bar was set too high. I haven't heard anything that has matched those two
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Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2016, 03:12:17 PM: Downloaded the podcast but will have to wait a few weeks unfortunately.
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Post by: TAC on May 19, 2016, 06:28:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 19, 2016, 03:07:08 PM
I really think Yngwie topped out with Rising Force and Marching Out.
Wow!
:lol
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Post by: TAC on May 19, 2016, 06:58:24 PM: Awesome start to the Podcast Brent!
Uncle Ted :lol
:metal

Double Live Gonzo goes way too unnoticed when we all list best live albums. Good call! :tup

Just getting started..

Oh, and I love the idea of a 1988 show.
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Post by: TAC on May 19, 2016, 07:50:54 PM: Can you imagine a Manowar writing session..

Let's see, we need a 1st verse..
"Oh I know, let's list all of our albums"
Great!

What about the 2nd verse..
"Oh how about if we list all of the countries in Europe?"
Excellent idea! :tup
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Post by: TAC on May 19, 2016, 08:21:51 PM: That Angel In Black song sucked! :lol

Great calls on Priest, WASP, and Twisted Sister. You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is an absolutely amazing album.
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Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2016, 09:35:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 19, 2016, 06:28:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 19, 2016, 03:07:08 PM
I really think Yngwie topped out with Rising Force and Marching Out.
Wow!
:lol

Jason doesn't bullshit around!
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Post by: Lowdz on May 20, 2016, 01:36:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 19, 2016, 02:56:01 PM
I can hear the drop in quality after those particular albums, I've just always been a big fan so have eaten up everything he does. The last one though, even me, I couldn't defend it. My favourite is alctually Alchemy. Fucking heavy and Boals is a beast on it.

First big letdown album for me. A couple of decent tracks but every single song started with a slur down the low strings.
And there was no bigger Yngwie fan than me back in the day, from that Alcatrazz album. He just lost it and became a cliche of himself.
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Post by: TAC on May 20, 2016, 06:19:30 AM: New Flotsam & Jetsam today!! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 20, 2016, 07:49:52 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2016, 06:19:30 AM
New Flotsam & Jetsam today!! :metal

I should check these guys out further. That new tune they released a couple months back was terrific.
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Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2016, 03:09:52 PM: Never heard anything from them.
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Post by: TAC on May 20, 2016, 05:29:21 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
Never heard anything from them.

Not yet! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2016, 11:21:13 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 19, 2016, 08:21:51 PM
That Angel In Black song sucked! :lol

Great calls on Priest, WASP, and Twisted Sister. You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is an absolutely amazing album.

Thanks for the feedback - even the suckage :lol

Look forward to hearing more feedback on what , to be honest , was a pretty rushed effort in the end and perhaps not the best show so far.

I got on a roll the other night and aside from Ben's input and my voice overs , another big show is already in the can. Easily the heaviest so far and less hair metal , so that will please some - but never fear the hair metal will be back :)
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Post by: Big Hath on May 21, 2016, 12:00:39 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2016, 11:21:13 AM
Easily the heaviest so far

:tup
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2016, 05:52:28 PM: I'm at about the 2 hour mark in the show. Great show again Brent! These are truly gifts, and I really appreciate them. BUT.....

Sherbet Machine?? Yeah, I was like WTF?? Don't tell me the B Side is about his Jimmie Machine!

Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2016, 11:21:13 AM
Thanks for the feedback - even the suckage :lol
Good, Because Tuff Luck = suckage! :lol

The Panther tune was OK. Did you say that was 1986? I have always considered JSS's work on Marching Out as TAC Top 10 All Time Vocal. I have never come across anything else decent that he has done. Does anyone have recommendations? I sample everything I come across, like Bravewords just linked his new song, but it blows.

Oh, and speaking of blowing, what's the deal with George Lynch? The guy can obviously play, but that Lynch Mob tune was so freaking generic. Not a commentary on the show Brent, just a discussion point on Lynch. I have never understood the hero worship of this guy.

In the still of the night...... :metal

That Rata Blanca tune was fantastic. I am going to look into that.
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2016, 07:29:07 PM: I knew when I heard Welcome To The Jungle that Ben was in the house.

And don't worry about the echo.
I'd rather have that than thinking you're trying to talk sexy to us! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2016, 10:40:05 PM: Yeah........Tuff Luck ain't great - the only reason I have them is because of the guitarist. Great guitar solos can draw me in to a point.

Re Skrapp Mettle - that's why it was there , to elicit that reaction :lol

Re Soto I have almost everything he has done , so will slot in plenty of the older stuff for you. To be honest I thought you might have labelled the Rata Blanca as generic Rainbow style and , as evidenced by your roulette, I never quite got a complete handle on your tastes . So I am not 100% sure what Soto stuff would appeal , but I will continue to play rare Soto related stuff. there's not a lot he did in the Malmsteen style though. And yeah - Panther was 1986.

Re Lynch ..........I can understand the style feeling a bit generic but he is a player you can recognise after hearing 10 seconds , so from that angle he is almost the antithesis of "generic." To be honest that's the pinnacle of originality compared to what is coming out in hard rock circles today :lol Lynch has done a lot more varied stuff in recent years (KXM etc.....)but I suppose if you're not a Dokken fan then there's not a great deal he has done that would appeal. The Lynch Mob album Smoke and Mirrors is a bit more gritty , perhaps try something off that?
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2016, 03:51:43 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2016, 05:52:28 PM
Oh, and speaking of blowing, what's the deal with George Lynch? The guy can obviously play, but that Lynch Mob tune was so freaking generic. Not a commentary on the show Brent, just a discussion point on Lynch. I have never understood the hero worship of this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgzjtAo60ug

There you go.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 22, 2016, 05:18:51 AM: Lynch was a great player with his own sound. Very influential at the time too. Haven't got yo the Lynch Mob tune so don't know what you heard, but there was some more commercial stuff on the 2nd LM album.

I can at least listen to this podcast. The last one I never got to hear. Playing it through the Mega app on the iPad is a pain as it cuts out every time the screen goes to sleep. PITA.

What was the name of the band after DT and SX? And the one after Alien? Struggling to translate from the Aussie :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on May 22, 2016, 07:08:09 AM: I'm not sure I understand the problem that you seem to be having with the prior podcast Paul? I don't believe it was an issue for anyone else.....should be a simple mp3. Or was that the one I did in .rar , trying to reduce file size? if that's the case then all you need is a zip file extractor to convert to mp3 - a free program like Winrar or 7zip. Let me know and maybe I can do something. FWIW I never intended it to be played via the MEGA app (didn't even know you could).

The Lynch track was the bonus Love In Your Eyes..............my fave on that album is probably When Darkness Calls but when I have a bonus I will often use it in case fans of the band haven't heard it.

The band after SX was Divided Multitude. The band after Alien was Arion.

In the past I have considered posting a track listing in the thread but that sorta ruins the surprise of a radio show I think. If you were happy for me to zip the files then I could incorporate a doc file that has the tracks. Or I could PM the regulars a tracklist in the days after release. If anyone wants that then just let me know.
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Post by: TAC on May 22, 2016, 07:56:10 AM: OK, let me approach Lynch from another angle. Obviously the guy can play. Obviously. I saw Dokken a number of times, the best being the 95 Reunion club tour and Lynch ripped it up.

Now I'm a huge Michael Schenker fan, and if I'm being totally honest, a lot of his catalog is extremely underwhelming. I can certainly see someone saying to me why the hell would I like this guy so much. But Schenker does so many subtle things, even in his shitty tunes, and there are many, he manages to impress.

I guess in a way, it's similar to Lynch's career. I like Dokken pretty much for what they were, but I thought there was way more potential there. But everything I've heard from Lynch has done nothing for me. I cannot listen to a crap tune just to hear him. But somehow I can for Schenker, so go figure. Same goes for Extreme, and with the song that Brent played, The Decadent Dance. Yeah you can hear Nuno playing great, but the song, and the band just does nothing for me.

Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2016, 10:40:05 PM
Re Soto I have almost everything he has done , so will slot in plenty of the older stuff for you. To be honest I thought you might have labelled the Rata Blanca as generic Rainbow style and , as evidenced by your roulette, I never quite got a complete handle on your tastes . So I am not 100% sure what Soto stuff would appeal , but I will continue to play rare Soto related stuff. there's not a lot he did in the Malmsteen style though.

I'd love to hear more from Soto. The Rata Blanca was awesome though. I love classic Rainbow.

Quote from: bl5150 on May 22, 2016, 07:08:09 AM
In the past I have considered posting a track listing in the thread but that sorta ruins the surprise of a radio show I think. If you were happy for me to zip the files then I could incorporate a doc file that has the tracks. Or I could PM the regulars a tracklist in the days after release. If anyone wants that then just let me know.

I was thinking about this while finishing the show last night. First of all, these podcasts deserve their own discussion thread with podcast links and setlists posted. Brent, definitely give it a week, and then post the setlist. I'd be all for that. Like if I wanted to target a track from a previous podcast, it would make it easier to find. The cast downloads as one track so you're trying to fast forward to try and find a particular track. The setlist would at least provide a guide.

Again, these podcasts are a gift and your work is much appreciated.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 22, 2016, 09:01:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 22, 2016, 07:08:09 AM
I'm not sure I understand the problem that you seem to be having with the prior podcast Paul? I don't believe it was an issue for anyone else.....should be a simple mp3. Or was that the one I did in .rar , trying to reduce file size? if that's the case then all you need is a zip file extractor to convert to mp3 - a free program like Winrar or 7zip. Let me know and maybe I can do something. FWIW I never intended it to be played via the MEGA app (didn't even know you could).

The Lynch track was the bonus Love In Your Eyes..............my fave on that album is probably When Darkness Calls but when I have a bonus I will often use it in case fans of the band haven't heard it.

The band after SX was Divided Multitude. The band after Alien was Arion.

In the past I have considered posting a track listing in the thread but that sorta ruins the surprise of a radio show I think. If you were happy for me to zip the files then I could incorporate a doc file that has the tracks. Or I could PM the regulars a tracklist in the days after release. If anyone wants that then just let me know.

It may have been the rar. I have a program on the iPad but it just wouldn't show up. Don't worry. It's because I use the iPad I guess. Fucking Apple.

Those two bonus tracks on the Lynch Mob are decent.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2016, 01:22:12 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2016, 03:51:43 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2016, 05:52:28 PM
Oh, and speaking of blowing, what's the deal with George Lynch? The guy can obviously play, but that Lynch Mob tune was so freaking generic. Not a commentary on the show Brent, just a discussion point on Lynch. I have never understood the hero worship of this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgzjtAo60ug

There you go.

That's Kade level shredding right there!
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2016, 02:30:28 PM: haha, thanks Jason, I don't know though, Lynch is the fucking man here.

I can understand what Tim is saying though. I'd find some of his work a little dull too. his songwriting doesn't match the greatness of his playing a lot of the time. As Brent said, check Smoke and Mirrors, that one was pretty decent.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 23, 2016, 12:26:56 AM: I think Lynch is good, as so many others are and he has a distinctive playing style/tone that sets him apart from most of the others. But I never considered him a guitar god.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 23, 2016, 01:37:19 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 23, 2016, 12:26:56 AM
I think Lynch is good, as so many others are and he has a distinctive playing style/tone that sets him apart from most of the others. But I never considered him a guitar god.

At the time he was up there. There's nothing that special about it compared to today's players (other than you could tell it was him straight away), but in the early 80s he had something different from other "EVH clones", note choice, phrasing, that tone.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 03:14:15 PM: You guys ready to have your minds blown? Guess what old TAC is finally getting on CD!

WASP- s/t
-The Last Command
-The Electric Circus
-The Headless Children

Twisted Sister- Under The Blade
-You Can't Kill Rock And Roll
-Stay Hungry

Obviously, I had these back in the day on cassette, and have downloaded files around here, but I have never gotten the CDs proper. I thank Brent for this because when I heard Ride To Live and The Heretic, I realized it was time!

Oh..and the new Flotsam & Jetsam is AMAZING!!!!!
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 03:35:15 PM: Deleted
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2016, 03:46:35 PM: It's so hard to go back and buy everything I owned on album and cassette.
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Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2016, 03:47:58 PM: The Headless Children is so fucking good.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 03:51:39 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on May 23, 2016, 03:46:35 PM
It's so hard to go back and buy everything I owned on album and cassette.

That's just it. I even bought a CD recorder and put these albums on CD. Even cut my cassette covers to make new "CD covers".

WASP has always been an extremely periphery band for me, even back then. Not like I didn't like them, or even love many of their tunes, but I just never kept up with them.

And with Twisted Sister, I have basically been content with the amazing Live At Hammersmith. But it is time!! :metal
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2016, 03:55:28 PM: I used to drive through a predominantly Spanish city, (where I was born)cranking with all 4 windows down, "I Fuck Like a Beast". :lol

What a young dick I was.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 04:02:36 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on May 23, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
I used to drive through a predominantly Spanish city, (where I was born)cranking with all 4 windows down, "I Fuck Like a Beast". :lol

What a young dick I was.

Where the hell is a predominantly Spanish city in New Hampshire?? :lol
Where were you born?
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Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2016, 04:10:52 PM: And some good news in the music world finally, TMAC back on stage. Just saw this post from him about a month ago;

Hello my Friends,

I would like to say hello to all of you and wish you the best for the spring and summer.

In August and September I will be returning to the studio to work on my newest instrumental release that has long been in the making, but regrettably had to be delayed due to uncontrollable circumstances.

It has been a year since "Concrete Gardens" was been released, and in that time I have had much time to reflect on the very long journey that I have been on since my first album "Edge of Insanity." It is with love and respect that I thank you all for traveling with me on this adventure since the beginning!

I am thrilled to announce that I have been given the green light to return to performing live, and will do that starting on April 30th on tour in Europe with Michel Polnareff Officiel.

Thank you all very much for the positive thoughts, love and support.

The best and only the best to you all. Have a great musical summer! See you out there soon!!

Tony

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13260229_10207931165971971_8753122213762856084_n.jpg?oh=53bbbf1137bc406ed2d7a613bfb7f2d4&oe=57DC74E3)

This made my day.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 04:12:12 PM: Yup. That is definitely Day Making material.
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2016, 04:29:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 23, 2016, 04:02:36 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on May 23, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
I used to drive through a predominantly Spanish city, (where I was born)cranking with all 4 windows down, "I Fuck Like a Beast". :lol

What a young dick I was.

Where the hell is a predominantly Spanish city in New Hampshire?? :lol
Where were you born?

Lawrence Massachusetts.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 04:32:22 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on May 23, 2016, 04:29:55 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 23, 2016, 04:02:36 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on May 23, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
I used to drive through a predominantly Spanish city, (where I was born)cranking with all 4 windows down, "I Fuck Like a Beast". :lol

What a young dick I was.

Where the hell is a predominantly Spanish city in New Hampshire?? :lol
Where were you born?

Lawrence Massachusetts.

Oh OK. Me; Kansas City (Missouri)
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2016, 04:37:56 PM: I moved to N.H.when I was 9.

Thankfully. Lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 23, 2016, 05:19:22 PM: "Hey ladies ...........it fucks like a beast" :metal

(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/You%20Looked._zpsnhhvfoyw.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 05:22:10 PM: Maybe the dude taking the picture does! ;D
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2016, 05:29:30 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 23, 2016, 05:19:22 PM
"Hey ladies ...........it fucks like a beast" :metal

(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/You%20Looked._zpsnhhvfoyw.jpg)

Man that hunk sure did.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 05:34:30 PM: I can't even believe that is you. :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2016, 05:46:05 PM: Come on man. 19 year old king was the king of tail.

Awe yeah.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 05:48:14 PM: I'll have to find some pics.
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Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2016, 06:02:07 PM: That pic is fucking classic. :rollin
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2016, 06:12:30 PM: I was drinking Haffenreffer Private Stock back in those days. Hardcore baby. :lol
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 06:17:39 PM: Is that the one with the puzzles in the bottle caps?
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 23, 2016, 06:18:45 PM: Yup. You get to the 3rd beer and forget about reading those, aps.
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2016, 12:43:07 PM: Inspired by Kingshmegland posting some old pics, I'll do the same. I will try and scan a few in tomorrow.

I've posted this before but here I am, backstage with Ken Mary at the Boston Garden 11/17/87.
I was 19.

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/KM.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/KM.jpg.html)
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Post by: bosk1 on May 24, 2016, 12:50:08 PM: Did you have ebola?
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2016, 12:56:43 PM: :lol

Nope. It's BLOOD!!! That's what happens when you are in the front row of an Alice Cooper show during that time period.
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Post by: bosk1 on May 24, 2016, 12:58:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 24, 2016, 12:56:43 PM
:lol

Nope. It's BLOOD!!! That's what happens when you are in the front row of an Alice Cooper show during that time period.
No further explanation required.
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Post by: TAC on May 25, 2016, 02:42:19 PM: JLT news:
https://bravewords.com/features/joe-lynn-turner-working-on-secret-project-its-going-to-be-a-different-style-for-me

Which probably belongs in the wuss thread, but there's a Rata Blanca reference.

A week ago , I would've said WTF is Rata Blanca? Thanks Brent! :tup
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 25, 2016, 03:45:08 PM: I would have guessed a Gallagher show.
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Post by: TAC on May 25, 2016, 03:47:39 PM: I would've thought this:

(https://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/wp-content/uploads/rodent_122723998_shutterstock.jpg)
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 25, 2016, 03:48:12 PM: :lol

At least a Wasp concert.
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Post by: bosk1 on May 25, 2016, 03:48:18 PM: Ratt?
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Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2016, 05:22:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 25, 2016, 02:42:19 PM
JLT news:
https://bravewords.com/features/joe-lynn-turner-working-on-secret-project-its-going-to-be-a-different-style-for-me

Which probably belongs in the wuss thread, but there's a Rata Blanca reference.

A week ago , I would've said WTF is Rata Blanca? Thanks Brent! :tup

JLT getting into some Melodic death metal?!? That would be tasty. :metal
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 26, 2016, 07:41:03 AM: God, I love JLT.

I'm going back and listening to all the pre-1987 Whitesnake albums. Good God is there ever some good stuff to be heard. Wow!
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Post by: Lowdz on May 26, 2016, 09:29:20 AM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 26, 2016, 07:41:03 AM
God, I love JLT.

I'm going back and listening to all the pre-1987 Whitesnake albums. Good God is there ever some good stuff to be heard. Wow!

There is indeed. And DC's voice was awesome back then. So warm and smooth.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on May 26, 2016, 09:30:55 AM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 26, 2016, 07:41:03 AM
God, I love JLT.

I'm going back and listening to all the pre-1987 Whitesnake albums. Good God is there ever some good stuff to be heard. Wow!

Well duh! :lol Lovehunter is more than just a great album cover. :metal
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 26, 2016, 09:34:28 AM: There's just SO much old stuff I missed out on that trying to remember all the things I should check out and actually DOING it gets overwhelming sometimes.
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Post by: Stadler on May 26, 2016, 11:33:25 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 26, 2016, 09:29:20 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 26, 2016, 07:41:03 AM
God, I love JLT.

I'm going back and listening to all the pre-1987 Whitesnake albums. Good God is there ever some good stuff to be heard. Wow!

There is indeed. And DC's voice was awesome back then. So warm and smooth.

Actually, I'm an unabashed JLT fan. LOVE the three Rainbow records with him, and - other than the lyrics, which are absolutely ABYSSMAL - I actually LIKE Slaves and Masters. His live version of All Night Long, on the b-side of the "Can't Let You Go" 12" single, is stellar. I don't entertain much of his solo stuff, but I love the work he's done with Blackmore a whole lot.

I've had the Live record from 1980, and got into them with "Slide It In", but I recently went back and filled in the blanks and you're not kidding. Some good stuff. If you're into it, try to find the UK version of Slide It In, before they added the Sykes solos and keyboard patches. Fits in nicely with the rest of those records.

I think Coverdale's voice is WAY underrated. I think the vocal on the acoustic version of "Forevermore" is amazing, and the "Starkers In Tokyo", a live acoustic radio performance with just him and Adrian Vandeberg is MUST HAVE just for the version of "Don't Fade Away".
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Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2016, 12:39:05 PM: I am currently catching up on the huge number of 2016 albums that have passed me by while focusing on roulettes. Most of them are in the good,not great category but finally I have found one that isn't.

The Cult's new album...................fucking awful :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on May 26, 2016, 01:00:41 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 26, 2016, 09:30:55 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 26, 2016, 07:41:03 AM
God, I love JLT.

I'm going back and listening to all the pre-1987 Whitesnake albums. Good God is there ever some good stuff to be heard. Wow!

Well duh! :lol Lovehunter is more than just a great album cover. :metal

I used to have a back patch of that cover sewn into my school rucksack. One of the gorgeous older girls, a rock chick, came over to talk to me about it. The rest of my mates were jealous. Instant kudos.
Still see her around town - she sings in a band. She's old and fat now :biggrin:
I'm old and bold.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 26, 2016, 01:13:46 PM: Nooooo. ManOwaR are calling it quits. Weird, I was listening to Sign of the Hammer this morning.

https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=123664
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Post by: bosk1 on May 26, 2016, 01:30:02 PM: Well, you're one up on me for even posting that because I didn't even realize they had been active in the first place. :lol
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Post by: Big Hath on May 26, 2016, 01:40:47 PM: here are the winners from the latest podcast I was not already familiar with. I knew most of the highly rated songs this time around (I knew 8 of the 10 I rated 9 or higher).

9.0
Manowar - Blood of the Kings
Claudio Cordero - Outatime

8.5
Divided Multitude - Scars
Ratt - Shame Shame Shame
W.A.S.P. - The Heretic (The Lost Child)
Lord - Digital Lies
Zed Yago - Pioneer of the Storm
Taberah - For King and Country (I think you called the band 'Malpractice' at one point. I thought i was going to have to reconfigure my Aussie translator. :lol)

average rating for all the songs in the podcast was 8.38 which puts it firmly in the midst of the previous shows.

podcast 1: 8.44
podcast 2: 8.26
podcast 3: 8.59
podcast 4: 8.38
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Post by: bosk1 on May 26, 2016, 01:46:33 PM: New post in the Y&T thread.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 26, 2016, 02:41:10 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 26, 2016, 01:13:46 PM
Nooooo. ManOwaR are calling it quits. Weird, I was listening to Sign of the Hammer this morning.

https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=123664

This is going to be the manliest farewell tour of all time!!
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Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2016, 02:58:16 PM: So much tits, beer and metal for sure.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 26, 2016, 02:59:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 26, 2016, 02:58:16 PM
So much tits, beer and metal for sure.

The triple threat of awesomeness
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2016, 03:02:47 PM: Hath, RATT and 8.5??

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/52946709.jpg)
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Post by: Big Hath on May 26, 2016, 03:09:26 PM: I'm rating songs, not bands
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2016, 03:27:33 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on May 26, 2016, 03:09:26 PM
I'm rating songs, not bands

Even still! ;D
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 26, 2016, 03:51:13 PM: As I told king on FB, regarding Manowar:

There's a reason the first three letters are "m-a-n". Manliest rock band ever. Those are the kinda guys you drink mead out of the skulls of washed up 90's grunge frontmen with.
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Post by: bosk1 on May 26, 2016, 04:07:22 PM: :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on May 26, 2016, 04:51:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 26, 2016, 02:58:16 PM
So much tits, beer and metal for sure.

Reminds me of seeing them on the Kings of Metal tour. We were stood outside the venue and it was snowing. We could see the tour bus and a roadie suddenly cleared the windscreen and cleared the condensation then Joey presented a naked lady at the window - got a huge cheer from us freezing fans.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 26, 2016, 05:55:31 PM: Could you imagine Manowar and Steel Panther on tour together? Nobody's woman would be safe.
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Post by: Big Hath on May 26, 2016, 06:21:48 PM: spontaneous impregnations for miles surrounding the venue
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Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2016, 06:28:29 PM: The Triumph of Steel Panther Tour :metal

Thanks muchly for the podcast feedback Hath - aside from people posting here (and for as long as I use MEGA to host) I have no way of knowing the number of listeners and,by inference , whether I should persist. Tim's feedback is also much appreciated.

Re the Taberah.........yeah , well that's what I get for rushing to voice over a podcast that was put together six months prior :lol I had forgotten Taberah - the reason I put them in was that they were the local support when I saw Nightwish and I was very impressed with them.

Going for a Hath ratings record with the next one :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on May 27, 2016, 02:17:15 AM: Working my way through it - I appreciate it and enjoy it. there are the occaisional gems that I've not heard before and its always good to hear familiar stuff and I can pretend its on the radio :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on May 27, 2016, 02:26:42 AM: Thanks Paul................the next few should be rippers as I can now use all the stuff I was holding back for roulette season ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on May 27, 2016, 07:26:22 AM: Here's some rare Soto for you Tim ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIJ6CxnPj_Q
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 27, 2016, 08:25:02 AM: I saw that yesterday. Billy at 1:15 saying "WTF?" :lol
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 27, 2016, 11:32:08 AM: Quote from: Stadler on May 26, 2016, 11:33:25 AM
I've had the Live record from 1980, and got into them with "Slide It In", but I recently went back and filled in the blanks and you're not kidding. Some good stuff. If you're into it, try to find the UK version of Slide It In, before they added the Sykes solos and keyboard patches. Fits in nicely with the rest of those records.

I've heard the UK remastered version of the song Slide It In, but not the whole album. I absolutely love Sykes' solo on Slide it In. It is unquestionably one of my favorite guitar solos. The UK version has a pretty good and melodic solo, but it's just not the same for me.

Also, holy bass drum!
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Post by: TAC on May 27, 2016, 03:25:12 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 27, 2016, 07:26:22 AM
Here's some rare Soto for you Tim ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIJ6CxnPj_Q
:lol
Dude, WTF?? I saw this post this morning when I got to work, around 5:00 AM. It's all I thought about, so after an 11 hour work day, I race to my computer for this?????

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/52645183.jpg)

I do have a question though. Is Kotzen a chick with a mustache?
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Post by: Lowdz on May 27, 2016, 03:35:33 PM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on May 27, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: Stadler on May 26, 2016, 11:33:25 AM
I've had the Live record from 1980, and got into them with "Slide It In", but I recently went back and filled in the blanks and you're not kidding. Some good stuff. If you're into it, try to find the UK version of Slide It In, before they added the Sykes solos and keyboard patches. Fits in nicely with the rest of those records.

I've heard the UK remastered version of the song Slide It In, but not the whole album. I absolutely love Sykes' solo on Slide it In. It is unquestionably one of my favorite guitar solos. The UK version has a pretty good and melodic solo, but it's just not the same for me.

Also, holy bass drum!

It was always hard to ignore Cozy. :metal
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Post by: TAC on May 29, 2016, 10:55:49 AM: I'm sorry to say this, but WASP's Electric Circus has not aged well.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2016, 01:36:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 29, 2016, 10:55:49 AM
I'm sorry to say this, but WASP's Electric Circus has not aged well.

It was half a great album I always thought - similar to Last Command in that respect. The next two rule though.
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Post by: TAC on May 29, 2016, 03:44:22 PM: Yeah, it was at best half a good album in 1986. Restless Gypsy is still amazing though. But those lyrics to Shoot From The Hip and 95 Nasty.. :facepalm: Though both tracks are good musically.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 29, 2016, 03:49:44 PM: Aside from a track or three from each album (Electric Circus/Last Command) my focus has always been on the s/t , Headless Children and Crimson Idol. The debut was one of my first genuine metal albums and is fanfuckingtastic. Headless Children was the one I chose for my Top 50 but they are all awesome.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2016, 03:56:45 PM: For me, the first five WASP albums are essential metal listening; especially the debut. I really like Electric Circus, and would probably pick it over Last Command overall. However, "Wild Child" is my favorite WASP tune.
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Post by: TAC on May 29, 2016, 03:59:21 PM: Even though I bought the tape of The Headless Children when it came out, I honestly couldn't tell you the first thing about it. Looking forward to re-rediscovering it. Spinning it tomorrow.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2016, 04:02:10 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 29, 2016, 03:56:45 PM
For me, the first five WASP albums are essential metal listening; especially the debut. I really like Electric Circus, and would probably pick it over Last Command overall. However, "Wild Child" is my favorite WASP tune.

Blackie's too. He's rewritten it several times since! :biggrin:
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 29, 2016, 04:35:03 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 27, 2016, 07:26:22 AM
Here's some rare Soto for you Tim ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIJ6CxnPj_Q

Hahaha I'm glad I stumbled in this thread. That was gravy.
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2016, 11:57:10 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 29, 2016, 03:49:44 PM
Aside from a track or three from each album (Electric Circus/Last Command) my focus has always been on the s/t , Headless Children and Crimson Idol. The debut was one of my first genuine metal albums and is fanfuckingtastic. Headless Children was the one I chose for my Top 50 but they are all awesome.

Same. Those two simply don't match the quality of the three around it. I always found the dip in quality for those two albums really weird considering how amazing the first album is.
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Post by: Evermind on May 31, 2016, 12:08:06 PM: Curious.

Quote
KAI HANSEN TO RELEASE DEBUT SOLO ALBUM “XXX” IN AUGUST 2016 AND ANNOUNCES DONATION TO WACKEN FOUNDATION.
EXCLUSIVE PERFORMANCE AT WACKEN OPEN AIR FESTIVAL 2016.

KAI HANSEN, earMUSIC and WACKEN Foundation are happy to announce the release of "XXX", the first "solo project" album by Kai Hansen, one of the most influential guitarists and singers to emerge from Germany during the first part of the 80s. First with ground-breaking band HELLOWEEN (of which Hansen is one of the founding members) and later with GAMMA RAY, one of the bands that contributed to define the genre power metal, bringing it to generation of devoted fans worldwide since its first album.

"XXX" is, in pure Hansen tongue-in-cheek style, a reference to over 30 years of involvement in the world of heavy rock, as explained with the album's sub-title "Three Decades In Metal".

The album will be released in August 2016 on earMUSIC with further news to be shared soon.

"XXX" is a magical journey. It is the story of how powerful dreams can be. Dreams and passions big enough to bring a teenager from Hamburg who is in love with rock music, glam rock and the first heavy metal sounds from the practicing space in his bedroom and rehearsal rooms to the biggest stages in the world practicing, and ending up influencing and sharing the stage with the very same bands he admired in the first place.

Not strictly autobiographical, "XXX" is without doubt the story of Kai Hansen but it could very well represent the story of anybody who is not afraid to believe in dreams, with passion and dedication. It is the story of the ups and downs that everybody faces at some point during the journey of life: the lost and found-again friends, the glory, the tragedies and the joys.

After the achievements enjoyed by Hansen lately with Unisonic and especially Gamma Ray's recent work "Empire Of The Undead", Kai Hansen has started working on the album with no precise commercial masterplan. Just playing music with the same spirit as in the very beginning.

This certainly was the reason for Hansen to communicate to his label the intention of donating the first advance payment he will receive for XXX - which in the meantime was shaping into a proper album - to the Wacken Foundation. A foundation which helps and supports young hard rock and heavy metal bands for over seven years now: Musicians full of hopes and dreams, exactly as Hansen had in the beginning of the 30 years story told on this album... in the hope that one day, somebody could tell another 30 years long magic story, also thanks to this album.

Together with Hansen, a stellar band of musicians gravitating around the Chameleon Studio in Hamburg has formed spontaneously:
Alex Dietz (guitar player of Heaven Shall Burn) on bass, Eike Freese (who already worked as engineer and co-producer with Hansen on the last Gamma Ray album) on guitar and phenomenal drummer Daniel Wilding (Carcass). The four will be joined by various guests, ranging from friends to followers to heroes – some having played a significant part in Kai's career, some who have expressed the wish to join the project with the same spirit that is leading Kai, Alex, Eike and Daniel to create loud music with joy, freedom and determination.

Kai & friends will do an exclusive one-time performance at this year’s Wacken Open Air Festival, introducing the songs from the album to the audience for the first and only time.

Talking about XXX (while in the studio, recording guitars) KAI HANSEN has declared:
“30 years in metal, that’s a damn long time. Over the course of all these years, I never recorded a solo album. It is quite nice and a hell lot of fun to create something without any boundaries and to get a fresh view on music. I am celebrating 30 years of being able to do what I like best... On ‘XXX’ I am reflecting on my roots, where I come from, how it all started for me. I believe you need a certain drive, passion and of course a bit of luck and coincidence to make it in the music world – and of course some financial support. This is where the Wacken Foundation came to my mind. They are helping people, musicians just like me, who want to make it. And I remember having had help myself, from my family, the families from the other band members – and by doing a paper round. So hopefully, with my donation, young musicians are given the same chance that I was given a long time ago, too. And who knows, maybe we all will be playing together at Wacken in 20 years…”
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Post by: TAC on May 31, 2016, 01:50:39 PM: I saw that earlier today. Interesting.
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Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2016, 02:58:16 PM: Looking forward to that one, does sound very interesting. perhaps we'll hear some Walls of Jericho influenced stuff.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2016, 03:10:28 PM: What's up with Kai's hair these days ? :lol
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Post by: TAC on May 31, 2016, 03:12:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2016, 03:10:28 PM
What's up with Kade's hair these days ? :lol

Kade, I hope you take this comment into account when grading the tracks in your roulette!!!
I would never say anything like that. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2016, 03:15:42 PM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2016, 04:15:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 31, 2016, 03:12:32 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2016, 03:10:28 PM
What's up with Kade's hair these days ? :lol

Kade, I hope you take this comment into account when grading the tracks in your roulette!!!
I would never say anything like that. ;D

Unfotunately Tim, Brent's right, his wig is fucking awful.

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net/media/kaihansensparktv2015_638.jpg)

:facepalm:
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2016, 04:59:06 PM: I think you missed what Tim did to the name in the quote Kade ;)

And yeah........that makes Mark Boals look like Fabio.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2016, 04:47:04 AM: I tried my first new Malmsteen album in years just now.........and not glad I did. Dialled in , sounds like shit. 60%
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Post by: Big Hath on June 02, 2016, 06:25:17 AM: oof
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 02, 2016, 07:59:45 AM: ouch
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Post by: Lowdz on June 02, 2016, 08:16:51 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 02, 2016, 04:47:04 AM
I tried my first new Malmsteen album in years just now.........and not glad I did. Dialled in , sounds like shit. 60%

And you expected something else?

He needs an outside ear and a singer, a great one. I don't think I'll even bother.
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Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2016, 03:33:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2016, 04:59:06 PM
I think you missed what Tim did to the name in the quote Kade ;)

And yeah........that makes Mark Boals look like Fabio.

Ah, that motherfucker!! :hat :facepalm:

Quote from: bl5150 on June 02, 2016, 04:47:04 AM
I tried my first new Malmsteen album in years just now.........and not glad I did. Dialled in , sounds like shit. 60%

For fucks sake Yngwie, what the hell are you doing!?
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Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2016, 06:54:01 AM: Pretty safe but solid Hotel California cover by Jorn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZbMZrNdy9U
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 03, 2016, 07:28:29 AM: It's technically not a bad cover, but his modern metal sound doesn't work well for that song imo. As always, no problem with the vocals.
I'd like to hear him adapt and change his sound when covering songs, instead of making every song sound the same.
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Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2016, 07:34:15 AM: Even thought this covers album sounds solid, there's really no reason to purchase it or listen to it more than once IMO.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 03, 2016, 07:35:46 AM: I agree. A lot of these covers are more curiosities to me. I am interested to hear how they sound, but once I've heard them, I don't imagine I'll want to listen to them repeatedly.
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Post by: TAC on June 03, 2016, 01:06:37 PM: New Flots vid for Life Is A Mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI8rWo2osaU

Kade, I was going to send this track next round. Should've sent it last round..

Anyway, it's easily my favorite track off the new album. They haven't played in this style in a looooooong time. Classic Flots. This album is killer, and Jason Bittner is ridiculous on this album!
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Post by: cfmoran13 on June 03, 2016, 02:35:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 03, 2016, 01:06:37 PM
New Flots vid for Life Is A Mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI8rWo2osaU

Kade, I was going to send this track next round. Should've sent it last round..

Anyway, it's easily my favorite track off the new album. They haven't played in this style in a looooooong time. Classic Flots. This album is killer, and Jason Bittner is ridiculous on this album!
When you say "Classic Flots", do you mean Doomsday and No Place or Cuatro and Drift? I started at Cuatro, which I love. I tried to go back to the earlier stuff. But, the production and a younger AK's voice kinda turned me off.
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Post by: TAC on June 03, 2016, 02:43:30 PM: Classic for me is No Place, and Doomsday, if you will. My two favorite are easily No Place and When The Storm Comes Down. While it has aged quite well, I remember being very disappointed with Cuatro. I think they dipped with Drift, but I quite like High. Still it's the early speedy Flots that I love, and this new album is the closest they've ever come to the early vibe.
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Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2016, 03:42:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 03, 2016, 01:06:37 PM
New Flots vid for Life Is A Mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI8rWo2osaU

Kade, I was going to send this track next round. Should've sent it last round..

Anyway, it's easily my favorite track off the new album. They haven't played in this style in a looooooong time. Classic Flots. This album is killer, and Jason Bittner is ridiculous on this album!

Pretty damn good. Nice mix of Metal Church, Overkill and Anthrax. This would have rated a lot better Tim, great metal. Another band to add to the list.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2016, 04:20:33 PM: So I gave in and spotifyed the new Yngwie album. Brent, you were too kind. It's fucking abysmal. Lots of instrumentals thankfully, but they all sound the same with the same few licks repeated in a different order.
On a positive, the last track was ok but it's probably a classical melody he's stolen.

Shit. Shit. shit

Don't bother.
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2016, 09:58:26 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 05, 2016, 04:20:33 PM
So I gave in and spotifyed the new Yngwie album. Brent, you were too kind. It's fucking abysmal. Lots of instrumentals thankfully, but they all sound the same with the same few licks repeated in a different order.
On a positive, the last track was ok but it's probably a classical melody he's stolen.

Shit. Shit. shit

Don't bother.

So disappointing. I'll listen but if anything like the last one, just garbage.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 06, 2016, 12:15:53 AM: If both Paul and Brent say it's the shits, then it's officially the shits
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2016, 05:34:22 PM: So I was perusing the credits for the new Michael Schenker live album, and I see that the track listing was done by Shmegland Graphics out of New Hampshire!

(https://en.metal-tracker.com/torrents/images/1755860.jpg)

See track 14

;D
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2016, 05:52:14 PM: So is it actually To Many Ho's To Handle?
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2016, 05:54:31 PM: Apparently! :lol

Probably not even a mistake on King's part! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2016, 05:58:56 PM: Well in that case it might be Too Much For The Ho's To Handle :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 07, 2016, 08:03:56 PM: It's actually not a typo.

It doesn't mention it on the cover, but Hacksaw Jim Duggan makes a special appearance during that song and they changed the title to honor him
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2016, 08:09:25 PM: Hmm.. You might be right...Now that I think of it, I don't think Hacksaw Jim and Shmegland Joe have ever been seen in the same place!
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 07, 2016, 08:17:13 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2016, 08:09:25 PM
Hmm.. You might be right...Now that I think of it, I don't think Hacksaw Jim and Shmegland Joe have ever been seen in the same place!

Interesting
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 08, 2016, 04:06:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 07, 2016, 05:58:56 PM
Well in that case it might be Too Much For The Ho's To Handle :lol
.
Bitch please.

Ho's better handle me.

Actually, one bitch is enough. Thank you very much.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2016, 06:35:33 AM: So I figured I'd post an old pic. It was taken after the Paul Stanley solo tour show in Hartford on 2-23-89. It's the 80's so acid wash jeans and a jean jacket FTW!! :lol

I went with my friend Greg Lyons, who like is Australian cousin was a very funny guy. We each got a pick and we are posing at a Paul show doing a Gene tongue impression. :facepalm:

We each also got a shirt, but as you can see, Greg got the gay one!

Anyway, a 20 year old TAC!

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/PS-GL_zpsx8ssubo9.jpeg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/PS-GL_zpsx8ssubo9.jpeg.html)
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2016, 02:06:50 PM: Been listening to a number of recent albums and I have a few thoughts:

1. Listened to Primal Fear's Rulebreaker last night. Nothing wrong with it. I like the music and I like the songs, but it comes down to the realization that I don't like Ralf Sheepers. I don't have their entire catalog, but I have bought their last 4 or 5 albums. I was not planning on getting Rulebreaker but the usual suspects around here were saying how great it was, so I did something I wasn't planning on doing. I bought it. Probably the last one.

2. Grabbed the new Michael Schenker live album. It's a great collection of tunes spanning his career, his new Temple Of Rock material, and some Scorps tunes (being that his rhythm section is Buccholz/Rarebell). His last two albums (with Doogie White) have been excellent. Schenker is playing inspired and these are his best albums in many a year. Much like the discussion last week about George Lynch, Schenker's discog is very mediocre. Sometimes I think he's too timid and afraid to "show off".

Anyway, I have two complaints. Schenker is way too low in the mix. But mainly, Doogie White is very disappointing on this, especially on the non Temple Of Rock tracks. It feels like there's a lack of effort. Doctor Doctor is so lame, and he sucks all of the life out of the verses of Attack Of The Mad Axeman. It feels like he's going through the motions, and maybe there's a reason he keeps bouncing around. I love the two albums he's made with Schenker, but this performance is weak here.
Oh, and Schenker gave Wayne Findlay the solos on Blackout and Rock You Like A Hurricane. I was really waiting to hear Schenker's take on those great solos, especially RYLAH.

3. Is it 1988 again?? Going back to last year's Slayer and Saxon albums, and including this year's Megadeth, Anthrax, Metal Church, and now the new Flotsam & Jetsam, these are all great albums, and in most cases, the best album these bands have done in years. They all capture each band's respective "Classic" sound. It's amazing that all of these albums have been released so close to each other.
Ironically, I was most disappointed with The Book Of Souls out of all of these albums. I'm not saying its my least favorite of the bunch, but within each bands discography, I feel that it's a weaker album in Maiden's than say For All Kings in Anthrax's. Does that make sense?

Anyway, those are the TAC Metal Thoughts of the day.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2016, 02:55:15 PM: I'd agree on the recent thrash albums, though I haven't played the F&J as I was never a fan. I do really like the Maiden though. Some great stuff around from the old guard. Maybe they've stopped fucking around with trying to do something different and just embraced what their fans wanted?

Shame about the Schenker. Saw him live a couple of years ago with this lineup and it was awesome. I've never been a Dougie fan at all. He's too pub singer for me, so I'm not surprised at your response. Seeing Schenker was a bucket list gig as I had tickets years ago and the gig was cancelled following one of his meltdowns.

I'd love to see him play with UFO one more time.
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Post by: bosk1 on June 08, 2016, 03:19:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 03, 2016, 01:06:37 PM
New Flots vid for Life Is A Mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI8rWo2osaU

Kade, I was going to send this track next round. Should've sent it last round..

Anyway, it's easily my favorite track off the new album. They haven't played in this style in a looooooong time. Classic Flots. This album is killer, and Jason Bittner is ridiculous on this album!

Wow, I quite like that. And I know you will disagree, Tim, but this reminds me of Drift's sound quite a bit, which automatically lifts it in my book.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2016, 03:24:53 PM: I actually listened to Drift the other night. It has aged well, let me say that. My thing is that I got into F&J on the Doomsday tour, and the subsequent No Place For Disgrace and When The Strom Comes Down. They were very fast and speedy. It's a vibe that's been recaptured on the new album. Cuatro, their 4th album, signaled a change, similar to what I mentioned in your Y&T thread. Gone was the speed element to their sound. Drift was even mellower, and I use the term "mellower" in the loosest of terms.

I like a lot of the tunes on Drift.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2016, 03:28:51 PM: Tim, is there anything specific that you don't like about Ralf? I know you aren't the biggest Judas Priest fan, so maybe it's just the Rob Halford sound that doesn't do it for you. Ralf is one of my favorite singers, so I guess we are off on this opinion a bit lol.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2016, 03:34:54 PM: It's hard to say really. It's my ears, ya know? :lol

No I'm not the biggest Priest fan, but I never not liked Rob Halford, and I've never attributed my lack of JP love to Halford. But maybe. I've thought about it. With Ralf, I don't know, it's just not pleasurable. And I'm not saying that Tom Araya is.. :lol But I listen to Slayer for a certain experience. I guess I can get my Primal Fear hard rocking fix in many other ways, that I don't have to force myself to get through the vocals.
I'm certainly not saying he's bad or anything, but it's a near miss for me.
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2016, 07:14:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 08, 2016, 02:06:50 PM
3. Is it 1988 again?? Going back to last year's Slayer and Saxon albums, and including this year's Megadeth, Anthrax, Metal Church, and now the new Flotsam & Jetsam, these are all great albums, and in most cases, the best album these bands have done in years. They all capture each band's respective "Classic" sound. It's amazing that all of these albums have been released so close to each other.
Ironically, I was most disappointed with The Book Of Souls out of all of these albums. I'm not saying its my least favorite of the bunch, but within each bands discography, I feel that it's a weaker album in Maiden's than say For All Kings in Anthrax's. Does that make sense?

I agree with all of this and have thought the same thing. The last couple of years or so I guess, bands are getting back to making solid music that can match the older stuff. It's so refreshing and makes me proud of the genre. I can see what you are saying with TBOS, but I liked it, cause it's Maiden pushing the envelope a bit.

Fair enough with Ralf too, but I think he's one of the best metal singers around.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2016, 09:54:11 PM: I'll mention one other thing about Ralf. I would say he has done one of, if not the best job, in taking care of his voice in all of hard rock/metal.

Not sure how many are familiar with his work in Tyran Pace, but if you listen to his vocals back then and compare it to his current voice, there is next to no drop off. Great standard set by this guy!
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Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2016, 09:56:16 PM: I actually have a Tyran Pace track lined up for the next podcast - not real consistent but their best songs were good.

From what I understand Ralf ain't quite so flash live in recent times. And that's no knock on the guy - at his age it's a feat to do it even when well rested in the studio.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2016, 10:14:07 PM: What would you rank those Tyran Pace albums Brent?
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Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2016, 10:22:00 PM: I had to look em up but I have Long Live metal and Watching You at 80% and Eye to Eye at 71%. Having said that the better tracks are some of my favourite early metal tracks...........the metal radio show (one and only) that I grew up with played them a bit .
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Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2016, 06:27:25 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 08, 2016, 09:56:16 PM
From what I understand Ralf ain't quite so flash live in recent times. And that's no knock on the guy - at his age it's a feat to do it even when well rested in the studio.

I've noticed that from some live videos too. Seems to be losing it a little live.
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Post by: TAC on June 11, 2016, 06:18:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 09, 2016, 10:51:48 PM
(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/5/5/1/1/551155.jpg?5707)

Brent, I saw you post this the other day. Obviously I've never heard of them. :lol
Listening now. What is your rating on this?

I'd give it low 70's..

Just gave the new Death Angel a listen. It started off OK, but halfway through I remembered why I don't listen to them. The vocals. It seemed like the longer I listened the more he sounded like the dude from Rage Against The Machine, which to me, might be the most obnoxious vocalist going.

Oh, and I'll be starting a 80's inspired thread shortly. Going to start writing it this week. Hopefully Chad will be back for it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 11, 2016, 07:28:04 PM: I like the sounds of that thread!
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Post by: TAC on June 11, 2016, 07:33:22 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 11, 2016, 07:28:04 PM
I like the sounds of that thread!

Awesome, as I also expect your participation.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 11, 2016, 07:41:34 PM: @Tim - re the Wisdom , I quite like it. I would agree with a rating of low-mid 70's but for the last few tracks which I thought dragged it up to around 80%. I don't listen to much of that grandiose power metal but I do prefer it with a bit less cheese and a bit more of a metal edge and Wisdom fit the bill. Maybe not quite as good as my other obscure fave Crystal Eyes , but good nonetheless. Their previous album Marching For Liberty is similar but better....maybe mid 80's rating.
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Post by: TAC on June 11, 2016, 07:44:03 PM: Brent, it's cheesy though. As hell. :lol

I checked a couple of tracks on Marching For Liberty, and it felt a bit stronger, so yeah.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 11, 2016, 07:51:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 11, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
Brent, it's cheesy though. As hell. :lol

I checked a couple of tracks on Marching For Liberty, and it felt a bit stronger, so yeah.

yeah......plenty cheesy in the subject matter but IMO they have a more authentic metal edge to the music than bands like Rhapsody etc....which I can't take for very long usually.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 11, 2016, 07:54:26 PM: I'm with you on Rhapsody Brent
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Post by: TAC on June 11, 2016, 08:06:40 PM: Well saying they're less cheesy than Rhapsody is certainly damning them with false praise. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on June 12, 2016, 02:50:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 11, 2016, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 11, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
Brent, it's cheesy though. As hell. :lol

I checked a couple of tracks on Marching For Liberty, and it felt a bit stronger, so yeah.

yeah......plenty cheesy in the subject matter but IMO they have a more authentic metal edge to the music than bands like Rhapsody etc....which I can't take for very long usually.

I struggle with a lot of these power metal bands. I'll hear a track on YouTube and it will be great, then I play the whole album and it's all the same. Happy clappy church hymns with that galloping drum beat all the fucking time!

The guitarists are always great at what they do but again it's all so samey.

With Rhapsody I love the Dawn of Victory album but can't get into the rest.
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Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2016, 03:46:13 AM: Finally got around to having a listen through your podcast Brent, good stuff indeed. Here's some random thoughts;

Divided Multitude was pretty good.

Alien a band I've looked at a few times and been meaning to check out, good song, reminded me a bit of old school Malmsteen, I liked this one.

Still didn't really dig that Arion.

Classic Priest choice.

Fucking great WASP song too, never gets old. Perfect album, just perfect.

The Bangalore Choir was fucking awesome.

Love the Lord inclusion.

Still enjoyed the Killer Dwarfs that Jason sent me, good song.

That Panther was solid, JSS sounding amazing as usual, never heard that before.

WTF indeed at the Skrap Mettel, I thought I had heard a song or two before, but don't remember that one lol.

I thought the Tuff Luck was pretty shit.

I like that Jaded Heart. I've got one or two albums from them but didn't know that song, should dig them out.

Classic Whitesnake, love it.

Tarot are alright, but pretty hit and miss. Some of their later stuff I have is pretty solid.

Hounds is one of my fav Tage tracks. Criss' outro solo is just too good for words.

Good Maiden choice, underrated big time.

Malpractice is a great band, only got one album but it's excellent.

The Kirk? track was great.

The Claudio you sent is still great.
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Post by: Big Hath on June 12, 2016, 10:09:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 12, 2016, 03:46:13 AM
Malpractice is a great band, only got one album but it's excellent.

that was actually Taberah but Brent called them Malpractice by mistake
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Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2016, 02:41:56 PM: Kirk was a band I had lined up for your roulette but ran out of rounds ;D I think you still have a podcast or two you've missed so there's some more stuff there.

And yeah - when I was rushing to finish off the podcast I must've quickly checked iTunes for the song title and Malpractice have the same song name and I'd forgotten about Taberah ::)
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Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2016, 03:08:02 PM: Oh well, the Taberah was great. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2016, 05:50:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 12, 2016, 03:08:02 PM
Oh well, the Taberah was great. ;D

If they ever tour Brisbane I would get there Kade - a really entertaining band . They're from Tassie and supported Nightwish when I saw them in Melbourne.
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Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2016, 11:10:50 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 12, 2016, 05:50:55 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 12, 2016, 03:08:02 PM
Oh well, the Taberah was great. ;D

If they ever tour Brisbane I would get there Kade - a really entertaining band . They're from Tassie and supported Nightwish when I saw them in Melbourne.

Wow, another kick ass Aussie band. Good to know Brent.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 13, 2016, 12:54:39 PM: I haven't got as far as the Skrap Metal track. I'm guessing it's the very Whitesnakey ballad with wanker in the first line? Retire or die?
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Post by: bl5150 on June 13, 2016, 12:59:02 PM: Nah - "You ain't no virgin baby , that's for sure" :lol

Shoot The Sherbet :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on June 14, 2016, 01:38:22 AM: I hear Primal Fear put on a good show on the weekend - tiny venue aside (sold out). Black Majesty ended up as support so would've been a good gig.

Speaking of support the bands supporting Queensryche in the various cities have been announced for the Aussie tour. Check out Melbourne :metal :metal

Tuesday 11th October – Brisbane – The Triffid
w/ Seraphic, Awaken Solace

Thursday 13th October – Adelaide – Fowlers Live
w/ Hidden Intent, icecocoon

Friday 14th October – Melbourne – Prince Bandroom
w/ Vanishing Point, Teramaze

Saturday 15th October – Sydney – Manning Bar
w/ LORD, Hemina
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 14, 2016, 03:36:12 AM: I haven't heard of any of those bands except for the Sydney openers. I went to school with one of the guys from Hemina.
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Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2016, 05:16:29 AM: Fuck what a lineup in Melbourne. Queensland get people I've never heard of of course. Of course Syndey get LORD too. ::)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 14, 2016, 05:53:00 AM: Sydney ALWAYS gets Lord. :lol
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Post by: bosk1 on June 14, 2016, 09:29:14 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on June 08, 2016, 03:19:23 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 03, 2016, 01:06:37 PM
New Flots vid for Life Is A Mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI8rWo2osaU

Kade, I was going to send this track next round. Should've sent it last round..

Anyway, it's easily my favorite track off the new album. They haven't played in this style in a looooooong time. Classic Flots. This album is killer, and Jason Bittner is ridiculous on this album!

Wow, I quite like that. And I know you will disagree, Tim, but this reminds me of Drift's sound quite a bit, which automatically lifts it in my book.
Just picked this up last night. I have not had a chance to listen to the whole thing, but I like what I have heard so far (first four tracks). Rather than starting the disk from the beginning, I went right to Iron Maiden because I had to see whether there were going to be lyrical references to the band, or if it was just about medieval torture. (since the font they used in the booklet is completely illegible, I couldn't just read the lyrics to see what the songs are about) It was bugging me that the music and vocal melody sounded somewhat familiar...until midway through the second verse I found myself involuntarily humming the vocal melody from The Trooper over the riff. :lol Anyway, cool little song. Definitely a nod to Maiden, but not quite in the way I expected.

As far as the rest of the album, again, I like what I am hearing so far. I like that it sounds like classic thrash, but also sounds modernized and not dated. And I do hear some sonic similarities with Drift, but I guess that may largely be attributable to Michael Gilbert being back in the band. Tim, does he write much? I don't know anything about the writing and dynamics of the band. I know Eric is the only member that has stayed on continuously since the beginning, so I am guessing he is heavily involved in the writing. But I don't know to what extent other contribute.

I will report more on this later after I have listened to the whole thing. I also picked up the new Lacuna Coil and Jelly Jam albums. Those don't really fit this thread, so I will report on those elsewhere. But lots of new music to listen to.
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Post by: TAC on June 14, 2016, 02:37:19 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on June 14, 2016, 09:29:14 AM
I went right to Iron Maiden because I had to see whether there were going to be lyrical references to the band, or if it was just about medieval torture. (since the font they used in the booklet is completely illegible, I couldn't just read the lyrics to see what the songs are about) It was bugging me that the music and vocal melody sounded somewhat familiar...until midway through the second verse I found myself involuntarily humming the vocal melody from The Trooper over the riff. :lol Anyway, cool little song. Definitely a nod to Maiden, but not quite in the way I expected.
It's actually quite clever. I love the dual guitar solo/melody. It's done in total Maiden style.

Quote from: bosk1 on June 14, 2016, 09:29:14 AM
As far as the rest of the album, again, I like what I am hearing so far. I like that it sounds like classic thrash, but also sounds modernized and not dated. And I do hear some sonic similarities with Drift, but I guess that may largely be attributable to Michael Gilbert being back in the band. Tim, does he write much? I don't know anything about the writing and dynamics of the band. I know Eric is the only member that has stayed on continuously since the beginning, so I am guessing he is heavily involved in the writing. But I don't know to what extent other contribute.

That's a great question about Gilbert. F&J have always credited the whole band when it comes to writing credits. I will say that the 4 albums that do not have Gilbert (and original drummer Kelly Smith) have a totally different feel than the first 6 albums. Sure original guitarist Ed Carlson was there, but they just feel different. I found those first 6 albums had a certain personality.
And even then, the first three (Doomsday, No Place, & Storm) were much thrashier and speedy than the second three (Cuatro, Drift, & High). The new album feels much closer to those first three for me.

I was very excited for Ugly Noise, the previous one to the latest one, as it marked the return of Gilbert and Kelly Smith. I was a bit disappointed as I was hoping for something like this one, but it was very close to High in terms of quality. Not that it's a bad thing, but you know, expectations..
Then this one comes out of nowhere and BAM!

What I also like is that Jason Bittner plays this in a very similar style to Kelly Smith.

Obviously Newsted was the original bassist, but I always thought Troy Gregory had a big influence on the next two albums. Because when he left, it felt like there was a huge shift in style with Cuatro. Bassist Jason Ward was a longtime member from Cuatro right up through Ugly Noise.

But new/current bassist Michael Spencer goes way back with the band though, as he did the Doomsday tour after Newsted left.

I'll also say this about Michael Gilbert. he was always one of the coolest dudes I've ever seen on stage. He was such a little guy, but he was the most intense headbanger I've ever seen.
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Post by: bosk1 on June 14, 2016, 02:56:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 14, 2016, 02:37:19 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on June 14, 2016, 09:29:14 AM
I went right to Iron Maiden because I had to see whether there were going to be lyrical references to the band, or if it was just about medieval torture. (since the font they used in the booklet is completely illegible, I couldn't just read the lyrics to see what the songs are about) It was bugging me that the music and vocal melody sounded somewhat familiar...until midway through the second verse I found myself involuntarily humming the vocal melody from The Trooper over the riff. :lol Anyway, cool little song. Definitely a nod to Maiden, but not quite in the way I expected.
It's actually quite clever. I love the dual guitar solo/melody. It's done in total Maiden style.
Yup. I caught that as well. The galloping riff. The dual guitar leads. The vocal melody. It is Maiden to the core.

Quote from: TAC on June 14, 2016, 02:37:19 PM
F&J have always credited the whole band when it comes to writing credits.

Yeah, I noticed that abut this one. I did not have the other albums handy to check. I'm curious now who does what in the writing department.

Quote from: TAC on June 14, 2016, 02:37:19 PM
I'll also say this about Michael Gilbert. he was always one of the coolest dudes I've ever seen on stage. He was such a little guy, but he was the most intense headbanger I've ever seen.

Hah, yeah, that was one thing that stood out to me the first time I saw them in '95. In a thrash metal festival where most of the band members in the bands present have long, flowing locks, here's this little short spikey haired dude in plain black t-shirt unleashing these crunchy riffs and blistering solos, while headbanging like a mofo. Good to see he has slimmed down. The chunky look back when they released their live album a few years back was not a good look.
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Post by: TAC on June 14, 2016, 02:57:48 PM: Jerry, one more thing. There's not a ton of bootlegs of the classic era, but I had this show on VHS back in the day. It's an awesome boot from The Channel in Boston in 1988. I did not see them in Boston (well I did in '94) but I did see them in Providence a couple of times that year.

If you have a chance, check out No Place For Disgrace from the show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utjO3B0vJkU

You can see how active bassist Troy Gregory was. I was crushed when he left. Ok, crushed is a strong word, but I was very disappointed.

Also, keep your eye on Gilbert, and at :48, his head is about to fall off! :metal

I'm getting goosebumps just watching it. It looks like he has a white collared alligator style shirt on. I always thought that was so funny. I seem to remember him wearing a red one.
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Post by: bosk1 on June 14, 2016, 03:11:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 14, 2016, 02:57:48 PM
Also, keep your eye on Gilbert, and at :48, his head is about to fall off! :metal

:rollin You weren't kidding!
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Post by: bosk1 on June 14, 2016, 05:16:44 PM: Tim, have you seen this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbhmOPbUB-I
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Post by: TAC on June 14, 2016, 05:42:11 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on June 14, 2016, 05:16:44 PM
Tim, have you seen this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbhmOPbUB-I

Hah, I saw that on the youtube page. I clicked on it and it froze my computer. Then I had to make dinner. I'll watch it on my TV tomorrow morning.

EDIT:
That was awesome. All but two songs taken from the first two albums.

Dat riff in Suffer The Masses :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 15, 2016, 09:03:50 AM: Another Jorn song - You're The Voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdTJptlnyiA
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Post by: Bolsters on June 15, 2016, 09:09:18 AM: Amazing.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 15, 2016, 07:58:56 PM: I know some guys touched on the new album from Impellitteri, Venom, a few months ago. I've heard a lot of material from Impellitteri and found them somewhat inconsistent. This included their last album, Wicked Maiden.

But being the big Rob Rock fan that I am, I decided to give this one a chance. Wow, what a scorcher!! This has to be one of the best Rob Rock fronted albums I've ever heard.

Brent if you scored this one, what was the rating?
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Post by: bl5150 on June 15, 2016, 08:07:33 PM: I gave it about 80% Jay - like many recent releases I found it to be quality but all very familiar. It is a fun listen though - when it opened up with " 1,2,3................venoooooooom " I had a big smile on my face. Very metal :lol That opening track was blistering but I didn't think that anything else quite matched it. Solid effort though - not as if 80% is a bad score.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 15, 2016, 09:13:52 PM: Did you ever rate Crush by them? I can't say I was too fond of that one
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Post by: bl5150 on June 16, 2016, 12:40:48 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 15, 2016, 09:13:52 PM
Did you ever rate Crush by them? I can't say I was too fond of that one

No - although I probably have most of his albums I haven't spent much time listening and have only ever rated 3 (all high 70's-low 80's)........of those my fave was Answer To The Master.

I always thought of him as a 2nd rate Malmsteen but now Malmsteen is a 3rd rate Impellitteri :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on June 16, 2016, 01:58:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 15, 2016, 09:13:52 PM
Did you ever rate Crush by them? I can't say I was too fond of that one

I've got that as a special edition with another album on it too, but can't remember which. Yeah, average for the most part. Still the best thing Impelliterri did was the Somewhere Over The Rainbow cover :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on June 16, 2016, 05:45:16 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 16, 2016, 01:58:20 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 15, 2016, 09:13:52 PM
Did you ever rate Crush by them? I can't say I was too fond of that one

I've got that as a special edition with another album on it too, but can't remember which. Yeah, average for the most part. Still the best thing Impelliterri did was the Somewhere Over The Rainbow cover :lol

I had that on a mixtape :lol :blush
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Post by: bl5150 on June 16, 2016, 11:33:59 PM: FYI Kade there's a gig called Shredfest on at a joint called The Back Room in Brisbane on 27th August that includes Taberah in the lineup.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 18, 2016, 02:37:59 PM: Is anyone picking up the Twisted Sister live cd/dvd next month?

I'm getting the cd for sure, on the fence about the dvd.
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Post by: TAC on June 18, 2016, 03:56:04 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 18, 2016, 02:37:59 PM
I'm getting the cd for sure, on the fence about the dvd.

Same here!
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Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2016, 03:46:45 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 16, 2016, 11:33:59 PM
FYI Kade there's a gig called Shredfest on at a joint called The Back Room in Brisbane on 27th August that includes Taberah in the lineup.

Shredfest? Sounds interesting.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2016, 12:12:45 PM: Anyone checked out the Rainbow footage? First night was a bit ropey but they've been OK after that. The singer is excellent. I can see where Ritchie's reference to DIO and Freddie Murcury comes from. The mannerisms are Freddie and he has a look of him. Theres a hint of the voice there too.
He's a better fir than Dougie a White.

Blackmore lost his way a few times when soloing but he did alright.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2016, 12:17:01 PM: I saw the footage that was linked from the Guitar World FB page. It's great to see Blackmore playing that old stuff again. He still nails that Highway Star solo, and still looks pissed off when the others mess up. Just like the good old days. :lol Singer did a good job.
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Post by: TAC on June 21, 2016, 07:07:09 PM: Release Info and a new lyric video from the new Hangar.

https://bravewords.com/news/hangar-release-the-hangar-of-hannibal-lyric-video
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Post by: bl5150 on June 21, 2016, 11:24:19 PM: I probably discover half a dozen new bands most weeks (most of them rubbish) and am rarely rewarded for my trawling , but today I have been. This is quite possibly the first album I have found since my Top 50 that could maybe steal a spot with time. It's an unknown gem from that early 90's period (there are so many of those) with a great singer, great guitarist (with some groove that most are missing) and music that is quite varied and interesting with a mostly hard rock/metal context. Everything from straight up metal to Spanish guitars , blues, ballads...............you name it.

Another recent first - I have listened to that same album 3 times in a row. I used to do that regularly (listen albums to death) but almost never these days.

My rating : 97%

Look out for a special bracket for them in the next podcast which (even if I do say so) is already a must listen.. For an indication as to the heaviness of the metal side of this feature band, think Fifth Angel/Arch Rival/TNT.

New Fates Warning up next , but need to listen to this one again :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2016, 11:34:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 21, 2016, 11:24:19 PM
I probably discover half a dozen new bands most weeks (most of them rubbish) and am rarely rewarded for my trawling , but today I have been. This is quite possibly the first album I have found since my Top 50 that could maybe steal a spot with time. It's an unknown gem from that early 90's period (there are so many of those) with a great singer, great guitarist (with some groove that most are missing) and music that is quite varied and interesting with a mostly hard rock/metal context. Everything from straight up metal to Spanish guitars , blues, ballads...............you name it.

Another recent first - I have listened to that same album 3 times in a row. I used to do that regularly (listen albums to death) but almost never these days.

My rating : 97%

Look out for a special bracket for them in the next podcast which (even if I do say so) is already a must listen.. For an indication as to the heaviness of the metal side of this feature band, think Fifth Angel/Arch Rival.

New Fates Warning up next , but need to listen to this one again :metal

Give me the name now, you bastard!
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Post by: bl5150 on June 21, 2016, 11:37:00 PM: You won't like it Blob , it's good ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2016, 11:38:11 PM: Early 90s, bitch! Now you're in my house. Unless it's past December 31 1992. Then it's definitely shit.
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Post by: TAC on June 22, 2016, 05:19:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 21, 2016, 11:24:19 PM

Look out for a special bracket for them in the next podcast which (even if I do say so) is already a must listen..

They are ALL Must Listens!
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Post by: TAC on June 22, 2016, 12:28:57 PM: Queensryche/Armored Saint tour! :omg:

https://bravewords.com/news/queensryche-announce-us-fall-headline-tour-with-armored-saint-midnight-eternal

Wut? No Boston date??
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Post by: Lowdz on June 22, 2016, 02:10:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 21, 2016, 11:24:19 PM
I probably discover half a dozen new bands most weeks (most of them rubbish) and am rarely rewarded for my trawling , but today I have been. This is quite possibly the first album I have found since my Top 50 that could maybe steal a spot with time. It's an unknown gem from that early 90's period (there are so many of those) with a great singer, great guitarist (with some groove that most are missing) and music that is quite varied and interesting with a mostly hard rock/metal context. Everything from straight up metal to Spanish guitars , blues, ballads...............you name it.

Another recent first - I have listened to that same album 3 times in a row. I used to do that regularly (listen albums to death) but almost never these days.

My rating : 97%

Look out for a special bracket for them in the next podcast which (even if I do say so) is already a must listen.. For an indication as to the heaviness of the metal side of this feature band, think Fifth Angel/Arch Rival/TNT.

New Fates Warning up next , but need to listen to this one again :metal

Very interesting. Would I know it?
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Post by: bosk1 on June 22, 2016, 02:26:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 22, 2016, 12:28:57 PM
Queensryche/Armored Saint tour! :omg:

https://bravewords.com/news/queensryche-announce-us-fall-headline-tour-with-armored-saint-midnight-eternal

Wut? No Boston date??
Yup. I don't really care for Saint. But that is a good pairing. Those that have been decrying them touring with "hair metal" bands can now officially chill. :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 22, 2016, 02:33:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 22, 2016, 12:28:57 PM
Queensryche/Armored Saint tour! :omg:

https://bravewords.com/news/queensryche-announce-us-fall-headline-tour-with-armored-saint-midnight-eternal

Wut? No Boston date??

Talk about putting the screws directly into you Tim.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 22, 2016, 02:42:05 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 22, 2016, 02:10:47 PM

Very interesting. Would I know it?

Hard to say - I didn't know them but you might

Quote from: kingshmegland on June 22, 2016, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 22, 2016, 12:28:57 PM
Queensryche/Armored Saint tour! :omg:

https://bravewords.com/news/queensryche-announce-us-fall-headline-tour-with-armored-saint-midnight-eternal

Wut? No Boston date??

Talk about putting the screws directly into you Tim.

Armored Saint also co-headlined some dates with Metal Church earlier in the month - that would've been awesome too.
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Post by: TAC on June 22, 2016, 02:44:56 PM: I LOVE LOVE LOVE Armored Saint. Along with Accept (especially classic Accept), they are in the back end of my Top 10 bands.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 22, 2016, 02:49:14 PM: Symbol of Salvation was #40 in my DTF Top 50 - probably should've been higher. So yeah - not Top 10 for me but very influential in my life all the same.

And #40 means a lot when it's out of a squillion albums :lol
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Post by: TAC on June 22, 2016, 02:58:29 PM: I'm very proud of you! :tup
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Post by: bl5150 on June 22, 2016, 03:06:16 PM: New album coming from these guys Paul

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42201.msg2038745#msg2038745

Sorry - had to resurrect that one :angel:
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 22, 2016, 03:28:32 PM: An Armored Saint/Queensryche double billing is like a dream concert! It doesnt get much better then that
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Post by: TAC on June 22, 2016, 03:30:44 PM: WTF is this??
https://bravewords.com/news/ratt-to-perform-as-direct-support-for-miranda-lambert

Is Blotzer the only original guy in Ratt? Why the F would anyone care about this band? Does anyone still listen to them? They sucked when they were good ( which was never)!
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Post by: bl5150 on June 22, 2016, 03:33:23 PM: That singer is actually damn good live , but yeah............Blotzer has his cover band (the best one), Croucier has his one where he sings. Unfortunately the main talent (Demartini) is doing nothing. Bloody weird gig combo there.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 22, 2016, 03:33:59 PM: Never heard of Miranda Lambert, but I don't like the sounds of this at all.
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Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2016, 03:55:39 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 22, 2016, 03:06:16 PM
New album coming from these guys Paul

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42201.msg2038745#msg2038745

Sorry - had to resurrect that one :angel:

Fuck yeah, looking forward to this one.
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Post by: TAC on June 22, 2016, 07:59:47 PM: I was just in the package store tonight, and Back In Black (the song) was on. Damn, if that isn't one of the greatest hard rock songs ever recorded.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 22, 2016, 09:39:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 22, 2016, 07:59:47 PM
I was just in the package store tonight, and Back In Black (the song) was on. Damn, if that isn't one of the greatest hard rock songs ever recorded.

Package store seems like a code for something else lol

But yeah, that song and album can only be described as classic. Actually I would say my favorite song from that album is probably the least known tune- Let Me Put My Love Into You
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Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2016, 05:42:25 AM: Denner/Shermann vid;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdFlFM-OObw

I don't know what to think of this. I actually think it lacks some balls and is pretty damn cheesy, but it's something that could grow on me. Seems flat and the guitars aren't powerful at all.
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Post by: TAC on June 23, 2016, 05:47:45 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 22, 2016, 09:39:51 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 22, 2016, 07:59:47 PM
I was just in the package store tonight, and Back In Black (the song) was on. Damn, if that isn't one of the greatest hard rock songs ever recorded.

Package store seems like a code for something else lol

Package Store is code for where we buy alcohol! :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on June 26, 2016, 06:53:32 AM: Just leaving this here. Rainbow, soldier of fortune

https://youtu.be/uNbH7X6JOBw
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Post by: jonny108 on June 26, 2016, 07:35:37 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 26, 2016, 06:53:32 AM
Just leaving this here. Rainbow, soldier of fortune

https://youtu.be/uNbH7X6JOBw

I was there. Phenomenal gig. I had shivers throughout the whole concert. Stargazer was unreal. :metal
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Post by: Evermind on June 26, 2016, 08:06:32 AM: Holy shit... I was they'd come to Russia with this gig. I have shivers from just listening to this YouTube vid. This is one of my favourite ballads ever.

Edit: is there any information if they filmed it for a live release or something? I would buy this in a heartbeat.
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Post by: TAC on June 26, 2016, 12:33:17 PM: Wow, a great setlist!

That dude has some pipes. What an amazing job he does on Catch The Rainbow. WOW!!!!!
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Post by: Lowdz on June 26, 2016, 01:37:44 PM: Awesome vocalist. Takes on several great and the inquest singers' works and nails them.
So gutted I missed this. More dates needed.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 26, 2016, 05:26:45 PM: Great performance!!
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Post by: TAC on June 27, 2016, 03:27:43 PM: Primal Fear recording a CD/DVD from this tour.
https://bravewords.com/news/primal-fears-mat-sinner-weve-recorded-a-concert-for-a-dvd-and-live-cd

Looking at the band picture, do they really have 3 guitar players?
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 27, 2016, 06:35:41 PM: Cool, Primal Fear is overdue for a live album.

Still waiting on Symphony X and Queensryche to also release one
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Post by: TAC on June 27, 2016, 06:59:58 PM: So I'm watching the Red Sox tonight and this season, they are highlighting the Pennant Winning 1986 team for it's 30th Anniversary.

In that spirit, here are the shows I saw in 1986. I turned 18 in September of that year.

I had tix to see Ozzy/Metallica in April, but the show was postponed to September. I ended up selling my tickets because Metallica was not part of the rescheduled show. Queensryche was, and frankly I was not a fan of The Ultimate Sin or Rage For Order.

1986..3/18..Aerosmith, Ted Nugent.. Providence Civic Center
1986..6/4..Judas Priest, Dokken.. Providence Civic Center
1986..6/14..UFO..The Living Room, Providence
1986..6/18..Dio, Accept.. Providence Civic Center
1986..8/22..Van Halen, Bachman Turner Overdrive.. Providence Civic Center
1986..9/14..Emerson Lake and Powell..Providence Performing Arts Center
1986..9/19..AC/DC, Loudness.. Providence Civic Center
1986..11/19..Alice Cooper, Vinnie Vincent Invasion..Worcester Centrum
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 27, 2016, 07:09:13 PM: I don't know what's more of a TAC ultimate show

Iron Maiden/Dream Theater or Dio/Accept?
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Post by: TAC on June 27, 2016, 07:17:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 27, 2016, 07:09:13 PM
I don't know what's more of a TAC ultimate show

Iron Maiden/Dream Theater or Dio/Accept?

Or Iron Maiden/Accept (6/2/85) or Iron Maiden/Dio (7/18/98) ;D

I saw Dio in 1985 with Vivian on the Sacred Heart tour. He did an abbreviated tour in '86 with Crag Goldie. So happy to see Accept again. I loved Russian Roulette.
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Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2016, 04:44:27 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 27, 2016, 03:27:43 PM
Primal Fear recording a CD/DVD from this tour.
https://bravewords.com/news/primal-fears-mat-sinner-weve-recorded-a-concert-for-a-dvd-and-live-cd

Looking at the band picture, do they really have 3 guitar players?

Yes. Magnus doesn't tour, they only go on the road with Alex and Tom. Tom is a returning member that has been with the band on and off since the very start.
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Post by: TAC on July 03, 2016, 05:09:05 AM: Ok cool. Thanks!
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Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2016, 05:14:00 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 03, 2016, 05:09:05 AM
Ok cool. Thanks!

I know what you were thinking, but I don't think the band ever considered changing their simplistic sound to somehow involve 3 guitarists, it just sort of worked out that way with the lineups, it wasn't a move done on purpose. Magnus was a member before Alex and he rarely toured and Alex was always being the fill in live guitarist for Magnus. When Henny left, it was only natural that Alex became an actual member.
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Post by: TAC on July 04, 2016, 01:25:01 PM: Cool. I wasn't thinking anything really. I assumed they had two guitarists so I was surprised to see a pic with 3 of them. I have bought their last few albums, but on Amazon mp3, so obviously no booklet.

This sounds interesting:
https://bravewords.com/news/rik-emmett-reunites-with-triumph-bandmates-for-res9-project-rush-dream-theater-members-also-involved
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Post by: TAC on July 05, 2016, 09:35:16 AM: Yikes!

https://www.twistedsister.com/amnesia-shitfest-montebello-quebec-canada-24-june-2016/
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Post by: bosk1 on July 05, 2016, 09:54:23 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 05, 2016, 09:35:16 AM
Yikes!

https://www.twistedsister.com/amnesia-shitfest-montebello-quebec-canada-24-june-2016/
Wow.
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Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2016, 04:40:35 AM: New Michael Sweet solo album - August 26th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl5PgzbZy-8&feature=youtu.be

Hmmm....could be okay.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 10, 2016, 05:01:52 AM: I like that :metal

Ethan Brosh is a great guitarist
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Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2016, 05:04:26 AM: I've don't know anything about him to be honest, but what he's doing here is hell impressive.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 10, 2016, 05:12:32 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 10, 2016, 05:04:26 AM
I've don't know anything about him to be honest, but what he's doing here is hell impressive.

I have one of his shred instrumental albums. Thought someone (megadave?) might have snapped him up before now.
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Post by: wolfking on July 12, 2016, 05:30:35 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/pagans-mind-secret-sphere-symphony-x-ex-helloween-members-join-forces-in-shadowspell/

Will keep my eye on this, but not getting my hopes up just yet.
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Post by: TAC on July 12, 2016, 05:34:14 AM: ...and the guitarist from Odd Dimension. I'm looking forward to checking this out. I saw this yesterday and was hoping there would be a sample.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 12, 2016, 05:35:28 AM: That has some major potential
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Post by: TAC on July 15, 2016, 02:55:22 PM: New track from Hangar. Love the instrumental part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azMSVaSAIDo
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Post by: wolfking on July 15, 2016, 03:13:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 15, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
New track from Hangar. Love the instrumental part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azMSVaSAIDo

This is a cool fucking band. Love the shred.
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Post by: TAC on July 15, 2016, 03:24:28 PM: Definitely getting this. Priester is a beast(er)!
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Post by: Prog Snob on July 15, 2016, 05:16:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 12, 2016, 05:30:35 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/pagans-mind-secret-sphere-symphony-x-ex-helloween-members-join-forces-in-shadowspell/

Will keep my eye on this, but not getting my hopes up just yet.

It has the potential to be awesome, but like you said, let's wait and see.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 15, 2016, 05:52:54 PM: Shadowspell .............another name hot off the press of the Frontiers name generator machine.
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Post by: TAC on July 15, 2016, 06:55:30 PM: It's like they have two dice.

One with names like:
Secret
Soul
Shadow
Fire

And the other with names like:
Quest
Spell
Seeker
Signal
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Post by: Lowdz on July 16, 2016, 01:45:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 15, 2016, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 15, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
New track from Hangar. Love the instrumental part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azMSVaSAIDo

This is a cool fucking band. Love the shred.

I've sampled them before but they don't do anything for me. This doesn't change that.
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Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2016, 06:21:02 AM: New Vicious Rumors;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5updnhm9a4

Pretty fucking solid. Haven't checked them out yet after Paul sent them too me in my roulette, but I might start with this new one.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 21, 2016, 12:52:18 PM: The new singer of VR has seemed to help rejuvenate the band a bit
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Post by: Lowdz on July 21, 2016, 02:59:53 PM: That's ok. Not struck on the singer and it's not up there with their best, but yeah, it's ok.

Kade, you need Digital Dictator.
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Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2016, 03:05:03 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 21, 2016, 02:59:53 PM
Kade, you need Digital Dictator.

Noted mate.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 22, 2016, 02:13:41 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 21, 2016, 03:05:03 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 21, 2016, 02:59:53 PM
Kade, you need Digital Dictator.

Noted mate.

Note it big time Kade. Digital Dictator is a must buy!
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Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2016, 06:26:22 AM: Aye captain!
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Post by: Big Hath on July 22, 2016, 08:27:16 AM: the wife got us Queensryche/Armored Saint tickets yesterday for my birthday

:metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on July 22, 2016, 08:58:23 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on July 22, 2016, 08:27:16 AM
the wife got us Queensryche/Armored Saint tickets yesterday for my birthday

:metal :metal

now thaaaaaaaaat's a present :metal
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Post by: Big Hath on July 22, 2016, 09:07:48 AM: yes indeed! can't wait. It's at a pretty cool venue here as well.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 22, 2016, 09:08:24 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on July 22, 2016, 08:27:16 AM
the wife got us Queensryche/Armored Saint tickets yesterday for my birthday

:metal :metal

That lady sounds like a keeper!!
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Post by: Big Hath on July 22, 2016, 09:26:07 AM: you don't know how lucky I am. I outkicked my coverage by a looong distance.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2016, 02:56:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 22, 2016, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on July 22, 2016, 08:27:16 AM
the wife got us Queensryche/Armored Saint tickets yesterday for my birthday

:metal :metal

now thaaaaaaaaat's a present :metal

What a woman!
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Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2016, 03:22:44 PM: New Michael Sweet;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I31Sw_654rg

Not bad.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 22, 2016, 08:46:58 PM: Thats an ass kicker for sure!

I noticed that Todd Kerns is in the band. He was the lead singer of an obscure mid 90s Canadian rock band called Age of Electric. Brent probably hasnt even heard of those guys.
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Post by: Evermind on July 23, 2016, 01:53:38 AM: New Serious Black in September!

Serious Black - Official to release sophomore album "Mirrorworld" out on September 9th via AFM Records!

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13781722_1451914654834185_3810323130278705258_n.jpg?oh=5eb0c13f88d4793531213fc7be149bd2&oe=57EC4528)

The year 2015 started more than promising for fans of high class melodic metal: SERIOUS BLACK, a so-called “allstar band” appeared on the scene and dropped their highly acclaimed debut album ‘As Daylight Breaks’. Much to the surprise of many, the band indeed proved to be a real band and they kept their promise of rocking the stages wherever possible. So during only a year they not only successfully released a fantastic debut album, but also went on extensive European tours with HammerFall and later Gamma Ray. In addition, SERIOUS BLACK was chosen to be special guest on Kamelot’s German Summer shows and also played numerous festivals in Europe. Being that active in the past 18 months, it’s surprising to see the band announcing a brand new studio album already. You’ll be even more surprise when “Mirrorworld” sees its release: SERIOUS BLACK have managed to excel their excellent debut! Prepare for something special: the “Mirrorworld” opens on September 9th…

"Mirrorworld" will be available as CD, Digipak (7 bonus tracks), ltd. Vinyl, ltd. Vinyl bundle ("Mirrorworld" + "As Daylight Breaks") & ltd. box set.

Tracklisting:
01 Breaking The Surface
02 As Long As I’m Alive
03 Castor Skies
04 Heartbroken Soul
05 Dying Hearts
06 You’re Not Alone
07 Mirrorworld
08 Emotional Blackmail (Digipak Bonus)
09 The Life That You Want (Digipak Bonus)
10 State of My Despair
11 The Unborn Never Die
12 This Machine Is Broken (Digipak Bonus)
13 Hello Moon (Digipak Bonus)
14 Goodbye My Angel (Digipak Bonus)
15 I Show You My Heart - Acoustic Version (Digipak Bonus)
16 Sealing My Fate - Acoustic Version (Digipak Bonus)
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Post by: TAC on July 23, 2016, 08:49:13 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on July 22, 2016, 09:26:07 AM
you don't know how lucky I am. I outkicked my coverage by a looong distance.
Pretty much everyone here has! :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on July 23, 2016, 03:46:43 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 22, 2016, 08:46:58 PM
Thats an ass kicker for sure!

I noticed that Todd Kerns is in the band. He was the lead singer of an obscure mid 90s Canadian rock band called Age of Electric. Brent probably hasnt even heard of those guys.

I wouldn't count on it. I bow down in the presence of the mighty Zbrent when it comes to obscure melodic rock and metal. :metal :hefdaddy

And great news on a new Serious Black. Really enjoyed the last one.
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Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2016, 04:33:46 AM: Fuck yeah, first album was really excellent. Too bad Roland isn't in the band anymore.

Quote from: jjrock88 on July 22, 2016, 08:46:58 PM
Brent probably hasnt even heard of those guys.

:rollin Come on jj, really!!?
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2016, 02:59:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2016, 04:33:46 AM
Fuck yeah, first album was really excellent. Too bad Roland isn't in the band anymore.

Quote from: jjrock88 on July 22, 2016, 08:46:58 PM
Brent probably hasnt even heard of those guys.

:rollin Come on jj, really!!?

lol, at this point I'm grasping at straws
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Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2016, 08:58:39 PM: hahaha.

Also just realised how many digipak bonus tracks are on that Serious Black. 5 songs and 2 acoustic versions, wow, don't think I ever recall seeing that many before.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 28, 2016, 04:16:58 AM: I only just noticed that Scorpions are playing one Australian show (in Melbourne) later this year - tix just went on sale and it's around $130 per ticket. It'll be interesting to see how it sells but not sure I can justify it at that price.
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2016, 06:21:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2016, 04:16:58 AM
I only just noticed that Scorpions are playing one Australian show (in Melbourne) later this year - tix just went on sale and it's around $130 per ticket. It'll be interesting to see how it sells but not sure I can justify it at that price.

I seriously don't see many people forking out that amount of money for the Scorpions.
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2016, 06:25:02 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/jon-oliva-recovering-from-stroke/

Unfortuantely, something like this was only a matter of time. Glad he's recovering well though.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 28, 2016, 06:30:35 AM: Good to hear that Jon got a "warning shot" rather than something worse. As you say - he was an accident waiting to happen with the lifestyle/weight he was carrying.
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2016, 06:34:53 AM: Yeah, I always feared much worse for him. Hopefully a wake up call he needs.
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Post by: Prog Snob on July 28, 2016, 06:40:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 28, 2016, 06:25:02 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/jon-oliva-recovering-from-stroke/

Unfortuantely, something like this was only a matter of time. Glad he's recovering well though.

I thought the same thing. I felt like more sooner than later we were going to hear about him dying or having something like this happen.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on July 28, 2016, 09:35:46 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 28, 2016, 06:21:21 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2016, 04:16:58 AM
I only just noticed that Scorpions are playing one Australian show (in Melbourne) later this year - tix just went on sale and it's around $130 per ticket. It'll be interesting to see how it sells but not sure I can justify it at that price.

I seriously don't see many people forking out that amount of money for the Scorpions.
How often do the Scorps make it to Australia, though? I know they've already done one Farewell tour. But, with these bands, you never know how much is left in the tank. Plus, everyone I know who saw them last time around when QR was opening for them said they were awesome.

All that being said, I couldn't justify $130 for them either. I'm just not that big a fan. I was supposed to see them back in '88 on the Monsters of Rock tour at the 2nd Giants Stadium show. Unfortunately, the it was cancelled.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 28, 2016, 10:23:01 AM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on July 28, 2016, 09:35:46 AM

How often do the Scorps make it to Australia, though?
Never - first time afaik. I have never been a massive fanboy but it'll be a shame to miss it. Struggling to afford it too with Queensryche about the same time.............Symphony X too if I can make it (and much cheaper)
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 28, 2016, 12:56:04 PM: Would like to see the Scorpions, but wouldnt pay that much for them.
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2016, 03:05:20 PM: More Geoff Tate shite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI1bdc0xxxQ

I listened with an open mind, but not good, and he just sounds awful.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 28, 2016, 03:29:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 28, 2016, 03:05:20 PM
More Geoff Tate shite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI1bdc0xxxQ

I listened with an open mind, but not good, and he just sounds awful.

I will check out the ripper and blaze song though.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 28, 2016, 09:13:35 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 28, 2016, 03:05:20 PM
More Geoff Tate shite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI1bdc0xxxQ

I listened with an open mind, but not good, and he just sounds awful.

reminds me a bit of HITNF era - nothing I am interested in hearing more of , but not the worst he has done in recent times.
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Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2016, 04:33:07 PM: True, it's not as bad as some of his last couple of turds.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 30, 2016, 03:16:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 29, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
True, it's not as bad as some of his last couple of turds.

You're review for FU is still something to see
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Post by: Lowdz on July 30, 2016, 03:51:39 PM: I must be listening to something different because I thought it was complete and utter shit. Even HITNF was a classic compared to this.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 30, 2016, 09:53:54 PM: It's utter shit but he has released shittier shit :lol
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Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2016, 04:41:17 AM: :rollin
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Post by: Lowdz on July 31, 2016, 11:10:19 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 30, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
It's utter shit but he has released shittier shit :lol

When you get to a certain point shit is just shit. No need to grade it further :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on July 31, 2016, 11:25:55 AM: (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-1AlRy13Hp4/hqdefault.jpg)

"It's so shit. I mean how much more shit can it be?"
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 31, 2016, 02:32:47 PM: Some shit lingo from the classic Canadian tv series Trailer Park Boys:

1) Shitballs: When you keep getting hit by shit balls, you gotta get a shit bat.

2) Shitabyss: The abyss of shit. "...when a man stares into the Shitabyss

3) Shitapple: Trinity (Used in a similar manner of "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree") ("A Shit Leopard Can't Change Its Spots")

4) Shitbarrometer: Measures the "Shitpressure" in the air.

5) Shithawks: A big shitty bird that swoops down and shits on people.

6) Shiticane: A hurricane of which shit blows around, caused by a Shitsystem. Mr. Lahey was calling Julian while in the middle of one.

7) Shitnami: A tsunami tidal wave of shit, unleashed to extinguish the shitflames. Mr. Lahey desires to release one on Ricky.

8) Shitidiots: Ricky, Julian and Bubbles

9) Shitiots: Ricky, Julian and Bubbles

10) Shitline: The line, used in the same manner of "crossing the line", as in when someone has gone too far.

11) Shitleopard: Ricky and his unchangeable ways, the term is used by Jim and Erica exactly as "a leopard can't change his spots".

12) Shit Machine Gun: Loads of trouble for the person that "loaded" the weapon. Randy expressed confusion to Lahey's description.

13) Shitmonkeys: Cory and Trevor from the Conky episode.

14) Shitmoths: Shitcaterpillars like Ricky which, given enough time, cocoon and eventually transform into shitmoths.

15) Shitnami Tidal Wave: A wall of water which will engulf Ricky's "Shitflame" and extinguish it.

16) Shitpuppets: A number of people, mostly the criminal element and the "losers" of Sunnyvale Trailer Park that Jim works to get jailed.

17) Shitrats: Bubbles' cats

18) Shitrope: A rope, covered in shit, that criminals try to climb up to avoid arrest. But the tighter you hold on to the rope, the faster you slide down.

19) Shitseeds: These grow into Shitweeds.

20) Shitweeds: These grew from Shitseeds.

21) Shitstorm Troopers: Julian and Ricky.

22) Shitwinds: Also referred to as "the winds of shit".

23) Shitwolf: Crucial piece of evidence needed to send Ricky, Julian and Bubbles to jail

24) Captain Shitacular - Referring to Ricky. Mr Lahey calls Ricky this while he is "raising shit in Sunnyvale again.

25) Shit tectonics: Pressure that builds causing a Shitquake.

26) Shitipillars: Jim Lahey's alcohol

27) Shitfruit: The fruit off of a shittree

28) Shitbox: Referring to Julians Trailer or generalizing buildings.

29) Shitmobile: Ricky's car

30) Shitstorm: You better bring in the jib before it gets covered in shit.
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Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2016, 02:41:46 PM: :rollin Nice work j.
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Post by: TAC on July 31, 2016, 05:46:18 PM: That's a JJ World Record Longest Post!

Bigger than his last 20 posts combined! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 31, 2016, 06:09:30 PM: shit
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Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 06:00:16 AM: Some Kai hansen solo thing. He's doing he's best Hammerfall impression here. So unoriginal, and his voice sounds weird. The part right at the end of the chorus is a short rip off Priest's Rock Hard Ride Free. Meh. Cool he's trying to do something different though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGkwVVYkWTw
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Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 07:07:18 AM: Holy shit, that sucks! Wow!
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Post by: Lowdz on August 02, 2016, 08:16:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 06:00:16 AM
Some Kai hansen solo thing. He's doing he's best Hammerfall impression here. So unoriginal, and his voice sounds weird. The part right at the end of the chorus is a short rip off Priest's Rock Hard Ride Free. Meh. Cool he's trying to do something different though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGkwVVYkWTw

Yeah, good catch on the Rock Hard Ride Free chorus.
It's ok I suppose but if this was JLB he'd be catching some shit for the effects on the vocals.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 02, 2016, 01:31:33 PM: I wouldn't rank it at the suck level like Tim, but I never want to hear that song again though.
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Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 01:57:51 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 02, 2016, 01:31:33 PM
I wouldn't rank it at the suck level like Tim, but I never want to hear that song again though.

Not sure how it works in Canada, but here in the States, Sucks=never want to hear it again! ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 02, 2016, 02:03:01 PM: I would just rank it "meh" level
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Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 02:52:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 02, 2016, 02:03:01 PM
I would just rank it "meh" level

Same. I love Kai but this isn't great at all.

Quote from: Lowdz on August 02, 2016, 08:16:01 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 06:00:16 AM
Some Kai hansen solo thing. He's doing he's best Hammerfall impression here. So unoriginal, and his voice sounds weird. The part right at the end of the chorus is a short rip off Priest's Rock Hard Ride Free. Meh. Cool he's trying to do something different though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGkwVVYkWTw

Yeah, good catch on the Rock Hard Ride Free chorus.
It's ok I suppose but if this was JLB he'd be catching some shit for the effects on the vocals.

The effects are just horrid.
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Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 02:59:25 PM: I love Kai too. Looking at him and those young dudes, it looks like a tune made at some Heavy Metal Fantasy Camp.
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Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 03:00:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 02, 2016, 02:59:25 PM
I love Kai too. Looking at him and those young dudes, it looks like a tune made at some Heavy Metal Fantasy Camp.

:lol

I'll give the album a listen but not expecting anything, which is a shame.
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Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 03:06:42 PM: Not sure if all of you guys go there, but I posted some pics of The TAC Summer Vacation in the Post Your Picture thread.

After seeing Mount Rushmore, I obviously had to bust out some Deep Purple!
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 02, 2016, 04:00:55 PM: I was at Mount Rushmore once. Of course that was the one day that there was major fog and couldn't see jack shit lol.

But still a good excuse to listen to Deep Purple!!
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Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 06:34:28 AM: I don't think anyone will really be interested in this, but new song from Charred Walls of the Damed. The band featuring Tim Owens, Jason Suecof, Steve Digiorgio and Richard Christy. I really like their first two albums and this is some good heavy shit. Album coming in September!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rPKGEuTYE&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: TAC on August 05, 2016, 09:47:36 AM: I heard this yesterday and meant to post it. I actually skipped previous Charred Walls. Too many bands, too little time. But I checked this out and unfortunately I didn't love it. And I like Ripper a lot. Something just didn't sit right though. Only one listen. Will Spotify the rest when it comes out.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on August 05, 2016, 11:40:54 AM: I was thinking... I was 3 when Van Halen's first album came out. I got to thinking what it must have been like at the time to be old enough to hear and appreciate such groundbreaking guitar work for the first time ever along with everyone else. Especially if you were a guitar player. Then with each subsequent album, eagerly anticipating its release, wondering WTF EVH would play next. That had to be an absolutely magical experience.
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Post by: Podaar on August 05, 2016, 11:49:26 AM: I was a Junior in High School when in it came out Coz. I'm not a guitar player but I do remember just sitting there mesmerized by the tone of the guitar. The first song I heard was "Jamie's Crying" and that sustained note (you know the one I'm talking about) was just hypnotic. Not to much later, I heard "Running With The Devil" and I just ran out and bought the record. It's no exaggeration to say, my friends and I listened to nothing else for eight straight months.
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Post by: Stadler on August 05, 2016, 12:20:08 PM: I didn't hear it UPON RELEASE, but I got into the "real time" cycle with Fair Warning. It was as you suspect, "What will Ed do next?" But I can't emphasize enough, NO ONE sounded like Eddie back then. Listening to Eruption (then "...And The Cradle Will Rock", and "Mean Streets") there was no one who played like him. Come '84 or so, everyone and their brother was doing the tapping (and you had every LA player posing for dumb pictures like this:
(https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q591/Stadler111/M%20St%20John_zpsw8bj1exo.jpg)

(https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q591/Stadler111/STEVELYNCH_zpsokmeucnr.jpg)

What exactly is Mark St. John playing there? I don't see that being in any way musical...
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on August 05, 2016, 12:31:18 PM: No clue and yeah, it looks ridiculous.. Now with Steve Lynch, there's possibilities, with the 8-fingered tapping thing, though his appear to all be on separate strings. Take "(You Can Still) Rock in America" by Night Ranger. Here's a live version of it from the M3 festival in 2012 (I was there). Joel Hoekstra plays the 8FT part (at 2:29) and I remain as blown away by it as anything I've ever seen on the guitar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oeN47yxERY
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 12:46:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 06:34:28 AM
I don't think anyone will really be interested in this, but new song from Charred Walls of the Damed. The band featuring Tim Owens, Jason Suecof, Steve Digiorgio and Richard Christy. I really like their first two albums and this is some good heavy shit. Album coming in September!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rPKGEuTYE&feature=youtu.be

I liked the first album, but I found the second album just blurred together with each song. Sounds good, but I likely won't get it.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 05, 2016, 02:10:35 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 06:34:28 AM
I don't think anyone will really be interested in this, but new song from Charred Walls of the Damed. The band featuring Tim Owens, Jason Suecof, Steve Digiorgio and Richard Christy. I really like their first two albums and this is some good heavy shit. Album coming in September!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rPKGEuTYE&feature=youtu.be

I liked the first album, but I found the second album just blurred together with each song. Sounds good, but I likely won't get it.

Not listened to this before and quite liked it. I'm just not a big fan of Ripper. I find his voice emotionless or soulless I think. Something doesn't do it for me anyway.
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Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 02:24:52 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 06:34:28 AM
I don't think anyone will really be interested in this, but new song from Charred Walls of the Damed. The band featuring Tim Owens, Jason Suecof, Steve Digiorgio and Richard Christy. I really like their first two albums and this is some good heavy shit. Album coming in September!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rPKGEuTYE&feature=youtu.be

I liked the first album, but I found the second album just blurred together with each song. Sounds good, but I likely won't get it.

Yeah, the first album was a lot better than the second one IMO too.

Quote from: Lowdz on August 05, 2016, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 06:34:28 AM
I don't think anyone will really be interested in this, but new song from Charred Walls of the Damed. The band featuring Tim Owens, Jason Suecof, Steve Digiorgio and Richard Christy. I really like their first two albums and this is some good heavy shit. Album coming in September!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rPKGEuTYE&feature=youtu.be

I liked the first album, but I found the second album just blurred together with each song. Sounds good, but I likely won't get it.

Not listened to this before and quite liked it. I'm just not a big fan of Ripper. I find his voice emotionless or soulless I think. Something doesn't do it for me anyway.

I can totally see why people don't really dig Ripper that much. I think he sounds good here anyway.
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Post by: TAC on August 05, 2016, 02:57:43 PM: @ Lowdz... I understand your point, but one thing Owens totally nails is Gettysburgh 1863.

Quote from: Stadler on August 05, 2016, 12:20:08 PM
I didn't hear it UPON RELEASE, but I got into the "real time" cycle with Fair Warning.

Same here. You're right. No one sounded like Eddie. It was so fresh and exciting, and so was the band for that matter. Just a FUN band to listen to. Great to throw a frisbee at the beach to.
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Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 03:44:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 05, 2016, 02:57:43 PM
@ Lowdz... I understand your point, but one thing Owens totally nails is Gettysburgh 1863.

Brilliant piece of music this, the whole thing, love it. Underrated IMO.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 04:26:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 03:44:23 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 05, 2016, 02:57:43 PM
@ Lowdz... I understand your point, but one thing Owens totally nails is Gettysburgh 1863.

Brilliant piece of music this, the whole thing, love it. Underrated IMO.

That is a brilliant song. That whole album is actually; near the very top for me overall from Iced Earth.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 05, 2016, 04:31:31 PM: Listening now and enjoying it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 04:35:56 PM: :tup
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Post by: TAC on August 05, 2016, 04:38:04 PM: Jon Shaffer does a great job capturing the atmosphere of the Gettysburg battle. It follows right along to The Killer Angels, the same book that the Gettysburg movie was based on.
My favorite part of the trilogy is the very beginning of Hold At All Costs where Armistead speaks to Hancock about "if I ever draw my sword on you, may the good Lord strike me dead".
And that's exactly what happened. Just as Armistead reached the wall at the feet of Hancock's troops, he was killed.
I get goosebumps every time I hear that part. As I said, Owens nails it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 04:47:30 PM: Yeah that song is just epic all around.

Also Ripper shows off piercing screaming metal 101 in the song, "The Reckoning"
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Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 04:54:06 PM: One of my fav parts is that amazing climax in Red Baron, Ripper owns it there.

Quote from: TAC on August 05, 2016, 04:38:04 PM
Jon Shaffer does a great job capturing the atmosphere of the Gettysburg battle. It follows right along to The Killer Angels, the same book that the Gettysburg movie was based on.
My favorite part of the trilogy is the very beginning of Hold At All Costs where Armistead speaks to Hancock about "if I ever draw my sword on you, may the good Lord strike me dead".
And that's exactly what happened. Just as Armistead reached the wall at the feet of Hancock's troops, he was killed.
I get goosebumps every time I hear that part. As I said, Owens nails it.

Brilliant stuff. I always wanted to check the Gettysburg DVD but the price never warranted the purchse. Jon sure knows his shit though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 04:57:20 PM: To say that Jon is obsessed with the American Civil War would be an understatement lol.

I also remember finding it humerous that when Iced Earth re-recorded the Something Wicked trilogy with Ripper, some interviewer asked Ripper about the trilogy and Owens said he didn't have a hot clue what he was singing about.
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Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 04:59:27 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 04:57:20 PM
I also remember finding it humerous that when Iced Earth re-recorded the Something Wicked trilogy with Ripper, some interviewer asked Ripper about the trilogy and Owens said he didn't have a hot clue what he was singing about.

:lol Still nailed it.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 05, 2016, 10:46:54 PM: I agree with everything Coz said of course (re VH) - I am of similar age and they really never made radio here - that I can recall anyway - until 1984. I was so obsessed with Van Halen during my mid-late teens and 20's that I would've loved to have lived that age during the 80's instead of the 90's. I would've found a way to travel to the USA to see them anywhere in the 1978-1986 era if I was able to , but unfortunately my age during those years was 4-12 yo.

VH1 was my #1 on my DTf Top 50 with I&W at #2.
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Post by: Evermind on August 06, 2016, 02:23:55 AM: New Serious Black song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoeXsLwkQdk

Really enjoyed this one. :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on August 06, 2016, 03:21:46 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 05, 2016, 04:57:20 PM
To say that Jon is obsessed with the American Civil War would be an understatement lol.

I also remember finding it humerous that when Iced Earth re-recorded the Something Wicked trilogy with Ripper, some interviewer asked Ripper about the trilogy and Owens said he didn't have a hot clue what he was singing about.

I think that's why I don't like his voice. No connection with the lyrics,
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Post by: Lowdz on August 06, 2016, 03:28:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 05, 2016, 10:46:54 PM
I agree with everything Coz said of course (re VH) - I am of similar age and they really never made radio here - that I can recall anyway - until 1984. I was so obsessed with Van Halen during my mid-late teens and 20's that I would've loved to have lived that age during the 80's instead of the 90's. I would've found a way to travel to the USA to see them anywhere in the 1978-1986 era if I was able to , but unfortunately my age during those years was 4-12 yo.

VH1 was my #1 on my DTf Top 50 with I&W at #2.

VH weren't a big thng in the UK either. Of course I checked them out but they didn't do much for me. As a guitar fan I could appreciate that Eddie was a game changer but although I love some of their songs, the albums are short and full of filler. They have enough great songs for a best of but I don't often play a whole album, except the first and Fair Warning (though even there I skip OFOTD).

I did get to see VH live in 84 and they were good, but the show was bloated with solos and Dave being Dave.
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Post by: wolfking on August 07, 2016, 04:13:13 AM: Quote from: Evermind on August 06, 2016, 02:23:55 AM
New Serious Black song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoeXsLwkQdk

Really enjoyed this one. :metal

Solid. Could fit on the first album quite easily. Looking forward to it.
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Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2016, 06:15:27 AM: More Tatecrap;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubTorjWg0Lg

Actually not the worst thing he's done given the style. Don't know what the fuck the go is with the awful first half of the solo though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 09, 2016, 10:07:51 AM: snooze fest
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Post by: Lowdz on August 09, 2016, 12:00:39 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 09, 2016, 06:15:27 AM
More Tatecrap;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubTorjWg0Lg

Actually not the worst thing he's done given the style. Don't know what the fuck the go is with the awful first half of the solo though.

Didn't get as far as the solo. Not awful, just boring and his voice is weird. They are pretty shit.
Queensryche on the other hand are moving on nicely.
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Post by: TAC on August 10, 2016, 06:31:43 AM: Queensryche is coming to Australia, boys!

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2016%20II/QRAustraliatour.jpg)
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Post by: Prog Snob on August 10, 2016, 06:41:59 AM: Metropolis touring? :D
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Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2016, 03:00:09 PM: Yeah thanks Tim, those dates have been set for a while. Since it's an awful time work wise for me, I'm unsure if I can get there. I saw tickets are $90 too which is a bit steep.
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Post by: TAC on August 10, 2016, 06:10:45 PM: I hope you it works out and you can make it.
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Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2016, 06:40:25 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2016, 06:10:45 PM
I hope you it works out and you can make it.

Yeah me too. I saw them with Tate on the Mindcrime 2 tour and it was impressive. Would like to see what it's like with Todd.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2016, 11:25:31 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 11, 2016, 06:40:25 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2016, 06:10:45 PM
I hope you it works out and you can make it.

Yeah me too. I saw them with Tate on the Mindcrime 2 tour and it was impressive. Would like to see what it's like with Todd.

Do it! Todd is totally worth it.
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Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2016, 02:28:42 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 11, 2016, 11:25:31 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 11, 2016, 06:40:25 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2016, 06:10:45 PM
I hope you it works out and you can make it.

Yeah me too. I saw them with Tate on the Mindcrime 2 tour and it was impressive. Would like to see what it's like with Todd.

Do it! Todd is totally worth it.

Good to see you mate.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 11, 2016, 03:23:10 PM: The Chadster!!!!
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Post by: TAC on August 13, 2016, 02:33:42 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/former-ufo-bassist-pete-way-suffers-heart-attack

:omg:

Pete Way was part of some of the most important music in my musical life.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2016, 02:37:12 AM: Hopefully he makes a recovery.

Was just listening to Strangers in the Night the other day. UFO has to be one of the most underrated bands in the history of rock music.
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Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2016, 03:46:53 AM: Terrible stuff, all the best and hopefully a full recovery.
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Post by: Imaginos on August 14, 2016, 11:14:21 AM: He's a great bass player, I've always loved the intro to Cherry. Plus he was always one of those guys that just looked cool while he played. Hope he's alright and makes a full recovery.
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2016, 11:41:24 AM: Quote from: Imaginos on August 14, 2016, 11:14:21 AM
Plus he was always one of those guys that just looked cool while he played.

(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/players/Pete_Way_2.jpg)

(https://www.daveling.co.uk/ufo/obs3.jpg)

(https://www.metaltalk.net/images8/peteway.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2016, 12:01:50 PM: Did you guys see this?

https://bravewords.com/features/wendy-dio-the-fans-and-everybody-were-moved-to-tears

Dio hologram performance. Pretty damn cool!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 14, 2016, 12:20:43 PM: Saw it about a week ago. Personally I think it's a bit of a tasteless slippery slope, but I guess it would be interesting to see live.
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2016, 12:25:00 PM: I see what you're saying. I would hate to see them market a tour around it.
But as a one off in a setting like that, I think it's fine.

Don't suppose DT would ever play the 12 Step Suite with an MP hologram.

:neverusethis:
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Post by: Lowdz on August 14, 2016, 01:51:54 PM: It was a bit spooky but I thought they would have chosen a better vocal
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Post by: bl5150 on August 14, 2016, 04:44:57 PM: At least in that performance they're not using tapes of Doug Aldrich.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 14, 2016, 11:20:30 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 14, 2016, 01:51:54 PM
It was a bit spooky but I thought they would have chosen a better vocal

I thought that, but it's probably also a matter of what they can get access to. It has to be a good quality multitrack live recording so they can isolate the vocal, plus there's there's the issue of which label they were able to source and license it from.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 15, 2016, 03:21:43 AM: But anytime you can expose a younger audience to true metal through Dio, that's a positive
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Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2016, 05:54:39 AM: Another DGM song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy4-AEmknag

Pretty damn cool.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 15, 2016, 06:05:44 AM: Not bad. That song didn't really grab me, but it's a better blending of the melodic side and the metal side than most Frontiers stuff.
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Post by: TAC on August 15, 2016, 03:11:22 PM: Pretty sure it's a typo, but are we sure Tommy Aldridge isn't actually 634 years old?
https://bravewords.com/news/brave-history-august-15th-2016-tommy-aldridge-gotthard-led-zeppelin-ac-dc-dio-amoral-accept-deadlock
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Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2016, 04:41:31 PM: To be fair, he does actually look that old.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 15, 2016, 11:15:44 PM: I wouldn't doubt that figure for a minute. I'm sure the wind erosion patterns on his face could verify it.

Dude still rocks hard though! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2016, 05:41:34 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 15, 2016, 11:15:44 PM
Dude still rocks hard though! :metal

Rocks harder than kids half his age, even at 634! :metal
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Post by: TAC on August 16, 2016, 06:51:49 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 16, 2016, 05:41:34 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 15, 2016, 11:15:44 PM
Dude still rocks hard though! :metal

Rocks harder than kids half his age, even at 634! :metal

Yeah, and he doesn't look a day over 565! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2016, 05:35:19 AM: So looks like the 'Trinity' 'Three Tremors' project is finally happening........but Tate got the replacements.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-blaze-bayley-and-tim-ripper-owens-to-join-forces-for-trinity-tour/

Wow.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 17, 2016, 06:07:36 AM: :lol

Hopefully for jj the trinity do

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 17, 2016, 06:20:13 AM
A trilogy of shit stranger songs
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Post by: TAC on August 17, 2016, 06:52:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2016, 05:35:19 AM
So looks like the 'Trinity' 'Three Tremors' project is finally happening........but Tate got the replacements.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-blaze-bayley-and-tim-ripper-owens-to-join-forces-for-trinity-tour/

Wow.

More like bow wow.
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Post by: Art on August 17, 2016, 07:57:29 AM: I would see them live for Blaze and Ripper.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 17, 2016, 08:08:23 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 17, 2016, 06:07:36 AM
:lol

Hopefully for jj the trinity do

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 17, 2016, 06:20:13 AM
A trilogy of shit stranger songs

A triple threat singing of "the stranger" would be a musical disaster and my worlds would be colliding!

It's too bad that original three tremors idea never came to fruition around 2000-2001. I have a feeling that Geoff was hesitant to do it because that was the time period that he was really anti metal and kept giving interviews knocking metal. But I never actually heard a reason; I'm sure the interest would have been high. A full album would have been awesome. That one duet on Resurrection, The One you Love to Hate, is spectacular
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Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2016, 02:36:06 PM: Quote from: Art on August 17, 2016, 07:57:29 AM
I would see them live for Blaze and Ripper.

Same.

Quote from: jjrock88 on August 17, 2016, 08:08:23 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 17, 2016, 06:07:36 AM
:lol

Hopefully for jj the trinity do

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 17, 2016, 06:20:13 AM
A trilogy of shit stranger songs

A triple threat singing of "the stranger" would be a musical disaster and my worlds would be colliding!

It's too bad that original three tremors idea never came to fruition around 2000-2001. I have a feeling that Geoff was hesitant to do it because that was the time period that he was really anti metal and kept giving interviews knocking metal. But I never actually heard a reason; I'm sure the interest would have been high. A full album would have been awesome. That one duet on Resurrection, The One you Love to Hate, is spectacular

I think just trying to work around all three schedules was probably a bit too difficult also. It would have been a great project at the time.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 17, 2016, 02:45:42 PM: yeah, it probably came down to a schedule conflict
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Post by: Lowdz on August 17, 2016, 03:30:25 PM: But who would have written the songs? Only Bruce writes songs.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 17, 2016, 05:39:00 PM: They've all been booted from their main bands so I'll call them The DiVested :metal Had to get a vest in there somwhere :lol

And Gunners touring Australia and playing the MCG in my hometown :omg: Hopefully they get the response they are expecting as that ground holds 100,000 people (assuming what they lose from the stands behind the stage they make up for on the "floor"
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Post by: bl5150 on August 17, 2016, 05:44:33 PM: Coming November 4th

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Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2016, 11:36:10 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 17, 2016, 05:44:33 PM
Coming November 4th

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:corn :metal :yarr :hat :omg:

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 18, 2016, 08:53:13 AM: What do you guys think of this?
https://bravewords.com/news/dirkschneider-to-release-live-back-to-the-roots-album-this-october

It's a great setlist. Not sure what it would be like without Wolf's great tone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 18, 2016, 09:00:24 AM: I was just looking at that this morning. The set list does look fantastic but I would be much more interested in a new live album from the new Accept. Maybe it's just the blabbermouth spin, but UDO has come across as quite bitter towards Accept in the numerous interviews they post with him. Is this really going to be the last time he plays Accept tunes? I doubt it lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on August 18, 2016, 09:56:38 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2016, 12:01:50 PM
Did you guys see this?

https://bravewords.com/features/wendy-dio-the-fans-and-everybody-were-moved-to-tears

Dio hologram performance. Pretty damn cool!

I'm sorry, TAC, but I thought that was fucking CREEPY.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on August 18, 2016, 09:58:15 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2016, 05:35:19 AM
So looks like the 'Trinity' 'Three Tremors' project is finally happening........but Tate got the replacements.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-blaze-bayley-and-tim-ripper-owens-to-join-forces-for-trinity-tour/

Wow.

Wow is right. There's a lot of innuendo there. Shouldn't it be Todd La Torre in there? Or does this mean that even Geoff thinks he's not the 'real guy' in Queensryche any more? Haha.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 18, 2016, 11:50:48 AM: Quote from: Stadler on August 18, 2016, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2016, 12:01:50 PM
Did you guys see this?

https://bravewords.com/features/wendy-dio-the-fans-and-everybody-were-moved-to-tears

Dio hologram performance. Pretty damn cool!

I'm sorry, TAC, but I thought that was fucking CREEPY.

Probably not as creepy as seeing Ozzy in person. :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2016, 03:31:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 18, 2016, 08:53:13 AM
What do you guys think of this?
https://bravewords.com/news/dirkschneider-to-release-live-back-to-the-roots-album-this-october

It's a great setlist. Not sure what it would be like without Wolf's great tone.

The thing I thought was weird is that there is no DVD, UDO loves his live DVD's. Seriously though, it should be an interesting listen. His two guitarists at the moment smoke pretty hard, so no doubt they'll do a good job, it's just that their styles is of a more modern shredder as opposed to Wolf's more classic style.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 18, 2016, 04:03:32 PM: Quote from: Stadler on August 18, 2016, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2016, 05:35:19 AM
So looks like the 'Trinity' 'Three Tremors' project is finally happening........but Tate got the replacements.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-blaze-bayley-and-tim-ripper-owens-to-join-forces-for-trinity-tour/

Wow.

Wow is right. There's a lot of innuendo there. Shouldn't it be Todd La Torre in there? Or does this mean that even Geoff thinks he's not the 'real guy' in Queensryche any more? Haha.

You couldn't pay me to go that gig.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Art on August 19, 2016, 05:37:13 AM: New Running Wild song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFmX-CqzKW4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFmX-CqzKW4)

Looks like a return to form! (even though i like the last record, but this is more metal)

:metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2016, 04:22:22 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2016, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: Stadler on August 18, 2016, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2016, 05:35:19 AM
So looks like the 'Trinity' 'Three Tremors' project is finally happening........but Tate got the replacements.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-blaze-bayley-and-tim-ripper-owens-to-join-forces-for-trinity-tour/

Wow.

Wow is right. There's a lot of innuendo there. Shouldn't it be Todd La Torre in there? Or does this mean that even Geoff thinks he's not the 'real guy' in Queensryche any more? Haha.

You couldn't pay me to go that gig.

You don't think it would be a worthy inVESTment?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 19, 2016, 04:39:34 PM: Tony Macalpine is doing some support gigs for Vai's upcoming tour and says: "I have been feeling back to normal and tests indicate that all is well in medical land. Deep and sincere thanks to you all for your wonderful support through this very difficult last 12 months." :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 19, 2016, 04:43:20 PM: That's great news.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2016, 04:43:43 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 19, 2016, 04:39:34 PM
Tony Macalpine is doing some support gigs for Vai's upcoming tour and says: "I have been feeling back to normal and tests indicate that all is well in medical land. Deep and sincere thanks to you all for your wonderful support through this very difficult last 12 months." :)

Yeah I read that and meant to post it but slipped my mind. Such good news for him. Made me very happy! :metal

I hope he manages to schedule some new dates for us here in Oz in the future.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 19, 2016, 06:47:11 PM: Good to hear!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 20, 2016, 03:14:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 19, 2016, 04:22:22 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2016, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: Stadler on August 18, 2016, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2016, 05:35:19 AM
So looks like the 'Trinity' 'Three Tremors' project is finally happening........but Tate got the replacements.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-blaze-bayley-and-tim-ripper-owens-to-join-forces-for-trinity-tour/

Wow.

Wow is right. There's a lot of innuendo there. Shouldn't it be Todd La Torre in there? Or does this mean that even Geoff thinks he's not the 'real guy' in Queensryche any more? Haha.

You couldn't pay me to go that gig.

You don't think it would be a worthy inVESTment?

:lol :lol nice one
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2016, 04:23:24 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 20, 2016, 03:14:08 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 19, 2016, 04:22:22 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2016, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: Stadler on August 18, 2016, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2016, 05:35:19 AM
So looks like the 'Trinity' 'Three Tremors' project is finally happening........but Tate got the replacements.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-blaze-bayley-and-tim-ripper-owens-to-join-forces-for-trinity-tour/

Wow.

Wow is right. There's a lot of innuendo there. Shouldn't it be Todd La Torre in there? Or does this mean that even Geoff thinks he's not the 'real guy' in Queensryche any more? Haha.

You couldn't pay me to go that gig.

You don't think it would be a worthy inVESTment?

:lol :lol nice one

Thanks. That' one of my vest if I do say so myself.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 21, 2016, 05:06:04 AM: I'd give my left vesticle to make this stop.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2016, 12:04:49 PM: lol, anything Geoff Tate related just brings out the vest in you guys.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2016, 02:58:52 PM: You guys are all the vest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 21, 2016, 03:12:45 PM: I can't tate this anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2016, 03:21:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 21, 2016, 03:12:45 PM
I can't tate this anymore.

Vest one yet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 22, 2016, 12:27:51 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 21, 2016, 03:12:45 PM
I can't tate this anymore.

:lol :lol :lol

Made my day
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2016, 06:07:16 AM: Don't know if this one's been posted, but another Michael Sweet song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeFNHAnuz8o

Pretty good, but sounds like Stryper. Thought he might have sung about something else for this album, guess not. Some tasty soloing though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 22, 2016, 03:24:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 22, 2016, 06:07:16 AM
Don't know if this one's been posted, but another Michael Sweet song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeFNHAnuz8o

Pretty good, but sounds like Stryper. Thought he might have sung about something else for this album, guess not. Some tasty soloing though.

Great tune. I liked the first single from this album, but I like this one even more. This sounds like the most Stryper sounding song that Michael Sweet has released recently IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2016, 03:25:44 PM: Should be a good album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 22, 2016, 04:25:04 PM: So I was doing an image search of Mark Boals..

Are trying to tell me that THIS GUY
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SmO8Lk0yruM/hqdefault.jpg)

became THIS GUY
(https://dmme.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/boals1-217x300.jpg)

who turned into THIS GUY?
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WTF? Is this right?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2016, 05:06:05 PM: Yup - in that first shot he is singing with Jeff Scott Soto's voice.....................and in the other two he is wearing someone else's hair :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2016, 05:07:16 PM: Brent's on the money as usual. When I first saw that video, I was confused as fuck.

The real question is Tim, why were you google searching images of Mark Boals? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on August 22, 2016, 10:11:14 PM: it was for "science"
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2016, 10:58:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 22, 2016, 05:06:05 PM
Yup - in that first shot he is singing with Jeff Scott Soto's voice.....................and in the other two he is wearing someone else's hair :lol

In the third one he turned into Norman Reedus.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 23, 2016, 01:12:40 AM: And the second one is Arjen Lucassen.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2016, 05:43:26 AM: :lol

Actually I was checking into a few bands yesterday and noticed that Boals had recorded an album with each. I saw the picture of the middle guy, but I only know Boals from the first guy. So I google imaged him. Honestly, I had no idea what he looks like now. The dude is a master of disguise.

I always thought Trilogy was terrible. It was such a disappointment when it come out. I actually think Boals is kind of vanilla tbh.

I think it was only a year ago or so that I realized the first guy pictured was not Jeff Scott Soto. Every time I saw a recent pic of JSS, he looked like Gonzo from Armored Saint. And Gonzo can never be confused with mid 80's Boals. :lol

I saw Yngwie twice on the Marching Out tour( :metal) and Boals was the singer. I had always assumed it was JSS. Didn't pick up the differences in voices at the time, and honestly never gave it a thought. One of the shows, we were right at the barrier.

Oh, and while I'm thinking of it, JSS' performance on Marching Out is a TAC Top 5 All Time Vocal Performance.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2016, 05:49:40 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 23, 2016, 05:43:26 AM
:lol

Actually I was checking into a few bands yesterday and noticed that Boals had recorded an album with each.

Which ones?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2016, 05:58:33 AM: Royal Hunt and Iron Mask.

I posted in the album thread yesterday. The RH album with Boals was really enjoyable. I may get it at some point.

He sang on an Iron Mask album a couple of years ago, which was decent. But they released an album this year (Shadow Of The Red Baron) with Boals NOT on vocals. Not sure who is, but I was definitely liking that one. I'm sure Brent gave it a 65% :lol but it was easy on the ears.

I have the next two days off, so I may further dive into these two bands. Not a fan of bands generally that keep changing vocalists though.

Royal Hunt has been around a while, but I've never really checked them out, mainly because of the revolving door of vocalists? Any one into them that could make some rec's?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2016, 06:04:30 AM: I don't know Iron Mask.

He sang on 2 RH albums. Paradox 2 and X. I don't have X but do own Paradox 2 and it's pretty damn solid. I've always loved Mark's voice, his range is insane.

I'm only a casual RH fan. Paradox is pretty essential I think and all in all a killer album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2016, 06:26:12 AM: Paradox 2 was the one I was listening to, and I really liked it. I will spin it again today.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2016, 07:46:04 AM: I find the same key heavy vibe across all the Royal Hunt material makes them very "samey". Paradox was the one I had as a kid and Message To God was the one track I really thrashed. Aside from that Fear with John West on vox is the other I have played a bit. It contains all the Royal Hunt songs John West didn't reject :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2016, 09:01:22 AM: Message to God is the only song that I am really familiar with by Royal Hunt. RH is a band I should have tried to get into, but I never really bothered.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2016, 09:10:05 AM: A quick update on a couple of things I've been working on - or trying to........

1) the next podcast is back under construction. I had the songs done a month or two ago but unfortunately I have spent most of the last 6 weeks with borderline pneumonia and have struggled to keep up with regular life let alone anything else. lack of time = pushing harder when I am well = getting sick again and on and on.

I am going to put a big effort into finishing it in the next week or two.

2) I haven't been totally idle in that time though - in fact I have made a big push and finally completed my biggest DTF project yet. While laid up I have finished off the Very Vest ;) of 1988 which was just a mammoth job. I have been working at it on and off for a year or more and in the end must've revisited, checked out, researched, rated around 300-400 albums. Ever since we hit around 1985 each year has got more and more challenging to cover comprehensively and I believe i have done that pretty well.

In the end I rated around 115 albums at 80% or better and I hope to count those down across two podcasts before years end , all being well. And then the first of 2017 will be a "Best of 2016" if I can catch up on what's been released this year. I might ask you guys for your Top 10s for the year first just to make sure I haven't missed anything .

So that's the intention................

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2016, 09:22:49 AM: Well, I'm glad you're feeling better! Seemed for a while, you were only posting in the wuss thread, so I guess that explains it! ;D

Cannot wait for the next podcast and the 1988 list! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2016, 01:57:51 PM: 1988 will rock!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 23, 2016, 03:49:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 23, 2016, 07:46:04 AM
I find the same key heavy vibe across all the Royal Hunt material makes them very "samey". Paradox was the one I had as a kid and Message To God was the one track I really thrashed. Aside from that Fear with John West on vox is the other I have played a bit. It contains all the Royal Hunt songs John West didn't reject :neverusethis:

Fear is the best RH album by far. John West kills it. The rest are very samey as Brent says. I'm not the biggest fan of DC cooper so I don't listen to much RH other than Fear and The Mission. Fear was in my top 50, if you'd just read that you'd save yourself all this research :biggrin: :biggrin:

I thought Trilogy was a good album. First cd I ever bought, with Magnums Vigilante, though I did already have the vinyl.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2016, 05:32:54 AM: That's sounds massive Brent, can't fucking wait. Sucks you've been so sick, you've had a rough run the last couple of years, feel better brother.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 24, 2016, 01:42:35 PM: Not sure, on a whole, that Royal Hunt is going to do it for me. Though I did enjoy Collision Course quite a bit.

Any thoughts on Artension?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 24, 2016, 02:28:38 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 24, 2016, 01:42:35 PM
Not sure, on a whole, that Royal Hunt is going to do it for me. Though I did enjoy Collision Course quite a bit.

Any thoughts on Artension?

Tried a couple of albums but didn't do anything for me. Lacked decent songs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2016, 02:38:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 24, 2016, 01:42:35 PM
Any thoughts on Artension?

I picked up three of their albums under $5 a few months ago. Pretty generic prog/neo metal. Like a poor Malmsteen rip off. They are okay, but nothing to get into IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 26, 2016, 04:14:18 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/anthrax-premier-monster-at-the-end-music-video

New Anthrax video. I freaking LOVE this song. It's a TAC Top 5 Song Of The Year!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2016, 04:59:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 26, 2016, 04:14:18 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/anthrax-premier-monster-at-the-end-music-video

New Anthrax video. I freaking LOVE this song. It's a TAC Top 5 Song Of The Year!

Whole album is brilliant.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 26, 2016, 05:02:53 PM: It really is. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 27, 2016, 12:16:50 AM: Indeed, great song from a great album :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 27, 2016, 12:21:15 AM: Not a very strong song imo, but the style, performances, and production were great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 04:56:18 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on August 27, 2016, 12:16:50 AM
Indeed, great song from a great album :metal

Up there in the best of the year. Very impressed and I didn't expect to be

And the new Vicious Rumors is shit. And I used to love them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 27, 2016, 05:30:32 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 04:56:18 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on August 27, 2016, 12:16:50 AM
Indeed, great song from a great album :metal

And the new Vicious Rumors is shit. And I used to love them.

Damn - checking that one out soon.

As far as Anthrax goes I thought it was good , but that's about it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 27, 2016, 07:02:43 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 27, 2016, 12:21:15 AM
Not a very strong song imo,

I'll make a deal with you. I'll stay out of the wuss thread if you stay out of this one. ;D

And Brent, C'mon man!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 27, 2016, 07:14:12 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 27, 2016, 07:02:43 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 27, 2016, 12:21:15 AM
Not a very strong song imo,

I'll make a deal with you. I'll stay out of the wuss thread if you stay out of this one. ;D

Stay out of a thread I've participated in since the very start because Anthrax released an average modern metal song? :dunno: Doesn't sound like a particularly good deal to me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 27, 2016, 08:31:22 AM: My apologies good sir. You have a right to your opinion, even if it is wrong. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 27, 2016, 12:08:36 PM: I agree with most- fantastic album from Anthrax.

As far as VR go, I wasn't overly impressed with that first single and had no desire to re-listen to it. That's really been the case since the Carl Albert era (which is still some of the best metal ever)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 12:20:05 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 27, 2016, 12:08:36 PM
I agree with most- fantastic album from Anthrax.

As far as VR go, I wasn't overly impressed with that first single and had no desire to re-listen to it. That's really been the case since the Carl Albert era (which is still some of the best metal ever)

I'm with you there. Nothing post Welcome to the Ball has interested me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 27, 2016, 12:26:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 27, 2016, 12:08:36 PM
I agree with most- fantastic album from Anthrax.

As far as VR go, I wasn't overly impressed with that first single and had no desire to re-listen to it. That's really been the case since the Carl Albert era (which is still some of the best metal ever)

I'm with you there. Nothing post Welcome to the Ball has interested me.

You didn't like Word of Mouth? That's an outstanding album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 03:02:49 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 27, 2016, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 27, 2016, 12:08:36 PM
I agree with most- fantastic album from Anthrax.

As far as VR go, I wasn't overly impressed with that first single and had no desire to re-listen to it. That's really been the case since the Carl Albert era (which is still some of the best metal ever)

I'm with you there. Nothing post Welcome to the Ball has interested me.

You didn't like Word of Mouth? That's an outstanding album.

I have it but can't remember anything about it. Disappointed me at the time and haven't been back to it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 27, 2016, 03:59:42 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 03:02:49 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 27, 2016, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 27, 2016, 12:08:36 PM
I agree with most- fantastic album from Anthrax.

As far as VR go, I wasn't overly impressed with that first single and had no desire to re-listen to it. That's really been the case since the Carl Albert era (which is still some of the best metal ever)

I'm with you there. Nothing post Welcome to the Ball has interested me.

You didn't like Word of Mouth? That's an outstanding album.

I have it but can't remember anything about it. Disappointed me at the time and haven't been back to it.

Try it again Paul. I would be interested to hear what you think of it after all that time.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 04:51:17 PM: Just listened to it. It's not bad, starts and ends well - only one song I didn't like (Thinking of You). A bit short, as I remembered. Dull production, as I remembered. Decent though, and a damn sight better than the new one. Thunder and Rain is pretty Queensryche-y.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 28, 2016, 05:49:07 PM: New footage of Axl/DC.

https://bravewords.com/news/ac-dc-kick-off-rock-or-bust-us-tour-in-north-carolina-perform-live-wire-for-the-first-time-since-1982-video

This has totally worked.
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Post by: wolfking on August 29, 2016, 05:45:38 AM: FUCK! The Frontiers machine finally got its hands on Pretty Maids. Fuck I hope this is the only song on the album like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6hWoRgBDQ
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Post by: BlobVanDam on August 29, 2016, 06:25:17 AM: lol you know that won't be the case. That belongs in the goo gobbler thread.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on August 29, 2016, 07:00:45 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 28, 2016, 05:49:07 PM
New footage of Axl/DC.

https://bravewords.com/news/ac-dc-kick-off-rock-or-bust-us-tour-in-north-carolina-perform-live-wire-for-the-first-time-since-1982-video

This has totally worked.

I was sure that this wouldn't work out, mainly because of Axl's ego. Seems I was wrong. But this shows that he is able not to behave like a dick constantly, but only when he's in charge. And ironically that makes him more of a dick in my opinion.
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Post by: TAC on August 29, 2016, 01:34:06 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 29, 2016, 05:45:38 AM
FUCK! The Frontiers machine finally got its hands on Pretty Maids. Fuck I hope this is the only song on the album like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6hWoRgBDQ

:lol

eeeeeewwwwwww!!

Well, it's still better than the new Tyketto! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 29, 2016, 02:34:48 PM: Sorry to say, but that new Pretty Maids was a one minute turn off!

But I agree with Tim with AC/DC-Axel. I was against them continuing without Brian, but this has been a winning formula.
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Post by: wolfking on August 29, 2016, 07:45:15 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 29, 2016, 06:25:17 AM
lol you know that won't be the case. That belongs in the goo gobbler thread.

Hopefully you're right. I thought about that thread, but I still have faith in this band. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 29, 2016, 09:21:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 29, 2016, 01:34:06 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 29, 2016, 05:45:38 AM
FUCK! The Frontiers machine finally got its hands on Pretty Maids. Fuck I hope this is the only song on the album like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6hWoRgBDQ

:lol

eeeeeewwwwwww!!

Well, it's still better than the new Tyketto! :lol

Not even close. ;)
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Post by: bl5150 on August 30, 2016, 01:09:49 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 27, 2016, 04:56:18 AM

And the new Vicious Rumors is shit. And I used to love them.

Yeah.........it's really a Thorpe solo band at this point . Ah well - I can confirm that it is shit , despite some strong reviews around. They are trying to be some super heavy , edgy band and really miss the mark. I'd rate it 68% if forced to score it. One seriously decent song that resembles the old VR.
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Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2016, 06:23:20 AM: New Serious Black clip;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_TiBaQRA0g

Pretty damn good.
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2016, 06:27:46 AM: Yeah, I like their first album a lot. I'm definitely getting this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 30, 2016, 02:36:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 29, 2016, 05:45:38 AM
FUCK! The Frontiers machine finally got its hands on Pretty Maids. Fuck I hope this is the only song on the album like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6hWoRgBDQ

Fucking hell, is that a del Vecchio song? Sounds like it. That's not the pretty minds from the last four albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 30, 2016, 02:40:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 30, 2016, 06:23:20 AM
New Serious Black clip;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_TiBaQRA0g

Pretty damn good.

That's more like it. Love the riff. Please don't sign to Frontiers :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 30, 2016, 04:15:30 PM: Pretty good tune

I'm glad Frontiers hasn't changed Primal Fears sound drastically. I would flip.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2016, 08:30:05 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 30, 2016, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 29, 2016, 05:45:38 AM
FUCK! The Frontiers machine finally got its hands on Pretty Maids. Fuck I hope this is the only song on the album like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6hWoRgBDQ

Fucking hell, is that a del Vecchio song? Sounds like it. That's not the pretty minds from the last four albums.

Indeed. Even the ballads on the last couple of albums were just well written and thought out songs. This doesn't compare to any of those unfortunately. As you said sounds like the crap the goo factory has been putting out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2016, 08:33:36 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 30, 2016, 04:15:30 PM
Pretty good tune

I'm glad Frontiers hasn't changed Primal Fears sound drastically. I would flip.

I honestly do find it quite surprising they are still with Frontiers and have produced the last two amazing albums. Just seems like one of those rare, opposite attracts type of situation. They tried to change their sound a bit when they signed with them on New Religion. I think Magnus getting involved to be honest was a push from Frontiers, but it kind of backfired yet produced something better in the lineup we have now. Probably reading too much into it all but just my point of view.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 31, 2016, 02:51:51 AM: Just read this on Melodicrock.com:

Quote
TATE, OWENS & BAYLEY From Touring Combo TRINITY
...
Fans can expect to hear such songs as "Empire," "I Don't Believe in Love," "Eyes of a Stranger," "Living After Midnight," "Breaking the Law," "You've Got Another Thing Comin'," "Burn in Hell," "Man on the Edge," "The Number of the Beast" and "Run to the Hills" among others.
...
(Bolded by me for emphasis)

Apart from generally wondering who is going to see them, and that they should be more properly named "The Rejects", I'm wondering about the above song choices. At least Tate is singing his "own" songs. But the rest is like DLR singing Van Hagar songs on his solo tour or Slash playing Chinese Democracy tunes with Miles Kennedy or Charlie Dominici singing Pull Me Under.

Do they not have enough songs on their own?

Do they think the fans come purely because of the bands they are formerly of, and if so, why aren't they playing songs from that period when they were in said bands?
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2016, 04:15:44 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on August 31, 2016, 02:51:51 AM
Do they not have enough songs on their own?

Do they think the fans come purely because of the bands they are formerly of, and if so, why aren't they playing songs from that period when they were in said bands?

For any chance of the tour being a slight success, there is no way that they could rely on 66% of the act playing songs only from The X Factor, Virtual XI, Jugulator and Demolition, there just isn't enough there, no matter how much someone like myself loves those albums. Especially since they are former singers of such huge bands, it's no surprise to me at all that they are playing Rob and Bruce songs. In fact, I'd be shocked if they didn't.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 31, 2016, 06:24:19 AM: Well I'm not surprised, they might draw more attention by playing known hit songs, but for me this makes it an overpayed but inferior cover band.

OK, maybe I'm too hard on these guys but I miss the originality, the creativity and the integrity(*) of being a musician.This is just a cash grab. They aren't even trying to make a stand with their own music.

(*) I know the irony of putting the words integrity and Tate in the same sentence.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 31, 2016, 03:32:59 PM: As long as Ripper is singing the Queensryche songs, it'll be fine :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2016, 03:33:44 PM: :rollin
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 31, 2016, 05:54:38 PM: I wouldnt be surprised if these three put a full album together. I'm sure Tim would be the first in line to get it lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 31, 2016, 06:06:45 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 31, 2016, 05:54:38 PM
I wouldnt be surprised if these three put a full album together. I'm sure Tim would be the first in line to get it lol

Tim Owens? That's about it ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 31, 2016, 06:08:34 PM: :lol

I was thinking the same thing. I like Blaze though. I totally respect what he's done post Maiden.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 31, 2016, 06:08:58 PM: .....until now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Mosh on August 31, 2016, 06:16:33 PM: The stuff Blaze did immediately after leaving Maiden was awesome. Probably better than the two Maiden albums he did. I highly recommend the live album As Live As It Gets. Has a good amount of Maiden and Wolfsbane stuff, but also an awesome primer of his first two studio albums. One of my favorites.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2016, 04:09:28 PM: That live album is fantastic.

He had such a strong lineup for those first three solo albums, just quality metal.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 07, 2016, 09:45:39 PM: I just found this absolute steaming turd in my collection. I must've been just buying everything with a "shredder" on it at the time - or maybe I just bought it for the cover :metal ;D

(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/5/3/7/0/53701.jpg)

Hmm - it was on Shrapnel , so I possibly assumed that there would be some quality control. Nope.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 08, 2016, 12:26:06 AM: The cover alone is worth the purchase :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 08, 2016, 12:43:16 AM: :lol I managed to exactly guess the year it came out by the flannel look.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 01:47:15 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 08, 2016, 12:26:06 AM
The cover alone is worth the purchase :metal

But when you add the back cover. (and song titles)...........................bargain :2metal:

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KPoCestrsPc/V71arhrvBuI/AAAAAAAAFBs/ZbJL2v_aEMMLYvZqn7zJyXgIbxLexU_kQCLcB/s640/Back.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 08, 2016, 02:12:38 AM: What is this?

Grunge-shred? Alternative Hair-Metal?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2016, 05:35:06 AM: I need to check that one out for myself.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2016, 05:36:30 AM: Chewy Caramello Blando :metal

So I checked out a couple tracks on Youtube. It's definitely demo quality, as if it was recorded in his mother's basement. But it's pretty groovy. The lead playing is horrible though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 05:47:20 AM: There was some pretty funny stuff around back then when the shred side of things got a bit ridiculous.

Does anyone remember a gent called Guy Mann Dude? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2016, 05:51:57 AM: I absolutely remember Guy Mann Dude!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP91QFbuvAk
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Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 05:57:06 AM: Nice :lol
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Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2016, 05:58:06 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 08, 2016, 05:51:57 AM
I absolutely remember Guy Mann Dude!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP91QFbuvAk

Haha, it's called Sleight of Hand yet he plays like shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2016, 06:03:23 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 07, 2016, 09:45:39 PM
I just found this absolute steaming turd in my collection. I must've been just buying everything with a "shredder" on it at the time - or maybe I just bought it for the cover :metal ;D

(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/5/3/7/0/53701.jpg)

Hmm - it was on Shrapnel , so I possibly assumed that there would be some quality control. Nope.

Sampled 2 tracks, absolute garbage. Hang your head in shame Shrapnel! :lol I would have thought Ray Luzier would have known better.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 06:11:05 AM: Although my copy has Shrapnel on it , the back cover I showed above has Roadrunner. Looks like labels were falling over themselves to sign the excitable , slimy guy in the flannel shirt who can't play :lol
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Post by: TAC on September 08, 2016, 06:12:33 AM: I wasn't aware Prog Snob made an album!

Some answers coming soon in the Ask Prog Snob thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2016, 06:26:41 AM: Racking my brain on Guy Mann Dude and where do I know him from...If I'm not mistaken, didn't he play on Alice Cooper's Trash album? Have to check the liner notes...
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 08, 2016, 06:33:17 AM: Wikipedia says yes. But it also says that Mann Dude isn't his real name, now I'm disappoint :(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 06:35:06 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLhHtaVIO4 :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 08, 2016, 06:41:00 AM: I tried a sample and turned it off 30 seconds in. Kade needs to show this ham n' egger how the guitar works
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2016, 06:43:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 06:35:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLhHtaVIO4 :metal
:lol

Heavy Metal Charlie Daniels! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 09:07:31 PM: I just need to record Ben's little section over the weekend and we'll have a brand new podcast arriving early next week. Four hours of rarities and classics for you , so should keep you going for a while :metal

Sorry it has taken so long but I have tried to make it worth the wait. :angel:
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Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2016, 09:23:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 09:07:31 PM
I just need to record Ben's little section over the weekend and we'll have a brand new podcast arriving early next week. Four hours of rarities and classics for you , so should keep you going for a while :metal

Sorry it has taken so long but I have tried to make it worth the wait. :angel:

(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/cd/cd2f0ef2d2fa2719d86db753e461f905361d7a29162c23748bca188b2259e152.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 09, 2016, 07:35:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 08, 2016, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 09:07:31 PM
I just need to record Ben's little section over the weekend and we'll have a brand new podcast arriving early next week. Four hours of rarities and classics for you , so should keep you going for a while :metal

Sorry it has taken so long but I have tried to make it worth the wait. :angel:

(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/cd/cd2f0ef2d2fa2719d86db753e461f905361d7a29162c23748bca188b2259e152.jpg)

Indeedy
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 09, 2016, 12:38:49 PM: Giddy Up Chad!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2016, 09:25:08 PM: Here you go guys...........

https://yadi.sk/d/RKEPh6_av3fFD

Four hours of headbanging for you - as per usual I have tried to included a nice mix of well known classics and rarities. I will post a list of all the tracks later in the week for your reference.

You may notice that I have changed the host site - it allows some extra Youtube style functionality ( in-browser play , rating, comment etc...) in addition to the download and also seems to be faster than Mega. I'm not really fussed about promoting to anyone outside this thread but I can also see the number of views/downloads , so it'll be interesting to see if any of the DTF Guests that look in on this thread are listening.

Anyway.........hope you enjoy it. And I will gradually begin work on the Best of 1988 podcast/s.
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2016, 11:23:17 PM: Looking forward to downloading this later tonight and start listening. :metal

Hope you get a few extra clicks for your trouble too Brent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 12, 2016, 02:14:13 AM: will have a look tonight. Been stupidly busy with a kitchen refit so not been around much. Will give me something to listen to whilst I finish off. Nice one Brent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 12, 2016, 02:16:39 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 05:47:20 AM
There was some pretty funny stuff around back then when the shred side of things got a bit ridiculous.

Does anyone remember a gent called Guy Mann Dude? :lol

Me too. Shit album but the cover of Paint It Black was ok.
Not heard that Fredianelli album and don't remember seeing it around. Doesn't sound Like I missed much. Is Grunge shred a contradiction in terms?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2016, 05:41:58 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 12, 2016, 02:16:39 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2016, 05:47:20 AM
There was some pretty funny stuff around back then when the shred side of things got a bit ridiculous.

Does anyone remember a gent called Guy Mann Dude? :lol

Me too. Shit album but the cover of Paint It Black was ok.
Not heard that Fredianelli album and don't remember seeing it around. Doesn't sound Like I missed much. Is Grunge shred a contradiction in terms?

I've never heard of it haha.

Downloading the podcast now!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 12, 2016, 07:06:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 12, 2016, 05:41:58 AM

I've never heard of it haha.

but what a name :metal

Speaking of "haven't heard of".........all that stuff you posted in the 90's thread ;D

Sadly the reason I came on to post is re the death of Leonard Haze (Y&T) aged 61. RIP :-\
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2016, 08:10:36 AM: There's a 90s thread?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 12, 2016, 08:33:23 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 12, 2016, 08:10:36 AM
There's a 90s thread?

SOmething about a 90's playlist - I only checked in because I saw "wolfking" on the last post.

I am mostly allergic to the 90's mainstream.
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Post by: Big Hath on September 12, 2016, 09:30:29 AM: you would blow your brains out if you tried to listen to the list of songs I just posted :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2016, 12:21:37 PM: Brent- All radio shows should start off with Dio "We Rock"

:metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on September 12, 2016, 12:31:02 PM: Downloading now!!
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Post by: TAC on September 12, 2016, 02:42:09 PM: Into The Lungs Of Hell/Set The World Afire!!! :metal :metal :metal

In Malice's Wake needs a new vocalist...but DAMN, the music is AMAZING!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2016, 02:58:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 12, 2016, 07:06:58 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 12, 2016, 05:41:58 AM

I've never heard of it haha.

but what a name :metal

Speaking of "haven't heard of".........all that stuff you posted in the 90's thread ;D

Sadly the reason I came on to post is re the death of Leonard Haze (Y&T) aged 61. RIP :-\

Haha, guilty as charged with the 90's stuff. :biggrin:

Yeah saw that about Haze, sad stuff, too young.

The podcast took a while to download for me so I'll start listening tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 12, 2016, 03:02:23 PM: Oh shoot, I didn't see the above post about Leonard Haze. WOW. WTF??

My condolences to Bosk.
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Post by: Imaginos on September 12, 2016, 03:22:44 PM: Wow, that really sucks about Leonard Haze. RIP. He was a really powerful drummer and it's insane how fast he was with just one bass drum pedal.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2016, 05:44:21 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 12, 2016, 02:42:09 PM
Into The Lungs Of Hell/Set The World Afire!!! :metal :metal :metal

In Malice's Wake needs a new vocalist...but DAMN, the music is AMAZING!!!

Fuck no. Listening to a bit of the podcast now and thanks for thinking of me with this track Brent, fucking blistering. So many damn Aussie bands that I just don't know, incredible. Definitely gives me a Testament vibe in the vox which is good. Production on this is solid as too. Finishes too early though.

This podcast is off to a brilliant start.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 13, 2016, 05:52:13 AM: The track I played is definitely one of their more melodic , lighter songs :lol They're a damn heavy band.

Thanks for the early feedback - 10 downloads already so it looks like a few outside of our regular crowd are getting into it. I can start shopping around for advertising now :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2016, 05:56:44 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 13, 2016, 05:52:13 AM
The track I played is definitely one of their more melodic , lighter songs :lol They're a damn heavy band.

Thanks for the early feedback - 10 downloads already so it looks like a few outside of our regular crowd are getting into it. I can start shopping around for advertising now :P

mr.com? Oh wait, too much testosterone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 13, 2016, 05:59:42 AM: I meant getting people to advertise on my show , given the huge audience :lol

Maybe if I start doing some Frontiers reviews on the show..................99%,98%,99%,100%...........Mario and the Frontiers "Mob " might sling me a brown paper bag every now and then.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2016, 06:08:23 AM: :lol Yeah, mr.com! haha

Seriously though, it's good to see a few potential lurkers checking this good shit out too.

Hmmm......the Crystal Eyes was quite fucking excellent. I have heard you throw the name around before and that's the first I've heard from them I think. Really strong power metal right here. Even though you recommended a couple of others, I might have to check the one with Heiman, love that guys voice. The Tyran Pace which funnily enough I've never checked out was really solid too.

Off to bed and will pick up again tomorrow night. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on September 13, 2016, 06:57:38 AM: I am one of the downloaders but I don't know when I'll get around to listening to it - I still have half of podcast #1 and all of podcasts #2 #3 and #4 to listen to first.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 13, 2016, 07:51:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 13, 2016, 05:44:21 AM
thanks for thinking of me with this track Brent, fucking blistering. So many damn Aussie bands that I just don't know, incredible. Definitely gives me a Testament vibe in the vox which is good. Production on this is solid as too. Finishes too early though.

ditto. My first thought as well!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 11:47:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 13, 2016, 06:08:23 AM
:lol Yeah, mr.com! haha

Seriously though, it's good to see a few potential lurkers checking this good shit out too.

Hmmm......the Crystal Eyes was quite fucking excellent. I have heard you throw the name around before and that's the first I've heard from them I think. Really strong power metal right here. Even though you recommended a couple of others, I might have to check the one with Heiman, love that guys voice. The Tyran Pace which funnily enough I've never checked out was really solid too.

Off to bed and will pick up again tomorrow night. :metal

Crystal Eyes are quite good, yep. I've got them from Brent in my first roulette and I really enjoyed the album. I need to revisit it.

I also need to download the podcast, but I have no idea when I'll have time to listen to it. With this Arjen thread, Chad sending me EPs, new cool albums being released right and left, I don't know when I will be able to check it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 13, 2016, 06:24:05 PM: Brent, I'm about a quarter of the way through.

That Tyson's Dog track was awesome. And while I was a bit iffy in the Titan Force at the beginning, it won me over.

But I cannot agree with you on the Vicious Rumors. That was pretty bad.

Damn, I have not heard this Rough Cutt track in 30 years. Great track. Always loved Paul Shortino's voice. Saw them open for Dio in '85.

Oh, and I think there's a reason those bands with the high pitched vocals were obscure! :lol

So far so awesome!! :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 13, 2016, 06:54:21 PM: Can't say I've ever heard of Tyson Dog
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 13, 2016, 08:10:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 13, 2016, 06:24:05 PM

Oh, and I think there's a reason those bands with the high pitched vocals were obscure! :lol

The first one is a demo so I was more looking at potential there (some of his high notes were a bit cringe inducing I admit) , but I thought Sanvoisen would go down alright.

It seems some of the volume equalisation has gone a bit off and a number of tracks are quite distorted at volume. I "proof listen" to the podcast on my office speakers (quite low volume) ans it has sounded fine , so haven't picked up on this. I manually adjust track volumes (which vary hugely due to the time frames, recording tech, source ) so that everything sounds good here but it seems that may not be carrying over properly.

I will experiment around , get the levels down and play around with some different volume normalising methods and see if I can make it a bit better. The more modern tracks (as imported) are clipped to hell which is always a bad start.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 13, 2016, 09:04:05 PM: OK - I think I have found a quick fix ............one simple step I can add in the "post production" to knock off any distortion you guys are hearing. It turns out that despite my individual track adjustments the overall gain on the final "rendered" track is way too high. You should expect very good sound quality with such a large sound file @ 320 , so hopefully this is a solution.

For those of you who want to bump up the sound quality , check the new link in the OP from a couple of hours after this post. Please let me know if you notice the same dramatic improvement that I have created at my end. If so , then I will go ahead and apply the same fix to all the prior podcasts and re-upload/adjust links.

Thanks for your patience - beginner's corner here with this stuff :angel:

Shouldn't be an issue from here on in.

One more thing ..............the metadata is the same as the old file. I have noticed in iTunes that even though I have drag/dropped the new one into a playlist that it continues to just put the old one there (thinking it is the same and already downloaded). So if you are going to do it , either delete the old one first or (as I have now done) change the metadata for the new file in Properties so your player recognises the difference.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 13, 2016, 10:44:54 PM: I've had feedback that it's much better now, so will apply the same fix to the old podasts and re-upload/link gradually over the next week or two.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 13, 2016, 11:13:52 PM: Brent, you're doing great work here. These podcasts are awesome!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 14, 2016, 12:34:03 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 13, 2016, 11:13:52 PM
Brent, you're doing great work here. These podcasts are awesome!

Thanks mate - and apologies again for the (now sorted) sound quality issues. Already started on Best of 1988. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 14, 2016, 05:56:39 AM: About an hour through now. Those demos from those Ryche style bands (can't remember the names at the moment) were really cool. The Vicious Rumors ballad was solid too and still a band I need to check out more from my roulette.

The Titan Force was awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2016, 11:04:52 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 13, 2016, 11:13:52 PM
Brent, you're doing great work here. These podcasts are awesome!

Seconded!

And I have I guess what may be a controversial take. Not criticizing Brent's choice in any way, but just under the vein of music discussion....is that Cemetery Gates does absolutely NOTHING for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 14, 2016, 12:24:49 PM: take it to the controversial music opinions thread!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2016, 12:53:42 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/scorpions-permanently-enlist-former-motorhead-drummer-mikkey-dee
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 01:05:28 PM: To follow up Tim's opinion of Pantera; for me, I actually prefer their 4 hair metal albums in the 80's to anything post Cowboys. Cemetery Gates is a good tune though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2016, 01:18:39 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 01:05:28 PM
To follow up Tim's opinion of Pantera; for me, I actually prefer their 4 hair metal albums in the 80's to anything post Cowboys. Cemetery Gates is a good tune though.

I have never listened to one Pantera album. Ever.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 01:24:39 PM: I would be interested to hear what you think of the album "power metal". Its a totally different band then what Pantera is known for. The three before that are even more different- almost Poison level.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2016, 02:22:57 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 01:24:39 PM
I would be interested to hear what you think of the album "power metal". Its a totally different band then what Pantera is known for. The three before that are even more different- almost Poison level.

Is that the one that has a rainbow colored cover or something like that? I had a friend back then that was into them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 02:36:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 14, 2016, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 01:24:39 PM
I would be interested to hear what you think of the album "power metal". Its a totally different band then what Pantera is known for. The three before that are even more different- almost Poison level.

Is that the one that has a rainbow colored cover or something like that? I had a friend back then that was into them.

No thats a different one I believe. The first 4 Pantera album covers have a budget of 14 dollars combined.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 14, 2016, 03:11:51 PM: As much of a Pantera fan I am, I can honestly say that I've never heard the first 4 albums. Such a weird situaton how the band always just wrote them off like the neve existed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2016, 03:13:51 PM: They are not on Spotify. I checked.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 04:10:26 PM: The band truly ignored that they exist. I don't think they'll ever get officially re-released. Actually I don't think they've ever been officially released on cd, just bootlegs
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 14, 2016, 04:26:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 01:05:28 PM
To follow up Tim's opinion of Pantera; for me, I actually prefer their 4 hair metal albums in the 80's to anything post Cowboys. Cemetery Gates is a good tune though.

Back after a few days with no internet >:( so not downloaded the podcast yet.

I heard the Power Metal album by them and hated it. The later stuff is too shouty for me, and Darrel was way overrated as a player. He's ok, but no more than that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 14, 2016, 04:49:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 04:10:26 PM
The band truly ignored that they exist. I don't think they'll ever get officially re-released. Actually I don't think they've ever been officially released on cd, just bootlegs

Yeah, no official releases at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 04:54:36 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 14, 2016, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 14, 2016, 01:05:28 PM
To follow up Tim's opinion of Pantera; for me, I actually prefer their 4 hair metal albums in the 80's to anything post Cowboys. Cemetery Gates is a good tune though.

Back after a few days with no internet >:( so not downloaded the podcast yet.

I heard the Power Metal album by them and hated it. The later stuff is too shouty for me, and Darrel was way overrated as a player. He's ok, but no more than that.

Even though I say that I prefer them, I still wasn't a huge fan. They were pretty generic actually, but still decent. I've just never been a big fan of the known version of Pantera. So when I heard their 80s hair metal albums, that caught my attention. But it was just a casual listen.

Pantera does do a good job with Cat Scratch Fever
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 14, 2016, 05:07:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 14, 2016, 11:04:52 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on September 13, 2016, 11:13:52 PM
Brent, you're doing great work here. These podcasts are awesome!

Seconded!

And I have I guess what may be a controversial take. Not criticizing Brent's choice in any way, but just under the vein of music discussion....is that Cemetery Gates does absolutely NOTHING for me.

You continue to surprise me with things that you DO like that I wasn't expecting and vice versa. But I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and in one way or another you'll discover something new to like :lol And I will have a better strike rate than a roulette - I am no chance in a TAC roulette ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2016, 06:09:57 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 14, 2016, 05:07:49 PM

You continue to surprise me with things that you DO like that I wasn't expecting and vice versa.

:lol
Yeah, that's why I threw it out there. Just a discussion point. NOT a criticism. These shows are great.

Tyson's Dog :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 14, 2016, 06:19:39 PM: Tyson's dog writes most of Geoff Tate's recent material FYI .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2016, 06:24:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 14, 2016, 06:19:39 PM
Tyson's dog writes most of Geoff Tate's recent material FYI .

Really?? Maybe Tyson's Dog needs to be put to sleep!

That track had that classic Stand Up And Shout riff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 14, 2016, 11:17:30 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 14, 2016, 03:11:51 PM
As much of a Pantera fan I am, I can honestly say that I've never heard the first 4 albums. Such a weird situaton how the band always just wrote them off like the neve existed.

I mostly disregard them even though I'm a fan of that earlier style in general, but Power Metal has some great stuff. I'd say check that one out at least. We'll Meet Again is an awesome song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 14, 2016, 11:24:49 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 14, 2016, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 14, 2016, 03:11:51 PM
As much of a Pantera fan I am, I can honestly say that I've never heard the first 4 albums. Such a weird situaton how the band always just wrote them off like the neve existed.

I mostly disregard them even though I'm a fan of that earlier style in general, but Power Metal has some great stuff. I'd say check that one out at least. We'll Meet Again is an awesome song.

I'll have to do that after I get through Brent's podcast I think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2016, 06:01:06 AM: The Heavy Bones was a great tune.

Cemetary Gates :metal

The Sabbath Stones :metal :metal :metal

I'm with you Brent as you know with Sabbath. My guitar teacher introduced me to my first Sabbath song in Computer God, which blew me away. He taught me Paranoid and from there I really explored every Sabbath era at the same time, depending on which albums I could find in stores. The Tony Martin stuff was the stuff that really got me going though, along with DIo of course. But the Tony Martin stuff is always and still is my personal favourite form of Sabbath.

The Rondinelli album is decent without being spectacular, but a cool listen. Anything with Tony Martin is worth a listen IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2016, 09:55:16 AM: Brent, I'm up to Scatterbrain.

That Riot tune was great. Never heard that album. I'll have to get it.
I would've never guessed in a million years that that was Steve Grimmett. Of course, all I've heard from him is early Grim Reaper.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 15, 2016, 10:12:10 AM: Brent, a correction on one of the songs/bands. You played "Kamikaze" by the band Villain, but talked about "Kamikaze" by Drive. (both songs are great, btw)

So when you said that song was not indicative of what you were playing at the end of the podcast, you really meant it!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Prog Snob on September 15, 2016, 10:42:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 15, 2016, 09:55:16 AM
Brent, I'm up to Scatterbrain.

I used to love that band. The video for Down With The Ship was awesome. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 15, 2016, 11:48:25 AM: I really like Pantera, but I've never heard those first four record. The band themselves did almost pretend that they don't exist. I'm kinda curious how they sound.

Cemetary Gates is a classic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2016, 06:53:09 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 15, 2016, 10:12:10 AM
Brent, a correction on one of the songs/bands. You played "Kamikaze" by the band Villain, but talked about "Kamikaze" by Drive. (both songs are great, btw)

So when you said that song was not indicative of what you were playing at the end of the podcast, you really meant it!

Damn - right you are. Drive does have a song called Kamikaze and in my rush to finish I have drag/dropped in the wrong one. Unfortunately in the software it only highlights the track name (not artist) unless I manually alter everything , which makes the odd error a chance as I do these podcasts in dozens (if not hundreds) of little bits over months. Sorry about that.

Villian's song is cool too luckily and not a massive change from Drive :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2016, 07:03:46 PM: here's the (corrected) song list anyway............

1. Ozzy Osbourne – Bark At The Moon
2. Megadeth – Set The World Afire
3. Anthrax – Antisocial

4. In Malice’s Wake- Eternal Nightfall
5.Crystal Eyes – Battlefield
6. Tyran Pace – Night of the Wolves

7 Damien Black – The Sky Is Falling
8) Damien Black – Dead of Winter
9) Sanvoisen : What I Mean
10) Sanvoisen : Tears For No One

11) Vicious Rumours : When Love Comes Down
12) Tysondog : The Machine
13) Titan Force : Chase Your Dreams

14) Rough Cutt : Dreamin’ Again
15) Phenomena: No Retreat, No Surrender
16) Heavy Bones: Dead End St

17) Pantera: Cemetery Gates
18) Hear’n’Aid: Stars
19) Black Sabbath : The Sabbath Stones

20) Rondinelli : Time
21) Riot : Turn The Tide
22) Sacred Mother Tongue: Evolve/Become

23) Steve Grimmett: Afterglow
24) Human Fortress: Schattentor
25) Eldritch : Before I Die

26) Fair Warning (AUS) : Love To Rock’n’Roll
27) Scatterbrain: Logic
28) Defecto: Excluded

29)Metal Church : It Waits
30) Snakeyes: Black and White
31) Innerwish : Broken

32) Jester’s March: Rain Falls
33) Sunburst : Symbol of Life
34) Mercury Falling: Queen of Pain

35) Gamma ray : Heading For Tomorrow (edit)
36 Heavens Gate : Can’t Stop Rockin’
37) Villain: Kamikaze

38) AC/DC: T.N.T
39) Van Halen : Jump
40) KISS: Love Gun

41) Kiko Loureiro : Enfermo

42) DRIVE : Diablero (Feature Album)
Remember
Dream Ceremony
A Character In Time
Once Again
Barrio Blues
Brujo
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2016, 07:10:21 PM: What?? No Spoiler Warning??

Brent, can you provide the tracklists for the prior podcasts?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2016, 07:18:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 15, 2016, 07:10:21 PM
What?? No Spoiler Warning??

I did say I was going to post it later in the week and it's Friday (here) - and I'm sure you could've switched off after reading the first few tracks if you really wanted to :D

Quote from: TAC on September 15, 2016, 07:10:21 PM

Brent, can you provide the tracklists for the prior podcasts?

I can't just copy/paste a detailed list (or any list) out of the software unfortunately so that would involve going back and manually checking tracks and typing it up for each podcast. I will do it at some point for reference but I don't really have time at present...............and I have made an absolute flying start on the Best of 1988 podcasts and don't want to break my rhythm. ;)

I will get to it eventually. I think we discussed the idea of a tracklist after the last one and that is why I typed one up as I went with this new one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2016, 07:36:26 PM: I didn't see anything I shouldn't have. I'm up to Scatterbrain. Will likely get in another 45-60 minutes on the way to work in the morning. This has been an awesome show so far.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 15, 2016, 08:07:47 PM: Dreamin Again by Rough Cutt is one of my favorite ballads. I sent it to Chad in one of his roulettes (scored poorly).

Brent is giving Dee a run for his money!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2016, 08:16:22 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 15, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
Dreamin Again by Rough Cutt is one of my favorite ballads. I sent it to Chad in one of his roulettes (scored poorly).

What does he know? ;D

It's an awesome song. Might be 30 years since I've heard it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2016, 08:17:14 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 15, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
Dreamin Again by Rough Cutt is one of my favorite ballads. I sent it to Chad in one of his roulettes (scored poorly).

Brent is giving Dee a run for his money!

Yeah - great song.

I just checked out a few of Dee's playlists and I think he could perhaps , maybe give me a run for my money. Where's the rarities man? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2016, 08:22:02 PM: I bet Dee has never played Tyson's Dog!!!

I also bet that Dee has no idea what JJ plays on his way to WrestleMania!!!! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2016, 08:26:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 15, 2016, 08:22:02 PM
I bet Dee has never played Tyson's Dog!!!
:lol

I bet nobody has. And that's how I think about it - I want maybe 20% of songs on there to have pretty much never been heard on radio anywhere. Another percentage of classics, new releases etc.....

To me the magic of radio growing up was discovering new bands. A retro "all classics" show like Dee's is a great idea too but it's probably not something that would hold my attention for an extended period if I wasn't discovering new bands here and there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 15, 2016, 08:33:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 15, 2016, 08:26:28 PM
To me the magic of radio growing up was discovering new bands.

This is how I felt listening to the podcast this morning on my way to work. I literally felt 14 again. So thank you for that.
I listened to a metal show on Saturday nights and it's there that I first heard Queen Of The Reich, Hit The Lights, Stand Up A Shout, Fast As A Shark, etc..
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 15, 2016, 09:19:11 PM: I can post the playlists for all the previous shows tomorrow when I get to work
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2016, 09:32:20 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 15, 2016, 09:19:11 PM
I can post the playlists for all the previous shows tomorrow when I get to work

Good stuff - and I will focus on getting out the "remasters " ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 16, 2016, 05:04:26 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 15, 2016, 09:19:11 PM
I can post the playlists for all the previous shows tomorrow when I get to work
He who HATH understanding...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2016, 06:41:57 AM: I had a look through that list, but I'm still listening through the podcast as there is still a lot I don't know.

That Riot track was really cool. I only have Thundersteel and Fire Down Under from them and they are both solid. This track is no different. Mike DiMeo is awesome.

Always meant to check Sacred Mother Tongue due to Andy James, and I thought that was killer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 16, 2016, 06:57:49 AM: Thought you would like the Sacred Mother Tongue - another wolfking roulette leftover that would've done much better than some of the stuff I ended up sending :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2016, 07:06:13 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 16, 2016, 06:57:49 AM
Thought you would like the Sacred Mother Tongue - another wolfking roulette leftover that would've done much better than some of the stuff I ended up sending :lol

I aactually could say that about a few here to be honest. :lol

Cause, that Steve Grimmet was fucking awesome, loved that one. The Human Fortress was solid too. But I loved the Eldritch. I only have one of their very first albums, but this song right here is fucking money!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 16, 2016, 08:26:25 AM: Podcast #1

Dio - Stand up and Shout
Running Wild - Rolling Wheels
Sammy Hagar - When the Hammer Falls
Judas Priest - A Touch of Evil
Winger - Seventeen
Vanden Plas - Push
Tyketto - Strength in Numbers
Guardian - Time and Time Again
Anthrax - Medusa
Loudness - Red Light Shooter
Nation - Nation
Pretty Maids - Until It Dies
McAuley Schenker Group - Anytime
Metal Church - Fake Healer
Lizzy Borden - Voyeur
Armored Saint - Tainted Past
Europe - Break Free (Jpn bonus)
Enuff Z'nuff - The World is a Gutter
Firehouse - Reach for the Sky
Destinations Calling - Revolution in Mind
Vicious Rumors - When Love Comes Down
Def Leppard - Foolin'
Bon Jovi - Love is War
Kiss - Detroit Rock City
Aerosmith - Dude Looks Like a Lady
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 16, 2016, 08:27:36 AM: Podcast #2

Testament - The Electric Crown
Accept - Dark Side of My Heart
Breaker - Ten Seconds In
Waysted - Heroes Die Young
Helloween - I Want Out
Van Halen - I'm The One
Van Halen - We Die Bold
Y&T - Surrender
Cinderella - Night Songs
Black 'N Blue - 12 O'Clock High
Crimson Glory - Lonely
Spinal Tap - Bitch School
Warlord - Deliver Us From Evil
Ozzy Osbourne - You Can't Kill Rock and Roll
David Coverdale - The Last Note of Freedom
King Kobra - Ready to Strike
The Black Roses - Soldiers of the Night
Magnus Karlsson - When The Sky Falls
Bonfire - Ready For Reaction
Nation - You'll See
Love/Hate - Don't Fuck With Me
Saidian - Pale Moon Rider
Stratovarius - Uncertainty
Queensryche - 46 degrees North
21 Guns - Little Sister
Def Leppard - Women
AC/DC - Caught With Your Pants Down
Kix - Dirty Boys
Paul Gilbert - Fuzz Universe
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 16, 2016, 08:28:54 AM: Podcast #3

Queensryche - Queen of the Reich
Metallica - Disposable Heroes
Rainbow - Stargazer
Black Sabbath - Danger Zone
Alice Cooper - Freedom
Envenomed - Mechanical Enemy
Rose Tattoo - We Can't Be Beaten
Aftershok - Armed and Dangerous
Baton Rouge - Hot Blood Movin'
Pretty Maids - Jump The Gun
Bon Jovi - Raise Your Hands
Lillian Axe - Living in the Grey
Circle II Circle - Untold Dreams
Twisted Tower Dire - The Reflecting Pool
Demons & Wizards - Love's Tragedy Assunder
Yngwie Malmsteen - On The Run Again
Talisman - All Wound Up
Brazen Abbot - Eye of the Storm
Moon'Doc - Foolin'
Unisonic - Night of the Long Knives
Motley Crue - Looks That Kill
Lawless - Is This the End of the World
Dokken - Back For The Attack
Burn - Pray For Rain
Gotthard - Standing in the Light
Takayoshi Ohmura - Never Surrender
Siam - Sleepwaves
Black Fate - Rhyme of a False Orchestra
Lillian Axe - Here is Christmas
Kiss - 100,000 Years
AC/DC - Back in Black
The Brave - Big World
Rush You - Baby Animals
Vinnie Moore - Cinema
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Post by: Big Hath on September 16, 2016, 08:30:35 AM: Podcast #4

Ted Nugent - Wang Dang Sweet Poontang
Dream Theater - Pull Me Under
Symphony X - Without You
Divided Multitude - Scars
Ratt - Shame Shame Shame
Alien - Dreamer
Arion - Shadows
Manowar - Blood of the Kings
Judas Priest - The Sentinel
W.A.S.P. - The Heretic (The Lost Child)
Bangalore Choir - Angel In Black
Twisted Sister - Ride to Live Live to Ride
Ozzy Osbourne - Party With the Animals
Lord - Digital Lies
Kenny McGee - It Ain't Over
Killer Dwarfs - Dirty Weapons
Panther - Desire
Skrapp Mettle - Shoot the Sherbert
Tuff Luck - Stranger of the Night
Lynch Mob - Love In Your Eyes
Jaded Heart - Anymore
Whitesnake - In The Still of the Night
Rata Blanca - Talisman
Tarot - Descendants Of Power
Mud Slick - Licence To Touch
Zed Yago - Pioneer of the Storm
Savatage - Hounds
Iron Maiden - Stranger In A Strange Land
Widowmaker - Easy Action
Extreme - Decadence Dance
Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle
Skid Row - Rattlesnake Shake
Infinite - Masks
Taberah - For King and Country
Kirk - Masquerade
Claudio Cordero - Outatime
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Post by: Big Hath on September 16, 2016, 12:53:39 PM: as expected, podcast #5 was the highest rated podcast by me (excluding the handful of tracks from the Drive album - a couple of the ballads, although competent, dragged it down a bit)

here are the songs I scored 8.5 or higher that I wasn't familiar with

9.0
In Malice's Wake - Eternal Nightfall
Crystal Eyes - Battlefield
Rondinelli - Time
Sacred Mother Tongue - Evolve/Become
Steve Grimmett - Afterglow
Defecto - Excluded
Mercury Falling - Queen of Pain
Gamma Ray - Heading for Tomorrow
Drive - Remember

8.5
Tyran' Pace - Night Of The Wolves
Damien Black - Sky Is Falling
Damien Black - Dead of Winter
Sanvoisen - What I Mean
Vicious Rumors - When Love Comes Down
Titan Force - Chase Your Dreams
Rough Cutt - Dreaming Again
Phenomena - No Retreat, No Surrender
Riot - Turn The Tables
Human Fortress - Schattentor
Snakeyes - Black And White
Jester's March - Rain Falls
Villain - Kamikaze
Kiko Loureiro - Enfermo
Drive - Dream Ceremony
Drive - Brujo

some of those could be moved up in rating with more listens
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Post by: TAC on September 16, 2016, 04:07:44 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 16, 2016, 12:53:39 PM
as expected, podcast #5 was the highest rated podcast by me

Not through the entire thing yet, but I feel like I've really enjoyed this one particularly.
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Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2016, 05:07:47 PM: Nice work there Jon.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 16, 2016, 05:14:43 PM: From the latest podcast, I hadn't heard of 23 out of the 42 bands played
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Post by: TAC on September 17, 2016, 07:10:40 AM: I'm up through the first Drive tune. I thought it was great. But definitely not a fan of Can't Stop Rockin'. The vocalist on that has a great voice though.
Love the nods to Catch The Rainbow in the Heading For Tomorrow mid section.

And everyone should have that Innerwish album by now. It's fantastic.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 17, 2016, 08:11:30 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 17, 2016, 07:10:40 AM
But definitely not a fan of Can't Stop Rockin'. The vocalist on that has a great voice though.

Try a couple of other tracks maybe - Livin In Hysteria , We Got The Time , We Want It All................if you don't like any of them then the band isn't for you.

Currently listening to the Best of 1988 ..........it's taken me a year to not only research but put together the albums for this. Thank God for the internet and digital media because if I was relying entirely on Cds it would've been nigh on impossible and super expensive to get the albums I was missing.

All the good feedback on this podcast has fired me up and I've spent lots of time the last few days and I already have the tracking/mixing done for both of the podcasts (60 songs in each). Now just need to do the fiddly stuff - getting the timing right , intros, fades etc....so it sounds at least 10% professional ;)

What a year 1988 was!
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Post by: TAC on September 17, 2016, 06:35:57 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 16, 2016, 05:14:43 PM
From the latest podcast, I hadn't heard of 23 out of the 42 bands played

I hadn't heard of 17!

That ~~Drive~~ Villian tune is great. Kiko too.

Awesome job Ben!! :metal Oy OY :metal
You too Brent!

Gonna listen to the Drive tracks now.

And yes, a feature album um..feature is a great idea.
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Post by: TAC on September 17, 2016, 06:36:58 PM: Oh, and everyone should be required to post a picture of themselves in 1988 in honor of Brent's 1988 podcast.

Especially JJ! ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 17, 2016, 07:27:52 PM: In 1988, I couldn't have cared less about music. There was nothing that I listened to actually.

My only focus in 1988 was Mike Tysons Punch Out, Blades of Steel, Mario Bros and Tetris.
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Post by: TAC on September 17, 2016, 07:30:36 PM: And......

Pic still expected.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 17, 2016, 07:35:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 17, 2016, 07:30:36 PM
And......

Pic still expected.

haha I dont think I have any pictures from 1988
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Post by: bl5150 on September 17, 2016, 09:58:08 PM: Here's JJ's pic for 1978..........woo!

(https://i.imgur.com/rNiNXfW.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 17, 2016, 11:18:45 PM: It looks like the kid from the 1984 album cover at birth. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2016, 04:03:11 AM: Needs a smoke!
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Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2016, 04:28:42 AM: Didn't know this was happening. Hell yeah! :metal

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/saxon-video-trailer-for-let-me-feel-your-power-live-album/
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2016, 05:53:47 AM: Getting that live Saxon first day. Plus they are back in the studio for their next album.

One of, if not the most consistent metal band.
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Post by: TAC on September 18, 2016, 08:05:51 AM: Wow! That looks pretty solid!
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Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2016, 10:31:58 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 18, 2016, 05:53:47 AM
Getting that live Saxon first day. Plus they are back in the studio for their next album.

One of, if not the most consistent metal band.

I had Battering Ram in the car over the weekend and it's so damn good.

Will post more podcast thoughts tonight too.
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Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2016, 05:48:24 AM: Wasn't a huge fan of the Fair Warning and Scatterbrain, but I appreciate the variety.

Really liked the Defecto, another one to check out, great stuff there.

The Metal Church is a pretty solid album.

Liked the Snake Eyes, helped Brent get the win in my roulette

That Innerwish is indeed a fantastic album.

The Jester's march was really really good, great old school prog here.

The Sunburst and the Mercury Falling are both excellent.

The Villain is solid but I didn't really like the Heaven's Gate.

The feature album was solid but didn't knock me over.

Brent, no offense but what the hell was with that Heading For Tomorrow edit!! I might make one for you and send it to you.
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Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2016, 05:51:21 AM: Ah, this is more like it from Pretty Maids;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GbwIimwtaE

Could have come straight from Motherland, good stuff. Phew!
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Post by: bl5150 on September 19, 2016, 05:54:37 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 19, 2016, 05:48:24 AM
Brent, no offense but what the hell was with that Heading For Tomorrow edit!! I might make one for you and send it to you.

I no doubt could've played around with it and done something that wasn't so sudden but in the end I just took the hacksaw to it ;D It's way too long , which is a shame.

You could no doubt do a version where you cut out a portion of the midsection and a large portion of the outro and make it sound more like it was intended that way. I just couldn't be stuffed :lol
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Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2016, 05:59:41 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 19, 2016, 05:54:37 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 19, 2016, 05:48:24 AM
Brent, no offense but what the hell was with that Heading For Tomorrow edit!! I might make one for you and send it to you.

I no doubt could've played around with it and done something that wasn't so sudden but in the end I just took the hacksaw to it ;D It's way too long , which is a shame.

You could no doubt do a version where you cut out a portion of the midsection and a large portion of the outro and make it sound more like it was intended that way. I just couldn't be stuffed :lol

I use to like doing shit like this with songs years and years ago. I might give it a crack if I can get some time. Don't bother with the live Hedaing For the East version then Brent, it's like 25 minutes long. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on September 19, 2016, 06:04:59 AM: I need to check out Kai's 30 years in metal album (or whatever it's called) but I have a feeling it's going to be a shocker :lol
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Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2016, 06:06:40 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 19, 2016, 06:04:59 AM
I need to check out Kai's 30 years in metal album (or whatever it's called) but I have a feeling it's going to be a shocker :lol

I picked it up on the weekend. Saw it at JB for 18 bucks. Only listened to it once and there's a couple of nice songs, but it's pretty crap. You'll think it's absolute shit I reckon. Gonna give it a few spins though, there is some nice different ideas but not much to get you going really. Shame, I fucking love Kai.
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Post by: TAC on September 19, 2016, 09:49:02 AM: That first track released by Kai blew. I would've definitely needed to hear more, but sounds like I'm gonna pass on it.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 19, 2016, 10:35:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 19, 2016, 05:51:21 AM
Ah, this is more like it from Pretty Maids;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GbwIimwtaE

Could have come straight from Motherland, good stuff. Phew!

Love the soft intro, love the crunchy riff but the chorus to me is too much the "wall of sound".........or wall of mud.

But yeah.....much better than the Frontiers special we had earlier
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Post by: Lowdz on September 19, 2016, 10:55:26 AM: Hmm. Not grabbing me yet. Those keys are a bit overpowering and annoying.
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Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2016, 03:12:04 PM: I thought the chorus was really good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 19, 2016, 07:03:13 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 19, 2016, 05:51:21 AM
Ah, this is more like it from Pretty Maids;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GbwIimwtaE

Could have come straight from Motherland, good stuff. Phew!

way better then that first release
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 20, 2016, 01:07:43 AM: The Def Leppard show was pretty good. Tesla was great
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Post by: TAC on September 20, 2016, 10:00:48 AM: Brent, I love those Damien Black tunes. I would've been all over that in 1994. The band name sounds familiar.

I liked the first Sanvoison tune too. Holy Geoff Tate! Did each of these singers do anything else? Where are they from?
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Post by: TAC on September 20, 2016, 10:13:37 AM: Can't link on my phone, but apparently Cliff Williams has retired.
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Post by: wolfking on September 20, 2016, 02:53:30 PM: New Glenn Hughes;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7P3zt11vQQ

Certainly nothing new at all, but pretty cool. Glenn still sounds fucking amazing, although he looks like he needs a large Big Mac meal or two.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 20, 2016, 07:17:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 20, 2016, 10:00:48 AM
Brent, I love those Damien Black tunes. I would've been all over that in 1994. The band name sounds familiar.

I liked the first Sanvoison tune too. Holy Geoff Tate! Did each of these singers do anything else? Where are they from?

I actually thought you really disliked those tunes Tim ..........

Quote from: TAC on September 13, 2016, 06:24:05 PM

Oh, and I think there's a reason those bands with the high pitched vocals were obscure! :lol

............so I am glad I interpreted that wrong ;D

Sanvoisen had another album and after that I have heard of the singer producing albums for others but nothing much on the singing front.

Damien Black didn't make it past demo stage so not sure about them.

Not a good time to be releasing good stuff in 1994.
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 05:15:12 AM: I knew you'd bring up that first quote!

There's so much to chew on on these podcasts. I wasn't crazy about the second Sanvoisin track, so I think if halo effected the entire block. I went back and listened yesterday.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 05:22:07 AM: All good :lol Somebody seems to be spreading the word as (even allowing for a few double ups across the first and second versions) it has been downloaded 30 times :omg:

We're about to have our lives upturned again soon (we only moved 6 months ago and have been told our landlord is selling >:( ) , so I am busting my ass to get these 1988 podcasts done for you before things go nuts. Should have the first one done by next week...........ish :)
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Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2016, 05:30:52 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 05:22:07 AM
(we only moved 6 months ago and have been told our landlord is selling >:( ) , so I am busting my ass to get these 1988 podcasts done for you before things go nuts. Should have the first one done by next week...........ish :)

That fucking sucks man. Don't stress if things get in the way Brent, we'll be happy if we have to wait. :smiley:
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 05:33:30 AM: No worries...........doing this stuff is fun and keeps my mind off other things.

it is a bit weird being on the tenant side of the equation. I have been a landlord ever since I was 18 and was comfortably retired at 30 yo. Now learning a rough lesson about trusting mates in business. ::)
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 05:43:15 AM: 1988 was only 29 years ago. We've waited that long for a recap, so definitely no issue waiting a bit longer!

Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 05:33:30 AM
comfortably retired at 30 yo.

Did you invent Facebook or something?
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Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2016, 05:44:06 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 05:33:30 AM
No worries...........doing this stuff is fun and keeps my mind off other things.

it is a bit weird being on the tenant side of the equation. I have been a landlord ever since I was 18 and was comfortably retired at 30 yo. Now learning a rough lesson about trusting mates in business. ::)

:omg: :omg: :omg:
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 05:52:43 AM: Not doing me any good now and I actually got my dates wrong.............more like 32yo. ;) No I did not invent Facebook. I spent 6 or 7 years working 20 hr days ( teaching myself and working the share market/property market during the day and graveyard shifts in a late night pharmacy at night). Doing my best to repeat the effort but don't rate my chances at this point.......even the smartest minds in the financial markets are throwing in the towel these days thanks to the endless manipulation of governments etc....and I am starting from a much weaker position.

Anyway...........not my favourite topic at the moment so should've shut my trap :lol

back to the music - and I think I have just discovered a very cool South American metal band that will be featuring in my Best of 2016
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 05:57:27 AM: So let's talk about 1988 instead!!

Here are the concerts I attended in 1988.

1988..1/2..Ace Frehley..The Living Room Providence
1988..2/15..Armored Saint.. The Living Room Providence
1988..4/20..Megadeth, Warlock, Santuary, Vet’s Memorial Auditorium Providence
1988..5/6..AC/DC, LA Guns..Worcester Centrum
1988..6/26..Van Halen, Scorpions, Dokken, Metallica, Kingdom Come..Giants Stadium
1988..7/17..Iron Maiden, Ace Frehley..Worcester Centrum
1988..7/20..Iron Maiden, Ace Frehley..Providence Civic Center
1988..7/30..Def Leppard, Europe..Great Woods Mansfield MA
1988..8/24..Aerosmith, Guns n Roses..Great Woods Mansfield MA
1988..9/6..Flotsam & Jetsam..The Living Room Providence
1988..9/13..Scorpions, Kingdome Come..Worcester Centrum
1988..9/22..Rod Stewart..Worcester Centrum
1988..9/28..Def Leppard, Queensryche..Worcester Centrum
1988..10/1..Hothouse Flowers..The Living Room Providence
1988..10/27..Slayer, Overkill.. Vet’s Memorial Auditorium Providence
1988..11/3..Armored Saint.. The Living Room Providence
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 05:58:56 AM: Awesome Tim - that Van Halen one would be the Monsters of Rock :tup

I hadn't attended a concert in 1988 (14 yo)........missed many of the very best years :-\ Not that most of those bands toured here anyway. ::)
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 06:02:40 AM: Yup, the MOR tour. My college roommate lived in NJ, and we visited each other during the year centered around a show. I saw the MOR tour down there, and he came up for the Maiden show in Providence.

I had tix to two other shows that year. I think when VH came back to tour arenas, I'm pretty sure I sold off my tickets. Can't remember why. Must've needed the money. I also bought Elton John tix, but ended up selling them and making some cash.
I was smack dab in the middle of my college years.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 06:03:25 AM: That MOR tour was a big financial failure if I remember correctly.
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 06:54:52 AM: I posted this pic before. It was actually taken while Metallica was on stage.

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/MOR.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/MOR.jpg.html)

Van Halen on stage:
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/MOR%20VH%201_zpsioesnbgh.jpeg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/MOR%20VH%201_zpsioesnbgh.jpeg.html)

On the way to New Jersey:
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/MOR%20NJ%201_zpstokmdug8.jpeg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/MOR%20NJ%201_zpstokmdug8.jpeg.html)

In the Heavy Metal Parking Lot before the show. I have the Finland shirt on, and NO, I was not fat as that shirt made me look. There was a breeze!
The guy in the middle was my friend, Joey, who came with me. Brent, I'm sure you'll appreciate his t shirt! The other guy is my friend from college, Steve.
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/MOR%20Lot%201_zpsvonovtrp.jpeg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/MOR%20Lot%201_zpsvonovtrp.jpeg.html)

I was 19 during this summer.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 06:57:17 AM: I do appreciate it - in fact I think I have one :lol
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 07:01:22 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 06:57:17 AM
I do appreciate it - in fact I think I have one :lol

That kid was nuts. He was a year younger than me. For the VH 1984 tour, he skipped school and took a bus to Providence to wait in line for tix. He was only 14 at the time. WTF.. But we got into the second show so it was cool!
During Scorps, there was a HUGE paper cup fight between the upper and lower decks of the stadium. He was caught throwing shit around and was ejected! He had to wait while we watched VH.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 21, 2016, 07:07:12 AM: I can only imagine how loud that Slayer and Overkill concert was
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 07:08:25 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 21, 2016, 07:07:12 AM
I can only imagine how loud that Slayer and Overkill concert was
He needed to compensate for Rod Stewart and Hothouse Flowers ;D
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 07:14:19 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 21, 2016, 07:07:12 AM
I can only imagine how loud that Slayer and Overkill concert was

What?

Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 07:08:25 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 21, 2016, 07:07:12 AM
I can only imagine how loud that Slayer and Overkill concert was
He needed to compensate for Rod Stewart and Hothouse Flowers ;D

Haha. So anyway, my GF at the time wanted to go. We got like 6th row center, and I have to say, it was an awesome show.

For the Hothouse Flowers, I lived with a guy that was into them. It wasn't my thing, but like 6 of us went in for the show and it was incredible. The Living Room was a tiny club. For GnR a year earlier, I thought the place was packed, but for the HF, you literally could not move. I was stunned as how many people were there. I had never even heard of them. But I'll tell you, they were an amazing live band.
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 07:16:51 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 21, 2016, 07:07:12 AM
I can only imagine how loud that Slayer and Overkill concert was

South Of Heaven tour!

What I remember about the show was when we were leaving, across the street, there were two dozen police officers side by side in a perfect line, and they each had a German Sheppard. It was a surreal sight. I wish I had my camera with me for that.
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 07:53:47 AM: Really touching moment when Angus brings Cliff to the front of the stage at the end of the song.

https://bravewords.com/news/ac-dc-watch-video-of-bassist-cliff-williams-final-show
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 21, 2016, 12:40:20 PM: So will this be the end of ACDC or just one more replacement?
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 01:04:18 PM: Brent, hoping you found a way to sneak Fields Of The Niphilim's The Nephilim into the 1988 podcasts. That was my sleeper album of 1988.
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 06:32:30 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/former-accept-guitarist-herman-frank-to-release-the-devil-rides-out-solo-album-in-november-details-revealed

Rick Altzi on vocals! Nice!
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 08:33:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 21, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/former-accept-guitarist-herman-frank-to-release-the-devil-rides-out-solo-album-in-november-details-revealed

Rick Altzi on vocals! Nice!

His other album Right In The Guts also features Rick Altzi if you don't already have it.

Quote from: TAC on September 21, 2016, 01:04:18 PM
Brent, hoping you found a way to sneak Fields Of The Niphilim's The Nephilim into the 1988 podcasts. That was my sleeper album of 1988.

They don't show up in any of the resources I use for my lists. I try to be as comprehensive as possible but inevitably some will fall through the cracks. They come up as indie gothic rock so I am not surprised they weren't on my radar :lol Will check it out and see if it makes it. Too late for the Top 60 (first) podcast but I'll squeeze it into the 2nd if I like it.

I have Celebrate in my iTunes (possibly because you recommended them before)..........if that's indicative then they will certainly stand out in a hard rock/metal show :lol
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 08:46:32 PM: I definitely don't have the Frank album.

I wouldn't have recommended Celebrate from The Nephilim. Maybe Moonchild or Endemoniada. Or Love Under Will.
maybe it wouldn't jive with a classic hard rock podcast..

Awesome album though!
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Post by: Big Hath on September 21, 2016, 08:48:38 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 08:33:42 PM
His other album Right In The Guts also features Rick Altzi if you don't already have it.

this is a good album
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Post by: TAC on September 21, 2016, 08:49:27 PM: I will check it out!
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Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2016, 08:51:22 PM: Speaking of 1988, just throwing Death's Leprosy out there as I doubt Brent will give it a mention. :tup
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Post by: Big Hath on September 21, 2016, 08:52:48 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 21, 2016, 08:51:22 PM
Speaking of 1988, just throwing Death's Leprosy out there as I doubt Brent will give it a mention. :tup

HA! I was just looking through my 1988 albums last night and came across that one thinking there was not much chance it would be mentioned.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 09:07:43 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 21, 2016, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 21, 2016, 08:51:22 PM
Speaking of 1988, just throwing Death's Leprosy out there as I doubt Brent will give it a mention. :tup

HA! I was just looking through my 1988 albums last night and came across that one thinking there was not much chance it would be mentioned.

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/A9X10/correctamundo/image.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2016, 09:11:49 PM: It's never too late Brent. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 09:13:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 21, 2016, 09:11:49 PM
It's never too late Brent. ;D

If death and leprosy don't make an impression on you , then it probably is . :D
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Post by: Big Hath on September 21, 2016, 09:18:02 PM: join usssssssssssssssss

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/612%2B3jqbHDL.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2016, 09:38:56 PM: MMMWWAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 09:56:35 PM: That's a very attractive offer Hath but I think I'll manage ;)
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Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2016, 05:32:16 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 09:56:35 PM
That's a very attractive offer Hath but I think I'll manage ;)

haha, so polite.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 23, 2016, 08:32:56 AM: It's 12.30 am here ( I'm just firing up :lol ) but if am having trouble sleeping...................the new Bon Jovi will fix it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LrY3MuOHhc

Sounds like fucking Chris Isaak........and that's insulting Mr Isaak.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on September 23, 2016, 09:53:54 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2016, 06:03:25 AM
That MOR tour was a big financial failure if I remember correctly.
Yes, it was. In fact, I had a ticket to the cancelled Giants Stadium 2nd show. >:(
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Post by: cfmoran13 on September 23, 2016, 09:56:32 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 21, 2016, 05:57:27 AM
1988..1/2..Ace Frehley..The Living Room Providence
How was that Frehley's Comet show? That would've been between the 1st and 2nd albums.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 23, 2016, 09:57:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 23, 2016, 08:32:56 AM
It's 12.30 am here ( I'm just firing up :lol ) but if am having trouble sleeping...................the new Bon Jovi will fix it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LrY3MuOHhc

Sounds like fucking Chris Isaak........and that's insulting Mr Isaak.

What the fuck is this shit? :lol It's not even good/rockin' enough to make the grade for the goo-gobbler thread.
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 23, 2016, 10:00:24 AM: Higher than a rocket on the 4th of July.

Um......
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Post by: Bertielee on September 23, 2016, 10:41:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 23, 2016, 08:32:56 AM
It's 12.30 am here ( I'm just firing up :lol ) but if am having trouble sleeping...................the new Bon Jovi will fix it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LrY3MuOHhc

Sounds like fucking Chris Isaak........and that's insulting Mr Isaak.

Blocked in my country! WTF?!? I wanted a good laugh on a Friday night... :'( :biggrin:

B.Lee
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 23, 2016, 02:52:38 PM: It was blocked for me too. I think I can survive without hearing the new Bon Jovi. Brent's one sentence review is enough for me.
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Post by: TAC on September 23, 2016, 03:21:02 PM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on September 23, 2016, 09:56:32 AM
Quote from: TAC on September 21, 2016, 05:57:27 AM
1988..1/2..Ace Frehley..The Living Room Providence
How was that Frehley's Comet show? That would've been between the 1st and 2nd albums.
It was awesome. I was hoping for Anton Fig on drums, being that it was a tiny club, but it was Oldaaker (sp?).
I loved Ace, and he came around quite a bit in the late 80's/early 90's. Saw him whenever I could.
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Post by: TAC on September 23, 2016, 03:55:10 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 23, 2016, 02:52:38 PM
I think I can survive without hearing the new Bon Jovi. Brent's one sentence review is enough for me.
Yup. I think I'd rather listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA3mStfIdMI
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 23, 2016, 04:17:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 23, 2016, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: cfmoran13 on September 23, 2016, 09:56:32 AM
Quote from: TAC on September 21, 2016, 05:57:27 AM
1988..1/2..Ace Frehley..The Living Room Providence
How was that Frehley's Comet show? That would've been between the 1st and 2nd albums.
It was awesome. I was hoping for Anton Fig on drums, being that it was a tiny club, but it was Oldaaker (sp?).
I loved Ace, and he came around quite a bit in the late 80's/early 90's. Saw him whenever I could.

I'm with you. Sometimes you had killer nights and others for obvious reasons.
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Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2016, 04:51:24 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 23, 2016, 08:32:56 AM
It's 12.30 am here ( I'm just firing up :lol ) but if am having trouble sleeping...................the new Bon Jovi will fix it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LrY3MuOHhc

Sounds like fucking Chris Isaak........and that's insulting Mr Isaak.

Fucking gold!! And then I listened to the intro, even ripping off Isaak. :rollin

Somehow I made 2 minutes of that.
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Post by: Big Hath on September 27, 2016, 10:55:08 PM: just stumbled across this (semi) local band recently called Eternal Champion. They have a couple of releases so they may be known by a few here.

Anyway they just released a new album that is pretty good (if a bit short) to these ears after one listen. Vocals/vocal production takes some getting used to, but the riffage is great. The first two songs I thought were really strong. Take a listen to see what you think.

https://eternalchampion.bandcamp.com/
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Post by: bl5150 on September 27, 2016, 11:13:47 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 27, 2016, 10:55:08 PM
just stumbled across this (semi) local band recently called Eternal Champion. They have a couple of releases so they may be known by a few here.

Anyway they just released a new album that is pretty good (if a bit short) to these ears after one listen. Vocals/vocal production takes some getting used to, but the riffage is great. The first two songs I thought were really strong. Take a listen to see what you think.

https://eternalchampion.bandcamp.com/

I had to check my browsing history (I check out so many damn bands) and I did check them out last week. Looks like I decided not to follow up much more but they do have their own sound (half the battle) with that atmospheric vocal and some decent songs. Might revisit seeing as you've checked out in more detail than I likely did.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 28, 2016, 06:24:50 AM: Speaking of Bon Jovi - looks like a wise decision not to bother with Sambora in Melbourne last night

https://www.noise11.com/news/richie-sambora-fans-tear-him-a-new-arse-hole-after-embarrassing-show-20160928
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 28, 2016, 06:45:12 AM: Sad to see him go down like this.

He was what early Bon Jovi kept interesting and I really like his first two solo records. Some tasty guitar playing on there.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 28, 2016, 10:25:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 28, 2016, 06:24:50 AM
Speaking of Bon Jovi - looks like a wise decision not to bother with Sambora in Melbourne last night

https://www.noise11.com/news/richie-sambora-fans-tear-him-a-new-arse-hole-after-embarrassing-show-20160928

ouch
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Post by: TAC on September 28, 2016, 12:37:13 PM: While listening to Lords Of Black this morning, I was thinking that I hope a new live Rainbow album would make it in time for Christmas. Must've had a premonition!

https://bravewords.com/news/ritchie-blackmore-s-rainbow-to-release-memories-in-rock-live-in-germany-on-multiple-formats-in-november-deluxe-3-lp-editions-in-december
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Post by: TAC on September 28, 2016, 04:44:03 PM: ...and I don't even know what to think of this:

https://bravewords.com/news/joe-lynn-turner-to-release-the-sessions-album-featuring-guest-appearances-from-michael-schenker-phil-collen-and-more-includes-ac-dc-queen-iron-maiden-van-halen-led-zeppelin-covers
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Post by: Podaar on September 28, 2016, 04:48:50 PM: Does this really need a cover?! :lol

Quote
“Jungle Love” (with Steve Morse)
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2016, 05:56:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 28, 2016, 06:24:50 AM
Speaking of Bon Jovi - looks like a wise decision not to bother with Sambora in Melbourne last night

https://www.noise11.com/news/richie-sambora-fans-tear-him-a-new-arse-hole-after-embarrassing-show-20160928

Wait, you were actually thinking about going?
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2016, 05:58:20 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 28, 2016, 04:44:03 PM
...and I don't even know what to think of this:

https://bravewords.com/news/joe-lynn-turner-to-release-the-sessions-album-featuring-guest-appearances-from-michael-schenker-phil-collen-and-more-includes-ac-dc-queen-iron-maiden-van-halen-led-zeppelin-covers

A shame he didn't get Magnus Karlsson on a song to return the favour of putting Joe on his album.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:01:49 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2016, 05:56:29 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 28, 2016, 06:24:50 AM
Speaking of Bon Jovi - looks like a wise decision not to bother with Sambora in Melbourne last night

https://www.noise11.com/news/richie-sambora-fans-tear-him-a-new-arse-hole-after-embarrassing-show-20160928

Wait, you were actually thinking about going?

Not really...........a decision to do nothing is still a decision ;D Maybe if Orianthi went au naturel
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2016, 06:07:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:01:49 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2016, 05:56:29 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 28, 2016, 06:24:50 AM
Speaking of Bon Jovi - looks like a wise decision not to bother with Sambora in Melbourne last night

https://www.noise11.com/news/richie-sambora-fans-tear-him-a-new-arse-hole-after-embarrassing-show-20160928

Wait, you were actually thinking about going?

Not really...........a decision to do nothing is still a decision ;D Maybe if Orianthi went au naturel

haha. I don't think I've ever heard her play. Is she actually any good?
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:09:14 AM: Decent player for a chick ;) - she was lined up for Michael Jackson's final tour so she's no mug. Not a shredder in the league of say Nita Strauss though. In fact Nita is a bit better all round :)
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2016, 06:10:26 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:09:14 AM
Decent player for a chick ;) - she was lined up for Michael Jackson's final tour so she's no mug. Not a shredder in the league of say Nita Strauss though.

:heart :heart :heart
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Post by: TAC on September 29, 2016, 06:11:13 AM: Saw Orianthi in Alice Cooper's band.
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2016, 06:11:36 AM: New Almah available on youtube;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giCJL_DmUCE

4 songs in and it's pretty standard for them. The 4th song was really nice and the 5th is shaping up nicely too. I like what these guys do.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:12:00 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 29, 2016, 06:11:13 AM
Saw Orianthi in Alice Cooper's band.

And now Nita is in.............................Alice Cooper's band :D
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:13:48 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2016, 06:11:36 AM
New Almah available on youtube;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giCJL_DmUCE

4 songs in and it's pretty standard for them. The 4th song was really nice and the 5th is shaping up nicely too. I like what these guys do.

I got to Track 6 of the Almah and bailed. Some solid stuff but something about it just didn't work for me - his vocals seemed a bit off in parts too. And I do like some of their stuff - gave you some good marks for them in my roulette.
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Post by: TAC on September 29, 2016, 06:17:23 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:12:00 AM
Quote from: TAC on September 29, 2016, 06:11:13 AM
Saw Orianthi in Alice Cooper's band.

And now Nita is in.............................Alice Cooper's band :D

Oh, is that right?
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:18:44 AM: Yep - Alice seems to be on a chick guitar thang at the moment. If Nita leaves he might resurrect Jennifer Batten.
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Post by: TAC on September 29, 2016, 06:37:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:18:44 AM
If Nita leaves he might resurrect Jennifer Batten.

I don't know who that is.

So I'm going through some 2016 albums and I spinning this today:

(https://www.grande-rock.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/large/imagesnews/monument-hairofthedog-cover2016.jpg)

Is this some sort of joke? Are they serious? I mean on the surface it's a great album. But, if Number Of The Beast, Piece Of Mind, and Powerslave had a three way, this would be the baby.

Direct ripoffs. Direct.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:41:27 AM: Yep - and I like it better than Book of Souls (and a lot of their other albums) . They're a bit more straight ahead metal than Maiden , with some cool guitar work - don't tend to waffle around as much, which is when Maiden tend to lose me.

It's an interesting topic though - at what point does it go from being awesome (influenced by.........) to totally lame rip off. For me if the songs are there I don't tend to care as long as the songs themselves aren't stealing riffs/lines .

I don't know Maiden like the back of my hand like you do Tim ,so it's likely not as obvious. I know Hath and a couple of the other guys really enjoyed the Monument album .
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Post by: TAC on September 29, 2016, 06:43:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:41:27 AM
Yep - and I like it better than Book of Souls .
:rollin

If I had the time, I could do a lengthy timestamp comparison. It's ridiculous.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:51:04 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 29, 2016, 06:43:33 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 29, 2016, 06:41:27 AM
Yep - and I like it better than Book of Souls .
:rollin

I felt the same about the fapping over Book of Souls. ;)

Speaking of music that everyone around DTF can't seem to get enough of - just listened to the new Haken. Zzzzzzz
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Post by: TAC on September 29, 2016, 06:53:53 AM: TBOS was the first Reunion Era album where I didn't like the latest one as much or more than the previous one. I rate it 4th or 5th among them.
That said, Empire Of The Clouds is a masterpiece. A crowning moment of the Reunion Era.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 29, 2016, 12:31:55 PM: I'm checking out that Monument band right now.

Check out "A Bridge Too Far". Thats the most Aces High song that isn't Aces High.

They would probably make more money just being an Iron Maiden cover band
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Post by: Lowdz on September 29, 2016, 12:49:06 PM: I really like that Monument. Probably because it's so early Maiden.

I like BoS too, more than any of the reunion albums, but I've not given most of them much time, AMOLAD apart.

On a similar subject to the Monument/Maiden thing, played Voodoo Circle's last one yesterday and mostly enjoyed it. I'm with Brent on the ' influence ' thing. As long as it isn't plagiarism I'm ok with it. VC often fall foul of that though.
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Post by: Big Hath on September 29, 2016, 01:07:38 PM: I don't mind Monument aping Maiden, it's quality stuff.
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2016, 02:15:11 PM: I think I need to check out that Monument.
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Post by: TAC on September 30, 2016, 03:34:45 PM: Pretty cool. I like it.

https://bravewords.com/news/steve-grimmett-s-grim-reaper-premier-walking-in-the-shadows-music-video

Listening to the album now on Spotify. Pretty damn solid.
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Post by: Podaar on September 30, 2016, 03:49:58 PM: I had to minimize the video in order to listen to the whole song. Not bad, I suppose but not really my cuppa anymore.
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Post by: TAC on September 30, 2016, 03:54:04 PM: (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/69/b8/7c/69b87cad0e018657ca7ac10a2f15ec15.jpg)

;D
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Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2016, 04:46:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 03:34:45 PM
Pretty cool. I like it.

https://bravewords.com/news/steve-grimmett-s-grim-reaper-premier-walking-in-the-shadows-music-video

Listening to the album now on Spotify. Pretty damn solid.

I don't know if it's me, but I thought that was pretty shit, and the vocals are awful.
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Post by: TAC on September 30, 2016, 04:49:53 PM: Hah!

Well that's the best track. So don't bother.

Just got through it on Spotify. Half of it is decent, the other half is meh.
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Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2016, 04:51:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 04:49:53 PM
Hah!

Well that's the best track. So don't bother.

Just got through it on Spotify. Half of it is decent, the other half is meh.

That's the best track? Bloody hell, yeah I certainly won't bother.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 30, 2016, 05:03:57 PM: Any 2016 albums I may have missed?
Recommendations?
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Post by: Big Hath on September 30, 2016, 05:28:03 PM: did you happen to check out that Eternal Champion I posted a couple days ago?
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Post by: TAC on September 30, 2016, 05:30:28 PM: No, I meant to. Will do so right now.
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Post by: TAC on September 30, 2016, 05:38:01 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on September 30, 2016, 05:28:03 PM
did you happen to check out that Eternal Champion I posted a couple days ago?

3 Songs in. Pretty cool. Jonathan, did you ever check out the Lords Of The Trident album from last year. This reminds me of it.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 30, 2016, 06:00:18 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 04:49:53 PM
Hah!

Well that's the best track. So don't bother.

Just got through it on Spotify. Half of it is decent, the other half is meh.

Grimmett is one of my faves but even I thought it was just okay ......78% from me . Solid melodic metal but pretty one dimensional and he did struggle here and there. Some context though - the guy is 57 and trying to pull it off like he's 27. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's a struggle but at his age I think he's doing a pretty good job.
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Post by: TAC on September 30, 2016, 06:11:42 PM: I think a 78% is actually kind of generous. A few decent tracks. A real classic feel. Anyway, I kind of stumbled upon it, and it's only 50 minutes.
Listening to Hath's Eternal Champion. I'm hearing some Riot in it as well.

@ Hath, just finished. Really enjoyed that. Thank you.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 30, 2016, 06:25:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 06:11:42 PM

Hath's Eternal Champion.

The rest of the original band is now called Champion of Fire .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 30, 2016, 06:30:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 30, 2016, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 06:11:42 PM

Hath's Eternal Champion.

The rest of the original band is now called Champion of Fire .

Eternally.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on September 30, 2016, 10:49:38 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 06:11:42 PM
I think a 78% is actually kind of generous. A few decent tracks. A real classic feel. Anyway, I kind of stumbled upon it, and it's only 50 minutes.
Listening to Hath's Eternal Champion. I'm hearing some Riot in it as well.

@ Hath, just finished. Really enjoyed that. Thank you.

:tup

cool! Hopefully those guys come up to Dallas in the near future.

Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on September 30, 2016, 05:28:03 PM
did you happen to check out that Eternal Champion I posted a couple days ago?

3 Songs in. Pretty cool. Jonathan, did you ever check out the Lords Of The Trident album from last year. This reminds me of it.

no. I vaguely remember that being mentioned here but never did listen. I'll have to seek it out.
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2016, 06:46:23 AM: Frostburn is the name of the album. Best track is Shattered Skies. The lyrics can be a little corny, though. But I enjoyed the album. Not earth shattering, but pretty easy on the ears.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 01, 2016, 09:24:29 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 03:54:04 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/69/b8/7c/69b87cad0e018657ca7ac10a2f15ec15.jpg)

;D

Must be a good eatery on that remote island of a forgotten planet in a lost galaxy...
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2016, 04:14:28 AM: Speaking of Sambora a page back, did anyone see his performance at the NRL Grand Final?! Holy shit!! :rollin No wonder people blasted him on social media, he has no business performing like that, fucking horrid.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 03, 2016, 04:15:35 AM: I don't watch any sportball, but I heard about how awful his performance was. I would have watched just that bit if I'd known though.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 03, 2016, 04:27:23 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 03, 2016, 04:14:28 AM
Speaking of Sambora a page back, did anyone see his performance at the NRL Grand Final?! Holy shit!! :rollin No wonder people blasted him on social media, he has no business performing like that, fucking horrid.

Didn't bother to check it out but yeah.............was lead story on news.com.au (shitty tabloid for News Corp) for a day or two.
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2016, 04:29:18 AM: Here you go boys;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVVLSvt3vT8
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Post by: bl5150 on October 03, 2016, 04:34:39 AM: I've seen a lot worse tbh..................and Jon Bon Jovi would've sounded worse :lol

Compare the pair ;D

https://youtu.be/XZdiaFXW2U8?t=340
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 03, 2016, 04:41:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 03, 2016, 04:29:18 AM
Here you go boys;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVVLSvt3vT8

Thanks! I was actually expecting worse given the buildup. It wasn't great, but it wasn't a complete trainwreck either. Definitely not up to standard for a big stadium performance that's being televised, and definitely not worth what they were charging for the gigs here. But it was an acceptable standard for a pub cover band. :lol

Quote from: bl5150 on October 03, 2016, 04:34:39 AM
I've seen a lot worse tbh..................and Jon Bon Jovi would've sounded worse :lol

Compare the pair ;D

https://youtu.be/XZdiaFXW2U8?t=340

What the fuck is happening. :lol That is pure ear rape.
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2016, 04:58:14 AM: Living on A Prayer I'd classify as a trainwreck. Dead or Alive wasn't as bad.

Oh, the Meat Loaf, that's the immortal one, nothing will ever ouch that, love it.

This is amusing too. Poor old Billy, it wasn't his fault! :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIChaxdSPHk
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 03, 2016, 05:04:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 03, 2016, 04:58:14 AM
Living on A Prayer I'd classify as a trainwreck. Dead or Alive wasn't as bad.

Yeah. Living on a Prayer is a harder song to pull off though. Even Bon Jovi has always phoned it in on that one. I noticed they completely avoided the key change too. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 03, 2016, 11:07:57 AM: Besides a couple of songs I don't mind hearing on the radio, I'm not into Bon Jovi at all. Is Ritchie considered overrated, I've never heard much either way.
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2016, 11:45:02 AM: Pretty sure the Official Hard Rock/Classic Heavy Metal Thread was not started so we could discuss Bon Jovi.

Just sayin'...
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 03, 2016, 11:46:54 AM: I'm pretty sure the Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion thread was started specifically to discuss Bon Jovi.

I listened to Slippery When Wet / New Jersey just today. I usually listen to them back to back because it's awesome.
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2016, 11:49:44 AM: New Jersey is indeed a great album.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 03, 2016, 11:51:45 AM: I prefer Slippery When Wet overall for consistency, but I dig both. Don't really care for anything before or after those two albums though. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 03, 2016, 08:45:08 PM: John Bush fronting Metallica..........nice

https://youtu.be/XWQjXdO0tUw
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Post by: Big Hath on October 03, 2016, 10:50:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 30, 2016, 06:00:18 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 04:49:53 PM
Hah!

Well that's the best track. So don't bother.

Just got through it on Spotify. Half of it is decent, the other half is meh.

Grimmett is one of my faves but even I thought it was just okay ......78% from me . Solid melodic metal but pretty one dimensional and he did struggle here and there. Some context though - the guy is 57 and trying to pull it off like he's 27. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's a struggle but at his age I think he's doing a pretty good job.

speaking of Grimmett, his 2007 album Personal Crisis under the Steve Grimmett Band moniker is pretty great. Been listening to that a bit lately.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 03, 2016, 11:05:08 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on October 03, 2016, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 30, 2016, 06:00:18 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 04:49:53 PM
Hah!

Well that's the best track. So don't bother.

Just got through it on Spotify. Half of it is decent, the other half is meh.

Grimmett is one of my faves but even I thought it was just okay ......78% from me . Solid melodic metal but pretty one dimensional and he did struggle here and there. Some context though - the guy is 57 and trying to pull it off like he's 27. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's a struggle but at his age I think he's doing a pretty good job.

speaking of Grimmett, his 2007 album Personal Crisis under the Steve Grimmett Band moniker is pretty great. Been listening to that a bit lately.

Personal Crisis is a very good album IMO , but that's no news to anyone I suppose given that I featured it in a recent podcast. I like most of the stuff he's done over the years.
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Post by: Big Hath on October 04, 2016, 12:04:09 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 03, 2016, 11:05:08 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on October 03, 2016, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 30, 2016, 06:00:18 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2016, 04:49:53 PM
Hah!

Well that's the best track. So don't bother.

Just got through it on Spotify. Half of it is decent, the other half is meh.

Grimmett is one of my faves but even I thought it was just okay ......78% from me . Solid melodic metal but pretty one dimensional and he did struggle here and there. Some context though - the guy is 57 and trying to pull it off like he's 27. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's a struggle but at his age I think he's doing a pretty good job.

speaking of Grimmett, his 2007 album Personal Crisis under the Steve Grimmett Band moniker is pretty great. Been listening to that a bit lately.

Personal Crisis is a very good album IMO , but that's no news to anyone I suppose given that I featured it in a recent podcast. I like most of the stuff he's done over the years.

:tup exactly why I was listening to it. The rest of the album is full of winners in my book.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 04, 2016, 02:34:16 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 03, 2016, 11:51:45 AM
I prefer Slippery When Wet overall for consistency, but I dig both. Don't really care for anything before or after those two albums though. :lol

Those two are awesome albums. There's some gold on the first two but production killed 7800. After NJ it was a case of diminishing returns. I do love Have A Nice Day though. The only shining light since New Jersey.

And yeah, Jon could never sing Livin On A Prayer, and why write a modulation you can't sing?
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Post by: gazinwales on October 04, 2016, 03:32:19 AM: 7800 has some great songs on it, but apparently JBJ hates it with passion.
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Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2016, 05:42:33 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 03, 2016, 11:46:54 AM
I listened to Slippery When Wet / New Jersey just today. I usually listen to them back to back because it's awesome.

Even though I don't rate Bon Jovi at all, I should actually listen to both of these albums in full.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 04, 2016, 05:53:30 AM: I like most of their stuff up to and including New Jersey. Keep The Faith had a couple of tracks I really liked , but you could tell they were on the way out in terms of being a hard rock band. From there I have marvelled at how people with similar taste to mine rave over albums like These Days , because I just don't get it.

I can think of one song I play every now and then from their modern catalogue and that's Last Man Standing from HAND.
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Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2016, 05:55:30 AM: I think I've heard the whole These Days album, which I didn't rate, except the title track, that's a fucking great underrated Jovi tune.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 04, 2016, 05:55:54 AM: I actually like It's My Life, but that's the only song post-NJ I listen to. I can't say I've ever bothered to listen their more recent output though.
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Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2016, 05:58:06 AM: Isn't he a country artist now anyway?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 04, 2016, 06:00:55 AM: Half their tracks these days :angel: seem to be written according to the It's My Life formula. They really seem to have struck a little songwriting equation that will appeal to the housewives and country crossover crowd . JBJ is a marketing genius , I'll give him that, but I have had pretty much zero interest in them since 1988.

I went and saw them live a couple of years back but that's only because I got the tix for $20.
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Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2016, 06:02:23 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 04, 2016, 06:00:55 AM
Half their tracks these days :angel: seem to be written according to the It's My Life formula. They really seem to have struck a little songwriting equation that will appeal to the housewives and country crossover crowd . JBJ is a marketing genius , I'll give him that, but I have had pretty much zero interest in them since 1988.

I went and saw them live a couple of years back but that's only because I got the tix for $20.

eerrr........that would still be too much for me. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on October 04, 2016, 06:18:44 AM: What about these babies.............10 days to go :metal

(https://s16.postimg.org/viem7tzsl/IMG_0144.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2016, 12:42:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 03, 2016, 08:45:08 PM
John Bush fronting Metallica..........nice

https://youtu.be/XWQjXdO0tUw

:metal :metal :metal

Would Metallica have reached the top with John Bush at the mic? He was offered the gig, but turned it down in the early 80's. John has one of the best voices in metal, but I don't think it would have made Metallica the machine they became.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 04, 2016, 12:58:44 PM: Looking forward to see Queensryche and Symphony X in the same week :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2016, 01:06:53 PM: Brent are you doing a meet and greet with Queensryche?
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2016, 02:04:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 04, 2016, 12:42:34 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 03, 2016, 08:45:08 PM
John Bush fronting Metallica..........nice

https://youtu.be/XWQjXdO0tUw

:metal :metal :metal

Would Metallica have reached the top with John Bush at the mic? He was offered the gig, but turned it down in the early 80's. John has one of the best voices in metal, but I don't think it would have made Metallica the machine they became.

What made Metallica Metallica was Hetfield. As much as I LOVE John Bush, I'm not sure they would've achieved what they did without Hetfield.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2016, 02:19:47 PM: I think John just has one of the ultimate pure heavy metal voices. I just couldn't see it translate into mainstream success with him fronting Metallica. For me personally, I would love to hear what the songs would sound like though.

And John never seemed to be a great fit for Anthrax IMO. Joey fits Anthrax 100X more than John, just like James would with Metallica.

John and Armored Saint are a perfect match!!
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2016, 02:21:27 PM: I agree.
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2016, 02:23:59 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/lords-of-black-rainbow-vocalist-ronnie-romero-teams-up-with-free-fall-primal-fear-guitarist-magnus-karlsson-in-the-ferrymen
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Post by: Lowdz on October 04, 2016, 04:22:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 04, 2016, 02:23:59 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/lords-of-black-rainbow-vocalist-ronnie-romero-teams-up-with-free-fall-primal-fear-guitarist-magnus-karlsson-in-the-ferrymen

Looking forward to this. I guessed it right when Ronnie was teasing it on his Facebook account a few weeks ago.

Just been listening to the Hardline songs on YouTube from the new album. A couple of typical del Vecchio tunes but some good ones too. And Johnnie has a great voice.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 04, 2016, 07:06:11 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 04, 2016, 01:06:53 PM
Brent are you doing a meet and greet with Queensryche?

I believe that's the idea..............I know they generally do very small VIP sessions and so I got into someone's ear very early to make sure I got a couple of spots. The lead times these days are so huge (tickets went on sale over 6 months before the gig) that I can barely remember what's involved. I think it's just a catch up/signing before the gig . I am not sure I can bothered carrying around stuff to be signed either.
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Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2016, 05:40:38 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 04, 2016, 02:23:59 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/lords-of-black-rainbow-vocalist-ronnie-romero-teams-up-with-free-fall-primal-fear-guitarist-magnus-karlsson-in-the-ferrymen

Didn't check the Lords of Black, but this dude seems to have good pipes. Nevertheless, anything Magnus related is a must buy IMO.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2016, 06:39:46 AM: The LOB is an awesome album.

Oh, and Bravewords gave the new Grimmett/Grim Reaper a 6.0! Hah!
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2016, 09:13:39 AM: Listening To Stryper's Fallen today. I totally skipped over it last year. It's not bad.

Is it me or does Love You Like I do remind anyone else of Rock You Like A Hurricane?

Woah! A Sabbath cover! :omg:

Edit: Solid album! :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 05, 2016, 01:08:38 PM: Fallen was a good album, but not as good as No More Hell to Pay. That Sabbath cover is a standout for me on Fallen
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2016, 01:44:25 PM: So I'm listening to The Covering right now. Guess I ignored this one too! What an awesome batch of songs. Lights Out :metal Set Me Free :metal Carry On :metal Over The Mountain :metal Heaven & Hell :metal On Fire :metal

Wish they'd picked a different Priest song.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 05, 2016, 01:52:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 05, 2016, 01:44:25 PM
So I'm listening to The Covering right now. Guess I ignored this one too! What an awesome batch of songs. Lights Out :metal Set Me Free :metal Carry On :metal Over The Mountain :metal Heaven & Hell :metal On Fire :metal

Wish they'd picked a different Priest song.

Awesome album and one of the better cover albums in recent memory. Don't forget "Blackout" and "The Trooper"!! The original song, God, is stellar as well.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2016, 01:53:15 PM: Blackout :metal The Tooper :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2016, 04:45:42 PM: I just found a pretty awesome video of your podcast producer (Ben) headbanging at a "KISS concert" aged 2yo. It was a one-off gig that a local KISS cover band (KISStroyer) did in 2010 for young kids. Unfortunately they never did it again .

Anyway........I think it's pretty cool , even if I am slightly biased. :angel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVn2Dcrw9ag
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Post by: Lowdz on October 05, 2016, 05:04:12 PM: Nice. They sound half decent.
Is that Mrs Brent at the end of the clip?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2016, 05:06:47 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 05, 2016, 05:04:12 PM
Nice. They sound half decent.
Is that Mrs Brent at the end of the clip?

That's my sister who is my concert companion and will be at Queensryche with me in a week or so. Somebody brainwashed her as a young child. :angel:
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 05, 2016, 08:15:22 PM: That kids gonna turn out alright!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 01:28:46 AM: My daughter turns 8 next week, for birthday she wants (among other more girlie things) a cd with "a lot of rock music, especially with loud guitars". :metal :biggrin: :metal
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Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2016, 05:31:07 AM: Everything so far on this page deserves a few of these :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2016, 05:41:06 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2016, 04:45:42 PM
I just found a pretty awesome video of your podcast producer (Ben) headbanging at a "KISS concert" aged 2yo. It was a one-off gig that a local KISS cover band (KISStroyer) did in 2010 for young kids. Unfortunately they never did it again .

Anyway........I think it's pretty cool , even if I am slightly biased. :angel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVn2Dcrw9ag

Awesome!

Quote from: Lowdz on October 05, 2016, 05:04:12 PM
Is that Mrs Brent at the end of the clip?

Is there a Mrs Brent?
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 05:44:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2016, 04:45:42 PM
I just found a pretty awesome video of your podcast producer (Ben) headbanging at a "KISS concert" aged 2yo. It was a one-off gig that a local KISS cover band (KISStroyer) did in 2010 for young kids. Unfortunately they never did it again .

Anyway........I think it's pretty cool , even if I am slightly biased. :angel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVn2Dcrw9ag

Rockin' out with a crispbread, nice :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2016, 05:52:53 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 01:28:46 AM
My daughter turns 8 next week, for birthday she wants (among other more girlie things) a cd with "a lot of rock music, especially with loud guitars". :metal :biggrin: :metal

How is she doing? You had mentioned some surgery.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 06:19:01 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2016, 05:52:53 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 01:28:46 AM
My daughter turns 8 next week, for birthday she wants (among other more girlie things) a cd with "a lot of rock music, especially with loud guitars". :metal :biggrin: :metal

How is she doing? You had mentioned some surgery.

She is doing fine under the given circumstances, meaning it's not good but she's managing.

The surgery was canceled because the donated heart valve that was to be implanted was too small to have the desired effect. Since then we are waiting for another heart valve. Since these come from organ donors all we can do is wait. The doctors say that in the next half year something has to be done to avoid permanent damage of the heart. But after each examination they say that we can wait a little longer. But nonetheless we have to think about alternatives, there are some, but they are only second best solutions with sometimes major drawbacks.

So we wait and hope.
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2016, 06:20:44 AM: That's rough, man. Hoping as well.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 06, 2016, 09:57:25 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 01:28:46 AM
My daughter turns 8 next week, for birthday she wants (among other more girlie things) a cd with "a lot of rock music, especially with loud guitars". :metal :biggrin: :metal

:metal Some of the comments that Ben made about a few of my softer selections in the Best of 1988 were not nice :'(

Hope she is on the mend soon H.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2016, 02:26:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2016, 06:20:44 AM
That's rough, man. Hoping as well.

That is shit. Fingers crossed for you all.
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Post by: Stadler on October 06, 2016, 02:47:09 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 06:19:01 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2016, 05:52:53 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 01:28:46 AM
My daughter turns 8 next week, for birthday she wants (among other more girlie things) a cd with "a lot of rock music, especially with loud guitars". :metal :biggrin: :metal

How is she doing? You had mentioned some surgery.

She is doing fine under the given circumstances, meaning it's not good but she's managing.

The surgery was canceled because the donated heart valve that was to be implanted was too small to have the desired effect. Since then we are waiting for another heart valve. Since these come from organ donors all we can do is wait. The doctors say that in the next half year something has to be done to avoid permanent damage of the heart. But after each examination they say that we can wait a little longer. But nonetheless we have to think about alternatives, there are some, but they are only second best solutions with sometimes major drawbacks.

So we wait and hope.

God bless (if that's your thing) and the luck of the cosmos (if it's not).

Try Rival Sons, "The Great Western Valkyrie". Or some vintage Cheap Trick, say, "Heaven Tonight" (though there's a lyric or two you may get some questions about).
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 06, 2016, 04:20:08 PM: Hope for the best Kwyjibo!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 11:29:02 PM: Thanks all, I firmly believe that everything will go well in the end, but it's nonetheless a hard road.
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Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2016, 05:26:18 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 06:19:01 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2016, 05:52:53 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2016, 01:28:46 AM
My daughter turns 8 next week, for birthday she wants (among other more girlie things) a cd with "a lot of rock music, especially with loud guitars". :metal :biggrin: :metal

How is she doing? You had mentioned some surgery.

She is doing fine under the given circumstances, meaning it's not good but she's managing.

The surgery was canceled because the donated heart valve that was to be implanted was too small to have the desired effect. Since then we are waiting for another heart valve. Since these come from organ donors all we can do is wait. The doctors say that in the next half year something has to be done to avoid permanent damage of the heart. But after each examination they say that we can wait a little longer. But nonetheless we have to think about alternatives, there are some, but they are only second best solutions with sometimes major drawbacks.

So we wait and hope.

That's just shit bro, all the best man. Life really isn't fair sometimes.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 08, 2016, 08:08:21 PM: I got dragged kicking and screaming to a wedding down at St Kilda last night and noticed at the Palais theater that the Scorps gig next week (huge ticket prices) has sold out , so good on 'em. I didn't think they would have the pull around here to do that , but Melbourne often amazes me with the crowds we get for music and sport.

On the final "proof listen" for the massive (5.5 hours) first half of the Best of 1988 podcast too :yarr
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Post by: Lowdz on October 09, 2016, 03:32:56 AM: On the subject of massive ticket price, I was going to get tix for Joe Bonamassa playing just down the road here. Fuck me, £90 each before booking fee.
So now I ain't going.
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2016, 04:49:16 AM: Also with ticket prices, I can't make it to Queensryche next week cause of work but they are asking $90, which I think is quite absurd to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2016, 04:52:54 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2016, 04:49:16 AM
Also with ticket prices, I can't make it to Queensryche next week cause of work but they are asking $90, which I think is quite absurd to be honest.

If it was the Sydney show, I could have gotten them for $60 for you.
$90 isn't that bad for this country though. Since when is any show decently priced here?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2016, 04:55:47 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2016, 04:52:54 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2016, 04:49:16 AM
Also with ticket prices, I can't make it to Queensryche next week cause of work but they are asking $90, which I think is quite absurd to be honest.

If it was the Sydney show, I could have gotten them for $60 for you.
$90 isn't that bad for this country though. Since when is any show decently priced here?

Normally from what I've seen bands of this caliber normally go for around that $60-$70 mark.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2016, 04:57:59 AM: When you add in (Melbourne) Vanishing Point and Teramaze , I reckon $80-$90 isn't too bad when you consider the cost for the smaller bands to come out here. And the Aussie dollar isn't what it was.

I would much rather pay $80 to see Queensryche up close than go to a stadium and pay $150 to see AC/DC or $300 to see Springsteen.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2016, 04:59:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2016, 04:55:47 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2016, 04:52:54 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2016, 04:49:16 AM
Also with ticket prices, I can't make it to Queensryche next week cause of work but they are asking $90, which I think is quite absurd to be honest.

If it was the Sydney show, I could have gotten them for $60 for you.
$90 isn't that bad for this country though. Since when is any show decently priced here?

Normally from what I've seen bands of this caliber normally go for around that $60-$70 mark.

Usually, although tickets are getting more expensive all the time. I've seen worse bands charge more money in smaller venues. I don't know how a band even makes a profit coming all the way here to play for a few hundred people in each state for that kind of money.
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Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2016, 05:01:19 AM: Yeah, you guys are both right I guess. And yeah Brent, that lineup is worth the money. Brisbane got screwed in regards to the support acts compared to Melbourne and Sydney, as usual.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 10, 2016, 03:10:09 AM: $90 is cheap to see any band from overseas.
They don't make any money at all, and the promoter don't do much better.
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Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2016, 05:21:35 AM: I guess it's just the tightass coming out in me. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on October 10, 2016, 05:33:21 AM: Just done a conversion and the Joe Bonamassa tickets at £90 is about 150 Aussie monopoly money :biggrin:
I'd have taken the Queensryche price I think.
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Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2016, 05:35:14 AM: That's what I paid for Maiden. I guess the 90 bucks isn't too bad now that I really think about it.
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Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2016, 05:36:35 AM: Having a listen to the new Serious Black, meh. It's too easy to write these sorts of albums off these days. Solid stuff, but nothing memorable or mindblowing. Not worthy of a purchase at this stage. Very short too. I miss Grapow's leads.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 10, 2016, 05:37:25 AM: I recall I paid 175 to see Maiden, towards the front of the first elevation. That's about what I paid for Metallica too, and that was further back. Any more than that, and I just won't go.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 10, 2016, 05:43:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 10, 2016, 05:36:35 AM
Having a listen to the new Serious Black... Solid stuff, but nothing memorable or mindblowing.

Agreed.

Just having a listen to the new Andy Timmons and it's the same. Albums like The Extremist/Crystal Planet have a similar (but heavier) vibe but are miles better. Pretty bland actually.
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Post by: Bolsters on October 10, 2016, 05:51:04 AM: I'm pretty sure I listened to the new Serious Black last week or something, but I can't remember a single thing about it. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 10, 2016, 07:36:53 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 10, 2016, 05:43:58 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 10, 2016, 05:36:35 AM
Having a listen to the new Serious Black... Solid stuff, but nothing memorable or mindblowing.

Agreed.

Just having a listen to the new Andy Timmons and it's the same. Albums like The Extremist/Crystal Planet have a similar (but heavier) vibe but are miles better. Pretty bland actually.

I listyened to it whilst driving this weekend - I liked it. I enjoyed how it was quite riffy rather than lead led. It was a bit of a contrast to the shred that I usually go for.

Got the Serious Black on in the car now. Half way through and its good. Last one was better I think, on first listen.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 10, 2016, 08:24:15 AM: Fair enough Paul (re Timmons)..............I don't mind that style but I thought the rhythm stuff was very samey across the album and there was almost zero interesting lead work , which made it a struggle to hold my interest.

Opinions eh? :)

Although there is plenty of Timmons' solo stuff that I really like , I have always felt that he is a better band player (w/vocal) than a solo artist. I don't think he has quite the instrumental writing chops of the greats in that field. And then you have guys like Moore and Satriani who I feel are much better as instrumentalists than band guys.
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Post by: TAC on October 10, 2016, 01:39:52 PM: I forgot about the Serious Black. I'll have to give it a listen. I liked the first one.

Quote from: bl5150 on October 08, 2016, 08:08:21 PM
On the final "proof listen" for the massive (5.5 hours) first half of the Best of 1988 podcast too :yarr

:metal

Can't wait, Brent!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 11, 2016, 12:45:07 AM: Cool :)

I was there but thought I would check out the mp3 myself (as against listening to the finished product inside the software) and once again..........the final mixed mp3 sounded totally different (way too "hot") compared to the preview in the software that I'm supposed to be able to use to judge these things. ::) >:(

I think I have finally discovered the quirk in the software that is causing this issue and so am just quickly "remastering" each track to test my theory . This has taken so long to complete that I am going to make damn sure it sounds spot on. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2016, 04:45:25 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 11, 2016, 12:45:07 AM
Cool :)

I was there but thought I would check out the mp3 myself (as against listening to the finished product inside the software) and once again..........the final mixed mp3 sounded totally different (way too "hot") compared to the preview in the software that I'm supposed to be able to use to judge these things. ::) >:(

I think I have finally discovered the quirk in the software that is causing this issue and so am just quickly "remastering" each track to test my theory . This has taken so long to complete that I am going to make damn sure it sounds spot on. :metal

We all appreciate the effort :)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 11, 2016, 05:25:39 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 11, 2016, 04:45:25 AM

We all appreciate the effort :)

:)

Alright...........the sound is sorted - should sound way better than any of the other podcasts. I've just realised that I have blown my mobile broadband data (forgot I had it connected) and am in for a huge bill , so have had to switch back to my regular shitty hard connection. So I will upload overnight while asleep and then link it up in the morning.

I've probably already said this but I have basically split it into two huge podcasts - the first will be the Top 60 (counted down) and the second will be the next best 60 just in random order as a regular show. It's hard to believe that there were 120 worthy albums , but that late 80's period was nuts for rock and metal and we're right in the sweet spot. The Best of 1980 list took me a week..........this took me quite a bit longer :lol

As I am at pains to point out in the podcast , my main focus was to get all of the best albums from 1988 (to the best of my knowledge ) together for you guys. I spent far more time on the research and piecing the podcast together than I did on fractional ratings. The ratings/rankings are secondary and really mean very little when you consider that most ratings were "one listen jobs" , all albums in the first podcast are rated high 80's or better and in some cases a one point increase could rocket an album up 20 spots in the countdown. It was that close....so the rankings are a very general trend at best. I'm sure someone will point out something that I've missed but I think most of the expected albums and plenty you will not know will appear.

As far as the general work on the show goes..............I hope you will notice a difference. It will never sound exactly like a live radio show and I'm not a DJ's asshole ( not enough of a loudmouth for starters) but I have put a lot more time into some fade ins/outs and a few other little things to make it sound more slick compared to the stop/start of the tracks on prior podcasts. I even used a little studio trickery here and there. There is also the odd mistake here and there but I decided I'd rather leave it alone rather than correct every tiny error......sounds more "real" that way.

Anyway.......it'll be up in the morning (my time) and I hope you all get a kick out of reliving 1988.

I will now apply my little fixes to the second 1988 podcast before I forget what I just sorted out. ::)
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Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2016, 05:43:42 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 11, 2016, 04:45:25 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 11, 2016, 12:45:07 AM
Cool :)

I was there but thought I would check out the mp3 myself (as against listening to the finished product inside the software) and once again..........the final mixed mp3 sounded totally different (way too "hot") compared to the preview in the software that I'm supposed to be able to use to judge these things. ::) >:(

I think I have finally discovered the quirk in the software that is causing this issue and so am just quickly "remastering" each track to test my theory . This has taken so long to complete that I am going to make damn sure it sounds spot on. :metal

We all appreciate the effort :)

Absolutely, can't wait for it.

Didn't know Timmons had a new one either, but I pretty much agree with Brent in regards to Timmons as a solo artist. I'll have to give it a listen though.

The Serious Black might indeed come good after a few listens but it's hard to put time into these sorts of samey releases these days. Feels like there little reward with so much stuff floating around.

I've just started having a listen to the Charred Walls of the Damned too.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 11, 2016, 05:45:22 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 11, 2016, 05:43:42 AM
Feels like there little reward with so much stuff floating around.

Yep - I do stumble onto the odd gem but it's serious hard work to find one. It's like 1988 but without the quality :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2016, 06:38:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 11, 2016, 05:45:22 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 11, 2016, 05:43:42 AM
Feels like there little reward with so much stuff floating around.

Yep - I do stumble onto the odd gem but it's serious hard work to find one. It's like 1988 but without the quality :lol

Yeah, there's not much jumping out as a future classic these days. There's too much stuff for one. In the old days you had to live with an album for a while, you had no choice. Now you don't even have to buy it in advance, so many albums just get one stream to make an impression.

Looking forward to the best of 88. Will be interested to see if there's anything I don't have. I'm sure there'll be the odd new one on me in there.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 11, 2016, 06:44:16 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 11, 2016, 06:38:38 AM

Looking forward to the best of 88. Will be interested to see if there's anything I don't have. I'm sure there'll be the odd new one on me in there.

I reckon there might be a few in there. Listening to the second lot of 60 now and in many ways it could well be the better set of songs (many of my faves are on patchy albums).
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 11, 2016, 07:32:15 AM: Wolf, let us know what you think of the Charred Walls album. I thought the first two were ok, but the songs just seemed to blend together and nothing really stood out
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2016, 03:45:10 PM: Cannot wait for this podcast. I believe it's morning in Australia. :)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 11, 2016, 06:43:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 11, 2016, 03:45:10 PM
Cannot wait for this podcast. I believe it's morning in Australia. :)

Yes it is.

https://yadi.sk/d/V_2qYHdxwfuUe

Enjoy.........The Best of 1988 Pt 1.

if there's any shock omissions for you , then chances are they're in the next one.
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2016, 07:01:54 PM: Awesome! :metal :metal

I have the day off tomorrow!!

Can't wait to listen.

Wait a minute.. I'm not going to be happy if it's 5.5 hours from 1998..

:neverusethis:
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Post by: bl5150 on October 11, 2016, 07:05:20 PM: haha.............I redid the damn thing so many times yesterday that I didn't notice the fat finger moment. Fixed.

The Best of 1998 podcast might be 5.5 minutes ;D
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2016, 07:16:01 PM: :lol
So true!
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Post by: Big Hath on October 11, 2016, 11:26:43 PM: hey, 1998 had some good albums

The Chemical Wedding
Book of Secrets
Twilight in Olympus
Tyranny
The Wake of Magellan
Permanent Mark (John West)
Something Wicked This Way Comes
DEATH - THE SOUND OF PERSEVERANCE (join usssss)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 12, 2016, 12:29:15 AM: Here is the sum total of every album in my collection from 1998 that I can even remotely listen to. :lol

The Snakes - Once Bitten
DLR - DLR Band
KISS - Psycho Circus

1988 on the other hand, bring it on! :metal I'll download the podcast tonight. The file's too big for me to download during the day.
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Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2016, 05:07:56 AM: Woah, 727MB. Might have to wait until the weekend until I can download and start listening. So looking forward to this though.
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Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2016, 05:10:20 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on October 11, 2016, 11:26:43 PM
hey, 1998 had some good albums

The Chemical Wedding
Book of Secrets
Twilight in Olympus
Tyranny
The Wake of Magellan
Permanent Mark (John West)
Something Wicked This Way Comes
DEATH - THE SOUND OF PERSEVERANCE (join usssss)

Also;

Nightfall in Middle Earth
Legacy of Kings
Vain Glory Opera
Better Than Raw
Primal Fear
Invictus
Destiny
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 05:41:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 12, 2016, 05:07:56 AM
Woah, 727MB. Might have to wait until the weekend until I can download and start listening. So looking forward to this though.

If anyone requires a smaller file , just ask and I will do one in lower bitrate than 320kbps. It should sound okay in 192 as the 320 sounds :tup
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 12, 2016, 05:46:18 AM: Us poor Aussies and our shitty internet. :lol

I'm fine with the 320kb file, it will just have to wait until after 2am.
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 05:52:13 AM: What is this, a talk show?? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 06:37:17 AM: Speaking of talk.........just realised listening to it now that I announced #6 as #5 and #5 as #4 and then got back on track with 4,3,2,1 :lol That wasn't one of the little errors that I left in intentionally ::)

I must've listened to the whole thing half a dozen times and it took me that long to notice :lol

I will post the countdown in the thread late next week anyway.

The link to the podcast is in the OP as usual btw.
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 06:42:57 AM: I'm only up to Steeler right now.

Oddly, I never got into Testament back then. I never really considered myself a true thrash fan. I just never thought they were in Metallica's league and I wasn't a fan of the vocals. I like their early stuff much more now. I still played them on my radio show.

The only other thrash band that I really took to was F&J. No Place better be in the Part 1 of 1988!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 06:44:35 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2016, 06:42:57 AM
I'm only up to Steeler right now.

Oddly, I never got into Testament back then. I never really considered myself a true thrash fan. I just never thought they were in Metallica's league and I wasn't a fan of the vocals. I like their early stuff much more now. I still played them on my radio show.

The only other thrash band that I really took to was F&J. No Place better be in the Part 1 of 1988!

here we go :lol No Place..........in my countdown :lol

And by the way..............any mistakes are Ben's fault. Wait til you hear the bagging he gave a couple of my Top Ten albums..........put me off my game ;D
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 06:57:55 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 06:44:35 AM
No Place..........in my countdown :lol

:lol

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/43195406.jpg)

Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 06:44:35 AM
Wait til you hear the bagging he gave a couple of my Top Ten albums

You probably deserved it!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 07:00:44 AM: You will agree with him Tim :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 07:16:59 AM: Took your advice on checking out the VS video.

:rollin

WTF??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 07:17:50 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2016, 07:16:59 AM
Took your advice on checking out the VS video.

:rollin

WTF??

Every time I watch that I discover something new and awesome :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 07:19:27 AM: Well, something new, maybe... :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 07:51:58 AM: I liked Kix, but Don't Close Your Eyes had to be one of the most annoying songs ever. It puts the "blow" in Blow My Fuse.
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 08:06:05 AM: HELLOWEEN!!!!!!!!!

I'm glad you played March Of Time. Thought you'd take the easy way out with I Want Out. Talk about overrated.

I like Rise And Fall, musically. Lyrically it's dumb. But it's a very catchy tune. Same with Dr. Stein. I can see someone letting those tracks drag it down a bit. Almost B side material. But everything else is just so damned great.

Well, I glad Helloween at least beat Poison. ;D

Just don't tell me Iron Maiden will also be in the 40's.

Edit: WHAT??? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 08:11:38 AM: As I have been at pains to say , an album ranked 45 may have the same rating score as one ranked in the 20's..........so in many ways the order is largely arbitrary across large sections of the podcast.

I knew you'd get into me ,so.............

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/43195406.jpg)

:lol
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 09:12:55 AM: ;D

Glad you have AC/DC here. Blow Up Your Video is a fantastic album.

Was Down On The Borderline an Australian or Asian track only. I've never heard it, as it was not on the US version. Fits right in though. Nice track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 09:16:57 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2016, 09:12:55 AM

Was Down On The Borderline an Australian or Asian track only. I've never heard it, as it was not on the US version. Fits right in though. Nice track.

it was recorded in the Blow Up Your Video sessions and later released as a B-side on Moneytalks (1990) Aussie single and bonus track. Also in the Backtracks box set.

I have always viewed it as part of the album ......thought I would throw it in there for something different rather than Heatseeker.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 09:21:09 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 09:16:57 AM
thought I would throw it in there for something different rather than Heatseeker.

Thank you for that. Still many great tracks to pick from. I'm glad you played the one you did.

Liked the Angel Dust tune.
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Post by: Podaar on October 12, 2016, 09:45:50 AM: I'm downloading the podcast now so I can give it a listen. Looking forward to it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 12, 2016, 11:02:00 AM: Just started the podcast. I dug the King Kobra track. I only have Ready to Strike out of the '80s stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on October 12, 2016, 11:31:22 AM: Ha, I remember that Smashed Gladys song! I don't think I've even heard it since '88 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 11:34:52 AM: Quote from: Podaar on October 12, 2016, 11:31:22 AM
Ha, I remember that Smashed Gladys song! I don't think I've even heard it since '88 :lol

Same here. So awful! :lol
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Post by: Podaar on October 12, 2016, 02:02:56 PM: I forgot how much I liked "Blood Red Skies" off Ram It Down. Nice pick...although it's probably been the same amount of time since I heard it last.

I'm trying to listen while working and there was a song or a group that you introduced as "Angel Dust" that I liked but I'm not finding it when I Google it. Do you have a list of songs you played on the podcast?
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 02:07:02 PM: Quote from: Podaar on October 12, 2016, 02:02:56 PM
Do you have a list of songs you played on the podcast?

Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 06:37:17 AM
I will post the countdown in the thread late next week anyway.

That Angel Dust tune was excellent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on October 12, 2016, 02:12:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2016, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: Podaar on October 12, 2016, 02:02:56 PM
Do you have a list of songs you played on the podcast?

Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 06:37:17 AM
I will post the countdown in the thread late next week anyway.

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Post by: jjrock88 on October 12, 2016, 02:13:06 PM: Blood Red Skies is one of the best Priest songs ever! Just might be their most underrated tune
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Post by: Podaar on October 12, 2016, 02:21:05 PM: That Jeff Healey song is really up my alley. I may need to investigate him more.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 02:46:55 PM: Was definitely not expecting Jeff Healey here, though he was excellent.

Riot/Krokus back the back was :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 02:58:48 PM: :rollin
The fall asleep comment was perfectly timed, because I just opened up the page to say that if that Barnes song made the Top 60, then the Bottom 60 must really suck! :lol

My word, that was horrific!
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Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2016, 03:30:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2016, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: Podaar on October 12, 2016, 11:31:22 AM
Ha, I remember that Smashed Gladys song! I don't think I've even heard it since '88 :lol

Same here. So awful! :lol

Hey I like that album!
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 03:37:28 PM: I'm sure you do! :lol

I definitely remember hearing that song back in the day.

I'm up to Kingdom Comeshot. I don't remember Stone Fury getting Zep Ripped.
I think it was get It On that caused the comments.

Am I the only one who hears Def Lep's Another Hit And Run on Shout It Out?

Yes, skip the Chicago, please. :lol

SFSGSW is awesome! But you picked the worst song on the album to play. In My Hour Of Darkness might be a TAC Top 20 track of all time, and Mary Jane :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 04:05:47 PM: "Awful", "horrific"....................never change Tim. Your honesty is refreshing :lol

I was ducking for cover mentally as I included some of these tracks , but then I know that pretty much every single track will be enjoyed by at least one of you and I didn't want it to all be predictable. . I made a point of sticking to my guns and including a few left of centre . Good to see Jeff Healey get some love :tup

And Kade will likely back me up on Barnesy :lol It's like Vegemite - if you grow up with it , you like it. The track I chose was the only one I could think of that some outside Australia would know , but technically it's INXS covering The Easybeats (a 60's Australian band) with Barnes guesting - so not necessarily representative. If I had grown up with Blondie..........who knows? ;)

Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2016, 03:37:28 PM

Am I the only one who hears Def Lep's Another Hit And Run on Shout It Out?

Yes, skip the Chicago, please. :lol

SFSGSW is awesome! But you picked the worst song on the album to play. In My Hour Of Darkness might be a TAC Top 20 track of all time, and Mary Jane :metal

I can hear the Def Lep a bit , yeah.

Chicago was the only one where I thought the bagging would be so merciless , I might just pass :lol

I'm not a big fan of Anarchy either , but in some cases I went for the more well known track.

34 downloads so far and I haven't mentioned it outside this thread .............so thanks for the support whoever you are :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 04:27:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 04:05:47 PM
"Awful", "horrific"....................never change Tim. Your honesty is refreshing :lol

All I can say is Slim Dusty better not be in the Top 10!

:neverusethis:

Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 04:05:47 PM
34 downloads so far and I haven't mentioned it outside this thread .............so thanks for the support whoever you are :lol

I downloaded it twice thinking the first one was a mistake! ;D

Either that or the young guns really think it's 1998!
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 04:28:27 PM: I remember 220 Volt!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 04:28:40 PM: I'm impressed that you even know who Slim Dusty is Tim :hefdaddy
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 04:33:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
I'm impressed that you even know who Slim Dusty is Tim :hefdaddy

Don't get too excited. :lol We wore this video out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nck7CHPRPoI

Rolf Harris too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTR-kGgF2EI
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 04:36:01 PM: I see. I barely know who Slim Dusty is :lol

The less said about Rolfy these days the better :-\
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 04:40:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 04:36:01 PM
I see. I barely know who Slim Dusty is :lol

The less said about Rolfy these days the better :-\

Why, has Rolf passed away?

I remember seeing a picture of him with Bruce Dickinson. I did a google search but it's not coming up.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 04:42:52 PM: Google "Rolf Harris child sex abuse"
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2016, 04:44:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 04:42:52 PM
Google "Rolf Harris child sex abuse"

Oh, get out! Wow.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 12, 2016, 10:30:49 PM: I never heard of him before but that Rolf is a piece of thrash
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Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2016, 10:31:55 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 12, 2016, 10:30:49 PM
I never heard of him before but that Rolf is a piece of thrash

You are so metal JJ , even when you're not intending to be.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 12, 2016, 10:49:14 PM: :lol

If anyone deserves a Ric Flair low blow, its Rolf
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2016, 12:44:03 AM: Finished getting through the podcast. I gotta say that until the top 10 or so, it was starting to sound too samey for me. A lot of "I can't believe it's not Maiden/Priest/Queensryche", and of course those bands too. :lol

The tail end was great though!
I'm not a big fan of Out of This World, as you pointed out many weren't, but still glad to see Europe included.
Of course VH had to be in there. Not a huge fan of the album, but I still like it. Not a song I would have chosen from the album, and I can't say I agree with you on F.U.C.K.
WINGER! :biggrin: Madelaine is one of my favs from the album.
Skyscraper - I love DLR, but not so much with Vai. I'm just not a Vai fan. But it's DLR, so you still get points.
Too Hot To Sleep. Fuck yeah. It's hard to go wrong with any song, but nonetheless great choice.
I'm not familiar with the song you chose from New Jersey, but I enjoyed it. I tend to stick to the same tracks from NJ but have neglected a few, so you've prompted me to give that a more thorough listen.
No Rest For the Wicked is one of my least favourite Ozzy albums, but it's still Ozzy dammit. Again, great track choice though.
Odyssey - I like this album even though I'm not much of an Yngwie fan. Solid song, not a favourite. Probably would have gone with Crystal Ball myself.

There's only one notable omission for me, which you already addressed in the outro. Still should have been top 10 though. ;)

There were a few songs/albums in there that I might check out, can't remembered the names as I only jotted down the timestamps for now.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 01:09:28 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2016, 12:44:03 AM
Finished getting through the podcast. I gotta say that until the top 10 or so, it was starting to sound too samey for me. A lot of "I can't believe it's not Maiden/Priest/Queensryche", and of course those bands too. :lol

The tail end was great though!
I'm not a big fan of Out of This World, as you pointed out many weren't, but still glad to see Europe included.
Of course VH had to be in there. Not a huge fan of the album, but I still like it. Not a song I would have chosen from the album, and I can't say I agree with you on F.U.C.K.
WINGER! :biggrin: Madelaine is one of my favs from the album.
Skyscraper - I love DLR, but not so much with Vai. I'm just not a Vai fan. But it's DLR, so you still get points.
Too Hot To Sleep. Fuck yeah. It's hard to go wrong with any song, but nonetheless great choice.
I'm not familiar with the song you chose from New Jersey, but I enjoyed it. I tend to stick to the same tracks from NJ but have neglected a few, so you've prompted me to give that a more thorough listen.
No Rest For the Wicked is one of my least favourite Ozzy albums, but it's still Ozzy dammit. Again, great track choice though.
Odyssey - I like this album even though I'm not much of an Yngwie fan. Solid song, not a favourite. Probably would have gone with Crystal Ball myself.

There's only one notable omission for me, which you already addressed in the outro. Still should have been top 10 though. ;)

There were a few songs/albums in there that I might check out, can't remembered the names as I only jotted down the timestamps for now.

Thanks Blob - glad you enjoyed it. I know that a lot of what you liked about the latter parts will likely piss others off , but those of us who also like our AOR will rate them :) . I thought there was decent variety along the way but I suppose when everything is within a certain genre there's only so much variety on offer.

If you hear all your faves and pick up a new artist or two , that's the goal. There will likely be a few more for you in the next podcast - it has a few of my favourite SONGS from 1988 that were on (IMHO) less consistent albums.

As far as song choices go - I agree on things like Crystal Ball being a better song , but in the end I just chose songs for whatever reason :lol In the case of Deja Vu I thought a few people may know it better than a song like Crystal Ball . Bringing back memories was a goal too.

On VH..........I still like F.U.C.K but from a guitarists point of view I felt that he started recycling some very basic licks over and over from that period on and the fat guitar tone of the Music Man (at the time) only added to that for me. That sort of tone just wasn't him to my ears. There were exceptions.....the solos on songs like The Dream Is Over and Pleasure Dome were classic Ed.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2016, 01:17:43 AM: I think it was more a matter of when you listen to a block of 50 or so songs from the same year and similar genre all for the first time, it will tend to blur together a bit. It's like when you get a new album and sometimes it will sound samey, then once you listen to it a few more times the differences become more apparent. I'll have to give it another skim later and see what begins to stand out. Either way there was some new stuff in there to check out. :tup
Can't wait for part 2.
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Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2016, 05:30:20 AM: Yeah, won't get onto downloading this until probably tomorrow night, but from the reading here it's full of music win! Looking forward to it.

Yeah, got a soft spot for Barnsey but disappointed to read which track you chose Brent, but can see why.

Agree with Jason on Blood Red Skies too.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 05:47:29 AM: Listening to the Top 15 this morning before work...

Nice VH tune. I did not take to 5150, but I really liked OU812 when it came out.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 06:03:56 AM: Even though I bought Long Cold Winter, I think I only listened to it a few times. I liked their debut, but in '88, I was getting back into speedier and thrashier stuff.

I thought you weren't going to play Chicago!. Oh wait, it's House Of Lords. ;D
I actually saw them and I must say that their singer was one of the three worst frontmen I'd ever seen. All he did was strut and mug to the crowd.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 06:08:56 AM: Here comes number 10...........
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 06:15:41 AM: Winger?? Seriously?? A Top 10 album?? Top 100? No way. One of the worst things I have ever heard in my entire life. I can't even..
I'd rather listen to an hour of Slim Dusty FFS!

How an anyone even play this with a straight face?

I'm having A HEART ATTACK RIGHT NOW.

And you're a rotten Dad too for putting poor Ben in this position.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 06:17:55 AM: Nice - that makes it all worth it :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2016, 06:26:49 AM: The Winger album is better than everything before it in that countdown. Correctly placed.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 06:29:31 AM: No wonder Australia is an island. ;D

Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 06:17:55 AM
Nice - that makes it all worth it :lol
Glad I didn't disappoint! :lol

And Wild Is the Wind is a fantastic song. I really like that album. They were a great live band in the 80's.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2016, 06:34:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 13, 2016, 06:29:31 AM
No wonder Australia is an island. ;D

So we could more easily keep your failed opinions from spreading here like a virus? :police:
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 06:39:29 AM: I heard that they were going to reclassify Australia as the Winger Quarantine Zone. :xbones
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 13, 2016, 06:46:40 AM: I wish I could find the pic I had of TAC with the Winger logo as his avatar.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 06:49:54 AM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 13, 2016, 06:46:40 AM
I wish I could find the pic I had of TAC with the Winger logo as his avatar.

This is better Cozmo........and it's almost Christmas so.......:metal

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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 13, 2016, 06:53:09 AM: Fucking glorious.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 07:32:44 AM: So Top 5...

******Spoiler alert********

Ozzy- I have never taken to this album. At all. I love NMT, but this album to me just never happened. So inferior.
Dare- Never gotten into them. Was aware of them at the time though.
Yngwie- Great album. I totally ignored it at the time. All I had to go on was Heaven Tonight and those horrible pictures.
-Great commentary by Ben_
Crimson Glory-Another band I didn't check out back then. I thought the whole mask thing was cheesey and I never gave them a chance. Too bad. It's great stuff.
Dokken-I agree with what you said about this vs the studio albums. Totally agree.
Queensryche-No surprise.

Where is Justice??
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 07:33:41 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 06:49:54 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 13, 2016, 06:46:40 AM
I wish I could find the pic I had of TAC with the Winger logo as his avatar.

This is better Cozmo........and it's almost Christmas so.......:metal

You're all gonna die! :rollin
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 07:35:11 AM: So in the early QR albums, what always struck me was how much FUN Scott Rockenfield's drum parts sounded.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 07:39:54 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 13, 2016, 07:33:41 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 06:49:54 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 13, 2016, 06:46:40 AM
I wish I could find the pic I had of TAC with the Winger logo as his avatar.

This is better Cozmo........and it's almost Christmas so.......:metal

You're all gonna die! :rollin

:tdwn for deleting the pic out of the quote :biggrin:

Quote from: TAC on October 13, 2016, 07:35:11 AM
So in the early QR albums, what always struck me was how much FUN Scott Rockenfield's drum parts sounded.

Agreed - very under rated drummer and am very keen to hear him live for the first time tonight.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 07:58:00 AM: Just finished.

In all seriousness, awesome job Brent. Ages 12-14 are such an amazing age for music discovery. For me, that would be '81-'82. So many special albums, as there were for you in 1988. This really became less about an objective countdown than it became a bearing of the "music" soul. Thanks for taking us on along for the ride.
I mean, no one would ever rate Joe Perry's I've Got The Rock n Rolls Again as a great album, but I'd easily rate it over many other huger albums in 1981.

I had moved on from a lot of the type of stuff you were featuring, but as the music scene really exploded during the late 80's, it was quite difficult to keep up. There was no Google, Spotify, etc.. Many times the radio would never play these bands, and literally all you had to go on was a magazine picture of some sort. Singularly the reason that I never heard a note of Crimson Glory. It's the reason I totally passed on Odyssey.

I was lucky enough to do a Heavy Metal radio show in college, so I did have access to tons of albums. Heck, I even sampled WDADU during this time because I liked the name of the band. I turned 20 in 1988, and even hearing things like Warrant, who I was not into, really transports me back to that time. So thank you for that. BTW, saw Warrant twice and they kicked total ass!

As much as I know know a lot of the Rest of '88 won't be great music-wise, it's a podcast that I wouldn't miss for the world. It's a chance to relive some youth.

So thank you Brent for all of your work in this. You will likely not understand how much it is so truly appreciated
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 13, 2016, 08:04:40 AM: Not like I don't already have enough things to listen to, but now I clearly need to listen to this. Links?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 08:10:50 AM: Thanks Tim- appreciate the feedback.

I had one radio show out here on indie radio at 10pm - midnight on a Sunday night and that was my only radio source and he spent half the show playing death metal. Apart from that and my own research you would barely need more than one hand to count the number of albums in my podcast that made radio out here. There was no Cinderella, Winger, Tesla etc....on radio in Australia. Just the hugest of the huge at the time for the most part (Jovi, Europe etc.. and the odd big single from a 2nd tier band like Cherry Pie).

So it was the same for me - mags and forming contacts with people through my band and otherwise. When I was about 14 or 15 (being the researcher I am) I managed to make the acquaintance of a bloke out here who wrote a rock/metal column in a gig guide - he managed local metal acts and was part owner of an obscure British label (Now and Then) . He took me under his wing and used to send me mix tapes of obscure bands for me to get into - I was hugely grateful. I also was in touch with the guy who would later form melodicrock.com - back then he ran a little "by mail" record store and he would often send me stuff to listen to - I would buy what I liked and send the rest back. Again..........I was very grateful to him for that trust. He has lost the plot lately but he was spot on back then :lol

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 13, 2016, 08:04:40 AM
Not like I don't already have enough things to listen to, but now I clearly need to listen to this. Links?

See down the bottom of the OP Coz
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 08:19:40 AM: Who's the band right after Kingdom Come? The music is awesome but the singer is killing me...it sounds like he has a reciprocating dildo plunging in his backside.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 08:21:22 AM: Quote from: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 08:19:40 AM
Who's the band right after Kingdom Come? The music is awesome but the singer is killing me...it sounds like he has a reciprocating dildo plunging in his backside.

That he would be a she :rollin

Zed Yago.
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 08:23:38 AM: Seriously? I'm rewinding now to listen again.

[edit]

Oh, right you are.

Quote from: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 08:19:40 AM
Who's the band right after Kingdom Come? The music is awesome but the singer is killing me...it sounds like she has a reciprocating dildo plunging in her vagina.

FTFM

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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2016, 08:27:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 08:21:22 AM
Quote from: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 08:19:40 AM
Who's the band right after Kingdom Come? The music is awesome but the singer is killing me...it sounds like he has a reciprocating dildo plunging in his backside.

That he would be a she :rollin

It was such a fine line in 1988. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 08:29:05 AM: Well Mark Free..............nevermind ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 13, 2016, 08:30:11 AM: I'm not going there. :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 08:37:32 AM: :facepalm:

:lol
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 09:16:51 AM: Oh dear...

Just hit number 20 and it's probably no surprise that I'm very pleased by inclusion of BÖC. Especially so high on the list! :tup

Full song title "The Siege and Investiture of Baron von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria"
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 09:43:14 AM: Told you I took no notice of the concept :lol I would've needed to drag one of my iTunes columns across to reveal the last few words of the song title :)
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 10:04:42 AM: I gotta take a break from listening for awhile to do some business. Which is probably good, I need to try and cleanse my brain from that Europe song.

In the words of TAC, I was traumatized by it's horribleness. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 13, 2016, 01:29:31 PM: Great job with this Brent. There are bands that I've never even heard of before, so thats a huge bonus.
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Post by: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 03:52:38 PM: Okay, finished up and enjoyed it tremendously. Thank you very much, Sir. Oh, and little Ben too! I share his enthusiasm for metal.

My list may have come out a bit differently but Operation Mindcrime would have probably been in the exact same spot for that year.

:clap: :tup :hefdaddy
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 06:21:14 PM: Quote from: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 03:52:38 PM
Okay, finished up and enjoyed it tremendously. Thank you very much, Sir. Oh, and little Ben too! I share his enthusiasm for metal.

My list may have come out a bit differently but Operation Mindcrime would have probably been in the exact same spot for that year.

:clap: :tup :hefdaddy
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 13, 2016, 01:29:31 PM
Great job with this Brent. There are bands that I've never even heard of before, so thats a huge bonus.

Thanks guys............and thanks Pod for the shout out to Ben . I try and make him feel a big part of it and he does ask if people really want us to keep doing them. I will point it out to him , as well as the fact that we have 55 downloads just from a post in this thread which , given we really have little more than half a dozen regular posters , is pretty amazing. :omg:
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 07:08:13 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 06:21:14 PM
, as well as the fact that we have 55 downloads just from a post in this thread which , given we really have little more than half a dozen regular posters , is pretty amazing. :omg:

Well, I actually downloaded it twice because with Helloween/Maiden in the 40's and Winger at 10, I figured the first download was defective! ;D
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Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2016, 07:11:31 PM: Missing out here. Will download tonight.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2016, 07:18:22 PM: Quote from: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 03:52:38 PM
My list may have come out a bit differently but Operation Mindcrime would have probably been in the exact same spot for that year.

My #1 was Keepers Pt.2 for 1988. Of course O:M was great, but it really jumped out at me as I was not a huge fan of RFO at the time. I was wondering WTF was up with them, as I LOVED Warning.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 11:00:27 PM: Off to see Queensryche........... :2metal:
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2016, 05:39:56 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2016, 04:28:27 PM
I remember 220 Volt!

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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2016, 05:51:15 AM: The Chadster!!! :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 12:17:47 PM: Welcome back good sir. You haven't missed anything. We've just been killing time til you came back :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 12:24:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2016, 08:21:22 AM
Quote from: Podaar on October 13, 2016, 08:19:40 AM
Who's the band right after Kingdom Come? The music is awesome but the singer is killing me...it sounds like he has a reciprocating dildo plunging in his backside.

That he would be a she :rollin

Zed Yago.

I've got a Zed Yago album (interweb tells me it's Pilgrimage) on clear vinyl. I thought it was complete shit. Not heard it since that time. Pretty sure Kerrang gave it a big score. I was suckered in. Did I miss a classic?
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Post by: Kotowboy on October 14, 2016, 01:11:00 PM: Didn't know where else to post but I found out that Enuff'Z'Nuff are still a band and have a new album out :lol

I thought bands like that all died a horrible death when the clock struck 1990
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Post by: Mosh on October 14, 2016, 01:16:22 PM: I think they've been going somewhat consistently since forming, no breakups or hiatuses that I've heard of. Pretty unusual for bands from that era. I consider their debut one of the better glam metal albums.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 02:38:28 PM: Just started the podcast -
not heard the Meanstreak in a long time. Love the singer.
The Adrian Dodz is very good It just sounded dated even at the time. Reminds me of the first Bon Jovi album but better songs, and singer.
Testament were great til the singer kicked in.
Steeler :metal
Jason Becker :hefdaddy :hefdaddy and you're wrong. It's all classic! Altitudes is just awesome though.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 03:00:20 PM: I like some female fronted hard rock and that Smashed Gladys album is pretty good.
Classic Virgin Steele. If only VS had ManOwaR's later production budget and their singer... though The Lion sounds ok on this. You're right about that video.
Tyrant I've only heard in more recent years thanks to YouTube. I'd heard of them, but not heard them back in the day.
Open Up is a great album. I played the shit out of it at the time too. Still play it a lot.

No arguments with anything posted so far Brent.

First band I don't know - Ruff or is it Rough? Enjoyed it. I'm not a big Doro fan so the voice was a bit take it or leave it, but it grew on me.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:09:56 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 02:38:28 PM
Just started the podcast -
not heard the Meanstreak in a long time. Love the singer.
The Adrian Dodz is very good It just sounded dated even at the time.
I've never heard Meanstreak before. It was excellent. Loved the instrumental part. Impressive.

Was Adrian Dodz the second track played? If it was, I didn't like it. :)

I thought the Joshua tune was awesome.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 03:23:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 02:38:28 PM
Just started the podcast -
not heard the Meanstreak in a long time. Love the singer.
The Adrian Dodz is very good It just sounded dated even at the time.
I've never heard Meanstreak before. It was excellent. Loved the instrumental part. Impressive.

Was Adrian Dodz the second track played? If it was, I didn't like it. :)

I thought the Joshua tune was awesome.
Do you mean the Prophet track? Or did I miss one?

Forgot how good that Witness album is. Another great female singer. I've only got this on an old cassette someone did for me years ago.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:29:29 PM: I think both bands were played. I thought he played a band called Joshua. Brent was saying the production stunk, but it sounded great.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 03:35:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
I think both bands were played. I thought he played a band called Joshua. Brent was saying the production stunk, but it sounded great.

That will be Joshua then, intense defence. I think He's right.

Keepers part 2 is better than part 1. The drums kill part 1 for me. They're not great on part 2 but at least they don't wind me up quite as much.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 03:37:34 PM: SSoaSS disappointed me at the time but has grown on me. The concept side of it is shit and the whole thing paled in comparison to mindcrime.

Good call on Paul Sabu...
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 03:55:37 PM: Second band I don't know, Tattoo. Fairly standard stuff. Liked it more as it went on.

I'd stopped listening to AC/DC before 88. That song was ok though.
The singer killed Angeldust for me. Time hasn't changed that...

Vinnie Vincent :metal but it's the first album all the way for me. Mark Slaughter is like nails on a blackboard. This album didn't have enough great songs. Was that a single edit?

Digital Dictator :hefdaddy I love the way you Aussies call something ordinary when you mean shite :biggrin: Shane Warne's cricket commentary uses it loads.

Ram It Down has grown on me. Didn't like it at the time, probably because of Johnny B Goode :tdwn. BRS is a great song.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2016, 04:18:10 PM: Just about to go into a tirade at you dissing Magnum but then realised I agree with you. Those two albums are great stuff. The rest is patchy to "ordinary" :lol

Good to see Jeff Healey get some love. Was n the front row at Manchester Apollo for this tour. I thought I was going to have to catch him when he jumped up and started walking around. He was a big lad too!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 14, 2016, 04:51:42 PM: I'm not sure what Judas Priest was thinking when they recorded Johnny B Goode. While it's an ok song, it's completely out of place in their discography. It was on a soundtrack for a movie with Anthony Michael Hall, so I'm assuming they saw just a mainstream opportunity. It's definitely skip button worthy.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2016, 06:07:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
I think both bands were played. I thought he played a band called Joshua. Brent was saying the production stunk, but it sounded great.

It sounded much better on the podcast as I spent a bit of time EQ'ing it.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 14, 2016, 06:33:07 PM: How as the QR show last night mate?
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2016, 06:39:40 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2016, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
I think both bands were played. I thought he played a band called Joshua. Brent was saying the production stunk, but it sounded great.

It sounded much better on the podcast as I spent a bit of time EQ'ing it.

Right. I liked that track. You did a great job with it because I thought it sounded great.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2016, 07:56:45 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on October 14, 2016, 06:33:07 PM
How as the QR show last night mate?

THE BAD

- not a great venue ...shitty little stage and a vertical roof support beam right in front of the left side of the stage
- $25 for parking and $11 for a small glass of bourbon and Coke :omg:
- the band only played for 70 mins
- Teramaze pulled out last minute and were replaced with a far inferior band >:(

- the VIP session. It wasn't awful but we were told to be in there at 6.45pm for a 7pm start , so an hour before doors opened. Queensryche normally do nice,small and personal VIP sessions but there was 30 people and they waltzed in well after 7.30pm , didn't look rapt to be there and we were told to get on our bike and rush everything as doors open 8pm. I'm not pushy enough .........if I had been a real prick I no doubt could've muscled my way in (they're all midgets ;D) and got what I wanted.....which was a voice over for you guys for the podcast giving you all a shout out , but it didn't happen. :'(

the GOOD

- once they hit the stage they were very gracious and thankful to the fans , which was a bit weird after the dull VIP session
- good setlist for the time they played https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/queensryche/2016/prince-bandroom-melbourne-australia-53fd73ed.html
- the sound was good. The support acts were way too loud. I have been quite sick lately and am puffy around the gills (inflamed lymph glands) which was feeding into ear pain , but thankfully QR had much better sound. They were loud but pretty clear and not ear plug-worthy.

- the band were much happier and more energetic on stage than last I saw them (OM 2 tour)

- Todd was fucking amazing. Youtube vids don't do him justice. I thought he may struggle but he nailed every note and his performance on Take Hold of The Flame was something to behold. A couple of times his high screams hurt the ears - the only other guy who has done that to me is Ripper Owens .

Will upload some pics and vids later if I can (not as good as I had hoped from an iPhone 5S , but then again the lighting was awful)

On the whole it was a great night and really an old style club gig without any trimmings. Great night out with my little sis' and we even did the traditional McDonalds stop on the way home at 1am :metal Could've been better but I would definitely recommend seeing them if you can.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 14, 2016, 08:42:30 PM: QR only played for 70 mins?
Geez that is pretty disappointing and really not acceptable for a veteran band with 15 or so studio albums.
Symphony X gave us just on 120 min set on Wednesday.

The Sydney venue is a bar at the University of Sydney, I've been their before and is pretty decent.

I'm still undecided if I am going or not.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 14, 2016, 10:25:03 PM: Glad you had a great time Brent!!

70 min is a very short set for a head liner though
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Post by: Big Hath on October 14, 2016, 10:45:57 PM: 2/3 of the way through the show so far.

really enjoyed that King Kobra. I only have their first album so maybe the rest of their stuff is worth checking out.

That Adrian Dodz album is decent. I didn't rate that song quite as high as some others on the album.

Testament!!!

That Virgin Steele track was great!

I've listened to the Prophet and Only Child albums in full recently. Good stuff.

There are a few really good tracks on that Angel Dust album.

I really like Jeff Healey. Angel Eyes is a classic.

That Jimmy Barnes song was on The Lost Boys soundtrack! It plays in the movie during the carnival scene. I've only seen the movie eleventy billion times.

What song were you going to play from Chicago 19??
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2016, 11:52:32 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on October 14, 2016, 10:45:57 PM

What song were you going to play from Chicago 19??

I probably would've gone with Heart In Pieces - about as rockin' as it gets.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 15, 2016, 12:59:23 AM: Quote from: Kotowboy on October 14, 2016, 01:11:00 PM
Didn't know where else to post but I found out that Enuff'Z'Nuff are still a band and have a new album out :lol

I thought bands like that all died a horrible death when the clock struck 1990

Then you thought horribly painfully wrong. ;)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2016, 01:04:44 AM: here's some photos/footage for you. I think going to a gig and filming/watching the whole thing on your phone (as the guy next to me was doing) is fucking nuts , so I just have some short grabs of key moments/key songs.

Thankfully I had a good spot - the only part that was a bit elevated with a little bench to lean on and hold my drinks , so the view is better than if I had been lower down. If you click on the YT links make sure it is set for HD playback in Settings.

Queen Of The Reich: https://youtu.be/qHJB2JlU_sE
Killing Words: https://youtu.be/M0mU6evN4Bs
Eyes Of A Stranger : https://youtu.be/F-wXdTi8VoU

As I said above - the Youtube vids through a phone mic don't do Todd justice.

I managed to get Ben a spare VIP pass and a signed photo, so he's happy with me.

(https://s14.postimg.org/kuqkdru81/IMG_0191.jpg)

and a photo of me with the band....... the lighting was washing everyone out and just my shitty phone camera.. I've darkened it up a bit with a bit of success but still not a great photo

(https://s15.postimg.org/qt7zazzej/IMG_0159_5.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2016, 06:03:31 AM: Which one are you?

:neverusethis:
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2016, 06:16:18 AM: I was spewing that I didn't bring my sunnies :lol

I'm the one who is happy to be there :neverusethis:
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Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2016, 06:37:28 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2016, 06:16:18 AM
I was spewing that I didn't bring my sunnies :lol

I'm the one who is happy to be there :neverusethis:

:)
70 mins is shit. No excuse other than laziness... not short of material are they >:(

Glad you had a good time though.
Enjoying the podcast.
You're a giant among dwarves there Brent :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2016, 03:25:01 PM: Loved the BOC track. Never heard that before.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 15, 2016, 03:42:43 PM: Did you get to chat with the band much Brent?

That venue looks tiny, looks like a small basement bar. I can't see the band benefited that much financially by flying out just to play a small club. But I guess they still made some cash
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Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2016, 04:26:15 PM: :biggrin: Ben the metal Head! 0 out of 10 for dare was brutal!

Lol at the face melting Yngwie solo :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2016, 06:22:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2016, 06:16:18 AM
I'm the one who is happy to be there :neverusethis:

:lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2016, 07:22:57 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 15, 2016, 04:26:15 PM
:biggrin: Ben the metal Head! 0 out of 10 for dare was brutal!

Lol at the face melting Yngwie solo :lol

Ben unleashed the fucking fury on Dare ;D

Quote from: jjrock88 on October 15, 2016, 03:42:43 PM
Did you get to chat with the band much Brent?

That venue looks tiny, looks like a small basement bar. I can't see the band benefited that much financially by flying out just to play a small club. But I guess they still made some cash

Nah........the band rocked up late and it was all rushed. very disappointing in that regard.

There would've been 600-700 people there at the gig. When a band tours out here to those crowds it's mostly a paid holiday after the promoter does their thing and crew are paid. They would've made a little bit ..........the money they made from those that paid for VIP tix may be cream straight to them. All the more reason they should make an effort to be there on time and pretend they're enjoying it.
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Post by: KevShmev on October 15, 2016, 09:49:05 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 14, 2016, 04:51:42 PM
I'm not sure what Judas Priest was thinking when they recorded Johnny B Goode. While it's an ok song, it's completely out of place in their discography. It was on a soundtrack for a movie with Anthony Michael Hall, so I'm assuming they saw just a mainstream opportunity. It's definitely skip button worthy.

While I agree, it's not like the rest of Ram It Down is that good either. The title track and Blood Red Skies are both tremendous, and Monsters of Rock is kinda cool, but the rest is all pretty forgettable, IMO.
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Post by: Imaginos on October 15, 2016, 10:58:55 PM: Quote from: KevShmev on October 15, 2016, 09:49:05 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 14, 2016, 04:51:42 PM
I'm not sure what Judas Priest was thinking when they recorded Johnny B Goode. While it's an ok song, it's completely out of place in their discography. It was on a soundtrack for a movie with Anthony Michael Hall, so I'm assuming they saw just a mainstream opportunity. It's definitely skip button worthy.

While I agree, it's not like the rest of Ram It Down is that good either. The title track and Blood Red Skies are both tremendous, and Monsters of Rock is kinda cool, but the rest is all pretty forgettable, IMO.

As cheesy as they may be, I've always liked Love Zone and Hard as Iron too.
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Post by: Mosh on October 15, 2016, 11:26:38 PM: Hard As Iron is an amazing track. One of the first songs I think of when the topic of under-appreciated/unplayed Priest songs comes up. Put that song on Painkiller and it'd be considered a classic Priest tune.
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2016, 04:20:51 AM: Hard As Iron is one of the most underrated Priest tracks IMO, great stuff.

Just starting to have a listen to the podcast now, but will take me quite a few nights to get through it.

QR playing for 70 mins is bullshit too.
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2016, 04:53:28 AM: Some solid stuff at the start of the podcast.

King Kobra I've liked everything of what I've heard of the early stuff so I should check this album.

The Adrain Dodz was really solid.

Testament :metal :metal :metal

The Lillian Axe has been recommended to me a few times of the last couple of years and I can see why, great track.

Altitudes. :hefdaddy

The Tyrant was pretty good too.

Burning of Rome is fucking incredible!!
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2016, 05:07:59 AM: The Prophet was nice AOR.
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Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2016, 05:33:35 AM: As much of a deadset classic Keepers II is, I agree that Rise and fall brings it down a bit. Although I think if it were buried deeper around track 8 or 9, it wouldn't be so much of an issue.
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Post by: wolfking on October 18, 2016, 05:30:25 AM: That Hittman was awesome, and fuck that Vicious Rumors was kickass. Still gotta check them out and definitely will now after that song.

Blood Red Skies and Ram it Down are both IMO brilliant. Lots of underrated stuff on RID.

Agree with you on the Magnum Brent, but Wings of Heaven is great. Great pick with Wild Swan too, one of my favs if not fav from that album.
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Post by: Big Hath on October 18, 2016, 03:07:48 PM: ok just listened to the last 20 or so songs on the podcast

BOC, nice!

That Europe song . . . kind of had a Pointer Sisters vibe to it? The guitar did sound great though.

that keyboard intro on that House of Lords song, holy cow

got to the top 5 and realized I wasn't getting Justice and rage-paused the podcast :biggrin:

You might as well have played that Chicago song considering the other stuff that was included :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 18, 2016, 03:10:52 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on October 18, 2016, 03:07:48 PM
You might as well have played that Chicago song considering the other stuff that was included :lol

I thought the same thing while listening to...

Quote from: Big Hath on October 18, 2016, 03:07:48 PM
that keyboard intro on that House of Lords song, holy cow
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Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2016, 05:12:30 AM: Barnsey!!! :hefdaddy :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on October 19, 2016, 05:14:49 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 19, 2016, 05:12:30 AM
Barnsey!!! :hefdaddy :metal

Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2016, 02:58:48 PM
:rollin
The fall asleep comment was perfectly timed, because I just opened up the page to say that if that Barnes song made the Top 60, then the Bottom 60 must really suck! :lol

My word, that was horrific!

:lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2016, 05:21:25 AM: haha, I agree that Good Times is a pretty crap song, I never liked it, but as Brent said, Freight Train Heart is fucking killer.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 19, 2016, 05:27:16 AM: A few songs into the new Oliver Hartmann disk.....................Zzzzzzzzzz

UPDATE: fucking awful
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Post by: Lowdz on October 19, 2016, 03:05:22 PM: Oh dear. Mind you, I wasn't expecting much. The last one was a snooze fest, wasn't it
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Post by: bl5150 on October 19, 2016, 04:06:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 19, 2016, 03:05:22 PM
Oh dear. Mind you, I wasn't expecting much. The last one was a snooze fest, wasn't it

I'm guessing this one leaves the last one in its dust :D His last album was called The Best Is Yet To Come btw :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2016, 04:49:22 PM: I've never heard of or listened to Oliver Hartmann. A review of "fucking awful" won't change that lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 19, 2016, 04:55:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 19, 2016, 04:49:22 PM
I've never heard of or listened to Oliver Hartmann. A review of "fucking awful" won't change that lol

He's a good metal singer JJ - has appeared on Avantasia, At Vance for multiple albums and done backing vox for Helloween, Primal Fear etc......

But seems he has now gone all poppy singer/songwriter. His first solo album was on the soft side (but edgy and very good) , but it's been downhill from there.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2016, 06:21:00 PM: Copy, thanks
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Post by: bl5150 on October 19, 2016, 06:28:39 PM: Re the 1988 podcast - I have not even attempted to promote it outside of our small group here but somebody seems to have seen it and run with it.

Check this out

(https://s16.postimg.org/3yai7npxh/podacast.png)
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Post by: TAC on October 19, 2016, 06:35:37 PM: Wow! That's amazing! Probably all of the kids in Ben's school!! ;D
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Post by: Big Hath on October 19, 2016, 06:58:56 PM: whoa!
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Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2016, 09:17:12 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 19, 2016, 05:27:16 AM
A few songs into the new Oliver Hartmann disk.....................Zzzzzzzzzz

UPDATE: fucking awful

I like Oliver as a singer and a guitarist, but his solo work is just average at best. Not a great songwriter.

Quote from: bl5150 on October 19, 2016, 06:28:39 PM
Re the 1988 podcast - I have not even attempted to promote it outside of our small group here but somebody seems to have seen it and run with it.

Check this out

(https://s16.postimg.org/3yai7npxh/podacast.png)

That's killer man.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2016, 09:22:59 PM: That's awesome to see!!!
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2016, 05:14:50 AM: I wonder who those 755 people are.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 20, 2016, 05:18:40 AM: Bots.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2016, 05:22:30 AM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2016, 05:28:41 AM: Man, that Kingdom Come was awesome. The lead guitars have a real Tipton style tone which I love, gotta check that album.
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Post by: Big Hath on October 20, 2016, 06:31:34 AM: it's a good one. Although when the zeppelin references come out, they really hit you in the face. It's amazing how much they sound like them at times.
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Post by: Big Hath on October 20, 2016, 08:30:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 19, 2016, 09:17:12 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 19, 2016, 06:28:39 PM
Re the 1988 podcast - I have not even attempted to promote it outside of our small group here but somebody seems to have seen it and run with it.

Check this out

(https://s16.postimg.org/3yai7npxh/podacast.png)

That's killer man.

Quote from: Ben
~~Metal~~ Adult Contemporary for the Masses
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Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2016, 09:06:23 AM: :)

Should have "The Best of The Rest" podcast up for you next week and then I'll take a break until January. Got all sorts of shit coming up , including moving house for the 2nd time in 12 months , so that's partly why I made sure to get these two big ones done now.

And there are so many 2016 new releases ............I have zero chance of catching up before year end but I will likely make an attempt at a Best of 2016. The late 80's are super tough to research and get a "best of" list done but these days it seems there are more releases per month than there were per year back then ...........most of 'em are rubbish and a lot of the better ones are self funded /hard to find unless you have all day to scour Bandcamp and Cd Baby.

Might ask you guys to post your Top Tens for 2016 before I finalise things and that'll decrease the chances of me missing anything obvious.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 20, 2016, 09:47:35 AM: Primal Fear and Anthrax had awesome releases this year, but I can't see anything beating Fates Warning. What an album!

Astonishing is still my lowest ranking Dream Theater album in their discography, but it would still probably get put in the top 10 for this year due to there not being enough options for me personally.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 20, 2016, 11:36:13 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2016, 05:28:41 AM
Man, that Kingdom Come was awesome. The lead guitars have a real Tipton style tone which I love, gotta check that album.

I dismissed them on hearing the singles which were Zep rip offs. That and Lenny doing his best impression of a vocalist I can't stand :biggrin: I did enjoy that song though, and Stone Fury were pretty good. Might give the album a go.

My rankings would be a lot different I guess, and I probably wouldn't have so many albums listed as a lot weren't up to par, but great work Brent. I really enjoyed the listen.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 20, 2016, 12:28:23 PM: And maybe Joshua Perahia should give Brent a call to remaster Intense Defense :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 20, 2016, 02:12:29 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 20, 2016, 12:28:23 PM
And maybe Joshua Perahia should give Brent a call to remaster Intense Defense :biggrin:

That's a great album and definitely should be remastered and rereleased. But likely wouldn't be a huge demand
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2016, 06:07:59 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 20, 2016, 11:36:13 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2016, 05:28:41 AM
Man, that Kingdom Come was awesome. The lead guitars have a real Tipton style tone which I love, gotta check that album.

I dismissed them on hearing the singles which were Zep rip offs. That and Lenny doing his best impression of a vocalist I can't stand :biggrin: I did enjoy that song though, and Stone Fury were pretty good. Might give the album a go.

I had no use for Kingdom Come.

As much as I liked the Stone Fury when it came out, it did NOT age well.
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2016, 06:39:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 20, 2016, 09:06:23 AM
And there are so many 2016 new releases

Either I just am too busy, or not that interested anymore and easily dismiss stuff now, but I didn't think there was that many ones for me to check at this back end of the year.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2016, 06:42:46 PM: Testament
Metallica
Theocracy
Saxon (new live album)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2016, 06:51:38 PM: The Testament (which I have heard) is getting massive review scores , but I just think it's solid............and I like them. Blabbermouth gave it a 9.5 , but then they also gave Tate's new one an 8 ;D

Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2016, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 20, 2016, 09:06:23 AM
And there are so many 2016 new releases

Either I just am too busy, or not that interested anymore and easily dismiss stuff now, but I didn't think there was that many ones for me to check at this back end of the year.

Looks like I do need to do a Best of 2016 podcast :lol

there's not much from established names granted , but truckloads of other stuff under the radar. trouble is that the strike rate for trawling through it all is much lower and it's a much bigger music universe.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2016, 07:00:06 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 20, 2016, 06:51:38 PM
Looks like I do need to do a Best of 2016 podcast :lol
You better not exclude Flotsam & Jetsam again! That is unless Chicago or Barnsey released a new album this year! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2016, 07:05:55 PM: The thing is for everyone who thinks one of the songs in the podcast was subpar (to use Paul's term) and has named it - in every case I have had feedback from someone else that it was really good. And that includes Barnesy (and not from Kade).

So when that's the case I feel I have done my job , as despite good general consensus on most things there is quite a breadth of taste at the fringes amongst the regulars in this thread. Even Ben throws the kitchen sink at me so I can take it :lol

As far as Barnsey goes , I really haven't been interested since 1988 but his Freight Train Heart , Working Class Man and Cold Chisel albums are worth checking out if you don't mind his screamo vocal style.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2016, 07:20:59 PM: Just joshing you.

You have most certainly "done the job". You always do!
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Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2016, 10:42:49 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 20, 2016, 07:05:55 PM
As far as Barnsey goes , I really haven't been interested since 1988 but his Freight Train Heart , Working Class Man and Cold Chisel albums are worth checking out if you don't mind his screamo vocal style.

Pretty much in the same boat as you on Barnsey. Two Fires had a couple of alright songs but everything else didn't interest me.

I think you've done a wonderful job on the podcast Brent and I still have 2 hours to listen to haha.
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Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2016, 05:47:04 AM: New Herman Frank;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aDjwQnp718

I think this is pretty solid.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on October 21, 2016, 06:47:53 AM: The music was fine, but some of those lyrics were wtf. First of all, what is a ballhog zone anyway? And secondly, ending the chorus with "you suck"? :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 21, 2016, 03:44:17 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/accept-to-unleash-live-blu-ray-dvd-2cd-restless-and-live-in-january-stampede-live-video-streaming

:metal
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Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2016, 05:03:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 21, 2016, 03:44:17 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/accept-to-unleash-live-blu-ray-dvd-2cd-restless-and-live-in-january-stampede-live-video-streaming

:metal

Yes motherfucker!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 21, 2016, 05:45:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 21, 2016, 03:44:17 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/accept-to-unleash-live-blu-ray-dvd-2cd-restless-and-live-in-january-stampede-live-video-streaming

:metal

:metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 21, 2016, 06:13:55 PM: That clip is so f'n awesome! Sounds great, looks great. :metal

Wolf Hoffman. That tone! :hefdaddy
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Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2016, 06:46:24 PM: I love Mark, such a perfect replacement, just class.
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Post by: TAC on October 21, 2016, 06:57:57 PM: I agree. His likeability really outs this version of Accept over the top.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 21, 2016, 07:18:52 PM: Great set list from that bang your head show too!

And there should also be a new studio album from Accept next year too
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Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2016, 04:23:25 AM: Only an hour left of the podcast to get through. :lol

Hail and Kill!! Love that song and album. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2016, 04:36:53 AM: House of Lords. :hefdaddy

And so damn good to see Winger in the top 10. :tup
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Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2016, 05:06:32 AM: Skipped through the last few as bedtime awaits.

No issues with any of what we got in the top ten. Love the inclusion of Dare too, great album. Mindcrime at the top is expected. Love how high Crimson Glory was too.

Well done Brent, brilliant work, can't wait for the best of the rest podcast.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 23, 2016, 05:18:37 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2016, 05:06:32 AM
Skipped through the last few as bedtime awaits.

No issues with any of what we got in the top ten. Love the inclusion of Dare too, great album. Mindcrime at the top is expected. Love how high Crimson Glory was too.

Well done Brent, brilliant work, can't wait for the best of the rest podcast.

Thanks mate . A couple of the guys said their highlight was some of Ben's commentary on the Top 10 , so might be worth a revisit :lol

Pretty much done with "the rest" - just need to think of something for Ben to do at the end.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 23, 2016, 12:49:47 PM: Ben's slaying of Dare was brutal. :biggrin: so soft!!!
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2016, 02:04:36 PM: Pretty sure that was his actual reaction to Winger. I smell some editing hijinks!
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2016, 03:23:17 PM: So anyway, when I got to work at 7:00 this morning Over The Mountain was on the radio. When I got out 8 hours later, Flying High Again was playing! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 23, 2016, 04:56:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2016, 03:23:17 PM
So anyway, when I got to work at 7:00 this morning Over The Mountain was on the radio. When I got out 8 hours later, Flying High Again was playing! :metal

Now you just need some Mr Crowley before going to bed!
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2016, 05:22:33 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 23, 2016, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2016, 03:23:17 PM
So anyway, when I got to work at 7:00 this morning Over The Mountain was on the radio. When I got out 8 hours later, Flying High Again was playing! :metal

Now you just need some Mr Crowley before going to bed!

Or some Mrs. Crowley!

:yarr
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Post by: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 05:26:18 PM: Only in the 21st century would Mr. Crowley turn into Mrs. Crowley.
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2016, 05:26:57 PM: Quote from: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 05:26:18 PM
Only in the 21st century would Mr. Crowley turn into Mrs. Crowley.

WUT?
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Post by: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 06:17:49 PM: Fuck if I know. I'm on 36 hours without sleep. I saw Smurfette a few minutes ago and she was wearing a strap-on.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 23, 2016, 06:26:45 PM: Quote from: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 06:17:49 PM
Fuck if I know. I'm on 36 hours without sleep. I saw Smurfette a few minutes ago and she was wearing a strap-on.

She is going to get revenge on that prick, Gargamel
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2016, 06:29:01 PM: Quote from: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 06:17:49 PM
Fuck if I know. I'm on 36 hours without sleep. I saw Smurfette a few minutes ago and she was wearing a strap-on.

There's a reason Jason mentioned Mr. Crowley. Perhaps you're not aware of my last name.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 23, 2016, 06:45:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2016, 06:29:01 PM
Quote from: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 06:17:49 PM
Fuck if I know. I'm on 36 hours without sleep. I saw Smurfette a few minutes ago and she was wearing a strap-on.

There's a reason Jason mentioned Mr. Crowley. Perhaps you're not aware of my last name.

How many times in your life has someone sung that verse when you introduce yourself to them? I'd imagine it's happened quite a few times. I'd be surprised if it never happened
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2016, 06:54:49 PM: :lol

It has happened my entire life. I cannot tell you how many times I've been serenaded. It's actually quite funny.

I'm 48 years old and it still happens at least once a month.

It's either that or someone will say, "Hey did you know Ozzy Osbourne wrote a song called Mr. Crowley?"
Really?? You don't say! :lol
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Post by: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 07:04:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2016, 06:29:01 PM
Quote from: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 06:17:49 PM
Fuck if I know. I'm on 36 hours without sleep. I saw Smurfette a few minutes ago and she was wearing a strap-on.

There's a reason Jason mentioned Mr. Crowley. Perhaps you're not aware of my last name.

Any relation to the brilliant mind behind the song's inspiration?
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2016, 07:26:17 PM: Quote from: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2016, 06:29:01 PM
Quote from: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 06:17:49 PM
Fuck if I know. I'm on 36 hours without sleep. I saw Smurfette a few minutes ago and she was wearing a strap-on.

There's a reason Jason mentioned Mr. Crowley. Perhaps you're not aware of my last name.

Any relation to the brilliant mind behind the song's inspiration?

noitaler oN. epoN.

;D
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Post by: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 07:58:29 PM: :lol I'm glad you wrote it like that so nobody else will figure it out.
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Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2016, 08:43:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 23, 2016, 05:18:37 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2016, 05:06:32 AM
Skipped through the last few as bedtime awaits.

No issues with any of what we got in the top ten. Love the inclusion of Dare too, great album. Mindcrime at the top is expected. Love how high Crimson Glory was too.

Well done Brent, brilliant work, can't wait for the best of the rest podcast.

Thanks mate . A couple of the guys said their highlight was some of Ben's commentary on the Top 10 , so might be worth a revisit :lol

Pretty much done with "the rest" - just need to think of something for Ben to do at the end.

I caught his reaction to Dare! :lol

So good that he appreciated the Malmsteen too.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2016, 04:47:51 AM: SHould have the new Pretty Maids to check out tomorrow - a bit nervous about this one too, not least because of what seems like a very muddy production job from what I have heard so far.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2016, 05:26:40 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 25, 2016, 04:47:51 AM
SHould have the new Pretty Maids to check out tomorrow - a bit nervous about this one too, not least because of what seems like a very muddy production job from what I have heard so far.

I'm shitting myself a bit over this one too. Considering the last two plus the Louder Than Ever compilation, this is looking like a major disappointment.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2016, 05:32:56 AM: I am listening to the Kee Marcello at the moment. Nothing fantastic but better than I expected (esp the vocals) and at least it has a good production , some decent variation between tracks and doesn't sound like everything else .........aside from the one obvious PiP ripoff. I wish he would resurrect the OOTW tone but I remember reading somewhere that he has tried and can't figure out how he did it :lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2016, 05:36:36 AM: Might have to have a listen to that too. I heard a couple of tracks on youtube and it didn't really do much for me.

Speaking of Pretty Maids, here's a new video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6ebCgH-dI

A bit more promising, but sound like anything on Motherland.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2016, 05:38:30 AM: Yeah.......although that's what really got me worried about the sound. That is the proverbial wall of sound with bugger all clarity IMO. I know some people like that (or don't feel that it's all that bad) , so just personal taste.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2016, 05:45:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 25, 2016, 05:38:30 AM
Yeah.......although that's what really got me worried about the sound. That is the proverbial wall of sound with bugger all clarity IMO. I know some people like that (or don't feel that it's all that bad) , so just personal taste.

Sounds like someone is stuck in 1988! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2016, 05:51:24 AM: yeah, nah (As the footy players say) :lol

Even making allowances , the Pretty Maids is muddy as , in comparison to albums like the Kee Marcello........even Megadeth or Testament. I don't often pick on a muddy production job as it's a fact of life these days but when it gets so muddy it makes the guitar,bass and keys almost indistinguishable then I draw the line. Within Temptation's The Unforgiving was one album that bothered me but fortunately I liked the songs enough to forgive it. Hopefully Pretty Maids do the same but I'm sceptical.
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Post by: Lepprador on October 26, 2016, 03:36:58 AM: Pandemonium put them back on my radar, Motherland was even stronger,
so I was looking forward to the new one. I have to agree with bl5150, unfortunatley it's enjoyment is brought down by a harsh sound. Not as bad as the self-titled Queensryche reboot album, but someone botched the job. That's too bad, because underneath the ear bleeding sound, there are some gems hidden.

Please patch it. In the age where game developers can patch their game years after the release, bands still only have one try. I can't really think of many examples, where an album 2.0 has been released. That one Geoff Tate abomination comes to mind, but why bother ?
Why can't Metallica (I can't believe how much I'm anticipating Hardwired / managed not to ear a single note) offer a remixed version of DM some months after the customers complaints ?
Oh, right...Vapor Trails got a second chance.
Perhaps not the king's way, but put a key code into the booklet, let the customer register the album to receive updates and add ons.

Other candidates for a treatment have been Reedemer Of Souls and A Different Kind Of Truth.

My Top 5 Pretty Maids albums:
Future World
Red, Hot & Heavy
Motherland
Pandemonium
Jump The Gun
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2016, 05:11:47 AM: Hey Lepprador - Pretty Maids have had a few poorly produced albums over time. The very rare Wake Up To The Real World is a good album ruined a bit by bad sound. Great band though - quite a unique straddling of the AOR/metal divide.

So.......new albums from Pretty Maids and Eden's Curse have been playing here today. I was worried about both but the good news is that only one of the bands (I feared both) has totally lost their mojo and that's Eden's Curse.

Once again the EC album is getting rave reviews and Paul Logue (who I like as a person and musician) reckons it's their best effort.........but to me it's just by the numbers stuff , the one exception being the final track (12) Jericho which is classic Eden's Curse and would fit nicely onto their other albums. Too little too late and the rest is pretty poor really. Ironically - given the discussion on Pretty Maids - the production is great.

The Pretty Maids was better than I expected. The sound is shit - even just adding some high end to the guitars would make a huge difference...............you don't get a crunch if it's muddy and sounds like chords on a bass guitar guys. The good news is that you've basically heard all the real wimpy tracks with the advance releases. It rocks harder than I expected and I can't really say they've wimped out. There's some good songs on there and enough variety to make it a pretty easy listen.

Ratings..... Eden's Curse 73% and Pretty Maids 85%
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2016, 05:24:47 AM: Good news on the Pretty Maids there Brent, will for sure probably pick it up then. No surprise with the Eden's Curse. They had something good going with Symphony of Sin, but looks like they fucked it.

And yeah Lepprador, Redeemer of Souls does sound shit and is one of the reasons why I don't rate it at all. The guitar tones are just laughable.
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Post by: Lepprador on October 26, 2016, 06:00:34 AM: I own and can only remember very foggyly the Wake Up To The Real World album. Or Sin-Decade: far from a good production, but listenable (in contrast to the new one).
For me it's like soup. You can have the best ingredients, cooked with love, but if it gets oversalted, it's nothing more than a nice try.
So I can't bring myself to listen to music that pains my ears after 10 minutes.

Redeemer: yes, I still can't get over the pathetic guitar sound. What were they thinking ?
Perhaps (like Lars U. heard DM in his car) it sounded good in a traffic jam ?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2016, 06:56:04 AM: If anyone happens to get Dee Snider's album We Are The Ones , then let us know what you think.

Word of mouth is about as bad as I have heard for anything in a long time.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2016, 11:00:44 AM: I listened to We are the Ones by Dee and ended up turning it off a couple minutes in. Not terrible, but nothing great at all.

It just seems strange that Dee has been so against releasing new albums because he states it is pointless and nobody will buy it. That's been his reason for not releasing any new Twisted Sister albums in decades. But if he is going to put in the effort for this solo album, why not just bring in the boys and make it a Twisted Sister album. It would have to sell better than a Dee solo disc.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2016, 11:13:11 AM: Just checked that track out. I actually like it. Sounds a lot like Brutal Planet era Alice Cooper.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2016, 12:04:32 PM: I really liked Wake Up To The Real World, but yeah, doesn't sound great. PM have been pretty solid and consistent in the last few years so glad it's not bad.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2016, 06:37:06 PM: So I'm supposed to be going to a Halloween party tonight - got a bulging disk in my neck and can barely move but going along will be less painful than the guilt trip if I don't.

So I'm going to a huge effort to get into the spirit of things............

Missus: "So what are you going to wear to the Halloween party"

Me: Helloween....................umm

(https://s17.postimg.org/9nf2vqfof/IMG_0222_1.jpg) (https://s15.postimg.org/5y8m2wsez/IMG_0223_1.jpg)

Missus: OMG ::)

Me: :hat
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2016, 07:30:22 PM: I think I still have my shirt from that tour. I'll check on Monday.

Oh, and the new Testament is kicking my ass! :metal
Been going back and forth with the new Theocracy.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2016, 09:14:01 PM: I need to revisit the Testament as everyone seems to love it and I thought it was just good - Testament by the numbers mostly (and I'm a fan). Eric said that he basically wrote the whole thing and then late on Chuck had his input and Alex just phoned in a few solos etc..... and that's how it sounds to me.

I would rate the Theocracy higher as it has a bit more variety and thought in the song structures.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2016, 10:06:32 AM: The Testament is certainly in the vain if the last two, but it's a strong album all the way around. Consistent. The performances I thought were great. This era is so much better than the 80's. I find it way more interesting.

Brent, I'm surprised you like the Theocracy. I didn't think they would be your thing.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2016, 10:28:05 AM: Brent, was that Helloween shirt from that tour with Anthrax? I think it was an mtv tour?
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2016, 12:12:21 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 29, 2016, 10:28:05 AM
Brent, was that Helloween shirt from that tour with Anthrax? I think it was an mtv tour?

That was in '89. The Keepers Pt 2 tour. It was three bands with Anthrax headlining. And yes it was a Headbangers Ball tour.

The '87 tour, at least through NA was also sponsored by MTV. It was called the Hell On Wheels Tour with Grim Reaper, Armored Saint, and Helloween. They even aired an edited show from Minneapolis.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 29, 2016, 12:36:58 PM: Tim's got it - I believe it was labelled as the MTV Headbangers Ball tour.

I was 13 in 1987 and I don't believe they toured Australia , so I likely got one through a guy I knew back then who imported music and shirts from Japan (there was a Japanese leg of the tour)

Speaking of Tim - Blondie and Cyndi Lauper are co-headlining here in April :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2016, 01:53:36 PM: Wasn't too impressed with the Testament. Loved the riffing but hated the vocals. So yeah, a Testament album.
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Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2016, 03:41:45 PM: Purchased the Testament album yesterday and will have a listen later tonight. Testament are a band I always found solid and impressive but never really wowed me or blew me away to be honest. Skolnick is the main reason why I give them the time of day. I'm expecting the same reaction as you fellas.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2016, 03:52:19 PM: So I was never a Testament fan back in the day. I played them on my show every week, even saw them a couple times. I always considered them a second rate Metallica. I found them one dimensional.

Their last three albums are so much better than their old stuff. I'm am certainly not in love with Chuck Billy's voice. But I can put up with it. I just really love the intensity of the metal on these albums.

Quote from: bl5150 on October 29, 2016, 12:36:58 PM
Speaking of Tim - Blondie and Cyndi Lauper are co-headlining here in April :metal

Call me!

:neverusethis:
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2016, 04:07:48 PM: Apparently I may not have my Helloween tour shirt from '87. Just checked the attic. I lost two trash bags full of tour shirts that disappeared over the years.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 29, 2016, 04:22:06 PM: I listened to both Testament and Theocracy yesterday, back to back.
Testament sounds good, but Alex appears to be MIA, solid but unspectacular.

Theocracy, never been able to get into this band, but now I know why.
It's way too happy for me, plus the lyrics and singing aren't really my thing.
But the music is killer and production is really good.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2016, 04:27:03 PM: After back to back with Testament, pretty much anything would sound happy.

Yeah, the lyrics are heavily Christian and that's fine by me. Matt Smith is really one of my favorite current vocalists.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 29, 2016, 06:29:20 PM: I really didn't notice the lyrics much in the Theocracy - if I had , then it might have been a problem :lol I find most lyrics are not clear enough to be properly understood without reading them and I don't go out of my way to learn them unless I absolutely adore a song.

If the singer has great clarity then the lyrics usually make little difference to my enjoyment of a song unless they are absolutely brilliant or absolutely shite (or overly preachy) I can tolerate most Stryper and listen to plenty of Christian metal so they need to be really over the top.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2016, 07:17:31 PM: The imagery in Theocracy's lyrics are great. Theocracy is almost a perfect band for me. They really have everything I like in a band.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 30, 2016, 03:12:35 AM: As a devout atheist I can listen to Stryper and not worry about the lyrics in the same way I wouldn't have a problem with satanic lyrics. I've tried Theocracy before and dont really have an opinion on them, but I paid zero attention to the lyrics and wouldn't have noticed they were a Christian band if I hadn't read it here.
I agree with Brent in regard to lyrics.

I find Neal Morse a bit too preachy but I can still enjoy his work - I just don't buy into the message.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 30, 2016, 04:23:44 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 30, 2016, 03:12:35 AM
As a devout atheist I can listen to Stryper and not worry about the lyrics in the same way I wouldn't have a problem with satanic lyrics. I've tried Theocracy before and dont really have an opinion on them, but I paid zero attention to the lyrics and wouldn't have noticed they were a Christian band if I hadn't read it here.
I agree with Brent in regard to lyrics.

I find Neal Morse a bit too preachy but I can still enjoy his work - I just don't buy into the message.

Morse is one that does bother me a bit - Gaz said Theocracy was too happy , well I feel like that with a lot of Morse's stuff. When it starts to sound like the world's most talented church band , that's when I begin to zone out.
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2016, 04:49:13 AM: I'm with you on that Morse Brent.

I had a listen to the new Theocracy track on youtube the other day, and I don't know, I guess I just don't see what you guys see in them. It was okay, but nothing that made me want to check with them further. The song Tim sent me in the roulette was cool, but pretty much the same feeling there.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2016, 07:08:30 AM: I am not sure the new Theocracy is as good as As The World Bleeds, or even Mirror Of Souls. But they hit the spot for me. It's Melodic Power Thrash ;D with great vocals.

I have never really gave Morse a listen. I sampled a few tunes once, and I just thought it was so boring with really weak vocals. Not my style. I think watching the Morse band perform would be much more interesting than sitting down and listening, especially watching MP.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2016, 09:09:15 AM: If anyone cares, a cool little interview with Eddie Clark.
https://www.metalexpressradio.com/fast-eddie-clarke-motorheadfastway-interview/
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Post by: Lowdz on October 30, 2016, 11:43:49 AM: Listened to the new Theocracy today. It was ok, a little samey, but better than a lot of the power metal shite out there. Singer was excellent though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 31, 2016, 04:19:50 PM: The new Saxon live blu ray/cd kicks major ass!! :metal

Highly recommended. It's amazing that Saxon just gets better and better with age.
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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2016, 09:10:04 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 31, 2016, 04:19:50 PM
The new Saxon live blu ray/cd kicks major ass!! :metal

Highly recommended. It's amazing that Saxon just gets better and better with age.

Battering Ram is still on solid rotation for me, wonderful album. Will have to get my hands on this DVD I reckon!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 31, 2016, 10:33:24 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2016, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 31, 2016, 04:19:50 PM
The new Saxon live blu ray/cd kicks major ass!! :metal

Highly recommended. It's amazing that Saxon just gets better and better with age.

Battering Ram is still on solid rotation for me, wonderful album. Will have to get my hands on this DVD I reckon!

I predict a Kade Amazon click in the very near future!
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Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2016, 04:27:35 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 31, 2016, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2016, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 31, 2016, 04:19:50 PM
The new Saxon live blu ray/cd kicks major ass!! :metal

Highly recommended. It's amazing that Saxon just gets better and better with age.

Battering Ram is still on solid rotation for me, wonderful album. Will have to get my hands on this DVD I reckon!

I predict a Kade Amazon click in the very near future!

Might be able to get it locally but if now, you got it!! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 01, 2016, 09:20:01 AM: I thought there might have been a chance it was available locally for me, but no luck. Amazon to the rescue!
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2016, 09:24:42 AM: I have to wait until Santa brings me my copy.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 09:39:06 AM: Not to worry............

(https://s4.postimg.org/5xn0yid7h/timxmas.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 05:16:17 PM: Here's something for you shred heads.

In Australia on one of the underground TV channels there is a show called Guitar Gods and Masterpieces - produced by some local guys - very tongue in cheek. The host is called Hack Wanger , so that should give you an idea. I actually used to know one of the guys who produces the show (and a couple of guys in the video actually) - back in the day when I could play. I'm pissed off they didn't call me - they're not to know I have barely touched a guitar in 20 years :D

Anyway - I don't always get time to watch but my Dad does and he always lets me know if there's anything of interest and he brought this to my attention. The show is a bit iffy but they do have good connections in the biz , which are on display with this little song.

They have produced a song to raise money for mens health - more specifically prostate cancer and depression. It's called Don't You Tell Me Not To Play Guitar and the artist is listed as Dorian Chiiwahwah Phallic and the Astral Cosmic Travel Agency :lol

Its a 9 min song which is just a regular song for 2 mins or so and the rest is basically a whole host of the best guitarists around having a few bars each to show their stuff. Lots of mindless shredding and pouting women - what's not to like?

Given that the dude singing has Chiiwahwah in his name I can't believe they didn't make Kirk Hammett their mascot but anyway..........here's the list of players , their bands etc..in order of appearance. You may see someone you like the sound of and can follow up on - lots of big names but also plenty of relative unknowns and Aussie guys.

Tommy Emmanuel - Australia
Brett Garsed – John Farnham, Nelson, T. J. Helmerich -Australia
Joe Satriani – G3, Chickenfoot - USA
Steve Morse – Deep Purple, Dixie Dregs, The Flying Colors– USA
Hack Wanger – Guitar Gods & Masterpieces TV Show - Australia
Mattias Eklundh – Freak Kitchen – Sweden
Chris Cheney –The Living End - Australia
Dave Leslie – Baby Animals- -Australia
Isao – Spark 7 – Japan
Jack Thammerat Solo artist & 2009 Guitar idol winner - Thailand
Manjit Joseph – Heavens Down – India
Rabea Massaad – Dorje - UK
Benjamin Baret - Ne Obliviscaris - France
Adrian Hannan – The Song Store – song producer -Australia
Albare - Jazz Artist – Morocco ,Israel, France, Australia
Chen Lei – Tang Dynasty - China
Syu – Galneryus - Japan
Rob Chapman – Dorje, Chapman Guitars - UK
Mikio Fujioka – Kami Band - Japan
Shinichi Kobayashi, - Jigoku Quartet - Japan
Frank Gambale- Chick Corea - Australia
Irwin Thomas – Southern Sons, John Farnham - Australia
Geoff Achison –Soul Diggers – Australia
Peter Robinson – Electric Mary- Australia
Hedras Ramos - Solo Fusion/metal artist - Guatemala
Ola Englund The Haunted, Feared – Sweden
Eric Calderone - Erock - USA
Motorman Duo - Simon Hosford – Tommy Emmanuel -Australia
Motorman Duo - James Ryan – Men at work. – Australia
Paul Gilbert – Mr. Big, Racer X - USA
Andy James – Wearing Scars - UK
Alex Hutchings - Alex Hutchings Band - UK
Guthrie Govan – The Aristocrats, Asia, Steve Wilson Band - UK

https://youtu.be/LCb012KRV-o
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2016, 05:23:10 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 09:39:06 AM
Not to worry............

Brent, you're a meanie. That is not very nice.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 06:20:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 01, 2016, 05:23:10 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 09:39:06 AM
Not to worry............

Brent, you're a meanie. That is not very nice.

I apologise. :angel: All I wanted to say was that Kip's got a Christmas package for you Tim and it's all yours if you want it .
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2016, 06:24:08 PM: Even if I did want it, there'd be nothing left when Kade was done with it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 06:24:40 PM: Ouch :rollin
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2016, 07:05:07 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 31, 2016, 04:19:50 PM
The new Saxon live blu ray/cd kicks major ass!! :metal

Highly recommended. It's amazing that Saxon just gets better and better with age.

Listening now! :metal
What an amazing version of 20,000 FT.

Devil's Footprint :hefdaddy
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2016, 07:31:09 PM: The verse riff in Wheels Of Steel is the same as Bad Boy Boogie!

Expecting Biff to sing, "It was the seventh day, I was the seventh son." :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 01, 2016, 07:34:38 PM: The thing with Saxon is that there are no weak eras or songs. The new songs are just as good as the classics!
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2016, 07:37:47 PM: Yeah, I was thinking that the last 10 years have been amazing. They dipped a bit in the late 80's and their 90's output isn't as consistent but they have bookended that with the Classic and frankly, to me, the even more impressive modern era.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 07:53:21 PM: I might check out this Saxon - not fussed about live albums usually but I'll take your advice.

Next podcast is in the can , so now I'll take a bit of a break and also madly catch up on 2016 releases before year end. Will post the tracklist from the first 1988 show and a link to " Best of the Rest" show in the next 24 hrs or so. Just need to listen to it and iron out any last minute bugs.
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2016, 07:58:04 PM: Brent, looking forward to it.

Live albums are the way to go for me. I was checking out some of the new Dirschneider live CD earlier. It's basically all Accept tunes. It sounded good. I may get that along with the new Accept live album, which I cannot wait for.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 01, 2016, 09:39:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 01, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
Brent, looking forward to it.

Live albums are the way to go for me. I was checking out some of the new Dirschneider live CD earlier. It's basically all Accept tunes. It sounded good. I may get that along with the new Accept live album, which I cannot wait for.

I find live albums very enjoyable too. Accept, Armored Saint and Primal Fear have live albums coming out in the next few months, so that's very good news. And maybe Symphony X one day will release another
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Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2016, 03:58:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 05:16:17 PM
Here's something for you shred heads.

In Australia on one of the underground TV channels there is a show called Guitar Gods and Masterpieces - produced by some local guys - very tongue in cheek. The host is called Hack Wanger , so that should give you an idea. I actually used to know one of the guys who produces the show (and a couple of guys in the video actually) - back in the day when I could play. I'm pissed off they didn't call me - they're not to know I have barely touched a guitar in 20 years :D

Anyway - I don't always get time to watch but my Dad does and he always lets me know if there's anything of interest and he brought this to my attention. The show is a bit iffy but they do have good connections in the biz , which are on display with this little song.

They have produced a song to raise money for mens health - more specifically prostate cancer and depression. It's called Don't You Tell Me Not To Play Guitar and the artist is listed as Dorian Chiiwahwah Phallic and the Astral Cosmic Travel Agency :lol

Its a 9 min song which is just a regular song for 2 mins or so and the rest is basically a whole host of the best guitarists around having a few bars each to show their stuff. Lots of mindless shredding and pouting women - what's not to like?

Given that the dude singing has Chiiwahwah in his name I can't believe they didn't make Kirk Hammett their mascot but anyway..........here's the list of players , their bands etc..in order of appearance. You may see someone you like the sound of and can follow up on - lots of big names but also plenty of relative unknowns and Aussie guys.

Tommy Emmanuel - Australia
Brett Garsed – John Farnham, Nelson, T. J. Helmerich -Australia
Joe Satriani – G3, Chickenfoot - USA
Steve Morse – Deep Purple, Dixie Dregs, The Flying Colors– USA
Hack Wanger – Guitar Gods & Masterpieces TV Show - Australia
Mattias Eklundh – Freak Kitchen – Sweden
Chris Cheney –The Living End - Australia
Dave Leslie – Baby Animals- -Australia
Isao – Spark 7 – Japan
Jack Thammerat Solo artist & 2009 Guitar idol winner - Thailand
Manjit Joseph – Heavens Down – India
Rabea Massaad – Dorje - UK
Benjamin Baret - Ne Obliviscaris - France
Adrian Hannan – The Song Store – song producer -Australia
Albare - Jazz Artist – Morocco ,Israel, France, Australia
Chen Lei – Tang Dynasty - China
Syu – Galneryus - Japan
Rob Chapman – Dorje, Chapman Guitars - UK
Mikio Fujioka – Kami Band - Japan
Shinichi Kobayashi, - Jigoku Quartet - Japan
Frank Gambale- Chick Corea - Australia
Irwin Thomas – Southern Sons, John Farnham - Australia
Geoff Achison –Soul Diggers – Australia
Peter Robinson – Electric Mary- Australia
Hedras Ramos - Solo Fusion/metal artist - Guatemala
Ola Englund The Haunted, Feared – Sweden
Eric Calderone - Erock - USA
Motorman Duo - Simon Hosford – Tommy Emmanuel -Australia
Motorman Duo - James Ryan – Men at work. – Australia
Paul Gilbert – Mr. Big, Racer X - USA
Andy James – Wearing Scars - UK
Alex Hutchings - Alex Hutchings Band - UK
Guthrie Govan – The Aristocrats, Asia, Steve Wilson Band - UK

https://youtu.be/LCb012KRV-o

I've seen this and enjoyed it. Yeah, get back to playing, mate. I'm nowhere near as good as I was 20 years ago (and I wasn't all that even then) but the enjoyment and relaxation is still there.
It will inspire Ben too.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 04:13:30 AM: Didn't know it had got circulated to your part of the world Paul - it's a pretty obscure show even here.

As far as me playing again........................hmmm, maybe :lol The thought of starting again basically from scratch fills me with dread - I'm a bit of a perfectionist and being a total hack (while almost expecting to able to play as I used to ) will drive me nuts. The lack of any real chance of finding a band to play in - at least one that plays decent music - is another psychological barrier for me. Jamming along to backing tracks by myself only keeps me going for so long.

I think you're right about Ben - teaching him may be the way to rekindle my interest. Having said that , you know kids respond better to teachers that aren't their parents ::)

I did get close a few years ago. Being a bit of a researcher I tracked down every one of the best resources I could find online and elsewhere and bought a fair few things , so I am better equipped than I ever was as a kid to teach myself and Ben for some time without much research. Shit happened and I never managed to keep at it.

Hopefully when things settle down a bit in other areas I may find the time and motivation.
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Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2016, 05:36:17 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 01, 2016, 06:24:08 PM
Even if I did want it, there'd be nothing left when Kade was done with it.

I wouldn't share with you anyway Tim. ;D

I'll have to check out that track Brent, lots of good names there. I've seen a little bit of that show too but always seem to catch it right at the end when it's finishing. Looks interesting enough.

Pick up the guitar Brent, I'll form a band with you in a second. :tup
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Post by: TAC on November 02, 2016, 05:42:09 AM: May have to dust off the drums rotting in my basemant.
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Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2016, 05:46:54 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 02, 2016, 05:42:09 AM
May have to dust off the drums rotting in my basemant.

Do you think if we formed the greatest metal band the world has ever seen from this very forum DT would be obliged to take us on tour? :justjen

This is getting me as excited as that glorious Kip pic!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 05:47:56 AM: You just wanna play my geetars Kade ;D

Well if Kade , Paul and I are on guitar and Tim is on drums that probably does it for an instrumental project. One of the guitarists can surely play bass . Can anyone around here sing?

I reckon we could probably do one of these projects where it's all done by email and turn in something that's better than most of the recent Frontiers releases :lol

Just give me and Tim a few years to regain our chops :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 02, 2016, 05:51:51 AM: Oh, at least a few years.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 02, 2016, 05:53:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 05:47:56 AM
I reckon we could probably do one of these projects where it's all done by email and turn in something that's better than most of the recent Frontiers releases :lol

That's good, don't set the bar too high. :lol
Can I add some cheesy synths to your impending masterpiece?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 05:54:50 AM: That would be great Blob. If you sing and produce too you can be our Blobessandro VanDamio.
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Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2016, 06:00:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 05:47:56 AM
I reckon we could probably do one of these projects where it's all done by email and turn in something that's better than most of the recent Frontiers releases :lol

Fuck I love a good challenge.

I'm ready boys!! :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 02, 2016, 06:03:39 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 05:54:50 AM
That would be great Blob. If you sing and produce too you can be our Blobessandro VanDamio.

I don't sing, but I could definitely produce/mix an album better than Frontiers standard. Van Damio at your service!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 06:05:29 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 02, 2016, 06:03:39 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 05:54:50 AM
That would be great Blob. If you sing and produce too you can be our Blobessandro VanDamio.

I don't sing, but I could definitely produce/mix an album better than Frontiers standard. Van Damio at your service!

And Ben could produce a better music video than Frontiers , so that's covered too ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 02, 2016, 06:09:59 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 06:05:29 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 02, 2016, 06:03:39 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 05:54:50 AM
That would be great Blob. If you sing and produce too you can be our Blobessandro VanDamio.

I don't sing, but I could definitely produce/mix an album better than Frontiers standard. Van Damio at your service!

And Ben could produce a better music video than Frontiers , so that's covered too ;D

Will we have to do one of those music videos where clearly every musician was shot separately in a different location against green screen then slapped into some post apocalyptic setting on a rooftop with flames in the background? Because I can do that too. :lol
Or we could do the super budget lyric video over some clouds and particles.
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Post by: Big Hath on November 02, 2016, 06:28:11 AM: you guys looking for a vocalist?

I'll also play bass if you want to do the dual guitar thing.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 07:32:50 AM: Sure Hath - JJ is our agent , so send him an audition with your version of The Stranger.

I didn't realise you were a singer (or musician) .........have you sung in a band before or just in the shower? :D

One thing I really appreciated after playing in a band was guys/gals who sing and play anything more than basic guitar at the same time. I felt that I was strong in the rhythm department as a guitarist but throw in vocals on top of it and it often threw me a bit if I was playing anything more than basic chord progressions.
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Post by: Big Hath on November 02, 2016, 09:34:21 AM: paid for college/university partially with a vocal scholarship with the stipulation that I sang in the choir and the select chorale group (I majored in business). In high school I was part of a quartet that sang, believe it or not, country music. Four-part harmonies on Garth Brooks, Little Texas, Alabama, etc. So the slightly more rocking side of country I guess?? :lol

That group morphed into a bit of a rock band doing mostly mid to late 90s Christian rock (Third Day, DC Talk, Audio Adrenaline, etc). We needed a bassist, so I took it up. I also play trumpet and dabble on the keys.
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Post by: TAC on November 02, 2016, 09:54:01 AM: Inspired by Brent's Helloween shirt, I went in my attic and grabbed a handful of shirts that I have left. Like I said, I had two giant trash bags that became casualties of life along the way.

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3115_zpsrjh1n4lx.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3115_zpsrjh1n4lx.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2016, 02:28:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 05:54:50 AM
That would be great Blob. If you sing and produce too you can be our Blobessandro VanDamio.

That alone would get us a deal with Frontiers :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 02, 2016, 04:37:22 PM: Tim's house has the most heavy metal attic on earth! How many shirts are up there?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2016, 04:41:40 PM: Unfortunately not much more. I had a Mindcrime tour shirt that I sent to old friend Samsara for his Hall of the Ryche.

At some point I lost trash bags filled with them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 02, 2016, 04:47:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 02, 2016, 04:41:40 PM
Unfortunately not much more. I had a Mindcrime tour shirt that I sent to old friend Samsara for his Hall of the Ryche.

At some point I lost trash bags filled with them.

then its the most heavy metal garbage dump!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2016, 04:53:13 PM: I've had to get rid of many shirts over the years. I bought a shirt at most gigs I went to.
Wish I had them all now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2016, 04:58:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 04:13:30 AM
Didn't know it had got circulated to your part of the world Paul - it's a pretty obscure show even here.

As far as me playing again........................hmmm, maybe :lol The thought of starting again basically from scratch fills me with dread - I'm a bit of a perfectionist and being a total hack (while almost expecting to able to play as I used to ) will drive me nuts. The lack of any real chance of finding a band to play in - at least one that plays decent music - is another psychological barrier for me. Jamming along to backing tracks by myself only keeps me going for so long.

I think you're right about Ben - teaching him may be the way to rekindle my interest. Having said that , you know kids respond better to teachers that aren't their parents ::)

I did get close a few years ago. Being a bit of a researcher I tracked down every one of the best resources I could find online and elsewhere and bought a fair few things , so I am better equipped than I ever was as a kid to teach myself and Ben for some time without much research. Shit happened and I never managed to keep at it.

Hopefully when things settle down a bit in other areas I may find the time and motivation.

Never heard of them, just saw it on YouTube, maybe from a Satch Facebook link?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 02, 2016, 05:00:36 PM: I didn't have 5% of the gigs available that most of you guys had so I kept pretty much everything and also bought lots from bands I was never able to see . Early on in the thread I think I posted a different shirt each day for a couple of months and still had plenty in reserve :lol :-[

These days I generally don't buy shirts at gigs - or tour books.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2016, 06:26:35 PM: At one point, I could've worn a different Maiden shirt everyday for a month. Seriously.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 03, 2016, 02:01:34 AM: I never had that much tour shirts, when I was young I simply didn't have the money to buy a shirt on every concert that I went to, and when I got older and had the money I didn't buy that many because I couldn't wear them on workdays and generally kinda lost interest in tour shirts.

The ones I had were lost since then and wouldn't fit anyway.

But seeing all this great shirts, I kinda miss those days. Maybe I will buy some shirts again in the future.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 03, 2016, 03:14:22 AM: When I'm not at work I live in band shirts and jeans. Just because I'm nearly 50 doesn't mean I can't live in 1987 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2016, 05:23:13 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 02, 2016, 06:26:35 PM
At one point, I could've worn a different Maiden shirt everyday for a month. Seriously.

Impressive.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2016, 05:11:57 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 03, 2016, 03:14:22 AM
When I'm not at work I live in band shirts and jeans. Just because I'm nearly 50 doesn't mean I can't live in 1987 :biggrin:

I try and be a bit more classy than Paul - band shirts and track pants :biggrin:

The new podcast is done - after this we'll try and keep the show to 3-4 hrs :) This should fill in all/most of the gaps in your 1988 faves and hopefully expose most of you to something you like that you haven't heard before.

Here's the link (duped in the OP as usual) : https://yadi.sk/d/mgjVQWkuy4M7g

I can't see another one being done until well after Xmas but 10+ hrs in the last few weeks should hopefully keep me in the good books until then . I'll try and catch up on 2016 now and see if we can make some sort of show of a Best of 2016.

Here's the list from the first show (hopefully I picked the right draft :lol)

60: King Kobra III – Mean Street Machine
59 Adrian Dodz: Adrian Dodz – Somebody Beat Me To The Punch
58 Testament : The New Order – Disciples of the Watch
57 Steeler : Undercover Animal – Undercover Animal
56 Lillian Axe: Lillian Axe – Vision In The Night
55 Jason Becker : Perpetual Burn – Altitudes
54 Tyrant : Ruling The World – Killing The Peace We Fall
53 Smashed Gladys : Social Intercourse – Play Dirty
52 Virgin Steele : Age of Consent – Burning of Rome (Cry for Pompeii)
51 Prophet: Cycle of the Moon – Hands of Time
50 Poison : Open Up and Say Ahh – Nothin But A Good Time
49 Rough : First Cut – This World Is On Fire
48 Kuni : Lookin For Action – Say Goodbye
47 Witness: Witness - Borrowed Time
46 Kix : Blow My Fuse – Don’t Close Your Eyes
45 Helloween : Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt II – March of Time
44 Iron Maiden : Seventh Son of a Seventh Son – The Clairvoyant
43 Hittman: Hittman – Behind The Lines
42 Warrant : DRFSR – DRFSR
41: Craaft : Second Honeymoon – Chance of Your Life
40 :Only Child : Only Child – Just Ask
39 Tattoo: Blood Red – Red Light
38 AC/DC : Blow Up Your Video – Down On The Borderline
37 Angel Dust : To Dust You Will Decay – Into The Dark Past (Ch II)
36 Vinnie Vincent Invasion – All Systems go – Love Kills
35 Vicious Rumors: Digital Dictator – Digital Dictator
34 Judas Priest : Ram It Down – Blood Red Skies
33 Magnum : Wings of Heaven – Wild Swan
32 Riot : Thundersteel – Thundersteel
31 Krokus: Heart Attack – Axx Attack
30: Jeff Healey Band: See The light – See The Light
29 Jimmy Barnes : Barnestorming – Good Times
28 China Sky: China Sky – Some Kind of Miracle
27 Joshua : Intense Defense – Look To The Sky
26 Killer Dwarfs : Big Deal – Tell Me Please
25 Artch : Another Return – Where I Go
24 Kingdom Come : Kingdom Come – Shout It Out
23 Chicago: 19 – Heart In Pieces
22 Zed Yago : pilgrimage – Pioneer of the Storm
21 Fates Warning : No Exit – Anarchy Divine
20 Blue Oyster Cult : Imaginos – The Siege and Investiture of Baron Von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria
19 Megadeth : So Far, So Good..........So What! - Anarchy In The UK
18 Europe : Out of this World – Ready Or Not
17 Dirty Looks: Cool From The Wire – It’s A Bitch
16 Alien : Alien – Brave New Love
15 220 Volt : Eye To Eye – The Harder They Come
14 Van Halen : OU812 – AFU (Naturally Wired)
13 Cinderella : Long Cold Winter- The Last Mile
12 Manowar : Kings of Metal – Hail and Kill
11 House of Lords: House of Lords – Pleasure Palace
10 Winger : Winger – Madelaine
9 David Lee Roth : Skyscraper- Knucklebones
8 : Survivor:Too Hot To Sleep- Too Hot To Sleep
7 Bon Jovi : New Jersey – Wild Is The Wind
6 Ozzy Osbourne : No Rest For The Wicked – Breaking All The Rules
5: Dare: Out Of The Silence – Under The Sun
4 Yngwie Malmsteen : Odyssey – Deja Vu
3:Crimson Glory : Transcendence- Lonely
2: Dokken : Beast From The East – Unchain The Night
1: Queensryche : Operation: Mindcrime – Operation: Mindcrime
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2016, 06:25:43 PM: Downloading now, Brent! Can't wait to hear it.

2016 has been a great year!

New Hammerfall tomorrow!!

:neverusethis:

No seriously, it should be in my mailbox when I get home!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2016, 06:27:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 03, 2016, 06:25:43 PM
Downloading now, Brent! Can't wait to hear it.

2016 has been a great year!

New Hammerfall tomorrow!!

:neverusethis:

No seriously, it should be in my mailbox when I get home!

:D

The Hammerfall is alright ........very predictable , but some are saying it's their best in a while. I can't comment on that as I haven't followed them in recent times. Checked this one out though and , while I didn't press Skip , I wasn't itching to hear it again either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2016, 06:47:12 PM: The last album I really liked from them was Threshold.
I kept hoping that with each member change, it would spark something fresh. They seem to be going backwards.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2016, 07:54:23 PM: Starting on the podcast now, and I still can't believe Metallica didn't even make the Top 60. I mean, no offence Brent. I do love you, but there was some serious shite in the first '88 podcast. While you eloquently state your reasons against it, I just can't accept that there are more good songs on Winger than there are on Justice. I mean, I heard that first Winger album and I puked my guts out, while Justice became the soundtrack to about a year of my life. And while the first '88 podcast came across as intensely personal, which I so totally respect, there is no way that there were 60 better albums released in the hard rock category in 1988 than Justice.

Very humbly submitted. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2016, 08:01:26 PM: Fair enough Tim - we all love things that other regulars around here consider shite and Winger is a good example of something that's quite divisive. I very generously gave your Blondie submission to my roulette a 6/10 , so ;D

There are definitely a percentage of Metallica fans (a small percentage admittedly) who agree with me on AJFA . I just don't see at it as even in the same class as MoP , TBA or even RTL and IMHO it contains 2 or 3 poor songs which pretty much automatically rules if out of any best list for me.

(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ab/ab627a9719497f8f50d30ae52dee1b5de2c6da4137fedf0bb59369ad03327ef4.jpg) :)

I genuinely find it interesting how much those of us in this thread have in common with our taste while at the same time being so diametrically opposed at times.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2016, 08:06:02 PM: Yeah, but Blondie is awesome! :lol

And I even let you assholes got to compete in a Winger Round!! What could be better than that??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2016, 08:07:46 PM: Uh oh - the TAC roulette is back on :lol Us assholes submitted some cool stuff in that round :hat
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2016, 08:36:08 PM: Brent, could've sworn Paint It Black was Yngwie. Great guitars on the next track too.

Great Danzig tune. Bulletboys suck though! :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2016, 10:36:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 03, 2016, 08:36:08 PM
Brent, could've sworn Paint It Black was Yngwie. Great guitars on the next track too.

Great Danzig tune. Bulletboys suck though! :)

I wouldn't argue about Bulletboys - their debut was decent but they released some rubbish for sure. Marq Torien is a first division tool too :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2016, 05:40:39 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 03, 2016, 07:54:23 PM
I just can't accept that there are more good songs on Winger than there are on Justice.

(https://esq.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/05/320x504/54ccb95eb42bb_-_esq-14-kip-winger-1990-hair-0612-mdn.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 04, 2016, 06:26:06 AM: :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 04, 2016, 08:01:12 AM: I'm with brent on AJFA. It won't even be a good album when they get around to finishing it. One is a good song but the rest is bloated and just not memorable. I'll stick with the first Winger even if it's their weakest..

Looking forward to the podcast
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 04, 2016, 11:42:33 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 04, 2016, 05:40:39 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 03, 2016, 07:54:23 PM
I just can't accept that there are more good songs on Winger than there are on Justice.

(https://esq.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/05/320x504/54ccb95eb42bb_-_esq-14-kip-winger-1990-hair-0612-mdn.jpg)

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 04, 2016, 12:03:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 03, 2016, 08:36:08 PM
Brent, could've sworn Paint It Black was Yngwie. Great guitars on the next track too.

Great Danzig tune. Bulletboys suck though! :)

Guy Mann Dude?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on November 04, 2016, 12:08:52 PM: part 1 was another highly rated podcast

here are the songs I didn't already know that rated 8.5 or higher

9.0
Virgin Steele -The Burning of Rome (Cry for Pompeii)
Judas Priest - Blood Red Skies
Artch - Where I Go
Fates Warning - Anarchy Divine
David Lee Roth - Knucklebones

8.5
King Kobra - Mean Street Machine
Steeler - Undercover Animal
Witness - Borrowed Time
Hittman - Behind The Lines
Craaft - Chance of Your Life
AC/DC - Down on the Borderline
Vicious Rumors - Digital Dictator
Riot - Thundersteel
Krokus - Axx Attack
China Sky - Some Kind of Miracle
Joshua - Look to the Sky
Zed Yago - Pioneer of the Storm
Europe - Ready or Not
Alien - Brave New Love
Cinderella - The Last Mile
Survivor - Too Hot To Sleep
Ozzy Osbourne - Breakin' All The Rules
Dokken - Unchain the Night
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on November 04, 2016, 02:58:50 PM: on to part 2

really enjoyed that Paint it Black cover

The S.A.D.O. song has a really great guitar sound

Didn't really care for that Battle Bratt, but the solo saved it a bit

Feel like I'm going to church. Are you passing out hymnals to sing along? Just kidding, I think it's great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 04, 2016, 03:35:58 PM: I agree with Hath on those sentiments.

The Helstar tune was great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2016, 04:22:32 PM: Downloaded and will crack in probably not til tomorrow night.

Quote from: Big Hath on November 04, 2016, 12:08:52 PM
9.0
Virgin Steele -The Burning of Rome (Cry for Pompeii)

This song is just bloody brilliant. Shame VS were so hit and miss.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on November 04, 2016, 07:25:07 PM: yeah, with a few more listens I can see it moving up to a 9.5. Possibly the #1 song of that podcast.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2016, 05:22:17 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2016, 08:01:12 AM
I'm with brent on AJFA. It won't even be a good album when they get around to finishing it. One is a good song but the rest is bloated and just not memorable. I'll stick with the first Winger even if it's their weakest..

:hifive:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2016, 05:26:03 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2016, 08:01:12 AM
I'm with brent on AJFA. It won't even be a good album when they get around to finishing it. One is a good song but the rest is bloated and just not memorable. I'll stick with the first Winger even if it's their weakest..

Every single thing about this is wrong. :lol (Except for One being good, although it's a lot better than just "good")
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2016, 05:31:00 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2016, 05:26:03 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2016, 08:01:12 AM
even if it's their weakest..

Every single thing about this is wrong. :lol

You're right - In The Heart of the Young (or IV) is generally considered their weakest :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2016, 05:37:43 AM: Yeah, I don't like In the Heart of the Young at all. I think there might have been one song I half liked on IV.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 05, 2016, 05:59:34 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2016, 05:37:43 AM
Yeah, I don't like In the Heart of the Young at all. I think there might have been one song I half liked on IV.

For me, it's just behind Pull. Yeah, thinking about it IV is probably weaker. I forgot it existed tbh :biggrin:

I liked the first one well enough at the time (some tracks I don't like at all), but I hardly ever play it now.

And I wanted to like AJFA, thought I'd like it too from what everyone said about it. I just don't. The lack of bass guitar makes it sound unfinished and just wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lepprador on November 05, 2016, 09:53:50 AM: I liked the first Winger, but became a fan with In The Heart Of The Young. The title track and Rainbow In The Rose are just incredible songs. I always thought of evolution chains. And in my perception it was Def Leppard > Winger > Dream Theater. Def Leppard indicated it with tracks like Die Hard The Hunter and Gods Of War. Winger expanded on it. Again listen to the insane drumming from Rod Morgenstein on Rainbow In The Rose. And finally DT brought together hair metal and prog. I can understand, if your first contact with Winger was 17 (ugh), it wasn't what a Metallica or Slayer fan rated cool, but I'm convinced that the musical abilities are on the same level with Dream Theater. So don't let your suppressed homosexuality keep you from enjoying one of the best bands on earth.

Quick question guys: Karma vs Better Days Comin' ?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2016, 10:50:48 AM: What the hell just happened to this thread??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 05, 2016, 03:28:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2016, 10:50:48 AM
What the hell just happened to this thread??

A Nightmare on TAC street!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 05, 2016, 03:39:10 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 05, 2016, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2016, 10:50:48 AM
What the hell just happened to this thread??

A Nightmare on TAC street!

The natural order of things has been restored :biggrin:

But Leprador, Wingers musicianship up there with DT? No. Rod. Morganstein is a monster drummer though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2016, 03:44:22 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 05, 2016, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2016, 10:50:48 AM
What the hell just happened to this thread??

A Nightmare on TAC street!
:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2016, 03:53:00 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/twisted-sister-pro-shot-footage-of-you-can-t-stop-rock-n-roll-from-final-us-show-on-40-and-fuck-it-world-tour-posted

:metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2016, 04:11:19 PM: Putting this on my Christmas list!

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2016%20II/IronMaidenSweater.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 05, 2016, 06:08:22 PM: That's awesome lol

These ugly Christmas sweaters are taking over the world!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2016, 06:49:21 PM: Listening to the podcast...

I loved the Lita/Ozzy track back in the day. I actually heard it on the radio a few weeks ago. Still holds up.

Wow, Brent, that Ratt tune sucked. I was way beyond them by '88, but man, how bad was that?!

A little over an hour in and I'm enjoying this immensely. So many vivid memories listening to music back then, even if some of these two podcasts are reminding me of how bad some of it actually was! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2016, 09:00:55 PM: Good to hear Tim.

And that post from Lepprador has actually impacted my day. A few times I have chuckled out loud as my mind wandered back to the look Tim may have on his face as he found himself accused of using his stated dislike of Winger to cover up his true sexuality. :rollin

And definitely Karma > Better Days Comin for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2016, 09:42:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 05, 2016, 09:00:55 PM
And definitely Karma > Better Days Comin for me.

They're about equal for me. I love a couple of songs from both, haven't been too interested in the rest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2016, 03:26:20 AM: They are both pretty equal for me too, but I think I might just have to give Better Day's Comin' the edge, I'd play that one more.

Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2016, 10:50:48 AM
What the hell just happened to this thread??

It just got fucking sexier.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2016, 03:44:04 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2016, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 05, 2016, 09:00:55 PM
And definitely Karma > Better Days Comin for me.

They're about equal for me. I love a couple of songs from both, haven't been too interested in the rest.

I really liked Better Days Comin so I'd give it the edge over Karma.
You Aussie guys, have you heard the new Kings of the Sun? Any good?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2016, 03:49:27 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2016, 03:44:04 AM
You Aussie guys, have you heard the new Kings of the Sun? Any good?

Never even heard of the band.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2016, 03:54:51 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2016, 03:49:27 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2016, 03:44:04 AM
You Aussie guys, have you heard the new Kings of the Sun? Any good?

Never even heard of the band.

Wow Kade........I suppose they were a bit before your time but when I was growing up they were reasonably big - not as big as The Choirboys but not far off....for a little while at least. Serpentine was all over the radio as a single.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naGCRjHt0

Almost 30 years later with only one original member (drummer who is now on lead vocals) they're really just milking the name.

Here is a preview of the new album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naGCRjHt0

IMHO the original front man WAS the band and without him it's not the same. I saw them supporting Sammy Hagar many years ago I think?

I am surprised Paul knew of them but yeah.........not really interested myself.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 06, 2016, 03:57:57 AM: Never heard of 'em either. Checked out one of the new songs after some difficulty getting the internet to acknowledge their existence either, and it sounded pretty rough.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2016, 04:07:26 AM: Listening now, paint it black cover obviously isn't the guy Mann dude version and that was '89. Didn't catch who it was and don't want to risk being Rick rolled again :biggrin:.
SADO are clearly influenced by another German band... but enjoyable. Have heard of them but never heard them.
One would be such an awesome track with a better production.
LA guns weren't a favourite of mine but they had some decent tracks, this being one of them.
Hated Danzig. What a dickhead. Reminds me off the Doors and I can't stand them.
I like the first bulletboys album but they lost the plot after it. Agree that there's not enough good songs on it to be a classic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2016, 04:10:36 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2016, 04:07:26 AM

Hated Danzig. What a dickhead. .

Paul meets Danzig :lol

(https://media.giphy.com/media/2XmrLw331u1cOKFFfA4/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2016, 04:11:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 06, 2016, 03:54:51 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2016, 03:49:27 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2016, 03:44:04 AM
You Aussie guys, have you heard the new Kings of the Sun? Any good?

Never even heard of the band.

Wow Kade........I suppose they were a bit before your time but when I was growing up they were reasonably big - not as big as The Choirboys but not far off....for a little while at least. Serpentine was all over the radio as a single.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naGCRjHt0

I'm pretty okay with my Aussie 80's pub rock, but that song doesn't ring a bell at all, never heard it haha. Not my thing though.

An hour into the podcast and nothing really exciting me that much. I'm not a Danzig fan, but I love that tune. That Ozzy/Lita song is great too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2016, 04:22:31 AM: Just listening to Batio's new album .

My detailed review - "don't bother" :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2016, 04:23:23 AM: Not got to the Ozzy/lita track but I've never liked it.
And yes, Danzig was on my to punch list :biggrin: would be pleased to land that one :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2016, 04:26:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 06, 2016, 04:22:31 AM
Just listening to Batio's new album .

My detailed review - "don't bother" :D

My love of shred is well documented but I've never really bothered with Batio. He can shred but there's nothing deeper going on, no compositional skill and sheer speed for the sake of it gets old very fast. There, I said it. I've become one of those guys :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2016, 04:27:14 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2016, 04:26:01 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 06, 2016, 04:22:31 AM
Just listening to Batio's new album .

My detailed review - "don't bother" :D

My love of shred is well documented but I've never really bothered with Batio. He can shred but there's nothing deeper going on, no compositional skill and sheer speed for the sake of it gets old very fast. There, I said it. I've become one of those guys :biggrin:

This one actually has a female vocalist on all tracks - the songs are pretty shit , she is pretty shit and the album is pretty shit. Hope you appreciate the extra detail ;D

The solos are certainly the highlight but that's not saying much. He is really capable of amazing things and occasionally nails it - just nowhere near often enough.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2016, 11:42:00 AM: I actually saw Kings Of The Sun. They opened for Bruce's Tattooed Millionaire tour. But I'd be lying my ass off if I said I remember anything
about them.

Quote from: bl5150 on November 05, 2016, 09:00:55 PM
And that post from Lepprador has actually impacted my day.

Yeah, mine too. I have officially asked Bosk to ban him!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2016, 01:34:11 PM: Besides a handful of shirts, I also still have a few tour programs. Again, many seemed to have disappeared, but I still have a few. I'll post pics of them over the next few weeks.

For Brent, I'll start with this. Bought at the Providence Civic Center on March 18, 1984. This one continues to fold out into a huge poster.

Front & back cover:

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3127_zpshc4fo5pp.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3127_zpshc4fo5pp.jpg.html)

..which folds out to this:

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3124_zpshgkhbxco.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3124_zpshgkhbxco.jpg.html)

...which folds out to this:

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3125_zpsjtiq9qsq.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3125_zpsjtiq9qsq.jpg.html)

...which ultimately folds out to this!

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3126_zpsqazgvdjo.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3126_zpsqazgvdjo.jpg.html)

And Brent, if you'd like to add this to your VH collection, PM me. You probably already have one!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 06, 2016, 01:37:33 PM: I was too young when the original VH was taking the world by storm, but they just seem like they were the coolest guys on planet earth during the first DLR run.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2016, 01:42:51 PM: They were an exciting band, and damn were they really good. Even though they had short albums with some filler, they could really rip it up. They were so huge. I was 15 1/2 when I attended that show. It was really amazing. It's a shame that there has never been a proper Live DVD release from the old days. How many bands have released their US Festival show?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 06, 2016, 01:48:35 PM: I've always wondered about a live cd/dvd from the original band. I've watched lots of youtube footage, and they just tear it up. DLR was just an over the top excellent front man. How could there not be a show that they could fix up and give a proper release for. The US festival would a good one to release, I'm sure it would have been a great show.

That live album from a couple of years ago from Tokyo just doesn't represent the band good enough IMO. Not at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2016, 12:27:28 AM: You guys are tempting me to try and find my VH stash - I've probably posted half of it in the early days of this thread.

Thanks for your kind offer Tim - will PM you. Do you do in-person home delivery? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2016, 01:54:58 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 06, 2016, 01:48:35 PM
I've always wondered about a live cd/dvd from the original band. I've watched lots of youtube footage, and they just tear it up. DLR was just an over the top excellent front man. How could there not be a show that they could fix up and give a proper release for. The US festival would a good one to release, I'm sure it would have been a great show.

That live album from a couple of years ago from Tokyo just doesn't represent the band good enough IMO. Not at all.

There was some amazing footage of VH in 1979 on Youtube a year or two back - I didn't bother to try and capture it and a few days later the guy cracked the shits and removed it >:( DLR was "On Fire" in those days - not doing his "I forgot the fuckin words" schtick and was just nailing everything.

US Festival show is here in so-so quality - https://youtu.be/frwlZswvS5I - the guys were that off their face that I don't believe they wanted it released.

Possibly the best classic VH footage available is the few songs from the Oakland show on the Fair Warning tour. There is debate about whether they have the rest of that show stashed somewhere - the band says they don't but it's always been a topic of discussion.

Oakland : so This Is Love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DU11hyBEys
Oakland: Hear About It Later https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLGEYPOhK6w
Oakland : Unchained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn8APTMyKsg

Then there's the 1979 Fresno footage (again 3 songs) - the Dance The Night Away footage was the song vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3fqJq6piYQ

That's about it for pro quality footage .

This is the Fresno On Fire footage I found , but in awful quality. It was amazing in the almost pro quality I saw it in :'( - you still can tell how much better he was here than in the later tours though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRUMeHw4Gz4
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2016, 03:20:35 AM: Australia is on my Bucket List Brent!

I think as far as VH goes, there are a couple decent shows floating around. Baltimore 82 and Caracas 83 I think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2016, 12:40:19 PM: I saw VH at the 1984 Monsters of Rock festival at Castle Donington. I wasn't a huge fan at the time and remember they did a drum solo after the second song. Totally killed the vibe, as did all the other solo spots.

Dave was funny and his sword solo was cool, but towards the end of a long day those solo spots were too much. The world does not need a Michael Anthony bass solo.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on November 07, 2016, 02:08:32 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 04, 2016, 02:58:50 PM
Feel like I'm going to church. Are you passing out hymnals to sing along? Just kidding, I think it's great.

:lol I wrote this after the Petra song and BEFORE Neon Cross and Idle Cure were played. :lol

PK Mitchell is a pretty talented guy. Brent, it might be a bit "churchy" for you, but have you checked out his renditions of old church hymns? All Hail The Power is the title of one version of that album.

Big fan of those Idle Cure albums too.

There's some great guitar work on that VXN track, but oh man those backing vocals!! These guys needed a different producer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 07, 2016, 03:03:44 PM: Yeah Brent I would say that Oakland footage is the best for early VH. That would be a great show to release; how could there not be a full show somewhere from it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2016, 03:19:45 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 07, 2016, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on November 04, 2016, 02:58:50 PM
Feel like I'm going to church. Are you passing out hymnals to sing along? Just kidding, I think it's great.

:lol I wrote this after the Petra song and BEFORE Neon Cross and Idle Cure were played. :lol

PK Mitchell is a pretty talented guy. Brent, it might be a bit "churchy" for you, but have you checked out his renditions of old church hymns? All Hail The Power is the title of one version of that album.

Big fan of those Idle Cure albums too.

There's some great guitar work on that VXN track, but oh man those backing vocals!! These guys needed a different producer.

As is obvious I don't let the fact that I am not religious dissuade me from listening to Christian music if it's not over the top in terms of preaching to/looking down on those outside the Christian faith.

I will check out PK Mitchell Hath - the only PK I grew up with was the chewy. :D

VXN was self released /self produced so really just a glorified demo - here's the cassette cover

(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/5/0/0/250058.jpg)

In that context I think it's pretty good and yeah - really nice aggressive yet restrained guitar solo. Some guitar diehards may actually know the guitarist - Jeff Kollman who has some solo albums and was in a band called Edwin Dare.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2016, 03:27:09 PM: I only know Jeff Kollman from the second Mogg/Way album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2016, 03:32:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 07, 2016, 03:27:09 PM
I only know Jeff Kollman from the second Mogg/Way album.

Yeah - he's also done a bit with Glenn Hughes and currently in Payne's version of Asia - well respected musician. I'm not huge into any current form of Asia ( was never a huge fan period) but I do find Payne's posturing quite hilarious.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on November 08, 2016, 01:26:18 PM: just finished 1988 part 2

I thought the Veto, Sword, and Vice tracks were really good. That Vice cover!!

Didn't really care for Sacred Warrior's vocals. And what was up with all the bass drum kicks all over the place? Seems like he went a little overboard.

The other Tarot song you played on an earlier podcast was Descendants Of Power.

Aside from the stupid chorus, I thought Beneath Da' Coconuts was pretty good.

Unless I'm mistaken, Queen of the Reich was the first repeated song on the podcast.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2016, 01:37:10 PM: I haven't had the chance to get very far yet on the podcast, maybe only 2 hours in so far. Good to see Sacred Warrior included though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2016, 03:04:12 PM: New Enbound next week. Didn't know there was one on its way. I loved the first album, and in fact was just listening to it a couple of days ago.

https://bravewords.com/news/swedens-enbound-to-release-the-blackened-heart-album-next-week-features-guest-appearances-from-kamelot-symphony-x-members-give-me-light-music-video-streaming
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 08, 2016, 03:04:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 08, 2016, 03:04:12 PM
New Enbound next week. Didn't know there was one on its way. I loved the first album, and in fact was just listening to it a couple of days ago.

https://bravewords.com/news/swedens-enbound-to-release-the-blackened-heart-album-next-week-features-guest-appearances-from-kamelot-symphony-x-members-give-me-light-music-video-streaming

I have heard one track from this and it sounds like a step up from the debut IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2016, 03:05:58 PM: The debut was just one of those little under the radar albums that hit a sweet spot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 08, 2016, 03:07:46 PM: Gold spray paint cans are likely in short supply at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2016, 03:09:58 PM: :facepalm:

You know, the reason I never listened to Crimson Glory back in the day was precisely that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 08, 2016, 03:42:48 PM: I enjoyed the VXN track. Never heard that before. YouTube d the album and thought it was pretty good. Guitar playing was excellent and not your normal note choices. Nice one
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2016, 05:18:23 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/invisible-mirror-announce-new-album-on-the-edge-of-tomorrow-life-of-a-stranger-lyric-video-streaming

Just saw this and I sampled the streaming track. I liked it enough to check this album out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2016, 04:40:33 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 08, 2016, 03:05:58 PM
The debut was just one of those little under the radar albums that hit a sweet spot.

Pretty sure it was your recommendation Tim that made me pick up the first album and it's pretty good. Nothing outstanding, but a good listen. This new song is decent enough for me to check this new one out too. Lars is an amazing singer.

Quote from: TAC on November 08, 2016, 03:09:58 PM
:facepalm:

You know, the reason I never listened to Crimson Glory back in the day was precisely that.

Seems like a silly reason not to listen to a band, your loss bro, they are amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2016, 06:25:02 AM: Yeah, but Kade, what you have to remember was that there were no way ways to sample bands. None of my friends had their stuff and they weren't played on the radio. The only option was to actually blind buy the album. And frankly Crimson Glory looked ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 09, 2016, 01:46:08 PM: When it was released, was there many reviews in Hit Parader or other metal magazines for Crimson Glory? I can't imagine they would have gotten many poor reviews for the music itself, and I'm sure the Queensryche comparisons were already present.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2016, 01:47:52 PM: Hey check this out. I've posted this pic before when describing Jon Oliva so when I went to post it in another thread, I Google Imaged it, and check out what site came up!!

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3128_zpstacbokej.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3128_zpstacbokej.jpg.html)

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 09, 2016, 01:49:11 PM: Round 11 coming up!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2016, 02:12:08 PM: So today's classic tour program is bought at the Providence Civic Center on 6-9-84.
Scorpions-Love At First Sting Tour

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3129_zpsocy297a5.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3129_zpsocy297a5.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3130_zpsuvim3usw.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3130_zpsuvim3usw.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3131_zpsesj3y51j.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3131_zpsesj3y51j.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3132_zpsk2fzhakm.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3132_zpsk2fzhakm.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3133_zpsm3h0z40m.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3133_zpsm3h0z40m.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3134_zpsijisibqo.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3134_zpsijisibqo.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3135_zps9pkfbtr1.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3135_zps9pkfbtr1.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3136_zpsncouglkm.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3136_zpsncouglkm.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3137_zpsyagyy1ki.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3137_zpsyagyy1ki.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3138_zpsyflxjxvp.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3138_zpsyflxjxvp.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3139_zpsmkt20jtt.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3139_zpsmkt20jtt.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3140_zpsivimelen.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3140_zpsivimelen.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3141_zpsgyob3gjl.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3141_zpsgyob3gjl.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3142_zpsfssomlis.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3142_zpsfssomlis.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3143_zpszgkuem6t.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3143_zpszgkuem6t.jpg.html)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3144_zpse1n8ayjc.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3144_zpse1n8ayjc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 09, 2016, 02:17:17 PM: That's in my basement Tim! :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2016, 02:24:33 PM: Nice Tim . You guys in the US probably had more cool gigs to go to each year than I've had in my life , but even in saying that I don't have a huge number of tour books. Posters the same - aside from Van Halen where I could fill a museum with old posters (mostly mint). I'm struggling to think of many tour books I have outside of Van Halen (mostly from gigs I didn't attend) and KISS. I have a DT Images and Words Japan Tour tourbook somewhere.

These days many of the bands don't even have them , but they are fantastic records to look back on.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2016, 02:54:59 PM: I only have a handful. I bought a ton of shirts though. The only thing about buying programs is that you had to babysit it through the show, and often times we were trying to get up front to take a few pictures. At least with a shirt, I could stuff it in my pants, or put it on.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2016, 03:00:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 09, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
At least with a shirt, I could stuff it in my pants

So that's your secret. :eyebrows:

Come to think of it yeah - half the time I couldn't be bothered hanging on to a book all night either. With the limited funds I had I generally bought a shirt , although I don't bother with them either these days. 200 black t-shirts is probably sufficient :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2016, 03:01:50 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 09, 2016, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 09, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
At least with a shirt, I could stuff it in my pants

So that's your secret. :eyebrows:

Had to buy the long sleeves!
:yarr
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 09, 2016, 03:02:08 PM: Never felt the need to buy a program.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 09, 2016, 03:06:45 PM: I bought too many programs over the decades.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2016, 03:13:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 09, 2016, 03:01:50 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 09, 2016, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 09, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
At least with a shirt, I could stuff it in my pants

So that's your secret. :eyebrows:

Had to buy the long sleeves!
:yarr

I will choose to read that the way that you meant it ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2016, 06:57:18 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 09, 2016, 01:46:08 PM
When it was released, was there many reviews in Hit Parader or other metal magazines for Crimson Glory? I can't imagine they would have gotten many poor reviews for the music itself, and I'm sure the Queensryche comparisons were already present.

I honestly don't ever remember reading anything that screamed to me that I must check out this band. I definitely remember seeing pics of the band, but not the text that accompanied them.

Helloween's Keepers Pt.1 was a blind buy after reading an article about the band and the music. So I wasn't averse to doing it. In fact I blind bought plenty of albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2016, 07:07:21 PM: I don't recall much about Crimson Glory in the mags either . I can barely remember those school dayz , but I did spend plenty of time browsing/buying mags - I know that much. I think I first came across Crimson Glory on that one famous metal radio show I often talk about..........the only one I knew of in Australia So I was exposed to their music via radio long before I even knew about the image.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2016, 07:17:45 PM: There was a midnight metal show on a Providence radio station that debuted in 1983. It was on this show that I first heard Metallica, Talas, Queensryche, and more. In fact after the original host, Doug Fry, moved on (to Philly I believe), he was replaced on the show by a guy that went by Dr. Metal. You can hear him on most boots out of Providence (including mine) introducing many bands.
Two things about Dr. Metal. He was thanked in the liner notes to I&W, and was also killed in the Station night club fire.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 09, 2016, 07:44:39 PM: In the early 2000's, I bought lots of albums just based on the album cover and if it was in the metal section. A lot of them ended up being poor purchases.

But some were major winners, a few that come to mind are Crimson Glory- Trancendence, Sword- Metalized, Fifth Angel- s/t, Armored Saint- March of the Saint, Lethal- Programmed
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 05:00:35 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 09, 2016, 06:25:02 AM
Yeah, but Kade, what you have to remember was that there were no way ways to sample bands. None of my friends had their stuff and they weren't played on the radio. The only option was to actually blind buy the album. And frankly Crimson Glory looked ridiculous.

Yeah, that's fair enough man.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2016, 11:00:22 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 05:00:35 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 09, 2016, 06:25:02 AM
Yeah, but Kade, what you have to remember was that there were no way ways to sample bands. None of my friends had their stuff and they weren't played on the radio. The only option was to actually blind buy the album. And frankly Crimson Glory looked ridiculous.

Yeah, that's fair enough man.

But the Transcendence cover was so cool. That's what drew me in before I saw the masks.
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 01:09:56 PM: I've listened to the first four songs from the Hammerfall, and I just keep thinking, 'what's the point?' It's so generic and recycled it's not funny.
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Post by: TAC on November 10, 2016, 01:16:27 PM: The fourth song is pretty good though. Yeah, a bit disappointing. But only in that I was hoping with the significant lineup changes, it would've breathed new life into them. And Oscar. WTF is up with the blonde hair?
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Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2016, 02:56:12 PM: Just played a couple of newbies. The Extreme Pornograffitti live bluray is excellent, and I really enjoyed the Graham Bonnet band The Book album. The rerecords of his "hits" (well, some were :biggrin:) are well done. Very surprised by this one.
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Post by: TAC on November 10, 2016, 05:59:20 PM: So I'm slowly making my way through the latest podcast.

The Screamer tune was awesome, as was the Sanctuary.

Man the Tindrum (??) tune with the chick singer and the guy from TNT was such a sign of the times. Not that it was a great song, but it was textbook late 80's. And you can tell that the guitarist worshipped at the altar of Michael Schenker.

The VXN had some great vocals and guitar playing.

In the very early days of MTV, they played Vendetta quite a bit. I don't remember the song though.

After Patience, I thought Brent fell asleep at the controls and Rocket Queen was starting. That was the Howe tune, which was awesome. Can't remember if Brent said Greg or Steve.

While I was listening to Time Ain't Running Out, I definitely remembered it, but for the life of me, I couldn't place it. The thing is, when I put the Frehley's Comet albums on my iPod, I skipped the Todd tracks. Except for Loser In The Fight. Sucky song then,. Still sucks.

And speaking of sucking. Brent, I'm sorry, but that Night Ranger song blew chunks. Big ones. I mean, WINGER WAS BETTER THAN THAT!!!!!! Yes I said that. It was that bad. In the 20+hours of DTF podcasts, that might be the single worst song you've played. By far!

Did I mention how freaking awesome the Screamer tune was!! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 06:05:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2016, 05:59:20 PM
WINGER WAS BETTER THAN THAT!!!!!!

That could be said about most bands. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 10, 2016, 06:13:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 06:05:07 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2016, 05:59:20 PM
WINGER WAS BETTER THAN THAT!!!!!!

That could be said about most bands. :tup

:lol
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Post by: TAC on November 10, 2016, 06:17:05 PM: :lol

(https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/840/282/b74.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2016, 06:20:39 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 06:05:07 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2016, 05:59:20 PM
WINGER WAS BETTER THAN THAT!!!!!!

That could be said about most bands. :tup

:tup

As far as the Night Ranger goes I thought that album (Man In Motion) was really missing something with the songwriting and rated it high 70's...............seems to be a well rated album though by many. While I did say that the ballad was my favourite on the album (I don't think it's thaaaaaat bad) , in the end that's not saying much. Most of the other songs I find poorly written and that wasn't the case with their early albums. in the end the only Night Ranger albums that I really rate are Dawn patrol, Midnight Madness and maybe Feeding Off The Mojo ("maybe" because many don't consider it a real NR album)
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Post by: TAC on November 10, 2016, 06:25:49 PM: Nah, it's cool Brent. It made an impact on you back then, and that's what it's about.
But my word. There's no way the Chicago tune could've been worse.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 11, 2016, 10:56:52 AM: The RATT album was a poor one but I don't mind that song, there's not much better on RFTS.

Not got to the Night Ranger yet but I was never a big fan beyond the hits. Same with Cheap Trick but I love The Flame.

Black n Blue were an excellent band but this album wasn't as strong as the previous two. It was ok though. You played a great track though. Fiiiiiirrrrrrre

I enjoyed the Loudness track. Hadn't heard that before. I've got thunder in the east and lightning strikes, plus Soldier of Fortune.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 11, 2016, 11:08:18 AM: I liked that Drive track, never heard of them. Will sample some more on YT and might be purchase worthy.

Brighton Rock were a good band. Vixen were ok too but I have hard time with female guitarists. It's just not right. Saw them supporting someone back in the day. Edit - quick check of google says it was Deep Purple.

Free Like An Eagle is the only track I've heard by Talk of the Town. what's the rest of the album like? I guess a bit patchy as it didn't make the first podcast.

Ah, up to the Night Ranger. It's ok, not their best but certainly not the worst thing ever as TAC says, but I bet it was too soft for Ben! Compared to the majority of Frontiers' recent stuff it's a masterpiece.

Screamer - agree with Brent on the singer. I liked it but wouldn't want to listen to a full album of that shrieking. Very pitchy.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 11, 2016, 11:28:18 AM: I bought the Greg Howe album but didn't rate it. Too jazzy for me at the time as I was into the neo classical thing. I love it now. Great player.
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Post by: TAC on November 11, 2016, 01:10:27 PM: I don't remember The Flame being that bad. It has not aged well.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2016, 03:49:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 11, 2016, 01:10:27 PM
I don't remember The Flame being that bad. It has not aged well.

I'm with Brent, I always liked that song.
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Post by: TAC on November 11, 2016, 03:51:29 PM: I don't remember minding it when it came out. Maybe it just felt out of place on a DTF Podcast. I just don't think it has aged well. It sounded really wimpy. Of course it was thrash metal compared to the Night Ranger tune! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2016, 04:40:03 PM: Having a listen to the new Pretty Maids. Pretty damn good, might be worth a purchase.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 12, 2016, 07:43:10 PM: I was listening to Dio's Magica and Killing the Dragon today. I know Magica gets a lot of rave reviews, but I just tend to find it decent, not much more than that. I enjoy Killing the Dragon a lot more; it has much more of the classic Dio sound.

And speaking of Magica, I let that spoken word Magica story play out at the end of the disc. I love Dio, but that has to be 18 minutes of the most tripe I've ever heard.
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2016, 07:48:46 PM: I'm with you completely on all counts, Jason. Majica has a couple of good tunes. Losing My Insanity comes to mind. And while Killing The Dragon isn't great, I feel it's the best of the latter day Dio albums.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 12, 2016, 08:14:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 12, 2016, 07:43:10 PM
I was listening to Dio's Magica and Killing the Dragon today. I know Magica gets a lot of rave reviews, but I just tend to find it decent, not much more than that. I enjoy Killing the Dragon a lot more; it has much more of the classic Dio sound.

I agree. Magica hasn't grabbed me, but I really enjoy Killing the Dragon overall, especially the title track.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2016, 03:39:25 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 12, 2016, 07:43:10 PM
I was listening to Dio's Magica and Killing the Dragon today. I know Magica gets a lot of rave reviews, but I just tend to find it decent, not much more than that. I enjoy Killing the Dragon a lot more; it has much more of the classic Dio sound.

And speaking of Magica, I let that spoken word Magica story play out at the end of the disc. I love Dio, but that has to be 18 minutes of the most tripe I've ever heard.

Killing the Dragon is a solid record from top to bottom.

Magica is actually one of my fav Dio records, I always had a soft spot for it, but yeah, the story is pretty naff.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 13, 2016, 12:54:43 PM: For me, nothing comes close to the first three Dio albums. I found there to be a dip after that.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2016, 02:13:08 PM: I remember thinking that Sacred Heart was a huge dip. It has aged well, but a lot of the rest of Dio's catalog ended up being fairly mediocre. I still love Dream Evil and Lock Up The Wolves.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2016, 04:16:18 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2016, 12:54:43 PM
For me, nothing comes close to the first three Dio albums. I found there to be a dip after that.

First four for me. Magical was shit and I didn't enjoy much at all after that.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2016, 04:30:54 PM: Still on the podcast. The Impelliterri track isn't great. The remake on his new album doesn't do the job either. The only tack I liked on that ep was the Somewhere Over The Rainbow cover. Still play that a lot. And it's on my phone as a ringtone

What album by Petra would you recommend?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2016, 04:44:20 PM: I love Sacred Heart and LUTW :) (or the less plodding half of LUTW anyway...........some of my faves from him)

Quote from: Lowdz on November 13, 2016, 04:30:54 PM
Still on the podcast. The Impelliterri track isn't great. The remake on his new album doesn't do the job either. The only tack I liked on that ep was the Somewhere Over The Rainbow cover. Still play that a lot. And it's on my phone as a ringtone

What album by Petra would you recommend?

Funnily enough someone else PM'd me about how cool the Impelliterri track was :lol

I'm not totally across the whole Petra discog as , like I said in the podcast , it varies from melodic hard rock/metal to some of the wimpiest stuff you'll hear anywhere.

To the best of my knowledge (and for the tastes around here) the best places to start would be On Fire (as per 1988 podcast), Beyond Belief and Jekyll and Hyde. The title track from Jeckyll and Hyde is super heavy for them and a cool song - from memory the rest of the album didn't quite live up to that track.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2016, 06:32:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
Funnily enough someone else PM'd me about how cool the Impelliterri track was :lol

It sure as hell wasn't me! :) I'd never heard that before. I just thought it was some form of Alcatrazz, but of course Bonnett sang with Impelliteri. I do remember that, but never checked it out.
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Post by: Big Hath on November 13, 2016, 06:37:42 PM: ditto on those three for Petra.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2016, 06:43:02 PM: I want to say that I sampled some Petra somewhere along the way. I had seen them referenced and I must've sampled one of those wimpier things. I seem to remember not being impressed at the time. Of course this was a long time ago.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2016, 08:20:30 PM: Looking at Issue 37, 1983, there's an article on Rox. I bought their album and the LP is still in my attic!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2016, 08:21:35 PM: Totally off topic ( I really don't want to join the P/R section) but if you enjoy Baldwin doing Donald Trump then check this guy out. Amazing (and Sanders is great too).

https://youtu.be/YfXdmHseiFA

Maybe not totally off topic as there is a reference to Blondie at about 16.10 :lol

Another couple : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwMPyUxQe4A and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ8j0NZyXVE
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2016, 08:25:31 PM: Blondie!! :metal

Way better than you think! :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2016, 08:49:09 PM: JJ will be very happy to find out that in Issue 38, there's a Queen City Kids review!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2016, 09:16:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2016, 02:13:08 PM
I remember thinking that Sacred Heart was a huge dip.

That's because it is. :biggrin:
After the first two albums, Lock Up The Wolves and Kill the Dragon are the only Dio albums I listen to with any regularity. It's not that I dislike the rest of his music, but imo none of it is close to the same level of quality.
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Post by: Prog Snob on November 13, 2016, 10:22:07 PM: If anyone is interested, I grabbed a Tony Harnell bootleg from 2012 in NYC off of Dime.
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2016, 04:40:30 AM: I would actually say that Sacred Heart may be my fav Dio album.
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2016, 04:41:00 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/helloween-to-be-rejoined-by-michael-kiske-kai-hansen-for-pumpkins-united-world-tour/

Interesting.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2016, 08:20:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 14, 2016, 04:41:00 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/helloween-to-be-rejoined-by-michael-kiske-kai-hansen-for-pumpkins-united-world-tour/

Interesting.

Wow!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2016, 09:45:25 AM: The video of the reunion was posted in the Helloween section. This is very cool news and I hope a new album with everybody involved will be part of this package.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2016, 10:58:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 14, 2016, 04:40:30 AM
I would actually say that Sacred Heart may be my fav Dio album.

It's not mine but it's up there. Never got the love for Lock Up the Wolves. Start of his fall from grace there. Nothing after Dream Evil got close to Sacred Heart.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2016, 12:01:09 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 14, 2016, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 14, 2016, 04:40:30 AM
I would actually say that Sacred Heart may be my fav Dio album.

It's not mine but it's up there. Never got the love for Lock Up the Wolves. Start of his fall from grace there. Nothing after Dream Evil got close to Sacred Heart.

I just think Dio set the bar so high with Holy Diver and Last in Line, it was impossible to match those. Sacred Heart is a drop but the first half of the album is right there with the first two. Dream Evil and Wolves are good, but definitely have filler; especially Wolves. The album is a bit longer then is should have been.

Strange Highways is another drop off and Angry Machines is a very big drop off. I've tried to get into Angry Machines many times and the best I can rank it is decent, just like Magica
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2016, 01:41:07 PM: Angry Machine blows. Strange Highways has some awesome tunes on it though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2016, 04:04:12 PM: Its tough for me to say that something Dio is a part of sucks, but Angry Machines might be the one exception. I rank it at the absolute bottom of all albums that Ronnie is apart of (not including Elf, which I only listened to briefly, but knew I wouldn't like it and wouldn't buy any of the albums).

Strange Highways definitely has some great tunes; I think the two standouts for me are the title track and Bring Down the Rain.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2016, 04:44:18 PM: Speaking of old pictures, Brent, the pics in the Kerrangs are amazing. A lot of the band shots are so spontaneous and not posed. I cannot believe how young these bands look.
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2016, 04:50:12 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 14, 2016, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 14, 2016, 04:40:30 AM
I would actually say that Sacred Heart may be my fav Dio album.

It's not mine but it's up there. Never got the love for Lock Up the Wolves. Start of his fall from grace there. Nothing after Dream Evil got close to Sacred Heart.

I'm with you there Paul.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 14, 2016, 07:22:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 14, 2016, 04:44:18 PM
Speaking of old pictures, Brent, the pics in the Kerrangs are amazing. A lot of the band shots are so spontaneous and not posed. I cannot believe how young these bands look.

yeah - some great pics in there and mostly stuff I haven't seen before as I really wasn't into mags until the late 80's (my mid teens) for the most part.

Just checked out the 2016 release from a band I know you like Tim..................Hangar. Bloody awful - in fact , to coin a phrase , it blows :lol

Curious to know your thoughts if you have heard it. I like some of their stuff for sure but this album (and new singer) just don't cut it IMHO.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2016, 07:26:29 PM: I haven't actually.

Quote from: bl5150 on November 14, 2016, 07:22:11 PM
- in fact , to coin a phrase , it blows :lol

:lol

EDIT: Just checked out the first 3 songs. I swear I checked Spotify a couple of weeks ago for it. Not sure when it was put up.

I'll agree with you on the vocalist. He just doesn't fit. But musically, it's pretty damned good. I'll probably get this, but I can't until Christmas.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 14, 2016, 07:52:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 14, 2016, 07:26:29 PM
I haven't actually.

Quote from: bl5150 on November 14, 2016, 07:22:11 PM
- in fact , to coin a phrase , it blows :lol

:lol

EDIT: Just checked out the first 3 songs. I swear I checked Spotify a couple of weeks ago for it. Not sure when it was put up.

I'll agree with you on the vocalist. He just doesn't fit. But musically, it's pretty damned good. I'll probably get this, but I can't until Christmas.

The first three contained the only 2 songs I liked .....the rest of the album is where it's at (for the crap) :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2016, 07:57:04 PM: I'm jumping around on it now. One issue is that I feel like the guitars are tuned down to the singer. That may be part of the problem. Some great musicianship though.

I'll give it a couple of listens. The vocalist is not jiving. The band is awesome though. Would be better as an instrumental album. The Silence Of Innocent is pretty awesome.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 14, 2016, 07:57:49 PM: Fair enough _ I even thought the music was lifeless , especially for guys like Priester. Something very flat about most of the album for me. I will take your opinion on board though and upgrade my rating from "blows" to "sucks" ;D

Currently listening to this............

(https://www.metalmusicarchives.com/images/covers/tower-of-fire-this-time-its-on-fire-20160317231511.jpg) :lol

Tracklist
1. Prologue
2. This Time It’s Serious
3. The Fellowship of The Tower
4. Interlude: The Blacklord Raises an Army
5. The Knights of He Who Shan’t Be Named (Samalcock)
6. The Power of Fire
7. Beware the Dragonchicken
8. Lament for the Dragonchicken
9. The Swordsman of Outspoken Misc
10. Twelve Minutes Long
11. Fight for The Tower
12. And Back Again
13. Epilogue
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2016, 08:02:45 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 14, 2016, 07:57:49 PM
I will take your opinion on board though and upgrade my rating from "blows" to "sucks" ;D

Get it right! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2016, 04:19:55 AM: Hmmm....Gamma Ray drummer Michael Ehré and good old Henjo Ricther have formed a band for an early 2017 album release. Could be interesting, especially if Henjo handles songwriting.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2016, 06:21:46 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 14, 2016, 04:44:18 PM
Speaking of old pictures, Brent, the pics in the Kerrangs are amazing. A lot of the band shots are so spontaneous and not posed. I cannot believe how young these bands look.

I remember seeing a picture of Biff Buford standing with a cup of tea watching his wife (who had her arm in plaster) washing the car :biggrin: not sure if it was Kerrang, metal hammer or raw though.

But yeah, how young they all were. Me too I think :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2016, 06:47:33 PM: Just finished the podcast, and I cannot believe Flotsam & Jetsam was skipped. Next time, just have Ben pick ALL of the songs!
Jeesh.

From what I remember of the last couple listening sessions..

The Rage song was wicked. Earlier Sacred Warrior was better. For what is was, the Pseudo Echo tune was pretty good. Much better than the Cheap Trick or the Night Gay-nger. The Freidman was fantastic.
Some good stuff that I had never heard of before. Your research, Brent, was impressive.

Still, no Flotsam was a crime.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 15, 2016, 07:54:19 PM: I will revisit the Flotsam album just for you Tim........I looked at what I rated it a couple of years back and didn't think it was worth revisiting (massive upgrade required). I have actually tried to like them based on your recommendation - and I don't normally bother if something doesn't connect fairly quick - but they just never grabbed me enough to want repeat listens

One thing I admire them for is , unlike so many bands (especially these days) , they have their own style/sound and for that I give them props. But their quirky ,messy style of songwriting is something I have always struggled with. I listen to it and want to like it because of its originality , but just can't seem to. Voivod was another I can see the attraction to but just never want to hear the songs again.

I did like a few songs on their latest release but the Skip button was in use a bit.

As far as what makes the cut for a hard rock/metal radio show , I am sure that we all have ideas on what qualifies. I try and keep it pretty simple. If the softer song is from an album that has heavier songs and the band would be classified as hard rock or metal by the majority of a room full of of rock/metal fans then I am happy to feature it. I don't see any issue with Nothing Else Matters on a rock/metal show and would apply the same rule to wimpy tracks from Cheap Trick or Night Ranger - bands who I reckon most would have no issue calling "hard rock". That's where I see the difference between those songs and songs from Psuedo Echo or Chicago.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 16, 2016, 02:53:56 AM: Flotsam and Jetsom never did anything for me. It's ok, but not really my thing. I wasn't into thrash at all at the time, other than Anthrax's Spreading the Disease and Megadeth's RIP (and I only liked half of that).
I've been a lot more ready to give the heavier stuff a go in recent years but F&J don't cut it. Like a lot of thrash it sounds amateurish to me.
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2016, 06:01:50 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 15, 2016, 07:54:19 PM
One thing I admire them for is , unlike so many bands (especially these days) , they have their own style/sound and for that I give them props. But their quirky ,messy style of songwriting is something I have always struggled with. I listen to it and want to like it because of its originality , but just can't seem to.

That makes sense. You use the term quirky. At their best, they were kind of quirky. I'm a huge fan of the classic era of their original 6 albums from '85-'97. But the two standouts are No Place For Disgrace ('88) and When The Storm Comes Down ('90). They are the two albums that feature Troy Gregory on bass and his influence is clear. They were never the same after he left. With him, they had some real personality in their music. Of the half dozen albums or so after '97, they have had some lineup changes, and I'm not a fan of most of these albums. But their latest album is rooted in the two classic albums I mentioned so it really appeals to me. It has that feel. Take a song off the new album like Life Is A Mess (a finalist for TAC Track Of The Year). Easily could've come off one of those albums.

With all of the barrel scraping for the '88 podcast, I figured we could crack the top 120 and find a spot for one of the many great tracks from No Place..The title track, Dream Of Death, Escape From Within, I Live You Die, Misguided Fortune, PAAB.

Anyway, thank you for all of your hard work and research for the mammoth '88 project. It is truly appreciated. :hefdaddy

But the best part goes to Ben, "YOU'RE SUCH A LIAR!!" :rollin
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2016, 06:07:11 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 16, 2016, 02:53:56 AM
Flotsam and Jetsom never did anything for me. It's ok, but not really my thing. I wasn't into thrash at all at the time, other than Anthrax's Spreading the Disease and Megadeth's RIP (and I only liked half of that).
I've been a lot more ready to give the heavier stuff a go in recent years but F&J don't cut it. Like a lot of thrash it sounds amateurish to me.

Amateurish.. I'm thinking about this term, and I think I can see it. Their was something amateurish about them. Seeing them live in those early years was really like watching a band play in their garage. But F&J, to me, just had something fresh about them. They stood out to me.
I preferred them back then easily over Testament, which felt one dimensional.

One thing F&J never had going for them was having a great soloist on guitar. I think that ultimately hurt their appeal.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2016, 06:45:31 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2016, 06:01:50 AM
Take a song off the new album like Life Is A Mess (a finalist for TAC Track Of The Year).

I quite liked that song

Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2016, 06:01:50 AM
one of the many great tracks from No Place..The title track, Dream Of Death, Escape From Within, I Live You Die, Misguided Fortune, PAAB.

Going off my old song ratings the only one of those I liked was I Live You Die

Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2016, 06:01:50 AM

With all of the barrel scraping for the '88 podcast

Everyone seems to think I scraped different parts of the barrel , so job done ;D

Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2016, 06:01:50 AM

Anyway, thank you for all of your hard work and research for the mammoth '88 project. It is truly appreciated. :hefdaddy

But the best part goes to Ben, "YOU'RE SUCH A LIAR!!" :rollin

No worries. Ben may well be suspended for the next podcast - it's before a tribunal :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 16, 2016, 07:55:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2016, 06:45:31 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 16, 2016, 06:01:50 AM
Take a song off the new album like Life Is A Mess (a finalist for TAC Track Of The Year).

I quite liked that song

Good. Hopefully it makes the 2016 Wrap Up.

Quote from: bl5150 on November 16, 2016, 06:45:31 AM
Going off my old song ratings the only one of those I liked was I Live You Die

Throw old TAC a bone and get it on the next regular podcast. :)
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Post by: bl5150 on November 17, 2016, 04:28:56 PM: The Armored Saint live album will have 8 tracks - didn't notice that in the initial press releases. :-\

01. Win Hands Down
02. March Of The Saint
03. Stricken By Fate
04. Last Train Home
05. Mess
06. Aftermath
07. Left Hook From Right Field
08. Reign Of Fire

Hard to do justice to a catalogue with 8 songs.
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Post by: TAC on November 17, 2016, 06:47:05 PM: Geez, that's disappointing. Similar to Saints Will Conquer, which is still amazing. I'll still get it though.

EDIT: Here's a clip of Aftermath.
https://bravewords.com/news/armored-saint-aftermath-live-video-streaming

This song just isn't right without Dave. This was a tour de force for him.

But holy hell JOHN BUSH!!! :hefdaddy
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 17, 2016, 07:35:17 PM: 8 songs is still better then nothing, but c'mon, that seems a little greasy. They must have taped many more songs then that. Oh well, Armored Saint still kicks ass.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2016, 01:44:48 AM: Were they the support act, or headlining? That's a shit return if they were headlining.
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2016, 03:34:35 AM: Some vids of this Trinity thing;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-blaze-bayley-and-tim-ripper-owens-kick-off-trinity-tour-in-falls-church-virginia-video/

Shitty lineup and only the one song with all three seems strange.

Only checked out the Trooper and Bayley sounds alright. Things could have been pretty good for him if Steve just tuned the old songs down live for him.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2016, 04:08:55 PM: I was expecting to see alot more songs with all three singing together, I thought that was the purpose of this tour.

I can't believe Tate is playing that piece of junk Stranger song.

I would still go see this live if it rolled through Winnipeg, but not likely to happen. "Stranger" time would be piss break time.
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2016, 11:25:55 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 20, 2016, 04:08:55 PM
I can't believe Tate is playing that piece of junk Stranger song.

"Stranger" time would be piss break time.

:rollin

Yeah, only the one song with the three of them is stupid.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2016, 11:59:35 PM: When I saw QR on the OM 1&2 tour , the whole of OM2 was one jumbo piss break . I went and got some Maccas and came back for the encore :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 21, 2016, 02:13:45 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 20, 2016, 11:59:35 PM
When I saw QR on the OM 1&2 tour , the whole of OM2 was one jumbo piss break . I went and got some Maccas and came back for the encore :lol

You must have been taking a piss like Ogre in Revenge of the Nerds 2 lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2016, 04:26:54 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 20, 2016, 11:59:35 PM
When I saw QR on the OM 1&2 tour , the whole of OM2 was one jumbo piss break . I went and got some Maccas and came back for the encore :lol

:lol

In all seriousness though, I saw that show too and even though I watched the whole thing, it was really amazing the difference between the two Mindcrime sets. The Mindcrime 2 set simply had no business standing next to OM1.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2016, 04:50:03 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 21, 2016, 04:26:54 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 20, 2016, 11:59:35 PM
When I saw QR on the OM 1&2 tour , the whole of OM2 was one jumbo piss break . I went and got some Maccas and came back for the encore :lol

:lol

In all seriousness though, I saw that show too and even though I watched the whole thing, it was really amazing the difference between the two Mindcrime sets. The Mindcrime 2 set simply had no business standing next to OM1.

It really was Operation Livecrime. :neverusethis:

And that operation has been ongoing ever since for Geoffrey .
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Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2016, 07:03:39 AM: What did you think of the new Morse Cd Paul ? - I saw you mentioned it in the album thread a few days back.

I am 3/4 of the way through and really struggling to get to the end. I would say I enjoyed half a dozen tracks , which ain't great from 23. I have zero interest in the concept , but (based on reviews) I was hoping the music would stand on its own. Not for me I am afraid - the sort of prog that bores me and just reinforces my prior inability to get into his material and see the songwriting brilliance that everyone else seems to see. :-\

The pre-release song So Far Gone convinced me to give it a go , but that was easily my favourite.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2016, 07:50:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 21, 2016, 07:03:39 AM
What did you think of the new Morse Cd Paul ? - I saw you mentioned it in the album thread a few days back.

I am 3/4 of the way through and really struggling to get to the end. I would say I enjoyed half a dozen tracks , which ain't great from 23. I have zero interest in the concept , but (based on reviews) I was hoping the music would stand on its own. Not for me I am afraid - the sort of prog that bores me and just reinforces my prior inability to get into his material and see the songwriting brilliance that everyone else seems to see. :-\

The pre-release song So Far Gone convinced me to give it a go , but that was easily my favourite.

Well, NM certainly has a style. I have no interest in the story either and having googled the synopsis of the original story I have even less.
Saying that, I like NM's music Nd enjoyed that he's got a petrucci style shredder on board. I played it in the car and enjoyed it well enough but that was over several journeys and not one long slog.
I thought it was ok.
Thought the heavier bits were a bit forced.

I won't feel the need to play the whole thing in one go.
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Post by: Samsara on November 22, 2016, 04:03:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 02, 2016, 06:26:35 PM
At one point, I could've worn a different Maiden shirt everyday for a month. Seriously.

I know I am bringing back up a post from a bunch of pages back, but this is awesome.

:rollin

Looking forward to joining in the fun. I have some Queensryche stuff to post, some Fifth Angel, but that's about it in regard to classic metal.

Speaking of little Seattle cult metal band Fifth Angel -- fans may be surprised to know they have reunited with drummer Ken Mary and will gig next year with vocalist Peter Orullian (who fronted them in 2010 at Keep it True in Germany). And while I don't know the state of the new demos, I know there was a ton of material from 2010 that Ed Archer and the other guys were working on. So could be new tunes too. So if you dug those guys, stay tuned next year.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 22, 2016, 04:06:19 PM: Fifth Angel is just classic metal all the way. It's a shame that they only released those two albums and never made a dent in the music world. Lots of talent and I love those two discs.

I think Ted Pilot got into dentistry, but it would be interesting to see if he still has the pipes. Regardless, new music with the new singer would still be awesome. I saw footage of them playing in 2010 and they sounded great.
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Post by: TAC on November 22, 2016, 04:28:25 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on November 22, 2016, 04:03:06 PM
Speaking of little Seattle cult metal band Fifth Angel -- fans may be surprised to know they have reunited with drummer Ken Mary

Did someone say Ken Mary?

Taken at the Boston Garden, November 17, 1987.
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/KM.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/KM.jpg.html)
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Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2016, 05:05:32 PM: I love Time Will Tell, but never gave the debut much attention. I should change that. I have both on cd somewhere.
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Post by: Samsara on November 22, 2016, 05:51:07 PM: Great pic, TAC!!! I've seen that a time or two, and still jealous as hell.

Quote from: wolfking on November 22, 2016, 05:05:32 PM
I love Time Will Tell, but never gave the debut much attention. I should change that. I have both on cd somewhere.

Wolf -- the debut is much less polished. It's more metal. I prefer the self-titled debut, but love both records. Gonna have to take some photos here and show off. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 22, 2016, 05:53:34 PM: Poor Ken still has the scars from the chickenpox Tim gave him.

Both the Fifth Angel albums are cool - from memory I would also lean toward the debut marginally.
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Post by: TAC on November 22, 2016, 05:58:45 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on November 22, 2016, 05:51:07 PM
. Gonna have to take some photos here and show off. :lol

Definitely Sam. Or do we call you Anybody now? ;D

I prefer the debut from Fifth Angel. It's a cool album.

Quote from: bl5150 on November 22, 2016, 05:53:34 PM
Poor Ken still has the scars from the chickenpox Tim gave him.
That's not chickenpox! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 22, 2016, 06:01:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 22, 2016, 05:58:45 PM

That's not chickenpox! :lol

Just kidding - I knew it was "blood" from Alice Cooper. :P
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Post by: TAC on November 22, 2016, 06:02:26 PM: I was making some nasty backstage joke.
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Post by: Samsara on November 22, 2016, 06:22:43 PM: OK, here are a couple.

First, what's on my den wall, currently, from Fifth Angel. A photo of me, Ed Archer, Kendall Bechtal, and John Macko, from the Seattle Hard Rock Cafe, where one of their pictures from 1989 is displayed. Fully autographed and personalized record (self-titled and Time Will Tell -- yes, Ted Pilot autographed both), and a setlist personalized and signed to me by the band circa 2010 (pre-gig setlist, it has a song on it they cut):

(https://www.anybodylistening.net/images/FifthAngelstuff1.jpg)

Here's another...Fifth Angel lead guitarists James Byrd and Kendall Bechtall, flanking me. This is from 2006 (pre-goatee for me). It's a story for a different day, but both guys were gracious enough to hang out with my wife and I for an afternoon while we were up in Seattle. Great guys, both of them, and both very supportive of one another.

(https://www.anybodylistening.net/images/Byrd-Me-Kendall.jpg)

Lastly, a pair of drumsticks used by Jeffrey McCormack, who played drums for the band in 2010 at the Keep it True Festival in Germany

(https://www.anybodylistening.net/images/FAsticks.jpg)

>>>The guys in Fifth Angel are friends of mine. When they were prepping in 2010 to play live, I was helping them out with some online stuff, and visited rehearsal one day before they had a singer. They played me the entire set instrumentally, which I sang along to as loud as I possibly could. Kendall heard me singing, and after the set, they told me to get up to the mic and sing a few songs. I blew out my voice (remember, this was my first favorite band before Queensryche), so I couldn't really sing. :( But I did my best on We Rule, The Night, and...I think we did In the Fallout. I have video, but don't want to post it. I actually CAN sing, and this was not a good representation. I can sing those songs OK (would prefer them to drop it a half step, as I am a baritone naturally), but I had already sung for an hour like a crazed fanboy. :rollin Simply put, it is my fondest musical memory. My inner 11 year old, who got that first record in 1987, was in all his glory. :metal
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Post by: TAC on November 22, 2016, 06:31:46 PM: All very cool Brian. Except for the Jets jersey! ;D

So recently in this thread, we've talked about what it was like to check out new bands back in the day. Fifth Angel was a band that I saw countless ads for but for some reason just never pulled the trigger. They always piqued my interest, but they weren't available in any record store near me, and it would required me to order from a magazine ad. Blindly. And I don't remember if I knew that Ken Mary joined them. I know I saw him with House Of Lords.

Anyway, I'm glad I checked out Fifth Angel eventually. Those two albums are very cool.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 22, 2016, 06:58:10 PM: Brian could probably confirm this, but I don't think Fifth Angel played many, if any gigs live during their time in the 80s. I think they were mostly a studio band.

I put Fifth Angel in the same category as Armored Saint, Crimson Glory, Sword and Lethal. Very underrated pure metal bands.

I also don't think I've ever played one Fifth Angel disc without playing the other. To me it's mandatory to play both one after the other.

Cool picture Tim and cool pictures Brian!
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Post by: TAC on November 22, 2016, 07:05:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 22, 2016, 06:58:10 PM
I put Fifth Angel in the same category as Armored Saint, Crimson Glory, Sword and Lethal. Very underrated pure metal bands.

Armored Saint is the only one that really had any exposure. I actually bought Sword's Metallized as a blind buy. I found it in a bargain bin.
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Post by: Samsara on November 22, 2016, 07:21:21 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 22, 2016, 06:58:10 PM
Brian could probably confirm this, but I don't think Fifth Angel played many, if any gigs live during their time in the 80s. I think they were mostly a studio band.

I put Fifth Angel in the same category as Armored Saint, Crimson Glory, Sword and Lethal. Very underrated pure metal bands.

I also don't think I've ever played one Fifth Angel disc without playing the other. To me it's mandatory to play both one after the other.

Cool picture Tim and cool pictures Brian!

Thanks!

Fifth Angel only played a couple of record label showcases that were not public in the 80s. 2010 was their first official live gig.
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Post by: TAC on November 22, 2016, 07:32:01 PM: Brian, when the Queensryche EP came out, there was a newsletter that came out at the same time. It talked about them also not doing live shows, but staying underground to perfect their sound and songs. Have you ever seen this?

You also had a scan of the Capitol "Hot Metal" poster with Iron Maiden, Queensryche, and Helix on your site. That was a free poster being given out, and I had that as a 14 year old hanging on my bedroom wall. I got goosebumps seeing that on your site.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3RkAAOSwgQ9Vt7v3/s-l300.jpg)
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Post by: Samsara on November 22, 2016, 07:39:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 22, 2016, 07:32:01 PM
Brian, when the Queensryche EP came out, there was a newsletter that came out at the same time. It talked about them also not doing live shows, but staying underground to perfect their sound and songs. Have you ever seen this?

You also had a scan of the Capitol "Hot Metal" poster with Iron Maiden, Queensryche, and Helix on your site. That was a free poster being given out, and I had that as a 14 year old hanging on my bedroom wall. I got goosebumps seeing that on your site.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3RkAAOSwgQ9Vt7v3/s-l300.jpg)

Yes, Queensryche didn't play any live gigs from the time EMI signed them until they went on tour. Probably a six-month span. They spent that time writing songs that would end up on The Warning, and played a bunch of them when touring on the EP.

I remember that newsletter. I am not sure I have it. Would be cool if I found it and posted it. I think I have a whole bunch of fan club newsletters up there. If I don't, I need to get them scanned and up.
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Post by: TAC on November 22, 2016, 07:44:25 PM: The newsletter I'm thinking of was being distributed in the record store. It definitely wasn't a fan club newsletter.

That poster was so cool. I remember just staring at the Iron Maiden picture. It was a lot clearer and larger than the one in my cassette.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 22, 2016, 08:14:09 PM: I've never seen that poster before. It looks awesome!
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Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2016, 04:30:03 AM: Looks like I'll definitely have to find the debut cd I have from Fifth Angel. I think I always leaned towards Time Will Tell cause it had more of the melodic rock style.
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Post by: Samsara on November 23, 2016, 08:16:21 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 23, 2016, 04:30:03 AM
Looks like I'll definitely have to find the debut cd I have from Fifth Angel. I think I always leaned towards Time Will Tell cause it had more of the melodic rock style.

It certainly is more melodic hard rock for sure. I remember getting it in my Christmas stocking in 1989. I had scanned the music magazines forever for two years to hear more about Fifth Angel, and then saw it reviewed. Thankfully, Santa saw my desperation and got it. :lol

It immediately struck me as different, but I loved it all the same. It was the classic story of the kid (I was 13) waking up at like 3 a.m., pulling that out of his stocking, and falling asleep again clutching the cassette case with my Walkman headphones on. My Christmas was made. I can't tell you anything else I received that Christmas, but I'll never forget that. Good memories. :tup

My favorites to this day are We Rule, Cathedral, and Angel of Mercy. But I dig the whole thing. I think they could have left off one of the ballads (either So Long or Broken Dreams), but it was 1989, so I get it. lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 23, 2016, 12:26:24 PM: Nothing says Christmas more then family, turkey dinner, candy canes, mistletoe, eggnog and a Fifth Angel cassette!
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Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2016, 04:25:25 AM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on November 23, 2016, 08:16:21 AM
But I dig the whole thing. I think they could have left off one of the ballads (either So Long or Broken Dreams), but it was 1989, so I get it. lol

I have no problem with the whole thing either, but I kinda wish they left off the UFO cover.

AnybodyListening.net, curious, where have you been hiding? Your contributions in this thread have been awesome, unless I'm just living under a rock and been completely oblivious haha.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 24, 2016, 12:49:54 PM: We've been eating at Monk's and Brian (anybodylistening) has been eating at Reggies. But he is more than welcome to join us!
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Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2016, 04:43:06 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 24, 2016, 12:49:54 PM
We've been eating at Monk's and Brian (anybodylistening) has been eating at Reggies. But he is more than welcome to join us!

:rollin

He's from the bizarro world? Lucky we don't already have a Brian!
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 25, 2016, 05:57:17 AM: Brian has major music knowledge and his Queensryche knowledge is unmatched
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Post by: TAC on November 25, 2016, 08:36:37 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 25, 2016, 05:57:17 AM
Brian has major music knowledge and his Queensryche knowledge is unmatched

You might say he's the King Of The Reich. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on November 25, 2016, 08:37:16 AM: The Vest of the Vest :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 25, 2016, 11:30:22 AM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2016, 01:59:49 PM: When it comes to Queensryche, he can tate on anyone!
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Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2016, 03:58:47 AM: New Firewind;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Q1o0m2sik

Pretty good even if it is pretty standard and generic. Doesn't really sound like Firewind that much to me, but Henning seems like a good choice.
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Post by: Samsara on November 27, 2016, 01:02:20 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 24, 2016, 04:25:25 AM

AnybodyListening.net, curious, where have you been hiding? Your contributions in this thread have been awesome, unless I'm just living under a rock and been completely oblivious haha.

Thanks about the additions. I have a bunch more, particularly Queensryche, if anyone wants to see that, but most others are not "classic" hard rock and metal. Big Alter Bridge fan, have stuff from them, and a few things from various artists (Testament, Eric Gales, etc.)

No, I haven't been around at all, so you're not oblivious. To be really honest, I haven't really liked what Dream Theater has done in recent years, starting with Octavarium. And while bosk1 and I are friends, we lost touch for awhile, so I pretty much disappeared. I kept my finger on the pulse of what DT was doing (I'm a native Long Islander, and love the band's 90s output), but jumped off the forum.

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 25, 2016, 05:57:17 AM
Brian has major music knowledge and his Queensryche knowledge is unmatched

Quote from: TAC on November 25, 2016, 08:36:37 AM

You might say he's the King Of The Reich. ;D

:rollin Ha ha ha. Thanks guys.

Wolf - yeah, my main passion is the ORIGINAL LINEUP of Queensryche. I've been working on my AnybodyListening.net site for awhile now. I wrote a historical retrospective on the band that isn't quite where I want it to be yet, but is meant to preserve the history of the original band, which sadly, has been sort of been forgotten about to an extent over time. A bunch of folks asked me to write a book on the band (I spent most of my career as a journalist), but the market really isn't there for that (and I didn't want to profit off the band). I didn't want to give up on the idea, however, as the original lineup has been my favorite group since 1987/1988. So the site is written in a way to serve as the definitive guide to Queensryche's formation, and the evolution of the original lineup. If you ever have time to read it, there are two parts: the historical retrospective, and then the appendix which has a huge tour date archive and clippings scrapbook, along with a discography. In a nutshell -- it's an online book laid out as a website.

Quote from: wolfking on November 27, 2016, 03:58:47 AM
New Firewind;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Q1o0m2sik

Pretty good even if it is pretty standard and generic. Doesn't really sound like Firewind that much to me, but Henning seems like a good choice.

I think Henning is better than who Gus had previously fronting Firewind. To my ear, you can't appropriately replace Apollo. My wife is a huge Firewind fan, and she says the same thing. But unfortunately, there is some bad blood between FW and Apollo, so I don't expect a reunion any time soon. The new FW song sounds like FW musically, but with a gruffer vocal style. Not nearly as dynamic as Apollo.

Apollo has a solo record coming out in a couple of weeks...
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Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2016, 03:14:17 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on November 27, 2016, 01:02:20 PM

Apollo has a solo record coming out in a couple of weeks...

It's actually been out for a couple of weeks and it's better than I expected. Strong Whitesnake/Purple vibe at times but the songs just have that little extra bit of thought compared to a lot of the cookie cutter retro crap around at the moment and I gave it a repeat listen straight away (rare these days). A good effort from him. I must admit I was sceptical when I saw the list of about 50 people who played on it - those albums are often a jumbled mess but he has clearly pulled the right strings and got the result he wanted.
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Post by: Samsara on November 27, 2016, 03:23:43 PM: Here's some more stuff.

Speaking of Firewind -- below is my wife's collection of signed stuff from the last tour with Apollo. Jealous she got to go, but only one of us could, and she is the bigger fan. The lithograph is signed, she took the Gus G. photo, and then the VIP pass and pic with the band:

(https://www.anybodylistening.net/images/firewind.jpg)

Below are a couple Queensryche things (of many) we've had signed over the years:

(https://www.anybodylistening.net/images/hitnf-signed.jpg)

(https://iwww.anybodylistening.net/images/clear-pl-empire.jpg)

A couple of pictures of myself with Fates Warning (including Frank Aresti, who lives in the Bay Area now, and was at the show and played "Still Remains" with the band) from Dec. 2013, and Sevendust from their acoustic tour a couple years back:

(https://www.anybodylistening.net/images/fates-7d.jpg)

A couple of signed Alter Bridge items:

(https://www.anybodylistening.net/images/ab-signed.jpg)

Part of my den wall with assorted signed LPs and pics. Of note is the signed copy of Mastodon's Crack the Skye (and my pic meeting them), and some more Alter Bridge stuff:

(https://www.anybodylistening.net/images/assorted.jpg)

>>>>I've got a bunch of Queensryche stuff (photos with the original band, signed stuff, etc.) I am in the process of getting everything framed and hung up in my home office. Once I do, I'll post it up. Of note in that stuff is a signed 206 Records copy of the EP (before QR was signed), a signed blue-ring (original) Rage for Order LP, some personalized stuff signed by Pamela Moore, etc.

I don't have the biggest collection, but I slowly add to it as I have the opportunity. :)
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Post by: Samsara on November 27, 2016, 03:25:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 27, 2016, 03:14:17 PM
Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on November 27, 2016, 01:02:20 PM

Apollo has a solo record coming out in a couple of weeks...

It's actually been out for a couple of weeks and it's better than I expected. Strong Whitesnake/Purple vibe at times but the songs just have that little extra bit of thought compared to a lot of the cookie cutter retro crap around at the moment and I gave it a repeat listen straight away (rare these days). A good effort from him. I must admit I was sceptical when I saw the list of about 50 people who played on it - those albums are often a jumbled mess but he has clearly pulled the right strings and got the result he wanted.

Glad it is good. Weird. I have it pre-ordered on Amazon as a gift for the Mrs. Not out yet at least on there, for the U.S.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2016, 04:13:09 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on November 27, 2016, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 27, 2016, 03:14:17 PM
Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on November 27, 2016, 01:02:20 PM

Apollo has a solo record coming out in a couple of weeks...

It's actually been out for a couple of weeks and it's better than I expected. Strong Whitesnake/Purple vibe at times but the songs just have that little extra bit of thought compared to a lot of the cookie cutter retro crap around at the moment and I gave it a repeat listen straight away (rare these days). A good effort from him. I must admit I was sceptical when I saw the list of about 50 people who played on it - those albums are often a jumbled mess but he has clearly pulled the right strings and got the result he wanted.

Glad it is good. Weird. I have it pre-ordered on Amazon as a gift for the Mrs. Not out yet at least on there, for the U.S.

Must be an Amazon thing - might be worth following up. Escape (the label) have it as 18th Nov and a US distributor that stocks this sort of stuff (NEH Records) has it currently available , order shipping tomorrow. I would guess it has been this way since the 18th.

Nice memorabilia too :tup

Personally I hate the stuff :D

If anyone's interested I posted a couple of my guitars in another thread a few days back

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39545.msg2242096#msg2242096
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Post by: Big Hath on November 27, 2016, 06:41:34 PM: so the Armored Saint/Queensryche concert was last night and it was awesome. It was my first time seeing either band and both Bush and La Torre were awesome. Both of them unleashed some pretty impressive vocals in the high registers throughout their respective setlists (Queen of the Reich, wow).

The venue is a favorite of mine as it is relatively small and the stage is very tight so there is almost no way of getting a dull performance.

Saint mixed in 3 or 4 new songs with a list of classics. Tribal Dance, Reign of Fire, In An Instant, Aftermath, Can U Deliver, and March of the Saint were standouts. Wish I could have seen Last Train Home and Chemical Euphoria, but they mixed in a song or two I don't think they've played this tour yet like Mad House. Joey Vera is fun to watch live.

QR also played 4 new songs amongst their normal hits and fan faves. Of the new songs I thought Eye9 and Guardian came across the best, although none of them were bad. The crowd was great and you could hear them singing along with just about every song.
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Post by: TAC on November 27, 2016, 06:50:17 PM: That's awesome Hath!

John Bush is ridiculous. Period. And Gonzo was the heaviest drummer I've ever seen. His playing shook my whole body.
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Post by: Big Hath on November 27, 2016, 07:07:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 27, 2016, 06:50:17 PM
John Bush is ridiculous. Period.

YES! So much energy.

He told a story from when he was in Anthrax and they made a tour stop in Dallas with Pantera back in the day. After the Anthrax set, Dimebag and Vinnie came out and wanted to play a song with Anthrax, but it wasn't a Pantera or Anthrax song, it was Can U Deliver. Of course right after the story the band went right into that song and killed it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2016, 07:08:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 27, 2016, 06:50:17 PM
That's awesome Hath!

John Bush is ridiculous. Period. And Gonzo was the heaviest drummer I've ever seen. His playing shook my whole body.

The recent Queensryche gig down here was great too. I don't think Armored Saint have ever toured Australia :-\

EDIT Well bloody hell - they toured in 2009 with Death Angel >:( Any vids of your body shaking Tim , so I can see what I missed? :D
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Post by: TAC on November 27, 2016, 07:15:17 PM: Words cannot express how much I love Armored Saint.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 27, 2016, 08:46:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 27, 2016, 07:15:17 PM
Words cannot express how much I love Armored Saint.

I think you just did :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2016, 08:49:12 PM: One more thing about the Apollo album - which I liked even more on the second listen.

As per many albums these days it is a track or two too long , but the last track was a bad idea I think. You've just produced a really good album with fine vocals , so what do you do to finish? Cover a Phenomena song from the mighty Ray Gillen and show us that maybe you're not that amazing after all :lol
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Post by: Samsara on November 27, 2016, 10:52:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 27, 2016, 07:15:17 PM
Words cannot express how much I love Armored Saint.

Ditto.

Hath -- glad you dug the show. I went to my local gig, and managed to catch two songs of Midnight Eternal, and then of course, the mighty ARMORED SAINT. John Bush is my favorite frontman (not singer, frontman), and that band -- SO. MUCH. ENERGY. I've seen them twice in support now of their last album, Win Hands Down. Both times it was opening -- first for Saxon (who I didn't stay for, not a fan), and now for QR (which I also didn't stay for). I had a ticket to see them headline with Metal Church opening earlier this year, and my wife ended up going. Win Hands Down is probably the best of theirs since the classic Symbol of Salvation. Just so good. Really dig it.

As for QR, I'm not really big on current QR. But this is the first tour leg they've done since hiring La Torre where they properly supported their new record at a headline show (playing more than one or two songs). So I am happy they are finally playing four songs from it. Clips I've heard have sounded pretty good. La Torre is pretty good on the early QR stuff. Not so much to my ears on some of the Mindcrime, Empire, and PL stuff. His voice is thinner than Tate's, and it shows on those prime-era classic QR songs. But it sounds like he's been singing fairly well on this tour leg, which is great for fans.

Getting back to John Bush and Armored Saint -- just such a great metal band. I even prefer Bush era Anthrax over Belladonna era (and I like Belladonna). John Bush is just the man.

Now, if only he and the Anthrax guys would pull a Dio-era Sabbath, re-christen themselves, and go out and play all that Bush-era Anthrax...
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Post by: Samsara on November 27, 2016, 10:56:34 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 27, 2016, 06:41:34 PM

Saint mixed in 3 or 4 new songs with a list of classics. Tribal Dance, Reign of Fire, In An Instant, Aftermath, Can U Deliver, and March of the Saint were standouts. Wish I could have seen Last Train Home and Chemical Euphoria, but they mixed in a song or two I don't think they've played this tour yet like Mad House. Joey Vera is fun to watch live.

Weird. At my gig earlier this month, they did play Last Train Home and Chemical Euphoria. But I didn't get Tribal Dance, In An Instant, or Aftermath. My show was cut short by two songs though, because their bus broke down. so that may have been why. I have some vids I need to upload (I have to start a YouTube channel), and Last Train Home is one of the ones I recorded. I try and do one or two from each band I see, without being obnoxious to the folks around me.
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Post by: Big Hath on November 27, 2016, 11:02:32 PM: yeah, I had been monitoring their playlists this tour to put a "mix tape" together for my wife to get her familiarized with their music. Last Train Home and Chemical Euphoria had made just about every show I had looked at. Oh well, it was a great set just the same.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 27, 2016, 11:17:34 PM: I can see Anthrax getting back with Bush in some capacity and doing a reunion. Just like the Dio Heaven & Hell band. Bush has one of my favourite voices and it just is one of the defining metal voices, just awesome.

I would still take Bush in Armored Saint over Anthrax any day though.

Both La Raza and Win Hands Down are growers. Neither one blew me over upon first couple of listens, but upon a few listens they are definitely major winners.

I think that's why the upcoming live Armored Saint is a letdown from the setlist point of view. I was hoping for a lot of newer songs on the disc, a double live album would have been perfect. Still, 8 songs is a bit of a head scratcher.

But it's still all good, Armored Saint kicks ass and they are without question, one of, if not the most underrated heavy metal band of all time.

And was actually just listening to Greater of Two Evils by Anthrax. That's one of my favorite releases from Anthrax and Bush just adds a tough edge to the songs
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Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2016, 04:33:19 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 27, 2016, 08:49:12 PM
One more thing about the Apollo album - which I liked even more on the second listen.

As per many albums these days it is a track or two too long , but the last track was a bad idea I think. You've just produced a really good album with fine vocals , so what do you do to finish? Cover a Phenomena song from the mighty Ray Gillen and show us that maybe you're not that amazing after all :lol

I hate when cover songs are the last track. Although the Find Me comes to mind with a nice Kenny Loggins cover.

Might have to check the Apollo out from what your opinions are Brent. I heard one song and wrote it off.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2016, 04:54:12 AM: I'm pretty sure that I wasn't rapt in the first song I heard either - hence my comment about "better than expected". It's certainly not in my top few of the year or anything particularly original, but it's got enough about it to have it well above most of the usual suspects that release the same stuff over and over.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 28, 2016, 04:54:50 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 27, 2016, 08:49:12 PM
One more thing about the Apollo album - which I liked even more on the second listen.

As per many albums these days it is a track or two too long , but the last track was a bad idea I think. You've just produced a really good album with fine vocals , so what do you do to finish? Cover a Phenomena song from the mighty Ray Gillen and show us that maybe you're not that amazing after all :lol

Good album. I was pleased with it. Wasn't xpecting much either.
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2016, 01:26:49 PM: So, 2016 was a great year. But one album that seems to have flown under the radar, maybe because it was released way back in January is Megadeth's Dystopia. For weeks, I've been meaning to spin it and finally did so today for the first time in a while.

Just want to restate how awesome this album is. It seems like Dave was less intent on delivering hooks and more intent on bringing the :metal. This has an Old School feel, and by Old School, I'm thinking Killing or Peace Sells. The riffage is fantastic, and Chris Adler and Kiko Whateverhisnameis both give amazing performances. This album is so much stronger than the previous two.

And say what you want about Dave Mustaine. He is a survivor and has (not so) quietly put together one of the best All Time Heavy Metal Discographies.
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Post by: Samsara on November 28, 2016, 02:05:43 PM: I think Dystopia was Megadeth's finest record since Endgame. Endgame was awesome except for that horrendous ballad he put on there to his wife. Still don't get that one.

But yeah, Dystopia was incredible. Kiko very much inspired him to be a better player, that's for sure, and Dave brought it. Megadeth has some bad clunkers in the overall discography (Risk is terrible, Thirteen isn't that good, and is pretty much a solo project Dave wrote with the producer, and Super Collider was awful except for a couple of tracks). But Dystopia really sort of revives that thrash metal inner soul of the band, and I was glad to hear it.

Dave's voice is shot, and I really don't wanna see them live, as they tune down all the old songs. But the new record is stellar. Hopefully, Megadeth can put out another couple of killer thrashy records that still break some new ground for the band, before calling it a day.

Dystopia was released this year? Could have sworn it was last year. But you're probably right. My two favorite records this year are Fates Warning and Megadeth...
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2016, 02:10:59 PM: Yeah, Brian, I was curious for your thoughts. You've been missed on things like this. It was released on January 22nd, same day as The Astonishing.

I think Dave likes to experiment a little, but when he's intent on bringing the metal, he delivers. I also loved Endgame, which like RiP, has a great balance of hooks and chunk.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 28, 2016, 02:43:54 PM: Fates Warning is the clear winner for me for album of the year. I still can't get enough of that disc and it easily is up there with Perfect Symmetry, Parallels, and Inside Out, which were my clear three favorites from the band.

I can play Seven Stars and Light and Shade of Things on loop all day and not get tired of those two songs.

I still never checked out the new Megadeth, I should probably do that. The last new Megadeth I heard was End Game, which I thought was very good.
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2016, 02:47:45 PM: Jason, Endgame was awesome. I agree. Dystopia is a total thrash fest. If you like the early albums, you should like Dystopia.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2016, 03:07:51 PM: Dystopia and Theories will no doubt feature prominently in my best of 2016 - Metallica not so much as it's a bit up and down. Dystopia is so consistent and bringing in Kiko Whatshisface was a smart move. I have barely listened to it since the first few days but it's one of the few albums from early in the year that I remember well.

I dropped off them pretty quick after Countdown and really hadn't kept up with recent Megadave until someone (Tim I think) insisted that I check out Endgame and yeah - that's great too. As a discography I think I would place it above Metallica's , even though it has more than it's fair share of clunkers.
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Post by: Samsara on November 28, 2016, 04:00:19 PM: I think Metallica's first four records, in comparison to Megadeth's first four records, are superior. And that is saying something, given Peace Sells and Rust in Peace. I think some songs on those two records are superior to the songs on the Metallica records (Lightning, Justice), but overall, as albums, the Met 4 vs. the Megs. 4, are superior.

That changed for me with Countdown. i thought from them on, Megadeth was the better band. Countdown destroyed the Black record, and Youthanasia was superior to Load, Cryptic is better than Re-Load.

After that, Metallica wasn't heard from again until 2003 with St. Anger, but Megs had already done the piss poor Risk, and then the started their own climb back to greatness. I thought 2004's The System Has Failed was far superior to anything Metallica did post-2003.
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2016, 04:09:04 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on November 28, 2016, 04:00:19 PM
. I thought 2004's The System Has Failed was far superior to anything Metallica did post-2003.

System rekindled my interest in Megadeth, after I basically gave up on them when Youthanasia came out. I have long since reconciled with Youthanasia.

I actually thought Countdown and TBA was a push. I wasn't in love with either and considered each to be low points (at the time) in each band's discography.
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2016, 04:17:31 PM: Speaking of Armored Saint, I'm sure mostly everyone has seen this. Popped up on my YouTube shuffle. This was the tour that convinced me. It's the '87 MTV show broadcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oshCge5Ppn4

Dave Prichard :hefdaddy
Plays a sweet solo in Chemical Euphoria at the 14:50 mark. Such a shame he had less than two and a half years to live. He was totally cool.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 29, 2016, 12:27:48 AM: Dystopia is up there for the best of 2016 for sure, great record. I think I'm one of the few that really liked Super Collider, so I'm not that surprised that Megadave can still turn out good songs.

For me Megadeth is far superior to Metallica, maybe/probably Metallica are more influential but on the whole I like Megadeth so much more. And after they did some clunkers (Risk, The World Needs A Hero), they came to back with The System Has Failed and kept that level for most of their records since then. Metallica never delivered again after Load (at least for me). And Dave is a far better guitar player than Kirk :biggrin:

That said, what are your opinions on the new Metallica? I know there's a Metallica thread but there's a little bit too much fanboy talk at the moment for me.

I didn't really expect much and I find the final product to be very mediocre, not St. Anger level bad but really nothing special. Most of the songs are still too long, the guitar solos are annoying, there's still no distinguishable bass to be heard, the kick drum sounds like shit. Some songs are nice but on the whole sound mostly uninspired. But then I never was that big of a Metallica fan and maybe I'm too critical.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 29, 2016, 12:32:22 AM: I would drop a few songs from the Metallica , but then some of my least favourite seem to be everyone else's faves (Dream No More for example). I think it's a better album than I expected but nowhere near as consistent as some of their peers.

Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 29, 2016, 12:27:48 AM
And Dave is a far better guitar player than Kirk :biggrin:

That's like saying that having your fingernails pulled is far better than waterboarding.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 29, 2016, 12:37:53 AM: Nah, I'm serious, Dave is a killer rhythm player and I find his solos quite enjoyable. Kirk on the other hand hasn't really vowed me from the start and now he's just so predictable and annoying in his playing.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 29, 2016, 02:19:19 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 29, 2016, 12:37:53 AM
Nah, I'm serious, Dave is a killer rhythm player and I find his solos quite enjoyable. Kirk on the other hand hasn't really vowed me from the start and now he's just so predictable and annoying in his playing.

I was only half serious and was referring to lead only.......I don't rate either of them. Dave is a very good rhythm player - no argument there.

I remember watching Dave play lead with the symphony orchestra and admiring the players in the orchestra for keeping their shit together. Truly the destruction of a symphony.
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Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2016, 04:29:11 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 28, 2016, 01:26:49 PM
So, 2016 was a great year. But one album that seems to have flown under the radar, maybe because it was released way back in January is Megadeth's Dystopia.

Not for me. I love it and spin it regularly and have since it has been released. Definitely one of the best of the year, along with Theories.
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2016, 05:43:37 AM: Awesome! It just hasn't come up a lot in conversation over the past year.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 29, 2016, 07:28:03 AM: I liked Dystopia even with Dave's reduced vocal ability. He used to sound like a stroppy teenager n his room, raging about how unfair life was with his parents and now he's the old man grumbling about the youth of today :biggrin:
Top 10 of the year for sure.
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Post by: Lepprador on November 29, 2016, 07:56:03 AM: Dystopia...compared to Super Collider and 13 it is outstanding, compared to Peace Sells and RIP and even Youthanasia not so much. I really wanted to like it, but it somehow left me cold.

Theories Of Flight on the other hand...still my aoty.
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Post by: Samsara on November 29, 2016, 08:00:29 AM: Re: Mustaine v. Hammett

To me, Mustaine is the superior lead player. No argument. Hammett is no slouch, but Dave has this...this angry sound when he solos that is all in his fingers. Kirk...I don't want to pile on the decades-old argument about the wah pedal, but it has become a crutch for a guy who doesn't need one. Kirk is a great player, but he does lack the attitude in his playing that Dave has. I like both, but I'd take Mustaine as a player every time.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 29, 2016, 11:26:26 PM: Drove past JJ on the highway today (R FLAIR)

(https://s11.postimg.org/upul3noxv/Capture.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 29, 2016, 11:48:21 PM: Woooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2016, 04:42:14 AM: Jason is in Oz? :metal

Oh, and Kirk plays like a fancy boy who is afraid of getting blisters on his fingers.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:03:18 AM: I was going to surprise you guys but the licence plate always gives me away!!
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2016, 01:59:01 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 27, 2016, 06:41:34 PM
so the Armored Saint/Queensryche concert was last night and it was awesome.

Was that Dallas? If so, it is up on Dime. Sounds pretty good too!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 03:17:11 PM: Wow..............biggest music news of 2016 right before Christmas.

NITRO are back together for a new album :2metal: :)

Too bad it'll be too late for the Best of 2016.

Speaking of which........if you guys have any albums you want featured in the next podcast (Best of 2016)- only a thought bubble at this point - then now's the time to PM me or post here. Any albums from 2016 that you love that aren't likely to be obvious to me would be awesome. I am flying through my 2016 releases as best I can but there is so much music out there that it makes the 1988 task pale in comparison.

And yes.............Flotsam & Jestsam will be included whether we like it or not :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2016, 05:49:48 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 03:17:11 PM
And yes.............Flotsam & Jestsam will be included whether we like it or not :lol

(https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/123/620/Oh-boy-here-we-go.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:03:51 PM: Nitro is the ultimate in helium metal!

Brent, I can only request you play "Light and Shade of Things" by Fates. That song will not only be the top of 2016 for me, but will rank quite nicely all time as well.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 06:07:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:03:51 PM
Nitro is the ultimate in helium metal!

Those guys are hilarious ( even if they're not in on it ) I never knew what O.F.R. stood for until many years later (didn't get into it enough to hear the lyrics obviously) . Out-fucking-rageous :rollin

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:03:51 PM

Brent, I can only request you play "Light and Shade of Things" by Fates.

Done.

Well there goes the first hour - anyone want something for the second ? :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:14:33 PM: wasn't Lita Ford married to the singer of Nitro at some point?. Or maybe they still are
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2016, 06:16:04 PM: F&J. Anthrax. You're probably not an Avantasia guy but the Ghostlights title track is awesome and should help you reach the Kiske quota.

Megadeth, Testament, Innerwish, Lords Of Black, Monument, Sinbreed, Metallica, Mystic Prophecy, Enbound, Plus live albums from Rainbow and Saxon. The Schenker live album blew though.

And don't forget The Astonishing!!!!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 06:18:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 30, 2016, 06:16:04 PM
F&J. Anthrax. You're probably not an Avantasia guy but the Ghostlights title track is awesome and should help you reach the Kiske quota.

Megadeth, Testament, Innerwish, Lords Of Black, Monument, Sinbreed, Metallica, Mystic Prophecy, Enbound, Plus live albums from Rainbow and Saxon. The Schenker live album blew though.

And don't forget The Astonishing!!!!

I like most of those incl. Ghostlights . I was trying to forget The Astonishing and now you've reminded me :lol

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:14:33 PM
wasn't Lita Ford married to the singer of Nitro at some point?. Or maybe they still are

Extremely messy split. He's a few sandwiches short of a cut lunch (to say the least) and he was awarded custody of their kids so I hate to think what Lita Ford's like these days.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:20:59 PM: Brent, you only have 68 songs from The Astonishing to choose from.
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2016, 06:21:41 PM: I really liked the Sinbreed, Innerwish, and Lords Of Black. They were pretty much under the radar, but all very enjoyable.

Oh, and can't forget Metal Church either. And Redemption. And Dream Theater. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 06:21:51 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:20:59 PM
Brent, you only have 68 songs from The Astonishing to choose from.

Tim wins - I will play The Hovering Sojourn at the end of the Fates track and that will even out to two regular songs in length.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:29:46 PM: Breathing Lightning by Anthrax should be included too!
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2016, 06:35:31 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:29:46 PM
Breathing Lightning by Anthrax should be included too!

Awesome tune. My fave on the album is Monster In The End. Love the Slayer style beginning.

Quote from: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 06:21:51 PM
Tim wins - I will play The Hovering Sojourn at the end of the Fates track and that will even out to two regular songs in length.

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Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2016, 06:57:15 PM: Some of my picks from this year;

Megadeth
Fates Warning
Primal Fear
Avantasia
Redemption
Be'lakor (hahaha, like that will be getting played)
Solution .45 (again hahahahaha)
Evergrey
Testament
Sunstorm
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2016, 06:58:47 PM: Oh, and Theocracy!!!
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Post by: Big Hath on November 30, 2016, 07:01:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 30, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on November 27, 2016, 06:41:34 PM
so the Armored Saint/Queensryche concert was last night and it was awesome.

Was that Dallas? If so, it is up on Dime. Sounds pretty good too!

yes indeed!
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Post by: Big Hath on November 30, 2016, 07:03:07 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 30, 2016, 06:57:15 PM
Solution .45 (again hahahahaha)

I've only listened through once so far, but I seem to recall a track or two that didn't have any growls. Maybe I'm misremembering?
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2016, 07:09:35 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 30, 2016, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 30, 2016, 06:57:15 PM
Solution .45 (again hahahahaha)

I've only listened through once so far, but I seem to recall a track or two that didn't have any growls. Maybe I'm misremembering?

Solution .25! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 07:53:13 PM: Everyone here except me seems to love the Anthrax (only had one listen) , so will revisit. I thought it was okay but that's about it after that initial listen. I think for bands like Anthrax and Metallica I would play a track whether I like them or not - releases from those bands are an event regardless.
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2016, 07:56:49 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 07:53:13 PM
Everyone here except me seems to love the Anthrax (only had one listen) , so will revisit. I think for bands like Anthrax and Metallica I would play a track whether I like them or not - releases from those bands are an event regardless.

The Anthrax is really good, as was Worship Music. The worst song on For All Kings was the first one, so if you started there (naturally), it doesn't properly represent the awesomeness of the whole album.

And the Metallica is just fine.

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:03:51 PM

Brent, I can only request you play "Light and Shade of Things" by Fates. That song will not only be the top of 2016 for me, but will rank quite nicely all time as well.

Just spun this track. So awesome!!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 08:01:41 PM: I also need to revisit Metallica (still their best since TBA for mine) and check the rating but any album like this where there is 3-4 "meh" songs makes it hard for me to rate it highly , even though I may love half the album.

Consistency is the key and that's where (IMHO) bands like Megadeth and Fates have it over Anthrax and Metallica in terms of their most recent efforts.

And when I said I would "play a track" I meant in the podcast , not that I stopped listening after one track :)
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 08:16:32 PM: I should also try and give the Metallica a good shot, but I just haven't been able to get into anything Metallica related since TBA. I thought Death Magnetic was pretty good, but it wasn't something that I went out of my way to listen to.

The Ronnie James Medley is probably my favorite thing Metallica has done since TBA.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2016, 09:34:49 PM: I was over the Metallica album almost instantly. It has very little to offer worth a relisten. Even DM was sadly much better overall, and it doesn't come close to anything else (except maybe St Anger, but I'm honestly undecided on that).
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Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 09:37:49 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2016, 09:34:49 PM
I was over the Metallica album almost instantly. It has very little to offer worth a relisten. Even DM was sadly much better overall, and it doesn't come close to anything else (except maybe St Anger, but I'm honestly undecided on that).

Yeah..........I liked parts of the Metallica but certainly wasn't in a rush to replay. Having said that I didn't piss myself laughing like I did the first time I heard the sound of St Anger ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 09:39:49 PM: I've never actually listened to St Anger in its entirety, but all the songs I've heard didn't do much for me.

Do you think the new one would have benefited from being condensed into one disc?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 09:41:46 PM: If I could drop the 3 tracks that I rate lowest then it would make a big difference , so yeah I suppose so.

There were some cool funnies doing the rounds about St Anger.

(https://i.imgur.com/PWcVZkL.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2016, 09:42:15 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2016, 09:34:49 PM
I was over the Metallica album almost instantly. It has very little to offer worth a relisten. Even DM was sadly much better overall, and it doesn't come close to anything else (except maybe St Anger, but I'm honestly undecided on that).

Yeah..........I liked parts of the Metallica but certainly wasn't in a rush to replay. Having said that I didn't piss myself laughing like I did the first time I heard the sound of St Anger ;D

Your avatar sums up my reaction to St Anger quite well. :lol
I was still in the denial phase when St Anger came out. First was the lead single, and I was like "well maybe the rest of the album will be better". Then they played half of the album on the radio and I still thought "maybe they're saving the best tracks". Then I heard the album and thought " but maybe they sound better on the live disc with better sound". Eventually reality sunk in. :lol
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Post by: Big Hath on November 30, 2016, 09:56:59 PM: a few of the better 2016 albums for me that I don't think were mentioned were Sunburst, Death Angel, Almanac, Witherscape (heh), Omnium Gatherum (HA!), and Myrath.

Brent, go back to those first two Eternal Champion songs if you haven't already and see if one of them warrants a spot.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 01, 2016, 12:50:37 AM: Brent, listen to Anthrax again, my first reaction was very meh but it grew mightily over time, one of the top ten records in 2016, maybe even top 3.

The new Metallica would vastly improve if it was shorter, ditch some songs and on others cut out a verse and/or a chorus repeat and it would be more concise. And one thing that St. Anger has in its favor, it has no Kirk Hammett faking to play lead guitar. I'm probably unfair and biased but I find his playing on Hardwired just atrocious. Normally I don't care for uninteresting guitar solos, but for whatever reason those really annoy me.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2016, 01:49:58 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 30, 2016, 09:56:59 PM
a few of the better 2016 albums for me that I don't think were mentioned were Sunburst, Death Angel, Almanac, Witherscape (heh), Omnium Gatherum (HA!), and Myrath.

Brent, go back to those first two Eternal Champion songs if you haven't already and see if one of them warrants a spot.

I've tried the Eternal Champion and found it bland and dated, and not in a good way :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 03:00:08 AM: What's an example of something that is bland and dated in a good way Paul? :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 01, 2016, 03:16:49 AM: Things can be dated in the good way, but bland is timeless. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2016, 04:46:46 AM: Still haven't listened to the Metallica. Heard a couple of songs and not in any rush but will get around to it. I think I'll lean towards Blob's opinion though, doesn't seem like there is much to offer.

I really like St Anger too...... :blush
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 04:58:43 AM: I think I have identified one thing that likely turned me off the Anthrax a bit . Listening to Monster At The End right now - good song (if a little "modern metal") and the vocals and lead guitar sound great in the mix but the rhythm guitar (a signature of classic Anthrax) is buried and missing their classic "crunch".

On to the title track now and the pre-chorus and chorus feels real flat to me.

Breathing Lightning is a bit more like it - and my favourite track first time around - but again the rhythm guitar sound is pissweak (in parts at least) compared to what I associate with Anthrax.

Blood Eagle Wings is another good song with the rhythm guitar buried - geez.

Decent album for sure but I think I'll be sticking with my rating around high 70's (EDIT - call it 83% after my second listen) but for me it's not in the same ballpark as Dystopia. Feels a bit lifeless/"unheavy" to me too which may be more to do with the production than the songs in the end. Will keep listening though and see how we go.

I still need to give the Bush era a proper go too. Massive Armored Saint fan but I never really felt the need to explore his Anthrax work based on the few songs I heard. Spreading The Disease is where Anthrax connected with me - and huge - but they never managed to repeat that for me.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2016, 05:41:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 03:00:08 AM
What's an example of something that is bland and dated in a good way Paul? :)

That Palace album recently, maybe the Cruzh and High Spirits?

Nothing outstanding, could have come out in the 80s but not terrible. :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 05:43:17 AM: Just being tongue in cheek - like Blob said I can understand something being good and dated - but bland and good ?

FWIW I thought the Palace was very good and the Cruzh was shite.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2016, 05:45:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 05:43:17 AM
Just being tongue in cheek - like Blob said I can understand something being good and dated - but bland and good ?

FWIW I thought the Palace was very good and the Cruzh was shite.

:biggrin:
Yeah I took it how you meant it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 01, 2016, 05:51:09 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 05:43:17 AM
Just being tongue in cheek - like Blob said I can understand something being good and dated - but bland and good ?

FWIW I thought the Palace was very good and the Cruzh was shite.

I get the Palace and the Cruzh confused. I remember them both sounding weak but listenable.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 01, 2016, 06:11:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 04:58:43 AM
I think I have identified one thing that likely turned me off the Anthrax a bit . Listening to Monster At The End right now - good song (if a little "modern metal") and the vocals and lead guitar sound great in the mix but the rhythm guitar (a signature of classic Anthrax) is buried and missing their classic "crunch".

Funny how that works, I think it sounded just fine and the rhythm guitars were heavy and crunchy enough for my liking. And the new lead player is imo a large improvement over Rob Caggiano, whose solos were kinda just there. Not bad but not memorable either.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 06:28:26 AM: I didn't really notice the lead playing other than noting that he can play (that's good and bad :lol ) and have never really associated Anthrax with great lead guitar anyway. Kirk Hammett on the other hand - I notice him. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 08:24:07 AM: Funnily enough I am now listening to a local band that sound a bit like Anthrax and their new release - blows For All Kings out of the fucking water :metal Will save it for the podcast and see how you guys think they compare. This is exactly how I wanted Anthrax to sound.
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Post by: Samsara on December 01, 2016, 08:27:18 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 30, 2016, 09:56:59 PM
a few of the better 2016 albums for me that I don't think were mentioned were Sunburst, Death Angel, Almanac, Witherscape (heh), Omnium Gatherum (HA!), and Myrath.

Brent, go back to those first two Eternal Champion songs if you haven't already and see if one of them warrants a spot.

The Death Angel record was good, but nowhere near as good to me as Dream Calls for Blood. That, to me, is the band's finest record. But DA are such a great band.

As for the Anthrax record, it's good, but not as good as the previous one. I'm a bigger Bush-era Anthrax fan (although I like Belladonna stuff), and I really think the last two records...can't shake the feeling Bush would have sung it better. But admittedly, there's some bias in there.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2016, 09:32:55 AM: Bush would be great in the current Anthrax. They seem a much more focused and truer band. Volume 8 has its moments and I just can't get into WCFYA. No life on that one. They really seemed to be searching for an identity during those years. That said I love the first two Bush era albums. Love them.

Sam, if I recall you're a big WCFYA guy. I actually spun it the other night and it still doesn't work for me.
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Post by: Samsara on December 01, 2016, 09:44:30 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2016, 09:32:55 AM
Bush would be great in the current Anthrax. They seem a much more focused and truer band. Volume 8 has its moments and I just can't get into WCFYA. No life on that one. They really seemed to be searching for an identity during those years. That said I love the first two Bush era albums. Love them.

Sam, if I recall you're a big WCFYA guy. I actually spun it the other night and it still doesn't work for me.

I am. I love all the Bush-era records, pretty much equally. Hard for to explain why WCFYA resonates. It is brutally heavy, and yet extremely melodic. I've heard Joey say he doesn't know why Anthrax felt his voice wasn't good for all those Bush-era Anthrax CDs...yet, Joey sounds awful on a song like "Only." And after that first try at it, they've never done Bush-era Thrax with him again. There's just an edge to those tunes, that needs an edgier voice, which Belladonna doesn't have.

To be honest, I think the last two records with Belladonna have probably been a lot more difficult than the band has admitted. They clearly want to play more brutal metal, but they've had to soften it a bit to fit Joey's higher and more melodic voice, and frankly, his personality. Both Bush and Belladonna have great energy, but it comes off differently in the music, and live.

I've seen both guys front Anthrax, and it's an entirely different experience. And I can hear that difference, even if I can't describe it well, on the records.

It won't be long before the Anthrax guys approach Bush, and mend fences, and try to pull a Heaven and Hell -- rebranding the Bush-era Thrax, and going out on that music. It'll happen. They love those tunes, as does Bush.

Got off on a tangent, sorry. But I can't really explain my love for WCFYA. I love all those Bush-era records about equally. None are "perfect," but they all have a bunch of songs I think are just killer.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 10:15:11 AM: Alllllllllllrighty then.

You guys are making me feel like I've missed out so today is a Bush era Anthrax marathon ;D
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Post by: Samsara on December 01, 2016, 10:32:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 10:15:11 AM
Alllllllllllrighty then.

You guys are making me feel like I've missed out so today is a Bush era Anthrax marathon ;D

You. Cannot kill. What doesn't die! :metal
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 01, 2016, 12:23:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 10:15:11 AM
Alllllllllllrighty then.

You guys are making me feel like I've missed out so today is a Bush era Anthrax marathon ;D

There are worse things one can do. :metal

I think Bush was the better singer in Anthrax but Sounds Of White Noise wasn't very good and Volume 8 was very uneven. Stomp 442 and WCFYA are absolutely killer records.

That said I think Joey's voice has improved mightily on the last two records. Not so high and sometimes screechy as he was back then, now he has a more mature voice with much more volume and deepness, for lack of a better word. Suits those heavy songs much better.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2016, 12:46:33 PM: Stomp 442 made The TAC Top 50. That album spoke directly to me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2016, 02:54:10 PM: I love WCFYA as well. It might have a bit of filler and may have benefited from a couple less songs, but still great overall.

The only Bush-Anthrax album I couldn't get into was Volume 8. The first three tunes are awesome, then it just seems to wander off and have no direction. I've tried to get into it, but no dice.

Stomp 442 is awesome!
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2016, 03:01:54 PM: When I discovered For All Kings earlier this year, I actually did go out and pick up Worship Music and a 2cd of WCFYA and TGOTE. Worship Music was good but I kept going back to FAK at the time. I had a listen to the two Bush ones and they didn't do much for me at the time, but might have to revisit them.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2016, 03:03:56 PM: I think Joey has only sang "Only" from the Bush era. Has anyone heard him sing anything else?
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Post by: Samsara on December 01, 2016, 03:09:21 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 01, 2016, 03:03:56 PM
I think Joey has only sang "Only" from the Bush era. Has anyone heard him sing anything else?

Nope. That's the only one he's done with the band, as far as I know. And I follow Bush-era Anthrax news pretty closely.

There are a few he could so for sure, but I think it's telling that ever since "Only" dropped off the set, we've not seen another Bush track. I'm telling you. At some point they will get together with Bush under a new moniker. Charlie just has to have a sit down with Bush and apologize for some of the BS.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2016, 03:15:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2016, 12:46:33 PM
Stomp 442 made The TAC Top 50. That album spoke directly to me.

I know you recommended this to me previously but it didn't do a thing for me. Other than Spreading The Disease and some (but nowhere near all) of Among, I've never been much of a fan. For All Kings is excellent though and a big part of why I like it is Joey. Very different voice from his classic days but excellent.
And yeah, they were never on my radar for lead playing.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2016, 03:21:23 PM: I was watching a bit of the Dan Nelson era last night on youtube. That was a strange transition from Bush-Joey-Bush-Joey with Dan in there for a bit. You knew it was only a matter of time before he was replaced again with one or the other.
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2016, 03:25:36 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 01, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2016, 12:46:33 PM
Stomp 442 made The TAC Top 50. That album spoke directly to me.

I know you recommended this to me previously but it didn't do a thing for me. Other than Spreading The Disease and some (but nowhere near all) of Among, I've never been much of a fan. For All Kings is excellent though and a big part of why I like it is Joey. Very different voice from his classic days but excellent.
And yeah, they were never on my radar for lead playing.

This basically sounds like my whole take on the band at the moment. Need to listen to more though and give them more of a chance.
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Post by: Samsara on December 01, 2016, 03:35:56 PM: jj - yeah, Dan Nelson...just no. Had some talent, but the band couldn't take yet another new vocalist. Such a weird footnote in the band;s history.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2016, 03:39:54 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on December 01, 2016, 03:35:56 PM
jj - yeah, Dan Nelson...just no. Had some talent, but the band couldn't take yet another new vocalist. Such a weird footnote in the band;s history.

Watching the footage did seem weird.......it looked like he was ready to kick the shit out of anybody, including the other members of Anthrax
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2016, 04:18:22 PM: :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 04:19:32 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 01, 2016, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on December 01, 2016, 03:35:56 PM
jj - yeah, Dan Nelson...just no. Had some talent, but the band couldn't take yet another new vocalist. Such a weird footnote in the band;s history.

Watching the footage did seem weird.......it looked like he was ready to kick the shit out of anybody, including the other members of Anthrax

To be fair , all their singers eventually want to kick the shit out of Anthrax.
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2016, 04:21:16 PM: Scott Ian I always thought looked like he needed a good punch in the face.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2016, 04:27:57 PM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2016, 05:52:51 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 01, 2016, 02:54:10 PM
The only Bush-Anthrax album I couldn't get into was Volume 8. The first three tunes are awesome, then it just seems to wander off and have no direction.

That's a great description. Catharsis is one of my favorite Bush era tracks.

Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 04:19:32 PM
To be fair , all their singers eventually want to kick the shit out of Anthrax.

:lol
So true!

Actually, I stumbled upon this interview the other day. Almost posted it, but with the Anthrax talk I figure now's a good time.
John Bush is so freaking cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6wJQnzvO3M
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 02, 2016, 01:16:20 AM: Anthrax and their singers is a long and complicated story and I don't blame Bush if he doesn't want anything to do with the guys. But it would be great nonetheless if they could pull it off. :metal But please don't piss of Joey in the meantime.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2016, 04:06:35 AM: Looking forward to this one...........hopefully they can match the debut.

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/placevendomeclosecd.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2016, 04:39:40 AM: You're optimistic posting that in this thread Brent. I liked the last one a lot and have really been a fan of all three. The lineup on this one is looking great too;

Lead Vocals - Michael Kiske
* Backing vocals - Dennis Ward, Michael Kiske // Additional Choirs on "Strong" by Alessandro Del Vecchio
* Bass - Dennis Ward
* Keyboards - Günter Werno
* Drums - Dirk Bruinenberg
* All Rhythm Guitars by Dennis Ward, except: "Welcome To The Edge", "Across The Times", "Close To The Sun", "Hearafter" - Rhythm Guitars by Uwe Reitenauer
* Guitar solo by Michael Klein on "Yesterday Is Gone", "Distant Skies", "Strong", "Breathing".
* Guitar solo by Uwe Reitenauer on "Close To the Sun"
* Guitar solo by Alfred Koffler on "Welcome To The Edge"
* Guitar solo by Magnus Karlsson on "Falling Star"
* Guitar solo by Gus G. on "Light Beyond The Dark"
* Guitar solo by Simone Mularoni on "Hearafter"
* Guitar solo by Mandy Meyer on "Helen"
* Guitar solo by Kai Hansen on "Riding The Ghost" and "Across The Times"

Of course the Frontiers puppet master had to get a look in too. ::)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2016, 04:51:09 AM: Plenty of Place Vendome would qualify as hard rock at the very least so I have no worries posting them here..................and Kiske :metal :D That's one of the reasons I love that debut so much- you have stuff bordering on metal (Cross The Line, Sign Of The Times) right next to some great AOR.

Bloody Alessandro can GTFO :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2016, 05:02:25 AM: Yeah, was just stirring, have no problem with them being here either. The second album was pure AOR but the last one had a few more heavier moments which I enjoyed. And with the likes of Gus G, Mularoni, Karlsson etc. seems like it could be a tad harder. Songwriters seem interesting too; Karlsson, Mularoni, Olaf Thorsen, Fabio Lione, Aldo LoNobile....this could be good.
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Post by: Samsara on December 02, 2016, 08:08:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2016, 04:19:32 PM

To be fair , all their singers eventually want to kick the shit out of Anthrax.

:hefdaddy

:rollin

Truer words...
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2016, 07:53:47 AM: I was just listening to Skunkworks by Bruce Dickinson. When compared to masterpieces Wedding and Accident, this is pretty much an irrelevant album. But there are some excellent songs on it and I would say that it's an underrated gem for sure
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Post by: Lowdz on December 03, 2016, 07:56:22 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 02, 2016, 05:02:25 AM
Yeah, was just stirring, have no problem with them being here either. The second album was pure AOR but the last one had a few more heavier moments which I enjoyed. And with the likes of Gus G, Mularoni, Karlsson etc. seems like it could be a tad harder. Songwriters seem interesting too; Karlsson, Mularoni, Olaf Thorsen, Fabio Lione, Aldo LoNobile....this could be good.

I'm a fan of Dennis Ward. He needs to get back with a great PC 69 album though.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 03, 2016, 09:24:51 AM: I love the Skunkworks album, it was something different for Bruce and there are a lot of great songs on it, Space Race, Inertia, Solar Confinement, Inside The Machine, Strange Death etc.

I would actually rank it second best behind Chemical Wedding.
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2016, 04:15:38 AM: Skunkworks is top 3 Bruce for me, behind CW and AOB of course. I think it's brilliant.

Quote from: Lowdz on December 03, 2016, 07:56:22 AM
I'm a fan of Dennis Ward. He needs to get back with a great PC 69 album though.

Yes, Ceremonial was awesome.
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2016, 05:14:28 PM: Classic Armored Saint footage of Aftermath:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N25RzGBgCio

:metal :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2016, 05:18:25 PM: Nice Tim :metal

I think Armored Saint must get more love here than on any other internet site :)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2016, 05:26:08 PM: That's why this is the number one thread in the history of threads!
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2016, 05:35:26 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2016, 05:26:08 PM
That's why this is the number one thread in the history of threads!

:rollin

So true!

Quote from: bl5150 on December 04, 2016, 05:18:25 PM
Nice Tim :metal

I think Armored Saint must get more love here than on any other internet site :)

I was just watching A Trip Through Red Times and that clip came up. Aftermath really shows how much talent that band actually had. Those early albums really needed a live setting to do them justice. You watch Dave and it really hits home. He went way too young.
The last time I saw him was in late '88 and he walked right by my friend and I and he was so cool. He told us that it was going to be a great show and he hoped we'd enjoy it. By that time, Jeff Duncan had joined the band and we had no idea what he was going through. They played Reign Of Fire and Spineless that night, a preview to Symbol Of Salvation.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2016, 05:45:41 PM: Symbol of Salvation should have taken the band to the next level
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2016, 06:17:44 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2016, 05:45:41 PM
Symbol of Salvation should have taken the band to the next level

Music wise it did, but popularity wise it did not. I remember reading an article in Kerrang right before SOS came out. They basically said that if it wasn't commercially successful, they'd be likely calling it a day.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2016, 07:18:29 PM: Yeah that's what I meant, popularity wise. It had some songs that should have gotten major radio play.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2016, 07:30:32 PM: One song from SoS that doesn't seem to get much mention but could well be my all time fave of theirs (perhaps in a tie with a couple of others) is Tainted Past.

And the few songs that I really liked on Sound Of White Noise sounded more like Armored Saint than Anthrax :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2016, 07:33:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 04, 2016, 07:30:32 PM
One song from SoS that doesn't seem to get much mention but could well be my all time fave of theirs (perhaps in a tie with a couple of others) is Tainted Past.

And the few songs that I really liked on Sound Of White Noise sounded more like Armored Saint than Anthrax :lol

Tainted Past might be one of my favorite tunes on the album. "...and let cooler heads prevail" :metal

I also love Burning Question. That tune totally rocks!

Hi Pro Glo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :metal

It actually took me a bit to get into ASOWN. But it has aged greatly!
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Post by: Lowdz on December 05, 2016, 01:24:08 AM: They just weren't on my radar back in the day, though I was aware of them. SoS is an absolute cracker though. Discovered because of you guys raving about it (and the Saint), so for that I thank you :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2016, 04:40:38 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 30, 2016, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 30, 2016, 06:57:15 PM
Solution .45 (again hahahahaha)

I've only listened through once so far, but I seem to recall a track or two that didn't have any growls. Maybe I'm misremembering?

I think just the ballad, The Curse That Keeps on Giving and the more melodic rocker, What Turns the Wheels, which may be my fav on the album.
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Post by: Samsara on December 05, 2016, 09:07:05 AM: Regarding Symbol of Salvation -- I agree, musically, it took the band to the next level. Such a great record from top to bottom. I really enjoyed that anniversary edition they released a few years back. Not a regular listen, but it was cool to hear those songs as demos and how they were brought to life.

It was a terrible tragedy that Dave Pritchard passed. And I think John going to Anthrax and Armored Saint going silent was a bummer for people who were fans back then (I only really discovered Armored Saint in the early 2000s through my wife). But I have to say, those non-Saint years really enabled Joey to blossom as a songwriter. When they came back with Revelation, it was pretty intense. He really wrote some great riffs. And even now, I think this last record, Win Hands Down, is the best thing they've done since Symbol, and that's pretty much all Joey musically, and all John's vocal melodies and lyrics.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 05, 2016, 12:04:16 PM: Off topic, but it's Tony Martin singing a Xmas song ffs :omg:

https://youtu.be/xAjTEPRDgpA
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 05, 2016, 04:13:00 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2016, 12:04:16 PM
Off topic, but it's Tony Martin singing a Xmas song ffs :omg:

https://youtu.be/xAjTEPRDgpA

Weird Christmas tune.

I'm still hoping that Iommi does another project of some kind with Martin in 2017
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Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2016, 04:53:07 PM: Wow - last week Randy Rhoads would've been 60 :'(
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2016, 06:16:07 PM: Damn!
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2016, 04:50:46 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 05, 2016, 12:04:16 PM
Off topic, but it's Tony Martin singing a Xmas song ffs :omg:

https://youtu.be/xAjTEPRDgpA

Dunno if I want to click on this or not.
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2016, 07:04:38 AM: You know you do! ;D

It's actually not bad. A shame Tony Martin has not been more active. He sounds pretty good here.
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2016, 08:23:44 AM: @ Hath!

https://metalreviews.com/reviews/album/9601
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Post by: Big Hath on December 07, 2016, 08:46:45 AM: :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on December 07, 2016, 09:30:16 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on December 07, 2016, 08:46:45 AM
:metal

I couldn't get past the first two songs
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 07, 2016, 03:26:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 07, 2016, 08:23:44 AM
@ Hath!

https://metalreviews.com/reviews/album/9601

That's some manly metal! Pretty pretty good.
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2016, 08:32:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 07, 2016, 07:04:38 AM
You know you do! ;D

It's actually not bad. A shame Tony Martin has not been more active. He sounds pretty good here.

He sounds cool, not my thing though. But yeah, it is a shame he isn't more active, his song on Magnus Karlsson's album was amazing too and he sounded fantastic.

But now, I'll match your Tony Martin and raise you a Blaze Bayley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYyOw9IZHI0

:biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 07, 2016, 08:41:29 PM: what in the blue hell was that lol
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Post by: Big Hath on December 12, 2016, 08:54:01 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on November 30, 2016, 09:56:59 PM
a few of the better 2016 albums for me that I don't think were mentioned were Sunburst, Death Angel, Almanac, Witherscape (heh), Omnium Gatherum (HA!), and Myrath.

Brent, go back to those first two Eternal Champion songs if you haven't already and see if one of them warrants a spot.

just took a listen to the latest Tygers of Pan Tang that came out just a month or two ago. My initial impression was that is was pretty solid with a couple of tracks I thought were really good.
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Post by: Samsara on December 12, 2016, 09:11:07 AM: re: Tony Martin -- I could have sworn I read multiple times this year that him and Iommi are planning on doing stuff together (or Iommi and he wanted to) after Sabbath called it a day.

Anyone else remember that?
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 12, 2016, 10:37:36 AM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on December 12, 2016, 09:11:07 AM
re: Tony Martin -- I could have sworn I read multiple times this year that him and Iommi are planning on doing stuff together (or Iommi and he wanted to) after Sabbath called it a day.

Anyone else remember that?

yeah that was reported a few months back and it's likely in regards to the Headless Cross, Tyr, Cross Purposes and Forbidden reissues. Those are the last ones left for the Sabbath back catalogue and I think Tony wanted a couple of new songs for them. It would be awesome if this actually happens, and it sounds like Iommi and Martin made amends. I don't think there was major heat between the two to begin with, so by all accounts this should happen. I would imagine that Iommi would like to work with Martin because there would be much less drama then working with Ozzy and should be easy going. There is still demand for those Martin albums and I would be getting the upcoming reissues for sure!
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Post by: Lowdz on December 12, 2016, 11:09:03 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on December 12, 2016, 08:54:01 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on November 30, 2016, 09:56:59 PM
a few of the better 2016 albums for me that I don't think were mentioned were Sunburst, Death Angel, Almanac, Witherscape (heh), Omnium Gatherum (HA!), and Myrath.

Brent, go back to those first two Eternal Champion songs if you haven't already and see if one of them warrants a spot.

just took a listen to the latest Tygers of Pan Tang that came out just a month or two ago. My initial impression was that is was pretty solid with a couple of tracks I thought were really good.

I really enjoyed it when I played it a couple of weeks ago. Put it on my Xmas list.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2016, 04:08:00 PM: Hmm - new Place Vendome

https://youtu.be/WN_BFSOxdck

The riffs are starting to get "samey" (if they weren't already) and not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses. Sounds like he has a mouth full of Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2016, 05:57:39 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2016, 04:08:00 PM
not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses. Sounds like he has a mouth full or Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.
:lol

It does. he needs some milk!

As awesome as the first PV album was, it is a suck project. The last album was so fucking bad Winger laughed at it.

This is actually better than anything I heard off the last album though.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2016, 08:13:28 PM: I'm glad I'm not the only one put off by the voice. :lol
It sounded fine up till then, although nothing new.
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2016, 08:20:45 PM: You don't like Oreos??
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2016, 08:22:32 PM: I like the taste of Oreos, but not the sound. :P
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2016, 08:26:47 PM: (https://assets7.classicfm.com/2016/36/music-theory-oreos-4-1473261476-view-1.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2016, 04:52:08 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2016, 05:57:39 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2016, 04:08:00 PM
not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses. Sounds like he has a mouth full or Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.
:lol

It does. he needs some milk!

As awesome as the first PV album was, it is a suck project. The last album was so fucking bad Winger laughed at it.

This is actually better than anything I heard off the last album though.

I thought it was really good.
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2016, 04:57:45 AM: The song is nothing new or exciting though really. Might work better in the album but certainly heard it all before.

Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2016, 04:08:00 PM
Sounds like he has a mouth full of Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.

Haha, good description Brent, but when I first heard it, I couldn't help but to think of this;

(https://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/atlasfugged/HELLO5.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 13, 2016, 08:43:56 AM: :rollin
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Post by: Lowdz on December 13, 2016, 02:47:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2016, 04:08:00 PM
Hmm - new Place Vendome

https://youtu.be/WN_BFSOxdck

The riffs are starting to get "samey" (if they weren't already) and not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses. Sounds like he has a mouth full of Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.

Good god that was horrific. Chorus is better but not enough for me to ever listen to Kiske trying to croon. That riff has been on every Frontiers album in the last four years. The Revolution Saints album used it several times :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 13, 2016, 10:15:42 PM: That doesn't even sound like Kiske at all. What the heck!!!

I can't believe I'm saying this, but that song isn't good and Kiske sounds................weird or bad, I'm not sure. I've only heard a couple PV songs and that was from the first album. I thought they sounded great, but this one, yikes
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Post by: Lowdz on December 14, 2016, 02:11:33 AM: It sounds like he's taking the piss out of Danzig :biggrin: which would be forgivable cos he's a tool :biggrin: but makes for a shit song.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 14, 2016, 04:50:56 AM: I'll just pretend I never listened to it lol
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2016, 03:27:26 PM: New Deep Purple track.

I like it.

https://bravewords.com/news/deep-purple-launch-official-lyric-video-for-new-song-time-for-bedlam-more-infinite-album-details-revealed
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 14, 2016, 07:58:44 PM: I gave up once it got to sucking tits. Fucking cringey.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 14, 2016, 08:11:12 PM: I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all. I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 14, 2016, 10:04:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 14, 2016, 08:11:12 PM
I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all. I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.

Then listen to the whole of Purpendicular right now. Better than most of the classic records.
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2016, 04:18:40 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 13, 2016, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2016, 04:08:00 PM
Hmm - new Place Vendome

https://youtu.be/WN_BFSOxdck

The riffs are starting to get "samey" (if they weren't already) and not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses. Sounds like he has a mouth full of Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.

Good god that was horrific. Chorus is better but not enough for me to ever listen to Kiske trying to croon. That riff has been on every Frontiers album in the last four years. The Revolution Saints album used it several times :lol

That's a great album.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 15, 2016, 04:32:28 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 14, 2016, 08:11:12 PM
I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all. I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.

I really enjoy the Perfect Strangers album, and the rest of the Blackmore albums following it. Morse Purple hasn't done anything for me.
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2016, 04:52:13 AM: That Deep Purple song wasn't bad. Nice instrumental section.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 06:18:51 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 15, 2016, 04:32:28 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 14, 2016, 08:11:12 PM
I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all. I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.

I really enjoy the Perfect Strangers album, and the rest of the Blackmore albums following it. Morse Purple hasn't done anything for me.

It's blasphemous to many guitarists but I always felt Morse is among the most overrated guitarists out there. I've been following him since early days and bought solo albums like High Tension Wires and Southern Steel on release , so it's not as if I haven't tried. He has his moments (did a good job on Kansas' Power) but overall I find his playing quite "unmelodic" - many of his solo runs are more chromatic noise than melody to me. Didn't impress me live with Purple either.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 15, 2016, 07:59:22 AM: I think the same of Blackmore, some nice riffs but his solos more or less leave me cold and I therefore find him overrated.

Steve Morse is good when he's in a real band and not the band leader and sole writer imo. From his solo albums only The Introduction is great, the rest has too many fillers for my liking. I quite like him in Deep Purple, and as I said before, Purpendicular is a killer record. Ted The Mechanic has moore groove than most of the DP classics and Sometimes I Feel Like Screaming may be my favorite DP song.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 15, 2016, 08:05:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 15, 2016, 04:32:28 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 14, 2016, 08:11:12 PM
I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all. I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.

I really enjoy the Perfect Strangers album, and the rest of the Blackmore albums following it. Morse Purple hasn't done anything for me.

It's blasphemous to many guitarists but I always felt Morse is among the most overrated guitarists out there. I've been following him since early days and bought solo albums like High Tension Wires and Southern Steel on release , so it's not as if I haven't tried. He has his moments (did a good job on Kansas' Power) but overall I find his playing quite "unmelodic" - many of his solo runs are more chromatic noise than melody to me. Didn't impress me live with Purple either.

Deep Purple without Blackmore isn't even Deep Purple imo. Morse totally ruined seeing Deep Purple for me (luckily I wasn't there to see Purple). You're a pops nostalgia band, at least try to play the songs the way they're supposed to be. I've never seen someone so happy to play the music so wrong.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 15, 2016, 10:12:21 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on December 15, 2016, 07:59:22 AM
I think the same of Blackmore, some nice riffs but his solos more or less leave me cold and I therefore find him overrated.

Steve Morse is good when he's in a real band and not the band leader and sole writer imo. From his solo albums only The Introduction is great, the rest has too many fillers for my liking. I quite like him in Deep Purple, and as I said before, Purpendicular is a killer record. Ted The Mechanic has moore groove than most of the DP classics and Sometimes I Feel Like Screaming may be my favorite DP song.

No way is Blackmore overrated. He is one of the originals with Page, Hendrix, Beck, Iommi, Clapton etc.

Morse doesn't seem to be a writer. Very good guitarist but not a songwriter.
Those two songs you reference are good but don't stand up to the classic DP stuff.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 15, 2016, 11:16:17 AM: Maybe overrated is the wrong term. There's no denying that Blackmore was and probably still is highly influential. It's just that his playing is not always for my personal taste. I like the classic Purple stuff and most of the early Rainbow too but a lot of Blackmore's solo playing just doesn't connect with me. And he's a dickhead :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on December 15, 2016, 12:42:52 PM: He's certainly a dick head :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2016, 01:33:53 PM: Morse has a unique, interesting style, but I was never a huge fan of him either. Same could be said about Blackmore I guess.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 05:46:21 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 15, 2016, 04:52:13 AM
That Deep Purple song wasn't bad. Nice instrumental section.

Yeah - I quite like that. Nice retro vibe without sounding contrived.
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Post by: TAC on December 15, 2016, 05:50:49 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 05:46:21 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 15, 2016, 04:52:13 AM
That Deep Purple song wasn't bad. Nice instrumental section.

Yeah - I quite like that. Nice retro vibe without sounding contrived.
Ha!
I liked everything about the song except for the garbled keyboard part in the middle.

I sampled Now What and I thought it was terrible. This was much better.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 06:12:44 PM: I know a bloke who knows a bloke who knows a bloke who has a review copy of the Armored Saint Carpe Noctum release (unusually it is in full quality audio, so he says anyway) - catching up with said bloke tonight at my sister's 40th so guess who might have Armored Saint playing at their birthday ? :lol Some bloke called bl5150 is in charge of the music :yarr

EDIT: Wow....it's not due for release until late Feb 2017 , so it's out there a lot earlier than I normally get to hear things (maybe a week or two before release)
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Post by: TAC on December 15, 2016, 06:33:00 PM: That's a lot of blokes!
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 15, 2016, 06:33:57 PM: Let us know what you think asap Brent!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 06:37:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 15, 2016, 06:33:00 PM
That's a lot of blokes!

We're very blokey in these parts .

Great little playlist we have up for my sis too - she wanted some 80's pop but the playlist is mostly rock and includes Whitesnake, Gunners, Jovi, Europe, Aerosmith, Metallica, Scatterbrain, Def leppard, Journey, Gary Moore,Van Halen, Kiss , Skid Row, Cinderella, Roxus, Cheap Trick, Warrant, Extreme, Faith No More .........and Dream Theater :metal That's about as good as you'll get outside of a gathering of metalheads for a metal party :lol

It'll be one of those rare things - a party I actually want to be at and at which I don't feel like using ear plugs.

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 15, 2016, 06:33:57 PM
Let us know what you think asap Brent!

Will do.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 15, 2016, 06:48:51 PM: That sounds like a great party!!
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Post by: TAC on December 15, 2016, 06:54:04 PM: I'm sure Ben will enjoy that!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 10:38:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 15, 2016, 06:54:04 PM
I'm sure Ben will enjoy that!

Unfortunately it's a licensed venue , no kids :-\ He would've been the life of the party.

Speaking of things that Ben won't be hearing - a nice new song from Steel Panther :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xss9gL4_ZI
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 16, 2016, 12:29:52 AM: Brent I listened to that Steel Panther song. I really don't see any reason why Ben can't listen to that
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 16, 2016, 12:37:13 AM: Sounds kid friendly to me.

I'm surprised I managed to miss that. I follow their regular Youtube channel, but not the VEVO one, must have missed it on FB. Not bad.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 16, 2016, 03:31:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 06:37:27 PM
Great little playlist we have up for my sis too - she wanted some 80's pop but the playlist is mostly rock and includes Whitesnake, Gunners, Jovi, Europe, Aerosmith, Metallica, Scatterbrain, Def leppard, Journey, Gary Moore,Van Halen, Kiss , Skid Row, Cinderella, Roxus, Cheap Trick, Warrant, Extreme, Faith No More .........and Dream Theater :metal That's about as good as you'll get outside of a gathering of metalheads for a metal party :lol

It'll be one of those rare things - a party I actually want to be at and at which I don't feel like using ear plugs.

Why is no-one throwing parties like these in my area?

Anyway have fun!!!
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Post by: Lepprador on December 16, 2016, 03:31:25 AM: Just listened to the Armored Saint live album. Is it just me, or is the mix way too bass heavy ?

Cool band and all, they're just a little bit inconsistent.
Every album has its wealthy share of very average tracks. But that's something they have in common with other favorite bands of mine.

Can someone explain me the reasoning why there are only 8 songs ?
Because "Saints Will Conquer" was short as well and it's their schtick ?
Or could they only afford to record one night and these 8 tracks were the only ones without major mistakes ?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2016, 04:29:48 AM: Quote from: Lepprador on December 16, 2016, 03:31:25 AM
Just listened to the Armored Saint live album. Is it just me, or is the mix way too bass heavy ?

Perhaps a bit - possibly also a symptom of what I thought was a rhythm guitar sound lacking punch. The rest sounded pretty good.

This is a hard one to rate so I will break it down.

Performances: 9/10 - Bush sounds great as per usual

Sound Quality : 8/10

Song Selection/Song Numbers: 6.5/10 - not enough of my faves and not enough songs full stop.

Overall maybe 8/10 but it's really better than that but for the markdown for the songs/length. I thought the song Win Hands Down was better live than on the studio album too.
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Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2016, 04:48:07 AM: New Firewind;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF_nYCnVjcM

Not fuckin' bad.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2016, 05:00:09 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 16, 2016, 04:48:07 AM
New Firewind;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF_nYCnVjcM

Not fuckin' bad.

I like it better than pretty much anything on Gus's solo stuff of late. It's certainly my style of power metal but it's about as original as the latest reality TV shocker. I can listen to it no probs but not likely to come back to it.
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Post by: TAC on December 17, 2016, 10:07:57 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 16, 2016, 04:29:48 AM
Quote from: Lepprador on December 16, 2016, 03:31:25 AM
Just listened to the Armored Saint live album. Is it just me, or is the mix way too bass heavy ?

Perhaps a bit - possibly also a symptom of what I thought was a rhythm guitar sound lacking punch. The rest sounded pretty good.

This is a hard one to rate so I will break it down.

Performances: 9/10 - Bush sounds great as per usual

Sound Quality : 8/10

Song Selection/Song Numbers: 6.5/10 - not enough of my faves and not enough songs full stop.

Overall maybe 8/10 but it's really better than that but for the markdown for the songs/length. I thought the song Win Hands Down was better live than on the studio album too.

So looking at the short tracklist:
“Win Hands Down” (Live)
“March Of The Saint” (Live)
“Stricken By Fate” (Live)
“Last Train Home” (Live)
“Mess” (Live)
“Aftermath” (Live)
“Left Hook From Right Field” (Live)
“Reign Of Fire” (Live)

For a short list, it's not a bad cross section. I'm so glad there is now an official live version of Aftermath. Its omission from Saints Will Conquer was a major issue with me. I'm very happy they didn't waste a track on Can U Deliver.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 17, 2016, 12:55:19 PM: An 8/10 Brent rating Armored Saint live album is still good news!
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Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2016, 04:14:26 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 16, 2016, 05:00:09 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 16, 2016, 04:48:07 AM
New Firewind;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF_nYCnVjcM

Not fuckin' bad.

I like it better than pretty much anything on Gus's solo stuff of late. It's certainly my style of power metal but it's about as original as the latest reality TV shocker. I can listen to it no probs but not likely to come back to it.

I was a big fan of Gus' first solo album but his second one was pretty bad. Definitely not original but it really seems the days of decent yet original metal are really numbered.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 18, 2016, 07:09:05 PM: My sister's 40th birthday cake from the weekend , which I expect you guys would approve of. Her big brother was very influential and the cake reflects her 3 main loves - her footy team (top) , her hard rock and metal (middle) and her grog (lower).

Her name is Simone , hence the "Sim Beam" ;D

(https://s27.postimg.org/k0c8b4vvn/sim_cake.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on December 18, 2016, 07:17:48 PM: Awesome!!! Did Ben attack the bottom of the cake?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 18, 2016, 07:41:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 18, 2016, 07:17:48 PM
Awesome!!! Did Ben attack the bottom of the cake?

Ben's not a big one for cake. I just didn't think to take a photo on my phone until after it had been attacked. I was too busy setting up the music at the start of the night (which was running off my phone and sound system)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 18, 2016, 07:59:06 PM: Sweet!! (Literally)
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Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2016, 04:04:13 AM: What an incredible looking cake.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 19, 2016, 10:44:16 AM: Great cake. Pass on my birthday wishes to your sis.
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Post by: TAC on December 19, 2016, 04:13:27 PM: So THIS is the Whitesnake lineup?
Who are these people?

David Coverdale - vocals
Reb Beach - guitars, backing vocals
Joel Hoekstra - guitars, backing vocals
Michael Devin - bass, harmonica, backing vocals
Tommy Aldridge - drums
Michele Luppi - keyboards, backing vocals

I know Luppi was in Vision Divine and is an amazing vocalist. I feel bad for him here. And obviously I know Aldridge.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 19, 2016, 04:24:13 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 19, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
So THIS is the Whitesnake lineup?
Who are these people?

David Coverdale - vocals
Reb Beach - guitars, backing vocals
Joel Hoekstra - guitars, backing vocals
Michael Devin - bass, harmonica, backing vocals
Tommy Aldridge - drums
Michele Luppi - keyboards, backing vocals

I know Luppi was in Vision Divine and is an amazing vocalist. I feel bad for him here. And obviously I know Aldridge.

Joel Hoekstra was with night ranger until recently. Great player. Released a really good album last year.
I think you know Reb Beach...
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Post by: TAC on December 19, 2016, 04:34:24 PM: I thought Night Ranger was Jeff Watson and Brad Gillis. Is Night Ranger even a thing?
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 19, 2016, 04:46:49 PM: I remember Reb Beach in Dokken a few years back.

I've never heard of Luppi or Devin.

The last new material I heard from Whitesnake was the Good to be Bad album from 2008. I thought that was a pretty solid disc, but never really felt like playing it much.
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Post by: TAC on December 19, 2016, 07:32:01 PM: Reb Beach was in Dokken too??

JJ, Luppi is a fantastic vocalist. Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TYUQN5ULcc
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Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2016, 04:32:42 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 19, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
So THIS is the Whitesnake lineup?
Who are these people?

David Coverdale - vocals
Reb Beach - guitars, backing vocals
Joel Hoekstra - guitars, backing vocals
Michael Devin - bass, harmonica, backing vocals
Tommy Aldridge - drums
Michele Luppi - keyboards, backing vocals

I know Luppi was in Vision Divine and is an amazing vocalist. I feel bad for him here. And obviously I know Aldridge.

You must know Reb Beach? He has been in the lineup since 2002.

I have a a Vision Divine DVD and a couple of albums with Luppi on them, great singer. With him and Reb in the band, Dave will basically sing nothing.

Quote from: TAC on December 19, 2016, 07:32:01 PM
Reb Beach was in Dokken too??

Played on the album Erase the Slate and the fantastic Live from the Sun DVD.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 20, 2016, 11:51:44 AM: As a long time Winger fan Tim surely knows Reb Beach. :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on December 20, 2016, 02:35:04 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on December 20, 2016, 11:51:44 AM
As a long time Winger fan Tim surely knows Reb Beach. :biggrin:

That's certainly what I was getting at. And yes, Reb was in Dokken at one time.

Night Ranger was originally Watson and Gillis but Hoekstra replaced Watson a few years ago. And yes they are a thing. Somewhere in California album from a few years ago was excellent.
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Post by: TAC on December 20, 2016, 02:50:24 PM: Reb who? I don't know what you guys are talking about! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 20, 2016, 05:17:17 PM: If anyone is struggling for ideas for Xmas , then this is released today . Just in time.............phew :lol

The Bret Michaels emoji and lyric keyboard will combine Michaels's most famous lyrics, sayings and phrases from both his music and TV career, along with various illustrations of the singer sure to suit the users every emotion, turning their thoughts into Michaels's best-known lyrics and phrases. :metal
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Post by: TAC on December 20, 2016, 05:34:18 PM: I heard the Deluxe Version comes with a bandana.
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Post by: TAC on December 20, 2016, 06:08:40 PM: (https://image.blingee.com/images14/content/output/2007/12/23/316215805_3da8f482.gif)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 20, 2016, 06:38:02 PM: Merry Christmas to you too Tim :metal

(https://s28.postimg.org/j7zq2pgyl/winger_xmas.jpg)

Ditto to all the dudes who make this a killer thread .....
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 20, 2016, 06:48:47 PM: :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on December 20, 2016, 07:12:10 PM: (https://us.123rf.com/450wm/sidelnikov/sidelnikov1511/sidelnikov151100780/48796472-portrait-of-handsome-caucasian-man-with-grey-beard-standing-on-white-background-man-covering-his-eye.jpg?ver=6)
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Post by: wolfking on December 21, 2016, 04:37:36 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 20, 2016, 06:38:02 PM
Merry Christmas to you too Tim :metal

(https://s28.postimg.org/j7zq2pgyl/winger_xmas.jpg)

Ditto to all the dudes who make this a killer thread .....

:heart :heart :heart

Quote from: bl5150 on December 20, 2016, 05:17:17 PM
If anyone is struggling for ideas for Xmas , then this is released today . Just in time.............phew :lol

The Bret Michaels emoji and lyric keyboard will combine Michaels's most famous lyrics, sayings and phrases from both his music and TV career, along with various illustrations of the singer sure to suit the users every emotion, turning their thoughts into Michaels's best-known lyrics and phrases. :metal

WTF?! How did Gene Simmons not get on this first?
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Post by: Lowdz on December 21, 2016, 04:38:27 AM: And a happy Mithras Day to all my DTF friends :biggrin: :heart

🎅☃️❄️
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 21, 2016, 06:12:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 20, 2016, 06:38:02 PM
Merry Christmas to you too Tim :metal

(https://s28.postimg.org/j7zq2pgyl/winger_xmas.jpg)

Ditto to all the dudes who make this a killer thread .....

Is it already that time of the year?

Happy/Rockin' Christmas to you all :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on December 21, 2016, 06:23:33 PM: Could be an interesting development with the podcast. I have just stumbled onto a ripper album released in 2016 - the key artist is also a current member of a biggish melodic hard rock band that a few of us like around here. I purchased the album from his website and left him a note to say that I loved it and that I'd feature him in a tiny little podcast we do and he wrote back and said "how about an interview?" :omg:

I wouldn't know where to start but if I can get the right set up in Skype or something, the questions (and balls) together we might have our first interview in the next podcast.
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Post by: TAC on December 21, 2016, 07:05:04 PM: Define "ripper".

Is it a heavy album from a wuss? ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on December 21, 2016, 07:08:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2016, 07:05:04 PM

Is it a heavy album from a wuss? ;D

You might call his regular band wussy , although you are a fan of at least one of the band members. And yes........this album is heavy.

"Ripper" is slang (possibly just in Oz ) for awesome, amazing..............similar to saying "a killer release." In this case = likely in my top five for the year.
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Post by: TAC on December 21, 2016, 07:12:45 PM: Hmm....now that's something to chew on..
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 21, 2016, 10:52:23 PM: I can't believe Brent is going to interview Kip Winger!!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 01:10:32 AM: I'm going to ask him if he'll send Tim a signed Xmas photo ;)
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Post by: Lowdz on December 22, 2016, 01:35:04 AM: :lol :biggrin:
Great news. There's a void now Classic Rock mag has gone... :biggrin:

I watched enough Neighbours back in the day to know what ripper means!

You can't keep a ripper album to yourself like that Brent. You know what to do ;)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 01:36:11 AM: Neighbours is pretty ordinary Paul :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on December 22, 2016, 03:19:15 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 01:36:11 AM
Neighbours is pretty ordinary Paul :biggrin:

I was too young to know any better, and it always had some cute Aussie girls :heart
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Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 03:23:26 AM: I'll pay that......Margot Robbie :drool:
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Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2016, 05:09:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 21, 2016, 06:23:33 PM
Could be an interesting development with the podcast. I have just stumbled onto a ripper album released in 2016 - the key artist is also a current member of a biggish melodic hard rock band that a few of us like around here. I purchased the album from his website and left him a note to say that I loved it and that I'd feature him in a tiny little podcast we do and he wrote back and said "how about an interview?" :omg:

I wouldn't know where to start but if I can get the right set up in Skype or something, the questions (and balls) together we might have our first interview in the next podcast.

Sounds interesting Brent indeed. Give us a hint?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 05:29:21 AM: I thought I did :lol

Hmm - I want there to be some surprises for you guys in the podcast :P

OK - the album is an instrumental and , although I wouldn't call him a huge name in his own right , he's a member of one of the bigger name bands in melodic rock. The band would've had plenty of discussion in the "wuss thread" as Tim would call it.
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Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2016, 05:39:20 AM: I got nothing and am too tired to look. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 05:45:38 AM: Good :lol It'll be a nice surprise when we get to the podcast.

geez there's a ridiculous number of albums per year these days. Makes the 80's look slow.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 22, 2016, 05:46:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 05:45:38 AM
Good :lol It'll be a nice surprise when we get to the podcast.

geez there's a ridiculous number of albums per year these days. Makes the 80's look slow.

Quality, not quantity. :hat
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Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 06:00:49 AM: Yep. I thought I had to work hard back then to find the quality but now it's whole new level. The quality is still there but the chances of finding all/most of it are much lower now as there's so much more average stuff getting released (both on labels and independent). Only so much time in the day.

One day I will tire of it and return to the JJ method - classics all day every day .
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 22, 2016, 06:06:22 AM: It's a lot easier to record an album these days and get it out there, which is both a good and a bad thing. It's great that more artists have the opportunity to create music, but it also means there's more music than ever to sift through to find the stuff you like. It was also much harder to find the obscure gems back then before internet. It must have been horrible! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 06:21:11 AM: Well before the internet there were basically 3 methods for me:

- mags
- CD shop trawling . Bought a few based on covers no doubt.
- networking

I had two main guys helping me out back in the day. One guy was a manager of some local bands and a shareholder in Now&then Records (similar to Frontiers back then) and he used to put up with me and send me mix tapes of obscure bands he knew. The other was Andrew (pre- mr.com) who used to run a mail order CD store from his home and his catalogues were invaluable . He also used to send me stuff to try - keep what I like and send the rest back , which was very cool.
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Post by: TAC on December 22, 2016, 08:11:37 AM: Sometimes, when I was a kid, even if I blind bought a shitty album (Rox, Tsunami, Tarzen...) I always seemed to find something decent about it, mainly because of the investment I made. And extra cash wasn't exactly flowing back then.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 22, 2016, 08:26:31 AM: I know that too, because I spent my hard earned money I always found something to like. Maybe not much, but always something, a song, a solo etc. Nowadays I don't give things I don't like that much of a chance.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 22, 2016, 02:48:45 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 22, 2016, 06:00:49 AM
Yep. I thought I had to work hard back then to find the quality but now it's whole new level. The quality is still there but the chances of finding all/most of it are much lower now as there's so much more average stuff getting released (both on labels and independent). Only so much time in the day.

One day I will tire of it and return to the JJ method - classics all day every day .

It's a proven method! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2016, 03:33:31 PM: (https://www.immusicmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/festivus-7113951.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 22, 2016, 03:42:23 PM: Welcome, newcomers. The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances. I got a lot of problems with you people and now you're gonna hear about it.
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Post by: TAC on December 23, 2016, 07:17:20 PM: Bravewords #9!
https://bravewords.com/news/bravepicks-2016-flotsam-and-jetsam-s-flotsam-and-jetsam-9
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Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2016, 08:34:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 23, 2016, 07:17:20 PM
Bravewords #9!
https://bravewords.com/news/bravepicks-2016-flotsam-and-jetsam-s-flotsam-and-jetsam-9

They had to get to someone I had heard of eventually :lol Slight exaggeration but still.........
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Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2016, 04:34:09 AM: Bravewords always seem to be geared towards the more brutal stuff. Will be interesting to see the rest of the list though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 24, 2016, 08:13:04 AM: I used to always buy the Bravewords magazine in the late 90s early 2000s. It was cool because it always came with a cd with various artists on it, so I heard about a lot of new bands that way.

It did seem to lean towards brutal/very heavy bands.

But Mitch Lafon knows his stuff, dare I say he might have more rock knowledge than Brent. I'll call it a tie lol
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Post by: Lowdz on December 24, 2016, 01:08:17 PM: Mick Zane, guitarist with Malice has died, age 58. RIP.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 24, 2016, 01:46:57 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 24, 2016, 01:08:17 PM
Mick Zane, guitarist with Malice has died, age 58. RIP.

As did Rick Parfitt of Status Quo :-\

Merry Xmas and GTFO 2016.
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Post by: TAC on December 24, 2016, 01:49:39 PM: Wow! I saw that Parfitt was in the hospital. WTF??
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Post by: TAC on December 24, 2016, 01:59:31 PM: Merry Christmas to the dudes from Australia! Morning already!!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 24, 2016, 03:26:19 PM: And Merry Christmas to you, once you guys catch up. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2016, 08:57:34 PM: Merry Xmas boys!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 25, 2016, 12:31:30 AM: Merry Christmas to my Hard Rock/Metal amigos!
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Post by: Bolsters on December 25, 2016, 12:37:48 AM: :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 01:55:18 AM: Merry Xmas guys (from Ben too).

(https://joecephus.com/wp-content/uploads/Dave-Mustaine-ChristmasSwea.jpg)

38 (or 100F) in the shade here - hottest Xmas in 20 years.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 25, 2016, 02:30:30 AM: Merry Christmas to all of you. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 25, 2016, 02:32:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 01:55:18 AM
38 (or 100F) in the shade here - hottest Xmas in 20 years.

28 and cloudy with rain up until 1pm up here. I loved it to be honest. Would hate to be there with those temps Brent.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 25, 2016, 03:08:45 AM: 33C here today, coolest day for the next week. Got 3 days in a row over 40C to look forward to in a few days. Can't wait for 2016 to be over. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 25, 2016, 03:36:24 AM: Still 2 months of summer! Then March is basically summer temps here anyway. >:(
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 25, 2016, 04:45:02 AM: I still find the thought of christmas in summertime strange. We don't regularly have snow (although my girls really hope for it each year) but it's winter and mildly cold.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 25, 2016, 04:50:50 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on December 25, 2016, 04:45:02 AM
I still find the thought of christmas in summertime strange. We don't regularly have snow (although my girls really hope for it each year) but it's winter and mildly cold.

It feels strange to me too, because even here the image of Christmas constantly seen in advertising and shows is that of snow. It's as much a characteristic of Christmas as Santa and reindeer and the tree. Unfortunately, much like Santa and the flying reindeer, snow is just a myth for us Australians. :lol So we have to just do shit our way.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 25, 2016, 05:59:31 AM: Merry Christmas everyone :metal

We never get snow where I live. Ever. Just rain, and then more rain. When the next ice age comes it will still just rain here :biggrin:
Just finished putting all the kids' stuff together and waiting for dinner.

Just had a go with the Sanpera foot controlling my other half got me. Wah wah and whammy pedal overload. I could join Metallica :biggrin:
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 25, 2016, 07:05:52 AM: Some days ago it was even snowing in the sahara:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/20/stunning-photos-capture-rare-snow-sahara-desert/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/20/stunning-photos-capture-rare-snow-sahara-desert/)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 25, 2016, 07:46:59 AM: I don't think the Aussie boys could even begin to wrap their heads around a winter day in Winnipeg, or in Canada.

It's been getting to -30 C or -22 F. But it's actually even colder than that with the windchill.

But then our summers can get +35 C or +95 F, and just crazy hot.

When it comes to weather, we are legit even Steven.

But as much as the Aussie boys might want to, do not go on vacation to Winnipeg in the winter. I actually just saw Jerry Seinfeld last week and the weather was the first thing he mentioned, he couldn't get over the cold.
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Post by: TAC on December 25, 2016, 12:06:51 PM: JJ, even from Boston I'll give you winter props!
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 25, 2016, 12:11:44 PM: Hell, I'll give you props from here. It's +2C, and going up to +10 tomorrow. But, we still have a foot or so of snow on the ground

Merry xmas to my peeps I haven't already reached out to over email/FB. Make it a great one.
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Post by: TAC on December 25, 2016, 12:14:53 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 25, 2016, 12:11:44 PM
Hell, I'll give you props from here. It's +2C, and going up to +10 tomorrow. But, we still have a foot or so of snow on the ground

Merry xmas to my peeps I haven't already reached out to over email/FB. Make it a great one.

Sent you a Christmas shout out on Spotify.

And WTF is 2C? English please!
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Post by: Bolsters on December 25, 2016, 06:50:30 PM: The English use celsius, it's already in english. :laugh:
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 25, 2016, 07:03:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 25, 2016, 07:46:59 AM
I don't think the Aussie boys could even begin to wrap their heads around a winter day in Winnipeg, or in Canada.

Nope, sure couldn't. Hell, people here start up their fireplaces once the weather gets below 20C. It's embarrassing. :lol

Quote from: Bolsters on December 25, 2016, 06:50:30 PM
The English use celsius, it's already in english. :laugh:

EVERYONE uses Celsius. :lol Except 'Murica. They seem to struggle to keep up with the rest of the world when it comes to numbers and measurements. :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 07:24:35 PM: Hope you guys all had a great day.

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 25, 2016, 07:46:59 AM
I don't think the Aussie boys could even begin to wrap their heads around a winter day in Winnipeg, or in Canada.

It's been getting to -30 C or -22 F. But it's actually even colder than that with the windchill.

But then our summers can get +35 C or +95 F, and just crazy hot.

When it comes to weather, we are legit even Steven.

But as much as the Aussie boys might want to, do not go on vacation to Winnipeg in the winter. I actually just saw Jerry Seinfeld last week and the weather was the first thing he mentioned, he couldn't get over the cold.

I agree with pretty much all of that Jay - we have no idea what real cold is. The lowest temp I have ever experienced would be just below zero (C) and I have never seen snow. Having said that we do have snow fields only a 90 min drive away where it gets down to -15 C

The only thing I would differ on a bit is your definition of crazy hot. It's 35 here at the moment and I've just been out for a kick of the football with Ben :lol

I'll relate a couple of fairly recent events that we would call crazy hot............at the opposite end of the spectrum to your extreme cold.

Summer 2014 : 4 consecutive days with max temps of 41-45C . At no time (day or night) did the temp drop below 25C and one night the overnight low was 32C

Summer 2009: The day of the world's worst ever bushfire event. Our thermometer registered 48 C (almost 119 F) and <2% humidity. Winds at 100km/h. Nuff said :-\
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Post by: TAC on December 25, 2016, 07:36:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 07:24:35 PM
I've just been out for a kick of the football with Ben :lol

And by football, I'm sure you mean soccer ball. :D
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Post by: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 08:04:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 25, 2016, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 07:24:35 PM
I've just been out for a kick of the football with Ben :lol

And by football, I'm sure you mean soccer ball. :D

And..........no. :lol

In these parts (although soccer and rugby have built up their popularity quite a lot) football means Australian Rules Football (AFL).
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 25, 2016, 08:42:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 08:04:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 25, 2016, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 07:24:35 PM
I've just been out for a kick of the football with Ben :lol

And by football, I'm sure you mean soccer ball. :D

And..........no. :lol

In these parts (although soccer and rugby have built up their popularity quite a lot) football means Australian Rules Football (AFL).

Or NRL if you're in NSW. No idea what they follow in other states, nor do I really care. It's all the same sportball shit to me anyway. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 25, 2016, 08:47:29 PM: And when we have the +35 weather there usually is 100% humidity in the air, so that makes it hotter. But what we classify as crazy hot you would classify as just hot.

But with the cold comes hockey and I assume hockey isn't the most popular in Austrailia lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 09:01:04 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 25, 2016, 08:47:29 PM
And when we have the +35 weather there usually is 100% humidity in the air, so that makes it hotter. But what we classify as crazy hot you would classify as just hot.

But with the cold comes hockey and I assume hockey isn't the most popular in Austrailia lol

We have a holiday house (the bane of my existence) in Queensland where it gets up into the low 30's with super high humidity .......I actually find it a nice change , so maybe I should pay you a visit :D . It is a very different type of heat but I'm not sure it would bother me more than low single digits humidity which literally takes your breath away and there's no need for anti-perspirant :lol

As far as hockey goes , Australia is consistently in the top few teams in the world (male and female) in outdoor hockey , but it's still a fringe sport. Ice hockey (which is what you're referring to I imagine) is basically non existent.
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Post by: wolfking on December 25, 2016, 09:05:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 25, 2016, 08:47:29 PM
And when we have the +35 weather there usually is 100% humidity in the air, so that makes it hotter. But what we classify as crazy hot you would classify as just hot.

But with the cold comes hockey and I assume hockey isn't the most popular in Austrailia lol

We have a holiday house (the bane of my existence) in Queensland where it gets up into the low 30's with super high humidity .......I actually find it a nice change , so maybe I should pay you a visit :D . It is a very different type of heat but I'm not sure it would bother me more than low single digits humidity which literally takes your breath away and there's no need for anti-perspirant :lol

As far as hockey goes , Australia is consistently in the top few teams in the world (male and female) in outdoor hockey , but it's still a fringe sport. Ice hockey (which is what you're referring to I imagine) is basically non existent.

Next time you are up bro, we are definitely meeting up for a drink or coffee, needs to happen, I will make sure of it this time mate.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 09:42:03 PM: Cool :tup

This Best of 2016 podcast is going to have be across 2 big shows - I had forgotten so much stuff from this year but now that I'm going through it methodically it's very :omg: . But if I am to achieve what I want (expose you guys to most of the best releases, cover everyone's tastes to some extent and let you guys decide what's the best of the best for you) it's going to be way too big for one show.

Will try and have both done by mid Feb and the first out there during January.

Ben asked me to wish you all a "rocking Christmas" :lol - I will try and find a Christmas photo later if I remember.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 25, 2016, 09:58:50 PM: Did you get Ben any metal/rock cd's? That kid has potential to be the worlds top rocker so you need to continue with the proper training
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 25, 2016, 10:08:12 PM: I'm not convinced that 2016 warrants 2 shows. :lol So I look forward to hopefully discovering something I'd missed. I found 2016 disappointing compared to previous years, although there are a couple of albums I really liked.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 10:14:56 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 25, 2016, 09:58:50 PM
Did you get Ben any metal/rock cd's? That kid has potential to be the worlds top rocker so you need to continue with the proper training

:lol

There is one thing he loves more than music and that's his football team . Most of his presents were footy related but over his school holidays hopefully we'll be listening to plenty of music and doing the podcast.

He has a pretty limited attention span so won't sit down and listen/watch music for hours like we might , but as he gets older hopefully he will develop that ability and perhaps take up the guitar etc.....like his old man did as a kid. That's the only way I might get back into it myself - teaching him and re-learning along the way.

I don't deal much in CD's any more either - they're all ripped to disk and played via digital means. New music is generally digital now unless it's from one of my all time favourite bands. I have an amazing stereo system but 99% of my music is played in my study through the little Swan system I have , which does still have very nice sound.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 11:03:45 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 25, 2016, 10:08:12 PM
I'm not convinced that 2016 warrants 2 shows. :lol

That could mean that Kade needs 3 shows. :lol

I would guess that I have liked maybe 10 -15 % of what I have listened to this year , so yeah...................but I would've checked out over 1000 albums .
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 26, 2016, 12:28:03 AM: That percentage sounds about right for me, although I've only checked out maybe 1/100 of what you have. Haven't felt all that inspired by this year's offerings.
I can't wait to hear your choices, hopefully including the few I've enjoyed.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 26, 2016, 02:03:53 AM: 1000 albums this year............wowzers
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Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2016, 03:02:36 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 26, 2016, 02:03:53 AM
1000 albums this year............wowzers

3 per day and it doesn't sound so nuts :lol
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Post by: Bolsters on December 26, 2016, 03:50:24 AM: I'd be surprised if I broke 100 albums this year. I found some great stuff but the quantity seemed lacking, though admittedly I need to return to a great deal of those albums and will probably change my mind on some of them.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 26, 2016, 04:07:47 AM: I'm happy if I can listen to about 20 new records thoroughly (meaning about 10 spins per record) and maybe 20 to 30 more records with one or two listens per year.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2016, 04:16:17 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on December 26, 2016, 04:07:47 AM
I'm happy if I can listen to about 20 new records thoroughly (meaning about 10 spins per record) and maybe 20 to 30 more records with one or two listens per year.

There's the difference - in trying to keep across everything that moves I don't think I would've listened to any album for 10 spins this year. And when I say "checked out" I mean sampled 1-3 songs and made a decision to follow up properly or not. I certainly didn't listen to 1000 albums from 2016 from start to finish.

If we're talking albums from 2016 that I listened to all the way through (generally means a rating 75%+) then we're talking more like 200-250 or < 1 per day.

Aside from an exception here or there nothing will be considered for the podcast unless it got low 80's or better.
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Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2016, 04:26:06 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 25, 2016, 10:08:12 PM
I'm not convinced that 2016 warrants 2 shows. :lol

That could mean that Kade needs 3 shows. :lol

I would guess that I have liked maybe 10 -15 % of what I have listened to this year , so yeah...................but I would've checked out over 1000 albums .

I was actually going to agree with Blob! :rollin But seeing you have checked over 1000 albums, fair enough. Doubt I would have cracked 50 I reckon.

Brent, who's Ben's team?
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Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2016, 04:42:26 AM: Having a listen to this new Enbound for the first time. It's pretty damn good actually.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2016, 04:50:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 26, 2016, 04:42:26 AM
Having a listen to this new Enbound for the first time. It's pretty damn good actually.

You do need 3 shows :lol Certainly solid but that was about it for me.

Quote from: wolfking on December 26, 2016, 04:26:06 AM

Brent, who's Ben's team?

Collingwood Magpies in the AFL. And for those in the US that's like the Yankees - if you don't love them , you hate them.
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Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2016, 04:55:24 AM: Looking forward to them then Brent. *rubs hands together.*

Ah, I thought it may have been AFL, Eddie McGuire would be very proud of Ben. I'm an NRL man myself.
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Post by: TAC on December 26, 2016, 06:47:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 26, 2016, 04:42:26 AM
Having a listen to this new Enbound for the first time. It's pretty damn good actually.

I haven't had time to really check it out yet. I will do so later today or tomorrow. I was big on their first album.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2016, 07:52:06 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2016, 06:47:55 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 26, 2016, 04:42:26 AM
Having a listen to this new Enbound for the first time. It's pretty damn good actually.

I haven't had time to really check it out yet. I will do so later today or tomorrow. I was big on their first album.

Looking at my song ratings it looks like this:

Latest Album - solid throughout , no standouts

Debut: Solid throughout , 3 standouts.

.........and gawd some of the production on these 2016 releases is woeful.
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Post by: Samsara on December 26, 2016, 09:24:29 AM: One of the cooler things I got for Christmas was a VULGAR DISPLAY OF PANTERA, the coffee table retrospective book chronicling the story of well, Pantera. :lol I haven't read it yet, but I love books like this. I'm a big reader, and while this one doesn't have nearly the kind of text the Metallica version (there is one called Back to the Front that I have), it's going to be a cool trip down Pantera fandom when I get around to reading it. I also have another one apparently coming (Santa was mad that it wasn't available for Christmas) that depicts the history of the L'Amour rock/metal club in New York City (I'm from Long Island). Looking forward to checking that out.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 26, 2016, 09:45:45 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 08:04:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 25, 2016, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 25, 2016, 07:24:35 PM
I've just been out for a kick of the football with Ben :lol

And by football, I'm sure you mean soccer ball. :D

And..........no. :lol

In these parts (although soccer and rugby have built up their popularity quite a lot) football means Australian Rules Football (AFL).

You're both wrong. Football should only ever mean the beautiful game and should never be used to describe games were using your foot is an incidental part of the game :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 26, 2016, 10:18:41 AM: With that Pantera book it would be interesting to hear why they basically refused to acknowledge their 80s hair metal era.

I know they wanted to revamp the band, but it's not like they were coming from a completely different genre of music.

"Power Metal" would be my favorite from everything I've heard from Pantera and it should get an official release
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 26, 2016, 11:02:48 AM: Power Metal is a great Pantera album.
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Post by: Samsara on December 26, 2016, 11:34:38 AM: Agreed on Power Metal.
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Post by: TAC on December 26, 2016, 06:43:29 PM: Can I ask a dumb question? Is the new Armored Saint live album digital only? Amazon doesn't list the CD, but they do list the mp3 album.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2016, 06:51:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2016, 06:43:29 PM
Can I ask a dumb question? Is the new Armored Saint live album digital only? Amazon doesn't list the CD, but they do list the mp3 album.

US pre-orders here Tim with deluxe editions/bundles etc...

https://www.indiemerch.com/metalbladerecords/search/?q=AS-Carpe-2017
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Post by: TAC on December 26, 2016, 06:55:05 PM: I don't understand. Amazon lists it as a Dec 16th release and I can order the mp3 album now. Is there a later release date for the actual CD? I'm not sure what to do. I won't order it from Metal Blade as I have credit at Amazon.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2016, 07:01:33 PM: Yeah.......well I wasn't aware of this but they brought forward the digital release to December , but the physical not released until 24th Feb. So if you want it early then digital is the way to go......Amazon will presumably have the CD in Feb.

If you're on Spotify and want to listen in the meantime it seems to be there. If that's no good then PM me .
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Post by: TAC on December 26, 2016, 07:08:38 PM: OK, thanks Brent. That clears things up. I just didn't want to buy it twice. I can Spotify it until the CD comes out. Thank you.

Brent, I am loving that Seven Sisters CD. I ended up buying it. Takes me back to 1982/83 when I was blind buying young English bands out of the Import Bin. Reminds me of Def Lep's On Through The Night and Mama's Boys, but way heavier.

Hoping Rising Steel's Return Of The Warlord makes the podcast. That album is :metal
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Post by: TAC on December 26, 2016, 08:12:44 PM: Just listened to Carpe Noctum. Damn, that was great!

I NEED MORE SONGS!!!!!!!!

Aftermath is easily the standout track, and I was happily surprised how tight Mess sounded. And John Bush, holy shit, sounds amazing!

:metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 27, 2016, 02:24:57 AM: Tim are you liking it better than Saints Will Conquer? Seems like it will be the same length roughly.

I'll wait until Feb to listen to it when I have the physical copy!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 27, 2016, 04:31:55 AM: There's sure a lot of love about for Ghostlights - didn't want to post over in the Avantasia thread for fear I be lynched but I'm not getting it :lol Sure it's solid and the sound is huge but I guess I have never been quite as on board with Avantasia as most around here. His best songs are amazing but I'm one of the few who would take Edguy.

I just listened to Ghostlights and literally tried to like it more - in the end I found not a great deal wrong but also very little that was memorable. And on the rare occasion that I was really getting into it , the multi-vocalist thing let it down. Tobi's vocal in Lucifer ruins it IMO as Jorn is just so much better than he is and it's so obvious in that song.

In the end I will squeeze it into the podcast (low 80's rating) with the one song I thought almost nailed it , but overall I found it pretty flat given the talent involved.

Flame away ;D
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 27, 2016, 05:19:47 AM: Not flaming, because I think I know how you feel. I feel like that with the new Metallica, almost everyone seems to love it and I simply don't get it. It isn't bad, but it's mostly mediocre. But maybe/probably I'm just not quite on board with Metallica.

Ghostlight on the other hand is in my top 5 of 2016, not Tobi's best but still an amazing record. But then I'm a fan of the multi-vocalist approach in general so that may be helpful.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 27, 2016, 05:32:11 AM: I would give the Metallica a similar rating but in that case I would say there's a core group of songs that are solid , but a few I really like and a few that I think are poor. That balances out to a similar album rating as Ghostlights (low 80's) but given there's a few songs I really like I would choose the Metallica if forced.
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Post by: TAC on December 27, 2016, 08:11:18 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 27, 2016, 04:31:55 AM
In the end I will squeeze it into the podcast (low 80's rating) with the one song I thought almost nailed it ,

I'm sure you are talking about the title track amirite?

Ghostlights really doesn't make my Top 10 this year, but the title track is in my Top 5 Tracks of the year.

While I can appreciate a good song, Avantasia is really only as interesting to me as which vocalist is singing. That's the draw for me.
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Post by: Samsara on December 27, 2016, 08:27:17 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 27, 2016, 08:11:18 AM

While I can appreciate a good song, Avantasia is really only as interesting to me as which vocalist is singing. That's the draw for me.

I'm with you, Tim. I appreciate Avantasia, but not really a "fan" per se.
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Post by: TAC on December 27, 2016, 08:37:33 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 27, 2016, 02:24:57 AM
Tim are you liking it better than Saints Will Conquer?

Track wise, I prefer SWQ. Such classic songs like Book Of Blood and Chemical Euphoria. But CN is definitely worth getting. Bush sounds amazing and Aftermath kills. I know the band likes it, but I've never been a huge fan of Stricken By Fate.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 27, 2016, 08:51:06 AM: I've only sampled songs here and there from Avantasia. I've never listened to a complete album. It's the same situation for me, it depends on the singer. Songs with Ripper, Allen, Kiske, Cooper were all very good tracks.

But then I listened to some others and found them to be a complete sapfest and turned them off. Plus I'm not a big fan of Tobi's vocals, so anything with him singing or anything from Edguy, won't likely completely win me over. I do really like that song Superheros from Edguy though.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 27, 2016, 09:06:17 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 27, 2016, 08:11:18 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 27, 2016, 04:31:55 AM
In the end I will squeeze it into the podcast (low 80's rating) with the one song I thought almost nailed it ,

I'm sure you are talking about the title track amirite?

I was thinking the other Kiske track I think but either way it should get the TAC tick of approval :lol

Currently put a line under the Top 40 (DTF Top forrrrteeeeeeeeeeeeee) and will give those albums another good listen in the next week. My ratings are changing quite a bit on revisiting some of these 2016 albums. Not many big names in that Top 40 , so hopefully some discoveries to be made.
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Post by: TAC on December 27, 2016, 09:08:40 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 27, 2016, 08:51:06 AM
Plus I'm not a big fan of Tobi's vocals,

Never been a huge fan of Tobi either, but he has really improved his craft. He's usually guilty of biting off more than he can chew.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 27, 2016, 09:39:11 AM: I really like Tobi's vocals in Avantasia, much better than his Edguy stuff. And while I really like Ghostlights and think that Kiske is a great singer, the two Kiske songs on Ghostlights are among the weaker tracks.
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Post by: Evermind on December 27, 2016, 09:58:29 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on December 27, 2016, 09:39:11 AM
And while I really like Ghostlights and think that Kiske is a great singer, the two Kiske songs on Ghostlights are among the weaker tracks.

I'd say it's the other way around for me. I love TMOT, but I think the two Kiske tracks there are among the weaker tracks. Now, I think Ghostlights is a pretty mediocre album for Avantasia, but I think both the title track and Unchain the Light are among the best tracks.

Nothing from the new album can beat Lucifer though, that's an amazing song.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2016, 02:19:21 AM: Quote from: Evermind on December 27, 2016, 09:58:29 AM

Nothing from the new album can beat Lucifer though, that's an amazing song.

I agree about the song but the gulf between Tobi and Jorn's vocals ruined it for me. :-\
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Post by: Lowdz on December 28, 2016, 02:32:26 AM: I don't mind Tobi's vocals though I struggle with his early vibrato.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2016, 02:35:26 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 28, 2016, 02:32:26 AM
I don't mind Tobi's vocals though I struggle with his early vibrato.

I don't mind a lot of his stuff as long as he is used to his strengths but yeah........some of the vibrato :lol

But in that particular song every time Jorn took it soaring Tobi's relative weakness was a momentum killer for me.
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2016, 04:33:50 AM: Ghostlights would probably make my top 5 of the year.

Quote from: bl5150 on December 28, 2016, 02:19:21 AM
Quote from: Evermind on December 27, 2016, 09:58:29 AM

Nothing from the new album can beat Lucifer though, that's an amazing song.

I agree about the song but the gulf between Tobi and Jorn's vocals ruined it for me. :-\

I love Tobi's vocals on that track. But I've always been a big fan of his.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2016, 04:55:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 28, 2016, 04:33:50 AM
Ghostlights would probably make my top 5 of the year.

Hopefully it won't once I'm done :lol

THis has been enjoyable listening to all the best stuff from 2016 as compared to my normal sampling (mostly crap :lol)
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2016, 07:10:01 AM: It's not Ghostlights, but it's Ghostship that is my AOY.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2016, 07:31:48 AM: and movie of the year Ghostbusters :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2016, 07:40:25 AM: haha...didn't even see a movie this year.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2016, 07:44:09 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 28, 2016, 07:40:25 AM
haha...didn't even see a movie this year.

I don't recall going to see one for myself , but took Ben to Ghostbusters and the new Star Wars last night (which was sorta for me too :) )
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 28, 2016, 07:46:43 AM: If you get the channel AMC, Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters 2 is in every six hours I seems lol

I had no interest in seeing that remake at all
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 28, 2016, 07:48:20 AM: I maintain that the original Ghostbusters is the one of the most overrated movie ever made.
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Post by: Samsara on December 28, 2016, 08:03:38 AM: I always thought the original Ghostbusters was just good fun. It isn't a great movie, per se, but it was a blockbuster comedy. If you needed a few laughs, there you go. I have both 1 and 2 on DVD. I put em on from time to time for a pick me up.

As for the remake -- hell to the no. I am really tired of all this crap Hollywood pulls. I believe it tanked, which...good. Come up with something different. All those actresses could have been great together in a different film. Why piggyback off the success of a classic comedy? Just do something completely different. But Hollywood these days is all about "updating." So stupid.
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2016, 09:00:55 AM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on December 28, 2016, 08:03:38 AM
I always thought the original Ghostbusters was just good fun. It isn't a great movie, per se, but it was a blockbuster comedy. If you needed a few laughs, there you go. I have both 1 and 2 on DVD. I put em on from time to time for a pick me up.

Yeah, that's cool. I'm not saying it to be super negative. I actually cannot stand Ackroyd though, and I just don't get the whole Bill Murray thing.

Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on December 28, 2016, 08:03:38 AM
As for the remake -- hell to the no. I am really tired of all this crap Hollywood pulls. I believe it tanked, which...good. Come up with something different. All those actresses could have been great together in a different film. Why piggyback off the success of a classic comedy? Just do something completely different. But Hollywood these days is all about "updating." So stupid.

Amen, brother.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 29, 2016, 08:25:17 AM: For the Scheepers fans:

https://bravewords.com/news/tomorrow-s-outlook-reveal-cover-illustration-for-upcoming-concept-album
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 29, 2016, 04:04:54 PM: I have had the Best of 2016 on constant rotation this week and have now settled on a Top 40 , almost fully ranked. At a guess I would say maybe 10 of those 40 are fairly well known around here , so I'm looking forward to the reaction to the list. I expect one of two things......

:hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

OR

(https://media.giphy.com/media/aZ3LDBs1ExsE8/giphy.gif)

Second option is odds on :lol
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Post by: Big Hath on December 29, 2016, 04:38:32 PM: (https://i.imgur.com/c7NJRa2.gif)
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2016, 07:36:24 PM: Depends where Night Ranger ranks...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 29, 2016, 07:49:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 29, 2016, 07:36:24 PM
Depends where Night Ranger ranks...

Not quite as high as Winger - not quite as low as Flotsam & Jetsam :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2016, 07:54:58 PM: (https://m.memegen.com/3jpjpl.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 29, 2016, 07:55:57 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2016, 05:01:25 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 29, 2016, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 29, 2016, 07:36:24 PM
Depends where Night Ranger ranks...

Not quite as high as Winger - not quite as low as Flotsam & Jetsam :biggrin:

Winger should be number 1, and they didn't even release an album this year.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on December 30, 2016, 06:26:15 AM: Winger rocks. All other opinions are invalid. You don't write a song like "Blind Revolution Mad," or "Rainbow in the Rose," and suck. Hey, and Kip's a legit classical composer now, nominated for a Grammy. Seriously.

Defend Winger! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2016, 11:13:12 AM: In this thread, everything always comes back to Winger lol

It should be:

The Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal/Winger Appreciation Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
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Post by: Big Hath on December 30, 2016, 11:24:38 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 30, 2016, 11:13:12 AM
In this thread, everything always comes back to Winger lol

It should be:

The Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal/Winger Appreciation Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!

TAC would never be able to post in it again!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2016, 11:28:19 AM: The whole forum needs renaming - see Tim's signature ;)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2016, 11:28:42 AM: Tim would be like a Spinal Tap drummer and Spontaneous Combust while posting.
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2016, 02:59:49 PM: Just came in to post that the whole forum does NOT need renaming. Neither does the Thread.

I'm the only guy in the history of WTF..er.. I mean DTF that gave you ass hats an actual Winger Roulette Round. It sucked too! ;D
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Post by: Big Hath on December 30, 2016, 03:35:46 PM: YOU LIKED IT AND YOU KNOW IT!
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2016, 04:08:08 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 30, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
Tim would be like a Spinal Tap drummer and Spontaneous Combust while posting.

Well need Zydar to make this happen.
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Post by: Samsara on December 30, 2016, 04:37:41 PM: I think we should all refer to Tim as Kip, just to show our appreciation....
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2016, 05:00:54 PM: ...and we'll refer to Brian as Tater! ;D

(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ae/ae3c09fb1576889d612dd6be54438386a1998d2ccd71a7b5a02eadfa20e4399f.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2016, 06:38:59 PM: "Kip and Tater" sounds like a police sitcom that would be cancelled during the first season
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2016, 06:58:12 PM: :lol

The pilot would be so bad there'd be no first season!

(https://img1.izismile.com/img/img4/20110706/640/police_officers_the_good_the_bad_and_the_downright_ugly_640_01.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2016, 07:31:56 PM: It could be a take on the 1990 show "Cop Rock"

I don't know if anyone remembers that one, but it was a police drama/musical that got cancelled after a handful of episodes. Look into it if you dare

I guess there isn't a big market for singing police shows, so the dream of Kip and Tater might never take off
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2016, 07:40:49 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWwNTSj2Cy0

Are f'n kidding me? WTF is this? :lol

:metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2016, 07:46:32 PM: That's it!!!!

The show still has a major cult following and I've seen petitions to have an official DVD release

Maybe Kip and Tater still has a chance
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2016, 07:52:05 PM: Cop Rock update

I just looked into it and there was an official DVD release in May of this year.

The show was selected number 8 worst show of all time
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Post by: Samsara on December 30, 2016, 08:47:57 PM: :lol

Tater?!?! :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2016, 04:57:59 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 30, 2016, 07:40:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWwNTSj2Cy0

Are f'n kidding me? WTF is this? :lol

:metal

My life is now a lot better after watching this video. Brilliant.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 31, 2016, 08:40:32 PM: Happy New Year metalheads .......and Tater :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 31, 2016, 08:57:13 PM: To you as well!
Another hour to go...

Listening to some Armored Saint bootlegs tonight. Also spun the Innerwish. Awesome album!
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 31, 2016, 09:11:39 PM: Aqua Net hair hug .
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Post by: TAC on December 31, 2016, 09:17:00 PM: "maintain safe hair perimeter"
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 31, 2016, 09:17:48 PM: Bro shoulder hug.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 31, 2016, 09:41:41 PM: Happy New Year!!!!
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Post by: TAC on December 31, 2016, 09:47:27 PM: New Year's Eve 1989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwEnSVyAFnI

RIP Dave
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 01, 2017, 02:01:25 AM: Happy New Year. Keep on rockin'! :metal
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Post by: Lepprador on January 01, 2017, 07:08:12 AM: Happy new year, you bunch of slow pokes. You still have no clue about music. You want proof ?
Ask yourself why you don't have an own Winger thread.

A :metal 2017 to you all.
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2017, 11:21:57 AM: https://bravewords.com/news/bravepicks-2016-metallica-s-hardwired-to-self-destruct-1

The Top 9:
1) METALLICA - Hardwired...To Self-Destruct (Blackened)
2) TESTAMENT - The Brotherhood Of The Snake (Nuclear Blast)
3) ANTHRAX - For All Kings (Megaforce / Nuclear Blast)
4) DEATH ANGEL - The Evil Divide (Nuclear Blast)
5) METAL CHURCH - XI (Rat Pak)
6) MEGADETH - Dystopia (Tradecraft/Universal)

9) FLOTSAM AND JETSAM - Flotsam And Jetsam (AFM Records)

What year are we in? :lol
80's Metal FTW!!! :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 01, 2017, 11:24:16 AM: I haven't heard any but #1, but if Hardwired was the best of the bunch, it must have been a really weak year. :P
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 01, 2017, 11:55:46 AM: If this were the 80s that Metallica thing would be better :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2017, 12:19:44 PM: The Metallica might be the weakest of the bunch.
(not totally serious)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2017, 01:39:53 PM: Everyone is now realizing what era of metal rules!!!
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Post by: Lowdz on January 01, 2017, 02:27:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 01, 2017, 12:19:44 PM
The Metallica might be the weakest of the bunch.
(not totally serious)

The Testament would be great with john Bush singing on it
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2017, 07:31:32 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 01, 2017, 02:27:32 PM
The Testament would be great with john Bush singing on it

No argument here!
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2017, 08:02:34 PM: The weather report would be great with John Bush singing on it
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2017, 08:09:47 PM: Cloudy with a chance of rrrrrrrrraaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnn! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 02, 2017, 03:45:06 AM: Of course Metallica were going to be number one.

I'm surprised the Testament and Metal Church are so high. Saying that, both were pretty good.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 02, 2017, 04:10:07 AM: From what I have seen around the traps the Metallica is getting ratings mostly in the 6.5-8 range which I would think is fair (upper end for me). And yeah - I would rate most of those top ranked albums as good or better than the Metallica.

It's great that these guys are all still going and it's a sign of the endurance and loyalty of fans in this genre.
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Post by: wolfking on January 02, 2017, 04:23:16 AM: I'm still really impressed with Hardwired.

Quote from: bl5150 on January 02, 2017, 04:10:07 AM
It's great that these guys are all still going and it's a sign of the endurance and loyalty of fans in this genre.

Yep. Shows the amazing longevity of the style of music we all enjoy, fucking tr00!!!
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Post by: TAC on January 03, 2017, 07:12:12 PM: So, don't ask me why, but I decided to give Metal Health and Conditional Critical a spin tonight. I actually think Metal Health is excellent.

But what a pant load of crap Condition Critical is. Metal Health just seems to have a certain soul about it, whereas Condition Critical is as cold as you can get. Music wise, there are a couple bright spots. Scream And Shout and Bad Boy rock, but the lyrics absolutely blow. But it is a really weak album, and it feels like it's a parody of that era's heavy metal.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2017, 07:22:46 PM: I can't remember much about Condition Critical but I think the consensus is that they were so over the moon about the success of Metal Health that they tried to rush out Metal Health Pt II with fairly predictable results.
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Post by: TAC on January 03, 2017, 07:48:13 PM: Yeah, the first track, Sign Of the Times, is a direct rip on Metal Health (the song). And covering another Slade song was just dumb. And I like Slade.
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2017, 04:04:08 AM: Quiet Riot were another 80's band I never bothered to check out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 04, 2017, 08:03:46 AM: I think Metal Health is a very good album, Don't Wanna Let You Go and Loves a Bitch are the standouts for me.

I actually never bothered with CC, just never heard many good things about it.

I remember watching VH1'S Behind the Music on Quiet Riot and it was very interesting. Kevin just seemed to rub everyone and anyone the wrong way and they were the cause of their own downfall. The fall was very fast and steep for Quiet Riot.
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Post by: Samsara on January 04, 2017, 08:10:23 AM: Quiet Riot has an interesting story, but the band itself has never been my thing.

On a completely different note, but staying within the classic hard rock and metal vein, did you guys see this book being released:

https://www.amazon.com/LAmour-Capital-Brooklyn-Alex-Kayne/dp/194020769X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483542424&sr=1-1&keywords=l%27amour+rock+capital+of+brooklyn

Apparently Santa has it on pre-order for me, and it was supposed to be released already, but it isn't ready yet. But it looks pretty sweet for those of you familiar or unfamiliar with the famed Brooklyn rock club. Should be some good stuff in there from Twisted Sister, Queensryche, White Lion, and other bands that were able to cut their teeth there and build a rabid NYC following.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 04, 2017, 08:47:12 AM: I never bothered with them at the time but Metal Health is ok. Not great, but ok. Never bothered with anything else.

I love Slade too.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 04, 2017, 08:54:36 AM: I heard of Slade via Quiet Riot ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on January 04, 2017, 09:20:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 04, 2017, 08:54:36 AM
I heard of Slade via Quiet Riot ;D

Lots of hits in the uk. And a big influence on KISS.
One of the worst images in rock though :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on January 06, 2017, 05:49:50 AM: there's a name that's a blast from the past - Joey Tafolla.................has joined Leatherwolf. Hopefully they get a new album done with this lineup.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 06, 2017, 06:16:56 AM: His Out of the Sun album is very good.

I know Leatherwolf has released newer material in the last few years, but I haven't heard anything. Street Lethal is one of my favorites; Brent, what do you rate that one?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 06, 2017, 06:23:35 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 06, 2017, 06:16:56 AM
His Out of the Sun album is very good.

I know Leatherwolf has released newer material in the last few years, but I haven't heard anything. Street Lethal is one of my favorites; Brent, what do you rate that one?

I had to go back and check my spreadsheet as it's been a while - I have it at 85% which seems about right. A very solid album with a couple of genuine anthems of the time like Thunder.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 06, 2017, 08:52:24 AM: Solid score. I meant to say Street Ready, but I figured you knew what I meant.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 06, 2017, 12:42:48 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 06, 2017, 06:23:35 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 06, 2017, 06:16:56 AM
His Out of the Sun album is very good.

I know Leatherwolf has released newer material in the last few years, but I haven't heard anything. Street Lethal is one of my favorites; Brent, what do you rate that one?

I had to go back and check my spreadsheet as it's been a while - I have it at 85% which seems about right. A very solid album with a couple of genuine anthems of the time like Thunder.

I'd agree with that.
Out of the Sun was very good but not a patch on TMac, Vinnie Moore etc. His albums after OOTS weren't up tp much.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 06, 2017, 12:50:14 PM: I have Joey filed away in my memory banks as a good technical player without much soul/feeling in there. Would have to go back and check out the albums to confirm.
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Post by: wolfking on January 06, 2017, 12:56:34 PM: I only have Out of the Sun, which is pretty good, but as Paul said, not up to Moore or TMac standards.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 06, 2017, 05:13:29 PM: Infra Blue was the follow up and I thng it went fusion-y. Can't remember much about it other than that I was disappointed. Might like it now - Greg Howe has grown on me.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 06, 2017, 08:24:28 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 06, 2017, 05:13:29 PM
Infra Blue was the follow up and I thng it went fusion-y. Can't remember much about it other than that I was disappointed. Might like it now - Greg Howe has grown on me.
The only reason I bought that was becasue Kee Marcello guested on a track - I remember that well. Not a bad album but nothing great from memory.
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Post by: TAC on January 06, 2017, 08:44:24 PM: I have no idea what we are talking about. I'll check back tomorrow! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 07, 2017, 11:51:40 PM: One more "proof listen" and I will have the first podcast of the year ready for you. I can't believe we have made it to 2017 after starting in late 2015 with what was really just a bit of fun for me and Ben. I didn't really expect your interest (or mine to be honest) to be maintained for over a year but here we are!

As I have mentioned the next 2 shows will cover the best of 2016 . They will be quite different and you can choose one or both or none :lol - the first is much more laid back and I am racing through the songs without a great deal of discussion. It's intended to be the "best of the rest" and has a huge amount of music to listen to with minimal chat. I know from roulettes and general discussion that my favourites aren't always yours and that many tracks on the shows are loved by some of you and not others. So I don't think I would be achieving my goal (to find every one of you , with your varied tastes, some new faves) if I just did my Top 40 for 2016.

What I do think I can do is to act as some sort of "quality filter" and distill my thousand of hours of checking out albums in 2016 down to a couple of shows of the albums that I thought were at least pretty good and let you guys make up your own minds.

So the first show is made up of songs from albums that I felt were good without being great , but certainly contained some of the best songs of the year. I have said prior that I think that a majority of the albums in my Top 40 or so will not be known to most of you guys. So by default I expect most of your favourite albums to be featured in the first show and hopeufully also some new discoveries too. This is a massive show of just under 9 hrs and contains a bit of everything - hard rock, metal , melodic rock/AOR, symphonic , power metal and even the odd growl :lol .

The second show (still being prepared) is my Top 40 (or 41 I think it'll end up) albums of the year based on my rating system and we will chat about these in a bit more detail - the show will be much shorter though in the range of 3-4 hours. The vast majority of this show is metal in one form or another. As you guys know I rate albums based mostly on song ratings and so , although I may prefer to listen to a lower rated album due to a couple of killer songs , in the end my rating system will often give a higher rating to an album without that killer song but which is a more consistent effort with no duds.

So the bottom 15 or so of the Top 40 (rated in the mid-high 80's) may be consistent good albums missing that killer track. The top 25 or so (rated 90%+) are albums that I thought were consistently top notch throughout. I still can't split my Top 2 , so I need to give those another listen and compare my neck soreness after each. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 08, 2017, 12:35:19 AM: 9 hours? Wowzers
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Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2017, 02:23:26 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 08, 2017, 12:35:19 AM
9 hours? Wowzers

Yep.........a lot of work in that for me (maybe nine-ty hours) , but in terms of songs..........maybe 100 or so which really isn't all that much to summarise a whole year in which I have checked thousands of albums. Back in the day the metal show that was on weekly here was 4 hrs , so mine is 2 and a bit of those shows and I am averaging one every 8 weeks.

Anyway - no obligation to listen to it all (or listen in one sitting) and that's why I split the shows. :) If it's too much.....those who just want a quick Top 40 can just take that show.

I've already listened to the 9 hr show four times :metal
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Post by: Bertielee on January 08, 2017, 02:59:07 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 06, 2017, 08:44:24 PM
I have no idea what we are talking about. I'll check back tomorrow! :lol

Guys, think about TAC's poor little heart when you post anything! ;D

@Lowdz : I thought Infra Blue was better than Out of the Sun precisely because it differs from neo-classical playing (and as said before Taffola didn't stand a chance against the greats as TMac or Vinnie Moore).

B.Lee
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Post by: Lowdz on January 08, 2017, 03:07:38 AM: Quote from: Bertielee on January 08, 2017, 02:59:07 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 06, 2017, 08:44:24 PM
I have no idea what we are talking about. I'll check back tomorrow! :lol

Guys, think about TAC's poor little heart when you post anything! ;D

@Lowdz : I thought Infra Blue was better than Out of the Sun precisely because it differs from neo-classical playing (and as said before Taffola didn't stand a chance against the greats as TMac or Vinnie Moore).

B.Lee

Yeah, but at the time I was hugely into the neoclassical thing and I couldn't get enough. Towards the end of the 80s, following Satriani's chart success they all quickly went for that sort of sound.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2017, 03:13:52 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 08, 2017, 03:07:38 AM
Quote from: Bertielee on January 08, 2017, 02:59:07 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 06, 2017, 08:44:24 PM
I have no idea what we are talking about. I'll check back tomorrow! :lol

Guys, think about TAC's poor little heart when you post anything! ;D

@Lowdz : I thought Infra Blue was better than Out of the Sun precisely because it differs from neo-classical playing (and as said before Taffola didn't stand a chance against the greats as TMac or Vinnie Moore).

B.Lee

Yeah, but at the time I was hugely into the neoclassical thing and I couldn't get enough. Towards the end of the 80s, following Satriani's chart success they all quickly went for that sort of sound.

One of the best examples of "crossing over" IMHO is Vinnie Moore's Meltdown.

I went hunting around the 2nd hand stores one weekend in the early 90's and came home with Meltdown and Tyketto's debut for about $10 all up (not having heard anything from either) ...........one of my more successful gambles on music that lot.
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Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2017, 03:32:26 AM: Meltdown is a pretty damn solid album indeed.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 08, 2017, 08:29:32 AM: A great album. Not much in it between that and Mind's Eye, just depends what mood I'm in.
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Post by: Bertielee on January 08, 2017, 12:22:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 08, 2017, 03:32:26 AM
Meltdown is a pretty damn solid album indeed.

Agreed completely. Vinnie has revealed himself to be more versatile than I had thought when i first heard him. And still, there is something in his neoclassical playing that has this versatility in germs.

B.Lee
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Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2017, 02:23:24 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 08, 2017, 08:29:32 AM
A great album. Not much in it between that and Mind's Eye, just depends what mood I'm in.

Mind's Eye for me.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 08, 2017, 03:53:11 PM: Quote from: Bertielee on January 08, 2017, 12:22:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 08, 2017, 03:32:26 AM
Meltdown is a pretty damn solid album indeed.

Agreed completely. Vinnie has revealed himself to be more versatile than I had thought when i first heard him. And still, there is something in his neoclassical playing that has this versatility in germs.

B.Lee

Those first four albums are all great, and none sound like the others. Very rare for a shredder.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2017, 03:57:25 PM: Spanish metallers Snakeyes (who I have introduced to a few of you) have been playing Accept's Metal Heart on tour to fill out the set with their debut album and have just recorded a version for their fans. Nothing new in there but a pretty faithful rendition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a95qd0SN3zU
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Post by: TAC on January 08, 2017, 07:02:48 PM: I saw that the other day. Does the singer always sound like that? It is pretty close for sure.

So speaking of Accept, I preordered Restless And Live tonight, but have been listening to Dirkschneider's Live-Back To The Roots on Spotify. Haven't purchased yet.

I know from past posts that the Accept will be fairly anticipated around here, while the Dirschneider seems to be ignored. Why is that? Did anyone get it?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2017, 07:33:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2017, 07:02:48 PM
I saw that the other day. Does the singer always sound like that? It is pretty close for sure.

I think when I played them in the podcast I described them as Spain's Judas Priest , so he's more Halford than Udo but he certainly has the voice capable of doing a nice Udo impression.
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Post by: TAC on January 08, 2017, 07:35:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 08, 2017, 07:33:47 PM
Spain's Judas Priest

I remember that reference.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 08, 2017, 11:35:34 PM: Besides a best of, I never bought anything from UDO's solo material
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Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2017, 04:33:12 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2017, 07:02:48 PM
I know from past posts that the Accept will be fairly anticipated around here, while the Dirschneider seems to be ignored. Why is that? Did anyone get it?

I find this too in general when it comes to UDO. I am a huge fan of a lot of his solo material. His last album was one of my favs from that year, great metal.

Saying that, I haven't checked that live album, I'd rather him do his own material.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 09, 2017, 05:50:58 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2017, 07:02:48 PM
I saw that the other day. Does the singer always sound like that? It is pretty close for sure.

So speaking of Accept, I preordered Restless And Live tonight, but have been listening to Dirkschneider's Live-Back To The Roots on Spotify. Haven't purchased yet.

I know from past posts that the Accept will be fairly anticipated around here, while the Dirschneider seems to be ignored. Why is that? Did anyone get it?

Because his voice is awful... though I can put up with it on those couple of classic Accept albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2017, 05:54:01 AM: One of my favourite posts was Paul's description of Udo some years ago.........what was it? Constipated flaming homosexual army general or something? :lol
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Post by: Lepprador on January 09, 2017, 06:46:48 AM: Everytime I hear him, I get an uncontrollable urge to bark. Must be some genetic wolf pack like reflex.

I own the first 3 Udo albums, because I was a fan of the obscure german Metal band Gravestone and the lead guitarist Mathias Dieth became Udo's axeman plus two ex Warlock members were in the line up, too.
The 3rd one Faceless World was abysmal, so I lost interest.
Any following albums worth checking out ?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2017, 06:55:19 AM: I think my fave was Animal House . After that yeah.....Faceless World had 3 or 4 good songs and a bunch of filler and Holy was the same or worse.

The one a few years back Decadent was better - 3 or 4 really good tracks , some solid stuff and still a fair bit of filler.

I may have some others but they'll be in my "get around to it" list which has a coupla thousand albums in it :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on January 09, 2017, 08:47:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 09, 2017, 05:54:01 AM
One of my favourite posts was Paul's description of Udo some years ago.........what was it? Constipated flaming homosexual army general or something? :lol

I think "drunk" was in there too somewhere :biggrin:
He always sounded like that angry drunk bloke we've all seen, ranting at the world to no one in particular :biggrin:
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Post by: Bertielee on January 09, 2017, 09:29:20 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 09, 2017, 05:50:58 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2017, 07:02:48 PM
I saw that the other day. Does the singer always sound like that? It is pretty close for sure.

So speaking of Accept, I preordered Restless And Live tonight, but have been listening to Dirkschneider's Live-Back To The Roots on Spotify. Haven't purchased yet.

I know from past posts that the Accept will be fairly anticipated around here, while the Dirschneider seems to be ignored. Why is that? Did anyone get it?

Because his voice is awful... though I can put up with it on those couple of classic Accept albums.

Exactly my thoughts. I never really got into Accept because of Udo's voice.

B.Lee
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Post by: Samsara on January 09, 2017, 01:22:39 PM: Was never a big Accept fan. But then I got the last three records with the new singer (Tornillo?). I liked them. A bit samey, but I enjoyed them regardless.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 09, 2017, 01:34:50 PM: I don't think anybody can really say the UDO has a great voice, but there is somebody about his vocals that just went hand in hand with the riffs of Accept. Fit perfectly.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 09, 2017, 02:10:25 PM: New singer is a trade up.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 09, 2017, 02:12:17 PM: I agree. Thats why I'm pumped for the new live album. Listening to the classics with Marks voice should be very cool.
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Post by: TAC on January 09, 2017, 02:43:11 PM: Even back in the day, I remember thinking that if Udo sang for any other band, I wouldn't listen. But Accept had great musicianship and were tight as hell.
Wolf Hoffman has a tone that is second to only Michael Schenker, and it goes right threw me and touches my core. Peter Baltes is awesome, and I always loved Stefan Kaufman's drumming. That band hit the spot for me, so I learned to live with Udo.

Listening to his new live album, I love the track listing, but there's just something missing.

Seeing them open for Maiden in '85 was literally the best (well, second best after DT) opening set I've ever seen.
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Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2017, 02:58:29 PM: Quote from: Lepprador on January 09, 2017, 06:46:48 AM
Everytime I hear him, I get an uncontrollable urge to bark. Must be some genetic wolf pack like reflex.

I own the first 3 Udo albums, because I was a fan of the obscure german Metal band Gravestone and the lead guitarist Mathias Dieth became Udo's axeman plus two ex Warlock members were in the line up, too.
The 3rd one Faceless World was abysmal, so I lost interest.
Any following albums worth checking out ?

Dieth is such an underrated guitarist. The one after Faceless World, Timebomb has a nice Painkiller vibe throughout and some amazing soloing from Mathias, check that one out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 09, 2017, 08:13:46 PM: Tim, I'm just listening to Breaker from the live Dirkschneider album. It sounds good, what would you rate the full album?
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Post by: TAC on January 09, 2017, 08:20:24 PM: It's good. I'm actually thinking of buying it. I will say that I thought Udo sounds awesome, and the setlist is fantastic. I think as far as deep Accept cuts, Restless And Live is missing a few. But I love things like Monsterman, TV War.
It definitely rocks. But it's like diet metal as Wolf Hoffman provides the body and depth that is missing here. Still it's pretty damned good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 09, 2017, 08:22:30 PM: It would be cool to buy it along with the new live Accept. Double Accept!! :metal
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Post by: TAC on January 09, 2017, 08:26:34 PM: You know what, Jason? You are right.

Just ordered it!!!
:metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 09, 2017, 08:30:22 PM: :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2017, 04:30:30 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 09, 2017, 08:20:24 PM
But it's like diet metal as Wolf Hoffman provides the body and depth that is missing here. Still it's pretty damned good.

This statement would make sense. The two fellas on the axe in UDO's band are a lot younger so don't have that experience like Wolf. Great guitarists and awesome with UDO's stuff but I could see how they would be missing something that only that old school experience would bring. I should have a listen to this one.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 10, 2017, 06:49:27 AM: Listening on Spotify now. Yeah, it's ok. Great set list.
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Post by: Lepprador on January 10, 2017, 07:38:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 09, 2017, 02:58:29 PM
Quote from: Lepprador on January 09, 2017, 06:46:48 AM
Everytime I hear him, I get an uncontrollable urge to bark. Must be some genetic wolf pack like reflex.

I own the first 3 Udo albums, because I was a fan of the obscure german Metal band Gravestone and the lead guitarist Mathias Dieth became Udo's axeman plus two ex Warlock members were in the line up, too.
The 3rd one Faceless World was abysmal, so I lost interest.
Any following albums worth checking out ?

Dieth is such an underrated guitarist. The one after Faceless World, Timebomb has a nice Painkiller vibe throughout and some amazing soloing from Mathias, check that one out.

Yes, he is. It's quite challenging to think of a player of his quality to be as low key as him.
Imho, he shines the most on:

Gravestone - Back To Attack (1985)
(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/8/4/8/3848.jpg?2510)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yfbTtBFYtV0/hqdefault.jpg)
Dieth is the one with the Flying V.
If one can stand screechy vocals, this is pure unadulterated, unapologetic Heavy fucking Metal.

I'll check out Timebomb, then.
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Post by: TAC on January 10, 2017, 06:56:17 PM: Holy crap Leprador, I'm checking this out now. Really cool!

If I may, are you old enough to have been listening to this in 1985, and what part of the world are you located?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2017, 06:58:33 PM: Just checked my song ratings on that Gravestone and it seems I thought the first half was killer , the second half mostly filler. Very solid album overall .
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Post by: TAC on January 10, 2017, 07:14:47 PM: Listening to The Tiger and at the 4 minute there's a blatant "Accept part".
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2017, 08:29:30 PM: Never heard of Gravestone either. I checked it out and I liked it too!
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Post by: Lowdz on January 11, 2017, 02:52:02 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 10, 2017, 08:29:30 PM
Never heard of Gravestone either. I checked it out and I liked it too!

Me too. Didn't mind the singer either. He fit the music. Enjoyed it.
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Post by: Lepprador on January 11, 2017, 02:57:33 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2017, 06:56:17 PM
Holy crap Leprador, I'm checking this out now. Really cool!

If I may, are you old enough to have been listening to this in 1985, and what part of the world are you located?

I'm an old fart like, I guess, the most participants of this thread (I was 15 in 1985).
Born and living in the land of teutonic terror. Started out with Bon Jovi, Europe and Def Leppard before Dio pulled me in the world of Heavy Metal.

Back To Attack was the 2nd album from Gravestone. The first (Victim Of Chains)...nah...just too basic. The 3rd and final one (Creating A Monster) is alright, but not as cool as Back To Attack.
After the 3rd one they disbanded and Dieth joined UDO. From the rest of the band I've never heard again.

Quote from: bl5150 on January 10, 2017, 06:58:33 PM
Just checked my song ratings on that Gravestone and it seems I thought the first half was killer , the second half mostly filler. Very solid album overall .

Someday...I'll be coming up with an album you've never heard of.
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Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2017, 04:33:51 AM: Will definitely have to check out that Gravestone then.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2017, 05:39:30 AM: Seems like a fun DVD from Schenker - if the vocals are up to scratch , should be a good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdZQ0m5jO_Y
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Post by: Lowdz on January 11, 2017, 07:06:16 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 11, 2017, 05:39:30 AM
Seems like a fun DVD from Schenker - if the vocals are up to scratch , should be a good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdZQ0m5jO_Y

Yeah, should be good. Enjoyed MSG when I saw them 3 years or so ago.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2017, 07:21:09 AM: At first I was thinking, Another Schenker Live album?? The last one was terrible.

But this looks awesome. I am so totally getting this.

Who's the chick in white at 1:31? :omg: Isn't that Bonnet's bass player?

Oh, and Robin McCauley :lol
Holy hair dye, Batman. A little dark on the eyebrows dontchathink?
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Post by: Lowdz on January 11, 2017, 08:40:13 AM: Anyone tried the Bonnet album from last year? I liked it.
He's doing well for a guy in his 70s.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2017, 08:46:59 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 11, 2017, 08:40:13 AM
Anyone tried the Bonnet album from last year? I liked it.
He's doing well for a guy in his 70s.

Yeah - one of the surprises of 2016 and will make my Top 40 quite comfortably.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2017, 08:47:54 AM: Haven't even heard a note.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 11, 2017, 09:02:55 AM: McAulay is in great voice in that clip, dodgy eyebrows or not. At least he hadn't got the purple rinse that I'm Peterik is sporting :eek
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2017, 10:21:04 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 11, 2017, 09:02:55 AM
McAulay is in great voice in that clip,

I noticed that. That actually got me very excited for this.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 11, 2017, 02:37:06 PM: That MSG dvd is a Tim dream come true.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2017, 02:40:19 PM: It's great to see Michael so active. But honestly, he's repackaged a lot of these songs on a number of live albums. Still this looks really cool.
I'd be skeptical, but his last two studio albums (with Doogie White) have been his strongest in many many years.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2017, 08:43:53 PM: In advance of the new Accept live album this Friday, my Dirkschneider-Live Back To The Roots arrived today.

This is a MUST for anyone that likes Accept. I have no idea what my hesitation was. His band is fantastic and great deep tracks, especially a fantastic version of Midnight Highway.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 11, 2017, 08:48:30 PM: Interesting. I was on the fence for that one.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2017, 08:56:44 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 11, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
Interesting. I was on the fence for that one.

Umm...

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 09, 2017, 08:22:30 PM
It would be cool to buy it along with the new live Accept. Double Accept!! :metal

... and

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 02, 2017, 01:42:51 PM
~~Tim~~Jason.............you must go to amazon and get that ~~EP remaster~~ live album. The live songs on that ~~remaster~~ are awesome!

Listen to yourself! ;D

I think you know what you must do.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 11, 2017, 09:08:24 PM: The only thing that made me on the fence is when you mentioned the sound was Accept-lite
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2017, 09:12:13 PM: I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm a huge Wolf Hoffman fan, but Udo's band has done a great job. One listen on Spotify was not enough. I highly recommend this.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2017, 09:14:14 PM: Great OLD footage of Accept. Breaker era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt1k6I0aptM
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2017, 04:11:10 AM: UDO's current band are indeed a fantastic group of musicians.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 12, 2017, 05:34:26 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 12, 2017, 04:11:10 AM
UDO's current band are indeed a fantastic group of musicians.

They seemed like it when I listened on Spotify. They certainly weren't the weak point :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2017, 01:13:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 12, 2017, 05:34:26 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 12, 2017, 04:11:10 AM
UDO's current band are indeed a fantastic group of musicians.

They seemed like it when I listened on Spotify. They certainly weren't the weak point :biggrin:

I can't figure out what Paul would consider to be the weak point lol
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Post by: Lowdz on January 12, 2017, 02:17:48 PM: Just seen Armored Saint are playing in Manchester (50 miles away) in march. No brainier.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2017, 07:09:32 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 12, 2017, 02:17:48 PM
Just seen Armored Saint are playing in Manchester (50 miles away) in march. No brainier.

Nice! Hopefully they play more than 8 songs.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2017, 03:31:33 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 12, 2017, 07:09:32 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 12, 2017, 02:17:48 PM
Just seen Armored Saint are playing in Manchester (50 miles away) in march. No brainier.

Nice! Hopefully they play more than 8 songs.

:biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on January 13, 2017, 10:22:42 AM: New KXM song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvTnzne69Ts

I thought their debut was way overrated but this sounds a bit more accessible /catchy to me. Still a bit "out there" but has me a bit more interested than before.
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Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2017, 02:48:42 PM: I didn't really like the first album at all, but that song was better. Pretty unimaginative chorus but great vibe and killer solo from George.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2017, 04:12:25 PM: Never liked Pinnick's voice so wasn't a fan of the first one. Wasn't there two different versions of it?
Lynch used to be a hero of mine until he did the grungy thing in the 90s.
I wanted his BFTA tone.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2017, 05:14:52 PM: Just listened to the KXM. Good god that was fucking awful.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 13, 2017, 08:17:56 PM: That KXM wasn't my thing at all
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Post by: Lowdz on January 14, 2017, 03:04:44 PM: https://youtu.be/n9zw-HLO_to

New Night Ranger. Decent enough. Sounds like Night Ranger.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 14, 2017, 04:29:43 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 14, 2017, 03:04:44 PM
https://youtu.be/n9zw-HLO_to

New Night Ranger. Decent enough. Sounds like Night Ranger.

All we need now is new Winger and new Autograph and Tim's year will be complete.
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Post by: TAC on January 14, 2017, 05:06:08 PM: (https://i.imgflip.com/aw6ug.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on January 14, 2017, 05:07:44 PM: :lol

Don't worry Tim - there's better days comin :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 14, 2017, 07:40:45 PM: I just know the hits from Night Ranger

I would say that new song is decent, but nothing more than that at all
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Post by: bl5150 on January 14, 2017, 07:47:59 PM: When it comes to Night Ranger I am not totally across their newer stuff as I lost interest a while back - for me their first three albums are the key ones . Dawn Patrol , Midnight Madness and 7 Wishes. After that they seemed to lose most of whatever hard rock edge they had and the songwriting wasn't as good either IMO.

Quote from: bl5150 on January 14, 2017, 05:07:44 PM
:lol

Don't worry Tim - there's better days comin :metal

Tim was supposed to reply that Karma would get me ;D
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Post by: TAC on January 14, 2017, 07:53:29 PM: :lol

What was I supposed to do? Am I not playing right?
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Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2017, 03:36:40 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 14, 2017, 07:53:29 PM
:lol

What was I supposed to do? Am I not playing right?

(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/images/folder375/300x/11023375.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2017, 05:10:51 AM: :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on January 15, 2017, 07:45:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 15, 2017, 03:36:40 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 14, 2017, 07:53:29 PM
:lol

What was I supposed to do? Am I not playing right?

(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/images/folder375/300x/11023375.jpg)

TAC wasn't paying attention. He was Miles Away...

You guys need to Loosen Up...
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Post by: TAC on January 15, 2017, 09:44:31 AM: Slow down guys, I can't Kip up!

:neverusethis:

Oh, and for those of you that haven't checked the Top 5 Live Shows Thread, I have a bunch of classic pics posted.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2017, 01:03:42 PM: You are cheating on us with another thread???
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Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2017, 04:24:59 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 15, 2017, 01:03:42 PM
You are cheating on us with another thread???

State of Emergency
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Post by: TAC on January 15, 2017, 04:35:01 PM: (https://www.stevenazarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/HorshackSM.jpg)

Ok, I think I got this...

Maybe I should Pull my post?

:facepalm:

Um..that didn't come out right. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2017, 04:39:20 PM: Can't Keep From Hanging On...................to his post :omg:
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2017, 04:43:39 PM: It's ok under one condition it never happens again!
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Post by: TAC on January 15, 2017, 07:44:39 PM: So I'm listening to Helloween's Walls Of Jericho right now.
I have always loved Ingo's drumming. Most Thrash or Power Metal drummers feel like machines, but Ingo has a real human feel to his drumming. I've always felt that way about the Keepers albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2017, 08:00:26 PM: Some cool tunes on Walls of Jericho and hopefully they include a song on the upcoming tour.

Metal Invaders! :metal

But I never could get into Kai's voice completely and that's why a lot of Gamma Ray doesn't do much for me. If Kiske was the singer on Walls, that album would be getting lots of rotation!
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Post by: TAC on January 15, 2017, 08:08:45 PM: I agree. If Kiske was the singer for Gamma Ray, they'd be a Top 10 favorite band of mine.

At least we have Kiske versions of Starlight and Victim Of Fate. Plus bootleg versions of Ride The Sky and multiple live versions of How Many Tears.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2017, 08:27:30 PM: Never heard the Ride the Sky bootleg with Kiske. That would be sweet!

Those other two songs from Walls with Kiske singing are excellent
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Post by: TAC on January 15, 2017, 08:34:30 PM: Jason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1RCHTsqQmI

Here's a video. Not great sound. Still cool though. I have a real decent version on my iPod. I'll search my hard drive for a copy tomorrow.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2017, 08:40:54 PM: :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2017, 08:41:42 PM: I'm the same with Hansen's voice for the most part - the only Gamma Ray songs I play with any regularity feature Scheepers.
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Post by: TAC on January 15, 2017, 08:44:14 PM: I actually find Scheepers worse than Hansen.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2017, 09:06:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 15, 2017, 08:44:14 PM
I actually find Scheepers worse than Hansen.

I wonder if Scheepers was ever in the running to sing for Helloween after Kai stepped down
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Post by: TAC on January 15, 2017, 09:07:49 PM: Scheepers Of The Seven Keys!

:neverusethis:
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Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2017, 09:22:54 PM: I never knew you were so anti-Ralfy Tim.

I actually think he sounds not unlike Kiske on the early Gamma Ray stuff. Even the early Gamma Ray stuff was patchy from a songwriting point of view but, endless midsection aside , I love the title track from Heading For Tomorrow.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2017, 09:31:52 PM: I'm always surprised Tim isn't a big Ralf fan either. He's just pure metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2017, 04:27:29 AM: Gamma Ray are a top 10 band for me, maybe top 5. Always loved Kai's voice personally.
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Post by: Lepprador on January 16, 2017, 05:08:30 AM: I have to confess, I havn't heard a single Gamma Ray album. Isn't that Scheepers guy also the vocalist for Primal Fear ? A friend introduced me to their last two albums and while the metal is strong on both offerings, I found the vocals to be off-putting. Can't really pin it down, but something in his voice doesn't resonate very well with me and the lyrics are among the worst I've ever heard.
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Post by: TAC on January 16, 2017, 06:04:48 AM: I was in a retro metal mood last night. But I have the day off today, so I may spin some Gamma Ray today. But I find a lot of Gamma Ray kind of samey. It's awesome. But samey. When I finish an album, I'm usually trying to figure out WTF I just listened to.

EDIT: Starting out with the one I gravitate to the most, Somewhere Out In Space.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 16, 2017, 01:00:54 PM: When watching that Kiske Ride the Sky video, I think he would have been a good fit to replace Bruce in Maiden in the early 90's. I know Kiske was in the running to get the gig, but I'm not sure how seriously he was being considered. But I think a Maiden/Kiske combo would have been impressive.
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Post by: TAC on January 16, 2017, 01:04:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 16, 2017, 01:00:54 PM
When watching that Kiske Ride the Sky video, I think he would have been a good fit to replace Bruce in Maiden in the early 90's. I know Kiske was in the running to get the gig, but I'm not sure how seriously he was being considered. But I think a Maiden/Kiske combo would have been impressive.

It would've been impressive. But I think that he was never considered. Not sure where I read that.

Listening to Heading For Tomorrow now. I think on this, Scheepers sounds great. His voice isn't as sharp or piercing.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 16, 2017, 01:06:29 PM: TAC roulette round 76: Ralf Scheepers round.
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Post by: TAC on January 16, 2017, 01:24:23 PM: ;D

I have the 3 GR albums with him and a few Primal Fear.
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Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2017, 03:12:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 16, 2017, 06:04:48 AM
I was in a retro metal mood last night. But I have the day off today, so I may spin some Gamma Ray today. But I find a lot of Gamma Ray kind of samey. It's awesome. But samey. When I finish an album, I'm usually trying to figure out WTF I just listened to.

EDIT: Starting out with the one I gravitate to the most, Somewhere Out In Space.

The run of Land of the Free through to No World order is just amazing IMO. Powerplant is pure power metal perfection, and I love the more harder, straight forward metal approach of No World Order. Somewhere Out in Space though I find has quite a lot of variety and is a very entertaining album.

Majestic is one that seems to get lost, but I find it very strong too.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 16, 2017, 04:44:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 15, 2017, 07:44:39 PM
So I'm listening to Helloween's Walls Of Jericho right now.
I have always loved Ingo's drumming. Most Thrash or Power Metal drummers feel like machines, but Ingo has a real human feel to his drumming. I've always felt that way about the Keepers albums.

I really don't like the drums on the first Keepers album. I hardly ever notice drums but something stands out as off. 2nd Keepers album isn't as bad for this but again I notice the drums, in a bad way.
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Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2017, 04:50:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 16, 2017, 01:24:23 PM
;D

I have the 3 GR albums with him and a few Primal Fear.

Insanity and Genius is a good one too.
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Post by: TAC on January 16, 2017, 04:56:45 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 16, 2017, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 15, 2017, 07:44:39 PM
So I'm listening to Helloween's Walls Of Jericho right now.
I have always loved Ingo's drumming. Most Thrash or Power Metal drummers feel like machines, but Ingo has a real human feel to his drumming. I've always felt that way about the Keepers albums.

I really don't like the drums on the first Keepers album. I hardly ever notice drums but something stands out as off. 2nd Keepers album isn't as bad for this but again I notice the drums, in a bad way.

That's cool. Different Strokes...

Quote from: wolfking on January 16, 2017, 04:50:48 PM

Insanity and Genius is a good one too.

I'm halfway through Powerplant. Should get one more in tonight. Pick it Kade!
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Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2017, 04:35:54 AM: Obviously a bit late back to this Tim, but, No World Order.
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Post by: TAC on January 17, 2017, 03:55:54 PM: Thanks Kade. Just got home from work. Will hit it tonight.

Holy crap!
https://bravewords.com/news/grim-reaper-frontman-steve-grimmett-has-part-of-leg-amputated-due-to-aggressive-infection-tour-cancelled
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Post by: bl5150 on January 17, 2017, 04:06:54 PM: Damn - big fan of Steve's across Grim Reaper/Lionsheart/solo..............hope it goes as well as it can for him. :-\
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Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2017, 04:30:50 PM: Holy fuck, that's just awful. Hopefully he can recover well enough.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 17, 2017, 05:47:31 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 17, 2017, 04:06:54 PM
Damn - big fan of Steve's across Grim Reaper/Lionsheart/solo..............hope it goes as well as it can for him. :-\

That's a shame. I like his guitar player this tour, Steve Stine. He does some excellent tuition stuff on YouTube. I've learned a lot from him, and David Walliman.
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Post by: TAC on January 17, 2017, 07:22:37 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 17, 2017, 04:35:54 AM
Obviously a bit late back to this Tim, but, No World Order.

Listening now. Awesome album!

I expect to post another classic Tour Program tomorrow. Still deciding which one..
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Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2017, 04:26:23 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 17, 2017, 07:22:37 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 17, 2017, 04:35:54 AM
Obviously a bit late back to this Tim, but, No World Order.

Listening now. Awesome album!

:metal It's still my fav GR album. Perfect mix of power metal and classic heavy metal.
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Post by: TAC on January 18, 2017, 05:59:20 AM: Lots of Priest and Blackmore-isms.
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Post by: TAC on January 18, 2017, 10:33:14 AM: Today's classic Tour Program was purchased at the Providence Civic Center on August 20, 1984.
Dio- The Last In Line Tour

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3263_zpskvi6vhij.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3263_zpskvi6vhij.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 01:06:31 PM: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2017, 01:49:35 PM: :metal Indeed.

Such a classic band and killer lineup.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 01:59:49 PM: The best one-two punch in the history of heavy metal would be either Heaven and Hell/Mob Rules or Holy Diver/Last in Line.

Really a toss up for me.
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Post by: TAC on January 18, 2017, 02:07:23 PM: Is there a better 4 album run? I know it's different bands, but still..Dio!! :metal

I still remember exactly where I was (a 15 y/o sitting in my bedroom on a Saturday night around midnight) when I first heard the new Dio "solo" album. The radio show I was listening to played Stand Up And Shout and Straight Through The Heart.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 02:09:30 PM: Maybe throw in Rising and Long Live Rock n Roll and you have the greatest 6 album run ever lol

Regardless :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2017, 02:21:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 02:09:30 PM
Maybe throw in Rising and Long Live Rock n Roll and you have the greatest 6 album run ever lol

Regardless :metal

Then throw in Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 18, 2017, 02:39:39 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 18, 2017, 02:21:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 02:09:30 PM
Maybe throw in Rising and Long Live Rock n Roll and you have the greatest 6 album run ever lol

Regardless :metal

Then throw in Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules!

Umm...
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 01:59:49 PM
The best one-two punch in the history of heavy metal would be either Heaven and Hell/Mob Rules or Holy Diver/Last in Line.

Really a toss up for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2017, 02:49:33 PM: Thought it was weird that Jason didn't mention them. :rollin

That will teach me for skimming and posting on DTF while at work and sneakily Alt+Tabbing between pages. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 03:50:31 PM: As long as you didn't think I was including the Elf albums lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 18, 2017, 08:57:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 01:59:49 PM
The best one-two punch in the history of heavy metal would be either Heaven and Hell/Mob Rules or Holy Diver/Last in Line.

Really a toss up for me.

I still haven't got H&H/Mob Rules, despite loving what I've heard from the albums. Been meaning to rectify that forever.
But Holy Diver and Last in Line are definitely among the best back to back albums in metal. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2017, 09:06:34 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 18, 2017, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 01:59:49 PM
The best one-two punch in the history of heavy metal would be either Heaven and Hell/Mob Rules or Holy Diver/Last in Line.

Really a toss up for me.

I still haven't got H&H/Mob Rules, despite loving what I've heard from the albums. Been meaning to rectify that forever.
But Holy Diver and Last in Line are definitely among the best back to back albums in metal. :metal

Both those albums are essential Blob.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 18, 2017, 09:45:21 PM: I know! I have no excuse for such an oversight. I have every Ozzy era Sabbath album, I have Dehumanizer and The Devil You Know, I have every Dio solo album and his albums with Rainbow, but not those first two Dio era Sabbath albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 19, 2017, 01:14:56 AM: Just order them right now and we will pretend the last few postings in this thread never happened lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2017, 04:38:31 AM: :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 19, 2017, 04:59:05 AM: Downloaded and queued. Now let's never speak of it again.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 19, 2017, 10:48:42 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 18, 2017, 05:59:20 AM
Lots of Priest and Blackmore-isms.

Usually a good sign 😀🎸🤘
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 19, 2017, 10:50:23 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 18, 2017, 09:45:21 PM
I know! I have no excuse for such an oversight. I have every Ozzy era Sabbath album, I have Dehumanizer and The Devil You Know, I have every Dio solo album and his albums with Rainbow, but not those first two Dio era Sabbath albums.

There's still time for your redemption. The best songs from both would be the best album DIO ever did.
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Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2017, 01:34:52 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 19, 2017, 10:50:23 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 18, 2017, 09:45:21 PM
I know! I have no excuse for such an oversight. I have every Ozzy era Sabbath album, I have Dehumanizer and The Devil You Know, I have every Dio solo album and his albums with Rainbow, but not those first two Dio era Sabbath albums.

There's still time for your redemption. The best songs from both would be the best album DIO ever did.

Yeah, probably.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 19, 2017, 04:54:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 18, 2017, 02:09:30 PM
Maybe throw in Rising and Long Live Rock n Roll and you have the greatest 6 album run ever lol

Regardless :metal

Jason is spot on. Include The next two DIO albums too for me. That is a quality run, especially when you consider its three separate bands.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2017, 04:40:31 AM: What a massive loss Dio was to the world. :'(
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2017, 04:55:59 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OPA4i3xdtk

New song from a new band featuring Michael Ehre and the great Henjo Richter from Gamma Ray. Pretty fucking good but not out til May. Good song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 20, 2017, 09:39:31 AM: That link lead to this one. I really like it. Can't find much about them because their name is pretty much taken by fire safety products :biggrin:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I8_XzqngZRk
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Post by: Samsara on January 20, 2017, 11:27:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 20, 2017, 04:40:31 AM
What a massive loss Dio was to the world. :'(

Indeed. Just finished listening to Killing the Dragon, and have switched to H&H's Live at Wacken 2009.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2017, 02:46:39 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 20, 2017, 09:39:31 AM
That link lead to this one. I really like it. Can't find much about them because their name is pretty much taken by fire safety products :biggrin:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I8_XzqngZRk

NOt bad. Nothing special though for me.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2017, 02:47:51 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on January 20, 2017, 11:27:30 AM
...switched to H&H's Live at Wacken 2009.

One of the best live albums released in the last 20 years. Dio is on fire, as is Iommi. Amazing performance with an epic version of Heaven & Hell.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2017, 03:03:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2017, 02:47:51 PM
Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on January 20, 2017, 11:27:30 AM
...switched to H&H's Live at Wacken 2009.

One of the best live albums released in the last 20 years. Dio is on fire, as is Iommi. Amazing performance with an epic version of Heaven & Hell.

Absolutely
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2017, 03:11:51 PM: I never really gave that live album much of a listen yet I own the cd. Need to dig it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 20, 2017, 09:21:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2017, 02:47:51 PM
Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on January 20, 2017, 11:27:30 AM
...switched to H&H's Live at Wacken 2009.

One of the best live albums released in the last 20 years. Dio is on fire, as is Iommi. Amazing performance with an epic version of Heaven & Hell.

I believe some of my video work is on the DVD, on the projection screen for much of Bible Black iirc. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 21, 2017, 05:40:12 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 20, 2017, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2017, 02:47:51 PM
Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on January 20, 2017, 11:27:30 AM
...switched to H&H's Live at Wacken 2009.

One of the best live albums released in the last 20 years. Dio is on fire, as is Iommi. Amazing performance with an epic version of Heaven & Hell.

I believe some of my video work is on the DVD, on the projection screen for much of Bible Black iirc. :metal

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2017, 02:58:07 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 20, 2017, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2017, 02:47:51 PM
Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on January 20, 2017, 11:27:30 AM
...switched to H&H's Live at Wacken 2009.

One of the best live albums released in the last 20 years. Dio is on fire, as is Iommi. Amazing performance with an epic version of Heaven & Hell.

I believe some of my video work is on the DVD, on the projection screen for much of Bible Black iirc. :metal

That's fucking incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2017, 05:04:09 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 20, 2017, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 20, 2017, 09:39:31 AM
That link lead to this one. I really like it. Can't find much about them because their name is pretty much taken by fire safety products :biggrin:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I8_XzqngZRk

NOt bad. Nothing special though for me.

I thought it was pretty good Paul , especially for an indie but yeah............zero info around aside from one guy's Facebook page which has no info on the band. Shame.

There's actually some really good unknown bands out of South America at the moment , a couple of which will be in the upcoming podcasts.

One thing I did find while searching for the band is the new official video for this thread :lol it's meant to be a funny at Slayer's expense but I enjoy watching metal crushing all the prog - and Nickelback :D Although I think Steve Wilson got away :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4iAlQY61fE&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2017, 05:34:06 PM: :rollin :rollin :rollin

Oh my God, that is so funny!!! I'm dying! :rollin
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 22, 2017, 12:34:10 AM: :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2017, 03:49:05 AM: To my surprise I managed to pick up the new Accept DVD/2CD in store at a JB (Aussie chain) today. Was not expecting it at all, so was a very nice surprise. The cd is sounding great so far.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 22, 2017, 06:03:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 21, 2017, 05:04:09 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 20, 2017, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 20, 2017, 09:39:31 AM
That link lead to this one. I really like it. Can't find much about them because their name is pretty much taken by fire safety products :biggrin:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I8_XzqngZRk

NOt bad. Nothing special though for me.

I thought it was pretty good Paul , especially for an indie but yeah............zero info around aside from one guy's Facebook page which has no info on the band. Shame.

There's actually some really good unknown bands out of South America at the moment , a couple of which will be in the upcoming podcasts.

One thing I did find while searching for the band is the new official video for this thread :lol it's meant to be a funny at Slayer's expense but I enjoy watching metal crushing all the prog - and Nickelback :D Although I think Steve Wilson got away :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4iAlQY61fE&feature=youtu.be

I contacted the guy on a Facebook and he sent me the mp3s for those two songs. That's all they have at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 22, 2017, 08:08:23 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 22, 2017, 03:49:05 AM
To my surprise I managed to pick up the new Accept DVD/2CD in store at a JB (Aussie chain) today. Was not expecting it at all, so was a very nice surprise. The cd is sounding great so far.

My copy is arriving this week! Hopefully Monday
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2017, 08:16:37 AM: OK, so I'm not sure it should matter, but I liked the fact that the Tornillo Era Accept also included Herman Frank and Stefan Schwartzman (sp?) as they were also in parts of the Udo Era.
Now, with a new drummer and guitarist, I just feel it's different. Not that these guys can't play or the songs are any different. I just liked the fact that Accept was well, Accept.

The new DVD barely shows the second guitarist.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 22, 2017, 11:17:34 AM: What was the reason that Herman and Stefan were booted from the band?
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2017, 01:48:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 22, 2017, 08:16:37 AM
OK, so I'm not sure it should matter, but I liked the fact that the Tornillo Era Accept also included Herman Frank and Stefan Schwartzman (sp?) as they were also in parts of the Udo Era.
Now, with a new drummer and guitarist, I just feel it's different. Not that these guys can't play or the songs are any different. I just liked the fact that Accept was well, Accept.

The new DVD barely shows the second guitarist.

I've only watched a couple of songs but I sort of feel the same. It just doesn't feel as classic or something. It's become the Wolf and to a lesser extent Mark show.

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 22, 2017, 11:17:34 AM
What was the reason that Herman and Stefan were booted from the band?

I have no idea. Did they not both just leave on their own accord.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2017, 07:41:25 AM: On my latest YouTube crawl I came across Roxxcalibur, a tribute band to the NWOBHM. They cover tracks by the bands from back in the day, give them a polish, with a decent singer. Quite enjoyable.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 08:04:22 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 23, 2017, 07:41:25 AM
On my latest YouTube crawl I came across Roxxcalibur, a tribute band to the NWOBHM. They cover tracks by the bands from back in the day, give them a polish, with a decent singer. Quite enjoyable.

They're one of those bands that I researched , got an album or two and set aside for later (and never got to it ). Looks like I have releases from 2011 and 2015.......looks like you were playing the 2011 one. Will give 'em a spin soon.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 10:07:39 AM: I just envision that Brent has stacks of cd's in a closet that he bought but still hasn't gotten around to listening to. And just like it would be in television, everytime Brent opens up the closet door, the cd's come crashing down on his head.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2017, 11:14:22 AM: Just seen that WASP are touring the uk this year playing the whole of Zcrimson Idol. I'm there. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 11:22:08 AM: They are re-recording The Crimson Idol too.

I'm always a little leery of re-recorded albums, but this might be pretty cool.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2017, 11:59:09 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
They are re-recording The Crimson Idol too.

I'm always a little leery of re-recorded albums, but this might be pretty cool.

Certainly doesn't need a rerecord. Must be a label thing.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 12:02:32 PM: Re-recordings are never better, at least none that I can think off of the top of my head.

At best they are average-good and can be a good supplement to the originals. But it's better to leave all classics alone.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2017, 01:25:45 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 12:02:32 PM
Re-recordings are never better, at least none that I can think off of the top of my head.

At best they are average-good and can be a good supplement to the originals. But it's better to leave all classics alone.

I see why bands would do it if they aren't making any money off their best/popular work.
I wonder if Blackie will go all out and throw an orchestra on it or something. With all the pain of doing it the first time I'm surprised he's going there again.
I hope he can recreate the sound because those guitars were huge.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 04:52:58 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
I just envision that Brent has stacks of cd's in a closet that he bought but still hasn't gotten around to listening to. And just like it would be in television, everytime Brent opens up the closet door, the cd's come crashing down on his head.

:lol

Thankfully in the last few years most of my purchases (especially speculative ones) have been in digital format - makes it easier for the podcast too (no need to be ripping hundreds of discs beyond what I did with my original CD collection). So I have one big hard drive to fall on my head ;D I have many,many hundreds of albums that I have discovered/researched and never got around to . So hopefully there's some gems in there that I can share at some point - I'm sure there is. Time is the only obstacle.
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Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2017, 05:42:54 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 23, 2017, 11:14:22 AM
Just seen that WASP are touring the uk this year playing the whole of Zcrimson Idol. I'm there. :metal

I saw the show a few years back when they came down here and it was fucking awesome, definitely check it out.

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
They are re-recording The Crimson Idol too.

I'm always a little leery of re-recorded albums, but this might be pretty cool.

The fuck? Please Blackie, no.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 05:43:34 PM: I think when I first imported all of my cd's onto Itunes, it took like 6 months overall lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 06:11:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 05:43:34 PM
I think when I first imported all of my cd's onto Itunes, it took like 6 months overall lol

Yeah -not a small job. I did it while I worked at home and just got into a rhythm where I was doing maybe 6-10 discs an hour . it took me somewhere around 5-6 weeks doing that full time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2017, 06:12:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
I just envision that Brent has stacks of cd's in a closet that he bought but still hasn't gotten around to listening to. And just like it would be in television, everytime Brent opens up the closet door, the cd's come crashing down on his head.

:lol

Thankfully in the last few years most of my purchases (especially speculative ones) have been in digital format - makes it easier for the podcast too (no need to be ripping hundreds of discs beyond what I did with my original CD collection). So I have one big hard drive to fall on my head ;D I have many,many hundreds of albums that I have discovered/researched and never got around to . So hopefully there's some gems in there that I can share at some point - I'm sure there is. Time is the only obstacle.

I can see in the future in some Planet Of The Apes type world, archeologists will dig up Brent's Album Ratings Spreadsheet, and the will think they found the great human equation.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 06:19:06 PM: :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 06:21:20 PM: If they're metal fans it'll sure save them some time and give them more time to dig shit up ;D
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Post by: TAC on January 23, 2017, 06:27:07 PM: Here's a picture taken with the L, Brent dig site marker.

(https://markosun.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/apes.png?w=1000)

Yup, definitely Metal Fans! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2017, 08:11:09 PM: Brent, just curious, what format and bitrate did you rip all your cd's to?
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 08:43:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 23, 2017, 08:11:09 PM
Brent, just curious, what format and bitrate did you rip all your cd's to?

I have never spent much time on the various players/file formats etc....and although I have a great stereo system that's worth about twice what my car is I don't consider myself a full-on audiophile. When I bought that system I was in a totally different financial world and was much more interested in sound quality. These days I actually listen to most of my music in my office through my Swan speakers.

So in the end , despite all the audophiles telling me I should use FLAC and Foobar and whatever , I just stuck with iTunes. So I used their lossless format for my CDs (ALAC I think) which is good enough.

When I need to use them for something else (like the podcast/mp3 player) I just convert the files to standard mp3 @ 320.

I still haven't finished getting through Firewind - will let you know what I think when I do.
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Post by: Bolsters on January 23, 2017, 08:55:59 PM: There's no difference between FLAC and ALAC as far as sound quality is concerned anyway. And if your media player of choice is iTunes you couldn't use FLAC, since it doesn't support it. :lol

My collection is roughly 30% FLAC now and the rest 320kbps MP3. I decided that I didn't need it to be 100% FLAC because I didn't think I listened to that other 70% enough anymore to warrant it. Generally if I love something enough and/or listen to it a lot, I'll have it as FLAC.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 09:05:37 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on January 23, 2017, 08:55:59 PM
There's no difference between FLAC and ALAC as far as sound quality is concerned anyway. And if your media player of choice is iTunes you couldn't use FLAC, since it doesn't support it. :lol

You will find plenty who will disagree with you on ALAC/FLAC (despite them both theoretically being "lossless") - in the end I decided I didn't care . As I mentioned I chose ALAC as I decided to stick with iTunes (ie I was aware that FLAC wouldn't work and , as mentioned , didn't bother with stuff like Foobar which a lot of FLAC users recommend)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 23, 2017, 09:43:47 PM: iTunes is shit, but lossless is lossless. Don't listen to anything audiophiles think in terms of audio quality, they're often full of shit. :lol
I use foobar because it's so customizable and has tabbed playlists, I only use FLAC for some special albums though (basically just DT related albums + GNR - AFD). Everything else is 320kb. Nobody's going to tell the difference.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 09:55:29 PM: Yep - full of shit a lot of the time :lol Having said that I don't have any trouble believing that ALAC could be inferior to FLAC. "Lossless is lossless" is like saying "a photocopy is a photocopy" .........the machinery (or in this case the FLAC codec vs ALAC codec) can make a difference.

But yeah.......in the end I decided my ear isn't as good as the audiophiles and vinyl hipsters and so it's not worth worrying about ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 23, 2017, 10:05:27 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 09:55:29 PM
Yep - full of shit a lot of the time :lol Having said that I don't have any trouble believing that ALAC could be inferior to FLAC. "Lossless is lossless" is like saying "a photocopy is a photocopy" .........the machinery (or in this case the FLAC codec vs ALAC codec) can make a difference.

A photocopy is analog, but a digitally lossless file is precisely that, so they are all equal in terms of quality. You could convert from one lossless format to another lossless format all day long, and never lose any quality.

That said, I'd still trust FLAC over anything from Apple. :biggrin: But as you said, not really worth worrying about. The bigger difference will be in the playback software/hardware, rather than the file format.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2017, 10:15:58 PM: How did I know that you would use technical jargon to destroy my analogy ? :lol I understand that they are different but my point stands - just because two codecs/copiers exist that claim to produce lossless/fine copies doesn't mean that they are both as effective as each other in all respects. Many of these audiophile types believe (or did at some point in time) that ALAC codec is inferior to FLAC. I really don't care but I don't believe it's necessarily as simple as "if they say it's lossless it's lossless". And yeah - I don't trust Apple either ;)

We both agree that it's not worth worrying about - all I was saying is that until I see/hear proof of the codecs' equivalence I don't have any reason to believe Apple over the rogue audiophiles :)

You would hope that Apple wouldn't be dumb enough to produce a lossless codec that spits out stuff that isn't "bit for bit" equivalent to FLAC................maybe my memory of these arguments goes back to an early iteration of ALAC when there were some issues.

Anyway...............why are we talking about this shit? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 23, 2017, 10:27:44 PM: Well I'm a nerd with nothing better to do. What's your excuse? :lol

What they might mean in ALAC vs FLAC is the file size. Lossless formats like that still compress the file size so that it isn't as big, but it doesn't lose any quality in the process unlike MP3. Maybe FLAC produces smaller file sizes than ALAC. So ALAC may be inferior in that way, despite the audio quality being identical.
The quality will theoretically beat any MP3 regardless, so yeah.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 10:43:24 PM: Enough with this stuff, lets get back to the rock!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on January 23, 2017, 11:08:43 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 10:43:24 PM
Enough with this stuff, lets get back to the rock!!

:metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2017, 04:41:59 AM: I don't know why I even asked. I don't even know what FLAC and ALAC means? :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2017, 04:43:24 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2017, 10:43:24 PM
Enough with this stuff, lets get back to the rock!!

(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder291/67591291.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on January 24, 2017, 05:14:14 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 23, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
What they might mean in ALAC vs FLAC is the file size. Lossless formats like that still compress the file size so that it isn't as big, but it doesn't lose any quality in the process unlike MP3. Maybe FLAC produces smaller file sizes than ALAC. So ALAC may be inferior in that way, despite the audio quality being identical.
I just converted a couple of FLAC files to ALAC. The comparison is 34.4MB to 35MB, and 19.3MB to 19.7MB. So yeah, it does appear to be slightly less efficient data compression.

So as to not be off topic: :2metal: :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2017, 07:33:52 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on January 24, 2017, 05:14:14 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 23, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
What they might mean in ALAC vs FLAC is the file size. Lossless formats like that still compress the file size so that it isn't as big, but it doesn't lose any quality in the process unlike MP3. Maybe FLAC produces smaller file sizes than ALAC. So ALAC may be inferior in that way, despite the audio quality being identical.
I just converted a couple of FLAC files to ALAC. The comparison is 34.4MB to 35MB, and 19.3MB to 19.7MB. So yeah, it does appear to be slightly less efficient data compression.

So as to not be off topic: :2metal: :neverusethis:

Enough with this stuff, lets get back to the rock!!
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2017, 02:28:45 PM: (https://cbsnow100fm.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/aflac2.jpg?w=420)
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2017, 02:45:53 PM: Jason is going to go ape shit in a minute.
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2017, 02:49:08 PM: He better not give me any.....FLAC!

:neverusethis:
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2017, 02:49:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 24, 2017, 02:45:53 PM
Jason is going to go ape shit in a minute.

I see what you did there!
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Post by: Samsara on January 24, 2017, 02:57:18 PM: :rollin
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Post by: Big Hath on January 24, 2017, 03:02:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 24, 2017, 02:49:08 PM
He better not give me any.....FLAC!

:neverusethis:

if he gets his hands on you, he'll shorten your life
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2017, 04:11:36 PM: OK JJ - can you please go back to the rock ? :-*

(https://s30.postimg.org/r7sirglb5/jjflac2.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2017, 04:12:34 PM: :lol

:metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2017, 07:35:07 PM: What the fuck is the flac?
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2017, 07:37:27 PM: And I'll hire Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds to clean up this thread if need be lol
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2017, 07:38:36 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 24, 2017, 07:35:07 PM
What the fuck is the flac?

(https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/011/606/for_gallery_v2/Is_Stripes_the_best_Bill_Murray_movie__.png?1414246613)

"That's a flac, jack!"
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 24, 2017, 09:56:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 24, 2017, 02:49:55 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 24, 2017, 02:45:53 PM
Jason is going to go ape shit in a minute.

I see what you did there!

:rollin
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2017, 10:00:22 PM: You requested my opinion on the new Firewind Kade............My first listen was very stop/start so I just gave it a proper "one sitting" second listen and it connected much more the second time around. I have never been a big Firewind fan and , as you may remember , I rated Gus G's solo work much lower than you did. His songwriting has never impressed me. So I am a bit surprised to say that this is a very good album - by far the best thing I have heard from him.

Henning Basse does a fine job , sounding more than a bit like Rob Rock at times. Gus G shreds a bit but plays very tastefully - his tone is reminiscent of prime TMac at times.

There's a number of very strong tracks (nothing mindblowing or original but plenty to like) and nothing sucks , which are the key ingredients for a good rating from me. Only 10 tracks +1 bonus is nice too.......the filler really can be a killer these days.

My rating : 87%
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2017, 11:39:47 PM: I don't know much about Firewind, but you piqued my interest when you mentioned that Basse sounded like Rob Rock. Checked out Hands of Time and there definitely is a Rob Rock singing vibe. Good tune!
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Post by: Lowdz on January 25, 2017, 03:54:43 AM: Worth a listen then. I've never given them much time.
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Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2017, 04:56:10 AM: Fucking nice Brent. Gonna try and get my hands on it this weekend. Comparing Gus to TMac is fair enough, he's a stellar guitarist.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 25, 2017, 06:02:08 AM: New Place Vendome. Yeah, won't be bothering with this.

https://youtu.be/O5JEGqYWeO0
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 25, 2017, 06:10:46 AM: Didn't sound bad, but it sounds like every other Frontiers metal album, and the vocals let it down a bit. Musically it wasn't bad though, and the production is really good for a Frontiers album. Not one I'm personally interested in.
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Post by: Samsara on January 25, 2017, 08:53:21 AM: Just got done listening to the new firewind for the first time. Very good record. Basse isnt Apollo, but hes much better than the guy that first took over for Apollo (was it kelly sundown?)

Album and vocals are solid top to bottom. If you are a firewind fan, it delivers for sure. :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 25, 2017, 08:56:29 AM: That PV was ok, better than the first single. But really not feeling anything I'm hearing from this album and definitely wouldn't be picking it up

Kiske has clearly taken care of his voice over the years as he still sounds strong vocally.
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Post by: TAC on January 25, 2017, 09:12:53 AM: Well, I'll be getting it. Love Kiske, and the music is jusk ok enough to get by.

The beginning to Herafter reminded me a bit of UFO's WE Belong To The Night.
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Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2017, 04:12:59 PM: That Place Vendome song is a DGM cover. Why, I don't know.
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Post by: gazinwales on January 26, 2017, 01:29:17 AM: Firewind, nothing has ever done anything for me with them.
I've tried a few albums and to be brutally honest, I really think that they are lower second tier band.
Solid, unspectacular and nothing at all that sets them apart from the umpteen other power metal bands doing the same thing.
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Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2017, 03:48:52 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 26, 2017, 01:29:17 AM
Firewind, nothing has ever done anything for me with them.
I've tried a few albums and to be brutally honest, I really think that they are lower second tier band.
Solid, unspectacular and nothing at all that sets them apart from the umpteen other power metal bands doing the same thing.

Funny it seems like they are definitely one of those bands that some like myself really rate them or they just totally miss the mark.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 26, 2017, 05:23:03 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 26, 2017, 03:48:52 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on January 26, 2017, 01:29:17 AM
Firewind, nothing has ever done anything for me with them.
I've tried a few albums and to be brutally honest, I really think that they are lower second tier band.
Solid, unspectacular and nothing at all that sets them apart from the umpteen other power metal bands doing the same thing.

Funny it seems like they are definitely one of those bands that some like myself really rate them or they just totally miss the mark.

Like Hammerfall. Started to play the latest one earlier and enjoyed the first track but I got about a mi ute into the second and had to turn it off. That church hymn style chanting just makes me cringe. Played Herman Frank after it and that was much better
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 26, 2017, 07:04:10 PM: Just playing Halfords Live Insurrection cd.

This is a live album that doesn't get much attention, but IMO it's one of the best live metal albums of all time.

Rob is an absolute beast on this disc and it's one of my all time favorites.
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Post by: TAC on January 26, 2017, 07:30:07 PM: I don't have that one. I do have Live At Saitima Super Arena. Haven't played it in ages. I need to fix that.
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2017, 04:46:48 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 26, 2017, 07:04:10 PM
Just playing Halfords Live Insurrection cd.

This is a live album that doesn't get much attention, but IMO it's one of the best live metal albums of all time.

Rob is an absolute beast on this disc and it's one of my all time favorites.

Fucking brilliant live cd that one.

Quote from: TAC on January 26, 2017, 07:30:07 PM
I don't have that one. I do have Live At Saitima Super Arena. Haven't played it in ages. I need to fix that.

I quite like that live album too. That album got pretty average reviews, but I really enjoyed the more melodic rock side from it, some very cool songs on it.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 27, 2017, 06:47:19 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 26, 2017, 07:04:10 PM
Just playing Halfords Live Insurrection cd.

This is a live album that doesn't get much attention, but IMO it's one of the best live metal albums of all time.

Rob is an absolute beast on this disc and it's one of my all time favorites.

Played it a few weeks ago. Great live album. And great to hearBeyong The Realms Of Death on a live album with Rob. It should have been on Unleashed In The East. I have the original vinyl with it included as a bonus put bizarre to have left it off especially when it was remastered.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2017, 12:46:53 PM: Unleashed in the East would have been upgraded from a A+ to an A++ if Beyond was included
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Post by: Samsara on January 27, 2017, 02:00:00 PM: Agreed on Live Insurrection. Way underrated gem.
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2017, 05:17:25 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 27, 2017, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 26, 2017, 07:04:10 PM
Just playing Halfords Live Insurrection cd.

This is a live album that doesn't get much attention, but IMO it's one of the best live metal albums of all time.

Rob is an absolute beast on this disc and it's one of my all time favorites.

Played it a few weeks ago. Great live album. And great to hearBeyong The Realms Of Death on a live album with Rob. It should have been on Unleashed In The East. I have the original vinyl with it included as a bonus put bizarre to have left it off especially when it was remastered.

It just simply makes no sense not including this song on the actual album.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2017, 06:08:19 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2017, 12:46:53 PM
Unleashed in the East would have been upgraded from a A+ to an A++ if Beyond was included

So, Beyond an A+?

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2017, 10:20:17 PM: Voodoo Circle's new singer is Herbie Langhans, whoever that is. I'll have to check him out to see if he's any good.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 28, 2017, 02:53:55 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
Voodoo Circle's new singer is Herbie Langhans, whoever that is. I'll have to check him out to see if he's any good.

To see if he sounds like Coverdale, you mean? :biggrin:
He was on the Beyond The Bridge album that many here adore, and sang for Sinbreed. His voice with them not Whitesnake-like but he may have another voice I guess.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 28, 2017, 04:46:35 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 28, 2017, 02:53:55 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
Voodoo Circle's new singer is Herbie Langhans, whoever that is. I'll have to check him out to see if he's any good.

To see if he sounds like Coverdale, you mean? :biggrin:

Exactly! :lol
I just want someone with a good fitting rocking voice though, and not some generic power metal singer.

edit: I just watched a random Sinbreed song, and he sounds promising. Although it was a different style of music, I think he could be a good fit. Hopefully there's a single soon to judge.
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Post by: TAC on January 28, 2017, 07:41:45 AM: Sinbreed :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2017, 03:50:23 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
Voodoo Circle's new singer is Herbie Langhans, whoever that is. I'll have to check him out to see if he's any good.

With Readman out, not sure how much interest I'll have in this band anymore. Will still definitely check out some new material. Wasn't that keen on the last one like Blob was.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 29, 2017, 04:29:51 AM: I enjoyed all the samples I heard from Voodoo Circle, but never bought anything from them. Solid old school sound.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 29, 2017, 05:33:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2017, 03:50:23 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
Voodoo Circle's new singer is Herbie Langhans, whoever that is. I'll have to check him out to see if he's any good.

With Readman out, not sure how much interest I'll have in this band anymore. Will still definitely check out some new material. Wasn't that keen on the last one like Blob was.

Given how much I enjoyed the last album (and the one before that too), anything they do is an automatic listen from me, but my interest is definitely decreased with him out. Otherwise it would be my most anticipated new release.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 29, 2017, 04:15:56 PM: Voodoo Circle just posted a version of Heart of Stone (from the last album) with the new vocalist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUKYtq03ScU

Maybe it will be a bit better on new material that I haven't heard sung better, but nope. That rock style just doesn't come naturally to him.
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2017, 07:25:27 PM: Will listen later.

I picked up the Firewind on the weekend on and listened to the first half. Definitely very good, with amazing guitar work. Gus is becoming one of my fav current guitarists.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 30, 2017, 01:44:33 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 29, 2017, 04:15:56 PM
Voodoo Circle just posted a version of Heart of Stone (from the last album) with the new vocalist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUKYtq03ScU

Maybe it will be a bit better on new material that I haven't heard sung better, but nope. That rock style just doesn't come naturally to him.

I thought that sounded ok. Better than I expected after checking out Sinbreed.
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Post by: TAC on January 30, 2017, 05:52:11 PM: Wow, that Voodoo Circle was terrible. I thought the guitars sounded cool, but that is inferior to everything I already have that it is trying to sound like.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 30, 2017, 07:56:34 PM: It was the best hard rock album of the decade imo. Doesn't help hearing the song with those vocal though.
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2017, 10:53:31 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 30, 2017, 07:56:34 PM
It was the best hard rock album of the decade imo. Doesn't help hearing the song with those vocal though.

I'll have to find my copy and give it another spin.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 30, 2017, 11:05:42 PM: Because I'm sure you'll agree with me. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2017, 11:08:20 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 30, 2017, 11:05:42 PM
Because I'm sure you'll agree with me. :lol

Oh yeah, I forgot that one vital piece of information. :P I might not even bother and just it's crap now. :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 30, 2017, 11:12:59 PM: It would certainly save us some time. :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:09:23 AM: I wanted to listen to the new Kreator I bought on the weekend, but I just put the Voodoo Circle on instead to check out again. :biggrin:

1 minute in and fuck I love Readman's voice.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:15:32 AM: That Sykes solo in the first song is laughable, but brilliantly done at the same time.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 04:18:41 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:09:23 AM
1 minute in and fuck I love Readman's voice.

I still really need to check out some Pink Cream 69.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:29:35 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 04:18:41 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:09:23 AM
1 minute in and fuck I love Readman's voice.

I still really need to check out some Pink Cream 69.

He's done some really cool stuff.

The Almanac was really good last year, and even the early neo-classical stuff he did with Adagio was pretty impressive.

His solo album is defintiely one of my fav albums from him, if not my fav, check it out Blob. Has Alex Beyrodt featured which lead to teh incarnation of Voodoo Circle.

Up to Medicine Man, and this is a lot more impressive and dare I saw mature from this band. Maybe it just wasn't what I expected when it came out. The first song was killer with a great chorus. The second song was pretty generic but more enjoyable than what it was. Watch and Wait is definitely something original and gives me a late 80's vibe or something. Great songwriting on this one killer song structure. Medicine Man reminds me of Zakk era Ozzy too, which is great.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 04:33:43 AM: Yeah, I can see the Zakk comparison with that riff. Medicine Man is perhaps my favourite on the album. So much energy. Watch and Wait is also something a bit different for them, probably more influence from Zeppelin than taking it second hand from Whitesnake. :lol I also love Heartbreaking Woman, which is one of the more direct Whitesnake influenced tracks. I'm not a fan of track 5 at all.

Thanks for the suggestions on Readman. Wasn't even aware of any of those outside of PC69.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:39:23 AM: Heart of Stone is a good one too. I got through that one and then had a listen to the new guy, and he sounds terrible compared to Readman.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2017, 04:43:21 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:39:23 AM
Heart of Stone is a good one too. I got through that one and then had a listen to the new guy, and he sounds terrible compared to Readman.

He's a good singer but just doesn't have that warmth in his voice to pull off the Whitesnake thang.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 04:47:49 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:39:23 AM
Heart of Stone is a good one too. I got through that one and then had a listen to the new guy, and he sounds terrible compared to Readman.

Yeah, he's really not suited to this music. I think he's a good metal singer, but this is out of his wheelhouse.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:50:15 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 04:33:43 AM
Yeah, I can see the Zakk comparison with that riff. Medicine Man is perhaps my favourite on the album. So much energy. Watch and Wait is also something a bit different for them, probably more influence from Zeppelin than taking it second hand from Whitesnake. :lol I also love Heartbreaking Woman, which is one of the more direct Whitesnake influenced tracks. I'm not a fan of track 5 at all.

Thanks for the suggestions on Readman. Wasn't even aware of any of those outside of PC69.

If track 5 is the first ballad, I really enjoyed that one. Great chorus which reminds me heavily of something else but I can't figure it out.

Okay, Straight Shooter is more Whitesnake ripping, pretty standard but enjoyable. Now Rhythm of My Heart is a great smooth groove, again with terrific vocals, and Alex immitating Sykes. His Sykes solos are like him saying, "Look Dave, I could have filled that guitarist spot, so what if my hair isn't blonde." haha.

Quote from: bl5150 on January 31, 2017, 04:43:21 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:39:23 AM
Heart of Stone is a good one too. I got through that one and then had a listen to the new guy, and he sounds terrible compared to Readman.

He's a good singer but just doesn't have that warmth in his voice to pull off the Whitesnake thang.

Yeah, not at all. Unless the band are looking to change direction but re-recording this track with him certainly doesn't seem to indicate that.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 05:08:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:50:15 AM
If track 5 is the first ballad, I really enjoyed that one. Great chorus which reminds me heavily of something else but I can't figure it out.

Not sure. It reminds me of something, but it's probably not what you're thinking of. Admittedly I rarely got that far into the song because I always skip it based on the intro. Might need to give it another chance!

As I pointed out at the time, Straight Shooter is almost identical musically to one of the new Whitesnake songs on their first live album since reforming (I posted a comparison a while ago). I like the back and forth between vocalists in that one.
Rhythm of My Heart is obviously trying to be Ain't No Love in the Heart of the City, but is still a really good song.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 05:10:23 AM: Devil Takes me Down is another classic sounding track by the numbers, but isn't offensive and a nice listen. 5 O'Clock is very interesting with the chorus actually reminding me of Jimmy Barnes' stuff. Been Said and Done has a great mood and is a nice little stomper of a closer.

My copy has this track at 12 minutes which features another track which seems to be the bonus digipak track calld Coming Home to You. This is one of the best songs by far IMO, not sure why this wasn't on the actual album, brilliant. I remember discussing this with Blob when it came out and his version I believed didn't have this track. Get a hold of it Blob for sure. Also in this 12 minutes it has a nice little version of Ain't No Sunshine for some reason, but it's nice.

I remember listening to this album more than I thought when it came out and I'm glad I got it out again, it's a really nice, enjoyable album. Have to go back through the other 3 albums now.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 05:11:33 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 05:08:00 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:50:15 AM
If track 5 is the first ballad, I really enjoyed that one. Great chorus which reminds me heavily of something else but I can't figure it out.

Not sure. It reminds me of something, but it's probably not what you're thinking of. Admittedly I rarely got that far into the song because I always skip it based on the intro. Might need to give it another chance!

As I pointed out at the time, Straight Shooter is almost identical musically to one of the new Whitesnake songs on their first live album since reforming (I posted a comparison a while ago). I like the back and forth between vocalists in that one.
Rhythm of My Heart is obviously trying to be Ain't No Love in the Heart of the City, but is still a really good song.

I remember you posting that audio and I think I saved it somewhere on my pc. Have to find it.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 05:18:07 AM: Haha, found it, you called it Whitefake. Damn, exactly the fucking same though. :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 05:20:03 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 05:10:23 AM
Devil Takes me Down is another classic sounding track by the numbers, but isn't offensive and a nice listen. 5 O'Clock is very interesting with the chorus actually reminding me of Jimmy Barnes' stuff. Been Said and Done has a great mood and is a nice little stomper of a closer.

My copy has this track at 12 minutes which features another track which seems to be the bonus digipak track calld Coming Home to You. This is one of the best songs by far IMO, not sure why this wasn't on the actual album, brilliant. I remember discussing this with Blob when it came out and his version I believed didn't have this track. Get a hold of it Blob for sure. Also in this 12 minutes it has a nice little version of Ain't No Sunshine for some reason, but it's nice.

Yeah, my copy doesn't have that, it ends with Been Said and Done. I don't remember if I ever checked it out anywhere, but I'll do it again anyway. I'll probably disagree with you on it though. It's inevitable now. :lol
I really dig 5 O'clock. And since I don't listen to Been Said and Done, it makes for a great laid back closer for me.

Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 05:18:07 AM
Haha, found it, you called it Whitefake. Damn, exactly the fucking same though. :lol

Yup yup. :lol I love the band, but it is what it is. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2017, 01:33:07 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 04:18:41 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:09:23 AM
1 minute in and fuck I love Readman's voice.

I still really need to check out some Pink Cream 69.

Yes you do. Thunderdome :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2017, 03:19:38 PM: :metal
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 01, 2017, 09:39:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 01, 2017, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2017, 04:18:41 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2017, 04:09:23 AM
1 minute in and fuck I love Readman's voice.

I still really need to check out some Pink Cream 69.

Yes you do. Thunderdome :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

Alright, listening to it now. This one's on you. :lol
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Post by: Big Hath on February 01, 2017, 09:42:36 PM: great album
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 03, 2017, 12:02:10 AM: What's the opinion of Born Again by Black Sabbath?

So far:

Wolf: fucking fantastic

Paul: shit album

Brent: fucking dud

Jason: excellent album
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Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2017, 04:19:55 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 03, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
What's the opinion of Born Again by Black Sabbath?

So far:

Wolf: fucking fantastic

Paul: shit album

Brent: fucking dud

Jason: excellent album

You heard the man, more opinions please?
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Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2017, 04:20:50 AM: Check this. :rollin

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/styx-drummer-sued-for-allegedly-injuring-fan-with-drumstick-to-face/
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Post by: Bolsters on February 03, 2017, 04:45:09 AM: ::)
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Post by: Samsara on February 03, 2017, 01:02:54 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 03, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
What's the opinion of Born Again by Black Sabbath?

So far:

Wolf: fucking fantastic

Paul: shit album

Brent: fucking dud

Jason: excellent album

I need to buy it and listen...
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2017, 03:44:24 PM: Re: Born Again

It's a great EP. Disturbing The Priest is one of their best songs spanning all eras.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 03, 2017, 04:36:18 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on February 03, 2017, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 03, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
What's the opinion of Born Again by Black Sabbath?

So far:

Wolf: fucking fantastic

Paul: shit album

Brent: fucking dud

Jason: excellent album

I need to buy it and listen...

If you like Sabbath and/or Gillan, don't do it. One decent song (Trashed) and that's only ok.
Take anything that came after it.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2017, 08:07:56 PM: Sign me up!!

https://bravewords.com/news/john-bush-talks-possibility-of-doing-solo-tour-revisiting-anthrax-days-ive-entertained-it
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Post by: LudwigVan on February 03, 2017, 11:15:37 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 03, 2017, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on February 03, 2017, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 03, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
What's the opinion of Born Again by Black Sabbath?

So far:

Wolf: fucking fantastic

Paul: shit album

Brent: fucking dud

Jason: excellent album

I need to buy it and listen...

If you like Sabbath and/or Gillan, don't do it. One decent song (Trashed) and that's only ok.
Take anything that came after it.

I feel just the opposite. As a big fan of both Deep Purple MarkII era and early Sabbath, I think Born Again is a unique opportunity to hear Ian Gillan in a completely different context. While it may not be on the same level as a Paranoid or Heaven and Hell, I think it stands up quite well amongst the Sabbath ouevre.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 04, 2017, 02:43:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2017, 08:07:56 PM
Sign me up!!

https://bravewords.com/news/john-bush-talks-possibility-of-doing-solo-tour-revisiting-anthrax-days-ive-entertained-it

This would be very cool!
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Post by: TAC on February 04, 2017, 06:10:28 PM: There is no other thread in which I would like to make my

20,000th POST!!!!

Speaking of 20,000...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT4nTq4htu8
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 05, 2017, 12:45:02 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2017, 03:39:53 AM: Quote from: LudwigVan on February 03, 2017, 11:15:37 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 03, 2017, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on February 03, 2017, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 03, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
What's the opinion of Born Again by Black Sabbath?

So far:

Wolf: fucking fantastic

Paul: shit album

Brent: fucking dud

Jason: excellent album

I need to buy it and listen...

If you like Sabbath and/or Gillan, don't do it. One decent song (Trashed) and that's only ok.
Take anything that came after it.

I feel just the opposite. As a big fan of both Deep Purple MarkII era and early Sabbath, I think Born Again is a unique opportunity to hear Ian Gillan in a completely different context. While it may not be on the same level as a Paranoid or Heaven and Hell, I think it stands up quite well amongst the Sabbath ouevre.

Well said mate.

And congrats Tim!! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2017, 03:43:35 AM: New Sinner;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpBMNitstLo

More Moore/Lizzy influence than ever, but nice song IMO.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 05, 2017, 08:55:13 AM: Sinner had really been going for the Thin Lizzy sound on that last album. I guess they are continuing in that direction.

I don't know a lot of their material, but the song The Nature of Evil is very cool.
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Post by: TAC on February 05, 2017, 03:54:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 05, 2017, 03:43:35 AM
New Sinner;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpBMNitstLo

More Moore/Lizzy influence than ever, but nice song IMO.

Wow, no kidding!

Gary Moore and Thin Lizzy have made some of my all time favorite music. I like this! Who is the vocalist?

Great tune!

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 05, 2017, 08:55:13 AM
Sinner had really been going for the Thin Lizzy sound on that last album. I guess they are continuing in that direction.
Never heard them before. I'll have to check that out.
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Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2017, 04:43:45 AM: Mat Sinner, bass player from Primal Fear, and Voodoo Circle for that matter, since they have been discussed about recently.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2017, 11:19:31 AM: Don't think I heard the last album. Will have to check them out. Enjoyed that, but I do like a rocked up Celtic feel.
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Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2017, 04:28:50 AM: Looks like the Stryper hiatus isn't lasting too long;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/stryper-to-record-new-album-in-october/
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 08, 2017, 04:40:46 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 08, 2017, 04:28:50 AM
Looks like the Stryper hiatus isn't lasting too long;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/stryper-to-record-new-album-in-october/

:metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2017, 03:17:58 PM: Yeah, I ain't complaining!
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Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2017, 11:49:24 PM: Sorry about the delay with the podcast guys.......had a lot on my plate. It's been in the can for a while too but due to the shitty internet connection at our new place (and in Australia upload speeds are a fraction of already shitty download speeds) I have had to wait for my mobile/cell plan to tick over to a new month so I have the data allowance free on a speedier connection. I have also continued to discover some good new 2016 releases in recent weeks but you have to draw the line somewhere. If there's anything awesome I will include it in the 2017 show , assuming we do that. Given that the Top 40 is mostly obscure , this show will contain most of your favourites and I'm betting that pretty much everyone will find something new to like if you choose to invest the time.

Anyway......here's a new one for you.

https://yadi.sk/d/RZpP75UQ3CPL6z

As per usual the link is in the OP too so there's no need to find this post again later on. I am still finishing a Top 40-ish of 2016 countdown for another show but this is basically just a regular show - it just happens that 99% of the songs in it are from 2016. A "best of the rest" if you like. I have listened to it a number of times and am still enjoying it , so hopefully some of you will too. There is a bit more variety in styles than the average show - a number of songs will appeal to some and (very much) not others but that comes with the territory and with some knowledge of the varied tastes of our audience.

As per usual we appreciate any feedback , particularly for these themed/best of shows as they take many,many times longer to research/prepare than a regular show where I just pick semi-random stuff from my collection. Once I finish the other 2016 show that'll be it for these themed shows till late in the year. I may work on a Best of 1989 in the background during the year , just as I did for 1988 last year - just depends if I can find the time and motivation as the research is pretty time consuming . It's a bit of a labour of love though so I normally find an excuse. :)

Ben had plenty of input into the opening of the new show in particular - a new voiceover at the start and , in particular , a new years welcome designed especially for his buddy Tim ;)

In order not to blow the time out further I just quoted band names during the show rather than album and track names .......with a band name and knowing it's from 2016 it's not too hard to figure out. But I will post a full artist/album/track name list for the show in the near future.

Enjoy.
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Post by: Bolsters on February 12, 2017, 03:08:39 AM: I've downloaded it, might start listening later tonight or tomorrow. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2017, 03:44:56 AM: I'm flat out work wise at the moment, so will download this week and listen ASAP. :tup
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 05:20:58 AM: Listening now. Great start though never was a fan of the funky metal stuff, Extreme and that one great Electric Boys album.
Seems I liked the Anthrax more than you but I probably didn't listen to anywhere near as much stuff as you last year 😀. You are my hero.

And where you living to have such shit internet? Under Ayers Rock? 🙀
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Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 05:41:44 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 05:20:58 AM
Listening now. Great start though never was a fan of the funky metal stuff, Extreme and that one great Electric Boys album.
Seems I liked the Anthrax more than you but I probably didn't listen to anywhere near as much stuff as you last year . You are my hero.

And where you living to have such shit internet? Under Ayers Rock?

Where are you living to have such weird emoticons ? ;D

It very much does depend on where you live. Up until 2015 I was in an area with cable TV , which means fast internet. Now I am in an area without cable (we can get cable TV stations via satellite) and so it's copper wire (old phone line) based ADSL which has cut my speed by 90% or more. And then upload speeds are another degree slower. I have a mobile internet modem that I can use at 10-20 times the speed of my hard line , only issue is the data is super expensive.

Stupid thing is that a few kms around the corner they have fibre based internet , but that's only in small pockets and successive governments have ballsed up the rollout.

On a cricketing note Paul , today Ben and I met and had a chat to Bill Lawry at Ben's cricket club - ex Aussie captain and I assume you know him as a commentator. Got a photo or two with the great man.
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Post by: TAC on February 12, 2017, 07:45:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 11, 2017, 11:49:24 PM
Ben had plenty of input into the opening of the new show in particular - a new voiceover at the start and , in particular , a new years welcome designed especially for his buddy Tim ;)

:lol

Can't wait!

Downloading now..
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2017, 08:12:08 AM: Starts off good with a "heavy metal" scream from Ben
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2017, 08:12:59 AM: and a zinger for Tim
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Post by: TAC on February 12, 2017, 09:18:56 AM: :rollin

Very nice!

Is it 20(cues up Alice Cooper)18 yet?

A years worth of Winger?? You guys do know that other people are relying on the internet, right? You guys better not break it!
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Post by: Big Hath on February 12, 2017, 10:39:13 AM: 1.21 giga~~watts~~bytes!

Great Scott!!

(https://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/43108316455200225/C6B3827D675EF64D4627FE7EEB8706B2F87EFB77/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside%7C637:358&composite-to%3D*%2C*%7C637%3A358&background-color=black)
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 02:49:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 05:41:44 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 05:20:58 AM
Listening now. Great start though never was a fan of the funky metal stuff, Extreme and that one great Electric Boys album.
Seems I liked the Anthrax more than you but I probably didn't listen to anywhere near as much stuff as you last year . You are my hero.

And where you living to have such shit internet? Under Ayers Rock?

Where are you living to have such weird emoticons ? ;D

It very much does depend on where you live. Up until 2015 I was in an area with cable TV , which means fast internet. Now I am in an area without cable (we can get cable TV stations via satellite) and so it's copper wire (old phone line) based ADSL which has cut my speed by 90% or more. And then upload speeds are another degree slower. I have a mobile internet modem that I can use at 10-20 times the speed of my hard line , only issue is the data is super expensive.

Stupid thing is that a few kms around the corner they have fibre based internet , but that's only in small pockets and successive governments have ballsed up the rollout.

On a cricketing note Paul , today Ben and I met and had a chat to Bill Lawry at Ben's cricket club - ex Aussie captain and I assume you know him as a commentator. Got a photo or two with the great man.

Nice. Seems like a decent bloke.
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Post by: TAC on February 12, 2017, 03:19:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 11, 2017, 11:49:24 PM
As per usual we appreciate any feedback , particularly for these themed/best of shows as they take many,many times longer to research/prepare than a regular show where I just pick semi-random stuff from my collection. Once I finish the other 2016 show that'll be it for these themed shows till late in the year. I may work on a Best of 1989 in the background during the year , just as I did for 1988 last year - just depends if I can find the time and motivation as the research is pretty time consuming . It's a bit of a labour of love though so I normally find an excuse. :)

A 9 hour show?? Wow! Thank you Ben! And Brent. I had to delete Shadow Gallery and Symphony X just to get it on my iPod! :lol

A 1989 show would be awesome! Gary Moore, Armored Saint, Alice Cooper, Metal Church, Tesla....
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 03:54:17 PM: What was the track after Tyketto? The Yandex.Disk player is shit for going back to find things that my crap short term memory forgets 😁
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Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 04:20:20 PM: I didn't realise that anyone used the online player........cool.

I believe you're referring to Tygers of Pan Tang - Only The Brave
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 04:29:27 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 04:20:20 PM
I didn't realise that anyone used the online player........cool.

I believe you're referring to Tygers of Pan Tang - Only The Brave

I bought that album too 😁 Need to play it more. I'll need the full list as there's some good stuff here.

Love the Syu track. His playing just makes me laugh, in a good way. Galneryus are just mental 🤘🤘
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2017, 04:33:01 PM: 1.2 GB and a nine hour show, bloody hell. Might take me a while to get through.

Is it just me, or does it seem really light on for releases for the first quarter of 2017? Last year there seemed to be a new album every week that would warrant me checking out or buying but this year, things are starting off really slow.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 04:35:05 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 12, 2017, 04:33:01 PM
1.2 GB and a nine hour show, bloody hell. Might take me a while to get through.

Is it just me, or does it seem really light on for releases for the first quarter of 2017? Last year there seemed to be a new album every week that would warrant me checking out or buying but this year, things are starting off really slow.

Good. Hopefully there will be some quality control 😀. Del Vecchio must be on holiday or something
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2017, 04:39:03 PM: DelVicchio is Kade's Sith Lord
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Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 05:24:58 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 04:20:20 PM
I didn't realise that anyone used the online player........cool.

I believe you're referring to Tygers of Pan Tang - Only The Brave

I bought that album too Need to play it more. I'll need the full list as there's some good stuff here.

Love the Syu track. His playing just makes me laugh, in a good way. Galneryus are just mental

Yup - will get a list up for you once a few of you are through it. The list is another GB ;D

I'm listening along with you (again) ...... I'm really enjoying a whole year (almost) in one show .
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Post by: TAC on February 12, 2017, 05:32:54 PM: At 9 hours, it'll be a while to get through it!

No idea who requested F&J? :lol Is Ben writing your script? :lol

Ghostlights :metal Holy hell Kiske! :hefdaddy
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Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 05:38:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 12, 2017, 05:32:54 PM

No idea who requested F&J? :lol Is Ben writing your script? :lol

Not Ben - my sarcastic alter ego ;D
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Post by: TAC on February 12, 2017, 05:39:35 PM: Brent, your thoughts on Dust To Dust?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 05:52:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 12, 2017, 05:39:35 PM
Brent, your thoughts on Dust To Dust?

Very solid Tim - plenty of Helloween-isms in there too. You may have recommended it to me. I think I posted up their previous album (Sign Of The Winner) and you might have suggested this one is better and I would agree. It's been on my list of albums to get to for months. Rated it 87% and there's enough going on that it may grow a bit more if I had the time to replay a few times.
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Post by: TAC on February 12, 2017, 05:54:29 PM: Sign Of the Winner is incredible though. But Dust To Dust is a next level up.
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2017, 06:50:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 05:52:10 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 12, 2017, 05:39:35 PM
Brent, your thoughts on Dust To Dust?

Very solid Tim - plenty of Helloween-isms in there too. You may have recommended it to me. I think I posted up their previous album (Sign Of The Winner) and you might have suggested this one is better and I would agree. It's been on my list of albums to get to for months. Rated it 87% and there's enough going on that it may grow a bit more if I had the time to replay a few times.

Will definitely have to dig my copy out then.
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2017, 06:53:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 04:35:05 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 12, 2017, 04:33:01 PM
1.2 GB and a nine hour show, bloody hell. Might take me a while to get through.

Is it just me, or does it seem really light on for releases for the first quarter of 2017? Last year there seemed to be a new album every week that would warrant me checking out or buying but this year, things are starting off really slow.

Good. Hopefully there will be some quality control 😀. Del Vecchio must be on holiday or something

Hopefully he can have an extended break. I'm pretty sure he's involved in a couple of Frontier albums coming up, I just haven't taken much notice.

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 12, 2017, 04:39:03 PM
DelVicchio is Kade's Sith Lord

haha
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Post by: TAC on February 12, 2017, 07:05:56 PM: The Wardrum track is really interesting. I like it!

The track with JR was awesome!

I checked that Trees Of Eternity earlier this year. It's a unique album.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 10:52:49 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 02:49:26 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 05:41:44 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 05:20:58 AM
Listening now. Great start though never was a fan of the funky metal stuff, Extreme and that one great Electric Boys album.
Seems I liked the Anthrax more than you but I probably didn't listen to anywhere near as much stuff as you last year . You are my hero.

And where you living to have such shit internet? Under Ayers Rock?

Where are you living to have such weird emoticons ? ;D

It very much does depend on where you live. Up until 2015 I was in an area with cable TV , which means fast internet. Now I am in an area without cable (we can get cable TV stations via satellite) and so it's copper wire (old phone line) based ADSL which has cut my speed by 90% or more. And then upload speeds are another degree slower. I have a mobile internet modem that I can use at 10-20 times the speed of my hard line , only issue is the data is super expensive.

Stupid thing is that a few kms around the corner they have fibre based internet , but that's only in small pockets and successive governments have ballsed up the rollout.

On a cricketing note Paul , today Ben and I met and had a chat to Bill Lawry at Ben's cricket club - ex Aussie captain and I assume you know him as a commentator. Got a photo or two with the great man.

Nice. Seems like a decent bloke.

One of the questions from crowd was what he thought of womens cricket and football. "Absolute crap" was his response A different (less PC) generation :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on February 13, 2017, 02:44:18 AM: 😁 only an Aussie or Donald trump would not give a shit in this day and age.

Not heard those Heavenly albums, I just have the one with the two ladies who are very close on the cover... it's good.
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Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2017, 04:10:35 AM: Hell yeah Brent, Bill Lawry! :metal

I share his opinions on womens cricket and footy too. ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on February 13, 2017, 05:47:05 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 13, 2017, 04:10:35 AM
Hell yeah Brent, Bill Lawry! :metal

I share his opinions on womens cricket and footy too. ;D

Indeed. Guitar playing too, it just doesn't look right. There are some good players out there in Internet land but there's something not right about it.
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Post by: Big Hath on February 13, 2017, 02:13:36 PM: I'm through almost 2 hours of the show so far . . .

I love Pornograffiti - such a great album.

Surprised that Wolverine track made it through, same with the Universal Mind Project, but for completely different reasons. But you did say you were going for some diversity. I remember sampling some of that UMP album when it was released but I didn't find much to interest me.

I really like that Tygers album.
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Post by: TAC on February 13, 2017, 02:21:12 PM: I just cannot get into Extreme.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 13, 2017, 02:33:49 PM: I liked that Wolverine track. They are a bit miserable for me but ok in small doses.

Pornograffitti is a great album. Made my top 50.

TAC is wrong. Again 😀
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Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2017, 03:42:42 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on February 13, 2017, 02:13:36 PM

Surprised that Wolverine track made it through..............

Wolverine are considered prog metal (although as I said , not very metallic) - it just happens that my favourite track was a pretty soft one and I do like to use soft tracks/ballads here and there to change things up. If you're referring to the Wolverine being rubbish , then I obviously disagree. :)

Wait "til you get to the letter "L" for things that shouldn't have got through :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 13, 2017, 04:20:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 13, 2017, 02:21:12 PM
I just cannot get into Extreme.

me neither
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Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2017, 05:09:13 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 13, 2017, 02:33:49 PM
I liked that Wolverine track. They are a bit miserable for me but ok in small doses.

Pornograffitti is a great album. Made my top 50.

TAC is wrong. Again

Made my Top 50 too

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 13, 2017, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 13, 2017, 02:21:12 PM
I just cannot get into Extreme.

me neither

I was going to say that maybe it's a guitarist thing......I know that I often appreciate bands with a great guitarist more than so than someone who has never played.......but then Chad had them in his Top 50 too , so that disproves that rule.

Great band though IMHO and just another example of how similar and different our tastes are at the same time. That's why some of these shows get long because I know that if I just went with my absolute favourites that you guys would likely miss out on the ones that will be yours. And everyones tend to be different of course. All I try and do is act as some sort of quality filter , some might say with limited success at times :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 13, 2017, 05:18:21 PM: Maybe the next show can be 15 hours long lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2017, 05:20:31 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 13, 2017, 05:18:21 PM
Maybe the next show can be 15 hours long lol

Done :xbones

The next one should be around 4 hrs actually..........maybe longer if I decide to add a bonus super duper live show that I have been meaning to use,.
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Post by: Big Hath on February 13, 2017, 05:34:06 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 13, 2017, 05:09:13 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 13, 2017, 02:33:49 PM
I liked that Wolverine track. They are a bit miserable for me but ok in small doses.

Pornograffitti is a great album. Made my top 50.

TAC is wrong. Again

Made my Top 50 too

ditto!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 13, 2017, 07:15:53 PM: I'll try Porograffiti again
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Post by: TAC on February 13, 2017, 07:50:10 PM: I won't!

They are a great band and had built a great club following around here in the early 80's. But they just don't seem to translate to studio releases. That Presidents song is pretty good, but they just sound so dry. I've heard Pornograffiti and III Sides and it just doesn't grab me. Not my thing, I guess.
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Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2017, 11:08:32 PM: I had a listen to half of that Heavenly album Dust to Dust and didn't do much for me again. Solid power metal but that's about it. I might try it again though as it could have potential. LOTS of Gamma Ray similarities going on though.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 14, 2017, 02:28:48 AM: To each their own but Extreme is just a great band, I just wish they would be more active.
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Post by: wolfking on February 14, 2017, 04:22:39 AM: Another Place Vendome song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP8sc68kG2Y

meh.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 14, 2017, 04:40:45 AM: I enjoyed that sunburst tack. I see it's the guitarist and singer with Black Fate. I could hear the Khan thing in the vocal and thought it was Black Fate.
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Post by: Samsara on February 14, 2017, 08:25:06 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on February 14, 2017, 02:28:48 AM
To each their own but Extreme is just a great band, I just wish they would be more active.

Your words to Gary and Nuno's ears. Seriously. Extreme is a GREAT band. Saw them headline in 2008 on the Saudes de Rock tour with King's X opening. been almost 10 years now. WAYYYYY too long. Love their catalog, particularly the first four (Saudes de Rock is my least favorite).
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 14, 2017, 08:56:26 AM: Saw them twice a long time ago, a small show during the pornograffitti tour and a festival right before Punchline was released (with Mangini on drums). Both were killer shows. :metal

My favorite changes between III sides and Punchline.

I just don't understand why they don't make records on a more regular basis. Nuno's stuff with Mourning Widows, Population 1 and solo was good, but it wasn't the same.
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Post by: Samsara on February 14, 2017, 09:18:51 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on February 14, 2017, 08:56:26 AM
Saw them twice a long time ago, a small show during the pornograffitti tour and a festival right before Punchline was released (with Mangini on drums). Both were killer shows. :metal

My favorite changes between III sides and Punchline.

I just don't understand why they don't make records on a more regular basis. Nuno's stuff with Mourning Widows, Population 1 and solo was good, but it wasn't the same.

I wasn't a fan of Nuno's solo stuff. It's OK, I don't hate it, just not a huge fan. I really enjoyed Tribe of Judah and...oh man, name is escaping me, the other more hard rock side band Gary had after that. Ugh...old fogey moment.

III Sides is my clear-cut favorite. I mean, Am I Ever Gonna Change is one of the best songs ever recorded in my opinion. But Warheads, Stop the World, Cupid's Dead, Rest in Peace...just an amazing record.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 14, 2017, 10:39:52 AM: I have that Tribe Of Judah record, I remember thinking it wasn't bad but didn't revisit it often. Honestly can't recall one track from memory.

The Nuno stuff was better imo, especially Furnished Souls For Rent, it wasn't as good as the original band but it was the closest thing to Extreme musical wise apart from Extreme themselves.

Agreeing on Am I Ever Gonna Change, best Extreme song and one of my alltime favorites. The whole suite is great. And yes, Warheads, Cupid's Dead, Peacemaker Die, Stop The World are all amazing songs.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 14, 2017, 01:37:56 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on February 14, 2017, 08:25:06 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on February 14, 2017, 02:28:48 AM
To each their own but Extreme is just a great band, I just wish they would be more active.

Your words to Gary and Nuno's ears. Seriously. Extreme is a GREAT band. Saw them headline in 2008 on the Saudes de Rock tour with King's X opening. been almost 10 years now. WAYYYYY too long. Love their catalog, particularly the first four (Saudes de Rock is my least favorite).

The recent Pornograffitti live DVD was awesome. Saw them a couple of times back in the day, on the Porno and III Sides tours. By III Sides they had the horn section etc and it was a bit too overblown and was losing the rocking element I thought.
Absolutely hated Punchline. Still do. It just wasn't a style of music I liked.
Audades was ok.
I only have Schizophonic of Nuno's solo stuff and that was worse than Punchline.
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2017, 03:05:29 PM: Day off tomorrow. Hopefully I can get through some more of the 2016 podcast. Still in the U's.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 03:26:10 PM: There is only one U so you won't be there long :D

I liked everything from Extreme up to III Sides and dropped them pretty quick after Punchline , just like Queensryche after HINTF. I am very loyal ;D I have never even heard American Soldier but based on some of the chat , maybe I should.

I have never seen Extreme but had tickets to a (cancelled) gig a couple of years ago. Depending on the story ......either tickets weren't selling (which is crazy seeing Steel Panther can sell out a place 3 times the size) or Nuno got RiRi call. Either way I was disappointed , especially after seeing their Boston Live DVD from recent years which is killer.

Saw GnR last night along with 80,000 others - will get back to that later
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 05:04:55 PM: So - Gunners.

I have mixed feelings about the gig. The band arrived on stage almost an hour late - surprise,surprise. I am not sure whether that was a matter of waiting for the sun to set or perhaps Axl was getting a foot massage but either way , Axl leaves with his reputation in tact. During the 90 mins leading up we had non stop Barry White through the speakers so I was just about passed out by the time they got on.

Then the announcer from Spinal Tap comes on and says "HELLOOOOOO SYDNEY". One way to piss of a group of Melbournians is to call then "Sydney".

Then they started with It's So Easy which was a pretty flat opener really.

At this point we realise that , as expected , the outdoor football ground colosseum of the MCG has awful acoustics and to top it off the sound is way too loud and distorted. During the first 30-40% of the gig I was starting to wonder if I had grown out of GnR but they won me back gradually - especially after I put some ear plugs in which filtered out a lot of the noise and allowed me to hear what Axl was doing. To some extent the softer songs were the highlights as I could actually hear what was going on.

Random thoughts.......

Song Of The Night: Sweet Child (their biggest hit here easily) followed by Paradise City

Bright Spot : Axl's teeth

Weird Spot : Axl's "banter". When addressing the crowd he turns from a raging frontman into a mumbling hermit.

Best Guitarist Of The Night: obviously Slash came up with the iconic melodies etc... but Fortus is clearly a better technical player

Most Wardrobe Changes: Axl must've changed a dozen times

Axl's Performance: his voice seems in great shape , so a tick. Looks like the face has had plenty of work :lol

Overall I am glad that I went but when the sound is as bad as it was , it ruins a large part of it.

You could argue that the songs are better written etc...and that an outdoor gig with 80,000 people is amazing but I would still take KISS indoors with 10,000 people, better sound , better pyro and much more crowd involvement.

Will post a photo/vid or two later.

Setlist : https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/guns-n-roses/2017/melbourne-cricket-ground-melbourne-australia-6bf86e46.html

PS Local boy Angus Young dropping by for a couple of songs was cool too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 14, 2017, 05:46:17 PM: Does anyone think the reunited Guns n Roses will release any new material, or will they just stick with live shows.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 05:57:36 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 14, 2017, 05:46:17 PM
Does anyone think the reunited Guns n Roses will release any new material, or will they just stick with live shows.

Well they are getting one off crowds this time around (due to the multi decade gap) but after this tour is done , if they want to maintain this sort of interest , new material is probably the one way they could milk it again ............if the new material is good.

Initially I think there was no intention for new material but supposedly they are getting along much better than anticipated , so it has to be a chance.
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2017, 06:10:19 PM: Brent, I watched Riff Raff from the Sydney show. There seemed to have some serious pacing issues between the 3 guitarists. In fact the only ones locked in seemed to be the drummer (whoever that is) and Angus. I must say that Slash could not look less interested.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 06:21:59 PM: It would be pretty tough with 3 guitarists with shit sound in an open air arena. I didn't notice much but then I couldn't make out much either :lol

Slash is never what I would call animated - if anything he ran around the stage and looked a bit more into it than normal.

Perhaps during the Angus spot he was happy to leave it mostly to Angus.

I'll see if I have anything decent on my phone as I did take a little bit of video during the Angus spot. We were up pretty high in the stands but I was thankful for that really. It just would've been tiring down in the pit ........and watching a sea of phones.
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2017, 06:33:02 PM: Oh boy, the three songs after Testament... :|
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 06:46:30 PM: :metal
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2017, 07:03:22 PM: (https://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i57/2/11/2/frabz-hmm-somethings-not-quite-right-c3890b.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 07:05:16 PM: I think I can say that I predicted your reaction :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2017, 07:08:28 PM: :lol

Yeah, that Tent song, I was thinking you had that mixed up with your 1989 tracks!

Wait, did you just introduce Sunburst? I swear you said at the beginning of the podcast that you were not including them.

Only 7 hours left! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 07:16:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 14, 2017, 07:08:28 PM
:lol

Yeah, that Tent song, I was thinking you had that mixed up with your 1989 tracks!

Wait, did you just introduce Sunburst? I swear you said at the beginning of the podcast that you were not including them.

Only 7 hours left! :lol

You're getting your Sun's mixed up..................Sunstorm was left out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 14, 2017, 07:26:47 PM: listening to a 9 hour podcast can cause that lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 07:31:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 14, 2017, 07:26:47 PM
listening to a 9 hour podcast can cause that lol

Rubbish - listening to it in 9 minute bits is the problem :P ;D

Seriously though ..............back in the day I only listened to one show (I wasn't an avid radio listener) and they did one 3 hour show each Sunday night , so 12 hours a month where I basically needed to listen to it live.

You guys get a 5-9 hr show once every 6-8 weeks on average that you can listen to at your leisure and it's all too much.

Pussies ;D
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2017, 07:34:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 07:16:23 PM

You're getting your Sun's mixed up..................Sunstorm was left out.
:facepalm:

Sunrise, Sunburst, but not Sunstorm. Ahh, I get it! :lol

Quote from: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 07:31:00 PM
Pussies ;D

It wasn't always that way. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 14, 2017, 07:34:45 PM: I think everyone agrees that your shows should be listened to on a much bigger scale
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2017, 07:35:48 PM: #iheartbenandbrentradio

Trending!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 14, 2017, 07:38:45 PM: seriously lets go about making the Brent and Ben show the biggest metal podcast in the world!
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 10:25:44 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 14, 2017, 07:38:45 PM
seriously lets go about making the Brent and Ben show the biggest metal podcast in the world!

Ben will love some of these comments when I show him :tup

The Melbourne/Sydney GnR snafu has already hit blabbermouth.

Video on the page shows how well it went down

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-booed-after-calling-out-wrong-city-in-australia-video/
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 14, 2017, 11:04:40 PM: I don't know how anyone could be too upset at that. That's just pure Spinal Tap heavy metal comedy
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Post by: Big Hath on February 14, 2017, 11:39:23 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 14, 2017, 10:25:44 PM
The Melbourne/Sydney GnR snafu has already hit blabbermouth.

Video on the page shows how well it went down

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-booed-after-calling-out-wrong-city-in-australia-video/

they played the audio on the local sports station on the radio this afternoon. Hilarious!
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Post by: Lowdz on February 15, 2017, 02:34:59 AM: Dave Lee Roth used to fuck up the city name every night!

I remember it used to happen at the Monsters of a Rock festival all the time. American bands would refer to the crowd as "London" even though it was a good 150 miles away. Just next door in the US and Australia perhaps, but a few counties away here :biggrin:

And an hour late? That's early for Axl.

Can't remember the three tracks after Testament. I haven't heard anything I have had to skip yet.
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 04:34:32 AM: New Blaze Bayley song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iep8-Guxmm0

Frontiers quality video, but the song is actually really good.
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 05:30:48 AM: I saw Iron Maiden in Providence on the No Prayer tour and Bruce Dickinson greeted the crowd with ,"How're ya doin' Rochester?"
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Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 05:37:32 AM: Anywhere else in Australia than Sydney or Melbourne and it wouldn't have raised as much of a mention. The Sydney/Melbourne thing is a unique , sometimes caustic rivalry. The capital city of Australia is Canberra and aside from a bunch of wanker politicians there's really not much there. So the two genuine major cities have always had a complex about which is the real key Australian city. They each have their advantages and the residents of each tend to be very parochial. So to call us Sydney wasn't the smartest way to get 80,000 Melbournians on side :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 15, 2017, 05:57:44 AM: The two cities of Cologne and Düsseldorf have a rivalry that dates back some hundred years. Bands from Cologne always greet their audience in Düsseldorf with "Hallo Köln" (Köln=Cologne) and vice versa. Not really funny but on the whole just no big thing.

And that Axl is an ass is nothing new either. But good for you Brent that you enjoyed it. I have very fond memories of my GnR concert on the Use Your Illusions tour, but I'm not sure if I want to see them again for fear of tainting those memories.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:10:53 AM: The Use Your Illusion gig here is so infamous in these parts that it had its own website. This was a breeze compared to that one :lol

I can't seem to find said website (perhaps expired) but this page and the comments below will give some idea of the day we had. And for Tim 42 degrees = 108 F ;)

https://www.rawrootsrock.com.au/?os_articles=great-gigs-guns-n-roses-calder-park-1993

Another thing I remember was dopey Aussie comedian "Norman Gunston" interviewing the band at the press conference :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mh8HThNHdY
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 06:20:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:10:53 AM
And for Tim 42 degrees = 108 F ;)
:lol

Thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 06:25:29 AM: So I'm on the fence about going to see Metallica. The good thing is it's on a Friday so babysitter no issue and my wife won't have to go to work the next day. It's at Gillette Stadium which is easy to get to from here, about 20 minutes away. Though parking is a bitch and walking at least a mile to the stadium sucks.

But it's at the stadium. This would've been much better had this been an arena show. Not interested in being so far away from the band. Plus, tickets are RIDICULOUSLY expensive. I can't ask my wife to shell out over $300 for tickets for this. Add in parking and beers, this will easily be over $400.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2017, 06:25:41 AM: I remember when I saw the Axl lead Gunners a few years ago, he must have been over an hour late as well. But he put on a near three hour show
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Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:29:52 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2017, 06:25:29 AM
So I'm on the fence about going to see Metallica. The good thing is it's on a Friday so babysitter no issue and my wife won't have to go to work the next day. It's at Gillette Stadium which is easy to get to from here, about 20 minutes away. Though parking is a bitch and walking at least a mile to the stadium sucks.

But it's at the stadium. This would've been much better had this been an arena show. Not interested in being so far away from the band. Plus, tickets are RIDICULOUSLY expensive. I can't ask my wife to shell out over $300 for tickets for this. Add in parking and beers, this will easily be over $400.

I didn't drink last night (although I partook in some awesome jam donuts) - my sister had a plastic cup of bourbon and Coke - $15 ::)
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 06:35:14 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:29:52 AM
awesome jam donut

(https://sprinklefamilyband.com/rebagel/Donut_Strat.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2017, 06:35:30 AM: I would probably pass on Metallica as well
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 06:41:08 AM: Brent, definitely would've swapped out Seven with Seven Sisters. Damn I love that album and became one of my favorites of the year. Great mix of Def Leppard's and Iron Maiden's debuts.

Nice call on including Theocracy. My AOTY.

Missed on Rising Steel. I loved that album.

The track after Running Wild is awesome!

The singer in the track after Punky Meadows sounds like Ozzy.

Metal Church..nice!

And confirmed..Megadeth in the Top 40!
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 08:45:13 AM: @ BEN!
If your Dad ever tries to put Labrock on another podcast, please call your Mom, the police, or somebody, but whatever you do, don't let him do it!
Tell him even Winger would be better!
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Post by: Samsara on February 15, 2017, 09:04:23 AM: So if any of you remember Fifth Angel, they are doing their first live U.S. show together in 30 years on April 22, as a warm-up gig before playing the Keep it True Festival in Germany the following weekend.

Real short story -- Fifth Angel is from the Seattle area and was my first favorite band before Queensryche. Fifth Angel's self-titled debut is one of my favorite records of all-time, and the follow up, Time Will Tell, is pretty damn good too (albeit it a little too slick). They broke up back in 1989, and reunited in 2010. I did some interviews with those guys over the years, and got to be friends with them all. Really good dudes. After headlining Keep it True in 2010, they went their separate ways a year later.

They reunited this year with the Time Will Tell lineup, and the same singer they used for that show in 2010 -- Peter Orullian -- the man writing The Astonishing novel. Peter learned the songs in three days before 2010 and did a good job. The current lineup of the band is:

Ken Mary (drums), Ed Archer (rhythm and lead guitars), John Macko (bass), Kendall Bechtel (lead and rhythm guitars, background vocals) and the aforementioned Peter Orullian (lead vocals).

So if you're in the Seattle area, and love old school U.S. power metal, mark April 22 on the calendar. They are headlining at El Corazon.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 09:13:06 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2017, 08:45:13 AM
@ BEN!
If your Dad ever tries to put Labrock on another podcast, please call your Mom, the police, or somebody, but whatever you do, don't let him do it!
Tell him even Winger would be better!

:lol

I told you "wait for letter L" ............
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2017, 09:41:06 AM: Brian, any talk of studio activity from Fifth Angel?
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Post by: Samsara on February 15, 2017, 10:26:48 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 15, 2017, 09:41:06 AM
Brian, any talk of studio activity from Fifth Angel?

Yep, there's a ton of material. Nothing is finished, but they've got something like 25-30 ideas in various stages dating back to 2010. I've heard a good bunch of Ed's material, and some of the ideas John has. I am sure Kendall has a bunch of ideas too. Ed's always been the primary music writer though, if I recall correctly. It'll be interesting if they get around to finishing up a record. I think with Ken Mary's involvement and contacts, that may be a reality now. But we'll see, I guess.

I'd love to describe the demos more accurately, but that's not for me to do/say. Again, I haven't heard anything recently -- they could be totally different now, particularly with Peter now entrenched as singer (the demos I heard were instrumental, and others featured singers that were working with the band previously).
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2017, 10:37:21 AM: Copy. Would be cool if something did get released, but after almost 30 years of nothing, you can't really get your hopes up lol
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Post by: Samsara on February 15, 2017, 10:57:31 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 15, 2017, 10:37:21 AM
Copy. Would be cool if something did get released, but after almost 30 years of nothing, you can't really get your hopes up lol

Exactly. I mean, any sort of release isn't going to set the world on fire. But with 4/5 of the Time Will Tell lineup in place, and the connections Ken has, the likelihood of new music from Fifth Angel (as long as Peter is committed to it) is higher than it has ever been in the previous decade or so. Fingers crossed. But there's no timeline. My complete guess is (I haven't asked them) it'll be 2019 or so. Maybe, if we're LUCKY, end of 2018. Peter has The Astonishing and other books to write, the guys all have day jobs, etc.

The nice thing is, as long as Ken Mary has his studio (I think he still does, not sure), drums should not a problem to record, and with pro tools, the rest can be done in-house basically, except for hiring someone good to do the mix, and the mastering. Since Ken is still in the music business, if Fifth Angel has a record fully done and paid for, it's a hell of a lot easier to negotiate a distribution deal with a label that doesn't have to pay for studio time.

So I think we'll eventually get something. :D
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2017, 11:25:31 AM: As long as the guys in Fifth Angel aren't asking Crimson Glory advice on releasing albums, I think they should be ok
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Post by: Lowdz on February 15, 2017, 01:17:18 PM: I've got the 1stFifth Angel on vinyl from back on release. The 2nd on cd.
Great band.
A new album could be great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 15, 2017, 01:19:30 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on February 15, 2017, 05:57:44 AM
The two cities of Cologne and Düsseldorf have a rivalry that dates back some hundred years. Bands from Cologne always greet their audience in Düsseldorf with "Hallo Köln" (Köln=Cologne) and vice versa. Not really funny but on the whole just no big thing.

And that Axl is an ass is nothing new either. But good for you Brent that you enjoyed it. I have very fond memories of my GnR concert on the Use Your Illusions tour, but I'm not sure if I want to see them again for fear of tainting those memories.

If you call a venue in Scotland England, you're not getting out alive.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 15, 2017, 01:23:10 PM: Not got as far as the Ps yet (or is it the Ms? 😀), but the Punky Meadows should be in the top 40. Top 10 for me last year.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on February 15, 2017, 02:32:02 PM: I'm about halfway through.

Omnium Gatherum :metal Although that track sounded like a bad mp3.

Is it just me or does it seem like every song on that Michael Sweet album begins with some sort of drum fill or roll or something?

I like that dark sinister sound of the Metal Church track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 02:37:36 PM: That Michael Sweet track was excellent.

Oh, and Hath, that sig is TOTALLY taken out of context! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on February 15, 2017, 02:40:03 PM: I don't always change my sig, but when I do it's because TAC LOVES HIM SOME WINGER!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 02:44:16 PM: :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on February 15, 2017, 02:51:10 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on February 15, 2017, 02:40:03 PM
I don't always change my sig, but when I do it's because TAC LOVES HIM SOME WINGER!

I always knew TAC has a thing for bass players with chest hair.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2017, 02:53:29 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 03:11:50 PM: Ahem, back to the podcast..

The Divine W_____(?) track was awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 03:37:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 15, 2017, 01:23:10 PM
Not got as far as the Ps yet (or is it the Ms? 😀), but the Punky Meadows should be in the top 40. Top 10 for me last year.

I just went with first letter , whether band name or solo artist

Quote from: Big Hath on February 15, 2017, 02:32:02 PM
I'm about halfway through.

Omnium Gatherum :metal Although that track sounded like a bad mp3.

I did wonder about that ........I have the album in 320 and like most recent releases it's rather muddy , but that track seems worse. Wasn't sure if it was the file or not.

Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2017, 03:11:50 PM
Ahem, back to the podcast..

The Divine W_____(?) track was awesome.

Divine Winger
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 03:51:21 PM: :lol

You suck! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 03:54:21 PM: Not as much as you blow :biggrin:

The band was called Divine Weep. That's brought to mind a cool name for an AOR band. Divine Wimp :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 04:26:03 PM: Gotta download this podcast quick. Will get around to it Brent, work busting my balls lately and worked 14 days straight so far and a few more to go. Sounds like some great shit all round.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 04:28:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 04:26:03 PM
Sounds like some great shit all round.

Except for Labrock! I mean Kingshmegland would love it!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 04:49:35 PM: I have no idea who Labrock are.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 05:07:00 PM: There you go Kade

(https://www.lumpymail.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Round-Tuit.jpg)

That's what my Dad gave me every time I said I would get a "round tuit" >:(

Quote from: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 04:49:35 PM
I have no idea who Labrock are.

I put in in there mostly for Bolsters who likes his synths....and to piss off Tim ;D Think very cheesy 80's soundtrack AOR - done very well but not rocking at all really.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 05:33:51 PM: haha nice Brent.

The Labrock sounds quite interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:27:49 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 05:33:51 PM
haha nice Brent.

The Labrock sounds quite interesting.

it's interesting to me in that it doesn't sound like a modern band trying and failing to recreate that era - it literally sounds like it's from that era. Having grown up during that time I find it pretty cool to be transported back in time like that even if the music isn't my normal style. After you listen to it you might want to go and put on Top Gun or something :lol

They might be named after Kelly LeBrock :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on February 15, 2017, 06:37:26 PM: I figured when I saw complaints about "Labrock" that it would have to be LeBrock. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:42:55 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on February 15, 2017, 06:37:26 PM
I figured when I saw complaints about "Labrock" that it would have to be LeBrock. :lol

I can't even remember - did I put you onto them and did you like it?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on February 15, 2017, 06:48:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:42:55 PM
I can't even remember - did I put you onto them and did you like it?
I'm not sure if they're one I got from you or that I found on Bandcamp. But I do like.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 06:49:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 05:33:51 PM
haha nice Brent.

The Labrock sounds quite interesting.

it's interesting to me in that it doesn't sound like a modern band trying and failing to recreate that era - it literally sounds like it's from that era. Having grown up during that time I find it pretty cool to be transported back in time like that even if the music isn't my normal style. After you listen to it you might want to go and put on Top Gun or something :lol

They might be named after Kelly LeBrock :lol

I don't think I've ever sat down and watched Top Gun from beginning to end.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:54:44 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on February 15, 2017, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 06:42:55 PM
I can't even remember - did I put you onto them and did you like it?
I'm not sure if they're one I got from you or that I found on Bandcamp. But I do like.

Yeah I did - linked them in the same PM as the kerrang stuff. Glad you like :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2017, 07:08:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 05:33:51 PM
The Labrock sounds quite interesting.

Not really! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on February 15, 2017, 08:52:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on February 15, 2017, 02:32:02 PM
I'm about halfway through.

Omnium Gatherum :metal Although that track sounded like a bad mp3.

I did wonder about that ........I have the album in 320 and like most recent releases it's rather muddy , but that track seems worse. Wasn't sure if it was the file or not.

it has to be a bad file. Just listened to the file I ripped to my PC and it definitely doesn't sound like that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 04:39:30 AM: Downloading the podcast now. :metal

Also, just wanted to pimp the new Firewind album. It's fucking blistering and I can't stop listening to it, fast becoming one of my favourites.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2017, 05:56:47 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 04:26:03 PM
Will get around to it Brent,

Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 05:07:00 PM
That's what my Dad gave me every time I said I would get a "round tuit" >:(

I got a round tuit! Really! ;D

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3302_zpsmivwycad.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3302_zpsmivwycad.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2017, 06:00:52 AM: I liked the tune that was before Dare.

Oh, and also confirmed, Dream Theater in the Top 40!

I didn't know The Doobie Brothers released an album this year!
:neverusethis:

The instrumental after The Doobies was awesome though. It totally ripped!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 08:59:16 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 16, 2017, 06:00:52 AM
I liked the tune that was before Dare.

Oh, and also confirmed, Dream Theater in the Top 40!

I didn't know The Doobie Brothers released an album this year!
:neverusethis:

The instrumental after The Doobies was awesome though. It totally ripped!

What did you think of the Syu instrumental TAC? That ripped. Great album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2017, 11:24:39 AM: Is that the Galnyrues (sp?) guitarist? Yes that was awesome too!! :metal

I have to check them out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 11:42:59 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 16, 2017, 11:24:39 AM
Is that the Galnyrues (sp?) guitarist? Yes that was awesome too!! :metal

I have to check them out.

They are completely mental and OTT. Keyboard player is awesome too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:01:41 PM: Podcast downloaded and will start the listening tonight motherfuckers!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 03:10:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:01:41 PM
Podcast downloaded and will start the listening tonight motherfuckers!!

Wolf sounds like he's ready to break shit
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 03:10:51 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:01:41 PM
Podcast downloaded and will start the listening tonight motherfuckers!!

I'm 3 1/2 hours in. Good luck 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:14:46 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:01:41 PM
Podcast downloaded and will start the listening tonight motherfuckers!!

Wolf sounds like he's ready to break shit

yeah buddy!!

Quote from: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:01:41 PM
Podcast downloaded and will start the listening tonight motherfuckers!!

I'm 3 1/2 hours in. Good luck 😀

:tup Will report my findings as they come through.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on February 16, 2017, 03:16:46 PM: just hit the 6 hour mark

really enjoyed the BOC feel of that Humbucker track

Fake Idols was pretty rockin' as well.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 03:18:48 PM: My son was very impressed with my shout out for the Punky Meadows track 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 03:55:17 PM: Those growls were uncalled for 😵🙉
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:58:42 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 03:55:17 PM
Those growls were uncalled for 😵🙉

Growls are always called for. Nice to see Brent throw some growls in there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 04:00:09 PM: It was Ben that threw in the growls. He is a death metal maniac.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 04:27:52 PM: Fuck yeah! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 16, 2017, 07:00:11 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 04:00:09 PM
It was Ben that threw in the growls. He is a death metal maniac.

Ben has started a new daily thing this week. Every night after he gets out of the bath he does some mohawk hairstyle and calls me in to video him doing a line from a rock/metal song :lol

I won't leave the link here for long but some of you guys might get a kick out of this :lol

https://youtu.be/V9wYzeZFKKU
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2017, 07:05:51 PM: :rollin

Let him know that you cannot do that to Winger!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 07:18:44 PM: Well now you know the next bathtub song will be Winger lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 16, 2017, 07:19:14 PM: :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2017, 07:21:38 PM: If you put him in a little red nut pouch I'm calling the police!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 07:28:55 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 16, 2017, 07:46:24 PM: I have explained to him that he cannot see Tim's Winger posters until he is 18.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 07:52:01 PM: That's the day that Ben can sign up for a DTF account
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2017, 07:54:08 PM: Last time I checked, I'm pretty sure Tim did NOT have any Winger posters!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on February 17, 2017, 12:16:52 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 16, 2017, 07:54:08 PM
Last time I checked, I'm pretty sure Tim did NOT have any Winger posters!

Liar! :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2017, 05:04:35 AM: :rollin 30 seconds into this podcast and Tim gets Wingerzingged!!!!

Don't remember requesting Ghostlights Brent, but I'll take it. Top 5 album for me that one.

That Wonderworld was solid, as was the Wolverine, which I still need to check out after Mason sending them to me.

Good stuff so far.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on February 17, 2017, 08:23:04 AM: So what is this podcast I am missing out on? Link to info?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on February 17, 2017, 08:24:10 AM: check the OP, at the bottom of the post
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on February 17, 2017, 08:36:32 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on February 17, 2017, 08:24:10 AM
check the OP, at the bottom of the post

Thanks. Will check it out!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 17, 2017, 09:04:54 AM: I never played Contra on the NES, so I never realized that the stage clear music sounds just like the intro to Alcatrazz' God Blessed Video. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 17, 2017, 09:43:28 AM: Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 17, 2017, 09:04:54 AM
I never played Contra on the NES, so I never realized that the stage clear music sounds just like the intro to Alcatrazz' God Blessed Video. :lol

Never played it either, so I just checked out the soundtrack on Youtube (without knowing what track was what), and when that bit came up, I instantly laughed. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2017, 10:09:22 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 17, 2017, 09:43:28 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 17, 2017, 09:04:54 AM
I never played Contra on the NES, so I never realized that the stage clear music sounds just like the intro to Alcatrazz' God Blessed Video. :lol

Never played it either, so I just checked out the soundtrack on Youtube (without knowing what track was what), and when that bit came up, I instantly laughed. :lol

Hey blob, I enjoyed your video - Jordan shared it on Facebook earlier. Nice work 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2017, 08:12:57 PM: Back to the podcast for a few. I liked the Cauldron track.

The Sabbath tune blew! Not sure how THAT almost makes the Top 40!

And please tell me that was NOT the best ARP track on that album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on February 17, 2017, 09:00:48 PM: I'm back in aswell, only up to Tempt though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 04:58:33 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2017, 08:12:57 PM

The Sabbath tune blew! Not sure how THAT almost makes the Top 40!

And please tell me that was NOT the best ARP track on that album.

Had a little look around and it seems the few opinions around on the Sabbath are similar to mine , so maybe it's just your opinion that blows :lol As I said in one of the podcasts (can't remember which) it's really only once we get into the top 25-ish that we have albums that I can't find too much fault with. So getting near the Top 40 doesn't imply awesomeness but I do think it's a good effort , especially for what is essentially a leftovers album.

The ARP track is one of the more melodic tracks and when I think a ballad is decent I will sometimes use it to keep some variety in pacing in the show. Most of the rockers just sound like standard ARP but I certainly wouldn't have chosen that song for you and I am not surprised that it's in the TAC Blows/Sucks list.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on February 18, 2017, 05:17:39 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 04:58:33 AM
it's in the TAC Blows/Sucks list.
I look forward to hearing it then. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 18, 2017, 05:24:33 AM: I'd like to see the all time list of TACS greatest blow songs
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 05:28:41 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 18, 2017, 05:24:33 AM
I'd like to see the all time list of TACS greatest blow songs

Hmm...........I have been wondering about the theme for the next podcast
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 18, 2017, 05:33:15 AM: Brent and Ben proudly present Tims Ultimate Blow tunes
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 05:38:48 AM: And after that we'll do Blob's Ultimate Blow Tunes

(https://s18.postimg.org/yrmr6307t/zyday.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2017, 05:41:51 AM: :metal :lol Should be Zydar's blow tunes though. I mostly stick to meth.

Quote from: Lowdz on February 17, 2017, 10:09:22 AM
Hey blob, I enjoyed your video - Jordan shared it on Facebook earlier. Nice work 😀

Thanks. :) Shame it doesn't contain any rockin' blow tunes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 05:43:03 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2017, 05:41:51 AM
:metal :lol Should be Zydar's blow tunes though. I mostly stick to meth.

Apologies - I overestimated you. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2017, 05:44:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 05:43:03 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2017, 05:41:51 AM
:metal :lol Should be Zydar's blow tunes though. I mostly stick to meth.

Apologies - I overestimated you. ;D

You sure did. I can't afford the primo shit!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 18, 2017, 03:06:38 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 18, 2017, 05:33:15 AM
Brent and Ben proudly present Tims Ultimate Blow tunes

Do it Aussie boys 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2017, 05:08:08 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 04:58:33 AM
Had a little look around and it seems the few opinions around on the Sabbath are similar to mine , so maybe it's just your opinion that blows :lol

:lol
Oh' I'm sure of it!

Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 05:38:48 AM
And after that we'll do Blob's Ultimate Blow Tunes

(https://s18.postimg.org/yrmr6307t/zyday.gif)

:rollin

You guys have me confused with Danny Waysted!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2017, 05:46:17 PM: Gonna try and close out the podcast tonight.

The A7X tune was decent. The album they did with MP is awesome. But other than that, I haven't really followed them.

The next tune after A7X is AWESOME!! :metal
(can't remember who they are, I need a track list!!!!!!)

..and the next tune in that block is also great!! Some power metal. Don't recall who it is.

You'd think it would be easy. Brent lists 3 bands, but by the halfway point of the first song of the three, I've totally forgotten all three band names! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 06:18:36 PM: HAve PM'd you Tim......easiest way to get you up to date without spoilers in here for those just starting.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2017, 06:38:17 PM: Artillery ...awesome tune. Will check that out! :metal

Attic Demons..what a great name of a band!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 18, 2017, 06:38:42 PM: Will there be a full track list of the show posted at some point?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2017, 06:44:39 PM: I finished!!!!!!!

(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/man-headphones-sleeping-laptop-2037198.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2017, 06:48:59 PM: @ BEN!

Nice job on the podcast!
Here's a gift from Uncle Tim from Boston Massachusetts USA!

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Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2017, 10:12:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 18, 2017, 06:48:59 PM
@ BEN!

Nice job on the podcast!
Here's a gift from Uncle Tim from Boston Massachusetts USA!

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Ben loved that Tim ;D

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 18, 2017, 06:38:42 PM

Will there be a full track list of the show posted at some point?

Yup - I mentioned in the show that I would but I get caught between those flying through and those just starting who don't want spoilers . I might put it in a Wordpad doc and upload it . Then everyone has the link and can download the tracklist whenever they like.

EDIT: here you go - just a simple text doc in the format BAND NAME - ALBUM NAME - TRACK NAME. I didn't bother with the intro stuff - just started at Wonderworld. Let me know if any issues.

https://yadi.sk/i/GCjYFSj23EFLPq
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Post by: Lowdz on February 19, 2017, 03:36:19 AM: Thanks for that Brent, helps my memory a lot. Some decent stuff in that lot. Nothing in the whole list I didn't enjoy. Even the growls song was decent if you took the vocal out and put a proper one in 😀

(Sorry Kade, just fucking with ya mate 😀)
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2017, 03:57:58 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 19, 2017, 03:36:19 AM
Thanks for that Brent, helps my memory a lot. Some decent stuff in that lot. Nothing in the whole list I didn't enjoy. Even the growls song was decent if you took the vocal out and put a proper one in 😀

(Sorry Kade, just fucking with ya mate 😀)

:'(

Seriously, slowing working my way though. That Universal Mind Project speaking of a bit of growls was excellent.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 19, 2017, 10:07:32 AM: I love the Gary Hoey album and that track reminds me of Roy Z's Tribe of Gypsies.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 19, 2017, 01:29:48 PM: (https://m.quickmeme.com/img/52/529c9e0cd806e50f846bc6ea20c3e67144b5fc1e2d692cc66a5cd29a5f027a38.jpg)

Nice one Brent. Appreciate all the effort :hefdaddy
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Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2017, 06:54:00 PM: No worries Paul.

Just thought I had lost my hard drive with all my music on it :-\............a lot of mucking about has revealed that one of the USB ports on my PC had died. Phew. I have backups in place but would rather not go there.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 19, 2017, 07:00:46 PM: That would have been upwards of a billion songs lost.
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Post by: TAC on February 19, 2017, 07:30:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 19, 2017, 06:54:00 PM
I have backups in place but would rather not go there.

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Post by: TAC on February 19, 2017, 08:50:55 PM: So I'm listening to the new Firewind on Spotify tonight. I'm not sure what to make of it. I liked the Premonition but Few Against Many was the worst album I bought that release year.
This is music I should like, but there's just nothing special about it. Some great playing, to be sure.
What am I missing?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2017, 09:43:10 PM: I would agree that there's nothing super special in there but how many albums these days are special and not somewhat derivative? I thought it was by far the best thing I have heard from Gus G/Firewind (always thought they were over rated tbh) and so I suppose relatively speaking I think it's notable for that reason. Another good thing from an album rating point of view is that IMO there were no total duds.

I also meant to note that I almost choked on my dinner last night when an ad came on TV for a Hyundai car and they were using Holy Diver as the music :omg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQAlo4nnscg
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 19, 2017, 09:46:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 19, 2017, 09:43:10 PM
I would agree that there's nothing super special in there but how many albums these days are special and not somewhat derivative? I thought it was by far the best thing I have heard from Gus G/Firewind (always thought they were over rated tbh) and so I suppose relatively speaking I think it's notable for that reason. Another good thing from an album rating point of view is that IMO there were no total duds.

I also meant to note that I almost choked on my dinner last night when an ad came on TV for a Hyundai car and they were using Holy Diver as the music :omg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQAlo4nnscg

Yeah, I saw that about a week ago and thought it was surprisingly awesome. :metal :metal
Definitely not a song choice I expected to hear on TV, but I ain't complaining!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 20, 2017, 12:29:20 AM: I'm surprised with that commercial too. But still :metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2017, 04:14:54 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 19, 2017, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 19, 2017, 09:43:10 PM
I would agree that there's nothing super special in there but how many albums these days are special and not somewhat derivative? I thought it was by far the best thing I have heard from Gus G/Firewind (always thought they were over rated tbh) and so I suppose relatively speaking I think it's notable for that reason. Another good thing from an album rating point of view is that IMO there were no total duds.

I also meant to note that I almost choked on my dinner last night when an ad came on TV for a Hyundai car and they were using Holy Diver as the music :omg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQAlo4nnscg

Yeah, I saw that about a week ago and thought it was surprisingly awesome. :metal :metal
Definitely not a song choice I expected to hear on TV, but I ain't complaining!

I saw that on tv for the first time a week or so ago too. Good shit, but don't understand why.
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Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2017, 04:24:28 AM: I was fully expecting the awful Issa track to be played in representation for the Ted Poley just to piss me off. :biggrin: Happy with We Are Young, I actually really enjoy that album bar that one track.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 20, 2017, 04:30:53 AM: Damn - knew I forgot something ;D
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Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2017, 04:31:53 AM: Man, that Tango Down was killer.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 20, 2017, 04:34:24 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 14, 2017, 06:33:02 PM
Oh boy, the three songs after Testament... :|

Ted Poley and Tango Down were in Tim's 3 killer songs . Good to see some consensus :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 20, 2017, 09:01:39 AM: Ditto. Other than Testament, the Ts were excellent.
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Post by: TAC on February 20, 2017, 10:16:08 AM: Who are you?
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Post by: Lowdz on February 20, 2017, 12:12:05 PM: Edit - should say SPOILER ALERT for those who haven't got through it all yet 😀

I liked all the instrumental tracks you played. I have the Syu and Gary Hoey but the Evan K was cool too. Will have to try that one in full. Same for the Eric Gillette. He does a flawless impression of JP.

Highlights for me in the ones I hadn't heard were

Tango down (heard previous albums but didn't really rate them)
Sunrise
Sunburst
Logar's diary
Mark wood (see comment for Tango Down)
Hand of dimes
Gracepoint
Fractal cipher
Eric gillette
Virtual symmetry
Kayser
Claudio Cordero
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Post by: Podaar on February 20, 2017, 02:48:52 PM: I'm listening, finally, to the podcast.

I was sure you must have been mistaken about the Tygers of Pan Tang song actually being them. The vocalist was way too good! :lol I looked it up though and we were both correct. It was the ToPT alright but not the original singer. :)
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Post by: TAC on February 20, 2017, 03:38:43 PM: LOVED Wild Cat when I was a kid! :metal
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Post by: Podaar on February 20, 2017, 03:59:24 PM: Wild Cat was an interesting album. The music was so cool but the singer sounded board and... well bad. Like he could quite hear what he was singing. You know, like when your brother was wearing head phones and trying to sing along with Venus and Mars. *shudder*
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Post by: TAC on February 20, 2017, 04:53:39 PM: But I thought it was a ton better than the albums that followed. Jess Cox really fit the music. The Jon Deverall albums were so clean, they lacked any life, John Sykes notwithstanding.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 20, 2017, 06:07:17 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 20, 2017, 09:01:39 AM
Ditto. Other than Testament, the Ts were excellent.

What a cameo appearance!!!
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Post by: TAC on February 20, 2017, 06:15:05 PM: Yup. Been so long, he forgot how to write a coherent post.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 20, 2017, 06:16:34 PM: Things are a bit hectic in North Korea at the moment so give the guy a break - there's only so much a deceased dictator can handle at once ;D

I keep Chad in the loop re the podcast directly - good to see him back around here too. :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 20, 2017, 08:46:44 PM: Things have been a bit hectic in my life the last number of months... years actually. Wish I had it in me to be more active around here with you guys, but I don't. Still trying to :metal as often as I can though.

Got my annual Shmegland hookup in a few weeks. I'd invite you Tim, but since you've forgotten who I am ... :P
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Post by: Lowdz on February 21, 2017, 04:09:46 AM: Good to see you matey.
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Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2017, 04:26:57 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 20, 2017, 08:46:44 PM
Things have been a bit hectic in my life the last number of months... years actually. Wish I had it in me to be more active around here with you guys, but I don't. Still trying to :metal as often as I can though.

Got my annual Shmegland hookup in a few weeks. I'd invite you Tim, but since you've forgotten who I am ... :P

It's really good to see you here mate. Hope all is well.
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Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2017, 04:47:00 AM: Wow, that Striker was fucking excellent!
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2017, 04:42:07 AM: Damn, the combo of both Perc3ption and Pareidolia were excellent, two to definitely check out.
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2017, 08:12:28 AM: All credit goes to Cram for this awesome picture:

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Kipburgers for everyone!!!! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 10:10:22 AM: The possibilities are endless

Kip fries, Kip shakes, Kip nuggets
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 22, 2017, 10:11:03 AM: What about the kip wings?
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Post by: Big Hath on February 22, 2017, 10:34:49 AM: Kip Franks & Beans
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2017, 10:56:32 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
The possibilities are endless

Kip fries, Kip shakes, Kip nuggets

Definitely NOT Kip nuggets! :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2017, 11:16:19 AM: Kip-balls. How many can you put in your mouth at once?
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 11:39:26 AM: As Jerry would tell George, I think you may have something here
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Post by: Lowdz on February 22, 2017, 12:04:09 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 22, 2017, 04:42:07 AM
Damn, the combo of both Perc3ption and Pareidolia were excellent, two to definitely check out.

Same here. Both n my list to check out further. If they keep up that standard some cash will be spent. However, if they did they'd probably make the top 40.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2017, 12:10:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 22, 2017, 10:56:32 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
The possibilities are endless

Kip fries, Kip shakes, Kip nuggets

Definitely NOT Kip nuggets! :lol

What if they came in a special red "nugget pouch"?
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2017, 12:15:01 PM: (https://i.imgur.com/89HANHg.gif)
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2017, 01:56:24 PM: Some predictions for B&B's Top 40?

Guaranteed:
Almanac
Fates Warning
Herman Frank

Better be there:
Cloudscape
Poverty's No Crime
Enbound
Monument
Pain
Rage
Burning Point
Mystic Prophecy
Iron Mask

Definitely/Maybe/For Sure/Possibly
Thunderstone
Withem
Eternity's End
Hemina
Utopia
Now Or Never
Myrath
Alter Bridge
Nordic Union

Might be, but shouldn't be:
Serenity
Section A
Hell in the Club
Evil Masquerade
Headspace
Redemption

I'll lose all hope if it's there:
Dream Theater
Eden's Curse
Meat Loaf
Circus Maximus
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Post by: Lowdz on February 22, 2017, 02:00:08 PM: The Astonishing better be there! :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 02:03:23 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 22, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
The Astonishing better be there! :biggrin:

Maybe top 40,000
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2017, 02:06:21 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 22, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
The Astonishing better be there! :biggrin:

(https://replygif.net/i/533.gif)

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 02:03:23 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 22, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
The Astonishing better be there! :biggrin:

Maybe top 40,000

If it were up to me, it still might not make that list.

(https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/George-Costanza-Winking.gif)
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2017, 02:13:16 PM: Almanac did nothing for me.
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Post by: Big Hath on February 22, 2017, 02:49:34 PM: I think we might see Death Angel
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Post by: Samsara on February 22, 2017, 02:50:48 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on February 22, 2017, 02:49:34 PM
I think we might see Death Angel

:tup :metal

I got into Death Angel about 10 years ago. Blown away. GREAT band. I've seen them a bunch now, and bought all the records. So much energy, and so underrated.
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2017, 02:52:10 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on February 22, 2017, 02:49:34 PM
I think we might see Death Angel

I'd be surprised.

I played it and enjoyed it musically, but I was so sick of the singer halfway through that I had to stop listening.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 22, 2017, 03:32:38 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 22, 2017, 02:06:21 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 22, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
The Astonishing better be there! :biggrin:

(https://replygif.net/i/533.gif)

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 02:03:23 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 22, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
The Astonishing better be there! :biggrin:

Maybe top 40,000

If it were up to me, it still might not make that list.

(https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/George-Costanza-Winking.gif)

I'm changing my mind. I haven't missed you at all :lol
I love it. So fuck off :biggrin:
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Post by: Big Hath on February 22, 2017, 04:08:17 PM: if he rated The Astonishing like he normally rates albums, there's just no way it would make it
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Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2017, 04:08:46 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 22, 2017, 01:56:24 PM
Some predictions for B&B's Top 40?

Guaranteed:
Almanac
Fates Warning
Herman Frank

Better be there:
Cloudscape
Poverty's No Crime
Enbound
Monument
Pain
Rage
Burning Point
Mystic Prophecy
Iron Mask

Definitely/Maybe/For Sure/Possibly
Thunderstone
Withem
Eternity's End
Hemina
Utopia
Now Or Never
Myrath
Alter Bridge
Nordic Union

Might be, but shouldn't be:
Serenity
Section A
Hell in the Club
Evil Masquerade
Headspace
Redemption

I'll lose all hope if it's there:
Dream Theater
Eden's Curse
Meat Loaf
Circus Maximus

Chad is going to be disappointed on many counts :lol I think I mentioned that a large slab of the second show will be obscure and I wasn't joking. From that list (one of which "shouldn't be") you got eight.
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2017, 04:14:05 PM: The Astonishing would easily be my least fav and biggest disappointment of 2016.

Also, fuck yeah on the Omnium Gatherum. That song in particular is just brilliant.

Looking at Chad's list for me personally the Rage and the Cloudscape did absolutely nothing for me.

Brent wouldn't put in Nordic Union either. Don't even think he's an Alter Bridge fan also.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2017, 04:16:12 PM: Pretty much every Alter Bridge album has 2 or 3 songs I really like. Myles grates on me after a bit too.
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2017, 04:20:03 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 22, 2017, 04:16:12 PM
Pretty much every Alter Bridge album has 2 or 3 songs I really like. Myles grates on me after a bit too.

I have every Alter Bridge album except the last one. Guitar wise and vocal wise, they are really just a half step on the lower end from being out of my range.

Quote from: wolfking on February 22, 2017, 04:14:05 PM
Looking at Chad's list for me personally the Rage and the Cloudscape did absolutely nothing for me.

I sampled the Rage and it didn't really do it. I bought a Cloudscape CD a few years ago, and I literally could tell you nothing about it.

I thought the Innerwish would've made the Top 40. That is a solid album all the way through.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2017, 04:30:04 PM: Innerwish really should've made it - in the end I decided to stick with a more rigid song based system for most albums (which cost them) vs a gut feel ranking. As I said in the podcast the last few songs (which were good but not of the same quality IMO) cost it.

In the end there's about 1% difference between missing out on the Top 40 (ish) and being at number 30 or so. So in the end it's more about presenting a (bloody big) block of the best stuff from 2016 for you all to sift through rather than being too caught up in the rankings which , in many cases (due to time constraints) only involved one or two listens and may have changed if I had a chance to really live with them. As you can imagine with the volume of music I am covering I really don't get time to get dozens of plays on many outside of my absolute top few favourites.
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2017, 04:36:28 PM: Alter Bridge I can see not appealing to some of you guys, but their album is top 5 of the year for me.

Rage are nothing really without Smolski.
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2017, 04:38:16 PM: Yeah, I was wondering how much deliberation you were able to make.

I know of one album that didn't get enough consideration! ;)

I was a big fan of the Innerwish, Lords Of Black, and the Sinbreed. Gonna have to relisten to the podcast with the tracklist.
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Post by: TAC on February 22, 2017, 04:52:25 PM: Purchased my first 2017 album today. Witherfall's Nocturnes And Requiems.

Oh, and I have the Place Vendome on preorder.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 08:09:54 PM: I've never heard an Alter Bridge album, but the few songs I've heard sounded good. They have a modern sound for sure, but also have a bit of a classic rock sound to them.
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Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 04:31:40 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 08:09:54 PM
I've never heard an Alter Bridge album, but the few songs I've heard sounded good. They have a modern sound for sure, but also have a bit of a classic rock sound to them.

They have that modern almost alternate sound, but Myles has a lot to do with that. He's not really a metal vocalist. But a lot of their stuff is some of the heaviest shit out there. Great unique mix of styles. Some of their songs would appeal to you guys but some would certainly be hit or miss.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2017, 06:18:25 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 22, 2017, 04:52:25 PM

Oh, and I have the Place Vendome on preorder.

Just started listening..............yes it's the 24th here. The word on this has been pretty good despite some pretty average samples - fingers crossed.
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Post by: Samsara on February 23, 2017, 09:04:33 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 04:31:40 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 08:09:54 PM
I've never heard an Alter Bridge album, but the few songs I've heard sounded good. They have a modern sound for sure, but also have a bit of a classic rock sound to them.

They have that modern almost alternate sound, but Myles has a lot to do with that. He's not really a metal vocalist. But a lot of their stuff is some of the heaviest shit out there. Great unique mix of styles. Some of their songs would appeal to you guys but some would certainly be hit or miss.

I'm a huge fan. My wife and I can't go to shows together right now (no sitter), but we're both hardcore AB fans, and she went to our local show a few nights ago. They played a great set. I've seen them four times (1x on Blackbird, 2x on AB III, 1x on Fortress), and they were outstanding. As for the records, wolfking is pretty much dead on.

They are a great mix of classic metal, thrash, hard rock, and alternative rock styles. Borderline progressive as well, the way they alternate tempos/moods in the songs. For those looking to check them out, I always say, start with the Blackbird album. The title track is a real nice moody epic with a killer trade-off guitar solo that DT fans, fans of classic Queensryche, would dig. So many great tracks on that record - Wayward One, Ties That Bind - it really is good. Fortress, would be my second pick for people. I think that record really showcases their diversity pretty well.

I love all of their stuff, honestly. AB III is really dark, thematically. So if dark stuff is your thing, give that a listen. Slip to the Void, Isolation, Words Darker Than Their Wings, Show Me a Sign -- all just killer stuff.

Myles, in addition to having operatic range as a vocalist (think Cornell, but a bit sharper at times, with higher range), is a killer guitar player. He and Mark Tremonti work really well off one another. Think DeGarmo-Wilton if you're familiar with Queensryche. Myles cut his teeth playing jazz guitar and teaching guitar, and while he can shred with the best of them, he's very much someone who likes to put a lot of feel into his solos. Mark is a shred MONSTER. Combined, it is really a beautiful thing to listen to. Perfect contrast without seeming out of place.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2017, 12:27:33 PM: I've not listened to much AB but have liked some. I even used a track in Chads first roulette and it did well.
I'm not a fan of the alternative sound and the vocals are ok in small doses.

I'm not expecting TA to be in the top 40 😀
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Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2017, 12:33:20 PM: Two of my top 10 of last year made the last playlist (Avantasia and Punky Meadows). I'm expecting the rest, TA and probably the Andy Timmons aside, to make it.

Myrath - Legacy

Avenged Sevenfold - The Stage

Graham Bonnet Band - The Book

Kansas - Prelude Implicit

Andy Timmons - theme from a perfect world

Megadeth- Dystopia

Fates Warning - Theories of Flight
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 12:35:49 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on February 23, 2017, 09:04:33 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 04:31:40 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 22, 2017, 08:09:54 PM
I've never heard an Alter Bridge album, but the few songs I've heard sounded good. They have a modern sound for sure, but also have a bit of a classic rock sound to them.

They have that modern almost alternate sound, but Myles has a lot to do with that. He's not really a metal vocalist. But a lot of their stuff is some of the heaviest shit out there. Great unique mix of styles. Some of their songs would appeal to you guys but some would certainly be hit or miss.

I'm a huge fan. My wife and I can't go to shows together right now (no sitter), but we're both hardcore AB fans, and she went to our local show a few nights ago. They played a great set. I've seen them four times (1x on Blackbird, 2x on AB III, 1x on Fortress), and they were outstanding. As for the records, wolfking is pretty much dead on.

They are a great mix of classic metal, thrash, hard rock, and alternative rock styles. Borderline progressive as well, the way they alternate tempos/moods in the songs. For those looking to check them out, I always say, start with the Blackbird album. The title track is a real nice moody epic with a killer trade-off guitar solo that DT fans, fans of classic Queensryche, would dig. So many great tracks on that record - Wayward One, Ties That Bind - it really is good. Fortress, would be my second pick for people. I think that record really showcases their diversity pretty well.

I love all of their stuff, honestly. AB III is really dark, thematically. So if dark stuff is your thing, give that a listen. Slip to the Void, Isolation, Words Darker Than Their Wings, Show Me a Sign -- all just killer stuff.

Myles, in addition to having operatic range as a vocalist (think Cornell, but a bit sharper at times, with higher range), is a killer guitar player. He and Mark Tremonti work really well off one another. Think DeGarmo-Wilton if you're familiar with Queensryche. Myles cut his teeth playing jazz guitar and teaching guitar, and while he can shred with the best of them, he's very much someone who likes to put a lot of feel into his solos. Mark is a shred MONSTER. Combined, it is really a beautiful thing to listen to. Perfect contrast without seeming out of place.

:metal Nicely said there mate.

I'm seeing them down here in April. Going to the meet and greet also. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on February 23, 2017, 12:48:18 PM: :metal

Have you ever been to their M&Gs before? My wife and I did it before the show in San Francisco at the Warfield on the Fortress tour. We had an amazing time. We don't normally spent money to do that sort of thing, but we made an exception, and it was so worth it.

Soundcheck was fun, they were really cool interacting here and there from the stage, and would play a few things here and there just to get people excited. When we met them, it was sort of a usual "stand in line and wait" thing, but we got called up one by one, and they spent a good amount of time with each person. And the goodie bag they gave was great too. All of them had good senses of humor too. Brian loves Iron Maiden, saw me with my shirt, and struck up a side convo. And Flip -- Flip loves his Living Colour. Was jealous as hell I had seen them recently.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 03:17:28 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on February 23, 2017, 12:48:18 PM
:metal

Have you ever been to their M&Gs before? My wife and I did it before the show in San Francisco at the Warfield on the Fortress tour. We had an amazing time. We don't normally spent money to do that sort of thing, but we made an exception, and it was so worth it.

Soundcheck was fun, they were really cool interacting here and there from the stage, and would play a few things here and there just to get people excited. When we met them, it was sort of a usual "stand in line and wait" thing, but we got called up one by one, and they spent a good amount of time with each person. And the goodie bag they gave was great too. All of them had good senses of humor too. Brian loves Iron Maiden, saw me with my shirt, and struck up a side convo. And Flip -- Flip loves his Living Colour. Was jealous as hell I had seen them recently.

Nah man, it will actually be my first meet and greet for any band so don't know what to expect but that's a good insight. Sounds pretty much like what they are doing this time too. Actually a bit nervous as I would have no idea what to say to them. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 04:13:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 23, 2017, 06:18:25 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 22, 2017, 04:52:25 PM

Oh, and I have the Place Vendome on preorder.

Just started listening..............yes it's the 24th here. The word on this has been pretty good despite some pretty average samples - fingers crossed.

How'd it go?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2017, 04:30:38 PM: Just finished a two part listen right now. The positive is that it's better than I expected , the negative is that it's chock full of good but not great songs that are pretty formulaic. Not Erik Martensson formulaic but still fairly predictable. Kiske does great as usual but the interesting songwriting of the first album (and 2nd to a lesser extent) just isn't there IMO and the couple of times they do try something a bit different/progressive it doesn't really work.

Rating somewhere low 80's.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 04:32:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 23, 2017, 04:30:38 PM
Just finished a two part listen right now. The positive is that it's better than I expected , the negative is that it's chock full of good but not great songs that are pretty formulaic. Not Erik Martensson formulaic but still fairly predictable. Kiske does great as usual but the interesting songwriting of the first album (and 2nd to a lesser extent) just isn't there IMO and the couple of times they do try something a bit different/progressive it doesn't really work.

Rating somewhere low 80's.

That's good enough for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2017, 04:38:09 PM: New band with the singer from Storm Und Drang. Typical 80s style Scandi rock but sounds ok. One Desire.

https://youtu.be/DMwLOHbVgTE

Not going to bother with the Place Vendome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2017, 04:50:13 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 23, 2017, 12:33:20 PM
Two of my top 10 of last year made the last playlist (Avantasia and Punky Meadows). I'm expecting the rest, TA and probably the Andy Timmons aside, to make it.

Myrath - Legacy

Avenged Sevenfold - The Stage

Graham Bonnet Band - The Book

Kansas - Prelude Implicit

Andy Timmons - theme from a perfect world

Megadeth- Dystopia

Fates Warning - Theories of Flight

Just had my umpteenth listen to the next show - I expect you'll enjoy it ;) Aside from some bits and pieces + some input from Ben it's basically in the can.

A7X was in the current show (and another shout out for you :lol )
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2017, 05:00:19 PM: Must have missed that with the scrolling issue on the iPad. For the next one I'm going to burn it onto a USB for the car. Still won't be able to remember which bands I liked 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 05:09:45 PM: I'm only half way through this bad boy. Gotta make sure I get through it before the next one or else I'll never catch up haha. Looking forward to the top 40 though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 05:10:37 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 23, 2017, 05:00:19 PM
Must have missed that with the scrolling issue on the iPad.

You were scrolling through the podcast instead of listening from start to finish? :-X
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2017, 05:16:51 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 05:09:45 PM
I'm only half way through this bad boy. Gotta make sure I get through it before the next one or else I'll never catch up haha. Looking forward to the top 40 though.

Take your time ............I'm not going to finalise/upload the next one until I feel the prior one has run its race . That's not stopping me from listening to it though :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 05:34:44 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 23, 2017, 05:16:51 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 23, 2017, 05:09:45 PM
I'm only half way through this bad boy. Gotta make sure I get through it before the next one or else I'll never catch up haha. Looking forward to the top 40 though.

Take your time ............I'm not going to finalise/upload the next one until I feel the prior one has run its race . That's not stopping me from listening to it though :D

Sweet man. I have it on my pc at home so I'm getting through an hour a night, then will definitely need to revisit some of the tracks too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2017, 05:11:49 AM: I thought that LeBrock was pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on February 24, 2017, 05:25:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2017, 05:11:49 AM
I thought that LeBrock was pretty damn good.
:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2017, 07:23:30 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on February 24, 2017, 05:25:16 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2017, 05:11:49 AM
I thought that LeBrock was pretty damn good.
:metal

Wrong thread! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2017, 10:39:17 AM: So one listen to the new Place Vendome.

At the halfway point, I'm thinking that the second half can suck and it'll still be their best since the first one.

And on cue, the second half sucks! :lol
Actually, I'm sure it'll get better with subsequent listens. Kiske sounds amazing. I don't need a great album of music to enjoy Kiske.

Other than Strong, the first half is pretty um..strong.
Riding The Ghost :metal Kai Hansen :metal

And Kiske on Breathing :hefdaddy Holy hell!

All in all, I'm happy with it. Gotta relisten to the last two PV albums at some point.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 24, 2017, 10:47:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2017, 05:11:49 AM
I thought that LeBrock was pretty damn good.

Didn't do much for me. It was just kind of there. I wasn't too into that style back in the day.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on February 24, 2017, 11:07:00 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 24, 2017, 10:39:17 AM
So one listen to the new Place Vendome.

At the halfway point, I'm thinking that the second half can suck and it'll still be their best since the first one.

And on cue, the second half sucks! :lol
Actually, I'm sure it'll get better with subsequent listens. Kiske sounds amazing. I don't need a great album of music to enjoy Kiske.

Other than Strong, the first half is pretty um..strong.
Riding The Ghost :metal Kai Hansen :metal

And Kiske on Breathing :hefdaddy Holy hell!

All in all, I'm happy with it. Gotta relisten to the last two PV albums at some point.

I've never checked out PV. It sounds like I probably should...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2017, 12:04:00 PM: Start with the first one. The first half is stellar!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 24, 2017, 01:11:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 24, 2017, 12:04:00 PM
Start with the first one. The first half is stellar!

That's about all you'll need, though I haven't heard the new one. The tracks they released made me really not want to.

I've ever really liked Kiske's voice that much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2017, 03:35:38 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 24, 2017, 01:11:53 PM

I've ever really liked Kiske's voice that much.

I've ever liked it too! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 24, 2017, 04:53:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 24, 2017, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 24, 2017, 01:11:53 PM

I've ever really liked Kiske's voice that much.

I've ever liked it too! ;D

Apple obviously love it too and have rigged their keyboard to have no disagreement . Trump will be doing that next...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2017, 05:45:34 PM: Good to hear it's pretty good, since the oreo mouth filled samples had us all worried.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2017, 06:36:46 PM: Kade, Riding The Ghost (w/ Kai Hansen)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThV-COJga60

And you do know there's a Magnus Karlsson track, right?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 25, 2017, 05:35:15 AM: PV didn't do much for me. It was enjoyable, but I wasn't wow'd. Though to be fair, that seems to be the trend with a lot of new music for me lately. Same can be said for the other releases from yesterday - Unruly Child, Bloodbound, and Lionville. All were a nice listen, but that's about all I can say.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 25, 2017, 07:01:44 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 25, 2017, 05:35:15 AM
PV didn't do much for me. It was enjoyable, but I wasn't wow'd.

Totally fair. Only a handful of really good songs, but maybe only a couple that outright suck. I can live with it. Don't have a choice really.
I can handle some mediocre music, which is what this is, to listen to Kiske. If Kiske was not involved, TAC would not be involved. ;D
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Post by: TAC on February 25, 2017, 07:35:09 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 25, 2017, 05:35:15 AM
Same can be said for the other releases from yesterday - Unruly Child, Bloodbound, and Lionville.
Just sampled.
My God, what absolute suckage!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 25, 2017, 08:32:12 AM: Yeah... They were on the softer end of Melodic Rock, which I enjoy from time to time. These 2 were rather mediocre at best.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 25, 2017, 08:43:37 AM: You'd think a band called Unruly Child would be a little more....um..unruly!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 25, 2017, 12:37:00 PM: Played the Unruly Child earlier. Nice, inoffensive stuff but won't be playing it again. The Tokyo Motor Fist is decent at first listen . Sounds like everything Ted Poles has done outside of Danger Danger.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on February 25, 2017, 12:52:54 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 25, 2017, 12:37:00 PM
Ted Poles

is that his porn name?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 25, 2017, 05:10:20 PM: It would seem so. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 25, 2017, 07:18:25 PM: I've been playing the new Armored Saint live album. It's short and to the point, but excellent.

Out of all the 80's metal singers, John Bush's vocals may have stood the test of time the best. He really hasn't lost a step and he's truly as good as ever.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on February 25, 2017, 09:35:31 PM: I'm watching on ASXTV Real to Real- Inside Metal: Pioneers of LA Hard Rock and Metal.
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Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2017, 03:42:32 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 24, 2017, 06:36:46 PM
Kade, Riding The Ghost (w/ Kai Hansen)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThV-COJga60

And you do know there's a Magnus Karlsson track, right?

Not bad, nothing amazing though. Yeah, saw there is a Magnus track too, should be sweet.

Quote from: TAC on February 25, 2017, 07:35:09 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on February 25, 2017, 05:35:15 AM
Same can be said for the other releases from yesterday - Unruly Child, Bloodbound, and Lionville.
Just sampled.
My God, what absolute suckage!

What did I tell you Tim.........fine then, don't listen to me.

(https://i.imgur.com/gvHlJfN.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2017, 06:53:50 AM: :rollin

Classic Kade! :lol

After Chad's post, I figured I'd check 'em out. Such a bad idea.

I hate being the only kid in the room that doesn't know what's everyone's talking about. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2017, 08:59:08 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 25, 2017, 07:18:25 PM
I've been playing the new Armored Saint live album. It's short and to the point, but excellent.

Out of all the 80's metal singers, John Bush's vocals may have stood the test of time the best. He really hasn't lost a step and he's truly as good as ever.

That's because John Bush is not human.
We finally get a great live version of Aftermath. I was so bummed it wasn't included on SWQ. Such a great tune. My second favorite AS tune after Book Of Blood.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 27, 2017, 02:56:55 PM: New House of Lords is a snooze fest. But I am in a bad mood so not really in the ballad mood 😡

https://youtu.be/8J6yTZDoSX0
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 27, 2017, 03:11:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 27, 2017, 02:56:55 PM
New House of Lords is a snooze fest. But I am in a bad mood so not really in the ballad mood 😡

https://youtu.be/8J6yTZDoSX0

I think I'm going to go for a nap
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Post by: TAC on February 27, 2017, 03:16:09 PM: House Of Lords? A snooze fest?

You don't say!
I can't believe it!
I would never have guessed!
So shocking!
No way!
You're kidding!
You cannot be serious!
I'm completely caught off guard!
What a surprise!

;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on February 27, 2017, 03:42:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 25, 2017, 07:18:25 PM
I've been playing the new Armored Saint live album. It's short and to the point, but excellent.

Out of all the 80's metal singers, John Bush's vocals may have stood the test of time the best. He really hasn't lost a step and he's truly as good as ever.

Absolutely agree. I saw Armored Saint in November, and then again a couple years ago opening for Saxon. He has really taken care of his voice. In some ways, he's actually at his peak now, as opposed to 20 years ago.

Quote from: TAC on February 26, 2017, 08:59:08 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 25, 2017, 07:18:25 PM
I've been playing the new Armored Saint live album. It's short and to the point, but excellent.

Out of all the 80's metal singers, John Bush's vocals may have stood the test of time the best. He really hasn't lost a step and he's truly as good as ever.

That's because John Bush is not human.
We finally get a great live version of Aftermath. I was so bummed it wasn't included on SWQ. Such a great tune. My second favorite AS tune after Book Of Blood.

Great song. And no, Bush is not human.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 27, 2017, 05:25:53 PM: From what I can tell this band are crap but I enjoyed this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OKw175ouKk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 27, 2017, 05:33:25 PM: Just to leave these here in the presence of people that will appreciate. First, dropping April 21st:

(https://scontent.fcxh1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/q81/p480x480/16864179_1305753526147362_8229464423977082715_n.jpg?oh=8e820878f4320fdca9f38c2c42f3b7aa&oe=592A2A38)

And these are dropping April 28th.

(https://scontent.fcxh1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16995987_10155157935298919_5758180291184809798_n.jpg?oh=4923796db22853d583da3365d72cbc78&oe=592E930D)

(https://scontent.fcxh1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16939373_1272802622802431_6957189469825167249_n.jpg?oh=e65075bb8037895c0ecefc8b76dcff97&oe=59705501)

Fuck that day is looking as good as Jan 28, 2017... Pyramaze, Mindmaze, Ayreon, Vandroya (plus a couple more 'prog' - Big Big Train and Lonely Robot).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 27, 2017, 05:38:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 27, 2017, 05:25:53 PM
From what I can tell this band are crap but I enjoyed this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OKw175ouKk&feature=youtu.be

:lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 27, 2017, 05:40:47 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 27, 2017, 05:33:25 PM
Just to leave these here in the presence of people that will appreciate. First, dropping April 21st:

Looking forward to all of those Chad (except Ayreon :angel: ).................especially the Labyrinth.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2017, 05:47:10 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 27, 2017, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 27, 2017, 05:25:53 PM
From what I can tell this band are crap but I enjoyed this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OKw175ouKk&feature=youtu.be

:lol

hefdaddy, you're supposed to sing!!!
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Post by: Lowdz on February 28, 2017, 11:00:22 AM: I enjoyed the first Vandroya.
Can't say I'm too excited for the others. I'm hoping the Ayreon is good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 28, 2017, 11:10:18 AM: Just listened to the Labyrinth ANewDream track and have changed my mind. Loved it.
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Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2017, 03:10:19 PM: I'm really looking forward to the Pyramaze. The last album was brilliant.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 28, 2017, 07:29:21 PM: Not a huge fan of Heir Apparent, but this looks interesting. Love Matt Thompson's drumming in King Diamond.

https://bravewords.com/news/underground-90s-act-autumn-silence-to-have-recordings-reissued-features-kind-diamond-drummer-matt-thompson
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2017, 04:59:27 AM: I've heard the name Heir Apparent but never heard anything by them. Matt Thompson is solid as fuck behind the drumkit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2017, 05:01:41 AM: Brent, I like the inclusion of the Defiants in the podcast. I warmed up a lot to that album and enjoy it quite a bit from time to time. That was one of my top songs of the year.

That Claudio fellow certainly has some nice chops, need to check him out for real after that tune.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2017, 05:25:11 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 01, 2017, 04:59:27 AM
I've heard the name Heir Apparent but never heard anything by them. Matt Thompson is solid as fuck behind the drumkit.

One Small Voice is a pretty cool album. Their other main release (Graceful Inheritance) seems to have a cult classic status but I never rated it very high.

Quote from: wolfking on March 01, 2017, 05:01:41 AM
Brent, I like the inclusion of the Defiants in the podcast. I warmed up a lot to that album and enjoy it quite a bit from time to time. That was one of my top songs of the year.

That Claudio fellow certainly has some nice chops, need to check him out for real after that tune.

:tup
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2017, 04:08:07 PM: Maiden rules!!! :metal

Just sayin'
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Post by: Podaar on March 02, 2017, 06:13:41 AM: Seems that TAC is going to win the Random Caption thread by default if no one shows up to make an entry.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 02, 2017, 01:56:50 PM: New Crazy Lixx track. Pretty standard fare for CL. Hoping for a great production this time like on the awesome New Religion but not holding my breath.

https://youtu.be/Rw_9gOvZJg4
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2017, 05:20:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 02, 2017, 01:56:50 PM
New Crazy Lixx track. Pretty standard fare for CL. Hoping for a great production this time like on the awesome New Religion but not holding my breath.

https://youtu.be/Rw_9gOvZJg4

Not bad at all. Could be placed anywhere on the last album and you'd be none the wiser. Looking forward to this one.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 02, 2017, 08:45:20 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 02, 2017, 05:20:20 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 02, 2017, 01:56:50 PM
New Crazy Lixx track. Pretty standard fare for CL. Hoping for a great production this time like on the awesome New Religion but not holding my breath.

https://youtu.be/Rw_9gOvZJg4

Not bad at all. Could be placed anywhere on the last album and you'd be none the wiser. Looking forward to this one.

Ditto. I loved the last album, so I'm happy they're continuing in that style instead of the raw sound of Riot Avenue which I didn't think worked so well. Solid song, and the production sounds killer too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2017, 01:28:50 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 01, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
Maiden rules!!! :metal

Just sayin'

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2017, 04:58:19 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 02, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 02, 2017, 05:20:20 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 02, 2017, 01:56:50 PM
New Crazy Lixx track. Pretty standard fare for CL. Hoping for a great production this time like on the awesome New Religion but not holding my breath.

https://youtu.be/Rw_9gOvZJg4

Not bad at all. Could be placed anywhere on the last album and you'd be none the wiser. Looking forward to this one.

Ditto. I loved the last album, so I'm happy they're continuing in that style instead of the raw sound of Riot Avenue which I didn't think worked so well. Solid song, and the production sounds killer too.

Can't believe we agree. I also liked the direction of the last one a lot more than the others, even New Religion.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 03, 2017, 05:02:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 03, 2017, 04:58:19 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 02, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 02, 2017, 05:20:20 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 02, 2017, 01:56:50 PM
New Crazy Lixx track. Pretty standard fare for CL. Hoping for a great production this time like on the awesome New Religion but not holding my breath.

https://youtu.be/Rw_9gOvZJg4

Not bad at all. Could be placed anywhere on the last album and you'd be none the wiser. Looking forward to this one.

Ditto. I loved the last album, so I'm happy they're continuing in that style instead of the raw sound of Riot Avenue which I didn't think worked so well. Solid song, and the production sounds killer too.

Can't believe we agree. I also liked the direction of the last one a lot more than the others, even New Religion.

I consider them similar enough in direction, although maybe the self titled was a bit more straight up? (and I don't mean in a bad way)
Either way, I like them fairly similarly overall I think, so I'm not gonna split hairs on it. So far the even albums are the good ones though. :lol

New Inglorious song. I was put off a bit by the intro, but once it kicked in, it was pretty good. It's definitely the direction I wanted them to continue in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=876QYRiF5Ck
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Post by: Samsara on March 03, 2017, 10:13:37 AM: I totally dig Inglorious. Love that first record. I wasn't huge on the first song they released from II, but I like this one for sure. Love the heavy blues vibe. Best singer on the planet right now, Mr. Nathan James.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2017, 10:28:32 AM: Hey yo. Just in case any of you don't head over to GD, here's what's goin on. https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=49767.0;topicseen

Bad news is ya'll are gonna be seeing more of me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2017, 10:51:37 AM: The good news is Chad has been signed to a 10 year contract to be the full time Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread moderator and Seinfeld gif operator.

It's a very sought after gig and he will be rewarded with a used copy of Winger's debut on cassette along with a salary of 5 dollars a year. So its a 10 year, $50 dollar contract.

It's also the Summer of Chad!
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2017, 12:00:12 PM: Spring at least

(https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/PCer_EyeTlMnthCGbpgLgTST134=/fit-in/850x850/http%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Fprince-george%2Fgeorge-eating.gif)

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/a9d6d3261954bbced43efcd8ebfcb3e1/tumblr_nah3ncq5jF1qjzijvo5_400.gif)
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 03, 2017, 12:57:55 PM: That inglorious tune is very cool.
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Post by: TAC on March 03, 2017, 03:10:46 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/metal-church-to-release-classic-live-album-in-april-bonus-track-features-duet-with-queensryche-singer-todd-la-torre

Hell F'n YES!! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2017, 03:16:46 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 03, 2017, 10:28:32 AM
Bad news is ya'll are gonna be seeing more of me.

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/7I01E/well-its-about-damn-time/image.jpg)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 03, 2017, 08:53:12 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on March 03, 2017, 10:13:37 AM
I totally dig Inglorious. Love that first record. I wasn't huge on the first song they released from II, but I like this one for sure. Love the heavy blues vibe. Best singer on the planet right now, Mr. Nathan James.

He's definitely one of the highlights of the band, and he slays it live too from the clips I've seen. I didn't think too much of the first single they released either, so I'm glad this one is much more to my taste. Inglorious and Crazy Lixx are my most anticipated albums for the moment.
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Post by: TAC on March 05, 2017, 05:45:12 PM: So, The Lovely Mrs TAC likes to watch Long Island Medium, and I just went in Rudy Sarzo is on the show. And she channels Randy Rhoads! :omg:
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Post by: TAC on March 05, 2017, 06:20:53 PM: Listening to Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly on youtube right now.

Love the comments:
"I'd say more like drums are being recorded, and the singer is on the roof, while the band plays outside"
:lol

Interesting stuff.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 05, 2017, 06:24:25 PM: Watchtower were always a bit too over the top technical for me , but no denying they were/are some talented dudes. The current lineup just released something new (Concepts Of Math) but I haven't checked it out as yet.

I can have a new podcast ready within 24-48hrs whenever you guys feel like something new. Still waiting on my Hath ratings ;D
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Post by: TAC on March 05, 2017, 06:31:42 PM: Thanks to going to YouTube for Watchtower, I have stumbled across Cyclone Temple! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on March 05, 2017, 06:35:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 05, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
Thanks to going to YouTube for Watchtower, I have stumbled across Cyclone Temple! :metal

From memory some of their stuff sounded a bit like a (less impressive) Bush fronting Anthrax. I have I Hate Therefore I Am which afaik is their best album........looks like I have a demo or two as well.
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Post by: TAC on March 05, 2017, 06:42:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 05, 2017, 06:35:47 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 05, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
Thanks to going to YouTube for Watchtower, I have stumbled across Cyclone Temple! :metal

From memory some of their stuff sounded a bit like a (less impressive) Bush fronting Anthrax. I have I Hate Therefore I Am which afaik is their best album........looks like I have a demo or two as well.

IHTIA is what I was listening. It's pretty damn cool. Closer to Testament than Anthrax. Seems they either changed vocalist for the second album because it has sucky 90's vocals.
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Post by: Big Hath on March 05, 2017, 06:49:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 05, 2017, 06:24:25 PM
I can have a new podcast ready within 24-48hrs whenever you guys feel like something new. Still waiting on my Hath ratings ;D

ha, I can post something tomorrow at work since that is where I do my listening and keep the spreadsheet. It was a highly rated show for sure!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 06, 2017, 04:34:13 AM: Has anyone checked out the Sainted Sinners album? Getting top notch reviews around the place . I'm a fan of Reece in Bangalore Choir and Accept but having read about this being the second coming of Whitesnake I'm a bit baffled. Half way through it and pretty bored with it....the songs just aren't there.

EDIT: Having finished it I'll revise my "pretty bored" to "very bored". Barely a song on it worth replaying.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 06, 2017, 04:45:07 AM: It's on Spotify, so I'll check out a few songs.
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Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2017, 04:52:39 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 05, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
Thanks to going to YouTube for Watchtower, I have stumbled across Cyclone Temple! :metal

I have one of their albums and it's fucking cool as. In Thy Honor I think.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 06, 2017, 04:56:40 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 06, 2017, 04:34:13 AM
Having finished it I'll revise my "pretty bored" to "very bored". Barely a song on it worth replaying.
I only made it three songs in. (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/tired-sleeping-smiley-4644.gif~original)
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Post by: bl5150 on March 06, 2017, 05:01:49 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 06, 2017, 04:52:39 AM
Quote from: TAC on March 05, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
Thanks to going to YouTube for Watchtower, I have stumbled across Cyclone Temple! :metal

I have one of their albums and it's fucking cool as. In Thy Honor I think.

can't find any reference to that one
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2017, 05:12:09 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 06, 2017, 05:01:49 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 06, 2017, 04:52:39 AM
Quote from: TAC on March 05, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
Thanks to going to YouTube for Watchtower, I have stumbled across Cyclone Temple! :metal

I have one of their albums and it's fucking cool as. In Thy Honor I think.

can't find any reference to that one

That's because I'm a fucking stooge that doesn't read shit properly. Thought Tim said Cryonic Temple. Thought it was a weird reference since Watchtower was the discussion. And the album is actually called In Thy Power.
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Post by: Big Hath on March 06, 2017, 09:17:25 AM: here are the 9.5 (Defecto) and 9's I wasn't familiar with

Defecto   When Daylight Dies
Wonderworld   Remember My Words
Striker   Phoenix Lights
Sound Storm   Forsaken
Prong   Worth Pursuing
Pareidolia   Quench the Fire
Metal Church   It Waits
Maverick   Mademoiselle
Mark Wood   Fire 'n Ice
Fake Idols   Sail
Dylem   Pluie de cristal
Delain   Danse Macabre
Claudio Cordero   Cas Na Pivo
Cauldron   Corridors of Dust
Artillery   Sin Of Innocence

And the 8.5's

Infectious Grooves   Therapy
Anthrax   Breathing Lightning
Flotsam and Jetsam   Forbidden Territories
Wolf Hoffmann   Scherzo
Virtual Symmetry   Program Error (We Are the Virus)
Tango Down   Broken Heart
Syu   My Another Whispering
Sunrise   Star Ocean
Sinbreed   Across the Great Divides
Seven   Fight
Scythia   Loremaster pt. I
Rage of Angels   R.O.A.
Punky Meadows   The Price You Pay
Perc3ption   Immortality
Palace   Man Behind the Gun
Oceans of Time   Black Death
Nightmare   Dead Sun
Logar's Diary   Dreaming Wide Awake
Kayser   Debris (Of A Dream)
Humbucker   Traveling Through the Dark
Fractal Cypher   The Ghost of Myself
Fireland   Burning Scarecrow
Evan   Blue Lightning
Eternal Idol   Evil Tears
Divine Weep   Age Of The Immortal
The Defiants   Love and Bullets
Bobby Kimball   On My Feet
Billion Dollar Babies   Everyone's in Love with a Chemical God
Astralion   Ghosts Of Sahara
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2017, 10:18:35 AM: Here are the bands I wasn't familiar with, and have squirrelled away on my "Ben/Brent" playlist on Spotify:

Astralion
Divine Weep
Eternal Idol
Evan
Fractal Cypher
Mark Wood
Mercy Isle
Michael Sweet (surprised I hadn't checked this one out)
Pareidolia
Perc3ption
Scythia
Anthrax
Trees of Eternity
Wolf Hoffmann
Tygers of Pan Tang
Tyketto

Others I already knew, or didn't quite float my boat enough to warrant checking them out. I would've wanted to check out Syu, but alas... not on Spotify.

NOW BRING US THAT TOP 40!!!! :getoffmylawn:
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Post by: TAC on March 06, 2017, 02:37:57 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/metal-church-launch-official-music-video-for-fake-healer-featuring-queensryche-singer-todd-la-torre

God damn, does Mike Howe sound great!
Nice spot for Todd too. I like this!
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Post by: Samsara on March 06, 2017, 03:12:49 PM: I listened to it once. Pretty cool.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 06, 2017, 03:28:22 PM: Nice for a change but not at the level of the original IMHO - one of my favourite songs that one. Awesome lyrics - and I normally take little notice of lyrics.
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Post by: TAC on March 06, 2017, 03:29:12 PM: I always felt Fake Healer was just a tad slow.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 06, 2017, 03:31:30 PM: Sounded good

A remake of Badlands would have been cool to hear
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 06, 2017, 03:33:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 06, 2017, 03:31:30 PM
Sounded good

A remake of Badlands would have been cool to hear

They've already re-recorded that one
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Post by: bl5150 on March 06, 2017, 03:35:17 PM: Here you are Jay - it was one of the first things they did when Howe came back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0h9m6eMC_M
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 06, 2017, 03:40:11 PM: Thanks! I forgot they did that one
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2017, 04:09:47 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 06, 2017, 10:18:35 AM

NOW BRING US THAT TOP 40!!!! :getoffmylawn:

Will give it a final listen today and hopefully ready to roll by the weekend after rendering and (super slow) uploading. Thanks (and to Hath) for your list of discoveries - it seems everyone liked/discovered something different , which backs up the selections even though that creates a few headaches for some :lol And welcome back :-*
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2017, 04:23:41 PM: (https://memecrunch.com/meme/U8WU/my-body-is-ready/image.png?w=600&c=1)
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2017, 04:43:30 PM: I'm going to have to find time to relisten to the 2016 podcast. Those are a lot of high scores there, Hath.
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2017, 04:56:01 PM: Off topic, listening to the new Firewind again, and this is a great release. Easily one of the best albums, if not their best. Will make it high on a top 2017 list I think. Interesting that Dennis Ward wrote the whole thing with Gus. I didn't see that combo coming.
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2017, 05:11:13 PM: I'm going to have to check it out then. I bought their last album, don't even remember the name, and it was easily the worst album I bought that year.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2017, 05:16:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 19, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
So I'm listening to the new Firewind on Spotify tonight. I'm not sure what to make of it. I liked the Premonition but Few Against Many was the worst album I bought that release year.
This is music I should like, but there's just nothing special about it. Some great playing, to be sure.
What am I missing?

I thought you had already checked it out Tim.

I liked it..........definitely their best anyway , which in itself doesn't mean much I suppose as I don't rate a lot of their other stuff.
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2017, 05:21:06 PM: :lol

I just spent 5 minutes looking for the post you quoted! :facepalm:

I'll give it a second listen then. See, I didn't even remember the first one!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2017, 05:34:54 PM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2017, 05:38:21 PM: Been enjoying Lancer's Mastery. Kind of a more thrashy Hammerfall, and damn, the singer sounds just like Cans.

Is it me, or has it been a slow year so far?
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2017, 05:47:46 PM: I'm listening to the Firewind now. I'm having trouble latching onto the singer. The guitarist is amazing though.

I wish Place Vendome and Firewind could trade singers!
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 07, 2017, 05:57:11 PM: It does seem like a slow year so far in regards to new releases. Hopefully it picks up for some late spring/summer releases
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2017, 06:21:26 PM: Quiet?...............never :-\
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2017, 07:27:56 PM: I see Striker has a new album already.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2017, 08:11:11 PM: Yeah........haven't got that one yet but they rarely release anything less than good. Just a matter of how good.
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2017, 08:19:28 PM: I barely got through the first three songs and was highly unimpressed. The track you played on the podcast was 10 times better.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2017, 08:32:06 PM: Hmm okay........they generally produce solid albums with 2-3 very strong songs so hopefully they occur later in the album
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 07, 2017, 10:03:22 PM: I liked what I heard from Striker as well. Cool old school sound
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on March 07, 2017, 10:30:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 07, 2017, 04:43:30 PM
I'm going to have to find time to relisten to the 2016 podcast. Those are a lot of high scores there, Hath.

there were a lot of songs in the podcast :lol

and when you're getting the best songs from albums in genres I like, you'll inevitably get a lot of high scores.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2017, 12:14:34 AM: The new show is rendering into one big mp3 as I type. A little adjustment here and there and we'll be right to upload.

As with the two 1988 ones it's quite possible that you may like more songs in the "best of the rest" than the final one - not only because it's twice the size but because we're rating whole albums and that doesn't necessarily mean that the best songs on the also rans are inferior - in many cases they are better. In the bottom half of the Top 40 (or 43 as it turned out) the only real difference between these albums and those that missed out is a lack of dud songs (ie consistency) . The really strong albums start around the mid-high 20's in the countdown - those albums I consider chock full of good songs with little to no filler.

I'm pretty sure you'll all get something out of it in any case.

Should have a link up within 24-48 hrs depending on my success at uploading through a prehistoric internet connection.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 08, 2017, 12:27:22 AM: Just how prehistoric an internet connection are we talking?
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Post by: Bolsters on March 08, 2017, 12:35:04 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 08, 2017, 12:27:22 AM
Just how prehistoric an internet connection are we talking?
He lives in Australia. So I'm guessing the Aboriginal Australians installed it about 40,000 years ago when they migrated here, give or take.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 08, 2017, 12:42:13 AM: I'm aware he's a fellow Aussie, so that part is assumed. But I figure it must be bad even by our standards, like maybe his internet relies on carrier kangaroo or something. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2017, 12:53:04 AM: ADSL 2+ .................on a good day/time of day 6-8 Mbps down and 0.6-0.8 Mbps up.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 08, 2017, 12:54:10 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 08, 2017, 12:42:13 AM
I'm aware he's a fellow Aussie, so that part is assumed.
I knew you hadn't forgotten, just stated it for effect. :lol

I was always under the impression that the Melbourne area was our best in regards to internet quality, though.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2017, 12:55:40 AM: Totally depends where you are. 5 mins drive away they have NBN or cable at > 10 times the speed . If it's ADSL then speed varies a lot according to how far you are from the nearest phone exchange.

I think I may have enough data on my mobile plan which runs 4GX at ten times my hard connection. Will use that if need be.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 08, 2017, 12:59:39 AM: 6-8Mbps down seems pretty bad even for ADSL2, though. Though I suppose you've probably got a lot of congestion where you are.

I get about 9-10Mbps up on my phone, definitely a better way to go if you've got the data.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 04:11:35 AM: Damn this thread moves fast... with four Aussie's here, not surprise there's a lot to wake up to:

@ Kade re: Firewind. 100% agree. So far, one of the best albums of the year for me.

@ Tim re: slow year. 100% agree. Only have 10 (11 now... I seem to have missed any news on Striker) albums that I've checked out. Mind you, I haven't dug in to my usual sources for new material yet. Re: Lancer... saw you listening to them, and had a go at them. Pretty good as I recall.

@ Brent re: ADSL. Jebuz... I think I had dial-up modems faster than that! You and Bend should get out and push.
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2017, 04:24:30 AM: Good to see some love for the Firewind, good stuff.

And yes, one of the slowest starts to the year I can remember!

Oh and new Dream Evil on May 26th!! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2017, 04:29:37 AM: The ADSL is bearable for basic browsing but even with that it can slow down and become painful. What I didn't realise until I did these podcasts (never uploaded much before) is that on such a slow connection uploading makes browsing impossible. Apparently the little packets that you would normally send back to a website etc......that allow you to browse don't make it through when the channel is flooded with a big mp3 upload , so the only time I can upload is when I'm not browsing which is almost never :lol

Will use that mobile connection . I should use it more - only trouble is that I have been known to forget to turn it off and then cop a whopping bill when my overnight cloud backup goes through on that connection and blows my data allowance :omg:

In this slow year I already have checked out hundreds of albums and have >40 in my spreadsheet rated >75% so if this is slow I'm happy to keep it slow :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 04:33:16 AM: You could always set a reminder alarm on your phone to turn the hotspot off. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2017, 04:38:12 AM: I am useless with phones - mine's flat most of the time. The device I am referring to is a mobile broadband modem that runs on a different (faster) spectrum to my phone - awesome connection but mega expensive data. I could set an alarm somewhere but I don't trust myself to do that every time after the bill I copped :lol They should prompt you to buy extra data but this thing just sends you messages all day - you've been charged a squillion for extra data every 1GB
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2017, 04:40:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 08, 2017, 04:29:37 AM
In this slow year I already have checked out hundreds of albums

Fucking hell.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 08, 2017, 05:37:56 AM: I think I might be up to about 15 albums or so this year? Pretty thin, and nothing that's really blown me away yet either.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 08, 2017, 05:56:33 AM: I got two records of 2017, Pain Of Salvation (great) and Thunder (not sure what to think but growing steadily). And maybe for or five records from previous years.

I just don't have the time to listen to that many records any more :yeahright
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Post by: TAC on March 08, 2017, 06:46:02 AM: This 2017 TAComendation is for Chad. I know he likes his female vocals.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/0EXqz8.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-G464I9Ul0
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 12:17:35 PM: I'm on it. Will report back later. I'm on a day of musical discovery. Batting 2 for 4 so far:

Stamina/System of Power - Prog/Power Metal. Lots of diversity hear. I think ya'll would like.
Age of Reflection / In the Heat of the Night - Melodic Rock... but not Frontiers sounding. Enjoying so far.

Couple others that didn't work.
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Post by: TAC on March 08, 2017, 12:43:42 PM: The track I linked is probably the heaviest and busiest. The album is on Spotify.

Quote from: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 12:17:35 PM
Stamina/System of Power - Prog/Power Metal. Lots of diversity hear.

This is very cool. Reminds me a bit of Darkwater.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2017, 03:38:27 PM: That's spooky Chad - I was listening to Stamina yesterday too. I have all their stuff............they've never released an album that totally nails it but they do have a unique vibe as their songs are often pretty standard melodic rock/metal but then they throw in something jazzy etc.......the musicianship is often on another level vs the otherwise basic song structure.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 04:35:18 PM: Goddamned I'm hyped for the Wolfpakk album next month:

It's time for the fourth installment of WOLFPAKK, the melodic metal allstar project led by Mark Sweeney (ex-Crystal Ball) and Michael Voss (Mad Max, Michael Schenker). Once again the two experienced musicians have gathered a pack of "guest wolves" to refine the 11 new songs which will be featured on "Wolves Reign" (release date: April 28 2017). Among the 26 guests are:
Biff Byford (Saxon), Georges Lynch (Dokken), Rudy Sarzo (Ozzy Osbourne), Ronnie Atkins (Pretty Maids), Rudy Sarzo (Ozzy Osbourne), Tony Harnell (TNT), Chris Holmes (W.A.S.P.), Oliver Hartmann (Avantasia), Timo Somers (Delain), Brad Gillis (Night Ranger), Pasi Rantanen (Thunderstone), Danny Vaughn (Tyketto), Michael Vescera (Yngwie Malmsteen), just to name a few.

Rudy is so awesome, they had to mention him twice! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 08, 2017, 04:36:55 PM: wow, thats a loaded lineup
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Post by: TAC on March 08, 2017, 04:38:15 PM: Hopefully Chris Holmes is only there to set up George Lynch's equipment.
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2017, 04:43:55 PM: I have never heard a single song from this project.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2017, 04:54:21 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 08, 2017, 04:43:55 PM
I have never heard a single song from this project.

Solid :lol

Very few of these sorts of projects live up to the names involved. The main man behind it is Michael Voss. I have the 2015 release (similar sort of lineup) and it's okay. Don't tell Tim but Kiske was on it .
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Post by: TAC on March 08, 2017, 04:59:45 PM: I believe I may have checked it out because of that. I think Chad may have sent me the track on Spotify. Actually, yes, he did.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 05:35:11 PM: All three albums are top notch. Lots of household names - at least, household names in 'our' neighbourhood

One the first (Wolpakk) - JSS, Boals (and his rug), Rob Rock, Ripper, Di'Anno, Tony Martin. The female vocalist is an unknown, but sounds awesome
On the second (Cry Wolf) - Somerville, Sheepers, Gioelli, Tony Mills, Doogie, and Blaze.
On the third (Rise of the Animal) - Kiske, Deris, Poley, JLT, Altzi, Dokken.

Can't believe you guys didn't know about this project. You've missed out. I'd rate Rise of the Animal the best, with the other two just slightly behind and tied for 2nd.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 08, 2017, 08:59:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 08, 2017, 06:46:02 AM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/0EXqz8.jpg)
This ain't bad.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2017, 04:21:31 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on March 08, 2017, 08:59:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 08, 2017, 06:46:02 AM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/0EXqz8.jpg)
This ain't bad.

Nope... it's fucking suh-weet! Thanks for the rec'n Tim
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Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2017, 04:57:47 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 05:35:11 PM
All three albums are top notch. Lots of household names - at least, household names in 'our' neighbourhood

One the first (Wolpakk) - JSS, Boals (and his rug), Rob Rock, Ripper, Di'Anno, Tony Martin. The female vocalist is an unknown, but sounds awesome
On the second (Cry Wolf) - Somerville, Sheepers, Gioelli, Tony Mills, Doogie, and Blaze.
On the third (Rise of the Animal) - Kiske, Deris, Poley, JLT, Altzi, Dokken.

Can't believe you guys didn't know about this project. You've missed out. I'd rate Rise of the Animal the best, with the other two just slightly behind and tied for 2nd.

Some great names there, will have to find time to have a listen. I just don't seem to really give a shit about these star studded projects anymore, unless it's Avantasia. They always just seem so disjointed, and the singers rarely get songs that are outstanding.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2017, 07:27:43 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 09, 2017, 04:57:47 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 05:35:11 PM
All three albums are top notch. Lots of household names - at least, household names in 'our' neighbourhood

One the first (Wolpakk) - JSS, Boals (and his rug), Rob Rock, Ripper, Di'Anno, Tony Martin. The female vocalist is an unknown, but sounds awesome
On the second (Cry Wolf) - Somerville, Sheepers, Gioelli, Tony Mills, Doogie, and Blaze.
On the third (Rise of the Animal) - Kiske, Deris, Poley, JLT, Altzi, Dokken.

Can't believe you guys didn't know about this project. You've missed out. I'd rate Rise of the Animal the best, with the other two just slightly behind and tied for 2nd.

Some great names there, will have to find time to have a listen. I just don't seem to really give a shit about these star studded projects anymore, unless it's Avantasia. They always just seem so disjointed, and the singers rarely get songs that are outstanding.

Freefall would like to have a word with you.
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Post by: bosk1 on March 09, 2017, 10:39:33 AM: Just got word from an inside source that a favorite 70s/80s rhythm guitarist's time is near and he likely will leave this world soon. He and his family are not ready for a public announcement yet, so I will not mention names. But just kinda bummed by the news.
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Post by: TAC on March 09, 2017, 11:07:16 AM: Let me guess. Joey Alves. How did Dave survive them all? They all died so young.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2017, 11:30:43 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 09, 2017, 11:07:16 AM
Let me guess. Joey Alves. How did Dave survive them all? They all died so young.

That would be my assumption too - sad to hear if that's the case :-[
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Post by: Lowdz on March 09, 2017, 03:14:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 09, 2017, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: TAC on March 09, 2017, 11:07:16 AM
Let me guess. Joey Alves. How did Dave survive them all? They all died so young.

That would be my assumption too - sad to hear if that's the case :-[

☹️
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Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2017, 03:51:22 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 09, 2017, 07:27:43 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 09, 2017, 04:57:47 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 05:35:11 PM
All three albums are top notch. Lots of household names - at least, household names in 'our' neighbourhood

One the first (Wolpakk) - JSS, Boals (and his rug), Rob Rock, Ripper, Di'Anno, Tony Martin. The female vocalist is an unknown, but sounds awesome
On the second (Cry Wolf) - Somerville, Sheepers, Gioelli, Tony Mills, Doogie, and Blaze.
On the third (Rise of the Animal) - Kiske, Deris, Poley, JLT, Altzi, Dokken.

Can't believe you guys didn't know about this project. You've missed out. I'd rate Rise of the Animal the best, with the other two just slightly behind and tied for 2nd.

Some great names there, will have to find time to have a listen. I just don't seem to really give a shit about these star studded projects anymore, unless it's Avantasia. They always just seem so disjointed, and the singers rarely get songs that are outstanding.

Freefall would like to have a word with you.

I don't include Magnus as he is just a given. ;D

Quote from: bl5150 on March 09, 2017, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: TAC on March 09, 2017, 11:07:16 AM
Let me guess. Joey Alves. How did Dave survive them all? They all died so young.

That would be my assumption too - sad to hear if that's the case :-[

That's terrible if true.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 09, 2017, 04:26:48 PM: Those Wolfpakk albums are pretty good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 09, 2017, 06:45:26 PM: I checked out some of that Wolfpakk too. They are tooo sweeeeeet (Chad will understand)
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2017, 05:05:14 AM: (https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/wlnwogesture2.jpg?quality=90&w=650)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 10, 2017, 05:08:48 AM: This thread is for life.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2017, 05:11:40 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 10, 2017, 05:08:48 AM
This thread is for life.

(https://i.imgur.com/1lMJa.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 10, 2017, 08:27:43 AM: :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 10, 2017, 08:40:52 AM: :lol

12 tied bandanas down one leg of your ripped jeans mofos!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 10, 2017, 09:45:35 AM: ....or Z Cavabiccis ;D
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Post by: TAC on March 10, 2017, 11:12:04 AM: Or shoestring neckties.
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Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2017, 04:21:20 PM: What the fuck have I walked into?
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Post by: TAC on March 10, 2017, 04:27:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 10, 2017, 04:21:20 PM
What the fuck have I walked into?

Pretty much sums up my feelings every time I click into the wuss thread. ;D
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 10, 2017, 04:33:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 10, 2017, 09:45:35 AM
....or Z Cavabiccis ;D

The what? :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2017, 06:41:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 10, 2017, 04:27:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 10, 2017, 04:21:20 PM
What the fuck have I walked into?

Pretty much sums up my feelings every time I click into the wuss thread. ;D

(https://twentyfirstlegion.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2014/04/Famous-characters-Troll-face-Troll-face-poker-269483.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on March 10, 2017, 07:02:31 PM: :lol

Listening to the new Blaze Bayley album right now. I am liking it. Honestly, I only gave the first Infinite Entanglement album one listen and never went back to it. I like this new one though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 10, 2017, 07:17:55 PM: Blaze's first two solo albums, Silicon Messiah and Tenth Dimension are excellent and if those two were released under the Maiden name I guarentee Blaze would never be shit on like he is for X Factor and Virtual XI. They would be considered classics.

But I remember listening to his third album Blood and Belief and thought it was a downgrade compared to the first two. I really haven't given a solid listen to anything after B&B. I'll try to check out some samples of this new one
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Post by: TAC on March 10, 2017, 07:19:55 PM: Promise And Terror is my favorite Blaze album.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2017, 06:28:09 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 10, 2017, 07:02:31 PM
:lol

Listening to the new Blaze Bayley album right now. I am liking it. Honestly, I only gave the first Infinite Entanglement album one listen and never went back to it. I like this new one though.

Has he learned to sing more than two notes yet?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2017, 06:28:49 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on March 10, 2017, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 10, 2017, 09:45:35 AM
....or Z Cavabiccis ;D

The what? :lol

Damn autocorrect :D

Here's a new show for you guys

https://yadi.sk/d/_CM9gsFK3FXJgg

As per usual I will link it in the OP for future reference and in coming days will link a tracklist also. The show has been done gradually over a period of months in concert with the earlier one. Glad 2016 is now done with , although I have continued to find the odd gem from 2016 in the meantime - had to draw the line somewhere though.

This will please some and not others but for the next show I am going to resurrect a part of my collection that hasn't seen a great deal of activity in recent times. As a kid and really up until 4-5 years ago my focus was around 70/30 in terms of hard rock and AOR vs metal - in recent times that has reversed and probably got to 80% metal. Time to go back to my roots.

So this show will cover everything from the harder edges of AOR through to the more commercial tracks from artists at the lighter end of metal (say some of the more accessible tracks from bands like Accept and WASP). Most of it will sit somewhere in between and it don't get a gig if it wasn't pre-2000 either. So if you like big guitars, big melodies and big hair (and Winger) then this show will be for you. I will delve deep into my collection and will do alternating brackets of classics and rarities.

For now............enjoy my faves of 2016. As mentioned it's not necessarily the best songs of 2016 but featured tracks from some of the best , most consistent albums of 2016 IMHO.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2017, 06:32:20 AM: Will download and put it on a USB for the car this time. Sick of the player for Yandex.Disk. It's a nightmare to go back to find out who the bands I liked were.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 11, 2017, 09:19:38 AM: :downloading:

Love the them of the next podcast. This ought to be right up the jingle.alley.

(awaits Tim's bellyachin') :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2017, 04:54:53 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 11, 2017, 09:19:38 AM
Love the them of the next podcast.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/1988themremasteredqh8-1-.jpg/220px-1988themremasteredqh8-1-.jpg)

jingle.shmegland
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2017, 04:58:48 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 11, 2017, 06:28:49 AM
This will please some and not others but for the next show I am going to resurrect a part of my collection that hasn't seen a great deal of activity in recent times. As a kid and really up until 4-5 years ago my focus was around 70/30 in terms of hard rock and AOR vs metal - in recent times that has reversed and probably got to 80% metal. Time to go back to my roots.

So this show will cover everything from the harder edges of AOR through to the more commercial tracks from artists at the lighter end of metal (say some of the more accessible tracks from bands like Accept and WASP). Most of it will sit somewhere in between and it don't get a gig if it wasn't pre-2000 either. So if you like big guitars, big melodies and big hair (and Winger) then this show will be for you. I will delve deep into my collection and will do alternating brackets of classics and rarities.

Quote from: jingle.boy on March 11, 2017, 09:19:38 AM
(awaits Tim's bellyachin') :lol

I know. Let's have Ben do the show, and maybe he can let Brent pick the last block! ;D
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Post by: Big Hath on March 11, 2017, 06:36:41 PM: :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2017, 08:01:39 PM: Done.....................I have consulted with Ben and the whole of the next show is AC/DC and KISS with a little bit of variety from me at the end,.
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2017, 08:02:29 PM: :metal

Sounds good to me!
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2017, 08:06:31 PM: So, to fit the new podcast on my iPod, another band bites the dust. Goodbye Black Majesty!

That's Australian on Australian crime! ;D
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2017, 08:13:17 PM: Great way to start off the show Ben!! :metal :metal :metal

Might get a few new tunes in tonight.

This Meridian tune is pretty easy on the ears.
Vivaldi Metal Project? Brent, who is singing the first couple verses?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2017, 08:37:15 PM: I believe it is a guy called Csaba Zvekan - never heard of him before. He certainly stretches himself on that song :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2017, 05:02:23 AM: Will aim to donwload this tomorrow. Might put in on a USB for the car also.

Looking forward to the next AOR/hard rock tinged podcast too Brent. :metal

Gotta check that new Blaze album out too. The last one was alright. I think The Man Who Would Not Die might be my fav atually. Fucking heavy and balls out that one.
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Post by: TAC on March 12, 2017, 08:50:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 11, 2017, 08:37:15 PM
I believe it is a guy called Csaba Zvekan - never heard of him before. He certainly stretches himself on that song :lol

I actually liked his voice. But no, that project is not for me.

The Kansas track is terrible. :)
The Psycho Prism is interesting. I'll have to follow up with that. Your description of the vocals was on point. He's almost kind of loopy. But hell yes, there is potential there.
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Post by: TAC on March 12, 2017, 09:39:49 AM: Inglorious tune was just OK. The dude has pipes but I felt he was oversinging. I think I prefer Casaba Melon from the Vivaldi thingy.
Triple FX instrumental was pretty cool.
Once you started the Meshiaak, I immediately checked it on Spotify. Pretty intense stuff. A tad more melodic Slayer. Not completely sold on the vocals, but I'll definitely check it out after the Podcast.
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Post by: TAC on March 12, 2017, 10:01:11 AM: Brent, I have promptly Saved the Handful Of Rain and Eternity's End on Spotify. best two tracks so far, easily.

I liked the Narnia. I'm surprised it's here. That's the same singer from Golden Resurrection, which I like better than Narnia.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 12, 2017, 10:06:11 AM: Haven't listened yet, but I'm pleasantly surprised that Eternity's End made the cut.
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Post by: TAC on March 12, 2017, 10:10:41 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 12, 2017, 10:06:11 AM
Haven't listened yet, but I'm pleasantly surprised that Eternity's End made the cut.

That was a great tune, but for all of the lip service about the singer, he was easily the most uninteresting part of the track, well other than the horrible keyboard solo. But I have it saved and I really enjoyed the track. Can't wait to hear more of it.

And Mercury Falling is now officially Saved, as is Disharmonic Fields.

Brent, after a slow start, you are knocking this out! :metal

Did you really play Kansas or was I just imagining it?
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2017, 02:47:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 12, 2017, 09:39:49 AM
Once you started the Meshiaak, I immediately checked it on Spotify. Pretty intense stuff. A tad more melodic Slayer. Not completely sold on the vocals, but I'll definitely check it out after the Podcast.

I sampled a few tracks from this album and wasn't that impressed. I'll definitely give the track some attention and give them the benefit of the doubt. Dean Wells is a hell of a guitarist though, very underrated.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2017, 04:18:01 PM: Unfortunately we were on the money with Joey Alves.........

It’s with great sadness that I write this today. Y&T's original rhythm guitarist, Joey Alves, passed away at 7:10 this morning at the age of 63. He suffered from ulcerative colitis and other complications that led to his passing. Joey was one of the finest rock rhythm guitarists, and I’ll always remember playing next to him chunking out those monster chords with his classic red double cutaway ‘59 Les Paul Jr. As Ronnie Montrose once said about Joey, “There are rhythm players, then there's Joey. A class of his own.....”.

He was a fun guy who always played with attitude and conviction, and was responsible for writing some memorable riffs for Y&T over the years. His friendship and presence will be missed. This is a great loss for all the Y&T family and faithful. He now joins Phil and Leonard in rock and roll heaven.
-Dave

RIP Joey and condolences to Dave :'(
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Post by: Lowdz on March 12, 2017, 04:23:45 PM: Not started listening yet. Sounds like I have checked some of these out. Eternity's End didn't do anything for me Neither did the Vivaldi thing.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 12, 2017, 04:59:48 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 12, 2017, 04:18:01 PM
Unfortunately we were on the money with Joey Alves.........

It’s with great sadness that I write this today. Y&T's original rhythm guitarist, Joey Alves, passed away at 7:10 this morning at the age of 63. He suffered from ulcerative colitis and other complications that led to his passing. Joey was one of the finest rock rhythm guitarists, and I’ll always remember playing next to him chunking out those monster chords with his classic red double cutaway ‘59 Les Paul Jr. As Ronnie Montrose once said about Joey, “There are rhythm players, then there's Joey. A class of his own.....”.

He was a fun guy who always played with attitude and conviction, and was responsible for writing some memorable riffs for Y&T over the years. His friendship and presence will be missed. This is a great loss for all the Y&T family and faithful. He now joins Phil and Leonard in rock and roll heaven.
-Dave

RIP Joey and condolences to Dave :'(

Yes, so sad. 3/4 of this great band gone. 😭
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 12, 2017, 06:34:43 PM: Y&T is a fantastic band, they deserve a lot more credit and are very underrated.

What a triple threat of Earthshaker, Black Tiger and Mean Streak!
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2017, 08:08:38 PM: RIP. This band has taken a hit lately.
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Post by: TAC on March 12, 2017, 08:15:08 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 12, 2017, 06:34:43 PM
Y&T is a fantastic band, they deserve a lot more credit and are very underrated.

What a triple threat of Earthshaker, Black Tiger and Mean Streak!

So true!!!
:hefdaddy
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Post by: bosk1 on March 13, 2017, 11:10:31 AM: We'll miss ya', Joe.

(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/bosk1/Misc/03jam.jpg)

FYI, hard to tell from the lighting, but the guitar in that pic is the same red LP Jr. Dave referred to in his post. It had become lost through the years (I forget whether it was stolen or pawned), and a former Y&T roadie and long-time friend of Joey, along with a huge network of Y&T fans with some sleuthing and determination, reacquired it and presented it to Joey not long before the above pic was taken. That was his first return to any stage in years. It was an honor playing with him.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2017, 11:49:56 AM: I'm sure that was a great experience. Cool pic.
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Post by: bosk1 on March 13, 2017, 12:02:50 PM: Yeah, it definitely was.

So I just realized, I guess the only original member of Y&T I never got to meet and play with was Leonard. Missed getting Joey's and Leonard's autographs on my Black Tiger CD too. :( Oh well.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2017, 12:31:58 PM: This is a part of getting old that I hadn't really thought about - my heroes dying around me. And I don't like it. Going to have to get used to it.
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Post by: TAC on March 13, 2017, 01:18:13 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on March 13, 2017, 11:10:31 AM
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/bosk1/Misc/03jam.jpg)

Bosk, you look like you're spewing a death metal vocal. :metal
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Post by: bosk1 on March 13, 2017, 01:26:34 PM: Clearly. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2017, 01:40:04 PM: Photo was taken by JJ Abrahams unfortunately ;D
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Post by: Big Hath on March 13, 2017, 01:52:28 PM: I am through the Narnia track so far on the podcast (really enjoyed that one).

Yeah, I've spun that Meshiaak a couple of times - good stuff on that one.

I found the Vivaldi Metal Project to be pretty hit and miss for me. Decent highs, but I found it could go off the rails REALLY quickly. And as someone that has sung in a lot of choirs, the choir could have been MUCH better on this track. Wasn't balance well and they weren't in tune with each other. A bit painful on these ears.
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Post by: TAC on March 14, 2017, 03:02:05 PM: So Destruction just announced a North American tour. Not that I'm interested in Destruction, but what caught my eye was the itinerary:

Tour dates:
May
22 - Metro Opera House - Oakland, CA*
23 - Hawthorne Theatre - Portland, OR*
24 - Studio Seven - Seattle, WA*
26 - Marquis Theatre - Denver, CO*
27 - Aftershock - Kansas City, MO*
28 - Reggie's - Chicago, IL**
29 - Harpo's - Detroit, MI**
30 - Mod Club - Toronto, ON**
31 - L'Astral - Montreal, QC**
June
1 - Gramercy Theatre - New York, NY**
2 - Montage Music Hall - Rochester, NY**
3 - Emerson theater - Indianapolis, IN**
4 - The Masquerade - Atlanta, GA**
5 - Haven Lounge - Orlando, FL **
7 - Grizzly Hall - Austin, TX*
8 - Gas Monkey Bar & Grill - Dallas, TX*
9 - Launchpad - Albuquerque, NM*
10 - Joe's Grotto - Phoenix, AZ*
11 - Regent Theater - Los Angeles, CA*

The crisscross the country with 19 shows in 21 days.! WOW! That is a brutal schedule.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 14, 2017, 03:24:10 PM: From the very small amount I heard from Destruction, I know they aren't my cup of tea
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Post by: bl5150 on March 14, 2017, 04:49:30 PM: Not for me either Jay.

New Pyramaze

https://youtu.be/lv59CYzDduE

Solid but can't say it stands out from anything else around to be honest.
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Post by: TAC on March 14, 2017, 05:16:06 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 14, 2017, 03:24:10 PM
From the very small amount I heard from Destruction, I know they aren't my cup of tea

Quote from: bl5150 on March 14, 2017, 04:49:30 PM
Not for me either Jay.

That wasn't my point, dudes!

I was in awe of the tour schedule.
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Post by: Big Hath on March 14, 2017, 05:29:12 PM: There goes TAC, always posting about Winger and Destruction.
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Post by: TAC on March 14, 2017, 05:31:31 PM: Hey Hath, you were in a ridiculous dream I had the other night. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 14, 2017, 05:35:59 PM: Did it involve a little red garment?
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Post by: TAC on March 14, 2017, 05:42:23 PM: Ok, so here goes..

I had this dream where every time I turned on my computer all of these porn images would pop up. (And NO, assholes, that is NOT the Hath part!)
Um..anyway, my computer had some infection of some sort, so I contacted this guy to come look at it.

So turns out the guy is local, and he drives over on a lawnmower, except there's no one on the seat, but out from where the engine is crawls out this little dude, and he says, "I'm Big Hath", and it I'm like, "you're not even big. You're a midget", and he looked just like Horowitz from Bad Boys!

(https://images.mefeedia.com/food-fight-53813665-orig.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on March 14, 2017, 05:48:07 PM: I can't bring myself to try and analyse that - scared about what the results might be. I respect you Tim ;D
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Post by: TAC on March 14, 2017, 05:50:54 PM: I said it was ridiculous!
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 14, 2017, 06:37:11 PM: Dreams are just the weirdest shit lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 14, 2017, 06:50:46 PM: I was listening to the debut from Blue Murder, that's a underrated gem in the hard rock world IMO. What's the opinion on that album and Brent what do you rate it?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 14, 2017, 06:53:16 PM: I thought it was about half killer , half filler Jay - probably somewhere around low-mid 80's as it does have a few classics (Blackhearted Woman, Billy, Valley of The Kings)

Sykes' output (or lack of) since 1987 has been criminally light on . I think he needs a good songwriter to work with but he seems to be the sort of personality who just cannot work in a band situation. Shame............and also a shame that the supposed collaboration with Portnoy never came to anything. Those two would've produced Blabbermouth worthy material on a daily basis as they clashed in the studio :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 14, 2017, 06:55:26 PM: It has Valley Of The Kings. That's it. I've tried. Bought it upon its release and was so disappointed.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 14, 2017, 07:54:41 PM: The 2nd Blue Murder album...........now that was disappointing :lol I have a feeling that if Blue Murder had been released prior to Whitesnake 1987 (how can you follow that?) it would have a bigger rep than it does.

Supposedly before Sykes decided to go it alone with the vocals he had auditioned Mark Free and Ray Gillen. As much as I love Mark Free I am not sure if that would've worked but Ray Gillen and Sykes would be a match made in heaven I reckon.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 14, 2017, 08:25:07 PM: Ray Gillen would have been perfect for Blue Murder. I never heard anything from the second album but the debut sounds like Tony Martin Sabbbath in some spots
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Post by: Big Hath on March 14, 2017, 09:32:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 14, 2017, 05:42:23 PM
Ok, so here goes..

I had this dream where every time I turned on my computer all of these porn images would pop up. (And NO, assholes, that is NOT the Hath part!)
Um..anyway, my computer had some infection of some sort, so I contacted this guy to come look at it.

So turns out the guy is local, and he drives over on a lawnmower, except there's no one on the seat, but out from where the engine is crawls out this little dude, and he says, "I'm Big Hath", and it I'm like, "you're not even big. You're a midget", and he looked just like Horowitz from Bad Boys!

the hell?!? :rollin
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Post by: gazinwales on March 15, 2017, 03:54:26 AM: Tony Martin also had a go with Blue Murder, he posted the other day on his FB page that there was a version
of Valley Of The Kings with him on vocals.
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Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2017, 05:28:46 AM: That Meridian was really good, classy stuff, never heard of them.

That second track (can't remember what it's called) didn't do anything for me, but the list of artists involved is impressive enough to warrant a check out.

The Kansas was not bad, but not really my thing.
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Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2017, 05:35:30 AM: That Psycho Circus singer is trying too hard to sound like old school Tate, that's his problem. Solid though.
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 05:38:57 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 14, 2017, 07:54:41 PM
The 2nd Blue Murder album...........now that was disappointing :lol I have a feeling that if Blue Murder had been released prior to Whitesnake 1987 (how can you follow that?) it would have a bigger rep than it does.

Supposedly before Sykes decided to go it alone with the vocals he had auditioned Mark Free and Ray Gillen. As much as I love Mark Free I am not sure if that would've worked but Ray Gillen and Sykes would be a match made in heaven I reckon.

I thought Sykes' vocals were not strong at all. It detracted from the album for me. There was nothing in there to really latch onto. And generally, the album is way too generic.

The Whitesnake album had some major bite on the production, but musically it was a lot stronger. Ainsley Dunbar sounds huge on it.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 05:41:05 AM: I can get that - I only ever thought of Sykes' vocals as passable. Not bad enough to turn me off but not good enough to be a feature which means the music needs to be damn good to compensate. On a few songs it it IMO , but the rest would no doubt be more attractive with a dedicated vocalist.
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 05:57:25 AM: The vocals were both dull and uninspired, as I found the music on the album. I bought it immediately on release and it was a huge disappointment. Every now and then, Blue Murder comes up in the conversation here and last year, I had a run though it. Still disappointing.
One instance where the whole was not greater than the sum of its parts.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 15, 2017, 06:28:48 AM: The name John Sykes pops up from time to time and almost everyone acts as he is the messiah come again or something like that. Apart from turning a bluesy hard-rock Whitesnake into a full metal onslaught on 1987 and shredding beyond the speed limit on said record, has he done anything to warrant that status? All I've heard from him did not impress me much, but maybe I'm missing something?
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 06:33:10 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 15, 2017, 06:28:48 AM
The name John Sykes pops up from time to time and almost everyone acts as he is the messiah come again or something like that. Apart from turning a bluesy hard-rock Whitesnake into a full metal onslaught on 1987 and shredding beyond the speed limit on said record, has he done anything to warrant that status? All I've heard from him did not impress me much, but maybe I'm missing something?

Totally legit question.

He was awesome on Thin Lizzy's Thunder And Lightning. And on the live album from that tour. There's a great BBC recording of the Reading '83 show.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 06:46:54 AM: Beyond Thin Lizzy (most of his time spent touring others material) Whitesnake and (if you like it) Blue Murder debut there really isn't much. I was a huge fan after 1987 so continued to get sucked into paying huge $$ for his crappy solo albums post-Blue Murder , each one seemingly worse than the last. Actually the album of ballads was the best by some way.....Loveland I think.

He is a big talent but has only thrived when paired with strong songwriters (Whitesnake/Lizzy)
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 06:52:32 AM: Starting the Top 20 on the countdown.

Monument was a good album, despite lifting exact lines from Maiden.

Brent, WTF is "waffle"? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 06:55:25 AM: WAFFLE..........
noun
1.
BRITISH
lengthy but vague or trivial talk or writing.
"we've edited out some of the waffle from TAC's posts"

synonyms: prattle, jabbering, verbiage, drivel, meaningless talk, nonsense, twaddle, gibberish, stuff and nonsense, bunkum, mumbo jumbo, padding, flannel, verbosity, prolixity; More
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 15, 2017, 07:01:54 AM: Waffling. I've vaguely heard people use that as a verb sparingly.

I've been on Stone Fury -- Burns Like A Star kick lately. I wish that band continued.
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 07:07:28 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on March 15, 2017, 07:01:54 AM
Waffling. I've vaguely heard people use that as a verb sparingly.

You don't even know what an adjective is!

Quote from: kingshmegland on March 15, 2017, 07:01:54 AM
I've been on Stone Fury -- Burns Like A Star kick lately. I wish that band continued.

As much as it pains me to say this, this album did not age well. I loved it as a kid.
Does anyone else remember a band called Bronze? Canadian I think. I bought Bronze and Stone Fury together.

Quote from: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 06:55:25 AM

"we've edited out some of the waffle from TAC's posts"

Does not compute!

What's bankum? I have never heard that work before. :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2017, 07:07:47 AM: Just finished the countdown. No real arguments on the Top 2. They both made my Top 12. Can't wait for the list, as there were a few I didn't get the chance to make note of that I want to revisit. I did end up adding 9 more to the Brent 2016 playlist. Guess I know what I'm listening to for the rest of the month.

Two EP's in the top 10 though? :dunno:

Once the list goes up, I'll offer a few titles that didn't make either list, to see if they somehow slipped by you, or you didn't think they were top 100 worthy.

Still stunned that Now or Never didn't make the cut.
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 07:10:47 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 15, 2017, 07:07:47 AM

Quote from: jingle.boy on March 15, 2017, 07:07:47 AM
Just finished the countdown. No real arguments on the Top 2. They both made my Top 12. Can't wait for the list, as there were a few I didn't get the chance to make note of that I want to revisit. I did end up adding 9 more to the Brent 2016 playlist. Guess I know what I'm listening to for the rest of the month.

Two EP's in the top 10 though? :dunno:

Once the list goes up, I'll offer a few titles that didn't make either list, to see if they somehow slipped by you, or you didn't think they were top 100 worthy.

Still stunned that Now or Never didn't make the cut.

I had a couple of bands I was lobbying to get into one of the shows. I have Now Or Never saved on Spotify. Did you send them to me?

Once the list goes up, I'll offer a few titles that didn't make either list, to see if they somehow slipped by you, or you didn't think they were top 100 worthy.

Still stunned that Now or Never didn't make the cut.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 07:11:43 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2017, 07:07:28 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on March 15, 2017, 07:01:54 AM
Waffling. I've vaguely heard people use that as a verb sparingly.

You don't even know what an adjective is!

Quote from: kingshmegland on March 15, 2017, 07:01:54 AM
I've been on Stone Fury -- Burns Like A Star kick lately. I wish that band continued.

As much as it pains me to say this, this album did not age well. I loved it as a kid.
Does anyone else remember a band called Bronze? Canadian I think. I bought Bronze and Stone Fury together.

Quote from: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 06:55:25 AM

"we've edited out some of the waffle from TAC's posts"

Does not compute!

What's bankum? I have never heard that work before. :lol

It's "bunkum" and "word" Timshmegland.

Quote from: jingle.boy on March 15, 2017, 07:07:47 AM
Just finished the countdown. No real arguments on the Top 2. They both made my Top 12. Can't wait for the list, as there were a few I didn't get the chance to make note of that I want to revisit. I did end up adding 9 more to the Brent 2016 playlist. Guess I know what I'm listening to for the rest of the month.

Two EP's in the top 10 though? :dunno:

Once the list goes up, I'll offer a few titles that didn't make either list, to see if they somehow slipped by you, or you didn't think they were top 100 worthy.

Still stunned that Now or Never didn't make the cut.

Cool. I did explain the EP thing so it was obviously something I considered but in the end just couldn't be stuffed changing my rating method , especially seeing as no EP made the top couple.

Now or Never made my bottom 40 :lol For whatever reason our opinion on that album is at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2017, 07:10:47 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 15, 2017, 07:07:47 AM

Quote from: jingle.boy on March 15, 2017, 07:07:47 AM
Just finished the countdown. No real arguments on the Top 2. They both made my Top 12. Can't wait for the list, as there were a few I didn't get the chance to make note of that I want to revisit. I did end up adding 9 more to the Brent 2016 playlist. Guess I know what I'm listening to for the rest of the month.

Two EP's in the top 10 though? :dunno:

Once the list goes up, I'll offer a few titles that didn't make either list, to see if they somehow slipped by you, or you didn't think they were top 100 worthy.

Still stunned that Now or Never didn't make the cut.

I had a couple of bands I was lobbying to get into one of the shows. I have Now Or Never saved on Spotify. Did you send them to me?

Once the list goes up, I'll offer a few titles that didn't make either list, to see if they somehow slipped by you, or you didn't think they were top 100 worthy.

Still stunned that Now or Never didn't make the cut.

Bunkum :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 15, 2017, 07:12:20 AM: Adjective? I hardly knew ya! :lol

I don't know Tim, that's the charm of that album that it is dated. It sends me back to my youth.
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 07:16:25 AM: Whatever works, right? :lol

I totally get it. I loved that album.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2017, 07:23:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 07:11:43 AM
Now or Never made my bottom 40 :lol For whatever reason our opinion on that album is at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Tastes!! Life would be so much easier if you all just had mine. :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 07:44:04 AM: 35 years later, and I still don't know what to make of Graham Bonnett.

Fury-Definitely Y&T influenced. Totally nailed that Brent. The singer sounds a little like Brian Adams.

Gonna pass on that Apollo bankum (see what I did there?).

Binary Creed! :metal
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Post by: Podaar on March 15, 2017, 08:18:33 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2017, 07:44:04 AM
35 years later, and I still don't know what to make of Graham Bonnett.

I'll give you a hint.

(https://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3844867.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 08:19:45 AM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 08:25:42 AM: NWOTHM. I like that, Brent.
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 08:44:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 07:11:43 AM
I did explain the EP thing so it was obviously something I considered but in the end just couldn't be stuffed changing my rating method

Sounded like a lot of waffle to me.. ;D

Attacker :metal
Damn!
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Post by: bosk1 on March 15, 2017, 08:45:22 AM: The first Blue Murder album was fantastic. Tim, sometimes I don't know what planet you are from. :lol But the second...yeah, I'll give you that one. The live album, Screaming Blue Murder is also VERY good. And even with Sykes forgetting the lyrics on Still of the Night and accidentally repeating a verse as a result, this version is still almost better than the Whitesnake album version.

As far as Gillen on vocals, that would have been an interesting mix. When I think of Ray, I think of that bluesy style of his that fit the three Badlands albums to a tee. Blue Murder wasn't really that (which is interesting when you think about it, since had just come out of arguably THE poster child band for "blues metal"). But, hey, we got three fantastic Badlands albums and one fantastic Blue Murder album, so I'm not going to complain.
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 08:48:10 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on March 15, 2017, 08:45:22 AM
Tim, sometimes I don't know what planet you are from. :lol

Most people in this thread would probably agree with you, and on many days, so would I! :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 15, 2017, 08:59:00 AM: He comes from the planet of ripped jeans and Ibenez Tube Screamers.
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Post by: bosk1 on March 15, 2017, 09:23:01 AM: Going back to Joey Alves for a second, I just realized (I mean, I knew, but had forgotten) that the pic that I posted was taken from the last gig I played with the Y&T tribute band I was in at the time. Terry Lauderdale was one of the guitarists. Really talented player. The reason I bring Terry up is because, although it has been quite a few years since I spoke to him directly, the information I got about Joey came through him. And his current band is opening for Frank Hannon at a club up here this weekend, so I might go check them out. It seems the stars are aligning for Terry and I to have a reunion of sorts. Here is the old promo video for HFT, with Terry on guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5G0bz6LxDQ
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 09:25:55 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on March 15, 2017, 08:59:00 AM
He comes from the planet of ripped jeans and Ibenez Tube Screamers.

...and roach clip feathers!!

Anyway, I'm done with the countdown. Awesome job Brent! :hefdaddy

Thank you so much for your work on this. This is totally appreciated. So many great tracks. I think I Saved 6-8 albums on Spotify during the Top 43.

So not to give away any spoilers, Brent, the album at #2, I could just not get into. It just never stuck with me. Feels kind of cold. I don't know how to describe it, really.
But a Hell Yes for the #1!! It's an Astonishing choice! ;D
Seriously, I think everyone across the board rated it in their Top 5 this year.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2017, 10:03:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2017, 09:25:55 AM
But a Hell Yes for the #1!! It's an Astonishing choice! ;D
Seriously, I think everyone across the board rated it in their Top 5 this year.

Nope... #12

#putsonflamesuit
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Post by: Podaar on March 15, 2017, 10:19:14 AM: Just started up the podcast. I really dig the guitar work on the first tune (#43 I think)! Forgive me for not being a regular and knowing all the ins and outs, but isn't there usually a list I can follow with the countdown?
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2017, 10:21:00 AM: The best thing about this podcast is that Brent introduces every track. On the others, he'll introduce like 3 at a time, and usually midway through the 2nd, I have no clue what I'm listening to!
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Post by: Podaar on March 15, 2017, 11:14:45 AM: #37

Love the guitar tone! To me this tune sounds like it could have come right off Surfing With The Alien. I get the same thrill listening to it that I had the first time I heard Satch play.

I really enjoyed the music from #37 through #33. :metal I think I'm completely lost on the vocals though, which seems to be pretty common for me on this thread.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 15, 2017, 12:17:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2017, 10:21:00 AM
The best thing about this podcast is that Brent introduces every track. On the others, he'll introduce like 3 at a time, and usually midway through the 2nd, I have no clue what I'm listening to!

That's where I've struggled. My memory is shit, and I work with people with Alzheimer's. There's no hope for them :)
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Post by: Big Hath on March 15, 2017, 01:00:38 PM: through the Fury track now.

I thought the Hammers of Misfortune song was good although it could have been tightened up a bit (pull the cowbell back juuust a bit meybe?). But I really liked the organ/keyboard work.

The instrumental section on the Disharmonic Fields was bonkers.

Strong group of songs with the Wicked Maraya block.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 10:06:59 PM: Anyone who wants the tracklist as a text file.............

https://yadi.sk/i/5Z6Z9g-s3Fvyvi
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2017, 04:56:07 AM: Yippee!!!

Let's see... gotta revisit:

Handful of Rain
Narnia - FFS, Spotify doesn't have the whole album up, only one track. :angry:
Bullettrain
Mercury Falling
Disharmonic Fields
Binary Creed
Symphonity
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on March 16, 2017, 05:08:12 AM: #21 and #2 :metal
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2017, 05:58:55 AM: Still not big on Inglorious, but they have a lot of talent.

That Triple FX did nothing for me at all. Really blatant Ice 9 rip off or something.

The Meshiaak was solid and I'll actually have to check out the album.

The Handful of Rain was fucking excellent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 16, 2017, 01:50:05 PM: Working my way through the list.
I'm surprised Almanac came so high. I sampled that and thought it was shit 😀
That Diamond Head song did nothing for me, and I didn't expect it to tbh. That intro riff put me of. Does it get any more generic than that?
The Damian Black is interesting. Tate circa 1984.

I picked up the Chris Green when you gave me the heads up a while ago. Great stuff.
Some of these albums were high up on my list, some I checked out and didn't rate.

You've certainly gone for the heavier stuff as you say.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on March 16, 2017, 01:52:18 PM: Death Angel :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 16, 2017, 01:53:18 PM: Amazing how many on that list I've never heard of at all. I think I know just 7 of them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 16, 2017, 04:51:41 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on March 16, 2017, 01:52:18 PM
Death Angel :metal

I like it.

And yeah, quite a few I've never heard of but a quick listen isn't exactly setting my world on fire. Didn't like the Wicked Maraya at all. As Brent thought might happen, I think I preferred the last podcast.

Checking out Attacker again and loving that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 16, 2017, 06:00:08 PM: The Death Angel was awesome until I got about 2/3rds through the album and that's when the vocalist finally wore me out. I gave it a listen when it came out and musically I really liked it, but those vocals..
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2017, 06:00:49 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 16, 2017, 04:51:41 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on March 16, 2017, 01:52:18 PM
Death Angel :metal

I like it.

And yeah, quite a few I've never heard of but a quick listen isn't exactly setting my world on fire. Didn't like the Wicked Maraya at all. As Brent thought might happen, I think I preferred the last podcast.

Checking out Attacker again and loving that.

All good Paul - pretty much everything was liked by someone which is what we're after.

I have started working through the obscure 80's and 90's rock titles................gawd :lol I had forgotten how much there was - and have already rediscovered a few gems I had forgotten . Might have to turn this into Brent and Ben's Encyclopedia of the Best and Rarest of 80's and 90's Hard Rock and gradually run through them alphabetically . I would actually like it for myself so I don't need to scour my collection again. Might start off with the feature show as planned and then complete the list in hourly segments in forthcoming shows and provide a complete list at the end. Even I struggle with too much "rock" these days without some metal to break it up ;D

The "encyclopedia" is tongue in cheek (as there's plenty I will miss as I don't like them and the definition of "hard rock" is a bit fluid) but if I am going to do it I might as well do it properly and make it some sort of reference for some of the best/rarest bands (IMO) of that period in hard rock . The key is going to be focusing on songs that have something memorable about them for the show - they can all start to blur into one another quickly with some bands from that period.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 16, 2017, 06:07:20 PM: I'm game for whatever you can offer Brent. Already can't wait for the next one!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 17, 2017, 02:34:35 AM: I'm sure there will be loads of stuff I haven't heard, even if I've heard of them. I could afford to track everything down back then. I did have a mate who supplied tapes which helped. We sort of kept each other supplied.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 17, 2017, 05:30:38 AM: And I can see meeting your tape dealer in a dark back alley and him taking tapes out of his black trenchcoat and hooking you up lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2017, 05:57:25 AM: Both the Narnia and Bulletrain I found really excellent.

The Hammers of Misfortune was something different and I really like the singers voice.

And damn, Disharmonic Fields was really solid. Reminds me of heavy solo Dickinson stuff, really good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2017, 06:12:59 AM: Wow, that Eleventh Hour was excellent. I know the little bloke could sing alright, but he sounds wonderful here. New project;

Allen/Lande/DelVicchio??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2017, 06:25:06 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 16, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
I'm game for whatever you can offer Brent. Already can't wait for the next one!

Ditto.

Now that I've revisited those few bands, all (except Bulletrain) made the list to check the full album out - which makes 31 new bands/albums to spin from 2016. :evilmonkey: :zeltar: I'm a glutton for sonic "punishment".

If anyone hasn't discovered enough new bands/albums, I'll share those that made my Top 43 that I don’t remember showing up on either podcast (that I haven't already mentioned):

#7. Utopia / Mood Changes - complex/technical prog-metal that doesn't sound like Dream Theater. Some very crunchy riffs here.
#14. Heaven Below / Good Morning Apocalypse - A concept album from from the Sunset Strip. Excellent glam metal. Play the first track - give it a shot Brent, each track does stand on it's own very well (imo).
#23. Enbound / Blackened Heart. This didn't show up? Seriously? Ruslan would not be happy with you.
#25. Noveria / Forsaken. If Symphony X had a little brother.
#31. Nemesea / Uprise. Female led metal that lands nicely in a place somewhere between operatic and metal.
#34. Herman Frank / The Devil Rides Out. Really stunned this one didn’t make the cut. Mostly balls out metal, with a touch of ‘power’.
#37. Thunderstone / Apocalypse Again. Kept getting better with every listen. I really dig Pasi on the mic
#39. Crystal Palace / Dawn of Eternity - More prog than metal here. Very much in the vein of Subsignal/Sieges Even/Speaking to Stones
#40. Fatal Destiny / Palindromia - 33 min EP, but filled with lots of great prog-metal, and diverse; production is a little lacking.
#42. Corona Skies / Fragments of Reality - another shorty (only 42 mins). Lots of diversity in this one… pop, jazz, technical … but all prog goodness.
#43. Derdian / Revolution. Just missed my “A” (80%) ranking. High quality power metal with compilation vocalists (incl Apollo, Henning Basse, DC Cooper, Fabio, and Ralf); some great; some just very good.

I'm just looking out for everyone's best interests - and by "best interests", I mean the worst interests for your bank account. :lol

Anyone else got any albums that Brent failed to offer for our consideration?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2017, 06:30:22 AM: I do really like the Heaven Below Chad...........discovered it after it was too late for the podcast (marked it "2017" for list purposes). At a guess it would've landed in the 20's somewhere.

The Enbound I thought was solid - all good tracks but nothing stood out to me.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 17, 2017, 06:37:21 AM: The only one of those I know is Thunderstone. I began warming up to it the more I listened, but I don't really rate it that highly. Pasi is great as always though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2017, 07:52:06 AM: Peter Criss is doing some stuff in Melbourne shortly..........apparently his last ever Australian appearance. Dinner and show $695 or double that if you want a table near the great man.

Also doing some sort of Kiss Konvention but the detail of what's on show are very light on. Apparently Bruce Kulick will be there too. I doubt I'll bother (had thought of taking Ben until I saw the prices) - seems like a last ditch cash in. Costs $35 to get in and $15 to reserve a spot in the line to get things signed at $65 per item (US dollars please :lol )
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 17, 2017, 07:58:34 AM: Peter Criss should be paying us to see him. :lol
I heard about the convention, and laughed when I found out Criss would be there. Not like he has anything else going. Kulick would be cool though. Those prices aren't too out there for a convention in this country, although $15 to stand in line seems silly. What about photo ops though?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2017, 08:19:22 AM: It's actually a 2 day thing and more like $75/day. Same deal for photos as for signing - pay for a spot in the line and then $65 (AUD$85) for a pro photo.

Very little info about as to what's on display - he's charging exhibitors to have stalls there so no doubt there'll be the usual guys flogging air brush shirts and so on. I have my doubts as to the quality of what will be there as KISS themselves don't seem involved.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 17, 2017, 08:23:03 AM: Why would you pay for a spot in line when you're already paying to get a photo? This makes no sense! :lol
Aside from that, that photo price is about what you'd pay at a regular convention for a higher end guest. Peter Criss ain't worth half that though. :biggrin:
I'd want the convention to have more than that to justify the cost though. I know there are some bands playing, but nobody I've even heard of. I think it's going to be pretty scrappy.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2017, 08:28:38 AM: The main band is Four By Fate who aren't bad - I had them in a recent podcast. They're doing a show and clinics. Tod Howarth on vox/guitar (ex Frehley's Comet)......he's good and also Rob Affuso (ex-Skid Row) on drums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 17, 2017, 08:30:35 AM: Yeah, I saw the poster for it. Never heard of this band though, or any of their music. I'm also behind on the most recent podcasts!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on March 17, 2017, 08:40:16 AM: It took me a couple of days to get back to the podcast. I wasn't really feeling it during the top 20 until we got to Chris Green.

:jawdrop:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on March 17, 2017, 10:50:48 AM: Okay, all finished up now.

The top five were stupendous! Thanks so much to you and your wee lad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 17, 2017, 12:14:02 PM: Talking about Kiss, the reunion rumors don't seem to stop and I see Ace feeding the rumors more and more. I don't hear much about Peter, but I could imagine he is interested in another big payday too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 17, 2017, 01:19:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 17, 2017, 12:14:02 PM
Talking about Kiss, the reunion rumors don't seem to stop and I see Ace feeding the rumors more and more. I don't hear much about Peter, but I could imagine he is interested in another big payday too.

Ace appears to have straightened himself out in the last few years. Peter will always be a prick, and couldn't physically play on the tour years ago. He'd have no chance now.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 17, 2017, 02:38:14 PM: If they were going to do any kind of a reunion tour, I could only see it having to include Ace and Paul; wouldn't seem right just to bring in Ace. But Ace definitely has straightened himself up and I'm sure he would do just fine. I agree with Paul that Criss wouldn't cut it most likely.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 17, 2017, 03:14:07 PM: Unless Tommy Thayer leaves of his own accord, I don't see it happening.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 18, 2017, 07:18:55 PM: First album I'm listening to in full from Brent's Best of 2016 countdown is Disharmonic Fields' Devil's Weapon Shot.

This is an awesome album, Brent! :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on March 18, 2017, 08:18:37 PM: I reckon there is more chance of Bruce Kullick being the next Kiss guitarist than Ace.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2017, 10:45:31 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on March 18, 2017, 08:18:37 PM
I reckon there is more chance of Bruce Kullick being the next Kiss guitarist than Ace.

I'd prefer that anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 19, 2017, 03:34:29 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 18, 2017, 07:18:55 PM
First album I'm listening to in full from Brent's Best of 2016 countdown is Disharmonic Fields' Devil's Weapon Shot.

This is an awesome album, Brent! :tup

That was ok but it lead me to Lunar Shadow on YouTube and I liked that a lot. Very Candlemass crossed with power metal.
I'm enjoying the Meshiaak too 😀🤘
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2017, 04:47:03 AM: Fuck, I've never really liked Motley Crue or checked out anything the guys in the band have done, but that Sixx AM was fucking awesome. Certainly one I have to check out, probably my fav song on this countdown so far.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2017, 05:15:07 AM: The Wicked Maraya was fucking tasty.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 19, 2017, 05:54:43 AM: I'm four (and a half) albums in so far:

Binary Creed / A Battle Won - holy fuck that was melt my ears awesome!! :hefdaddy :metal
Symphonity / King of Persia - normally, I can only take Herbie's voice in short bursts. But he was quite diverse here.
Wicked Maraya / Lifetime in Hell - definitely an old-school metal vibe here. Had some Metallica-esque moments.
Danger Angel / All The King's Horses - despite some pop-synth moments, this too melted my ears after they recovered from Binary Creed. The title track could be top-5 of the year for me.
Eleventh Hour / Memory of A Lifetime Journey - I'm currently 1/2 way thru this one, and it's fucking brilliant. Tremendous balance between heavy and light.

I'm feeling many purchases coming on.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 19, 2017, 06:12:20 AM: Not feeling the Wicked Maraya at all. Edit -actually it is starting to grow. Wasn't into the singer at first but it's getting better. In fact I was in a shitty mood yesterday and that probably meant I didn't give them much of a chance.

The last Binary Creed was pretty good so not sure how I missed this one.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 19, 2017, 06:16:13 AM: Liking the Symphonity too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 07:46:54 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 19, 2017, 04:47:03 AM
Fuck, I've never really liked Motley Crue or checked out anything the guys in the band have done, but that Sixx AM was fucking awesome. Certainly one I have to check out, probably my fav song on this countdown so far.

Huh, I don't even remember Sixx AM being in the countdown.

EDIT: Just dloaded the tracklist. I see it, which is weird because Megadeth came right after it, and I didn't remember hearing them either. I must've blacked out from too much metal during that portion.

Quote from: jingle.boy on March 19, 2017, 05:54:43 AM
Binary Creed / A Battle Won - holy fuck that was melt my ears awesome!! :hefdaddy :metal

This is on today's agenda.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 09:22:46 AM: Going to give Disharmonic Fields an edge over Binary Creed...

...onto Mercury Falling!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2017, 09:26:58 AM: If you like Mercury Falling Tim make sure you check out the 2012 album..................try Queen Of Pain as a sampler :metal
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 09:51:29 AM: I was just done with Art Of War, when I was about to call it quits on this one....but I jumped ahead to the Introspection Suite. Liking this better than the first half of the album.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2017, 09:59:51 AM: Yeah...........that's why I chose King For One Day as it's the start of my favourite half of the album (and was reasonably short ). As I mentioned in the show the Into The Void album is clearly their best overall effort IMO.
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 02:22:12 PM: The Mercury Falling was like listening to two completely different albums.

Onto Handful Of Rain now!
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 02:25:14 PM: Randy Rhoads died 35 years ago today. Damn.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2017, 02:58:10 PM: I wonder how the Ozzy albums would have played out if Randy was still his guitarist.

That Tribute live album is fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2017, 05:22:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2017, 02:58:10 PM
I wonder how the Ozzy albums would have played out if Randy was still his guitarist.

Those first two albums made that combination one of the best in metal history, if Randy were still alive, Ozzy's solo career would have just taken over the world. Grunge might not have even happened. ;D
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 05:29:05 PM: 200 pages!!!!!

Finished Handful Of Rain, and of the 4 albums I've heard so far from the Top 43, it's the weakest.

Now on to the Attacker! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2017, 05:30:24 PM: The chances of Randy being able to put up with Ozzy for another 35 years are about the same as Tim making a Winger/Autograph/Night Ranger mixtape.

I do recall Ozzy saying that Randy had told him that it wouldn't be long and he would be returning to classical guitar and teaching so it may well not have turned out much different. Maybe one more album with Randy and then Jake.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2017, 05:31:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 19, 2017, 05:29:05 PM
200 pages!!!!!

:metal
:metal
:metal
:metal

Dominating GMD ;D
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 05:33:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 19, 2017, 05:30:24 PM
The chances of Randy being able to put up with Ozzy for another 35 years are about the same as Tim making a Winger/Autograph/Night Ranger mixtape.

Which is Australian for pretty slim! :D

Quote from: bl5150 on March 19, 2017, 05:30:24 PM
I do recall Ozzy saying that Randy had told him that it wouldn't be long and he would be returning to classical guitar and teaching so it may well not have turned out much different. Maybe one more album with Randy and then Jake.

If I'm not mistaken. didn't he agree to do one more album? It may be addressed in Sarzo's book.

*goes and gets the book*
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Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2017, 05:34:32 PM: I haven't seen Sarzo's book. I am sure it has the competition licked :neverusethis:
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 05:46:30 PM: It's called Off The Rails. It details his time on Ozzy's band. It pretty good. A little monotonous as it seems based on his tour diary. "Arrived in this town, checked into this hotel, had lunch at..."

But yes, rereading some of it, Randy had agreed to do one more studio album and tour.
Apparently, plans had been made to record a live album of Sabbath classics that Randy refused to play on. Fearful that Ozzy would fire his friends, he reluctantly agreed, but told Ozzy and Sharon he was out after the next album. he was making plans on going back to music school.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2017, 05:56:37 PM: Speaking of............

https://youtu.be/79P7dsS_N0w

Not bad - Sarzo, Scotti Hill and Tichy on drums.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2017, 05:56:46 PM: Damn, I didn't know any of that. It seemed like they were the best of friends and would play together forever.
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 06:02:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 19, 2017, 05:56:46 PM
Damn, I didn't know any of that. It seemed like they were the best of friends and would play together forever.

When Randy told Ozzy and Sharon that he wasn't going to do the Sabbath show, it created a big rift. Randy just felt that it would be a step back in his (Randy's) career. This was mid tour, a little more than a month before Randy was killed. After Randy told them, Ozzy went on a major bender and the confronted the band and told them they were fired. The next day, they were to travel to San Antonio, and Sharon told the band (Sarzo/Randy/Aldridge/Airey) to fly there separate from Ozzy on the bus, and in fact, take all of their equipment with them. Sharon would try and smooth things over with him. Apparently when Ozzy got to San Antonio, he was still drinking, which led up to him pissing on The Alamo.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2017, 06:03:47 PM: Yeah I guess it would have been extremely unlikely that Randy would have put up with Ozzy for the remainder of the excess 80's. That's asking too much.

And congrats to the greatest thread on the Internet for 200 pages!!
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 06:05:07 PM: I'm going to the doctor tomorrow to get new ears because the Attacker just melted mine off. Damn.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2017, 06:13:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 19, 2017, 06:05:07 PM
I'm going to the doctor tomorrow to get new ears because the Attacker just melted mine off. Damn.

I don't think a doctor can give you new ears.
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 06:21:01 PM: What?
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2017, 06:28:14 PM: You have to type louder Kade
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 06:54:40 PM: Last album I will check out tonight is Eternity's End.
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2017, 07:33:15 PM: To rate them so far:

1. Eternity's End
2. Disharmonic Fields
3. Attacker
4. Mercury Falling
5. Handful Of Rain
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 20, 2017, 12:40:59 AM: :metal :metal :metal congrats to 200 :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2017, 02:01:58 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 20, 2017, 12:40:59 AM
:metal :metal :metal congrats to 200 :clap: :clap: :clap:

Nice one everyone
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2017, 05:51:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 19, 2017, 06:21:01 PM
What?

I said I don't think a doctor can you you new ears.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 09:28:53 AM: Mentioned this elsewhere, but: Went to a local Frank Hannon gig here in town on Saturday night, and he dedicated his set to Chuck and started it off with Johnny B. Goode. It has become so cliché to cover that song that most rock musicians nowadays will avoid it, but it was perfect in this setting.

The set itself was really good. Between the opener and Frank's band, there were a LOT of classics played, including Lights Out In London, Fire On the Mountain, Since I've Been Lovin' You, Man on the Silver Mountain, Rock Candy, You Can't Always Get What You Want, and many others. Tommy McClendon joined Frank onstage as a third guitar for a big portion of the set, which was really cool. Greg Golden opened. All in all, pretty fun gig.
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Post by: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 10:41:19 AM: Just to add to the above post. This doesn't completely fit this thread, but there isn't really a thread for it that I am aware of, and I don't know that it really warrants a separate one, so I'll just put it here.

After the show on Saturday, I have all these old, classic tunes rattling around in my head. Some of them I knew. Others are songs I hadn't heard before, or at least never noticed if I did. But I am really digging a lot of them.

But I feel like I need to give some background. I was born in 1970 (which makes the math for a lot of this pretty easy). A lot of the music I was initially exposed to up to 8 years old was older. Used to be referred to as "oldies," but I don't know what you would call it now. After 9 or so, I was exposed a lot more to some of the more current music of that time. But not really much exposure to classic '60s and '70s rock. When I started to really notice music on my own, it was around '82-'86 or so that I was making most of my initial musical discoveries, and I gravitated toward '80s hard rock. Def Leppard, Dio, Scorpions, Y&T...that sort of thing. Also some of what we would now consider "softer" rock, like Queen, Journey, etc. For no real good reason, I rejected the more "classic" (at the time) '60s and '70s rock altogether, and that included bands that were putting out music in the '80s that had kept a somewhat classic '70s sound, like Montrose, UFO, and the like. There are some bands that I still feel that way about. For example, I still can't stand Zep. But they are a classic example of where I am going in this thread. I have been opening up a LOT more to the songs from the period of the '60s through the early '80s. It is a process that has taken a long time. It probably started in the early '90s when a Pink Floyd tribute band helped me realize that I shouldn't hate on Floyd, and I subsequently began exploring their music and found that I really, really liked a lot (but not all) of it. I have had similar experiences with a lot of bands. But the interesting thing is, and I will use Zep as my example, a lot of times, I find that I enjoy really well done modern covers of some of those older songs a lot more than the originals. With Zep for instance, it still hurts my ears to hear Plant screeching those lyrics and to hear that awful '70s guitar tone. But give me a good cover band with a vocalist whose voice isn't so thin and shrill, and a slightly more modern guitar tone, and I'm all over it and can appreciate how well-written some of those songs are.

I am finding that I am that way with a lot of that stuff. Tesla's Reel To Reel albums back in the early 2000s exposed me to a lot of that stuff that I had been missing. In fact, I am starting to realize that Frank Hannon in particular has such awesome taste in music from that era, and he alone has single-handedly exposed me to a ton of both obscure and classic material that I otherwise would have completely overlooked. For some, I find that I am perfectly happy hearing a good cover. For others, I am finding that the covers have inspired me to go back and listen to and appreciate the originals. Not really sure what I am trying to say beyond that or where I am trying to go. Maybe what I should do is make a play list of some of these old songs that I am finding myself enjoying, plug that into Pandora, and see what else comes up that I like. If there are other tools like that that will help me discover more of what I like from that era and hone in on what works for me, I'm all ears to suggestions.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2017, 11:26:00 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 10:41:19 AM
*snip (because paragraph 2 doesn't deserve to be quoted)*

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 11:35:27 AM: ???
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2017, 11:41:02 AM: I thought everyone knew that Zeppelin is my #1 band of all time...

SO YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!!!

Also, new Labyrinth song/video last week. Don't think anyone mentioned it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMpkcssnvZU
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2017, 11:43:54 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 20, 2017, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 10:41:19 AM
*snip (because paragraph 2 doesn't deserve to be quoted)*

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Yes! Yes! Yes! (Insert Meg Ryan gif). It's not just me. I'm not alone. :lol I hate Robert Plant. Can't stand him. Can't listen to him and can't watch him. Glenn Hughes too. Annoys the shit out of me. Phew. I feel better now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 11:45:24 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 20, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
I thought everyone knew that Zeppelin is my #1 band of all time...

SO YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!!!

1. Sucks to be you then.
2. I don't mention Zep at all in paragraph 2. So ??? Canadian math strikes again. :lol
3. When I finally do mention them in paragraph 3, I'm actually kinda praising them. Sorta.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2017, 11:53:31 AM: You're right... I err'd in mentioning paragraph 2. It's an awfully backhanded compliment though. It's like saying "boy, you don't sweat much for a heavy fella".

Quote from: Lowdz on March 20, 2017, 11:43:54 AM
Yes! Yes! Yes! (Insert Meg Ryan gif). It's not just me. I'm not alone. :lol I hate Robert Plant. Can't stand him. Can't listen to him and can't watch him. Glenn Hughes too. Annoys the shit out of me. Phew. I feel better now.

Why don't you go and Brexit your ass outta here? :lol
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Post by: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 12:04:44 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 20, 2017, 11:53:31 AM
You're right... I err'd in mentioning paragraph 2. It's an awfully backhanded compliment though. It's like saying "boy, you don't sweat much for a heavy fella".

Or, "You sure have gorgeous locks for a follicly-challenged fella." :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2017, 12:19:27 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 20, 2017, 11:53:31 AM
You're right... I err'd in mentioning paragraph 2. It's an awfully backhanded compliment though. It's like saying "boy, you don't sweat much for a heavy fella".

Quote from: Lowdz on March 20, 2017, 11:43:54 AM
Yes! Yes! Yes! (Insert Meg Ryan gif). It's not just me. I'm not alone. :lol I hate Robert Plant. Can't stand him. Can't listen to him and can't watch him. Glenn Hughes too. Annoys the shit out of me. Phew. I feel better now.

Why don't you go and Brexit your ass outta here? :lol

:lol
Can't wait to escape from the clutches of herr Merkel.

And my personal favourite backhanded compliment,
TAC said you weren't fit to sleep with pigs but it's alright because I said you were!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 12:41:47 PM: Anyway, where's TAC? I was looking forward to his comments on what I posted since he is one of the few who is likely to know who Tommy McClendon is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2017, 12:45:47 PM: Atomik Tommy M!!!! :metal

I'll be back shortly. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 01:17:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2017, 12:45:47 PM
Atomik Tommy M!!!! :metal

:lol Yup. I was unfamiliar prior to this. But I loved his playing. And he has such an amazing laid-back yet commanding stage presence. I was about 5-10 feet from him most of the gig.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2017, 01:32:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2017, 12:45:47 PM
Atomik Tommy M!!!! :metal

I'll be back shortly. ;D

His album with UFO is awesome.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2017, 01:49:58 PM: Just found this on YouTube. Epk for the Magnus Karlsson Ronnie Romero project The Ferrymen
https://youtu.be/vDBAIBacVZk

This is going to be great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2017, 02:15:35 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on March 20, 2017, 12:41:47 PM
Anyway, where's TAC? I was looking forward to his comments on what I posted since he is one of the few who is likely to know who Tommy McClendon is.

OK..The Reel To Reel albums have some great tunes. Their cover of UFO's Rock Bottom is outstanding, as is Thin Lizzy's Bad Reputation. And the cover to Alice's Is It My Body is cool.

The UFO influence on Tesla is obvious, and it was clear right away when I first got into Tesla in 1986.

Quote from: Lowdz on March 20, 2017, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2017, 12:45:47 PM
Atomik Tommy M!!!! :metal
His album with UFO is awesome.

Ah yes, Misdemeanor. Love it love it love it.

Bosk, here are some clips from the Misdemeanor Tour Live video.

Wreckless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sahDULDeFB4

Meanstreets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwhyZHVHNiE

Heaven's Gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWMEO6--LrU

These are the three best tunes on the Misdemeanor album.
BTW Bosk, the singer is Phil Mogg. He was the subject of Podaar's takeover of Kev's Singer Of The Day Thread. This is late 1985 and suffice it to say, this preceeded his clean and sober days. :lol
He is playing quite loose with the lyrics too :lol :lol

Tommy is awesome in these clips though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on March 20, 2017, 03:27:43 PM: Those aren't proper Mogg videos, he didn't throw a single punch! :omg:
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2017, 03:28:41 PM: Im with you bosk, can't fucking stand zep or plant and page is overrated as fuck!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2017, 03:34:22 PM: Quote from: Podaar on March 20, 2017, 03:27:43 PM
Those aren't proper Mogg videos, he didn't throw a single punch! :omg:

:lol

He is absolutely fried in that show. I saw them the following June.

I was rereading part of my Rudy Sarzo book today as I was having an offline discussion with Brent, and there's a part about UFO opening for Ozzy and the UFO guys got into a brawl backstage....with each other! :lol
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Post by: Podaar on March 20, 2017, 03:40:48 PM: Once a boxer, always a boxer.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2017, 03:53:06 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 20, 2017, 03:28:41 PM
Im with you bosk, can't fucking stand zep or plant and page is overrated as fuck!

(https://m.quickmeme.com/img/53/53c9b1c01e00dfe36a367f0044fc78ac5c06e66414e18eb6761ecb418f7f0fc0.jpg)
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Post by: Podaar on March 20, 2017, 04:02:08 PM: I've always loved Zep, but to be fair, I was never a fan of Plant until... and this is a big until... I witnessed a 19 year-old, tall drink of water, named Elanna spontaneously "happen" during a midnight showing of The Song Remains the Same. Her knees were clamped together tight enough to pinch a blister and she accidentally elbowed me every time Plant moaned out another, "Push, push." It was glorious! I've been an admirer ever since.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2017, 04:03:46 PM: Seems Podaar just copyright infringed from Stadler. Just changed the names. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on March 20, 2017, 04:06:56 PM: No way, Stadler had the same experience? I don't believe you, TAC.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2017, 04:14:58 PM: Quote from: Podaar on March 20, 2017, 04:06:56 PM
No way, Stadler had the same experience? I don't believe you, TAC.

Quote from: Stadler on March 20, 2017, 07:28:10 AM
I went to see Guns and Roses at a club in Philly in 2012, and I was standing right at a railing about midway back; to my left was the access to the handicapped seats, and to my right were round tables in front of the bar. Sitting at the table was this cute girl - she absolutely knew how to wear those jeans ... and as the show progressed (it was a three hour plus show) she was dancing, and because of space, we came in contact, and I made little (read: NO) effort to move. It is hard to describe now without seeming... weird, but we spent about two hours jamming to G'n'R, and while we never said a word to each other, she basically rubbed her ass against me surreptitiously for most of that time.

:neverusethis:
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Post by: Podaar on March 20, 2017, 04:17:47 PM: :lol

I would have given just about anything to have Alanna rub her ass against me, unfortunately she was going with my buddy who was sitting on the other side. And no, his name wasn't Jesse. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 20, 2017, 04:24:16 PM: Speaking of what the UFO boys got up to back in the day .............I have only heard snippets in the odd doco but there is a theory that some of the UFO boys had more than a little to do with the death of Bon Scott. What is the official TAC view on that one?
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Post by: Podaar on March 20, 2017, 05:13:39 PM: :corn
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Post by: TAC on March 20, 2017, 05:37:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 20, 2017, 04:24:16 PM
Speaking of what the UFO boys got up to back in the day .............I have only heard snippets in the odd doco but there is a theory that some of the UFO boys had more than a little to do with the death of Bon Scott. What is the official TAC view on that one?

I honestly had never heard of any connection until your post. I found this very interesting article:
https://teamrock.com/feature/2016-07-09/what-really-happened-on-the-night-bon-scott-died
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Post by: TAC on March 20, 2017, 05:39:41 PM: This is the pic that is referenced. I've seen this before. Back in the day I had this great Ross Halfin photo book.

(https://www.rosshalfin.com/diary/may-2016/UFO035.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2017, 06:15:33 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 20, 2017, 01:49:58 PM
Just found this on YouTube. Epk for the Magnus Karlsson Ronnie Romero project The Ferrymen
https://youtu.be/vDBAIBacVZk

This is going to be great.

Sounds fucking heavy, bring it on. Magnus' guitar tones lately have been huge!
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2017, 06:20:55 AM: Didn't expect to see the Apollo in the countdown let alone so high. Didn't do much for me, might have to revisit it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on March 21, 2017, 08:11:11 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2017, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: Podaar on March 20, 2017, 04:06:56 PM
No way, Stadler had the same experience? I don't believe you, TAC.

Quote from: Stadler on March 20, 2017, 07:28:10 AM
I went to see Guns and Roses at a club in Philly in 2012, and I was standing right at a railing about midway back; to my left was the access to the handicapped seats, and to my right were round tables in front of the bar. Sitting at the table was this cute girl - she absolutely knew how to wear those jeans ... and as the show progressed (it was a three hour plus show) she was dancing, and because of space, we came in contact, and I made little (read: NO) effort to move. It is hard to describe now without seeming... weird, but we spent about two hours jamming to G'n'R, and while we never said a word to each other, she basically rubbed her ass against me surreptitiously for most of that time.

:neverusethis:

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 22, 2017, 06:34:16 AM: Hitting another of Brent's 2016 albums to this morning. Spellcaster.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2017, 05:56:43 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 22, 2017, 06:34:16 AM
Hitting another of Brent's 2016 albums to this morning. Spellcaster.

This song that Brent gave us was very impressive indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2017, 06:00:28 AM: That Death Angel was pretty sweet, have to check that one out too. Never gave any of their stuff a listen I don't think.

Brent, you mentioned Kreator there, you enjoyed the album they put out a couple of months abck? I loved it, thought it was quite brilliant.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2017, 06:44:04 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 23, 2017, 06:00:28 AM
That Death Angel was pretty sweet, have to check that one out too. Never gave any of their stuff a listen I don't think.

Brent, you mentioned Kreator there, you enjoyed the album they put out a couple of months abck? I loved it, thought it was quite brilliant.

Yeah - thought it was good with 2-3 standout tracks. Their early stuff was the sort of Euro thrash I never liked but their new melodic vibe is a big move in the right direction as far as my taste goes.
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Post by: Big Hath on March 23, 2017, 09:10:31 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 23, 2017, 06:00:28 AM
That Death Angel was pretty sweet, have to check that one out too.

yes, this needs to happen
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 23, 2017, 10:47:44 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on March 23, 2017, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 23, 2017, 06:00:28 AM
That Death Angel was pretty sweet, have to check that one out too.

yes, this needs to happen

I liked it. The only other I've heard by them is Act III, which I really liked.
Have heard a track or two of the Kreator, having dismissed them as not my thing previously. Will have to check it out.
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Post by: Samsara on March 23, 2017, 11:28:57 AM: Wolf, Lowdz,

Death Angel is amazing. My favorite is easily The Dream Calls for Blood. I didn't see what DA you checked out, but if you haven't listened to that one, do it. Trust me.
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Post by: Podaar on March 23, 2017, 11:31:44 AM: Yeah, I just listened to Death Angel-The Evil Divide too. :metal Fun album! I thought the closer Let the Pieces Fall was particularly excellent. :hefdaddy
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Post by: Podaar on March 23, 2017, 12:14:55 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on March 23, 2017, 11:28:57 AM
Wolf, Lowdz,

Death Angel is amazing. My favorite is easily The Dream Calls for Blood. I didn't see what DA you checked out, but if you haven't listened to that one, do it. Trust me.

Holy shit, Succubus off that album is fantastic! :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 23, 2017, 12:28:18 PM: I've only heard Act III from Death Angel, which I thought was solid
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2017, 12:46:13 PM: The vocals kill them for me, but last year's album was excellent, musically and much more well rounded than their classic material.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2017, 03:16:33 PM: I listened - putting my faith in Brent/Hath/Lowdz.

I was disappoint.
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Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2017, 04:41:00 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on March 23, 2017, 11:28:57 AM
Wolf, Lowdz,

Death Angel is amazing. My favorite is easily The Dream Calls for Blood. I didn't see what DA you checked out, but if you haven't listened to that one, do it. Trust me.

Will do Brian.
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Post by: TAC on March 23, 2017, 06:51:52 PM: Sib Hashian RIP
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/sib-hashian-boston-drummer-dies-at-67/ar-BByDE4Z?li=BBnb2gh

WTF? Collapsed while performing on The Legends Of Rock Cruise.
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Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2017, 06:55:12 PM: Good lord, that's just terrible and would have been shocking for everyone there. RIP.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2017, 07:40:37 PM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on March 23, 2017, 11:28:57 AM
Wolf, Lowdz,

Death Angel is amazing. My favorite is easily The Dream Calls for Blood. I didn't see what DA you checked out, but if you haven't listened to that one, do it. Trust me.

Just had a listen. Really strong thrash, nice production and some killer riffing, good stuff!
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Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2017, 05:45:13 AM: Finally made it to the end of the podcast and a worthy number 1, it would probably be my fav of the year too. I actually liked a lot of the songs mid countdown than most of the top 10. Got some albums to check out though.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2017, 06:23:15 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 24, 2017, 05:45:13 AM
Finally made it to the end of the podcast and a worthy number 1, it would probably be my fav of the year too. I actually liked a lot of the songs mid countdown than most of the top 10. Got some albums to check out though.

There's songs early in the podcast that I like better than later ones too.............in the end it's just one song representing an album and , as a rule , I view the albums in the higher rankings as more consistent.

As an aside Ben is playing football tomorrow night on the MCG in front of 80,000 people during the half time break in the senior game :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 24, 2017, 06:32:53 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 24, 2017, 05:45:13 AM
I actually liked a lot of the songs mid countdown than most of the top 10. Got some albums to check out though.

Ditto. Not much of the Top 10 floated my boat.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 24, 2017, 10:27:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 24, 2017, 06:23:15 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 24, 2017, 05:45:13 AM
Finally made it to the end of the podcast and a worthy number 1, it would probably be my fav of the year too. I actually liked a lot of the songs mid countdown than most of the top 10. Got some albums to check out though.

There's songs early in the podcast that I like better than later ones too.............in the end it's just one song representing an album and , as a rule , I view the albums in the higher rankings as more consistent.

As an aside Ben is playing football tomorrow night on the MCG in front of 80,000 people during the half time break in the senior game :metal

Wish him the best of luck from me!
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2017, 12:52:33 PM: Yeah Go Ben!! :metal
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2017, 12:53:20 PM: What is the MCG anyway?
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 24, 2017, 01:00:44 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 24, 2017, 06:23:15 AM
As an aside Ben is playing football tomorrow night on the MCG in front of 80,000 people during the half time break in the senior game :metal

Wow, that's cool. :tup Best wishes for him .

And I assume you aussies mean football when you talk football and not the thing that is played with hands and eggs. :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2017, 01:24:21 PM: Messages passed on to Ben :azn:

Quote from: TAC on March 24, 2017, 12:53:20 PM
What is the MCG anyway?

This is a photo of the MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground) just prior to the recent GnR gig I attended - holds around 100,000 people and is the biggest stadium in Australia .

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QD1P45PhaX8/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 24, 2017, 01:51:57 PM: Take some pics Brent. I mean Ben will be an ant, but he'll be our ant!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 24, 2017, 01:58:46 PM: Sorry to impose on the Ben footy thread :biggrin:

New Warrant. I like it. Can't get enough of Robert Mason's voice and I like the surf vibe in the breakdown.

https://youtu.be/uiuzTXuxMnM
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 24, 2017, 02:00:07 PM: Ben Beckham!
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2017, 02:02:09 PM: Nice try Paul.

Ben it like Beckham.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 24, 2017, 02:03:47 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 24, 2017, 01:58:46 PM
Sorry to impose on the Ben footy thread :biggrin:

New Warrant. I like it. Can't get enough of Robert Mason's voice and I like the surf vibe in the breakdown.

https://youtu.be/uiuzTXuxMnM

Pretty good tune. I really liked Masons vocals on that Lynch Mob album and he seems like a good fit for the band. I really havent paid any attention to Warrant except for a few tunes on that Jamie St James album, which I thought were good as well.
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2017, 02:05:18 PM: Maybe I'll check it out when I get home. I literally wouldn't know what to do with Warrant.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 24, 2017, 02:07:17 PM: I've never been a big fan, but I will say that Uncle Toms Cabin is a major kick ass tune and one of the best of the entire hair metal era.
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2017, 02:22:57 PM: Awesome tune.

Actually I saw Warrant twice. Once in an arena (opening for Motley Crüe) and once in a club (opening for Paul Stanley) and they were awesome in both settings.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 24, 2017, 02:30:29 PM: Jani Lane had a darn good voice.

Couple of their other standout tracks were off the Dog Eat Dog album. "All My Bridges are Burning" and "Quicksand" are great tunes. That was a pretty good album, but Warrant were off the music radar at that point
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Post by: Lowdz on March 24, 2017, 02:39:49 PM: Jain was a talented songwriter. Dog Eat Dog is a great album.
Can't remember if I've seen them or not... old age and too many gigs as a youngster. They supported Dave Lee Roth in 91 and I saw that tour.
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Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2017, 04:03:13 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 24, 2017, 06:23:15 AM
As an aside Ben is playing football tomorrow night on the MCG in front of 80,000 people during the half time break in the senior game :metal

That's fucking awesome man!
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2017, 07:39:02 PM: So I mentioned the other night that I gave the new Blaze Bayley a listen. Tonight I'm giving it a second listen. I am really liking it.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2017, 03:36:08 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 24, 2017, 07:39:02 PM
So I mentioned the other night that I gave the new Blaze Bayley a listen. Tonight I'm giving it a second listen. I am really liking it.

Just been having a listen. I would love this with a better singer but I enjoyed it. The band are great.
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Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2017, 04:31:13 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 24, 2017, 07:39:02 PM
So I mentioned the other night that I gave the new Blaze Bayley a listen. Tonight I'm giving it a second listen. I am really liking it.

From what I've heard it sounds like a step up from the last one, even though that was quite solid.
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Post by: TAC on March 26, 2017, 06:29:30 AM: I listened to the first one only once. I thought there was something missing. I found Endure And Survive much more impactful.

I may relisten to Infinite Entanglement today.
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Post by: TAC on March 26, 2017, 01:11:10 PM: Listening to the Divine Weep album. This is pretty damn cool. Thanks Brent!
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2017, 05:01:40 AM: Indeed... I've listened to 17/32 albums that I had to check out. So far my only duds are False Coda and Disharminc Fields. Meshiaak was so-so. Everything else has ranged from very good to great.
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Post by: bosk1 on March 27, 2017, 08:38:39 AM: Warrant were an interesting band. I caught them as an opener for Britney Fox before their first album dropped, and I was blown away. I remember picking up DRFSR right when it was released and listening to it nonstop. I had a few people ask me who they were when I would be listening. It wouldn't be long before people didn't have to ask, because if you were anywhere near MTV, you knew. I really dug the second album as well. But they lost me with Dog Eat Dog.

Mason is a solid pickup. But I dunno. It just doesn't grab me. And I hate to live in the past, but Mason's vocals aside, there isn't anything about it that makes me think "Warrant."
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Post by: Lowdz on March 27, 2017, 12:57:09 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on March 27, 2017, 08:38:39 AM
Warrant were an interesting band. I caught them as an opener for Britney Fox before their first album dropped, and I was blown away. I remember picking up DRFSR right when it was released and listening to it nonstop. I had a few people ask me who they were when I would be listening. It wouldn't be long before people didn't have to ask, because if you were anywhere near MTV, you knew. I really dug the second album as well. But they lost me with Dog Eat Dog.

Mason is a solid pickup. But I dunno. It just doesn't grab me. And I hate to live in the past, but Mason's vocals aside, there isn't anything about it that makes me think "Warrant."

Dog Eat Dog is awesome!
DRFSR was ok. Cherry Pie was better, but DED was the best.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 27, 2017, 01:06:56 PM: Just listened to the new Bonfire album. Wasn't prepared for the heavying up of the sound. New singer has a more metal voice than Klaus Lessman. It's a bit more Euro metal than I was expecting. Really liked it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2017, 01:34:48 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 27, 2017, 12:57:09 PM
Dog Eat Dog is awesome!
DRFSR was ok. Cherry Pie was better, but DED was the best.

Quoted for truth.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2017, 05:05:25 PM: More from Labyrinth - may not rock as much as the other songs released thus far but what it does have is all those textures that I loved about Return To Heaven Denied , so count me in. Awesome Frontiers video too as per usual ;D

https://youtu.be/ajcjrkpwpK4
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Post by: TAC on March 28, 2017, 05:09:56 PM: Brent, how did Ben make out at the stadium?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2017, 05:15:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 28, 2017, 05:09:56 PM
Brent, how did Ben make out at the stadium?

Great thanks Tim. As you know he's very shy............he kicked a goal (one of only a couple in the short match) and gave the crowd a flex of his "guns" . I'm surprised he didn't give them the metal horns :lol

Unfortunately for us they had a couple of these mini matches running on the (huge) ground and Ben's was on the opposite side to where we were seated and so photos were very hard to get. I was having to go into "digital zoom" on the camera to see and that's when your resolution goes away. If I can find a photo posted on the club Facebook page (someone out on the ground took a few pics) I will post one.
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2017, 05:18:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 28, 2017, 05:05:25 PM
More from Labyrinth - may not rock as much as the other songs released thus far but what it does have is all those textures that I loved about Return To Heaven Denied , so count me in. Awesome Frontiers video too as per usual ;D

https://youtu.be/ajcjrkpwpK4

Not sure if I dig this or not. It's well done but nothing making me hard.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2017, 05:22:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 28, 2017, 05:18:36 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 28, 2017, 05:05:25 PM
More from Labyrinth - may not rock as much as the other songs released thus far but what it does have is all those textures that I loved about Return To Heaven Denied , so count me in. Awesome Frontiers video too as per usual ;D

https://youtu.be/ajcjrkpwpK4

Not sure if I dig this or not. It's well done but nothing making me hard.

I wouldn't rave - or get hard :lol - over the song but it does have the ingredients that make their music unique and so it's got me more interested than the other tracks which , to me , were good but missing "their sound".
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Post by: TAC on March 28, 2017, 06:05:18 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 28, 2017, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 28, 2017, 05:09:56 PM
Brent, how did Ben make out at the stadium?

Great thanks Tim. As you know he's very shy............he kicked a goal (one of only a couple in the short match) and gave the crowd a flex of his "guns" . I'm surprised he didn't give them the metal horns :lol

I can totally see him kicking the ball down the field going, "Cause I'm TNT, I'm dynamite..."
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 28, 2017, 06:17:10 PM: Good to hear that Ben did well at the game!
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Post by: TAC on March 28, 2017, 07:18:17 PM: So as you guys know, I just cannot get into Extreme, but I've been watching tonight this and enjoying it very much
Extreme-Donnington '94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI_sx4GBnww&t=364s
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Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2017, 07:08:36 AM: Awesome camera work. :metal

The next podcast is coming along nicely btw - the first of our "Best Of 80's-90's Rock Rarities" shows. It'll cover bands starting with #'s , A and B.
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Post by: Podaar on March 29, 2017, 07:10:40 AM: That sounds like fun, I'll look forward to it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 29, 2017, 07:27:50 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 29, 2017, 07:08:36 AM
The next podcast is coming along nicely btw - the first of our "Best Of 80's-90's Rock Rarities" shows. It'll cover bands starting with #'s , A and B.

So, this is episode 1 of 13 then? :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2017, 07:32:48 AM: Could be :D Although - without checking - I would guess that A's and B's take up more than their fair share of space in the alphabet.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 29, 2017, 07:46:35 AM: A Brent Rarities show is truly the rarest of the rare
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2017, 02:44:32 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 29, 2017, 07:46:35 AM
A Brent Rarities show is truly the rarest of the rare

Shit would be so rare that Brent doesn't even fucking know them!!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2017, 05:08:16 PM: SEVERE WEATHER WARNING FOR BRISBANE AND AS FAR SOUTH AS SYDNEY

As the remnants of Cyclone Debbie move south Kade is warned to stay inside and listen to metal.

A warning to Blob to stay inside is considered unnecessary

Seriously.........keep out of harm's way boyz.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 29, 2017, 10:22:47 PM: We are supposed to get thunderstorms and a shitload of rain today, but Sydney always gets hit much harder than we do a bit further out west. But I'll stay inside today just to be safe. :blob:
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 05:49:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 29, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
SEVERE WEATHER WARNING FOR BRISBANE AND AS FAR SOUTH AS SYDNEY

As the remnants of Cyclone Debbie move south Kade is warned to stay inside and listen to metal.

A warning to Blob to stay inside is considered unnecessary

Seriously.........keep out of harm's way boyz.

They talked it up but there was a fair bit of flooding and damage. All schools today were closed and businesses were all closed by 12pm, which was way over the top if you ask me. It was more precautionary as the worst was suppose to hit between 5pm-7pm so authorities were just trying to avoid peak hour chaos. The system kind of weakened though and has almost fizzled out. Was just a total pain in the ass and complete fuck around today on all counts but I can understand being overprotective I guess. I was driving around through the arvo and about an hour ago for work purposes anyway and it's pretty sweet now.

So against advice I was speeding around during a lot of it blasting metal. :metal
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Post by: TAC on March 30, 2017, 06:04:30 AM: So when there is flooding there, do the crocs end up in the streets? How big of a danger is that?
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 06:07:59 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 30, 2017, 06:04:30 AM
So when there is flooding there, do the crocs end up in the streets? How big of a danger is that?

There actually was a bull shark that ended up in the middle of the road up North which was pretty crazy. No crocs yet Tim, but I'll let you know in the morning if there are any walking the streets. Thought I saw a kangeroo body surfing in flood waters though on the way home. :tup
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Post by: Podaar on March 30, 2017, 06:13:24 AM: A buddy of mine who lives out by the Blue Mountains posted this picture this morning. His mate, Leigh, got his ute stuck in a pot hole.

(https://scontent.fsnc1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17458331_10210769117578126_8760955017844136882_n.jpg?oh=cc95c90fcf13a5585ed868dbe88f7d3a&oe=594EE416)

Don't tell Tim that Aussie's are great big lying bastards. Let's see if he sucks it in.
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 06:19:30 AM: Bugger! There's been a few of those sorts of pics today up here in Brissie too. Some unfortunate people just with their cars parked and some absolute fuckwits that can't seem to get through their thick heads that cars and flood waters don't gel.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 30, 2017, 07:38:44 AM: Wow crazy
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 30, 2017, 07:45:50 AM: Quote from: Podaar on March 30, 2017, 06:13:24 AM
A buddy of mine who lives out by the Blue Mountains posted this picture this morning. His mate, Leigh, got his ute stuck in a pot hole.

(https://scontent.fsnc1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17458331_10210769117578126_8760955017844136882_n.jpg?oh=cc95c90fcf13a5585ed868dbe88f7d3a&oe=594EE416)

Don't tell Tim that Aussie's are great big lying bastards. Let's see if he sucks it in.

Damn, that can't be too far from where I live.
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Post by: Big Hath on March 30, 2017, 09:50:14 AM: we got pelted with golf ball sized hail Sunday night. Lots of roof damage and cars driving around with holes in their windshields and dents all over. Looks like they just drove out of a war zone.

I was at the Katatonia concert that night which was at an outdoor venue, but luckily we were in the one place where the storm didn't hit. We did get a cool light show with all the lightning in the background.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 30, 2017, 11:30:00 AM: Figured this was the right place to drop this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_7RLOBerTo

"Wolfpakk unleash first new song "Blood Brothers" (feat. Saxon's Biff Byford) - taken from the new album "Wolves Reign", out April 28th."
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 07:38:45 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 30, 2017, 11:30:00 AM
Figured this was the right place to drop this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_7RLOBerTo

"Wolfpakk unleash first new song "Blood Brothers" (feat. Saxon's Biff Byford) - taken from the new album "Wolves Reign", out April 28th."

Meh, it's okay, but doesn't want to make me check out any more to be honest.
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 07:41:26 PM: I just sampled a couple of tracks from the new Sinner on youtube and it's sounding really good. Definitely will pick that one up I think.
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 08:07:41 PM: Man, so the catchments from the local rivers have now overflowed from the rain yesterday afternoon and as I said, it did weaken where I was a little and if it was as bad as what they predicted it would have been a catastrophe. Anyway, this morning as I sit at work typing this, the local suburbs have been quite devastated. Didn't think it would have gotten to this after last night to be honest, crazy stuff.

Some of my workers stranded and high tide is due right now so it could get worse. I have lived in this area since I was 5 and while we have had major floods here, we haven't had the suburbs that are affected today ever affected like this in before. I guess I was wrong about it not being that bad hahaha. Here's some pics;

This train station is 2 minutes away from where I am working right now;

(https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/8403932-3x2-700x467.jpg)

Same place, I work just up from here.

(https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/8404140-3x2-700x467.jpg)

This is a more inland suburb about half an hour away. One worker lives out here and is obviously stuck;

(https://media.apnarm.net.au/media/images/2017/03/31/jimboomba-py5nrd1xjswq5uzozn2_t460.jpg)

Again, 2 minutes down the road one street away;

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8NXGwiU0AAcXPe.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on March 30, 2017, 08:10:55 PM: Any crocs?
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 08:17:20 PM: :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 30, 2017, 08:31:38 PM: Nah TIm - just the odd shark :lol

(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e02f139be3c0a480c55175acfdfde1e8)
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 08:33:57 PM: That was more North though, nowhere near me unfortunately.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 30, 2017, 09:49:57 PM: These Sharknados are getting worse by the year!
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 31, 2017, 03:53:38 AM: In Sharknado 7, Kade is taking the place of Ian Ziering and beating the shit out of the sharknados with his guitar
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Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2017, 03:59:25 AM: As long as Tara Reid doesn't wash up here we'll be right.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 31, 2017, 05:12:47 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 30, 2017, 11:30:00 AM
Figured this was the right place to drop this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_7RLOBerTo

"Wolfpakk unleash first new song "Blood Brothers" (feat. Saxon's Biff Byford) - taken from the new album "Wolves Reign", out April 28th."

Meh, it's okay, but doesn't want to make me check out any more to be honest.

I agree with the first part of your statement... though I'm not a big fan if Biff's voice to begin with.
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Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2017, 06:05:14 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 31, 2017, 03:59:25 AM
As long as Tara Reid doesn't wash up here we'll be right.

Not to worry Brent, I'll take care of her for you. :tup
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Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2017, 07:23:53 AM: Good from afar but far from good. You can have 'er Kade ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 31, 2017, 09:48:59 AM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on March 31, 2017, 10:50:20 AM: She almost ruined Tom Brady.
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Post by: bosk1 on March 31, 2017, 12:37:19 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 29, 2017, 10:22:47 PM
We are supposed to get thunderstorms and a shitload of rain today, but Sydney always gets hit much harder than we do a bit further out west. But I'll stay inside today just to be safe. :blob:
Wow. So...we're discussing how Australia was Thunderstruck...in the "Classic Metal" discussion thread. What are the odds?
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 31, 2017, 02:29:36 PM: How much AC/DC have the Aussie boys heard in their lives?. I envision they are played constantly on the radio in Australia, just like Rush or the Tragically Hip are played non stop in Canada.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 31, 2017, 02:53:48 PM: New Inglorious track. certainly going for the Whitesnake vibe and a great vocal. Again, not the catchiest of songs, they lack some magic dust in the songwriting for me.

https://youtu.be/MHSu22a3etA
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Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2017, 03:36:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 31, 2017, 02:29:36 PM
How much AC/DC have the Aussie boys heard in their lives?. I envision they are played constantly on the radio in Australia, just like Rush or the Tragically Hip are played non stop in Canada.

Probably the reason I'm not a fan of them at all. Yeah, rock radio stations, they are a staple, every few hours it seems. overplayed to death.
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Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2017, 03:41:23 PM: New Dream Evil. Standard stuff, pretty much a rip of the Book of Heavy Metal, but I'm looking forward to the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRTv_ycvUVk
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Post by: TAC on March 31, 2017, 03:53:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 30, 2017, 07:41:26 PM
I just sampled a couple of tracks from the new Sinner on youtube and it's sounding really good. Definitely will pick that one up I think.

Only 3 songs on Spotify. I like it!
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Post by: TAC on March 31, 2017, 04:08:50 PM: Damn!

https://www.dw.com/en/australia-flooding-dont-go-in-the-water/a-38225080
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Post by: TAC on March 31, 2017, 08:30:37 PM: Anthrax covering Carry On My Wayward Son
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVD5iqAcIbQ

Pretty faithful. Could do without the keyboards. Joey is amazing on this. He sounds just like Steve Walsh.
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Post by: Podaar on April 01, 2017, 05:50:05 AM: He sounds somewhat like Walsh.

The keys are terrific.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 01, 2017, 07:49:55 AM: Joey has such an underrated voice, good cover. And Joey is getting more and more gigs singing the national anthem at sporting events. He does an outstanding job doing that
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Post by: TAC on April 01, 2017, 03:13:54 PM: Update in The DTF Croc Thread!
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2017, 04:57:02 AM: So it's been an interesting couple of days with these floods. I have been in this area for 28 years and have never seen anything like this. All around is flooded and lots of people losing their homes right in my very surrounding suburbs. Have lost power at one of my work stations and still don't have power and not expecting it for at least a couple of days. Causing a lot of lost work for my casual workers also which is a bit stressful for me. The water was even not far from my very home also. You can't get around much anywhere at the moment and people are losing their shit with the shops getting run dry. The cleanup and bill for this is going to be almost impossible to recover from. Lots of animals and cattle lost too which is awful to think about. Here's some pics;

This is the off street I live on. I live 3 houses up from this. There is not normally water there, it's a walkway and bush type area that normally is very low down. The water was rising but fortunately didn't spill over;

(https://s13.postimg.org/vsd6m3raf/20170401_083111_resized_1.jpg)

This area now 3 different images. You can see how high the water went up. Between the first and second picks it's about 18 hours, then it ramped up and that 3rd pick is about 6 hours later and was still going higher for another few hours from that time. The third pic I'm on the other side.

(https://s16.postimg.org/momt0bilx/20170331_140058_resized.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.org/ffkxsqqbl/20170401_082841_resized_1.jpg)

(https://s14.postimg.org/uhhvk200x/20170401_082417_resized.jpg)

This is the road where I work at. I'm standing in front of work and this is just down the road.

(https://s18.postimg.org/o6kr6fjsp/20170401_080228_resized.jpg)

This is just behind my work. It's normally a very small half a meter type lake that runs through.

(https://s23.postimg.org/do5c7em5n/20170402_080933_resized_1.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/rt4okpxnz/20170402_080924_resized_1.jpg)

We never expected this at all.
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Post by: TAC on April 02, 2017, 06:23:13 AM: Damn!

Don't go in the water!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 02, 2017, 07:51:42 AM: Sorry that you're going through that Kade

I hope nobody is injured at all

In the springtime there is usually some flooding in Winnipeg, but not to that extent
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Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2017, 12:50:25 PM: Jeez a bit of rain and you Aussies go to bits. Try living in the north west of England. That's a normal summer's day 😀
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2017, 08:06:47 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 02, 2017, 12:50:25 PM
Jeez a bit of rain and you Aussies go to bits. Try living in the north west of England. That's a normal summer's day 😀

haha, yeah we normally have it pretty good here, just we've never seen this one before. I think 5 people have died from this so far. :'(

Quote from: jjrock88 on April 02, 2017, 07:51:42 AM
Sorry that you're going through that Kade

I hope nobody is injured at all

In the springtime there is usually some flooding in Winnipeg, but not to that extent

Thanks man. Yeah, I'm not really affected at all which is great, but so many others have been devastated. Mother Nature is a cruel bitch sometimes.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 03, 2017, 01:07:59 PM: My town was flooded 18 months ago. The town had never known anything like it. We were without power for a few days. The kids thought it was great fun. Until the batteries ran out on their gadgets 😀

We're used to seeing forest fires down your way, not floods.
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Post by: TAC on April 05, 2017, 06:55:34 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/brave-history-april-5th-2017-alice-in-chains-cozy-powell-kiss-nirvana-judas-priest-pearl-jam-fair-warning-monstrosity-glen-drover-voivod-asking-alexandria-volbeat-and-more

Interesting. Layne Staley, Cozy Powell, Mark St. John, and Kurt Cobain all died on April 5th. And oddly, both Les Binks and Dave Holland were born on the same day (and year).
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 05, 2017, 07:27:30 PM: Thats unreal that both Layne and Kurt were on the same day
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Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2017, 07:32:10 PM: Les Blinks was so underrated. His work on Stained Class is stellar.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 05, 2017, 08:13:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
Les Blinks was so underrated. His work on Stained Class is stellar.

Priest went through a lot of different drummers in the 70's but Les appears to be the best of the bunch.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 06, 2017, 05:39:08 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 05, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
Les Blinks was so underrated. His work on Stained Class is stellar.

Priest went through a lot of different drummers in the 70's but Les appears to be the best of the bunch.

Les is more!
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Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2017, 06:29:56 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 06, 2017, 05:39:08 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on April 05, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
Les Blinks was so underrated. His work on Stained Class is stellar.

Priest went through a lot of different drummers in the 70's but Les appears to be the best of the bunch.

Les is more!

(https://img.memesuper.com/03ffbb342e32cb394feb1cba4cc150f6_37900128jpg-meme-obama-not-bad_400-400.jpeg)
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Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2017, 06:30:54 AM: (https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/theferrymenselftitledcd.jpg)

June 2nd

01. End Of The Road
02. Ferryman
03. Fool You All
04. Still Standing Up
05. Cry Wolf
06. One Heart
07. Darkest Hour
08. How The Story Ends
09. Enter Your Dream
10. Eyes On The Sky
11. Eternal Night
12. Welcome To My Show

This makes me as hard as Kip.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2017, 07:05:41 AM: No kidding... this is a killer trio. I didn't know Terrana by name, but seeing who's on his resume (Rage, ARP, Vision Divine, MacAlpine, and Masterplan), I'm even more excited about this one.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2017, 07:39:43 AM: There was an EPK a little while back for that. Sounded promising.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 06, 2017, 07:44:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 31, 2017, 07:23:53 AM
Good from afar but far from good.

aka DDF: Distance Distortion Factor
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2017, 10:53:30 AM: Jorn is back on June 2
Quote from: FB
Frontiers Music Srl is delighted to announce the release of JORN's brand new studio album, entitled “Life on Death Road” on June 2, 2017. Pre-order from the Frontiers' webstore here: www.frontiers.shop
Easily one of the greatest rock singers of the 21st century, Norway's very own giant Viking warrior Jorn Lande’s vocals are resoundingly strong once again on his ninth original studio album, “Life on Death Road”! This absolutely brilliant new album sees Lande attacking the microphone with rejuvenated vigor, accompanied by a new band and a bigger and stronger sound.
“Life On Death Road” took several months of hard work for the songwriting vision to come together. JORN needed to take the music to a new level to push the concept of the band further than it has ever gone before. The result is a record that is deep, strong, full of groove and powerful with anthemic songs aplenty! Songs like "Man Of The 80's", "Love Is The Remedy", "Life On Death Road", "Insoluble Maze (Dreams In The Blindness)", and "The Slippery Slope (Hangman's Rope)" capture the essence of Jorn as a singer, songwriter and lyricist.

The album also marks the debut of a new lineup of very experienced and gifted musicians around the Norwegian singer. On bass is Mat Sinner (Primal Fear, Sinner, kiskesomerville) who needs virtually no introduction to European heavy metal fanatics. On keyboards and production is Alessandro Del Vecchio (Hardline, Revolution Saints), who already joined JORN for the recording of his last covers album, “Heavy Rock Radio” and was the glue that helped Jorn to create the feel and the direction for the new album. Francesco Jovino (Primal Fear) is on drums and Alex Beyrodt (Primal Fear, VOODOO CIRCLE) handles guitar. Truly a recipe for a roaring success!

Jorn had no desire to do "just another" JORN record. The aim was to do the best record possible and it took almost two years of writing, arranging, and producing before wrapping this all up. The performances are thunderous across the board and you can hear the urgency of these songs in Jorn's singing!

I've been increasingly disappointed in his solo releases, so I'm not holding my breath over this one - though, the musical lineup is pretty solid.
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Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2017, 03:06:43 PM: Del Vicchio at it again. :lol

Basically most of Jorn's band now is Primal Fear haha. Hopefully it adds something fresh to his sound.
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Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2017, 03:08:33 PM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/primal-fear-to-release-angels-of-mercy-live-in-germany-cddvd-blu-ray/

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2017, 03:11:06 PM: :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2017, 03:59:15 PM: New Mark Slaughter track, promising a return to the early Slaughter sound. Track is ok but it reminds me of Steel Panther, which is weird. Without the cuss words of course :biggrin:

https://youtu.be/-b9IthjQM5Q

Looking forward to The Ferrymen, not so much the Jorn, which is a shame.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2017, 05:31:16 PM: How is Tim going to react with Slaughter news in this thread. I'm sure he puts them at blow level
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Post by: Big Hath on April 06, 2017, 05:34:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2017, 06:55:34 PM
Winger would be better!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2017, 05:50:37 PM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2017, 06:01:15 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 06, 2017, 03:59:15 PM
Looking forward to The Ferrymen, not so much the Jorn, which is a shame.

It's a shame that we aren't getting that excited over Jorn anymore, he was the shit quite a few years ago where everything he was touching just turned to gold.

I hope The Ferrymen is more on the heavier side too.
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Post by: TAC on April 06, 2017, 07:50:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 06, 2017, 03:59:15 PM
New Mark Slaughter track, promising a return to the early Slaughter sound.
Promising? Sounds like a threat to me.

Quote from: jjrock88 on April 06, 2017, 05:31:16 PM
How is Tim going to react with Slaughter news in this thread. I'm sure he puts them at blow level

;D
Pretty much. I honestly never even blinked an eye at them. That band had nothing to offer me.

Quote from: Big Hath on April 06, 2017, 05:34:35 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2017, 06:55:34 PM
Winger would be better!

Fake News!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2017, 10:21:16 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 06, 2017, 06:01:15 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 06, 2017, 03:59:15 PM
Looking forward to The Ferrymen, not so much the Jorn, which is a shame.

It's a shame that we aren't getting that excited over Jorn anymore, he was the shit quite a few years ago where everything he was touching just turned to gold.

I hope The Ferrymen is more on the heavier side too.

I don't think heaviness will be a problem judging from the EPK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDBAIBacVZk

I've never been excited over a Jorn release, even though I've always enjoyed his vocals. It just seems to be the same album cranked out over and over. I'm not too excited about the lineup change, but hopefully it at least results in something different for him.
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2017, 06:19:37 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2017, 10:21:16 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 06, 2017, 06:01:15 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 06, 2017, 03:59:15 PM
Looking forward to The Ferrymen, not so much the Jorn, which is a shame.

It's a shame that we aren't getting that excited over Jorn anymore, he was the shit quite a few years ago where everything he was touching just turned to gold.

I hope The Ferrymen is more on the heavier side too.

I don't think heaviness will be a problem judging from the EPK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDBAIBacVZk

I've never been excited over a Jorn release, even though I've always enjoyed his vocals. It just seems to be the same album cranked out over and over. I'm not too excited about the lineup change, but hopefully it at least results in something different for him.

Yeah, I enjoyed what I heard in that EPK, but sometimes it's hard to tell if it's a fair representation, but given the lineup, there shouldn't be any concerns.

You're right about the Jorn, and the lineup change is a typical Frontiers shoving the usual artists together, but it might produce with more energy and perhaps more melodic, than the usual plodder type material he's been putting out. Obviously Frontiers have perhaps listened to their customers in regards to Jorn's last few outings.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 07, 2017, 12:39:58 PM: It is The Plod that kills the Jorn albums. One paced, plodding stuff. Hopefully Alex Beyrodt brings some Whitesnake to the party from his day job.
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2017, 04:19:56 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 07, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
It is The Plod that kills the Jorn albums. One paced, plodding stuff. Hopefully Alex Beyrodt brings some Whitesnake to the party from his day job.

I'm pretty sure this is the reason for the drastic lineup changes. Might definitely get a more Whitesnake style with this lineup now on this one as Jorn thinks he is Coverdale. Could be quite interesting.
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Post by: TAC on April 09, 2017, 06:34:13 PM: I'll put this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ushMc3oof-c

It's Brian May from 1993. His band was awesome, included Cozy Powell and Neil Murray.

Did I mention Cozy Powell??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2017, 09:57:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 07, 2017, 04:19:56 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 07, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
It is The Plod that kills the Jorn albums. One paced, plodding stuff. Hopefully Alex Beyrodt brings some Whitesnake to the party from his day job.

I'm pretty sure this is the reason for the drastic lineup changes. Might definitely get a more Whitesnake style with this lineup now on this one as Jorn thinks he is Coverdale. Could be quite interesting.

He should have just joined Voodoo Circle dammit! :lol Shame they're not Frontiers though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 10, 2017, 02:25:25 AM: Jorn and Voodoo Circle would have been a perfect fit
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Post by: wolfking on April 10, 2017, 05:42:07 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2017, 09:57:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 07, 2017, 04:19:56 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 07, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
It is The Plod that kills the Jorn albums. One paced, plodding stuff. Hopefully Alex Beyrodt brings some Whitesnake to the party from his day job.

I'm pretty sure this is the reason for the drastic lineup changes. Might definitely get a more Whitesnake style with this lineup now on this one as Jorn thinks he is Coverdale. Could be quite interesting.

He should have just joined Voodoo Circle dammit! :lol Shame they're not Frontiers though.

Fuck, you're right, it's the same 4 same guys with Jorn on vox? WTF?! :rollin
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 10, 2017, 06:09:28 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 10, 2017, 05:42:07 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2017, 09:57:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 07, 2017, 04:19:56 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 07, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
It is The Plod that kills the Jorn albums. One paced, plodding stuff. Hopefully Alex Beyrodt brings some Whitesnake to the party from his day job.

I'm pretty sure this is the reason for the drastic lineup changes. Might definitely get a more Whitesnake style with this lineup now on this one as Jorn thinks he is Coverdale. Could be quite interesting.

He should have just joined Voodoo Circle dammit! :lol Shame they're not Frontiers though.

Fuck, you're right, it's the same 4 same guys with Jorn on vox? WTF?! :rollin

Holy shit........... I actually hadn't realized it literally is just Voodoo Circle. :rollin

I'm not kidding, I'm seriously excited for this now.
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Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2017, 04:28:19 PM: Yeah, I didn't realise until your comment and I wondered, "there's like 3 members of Voodoo Cricle in this." Then I googled it and was like, "oh wait.' :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2017, 05:36:53 AM: So, Satriani's new G4 tour consists of Paul Gilbert, Warren DeMartini, and.......um......Phil Collen?!? WTF? Am I missing something? Brent? Does he have a Macalpine like solo albums that I've just never heard about??
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Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2017, 05:45:12 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2017, 05:36:53 AM
So, Satriani's new G4 tour consists of Paul Gilbert, Warren DeMartini, and.......um......Phil Collen?!? WTF? Am I missing something? Brent? Does he have a Macalpine like solo albums that I've just never heard about??

Weird - even DeMartini is more of a vocal song player .........not sure he's going to cut it in extended improv/instrumental. I even found that Petrucci struggled to keep up with Vai and Satch when I saw G3.

Phil Collen............well everyone will be so dazzled by his pecs that they might not notice.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2017, 06:04:51 AM: Just checked it out Kade and it's not a tour - it's a 5 day guitar camp/experience which makes a bit more sense. I'm sure we could think of some better players but in that sort of thing having some different input from guys like Collen and DeMartini could be cool.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 12, 2017, 08:05:01 AM: I don't think I've ever seen a picture of Phil Collen wearing a shirt
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Post by: TAC on April 12, 2017, 08:07:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 12, 2017, 05:45:12 AM

Phil Collen............well everyone will be so dazzled by his pecs that they might not notice.

:lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2017, 05:06:27 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 12, 2017, 06:04:51 AM
Just checked it out Kade and it's not a tour - it's a 5 day guitar camp/experience which makes a bit more sense. I'm sure we could think of some better players but in that sort of thing having some different input from guys like Collen and DeMartini could be cool.

Ah, should have read it properly. Probably getting these guys for different angels and insights I guess. Was just floored when I saw Phil I was shocked I couldn't read on haha. He does have an amazing body for his age. I'd actually go there and when he says "alright let me show you something...." I'd stop him and go, "Just tell me about your diet and training and then I'll show you something!"
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 12, 2017, 05:56:08 PM: A guitar/pec contest between Kade and Phil would be interesting.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2017, 05:57:42 PM: Hopefully Kade was talking about his pecs.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2017, 05:58:03 PM: (https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Shut-Up-And-Take-My-Money-Fry.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 12, 2017, 06:43:21 PM: :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 12, 2017, 06:48:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 12, 2017, 05:57:42 PM
Hopefully Kade was talking about his pecs.

You asked for pics now go look at them or else. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2017, 03:04:24 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2017, 05:06:27 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 12, 2017, 06:04:51 AM
Just checked it out Kade and it's not a tour - it's a 5 day guitar camp/experience which makes a bit more sense. I'm sure we could think of some better players but in that sort of thing having some different input from guys like Collen and DeMartini could be cool.

Ah, should have read it properly. Probably getting these guys for different angels and insights I guess. Was just floored when I saw Phil I was shocked I couldn't read on haha. He does have an amazing body for his age. I'd actually go there and when he says "alright let me show you something...." I'd stop him and go, "Just tell me about your diet and training and then I'll show you something!"

That whole paragraph is very dodgy Kade 😀🤔

I saw the poster last night and thought it was a tour. Couldn't see either of them mixing it with Satch or PG. I like WDM as a player but I can't see him doing the instrumental thing. I watched a video of his time in Whitesnake and he couldn't handle Sykes' solos.
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2017, 05:50:00 AM: Oh you dirty little boys! ;D

But yeah reading back, my wording might have been a bit off. :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2017, 05:53:05 AM: New song from Henjo Richter's new band;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHm8OIUrmpQ

Really good actually, but I don't know who the other guitarist is and why Henjo lets him do the fucking solo!!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2017, 05:58:33 AM: Not familiar with him or the band. Decent song, but the note choice in the main riff is off to me. It's the exact same chords that make me dislike the riff to My Apocalypse by Metallica too. WHY ARE YOU USING THE MAJOR 6TH? ARGHARGRRAHARGHRA
Other than that, I enjoyed it.
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2017, 04:14:53 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2017, 05:58:33 AM
Not familiar with him or the band. Decent song, but the note choice in the main riff is off to me. It's the exact same chords that make me dislike the riff to My Apocalypse by Metallica too. WHY ARE YOU USING THE MAJOR 6TH? ARGHARGRRAHARGHRA
Other than that, I enjoyed it.

Henjo is the guitarist from Gamma Ray.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2017, 04:22:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 13, 2017, 05:53:05 AM
New song from Henjo Richter's new band;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHm8OIUrmpQ

Really good actually, but I don't know who the other guitarist is and why Henjo lets him do the fucking solo!!

I think it's "solid"
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2017, 06:31:12 PM: :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2017, 07:21:29 PM: I've been on a bit of a Skid Row kick lately. It's too bad this bad imploded and couldn't stick together for at least artistic reasons because their Bach albums kick major ass and they should not be lumped with the Poisons and Warrants beyond parts of their first album. Even the debut had some ass kickers like Piece of Me and Midnight Tornado.

And I think Skid Row really excelled with their power ballads. They were still aggressive enough where they never came close to wussy level. "18 & Life", "Breakin Down", "Wasted Time", "Into Another" and the best of them all- "Quicksand Jesus"

And their second album, Slave to the Grind, is what really seperates them from the hair metal pack. There is nothing hair metal about this one, just a pure kick ass heavy metal album! One of my all time favorites.

And remember hearing Thickskin when it came out and thinking it was such an astronomical downgrade. I didn't care for Johnnys vocals as its too punky and I ended up tossing it. Didn't like anything else I heard from the Johnny era.

But this has to be the definition of a band that doesn't listen to their fans. Why they just don't let bye gones be bye gones and just bring Bach back. I would love to hear what one or two Bach fronted albums sound like. That new singer sounds good, but who cares that much at this point
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2017, 07:32:15 PM: Good stuff JJ - can't argue with any of that.

Believe it or not I have still never listened to Subhuman Race. I was so peeved by a number of my favourite bands "going grunge" or at least drastically altering their sound to change with the times that I didn't want to risk Skid Row doing the same to me , so I just ignored it ;D
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2017, 07:34:12 PM: Believe it or not, I have never listened to a single Skid Row album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2017, 07:34:57 PM: Give it a shot Brent. It's heavy and might be a bit modern for 95, but definitely not grungy. Trust me, they didn't follow Dokken and that Shadowlife horse shit.

What do you rate the first two albums?
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2017, 07:36:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 13, 2017, 07:34:12 PM
Believe it or not, I have never listened to a single Skid Row album.

Whoa!

Tim seriously I'm vouching that Slave to the Grind is one of the best metal albums ever. I will buy it for you if you want!
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2017, 07:38:49 PM: :lol

I know. I've heard that many times. I just have never gotten around to sample it. I think I heard a track or two when it was released, and I thought it was pretty good. But it never enticed me to check out the album. probably too much other stuff going on at the time.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2017, 07:42:52 PM: I love the one-two punch of Riot Act and Mudkicker
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2017, 08:50:58 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 13, 2017, 07:34:57 PM
Give it a shot Brent. It's heavy and might be a bit modern for 95, but definitely not grungy. Trust me, they didn't follow Dokken and that Shadowlife horse shit.

What do you rate the first two albums?

Never rated them as such Jay. If I did I think I may rate the debut higher mostly due to consistency- there's nothing bad on it IMO. Slave quite possibly has higher highs and lower lows which would likely mean a lower score as there are a couple that I would class as filler. Both 90%+ albums though I would say.

Back in the days of doing my DTF Top 50 I chose the debut so I suppose that is an indication , after I had put some thought into it .
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2017, 09:00:35 PM: s/t and STTG are an unbelievable 1-2 punch for debut and sophomore albums. S/T was #10 I think (maybe 11) on my Top 50. I remember being shocked all to hell at the heaviness of STTG, but eventually coming to love it. Subhuman Race... meh. Never followed another thing after that.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2017, 09:54:55 PM: Those first two Skid Row albums kick ass. I just wish the first album had better production. If it had the production of STTG, I'd listen to it a lot more. Both consistently great albums though.

I was going to say solid, but that word has been sullied the past page or so. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2017, 10:51:09 PM: I am hoping that I can coax Mr Ben into the "studio" to add his dulcet tones to the latest show over the Easter weekend and we should have something for you in the next week.

I am listening to the bare bones of the show right now and I'm reasonably confident that it'll go down pretty well. A bit too much glammy rock for some but no doubt others will lap it up. There's certainly a fair dose of metal too though.

As I have said before the focus is on exposing you to the better rarities of the 80's and 90's in the melodic hard rock space........I have included stuff from the harder edges of AOR through to the more melodic end of metal. I have littered the show with some of the bigger bands too (all in alphabetical order) to add to the retro feel of the show for those of you who many not know any of the rarities. Hopefully it'll bring back some memories for most. By definition the average quality isn't going to be quite as good as a show featuring all the big names but there are plenty of "shoulda been big" bands in there that were very unlucky. And that means plenty from that 91-94 period.

The new show will cover bands starting with #, A and B - to make things easier for me where a solo artist is involved I have just indexed using their first name.

There's also a nice little rarity of a live show at the end that Ben has added for you all.

Download available soon........

PS Each band gets their own special intro so it's TAC friendly :neverusethis:
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 14, 2017, 05:19:05 AM: Giggity. Mrs.Jingle is going away next week, so I'll have all the free time in the world - including taking the dogs out for walks solo with just my headphones - so this will be great.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 14, 2017, 07:46:13 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 14, 2017, 05:19:05 AM
Giggity. Mrs.Jingle is going away next week, so I'll have all the free time in the world - including taking the dogs out for walks solo with just my headphones - so this will be great.

You can also crank Harem Scarem and Hardline as loud as you want in your house while eating pizza in your underwear!
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Post by: bosk1 on April 14, 2017, 07:53:41 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 13, 2017, 07:42:52 PM
I love the one-two punch of Riot Act and Mudkicker
Mudkicker SLAYS.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 14, 2017, 12:00:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 14, 2017, 07:46:13 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on April 14, 2017, 05:19:05 AM
Giggity. Mrs.Jingle is going away next week, so I'll have all the free time in the world - including taking the dogs out for walks solo with just my headphones - so this will be great.

You can also crank Harem Scarem and Hardline as loud as you want in your house while eating pizza in your underwear!

Only if you come over to join me. :rollin

:umno:
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Post by: TAC on April 14, 2017, 01:38:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 13, 2017, 10:51:09 PM
PS Each band gets their own special intro so it's TAC friendly :neverusethis:

;D

That's what they call a "reasonable accommodation".
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Post by: Lowdz on April 14, 2017, 04:19:31 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2017, 09:54:55 PM
Those first two Skid Row albums kick ass. I just wish the first album had better production. If it had the production of STTG, I'd listen to it a lot more. Both consistently great albums though.

I was going to say solid, but that word has been sullied the past page or so. :lol

Liked the debut, but didn't rate STTG, other than a couple of songs.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 14, 2017, 04:21:43 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 14, 2017, 04:19:31 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2017, 09:54:55 PM
Those first two Skid Row albums kick ass. I just wish the first album had better production. If it had the production of STTG, I'd listen to it a lot more. Both consistently great albums though.

I was going to say solid, but that word has been sullied the past page or so. :lol

Liked the debut, but didn't rate STTG, other than a couple of songs.

Have you only heard a couple of songs from it Paul?
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Post by: TAC on April 14, 2017, 04:23:00 PM: :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 14, 2017, 04:24:25 PM: Both Paul and Tim need to get together for a Skid Row listening party
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Post by: TAC on April 14, 2017, 06:47:40 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 13, 2017, 10:51:09 PM
I am hoping that I can coax Mr Ben into the "studio"

Speaking of Master Ben, I had to laugh when I heard the beginning of this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apQzRibHbQc
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Post by: Lowdz on April 15, 2017, 02:18:23 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 14, 2017, 04:24:25 PM
Both Paul and Tim need to get together for a Skid Row listening party

I've heard it all, just prefer the debut. I didn't get it back in the day because the style of the STTG single put me off. I think Sebastian 's personality put me off too, like with Axl.
When I did get it years later I did like some of it.
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Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2017, 03:43:00 AM: Giddy up boys!!

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/accept-to-release-the-rise-of-chaos-album-in-august/

:metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 16, 2017, 05:39:57 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 16, 2017, 06:10:40 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 16, 2017, 03:43:00 AM
Giddy up boys!!

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/accept-to-release-the-rise-of-chaos-album-in-august/

:metal

Cool and the gang.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 17, 2017, 09:18:43 AM: The live show at Wacken sounds entertaining. Hopefully another bluray.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 18, 2017, 04:22:54 AM: Trailer for Jorn's album - https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/videos/1364301183625929/

I am cautiously optimistic.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 18, 2017, 04:29:48 AM: Hard to judge too much from such short snippets at crap compression quality, but I very much liked everything I was hearing. The production sounds rockin' too. Colour me excited.
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Post by: wolfking on April 18, 2017, 05:02:11 AM: Man, those snippits were so short but it's already sounding like the plod is long gone. Bring it on.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 18, 2017, 05:55:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 18, 2017, 05:02:11 AM
Man, those snippits were so short but it's already sounding like the plod is long gone. Bring it on.

Exactly. Color me "not-meh"
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 05:23:20 AM: Get this into ya!!

The Ferrymen (Magnus Karlsson) - End of the Road video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY9M3x42ADg

Fucking good!! Magnus bringing the balls and heaviness that is much needed that we have been missing lately. Reminds me a lot of Last Tribe actually, but darker, espcially in the solo section.

You can hear who has been the mastermind behind the last couple of Primal Fear albums too.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 19, 2017, 05:49:19 AM: It was ok. The drums were distractingly sloppy to me though.
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 05:56:57 AM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 19, 2017, 05:49:19 AM
It was ok. The drums were distractingly sloppy to me though.

Why does this comment not shock me? I love Terrana's drumming! :lol

After listening to it 3 times, I love it. Wasn't that big on Lords of Black, but Ronnie is killing it here.
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 05:57:51 AM: I've managed to listen to a few new releases that have slipped by this week and will have some honest thoughts in the coming days.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 06:01:42 AM: I'm not sure why Terrana feels the need to do 80's drumstick tricks at this point but eh...........whatever :lol

I would say I like the song but wouldn't rave. The riffing and chorus is pretty generic stuff - the solo section was a step up. I don't feel that the song has the "personality" of any of the best Allen/Lande material but it's promising enough to keep my interest. Like almost everything these days I am struggling to find much about it that I haven't heard a million times before.
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 06:07:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 06:01:42 AM
I'm not sure why Terrana feels the need to do 80's drumstick tricks at this point but eh...........whatever :lol

I would say I like the song but wouldn't rave. The riffing and chorus is pretty generic stuff - the solo section was a step up. I don't feel that the song has the "personality" of any of the best Allen/Lande material but it's promising enough to keep my interest. Like almost everything these days I am struggling to find much about it that I haven't heard a million times before.

Thought that about Terrana too. He loves it. :lol

I guess it's the Magnus fanboy coming out in me, but I like the darker and heavier vibe to it. The solo section is definitely amazing too.

I think if you expect Allen/Lande quality from him these days Brent you're always going to be disappointed. Magnus has slipped into the somewhat generic writing style over the years to churn out tunes, but definitely not as much as most of the others, and even his rehashed stuff is better than most, but I'm definitely looking forward to this one.

Your last sentence is something I exactly thought when checking out these new releases too but I'll get into that later. It's feeling like a dead end these days but this project has the guitar work, edge and heaviness to hopefully be a winner.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 19, 2017, 06:52:25 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 06:01:42 AM
I'm not sure why Terrana feels the need to do 80's drumstick tricks at this point but eh...........whatever :lol

I would say I like the song but wouldn't rave. The riffing and chorus is pretty generic stuff - the solo section was a step up. I don't feel that the song has the "personality" of any of the best Allen/Lande material but it's promising enough to keep my interest. Like almost everything these days I am struggling to find much about it that I haven't heard a million times before.

I wasn't wowed by this one - and I've been excited for it. Pretty generic Magnus stuff. Agreed about the solo section though I didn't think the widdley bit after the slow bit fit very well. Still, I've only listened The once.

Getting excited for DT in Manchester tonight 😀🤘🎸🎹😀
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 19, 2017, 07:05:52 AM: Have a great time tonight Paul!! :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 19, 2017, 07:27:13 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 19, 2017, 07:05:52 AM
Have a great time tonight Paul!! :metal

Yeah ... Lucky bastard!

Re Ferrymen... It was pretty good. I'm with Paul/Brent in that I wasnt wow'd, buy I'm definitely still eagerly anticipating this.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 19, 2017, 07:41:08 AM: Hopefully there is still a chance that Magnus gets involved in the upcoming Allen/Lande release, whenever that will be.
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 06:40:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 19, 2017, 07:41:08 AM
Hopefully there is still a chance that Magnus gets involved in the upcoming Allen/Lande release, whenever that will be.

Fingers crossed mate.
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 07:04:40 PM: Have caught up with a few new releases that I have been interested in checking out. Years ago, these would probably be instant buys, but times change and to be honest, I'm not seeing much point in shelling out for cd's anymore that I'm not going to love and have on repeat, and these days, that doesn't happen much anymore. Money obviously becomes more of a priority as you get older too. Anywho.....

Place Vendome - I loved the first three albums. Each one was different and worthwhile, even though the debut is better than the second two put together. This one was okay but has the standard Frontiers generic affair feel to it. I can see what Tim is saying regarding Kiske. He sounds weird in places and some of these songs don't really fit his voice. It does sound like he doesn't give a shit either. Some great guitar work obviously when you see who's involved but overall it just feels so thrown together and manufactured. There is some good songs here though but I find the ballads pretty crap. I'll give it some spins though cause it is Kiske and obviously other favs involved (Hansen, Karlsson) and see how it goes.

Sinner - This isn't bad. Mat really loves his Thin Lizzy. Some great melodies and excellent guitar work too. Probably too many songs though as my attention drifted towards the end. Nothing new and even though it's pretty decent, there is nothing here that would probably make me come back to it much.

Blaze Bayley - Now this is surprisingly really good. Blaze is a real fighter and is always honest with what he does but his lack of support and budget has hurt him over time with his output. The last one was some solid metal but the mix was awful with Blaze's vocals too loud and the whole thing sounded quite cheap which was a shame, but this one is much more balanced and the songs are really enjoyable. No nonsense heavy metal and Blaze sounds good here and the production and mix is simple but really nice. It's not overly bloated with filler either and Blaze knows what he is capable of and puts out a great record. It's still no match on his first two albums, but what is? This might be something that I would keep coming back to, I really liked it.

House of Lords - Ehh.....I only made through three quarters of this one. Too fucking soft and generic. I really liked the last album as it had some balls but this one, granted I didn't listen to the whole thing, just did nothing for me. The band sounds neutered here. Nothing new here and nothing making me want to listen to it again, and it just sounds so watered down.

Eclipse - Saved this one for last. I'm starting to really think that Martensson is taking the piss now. Every project he's done has become more of the same simple, generic, rehashed and recycled junk over and over. Every intro, every chorus, every guitar melody, has just all been done over and over. Does he have absolutely nothing different to offer up? The last one was the same but at least it had good choruses, this one doesn't, or I just don't give a shit. I loved this band with Are You Ready to Rock and Bleed and Scream and first WET and the Toby Hitchcock are two of the best melodic rock albums out there and to see him run out of ideas and come up with this to me, is just insulting. Sorry Erik, can't give you any of my money, You are robbing everyone blind here.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 07:07:53 PM: And yet I have barely managed to find a review on the Eclipse that isn't a 10/10. :-\
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 07:23:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 07:07:53 PM
And yet I have barely managed to find a review on the Eclipse that isn't a 10/10. :-\

Fuckin' serious? I don't even want to look. I listened to it three times too to make sure.

With albums like this being released, I'm seriously just thinking to myself while listening, "What's the point?" Seriously, what's the point? DO bands not want to challenge themselves anymore or try something different? Or has it become just a job where it's the same thing wrapped up and spewed out again and again.

I'm losing faith in a lot of these bands, and I'm not sure what can save me.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 07:32:36 PM: When you look at it from someone like Martensson's point of view (or even Magnus as well) - when someone like Frontiers are willing to pay you well for product (and to contribute to other projects , thus further diluting your output) and it's doing decent numbers and getting 100% ratings all over the place , where is the motivation to take your time and produce something that isn't more of the same?

Without labels like Frontiers the whole scene would likely be dead as far as new product goes , but their business model of churning out so much product isn't conducive to albums with any wow factor or staying power. Most of the better artists are diluting themselves all over the place and spend most of their lives touring too , which doesn't help .
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 07:40:12 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 07:32:36 PM
When you look at it from someone like Martensson's point of view (or even Magnus as well) - when someone like Frontiers are willing to pay you well for product (and to contribute to other projects , thus further diluting your output) and it's doing decent numbers and getting 100% ratings all over the place , where is the motivation to take your time and produce something that isn't more of the same?

Without labels like Frontiers the whole scene would likely be dead as far as new product goes , but their business model of churning out so much product isn't conducive to albums with any wow factor or staying power. Most of the better artists are diluting themselves all over the place and spend most of their lives touring too , which doesn't help .

Yeah, I get all that, but it's just a shame that people can't wake up and say that something maybe be too generic and not worth while. Looking at some reviews now, you can see them turning it on. I guess they would be in on it too. Sites giving stuff honest reviews obviously would be bad for sales so the more as time goes on, the more this genre is getting as bad as the mainstream pop world if you ask me.

One site says album of the year?! WTF?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 07:42:30 PM: I totally agree - just playing devil's advocate. As a musician I would struggle to play all those songs that sound the bloody same without being bored as hell. I would probably struggle to remember which song is which :lol But this is coming from the guy that took 4 years to produce a 5 track EP back in the day ;D ::)
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 08:01:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 07:42:30 PM
I totally agree - just playing devil's advocate. As a musician I would struggle to play all those songs that sound the bloody same without being bored as hell. I would probably struggle to remember which song is which :lol But this is coming from the guy that took 4 years to produce a 5 track EP back in the day ;D ::)

But that's what I think I'd like to see. I think I'd rather see bands do for example a Metallica and take 5+ to put out a new album if it's filled with quality and some creativity. If you can hear the effort and the band doing something that they've put a lot of work into, it would make it much more enjoyable, for me anyway.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 08:06:47 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 08:01:20 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 07:42:30 PM
I totally agree - just playing devil's advocate. As a musician I would struggle to play all those songs that sound the bloody same without being bored as hell. I would probably struggle to remember which song is which :lol But this is coming from the guy that took 4 years to produce a 5 track EP back in the day ;D ::)

But that's what I think I'd like to see. I think I'd rather see bands do for example a Metallica and take 5+ to put out a new album if it's filled with quality and some creativity. If you can hear the effort and the band doing something that they've put a lot of work into, it would make it much more enjoyable, for me anyway.

For sure - but I am guessing that guys like Erik and Magnus don't make enough from touring to do that. In Metallica's case they have the capital behind them to take 5 years and these days make far more from touring than albums sales. At the tiny end I am guessing that they need all these small advances and writing credits from multiple projects to keep the ball rolling. Musically I would imagine that they'd be far more satisfied if they were able to take their time a bit more.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 08:41:07 PM: btw Kade , just got word that Kreator are touring. Brissie date is Sept 10th at "The Zoo"
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Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 11:31:52 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 08:06:47 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 19, 2017, 08:01:20 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 07:42:30 PM
I totally agree - just playing devil's advocate. As a musician I would struggle to play all those songs that sound the bloody same without being bored as hell. I would probably struggle to remember which song is which :lol But this is coming from the guy that took 4 years to produce a 5 track EP back in the day ;D ::)

But that's what I think I'd like to see. I think I'd rather see bands do for example a Metallica and take 5+ to put out a new album if it's filled with quality and some creativity. If you can hear the effort and the band doing something that they've put a lot of work into, it would make it much more enjoyable, for me anyway.

For sure - but I am guessing that guys like Erik and Magnus don't make enough from touring to do that. In Metallica's case they have the capital behind them to take 5 years and these days make far more from touring than albums sales. At the tiny end I am guessing that they need all these small advances and writing credits from multiple projects to keep the ball rolling. Musically I would imagine that they'd be far more satisfied if they were able to take their time a bit more.

Good points mate.

Quote from: bl5150 on April 19, 2017, 08:41:07 PM
btw Kade , just got word that Kreator are touring. Brissie date is Sept 10th at "The Zoo"

Hmm....I'm not a massive fan but the new album is killer, might be worth it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 20, 2017, 07:49:51 AM: Anyone check this one out yet? I haven't heard anything from their back catalog, so I have nothing to compare against. I enjoyed it plenty on 1st spin last night

(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/6/3/3/4/633420.jpg?5531)

Pretty straight forward metal... 11 tracks; 43 minutes. Musically, it kinda gave me a Pretty Maids vibe.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 20, 2017, 07:56:59 AM: Never heard of them. Unless it's from Frontiers, or has been posted in this thread or the melodic rock one, it's probably slipped under the radar.
Checked out the single Undead on Youtube, not bad at all.
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Post by: Bolsters on April 20, 2017, 08:47:17 AM: It is on Spotify, therefore I shall listen to it tomorrow.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 20, 2017, 01:47:03 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 20, 2017, 07:56:59 AM
Never heard of them. Unless it's from Frontiers, or has been posted in this thread or the melodic rock one, it's probably slipped under the radar.
Checked out the single Undead on Youtube, not bad at all.

I'm not saying it was bad, but it was the worst from the album (imo).
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Post by: TAC on April 20, 2017, 03:59:25 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 20, 2017, 07:49:51 AM
Anyone check this one out yet? I haven't heard anything from their back catalog, so I have nothing to compare against. I enjoyed it plenty on 1st spin last night

Quote from: TAC on April 08, 2017, 07:59:47 PM
(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/52274849?wid=520&hei=520&fmt=pjpeg)

Enjoyed in on 1st listen. That was last week. Actually don't remember what I heard. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2017, 06:33:32 PM: Hmmm.....just listened to the song Undead and I thought it was pretty crap. Horrid lyrics.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 20, 2017, 07:22:44 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 20, 2017, 06:33:32 PM
Hmmm.....just listened to the song Undead and I thought it was pretty crap. Horrid lyrics.

I would say that I was unimpressed when they released that as a single, but the rest of the album was MUCH better.
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Post by: TAC on April 20, 2017, 07:24:57 PM: I don't remember what I heard sucking.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 20, 2017, 07:26:11 PM: Sure it wasn't Mrs. TAC?
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Post by: TAC on April 20, 2017, 07:27:26 PM: Nope. THAT I would remember! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2017, 09:50:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 20, 2017, 07:24:57 PM
I don't remember what I heard sucking.

The song was Undead, terrible IMO.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2017, 10:24:49 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 20, 2017, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 20, 2017, 07:24:57 PM
I don't remember what I heard sucking.

The song was Undead, terrible IMO.

I sampled one track (can't remember which) and didn't take it any further. Might revisit.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 21, 2017, 12:01:51 AM: I didn't like it either.

Lets get back to the classic metal boys
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 21, 2017, 07:53:41 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 21, 2017, 12:01:51 AM
I didn't like it either.

Lets get back to the classic metal boys

Fine, I'll go away before you taunt me another time. You go listen to your Megadeth's, and your Anthrax's, and your Testament's ... I'll go head over to the Modern Prog/Metal thread where all the cool kids hang out.

And by "all", I mean "none of".
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 21, 2017, 08:54:58 AM: :lol

Chad please stay!
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Post by: ozzy554 on April 21, 2017, 11:35:51 AM: New Danzig song is out and my god the production is AWFUL. It sounds like they accidentally released the demo.
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Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2017, 04:18:23 AM: Just wanted to post this. It's an excerpt from an interview I just read from Soilwork's Bjorn Strid. Lately myself and a few others have brought up the topic of not finding new music blowing our socks off, and a lot of us just happy to listen to so much new stuff and see what's next. I thought it might have been me or something that was changing inside of me as I get older or as priorities change, but then I read this;

On whether he would get tired of playing melodic death metal in SOILWORK if he didn't have his classic rock-oriented THE NIGHT FLIGHT ORCHESTRA side project:

Björn: "If it wouldn't be that, it would be something else. I'm a metalhead, but I'm also a rocker, so I'm 50/50. I think it's really good for me. Plus, I think I've developed a lot as a singer through that band and I've brought it with me to SOILWORK as well. But no, I can get sick of the metal scene sometimes because I don't really find that many new bands that have something unique to say, but then again, sometimes you run across some bands and you're like, 'Wow, this is amazing!' I don't want to be cynical about it at all. I'm just having a hard time finding interesting stuff, but when I do, I promote the hell out of it for sure. I still really enjoy performing and writing melodic death metal. It's fun because…we can still evolve as a band. We keep doing that and I think we still have so much to say."

Wow, rings so true. Not a big deal but sort of gave me some peace of mind on how a lot of us have been feeling over the last year or two.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 25, 2017, 08:36:35 AM: So this weekend marks another year of the M3 festival for me (lineup posted in that thread), and the band opening the show on Friday is a band from NYC called Station. They're in a similar vein to the 80's hard rock vibe of the festival, so I thought I'd mention them for you guys to check out and see if they're of any interest to you. Here's their YouTube page, where they've got several "official music videos" to check out. I'm digging the hell out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO0NakTczwicSjJtG84mkmg
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Post by: Podaar on April 25, 2017, 08:52:24 AM: Pretty fun tunes, Coz.

On the "Dressed to Kill" video, she should have brought him a sammich at the end!
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 25, 2017, 09:08:33 AM: :lol
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Post by: Samsara on April 25, 2017, 09:17:10 AM: Saw Fifth Angel over the weekend up in Seattle. Great gig.

Seven Hours -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBqedFxjx18

The singer of Fifth Angel is Peter Orullian, who is writing the novel adaption of The Astonishing.
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Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2017, 09:50:48 AM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on April 25, 2017, 09:17:10 AM
The singer of Fifth Angel is Peter Orullian, who is writing the novel adaption of The Astonishing.

I keep forgetting about that connection! Did he drop any nuggets or news you can share?
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 25, 2017, 11:27:17 AM: Quote from: AnybodyListening.net on April 25, 2017, 09:17:10 AM
Saw Fifth Angel over the weekend up in Seattle. Great gig.

Seven Hours -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBqedFxjx18

The singer of Fifth Angel is Peter Orullian, who is writing the novel adaption of The Astonishing.

Brian, was this just a one off show or are they touring more? And studio news?
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Post by: Samsara on April 25, 2017, 01:35:50 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on April 25, 2017, 09:50:48 AM

I keep forgetting about that connection! Did he drop any nuggets or news you can share?

I asked how it was going, but didn't want to pry too much. It was after a rehearsal (a damn good one), and were relaxing a bit, talking about other things. But sounds like it is coming along nicely. Like all of us, he's a Dream Theater fan, so he's obviously going to make sure it is done right. :)

Quote from: jjrock88 on April 25, 2017, 11:27:17 AM

Brian, was this just a one off show or are they touring more? And studio news?

They are playing the Keep it True Festival in Germany this coming weekend. The Seattle gig was a warm up. No plans yet for future dates. Fifth Angel is a band, but everyone has jobs. Fifth Angel isn't really their sole "gig," as it were. But they have a mountain of material for a new record. They did back in 2010 as well. And Peter is no slouch, lyric-wise, obviously. So I guess it'll just be on them to figure out how to prioritize new tunes.

It was pretty awesome on Saturday though. Original singer Ted Pilot was in the audience and hung out afterward to see the band, and take pics with folks. It was really a nice circular moment. Ted's always given his blessing for Fifth Angel to move on, so to have him come down and root them on was pretty special.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 25, 2017, 01:48:04 PM: Nita Strauss' new band. Is it just me or does it sound like everyone is playing a different song? Managed about 30 seconds.

https://youtu.be/D-0brh0DuJY
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Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2017, 06:54:16 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 25, 2017, 01:48:04 PM
Nita Strauss' new band. Is it just me or does it sound like everyone is playing a different song? Managed about 30 seconds.

https://youtu.be/D-0brh0DuJY

NEXT!!!!!

Seriously, We Start Wars?? :rollin
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Post by: Big Hath on April 26, 2017, 02:33:28 PM: I'm interested to hear what you guys think are the best books out there related to this genre (or any genre really). Band bios, former member tell-alls, overviews of metal/rock/other genres as a whole, autobiographies, etc.

What are some of the best you've read?
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Post by: TAC on April 26, 2017, 02:39:38 PM: The best rock star auto bio I've ever read was Duff McKagen's first book, It's So Easy (and Other Lies). Amazing.
The worst was probably Ace Frehley's No Regrets.

Although I'm a huge Alice Cooper fan, his Golf Monster is excellent.
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Post by: Podaar on April 26, 2017, 02:43:00 PM: I've generally enjoyed Martin Popoff's rock and metal books. Their not, strictly speaking, biographies though. Kinda

https://www.martinpopoff.com/html/welcome.html
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Post by: TAC on April 26, 2017, 02:44:58 PM: Quote from: Podaar on April 26, 2017, 02:43:00 PM
I've generally enjoyed Martin Popoff's rock and metal books. Their not, strictly speaking, biographies though. Kinda

https://www.martinpopoff.com/html/welcome.html

Going to assume you have the UFO one!
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Post by: Podaar on April 26, 2017, 03:08:09 PM: Actually, TAC, I don't. :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 26, 2017, 03:10:27 PM: I actually own the UFO one, but I generally get my books from the library. A shame his books aren't in my library network.

I haven't been on Poppoff's site in quite a while, but I found his books too expensive to buy outright.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on April 26, 2017, 03:18:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 26, 2017, 02:39:38 PM
The worst was probably Ace Frehley's No Regrets.
I would assume it's tough to write a good autobiography when you can't remember 90% what you experienced. I remember him saying he needed "help" from a lot of other people to "remember" things.
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Post by: TAC on April 26, 2017, 03:24:38 PM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on April 26, 2017, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 26, 2017, 02:39:38 PM
The worst was probably Ace Frehley's No Regrets.
I would assume it's tough to write a good autobiography when you can't remember 90% what you experienced. I remember him saying he needed "help" from a lot of other people to "remember" things.

I think what makes an autobiography effective is that, although they all use authors to help them write, you can basically feel the artist's "voice" telling the story. Reading the Ace book, the way it's written, you're thinking there is no way this is Ace speaking.
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Post by: TAC on April 26, 2017, 07:46:50 PM: Quote from: Podaar on April 26, 2017, 03:08:09 PM
Actually, TAC, I don't. :lol

I'm happy to send it out to you if you would like to read it.
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Post by: Imaginos on April 26, 2017, 10:08:31 PM: I really enjoyed Aerosmith's Walk this Way book, and I just finished reading The Replacements' bio, Trouble Boys, which was fantastic. Granted I'm a big fan of both bands, but I think the story of both bands is pretty interesting regardless.

Anyone know if Scott Ian's book is any good? I've been wanting to read it for a while and I figure it would be pretty good, but I guess it could suck or something.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2017, 07:57:20 AM: Alice Cooper is touring OZ in October (with Ace Frehley as support) but $170+ :-\

Hate to think what the various levels of VIP packages were setting people back - all gone already prior to tix on sale so it seems you needed to know someone (EDIT : presale was only open to Velocity Frequent Flyer members ::) )
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 27, 2017, 11:48:55 AM: My buddy bought a Alice Cooper VIP package a few years back and he said he paid $500. This included a ticket and 10 minutes of one on one time with Alice and you could get anything signed. He said he was so nervous he just smiled and stammered for the entire time and Alice had to prompt him to say anything. My buddy said it was completely worth it.

He said only a handful of people bought the VIP tickets as this was a show that Cooper was opening up for the Crue.

But Alice just comes across as such a legit nice guy. I wonder how he was to deal with in the 70's and early 80's when he was out to lunch 24 hours a day.
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Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2017, 06:02:55 PM: I listen to his radio show on the way home most nights and he is just super chill, love him.

$170 is a bit steep though Brent. Don't think I could pay that.
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Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2017, 06:03:52 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 27, 2017, 11:48:55 AM
My buddy bought a Alice Cooper VIP package a few years back and he said he paid $500. This included a ticket and 10 minutes of one on one time with Alice and you could get anything signed. He said he was so nervous he just smiled and stammered for the entire time and Alice had to prompt him to say anything. My buddy said it was completely worth it.

He said only a handful of people bought the VIP tickets as this was a show that Cooper was opening up for the Crue.

But Alice just comes across as such a legit nice guy. I wonder how he was to deal with in the 70's and early 80's when he was out to lunch 24 hours a day.

That is worth it.
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Post by: TAC on April 27, 2017, 07:04:47 PM: Went to meet Alice literally 20 years ago. Here I am shaking his hand:

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Alice.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Alice.jpg.html)

As you can tell, I was so freaking happy. I had him sign two CD covers, Go To Hell and Zipper Catches Skin. He took one look at the ZCS cover and asked where did I ever find it, and that he didn't even remember making it. He was very cool!
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 27, 2017, 07:18:59 PM: Tim it looks like you are meeting Alice in an old wooden shack and this picture is take seconds before you are attacked by Jason Voorhees.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2017, 07:28:51 PM: New show for you guys - have been through the detail before. Theme is "hard rock rarities" with artists from #-B's . Often bands don't make it big for a reason but these are some of the best that possibly could've with a bit more luck. A bit wimpy/glammy in parts for some but there's a decent amount of melodic metal in amongst it and a smattering of the bigger names (in the same alphabetical order) as well.

https://yadi.sk/d/umAMRDez3HRyAA

As per usual , indexed in the OP for future reference. Will get around to posting a tracklist doc at some point too , but it should be pretty easy to follow with each band getting an intro. Ben played up plenty on this show too (and plenty more cut out). ::)

Nice photo Tim :)
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Post by: TAC on April 27, 2017, 07:31:45 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 27, 2017, 07:18:59 PM
Tim it looks like you are meeting Alice in an old wooden shack and this picture is take seconds before you are attacked by Jason Voorhees.
:rollin

You don't know how close that is to the truth.

Every year, around Halloween (this was Oct '96) there was this thing called Spooky World. It had horror movie stars, make up artists, etc all make appearences. Pretty sure Jason (the guy who played him) was there one year. Anyway, the year Alice went, we HAD to go.

So yeah, it was like meeting him out in the wood shed. :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 27, 2017, 07:34:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 27, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
Nice photo Tim :)

Thanks Brent! I freaking LOVE Alice Cooper. Love him.

Will D-load tomorrow after work. Thank you!
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Post by: TAC on April 27, 2017, 07:38:54 PM: Quote from: Imaginos on April 26, 2017, 10:08:31 PM
I really enjoyed Aerosmith's Walk this Way book, and I just finished reading The Replacements' bio, Trouble Boys, which was fantastic. Granted I'm a big fan of both bands, but I think the story of both bands is pretty interesting regardless.

Anyone know if Scott Ian's book is any good? I've been wanting to read it for a while and I figure it would be pretty good, but I guess it could suck or something.

I keep checking my library network for Ian's book.

You mentioned Aerosmith. Did you read Joe Perry's book? He said that in the 70's he didn't really partake in backstage activities with um..girls. He would just go back to his room and practice his guitar. C'mon! I call bullshit. I realize he doesn't want to offend his wife and all, but...
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 27, 2017, 07:56:51 PM: Extremely unlikely Joe
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 27, 2017, 08:05:40 PM: Downloading podcast. Hope to get to it this weekend, but tomorrow is filled with a shit-ton of excellent releases.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2017, 10:10:19 AM: This will be a cool podcast. It's still hard to comprehend what Brent will classify as rarities lol

How do the rest of us stand a chance of knowing any of these songs!
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2017, 10:13:56 AM: And is anyone else picking up the new live Fates Warning?
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 28, 2017, 10:26:33 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 28, 2017, 10:13:56 AM
And is anyone else picking up the new live Fates Warning?

I was there. Wasn't a fan of them back then, so it really doesn't resonate with me. I recognize that it's a big f'n deal for most FW fans, but not so much for me.

:dunno:
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Post by: TAC on April 28, 2017, 10:37:36 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 28, 2017, 10:13:56 AM
And is anyone else picking up the new live Fates Warning?

Yes. Looking forward to hearing modern (Jarzombek) version of ATG.
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Post by: Samsara on April 28, 2017, 11:06:16 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 28, 2017, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on April 28, 2017, 10:13:56 AM
And is anyone else picking up the new live Fates Warning?

Yes. Looking forward to hearing modern (Jarzombek) version of ATG.

He's not playing it. It's the drummer for ATG.

Mine arrives today, I hope. I pre-ordered from Metal Blade. Got the deluxe book.
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Post by: TAC on April 28, 2017, 04:31:56 PM: Zimmerman? Oh OK. Thank you for clearing that up. Still, this should sound far better then the studio version.
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2017, 04:37:13 PM: I'll probably pick that Fates Warning up if I see it. Will download the podcast hopefully tonight.
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Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2017, 04:42:53 PM: New Dream Evil. Nothing new from them really, standard stuff. Funny video though;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVcISveC6gI
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Post by: Podaar on April 28, 2017, 04:46:51 PM: Was that a pickle in the cat box?
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Post by: TAC on April 28, 2017, 06:38:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 28, 2017, 04:42:53 PM
New Dream Evil. Nothing new from them really, standard stuff. Funny video though;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVcISveC6gI

I like the tune well enough. But that video cannot be unseen.
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Post by: Imaginos on April 28, 2017, 09:47:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 27, 2017, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: Imaginos on April 26, 2017, 10:08:31 PM
I really enjoyed Aerosmith's Walk this Way book, and I just finished reading The Replacements' bio, Trouble Boys, which was fantastic. Granted I'm a big fan of both bands, but I think the story of both bands is pretty interesting regardless.

Anyone know if Scott Ian's book is any good? I've been wanting to read it for a while and I figure it would be pretty good, but I guess it could suck or something.

I keep checking my library network for Ian's book.

You mentioned Aerosmith. Did you read Joe Perry's book? He said that in the 70's he didn't really partake in backstage activities with um..girls. He would just go back to his room and practice his guitar. C'mon! I call bullshit. I realize he doesn't want to offend his wife and all, but...

I've read most of Joe's book but I haven't finished it. I don't know, I kind of believe him, maybe I'm naïve
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 29, 2017, 05:21:54 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 28, 2017, 04:42:53 PM
New Dream Evil. Nothing new from them really, standard stuff. Funny video though;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVcISveC6gI

What it the holy hell did I just watch?? @ 1:20, did Tater join the band?

Also - Metal is Forever from Primal Fear DVD ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q73Zao79sWI
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Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2017, 05:27:14 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 29, 2017, 05:21:54 AM
Also - Metal is Forever from Primal Fear DVD ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q73Zao79sWI

It really pisses me off that Alex plays the solo for this song when the guy that actually played the solo on the album is on the other side of the stage. WTF?!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on April 29, 2017, 05:27:36 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 29, 2017, 05:21:54 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 28, 2017, 04:42:53 PM
New Dream Evil. Nothing new from them really, standard stuff. Funny video though;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVcISveC6gI

What it the holy hell did I just watch?? @ 1:20, did Tater join the band?

The video looks like a bunch of dads pretending to be a rock band in the back yard. Vocals were strained shit. Otherwise it wouldn't have been too bad a song.
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Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2017, 06:09:36 AM: I love that I can always count on Blob to have a difference in opinion no matter what. :heart

I thought the video was a laugh. This band has always been a cliche band, that's what they sort of marketed themselves as back in the day. They did generic power metal and they knew it. They didn't try to do anything new or original, they kind of made the statement that that's what they were doing. They have never taken themselves seriously at all.
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Post by: Podaar on April 29, 2017, 07:05:43 AM: I thought the little apprentice devil wings were funny as hell. Especially when one of the guys was trying to make them flap. :lol

Yeah, I took it in the spirit that wolfking describes above.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 29, 2017, 07:32:58 AM: That Dream Evil video.........wowzers.

But that Primal Fear release is going to be a smoking live album, Ralf sounds awesome.
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Post by: TAC on April 29, 2017, 10:14:08 AM: The Podcast is downloaded and transferred to my iPod. Listening will commence.

That's a great opening monologue, Brent. Appreciate being taken along for the ride.
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Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2017, 05:01:33 PM: Podcast downloading now!
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Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2017, 05:19:17 PM: Dunno if anyone will dig this but it's a band called The Night Flight Orchestra. It's the singer and guitarists' of Soilwork's other band. Old school 80's style but pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcnKnNKv-A
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Post by: TAC on April 29, 2017, 07:05:50 PM: Not sure what I expected, but that sure as hell wasn't it. :lol

Awesome solo.. blood, guts, and all!

Checked the next song in the queue. Expecting about 5 hours of this kind of thing in Brent's new podcast! ;D

It's weird, but this music kind of hits a spot somewhere deep. Totally 80's. Gonna check out further. On Mignight Flyer, the singer reminds me of Graham Bonnett.
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Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2017, 07:53:13 PM: Good stuff Tim. This will be their third album. The first one was pretty damn good, but for some reason I never got around to checking out the second. These new songs have resparked my interest though.

Amazing stuff considering the two founders of the band are from Soilwork. Also has Sharlee D'Angelo on bass (Kind Diamond, Arch Enemy).
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Post by: bl5150 on April 29, 2017, 09:18:12 PM: Night Flight Orchestra are cool - I think I submitted them in my very first DTF roulette. Nice retro vibe but also plenty of originality. From memory the 2nd wasn't as strong as the debut but I like what I'm hearing from the new one.

Had intended featuring them in a future show but Kade has saved me the trouble :)
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Post by: Kotowboy on April 30, 2017, 03:21:13 AM: I was just thinking out of nowhere...

I wonder how many rock riffs have that whole " double stops over a pedal tone " thing going on...

like in 2 minutes to Midnight for example.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 30, 2017, 04:04:40 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 29, 2017, 05:19:17 PM
Dunno if anyone will dig this but it's a band called The Night Flight Orchestra. It's the singer and guitarists' of Soilwork's other band. Old school 80's style but pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcnKnNKv-A

Not what I was expecting at all with the link, but I dug the song.
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2017, 04:19:44 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 29, 2017, 09:18:12 PM
Night Flight Orchestra are cool - I think I submitted them in my very first DTF roulette. Nice retro vibe but also plenty of originality. From memory the 2nd wasn't as strong as the debut but I like what I'm hearing from the new one.

Had intended featuring them in a future show but Kade has saved me the trouble :)

No worries Brent. I think I may have checked the second one but also thought it wasn't as strong as the debut, so I think I wrote it off pretty quick. Definitely liking what I'm hearing from this one too.
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2017, 04:35:56 AM: Nice classic Aussie trio of songs Brent.

I liked the 21 Guns. Heard about them through the Frontiers project LRS a couple of years back and was always one to check out. That song backed that up.

Interesting that you and Paul have crossed paths over the years, good stuff.
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2017, 04:53:39 AM: That's one Accept album that I never checked out but that will change, that song was fucking great.

That first Aces High song was pretty sweet too, but the second song, the ballad was fucking amazing.
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Post by: TAC on April 30, 2017, 06:53:47 AM: Quote from: Kotowboy on April 30, 2017, 03:21:13 AM
I was just thinking out of nowhere...

I wonder how many rock riffs have that whole " double stops over a pedal tone " thing going on...

like in 2 minutes to Midnight for example.
The Two Minutes To Midnight riff?

Let's see..

Riot-Swords And Tequila
Saxon- Power And The Glory
Accept-Flash Rocking Man
Dio- Stand Up And Shout
Hammerfall- Fury OF The Wild

I know there's more.
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Post by: TAC on April 30, 2017, 07:01:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 30, 2017, 04:53:39 AM
That's one Accept album that I never checked out but that will change, that song was fucking great.

Accept is on the podcast? Nice! Must be from one of the first three albums. Breaker, maybe?
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2017, 03:53:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 30, 2017, 07:01:35 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 30, 2017, 04:53:39 AM
That's one Accept album that I never checked out but that will change, that song was fucking great.

Accept is on the podcast? Nice! Must be from one of the first three albums. Breaker, maybe?

Eat the Heat.
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Post by: TAC on April 30, 2017, 04:03:11 PM: I haven't heard that album since it came out. Other then Generation Clash, the only song I remember liking was D Train. I literally have no memory of the song Brent played.
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2017, 04:45:52 PM: I'm listening to it right now and think it's quite excellent.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 30, 2017, 04:48:41 PM: That's a great album and David Reece is a very good singer. But he clearly wasn't a good fit for Accept and the album sounds absolutely nothing like Accept. But I can only assume the band was trying to reach a larger audience with the new melodic sound, but nobody seemed interested and it bombed.
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2017, 04:59:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 30, 2017, 04:48:41 PM
That's a great album and David Reece is a very good singer. But he clearly wasn't a good fit for Accept and the album sounds absolutely nothing like Accept. But I can only assume the band was trying to reach a larger audience with the new melodic sound, but nobody seemed interested and it bombed.

I can see why it bombed under the Accept banner, but it is a really good collection of songs, I dig it. Wouldn't mind a copy of this.
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Post by: TAC on April 30, 2017, 05:21:28 PM: I don't remember liking it very much. Of course I was already a huge Accept fan. In fact, after the Dio tour, they were planning a club tour, and we had already purchased tickets. But then Udo left the band and the tour was cancelled. So bummed.

Eat The Heat did absolutely nothing for me. Like I said, I did not remember the track Brent played at all.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2017, 06:43:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 30, 2017, 05:21:28 PM
I don't remember liking it very much. Of course I was already a huge Accept fan. In fact, after the Dio tour, they were planning a club tour, and we had already purchased tickets. But then Udo left the band and the tour was cancelled. So bummed.

Eat The Heat did absolutely nothing for me. Like I said, I did not remember the track Brent played at all.

The track I used was originally a Jap bonus track and would've one of the better tracks on it ;) I'm pretty sure that most recent versions feature the song though
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Post by: TAC on April 30, 2017, 06:57:28 PM: OK, well that makes sense. I know I've never heard that title before. I played Eat The Heat a lot, almost forcing myself to like it. It really just never stuck.

BTW, speaking of Accept, I listened to Stalingrad while cutting the lawn today. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 04:33:28 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 30, 2017, 06:57:28 PM
BTW, speaking of Accept, I listened to Stalingrad while cutting the lawn today. :metal

That poor lawn didn't know what hit it!
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Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 04:44:53 AM: What I've heard from Alien has been quality and that track is no different.

Not sure about the Ear-Xtasy albums Brent but they did release a compilation called That Was Then, This is Now which is a best of the 2 cd's. That's what I have, but never dived fully into both albums of the Xtasy albums. This is the track list;

1    Super '70s
2    Pink Champagne Sparkle
3    Falling Down
4    Beautiful Strange
5    Turn Away
6    I Remember Stevie
7    Cry For You
8    Farmer Sez
9    Electric Gypsy
10    It's Getting Better
11    That Was Then, This Is Now
12    Groove Or Die
13    A Night To Remember
14    Carpe Diem
15    Donna Lee (Live)
16    Slips Away
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Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 04:47:17 AM: Fuck, I know of that Angry Anderson album but never checked it out and had no idea Slamer was behind it. Nice.
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Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 05:27:01 AM: Hahahaha, Tim got Wingered with Autograph!!! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 06:01:05 AM: That Bad Habit was really sweet.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 01, 2017, 07:20:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 05:27:01 AM
Hahahaha, Tim got Wingered with Autograph!!! :lol

:lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 01, 2017, 08:18:00 AM: :) Glad you're getting some new finds out of it Kade.
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Post by: Samsara on May 01, 2017, 10:10:23 AM: Got the Metal Church live album (recorded last year) on Friday. Not sure who mixed it, but my Lord is Mike Howe way high in the mix. So much so, I can barely hear the music without blasting it. Anyone else pick it up and notice that?

Gotta admit, I'm a bit bummed, because the Howe era of Metal Church is my favorite. But he's so loud in the mix it is distracting.
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Post by: Big Hath on May 01, 2017, 11:43:42 AM: I've listened through the Alien track so far. I love that 21 Guns album - pretty sure I sent Kade a track from that album in his roulette.

Other standouts were 1st Avenue, Accept, and that first Aces High track.
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Post by: TAC on May 01, 2017, 11:51:52 AM: I'm only up to the Accept.

Quote from: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 05:27:01 AM
Hahahaha, Tim got Wingered with Autograph!!! :lol

Hmmm... so I should stop at the Accept? :lol

Quote from: Samsara on May 01, 2017, 10:10:23 AM
Got the Metal Church live album (recorded last year) on Friday. Not sure who mixed it, but my Lord is Mike Howe way high in the mix. So much so, I can barely hear the music without blasting it. Anyone else pick it up and notice that?

Gotta admit, I'm a bit bummed, because the Howe era of Metal Church is my favorite. But he's so loud in the mix it is distracting.

Didn't realize it was out already. I don't like the sounds of that. May have to hear it first.
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Post by: TAC on May 01, 2017, 12:53:36 PM: Listening to the live Metal Church on Spotify. I see what you are saying, Brian. Sounds like a pre FM soundboard. The guitars have a "loudness" issue where they are way too fuzzy too.

How the hell could they make so many great live albums 40 years ago??
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Post by: Lowdz on May 01, 2017, 04:27:30 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 04:44:53 AM
What I've heard from Alien has been quality and that track is no different.

Not sure about the Ear-Xtasy albums Brent but they did release a compilation called That Was Then, This is Now which is a best of the 2 cd's. That's what I have, but never dived fully into both albums of the Xtasy albums. This is the track list;

1    Super '70s
2    Pink Champagne Sparkle
3    Falling Down
4    Beautiful Strange
5    Turn Away
6    I Remember Stevie
7    Cry For You
8    Farmer Sez
9    Electric Gypsy
10    It's Getting Better
11    That Was Then, This Is Now
12    Groove Or Die
13    A Night To Remember
14    Carpe Diem
15    Donna Lee (Live)
16    Slips Away

Groove or Die is a great shred instrumental :metal
Not got around to downloading yet, but will get to it this week.
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Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 05:23:20 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on May 01, 2017, 11:43:42 AM
I've listened through the Alien track so far. I love that 21 Guns album - pretty sure I sent Kade a track from that album in his roulette.

Other standouts were 1st Avenue, Accept, and that first Aces High track.

No, I didn't get 21 Guns from you Jon. I'll definitely have to check the album out though.
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Post by: TAC on May 01, 2017, 06:43:26 PM: Metal For Melbourne :metal
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Post by: TAC on May 01, 2017, 06:53:28 PM: Brent, great call on the Alice track. I thank you for including him. My only request is to play him again when the C's come up. ;D

You mentioned Alice before General Hospital. I was thinking Freedom or Trash, but The World Needs Guts is fantastic. Constrictor is ridiculously overlooked. We talk a lot about Raise Your Fist And Yell around here, but Constrictor is full of great tunes.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 01, 2017, 07:47:24 PM: Teenage Franenstein, Life and Death of the Party and He's Back (Man Behind the Mask) are three of my top Alice Cooper tracks.
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Post by: TAC on May 01, 2017, 07:51:47 PM: Life And Death Of The Party is amazing. Good call Jason.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 01, 2017, 08:07:15 PM: Once you play any of those songs, they are locked in your head for quite awhile!
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Post by: TAC on May 01, 2017, 08:13:53 PM: "Gonna lay it on thick so the memory'll stick." :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 01, 2017, 08:31:12 PM: Trick Bag is a great one too!
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Post by: Imaginos on May 01, 2017, 09:02:48 PM: I saw Alice a couple nights ago, and he actually played The World Needs Guts!!!!! I was floored that he even touched anything from the 80s aside from Poison. Not only that, but he also played Pain off of Flush the Fashion. All in all a really cool setlist.
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Post by: Big Hath on May 01, 2017, 09:35:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 05:23:20 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on May 01, 2017, 11:43:42 AM
I've listened through the Alien track so far. I love that 21 Guns album - pretty sure I sent Kade a track from that album in his roulette.

Other standouts were 1st Avenue, Accept, and that first Aces High track.

No, I didn't get 21 Guns from you Jon. I'll definitely have to check the album out though.

ah, I know what it was. I put it on the EP I sent you even though I didn't make the finals.
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Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2017, 06:02:34 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on May 01, 2017, 09:35:55 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 05:23:20 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on May 01, 2017, 11:43:42 AM
I've listened through the Alien track so far. I love that 21 Guns album - pretty sure I sent Kade a track from that album in his roulette.

Other standouts were 1st Avenue, Accept, and that first Aces High track.

No, I didn't get 21 Guns from you Jon. I'll definitely have to check the album out though.

ah, I know what it was. I put it on the EP I sent you even though I didn't make the finals.

Damn, left it a tad too late mate.
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Post by: Big Hath on May 02, 2017, 01:07:22 PM: through the Bad Habit track now. I really like that album. The vocalist has a James Christian vibe to him.

Brent's description of the Asgard/Imago Mundi concept was awesome!

Standouts for me this round were Andy Timmons, Angelica, and that Axel Rudi Pell track.
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Post by: TAC on May 02, 2017, 03:00:07 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on May 02, 2017, 01:07:22 PM
through the Bad Habit track now. I really like that album. The vocalist has a James Christian vibe to him.

Brent's description of the Asgard/Imago Mundi concept was awesome!

Standouts for me this round were Andy Timmons, Angelica, and that Axel Rudi Pell track.

I'm up to Arch Rival, which is pretty good, especially the second song. The Angelica was really cool. The Timmons was surprisingly good.
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Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2017, 04:01:11 PM: Timmons is so underrated. So underrated he has to play in Olivia Newton Johns band!
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Post by: TAC on May 02, 2017, 04:23:16 PM: Underrated...and smart!
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Post by: TAC on May 02, 2017, 04:27:02 PM: Quote from: Imaginos on May 01, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
I saw Alice a couple nights ago, and he actually played The World Needs Guts!!!!! I was floored that he even touched anything from the 80s aside from Poison. Not only that, but he also played Pain off of Flush the Fashion. All in all a really cool setlist.

:omg:

Wow.
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Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2017, 04:29:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 02, 2017, 04:23:16 PM
Underrated...and smart!

Yeah, I guess haha.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 02, 2017, 05:09:32 PM: Just watching Fates Warning Awaken the Guardian Live. Very cool show and its amazing considering that this lineup hasn't played together for so long, that they pulled it off this well. They are all seasoned professionals so it likely didn't take long for them all to get on the same page.

What's the opinion of Frank Aresti as a guitarist? He seems very impressive to me. Nothing too flashy, just very talented.
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Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2017, 05:12:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 02, 2017, 05:09:32 PM
What's the opinion of Frank Aresti as a guitarist? He seems very impressive to me. Nothing too flashy, just very talented.

I rate him big time, always have since i first heard him. He does do some flashy stuff Jason from time to time, but he also has a very unique style. Very fitting for Fates music, and was a great contrast to Jim's style. Great technical skill and the Life in Still Water solo is still for me one of the hardest solos to get right, it's insane.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 02, 2017, 05:20:58 PM: Yeah just watching him right now, he really comes across as flawless on the guitar.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 02, 2017, 05:35:32 PM: (https://scontent.fyyz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18119492_1371386366250744_7043405503074620621_n.jpg?oh=0355fd494c3428284ef8c90bd4748a77&oe=59BF7118)

TEN ANNOUNCES NEW ALBUM "GOTHICA", OUT JULY 7, 2017

The only bad news... it's on Frontiers.
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Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2017, 05:50:59 PM: Albion was a fantastic album from Ten I must say, but the last one was a little underdone. We'll see how this one guys.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 02, 2017, 06:00:19 PM: At least they haven't plonked some random babe warrior with a weird tattoo on the cover.
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Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2017, 06:04:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 02, 2017, 06:00:19 PM
At least they haven't plonked some random babe warrior with a weird tattoo on the cover.

To be honest, when I saw the cover, I was a little disappointed.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 02, 2017, 06:05:59 PM: I'm sure Prog Snob is too - he won't buy anything without a hot chick on the cover.
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Post by: TAC on May 02, 2017, 06:08:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 02, 2017, 06:05:59 PM
I'm sure Prog Snob is too - he won't buy anything without a hot chick on the cover.

I don't know. There's a bunch of dudes in his sig.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 02, 2017, 10:12:08 PM: That album cover is horrible.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 02, 2017, 11:12:18 PM: That girl needs to put fabric softener sheets in her laundry to reduce the static cling
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Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2017, 12:26:32 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 02, 2017, 11:12:18 PM
That girl needs to put fabric softener sheets in her laundry to reduce the static cling

:rollin
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Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2017, 05:16:51 AM: Another Ferryman song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSo7m6UPvs8

This one is pretty standard Magnus, but sounds like a grower.
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Post by: TAC on May 03, 2017, 04:45:31 PM: Quote from: Samsara on May 01, 2017, 10:10:23 AM
Got the Metal Church live album (recorded last year) on Friday. Not sure who mixed it, but my Lord is Mike Howe way high in the mix. So much so, I can barely hear the music without blasting it. Anyone else pick it up and notice that?

Gotta admit, I'm a bit bummed, because the Howe era of Metal Church is my favorite. But he's so loud in the mix it is distracting.

Just ordered this. It was less than $10 on Amazon. I'm good with that.

Also ordered the FW ATG Live and the Testament Original Album Series. I never got the original Testament albums back in the day, but happy to get all 5 for $15.
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Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2017, 04:46:09 PM: 5 albums of Testament!!! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2017, 04:47:24 PM: I notice a lot of bands have those original series editions. Seems like a great bargain if you want all the material from one band in one shot.
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Post by: Samsara on May 03, 2017, 05:30:31 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 03, 2017, 04:46:09 PM
5 albums of Testament!!! :metal

:metal

Quote from: jjrock88 on May 03, 2017, 04:47:24 PM
I notice a lot of bands have those original series editions. Seems like a great bargain if you want all the material from one band in one shot.

I got one from Montrose. It's good, but lacks the detail of the original releases (liner notes and such. They all came in card sleeves. I think I got the Roth-era VH albums like that too (except for the first one, I had that one).
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Post by: TAC on May 03, 2017, 05:43:06 PM: I did a search on Original Album Series on Amazon, and there's a ton of them. I saw the Montrose one.

I would highly recommend the UFO one. It's the 5 original Schenker ones. I think Stadler mentioned he had that.
I was hoping to find one from Triumph. I've never bothered to get their stuff on CD.

Also, I don't like the way they did the Alice Cooper ones.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2017, 05:47:01 PM: If you are looking for the best Triumph single cd, get "classics". All the hits you would need in one album.
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Post by: TAC on May 03, 2017, 06:01:02 PM: It's not really the hits I'm after. The only Triumph CD I have is The King Biscuit Flower Hour live album. It's excellent.
I also have a mix CD that I made many years ago. Not sure where I got the original files. But If I could get their first 5 albums in a package similar to the Testament one, I'd do it.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2017, 06:12:07 PM: Check out the look on George's face...............Adler babbling on endlessly in a radio interview and poor George wants out :lol

https://youtu.be/sm01miOx7as?t=151
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Post by: TAC on May 03, 2017, 06:16:18 PM: "Take a breath, dude." :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2017, 08:20:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2017, 06:12:07 PM
Check out the look on George's face...............Adler babbling on endlessly in a radio interview and poor George wants out :lol

https://youtu.be/sm01miOx7as?t=151

What the fuck, didn't know Alder has had a stroke.

Lynch wants to punch this douche in the face. George looks like a fucking gun at 62!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2017, 08:31:17 PM: George looks a bit like Razor Ramon
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Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2017, 08:40:28 PM: Hmm - Portnoy is touring Oz with his Shattered Fortress thingy - playing pub bandrooms and small theatres. I really don't have a good feel for how he'll go - could probably fill up those venues with diehard drummers and DT fans I suppose. It seems it's an extra $250 for a meet/greet . Doubt I'll be going as the 12-step thing doesn't contain much that I'm dying to hear. If I was going to go it would be to meet MP , even though he can be a douche , but not for $300+
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2017, 08:46:06 PM: I haven't paid any attention to that Shattered Fortress band. What material is he playing?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2017, 08:56:31 PM: Well the 12 Step Suite is the core of the show , then some additional DT "classics"
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2017, 09:01:20 PM: Sounds like it would be a good show. But yeah, not $300 good.
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Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2017, 11:31:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2017, 08:40:28 PM
Hmm - Portnoy is touring Oz with his Shattered Fortress thingy - playing pub bandrooms and small theatres. I really don't have a good feel for how he'll go - could probably fill up those venues with diehard drummers and DT fans I suppose. It seems it's an extra $250 for a meet/greet . Doubt I'll be going as the 12-step thing doesn't contain much that I'm dying to hear. If I was going to go it would be to meet MP , even though he can be a douche , but not for $300+

It's a no go for me. Even the concert I don't have much interest in.
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Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2017, 05:33:21 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on May 02, 2017, 01:07:22 PM
through the Bad Habit track now. I really like that album. The vocalist has a James Christian vibe to him.

I really really liked this track, and Brent you're right to talk up the guitarist, great solo.

I see Jaime Salazar is on the drums, great stuff.
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2017, 07:20:52 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2017, 08:40:28 PM
If I was going to go it would be to meet MP , even though he can be a douche , but not for $300+

As long as you don't have your Adrenaline Mob shirt on, you should be ok.
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Post by: Samsara on May 04, 2017, 08:21:42 AM: I have friends going to see TSF in NYC. I have no interest, personally. I am not fond of the songs in the suite, with the exception of The Glass Prison (which I saw live a bunch of times with DT). I am sure the performances will be good, and I watched the video of them doing it on the cruise, but for me, it's not really worth the time and expense to see it.

I AM STILL WAITING FOR HELLOWEEN TO ANNOUNCE U.S. DATES!!!!! Just sayin'...
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Post by: Big Hath on May 04, 2017, 12:11:12 PM: listened through the Black Roses now. Wow that Biloxi track was really great. I actually just listened to their Right The Music album a couple of weeks ago and it was also strong.

I thought both Bad Moon Rising tracks were really good as well.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2017, 05:28:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 04, 2017, 07:20:52 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2017, 08:40:28 PM
If I was going to go it would be to meet MP , even though he can be a douche , but not for $300+

As long as you don't have your Adrenaline Mob shirt on, you should be ok.

Rocking up in an ADTOE shirt and recording it on my phone could be worth it :neverusethis:
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Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2017, 06:30:44 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on May 04, 2017, 12:11:12 PM
I thought both Bad Moon Rising tracks were really good as well.

Agreed.
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2017, 07:44:14 PM: Autograph?

(https://www.funnyandhumorous.com/thumb/thank-you-very-much.jpg)

Oh, and who is the singer on the Aviator track? Has a familiar sounding voice.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2017, 07:50:57 PM: Ernie White .

Ernie doesn't seem to have been in much else of note.

Bert might know.

(https://s22.postimg.org/eftmj4o9t/bert.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2017, 08:01:34 PM: Well, Ernie White has a pretty good voice.
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Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2017, 05:14:19 AM: Those tracks from Black Roses I think it was, with Mark Free were awesome. Fuck he had an amazing voice back in the day. That soundtrack I've never heard of, but sounds interesting.
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Post by: Samsara on May 08, 2017, 08:15:13 AM: Anyone who likes 70s-inspired hard rock should check out Inglorious, the band that features Nathan James (TSO, The Voice UK) on vocals. First album was great, but the new one, II, is pretty awesome. I think it came out on Friday. I ordered the special edition which drops June 2, but I have had an advance for a week now. Just great stuff. If you've never heard of Nathan James, think a better version of David Coverdale, with range like Glenn Hughes. Jaw-dropping.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 08:43:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 08, 2017, 05:14:19 AM
Those tracks from Black Roses I think it was, with Mark Free were awesome. Fuck he had an amazing voice back in the day. That soundtrack I've never heard of, but sounds interesting.

Cheesy but good heavy metal horror movie. Soundtrack was even better and the Black Roses songs are great. Paradise (we're on our way) was my favorite
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Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2017, 08:49:26 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 08:43:02 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 08, 2017, 05:14:19 AM
Those tracks from Black Roses I think it was, with Mark Free were awesome. Fuck he had an amazing voice back in the day. That soundtrack I've never heard of, but sounds interesting.

Cheesy but good heavy metal horror movie. Soundtrack was even better and the Black Roses songs are great. Paradise (we're on our way) was my favorite

I played that and Soldiers Of The Night. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 09:34:22 AM: There were a few 80s horror movies with a heavy metal theme. Black Roses and Trick or Treat were probably the most "successful", but some others were Rocktober Blood, Terror on Tour, Shock Em Dead and the classic of all classics, Rock N Roll Nightmare starring Canadian rock legend Thor.

If you haven't seen any of those movies, don't bother lol. Good for a laugh especially RNRN
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Post by: ozzy554 on May 08, 2017, 10:21:23 AM: I should give Trick or Treat another watch. Haven't seen that one in years.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 10:30:05 AM: Ozzy and Gene make cameos in Trick or Treat
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2017, 11:47:15 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 10:30:05 AM
Ozzy and Gene make cameos in Trick or Treat

I didn't remember that. I saw it in the movies when it came out and have never seen it since.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2017, 11:49:34 AM: Quote from: Samsara on May 08, 2017, 08:15:13 AM
Anyone who likes 70s-inspired hard rock should check out Inglorious, the band that features Nathan James (TSO, The Voice UK) on vocals. First album was great, but the new one, II, is pretty awesome. I think it came out on Friday. I ordered the special edition which drops June 2, but I have had an advance for a week now. Just great stuff. If you've never heard of Nathan James, think a better version of David Coverdale, with range like Glenn Hughes. Jaw-dropping.

Yeah, sounds like an improvement on the debut as that one didn't do a lot for me other than a couple of tracks.
Nathan is like Glenn Hughes without the annoying factor. :rollin
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 12:45:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 08, 2017, 11:47:15 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 10:30:05 AM
Ozzy and Gene make cameos in Trick or Treat

I didn't remember that. I saw it in the movies when it came out and have never seen it since.

Gene played a DJ and Ozzy played a pastor. Just your daily useles info
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2017, 01:24:59 PM: Wasn't the main guy on Solid Gold?
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 04:49:52 PM: I don't know if he was on Solid Gold, but the main guy is Skippy from Growing Pains.
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2017, 05:01:23 PM: I don't even remember who that is.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 05:17:06 PM: Probably best not to try and remember lol
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2017, 05:33:25 PM: Remember what? ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 06:38:53 PM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2017, 07:36:45 PM: So as much as I LOVE Michael Schenker, I just gave Arachnophobiac a spin and I must say this album blows. A couple of nice moments, man, what suckage.

"I want my money back.
Arachnophobiac"
:facepalm:

Yeah, no shit!
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2017, 07:40:10 PM: Tim your two main Mike's have let you down recently
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2017, 07:52:04 PM: Well, Arachnophobiac is a 2003 release. I'm as far as the Bad Habit track on the new podcast, I think it's Bad Habit, where Brent talks about it being an ok song, but he really liked the guitarist. The song reminded me of something Michael Schenker would do. So it inspired me to grab a lesser listened to album of his and give it a run through.

For the record, Schenker's last two studio albums have been stellar!
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Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2017, 05:22:08 AM: Don't know what to think of this. Should be interesting at least.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/masterplan-album-of-re-recorded-helloween-songs-pumpkings-to-arrive-in-june/
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Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2017, 05:36:15 AM: That Blue Blud was awesome, really good song that one.

That Blue Tears was alright too.
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Post by: Samsara on May 09, 2017, 08:08:15 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 09, 2017, 05:22:08 AM
Don't know what to think of this. Should be interesting at least.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/masterplan-album-of-re-recorded-helloween-songs-pumpkings-to-arrive-in-june/

I saw that. My first question was...why?
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Post by: Big Hath on May 09, 2017, 12:22:36 PM: finished the podcast. Blackthorne was a standout. And man that Blue Murder track is so good. Bonfire (I really like both albums you mentioned), Brazen Abbot, and Battle Cries were great tracks. I picked up that The Brave cd after you played them in an early podcast.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 09, 2017, 08:17:38 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 09, 2017, 05:22:08 AM
Don't know what to think of this. Should be interesting at least.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/masterplan-album-of-re-recorded-helloween-songs-pumpkings-to-arrive-in-june/

I'm actually interested in hearing what this sounds like.
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Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2017, 09:33:21 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 09, 2017, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 09, 2017, 05:22:08 AM
Don't know what to think of this. Should be interesting at least.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/masterplan-album-of-re-recorded-helloween-songs-pumpkings-to-arrive-in-june/

I'm actually interested in hearing what this sounds like.

Me too. I hope the production is good, it could make or break it. The last album was awesome but the production and mix was just beyond awful.

Quote from: Samsara on May 09, 2017, 08:08:15 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 09, 2017, 05:22:08 AM
Don't know what to think of this. Should be interesting at least.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/masterplan-album-of-re-recorded-helloween-songs-pumpkings-to-arrive-in-june/

I saw that. My first question was...why?

I don't know really. Roland was very bitter about the way he was fired from the band, I'm guessing it could be some sort of closure thing for him, or just something he always wanted to do. Maybe some of the songs he wrote here got changed and they are presented here the way he always wanted them, who knows.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 05:40:52 AM: Back to the podcast this morning.
Brent, the first Bad Habit track's chorus fits just fine in the song.

I remember Brian Howe era Bad Co being played constantly on the radio.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2017, 05:49:52 AM: Great podcast Brent. That Brian MCDonald with Reb Beach was very good too.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 05:54:05 AM: I think there were two songs with Doug Aldrich, right. His playing on that second song was very good.
They reminded me of Tesla, but not as engaging. Maybe it was the singer.

I was not aware of Aldrich back in the day, and only heard of him with Dio, which I must say was quite underwhelming.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2017, 05:54:55 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 10, 2017, 05:54:05 AM
I think there were two songs with Doug Aldrich, right. His playing on that second song was very good.
They reminded me of Tesla, but not as engaging. Maybe it was the singer.

I was not aware of Aldrich back in the day, and only heard of him with Dio, which I must say was quite underwhelming.

Both songs with Doug were from Bad Moon Rising.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 05:56:21 AM: Brent, some common names in that Badd Boyz lineup, but you didn't mention who the drummer was.

And speaking of Mitch Perry, I'm expecting to hear some Heaven when we get to the H's!
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2017, 06:10:02 AM: So we have like another 12 podcasts coming? :metal :corn

I don't want to see any skimping on the X's or Z's Brent.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 06:22:16 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 10, 2017, 05:56:21 AM
Brent, some common names in that Badd Boyz lineup, but you didn't mention who the drummer was.

That's because I was only mentioning the common names :P Rich Carlton..............never 'eard of 'im.

Quote from: TAC on May 10, 2017, 05:40:52 AM
Brent, the first Bad Habit track's chorus fits just fine in the song.

it was more that I felt the pre-chorus was huge and the chorus relatively underwhelming

Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2017, 05:49:52 AM
Great podcast Brent. That Brian MCDonald with Reb Beach was very good too.

Thanks :)
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 08:29:38 AM: So Brent, appreciate the effort on the podcast. Very much appreciated.

The Bangalore Choir track was pretty good. You've played Banshee too before, right?

The second Shortino track was cool too.

Not a criticism of the podcast Brent, but I feel like everything I've heard is so similar. Back in those days, it was hard for a band to stick out. A lot of it looked and sounded the same. I totally ignored bands based on a shitty name or a picture. Of course I checked out bands for the same reasons.
Brent, your research in the old days is impressive, especially without computers. But it's not just the lack of technology. It's the time/money/dedication that it takes.

Oh..and Barren Cross :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 08:37:46 AM: I still say Brent can give Dee a run for his money!

I enjoyed Banshee's Race Against Time album, a lot of strong tracks on that one.

And I've been a big fan of Barren Cross for years. I think the vocals being similar to Bruce Dickinson is what interested me initially, but Atomic Arena and State of Control ended up being a couple of my all time favorites. The debut and Rattle Your Cage are also very good. I think the band have thrown out the possibility of new material the last few years but nothing came of it. I would be interested to see what you rate the BC albums Brent?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 08:43:45 AM: Didn't think I had played Banshee before but you could be right Tim. I did make an effort to try and pick songs that mostly had a memorable hook that had stuck with me for the very reason you state - a lot of stuff sounded the same back then..........obviously I didn't quite succeed there for you , but then again I thought you might say the whole podcast was somewhere between "sucks" and "blows" so I will take your thoughts as a compliment ;D

Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 08:37:46 AM
I still say Brent can give Dee a run for his money!

I enjoyed Banshee's Race Against Time album, a lot of strong tracks on that one.

And I've been a big fan of Barren Cross for years. I think the vocals being similar to Bruce Dickinson is what interested me initially, but Atomic Arena and State of Control ended up being a couple of my all time favorites. The debut and Rattle Your Cage are also very good. I think the band have thrown out the possibility of new material the last few years but nothing came of it. I would be interested to see what you rate the BC albums Brent?

Thanks JJ. I have never heard Dee's show but I gather he mostly plays the classics?

I haven't rated the Barren Cross albums but after a quick look at song ratings(and as mentioned in the show) I tend to love a few songs on each album but also think there's plenty of filler. So most of their albums are likely 70's - 80 . Atomic Arena seems the most consistent and would likely rate mid-high 80's.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 08:50:14 AM: You should check out the House of Hair from Dee Snider. I enjoy him as a DJ and its all 80's heavy metal/hair metal. I imagine you can stream the show from his website, but I know at least they were putting the set list up from every show.
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Post by: Big Hath on May 10, 2017, 08:51:40 AM: that was the first time Banshee has been played in the podcast
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Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2017, 11:34:50 AM: I think you should write a book Brent. It would be the difinitive guide to 80s metal.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 12:01:31 PM: I would pay money to watch a heavy metal jeopardy match between Brent and Martin Popoff.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 12:32:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 12:01:31 PM
I would pay money to watch a heavy metal jeopardy match between Brent and Martin Popoff.

Brent:
(https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/51086281.jpg?w=3000)

Popoff:
(https://cdn.someecards.com/posts/jeopardy-wrong-guess-confident-HVq.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 01:04:08 PM: :lol

Popoff doesnt stand a chance
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 03:44:53 PM: BLACKFOOT!!! :metal

What a nice surprise. I loved Siogo when I was a kid. I think it made The TAC Top 50. Send Me And Angel was the stand out track. And I still get goosebumps when I listen to Teenage Idol.
They were great up through Siogo, even though they added Ken Hensley to that to commercialize. But there's still enough great tunes, I think it's a great crossover album. the follow up, Vertical Smiles, despite the ..um..interesting album cover, absolutely blows.

Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 08:43:45 AM
I did make an effort to try and pick songs that mostly had a memorable hook that had stuck with me for the very reason you state - a lot of stuff sounded the same back then..........obviously I didn't quite succeed there for you , but then again I thought you might say the whole podcast was somewhere between "sucks" and "blows" so I will take your thoughts as a compliment ;D

Oh, no issues here. It was like that back in the day. I think my point was that there is only so much you can do with this style and my ears start to glaze over. There were so many bands that all had same look, same sound, same dumb spellings of their namez.( ;D). No wonder grunge took off.

The Blue Blud was excellent. And I was all ready to call them Blew Blud! ;D

...and I'm not a Blue Murder guy. Valley is awesome, but that's all I really care for. I was very disappointed in that when it came out. But we've gone over that many times already.

Edit: Blew Tears! :lol
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 04:30:43 PM: Hell f'n yes!!

https://bravewords.com/news/alice-cooper-announces-new-album-paranormal-features-guest-appearances-by-zz-tops-billy-gibbons-u2s-larry-mullen-jr

U2's drummer?? Nice. Love the quote from the story:
Cooper also talked about the U2 drummer's somewhat unusual approach to recording. Alice recalled: "Larry (said), 'I wanna see the lyrics.' I said, 'Really?' He (said), 'Yeah, I play to the lyrics. I don't play to the bass.' And I said, 'That is so cool — just the idea that you're interpreting the lyrics on the drums.' So that totally makes the album another album."

First UFO dates are announced, and then a new Alice album is.

What a day!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, Alice owes an excellent album. His last few have been sub par. Still love him though.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 05:34:28 PM: Blew Tears :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 05:49:01 PM: The last new Alice Cooper album I heard was Welcome to My Nightmare 2. A couple of good tracks but I was quite disappointed overall in that one.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 05:53:00 PM: The last Alice album I listened to from start to finish is Hey Stoopid :-[
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 05:56:32 PM: When I want to listen to Cooper, I firstly reach for Constrictor or Raise Your Fist and Yell.

I have a greatest hits called Monsters and Mascara which has his 70's and early 80s hits (plus Poison). I like all the hits from the 70s but I've heard some deep album cuts and it was a little too out there and weird for me. I probably would have to give them more listens but I'm sure I would warm up to them.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 06:03:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 05:56:32 PM
When I want to listen to Cooper, I firstly reach for Constrictor or Raise Your Fist and Yell.

Ditto - definitely those two and Raise Your Fist the most. I sampled earlier stuff and have Billion Dollar Babies on tape but never got the impression that his early stuff was for me. But then I struggle with a lot of 70's stuff ......I never enjoyed much pre British Steel from Priest and it's like that with most bands that straddled the 70's and 80's , with a few notable exceptions (VH , KISS etc..)
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 06:27:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 05:56:32 PM
When I want to listen to Cooper, I firstly reach for Constrictor or Raise Your Fist and Yell.

Ditto - definitely those two and Raise Your Fist the most. I sampled earlier stuff and have Billion Dollar Babies on tape but never got the impression that his early stuff was for me. But then I struggle with a lot of 70's stuff ......I never enjoyed much pre British Steel from Priest and it's like that with most bands that straddled the 70's and 80's , with a few notable exceptions (VH , KISS etc..)

The last excellent Alice album was The Eyes Of Alice Cooper. Jason, I sent you What Do You Want From Me in your roulette. That album has a great garage band old school feel. I totally recommend it.

Welcome 2 was very weak, and the one before it, Along Came A Spider is unlistenable.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 06:40:09 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 05:53:00 PM
The last Alice album I listened to from start to finish is Hey Stoopid :-[

Hey Stoopid is awesome.

But even that has some suck tracks.

The lineup on that tour:

Vinnie Moore
Stef Burns
Greg Smith
Derek Sherinian
Eric Singer

:metal :metal

Brent, give Eyes a listen. (you probably have..)
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 06:49:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 05:56:32 PM
When I want to listen to Cooper, I firstly reach for Constrictor or Raise Your Fist and Yell.

Ditto - definitely those two and Raise Your Fist the most.

Roses On White Lace is a TAC Top 10 Alice track.

Triple Post!!!

I can do this all night!!
ALICE!!!!!
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 06:54:26 PM: My 3 "go to" songs are Roses , Freedom and Prince of Darkness. Chop,Chop,Chop always got a laugh :)
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 07:04:53 PM: Yeah, that's a great album. Some filler on Side 1, but Side 2 is awesome. Time To Kill :metal

That was an awesome tour. Especially Chop/Gail/Roses. He also busted out Dead Babies/Killer too.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 07:10:39 PM: Yeah - Time To Kill is cool too
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 07:16:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 07:10:39 PM
Yeah - Time To Kill is cool too

It's also too cool. :D
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 08:04:11 PM: Roses on White Lace is my top track from Raise Your Fist. I actually liked it more after I heard the cover from Icarus Witch. If you haven't heard that cover version, check it out. The whole album is great. I really like the Friday the 13th movies, so Constrictor and Raise Your Fist are basically soundtracks for those movies.

Tim you mentioned that Along Came a Spider was unlistenable. I've never heard the whole album but I've heard Vengeance is Mine, which I thought was very good. I remember I liked it so much I bought the single on iTunes. Is the album overall just a piece of junk?
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 08:19:31 PM: I think so. Been a long time since I listened to it.

The story is awesome. It's about a guy that needs to kill 8 women to form a "spider". After he has 7 he needs one more, except he falls in love with the 8th victim. So there's the album's conflict.

It's literally been a few years since I've listened to it. Musically I didn't like it at all. Vengeance Is Mine is OK. the heaviest track on the album. But it's nowhere near indicative of the album's sound. Not even close. I pulled it out for tomorrow's ride to/from work.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2017, 08:29:49 PM: Let us know how it sounds after not listening to it for a few years.

And I need to know which Frankenstein song is the most popular? Is it Teenage Frankenstein or Feed My Frankenstein? Tough question but I'll go with Feed My Frankenstein.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2017, 08:45:16 PM: Will do.

Not sure if you, or anyone has heard this song. It's called Pass The Gun Around from 1983's Da Da album. This is the last album he did before he cleaned up and then resurfaced with Constrictor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEd_lsvAzvU

I think I used it in someone's roulette. Features an awesome guitar solo from Dick Wagner.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 11, 2017, 01:41:33 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 10, 2017, 06:40:09 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2017, 05:53:00 PM
The last Alice album I listened to from start to finish is Hey Stoopid :-[

Hey Stoopid is awesome.

But even that has some suck tracks.

The lineup on that tour:

Vinnie Moore
Stef Burns
Greg Smith
Derek Sherinian
Eric Singer

:metal :metal

Brent, give Eyes a listen. (you probably have..)

Vinnie didn't make it to the uk leg. I was so gutted that it ruined the first half of the show 😀. No internet to find these things out in those days.

Last AC album I could even tolerate was Last Temptation. That one is pretty good. But I love From The Inside, Hey Stoopid and Trash. Not a huge old school Alice fan, though most albums had some great stuff
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2017, 10:42:07 AM: I was just listening to parts of Coopers first band album, Pretties for You.

Not sure what the opinion of that one is, but there is a zero percent chance I would ever get into it or buy it. Way too weird and out there.
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Post by: TAC on May 11, 2017, 05:50:16 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 11, 2017, 10:42:07 AM
I was just listening to parts of Coopers first band album, Pretties for You.

Not sure what the opinion of that one is, but there is a zero percent chance I would ever get into it or buy it. Way too weird and out there.

So Pretties For You and Easy Action are the first two albums. They were made on Frank Zappa's label.

After those, they were picked up by Warner Brothers, hooked up with Bob Ezrin and released the 5 "Classic" Alice Cooper Band albums:

Love It To Death '71
Killer '71
School's Out '72
Billion Dollar Babies '73
Muscle Of Love '74

Ezrin did not do Muscle. But Alice did regroup with Ezrin for his first solo album, Welcome To My Nightmare.

Pretties and Easy are basically just noise to me. They are almost unlistenable. Love It To Death is so much better. Obviously it gave us Eighteen, Is It My Body and the great Ballad Of Dwight Frye.

To me, Killer and School's Out are the two "must haves" of the bunch. If all you know of School's Out is the title track, you're missing out on a great album. And Killer has three epics..Dead Babies, Killer, and the world's first Progressive Metal song, Halo Of Flies.
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Post by: TAC on May 11, 2017, 06:16:30 PM: ...and I would also like to add that the original Alice Cooper Band is the most underrated American rock band going. I mean, yeah, you hear Eighteen and School's Out on Classic Rock Radio. Maybe even No More Mr. Nice Guy.

But the deep tracks on those albums are breathtaking and incredible.

Oh, and @ Jason..I did give Along Came A Spider a spin today, and as usual, I found my self skipping into the next track halfway though the current one. That album blows. Musically it sucks. He does have some pretty obscure albums music wise, but you could always count on Alice's wit and character to shine through. Spider has none of that. It's not funny or witty. The subject matter, well I'm surprised Alice made this album TBH. Being born again, there are songs from his catalogue that he's said he won't perform. I'm shocked he made an album like Spider lyric wise. This album has nothing to offer. The only ..um redeeming track is Salvation.

Not counting Pretties and Easy, this is my least favorite Alice album. At least Dragontown gave us The Triggerman and Disgracedland.
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Post by: Samsara on May 12, 2017, 12:42:21 PM: Along Came a Spider was sadly one of the most disappointing albums to me of that year. It was a release day purchase, and it just...it wasn't good. It certainly didn't resonate with me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2017, 12:46:22 PM: If Tim says that an Alice Cooper album blows, thats 100% the final verdict.
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2017, 02:58:26 PM: I was never that big into Alice. I only own a couple of his albums, but Hey Stoopid, Trash and Brutal Planet are three I really like.
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2017, 03:10:55 PM: Primal Fear - The End is Near live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZCHe3_y3AE

Nice performance.
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Post by: TAC on May 12, 2017, 03:16:56 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 12, 2017, 12:46:22 PM
If Tim says that an Alice Cooper album blows, thats 100% the final verdict.

So as much as I love Alice, he's had a tough last 20 years, album wise.

Looking at his last 6 albums since 1994's Last Temptation (which is very good, BTW)

Brutal Planet ('00) I love half of it, hate the other half. Real modern style heavy.
Dragontown ('01) Was my least favorite studio album by Alice until Spider. Same style as Brutal Planet. One Great tune (The Triggerman!)
The Eyes Of Alice Cooper ('03) This is a MUST HAVE. Total garage band sound.
Dirty Diamonds ('05) I enjoy most of this album quite a bit. I wouldn't recommend anything from it to a new fan. I think it's for Alice fans only.
Along Came A Spider ('08) BLOWS!
Welcome 2 My Nightmare ('11) SUCKS! Very disappointing.

So with all that said, you never know what you're going to get from the new Alice album. I have fairly low expectations, but if it was awesome, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Quote from: wolfking on May 12, 2017, 02:58:26 PM
I was never that big into Alice. I only own a couple of his albums, but Hey Stoopid, Trash and Brutal Planet are three I really like.

One great, one very good, and one so-so. I can totally see you liking Brutal Planet. Not sure if you've given Dragontown a listen. But glad there's something you can enjoy from him.
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2017, 03:32:13 PM: So obvioulsy my cd buying compulsion over the years has been a blur at times. I just checked my cd log and I actually own;

A Fistful of Alice
Along Came a Spider
Billion Dollar Babies
Dirty Diamonds
Dragontown
Hey Stoopid
Killer
Schools Out
The Definitive
Trash
Welcome 2 My Nightmare

And some really old dodgy compilation thing.

Wow, I should go back and have a listen to these.
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Post by: TAC on May 12, 2017, 03:38:47 PM: How do you not have Raise Your Fist And Yell?

You do know he has a hunky bass player on it, right?

:neverusethis:
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Post by: TAC on May 12, 2017, 03:41:22 PM: (https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/accepttheriseofchaoscd.jpg)

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2017, 04:05:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 12, 2017, 03:38:47 PM
How do you not have Raise Your Fist And Yell?

You do know he has a hunky bass player on it, right?

:neverusethis:

Of course. Don't own either that one or Constrictor. Shame on me, Kip would feel betrayed.

I have The Nightmare Returns DVD though, so I can see him which is what matters. :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2017, 04:22:54 PM: That's a very cool album cover from Accept! That album is guarenteed to rule!

I remember buying and trying to get into Welcome 2 My Nightmare, but it just wasn't happening. I remember there being a disco type song on there and a couple of others that left me scratching my head. The song "under my bed" stood out to me as being pretty good, but not much else. I would rank the album as a whole as blow worthy for sure.

Kade, go to Amazon and put Raise Your Fist and Yell and Constrictor in your basket.
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Post by: TAC on May 12, 2017, 04:31:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 12, 2017, 04:05:29 PM
I have The Nightmare Returns DVD though,

So that very show was what got me into Alice to begin with. I remember MTV playing that around Halloween, and I was hooked. Saw him a few weeks later and it might be the single coolest concert experience I've ever had. I did a deep dive on his discog right after and that was that.
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2017, 05:33:05 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 12, 2017, 04:22:54 PM
Kade, go to Amazon and put Raise Your Fist and Yell and Constrictor in your basket.

haha, righto mate, I'll have a listen for sure.

That Accept album cover is fantastic.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2017, 07:03:17 PM: I can honestly say I don't own a single Alice Cooper album.
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Post by: TAC on May 12, 2017, 07:04:12 PM: The wuss thread is that-a-way!
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Post by: Imaginos on May 12, 2017, 09:56:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 10, 2017, 08:45:16 PM
Will do.

Not sure if you, or anyone has heard this song. It's called Pass The Gun Around from 1983's Da Da album. This is the last album he did before he cleaned up and then resurfaced with Constrictor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEd_lsvAzvU

I think I used it in someone's roulette. Features an awesome guitar solo from Dick Wagner.

I actually love Dada. It's such a unique album and definitely the scariest album he ever made. Its gotten me really interested in the rest of his early 80s albums, so far the only other one I have is Flush The Fashion which I also enjoy quite a bit.

Regarding Pretties for You and Easy Action, I'm not too familiar with them, but Beautiful Flyaway is a pretty cool song (and it features Michael Bruce on vocals, which is kinda cool).
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Post by: Lowdz on May 13, 2017, 02:16:38 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 12, 2017, 07:03:17 PM
I can honestly say I don't own a single Alice Cooper album.

Try Hey Stoopid. I usually miss out the title track but there is a high great track quotient. Great production too.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 13, 2017, 02:18:29 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 12, 2017, 04:31:46 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 12, 2017, 04:05:29 PM
I have The Nightmare Returns DVD though,

So that very show was what got me into Alice to begin with. I remember MTV playing that around Halloween, and I was hooked. Saw him a few weeks later and it might be the single coolest concert experience I've ever had. I did a deep dive on his discog right after and that was that.

I had that on VHS. Great show. Great band.
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2017, 05:16:00 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 13, 2017, 02:16:38 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 12, 2017, 07:03:17 PM
I can honestly say I don't own a single Alice Cooper album.

Try Hey Stoopid.

Ah...the irony. ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2017, 06:49:38 AM: :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 13, 2017, 08:31:16 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 13, 2017, 05:16:00 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on May 13, 2017, 02:16:38 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 12, 2017, 07:03:17 PM
I can honestly say I don't own a single Alice Cooper album.

Try Hey Stoopid.

Ah...the irony. ;D

Well, the Jerk Store called, and they said you're ironic.

:|
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Post by: TAC on May 13, 2017, 04:37:24 PM: Quote from: Imaginos on May 12, 2017, 09:56:05 PM
I actually love Dada. It's such a unique album and definitely the scariest album he ever made. Its gotten me really interested in the rest of his early 80s albums, so far the only other one I have is Flush The Fashion which I also enjoy quite a bit.

Flush The Fashion is mostly awesome. Headlines, Pain, Model Citizen. And of course (We're All) Clones.

I love Zipper Catches Skin and would recommend that for you. The other of this 4 obscure group is Special Forces, which I think is fairly weak.

If you like Dada and have a free hour, check this podcast out:

https://dbgeekshow.blogspot.com/2014/04/albums-unleashed-dada-wdick-wagner-ep.html

It's an hour of Dick Wagner talking about the making of Dada. Lots of great stories. Basically both Alice and Ezrin were pretty fried during this period.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2017, 10:36:04 PM: Dick Wanger - I think I've seen some of his movies :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on May 14, 2017, 02:45:36 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 13, 2017, 10:36:04 PM
Dick Wanger - I think I've seen some of his movies :metal

I really used to think that was his name 😀
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Post by: TAC on May 14, 2017, 05:54:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 13, 2017, 10:36:04 PM
Dick Wanger - I think I've seen some of his movies :metal

Yeah, you might say you know them by hand. ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 14, 2017, 03:17:23 PM: :lol
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Post by: Grappler on May 15, 2017, 01:45:16 PM: Going to see Armored Saint on Thursday night. I've been a casual fan, owning only Symbol of Salvation until last fall, when I was urged to check out Win Hands Down and fell in love with it. Just picked up March of the Saint and Carpe Noctum over the weekend, along with my ticket. $18 to see them play in a very tiny suburban club.

March of the Saint and Can U Deliver are killer songs, but the rest of that album sounds incredibly cheesy, even to my 80's/traditional metal loving ears. I'm expecting those older sounds to sound a little more beefed-up in the live setting.

Either way, it will be my first time seeing John Bush sing. :metal
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Post by: TAC on May 15, 2017, 02:50:44 PM: I got March Of The Saint when it came out. I remember thinking that the singer has a cool voice, but I just couldn't get into it. Plus the armor! :facepalm:

I ended up ignoring the Delirious Nomad release.

Long story short, I went to the Grim Reaper, Armored Saint, Helloween show in 1987. Went there to see Helloween, but decided to hang around and watch "a couple songs" from Armored Saint. They BLEW ME AWAY!

Grap, you must get Raising Fear! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 15, 2017, 09:50:00 PM: In about 2000, I bought March of the Saint without hearing a note from it or even previously knowing about the band. I bought it based on the album cover and the armor lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2017, 09:58:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 15, 2017, 02:50:44 PM
Armored Saint. They BLEW

I don't believe you.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2017, 03:21:41 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 15, 2017, 09:58:09 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 15, 2017, 02:50:44 PM
Armored Saint. They BLEW

I don't believe you.

lol that is the most mind boggling Tim quote of all time
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Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2017, 01:04:49 PM: For the shred fans, the new Andy James album is a cracker. And available for a pittance on Bandcamp.

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1238816717_10.jpg)

https://andyjamesuk.bandcamp.com/album/exodus
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Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2017, 01:23:25 PM: Didn't know footage was shot for a movie of Crimson Idol. Not sure how I feel about it but will give it a go. I hope the original version of the album is available on the blu ray too.

https://youtu.be/_JXa5uGR05s
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Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2017, 03:00:08 PM: New Ferrymen song. I like it but there are a couple of lines in the verse that sound like the Tolkki Avalon song that had Elise Ryd on it, looking very gorgeous in the video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=jjW5tE7cMfk
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Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2017, 03:08:06 PM: Sorry, post overload but you blokes must be asleep or something 😀
Just watched the new John video. Really wish I hadn't as I just can't wAtch him sing. He looks like he needs a good shit. I was quite enjoying the song until the chorus came and it sounded weird, as though he was singing slower than the music was playing. I would have preferred the chorus to keep the pace going. Maybe he gets out of breath on the quicker songs. He's not used to it. He needed a breather by the time the chorus came around. 😀
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Post by: TAC on May 17, 2017, 03:22:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 17, 2017, 03:08:06 PM
Sorry, post overload but you blokes must be asleep or something 😀

A little after 5PM on the East Coast. Just made dinner for the kiddos.

I like The Ferryman song. I'm getting that for sure.

Never heard of Andy James.

Never heard of John either.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 17, 2017, 05:02:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 17, 2017, 03:22:17 PM

Never heard of John either.

kingshmeglowdz strikes again. Taking a shit = Jorn ;D

I have the Andy James but like dozens of others from 2017 just haven't had time. Too much shit going on atm -not keeping up anywhere near as well as 2016 unfortunately.
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:11:38 PM: I'll definitely check that Andy James. His stuff is pretty one dimensional, but is always great shred.

The Ferrymen is sounding like a solid outing. Karlsson not breaking his back though in the songwriting department, or coming up with an original solo. I hear a lot of the Showdown type stuff going on in this song too. I hear that Tolkki song reference too.

Agree with Paul about the chorus in that John song. It just didn't really fit IMO either. Looking forward to checking out the rest of the album though.

Not sure what I think about The Crimson Idol redo also. It's such a classic and hope Blackie doesn't ruin it.
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Post by: TAC on May 17, 2017, 07:14:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:11:38 PM
Karlsson not breaking his back though in the songwriting department,

Kade, not trying to be an ass, but what would you consider the last great thing he's done? Honestly, I struggle to connect to Primal Fear. It may be a Sheepers thing, though.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 17, 2017, 07:23:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:11:38 PM

Agree with Paul about the chorus in that John song.

kingshmeglowdz and wolfkingshmegland :lol

Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:11:38 PM
I hear that Tolkki song reference too.

So things are going that well now that we have Tolkki (who was slammed for his Allen/Lande stuff) being used for inspiration by Magnus :rollin
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Post by: TAC on May 17, 2017, 07:31:40 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 17, 2017, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:11:38 PM

Agree with Paul about the chorus in that John song.

kingshmeglowdz and wolfkingshmegland :lol

:rollin
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:32:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 17, 2017, 07:14:26 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:11:38 PM
Karlsson not breaking his back though in the songwriting department,

Kade, not trying to be an ass, but what would you consider the last great thing he's done? Honestly, I struggle to connect to Primal Fear. It may be a Sheepers thing, though.

Not sure why I would take offense to that question Tim.

As most know, I love the guy and adore pretty much everything he has done. Have followed him since the first Starbreaker and I've been hooked. Something about his songwriting and guitar playing just do it for me.

I guess when you have spread yourself so thin, I can see over time what that can do. His structures, riffs, solos are getting just a bit more generic over time compared to the brilliance he was doing in last Tribe and Allen/Lande. I felt his songwriting in those projects were very creative, compared to what he does now. Which isn't a bad thing really with the more you do, maybe it's me though, and I feel I have the right to be overly critical for some reason.

What he has been doing in Primal Fear I've really enjoyed and he's been able to do some different sort of songwriting which has been brilliant the last two albums. His two Freefall albums are fantastic too, which you might enjoy.

Starbreaker, Codex, Allen/Lande, Last Tribe, Tony O'Hora, Freefall, Planet Alliance, all excellent stuff. The only thing I'd really say that was pretty below par for his standard was the second Kiske/Sommerville album. It was decent but not his best.

Saying that, I've listened to this song again, and yeah, it's solid, and the first song released I'd say is one of the coolest things he's done for a while, I really like that one. Don't get me wrong, really looking forward to this release.
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:34:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 17, 2017, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:11:38 PM

Agree with Paul about the chorus in that John song.

kingshmeglowdz and wolfkingshmegland :lol

Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:11:38 PM
I hear that Tolkki song reference too.

So things are going that well now that we have Tolkki (who was slammed for his Allen/Lande stuff) being used for inspiration by Magnus :rollin

I did do that on purpose, but you got that Brent. :blush

I wouldn't have heard the Tolkki reference unless Paul mentioned it, but yeah, that does sound pretty bad come to think of it. :lol
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Post by: TAC on May 17, 2017, 07:35:57 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:32:21 PM

Starbreaker, Codex, Allen/Lande, Last Tribe, Tony O'Hora, Freefall, Planet Alliance, all excellent stuff.

Did he do the first Kiske/Somerville album. That was decent. Everything I heard from the 2nd blew.

Can't really do Allen/Lande. Don't really connect with either guy.

I'll look into Starbreaker and Codex, and some of the others.

Cool. :tup
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:46:38 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 17, 2017, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:32:21 PM

Starbreaker, Codex, Allen/Lande, Last Tribe, Tony O'Hora, Freefall, Planet Alliance, all excellent stuff.

Did he do the first Kiske/Somerville album. That was decent. Everything I heard from the 2nd blew.

Can't really do Allen/Lande. Don't really connect with either guy.

I'll look into Starbreaker and Codex, and some of the others.

Cool. :tup

Yeah, he did about 75% of the songs from the first Kiske/Sommerville. If Allen/Lande didn't work maybe check the first Starbreaker, that has Tony Harnell. Planet Alliance has a mix of artists but has Mike Andersson on vocals, Magnus contributes about half of that one.

Codex wasn't rated as high when it came out, it has Mark Boals but not sure if you'll dig that one. Last Tribe is wonderful power metal, just brilliant.
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Post by: TAC on May 17, 2017, 07:48:03 PM: I like Mark Boals. Will do. Thanks bro!
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Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2017, 06:37:10 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 17, 2017, 07:48:03 PM
I like Mark Boals. Will do. Thanks bro!

I like that album, but I feel Magnus missed a few opportunities with that one. It almost feels like he wrote the songs before he even knew who the singer was going to be.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 18, 2017, 02:35:58 PM: There's the Bob Catley album he did too, that was pretty good. Spell checked and I think I got away ok with that sentence :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2017, 04:46:21 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 18, 2017, 02:35:58 PM
There's the Bob Catley album he did too, that was pretty good. Spell checked and I think I got away ok with that sentence :biggrin:

Yeah, I missed that one, probably becuase he wrote the album but didn't play on it, besides lead guitar on one song. That's a really nice album too. The songs worked well for Bob IMO.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2017, 02:16:57 AM: A new show is in the works for you dudes and should be done by end May. Songs are all in and just need to adjust/mix and do intros. I've decided to put together a short (3hr) show so you guys don't get withdrawals from the metal after the last hard rock focused show. It'll be mostly on the metal side - plenty of classics , a couple of classic rarities , a rare feature artist etc........ should be a goodun :metal
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Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2017, 06:42:56 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 19, 2017, 02:16:57 AM
A new show is in the works for you dudes and should be done by end May. Songs are all in and just need to adjust/mix and do intros. I've decided to put together a short (3hr) show so you guys don't get withdrawals from the metal after the last hard rock focused show. It'll be mostly on the metal side - plenty of classics , a couple of classic rarities , a rare feature artist etc........ should be a goodun :metal

:hefdaddy BRING....IT....ON!!
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Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2017, 06:43:21 AM: Anotehr new Dream Evil track. I really like this one, nice and melodic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXS3XIOsuPk
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Post by: Grappler on May 19, 2017, 07:38:44 AM: So I saw Armored Saint last night. My neck is killing me, and I'm way short on sleep, but it was worth all $18 of the ticket price. :) 15 song headlining set in a very small club. I'd estimate no more than 150 people were there. John Bush was incredible, and such a cool guy. Very appreciative of the club's roadie as he had microphone issues for a few songs. I had a spot dead center in the second row, behind a group of super fans that were completely raging all night. The guitarists were so much fun, hamming it up to everyone in front. Joey Vera is a beast - got a fist bump from him after the show.

Win Hands Down
March of the Saint
Nervous Man
An Exercise in Debauchery
Control Issues
In an Instant (Dedicated to Chris Cornell)
Last Train Home
Symbol of Salvation
Long Before I Die
Mess
Aftermath
Left Hook From Right Field
Reign of Fire
Can U Deliver
Lesson Well Learned

Looks like I need to go back and get Delerious Nomad and Revelation (Control Issues was awesome live). I went ballistic during Last Train Home. Such a great chorus and I love the riff/breakdown after the second chorus. Also pleased to hear the title track from Symbol of Salvation, giving us 3 songs from that album. 4 from Win Hands Down and 3 from Nomad.

(https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18519691_10213401777823622_2030425691211525942_n.jpg?oh=79a75ba87cb6a3476b78619f6dc53384&oe=597431F7)
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Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2017, 08:22:44 AM: Awesome Grappler...............awesome price too. If Armored Saint came out here the beers would be $18.
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Post by: Grappler on May 19, 2017, 08:27:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 19, 2017, 08:22:44 AM
Awesome Grappler...............awesome price too. If Armored Saint came out here the beers would be $18.

:rollin

The major concert venues in the city charge those prices. The Rave in Milwaukee is 25 miles north, in the city proper. A 12 oz can (CAN!) of domestic beer is $9 there. That is just awful.

This was at a small, suburban sports bar/restaurant/music venue. $4.50 for a 12 oz draft. I can handle that cost much easier, along with the ticket price. :) The downside is that the crowd is smaller, so the promotor likely loses money on those shows. I did my duty - bought a ticket, bought a shirt and rocked the hell out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 19, 2017, 09:44:15 AM: That set list that Grappler posted should have been the full set list on their latest live album. Cool set!
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Post by: TAC on May 19, 2017, 03:02:47 PM: To me, the highlight of every Armored Saint show is when they hit the first chord to Nervous Man, and it just sits there.

I got a picture of John Bush too!
I've posted it before.

The Living Room, Providence, 1988.

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/JB.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/JB.jpg.html)

And about 10 minutes before that pic was taken, I took this one. John Bush was on top of the speakers at the ceiling. They were playing NIB when I took this.

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/JB1.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/JB1.jpg.html)
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 19, 2017, 03:20:49 PM: Doesn't look very safe, but still a very cool picture!
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Post by: TAC on May 20, 2017, 08:05:33 PM: @ Brent!
https://bravewords.com/news/runnin-with-the-devil-book-about-the-making-of-van-halen-due-out-in-june
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 04:22:41 AM: I think if Van Halen goes back on the road, the only option is to bring both David and Sammy and have them both sing for the band. Just like Helloween is doing. That's the only way to rejuvenate and have interest in what they are doing IMO. And of course Michael has to brought back as well.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2017, 06:52:36 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2017, 08:05:33 PM
@ Brent!
https://bravewords.com/news/runnin-with-the-devil-book-about-the-making-of-van-halen-due-out-in-june

Looks like a good companion to "Van Halen Rising" which I have had for ages and not read (meant to be great) .
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0719/2207/products/9781770412637_1024x1024.jpeg?v=1479932313)

That one covers the pre-1978 period.

Quote from: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 04:22:41 AM
I think if Van Halen goes back on the road, the only option is to bring both David and Sammy and have them both sing for the band. Just like Helloween is doing. That's the only way to rejuvenate and have interest in what they are doing IMO. And of course Michael has to brought back as well.

I tend to agree. Wolfie has a solo album coming soon too , so he would likely support.
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2017, 02:00:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2017, 06:52:36 AM
Wolfie has a solo album coming soon too

Fuck yeah, Kade! Can't wait!!!! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 02:37:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2017, 02:00:42 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2017, 06:52:36 AM
Wolfie has a solo album coming soon too

Fuck yeah, Kade! Can't wait!!!! :metal

Finally!! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 03:58:08 PM: Speaking of guitar virtuosos, does anyone have a good chunk of Joe Satriani's discography? He would probably be my favourite guitar instrumentalist but I only have a 2 disc best of along with Surfing with the Alien.

I was looking at his box set which had all of the studio albums, but just wondering if there are any of his albums which are considered duds or subpar?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2017, 05:13:15 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 03:58:08 PM
Speaking of guitar virtuosos, does anyone have a good chunk of Joe Satriani's discography? He would probably be my favourite guitar instrumentalist but I only have a 2 disc best of along with Surfing with the Alien.

I was looking at his box set which had all of the studio albums, but just wondering if there are any of his albums which are considered duds or subpar?

I was a big fan but haven't bothered much since the mid 90's as he lost a lot of the consistency and has also backed off on the rock a fair bit too. If it was me I would just get Flying In A Blue Dream and The Extremist and you have most of his best stuff there. I thought the s/t in 1995 was a massive disappointment and from there I gave him another chance with Crystal Planet - big improvement with a few great tracks (out of 15) . I have a few of his post 2000 albums but don't go back to them. Shockwave Supernova was strong for what it is , but it's more atmospheric relaxing music than hard rock IMO.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 05:46:19 PM: The song Flying in a Blue Dream is probably my favourite song off the best of. I've heard that was one of his best albums.
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Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2017, 06:06:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2017, 02:00:42 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2017, 06:52:36 AM
Wolfie has a solo album coming soon too

Fuck yeah, Kade! Can't wait!!!! :metal

I thought I kept this shit a secret, who leaked this. Oh that's right, it's Brent, nothing gets past that motherfucker!! :metal
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2017, 06:30:36 PM: Great! I thought we were going to have to wait for Brent to get to the W's!! I haven't even finished the last podcast! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2017, 06:32:55 PM: Don't worry Tim - there'll be plenty for you in the W's :rollin
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2017, 06:34:26 PM: :facepalm:
:rollin

I bet!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 07:00:52 PM: :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 05:58:06 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2017, 06:30:36 PM
Great! I thought we were going to have to wait for Brent to get to the W's!! I haven't even finished the last podcast! :lol

There's only 1 fucking W you need to know!!!!!!!
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 06:04:05 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 03:58:08 PM
Speaking of guitar virtuosos, does anyone have a good chunk of Joe Satriani's discography? He would probably be my favourite guitar instrumentalist but I only have a 2 disc best of along with Surfing with the Alien.

I was looking at his box set which had all of the studio albums, but just wondering if there are any of his albums which are considered duds or subpar?

Brent covered pretty much everything Jason. Flying in a Blue Dream is a classic, but be warned the guy can't sing. The Extremist is another must have. Crystal Planet is actually my favourite to be honest. I love a lot of the darker undertones of the album. Songs like Up In the Sky, title track, Time, Ceremony have wonderful more metal melodies if you will with some great grooves and atmopheres. There's a little filler and it could have been cut, but I love it.

I kept up with him up until Super Colossal, I didn't dig that one and even though I bought everything else after that, nothing really stuck. I think everything up to and including Crystal Planet is worthwhile, that includes the self titled and the underrated Time Machine. Engines of Creation was a departure with heavy electronic elements but I actually really rate the two after that, Strange Beautiful Music and Is There Love in Space. The latter I really enjoyed.
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 06:11:40 AM: Shit, I forgot all about The Unity, which has Henjo Richter. The album was suppose to come out at the start of the month and I liked what I heard. Have to see if I can track it down.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2017, 09:42:26 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 06:04:05 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 03:58:08 PM
Speaking of guitar virtuosos, does anyone have a good chunk of Joe Satriani's discography? He would probably be my favourite guitar instrumentalist but I only have a 2 disc best of along with Surfing with the Alien.

I was looking at his box set which had all of the studio albums, but just wondering if there are any of his albums which are considered duds or subpar?

Brent covered pretty much everything Jason. Flying in a Blue Dream is a classic, but be warned the guy can't sing. The Extremist is another must have. Crystal Planet is actually my favourite to be honest. I love a lot of the darker undertones of the album. Songs like Up In the Sky, title track, Time, Ceremony have wonderful more metal melodies if you will with some great grooves and atmopheres. There's a little filler and it could have been cut, but I love it.

I kept up with him up until Super Colossal, I didn't dig that one and even though I bought everything else after that, nothing really stuck. I think everything up to and including Crystal Planet is worthwhile, that includes the self titled and the underrated Time Machine. Engines of Creation was a departure with heavy electronic elements but I actually really rate the two after that, Strange Beautiful Music and Is There Love in Space. The latter I really enjoyed.

Copy. Thanks guys.
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Post by: Stadler on May 22, 2017, 10:05:00 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 04:22:41 AM
I think if Van Halen goes back on the road, the only option is to bring both David and Sammy and have them both sing for the band. Just like Helloween is doing. That's the only way to rejuvenate and have interest in what they are doing IMO. And of course Michael has to brought back as well.

Is that based on some news, or just what you'd prefer?

I know for me, I like Mike and all - I have a new appreciation for him after Chickenfoot - but I don't think his loss is as crippling as some people make it out to be. It's not like Wolfie blows. And as for having both Sam and Dave? I think that would be more train wreck than anything else. If it is even half as good as ADKOT, I'm all for another album of original VH material, as curated by Wolfgang. I don't have any problem with that incarnation of VH at all.
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Post by: Grappler on May 22, 2017, 10:38:47 AM: Quote from: Stadler on May 22, 2017, 10:05:00 AM
Is that based on some news, or just what you'd prefer?

Sammy and Michael Anthony have talked about the idea - that the only way they'd really rejoin the band is if a tour happened where both singers were featured. But I believe that's all it is - just talk.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sammy-hagar-would-only-reunite-with-van-halen-if-david-lee-roth-was-also-involved/
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/michael-anthony-says-van-halen-tour-featuring-both-david-lee-roth-and-sammy-hagar-would-not-leave-fans-disappointed/
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2017, 11:30:12 AM: Quote from: Stadler on May 22, 2017, 10:05:00 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 04:22:41 AM
I think if Van Halen goes back on the road, the only option is to bring both David and Sammy and have them both sing for the band. Just like Helloween is doing. That's the only way to rejuvenate and have interest in what they are doing IMO. And of course Michael has to brought back as well.

Is that based on some news, or just what you'd prefer?

I know for me, I like Mike and all - I have a new appreciation for him after Chickenfoot - but I don't think his loss is as crippling as some people make it out to be. It's not like Wolfie blows. And as for having both Sam and Dave? I think that would be more train wreck than anything else. If it is even half as good as ADKOT, I'm all for another album of original VH material, as curated by Wolfgang. I don't have any problem with that incarnation of VH at all.

Just a preference. I just think that's the best option for the band at this point.
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Post by: Grappler on May 22, 2017, 12:21:48 PM: So Armored Saint played 3 shows last weekend. I saw the first. This is the set for the second, edited to show the song changes. I love that they changed 5 out of 15 songs, even though one of the new ones from WHD was replaced by an older song. A particular band that Saint just toured with should take note of this for creating headlining sets. ;)

I don't know what they played in Chicago on Saturday night, but I'd expect it to be similar to these two sets. Very cool to see them not going out and playing 3 identical shows, even though the distance between the 3 shows is quite a number of miles apart (Northern WI, Milwaukee area, Chicago). There were fans at the first show that were talking about seeing all 3, so they got their money's worth.

Win Hands Down
March of the Saint
Nervous Man
~~An Exercise in Debauchery~~ That Was Then, Way Back When
~~Control Issues~~ After Me, The Flood
In an Instant
Last Train Home
Symbol of Salvation
~~Long Before I Die~~ Stricken By Fate
~~Mess~~ Chemical Euphoria
Aftermath
Left Hook From Right Field
Reign of Fire
Can U Deliver
~~Lesson Well Learned~~ Madhouse
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Post by: Lowdz on May 22, 2017, 12:53:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 21, 2017, 05:46:19 PM
The song Flying in a Blue Dream is probably my favourite song off the best of. I've heard that was one of his best albums.

I have all of his albums but I'd agree with Brent, unless you really love what you've heard. I can put any of his albums on and enjoy them, but some are certainly less great than others.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 22, 2017, 01:44:26 PM: New Mr Big song. I like the song. The riff is awesome. The mix is shit. I never thought I'd say it but bring back Kevin Shirley.
https://youtu.be/JZrzHvH7Jd4
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2017, 02:06:57 PM: much better than I expected
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Post by: Samsara on May 22, 2017, 02:17:46 PM: Quote from: Grappler on May 22, 2017, 12:21:48 PM
So Armored Saint played 3 shows last weekend. I saw the first. This is the set for the second, edited to show the song changes. I love that they changed 5 out of 15 songs, even though one of the new ones from WHD was replaced by an older song. A particular band that Saint just toured with should take note of this for creating headlining sets. ;)

I don't know what they played in Chicago on Saturday night, but I'd expect it to be similar to these two sets. Very cool to see them not going out and playing 3 identical shows, even though the distance between the 3 shows is quite a number of miles apart (Northern WI, Milwaukee area, Chicago). There were fans at the first show that were talking about seeing all 3, so they got their money's worth.

Win Hands Down
March of the Saint
Nervous Man
~~An Exercise in Debauchery~~ That Was Then, Way Back When
~~Control Issues~~ After Me, The Flood
In an Instant
Last Train Home
Symbol of Salvation
~~Long Before I Die~~ Stricken By Fate
~~Mess~~ Chemical Euphoria
Aftermath
Left Hook From Right Field
Reign of Fire
Can U Deliver
~~Lesson Well Learned~~ Madhouse

That's really cool. Glad you had a good time. Saint is one of my favorite bands. Really love the latest record. It is probably my second favorite (with Symbol being first). As for changing up tracks, I agree. Ironically, however, when I pointed that out, I got criticized for being negative, yet when some others say it, it's OK. :lol ;)

Anyway, Saint always kicks ass, and John Bush has been sounding great. I saw them twice on the latest record, opening for Saxon, and then opening for Queensryche. Both were excellent.
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 04:12:32 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 22, 2017, 01:44:26 PM
New Mr Big song. I like the song. The riff is awesome. The mix is shit. I never thought I'd say it but bring back Kevin Shirley.
https://youtu.be/JZrzHvH7Jd4

Fuck me this sounds so fucking bad.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2017, 04:20:07 PM: Thanks for the warning guys. I was super unimpressed with their last album, and wasn't even luke warm about the prospects of this one.

So.... NEXT!
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 04:24:10 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 22, 2017, 04:20:07 PM
Thanks for the warning guys. I was super unimpressed with their last album, and wasn't even luke warm about the prospects of this one.

So.... NEXT!

I thought the last one was bad too. Things song sounds a bit of a step up, but not doing it for me, especially with the mixing, awful.
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Post by: TAC on May 22, 2017, 07:54:14 PM: They should be called Mr. Small. Such disappointing product.
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 07:55:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 22, 2017, 07:54:14 PM
They should be called Mr. Small. Such disappointing product.

Nice.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 22, 2017, 09:05:49 PM: Tim only has to think back to that poster on his bedroom wall to know who the real Mr Big is. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 09:10:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 22, 2017, 09:05:49 PM
Tim only has to think back to that poster on his bedroom wall to know who the real Mr Big is. :metal

Oh boy, are you giving me another opportunity to post THAT pic?
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2017, 09:14:22 PM: #impatientlywaiting
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 09:16:49 PM: Just for you Tim!!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/87/25/81/872581e71cc7facbfffa926e44fdb1a4.jpg)

:heart :heart :heart

EDIT: Fuck yes, top of the page!!!

DIT 2: Hunk of the month, get out of here, try century!!!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2017, 09:23:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 09:16:49 PM
EDIT: Fuck yes, top of the page!!!

That was my first thought too! It's gonna be here for our viewing pleasure until the end of the month no doubt!
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 09:37:41 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 22, 2017, 09:23:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 09:16:49 PM
EDIT: Fuck yes, top of the page!!!

That was my first thought too! It's gonna be here for our viewing pleasure until the end of the month no doubt!

I'm sure Tim will have a lot to say about lots of different hard rock for the next few days! :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on May 23, 2017, 03:24:51 AM: Tim might actually be as ha..... never mind ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 23, 2017, 11:05:05 AM: lol, always the Kipster
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Post by: Lowdz on May 23, 2017, 01:09:24 PM: Oh dear. New project on Frontiers. The words "brainchild of Alessandro Del Vecchio and Serafino " fill me with dread.

Kryptonite

https://melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2017/05/23/kryptonite-debut-joins-members-poodles-treat-palace#.WSQZ-z-KLSk.facebook

Well, it will probably be Kryptonite to me...
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2017, 06:16:25 PM: (https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/young-man-rests-with-bandaged-eyes-after-having-been-injured-during-picture-id554949157)
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Post by: Lowdz on May 24, 2017, 01:36:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 23, 2017, 06:16:25 PM
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/young-man-rests-with-bandaged-eyes-after-having-been-injured-during-picture-id554949157)

Blinded yourself and yet the hand is reaching out for... something...
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 04:04:29 PM: What do you guys think of this?
https://bravewords.com/news/graham-bonnet-band-release-jet-to-jet-video-from-upcoming-live-here-comes-the-night-release

Some awesome tunes. And Mark Zonder.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 04:43:49 PM: I think Desert Song might be my favourite song that Graham Bonnet sang.
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 04:53:46 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 04:43:49 PM
Either that or Looking for Love.
The Schenker tune?
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 04:54:49 PM: I had just changed the post, I got him mixed up with Gary for that one
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 06:05:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 04:54:49 PM
I had just changed the post, I got him mixed up with Gary for that one

Looking For Love is awesome. Schenker's outro :hefdaddy

My favorite Bonnet sung song is probably Lost In Hollywood.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 06:29:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 24, 2017, 06:05:48 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 04:54:49 PM
I had just changed the post, I got him mixed up with Gary for that one

Looking For Love is awesome. Schenker's outro :hefdaddy

My favorite Bonnet sung song is probably Lost In Hollywood.

What is your favorite MSG song overall? That would be a toss up between Looking for Love and Desert Song for me.
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Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 06:30:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 24, 2017, 04:04:29 PM
What do you guys think of this?
https://bravewords.com/news/graham-bonnet-band-release-jet-to-jet-video-from-upcoming-live-here-comes-the-night-release

Some awesome tunes. And Mark Zonder.

Didn't like the guitarist at all here. Zonder is a beast.
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 06:37:47 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 06:29:14 PM
What is your favorite MSG song overall? That would be a toss up between Looking for Love and Desert Song for me.

My Top 5 MSG tracks:
1. On And On
2. Lost Horizons
3. Looking For Love
4. Attack Of The Mad Axeman
5. Red Skies
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 06:41:32 PM: On and On is fantastic. I know you've mentioned that the second MSG is your favorite. I will agree, the debut was excellent but the second one was even better. It seemed to be hit or miss for me after those two, with Desert Song being a big hit. But I don't think they ever touched upon those first two albums.
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 06:51:32 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 06:41:32 PM
On and On is fantastic. I know you've mentioned that the second MSG is your favorite. I will agree, the debut was excellent but the second one was even better. It seemed to be hit or miss for me after those two, with Desert Song being a big hit. But I don't think they ever touched upon those first two albums.

The second MSG is a TAC Top 5 Album of all time. Might be the most important album of my musical formation.

Honestly, I was never a huge fan of Assault Attack. But Martin Birch's production on that is incredible. If only the debut, MSG, and Built To Destroy had THAT production..
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Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 06:58:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 24, 2017, 06:51:32 PM
The second MSG is a TAC Top 5 Album of all time.

I've just put this on right now.

Brought one of those 5 pack album collections that come in the cardboard sleeves a while back but never really got around to checking them all out properly besides Assault Attack.
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 07:07:29 PM: This one?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Lc4ATB8CL._AC_US218_.jpg)

Awesome!! I see it has One Night At Budokan. That is an awesome live album. Both MSG and Budokan feature Cozy Powell.

My favorite part of On And On is actually Paul Raymond's keys throughout the entire song, especially the end.

The debut has a strange feel. Simon Phillips' drumming, while precise, just doesn't fit. Those songs are so much better on Budokan.
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Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 07:12:42 PM: Yeah, that's the one.

Just up to On and On now, that's my fav so far, cool song. This old school hard rock style isn't really my thing to be honest, but the guitar work is keeping me interested. Cozy was so good.
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 07:34:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 07:12:42 PM
Yeah, that's the one.

Just up to On and On now, that's my fav so far, cool song. This old school hard rock style isn't really my thing to be honest, but the guitar work is keeping me interested. Cozy was so good.

So Kade, that came out in 1981. That was my 8th grade year. I turned 13 in September of 1981. On And On was played on the radio from time to time, and it stopped me in my tracks every time. It was just so damned cool and different to a lot of what was on. I had a friend who was a guitar player and we jammed on that song. We were young then.

Ready To Rock, the first track is easily the weakest. The depth of Let Sleeping Dogs Lie and But I Want More is incredible. Like every song has an amazing Schenker outro.
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Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 07:39:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 24, 2017, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 07:12:42 PM
Yeah, that's the one.

Just up to On and On now, that's my fav so far, cool song. This old school hard rock style isn't really my thing to be honest, but the guitar work is keeping me interested. Cozy was so good.

So Kade, that came out in 1981. That was my 8th grade year. I turned 13 in September of 1981. On And On was played on the radio from time to time, and it stopped me in my tracks every time. It was just so damned cool and different to a lot of what was on. I had a friend who was a guitar player and we jammed on that song. We were young then.

Ready To Rock, the first track is easily the weakest. The depth of Let Sleeping Dogs Lie and But I Want More is incredible. Like every song has an amazing Schenker outro.

But I Want More is more my style, that's a cool one, and as you say, lots of depth and different things going on, which I didn't expect. Killer solo in the breakdown of this one.
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 07:42:07 PM: That's a grower. So is Let Sleeping Dogs Lie. It really sneaks up on you.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 07:54:16 PM: What was the reason that Gary left after those first two albums? Was it just an ego thing because they had great chemistry together.
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Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 08:05:44 PM: Looking for Love is fucking stellar, wonderful guitar work.
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Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 08:06:33 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 07:54:16 PM
What was the reason that Gary left after those first two albums? Was it just an ego thing because they had great chemistry together.
Honestly, I'm not sure why he changed singers. Michael was quite off in those years.

Quote from: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 08:05:44 PM
Looking for Love is fucking stellar, wonderful guitar work.

Great tune! :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 08:20:11 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 08:05:44 PM
Looking for Love is fucking stellar, wonderful guitar work.

excellent tune! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on May 25, 2017, 01:37:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 22, 2017, 09:23:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 09:16:49 PM
EDIT: Fuck yes, top of the page!!!

That was my first thought too! It's gonna be here for our viewing pleasure until the end of the month no doubt!

I'm sure Tim will have a lot to say about lots of different hard rock for the next few days! :biggrin:

Good effort by Tim - sucked all you guys in and is even linking here from the wuss thread :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2017, 05:56:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 25, 2017, 01:37:29 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 22, 2017, 09:23:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2017, 09:16:49 PM
EDIT: Fuck yes, top of the page!!!

That was my first thought too! It's gonna be here for our viewing pleasure until the end of the month no doubt!

I'm sure Tim will have a lot to say about lots of different hard rock for the next few days! :biggrin:

Good effort by Tim - sucked all you guys in and is even linking here from the wuss thread :biggrin:

Is there a rule that Kip can't make an appearance at the top of every page??
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Post by: TAC on May 25, 2017, 06:11:49 AM: I'm positive there is.

It's right in the DTF User Agreement that you have to sign when you registered.
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Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2017, 06:16:40 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 25, 2017, 06:11:49 AM
I'm positive there is.

It's right in the DTF User Agreement that you have to sign when you registered.

This place is;

(https://1.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/36/85/1abdefacd9976da636dad9fa9bcc01f8-swan-seems-legit.jpg)

But I'm sure the Agreement is coming up for review, and will fight for such clause to be included. Us Kip fanboys have rights too you know!
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Post by: TAC on May 25, 2017, 06:34:57 AM: Well if you do get it passed, that pic is going to be me in hiding.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on May 25, 2017, 04:14:11 PM: THE NIGHT FLIGHT ORCHESTRA - Something Mysterious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puLWLR28LDg)

:hat
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Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 06:47:23 AM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on May 25, 2017, 04:14:11 PM
THE NIGHT FLIGHT ORCHESTRA - Something Mysterious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puLWLR28LDg)

:hat

This is brilliant and amazing in every way. This is a perfect 80's throwback and is AOR done right, Jesus this is cool. Frontiers really should take note of this band. Love it, gotta purchase this one I think. This is a breath of fresh air IMO.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 26, 2017, 07:38:01 AM: wow, that is an 80's throwback if I've ever seen one.
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Post by: bosk1 on May 26, 2017, 07:49:14 AM: I know this is completely random and out of left field, but: Last night, for some reason I got the urge to listen to Warrant's cover of Train, Train. So I grabbed Cherry Pie and popped it in this morning on the drive in to work. On some of the songs, I was really struck by what a good songwriter and lyricist Jani Lane was. Of course, on others, I was struck by his complete lack of maturity. :lol But then again, as with a lot of bands of that era, with Warrant, you knew exactly what you were getting, so if you didn't want to hear songs about partying and chicks, best to look somewhere else. But anyhow, I just couldn't help but appreciate. Jani wasn't ever really known as a guitar player. And yet, that album is full of fairly complex (for that genre) layered guitar riffs and melodies. And he was also gifted at telling very vivid stories with fairly sparse lyrics. I mean, if you look at Uncle Tom's Cabin, I Saw Red, or Bed of Roses, none of those are lyrically dense. And yet, with relatively few words, each really takes the listener on a journey and tells a story that feels a lot longer than it is. I have to say, the man was pretty talented at his craft.
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2017, 07:51:48 AM: When I think Train Train, I think Blackfoot!

Can't say I've ever heard a Warrant album, though Uncle Tom's cabin is fantastic.
I saw Warrant twice, in both an arena and a club in '89 and they were AWESOME live.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:53:01 AM: Quote from: bosk1 on May 26, 2017, 07:49:14 AM
I know this is completely random and out of left field, but: Last night, for some reason I got the urge to listen to Warrant's cover of Train, Train. So I grabbed Cherry Pie and popped it in this morning on the drive in to work. On some of the songs, I was really struck by what a good songwriter and lyricist Jani Lane was. Of course, on others, I was struck by his complete lack of maturity. :lol But then again, as with a lot of bands of that era, with Warrant, you knew exactly what you were getting, so if you didn't want to hear songs about partying and chicks, best to look somewhere else. But anyhow, I just couldn't help but appreciate. Jani wasn't ever really known as a guitar player. And yet, that album is full of fairly complex (for that genre) layered guitar riffs and melodies. And he was also gifted at telling very vivid stories with fairly sparse lyrics. I mean, if you look at Uncle Tom's Cabin, I Saw Red, or Bed of Roses, none of those are lyrically dense. And yet, with relatively few words, each really takes the listener on a journey and tells a story that feels a lot longer than it is. I have to say, the man was pretty talented at his craft.

Agreed - didn't get enough credit as a songwriter.

Ode To Tipper Gore is fantastic too :D
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 26, 2017, 07:54:43 AM: I think Uncle Toms Cabin is one of, if not the best, song of the entire hair metal era.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2017, 10:01:22 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 26, 2017, 07:54:43 AM
I think Uncle Toms Cabin is one of, if not the best, song of the entire hair metal era.

I could probably try, but there's really not much to contest this with.
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Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 04:25:09 PM: I don't think I've ever heard a Warrant song besides Cherry Pie, true story.
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Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 04:28:18 PM: Jorn - Life on Death Road

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8QOk3xLSvg

Not too bad. You can hear Sinner and DelViccho wrote this. Alex doing his Sykes impersonation again haha. Gus G owns him though I gotta say. Solos fucking galore though, hallelujah!!
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2017, 06:53:28 PM: From the Caption Thread:

Quote from: gmillerdrake on May 26, 2017, 04:01:56 PM
(https://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/gmillerdrake/D4D34C4C-1DD5-46EB-A27D-9D70A8A54673.jpg) (https://s791.photobucket.com/user/gmillerdrake/media/D4D34C4C-1DD5-46EB-A27D-9D70A8A54673.jpg.html)

First time Kade heard Winger.
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2017, 07:03:20 PM: So, for the first time in my life, I've listened to Warrant's Cherry Pie.

They came out at a time when a million bands that looked just like them did. There was a mega rush of these bands to ride Bon Jovi's coattails.

The only tracks by them I heard were Cherry Pie and Uncle Tom's Cabin. I like UT'sC well enough but figured it was an outlier.
I've never said a bad word about Warrant because as I said, they were fantastic live. Not fantastic enough for me to get into them, but fantastic enough to earn my respect.

After listening to the album, I'll at least say it doesn't suck. Not what I would've been into back then, but it's really not as bad album, considering the shiite that came out back then.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:22:47 PM: You guys should also check out Dog Eat Dog .....one of the very few hair metal bands who managed to darken up their sound to meet the grunge era and succeeded in producing a strong effort. There's even a few really nice songs on Ultraphobic but they were moving a bit too far away from their traditional sound at that point .
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2017, 07:25:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:22:47 PM
You guys should also check out Dog Eat Dog .....
...I will.

EDIT:

Just had a quick run though. Definitely not what I expected. Very cool.

Inside Out :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:30:21 PM: Not quite as good a job at "darkening" up their image ;D

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/790102_5066c6880e2b44c690d93597951d771a~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_619,h_445/790102_5066c6880e2b44c690d93597951d771a~mv2.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2017, 07:35:04 PM: What the f'n fuck is that?? :lol

Now THAT is what I call Radiation Romeos!
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2017, 07:42:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:22:47 PM
You guys should also check out Dog Eat Dog .....one of the very few hair metal bands who managed to darken up their sound to meet the grunge era and succeeded in producing a strong effort. There's even a few really nice songs on Ultraphobic but they were moving a bit too far away from their traditional sound at that point .

Agreed... mostly. I don't consider Dog Eat Dog going dark/grungy. I consider the sound switch between Cherry Pie and Dog Eat Dog very akin to Skid Row's transition from S/T to Slave to the Grind. In both cases, they just went heavy as hell - for 'glam metal' standards. DED had everything - radio accessible tunes (despite not getting a lot of airplay), ballads, killer riffs, and some pounding rhythm.

Damn, I might just have to give it a spin right now. :2metal:
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Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:49:23 PM: I didn't say that I think Dog Eat Dog is grungy - just that they darkened/heavied up their sound (and image................fail :lol ) to adjust to the way things were changing and I would stick by that. Having said that there are some songs on DED that would fit just fine on Cherry Pie , so I get what you're saying.

Ultraphobic took it to the next more obvious level but yeah.............DED was very much like Slave To The Grind in that they were both heavier, transition albums into a more overtly dark/grungy tone that still managed to hold on to the better qualities of their earlier , more radio friendly material.
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2017, 07:52:34 PM: 1992 was such a strange time in metal. Dream Theater really rescued the 90's for me.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:58:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 26, 2017, 07:52:34 PM
1992 was such a strange time in metal. Dream Theater really rescued the 90's for me.

Pretty much the same for me , along with Talisman and a few other lesser known prog metal bands . There were so many big fails around then (and a few great bands that got dropped from labels in the blink of an eye when Nirvana hit) but it was also the time when I enjoyed treasure hunting for the few good things that were being released.

My interest in new material from DT dropped away "bigly" with FII and never really properly recovered until ADTOE. Images and Words was just impossible to follow up and producing a gem like that so early makes it hard to keep up momentum.
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Post by: TAC on May 26, 2017, 08:10:23 PM: A lot of those early 90's albums have aged really well, even though I was quite skeptical at the time. Things like Metallica's TBA, Megadeth's Youthanasia, QR's Empire. Helloween's Pink Bubbles. Dio disappeared for 3 years after Wolves.

I spent the end of 1992 through 1997 listening almost exclusively to Dream Theater. that is until FII came out, which I thought was a total sellout. I didn't need an internet back then to tell me that either.

Towards the turn of the 90's/00's decade I was looking for a new band to get into. That's when I discovered Hammerfall. I found Legacy Of Kings and it totally knocked me out. They were like a great 80's metal cover band playing originals. I know they are the butt of many a joke, but their first three albums are excellent. Then you know what...seemed all of the bands that they were emulating started huge comebacks. Saxon, Accept.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2017, 08:43:01 PM: I did very little musical discovery between 92-96... I was at Uni, busy with a lot of other things, and just entrenched in my classic/rock/glam tastes of the 70s and 80s. Shortly after grad, in late '96, I discovered DT, and that set me on a brief musical discovery period. Then I met mrs.jingle, and shit ground to a halt again. Then marriage and kids, and it wasn't until Napster in the early 2000s that I started rediscovering music. For some reason, 2005-ish was when I really became the music-aholic that I am today. I remember discovering Spock's Beard (because of the segment in 8vm/Full Circle - "Day for Night"), Angra, Nightwish, Rhapsody and some others and realizing 'shit, there is some kick-ass music from all over the world.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 08:50:01 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 26, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
I did very little musical discovery between 92-96... I was at Uni

that's a big part of why I DID lots of music disovery during that period. I was at Uni too and in the recreation areas where I spent way too much time playing pool it was a fucking non stop rotation of Smells Like Teen Spirit and RHCp's Under The Bridge (I really grew to hate that song >:( ) and so the minute I left the place I was thinking about finding something decent to listen to ;D
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Post by: Zoom E on May 26, 2017, 11:37:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 24, 2017, 07:07:29 PM
This one?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Lc4ATB8CL._AC_US218_.jpg)

Awesome!! I see it has One Night At Budokan. That is an awesome live album. Both MSG and Budokan feature Cozy Powell.

My favorite part of On And On is actually Paul Raymond's keys throughout the entire song, especially the end.

The debut has a strange feel. Simon Phillips' drumming, while precise, just doesn't fit. Those songs are so much better on Budokan.

There's a re-release of the remastered expanded version of Budokan coming out on June 2nd.

Not too excited about the 11 minute drum solo, but I'm going buy a copy of this for the bonus tracks and expanded versions of songs. :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on May 27, 2017, 02:59:49 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 26, 2017, 07:52:34 PM
1992 was such a strange time in metal. Dream Theater really rescued the 90's for me.

Similar for me but a few years later. In the early 90s there were plenty of great albums coming out but they were harder to find and were mail order purchases. The local cool music shop had died as bigger chains moved in.
I bought a lot of shit in the mid to late 90s but I also played the hell out of my decent old collection too.

That 3rd wave of 80s metal bands had a lot of promise but the times had changed.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 27, 2017, 04:41:26 AM: In the early 90s I started studying and got a decent sidejob. So suddenly I had much more money at hand than during my school years and I spent a fairly large amount in building my music collection. I discovered music everywhere and not just melodic rock and metal as I also really liked those "grunge" and alternative bands like Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Faith No More, Rage Against The Machine, Clawfinger etc.

I think I never bought that many cds than in the early 90s, new ones of bands I've just discovered and older ones to fill the gaps in discographies of favorite bands. And when Images & Words came along it blew me away. And I'm also one of those that really liked Falling Into Infinity. Up until Systematic Chaos I bought everything DT related on release day and went to every DT concert in the vicinity, saw them about 15 times. I'm still a big fan but not that obsessed than I was back then.
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Post by: TAC on May 27, 2017, 02:49:16 PM: Quote from: Zoom E on May 26, 2017, 11:37:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 24, 2017, 07:07:29 PM
This one?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Lc4ATB8CL._AC_US218_.jpg)

Awesome!! I see it has One Night At Budokan. That is an awesome live album. Both MSG and Budokan feature Cozy Powell.

My favorite part of On And On is actually Paul Raymond's keys throughout the entire song, especially the end.

The debut has a strange feel. Simon Phillips' drumming, while precise, just doesn't fit. Those songs are so much better on Budokan.

There's a re-release of the remastered expanded version of Budokan coming out on June 2nd.

Not too excited about the 11 minute drum solo, but I'm going buy a copy of this for the bonus tracks and expanded versions of songs. :metal

Thank you for the heads up, but I cannot find any details on the extra tracks.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 27, 2017, 03:23:28 PM: The version available on Amazon has the Ride of the Valkyries, drum solo and Tales of Mystery.
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Post by: TAC on May 27, 2017, 05:40:43 PM: So really just one extra tune?

I mean getting the full Cozy solo is fine, and I assume the took the stage to Ride Of The Valkries? Does that even count as an extra tune??

I love Tales Of Mystery. Schenker is fantastic on that. Classic.

I was hoping the Remaster would've included Rock Bottom. That lineup did a great version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oZ_aw4L1oQ
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Post by: TAC on May 27, 2017, 07:28:09 PM: So I reference The Living Room in Providence quite a bit. I have posted a bunch of pics from shows I saw there, mostly while in college.
Saw GnR there shortly after Appetite came out. Helloween, Saxon, UFO, Armored Saint. Bruce Dickinson, Flotsam & Jetsam, Jon Butcher, Gary Moore, Ace Frehley..

When I was in high school, I remember Bon Jovi, Metallica, Y&T, amongst others, all playing there.

I remember a buddy of mine and I got so drunk before a Mr. Big show there, they wouldn't even let us in! :lol

It was a dumpy old sardine can on the lot of some old warehouses.

(https://www.ripopmusic.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/LIVING-ROOM-2.jpg)

I found a video on youtube of a band called Enforcer, whoever the hell they are....but after watching the video :metal playing there in 1990. This video actually makes the stage look bigger than it was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuaRrQwg_xY

About a month later, I would see Bruce Dickinson's Tattooed Millionaire tour on that stage.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 27, 2017, 09:42:28 PM: I've seen Enforcer with Dark Tranquility here. Didn't know they were around that long.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 28, 2017, 12:19:09 AM: What's the capacity of the Living Room?
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Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2017, 05:05:56 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 26, 2017, 06:53:28 PM
From the Caption Thread:

Quote from: gmillerdrake on May 26, 2017, 04:01:56 PM
(https://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/gmillerdrake/D4D34C4C-1DD5-46EB-A27D-9D70A8A54673.jpg) (https://s791.photobucket.com/user/gmillerdrake/media/D4D34C4C-1DD5-46EB-A27D-9D70A8A54673.jpg.html)

First time Kade heard Winger.

Yep, very accurate. Yes Tim, it's that big!
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Post by: bl5150 on May 28, 2017, 06:31:26 PM: On that note I hope you have an exciting birthday Kade ;D
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Post by: TAC on May 28, 2017, 06:38:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 28, 2017, 06:31:26 PM
On that note I hope you have an exciting birthday Kade ;D

Nice! Gotta give the man his own thread!
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 28, 2017, 07:13:30 PM: Happy Birthday Wolfster!!
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Post by: TAC on May 28, 2017, 07:14:57 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 28, 2017, 07:13:30 PM
Happy Birthday Wolfster!!
:metal
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 29, 2017, 01:19:29 AM: Happy Birthday, party hard and live long. :tup
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Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2017, 03:11:51 AM: Yeah, happy birthday youngster 🤘🍺🍺🍺🍺🤘
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 05:31:53 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 28, 2017, 06:31:26 PM
On that note I hope you have an exciting birthday Kade ;D

Ah ha, you did get in first!! Now I know why you apologised!! :rollin

It's all good brother. And thanks, had a sweet day. Thought I was turning 32 when actually I'm 33. Did the same thing last year too. :facepalm:
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Post by: bl5150 on May 29, 2017, 05:56:12 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 05:31:53 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 28, 2017, 06:31:26 PM
On that note I hope you have an exciting birthday Kade ;D

Ah ha, you did get in first!! Now I know why you apologised!! :rollin

:)

Are any of the Aussies going to bother buying tickets to see Sebastian Bach ? (or Sebitchian as he used to be affectionately known on some forums :lol )

Not sure I can be bothered. Saw him years ago with his band - wasn't all that impressed with "Metal Mike" and the rest of his band at the time and his voice was just okay (much worse now from all reports).

On a positive note he usually puts on a very energetic and fun show (unless he loses his shit and walks off or belts someone in the crowd)

Talking of gigs we have probably the longest running Aussie KISS covers band coming to our local pub in a few weeks - been around for almost 20 years. I saw them NYE in the late 90's I think. Ben saw the poster out the front and is pissed off that he cannot come in for the show (liquor laws). My missus happens to know the sister of the pub owner so we've arranged for him to go "backstage" and meet the band and have a few pics before the show. No big deal but he'll think it's cool :)
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 06:06:21 AM: That will be pretty cool for Ben nevertheless Brent.

Nah, never was big into Bach so no chance for me. I can imagine he'd put on a good show though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2017, 01:36:29 PM: It would be worth going to see Bach to watch him flip out on someone. Each Bach show has a 98% success flip out rate.
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 04:16:10 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 29, 2017, 01:36:29 PM
It would be worth going to see Bach to watch him flip out on someone. Each Bach show has a 98% success flip out rate.

:lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 29, 2017, 05:59:17 PM: Just checked when I saw Bach and it was 2006. Now that we're talking about his flip out ratio I have a feeling he closed the concert early because some plastic cups were being thrown on stage. Unfortunately there is only a record of the gig on setlist.fm but no other info.
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 06:02:01 PM: I'm checking out a few more newer releases I've missed while I have a week off work.

Just listened to the Crazy Lixx, and I was a fan of the last one as I felt their slight change in style really suited my tastes and this is more of the same. Really enjoyable. Of course nothing groundbreaking, but I like it.
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 08:20:34 PM: This Unity album with Henjo Richter is actually pretty crap. Not much shredding either at all, disappointing.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 29, 2017, 08:51:42 PM: So on the Richter scale........

(https://s16.postimg.org/zf5w27ww5/richter.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 09:47:51 PM: Nice Brent. Yeah, I'll have a second listen but no way you could tell Henjo had a part of this. Lacking playing and songwriting. Maybe I need to go in with a more open mind.

Just starting to listen to the Harem Scarem now.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 29, 2017, 09:50:57 PM: I haven't done anywhere near as good a job of keeping up with new releases this year but my impression at almost half way is that 2017 has been pretty weak thus far.

I would have to check but can't think of anything that I have rated better than mid-high 80's .

And mr.com has only rated 85% of its reviews at 100%
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 10:03:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 29, 2017, 09:50:57 PM
I haven't done anywhere near as good a job of keeping up with new releases this year but my impression at almost half way is that 2017 has been pretty weak thus far.

I would have to check but can't think of anything that I have rated better than mid-high 80's .

And mr.com has only rated 85% of its reviews at 100%

5 songs into the Harem Scarem and yeah, I could turn it off to be honest.

I've had another listen to the Crazy Lixx though, that one is sticking at the moment.

I listened to the Pyramaze also earlier today and it was pretty strong, but pretty much the same as the last one. I liked the last one and it was one of my fav albums of the year, but don't think this one will have the atmosphere and replay value of that one. It sounded promising though.
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 10:20:43 PM: Up to the second last song of the Harem Scarem and I can't help but to keep thinking to myself 'why am I listening to this?' and 'what's the point?'
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Post by: bl5150 on May 29, 2017, 10:50:48 PM: I haven't got to Crazy Lixx yet , so there's hope. I thought the Harem Scarem was decent enough - any other band and it'd be very good I suppose but it's just HS by the numbers and there's really no need to listen to anything on it in preference to their best albums.

Album cover gets a 9/10 :D
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 30, 2017, 12:17:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 10:20:43 PM
Up to the second last song of the Harem Scarem and I can't help but to keep thinking to myself 'why am I listening to this?' and 'what's the point?'

:lol

We need Chad to weigh in on the verdict for this Harem Scarem. I'll stick with Mood Swings and pass on the new one.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 30, 2017, 04:18:40 AM: Anybody picking up the new Primal Fear live album this week, Angels of Mercy? I won't get the blu ray, but I'm getting the cd/dvd set.
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 05:18:00 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 30, 2017, 04:18:40 AM
Anybody picking up the new Primal Fear live album this week, Angels of Mercy? I won't get the blu ray, but I'm getting the cd/dvd set.

Won't get it right away, but I'm planning on it. Can't pass up anything Primal Fear. :metal

Quote from: bl5150 on May 29, 2017, 10:50:48 PM
I haven't got to Crazy Lixx yet , so there's hope. I thought the Harem Scarem was decent enough - any other band and it'd be very good I suppose but it's just HS by the numbers and there's really no need to listen to anything on it in preference to their best albums.

Album cover gets a 9/10 :D

That's it. Just nothing new or anything worthwhile. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt though and give it another spin.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 06:24:25 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 30, 2017, 12:17:58 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 29, 2017, 10:20:43 PM
Up to the second last song of the Harem Scarem and I can't help but to keep thinking to myself 'why am I listening to this?' and 'what's the point?'

:lol

We need Chad to weigh in on the verdict for this Harem Scarem. I'll stick with Mood Swings and pass on the new one.

Nothing will ever top Mood Swings. I liked United slightly better than 13, but Brent pretty much nailed it - HS by the numbers. Nothing wrong with it, but they're starting to suffer from ARP syndrome - if you've heard one Harem album (of the last 6) you've heard them all. And as Paul once put it with ARP, you can probably identify which track number each song is too! :lol

Pre-ordered Angels of Mercy BluRay.
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Post by: TAC on May 30, 2017, 06:30:06 AM: :corn
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 04:03:32 PM: Anyone heard this band and album;

(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/6/1/7/2/617255.jpg?3936)

I think I stumbled across this band from a youtube recommendation and checked out this latest album from them. I think it's quite excellent. They are like a perfect blend of old school Hammerfall and Edguy. Solid, no frills and pretty well written power metal. I'm liking it a lot.
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Post by: TAC on May 30, 2017, 04:05:08 PM: That was the second album I bought this year. I love this album and had it on in the car last week. The dude sounds lust like Cans.
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 04:08:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2017, 04:05:08 PM
That was the second album I bought this year. I love this album and had it on in the car last week. The dude sounds lust like Cans.

Fuckin' doesn't he? It's like hearing Glory/Legacy era Jociam again. So much on here takes me back to that era of Hammerfall or Mandrake/Theater era Edguy and it makes me feel fucking good. I think this is some of the coolest and freshest power metal I've heard for a long time. This will be a purchase for me.

Just looking them up and looks like its their third album.
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Post by: TAC on May 30, 2017, 04:10:49 PM: Yes and that was the best era for both bands, if you ask me.

I haven't gone back to check anything else out by them, but Mastery is an awesome album. Very easy on the ears.
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 05:27:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2017, 04:10:49 PM
Yes and that was the best era for both bands, if you ask me.

I haven't gone back to check anything else out by them, but Mastery is an awesome album. Very easy on the ears.

:metal

Some great guitar work in there to boot too.

Definitely agree on the Hammerfall and Edguy mate. I remember hearing The Dragon Lies Bleeding for the first time and I was fucking blown away. Those first 3 albums were my intro to power metal. Finding Edguy not long after and I think I heard Golden Dawn and getting that album just opened up such a beautiful new world. For an album to remind me of those days is so rare but very much needed these days in a sea of shit.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2017, 05:56:50 PM: I checked out the vid for Follow Azrael and thought it was solid Edguy style stuff but it didn't inspire me to follow up. I know I have never been super impressed by their past efforts so that's why I just checked the one song. What's some of your favourite songs from the album guys?
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 06:28:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 30, 2017, 05:56:50 PM
I checked out the vid for Follow Azrael and thought it was solid Edguy style stuff but it didn't inspire me to follow up. I know I have never been super impressed by their past efforts so that's why I just checked the one song. What's some of your favourite songs from the album guys?

Only listened to it a couple of times and didn't really follow the tracklist but I know the title track is blistering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9B_SS8WNDw

This video makes them seem a lot more mediocre than what they actually are.
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Post by: TAC on May 30, 2017, 06:30:44 PM: I like Victims Of The Nile, Iscariot, Future Millenia, and The Great Unknown is cool for what it is.
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Post by: TAC on May 30, 2017, 06:33:39 PM: As soon as Mosh updates the Maiden Discog Thread to Piece Of Mind, I'll post my World Piece Tour program. But I'll preview the first two pages and the front/back cover here!

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3474_zpsfph1mxeh.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3474_zpsfph1mxeh.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/IMG_3475_zpsf3grts57.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/IMG_3475_zpsf3grts57.jpg.html)
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 06:35:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2017, 06:30:44 PM
I like Victims Of The Nile, Iscariot, Future Millenia, and The Great Unknown is cool for what it is.

That was definitely one that stood out too.
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 06:35:49 PM: Damn, this Crazy Lixx is awesome!
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 30, 2017, 06:43:33 PM: I'm assuming when Piece of Mind was released, Iron Maiden were on top of the metal world.

I know Maiden opened up for Priest on the Number tour, but when did Maiden surpass Priest? Was it on this album or Powerslave?
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Post by: TAC on May 30, 2017, 07:03:55 PM: Maiden headlined the POM tour in 1983. That was their first headline tour in NA.

Priest toured Defenders in '84 and then Maiden came back with the Powerslave headline tour in '85.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2017, 07:52:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 06:35:27 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2017, 06:30:44 PM
I like Victims Of The Nile, Iscariot, Future Millenia, and The Great Unknown is cool for what it is.

That was definitely one that stood out too.

I checked out the title track and Future Millenia. Future Millenia was my fave.

After those two tracks I have a better memory of why I mightn't have bothered too much in the past. I do enjoy the music but it's pretty standard power metal. The singer reminds me quite a bit of Tobias and , like Tobias (more so) , on some songs he sounds like he is living on the edge in terms of falling out of tune. He never quite hits a shocking note but it doesn't always sound quite right either. Not sure if anyone can relate but to me guys like this sorta sound like they have come to singing late and don't quite have the control of a Kiske/prime time Tate. In many respects they are almost the same but in others it's like night and day for me. And I love high pitched vocals.

It will be interesting to see what you guys think of the upcoming feature band in the next podcast. They're on another level musically and for my taste they blow stuff like Lancer out of the water but our tastes aren't always 100% in sync are they? :)

Anyway.................I did enjoy Future Millenia but still not sure if I will check out the album as I know I will struggle with some of it.

I see Tim's favourite music vid as a 13 yo was Run To The Hills. A few weeks after I turned 13 a video called Boys came out by a very talented vocalist called Sabrina. That was my favourite music video (sound down) as a 13 year old. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 07:59:39 PM: Brent, I know exactly what you are saying about the vocals. In the youtube clips, he does sound just a little off, but in the car through a different mix he sounds pretty decent. The Azreal was the first clip I heard through shitty speakers and at times I was almost cringing to be honest. I don't really rate the guys singing, but I think it's such straight forward power metal and the vocals are almost borderline ridiculously overblown that they are so over the top at times, they are good, if that makes sense. Just balls out overblown power metal.

I guess the louder you play it the better it is. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2017, 08:01:05 PM: Unlike the vocals his earrings (Mastery vid) aren't "so bad they're good." They're just bad - I wanted to reach through the screen , do him a favour and rip them out :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 08:06:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 30, 2017, 08:01:05 PM
Unlike the vocals his earring aren't "so bad they're good." They're just bad - I wanted to reach through the screen , do him a favour and rip them out :biggrin:

His stupid fucking necklace ain't any better either.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 08:07:30 PM: I spun the Lancer/Mastery album a couple of times earlier in the year. "Avantasia wannabe" was the comment I tagged to it. B- is how I rated it.
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 08:19:41 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 08:07:30 PM
I spun the Lancer/Mastery album a couple of times earlier in the year. "Avantasia wannabe" was the comment I tagged to it. B- is how I rated it.

Did you mean Edguy?
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 08:26:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 08:19:41 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 08:07:30 PM
I spun the Lancer/Mastery album a couple of times earlier in the year. "Avantasia wannabe" was the comment I tagged to it. B- is how I rated it.

Did you mean Edguy?

Did I type "Edguy"? :D ;)
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 08:47:12 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 08:26:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 08:19:41 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 08:07:30 PM
I spun the Lancer/Mastery album a couple of times earlier in the year. "Avantasia wannabe" was the comment I tagged to it. B- is how I rated it.

Did you mean Edguy?

Did I type "Edguy"? :D ;)

Fair enough, I just don't get the Avantasia comparison apart from the singer sounding a bit like Tobi.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 09:38:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 08:47:12 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 08:26:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 08:19:41 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 08:07:30 PM
I spun the Lancer/Mastery album a couple of times earlier in the year. "Avantasia wannabe" was the comment I tagged to it. B- is how I rated it.

Did you mean Edguy?

Did I type "Edguy"? :D ;)

Fair enough, I just don't get the Avantasia comparison apart from the singer sounding a bit like Tobi.

That was probably enough. If I was more of an Edguy fan, I probably would've thought "Edguy wannabe".
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 06:05:10 AM: Sick of gambling on things so gonna spend the next 3 hrs checking out albums I pretty much know I'll like.............Crazy Lixx , Night Flight Orchestra and The Ferrymen (got that one a couple of days early) :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 06:53:19 AM: I wasn't all that rapt in the Crazy Lixx Kade - rated it well below s/t and New Religion. I was finding it very samey...........it really needed the (good) ballad to mix things up (If It's Love) and that came just in time to keep me going. I thought Snakes in Paradise was pretty rubbish.

XIII was my fave I think. Solid album but a little disappointing compared to what I was expecting.

On to The Ferrymen.
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Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 07:24:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 06:53:19 AM
I wasn't all that rapt in the Crazy Lixx Kade - rated it well below s/t and New Religion. I was finding it very samey...........it really needed the (good) ballad to mix things up (If It's Love) and that came just in time to keep me going. I thought Snakes in Paradise was pretty rubbish.

XIII was my fave I think. Solid album but a little disappointing compared to what I was expecting.

On to The Ferrymen.

Haha, no surprise mate. Dunno why I'm digging it so much, but I can see what you mean, it doesn't have the variety of the self titled. The songs can flow into each other.

Interested to see if the Ferrymen can get your attention Brent.
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Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 05:16:49 PM: I listened to the Pyramaze in the car and I change my mind, it's fucking brilliant.
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Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 05:48:02 PM: Eagerly awaiting the bad news from Brent on the Ferrymen. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 06:14:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 05:48:02 PM
Eagerly awaiting the bad news from Brent on the Ferrymen. ;D

I gave this disc two listens and I will say that I like it better than Harem Scarem and Crazy Lixx..........but not by a huge margin. I was tiring of it by track 8 or 9 and Track 10 (Eyes of The Sky) bored me to tears as it was all too samey by then. As is often the case the album is 3-4 songs too long.

What it does have that the others don't is a run of 3-4 songs that I really liked. Nothing in there that has enough identity/originality to be a future classic but the run of songs from 3-6 is very good. Track 3 (Fool You All) I like despite knowing I probably shouldn't - the riff is something any guitarist worth their salt (esp post Bad Boys by Sykes) could come up with in 10 seconds , but I found myself enjoying it anyway :lol My favourite is Track 6 (One Heart) as it has a few more twists and turns ...........a bit more thought behind it and a nice chorus

I'd rate it 84% which is one of my better ratings in recent times. It's about as good as you'll get from one of these projects done by email etc...
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Post by: TAC on May 31, 2017, 06:16:44 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 06:14:26 PM
I gave this disc two listens and I will say that I like it better than Harem Scarem and Crazy Lixx..........

:lol

Really? No kidding?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 06:19:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 31, 2017, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 06:14:26 PM
I gave this disc two listens and I will say that I like it better than Harem Scarem and Crazy Lixx..........

:lol

Really? No kidding?

I will also say that as I was typing that I was wondering how long it would take for a TAC takedown :lol
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Post by: TAC on May 31, 2017, 06:50:46 PM: :metal
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Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 09:42:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 06:14:26 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 05:48:02 PM
Eagerly awaiting the bad news from Brent on the Ferrymen. ;D

I gave this disc two listens and I will say that I like it better than Harem Scarem and Crazy Lixx..........but not by a huge margin. I was tiring of it by track 8 or 9 and Track 10 (Eyes of The Sky) bored me to tears as it was all too samey by then. As is often the case the album is 3-4 songs too long.

What it does have that the others don't is a run of 3-4 songs that I really liked. Nothing in there that has enough identity/originality to be a future classic but the run of songs from 3-6 is very good. Track 3 (Fool You All) I like despite knowing I probably shouldn't - the riff is something any guitarist worth their salt (esp post Bad Boys by Sykes) could come up with in 10 seconds , but I found myself enjoying it anyway :lol My favourite is Track 6 (One Heart) as it has a few more twists and turns ...........a bit more thought behind it and a nice chorus

I'd rate it 84% which is one of my better ratings in recent times. It's about as good as you'll get from one of these projects done by email etc...

Again, pretty much what I was expecting, but 84 is a good score for you Brent, so it could get a mr.com score from me. :biggrin:

The bolded line I think sums up what I was saying a couple of pages back when Tim was asking about his other work. Allen/Lande, teh first Starbreaker and Last Tribe all had something special, creativity, a spark, excitement and energy and I think Magnus has fallen into the rut that most others have, and that line Brent sums up my thoughts, even though I still rate his stuff highly. He's slipped off and in that rut, but he's still standing on top of every other artist who are in the hole deeper and it's keeping his head well above water.
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Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 09:43:37 PM: For another twist, I'm checking out the Apollo again and yeah, don't see what you are seeing Brent with this one. Nothing grabs my attention, but damn I love this guys voice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 10:05:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 09:43:37 PM
For another twist, I'm checking out the Apollo again and yeah, don't see what you are seeing Brent with this one. Nothing grabs my attention, but damn I love this guys voice.

Fair enough ............I know that most reviewers were more of your view than mine. Not an all time classic by any means and had many generic elements but I at least heard a degree of thought and enough originality to separate it from the pack in that regard. It is a fine line and these days anything where I detect an album that doesn't sound thrown together possibly impresses me more than it would've done "back in the good old days."
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 10:07:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 10:05:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 09:43:37 PM
For another twist, I'm checking out the Apollo again and yeah, don't see what you are seeing Brent with this one. Nothing grabs my attention, but damn I love this guys voice.

Fair enough ............I know that most reviewers were more of your view than mine. Not an all time classic by any means and had many generic elements but I at least heard a degree of thought and enough originality to separate it from the pack in that regard. It is a fine line and these days anything where I detect an album that doesn't sound thrown together possibly impresses me more than it would've done "back in the good old days."

Indeed. I think it just comes down to the individual in a lot of cases.

Listening to the Pretty Maids from last year now. More of the same but really enjoyable.
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Post by: wolfking on June 01, 2017, 06:12:47 AM: Checked out the Striker self titled album from this year. I remember liking them from Brent's best of the rest 2016 podcast I think it was. Haven't checked the 2016 one out, but this new one is a bit of a cracker. Really short which I don't have an issue with, to the point, melodic, great energy and great performances. Solid outing. I love that they didn't feel the need or pressure to bloat the album out so it makes you lose interest.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 01, 2017, 06:53:22 AM: Striker are cool .........usually only have a couple of real killers per album but that's better than most and rarely any real duds.

Just giving the next podcast one final listen and you'll have a link in the morning . This one is ballad free and close enough to hair metal free ..........for the metalheads who found the hard rock one a bit light on :2metal:
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 01, 2017, 07:27:04 AM: Brent & Bens bic lighter free podcast!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 01, 2017, 03:45:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 31, 2017, 10:05:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 31, 2017, 09:43:37 PM
For another twist, I'm checking out the Apollo again and yeah, don't see what you are seeing Brent with this one. Nothing grabs my attention, but damn I love this guys voice.

Fair enough ............I know that most reviewers were more of your view than mine. Not an all time classic by any means and had many generic elements but I at least heard a degree of thought and enough originality to separate it from the pack in that regard. It is a fine line and these days anything where I detect an album that doesn't sound thrown together possibly impresses me more than it would've done "back in the good old days."

I enjoyed it. Not played it since it first came out though.

About what I expected from the Ferrymen by the sounds of it Brent. Wasn't wowed by those first couple of tracks they put out.
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Post by: wolfking on June 01, 2017, 04:25:07 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 01, 2017, 06:53:22 AM
Striker are cool .........usually only have a couple of real killers per album but that's better than most and rarely any real duds.

Just giving the next podcast one final listen and you'll have a link in the morning . This one is ballad free and close enough to hair metal free ..........for the metalheads who found the hard rock one a bit light on :2metal:

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Post by: TAC on June 01, 2017, 06:33:55 PM: (https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/8b/8bbab6b76be0395e48c3a29a943a26a4a95da814434d27196a2cbd475fcc43ae.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 01, 2017, 06:47:26 PM: Here you go guys.

https://yadi.sk/d/vKRZGE0k3JkKHt

As per usual a link is in the OP too.

it's a bit easier putting together these "non-list" shows , hence I've got this one done pretty quick. As per normal for the regular shows it's a mix of classics and unknowns. Mostly towards the heavier end of things as already mentioned. Includes a feature power metal band and a little KISS special from Ben.

Hope you enjoy listening as much as I am :metal
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Post by: TAC on June 01, 2017, 06:56:02 PM: Awesome Brent!

Going to download it overnight so when I get home tomorrow afternoon, it'll be ready!-
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Post by: wolfking on June 01, 2017, 07:24:04 PM: Downloading now and will start listening tonight!! :metal

Damn, I've got to go out so gonna have to download it tonight :(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 01, 2017, 07:41:30 PM: Download it while you're out! It'll be ready when you get back. I'm going to download it while I sleep.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 01, 2017, 11:28:15 PM: On holidays but had to pop out, so I snuck in to work and downloaded on the work PC. It's going on a USB right now and then I'm going to sneak out Mission Impossible style!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2017, 06:32:33 AM: New Ferymen clip;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as9eAADM_y0

Pretty good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 06:40:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 01, 2017, 11:28:15 PM
On holidays but had to pop out, so I snuck in to work and downloaded on the work PC. It's going on a USB right now and then I'm going to sneak out Mission Impossible style!!

:ninja:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2017, 04:23:36 PM: Haven't started the podcast yet, and will be out the weekend, so will start listening Sunday night.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2017, 04:25:12 PM: When I was out yesterday I went to a couple of cd stores and managed to find copies of the Lancer, Night Flight Orchestra and the Fates Warning Awaken the Guardian, stoked. Got the new Between the Buried and Me CD/DVD but that won't interest anyone here.

I also saw the new Adrenaline Mob, but that one stayed on the shelves. ;D
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Post by: TAC on June 02, 2017, 04:30:36 PM: New Accept!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvyVuvbm1Sc

Pretty standard stuff from them, which of course means :metal

The instrumental section is :hefdaddy
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Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2017, 04:52:27 PM: Standard Acept indeed, but certainly doesn't disappoint.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 02, 2017, 05:31:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 02, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
When I was out yesterday I went to a couple of cd stores and managed to find copies of the Lancer, Night Flight Orchestra and the Fates Warning Awaken the Guardian, stoked. Got the new Between the Buried and Me CD/DVD but that won't interest anyone here.

I also saw the new Adrenaline Mob, but that one stayed on the shelves. ;D

It would be nice to still have cd stores around lol

And a paint by the numbers Accept song is still a paint by the numbers ass kicker! :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 05:55:50 PM: That Nightflight Orchestra album was fucking amazing. Not at all what I would've expected, but loved every minute of it. Absolutely zero 'samey-ness' that so many records suffer from nowadays.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2017, 06:08:40 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 05:55:50 PM
That Nightflight Orchestra album was fucking amazing. Not at all what I would've expected, but loved every minute of it. Absolutely zero 'samey-ness' that so many records suffer from nowadays.

After one listen, this is what I noticed the most too, lots of variety. Solid album. Amazing to think that the singer here is the same singer here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-deRh1VGYA

:metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 02, 2017, 06:09:17 PM: I really liked what I've heard from that Nightflight Orchestra
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 06:33:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 02, 2017, 06:09:17 PM
I really liked what I've heard from that Nightflight Orchestra

Jay... I'm gonna pull a Wayne's World here, and give you a no honk guarantee if you pick it up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 02, 2017, 06:37:54 PM: I liked the first couple NFO tracks linked, but I did not like the last one.

But man, they have that 80's sound down.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 06:42:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 02, 2017, 06:37:54 PM
I liked the first couple NFO tracks linked, but I did not like the last one.

But man, they have that 80's sound down.

Spin the album Tim, it's on Spotify
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 02, 2017, 06:46:59 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 06:33:23 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 02, 2017, 06:09:17 PM
I really liked what I've heard from that Nightflight Orchestra

Jay... I'm gonna pull a Wayne's World here, and give you a no honk guarantee if you pick it up.

Asphinctersayswhat?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 07:41:32 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 02, 2017, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 06:33:23 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 02, 2017, 06:09:17 PM
I really liked what I've heard from that Nightflight Orchestra

Jay... I'm gonna pull a Wayne's World here, and give you a no honk guarantee if you pick it up.

Asphinctersayswhat?

(https://replygif.net/i/1437.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 02, 2017, 07:43:02 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 03, 2017, 12:24:45 AM: Primal Fear Angels of Mercy is an excellent live album and Ralph is sounding just as good as ever on this one. I think they should have included a couple more tracks from DTB though. But a great set list overall!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2017, 04:46:02 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 03, 2017, 12:24:45 AM
Primal Fear Angels of Mercy is an excellent live album and Ralph is sounding just as good as ever on this one. I think they should have included a couple more tracks from DTB though. But a great set list overall!

Good shit j.
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Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2017, 04:46:34 AM: This Night Flight Orchestra is fucking amazing. Didn't think I'd like this one as much as I do, fabulous album.
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Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2017, 04:48:42 AM: :lol What a pleasent surprise at the mention of the band that gave inspiration of the first section of the podcast. Brent we salute you.

Didn't like much of that Warrior besides the one with Rob Rock, which J gave me a song from them with Rob Rock in the roulette which I really enjoyed too. Not sure both songs are from the same album, but good shit.

Oh, Sole Survivor and Hanger 18. WIN! :metal

Oh shit, top 3 Savatage song right now!!!!! Could even be my fav.

What a fantastic underrated Priest track!

The Alter, fuck yes, love that album.
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Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2017, 05:40:52 AM: That Riot V was awesome.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 04, 2017, 03:44:40 PM: Just played the new Warrant and really enjoyed it. At least they sound like a band. Pretty straight forward hard rock but I love Robert Mason's voice.
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Post by: TAC on June 04, 2017, 04:11:29 PM: I couldn't get through the title track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 04:52:22 PM: Just figured I would mention this as you guys would be the only ones who would appreciate this. I just finished listening to every song on my ipod, which had around 8,000 songs. It took me just over three years to do it, almost daily, but that was a lot of rock!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2017, 05:13:37 PM: Nice Jay. That deserves a

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 05:16:40 PM: lol :metal
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Post by: TAC on June 04, 2017, 05:28:25 PM: It was also a lot of "Best of" albums!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 04, 2017, 05:34:08 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
Just figured I would mention this as you guys would be the only ones who would appreciate this. I just finished listening to every song on my ipod, which had around 8,000 songs. It took me just over three years to do it, almost daily, but that was a lot of rock!!

That's fuckin awesome! But it's deserving of a triple WHOO!

(https://reactiongif.org/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/08/GIF-excited-in-your-face-satisfied-woo-yes-GIF.gif)

How did you keep track of it?
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 06:02:24 PM: I just put it on shuffle and three years later I was rocked out to the max!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2017, 06:19:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
Just figured I would mention this as you guys would be the only ones who would appreciate this. I just finished listening to every song on my ipod, which had around 8,000 songs. It took me just over three years to do it, almost daily, but that was a lot of rock!!

(https://media.tumblr.com/bcbb80613f0e413ef644a31359ed8bdf/tumblr_inline_mriykfmQJZ1qz4rgp.gif)

(https://media.tumblr.com/bcbb80613f0e413ef644a31359ed8bdf/tumblr_inline_mriykfmQJZ1qz4rgp.gif)

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Post by: jingle.boy on June 04, 2017, 07:08:05 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 06:02:24 PM
I just put it on shuffle and three years later I was rocked out to the max!

Ya know, you should've saved this for your 10,000th post. THAT would have been epic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 07:18:35 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 04, 2017, 07:08:05 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 06:02:24 PM
I just put it on shuffle and three years later I was rocked out to the max!

Ya know, you should've saved this for your 10,000th post. THAT would have been epic.

I'm still tossing and turning at night debating whether post 10,000 should go in the hard rock/classic metal thread or make my debut in the rap/hip hop thread
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2017, 07:26:58 PM: (https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/just-be-cool-ice-cube1.jpg?quality=65&strip=all)
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 07:42:06 PM: Truly any other genre of music in the world besides rock/metal, my contributions would be legitimately zero lol
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Post by: TAC on June 04, 2017, 07:44:16 PM: Oh, it'd be at least 100 x that! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2017, 07:46:47 PM: With your 10,000th post you should start The Official Hip Hop , Trip Hop , Shoegazing, Post Metal, Jazzy Ambient Avantgarde , Zantera/Sacul Music , Growly , Krautrock, Goregrind Ska Punk, Neo Grunge BEATDOWN thread :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 04, 2017, 07:46:52 PM: Well if I post in the rap/hip hop thread I can mention that I've heard of Tone Loc, MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice. Will that go over well in the rap thread?
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Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2017, 10:24:48 PM: I can contribute too Jay. I've seen LL Cool J on NCIS L.A............does that count?

Starting on Jorn's album finally...........just getting towards the end of the opener (title track) . I was a bit underwhelmed by the riff but by the end of the song (with kudos to the extended solo section) I was on board and looking forward to what's coming.

The only issue I have to this point is that Jorn seems a bit low in the mix on that opener (and his voice does seem to have lost a bit IMO ) which is weird for a vocal solo album.

Second song seems a bit better with the mix.

Glad he seems to have lost his addiction to plodding songs.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 12:05:50 AM: Hmm - seems Danny Vaughn was in town last night and I didn't even know. Did a show with The Ultimate Eagles in Melbourne. Looks like tix for this Eagles cover band were about the same as what I would pay for a KISS concert :lol So I guess I wouldn't have gone even if I did know.
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 05:29:26 AM: Danny Vaughn playing with an Eagles tribute? The fuck? haha.

Good to see the Jorn is sounding like a big step up.
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 05:47:43 AM: Brent, those first 3 random Morifade songs were okay but nothing special if I'm being honest, but those tracks from Domination were good, like really fucking good actually.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 05:50:06 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 05:47:43 AM
Brent, those first 3 random Morifade songs were okay but nothing special if I'm being honest, but those tracks from Domination were good, like really fucking good actually.

Cool. I love those songs too and unusually for me the drumming is also a real attraction. As I said in the show the real intention was to feature Domi<>nation but I know that some people prefer those early albums (and they do show hints of what's to come) so thought I would give that taster.
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Post by: Prog Snob on June 05, 2017, 05:51:54 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 05:29:26 AM
Danny Vaughn playing with an Eagles tribute? The fuck? haha.

I've always been a fan of Tyketto, but that just doesn't fit. :lol Then again hearing Garth Brooks do KISS totally surprised me sounding as good as it did.
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 05:52:54 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 05:50:06 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 05:47:43 AM
Brent, those first 3 random Morifade songs were okay but nothing special if I'm being honest, but those tracks from Domination were good, like really fucking good actually.

Cool. I love those songs too and unusually for me the drumming is also a real attraction. As I said in the show the real intention was to feature Domi<>nation but I know that some people prefer those early albums (and they do show hints of what's to come) so thought I would give that taster.

Definitely enjoyed the Domination tracks more. You're right too, they sound fantastic, Andy did a great job here. Probably next to impossible to get it on cd I'm guessing.
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 05:58:47 AM: Fuck yeah, that Elegy was balls out!
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 05, 2017, 06:14:24 AM: The only thing I know about rap is that the "C" is silent.
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Post by: Prog Snob on June 05, 2017, 06:22:24 AM: rapc :justjen
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 05, 2017, 06:40:24 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 05, 2017, 06:14:24 AM
The only thing I know about rap is that the "C" is silent.

:lol

You could play the big hit from the West Texas Rednecks, "Rap is Crap" to emphasize that
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 06:44:16 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 05, 2017, 06:40:24 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 05, 2017, 06:14:24 AM
The only thing I know about rap is that the "C" is silent.

:lol

You could play the big hit from the West Texas Rednecks, "Rap is Crap" to emphasize that

I had not heard that before. They're pretty crap too but not as crap as rap :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2017, 08:55:00 AM: Quote from: Prog Snob on June 05, 2017, 05:51:54 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 05:29:26 AM
Danny Vaughn playing with an Eagles tribute? The fuck? haha.

I've always been a fan of Tyketto, but that just doesn't fit. :lol Then again hearing Garth Brooks do KISS totally surprised me sounding as good as it did.

There's a lot of country influences on the second Tyketto album and Danny's Vaughn albums so I can see it.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2017, 10:10:33 AM: So I've listened to the two new Mr Big tracks, and the last couple of reunion albums. Has Eric's voice gone or is the production just shit?
Everything sounds dull and muddy. Needs some top end from the guitars.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k2XbrucOnC8
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 03:26:48 PM: Brent, not sure if you said it before the song, but is taht Elegy song a fair representation of the album?
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 05, 2017, 03:35:43 PM: Ian Parry Elegy is excellent. Not sure which song/album is on the Podcast, but I remember that an Elegy (pre Ian Parry) made Brent's Top 50.
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 03:55:25 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 05, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
Ian Parry Elegy is excellent. Not sure which song/album is on the Podcast, but I remember that an Elegy (pre Ian Parry) made Brent's Top 50.

I'm No Fool from Labyrinth of Dreams.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 04:52:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
Brent, not sure if you said it before the song, but is taht Elegy song a fair representation of the album?

Yeah - definitely. That was the single so probably one of the shorter , more catchy songs but the answer is yes. If you like that you should at least get Labyrinth of Dreams and Supremacy.

Another one you may like from the debut was The Grande Change

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd4Cx4aMU98
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 07:11:28 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
Brent, not sure if you said it before the song, but is taht Elegy song a fair representation of the album?

Yeah - definitely. That was the single so probably one of the shorter , more catchy songs but the answer is yes. If you like that you should at least get Labyrinth of Dreams and Supremacy.

Another one you may like from the debut was The Grande Change

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd4Cx4aMU98

Fuck yeah, insane soloing!

It does give me an old school DT feel with like Tate/Midnight style vox, really good shit.
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Post by: TAC on June 05, 2017, 07:23:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 07:11:28 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 04:52:42 PM
Another one you may like from the debut was The Grande Change

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd4Cx4aMU98

Fuck yeah, insane soloing!

It does give me an old school DT feel with like Tate/Midnight style vox, really good shit.

Just checking this out now. Damn! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 07:33:35 PM: As Chad said it was in my DTF Top 50 , likely with these exact same songs linked....... :P

EDIT : Looks like I featured the 2nd album Supremacy for some reason . The debut had more impact but either way - both strong albums
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Post by: TAC on June 05, 2017, 07:36:33 PM: I'm sorry if I don't have your Top 50 f'n memorized! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 07:38:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2017, 07:36:33 PM
I'm sorry if I don't have your Top 50 f'n memorized! :lol

Same haha.

I'm listening to the full album on youtube now, it's awesome.
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Post by: TAC on June 05, 2017, 07:41:15 PM: I'll hit it tomorrow. Got the day off.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 07:43:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2017, 07:36:33 PM
I'm sorry if I don't have your Top 50 f'n memorized! :lol

I wasn't suggesting you should :P

I was assuming though that if you loved an album/linked tracks in someone's Top 50 that you would likely have followed up and know of them . That's the whole point of following Top 50's aint it?

You were probably too busy checking out the Winger links. I understand ;D
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 07:47:45 PM: Brent, worth checking out the other two older albums from Elegy?
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 07:53:35 PM: I would initially focus on the first two (debut and Supremacy) - the cover to Lost was always a favourite but from memory some of it got a bit too "poppy" for my liking. Having said that if you like the guitar playing I would check that out too - it does have a couple of great tracks on it.

From there the first album with Ian Parry (State of Mind) regains the heavy edge and is a ripper. The follow up (Manifestation Of Fear) is a concept album with 2 or 3 great songs but other than that I wasn't a huge fan.

After that the main guitarist and founder of the band left and was replaced with Patrick Rondat who IMHO should've stuck to instrumentals......I know Chad differs on this but to me the songs just aren't there in those last couple of albums.

So.......if I were to buy 3 it would be Labyrinth of Dreams, Supremacy and State of Mind.
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 07:56:02 PM: I'll just check them all out I think!! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 05, 2017, 07:56:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2017, 07:43:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2017, 07:36:33 PM
I'm sorry if I don't have your Top 50 f'n memorized! :lol

I wasn't suggesting you should :P

I was assuming though that if you loved an album/linked tracks in someone's Top 50 that you would likely have followed up and know of them . That's the whole point of following Top 50's aint it?

You were probably too busy checking out the Winger links. I understand ;D

Brent, my brain is only so big.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 05, 2017, 07:59:03 PM: Of the Parry-era albums, I mostly agree with Brent's assessment

State of Mind > Forbidden Fruit > Principles of Pain > Manifestations of Fear

Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2017, 07:56:47 PM
Brent, my brain is only so big.

You sure it's your brain that gets big listening to Winger?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 05, 2017, 08:20:15 PM: Shrinkage. Total shrinkage!
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 05:21:47 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2017, 08:20:15 PM
Shrinkage. Total shrinkage!

Opposite for me!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Prog Snob on June 06, 2017, 05:30:29 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 05, 2017, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: Prog Snob on June 05, 2017, 05:51:54 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2017, 05:29:26 AM
Danny Vaughn playing with an Eagles tribute? The fuck? haha.

I've always been a fan of Tyketto, but that just doesn't fit. :lol Then again hearing Garth Brooks do KISS totally surprised me sounding as good as it did.

There's a lot of country influences on the second Tyketto album and Danny's Vaughn albums so I can see it.

True. I think the different vocal styles throw me off. Though, anything is possible. Slayer doing In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida?
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 05:46:00 AM: That Portrait was awesome. I liked the song you sent in my roulette Brent but that track from what I remember was better. Definitely have to check it out.
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Post by: TAC on June 06, 2017, 10:48:38 AM: So in my basement, I have this giant blue bin filled with old stuff. It has all of my concert pics, ticket stubs. That sort of thing. Today I finally grabbed it and organized my pictures and threw out some junk. Over the years, my pics had all become mixed up in giant piles.
My plan now is to eventually get them all scanned in. Going to crop out some arms and heads. Hopefully as I scan them, I will post a few. Have some special ones for you, Kade! ;D
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Post by: cfmoran13 on June 06, 2017, 11:29:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
So in my basement, I have this giant blue bin filled with old stuff. It has all of my concert pics, ticket stubs. That sort of thing.
Thankfully, I've been such a packrat, I've managed to hold onto all of my ticket stubs. I have all but maybe 5-6 that were shows where they either took them or didn't have physical tix. I have them in 3 books specifically made for concert tix. I have any picks gotten from shows alongside the corresponding tickets. They're cool to look through every now and then. My first concert (KISS @ MSG, 12/16/85) was $12.50 for the ticket. I miss those days!
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Post by: TAC on June 06, 2017, 12:20:39 PM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on June 06, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
My first concert (KISS @ MSG, 12/16/85) was $12.50 for the ticket. I miss those days!

*consults The TAC Book*

Saw that tour 6 days later at The Providence Civic Center. $13.75.

Got pics too!

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Kiss4.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Kiss4.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Kiss1.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Kiss1.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Kiss3.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Kiss3.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Kiss2.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Kiss2.jpg.html)
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 06, 2017, 12:30:44 PM: And I saw them the day before you Tim in the Centrum. I remember being disappointed that they played the same older songs on that tour from the Animalize tour. I was so glad to see variety on the HITS tour.
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Post by: TAC on June 06, 2017, 12:40:55 PM: I couldn't believe how short the show was, and they played Won't Get Fooled Again. I was like.."I wanna hear some KISS!!"
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 06, 2017, 12:56:43 PM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on June 06, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
So in my basement, I have this giant blue bin filled with old stuff. It has all of my concert pics, ticket stubs. That sort of thing.
Thankfully, I've been such a packrat, I've managed to hold onto all of my ticket stubs. I have all but maybe 5-6 that were shows where they either took them or didn't have physical tix. I have them in 3 books specifically made for concert tix. I have any picks gotten from shows alongside the corresponding tickets. They're cool to look through every now and then. My first concert (KISS @ MSG, 12/16/85) was $12.50 for the ticket. I miss those days!

I've never bothered to save my ticket stubs. Would really have helped because my memory is shit and I often can't remember who I've seen.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 06, 2017, 12:57:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 12:40:55 PM
I couldn't believe how short the show was, and they played Won't Get Fooled Again. I was like.."I wanna hear some KISS!!"

Yeah, I felt the same. I even passed on the Crazy Nights tour.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on June 06, 2017, 01:12:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 12:40:55 PM
I couldn't believe how short the show was, and they played Won't Get Fooled Again. I was like.."I wanna hear some KISS!!"
Only being twelve years old and it being my first concert, I didn't know any better. Looking back on it, I've come to see how much of a joke the concert length was. But, I got to see Gene breathe fire and see the fireworks in person.

As someone else said, the tour for HITS was lightyears better. That was them going back into the vault for the first time in years. Everything about that show, except maybe the opening band Little Caesar, was amazing.
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Post by: Prog Snob on June 06, 2017, 01:26:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 12:40:55 PM
I couldn't believe how short the show was, and they played Won't Get Fooled Again. I was like.."I wanna hear some KISS!!"

Gene realized it was more cost effective to play shorter sets.
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Post by: TAC on June 06, 2017, 01:47:08 PM: So in my box, I found this gem. I didn't even remember having this picture:

August 14th, 1991
Great Woods
Mansfield, MA

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/Lemmy_zpsdjriocvn.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/Lemmy_zpsdjriocvn.jpg.html)
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Post by: bl5150 on June 06, 2017, 04:46:31 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 06, 2017, 12:56:43 PM
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I've never bothered to save my ticket stubs. Would really have helped because my memory is shit and I often can't remember who I've seen.

I have a few but wish I had kept more. We have only had a small fraction of the bands come out here that you guys had the chance to see - I would've also been a bit young for most of them in their prime anyway I suppose. I love Australia but I do envy those who were old enough to attend gigs like these and living in the US/Europe.

Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
My plan now is to eventually get them all scanned in. Going to crop out some arms and heads. Hopefully as I scan them, I will post a few. Have some special ones for you, Kade! ;D

I have very little in the way of photos too as at most times I either didn't own a decent camera or they weren't allowed at venues. Or I was on the floor and didn't trust my ability to keep a camera in one piece.

Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
So in my basement, I have this giant blue bin filled with old stuff. It has all of my concert pics, ticket stubs. That sort of thing. Today I finally grabbed it and organized my pictures and threw out some junk. Over the years, my pics had all become mixed up in giant piles.

Sorry to hear about the piles Tim .
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 05:01:52 PM: I'm listening to Supremecy now and it's really good, but no match on LOD, not even close really IMO. So much Yngwie Fire and Ice feel on this one too.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 06, 2017, 05:08:58 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 05:01:52 PM
I'm listening to Supremecy now and it's really good, but no match on LOD, not even close really IMO. So much Yngwie Fire and Ice feel on this one too.

I was a bit disappointed in Supremacy initially but did find that it improved with time.
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Post by: TAC on June 06, 2017, 05:49:15 PM: Quote from: wolfking link=topic=42370.msg2324206#msg2324206date=1496576452
That Riot V was awesome.

Just got to this point in the podcast. Yes, that's an awesome album.

And Maiden!!!
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 06:32:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 06, 2017, 05:08:58 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 05:01:52 PM
I'm listening to Supremecy now and it's really good, but no match on LOD, not even close really IMO. So much Yngwie Fire and Ice feel on this one too.

I was a bit disappointed in Supremacy initially but did find that it improved with time.

Had a listen to Lost and I liked that more. Nothing compares to LOD though. Listening to that again, what a find, thanks Brent, we love you.

Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: wolfking link=topic=42370.msg2324206#msg2324206date=1496576452
That Riot V was awesome.

Just got to this point in the podcast. Yes, that's an awesome album.

And Maiden!!!

What album was that song off boys, it was a cracker!?
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Post by: TAC on June 06, 2017, 06:47:11 PM: Kade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVAZHdmRytM
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 09:28:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 06:47:11 PM
Kade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVAZHdmRytM

Here......We.....Fucking......Go!!!
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 09:51:39 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2017, 06:47:11 PM
Kade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVAZHdmRytM

Here......We.....Fucking......Go!!!

This is just honest, no bullshit heavy metal, good stuff, hard to fault for what's on offer here.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 06, 2017, 10:48:00 PM: Riot is such an underrated band. The only albums I ever got from them were Restless Breed, Fire Down Under and Thundersteel. I've heard other songs, which are all great too.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2017, 12:54:24 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 06, 2017, 06:32:11 PM
Listening to that again, what a find, thanks Brent, we love you.

Glad you're enjoying the show Kade.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4NNUJaWZAkE/UWGzOe-j2gI/AAAAAAAATHU/Tnc_TUfPVSY/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Fenech.jpg) :)
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2017, 05:36:14 AM: Fuck yeah, love that shit from Fenech, what a champ of a bloke!! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2017, 05:37:43 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 06, 2017, 10:48:00 PM
Riot is such an underrated band. The only albums I ever got from them were Restless Breed, Fire Down Under and Thundersteel. I've heard other songs, which are all great too.

I only have these two, but both are very good. They are just one of those bands with so many albums it can be a bit overwhelming to dive into and spend a lot of time listening to.
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Post by: Big Hath on June 07, 2017, 09:30:05 AM: great podcast. Big fan of the metal of course. Started off a little shaky with whatever that was, but the run from Helloween to Doctor Butcher was great. That Green Death track was awesome.

Symphony X! Just about the perfect band for me. That Portrait track was pretty cool. Can't say I was a fan of the earlier Morifade tracks, but the Domi<>Nation tracks were good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 07, 2017, 02:19:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 07, 2017, 05:37:43 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 06, 2017, 10:48:00 PM
Riot is such an underrated band. The only albums I ever got from them were Restless Breed, Fire Down Under and Thundersteel. I've heard other songs, which are all great too.

I only have these two, but both are very good. They are just one of those bands with so many albums it can be a bit overwhelming to dive into and spend a lot of time listening to.

From what I've seen and heard, Fire Down Under is their definitive album. For me, its the best I've heard from the band.
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2017, 02:20:34 PM: Narita is a must, as is Riot Live, the one with Guy Speranza.
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2017, 07:10:18 PM: Listening to this Elegy again, what an album. Listened to Lost again and that was a lot better the second time.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2017, 01:18:27 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2017, 02:20:34 PM
Narita is a must, as is Riot Live, the one with Guy Speranza.

Speaking of Riot

https://youtu.be/Cq-BAf6CJYA
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2017, 04:27:14 AM: I've never heard any song from Narita. I'll check it out today, lots of good reviews for that one along with Tims recommendation!
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2017, 09:47:26 AM: JJ, check out any of the following tracks.

Waiting For The Taking.
49er
Here We Come Again
Road Racin'
White Rock
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Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2017, 01:45:06 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 08, 2017, 04:27:14 AM
I've never heard any song from Narita. I'll check it out today, lots of good reviews for that one along with Tims recommendation!

What??? You mean you have resisted the lure of the awesome artwork? :lol
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Post by: Samsara on June 08, 2017, 02:55:43 PM: So like 25 years later, after just ignoring it for a long time, I finally listened to FIGHT. I'll be going out to the local used store tonight after work with some cash...

To be fair, I only REALLY got into Priest a few years ago. It took some time for some reason...after seeing them a couple of times, and seeing Halford solo. I now really enjoy Priest, and decided to branch out. So it wasn't like I didn't know FIGHT existed, I just ignored them. And I am going to correct that. Some damn good stuff...
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2017, 03:03:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 08, 2017, 09:47:26 AM
JJ, check out any of the following tracks.

Waiting For The Taking.
49er
Here We Come Again
Road Racin'
White Rock

As expected some good stuff! Riot has some of the most ridiculous album covers I've seen, but Narita just might take the cake.

As far as Fight goes, even though I'm a big Halford fan, I was just a casual fan of Fight. I liked War of Words much better than Small Deadly Space; which I could never get into at all. I liked the Fight songs alot more when Halford played them live on Live Insurrection.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2017, 03:09:59 PM: Fight did nothing for me. Too heavy. I got the impression he was going for a Machine Head sound so I had zero interest in that.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2017, 03:11:48 PM: Rob was really trying for the Pantera sound. I think he is way better off singing with traditional heavy metal.
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Post by: Samsara on June 08, 2017, 03:18:11 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 08, 2017, 03:11:48 PM
Rob was really trying for the Pantera sound. I think he is way better off singing with traditional heavy metal.

I really dig Pantera, so the appeal is certainly there, personally.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2017, 04:28:56 PM: Quote from: Samsara on June 08, 2017, 03:18:11 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 08, 2017, 03:11:48 PM
Rob was really trying for the Pantera sound. I think he is way better off singing with traditional heavy metal.

I really dig Pantera, so the appeal is certainly there, personally.

I couldn't stand them either.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2017, 04:41:44 PM: Post 10,000!!!
:metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2017, 05:55:59 PM: Quote from: Samsara on June 08, 2017, 02:55:43 PM
So like 25 years later, after just ignoring it for a long time, I finally listened to FIGHT. I'll be going out to the local used store tonight after work with some cash...

To be fair, I only REALLY got into Priest a few years ago. It took some time for some reason...after seeing them a couple of times, and seeing Halford solo. I now really enjoy Priest, and decided to branch out. So it wasn't like I didn't know FIGHT existed, I just ignored them. And I am going to correct that. Some damn good stuff...

War of Words is the better of the two for sure. I only really gave my attention to War of Words and don't remember much about ASDS to be honest. I might get that one back out and have a listen.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2017, 06:10:35 PM: War Of Words is awesome! Saw Fight in a small club open for Anthrax in 1993 Saw one dude get the most bloodied I ever saw in a pit.
We watched Anthrax from the balcony upstairs and Scott Travis stood right next to us.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2017, 06:35:53 PM: WOOOOOOOOO! :metal

WOOOOOOOOO! :metal

WOOOOOOOOO! :metal

WOOOOOOOOO! :metal

Happy 10,000th Jay
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2017, 06:41:00 PM: (https://media.tumblr.com/bcbb80613f0e413ef644a31359ed8bdf/tumblr_inline_mriykfmQJZ1qz4rgp.gif)
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 08, 2017, 07:17:43 PM: I keep getting a 404 error whenever I reply to THIS thread. :zeltar:

Happens everytime I quote JJ's 10000th... all I wanted to say was "Yeah bitch"
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2017, 07:22:09 PM: :metal :metal :metal :metal

Now happy 10,001!!!!
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Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2017, 07:26:25 PM: New Alice Cooper single is on Spotify apparently Tim
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2017, 07:28:30 PM: I haven't paid much attention to anything new from Alice Cooper after buying Welcome 2 My Nightmare and thinking it was a hunk of junk. But this sounds interesting with the original members playing on it.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2017, 07:48:30 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 08, 2017, 07:26:25 PM
New Alice Cooper single is on Spotify apparently Tim

On it, bro!
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2017, 07:55:26 PM: I can't find it!!! :censored

Supposedly being streamed on June 9th, which it is in Australia, but not here yet??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2017, 09:36:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 08, 2017, 07:55:26 PM
I can't find it!!! :censored

Supposedly being streamed on June 9th, which it is in Australia, but not here yet??

Oh man...............this song is the most amazing thing he has ever done :neverusethis:

Just kidding - as you said it is likely due to time difference. It's 1.30 in the afternoon here.

Will check it out and report back.

EDIT - we're not getting this one first. Must debut in US on 9th June your time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 09, 2017, 06:52:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 08, 2017, 05:55:59 PM
War of Words is the better of the two for sure. I only really gave my attention to War of Words and don't remember much about ASDS to be honest. I might get that one back out and have a listen.
Like has already been said, War of Words is definitely better than ASDS. It's just more of a straight-ahead metal album. To me, ASDS sounds a little more dated, like they were definitely going for a more modern ("of the times") sound/feel. Did they achieve that? Sure. Did it work for them? At times. Definitely not the whole way through the album.

Time to listen to some Fight.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 09, 2017, 07:01:59 AM: What's the opionion of Halfords other band, Two? That cd was a head scratcher to me and didn't sound like Rob at all. I think that was the point and it was so far removed from what made Rob sound like Rob. I didn't like it at all and ended up tossing it
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 09, 2017, 07:06:18 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 09, 2017, 07:01:59 AM
What's the opionion of Halfords other band, Two? That cd was a head scratcher to me and didn't sound like Rob at all. I think that was the point and it was so far removed from what made Rob sound like Rob. I didn't like it at all and ended up tossing it
Never heard the album at all. I know just about anyone who's heard it says it's awful. I've heard John 5 say that there's a different mix of that album where it's more of a metal feel and he'd love for that version to be released.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2017, 07:56:32 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 08, 2017, 07:17:43 PM
I keep getting a 404 error whenever I reply to THIS thread. :zeltar:

Happens everytime I quote JJ's 10000th... all I wanted to say was "Yeah bitch"

We all had that problem too mate. just too much awesomeness in that post!
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Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2017, 08:03:19 AM: Here's the Cooper boys;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF_w79N418Y

Didn't do much for me, but as you know I'm not a big Cooper guy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2017, 08:05:59 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0BdFmZrTN8

Unisonic live. Live cd has 12 tracks but the DVD has 6?!?!

Kiske sounds good but the solos are fucked. I think some obvious overdubs but I didn't watch it too closely.
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Post by: Samsara on June 09, 2017, 08:38:10 AM: I see Amazon has the live CD. ~~Is there a package I am missing with the DVD?~~ Nevermind, the 12.98 version was just updated to add that it has a second disc. That's it! Pre-ordered, along with Hansen & Friends. Bunch of good stuff!

In regard to Fight, I just went ahead and bought the Rob Halford box set with all of Fight, Two, and Halford. I only had Resurrection and I think one other disc, so everything was "new" to me. It had a note that was hand-signed by Rob in silver sharpie. Very cool. I had 35 bucks of credit, so the set only cost me 60 bucks.
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Post by: Grappler on June 09, 2017, 08:45:24 AM: Quote from: Samsara on June 09, 2017, 08:38:10 AM
In regard to Fight, I just went ahead and bought the Rob Halford box set with all of Fight, Two, and Halford. I only had Resurrection and I think one other disc, so everything was "new" to me. It had a note that was hand-signed by Rob in silver sharpie. Very cool. I had 35 bucks of credit, so the set only cost me 60 bucks.

Fight is awesome - I only got into them after Halford's Live Insurrection came out with a few Fight tracks on it and I found a used copy of War of Words that same year. That is a slamming album from start to finish and really doesn't let up on the heaviness. The demo disc is pretty neat, with more of a raw, aggressive sound to those songs, rather than the polished album versions. I tend to listen to the album versions more though.

I'd love that box set, but I'm only missing the last two Fight releases, Two, Winter Songs, and the non-Insurrection live albums.

PS: Listen to The Mower on Made of Metal. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 09, 2017, 09:43:51 AM: Made of Metal is a pretty good album but nowhere near the metal monsters that Resurrection and Crucible are. The Mower is definitely the standout track but it doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of the album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 09, 2017, 09:56:00 AM: It's crazy to think that Russ Parrish from Fight ended up being Satchel from Steel Panther.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 09, 2017, 11:25:53 AM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on June 09, 2017, 09:56:00 AM
It's crazy to think that Russ Parrish from Fight ended up being Satchel from Steel Panther.

Wow I never knew that
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2017, 12:21:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 09, 2017, 11:25:53 AM
Quote from: cfmoran13 on June 09, 2017, 09:56:00 AM
It's crazy to think that Russ Parrish from Fight ended up being Satchel from Steel Panther.

Wow I never knew that

Now if only someone made a Steel Panther album with sensible lyrics.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2017, 12:34:38 PM: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=nF_w79N418Y

Alice song. Not listened yet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2017, 12:53:27 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 09, 2017, 12:34:38 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=nF_w79N418Y

Alice song. Not listened yet.

The beginning sounds like Ozzy's Believer.

I like it. This album is already better than his last two. If this is the best song, I'll be disappoint, but I like the direction this is in.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2017, 01:07:28 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/unisonic-featuring-former-helloween-members-to-release-live-in-wacken-cd-dvd-digital-in-july-unisonic-live-video-streaming
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2017, 01:39:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 09, 2017, 12:53:27 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 09, 2017, 12:34:38 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=nF_w79N418Y

Alice song. Not listened yet.

The beginning sounds like Ozzy's Believer.

I like it. This album is already better than his last two. If this is the best song, I'll be disappoint, but I like the direction this is in.

Hmm. Average old school Alice. Nothing to get excited about, but I don't expect to either. Last album I liked was Last Temptation.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2017, 01:48:31 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 09, 2017, 01:39:36 PM
Hmm. Average old school Alice. Nothing to get excited about, but I don't expect to either. Last album I liked was Last Temptation.

Last album I liked was The Eyes Of Alice Cooper. And Dirty Diamonds was OK.

I'll take "average old school Alice" everytime. Just don't give me something that sucks!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 09, 2017, 03:04:44 PM: That Alice Cooper song has a pretty cool vibe to it, but overall it didn't do much for me. I would be interested in hearing some other songs from it along with Tim's review.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2017, 03:44:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 09, 2017, 03:04:44 PM
That Alice Cooper song has a pretty cool vibe to it, but overall it didn't do much for me. I would be interested in hearing some other songs from it along with Tim's review.

I think you nailed it, Jason. The vibe is much better than the actual song, and it makes me really look forward to the rest of the album.

Alice Cooper has done so many things, anyone merely dipping their toes into it may be hard to hook. But if you can take what you like and leave the rest, that's cool too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2017, 03:51:03 PM: Anyone heard the new Mark Slaughter album. Yeah, close your ears Tim :lol
It's pretty good though he sounds like Michael Starr. This could be the Steel Panther with normal lyrics I was asking for. Stick Satchel on guitar and were there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2017, 03:54:40 PM: :lol

I hate his voice!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2017, 04:12:53 PM: I wasn't a fan back in the day. It's ok n this as the high pitched screech is gone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 09, 2017, 06:18:06 PM: A segue from Alice Cooper to Mark Slaughter by Paul is cause for Tim to spontaneous combust, just like Spinal Taps drummer Peter James Bond.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 09, 2017, 06:22:25 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 09, 2017, 03:51:03 PM
Anyone heard the new Mark Slaughter album. Yeah, close your ears Tim :lol
It's pretty good though he sounds like Michael Starr. This could be the Steel Panther with normal lyrics I was asking for. Stick Satchel on guitar and were there.

I spun it once. I have always been a fan of his voice. I enjoyed this album well enough, but not well enough to go back to it. Too much other fantastic stuff of late warrants my listening attention.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2017, 06:28:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 09, 2017, 06:18:06 PM
A segue from Alice Cooper to Mark Slaughter by Paul is cause for Tim to spontaneous combust, just like Spinal Taps drummer Peter James Bond.
Ironically, I saw Mark Slaughter when Vinnie Vincent Invasion opened for Alice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 11, 2017, 01:09:01 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/rob-zombie-nobody-gives-a-shit-if-you-are-making-new-records-anymore

Actually nobody gives a shit if YOU are making new records anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 11, 2017, 02:04:27 PM: I saw Rob Zombie live once on a double bill with Alice Cooper. I couldn't believe it but Alice opened the show and Rob was the headliner!
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Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2017, 04:05:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 11, 2017, 01:09:01 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/rob-zombie-nobody-gives-a-shit-if-you-are-making-new-records-anymore

Actually nobody gives a shit if YOU are making new records anymore.

Haha, nice Tim.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 11, 2017, 07:18:22 PM: I'll say this though. I saw White Zombie open for Anthrax in 1993 and they were amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 12, 2017, 07:15:06 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 11, 2017, 07:18:22 PM
I'll say this though. I saw White Zombie open for Anthrax in 1993 and they were amazing.
Quicksand, White Zombie, Anthrax was a great show. I saw that at an equestrian center in Maryland. Everything about that show was amazing... except for the coating of dirt in my throat from the clouds of dirt kicked up in the mosh pits.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2017, 06:05:36 PM: Finally checked out the Alice track - pretty cool. Very old style and I imagine it'll appeal to his early fans. It's actually a song that I could imagine Ozzy singing - got a very similar vibe to what he might do on a less metallic solo album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2017, 08:24:34 PM: Apparently German "thrash metal legends" ::) Accept are coming out to Oz for one show (Melbourne only) in September. I reckon Wolf in particular is a cool dude but I ain't paying $200 on top of the ticket to have 20 secs with them for a photo. $80 for the gig? Maybe.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2017, 05:47:06 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 12, 2017, 08:24:34 PM
Apparently German "thrash metal legends" ::) Accept are coming out to Oz for one show (Melbourne only) in September. I reckon Wolf in particular is a cool dude but I ain't paying $200 on top of the ticket to have 20 secs with them for a photo. $80 for the gig? Maybe.

These meet and greet packages are becoming a joke.

I went to the Alter Bridge one in April and it was really a complete waste of time and money.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 13, 2017, 08:01:56 AM: I can't say I've ever paid for a meet and greet with a band before. But I would gladly pay $200 for a m&g with Rush, Maiden or Priest. Not sure about Accept though.

I did just pay $100 for a m&g with Chris Jericho in August, I'll see how that turns out.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 13, 2017, 08:26:55 AM: Maybe I'm the odd one but I never saw the appeal of a meet & greet. If I had the chance to talk in depth for a longer time with my favorite musicians that would maybe interest me. But shake their hands, say hello and have a picture taken and then moving on? No, thanks. And I wouldn't be interested in such a thing, even if I didn't have to pay for it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on June 13, 2017, 08:38:14 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 13, 2017, 08:26:55 AM
Maybe I'm the odd one but I never saw the appeal of a meet & greet. If I had the chance to talk in depth for a longer time with my favorite musicians that would maybe interest me. But shake their hands, say hello and have a picture taken and then moving on? No, thanks. And I wouldn't be interested in such a thing, even if I didn't have to pay for it.

I felt the same way, initially. And my wife and I were steadfast against it. But we opened up a little bit on it if the price is reasonable. She did it for like $30 for Firewind on their last U.S. tour with Apollo as their singer. Then he left, but she got to see him and they spent a lot of time. We experimented doing it for Sevendust on their Bonfires tour a few years back. That was $50 per person. It was totally worth it. Good hang time, signing whatever, smiles all around, etc. We splurged on Alter Bridge on the Fortress tour. I think that was like 100 per person. However, while pricey, I felt what we got was worth it. We got in early, got to see a half-hour soundcheck, got special signed merch (a lithograph if I remember commemorating their anniversary and us as VIPs), and then we did the photo and meet and greet (which was a little rushed, but we got to ask questions and share some laughs).

That's probably the cap, money-wise, we'd ever spend, honestly. But if I see it for $50 or under for other bands, with good exposure and hang time, I'll pick it up, just to guarantee I get some pics with my favorite bands and some stuff signed for the walls. But if it goes above 50 or 60 bucks, it'd really depend on a lot factors for me to pull the trigger on it (who the band is, how much they tour, how much I like them, etc.)
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Post by: cfmoran13 on June 13, 2017, 09:06:36 AM: I went to a KISS meet and greet back during the Revenge line-up days. It was to commemorate the release of KISS Konfidential on VHS. I think it was at the Limelight. If you bought a KISS CD at Sam Goody's, you got a pass to the meet and greet for a penny. Sadly, I found this out little tidbit while in line at the event. I drove into NYC with my little sister to go to the meet and greet. We were about to leave when someone behind me had 2 extra passes and gave them to us for nothing. They played the Konfidential video on tons of TV's while you waited. The four of them stood behind a table, signed what you had, shook your hand and you could take their picture (from across the table). Afterward, there was a concert with a few bands (not KISS) for like a $15 ticket. If I'm not mistaken, Meanstreak may have been one of them?

All in all, it was a pretty good deal for a really cheap price.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 13, 2017, 03:05:57 PM: Brent... did you ever post setlists of the last two podcasts? I'm most of the way thru the current one - lots of good stuff I didn't know (as usual!). But, I've been multi-tasking, and unable to really take note of song titles / band names. Setlist would help.
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Post by: TAC on June 13, 2017, 03:08:48 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 13, 2017, 03:05:57 PM
Brent... did you ever post setlists of the last two podcasts? I'm most of the way thru the current one - lots of good stuff I didn't know (as usual!). But, I've been multi-tasking, and unable to really take note of song titles / band names. Setlist would help.

Ditto.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 13, 2017, 04:14:46 PM: Nice back-to-back of The Poodles and Poverty's No Crime.

Also, did anyone else find the volume level of the Podcast lower than usual? Even the tracks themselves.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 13, 2017, 04:15:49 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 13, 2017, 04:14:46 PM
Also, did anyone else find the volume level of the Podcast lower than usual? Even the tracks themselves.

What?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2017, 04:15:55 PM: Gotta be honest, most of Brent's podcast I have to turn things up really loud.
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Post by: TAC on June 13, 2017, 04:17:35 PM: That's cuz it's so mmmmmeeeeeeetttttaaaallllllll :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 13, 2017, 06:00:05 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 13, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
Gotta be honest, most of Brent's podcast I have to turn things up really loud.

Yeah, the talkie talkie parts have always been a little low. But this time around, I had to crank my speakers to about 80% of max just to hear at a normal level.

#expectingsmartasscomments
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on June 14, 2017, 08:25:26 AM: so I think early on he had some issues with the podcast being too loud causing some of the louder songs to be distorted. That has been corrected and the podcast is more uniform in loudness, but maybe he's over-corrected a bit causing an overall low volume.
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Post by: Big Hath on June 14, 2017, 08:29:34 AM: here's the April podcast track listing:

The Angels - Take a Long Line
Rose Tattoo - Rock 'n' Roll Outlaw
AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
1st Avenue - Help Me Out
21 Guns - These Eyes
220 Volt - The Harder They Come
48 Crash - Take Me to the Top
707 - Hell or High Water
Accept - Break the Ice
Aces High - Never Again
Aces High - In a Wink of an Eye
Airrace - First One Over the Line
Alcatrazz - General Hospital
Alice Cooper - The World Needs Guts
Alien - Brave New Love
The Almighty - Bandaged Knees
Andy Timmons - Carpe Diem
Angelica - Only A Man
Angry - Motorbike Song
Arcade - Nothin' to Lose
Arch Rival - Rock The Night Away
Arch Rival - Fast Lane to a Slow Pain
Asgard - Courage-Land of the Dark Wood
Autograph - Turn Up the Radio
Aviator - Through The Night
Axel Rudi Pell - Unchain the Thunder
Backbone Slide - House Of Thunder
Babylon A.D. - The Kid Goes Wild
Bad Company - Fearless
Bad Habit - Hunger
Bad Moon Rising - Dark Side of Babylon
Bad Moon Rising - Blood on the Streets
Badd Boyz - Leave It to the Law
Badd Boyz - I Don't Want to Hear Your Heart Break
Badlands - Hard Driver
Baltimoore - Lucky River
Bang Tango - Someone Like You
Bangalore Choir - All or Nothin'
Banshee - All Alone
Barren Cross - Out of Time
Baton Rouge - Hot Blood Movin'
Beggars & Thieves - No More Broken Dreams
Biloxi - Run for Your Life
Black Bambi - Broken Mirror
Black Roses - Soldiers of the Night
Black Roses - Paradise (We're on Our Way)
Blackfoot - Drivin' Fool
Blackthorne - We Won't Be Forgotten
Blonz - Miracles
Blue Blud - Don't Turn Out The Light
Blue Murder - Valley of the Kings
Blue Tears - Thunder in the Night
Bon Jovi - Roulette
Bone Machine - Don't Mean Shit
Bonfire - Never Surrender
Bonham - Wait For You
The Brave - Big World
Brazen Abbot - Eye of the Storm
Breaker - Ten Seconds In
Brian McDonald - When the Lightning Strikes
Britny Fox - Closer to Your Love
Brother Cane - Got No Shame
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Post by: Big Hath on June 14, 2017, 08:34:47 AM: and the most recent one:

Steve Stevens - Atomic Playboys
Warrior - Fighting For The Earth
Warrior - We Are One
Helloween - Sole Survivor
Megadeth - Hangar 18
Savatage - He Carves His Stone
Green Death - Manufacturing Evil
Judas Priest - Reckless
Doctor Butcher - The Altar
Kiss - Cold Gin
Kiss - Black Diamond
Kiss - I Want You
Suspyre - Blood and Passion
Tad Morose - Morning Sun
Symphony X - Electric Messiah
Riot - Bring the Hammer Down
Iron Maiden - Killers
Rage - True Face in Everyone
Morifade - World of Steel
Morifade - Reborn
Morifade - In Martyria
Morifade - Words I Never Speak
Morifade - Panopticon
Morifade - Memory's End
Morifade - As Time Decides
Elegy - I'm No Fool
The Poodles - Before I Die
Poverty's No Crime - Access Denied
W.A.S.P. - I Wanna Be Somebody
Michael Schenker Group - Looking For Love
Def Leppard - On Through The Night
Demon - Prey
Starblind - A Dying Son
Portrait - Lily
Alpha Tiger - Beneath the Surface
Holy Soldier - Stranger
King James - Hard Road to Go
Chris Barker - No Way Out
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 14, 2017, 11:31:27 AM: Rock on with your bad self!
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 14, 2017, 03:02:36 PM: Brent, what do you rate those three albums from Brother Cane? They were a pretty solid rock band in the 90's and had a bit of a classic rock bluesy sound. Maybe an updated Badlands sound. They had the s/t with Got No Shame on it, then Seeds and Wishpool. I didn't really care for the s/t that much but the second and third were good. "And Fools Shine On" and "The Crow Flies" were probably my favourite.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on June 15, 2017, 06:29:18 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 14, 2017, 03:02:36 PM
Brent, what do you rate those three albums from Brother Cane? They were a pretty solid rock band in the 90's and had a bit of a classic rock bluesy sound. Maybe an updated Badlands sound. They had the s/t with Got No Shame on it, then Seeds and Wishpool. I didn't really care for the s/t that much but the second and third were good. "And Fools Shine On" and "The Crow Flies" were probably my favourite.
I'd have to say that the first album is probably my least favorite, too. Seemed a bit forced. The 2nd and 3rd albums were both really solid. I got to see them on the Wishpool tour at the Birch Hill in NJ. Great show. It's a shame these guys never got huge.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 15, 2017, 02:00:35 PM: Too grungy for me, in a Creed/Nickleback sort of way, though I liked that Got No Shame song.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 16, 2017, 04:15:13 PM: Frontiers have announced a new project with Ripper, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder, produced by Roy Z. Might give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Though I'm no great fan of Ripper. He's got a great metal voice, he's just sang on some shit albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2017, 06:20:36 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 16, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
Frontiers have announced a new project with Ripper, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder, produced by Roy Z. Might give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Though I'm no great fan of Ripper. He's got a great metal voice, he's just sang on some shit albums.

I'm quite interested in hearing how this one turns out. Besides that latest Charred album, Ripper hasn't been releasing much in the last couple of years. He had mentioned that the "Project Rock" band actually recorded their debut album, but it got shelved for whatever reason. But a Ripper/Caffery/Zonder w Roy Z combo sounds very good to me.
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Post by: wolfking on June 19, 2017, 05:14:57 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 16, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
Frontiers have announced a new project with Ripper, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder, produced by Roy Z. Might give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Though I'm no great fan of Ripper. He's got a great metal voice, he's just sang on some shit albums.

That's a really interesting trio. Zonder one of my fav drummers and Ripper has the pipes. Caffery is an amazing shredder too. The first couple of his solo albums show some real amazing lead playing. Roy Z hey?! I hope Del Vicchio doesn't try and do the pop in on Roy while this is happening.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 19, 2017, 11:26:18 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 19, 2017, 05:14:57 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 16, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
Frontiers have announced a new project with Ripper, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder, produced by Roy Z. Might give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Though I'm no great fan of Ripper. He's got a great metal voice, he's just sang on some shit albums.

That's a really interesting trio. Zonder one of my fav drummers and Ripper has the pipes. Caffery is an amazing shredder too. The first couple of his solo albums show some real amazing lead playing. Roy Z hey?! I hope Del Vicchio doesn't try and do the pop in on Roy while this is happening.

I think we should picket the studio to keep him away :biggrin:
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Post by: Samsara on June 20, 2017, 09:39:10 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 16, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
Frontiers have announced a new project with Ripper, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder, produced by Roy Z. Might give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Though I'm no great fan of Ripper. He's got a great metal voice, he's just sang on some shit albums.

I missed that Zonder was a part of this. Wow, very cool. Three of my favorite musicians together. I wonder who is going to be on bass?

Yeah, I hope Del Vecchio stays far away.

Any release date or more info on the project?
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Post by: Lowdz on June 20, 2017, 10:41:17 AM: Quote from: Samsara on June 20, 2017, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 16, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
Frontiers have announced a new project with Ripper, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder, produced by Roy Z. Might give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Though I'm no great fan of Ripper. He's got a great metal voice, he's just sang on some shit albums.

I missed that Zonder was a part of this. Wow, very cool. Three of my favorite musicians together. I wonder who is going to be on bass?

Yeah, I hope Del Vecchio stays far away.

Any release date or more info on the project?

The guy from Death I believe.
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Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2017, 06:11:31 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 20, 2017, 10:41:17 AM
Quote from: Samsara on June 20, 2017, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 16, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
Frontiers have announced a new project with Ripper, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder, produced by Roy Z. Might give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Though I'm no great fan of Ripper. He's got a great metal voice, he's just sang on some shit albums.

I missed that Zonder was a part of this. Wow, very cool. Three of my favorite musicians together. I wonder who is going to be on bass?

Yeah, I hope Del Vecchio stays far away.

Any release date or more info on the project?

The guy from Death I believe.

Steve Di Giorgio? Sweet. Makes sense since he and Tim are in Charred Walls together.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2017, 01:00:20 PM: Yes, that's the dude.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2017, 01:25:15 PM: Some great news here. AFM have just signed Nocturnal Rites with a new album ready to go in September 🤘🤘

Impossibly high hopes for this
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2017, 02:51:54 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 21, 2017, 01:25:15 PM
Some great news here. AFM have just signed Nocturnal Rites with a new album ready to go in September 🤘🤘

Impossibly high hopes for this

:panicattack:
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Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2017, 03:07:09 PM: I did that very dance when I read the news :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on June 21, 2017, 04:01:17 PM: You guys digging The Ferrymen album at all? I'm having trouble latching onto it.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2017, 04:56:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 21, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
You guys digging The Ferrymen album at all? I'm having trouble latching onto it.

Yeah, I like it. Certainly improved with a couple more plays. Not Magnus' best but a good album. Romero is great on it.
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Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2017, 06:14:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 21, 2017, 01:25:15 PM
Some great news here. AFM have just signed Nocturnal Rites with a new album ready to go in September

Impossibly high hopes for this

I just blew!

(https://i.imgur.com/0w5UAMX.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2017, 06:19:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 21, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
You guys digging The Ferrymen album at all? I'm having trouble latching onto it.

Can't get a copy so will have to resort online.

Got the Jorn though which I'm not sure on yet if I like it or not.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 22, 2017, 04:32:41 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 21, 2017, 04:56:54 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 21, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
You guys digging The Ferrymen album at all? I'm having trouble latching onto it.

Yeah, I like it. Certainly improved with a couple more plays. Not Magnus' best but a good album. Romero is great on it.

This. I'd say it didn't quite meet my expectations. Excluding the final two tracks, the 2nd half of the album is weaker than the 1st.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 22, 2017, 05:37:48 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 22, 2017, 04:32:41 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 21, 2017, 04:56:54 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 21, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
You guys digging The Ferrymen album at all? I'm having trouble latching onto it.

Yeah, I like it. Certainly improved with a couple more plays. Not Magnus' best but a good album. Romero is great on it.

This. I'd say it didn't quite meet my expectations. Excluding the final two tracks, the 2nd half of the album is weaker than the 1st.

Oh boy. I couldn't get through the first half.
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Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2017, 05:39:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 22, 2017, 05:37:48 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 22, 2017, 04:32:41 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 21, 2017, 04:56:54 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 21, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
You guys digging The Ferrymen album at all? I'm having trouble latching onto it.

Yeah, I like it. Certainly improved with a couple more plays. Not Magnus' best but a good album. Romero is great on it.

This. I'd say it didn't quite meet my expectations. Excluding the final two tracks, the 2nd half of the album is weaker than the 1st.

Oh boy. I couldn't get through the first half.

Why do you think that is mate?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 22, 2017, 05:43:45 AM: Not sure. That's why I threw it out there. The playing seems very good. The vocals are good. But the songs...I just feel like I've heard this album 100 times before. I kind of just started on it, so I'll give it some more time. Too much talent. But there are plenty of projects where the talent far outweighs the quality of the tracks.
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Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2017, 05:48:47 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 22, 2017, 05:43:45 AM
Not sure. That's why I threw it out there. The playing seems very good. The vocals are good. But the songs...I just feel like I've heard this album 100 times before. I kind of just started on it, so I'll give it some more time. Too much talent. But there are plenty of projects where the talent far outweighs the quality of the tracks.

I gotta get onto it. I can see what you might be saying in regards to what Magnus has been doing though.

I'm feeling that with the Jorn. Nothing new here whatsoever. It's decent, but it's hard to see the point. That's nothing new with a lot of new releases though. Also, Alex's leads are pissing me off too. Same thoughtless one dimensional over exaggerated bends that a lot of the time get repeated and repeated it just makes me cringe. Really novice like playing from him on this one. Gus G eats him up for breakfast. I think I'd enjoy it more if Gus played leads on the whole thing.
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Post by: TAC on June 22, 2017, 05:56:58 AM: I'm not even attempting the Jorn.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 22, 2017, 12:33:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 22, 2017, 05:56:58 AM
I'm not even attempting the Jorn.

Me neither. If Wolf isn't feeling it, then I won't even bother.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2017, 04:33:28 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 22, 2017, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 22, 2017, 05:56:58 AM
I'm not even attempting the Jorn.

Me neither. If Wolf isn't feeling it, then I won't even bother.

It just has that generic Frontiers feel that we've all come to know and expect, where there's no real vision and it's just randomly written tracks that seem to flow together without much purpose at all. There's some good stuff and I am giving it a few chances but I'd actually prefer the Dracula thing he did with Trond Holter I think.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 22, 2017, 08:26:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 22, 2017, 04:33:28 PM
I'd actually prefer the Dracula thing he did with Trond Holter I think.

This I can completely agree with - that was very creative and interesting. But I did actually REALLY like the new release. Definitely one of my favourites from June.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2017, 09:47:15 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 22, 2017, 08:26:32 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 22, 2017, 04:33:28 PM
I'd actually prefer the Dracula thing he did with Trond Holter I think.

This I can completely agree with - that was very creative and interesting. But I did actually REALLY like the new release. Definitely one of my favourites from June.

Favourites from June? Damn, I'm struggling listing favourites from the whole year let alone month by month!

And yeah, the Dracula was hard to get into at first, but it grew into a really unique piece of work IMO. Amazing guitar playing too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 23, 2017, 06:31:56 AM: June included Secret Sphere, The Ferrymen, Jorn, DGM (live), Anthriel and Primal Fear (live). Granted, I've yet to watch the Primal Fear BluRay. There's been a lot of good stuff this year so far. Lots of tripe too, but plenty of excellent releases.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 23, 2017, 11:47:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 22, 2017, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 22, 2017, 08:26:32 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 22, 2017, 04:33:28 PM
I'd actually prefer the Dracula thing he did with Trond Holter I think.

This I can completely agree with - that was very creative and interesting. But I did actually REALLY like the new release. Definitely one of my favourites from June.

Favourites from June? Damn, I'm struggling listing favourites from the whole year let alone month by month!

And yeah, the Dracula was hard to get into at first, but it grew into a really unique piece of work IMO. Amazing guitar playing too.

Trend is excellent. I chatted with him when I saw WigWam a few years ago. Nice guy. Bloody tall to 😀

I really liked the first couple of WigWam albums.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 23, 2017, 12:01:22 PM: New Ten track. Not listened yet.

https://youtu.be/HqCgx08JAxs
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 23, 2017, 12:36:46 PM: I don't know much about Ten, but that was a pretty good song. Kind of has a Black Star Riders/Thin Lizzy vibe, which is cool.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 23, 2017, 12:57:59 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 23, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
I don't know much about Ten, but that was a pretty good song. Kind of has a Black Star Riders/Thin Lizzy vibe, which is cool.

You've got some homework to do this weekend Jason 😀
Listen to Name of the Rose, Spellbound and Far Beyond The World. Some great stuff in there.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 23, 2017, 12:59:34 PM: I'll check out those songs right away!
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Post by: Lowdz on June 23, 2017, 01:01:07 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 23, 2017, 12:59:34 PM
I'll check out those songs right away!

The albums Jason, the albums 😀
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Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2017, 05:53:05 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 23, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
New Ten track. Not listened yet.

https://youtu.be/HqCgx08JAxs

Meh. Heard it all before Gary.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 23, 2017, 07:39:49 PM: Is Gary Moore credited in the songwriting? ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on June 24, 2017, 02:09:24 AM: I like the music, very Lizzy/Gary Moore inspired, but the vocals are reminding me of other Ten songs and as Gaz said, heard it all before.
The problem I think is that Gary's voice is very one dimensional and lacking in range, so everything starts to sound the same.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 24, 2017, 05:22:56 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 24, 2017, 02:09:24 AM
I like the music, very Lizzy/Gary Moore inspired, but the vocals are reminding me of other Ten songs and as Gaz said, heard it all before.
The problem I think is that Gary's voice is very one dimensional and lacking in range, so everything starts to sound the same.

Well, once you're 14 albums in (I think that's the count), it is hard to be doing new/different stuff - unless you try to astonish people. How many bands have something new/original/innovative at album #14?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 24, 2017, 01:57:08 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 24, 2017, 05:22:56 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 24, 2017, 02:09:24 AM
I like the music, very Lizzy/Gary Moore inspired, but the vocals are reminding me of other Ten songs and as Gaz said, heard it all before.
The problem I think is that Gary's voice is very one dimensional and lacking in range, so everything starts to sound the same.

Well, once you're 14 albums in (I think that's the count), it is hard to be doing new/different stuff - unless you try to astonish people. How many bands have something new/original/innovative at album #14?

This happened long before album 14 though...
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 24, 2017, 03:26:32 PM: ^ Tru dat.
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Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2017, 03:43:59 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 24, 2017, 05:22:56 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 24, 2017, 02:09:24 AM
I like the music, very Lizzy/Gary Moore inspired, but the vocals are reminding me of other Ten songs and as Gaz said, heard it all before.
The problem I think is that Gary's voice is very one dimensional and lacking in range, so everything starts to sound the same.

Well, once you're 14 albums in (I think that's the count), it is hard to be doing new/different stuff - unless you try to astonish people. How many bands have something new/original/innovative at album #14?

Not album 14 but.....album 13.......DT?! ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 25, 2017, 08:37:08 PM: I was cranking out the album Metal Heart by Accept. The cd obviously kicks ass but the video for Midnight Mover is just something else. I watched it again and it's truly tough to watch in its entirety. I did it, but it's not a pleasant watch. If you don't know what I'm talking about, check it out.

If you were watching MTV at the time of its release, do you remember if Midnight Mover got much airplay? I can't imagine it got played that much lol
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Post by: TAC on June 25, 2017, 08:40:55 PM: I don't remember it at all TBH. They definitely played Balls To The Wall.
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 25, 2017, 08:46:25 PM: They were really solid live. That was the tour with Motley Crue, Y&T, and Helix which didn't play because their instruments didn't show up. I was so disappointed. I wanted to see them live.
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Post by: TAC on June 25, 2017, 08:53:19 PM: If one of those four couldn't play, Helix would be the pick!
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 25, 2017, 08:57:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2017, 08:53:19 PM
If one of those four couldn't play, Helix would be the pick!

I still was on their bandwagon. I played the hell out of "Long Way To Heaven."
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 25, 2017, 09:04:17 PM: I'm seeing Helix/Lee Aaron in a few months. Playing the local theatre here.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 25, 2017, 09:08:06 PM: It will be Chad and Ricky from Trailer Park Boys in the front row! Gimme an R!!

I'll also mention that I would consider Lee Aaron to have my favourite female vocals. She has some great tunes!
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Post by: King Postwhore on June 25, 2017, 09:14:33 PM: Chad, is that the small theater close to your house you've seen many shows at?
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 26, 2017, 04:44:17 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on June 25, 2017, 09:14:33 PM
Chad, is that the small theater close to your house you've seen many shows at?

Indeed. Fairly similar to the Majestic - but seating is a bowl, rather than all straight-ahead.
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Post by: TAC on June 26, 2017, 02:32:11 PM: King Diamond's Give Me Your Soul...Please, was released 10 years ago today. Which obviously means that King Diamond has not released an album in ten fucking years! WTF??
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Post by: Big Hath on June 26, 2017, 10:33:22 PM: hasn't he had a lot of medical issues?
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Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2017, 05:25:16 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on June 26, 2017, 10:33:22 PM
hasn't he had a lot of medical issues?

He had heart bypass surgery quite a few years ago but has been in good health for years now going by interviews. He's quit smoking and said he's been looking after himself and feels better than ever. Not sure what the hold up is between him and Andy, but they just keep fucking everyone around with no real updates and it's turning into a Tool like situation now.
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Post by: Grappler on June 27, 2017, 07:58:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 27, 2017, 05:25:16 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on June 26, 2017, 10:33:22 PM
hasn't he had a lot of medical issues?

He had heart bypass surgery quite a few years ago but has been in good health for years now going by interviews. He's quit smoking and said he's been looking after himself and feels better than ever. Not sure what the hold up is between him and Andy, but they just keep fucking everyone around with no real updates and it's turning into a Tool like situation now.

They recorded a few of the Abigail anniversary shows last in 2015 for a DVD release. Who knows when that will come out though.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 27, 2017, 10:09:37 AM: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=dV9f2Ces2pE

Kee of Hearts video. Song is ok, mainly because Tommy Heart has a great voice. But it's a great example of why some bands should not make videos 😀
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Post by: TAC on June 27, 2017, 10:49:01 AM: You are so right. The song is definitely decent enough, but that video. That singer is just creepy.
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Post by: TAC on June 27, 2017, 02:42:28 PM: So everyday at work, I hear this female sung song that has struck a nerve. It contains the line "This boy is cracking up" in the chorus. I hear this song, and I immediately think that this has a total Phil Lynott lyric. This is the type of song he would sing.

So I type in "This boy is cracking up" in the search bar on youtube and up comes a few versions by The Corrs. Bam..this is the song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICWPITIV7I4

Come to find out....it's a cover of a track from one of Phil's solo albums! (Which I've never really bothered with)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2OcIqwmSaY

I feel so proud of myself! ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on June 27, 2017, 02:56:47 PM: There's a reason you haven't bothered with Phil's solo stuff. Most of it is shit.
The Corrs were a decent pop band, but they are definitely better to watch than listen to. ;)
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Post by: TAC on June 27, 2017, 03:08:27 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 27, 2017, 02:56:47 PM
There's a reason you haven't bothered with Phil's solo stuff. Most of it is shit.

Right, that's what I've understood. But with this revelation, and with so much crap being released these days, I may dig deeper. I LOVE Phil Lynott and Thin Lizzy.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 27, 2017, 04:38:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 27, 2017, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 27, 2017, 02:56:47 PM
There's a reason you haven't bothered with Phil's solo stuff. Most of it is shit.

Right, that's what I've understood. But with this revelation, and with so much crap being released these days, I may dig deeper. I LOVE Phil Lynott and Thin Lizzy.

I have Solo In Soho. It's unmistakably Phil but it lacks guitars. I really like the song Dear Miss Lonely Hearts. It was the first song I taught myself to play on guitar by ear.
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Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2017, 05:14:07 AM: Quote from: Grappler on June 27, 2017, 07:58:58 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 27, 2017, 05:25:16 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on June 26, 2017, 10:33:22 PM
hasn't he had a lot of medical issues?

He had heart bypass surgery quite a few years ago but has been in good health for years now going by interviews. He's quit smoking and said he's been looking after himself and feels better than ever. Not sure what the hold up is between him and Andy, but they just keep fucking everyone around with no real updates and it's turning into a Tool like situation now.

They recorded a few of the Abigail anniversary shows last in 2015 for a DVD release. Who knows when that will come out though.

This is what Andy offered up in an interview last month;

On the progress of the songwriting sessions for KING DIAMOND's long-awaited follow-up to 2007's "Give Me Your Soul … Please" album:

Andy: "I can't really say that we have started working on it yet, but it's coming. So as soon as we have some time, we're gonna start working on new songs."

On the KING DIAMOND songwriting process:

Andy: "What [KING DIAMOND singer and namesake and I] do is we both have our studios, so we send files [to each other], and if there's something that needs to be changed, we just talk about it and have it changed."

On the status of KING DIAMOND's much-anticipated DVD:

Andy: "We're actually still working on it, because we have a few options — different shows and stuff — so we have to make a decision which one is the best. And it's hard to know that before you start working on it. And you know the picture and the sound — that combination — have to match, of course, and when you see the whole thing, [you go], 'Okay, that show is really good.' So we're still working on it. And I have no release date; I'm sorry about that. We just want it to be really, really good."

Bascially nothing. They have been working on a DVD for over 10 years now.
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Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2017, 05:38:09 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 27, 2017, 10:09:37 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=dV9f2Ces2pE

Kee of Hearts video. Song is ok, mainly because Tommy Heart has a great voice. But it's a great example of why some bands should not make videos 😀

Not bad at all actually.

They probably shouldn't have told the bass player about the video shoot though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 28, 2017, 09:35:46 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 28, 2017, 05:38:09 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 27, 2017, 10:09:37 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=dV9f2Ces2pE

Kee of Hearts video. Song is ok, mainly because Tommy Heart has a great voice. But it's a great example of why some bands should not make videos 😀

Not bad at all actually.

They probably shouldn't have told the bass player about the video shoot though.

Knew I'd seen him before 😀

(https://www.rockymusic.org/img/rhpscels/RHPSTrailerFrame_040L.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2017, 11:43:52 PM: :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on June 30, 2017, 11:28:05 AM: New Nocturnal Rites :metal

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=09e6d0Yr0e0
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Post by: wolfking on June 30, 2017, 03:42:09 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 30, 2017, 11:28:05 AM
New Nocturnal Rites :metal

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=09e6d0Yr0e0

Fucking awesome, sound like they never left. Can't believe these guys are back, so good. :metal

And Per Nilsson on lead guitar, gets better and better.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 01, 2017, 11:33:19 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 30, 2017, 03:42:09 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 30, 2017, 11:28:05 AM
New Nocturnal Rites :metal

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=09e6d0Yr0e0

Fucking awesome, sound like they never left. Can't believe these guys are back, so good. :metal

And Per Nilsson on lead guitar, gets better and better.

I thought they were finished. Came as a shock a few days ago when I saw the AFM press release.
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Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2017, 04:03:19 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 01, 2017, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 30, 2017, 03:42:09 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 30, 2017, 11:28:05 AM
New Nocturnal Rites :metal

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=09e6d0Yr0e0

Fucking awesome, sound like they never left. Can't believe these guys are back, so good. :metal

And Per Nilsson on lead guitar, gets better and better.

I thought they were finished. Came as a shock a few days ago when I saw the AFM press release.

They never announced anything. Nils left the band and they got some new fella and kept saying that were working on new stuff. Years went by and they just kind of vanished. Never even said anything about a hiatus or anything.
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Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2017, 04:53:21 AM: 'The Chance' from the new Masterplan Helloween cover album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv3-9ZkWVxY

Eh, I don't mind it as it's a bit different than the old version but I don't really see the point.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 02, 2017, 05:01:29 AM: "The Chance" is one of Helloween's most underrated tunes. My favorite from either Chameleon or Pink Bubbles.

This version is pretty cool, but not in the same league as the original
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2017, 05:06:36 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 02, 2017, 05:01:29 AM
"The Chance" is one of Helloween's most underrated tunes. My favorite from either Chameleon or Pink Bubbles.

This version is pretty cool, but not in the same league as the original

All of this.

As the track went on, the more I liked it. I can accept the different vocals, but I'll have to go back and read the press release again to read what Roland has to say about this album and why they did this again.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 02, 2017, 06:40:18 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 02, 2017, 05:01:29 AM
"The Chance" is one of Helloween's most underrated tunes. My favorite from either Chameleon or Pink Bubbles.

This version is pretty cool, but not in the same league as the original

Agreed on all points.

WTF is the point of this? Wasn't the last Masterplan album pretty good? How many years ago was that now?

Nothing against Rick Altzi, but The Chance proves that it's Kiske's world and every other singer is living in it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 02, 2017, 08:27:57 AM: New Accept!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFqFYHFNeCc

Man, this would be the perfect time to Kip-roll... but I'm not that uncivilized.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 02, 2017, 06:03:01 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 02, 2017, 08:27:57 AM
New Accept!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFqFYHFNeCc

Man, this would be the perfect time to Kip-roll... but I'm not that uncivilized.

:metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2017, 06:16:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 02, 2017, 06:40:18 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 02, 2017, 05:01:29 AM
"The Chance" is one of Helloween's most underrated tunes. My favorite from either Chameleon or Pink Bubbles.

This version is pretty cool, but not in the same league as the original

Agreed on all points.

WTF is the point of this? Wasn't the last Masterplan album pretty good? How many years ago was that now?

Nothing against Rick Altzi, but The Chance proves that it's Kiske's world and every other singer is living in it.

Yeah, the last album was excellent, shame about the production though.

This is what Roland has to say regarding this.

In a 2015 interview with Heavy Talk, Grapow said that "PumpKings" would contain "my favorite, let's say, ten [or] twelve [HELLOWEEN] songs" reworked "as a MASTERPLAN album with some HELLOWEEN melodies. And I think it's very close to MASTERPLAN, because I wrote these songs, like 'The Time Of The Oath', 'The Dark Ride' or 'Escalation 666'… 'The Chance', and many, many more. And I'm pretty sure people will love it… with [MASTERPLAN singer Rick Altzi's] voice."

Still don't get the point.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 03, 2017, 07:10:17 AM: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o928owvqcc4&feature=youtu.be

New Ten track. Rather bland ballad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2017, 09:29:22 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 03, 2017, 07:10:17 AM

New Ten track. Rather bland.

That's redundant. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2017, 03:53:19 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 03, 2017, 07:10:17 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o928owvqcc4&feature=youtu.be

New Ten track. Rather bland ballad.

I thought that was pretty good, best song out of the three and had a nice classic Ten feel.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 04, 2017, 06:50:17 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 03, 2017, 03:53:19 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 03, 2017, 07:10:17 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o928owvqcc4&feature=youtu.be

New Ten track. Rather bland ballad.

I thought that was pretty good, best song out of the three and had a nice classic Ten feel.

It was ok. Just bland. Not heard anything that has grabbed my interest yet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2017, 07:34:54 PM: I'm liking this Ferrymen album. I think Magnus has actually stepped it up a little with this one and there's some really good songs. He's put in an effort here. Ronnie's voice is awesome too. Worthy of a purchase I think.
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Post by: TAC on July 04, 2017, 07:46:42 PM: I'll have to give it a bit more.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2017, 09:14:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2017, 07:34:54 PM
I'm liking this Ferrymen album. I think Magnus has actually stepped it up a little with this one and there's some really good songs. He's put in an effort here. Ronnie's voice is awesome too. Worthy of a purchase I think.

Oh, it was definitely purchase worthy. But I give the June 2nd nod to Jorn.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 05, 2017, 05:10:07 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2017, 07:34:54 PM
I'm liking this Ferrymen album. I think Magnus has actually stepped it up a little with this one and there's some really good songs. He's put in an effort here. Ronnie's voice is awesome too. Worthy of a purchase I think.

Yeah, I liked it. It may have helped that I went in not expecting too much following the songs that were released ahead of it. I like those songs now but they didn't jump out at me beforehand.

I'm really liking the Iced Earth. Some entertaining solos on it too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2017, 05:20:12 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 04, 2017, 09:14:50 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2017, 07:34:54 PM
I'm liking this Ferrymen album. I think Magnus has actually stepped it up a little with this one and there's some really good songs. He's put in an effort here. Ronnie's voice is awesome too. Worthy of a purchase I think.

Oh, it was definitely purchase worthy. But I give the June 2nd nod to Jorn.

Not liking the Jorn at all really which is weird for me.

Alex's crap guitar playing kills it for me. And the bland songwriting.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 06, 2017, 08:12:41 AM: Where the heck has Brent been?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2017, 11:51:13 AM: I was seriously just about to come in and post a *misses Brent*.

He and I exchanged an email last week. He's been busier than a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest with some personal stuff - nothing bad per se, just stuff that requires attention and focus. Hell, he said he hasn't even had time to listen to much music lately. :omg:

I think I'd :marriageanalogy: !!! :lol

Pretty sure he's lurking a bit, but I'll leave it at that - any more is his story, not mine.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 06, 2017, 12:48:38 PM: Yeah, it's been quiet around these parts without him.
I thought he was off preparing the Brent and Ben Ultimate History of Hard Rock and Metal, featuring every band ever... ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 06, 2017, 03:18:30 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 06, 2017, 12:48:38 PM
Yeah, it's been quiet around these parts without him.
I thought he was off preparing the Brent and Ben Ultimate History of Hard Rock and Metal, featuring every band ever... ;D

If it's every band that Brent knows, then the Brent and Ben Ultimate History of Hard Rock and Metal show will be ready in 2025.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2017, 04:47:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 06, 2017, 03:18:30 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 06, 2017, 12:48:38 PM
Yeah, it's been quiet around these parts without him.
I thought he was off preparing the Brent and Ben Ultimate History of Hard Rock and Metal, featuring every band ever... ;D

If it's every band that Brent knows, then the Brent and Ben Ultimate History of Hard Rock and Metal show will be ready in 2025.

And we'd all be listening to it until 2030!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 06, 2017, 04:53:21 PM: In all seriousness, we are more than spoiled having Brent all to ourselves.

The guy could host a major league internet show and blow everyone else's shows away.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2017, 08:23:49 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 06, 2017, 11:51:13 AM
I was seriously just about to come in and post a *misses Brent*.

He and I exchanged an email last week. He's been busier than a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest with some personal stuff - nothing bad per se, just stuff that requires attention and focus. Hell, he said he hasn't even had time to listen to much music lately. :omg:

I think I'd :marriageanalogy: !!! :lol

Pretty sure he's lurking a bit, but I'll leave it at that - any more is his story, not mine.

Yeah, um, DTF?!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 07, 2017, 02:26:47 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 06, 2017, 11:51:13 AM
I was seriously just about to come in and post a *misses Brent*.

He and I exchanged an email last week. He's been busier than a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest with some personal stuff - nothing bad per se, just stuff that requires attention and focus. Hell, he said he hasn't even had time to listen to much music lately. :omg:

I think I'd :marriageanalogy: !!! :lol

Pretty sure he's lurking a bit, but I'll leave it at that - any more is his story, not mine.

I was wondering too, but good to hear that it's nothing serious.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 10, 2017, 02:41:51 AM: So I've had a listen to some of the newer releases- someone's got to take up the slack in Brent's absence :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Mr Big - it's a decent album handicapped by shit production. Unlike the last couple I do fee like playing it again

Heaven'sFire - Playing With Fire - really enjoyed it. Straight ahead metal album, nice and varied, good singer. Worth a look. Purchase worthy

Don Barnes - unreleased album from the 38 Special singer/guitarist . Old school AOR, well played, well sung and a damn sight better than the Frontiers stuff coming out today.

Anthriel- Under Burning Skies - excellent prog metal, with actual songs. Singer sounds like Graham Bonnet.

Great White - Full Circle - I wash fav A White back in the day but the last few since Old Rose Motel haven't done anything for me. I like this one.

Next up, Riverdogs, Ten,
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Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2017, 05:32:13 AM: Man, none of those I would really bother checking out at all. The Heaven's Fire could be alright though. Interested in the Ten too but not expecting much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 10, 2017, 05:41:33 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 10, 2017, 02:41:51 AM
So I've had a listen to some of the newer releases- someone's got to take up the slack in Brent's absence :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Quote from: wolfking on July 10, 2017, 05:32:13 AM
Man, none of those I would really bother checking out at all.

:lol

Mission accomplished, Paul!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 10, 2017, 05:44:51 AM: I found Anthriel's (titled Transcendence) pretty good, despite being a step back from the debut.

Was never much of a fan of Great White other than a few tracks. Same for .38 Special. Might check out Don Barnes though based on Paul's assessment.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 10, 2017, 06:06:19 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2017, 05:41:33 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 10, 2017, 02:41:51 AM
So I've had a listen to some of the newer releases- someone's got to take up the slack in Brent's absence :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Quote from: wolfking on July 10, 2017, 05:32:13 AM
Man, none of those I would really bother checking out at all.

:lol

Mission accomplished, Paul!

:) :biggrin:
The things I do for you guys!

Quote from: jingle.boy on July 10, 2017, 05:44:51 AM
I found Anthriel's (titled Transcendence) pretty good, despite being a step back from the debut.

Was never much of a fan of Great White other than a few tracks. Same for .38 Special. Might check out Don Barnes though based on Paul's assessment.

The Great White won't be of interest to anyone who doesn't like Great White - it's a straight up bluesy rock album. I'd rate the songs higher than the Inglorious album personally.

Oh, and it helps that I'm off work sick at the moment - plenty of free time. New guitar is due to be delivered anytime now. Excited :biggrin: :omg:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2017, 06:14:42 AM: :lol

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as an ass, appreciate the writeups Paul. The Mr. Big from the songs I've heard I'm sureprised that the Mr Big is slightly positive, might be worth a listen. Really interested in your thoughts on the Ten mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 10, 2017, 07:47:59 AM: Certainly no offence taken mate :lol

New Ibanez arrived so the Ten will have to wait :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2017, 03:49:15 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 10, 2017, 07:47:59 AM
Certainly no offence taken mate :lol

New Ibanez arrived so the Ten will have to wait :biggrin:

What model?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 11, 2017, 05:26:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 10, 2017, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 10, 2017, 07:47:59 AM
Certainly no offence taken mate :lol

New Ibanez arrived so the Ten will have to wait :biggrin:

What model?

Only an RG unfortunately :biggrin:
She's a beauty though.

(https://www.ibanez.com/products/images/eg2017/back/RG370AHM_BMT_1P_01_CU_Body_Top.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2017, 06:01:24 AM: Don't be like that. Got a couple of RG's myself, my all round fav type of guitar. I fucking love that finish!!
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Post by: Lowdz on July 11, 2017, 09:35:03 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 11, 2017, 06:01:24 AM
Don't be like that. Got a couple of RG's myself, my all round fav type of guitar. I fucking love that finish!!

First impressions are positive. The pickups are a bit harsher than the Evos on my Jem, and it's a while since I've played a maple fret board. Still, it's good to be able to use the whammy again. The whammy on my Jem is blocked off because the wood under it has split.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2017, 09:36:57 AM: Ordered my Michael Schenker tickets!!! 7 rows back on the aisle on Michael's side. Considering it's not until March, got a little WTF from The Lovely Mrs TAC.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 11, 2017, 09:40:55 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 11, 2017, 09:36:57 AM
Ordered my Michael Schenker tickets!!! 7 rows back on the aisle on Michael's side. Considering it's not until March, got a little WTF from The Lovely Mrs TAC.

Nice. Saw him 4 years or so ago with the Lovedrive set and it was awesome.
UFO are on in Manchester very soon but I'm not well enough to go :-\
I'm just not destined to ever see Vinnie Moore live :facepalm:
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Post by: TAC on July 11, 2017, 09:46:54 AM: We are seeing UFO in September...with Saxon!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 11, 2017, 10:02:34 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 11, 2017, 09:46:54 AM
We are seeing UFO in September...with Saxon!!

That will be awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 11, 2017, 11:53:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 11, 2017, 09:46:54 AM
We are seeing UFO in September...with Saxon!!

What a double bill!!
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Post by: Samsara on July 11, 2017, 01:03:11 PM: Gettin to see Last in Line pretty soon. Looking forward to it. I dig the Heavy Crown record, and obviously, early DIO. Should be fun!
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Post by: TAC on July 11, 2017, 04:25:18 PM: Fiddling around with the UFO Discography framework and I'm listening to Sweet Little Thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiTc9u2N5bc

which the opening riff sounds remarkably familiar to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RsoCr6k28
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Post by: Lowdz on July 13, 2017, 03:53:50 PM: Ok, I can confirm that the new Ten album sounds like a Ten album 😀. A bit like reviewing a Axel Rudi Pell album 😀

Currently listening to the Oden Ogan and that's better, though that sounds like an Oden Ogan album 😀 - they have sound and are sticking to it. Some good solos on it for Kade, and some decent power metal riffing.

Edguy special edition should arrive tomorrow hopefully.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2017, 05:05:01 PM: I'll give the Ten a listen then Paul, since the last couple were decent, mainly Albion.

Since you sent me OO in my roulette I have checked out that one particular album To The End and it's really good indeed. I've had a listen to a bit of teh last one too but this new one sounds great also. Their guitar work indeed is impressive.

I'm not that fussed with the Edguy, but the DVD I think is worth it alone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 13, 2017, 05:23:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 13, 2017, 05:05:01 PM
I'll give the Ten a listen then Paul, since the last couple were decent, mainly Albion.

Since you sent me OO in my roulette I have checked out that one particular album To The End and it's really good indeed. I've had a listen to a bit of teh last one too but this new one sounds great also. Their guitar work indeed is impressive.

I'm not that fussed with the Edguy, but the DVD I think is worth it alone.

I only really went for it for the DVD. I got the last Rhapsody album box set thinking that had a DVD of a live show - it doesn't, just audio....
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2017, 05:29:40 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 13, 2017, 05:23:46 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 13, 2017, 05:05:01 PM
I'll give the Ten a listen then Paul, since the last couple were decent, mainly Albion.

Since you sent me OO in my roulette I have checked out that one particular album To The End and it's really good indeed. I've had a listen to a bit of teh last one too but this new one sounds great also. Their guitar work indeed is impressive.

I'm not that fussed with the Edguy, but the DVD I think is worth it alone.

I only really went for it for the DVD. I got the last Rhapsody album box set thinking that had a DVD of a live show - it doesn't, just audio....

Ugh, how annoying.

Yeah, watched a clip on youtube from it, looks legit. I'm wondering if it's the same show that has I think 4 or 5 songs from the Superheroes DVD, I think it might be.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 13, 2017, 07:38:29 PM: Luckily, I need a reason to get 'into' Edguy. I only have Space Police and Rocket Ride, so this package is something that appeals to me.

Unluckily, I'm unemployed and really should be watching where I spend my money.

phsaw.
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Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 06:16:10 AM: Interesting read.

https://bravewords.com/news/quiet-riot-drummer-frankie-banali-claims-he-created-opening-drum-pattern-in-ozzy-osbourne-s-over-the-mountain
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Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 06:39:31 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 13, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
Luckily, I need a reason to get 'into' Edguy. I only have Space Police and Rocket Ride, so this package is something that appeals to me.

Unluckily, I'm unemployed and really should be watching where I spend my money.

phsaw.

The tracklist is actually really shit and not a good representation of their best IMO. Get Mandrake and Hellfire Club, then Savage Poetry and Theater of Salvation.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on July 14, 2017, 06:40:42 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 14, 2017, 06:16:10 AM
Interesting read.

https://bravewords.com/news/quiet-riot-drummer-frankie-banali-claims-he-created-opening-drum-pattern-in-ozzy-osbourne-s-over-the-mountain
The guy's a good drummer (I really like what he did with W.A.S.P.). But, the more I hear and see of this guy, the more he really comes off like a tool. At this point, he's really just pissing on Kevin DuBrow's grave with what he's doing with Quiet Riot. Apparently, he's not good enough to have latched on somewhere else in the 10 years since DuBrow died. He has to continue this revolving door of singers. It's not quite as bad as Bobby Blotzer's Ratt. But, it's not too far off.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 06:52:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 06:39:31 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 13, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
Luckily, I need a reason to get 'into' Edguy. I only have Space Police and Rocket Ride, so this package is something that appeals to me.

Unluckily, I'm unemployed and really should be watching where I spend my money.

phsaw.

The tracklist is actually really shit and not a good representation of their best IMO. Get Mandrake and Hellfire Club, then Savage Poetry and Theater of Salvation.

Usually if I'm getting into a band, I will go for a live album. Burning Down The Opera is pretty good. It came between Mandrake and Hellfire Club.

I prefer THE Savage Poetry, which is an upgrade over Savage Poetry.
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Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 06:55:09 AM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on July 14, 2017, 06:40:42 AM
At this point, he's really just pissing on Kevin DuBrow's grave with what he's doing with Quiet Riot. Apparently, he's not good enough to have latched on somewhere else in the 10 years since DuBrow died. He has to continue this revolving door of singers.

Apparently he's got a dude from f'n American Idol now on the new album. ONLY because I was glued to my couch for a few days, I checked the two tracks that Bravewords posted. Holy shit what suckage!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 07:08:45 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 14, 2017, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 06:39:31 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 13, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
Luckily, I need a reason to get 'into' Edguy. I only have Space Police and Rocket Ride, so this package is something that appeals to me.

Unluckily, I'm unemployed and really should be watching where I spend my money.

phsaw.

The tracklist is actually really shit and not a good representation of their best IMO. Get Mandrake and Hellfire Club, then Savage Poetry and Theater of Salvation.

Usually if I'm getting into a band, I will go for a live album. Burning Down The Opera is pretty good. It came between Mandrake and Hellfire Club.

I prefer THE Savage Poetry, which is an upgrade over Savage Poetry.

Good call, that live album is excellent. Yeah, of course I meant the re-recorded Savage Poetry. The original is bloody hilarious!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on July 14, 2017, 07:47:52 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 14, 2017, 06:55:09 AM
Quote from: cfmoran13 on July 14, 2017, 06:40:42 AM
At this point, he's really just pissing on Kevin DuBrow's grave with what he's doing with Quiet Riot. Apparently, he's not good enough to have latched on somewhere else in the 10 years since DuBrow died. He has to continue this revolving door of singers.

Apparently he's got a dude from f'n American Idol now on the new album. ONLY because I was glued to my couch for a few days, I checked the two tracks that Bravewords posted. Holy shit what suckage!
Yeah, he replaced this guy Seann Nichols who was there for 10 seconds, but long enough to record an entire album. Then, QR and Nichols split and Banali shit all over him in the press. Now, both sides are re-recording the material their own way. Nichols' versions of the two songs I've heard sound better than (but still not great) QR's versions. Ironically, Nichols is now the singer in BB's Ratt. And, regardless of who's version you're listening to, the new material just isn't QR.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 08:00:07 AM: Thank God I stopped listening to Quiet Riot and Ratt in 1985. They sucked then and I can't imagine WTF they must sound like now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on July 14, 2017, 08:30:43 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 14, 2017, 08:00:07 AM
Thank God I stopped listening to Quiet Riot and Ratt in 1985. They sucked then and I can't imagine WTF they must sound like now.
As far as Ratt goes, the other guys are back together (with Carlos Cavazo in place of Robin Crosby) and touring. Apparently, they won the name in court, which is why BB's Ratt hasn't been seen or heard from in months.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 08:45:06 AM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on July 14, 2017, 08:30:43 AM
Quote from: TAC on July 14, 2017, 08:00:07 AM
Thank God I stopped listening to Quiet Riot and Ratt in 1985. They sucked then and I can't imagine WTF they must sound like now.
As far as Ratt goes, the other guys are back together (with Carlos Cavazo in place of Robin Crosby) and touring. Apparently, they won the name in court, which is why BB's Ratt hasn't been seen or heard from in months.

RATT were great back in the day, and I have a soft spot for the s/t from a few years ago. Pearcy has a shit voice but it's ok on their albums.

I was never into QR at all, couldn't see what the fuss was about. You should never be allowed to get famous on the back of a cover version until you've had hits of your own. They should make a rule 😀
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Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 08:48:39 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 08:45:06 AM

RATT were great back in the day, and I have a soft spot for the s/t from a few years ago. Pearcy has a shit voice but it's ok on their albums.

I was on them from the beginning. Their singer truly held them back. After the first album, I literally couldn't listen to him/them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 08:56:02 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 14, 2017, 08:48:39 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 08:45:06 AM

RATT were great back in the day, and I have a soft spot for the s/t from a few years ago. Pearcy has a shit voice but it's ok on their albums.

I was on them from the beginning. Their singer truly held them back. After the first album, I literally couldn't listen to him/them.

They certainly succeeded in spite of him, rather than because of him. I saw him live at Monsters of a Rock in 84 and he was pitiful. Saw them a few more times and he wasn't any better.
I loved their guitar tones though. And Di Martini was great. He was, however, surprisingly shit in Whitesnake when I thought he would have been perfect.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 08:59:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 07:08:45 AM
Quote from: TAC on July 14, 2017, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 06:39:31 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 13, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
Luckily, I need a reason to get 'into' Edguy. I only have Space Police and Rocket Ride, so this package is something that appeals to me.

Unluckily, I'm unemployed and really should be watching where I spend my money.

phsaw.

The tracklist is actually really shit and not a good representation of their best IMO. Get Mandrake and Hellfire Club, then Savage Poetry and Theater of Salvation.

Usually if I'm getting into a band, I will go for a live album. Burning Down The Opera is pretty good. It came between Mandrake and Hellfire Club.

I prefer THE Savage Poetry, which is an upgrade over Savage Poetry.

Good call, that live album is excellent. Yeah, of course I meant the re-recorded Savage Poetry. The original is bloody hilarious!!

I was very disappointed with the track list. Too many rom the latest album, nearly all of the Superheroes ep (though I do like those tracks). It has arrived but not played the DVD yet. Cricket has been on 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 14, 2017, 09:01:00 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 08:59:02 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 07:08:45 AM
Good call, that live album is excellent. Yeah, of course I meant the re-recorded Savage Poetry. The original is bloody hilarious!!

I was very disappointed with the track list. Too many rom the latest album, nearly all of the Superheroes ep (though I do like those tracks). It has arrived but not played the DVD yet. Cricket has been on 😀

Alright you fuckers... then give me what should be the double-CD "best of" Edguy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 09:03:49 AM: Burning Down The Opera.

Honestly, I haven't cared for much that came after. I totally skipped Space Police which I'm told was pretty good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 09:06:28 AM: The first disc and a half of the Hall of Flames compo and the Rocket Ride and Hellfire Club albums would be a start.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 01:17:28 PM: https://youtu.be/NlEcM53kj_I

New Alice. Only heard the first 20 seconds but I like it so far 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 01:24:49 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 01:17:28 PM
https://youtu.be/NlEcM53kj_I

New Alice. Only heard the first 20 seconds but I like it so far 😀

Not sure why, but when I saw that a track was released today, I thought it was the same song he released a while back.

I like this too. Based on the first two tracks, this album is already a big improvement over the last few.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 14, 2017, 01:25:10 PM: I'm not feeling these new Alice Cooper tracks at all
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 04:50:12 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 14, 2017, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 08:59:02 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 07:08:45 AM
Good call, that live album is excellent. Yeah, of course I meant the re-recorded Savage Poetry. The original is bloody hilarious!!

I was very disappointed with the track list. Too many rom the latest album, nearly all of the Superheroes ep (though I do like those tracks). It has arrived but not played the DVD yet. Cricket has been on 😀

Alright you fuckers... then give me what should be the double-CD "best of" Edguy.

Challenge accepted fucker! I have a couple of hours doing nothing right now so I'll be back in an hour.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 04:52:18 PM: Another pointless song from this new Masterplan release;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXl7zC4XtFk
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 06:15:48 PM: Alright, here's a best of 2cd Edguy compilation. Put some of the hits in there but it's pretty self indulgent but whatever;

Edguy - The Savage Tears of the Eyes of a Tyrant - Best of

CD1;

1. Mysteria
2. The Piper Never Dies
3. Golden Dawn
4. Key to my Fate
5. The Headless Game
6. King of Fools
7. Wasted Time
8. Land of the Miracle
9. Ministry of Saints
10. Out of Control
11. Eyes of the Tyrant
12. 9-2-9
13. Space Police

Running Time - 78 minutes

CD2;

1. Sabre & Torch
2. Babylon
3. Superheroes
4. Hallowed
5. Nailed to the Wheel
6. The Pharaoh
7. Walk on Fighting
8. Misguiding Your Life
9. The Unbeliever
10. Holy Water
11. The Savage Union
12. Down to the Devil
13. Under the Moon
14. Tears of A Mandrake

Running time - 78 minutes

That'll do.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 15, 2017, 06:44:53 AM: Fantastic. Created my Spotify playlist, and will be spinning later today/tomorrow.

I find this to be an excellent way of discovering a band - rather than try to work through a the discog of a band that was (as I like to say) off my radar - especially when its 5+ albums to try and sift through. Brent helped me out with Tad Morose and Talisman a while back.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2017, 05:31:08 AM: Cool stuff Chad.

I'd like to know what you other Edguyheads think of my compilation.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 16, 2017, 09:26:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2017, 05:31:08 AM
Cool stuff Chad.

I'd like to know what you other Edguyheads think of my compilation.

Not much wrong with that at first glance.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 16, 2017, 10:29:47 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 16, 2017, 09:26:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2017, 05:31:08 AM
Cool stuff Chad.

I'd like to know what you other Edguyheads think of my compilation.

Not much wrong with that at first ~~glance~~ listen.

fix'd.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2017, 02:56:54 PM: Haha..WTF?

https://bravewords.com/news/vince-neil-plays-abbreviated-headline-set-at-bang-your-head-festival-2017-promoter-issues-onstage-apology-for-booking-him
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 16, 2017, 03:41:29 PM: Played the new Edguy songs on the new album, enjoyed them. Still not watched the DVD but I don't think the cricket will last all day tomorrow so may get a chance then 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2017, 06:43:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 16, 2017, 02:56:54 PM
Haha..WTF?

https://bravewords.com/news/vince-neil-plays-abbreviated-headline-set-at-bang-your-head-festival-2017-promoter-issues-onstage-apology-for-booking-him

Piss off Vince you fat fuck. Funny they actually apologised for booking. Damage already done bro lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2017, 06:44:49 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 16, 2017, 03:41:29 PM
Played the new Edguy songs on the new album, enjoyed them. Still not watched the DVD but I don't think the cricket will last all day tomorrow so may get a chance then 😀

Looks like this release got pushed back a week down here.

Quote from: jingle.boy on July 16, 2017, 10:29:47 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 16, 2017, 09:26:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2017, 05:31:08 AM
Cool stuff Chad.

I'd like to know what you other Edguyheads think of my compilation.

Not much wrong with that at first ~~glance~~ listen.

fix'd.

Glad you are enjoying them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 16, 2017, 07:36:05 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2017, 06:43:48 PM

Piss off Vince you fat fuck.

I find this quite offensive - "full figured fuck" would be more sensitive Kade.

I have missed you guys :lol

Doesn't seem that I have missed any major DTF happenings in recent weeks - should be up to date by mid week in terms of anything in this thread , PMs etc...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2017, 07:46:59 PM: Slim challenged fuck!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 16, 2017, 08:51:00 PM: Speaking of slim challenged , but with more class than Vince has in his little finger...........

Steve Grimmett out there and rockin it barely six months after losing a leg and almost dying - and sounding pretty good doing it :hefdaddy

https://youtu.be/ZzIV1_r7LBk
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2017, 08:53:41 PM: Yeah, I saw that. You can't say that he's not a trooper.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 16, 2017, 09:31:29 PM: Finally the Brent has come back to the Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabillia Thread!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on July 16, 2017, 10:40:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 16, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
Doesn't seem that I have missed any major DTF happenings in recent weeks

word of caution, stay away from the MP Shattered Fortress thread
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2017, 05:04:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 16, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2017, 06:43:48 PM

Piss off Vince you fat fuck.

I find this quite offensive - "full figured fuck" would be more sensitive Kade.

I have missed you guys :lol

Doesn't seem that I have missed any major DTF happenings in recent weeks - should be up to date by mid week in terms of anything in this thread , PMs etc...

That's cause you haven't been here. ;D

I haven't step foot in that MP thread, what's the go?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2017, 06:16:43 AM: It's a bunch of fucking nonsense.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 17, 2017, 07:08:11 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 16, 2017, 09:31:29 PM
Finally the Brent has come back to the Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabillia Thread!

Crowd erupts.

:djhef:

Quote from: wolfking on July 17, 2017, 05:04:37 AM
I haven't step foot in that MP thread, what's the go?

Ditto. Good rule of thumb is that DTF can turn anything MP-related into a cluster fuck.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on July 17, 2017, 07:22:18 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 16, 2017, 02:56:54 PM
Haha..WTF?

https://bravewords.com/news/vince-neil-plays-abbreviated-headline-set-at-bang-your-head-festival-2017-promoter-issues-onstage-apology-for-booking-him

This is nothing new for Vince, but it's hilarious that the promoter apologized for booking him in the first place. I saw him in a small suburban club in 2007 or 2008, and it was the same thing. He played about 10 songs (the usual Motley hits), including a covers medley where he left the stage for about 10 minutes and Jeff Blando sang a medley of War Pigs/Heaven & Hell and a Zeppelin song. Blando, Dana Strum and Zoltan (the drummer) are the only redeeming things about his band - those guys kick ass.

Vince talks about loving to tour and play shows, but the fact that he only plays a 60 minute headlining show is awful. My wife and I went for the sheer novelty of seeing Vince in a small 600 person capacity club, but hated having to deal with the groupies that tried to push their way up front after we had stood in our spots for nearly 2 hours straight watching the opening bands. I won't ever go see him again - once was enough.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2017, 04:22:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 17, 2017, 06:16:43 AM
It's a bunch of fucking nonsense.

Want to know more, but really couldn't be assed or have the time to go and check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on July 17, 2017, 09:33:18 PM: MP tweets or facebooks something he probably shouldn't have (surprise!)
people get upset and feel the need to complain
other people defend MP
rinse, repeat ad infinitum
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2017, 10:01:23 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on July 17, 2017, 09:33:18 PM
MP tweets or facebooks something he probably shouldn't have (surprise!)
people get upset and feel the need to complain
other people defend MP
rinse, repeat ad infinitum

So nothing new then it seems.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on July 17, 2017, 10:06:03 PM: back and forth. Forever.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on July 18, 2017, 02:26:58 PM: A little OT, but a few Aussies frequent this thread.
JB have got 20% off CD's, vinyl, DVD and BR amongst others today, plus an extra 5% if your on their newsletter email.
Today only!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2017, 09:19:59 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 18, 2017, 02:26:58 PM
A little OT, but a few Aussies frequent this thread.
JB have got 20% off CD's, vinyl, DVD and BR amongst others today, plus an extra 5% if your on their newsletter email.
Today only!

Good old JB. They do the discounted cd's very often, it seems every second weekend they have 20% off DVD's too lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 19, 2017, 02:23:53 AM: Earlier this year in Canada, all the HMV stores had closed down, so I thought that was officially it for music/movie stores. Best Buy and Walmart only have a very limited section so I figured it was amazon only from this point on. But in the last month a new store, called Sunrise Records, opened in select old HMV locations. It's pretty similar to HMV but they also carry quite a bit of vinyl.

Will they last? Hard to say, but it's nice to still have some type of music store around.

Big difference from 10-15 years ago when there were music stores every where. But everyone in this thread is old school like myself and likely just enjoyed the aspect of going into a music store and not nessasarily buying something, but just looking around and browsing. I have the same feelings with old video stores. I always enjoyed just going into a video store and look around; that's where I would learn about a lot of the new releases and find lots of older gems as well.

But thats old school mentality lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 19, 2017, 03:49:14 AM: https://youtu.be/025It5p5vPw

New Steelheart track. Not bad actually. And not another cookie cutter Frontiers project recorded in Del Vecchio 's studio and sent to whatever vocalist they are using this time. looking forward to hearing more.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2017, 04:42:14 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 19, 2017, 02:23:53 AM
Earlier this year in Canada, all the HMV stores had closed down, so I thought that was officially it for music/movie stores. Best Buy and Walmart only have a very limited section so I figured it was amazon only from this point on. But in the last month a new store, called Sunrise Records, opened in select old HMV locations. It's pretty similar to HMV but they also carry quite a bit of vinyl.

Sunrise was THE chain (here in Ontario at least) long before HMV sprouted roots in Canada. I lined up many-a-times at a Sunrise location for concert tickets back in the 'wrist-band policy' days.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2017, 05:33:21 AM: We had HMV in Australia but they all went years ago. They actually weren't too bad some of them here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 19, 2017, 05:47:41 AM: We have this big record store here in Cologne (part of a large electronic store chain) that for a long time prided itself with having the largest record collection in europe. Don't know if this is/was true but it was big. I spent hours and hours browsing the vinyl and later cd bins. Countless times I discovered that some of my favorite bands had released a new record by seeing it in the new releases bin and a lot of discoveries were made by browsing through their record collection. This was before the internet apparently. Ahh, those were the days. :D

They still are big but not like they used to be and I'm not there that often anymore, but when I find the time I still like to just look through the cd bins.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 20, 2017, 04:14:16 PM: I was just listening to Killing Machine/Hell Bent for Leather by Judas Priest. I think this album is their most underrated in the entire discography and my favorite from their 70s material.

The title tracks along with Burnin Up and Running Wild are such major kick ass tunes. Green Manalishi is one of the best songs I've ever heard and I think Before the Dawn is an outstanding ballad.

Speaking of the Green Manalishi, I don't think I've ever heard the original song from Fleetwood Mac.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2017, 05:16:21 PM: Our local HMV closed about five years ago but it's reopening tomorrow. Will have a wander in to have a look.

I remember a few years ago I got a call from them saying a cd I'd ordered had arrived. I said there was a mistake, I hadn't ordered anything. When I got there it was the Steeler album that I'd ordered about five years earlier 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2017, 06:36:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 20, 2017, 04:14:16 PM
Speaking of the Green Manalishi, I don't think I've ever heard the original song from Fleetwood Mac.

Priest certainly did a great job of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTvKaLW5bu8
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 20, 2017, 06:43:35 PM: Original is pretty cool
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2017, 06:47:01 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 20, 2017, 06:43:35 PM
Original is pretty cool

So many drugs were smoked before recording that.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 21, 2017, 04:11:39 PM: NewLynch Mob. I'd quite like it if that fucking awful vocal effect wasn't there - I hate it, every time I hear it grrrrr

Oh and Lynch rips on the solo. Bet I've heard from him in a long time

https://www.hairbandheaven.rocks/single-post/2017/07/21/LYNCH-MOB-Releases-Video-For-New-Song-Main-Offender
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2017, 04:31:00 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 21, 2017, 04:11:39 PM
NewLynch Mob. I'd quite like it if that fucking awful vocal effect wasn't there - I hate it, every time I hear it grrrrr

Oh and Lynch rips on the solo. Bet I've heard from him in a long time

https://www.hairbandheaven.rocks/single-post/2017/07/21/LYNCH-MOB-Releases-Video-For-New-Song-Main-Offender

Not bad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2017, 04:39:24 PM: New Accept song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq9XIkVX5bE

Nothing flash this one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 21, 2017, 05:02:16 PM: Got the new Unisonic live album today!! (will check it out tonight)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2017, 05:43:52 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 21, 2017, 04:39:24 PM
New Accept song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq9XIkVX5bE

Nothing flash this one.

That's two pretty rubbish songs I've heard now - not looking promising.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 21, 2017, 07:31:31 PM: Watching the Unisonic DVD. Holy hell :hefdaddy

First off..why can't the entire fucking show be on the DVD?? WHY?

Kiske sounds amazing. Maybe a little too amazing?
So great to see him and Kai on stage together. Kai and Mandy Meyer are fantastic together. This is a great band!

Oh, and Dennis Ward looks like the chaperone. :lol

Nor was I aware that lonestar was their new drummer! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 21, 2017, 08:50:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 21, 2017, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 21, 2017, 04:39:24 PM
New Accept song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq9XIkVX5bE

Nothing flash this one.

That's two pretty rubbish songs I've heard now - not looking promising.

Musically it's classic Accept, so that's the good news.

But....Don't drink the Koolaid? :facepalm: WTF?? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 22, 2017, 04:59:37 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 21, 2017, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 21, 2017, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 21, 2017, 04:39:24 PM
New Accept song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq9XIkVX5bE

Nothing flash this one.

That's two pretty rubbish songs I've heard now - not looking promising.

Musically it's classic Accept, so that's the good news.

But....Don't drink the Koolaid? :facepalm: WTF?? :lol

ManOwaR went there first.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2017, 04:01:13 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 21, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
Watching the Unisonic DVD. Holy hell :hefdaddy

First off..why can't the entire fucking show be on the DVD?? WHY?

Kiske sounds amazing. Maybe a little too amazing?
So great to see him and Kai on stage together. Kai and Mandy Meyer are fantastic together. This is a great band!

Oh, and Dennis Ward looks like the chaperone. :lol

Nor was I aware that lonestar was their new drummer! ;D

This is what put me off, WTF is with that?! Seriously?!
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Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2017, 04:06:51 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 21, 2017, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 21, 2017, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 21, 2017, 04:39:24 PM
New Accept song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq9XIkVX5bE

Nothing flash this one.

That's two pretty rubbish songs I've heard now - not looking promising.

Musically it's classic Accept, so that's the good news.

But....Don't drink the Koolaid? :facepalm: WTF?? :lol

I get the history and story behind it and all that, just jeez, it just sounds so stupid and cheesy.
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Post by: TAC on July 23, 2017, 08:03:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 23, 2017, 04:01:13 AM
Quote from: TAC on July 21, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
Watching the Unisonic DVD. Holy hell :hefdaddy

First off..why can't the entire fucking show be on the DVD?? WHY?

This is what put me off, WTF is with that?! Seriously?!

Right. I mean they have the footage, just burn the whole show.

And speaking of the footage, it is really excellent. I find that DVD footage/editing, etc... is often a mixed bag, but I can't complain here. They do a great job of catching the interaction between the band. And the guitars are mixed so clean.

The only thing in Wacken is how far the band actually is from the crowd. That seems weird. Of course not as far as Hammerfall on the Gates Of Valhalla DVD, where the crowd was literally across a lake! :lol :facepalm:
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Post by: Grappler on July 25, 2017, 09:06:33 AM: Neat clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhrHCzc1wlQ

Joe Elliot and Phil Collen of Def Leppard show up to verify one of Phil's old guitars on Pawn Stars.
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Post by: TAC on July 25, 2017, 09:00:04 PM: Gary Moore :hefdaddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY1k4cT_zV4
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Post by: Lowdz on July 26, 2017, 02:16:42 AM: Brilliant. Although I loved the first couple of blues albums, he went on too long releasing more forgettable stuff instead of returning to what he does best: rocking out.

He was probably the biggest influence on my playing, certainly my first major influence after Ace Frehley . Ace made me want to play - I wanted to play like Gary. Even when the shredders came along they weren't as big an influence as I knew I would never be able to do what they did. Although Gary's playing was also well out of my league it sounded attainable.

And I got some of the great man's sweat on me at the front at Manchester Apollo. It didn't improve my guitar playing though...
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Post by: Kwyjibo on July 26, 2017, 02:35:56 AM: Gary Moore is a phenomenal player. :hefdaddy I wasn't keen on all of his stuff but his 80s hard rock records and the first blues album are stellar. Sadly never saw him live.
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Post by: gazinwales on July 26, 2017, 03:23:11 AM: GM was and still is a massive influence on my guitar playing.
I was totally into shredders when I first started playing, then I heard Gary and he changed my perspective as to what a good guitar player should be like.

Thanks for posting the video too, never seen it before.
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Post by: TAC on July 26, 2017, 03:31:44 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 26, 2017, 03:23:11 AM
Thanks for posting the video too, never seen it before.
You're welcome. Neither had I. It popped up on my youtube feed. It's amazing footage.

I saw Gary Moore twice. Once in 1983. He was actually the first band I ever saw live as he was third on the bill of my first concert.
Also saw him in 1987.

8-29-87
The Living Room
Providence, RI

(https://i.imgur.com/dehiFUU.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on July 26, 2017, 06:37:20 PM: This quote from Yngwie deserves to be featured :rollin

On whether he has considered working with singers like Jeff Scott Soto, Joe Lynn Turner and Tim "Ripper" Owens again on an album or a tour:

Yngwie: "Actually, no, I have not, because I found myself very much… I'm very comfortable singing myself, first of all. Secondly, there's a certain disconnect when you write the song and you have someone else sing it for you. And it's kind of like a fakeness about it. I always wrote everything — I wrote all the lyrics, I wrote all the melodies, everything; it's just somebody else sung it. And to me, the singer is nothing else than a different… like a bass player or a keyboard player — they're not more important than any other musician. And they, unfortunately, seem to think that they are. And I've kind of had it with their sort of… self-absorbed sort of way, and I'm very much against it. No. I don't like that. I don't like any of those people, and I don't like to do anything with them ever again."

I am sure the feeling is mutual.

And speaking of Owens I hope this Spirits of Fire thing lives up to the names on the box.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 26, 2017, 06:52:27 PM: Finally Dio is coming to Australia - hologram style ::) Hopefully they won't mind me sending them a photo of some money as payment.
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Post by: TAC on July 26, 2017, 06:56:31 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 26, 2017, 06:52:27 PM
Finally Dio is coming to Australia - hologram style ::) Hopefully they won't mind me sending them a photo of some money as payment.

:lol :lol :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2017, 07:15:52 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 26, 2017, 06:52:27 PM
Finally Dio is coming to Australia - hologram style ::) Hopefully they won't mind me sending them a photo of some money as payment.

I really don't know what to make of that tour. Should I think it's strictly a cash grab or is it a cool way to see again and remember the metal master? Not sure, I guess I need to see some highlights and reviews.
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Post by: TAC on July 26, 2017, 07:20:22 PM: That's interesting Jason. I'm usually the first one to scream "Cash Grab!!".

I suppose it is in a way. I would also be interested to see prices.

How many beers would you have to drink, or how much weed would you have to smoke for this? The whole thing seems weird.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2017, 07:40:42 PM: That's a good way to put it.........weird
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 26, 2017, 08:47:48 PM: When I first saw the article headlines, I was stunned it didn't come from The Onion.

Quote from: bl5150 on July 26, 2017, 06:52:27 PM
Finally Dio is coming to Australia - hologram style ::) Hopefully they won't mind me sending them a photo of some money as payment.

:clap:

I'll send a picture of myself to the venue on the night of the show.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on July 27, 2017, 02:29:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 26, 2017, 06:37:20 PM
This quote from Yngwie deserves to be featured :rollin

On whether he has considered working with singers like Jeff Scott Soto, Joe Lynn Turner and Tim "Ripper" Owens again on an album or a tour:

Yngwie: "Actually, no, I have not, because I found myself very much… I'm very comfortable singing myself, first of all. Secondly, there's a certain disconnect when you write the song and you have someone else sing it for you. And it's kind of like a fakeness about it. I always wrote everything — I wrote all the lyrics, I wrote all the melodies, everything; it's just somebody else sung it. And to me, the singer is nothing else than a different… like a bass player or a keyboard player — they're not more important than any other musician. And they, unfortunately, seem to think that they are. And I've kind of had it with their sort of… self-absorbed sort of way, and I'm very much against it. No. I don't like that. I don't like any of those people, and I don't like to do anything with them ever again."

I am sure the feeling is mutual.

And speaking of Owens I hope this Spirits of Fire thing lives up to the names on the box.

This translates to "I don't need anybody else and therefore take sole credit for driving my career to the ground"

;D ;D ;D Yngwie's always good for a laugh these days ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on July 27, 2017, 03:05:21 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on July 27, 2017, 02:29:00 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 26, 2017, 06:37:20 PM
This quote from Yngwie deserves to be featured :rollin

On whether he has considered working with singers like Jeff Scott Soto, Joe Lynn Turner and Tim "Ripper" Owens again on an album or a tour:

Yngwie: "Actually, no, I have not, because I found myself very much… I'm very comfortable singing myself, first of all. Secondly, there's a certain disconnect when you write the song and you have someone else sing it for you. And it's kind of like a fakeness about it. I always wrote everything — I wrote all the lyrics, I wrote all the melodies, everything; it's just somebody else sung it. And to me, the singer is nothing else than a different… like a bass player or a keyboard player — they're not more important than any other musician. And they, unfortunately, seem to think that they are. And I've kind of had it with their sort of… self-absorbed sort of way, and I'm very much against it. No. I don't like that. I don't like any of those people, and I don't like to do anything with them ever again."

I am sure the feeling is mutual.

And speaking of Owens I hope this Spirits of Fire thing lives up to the names on the box.

This translates to "I don't need anybody else and therefore take sole credit for driving my career to the ground"

;D ;D ;D Yngwie's always good for a laugh these days ;D ;D ;D

Saw this yesterday. I thought he was trying to be less of a twat these days but the mask has slipped. He can't fucking sing. He can't write a decent song anymore. He needs a singer and a producer. That will never happen.
I was his biggest fan but I have no interested in anything he does these days. Last album of his worth a damn was Facing The Animal.

As to the DIO thing, no thanks. Saw the real thing several times. I have his live DVDs. Might as well stay home and watch those.
The clip of the trial run did not convince me that there's any point to this.
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Post by: wolfking on July 27, 2017, 06:20:33 AM: Damn, Ripper, JLT and Soto will be so disappointed that they can now stop sitting by the phone waiting for Yngwie's call. Seriously, he's going all Tate like delusional now. The shit he's been coming up with he should be begging one of these guys to collaborate with him and try and resurrect his career. Even Michael or Goram give them a call you dickhead.

As for the Dio thing, I think the whole thing is a fucking joke.
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Post by: TAC on July 27, 2017, 06:27:33 AM: I didn't pay attention to Yngwie for the longest time, but I really liked that first album he did with Owens, Perpetual Flame.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 27, 2017, 08:12:33 AM: I don't think I've listened to a lick of Yngvie's since Eclipse.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 27, 2017, 08:17:23 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 27, 2017, 06:20:33 AM
Damn, Ripper, JLT and Soto will be so disappointed that they can now stop sitting by the phone waiting for Yngwie's call. Seriously, he's going all Tate like delusional now. The shit he's been coming up with he should be begging one of these guys to collaborate with him and try and resurrect his career. Even Michael or Goram give them a call you dickhead.

As for the Dio thing, I think the whole thing is a fucking joke.

Edman and Vescera would be the biggest no nos of the lot. Edman sued Yngwie and won. Vescera shagged his then wife 🤔🎇I imagine the fucking fury would be released if he saw him again 😀

I remember JSS posting on Facebook a few years ago that he was open to the idea but Yngwies wife (and manager) wouldn't let his old associates anywhere near him.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 27, 2017, 08:18:01 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 27, 2017, 08:12:33 AM
I don't think I've listened to a lick of Yngvie's since Eclipse.

Facing The Animal is your homework for today then my friend 😀🤘
It gets better after the first track...
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Post by: ozzy554 on July 27, 2017, 09:05:05 AM: A statement from JSS

"This is a fabulous statement, oh my! Can't say I blame him, his vocal prowess has increased .05fold the past two decades! Why would he want to work with horrible hacks like myself, Ripper or Joe...and deal with our egos...like wanting to hear ourselves onstage within the cavalcade of Marshall's, or getting our measly salaries on time (or at all)...or maybe it was the desire to be 'buds' that got in the way? Carry on there Sing-vay, you got this!

On a side note, I wrote more than 3/4 of the lyrics and 1/2 melodies for I'll See The Light Tonight, all of the lyrics for Caught In The Middle and Don't Let It End (he wrote the title and got 50% of authorship) and all off On The Run Again (title included). So much for writing EVERYTHING but you must admit, a Puerto Rican 'faking' the praises about a Viking was pretty convincing no? 🙂"
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Post by: Evermind on July 27, 2017, 09:23:38 AM: :corn

Regarding that Dio "tour", I have no idea why people would buy tickets for that. It's a total joke. I must say though, I laughed out loud at this random comment on FB:

Quote
Now he needs to record a new album and win a HoloGrammy Award.

:rollin
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Post by: Samsara on July 27, 2017, 09:24:37 AM: Ouch. lol.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 27, 2017, 12:14:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 27, 2017, 06:27:33 AM
I didn't pay attention to Yngwie for the longest time, but I really liked that first album he did with Owens, Perpetual Flame.

I really liked this one too. Red Devil gets stuck in your head for awhile after you hear it.

But when it comes to Yngwie, I typically just stick with his first two releases.
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2017, 06:27:48 AM: Quote from: ozzy554 on July 27, 2017, 09:05:05 AM
A statement from JSS

"This is a fabulous statement, oh my! Can't say I blame him, his vocal prowess has increased .05fold the past two decades! Why would he want to work with horrible hacks like myself, Ripper or Joe...and deal with our egos...like wanting to hear ourselves onstage within the cavalcade of Marshall's, or getting our measly salaries on time (or at all)...or maybe it was the desire to be 'buds' that got in the way? Carry on there Sing-vay, you got this!

On a side note, I wrote more than 3/4 of the lyrics and 1/2 melodies for I'll See The Light Tonight, all of the lyrics for Caught In The Middle and Don't Let It End (he wrote the title and got 50% of authorship) and all off On The Run Again (title included). So much for writing EVERYTHING but you must admit, a Puerto Rican 'faking' the praises about a Viking was pretty convincing no? 🙂"

Great statement.

And from Ripper;

"Pretty sure it's because we all quit. Hahaha. Blah blah blah!" Tim then added: "Let [Yngwie] enjoy the singing!"

haha, er, well done Tim, take that Malmsteen!
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Post by: Art on July 28, 2017, 07:57:56 AM: That was a stupid statement by Malmsteen. Saw him last year (my wife is a big fan), and the stage set is just ridiculous. :lol

Malmsteen gets 3/4 of the stage for his amps and his leg move (wich he does like 150 times per song), and the other three guys are cramped up in the corner. You can't even see the drummer and the bass player.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 28, 2017, 02:48:12 PM: New Sweet Lynch track. It rocks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=C3KsWifXpdA

And JLT's response to Yngwie 😀

MALMSTEEN ARTICLE REBUTTAL

In regard to the recent Malmsteen article, I feel compelled to rebut his delusional statements.

The 'Odyssey' album was his biggest success that he has not since and will never repeat again. It's undeniable that I am responsible for 50% of the writing credits namely the melody and lyrics and 100% of the vocal performances.

Malmsteen's statements can only be taken as the rantings of a megalomaniac desperately trying to justify his own insecurity. His claim that 'singers' are too egotistical is moronic and pathetic coming from him. The fact that he would lash out at all the great vocalists and respectful gentlemen that he had the good fortune and honor to work with is simply outrageous.

How sad does a man become when he has to downgrade others to make himself feel big and important. This man thrives on public approval and needs total control because
he lives in personal fear. I quit 'Rising Force' because of his intolerable and twisted ego.

If your pride is bigger than your heart and your ego is bigger than your head grow up or you will be alone for life. But after all, who can blame a child who shits his pants because he just doesn't know any better.

JLT
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2017, 03:50:52 PM: Wow, nice JLT.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 28, 2017, 06:20:10 PM: That Sweet Lynch song does rock!!! :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2017, 06:40:29 AM: Man, "Promised Land" has to be the most used name for a song. I think I've already got 8 or 9 different songs in my library by that name.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 29, 2017, 07:12:29 AM: Keep it quiet guys but I have it on good authority that Trump will be announcing that Yngwie is replacing Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 29, 2017, 07:37:56 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 29, 2017, 06:40:29 AM
Man, "Promised Land" has to be the most used name for a song. I think I've already got 8 or 9 different songs in my library by that name.

Is that all? 😀 I hadn't noticed what the title was tbh, but yeah, cliche city there.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 29, 2017, 07:42:43 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 29, 2017, 07:37:56 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 29, 2017, 06:40:29 AM
Man, "Promised Land" has to be the most used name for a song. I think I've already got 8 or 9 different songs in my library by that name.

Is that all? 😀 I hadn't noticed what the title was tbh, but yeah, cliche city there.

I have 19 tracks with Promised Land as (or in) the song title.

I thought I would test "Hold On" and gave up at 30 with plenty more to be counted.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 29, 2017, 09:04:49 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 29, 2017, 07:42:43 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 29, 2017, 07:37:56 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 29, 2017, 06:40:29 AM
Man, "Promised Land" has to be the most used name for a song. I think I've already got 8 or 9 different songs in my library by that name.

Is that all? 😀 I hadn't noticed what the title was tbh, but yeah, cliche city there.

I have 19 tracks with Promised Land as (or in) the song title.

I thought I would test "Hold On" and gave up at 30 with plenty more to be counted.

Every AOR band worth its salt has a song called In The Heat Of The Night
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Post by: bl5150 on July 29, 2017, 09:07:01 AM: under the gun , out on the run :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on July 29, 2017, 02:33:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 29, 2017, 09:07:01 AM
under the gun , out on the run :metal

Dreams...
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Post by: TAC on July 30, 2017, 06:59:39 AM: Just kind of catching up on this Yngwie/vocalists stuff.

My Top Three Vocal performances are well established:

Labrie-I&W
Kiske-Keepers Pt 2
Tate-O:M

But #4 would be JSS on Marching Out. He RULES that album.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 30, 2017, 07:49:06 AM: Yeah .......I've said it before that I really hated JSS on the debut Rising Force at the time. Then Marching Out comes along and I was saying "Who's this new guy?" and I couldn't believe it when it saw it was the same singer. He matured massively between those albums and then I had the same experience when I heard the debut Talisman - couldn't believe it was the same guy again (much smoother vocal). From there he became one of my top few vocalists and I collected just about every damn thing he appeared on.
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Post by: TAC on July 30, 2017, 07:55:26 AM: The two vocal tracks on Rising Force seemed like such throw away tracks.

I've never followed JSS post Yngwie.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 30, 2017, 09:01:52 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 30, 2017, 07:55:26 AM
The two vocal tracks on Rising Force seemed like such throw away tracks.

I've never followed JSS post Yngwie.

The Axel Rudi Pell albums he sang on, the first Eyes album and Kuni are worth checking out.
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Post by: ozzy554 on July 31, 2017, 04:40:57 PM: The sampler video for the new Black Country Communion album sounds really solid. Hopefully they don't break up while trying to tour lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 04, 2017, 12:33:55 PM: Anybody else pick up the new Accept? It's Accept 101, but everything is sounding good upon first listens.

I wouldn't expect any new kind of sound from the band and it definitely fits in with the last three releases.
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Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2017, 03:51:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 04, 2017, 12:33:55 PM
Anybody else pick up the new Accept? It's Accept 101, but everything is sounding good upon first listens.

I wouldn't expect any new kind of sound from the band and it definitely fits in with the last three releases.

Didn't realise it was out already! I'll have a listen but nothing I've heard has really wowed me.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 05, 2017, 03:00:04 PM: Avantasia are on wacken's live stream currently...
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Post by: bl5150 on August 09, 2017, 06:55:55 AM: Trump just said he is going to "unleash fury" on North Korea. I told you guys Yngwie would soon be pulling the strings at the White House and nobody believed me :hat
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Post by: bl5150 on August 09, 2017, 07:38:59 AM: Just had a listen to Alice Cooper's new one. Strong start but didn't think the second half was as good. At least it doesn't sound like everything else - it's not hard to tell when some effort gets put in even if it's not wholly my cuppa tea.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 09, 2017, 08:22:55 AM: I've just listened once. Was ok, certainly not horrible like the last few.

Listened to the Kryptonite yesterday. Thought it was ok, but more of the same Frontiers copy and paste. Singer from the Poodles lifts it up a bit as he has some personality to his voice at least.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 09, 2017, 05:09:39 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 09, 2017, 08:22:55 AM
I've just listened once. Was ok, certainly not horrible like the last few.

Do you include Welcome 2 My Nightmare in that? - listening now (only 4 or 5 songs in) and it has some pretty decent stuff on it I think. I enjoyed the nice mix of old and new on The Last Temptation too but beyond those I have already mentioned in the album thread I'm pretty happy that I now have most of his best stuff.
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Post by: TAC on August 09, 2017, 05:31:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2017, 07:38:59 AM
Just had a listen to Alice Cooper's new one. Strong start but didn't think the second half was as good. At least it doesn't sound like everything else - it's not hard to tell when some effort gets put in even if it's not wholly my cuppa tea.

I think it's pretty solid all the way through. Of the last 5 tracks, the only one I don't love is Public Private Breakdown.

But I'm a huge Alice fan. I love this album's nod to his early 80's era. It's far too underappreciated.
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Post by: TAC on August 09, 2017, 05:51:55 PM: Just back from vacation. Look who I ran into!

(https://i.imgur.com/MXeqkzx.jpg)
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Post by: King Postwhore on August 09, 2017, 07:13:14 PM: So awesome Tim.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 09, 2017, 11:59:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2017, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 09, 2017, 08:22:55 AM
I've just listened once. Was ok, certainly not horrible like the last few.

Do you include Welcome 2 My Nightmare in that? - listening now (only 4 or 5 songs in) and it has some pretty decent stuff on it I think.

And...........downhill from there :lol

Nice pic Tim. :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on August 10, 2017, 02:47:22 AM: Nice one Tim. Should have said - I have a mate in Dublin. I could have nipped over 😀

Yeah, WTMN2 had a few ok songs. Didn't hate it as much as the albums after Last Temptation. Never been tempted to go back to it though.
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Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2017, 06:38:43 AM: Cool ass pic Tim!! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2017, 06:26:58 AM: So, of all the shit that mr.com rates at 98%, 99% or 100%, I have a look tonight and the Ferrymen has been given a 59%?!

Okay it's not Battle era Magnus Karlsson but what is. it's a solid, enjoyable album nevertheless. But 59? Piss off!

The songs just aren’t there and the vocals leave me cold I’m afraid to say. There’s no issue at all with the musical performances or production, it is just a project that looked good on paper, but failed to deliver in reality.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2017, 07:46:06 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 11, 2017, 06:26:58 AM
The songs just aren’t there and the vocals leave me cold I’m afraid to say. There’s no issue at all with the musical performances or production, it is just a project that looked good on paper, but failed to deliver in reality.

:youfail:
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Post by: Lowdz on August 11, 2017, 03:27:25 PM: Haven't been there in years. Used to love it there but the reviews got ridiculous and clearly done to please the sponsor.
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Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2017, 04:58:18 PM: New Nocturnal Rites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esXmQdd81ZA

Per Nilsson really has a big influence on the sound of this one. It's Grand Illusion style but kind of like Scar Symmetry without the growls. I can dig it. Still has the nice NR hook.

The solo section sounds directly from a Scar Symmetry track, which really throws me.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 11, 2017, 05:13:14 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 11, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Haven't been there in years. Used to love it there but the reviews got ridiculous and clearly done to please the sponsor.

Even a few of his disciples are having a go at him I see.

I have been very suspicious of his motives with reviews for some time (and I'm a fan and have known him since before the site started in the late 90's) but that just pretty much confirms he has gone off the rails. A review around 60% on his site - even back when he was objective- is an absolute spanking. I think it's a good album with 2 or 3 standout tracks and therefore my rating range is low-mid 80's. I could understand even low 70's at a pinch but 59% is just having us on.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 11, 2017, 06:13:46 PM: I actually just checked out that melodic rock site. I'm not sure if I've ever been there before, I can't remember. But I checked out the score for the new Quiet Riot and it got 30%.

I remember seeing footage of James Durbin on American Idol singing with Judas Priest. He appeared to be a good singer and when they showed the initial live footage of him singing with Quiet Riot, I thought he did a very good job. But when I listened to a couple of new studio tracks with him, wow, 30% might be generous. It's truly terrible and mr.com saying it's one of the worst albums he's heard might be accurate.
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Post by: TAC on August 11, 2017, 06:49:30 PM: 30% is 30 points too high for that piece of shit.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 11, 2017, 06:50:17 PM: :lol
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Post by: gazinwales on August 11, 2017, 07:12:54 PM: The thing to remember with AM and MR.com, that site is his full time job, his source of income and he supports a family with it.
He has to be careful not to offend anyone really, current and potential sponsors, I would be the same if I were in his position too.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 11, 2017, 10:27:46 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on August 11, 2017, 07:12:54 PM
The thing to remember with AM and MR.com, that site is his full time job, his source of income and he supports a family with it.
He has to be careful not to offend anyone really, current and potential sponsors, I would be the same if I were in his position too.

I would be far more accepting if he didn't positively bristle at any suggestion that his reviews (and the albums he chooses for review) aren't 100% objective.

Anyway........the whole site is a very different animal. He now makes most of his money from his own label , so the news feed is mostly promos for his bands vs he used to be a good source of news. And any reviews (if and when he gets around to it) are mostly predictable releases and predictable ratings vs he used to do a good job of exposing his audience to largely unknown material.
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Post by: gazinwales on August 12, 2017, 01:37:10 AM: Oh I knew had a label, but no idea it was making money for him :o
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Post by: Lowdz on August 12, 2017, 03:48:01 AM: Mixed feelings about the Nocturnal Rites. Great chorus as always, ripping solo. What I didn't love is the guitar sound every single metal player has these days, and the 7 string. I hate them.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 12, 2017, 03:55:36 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 12, 2017, 03:48:01 AM
Mixed feelings about the Nocturnal Rites. Great chorus as always, ripping solo. What I didn't love is the guitar sound every single metal player has these days, and the 7 string. I hate them.

Ditto - supposedly JP is going for an 8 so that has me very excited :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on August 12, 2017, 11:48:45 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 12, 2017, 03:55:36 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 12, 2017, 03:48:01 AM
Mixed feelings about the Nocturnal Rites. Great chorus as always, ripping solo. What I didn't love is the guitar sound every single metal player has these days, and the 7 string. I hate them.

Ditto - supposedly JP is going for an 8 so that has me very excited :lol

Yeah I shuddered when I heard that.
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Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2017, 04:20:36 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 12, 2017, 03:48:01 AM
Mixed feelings about the Nocturnal Rites. Great chorus as always, ripping solo. What I didn't love is the guitar sound every single metal player has these days, and the 7 string. I hate them.

As I said, Per has a lot of influence on this one and I can see why some of you guys might not warm to it so much. Per Nilsson is the lead guitarist in the band now and his other band is Scar Symmetry. Take a listen. Not expecting you guys to like it but can show you the influence he's having here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbEn-WhB_k0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylTmVkmsuws
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Post by: Lowdz on August 16, 2017, 01:13:47 PM: According to Blabbermouth, Vinnie Vincent is signed up to attend the KISS expo next year...
File this one in the believe it when I see it file.
I wouldn't pay him anything up front.
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Post by: gazinwales on August 16, 2017, 02:05:47 PM: Yeah I wonder why VV has surfaced after almost 20 years?
Money?
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Post by: TAC on August 16, 2017, 03:52:28 PM: I think he saw Kiss expo and read it backwards as Po' ex Kiss and raised his hand.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 17, 2017, 02:58:29 AM: He was a great songwriter and I love his guitar playing. Shame he appears to have mental health issues. I'd like to think he's been working on material all this time but I think realistically he's become a hermit/dropout from society.

Last known contact with mankind, he was living in squalor with dead dogs in his house, so I'm not expecting a VVI III 😀
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Post by: Lowdz on August 18, 2017, 04:57:09 PM: New Lynch Mob song is shit. Sounds awful, more of that personal pet hate distortion on the vocal, didn't get past about 30 seconds.

https://www.hairbandheaven.rocks/single-post/2017/08/18/LYNCH-MOBs-Mr-Jekyll-And-Hyde-Video-Premiere
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Post by: TAC on August 18, 2017, 05:16:01 PM: So since our trip, I've been in a total Thin Lizzy/Gary Moore mood. I finally bought this:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/ba/One_night_in_dublin.jpg/220px-One_night_in_dublin.jpg)

I just want to say that this DVD is phenomenal. I have no good excuse for never having gotten this before. I've watched it a couple of times and it gives me goosebumps the entire way through. It's amazing.

And another question...Does Scott Gorham somehow get overlooked? So much is made of the long line of guitarists that came and went, but Gorham was always there and was as responsible for their sound as anyone. Plus the dude had some of the best hair in rock n roll.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 19, 2017, 03:11:41 AM: Always enjoyed Scott Gorham's playing. I've only seen this on tv so will have to check whether there's any extra tracks not broadcast.
Have you tried the first 21 Guns album?
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Post by: TAC on August 19, 2017, 10:18:32 AM: No. Added to the list.
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Post by: Big Hath on August 19, 2017, 01:42:00 PM: that's a good one
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2017, 01:29:30 PM: I was just listening to the three Magnitude 9 albums and this is some awesome music. Melodic, heavy and progressive. I doubt they will ever make any other albums; I think I heard that the singer is now in Balance of Power, which is a much bigger band.

But the three M9 albums have some great tunes on it!
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Post by: Lowdz on August 20, 2017, 01:48:46 PM: I had Reality in Focus back in the day and enjoyed it. It's decent stuff.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2017, 03:10:50 PM: I've got all 3 as well. Like many albums/artists in my library, I don't listen to them often, but when I do, I thoroughly enjoy it. Reality in Focus made my 2nd Top 50, iirc.
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Post by: TAC on August 20, 2017, 03:14:11 PM: Checking Reality In Focus now. Sounds pretty good.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 20, 2017, 05:47:04 PM: I only have Decoding The Soul and thought it was pretty average.

Quote from: jjrock88 on August 20, 2017, 01:29:30 PM
I think I heard that the singer is now in Balance of Power, which is a much bigger band.

He is listed as their vocalist in places but they haven't released a studio album in almost 15 years and he has never appeared on a studio release. Hopefully they do something as I like the band - Book of Secrets appeared in my Top 50/125 :D I think.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2017, 07:44:09 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 20, 2017, 05:47:04 PM
I only have Decoding The Soul and thought it was pretty average.

That's because it is.
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2017, 05:06:14 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 20, 2017, 05:47:04 PM
I only have Decoding The Soul and thought it was pretty average.

Same. I think only one song stood out from memory.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 21, 2017, 05:38:49 AM: Both of you should give Reality in Focus a go. It's their best album by far.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 21, 2017, 10:34:24 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 21, 2017, 05:38:49 AM
Both of you should give Reality in Focus a go. It's their best album by far.

It is really good. The cover of Flight of Icarus is a bit of a waste of time, but it's worth a listen.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 21, 2017, 04:09:00 PM: Found this on YouTube and really liked it. Anyone heard the whole thing? And by anyone, I mean Brent, obviously 😀😀😀😀

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/melodicrock-records/2017/06/30/jan-akessons-shadow-rain-ascension-showcase
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Post by: bl5150 on August 21, 2017, 04:14:47 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 21, 2017, 04:09:00 PM
Found this on YouTube and really liked it. Anyone heard the whole thing? And by anyone, I mean Brent, obviously 😀😀😀😀

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/melodicrock-records/2017/06/30/jan-akessons-shadow-rain-ascension-showcase

Not yet mate but , like you, I have heard enough to have me interested in it. :tup
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Post by: Lowdz on August 22, 2017, 05:13:22 PM: https://www.facebook.com/leatherwolfmetal/videos/1872253356134473/

Leatherwolf sounding good :metal

They're playing about 60 miles from here later this week but I'm not well enough to drive it. Shame.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 22, 2017, 08:30:39 PM: Was just playing "Thunder" by Leatherwolf tonight!!
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Post by: TVC 15 on August 22, 2017, 08:48:33 PM: Premier Guitar Magazine clued me in on The Dead Dasies with John Corabi on vocals, Doug Aldrich on guitar and Marco Mendoza on bass among its members. This sure scratched the recent hard rock itch. I'm sure some folks in this message board would enjoy this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dead_Daisies (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dead_Daisies)

https://youtu.be/n1e0AAjXscE (https://youtu.be/n1e0AAjXscE)
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Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2017, 09:24:29 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on August 22, 2017, 08:48:33 PM
Premier Guitar Magazine clued me in on The Dead Dasies with John Corabi on vocals, Doug Aldrich on guitar and Marco Mendoza on bass among its members. This sure scratched the recent hard rock itch. I'm sure some folks in this message board would enjoy this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dead_Daisies (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dead_Daisies)

https://youtu.be/n1e0AAjXscE (https://youtu.be/n1e0AAjXscE)

I'm an Aldrich fan but I actually thought their last album was a lot stronger (better songs)

Quote from: Lowdz on August 22, 2017, 05:13:22 PM
https://www.facebook.com/leatherwolfmetal/videos/1872253356134473/

Leatherwolf sounding good :metal

They're playing about 60 miles from here later this week but I'm not well enough to drive it. Shame.

Nice - awesome sound (probably a bit too awesome) and good to see them pushing on. There was another version of the band not too long ago but it seems Olivieri's version has survived the battle. Joey Tafolla recently joined too.
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Post by: TVC 15 on August 22, 2017, 09:41:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 22, 2017, 09:24:29 PM

I'm an Aldrich fan but I actually thought their last album was a lot stronger (better songs)

Thank you for the tip. I'll have to check it out sometime.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 23, 2017, 04:18:18 AM: They do absolutely nothing for me. Not sure why as I do like bluesy hard rock. Not overly fond of Carobi's voice, maybe that's it, but I loved the first The Scream album.
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2017, 04:50:34 AM: Nothing I've heard from the Dead Daisies did anything for me. I find it funny how a band with the names in the lineup now started with Aussie born Jon Stevens.
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Post by: TVC 15 on August 23, 2017, 09:32:05 AM: My receptiveness to their music is probably also tied to the fact that it's been a while since I really dipped toes back into old school hard rock--at this point, the bar was set really low. I'll eventually build some sort of filter as I get deep into it again :smiley:
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Post by: TAC on August 23, 2017, 03:22:24 PM: (https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2017%20II/hamflottouraug.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2017, 04:18:15 PM: Man, that last Hammerfall album was so disappointing.
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Post by: TAC on August 23, 2017, 07:26:40 PM: I think I heard it once or twice after buying it. I'm actually listening to it now. It just didn't hook me.

I also didn't care for Infected, though I know you did, Kade.

Also, I am definitely enjoying the new Accept. Some very tasty licks on this.
This second life of Accept has been very satisfying. It doesn't have the range of 80's Accept, but these are solid releases. And by solid, I mean :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2017, 07:40:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 23, 2017, 07:26:40 PM
Also, I am definitely enjoying the new Accept. Some very tasty licks on this.
This second life of Accept has been very satisfying. It doesn't have the range of 80's Accept, but these are solid releases. And by solid, I mean :metal

"Solid" is reserved for the Issa-loving thread. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2017, 07:53:45 PM: I would definitely say that the new Accept was "solid" as well :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 23, 2017, 08:04:43 PM: (https://im12.it/g/24694)
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2017, 08:17:50 PM: We are all guilty of the "solid" analogy!
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Post by: TAC on August 23, 2017, 08:21:39 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 23, 2017, 08:17:50 PM
We are all guilty of the "solid" analogy!

That's because it's a um..solid analogy.

:neverusethis:
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2017, 08:52:22 PM: haha, that's actually a solid analogy of the aforementioned solid analogies.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2017, 09:23:45 PM: I am prepared to accept that Tim gets solid listening to Accept.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 24, 2017, 05:34:53 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 23, 2017, 09:23:45 PM
I am prepared to accept that Tim gets solid listening to Accept.

:rollin :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2017, 06:20:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 23, 2017, 09:23:45 PM
I am prepared to accept that Tim gets solid listening to Accept.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/NnGGHE0muVqpO/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Lowdz on August 24, 2017, 09:08:09 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 24, 2017, 05:34:53 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 23, 2017, 09:23:45 PM
I am prepared to accept that Tim gets solid listening to Accept.

:rollin :rollin

Tim had a Hard Attack listening to Accept 😀
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Post by: TAC on August 24, 2017, 06:59:10 PM: Not sure I can accept this solid ball(s to the wall)busting.
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Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2017, 09:57:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 24, 2017, 06:59:10 PM
Not sure I can accept this solid ball(s to the wall)busting.

You seem so restless and wild over all of this.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 26, 2017, 12:27:02 PM: I'm Up To The Limit on the puns I can take...
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Post by: TAC on August 26, 2017, 04:08:00 PM: Yeah, it's eventually Bound To Fail.
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2017, 04:19:23 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 26, 2017, 12:27:02 PM
I'm Up To The Limit on the puns I can take...

Quote from: TAC on August 26, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
Yeah, it's eventually Bound To Fail.

Don't be like that boys, where's your metal hearts at? Sounds more like you're screaming for a love bite.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 28, 2017, 04:46:14 PM: New Babylon AD. Not the geatest track ever but at least they are a band and Del Veccio hasn't been near it... I think.
https://youtu.be/3EF9HwFmcYY

If you don't know them, the first two albums are excellent.
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Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:13:27 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 28, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
New Babylon AD. Not the geatest track ever but at least they are a band and Del Veccio hasn't been near it... I think.
https://youtu.be/3EF9HwFmcYY

If you don't know them, the first two albums are excellent.

I've never heard of them, but damn I got 1 minute into that song. That was just awful.
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Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:16:17 PM: Dunno if this new Sweet and Lynch track has been posted but, man this isn't very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErnZeGPHNRI
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Post by: bl5150 on August 28, 2017, 05:20:24 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:13:27 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 28, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
New Babylon AD. Not the geatest track ever but at least they are a band and Del Veccio hasn't been near it... I think.
https://youtu.be/3EF9HwFmcYY

If you don't know them, the first two albums are excellent.

I've never heard of them, but damn I got 1 minute into that song. That was just awful.

I played The Kid Goes Wild in the #-B's hard rock rarities show . If you listened to that Kade you have heard them.

There's certainly nothing to get excited about in that new track but I can't say I am surprised.
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Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:21:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 28, 2017, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:13:27 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 28, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
New Babylon AD. Not the geatest track ever but at least they are a band and Del Veccio hasn't been near it... I think.
https://youtu.be/3EF9HwFmcYY

If you don't know them, the first two albums are excellent.

I've never heard of them, but damn I got 1 minute into that song. That was just awful.

I played The Kid Goes Wild in the #-B's hard rock rarities show . If you listened to that Kade you have heard them.

There's certainly nothing to get excited about in that new track but I can't say I am surprised.

Yeah I did, obviously one I didn't take much notice of as I don't recall.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 28, 2017, 05:24:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:16:17 PM
Dunno if this new Sweet and Lynch track has been posted but, man this isn't very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErnZeGPHNRI

Yeah..............Lynch has produced so many albums of material in the last year or two , between Lynch Mob ,Sweet/Lynch, Shadowtrain, KXM etc.........that it's almost inevitable that the quality has to suffer. The Karlsson/Hughes factor - although those two have thankfully slowed down a bit in recent times.
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Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:30:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 28, 2017, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:16:17 PM
Dunno if this new Sweet and Lynch track has been posted but, man this isn't very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErnZeGPHNRI

Yeah..............Lynch has produced so many albums of material in the last year or two , between Lynch Mob ,Sweet/Lynch, Shadowtrain etc.........that it's almost inevitable that the quality has to suffer. The Karlsson/Hughes factor - although those two have thankfully slowed down a bit in recent times.

Wasn;t impressed with either track so far and even the debut had a lot of filler so not really holding out much hope with this one.

Now that you mention Hughes, I think I wrote off the new Ten album before even listening to it. I don't mind it. Still has the Ten filler with some horrible lyrics like every single other Ten album but there's some really good songs on here and even fresh sounding for Gary with a lot of fantastic guitar work. The opener is classic Ten, really good stuff. If only Gary could get a full album of songs like The Grail, Travellers, Man of All Seasons and King of Winter. Those are some of the best tunes Gary has done for a while IMO.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 28, 2017, 05:40:10 PM: I listened to the 1st half of the Ten album (Gothica I think it was called?). Nothing wrong with it, but it was nothing I hadn't heard from Ten a dozen times already. I think of it as ARP syndrome - I couldn't tell you any of the track names, but I bet I could tell you the track #. :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 28, 2017, 07:22:06 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 28, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
New Babylon AD. Not the geatest track ever

Quote from: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:16:17 PM
Dunno if this new Sweet and Lynch track has been posted but, man this isn't very good.

:lol

Thanks for posting!
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Post by: bl5150 on August 28, 2017, 07:27:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 28, 2017, 07:22:06 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 28, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
New Babylon AD. Not the geatest track ever

Quote from: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:16:17 PM
Dunno if this new Sweet and Lynch track has been posted but, man this isn't very good.

:lol

Thanks for posting!

Says the guy about to be bombarded with shite that is 100x worse than any of the above ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 07:47:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 28, 2017, 07:22:06 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 28, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
New Babylon AD. Not the geatest track ever

Quote from: wolfking on August 28, 2017, 05:16:17 PM
Dunno if this new Sweet and Lynch track has been posted but, man this isn't very good.

:lol

Thanks for posting!

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/kip-winger-during-pirate-radio-party-in-los-angeles-california-united-picture-id111174969)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 28, 2017, 07:47:52 PM: Exactly! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 30, 2017, 03:56:41 AM: New T Mac track. Enjoyed it. Some nice melodies in it. I really wasn't a fan of Concrete Gardens, too much low end 7 string stuff, discordant riffs iirc, but this sounds better.

https://www.facebook.com/tonymacalpineofficial/videos/10156675582444517/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2017, 05:38:25 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 30, 2017, 03:56:41 AM
New T Mac track. Enjoyed it. Some nice melodies in it. I really wasn't a fan of Concrete Gardens, too much low end 7 string stuff, discordant riffs iirc, but this sounds better.

https://www.facebook.com/tonymacalpineofficial/videos/10156675582444517/

Sounded pretty similar to the style of the last one for me to be honest. I didn't mind the last one, but it was hard to listen to and not something that you would throw on for a listen, it was a challenge.

Saying that, this does have a bit more melody and really with TMac having that cancer scare, it's just so good to still have him around and being able to enjoy new music from him, so I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 31, 2017, 05:48:56 AM: https://bravewords.com/news/bassist-tim-gaines-confirms-exit-from-stryper-i-m-no-longer-working-with-them
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 31, 2017, 10:30:23 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2017, 05:48:56 AM
https://bravewords.com/news/bassist-tim-gaines-confirms-exit-from-stryper-i-m-no-longer-working-with-them

What, again? 😀😱
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 31, 2017, 01:27:02 PM: New Manimal track. Not had chance to listen to it yet

https://youtu.be/IP7vZ5t4Baw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 31, 2017, 03:02:40 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 31, 2017, 01:27:02 PM
New Manimal track. Not had chance to listen to it yet

https://youtu.be/IP7vZ5t4Baw

Not new (it's from Trapped in the Shadows - the YT description even says so! :P). Just a new/live video shoot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 31, 2017, 03:41:07 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 31, 2017, 03:02:40 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 31, 2017, 01:27:02 PM
New Manimal track. Not had chance to listen to it yet

https://youtu.be/IP7vZ5t4Baw

Not new (it's from Trapped in the Shadows - the YT description even says so! :P). Just a new/live video shoot.

Ah, I was in a rush and didn't get that far. Still not listened to it. No great need now 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 31, 2017, 06:14:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2017, 05:48:56 AM
https://bravewords.com/news/bassist-tim-gaines-confirms-exit-from-stryper-i-m-no-longer-working-with-them

This sets up a reunion tour in 2020. Smart plan actually.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 31, 2017, 06:25:24 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 31, 2017, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2017, 05:48:56 AM
https://bravewords.com/news/bassist-tim-gaines-confirms-exit-from-stryper-i-m-no-longer-working-with-them

This sets up a reunion tour in 2020. Smart plan actually.

Double whammy..............Gaines reunites his marriage and the band. Jeezuz ::) ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 31, 2017, 07:00:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 31, 2017, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2017, 05:48:56 AM
https://bravewords.com/news/bassist-tim-gaines-confirms-exit-from-stryper-i-m-no-longer-working-with-them

This sets up a reunion tour in 2020. Smart plan actually.

I can see the blabbermouth headline:

Stryper re"Gaines" a bass player.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2017, 07:14:41 PM: Wasn't he the reason they went on that very small hiatus anyway before the last album? Still hasn't gotten over his marriage? Ouch man.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 01, 2017, 09:34:58 AM: https://youtu.be/HNsFSimANzM

New Europe track from the album due in October. Caught me by surprise whilst scouring YouTube. A Zep vibe going on. It's ok on first listen, but a slow paced stomper.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2017, 12:55:16 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 01, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
https://youtu.be/HNsFSimANzM

New Europe track from the album due in October. Caught me by surprise whilst scouring YouTube. A Zep vibe going on. It's ok on first listen, but a slow paced stomper.

Not a bad tune at all. I dig it. If you want a Zeppelin vibe, check out Greta Van Fleet (just a 4-song EP). They're not much to look at, but damn they are channeling some inner Zeppelin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJg4OJxp-co
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2017, 06:14:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 01, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
https://youtu.be/HNsFSimANzM

New Europe track from the album due in October. Caught me by surprise whilst scouring YouTube. A Zep vibe going on. It's ok on first listen, but a slow paced stomper.

This statement alone makes me want to not even click the link.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 01, 2017, 06:15:45 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 01, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
https://youtu.be/HNsFSimANzM

New Europe track from the album due in October. Caught me by surprise whilst scouring YouTube. A Zep vibe going on. It's ok on first listen, but a slow paced stomper.

This statement alone makes me want to not even click the lick.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2017, 07:44:03 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2017, 05:19:48 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 01, 2017, 06:15:45 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 01, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
https://youtu.be/HNsFSimANzM

New Europe track from the album due in October. Caught me by surprise whilst scouring YouTube. A Zep vibe going on. It's ok on first listen, but a slow paced stomper.

This statement alone makes me want to not even click the lick.

Well played. :clap:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 02, 2017, 08:09:56 AM: https://youtu.be/MN5bWwkeWAo

New Nocturnal Rites. I like it. Cool solo section too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on September 02, 2017, 08:46:04 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 01, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
https://youtu.be/HNsFSimANzM

New Europe track from the album due in October. Caught me by surprise whilst scouring YouTube. A Zep vibe going on. It's ok on first listen, but a slow paced stomper.

I dug it. I liked their last album, War Of Kings.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 02, 2017, 10:58:55 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on September 02, 2017, 08:46:04 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 01, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
https://youtu.be/HNsFSimANzM

New Europe track from the album due in October. Caught me by surprise whilst scouring YouTube. A Zep vibe going on. It's ok on first listen, but a slow paced stomper.

I dug it. I liked their last album, War Of Kings.

They've been a bit hit and miss for me since reforming but War Of Kings was excellent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2017, 05:28:59 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 02, 2017, 08:09:56 AM
https://youtu.be/MN5bWwkeWAo

New Nocturnal Rites. I like it. Cool solo section too.

Sounds a lot like later In Flames to me in the music, which is sweet with me. This album is sounding promising.

Per Nilsson is an absolute master!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2017, 06:03:13 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 03, 2017, 05:28:59 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 02, 2017, 08:09:56 AM
https://youtu.be/MN5bWwkeWAo

New Nocturnal Rites. I like it. Cool solo section too.

Sounds a lot like later In Flames to me in the music, which is sweet with me. This album is sounding promising.

Per Nilsson is an absolute master!

I want to like In Flames and we know why I don't. I can't believe something so beautiful can make a sound so ugly 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2017, 05:35:33 AM: New PC69 album on the 10th of Nov.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 04, 2017, 12:53:05 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 04, 2017, 05:35:33 AM
New PC69 album on the 10th of Nov.

Please tell me Del Vechio hasn't been anywhere near it?
It's always a pleasure to hear David Redman though.

And Brent, how was th Kee of a Hearts? There's even a big cheesy smile on the bloody cover. Is it a cheesy smile concept album? 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 04, 2017, 04:57:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 04, 2017, 12:53:05 PM

And Brent, how was th Kee of a Hearts?

It's O-Kee :neverusethis: Keepin' it cheesy. ;)

Unfortunately you have already heard the best couple of tracks (the opening two). The rest is pretty much a DelVecchio special with the added attraction of one of my favourite singers and favourite guitarists. Those two guys elevate it above the standard Frontiers drivel but only just.

Rating 83% (which is about as high as most stuff I have heard lately with only a couple of exceptions).

I do hope they take it forward and put a bit more time into creating something with some more original ideas. Tommy and Kee do sound very good together and it's cool to hear Kee returning to this more melodic style .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 04, 2017, 05:02:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 04, 2017, 04:57:20 PM
It's O-Kee :neverusethis:

:facepalm:

Quote from: bl5150 on September 04, 2017, 04:57:20 PM
Keepin' it cheesy. ;)

Um..it's working.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:26:35 AM: New PC69 track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAzAbCdDtoQ

Yeah, not bad, I guess. Nothing new here though, of course. Readman sounds great as usual.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:27:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 04, 2017, 04:57:20 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 04, 2017, 12:53:05 PM

And Brent, how was th Kee of a Hearts?

It's O-Kee :neverusethis: Keepin' it cheesy. ;)

Unfortunately you have already heard the best couple of tracks (the opening two). The rest is pretty much a DelVecchio special with the added attraction of one of my favourite singers and favourite guitarists. Those two guys elevate it above the standard Frontiers drivel but only just.

Rating 83% (which is about as high as most stuff I have heard lately with only a couple of exceptions).

I do hope they take it forward and put a bit more time into creating something with some more original ideas. Tommy and Kee do sound very good together and it's cool to hear Kee returning to this more melodic style .

I fucking knew this would be the case.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:33:22 AM: Dunno if this has been posted but a new JSS track;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGlcU-Jqsh4

This is actually really cool and a step up from the Soto band he was doing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 06:34:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:33:22 AM
Dunno if this has been posted but a new JSS track;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGlcU-Jqsh4

This is actually really cool and a step up from the Soto band he was doing.

Yeah - heard that the other day. That's about the right style for his voice these days. Nothing too original but it rocks - hopefully Howie Simon can come up from some cool ,fresh material after a break from working with JSS.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:38:05 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 06:34:56 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:33:22 AM
Dunno if this has been posted but a new JSS track;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGlcU-Jqsh4

This is actually really cool and a step up from the Soto band he was doing.

Yeah - heard that the other day. That's about the right style for his voice these days. Nothing too original but it rocks - hopefully Howie Simon can come up from some cool ,fresh material after a break from working with JSS.

It was a nice surprise to see his name back in this band working with JSS again.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 05, 2017, 11:12:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:38:05 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 06:34:56 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:33:22 AM
Dunno if this has been posted but a new JSS track;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGlcU-Jqsh4

This is actually really cool and a step up from the Soto band he was doing.

Yeah - heard that the other day. That's about the right style for his voice these days. Nothing too original but it rocks - hopefully Howie Simon can come up from some cool ,fresh material after a break from working with JSS.

It was a nice surprise to see his name back in this band working with JSS again.

He released a ballad from it yesterday, Song For Joey, about his brother who has been in a coma since the start of the year. Nice song, great vocal. Hoping for a good album from him because it's been a long time since he did anything that interested me.
That first track is only ok. Didn't set my world alight.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 03:46:06 PM: Wow, that's terrible news about his brother.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 07:12:22 PM: Just tried the new album from Adagio and had to quit after a few songs. Too smart by half - just a mess of power, prog and ahhhhhh.................djent. Kelly Carpenter seems unable to find a band that can harness his talents and produce something decent.

Next in the big 2017 catch up - Iced Earth.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 05, 2017, 07:20:43 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 07:12:22 PM
Just tried the new album from Adagio
First thing I thought of:

(https://i3.ytimg.com/vi/BTyWfQQuGrE/mqdefault.jpg)

Quote from: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 07:12:22 PM
Next in the big 2017 catch up - Iced Earth.

The Iced Earth is pretty um...solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 07:23:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 05, 2017, 07:20:43 PM
The Iced Earth is pretty um...solid.

After the first two tracks I would go with that.

Or "The Iced Earth is pretty..........Iced Earth"

All very familiar but doubt I will need to skip much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 05, 2017, 07:24:04 PM: Seems a bit more straightforward. I like that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 07:55:13 PM: The Iced Earth was really good. Great solos for once, Stu sounds decent enough and it's very straightforward and not much filler. It's just not bloated with stuff you have to skip through, it's a really strong album IMO.

Quote from: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 07:12:22 PM
Just tried the new album from Adagio and had to quit after a few songs. Too smart by half - just a mess of power, prog and ahhhhhh.................djent. Kelly Carpenter seems unable to find a band that can harness his talents and produce something decent.

Next in the big 2017 catch up - Iced Earth.

I sampled a song on youtube a few weeks back and didn't make it through the whole song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 05, 2017, 08:04:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 05, 2017, 07:24:04 PM
Seems a bit more straightforward.

Quote from: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 07:55:13 PM
it's very straightforward

Hmm..you don't say? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 08:06:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 05, 2017, 08:04:24 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 05, 2017, 07:24:04 PM
Seems a bit more straightforward.

Quote from: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 07:55:13 PM
it's very straightforward

Hmm..you don't say? ;D

So.......that new Iced Earth is pretty solid and straightforward, huh?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 05, 2017, 08:10:31 PM: It's solidly straightforward.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 08:10:56 PM: Brent, I'm listening to Labyrinth of Dreams and I seem to go to youtube and play the whole thing quite often. What a fabulous album, thank you!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 05, 2017, 09:15:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 07:12:22 PM
Kelly Carpenter seems unable to find a band that can harness his talents and produce something decent.

Tell me about it. What he sings is either f'n awesome, or tripe - all depends on who's writing behind it. I'm such a fan of his voice, but far too often he's handed a sack full of shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 06, 2017, 05:32:41 PM: Coming November :metal Apparently quite a bit heavier than the debut

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/almanackingslayercd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 06, 2017, 05:56:20 PM: I'm up for that one. Especially if it's heavier!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 06, 2017, 05:57:45 PM: I found the last one to be hugely DTF overrated.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 06, 2017, 05:59:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 06, 2017, 05:57:45 PM
I found the last one to be hugely DTF overrated.

Stop giving 8's to Sacul/Zantera music and I will give your opinions on over-weighting some weight ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 06, 2017, 06:01:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 06, 2017, 05:59:37 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 06, 2017, 05:57:45 PM
I found the last one to be hugely DTF overrated.

Stop giving 8's to Sacul/Zantera music and I will give your opinions on over-weighting some weight ;D

:lol

Wait till the Round 2 scores!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 06, 2017, 06:44:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 06, 2017, 05:59:37 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 06, 2017, 05:57:45 PM
I found the last one to be hugely DTF overrated.

Stop giving 8's to Sacul/Zantera music and I will give your opinions on over-weighting some weight ;D

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 06, 2017, 06:58:51 PM: (https://s.quickmeme.com/img/8e/8e7eb9db96d460d29dcba2acbadfb111c8ca71444144b90ce38e61daece3ae4e.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on September 06, 2017, 10:14:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 06, 2017, 05:32:41 PM
Coming November :metal Apparently quite a bit heavier than the debut

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/almanackingslayercd.jpg)
:2metal:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2017, 05:27:53 AM: Trailer for the Almanac for everyone except Tim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3vH8iOYIeo

I'm hoping it's as heavy as they are saying. Can't hear much heavier stuff from the samples but as long as it's quality, it will be sweet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2017, 05:36:02 AM: Any Lord/Dungeon fans will dig this. They've uploaded a live video of the classic Netherlife live from ProgPower. Quality, would love a full show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvhl51VqYFc
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 07, 2017, 06:26:40 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on September 06, 2017, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 06, 2017, 05:32:41 PM
Coming November :metal Apparently quite a bit heavier than the debut

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/almanackingslayercd.jpg)
:2metal:

I second this. :2metal: :2metal:

Quote from: wolfking on September 07, 2017, 05:36:02 AM
Any Lord/Dungeon fans will dig this. They've uploaded a live video of the classic Netherlife live from ProgPower. Quality, would love a full show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvhl51VqYFc

It was most excellent. :P

Tim... I find YOU to be hugely over-rated. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 07, 2017, 07:09:23 AM: Nah, I'm just hugely.

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 07, 2017, 07:40:31 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 07, 2017, 05:27:53 AM
Trailer for the Almanac for everyone except Tim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3vH8iOYIeo

I'm hoping it's as heavy as they are saying. Can't hear much heavier stuff from the samples but as long as it's quality, it will be sweet.

Never bothered with this last time, not sure why.
I see David Redman is involved. Will check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 07, 2017, 07:57:11 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 07, 2017, 07:40:31 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 07, 2017, 05:27:53 AM
Trailer for the Almanac for everyone except Tim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3vH8iOYIeo

I'm hoping it's as heavy as they are saying. Can't hear much heavier stuff from the samples but as long as it's quality, it will be sweet.

Never bothered with this last time, not sure why.
I see David Redman is involved. Will check it out.

(https://images.creators.co/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_710/y1ojy4e0hnb5ht13q5ta/what-if-arnold-schwarzenegger-was-a-method-actor.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 07, 2017, 12:35:28 PM: https://youtu.be/V-R0xgaGYGY

New Primal Fear track from what looks like another best of. Cool cover of the Heart track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 07, 2017, 01:25:23 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 07, 2017, 12:35:28 PM
https://youtu.be/V-R0xgaGYGY

New Primal Fear track from what looks like another best of. Cool cover of the Heart track.

I've already bought this album in my mind! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on September 07, 2017, 05:01:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 07, 2017, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 07, 2017, 12:35:28 PM
https://youtu.be/V-R0xgaGYGY

New Primal Fear track from what looks like another best of. Cool cover of the Heart track.

I've already bought this album in my mind! :metal

Jay - you surely must have the best collection of "Best Of's" on DTF :)
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Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2017, 05:54:07 PM: I have never heard that Heart track. By the sounds of it, Tom and Alex didn't playing anything on this track.

If this is the only new thing on this, I don't need it. None of their albums really suffer from any production issues to me, bar maybe New Religion so I can't see what they can offer here.

EDIT: 4 new songs, including this one. Only has songs from New Religion forward. Talk about a cash grab from Frontiers!

Best Of Fear" track listing:

CD1

01. Area 16 (new song)
02. Predator (new song)
03. If Looks Could Kill (new song)
04. Thrill Of Speed (new song)
05. The End Is Near
06. Strike
07. Sign Of Fear
08. In Metal We Trust
09. When Death Comes Knocking
10. Six Times Dead
11. Angels Of Mercy
12. Unbreakable
13. Riding The Eagle
14. Rulebreaker
15. King For A Day
16. Bad Guys Wear Black

CD2

01. Every Time It Rains (feat. Simone Simons)
02. We Walk Without Fear
03. Fighting The Darkness (long version)
04. Hands Of Time
05. One Night In December
06. The Sky Is Burning
07. Where Angels Die
08. Black Rain
09. Born With A Broken Heart (feat. Liv Kristine) (remix)
10. Born Again
11. The Man (That I Don't Know)

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/primal-fear-to-release-best-of-fear-collection-featuring-four-new-songs/
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 07, 2017, 06:37:29 PM: It's a cash grab for sure but I'm not going to lie, amazon might as well already bill my visa.

I think I'll have to listen to that Heart cover a couple more times, it didn't grab me right off the bat. I still consider it to be solid though!
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Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2017, 08:55:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 07, 2017, 06:37:29 PM
It's a cash grab for sure but I'm not going to lie, amazon might as well already bill my visa.

:lol
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Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2017, 06:45:34 AM: I can't remember exactly what Brent said in regards to the new Accept but remember I think he mentioned it was pretty good except for that Koolaid song, and I've had a few listens and I have to agree. I actually would go as far to say it's bloody excellent.

The shitty Koolaid song isn't as bad when it's with the album and there's another one, the Analog one which is pretty cheesy but still doesn't make you cringe as much as the former, but everything else here is some of the strongest tunes they have produced with the new Mark era.

A lot of great, memorable melodies, Wolf's guitar work has stepped up and the riffs are cracking. A lot heavier and more metal than Blind Rage and there's even a lot here that sounds like later Megadeth style. Good stuff, might have to pick up a copy if JB stocks it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 08, 2017, 04:48:50 PM: Kade, let's just cut to the chase. You know you're going to get the new Accept, so just order it lol
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Post by: TAC on September 08, 2017, 04:49:38 PM: Might as well just Accept it.
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Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2017, 05:08:06 PM: I should be able to get a copy instore. I conceed defeat and accept my fate haha.

What did you guys think of it?
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Post by: TAC on September 08, 2017, 06:13:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 08, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
What did you guys think of it?

Quote from: TAC on August 23, 2017, 07:26:40 PM
Also, I am definitely enjoying the new Accept. Some very tasty licks on this.
This second life of Accept has been very satisfying. It doesn't have the range of 80's Accept, but these are solid releases. And by solid, I mean :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2017, 06:41:52 PM: :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 08, 2017, 06:54:50 PM: I also give it a :metal
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Post by: TAC on September 08, 2017, 06:56:13 PM: :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2017, 08:52:34 PM: I rated the Accept 85% which I think is about right - plenty of strong tracks with 2 or 3 standouts and 1 stuff up means it can't get much higher.

About the same score as that Fun track from Tim's roulette , so it must be good ;D To be fair it sounds like something out of the 50's or 60's and trying to appeal to the host's childhood is often smart roulette-ing . :)

As far as 2017 goes I am becoming more positive by the day at the moment. I am finally getting through some of the albums that I set aside earlier in the year to "check out later" and I actually unearthed a whole lot of pretty cool (and very obscure) stuff I had forgotten about. It's going to take some time to get through it all but there might be a pretty strong Top 20 or 30 in amongst them.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 09, 2017, 07:57:43 AM: I gave it a first proper listen this morning and I also give it a :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on September 09, 2017, 06:11:12 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2017, 08:52:34 PM
I rated the Accept 85% which I think is about right - plenty of strong tracks with 2 or 3 standouts and 1 stuff up means it can't get much higher.

About the same score as that Fun track from Tim's roulette , so it must be good ;D
:lol

C'mon man, it's not like that.

Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2017, 08:52:34 PM
To be fair it sounds like something out of the 50's or 60's and trying to appeal to the host's childhood is often smart roulette-ing . :)

One kid in my roulette said he sent me some "dad-rock". :lol

Am I that fucking old?? :rollin
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Post by: Lowdz on September 10, 2017, 02:35:01 AM: He's being polite. Several of my peers are grandads :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2017, 04:24:20 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 09, 2017, 06:11:12 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2017, 08:52:34 PM
I rated the Accept 85% which I think is about right - plenty of strong tracks with 2 or 3 standouts and 1 stuff up means it can't get much higher.

About the same score as that Fun track from Tim's roulette , so it must be good ;D
:lol

C'mon man, it's not like that.

Quote from: bl5150 on September 08, 2017, 08:52:34 PM
To be fair it sounds like something out of the 50's or 60's and trying to appeal to the host's childhood is often smart roulette-ing . :)

One kid in my roulette said he sent me some "dad-rock". :lol

Am I that fucking old?? :rollin

Yes it is.
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Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2017, 04:25:05 AM: I picked up the Accept. Went to one JB and didn't have a copy in sight. Went to one a few km's down the road and it had 5! WTF?!
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2017, 07:00:43 PM: Listening to an advance of the new Nocturnal Rites...........I hate to say it Kade but I am really getting sick of this style of power metal. If you liked the new Pyramaze (which I thought was just okay) then this is more of the same.

Between these guys, Pyramaze, Thunderstone etc.........it's all becoming a blur. Muddy, bass heavy , compressed to hell with plodding riffs , big choruses that sound very familiar etc..........maybe it's just me but this is becoming like a heavy version of the Devecchio bubblegum factory.
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2017, 07:08:38 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 11, 2017, 07:00:43 PM
Listening to an advance of the new Nocturnal Rites...........I hate to say it Kade but I am really getting sick of this style of power metal. If you liked the new Pyramaze (which I thought was just okay) then this is more of the same.

Between these guys, Pyramaze, Thunderstone etc.........it's all becoming a blur. Muddy, bass heavy , compressed to hell with plodding riffs , big choruses that sound very familiar etc..........maybe it's just me but this is becoming like a heavy version of the Devecchio bubblegum factory.

Ouch man! haha. Yeah, I really liked the new Pyramaze, I thought like the one before it had the heaviness and the melodies with a slight edge, but I can see why you are saying what you're saying though.

Have we actually finally heard it all perhaps?
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2017, 07:15:42 PM: I am actually beginning to find some cool stuff out of 2017 but it's all from no name bands and/or archive releases. It's amazing the difference just a few half original riffs/melodies makes to me. I dunno - you would think after a lengthy break that a band like Nocturnal Rites could come up with something that sounds even the slightest bit different?

The sound is a big issue that makes it seem far worse than it is perhaps. There is zero texture , zero clarity of rhythm guitar sound, zero variation between songs in terms of sound (at least the Pyramaze had a soft piece where the guitars disappeared and all of a sudden there was some sound clarity) etc..........

I listened to Pyramaze and NR back to back (mistake) and I was over both albums half way through. On my normal song by song ratings the Pyramaze got around 80 and NR maybe high 70's but these are albums where (for me at least) the album is worth less than the sum of the parts as everything just blurs.
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2017, 07:23:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 11, 2017, 07:15:42 PM
I am actually beginning to find some cool stuff out of 2017 but it's all from no name bands and/or archive releases. It's amazing the difference just a few half original riffs/melodies makes to me. I dunno - you would think after a lengthy break that a band like Nocturnal Rites could come up with something that sounds even the slightest bit different?

The sound is a big issue that makes it seem far worse than it is perhaps. There is zero texture , zero clarity of rhythm guitar sound, zero variation between songs in terms of sound (at least the Pyramaze had a soft piece where the guitars disappeared and all of a sudden there was some sound clarity) etc..........

I listened to Pyramaze and NR back to back (mistake) and I was over both albums half way through. On my normal song by song ratings the Pyramaze got around 80 and NR maybe high 70's but these are albums where (for me at least) the album is worth less than the sum of the parts as everything just blurs.

I'm very interested in finding out down the track the gems from this year you have found. I simply don't have the time or care factor to go around looking, but I'm sure another podcast will do all the work for me. ;D :tup

It's strange, I thought the addition of Per Nilsson would alter their sound a little.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2017, 07:29:06 PM: I thought I would be able to forget a Best of 2017 show (or do it in 5 mins ) but maybe not ;D

As far as power metal goes (and I've never been a big fan) I thought the Firewind was far stronger than either the Pyramaze or Nocturnal Rites. At least it felt like they had a go at something half original - sounded better too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 11, 2017, 07:32:45 PM: Immortals was excellent, but I still liked Contingent better.

And I think at this point, Brent has heard it all. I'm going to sample about a dozen or so of the albums/bands that were posted in the PPUSA forum as their house music. They had a lot of bands I already knew/had (Mindmaze, Pyramaze, Firewind etc..), but about 20 that I didn't. That's going to be the limit of my new search until the best of 2017 podcast.

hint hint; nudge nudge; wink wink. ;) ;D
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Post by: TAC on September 11, 2017, 07:46:18 PM: Better be some Cellador on that best Of 2017 Podcast. TAC got screwed out of Seven Sisters last year! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2017, 07:53:00 PM: By the time your roulette's over the Cellador will be looking very appealing I imagine.
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Post by: TAC on September 11, 2017, 07:54:40 PM: It already is!

:neverusethis:
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2017, 07:55:12 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 11, 2017, 07:29:06 PM
I thought I would be able to forget a Best of 2017 show (or do it in 5 mins ) but maybe not ;D

As far as power metal goes (and I've never been a big fan) I thought the Firewind was far stronger than either the Pyramaze or Nocturnal Rites. At least it felt like they had a go at something half original - sounded better too.

I would definitely take the Firewind over the Pyramaze I think. Immortals just has something about it. Really strong, and yeah the band were trying something a little different. Very powerful album.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 12, 2017, 04:28:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 11, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
Better be some Cellador on that best Of 2017 Podcast. TAC got screwed out of Seven Sisters last year! ;D

Tried Cellador on your recommendation. It didn't do much for me.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 12, 2017, 06:02:49 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 11, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
Immortals was excellent, but I still liked Contingent better.

And I think at this point, Brent has heard it all. I'm going to sample about a dozen or so of the albums/bands that were posted in the PPUSA forum as their house music. They had a lot of bands I already knew/had (Mindmaze, Pyramaze, Firewind etc..), but about 20 that I didn't. That's going to be the limit of my new search until the best of 2017 podcast.

hint hint; nudge nudge; wink wink. ;) ;D

I did prefer the Pyramaze too. Not sounding good re the NR then.
But I know what you mean. These genres are stagnating.
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Post by: TAC on September 12, 2017, 10:54:11 AM: https://bravewords.com/news/clockwork-revolution-featuring-former-members-of-yngwie-malmsteen-s-rising-force-crimson-glory-and-kamelot-to-release-debut-album-next-week-heritage-music-video-posted

Sounds cool, right?

No it doesn't. This is garbage.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 12, 2017, 11:41:27 AM: Good god that was bad. I really could do better myself. :facepalm:
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2017, 04:00:27 PM: yikes
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Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2017, 05:41:25 AM: Yeah, that wasn't great. I do think an actual budget for some pro recording and production would really help it a lot though.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2017, 08:04:02 PM: I can't figure out what the go is with TAC Roulette V.2

Am I being Punk'd or is an intervention required?
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 15, 2017, 08:05:53 PM: I havent listened to any of the songs, but I doubt my ratings would be the same lol
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Post by: TAC on September 15, 2017, 08:08:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 15, 2017, 08:05:53 PM
I havent listened to any of the songs, but I doubt my ratings would be the same lol

Grading on a curve. If there is a track that is clearly better, it gets a 9. Lowest track gets in the 6's. Keeps everyone close.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 16, 2017, 04:57:09 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 15, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 15, 2017, 08:05:53 PM
I havent listened to any of the songs, but I doubt my ratings would be the same lol

Grading on a curve. If there is a track that is clearly better, it gets a 9. Lowest track gets in the 6's. Keeps everyone close.

You could also keep everyone close with a range of -2 to 1.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 16, 2017, 07:51:16 AM: I've figured out Tim's rating method (the Spinal Tap model)

(https://www.enterpriseirregulars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/suck-o-meter.jpg)

It's actually cool that you're enjoying some of this stuff way outside the comfort zone Tim. But after high ratings for that Steam Powered Giraffe ........... from here on in any criticism of Winger or wuss music is redundant , okay ? :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 16, 2017, 07:50:56 PM: I just checked out that Steam Powered Giraffe song.

I ummmmmmmm, well, ahhhhhhhhhh............man, that Saxon and Primal Fear are great bands hey guys?
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Post by: Lowdz on September 17, 2017, 04:35:07 AM: He'd be doing better if the theme was shitty Frontiers "projects" 😀
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Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2017, 04:42:49 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 16, 2017, 07:50:56 PM
I just checked out that Steam Powered Giraffe song.

I ummmmmmmm, well, ahhhhhhhhhh............man, that Saxon and Primal Fear are great bands hey guys?

:rollin

Quote from: bl5150 on September 15, 2017, 08:04:02 PM
I can't figure out what the go is with TAC Roulette V.2

Am I being Punk'd or is an intervention required?

To be totally honest, I think Tim is somewhat disappointed but making the most of it.

As I stated, I know quite a few of the bands being offered and a lot of them aren't bad, just not our style at all. It is stuff that can be somewhat apprecited but I doubt there'll be anything long term worthwhile. I predict Tim won't go back to anything that's been offered so far here.

A lot of the stuff I know I've never really gotten into. A lot of them was probably in my crazy cd buying days and found some different stuff in the clearance section that was just to get my fix. These sorts of bands can be appreciated but there's nothing substantial for the long haul, for the likes of us.

Quote from: TAC on September 15, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 15, 2017, 08:05:53 PM
I havent listened to any of the songs, but I doubt my ratings would be the same lol

Grading on a curve. If there is a track that is clearly better, it gets a 9. Lowest track gets in the 6's. Keeps everyone close.

So every Winger song is a 10 then by this? ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on September 17, 2017, 04:48:15 AM: I've checked out many of these bands as they're mentioned here a lot. Some of them are ok to listen to once but I'd never go back to them and can't get through an album.

I don't have the patience to work at enjoying something.
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Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2017, 04:49:29 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 17, 2017, 04:48:15 AM
I've checked out many of these bands as they're mentioned here a lot. Some of them are ok to listen to once but I'd never go back to them and can't get through an album.

I don't have the patience to work at enjoying something.

This is the biggest thing for me I think to get into some of these bands. As you say, listening to them once, they are nice enough but need time, repeats and attention to get the best out of them.
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Post by: TAC on September 17, 2017, 06:29:30 PM: This entire page! :rollin :rollin :rollin

:clap:

You guys rule! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2017, 06:23:50 AM: Geez, this new Sweet and Lynch is turning out to be boring and plain as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oUDbLsN7Bg
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2017, 08:39:56 AM: The first single from the new Sweet and Lynch was a scorcher, but I agree about this song- quite boring.
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Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2017, 04:27:58 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 22, 2017, 08:39:56 AM
The first single from the new Sweet and Lynch was a scorcher, but I agree about this song- quite boring.

I'll have to revisit. I don't remember liking any of them so far.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 23, 2017, 09:17:58 PM: Ben and Brent's first 2017 award....................album cover of the year is decided already.

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2017%20II/bob_kulick_skeletons.jpg)
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Post by: Lowdz on September 24, 2017, 02:33:25 AM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2017, 04:25:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 23, 2017, 09:17:58 PM
Ben and Brent's first 2017 award....................album cover of the year is decided already.

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2017%20II/bob_kulick_skeletons.jpg)

Any good?
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Post by: Lowdz on September 24, 2017, 04:44:28 AM: Been enjoying myself this morning - I clicked on a YouTube link for Jack Starr's Burning Starr and wasn't expecting much tbh. Really enjoyed it and it inspired me to plug in the new guitar and give it some hammer :metal

I always dismissed Jack Starr without listening to any. Great old school metal. The singer on the new stuff is pretty awesome.
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Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2017, 04:48:50 AM: I haven't heard anything from Jack Starr.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 24, 2017, 05:00:26 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 24, 2017, 04:44:28 AM

I always dismissed Jack Starr without listening to any. Great old school metal. The singer on the new stuff is pretty awesome.

Good album -I was actually expecting a bit more to be honest (based on my sampling) but I had heard the best tracks leading in. The singer is the current guy in Riot.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 24, 2017, 05:01:19 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 24, 2017, 04:25:42 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 23, 2017, 09:17:58 PM
Ben and Brent's first 2017 award....................album cover of the year is decided already.

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2017%20II/bob_kulick_skeletons.jpg)

Any good?

Haven't got around to listening yet - the cover put me off I think :lol
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Post by: TAC on September 24, 2017, 06:40:45 AM: Jack Starr rules people. I haven't heard his new album yet. And yes, that is Todd Michael Hall from Riot. Pumped for this album.
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Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2017, 05:46:15 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 24, 2017, 05:01:19 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 24, 2017, 04:25:42 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 23, 2017, 09:17:58 PM
Ben and Brent's first 2017 award....................album cover of the year is decided already.

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2017%20II/bob_kulick_skeletons.jpg)

Any good?

Haven't got around to listening yet - the cover put me off I think :lol

But, they are skeletons with different instruments in a closet with a hot chick with tats on the cover, and it's called, get this, skeletons in the closet. What's not to like?

Oh, and the guitar has a skull and crossbones on it, fucking metal!!!
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Post by: bl5150 on September 25, 2017, 05:56:18 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 25, 2017, 05:46:15 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 24, 2017, 05:01:19 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 24, 2017, 04:25:42 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 23, 2017, 09:17:58 PM
Ben and Brent's first 2017 award....................album cover of the year is decided already.

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2017%20II/bob_kulick_skeletons.jpg)

Any good?

Haven't got around to listening yet - the cover put me off I think :lol

But, they are skeletons with different instruments in a closet with a hot chick with tats on the cover, and it's called, get this, skeletons in the closet. What's not to like?

Oh, and the guitar has a skull and crossbones on it, fucking metal!!!

You missed Bob's ugly skull right between her tits with crossbones below :metal :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2017, 03:28:15 PM: :rollin Yeah, I sure fucking did. WTF?! hahaha.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on September 25, 2017, 03:55:10 PM: So what are your guys' opinions on all the "deluxe issue" treatments some of the classic hard rock and metal record are receiving (I realize what qualifies as classic hard rock and metal can vary)? I find them to be pretty spotty. I liked the price point New Jersey from Bon Jovi was at when I bought it. I think it was around 40 bucks, and the package was well worth it.

But then I remembered some of the Pink Floyd monster deluxe editions, and I just couldn't fathom spending the kind of money for those, and went with lesser editions.

I've ordered a few lately. Whitesnake '87 (which I got a notice was delayed until December) and Stone TEmple Pilots Core. Both of those seem like they'll be in the right wheelhouse, price-wise for what you get (although STP was pushing it at 58 bucks).

Some of it is frustrating however. For example, on the STP set, I have no use for the vinyl whatsoever. I have a turntable, I have no desire to play THAT record on vinyl. It was never on vinyl to begin with, so I get it. But it also isn't the type of record I'd sit there and listen to on a turntable (unlike say Pink Floyd). So, instead of the Core Super Deluxe costing 35 or 40 bucks, it is 58 bucks, I assume because of that vinyl. As an aside, if that vinyl has its own UPC code, and is in its own sleeve, I'll probably try and sell it to the used record/CD store to recoup some of my money.

And then there is Metallica...Master of Puppets looks amazing. And I'd love to hear all that material a few times. But I'm not spending that kind of money. I'll get the lesser edition with less material, but enough.

Anyway, general thoughts on all these deluxe editions. Are you finding them worth your time? My answer is tentatively YES, but I find myself really having to go through what they offer and making a tough call, as opposed to them all being at a reasonable price point to drop the cash.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 25, 2017, 04:06:02 PM: It depends on whether there is anything there I don't already have. I don't need the Hysteria one but I did buy the last deluxe set. I might get 1987ut haven't decided yet. There's not that much there I need tbh. With demos I would probably listen once - the videos are all on YouTube.
I bought Marillion's Misplaced Childhood signed by Fish mainly for the interview DVD.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2017, 04:24:47 PM: What exactly comes with the Whitesnake 1987 Deluxe edition. I couldn't tell from Amazon.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 25, 2017, 09:54:50 PM: I'm way too busy trying to find new things I like and really don't have the motivation or time to bother with deluxe editions of things I already have. In many cases I already have the rare additions etc....and I really don't spend much time on live albums/DVDs

No doubt I am missing out on some good stuff but there's only so much time in the day and it's already insufficient.

I will say that from what I have seen of the 1987 Whitesnake one it did seem to be relatively well priced.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2017, 10:40:05 PM: I use to be a sucker for these deluxe reissues no matter what, but I never bother anymore. I rarely see any value at all to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 26, 2017, 05:05:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 25, 2017, 10:40:05 PM
I use to be a sucker for these deluxe reissues no matter what, but I never bother anymore. I rarely see any value at all to be honest.

This.

There was a time when I wanted to have every little rehearsal room demo bit of my favorite bands but nowadays I don't really bother anymore because most of the time those tracks are demoe or b-sides for a reason. They aren't that good (imo) and I'm not really listening to them more than once.

Live bonus discs are nice but then I don't really need several versions of songs played live that don't really vary that much performancewise.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2017, 05:11:06 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 26, 2017, 05:05:08 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 25, 2017, 10:40:05 PM
I use to be a sucker for these deluxe reissues no matter what, but I never bother anymore. I rarely see any value at all to be honest.

This.

There was a time when I wanted to have every little rehearsal room demo bit of my favorite bands but nowadays I don't really bother anymore because most of the time those tracks are demoe or b-sides for a reason. They aren't that good (imo) and I'm not really listening to them more than once.

Live bonus discs are nice but then I don't really need several versions of songs played live that don't really vary that much performancewise.

Yep. Bonus material being easily accessible online doesn't help the cause to purchase these reissues either. As you said mate, if it was that bloody brilliant, it would have been released in the first place, well said.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2017, 07:41:32 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 25, 2017, 04:24:47 PM
What exactly comes with the Whitesnake 1987 Deluxe edition. I couldn't tell from Amazon.

WHITESNAKE - 1987 (30th Anniversary Remaster)

DELUXE 4 CD/ DVD ALBUM

RELEASE DATE DUE: 6TH OCTOBER 2017
CAT NO:
0190295785185

WARNER MUSIC DISTRIBUTION
TRACK LIST
Disc 1: Original album remastered (CD). Disc 2: Live performance from 'Snakeskin Boots' 1987-1988 world tour (CD). Disc 3: '87 Evolutions' - unreleased demos and rehearsals (CD). Disc 4: '87 Versions' - exclusive remixes, alternate versions and tracks from Japanese '1987 Versions' mini-album (CD). Disc 5: Music videos restored with 5.1 sound, documentary about the making of 1987 album, new video for 1988 version of 'Here I Go Again' and rare footage of live performances from 1987 tour (DVD).

Disc: 1

1. Still of the Night (2017 Remastered Version)

2. Give Me All Your Love (2017 Remastered Version)

3. Bad Boys (2017 Remastered Version)

4. Is This Love (2017 Remastered Version)

5. Here I Go Again 87 (2017 Remastered Version)

6. Straight for the Heart (2017 Remastered Version)

7. Looking for Love (2017 Remastered Version)

8. Children of the Night (2017 Remastered Version)

9. You're Gonna Break My Heart Again (2017 Remastered Version)

10. Crying in the Rain (2017 Remastered Version)

11. Don't Turn Away (2017 Remastered Version)

Disc: 2

1. Bad Boys / Children of the Night (Live)

2. Slide It In (Live)

3. Slow An' Easy (Live)

4. Here I Go Again (Live)

5. Guilty of Love (Live)

6. Is This Love (Live)

7. Love Ain't No Stranger (Live)

8. Guitar Solo (Adrian & Vivian) [Live]

9. Crying in the Rain (Live)

10. Still of the Night (Live)

11. Ain't No Love in the Heart of the City (Live)

12. Give Me All Your Love (Live)

Disc: 3

1. Still of the Night (87 Evolutions Version)

2. Give Me All Your Love (87 Evolutions Version)

3. Bad Boys (87 Evolutions Version)

4. Is This Love (87 Evolutions Version)

5. Straight for the Heart (87 Evolutions Version)

6. Looking for Love (87 Evolutions Version)

7. Children of the Night (87 Evolutions Version)

8. You're Gonna Break My Heart Again (87 Evolutions Version)

9. Crying in the Rain (87 Evolutions Version)

10. Don't Turn Away (87 Evolutions Version)

11. Crying in the Rain (Lil' Mountain Alternate Take) [Ruff Mix] [87 Evolutions Version]

Disc: 4

1. Still of the Night (2017 Remix)

2. Is This Love (2017 Remix)

3. Give Me All Your Love (2017 Remix)

4. Here I Go Again 87 (2017 Remix)

5. Standing In the Shadows (1987 Version)

6. Looking for Love (87 Versions Version)

7. You're Gonna Break My Heart Again (87 Versions Version)

8. Need Your Love So Bad (1987 Version)

9. Here I Go Again (Radio Mix)

10. Give Me All Your Love (Single Version)

Disc: 5

1. Still of the Night

2. Here I Go Again 87

3. Is This Love

4. Give Me All Your Love

5. Video Memories - The Making of the 1987 Album Documentary

6. Here I Go Again (Purplesnake Video Jam Version)

7. Crying in the Rain

8. Band Intros

9. Still of the Night
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 26, 2017, 07:43:56 AM: I bought that Whitesnake 87 deluxe version last year and I really like it.

On the main disc, it has 2 bonus songs Looking for Love and You're Going to Break My Heart Again. Why they didn't include those two songs on the original release is a head scratcher, they are two of my favorite tunes from Whitesnake. Then there is 4 live tracks too. The bonus dvd has the videos released from this album plus the the live tracks. So I definitely found this release worth it.

Other deluxe editions that I have that I really like are Operation Mindcrime, which has the main album along with a live cd of O:M and a dvd.

Priest has a deluxe edition of SFV and Defenders which are very cool. The SFV album has a DVD of their festival show which is fantastic .

Moving Pictures by Rush is a great deluxe edition too. No extra tracks but it sounds better than ever.

Black Sabbath has some of the best deluxe editions that I have. All the Dio albums have lots of bonus live songs. Others have demos and live tracks with Ray Gilen which is very cool to hear. Hopefully the remaining Tony Martin albums are reissued next year.

I bought the first three Dio deluxe editions which have tons of live songs and is completely worth it.

The one album I'm surprised hasn't seen the deluxe edition treatment is Images and Words.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2017, 07:52:19 AM: Those two Whitesnake songs were on the original European version I think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 26, 2017, 07:52:26 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 26, 2017, 07:43:56 AM

On the main disc, it has 2 bonus songs Looking for Love and You're Going to Break My Heart Again. Why they didn't include those two songs on the original release is a head scratcher, they are two of my favorite tunes from Whitesnake.

They were on the original Euro version back in the day. I never knew until much later either as we got the US version out here. I picked up those tracks on the Best Of Whitesnake.

There we have it - a "best of" that JJ is missing ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2017, 07:53:42 AM: Wow, ninja'd he maestro 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 26, 2017, 08:57:52 AM: I'm ok with 'deluxe' versions that have rare/unreleased live tracks, and a remaster. But, the demo and early/alternate arrangement stuff... that's crap. I haven't heard one instance where that kind of "extra" isn't easily skipable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on September 26, 2017, 09:52:35 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 26, 2017, 07:43:56 AM
I bought that Whitesnake 87 deluxe version last year and I really like it.

On the main disc, it has 2 bonus songs Looking for Love and You're Going to Break My Heart Again. Why they didn't include those two songs on the original release is a head scratcher, they are two of my favorite tunes from Whitesnake. Then there is 4 live tracks too. The bonus dvd has the videos released from this album plus the the live tracks. So I definitely found this release worth it.

Other deluxe editions that I have that I really like are Operation Mindcrime, which has the main album along with a live cd of O:M and a dvd.

Priest has a deluxe edition of SFV and Defenders which are very cool. The SFV album has a DVD of their festival show which is fantastic .

Moving Pictures by Rush is a great deluxe edition too. No extra tracks but it sounds better than ever.

Black Sabbath has some of the best deluxe editions that I have. All the Dio albums have lots of bonus live songs. Others have demos and live tracks with Ray Gilen which is very cool to hear. Hopefully the remaining Tony Martin albums are reissued next year.

I bought the first three Dio deluxe editions which have tons of live songs and is completely worth it.

The one album I'm surprised hasn't seen the deluxe edition treatment is Images and Words.

The Whitesnake deluxe was out in Europe last year? Wow, I thought the one coming out this year was the first version of it. I think it got pushed back to December here.

re: Mindcrime -- I think it should have been much more. Bringing Video Mindcrime to DVD was good, but they used the same redlined remaster from 2003. The live material was good too, and combined with the Empire deluxe, forms a complete show from the Building Empires tour. But I still think they missed out on Mindcrime. That record should have received a huge treatment.

re: Images and Words -- Obviously, most of us would love it, but I don't think it is feasible. It wasn't nearly as popular as most of the records we're talking about. And with Ytsejam Records, all the rare stuff is on the Images and Words release under that. I mean, sure, we could design a beautiful version, I'm sure. But its MP that has all that stuff most likely, and I don't see them spending the money and time to put out a 25 or 30 year I&W deluxe, sadly.

Overall, I hear folks regarding the deluxe versions and not bothering with them. But I've found them to be quite entertaining if the price is right. Marillion's Misplaced Childhood -- I never listened to them before buying the deluxe version. I watched the documentary first, then listened to the record. Great price for a beautiful package. And I wouldn't nearly have enjoyed it as much if it was simply me loading the tracks onto my iPod and listening. The deluxe version was an experience, and I really enjoyed it. So, I tend to enjoy these if the price is right.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on September 26, 2017, 10:30:36 AM: I really like the Megadeth Peace Sells 25th Anniversary remaster. I never buy the big, deluxe packages, but the 2 CD was nice. The album was remastered from the original recordings (not the 2005-ish re-release that Mustaine did) and the second disc was a live bootleg from that tour.

Haven't bought the Queensryche re-releases, since I already owned the 2003 versions. The live recordings would be nice to have.

I have the first two Pantera re-releases. The CFH one is killer, with tons of live stuff and the full album demos. The Vulgar one had a nice live DVD and a bonus track. Sadly, both albums are mastered way too hot and sound like crap compared to the originals. I'd like the FBD/Trendkill ones, but haven't shelled out for them since the remastering on the albums sucks.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2017, 10:38:59 AM: There was a 20th anniversary version of 1987. The 30th anniversary is due out next week. There is more stuff on the new one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 26, 2017, 11:13:15 AM: Yeah I checked and that's what I bought last year, the 20th anniversary of 1987.

4 discs for the 30th anniversary? What's in store for the 40th and 50th anniversary super extreme mega deluxe editions?

Brent- I have two "best of" Whitesnake albums lol. I've had those tracks before and knew they weren't on the US version, which they deserve to be. Great tunes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on September 26, 2017, 11:44:59 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 26, 2017, 10:38:59 AM
There was a 20th anniversary version of 1987. The 30th anniversary is due out next week. There is more stuff on the new one.

That's what I thought. But the Super Deluxe for the 30th has been delayed. I got a message it won't be released until Dec. 31. Sucks. Apparently the 2 CD version is coming out next week, but the Super Deluxe will be another couple of months. I canceled my order, and figure I'll re-order when it is time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 26, 2017, 02:33:33 PM: Quote from: Samsara on September 25, 2017, 03:55:10 PM
So what are your guys' opinions on all the "deluxe issue" treatments some of the classic hard rock and metal record are receiving

So the only way I would ever buy a reissue or a deluxe package is that if it contained an actual concert from the time period. Various live tracks, demos, etc....don't appeal to me.
I'm happy with all of the recordings that I have. I just can't see myself rebuying something I already have. I have zero interest in collecting vinyl. I have a couple hundred albums in my attic, because that's where they belong. Between work and family, I don't have time to relive the romantic days of old spinning records. It just doesn't fit.

I bought the JP SFV one because of the DVD.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2017, 04:28:48 PM: I'm hoping Marillion do the deluxe box for all the Fish albums. They would look great on the bookshelf.

There definitely needs to be something special for me to fork 🍴 up again for albums I probably already have 2-3 times, or more if we're talking Mindcrime and Empire. Mindcrime needs a 5:1 mix, surely.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 26, 2017, 05:42:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 26, 2017, 11:13:15 AM
Yeah I checked and that's what I bought last year, the 20th anniversary of 1987.

4 discs for the 30th anniversary? What's in store for the 40th and 50th anniversary super extreme mega deluxe editions?

Brent- I have two "best of" Whitesnake albums lol. I've had those tracks before and knew they weren't on the US version, which they deserve to be. Great tunes.

Sorry Jay to insult your bestofness ;D I obviously misinterpreted your post.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 26, 2017, 06:19:48 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 26, 2017, 05:42:23 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 26, 2017, 11:13:15 AM
Yeah I checked and that's what I bought last year, the 20th anniversary of 1987.

4 discs for the 30th anniversary? What's in store for the 40th and 50th anniversary super extreme mega deluxe editions?

Brent- I have two "best of" Whitesnake albums lol. I've had those tracks before and knew they weren't on the US version, which they deserve to be. Great tunes.

Sorry Jay to insult your bestofness ;D I obviously misinterpreted your post.

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2017, 05:52:20 AM: I was never a huge Whitesnake fan but 1987 is a no brainer. But I never knew that those two tracks weren't included on every release. Looking For Love is my fav song on the whole album by far.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 27, 2017, 11:03:10 AM: Brent, I tried to send you a PM, but it said your inbox was full...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 27, 2017, 11:07:42 AM: It's quite upsetting but I have had to delete that link to Steam Powered Giraffe that you sent me and now have some space.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 27, 2017, 11:11:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 27, 2017, 11:07:42 AM
It's quite upsetting but I have had to delete that link to Steam Powered Giraffe that you sent me and now have some space.

I can always email the link to you!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 27, 2017, 12:18:04 PM: Vinnie Vincent trailer for the Kiss Expo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQtY4V7dGQ
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 27, 2017, 03:16:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 24, 2017, 05:00:26 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 24, 2017, 04:44:28 AM

I always dismissed Jack Starr without listening to any. Great old school metal. The singer on the new stuff is pretty awesome.

Good album -I was actually expecting a bit more to be honest (based on my sampling) but I had heard the best tracks leading in. The singer is the current guy in Riot.

This is a really good album. Much better than his last one, especially production wise. I ended up buying this today after Spotifying it a couple of times. Came with an auto rip so I've been listening to it all afternoon. Loving it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 27, 2017, 03:31:39 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 27, 2017, 11:07:42 AM
It's quite upsetting but I have had to delete that link to Steam Powered Giraffe that you sent me and now have some space.

Brent whats your rating for the Steaming Giraffes?

I rate it a negative 4 billion.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 27, 2017, 03:55:36 PM: (https://collectionofawesome.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/rape.png)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 27, 2017, 05:13:53 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 27, 2017, 03:31:39 PM

Brent whats your rating for the Steaming Giraffes?

I rate it a negative 4 billion.

I was about as impressed as Tim's donkey.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 28, 2017, 05:14:26 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 27, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 27, 2017, 11:07:42 AM
It's quite upsetting but I have had to delete that link to Steam Powered Giraffe that you sent me and now have some space.

Brent whats your rating for the Steaming Giraffes?

I rate it a negative 4 billion.

mr.com just thinks your an asshole with that score.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 28, 2017, 02:50:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 27, 2017, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 24, 2017, 05:00:26 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 24, 2017, 04:44:28 AM

I always dismissed Jack Starr without listening to any. Great old school metal. The singer on the new stuff is pretty awesome.

Good album -I was actually expecting a bit more to be honest (based on my sampling) but I had heard the best tracks leading in. The singer is the current guy in Riot.

This is a really good album. Much better than his last one, especially production wise. I ended up buying this today after Spotifying it a couple of times. Came with an auto rip so I've been listening to it all afternoon. Loving it.

Yeah, I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 28, 2017, 07:00:12 PM: How the mighty...............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?31=&v=5XV1BZTkFqw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 28, 2017, 07:12:09 PM: WTF?? Is that Captain and Tennille?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 28, 2017, 07:16:50 PM: Haha...I was not expecting that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 28, 2017, 07:27:27 PM: Why on earth would anyone expect that?

At least we know what Brent is listening to.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 28, 2017, 07:44:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 28, 2017, 07:27:27 PM
Why on earth would anyone expect that?

At least we know what Brent is listening to.

Still better than what you're listening to :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 28, 2017, 07:48:01 PM: (https://cdn.head-fi.org/a/9935027.png)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 28, 2017, 07:51:33 PM: It's called walking right into it. :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2017, 05:35:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 28, 2017, 07:00:12 PM
How the mighty...............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?31=&v=5XV1BZTkFqw

This is a pretty good Britney Spears song.

Seriously though, this song coming from two people that call themselves guitarists?! They try to add a shitty solo to justify that obviously doesn't belong there. Richie doing anything for a bit of pussy. Love how the comments are disabled.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2017, 06:13:59 AM: New Almanac Brent!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkH2FdVOg-Y

Unfortunately I'm getting an error that my browser doesn't support any video formats. WTF? :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2017, 07:08:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2017, 06:13:59 AM
New Almanac Brent!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkH2FdVOg-Y

Unfortunately I'm getting an error that my browser doesn't support any video formats. WTF? :facepalm:

Hmm..............liked the music until the vocals came in. This is one example where the multi vocalist thing (and vocal efffects) just didn't work for me.

Still hopeful for the album though. Smolski always comes up with something good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 30, 2017, 09:37:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 28, 2017, 07:00:12 PM
How the mighty...............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?31=&v=5XV1BZTkFqw

I think Richie fooled everyon, me included, for years. Everyone thought he was the 'rock' in Bon Jovi but he's never done anything to justify that. His first solo album was pretty much a Bon Jovi record with him singing. His other solo stuff has been a snoozefest.
Great voice, average but melodic solos. Not much else.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 30, 2017, 04:16:52 PM: Saw Saxon last night. We did not stay for UFO..long story.
Will post pics tomorrow. Saw someone interesting in the crowd too.

Saxon was awesome. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 01, 2017, 11:12:12 AM: Awesome set by Saxon. I literally got chills during Power And The Glory. I'm glad they put Dogs Of War in the set. It's probably my favorite track from the Middle Ages era of Saxon.
Also, I've never really cared for I've Got To Rock (To Stay Alive), but it is a great live song.

Oh, and Nibs Carter :metal

(https://i.imgur.com/SffngRx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pQKQ2sb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/V6j6ZWQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JksCSD3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sYURXdr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TJaBL98.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xUQrVF5.jpg)

Oh, and I saw this guy there too.
(https://i.imgur.com/J7jmfoQ.jpg)

EDIT! Mebert just confirmed that that is John Arch standing next to Jim Matheos!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 01, 2017, 01:44:12 PM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 01, 2017, 02:18:00 PM: Nice.
Shame you had to miss UFO. Can't have been easy 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 01, 2017, 02:22:24 PM: I was fine. It just wasn't possible. Like I said, it's a long story. It would've been tougher to miss Saxon.

As much as I love UFO, their setlist blows. Saw them a few years ago, which was cool.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 02, 2017, 04:06:51 AM: Nice Tim. And haha, Arch and Matheos watching Saxon, good shit.

Speaking of Saxon, new album Thunderbolt coming in early 2018. These guy just don't slow down! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 02, 2017, 04:37:25 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 02, 2017, 04:06:51 AM
Nice Tim. And haha, Arch and Matheos watching Saxon, good shit.

Speaking of Saxon, new album Thunderbolt coming in early 2018. These guy just don't slow down! :metal

Maybe they should.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 02, 2017, 04:46:21 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 02, 2017, 04:37:25 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 02, 2017, 04:06:51 AM
Nice Tim. And haha, Arch and Matheos watching Saxon, good shit.

Speaking of Saxon, new album Thunderbolt coming in early 2018. These guy just don't slow down! :metal

Maybe they should.

Definitely not, the last one was brilliant. One of the best they have done especially post 2000.

Actually, all of their post 2000 stuff has been stellar. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 02, 2017, 05:06:25 AM: Maybe J Boy should go back to the Wuss Thread and leave the Hard Rock to people who know what they're talking about. :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 02, 2017, 08:52:56 AM: I can guarantee with 100 percent certainty, that the new Saxon, will in fact Rock!!! The odds are very good

I'm also confident that it will rate well above "solid"
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 02, 2017, 10:05:23 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 02, 2017, 05:06:25 AM
Maybe J Boy should go back to the Wuss Thread and leave the Hard Rock to people who know what they're talking about. :P

Yeah, well... the jerk store called and they're out of you.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 02, 2017, 05:38:35 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 02, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
I can guarantee with 100 percent certainty, that the new Saxon, will in fact Rock!!! The odds are very good

I'm also confident that it will rate well above "solid"

Gotta back this up with complete certainty.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2017, 06:23:46 AM: From what I have heard of this Soto/Portnoy thingy ;) .....................solid ;D The proggy sections mostly detract IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 05, 2017, 11:55:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2017, 06:23:46 AM
From what I have heard of this Soto/Portnoy thingy ;) .....................solid ;D The proggy sections mostly detract IMO.

Ignoring this for now... though I'm expecting to like it.

The DS/MP bullshit is putting me off. I like Bumblefoot though, love his YouTube stuff and his voice is hypnotic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 05, 2017, 12:04:30 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 05, 2017, 11:55:35 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2017, 06:23:46 AM
From what I have heard of this Soto/Portnoy thingy ;) .....................solid ;D The proggy sections mostly detract IMO.

Ignoring this for now... though I'm expecting to like it.

The DS/MP bullshit is putting me off. I like Bumblefoot though, love his YouTube stuff and his voice is hypnotic.

I'm purposefully ignoring all of that BS - especially here at DTF. I'll let the music speak for itself.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 05, 2017, 04:50:58 PM: I really liked the two tracks I heard from Sons of Apollo. I'm still on the fence whether or not I would get it, but I'm interested in hearing more and reading the reviews of the full album.

This is what Adrenaline Mob should have sounded like with Russell Allen when they came out at first.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2017, 04:57:16 PM: Some of it has a cool classic rock vibe etc.......but in the end I thought it was disappointing in the songwriting department. Will be interested to see the reaction from the metalheads.

And yeah I am 10x over Sherinian . I have met JSS a couple of times (couldn't meet a nicer guy) and I reckon he would be quite embarrassed/biting his tongue despite having to take it for the team.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2017, 05:42:31 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2017, 04:57:16 PM
Some of it has a cool classic rock vibe etc.......but in the end I thought it was disappointing in the songwriting department. Will be interested to see the reaction from the metalheads.

And yeah I am 10x over Sherinian . I have met JSS a couple of times (couldn't meet a nicer guy) and I reckon he would be quite embarrassed/biting his tongue despite having to take it for the team.

JSS does always come across as a super cool guy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 06, 2017, 09:08:48 PM: I will answer your question re the L.A. Guns in here Paul.

It is a good album and I think you would like it. It has that slight punk edge that you might associate with bands like Vain , that I know you really like.

It also has some personality. On a song by song basis (based on my enjoyment rather than critical analysis) I may not rate it too much higher than something like say the decent part of Revolution Saints but , unlike the RS album, it has that intangible something that sounds like a real band writing songs they give a shit about. The album has some personality and sounds like a real band . On the downside there are a couple of fillers and they do borrow from their back catalogue at times . On the whole though it's certainly worth a listen and will have far more staying power/growth in it than other "projects" that I may initially rate about the same.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 07, 2017, 08:08:12 AM: Will give it a shot. Not too concerned with them borrowing from their back catalogue as I'm not too familiar with it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 07, 2017, 05:09:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 06, 2017, 09:08:48 PM
I will answer your question re the L.A. Guns in here Paul.

On the downside there are a couple of fillers and they do borrow from their back catalogue at times .

A COUPLE??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 07, 2017, 05:56:52 PM: Have you heard it Tim or too busy with the TAC Filler Roulette?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 07, 2017, 06:27:08 PM: Don't bother me, it's the Acoustic Round. I have to concentrate.

LA Guns blows!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 07, 2017, 10:55:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 07, 2017, 06:27:08 PM
Don't bother me, it's the Acoustic Round. I have to concentrate.

Just fill up on Red Bull and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 08, 2017, 06:25:07 AM: I have never touched a Red Bull. I once tried a Sugar Free Monster Energy, and I thought my heart was going to explode!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2017, 09:46:39 AM: I don't think I've tried an energy drink either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2017, 04:36:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 08, 2017, 06:25:07 AM
I have never touched a Red Bull. I once tried a Sugar Free Monster Energy, and I thought my heart was going to explode!

I drink one Monster (sugar free) everyday 95% of the time. Doesn't even affect me now. I'll normally have a coffee later in the day and then around 4.30 I have my pre workout before I train. :lol

I got the Monster addiction when I was dieting yet working 12 hours a day. Energy, a tasty carbonated beverage with like 16 calories, sign me up. I discovered it a few years ago and unfortunately have never looked back.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 09, 2017, 07:57:37 AM: Brent, I see that you are playing that WASP remix Crimson Idol album. Whats the review?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2017, 08:01:40 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 09, 2017, 07:57:37 AM
Brent, I see that you are playing that WASP remix Crimson Idol album. Whats the review?

Half way through and I'd say it's worth a listen for those that love The Crimson Idol. It has a few missing songs and interludes that were intended for the original but just bear in mind that it's a re-record. Most of the classic songs are just missing that edge that the originals had and born again Christian Blackie has sanitised the language in Chainsaw Charlie which got a bit of an ::) from me.

Whoever did the Aldrich solo on Arena of Pleasure made a decent effort but nobody could play that properly other than Doug himself.

Enjoying the listen and the extra songs are fine , but overall it's not quite in the league of the original.

Better than Tater's re-records on FU ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 09, 2017, 10:26:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 09, 2017, 08:01:40 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 09, 2017, 07:57:37 AM
Brent, I see that you are playing that WASP remix Crimson Idol album. Whats the review?

Half way through and I'd say it's worth a listen for those that love The Crimson Idol. It has a few missing songs and interludes that were intended for the original but just bear in mind that it's a re-record. Most of the classic songs are just missing that edge that the originals had and born again Christian Blackie has sanitised the language in Chainsaw Charlie which got a bit of an ::) from me.

Whoever did the Aldrich solo on Arena of Pleasure made a decent effort but nobody could play that properly other than Doug himself.

Enjoying the listen and the extra songs are fine , but overall it's not quite in the league of the original.

Better than Tater's re-records on FU ;D

To be better than the FU rerecords is nothing to aim for.

Interesting. I'm always worried by rerecords as they never recapture the magic of the original. How can they?
Not happy with censoring the language but I'll be able to play it in the car when the kids are there 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 09, 2017, 12:16:10 PM: I thought that new WASP was out already. But amazon is saying to be released on Feb 2nd.

I can't say I've ever really been too impressed with many rerecorded songs/albums.

Those FU songs sounded terrible and so did that Dokken rerecorded album a few years back. I don't know why I bothered buying that Dokken, it was pure garbage and I just ended up launching it into a BFI bin.

The one that did stand out to me as very good was Twisted Sister, Still Hungry. Above average for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2017, 02:29:30 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 09, 2017, 08:01:40 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 09, 2017, 07:57:37 AM
Brent, I see that you are playing that WASP remix Crimson Idol album. Whats the review?

Half way through and I'd say it's worth a listen for those that love The Crimson Idol. It has a few missing songs and interludes that were intended for the original but just bear in mind that it's a re-record. Most of the classic songs are just missing that edge that the originals had and born again Christian Blackie has sanitised the language in Chainsaw Charlie which got a bit of an ::) from me.

Whoever did the Aldrich solo on Arena of Pleasure made a decent effort but nobody could play that properly other than Doug himself.

Enjoying the listen and the extra songs are fine , but overall it's not quite in the league of the original.

Better than Tater's re-records on FU ;D

I had no idea it was anywhere near getting released.

The bolded part might just ruin the whole thing for me, that's fucking ridiculous!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2017, 03:43:40 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2017, 02:29:30 PM

I had no idea it was anywhere near getting released.

The bolded part might just ruin the whole thing for me, that's fucking ridiculous!

That bolded part is correct ;D

I will say that for a re-record 25 years later it is well done. Fucking well done Blackie. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2017, 04:37:38 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 09, 2017, 03:43:40 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 09, 2017, 02:29:30 PM

I had no idea it was anywhere near getting released.

The bolded part might just ruin the whole thing for me, that's fucking ridiculous!

That bolded part is correct ;D

I will say that for a re-record 25 years later it is well done. Fucking well done Blackie. :metal

Good to hear. Knowing that he took the swearing out though leaves me feeling a bit dirty.

When is the official release date then?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2017, 04:41:45 PM: There does seem to be some confusion now that I have looked around. Hmm - reminds me of the last Armored Saint album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2017, 04:59:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 09, 2017, 04:41:45 PM
There does seem to be some confusion now that I have looked around. Hmm - reminds me of the last Armored Saint album.

This will be a purchase for me nevertheless.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 10, 2017, 10:37:59 AM: I'll be getting it mainly for the DVD, though it's likely to be cringeworthy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2017, 06:24:37 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 10, 2017, 10:37:59 AM
I'll be getting it mainly for the DVD, though it's likely to be cringeworthy.

I'm confident Blackie will put a decent effort in with it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2017, 05:12:34 AM: Getting that random 403 error message when trying to post in Tim's roulette thread. Must have been cause of the acoustic round.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2017, 12:36:12 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 10, 2017, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 10, 2017, 10:37:59 AM
I'll be getting it mainly for the DVD, though it's likely to be cringeworthy.

I'm confident Blackie will put a decent effort in with it.

Amazon is listing the DVD/blu ray for Feb 2nd. Just in time for my birthday (50... ugh) but too long to wait.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2017, 04:38:04 AM: From Frontiers' FB this morning

Quote
We are pleased to share the news that Nordic Union (Ronnie Atkins Official of Pretty Maids + Erik Martensson of Eclipse (Sweden), Ammunition, W.E.T music) will release their second album before the end of 2018!

Good thing they gave us a 14 month 'heads up'. I really liked the first one - moreso than Kade as I recall since I'm not *as* familiar with the entirety of their back-catalogs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2017, 04:50:42 AM: I think I was the one who said Nordic Union was a snooze. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2017, 04:56:12 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 12, 2017, 04:38:04 AM
From Frontiers' FB this morning

Quote
We are pleased to share the news that Nordic Union (Ronnie Atkins Official of Pretty Maids + Erik Martensson of Eclipse (Sweden), Ammunition, W.E.T music) will release their second album before the end of 2018!

Good thing they gave us a 14 month 'heads up'. I really liked the first one - moreso than Kade as I recall since I'm not *as* familiar with the entirety of their back-catalogs.

Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2017, 04:50:42 AM
I think I was the one who said Nordic Union was a snooze. ;D

I did find it pretty underwhelming, but it did grow on me quite a bit. Why the fuck announce this for the end of 2018!? Frontiers gearing up the pre orders early or something.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2017, 06:24:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2017, 04:50:42 AM
I think I was the one who said Nordic Union was a snooze. ;D

Yeah, well... your tastes suck. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2017, 12:08:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 12, 2017, 04:50:42 AM
I think I was the one who said Nordic Union was a snooze. ;D

I think I enjoyed it at the time. Not played it since and can't remember anything about it. Can't say I'm particularly excited at the thought of another.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2017, 03:03:19 PM: What got me was even though it did turn out to be an okay album, it's Martensson starting to run out of ideas and some of the rehashes from his other work here are laughable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2017, 03:15:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 12, 2017, 03:03:19 PM
What got me was even though it did turn out to be an okay album, it's Martensson starting to run out of ideas and some of the rehashes from his other work here are laughable.

That's Frontiers ' style!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2017, 04:07:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 12, 2017, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 12, 2017, 03:03:19 PM
What got me was even though it did turn out to be an okay album, it's Martensson starting to run out of ideas and some of the rehashes from his other work here are laughable.

That's Frontiers ' style!

That's the tagline at the bottom of their website, isn't it? "We've run out of ideas and rehash from older work"
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2017, 06:06:33 PM: Why are we talking about this here?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 12, 2017, 06:18:07 PM: Frontiers do hard rock and metal too Tim ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2017, 06:27:02 PM: Solid stuff??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2017, 07:33:08 PM: This is the kind of stuff that blurs the line between Frontiers 'we should expect more', and Classic Metal (Ronnie always-looking-like-I-gotta-pinch-a-loaf Atkins). Wasn't sure which thread to put this one in.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2017, 10:25:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2017, 06:27:02 PM
Solid stuff??

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/dc/c1/96/dcc1967600718fedbcd833187ce08f68--nostalgia-haircuts.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2017, 10:34:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 12, 2017, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 12, 2017, 06:27:02 PM
Solid stuff??

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/dc/c1/96/dcc1967600718fedbcd833187ce08f68--nostalgia-haircuts.jpg)

That'll surely make Tim "solid".
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2017, 05:06:30 AM: Makes me solid!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 13, 2017, 06:30:14 AM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 13, 2017, 07:33:48 AM: The Official Solid Rock / Solid Metal Music Discussion and Winger Memorabilia Thread
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2017, 09:27:42 AM: Sorry to derail the Tim’s fantasy thread, decent new song from Shakra

https://youtu.be/JZo0elIBJpY
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2017, 04:38:29 AM: I'm just gonna leave this here cause I've got no where else to put it. Might make a melodic death metal thread. New Omnium Gatherum;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5glljbcJPw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2017, 07:26:00 AM: Do not sully this thread with your growls nonsense 😖😖😖😖

😜

In all seriousness, it started off like any power metal band out there and then the growls started and sounded very out of place and camp. Turned it off after two lines of the vocals. Sorry Kade.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 15, 2017, 07:29:24 AM: only 5 seconds of vocals for me
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2017, 07:34:15 AM: Wolfking needs to start The Not For Pussies Growl Thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2017, 07:38:24 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2017, 07:34:15 AM
Wolfking needs to start The Not For Pussies Growl Thread.

Why, you don't have enough threads that you can mock? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2017, 07:42:01 AM: (https://troll.me/images2/judge-my-cousin-vinny/are-you-mocking-me-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2017, 07:46:31 AM: Anyone tried this? Got it playing on Spotify and enjoying it a lot. Big 80s metal vibe. Sounds like a band but there’s variety in the songs. Don’t know anything about them yet.
Worth a go.

(https://www.grande-rock.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/large/imagesnews/midnightsin-onelastride-cover2017.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2017, 08:30:07 AM: Totally 80's man.

Dokken/Bon Jovi....

Sounds decent enough.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2017, 09:25:33 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2017, 07:42:01 AM
(https://troll.me/images2/judge-my-cousin-vinny/are-you-mocking-me-thumb.jpg)

*This* movie you know. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2017, 09:28:56 AM: Not sure if you read my post in the chat thread about movies, but ironically enough, My Cousin Vinnie is one movie that I totally ignored, but was a favorites of my wife's. We've probably watched this movie a hundred times. It's funny, we can be with friends and then someone will say something, and my wife and I will go right in MCV mode. And they're like WTF?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2017, 10:18:19 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2017, 09:28:56 AM
Not sure if you read my post in the chat thread about movies, but ironically enough, My Cousin Vinnie is one movie that I totally ignored, but was a favorites of my wife's. We've probably watched this movie a hundred times. It's funny, we can be with friends and then someone will say something, and my wife and I will go right in MCV mode. And they're like WTF?

Any movie with Marissa Tomeii in it is always worth watching 😍
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2017, 10:28:01 AM: (https://i.imgur.com/5Jj05WV.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2017, 01:04:00 PM: New Starbreaker album in 2018. Fingers crossed for a great one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2017, 02:22:40 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 15, 2017, 01:04:00 PM
New Starbreaker album in 2018. Fingers crossed for a great one.

Fingers crossed they actually follow thru this time. They announced one for Jan of 2017 over a year ago, but then Magnus silently moved to do The Ferrymen instead.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2017, 03:20:34 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 15, 2017, 02:22:40 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 15, 2017, 01:04:00 PM
New Starbreaker album in 2018. Fingers crossed for a great one.

Fingers crossed they actually follow thru this time. They announced one for Jan of 2017 over a year ago, but then Magnus silently moved to do The Ferrymen instead.

Well TNT got back together and have now split again for the 5000th time.

Hence Starbreaker back as more of a priority from Harnell's side too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2017, 04:57:08 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 15, 2017, 02:22:40 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 15, 2017, 01:04:00 PM
New Starbreaker album in 2018. Fingers crossed for a great one.

Fingers crossed they actually follow thru this time. They announced one for Jan of 2017 over a year ago, but then Magnus silently moved to do The Ferrymen instead.

I heard the talk but must have missed that they did announce something. As Brent said, this should happen now Harnell has free time.

Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2017, 07:34:15 AM
Wolfking needs to start The Not For Pussies Growl Thread.

I'm thinking about it, and there will be no Tim's allowed.

Quote from: Lowdz on October 15, 2017, 07:26:00 AM
Do not sully this thread with your growls nonsense 😖😖😖😖

😜

In all seriousness, it started off like any power metal band out there and then the growls started and sounded very out of place and camp. Turned it off after two lines of the vocals. Sorry Kade.

You don't need to apologise, I didn't expect anyone to actually like it haha.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2017, 11:54:45 PM: Ben has a new favourite metal song folks . Surprised me big time but one of my all time faves too. When asked to rate it out of 10 he said "twenty"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fl7yNIPlGM
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 16, 2017, 04:23:56 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2017, 04:46:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2017, 11:54:45 PM
Ben has a new favourite metal song folks . Surprised me big time but one of my all time faves too. When asked to rate it out of 10 he said "twenty"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fl7yNIPlGM

Fuck yeah! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on October 16, 2017, 08:17:56 AM: Ben has the best taste on this forum!

:metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2017, 08:40:47 AM: Quote from: Podaar on October 16, 2017, 08:17:56 AM
Ben has the best taste on this forum!

:metal :metal

Hard to argue with that!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 16, 2017, 09:23:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2017, 04:46:08 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 15, 2017, 11:54:45 PM
Ben has a new favourite metal song folks . Surprised me big time but one of my all time faves too. When asked to rate it out of 10 he said "twenty"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fl7yNIPlGM

Fuck yeah! :hefdaddy

Good call young Ben :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 17, 2017, 09:09:17 AM: So The Sentinel will kick off the next podcast? :metal

Can't remember if I ever posted this pic but I was going through old pics on my phone.

(https://i.imgur.com/bNLbdLq.jpg)

This pic was taken 3 years ago.

This is David Hull. David played on the first two Joe Perry Project albums, which I love. He also toured in Ted Nugent's band back in the day, as well as filling in on a number of Aerosmith tours for Tom Hamilton.

One of the things he does now is play acoustically for various groups. This picture is actually taken where my wife works. It's an assisted living facility. My wife has hired him a number of times to come down and perform for the fogeys. He does sing alongs and that sort of thing.

Anyway, he was real cool. We talked about the Joe Perry days, mainly. I've Got The Rock n Rolls Again is a TAC Top 50 album. We talked a lot about the recording of that album.

About 10 years ago, in the same place, walking down the hall with my wife to have lunch, we ran into Steven Tyler, who was visiting an aunt and uncle.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 17, 2017, 09:11:49 AM: GREAT pic, Tim. Very cool.

I'm hoping for some updated pics with the Fates Warning guys in January when I get to see them twice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 17, 2017, 09:15:23 AM: Quote from: Samsara on October 17, 2017, 09:11:49 AM
GREAT pic, Tim. Very cool.

I'm hoping for some updated pics with the Fates Warning guys in January when I get to see them twice.

That'd be cool. Definitely post. I had to settle for an over the shoulder in selfie mode shot. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 18, 2017, 07:02:17 PM: First of all, I love Gary Moore.

Some interesting comments here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giw4-5hh9cw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 19, 2017, 06:04:34 AM: Cool Tim - I love Gary and Randy :metal :hefdaddy

Quote from: TAC on October 17, 2017, 09:09:17 AM
So The Sentinel will kick off the next podcast? :metal

No because another podcast has been in the can for a while. Just waiting for the TAC Steam Powered Roulette to finish and put you out of your misery ;D

I played The Sentinel on one of the very first podcasts. i LOVE that song :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 19, 2017, 12:55:49 PM: New Europe album streaming

https://www.planetrock.com/news/rock-news/exclusive-listen-to-europes-new-album-walk-the-earth-in-its-entirety/

I like it. Added to the buy list
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2017, 03:26:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 18, 2017, 07:02:17 PM
First of all, I love Gary Moore.

Some interesting comments here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giw4-5hh9cw

Both incredible guitar players.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 19, 2017, 06:37:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 19, 2017, 06:04:34 AM
Just waiting for the TAC Steam Powered Roulette to finish and put you out of your misery ;D
:lol

It'll be over tomorrow. Unless there's a tie..
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2017, 05:33:53 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 19, 2017, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 19, 2017, 06:04:34 AM
Just waiting for the TAC Steam Powered Roulette to finish and put you out of your misery ;D
:lol

It'll be over tomorrow. Unless there's a tie..

I hope there's a tie.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 20, 2017, 06:14:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2017, 06:23:46 AM
From what I have heard of this Soto/Portnoy thingy ;) .....................solid ;D The proggy sections mostly detract IMO.

Just read your comments on Sons of Apollo Kade.........I think we agree.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 20, 2017, 09:52:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2017, 05:33:53 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 19, 2017, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 19, 2017, 06:04:34 AM
Just waiting for the TAC Steam Powered Roulette to finish and put you out of your misery ;D
:lol

It'll be over tomorrow. Unless there's a tie..

I hope there's a tie.

:lol

Only one way to decide a tie. A Steamer Giraffe medley round
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2017, 10:01:41 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 20, 2017, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2017, 05:33:53 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 19, 2017, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 19, 2017, 06:04:34 AM
Just waiting for the TAC Steam Powered Roulette to finish and put you out of your misery ;D
:lol

It'll be over tomorrow. Unless there's a tie..

I hope there's a tie.

:lol

Only one way to decide a tie. A Steamer Giraffe medley round

It would be steamy alright.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 20, 2017, 10:09:49 AM: A major steamer
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 20, 2017, 11:35:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 20, 2017, 06:14:27 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2017, 06:23:46 AM
From what I have heard of this Soto/Portnoy thingy ;) .....................solid ;D The proggy sections mostly detract IMO.

Just read your comments on Sons of Apollo Kade.........I think we agree.

Early thoughts are it’s pretty damn good. First JSS thing I’ve heard in years I like. Bumble is a beast, MP is MP and Sherinian is awesome when he keeps his mouth shut.

Really liking it. Played it three times over today.Even Sheehan fits, which he often doesn’t.

Shame they talked it up as redefining prog metal or some bollocks like that as it’s a damn fine metal album with a shitload of shredding but doesn’t redefine anything.

Really conflicted now as I didn’t wan5 to give MP and Sherinian my money...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2017, 11:56:19 AM: For the most part, I enjoyed it. Until the last track, it was a good wank-fest, without being TOO wanky. Although, it sounds like Derek is living in Lined of the Sand - holy crap, give us a little bit more than that sound dude. Maybe learn to work an iPad or something. :lol

It'll get some replay value, but not a lot.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 20, 2017, 12:11:34 PM: I enjoyed the familiar sound of it. Like FII with better metal songs, but yeah, he overuses that sound. That’s wha5 happens when you do an MP project and bash it out in a few days - no time to experiment with sounds.

I’m always a sucker for that Eastern sound and they use it a bit too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2017, 12:35:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 20, 2017, 12:11:34 PM
I’m always a sucker for that Eastern sound and they use it a bit too.

Honestly, I am not.

Quote from: jingle.boy on October 20, 2017, 11:56:19 AM
For the most part, I enjoyed it. Until the last track, it was a good wank-fest, without being TOO wanky. Although, it sounds like Derek is living in Lined of the Sand - holy crap, give us a little bit more than that sound dude. Maybe learn to work an iPad or something. :lol

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2017, 01:52:38 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 20, 2017, 10:01:41 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 20, 2017, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 20, 2017, 05:33:53 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 19, 2017, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 19, 2017, 06:04:34 AM
Just waiting for the TAC Steam Powered Roulette to finish and put you out of your misery ;D
:lol

It'll be over tomorrow. Unless there's a tie..

I hope there's a tie.

:lol

Only one way to decide a tie. A Steamer Giraffe medley round

It would be steamy alright.

You guys! :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 20, 2017, 02:44:18 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 20, 2017, 12:35:04 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 20, 2017, 12:11:34 PM
I’m always a sucker for that Eastern sound and they use it a bit too.

Honestly, I am not.

It’s the Blackmore fan in me 🤘
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2017, 03:03:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 20, 2017, 06:14:27 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 05, 2017, 06:23:46 AM
From what I have heard of this Soto/Portnoy thingy ;) .....................solid ;D The proggy sections mostly detract IMO.

Just read your comments on Sons of Apollo Kade.........I think we agree.

I think I've only heard 4 tracks, but yeah, pretty ordinary so far. I will listen to the whole thing, but there's not much here I think that's worthwhile or interesting enough to keep spinning.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 21, 2017, 11:19:49 PM: Scorps have a ballad compilation coming out in November called............

#born to touch your feelings :rollin :facepalm:

I know that's a song title off Taken By Force but geez.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2017, 03:56:42 AM: Those crazy Germans huh? :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 22, 2017, 04:29:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 21, 2017, 11:19:49 PM
Scorps have a ballad compilation coming out in November called............

No way I'm paying for a 4-song EP compilation.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 04:34:49 AM: What the fuck is with bands these days doing ballad compilations. Which fuckwits would go out and pay money for a ballad compilation, for fucks sake. These are metal bands, Jesus.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 22, 2017, 04:41:03 AM: In an era where they've lost album sales like most bands have....
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 04:43:25 AM: Quote from: kingshmegland on October 22, 2017, 04:41:03 AM
In an era where they've lost album sales like most bands have....

Exactly. There simply seems no reason whatsoever for bands to release shit like this. Scorpions aren't the first and it seems to happen more and more. It's more insulting and pointless to the fans than a best of.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 04:53:52 AM: Man, Communic were a good, strong and heavy band but this new song is so damn thin and weak and lacks balls and power. So disappointing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykZxguD2ZeQ
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 04:55:59 AM: Off topic, for you guys that liked Triviums Silence in the Snow because of the fact there is no screaming, you should give the new one a go neverthelss. I'm not trying to mislead you, there is a lot of screaming, probably 50/50 clean and screaming but the songs are incredible and Matt and the band are at the top of their game. Blows Silence in the Snow out of the water. Stuff like Beyond Oblivion, Other Worlds and Endless Night are like supercharged Silence tracks but better. Others are more like their old stuff but everything has melody.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 22, 2017, 05:01:12 AM: Will do, cashew.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2017, 06:33:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 04:55:59 AM
Off topic, for you guys that liked Triviums Silence in the Snow because of the fact there is no screaming, you should give the new one a go neverthelss. I'm not trying to mislead you, there is a lot of screaming, probably 50/50 clean and screaming but the songs are incredible and Matt and the band are at the top of their game. Blows Silence in the Snow out of the water. Stuff like Beyond Oblivion, Other Worlds and Endless Night are like supercharged Silence tracks but better. Others are more like their old stuff but everything has melody.

I loved SitS. But 50% screams? Can’t say I’m gonna like it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2017, 12:13:45 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/legendary-celtic-frost-bassist-martin-eric-ain-passes-at-50

Wow. Fucking 50??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 03:47:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2017, 12:13:45 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/legendary-celtic-frost-bassist-martin-eric-ain-passes-at-50

Wow. Fucking 50??

Damn, 50. RIP.

Quote from: Lowdz on October 22, 2017, 06:33:35 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 04:55:59 AM
Off topic, for you guys that liked Triviums Silence in the Snow because of the fact there is no screaming, you should give the new one a go neverthelss. I'm not trying to mislead you, there is a lot of screaming, probably 50/50 clean and screaming but the songs are incredible and Matt and the band are at the top of their game. Blows Silence in the Snow out of the water. Stuff like Beyond Oblivion, Other Worlds and Endless Night are like supercharged Silence tracks but better. Others are more like their old stuff but everything has melody.

I loved SitS. But 50% screams? Can’t say I’m gonna like it.

Probably not, but at least give it a go if you liked Silence.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2017, 03:54:57 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 03:47:01 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2017, 12:13:45 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/legendary-celtic-frost-bassist-martin-eric-ain-passes-at-50

Wow. Fucking 50??

Damn, 50. RIP.

Quote from: Lowdz on October 22, 2017, 06:33:35 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 04:55:59 AM
Off topic, for you guys that liked Triviums Silence in the Snow because of the fact there is no screaming, you should give the new one a go neverthelss. I'm not trying to mislead you, there is a lot of screaming, probably 50/50 clean and screaming but the songs are incredible and Matt and the band are at the top of their game. Blows Silence in the Snow out of the water. Stuff like Beyond Oblivion, Other Worlds and Endless Night are like supercharged Silence tracks but better. Others are more like their old stuff but everything has melody.

I loved SitS. But 50% screams? Can’t say I’m gonna like it.

Probably not, but at least give it a go if you liked Silence.

Two songs in and although the songs are ok, the blast beats are killing me more than the screaming. Hate blast beats.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 22, 2017, 04:29:14 PM: Yeah...........screams and blast beats pretty much rules me out too :lol

Hopefully the pretty hefty break in proceedings has whet the appetite for a new podcast - the last one was only 4 weeks after the prior show and I think perhaps resulted in less interest (aside from Kade's rave reviews of Elegy :tup ). I am pretty sure that Tim is ready to listen to something decent anyway :lol

Just had a listen myself and it sounds reasonably cohesive for a show put together in bite size pieces over a period of 4 months.

Link below (and in OP as usual):

https://yadi.sk/d/psG_0fIs3N2G3n

This show is a bit of a jumbo edition and will be the last for the year. I am putting everything I have into getting myself across all the best rare gems of 2017 and will base the next show around the Best of 2017. I must admit I am craving a return to listening to the classics more in 2018 and sampling things I have already identified as quality , so I may even give new releases a bit of a break in 2018.

The new show is made up of two parts:

- 2 hrs of mostly metal with no particular theme

- an alphabetical rundown of the the best in hard rock rarities (and more than a few classics) from bands starting with the letters U-Z. I jumped to the other end of the alphabet just because :lol .

I will post a link to the tracklist soon. I did note some feedback after my DTF hiatus that the last show was on the quiet side with the volume and I believe I have sorted that out. It's a matter of compensating for an annoying fault with the software as I adjust each track.

As per usual any feedback is very welcome and is basically what keeps this going. Not too many podcasts are produced for an audience of half a dozen regulars and so it's your thoughts and hopefully enjoyment that keeps us working towards the next one. :) I am hoping that all/most will find something cool they were not already aware of.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2017, 04:35:40 PM: Will jump on that tomorrow. Nice one Shane 😀

Got to about 5 songs in to the Trivium and I swear there were blast beats in every song. Some good stuff in there but I don’t feel I need to go any further for some good melodic bits amongst the blast beats and screaming.

If it was just th3 screaming I could have lived with it I think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2017, 04:48:21 PM: Looking forward to the show Brent.

All good with the Trivium guys, I kind of knew you wouldn't dig it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 22, 2017, 04:58:09 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 22, 2017, 04:35:40 PM
Will jump on that tomorrow. Nice one Shane 😀

Hopefully it's not ordinary ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 22, 2017, 05:23:53 PM: *downloading*

Hey Paul... thanks for taking one for the team. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2017, 06:34:53 PM: Downloaded and on my iPod.

Brent, what made you pick Belly Of The Beast? Didn't think you really cared for Anthrax.

Loved your lead in to Blackmore. Love old memories like that.

The vocals killed Blue Murder for me. Not that the songs were that great to begin with, but they never stood a chance with Sykes singing them.
Oh, and Cozy Powell!! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 23, 2017, 12:23:55 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2017, 06:34:53 PM
Downloaded and on my iPod.

Brent, what made you pick Belly Of The Beast? Didn't think you really cared for Anthrax.

Spreading The Disease got an HM in my Top 50 - big fan of that album but just bits and pieces from elsewhere. Always enjoyed Belly of The Beast and Time from PoT. And.........I do from time to time play things that I am not raving about if I know some of you guys like it.

PS the new Marty Friedman is half okay and half crap - even some blast beats in there for you Paul :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2017, 05:12:13 AM: I had a listen to the Marty Friedman too. Not bad, but not as good as the last one which I really liked.

Had a listen to the TMac too. Very short, but a bit more accessable then the last couple but it's just good to know he's still able to make music.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 23, 2017, 06:19:20 AM: https://bravewords.com/news/legendary-ac-dc-producer-george-young-dead-at-70
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Post by: Bolsters on October 23, 2017, 06:57:53 AM: :-\
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 23, 2017, 10:23:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 23, 2017, 12:23:55 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2017, 06:34:53 PM
Downloaded and on my iPod.

Brent, what made you pick Belly Of The Beast? Didn't think you really cared for Anthrax.

Spreading The Disease got an HM in my Top 50 - big fan of that album but just bits and pieces from elsewhere. Always enjoyed Belly of The Beast and Time from PoT. And.........I do from time to time play things that I am not raving about if I know some of you guys like it.

PS the new Marty Friedman is half okay and half crap - even some blast beats in there for you Paul :D

Yeah, the Friedman didn’t do anything for me. I prefer his stuff when it’s quiet and laid back.

And happy to take one for the team occasionally but you’re next.

Blast beats 😖🤢
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 23, 2017, 10:36:46 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 23, 2017, 10:23:38 AM
And happy to take one for the team occasionally but you’re next.

Blast beats 😖🤢

Fair is fair.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2017, 03:25:31 PM: Haha, might make a blast beats thread just for Paul! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 23, 2017, 03:44:14 PM: What did you think of the Nocturnal Rites , Paul? I found it very "by the numbers".
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2017, 03:58:48 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 23, 2017, 03:44:14 PM
What did you think of the Nocturnal Rites , Paul? I found it very "by the numbers".

I know you didn't ask me but I'm gonna give you my opinion anyway. ;D

I've only listened to it twice all the way through and first thing I must congratulate the band on is even after a 10 year hiatus, they are able to come back and basically reproduce the exact same album again. Some of the melodies and what's going on here are directly lifted from the 8th Sin and it's quite frankly amazing how similar it is to the 8th Sin.

I agree with what you said earlier from memory, everything just sounds the same and very safe. No variety at all in any of the songs, and even if they are trying to change things up, it still sounds the same. The melodies mostly are top notch as are the performances and the welcome addition of Per Nilsson adds some real class in the lead section. Nils was a brilliant guitarist and perfect for the band but Per adds a different sort of class. He's probably the highlight of the album for me with some of these solos. Going back to the melodies though, there are some brilliant ones but some real awkward ones too. The melodies I think on The Ghost Inside and This is the End (?) I think it's called just don't seem right. But that's something that will probably grow into with repeated listens.

There's really nothing not to like here, and it's an enjoyable album but it lacks real substance and is something I find hard to sink my teeth into. This will probably change with some more listens and I'll probably grow to really like it just like the last couple but yeah, the band aren't really challenging themselves here. And it's something that doesn't make you want to play it again over and over.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 23, 2017, 04:10:46 PM: :iagree:

Loved it on first listen; enjoyed it immensely on second; by the third I was feeling it was fairly ordinary. A very "solid" ordinary, but still lacking some je ne sai quois
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2017, 05:11:53 AM: So, Judas Priests new album released early 2018 will be called Firepower. IMO, that's a bloody great old school style Priest album title, love it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 24, 2017, 06:54:44 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2017, 06:33:35 PM: No idea where to put this but I'll post this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPGMG42pRE

Total Mission From 'Arry moment at 4:14.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 25, 2017, 03:08:02 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 23, 2017, 04:10:46 PM
:iagree:

Loved it on first listen; enjoyed it immensely on second; by the third I was feeling it was fairly ordinary. A very "solid" ordinary, but still lacking some je ne sai quois

This.
Solos are great. It’s ok. Not in any rush to play it again in a hurry. The 7 string sound is so samey throughout and I just don’t like the sound. But it’s good to have them back.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2017, 04:37:44 PM: Speaking of things I won't be rushing back to.............just listening to the new Steelheart. It's had some good reviews around the place but I am not getting it. The ballads are clearly the best tracks.
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Post by: TAC on October 25, 2017, 05:07:56 PM: Steelheart? Who's in the wrong thread now?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2017, 06:21:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2017, 05:07:56 PM
Steelheart? Who's in the wrong thread now?

Most would consider them hard rock I am guessing.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2017, 07:42:47 PM: Never really heard much from them myself.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 25, 2017, 08:25:20 PM: The whole discussion of what bands are hard rock as compared to heavy metal or just classic rock, or just rock or hair metal or power metal or progressive metal is always interesting to me.

I guess its all subjective but as long as it passes the Jason test, its guaranteed to rock!

For example, I've heard Rush classified as pretty much everything. Same with Queensryche. I guess I would classify Steelheart as hard rock and I thought they were ok, but I liked the singer better in Steel Dragon!
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 25, 2017, 08:51:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 25, 2017, 04:37:44 PM
Speaking of things I won't be rushing back to.............just listening to the new Steelheart. It's had some good reviews around the place but I am not getting it. The ballads are clearly the best tracks.

I was considering sampling this one, but I'll just give Brent the 'thanks for taking one for the team' treatment.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2017, 01:46:16 AM: I liked the songs they released. Although the sound was a bit too ‘modern ‘ (well late 90early 00s ) for me. Will give it a go.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2017, 04:59:36 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 25, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
I guess its all subjective but as long as it passes the Jason test, its guaranteed to rock!

This is all that needs to be said. :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2017, 07:15:20 AM: Ok... got almost 3 hrs of the podcast in, and here are my thoughts.

Anthrax - Never listened to Anthrax in the day. I very much appreciated this tune ... I appreciated the reminder of why I didn't listen to these guys back in the day. Well, at least there's nowhere to go but up from here!
Testament .... never listened to Testament in the day. This was a little more enjoyable.
Priest .... man I need to go back and discover these guys. Though, it seems a lot of what I do end up playing is either hit, or miss. This was a 'hit' (as was The Sentinel)
Nightcrawler ... couple of very nice tunes!
Primal Fear .... :metal
Accept ... another act just outside of my comfort zone back in the day, and I just don't have it in me to go and re-discover them. Good stuff though.
Battle Beast ... pretty cool, though nothing I haven't heard
The Ferrymen... Top 20 album of the year for me so far. Which *is* saying something since I've bought/Spotify saved about 50, and sampled another 50 or so.
Leather Heart - Paul just put me on to this album, which was Tony-the-Tiger GREAT!
Nautiluz ... totally digging this tune. Very big Edguy vibe I'm getting here.
Pretty Maids... awesome (as should be expected)
Annihilator... this rocked hard.
Instrumental was VERY nice. Lots of different things going on here.
Powermad ... certainly passes the "Jason test".
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 07:25:51 AM: Cool Chad - and Anthrax doesn't surprise me :lol

Looking forward to seeing if you get a few good rare ones out of the U-Z's
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 11:02:24 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2017, 04:59:36 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 25, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
I guess its all subjective but as long as it passes the Jason test, its guaranteed to rock!

This is all that needs to be said. :metal

:metal :metal

Quote from: bl5150 on October 25, 2017, 06:21:22 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2017, 05:07:56 PM
Steelheart? Who's in the wrong thread now?

Most would consider them hard rock I am guessing.

I've never heard a lick from them. I see the band name and cringe.

Quote from: jingle.boy on October 26, 2017, 07:15:20 AM
Anthrax - Never listened to Anthrax in the day. I very much appreciated this tune ... I appreciated the reminder of why I didn't listen to these guys back in the day. Well, at least there's nowhere to go but up from here!
Persistence Of Time was a great album. Belly Of The Beast is probably the worst song on it.

As for the podcast, I'm only up through Primal Fear. Yes, the Nightcrawler tracks were cool. Musically and vocally, the ."..LA" song rocked.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2017, 03:04:10 PM: I will hopefully find some time this weekend to get into this podcast. But what Chad listed, seems like a massive music win!
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 03:33:18 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 11:02:24 AM

I've never heard a lick from them. I see the band name and cringe.

I think I will run with the Jason Test rather than whether the name bugs you without you listening to it :lol Where was the dodgy name rule in your roulette? ;D

Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 11:02:24 AM
Persistence Of Time was a great album. Belly Of The Beast is probably the worst song on it.

I'm the opposite - good song (albeit too long) on an okay album for mine.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:38:29 PM: Did Steelheart pass the Jason test?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 03:42:06 PM: If you don't know Steelheart Tim you might know this...........

https://youtu.be/00DkPyT2LiE?t=76

That's the guy (and original song was) from Steelheart. He had one of the biggest vocal ranges in rock/metal.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2017, 03:42:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:38:29 PM
Did Steelheart pass the Jason test?

It did, but not by alot. I only heard their debut record and its "solid"
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:44:01 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 26, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:38:29 PM
Did Steelheart pass the Jason test?

It did, but not by alot. I only heard their debut record and its "solid"

Is it a false positive?

Quote from: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 03:42:06 PM
If you don't know Steelheart Tim you might know this...........

https://youtu.be/00DkPyT2LiE?t=76

That's the guy (and original song was) from Steelheart. He had one of the biggest vocal ranges in rock/metal.

He looks just like Mark Wahlberg.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 03:47:18 PM: I need a break :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2017, 03:48:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:44:01 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 26, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:38:29 PM
Did Steelheart pass the Jason test?

It did, but not by alot. I only heard their debut record and its "solid"

Is it a false positive?

Quote from: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 03:42:06 PM
If you don't know Steelheart Tim you might know this...........

https://youtu.be/00DkPyT2LiE?t=76

That's the guy (and original song was) from Steelheart. He had one of the biggest vocal ranges in rock/metal.

He looks just like Mark Wahlberg.

It's more of a true negative.

The over the top falsetto vocals never really did much for me. I remember thinking the debut from Vinnie Vincent Invasion was just too much. Steelheart wasn't to that extreme, but still nothing that I really want to listen to that much.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:49:42 PM: So I did a quick Spotify search on Steelheart. I recognize I'll Never Let You Go. That's the Angel Eyes song. That song blows. But yeah, that dude has some pipes.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2017, 03:57:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:49:42 PM
So I did a quick Spotify search on Steelheart. I recognize I'll Never Let You Go. That's the Angel Eyes song. That song blows. But yeah, that dude has some pipes.

I would love to see the track listing with the worst from Tim.

"The best of song blows"
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 04:08:18 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 26, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:49:42 PM
So I did a quick Spotify search on Steelheart. I recognize I'll Never Let You Go. That's the Angel Eyes song. That song blows. But yeah, that dude has some pipes.

I would love to see the track listing with the worst from Tim.

"The best of song blows"

It would be an awesome album :lol

We could do a double album - the Blows disc (careful) and the Sucks disc (even more careful :lol )

I agree that the vocals of guys like Mil from Steelheart , Slaughter , Fleischman etc......are very love/hate. What makes them amazing is that a lot of the real high stuff is NOT falsetto.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2017, 04:10:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:44:01 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 26, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 03:38:29 PM
Did Steelheart pass the Jason test?

It did, but not by alot. I only heard their debut record and its "solid"

Is it a false positive?

Quote from: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 03:42:06 PM
If you don't know Steelheart Tim you might know this...........

https://youtu.be/00DkPyT2LiE?t=76

That's the guy (and original song was) from Steelheart. He had one of the biggest vocal ranges in rock/metal.

He looks just like Mark Wahlberg.

Is this suppose to be funny Tim?
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 05:28:46 PM: What? You don't think that's funny? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 06:00:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 05:28:46 PM
What? You don't think that's funny? :lol

You should be concerned that some around here are beginning to doubt whether your old fogey jokes are jokes or not :lol
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Post by: ozzy554 on October 26, 2017, 06:21:00 PM: I just saw some recent clips of Yngwie Malmsteen live and my god it was terrible.

First of all 95% percent of the stage belongs to Yngwie. The rest of the band is shoved into the far left of the stage. I guess he needs the extra room for his massive ego and fake amps. Even the biggest solo artists at least share the stage with the band, He's literally a few steps away from putting the entire band off stage behind a curtain.

The lead singing duties are shared between Yngwie himself and the keyboardist. The keyboardist isn't the greatest vocalist in the world but I guess it's better than Yngwie trying to sing Ill See the Light tonight himself.

Yngwie was also very sloppy at times. Like he's too busy prancing around the stage like a goofball trying to look cool rather than play correctly. When you're gimmick as a musician is being a really good guitar player maybe you should focus on that.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 06:37:38 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 05:28:46 PM
What? You don't think that's funny? :lol

You should be concerned that some around here are beginning to doubt whether your old fogey jokes are jokes or not :lol

Old Fogey Jokes?? :lol

It was either that or.."Hey that looks just like the girl on Friends.."
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 06:41:36 PM: Hi Ozzy - yes , it is a shame that Yngwie has become a parody of himself. He was always an asshole but at least there was some substance to his music in the early days (a number of classic albums) and there was at least some attempt to pretend it was a band on stage...........at times :lol

Might go play the debut and Marching Out now - those albums take me back in a big way.

I haven't bought a Malmsteen album since Magnum Opus :-\
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 06:44:24 PM: Last one I bought was Perpetual Flame, which I actually liked.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2017, 06:50:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2017, 06:44:24 PM
Last one I bought was Perpetual Flame, which I actually liked.

Thats a really good album.

But the debut and Marching Out are the defining Yngwie albums that I've heard. The one thing that was weird is that the first time I ever heard Yngwie was on on VH1 with the video "I'll See the Light Tonight" and was floored by it. But then soon realized that it was a different singer on the video than the song. So I'm assuming JSS was canned even before Marching Out was released?

And in the video, Boals looks very similar to Quentin Tarantino
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 07:06:49 PM: I saw that tour and it was Mark Boals on stage.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2017, 07:08:47 PM: Yngwie was probably already thinking how he can fire Boals during the Marching Out tour.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 07:10:57 PM: The funny thing is, I thought for years that that was Jeff Scott Soto. :lol

I just assumed that was him. I only had that epiphany a couple of years ago.
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Post by: ozzy554 on October 26, 2017, 07:39:11 PM: It's a shame that he drove Ripper Owens away. On paper he's a perfect fit for him. As much as I like Ripper he kinda lacks in the stage presence department, so Yngwie could easily still act like a frontman while still actually having a singer lol
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 07:50:22 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on October 26, 2017, 07:39:11 PM
It's a shame that he drove Ripper Owens away. On paper he's a perfect fit for him. As much as I like Ripper he kinda lacks in the stage presence department, so Yngwie could easily still act like a frontman while still actually having a singer lol

So, like it's always been? ;D
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2017, 08:22:34 PM: The decline of Yngwie is indeed sad. It's unreal how he can be such an egotistical asshole.

The last one I bought was Relentless with Ripper. I kept buying them and trying to tell myself he's still going just as good as he use to, but I came to my senses and realised he is just turned to shit.

I actually did pick up the last live CD/DVD but I regretted it, it sucks.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 08:37:33 PM: My God :lol

Funny we are speaking of Malmsteen as I just put on a new album from a guy called Sammy Berrell who is not only a Malmsteen wannabe but it has Edman and Vescera on it.

Just played a song called Midnight Flyer (can't find it on YT but it's on Spotify) and it is a total ripoff of another song - Teaser I think.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2017, 08:39:46 PM: Taking another one for the team, Brent. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2017, 08:45:17 PM: Yep.........seems I am.

I am just surprised that Edman in particular would be a part of it. I know Malmsteen ripped him off financially or something but I'm not sure that rehashing songs on a supposedly original album with a Malmsteen impersonator is achieving much.

Anyway - better than any of Malmsteen's recent albums :lol
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Post by: Big Hath on October 27, 2017, 11:07:44 AM: a little over 3 hours and 35 or so tracks into the podcast so far. Awesome metal section!

Unruly Child is obviously great.

Also enjoyed that Dave Uhrich track.

Thought the Valentine track was excellent.

Chad, saw your last.fm note about scrobbling the tracks and responded there.
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Post by: Podaar on October 27, 2017, 11:40:32 AM: I've got some time on my hands today, so I've downloaded the podcast!

(https://assets-auto.rbl.ms/06d425ce59929aa0118270310a850f1a95672ac3d646f2ce960e83d3a02c2c81)
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2017, 11:42:41 AM: You got quite a tan cleaning your car the other day.
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Post by: Podaar on October 27, 2017, 11:44:58 AM: :lol

That was Chad, silly.
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2017, 11:50:04 AM: :facepalm:
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2017, 03:32:46 PM: To echo what Ozzy554 said about Yngwie, here's a clip of his show the other night in Worcester.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Znt-rEwViw

Wow, he wasn't kidding. The band is parked in the corner. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2017, 04:25:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 03:32:46 PM
To echo what Ozzy554 said about Yngwie, here's a clip of his show the other night in Worcester.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Znt-rEwViw

Wow, he wasn't kidding. The band is parked in the corner. :lol

Hmm....it is odd, but I don't have a big problem with it, it's really just the bass player moved to the other side, the keyboard player and drummer would practically be in the same spot no matter what. Love him or hate him, he's still a master of the instrument IMO.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 27, 2017, 05:02:33 PM: After 30 odd years of hearing the same runs and arpeggios I’m very over it. I still love those first few albums but haven’t bought anything by him since Facing The Animal. I wouldn’t stay to watch if he was playing in my living room...

He’s got to be joking with the wall of Marshall’s though...ManOwaR will accept the challenge 🤘
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2017, 05:09:42 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2017, 05:02:33 PM
After 30 odd years of hearing the same runs and arpeggios I’m very over it. I still love those first few albums but haven’t bought anything by him since Facing The Animal. I wouldn’t stay to watch if he was playing in my living room...

He’s got to be joking with the wall of Marshall’s though...ManOwaR will accept the challenge

I'm basically the same. All the extra little improvs he does ruin the melodies of his old songs too. Just totally lost the plot.

Quote from: Big Hath on October 27, 2017, 11:07:44 AM
a little over 3 hours and 35 or so tracks into the podcast so far. Awesome metal section!

Unruly Child is obviously great.

Also enjoyed that Dave Uhrich track.

Thought the Valentine track was excellent.

Chad, saw your last.fm note about scrobbling the tracks and responded there.

thanks Hath :)
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:33:26 PM: Who is the singer for The Ferrymen? He sounds just like Robin McCauley.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2017, 06:34:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:33:26 PM
Who is the singer for The Ferrymen? He sounds just like Robin McCauley.

Ronnie Romero - they guy who's been touring in "Rainbow"
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:37:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2017, 06:34:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:33:26 PM
Who is the singer for The Ferrymen? He sounds just like Robin McCauley.

Ronnie Romero - they guy who's been touring in "Rainbow"

Oh OK. And Lords Of Black. How is the rest of The Ferryman album? If that's the best song, I'll pass. Are these albums getting churned out too fast? Guys are in this project, that project..
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:40:57 PM: That Leatherheart track was :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2017, 06:43:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2017, 06:34:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:33:26 PM
Who is the singer for The Ferrymen? He sounds just like Robin McCauley.

Ronnie Romero - they guy who's been touring in "Rainbow"

Oh OK. And Lords Of Black. How is the rest of The Ferryman album? If that's the best song, I'll pass. Are these albums getting churned out too fast? Guys are in this project, that project..

Views are mixed around here. Chad said earlier that he loves it . My view is that there's nothing "bad" on it - a few songs too long though. Even the best tracks don't wow me , in that they are quite familiar. One Heart is my favourite because to me the writing is a bit more original and thoughtful.

In the end most think it is a very good album but most also agree that it is missing the more memorable songwriting of early Allen/Lande.

The good news is that I am starting to flesh out my list of 2017 "finds" - looking a lot healthier than a few months back.

Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
That Leatherheart track was :metal :metal :metal

:metal
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Post by: Big Hath on October 27, 2017, 06:49:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2017, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
That Leatherheart track was :metal :metal :metal

:metal

indeed. That is a great album.
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:50:07 PM: Currently listening to the track after Nautilus. I like this one. Blackmore style solo..

Quote from: Big Hath on October 27, 2017, 06:49:35 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2017, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
That Leatherheart track was :metal :metal :metal

:metal

indeed. That is a great album.

Going to have to check it out.
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2017, 07:02:50 PM: I had this strange dream last night that I ran a roulette with people I never met. Some strange stuff too.
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2017, 08:05:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 06:50:07 PM
Currently listening to the track after Nautilus. I like this one. Blackmore style solo..

That's Pretty Maids? Probably the first track I've heard by them that I really liked.

Have to pause here for now. 1:45:00 in.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2017, 08:55:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2017, 07:02:50 PM
I had this strange dream last night that I ran a roulette with people I never met. Some strange stuff too.

Jesus... I had the same dream! And you even rated the songs pretty favorably - at least ... in public. In private you shat all over them. It's like you were being a polite Canadian or something. Although, I knew it couldn't be that, because you weren't apologizing enough.

As for the Ferrymen album... nothing wrong with anything, and although I'm a big fan of both Ronnie and Magnus, it's clear Magnus' best writing days are in the rearview mirror. I can't say there's a single track I disliked, but there certainly weren't any that gave me a WOW factor.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2017, 11:53:03 PM: Damn, gotta get onto this podcast.

I really enjoyed The Ferrymen, a lot. But everyone knows my obsession with Magnus.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2017, 08:49:17 AM: https://bravewords.com/news/stryper-frontman-michael-sweet-talks-replacement-for-bassist-tim-gaines-we-do-have-a-guy-in-mind-he-comes-from-a-very-successful-band-and-everyone-will-know-who-he-is
My first thought was Jeff Pilson, but then they said they had to "fly him out". Pilson is already a West Coast guy, right?
Joey Vera is a West Coast guy too, unless he's out here near the Fates' guys.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 28, 2017, 02:14:53 PM: I really enjoyed the new Savage Messiah album today.

And I bought the Sons of Apollo album as HMV.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2017, 06:09:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2017, 08:49:17 AM
https://bravewords.com/news/stryper-frontman-michael-sweet-talks-replacement-for-bassist-tim-gaines-we-do-have-a-guy-in-mind-he-comes-from-a-very-successful-band-and-everyone-will-know-who-he-is
My first thought was Jeff Pilson, but then they said they had to "fly him out". Pilson is already a West Coast guy, right?
Joey Vera is a West Coast guy too, unless he's out here near the Fates' guys.

Pilson would be zero chance until Foreigner calls it a day -he struggled to get a few weeks for some Dokken shows.

Quote from: Lowdz on October 28, 2017, 02:14:53 PM
I really enjoyed the new Savage Messiah album today.

About to check it out myself. Heard one track and thought it was pretty decent.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2017, 08:02:29 PM: Brent, your guess on the bassist?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2017, 08:14:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2017, 08:02:29 PM
Brent, your guess on the bassist?

I really have no idea. Journeymen bassists who are fairly well known? I'll take a wild guess and say James Lomenzo who also happens to be in Sweet/Lynch.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2017, 08:15:51 PM: I expect a bigger name than that. Plus he said from a very successful band. Rules out Lomenzo.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2017, 08:47:14 PM: Depends whether he means currently in a very successful band. I would assume that Sweet wants someone to be full time and so I am assuming that the bassist is not currently in a big band.

Whether you like them or not I would consider White Lion very successful for a period. He was also a member of Black Label Society and Megadeth and probably has the right look.

Another couple of names that could be a chance - Todd Kerns (Slash) and Sean McNabb (Lynch Mob)

Kerns is a good singer as per the recent Toque album. I am guessing that Lynch may have set them up with someone as you can see.

Of course if Rudy Sarzo gets involved then he will have the competition licked.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2017, 09:12:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 28, 2017, 08:47:14 PM

Whether you like them or not I would consider White Lion very successful for a period. He was also a member of Black Label Society and Megadeth and probably has the right look.

It's not that I don't like them. Is White Lion really successful though? The only time I remember them coming to this area was third on a bill with Y&T and Ace Frehley in 1987.

Based on Michael Sweet's tease, I'm expecting a bigger name than James Lomenzo.

Sarzo is interesting.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2017, 09:15:44 PM: Depends if you equate success with album sales. White Lion's Pride album charted #11 in America and is double platinum. Many of the big name bands discussed around here never got close to that.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2017, 09:23:18 PM: Yeah. I guess.. I'm expecting a bigger name than Lomenzo. You could certainly be right. But when Sweet said a "successful band", it just sounded to me that it would've been more recent than literally 30 years ago.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2017, 09:24:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2017, 09:23:18 PM
Yeah. I guess.. I'm expecting a bigger name than Lomenzo. You could certainly be right. But when Sweet said a "successful band", it just sounded to me that it would've been more recent than literally 30 years ago.

Hence why I mentioned his stints in BLS and Megadeth.

In the end I have no idea but it would not surprise me at all if the name comes from the list Lomenzo, McNabb and Kerns in particular. Not sure if Kerns would want to give up his Slash gig for Stryper though.

And Sweet is a little prone to exaggeration at times :)
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2017, 09:33:41 PM: OK, but what about the "fly him out" comment? I would think Lomenzo, Kearns, and McNabb are West Coast guys. As far as I know, Stryper is a West Coast band.

Just having fun sleuthing. :)
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2017, 09:35:04 PM: I have no idea about American band coastal geography ;D Kerns is Canadian and perhaps has less of a gig after the GnR reunion.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2017, 09:40:25 PM: OH, OK, if kerns is Canadian, then that definitely qualifies.
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Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2017, 04:15:00 AM: Billy Sheehan? ;D
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Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2017, 05:30:27 AM: Podcast downloaded.

Will have to listen to about an hour a night at the moment. Won't have anymore time than that. Looking foward to it.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2017, 06:40:34 AM: Brent, checked up on Lomenzo. Seems he was born in NYC. Also recently tweeted a Sweet/Lynch thingy.
You could be right.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2017, 11:11:47 AM: Speaking of Todd Kerns, does anyone even remotely remember his late 90's band, Age of Electric. In 1997 and 1998 they were huge in Canada, then disappeared. I wasn't a major fan, but they were a good band similar to I Mother Earth, Our Lady Peace, Tea Party and Moist. They were just as popular as those other bands.

But I know it's deceiving, but in Canada, all of those bands were played non stop on Much Music and on the radio. It gives you the sense that they are just mega bands, but then you realize it doesn't translate outside of Canada and they weren't nearly as big as the appeared to be.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2017, 11:18:14 AM: Moist?? :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2017, 11:24:30 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
Moist?? :lol

They were huge in Canada
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2017, 12:03:14 PM: The Chadster will know what I'm talking about
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2017, 12:35:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 29, 2017, 12:03:14 PM
The Chadster will know what I'm talking about

Sadly, I do. But, late 90s was not a good radio time for me.

As for Canadian popularity, a lot of these bands can thank the CRTC's 30% Can-Con (Canadian Content) minimum for radio (and TV) broadcasters.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 29, 2017, 03:32:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
Moist?? :lol

Our Lady Pearce and I Mother Earth got Moist at The Tea Party in Canada ?
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2017, 05:11:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 29, 2017, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
Moist?? :lol

Our Lady Pearce and I Mother Earth got Moist at The Tea Party in Canada ?

All because of the Barenaked Ladies.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2017, 08:06:44 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 29, 2017, 05:11:51 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 29, 2017, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
Moist?? :lol

Our Lady Pearce and I Mother Earth got Moist at The Tea Party in Canada ?

All because of the Barenaked Ladies.

It's all because they drank too much Econoline Crush and became a Big Wreck as a result.
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Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2017, 08:20:45 PM: Fuck I love the Tea Party. They make me moist as fuck.
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Post by: Podaar on October 30, 2017, 07:10:41 AM: WARNING:To anyone just popping into this thread and reading the above post for the first time. Do not read it out of context. Please scroll up nine posts to jjrock88 and then continue from there. You will save yourself much shock and dismay.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2017, 10:29:20 AM: Thoughts on listening session #2 (I'm now up to the 4:20 mark... still a couple more hours to go!)

Urgent ... kinda fluffy (surely Tim will/did hate it), but fairly enjoyable
UDO... I'm not much of a fan of his warbly voice/style - I can take it in moderation, but this is probably the reason I'm not eager to go and listen thru the Accept back catalogue - but the music more than compensated for it
Ugly Kid Joe... This was beyond cheesy. The only good thing they ever did was the cover of Cats in the Cradle.
Universe ... pretty bland and uneventful
Unruly Child... nothing spectacular, but it was a step above "solid".
Vain... very nice tune
Vanden Plas ... rocks as usual. I don't spin their earlier material often, but it's excellent. I forgot how un-proggy their early stuff was. When you said "Vanden Plas", I was like... 'when the fuck did you play Vanden Plas'. Sounds virtually nothing like their current music.
Velocity .... dug it big time. Always loved Pat Torpey's work with Mr. Big. Great vox too (as you said they would be)
Victory .... highly enjoyable
Villain .... meh.
Vinnie Vincent ... fail (on you of not being a fan). All win to the song. I too enjoy the 2nd album better (like Slaughter's vox more than Fleischman's), but the debut is still awesome
Virgin Steele.... Passes the JJ test - considering he gave me this exact song in one of my roulettes!
Vixen.... this song tries to be "solid", but falls a tad short.
Voice ... killer opening riff! This is worth checking out further.
Von Groove... I remember you pimping them (didn't they make your Top50?). Fluffy as shit melodic rock, but I loved it. Kinda gave me a Danger Danger feel. Surely won't pass the TAC-test - not sure if it'll be a "suck" or "blow". I ended up purchasing this album after you first put me on to them.
Voodoo X ... great acoustic start, killer overall tune.
W.A.S.P. ... there aren't enough thanks for me to give to Kade for submitting them to me in the last roulette. :hefdaddy:
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2017, 03:20:01 PM: Apparently the new Stryper bassist is the guy from Firehouse.
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2017, 03:25:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2017, 03:20:01 PM
Apparently the new Stryper bassist is the guy from Firehouse.

I thought it was suppose to be a well known guy?
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2017, 03:27:07 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 30, 2017, 10:29:20 AM
W.A.S.P. ... there aren't enough thanks for me to give to Kade for submitting them to me in the last roulette. :hefdaddy:

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Post by: Lowdz on October 30, 2017, 05:59:31 PM: Better late than never Chad.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2017, 06:01:25 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 30, 2017, 05:59:31 PM
Better late than never Chad.

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Post by: bl5150 on October 30, 2017, 07:37:01 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 30, 2017, 10:29:20 AM
Thoughts on listening session #2 (I'm now up to the 4:20 mark... still a couple more hours to go!)

Urgent ... kinda fluffy (surely Tim will/did hate it), but fairly enjoyable
UDO... I'm not much of a fan of his warbly voice/style - I can take it in moderation, but this is probably the reason I'm not eager to go and listen thru the Accept back catalogue - but the music more than compensated for it
Ugly Kid Joe... This was beyond cheesy. The only good thing they ever did was the cover of Cats in the Cradle.
Universe ... pretty bland and uneventful
Unruly Child... nothing spectacular, but it was a step above "solid".
Vain... very nice tune
Vanden Plas ... rocks as usual. I don't spin their earlier material often, but it's excellent. I forgot how un-proggy their early stuff was. When you said "Vanden Plas", I was like... 'when the fuck did you play Vanden Plas'. Sounds virtually nothing like their current music.
Velocity .... dug it big time. Always loved Pat Torpey's work with Mr. Big. Great vox too (as you said they would be)
Victory .... highly enjoyable
Villain .... meh.
Vinnie Vincent ... fail (on you of not being a fan). All win to the song. I too enjoy the 2nd album better (like Slaughter's vox more than Fleischman's), but the debut is still awesome
Virgin Steele.... Passes the JJ test - considering he gave me this exact song in one of my roulettes!
Vixen.... this song tries to be "solid", but falls a tad short.
Voice ... killer opening riff! This is worth checking out further.
Von Groove... I remember you pimping them (didn't they make your Top50?). Fluffy as shit melodic rock, but I loved it. Kinda gave me a Danger Danger feel. Surely won't pass the TAC-test - not sure if it'll be a "suck" or "blow". I ended up purchasing this album after you first put me on to them.
Voodoo X ... great acoustic start, killer overall tune.
W.A.S.P. ... there aren't enough thanks for me to give to Kade for submitting them to me in the last roulette. :hefdaddy:

Thanks Chad.

My goal with the rarities list is to expose everyone to the stuff that was considered quality rare/undiscovered stuff at the time so at least people can hear it and make a decision ...........some has aged well and some hasn't and your strike rate is about as expected. I do expect that a lot of the songs will be loved by some and hated by others and that's all part of catering to various tastes in the one show. I also aimed with the "classics" to bring back some cool memories - both good and bad ;D I have never owned a single thing from Ugly Kid Joe but it's no doubt representative of the era .

Re VVI - when I say I was never a big fan back in the day it doesn't necessarily mean they didn't grow on me a bit later. I rate All Systems Go reasonably highly.

All good feedback - thanks :metal Glad there were a few "finds."
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2017, 07:53:04 PM: Got through the first half hour of the podcast and will probably only be able to get around half hour a day. That Anthrax reminded me why I wasn't that keen on their early stuff, for some reason, they just didn't really get me going at all.

That Dio song is one of my favs and I think I'd still rate Sacred Heart as my fav album from him.

Never been a huge Blackmore fan either.

Seventh Sign is the first Yngwie song I ever heard along with Never Die that my guitar teacher showed me. Fucking blew me away, never heard anything like it.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2017, 08:14:09 PM: The Alice Cooper/Ace Frehley show from Sydney is on Dime. I was looking at Ace's setlist:
01. Intro: Fractured Mirror
02. Parasite
03. Hard Times
04. 2000 Man
05. Rip It Out
06. Love Gun
07. Rocket Ride
08. Bass Solo
09. Strange Ways
10. Talk to Me
11. New York Groove
12. Shock Me
13. Ace Frehley Guitar Solo
14. Detroit Rock City
15. Deuce

I must say, that is one great setlist. Hard Times AND Strange Ways?? :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on October 30, 2017, 08:41:05 PM: That is a good set assuming he performed it half decently :lol

Speaking of Australia it seems we are getting a tour from Europe. I was huge into them back in the day but not sure I want to hear all their Deep Zeppelin material and all the old stuff tuned down an octave :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 31, 2017, 02:20:13 AM: I was a big fan of Ugly Kid Joe back then, out of curiosity, what song did you put in your podcast?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 03:20:46 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 31, 2017, 02:20:13 AM
I was a big fan of Ugly Kid Joe back then, out of curiosity, what song did you put in your podcast?

Neighbour :)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 31, 2017, 03:55:57 AM: Funny little tune but they had better songs imo.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:05:29 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on October 31, 2017, 03:55:57 AM
Funny little tune but they had better songs imo.

I'm sure they do. I really only know that one , Cat's In The Cradle and Everything About You. Didn't take the time to listen to the albums as they were more of an afterthought in terms of the popular bands that might bring a few memories back for people.

About to listen to the new PC69 - hopefully it's better than I'm expecting .
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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:03:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:05:29 AM
About to listen to the new PC69 - hopefully it's better than I'm expecting .

I really enjoyed the last one.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 05:06:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:03:27 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:05:29 AM
About to listen to the new PC69 - hopefully it's better than I'm expecting .

I really enjoyed the last one.

Well I didn't like the last one at all and rated this one higher (78%) ;D To me it's real by the numbers stuff -maybe one memorable track - and I love a lot of their early stuff . I became a big fan during the Electrified and Sonic Dynamite era and also enjoy some of the Deris era stuff.

Hopefully the live album that came with it is worth a listen.
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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:10:06 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 05:06:55 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:03:27 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:05:29 AM
About to listen to the new PC69 - hopefully it's better than I'm expecting .

I really enjoyed the last one.

Well I didn't like the last one at all and rated this one higher (78%) ;D To me it's real by the numbers stuff and I love a lot of their early stuff .

Hopefully the live album that came with it is worth a listen.

Don't think we expected anything different Brent. :tup
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Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 05:11:47 AM: What's that meant to mean - that I'm a grumpy old sod who doesn't like any new releases ? :lol

You'll be surprised if I manage to put that Best of 2017 show together - there is some cool , half original metal out there but boy does it take some digging.
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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:14:16 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 05:11:47 AM
What's that meant to mean - that I'm a grumpy old sod who doesn't like any new releases ? :lol

You'll be surprised if I manage to put that Best of 2017 show together - there is some cool , half original metal out there but boy does it take some digging.

I'm really looking forward to that mate. Your rare shit is always hidden gold.

Yeah, admit my comment might have been a bit abrupt. ;D

Anyway, have some new shitty Geoff Tate everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZK3OXpOXKI

This certainly doesn't pass the Jason test.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 05:18:50 AM: I'll be interested to see what you think of the PC69 Kade. It's not awful or anything but it just sounds like it was written in a week. I suppose when all these guys are spread over multiple projects and the albums ain't where the money is then it's no surprised a lot of releases sound rushed.

All the best material I am finding is from bands who aren't existing favourites.
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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:24:24 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 05:18:50 AM
I'll be interested to see what you think of the PC69 Kade. It's not awful or anything but it just sounds like it was written in a week. I suppose when all these guys are spread over multiple projects and the albums ain't where the money is then it's no surprised a lot of releases sound rushed.

All the best material I am finding is from bands who aren't existing favourites.

Yeah mate, I'll have a listen when I can. I didn't mind the last one cause it was a bit different, it had more of an alternate sound at times but I liked some of the songwriting. To me there seemed to be a bit of thought into the songs.

Oh, insane PF song. I still can't believe to this day that it's a bonus track.
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Post by: TAC on October 31, 2017, 05:45:21 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:14:16 AM

Anyway, have some new shitty Geoff Tate everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZK3OXpOXKI

This certainly doesn't pass the Jason test.

I just can't believe that grown men, so called professional musicians, that's what they came up with. It's nothing a handful of 12 year olds couldn't write in their mother's basement.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 31, 2017, 06:23:45 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 31, 2017, 05:45:21 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:14:16 AM

Anyway, have some new shitty Geoff Tate everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZK3OXpOXKI

This certainly doesn't pass the Jason test.

I just can't believe that grown men, so called professional musicians, that's what they came up with. It's nothing a handful of 12 year olds couldn't write in their mother's basement.

I'm sorry, can someone please explain why any one of us would waste even 10 seconds on Tater? It's not like you need to take one for the team, we all know it's gonna be shyte.
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Post by: TAC on October 31, 2017, 06:26:42 AM: So I haven't listened to anything he's done in years, including the last QR album, but based on some recent live reviews he'd been getting, I clicked the link yesterday. I literally didn't make it past the 30 second mark.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 31, 2017, 06:47:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 05:18:50 AM
... It's not awful or anything but it just sounds like it was written in a week. I suppose when all these guys are spread over multiple projects and the albums ain't where the money is then it's no surprised a lot of releases sound rushed.

This is true for other bands as well *cough*sonsofapollo*cough*. If you aren't a jam band, take your time and work your music out, the results will almost always be better.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 31, 2017, 02:04:14 PM: That Tate song was terrible. Not at the shit barometer level of The Stranger, but still at a very high shit level.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 31, 2017, 04:02:06 PM: I took the last one for the team. Not going t9 bother with that one.

Anyone heard the Midnite City s/t? It’s on Spotify. Quite good. Very Danger Danger/Crazy Lixx.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 31, 2017, 04:05:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 31, 2017, 04:02:06 PM
Anyone heard the Midnite City s/t? It’s on Spotify. Quite good. Very Danger Danger/Crazy Lixx.

I've had it saved in the "Lowdz recc'n" folder for a while. Still haven't gotten to it.
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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 04:08:10 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 31, 2017, 06:23:45 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 31, 2017, 05:45:21 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:14:16 AM

Anyway, have some new shitty Geoff Tate everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZK3OXpOXKI

This certainly doesn't pass the Jason test.

I just can't believe that grown men, so called professional musicians, that's what they came up with. It's nothing a handful of 12 year olds couldn't write in their mother's basement.

I'm sorry, can someone please explain why any one of us would waste even 10 seconds on Tater? It's not like you need to take one for the team, we all know it's gonna be shyte.

It's still interesting to hear what he comes out with IMO. I think we know it's gonna be crap but it's worth it for a laugh.

Quote from: jjrock88 on October 31, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
That Tate song was terrible. Not at the shit barometer level of The Stranger, but still at a very high shit level.

Could have bet my life savings that your comment on this would have involved 'The Stranger' J. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:13:35 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 31, 2017, 04:02:06 PM

Anyone heard the Midnite City s/t? It’s on Spotify. Quite good. Very Danger Danger/Crazy Lixx.

I am currently running through a list of about fifty 2017 new releases and that's in it. I will operate on the rule of "if you don't have something nice to say........." ;D Hopefully I'll have something to say.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 04:25:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 31, 2017, 04:02:06 PM

Anyone heard the Midnite City s/t? It’s on Spotify. Quite good. Very Danger Danger/Crazy Lixx.

I am currently running through a list of about fifty 2017 new releases and that's in it. I will operate on the rule of "if you don't have something nice to say........." ;D Hopefully I'll have something to say.

This must be my fault. ;D But no, no Brent, tell us what's shit, if you are taking hits for the team, we need to know about it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:31:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 04:25:47 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 31, 2017, 04:02:06 PM

Anyone heard the Midnite City s/t? It’s on Spotify. Quite good. Very Danger Danger/Crazy Lixx.

I am currently running through a list of about fifty 2017 new releases and that's in it. I will operate on the rule of "if you don't have something nice to say........." ;D Hopefully I'll have something to say.

This must be my fault. ;D But no, no Brent, tell us what's shit, if you are taking hits for the team, we need to know about it.

Maybe not your "fault" but once I had a think about it ...........I am as sick of saying the same thing about all these releases as you are hearing it :lol Your comment didn't bother me.

I don't want to put people off listening to new releases from established bands as - using PC69's last one as an example- our tastes , while usually very similar, can diverge at times.

The new PC 69 I rated 78% - in my mind that ain't "shit" - just a meh album I won't return to aside from maybe one song.

I'll look forward to hopefully highlighting some unknown 2017 releases that are better. Have to put my money where my mouth is now ;D
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Post by: TAC on October 31, 2017, 04:38:03 PM: Can't wait to hear your best of 2017 Brent. Expecting some Cellador, which I'm sure will get the Seven Sisters treatment! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:39:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 31, 2017, 04:38:03 PM
Can't wait to hear your best of 2017 Brent. Expecting some Cellador, which I'm sure will get the Seven Sisters treatment! :lol

I will play that as a request from one of our most valued listeners :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 05:21:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:31:36 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2017, 04:25:47 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2017, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 31, 2017, 04:02:06 PM

Anyone heard the Midnite City s/t? It’s on Spotify. Quite good. Very Danger Danger/Crazy Lixx.

I am currently running through a list of about fifty 2017 new releases and that's in it. I will operate on the rule of "if you don't have something nice to say........." ;D Hopefully I'll have something to say.

This must be my fault. ;D But no, no Brent, tell us what's shit, if you are taking hits for the team, we need to know about it.

Maybe not your "fault" but once I had a think about it ...........I am as sick of saying the same thing about all these releases as you are hearing it :lol Your comment didn't bother me.

I don't want to put people off listening to new releases from established bands as - using PC69's last one as an example- our tastes , while usually very similar, can diverge at times.

The new PC 69 I rated 78% - in my mind that ain't "shit" - just a meh album I won't return to aside from maybe one song.

I'll look forward to hopefully highlighting some unknown 2017 releases that are better. Have to put my money where my mouth is now ;D

Yes, but when releases fall into this category more and more, this is the truth Brent. Even though yes, we should form our own opinions, all of us are familiar enough to know and pretty much be on the same page. I'll listen to the new PC69 regardless cause I liked the last one. There's no way I wouldn't listen to it cause of your comments either mate. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on October 31, 2017, 11:19:40 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 30, 2017, 10:29:20 AM
Victory .... highly enjoyable

goodness, I thought I was listening to Tom Sawyer at first with that intro
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2017, 05:25:36 AM: Classic Ozzy and Accept in there.

Interesting track pick from the Ferrymen Brent, it's definitely a good one though.

The Leatherheart was excellent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2017, 06:23:26 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/empyrean-throne-announce-u-s-dates-with-wolf-king

Kade, WTF? No East Coast dates? I was looking forward to seeing you in Boston!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2017, 06:36:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 01, 2017, 06:23:26 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/empyrean-throne-announce-u-s-dates-with-wolf-king

Kade, WTF? No East Coast dates? I was looking forward to seeing you in Boston!

WTF? Who are these imposters!!? And I wasn't even asked to be one of their guitarists.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2017, 05:20:20 AM: That Annihilator was quite alright, but really tried to do a solo Halford/Dickinson clone type thing there. I have a few of their albums and nothing really grabs me even though everything is decent sounding enough. Agree with you Brent that Waters is such an underrated shredder.

One of my favs is the solo he did on the Roadrunner united track;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbZUetnCbDU

Tasty.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 02, 2017, 07:07:27 AM: Jeff Waters is a great and probably underrated guitar player, he's got the riffs, he can shred and he can play decent solos.

But he's not the greatest of song-writers, what I know of Annihilator is a bit sketchy and some of the vocalists he had weren't the best either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2017, 10:48:08 AM: I’ll cert give the PC69 a listen. I’ve played some of the back catalogue recently in anticipation but maybe that’s not a good idea as it has certainly raised expectation. They are a grea5 band when on song but their early stuff didn’t do it for me and I’m only a fan following David Readman joining.
Just not a fan of Deris.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 02, 2017, 10:57:23 AM: I still think Games People Play is their best record, but overall the Readmen era is much better.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 02, 2017, 02:32:58 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 02, 2017, 07:07:27 AM
Jeff Waters is a great and probably underrated guitar player, he's got the riffs, he can shred and he can play decent solos.

But he's not the greatest of song-writers, what I know of Annihilator is a bit sketchy and some of the vocalists he had weren't the best either.

A lot of people like Alice In Hell , but to me the two classics are Never Neverland and (the more melodic metal of) Set The World On Fire. That was when Jeff was really focused and writing well. Since then, very patchy.

Ditto for PC 69 and Electrified/Sonic Dynamite era. I also like plenty of the Deris era but after Sonic Dynamite they had the very rushed/patchy Endangered , returned to form somewhat with Thunderdome but I have been a lot less interested in new material since. I would equate the most recent release with Endangered in terms of my level of enjoyment. Not awful but very little I need to hear again.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2017, 02:53:05 PM: Yeah Endangered was a real drop off after the previous two. Thunderdome is their best for me.

Never really rated Annihilator. Alice is ok but they don’t really d9 it for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2017, 03:05:46 PM: Speaking of Annihilator, I don't know all their stuff but one album for some reason I always gravitated too was Refresh the Demon.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 02, 2017, 03:06:48 PM: I only know the song Allison Hell and it's a pretty good track. Ripper Owens actually did a fantastic job singing it on a Roadrunner show a few years back.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2017, 03:09:50 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 02, 2017, 03:06:48 PM
I only know the song Allison Hell and it's a pretty good track. Ripper Owens actually did a fantastic job singing it on a Roadrunner show a few years back.

Ripper's version of Abigail on that DVD is incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 02, 2017, 10:01:13 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 02, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 02, 2017, 03:06:48 PM
I only know the song Allison Hell and it's a pretty good track. Ripper Owens actually did a fantastic job singing it on a Roadrunner show a few years back.

Ripper's version of Abigail on that DVD is incredible.

I agree!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on November 02, 2017, 10:46:22 PM: big fan of that Wall of Silence album. The title track is great.

The W.A.S.P. and Waysted tracks were awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2017, 04:00:53 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/sweet-lynch-debut-walk-music-video

I don't know how I feel about this. Was their first album any good?

Damn, Michael Sweet has some pipes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2017, 08:20:15 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/europe-to-tour-australia-for-the-first-time-ever-dates-confirmed-for-may-2018-announcement-video

Kade, Brent...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2017, 08:30:12 PM: Deja vu Tim ;D

Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2017, 08:14:09 PM
The Alice Cooper/Ace Frehley show from Sydney is on Dime. I was looking at Ace's setlist:
01. Intro: Fractured Mirror
02. Parasite
03. Hard Times
04. 2000 Man
05. Rip It Out
06. Love Gun
07. Rocket Ride
08. Bass Solo
09. Strange Ways
10. Talk to Me
11. New York Groove
12. Shock Me
13. Ace Frehley Guitar Solo
14. Detroit Rock City
15. Deuce

I must say, that is one great setlist. Hard Times AND Strange Ways?? :metal

Quote from: bl5150 on October 30, 2017, 08:41:05 PM
That is a good set assuming he performed it half decently :lol

Speaking of Australia it seems we are getting a tour from Europe. I was huge into them back in the day but not sure I want to hear all their Deep Zeppelin material and all the old stuff tuned down an octave :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 03, 2017, 08:31:47 PM: I missed that. I've been getting attacked in like three threads for what seems like a number of days. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2017, 08:42:06 PM: Might be a few MILFS at the Europe gig Tim ;D

And we might need to fly you out mate because there's rumours about that Winger could be support. :metal
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Post by: TAC on November 03, 2017, 08:43:51 PM: Oh. So bad..
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2017, 08:50:36 PM: I am about to listen to Europe's new one now - probably the first of theirs I will listen to in full since their reformation. Haven't wanted to risk it until now but I suppose I better do a bit of listening if they're touring. What I have heard of their new style really hasn't interested me much but the title track of the new sounds decent so we'll see.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 04, 2017, 07:13:25 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2017, 08:50:36 PM
I am about to listen to Europe's new one now - probably the first of theirs I will listen to in full since their reformation. Haven't wanted to risk it until now but I suppose I better do a bit of listening if they're touring. What I have heard of their new style really hasn't interested me much but the title track of the new sounds decent so we'll see.

decent or solid?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2017, 07:19:47 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 04, 2017, 07:13:25 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2017, 08:50:36 PM
I am about to listen to Europe's new one now - probably the first of theirs I will listen to in full since their reformation. Haven't wanted to risk it until now but I suppose I better do a bit of listening if they're touring. What I have heard of their new style really hasn't interested me much but the title track of the new sounds decent so we'll see.

decent or solid?

Better than expected and I'll give it a "very good." :) I thought there were 2 or 3 standout tracks and at its worst it's solid. I haven't been a huge fan of their new Purple/Zep influenced style but , unlike a lot of the old bands, you can tell that they are taking some time and at least trying hard to write some songs that have substance. Sometimes it works better than others but I found it quite a good listen.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 04, 2017, 03:46:57 PM: It’s good. I prefer the last one though. Give that try Brent.

Joeys voice has lost its magic though. Understandable I guess. It’s by no means bad but the warmth has gone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 04, 2017, 05:08:32 PM: https://youtu.be/0hx5ebA-Wn0

New Seventh Wonder concept album. Sounds good from the short clips.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 04, 2017, 06:17:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2017, 08:50:36 PM
I am about to listen to Europe's new one now - probably the first of theirs I will listen to in full since their reformation.

I wasn't aware they broke up. I figured I'd check this since you guys are talking about it. Just the first three songs so far, it is Deep Purple influenced for sure. The verse to Kingdom United is totally Gillan.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2017, 03:40:52 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 03, 2017, 08:42:06 PM
And we might need to fly you out mate because there's rumours about that Winger could be support. :metal

If that's the case, I might just go for Winger. I'm tired of Europe's snoozefests lately. The Purple/Zep thing is so old.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2017, 03:43:26 AM: The Powermad was very good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2017, 03:57:27 AM: The Dave Ureck? was nice, really nice.

The Urgent was amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2017, 04:06:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2017, 03:57:27 AM
The Dave Ureck? was nice, really nice.

The Urgent was amazing.

Cheers Kade. Now that most are a fair way in I will get a link happening for a tracklist with all the details.

Spelling = Dave Uhrich.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2017, 08:43:03 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Yxk6h_-Hg

The first comment:
"The janitors found the music room."

:rollin
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 05, 2017, 10:24:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2017, 08:43:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Yxk6h_-Hg

The first comment:
"The janitors found the music room."

:rollin

They sound like a lower level Anvil. Actually I would still take this any day over a growlie band (sorry Wolf)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2017, 02:04:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2017, 08:43:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Yxk6h_-Hg

The first comment:
"The janitors found the music room."

:rollin

They should use the vac/blower from the Chat thread on their next album cover Tim - they suck AND they blow
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2017, 05:17:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 05, 2017, 08:43:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Yxk6h_-Hg

The first comment:
"The janitors found the music room."

:rollin

Solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2017, 05:17:46 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 05, 2017, 04:06:00 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2017, 03:57:27 AM
The Dave Ureck? was nice, really nice.

The Urgent was amazing.

Cheers Kade. Now that most are a fair way in I will get a link happening for a tracklist with all the details.

Spelling = Dave Uhrich.

Yeah mate, post away.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2017, 04:16:47 AM: Tracklist here (also added to OP) : https://yadi.sk/d/WCXdPt-P3Nximk
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2017, 03:46:35 PM: Listened to the Sweet Lynch. First song was ok then it became very shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 07, 2017, 05:04:01 PM: I was tempted to buy the first Sweet Lynch but didn't bother. I definitely won't bother with the second one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2017, 05:35:37 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 07, 2017, 03:46:35 PM
Listened to the Sweet Lynch. First song was ok then it became very shit.

It was better than I expected. I expected crap (based on what I had been told) and thought it was solid . Solid crap? ;D

Not going to make any Best Of list but I thought there were 2 or 3 very good tracks on it and the rest I found quite listenable. I actually preferred it to the new PC69 which was easy to tap your foot to but entirely predictable whereas Lynch is never entirely predictable (both good and bad :lol )
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2017, 04:06:00 AM: Saxon - Thunderbolt - 2nd Feb

01. Olympus Rising
02. Thunderbolt
03. The Secret Of Flight
04. Nosferatu (The Vampires Waltz)
05. They Played Rock And Roll
06. Predator
07. Sons Of Odin
08. Sniper
09. A Wizard's Tale
10. Speed Merchants
11. Roadie's Song
12. Nosferatu (Raw Version) (not available on vinyl)

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/saxonthundeboltcover.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2017, 03:28:39 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yhdNt0qA-A

Oh my...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2017, 04:05:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 08, 2017, 03:28:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yhdNt0qA-A

Oh my...

Only watched a minute, but Ozzy sounds.....um...great...... :|
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 08, 2017, 06:26:11 PM: No wimpy sounding song titles on that new Saxon that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2017, 06:35:57 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 08, 2017, 06:26:11 PM
No wimpy sounding song titles on that new Saxon that's for sure.

Hell yeah, really looking forward to this one. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2017, 06:45:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 08, 2017, 06:26:11 PM
No wimpy sounding song titles on that new Saxon that's for sure.

:lol No kidding, right?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2017, 07:41:00 PM: Thunderbolt is just a badass perfect Saxon album title!! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2017, 07:46:46 PM: I'm pretty sure Saxon owns the record for coolest album titles! :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2017, 04:15:42 AM: Great Vanden Plas track Chad. Colour Temple is such a wonderful debut album, one of the strongest from any prog band I reckon.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2017, 04:37:41 AM: Wish I could have placed a bet on which Virgin Steele song you were going to play Brent. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2017, 05:07:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2017, 04:37:41 AM
Wish I could have placed a bet on which Virgin Steele song you were going to play Brent. :tup

:)

One of only a few songs I have repeated on the podcast. And deservedly so :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2017, 05:27:13 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 10, 2017, 05:07:00 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2017, 04:37:41 AM
Wish I could have placed a bet on which Virgin Steele song you were going to play Brent. :tup

:)

One of only a few songs I have repeated on the podcast. And deservedly so :metal

It's glorious!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2017, 06:43:28 AM: From the OP:

Quote from: bl5150 on September 21, 2014, 05:33:32 AM
PODCASTS: (note : the sound improved dramatically from around #4 or 5 onward. I hope to find time to go back and "remaster" #1-3/4)

The Ben & Brent Remasters! :metal :metal

Hopefully will contain bloopers!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2017, 06:52:22 AM: Brent, sorry I haven't commented on the podcast lately. I'm just about up to the rareties. I d'loaded the tracklist to follow along.
I have three hours in a waiting room this morning, so I'm podcasting!

UFO, Waysted?

(https://theinterviewguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/you-like-me.jpg)

Winger??

(https://i.memecaptain.com/gend_images/yvKJYQ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2017, 06:59:43 AM: For the record, I think Making Contact is just OK. They really missed Pete Way on it, and it's quite scattered.

When It's Time To Rock is decent enough. The production on this album kills the energy, but I love the instrumental part. One of my favorite Chapman moments. Cool solo in the outro.

I rate Making Contact in the lower half.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2017, 07:08:28 AM: I guess Tim hasn't noticed the White Lion in there yet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2017, 07:10:29 AM: I was temporarily blinded when I got to the "W"'s.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2017, 07:35:04 AM: I listened to Abominog a shit ton back in the day. I thought Peter Goalby had an awesome voice.
Yeah, Son Of A Bitch wasn't on my album. Abominog hasn't really aged that well though.

I can't decide if I like that Vain song or not. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2017, 07:57:58 AM: Holy shit Brent, did that Van Stephenson tune blow. :lol
If you do a Wuss Thread Podcast, that should fit in nicely.

That Villian tune is cool. The singer has a Ray Alder quality to his voice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2017, 08:55:23 AM: Brent, thank you for the Waysted double shot. I wore out The Good The Bad The Waysted when I was a kid. It made The TAC Top 50 (#24).
Features both Jerry Shirley and Paul Chapman. Brutal production, but Chapman has some tasty licks throughout the entire album.

I rate it much higher than Vices, but although Vices is uneven, I still love it. Once you get past the first two songs (Love Loaded and Women In Chains), it's actually pretty good. Great tracks like Night Of The Wolf, Right From The Start, Toy With The Passion, and Sleazy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2017, 01:04:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2017, 06:59:43 AM
For the record, I think Making Contact is just OK. They really missed Pete Way on it, and it's quite scattered.

When It's Time To Rock is decent enough. The production on this album kills the energy, but I love the instrumental part. One of my favorite Chapman moments. Cool solo in the outro.

I rate Making Contact in the lower half.

I like MC. Some very good songs on it agree about the production.

I’ve downloaded the podcast but not got around to listening yet.
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2017, 02:47:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2017, 07:57:58 AM
Holy shit Brent, did that Van Stephenson tune blow. :lol
If you do a Wuss Thread Podcast, that should fit in nicely.

I thought it was fucking awesome actually. Only heard it once on the podcast here but it keeps popping into my head.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2017, 03:53:59 PM: I know Brent wasn’t too impressed with the PC 69 but I enjoyed my first play. Nothing too different from what they do but it rocked.

Enjoyed it more than the JSS but that had its moments.
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Post by: TAC on November 10, 2017, 05:17:02 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2017, 02:47:54 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2017, 07:57:58 AM
Holy shit Brent, did that Van Stephenson tune blow. :lol
If you do a Wuss Thread Podcast, that should fit in nicely.

I thought it was fucking awesome actually. Only heard it once on the podcast here but it keeps popping into my head.

Haha, you would like it. You have that soft spot, and I mean that as a compliment. :)

And I did recognize one unnamed song that won a round in my Roulette. ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 10, 2017, 06:45:19 PM: Just a side note question from the podcast.

I'm curious what everyone thinks, especially the Chadster, of Greta Van Fleet.

Good grief, do they sound identical to Led Zeppelin or what. For a group of 18-21 year olds, that is just uncanny. I read an interview with them and they didn't even seem like they were much of a Zeppelin fan at all.

It's astronomicaly rare that I like a mainstream radio song, but I definitely don't mind that tune.
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Post by: TAC on November 10, 2017, 06:52:47 PM: I've literally never heard a note from them.
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Post by: Big Hath on November 10, 2017, 11:00:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2017, 02:47:54 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2017, 07:57:58 AM
Holy shit Brent, did that Van Stephenson tune blow. :lol
If you do a Wuss Thread Podcast, that should fit in nicely.

I thought it was fucking awesome actually. Only heard it once on the podcast here but it keeps popping into my head.

yeah, I thought it was pretty great
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Post by: erwinrafael on November 11, 2017, 02:20:50 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 10, 2017, 06:45:19 PM
Just a side note question from the podcast.

I'm curious what everyone thinks, especially the Chadster, of Greta Van Fleet.

Good grief, do they sound identical to Led Zeppelin or what. For a group of 18-21 year olds, that is just uncanny. I read an interview with them and they didn't even seem like they were much of a Zeppelin fan at all.

It's astronomicaly rare that I like a mainstream radio song, but I definitely don't mind that tune.

When I first heard the Greta Van Fleet song, Highway Tune, I thought it was a Led Zep song that I haven't heard before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJg4OJxp-co

These kids are amazing.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 11, 2017, 02:27:35 AM: Yes his voice is ~~as annoying~~ identical to Robert Plant. No thanks...
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 11, 2017, 05:27:52 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 10, 2017, 06:45:19 PM
Just a side note question from the podcast.

I'm curious what everyone thinks, especially the Chadster, of Greta Van Fleet.

Good grief, do they sound identical to Led Zeppelin or what. For a group of 18-21 year olds, that is just uncanny. I read an interview with them and they didn't even seem like they were much of a Zeppelin fan at all.

It's astronomicaly rare that I like a mainstream radio song, but I definitely don't mind that tune.

A buddy of mine played them for me when they first starting hitting the radio airways in the summer. The Zeppelin sound is undeniable. Pretty good little EP, and I do enjoy it a lot. Looking forward to seeing what they can do over the course of a full album.

Certainly no surprise that Tim's never heard of them, or that Paul hates the vocals. :lol :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 11, 2017, 09:20:04 AM: So my son was in the Veteran's Day Parade today:

(https://i.imgur.com/AZznNAs.jpg)

But what I wanted to show was that I live in a small town, where the school band might have 30 kids in it....
BUT 3 of them are bass guitarists! :lol :metal

(https://i.imgur.com/RTvaSUF.jpg)
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 11, 2017, 11:09:07 AM: There's three kids that'll never get laid. :lol

Awesome for Jr TAC!
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2017, 03:05:57 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 11, 2017, 11:09:07 AM
There's three kids that'll never get laid. :lol

Awesome for Jr TAC!

I think at least they will get laid before the guys with the saxaphones. ;D

Joking aside, that's awesome Tim.
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2017, 03:06:58 AM: Just wanted to add that the Velocity I think it was, Love is Dangerous, was bloody awesome.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 12, 2017, 05:41:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 12, 2017, 03:06:58 AM
Just wanted to add that the Velocity I think it was, Love is Dangerous, was bloody awesome.

Velocity are pretty good.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2017, 07:05:08 AM: Cool feedback on all those songs thanks guys - it makes me feel better knowing that the risky ones did get the few fans I was expecting ;D

Now Tim..........re Stryper bass player. It ended up being the dude from Firehouse but you might remember that my 2 main picks were Lomenzo and McNabb. I missed it by a bee's dick ;D Recent quote from Michael Sweet:

Regarding how STRYPER hooked up with Richardson, Michael said: "Our co-manager mentioned [Perry]. We were talking with Sean McNabb [LYNCH MOB] and I had a brief conversation with Chris Wyse, who plays with Ace Frehley and THE CULT. I love James LoMenzo [MEGADETH, WHITE LION, BLACK LABEL SOCIETY], who could have been a great fit, too. But there's so much to think about, so when Perry's name got thrown out there, it was one of those, 'I never thought of that' things. I reached out him, and scheduled a flight.

Oh - an important Bret Michaels update. He will soon be appearing on a show called Love Camp where he gives dating advice to chicks. And he is also releasing his first Xmas song so that should be huge too.

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/bretmichaelsjinglebellscover.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2017, 07:21:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2017, 07:05:08 AM
Now Tim..........re Stryper bass player. It ended up being the dude from Firehouse but you might remember that my 2 main picks were Lomenzo and McNabb. I missed it by a bee's dick ;D Recent quote from Michael Sweet:

Regarding how STRYPER hooked up with Richardson, Michael said: "Our co-manager mentioned [Perry]. We were talking with Sean McNabb [LYNCH MOB] and I had a brief conversation with Chris Wyse, who plays with Ace Frehley and THE CULT. I love James LoMenzo [MEGADETH, WHITE LION, BLACK LABEL SOCIETY], who could have been a great fit, too. But there's so much to think about, so when Perry's name got thrown out there, it was one of those, 'I never thought of that' things. I reached out him, and scheduled a flight.

I never doubted you for a second! I had always assumed Lomenzo was a west coast guy. Plus, I just can't give White Lion any love.

If that bee had an erection you would've nailed it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2017, 02:11:56 PM: Seriously how much of a douche is DS?

https://youtu.be/oAJ9WfRVBuc?t=264

If Soto remains in this band (or if this band survives) beyond maybe one more album I would be seriously surprised. I just can't imagine anyone putting up with their crap unless there's huge coin to be made.
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Post by: TAC on November 12, 2017, 02:19:21 PM: And to think mostly everyone around here considered him pretty classy.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2017, 02:49:33 PM: I watched about 45 seconds of that, and DS looks bored (studying the ceiling) when the focus isn't on him.

Seriously, 10 pounds of douche in a 5 pound bucket is what that guy is. Never is he going to get a cent of my money. Stick to instrumentals pal... the vox on SoA ain't all that great.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 12, 2017, 03:20:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 12, 2017, 02:19:21 PM
And to think mostly everyone around here considered him pretty classy.

I very nearly didn’t buy the album because of Sherinian’s attitude, but I really liked it.
As we say around these parts, he’s a complete twat.
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Post by: ozzy554 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Seriously how much of a douche is DS?

https://youtu.be/oAJ9WfRVBuc?t=264

If Soto remains in this band (or if this band survives) beyond maybe one more album I would be seriously surprised. I just can't imagine anyone putting up with their crap unless there's huge coin to be made.

Yeah that's some BS right there. JSS still has a pretty good set of pipes for his age and seems like a cool guy as well. One of my main complaints about the album is that it feels like he's restrained. Now I see that I was right lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2017, 04:05:52 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Seriously how much of a douche is DS?

https://youtu.be/oAJ9WfRVBuc?t=264

If Soto remains in this band (or if this band survives) beyond maybe one more album I would be seriously surprised. I just can't imagine anyone putting up with their crap unless there's huge coin to be made.

DS is seriously on drugs, he's completely whacked. Such an arrogant reponse and great way to put down JSS mate. Maybe they should have let JSS contribute from what I've heard. I still haven't listened to the album and probably won't bother.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2017, 04:14:45 AM: I don't know if this has been posted but it's a Sweet/Lynch video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0fFiymgMwA

What the fuck is this? This is fucking terrible. Jesus!!?
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Post by: erwinrafael on November 13, 2017, 07:52:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Seriously how much of a douche is DS?

https://youtu.be/oAJ9WfRVBuc?t=264

If Soto remains in this band (or if this band survives) beyond maybe one more album I would be seriously surprised. I just can't imagine anyone putting up with their crap unless there's huge coin to be made.

JSS should just tour his newly-released album, which I am enjoying more immensely than SoA.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2017, 02:22:37 PM: Quote from: erwinrafael on November 13, 2017, 07:52:43 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 12, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Seriously how much of a douche is DS?

https://youtu.be/oAJ9WfRVBuc?t=264

If Soto remains in this band (or if this band survives) beyond maybe one more album I would be seriously surprised. I just can't imagine anyone putting up with their crap unless there's huge coin to be made.

JSS should just tour his newly-released album, which I am enjoying more immensely than SoA.

I need to check it out. Damage Control was absolutely brilliant IMO and even the Soto stuff I didn't mind.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2017, 02:29:39 PM: Just had a listen to the couple of new songs from the new PF best of. The cover is strange even though it's well done. Predator was really excellent with an old school PF vibe, but Thrill of Speed was more generic and filler. It's all Magnus on guitars too, perhaps everything else also except vox.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2017, 03:23:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 13, 2017, 02:29:39 PM
Just had a listen to the couple of new songs from the new PF best of. The cover is strange even though it's well done. Predator was really excellent with an old school PF vibe, but Thrill of Speed was more generic and filler. It's all Magnus on guitars too, perhaps everything else also except vox.

:rollin :rollin It's not like he's Yngvie!
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2017, 03:26:36 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 13, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 13, 2017, 02:29:39 PM
Just had a listen to the couple of new songs from the new PF best of. The cover is strange even though it's well done. Predator was really excellent with an old school PF vibe, but Thrill of Speed was more generic and filler. It's all Magnus on guitars too, perhaps everything else also except vox.

:rollin :rollin It's not like he's Yngvie!

He sings a lot better at least. :biggrin:

Well, I say that cause it's weird Alex and Tom on present on these tracks. Makes me think he wrote them all himself then got Ralf to sing over the top. Wouldn't be surprised if he played the bass and even a drum machine haha.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2017, 11:17:04 AM: If Yngwie sang and wrote as well as Magnus, I’d still care.
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2017, 02:14:33 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 14, 2017, 11:17:04 AM
If Yngwie sang and wrote as well as Magnus, I’d still care.

Great call.
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2017, 06:51:31 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/the-kulick-brothers-tear-up-kiss-kruise-vii

Awesome setlist! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on November 14, 2017, 09:02:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 14, 2017, 06:51:31 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/the-kulick-brothers-tear-up-kiss-kruise-vii

Awesome setlist! :metal

Yeah saw that - and out front on bass and vox is my buddy Todd Kerns.

Nowhere To Run is an all time fave of mine.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2017, 01:00:12 AM: Best KISS setlist ever?
Saw those videos the other day and wondered who the singer was. Would have enjoyed seeing that live.
I’ve always enjoyed the Kulick brothers’ playing, but VV was KISS’ best guitarist.
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2017, 04:18:09 AM: Still slowly working my way thought the podcast.

That Voodoo X I believe it was was really interesting and enjoyable.

Arena of Pleasure :metal :metal :metal I like you didn't need to say anything about this track Brent, just the name and then, boom fucking go!! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2017, 06:31:26 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 15, 2017, 04:18:09 AM
Still slowly working my way thought the podcast.

That Voodoo X I believe it was was really interesting and enjoyable.

Arena of Pleasure :metal :metal :metal I like you didn't need to say anything about this track Brent, just the name and then, boom fucking go!! :metal

:metal

Speaking of :metal an Aussie music legend died today.

RIP Malcolm Young. :-\
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Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2017, 07:43:51 AM: RIP Malcolm. Legend indeed.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 18, 2017, 11:42:11 AM: Sad news about Malcolm.

I haven't heard what's been happening with ACDC lately but I really think this should be the sign to end the band. I think one last final mega show that includes Axl and Brian, super long set list and a grand farewell would be the best option for the band. They have nothing more to prove and that would be a good tribute to Malcolm.
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Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2017, 03:21:31 AM: RIP Malcolm.
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Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2017, 03:23:25 AM: Rainbow in the Rose :metal
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Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2017, 03:43:49 AM: I have that Winters Bane album, I think the whole thing is really really good.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2017, 04:31:49 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 19, 2017, 03:23:25 AM
Rainbow in the Rose :metal

:metal

Just listening to that Greta Van Fleet that got a mention recently - not a bad listen if you're in the mood for retro Zep style stuff. Not something I would listen to often but was something different for me and so didn't mind it. Nothing mindblowing in the songwriting department but good for what it is.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2017, 08:37:41 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 19, 2017, 04:31:49 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 19, 2017, 03:23:25 AM
Rainbow in the Rose :metal

:metal

Just listening to that Greta Van Fleet that got a mention recently - not a bad listen if you're in the mood for retro Zep style stuff. Not something I would listen to often but was something different for me and so didn't mind it. Nothing mindblowing in the songwriting department but good for what it is.

I didn’t make it through a full song. As soon as the Plant style wailing started I went to get the forks to stick in my ears. Luckily, when i got to the kitchen I forgot what I went in there for 😀
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2017, 04:07:24 AM: Both the Zeno and Zinatra were very very good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2017, 08:46:24 AM: Brent- How does that reissue/remaster of Beast from the East from Dokken sound? Is it worth an upgrade?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 03:37:50 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 20, 2017, 08:46:24 AM
Brent- How does that reissue/remaster of Beast from the East from Dokken sound? Is it worth an upgrade?

I am only listening on some (very good) Swan office/PC speakers but I didn't notice any great difference other than perhaps a bit more bass and maybe a touch more punch in the drums it's one of my most listened to albums ever (as a kid) and so I'm pretty sure I would've noticed a major difference even on smaller speakers. I don't have my proper "audiophile" system set up but if I need to play it on that to notice a tiny difference then I don't really think its enough to require an upgrade.

What it does have is the missing tracks that were originally only on the cassette/vinyl and also new liner notes,photos etc... , so if you are missing those tracks on your CD then perhaps a different story. I grew up with the cassette so no real difference .
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Post by: Lowdz on November 20, 2017, 04:10:29 PM: I only have the cassette too. Never liked the mix on it at all which stops it being up there with the great live albums, but it’s years since I played it.
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2017, 05:26:33 PM: I own Beast From the East but for some reason, never really played it all that much. Should fix that.
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Post by: TAC on November 20, 2017, 07:26:40 PM: It's the only Dokken album that I bother with.
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2017, 07:30:30 PM: I think I have all of their early stuff, but dokken is one of those bands that i always grab a best of to listen to.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 07:36:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 20, 2017, 07:30:30 PM
I think I have all of their early stuff, but dokken is one of those bands that i always grab a best of to listen to.

BFTE is basically a Best Of with a bonus unreleased studio track. And the live versions have an energy that , in many cases, is missing on the studio tracks. I love it.
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Post by: TAC on November 20, 2017, 07:37:23 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 07:36:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 20, 2017, 07:30:30 PM
I think I have all of their early stuff, but dokken is one of those bands that i always grab a best of to listen to.

BFTE is basically a Best Of with a bonus unreleased studio track. And the live versions have an energy that , in many cases, is missing on the studio tracks. I love it.

I agree. I was just going to post that.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 08:29:29 PM: Europe are selling tickets for their first ever concert out here next year and their new album cannot be bought anywhere online that I can find in the country. Great promotion.
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Post by: TAC on November 20, 2017, 08:32:30 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 08:29:29 PM
Europe are selling tickets for their first ever concert out here next year and their new album cannot be bought anywhere online that I can find in the country. Great promotion.

No that actually IS great promotion. If people could actually hear the album, no one would buy tickets!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 08:38:39 PM: :rollin

Most of the people there will just be going for The Final Countdown anyway , so you're probably right :)
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 20, 2017, 10:49:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 20, 2017, 08:46:24 AM
Brent- How does that reissue/remaster of Beast from the East from Dokken sound? Is it worth an upgrade?

What it does have is the missing tracks that were originally only on the cassette/vinyl and also new liner notes,photos etc... , so if you are missing those tracks on your CD then perhaps a different story. I grew up with the cassette so no real difference .

That's good to hear, I used to own the double vinyl and always thought that I will buy the cd only if there are all the tracks on it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2017, 04:06:03 AM: Anyone listened to Icefish? Seriously bored me to tears........mostly prog for progs sake. I would take Sons of Apollo any day and I wasn't rapt in that.

Another positive new release review from your resident party pooper ;D I am saving the good ones for a podcast :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2017, 04:11:59 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 20, 2017, 07:37:23 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 07:36:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 20, 2017, 07:30:30 PM
I think I have all of their early stuff, but dokken is one of those bands that i always grab a best of to listen to.

BFTE is basically a Best Of with a bonus unreleased studio track. And the live versions have an energy that , in many cases, is missing on the studio tracks. I love it.

I agree. I was just going to post that.

Yeah, I should have stipulated studio, but yeah, for some reason I've never grabbed this cd out thinking it as a best of. Definitely will have to get it out.
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Post by: Bolsters on November 21, 2017, 05:31:57 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 21, 2017, 04:06:03 AM
Anyone listened to Icefish?
That one was a bit of a surprise. Before release I was expecting it to not be for me, but ultimately I ended up not minding it.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2017, 05:38:26 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on November 21, 2017, 05:31:57 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 21, 2017, 04:06:03 AM
Anyone listened to Icefish?
That one was a bit of a surprise. Before release I was expecting it to not be for me, but ultimately I ended up not minding it.

I actually went in it expecting to like it , so I suppose I am the opposite where this one is concerned.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2017, 06:13:06 AM: Both IceFish and SoA were highly unmemorable imo. Kinda disappointed I bought into the hype in the IceFish thread. Wasn’t worth the $9 spent.
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Post by: gazinwales on November 21, 2017, 01:29:08 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 08:29:29 PM
Europe are selling tickets for their first ever concert out here next year and their new album cannot be bought anywhere online that I can find in the country. Great promotion.

JB, Utopia, Red Eye and Sanity all have it online to order :yarr
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Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2017, 02:17:25 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on November 21, 2017, 01:29:08 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 20, 2017, 08:29:29 PM
Europe are selling tickets for their first ever concert out here next year and their new album cannot be bought anywhere online that I can find in the country. Great promotion.

JB, Utopia, Red Eye and Sanity all have it online to order :yarr

Thanks but tried em all yesterday. I have a copy but trying to buy presents for a couple of people who are going to the gig.

JB says special order around Xmas (maybe) , Sanity/Utopia out of stock.

Click on the listings and read stock situation ;)
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Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2017, 02:22:48 PM: JB is pretty much becoming special order on everything now. They use to be half decent with releases but seem to be dropping off.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2017, 05:32:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 21, 2017, 04:06:03 AM
Anyone listened to Icefish? Seriously bored me to tears........mostly prog for progs sake. I would take Sons of Apollo any day and I wasn't rapt in that.

Another positive new release review from your resident party pooper ;D I am saving the good ones for a podcast :lol

I did the preorder but I haven’t downloaded it yet. Heard the two tracks on YouTube and thought it sounded ok. I’d be very surprised if it was better than SoA as that’s up there vying for Alb7mof the Year.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2017, 06:03:10 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 21, 2017, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 21, 2017, 04:06:03 AM
Anyone listened to Icefish? Seriously bored me to tears........mostly prog for progs sake. I would take Sons of Apollo any day and I wasn't rapt in that.

Another positive new release review from your resident party pooper ;D I am saving the good ones for a podcast :lol

I did the preorder but I haven’t downloaded it yet. Heard the two tracks on YouTube and thought it sounded ok. I’d be very surprised if it was better than SoA as that’s up there vying for Alb7mof the Year.

Not sure what was on Youtube but the only tracks that survived the Skip button for me were It Begins and Human Hardware.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on November 21, 2017, 10:58:53 PM: I looked at the price of the two Evergrey re-issues, and at $37.99 and roughly the same from Amazon, no thanks.
I think it's AFM wholesale price is higher than most if not the highest, hence high retail prices.
New Japan releases are cheaper than that, says it all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2017, 04:29:20 AM: Evergrey reissues?

EDIT: Just goggled them. I have SDT so probably won't get that, but I don't have a physical copy of the Dark Discovery, so that might be worth it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on November 22, 2017, 06:45:29 AM: Yeah DD has been OOP for a long time and goes for silly prices on ebay.
I only have a CDR, so I am looking to upgrade but not at those prices.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2017, 02:57:56 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on November 22, 2017, 06:45:29 AM
Yeah DD has been OOP for a long time and goes for silly prices on ebay.
I only have a CDR, so I am looking to upgrade but not at those prices.

I have the last SDT reissue that was put out. I think it's a reissue anyway, have to have a look.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2017, 07:13:22 PM: So I really enjoyed the Victorius album from earlier this year so this caught my eye:

https://bravewords.com/news/victorius-to-release-new-ep-in-january-first-details-revealed

"Jurassic power metal. I bet you haven't heard about this before... but don't fret, Victorius are here to show you what this is about - on their upcoming EP, entitled Dinosaur Warfare - Legend Of The Power Saurus, which will be released on January 26th via Massacre Records.

You'll find all of Victorius' trademarks - a catchy and varied songwriting, the unique voice of front man David Baßin and a plethora of up-tempo power metal smashers - on this EP. The guitars deliver melodies galore, and the drums and bass hit the pedal to the metal from the very first until the last minute.

Dinosaur Warfare - Legend Of The Power Saurus was produced and mixed by Lars Rettkowitz at KR Music Studio, and mastered by Ronny Milianowicz at StudioSeven (Scanner, Eternal Fear, Lancer, etc.). The artwork was created by Stan-W Decker, who already worked for bands like Kissin' Dynamite, Masterplan and Serious Black."

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2017%20II/victorepnov.jpg)

Legend Of The Power Saurus??

WTF?? :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2017, 07:16:17 PM: Wrong thread. Take that cheese and put it where it belongs. :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2017, 07:27:50 PM: The only thing missing from that cover is an evil duck.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2017, 02:30:43 PM: From the write up it sounds like everything I hate about power metal 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 24, 2017, 03:06:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 23, 2017, 07:27:50 PM
The only thing missing from that cover is an evil duck.

Are you kidding? Dinosaurs don't stand a chance against a duck.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 27, 2017, 01:10:59 PM: A few soconds of the new Priest, sounds impressive. Bit of a waste of time but has made me more interested in it tbh so job done 😀

https://youtu.be/hMYmvJtsy6s
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 27, 2017, 04:54:13 PM: Even though its only 16 seconds of music, it's Priest and it's awesome!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2017, 05:37:06 PM: I find it hard to make any call based on them singing the album title over and over but doesn't put me off at all :) It seems to have a good production and Rob sounds in good shape.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2017, 06:27:18 PM: Sounded kind of cheesy TBH.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2017, 06:30:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 27, 2017, 06:27:18 PM
Sounded kind of cheesy TBH.

Agreed - but pretty much what I was expecting from the title track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2017, 06:32:57 PM: I'm going to last I'm there just going back to basics and knocking Us in the balls. Sounds fine to me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2017, 06:51:03 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on November 27, 2017, 06:32:57 PM
I'm going to last I'm there just going back to basics and knocking Us in the balls. Sounds fine to me.

:corn
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2017, 07:05:34 PM: Joe bringing his fat finger firepower to the thread :metal
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Post by: TAC on November 27, 2017, 07:08:39 PM: Stumpy Joe!! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2017, 04:14:48 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 27, 2017, 05:37:06 PM
I find it hard to make any call based on them singing the album title over and over but doesn't put me off at all :) It seems to have a good production and Rob sounds in good shape.

At least we know with Sneap it will have a good strong sound. That alone I'm sure will make this more enjoyable than ROS for me. Sounds strong, classic and heavy, even if it is a bit cheesy and generic, but I'll take it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 28, 2017, 10:25:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 27, 2017, 07:05:34 PM
Joe bringing his fat finger firepower to the thread :metal

Hey that’s my job in this thread >:(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2017, 02:35:41 PM: We can take fat finger firepower from all angles Paul, you're all good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2017, 04:06:55 AM: New Primal Fear album will be called Apocalypse and released mid next year.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 29, 2017, 10:24:13 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 29, 2017, 04:06:55 AM
New Primal Fear album will be called Apocalypse and released mid next year.

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2017, 11:51:14 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 29, 2017, 10:24:13 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 29, 2017, 04:06:55 AM
New Primal Fear album will be called Apocalypse and released mid next year.

:metal

(https://replygif.net/i/1532.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 29, 2017, 02:20:06 PM: What are there, like 8 guys in the band now?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2017, 02:46:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 29, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
What are there, like 8 guys in the band now?

6.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 29, 2017, 03:45:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 29, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
What are there, like 8 guys in the band now?

Nobody joined this year so that's why they called the album Apocalypse.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2017, 04:16:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 29, 2017, 03:45:00 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 29, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
What are there, like 8 guys in the band now?

Nobody joined this year so that's why they called the album Apocalypse.

WTF Brent? :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2017, 04:21:32 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 30, 2017, 04:16:27 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 29, 2017, 03:45:00 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 29, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
What are there, like 8 guys in the band now?

Nobody joined this year so that's why they called the album Apocalypse.

WTF Brent? :rollin

Just me being stupid/sarcastic - Tim was talking as if they had a new member join every 5 mins
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2017, 04:47:08 AM: Yeah, I know you were being silly, just made me laugh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2017, 06:08:04 PM: New Saxon!!

https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-premier-thunderbolt-music-video

:metal :metal

Not sure about the chorus, but otherwise very cool.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2017, 07:21:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 30, 2017, 06:08:04 PM
New Saxon!!

https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-premier-thunderbolt-music-video

:metal :metal

Not sure about the chorus, but otherwise very cool.

Didn't mind it but very "by the numbers" IMO. I enjoyed Battering Ram so hoping for another good one. This song doesn't fill me with anticipation.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2017, 07:26:37 PM: I think with bands like Accept, AC/DC, and Saxon, you pretty much know what you're going to get. My anticipation would now sway either way on an advanced track. Saxon is an automatic buy for me so it wouldn't matter anyway.

Apart from the chorus, I liked everything about that track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2017, 08:04:13 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 30, 2017, 06:08:04 PM
New Saxon!!

https://bravewords.com/news/saxon-premier-thunderbolt-music-video

:metal :metal

Not sure about the chorus, but otherwise very cool.

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2017, 08:05:18 PM: JJ Approved!

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2017, 08:24:23 PM: Can't wait to check this out when I'm not at work. I'm not expecting anything really new or over the top either, just good metal.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2017, 08:49:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 30, 2017, 08:24:23 PM
Can't wait to check this out when I'm not at work. I'm not expecting anything really new or over the top either, just good metal.

That's exactly what it is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2017, 04:47:41 AM: Hmmm....didn't knock my socks off, but definitely on par with what they have been doing. Doesn't sound as heavy as what Battering Ram did here but hopefully that's just the youtube clip. It kind of felt more old school than what they have been doing lately.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 01, 2017, 04:49:41 AM: Felt very old school. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2017, 04:54:02 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2017, 04:49:41 AM
Felt very old school. :metal

I hope it's not all like that. I was enjoying the newer heavier style.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 01, 2017, 01:03:45 PM: New Schenker!

https://bravewords.com/news/michael-schenkers-michael-schenker-fest-to-release-resurrection-album-in-march-warrior-music-video-streaming

I like it. Probably going to be the only one. Schenker sounds great. So does Robin McCauley!! Wow!

I am so pumped to see them in March. I sure hope Graham Bonnet lives until then.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2017, 04:34:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2017, 01:03:45 PM
New Schenker!

https://bravewords.com/news/michael-schenkers-michael-schenker-fest-to-release-resurrection-album-in-march-warrior-music-video-streaming

I like it. Probably going to be the only one. Schenker sounds great. So does Robin McCauley!! Wow!

I am so pumped to see them in March. I sure hope Graham Bonnet lives until then.

Pretty good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on December 01, 2017, 06:22:38 PM: sounds pretty good to me. I'm not very familiar with MSG apart from assault attack but this makes me want to hear more of his stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2017, 06:23:52 PM: Tim, what's the heaviest thing Schenker has done?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 01, 2017, 06:49:58 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 01, 2017, 06:23:52 PM
Tim, what's the heaviest thing Schenker has done?

Probably Assault Attack. It's a 1983 Martin Birch produced album with Graham Bonnet on vocals. It's easily his best sounding album. That's the 3rd of the first four original MSG albums.
After those he did the 3 albums with Robin McCauley, the second of which, Save Yourself is the heaviest of the three.

He would then continue to release albums throughout the 90's and 00's, most of which I find pretty mediocre. But the last two albums he has done with Doogie White are very good, Bridge The Gap and Spirit On A Mission. Bridge The Gap is awesome, I must say.

I would also recommend Adventures Of The Imagination (2000). It's an instrumental album but very cool.

The thing about Schenker is that he never takes on the guitar hero persona. He's more interested in writing songs than showing off, which I truly feel is a disservice.

Quote from: ozzy554 on December 01, 2017, 06:22:38 PM
sounds pretty good to me. I'm not very familiar with MSG apart from assault attack but this makes me want to hear more of his stuff.

Gonna assume you're familiar with his UFO output.

I would highly recommend MSG, from 1981. It is the 2nd MSG album, and personally, it's one of the most important albums to my musical life. features Cozy Powell on drums, and UFO's Paul Raymond. The vocalist is Gary Barden, who is also featured in the new video.

ozzy554, he's playing at Berklee in March.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 02, 2017, 04:26:33 AM: Enjoyed it. They even managed to make Barden sound ok, which takes some doing. He was terrible on the Scehker fest dvd.

McAuley is awesome, as always and tbh I’d be happier if he sang the whole thing. Bonnet and Dougie do fine though. Just leave Barden at home for the tour.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on December 02, 2017, 11:55:54 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2017, 06:49:58 PM

Quote from: ozzy554 on December 01, 2017, 06:22:38 PM
sounds pretty good to me. I'm not very familiar with MSG apart from assault attack but this makes me want to hear more of his stuff.

Gonna assume you're familiar with his UFO output.

I would highly recommend MSG, from 1981. It is the 2nd MSG album, and personally, it's one of the most important albums to my musical life. features Cozy Powell on drums, and UFO's Paul Raymond. The vocalist is Gary Barden, who is also featured in the new video.

ozzy554, he's playing at Berklee in March.

You Had me at Cozy Powell.

and of course it's in march. All the bands I currently want to see are coming in march for some reason lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2017, 03:18:20 AM: I thought AA might have been the heaviest. Those later ones with Doogie sound like something I'd be interested in also.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2017, 06:29:23 PM: What's this thread doing off the first page? ;D

I think I know someone who will be drooling over this........

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/maikelepondpawncd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 07, 2017, 06:33:21 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2017, 06:29:23 PM
What's this thread doing off the first page? ;D

It's cuz of Kev's self-indulgent polls. :lol

Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2017, 06:29:23 PM
I think I know someone who will be drooling over this........

Parama?

:rollin
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 07, 2017, 06:47:22 PM: Let's take a poll on why this thread was off page 1
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2017, 06:58:45 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2017, 06:29:23 PM
What's this thread doing off the first page? ;D

I think I know someone who will be drooling over this........

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/maikelepondpawncd.jpg)

I am the pawn in that prophecy!

Is this out yet??

Is there an actual drummer on this one? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2017, 07:01:41 PM: Michael Romeo "drumming" again and release date is 26th January.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2017, 07:13:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2017, 07:01:41 PM
Michael Romeo "drumming" again

:lol

Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2017, 07:01:41 PM
release date is 26th January.

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2017, 04:25:56 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 07, 2017, 07:01:41 PM
Michael Romeo "drumming" again and release date is 26th January.

He used a drum machine on the first album? Is that what I'm reading? :lol Get your ass back on the geetar matey!!
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2017, 01:59:41 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/anthrax-kings-among-scotland-live-dvd-confirmed-for-april-release

Looks cool.

Cover art a tribute to Kiss.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 11, 2017, 02:15:51 PM: I think this is the second live dvd in a row that Anthrax released that wasn't issued on cd. I rarely buy dvd's, but would've got the cd version of this one. Cool album cover.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2017, 02:19:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 11, 2017, 01:59:41 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/anthrax-kings-among-scotland-live-dvd-confirmed-for-april-release

Looks cool.

Cover art a tribute to Kiss.

I really like For All Kings but not much else from Anthrax gets me going like this does, so this will be a perfect release for me to try and get into them even more.
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2017, 02:23:04 PM: For All Kings is awesome!!

Yeah, JJ, I wish there was a CD.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 13, 2017, 08:53:10 AM: I see Warren Dale has died of a heart attack. RIP
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Post by: TAC on December 13, 2017, 08:56:00 AM: Oh WOW!
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Post by: ozzy554 on December 13, 2017, 11:44:39 AM: Damn. I know he wasn't looking too good recently but I wasn't expecting this. I'm more of a fan of his work with Sanctuary than Nevermore but there's no denying the man had a unique sound to him. R.I.P
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 13, 2017, 01:30:48 PM: sad news
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Post by: bl5150 on December 13, 2017, 02:12:49 PM: I think I know who you mean Paul ;)

Sad to hear this - another key voice from my childhood gone. I was never big into Nevermore but did have some Sanctuary. I will feature something from the recent demo album in the Best of 2017 show.

RIP.
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2017, 02:53:59 PM: Holy shit! WTF?!! Oh man, I am a huge Nevermore fan so this has hit me for a six. What the hell, 48!? OMG!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 13, 2017, 02:59:18 PM: Given my age vs his (surely has to be greater than 4-5 years) I very much doubt he was only 48yo Kade. I know that's what is being reported but I just have a feeling it's wrong.

That would make him 16 or 17 when Sanctuary released their demo in 1986.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 13, 2017, 03:32:22 PM: and 17 or 18 when I saw Sanctuary in 1988. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2017, 03:59:38 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 13, 2017, 02:59:18 PM
Given my age vs his (surely has to be greater than 4-5 years) I very much doubt he was only 48yo Kade. I know that's what is being reported but I just have a feeling it's wrong.

That would make him 16 or 17 when Sanctuary released their demo in 1986.

That thought did go through my head as he formed Sanctuary in what 84, 85?! But yeah, given the shocking news, I didn't think much more of it.
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2017, 04:00:30 PM: Wiki has his birth year as 61, making him 56 which seems right. Still so damn young though.

Weird how 48 is written in the reports.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 13, 2017, 07:38:54 PM: The Heart Collector would be my favorite tune from Nevermore. That was the best album that I heard from them as well.

His performance on Refuge Denied is unreal though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 13, 2017, 07:57:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 13, 2017, 02:12:49 PM
Sad to hear this - another key voice from my childhood gone. I was never big into Nevermore but did have some Sanctuary. I will feature something from the recent demo album in the Best of 2017 show.

Never big into either of the bands, so I don't really have much to say other than RIP.

But I am very much looking forward to the Best of '17 show. I just last week got around to (almost) finishing the last podcast. Thoughts of the last 2 hours:

White Sister - Breaking All The Rules... damn, this sounded fine.
White Sister- Restless Heart (unreleased 3rd album demo)... it sure sounded like a demo!
The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again... Rarity??? This is regularly a Top 10 of all-time classic rock song.

Widowmaker - Reason To Kill ... very nice. Might investigate more
Wild Dogs - Streets Of Berlin ... this was quite excellent too. Nice screamy vox
Wild Horses - The Riversong

Wildside - Clock Strikes ... pretty decent.
Winger - Rainbow In The Rose... I know TAC rocked out to this one.
Winter Rose - I'll Never Fall In Love Again... love that album. Glam + Young James = gold baby, GOLD!
Waysted - Land That Lost Love... meh

Winter's Bane - Heart of a Killer ... killer tune - I think JJ gave it to me in a roulette. :metal
Whitesnake - Guilty of Love ... great early W/S
Xenon - Lay Me Down

XYZ - High Life (demo)
Y&T - Mean streak - excellent, of course
Zar - Spellbound-Hellbound

Zebra - Tell Me What You Want - excellent, of course.
Zeno- Walking On A Thin Line... good, but I wasn't wow'd
Zinatra - Two Sides of Love... lovin this

The feature album was very nice ... and the influences were indeed VERY noticeable. Just gotta say, Ben is the best. You're ok too Brent, but the youngling rocks it.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 13, 2017, 08:12:55 PM: Thanks Chad.......I did say a few times that I would be sprinkling some big name classics in among the rarities and The Who was one of those. Incidentally The Who (a couple of tunes aside) are very rarely heard out here on radio. If I wasn't a reader of guitar mags as a kid I wouldn't have known who Pete Townsend was. I think the first time I really noticed one of their songs was when VH covered Won't Get Fooled Again :lol

Glad for the feedback on X-Sinner - surprised it didn't get any other comments.

Re Best of 2017 I have spent the last 2-3 months listening to pretty much nothing but 2017 and following up all the notes I have made throughout the year. I have just finished a 600 song "smart playlist" of 2017 songs that I rated pretty high and cut that right back. Now putting it all through a second filter. Got some cross checking to do etc......but I have just uploaded my first few songs into the software.

It's by far the biggest show of the year to put together but the process has started. Hopefully something by late Jan I reckon at this stage.

I will pass on your compliments to Ben :'( :D
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2017, 09:40:04 PM: Not an ACDC fan, so I didn't give the X-Sinner much of a chance, but it sounded like I'd enjoy them more than ACDC.

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 13, 2017, 07:38:54 PM
The Heart Collector would be my favorite tune from Nevermore. That was the best album that I heard from them as well.

His performance on Refuge Denied is unreal though.

Dead Heart is definitely a highlight, but it took a long time to grow but I think Godless Endeavor would be my fav, that's just a monster of an album. This is really shocking news.

The Heart Collector is a massive song mate, lots of songs on that album are immense.
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Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2017, 04:29:55 AM: Have you had a listen to the new Almanac yet Brent? I haven't but interested to see what they can back up the first one with.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 14, 2017, 04:36:14 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 14, 2017, 04:29:55 AM
Have you had a listen to the new Almanac yet Brent? I haven't but interested to see what they can back up the first one with.

Yes I have. It's a pretty good album but basically an inferior copy of the first for the most part. And I am a bit positively biased toward my mate Victor ;D

I was disappointed with it - sounds a bit rushed to me vs the original. Second album blues maybe - I expect the next one will be better.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 14, 2017, 12:29:59 PM: :iagree:

Don't know about the 'rushed' part, but I'm definitely finding a few bands lately with a killer debut fail to live up to that standard with their sophomore release. Anthriel was another from this year. Both were pretty good albums, but just didn't have that same wow-factor as the first album. Ditto with Serious Black last year.
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Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2017, 01:45:36 PM: I think when you have something new that's half decent it tends to up the excitement level. A followup is never going to be as anticipated or perhaps fresh sounding than the first one. Or it might be highly anticipated but it's like the excitement when you open a present but then as time goes on, it's still a good useful product but you're not as excited about it as you were when you were opening the present in the first place.
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2017, 02:08:22 PM: I thought you guys all way overrated the last Almanac album.
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Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2017, 02:21:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 14, 2017, 02:08:22 PM
I thought you guys all way overrated the last Almanac album.

I didn't rate it as highly but it's was pretty good. Not something I come back to a lot, but it's quite strong.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 14, 2017, 03:00:31 PM: Feel free to post some Top 5's or 10's or whatever in here ...............just to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious. And yes Tim - I am aware of Cellador :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2017, 03:05:02 PM: I'll come up with a top 10, but it's pretty pedestrian, and I don't think we'll post anything that you've missed Brent haha.
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2017, 04:21:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 14, 2017, 03:00:31 PM
Feel free to post some Top 5's or 10's or whatever in here ...............just to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious. And yes Tim - I am aware of Cellador :biggrin:
:lol

:metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2017, 06:32:12 PM: Here's one of my favorites of the year:

(https://metalrock.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/The-Silent-Wedding-Enigma-Eternal-2017.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2017, 06:36:35 PM: ...and this just came out, but I'm totally digging it:

(https://www.knac.com/IMAGES/COVERS/defecto_nemesis.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 14, 2017, 06:39:56 PM: I like The Silent Wedding too Tim - not sure how it will fare in the final standings but will likely make the Top Whatever It Turns Out To Be.

Quite a unique voice on the singer that might please some and annoy others.

In the end though , this year has mostly come down to finding artists that aren't just dialling it in. This year's show will likely be a bit more diverse for that reason - I have searched a little wider than normal , even though 90%+ still is very much hard rock/metal.

Re Defecto I introduced a few people to them in roulettes and last year's Best of 2016 show. I found that album disappointing relative to the debut , so check that one out if you haven't already. They need a producer too - pretty muddy sound. I thought they would really knock it out of the park but I think they raced a bit to get the second album out there inside of a year.
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Post by: TAC on December 14, 2017, 06:44:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 14, 2017, 06:39:56 PM
Re Defecto I introduced a few people to them in roulettes and last year's Best of 2016 show. I found that album disappointing relative to the debut , so check that one out if you haven't already. They need a producer too - pretty muddy sound. I thought they would really knock it out of the park but I think they raced a bit to get the second album out there inside of a year.

Huh..I guess I wasn't paying attention. I will check out the debut. I just stumbled upon Nemesis last week, but I really like it.
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Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2017, 08:02:32 PM: Haven't heard either but both great covers.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 15, 2017, 04:29:21 AM: I'd say my top 10 (not in order) would be shaping up like this:

Threshold - Legends of the Shire
Stamina - System of Power
Night Flight Orchestra - Amber Galactic
Mindmaze - Resolve
Pyramaze - Contingent
Daydream XI - The Circus of the Tattered and Torn
Eagleheart - Reverse
Jorn - Life on Death Road
Prospekt - The Illuminated Sky
Arthemis - Blood | Fury | Domination
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Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2017, 04:38:33 AM: Thanks Chad.........a few of those will be getting some airplay.

Not a bad lineup..........

(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/mastersofrock-2018.jpg)
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Post by: Lowdz on December 15, 2017, 01:18:14 PM: The best of this year for me,

Sons of Apollo - Psychotic Symphony

Savage Messiah - Hands Of Fate

Threshold - Legends of the Shires

MindMaze - Resolve

Pyramaze - Contingent

Vuur - In This Moment

Midnite City - s/t

Vandenbergs Moonkings - Mk II

Fire Strike - Slaves Of Fate

Jack Starr’s Burning Starr - Stand Your Ground

Fiction Syxx - Tall Dark Secrets

Midnight sin - One Last Ride

Europe - Walk The Earth

Dirty White Boyz - s/t
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 15, 2017, 01:22:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 15, 2017, 01:18:14 PM
Jack Starr’s Burning Starr - Stand Your Ground

Yes! :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 15, 2017, 01:23:25 PM: I tried both those 'Midnight' albums at your mention of them. Can't remember which was which, but one was great, and one sucked. :lol Whichever was the 'soft' one... that sucked (imo).

Tim would even say it blew if he listened.
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Post by: TAC on December 15, 2017, 01:27:15 PM: Midnight City is such a cheesy name. I haven't heard it.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 15, 2017, 02:23:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 15, 2017, 01:27:15 PM
Midnight City is such a cheesy name. I haven't heard it.

It is. And it is. But I enjoyed it all the same. When it came up in the car I found I didn’t skip it.
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2017, 02:30:05 PM: If I had to come up with 10 for the year.....

Trivium - The Sin and the Sentence
Firewind - Immortals
Pyramaze - Contingent
Iced Earth - Incorruptible
Dragonforce - Reaching Into Infinity
Dream Evil - Six
The Ferrymen - The Ferrymen
Accept - The Rise of Chaos
The Night Flight Orchestra - Amber Galactic
Kreator - Gods of Violence

That's in no order. I've only listened to the Threshold twice very recently but I'd be confident to almost chuck that in too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 15, 2017, 05:59:34 PM: I was very pleasantly surprised at how good the Dream Evil is/was. Top 20 material for sure. Firewind I was expecting something a bit better, but it's still quality. Ditto with Ferrymen - I had pretty high expectations there.
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Post by: TAC on December 15, 2017, 07:29:20 PM: Brent, did you sample this?

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3281329167_10.jpg)

Not the most original, but I found it to be of decent quality and definitely enjoyable.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2017, 08:26:51 PM: I believe I did sample Tim , but didn't decide to go ahead with the whole album. There is truckloads of decent power metal around and so I tend to be pretty ruthless when it sounds samey.

Will revisit it and sample a couple more songs.
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Post by: TAC on December 15, 2017, 08:29:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 15, 2017, 08:26:51 PM
There is truckloads of decent power metal around and so I tend to be pretty ruthless when it sounds samey.

Yup. Very true. But every now and then something seems to poke out from the crowd. I've enjoyed numerous listens to this this year.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2017, 06:10:02 PM: New Voodoo Circle

https://youtu.be/DL52B6I_r2w

I like Herbie and think he sounds okay for the band but the song is just the umpteenth variation on Bad Boys.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2017, 06:54:49 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 16, 2017, 06:10:02 PM
New Voodoo Circle

https://youtu.be/DL52B6I_r2w

I like Herbie and think he sounds okay for the band but the song is just the umpteenth variation on Bad Boys.

No kidding!
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Post by: TAC on December 16, 2017, 07:07:28 PM: Inevitable:
https://bravewords.com/news/gene-simmons-sued-by-tv-radio-broadcaster-for-unwanted-unwarranted-sexual-advances

I posted this in the Weinstein thread, not that I want to bring that cnversation here....
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Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2017, 03:36:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 16, 2017, 06:10:02 PM
New Voodoo Circle

https://youtu.be/DL52B6I_r2w

I like Herbie and think he sounds okay for the band but the song is just the umpteenth variation on Bad Boys.

Despite this as you said a blatant ripoff, I actually think this is really really good. New fella sounds better than that other song he re-recorded a while back. Thought I'd miss Readman but I like what this guy is doing here. Alex's guitar playing hasn't worked for me lately, but he sounds pretty inpired here for some reason.
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Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2017, 03:59:57 AM: Continuing on how I mentioned the Threshold earlier, when I was at a JB on Saturday I surprisingly saw it instore and picked it up. I'd like more songs like the rocking opener, but it's a really good album. Would be interesting to have heard it with Damian.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 18, 2017, 09:51:19 PM: Just checked out the new Pretty Boy Floyd - the first 2 songs was more than enough :lol And 15 songs on the album -yikes. A free Ben'n'Brent officially licensed shirt - "the kingshmegland T-shit" - for anyone who can get through the lot without hitting Skip.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 18, 2017, 10:03:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 18, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
Just checked out the new Pretty Boy Floyd - the first 2 songs was more than enough :lol And 15 songs on the album -yikes. A free Ben'n'Brent officially licensed shirt - "the kingshmegland T-shit" - for anyone who can get through the lot without hitting Skip.

I'll get thru it without hitting Play. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 18, 2017, 10:03:38 PM: :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 19, 2017, 01:07:09 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 18, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
Just checked out the new Pretty Boy Floyd - the first 2 songs was more than enough :lol And 15 songs on the album -yikes. A free Ben'n'Brent officially licensed shirt - "the kingshmegland T-shit" - for anyone who can get through the lot without hitting Skip.

Who's better Brent, Pretty Boy Floyd or Ugly Kid Joe?
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Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2017, 04:04:23 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 18, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
Just checked out the new Pretty Boy Floyd - the first 2 songs was more than enough :lol And 15 songs on the album -yikes. A free Ben'n'Brent officially licensed shirt - "the kingshmegland T-shit" - for anyone who can get through the lot without hitting Skip.

Don't know any Pretty Boy Floyd, but that sounds like a challenge I'd be stupid enough to take up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 19, 2017, 05:26:36 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 19, 2017, 01:07:09 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 18, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
Just checked out the new Pretty Boy Floyd - the first 2 songs was more than enough :lol And 15 songs on the album -yikes. A free Ben'n'Brent officially licensed shirt - "the kingshmegland T-shit" - for anyone who can get through the lot without hitting Skip.

Who's better Brent, Pretty Boy Floyd or Ugly Kid Joe?

I'll take Ugly Kid Joe :)

Is this Crimson Glory reincarnated as a wuss band ?

https://youtu.be/jePDKJydZxs

;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 19, 2017, 08:35:11 AM: The wuss meter is high on that one. It blows!!!
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Post by: TAC on December 19, 2017, 09:07:46 AM: Holy shit. I got through 45 seconds. What The F'n F is that.

Is it OK to call something gay these days? Because that was f%#king gay! *

*No offence meant to actual gay people.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 19, 2017, 10:58:48 AM: I bought the first Pretty Boy Floyd album and hated it. Made Poison sound like Mozart.

I sampled a track from the new one and it was basically a copy of Sabbath’s Never Say Die, but shit.
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Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2017, 02:37:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 19, 2017, 05:26:36 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 19, 2017, 01:07:09 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 18, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
Just checked out the new Pretty Boy Floyd - the first 2 songs was more than enough :lol And 15 songs on the album -yikes. A free Ben'n'Brent officially licensed shirt - "the kingshmegland T-shit" - for anyone who can get through the lot without hitting Skip.

Who's better Brent, Pretty Boy Floyd or Ugly Kid Joe?

I'll take Ugly Kid Joe :)

Is this Crimson Glory reincarnated as a wuss band ?

https://youtu.be/jePDKJydZxs

;D

What the fucking fuck is this horseshit!? I'm already having a shit day and you just made it worse and it's only 7:30am!! >:(

20 seconds of that video makes me want to punch someone.
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Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2017, 02:38:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 19, 2017, 09:07:46 AM
Holy shit. I got through 45 seconds. What The F'n F is that.

Is it OK to call something gay these days? Because that was f%#king gay! *

*No offence meant to actual gay people.

No offense either as I voted yes in our recent political poll, but even fucking gay people would be like, 'fucks that's some gay shit.'
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Post by: TAC on December 19, 2017, 02:52:50 PM: :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 19, 2017, 03:28:39 PM: It's great to see Kade is so passionate about gay music ;D
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Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2017, 03:41:58 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 19, 2017, 03:28:39 PM
It's great to see Kade is so passionate about gay music ;D

Damn right, Judas Priest!! :metal ;D

(jk, I love you Rob)
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Post by: TAC on December 22, 2017, 02:20:11 PM: Merry Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypL5-mDCzY

:lol
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Post by: Lowdz on December 22, 2017, 05:23:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 22, 2017, 02:20:11 PM
Merry Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypL5-mDCzY

:lol

Wtf did I do to deserve that 😱. Guess I’m still on the naughty list
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Post by: TAC on December 22, 2017, 05:26:22 PM: :lol

So bad.
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Post by: TAC on December 22, 2017, 06:08:46 PM: So I'm listening to the Defender's 30th Anniversary edition tonight, the live show from Long Beach, which is all kinds of :metal

Anyway, I'm not up on my JP guitarists' styles to tell them apart, but who is mixed in my right ear, and who is in my left? Kade?
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 22, 2017, 09:16:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 22, 2017, 05:26:22 PM
:lol

So bad.

I lasted longer in Scaul's roulette than I did with that link.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2017, 09:25:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 22, 2017, 02:20:11 PM
Merry Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypL5-mDCzY

:lol

Merry Kipmas :metal

(https://s31.postimg.org/wpkuprkzv/timxmas.jpg)

I'm not sure how much I'll be around over the weekend so while I think of it............thanks everyone for helping to keep me sane during 2017 with your musical knowledge/discussion , humour and just being cool dudes :metal All the best for Xmas and a nice, heavy 2018.

As far as 2017 goes for music I set myself the challenge back around August/September to put together some sort of collection of quality music released this year. I thought it might be an impossible task based on what I had heard to that point but hundreds of hours of research and listening later and I think I have really come up with plenty of great, lesser known stuff. I am not sure of the format that any podcast/s will take at this point but I can pretty much guarantee that everyone will discover something they like.
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Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2017, 12:12:49 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 22, 2017, 06:08:46 PM
So I'm listening to the Defender's 30th Anniversary edition tonight, the live show from Long Beach, which is all kinds of :metal

Anyway, I'm not up on my JP guitarists' styles to tell them apart, but who is mixed in my right ear, and who is in my left? Kade?

KK is the left and Glenn on the right Tim. Thats the way Priest have always rolled. Im out so posting on my phone to confirm this one is indeed mixed that way but looking at the set, these credits will confirm;

Jawbreaker is KK
Metal Gods is Glenn
Rock Hard first is KK and second is Glen
Electric Eye is Glenn
Freewheel Burning is Glenn

Glenn plays overall a lot more solos than KK.
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Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2017, 12:21:04 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 22, 2017, 09:25:59 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 22, 2017, 02:20:11 PM
Merry Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypL5-mDCzY

:lol

Merry Kipmas :metal

(https://s31.postimg.org/wpkuprkzv/timxmas.jpg)

I'm not sure how much I'll be around over the weekend so while I think of it............thanks everyone for helping to keep me sane during 2017 with your musical knowledge/discussion , humour and just being cool dudes :metal All the best for Xmas and a nice, heavy 2018.

As far as 2017 goes for music I set myself the challenge back around August/September to put together some sort of collection of quality music released this year. I thought it might be an impossible task based on what I had heard to that point but hundreds of hours of research and listening later and I think I have really come up with plenty of great, lesser known stuff. I am not sure of the format that any podcast/s will take at this point but I can pretty much guarantee that everyone will discover something they like.

Merry Kipmas fuck yeah!!

Enjoy your weekend Brent, thanks for an awesome 2017 and your podcasts are unreal and much appreciated.

Love all you fellas really and enjoy the holidays. I wish we could all get together in person and have a drink and enjoy some metal. Sucks we are all so far away from each other.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 23, 2017, 05:03:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 23, 2017, 12:12:49 AM
Quote from: TAC on December 22, 2017, 06:08:46 PM
So I'm listening to the Defender's 30th Anniversary edition tonight, the live show from Long Beach, which is all kinds of :metal

Anyway, I'm not up on my JP guitarists' styles to tell them apart, but who is mixed in my right ear, and who is in my left? Kade?

KK is the left and Glenn on the right Tim. Thats the way Priest have always rolled. Im out so posting on my phone to confirm this one is indeed mixed that way but looking at the set, these credits will confirm;

Jawbreaker is KK
Metal Gods is Glenn
Rock Hard first is KK and second is Glen
Electric Eye is Glenn
Freewheel Burning is Glenn

Glenn plays overall a lot more solos than KK.

I always remember it as Glenn plays the good stuff and KK makes noise and does Blues licks 😀
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Post by: Lowdz on December 23, 2017, 05:05:19 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 23, 2017, 12:21:04 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 22, 2017, 09:25:59 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 22, 2017, 02:20:11 PM
Merry Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypL5-mDCzY

:lol

Merry Kipmas :metal

(https://s31.postimg.org/wpkuprkzv/timxmas.jpg)

I'm not sure how much I'll be around over the weekend so while I think of it............thanks everyone for helping to keep me sane during 2017 with your musical knowledge/discussion , humour and just being cool dudes :metal All the best for Xmas and a nice, heavy 2018.

As far as 2017 goes for music I set myself the challenge back around August/September to put together some sort of collection of quality music released this year. I thought it might be an impossible task based on what I had heard to that point but hundreds of hours of research and listening later and I think I have really come up with plenty of great, lesser known stuff. I am not sure of the format that any podcast/s will take at this point but I can pretty much guarantee that everyone will discover something they like.

Merry Kipmas fuck yeah!!

Enjoy your weekend Brent, thanks for an awesome 2017 and your podcasts are unreal and much appreciated.

Love all you fellas really and enjoy the holidays. I wish we could all get together in person and have a drink and enjoy some metal. Sucks we are all so far away from each other.

I’ll second that. Merry Christmas and happy new year to you dudes.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 23, 2017, 05:37:51 AM: Merry Christmas to all the coolest dudes of DTF. You're all on my bucket list of DTF'rs to meet. JJ is the next most likely to be scratched off the list, as my job just might take me to Winterpeg sometime in the not-so-distant future. In the meantime, all we can do is rock on, and have a virtual tip of the glass... or in my case, cup of coffee.

*clink*

Super looking forward to the B&B 2017 wrap up podcast... I had to force myself to limit the exploration to 15 albums after the 2016 year-end podcast. Expect I'll have a similar dilemma this year. Still have a couple from the last podcast on the 'check it out' list.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 23, 2017, 06:06:05 AM: Have a Metal Christmas and a Head Banging New Year!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2017, 03:32:49 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 23, 2017, 05:03:36 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 23, 2017, 12:12:49 AM
Quote from: TAC on December 22, 2017, 06:08:46 PM
So I'm listening to the Defender's 30th Anniversary edition tonight, the live show from Long Beach, which is all kinds of :metal

Anyway, I'm not up on my JP guitarists' styles to tell them apart, but who is mixed in my right ear, and who is in my left? Kade?

KK is the left and Glenn on the right Tim. Thats the way Priest have always rolled. Im out so posting on my phone to confirm this one is indeed mixed that way but looking at the set, these credits will confirm;

Jawbreaker is KK
Metal Gods is Glenn
Rock Hard first is KK and second is Glen
Electric Eye is Glenn
Freewheel Burning is Glenn

Glenn plays overall a lot more solos than KK.

I always remember it as Glenn plays the good stuff and KK makes noise and does Blues licks 😀

KK is a very competent guitarist but, its hard to argue with that to a certain degree.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2017, 06:04:34 PM: Thanks Kade!

I remember the Defenders tour. I didn't go, but that came in the spring of 1984. I actually saw Van Halen in March of 1984. (interesting TAC Fact: VH played two nights in Providence, March 17 & 18th. I saw the second show on the 18th. Though I would not meet her until 1996, it turns out The Future Lovely Mrs. TAC saw the show on the 17th!).
Anyway, my parents wouldn't' let me go to both shows, and VH was the clear priority. Once we got VH tix, JP was out. VH was only my 3rd concert, as I was 15 at the time. A friend of mine who didn't get VH tix went to JP instead and tried telling me how much better JP was. Sore loser!! Great White opened the Defenders show here.

Anyway, as I was listening to this today,

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81C2uaukG0L._SL1500_.jpg)

...I was thinking a lot about those days. Even though this Dio live album is from 1993, I was thinking about how much of my high school years were dominated by Ronnie Dio. I saw The Last In Line tour in August of '84 (Twisted Sister opened). I mean, I remember listening to the local Metal radio show when they premiered the Holy Diver album. The played Stand Up And Shout and Straight Through The Heart. I'll never forget that.

Anyway, while I was listening, I was thinking how much I missed Dio in my musical life. I graduated in 1986, and listening to Dio really helped to make those years special. I just can't count how many times, we'd be hanging at the beach or cruising around blasting Dio.

Which brings me to 1993 Dio. After Lock Up The Wolves, the Dio camp went silent. I figured he found a great young guitarist in Rowan, and the must be working on something great. A couple years later, I see Strange Highways on an Import List. WTF?? A new album from Dio? Not even released in the US?? Strange Highways has a buch of really cool songs, but the rest is kind of ho hum. But of course compared to Angry Machines, it's a masterpiece. But who the F is Traci G? And what kind of F'n name is Traci G?? I thought he blew. He was even a huge step down from Craig Goldie, and that's saying something.
Listening to Live In London, he absolutely butchers the beautiful solo from Holy Diver, as well as the underrated solo from Mob Rules. What a f'n mess. But this is still a high energy performance and a cool album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2017, 06:23:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 22, 2017, 09:25:59 PM

Merry Kipmas :metal

(https://s31.postimg.org/wpkuprkzv/timxmas.jpg)

Gee, thanks to you, I going to be celebrating Hannukah instead. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2017, 08:29:19 PM: Headed for a Hannukah :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2017, 04:07:23 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 23, 2017, 08:29:19 PM
Headed for a Hannukah :metal

:rollin

Speaking of Dio live Tim, I always liked Inferno. I liked what Tracy G did with some of those solos. Completely different, but I'm open to it.

I can't remember much from the Live in London, but I think I liked what he did on that one too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 24, 2017, 05:27:23 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 23, 2017, 08:29:19 PM
Headed for a Hannukah :metal

She's only sevenstein?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 24, 2017, 05:45:52 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 24, 2017, 05:27:23 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 23, 2017, 08:29:19 PM
Headed for a Hannukah :metal

She's only sevenstein?

:clap: :clap: :clap:

:rollin

You guys never disappoint. I love you guys. I mean I hate you guys, but I love you guys!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 25, 2017, 08:49:23 PM: Preordered Saxon's Thunderbolt today! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 25, 2017, 09:44:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 25, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
Preordered Saxon's Thunderbolt today! :metal

:metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 25, 2017, 11:43:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 25, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
Preordered Saxon's Thunderbolt today! :metal

Merry fucking Christmas!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2017, 07:16:08 AM: So over the last many years, I've kind of looked at what Whitesnake has done and completely scoffed. The notion that Coverdale parades a bunch of jamokes around playing old stuff from the 70's and 80's has to me, seemed quite boorish.

Anyway, I saw this link on Bravewords this morning:
https://bravewords.com/news/whitesnake-release-official-video-for-burn-from-the-purple-tour-live

And thought, WTF? A live album of Deep Purple stuff? C'mon. But since I have absolutely nothing to do, I clicked the video. Well the video blew, but the audio was ....... :metal
Damn, it was a great hard rock spin on Burn. I actually really liked it. Has Tommy Aldridge, cool. And I'm sorry, Michele Luppi should be fronting his own band. He is an amazing vocalist. But damn, he's playing some pretty nice keyboards.

Looking at the setlist, a modern hard rock version of these tracks sounds inviting.

What do you guys think??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 26, 2017, 07:36:32 AM: I think Michelle Luppi is fronting his own band - Secret Sphere. Plus, mid-2000s Vision Divine
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2017, 07:38:19 AM: Oh, I know him from Vision Divine.

Secret Sphere? I think I had also heard that. I may have them Saved on Spotify. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 26, 2017, 07:45:49 AM: Portrait of a Dying Heart - you need it in your life. Their recent live release was pretty good too. I only spun The Nature of Time a couple of times. Might have to do that this week.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2017, 07:51:24 AM: I have The Nature Of Time Saved. I'll go through their Artist Page.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2017, 02:42:48 PM: I only have Scent for a Human Desire which is pretty killer. Yet to check out Portrait and I though Nature of Time was pretty crap and weak.

I'll have to check out that Whitesnake later. I haven't really followed what he's doing with this release. Seems to have been a few pointless Whitesnake releases lately that I just have lost track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 26, 2017, 02:48:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2017, 07:16:08 AM
So over the last many years, I've kind of looked at what Whitesnake has done and completely scoffed. The notion that Coverdale parades a bunch of jamokes around playing old stuff from the 70's and 80's has to me, seemed quite boorish.

Anyway, I saw this link on Bravewords this morning:
https://bravewords.com/news/whitesnake-release-official-video-for-burn-from-the-purple-tour-live

And thought, WTF? A live album of Deep Purple stuff? C'mon. But since I have absolutely nothing to do, I clicked the video. Well the video blew, but the audio was ....... :metal
Damn, it was a great hard rock spin on Burn. I actually really liked it. Has Tommy Aldridge, cool. And I'm sorry, Michele Luppi should be fronting his own band. He is an amazing vocalist. But damn, he's playing some pretty nice keyboards.

Looking at the setlist, a modern hard rock version of these tracks sounds inviting.

What do you guys think??

Like latter day Whitesnake, it’s killed by the vocals. The metalizing works but Coverdale is just too old to sing it now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 26, 2017, 03:08:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 26, 2017, 02:42:48 PM
I only have Scent for a Human Desire which is pretty killer. Yet to check out Portrait and I though Nature of Time was pretty crap and weak.

I wouldn't be that harsh towards it, but there surely was a reason I haven't gone back to it much. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2017, 03:12:02 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 26, 2017, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 26, 2017, 02:42:48 PM
I only have Scent for a Human Desire which is pretty killer. Yet to check out Portrait and I though Nature of Time was pretty crap and weak.

I wouldn't be that harsh towards it, but there surely was a reason I haven't gone back to it much. ;)

Just had no balls, too soft for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2017, 03:19:00 PM: The 2015 re-recording of A Time Never Come is my most played of theirs I think - followed by Heart and Anger.

Tha Nature of Time blows ;D (although I did quite like Track 10 - The Awakening .....but by then it was far too late to save much)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2017, 07:10:49 PM: Tim Gaines a little bit pissed off :lol

https://demonszone.com/2017/12/26/strypers-oz-fox-talks-former-bassist-tim-gaines-replies/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2017, 08:01:43 PM: "When he was sleeping with his current wife on our tour bus, or moving in with her before they were married?"

:omg:

Wow! Talk about ripping a guy! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2017, 08:10:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2017, 08:01:43 PM
"When he was sleeping with his current wife on our tour bus, or moving in with her before they were married?"

:omg:

Wow! Talk about ripping a guy! :lol

You can just imagine their road stories. "And remember that time when Oz forgot to say grace before we tucked into some ham sandwiches......oh man!"
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2017, 08:19:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 26, 2017, 08:10:02 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2017, 08:01:43 PM
"When he was sleeping with his current wife on our tour bus, or moving in with her before they were married?"

:omg:

Wow! Talk about ripping a guy! :lol

You can just imagine their road stories. "And remember that time when Oz forgot to say grace before we tucked into some ham sandwiches......oh man!"

Hey, that already sounds more interesting then Bruce Dickinson's book.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 26, 2017, 08:39:25 PM: Tim, I know you've mentioned a few times about Bruce's book and it not being very good. Have you finished it yet? It's surprising that it was pretty boring, I would have figured it to be filled with great stories. I think I'll pass on that one regardless.

And this Stryper feud is getting out of control!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2017, 08:43:45 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 26, 2017, 08:39:25 PM
Tim, I know you've mentioned a few times about Bruce's book and it not being very good. Have you finished it yet? It's surprising that it was pretty boring, I would have figured it to be filled with great stories. I think I'll pass on that one regardless.

No I haven't finished it. I actually lost interest. But please don't pass on it based on anything I say. Lots of people around here have enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2017, 08:59:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2017, 08:01:43 PM
"When he was sleeping with his current wife on our tour bus, or moving in with her before they were married?"

:omg:

Wow! Talk about ripping a guy! :lol

Fuck me, how does he live with himself!! :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2017, 02:06:02 PM: Third part of Blaze Bayley's trilogy coming on 2nd March. Second one was a big step up from the first so should be interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 27, 2017, 02:19:46 PM: It looks like Joey Tempest has come out to Australia in advance of the tour to see the sights, belt come cops...... :D

(https://s18.postimg.org/x39g1z7a1/joey.png)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2017, 03:34:51 PM: Can't say I thought that when I saw it on the news a couple of days ago Brent, but now that you mention it. :lol

Gotta love Australia!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 27, 2017, 03:42:52 PM: He'd never make it in Stryper.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2017, 12:02:00 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 27, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
He'd never make it in Stryper.

:lol

Just listening to the new album from Eisley/Goldy. I had read some pretty scathing reviews and decided it can't be all that bad. Well.........it's pretty bad :lol

I think they're trying hard to get that epic House of Lords/Giuffria vibe but for the most part it falls flat. Eisley ain't what he used to be either.

Anyone else heard it or am I taking one for the team? :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2017, 04:08:14 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 28, 2017, 12:02:00 AM
Quote from: TAC on December 27, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
He'd never make it in Stryper.

:lol

Just listening to the new album from Eisley/Goldy. I had read some pretty scathing reviews and decided it can't be all that bad. Well.........it's pretty bad :lol

I think they're trying hard to get that epic House of Lords/Giuffria vibe but for the most part it falls flat. Eisley ain't what he used to be either.

Anyone else heard it or am I taking one for the team? :D

I think I may have sampled a song from memory and it was shit.

Something will surely hit the mark in 2018. 2018 will be the year Frontiers has a resurgence, I can feel it...... :mehlin

Oh, and Brent, you're always taking one for the team mate. Might as well bend over for a 2018 crapfest now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2017, 04:19:56 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 27, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
He'd never make it in Stryper.

I pretty much fired a guy today, so I think if Oz leaves, I have no chance.

EDIT: Wait, just remembered I farted in public and I think someone heard me, yeah no chance.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2017, 05:00:10 AM: I have actually been shocked with how much good stuff I have turned up from 2017 Kade - you just need to spend half your life digging and you'll be fine ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2017, 05:33:52 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 28, 2017, 05:00:10 AM
I have actually been shocked with how much good stuff I have turned up from 2017 Kade - you just need to spend half your life digging and you'll be fine ;D

While I don't want to dedicate 1/2 my life, you're right...I completely agree - there is good stuff out there. Of the four recent ones on my list to (finally) check out, 2 were excellent; 1 was decent enough with a couple of great tracks; 1 was meh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 28, 2017, 11:19:21 AM: Listening to Gaines, there’s hope for me in joining Stryper. And I’m an atheist :)

And Brent, not checked out the Goldy Eisley but did listen to the first single. It was poor and Eisley’s voice wasn’t great. Expected more as I like Goldy’s playing and I like Eisley in Dirty White Boys.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 28, 2017, 02:54:10 PM: I tend to be critical of Russel Allen not “singing “ enough in SC. Just seen this video of him singing for TSO. Simply stunn8ng vocal. Hairs stood on end. Not on my head of course - haven’t got any left 😀 but you get the idea.

https://youtu.be/o_TIR_Lq3rk
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 28, 2017, 03:22:12 PM: That man can definitely sing. :tup
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2017, 03:59:52 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 28, 2017, 05:00:10 AM
I have actually been shocked with how much good stuff I have turned up from 2017 Kade - you just need to spend half your life digging and you'll be fine ;D

hahaha. You're right thought Brent, I've spent literally zero time looking for stuff this year, just checking the bands I know obviously and moving on. So figures I haven't found anything really good.

That's why I'm really looking forward to your podcast. Saying that though, perhaps I shouldn't listen and hold out a couple more months for my roulette. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2017, 04:00:41 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 28, 2017, 02:54:10 PM
I tend to be critical of Russel Allen not “singing “ enough in SC. Just seen this video of him singing for TSO. Simply stunn8ng vocal. Hairs stood on end. Not on my head of course - haven’t got any left 😀 but you get the idea.

https://youtu.be/o_TIR_Lq3rk

Is this a secret band of Russel's I've never heard of?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 28, 2017, 06:04:21 PM: Symphony Chaos :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on December 28, 2017, 06:37:14 PM: STOP MAKING FUN OF THE BEST ALBUM EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

CHEERS

CHAOSYSTEM
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2017, 06:39:57 PM: I have no IDEA who YOU are TALKING about.

Now let's make some setlists that make no sense...
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2017, 04:12:54 AM: *re-enters thread*
*reads the last two posts*
*closes thread*
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2017, 12:36:56 PM: What? :lol

Let's make a Saxon setlist based on their EVEN numbered albums. Time LIMIT is 4 hours.
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2017, 03:15:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 29, 2017, 12:36:56 PM
What? :lol

Let's make a Saxon setlist based on their EVEN numbered albums. Time LIMIT is 4 hours.

Are you okay Tim?

You know, I probably couldn't do that accurately because I'm 100% familiar with everything Saxon from Killing Ground forward but there is a lot of the older stuff I still don't really know.
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2017, 03:30:06 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 29, 2017, 03:15:42 PM

Are you okay Tim?

:lol

Just pulling a Chaossystem.. Every time he started a new setlist thread I literally wanted to reach into the computer and punch him. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2017, 03:33:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 29, 2017, 03:30:06 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 29, 2017, 03:15:42 PM

Are you okay Tim?

:lol

Just pulling a Chaossystem.. Every time he started a new setlist thread I literally wanted to reach into the computer and punch him. :lol

:rollin Of course. I'm with you now, what you and Brent were on about totally didn't click, duh! :facepalm:
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Post by: bl5150 on December 29, 2017, 07:41:55 PM: Nice WORK Tim. :)
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2017, 07:51:22 PM: Happy Birthday Cozy Powell. RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o1URvOH0DU
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Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2017, 04:01:40 PM: Such an amazing drummer. RIP.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2017, 07:35:00 PM: All the best for 2018 guys - we're approaching mid afternoon here on NYE so I'm not all that early.

This week I have discovered another 25 albums that I missed for 2017 ::) - anything found after this very second is considered 2018 :lol

Chad has posted a few nice 2017 releases in the album thread in recent days.

Ben also wished everyone a "rocking 2018"
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2017, 07:40:57 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2017, 07:35:00 PM
Chad has posted a few nice 2017 releases in the album thread in recent days.

I try to do my part. I think it would take the collective lot of me, TAC, Lowdz, and Kade to keep up with you. I'd include JJ, but he just rotates the same 60 or 70 albums in and out of his CD player - he hasn't discovered anything new since Bush was President and Chretien was PM! :lol

Ya know, it's kinda cool that we've got 250+ pages here, but it's pretty much just 7 or 8 guys that hang in this thread. :jingleboy:
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2017, 08:22:20 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2017, 07:35:00 PM
Chad has posted a few nice 2017 releases in the album thread in recent days.

I try to do my part. I think it would take the collective lot of me, TAC, Lowdz, and Kade to keep up with you. I'd include JJ, but he just rotates the same 60 or 70 albums in and out of his CD player - he hasn't discovered anything new since Bush was President and Chretien was PM! :lol

Ya know, it's kinda cool that we've got 250+ pages here, but it's pretty much just 7 or 8 guys that hang in this thread. :jingleboy:

lol

That's very true about rotating the same cd's over and over and not discovering anything new. That's the way I like it, but it's 1000 cds, so there is still some variety.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2017, 08:41:50 PM: And I just did a quick glance, but it looks like The Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread just might be in the lead for most pages in the General Music section at 254 pages!!! Congrats boys.
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Post by: TAC on December 30, 2017, 08:54:47 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 30, 2017, 08:22:20 PM

That's very true about rotating the same cd's over and over and not discovering anything new. That's the way I like it, but it's 1000 cds, so there is still some variety.

1000 "Best Of" CD! :lol

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
Ya know, it's kinda cool that we've got 250+ pages here, but it's pretty much just 7 or 8 guys that hang in this thread. :jingleboy:
And it's cool that everyone has Green status. Says a lot about the guys here.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2017, 09:04:24 PM: Oh by the way, today in Winnipeg it was -34 celsius, or -29 Fahrenheit. With the wind chill it was -45 celsius or -49 Fahrenheit.

Can the Aussie boys even comprehend those temperatures lol

There is no question I can handle cold weather better than anyone on this forum, but even I will say that today was beyond insanity.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 30, 2017, 09:52:32 PM: No I cannot comprehend those temps at all Jay..........I have barely felt any negative celsius temps in my life. No doubt the extremes we get are more at the other end , my hottest being (in my home town) around 49 degrees celsius (120 F) with 100km/h winds from the desert making it feel much hotter than that.

We certainly get some variety in Melbourne - known for our "4 seasons in one day". We are all over the place at the moment -heatwave one minute , cold (20C) and flooding the next. Ben and I got flooded/evacuated out of bloody Star Wars a couple of weeks ago :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2017, 04:23:57 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 30, 2017, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2017, 07:35:00 PM
Chad has posted a few nice 2017 releases in the album thread in recent days.

I try to do my part. I think it would take the collective lot of me, TAC, Lowdz, and Kade to keep up with you. I'd include JJ, but he just rotates the same 60 or 70 albums in and out of his CD player - he hasn't discovered anything new since Bush was President and Chretien was PM! :lol

Ya know, it's kinda cool that we've got 250+ pages here, but it's pretty much just 7 or 8 guys that hang in this thread. :jingleboy:

lol

That's very true about rotating the same cd's over and over and not discovering anything new. That's the way I like it, but it's 1000 cds, so there is still some variety.

And every fucking one rocks! 1000 rocking cd's works for me :metal

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 30, 2017, 08:41:50 PM
And I just did a quick glance, but it looks like The Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread just might be in the lead for most pages in the General Music section at 254 pages!!! Congrats boys.

:metal

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 30, 2017, 09:04:24 PM
Oh by the way, today in Winnipeg it was -34 celsius, or -29 Fahrenheit. With the wind chill it was -45 celsius or -49 Fahrenheit.

Can the Aussie boys even comprehend those temperatures lol

There is no question I can handle cold weather better than anyone on this forum, but even I will say that today was beyond insanity.

In Brisbane in the middle of winter the lowedt we get is like 4 or 5 degrees celcius which is nothing. I pretty much wear shorts all year. The last couple of days here has been about 35 degrees, very warm.

Happy New Years fellas!!
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Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2017, 04:25:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 30, 2017, 07:35:00 PM
All the best for 2018 guys - we're approaching mid afternoon here on NYE so I'm not all that early.

This week I have discovered another 25 albums that I missed for 2017 ::) - anything found after this very second is considered 2018 :lol

Chad has posted a few nice 2017 releases in the album thread in recent days.

Ben also wished everyone a "rocking 2018"

Happy New Years to you and Ben Brent.

And 25 albums in a week?? :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2017, 04:36:39 AM: Im at my gf's this weekend but i went to the city this weekend and did a bit of a random haul at the second hand record exchange which i will share tomorrow night when im home. Havent stepped foot in there for a good few years. I took a punt on pretty much all these but some of the bands have been brought to my attention to you guys on here. Im hoping i havent wasted my cash, but been a while since my last solid haul so it was fun nevertheless. Tune in tomorrow to find out what i got. Dont expect anything too exciting though. :rollin
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 31, 2017, 05:46:39 AM: ^ Coolio. Lookin forward to it.

Jay... sometimes I wish I could limit my music exploration. In my teens and 20s, I *knew* all my music. I would spend time with the lyric sheets, and really spend a lot of time with a limited number of bands and albums. Now, I've turned into a complete whore, and will try pretty much any prog or metal album. It was really bad a couple of years ago... now I limit myself to about 2-3 tracks on an album, and if I'm not wow'd, it gets shelved. Sometimes, I wish I could stop, and just spend time with the music that is in my library.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 31, 2017, 06:29:35 AM: Happy New Years boys!!
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Post by: Lowdz on December 31, 2017, 10:45:08 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 31, 2017, 05:46:39 AM
^ Coolio. Lookin forward to it.

Jay... sometimes I wish I could limit my music exploration. In my teens and 20s, I *knew* all my music. I would spend time with the lyric sheets, and really spend a lot of time with a limited number of bands and albums. Now, I've turned into a complete whore, and will try pretty much any prog or metal album. It was really bad a couple of years ago... now I limit myself to about 2-3 tracks on an album, and if I'm not wow'd, it gets shelved. Sometimes, I wish I could stop, and just spend time with the music that is in my library.

I was the same. Back then you could do it. At best there would be 4-5 releases a week I’d want to get. Now there’s hundreds. Anyone can make an album in their bedroom these days and it shows. If I had any patience I’d have a go.

It’s needle in a haystack to find anything worth putting time and effort into. Plus, there isn’t 5he pressure of having already spent money on something before trying it and it makes it too easy to shelve stuff that doesn’t jump out.

There were several very good albums in 2017 but I’m not sure there’s much that will become classic chez Lowdz.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 31, 2017, 02:31:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 31, 2017, 10:45:08 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 31, 2017, 05:46:39 AM
^ Coolio. Lookin forward to it.

Jay... sometimes I wish I could limit my music exploration. In my teens and 20s, I *knew* all my music. I would spend time with the lyric sheets, and really spend a lot of time with a limited number of bands and albums. Now, I've turned into a complete whore, and will try pretty much any prog or metal album. It was really bad a couple of years ago... now I limit myself to about 2-3 tracks on an album, and if I'm not wow'd, it gets shelved. Sometimes, I wish I could stop, and just spend time with the music that is in my library.

I was the same. Back then you could do it. At best there would be 4-5 releases a week I’d want to get. Now there’s hundreds. Anyone can make an album in their bedroom these days and it shows. If I had any patience I’d have a go.

It’s needle in a haystack to find anything worth putting time and effort into. Plus, there isn’t 5he pressure of having already spent money on something before trying it and it makes it too easy to shelve stuff that doesn’t jump out.

There were several very good albums in 2017 but I’m not sure there’s much that will become classic chez Lowdz.

Agree with all that. Because I spend so long at home in front of a PC (and have that stubborn streak when it comes to a huge challenge in an area I am passionate about) I figure that I have the best chance of any of us to find these needles and so I put in the huge amounts of time required to do a half decent job , but each year it seems to get harder and harder. I am still not sure what I will do in 2018 - if I attempt it again it'll possibly a be case of spending the first 6 months on classics + my huge list of titles I already know are a good shot and then (like this year) a big cram in the second half of the year on current year releases.

Life would be so much easier if I could just be content with the classics :lol There were so many more filters in place "back in the day" - if you were totally shit you normally would struggle to get a record deal , the good record stores would often filter out a lot of the crap and get in stuff that had some "buzz" amongst those in the know etc...
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Post by: Lowdz on December 31, 2017, 02:39:54 PM: Exactly. It’s not a good thing that any old thing gets put out there now. Labels were evil, but a necessary one to separate the worthy from the average. But we have you for that Brent and bless you for it pal :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2017, 03:21:39 PM: Over the last 12 to 18 months I have become the exact opposite to be honest. For some reason i have lost interest in discovering new stuff because everything pretty much leaves me saying 'meh.' So I gotta say, Im expecting some big things from you guys in my roulette in a couple of months.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 31, 2017, 08:16:49 PM: Challenge accepted.
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Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2017, 09:12:15 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 31, 2017, 08:16:49 PM
Challenge accepted.

:metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2018, 04:02:21 AM: So my little random off the cuff haul consists of;

Altaria - Divintity
Altaria - Invitation
Balance of Power - Heathenology (2CD/DVD)
Ian Parry's Consortium Project - Self titled
Elegy - Lost
Elegy - State of Mind
Steel Prophet - Dark Hallucinations
Tad Morose - Undead
DGM - Synthesis (CD/DVD)
Eluveitie - Origins
Black Sabbath - The End DVD

Altaria is Jani Liimatainen's old band so took a punt there. Elegy obviously Brent got me going on then and cool to get both one of the older albums and the Ian Parry albums. CP I know Chad loves and I do have one of their albums already but didn't do much for me at the time so I just thought why not.

The Eluveitie is not for you guys but absolutely loved the song Tim was sent in his roulette which made me want to get the album just for that. Balance of Power Jon sent me one of their tracks in my roulette which was a ripper. Tad Morose I think I remember Brent playing one of their tracks in one of his podcasts which I thought was quite good. has Urban Breed who I never heard of before Brent brought him up in here so thought it's worth a shot. DGM I don't know any of their old stuff so this DVD and CD best of is a perfect way to help rectify that. Steel Prophet I have no idea who they are but they looked metal so took a big punt.

Will take me a while to get through these as time is tight.
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Post by: Bolsters on January 01, 2018, 05:27:45 AM: I don't know that Eluveitie album but I have a couple of their others. Good stuff.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 01, 2018, 05:57:37 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 01, 2018, 04:02:21 AM
CP I know Chad loves and I do have one of their albums already but didn't do much for me at the time so I just thought why not.

Steel Prophet I have no idea who they are but they looked metal so took a big punt.

The 1st Consortium Project album is pretty good (has Stephen Lill on guitars for several tracks), but albums 4 and 5 in the pentalogy are where it's at for me. I took a flyer on a Steel Prophet album once too (Book of the Dead). Not bad, but wasn't all that memorable. I'd be interested to hear your opinion on this one. Same with the Synthesis DVD... I've had that on my 'do want' list for a while.
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Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2018, 02:10:15 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 01, 2018, 05:57:37 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 01, 2018, 04:02:21 AM
CP I know Chad loves and I do have one of their albums already but didn't do much for me at the time so I just thought why not.

Steel Prophet I have no idea who they are but they looked metal so took a big punt.

The 1st Consortium Project album is pretty good (has Stephen Lill on guitars for several tracks), but albums 4 and 5 in the pentalogy are where it's at for me. I took a flyer on a Steel Prophet album once too (Book of the Dead). Not bad, but wasn't all that memorable. I'd be interested to hear your opinion on this one. Same with the Synthesis DVD... I've had that on my 'do want' list for a while.

Just googled the other CP album I have and it's number 3. Saw Lill features heavily on this first one, which is good. Funny you mention both the Steel Prophet and the DGM, as the guy chucked them both in for free so no loss. It was like a buy 3 get one free deal or something so those two and another cost nothing so all good.
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Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2018, 02:12:00 PM: I'm about three songs into the Lost from Elegy and I'm really liking this band.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 01, 2018, 02:20:05 PM: Altaria is have some good stuff but are very hit and miss. Same with Consortium Project.

I bought Book of the Dead by a Steel Prophet too and had 5he same opinion as chad. Couldn’t tell you anything about it.

DGM are pretty good.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 01, 2018, 03:49:20 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 01, 2018, 02:10:15 PM
Just googled the other CP album I have and it's number 3.

I remember that #3 was the one you had, and thus wasn't surprised you were luke-warm on it/them. That one is my least fave of the pentalogy.
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Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2018, 03:50:09 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 01, 2018, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 01, 2018, 02:10:15 PM
Just googled the other CP album I have and it's number 3.

I remember that #3 was the one you had, and thus wasn't surprised you were luke-warm on it/them. That one is my least fave of the pentalogy.

Hopefully this debut that I got can breathe some new life into it for me.
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Post by: wolfking on January 02, 2018, 04:19:44 AM: This State of Mind from Elegy is pretty enjoyable too. The production is pretty muddy but I'm digging it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 02, 2018, 05:50:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 02, 2018, 04:19:44 AM
This State of Mind from Elegy is pretty enjoyable too. The production is pretty muddy but I'm digging it.

One of the better ones with Ian Parry on the mic. Forbidden Fruit is my favorite Parry/Elegy album.
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2018, 03:16:25 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 02, 2018, 05:50:16 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 02, 2018, 04:19:44 AM
This State of Mind from Elegy is pretty enjoyable too. The production is pretty muddy but I'm digging it.

One of the better ones with Ian Parry on the mic. Forbidden Fruit is my favorite Parry/Elegy album.

I might end up checking them all out, good stuff.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2018, 03:32:43 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 03, 2018, 03:16:25 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 02, 2018, 05:50:16 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 02, 2018, 04:19:44 AM
This State of Mind from Elegy is pretty enjoyable too. The production is pretty muddy but I'm digging it.

One of the better ones with Ian Parry on the mic. Forbidden Fruit is my favorite Parry/Elegy album.

I might end up checking them all out, good stuff.

As Chad knows I really struggled with the post-Henk stuff..................Henk basically WAS Elegy in my eyes and I didn't think that Rondat wrote much in the way of decent songs (as is often the case with instrumental artists that join established bands :lol ) For me the last great Elegy album was State of Mind.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 03, 2018, 03:38:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 03, 2018, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 03, 2018, 03:16:25 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 02, 2018, 05:50:16 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 02, 2018, 04:19:44 AM
This State of Mind from Elegy is pretty enjoyable too. The production is pretty muddy but I'm digging it.

One of the better ones with Ian Parry on the mic. Forbidden Fruit is my favorite Parry/Elegy album.

I might end up checking them all out, good stuff.

As Chad knows I really struggled with the post-Henk stuff..................Henk basically WAS Elegy in my eyes and I didn't think that Rondat wrote much in the way of decent songs (as is often the case with instrumental artists that join established bands :lol ) For me the last great Elegy album was State of Mind.

I hear ya there. Manifestation of Fear is tripe... skip that one Kade. I really like Forbidden Fruit, and Principles of Pain is mostly so-so.
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2018, 04:10:51 PM: Yeah, I can hear that Brent with Henk. You can really hear is style and influence between these two albums even with the change of singer.

I'll have a listen to all of them at some stage. Lost however is getting plenty of spins and the cd sounds great too, really great album. I don't think anything will top LOD though. I will have to get a physical copy of that one I think.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 04, 2018, 02:01:34 PM: Short Clip from the new Judas Priest song. About as cliched a bit of power metal as you could find 😖

https://youtu.be/FhnAH-YupLI
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 04, 2018, 03:39:49 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 04, 2018, 02:01:34 PM
Short Clip from the new Judas Priest song. About as cliched a bit of power metal as you could find 😖

https://youtu.be/FhnAH-YupLI

and I wouldn't expect anything less lol :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2018, 04:05:39 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 04, 2018, 02:01:34 PM
Short Clip from the new Judas Priest song. About as cliched a bit of power metal as you could find 😖

https://youtu.be/FhnAH-YupLI

The groove at the end of the clip sounds killer.

Looks like the full song is on youtube also. I'll listen tomorrow if it's official.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2018, 07:19:46 AM: For Jay.

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/AE7ZF/happy-birthday/image.jpg?w=400&c=1)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2018, 07:48:03 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Art on January 05, 2018, 11:44:19 AM: New Priest makes me happy. They can be as cliche as the want, they can pull it off. :metal
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2018, 03:54:43 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 05, 2018, 07:19:46 AM
For Jay.

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/AE7ZF/happy-birthday/image.jpg?w=400&c=1)

It's JJ's Birthday?

Nice, Happy Birthday, brother! :metal :metal :metal

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/48/f9/1b/48f91b80ad7416f5a7df6f5ac7513a33.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2018, 04:02:17 PM: Thanks Tim!!!

Usually I only accept Ric Flair pictures, but I will gladly accept an Iron Maiden :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2018, 04:31:30 PM: Happy Birthday J!!! Have a rocking one mate! :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2018, 04:51:33 PM: Thanks Wolfster!
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Post by: bl5150 on January 05, 2018, 05:52:18 PM: Another year to add to the tally Jay and you're looking a bit older. ;D

Heavy Birthday :metal

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cc/51/b1/cc51b1015f40351c0ff4ec3f9bb552e2.gif)
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Post by: Lowdz on January 05, 2018, 05:58:21 PM: Happy birthday JJ. You’re catching us fogeys up 😀 not

Jeez, reminds me I’ll be 50 in a few weeks. 😖
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2018, 06:31:19 PM: Thanks brothers!!
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2018, 06:39:48 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 05, 2018, 05:58:21 PM
Jeez, reminds me I’ll be 50 in a few weeks. 😖

Old bastard. At least I can enjoy 49 for nine more months.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 06, 2018, 03:25:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2018, 06:39:48 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 05, 2018, 05:58:21 PM
Jeez, reminds me I’ll be 50 in a few weeks. 😖

Old bastard. At least I can enjoy 49 for nine more months.

Hope you enjoy 49 more than I did 😀
I had three months off work with a vertigo thing and currently on crutches with a dislocated and fractured toe. So much fun getting old 🙁
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 06, 2018, 03:37:15 AM: Ha, reading this you make me feel young at 47 1/2. :biggrin:

Oh, and Happy Birthday JJ :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 06, 2018, 08:55:05 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 06, 2018, 09:34:00 AM: From Ralf Scheeper's FB page

https://www.facebook.com/ralfscheepersofficial/videos/10156003843967480/?hc_ref=ARSDwre06hTFV1U9bd1aqJKtl1KqbDn5r6f60rfamyhD_WeeXGh1LNcwxkei7kDVYHI

Giggity.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 06, 2018, 09:54:21 AM: It's pretty impressive when only 10 seconds of an album is played and you know the whole thing will rock.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2018, 03:35:01 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 06, 2018, 09:34:00 AM
From Ralf Scheeper's FB page

https://www.facebook.com/ralfscheepersofficial/videos/10156003843967480/?hc_ref=ARSDwre06hTFV1U9bd1aqJKtl1KqbDn5r6f60rfamyhD_WeeXGh1LNcwxkei7kDVYHI

Giggity.

What the hell, doesn't sound like PF at all...............
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2018, 03:39:12 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 06, 2018, 03:25:41 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2018, 06:39:48 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 05, 2018, 05:58:21 PM
Jeez, reminds me I’ll be 50 in a few weeks.

Old bastard. At least I can enjoy 49 for nine more months.

Hope you enjoy 49 more than I did
I had three months off work with a vertigo thing and currently on crutches with a dislocated and fractured toe. So much fun getting old

Wow, I know what you're going through here. Stay strong Paul, you'll get through it. About 3 years ago dunno if I posted much about it here (I probably did) but I was in the gym and wasn't watching when I pulled a 20kg weight off the rack at chest height when for some reason I didn't have hold of it. It slammed side on like a guillotine on my left big two and smashed it to pieces and made it flat as a pancake.

Had surgery to pin it together and was in a silly heel boot thing for like eight weeks. Had another surgery to remove the pins then two weeks later put too much pressure on it one day at work and re-fractured it. Back in the boot for like another month. I can't curl the toe now as it's permanetly fused. Still have trouble with it from time to time now.

My advice Paul, when it's healed still go very very easy, they are small fragile bones and care must be taken. All the best.

EDIT: Brent's certainly had his fair share of lengthy lower limb injuries also. We all have so much in common!!!
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Post by: bl5150 on January 07, 2018, 07:48:29 AM: Get well Paul.

Speaking of Priest .........it seems Chris Tsangarides has passed away.

RIP Chris,. :hefdaddy
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Post by: Lowdz on January 07, 2018, 08:35:54 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 07, 2018, 07:48:29 AM
Get well Paul.

Speaking of Priest .........it seems Chris Tsangarides has passed away.

RIP Chris,. :hefdaddy

Cheers gents.

And yes, just came here to post this. Legendary producer.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 07, 2018, 08:44:48 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2018, 03:39:12 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 06, 2018, 03:25:41 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2018, 06:39:48 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 05, 2018, 05:58:21 PM
Jeez, reminds me I’ll be 50 in a few weeks.

Old bastard. At least I can enjoy 49 for nine more months.

Hope you enjoy 49 more than I did
I had three months off work with a vertigo thing and currently on crutches with a dislocated and fractured toe. So much fun getting old

Wow, I know what you're going through here. Stay strong Paul, you'll get through it. About 3 years ago dunno if I posted much about it here (I probably did) but I was in the gym and wasn't watching when I pulled a 20kg weight off the rack at chest height when for some reason I didn't have hold of it. It slammed side on like a guillotine on my left big two and smashed it to pieces and made it flat as a pancake.

Had surgery to pin it together and was in a silly heel boot thing for like eight weeks. Had another surgery to remove the pins then two weeks later put too much pressure on it one day at work and re-fractured it. Back in the boot for like another month. I can't curl the toe now as it's permanetly fused. Still have trouble with it from time to time now.

My advice Paul, when it's healed still go very very easy, they are small fragile bones and care must be taken. All the best.

EDIT: Brent's certainly had his fair share of lengthy lower limb injuries also. We all have so much in common!!!

That sounds a damn site worse than I did Kade 😱. Ouch.
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2018, 08:52:00 AM: Yeah, Kade, I remember you being laid up.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 07, 2018, 10:42:22 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 07, 2018, 08:52:00 AM
Yeah, Kade, I remember you being laid up.

Ditto... don't think we knew it required multiple surgeries though.
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2018, 11:31:41 AM: Maybe if you guys didn't kick so much ass, you wouldn't keep breaking your toes! :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on January 07, 2018, 12:37:16 PM: Nice one Tim :biggrin: :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2018, 01:39:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 07, 2018, 08:52:00 AM
Yeah, Kade, I remember you being laid up.

Quote from: jingle.boy on January 07, 2018, 10:42:22 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 07, 2018, 08:52:00 AM
Yeah, Kade, I remember you being laid up.

Ditto... don't think we knew it required multiple surgeries though.

Yeah, it was really nasty actually, there was a chance it had to be amputated, it was as flat as a pancake. Probably didn't go into it in all detail as I don't like to carry on and make a huge deal, I just get on with it. I was back at work a couple of days after surgery and back in the gym doing upper body within a week. There's millions more people that were in worst situations in their life so that's the way I look at things. Wasn't ideal but I hate being idle.

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Jeez, reminds me I’ll be 50 in a few weeks.

Old bastard. At least I can enjoy 49 for nine more months.

Hope you enjoy 49 more than I did
I had three months off work with a vertigo thing and currently on crutches with a dislocated and fractured toe. So much fun getting old

Wow, I know what you're going through here. Stay strong Paul, you'll get through it. About 3 years ago dunno if I posted much about it here (I probably did) but I was in the gym and wasn't watching when I pulled a 20kg weight off the rack at chest height when for some reason I didn't have hold of it. It slammed side on like a guillotine on my left big two and smashed it to pieces and made it flat as a pancake.

Had surgery to pin it together and was in a silly heel boot thing for like eight weeks. Had another surgery to remove the pins then two weeks later put too much pressure on it one day at work and re-fractured it. Back in the boot for like another month. I can't curl the toe now as it's permanetly fused. Still have trouble with it from time to time now.

My advice Paul, when it's healed still go very very easy, they are small fragile bones and care must be taken. All the best.

EDIT: Brent's certainly had his fair share of lengthy lower limb injuries also. We all have so much in common!!!

That sounds a damn site worse than I did Kade 😱. Ouch.

yeah mate, wasn't pleasant, keep focused on the recovery and you'll get there mate, every day will get easier and knowing the end is a day closer each day helps.

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Get well Paul.

Speaking of Priest .........it seems Chris Tsangarides has passed away.

RIP Chris,. :hefdaddy

Damn, WTF? What a legendary producer. RIP.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2018, 06:36:57 PM: Just posting here as a public service so that you guys get something other than "Your favorites.............." showing in your unread posts.

Fucking hell :lol

(https://s18.postimg.org/qosfg8x2x/favors.png)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 09, 2018, 08:06:48 PM: So I came across this song..

Rock And Roll City by the um...Death Keepers (:neverusethis:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOxpvuumyVM

I thought, WTF? But this song actually put a smile on my face. Has an 80's Schenker/Scorpions feel.

I fully expect you guys to tell me it blows! :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2018, 08:19:09 PM: It blows.........

Cellador away ;D

I don't mind that , especially for a band called Death Keeper :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2018, 10:50:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 09, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
So I came across this song..

Rock And Roll City by the um...Death Keepers (:neverusethis:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOxpvuumyVM

I thought, WTF? But this song actually put a smile on my face. Has an 80's Schenker/Scorpions feel.

I fully expect you guys to tell me it blows! :rollin

This really blows Tim.

I haven't clicked on it though, I will later on. ;D

Quote from: bl5150 on January 09, 2018, 06:36:57 PM
Just posting here as a public service so that you guys get something other than "Your favorites.............." showing in your unread posts.

Fucking hell :lol

(https://s18.postimg.org/qosfg8x2x/favors.png)

Yeah, I don't get what's going on here lately with all these to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on January 09, 2018, 10:59:33 PM: It bothers me that they aren't in the Polls/Survivors section instead of General Music.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2018, 01:33:33 AM: I don't even look at them anymore
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2018, 04:32:44 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on January 09, 2018, 10:59:33 PM
It bothers me that they aren't in the Polls/Survivors section instead of General Music.

Legit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2018, 05:30:50 AM: I don't mind that they're in the Music Discussion forum. I think they are designed to inspire conversation. Unfortunately it ends up more often than not with people simply listing the songs they picked.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 10, 2018, 05:48:51 AM: It screams "look at my posts... please!?!?!"
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 10, 2018, 05:53:24 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 10, 2018, 05:48:51 AM
It screams "look at my posts... please!?!?!"

This.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2018, 05:58:30 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 10, 2018, 05:48:51 AM
It screams "look at my posts... please!?!?!"

Huh.. I've never thought of it that way. That really never occurred to me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 10, 2018, 07:19:21 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2018, 05:58:30 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 10, 2018, 05:48:51 AM
It screams "look at my posts... please!?!?!"

Huh.. I've never thought of it that way. That really never occurred to me.

You ever go to a dinner party and force a topic of conversation on people? 15 times? Or do you just normally let conversation happen? The dude - whether consciously or not - is ultimately exerting control of discussion ... his at his whims. Seems he either has control issues, or worthiness issues (come and discuss these multitude of topics of my choosing).

But whatevs... we all have the choice to click the threads or not - I choose "not". I'm just mildly annoyed that he's got so many, he's pushing aside other discussion threads.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on January 10, 2018, 07:55:26 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 10, 2018, 07:19:21 AM
I'm just mildly annoyed that he's got so many
That's what got to me aswell. At first I figured it was just going to be a couple and thought "whatever, maybe it'll get people talking about something". But now it seems to be an ongoing thing and they really shouldn't be in posted in General.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2018, 09:25:15 AM: Thats why I lock myself into The Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabillia Thread and rarely leave.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 10, 2018, 11:59:37 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 10, 2018, 09:25:15 AM
Thats why I lock myself into The Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabillia Thread and rarely leave.

Wait, there’s other threads?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2018, 12:31:26 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/kiss-berate-reporter-for-wearing-iron-maiden-t-shirt-it-doesn-t-show-respect-you-re-in-our-house-says-paul-stanley-video

WTF??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 10, 2018, 12:34:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2018, 12:31:26 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/kiss-berate-reporter-for-wearing-iron-maiden-t-shirt-it-doesn-t-show-respect-you-re-in-our-house-says-paul-stanley-video

WTF??

Seems a bit ridiculous. I’d have thought better of Paul. Gene maybe.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2018, 12:36:22 PM: Kiss comes across as major pricks in this one.

Who cares what the guy is wearing. You can tell they are trying to come across as half joking, but are totally serious.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2018, 12:39:32 PM: Hey Gene, the jerkstore called.
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Post by: TAC on January 10, 2018, 12:42:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 10, 2018, 12:36:22 PM
You can tell they are trying to come across as half joking, but are totally serious.

Totally.

Quote from: Lowdz on January 10, 2018, 12:34:36 PM
I’d have thought better of Paul.

Me too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2018, 02:25:35 PM: Good job ganging up on a journo fellas, jeez. The journo handled himself really well though.

Paul needs to be careful, lay off the donuts a little mate.

Quote from: TAC on January 09, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
So I came across this song..

Rock And Roll City by the um...Death Keepers (:neverusethis:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOxpvuumyVM

I thought, WTF? But this song actually put a smile on my face. Has an 80's Schenker/Scorpions feel.

I fully expect you guys to tell me it blows! :rollin

Yeah, sorry Tim.......next!?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2018, 06:48:38 PM: Cool interview with Tony Carey. Talks about the Rainbow days.

https://goodtimesrock.ru/?page_id=1707
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2018, 07:56:59 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 10, 2018, 02:25:35 PM

Yeah, sorry Tim.......next!?

This is what I just sent to Train Of Naught in his roulette:
Lor-Eidolon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVKVNp5fNcw

Not sure if you'd like it, but I LOVE this album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2018, 09:50:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2018, 07:56:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 10, 2018, 02:25:35 PM

Yeah, sorry Tim.......next!?

This is what I just sent to Train Of Naught in his roulette:
Lor-Eidolon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVKVNp5fNcw

Not sure if you'd like it, but I LOVE this album.

Thinking I should hold off, for roulette purposes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2018, 05:33:01 AM: Another big name gone - Fast Eddie R.I.P.

I have never been a Motorhead fan at all but didn't mind a bit of Fastway. Either way it's sad to be losing so many of these guys each year now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 11, 2018, 12:30:10 PM: Saw that. Liked early Motörhead but didn’t listen to anything after Iron Fist. I wasn’t a huge fan but loved No Sleep TIL Hammersmith. No point saying RIP where Motörhead are concerned 😀

Here’s the new band with Frontiers. I like the guy’s voice but the song is bland.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IdPPCv5UETI
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 11, 2018, 06:47:48 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 10, 2018, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2018, 07:56:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 10, 2018, 02:25:35 PM

Yeah, sorry Tim.......next!?

This is what I just sent to Train Of Naught in his roulette:
Lor-Eidolon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVKVNp5fNcw

Not sure if you'd like it, but I LOVE this album.

Thinking I should hold off, for roulette purposes.

Eh, go ahead and check it out. I don't think it's really your thing, and I wouldn't send it I'm your roulette anyway.

Quote from: bl5150 on January 11, 2018, 05:33:01 AM
Another big name gone - Fast Eddie R.I.P.

I have never been a Motorhead fan at all but didn't mind a bit of Fastway. Either way it's sad to be losing so many of these guys each year now.

The entire classic Motorhead lineup is gone. My first major Christmas haul when I was a kid included No Sleep.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 11, 2018, 07:06:15 PM: Are there any Children Of Bodom fans here?
Reason I ask here is, I searched and couldn't find a dedicated COB thread.
i could have sworn there was one?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2018, 07:58:08 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 11, 2018, 07:06:15 PM
Are there any Children Of Bodom fans here?
Reason I ask here is, I searched and couldn't find a dedicated COB thread.
i could have sworn there was one?

Yeah bro, I thought there was one too. Big fan. Although not so much of their latest stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 11, 2018, 08:07:43 PM: I was pretty much the same as you, but their last release 'I Worship Chaos' was a pretty good return to form.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2018, 08:34:15 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 11, 2018, 08:07:43 PM
I was pretty much the same as you, but their last release 'I Worship Chaos' was a pretty good return to form.

I wouldn't say a return to form, but I didn't mind it either, it was definitely a step up from the few before it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 11, 2018, 09:40:37 PM: While I don't think it even touches the first 4 Bodom albums, it's pretty decent.
What's your fave COB?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2018, 09:45:51 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 11, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
While I don't think it even touches the first 4 Bodom albums, it's pretty decent.
What's your fave COB?

Gotta be FTR mate. It changes between that, Hatecrew and Hatebreeder but I think Reaper is my go to album from them. It use to be Hatecrew but these days I'd say Reaper. The debut was one that I never really got into as much as the next three either for some reason. I am a big fan of AYDY also, I think that's a fabulous album.

Just be prepared mate, we might cop it for talking about a growly band in this thread. These pansies can't handle them. :lol ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on January 11, 2018, 09:49:19 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 11, 2018, 07:06:15 PM
I searched and couldn't find a dedicated COB thread.
This one? (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=36265.0) Though it's pretty old and not linked in the band index thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2018, 12:45:29 AM: There is only 6 postings allowed a year in this thread that discusses growlie shit.

Sorry boys, you're 2018 quota is done for the year. 2019 you can continue that COB conversation.

Man new Judas Priest and Saxon coming up right away! :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 12, 2018, 02:03:04 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 11, 2018, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on January 11, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
While I don't think it even touches the first 4 Bodom albums, it's pretty decent.
What's your fave COB?

Gotta be FTR mate. It changes between that, Hatecrew and Hatebreeder but I think Reaper is my go to album from them. It use to be Hatecrew but these days I'd say Reaper. The debut was one that I never really got into as much as the next three either for some reason. I am a big fan of AYDY also, I think that's a fabulous album.

Just be prepared mate, we might cop it for talking about a growly band in this thread. These pansies can't handle them. :lol ;D

Yeah FTR is also my fave Bodom and go to, but did you know that there are two different versions of the album?
The Spinefarm and Nuclear Blast versions have slightly different mixes.

I actually don't think Alexi's vocal style is growls, it's more erm, well rough'n'gruff ramblings or something that cannot quite be described.

JP and Saxon, OAP with bus passes ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2018, 04:06:31 AM: If anybody gives a shit I'm hearing Oni Logan has quit Lynch Mob for the 545th time. :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2018, 04:16:26 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 12, 2018, 02:03:04 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 11, 2018, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on January 11, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
While I don't think it even touches the first 4 Bodom albums, it's pretty decent.
What's your fave COB?

Gotta be FTR mate. It changes between that, Hatecrew and Hatebreeder but I think Reaper is my go to album from them. It use to be Hatecrew but these days I'd say Reaper. The debut was one that I never really got into as much as the next three either for some reason. I am a big fan of AYDY also, I think that's a fabulous album.

Just be prepared mate, we might cop it for talking about a growly band in this thread. These pansies can't handle them. :lol ;D

Yeah FTR is also my fave Bodom and go to, but did you know that there are two different versions of the album?
The Spinefarm and Nuclear Blast versions have slightly different mixes.

I actually don't think Alexi's vocal style is growls, it's more erm, well rough'n'gruff ramblings or something that cannot quite be described.

JP and Saxon, OAP with bus passes ;D

No, I actually didnt know that at all. I think I'll have to check those out. I cant even think what version I own actually.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2018, 04:18:19 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 12, 2018, 12:45:29 AM
There is only 6 postings allowed a year in this thread that discusses growlie shit.

Sorry boys, you're 2018 quota is done for the year. 2019 you can continue that COB conversation.

Man new Judas Priest and Saxon coming up right away! :metal :metal :metal :metal

Sorry boss.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2018, 04:38:13 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 12, 2018, 04:06:31 AM
If anybody gives a shit I'm hearing Oni Logan has quit Lynch Mob for the 545th time. :)

I can't imagine there are many people who give a shit lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 12, 2018, 04:55:38 AM: Wicked Sensation was and is amazing, but that's some twenty years ago. So yeah, I don't give a shit. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: LudwigVan on January 12, 2018, 09:11:38 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2018, 06:48:38 PM
Cool interview with Tony Carey. Talks about the Rainbow days.

https://goodtimesrock.ru/?page_id=1707

Gotta agree with him about those lyrics for All Night Long. The song itself is okay, but those might just be the worst lyrics ever written. The other thing that kills me about that song is that heavy intro that teases you into thinking you're getting a Dio-like epic track, but instead it quickly degenerates into an 80s style pop chorus.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 12, 2018, 03:58:43 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 12, 2018, 04:38:13 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 12, 2018, 04:06:31 AM
If anybody gives a shit I'm hearing Oni Logan has quit Lynch Mob for the 545th time. :)

I can't imagine there are many people who give a shit lol

Can’t say I’m bothered. Last years album didn’t grab me, though I liked the one before. His voice in recent years hasn’t done it for me.. first two albums were great and that’s about it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 12, 2018, 04:10:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 12, 2018, 04:06:31 AM
If anybody gives a shit I'm hearing Oni Logan has quit Lynch Mob for the 545th time. :)

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to here it....
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2018, 04:45:21 PM: I'm sure even Lynch probably doesn't give a shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 12, 2018, 05:24:16 PM: Quote from: LudwigVan on January 12, 2018, 09:11:38 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2018, 06:48:38 PM
Cool interview with Tony Carey. Talks about the Rainbow days.

https://goodtimesrock.ru/?page_id=1707

Gotta agree with him about those lyrics for All Night Long. The song itself is okay, but those might just be the worst lyrics ever written. The other thing that kills me about that song is that heavy intro that teases you into thinking you're getting a Dio-like epic track, but instead it quickly degenerates into an 80s style pop chorus.

What I found interesting was that he plays on three of the LLRNR tracks, but is uncredited.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: LudwigVan on January 14, 2018, 11:36:25 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 12, 2018, 05:24:16 PM
Quote from: LudwigVan on January 12, 2018, 09:11:38 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2018, 06:48:38 PM
Cool interview with Tony Carey. Talks about the Rainbow days.

https://goodtimesrock.ru/?page_id=1707

Gotta agree with him about those lyrics for All Night Long. The song itself is okay, but those might just be the worst lyrics ever written. The other thing that kills me about that song is that heavy intro that teases you into thinking you're getting a Dio-like epic track, but instead it quickly degenerates into an 80s style pop chorus.

What I found interesting was that he plays on three of the LLRNR tracks, but is uncredited.

On a similar note, Rainbow was like a revolving door clusterfuck of musicians constantly dropping in and out of the band. Not unlike Megadeth, it was probably a function of having that single domineering asshat in the band a la Blackmore\Mustaine who apparently put some of those guys through hell.

That said, the personnel changes likely helped to keep the creative juices flowing. When Dio left, as catastrophic as it seemed at the time, it was a good thing that Blackmore didn't go after a Dio clone or Dio fantasy approach. For all the lyrical cheesiness and 80s pop leanings of those post-Dio albums, there's a freshness and vitality to them that keeps me listening.

And I absolutely love Street of Dreams. What a great song!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 14, 2018, 11:52:30 AM: Yeah, the JLT Era can be addicting. I just pulled out the Boston 1981 CD and it is a great performance.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 14, 2018, 02:24:10 PM: There is some good stuff on all those post DIO albums but no great albums. I don’t love them like I do Rising and LLPnP.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2018, 02:52:26 PM: I'm not a massive Rainbow fan, but when I go to them, it's usually the JLT stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 14, 2018, 03:10:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 14, 2018, 02:52:26 PM
I'm not a massive Rainbow fan, but when I go to them, it's usually the JLT stuff.

(https://memegenerator.net/img-preview/Instance/PreviewInstanceData?instanceDataJson=%7B%22instanceElements%22%3A%5B%7B%22instancePicture%22%3A%7B%22imageID%22%3A2485%7D%2C%22instanceTexts%22%3A%5B%7B%22text%22%3A%22I%20don't%20usually%20listen%20to%20Rainbow%22%2C%22placeholder%22%3A%22top%20text%22%2C%22horizontalAlign%22%3A%22center%22%2C%22verticalAlign%22%3A%22near%22%2C%22color%22%3A%22%23ffffff%22%7D%2C%7B%22text%22%3A%22But%20when%20I%20do%20it's%20JLT%20Era%22%2C%22placeholder%22%3A%22bottom%20text%22%2C%22horizontalAlign%22%3A%22center%22%2C%22verticalAlign%22%3A%22far%22%2C%22color%22%3A%22%23ffffff%22%7D%5D%7D%5D%7D)
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Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2018, 03:25:27 PM: Haha fuck yeah.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 15, 2018, 12:19:15 AM: My first taste of Rainbow many years ago was renting the 'Live Between The Eyes' VHS tape from Video Easy.
I used to rent it at least every month and couldn't get enough of it, back then I don't think you could even buy it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 15, 2018, 12:23:05 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 15, 2018, 12:19:15 AM
My first taste of Rainbow many years ago was renting the 'Live Between The Eyes' VHS tape from Video Easy.
I used to rent it at least every month and couldn't get enough of it, back then I don't think you could even buy it.

A mate of mine had it and I remember watching it at his house once. I got a bootleg of that and a few other shows a few years ago and then they released the dvd. Great show. JLT has such a great voice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2018, 02:02:41 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 15, 2018, 12:23:05 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on January 15, 2018, 12:19:15 AM
My first taste of Rainbow many years ago was renting the 'Live Between The Eyes' VHS tape from Video Easy.
I used to rent it at least every month and couldn't get enough of it, back then I don't think you could even buy it.

A mate of mine had it and I remember watching it at his house once. I got a bootleg of that and a few other shows a few years ago and then they released the dvd. Great show. JLT has such a great voice.

Great hair too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 16, 2018, 12:19:08 PM: Great fur hat
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 16, 2018, 01:17:50 PM: Video Ezy that is, surprised that no one corrected me, are you all that young :o?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 16, 2018, 02:24:13 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 16, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
Video Ezy that is, surprised that no one corrected me, are you all that young :o?

No..........that old and tired that we can't be stuffed being pedantic ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 16, 2018, 02:31:47 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 16, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
Video Ezy that is, surprised that no one corrected me, are you all that young :o?

And either the dementia is progressing or I’ve never heard of it 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2018, 03:35:09 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 16, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
Video Ezy that is, surprised that no one corrected me, are you all that young :o?

Remember it well, just didn't pick it. The only thing I use to rent from video stores as a kid was Sega games.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 17, 2018, 03:34:06 AM: I was just listening to Nostradamus from Judas Priest for the first time in ages. It's alright but can be somewhat of a chore to get through.

This album is a perfect example of how less is more sometimes. If this album was condensed to one single disc it would be much better.

It might be neck and neck with Rocka Rolla for the bottom spot for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2018, 04:38:47 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 17, 2018, 03:34:06 AM
I was just listening to Nostradamus from Judas Priest for the first time in ages. It's alright but can be somewhat of a chore to get through.

This album is a perfect example of how less is more sometimes. If this album was condensed to one single disc it would be much better.

It might be neck and neck with Rocka Rolla for the bottom spot for me.

I revisted it a while afterwards when it was released and there is some good stuff on there. I actually made a single cd version. I'll have to see if I can find the tracklist. It worked surprisingly well.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 18, 2018, 01:31:25 AM: FWIW I am hearing that some sort of major announcement from KISS is imminent.

What KISS consider major and what the fans consider major are often two different things but that's the goss.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 04:31:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 18, 2018, 01:31:25 AM
FWIW I am hearing that some sort of major announcement from KISS is imminent.

What KISS consider major and what the fans consider major are often two different things but that's the goss.

Hopefully it's they are going to break up immediately and never show their faces in public again.

Or Gene Simmons lube, but I'm sure that already exists.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 18, 2018, 04:34:26 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 04:31:58 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 18, 2018, 01:31:25 AM
FWIW I am hearing that some sort of major announcement from KISS is imminent.

What KISS consider major and what the fans consider major are often two different things but that's the goss.

Hopefully it's they are going to break up immediately and never show their faces in public again.

Or Gene Simmons lube, but I'm sure that already exists.

It sure does... just used some last night. :zydar:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 04:35:27 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 18, 2018, 04:34:26 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 04:31:58 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 18, 2018, 01:31:25 AM
FWIW I am hearing that some sort of major announcement from KISS is imminent.

What KISS consider major and what the fans consider major are often two different things but that's the goss.

Hopefully it's they are going to break up immediately and never show their faces in public again.

Or Gene Simmons lube, but I'm sure that already exists.

It sure does... just used some last night. :zydar:

Nice to see you had the house to yourself last night Chad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 04:41:41 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 17, 2018, 03:34:06 AM
I was just listening to Nostradamus from Judas Priest for the first time in ages. It's alright but can be somewhat of a chore to get through.

This album is a perfect example of how less is more sometimes. If this album was condensed to one single disc it would be much better.

It might be neck and neck with Rocka Rolla for the bottom spot for me.

Here's the version I made;

Dawn of Creation
Prophecy
Awakening
Revelations
Pestilence and Plague
Conquest
Persecution
Exiled
Alone
Shadows in the Flame
Visions
Nostradamus
Future of Mankind

Around 68 minutes, much better. Dunno if what I cut misses crucial parts of the story, but I couldn't really give a fuck.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 18, 2018, 06:38:09 AM: Yeah Kade that version of Nostradamus is already an improvement.

As far as Kiss goes, maybe its finally time for Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park part 2!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on January 18, 2018, 08:40:55 AM: Nostradamus really grew on me. I love it much more today than I did when it came out. Though I do agree that it would have been much better cut down to one disc.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 01:00:36 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on January 18, 2018, 08:40:55 AM
Nostradamus really grew on me. I love it much more today than I did when it came out. Though I do agree that it would have been much better cut down to one disc.

I just don't understand what the need was with the 2cd thing, it was just so damn bloated, not necessary.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 18, 2018, 03:22:28 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 04:35:27 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 18, 2018, 04:34:26 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 04:31:58 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 18, 2018, 01:31:25 AM
FWIW I am hearing that some sort of major announcement from KISS is imminent.

What KISS consider major and what the fans consider major are often two different things but that's the goss.

Hopefully it's they are going to break up immediately and never show their faces in public again.

Or Gene Simmons lube, but I'm sure that already exists.

It sure does... just used some last night. :zydar:

Nice to see you had the house to yourself last night Chad.

It didn’t help Chad. I haven’t been able to walk all day 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 03:29:26 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 18, 2018, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 04:35:27 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 18, 2018, 04:34:26 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 18, 2018, 04:31:58 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 18, 2018, 01:31:25 AM
FWIW I am hearing that some sort of major announcement from KISS is imminent.

What KISS consider major and what the fans consider major are often two different things but that's the goss.

Hopefully it's they are going to break up immediately and never show their faces in public again.

Or Gene Simmons lube, but I'm sure that already exists.

It sure does... just used some last night. :zydar:

Nice to see you had the house to yourself last night Chad.

It didn’t help Chad. I haven’t been able to walk all day 😀

(https://i.giphy.com/media/asHT7eh4AwG9G/200.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2018, 09:52:57 PM: Vinnie Vincent reappears after a couple of decades in seclusion. Seems he has done a "Mark Free" but great to see him out and about and communicating with the fans again.

(https://i.imgur.com/MrC9cUc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2018, 11:22:59 PM: Oh wow.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 20, 2018, 04:30:02 AM: I heard the rumours. I’m amazed he turned up. I thought he wouldn’t.

Maybe he should team up with a Marcie Free? Great marketing opportunity and it would piss off Trump’s America :biggrin:

Great hear he’s been playing and writing all this time, if he’s not bullshitting.

Anyway, anyone played the new Magnum? Impressed at first listen.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2018, 04:46:39 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 20, 2018, 04:30:02 AM
Anyway, anyone played the new Magnum? Impressed at first listen.

Haven't got it yet but heard good things about it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 20, 2018, 05:13:31 AM: Vinnie actlooks very much like my mate who transitioned a few years ago :omg:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2018, 05:51:03 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 20, 2018, 04:30:02 AM
Anyway, anyone played the new Magnum? Impressed at first listen.

Haven't got it yet but heard good things about it.

I thought it was a bucket full of meh. Bob sounds excellent, but Magnum is mostly a 'miss' for me.

:dunno:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2018, 06:42:58 AM: Well, I'm a big Magnum fan, so I'm expecting to at least like the new one. But if it's as good as others have said, that would be welcomed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2018, 01:12:24 PM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/symphony-x-to-begin-work-on-follow-up-to-underworld/

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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2018, 05:31:14 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 20, 2018, 01:12:24 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/symphony-x-to-begin-work-on-follow-up-to-underworld/

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:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2018, 05:35:59 PM: (https://media.giphy.com/media/7PX0Mbpd2TvwY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 20, 2018, 10:33:54 PM: I was actually more shocked that Vinnie Vincent showed up, more than his actual personnel appearance.
It must have taken a lot of balls to make his first public appearance (in 20 years) in this guise.
Good on him anyway, he seems to have put his troubles behind him.
His performance of the two acoustic songs (A Million To One and Back On The Streets) also sounded pretty good.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2018, 10:38:54 PM: Quote from: FB
Surprise! Jaded Heart's new album "Devil's Gift" will hit the stores on March 30, 2018!

Thomas Ewerhard Artwork is responsible for the cover artwork, that will delight fans of clowns and challenge those suffering from coulrophobia.

Erik Mårtensson took care of the album's mix and mastering at Mass Destruction Production.

Jaded Heart's new album "Devil's Gift" will also be available as limited edition digipak with exclusive bonus tracks!

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 03:47:18 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 20, 2018, 04:30:02 AM
Anyway, anyone played the new Magnum? Impressed at first listen.

Haven't got it yet but heard good things about it.

Is it better than the last couple? They have been pretty shit IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 03:55:21 AM: For Tim;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/kip-winger-solo-box-set-collection-due-in-march/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 21, 2018, 08:11:18 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 03:47:18 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 20, 2018, 04:30:02 AM
Anyway, anyone played the new Magnum? Impressed at first listen.

Haven't got it yet but heard good things about it.

Is it better than the last couple? They have been pretty shit IMO.

I never gave the last few much of a go and tbh I never gave anything after Goodnight LA much of a go. All I can say is it was a good listen. They are never going to achieve the greatness of CTD to WoH, but I l8ked it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 21, 2018, 10:46:31 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 03:55:21 AM
For Tim;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/kip-winger-solo-box-set-collection-due-in-march/

(https://i.imgur.com/gMHvoBq.png)
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2018, 11:56:25 AM: https://www.musicradar.com/news/phil-collen-these-are-the-10-guitarists-that-blew-my-mind

Nice to see Michael Schenker and Gary Moore on the list.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 02:07:25 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 21, 2018, 08:11:18 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 03:47:18 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 20, 2018, 04:30:02 AM
Anyway, anyone played the new Magnum? Impressed at first listen.

Haven't got it yet but heard good things about it.

Is it better than the last couple? They have been pretty shit IMO.

I never gave the last few much of a go and tbh I never gave anything after Goodnight LA much of a go. All I can say is it was a good listen. They are never going to achieve the greatness of CTD to WoH, but I l8ked it.

I've followed them up to now so I'll definitely give it a spin.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on January 21, 2018, 09:51:07 PM: hey guys, so I mentioned a while back that I had been laid off from work. Since the guys hanging out in this thread are most of the ones I interact with on a regular basis, thought I would just post the update here.

Back in September I was laid off as part of a pretty significant action by my former employer (of 16 years) to cut costs. I was actually working from home that day and got the call from my manager and HR while I was wearing a t-shirt with my company's logo on the front. I felt like the kid hearing his favorite player had been traded while wearing that player's jersey. The company had been going through a slight rough patch, but this was a huge shock to say the least.

But by the end of that same day I was pretty much over it. My manager, while great to work for at the beginning, had taken on additional responsibilities and was becoming someone that I gradually started to dislike. Also, the overall situation for advancement and opportunity at the company was not very good. It is a foreign company albeit with a significant presence in the US. For upper finance management positions in the US, the company rotates in people from its home country for experience then ships them elsewhere in the world. Unfortunately what happens is that lower and middle management folks from the US never move up, so they never go anywhere creating a logjam at the bottom and much stagnation. I remember at one point a couple of years ago they told us that we shouldn't look at career advancement as moving up the chain but more as moving laterally and learning new jobs. I probably should have been looking for something outside the company sooner but I was loyal to the company (my how short-sighted that was . . .) and I was really good at what I did, so that was at least fulfilling to a point. They just decided I was too expensive I suppose.

So, I am laid off. Time for a job search. I live near a major metropolitan area, lots of companies big and small, major corporate headquarters, etc. Should be easy for someone with a great deal of finance experience, management experience, several years as a senior analyst, etc, right? It was not. To say it has been an emotional roller coaster would be an understatement. I went through days where things looked promising only to have things fall through followed by days/weeks of nothing going on despite me applying for positions right and left. I learned that if you don't know someone at a company, they aren't going to talk to you. Applying online is like sending your resume into a black hole. I had a couple of really low points where I was wondering if I would land anything, would we have to sell the house, be able to have Christmas for the kids etc. One was in mid-November and the other was the week before Christmas (not a great time to be miserable). Luckily, I received a call from one company at 5 PM the Friday before Christmas, asking me to interview in early January. Then the very next morning I received an email from someone at a different company asking to schedule an interview as well. I'm so thankful those two things happened as I'm sure I would have been a complete mess through the holidays. But now I had hope. That second company just happened to be my A#1 first choice to work for (I actually already had two interviews with this company for other positions, but they both went to internal candidates).

So January rolls around and I have my interviews, both of which went well. Then the hard part comes. The waiting. Will I get a callback? Will it be good news? How long is it going to take? Fast forward to Friday morning and I get call from A#1 company. They are offering me a job that sounds fantastic. I can't wait to get started and kick some ass.

Long story short, fuck my former employer and I am very excited to be starting my new role at the new company. Oh and my commute is now less than 5 minutes.

I know this is the classic hard rock/metal thread, but I'm gonna draw on one of my favorite 90s R&B songs to describe how I'm feeling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1D9wWxd2w
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 10:32:44 PM: Fuck, Return of the Mac is one of my favourite 90's songs!!! :metal

Anyway Jon, I'm really glad you've found something and hopefully it works out for you, I'm sure it will be worth the wait and agony you've been through. Even though I don't know what's it's like to lose a job, I can say too that being loyal seems to just bite you in the ass. You dedicate you heart and soul to your profession and the company you work for only for them to shit on you the first chance they get. I'm not in danger of redundancy but have felt this in ways. I couldn't imagine what it must have been like during that time, and I'm sure Chad can certainly relate.

Head up mate, the metal spirit has risen again and rock on!! :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2018, 12:15:16 AM: Good to hear Jon :metal
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 22, 2018, 12:46:57 AM: Good when everything turns out right. Good luck at your new job. :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 22, 2018, 12:49:08 AM: Good luck dude!!

But what in the blue hell is this noise called R&B. Doesn't compute.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 22, 2018, 05:08:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 10:32:44 PM
and I'm sure Chad can certainly relate.

Boy ain't that the truth!

Quote from: Big Hath on January 21, 2018, 09:51:07 PM
I learned that if you don't know someone at a company, they aren't going to talk to you. Applying online is like sending your resume into a black hole.

Boy ain't that the truth! Protip if anyone else here ever has to do a job search... it's who you know that is often the #1 driver. I could relate a dozen stories of things that happened during my search which were wtf moments in this regard.

Jon... super glad (and relieved for you) that things are looking up. I'd been meaning to ping you about this again, but was afraid of what the response might be. I know all about being in a low moment. I never really had any with my job search, but I've certainly had my struggles with depression over the years.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 22, 2018, 09:05:34 AM: Great news after a pretty shitty time. Best of luck.

There’s no loyalty in business anymore so fuck em and think of no 1.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on January 22, 2018, 09:33:28 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 10:32:44 PM
Fuck, Return of the Mac is one of my favourite 90's songs!!! :metal

I know, right!? That track was basically the soundtrack for my freshman year of college and the following summer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 22, 2018, 11:06:55 AM: Quote from: Big Hath on January 22, 2018, 09:33:28 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 10:32:44 PM
Fuck, Return of the Mac is one of my favourite 90's songs!!! :metal

I know, right!? That track was basically the soundtrack for my freshman year of college and the following summer.

Damn good song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2018, 01:32:52 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on January 22, 2018, 09:33:28 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2018, 10:32:44 PM
Fuck, Return of the Mac is one of my favourite 90's songs!!! :metal

I know, right!? That track was basically the soundtrack for my freshman year of college and the following summer.

It's just a killer tune all round.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2018, 08:27:06 PM: I'm struggling with the squeaky voice :)

I can honestly say that I have never heard that song or heard of that artist.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2018, 08:49:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2018, 08:27:06 PM
I'm struggling with the squeaky voice :)

I can honestly say that I have never heard that song or heard of that artist.

It was a pretty big 90's hit, but not a massive Spice Girls/Oasis type hit. It was his only song, well only hit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 22, 2018, 09:16:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2018, 08:27:06 PM
I'm struggling with the squeaky voice :)

I can honestly say that I have never heard that song or heard of that artist.

I'm with Brent. I tried twice to let it play. Couldn't do it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2018, 04:07:28 AM: KK Downing obviously speaks the DTF hard rock club language.

On Dave Holland: "Dave was a solid friend in life and solid musician both on the stage and in the studio" Yeah nice KK.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2018, 08:23:51 AM: https://bravewords.com/news/david-lee-roth-impersonator-in-british-columbia-charged-with-sex-crimes-against-underage-girls

Get a look at this fucking dude!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2018, 09:40:25 AM: Can’t say I can mourn for a convicted child abuser. A disabled child at that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2018, 02:28:54 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on January 21, 2018, 09:51:07 PM
hey guys, so I mentioned a while back that I had been laid off from work. Since the guys hanging out in this thread are most of the ones I interact with on a regular basis, thought I would just post the update here.

Back in September I was laid off as part of a pretty significant action by my former employer (of 16 years) to cut costs. I was actually working from home that day and got the call from my manager and HR while I was wearing a t-shirt with my company's logo on the front. I felt like the kid hearing his favorite player had been traded while wearing that player's jersey. The company had been going through a slight rough patch, but this was a huge shock to say the least.

But by the end of that same day I was pretty much over it. My manager, while great to work for at the beginning, had taken on additional responsibilities and was becoming someone that I gradually started to dislike. Also, the overall situation for advancement and opportunity at the company was not very good. It is a foreign company albeit with a significant presence in the US. For upper finance management positions in the US, the company rotates in people from its home country for experience then ships them elsewhere in the world. Unfortunately what happens is that lower and middle management folks from the US never move up, so they never go anywhere creating a logjam at the bottom and much stagnation. I remember at one point a couple of years ago they told us that we shouldn't look at career advancement as moving up the chain but more as moving laterally and learning new jobs. I probably should have been looking for something outside the company sooner but I was loyal to the company (my how short-sighted that was . . .) and I was really good at what I did, so that was at least fulfilling to a point. They just decided I was too expensive I suppose.

So, I am laid off. Time for a job search. I live near a major metropolitan area, lots of companies big and small, major corporate headquarters, etc. Should be easy for someone with a great deal of finance experience, management experience, several years as a senior analyst, etc, right? It was not. To say it has been an emotional roller coaster would be an understatement. I went through days where things looked promising only to have things fall through followed by days/weeks of nothing going on despite me applying for positions right and left. I learned that if you don't know someone at a company, they aren't going to talk to you. Applying online is like sending your resume into a black hole. I had a couple of really low points where I was wondering if I would land anything, would we have to sell the house, be able to have Christmas for the kids etc. One was in mid-November and the other was the week before Christmas (not a great time to be miserable). Luckily, I received a call from one company at 5 PM the Friday before Christmas, asking me to interview in early January. Then the very next morning I received an email from someone at a different company asking to schedule an interview as well. I'm so thankful those two things happened as I'm sure I would have been a complete mess through the holidays. But now I had hope. That second company just happened to be my A#1 first choice to work for (I actually already had two interviews with this company for other positions, but they both went to internal candidates).

So January rolls around and I have my interviews, both of which went well. Then the hard part comes. The waiting. Will I get a callback? Will it be good news? How long is it going to take? Fast forward to Friday morning and I get call from A#1 company. They are offering me a job that sounds fantastic. I can't wait to get started and kick some ass.

Long story short, fuck my former employer and I am very excited to be starting my new role at the new company. Oh and my commute is now less than 5 minutes.

I know this is the classic hard rock/metal thread, but I'm gonna draw on one of my favorite 90s R&B songs to describe how I'm feeling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1D9wWxd2w

I was totally with you, Jon, until the youtube link. :lol

Awesome! Very happy for you.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2018, 02:44:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 23, 2018, 02:28:54 PM
I was totally with you, Jon, until the youtube link. :lol

Awesome! Very happy for you.

God, that would have been the perfect time for a Kip-roll. :rollin :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2018, 03:24:39 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 23, 2018, 02:44:40 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 23, 2018, 02:28:54 PM
I was totally with you, Jon, until the youtube link. :lol

Awesome! Very happy for you.

God, that would have been the perfect time for a Kip-roll. :rollin :rollin

Good lord that would have been amazing.
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Post by: TAC on January 23, 2018, 03:26:58 PM: No, not really. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2018, 03:28:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 23, 2018, 03:26:58 PM
No, not really. :lol

(https://media.makeameme.org/created/um-yes.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2018, 04:34:00 AM: I really liked the first Voodoo Circle song we heard but now we get this fucking crap;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ05TMMQ3VI

For fucks sake!! >:(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 26, 2018, 10:11:06 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 26, 2018, 04:34:00 AM
I really liked the first Voodoo Circle song we heard but now we get this fucking crap;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ05TMMQ3VI

For fucks sake!! >:(

Have to say, I didn’t hate it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2018, 01:06:46 PM: I just stay away from most of the single and snippet releases. I prefer to wait for the whole damn thing (most of the time).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2018, 02:56:48 PM: New Loudness!
https://bravewords.com/news/loudness-release-official-music-video-for-new-song-soul-on-fire

What do you guys think?

Studio Loudness always disappoints, but honestly, I actually don't mind this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2018, 03:30:38 PM: Never heard anything from Loudness. Take notes if you like.

Actually, since I'm looking at rouletting around March April, I'm going to mention my status in regards to bands that pop up. Maybe this might help some of you guys if you may get stuck. I don't know, just a thought.

But Loudness is one band I know practically nothing about.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2018, 03:37:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 26, 2018, 03:30:38 PM
Never heard anything from Loudness. Take notes if you like.

Actually, since I'm looking at rouletting around March April, I'm going to mention my status in regards to bands that pop up. Maybe this might help some of you guys if you may get stuck. I don't know, just a thought.

But Loudness is one band I know practically nothing about.

I would never send them. Like I said, their studio output is pretty weak. The only thing worth having by them is their 1983 live album, which is incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2018, 04:17:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 26, 2018, 03:37:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 26, 2018, 03:30:38 PM
Never heard anything from Loudness. Take notes if you like.

Actually, since I'm looking at rouletting around March April, I'm going to mention my status in regards to bands that pop up. Maybe this might help some of you guys if you may get stuck. I don't know, just a thought.

But Loudness is one band I know practically nothing about.

I would never send them. Like I said, their studio output is pretty weak. The only thing worth having by them is their 1983 live album, which is incredible.

I thought that, but I just came up with it and might even help me also when it comes to roulette time.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 26, 2018, 06:55:55 PM: I only know Crazy Nights and Like Hell from Loudness. Pretty good tunes, I would imagine Thunder in the East is their biggest album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2018, 07:28:30 PM: Soldier of Fortune got an HM in my Top 50 ........the only proper studio album featuring Michael Vescera.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: NoseofNicko on January 26, 2018, 07:35:50 PM: Weak studio output? Nah. The Law of Devil's Land, Disillusion, Thunder in the East, Lightning Strikes and Soldier of Fortune are all great albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2018, 07:42:05 PM: Quote from: NoseofNicko on January 26, 2018, 07:35:50 PM
The Law of Devil's Land, Disillusion,

I tried these, but they just don't compare to Live Loud Alive.

Quote from: NoseofNicko on January 26, 2018, 07:35:50 PM
Thunder in the East, Lightning Strikes and Soldier of Fortune are all great albums.

Everything I've sampled from them has felt very generic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2018, 08:00:30 PM: Just ran through the new Loudness on Spotify. Very impressed! :metal :metal

Just ordered the CD :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2018, 11:33:39 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 26, 2018, 07:28:30 PM
Soldier of Fortune got an HM in my Top 50 ........the only proper studio album featuring Michael Vescera.

Didnt know Vescera worked with them, nice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2018, 11:41:21 PM: After reeling back my cd buying over the last couple of years, my all time fav bands still have me by the nuts. Went out today to get a few things so went to JB for a browse. They had a copy of the new Primal Fear best of 2CD. I have no use for it and really was a waste of 25 bucks, but I couldn't leave it there hahaha.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2018, 12:49:28 AM: Wolf, don't worry, you are preaching to the choir with that lol

Hello my name is Jason......

But I have actually reeled it back big time over the last couple of years as it was out of control for years.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2018, 05:14:28 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2018, 12:49:28 AM
But I have actually reeled it back big time over the last couple of years as it was out of control for years.

Hi, I'm Chad, and I've had no such luck. 31 albums purchased last year (which was a drop from the 47 I purchased last year).

Quote from: wolfking on January 26, 2018, 03:30:38 PM
Actually, since I'm looking at rouletting around March April, I'm going to mention my status in regards to bands that pop up. Maybe this might help some of you guys if you may get stuck. I don't know, just a thought.

I've already got a Wolfking list that's about 40 bands strong, but it'll certainly be interesting to see who else might pop up as available. I don't know much Loudness, so giving Tim's 'instant-purchase' review, I'm gonna go check the new one out momentarily
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Post by: Lowdz on January 27, 2018, 09:13:09 AM: Soldier of Fortune is good but I was never a fan. Thunder In The East is ok.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2018, 03:21:29 AM: 40 band list Chad!? Nice. :metal

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2018, 12:49:28 AM
Wolf, don't worry, you are preaching to the choir with that lol

Hello my name is Jason......

But I have actually reeled it back big time over the last couple of years as it was out of control for years.

I knew you'd have my back Jason.

Going back to this Primal Fear, Predator is one of the coolest things they have ever done, ripping tune.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2018, 04:48:28 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 28, 2018, 03:21:29 AM
40 band list Chad!? Nice. :metal

That's just the holdovers from the last roulette!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2018, 02:06:56 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 28, 2018, 04:48:28 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 28, 2018, 03:21:29 AM
40 band list Chad!? Nice. :metal

That's just the holdovers from the last roulette!

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 28, 2018, 05:49:35 PM: Hey Brent, what do you know about this band? Here's their latest album:

(https://s3-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/heavy-images/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/14145349/BCWF.jpg)

I mean, the band and album name? :facepalm: :lol
No sure if they intentionally rip off riffs as part of their shtick or if they are just unoriginal, but I have a confession to make. I very guiltily and shamefully enjoyed this! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 28, 2018, 06:32:53 PM: I have both their albums on my "to do list" (have sampled enough to follow up) but haven't checked out in detail as yet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 28, 2018, 06:39:08 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 28, 2018, 06:32:53 PM
I have both their albums on my "to do list" (have sampled enough to follow up) but haven't checked out in detail as yet.

Cool. I Saved it on Spotify. It sounds like a homage to some classic hard rock. I mean, it looks ridiculous on the surface, but ...I liked it. :blush

Oh, and people, the new Loudness album is awesome!

Also enjoying the new Mike Lepond's Silent Assassins album. It's a bit campy in spots but for the most part it is :metal
The 20+ minute epic title track is fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2018, 04:04:49 AM: Chainsaw Charlie from WASP's new Crimson Idol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_WSZN7c4Ak&feature=youtu.be

I'm actually impressed with how this is done. For 25 years later, it shows Blackie still has it and the band are quite good and the new production sounds different but refreshing. I still don't understand the point as it is really quite close to the original and the altered lyrics is pretty stupid but I'll pick this up for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 29, 2018, 04:59:47 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2018, 04:04:49 AM
I still don't understand the point.............. the altered lyrics is pretty stupid................. but I'll pick this up for sure.

Take that one to your friends at Metalholics Anonymous :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 29, 2018, 06:37:48 AM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 29, 2018, 08:41:06 AM: Have to say I’m enjoying the Loudness, but the riffs are the sort of thing I come up with when jamming and throw them away as being too obvious :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 29, 2018, 08:44:48 AM: Well, someone has to do the obvious. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 29, 2018, 09:02:41 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 29, 2018, 08:44:48 AM
Well, someone has to do the obvious. :biggrin:

Obviously
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2018, 02:43:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 29, 2018, 04:59:47 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2018, 04:04:49 AM
I still don't understand the point.............. the altered lyrics is pretty stupid................. but I'll pick this up for sure.

Take that one to your friends at Metalholics Anonymous :lol

I make no apologies for my actions. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 29, 2018, 02:47:13 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2018, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 29, 2018, 04:59:47 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 29, 2018, 04:04:49 AM
I still don't understand the point.............. the altered lyrics is pretty stupid................. but I'll pick this up for sure.

Take that one to your friends at Metalholics Anonymous :lol

I make no apologies for my actions. ;D

Do you need a list of those you need make amends with? :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 29, 2018, 05:17:39 PM: As long as Kade doesn't skip step 9, everything should be cool.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 29, 2018, 07:06:41 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 29, 2018, 08:41:06 AM
Have to say I’m enjoying the Loudness, but the riffs are the sort of thing I come up with when jamming and throw them away as being too obvious :lol

I really like it. It's very strong. I've tried them a number of times, and they have always come off as generic. The only real weak track is the bonus track Let's All Rock.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 29, 2018, 08:02:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 29, 2018, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 29, 2018, 08:41:06 AM
Have to say I’m enjoying the Loudness, but the riffs are the sort of thing I come up with when jamming and throw them away as being too obvious :lol

I really like it. It's very strong. I've tried them a number of times, and they have always come off as generic. The only real weak track is the bonus track Let's All Rock.

I found it to be quite pedestrian. I did like Soldier of Fortune enough to save on Spotify though. I think Paul recommended it a while back?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 29, 2018, 08:21:38 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 29, 2018, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 29, 2018, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 29, 2018, 08:41:06 AM
Have to say I’m enjoying the Loudness, but the riffs are the sort of thing I come up with when jamming and throw them away as being too obvious :lol

I really like it. It's very strong. I've tried them a number of times, and they have always come off as generic. The only real weak track is the bonus track Let's All Rock.

I found it to be quite pedestrian. I did like Soldier of Fortune enough to save on Spotify though. I think Paul recommended it a while back?

The definition of pedestrian.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 30, 2018, 07:44:47 AM: Coming in April.....

(https://www.grande-rock.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/large/imagesnews/riotv-armoroflight-cover2018.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 30, 2018, 07:46:18 AM: :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2018, 02:18:06 PM: I only have Thundersteel and Riot Down Under and don't really know any later Riot. I remember Brent playing a song or two in a podcast and they were strong if I remember rightly. Another band that could be available in my roulette.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 30, 2018, 07:14:10 PM: Fire Down Under rocks!!

Restless Breed is also another great release from Riot.
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Post by: TAC on January 30, 2018, 07:27:29 PM: The day I bought Piece Of Mind, I grabbed Riot's Narita with it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2018, 11:19:26 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 30, 2018, 07:14:10 PM
Fire Down Under rocks!!

Yeah, it really is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 31, 2018, 06:40:32 AM: The ritual of shit album covers continues for them though.

I haven’t devoted nearly enough time to Riot and I really should put that right
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2018, 06:32:01 AM: Oy........quit dissing Johnny the Seal :biggrin:

We haven't had any memorabilia in the thread for a while so here goes with some KISS stuff. As you guys know the vast majority of my stuff -much of it posted in the early days of the thread - is Van Halen related. KISS and VH were the two biggest bands for me in the very early childhood days - especially KISS - but when it came to collecting, the amount of KISS stuff was so ridiculous that I knew a completist like me had no chance.

Anyway - in the end I decided to just get the odd "high impact" item related to KISS that I thought was pretty cool and genuinely rare. I have a few more items but here are 3 of my favourites:

1) 1977 Japanese Tour Book

(https://s10.postimg.org/scbc48fy1/IMG_0825.jpg) (https://s10.postimg.org/lluuuu32x/IMG_0826.jpg)

2) Japanese only Gene Simmons 1978 picture disc (unique art)

(https://s10.postimg.org/m00s80k89/IMG_0822.jpg) (https://s10.postimg.org/7gtn6q1ex/IMG_0824.jpg)

and my favourite............

3) Excellent condition 1978 KISS card box with 36 packs unopened

.....love that gum smell ;D

(https://s10.postimg.org/pjmpy1509/IMG_0827.jpg) (https://s10.postimg.org/sqh9ho4vt/IMG_0828.jpg)

Anyone else have any cool KISS memorabilia?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 01, 2018, 07:07:14 AM: Nope... never actually saw them live. Was never a big enough fan.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2018, 10:39:16 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 01, 2018, 07:07:14 AM
Nope... never actually saw them live. Was never a big enough fan.

That’s because you never saw them live 😀

KISS were my first serious favourite band (after ABBA!) but I never really collected the stuff.

I have the double groove Creatures of the Night 12 inch, the tank shaped clear vinyl of some single(might be Lick It Up). I do have a few of the early albums in red vinyl which were worth a bit at one time - I bought them second hand for next to nothing. Didnt realise what I had til I got them home.

I really should venture into the attic one day and see what I’ve still got because the old memory isn’t up to it anymore, and there’s plenty of stuff I traded and lost along the way, as I’m sure we all have.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2018, 10:40:38 AM: And I’ve got the KISStory coffee table book.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2018, 10:50:32 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 01, 2018, 10:40:38 AM
And I’ve got the KISStory coffee table book.

Binding falling to bits like just about all of them?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2018, 11:22:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 01, 2018, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 01, 2018, 10:40:38 AM
And I’ve got the KISStory coffee table book.

Binding falling to bits like just about all of them?

Absolutely 😡
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2018, 02:16:42 PM: I hate KISS.

But that trading card box is legit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 02, 2018, 01:21:49 PM: Anyone heard the Saxon yet? Almost bought it today but want to hear it first.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2018, 02:27:31 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 02, 2018, 01:21:49 PM
Anyone heard the Saxon yet? Almost bought it today but want to hear it first.

Just opened the package!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2018, 03:06:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 01, 2018, 06:32:01 AM

Anyone else have any cool KISS memorabilia?

So I have posted these before, but I'll do it again.

Here are my KISS jigsaw puzzles:
(https://i.imgur.com/U10M3Ue.jpg)

Here are a few pics of the KISS On Tour board game

(https://i.imgur.com/iEgu7PW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rgo1lBN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/i8BJ0lN.jpg)

Not really memorabilia but I bought this shirt because I thought it looked cool:
(https://i.imgur.com/IaYnJ7I.jpg)

And of course an old picture from Halloween. I think I was 11 or 12. I'm Gene. Wearing my mother's boots, a hockey stick guitar, and a cardboard/aluminum foil "belt":
(https://i.imgur.com/qaGVWPJ.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2018, 03:17:02 PM: Some awesome Kiss pictures!!

Didn't they release a comic book in the 70's that had their blood in the print?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 02, 2018, 03:34:43 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 02, 2018, 03:17:02 PM
Some awesome Kiss pictures!!

Didn't they release a comic book in the 70's that had their blood in the print?

I have that too - will post during the week ;D I think I have an RIAA platinum award for Love Gun somewhere too so will try and find that.

Great stuff Tim :metal We have Kissopoly but I have to be careful with Ben as a few of the cards are rather "adult" :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2018, 04:23:51 PM: Hey Brent, have you ever heard this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ednz5JobmXI

I stumbled upon it today on youtube. I will say that in 1985 I would've loved this. I love it now!
Can't find it on Amazon though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 02, 2018, 05:36:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 02, 2018, 04:23:51 PM
Hey Brent, have you ever heard this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ednz5JobmXI

I stumbled upon it today on youtube. I will say that in 1985 I would've loved this. I love it now!
Can't find it on Amazon though.

It is a very rare one but I do have that Tim . Can organise something for you if you wish ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2018, 07:37:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 02, 2018, 01:21:49 PM
Anyone heard the Saxon yet? Almost bought it today but want to hear it first.

Paul, I just got through my first listen.

Lionheart was the album that got me back into Saxon, and everything from Lionheart on has been excellent. I would say that this is easily the weakest album since the pre Lionheart days. It feels kind of rushed. It does have an old school feel and is warm in spots. Maybe it'll grow on me. I hope it does. There's some groovy parts, but I found myself wanting to skip through tracks.
If I had to pick a favorite track, it'd be A Wizard's Tale.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2018, 08:51:16 PM: I ordered the new Saxon today, will arrive Tuesday!

And that was a good song that Tim posted. Never heard of Universe, but that's what is cool about YouTube; once you find an obscure band, there will be related links to other obscure bands.

Universe, Alien, Witch Cross, Trance, Alien Force, Madison, Virtue and Trance are some of the related ones on that link.

Brent, I know you are on another level than anyone on earth, but have you heard of all these bands?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 02, 2018, 11:32:40 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 02, 2018, 08:51:16 PM
I ordered the new Saxon today, will arrive Tuesday!

And that was a good song that Tim posted. Never heard of Universe, but that's what is cool about YouTube; once you find an obscure band, there will be related links to other obscure bands.

Universe, Alien, Witch Cross, Trance, Alien Force, Madison, Virtue and Trance are some of the related ones on that link.

Brent, I know you are on another level than anyone on earth, but have you heard of all these bands?

yeah..............I think I have heard all those bands but not two bands named Trance ;D

As far as what I own - only Universe, Alien, Trance and Madison. That's probably because I wasn't fussed about the others but would have to check.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2018, 11:40:55 PM: I really wanted to emphasize Trance lol

Are any of these bands NWOBHM bands? Because I know there was a shitload of obscure bands from that era
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2018, 03:46:53 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YMf90Kbcok&feature=youtu.be

New Blaze song. This is a pretty good song, but it has the issue that the last two had and that is thin and weak production. The material on both the last two have been really quite good but the production lets it down.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 04, 2018, 06:19:15 AM: I don't mind the production.
While it does seem to be on the thin side of the spectrum, at least every instrument, especially the bass, is clear. I prefer that than something heavier and muddier.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 04, 2018, 07:32:42 AM: Seems like they are crammed in there pretty good lol.........not much room to play their instruments
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Post by: Lowdz on February 04, 2018, 01:33:31 PM: I just don’t get it. Awful voice. Nothing to like.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 04, 2018, 02:34:57 PM: I'm sure that Tim's already on to this one , but a new box set release

https://youtu.be/GPEscKq3Z5Y
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 04, 2018, 02:38:39 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 04, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
I'm sure that Tim's already on to this one , but a new box set release

https://youtu.be/GPEscKq3Z5Y

Without even clicking, I'm pretty sure I'm NOT already on to it! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 04, 2018, 02:43:58 PM: I think someone might have clicked :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 04, 2018, 03:04:50 PM: Nope. I did not click on that dreamy video! :censored
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2018, 03:07:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 04, 2018, 02:43:58 PM
I think someone might have clicked :lol

To be fair, I did give Tim the heads up a week or so ago that it was coming so he actually might not have clicked. :lol

Quote from: Lowdz on February 04, 2018, 01:33:31 PM
I just don’t get it. Awful voice. Nothing to like.

It's just something about the production because even though I haven't minded the material in the last couple of albums I haven't been a fan of his vocals. But if you listen to Messiah and Dimension his voice sounds great. It's just something with this production and/or mixing if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 04, 2018, 03:21:49 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 04, 2018, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 04, 2018, 02:43:58 PM
I think someone might have clicked :lol

To be fair, I did give Tim the heads up a week or so ago that it was coming so he actually might not have clicked. :lol

So he was already on to it :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2018, 04:25:40 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 04, 2018, 03:21:49 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 04, 2018, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 04, 2018, 02:43:58 PM
I think someone might have clicked :lol

To be fair, I did give Tim the heads up a week or so ago that it was coming so he actually might not have clicked. :lol

So he was already on to it :metal

He saw that video before you did.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 04, 2018, 04:31:30 PM: I can always count on my two friends from Asstralia! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2018, 04:42:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 04, 2018, 04:31:30 PM
I can always count on my two friends from Asstralia! :lol

You forgot to check your spelling before posting mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 04, 2018, 07:45:19 PM: I haven't managed to find the Kiss comic JJ was talking about but for now............this is a nice piece :metal

if it's not obvious.................RIAA platinum award for Love Gun. The awardee's surname is Rabin but I haven't had much luck tracking down who he is other than he hangs around with Jean Beauvoir who wrote a few songs for KISS.

(https://s10.postimg.org/mw47df5uh/plat.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2018, 10:26:31 PM: That looks nice and shiny.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 04, 2018, 11:25:20 PM: If you have a VHS copy of Kiss Meets the Phantom Park that would be awesome. I know that movie is terrible, but I always dug it! From what I read Ace was never in any condition to be in any of the scenes and one of his stand ins was way bigger than him, but they had to use him because Ace was out to lunch.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 05, 2018, 01:58:26 AM: I couldn't ever bring myself to have anything to do with Phantom of the Park or anything related to it :lol Ace was often out to lunch - did you know he's a plumber ? ;D (for those of you that remember the classic Snyder interview)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 05, 2018, 02:29:20 AM: That interview is hilarious
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 04:36:32 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwk6Le7jHV0

More generic W.E.T. It's kind of better than the last one but we've heard it all before Erik.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 04:37:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 04:36:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwk6Le7jHV0

More generic W.E.T. It's kind of better than the last one but we've heard it all before Erik.

On behalf of the rest of us, thank you for torturing yourself so that we don't have to torture ourselves. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 04:47:54 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 04:37:52 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 04:36:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwk6Le7jHV0

More generic W.E.T. It's kind of better than the last one but we've heard it all before Erik.

On behalf of the rest of us, thank you for torturing yourself so that we don't have to torture ourselves. :lol

I am a team player and warrior amonst our men through and through Chad. It is my privilage to stand up and stand in front of the bullets from the Frontiers factory armoury. I will take the hits time and time again for my fellow true metal brothers and then stand back up and fight for the metal and hard rock that is right, if that means taking more hits, than I shall do that. We are brothers in arms and false metal and melodic rock needs to be exposed and frowned upon by the one true contingent of metal men that matter, the DTF hard rock brotherhood!!!!

Sorry, it's late and I need to get up in 6 hours......... :mehlin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 05:04:05 AM: Word.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2018, 11:21:32 AM: Bit of a random thought but I was doing a usb stick for the car of my top 50 albums. I’ve also recently done my top 49 albums of 87, 88 and 89 as picture collages for Facebook. What I noticed was, my top 50 only had 10 or 11 albums from those years and that surprised me.

Sorry for the rambling, as you were. 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2018, 12:30:57 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 06, 2018, 11:21:32 AM
Bit of a random thought but I was doing a usb stick for the car of my top 50 albums. I’ve also recently done my top 49 albums of 87, 88 and 89 as picture collages for Facebook. What I noticed was, my top 50 only had 10 or 11 albums from those years and that surprised me.

How old are you?? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2018, 01:27:26 PM: :blush :blush :blush :blush
50 last Saturday... but 17 when it comes to music :metal, and in my defence it as in response to a Facebook friend doing theirs. Yeah, that doesn’t make it any better :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 01:42:59 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 06, 2018, 01:27:26 PM
:blush :blush :blush :blush
50 last Saturday... but 17 when it comes to music :metal, and in my defence it as in response to a Facebook friend doing theirs. Yeah, that doesn’t make it any better :)

Happy Birthday mate!! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2018, 01:46:32 PM: Yeah, happy birthday!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2018, 01:47:11 PM: Cheers gents :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 01:58:24 PM: Already did my b-day wishes... ya know ... ON HIS BIRTHDAY!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 02:11:05 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Already did my b-day wishes... ya know ... ON HIS BIRTHDAY!

Nice work Chad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2018, 02:27:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 02:11:05 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Already did my b-day wishes... ya know ... ON HIS BIRTHDAY!

Nice work Chad.

So awesome Chad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 02:39:27 PM: (https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/400x/39049448/keep-up-the-good-work-chad.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 02:39:49 PM: (https://media.makeameme.org/created/nice-work-chad.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on February 06, 2018, 02:44:16 PM: (https://i.imgflip.com/242yao.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2018, 02:48:40 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 02:58:14 PM: (https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/23/2300e927e5f3aac4ab1e401030c615763d2b27173e0f608f8b5c1e6be0fb11cc.jpg)

For a guy that doesn't know what last.fm is, or have a FB account, you sure can make a meme better than most interwebz users Tim.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2018, 02:58:24 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2018, 03:02:03 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/23/2300e927e5f3aac4ab1e401030c615763d2b27173e0f608f8b5c1e6be0fb11cc.jpg)

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 03:02:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/23/2300e927e5f3aac4ab1e401030c615763d2b27173e0f608f8b5c1e6be0fb11cc.jpg)

For a guy that doesn't know what last.fm is, or have a FB account, you sure can make a meme better than most interwebz users Tim.

I don't know what last.fm is, don't have a facebook account and wouldn't have a clue how to make a meme, and am not even middle age, I think I'm fucked.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 03:07:59 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/23/2300e927e5f3aac4ab1e401030c615763d2b27173e0f608f8b5c1e6be0fb11cc.jpg)

For a guy that doesn't know what last.fm is, or have a FB account, you sure can make a meme better than most interwebz users Tim.

I don't know what last.fm is, don't have a facebook account and wouldn't have a clue how to make a meme, and am not even middle age, I think I'm fucked.

Hey Kade... Tim has hacked your account. Might want to change your password from shesonly17
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 03:19:04 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/23/2300e927e5f3aac4ab1e401030c615763d2b27173e0f608f8b5c1e6be0fb11cc.jpg)

For a guy that doesn't know what last.fm is, or have a FB account, you sure can make a meme better than most interwebz users Tim.

I don't know what last.fm is, don't have a facebook account and wouldn't have a clue how to make a meme, and am not even middle age, I think I'm fucked.

Hey Kade... Tim has hacked your account. Might want to change your password from shesonly17

Tim can hack my account anytime. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2018, 03:29:15 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/23/2300e927e5f3aac4ab1e401030c615763d2b27173e0f608f8b5c1e6be0fb11cc.jpg)

For a guy that doesn't know what last.fm is, or have a FB account, you sure can make a meme better than most interwebz users Tim.

I don't know what last.fm is, don't have a facebook account and wouldn't have a clue how to make a meme, and am not even middle age, I think I'm fucked.

Hey Kade... Tim has hacked your account. Might want to change your password from shesonly17

(https://i.imgflip.com/2432bd.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 03:36:26 PM: hack can accounts??
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Post by: TAC on February 06, 2018, 03:37:15 PM: Gee that didn't come out right.. :lol

That meme takes on a whole new meaning, doesn't it? :lol

Damn Winger!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2018, 03:37:48 PM: Your Winger finger is a zinger.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2018, 03:38:30 PM: Hope it doesn't linger.
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Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 03:39:18 PM: Give Tim Kip in the ringer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on February 06, 2018, 04:02:08 PM: the hell is a can account?!?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 04:09:31 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on February 06, 2018, 04:02:08 PM
the hell is a can account?!?

I dunno, but Tim's got one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 06, 2018, 10:22:56 PM: :rollin alright guys, you made my day, better than the funny thread :lol :lol :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 07, 2018, 02:18:01 AM: Saxon- Thunderbolt = :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

And I think I found Kade's all time favorite Saxon song. "Predator", a Saxon song with some death metal vocals in the background!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 03:42:25 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 07, 2018, 02:18:01 AM
Saxon- Thunderbolt = :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

And I think I found Kade's all time favorite Saxon song. "Predator", a Saxon song with some death metal vocals in the background!!

Get the fuck outta here!? I have to work the next two weekends so dunno when I'm gonna be able to pick this up.

How do you rate it compared to Battering Ram mate? Tim's assesment wasn't promising but I have faith.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 07, 2018, 04:55:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 03:42:25 AM
Get the fuck outta here!? I have to work the next two weekends so dunno when I'm gonna be able to pick this up.

Spotify is your friend.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 07, 2018, 07:13:13 AM: First two listens I would rate it slightly above Battering Ram but below Sacrifice.

There is some heavy tunes on this bad boy and Saxon just doesn't slow down
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 02:59:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 07, 2018, 07:13:13 AM
First two listens I would rate it slightly above Battering Ram but below Sacrifice.

There is some heavy tunes on this bad boy and Saxon just doesn't slow down

Fuckin nice.

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 07, 2018, 04:55:02 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 03:42:25 AM
Get the fuck outta here!? I have to work the next two weekends so dunno when I'm gonna be able to pick this up.

Spotify is your friend.

For some reason I just can't take to it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2018, 03:05:42 PM: Let me know when you change your mind and I'll sell my JB Hifi shares ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 03:11:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 07, 2018, 03:05:42 PM
Let me know when you change your mind and I'll sell my JB Hifi shares ;)

Make me an offer! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2018, 03:15:59 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 03:42:25 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 07, 2018, 02:18:01 AM
Saxon- Thunderbolt = :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

And I think I found Kade's all time favorite Saxon song. "Predator", a Saxon song with some death metal vocals in the background!!

Get the fuck outta here!? I have to work the next two weekends so dunno when I'm gonna be able to pick this up.

How do you rate it compared to Battering Ram mate? Tim's assesment wasn't promising but I have faith.

I don't think it's as strong as Battering Ram. And I'm not saying it sucks or anything. I would simply rank it last in the post Lionheart era.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 03:27:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2018, 03:15:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 03:42:25 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 07, 2018, 02:18:01 AM
Saxon- Thunderbolt = :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

And I think I found Kade's all time favorite Saxon song. "Predator", a Saxon song with some death metal vocals in the background!!

Get the fuck outta here!? I have to work the next two weekends so dunno when I'm gonna be able to pick this up.

How do you rate it compared to Battering Ram mate? Tim's assesment wasn't promising but I have faith.

I don't think it's as strong as Battering Ram. And I'm not saying it sucks or anything. I would simply rank it last in the post Lionheart era.

I guess I read that more negative than what it came across Tim. I'd be disappointed if it were weaker than Call to Arms, IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2018, 03:28:37 PM: I actually like Call To Arms. But you'll definitely like it more than that. It just feels rushed to me.
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Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 04:02:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2018, 03:28:37 PM
I actually like Call To Arms. But you'll definitely like it more than that. It just feels rushed to me.

That seemed by far the weakest to me from the later stuff so far, but I can't recall much so might need a revisit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2018, 04:05:37 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 04:02:06 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2018, 03:28:37 PM
I actually like Call To Arms. But you'll definitely like it more than that. It just feels rushed to me.

That seemed by far the weakest to me from the later stuff so far, but I can't recall much so might need a revisit.

It was certainly the least heavy. Thunderbolt is definitely heavier.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 04:13:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2018, 04:05:37 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 04:02:06 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2018, 03:28:37 PM
I actually like Call To Arms. But you'll definitely like it more than that. It just feels rushed to me.

That seemed by far the weakest to me from the later stuff so far, but I can't recall much so might need a revisit.

It was certainly the least heavy. Thunderbolt is definitely heavier.

Good enough for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 08, 2018, 12:57:01 AM: It's way beyond "solid" if that helps Kade
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2018, 04:01:16 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 08, 2018, 12:57:01 AM
It's way beyond "solid" if that helps Kade

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2018, 01:48:47 PM: New Borealis!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqlqxJaEzhM

Nothing new here but pretty damn nice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2018, 06:38:22 PM: Pat Torpey RIP

https://bravewords.com/news/pat-torpey-founding-member-of-mr-big-dies-at-64

:omg:
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Post by: bl5150 on February 08, 2018, 06:57:03 PM: Sad news............I knew he was struggling with Parkinson's but didn't realise that it was that grave. :-\
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 08, 2018, 07:12:18 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 08, 2018, 06:57:03 PM
Sad news............I knew he was struggling with Parkinson's but didn't realise that it was that grave. :-\

My thoughts exactly.
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Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2018, 10:37:13 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 08, 2018, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 08, 2018, 06:57:03 PM
Sad news............I knew he was struggling with Parkinson's but didn't realise that it was that grave. :-\

My thoughts exactly.

Fuck, same here. RIP mate. :'(
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 08, 2018, 11:41:54 PM: This comes as a sad surprise, I also knew about the Parkinson disease but never imagined it this being this serious.

Saw him a couple of time with Mr. Big, very good drummer and he had one of the most interesting solo spots I've ever seen at concerts.

RIP.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2018, 02:35:11 AM: On a brighter note, producer to the stars and podcaster extraordinairre Mr Ben turned 10 years old today :metal

That t-shirt came all the way from Berlin

(https://s9.postimg.org/v8acmpnqn/ben_priest.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2018, 02:57:29 AM: Metal Ben! :metal

Speaking of metal, I can't get over how kick ass that new Stryper tune is. Once you hear the new song, that chorus will be stuck in your head for the rest of the day!
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Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2018, 04:23:32 AM: Happy Birthday Ben!!

That shirt!! :metal :hefdaddy
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Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2018, 04:36:14 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 09, 2018, 02:57:29 AM
Metal Ben! :metal

Speaking of metal, I can't get over how kick ass that new Stryper tune is. Once you hear the new song, that chorus will be stuck in your head for the rest of the day!

As I said in the other thread, it seems pretty silly with that chorus but it definitely is catchy. Just seems tacked on and doesn't really fit with the song, but I appreciate the heavier approach.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 09, 2018, 04:58:46 AM: DTF wishes Ben a kickass birthday. He's already got the musical taste (and shirt) for it.

Quote from: wolfking on February 08, 2018, 01:48:47 PM
New Borealis!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqlqxJaEzhM

Nothing new here but pretty damn nice.

Agreed. Will be a day 1 purchase for me.

Guess I need to spin up that Stryper.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2018, 06:59:45 AM: I've read a lot of the comments for that Stryper song and the opinions are truly split. Half hate it, half love it! But the bottom line is people are talking about a new Stryper album and new Stryper song
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Post by: TAC on February 09, 2018, 02:04:45 PM: New Schenker track
https://bravewords.com/news/michael-schenker-fest-release-lyric-video-for-new-song-heart-and-soul-featuring-metallica-guitarist-kirk-hammett

Schenker sounds great, as does Robin McCauley.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 09, 2018, 02:43:30 PM: Just popping in to say I l8ked the Saxon. Not keen on the growls on that one song, just didn’t add anything but I could ignore them as it wasn’t too in your face.

One of the songs was a dead ringer for a track off Power and Glory.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2018, 05:56:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 09, 2018, 02:43:30 PM
Just popping in to say I l8ked the Saxon. Not keen on the growls on that one song, just didn’t add anything but I could ignore them as it wasn’t too in your face.

One of the songs was a dead ringer for a track off Power and Glory.

I'm really liking the new Saxon too.

And between growls showing up on the new Saxon album along with the new Stryper, maybe Kade is onto something :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 09, 2018, 09:15:31 PM: I gave the Saxon album another listen. I stand by my first impression. For me, this is by far their worst album since the Pre Lionheart days.
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2018, 03:53:23 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 09, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 09, 2018, 02:43:30 PM
Just popping in to say I l8ked the Saxon. Not keen on the growls on that one song, just didn’t add anything but I could ignore them as it wasn’t too in your face.

One of the songs was a dead ringer for a track off Power and Glory.

I'm really liking the new Saxon too.

And between growls showing up on the new Saxon album along with the new Stryper, maybe Kade is onto something :lol

Oh yeah. My persistence may be slowly paying off hey j? :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2018, 06:04:46 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 09, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
And between growls showing up on the new Saxon album along with the new Stryper, maybe Kade is onto something :lol

(https://replygif.net/i/326.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 10, 2018, 06:05:46 AM: :rollin
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2018, 06:31:32 AM: So I just stumbled across the 'Gotthard" greatest hits release (out Feb 23... 3 singles released already) that is being tagged as "Coreleoni", with Romero on vox. Since I don't know much (any) Gotthard, I'm looking forward to this.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2018, 06:49:21 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 10, 2018, 06:31:32 AM
So I just stumbled across the 'Gotthard" greatest hits release (out Feb 23... 3 singles released already) that is being tagged as "Coreleoni", with Romero on vox. Since I don't know much (any) Gotthard, I'm looking forward to this.

I'm familiar with Gotthard's first few albums, and from what they've released of this so far, they're sounding like decent and faithful versions of the songs, and Ronnie Romero's a great fit. I don't know how he'll fare on the really high vocals, but his tone is definitely right.
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Post by: TAC on February 10, 2018, 03:57:11 PM: Happy birthday to Ben, Brent!
What an awesome age!

(https://i.imgflip.com/24c7ey.jpg)

(https://i.imgflip.com/24c7l0.jpg)
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Post by: Lowdz on February 10, 2018, 06:36:08 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 10, 2018, 06:31:32 AM
So I just stumbled across the 'Gotthard" greatest hits release (out Feb 23... 3 singles released already) that is being tagged as "Coreleoni", with Romero on vox. Since I don't know much (any) Gotthard, I'm looking forward to this.

Early Gotthard was pretty good. Very Whitesnake-y iirc

And happy birthday to Ben 🤘 all the best people have their birthday in February 😀
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Post by: TAC on February 10, 2018, 06:38:19 PM: Heard one of the CoreLeone tracks on Bravewords the other day and it absolutely blew.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2018, 07:58:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 10, 2018, 06:38:19 PM
Heard one of the CoreLeone tracks on Bravewords the other day and it absolutely blew.

Which one, this one? I thought it was pretty good, but then again, I'm a pretty big Romero fanboi.

https://youtu.be/Irc5j1gkihY?t=4
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Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2018, 09:43:08 AM: Ben thanks you all very much for the birthday wishes.

I showed him the thread a couple of days back and showed him the posts from Chad,Jay, Kade etc..... At that stage Tim hadn't posted and he said " so what about Tim - I want another voucher this year" and I told him to just wait..............and Tim didn't disappoint :lol :tup

I just realised that this weekend the 40th anniversary of one of the most influential hard rock albums ever ticked over

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0d/Van_Halen_album.jpg/220px-Van_Halen_album.jpg)
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Post by: Lowdz on February 11, 2018, 10:30:11 AM: Never heard of it...
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Post by: TAC on February 11, 2018, 11:02:07 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 11, 2018, 09:43:08 AM
Ben thanks you all very much for the birthday wishes.

I showed him the thread a couple of days back and showed him the posts from Chad,Jay, Kade etc..... At that stage Tim hadn't posted and he said " so what about Tim - I want another voucher this year" and I told him to just wait..............and Tim didn't disappoint :lol :tup
:tup :tup :tup

Quote from: Lowdz on February 11, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
Never heard of it...

:lol
Beat me to it!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 11, 2018, 01:27:25 PM: That Van Halen debut is solid
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Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2018, 04:15:38 PM: I should really go back through the early VH albums and give them more attention. I just never understood the appeal. I don't mind a lot of their stuff but I don't know, somethings missing for me.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2018, 06:40:27 PM: As per request Jay - my #1 1978 KISS "blood" comic

I snapped one of the ads - Hit Parader was always a metal mag for me as a kid so it was pretty cool to see Eric Clapton on the cover

(https://s10.postimg.org/waf8htuk9/IMG_0842.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/mpvluyknt/IMG_0843.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/rbrq3bdwp/IMG_0844.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/4n2j3r48p/IMG_0845.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on February 11, 2018, 06:44:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 11, 2018, 06:40:27 PM
(https://s10.postimg.org/rbrq3bdwp/IMG_0844.jpg)

Look at Ace's face. He's the only one without his mouth open. $10 says he's getting heroin. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2018, 06:46:07 PM: :lol He does look very relaxed .
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2018, 02:24:40 AM: Just seen on Facebook that Glenn Tipton has Parkinson’s and won’t be playing much on the tour. Andy Sneap is standing in. Parkinson’s is a bastard

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialJudasPriest/posts/10156029516983965
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Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2018, 03:39:39 AM: Damn - although I gotta say I have suspected as much for a while.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2018, 03:43:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 12, 2018, 03:39:39 AM
Damn - although I gotta say I have suspected as much for a while.

Yeah, can’t say it was a shock looking at video footage the last few years.
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2018, 04:08:22 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 12, 2018, 03:39:39 AM
Damn - although I gotta say I have suspected as much for a while.

I suspected something was up too but didn't think it was this severe. His playing on the last DVD was very sloppy and I always wondered why Richie handled most leads on ROS. A new guy slotting straight in and becoming the lead guy was strange. I thought it was just Glen slowing down and it was but this is a terrible reason. I love this dude and he'd be one of my top 5 fav guitarists, so sad. :'(
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2018, 07:51:06 AM: I had mentioned in the Priest thread that this seemingly will make Firepower extra special as its likely the last Priest album.

But total respect for Glenn to be playing through this for the last decade :metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2018, 02:39:50 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 12, 2018, 07:51:06 AM
I had mentioned in the Priest thread that this seemingly will make Firepower extra special as its likely the last Priest album.

But total respect for Glenn to be playing through this for the last decade :metal

You're right Jason, this has to be the last Priest record, you would think, and surely they wouldn't record without Glen. Man this is hitting me hard. To have such a talent the way he plays and to slowly lose it with no control is just terrible. Sounds like his attitude is unreal though and you couldn't ask for anything else.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2018, 04:01:31 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 12, 2018, 02:39:50 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 12, 2018, 07:51:06 AM
I had mentioned in the Priest thread that this seemingly will make Firepower extra special as its likely the last Priest album.

But total respect for Glenn to be playing through this for the last decade :metal

You're right Jason, this has to be the last Priest record, you would think, and surely they wouldn't record without Glen. Man this is hitting me hard. To have such a talent the way he plays and to slowly lose it with no control is just terrible. Sounds like his attitude is unreal though and you couldn't ask for anything else.

This.
It’s such an awful disease for anyone, but a musician? Cruel. I really felt for Pat Torpey as a drummer who had the ultimate control over his limbs to lose that... just awful.
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2018, 06:01:27 PM: Check this chick out!

https://bravewords.com/news/jinjer-launch-official-live-video-for-cloud-factory
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Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2018, 02:57:56 AM: Her looks are the only thing that’s got going for it.

Video nearly brought on epilepsy and the music was awful.
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Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2018, 04:48:46 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2018, 06:01:27 PM
Check this chick out!

https://bravewords.com/news/jinjer-launch-official-live-video-for-cloud-factory

Can I ask why you felt the need to post this Tim?
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Post by: TAC on February 16, 2018, 04:56:46 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2018, 04:48:46 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2018, 06:01:27 PM
Check this chick out!

https://bravewords.com/news/jinjer-launch-official-live-video-for-cloud-factory

Can I ask why you felt the need to post this Tim?

:lol

I seriously don’t have no good answer.

On one hand, she is smoking, but that voice :facepalm:
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Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2018, 04:59:49 AM: Yes, very appealing on the eye, but her vocals were weak. She's an Arch Enemy wannabe, but is sexy indeed.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2018, 09:04:49 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 16, 2018, 04:56:46 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2018, 04:48:46 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 15, 2018, 06:01:27 PM
Check this chick out!

https://bravewords.com/news/jinjer-launch-official-live-video-for-cloud-factory

Can I ask why you felt the need to post this Tim?

:lol

I seriously don’t have no good answer.

On one hand, she is smoking, but that voice :facepalm:

I think the phrase “on one hand” tells us all we need to know ::)
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Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2018, 09:06:35 AM: Second listen to the Voodoo Circle was better. Some great stuff on it, but would be so much better without the stolen riffs. When they don’t do that, they have some excellent stuff. Enjoyed the singer more this time round.

Listened to the new album by Emir Hot. The lyrics are not English which makes things more difficult to love, but I really enjoyed it.

https://youtu.be/xgUvWQm616w
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2018, 07:35:29 PM: Listened to some classic heavy metal while travelling the last couple of days!

Armored Saint-Raising Fear
Accept-The Rise Of Chaos
Saxon-Lionheart
Megadeth- So Far So Good So What
Slayer-Seasons In The Abyss
Flotsam & Jetsam-No Place For Disgrace
Judas Priest-Painkiller
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2018, 08:31:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 18, 2018, 07:35:29 PM
Listened to some classic heavy metal while travelling the last couple of days!

Armored Saint-Raising Fear
Accept-The Rise Of Chaos
Saxon-Lionheart
Megadeth- So Far So Good So What
Slayer-Seasons In The Abyss
Flotsam & Jetsam-No Place For Disgrace
Judas Priest-Painkiller

Only ones I can't comment on are the AS and F&J but the rest are amazing.

This whole news with Tipton has me on a Priest binge too, rediscovering all the old stuff. Chucked Metal Works on in the car for a good collection of Priest heavy metal!!
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Post by: TAC on February 19, 2018, 05:37:16 AM: Kade, the Armored Saint is my take off music. As soon as the plane starts down the runway, I blast Raising Fear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68bfhqCLFcs

Seasons is one of the best air drumming albums ever.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2018, 05:46:23 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 19, 2018, 05:37:16 AM
Kade, the Armored Saint is my take off music. As soon as the plane starts down the runway, I blast Raising Fear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68bfhqCLFcs

Tim singing out loud as the plane is taking off...........

"He's got your number - with all your peers you're going down" :metal

(https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/canada/2010/05/16/fighter_jets_escort_cathay_plane_to_vancouver_after_bomb_threat/fighter_jets_interceptplane.jpeg.size.custom.crop.1086x732.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2018, 02:19:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 19, 2018, 05:37:16 AM
Kade, the Armored Saint is my take off music. As soon as the plane starts down the runway, I blast Raising Fear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68bfhqCLFcs

Seasons is one of the best air drumming albums ever.

:lol I'll check it Tim.
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Post by: TAC on February 19, 2018, 06:08:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 18, 2018, 07:35:29 PM
Listened to some classic heavy metal while travelling the last couple of days!

Armored Saint-Raising Fear
Accept-The Rise Of Chaos
Saxon-Lionheart
Megadeth- So Far So Good So What
Slayer-Seasons In The Abyss
Flotsam & Jetsam-No Place For Disgrace
Judas Priest-Painkiller

Armored Saint...Joey Vera is ridiculous on this album
Accept- Excellent album, but have they not released the same album 4 times in a row?
Saxon-The album that got me back into them
Megadeth- I see some may rate this fairly low, but this is easily my fave. In My Darkest Hour and Mary Jane are 2 of my top 3 Mega tracks.
Slayer-As I said, the greatest metal air drumming album.
F&J-Way underrated thrash album. A TAC Favorite.
Judas Priest-Rob's best album.

Here's a shot from the TACation. (Animal Kingdom at Disney World)

(https://i.imgur.com/jLMFV8u.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2018, 10:32:53 PM: Your wife is a good sort.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 20, 2018, 02:20:43 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 19, 2018, 10:32:53 PM
Your wife is a good sort.

After seeing the pic I read at first: Your wife is a good short. :laugh:
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 20, 2018, 03:11:47 AM: Nice Tim!

You're right about the last 4 Accept albums! All of them are great, but they are pretty interchangeable. But I don't really have a problem with that lol.

If you got back into Saxon with Lionheart, where did you lose them for awhile?

I agree with Painkiller being Halfords best vocal performance of his career. He is just on fire with that album.

I've never been much of a Slayer fan, if you want to talk about a band that sounds samey, that's one band that comes to mind. The title track to that album is very good though. I saw them live once and I spent most of the time just watching all the loogans beating the snot out of each other in the mosh pit from the safety of the stands lol. Megadeth opened and they were kick ass!

Don't know a lot about F&J but really liked what I heard from that latest album last year!

And Armored Saint is all kinds of awesome!!!
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Post by: TAC on February 20, 2018, 08:13:14 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 20, 2018, 03:11:47 AM

If you got back into Saxon with Lionheart, where did you lose them for awhile?

I bought Innocence Is No Excuse when it came out. I didn’t like it. A lot of bands wimped out at that time. I did see them in a club in 1987 I think. I just lost touch with them after that. I think I read a review of Lionheart and blind bought it. Been re-hooked ever since.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 20, 2018, 11:32:50 AM: Jaded Heart single - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9gsg-WQlI&feature=youtu.be

I'm going to lean towards the TAC end of things, that this sucks.

See.... this is why I don't like listening to singles and having expectations lowered before the whole album drops.
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Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2018, 02:36:20 PM: I have a couple of Jaded Heart albums but nothing from them has really excited me at all. I find them pretty bland and generic.
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Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2018, 03:56:52 AM: New Gus G album on April 20. This time with Dennis Ward on vox, could be interesting. I liked his first one a lot but the second solo album was very very average.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 21, 2018, 04:42:44 AM: Just got through the "new" Voodoo Circle - pleasant enough listen but no real desire to return any time soon.

When it finished it ticked over to the opening track off Whiskey Fingers and I thought WTF - it's repeating? Nah - the riff of the opening track on the new album is almost exactly the same as the opener on that album which is almost the same as Bad Boys :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 21, 2018, 04:48:21 AM: And am I missing something, but does Herbie sound like a dead ringer for Jorn on a few tracks? I tried to find out if Jorn was doing any of the vocals, but couldn't find info confirming that.

None-the-less, I really dug it.
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Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2018, 02:51:59 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 21, 2018, 04:48:21 AM
And am I missing something, but does Herbie sound like a dead ringer for Jorn on a few tracks? I tried to find out if Jorn was doing any of the vocals, but couldn't find info confirming that.

None-the-less, I really dug it.

Well it's the same band, did they just copy and paste a track from the last Jorn record? Wouldn't surprise me.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2018, 05:12:28 AM: Ben bought his first ever CD from his own money today.

What else..........

(https://cdn-s3.allmusic.com/release-covers/500/0004/073/0004073844.jpg)

.....and went to bed cranking Breaking The Law :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2018, 05:31:25 AM: (https://i.imgur.com/RxcVK50.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2018, 05:37:14 AM: :)

His mum seems concerned :biggrin:
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Post by: Bolsters on February 23, 2018, 05:44:54 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 23, 2018, 05:31:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/RxcVK50.jpg)
:2metal:
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Post by: TAC on February 23, 2018, 06:06:56 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2018, 07:10:40 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 23, 2018, 05:37:14 AM
:)

His mum seems concerned :biggrin:

Screw her. Fatherhood: Brent is doing it right.
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Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2018, 02:39:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 23, 2018, 05:12:28 AM
Ben bought his first ever CD from his own money today.

What else..........

(https://cdn-s3.allmusic.com/release-covers/500/0004/073/0004073844.jpg)

.....and went to bed cranking Breaking The Law :lol

Is that 4 specific albums Brent or like a 4 disc random compilation?

Since Glen's news I've been on a Priest binge, feels so good I could explode. Ben knows what the fuck is up.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2018, 05:57:00 PM: A compilation Kade - more intended as a "best of" than random I'd imagine. I checked the tracklist first of course..........missing quite a few tracks I'd prefer on there but not a bad deal for $20.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2520/7536/products/product-image-482455175_1200x1200.jpg?v=1515555228)
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Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2018, 06:16:28 PM: Pretty solid mate, strange that they didn't fill up the cd's more though. And yet another compilation completely ignoring the Ripper stuff, but thats no surprise.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 23, 2018, 07:23:34 PM: yeah strange they didn't add more songs to each disc, but still a cool set
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Post by: gazinwales on February 23, 2018, 11:13:31 PM: JB are selling a 5 album in cardboard sleeve set for $21.99.
Has Sin/Steel/Turbo/Ram/Angel all remastered with bonus tracks.
I picked it up as I didn't have any JP albums in my collection.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2018, 03:53:08 AM: New Riot.........no surprises - sounds like they're in good form

https://youtu.be/pZkUCklg5Bs
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Post by: Lowdz on February 24, 2018, 10:37:47 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 23, 2018, 07:23:34 PM
yeah strange they didn't add more songs to each disc, but still a cool set

Would have fit on 2 cds.

Nice work though Ben. Great start.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 24, 2018, 06:14:32 PM: I just listened for the first time probably since the late 90's, Van Halen's "How Many Say I" from VH3.

This song is just pure tripe and has to Van Halen's worst song in their entire discography.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2018, 06:41:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 24, 2018, 06:14:32 PM
I just listened for the first time probably since the late 90's, Van Halen's "How Many Say I" from VH3.

This song is just pure tripe and has to Van Halen's worst song in their entire discography.

Serves you right for putting that album in. It's the Frquency Unknown of VH albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 24, 2018, 07:08:10 PM: Was just listening to some Van Halen songs on youtube and it included this hunk of shit.

One I Want, Without You and Fire in the Hole are decent from that album, but that was it.
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Post by: KevShmev on February 24, 2018, 10:51:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 24, 2018, 06:14:32 PM
I just listened for the first time probably since the late 90's, Van Halen's "How Many Say I" from VH3.

This song is just pure tripe and has to Van Halen's worst song in their entire discography.

EVH singing it was a mistake, but I don't think it's that bad. The music is quite nice. I just think EVH's vocals do not help its cause.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 25, 2018, 01:50:38 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 24, 2018, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 24, 2018, 06:14:32 PM
I just listened for the first time probably since the late 90's, Van Halen's "How Many Say I" from VH3.

This song is just pure tripe and has to Van Halen's worst song in their entire discography.

Serves you right for putting that album in. It's the Frquency Unknown of VH albums.

Although VH III is far from AOTY this comparison is quite unfair.
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Post by: TAC on February 25, 2018, 03:40:40 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 23, 2018, 05:12:28 AM
Ben bought his first ever CD from his own money today.

So I just got home from vacation so I'm going to try and catch up...

Awesome purchase!

I made my first album purchase with my own money when I was Ben's age. Mine was KISS Alive II.

Does everyone remember their first..um...purchase?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2018, 03:45:19 PM: KISS Killers 1982 (8yo) - still have the cassette.
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Post by: TAC on February 25, 2018, 03:46:21 PM: I still have my KISS Alive II vinyl.
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Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2018, 04:15:35 PM: It was Iron Maiden but can't recall which one, might have been TNOTB.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 25, 2018, 05:31:00 PM: Meat Loaf - Dead Ringer. Then KISS Creatures of the Night.
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Post by: TAC on February 25, 2018, 06:57:13 PM: So on my trip, one of the albums I ran through was Ozzy's Tribute live album.

Honestly I don't listen to this a lot.

I am very suspicious of the organicness of the vocals. They are way too good, especially when he sounds like ass every time he speaks into the mike.
I checked the Cleveland boot, and Ozzy actually isn't bad, but these vocals are at least sent through a tuner, but I'm not buying this vocal as a live vocal.

And (puts on the flame suit) Randy is all over the place on this. Is it just me? I mean he is totally dialed in on Mr. Crowley, along with the band. But switching between lead and rhythm and back just comes accross as distracting. He does have a wicked sound though, especially on Believer.

To me, the true star of this album is Tommy Aldridge.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 25, 2018, 07:38:48 PM: Can't remember my first purchase - I do distinctly remember Supertramp/Live in Paris on vinyl - still have it. Never bought album cassettes. My first CD was DLR / Eat 'em and Smile.
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Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2018, 08:53:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 25, 2018, 06:57:13 PM
So on my trip, one of the albums I ran through was Ozzy's Tribute live album.

Honestly I don't listen to this a lot.

I am very suspicious of the organicness of the vocals. They are way too good, especially when he sounds like ass every time he speaks into the mike.
I checked the Cleveland boot, and Ozzy actually isn't bad, but these vocals are at least sent through a tuner, but I'm not buying this vocal as a live vocal.

And (puts on the flame suit) Randy is all over the place on this. Is it just me? I mean he is totally dialed in on Mr. Crowley, along with the band. But switching between lead and rhythm and back just comes accross as distracting. He does have a wicked sound though, especially on Believer.

To me, the true star of this album is Tommy Aldridge.

I haven't listened to it in years, so I can't comment. I always liked it though but I should get the cd out again.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 25, 2018, 11:42:29 PM: Never bought cassettes, my first vinyl was Dire Straits - Making Movies and my first CD was Best Of Level 42. Not very metal. :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on February 26, 2018, 03:28:30 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 25, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 25, 2018, 06:57:13 PM
So on my trip, one of the albums I ran through was Ozzy's Tribute live album.

Honestly I don't listen to this a lot.

I am very suspicious of the organicness of the vocals. They are way too good, especially when he sounds like ass every time he speaks into the mike.
I checked the Cleveland boot, and Ozzy actually isn't bad, but these vocals are at least sent through a tuner, but I'm not buying this vocal as a live vocal.

And (puts on the flame suit) Randy is all over the place on this. Is it just me? I mean he is totally dialed in on Mr. Crowley, along with the band. But switching between lead and rhythm and back just comes accross as distracting. He does have a wicked sound though, especially on Believer.

To me, the true star of this album is Tommy Aldridge.

I haven't listened to it in years, so I can't comment. I always liked it though but I should get the cd out again.

Always thought the vocals were redone. Did they have vocal tuners in those days capable of that?
Never noticed any issues with Randy tbh but it’s not an album I’ve played a huge amount.

His tone on there is immense though.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 26, 2018, 05:45:12 PM: I love everything about RRT even allowing for the doctoring , which - let's be honest - is more the done thing than the exception. KISS did it , Dokken did it ....but I love all those albums as it's more the live playing (or part therof ) that adds an extra level of energy. I do understand what Tim says about the way Randy adjusted to cope with rhythm and lead but from a guitarists point of view I felt he did a good job.

I have a feeling I might have given you the raw show sound Tim a while back? Still a great show IMO.
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Post by: TAC on February 26, 2018, 05:47:57 PM: Yes you did. I checked the vocals against it. He was actually really on too.
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Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2018, 04:02:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 26, 2018, 05:45:12 PM
I love everything about RRT even allowing for the doctoring , which - let's be honest - is more the done thing than the exception. KISS did it , Dokken did it ....but I love all those albums as it's more the live playing (or part therof ) that adds an extra level of energy. I do understand what Tim says about the way Randy adjusted to cope with rhythm and lead but from a guitarists point of view I felt he did a good job.

I have a feeling I might have given you the raw show sound Tim a while back? Still a great show IMO.

Yeah, I don't really care about the recording and cover ups on live albums. Priest did it also, as did WASP.
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Post by: ozzy554 on February 27, 2018, 06:48:42 AM: I've also heard the Cleveland bootleg and it was a solid show. Sure it had some typical Ozzy stuff for the time like not getting the lyrics right for Believer and Steal away the night, 2 songs that he usually did that with but overall he sounded pretty good.
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Post by: Grappler on February 27, 2018, 07:18:09 AM: I wish I could see this show, but I need to take a break from concerts with 2 little kids at home. Should be a killer set from Armored Saint, plus Act of Defiance!

:metal :metal

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28276628_1738027209550742_8254997044623286437_n.jpg?oh=35fbe5c602a1182804e759832f2e5f4b&oe=5B4534F1)
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Post by: Lowdz on February 27, 2018, 12:08:16 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on February 27, 2018, 06:48:42 AM
I've also heard the Cleveland bootleg and it was a solid show. Sure it had some typical Ozzy stuff for the time like not getting the lyrics right for Believer and Steal away the night, 2 songs that he usually did that with but overall he sounded pretty good.

I’ve never liked Believer. Crap song.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 27, 2018, 02:28:28 PM: Quote from: Grappler on February 27, 2018, 07:18:09 AM
I wish I could see this show, but I need to take a break from concerts with 2 little kids at home. Should be a killer set from Armored Saint, plus Act of Defiance!

:metal :metal

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28276628_1738027209550742_8254997044623286437_n.jpg?oh=35fbe5c602a1182804e759832f2e5f4b&oe=5B4534F1)

Very nice Grappler . DTF Top 50 album for me there - that'd be my ultimate Armored Saint show :metal
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Post by: TAC on February 27, 2018, 04:04:41 PM: Saw the original tour......TWICE! ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 27, 2018, 04:58:19 PM: That Armored Saint album is getting another re-issue on cd and vinyl!!

:metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2018, 08:05:56 PM: I guess I should check out that full album. The one song I got in my roulette was killer but didn't go through the whole thing. You guys obviously rate it very highly.
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Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2018, 04:14:44 AM: I'm listening to this Lione/Conti which up to the third track is very underwhelming but the reason I post is the verse melody in the third song You're Falling is a direct rip of Ryche's The Mission, bloody hell.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 28, 2018, 09:08:55 AM: https://youtu.be/57SNPbxi0r0

RATT with better vocals 😆
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Post by: Samsara on February 28, 2018, 09:29:46 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 27, 2018, 04:04:41 PM
Saw the original tour......TWICE! ;D

Lucky! I can't do Southern Cali. Already went down there once this year for Fates Warning (LA and San Diego) and going in September for Helloween. I can't do three trips. Sucks, but maybe they will do another leg. I have a feeling this is going to be recorded for a live blu-ray. Just a gut feeling.

Quote from: jjrock88 on February 27, 2018, 04:58:19 PM
That Armored Saint album is getting another re-issue on cd and vinyl!!

:metal

Yes they are, and it is an automatic pickup. I have the special 3 CD version they put out in 2003, but I just checked, and while it has a disc of four-track demos for the album tracks, it doesn't have the demos listed for this new version:

14. Medieval Nightmares (Demo)
15. Get Lost (Demo)
16. Toungue and Cheek (Demo)
17. Pirates (Demo)

>>>>>>So for those alone, it is worth it. Saint fucking slays. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2018, 02:27:27 PM: Worth buying another copy for 4 demo tracks? Holy moly, alright, I'll give this album a good spin tonight.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2018, 03:21:42 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 28, 2018, 09:08:55 AM
https://youtu.be/57SNPbxi0r0

RATT with better vocals 😆

Nice :)
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 28, 2018, 03:29:09 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 28, 2018, 09:08:55 AM
https://youtu.be/57SNPbxi0r0

RATT with better vocals 😆

Awesomesauce
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Post by: TAC on February 28, 2018, 03:35:41 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 28, 2018, 09:08:55 AM
https://youtu.be/57SNPbxi0r0

RATT with better vocals 😆

Holy shit! I was NOT expecting that! :lol

Fucking awesome!
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Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2018, 04:05:24 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 28, 2018, 09:08:55 AM
https://youtu.be/57SNPbxi0r0

RATT with better vocals 😆

This is brilliant!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 28, 2018, 08:03:36 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 28, 2018, 09:08:55 AM
https://youtu.be/57SNPbxi0r0

RATT with better vocals 😆

:lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 04:10:24 AM: Check out this awful live video from the new Dokken DVD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajTfrGK1lj8

Awful because of the overly blatant overdubbing of Don's vox. Surely they don't think they are kidding anyone here?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 02, 2018, 04:14:41 AM: Even Don Dokktored sounds shit :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 04:17:19 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 02, 2018, 04:14:41 AM
Even Don Dokktored sounds shit :lol

:lol

Dead Dokken.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 02, 2018, 06:22:34 AM: It just seems like Don is going through the motions big time and really couldn't care less.

I will stick with the first Beast from the East, which kicks ass
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Post by: bl5150 on March 02, 2018, 06:40:04 AM: Aussies............

Extreme & Mr. Big 2018 Australian Tour
Tickets on sale 10am local time Wednesday, 7th March

Friday, 1st June
Eatons Hill Hotel, Brisbane
Tickets: Oztix

Sunday, 3rd June
Enmore Theatre, Sydney
Tickets: Ticketek

Wednesday, 6th June
Forum Theatre, Melbourne
Tickets: Ticketmaster

Thursday, 7th June
Thebarton Theatre, Adelaide
Tickets: Ticketmaster

Friday, 8th June
Metro City, Perth
Tickets: Ticketek

Guess I will go along to that - Extreme are great live. So we have Europe, LA Guns, Extreme and Mr Big here within a few weeks. Nothing for ages and then whammo.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 02, 2018, 06:52:30 AM: That's a great package. Although I didn't really like the last couple of Mr. Big releases I think they still bring it live. And Extreme is just extreme. :metal :metal :metal

But why is Billy not on tour with Sons Of Apollo?

Quote from: jjrock88 on March 02, 2018, 06:22:34 AM
It just seems like Don is going through the motions big time and really couldn't care less.

I will stick with the first Beast from the East, which kicks ass

Quoted for truth.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 02, 2018, 09:35:44 AM: I do have one burning question that will need answers this week!!

And the question is...........

Your favorites of the songs on Firepower by Judas Priest?
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Post by: Lowdz on March 02, 2018, 12:03:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 04:10:24 AM
Check out this awful live video from the new Dokken DVD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajTfrGK1lj8

Awful because of the overly blatant overdubbing of Don's vox. Surely they don't think they are kidding anyone here?

Nothing could make me click that link...
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Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 01:27:19 PM: I'm not a huge Mr. Big or Extreme fan but I haven't been to a show in a while, this might be worth a look just to see Paul Gilbert.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 02, 2018, 01:32:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
I'm not a huge Mr. Big or Extreme fan but I haven't been to a show in a while, this might be worth a look just to see Paul Gilbert.

It is! Go.

Nino is worth seeing too. Great player.

I’m enjoying the new Priest track. Simple, but very Priest.
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Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 01:33:48 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 02, 2018, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
I'm not a huge Mr. Big or Extreme fan but I haven't been to a show in a while, this might be worth a look just to see Paul Gilbert.

It is! Go.

Nino is worth seeing too. Great player.

I’m enjoying the new Priest track. Simple, but very Priest.

Yeah, Nuno is great. I have one of his model guitars for some reason haha.
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Post by: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 02:49:48 PM: New Gus G with Dennis Ward;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JMY5npXSZQ

I thought this was really good. Wasn't sure in the verse but by the end I dug it.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 02, 2018, 03:24:58 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 01:33:48 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 02, 2018, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 02, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
I'm not a huge Mr. Big or Extreme fan but I haven't been to a show in a while, this might be worth a look just to see Paul Gilbert.

It is! Go.

Nino is worth seeing too. Great player.

I’m enjoying the new Priest track. Simple, but very Priest.

Yeah, Nuno is great. I have one of his model guitars for some reason haha.

Cool.
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Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2018, 02:52:34 PM: Found a copy of the Saxon in store yesterday. After two listens I think it's fucking awesome.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 04, 2018, 02:59:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 04, 2018, 02:52:34 PM
Found a copy of the Saxon in store yesterday. After two listens I think it's fucking awesome.

:metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2018, 03:44:14 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 04, 2018, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 04, 2018, 02:52:34 PM
Found a copy of the Saxon in store yesterday. After two listens I think it's fucking awesome.

:metal :metal :metal :metal

I can't understand what Tim was talking about with his thoughts on this one.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 04, 2018, 03:47:16 PM: What do you think of the small amount of growls on the album Kade?
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Post by: TAC on March 04, 2018, 04:03:45 PM: I'm sure I would've enjoyed it a lot more if I had not heard the awesomeness of their last 6-8 albums.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 04, 2018, 04:13:44 PM: For me its hard to say that Saxon has made even a subpar album. Maybe the debut and Rock the Nations are slightly lesser in quality, but I really like/love all of their albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2018, 04:32:03 PM: I went in with low expectations and was positively surprised. Based on the first song released (and a few reviews) I was expecting an album with little crunch and a stripped back sound and I didn't find that at all for the most part.

I am not quite as ecstatic over it as Kade but enjoyed the listen and thought it was a quality album.
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Post by: TAC on March 04, 2018, 04:48:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 04, 2018, 04:32:03 PM
I went in with low expectations and was positively surprised. Based on the first song released

The title track is one of the stronger songs, if not, the strongest.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2018, 04:51:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 04, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 04, 2018, 04:32:03 PM
I went in with low expectations and was positively surprised. Based on the first song released

The title track is one of the stronger songs, if not, the strongest.

If you look at what I wrote my reference to that song was about the sound/production. You've quoted in the wrong direction :lol

Having said that ...... ;) - I thought that song was just a solid track.

The two standouts for me were The Secret of Flight (fave) and Predator.
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Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2018, 05:41:22 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 04, 2018, 03:47:16 PM
What do you think of the small amount of growls on the album Kade?

Johan from Amon Amarth, love it mate!!
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Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2018, 05:43:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 04, 2018, 04:03:45 PM
I'm sure I would've enjoyed it a lot more if I had not heard the awesomeness of their last 6-8 albums.

I've only listened to it twice, but it's as good as anything from Lionheart onwards.

Quote from: bl5150 on March 04, 2018, 04:51:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 04, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 04, 2018, 04:32:03 PM
I went in with low expectations and was positively surprised. Based on the first song released

The title track is one of the stronger songs, if not, the strongest.

If you look at what I wrote my reference to that song was about the sound/production. You've quoted in the wrong direction :lol

Having said that ...... ;) - I thought that song was just a solid track.

The two standouts for me were The Secret of Flight (fave) and Predator.

I agree after the title track I thought they might have lost some of their balls, but that's definitely not the case.

They are probably my two favs at the moment also, but Sniper is up there too, that riff!! Nosferatu is awesome too.
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Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2018, 02:48:23 PM: More reliable Borealis;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhJTjPqqtUY
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Post by: TAC on March 05, 2018, 03:39:01 PM: OK, so I gave the new Saxon another spin today. Seems the 3rd spin was MUCH better than the first two.

This will likely be a grower, which is fine. I love Saxon and don't dislike anything they've done. This just didn't grab me right off. They've set the bar pretty high here recently.

A couple of things do stand out on this.
First, there is some sick rhythm guitar going on. Even if feel a track is missing an effective pre chorus or chorus, mostly every verse is fantastic.
Secondly, Nigel Glockler :hefdaddy 65 years old! He f'n rules on this album.

And Biff just doesn't get old. He sounds great.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 05, 2018, 04:01:36 PM: I enjoyed the first listen but not been back yet. The growls were a bit ridiculous and were just a token effort but thankfully not enough of them to ruin things. In fact, they gave me a bit of a chuckle. Not sure that was the intention
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Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2018, 04:27:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 05, 2018, 03:39:01 PM
OK, so I gave the new Saxon another spin today. Seems the 3rd spin was MUCH better than the first two.

This will likely be a grower, which is fine. I love Saxon and don't dislike anything they've done. This just didn't grab me right off. They've set the bar pretty high here recently.

A couple of things do stand out on this.
First, there is some sick rhythm guitar going on. Even if feel a track is missing an effective pre chorus or chorus, mostly every verse is fantastic.
Secondly, Nigel Glockler :hefdaddy 65 years old! He f'n rules on this album.

And Biff just doesn't get old. He sounds great.

Glad you have come around Tim, we were worried about you. I'm really loving the record. Sniper might be my fav at the moment, that damn riff.

Quote from: Lowdz on March 05, 2018, 04:01:36 PM
I enjoyed the first listen but not been back yet. The growls were a bit ridiculous and were just a token effort but thankfully not enough of them to ruin things. In fact, they gave me a bit of a chuckle. Not sure that was the intention

I really doubt they did this for comedic value Paul. I applaud them for doing it.
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Post by: TAC on March 07, 2018, 03:35:15 PM: Brent, expecting a pic of you guys in front of this thing!

https://bravewords.com/news/ac-dc-giant-sculpture-of-late-vocalist-bon-scott-unveiled-in-melbourne-video
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2018, 03:51:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 07, 2018, 03:35:15 PM
Brent, expecting a pic of you guys in front of this thing!

https://bravewords.com/news/ac-dc-giant-sculpture-of-late-vocalist-bon-scott-unveiled-in-melbourne-video

I don't get into the city all that often but will try and remember to get to it in June when I expect to be in around that way for the Extreme/Mr Big concert.

Gotta love that suit :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2018, 04:12:39 PM: Nicely done.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2018, 08:30:17 PM: Firepower seems to be getting some amazing reviews around the place.

Release date is tomorrow - I'll be having a listen tonight (huge 24 hr advance :lol )

Will give some first impressions later. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2018, 09:49:59 PM: I'll pick it up Saturday or Sunday. I'm really looking forward to it.
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Post by: gazinwales on March 08, 2018, 01:17:56 AM: Firepower - listened to about half of it on the car CD player today, very solid effort.
Nothing too spectacular though, but Halford sounds amazing, the production if very clean, but way over compressed.
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2018, 04:53:22 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on March 08, 2018, 01:17:56 AM
Firepower - listened to about half of it on the car CD player today, very solid effort.
Nothing too spectacular though, but Halford sounds amazing, the production if very clean, but way over compressed.

Yep, Andy Sneap.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2018, 05:30:12 AM: Initial thoughts.............good album that would have me rating it somewhere around what I did Redeemer.

As per usual any album with 13-14 tracks gets a bit tiring unless there are some real memorable tracks consistently throughout and this album doesn't have enough variety/memorable songs to fill out that many tracks without some degree of fatigue..........for me anyway.

So there are quite a few "by the numbers" songs here that initially had me reaching for the 3/5 stars but in almost all cases there was a change up/cool midsection that got me back on board - enough to at least consider it a good track by the end.

So , while I don't think it meets the sorts of expectations many reviews are generating , it IS a strong album that shows that these guys are not done by any means.

Relatively speaking I didn't find it particularly strong in the lead guitar department - not weak either but the absence of a lot of Tipton's trademarks is noticed.

Future Priest classics? I still need more listens but if I was to name the tracks I found memorable - Evil Never Dies, Never The Heroes, Rising From Ruins and the very short and basic No Surrender.

Tentative rating around 84%
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 08, 2018, 10:58:17 AM: As long as Firepower is solid or better, I'm content. Getting it Friday!!
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Post by: gazinwales on March 08, 2018, 12:22:52 PM: Yeah 14 tracks is way too long for this kind of album that is 'samey'.
8 or 9 of the best songs would have been better and save the leftovers for bonus tracks or a seperate EP.
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Post by: Samsara on March 08, 2018, 01:54:59 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 08, 2018, 10:58:17 AM
As long as Firepower is solid or better, I'm content. Getting it Friday!!

Yup, tomorrow at this time I'll be listening to it. Looking forward to it. I have listened to NOTHING from it so far.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2018, 04:07:10 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 08, 2018, 05:30:12 AM
Initial thoughts.............good album that would have me rating it somewhere around what I did Redeemer.

As per usual any album with 13-14 tracks gets a bit tiring unless there are some real memorable tracks consistently throughout and this album doesn't have enough variety/memorable songs to fill out that many tracks without some degree of fatigue..........for me anyway.

So there are quite a few "by the numbers" songs here that initially had me reaching for the 3/5 stars but in almost all cases there was a change up/cool midsection that got me back on board - enough to at least consider it a good track by the end.

So , while I don't think it meets the sorts of expectations many reviews are generating , it IS a strong album that shows that these guys are not done by any means.

Relatively speaking I didn't find it particularly strong in the lead guitar department - not weak either but the absence of a lot of Tipton's trademarks is noticed.

Future Priest classics? I still need more listens but if I was to name the tracks I found memorable - Evil Never Dies, Never The Heroes, Rising From Ruins and the very short and basic No Surrender.

Tentative rating around 84%

Was afraid of this, but of course is to be expected.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 08, 2018, 07:02:24 PM: Just ordered Fire Power. Not sure why, but I thought it was being released next month. I'll get to auto rip it tomorrow after work.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2018, 07:27:52 PM: Just through my second listen and Rising From Ruin (and perhaps Never The Heroes) seem to be the key track/s that have a bit of extra "atmosphere" and might be on an old Defenders - Painkiller style album.

I can't see my rating changing much. Good album with a few higher level tracks but couldn't see myself above lower mid 80's.

EDIT: Traitor's Gate seems to be growing on me a bit too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2018, 03:51:15 AM: My local JB had Firepower in stock Kade so you should be right - $20
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Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2018, 04:54:47 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 09, 2018, 03:51:15 AM
My local JB had Firepower in stock Kade so you should be right - $20

Yeah dawg. :metal Tomorrow will be out there after work in the morning.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 09, 2018, 03:33:38 PM: First listen at work was positive but I couldn’t really concentrate as I was writing up some reports. Proper listen tomorrow and then decide whether to buy it.

Rob sounded very good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 09, 2018, 07:08:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 09, 2018, 03:33:38 PM
First listen at work was positive but I couldn’t really concentrate as I was writing up some reports. Proper listen tomorrow and then decide whether to buy it.

Rob sounded very good.

Paul you know you are going to buy it, so don't delay lol

It rocks and Rob does sound very good.
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Post by: TAC on March 09, 2018, 07:41:58 PM: Watching Schenker and Graham fucking Bonnet right now. Holy shit is he old!!
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Post by: TAC on March 09, 2018, 07:49:34 PM: Thank God Bonnet has the lyrics written on the stage for him! :lol
I swear he’s gonna have a heart attack any second now.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2018, 08:31:57 PM: :rollin

If he looks old next to Schenker then that's an achievement.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 10, 2018, 03:51:44 AM: He’s well into his 70s. With the way he sings, he’s doing well.
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Post by: max_security on March 10, 2018, 05:24:47 AM: Graham Bonnet has always been old I think.
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Post by: TAC on March 10, 2018, 05:56:16 AM: Quote from: max_security on March 10, 2018, 05:24:47 AM
Graham Bonnet has always been old I think.

Very true! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 11, 2018, 04:11:12 PM: 70 years old, he's doing well, I think.
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Post by: max_security on March 11, 2018, 04:29:16 PM: Yeah but he was close to 70 in Alcatrazz.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2018, 04:33:37 PM: He has always sounded like some fibre might be of benefit :lol

So what's the deal on favourite tracks from Firepower?

For me : Rising From Ruins, No Surrender,Never The Heroes, Evil Never Dies and Traitor's Gate
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Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2018, 04:45:19 PM: Played it twice now. JJ was right -Going to have to buy it.

Not familiar enough with titles yet as I’ve been driving or working when listening.
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Post by: wolfking on March 11, 2018, 04:54:30 PM: Yeah, I'll have to get through it a couple of times, still only listened to the first few songs.

The one two punch of the title track and going right into Lightning Strike is really cool.
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2018, 04:55:41 PM: I'm not quite through the first half of it yet.

Um...it's OK..
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2018, 05:03:55 PM: In case you guys haven't checked out the Michael Schenker thread, here's a few shots I took at Berklee Friday night.

(https://i.imgur.com/zJNDCVb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zhUPcx0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cpRuQOq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bcPbxwI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iJ6wVvm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8C7vOY1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jN546CY.jpg)

And then there's this one..

...I love this pic. It totally sums up the night.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZvLZIpv.jpg)

Barden: "um..yeah.."
McCauley: "This is great. I'm a rock star again!"
Bonnet: "What are the words, again?"
White: "This is MY gig!!! I'm so freaking pissed."
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Post by: wolfking on March 11, 2018, 05:19:47 PM: Really nice pics Tim. Looks like a good show.

Damn, Doogie got fat.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 11, 2018, 05:23:23 PM: Cool pics! Did the set list include songs from all his different bands and eras?

As for Firepower, I'm definitely liking it a little more than ROS and my early favorites are Never the Heroes, Spectre and especially No Surrender :metal
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2018, 05:47:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 11, 2018, 05:23:23 PM
Cool pics! Did the set list include songs from all his different bands and eras?

Yes. So each singer sang 5 songs each from their era with Schenker instrumentals between each guy.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/michael-schenker/2018/berklee-performance-center-boston-ma-13ef853d.html
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Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2018, 05:53:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 11, 2018, 05:23:23 PM

As for Firepower, I'm definitely liking it a little more than ROS and my early favorites are Never the Heroes, Spectre and especially No Surrender :metal

No Surrender is pretty short, sweet and basic but I really like it - reminds me of stuff I like from the Turbo album.

How many people turned up to see Schenker Tim?
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2018, 05:54:44 PM: Well, the Berklee Performance Center is apparently 1200 seats. I'd be shocked if there were 500 people there.

I saw Dream Theater there in 1994. It was a lot smaller than I remember it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 11, 2018, 06:14:10 PM: Nice to see Desert Song played!! :metal
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2018, 06:17:22 PM: Nice to see Graham Bonnet alive! ;D :metal
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Post by: max_security on March 11, 2018, 06:31:43 PM: That is cool that he's still doing it. Desert Song is a good one with Graham.
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Post by: TAC on March 11, 2018, 06:34:31 PM: I was thrilled to see Bonnet. He looked really old though. He forgot his lyrics, and was definitely reading them from the floor, but vocally he was GOING FOR IT! :metal

I loved seeing him. His singing on the new Schenker album is really good. I think the fact that his voice isn't nearly as strong is, to my ears, relief actually. There's a warmth to it that wasn't there back in the day.
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 12, 2018, 07:43:37 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 11, 2018, 06:34:31 PM
I was thrilled to see Bonnet. He looked really old though. He forgot his lyrics, and was definitely reading them from the floor, but vocally he was GOING FOR IT! :metal

I loved seeing him. His singing on the new Schenker album is really good. I think the fact that his voice isn't nearly as strong is, to my ears, relief actually. There's a warmth to it that wasn't there back in the day.

Yeah Bonnet always goes for it. Which is kinda his problem. Sometimes he can pull off still trying to sing with full power and I wonder why people crap on the guy.......then I'll see a clip from a week later and be reminded why lol.

I'd still love to see him live but he's certainly not the most consistent.
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2018, 03:28:47 PM: I put some thoughts I had on Firepower in the Priest thread but I'll post them here too;

My thoughts after a full listen of Firepower is really positive. It's funny how Priest can make an album full of rehashed generic metal riffs sound so strong and fresh and exciting. In terms or the riffs and rhythm this is such basic stuff it's unbelievable. Nothing on here is complex or breaking any new ground at all. The E-C-D chord progressions are strong here. But, that makes no difference because Priest make it work within the songwriting. How the simplicity of a riff like Rising from Ruins be so cool is commendable.

There's not too much going on in the leads here either. As Brent said it does miss some of the trademark Tipton sound which I thought was the case on ROS also, but Glenn actually does a lot of work here and plays leads on most songs, which I'm surprised and happy about. I'll break it down when I get a chance for some fun. I never understood what they saw in Richie. I still think it was the KK like image but as a lead player, he's really generic. BUT, given the generic nature of the songs and the nice production, I think what he offers is pretty good. He has some nice passages and note selections and his leads flow really well. There is no one else playing here but Glenn and Richie also btw.

Rob sounds awesome, really awesome, and Sneap has done a great job on the production. I've always liked his modern style of production, so I'm happy with it. As for the songs, hard to pinpoint favourites as it needs more listens but Never the Heroes surprisingly is one of my favs, has that 80's feel with Glenn's presence on this one strong. Rising From Ruins is probably my fav, that's a cracker. No Surrender to me is like something the band has never really done, it took me by surprise but can see that being a fav too. Evil, Spectre and Traitors are strong too as is the one two punch that starts the album.

I don't think it's got that much filler, the only one's I'd probably cut are Children of the Sun, that sounds like a ROS leftover, and Flamethrower, that's a piece of shit. Don't know what the fuck they were thinking with that one and brings the mood down after Rising From Ruins.

All in all, very, very impressive and it's inspiring to hear Tipton play here despite what he's going through, proud to be a Priest fan.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 12, 2018, 04:50:11 PM: Summed up pretty well there Kade.

First Priest album I’ve l8ked in a long time, probably since Angel Of Retribution, and this one is probably better than that.

I think Rob’s performance is probably why I like it. He isn’t trying to go too high.

And all things considered, Glenn’s performance is great.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 12, 2018, 05:23:43 PM: Flamethrower is definitely cheesy, but that chorus can easily get stuck in your head.

I'm still playing No Surrender over and over. Like Kade said, it's a song that is different from anything they have really done and stands out on Firepower in a good way. Even upon first listen, when that song came on, it was the only song that made me pay close attention and the first one I wanted to revisit after the first listen was done. So it's my favorite on the album for sure.

If Sneap makes comfort Metal, I'm on board because that's what I like!
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2018, 05:25:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 12, 2018, 04:50:11 PM
Summed up pretty well there Kade.

First Priest album I’ve l8ked in a long time, probably since Angel Of Retribution, and this one is probably better than that.

I think Rob’s performance is probably why I like it. He isn’t trying to go too high.

And all things considered, Glenn’s performance is great.

It is. Don't quote me, but pretty sure he solos a lot more here than ROS. I'm impressed with what he delivered here and it's so very inspiring.
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2018, 05:27:18 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 12, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
Flamethrower is definitely cheesy, but that chorus can easily get stuck in your head.

I'm still playing No Surrender over and over. Like Kade said, it's a song that is different from anything they have really done and stands out on Firepower in a good way. Even upon first listen, when that song came on, it was the only song that made me pay close attention and the first one I wanted to revisit after the first listen was done. So it's my favorite on the album for sure.

If Sneap makes comfort Metal, I'm on board because that's what I like!

Sneap's production is pretty much the same on everything he does, but he's so reliable in that department. I admit the Flamethrower chorus can get stuck in your head but I can't get past the pure stupidity of it haha.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 14, 2018, 09:31:15 PM: Was it you Tim that was chatting with me a while back about this old obscure thing from 1982?

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oDHUWIBUL74/WnSonnk2ihI/AAAAAAAAcGE/vquLemMHiZwH3uwRvf2godUM5bnZ7XhoACLcBGAs/s1600/Universe1-cover-web.jpg)

Anyway - it's getting a re-release on CD in April if that's of interest.
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2018, 05:33:01 AM: Yes it was. Cool. I'll be on the lookout for it!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2018, 06:54:27 PM: For my fellow magazine whores from the 70's and 80's ...........might bring back some memories.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/kiss-magazine-ads/

Links down the bottom to Van Halen and Metallica
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Post by: TAC on March 15, 2018, 07:10:08 PM: That's cool, Brent!
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2018, 06:45:45 PM: Listening to Beast From the East in the car today for the first time in a LONG time. Lynch tearing shit up.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 17, 2018, 04:44:05 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 15, 2018, 06:54:27 PM
For my fellow magazine whores from the 70's and 80's ...........might bring back some memories.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/kiss-magazine-ads/

Links down the bottom to Van Halen and Metallica

What got me into KISS originally was the adverts in the Marvel comics. It was the solo album covers that intrigued me and I sought out the music.
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Post by: TAC on March 17, 2018, 05:46:14 PM: So.........

Firepower or Thunderbolt?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 18, 2018, 04:18:47 AM: Firepower for me.
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Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2018, 04:40:31 AM: I'd say Firepower, but that is only becuase of the circumstances surrounding them. Saxon keeps putting out powerhouse album after powerhouse album and this new one is no exception.

Priest though, disappointing album beforehand, most likely their last album and Glenn's situation makes it more triumphant.

Saxon lose out here in an unfair situation.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 18, 2018, 07:48:47 AM: I think Wolf sums it up well.

Saxon is just consistently good with each album.

Priest lost me with Nostradamus but came back strongly with RoS, but it still wasn't quite there yet for me. Firepower takes RoS a few levels up and as a result, in my opinion, is a phenomenal album. I don't want to say masterpiece quite yet, but I know this will be my favorite album of 2018 easily and a top tier Priest album overall. And this isn't just new album talk that people tend to do. This is a fantastic heavy metal album.

Thunderbolt is awesome, but Firepower is even better.
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2018, 05:43:21 PM: Very quiet in here boys lately.

Been spinning through Dokkens old ones the last couple of days. I know why they were a band that didn't hook me as much as others, great stuff but quite a bit of filler throughout the albums. Beast From the East is where it's at.
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Post by: KevShmev on March 20, 2018, 05:46:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 20, 2018, 05:43:21 PM
Very quiet in here boys lately.

Been spinning through Dokkens old ones the last couple of days. I know why they were a band that didn't hook me as much as others, great stuff but quite a bit of filler throughout the albums. Beast From the East is where it's at.

I was a big fan of Dokken in '87-'88. Burning Like a Flame was one of my favorite songs at the time, although Heaven Sent has aged much better for me. Something about that song is just really cool.
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Post by: TAC on March 20, 2018, 06:40:16 PM: What's KevShmev doing in here? Who left the back door open??
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Post by: KevShmev on March 20, 2018, 06:46:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2018, 06:40:16 PM
What's KevShmev doing in here? Who left the back door open??

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Atr8iFcc0qQ/hqdefault.jpg)
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 20, 2018, 06:47:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2018, 06:40:16 PM
What's KevShmev doing in here? Who left the back door open??

You're too old for that much fun.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 20, 2018, 06:50:28 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 20, 2018, 05:43:21 PM
Very quiet in here boys lately.

Been spinning through Dokkens old ones the last couple of days. I know why they were a band that didn't hook me as much as others, great stuff but quite a bit of filler throughout the albums. Beast From the East is where it's at.

Would be one of my "most played" albums ever (and well up there in my DTF Top 50) , certainly one of only a few live albums that I bothered with and yet I didn't go too overboard on many of the Dokken studio albums. ULAK and BFTA were the go to albums there. Don Dokken solo also got a fair go.

The stuff from Tooth and Nail etc....sounded so much better on "Beast".
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Post by: TAC on March 20, 2018, 06:52:00 PM: Quote from: KevShmev on March 20, 2018, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2018, 06:40:16 PM
What's KevShmev doing in here? Who left the back door open??

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Atr8iFcc0qQ/hqdefault.jpg)

I'm having deja vu!
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Post by: KevShmev on March 20, 2018, 06:58:23 PM: :lol :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 20, 2018, 09:20:53 PM: Beast is one of the best live albums ever. I think that album was the climax of the band and they were never able to reach that level again. The first four Dokken studio albums are pretty much the definition of the hair band era and contain lots of killer tunes. Don's solo album really should be considered the fifth Dokken album as it's basically the same sound.

Everything after that point is extreme hit or miss and really not worth having IMO. Shadowlife is one of the worst things I've ever heard. It's beyond bad, and I can't imagine Brent even giving it a rating it the positives. I remember Erase the Slate having some good tunes, but not enough to get me interested in the band. Every other release has some decent tunes on it, but just so far removed from the quality of their 80's albums.

Dokken obviously had some success, but I guess they haven't stood the test of time at all. I don't think I've ever heard anyone in person talk about them and I know for sure I've never heard them on regular radio. I guess they just had their moment and that was it.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 20, 2018, 09:39:49 PM: Like a few of their contemporaries the only place Dokken was huge was Japan .
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2018, 05:38:07 AM: I never gave those 'middle' albums from Dokken with George much attention, but I should check them out. Up From the Ashes I'd take over most of these early albums though I think, much more consistent.

I'm also listening to Live From the Sun right now and I use to love that DVD and love Reb Beach, but listening now years later, he's an amazing guitarist, but just doesn't do these songs justice surprisingly.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 21, 2018, 03:11:08 PM: After BFTA being one of my favourite albums ever, I was very disappointed in Up From The Ashes. It’s ok, some good songs, but I missed Lynch.
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Post by: TAC on March 21, 2018, 04:10:07 PM: New Dokken

https://bravewords.com/news/dokken-premiers-official-music-video-for-new-song-it-s-just-another-day
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2018, 04:24:42 PM: That was actually pretty good.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 21, 2018, 04:26:27 PM: Not bad - first half of the riff is a dead ringer for one of the Gillen tracks off Sacred Groove . Better than expected I suppose.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 21, 2018, 04:36:50 PM: Better than I expected too. But I'm still not going to get it.
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2018, 04:51:58 PM: This is just a bonus track on that DVD hey? They're not doing an album are they?
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 21, 2018, 04:54:27 PM: Yeah its just a bonus song on the live cd. I think there is an acoustic bonus song too. Plus the live dvd.
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2018, 04:56:03 PM: Yeah fuck that. I'm not buying it either.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 21, 2018, 05:05:52 PM: :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 21, 2018, 08:02:34 PM: I dig it.
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2018, 07:22:23 PM: This album is fucking awesome! Just made a purchase!

Has a wicked old school Fields Of The Nephilim vibe. :metal

(https://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/downbelowcover-500x500.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2018, 12:54:23 AM: Very recent interview with Judas Priest - Richie, Rob and Glenn

https://youtu.be/UcT4BZeTICo
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Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2018, 04:34:01 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 24, 2018, 07:22:23 PM
This album is fucking awesome! Just made a purchase!

Has a wicked old school Fields Of The Nephilim vibe. :metal

(https://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/downbelowcover-500x500.jpg)

Tim, WTF?!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Lb1eyMWMaU5eE/giphy.gif)
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Post by: LudwigVan on March 25, 2018, 08:54:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 25, 2018, 04:34:01 AM
Quote from: TAC on March 24, 2018, 07:22:23 PM
This album is fucking awesome! Just made a purchase!

Has a wicked old school Fields Of The Nephilim vibe. :metal

(https://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/downbelowcover-500x500.jpg)

Tim, WTF?!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Lb1eyMWMaU5eE/giphy.gif)

:lol

I'm listening to this now, I like it! You're spot on about the Nephilim vibe. Very goth-y post-punk sound with bits of doom metal thrown in. But I'm SHOCKED that you can get past cookie monster!? Im gonna have dig into this band a little more.
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2018, 09:19:05 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 25, 2018, 04:34:01 AM
Tim, WTF?!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Lb1eyMWMaU5eE/giphy.gif)

:lol

Man, I LOVE Fred Sanford. :lol

Quote from: LudwigVan on March 25, 2018, 08:54:58 AM
I'm listening to this now, I like it! You're spot on about the Nephilim vibe. Very goth-y post-punk sound with bits of doom metal thrown in. But I'm SHOCKED that you can get past cookie monster!? Im gonna have dig into this band a little more.

I knew that YOU would get the Nephilim reference. I remember first getting into FOTN back in the day. I just found them so stylish and unique, and even though the vocals were not typical for me, I just found them part of the mystique.

I have been really working to find some middle ground on the whole Growls thing. I am coming to grips that some of the best music being made today unfortunately are from Growl bands. I am finding myself very particular when it comes to what I can tolerate. I have quite a few Growl albums saved on Spotify that I keep coming back to in small doses.

As far as the Tribulation goes, I think musically, it's really cool. It creates a great mood. And like I said, it's a slightly heavier version of Fields Of The Nephilim. It has a very similar vibe, which I totally dig.
Now the elephant in the room is the vocals, obviously, but for me, they are closer to a heavier Lemmy than a guttural growl.

This is the second Growl album I've bought in the last couple of years, the first being Enshine's Singularity. Gord, you should check that out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 25, 2018, 09:48:08 AM: What's going on here? Whats this growly talk again. Now we are losing Tim to the growls too???

Brent, post some of your Van Halen merchandise quick!

Or let's talk about the new Judas Priest again! It's awesome right?
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2018, 09:52:04 AM: (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xvn0a0ZKzPM/hqdefault.jpg)
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Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2018, 10:05:15 AM: Have to say that was fucking awful Tim 😀

The music had promise and I tolerated the vocals for the first track but a whole album of that - no dynamics.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2018, 10:18:45 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 25, 2018, 09:48:08 AM
What's going on here? Whats this growly talk again. Now we are losing Tim to the growls too???

The cookie monster is slowly taking over the world. :biggrin: :metal
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2018, 10:20:59 AM: (https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2017/3-15/q1wYSBXQZZ-8.png)
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Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2018, 07:36:08 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2018, 10:18:45 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 25, 2018, 09:48:08 AM
What's going on here? Whats this growly talk again. Now we are losing Tim to the growls too???

The cookie monster is slowly taking over the world. :biggrin: :metal

YES!!! :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2018, 08:57:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 25, 2018, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2018, 10:18:45 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 25, 2018, 09:48:08 AM
What's going on here? Whats this growly talk again. Now we are losing Tim to the growls too???

The cookie monster is slowly taking over the world. :biggrin: :metal

YES!!! :metal

:umno:
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Post by: TAC on March 29, 2018, 07:15:26 PM: 2nd page???

New Riot V track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSznM3ITp0s

That is fucking tasty.
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2018, 10:50:06 PM: We are all a bit quiet lately hey?
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Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2018, 05:54:32 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 29, 2018, 07:15:26 PM
2nd page???

New Riot V track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSznM3ITp0s

That is fucking tasty.

Good vocals. This new Riot seems one I should check out. I remember Brent playing one of their songs and it was awesome.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 30, 2018, 07:00:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 29, 2018, 10:50:06 PM
We are all a bit quiet lately hey?

The Judas Priest was just that good :biggrin:

But yeah. Not heard much new stuff that’s interested me. Best albums of 1985 have been on in the car.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 01, 2018, 12:06:21 PM: I’m enjoying this album quite a bit. From Canada apparently.
Cue Brent telling me it was in a podcast and I wasn’t paying attention :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on April 01, 2018, 04:04:59 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 01, 2018, 12:06:21 PM
I’m enjoying this album quite a bit. From Canada apparently.
Cue Brent telling me it was in a podcast and I wasn’t paying attention :lol

I will when you let me know what it is ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on April 01, 2018, 08:30:59 PM: We unexpectedly ended up in the city on the weekend and so we took the "TAC challenge" and made our way to AC/DC Lane.

Ben was pleasantly surprised to find some Judas Priest Defenders artwork on the laneway - below are most of the more relevant highlights. The only one I have on another camera is a Frank Zappa portrait.

Also a link to a quick video report than Ben did for Uncle Tim - he scared the crap out of most of the passers by :lol

(https://s9.postimg.org/y679z7krz/bon_ben.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/8anjg0ydr/bon1.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/pnxtuwgu7/born_again.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/n6m2nnk33/priest.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/si0z8dtb3/street_sign.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/pd8ebwzwf/malcolm1.jpg)

https://youtu.be/pVbU5RE7IP8
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2018, 04:39:42 AM: :2metal:
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2018, 04:42:48 AM: Fuck yeah, Defenders and Born Again, how fucking awesome is that!
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 02, 2018, 05:26:04 AM: Anyone familiar with the band Hell? Never heard them myself but I stumbled upon them on YT just now. Yes it's a bit rough around the edges but I really dig the vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbMUNT-JpzI
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Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2018, 05:46:47 AM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 02, 2018, 05:26:04 AM
Anyone familiar with the band Hell? Never heard them myself but I stumbled upon them on YT just now. Yes it's a bit rough around the edges but I really dig the vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbMUNT-JpzI

I find them very hit and miss but when they get it right - yeah..........enjoy some of their stuff and have a few albums.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2018, 05:56:51 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 01, 2018, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 01, 2018, 12:06:21 PM
I’m enjoying this album quite a bit. From Canada apparently.
Cue Brent telling me it was in a podcast and I wasn’t paying attention :lol

I will when you let me know what it is ;D

Bloody Alzheimer’s :lol

https://open.spotify.com/track/35RCxHflFmfwKvVntZi0MR?si=4Nu6OBe8TG6xCqFQgiuvqQ

Snake Eyes Seven
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Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2018, 06:38:20 AM: Seeing as it's a 2018 release and there hasn't been a show in 2018 you're safe mate :lol I'm way behind on 2018 releases at this point.
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Post by: NoseofNicko on April 02, 2018, 02:25:36 PM: What do you guys think of this song:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5e5UENQ6g (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5e5UENQ6g)

One of my favorite hard rock/heavy metal bands.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2018, 02:32:23 PM: Quote from: NoseofNicko on April 02, 2018, 02:25:36 PM
What do you guys think of this song:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5e5UENQ6g (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5e5UENQ6g)

One of my favorite hard rock/heavy metal bands.

I do like some Jap metal 🤘
I bought the live album back in the 8ps and loved it. I 5hink I have the III album on cd. Should probably delve a bit deeper.
Have you heard Anthem?
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2018, 04:11:29 PM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 02, 2018, 05:26:04 AM
Anyone familiar with the band Hell? Never heard them myself but I stumbled upon them on YT just now. Yes it's a bit rough around the edges but I really dig the vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbMUNT-JpzI

I have both of their albums and they are pretty enjoyable. The first one though I think I like better. Has Andy Sneap too.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2018, 05:25:54 PM: I added an extra photo above that I had forgotten from AC/DC Lane if anyone's interested (tribute to Malcolm Young)
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Post by: TAC on April 02, 2018, 06:22:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 01, 2018, 08:30:59 PM
We unexpectedly ended up in the city on the weekend and so we took the "TAC challenge" and made our way to AC/DC Lane.

Ben was pleasantly surprised to find some Judas Priest Defenders artwork on the laneway - below are most of the more relevant highlights. The only one I have on another camera is a Frank Zappa portrait.

Also a link to a quick video report than Ben did for Uncle Tim - he scared the crap out of most of the passers by :lol

(https://s9.postimg.org/y679z7krz/bon_ben.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/8anjg0ydr/bon1.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/pnxtuwgu7/born_again.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/n6m2nnk33/priest.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/si0z8dtb3/street_sign.jpg)

(https://s9.postimg.org/pd8ebwzwf/malcolm1.jpg)

https://youtu.be/pVbU5RE7IP8

Love the video, guys!!!! Looks like the best day ever!

When the TACs finally make their way to Australia (God knows when that will be), we are going to AC/DC Lane!

We'll meet you guys on the corner of AC/DC and Duckboard! :lol
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Post by: NoseofNicko on April 02, 2018, 06:31:27 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 02, 2018, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: NoseofNicko on April 02, 2018, 02:25:36 PM
What do you guys think of this song:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5e5UENQ6g (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5e5UENQ6g)

One of my favorite hard rock/heavy metal bands.

I do like some Jap metal 🤘
I bought the live album back in the 8ps and loved it. I 5hink I have the III album on cd. Should probably delve a bit deeper.
Have you heard Anthem?

I like a lot of Japanese metal/rock, but for some reason I’ve never really listened to Anthem seriously... I know a couple of songs and like them though. What’s the best album to start with?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 03, 2018, 03:11:25 AM: Makes me feel damn ancient but Savatage's Edge of Thorns just turned 25 years old.
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Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2018, 05:32:05 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 03, 2018, 03:11:25 AM
Makes me feel damn ancient but Savatage's Edge of Thorns just turned 25 years old.

:metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on April 03, 2018, 04:03:45 PM: Quote from: NoseofNicko on April 02, 2018, 06:31:27 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 02, 2018, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: NoseofNicko on April 02, 2018, 02:25:36 PM
What do you guys think of this song:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5e5UENQ6g (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5e5UENQ6g)

One of my favorite hard rock/heavy metal bands.

I do like some Jap metal 🤘
I bought the live album back in the 8ps and loved it. I 5hink I have the III album on cd. Should probably delve a bit deeper.
Have you heard Anthem?

I like a lot of Japanese metal/rock, but for some reason I’ve never really listened to Anthem seriously... I know a couple of songs and like them though. What’s the best album to start with?

I only have Domestic Booty and the latest one. Both very good. I’ve heard Domestic Booty described as Painkiller 2 and whilst I don’t really see that it’s a great album.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 04, 2018, 12:21:56 PM: I’m afraid I don’t have any good news on the new releases front. The new TNT song. Shit doesn’t even come close to describing this.

https://youtu.be/yBwxbDJGrN4
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Post by: Samsara on April 04, 2018, 01:20:41 PM: So...for any fellow Fifth Angel fans out there:

https://www.metalblade.com/europe/news/metal-blade-to-re-issue-fifth-angel-albums/

>>>I pre-ordered both limited editions for each record. Pretty pumped. They look amazing. I have both records on standard vinyl already (the jackets are autographed and everything is framed and displayed, so no easy access to it), but I couldn't pass up these limited color vinyl editions.

Not going to re-buy the standard vinyl or the CDs, but those of you who like FA but never bought the albums, here's a nice chance to pick up the reissues.

(https://www.metalblade.com/europe/newspics/fifth-angel-bundle.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 04, 2018, 03:00:01 PM: Fifth Angel rocks!!

It would be nice to have some bonus tracks on these re-issues, or even better, finally a new album! But I know that is easier said than done.

Regardless, nice to see these albums getting re-issued and I may just pick up the new cd versions.
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Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2018, 04:30:50 PM: Yeah, there's no point in getting those Fifth Angel cd's without any extras. Cool shit though.
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Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2018, 04:33:57 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 04, 2018, 12:21:56 PM
I’m afraid I don’t have any good news on the new releases front. The new TNT song. Shit doesn’t even come close to describing this.

https://youtu.be/yBwxbDJGrN4

I was ready to get a hard rock when clicking this, instead I just got a soft cock. This could be one of the crappiest thing I ever heard. No wonder Harnell said fuck these guys, again.

Disappointing when they keep saying are you ready for some hard rock when it never fucking comes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 04, 2018, 04:58:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2018, 04:33:57 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 04, 2018, 12:21:56 PM
I’m afraid I don’t have any good news on the new releases front. The new TNT song. Shit doesn’t even come close to describing this.

https://youtu.be/yBwxbDJGrN4

I was ready to get a hard rock when clicking this, instead I just got a soft cock. This could be one of the crappiest thing I ever heard. No wonder Harnell said fuck these guys, again.

Disappointing when they keep saying are you ready for some hard rock when it never fucking comes.

I tapped out 35 seconds in. The first 34 seconds were disbelief
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Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2018, 06:16:31 PM: That was the definition of shit. Nothing redeeming in that track whatsoever.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 04, 2018, 06:28:17 PM: For all these new rock songs on youtube, I tend to look at the thumbs up and thumbs down ratings. The majority of songs that I find crap or "solid", most still have an overwhelming thumbs up. I usually just figure its fanboys that will like anything released by a band.

However, this one is pretty even with the thumbs down, so that goes to show you the suckage of this one.

As far as TNT goes, I am only familiar with the song 10,000 lovers and Knights of the New Thunder album. But this is terrible.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2018, 06:45:04 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 04, 2018, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2018, 04:33:57 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 04, 2018, 12:21:56 PM
I’m afraid I don’t have any good news on the new releases front. The new TNT song. Shit doesn’t even come close to describing this.

https://youtu.be/yBwxbDJGrN4

I was ready to get a hard rock when clicking this, instead I just got a soft cock. This could be one of the crappiest thing I ever heard. No wonder Harnell said fuck these guys, again.

Disappointing when they keep saying are you ready for some hard rock when it never fucking comes.

I tapped out 35 seconds in. The first 34 seconds were disbelief

Good effort :lol

I agree with everything Kade said - I only heard enough to know it's a joke.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 05, 2018, 02:39:11 AM: Rumours around that the Conception boys have been spotted together. I realise that probably means little to many but I'd be on board "bigly."
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2018, 05:01:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 05, 2018, 02:39:11 AM
Rumours around that the Conception boys have been spotted together. I realise that probably means little to many but I'd be on board "bigly."

Cool! And with Khan recording that song that got put out on YT earlier this week, I will be hopeful it's more than just them hanging out.
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Post by: Samsara on April 05, 2018, 08:16:49 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2018, 04:30:50 PM
Yeah, there's no point in getting those Fifth Angel cd's without any extras. Cool shit though.

Yup. I am getting those limited vinyls, but that's it. There's no other material, honestly. I have the "Under Pressure" demo that was left off the first record. Somebody discovered it years ago, and when I asked both Ed and James, they said the same thing (paraphrasing here): "It was a song we did that was left off the deal with both Shrapnel and Epic/Sony. Someone probably found a cassette in a trash bin, saved it, and then transferred it." They did not record the song in-studio, according to them. Just a demo at home.

And as for Time Will Tell, there is nothing leftover from that either. They were lucky to get that album recorded, as they could never get a drummer. Ken Mary did them a solid and did the drums for it, but he had already left the band by then. And then Ed left, and the band fell apart.

Should be some new Fifth Angel news soon though!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2018, 03:47:26 PM: Quote from: Samsara on April 05, 2018, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2018, 04:30:50 PM
Yeah, there's no point in getting those Fifth Angel cd's without any extras. Cool shit though.

Yup. I am getting those limited vinyls, but that's it. There's no other material, honestly. I have the "Under Pressure" demo that was left off the first record. Somebody discovered it years ago, and when I asked both Ed and James, they said the same thing (paraphrasing here): "It was a song we did that was left off the deal with both Shrapnel and Epic/Sony. Someone probably found a cassette in a trash bin, saved it, and then transferred it." They did not record the song in-studio, according to them. Just a demo at home.

And as for Time Will Tell, there is nothing leftover from that either. They were lucky to get that album recorded, as they could never get a drummer. Ken Mary did them a solid and did the drums for it, but he had already left the band by then. And then Ed left, and the band fell apart.

Should be some new Fifth Angel news soon though!

Makes sense. I always found the UFO cover out of place and unnecessary.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2018, 05:01:18 PM: NO UFO cover is out of place and unnecessary.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2018, 05:39:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2018, 05:01:18 PM
NO UFO cover is out of place and unnecessary.

Didn't Winger cover a UFO song once?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2018, 05:51:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2018, 05:01:18 PM
NO UFO cover is out of place and unnecessary.

(https://m.memegen.com/l0pq7h.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2018, 05:13:40 PM: Chad, have you checked out the new Borealis yet?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 06, 2018, 05:14:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2018, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2018, 05:01:18 PM
NO UFO cover is out of place and unnecessary.

(https://m.memegen.com/l0pq7h.jpg)

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 05:24:18 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 06, 2018, 05:13:40 PM
Chad, have you checked out the new Borealis yet?

But of course. Even outright purchased it. Only listened 2-3 times, so haven't really picked anything distinctive out of it, but it's as good as any other release of theirs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2018, 06:06:42 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 05:24:18 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 06, 2018, 05:13:40 PM
Chad, have you checked out the new Borealis yet?

But of course. Even outright purchased it. Only listened 2-3 times, so haven't really picked anything distinctive out of it, but it's as good as any other release of theirs.

Nice and solid then, very good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 09:22:10 PM: It's more "solid" than the "solid" we use in the Frontiers thread, that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 07, 2018, 08:01:34 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 09:22:10 PM
It's more "solid" than the "solid" we use in the Frontiers thread, that's for sure.

Indeed it is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 12, 2018, 05:55:19 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/heavy-pettin-announce-uk-tour-with-angel-s-punky-meadows-and-frank-dimino

Lettin' Loose is one of my all time favorite albums!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2018, 08:09:44 PM: Don't know anything about any of 'em. The tour poster isn't exactly making me want to rush out and buy their albums either. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2018, 08:34:02 PM: I think if Punky Meadows smiles his toes are gonna curl up ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 12, 2018, 09:47:38 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 12, 2018, 05:55:19 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/heavy-pettin-announce-uk-tour-with-angel-s-punky-meadows-and-frank-dimino

Lettin' Loose is one of my all time favorite albums!

What does everyone think of Angel? They had a few songs that I liked, "The Tower" is good. But I found most of their songs to be way too glammy for my rock tastes. I remember when I read about them, they were presented as a heavy progressive band from the 70's and got lots of good reviews. But when I played their music, I really wasn't getting that vibe at all besides a few spots here and there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 13, 2018, 07:31:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Don't know anything about any of 'em.

Heavy Pettin's Lettin' Loose is a 1983 release. It is a cross between Def Leppard's High n Dry and Pyromania. I have loved it since the day it came out.
Their second album, Rock Ain't Dead blows.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on April 13, 2018, 07:52:47 AM: The only thing I know of Angel is Punky's Whips (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSUHGcVda0g).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 13, 2018, 12:46:17 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/riot-v-debut-messiah-lyric-video

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

So pumped for this album!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 04:54:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Don't know anything about any of 'em. The tour poster isn't exactly making me want to rush out and buy their albums either. :lol

They were from Scotland and they were shit. Not much else to know.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 13, 2018, 04:55:49 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 04:54:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Don't know anything about any of 'em. The tour poster isn't exactly making me want to rush out and buy their albums either. :lol

They were from Scotland and they were shit. Not much else to know.

Their first album was awesome. THEN they were shit! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 04:56:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 12, 2018, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 12, 2018, 05:55:19 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/heavy-pettin-announce-uk-tour-with-angel-s-punky-meadows-and-frank-dimino

Lettin' Loose is one of my all time favorite albums!

What does everyone think of Angel? They had a few songs that I liked, "The Tower" is good. But I found most of their songs to be way too glammy for my rock tastes. I remember when I read about them, they were presented as a heavy progressive band from the 70's and got lots of good reviews. But when I played their music, I really wasn't getting that vibe at all besides a few spots here and there.

I have most of their albums on vinyl but I wouldn’t call myself a fan really. Some good songs, very KISS like. Punky Meadows’ album a couple of years ago was very good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 04:59:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 13, 2018, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 04:54:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Don't know anything about any of 'em. The tour poster isn't exactly making me want to rush out and buy their albums either. :lol

They were from Scotland and they were shit. Not much else to know.

Their first album was awesome. THEN they were shit! :lol

I’ll have to take your word fo4 that . They were so shit it puts me off even trying 5he first one. The singer wanted to be Rod Stewart. 80s Rod Stewart not cool 70s Rod Stewart.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 13, 2018, 06:47:38 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 05:00:41 PM
Jon Bon Jovi- Young Guns 2 soundtrack

Aldo Nova- Blood on the Bricks

RATT - Dancing Undercover

Then you should have no problem with the first HP album.. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 14, 2018, 03:09:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 13, 2018, 06:47:38 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 05:00:41 PM
Jon Bon Jovi- Young Guns 2 soundtrack

Aldo Nova- Blood on the Bricks

RATT - Dancing Undercover

Then you should have no problem with the first HP album.. ;D

All three of those are excellent albums 😍
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2018, 03:31:59 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 04:54:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Don't know anything about any of 'em. The tour poster isn't exactly making me want to rush out and buy their albums either. :lol

They were from Scotland and they were shit. Not much else to know.

Good enough for me mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 14, 2018, 01:02:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 14, 2018, 03:31:59 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 04:54:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Don't know anything about any of 'em. The tour poster isn't exactly making me want to rush out and buy their albums either. :lol

They were from Scotland and they were shit. Not much else to know.

Good enough for me mate.

So I gave the first album a go as I was cleaning the bathroom today (oh the joys of being a grown up 😀) and it was actually pretty good. Maybe I’ll listen to this TAC fellow a bit more. He’s not always wrong...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2018, 01:06:49 PM: Ha!..No it isn't bad. It sits right between High n Dry and Pyromania. I enjoyed the hell out of Lettin' Loose when I was a kid, and I still love it. But man, they sucked on the second album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2018, 07:43:50 PM: Speaking of early 80's heavy metal...

New Seven Sisters is out!!!!

(https://www.nuclearblast.de/static/articles/269/269892.jpg/1000x1000.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2018, 03:43:56 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 14, 2018, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 14, 2018, 03:31:59 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 13, 2018, 04:54:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Don't know anything about any of 'em. The tour poster isn't exactly making me want to rush out and buy their albums either. :lol

They were from Scotland and they were shit. Not much else to know.

Good enough for me mate.

So I gave the first album a go as I was cleaning the bathroom today (oh the joys of being a grown up 😀) and it was actually pretty good. Maybe I’ll listen to this TAC fellow a bit more. He’s not always wrong...

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/57482322/woah-calm-down-bro.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on April 15, 2018, 06:37:13 AM: (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N0-aQPbzCZE/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2018, 05:03:45 AM: Having a listen to the new (well, most recent) Mike Lepond, not bad. I like what I'm hearing more than the first one. Not really what I expected. Reminds me heavy of later Metal Church, even Overkill without the thrash element turned down a bit. I think mainly cause the singer sounds a lot like Bobby.

Meat and potatoes, no bullshit style metal, above solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 16, 2018, 06:06:25 AM: Yeah, it's a cool album. Been enjoying it very much!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2018, 05:32:01 AM: Had a couple of listens to the new Borealis too. Even though there's nothing new and it's petty much a continuation of the last one, it's really quite impressive.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2018, 05:54:09 AM: Agreed. 'new' or not, great music is still great music.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 17, 2018, 01:49:23 PM: Herbie Langhans no longer in Sinbreed?

https://bravewords.com/news/germany-s-sinbreed-joined-by-former-vicious-rumors-singer-nick-holleman

Their last album was awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 17, 2018, 06:53:53 PM: So I just bought Rainbow's...um..excuse me..Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow's ;D Memories In Rock II. Apparently I missed the first one..but this has a new studio track..Waiting For A Sign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKtPlcugqF0

What do you guys think about it?

Romero's voice really is a great cross between Dio and Coverdale. For being the first new song in a million years, I'd say it's a little underwhelming, but listening to it a couple of times, it's actually pretty good. Very classic sounding.

So this is my thought...Blackmore's disappearance from the hard rock scene is a crime.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2018, 07:05:46 PM: I'm a big Romero fanboy. Will definite spin this when I get a chance.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 17, 2018, 07:23:58 PM: It's pretty mellow, but I dig it. I can easily imagine Ronnie singing that one and I think it would fit in nicely on "On Stage" with a five minute guitar solo.

Cool tune
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 18, 2018, 05:26:07 AM: With the new song and the re-record Of I Surrender, I felt that he just couldn’t be bothered to record a rhythm guitar.
Romero always sounds great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on April 18, 2018, 10:21:41 AM: New Lizzy Borden track https://youtu.be/-vJdiJ8A8Qo (https://youtu.be/-vJdiJ8A8Qo)

Musically it's pretty much what I expected. A solid enough track but I have some issues with the production. Not a fan of the effect on Lizzy's voice and he's mixed too quietly. I know sometimes Youtube isn't a good indicator of how it will sound on CD so I'll hope that's the case here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 18, 2018, 12:57:15 PM: :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2018, 05:14:08 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on April 18, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
New Lizzy Borden track https://youtu.be/-vJdiJ8A8Qo (https://youtu.be/-vJdiJ8A8Qo)

Musically it's pretty much what I expected. A solid enough track but I have some issues with the production. Not a fan of the effect on Lizzy's voice and he's mixed too quietly. I know sometimes Youtube isn't a good indicator of how it will sound on CD so I'll hope that's the case here.

Sounds very "single-ish" but yeah.........solid enough to suggest some effort has gone into the album. Not sure about the sound but we'll see when the real thing hits.
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Post by: TAC on April 18, 2018, 05:39:22 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/stryper-walmart-refuses-to-carry-god-damn-evil-album-we-re-disappointed-says-michael-sweet

God Damn Wal Mart. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 18, 2018, 08:38:41 PM: I would imagine Stryper was intentionally looking to cause controversy with this album title, so this Walmart story is probably exactly what they want.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2018, 06:45:39 AM: Quote from: ozzy554 on April 18, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
New Lizzy Borden track https://youtu.be/-vJdiJ8A8Qo (https://youtu.be/-vJdiJ8A8Qo)

Musically it's pretty much what I expected. A solid enough track but I have some issues with the production. Not a fan of the effect on Lizzy's voice and he's mixed too quietly. I know sometimes Youtube isn't a good indicator of how it will sound on CD so I'll hope that's the case here.

Not really what I expected, dunno why. Loved the last album so I'll still look forward to this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on April 19, 2018, 08:23:23 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 19, 2018, 06:45:39 AM
Quote from: ozzy554 on April 18, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
New Lizzy Borden track https://youtu.be/-vJdiJ8A8Qo (https://youtu.be/-vJdiJ8A8Qo)

Musically it's pretty much what I expected. A solid enough track but I have some issues with the production. Not a fan of the effect on Lizzy's voice and he's mixed too quietly. I know sometimes Youtube isn't a good indicator of how it will sound on CD so I'll hope that's the case here.

Not really what I expected, dunno why. Loved the last album so I'll still look forward to this.

Same after I listened to the new track I started listening to some of my favorites from Appointment With death and long story short ended up listening to the full album out of order. I forgot how much I enjoyed that album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 19, 2018, 10:33:25 PM: Just got back from a Vince Neil/Helix show.

I think Vince looks exactly like Mickey Rourke. Vince was...........rough to say the least, but he tried.

Now Helix, they have good lyrics. Gimme an R...O...C...K....then the crowd yells really loud. That's a concert! Now Rush don't do stuff like that. They have lyrics about how trees talk to each other and how different sides of your brain works and outer space bullshit (Chad will get it)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 20, 2018, 05:21:40 AM: I saw Helix/Lee Aaron back in the fall. Both sounded pretty good, but holy shit do Helix look like there are some HARD miles under the hood.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on April 20, 2018, 09:18:29 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 21, 2018, 04:10:07 PM
New Dokken

https://bravewords.com/news/dokken-premiers-official-music-video-for-new-song-it-s-just-another-day

Did not listen to the new track today (I got a download, and moved the new track to the end). I will say that musically, the live performance is really good. Vocally, live, Don's not the same guy at all. He isn't as dynamic as he once was. But I am enjoying it so far. I may even go buy the physical edition (I got a promotional press download).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2018, 05:45:21 AM: Gus G

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byGUnyLObS4

This is quite impressive.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 25, 2018, 06:42:03 PM: 1) Happy Birthday Brent!!!

2) This thread should never go onto page 2.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 25, 2018, 07:11:47 PM: Thanks Jay and thanks Tim from the roulette page.

And thanks for the bump :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on April 26, 2018, 03:06:15 AM: Happy/Heavy Birthday :metal :metal :metal and all the best to you Brent.

(https://sites.create-cdn.net/siteimages/34/0/5/340574/14/3/0/14305960/2000x2000.jpg?1483893226)
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Post by: bl5150 on April 26, 2018, 03:10:58 AM: Thanks H ........hope all is well at your end :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 26, 2018, 05:26:01 AM: A shitload of work, two girls that are lovely but nerve wrecking at the same time ;D and not enough time to listen to music. But I can't complain, everything's good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2018, 07:12:12 AM: Good to hear.

I am guessing that Tim will be pleased to see Ken Mary is into Flotsam & Jetsam as a permanent member

I am also guessing that Paul will be interested in my old aunty's review of the recent Robert Plant gig here in Oz ........"bloody horrific". And that's from a Zep fan :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 30, 2018, 10:29:26 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 30, 2018, 07:12:12 AM
Good to hear.

I am guessing that Tim will be pleased to see Ken Mary is into Flotsam & Jetsam as a permanent member

I am also guessing that Paul will be interested in my old aunty's review of the recent Robert Plant gig here in Oz ........"bloody horrific". And that's from a Zep fan :lol

At his prime he would be bloody horrific. Now? I don’t think there are words. I’ve taken him off my To Punch List, because he’s an old man now.

I went to the G3 gig the other night and despite Uli Roth being completely awesome, his singer wanted to be a Robert Plant so bad, and I had to resist the urge to get on stage and slap him 😀
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Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2018, 05:08:31 PM: Nice........that's the sort of classic lowdz vs Plant reply I was hoping for :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 30, 2018, 06:39:05 PM: I forgive him. We all have our special little fails.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2018, 06:56:49 PM: Sounds like Paul has finally forgiven him too ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2018, 07:04:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 30, 2018, 07:12:12 AM
I am guessing that Tim will be pleased to see Ken Mary is into Flotsam & Jetsam as a permanent member

Well, I was not happy that Jason Bittner left. He was fantastic on their last album, and had a style very similar to Kelly Smith's. It's one of the things that gave the s/t that classic feel.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2018, 07:16:52 PM: Might've been Jay I was thinking of who is a big Ken Mary fan (Fifth Angel and all). Bittner left to be in Overkill if memory serves correct .......I assume that's a minor step up in terms of the "pull" of the respective bands.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2018, 07:19:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 05, 2018, 02:39:11 AM
Rumours around that the Conception boys have been spotted together. I realise that probably means little to many but I'd be on board "bigly."

Now confirmed :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2018, 07:26:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 30, 2018, 07:16:52 PM
Might've been Jay I was thinking of who is a big Ken Mary fan (Fifth Angel and all).

Alice Cooper and all!

Backstage at the Boston Garden, November 17, 1987.

(https://i.imgur.com/16XuTsR.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 01, 2018, 04:50:24 AM: Def Leppard are bringing their Hysteria anniversary show out to Australia - I had decided I couldn't be bothered this time around but have changed my mind seeing as Scorpions are supporting . They have never done a proper Australian tour as (Winds of Change aside) they were never big out here.. I can't say that I am their hugest fan but I do like plenty of songs and would like to see them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 01, 2018, 04:52:47 AM: Well, at least you'll be home early.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 01, 2018, 04:54:59 AM: :lol

We'll see - hopefully they might do what they did in the Vegas shows a few years back where they did an intro show (as Ded Flatbird) with all the good old stuff. Might be a bit later than we think :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2018, 05:04:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 01, 2018, 04:50:24 AM
Def Leppard are bringing their Hysteria anniversary show out to Australia - I had decided I couldn't be bothered this time around but have changed my mind seeing as Scorpions are supporting . They have never done a proper Australian tour as (Winds of Change aside) they were never big out here.. I can't say that I am their hugest fan but I do like plenty of songs and would like to see them.

How much?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 01, 2018, 05:06:04 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 01, 2018, 05:04:35 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 01, 2018, 04:50:24 AM
Def Leppard are bringing their Hysteria anniversary show out to Australia - I had decided I couldn't be bothered this time around but have changed my mind seeing as Scorpions are supporting . They have never done a proper Australian tour as (Winds of Change aside) they were never big out here.. I can't say that I am their hugest fan but I do like plenty of songs and would like to see them.

How much?

As per usual it depends where you sit but the cheaper seats are around $100 which (given our normal exorbitant prices) is pretty cheap for 2 big name bands at an arena
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 01, 2018, 05:37:19 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 01, 2018, 04:50:24 AM
<Scorpions>

I saw them with QR opening a couple years back. They put on a great show, and Klaus sounds excellent - but holy fuck is he short!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 01, 2018, 05:42:14 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 01, 2018, 04:54:59 AM

We'll see - hopefully they might do what they did in the Vegas shows a few years back where they did an intro show (as Ded Flatbird) with all the good old stuff.

I thought I read somewhere that those songs are now retired.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 01, 2018, 10:29:40 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 01, 2018, 05:37:19 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 01, 2018, 04:50:24 AM
<Scorpions>

I saw them with QR opening a couple years back. They put on a great show, and Klaus sounds excellent - but holy fuck is he short!

A mate of mine has a theory about short arses becoming singers. So many are short. The handsome ones play guitar of course....
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 01, 2018, 10:32:33 AM: (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KNaV6OG4ao0/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 01, 2018, 10:40:15 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 30, 2018, 05:08:31 PM
Nice........that's the sort of classic lowdz vs Plant reply I was hoping for :lol

I don’t like to disappoint. Ask my Mrs :blush
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 01, 2018, 01:16:41 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/rock-n-roll-fantasy-camp-announces-final-dates-for-2018-paul-stanley-with-tommy-thayer-john-5-in-october-joe-perry-and-jason-bonham-in-November

Apparently you have to pay extra to get Joe Perry excited enough to play right handed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 02, 2018, 07:59:40 AM: In a few minutes (my time) it will be the 30th anniversary of this

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Queensryche_-_Operation_Mindcrime_cover.jpg/220px-Queensryche_-_Operation_Mindcrime_cover.jpg)

:2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal:

:2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 02, 2018, 11:38:27 AM: A few hours yet for me, but yeah, joint greatest album of all time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 02, 2018, 01:47:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 02, 2018, 07:59:40 AM
In a few minutes (my time) it will be the 30th anniversary of this

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Queensryche_-_Operation_Mindcrime_cover.jpg/220px-Queensryche_-_Operation_Mindcrime_cover.jpg)

:2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal:

:2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal:

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2018, 04:39:06 PM: :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 02, 2018, 10:42:22 PM: A truly classic masterpiece :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 04, 2018, 01:10:40 AM: Operation: Mindcrime for me too. Joint greatest album of all time. Legendary status.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 04, 2018, 06:52:14 PM: A couple of new releases:

(https://www.nuclearblast.de/en/data/bands/riot-v/releases/riot-v-armor-of-light.jpg?x=330&y=330)

Textbook heavy metal. The drums are mixed a bit too high but this album delivers. :metal

(https://cdn.metallus.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/anthraxkingsamongscotlandcover.jpg)

This is one of the best live albums I've heard in a long f'n time. Great mix, great sound, great tunes, great performances.
:metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2018, 09:28:42 PM: I found the Riot a real disappointment - and was going in with a positive bias after really enjoying recent albums. I thought it had plenty of filler.

I hope Anthrax are paying Gene for that cover or there could be trouble :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 05, 2018, 04:02:26 AM: Didn't know there was an Anthrax live disc, have to check it out.

And I don't know Riot but that cover is cheesy as fuck. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2018, 05:58:56 AM: Is there a DVD of the Anthrax?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 05, 2018, 06:25:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 05, 2018, 05:58:56 AM
Is there a DVD of the Anthrax?

There is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 05, 2018, 08:05:39 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 05, 2018, 04:02:26 AM
Didn't know there was an Anthrax live disc, have to check it out.

And I don't know Riot but that cover is cheesy as fuck. :biggrin:

That is a theme with Riot. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 05, 2018, 08:06:45 AM: Don't mess with Johnny The Seal - we've had this discussion before :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2018, 04:29:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2018, 06:25:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 05, 2018, 05:58:56 AM
Is there a DVD of the Anthrax?

There is.

Yeah nice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2018, 11:53:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 04, 2018, 09:28:42 PM
I hope Anthrax are paying Gene for that cover or there could be trouble :lol

Honestly, I don't understand the cover at all. I mean, if this were a Covers Album, then fine, at least it might make sense. But this is their own live album, and a damn good one at that. I just think it's cheesy.

Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2018, 06:25:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 05, 2018, 05:58:56 AM
Is there a DVD of the Anthrax?

There is.

Yes there is. the footage is excellent, but I will not be buying it. I know I'll never watch it. It's weird, right, but I just never have the time to sit and watch a DVD. Ever.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 06, 2018, 12:05:24 PM: Regarding dvds I'm the same, I watch them once, maybe twice if they're outstanding, but I just don't have the time to sit down and watch them more often. I therefore prefer live cds and hate it if something is released only as dvd/blueray or only as a package with horrendous pricing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2018, 12:08:21 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 06, 2018, 12:05:24 PM
Regarding dvds I'm the same, I watch them once, maybe twice if they're outstanding, but I just don't have the time to sit down and watch them more often. I therefore prefer live cds and hate it if something is released only as dvd/blueray or only as a package with horrendous pricing.

Right, and I hate to say it, but I understand how YouTube really affects this. I mean, even though I don't have the time to watch an entire thing, even if I want to watch a song, it requires me to go downstairs, choose the DVD, find the DVD remote, put the disc in, change the TV input....by this time, I forget what fucking song it was that I wanted to watch!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 06, 2018, 01:29:14 PM: It is very rare that I buy live dvd's. I would probably watch it once, and that would be it. But I will always get a live cd of a band that I like as I would much rather listen to a band on cd than watch them on dvd.

I'm going to get this new Anthrax live cd in June and get it at the same time as the new Fates Warning. A double whammy.

All the samples of both are sounding great!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 06, 2018, 06:35:03 PM: I like DVDs because I put it on while I'm working out... if I'm lifting or doing some HIIT, then it isn't quite a dedicated 'watch', but if I'm on the exercise bike, I can give it my full attention.

And now that the Leafs and (soon to be) Raptors are out, I can go back to watching concerts while I workout.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2018, 06:36:20 PM: Yeah true, I don't know why I asked, I haven't watched a concert DVD for ages and when I buy one, rarely have any time to watch anything.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 07, 2018, 04:57:29 AM: I prefer a live dvd to a live album but I don’t get time to wAtch them these days. I bought the Ayreon two weeks ago and haven’t watched more than 20 minutes of it yet.

But if I spot overdubbing it kills it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2018, 05:00:45 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 07, 2018, 04:57:29 AM
I prefer a live dvd to a live album but I don’t get time to wAtch them these days. I bought the Ayreon two weeks ago and haven’t watched more than 20 minutes of it yet.

But if I spot overdubbing it kills it.

I would agree with this. Really leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. Might as well watch a music video.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 07, 2018, 07:05:26 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 07, 2018, 05:00:45 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on May 07, 2018, 04:57:29 AM
I prefer a live dvd to a live album but I don’t get time to wAtch them these days. I bought the Ayreon two weeks ago and haven’t watched more than 20 minutes of it yet.

But if I spot overdubbing it kills it.

I would agree with this. Really leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. Might as well watch a music video.

Worst for this was Royal Hunts dvd with John West.. and he denied overdubbing it. If that’s so, the guy who sync’d it wants hooting
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 07, 2018, 11:03:07 AM: I don't like it when the overdubbing is obvious but I believe most live albums are tampered with, especially nowadays. And then there are bands with so much backing tapes on stage that you don't know what's live anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 07, 2018, 11:39:37 AM: I passed on the Anthrax. I am more a fan of the Bush era, and I am a big fan of Persistence of Time with Belladonna. With nothing from the latter, and obviously, this being Belladonna instead of Bush, I didn't really see the need to get it. I may change my mind at some point, but I don't know. For now, I'll live vicariously through you guys. :lol

Regarding the whole live CD vs. live DVD thing...I usually get both, but I have found myself staring at my DVD/Blu ray concert collection more than a few times in the past year, wondering if I should part with some of it. I just don't watch it. Live CDs though...I still really enjoy having live captures of eras of bands I enjoy.

About the overdubs...it just depends. With video productions, overdubs are generally done. On audio CDs, it just depends. I mean I don't think the Fates audio from the upcoming released was messed with. That's why they recorded so many shows. They picked the best performances and went with it. However, on that newest Dokken live release with the original lineup...George was doing a clinic last week that my friend attended, and my buddy flat-out asked about the overdubs. He said Don had to overdub the entire thing. And even George admitted having to go in and play a couple of things again.

So, very few live video productions are completely clean. But I think if you get a live album culled from multiple shows, that's probably purely live.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 09, 2018, 01:18:09 AM: I can't remember if you like Europe Kade but outside of Melbourne and Sydney the tour obviously isn't selling great. You can now get tix for the Brisbane show (23rd may) at 60 bucks (originally $97)

Perth is even more heavily discounted. And all the WA people constantly bitch about why nobody plays there - finally Europe include WA and it gets no support.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 09, 2018, 05:37:24 AM: Europe not selling in Australia? Something tells me there is a cheap joke to be made, but I can't think of one. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2018, 05:38:12 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 09, 2018, 01:18:09 AM
I can't remember if you like Europe Kade but outside of Melbourne and Sydney the tour obviously isn't selling great. You can now get tix for the Brisbane show (23rd may) at 60 bucks (originally $97)

Perth is even more heavily discounted. And all the WA people constantly bitch about why nobody plays there - finally Europe include WA and it gets no support.

Casual fan mate, not enough to go and see them though. If it were a Saturday me and my partner would probably pay that.

This type of music just seems dead overall here. I mean, I don't really know what I'm talking about as I don't go out like never though haha. Maiden and the like always get good turnouts though but smaller bands even of the caliber of Europe and down just doesn't seem to get people interested. I never come across anyone that likes this music. Work is my main social network cause I'm there 12 hours a day 350 odd days of the year, but I've worked with a LOT of people over the last ten years and just never come across anyone that hasn't heard of any of the bands I listen to let alone be a fan of them.

I've been thinking lately of getting back into the guitar and look at getting into a band again or something to see if I can meet anyone with my interests or be able to match it to do something worthwhile, even covers, but just not sure if there is much out there for what I like around the area. Perhaps I've just got my head in the sand though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 09, 2018, 06:39:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 09, 2018, 05:38:12 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 09, 2018, 01:18:09 AM
I can't remember if you like Europe Kade but outside of Melbourne and Sydney the tour obviously isn't selling great. You can now get tix for the Brisbane show (23rd may) at 60 bucks (originally $97)

Perth is even more heavily discounted. And all the WA people constantly bitch about why nobody plays there - finally Europe include WA and it gets no support.

Casual fan mate, not enough to go and see them though. If it were a Saturday me and my partner would probably pay that.

This type of music just seems dead overall here. I mean, I don't really know what I'm talking about as I don't go out like never though haha. Maiden and the like always get good turnouts though but smaller bands even of the caliber of Europe and down just doesn't seem to get people interested. I never come across anyone that likes this music. Work is my main social network cause I'm there 12 hours a day 350 odd days of the year, but I've worked with a LOT of people over the last ten years and just never come across anyone that hasn't heard of any of the bands I listen to let alone be a fan of them.

I've been thinking lately of getting back into the guitar and look at getting into a band again or something to see if I can meet anyone with my interests or be able to match it to do something worthwhile, even covers, but just not sure if there is much out there for what I like around the area. Perhaps I've just got my head in the sand though.

We're pretty similar mate. I rarely get out aside from the odd gig - going to a club and listening to dance music is akin to waterboarding me ;D

I am only semi-regularly in touch with 3 or 4 guys I went to school with and in all cases they are into hard rock or metal. Subconsciously I may have culled all those who were into shit music. Actually they were all assholes so maybe all the good guys listen to metal :metal Come to think of it pretty much everyone in my life likes metal except my missus . Believe it or not my 77yo dad (another one of my converts) came over for dinner the other night and he pulls out his "list" of topics for discussion as usual and he says " That new single from Angra is pretty good." :lol

As far as metal being dead , not here - but I think Melbourne is a special case. Out here in the deep outer suburbs you will still get 100+ people paying $25 to see a KISS covers band. And I can tell you that on the day Def Leppard/Scoprions went on general sale that they'd pretty much sold out Rod Laver Arena (10,000-12000) within 15 minutes.

I would love nothing more than to have the time to get back into guitar but then actually finding other decent musos and a singer that want to play metal covers and then getting gigs etc.............that whole process would be nigh on impossible. I still regret not doing that many years ago but unfortunately I was at my peak on the guitar in the early 90's and we know what that was like. I had a choice out of quitting or playing fucking Nutbush and Jessie's Girl in a wedding band. I quit :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 09, 2018, 09:18:59 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 09, 2018, 06:39:27 AM
I had a choice out of quitting or playing fucking Nutbush and Jessie's Girl in a wedding band. I quit :biggrin:

Unfortunately, you made the smarter move. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2018, 06:54:33 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 09, 2018, 06:39:27 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 09, 2018, 05:38:12 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 09, 2018, 01:18:09 AM
I can't remember if you like Europe Kade but outside of Melbourne and Sydney the tour obviously isn't selling great. You can now get tix for the Brisbane show (23rd may) at 60 bucks (originally $97)

Perth is even more heavily discounted. And all the WA people constantly bitch about why nobody plays there - finally Europe include WA and it gets no support.

Casual fan mate, not enough to go and see them though. If it were a Saturday me and my partner would probably pay that.

This type of music just seems dead overall here. I mean, I don't really know what I'm talking about as I don't go out like never though haha. Maiden and the like always get good turnouts though but smaller bands even of the caliber of Europe and down just doesn't seem to get people interested. I never come across anyone that likes this music. Work is my main social network cause I'm there 12 hours a day 350 odd days of the year, but I've worked with a LOT of people over the last ten years and just never come across anyone that hasn't heard of any of the bands I listen to let alone be a fan of them.

I've been thinking lately of getting back into the guitar and look at getting into a band again or something to see if I can meet anyone with my interests or be able to match it to do something worthwhile, even covers, but just not sure if there is much out there for what I like around the area. Perhaps I've just got my head in the sand though.

We're pretty similar mate. I rarely get out aside from the odd gig - going to a club and listening to dance music is akin to waterboarding me ;D

I am only semi-regularly in touch with 3 or 4 guys I went to school with and in all cases they are into hard rock or metal. Subconsciously I may have culled all those who were into shit music. Actually they were all assholes so maybe all the good guys listen to metal :metal Come to think of it pretty much everyone in my life likes metal except my missus . Believe it or not my 77yo dad (another one of my converts) came over for dinner the other night and he pulls out his "list" of topics for discussion as usual and he says " That new single from Angra is pretty good." :lol

As far as metal being dead , not here - but I think Melbourne is a special case. Out here in the deep outer suburbs you will still get 100+ people paying $25 to see a KISS covers band. And I can tell you that on the day Def Leppard/Scoprions went on general sale that they'd pretty much sold out Rod Laver Arena (10,000-12000) within 15 minutes.

I would love nothing more than to have the time to get back into guitar but then actually finding other decent musos and a singer that want to play metal covers and then getting gigs etc.............that whole process would be nigh on impossible. I still regret not doing that many years ago but unfortunately I was at my peak on the guitar in the early 90's and we know what that was like. I had a choice out of quitting or playing fucking Nutbush and Jessie's Girl in a wedding band. I quit :biggrin:

Absolutely on those two bolded sections. I'm a pretty cunning person and cut everyone that does me wrong or doesn't have interests that interest me, guess that's why I'm a bit of a lone wolf, really, but I don't have time for most people. But you're right, most of them are or were assholes.

I remember still to this day my best mate in last year of high school. I was well into metal and the guitar and he also was taking a liking to the Maidens, Priest, Gamma Ray, Hammerfall etc. whatever I was into. All of a sudden he changed his music tastes to mainstream pop and starting looking at me like I was a freak listening to that music. Like out of the fucking blue he changed. I had I think Halford's Resurrection as I was super excited when I heard that and picked it up, and went over and played it for him, but his tastes had well changed. He actually said to me "How are you going to meet girls listening to that? What do you think they are going to think when they don't know any of the bands you listen to. No one will ever take you seriously etc."

Needless to say I was stunned and slowy cut ties with him, don't need that shit. Anyway, that's slightly off topic, but after all that, I agree haha. And yeah, even from where I am I can tell in Syndey and Melbourne it would be a more lively vibrant scene, and the second bolded part getting a metal covers band would most definitely be impossible, especially up here. A shame. I'd actually love to move down Sydney or Melbourne for a year or so and see what's out there. I'd still love to get back into something seriously. One day if my job situation changed we might do that, me and my partner have talked about that.

One day mate, if I ever move down or you and the family move up here, we're starting a band, no arguments! ;D :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2018, 06:58:32 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 09, 2018, 09:18:59 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 09, 2018, 06:39:27 AM
I had a choice out of quitting or playing fucking Nutbush and Jessie's Girl in a wedding band. I quit :biggrin:

Unfortunately, you made the smarter move. :lol

You laugh, but sadly, you are quite correct. Playing pub covers was one thing that made me dislike the guitar for a number of years. I've really started to love it again the last 12 months even though I don't get teh time to just sit for hours and play like I use to.

But playing some of those songs can just suck the life out of you. A few songs you don't mind and is quite fun but all in all, it kills your passion and life for the instrument. Actually you'd normally play 4 45-50 minute sets and it was only usually the last set with something a bit more rocking that made it a little enjoyable, plus having a few burbouns under your belt. But all in all, it's tough going when you are into the music we are into. Maybe I'd look at it different now, I'd like to try again, but my work responsibility is the biggest part of my life and couldn't be assed doing something like that at the same time right now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2018, 01:55:17 PM: I never had any interest in joining a band or playing gigs. Strictly a bedroom guitarist.

There are two bars in my town that put metal bands on. I did for a while think of forming a band to play the deeper cuts from the 80s bands but from seeing the bands play, the people just want the hits. The locals at the metal bar get every band who plays there to cover War Pigs, no matter what genre they play :facepalm:

Or a metal ABBA tribute. That would be fun...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 10, 2018, 02:32:42 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 10, 2018, 01:55:17 PM
Or a metal ABBA tribute. That would be fun...

(https://i1.wp.com/www.metalinjection.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Abba-Black-Metal.jpg?fit=640%2C640)
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Post by: Big Hath on May 10, 2018, 03:30:25 PM: ABBAcalypse
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2018, 05:00:32 PM: :lol

ABBA - toir
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2018, 05:02:07 PM: :D

If you like the idea of ABBA mixed with metal classics then the Black Sweden album is pretty decent. Paul would remember that one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2018, 06:12:31 PM: The only thing I really know from ABBA is the Yngwie cover, Gimme Gimme Gimme Gimme

Still not sure what to think of that one. Same with his Beat it cover.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 11, 2018, 01:14:38 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2018, 06:12:31 PM
The only thing I really know from ABBA is the Yngwie cover, Gimme Gimme Gimme Gimme

Still not sure what to think of that one. Same with his Beat it cover.

Bob Rock’s cover of Eagle jj? My favourite ABBA song and a great cover.

And yeah, got that Black Sweden album. Most of it is great.

There was another that mashed ABBA songs with metal classics which I didn’t like as much. And At Vance are always throwing an ABBA cover on their albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2018, 06:50:25 AM: I fucking hate Abba.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 11, 2018, 11:12:26 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 11, 2018, 06:50:25 AM
I fucking hate Abba.

There goes my next submission to your roulette...
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2018, 07:47:53 PM: There might be a pattern here.

(https://s14.postimg.cc/47rkijre9/Capture.png)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/7em423jj5/Capture.png)

:)
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Post by: TAC on May 11, 2018, 07:51:13 PM: (https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/288/653/844.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2018, 12:03:27 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 11, 2018, 07:47:53 PM
There might be a pattern here.

(https://s14.postimg.cc/47rkijre9/Capture.png)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/7em423jj5/Capture.png)

:)

Y u do dis to me? :mehlin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 12, 2018, 12:58:28 AM: It took me ages to figure out how to reverse that bloody S in ISSA - I hope you appreciate the effort ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2018, 04:31:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 12, 2018, 12:58:28 AM
It took me ages to figure out how to reverse that bloody S in ISSA - I hope you appreciate the effort ;D

Your work will haunt me in my nightmares for some time to come.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2018, 05:49:38 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 12, 2018, 04:31:30 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 12, 2018, 12:58:28 AM
It took me ages to figure out how to reverse that bloody S in ISSA - I hope you appreciate the effort ;D

Your work will haunt me in my nightmares for some time to come.

Punish him with a low score.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 12, 2018, 05:58:48 AM: Looks like Chad is having roulette nightmares :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2018, 06:31:36 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 12, 2018, 05:58:48 AM
Looks like Chad is having roulette nightmares :metal

(https://replygif.net/i/120.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 12, 2018, 07:16:47 AM: That's how I was picturing you yeah :lol

I think I will freak out like that if I find more than a couple of strong releases in 2018.

I am now getting through 2018 releases at a rate of knots . Maybe I ain't looking in the right places but so far 2018 is making 2017 look like a year for the ages.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2018, 07:32:16 AM: I hear ya... so far I've only bought 4 albums; saved a dozen or so on Spotify, and those were a stretch. Not a standout year at all so far. Most of what I've sampled has been shite.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 12, 2018, 07:57:30 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 12, 2018, 07:32:16 AM
I hear ya... so far I've only bought 4 albums; saved a dozen or so on Spotify, and those were a stretch. Not a standout year at all so far. Most of what I've sampled has been shite.

Really? I’ve bought like 10 albums and saved a bunch.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2018, 09:36:10 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 12, 2018, 07:57:30 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 12, 2018, 07:32:16 AM
I hear ya... so far I've only bought 4 albums; saved a dozen or so on Spotify, and those were a stretch. Not a standout year at all so far. Most of what I've sampled has been shite.

Really? I’ve bought like 10 albums and saved a bunch.

Yeah, but you're down a path I cannot follow. :biggrin:

To be clear, I'm referring only to 2018 releases. I've bought/saved a handful of others if I take into account everything. I guess you can have the torch that Brent and I have carried for long enough now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on May 12, 2018, 02:17:08 PM: Tim’s not really on a path, per se, more like a treadmill.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 12, 2018, 05:08:31 PM: WUT? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2018, 05:26:31 PM: Quote from: Podaar on May 12, 2018, 02:17:08 PM
Tim’s not really on a path, per se, more like a treadmill.

Are you calling Tim fat?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 13, 2018, 01:59:35 PM: It’s middle age spread. Us fogeys get that :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2018, 07:12:12 PM: This is the title track from White Wizzard's new album. Pretty crap album - although they have a decent back catalogue in parts.

Anyway..............notice anything familiar about the first verse? :rollin

https://youtu.be/5_cBpFRpo3I
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 13, 2018, 07:16:14 PM: Painkiller :metal

:lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2018, 07:52:41 PM: Its a knockoff, but still sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 14, 2018, 01:34:19 AM: Good grief. Not a lot of subtlety there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 14, 2018, 05:45:25 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 13, 2018, 07:12:12 PM
This is the title track from White Wizzard's new album. Pretty crap album - although they have a decent back catalogue in parts.

Anyway..............notice anything familiar about the first verse? :rollin

https://youtu.be/5_cBpFRpo3I

Obviously a total coincidence........... :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 14, 2018, 10:45:30 AM: Stop listening to 2017 and 2018 releases ffs :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 14, 2018, 04:36:28 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 14, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
Stop listening to 2017 and 2018 releases ffs :biggrin:

Sorry boss haha.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 15, 2018, 05:51:37 AM: New project with Ronnie Romeo by the looks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e47QIdEs7g

Frontiers, but I like this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 15, 2018, 06:41:34 AM: Me likey. Aldridge on drums too. This was in the side-bar for me

Castronovo / Gioelli - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5M4etx36WY

I think I just threw up in my ears a little.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2018, 06:51:11 AM: I have the other couple of Destinia albums and they're pretty patchy , but that sounds alright.

I actually listened to the new Lords of Black today and I prefer the sound of the Destinia if that is representative. I think I am starting to get a little Romero'd out to be honest but will certainly check this one out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 16, 2018, 11:57:07 AM: I have the last Destinia and considered it for the last round of Kade’s roulette. As usual, Brent is on the money.

Not played the Lords of Black yet but Ronnie is risking John style burnout.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 16, 2018, 02:12:22 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 16, 2018, 11:57:07 AM
I have the last Destinia and considered it for the last round of Kade’s roulette. As usual, Brent is on the money.

Not played the Lords of Black yet but Ronnie is risking John style burnout.

Nah... Brent is daft. The new Lords of Black sounded excellent.

Sadly, older Destinia albums are not on Spotify to try out. Wonder if I should trust you blokes to make a unheard purchase?? :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2018, 04:19:38 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 15, 2018, 06:41:34 AM
Me likey. Aldridge on drums too. This was in the side-bar for me

Castronovo / Gioelli - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5M4etx36WY

I think I just threw up in my ears a little.

I like how in the actual clip its the first time they are seeing each other for years mid recording a song. Lol WTF.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 16, 2018, 04:42:38 PM: Look what came up in the side bar ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjTY8szqnpg

I think Castro and Gioeli sound good together and the track is as expected for a single. The cheesiness of the video gets a 10/10.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 16, 2018, 07:11:52 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 16, 2018, 04:42:38 PM
Look what came up in the side bar ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjTY8szqnpg

I think Castro and Gioeli sound good together and the track is as expected for a single. The cheesiness of the video gets a 10/10.

Truthfully, that wasn't too bad. Oh wait, I had the mute button on.

Now I really did throw up in my ears. I lasted 95 seconds.

#awaitsdigfromtim
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Post by: TAC on May 16, 2018, 07:15:26 PM: #lookingovershoulder
#myworkisdone
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2018, 07:55:55 PM: When it comes to these Frontiers videos, besides Primal Fear, I don't think I've made it through an entire song from any of these bands.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2018, 11:46:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 16, 2018, 04:42:38 PM
Look what came up in the side bar ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjTY8szqnpg

I think Castro and Gioeli sound good together and the track is as expected for a single. The cheesiness of the video gets a 10/10.

i'm not clicking on that one.

Posted my thoughts on that Castro/Geielo video above, WTF?! :facepalm: :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 18, 2018, 12:31:37 PM: Just listened to Bonfire's new release. I thought I'd known a bit of them from back in the day, but apparently not.

I need recommendations / advice.

Go!
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 18, 2018, 01:35:07 PM: I had Don't Touch the Light and Fireworks from Bonfire.

All the songs were pretty solid, but nothing jumped out to me and stood out from the rest of the hair metal pack. Generic hard rock, but still pretty good. The song "sweet obsession" stood out to me but nothing on those records made me want to look into them any further. And I think those two albums are their most known/popular records.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 18, 2018, 02:00:40 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 18, 2018, 12:31:37 PM
Just listened to Bonfire's new release. I thought I'd known a bit of them from back in the day, but apparently not.

I need recommendations / advice.

Go!

Fireworks is essential. Point Blankis wor5h it. The rest isn’t worth getting too excited about.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 19, 2018, 06:35:16 PM: So, this is more of a chat type post than a Hard Rock/Metal post....

Every couple of months, I spend a night youtubing Gary Moore videos. It's sort of a soul cleansing thing. There's no one like him.

I came across this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M9zUQT1QYE

It's from George Harrison's final concert at Royal Albert Hall. It's amateur video of While My Guitar Gently Weeps. Gary guests on this and FUCKING KILLS IT! What's awesome is the amazement and joy on Harrison's face watching Gary play. There's a great solo in the middle, and then an extended one to end the song.

:hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 19, 2018, 07:58:39 PM: Australia, please explain this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLHXYLHMhKI
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2018, 08:11:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 19, 2018, 07:58:39 PM
Australia, please explain this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLHXYLHMhKI

World - explain how you could not think that's awesome :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 19, 2018, 08:15:57 PM: :lol

:metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on May 19, 2018, 08:49:34 PM: that was amazing
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2018, 04:27:40 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 19, 2018, 07:58:39 PM
Australia, please explain this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLHXYLHMhKI

It's moments like this that make me so proud to be an Aussie.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 20, 2018, 04:38:03 AM: It's like AC/DC, Twisted Sister, and Monty Python had a 3-way hate fuck that went horribly wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 20, 2018, 09:37:32 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 20, 2018, 04:38:03 AM
It's like AC/DC, Twisted Sister, and Monty Python had a 3-way hate fuck that went horribly wrong.

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 20, 2018, 03:52:41 PM: (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/58/d9/2858d9aa7d2e893aefc1e5790da5d405.jpg)

:biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 20, 2018, 08:57:42 PM: I went and saw Europe in concert on the weekend along with 2,000 others in Melbourne and anyone who has been a fan should go check them out. I was a bit iffy on it as I haven't been much of a fan of the reunion releases (more Zep/Purple style) but they played a great setlist covering all eras well , with a focus more on the older stuff if anything. The newer tracks were some of the more melodic ones.

Joey Tempest - allowing for everything being tuned down as expected - was in great form and hardly hit a dud note all night. Aside from a loss of his higher range he is still far more versatile than most of his contemporaries (Bon Jovi being a glaring example) . His unique voice is still smooth as silk . Like most rock/metal concerts these days the lead guitar sounded like a laser weapon or something designed to cut through all the noise (pretty awful) but Norum was clearly in pretty good form. Ian Haugland managed to make his toy size drum kit sound about 5 times bigger and he did a great , fun drum solo.

Joey Tempest in particular was very gracious and appreciative of the fans , making special note that we had waited 30+ years for them to come out and he actually took the time during one of the songs to come onto the floor and hi-five the guys and give the girls a hug/peck on the cheek. Seems a really nice , down to earth sort of dude.

Set list below with a few brief video samples (a few of the better quality ones.......my iPhone 5S camera/mic is shithouse unfortunately. it sounded far,far better live)

WALK THE EARTH
THE SEIGE
ROCK THE NIGHT / WHOLE LOTTA ROSIE
SCREAM OF ANGER
DANGER ON THE TRACK https://youtu.be/vZd0up9hi8c
FIREBOX
SIGN OF THE TIMES
VASASTAN
GIRL FROM LEBANON
OPEN YOUR HEART
WAR OF KINGS
HEART OF STONE https://youtu.be/qYF0MwyBFEE
THE DAYS OF ROCK N ROLL
SUPERSTITIOUS

-----INTERVAL---------

READY OR NOT
LAST LOOK AT EDEN
HOLE IN MY POCKET
SEVEN DOORS HOTEL
CARRIE https://youtu.be/lwfNYq2x2hg
TURN TO DUST
DRUM SOLO
STORMWIND https://youtu.be/quvrnR-CobE
PRISONERS IN PARADISE
GTO https://youtu.be/rQbyujPLWUg
LET THE GOOD TIMES ROCK https://youtu.be/2z60IBXxNHc

----ENCORE-------

CHEROKEE https://youtu.be/dzS81XdD8XQ
THE FINAL COUNTDOWN https://youtu.be/I8ex04R106w

And Joey doing rounds in the crowd https://youtu.be/iCcdX6E5S0o

Song of the night for me : Stormwind

(https://s7.postimg.cc/53yu92caz/IMG_0939.jpg)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/5gq8facl7/IMG_0940.jpg)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/fe198czmj/IMG_0942.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: KevShmev on May 20, 2018, 09:23:56 PM: I was a major Europe fan in the late 80's, yet I have never anything by them that wasn't on The Final Countdown or Out of This World. I will add them to my list in my 80's deep cuts thread.
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Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2018, 05:17:20 AM: Nice report there Brent. Good solid setlist too by the looks.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 21, 2018, 07:34:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 21, 2018, 05:17:20 AM
Nice report there Brent. Good solid setlist too by the looks.

Agreed.

@ Kev... Prisoner's in Paradise should be at the top of your list. Their 2000s 'reunion' stuff is good-to-excellent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 21, 2018, 03:20:49 PM: Sounds like a great night. Not seen them since the first reunion album. Always deliver live. That’s a decent setlist.
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2018, 03:36:44 PM: Awesome!

Expecting a report for the Good Times show on Friday!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2018, 05:00:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2018, 03:36:44 PM

Expecting a report for the Good Times show on Friday!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/OR9JBCCLKIj6w/giphy.gif)

The Good Times show would be more your thing Tim. A bunch of old "rockers" from the 60's all together as a "supergroup." Luckily it is sponsored by Australian Pensioners Insurance so they should be covered in the event that anyone on stage or in the audience finds it all a bit much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: KevShmev on May 21, 2018, 05:50:51 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 21, 2018, 07:34:29 AM

@ Kev... Prisoner's in Paradise should be at the top of your list. Their 2000s 'reunion' stuff is good-to-excellent.

Okay. I will do some digging. :corn
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 21, 2018, 07:54:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2018, 05:00:17 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2018, 03:36:44 PM

Expecting a report for the Good Times show on Friday!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/OR9JBCCLKIj6w/giphy.gif)

:metal

Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2018, 05:00:17 PM
The Good Times show would be more your thing Tim. A bunch of old "rockers" from the 60's all together as a "supergroup." Luckily it is sponsored by Australian Pensioners Insurance so they should be covered in the event that anyone on stage or in the audience finds it all a bit much.

My thing? :lol

Hey, as long as I have one of these..

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VhIAAOxyY3ZRzIne/s-l300.jpg)

..I should be OK.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2018, 05:09:00 AM: New Primal Fear!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyZWktAtUpk

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2018, 07:18:00 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on May 22, 2018, 07:20:41 AM: Definitely a rocking tune.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 22, 2018, 01:45:17 PM: I thought that was shit. Admittedly I listened with the volume quiet so I’ll give it another go when the kids are in bed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 22, 2018, 01:50:00 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 22, 2018, 01:45:17 PM
I thought that was shit.

:lol

There is just something about Primal Fear that I just cannot get into. Definitely not a Sheepers fan.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2018, 01:56:03 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 22, 2018, 01:45:17 PM
I thought that was shit. Admittedly I listened with the volume quiet so I’ll give it another go when the kids are in bed.

Wouldn't quite call it shit, but it was a little on the mediocre side.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2018, 06:30:50 PM: I liked it, and thought it was a little different even though you could tell there was some reused ideas, if that makes sense.

I must say, I really don't like Alex's guitar playing anyway. I would almost call that shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 23, 2018, 03:43:59 PM: Listened again as a decent volume. Totally loved it. I liked those Eastern vibes. Moral of the story, metal needs to be played loud. Who knew?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 23, 2018, 04:13:43 PM: Everyone?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2018, 04:35:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 23, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Listened again as a decent volume. Totally loved it. I liked those Eastern vibes. Moral of the story, metal needs to be played loud. Who knew?

Well thats a turn around. Yeah better late than never finding out Paul that metal needs to be played on 11.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 23, 2018, 04:59:39 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 23, 2018, 04:35:08 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on May 23, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Listened again as a decent volume. Totally loved it. I liked those Eastern vibes. Moral of the story, metal needs to be played loud. Who knew?

Well thats a turn around. Yeah better late than never finding out Paul that metal needs to be played on 11.

Especially the song "Lick My Love Pump"
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 24, 2018, 04:13:19 PM: Nice one centurion :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on May 29, 2018, 04:12:07 AM: Primal Fear - two date Australian tour just announced.
Melb - 16 Nov Max Watts
Syd - 17 Nov max Watts
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2018, 06:37:43 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on May 29, 2018, 04:12:07 AM
Primal Fear - two date Australian tour just announced.
Melb - 16 Nov Max Watts
Syd - 17 Nov max Watts

Of fucking course. Again just Sydney and Melbourne.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 29, 2018, 12:50:23 PM: New Fifth Angel album dropping in September. It will be called The Third Secret. First album under the Fifth Angel name in almost 30 years (Time Will Tell was released in 1989).

The band now only consists of Kendall Bechtel (vocals/guitar), Ken Mary (drums), and John Macko (bass). All three of them played on Time Will Tell. Ed Archer (guitars and the last founding member) is gone, as is Peter Orullian on vocals. I am sure for live gigs, they'll add another guitarist.

Kendall is an outstanding singer, so I am sure he will do a fine job. He sang on James Byrd (ex-Fifth Angel lead guitars) record called Crimes of Virtuosity under the name Kendall Tory.

News link - https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/fifth-angel-sign-with-nuclear-blast-records-the-third-secret-album-due-in-september/

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net/media/fifthangelbandmay2018_638.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2018, 12:08:51 AM: Wow. This will probably be surprisingly good or sucking hard.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2018, 12:27:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 30, 2018, 12:08:51 AM
Wow. This will probably be surprisingly good or sucking hard.

Time will tell :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2018, 05:31:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 30, 2018, 12:27:29 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 30, 2018, 12:08:51 AM
Wow. This will probably be surprisingly good or sucking hard.

Time will tell :neverusethis:

I thought that was actually quite brilliant.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 30, 2018, 08:04:30 AM: I just checked out some song samples from the James Byrd project with Kendall Bechtel singing. Really good singer, I think he will fit in well with the Fifth Angel sound.

There is definitely a chance this will be weak, but I'm leaning towards betting that it will be better than expected. I'm a big fan of Fifth Angel's two albums, and I'm quite surprised that a third album is coming out. For me, I'm sure I'll like it a lot more than others (not including Brian lol).

There are actually 4 cult metal bands from the 80's/early 90's that I had always hoped would release one more album- Fifth Angel, Sword, Lethal and Crimson Glory. And this year Fifth Angel will definitely release one. And both Sword and Lethal have announced that they are recording an album with an expected release date this year. So that just leaves Crimson Glory, but I'm not expecting anything else from them.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2018, 08:09:47 AM: It's a shame that Crimson Glory never did an album with TLT while they had the chance.
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Post by: Samsara on May 30, 2018, 11:30:49 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 30, 2018, 08:04:30 AM
I just checked out some song samples from the James Byrd project with Kendall Bechtel singing. Really good singer, I think he will fit in well with the Fifth Angel sound.

There is definitely a chance this will be weak, but I'm leaning towards betting that it will be better than expected. I'm a big fan of Fifth Angel's two albums, and I'm quite surprised that a third album is coming out. For me, I'm sure I'll like it a lot more than others (not including Brian lol).

:lol

Fifth Angel's first album is still one of my all-time, top-5 favorite records. I won't deny that. The love for that record, for me, is up there with Mindcrime. I love Time Will Tell, but skip around a lot, including the ballads. It hasn't aged as well for me, but I still dig on Cathedral, Seven Hours, and We Rule quite a bit. I dig the record, just not quite at the uber level of the first one.

As for the new record, I have a huge bias. I've known these guys personally for almost 15 years now. With the exception of one guy (who is a close friend and unfortunately isn't on this project), I've backed away a bit, because I just want to enjoy the tunes for what they are. But if you have Kendall Bechtel, Ken Mary, and John Macko working on a project, I am pretty sure it will sound good. It really is a shame Ed isn't a part of it, because he was the main music writer in the band (those are 95 percent his riffs and arrangements on those first two Fifth Angel albums). Ed gave those records their sound. And I noted that they sidestepped talking about it in the press announcement. I am sure when they get closer to release, they'll do interviews and address it.

But with the high level of musicianship and songwriting of the three guys who wrote and recorded The Third Secret, I can't imagine it not being pretty good. Maybe not as brilliant as the self-titled first album, but I am sure they stripped away the poppier vibe of Time Will Tell. (Gut feeling, by choice I have not heard anything other than a couple of early demos that have since been re-worked.)

I'm just happy for John, Kendall, and Ken that they got their record deal and now will put something out. They've wanted to for a long time.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2018, 01:14:54 PM: I’ve just heard Ralph Santolla has passed away. Always enjoyed his Eyewitness album.

Edit. Might have been given fake news though he has had a heart attack and is in a coma. Doesn’t look good
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2018, 04:29:28 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 05, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
I’ve just heard Ralph Santolla has passed away. Always enjoyed his Eyewitness album.

Edit. Might have been given fake news though he has had a heart attack and is in a coma. Doesn’t look good

Meant to post this - with you in mind - the other day and forgot. Good news (relatively speaking) if he is still in fact in the coma .

We're probably 2 of the few with an original Now & Then copy of that Eyewitness album :lol

EDIT: Sadly it seems your original version is correct. R.I.P. Ralph :(

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/deicide-iced-earth-guitarist-ralph-santolla-coma-following-heart-attack
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2018, 05:08:50 PM: I'm off to see Mr Big and Extreme tonight - it's a sell out and both bands have a great live reputation so I expect to be impressed.
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Post by: TAC on June 05, 2018, 05:12:30 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 05, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
I’ve just heard Ralph Santolla has passed away. Always enjoyed his Eyewitness album.

Edit. Might have been given fake news though he has had a heart attack and is in a coma. Doesn’t look good

Yeah, I was going to say..I was reading the other day that he was in a coma.

Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2018, 05:08:50 PM
I'm off to see Mr Big and Extreme tonight - it's a sell out and both bands have a great live reputation so I expect to be impressed.

Enjoy!!
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Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2018, 05:24:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2018, 05:08:50 PM
I'm off to see Mr Big and Extreme tonight - it's a sell out and both bands have a great live reputation so I expect to be impressed.

Should be a great gig. Would love to see that bill. When Extreme did the Pornograffitti tour her a year or two back I was ill at the time and couldn’t go. Was gutted.
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Post by: TAC on June 05, 2018, 05:25:46 PM: Speaking of being ill Paul, how's your kidney stone?
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 05, 2018, 11:37:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2018, 05:08:50 PM
I'm off to see Mr Big and Extreme tonight - it's a sell out and both bands have a great live reputation so I expect to be impressed.

I've seen both multiple times and they always delivered. But then that was some years ago but I think they still can bring it.
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2018, 11:47:25 PM: Oh shit, Ralph was a great guitarist, RIP. :'(
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2018, 11:48:40 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2018, 05:08:50 PM
I'm off to see Mr Big and Extreme tonight - it's a sell out and both bands have a great live reputation so I expect to be impressed.

Playing on State of Origin night? They should have known better. :tup
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Post by: bl5150 on June 06, 2018, 12:02:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2018, 11:48:40 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2018, 05:08:50 PM
I'm off to see Mr Big and Extreme tonight - it's a sell out and both bands have a great live reputation so I expect to be impressed.

Playing on State of Origin night? They should have known better. :tup

Down here mate we can sell out both , even though for the most part we don't give a shit about rugby. We just go to stuff :lol

In the spirit of taking one for the team.........the new Tad Morose is bloody awful. I can't believe they have stuck with the current singer for 3 albums. :-\
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2018, 12:34:49 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 06, 2018, 12:02:36 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2018, 11:48:40 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2018, 05:08:50 PM
I'm off to see Mr Big and Extreme tonight - it's a sell out and both bands have a great live reputation so I expect to be impressed.

Playing on State of Origin night? They should have known better. :tup

Down here mate we can sell out both , even though for the most part we don't give a shit about rugby. We just go to stuff :lol

In the spirit of taking one for the team.........the new Tad Morose is bloody awful. I can't believe they have stuck with the current singer for 3 albums. :-\

It is a tad surprising that an 80000 seat stadium will fill out for a game based on QLD and NSW.

The Tad Morose I blindly purchased a few months ago was pretty ordinary, so definitely won't be checking that out Brent lol.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 06, 2018, 12:41:00 AM: If you want a quality Tad Morose album check out Modus Vivendi, Undead etc.......the ones from the early 2000's with Urban Breed on vox. The production is a bit muddy but songs like Take On The World kick some power metal ass. Even Sender of Thoughts from the mid 90's ...........one of my earlier power prog metal purchases so I have a soft spot for it.

The recent stuff is pretty rubbish.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 06, 2018, 04:02:40 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2018, 05:25:46 PM
Speaking of being ill Paul, how's your kidney stone?

You must be psychic Tim. I was admitted to hospital again last night. Going to be surgery this time. Just want it done with now. I'm getting well looked after. There has to be some perks to working in the NHS.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 06, 2018, 05:32:56 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 06, 2018, 12:02:36 AM
In the spirit of taking one for the team.........the new Tad Morose is bloody awful. I can't believe they have stuck with the current singer for 3 albums. :-\

Wish I'd seen this 10 minutes ago. I literally just clicked play on it (I'm 4 mins into track 1), and am definitely underwhelmed. The chances of me getting through too many more songs are slim
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Post by: Grappler on June 06, 2018, 06:33:20 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 05, 2018, 04:29:28 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 05, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
I’ve just heard Ralph Santolla has passed away. Always enjoyed his Eyewitness album.

Edit. Might have been given fake news though he has had a heart attack and is in a coma. Doesn’t look good

Meant to post this - with you in mind - the other day and forgot. Good news (relatively speaking) if he is still in fact in the coma .

We're probably 2 of the few with an original Now & Then copy of that Eyewitness album :lol

EDIT: Sadly it seems your original version is correct. R.I.P. Ralph :(

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/deicide-iced-earth-guitarist-ralph-santolla-coma-following-heart-attack

He's not dead yet....but will be taken off of life support today.

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34480498_10208964705314942_5578007660927647744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=6b89418a7074f3a186dee06349a92367&oe=5B7A311E)
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2018, 06:54:23 AM: That's just awful. :'(
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2018, 06:55:16 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 06, 2018, 12:41:00 AM
If you want a quality Tad Morose album check out Modus Vivendi, Undead etc.......the ones from the early 2000's with Urban Breed on vox. The production is a bit muddy but songs like Take On The World kick some power metal ass. Even Sender of Thoughts from the mid 90's ...........one of my earlier power prog metal purchases so I have a soft spot for it.

The recent stuff is pretty rubbish.

Hmm....Undead is the one I have. I only listened through it once so might have to give it another chance.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 06, 2018, 08:52:03 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 06, 2018, 05:32:56 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 06, 2018, 12:02:36 AM
In the spirit of taking one for the team.........the new Tad Morose is bloody awful. I can't believe they have stuck with the current singer for 3 albums. :-\

Wish I'd seen this 10 minutes ago. I literally just clicked play on it (I'm 4 mins into track 1), and am definitely underwhelmed. The chances of me getting through too many more songs are slim

The first few tracks are a cut above the rest too :lol

Quote from: wolfking on June 06, 2018, 06:55:16 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 06, 2018, 12:41:00 AM
If you want a quality Tad Morose album check out Modus Vivendi, Undead etc.......the ones from the early 2000's with Urban Breed on vox. The production is a bit muddy but songs like Take On The World kick some power metal ass. Even Sender of Thoughts from the mid 90's ...........one of my earlier power prog metal purchases so I have a soft spot for it.

The recent stuff is pretty rubbish.

Hmm....Undead is the one I have. I only listened through it once so might have to give it another chance.

I would give Modus Vivendi a go - probably their best by a fair margin.
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Post by: TAC on June 06, 2018, 06:24:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 06, 2018, 06:54:23 AM
That's just awful. :'(

Just 48. That is sickening.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 07, 2018, 10:55:43 AM: Just out of surgery and im https://youtu.be/J9MoDGE36rI
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 07, 2018, 11:00:23 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 07, 2018, 10:55:43 AM
Just out of surgery and im https://youtu.be/J9MoDGE36rI
:biggrin: Good thing you didn't lose your humor. Wish you a quick recovery.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 07, 2018, 11:07:53 AM: Cheers. Feel ok.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 07, 2018, 03:33:49 PM: https://www.hairbandheaven.rocks/single-post/2018/06/07/%E2%80%8BDREAM-CHILD-featuring-former-members-of-DIO-ACDC-and-QUIET-RIOT-to-release-Until-Death-Do-We-Meet-Again-Sept-14th

New one on Frontiers with Craig Goldy, singer from Helker, Simon Wright, Rudy Sarzo.
It might just be the pain pulls talki g but I enjoyed that. Worried about the mix but I'm listening on shitty headphones so can't judge from this video.

Just enough RJD in the vocals without going into impersonating mode. Wayne Finlayson from MSG on it too.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2018, 05:23:53 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 07, 2018, 10:55:43 AM
Just out of surgery and im https://youtu.be/J9MoDGE36rI

Good to hear. I thought that might've been Stone In Love with some nurses ;D

The Dream Child does sound a bit raw in the production department but not in a really bad way and the song , while not very original , has more effort/thought behind it than I expected.. I get what you say about the mix - the drums seem to come over the top of everything.
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2018, 05:39:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 07, 2018, 05:23:53 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 07, 2018, 10:55:43 AM
Just out of surgery and im https://youtu.be/J9MoDGE36rI

Good to hear. I thought that might've been Stone In Love with some nurses ;D

I thought it might have been Stone Cold...but I guess Stone Free is more appropriate.

Hope you're feeling better, Paul.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 07, 2018, 05:50:01 PM: Nice one ~~Shane~~ Brent. Made me laugh out loud. Not good when you have a catheter in either 😁
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 08, 2018, 06:02:15 AM: I've always thought of Diego Valdez (ex Helker singer) as the Chilean Ronnie James Dio.... though it turns out he's Argentinian. :lol

That song wasn't terrible. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2018, 06:52:27 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 07, 2018, 10:55:43 AM
Just out of surgery and im https://youtu.be/J9MoDGE36rI

:rollin Brilliant Paul. Good to hear.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 10, 2018, 08:31:40 AM: I gotta hand it to Geoff Tate - he has really worked hard to get his voice back up to scratch.

https://youtu.be/L5QGqWG5iZ0
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Post by: Lowdz on June 10, 2018, 11:32:24 AM: Sounded ok. Better than he was doing.
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Post by: TAC on June 10, 2018, 03:02:43 PM: So I didn't want to post this in the Tremonti thread, but I just gave this album a spin on Spotify. Well, half a spin anyway.

I have a few Alterbridge albums and they're OK. They seem solid enough, but for the most part, they are on the edge of what I like, and Myles Kennedy, while he seems to be real good, is also on my margins.

After reading through some posts in the Tremonti thread, and having never heard any of his solo band's work before, I decided to check it out.

There are a few good passages, but over all, I find it a total generic yawn fest. I was really hoping to be pleasently surprised but unfortunately, I could only make it halfway though.
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Post by: wolfking on June 10, 2018, 11:55:26 PM: I haven't checked the Tremonti yet and in no rush. I really liked his first solo album but the next couple just tended to keep rehashing the same formula at a lower quality. What I have heard from this new one seems much of the same so not expecting much and what you say Tim sounds pretty spot on what I would think.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2018, 11:10:23 PM: A quick belated review for the Mr Big/Extreme gig from last week. It was held in an old 1920's theatre in Melbourne called The Forum and you can see the sort of ambience it has from my crappy photos

(https://s33.postimg.cc/tye0atx5b/IMG_0968.jpg)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/unwsn809r/IMG_0977.jpg)

Mr Big opened up and were in good form start to finish. Paul Gilbert was his usual quirky self on stage and the crowd responded well. The highlights for me were the more rocking tunes like Addicted To That Rush. Gilbert's guitar solo was just okay and , to me at least , he seems to have lost a touch in terms of his playing. The lowlight was Billy Sheehan's bass solo. Great player but he has no clue on how to create a melodic/rhythmic/fun bass solo. It sounded like 5-10 minutes of thunder in the distance.

Extreme were up next and it was immediately apparent that the crowd was mostly there to see them. The atmosphere went through the roof when they came on and their performance was also up a notch on Mr Big in all departments. Both bands are similar in that they're fun to watch and have some groove in their songs but Extreme rocked harder , played better and had the crowd in the palm of their hand. Nuno is also a pretty funny dude and had the crowd in stitches on more than one occasion.

I was impressed with both bands but there was a clear winner. Setlists and some brief video snippets below. Given that it was a 3 hr + gig I chose to stand at the back and lean on a rail that doubled as a little bar rather than try and survive on the floor................yes I am well and truly a fogey. So the vids ain't great - not helped by having some 7ft giant in front of me on the level below.

Mr. Big

Daddy, Brother, Lover, Little Boy (The Electric Drill Song) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTjegKzxyHk&feature=youtu.be
Undertow
Alive and Kickin'
Just Take My Heart
Take Cover
(Dedicated to Pat Torpey)
Green Tinted Sixties Mind
Everybody Needs a Little Trouble
Price You Gotta Pay
Guitar Solo
(with snippets of Back in Black and The Whole World Is Gonna Know)
Open Your Eyes
Wild World
(Cat Stevens cover)
Rock & Roll Over
Around the World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U75voBxp_mY&feature=youtu.be (solo section)
Bass Solo
(Billy Sheehan)
Addicted to That Rush https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGEcFZVn4KI&feature=youtu.be
To Be With You
Colorado Bulldog

Extreme

It ('s a Monster)
Li'l Jack Horny
Get the Funk Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X77pU6AhqFs&feature=youtu.be (solo section)
Rest in Peace
Hip Today
Play with Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fEwxIN7jo&feature=youtu.be (solo section)
(featuring a Kevin and Nuno drum duet)
Tragic Comic
Hole Hearted
Midnight Express
("Wanted Dead or Alive" by JBJ - intro couple of bars)
Cupid's Dead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtKlDWAKVDQ&feature=youtu.be (solo section)
Take Us Alive
Am I Ever Gonna Change https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpMKrbM1VxE&feature=youtu.be
More Than Words
Flight of the Wounded Bumblebee
Decadence Dance
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 13, 2018, 12:18:39 AM: Cool to hear that you had fun. :metal

Billy's bass solos were shit from the beginning, just a bass-shred-fest that sounds like shit. I don't know why he is still playing a solo.

Mr. Big's set seems to be mostly songs from the first records, which is a good thing because the later ones are clearly not as good.

Quote
Given that it was a 3 hr + gig I chose to stand at the back and lean on a rail that doubled as a little bar rather than try and survive on the floor................yes I am well and truly a fogey.

I'm pretty sure my back wouldn't let me stand for three hours or more, even if I could lean on a rail. One of the reasons I rarely go to concerts these days.
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Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2018, 04:14:35 AM: Nice read there Brent. I'd be standing at the back leaning on a pole too. I actually really like enjoying my concerts like that, get a good view of the whole band with hopefully an even spread of sound, and hopefully normally a bit of room to breathe at times.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 13, 2018, 04:30:41 AM: And for the heavier bands, far away from the mosh pit. It was so fucking annoying seeing S-X and Evergrey, and having to defend myself from getting bashed by about 6-8 drunk asshats moshing around.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2018, 10:07:49 AM: Dynazty ain't exactly classic Hard Rock/Classic Metal, but this really has evolved to be the "DTF'rs with the best taste in music" thread anyway, so

Quote from: Facebook
NEW ALBUM DONE AND DELIVERED!

Our latest, and in our humble opinion, strongest effort yet has been completely finalized and delivered!
Preperations for a autumn 2018 release are well under way.

Get a sneek peak and enjoy the creativity, stupidity and awesome of the recordings by watching the video log from the studio in the link below!
More to come soon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgxeu8Wuz8
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Post by: Evermind on June 20, 2018, 10:20:06 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 13, 2018, 04:30:41 AM
And for the heavier bands, far away from the mosh pit. It was so fucking annoying seeing S-X and Evergrey, and having to defend myself from getting bashed by about 6-8 drunk asshats moshing around.

That kinda boggles my mind. I mean, the fact that people would do mosh pit for SX and Evergrey in US/Canada. Because I know they totally would in Russia, but I assumed audience in your country was better than that. I guess drunk guys are drunk guys regardless of where the gig takes place.

I saw Need/Evergrey in a small town in Germany (total of a hundred people in attendance maybe) in the second row last year, no sign of mosh pit at all.

Curious about Dynazty, their latest was pretty generic in my opinion.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2018, 11:21:30 AM: Quote from: Evermind on June 20, 2018, 10:20:06 AM
Curious about Dynazty, their latest was pretty generic in my opinion.

It wasn't a lot of diversity or growth over their debut, but was still highly enjoyable and fun as shit.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 20, 2018, 12:46:17 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 20, 2018, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: Evermind on June 20, 2018, 10:20:06 AM
Curious about Dynazty, their latest was pretty generic in my opinion.

It wasn't a lot of diversity or growth over their debut, but was still highly enjoyable and fun as shit.

Sultans Of Sin is still their best. Such a great album. Singer has a great voice.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 23, 2018, 02:01:18 AM: Don’t know if this has been shared on the DT side or not as I don’t get over there much outside of a n album cycle, but I’ll just leave this here...

https://youtu.be/U2DV87beT5c
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Post by: TAC on June 24, 2018, 08:05:21 PM: You must be trying to give us all a kidney stone.
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Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2018, 06:39:32 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 23, 2018, 02:01:18 AM
Don’t know if this has been shared on the DT side or not as I don’t get over there much outside of a n album cycle, but I’ll just leave this here...

https://youtu.be/U2DV87beT5c

y u do dis to us?
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 25, 2018, 07:45:54 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 23, 2018, 02:01:18 AM
Don’t know if this has been shared on the DT side or not as I don’t get over there much outside of a n album cycle, but I’ll just leave this here...

https://youtu.be/U2DV87beT5c

what kind of bullshit is this horseshit?
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Post by: Bolsters on June 25, 2018, 07:53:49 AM: Even I don't like that.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2018, 08:17:07 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 25, 2018, 07:45:54 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 23, 2018, 02:01:18 AM
Don’t know if this has been shared on the DT side or not as I don’t get over there much outside of a n album cycle, but I’ll just leave this here...

https://youtu.be/U2DV87beT5c

what kind of bullshit is this horseshit?

It's all kinds of shit :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on June 25, 2018, 08:59:29 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 24, 2018, 08:05:21 PM
You must be trying to give us all a kidney stone.

Just sharing the pain fellas 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 25, 2018, 04:21:29 PM: Anyone check out the new Lizzy Borden album? The reviews were fairly poor which surprised me because usually Lizzy has been consistent with putting out solid albums in the past.

But I checked out some songs on YouTube and the reviews are pretty spot on, it's sounding like a modern almost poppy sounding rockish album.

It's far removed from Love you to Pieces.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2018, 04:26:43 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 25, 2018, 04:21:29 PM
Anyone check out the new Lizzy Borden album? The reviews were fairly poor which surprised me because usually Lizzy has been consistent with putting out solid albums in the past.

But I checked out some songs on YouTube and the reviews are pretty spot on, it's sounding like a modern almost poppy sounding rockish album.

It's far removed from Love you to Pieces.

There are a few very positive reviews around but on the whole I agree it's been pretty negative. I thought the first couple of tracks were pretty good but after that I thought it was a bit of a mess - most songs had a good idea here and there but to me it sounded like a lot of unfinished ideas. If I had bothered to rate it the number probably would've had a 6 on the front of it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 25, 2018, 04:29:51 PM: I did check it out and it fucking blows.

How's that?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 25, 2018, 04:36:28 PM: End of discussion lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 25, 2018, 04:38:11 PM: Oh man, it was so bad.

I did bust out the Murderous Metal Road Show, which still is amazing.
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Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2018, 04:41:24 PM: That's a shame to hear. Lizzy is as j said usually pretty consistent, and Appointment with Death was a really strong album IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 25, 2018, 04:47:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 25, 2018, 04:41:24 PM
That's a shame to hear.

By all means, don't take my word for it. God knows I've been on the wrong side of albums reviews before.

But I thought it sucked. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2018, 04:56:23 PM: Does it suck or fucking blow ?- you've spent years educating us on your rating system and now it's confusing everyone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 25, 2018, 05:00:15 PM: Oh no, it fucking blows. I was just trying to not be too negative in multiple posts. :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 26, 2018, 07:40:43 PM: So, two headlines caught my attention on Bravewords today.

First:

KINGDOM COME To Celebrate Debut Album With 30th Anniversary Tour
https://bravewords.com/news/kingdom-come-to-celebrate-debut-album-with-30th-anniversary-tour

Wut? Do you mean the LANDMARK GROUND BREAKING INFLUENTIAL BREAK THE MOLD CLASSIC BEST SELLING TRIPLE FUCKING PLATINUM debut from Kingdome Come?

3 words...WHO FUCKING CARES!

The second one:

Drum Legend BRIAN TICHY Joins W.A.S.P. For European Festival Dates
https://bravewords.com/news/drum-legend-brian-tichy-joins-w-a-s-p-for-european-festival-dates

Wut?? DRUM LEGEND? Brian Tichy is a DRUM LEGEND now? Who the fuck is he? I think he did some stuff with Whitesnake, right? So he's some dude that plays drums for fucking has been 80's bands and that makes him a fucking DRUM LEGEND?? Seriously, I'm almost 50 and have been a music fan my entire life. I don't own, nor have I heard any album that Brian Tichy is on. Also, pretty sure I'm aware of who the music legends are are who is not.

Bonham? Legend
Moon? Legend
Peart? Legend
Portnoy? Hell, I'll give you that. Legend
Brian Fucking Tichy? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/aa9VQ6gg5wCBy/source.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 26, 2018, 08:07:20 PM: Tichy is a good drummer , popular hired gun/session guy but yeah - hardly legendary.

The worst thing about the Kingdom Come news (and I do think the debut KC is a good effort) is that the guy who IS/WAS Kingdom Come (Lenny Wolf) isn't in the band anymore. So yeah - even if you think they are legendary - who fucking cares if the main guy/signature voice isn't a part of it
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 26, 2018, 10:56:05 PM: The Kingdom Come debut is really good, but certainly not legendary, and yeah, without Lenny Wolf it doesn't make much sense.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2018, 05:27:39 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 26, 2018, 07:40:43 PM
So, two headlines caught my attention on Bravewords today.

First:

KINGDOM COME To Celebrate Debut Album With 30th Anniversary Tour
https://bravewords.com/news/kingdom-come-to-celebrate-debut-album-with-30th-anniversary-tour

Wut? Do you mean the LANDMARK GROUND BREAKING INFLUENTIAL BREAK THE MOLD CLASSIC BEST SELLING TRIPLE FUCKING PLATINUM debut from Kingdome Come?

3 words...WHO FUCKING CARES!

The second one:

Drum Legend BRIAN TICHY Joins W.A.S.P. For European Festival Dates
https://bravewords.com/news/drum-legend-brian-tichy-joins-w-a-s-p-for-european-festival-dates

Wut?? DRUM LEGEND? Brian Tichy is a DRUM LEGEND now? Who the fuck is he? I think he did some stuff with Whitesnake, right? So he's some dude that plays drums for fucking has been 80's bands and that makes him a fucking DRUM LEGEND?? Seriously, I'm almost 50 and have been a music fan my entire life. I don't own, nor have I heard any album that Brian Tichy is on. Also, pretty sure I'm aware of who the music legends are are who is not.

Bonham? Legend
Moon? Legend
Peart? Legend
Portnoy? Hell, I'll give you that. Legend
Brian Fucking Tichy? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/aa9VQ6gg5wCBy/source.gif)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/443852393718239234/d1ALaD5a.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 27, 2018, 07:37:43 AM: Tim is on a roll on this page. I like it, he should provide us with more music news updates!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on June 27, 2018, 09:10:28 AM: Weird last Kingdome Come news I heard Lenny was talking about wanting to get the original line-up back for a new album and a tour. I wonder what the fuck happend there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 28, 2018, 08:23:50 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 27, 2018, 07:37:43 AM
Tim is on a roll on this page. I like it, he should provide us with more music news updates!

OK here's one:
https://bravewords.com/news/def-leppard-announces-new-collaboration-with-luxury-sneaker-brand-six-hundred-four

WTF'nF?

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2018/5B354448-def-leppard-announces-new-collaboration-with-luxury-sneaker-brand-six-hundred-four-image.jpg)

What's next? Fucking Winger slippers??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 28, 2018, 08:28:33 PM: Wow, for only $1000 you can have all four pairs!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 28, 2018, 08:30:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 28, 2018, 08:23:50 PM
What's next? Fucking Winger slippers??

Which would likely only come in size 17.

Or womens.

Or women's size 17. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2018, 10:39:13 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 28, 2018, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 27, 2018, 07:37:43 AM
Tim is on a roll on this page. I like it, he should provide us with more music news updates!

OK here's one:
https://bravewords.com/news/def-leppard-announces-new-collaboration-with-luxury-sneaker-brand-six-hundred-four

WTF'nF?

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2018/5B354448-def-leppard-announces-new-collaboration-with-luxury-sneaker-brand-six-hundred-four-image.jpg)

What's next? Fucking Winger slippers??

That is a fucking joke. Fuck off!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 30, 2018, 08:35:14 AM: New Primal Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-bYmB-jkFk

Rather ordinary in my opinion. And fuck Frontiers - enough with using the same formula for videos. I'd rather they spent the money on something else - like we haven't seen a band playing in an abandoned warehouse/factor a hundred times already.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 30, 2018, 12:10:34 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 30, 2018, 08:35:14 AM
New Primal Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-bYmB-jkFk

Rather ordinary in my opinion. And fuck Frontiers - enough with using the same formula for videos. I'd rather they spent the money on something else - like we haven't seen a band playing in an abandoned warehouse/factor a hundred times already.

They probably set the cameras up and get all the bands to turn up on the same day.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 30, 2018, 12:41:20 PM: So Brent, you getting one of these Van Halen Eruption Guitar’s? The man played Eruption on each one 😀

https://www.hairbandheaven.rocks/single-post/2018/06/28/EDDIE-VAN-HALEN-Unveils-New-Eruption-Model-Guitars
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 01, 2018, 04:09:49 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 30, 2018, 12:41:20 PM
So Brent, you getting one of these Van Halen Eruption Guitar’s? The man played Eruption on each one 😀

https://www.hairbandheaven.rocks/single-post/2018/06/28/EDDIE-VAN-HALEN-Unveils-New-Eruption-Model-Guitars

Nah - not getting hugely excited over that . Just a bit of a cash grab - happy with the EVH one I already have in storage for Mr Ben ;) Couldn't afford one these days anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2018, 05:35:14 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 30, 2018, 08:35:14 AM
New Primal Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-bYmB-jkFk

Rather ordinary in my opinion. And fuck Frontiers - enough with using the same formula for videos. I'd rather they spent the money on something else - like we haven't seen a band playing in an abandoned warehouse/factor a hundred times already.

I thought that was pretty good (surprise, surprise). Reminded me of something mid tempo from their older stuff ala Nuclear Fire. The band is Magnus' now though, it's all his writing and guitars.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2018, 03:01:19 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 30, 2018, 08:35:14 AM
New Primal Fear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-bYmB-jkFk

Rather ordinary in my opinion. And fuck Frontiers - enough with using the same formula for videos. I'd rather they spent the money on something else - like we haven't seen a band playing in an abandoned warehouse/factor a hundred times already.

I thought it's a pretty good track, but yeah, it's somewhat ordinary. I doubt it will be a standout track on the new album though.

I do agree about the empty warehouse videos! Especially from Primal Fear, that seems to be a go to for them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 01, 2018, 04:06:57 PM: Once Winger slippers hit the shelves they won't have room in the warehouse for Primal Fear.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 01, 2018, 04:48:09 PM: They're great for the beach!

(https://ak0.scstatic.net/1/cdn2-cont3.sweetcouch.com/140793683313040212-winger-black-flipflop-man-slipper.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2018, 09:01:19 PM: Was listening to Twisted Sisters album You Can't Stop Rock n Roll. I think that album is easily their best album by far.

I'm curious what Dee Sniders new album will sound like. Would have been cool to just have the TS guys play on it and just make it a Twisted Sister album. Probably would have sold much better with the TS name attached to it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 01, 2018, 09:04:54 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2018, 09:01:19 PM
Was listening to Twisted Sisters album You Can't Stop Rock n Roll. I think that album is easily their best album by far.

I'm curious what Dee Sniders new album will sound like. Would have been cool to just have the TS guys play on it and just make it a Twisted Sister album. Probably would have sold much better with the TS name attached to it.

The sound of the track I heard from his upcoming "metal" album was very promising BUT (from someone who normally takes zero notice of lyrics) the lyrics were that bad that they ruined the song for me . And if your lyrics are so hopelessly incompetent , my advice is not to bring out a lyric video ::)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2018, 06:07:32 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2018, 09:01:19 PM
Was listening to Twisted Sisters album You Can't Stop Rock n Roll. I think that album is easily their best album by far.

It's a great album. Listened to a lot of it last week while making a 1983 playlist on Spotify.

The title track uses the Running Wild/Wicker man riff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2018, 04:47:06 AM: New UDO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xksm1X7UHM

This is pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2018, 09:19:05 PM: really cool song

I guess the abandoned factory was booked by Primal Fear, so UDO had to use the abandoned house.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on July 09, 2018, 08:41:35 AM: Dee Snider - Become The Storm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hljBz0zTEKQ

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal This song is slamming and Dee sounds so awesome! I wasn't too big on the first single, but this one is a killer song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 09, 2018, 11:41:33 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 08, 2018, 04:47:06 AM
New UDO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xksm1X7UHM

This is pretty damn good.

It’s not converting me to a UDO fan, though the song is good. I’d prefer it if he did away with the drunken crooning and just do the screechy vocal instead.

The Dee Snyder is pretty good though. Video is the same old shit in a warehouse with a swinging lightbulb or two.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 09, 2018, 03:16:18 PM: Quote from: Grappler on July 09, 2018, 08:41:35 AM
Dee Snider - Become The Storm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hljBz0zTEKQ

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal This song is slamming and Dee sounds so awesome! I wasn't too big on the first single, but this one is a killer song.

Awesome tune!!! Might have to seriously consider a purchase here. That was amazing.

Quote from: wolfking on July 08, 2018, 04:47:06 AM
New UDO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xksm1X7UHM

This is pretty damn good.

It's excellent. But I have just never been able to get excited about UDO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2018, 06:25:56 PM: That Dee song is excellent!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2018, 05:36:20 AM: Quote from: Grappler on July 09, 2018, 08:41:35 AM
Dee Snider - Become The Storm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hljBz0zTEKQ

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal This song is slamming and Dee sounds so awesome! I wasn't too big on the first single, but this one is a killer song.

I really know next to nothing on Dee and his work, but that was very good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2018, 07:47:48 PM: Did you guys see this?
https://bravewords.com/news/dream-child-featuring-former-dio-msg-ac-dc-quiet-riot-members-release-under-the-wire-music-video

Under The Wire :metal

Holy Dio, Batman!
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Post by: bl5150 on July 11, 2018, 08:01:11 PM: Yeah - the guy from Helker on vocals.

Certainly sounds a lot more like Dio music than Last In Line (band)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2018, 08:05:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 11, 2018, 08:01:11 PM
Yeah - the guy from Helker on vocals.

Oh is it?

I think I dropped the needle in a couple of spots on their last album. I may have to revisit it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2018, 09:12:42 PM: Not a bad lineup. Will check that out when I get home.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 12, 2018, 05:34:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 11, 2018, 09:12:42 PM
Not a bad lineup. Will check that out when I get home.

The verse is Last in Line but faster.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 13, 2018, 07:57:10 PM: Saxon! :metal

So I decided to listen to Thunderbolt the other day. Upon its release, my first impressions were that, of their more recent releases, I consider it the weakest.

After many years of not paying attention, I did a blind buy of Lionheart, and ever since then, Saxon has had a great run of albums ever since.

Anyway, Thunderbolt did not really make any gains on my most recent listen. Perhaps it's been the amazing albums they've released recently, but this album is simply not up to snuff, in my eyes. I think Judas Priest's Firepower wipes the floor with Thunderbolt.

I rank the last 7 Saxon albums like this:

Sacrifice
Battering Ram
Call To Arms
The Inner Sanctum
Lionheart
Into The Labyrinth
Thunderbolt
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 14, 2018, 09:46:45 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 12, 2018, 05:34:34 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 11, 2018, 09:12:42 PM
Not a bad lineup. Will check that out when I get home.

The verse is Last in Line but faster.

I like it though it reminds me of a Dynazty song off Sultans of Sin.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 15, 2018, 04:52:13 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2018, 07:57:10 PM
Saxon! :metal

So I decided to listen to Thunderbolt the other day. Upon its release, my first impressions were that, of their more recent releases, I consider it the weakest.

After many years of not paying attention, I did a blind buy of Lionheart, and ever since then, Saxon has had a great run of albums ever since.

Anyway, Thunderbolt did not really make any gains on my most recent listen. Perhaps it's been the amazing albums they've released recently, but this album is simply not up to snuff, in my eyes. I think Judas Priest's Firepower wipes the floor with Thunderbolt.

I rank the last 7 Saxon albums like this:

Sacrifice
Battering Ram
Call To Arms
The Inner Sanctum
Lionheart
Into The Labyrinth
Thunderbolt

Call to Arms is probably the weakest out of all of those for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 15, 2018, 08:28:47 AM: Call to Arms is still an excellent album.

Hammer of the Gods and Afterburner are major ass kickers.

Saxon is just a band that really can do no wrong no matter what. If I had to pick a weakest album, it would be tough to pick one. Maybe Rock the Nations or the debut, but they are still good ones.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 15, 2018, 04:52:26 PM: Brent, Kade...you guys see this?
https://bravewords.com/news/bruce-dickinson-announces-2018-australian-speaking-tour

October
18 - Enmore Theatre - Sydney (All Ages)
19 - Palais Theatre - Melbourne (All Ages)
21 - Llewellyn Hall - ANU Canberra (All Ages)
23 - Civic Theatre - Newcastle (All Ages)
24 - Eatons Hill Hotel - Brisbane (All Ages)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 15, 2018, 11:36:03 PM: I saw Bruce Dickinson and nearly shat myself, then I saw it was a speaking tour. Looks mighty interesting still though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 15, 2018, 11:46:00 PM: I like the mentioning that it's for all ages, so he's probably not going to say fuck a lot. :lol

If he came somewhere near me I would probably go, I thoroughly enjoyed his autobiography.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 16, 2018, 04:44:23 AM: No really my thing Tim. I have seen some footage of his speaking tour and it seems to be mostly a bit of (iffy) stand up comedy while he reads passages from his book. I'm just a casual Maiden fan so will likely pass.

There hasn't been much going on for a while and suddenly we have tours everywhere. We have Primal Fear/Sinner, Stryper , Scorps/Def Leppard and an Aussie metal fest thing (only $35) with bands like Damnations Day/Lord/Vanishing Point on the one bill in coming months -and I'm sure I forgot a couple. I certainly won't make it to them all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2018, 05:26:49 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 16, 2018, 04:44:23 AM
No really my thing Tim. I have seen some footage of his speaking tour and it seems to be mostly a bit of (iffy) stand up comedy while he reads passages from his book. I'm just a casual Maiden fan so will likely pass.

There hasn't been much going on for a while and suddenly we have tours everywhere. We have Primal Fear/Sinner, Stryper , Scorps/Def Leppard and an Aussie metal fest thing (only $35) with bands like Damnations Day/Lord/Vanishing Point on the one bill in coming months -and I'm sure I forgot a couple. I certainly won't make it to them all.

Didn't know Stryper were coming, and doing a show in Brisbane. Not sure if I could handle Michael Sweet throwing bibles at me. Fucking $86 too!!! WTF?!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on July 16, 2018, 02:16:52 PM: Not sure what your complaining about?
$86 for a quite well known international act is on the cheap side in 2018.
I really doubt if the band/promoter are making much if anything on the tour, given the size of venue's and the high cost of everything in Australia.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on July 16, 2018, 02:26:27 PM: On a memorabilia thread, I'll be hanging a couple of cool Fates Warning gig posters in my den this week (need to tear down everything on the wall and re-do). I'll post up pics if anyone wants to check it out. If not, then carry on. :)

p.s. 86 bucks for Stryper is insane. Australia or not, that's a lot of money. Then again, not sure how much they have (or will in the future) make it there. I paid 35 bucks total for an upcoming show in November here in the states. To more than double the price for the same show? That's a bit pricey. I could understand 50, 60, given everything like travel and exchange rate and such. But 86 bucks? I'd need to seriously hear why the promoter is justified that cost first. If there are circumstances, or if if a chunk goes to charity, then fine. But if that's just the going rate, and it is strictly due to Stryper's fee, that is a bit much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 16, 2018, 04:41:43 PM: Sure Brian..............it's always cool to have a poster post their posters ;D I went crazy posting shirts and mags years ago until everyone was sick of it , but I for one love talking/seeing memorabilia.

PS .....if you can get through the constant DTF server errors :-\
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2018, 05:13:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 16, 2018, 04:41:43 PM
Sure Brian..............it's always cool to have a poster post their posters ;D I went crazy posting shirts and mags years ago until everyone was sick of it , but I for one love talking/seeing memorabilia.

Who was sick of it? Not me! I love seeing that stuff.

Its been a while since I posted a classic tour program. Will have to rectify that.

Brian, post away, brother!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 16, 2018, 07:20:05 PM: yeah I'm not sick of it at all. I would love to see more Brent!! And it will be cool to see Brian's posters for sure!

But I am sick of the DTF service errors too lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on July 16, 2018, 11:34:42 PM: Quote from: Samsara on July 16, 2018, 02:26:27 PM
On a memorabilia thread, I'll be hanging a couple of cool Fates Warning gig posters in my den this week (need to tear down everything on the wall and re-do). I'll post up pics if anyone wants to check it out. If not, then carry on. :)

p.s. 86 bucks for Stryper is insane. Australia or not, that's a lot of money. Then again, not sure how much they have (or will in the future) make it there. I paid 35 bucks total for an upcoming show in November here in the states. To more than double the price for the same show? That's a bit pricey. I could understand 50, 60, given everything like travel and exchange rate and such. But 86 bucks? I'd need to seriously hear why the promoter is justified that cost first. If there are circumstances, or if if a chunk goes to charity, then fine. But if that's just the going rate, and it is strictly due to Stryper's fee, that is a bit much.

Works out to be around $63 US$, and for a country as expensive as Australia is, which is a lot more than the USA, I think it'a cheap.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 16, 2018, 11:42:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 16, 2018, 04:41:43 PM
Sure Brian..............it's always cool to have a poster post their posters ;D I went crazy posting shirts and mags years ago until everyone was sick of it , but I for one love talking/seeing memorabilia.

No, as others said, we weren't sick of it, you just stopped posting that stuff. Everybody bring it on. I would do so myself, but I don't have memorabilia that are worth showing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 16, 2018, 11:58:34 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on July 16, 2018, 11:42:25 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 16, 2018, 04:41:43 PM
Sure Brian..............it's always cool to have a poster post their posters ;D I went crazy posting shirts and mags years ago until everyone was sick of it , but I for one love talking/seeing memorabilia.

No, as others said, we weren't sick of it, you just stopped posting that stuff. Everybody bring it on. I would do so myself, but I don't have memorabilia that are worth showing.

When I said "until everyone was sick of it" I was being flippant and more referring to the fact that I posted so much stuff that eventually it was generating zero discussion and so I stopped. I probably got through most of it anyway :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 17, 2018, 02:24:06 AM: Over the weekend I listened to some records I haven't put on in a long time and got a serious case of nostalgia.

Does anybody know/remember a band called Company Of Wolves?

They released a self-titled record late in the 80s. They weren't really hair-metal, more in the style of maybe Tesla or Thunder. I got to know them due to the song "Call Of The Wild" getting some rotation on music tv back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKyc0OjzYxg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKyc0OjzYxg)

I really like this record, all quality songs imo. Sadly they didn't really took off. There's only the self-titled record, then another one from the late 90s, which is good but can't reach the debut and a collection of demos and unreleased songs, which I haven't heard and is kinda hard to get.

So anyway, I have them back on heavy rotation for now. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 17, 2018, 03:52:51 AM: I do remember them H and have the album somewhere ............will revisit. I can't say that I remember a great deal about it as I haven't listened to it in 25 years or something.

I looked into the demos for you and you can get them on Cd Baby for 10 bucks

https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/cowolves1
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 17, 2018, 05:32:56 AM: Thanks, apparently it isn't as hard to find as I thought. Last time I looked, some years ago, you could get only used cds for horrendous prices.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on July 17, 2018, 08:30:33 AM: Cool on the gig posters. I'll post them as soon as they are on the wall. What I did was take the images online from the two So Cal Fates gigs I went to in January, along with the full US tour gig poster, developed them as big as I could get without pixalating, and had the band sign them all. They came out really well. Mike Abdow and Ray Alder really dug them when they signed them. It should look pretty bad ass when hung as a group on the wall. Made some progress in my den last night (re-arranged all my music collection, and got all the electronics sorted, as it is also the game room). Next step is taking all current stuff off the walls down, and then decluttering and putting what makes sense (including the Fates posters) up.

Busy this evening, but I think I should have it done by Friday. If not, it'll be done this weekend. My issue, of course, is space, as my den is simply the size of a bedroom. So it can get cluttered quickly (and I haven't even tackled my wife's stuff yet -- some cool signed Megadeth stuff, etc.)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2018, 04:42:33 AM: Have you checked out the Destinia yet Brent?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 18, 2018, 04:51:23 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 18, 2018, 04:42:33 AM
Have you checked out the Destinia yet Brent?

Yeah - unfortunately I found it a bit like the prior release. A couple of strong songs , a few decent ones and plenty of filler.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2018, 05:00:47 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 18, 2018, 04:51:23 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 18, 2018, 04:42:33 AM
Have you checked out the Destinia yet Brent?

Yeah - unfortunately I found it a bit like the prior release. A couple of strong songs , a few decent ones and plenty of filler.

Sweet. I won't bother. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 18, 2018, 05:43:38 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on July 17, 2018, 05:32:56 AM
Thanks, apparently it isn't as hard to find as I thought. Last time I looked, some years ago, you could get only used cds for horrendous prices.

No worries.

I am having a listen to the debut now - yet another quality early 90's album that vanished into the ether as the flannelette brigade took over . An enjoyable listen and a good one for fans of melodic southern rock a la 38 Special. The lead guitarist is above average too (a bit of fire in his playing) which elevates it a bit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 18, 2018, 10:39:48 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 18, 2018, 05:00:47 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 18, 2018, 04:51:23 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 18, 2018, 04:42:33 AM
Have you checked out the Destinia yet Brent?

Yeah - unfortunately I found it a bit like the prior release. A couple of strong songs , a few decent ones and plenty of filler.

Sweet. I won't bother. :lol

You very nearly got it in the last round of your roulette, had I not found the Nordheim at the right time 😀

I liked it but it’s pretty much as Brent said. It usually is 😀🤘
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 18, 2018, 11:49:52 PM: Kamelot touring Oz now too Kade - we are popular !
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2018, 12:43:57 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 18, 2018, 11:49:52 PM
Kamelot touring Oz now too Kade - we are popular !

Just had a look, coming to Brisbane too. Cheaper than Stryper. Dont see me going, although i did like the most recent album.

If Khan was singing it would be a different story.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2018, 12:28:43 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 19, 2018, 12:43:57 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 18, 2018, 11:49:52 PM
Kamelot touring Oz now too Kade - we are popular !

Just had a look, coming to Brisbane too. Cheaper than Stryper. Dont see me going, although i did like the most recent album.

If Khan was singing it would be a different story.

Tommy is a really good live frontman.

Though, I skipped the tour when the came around a few months ago. Wasn't a very convenient date or location for me, so I bailed. Wasn't too fussed with The Shadow Theory either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2018, 03:53:15 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/mob-rules-reveal-beast-reborn-album-details-release-shows-scheduled-promo-video

Did I miss this posted somewhere?

Released last week - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amq3C5-IcNA

Not bad at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 19, 2018, 03:56:08 PM: Yeah, I saw the headline. I've been busy myself and never went back to check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 19, 2018, 04:43:13 PM: T Mac has just announced a gig in Manchester in November. I will be there. Shame it doesn’t look like Vinnie Moore will be with him.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2018, 04:42:48 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 19, 2018, 03:53:15 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/mob-rules-reveal-beast-reborn-album-details-release-shows-scheduled-promo-video

Did I miss this posted somewhere?

Released last week - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amq3C5-IcNA

Not bad at all.

Meh, it's alright, nothing new obviously.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2018, 04:57:45 PM: I don't know if I missed something earlier but I just got an email for a new project from Sean Peck, Tim Owens, and Harry Conklin and they have taken it upon themselves to steal the 'Three Tremors' title for their own release.

https://thethreetremors.com/site/index.html

Probably will be your normal generic metal, but could be worth a shot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 20, 2018, 05:16:56 PM: This actually looks really cool
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 20, 2018, 08:40:31 PM: I'm assuming that Halford, Dickinson and Tate didnt trademark that name. It's too bad they couldn't get on the same page and actually make that work.

I kind of thought Ripper would have done this kind of a project with Blaze and Tate. Maybe they tried and couldn't make it work.

Regardless I'll definitely check this out
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 20, 2018, 08:41:45 PM: Sean Peck has some pipes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on July 21, 2018, 05:23:46 AM: Wow. Those three guys are awesome. I'm definitely interested in this project!

Ripper made a crack of not working with Tate again after their tour, so I'm not surprised to see him do this with other singers. He picked two killer singers to work with!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 21, 2018, 06:51:24 AM: I know others disagree but awesome vocalist that Ripper is, he has never sang on anything I’ve liked. Best might be the Iced Earth stuff.

Hope there’s a decent songwriter involved.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 21, 2018, 07:12:19 AM: Hopefully the album cover isn't the coolest thing about this project. The album cover is awesome however.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 21, 2018, 07:30:01 PM: Quote from: Frontiers FB
Nordic Union. "Second Coming". Out November 9, 2018 on CD/LP/Digital. More details, including tracklisting, and the first song from the album will be released in the coming weeks!

For those who don't know, Nordic Union is the collaboration between Erik Martensson of Eclipse (Sweden) (and W.E.T.) and Ronnie Atkins Official of Pretty Maids. This will be their second album. You can hear their first album on all streaming services.

(https://scontent.fyto1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37310261_1830067520382624_8499036200500199424_n.jpg?_nc_fx=fyto1-1&_nc_cat=0&oh=a867fbe0b9c79f7a1cae1f8621ce294f&oe=5BC69C0A)

I liked the first one. Nothing ground breaking, but highly enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2018, 03:38:58 AM: I liked the first one too, but the way Martensson has been going, I don't have any hopes for this at all. Ronnie will be the saving grace.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 22, 2018, 10:39:20 AM: Chalk another one up for liking the first ne.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2018, 02:52:15 PM: New Manimal! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbQVFysd-w

Shit, I didn't realize they had an album coming out this year. :2metal:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 22, 2018, 02:58:04 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 22, 2018, 02:52:15 PM
New Manimal! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbQVFysd-w

Shit, I didn't realize they had an album coming out this year. :2metal:

That is saweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 22, 2018, 03:29:13 PM: great tune!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 22, 2018, 03:39:23 PM: I like that.
I like the new Impelliteri too

https://youtu.be/do3Z4TxrYpA
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 22, 2018, 03:54:42 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 22, 2018, 03:39:23 PM
I like that.
I like the new Impelliteri too

https://youtu.be/do3Z4TxrYpA

I read awhile ago that Rob mentioned the new album was in the can but this is the first I've heard the new song and album title.

This is major kick ass and the album cover is very cool!! A definite purchase from me
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 22, 2018, 05:05:45 PM: I bought the last Impelliteri and listened to exactly once. I have a feeling this would be the same.

On the side scroll apparently Uriah Heep has a new song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHgDPxLlFW4

I like it a lot. I've bought their last handful of albums and find them all very enjoyable. Bernie Shaw still sounds fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 23, 2018, 06:52:23 PM: Cruisin' youtube tonight and I found this 1985 footage of Flotsam & Jetsam...with Jason.
WOW!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N_VgD8hfYo
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 24, 2018, 12:51:22 AM: For those of you with some spare cash too throw around. Back in the day when my financial circumstances were very different I would've got amongst it , but I'll have to leave it up to you guys to buy up big for the team. ;)

https://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2018/ronnie-dio/index.html
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 24, 2018, 01:06:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 22, 2018, 05:05:45 PM
I bought the last Impelliteri and listened to exactly once. I have a feeling this would be the same.

On the side scroll apparently Uriah Heep has a new song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHgDPxLlFW4

I like it a lot. I've bought their last handful of albums and find them all very enjoyable. Bernie Shaw still sounds fantastic.

I’ve heard about 2 Heep songs ever but I l8ked that track. Will have to check out the last couple
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2018, 10:29:42 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 22, 2018, 02:52:15 PM
New Manimal! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbQVFysd-w

Shit, I didn't realize they had an album coming out this year. :2metal:

I thought that was just okay. Quality sound but didn't blow me away at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on July 27, 2018, 09:31:20 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/manilla-roads-mark-the-shark-shelton-dead-at-60/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/manilla-roads-mark-the-shark-shelton-dead-at-60/)

Although I haven't been able to get into them too much I do like a couple songs. I know a lot of people considered Manilla Road a hidden gem in the genre. RIP
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 27, 2018, 04:23:34 PM: Lost in the DTF hoopla of the new Redemption and Michael Romeo's new albums, which seem pretty good on first sampling, is the new Dee Snider album, which is all kinds of :metal :metal

Seriously, this album kicks ass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 27, 2018, 04:42:24 PM: I'm liking the sounds of the new Dee album with each new song that came out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 27, 2018, 04:44:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 27, 2018, 04:23:34 PM
Lost in the DTF hoopla of the new Redemption and Michael Romeo's new albums, which seem pretty good on first sampling, is the new Dee Snider album, which is all kinds of :metal :metal

Seriously, this album kicks ass.

Alright then... I guess I know what I'm spinning tomorrow morning.

Welcome back to real music, Tim.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 27, 2018, 04:52:02 PM: I definitely TACcomend it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 27, 2018, 04:57:12 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on July 27, 2018, 09:31:20 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/manilla-roads-mark-the-shark-shelton-dead-at-60/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/manilla-roads-mark-the-shark-shelton-dead-at-60/)

Although I haven't been able to get into them too much I do like a couple songs. I know a lot of people considered Manilla Road a hidden gem in the genre. RIP

That's terrible. He seemed like a true lifer.

But, I literally have never heard of them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 28, 2018, 08:46:21 PM: "We are all fucking metal!" :metal

Love the new Dee!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2018, 04:29:15 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 27, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 27, 2018, 04:23:34 PM
Lost in the DTF hoopla of the new Redemption and Michael Romeo's new albums, which seem pretty good on first sampling, is the new Dee Snider album, which is all kinds of :metal :metal

Seriously, this album kicks ass.

Alright then... I guess I know what I'm spinning tomorrow morning.

Welcome back to real music, Tim.

*Secretly hoping the Dee Snider is filled with growls................* ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on July 29, 2018, 10:15:05 AM: The Dee Snider disc is amazing. I wasn't sure what to expect, but every song is just full of awesome riffs and HEAVY. He sounds amazing on the record too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 29, 2018, 10:18:35 AM: Yeah, it's really heavy. Testament-lite.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2018, 11:40:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 29, 2018, 10:18:35 AM
Yeah, it's really heavy. Testament-lite.

Wow. I know nothing from Dee or Twisted Sister but might have to check this out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 30, 2018, 11:18:04 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 29, 2018, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 29, 2018, 10:18:35 AM
Yeah, it's really heavy. Testament-lite.

Wow. I know nothing from Dee or Twisted Sister but might have to check this out.

Bugger. I should have sent something from the Widowmaker album in your roulette. Blood and Bullets is th3 best album with Dee on it. I’m not much of a TS fan.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2018, 05:33:10 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 30, 2018, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 29, 2018, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 29, 2018, 10:18:35 AM
Yeah, it's really heavy. Testament-lite.

Wow. I know nothing from Dee or Twisted Sister but might have to check this out.

Bugger. I should have sent something from the Widowmaker album in your roulette. Blood and Bullets is th3 best album with Dee on it. I’m not much of a TS fan.

Jesus, I see it features Pitrelli also, yeah good chance that would have gone down well. I'll add it to the list mate, thanks. Name sounds familiar, maybe Brent's played it before.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2018, 05:36:09 AM: Current wolfking roulette listening; Arida Vortex - The Illustrated Man. Only halfway through but this is really quite good. Don't know what the fuck it's about though.

Hade a listen to Andy James - Exodus too. He's a great shredder, but really pretty one dimensional in his style. Some really nice tunes on this, but most are quite samey and feel almost improvised. Nice sound and great shred though, top player.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 01, 2018, 07:19:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 01, 2018, 05:33:10 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 30, 2018, 11:18:04 AM

Bugger. I should have sent something from the Widowmaker album in your roulette. Blood and Bullets is th3 best album with Dee on it. I’m not much of a TS fan.

Jesus, I see it features Pitrelli also, yeah good chance that would have gone down well. I'll add it to the list mate, thanks. Name sounds familiar, maybe Brent's played it before.

Yup - was in one of the "Hard Rock/Metal Rarities" podcasts . Not sure I covered every letter in the alphabet but W was done at some point.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2018, 11:03:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 01, 2018, 07:19:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 01, 2018, 05:33:10 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 30, 2018, 11:18:04 AM

Bugger. I should have sent something from the Widowmaker album in your roulette. Blood and Bullets is th3 best album with Dee on it. I’m not much of a TS fan.

Jesus, I see it features Pitrelli also, yeah good chance that would have gone down well. I'll add it to the list mate, thanks. Name sounds familiar, maybe Brent's played it before.

Yup - was in one of the "Hard Rock/Metal Rarities" podcasts . Not sure I covered every letter in the alphabet but W was done at some point.

See, I listen! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on August 03, 2018, 08:38:42 AM: To follow up on the memorabilia post I made, my stuff is all up and done. But my wife's portion of our den (where all of this stuff is) is yet to be done. And since she has the same love of hard rock and metal we all do, she's accumulated some killer stuff over the years. So I am re-doing all of her stuff as well, and will post some pics of it all once it is completed. She's got some signed Megadeth stuff, a killer signed Pushead Empire patch and LP single from Queensryche, and some other really cool goodies. For those that dig Firewind, she took this killer shot of Gus during Firewind's last tour with their classic era singer, Apollo.

Anyway, I'm re-doing the entire den, so once done, I'll post a couple of pics.
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Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2018, 03:11:58 PM: New Primal Fear;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdnffd6nyls

Pretty good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 04, 2018, 09:29:24 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 03, 2018, 03:11:58 PM
New Primal Fear;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdnffd6nyls

Pretty good.

:metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2018, 04:49:48 AM: Some more roulette listening in the form of Leather Heart - Comeback. This is a really enjoyable album. Liking it a lot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 05, 2018, 05:57:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 05, 2018, 04:49:48 AM
Some more roulette listening in the form of Leather Heart - Comeback. This is a really enjoyable album. Liking it a lot.

(https://replygif.net/i/1540.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 05, 2018, 08:57:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 05, 2018, 04:49:48 AM
Some more roulette listening in the form of Leather Heart - Comeback. This is a really enjoyable album. Liking it a lot.

Was very annoyed when someone used that. Hurt to cross it off my list.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2018, 09:57:41 PM: Isn't as heavy as I thought it would be after first impressions with The Crow but that's not a negative at all. Excellent from start to finish and the Danger Zone cover is awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on August 06, 2018, 09:52:26 AM: :metal Great album!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2018, 11:59:14 PM: Had a listen to Firepower again this week in the car and I initially thought Rising and Surrender were the best tracks but I now agree with Tim. Listening again, Traitors Gate is by far the best song on the album.
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Post by: TAC on August 11, 2018, 09:15:49 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2018, 11:59:14 PM
Had a listen to Firepower again this week in the car and I initially thought Rising and Surrender were the best tracks but I now agree with Tim. Listening again, Traitors Gate is by far the best song on the album.

:metal :metal :metal

That song rocks, man. I actually listened to Firepower a couple of weeks ago, and holy shit, this album stands up. I still feel the same way about that chorus.

Out Of The Dark
Into The Light

That whole part is :2metal:

It's easily a Top 5 album of the year for me, maybe Top 3. This is an impressive album. So heavy.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 11, 2018, 02:37:20 PM: It's album of the year for me at this point. I'll see how the new Primal Fear and Fifth Angel sound, but it will be pretty tough to take the top ranking away from it.

I think its easily the best Priest album since Painkiller and definitely top tier overall. If thats the final album for the band, you can't get much better than that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2018, 03:42:30 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 11, 2018, 09:15:49 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2018, 11:59:14 PM
Had a listen to Firepower again this week in the car and I initially thought Rising and Surrender were the best tracks but I now agree with Tim. Listening again, Traitors Gate is by far the best song on the album.

:metal :metal :metal

That song rocks, man. I actually listened to Firepower a couple of weeks ago, and holy shit, this album stands up. I still feel the same way about that chorus.

Out Of The Dark
Into The Light

That whole part is :2metal:

It's easily a Top 5 album of the year for me, maybe Top 3. This is an impressive album. So heavy.

Yeah, I was surprised how fucking epic it is and confused why I didn't have that opinion on it initially.

Quote from: jjrock88 on August 11, 2018, 02:37:20 PM
It's album of the year for me at this point. I'll see how the new Primal Fear and Fifth Angel sound, but it will be pretty tough to take the top ranking away from it.

I think its easily the best Priest album since Painkiller and definitely top tier overall. If thats the final album for the band, you can't get much better than that.

It's holding up surprisngly well. The 1-2 punch of Firepower and Lightning Strikes is one of the coolest starts to an album they have done.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 12, 2018, 05:02:18 AM: Guess I need another listen of it then. I spun it a few times when it was released, and liked it plenty, but haven't gone back to it. Time to drop the needle... click the Spotify, actually.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:22:32 PM: Today is it hotter in Winnipeg or Australia? In Winnipeg it's 39 Celsius or 102.2 Fahrenheit
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:30:59 PM: Hopefully we can beat somewhere in Australia at least once a year lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2018, 04:33:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:22:32 PM
Today is it hotter in Winnipeg or Australia? In Winnipeg it's 39 Celsius or 102.2 Fahrenheit

Currenltly winter over here bro, so you got us covered today. 39 degrees sucks though doesn't matter where you are. The world is getting hotter every year and it's getting pretty concerning truthfully.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:38:49 PM: That's very true and it is concerning. Unfortunately when you have to deal with minus 40 Celsius in the winter, you are hard pressed to complain about heat lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:40:15 PM: Has anyone heard the new Primal Fear in its entirety?

I've ordered it, but it won't get here for a few more days. The reviews sound very good
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2018, 05:17:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
Has anyone heard the new Primal Fear in its entirety?

I've ordered it, but it won't get here for a few more days. The reviews sound very good

With a public holiday today, I'm going on a hunt this afternoon to see if I can find a copy instore. The songs so far have been okay but I'm hoping there is more quality within the album. Surely Brent has checked it out?
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 05:23:35 PM: Brent has already checked out the next Primal Fear album after Apocalypse
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Post by: Lowdz on August 13, 2018, 01:35:35 AM: :metal :lol

Not heard it yet but I’m on leave and have decorating to do so it will get an airing today.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2018, 04:49:23 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 05:23:35 PM
Brent has already checked out the next Primal Fear album after Apocalypse

This is one of the funniest things I've ever read.

I couldn't find a copy this afternoon. :'(
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Post by: Samsara on August 13, 2018, 09:17:09 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
Has anyone heard the new Primal Fear in its entirety?

I've ordered it, but it won't get here for a few more days. The reviews sound very good

I have a download waiting for me. WIll go grab it and fire it up...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2018, 09:24:18 AM: Quote from: Samsara on August 13, 2018, 09:17:09 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
Has anyone heard the new Primal Fear in its entirety?

I've ordered it, but it won't get here for a few more days. The reviews sound very good

I have a download waiting for me. WIll go grab it and fire it up...

Spun it this morning. On par with the last two albums - excellent stuff top-to-bottom, but nothing entirely 'new' from PF. I'll still buy it though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 13, 2018, 09:55:17 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 13, 2018, 09:24:18 AM
Quote from: Samsara on August 13, 2018, 09:17:09 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
Has anyone heard the new Primal Fear in its entirety?

I've ordered it, but it won't get here for a few more days. The reviews sound very good

I have a download waiting for me. WIll go grab it and fire it up...

Spun it this morning. On par with the last two albums - excellent stuff top-to-bottom, but nothing entirely 'new' from PF. I'll still buy it though.

Yeah, agree with this. Enjoyed it.
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Post by: Grappler on August 13, 2018, 11:07:36 AM: The last Primal Fear album I bought was 16.6 and haven't kept up with them since. So this new one seems pretty kickass to me. :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2018, 11:23:22 AM: Quote from: Grappler on August 13, 2018, 11:07:36 AM
The last Primal Fear album I bought was 16.6 and haven't kept up with them since. So this new one seems pretty kickass to me. :metal

Dude... if you're loving Apocalypse, you need to get Delivering the Black, and Rulebreaker right now. They are both all kids of awesome.

One Night in December :2metal:
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Post by: Evermind on August 13, 2018, 11:40:37 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 13, 2018, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: Grappler on August 13, 2018, 11:07:36 AM
The last Primal Fear album I bought was 16.6 and haven't kept up with them since. So this new one seems pretty kickass to me. :metal

Dude... if you're loving Apocalypse, you need to get Delivering the Black, and Rulebreaker right now. They are both all kids of awesome.

One Night in December :2metal:

Delivering the Black is just a perfect album. I love it so much.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 13, 2018, 02:54:12 PM: I'm one listen in and its definitely on par with Rulebreaker. It's kick ass and like the Chadster said, its excellent from top to bottom but nothing new from PF. "Hail to the Fear" stood out to me upon first listen but I need to listen a few more times.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2018, 07:45:16 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 13, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
I'm one listen in and its definitely on par with Rulebreaker. It's kick ass and like the Chadster said, its excellent from top to bottom but nothing new from PF. "Hail to the Fear" stood out to me upon first listen but I need to listen a few more times.

I was awaiting the third in the epic 'trilogy'... One Night In December --> We Walk Without Fear --> ?? Eye of the storm was close, but not close enough.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2018, 11:48:41 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 13, 2018, 07:45:16 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 13, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
I'm one listen in and its definitely on par with Rulebreaker. It's kick ass and like the Chadster said, its excellent from top to bottom but nothing new from PF. "Hail to the Fear" stood out to me upon first listen but I need to listen a few more times.

I was awaiting the third in the epic 'trilogy'... One Night In December --> We Walk Without Fear --> ?? Eye of the storm was close, but not close enough.

agreed
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Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2018, 12:41:33 AM: Quote from: Grappler on August 13, 2018, 11:07:36 AM
The last Primal Fear album I bought was 16.6 and haven't kept up with them since. So this new one seems pretty kickass to me. :metal

Delivering the Black is where it's at.
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Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2018, 11:59:47 PM: Fuck yeah, just went for a hike to an out of town JB that is one of the most reliable and got a copy of the limited edition Primal Fear!! :metal

Wont get to listen until tomorrow though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 18, 2018, 06:31:39 PM: I was surprised that Sunrise Records in town had a copy. I took a shot and when I looked in the metal section and there wasn't anything. I asked if they were getting in some copies and they checked in the back room and had one.

Let us know what you think of it Wolfster, I'm liking it more and more with each listen.
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Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2018, 03:47:52 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 18, 2018, 06:31:39 PM
I was surprised that Sunrise Records in town had a copy. I took a shot and when I looked in the metal section and there wasn't anything. I asked if they were getting in some copies and they checked in the back room and had one.

Let us know what you think of it Wolfster, I'm liking it more and more with each listen.

Just on my first listen now. New Rise is a fucking ripper, as the Ritual. King of Madness has gown on me. Classic Magnus, but great melodies and lasting effect.

Onto Blood, Sweat and Tears. Generic as fuck riff but I like the pace. Already this sounds more in the vein of DTB than RB which is a good thing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2018, 03:52:50 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 12, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
Has anyone heard the new Primal Fear in its entirety?

I've ordered it, but it won't get here for a few more days. The reviews sound very good

Quote from: jjrock88 on August 18, 2018, 06:31:39 PM
I was surprised that Sunrise Records in town had a copy. I took a shot and when I looked in the metal section and there wasn't anything. I asked if they were getting in some copies and they checked in the back room and had one.

Let us know what you think of it Wolfster, I'm liking it more and more with each listen.

Wait, so did you buy a copy after you already had it on order?
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 19, 2018, 11:41:50 AM: haha yeah couldn't wait
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Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2018, 02:59:13 PM: Haha holy shit. You are metal as fuck j! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2018, 07:56:58 PM: Only had one solid listen but the album is pretty good. As I said, reminds me more of DTB than RB and that's fine in my book. I LOVE Hounds of Justice. I really like the modern chorus here. Hail to the Fear still needs to sink in, but the ballads Supernova and Eye of the Storm is quite excellent. I think Eye of the Storm is a very worthy counterpart to the epics from the last two albums. Very different, but just as epic with some great emotion.

Cannonball is nice and groovy too, that was an instant fav. Not sure what I think of the Beast yet. The bonus tracks are good too. Fight Against Evil is kind of average, but Into the FIre is a great different sounding song written by Alex and My War is Over is a generic but excellent Magnus ballad.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 19, 2018, 10:15:03 PM: It's not going to surpass the new Priest album for me, but I would definitely put it ahead of the new Saxon for the years best for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 19, 2018, 10:16:57 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 19, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
It's not going to surpass the new Priest album for me, but I would definitely put it ahead of the new Saxon for the years best for me.

That's cuz the Preist album is awesome and the Saxon is kinda weak. I'll check out the new PF when I get home. They just don't get any replay value from me.
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Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2018, 12:25:55 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 19, 2018, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 19, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
It's not going to surpass the new Priest album for me, but I would definitely put it ahead of the new Saxon for the years best for me.

That's cuz the Preist album is awesome and the Saxon is kinda weak. I'll check out the new PF when I get home. They just don't get any replay value from me.

Nah, the Saxon was good.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 20, 2018, 05:34:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 20, 2018, 12:25:55 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 19, 2018, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 19, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
It's not going to surpass the new Priest album for me, but I would definitely put it ahead of the new Saxon for the years best for me.

That's cuz the Preist album is awesome and the Saxon is kinda weak. I'll check out the new PF when I get home. They just don't get any replay value from me.

Nah, the Saxon was good.

Not been back to either the Saxon or Priest. The growls backing vocals on 5he Saxon put me off it. Took me back to when they put the keyboards in in 5he 80s, chasing the almighty dollar. Not that growls will get them that now but it’s tokenistic.
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Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2018, 05:52:20 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 20, 2018, 05:34:56 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 20, 2018, 12:25:55 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 19, 2018, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 19, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
It's not going to surpass the new Priest album for me, but I would definitely put it ahead of the new Saxon for the years best for me.

That's cuz the Preist album is awesome and the Saxon is kinda weak. I'll check out the new PF when I get home. They just don't get any replay value from me.

Nah, the Saxon was good.

Not been back to either the Saxon or Priest. The growls backing vocals on 5he Saxon put me off it. Took me back to when they put the keyboards in in 5he 80s, chasing the almighty dollar. Not that growls will get them that now but it’s tokenistic.

It's only one song mate.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2018, 06:40:17 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 20, 2018, 05:52:20 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 20, 2018, 05:34:56 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 20, 2018, 12:25:55 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 19, 2018, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 19, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
It's not going to surpass the new Priest album for me, but I would definitely put it ahead of the new Saxon for the years best for me.

That's cuz the Preist album is awesome and the Saxon is kinda weak. I'll check out the new PF when I get home. They just don't get any replay value from me.

Nah, the Saxon was good.

Not been back to either the Saxon or Priest. The growls backing vocals on 5he Saxon put me off it. Took me back to when they put the keyboards in in 5he 80s, chasing the almighty dollar. Not that growls will get them that now but it’s tokenistic.

It's only one song mate.

That's all it takes.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 20, 2018, 11:38:39 AM: It was enough 😀. Seemed like more but that’s my crap memory for you. It seriously annoyed me though 😀
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Post by: TAC on August 20, 2018, 11:45:06 AM: That’s the best song on the album though, and the only one that doesn’t scream how tired the band is.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2018, 12:28:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 20, 2018, 11:45:06 AM
That’s the best song on the album though, and the only one that doesn’t scream how tired the band is.

No ... it just screams.
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Post by: TAC on August 20, 2018, 12:29:28 PM: I knew that was coming from someone.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2018, 01:54:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 20, 2018, 12:29:28 PM
I knew that was coming from someone.

I'm never one to disappoint you

At least until results come later tonight :neverusethis:
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Post by: TAC on August 20, 2018, 03:14:11 PM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2018, 05:12:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 20, 2018, 11:45:06 AM
That’s the best song on the album though, and the only one that doesn’t scream how tired the band is.

I wouldn't say the album sounds tired at all, but yeah that track is nice and fresh and great to see the band try something new.
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Post by: TAC on August 20, 2018, 08:28:00 PM: So I listened to this interview on the plane ride home. Some amazing insights to the inner workings of the Dio band. It runs 50 mins but if you have the time, and love 80's Dio, it's a MUST listen.

https://bravewords.com/news/former-dio-keyboardist-claude-schnell-on-craig-goldy-replacing-vivian-campbell-vivian-was-basically-set-up-audio
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Post by: Lowdz on August 24, 2018, 03:56:21 PM: https://youtu.be/JyZwyFWWzw8

New Red Dragon Cartel song. I like it, quite Badlandsy but the singer is no Ray Gillen. Voice isn’t strong enough for me.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 24, 2018, 05:22:52 PM: And the new Dynazty

https://open.spotify.com/album/0o4pvfL7N1oNTh4MYeegD2?si=15PTdDEpQ3qr9XuMJR4D0g

Not sure yet. Sounds like metal ABBA, which should be a good thing 😀
The singer is awesome though.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 24, 2018, 09:13:03 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 24, 2018, 03:56:21 PM
https://youtu.be/JyZwyFWWzw8

New Red Dragon Cartel song. I like it, quite Badlandsy but the singer is no Ray Gillen. Voice isn’t strong enough for me.

I'm actually shocked that Darren Smith is still on the mic after that horrible outing he had when they did a few gigs.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 25, 2018, 01:19:01 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 24, 2018, 09:13:03 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 24, 2018, 03:56:21 PM
https://youtu.be/JyZwyFWWzw8

New Red Dragon Cartel song. I like it, quite Badlandsy but the singer is no Ray Gillen. Voice isn’t strong enough for me.

I'm actually shocked that Darren Smith is still on the mic after that horrible outing he had when they did a few gigs.

I guess they must be mates. It’s tough to follow Ray Gillen though.
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Post by: mike099 on August 25, 2018, 11:50:24 PM: Just got back from seeing Journey and Def Leppard in Nasville and both bands were great and the sound was fantastic. Sometimes bands tend to sound too loud and distorted in Bridgestone Arena, but not tonight.

The best song of the night was and extended version of the instrumental 'Switch 625' from the album High and Dry. The drummer was really touched by the reception he received from the crowd.

I even met a guy wearing a Dream Theater shirt and talked progressive music in the consession line.
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Post by: TAC on August 27, 2018, 12:09:49 PM: Wow, a great lineup on this:

https://bravewords.com/news/gary-moore-moore-blues-for-gary-tribute-album-due-in-october-guests-include-bob-daisley-glenn-hughes-don-airey-john-sykes-steve-morse-doug-aldrich-and-more
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Post by: Lowdz on August 27, 2018, 03:56:26 PM: I’ll give that a listen. Such a grea5 player, sadly missed
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2018, 11:47:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 27, 2018, 12:09:49 PM
Wow, a great lineup on this:

https://bravewords.com/news/gary-moore-moore-blues-for-gary-tribute-album-due-in-october-guests-include-bob-daisley-glenn-hughes-don-airey-john-sykes-steve-morse-doug-aldrich-and-more

Not bad. A shame there is 80's rockers but I get this is a blues tribute thing.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 28, 2018, 01:03:46 PM: From Frontiers for you non-facebookers...

BREAKING NEWS: Frontiers Music Srl is thrilled to announce the signing of Masters Of Ceremony, a new project masterminded by none other than one of the most talented writers, musicians, and producers of the German Heavy Metal scene, Sascha Paeth.

To label Sascha Paeth a multi-talented producer, engineer, musician, and songwriter might not quite cover his full set of skills and achievements. The Wolfsburg-born German multi-musician has produced countless bands including Avantasia, KAMELOT, Rhapsody, Epica, and more. Having worked on, produced, and engineered over 200 albums since 1988, it’s fair to say he has a reputation for being at the forefront of shaping the European melodic power metal sound. Now, Paeth is taking the next step in his artistic journey by releasing his new project, “Sascha Paeth’s Masters Of Ceremony”.

Sascha says, “Finally, I am putting my energy into a metal project of my own. It is the sum of my experiences over the years and a bit of a revival of what I was doing in the past.”

As a 15 year old teenager, you might have found Paeth playing a more bluesy style, or Van Halen-meets-Accept style hard rock, but it wasn’t long before Paeth joined Heaven’s Gate, where the music was harder and heavier. The experience was where he learned to enjoy inspiration from adapting, from new styles, and from new collaborations. It was the start of a long journey through the music business, a journey that is far from over!

“It took a few years of nice, and ambitious, talks about a possible collaboration with Frontiers,” says Sascha. “It’s my very first metal solo album and I am looking forward to sharing the progress on the production and revealing the band members over the next weeks and months."

+ www.saschapaeth.com
+ https://www.facebook.com/Sascha-Paeths-Masters-Of-Ceremony-252517935590849/
+ https://www.instagram.com/saschapaethofficial/

I know Kade isn’t a fan of his soloing but he can produce a very good sounding album.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 28, 2018, 01:34:55 PM: Color me intrigued.
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Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2018, 05:23:48 PM: Marsters of Ceremony? Haha.

Yeah, Im not a fan of his leads or his tone at all, but this should be worth a listen.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 29, 2018, 04:00:35 PM: Another new one x 3/4 of Dokken and Robert Mason on vocals. Unfortunately they are saying it doesn’t sound like Dokken. I’d be happy if it did. Like all Lynch efforts these days I’ll sample it first.

https://www.hairbandheaven.rocks/single-post/2018/08/29/The-new-band-featuring-three-members-of-the-classic-DOKKEN-and-ROBERT-MASON-christened-THE-END
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Post by: Indiscipline on August 31, 2018, 01:22:19 AM: This seemed the right thread, if not I apologise. I'm visiting my parents' old house and found some original vinyl oldies belonging to the Big Banging Bro:

(https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/30/DSC_0003.jpg)

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Post by: jingle.boy on August 31, 2018, 02:51:01 AM: Definitely the right thread! FYI, this thread has evolved from the original OP/title, to just be a "the coolest DTF'rs discussing damned good rock and metal music/bands"
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 31, 2018, 02:57:38 AM: Speaking of which... new Nordic Union track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhR0y36ZhU

Pretty safe and uneventful. I'll stick check the album out when it drops.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on August 31, 2018, 03:43:41 AM: I think we own exactly the same bed sheets as your parents. :biggrin:
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Post by: Indiscipline on August 31, 2018, 04:00:21 AM: European Union of Ikea
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Post by: Lowdz on August 31, 2018, 12:00:04 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 31, 2018, 02:51:01 AM
Definitely the right thread! FYI, this thread has evolved from the original OP/title, to just be a "the coolest DTF'rs discussing damned good rock and metal music/bands"

Yeah the Canuck has it right 🤘
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 31, 2018, 12:44:27 PM: eh! :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 31, 2018, 02:15:34 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 31, 2018, 12:00:04 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on August 31, 2018, 02:51:01 AM
Definitely the right thread! FYI, this thread has evolved from the original OP/title, to just be a "the coolest DTF'rs discussing damned good rock and metal music/bands"

Yeah the Canuck has it right 🤘

Also, the thread title helps keep out the younglings that have to have "post" and "core" as the words used to describe *their* music.

Rock, Metal, and Roll are the only three words necessary to describe good - nay, GREAT - music. Well... maybe add Prog into that every now and then.
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2018, 03:37:31 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 31, 2018, 02:57:38 AM
Speaking of which... new Nordic Union track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhR0y36ZhU

Pretty safe and uneventful. I'll stick check the album out when it drops.

Same fucking song over and over. Same generic rehashed shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 31, 2018, 04:28:26 PM: Quote from: Indiscipline on August 31, 2018, 01:22:19 AM
This seemed the right thread, if not I apologise. I'm visiting my parents' old house and found some original vinyl oldies belonging to the Big Banging Bro:

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Great post. That's what this thread is all about.

Indiscipline, welcome to the Cool Thread!

I saw MOD!
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Post by: Indiscipline on August 31, 2018, 04:34:44 PM: Well met then, guys!

TAC, you are watching THE Awake Bed in the pics.
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2018, 05:15:55 PM: Ahh...speaking of the Rhythm Of Fear...
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Post by: Big Hath on September 01, 2018, 12:08:08 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on August 31, 2018, 03:43:41 AM
I think we own exactly the same bed sheets as your parents. :biggrin:

do you share them or something? How does that arrangement work?
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Post by: bl5150 on September 02, 2018, 10:07:14 AM: Hey guys - hope everyone is well. A quick post on Ben's recent KISS related adventure.

Out the front of the Adelaide Entertainment Centre with his tix and passes to see soundcheck for Gene Simmons/Ace Frehley

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A few nice shots that Dad took of the night (incl Randy Rhoads lookalike making an appearance )

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Ben taking over the whole thing and giving Uncle Gene a laugh

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Ben catching up with Gene after the show and borrowing his sunnies

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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2018, 10:13:52 AM: BRENT!!!!

Epic post, my friend.

Way to go, Ben!!!!!!

I noticed that show came up on Dime the other day, and I thought of you.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on September 02, 2018, 11:15:14 AM: I went to the Sydney show of that on Friday night! :metal We all instantly pointed out the Randy Rhoads wannabe guitarist too. :lol Hey, if you're gonna rip someone off, rip off the best, right?

Was quite a fun show, and 2.5h of solid rock. Wasn't a fan of them bringing people up on stage. There was one guy who was trying to sing the entire song and not just the choruses. Luckily the mics were pretty much muted during those parts anyway and mostly for show.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2018, 11:37:34 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 02, 2018, 10:13:52 AM
BRENT!!!!

Epic post, my friend.

Way to go, Ben!!!!!!

Stole what I was gonna say. That’s awesome, mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2018, 11:55:08 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on September 02, 2018, 02:16:43 PM: Good to see you Brent. Great photos. Love the Ace with smoking Guitar.
And the god of thunder getting to meet Gene $immons!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 02, 2018, 10:40:17 PM: Wow, this looks like a great and fun experience. :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2018, 05:34:16 AM: They are fantastic pictures Brent!!
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Post by: TAC on September 04, 2018, 07:28:53 PM: So my first thought upon seeing this:

https://bravewords.com/news/kingdom-come-announce-more-dates-for-30th-anniversary-tour

was...

WHO FUCKING CARES??
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 04, 2018, 07:40:30 PM: Apparently not many, they're playing at Camel Rock Casino here. Its a pretty small casino. So yeah.
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Post by: TAC on September 04, 2018, 07:43:46 PM: They're playing the Greasy BrewPub in New Bedford, MA. It's a relatively new place that is hosting 80's bands. It's pretty small. I've never seen it, though I did grow up in that area.
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Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2018, 12:33:08 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 04, 2018, 07:28:53 PM
So my first thought upon seeing this:

https://bravewords.com/news/kingdom-come-announce-more-dates-for-30th-anniversary-tour

was...

WHO FUCKING CARES??

You really don't like this band hey?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Indiscipline on September 05, 2018, 04:38:54 AM: This is really too much obscure to start its own thread, so I come to the sages for opinions about a pet peeve of mine.

Warrior Soul.

I liked them plenty in my teens, and I still feel they were way ahead of their time. They may also be one of the most significant historical sliding doors, as they could have been a great voice for the same generation x market that eventually elected the Seattle scene, transforming hard rock.

Your thoughts?
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 05, 2018, 04:55:25 AM: Can't say I ever heard of them. Maybe, but not ringing any bells.
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Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2018, 05:14:28 AM: Quote from: Indiscipline on September 05, 2018, 04:38:54 AM
This is really too much obscure to start its own thread, so I come to the sages for opinions about a pet peeve of mine.

Warrior Soul.

I liked them plenty in my teens, and I still feel they were way ahead of their time. They may also be one of the most significant historical sliding doors, as they could have been a great voice for the same generation x market that eventually elected the Seattle scene, transforming hard rock.

Your thoughts?

Never heard of them mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 05, 2018, 10:27:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 05, 2018, 05:14:28 AM
Quote from: Indiscipline on September 05, 2018, 04:38:54 AM
This is really too much obscure to start its own thread, so I come to the sages for opinions about a pet peeve of mine.

Warrior Soul.

I liked them plenty in my teens, and I still feel they were way ahead of their time. They may also be one of the most significant historical sliding doors, as they could have been a great voice for the same generation x market that eventually elected the Seattle scene, transforming hard rock.

Your thoughts?

Never heard of them mate.

I have their first album due to rave reviews. Wasn’t my thing, though as you say they would have fit right in with the grunge stuff a few years later.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 05, 2018, 12:50:55 PM: Never heard of them but just checked them out on youtube. They have the look of a glam band, but are way too grungy for my liking.
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Post by: TAC on September 05, 2018, 12:55:24 PM: I've definitely heard of Warrior Soul. I just never checked them out.
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Post by: Indiscipline on September 05, 2018, 01:43:06 PM: Thank you, gentlemen. For those interested, the first 3 albums is were it's at.

It's a very peculiar brand of spunk and attitude, but pretty honest.
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Post by: TAC on September 05, 2018, 01:46:16 PM: Better than Matilda??
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Post by: Indiscipline on September 05, 2018, 01:49:17 PM: HAHA. Nothing beats Revolting Children as far as spunk and attitude. They're like 12 small Lemmys.

Have you listened to it?
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Post by: TAC on September 05, 2018, 01:50:33 PM: I did. Let's just say that I did not think of 12 small Lemmys.
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Post by: Indiscipline on September 05, 2018, 02:04:17 PM: (https://i.imgur.com/p4zmRgO.gif)

Lemmyngs?
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Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2018, 06:35:45 PM: New Fifth Angel https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=233&v=-5Nkjoai-GY

I wouldn't rave over the song itself (good without blowing me away) but I think the overall sound (and the "new"vocalist) are good enough to suggest we're going to get a high quality album from them :tup
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Post by: TAC on September 08, 2018, 06:44:04 PM: I agree, Brent. Sounds pretty solid. ;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 08, 2018, 11:38:22 PM: Fifth Angel does the power ballad very well and this sounds like a solid progression from 30 years ago :lol

It's a great song but not the type of song I was expecting as the first release. Not sure if it's an official first single or if they will just be releasing lyric videos for a few songs before the release.

The album cover is kick ass
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Post by: Lowdz on September 09, 2018, 03:03:50 PM: I enjoyed that. Looks l8ke we can get a bit excited for this one.

First track from the Gary Moore tribute available here. Sykes is excellent on it and no pinch harmonics for the first time every 😱. Thunder’s Danny Bowes is such a great singer for this stuff.

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/listen-to-still-got-the-blues-for-you-from-forthcoming-gary-moore-tribute-album
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Post by: TAC on September 09, 2018, 05:09:54 PM: Thanks for posting, Paul. I saw that the other day, but didn't have time to play it. Love the vocals on this.

More proof that the world needs more John Sykes.

Man, I miss Gary Moore. The world lost a genius.
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Post by: Indiscipline on September 10, 2018, 03:53:23 AM: Beautiful job by John Sykes. Very respectful, conveying Moore's urge and scratch yet keeping his own voice. Incredible artist, should have given us more.

Very interested in Steve Morse's take on Parisienne Walkaways.
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Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2018, 05:46:54 AM: Really liked that version by Sykes.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 10, 2018, 07:57:30 AM: IMO you can hear that Sykes has lost a few gears (speed/accuracy) in the faster stuff but I still liked it - he has about the best tone to channel Gary Moore (absent all the "feel" of Moore).

I'll be interested to hear how Steve Morse goes too - I often find him quite cold/sterile. So if he can do justice to Moore I might change my mind :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 10, 2018, 12:05:21 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 10, 2018, 07:57:30 AM
IMO you can hear that Sykes has lost a few gears (speed/accuracy) in the faster stuff but I still liked it - he has about the best tone to channel Gary Moore (absent all the "feel" of Moore).

I'll be interested to hear how Steve Morse goes too - I often find him quite cold/sterile. So if he can do justice to Moore I might change my mind :)

Agree on Morse. Technically gifted but lacking the emotion. I don’t see him as a songwriter either.
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Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2018, 11:26:44 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 10, 2018, 07:57:30 AM
IMO you can hear that Sykes has lost a few gears (speed/accuracy) in the faster stuff but I still liked it - he has about the best tone to channel Gary Moore (absent all the "feel" of Moore).

I'll be interested to hear how Steve Morse goes too - I often find him quite cold/sterile. So if he can do justice to Moore I might change my mind :)

I thought that too with the faster stuff at the end. Still solid though.

I have never been a big Morse fan either, his style is way too repetitive IMO. Lacks variation and feel most of the time.
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Post by: Indiscipline on September 11, 2018, 05:27:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 10, 2018, 07:57:30 AM
I'll be interested to hear how Steve Morse goes too - I often find him quite cold/sterile. So if he can do justice to Moore I might change my mind :)

That's the exact reason I'm extremely curious about it. Gary Moore, among other amazing qualities, had the otherwordly ability to relinquish control over the fretboard, go on pure instinctual rampages and suddenly awaken from the trance. The result was flawlessly organic. Morse seems to be continously analysing what he plays, and he never loses a speck of intellectual control on his phrases. Parisienne Walkaways - an emotive piece like few others - could be a fantastic workbench for him to show he can let go.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 11, 2018, 03:21:02 PM: Certainly interested to hear it. I do enjoy his playing. Tumeni Notes rips.

The last Purple album was great and I enjoyed the making of documentary. He’s really suffering with arthritis with the exaggerated picking hand position.
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Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on September 12, 2018, 07:08:42 AM: There's a new Sykes album waiting to be released in late 2018/early 2019. Sy-Ops is it's title, feat. Tony Franklin. https://allthatshreds.com/is-john-sykes-sy-ops-album-finally-going-to-be-released/ (https://allthatshreds.com/is-john-sykes-sy-ops-album-finally-going-to-be-released/)

I liked Steve Morse in Kansas and like him in Purple. I think he has a great creamy tone. I like the last two DP albums very much.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 12, 2018, 08:21:22 AM: I like Steve Morse's playing very much and imo he has a lot of feel in his playing. He just isn't a good song writer and that's where his solo records lack. He's definitely a better writer in a band situation, Kansas, Deep Purple, Flying Colours etc. have a lot of great songs he's contributed to.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 14, 2018, 01:20:01 AM: Went and saw Metallica last night.

Awesome 2.5 hour show; this band knows how to put on a great show and James still sounds just as good as ever. You talk about singers who have taken care of their voice and still going strong, you have to include James in the conversation.

The only head scratcher was a cover of BTO'S Takin' Care of Business with Robert singing it. I could have done without that one lol. But overall it was St Anger and LuLu free!
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Post by: Indiscipline on September 14, 2018, 02:33:56 AM: Yeah, he actually got better with age, technically and soundwise.
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Post by: ozzy554 on September 14, 2018, 06:04:53 AM: I dont care what anybody says st.anger is a killer live track that should be performed regularly.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2018, 01:06:41 AM: https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status/1040649475130220544
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 15, 2018, 04:54:26 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 15, 2018, 01:06:41 AM
https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status/1040649475130220544

As one of the responses states... not all heroes wear capes.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 21, 2018, 07:55:42 AM: Had to save this from page 2.

New Gus G / Vinnie Moore. I dig it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wewxpWckg7o
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Post by: Lowdz on September 22, 2018, 02:07:53 AM: Yeah, Loved that. Vinnie is my favourite guitarist. Such melody in his playing for a shredder.
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Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2018, 04:08:31 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 21, 2018, 07:55:42 AM
Had to save this from page 2.

New Gus G / Vinnie Moore. I dig it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wewxpWckg7o

I wonder what the go is with this track. Must just be a one of as it's not on Gus' new album.

Gus though is quickly becoming one of my fav guitarists, his style is wonderful.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2018, 06:17:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 23, 2018, 04:08:31 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 21, 2018, 07:55:42 AM
Had to save this from page 2.

New Gus G / Vinnie Moore. I dig it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wewxpWckg7o

I wonder what the go is with this track. Must just be a one of as it's not on Gus' new album.

Gus though is quickly becoming one of my fav guitarists, his style is wonderful.

I was wondering the same - I even had to go back and check the tracklist of Fearless to be sure.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2018, 06:35:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 23, 2018, 04:08:31 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 21, 2018, 07:55:42 AM
Had to save this from page 2.

New Gus G / Vinnie Moore. I dig it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wewxpWckg7o

I wonder what the go is with this track. Must just be a one of as it's not on Gus' new album.

Gus though is quickly becoming one of my fav guitarists, his style is wonderful.

Gus and Vinnie are touring together, with Richie Kotzen.
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2018, 10:38:25 AM: New Metal Church!! :metal

https://bravewords.com/news/metal-church-to-release-damned-if-you-do-album-in-december-details-revealed
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2018, 12:02:53 PM: Tim are you thinking of ordering the ultimate fan bundle just to talk to Mike Howe on the phone?
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2018, 01:58:42 PM: $150 Definitely not. :lol

The $22 CD preorder is cool. That's not too much to get the autographs.

Unfortunately I get all of my CDs from Amazon..
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Post by: Samsara on October 04, 2018, 02:01:04 PM: Looking forward to the new Metal Church. :metal

I'll be getting mine on amazon. Don't really care about anything offered as a bonus. Just the record.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2018, 02:11:32 PM: Bringing back Howe was definitely the best move for the band.
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2018, 02:19:05 PM: Bringing back Howe would be the best move for any band!
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Post by: ozzy554 on October 04, 2018, 02:53:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 04, 2018, 02:11:32 PM
Bringing back Howe was definitely the best move for the band.

Kurdt thought so too. He was actually considering ending the band if Mike had said no.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2018, 05:35:14 PM: Not sure how many follow Blabbermouth on a regular basis, but they seem to always have stories with the same rock stars over and over. It's clearly just to mess around with people, but for the last couple weeks it's seemingly been turned up a notch with daily trivial stories revolving around KK Downing. I think each story is from his new book, but it's funny watching people lose it with the constant KK updates lol.
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2018, 05:50:01 PM: Blabbermouth isn't even on my radar. I go to Bravewords for my daily metal news.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2018, 05:50:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 04, 2018, 05:50:01 PM
Blabbermouth isn't even on my radar. I go to Bravewords for my daily metal news.

Canadian :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2018, 05:54:07 PM: (https://f0.bcbits.com/img/a2114568081_2.jpg)
(https://ondeschocs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/canada.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2018, 06:44:54 PM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2018, 07:48:47 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 04, 2018, 05:35:14 PM
Not sure how many follow Blabbermouth on a regular basis, but they seem to always have stories with the same rock stars over and over. It's clearly just to mess around with people, but for the last couple weeks it's seemingly been turned up a notch with daily trivial stories revolving around KK Downing. I think each story is from his new book, but it's funny watching people lose it with the constant KK updates lol.

I use to look at it daily but haven't been there for months. I should check it out again though by the sounds. The comments made visiting worthwhile most of the time.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 04, 2018, 10:02:29 PM: It seems to happen on BM every time a high profile book comes out - exerpts for weeks and each one a new "story" on BM. As Kade said - you go there for the comments.

Speaking of amusing .........this clip of Steel Panther doing Ozzy managed to get a laugh out of me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfowLnbTkU
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 05, 2018, 08:03:04 AM: :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on October 05, 2018, 11:06:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 04, 2018, 10:02:29 PM
It seems to happen on BM every time a high profile book comes out - exerpts for weeks and each one a new "story" on BM. As Kade said - you go there for the comments.

Speaking of amusing .........this clip of Steel Panther doing Ozzy managed to get a laugh out of me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfowLnbTkU

Saw that the other day. Brilliant. Even got the auto tune on the chorus and mumbling words, forgetting them. Pure Ozzy.

Anyone heard 5he new Dynazty? Solid. 😀
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Post by: Samsara on October 05, 2018, 11:16:03 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 04, 2018, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 04, 2018, 05:35:14 PM
Not sure how many follow Blabbermouth on a regular basis, but they seem to always have stories with the same rock stars over and over. It's clearly just to mess around with people, but for the last couple weeks it's seemingly been turned up a notch with daily trivial stories revolving around KK Downing. I think each story is from his new book, but it's funny watching people lose it with the constant KK updates lol.

I use to look at it daily but haven't been there for months. I should check it out again though by the sounds. The comments made visiting worthwhile most of the time.

I stopped bothering a year or so ago. It's all meant as click bait. If I want news on bands I like, I simply go to their social media sites and get it there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2018, 05:05:48 AM: Just thought I'd post my little haul I ordered from Utopia in Sydney lads; Brent reminding me about them for the Redemption a while back and got these;

Redemption - Long Night's Journey Into Day
UDO - Steelfactory
Omnium Gatherum - The Burning Cold
Vega - Only Human

Not expecting much from the Vega, but they are a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. I know Omnium Gatherum probably shouldn't be mentioned in this thread haha, but Jon sending them to me in my first roulette has made me a fan. Love their melodies and the mix of brutal growls and such beautiful music is excellent. This is a pretty standard affair from them but a couple of goodies.

The big surprise is the UDO. I LOVED Decadent and it's probably my fav from him so I was skeptical with what he would come up with. And it's a worthy follow up just from the first listen. Still maintains that bit of heaviness in some of the songs, but even though there's about 50 songs on here I'm looking forward getting into this one, some great melodies and riffs all the way through, with some nice edge without too much cheesiness. Although I dare you not to laugh your ass off as soon as you hear Make the Move.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2018, 03:56:58 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 07, 2018, 05:05:48 AM
The big surprise is the UDO. I LOVED Decadent and it's probably my fav from him so I was skeptical with what he would come up with. And it's a worthy follow up just from the first listen. Still maintains that bit of heaviness in some of the songs, but even though there's about 50 songs on here I'm looking forward getting into this one, some great melodies and riffs all the way through, with some nice edge without too much cheesiness. Although I dare you not to laugh your ass off as soon as you hear ~~Make the Move.~~ Living For Tonight.

I'm checking this out. The first song sounds great.

Tongue Reaper?

Tongue fucking Reaper?? :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2018, 04:17:21 PM: Make The Move was awful, vocally. Udo would be a great band... without Udo
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2018, 05:09:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 15, 2018, 03:56:58 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 07, 2018, 05:05:48 AM
The big surprise is the UDO. I LOVED Decadent and it's probably my fav from him so I was skeptical with what he would come up with. And it's a worthy follow up just from the first listen. Still maintains that bit of heaviness in some of the songs, but even though there's about 50 songs on here I'm looking forward getting into this one, some great melodies and riffs all the way through, with some nice edge without too much cheesiness. Although I dare you not to laugh your ass off as soon as you hear ~~Make the Move.~~ Living For Tonight.

I'm checking this out. The first song sounds great.

Tongue Reaper?

Tongue fucking Reaper?? :rollin

Yeah, crazy rip off there, but I love it. Yeah, Tongue Reaper, WTF?!! :metal :metal :metal

Quote from: Lowdz on October 15, 2018, 04:17:21 PM
Make The Move was awful, vocally. Udo would be a great band... without Udo

I actually think he sounds pretty decent on this album. This isn't as good as Decadent, but it's really enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 16, 2018, 07:32:58 AM: This might be of more interest than the Work Of Art preview Tim........

https://www.metalblade.com/europe/news/riot-releases-thundersteel-30th-anniversary-edition/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 17, 2018, 09:10:54 AM: Yeah, that's more like it!!

Oh, and here's a great DTF Secret Santa idea!
https://knucklebonz.com/product/yngwie-malmsteen-rock-iconz-statue/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2018, 01:01:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 17, 2018, 09:10:54 AM
Yeah, that's more like it!!

Oh, and here's a great DTF Secret Santa idea!
https://knucklebonz.com/product/yngwie-malmsteen-rock-iconz-statue/

That is fucking amazing, I love it, but $149!?!!!?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 17, 2018, 01:07:49 PM: You guys see this? 44. WTF??

https://bravewords.com/news/all-that-remains-confirm-death-of-guitarist-oli-herbert

About a dozen years ago or so, I tried rough style vocals and All That Remains is one of the band I checked out. I remember their music was pretty good. I may go back and recheck it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 17, 2018, 08:46:48 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 17, 2018, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 17, 2018, 09:10:54 AM
Yeah, that's more like it!!

Oh, and here's a great DTF Secret Santa idea!
https://knucklebonz.com/product/yngwie-malmsteen-rock-iconz-statue/

That is fucking amazing, I love it, but $149!?!!!?

The Wolfking guitar Rock Iconz Statue would be cooler! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 17, 2018, 08:53:37 PM: MUCH COOLER! :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 17, 2018, 11:55:54 PM: (https://i.postimg.cc/WtRyxNWp/wolf5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 18, 2018, 05:00:47 AM: I'd get that!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 18, 2018, 05:33:39 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 17, 2018, 01:07:49 PM
You guys see this? 44. WTF??

https://bravewords.com/news/all-that-remains-confirm-death-of-guitarist-oli-herbert

About a dozen years ago or so, I tried rough style vocals and All That Remains is one of the band I checked out. I remember their music was pretty good. I may go back and recheck it.

Oh fuck. What the hell, I wonder what happened, Oli was a great guitarist and I've got one of their older albums and it's quality. Fuckin' hell.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 18, 2018, 05:35:57 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 17, 2018, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 17, 2018, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 17, 2018, 09:10:54 AM
Yeah, that's more like it!!

Oh, and here's a great DTF Secret Santa idea!
https://knucklebonz.com/product/yngwie-malmsteen-rock-iconz-statue/

That is fucking amazing, I love it, but $149!?!!!?

The Wolfking guitar Rock Iconz Statue would be cooler! :metal

:metal I'd give you all you boys a free one too!!!

Quote from: bl5150 on October 17, 2018, 11:55:54 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/WtRyxNWp/wolf5.jpg)

I'd buy that one too. But the real question is where is the Kip Winger one??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 18, 2018, 04:28:13 PM: Brilliant 😀🤘
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 19, 2018, 09:23:45 AM: New Starbreaker - sounds a bit more straight ahead metal than the older modern-tinged stuff

https://youtu.be/sZ964oRKEvU

album due Jan 2019

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/starbreakerdysphoriacd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2018, 09:43:29 AM: (https://replygif.net/i/1044.gif)

Decent enough first track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bosk1 on October 19, 2018, 09:57:30 AM: Listened to Lynch Mob's first album, Wicked Sensation, the other day for the first time in ages. I have to say, while there was nothing really groundbreaking or deep about it, the songs are SO well composed just from a musical standpoint. The guitar riffs are nasty and catchy. The vocal melodies are amazing. Oni Logan just drips attitude the way he sings. Really good album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2018, 12:16:26 PM: (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81pOu3lDOCL._SY355_.jpg)

Really nice listen... though I can easily do without the Phantom of the Opera cover.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 19, 2018, 01:02:26 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on October 19, 2018, 09:57:30 AM
Listened to Lynch Mob's first album, Wicked Sensation, the other day for the first time in ages. I have to say, while there was nothing really groundbreaking or deep about it, the songs are SO well composed just from a musical standpoint. The guitar riffs are nasty and catchy. The vocal melodies are amazing. Oni Logan just drips attitude the way he sings. Really good album.

Great album. Second one was pretty good too. Production wasn’t as good however.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 19, 2018, 01:32:35 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 19, 2018, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on October 19, 2018, 09:57:30 AM
Listened to Lynch Mob's first album, Wicked Sensation, the other day for the first time in ages. I have to say, while there was nothing really groundbreaking or deep about it, the songs are SO well composed just from a musical standpoint. The guitar riffs are nasty and catchy. The vocal melodies are amazing. Oni Logan just drips attitude the way he sings. Really good album.

Great album. Second one was pretty good too. Production wasn’t as good however.

I saw them when they opened for Great White in 2012. It was my birthday too, I thought they were great. Bought Sound Mountain Sessions and got it signed by George Lynch.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2018, 04:24:23 PM: The Primal Fear influence is really strong and evident in that Starbreaker track. However, Tony sounds amazing and the songwriting is really good as always.

Even though what Magnus has been doing lately is not The Battle or the first Starbreaker quality, he's still really having a very strong run and still putting out impressive stuff. Although, it seems he doesn't give a fuck that he uses the same 4 licks over and over again.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 19, 2018, 04:36:37 PM: Quote from: Ben_Jamin on October 19, 2018, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 19, 2018, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on October 19, 2018, 09:57:30 AM
Listened to Lynch Mob's first album, Wicked Sensation, the other day for the first time in ages. I have to say, while there was nothing really groundbreaking or deep about it, the songs are SO well composed just from a musical standpoint. The guitar riffs are nasty and catchy. The vocal melodies are amazing. Oni Logan just drips attitude the way he sings. Really good album.

Great album. Second one was pretty good too. Production wasn’t as good however.

I saw them when they opened for Great White in 2012. It was my birthday too, I thought they were great. Bought Sound Mountain Sessions and got it signed by George Lynch.

I saw them open for Queensryche and after their set they stood in front of me to watch the start of the QR set. They only stayed there for a couple of songs but enough to shake George’s hand. No magic rubbed off on my guitar playing 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bertielee on October 20, 2018, 10:40:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 19, 2018, 04:24:23 PM
The Primal Fear influence is really strong and evident in that Starbreaker track. However, Tony sounds amazing and the songwriting is really good as always.

Even though what Magnus has been doing lately is not The Battle or the first Starbreaker quality, he's still really having a very strong run and still putting out impressive stuff. Although, it seems he doesn't give a fuck that he uses the same 4 licks over and over again.

Yes MK's riffs are a little on the "been there, done that" vibe but they're very efficient for what they are. And Tony Harnell! Just wow! What an amazing singer! He's always been one of my all time faves.

B.Lee
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 21, 2018, 03:33:17 PM: So I saw this headline:
https://bravewords.com/news/kingdom-come-talk-comeback-shows-we-re-touring-to-re-establish-the-band-name

RE-establish?? Don't you have to be... oh I don't know.....established first!!?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2018, 03:41:52 PM: :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 21, 2018, 04:39:20 PM: https://youtu.be/oeb1As36m3k

New Inglorious track. I like it. I was a bit disappointed that it slowed down after the initial fast riff but it picked up nicely after.

That seems to be standard practice these days, fast riff to make 3 everything interesting then switch to the clean chords and bore the pants off everyone. Film video in abandoned warehouse and repeat.

Anyway, Nathan James can sing a bit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 21, 2018, 04:46:05 PM: Yikes!

Wrong thread, bro. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2018, 02:23:07 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 21, 2018, 04:46:05 PM
Yikes!

Wrong thread, bro. ;D

I enjoyed it too much to consign it to the Frontiers graveyard thread 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 22, 2018, 03:26:36 PM: Inglorious slays. I like the first record more than the second. I am not going to listen to the new song, just going to pre-order the CD. I have a feeling I'll like it better than the second one. Inglorious really needs to get out and tour more outside of the UK.

And Nathan James needs more exposure. I saw him with TSO years ago, and he just slayed. When they did Savatage, I mean it was absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:28:12 PM: Slays what? Cotton balls?

This songs makes Winger sound like Testament.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2018, 03:28:47 PM: I just couldn't get into them. Too generic for me, but as musicians they are quite talented, the singer is good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2018, 03:29:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Slays what? Cotton balls?

This songs makes Winger sound like Testament.

I'd take that as a Winger compliment coming from you Tim. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 22, 2018, 03:30:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Slays what? Cotton balls?

This songs makes Winger sound like Testament.

Wow Tim, you've come around on Winger.

wolfking beat me to it. Good man!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:39:18 PM: Dammit Wolfking!

Dammit Samsara!

Awe hell!! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2018, 03:59:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:39:18 PM
Dammit Wolfking!

Dammit Samsara!

Awe hell!! :lol

(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/5a/61/53/5a6153014ef5ba838b83be80ff79fd8a--beatrice-richter-hairy-men.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 22, 2018, 06:23:25 PM: :lol

Everything comes back to Winger!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2018, 06:42:45 PM: I refuse to look at that picture. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2018, 06:56:00 PM: I don't know where to put this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/billy-idol-sued-for-allegedly-ghosting-fan-after-concert/ar-BBOJsTX?li=BBnbfcL

But it must be tough for Billy Idol to be sued for NOT banging some chick after a show. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2018, 07:28:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 06:42:45 PM
I refuse to look at that picture. :lol

His eyes will trap you Tim. You can only look away for so long.

Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 06:56:00 PM
I don't know where to put this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/billy-idol-sued-for-allegedly-ghosting-fan-after-concert/ar-BBOJsTX?li=BBnbfcL

But it must be tough for Billy Idol to be sued for NOT banging some chick after a show. :lol

Does this woman have legal representation? Surely no lawyer would really endorse and support this lawsuit. Need Stadler's opinion here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2018, 07:56:07 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 22, 2018, 07:28:56 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 06:42:45 PM
I refuse to look at that picture. :lol

His eyes will trap you Tim. You can only look away for so long.

That's what I'm afraid of. :lol

Quote from: wolfking on October 22, 2018, 07:28:56 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 06:56:00 PM
I don't know where to put this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/billy-idol-sued-for-allegedly-ghosting-fan-after-concert/ar-BBOJsTX?li=BBnbfcL

But it must be tough for Billy Idol to be sued for NOT banging some chick after a show. :lol

Does this woman have legal representation? Surely no lawyer would really endorse and support this lawsuit. Need Stadler's opinion here.

Might actually explain Stadler's absence from DTF today..
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2018, 07:57:21 PM: :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 23, 2018, 02:50:42 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Slays what? Cotton balls?

This songs makes Winger sound like Testament.

Growlie Tim, what have you done with real Tim? Bring him back to us 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 05:34:17 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 23, 2018, 02:50:42 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Slays what? Cotton balls?

This songs makes Winger sound like Testament.

Growlie Tim, what have you done with real Tim? Bring him back to us 😀

I quite like the new Tim actually.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 23, 2018, 07:26:20 AM: Pillow Paul, where’s Rocking Paul? :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 23, 2018, 08:43:43 AM: I'm waiting for bosk to replace TAC's profile pic with one of Kip Winger. Gonna happen.

Or hell, we'll get someone to make a theme for the board of all Winger, and bosk can roll it out, calling it the TAC V. 1 theme.

That really needs to happen. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 23, 2018, 02:21:42 PM: Won't happen. Last time, and it's been many, I threatened to report Bosk to NO MA'AM (National Organization of Manly Avatar Abuse and Manipulation).

I may have to reach out to the Nor Cal Windshield Washing Mafia, so they may surround your cute little car and shower you with a tsunami of blue liquid!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 23, 2018, 02:34:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2018, 02:21:42 PM
Won't happen. Last time, and it's been many, I threatened to report Bosk to NO MA'AM (National Organization of Manly Avatar Abuse and Manipulation).

I may have to reach out to the Nor Cal Windshield Washing Mafia, so they may surround your cute little car and shower you with a tsunami of blue liquid!

You do know I know where you live, right? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 23, 2018, 02:53:06 PM: My friend, you are welcome anytime! :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 23, 2018, 02:55:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2018, 02:53:06 PM
My friend, you are welcome anytime! :)

Ditto my man.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 04:45:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2018, 02:21:42 PM
Won't happen. Last time, and it's been many, I threatened to report Bosk to NO MA'AM (National Organization of Manly Avatar Abuse and Manipulation).

I may have to reach out to the Nor Cal Windshield Washing Mafia, so they may surround your cute little car and shower you with a tsunami of blue liquid!

Al Bundy approves.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 23, 2018, 05:38:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 05:34:17 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 23, 2018, 02:50:42 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Slays what? Cotton balls?

This songs makes Winger sound like Testament.

Growlie Tim, what have you done with real Tim? Bring him back to us 😀

I quite like the new Tim actually.

While why don't the two of you go cuddle or something.

Me, Brent, JJ, and Lowder will take our receding hairlines and proudly park ourselves in the cool fogey lounge while you two go make your ears bleed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 06:39:42 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 23, 2018, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 05:34:17 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 23, 2018, 02:50:42 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Slays what? Cotton balls?

This songs makes Winger sound like Testament.

Growlie Tim, what have you done with real Tim? Bring him back to us 😀

I quite like the new Tim actually.

While why don't the two of you go cuddle or something.

Me, Brent, JJ, and Lowder will take our receding hairlines and proudly park ourselves in the cool fogey lounge while you two go make your ears bleed.

Fuck, I'm torn, my bald spot is pretty big now and things are pretty thin on top so I'm eligible for both I think.
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2018, 06:41:21 PM: There's plenty of room for all of us in the cool fogey lounge.

Cheers, brothers! :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 06:58:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2018, 06:41:21 PM
There's plenty of room for all of us in the cool fogey lounge.

Cheers, brothers! :tup

Sounds good. We'll just go and gate crash their party anyway Tim! :metal

ROOOAAARR!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 23, 2018, 07:19:40 PM: Is there such a thing as "dad metal" ? And , if so, why do you think it is called that? What bands would qualify? Why do I ask so many fucking questions ? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 07:36:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 23, 2018, 07:19:40 PM
Is there such a thing as "dad metal" ? And , if so, why do you think it is called that? What bands would qualify? Why do I ask so many fucking questions ? ;D

What do you think Brent?

Oh wait.....you're probably not gonna add thoughts to your own questions. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 23, 2018, 07:46:03 PM: Let's have a poll.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 24, 2018, 08:53:12 AM: What genre is dad metal?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 24, 2018, 09:14:02 AM: Poll question:

Should we subject TAC to continual pictures of Winger over a span of 14 days?

Option 1 - Hell yes
Option 2 - See option 1.

Great poll. I vote 1.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2018, 09:19:34 AM: Be that happiest two weeks of Wolfking's life!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 24, 2018, 10:58:54 AM: We should take a poll to see if we should take that poll
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 24, 2018, 03:37:20 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 23, 2018, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 05:34:17 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 23, 2018, 02:50:42 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Slays what? Cotton balls?

This songs makes Winger sound like Testament.

Growlie Tim, what have you done with real Tim? Bring him back to us 😀

I quite like the new Tim actually.

While why don't the two of you go cuddle or something.

Me, Brent, JJ, and Lowder will take our receding hairlines and proudly park ourselves in the cool fogey lounge while you two go make your ears bleed.

Fuck, I'm torn, my bald spot is pretty big now and things are pretty thin on top so I'm eligible for both I think.

If I recede any further I’ll have no hair on my arse either 😀
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Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2018, 05:28:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 24, 2018, 09:19:34 AM
Be that happiest two weeks of Wolfking's life!

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Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2018, 05:28:56 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 24, 2018, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 23, 2018, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 23, 2018, 05:34:17 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 23, 2018, 02:50:42 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 22, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Slays what? Cotton balls?

This songs makes Winger sound like Testament.

Growlie Tim, what have you done with real Tim? Bring him back to us 😀

I quite like the new Tim actually.

While why don't the two of you go cuddle or something.

Me, Brent, JJ, and Lowder will take our receding hairlines and proudly park ourselves in the cool fogey lounge while you two go make your ears bleed.

Fuck, I'm torn, my bald spot is pretty big now and things are pretty thin on top so I'm eligible for both I think.

If I recede any further I’ll have no hair on my arse either 😀

:rollin
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Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on October 26, 2018, 07:46:07 AM: Disappointing month:

Red Dragon Cartel...Jake has the tone, the dirt, the singer, but where are the songs ?

Fifth Angel...good sound, nice drumming. It's alright, but boring.

Haken...too early to judge, but two times through, it's leaving me cold.

Nordic Walking Union thingy....yawn...not that the first was any better.

Perhaps I'm not in the mood for kick ass heavy metal and should get back to some Winger. Peronally I'd welcome a new album. The last one Better Days Comin' is from 2014.
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Post by: Samsara on October 26, 2018, 10:46:22 AM: The Fifth Angel record is interesting. You may not know, but Ed (rhythm guitars) is not on the record at all, and he wrote 95 percent of the songs from the first two. Ed is in the band, and in the video, but he was on hiatus while they wrote and recorded this. It is really missing some of the tonal qualities of his playing, and certainly the way he crafts riffs and chord progressions (which is much different than Kendall).

Solid record, more modern for sure. But I'm looking forward to the fourth record, with them completely together.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2018, 12:47:14 PM: On the new Fifth Angel, Kendall sounds like a combination of Dio and Ripper Owens. So for me, that’s a major win.

Everything I’m hearing on The Third Secret sounds great. It’s definitely heavier than their previous albums and hopefully this isn’t a one and done. A live album would be cool too

I’m liking it a lot.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2018, 01:10:56 PM: Quote from: Heavy Metal Hippie on October 26, 2018, 07:46:07 AM
Perhaps I'm not in the mood for kick ass heavy metal and should get back to some Winger.

Woah woah woah dude. Let's not do anything hasty.

Quote from: Samsara on October 26, 2018, 10:46:22 AM
The Fifth Angel record is interesting. You may not know, but Ed (rhythm guitars) is not on the record at all, and he wrote 95 percent of the songs from the first two. Ed is in the band, and in the video, but he was on hiatus while they wrote and recorded this. It is really missing some of the tonal qualities of his playing, and certainly the way he crafts riffs and chord progressions (which is much different than Kendall).

I read this and I had to laugh. Poor guy waits 30 years to record the third album, and d'oh, he's on hiatus when it comes time to record.

(Of course, hopefully he wasn't ill...)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 26, 2018, 02:00:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 26, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
On the new Fifth Angel, Kendall sounds like a combination of Dio and Ripper Owens. So for me, that’s a major win.

Everything I’m hearing on The Third Secret sounds great. It’s definitely heavier than their previous albums and hopefully this isn’t a one and done. A live album would be cool too

I’m liking it a lot.

I like it too, its just very different for them. It was always going to be modern. I have heard Ed's songs that he's built up over the years. A bit crunchier than these, and I assume some of those ideas will be resurrected for the next record. I love Kendall's voice too. Most folks don't know this, but if you get James Byrd's Crimes of Virtuosity album (Byrd was Fifth Angel's lead guitarist on the very first record), Kendall sings lead vocals on that album under the name Kendall Tory. So check it out, if you haven't already.

Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2018, 01:10:56 PM

I read this and I had to laugh. Poor guy waits 30 years to record the third album, and d'oh, he's on hiatus when it comes time to record.

(Of course, hopefully he wasn't ill...)

He's fine. Personal stuff (and nothing crazy like rehab or anything like that). Just really bad timing. But they are all looking forward to having him writing/recording on the next one. The Third Secret is being very well received in Europe, so my guess is that is where they will concentrate their efforts. Makes sense. These guys aren't going to slug it out in the U.S. They'll probably play festivals and the occasional club gig in Seattle.

Overall, I'm really happy for them all. Been a long time, and a lot of start and stops. My hope is, on the fourth album, perhaps everyone in the Fifth Angel family (or as many as possible) can appear, including James Byrd. Hope so.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2018, 02:54:50 PM: Checking the Fifth Angel now on Spotify. Four songs in and Holy Dio, Batman! WOW!!

EDIT: Just finished. Damn, that is....solid. ;D

Those vocals are ridiculous. Seriously, other than the drumming, this sounds like 80's Dio, which is :metal in my book.

Album....PURCHASED!
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2018, 05:00:24 PM: Guess I need to revisit that one. I think I tried the singles when they were released, but didn't take too much notice. Guess I know what I'm listening to when I take the dogs for a walk in a few minutes.
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Post by: Samsara on October 27, 2018, 12:25:39 AM: Try the title track. It is my favorite.

TAC,

Cool!
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2018, 04:50:40 AM: Many thanks for the encouragement gents... that was a fantastic listen. Definitely purchase-worthy.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 27, 2018, 10:26:19 AM: Not had chance to listen yet but sounds like I need to. Don’t get this sort of consensus around here too often 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 27, 2018, 10:28:33 AM: Quote from: Samsara on October 27, 2018, 12:25:39 AM
Try the title track. It is my favorite.

Yes!!

Quote from: Samsara on October 27, 2018, 12:25:39 AM
TAC,

Cool!

Ya know, he really is! :D
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2018, 12:31:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2018, 10:26:19 AM
Not had chance to listen yet but sounds like I need to. Don’t get this sort of consensus around here too often 😀

Rite? I mean, you just posted The Astonishing in the 'what are ya listening to' thread. Not sure if you felt you needed punishment for some wrongdoing or something? That's the only reason I can see anyone needing to play that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 27, 2018, 05:24:29 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2018, 12:31:08 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2018, 10:26:19 AM
Not had chance to listen yet but sounds like I need to. Don’t get this sort of consensus around here too often 😀

Rite? I mean, you just posted The Astonishing in the 'what are ya listening to' thread. Not sure if you felt you needed punishment for some wrongdoing or something? That's the only reason I can see anyone needing to play that.

I really like it. I tend to try to disregard the story because that was complete bollox.
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2018, 05:58:05 PM: Having another run through of the Fifth Angel.

This is a great album. Loving the lead guitar playing. Not saying it's Michael Schenker, but it had great sense and tone. Reminds me of early Vivian Campbell.

Oh, and an excuse to post my pic with Ken Mary!

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Boston Garden

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Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2018, 04:02:05 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2018, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2018, 12:31:08 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2018, 10:26:19 AM
Not had chance to listen yet but sounds like I need to. Don’t get this sort of consensus around here too often 😀

Rite? I mean, you just posted The Astonishing in the 'what are ya listening to' thread. Not sure if you felt you needed punishment for some wrongdoing or something? That's the only reason I can see anyone needing to play that.

I really like it. I tend to try to disregard the story because that was complete bollox.

I never pass up the opportunity to agree with Chad when it comes to the Astonishing. The whole thing is abolute bollocks! But still glad people enjoy it I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2018, 04:03:11 AM: Quote from: Heavy Metal Hippie on October 26, 2018, 07:46:07 AM
Perhaps I'm not in the mood for kick ass heavy metal and should get back to some Winger. Peronally I'd welcome a new album. The last one Better Days Comin' is from 2014.

Welcome Mr Hippie! You are most welcome in this thread, enjoy your stay and please post anytime!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on October 28, 2018, 06:09:37 AM: You only want to exploit me against the Winger countermovement of this forum, right ?

Second time through the Fifth Angel was better. I didn't get the Dioesqueness (sp?). That perspective helped. It's heavy. It's cool, but I'm still missing a certain spark.

Talking about Dio: There was that Dream Child album. Released not too long ago featuring Craig Goldy, Simon Wright and Rudy Sarzo. They have a singer who comes very close to Dio. The songs of that album are not very good, but the guy can phrase and sound like Dio, it's unbelievable. What if Dio isn't dead and there is no hologram at all ?
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Post by: Podaar on October 28, 2018, 06:47:08 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2018, 05:58:05 PM

Oh, and an excuse to post my pic with Ken Mary!

In this photo it looks like Ken recently had a biopsy on his prostate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 28, 2018, 04:38:41 PM: Really enjoyed the Fifth Angel. That’s just how I like my metal.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2018, 07:56:44 PM: Gonna check out this Fifth Angel to see what all the fuss is about.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 28, 2018, 08:31:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 28, 2018, 07:56:44 PM
Gonna check out this Fifth Angel to see what all the fuss is about.

It's fussing awesome!! :lol :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2018, 09:01:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2018, 08:31:46 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 28, 2018, 07:56:44 PM
Gonna check out this Fifth Angel to see what all the fuss is about.

It's fussing awesome!! :lol :metal

I guess it doesn't help now that my expectations are really high.
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Post by: TAC on October 28, 2018, 09:14:10 PM: Kade, to me it's like listening to 80's Dio. The vocals are ridiculous.

My only two complaints are:
1. The chorus is weak in the first song, and
2. Ends on a wimper. Last song is the worst song.

But the rest of it rules!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2018, 10:48:39 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2018, 09:14:10 PM
Kade, to me it's like listening to 80's Dio. The vocals are ridiculous.

My only two complaints are:
1. The chorus is weak in the first song, and
2. Ends on a wimper. Last song is the worst song.

But the rest of it rules!

Will check it tonight.

I haven't heard a single thing of this album too so will be going in fresh. I didn't even check the songs released prior for some reason.

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Post by: Samsara on October 29, 2018, 07:52:22 AM: :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

Wolf for the win!
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2018, 10:36:57 AM: Wait 'til we get to page 300!
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2018, 10:51:41 AM: Kade, this is the Hard Rock Thread. Not the Rock Hard Thread! :natalieportman:
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2018, 11:10:13 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2018, 10:51:41 AM
Kade, this is the Hard Rock Thread. Not the Rock Hard Thread! :natalieportman:

Rock out with your cock out!!!
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Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2018, 03:27:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2018, 10:51:41 AM
Kade, this is the Hard Rock Thread. Not the Rock Hard Thread! :natalieportman:

Well Kip did pose for Playgirl I believe. 😜
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Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2018, 03:36:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2018, 10:51:41 AM
Kade, this is the Hard Rock Thread. Not the Rock Hard Thread! :natalieportman:

I know. Rock Hard Ride Free brother. Kip 4eva!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 29, 2018, 03:53:49 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 29, 2018, 03:36:59 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2018, 10:51:41 AM
Kade, this is the Hard Rock Thread. Not the Rock Hard Thread! :natalieportman:

I know. Rock Hard Ride Free brother. Kip 4eva!

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2018, 03:55:40 PM: :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2018, 04:09:43 PM: Nobody makes leather and whips look more cooler than Rob Halford :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2018, 04:29:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 29, 2018, 04:09:43 PM
Nobody makes leather and whips look more cooler than Rob Halford :metal

oh hell yeah baby!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2018, 05:14:51 PM: Quote from: Heavy Metal Hippie on October 28, 2018, 06:09:37 AM
Second time through the Fifth Angel was better. I didn't get the Dioesqueness (sp?). That perspective helped. It's heavy. It's cool, but I'm still missing a certain spark.

Really? I don't know how one could not think of Dio listening to this album. I've listened through it once and on my second spin now, up to Queen of Thieves. That song is brutal, that, the title track and I think End of Days or something are my favs so far.

The album does seem slightly short and ended quicker than I expected. But man, Kendall can sing and play. It was great to hear his lead playing and even only knowing him from Time Will Tell, his style and sound are instantly recognizable and sounds like Fifith Angel. Dunno if it's a home run yet, but a very strong album.
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Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on October 30, 2018, 07:25:54 AM: Yeah. It's super obvious.
Don't know why I didn't get it, but apart from the singing, I was hearing a strong Maiden influence.
Okay, how can I atone for that ? I guess listening to Holy Diver and The Last In Line should do it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 30, 2018, 08:15:14 AM: Kendall's vocals are indeed a cross between Dio and some other influences. I really like the record. I do think the rhythm guitars aren't as dynamic, but that'll change once Ed is on the next record. To me, The Third Secret is a nice restart to the band. I expect the next one to be the home run. Fingers-crossed. But am still enjoying this one and hope they do a warmup show again in Seattle.

I know there is a new NW Metal Festival scheduled for March 2. Bands yet to be announced, but I am pretty sure that Q5 is playing, so I am hoping with a new record, Fifth Angel headlines it.

p.s. I love the song We Will Rise. That solo is classic Kendall Bechtel.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2018, 03:55:25 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/stephen-pearcy-talks-new-ratt-music-well-get-a-new-tune-out-there-soon

Three words:

WHO FUCKING CARES?
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 04:17:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2018, 03:55:25 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/stephen-pearcy-talks-new-ratt-music-well-get-a-new-tune-out-there-soon

Three words:

WHO FUCKING CARES?

NOT FUCKING ME!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 04:34:41 PM: I just saw Eden's Curse has a best of coming out! WTF?!
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2018, 04:47:53 PM: A Best Of what?
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 05:07:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2018, 04:47:53 PM
A Best Of what?

:lol

I really like their first 4 albums but the last one was shit.
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 05:09:17 PM: I also saw Frontiers releasing an 'ultimate' Jorn boxset with all his albums, live albums and bonus stuff but doesn't include his debut album Starfire!!?

:rollin
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2018, 05:12:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2018, 04:47:53 PM
A Best Of what?

:lol

I really like their first 4 albums but the last one was shit.

Symphony of Sin. I dug that. Or did they have a release since then?
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 05:47:29 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 30, 2018, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2018, 04:47:53 PM
A Best Of what?

:lol

I really like their first 4 albums but the last one was shit.

Symphony of Sin. I dug that. Or did they have a release since then?

Their last one was called Carnival. Should be called Crapival.

Symphony of Sin might be my fav, that's a wonderful melodic rock album. Lots of songs but no real filler IMO and the vocals are awesome. I was so pumped for Crapival so was so let down.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 30, 2018, 06:27:57 PM: The new Fifth Angel is all kinds of awesome! It doesn’t sound much like the first two Fifth Angel albums, but it’s still a classic metal sounding album and the Dio vibe is constant throughout.

It’s not going to top Judas Priest for me, but there is no question it will be my second album of the year.

Also has anyone by chance checked out that Three Tremors album? I’ve been on the fence for that one
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2018, 06:31:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 05:09:17 PM
I also saw Frontiers releasing an 'ultimate' Jorn boxset with all his albums, live albums and bonus stuff but doesn't include his debut album Starfire!!?

:rollin

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 06:32:54 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 30, 2018, 06:27:57 PM
The new Fifth Angel is all kinds of awesome! It doesn’t sound much like the first two Fifth Angel albums, but it’s still a classic metal sounding album and the Dio vibe is constant throughout.

It’s not going to top Judas Priest for me, but there is no question it will be my second album of the year.

Also has anyone by chance checked out that Three Tremors album? I’ve been on the fence for that one

I forgot about that one. I'll try and get onto to that one Jason. I'm not expecting much from it though to be honest.
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 06:33:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2018, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 05:09:17 PM
I also saw Frontiers releasing an 'ultimate' Jorn boxset with all his albums, live albums and bonus stuff but doesn't include his debut album Starfire!!?

:rollin

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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 06:40:25 PM: I'm trying to catch up on releases new and ones that have gone past.

I tried listening to the second Almanac album and found it balnd, boring and generic with crappy melodies. Got halfway through.

Also tried the new Black Majesty but the production was so muddled and brickwalled that it's really hard to enjoy the songs. First couple of songs seemed pretty okay but production kills it. Roland Grapow should stick to songwriting and playing the guitar, not producing.

Checked out a bit of the latest Chris Caffery and while it seems like a step up on his last one, still couldn't be bothered getting through the whole thing.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2018, 06:43:06 PM: Quote from: Samsara on October 30, 2018, 08:15:14 AM
Kendall's vocals are indeed a cross between Dio and some other influences.

p.s. I love the song We Will Rise. That solo is classic Kendall Bechtel.

I hear some Ripper Owens. Not sure who influenced who...

I also love We Will Rise. That chorus is unreal.

Sam, since you're familiar with them, does Kendall cite Michael Schenker as an influence?

The beginning of Can You Hear Me reminds me a lot of Tales Of Mystery and the intro riff to Shame On You is CLASSIC Schenker.

The thing I love about Can You Hear Me is that when it begins, I automatically think "obligatory ballad" but it's a great tune. Again, I think the vocals are fantastic and take the song to another level.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 30, 2018, 06:48:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 06:40:25 PM

Checked out a bit of the latest Chris Caffery and while it seems like a step up on his last one, still couldn't be bothered getting through the whole thing.

I could barely hum a song from Caffery's solo stuff. Good guitarist etc......but without riding on the coat tails of the Oliva brothers , I'm not sure he would've made much of an impact in the songwriting stakes. I don't have everything he has done mind you .
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2018, 06:52:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 06:40:25 PM
I tried listening to the second Almanac album and found it balnd, boring and generic with crappy melodies. Got halfway through.

Also tried the new Black Majesty but the production was so muddled and brickwalled that it's really hard to enjoy the songs. First couple of songs seemed pretty okay but production kills it. Roland Grapow should stick to songwriting and playing the guitar, not producing.

Checked out a bit of the latest Chris Caffery and while it seems like a step up on his last one, still couldn't be bothered getting through the whole thing.

Almanac-Don't really know what all the hubbub was about their last one TBH. I had zero interest in the latest one.

Black Majesty-Haven't gotten around to it. It's not that I don't like them, but I kind of already know what I'm going to hear.

Chris Caffery -So I honestly don't know much about him other than he's in Savatage. Months ago, when his new album broke, I thought I'd give it a listen on Spotify with open ears. Holy shit did it blow. Talk about boring hard rock by numbers..
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 07:15:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 30, 2018, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 06:40:25 PM

Checked out a bit of the latest Chris Caffery and while it seems like a step up on his last one, still couldn't be bothered getting through the whole thing.

I could barely hum a song from Caffery's solo stuff. Good guitarist etc......but without riding on the coat tails of the Oliva brothers , I'm not sure he would've made much of an impact in the songwriting stakes. I don't have everything he has done mind you .

I do agree, although I quite liked his first two album. (Faces and God Damn War)

He definitely wouldn’t be able to make records if he wasn't in Savatage.
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 07:17:38 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2018, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 06:40:25 PM
I tried listening to the second Almanac album and found it balnd, boring and generic with crappy melodies. Got halfway through.

Also tried the new Black Majesty but the production was so muddled and brickwalled that it's really hard to enjoy the songs. First couple of songs seemed pretty okay but production kills it. Roland Grapow should stick to songwriting and playing the guitar, not producing.

Checked out a bit of the latest Chris Caffery and while it seems like a step up on his last one, still couldn't be bothered getting through the whole thing.

Almanac-Don't really know what all the hubbub was about their last one TBH. I had zero interest in the latest one.

Black Majesty-Haven't gotten around to it. It's not that I don't like them, but I kind of already know what I'm going to hear.

Chris Caffery -So I honestly don't know much about him other than he's in Savatage. Months ago, when his new album broke, I thought I'd give it a listen on Spotify with open ears. Holy shit did it blow. Talk about boring hard rock by numbers..

You are pretty much on the money mate. I thought the first Almanac was good but I think the novelty quickly wore off going into the second album.

Yeah the Black Majesty is the same thing yet again mate.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 30, 2018, 07:31:31 PM: I agree re Almanac. I rated the first one but the second was just a pale imitation of the first and quite disappointing.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2018, 07:33:35 PM: Ironically, I just listened to Tsar earlier tonight while walking the dogs. Great album. Their follow up... not so much. Bland and forgettable for sure.

New King Company album was very enjoyable. I enjoyed it more than the debut.

Agree on Black Majesty. Wasn't bad, but there was something missing to make it a good/great album.

What else... I really liked Manimal/Purgatoria; Dynazty was more of the usual - enjoyable, but not something I'm gonna go back to very often; ditto on Mob Rules.

That's about it for the bands worthy of this thread.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2018, 07:36:16 PM: Chad, you turned me on to Manimal, who I thought was great. I checked their new album and it blows big ass chunks.
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 08:02:15 PM: Even though I may get thrown out of here but I did pick up the new Vega and I think it's...........er, I guess I better take it elsewhere.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 30, 2018, 08:14:38 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 08:02:15 PM
Even though I may get thrown out of here but I did pick up the new Vega and I think it's...........er, I guess I better take it elsewhere.

I'm going elsewhere too - at least until I get visions of "big ass chunks" out of my head.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2018, 08:17:53 PM: :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on October 30, 2018, 08:19:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2018, 07:36:16 PM
Chad, you turned me on

:coolio :hat
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2018, 08:22:04 PM: :rollin

I fucking knew that was coming from some asshole. But I thought, nah, that's too easy.

:lol :lol

WTF are you doing in here anyway? ;D
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Post by: KevShmev on October 30, 2018, 08:22:49 PM: I'm the kind of asshole who takes the easy ones. :P
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 08:37:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 30, 2018, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 08:02:15 PM
Even though I may get thrown out of here but I did pick up the new Vega and I think it's...........er, I guess I better take it elsewhere.

I'm going elsewhere too - at least until I get visions of "big ass chunks" out of my head.

:lol

It has some really cool melodic rock songs on it even though it's pretty light. Although the solo are possibly some of the worst, shittiest and sloppiest guitar playing I've ever heard. How they all approved some of these solos is beyond me. I should send them an email. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2018, 09:41:00 PM: I kind of agree with Tim, going back to the Fifth Angel in regards to the last song. I don't think the last song is bad or anything, but Shame on You is the perfect 'second last' track on the album, but then the last song also sounds like a 'second last' song on an album. It needed something bigger to finish the album off IMO.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 31, 2018, 05:02:26 AM: Quote from: KevShmev on October 30, 2018, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2018, 07:36:16 PM
Chad, you turned me on

:coolio :hat

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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2018, 05:30:09 AM: You know a band has put out quality when a song released in 2018 can sum up and represent everything one likes in metal ie. Dust to Dust. Could become my song on the year.
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Post by: Samsara on October 31, 2018, 08:42:07 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2018, 05:30:09 AM
You know a band has put out quality when a song released in 2018 can sum up and represent everything one likes in metal ie. Dust to Dust. Could become my song on the year.

I was just thinking that tune is probably my third favorite, after the title track and We Will Rise.

Regarding my comment about the band in the other thread -- with everything those guys have gone through since first getting back together in late 2009, and all the starts and stops trying to make a new record, all the positivity surrounding it has really been appreciated. Trust me when I tell you, since 2009, then have gone through four different lead singer options, replacing and then re-replacing the drummer when Ken Mary came back, and then Ed took a hiatus, which then forced everyone else to come up with songs. And they weren't sure if Kendall's voice would work. They had started doing songs for what would become this record in 2010. I have those demos (and none of those ended up on the album). And it took eight years to really make it happen. To say they are elated that people are enjoying the record would be an understatement. A good boost of confidence as they play gigs (festivals mostly) next year, and do a follow-up album (featuring Ed in the mix again as well).
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 31, 2018, 01:25:53 PM: Dust to Dust is a fantastic song. And for me there is no filler on this disc.

The guys should be proud of this one and motivated to make more music.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 31, 2018, 02:03:28 PM: I really haven’t enjoyed much lately but the Fifth Angel is a real standout.
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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2018, 03:14:08 PM: Quote from: Samsara on October 31, 2018, 08:42:07 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 31, 2018, 05:30:09 AM
You know a band has put out quality when a song released in 2018 can sum up and represent everything one likes in metal ie. Dust to Dust. Could become my song on the year.

I was just thinking that tune is probably my third favorite, after the title track and We Will Rise.

Regarding my comment about the band in the other thread -- with everything those guys have gone through since first getting back together in late 2009, and all the starts and stops trying to make a new record, all the positivity surrounding it has really been appreciated. Trust me when I tell you, since 2009, then have gone through four different lead singer options, replacing and then re-replacing the drummer when Ken Mary came back, and then Ed took a hiatus, which then forced everyone else to come up with songs. And they weren't sure if Kendall's voice would work. They had started doing songs for what would become this record in 2010. I have those demos (and none of those ended up on the album). And it took eight years to really make it happen. To say they are elated that people are enjoying the record would be an understatement. A good boost of confidence as they play gigs (festivals mostly) next year, and do a follow-up album (featuring Ed in the mix again as well).

Do you have any connections with them mate?
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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2018, 04:15:14 PM: Just checked out this track from the Three Tremors;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_qEDLpOprM

Even though I think it made me lactose intolerant now, it's pretty rocking.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 31, 2018, 05:08:55 PM: Yeah that’s definitely a rocking tune. I’m leaning towards picking this one up
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Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2018, 05:18:09 PM: To me it sounds like most stuff that Peck has been involved in - straight ahead metal that is competent enough but lacking memorable passages and sounding like it was written from the same recipe book as a million other songs.

Stuff like this gives me an even better appreciation for what Priest achieved with Firepower (even though I would like to cut 2-3 tracks that I consider "filler")
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Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2018, 05:38:43 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2018, 05:18:09 PM
To me it sounds like most stuff that Peck has been involved in - straight ahead metal that is competent enough but lacking memorable passages and sounding like it was written from the same recipe book as a million other songs.

Stuff like this gives me an even better appreciation for what Priest achieved with Firepower (even though I would like to cut 2-3 tracks that I consider "filler")

It reminded me a little of Death Dealer but better with better production. I know what you are saying though Brent.

I spun Firepower the other day and it's still really good. I agree cutting a few tracks would almost make it classic. I'd go;

Firepower
Lightning Strikes
Evil Never Dies
Never the Heroes
Guardians
Rising From Ruins
Spectre
Traitors Gate
No Surrender
Sea of Red

One of Necromancer or Children of the Sun would probably go in as that's only 9 songs, probably Necromancer, I find both a little meh, but that track list there is killer. Short but no filler.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2018, 06:25:32 AM: So tickets for KISS go on sale next week ............for a concert in Novermber 2019 :eek

Is it just me or are ticket lead times getting bloody ridiculous? They now want to earn interest on your money per annum. I know we're talking KI$$ here but it's a trend across the board in recent years.
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Post by: TAC on November 01, 2018, 06:39:09 AM: That's crazy. Yes, this trend is nuts.

I saw two shows this year, Helloween and Michael Schenker, and tickets for each went on sale almost a year ahead of time.
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Post by: Samsara on November 01, 2018, 07:43:58 AM: Ok, so this is crazy. And I am not sure how it is going to sound either.

Fifth Angel is headlining the 9th annual Metal Assault Festival this coming February in Germany. Direct support on the bill? Geoff Tate's Operation: Mindcrime, which is playing a set of tunes from the EP through Rage for Order. I know they can downtune, but seriously, how the hell is Tate going to pull that off legitimately? He's singing better, but man. Of course, if I lived in Germany, I'd be there...
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Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2018, 11:47:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 01, 2018, 06:25:32 AM
So tickets for KISS go on sale next week ............for a concert in Novermber 2019 :eek

Is it just me or are ticket lead times getting bloody ridiculous? They now want to earn interest on your money per annum. I know we're talking KI$$ here but it's a trend across the board in recent years.

Just booked mine for July. Taking Mrs Lowdz for a romantic night away 😜
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Post by: Samsara on November 01, 2018, 02:50:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 01, 2018, 06:39:09 AM
That's crazy. Yes, this trend is nuts.

I saw two shows this year, Helloween and Michael Schenker, and tickets for each went on sale almost a year ahead of time.

The trend is out of hand, but I think its unfortunately necessary. There's so much competition in the marketplace, if you don't book ahead of time and market it, you'll lose sales to competing entertainment. Especially with expensive shows. I mean with KISS - those tickets are a big investment, and you want people to spend that cash, so you give them a ton of lead time to make sure nothing is on the calendar.
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Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2018, 02:50:31 PM: Quote from: Samsara on November 01, 2018, 07:43:58 AM
Ok, so this is crazy. And I am not sure how it is going to sound either.

Fifth Angel is headlining the 9th annual Metal Assault Festival this coming February in Germany. Direct support on the bill? Geoff Tate's Operation: Mindcrime, which is playing a set of tunes from the EP through Rage for Order. I know they can downtune, but seriously, how the hell is Tate going to pull that off legitimately? He's singing better, but man. Of course, if I lived in Germany, I'd be there...

Interesting that Fifth Angel are headlining with Tate supporting.

Yeah, hard to see them doing the early songs much justice at all.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 01, 2018, 04:39:47 PM: Tate has been sounding better recently so I guess this will be a test to see how he does. You can’t expect classic Tate but as long as he does a respectable job, that’s all you can ask. Will it happen, who knows but at least he is pulling out some of the metal songs people want to hear and making an effort to sing them.
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Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2018, 05:03:36 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 01, 2018, 04:39:47 PM
Tate has been sounding better recently so I guess this will be a test to see how he does. You can’t expect classic Tate but as long as he does a respectable job, that’s all you can ask. Will it happen, who knows but at least he is pulling out some of the metal songs people want to hear and making an effort to sing them.

I haven't checked out any live videos from him for a while, so I'm actually glad to hear that he has improved.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2018, 03:04:49 PM: Tate is playing 30 miles from me in a few weeks time. Might just have to go and see i& the voice is improved.

For anyone loving the new FFth Angel, the new one from Icarus Witch is worth a listen. Far better than solid. I’ve just bought it after listening on Spotify.
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Post by: TAC on November 06, 2018, 03:21:12 PM: I thought I dropped the needle on Icarus Witch. I'll give it a full on go tonight.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2018, 12:56:57 PM: Listened to the Red Dragon Cartel and it’s poor. Would be ok but the shit singer ruins it.
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Post by: TAC on November 07, 2018, 12:59:27 PM: Wasn't that the same description of the first album? :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 07, 2018, 01:20:03 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 07, 2018, 12:56:57 PM
Listened to the Red Dragon Cartel and it’s poor. Would be ok but the shit singer ruins it.

Don't like Darren Smith on the mic?
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Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2018, 04:39:28 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 07, 2018, 01:20:03 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 07, 2018, 12:56:57 PM
Listened to the Red Dragon Cartel and it’s poor. Would be ok but the shit singer ruins it.

Don't like Darren Smith on the mic?

No. Awful. I was looking forward to the return of Jake but it hasn’t been worth it.
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Post by: Grappler on November 07, 2018, 07:37:34 PM: Came across this video a few weeks ago and have been hooked - these girls rock! All female metal band from Switzerland:

Burning Witches: Hexenhammer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OCmwMFKDlE
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Post by: TAC on November 07, 2018, 07:41:17 PM: I literally saw that video this afternoon.

The singer sounds like Mike Howe....with a wig.
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Post by: TAC on November 08, 2018, 01:50:33 PM: So I was listening to the Fifth Angel album today, which may crack the 2018 Top 5, and I couldn't help but crave some actual Dio.

I thought I'd pull out The Devil You Know. I believe Dio was fantastic on this, his last album. However.....this album blows. It's a f'n plodothon on par with Angry Machines. What suckage. It's like they had no real interest in actually making an album.

I like Bible Black and Neverwhere, but this has to be one on my least favorite Dio related albums. EASILY.
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Post by: Samsara on November 08, 2018, 01:57:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 08, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
So I was listening to the Fifth Angel album today, which may crack the 2018 Top 5, and I couldn't help but crave some actual Dio.

I thought I'd pull out The Devil You Know. I believe Dio was fantastic on this, his last album. However.....this album blows. It's a f'n plodothon on par with Angry Machines. What suckage. It's like they had no real interest in actually making an album.

I like Bible Black and Neverwhere, but this has to be one on my least favorite Dio related albums. EASILY.

I was never high on The Devil You Know. If memory serves, the three new studio tracks on Black Sabbath: The Dio Years, which came out before that, were superior to The Devil You Know in every regard. Been awhile since I listened to that stuff though.
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2018, 02:24:45 PM: Quote from: Samsara on November 08, 2018, 01:57:07 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 08, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
So I was listening to the Fifth Angel album today, which may crack the 2018 Top 5, and I couldn't help but crave some actual Dio.

I thought I'd pull out The Devil You Know. I believe Dio was fantastic on this, his last album. However.....this album blows. It's a f'n plodothon on par with Angry Machines. What suckage. It's like they had no real interest in actually making an album.

I like Bible Black and Neverwhere, but this has to be one on my least favorite Dio related albums. EASILY.

I was never high on The Devil You Know. If memory serves, the three new studio tracks on Black Sabbath: The Dio Years, which came out before that, were superior to The Devil You Know in every regard. Been awhile since I listened to that stuff though.

They were. Those extra tracks were great. I don't even remember much from TDYK, never thought it was that good either, which is a shame.
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Post by: TAC on November 08, 2018, 02:56:16 PM: Quote from: Samsara on November 08, 2018, 01:57:07 PM
If memory serves, the three new studio tracks on Black Sabbath: The Dio Years, which came out before that, were superior to The Devil You Know in every regard.

Quote from: wolfking on November 08, 2018, 02:24:45 PM
They were. Those extra tracks were great.

Huh.. Must've been a huge oversight on my part. I don't have copies of these tracks. Just bought the digital tracks.
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Post by: Samsara on November 08, 2018, 03:00:08 PM: Just put on those three tracks now. Good shit.
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Post by: Podaar on November 08, 2018, 03:22:54 PM: My thought is that Tim would like Ear In The Wall, but would think The Devil Cried and Shadow Of The Wind blows because of their plodding riffs.
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Post by: TAC on November 08, 2018, 03:29:28 PM: Quote from: Podaar on November 08, 2018, 03:22:54 PM
My thought is that Tim would like Ear In The Wall, but would think The Devil Cried and Shadow Of The Wind blows because of their plodding riffs.

Dude, it's like you're in my living room listening along with me! :lol

Yes the plodding of the first two songs is a challenge to get through. I just don't like my music that way. The Devil Cried has a great solo which makes it palatable, and I love the mellower part in Shadow where Dio shines.

And hell yes Ear In The Wall :metal But that solo is wretched. :lol
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Post by: Samsara on November 08, 2018, 03:41:45 PM: As I was listening to Ear in the Wall, I was thinking -- Tim will love this one. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2018, 03:51:09 PM: Ear was the one I knew Tim would dig also.
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Post by: TAC on November 08, 2018, 03:57:45 PM: (https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/health-beauty-predictable-predictableness-therapists-shrink-boring-jwhn429_low.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2018, 08:24:55 PM: Oh yeah;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xPrwiXVE74
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Post by: TAC on November 08, 2018, 08:29:46 PM: That looks fantastic.
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2018, 09:11:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 08, 2018, 08:29:46 PM
That looks fantastic.

Yeah man, I've been waiting for this for years now. Hopefully not too many overdubs, or at least sloppy noticeable ones anyway. Seemed pretty on point from that trailer though.
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Post by: TAC on November 11, 2018, 06:34:00 AM: These guys look like clowns,

(https://image-ticketfly.imgix.net/00/02/90/79/45-og.jpg?w=600&h=400)
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Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2018, 02:53:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 11, 2018, 06:34:00 AM
These guys look like clowns,

(https://image-ticketfly.imgix.net/00/02/90/79/45-og.jpg?w=600&h=400)

I thought this was Whitesnake at first with Coverdale turning into a combo of Hagar and Snider. Deen could use this photo for his next mugshot pic too.

They need bigger scarfs too. They aren't big enough.
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Post by: TAC on November 11, 2018, 02:56:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 11, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
Coverdale turning into a combo of Hagar and Snider.

:rollin

I totally see it!
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 11, 2018, 03:04:03 PM: If not for Google Picture search, I would've had zero idea who this "badasses" were.
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Post by: Samsara on November 14, 2018, 08:16:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 11, 2018, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 11, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
Coverdale turning into a combo of Hagar and Snider.

:rollin

I totally see it!

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

Nailed it.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2018, 10:34:43 AM: So, the Ten album.

It’s a Ten album 😀
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2018, 01:01:09 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 14, 2018, 10:34:43 AM
So, the Ten album.

It’s a Ten album 😀

So it’s actually a Five? ;D
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Post by: Samsara on November 14, 2018, 01:05:00 PM: What? I was listening to "Jeremy" and didn't hear you.

Am I off here?
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2018, 03:02:38 PM: Quote from: Samsara on November 14, 2018, 01:05:00 PM
What? I was listening to "Jeremy" and didn't hear you.

Am I off here?

Such a classic album.
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2018, 03:03:14 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 14, 2018, 10:34:43 AM
So, the Ten album.

It’s a Ten album 😀

I'll try and check it out on the weekend. The first song I heard though was pretty meh. I liked the last one so I kind of have some expectations for this one.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 03:46:41 PM: https://youtu.be/Cg1gzFPAhcM

First track from the Ripper Owens, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder project. I’m really not a fan of Rippers voice. Underwhelmed.
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Post by: Podaar on November 15, 2018, 04:38:25 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
https://youtu.be/Cg1gzFPAhcM

First track from the Ripper Owens, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder project. I’m really not a fan of Rippers voice. Underwhelmed.

During the chorus, sing "I'm your Turbo Lover/Tell me there's no other" over the top of Ripper's lyrics! :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 04:46:47 PM: Quote from: Podaar on November 15, 2018, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
https://youtu.be/Cg1gzFPAhcM

First track from the Ripper Owens, Chris Caffery, Mark Zonder project. I’m really not a fan of Rippers voice. Underwhelmed.

During the chorus, sing "I'm your Turbo Lover/Tell me there's no other" over the top of Ripper's lyrics! :lol

I didn’t realise when I posted there is a discussion on 5his in the AOR thread
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Post by: Podaar on November 15, 2018, 04:49:00 PM: I don't see the thread you're mentioning, Lowdz.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 04:50:03 PM: Quote from: Podaar on November 15, 2018, 04:49:00 PM
I don't see the thread you're mentioning, Lowdz.

The official Frontiers factory thread
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Post by: Podaar on November 15, 2018, 04:51:38 PM: Oh, is that what that thread is about? AOR? :lol

I totally forgot what it was originally started for...the title has changed so much.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 04:57:23 PM: Quote from: Podaar on November 15, 2018, 04:51:38 PM
Oh, is that what that thread is about? AOR? :lol

I totally forgot what it was originally started for...the title has changed so much.

True. 😀
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2018, 05:08:22 PM: Quote from: Podaar on November 15, 2018, 04:51:38 PM
Oh, is that what that thread is about? AOR? :lol

I totally forgot what it was originally started for...the title has changed so much.

The thread from the start to where it is currently is like a timeline on the decline of the current modern day AOR as we know it. It should be referenced and go down in history in any music encyclopedia when it comes to AOR and melodic rock. The people involved in the thread and their views and opinions defines the state and fall of the genre, nothing else is needed for reference.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 15, 2018, 06:45:35 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
I’m really not a fan of Rippers voice. Underwhelmed.

Ripper still has the screams but his lower register seems to have lost a fair bit - a bit like Barnesy (for you Aussies). Could be the mix but I thought the non-screamo sections were lacking a bit.
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2018, 07:47:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 15, 2018, 06:45:35 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
I’m really not a fan of Rippers voice. Underwhelmed.

Ripper still has the screams but his lower register seems to have lost a fair bit - a bit like Barnesy (for you Aussies). Could be the mix but I thought the non-screamo sections were lacking a bit.

It was hard to tell it was Owens, honestly.

I wouldn't say I was underwhelmed in anyway. I would definitely give this album a listen. I actually kinda liked it. I mean, if this is the best song on the album, that'd be disappointing, but It wasn't bad at all.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2018, 11:14:13 AM: I see there is a 5 disc box set due from Virgin Steele, a couple of reissued albums a new album and some re-recorded tracks in an orchestral style. I had a read on their website, there’s a write up about it from David Defeis and I have to say he sounds absolutely insane. It sounds exactly like schizophrenic patients write - stream of consciousness bollocks - when they are really ill 😬

I’ll certainly give the albums a listen when they make it to Spotify as he can write a killer tune when he puts his mind to it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 22, 2018, 01:31:47 PM: David Defeis definitely comes across as a strange cat. But I will say, most of the Virgin Steele albums have been reissued with tons of extra tracks. Thats what reissues should be like.
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Post by: Art on November 22, 2018, 01:34:05 PM: I like Virgin Steele, but yeah, David Defeis seems to be pretty out there :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2018, 03:04:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 22, 2018, 01:31:47 PM
David Defeis definitely comes across as a strange cat. But I will say, most of the Virgin Steele albums have been reissued with tons of extra tracks. Thats what reissues should be like.

Yeah, the reissues I've picked up have been well worth the purchases. I'll look into this box set for sure.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2018, 01:09:46 AM: I’ve always thought that his musical vision was ahead of his talents as a singer and the albums suffered under production that couldn’t do justice to the vision. If he had written for ManowaR, we’d be talking 🤘. Eric Adams would have been awesome on his stuff.

But yes, he’s done reissues the right way.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2018, 03:56:40 PM: Just on my way home from seeing Geoff Tate at a pub in Blackpool. Have to say his voice was surprisingly good. Ok, so it’s not 1990 good, perfectly acceptable. Very enjoyable gig. His band were note perfect.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 23, 2018, 06:21:02 PM: How was the setlist?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2018, 10:27:44 PM: Speaking of ageing singers - I'm not the biggest Maiden fanboy but even I must admit that Bruce is fucking amazing here for his vintage (or even forgetting his age) - good job on the multicam bootleg vid too!

https://youtu.be/t-bHb4dIVMI?t=86
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Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2018, 03:37:07 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 23, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
How was the setlist?

Short.

It was the whole of Mindcrime plus Best I Can, Silent Lucidity, Empire andJet City Woman.

Although the place was small and Geoff admitted it was probably the smallest gig he’d played, he seemed to enjoy it and he did not come across as at all douchy. There was probably a couple of hundred people there and the reaction was great.
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Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2018, 03:24:54 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 23, 2018, 10:27:44 PM
Speaking of ageing singers - I'm not the biggest Maiden fanboy but even I must admit that Bruce is fucking amazing here for his vintage (or even forgetting his age) - good job on the multicam bootleg vid too!

https://youtu.be/t-bHb4dIVMI?t=86

Wish I had time to watch the full thing. First two songs were crackers and a mighty setlist too. Bruce does sound pretty fucking good too. He's hitting highs he's hasn't attempted for years. Gods amongst men.
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Post by: Samsara on November 26, 2018, 08:39:06 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 24, 2018, 03:37:07 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 23, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
How was the setlist?

Short.

It was the whole of Mindcrime plus Best I Can, Silent Lucidity, Empire andJet City Woman.

Although the place was small and Geoff admitted it was probably the smallest gig he’d played, he seemed to enjoy it and he did not come across as at all douchy. There was probably a couple of hundred people there and the reaction was great.

Yup, that's the set we got here in the U.S. Glad he sounded good and you had a good time. I think those venues are what Tate is going to be doing, particularly now. When I saw him acoustically in 2017, he played for a crowd of less than 30 people, so if it was smaller than that. Wow.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2018, 11:15:35 PM: https://yadi.sk/d/7H7xuIZ-zRG6NA

The link above is to a new show I have done for you guys. Things have been quiet on the podcast front for a few reasons - my piss poor personal situation and lotsa roulettes on constantly being among them.

Having said that I have been doing plenty of work very gradually in the background and have another 3 shows in the can to drip feed you through the holidays.

The show I am giving you first is something we haven't done in a while - a regular length show with no real theme which is so much easier to put together and more fun for me to be honest. There is a feature band at the end too.

Oh.............and let me know what you think of our new intro/bumper. ;) Ben called in his contacts and pulled off a little coup for us
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Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2018, 03:51:48 AM: Boom!

I should have some more time to myself over the weekend, so I'll get my ears around this.

Hope things pick up mate, we appreciate you doing these for us considering. You're a legend! (And Ben, of course)
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2018, 04:41:03 AM: The intro kicks all kinds of ass!!! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Post by: Bolsters on November 28, 2018, 04:45:17 AM: Downloaded, will check it out eventually. I'm pretty far behind on these podcasts I think. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2018, 04:52:30 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on November 28, 2018, 04:45:17 AM
Downloaded, will check it out eventually. I'm pretty far behind on these podcasts I think. :lol

Join the club - been over a year since the last one :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2018, 04:53:54 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 28, 2018, 04:41:03 AM
The intro kicks all kinds of ass!!! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

:2metal:

thanks :)
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Post by: Evermind on November 28, 2018, 05:47:44 AM: Hopefully you guys didn't plan to send any of that in my next roulette... downloading right now.
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2018, 06:31:39 AM: Nice!! Will download when I get home from work!!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2018, 02:46:25 PM: Thanks for the interest guys - it seems the ideal gap between shows might be a year ;D Eighteen downloads so far so we have a few lurkers on board too.

As per usual the link is also in the OP along with a link to a track list.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2018, 03:12:39 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 28, 2018, 02:46:25 PM
it seems the ideal gap between shows might be a year

Fuck that noise!

Excellent show - I added up 5 bands/acts on the 'check it out' list. Very much liked the feature act (Chity can be hit-and-miss for me.... here it was a hit).

Salty Dawg!! :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on November 28, 2018, 04:04:48 PM: Quote from: Samsara on November 26, 2018, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 24, 2018, 03:37:07 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 23, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
How was the setlist?

Short.

It was the whole of Mindcrime plus Best I Can, Silent Lucidity, Empire andJet City Woman.

Although the place was small and Geoff admitted it was probably the smallest gig he’d played, he seemed to enjoy it and he did not come across as at all douchy. There was probably a couple of hundred people there and the reaction was great.

Yup, that's the set we got here in the U.S. Glad he sounded good and you had a good time. I think those venues are what Tate is going to be doing, particularly now. When I saw him acoustically in 2017, he played for a crowd of less than 30 people, so if it was smaller than that. Wow.

There was certainly a couple of hundred people there but maybe he was referring to the actual venue rather than the crowd.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 28, 2018, 04:05:17 PM: Yay, a new podcast! Will download soon.
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Post by: TAC on November 28, 2018, 05:58:01 PM: Brent, first off, it's great to hear you. Really missed the shows.

And that opening!!!! Way to go Ben!!

"A massive international audience of about 10 people" :lol

"You're the most amazing guy" :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2018, 08:33:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 28, 2018, 02:46:25 PM
Thanks for the interest guys - it seems the ideal gap between shows might be a year ;D Eighteen downloads so far so we have a few lurkers on board too.

As per usual the link is also in the OP along with a link to a track list.

I haven't downloaded yet so at least 19.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 29, 2018, 04:43:20 PM: Downloaded and on a usb stick for the car :metal. Move over 1984, the Brent and B3n show is in town :D
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Post by: Samsara on November 29, 2018, 05:44:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 27, 2018, 11:15:35 PM
https://yadi.sk/d/7H7xuIZ-zRG6NA

The link above is to a new show I have done for you guys. Things have been quiet on the podcast front for a few reasons - my piss poor personal situation and lotsa roulettes on constantly being among them.

Having said that I have been doing plenty of work very gradually in the background and have another 3 shows in the can to drip feed you through the holidays.

The show I am giving you first is something we haven't done in a while - a regular length show with no real theme which is so much easier to put together and more fun for me to be honest. There is a feature band at the end too.

Oh.............and let me know what you think of our new intro/bumper. ;) Ben called in his contacts and pulled off a little coup for us

Downloaded. I'm a virgin to this. KISS is scary to me. :lol

Add me to the international downloaders. Gonna check it out.
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2018, 05:55:07 PM: Sam, the other podcasts are in the OP. You will not be sorry.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 29, 2018, 06:09:44 PM: Quote from: Samsara on November 29, 2018, 05:44:20 PM

Downloaded. I'm a virgin to this. KISS is scary to me. :lol

Add me to the international downloaders. Gonna check it out.

Awesome Brian - the more the merrier. I really just bluff my way along and do the best I can with some very basic equipment - the payback for me is you guys enjoying a show containing music that you can't get anywhere else on the radio. Each show has its classic material but the main goal is some new discoveries - a roulette without all the work :)

We're up to 25 downloads now which is awesome..............for a show that gets no promotion outside of this thread.

I am having a listen to the belated Best of 2017 shows as we speak - will get at least one of those shows out before Christmas too.

If you do go back into the older shows I think the first 3-4 suffered a bit sound wise as I gradually figured out the quirks of the software . I had meant to go back and "remaster" those shows and never got around to it. Happy to tidy up the sound on any of those earlier shows if anyone needs me to.
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2018, 06:13:42 PM: Brent, I'm only through the first half hour or so, but I wanted to echo your sentiments on Ozzmosis. I rank that as my 4th fave Ozzy album after Diary, Blizzard, and BATM.
You picked a great tune. See You On The Other Side is one of his best.

My Top 5 Ozzy songs are:
1. Diary Of A Madman
2. Waiting For Darkness
3. Mr. Crowley ;D
4. See You On The Other Side
5. Over The Mountain
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Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2018, 06:36:51 PM: I always really liked Ozzmosis too. Never understood the negativity for it.
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Post by: ozzy554 on November 29, 2018, 07:20:33 PM: I've never liked the production on Ozzmosis but the album itself I really like. Tomorrow is one of my favorite Ozzy tracks that nobody ever brings up. Old L.A Tonight as well is criminally underrated imo.
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2018, 07:23:56 PM: The production is brutal on Ozzmosis, but damn, those songs stand up.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 29, 2018, 07:25:47 PM: My Jekyll Doesn't Hide and Thunder Underground... :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on November 29, 2018, 07:29:16 PM: Who let you in here? ;D
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Post by: Grappler on November 30, 2018, 05:19:23 AM: Ozzmosis kicks ass. I've always loved that album - I remember being 15 when it came out and it was the first time a new Ozzy album had been released since I became a fan. Such awesome songs on that album.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 30, 2018, 11:37:47 AM: Well I was enjoying that until the usb stick died. You killed it with the awesome Lord track as it gave up the ghost after the next track.
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2018, 03:46:05 AM: First time I look at Blabbermouth for a very long time and I read this;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rage-against-the-machine-bassist-confirms-split-with-wife-i-am-saddened-to-announce-our-divorce/

lol wut?
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2018, 03:56:17 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 30, 2018, 11:37:47 AM
Well I was enjoying that until the usb stick died. You killed it with the awesome Lord track as it gave up the ghost after the next track.

As a big Lord fan, that track is a nice one. I agree with Brent that the 25 minute epic had me excited but I was underwhelmed. Maybe revisiting might help. Was just listening to the redone A Personal Journey the other day, great album.

I really liked that Def Leppard song. I need to really go and check their earlier stuff it seems. I just have always been put off by their late 80's hits. That and guitar wise, they have nothing.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2018, 04:40:39 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 01, 2018, 03:56:17 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 30, 2018, 11:37:47 AM
Well I was enjoying that until the usb stick died. You killed it with the awesome Lord track as it gave up the ghost after the next track.

As a big Lord fan, that track is a nice one. I agree with Brent that the 25 minute epic had me excited but I was underwhelmed. Maybe revisiting might help. Was just listening to the redone A Personal Journey the other day, great album.

I really liked that Def Leppard song. I need to really go and check their earlier stuff it seems. I just have always been put off by their late 80's hits. That and guitar wise, they have nothing.

High n dry is a great album.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2018, 06:25:56 AM: Yeah Kade, you need to give High n Dry a dedicated listen at some point. Honestly, it's one of the most influential albums musically for me. I know Pyromania gets most of the love, but HnD is a lot heavier. Honestly, one of my favorite albums of all time.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 01, 2018, 09:03:43 AM: Let It Go might be the quintessential hard rock tune.
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Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2018, 06:46:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2018, 06:25:56 AM
Yeah Kade, you need to give High n Dry a dedicated listen at some point. Honestly, it's one of the most influential albums musically for me. I know Pyromania gets most of the love, but HnD is a lot heavier. Honestly, one of my favorite albums of all time.

I have tried Pyromania a couple of times and was impressed, even though it didn't quite stick so I will definitely have to try HnD.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2018, 07:02:49 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 01, 2018, 06:46:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2018, 06:25:56 AM
Yeah Kade, you need to give High n Dry a dedicated listen at some point. Honestly, it's one of the most influential albums musically for me. I know Pyromania gets most of the love, but HnD is a lot heavier. Honestly, one of my favorite albums of all time.

I have tried Pyromania a couple of times and was impressed, even though it didn't quite stick so I will definitely have to try HnD.

HnD was before Phil Collen and his sixpack joined the band , so it is different in terms of personnel too. Pete Willis on guitar with Steve Clark
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2018, 07:49:35 PM: Right. Pete Willis also had a 6 pack too....of beer.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 01, 2018, 11:24:23 PM: The first three Def Leppard albums are awesome. They definitely are straight up hard rock/metal and it would be a close between High N Dry and Pyromania for my favorite from DL. I have Hysteria and I also like that one, but the sound it clearly changing with that one. I have almost no interest in any of the post Hysteria albums.

Also just saw Fozzy live. If you ever get a chance to see them I would recommend it as they put on a great live show!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 02, 2018, 12:07:30 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 01, 2018, 11:24:23 PM
The first three Def Leppard albums are awesome. They definitely are straight up hard rock/metal and it would be a close between High N Dry and Pyromania for my favorite from DL. I have Hysteria and I also like that one, but the sound it clearly changing with that one. I have almost no interest in any of the post Hysteria albums.

Ditto to that pretty much - aside from the odd song here and there I have no real interest post Hysteria.

I saw Bon Jovi last night with 60,000 other poor sods at the MCG ....Zzzzzzzzzzz (and his voice is shot with a capital S ) . But he's one of those guys who just has to flash a smile and the crown forgives all. I knew what I was in for but Ben wanted to see them as he likes some of their early stuff and I got the tickets for free . Unfortunately they didn't play the songs Ben wanted to hear (Runaway, Tokyo Road, Let It Rock etc...)....in fact nothing at all pre-SWW.

Having seen Bon Jovi gives me a real appreciation for Def Leppard/Europe and how they are sounding (and still rocking) at their age. The only guys in Bon Jovi with any sort of rockstar left in them are Tico Torres and Phil X . Must make it hard to feel "rocking" when you've got backing singers and bongos/tambourines going next to you :)
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Post by: Lowdz on December 02, 2018, 01:39:47 AM: Yeah, having seen BJ in their glory days I don’t think I’d bother even for free. They haven’t rocked in a long time.

In regards to Def Lep, I like the first five - Adrenalize was decent but certainly not a patch on what had gone before.

Nothing much of interest after that one though
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2018, 02:59:51 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 01, 2018, 11:24:23 PM
Also just saw Fozzy live. If you ever get a chance to see them I would recommend it as they put on a great live show!

I wouldn't have guessed you'd be the type of guy to go and watch stand up comedy j. Waka Waka!!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/867327742689333248/rW9bRT5p_400x400.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2018, 03:04:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2018, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 01, 2018, 06:46:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2018, 06:25:56 AM
Yeah Kade, you need to give High n Dry a dedicated listen at some point. Honestly, it's one of the most influential albums musically for me. I know Pyromania gets most of the love, but HnD is a lot heavier. Honestly, one of my favorite albums of all time.

I have tried Pyromania a couple of times and was impressed, even though it didn't quite stick so I will definitely have to try HnD.

HnD was before Phil Collen and his sixpack joined the band , so it is different in terms of personnel too. Pete Willis on guitar with Steve Clark

Now reading this does interset me. Phil really should have worked on his guitar playing as much as he did his washboard stomach. His guitar playing has always been so lackluster.
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2018, 03:12:54 AM: I thank you Brent for crossing my path in life to introduce me to Shades of Art. That is indeed an amazing album.
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Post by: Samsara on December 03, 2018, 08:16:29 AM: Not sure this qualifies as classic metal, but because TSO is basically what evolved from Savatage, I thought it fit.

So over the weekend, we went to TSO. We had floor seats, next to the soundboard. We get to our seats, about 45 minutes before the show is supposed to start, and a man comes up to us from TSO (I assume a road manager or someone), and asked if our daughter would like to take the final bow with the band at the end of the show. My daughter says absolutely (she's 10) and the guy tells us TSO doesn't do it all the time, and a lot of the time, the kids asked are too shy. So he says he'll come get us right before the last song.

After the second to last song, here he comes, and we walk over to the side of the stage (front row, all the way on the side), and says he'll come and get my daughter and walk her up the stairs to the band, and just to do what that man (he points to Al) tells her to do. She walks up, Al has her go out in front of the entire line of the band with Andrew Ross, and hold up a great TSO guitar, for all the applause. THen she walks back to the middle of the line, they all take the bow (my wife and I are now front row, taking pictures), and we walk back over to side stage. Andrew Ross then stops my daughter and says hold on, and takes the guitar that she held up (which he played during the final song), and says "this is for you!" It's a Paul O'Neil custom TSO ESP Limited, signed by the entire TSO band. Andrew played it, so it was actually used in the show. I stop him and was just flabbergasted. I was like "are you sure? Really?" and he says yes, and Merry Christmas.

So, my daughter now has an incredible signed guitar we're going to have put in a plastic case (Andrew gave her a custom guitar bag, but its just material, I need a display case) and hung in the den.

Talk about making her day, and something she'll remember (as will we) forever.

I'd include pictures, but I don't have any without my daughter in them, so I'd prefer not to put them on a public forum. But it was really, really special.
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2018, 08:22:50 AM: Wow that is amazing!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2018, 08:38:22 AM: So f'n cool!!!
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Post by: Lowdz on December 03, 2018, 10:51:37 AM: :o

That is awesome.
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Post by: Samsara on December 03, 2018, 11:14:40 AM: Thanks guys. It was a pretty amazing night.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2018, 02:30:09 PM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2018, 02:38:54 PM: Holy shit, that's just superb!!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 04, 2018, 02:36:26 AM: Wow, that's cool, definitely cool and awesome. :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Samsara on December 04, 2018, 07:59:35 AM: Thanks again. Apparently it was a big deal in my daughter's class yesterday. :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2018, 08:40:02 AM: As is should be. She wins Show n Tell hands down! Actually horns up!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2018, 02:57:20 PM: Nice work :2metal:
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Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on December 06, 2018, 07:46:22 AM: Walking with my dogs through the forest about an hour ago, out of the blue, I somehow remembered, how I was browsing the metal section of my favorite record store (run by an enthusiast, not by a chain).

I was superstitious regarding not to listen to an album before purchasing it, to not spoil the surprise and to make sure i'm giving it the dedication a work of art deserves (headphones and time).

So I bought two or three albums because the cover art was promising. One of these albums was:

(https://www.audiophileusa.com/covers400water/34510.jpg)

I showed it to my father and he was really concerned that his son turned to a satanist and his life was doomed.
You are getting bro-fisted by todays parents for the same behaviour.

By the way: New Metal Church is kinda released. Will listen to it tonight. If it's on the same level as the last one:
:metal
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Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on December 07, 2018, 05:49:36 AM: Unfortunatley the new Metal Church is clipping like crazy, even more than the last Megadeth. That makes it almost unlistenable for me. Sad because the music under the noise is very cool. If sombody should purchase the album and it doesn't clip, it would be nice to let me know.
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2018, 02:07:19 PM: Another Starbreaker song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmF0cZZsL2g

This is a very good classy ballad if you ask me, and Tony sounds great.
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2018, 02:13:35 PM: The Metal Church was in my box when I got home today. Checked out the new DT track and the two new Flotsam & Jetsam tracks first.

New Flots out in January. Can't wait!!
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Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on December 07, 2018, 04:29:43 PM: I'm looking forward to the Starbreaker album.
I've only played their previous release one time, maybe I should give it another spin. My favorite -outside of TNT- Tony Harnell album is the first Westworld.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 07, 2018, 04:34:46 PM: Quote from: Heavy Metal Hippie on December 07, 2018, 04:29:43 PM
I'm looking forward to the Starbreaker album.
I've only played their previous release one time, maybe I should give it another spin. My favorite -outside of TNT- Tony Harnell album is the first Westworld.

There are three previous releases arentrhere?
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2018, 04:35:41 PM: So I just got through the Metal Church.

Now I love Mike Howe era Metal Church. I liked the last album, XI. So it pains me to say this, but Damned If You Do kind of blows. That's my initial impression. I won't give up on it easily, but jeez, there's not much even remotely interesting going on.

The last track, The War Electric was pretty cool though.
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2018, 04:38:27 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 07, 2018, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Heavy Metal Hippie on December 07, 2018, 04:29:43 PM
I'm looking forward to the Starbreaker album.
I've only played their previous release one time, maybe I should give it another spin. My favorite -outside of TNT- Tony Harnell album is the first Westworld.

There are three previous releases arentrhere?

There's been two Starbreaker albums. The debut self titled and Love's Dying Wish.
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2018, 04:39:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 07, 2018, 02:13:35 PM
The Metal Church was in my box

(https://media.giphy.com/media/asHT7eh4AwG9G/200.gif)
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2018, 04:40:50 PM: And it sucked. And blew! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2018, 04:42:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 07, 2018, 04:40:50 PM
And it sucked. And blew! :lol

(https://media.giphy.com/media/asHT7eh4AwG9G/200.gif)
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2018, 04:45:07 PM: (https://media2.giphy.com/media/l0HlFZ3c4NENSLQRi/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on December 07, 2018, 04:48:47 PM: What do you think about the Haaaaaaaammmmming ? I think it's already metal history, but I don't know if I should smile or facepalm ? The incoming riff is majestic.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 03:48:49 AM: I really enjoyed that run of Shark Island, Rocks Gang, Marcello and LaRue, great stuff, all of it.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 04:42:14 AM: Damn, that Teramaze song was great.

Classic Stratovarius.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 04:53:37 AM: Damn, that Icon song was amazing.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2018, 05:32:21 AM: Thanks Kade - I was hanging out for a bit of feedback after all those downloads :)

Make sure you check the tracklist for band names - there's some weird spelling in amongst them.

Roxx Gang
Marchello
Le Roux etc...
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2018, 06:58:50 AM: Sorry Brent. It's been a suck week.

I'll have some listening time this week. I'm on vacation.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2018, 07:35:04 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 04:53:37 AM
Damn, that Icon song was amazing.

Agreed... that was one of the 5 that I singled out. The others being Lord, Alejandro Silva, Badlands, and the feature band. I gotta check those ones out.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 09, 2018, 09:24:48 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 07, 2018, 04:38:27 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 07, 2018, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Heavy Metal Hippie on December 07, 2018, 04:29:43 PM
I'm looking forward to the Starbreaker album.
I've only played their previous release one time, maybe I should give it another spin. My favorite -outside of TNT- Tony Harnell album is the first Westworld.

There are three previous releases arentrhere?

There's been two Starbreaker albums. The debut self titled and Love's Dying Wish.

Yeah I was adding the Westworld albums in there too.
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 02:27:18 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2018, 05:32:21 AM
Thanks Kade - I was hanging out for a bit of feedback after all those downloads :)

Make sure you check the tracklist for band names - there's some weird spelling in amongst them.

Roxx Gang
Marchello
Le Roux etc...

No worries mate. I only really get time to listen on the weekends. Are you going to do a tracklist of the show or have I just missed that?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2018, 03:10:57 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2018, 05:32:21 AM
Thanks Kade - I was hanging out for a bit of feedback after all those downloads :)

Make sure you check the tracklist for band names - there's some weird spelling in amongst them.

Roxx Gang
Marchello
Le Roux etc...

No worries mate. I only really get time to listen on the weekends. Are you going to do a tracklist of the show or have I just missed that?

You missed me saying the link is in the OP :)
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Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 07:05:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2018, 05:32:21 AM
Thanks Kade - I was hanging out for a bit of feedback after all those downloads :)

Make sure you check the tracklist for band names - there's some weird spelling in amongst them.

Roxx Gang
Marchello
Le Roux etc...

No worries mate. I only really get time to listen on the weekends. Are you going to do a tracklist of the show or have I just missed that?

You missed me saying the link is in the OP :)

Awesome, thanks Brent.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 10, 2018, 05:09:16 AM: Paris Calling by Shark Island is a kick ass tune. From what I read, Shark Island was predicted to be the next big thing but obviously that didn't pan out. What did you rate their album Brent?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 10, 2018, 05:59:46 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 10, 2018, 05:09:16 AM
Paris Calling by Shark Island is a kick ass tune. From what I read, Shark Island was predicted to be the next big thing but obviously that didn't pan out. What did you rate their album Brent?

Been ages since I have listened to or rated anything much .

Looks like originally I rated it around an 80% but over time it was a grower so probably more like high 80's. A couple of classics , plenty of very good stuff and little I'd call filler.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 10, 2018, 10:36:26 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 10, 2018, 05:09:16 AM
Paris Calling by Shark Island is a kick ass tune. From what I read, Shark Island was predicted to be the next big thing but obviously that didn't pan out. What did you rate their album Brent?

I'm virtually certain this is a track you provided in one of my roulettes. Very tasty.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 10, 2018, 10:51:58 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 10, 2018, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 10, 2018, 05:09:16 AM
Paris Calling by Shark Island is a kick ass tune. From what I read, Shark Island was predicted to be the next big thing but obviously that didn't pan out. What did you rate their album Brent?

I'm virtually certain this is a track you provided in one of my roulettes. Very tasty.

It’s a great album. Shake For Meis my favourite track.

Apparently Axl Rose stole all Richard Black’s moves.

I have a confession to make. A mate did me a compilation with some Heavier stuff on it. Just heard Seasons In The Byss by Slayer and really enjoyed it. Guitar solo was hit but the rest was excellent. Just never bothered listening to them before.
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Post by: TAC on December 10, 2018, 11:45:11 AM: Seasons is a great album. Lowdz, if you've never really listened to Slayer before, that'd be the album to check out. It's quite accessible.
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Post by: TAC on December 10, 2018, 11:48:44 AM: I don't know much about Shark Island. But I did have the Contraband album because of Michael Schenker. I remember being disappointed by it. I think Shark Island were involved with that, no?

I saw Schenker's acoustic tour with Robin McCauley in 1992, and pretty sure the Shark Island guitarist was part of the trio.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 10, 2018, 01:20:18 PM: The singer of Contraband was Richard Black from Shark Island. I've never heard the Contraband album though.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 10, 2018, 02:59:39 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 10, 2018, 01:20:18 PM
The singer of Contraband was Richard Black from Shark Island. I've never heard the Contraband album though.

As Tim said it was disappointing - aside from the opening track from memory. None of the band members had any writing credit on the album , so it was a bit more like a Frontiers style "project."
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Post by: TAC on December 10, 2018, 03:06:12 PM: The opening track was All The Way From Memphis I recall. It was OK, and you could hear Schenker on it, but after that, I just remember the thing going downhill.
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Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2018, 03:15:13 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 10, 2018, 10:51:58 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 10, 2018, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 10, 2018, 05:09:16 AM
Paris Calling by Shark Island is a kick ass tune. From what I read, Shark Island was predicted to be the next big thing but obviously that didn't pan out. What did you rate their album Brent?

I'm virtually certain this is a track you provided in one of my roulettes. Very tasty.

It’s a great album. Shake For Meis my favourite track.

Apparently Axl Rose stole all Richard Black’s moves.

I have a confession to make. A mate did me a compilation with some Heavier stuff on it. Just heard Seasons In The Byss by Slayer and really enjoyed it. Guitar solo was hit but the rest was excellent. Just never bothered listening to them before.

As Tim said, Seasons is probably their best album to start with. Although, the track Seasons isn't really the best representation of the band IMO, so don't expect songs like that all the time. South of Heaven is another good one to start with. Reign in Blood is just classic status, good lord that's a mighty album.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 11, 2018, 12:42:17 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 10, 2018, 03:15:13 PM
As Tim said, Seasons is probably their best album to start with. Although, the track Seasons isn't really the best representation of the band IMO, so don't expect songs like that all the time. South of Heaven is another good one to start with. Reign in Blood is just classic status, good lord that's a mighty album.

All of that.

But if you didn't like the guitar solo in Seasons In The Abyss, you will not like the other solos. :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2018, 04:21:19 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on December 11, 2018, 12:42:17 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 10, 2018, 03:15:13 PM
As Tim said, Seasons is probably their best album to start with. Although, the track Seasons isn't really the best representation of the band IMO, so don't expect songs like that all the time. South of Heaven is another good one to start with. Reign in Blood is just classic status, good lord that's a mighty album.

All of that.

But if you didn't like the guitar solo in Seasons In The Abyss, you will not like the other solos. :biggrin:

Indeed. The Seasons solo is one of their most melodic, if not the most. As a guitarist, I don't know what the fuck they are thinking with some of their solos, but somehow they make them work.
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2018, 10:40:14 AM: I bit off the first 1hr40m off the latest podcast.

Brent, what I love about this podcast is the old school feel to it. Even if the songs are kind of corny (Aftermath), it adds to the vibe. In the 80's, everything was corny! :lol

And it's nice to break up the rareties with some familiar songs.

Love hearing Chinatown in the classic block. I haven't heard Come Along in ages (was never a fan). After UFO and Thin Lizzy, I was trying to figure out what would come next. My prediction was Tygers Of Pan Tang...

I really liked that Tytan track, and I thought the Lord track was old Jeff Scott Soto. I do have Digital Lies, but I've never really gone back to it after buying it.

But holy shit, that Alejandro Silva track was AMAZING!! :hefdaddy Are all of his albums instrumental?
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2018, 01:01:51 PM: OK, got another chunk in. Have 90 min left.

The Marcello track was great. The lyrics, especially that first verse, really hit close to home. I actually welled up listening.

The Whitesnake was actually not a bad song. I was also quite disappointed when the Badlands came out. I bought it upon its release and I was quite not impressed. You picked a good song for the show though.

And I know it's overplayed, but Dream On is spectacular. I almost forwarded through it, but I decided to listen through and I'm glad I did.

Man In The Box-I bought Facelift when it came out. It came with a VHS of 4 live tracks. I generally liked it, but I wasn't wowed by it. I actually remember thinking it was a second rate Armored Saint. I never followed up with them after that. I actually saw them twice in '91.

Modern Day Cowboy- This came out in the fall of '86. I remember driving back to college from home on a Sunday night. I heard Modern Day Cowboy on the radio and I was blown away. It was classic, but fresh. When I got to school, I literally called the radio station to find out who and what that was.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 11, 2018, 02:42:30 PM: One of my top 3 Tesla tracks, and by far my fave from MR.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2018, 03:04:20 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 11, 2018, 10:40:14 AM
Love hearing Chinatown in the classic block

Such a great fucking song.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 11, 2018, 03:14:57 PM: Thanks for all that Tim - it is all about the vibe ;D (that will mean more to Aussies......local movie )

I try to make the regular shows (no theme) a combination of taking us back to the classics of our childhood + a bit of a roulette without all the work :)

Alejandro Silva is just instrumental to the best of my knowledge - I have a few albums around that I still haven't checked out.

Modern Day Cowboy got lots of play from me back in the day - but as I have mentioned before Tesla were about as rare as Alejandro Silva out here - never made radio at all.

I can't say I recall hearing Dream On on commercial radio either, so not overplayed from my point of view :) - it's a miracle how any of us Aussies discovered good music back in the day. Lots of digging through magazines and finding the right people to talk to about music.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2018, 03:35:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 11, 2018, 03:14:57 PM
Thanks for all that Tim - it is all about the vibe ;D (that will mean more to Aussies......local movie )

Oh, Brent, hell yes, good one, I totally get that, that is such a great classic movie........

(https://media.giphy.com/media/4pMX5rJ4PYAEM/giphy.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2018, 04:46:01 PM: Live clip from King Diamond DVD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwG0uzbffbU

Fuckin' good.
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2018, 04:49:22 PM: Looks great! :tup
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2018, 07:29:07 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 09, 2018, 07:35:04 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 04:53:37 AM
Damn, that Icon song was amazing.

Agreed...

That song completely blew! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2018, 03:59:38 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 11, 2018, 07:29:07 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 09, 2018, 07:35:04 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 09, 2018, 04:53:37 AM
Damn, that Icon song was amazing.

Agreed...

That song completely blew! :lol

Yeah, the fucking roof off!!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2018, 04:13:10 AM: :rollin

It's rare that I pick a song and think everyone will love it - I generally have one or two of you in mind for each track.

Thankfully Tim wasn't my target with the Icon track. :)
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 12, 2018, 04:24:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2018, 04:13:10 AM
:rollin

It's rare that I pick a song and think everyone will love it - I generally have one or two of you in mind for each track.

Thankfully Tim wasn't my target with the Icon track. :)

Mission accomplished obviously.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2018, 04:39:51 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 12, 2018, 04:24:37 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 12, 2018, 04:13:10 AM
:rollin

It's rare that I pick a song and think everyone will love it - I generally have one or two of you in mind for each track.

Thankfully Tim wasn't my target with the Icon track. :)

Mission accomplished obviously.

I have been known to play something just to get on Tim's nerves (at Ben's request) so I might have accomplished multiple mission objectives ;D
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2018, 11:02:43 AM: Brent, just finished the show!

:clap:

Loved it. Really well balanced show and very enjoyable. That Avalon band is pretty good. I enjoyed that. I definitely preferred the singer on the second album you featured.

I have to say...Extreme just does not do it for me.

Oh and I forgot, that Xentrix tune was...interesting. It was awesome, but damn :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2018, 11:35:45 AM: Thanks Tim :tup

There are parts to the Xentrix that I really like but I think it's their inability to work a decent verse lyric in there that throws things off - it does sound rather weird.
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2018, 02:22:46 PM: Alejandro Silva is on Spotify. I Saved his albums. He released an album last year. Listening to it now.
AMAZING!! :hefdaddy
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Post by: Big Hath on December 12, 2018, 10:45:34 PM: great show! Started off strong with a few gems like the Silva, Xentrix, and Trail of Murder. Then from Dream On through the end was an even higher level of awesome.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 13, 2018, 12:03:42 AM: Great to hear - thanks Jon :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2018, 03:11:22 PM: I'll finish off the last hour, but thinking about it, this has been one of your most enjoyable podcasts Brent, and I haven't finished. Sometimes those random playlist 'pick whatever the fuck I feel like' type of thing works the best than trying to fit a specific theme.
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Post by: TAC on December 13, 2018, 03:17:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 13, 2018, 03:11:22 PM
I'll finish off the last hour, but thinking about it, this has been one of your most enjoyable podcasts Brent,

Well, for me, it was so refreshing after playing roulettes the last few months, trying to discover new music, etc...

This has a great "sit back, put your feet up" feel to it.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 13, 2018, 03:19:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 13, 2018, 03:11:22 PM
I'll finish off the last hour, but thinking about it, this has been one of your most enjoyable podcasts Brent, and I haven't finished. Sometimes those random playlist 'pick whatever the fuck I feel like' type of thing works the best than trying to fit a specific theme.

I agree - they also take about 90% less work.

That's why I did one and released it before the 2017 shows (which were already in the can) - to break things up a bit and get back to a more casual style show. I will be trying to do more of these shows and less of the themed stuff moving forward.
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Post by: TAC on December 13, 2018, 03:20:13 PM: Listening to the ending, it sounded like it was way past Ben's bedtime. :lol
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Post by: Art on December 19, 2018, 03:55:38 AM: Don't know if this is the right thread to do it, but i want to recommend a podcast called "Dead Rock Stars", by Mick Wall and Joel McIver.

They talk about a different deceased rock star each episode, but they focus on their personal experiences (well, mostly Mick's) with the musician.

It's very funny, and FULL of great stories.

Cheers
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Post by: bl5150 on December 19, 2018, 04:14:05 AM: Quote from: Art on December 19, 2018, 03:55:38 AM
Don't know if this is the right thread to do it, but i want to recommend a podcast called "Dead Rock Stars", by Mick Wall and Joel McIver.

They talk about a different deceased rock star each episode, but they focus on their personal experiences (well, mostly Mick's) with the musician.

It's very funny, and FULL of great stories.

Cheers

Thanks Art - will check it out.

Hopefully they have a different definition of "rock" to the R'n'R Hall of Fame ::)
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Post by: TAC on December 19, 2018, 07:01:59 PM: I couldn't find the Power Metal thread, so I'll put this here. Stumbled upon it tonight.

New Vision Divine video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTSJXi3kQUs
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2018, 05:46:07 PM: An oldie but goodie!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfljslVqXCk

To the coolest guys in the coolest thread!

Merry Christmas, Brothers!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2018, 06:32:38 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 23, 2018, 05:46:07 PM
An oldie but goodie!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfljslVqXCk

Nice comment too - Sleigher :lol

Quote from: TAC on December 23, 2018, 05:46:07 PM

To the coolest guys in the coolest thread!

Merry Christmas, Brothers!!

Ditto that :metal You guys are the reason I keep coming back to DTF. The DT side sure isn't :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 23, 2018, 07:06:08 PM: I think I last posted on the DT side six years ago lol

Have a Metal Christmas and a Head Banging New Year! :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 23, 2018, 11:29:34 PM: And Happy Festivus!!!! :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2018, 11:29:56 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 23, 2018, 07:06:08 PM
I think I last posted on the DT side six years ago lol

Have a Metal Christmas and a Head Banging New Year! :metal :metal :metal

:lol (DT side)

You've been having the most metal Xmas of all time mate - nothing but Xmas albums all week. :)

While I think of it there's a bunch of shows for me to drip feed out over the next month or two - will get on to that shortly and try to explain how all the 2017 stuff works . It seems totally irrelevant now (Best of 2017) but just forget 2017 and think of it as lots of new music to discover :)

As far as 2018 goes I have done a reasonable job of keeping across things - all the usual research and sampling of albums to decide what is worth following up on has been done. So I do have my list ready to go - just haven't listened to much from 2018 as far as full albums go. I will do a big 2018 binge listen through Jan-Feb and hopefully have a (much less extensive) Best of 2018 to share before Christmas 2019 :angel:

In the meantime if anyone wants to share their Best of 2018 in hard rock and metal.................go for it . It'll help me make sure I haven't missed anything.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 23, 2018, 11:42:51 PM: Brent if you will take requests, my top two albums of 2018 are hands down Judas Priest and Fifth Angel.

Stand out songs from those two albums are “No Surrender” and “Dust to Dust”

:metal to Double B
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2018, 11:50:31 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 23, 2018, 11:42:51 PM
Brent if you will take requests, my top two albums of 2018 are hands down Judas Priest and Fifth Angel.

Stand out songs from those two albums are “No Surrender” and “Dust to Dust”

:metal to Double B

Sure - and I am certain Priest will feature in my best too. That's one album I have played a bit . No Surrender was in my top couple from the album too. :metal

Haven't got around to the Fifth Angel yet but I do have it here and ready to spin. Might check it out right now :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 24, 2018, 01:07:00 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2018, 04:08:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 23, 2018, 11:50:31 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 23, 2018, 11:42:51 PM
Brent if you will take requests, my top two albums of 2018 are hands down Judas Priest and Fifth Angel.

Stand out songs from those two albums are “No Surrender” and “Dust to Dust”

:metal to Double B

Sure - and I am certain Priest will feature in my best too. That's one album I have played a bit . No Surrender was in my top couple from the album too. :metal

Haven't got around to the Fifth Angel yet but I do have it here and ready to spin. Might check it out right now :)

The Fifth Angel is very strong Brent.

Even though I'm the biggest grinch around, Merry XMas to all you metal brothers!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 24, 2018, 05:02:00 AM: I've been waiting for that best of '17 for 12 months! A 'best of' from B&B is NEVER irrelevant.

As for my top albums of '18, well, the one that is likely to be my AOTY is not exactly fit for a B&B podcast, and I haven't put together my proper ranking yet (I still have about 5 albums to listen to). I'll just mention a few random gems:

Sergey Golovin - Sculpture. Ruslan gave this to Kade in his roulette. Very tasty instrumental album
Kissin Dynamite - Ecstacy. Why have I never heard of these guys before? This is their 6th album!
Ethernity - The Human Race Extinction. Hard to believe it's *not* Magali Luyten on vocals.
Walls of Babylon - A Portrait of Memories. Forget how I stumbled across this one, but it's a beaut
Trond Holter - Vlad the Impaler. This time, it's Nils K. Rue on vocals. Not quite as good as Swing of Death, but still really good.
Hexed - Netherworld. Female led melodic metal
Dark Horizon - Aenigma. Kinda a mashup of Pretty Maids/Kamelot, with a splash of Accept and Saxon. Very solid Hard Rock. I think you boys would dig this one.
Helion Prime - Terror of the Cybernetic Space Monster. Some cheesy power metal, but in a good way.

And two more to make it a nice round 'top' 10... these are TAC-comendations that I just listened to this week, and they were both insta-purchases

Diving Ascension - The Uncovering
Primitai - The Calling

P.S. Guardians of Time - Tearing up the World. This is one I'm partway thru as I type this... one of the 5 that I still have to listen to. Some straight-up kickass metal that you blokes would love. I'm diggin this bigly.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on December 24, 2018, 05:15:32 AM: Looking forward to both podcasts Brent. You missed my 2017 roulette so I'm interested to see what you thought the best stuff was in there, no doubt there will be a good amount that I haven't heard. And 2018 was a pretty slow year for me so I need all the help I can get filling in the blanks there.

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 24, 2018, 05:02:00 AM
Sergey Golovin - Sculpture. Ruslan gave this to Kade in his roulette. Very tasty instrumental album
That's a weird way of spelling David. :loser:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 24, 2018, 05:20:13 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on December 24, 2018, 05:15:32 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 24, 2018, 05:02:00 AM
Sergey Golovin - Sculpture. Ruslan gave this to Kade in his roulette. Very tasty instrumental album
That's a weird way of spelling David. :loser:

:doh:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on December 24, 2018, 05:47:51 AM: Yep, definitely not me - I had to search through the promo albums folder to find anything for that particular round. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2018, 04:59:44 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 24, 2018, 05:02:00 AM
Trond Holter - Vlad the Impaler. This time, it's Nils K. Rue on vocals. Not quite as good as Swing of Death, but still really good.

Woah, didn't even know about this one. This is definitely one to check out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 25, 2018, 10:47:11 AM: Yeah, it’s pretty good.

The Kissin’ Dynamite is really good. They were one of those bands when they first came out they had a couple of good songs. The album was average and then nothing really grabbed me. Gave it a go without any expectation and really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 26, 2018, 06:04:03 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 25, 2018, 10:47:11 AM
Yeah, it’s pretty good.

The Kissin’ Dynamite is really good. They were one of those bands when they first came out they had a couple of good songs. The album was average and then nothing really grabbed me. Gave it a go without any expectation and really enjoyed it.

Yeah - Kissin Dynamite have been pretty hit and miss over the years............pretty typical of the young wave of retro glam metal/rock bands . But the new one is getting very positive reviews.

I'll be honest - I wasn't as rapt in the Fifth Angel as most here. I think it's a pretty clear third in their catalogue. There's no doubt it's a quality effort but , dare I say it, the vocal melodies in many of the songs sound like they are being sung/written by a part-timer. He does a great job but I have found a similar effect in some other bands where a drummer/guitarist takes over the lead vocals , regardless of the merit of the vocal performance. Most of the songs were enjoyable for me but there was something missing in most of them IMHO and the title track was surprisingly weak.

My clear favourite was actually This Is War and the final track (Hearts of Stone) could well be second.
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Post by: TAC on December 26, 2018, 06:26:46 PM: This Is War is awesome!!!
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Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2018, 03:19:09 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 26, 2018, 06:04:03 PM
My clear favourite was actually This Is War and the final track (Hearts of Stone) could well be second.

Huh, two of my least favs there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2019, 04:23:58 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 27, 2018, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 26, 2018, 06:04:03 PM
My clear favourite was actually This Is War and the final track (Hearts of Stone) could well be second.

Huh, two of my least favs there.

But are you being objectively or subjectively?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2019, 06:25:43 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 01, 2019, 04:23:58 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 27, 2018, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 26, 2018, 06:04:03 PM
My clear favourite was actually This Is War and the final track (Hearts of Stone) could well be second.

Huh, two of my least favs there.

But are you being objectively or subjectively?

:lol I get it, even though I didn't even step foot in that thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2019, 06:55:55 PM: :lol :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 01, 2019, 07:01:46 PM: That thread objectively gives me a headache. It's like the P/R section has managed to escape it's asylum cell and hiding away in GMD.

EDIT: I see it has been locked up again :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2019, 07:25:45 PM: Brent you are being objective. I think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2019, 09:52:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 01, 2019, 07:01:46 PM
That thread objectively gives me a headache. It's like the P/R section has managed to escape it's asylum cell and hiding away in GMD.

EDIT: I see it has been locked up again :lol

My time is precious at the moment so as I said, I didn't even look at it but by the sounds I should put aside some time and check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 02, 2019, 05:07:43 AM: Not a wise objective.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 02, 2019, 04:22:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 02, 2019, 05:07:43 AM
Not a wise objective.

Now this opinion is subjective
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2019, 04:09:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 02, 2019, 05:07:43 AM
Not a wise objective.

Seems like I should be rejective of this idea.
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Post by: TAC on January 03, 2019, 05:46:06 AM: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Blinking_stop_sign.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2019, 05:48:49 AM: Okay we have "stopped" ...........which can be an adjective.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 03, 2019, 12:29:47 PM: Back to the rock!!! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2019, 02:28:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 03, 2019, 05:46:06 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 04, 2019, 06:17:42 AM: Fans of Lords of Black may be interested to know that Ronnie Romero has quit the band
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 04, 2019, 06:35:28 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 04, 2019, 06:17:42 AM
Fans of Lords of Black may be interested to know that Ronnie Romero has quit the band

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2019, 04:27:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 04, 2019, 06:17:42 AM
Fans of Lords of Black may be interested to know that Ronnie Romero has quit the band

He realised it's a shit band.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 04, 2019, 04:33:50 PM: If a tree falls...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 06, 2019, 03:51:56 AM: Thought I'd list some newer albums that I've finally gotten around to checking out since XMas.

Euphoeron - I've probably mentioned this one and checked it out a couple of months ago really but thanks to Tim, this is a really excellent album and thought I'd mention it. Have managed to listen a few times and a brilliant album. And they are from New Zealand! huh!

Dee Snider - I know nothing of Twisted Sister except their couple of hits. Dee's voice never did anything that I needed to check out more so checked this from the positive reviews, and yeah this is pretty nice. Pretty samey until the last few songs but some cracking straight up metal. Wouldn't be a long term classic but great metal album.

Nordic Union - Nope. I think the second song was pretty good but Martensson is pretty much cooked as far as I'm concerned. Didn't make it through the whole thing and Ronnie should lay this project to rest.

Lizzy Borden - I produced a better turd about an hour ago.

Dynazty - I don't think I listened to their last one at all. Renatus I love so I don't know why I didn't, or I did and it was all the same. Well this is all the same again, but even though you wouldn't repeat it over and over, I found it pretty enjoyable. Some nice songwriting here and there even though we've literally heard it all before.

Ten - Speaking of hearing it all before, this came quick, and I really liked Gothica. The samples I heard were average but I actually really liked this and a worthy follow up. Gary produces the same songs and structure yet again, but with this lineup he's on a bit of a late career roll IMO. Will listen again.

Devil's Hand - As mentioned in the other thread, it's Mike Slamer and he produces the goods again with some heavier moments, really enjoyable.

Riot V - I only know Fire Down Under and Thundersteel so don't know what made me check this. It was okay, but pretty generic. I turned it off halfway through.

Stratovarius - Great compilation and the new songs are awesome, this band is on some roll too. Burn Me Down is one of the coolest tracks they've done for a while. I've heard most here but a couple of songs I hadn't. Don't care for the orchestral versions at all, it would have been fine just with the 12 tracks. Nice little segway between albums this one.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 06, 2019, 04:27:15 AM: Between Dynazty, Ten, and The Night Flight Orchestra, I think every release is pretty predictable: enjoyable, but nothing we haven't heard before. I'd put Nordic Union on that bus too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 06, 2019, 06:34:43 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 06, 2019, 03:51:56 AM
Euphoeron - I've probably mentioned this one and checked it out a couple of months ago really but thanks to Tim, this is a really excellent album and thought I'd mention it. Have managed to listen a few times and a brilliant album. And they are from New Zealand! huh!

:metal

Yeah, this is a great album. Kind of surprised I can digest the vocals, but it creates a cool dichotomy with the absolutely stunning and gorgeous music behind it. Some real thoughtful and interesting lyrics too. This is a great band.

I would love to hear an instrumental version of this album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 06, 2019, 08:57:18 AM: I’d like to hear what Brent’s rating is for Kade’s turd
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 06, 2019, 02:11:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 06, 2019, 08:57:18 AM
I’d like to hear what Brent’s rating is for Kade’s turd

It stinks .
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Post by: wolfking on January 06, 2019, 06:40:57 PM: I can assure you all the turd was indeed a real stinker. My turd smelt pretty bad too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2019, 02:19:01 PM: Had a listen to the Trond Holter Vlad album. Pretty solid, although it's just Dracula all over again but not as good. Trond is some guitarist though, he can really shred when he wants to.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 10, 2019, 03:19:31 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 10, 2019, 02:19:01 PM
Had a listen to the Trond Holter Vlad album. Pretty solid, although it's just Dracula all over again but not as good. Trond is some guitarist though, he can really shred when he wants to.

Won't disagree at all. Nils is no Jorn, and the writing isn't anything fresh. Where Dracula was a solid A, I give Vlad a strong B+
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2019, 03:29:54 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 10, 2019, 03:19:31 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 10, 2019, 02:19:01 PM
Had a listen to the Trond Holter Vlad album. Pretty solid, although it's just Dracula all over again but not as good. Trond is some guitarist though, he can really shred when he wants to.

Won't disagree at all. Nils is no Jorn, and the writing isn't anything fresh. Where Dracula was a solid A, I give Vlad a strong B+

Too much female vocals to for me, I expected more Nils. Not sure if it's the same split as Dracula but felt like a lot more female vocals here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on January 16, 2019, 01:08:45 PM: Looks like Janet Gardner just quit as singer of Vixen. Sucks, I had never seen them, and had a ticket to a gig this April. No sense now. Hoping to get a refund.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2019, 02:13:00 PM: Quote from: Samsara on January 16, 2019, 01:08:45 PM
Looks like Janet Gardner just quit as singer of Vixen. Sucks, I had never seen them, and had a ticket to a gig this April. No sense now. Hoping to get a refund.

I'd still bang her.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 17, 2019, 05:45:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 16, 2019, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: Samsara on January 16, 2019, 01:08:45 PM
Looks like Janet Gardner just quit as singer of Vixen. Sucks, I had never seen them, and had a ticket to a gig this April. No sense now. Hoping to get a refund.

I'd still bang her.

definitely
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2019, 06:40:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 17, 2019, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 16, 2019, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: Samsara on January 16, 2019, 01:08:45 PM
Looks like Janet Gardner just quit as singer of Vixen. Sucks, I had never seen them, and had a ticket to a gig this April. No sense now. Hoping to get a refund.

I'd still bang her.

definitely

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 18, 2019, 06:28:10 AM: New Tesla song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKyjC71PdZQ&feature=youtu.be

Another one of my all time fave bands that I really can't be bothered with these days (in terms of new material) At least they're trying to do something a bit different but I'm not really digging it.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 18, 2019, 06:44:12 AM: The last one (Simplicity) was boring, up until then I found each record to be at least good. Can't hear the new song at work but I'm not very hopeful.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 18, 2019, 08:06:53 AM: This is probably only relevant to a couple of you but after not touching my guitars for 20 years or so I picked one up the other day. After being thoroughly amazed at how SHIT I now am on the instrument I had a look at an old archive I put together a number of years back and I seriously have shitloads of guitar tab books in hard copy and PDF format - a number of them are those Japanese full band scores.

So anyway..........I am not going to put the time into creating a list of them all , but if you're after anything specific then let me know. You can generally find individual songs easily enough on the internet these days , so perhaps this is of limited use . But if you want a whole album in book (PDF) form - the authorised/official tab then I might be able to sort it out for you.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 18, 2019, 10:36:57 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 18, 2019, 08:06:53 AM
This is probably only relevant to a couple of you but after not touching my guitars for 20 years or so I picked one up the other day. After being thoroughly amazed at how SHIT I now am on the instrument I had a look at an old archive I put together a number of years back and I seriously have shitloads of guitar tab books in hard copy and PDF format - a number of them are those Japanese full band scores.

So anyway..........I am not going to put the time into creating a list of them all , but if you're after anything specific then let me know. You can generally find individual songs easily enough on the internet these days , so perhaps this is of limited use . But if you want a whole album in book (PDF) form - the authorised/official tab then I might be able to sort it out for you.

Keep at it mate. I’m shit but still play - it’s agreat way to relax if you don’t pressure yourself to be awesome. It will come back pretty quick I’m sure.

I’d probably be interested in the tab books. I used to collect them just to follow the score as I listened to the albums.
I remember trying to decipher Steve Vai’s transcription of Alien Water Akiss 😳🤪🤯

As to theTesla, willlisten later. I quite liked the last one but found JKks voice hard to listen to. Hounded like duck quacking 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on January 18, 2019, 10:46:28 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 18, 2019, 06:44:12 AM
The last one (Simplicity) was boring, up until then I found each record to be at least good. Can't hear the new song at work but I'm not very hopeful.

Simplicity was old man rock. No fire, no metal edge. Even the one before that, Forever More. Good, but nowhere near as good as Into the Now. No Tommy, no edge. Tommy has his issues, but he brought an edge to the band's music that is sorely missing. Frank Hannon and Dave Rude are both kind of hippie-ish, laid back dudes. And it comes out in the music. Tommy was nowhere near like that. And that attitude found its way into stuff. Without him, Tesla just falls flat. And it kills me to say that, because I love the band. But they haven't been the same since INto the Now.
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Post by: TAC on January 18, 2019, 02:04:48 PM: Quote from: Samsara on January 18, 2019, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 18, 2019, 06:44:12 AM
The last one (Simplicity) was boring, up until then I found each record to be at least good. Can't hear the new song at work but I'm not very hopeful.

Simplicity was old man rock. No fire, no metal edge. Even the one before that, Forever More. Good, but nowhere near as good as Into the Now. No Tommy, no edge. Tommy has his issues, but he brought an edge to the band's music that is sorely missing. Frank Hannon and Dave Rude are both kind of hippie-ish, laid back dudes. And it comes out in the music. Tommy was nowhere near like that. And that attitude found its way into stuff. Without him, Tesla just falls flat. And it kills me to say that, because I love the band. But they haven't been the same since INto the Now.

hah, I'm not even familiar with Simplicity. For the record, I actually prefer Forever More.
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Post by: TAC on January 18, 2019, 02:14:07 PM: While I have saved a few albums on Spotify already, my first official 2019 purchase has arrived and I'm ready to sink my teeth into it!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51K7-ugC9mL._SS500.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on January 18, 2019, 02:24:35 PM: Holy crap, literally. Just checked that new Tesla tune. It blows. That intro and the verses. WTF?
I see it's Phil Collen producing. they should've gotten Pete Willis. Damn.
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Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2019, 02:39:09 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 18, 2019, 08:06:53 AM
This is probably only relevant to a couple of you but after not touching my guitars for 20 years or so I picked one up the other day. After being thoroughly amazed at how SHIT I now am on the instrument I had a look at an old archive I put together a number of years back and I seriously have shitloads of guitar tab books in hard copy and PDF format - a number of them are those Japanese full band scores.

So anyway..........I am not going to put the time into creating a list of them all , but if you're after anything specific then let me know. You can generally find individual songs easily enough on the internet these days , so perhaps this is of limited use . But if you want a whole album in book (PDF) form - the authorised/official tab then I might be able to sort it out for you.

Man, I'd be very interested in what you have mate. But transferring a whole book to pdf would be a massive task mate.

And also, hurry up and get the cobwebs out so we can start a band.
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Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2019, 02:40:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 18, 2019, 02:24:35 PM
Holy crap, literally. Just checked that new Tesla tune. It blows. That intro and the verses. WTF?
I see it's Phil Collen producing. they should've gotten Pete Willis. Damn.

After 1:15, switched off, what trash.
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Post by: TAC on January 18, 2019, 03:59:13 PM: Reporting back that the Flotsam & Jetsam kicks total ass. It does not disappoint. Best guitar solos on any F&J album, not that they're know for them.

Ken Mary is fantastic on this. I did NOT think he had that in him.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2019, 04:50:58 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 18, 2019, 03:59:13 PM
Reporting back that the Flotsam & Jetsam kicks total ass. It does not disappoint. Best guitar solos on any F&J album, not that they're know for them.

Ken Mary is fantastic on this. I did NOT think he had that in him.

Will check it out Tim.

I have actually had a lot more interest in the guitar tabs than expected - everybody wants to see the lot it seems. The reason why I just said "let me know what you're after" was that they're mixed up in a whole lot of other docs (not all related to guitar playing) and I thought I might get away without having to organise them ;D It'll need to be done eventually so I'll do it and then create a zip file with the lot in it and PM a link to those who have expressed an interest. Might not be pronto but I will get to it.

re the PDFs Kade - most of them are already done. It's a mix of stuff I had already converted years ago plus stuff I have got from contacts I used to have in the guitar world plus a few I found online myself in PDF form. I do have a few hard copy ones that are not converted - wouldn't know where to start looking for them to be honest. They include Gutter Ballet and XYZ s/t and a book with every Van Halen song A-Z ( edit ...found Gutter Ballet in PDF and added). But most of my others are in the digital lot. There's some super rare stuff in amongst it - eg Angra Angels Cry , Armored Saint SoS, Greg Howe Introspection and Crimson Glory Transcendence for starters.

I have a similar lot I put together years ago with what many would consider the best guitar instructional material (based on my own research) but I cannot seem to find it at the moment.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 19, 2019, 04:52:13 AM: I'm much more interested in a B&B podcast for the best of 2017. :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2019, 05:23:08 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 19, 2019, 04:52:13 AM
I'm much more interested in a B&B podcast for the best of 2017. :biggrin:

Will get that to you this week.

I am now realising why I didn't want to reorganise/rename all this stuff properly :lol - almost 150 books you guys are going to be getting :omg: Will work on it gradually in coming days.
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Post by: TAC on January 19, 2019, 10:49:10 AM: Holy shit. RIP Ted McKenna. :(
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Post by: Lowdz on January 19, 2019, 11:26:33 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 19, 2019, 10:49:10 AM
Holy shit. RIP Ted McKenna. :(

Saw that this morning. RIP.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2019, 04:05:31 AM: Brent, not gonna lie, I had images of you scanning page by page of dozens of guitar tabs books, pressing the middle down firmly each time so you got a proper copy. :lol

Quote from: bl5150 on January 19, 2019, 05:23:08 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 19, 2019, 04:52:13 AM
I'm much more interested in a B&B podcast for the best of 2017. :biggrin:

Will get that to you this week.

I am now realising why I didn't want to reorganise/rename all this stuff properly :lol - almost 150 books you guys are going to be getting :omg: Will work on it gradually in coming days.

Oh, baby!!
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2019, 04:07:03 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 19, 2019, 10:49:10 AM
Holy shit. RIP Ted McKenna. :(

Not gonna lie, I had to goggle his name. RIP however.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 05:32:27 AM: deleted
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 06:50:53 AM: So, you scanned all of those in? Every page??
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 06:54:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 19, 2019, 04:50:58 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 18, 2019, 03:59:13 PM
Reporting back that the Flotsam & Jetsam kicks total ass. It does not disappoint. Best guitar solos on any F&J album, not that they're know for them.

Ken Mary is fantastic on this. I did NOT think he had that in him.

Will check it out Tim.

I have actually had a lot more interest in the guitar tabs than expected - everybody wants to see the lot it seems. The reason why I just said "let me know what you're after" was that they're mixed up in a whole lot of other docs (not all related to guitar playing) and I thought I might get away without having to organise them ;D It'll need to be done eventually so I'll do it and then create a zip file with the lot in it and PM a link to those who have expressed an interest. Might not be pronto but I will get to it.

re the PDFs Kade - most of them are already done. It's a mix of stuff I had already converted years ago plus stuff I have got from contacts I used to have in the guitar world plus a few I found online myself in PDF form. I do have a few hard copy ones that are not converted - wouldn't know where to start looking for them to be honest. They include Gutter Ballet and XYZ s/t and a book with every Van Halen song A-Z ( edit ...found Gutter Ballet in PDF and added). But most of my others are in the digital lot. There's some super rare stuff in amongst it - eg Angra Angels Cry , Armored Saint SoS, Greg Howe Introspection and Crimson Glory Transcendence for starters.

I have a similar lot I put together years ago with what many would consider the best guitar instructional material (based on my own research) but I cannot seem to find it at the moment.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 06:59:04 AM: Wow, It's like I can't unsee it now! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2019, 12:58:26 PM: What is the Judas Priest- Super Best Japanese band score?

I'm assuming that's when the band played on the Japanese television show "Super Terrific Happy Hour"?
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2019, 01:44:23 PM: I want quite a few of those. Fucking Perpetual Burn and TMac come at me.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2019, 02:02:15 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 20, 2019, 12:58:26 PM
What is the Judas Priest- Super Best Japanese band score?

I'm assuming that's when the band played on the Japanese television show "Super Terrific Happy Hour"?

:lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2019, 02:03:17 PM: New Iron Savior;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYcxJbz4fUI

You can assume what this sounds like without even clicking the link, but this is a solid tune.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2019, 02:10:18 PM: Iron Savior was solid.

Didn’t dig that new Tesla song at all but I’ve barely heard any of their material since Psychotic Supper.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 03:09:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 20, 2019, 02:03:17 PM

You can assume what this sounds like without even clicking the link, but this is a solid tune.

I listened to this the other day and thought the same exact thing. On both accounts.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2019, 04:55:52 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 20, 2019, 02:10:18 PM
Didn’t dig that new Tesla song at all but I’ve barely heard any of their material since Psychotic Supper.

You didn't miss anything.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 05:45:39 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 20, 2019, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 20, 2019, 02:10:18 PM
Didn’t dig that new Tesla song at all but I’ve barely heard any of their material since Psychotic Supper.

You didn't miss anything.

The only song that I remember well post-PS is Cry from Bust a Nut........good song. Aside from that it's all a bit of a blur.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 05:47:00 PM: Cry is one of their best songs, and I think Bust A Nut is excellent.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 06:00:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2019, 05:47:00 PM
Cry is one of their best songs, and I think Bust A Nut is excellent.

I do really like Cry and consider Bust A Nut their last "proper" Tesla album but for me it's a bit like Promised Land. One or two (one in this case) tracks I really like and a few solid ones, but I could detect the magic - from my point of view- was going missing. And from there it was downhill pretty quick.

Last reminder to PM me please if you want the guitar/score archive .................all for the once only price of ~~$5000~~ FREE! Offer good for 24 hrs then we move along to other things like the ancient 2017 podcast ;D
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 06:05:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2019, 05:47:00 PM
Cry is one of their best songs, and I think Bust A Nut is excellent.

I do really like Cry and consider Bust A Nut their last "proper" Tesla album but for me it's a bit like Promised Land. One or two (one in this case) tracks I really like and a few solid ones, but I could detect the magic - from my point of view- was going missing. And from there it was downhill pretty quick.

Well from there, that was it. Tommy was out. They toured as a 4 piece and then basically disappeared.

Did you just compare BaN to PL?

Personally I love Bust A Nut.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 06:08:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2019, 06:05:20 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2019, 05:47:00 PM
Cry is one of their best songs, and I think Bust A Nut is excellent.

I do really like Cry and consider Bust A Nut their last "proper" Tesla album but for me it's a bit like Promised Land. One or two (one in this case) tracks I really like and a few solid ones, but I could detect the magic - from my point of view- was going missing. And from there it was downhill pretty quick.

Well from there, that was it. Tommy was out. They toured as a 4 piece and then basically disappeared.

Did you just compare BaN to PL?

Personally I love Bust A Nut.

I suppose the difference between Bust A Nut and PL is that PL has songs that I really dislike whereas Bust A Nut is solid throughout with one standout track. And PL has one standout track for me too (One More Time).

The key comparison for me is that they were both "turning point" albums where I had the feeling that they were losing the magic and that things were downhill pretty swiftly afterwards.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 06:10:30 PM: I get what you are saying.

I just happen to think BaN is stronger than you do. But yes, they were done after that.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 06:15:30 PM: I even think Psychotic Supper is a little patchy but the best songs are some of their best.

Their first two though are genre classics IMO with barely a weak track between them. The Great Radio Controversy was the one I used in my Top 50 but Mechanical Resonance would've been worthy too.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 06:18:24 PM: I actually consider TGRC fairly weak.

Half killer, half filler.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 06:21:56 PM: Well there you go! I will have to get Wildranger to run a poll on TGRC vs Bust A Nut ;D

I predit TGRC in a landslide with about 5 people bothering to vote :)
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 06:28:35 PM: Just looking at the tracklist for BaN. There is a lot of it that is unspectacular for sure.

But I love:
Cry
Solution
Shine Away
Try So Hard
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 08:20:55 PM: OK guys............onto the podcast. I have so much 99% ready but life keeps getting in the way I'm afraid.

Anyway - here we have the very belated, much anticipated and pretty outdated Best Of 2017..........the Top 40 show.

https://yadi.sk/d/CfyozDrRUiyGhQ

There are still two more Best Of The Rest shows to follow. What started out of frustration at a perceived lack of quality releases in August 2017 turned into a monster project after I just kept finding stuff. I have this issue where once I start something I have to finish it no matter how many detours along the way.

These shows have been done very gradually over a long period of time and the order of release is different to the order of recording. I actually started on the first "best of the rest" show back in March - intending to release that first- and was talking about the "new Judas Priest album" and now I am releasing the Top 40 first etc........so the time frames are all off but the music is the important thing, right? And in that spirit , try to forget that this is about a year too late and just enjoy discovering some new music, because that's what motivates this whole thing. As per usual there's a fair bit of diversity in the Top 40 and pretty much every track will be liked by some and not others. One thing I am pretty sure of is that everyone will discover something of interest.

I have another regular show half done too and this show is one where everything has been selected by Ben - I think you'll be surprised at what he's come up with.

Hope you enjoy the listen. Tracklist to follow.
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 08:31:38 PM: Awesome Brent! It's 10:30 pm here right now and I have to be at work at 6:am. I'll download when I get home tomorrow.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 08:38:21 PM: Ben did a special intro for you to send off two thousand and SEVENTEEN ;D
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 08:45:58 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 08:38:21 PM
Ben did a special intro for you to send off two thousand and SEVENTEEN ;D

:lol

Awesome.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2019, 09:08:22 PM: I know how I'm starting my morning tomorrow!

:fistpump:

About damned time!
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2019, 09:21:13 PM: Brent >>>>>> Santa Claus
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2019, 09:28:12 PM: (https://media.tenor.com/images/5c9bececfa47e999a41695b3788a518f/tenor.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 20, 2019, 11:35:26 PM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on January 21, 2019, 07:06:45 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2019, 06:28:35 PM
Just looking at the tracklist for BaN. There is a lot of it that is unspectacular for sure.

But I love:
Cry
Solution
Shine Away
Try So Hard

I always thought BaN was half a great album, but it’s a classic compared to anything after it.
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2019, 03:27:49 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 20, 2019, 08:38:21 PM
Ben did a special intro for you to send off two thousand and SEVENTEEN ;D

:lol

I'm truly honored Ben & Brent. A very nice segment. One that I needed frankly. It's been a pretty tough last week around these parts.
Thank you.

For winning the Winger-Off, I thought I'd get Ben his own bag!

(https://txdke3l2ekq3gt1rk3kfe0lq-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/WINGERS-Takeout-Customer-Bag.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2019, 03:37:22 PM: That place must be amazing.
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2019, 03:38:53 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2019, 03:37:22 PM
That place must be amazing.

Freakin'! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2019, 05:37:08 PM: They sell nuts right? ;D

A couple of albums coming across the BnB desk today - new Evergrey and debut Skid Row remaster with live show bonus disc. Will have to try and check em out today .
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2019, 05:41:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 21, 2019, 05:37:08 PM
They sell nuts right? ;D

A couple of albums coming across the BnB desk today - new Evergrey and debut Skid Row remaster with live show bonus disc. Will have to try and check em out today .

Interested in hearing your thoughts on the Evergrey Brent.

Interested in hearing your thoughts on the Starbreaker too whenever you get to hear it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 21, 2019, 06:31:57 PM: That Skid Row reissue caught my attention but it’s oniy a digital release. I would have thought that album would have been popular enough to rerelease a physical copy
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2019, 10:28:29 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 21, 2019, 06:31:57 PM
That Skid Row reissue caught my attention but it’s oniy a digital release. I would have thought that album would have been popular enough to rerelease a physical copy

Probably just a sign of the times unfortunately mate.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2019, 10:45:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2019, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 21, 2019, 05:37:08 PM
They sell nuts right? ;D

A couple of albums coming across the BnB desk today - new Evergrey and debut Skid Row remaster with live show bonus disc. Will have to try and check em out today .

Interested in hearing your thoughts on the Evergrey Brent.

Interested in hearing your thoughts on the Starbreaker too whenever you get to hear it.

Just listened to the Starbreaker Kade.

The Good:

- it's good to have Tony Harnell back singing this sort of stuff - always liked him and he nails it as usual. Great performance.
- this is not a "by the numbers" release like so many these days. Some time has clearly gone into it.
- there are no dud tracks
- there are lots of good/solid songs on it

The Bad

- there are lots of good/solid songs on it :) ................and little to none that are an absolute home run IMHO. Often I would be really expecting something great and was a bit let down by a chorus etc.......

So the songwriting is thoughtful but not quite there in most cases in terms of taking a song to "great."

On a raw song-by-song based rating it might be low end mid 80's but the overall quality would evelate it a few marks...........so let's say 87%.

Strong effort but a bit more work on choruses/vocal melodies could've made it even better. Having said all that there are a few that could be growers , but that's my initial impression.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2019, 04:13:58 AM: Thanks Brent. That seems like it would be a good summary. Sort of how the Ferrymen was. No real duds but no Allen/Lande style classics. 87 is a great score for you Brent. I do find with a lot of Karlssons later stuff there are a few growers. Initially songs do feel like there is something missing but do grow into good tracks.

I will say one of the songs released, 'How Many More Goodbyes' I think it's called I really really like so good signs for me with this album.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2019, 07:26:39 AM: Now the Evergrey.......

I get that it's a part of their melancholy sound these days but I must admit that their use of the muddy wall of sound production does wear me down a bit while listening to them. At times it's like a wall of noise where you can detect the notes changing but would be hard pressed to distinguish the bass from the guitars from the keys. I am sure that doesn't bother some (and I am getting used to it a bit these days, even with DT) but Evergrey are one of the worst offenders in this department.

Having said that it's not unlike the Starbreaker. Undoubtedly a quality album - no cookie cutter stuff here , a unique vocalist and no duds, which is always refreshing these days. The songwriting is quality without any one song really blowing me away.

Certain sections are fantastic:

- the midsection in A Silent Arc/End of Silence/Currents
- the outro in All I Have

But there wasn't a single song that had me cold from start to finish. Again.......might be a few growers with repeat listens.

Quality release overall - a couple of marks added for the originality in songwriting but a couple of marks subtracted for the production.

84%

I think most Evergrey fans will be quite satisfied.

Fave songs: Currents, A Silent Arc

PS How Many More Goodbyes was one of my favorites from Starbreaker .
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2019, 02:19:00 PM: Solid reviews Brent!
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2019, 02:47:45 PM: OK Brent, I'm about 10 songs in (actually up the the Zakk Wylde guy).

I don't remember the band names but ...

The two instrumentals were excellent, especially the first one.

A few of the songs were soso to begin with, but seemed to win me over, especially the first few tracks.

One of them was the Castle track. Big Sabbath vibe. The track didn't wow me at first, but it had a great arrangement.

Speaking of Castle, I hope Lost Domain makes the 2018 show.

You mentioned that "Here's the point where the quality improves..." or something like that, and then you proceeded to play the worst three songs so far! :lol

The song where you mentioned that it reminded you of Tad Morose, I thought the verses reminded me of Queensryche's The Mission.

Loving the podcast so far though. Can't wait to hear the rest.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2019, 04:20:58 PM: Good to hear.

As far as the "worst 3 songs".............you may well agree with me if you hear the albums . In the end we do the best we can but it's hard to represent an album with one song and , just as our tastes vary with albums , I may pick one of your least favourite tracks.

Re The Castle I agree that it's a grower . Most of the albums I like these days fit into two categories - they're from bands that are:

- providing thoughtful, quality songwriting that is a bit of a new take on what I've always liked

- something pretty damn familiar but done well enough that I can forgive the lack of originality.

The ratings are generally done after only a couple of listens and are mostly just based on my enjoyment at the time , but over time if I was to listen to everything maybe a dozen times (as you would as a professional reviewer dealing with a little batch each week) I would expect the first category (bands like Castle) to climb the ladder and the more generic stuff to fall a bit.

Unfortunately given the quantity of material I sample/rate it's not possible to listen to each album as many times as I would like.

In the end the rankings are fairly arbitrary in many cases (esp outside the top ten) as the ratings are all so close and its a means to an end............just sharing the music.
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2019, 04:25:15 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2019, 04:20:58 PM

As far as the "worst 3 songs".............you may well agree with me if you hear the albums . In the end we do the best we can but it's hard to represent an album with one song and , just as our tastes vary with albums , I may pick one of your least favourite tracks.

It's all good. It just struck me as funny. Once I get the tracklist, I can revisit.

But honestly, Steel Panther ain't gonna make it in my book. :)
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2019, 04:26:51 PM: :D I am a sucker for those DLR screams
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2019, 06:35:55 PM: What did everyone think of Dream Child?. Certainly the best of the Dio alumni bands but I think 8 or 9 tracks would've been perfect. By Track 13 ( could be 12 depending on your version) the novelty is beginning to wear off and it's getting a bit samey.
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2019, 07:07:08 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 22, 2019, 06:35:55 PM
What did everyone think of Dream Child?.

I didn't even bother with it. If you say it's worth a listen then I suppose I'll check it out. I think I sampled the first song released, but I made it through 30 seconds before deciding I had enough.
What's the point? Are we honoring Dio? Ripping off Dio?

I checked out the video of the new Matt Sorum/Geezer Butler band this morning. What a pile of shit.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2019, 07:20:08 PM: Yeah - I didn't even bother with the Butler thing.

I wouldn't say Dream Child is a "must listen" - just making the point it has a lot more going for it IMHO than the very "lacking balls" Last In Line band with Viv Campbell. There's a couple of tracks on it that I really enjoyed where they broke out of the formula a little ,but there were also quite a few I consider filler.

I would rather listen to Dream Child than a couple of Dio's lesser albums . But yeah.........if the Dio impersonation gets on your nerves then it's an "avoid."
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2019, 08:12:31 PM: Oh Brent, I forgot to mention...

Not a shot at the podcast, just a band discussion but... I cannot get into Caligula's Horse. I've checked them out, but they just don't do it. The song you played went on and on, but it did finally come to life with that great solo towards the end of the song. It just took so long to get to that point. Honestly, I was surprised to hear them on the podcast.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2019, 08:22:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 22, 2019, 08:12:31 PM
Oh Brent, I forgot to mention...

Not a shot at the podcast, just a band discussion but... I cannot get into Caligula's Horse. I've checked them out, but they just don't do it. The song you played went on and on, but it did finally come to life with that great solo towards the end of the song. It just took so long to get to that point. Honestly, I was surprised to hear them on the podcast.

So was i :)

As I said at some point in the podcast there were a heap of albums that could've been used in the bottom 20 or so and , where in doubt , I tended to favour something half original. That style of modern prog grates on me sometimes and less on others and they probably got me on a good day .
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2019, 08:24:25 PM: I spent a night a few weeks back dropping the needle on bands like Caligula's Horse, Leprous, and Haken. I struck out. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2019, 08:27:25 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 22, 2019, 08:24:25 PM
I spent a night a few weeks back dropping the needle on bands like Caligula's Horse, Leprous, and Haken. I struck out. :lol

As a rule I agree - I really struggle with them. I rated Leprous - Bilateral 58%. Track 9 is called Acquired Taste so they got that right :lol

Even Pain Of Salvation - I have found a few tracks via my roulette that I really appreciated but on the whole I don't get the fuss. Haken too - yeah. They can certainly play but the songwriting just doesn't gel with my taste.

One album I am about to check out is the new Riverside. In the past I haven't had any real success with sampling them but the little I heard from their new one sounded quite listenable.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2019, 05:38:48 AM: I've given Caligula's horse a few attempts, and cast them aside. Can't find anything appealing about it.

I'm about to crack the Top 10 on the podcast, and will hold all but one thought until I'm done. That thought is to remind everyone that Skid Row s/t is FUCKING AWESOME!
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2019, 06:26:56 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 23, 2019, 05:38:48 AM
That thought is to remind everyone that Skid Row s/t is FUCKING AWESOME!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/2t9sDPrlvFpdK/giphy.gif)

Now that you mention it I might check out that remaster and extra live show.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2019, 06:41:20 AM: Me too.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2019, 06:57:36 AM: Well the remaster sounds awesome - just like the original ;D If there is any difference it's marginal - perhaps a micron taken out of the bass to brighten it up a bit. I don't have super duper audiophile ears though - perhaps you will notice something Chad.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2019, 07:15:41 AM: Unlikely. Just clicked play on Big Guns.
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Post by: Samsara on January 23, 2019, 08:38:05 AM: I picked it up when it was released (its only available digitally, I think, right?). I only really wanted the live show, as I think the original recording is fine (and I own the CD), and I also own the track "Frozen," since I have the 40 seasons Best of release. But all the tracks from the live show, by itself, were more expensive than buying the entire record, so I got the whole thing. I didn't bother downloading the album though, just the live show. WHich to me at least, was worth the purchase price. Pretty raw, but a good listen.

p.s. about the Vixen lead singer change. I had a ticket to see them this spring. After Janet left, I emailed the venue, and asked for a refund. Not because I don't wish Vixen well (because I wish them the best), but because I honestly was going to see Vixen with the lineup that was promoted. The VP of the venue, and the person who booked the band, is a big fan of Vixen himself, and not only did he refund me, he comped me the ticket (same exact front row seat), and said he can tell I was a big fan, and wants me to see it for myself that Vixen will be great moving forward.

That was really nice of him. I'm not a doubter -- I have seen footage of Lorraine fronting Vixen. She sounds great. I had no doubts about that. But I'm pretty bummed as this was my first time to see the band after having been a fan for 30 years now (I bought the first album on cassette in 1989, then Rev it Up on cassette, along with the Love is a Killer single, again on cassette), and now one of my favorite singers is no longer there. I'm going to go, because it is free, and a fairly easy drive. But man, I still am crushed Janet's no longer with them. I didn't really like her solo album much, unfortunately. Fingers crossed she plays a small club date and plays mostly Vixen material. But who knows.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2019, 10:56:30 AM: Couldn't tell a damned difference about the Skid Row Remaster. I'm on the live gig now. Lovin it.

Edit... except for the repeated use of feedback. Sheesh!
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Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2019, 02:27:45 PM: Will check the podcast on the weekend Brent.

As for Skid Row, funnily I think I own the self titled album but couldn't tell you a thing about it. If I do have it, I've never listened to it.
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Post by: TAC on January 23, 2019, 05:32:31 PM: I never bothered with Skid Row. Saw them open for both Bon Jovi and Aerosmith and I never thought anything of them.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2019, 09:00:33 PM: Dunno if any of you guys do anything on Pledge Music but here's Danny Vaughn talking about why you shouldn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Cj2pkayWcOY&fbclid=IwAR0nxzBttX0JyZZHFZYW_nT-EVRhZ31OYQkR8W9L4QeTvCDDLbyygPC3U0g&app=desktop

In short your money is being used to keep the lights on at a company in trouble and the artists aren't getting their funds.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2019, 03:22:35 AM: The debut from Skid Row is definitely awesome but the follow up Slave to the Grind tops it for me. Just a kick ass metal album.

Kade check out that one
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 04:08:07 AM: Forecast temperature in my part of the world tomorrow..........46 degrees C = 115F

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/8da2fe6b2899114bb2320203e771a7b8/tenor.gif?itemid=11987542)

Overnight low tonight = 30c which would be a heatwave in London (during the day) :)
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2019, 04:16:28 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 24, 2019, 03:22:35 AM
The debut from Skid Row is definitely awesome but the follow up Slave to the Grind tops it for me. Just a kick ass metal album.

Kade check out that one

I'm sure I've got one of those two mate. Will search around and give what I have a spin.
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2019, 04:19:14 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 04:08:07 AM
Forecast temperature in my part of the world tomorrow..........46 degrees C = 115F

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/8da2fe6b2899114bb2320203e771a7b8/tenor.gif?itemid=11987542)

Overnight low tonight = 30c which would be a heatwave in London (during the day) :)

I'm so glad we are missing all the heat you guys south are getting mate. We've been consistent 33 average for weeks with more to come but fuck me 46 degrees is brutal.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 04:23:00 AM: I suppose at least I will not be playing tennis at the Australian Open ;D
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2019, 04:25:06 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 04:23:00 AM
I suppose at least I will not be playing tennis at the Australian Open ;D

Completely irrelevant but man I hate tennis.

Summer has just ticked past the halfway point. Come on Winter!!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2019, 04:33:00 AM: It was -20C here a couple of days ago. -35 with the wind chill factor.
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2019, 04:36:07 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 24, 2019, 04:33:00 AM
It was -20C here a couple of days ago. -35 with the wind chill factor.

Sounds amazing to me at the moment.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 04:38:32 AM: Cold is no worries - just put on another layer of clothes ;D

But then we think it's cold when things approach zero

Growing your hair out like this helps to keep you warm too Chad.

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/5a/61/53/5a6153014ef5ba838b83be80ff79fd8a--beatrice-richter-hairy-men.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2019, 05:00:43 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 04:38:32 AM
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Quote from: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 04:08:07 AM
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 05:05:05 AM: :lol

Yeah baby .

You were posting in the alcohol thread earlier Tim - did you know that Wingers brew their own beer ? If anyone needs any ideas for Tim's 2019 Christmas present- there you go.

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Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2019, 05:09:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 04:38:32 AM
Cold is no worries - just put on another layer of clothes ;D

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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2019, 06:43:07 AM: Brent, I'm up through #25 on the podcast. Best two songs I heard in the last bunch were (I forget the band name, Sin Starlett?) the Lizzy Borden/Rob Halford guy singing. That was a cool tune, but there was a climactic point where the guy just doesn't get there. :lol
And the Puerto Rico (or Portugal) guy. That was probably the best tune so far. Really well written. Love the piano outro.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 07:01:10 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 24, 2019, 06:43:07 AM
Brent, I'm up through #25 on the podcast. Best two songs I heard in the last bunch were (I forget the band name, Sin Starlett?) the Lizzy Borden/Rob Halford guy singing. That was a cool tune, but there was a climactic point where the guy just doesn't get there. :lol

One of the weirder vocals I have heard in metal , that guy. And yeah...........he certainly misses the odd note :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2019, 07:14:40 AM: Ok, spoiler alert. Finished the podcast this morning.

Loved the opening - WINGER :metal
Tim, Ben’s right … you are old.

Of the ones that I already knew
Stamina - awesome. #14 on my AOTY rankings
Coldspell - wasn’t overly enamoured
Signum Regis - really liked that one - #17 in my AOTY rankings for 2017… the highest rated album that I didn’t buy (saved it on Spotify)
Firewind - loved it! #12 for me
Cromonic - wasn’t wow’d when I listened to the album. Liked this song though
The Silent Wedding - I remember checking them out… I’d noted it was a TAC or Lowdz recc’n. Uneventful. Vocals sucked ass - and still do.
Anthriel - Transcendance was a SIGNIFICANT step down from 2010’s The Pathway. Surprised you would see it the other way around. TASTES!
Labyrinth - I gave it an A-, and it ranked #21 (2nd highest rated album that I didn’t buy outright). I haven’t revisited it much though. That was a great track that you played.
Threshold - I rated it A, and it finished #13 (though now looking at what I had rated ahead of it, it probably deserves to be higher). Not a bad track on the album. I was leery about Glynn, but this is a terrific album.
Damnation Days - yeah baby! #3 AOTY for me. I was so fucking pissed at you when you used them first in Kade’s roulette - this track was my #8 Track of the year.

On the "check it out list" now:

39. White Highway / Lighthouse (female / Polish)
30. Voices / War is Coming
25. Evandro / Khymerical Visions - (‘Volto’; Puerto Rico) ... help me out here Brent. Where the fuck can I find this?
18. Haunters / Strange Kind of Affection
17. Neverland / Army of Liars
14. Streamline / <what was the song title again?
7. Osyron / Razors Wind (decent enough to warrant a cursory spin - gotta support the homegrown talent afterall)
6. Dreamtroll / Time for Vengeance
3. Barque of Dante / Ocean of Dreams - this is the shit I’ve been waiting for!
1. Sorcerer / Sirens - well shit… that’s Anders Engberg on vox. That changes everything.

Now give us that full playlist!

Can't wait for the 'best of the rest' list.
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2019, 07:21:01 AM: Hey I like The Silent Wedding. I think that album is cool. Glad to see it made the countdown.

That Palladine (?) track had some tasty licks!
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2019, 08:05:15 AM: That Excallion track was awesome. Just Saved them on Spotify.

I have that Stamina album saved already. It's pretty cool.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2019, 08:08:49 AM: Yeah the singer in Paladine also knows how to play a guitar :) And yeah.........Excalion are pretty cool :metal Although another vocalist that could be polarising.

Re Chad's comments.............really glad you got as much out of it as I had hoped. Most of the albums I had tagged for you it seems you liked (and rapt you dig Barque of Dante - that was one of my best finds for the year) . And some of the more old school stuff is appealing to others so that's cool.

A few comments on your comments :) :

- re The Silent Wedding I think I mentioned that the vocals are "make or break" and therefore I am not surprised you didn't like it

- re Anthriel I think I said that I couldn't remember much about the earlier album and therefore was operating under the assumption that it made less of an impression. Will revisit.

I will get you that tracklist - in the meantime a couple of corrections.

Haunters is the album name - the artist is Confess

The Puerto Rican project is Avandra and you can find Mr Volteau here: https://avandra.bandcamp.com/

And the Streamline song was Deliver Us................I think I may have PM'd that to you some time ago also when you asked me to pick something from 2017 and send it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2019, 08:35:39 AM: Giggity!

Anthriel / The Pathway is up there as one of the greatest DTF referrals I've ever received (got it from Zook when I was looking for recommendations on what should be my 1000th artist to listen to on last.fm). Damn I love that album.

The old school stuff was good, I just have to pick and choose how much I'm gonna explore. You're already fucking with my (unofficial) resolution to explore less and listen to my existing library! :getoffmylawn:
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Post by: Lowdz on January 24, 2019, 02:04:39 PM: You Aussies are killing me. -2 this morning and pissing down all the time. We don’t even get any snow here to make it fun 😀.

And on more music related topics, the first Skid Row is best for me. I hated StG at the time. There’s a coupleo& good songs on it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2019, 02:20:54 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 24, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
And on more music related topics, the first Skid Row is best for me. I hated StG at the time. There’s a coupleo& good songs on it.

Agreed. I've come to love SttG, but it still falls short of the brilliance of the s/t.
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Post by: TAC on January 24, 2019, 07:28:32 PM: Not sure why it took so long, but I just got this bad boy on CD today:

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Goddamn, I loved this album when I was a kid. Have the vinyl in my attic. Very much enjoying my listen tonight.

Insanity :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2019, 06:29:07 AM: Just listened to Everygrey / The Atlantic. Good listen, I put it on par with The Storm Within on first listen. Doesn't hold a candle to Hymns for the Broken.

On to Starbreaker.

Edit: Clearly a couple of filler tracks on Starbreaker, but overall I agree with Brent's assessment. Nothing terrible, but no real shining stars either. Very similar in how I viewed/heard The Ferrymen. I think Magnus has burned thru all his good ideas, and now is only capable of writing 'pretty good' stuff. This one will be a grower... it's definitely better than Love's Dying Wish though.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 25, 2019, 10:23:28 AM: Will listen to Starbreaker later. Just listened to the Kane Roberts. It’s a bit weird. Not sure what I made of it tbh. There’s a prog metal track in there, some growlies on a track courtesy of Melissa White Gluz - how does such a horrible sound come from something so beautiful? 😱), some Nu Metal, some melodic rock. All a bit disjointed but I sort of enjoyed it.

It’s certainly no Saints & Sinners, whichmade my top 50.
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Post by: TAC on January 25, 2019, 02:47:40 PM: I listened to the lead track off the Kane Roberts, and holy shit did it blow huge ass fucking chunks.
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Post by: Samsara on January 25, 2019, 02:52:57 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 24, 2019, 02:20:54 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 24, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
And on more music related topics, the first Skid Row is best for me. I hated StG at the time. There’s a coupleo& good songs on it.

Agreed. I've come to love SttG, but it still falls short of the brilliance of the s/t.

Weird. I've never heard anyone say that before reading this thread. Slave to the Grind (with the awful Get the Fuck Out removed for the censored version which features a much better song - Beggar's Day) is one of my favorite albums - period. Took a bit of the pop away, and just gave Skid Row a nice metal edge and some more serious lyrical content.

I love the first three Skid Row albums, but STTG sits above them both.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2019, 03:02:21 PM: Quote from: Samsara on January 25, 2019, 02:52:57 PM

I love the first three Skid Row albums,

And *this* is something I've rarely heard - Subhuman Race sucks monkey balls.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 25, 2019, 04:21:47 PM: Quote from: Samsara on January 25, 2019, 02:52:57 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 24, 2019, 02:20:54 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 24, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
And on more music related topics, the first Skid Row is best for me. I hated StG at the time. There’s a coupleo& good songs on it.

Agreed. I've come to love SttG, but it still falls short of the brilliance of the s/t.

Weird. I've never heard anyone say that before reading this thread. Slave to the Grind (with the awful Get the Fuck Out removed for the censored version which features a much better song - Beggar's Day) is one of my favorite albums - period. Took a bit of the pop away, and just gave Skid Row a nice metal edge and some more serious lyrical content.

I love the first three Skid Row albums, but STTG sits above them both.

That metal edge just seemed a bit false to me, but looking back it was probably the first album that was probably the false one.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2019, 04:51:34 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 25, 2019, 04:21:47 PM
That metal edge just seemed a bit false to me, but looking back it was probably the first album that was probably the false one.

I always felt that - especially after Subhuman Race. They went kinda 'glam-y' to get known (and sales) .... THEN went to what they truly were. SttG I love, but it did catch me off guard at first - like WTF is this!?!?! But I grew to love it pretty quick.

Subhuman Race... still sucks.
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Post by: TAC on January 25, 2019, 08:51:02 PM: Just checked the new Evergrey.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/fbe770aca0cf5a81f5f34f92befc33f3/tenor.gif?itemid=7518157)
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2019, 04:14:46 AM: :lol

I'm checking the new Soilwork I purchased this weekend, but I guess I better take it outside.
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2019, 03:51:13 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 24, 2019, 06:43:07 AM
And the Puerto Rico (or Portugal) guy. That was probably the best tune so far. Really well written. Love the piano outro.

This is where I am up to. What a wonderful tune. Well produced and great voice. He sounds a lot like Mark Tremonti and his more quieter voice reminds me a bit of David Defeis.

Edit: funny you mention the production Brent, I thought it sounded great.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2019, 04:02:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2019, 03:51:13 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 24, 2019, 06:43:07 AM
And the Puerto Rico (or Portugal) guy. That was probably the best tune so far. Really well written. Love the piano outro.

This is where I am up to. What a wonderful tune. Well produced and great voice. He sounds a lot like Mark Tremonti and his more quieter voice reminds me a bit of David Defeis.

Edit: funny you mention the production Brent, I thought it sounded great.

I just went back and had a listen and just comparing the BCC track before it ..........I find it so muddy (relatively) , but then that's almost par for the course these days. I could probably make it sound better by specifically EQ'ing the track in isolation.

Anyway - awesome that you guys are enjoying it. These needles in the haystack can make the endless hours finding them worthwhile. If Chad makes it through 2019 without spending time on new releases then perhaps he can rehabilitate me :)
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Post by: Lowdz on January 27, 2019, 04:09:53 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 24, 2019, 08:35:39 AM
Giggity!

Anthriel / The Pathway is up there as one of the greatest DTF referrals I've ever received (got it from Zook when I was looking for recommendations on what should be my 1000th artist to listen to on last.fm). Damn I love that album.

The old school stuff was good, I just have to pick and choose how much I'm gonna explore. You're already fucking with my (unofficial) resolution to explore less and listen to my existing library! :getoffmylawn:

I spent most of 2018 listening to the best albums from 1980-90, and my top 50. Twice.

Anyone listen to the new Electric Boys? A very good album - grown up hard rock. Made me decide to go see them in March when they play 30 miles from here in sunny 😳 Blackpool. Same venue I saw Geoff Tate at.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2019, 04:21:01 PM: I haven't got around to Electric Boys yet Paul. I was never a massive fan but have heard good things about their new one so will check it out at some point for sure.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2019, 04:24:05 PM: Not sure I could listen to anything called Electric Boys.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2019, 04:32:45 PM: Never know unless you try Tim - you might get a shock.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2019, 04:34:04 PM: Well that's a positive outlook.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 27, 2019, 04:54:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2019, 04:34:04 PM
Well that's a positive outlook.

Just trying to keep you current
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2019, 05:22:00 PM: Yeah, I don't mean to be so negative.
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Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2019, 03:46:00 AM: Jeez, there is some great stuff in the top 20. I'll post some comments when I check the tracklist so I can reference a bit more.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 28, 2019, 06:33:13 AM: Might just list it here for now:

40) CHRISTIAN VIDAL: HOME - Libertad De Un Corazon Solitario
39) WHITE HIGHWAY: LIGHTHOUSE - Lighthouse
38) CASTLE : WELCOME TO THE GRAVEYARD - Veil Of Death
37) ZHENX : ZHENX - Action
36) FABRIZIO LEO : COMING HOME - R5
35) CALIGULA's HORSE : IN CONTACT - Songs For No One
34) SACRED WILL : SACRED WILL - Soul In Ruin
33) STEEL PANTHER: LOWER THE BAR - I Got What You Want
32) PAINFUL PRIDE : LOST MEMORIES - Sands Of Time
31) PINNACLE POINT: WINDS OF CHANGE - Never Let go
30) SOULDRINKER : WAR IS COMING - Voices
29) COLDSPELL : A NEW WORLD ARISE - Signs
28) SIN STARLETT : DIGITAL OVERLOAD - Savage Nightshifts
27) KARIBOW: FROM HERE TO THE IMPOSSIBLE - Lost Peace
26) BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION: BCCIV - Sway
25) AVANDRA : TYMORA - Chimerical Visions
24) BELOW : UPON A PALE HORSE - 1000 Broken Bones
23) WILDNESS : WILDNESS - Welcome The Night
22) NIGHT DEMON : DARKNESS REMAINS - Hallowed Ground
21) PALADINE : FINDING SOLACE - Paladine
20) EXCALION : DREAM ALIVE - Portrait On The Wall
19) STAMINA : SYSTEM OF POWER - One In A Million
18) CONFESS : HAUNTERS - Strange Kind Of Affection
17) GODS OF SILENCE: NEVERLAND - Army Of Liars
16) SIGNUM REGIS : DECENNIUM PRIMUM - Screaming For Justice
15) CROMONIC : TIME - Mental Cry
14) FIREWIND : IMMORTALS - Wars Of Ages
13) STREAMLINE : STREAMLINE - Deliver Us
12) THE SILENT WEDDING :ENIGMA ETERNAL - Insanity
11) ANTHRIEL : TRANSENDENCE - My Dark Morning Star
10) BIGFOOT : BIGFOOT - The Fear
9) AIR RAID :ACROSS THE LINE - Black Dawn
8) SAVAGE MESSIAH : HANDS OF FATE - Lay Down Your Arms
7) OSYRON: KINGSBANE - Razor's Wind
6) DREAM TROLL: THE KNIGHT OF REBELLION - Time For Vengeance
5) LABYRINTH : ARCHITECTURE OF A GOD - Still Alive
4) THRESHOLD : LEGENDS OF THE SHIRES - Trust The Process
3) BARQUE OF DANTE : ALCHEMIST - Ocean Of Dreams
2) DAMNATIONS DAY : A WORLD AWAKENS - Dissecting The Soul
1) SORCERER: THE CROWNING OF THE FIRE KING - Sirens
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Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2019, 10:18:18 PM: I just finished the podcast and I REALLY enjoyed it. I'm at work but off the top of my head there's so many I enjoyed. Still have to get my ass around checking out the top 2 but others I loved;

Excalion
The Silent Wedding
Dream Troll
Stamina
Savage Messiah

There is a few more but I will have to reference them. There was some very impressive stuff Brent. Can't wait for 2018's edition.
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2019, 05:19:03 PM: I have a quiet hour alone in my office at work at the moment so spinning the Silent Wedding. I really quite like this. Every song is very similar, but it also has that consistency that I like too. Was a nice surprise to hear Tom Englund when his voice popped up. I doubt I'll get through the whole album but very nice this. The one thing I will say is that the soloing is a bit stiff.

It's amazing these days how you can just youtube an album and listen to it for free.
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Post by: TAC on January 29, 2019, 06:08:29 PM: Love The Silent Wedding. That and Anthriel were the only two albums on this list that I bought last year.

I also had Air Raid and Stamina saved on Spotify.

Finished the countdown today.

I must say that I just cannot get into Labyrinth. I feel like I've heard that music a million times before. And Threshold just doesn't do it for me anymore, though that song had a great solo.

Of the last set of 10-15, my two faves were Barque Of Dante and Dream Troll.
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2019, 12:13:10 AM: Yeah that Labyrinth track was great but I thought I had checked that album and it was wimpy as fuck. Maybe I'm confused.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 30, 2019, 06:42:47 AM: The Sorceror is excellentand I liked the Barque of Dante, but wtf was Dream Troll? That was fucking awful 😀
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Post by: bl5150 on January 30, 2019, 06:45:03 AM: haha - it's always good when half you guys think one artist blows and the other half really like it....and then the mirror image for another artist. Makes me feel I have done a good job in judging the tastes of the group as a whole :lol
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Post by: Art on January 30, 2019, 07:59:20 AM: Anybody else heard the Three Tremors stuff?

I tried the youtube lyric video and my God, it's BAD.

Who the hell wrote the music to that?
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 30, 2019, 09:05:54 AM: I thought I would really like the Three Tremors.

But I played the videos and I'm going to pass. Lyrics aren't good and it just seems like the screams overide any melodies in the songs.
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Post by: Art on January 30, 2019, 09:49:29 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 30, 2019, 09:05:54 AM
I thought I would really like the Three Tremors.

But I played the videos and I'm going to pass. Lyrics aren't good and it just seems like the screams overide any melodies in the songs.

Yeah, pretty much that. So over the top it's almost unlistenable.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 30, 2019, 10:13:48 AM: I'm one of the first to support screams in metal, but you are right, it is totally over the top.
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Post by: Samsara on January 30, 2019, 01:24:04 PM: And to be honest, the Three Tremors with what are essentially b-lister singers doesn't entice me.

if this was 15 years ago with Dickinson-Halford-Tate, that'd be different. I mean, that would fucking slay. :metal

Need I remind you - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me549HoI6gk

But nowadays, all those guys doing it...whatever. If I want the The Three Tremors, I just watch that video and remember.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 30, 2019, 02:22:35 PM: Nvm wrong thread.
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2019, 03:05:39 PM: There was one Three Tremors song that sounded pretty decent but the new clip I checked out a couple of days ago really wasn't great at all. A shame.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 30, 2019, 04:38:44 PM: Any time I see Sean Peck's name I know the chances of me liking it aren't great :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2019, 05:02:18 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 30, 2019, 04:38:44 PM
Any time I see Sean Peck's name I know the chances of me liking it aren't great :lol

I tried some Cage and it was just so meh. I tried to like the Death Dealer and the first album wasn't too bad actually, although the production was horrific so not worth the time. The guy can hit a high note though.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 30, 2019, 05:04:20 PM: Yeah , not the worst vocalist ever ............just doesn't seem to be able to associate himself with projects/songs that are much more than an excuse for him to screech.
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2019, 05:18:58 PM: Was able to get through a bit more of the Silent Wedding album, nice sound, some good songs. Looking forward to checking more.

Also, I forgot to mention that I had never heard a single Steel Panther song at all but that song was surprisingly very good. The Coldspell was good too. I only own their debut so perhaps I should check out more from them.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 31, 2019, 03:01:54 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 30, 2019, 05:18:58 PM
Was able to get through a bit more of the Silent Wedding album, nice sound, some good songs. Looking forward to checking more.

Also, I forgot to mention that I had never heard a single Steel Panther song at all but that song was surprisingly very good. The Coldspell was good too. I only own their debut so perhaps I should check out more from them.

Steel Panther have some excellent songs. No one does5he late 80s as well as SP, including many of the bands from the era.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2019, 04:18:54 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 31, 2019, 03:01:54 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 30, 2019, 05:18:58 PM
Was able to get through a bit more of the Silent Wedding album, nice sound, some good songs. Looking forward to checking more.

Also, I forgot to mention that I had never heard a single Steel Panther song at all but that song was surprisingly very good. The Coldspell was good too. I only own their debut so perhaps I should check out more from them.

Steel Panther have some excellent songs. No one does5he late 80s as well as SP, including many of the bands from the era.

Interesting. Will definitely have to check this album then at least.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 31, 2019, 07:49:38 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2019, 04:18:54 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 31, 2019, 03:01:54 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 30, 2019, 05:18:58 PM
Was able to get through a bit more of the Silent Wedding album, nice sound, some good songs. Looking forward to checking more.

Also, I forgot to mention that I had never heard a single Steel Panther song at all but that song was surprisingly very good. The Coldspell was good too. I only own their debut so perhaps I should check out more from them.

Steel Panther have some excellent songs. No one does5he late 80s as well as SP, including many of the bands from the era.

Interesting. Will definitely have to check this album then at least.

Balls Out is their best. Tiger Woods is an awesome song.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 31, 2019, 09:09:23 AM: The two Steel Panther songs that I like are Death to All But Metal and Tommorow Night (great lyrics in this one)
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Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2019, 01:45:53 PM: Tomorrow Night is killer :metal
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Post by: TAC on January 31, 2019, 06:47:04 PM: I don't know, man. I am not sure I can do Steel Panther.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2019, 07:01:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 31, 2019, 06:47:04 PM
I don't know, man. I am not sure I can do Steel Panther.

The real question is, would Steel Panther do you?
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Post by: TAC on January 31, 2019, 07:03:28 PM: I knew someone from Australia was going to post that! :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2019, 11:20:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 31, 2019, 07:01:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 31, 2019, 06:47:04 PM
I don't know, man. I am not sure I can do Steel Panther.

The real question is, would Steel Panther do you?

Steel Panther will do anyone. Or anything 😱

Anyone who would rhyme Call of Duty with “stick it in your booty” is fine by me 😀
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2019, 01:43:27 PM: I know TAC wasn’t impressed with the first Kane Roberts track but Alice is in this one. And there’s a hot chick so worth checking out. Growls too, which ruin twenty seconds of the song and weren’t at all necessary. But Alissa... :heart

https://youtu.be/hhpOwuw-BsQ
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2019, 01:45:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 01, 2019, 01:43:27 PM
I know TAC wasn’t impressed with the first Kane Roberts track but Alice is in this one. And there’s a hot chick so worth checking out. Growls too, which ruin twenty seconds of the song and weren’t at all necessary. But Alissa... :heart

https://youtu.be/hhpOwuw-BsQ

Hah! I'll check it out right now. I did see that Alice was on a track, but that first Kane track was so bad.
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2019, 01:49:17 PM: THAT.IS.FUCKING.AWESOME!
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2019, 01:54:27 PM: Thought you might like it 😀

This one is worth a try, the new Leverage. I miss the old singer but this is really good. Goes all weird and atmospheric in the middle too. Not what I expected but in a good way.

https://youtu.be/pcFqCJmnVZ0
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2019, 01:58:33 PM: Here's a picture of Kane Roberts cutting off the circulation to my head!

(https://i.imgur.com/5IWXvjh.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2019, 03:09:30 PM: That guy at the back is creepy as fuck.
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2019, 03:10:29 PM: I know right! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2019, 03:27:55 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 01, 2019, 01:43:27 PM
I know TAC wasn’t impressed with the first Kane Roberts track but Alice is in this one. And there’s a hot chick so worth checking out. Growls too, which ruin twenty seconds of the song and weren’t at all necessary. But Alissa... :heart

https://youtu.be/hhpOwuw-BsQ

That video was pretty cool. Not something I'd listen to over and over though.
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2019, 03:58:29 PM: Brent, you check this out?

The more I listened the more I liked it.

Lowdz might like this..

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0351831668_10.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2019, 04:55:43 PM: I'm just getting into 2018 let alone 2019 :lol I do believe I have seen something about the album/heard an advance track but no - cannot say I have checked the album out.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 03, 2019, 10:56:43 AM: Yngwie’s new album is a blues cover album. It will be shit.
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Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2019, 09:47:47 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 03, 2019, 10:56:43 AM
Yngwie’s new album is a blues cover album. It will be shit.

When you think the mighty can't fall any further......
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Post by: bl5150 on February 03, 2019, 10:00:04 PM: He should get all his ex lead singers back for one track each and they can all sing the blues with real feeling about what a royal pain the ass he is.
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Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2019, 12:12:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 03, 2019, 10:00:04 PM
He should get all his ex lead singers back for one track each and they can all sing the blues with real feeling about what a royal pain the ass he is.

Ha! Then you'd have a half decent album.
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Post by: TAC on February 04, 2019, 06:15:53 PM: Alice Cooper turned 71 today.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/07/92/9007922718436c88d67943537f76bc2e.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2019, 04:25:03 AM: Im only a very casual Alice fan but he is an absolute fucking badass.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 05, 2019, 04:36:11 PM: Surprised to see that singer Kendall Bechtel has left Fifth Angel. After such a good buzz about the band and the new album, this seems like a strange time to leave the band.

Fifth Angel brought in a new guitarist and singer, my guess is the new singer will sound more like Ted Pilot. Third Secret was a kick ass album, but a totally different sound for the band.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 05, 2019, 05:02:08 PM: Yeah - certainly doesn't sound an amicable split

https://www.forgotten-scroll.net/metal-news/fifth-angel-guitarist-kendall-bechtel-leaves-the-band/

I'm sure Brian will have some thoughts.

Ethan Brosh is a good guitarist (if he hangs around beyond the gigs) - although that doesn't necessarily make him a good writer of memorable vocal songs , as per Satriani/Moore.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 05, 2019, 05:03:26 PM: Has anyone heard of the new singer before?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 05, 2019, 05:10:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 05, 2019, 05:03:26 PM
Has anyone heard of the new singer before?

Not well known at all - seems he is in a Motley tribute in Phoenix or something.

I had to dig deep but found this , which seems to be him.

https://www.reverbnation.com/musician/stevecarlson6

Not much to go on there . Ironically the one snippet is a song called Only Time Will Tell.........sounds okay I guess.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 05, 2019, 05:13:10 PM: Thanks Brent, yeah not much to go on there with how he sounds.

We will have to wait for Brian and a BMZ update.
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Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2019, 11:21:16 PM: That news is very disappointing.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2019, 05:18:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 03, 2019, 09:47:47 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 03, 2019, 10:56:43 AM
Yngwie’s new album is a blues cover album. It will be shit.

When you think the mighty can't fall any further......

Well - here's the first single. A blues (original) from the great man - most on the album will be covers which is probably a good thing given what he writes these days. He is really becoming a caricature of himself - a shit song and the video consists of him looking like a wanker showing off his cars and guitars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvH1Wl6J50Y
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Post by: Samsara on February 06, 2019, 08:48:20 AM: Hey guys, about Fifth Angel. Yeah, there's a lot going on with that band. Suffice it to say, for whatever his reasons, Kendall up and ditched them at the worst possible time. It's not really my place to explain what the band thinks, and what was going on behind the scenes, but lets just say that they were blown away Kendall would up and leave, particularly after spending so much time and effort over the past year and a half writing and recording such a well received new album, and taking over as lead singer. But he up and left his other band, TKO, a year or so ago as well, so something is up with him. What that is, isn't my place to speculate on. He's a great player, and has treated me with a lot of kindness and class over the years. I wish him the best.

And Third Secret, while good, to me, isn't up to par. And the reason for that is simple -- Ed Archer (who is now back with the band) writes all the music for Fifth Angel, and he has ZERO writing on the new one (nor did he play on it). He was out of the band (by choice) when they wrote and recorded it, and then was asked to return when they realized they needed him. And its great they are solid once again (Ed, Ken Mary, John Macko), but that's why it sounds different. The way Ed writes, and the way Fifth Angel's rhythm guitars sound are much different then how Kendall did them. Its good, but it lacks the unique identifiers that make it Fifth Angel. That's why I am always skeptical when a band loses its major writer (Queensryche with DeGarmo, for example). Because it changes the dynamic completely. Sometimes it works, often it doesn't. I am glad they did another record, but truth be told, I consider the record to be something other than Fifth Angel. When you don't have Ed (music, arrangements, lyrics), and you don't have Ted (lyrics, vocal melodies, THAT VOICE), you really don't have what made the band distinct.

As for the new band members, I honestly don't know them. I had heard of Ethan Brosh before because of his guest appearance on Michael Sweet's last album. Fantastic lead player. He's been working with Ed quite a bit to learn the rhythms that Kendall would play. Its been funny (well, not so funny) for Ed, because while he wrote all those guitar parts, he;s become accustomed to just playing the ones he chose to play over the years. So now, he has both guitar parts down cold, because he is showing them to Ethan. :lol

But Ed said that Ethan's lead playing is amazing. He can play both Kendall Bechtel's leads and James Byrd's leads note-for-note, which if you know about the two of them, that's REALLY hard to do. So I think at least musically, Fifth Angel will be fine.

Vocally, I don't know anything about the new singer. Image-wise, he doesn't really fit, IMO. But his voice seems to have the character to pull off Ted and Kendall. But range-wise, I don't know if he can get those higher notes Ted hit. Maybe he can. But I haven't heard rehearsals, so I have no idea.

All I know is, I really wish that they get some stability. They made a band choice to let Peter Orullian go, and while Peter wasn't "the best" fit for them, he was the only voice that ever sang for them live since they reunited (and truth be told, back in the 80s, they never played live, just a couple of local record showcases), and for stability's sake, they should have kept him. He was gung-ho to do it. But it is what it is.

Thankfully, for Ed, Ken, and John, Fifth Angel isn't a full time job. THey all have careers outside of the band, and only Ken is in the music industry full time. Ed and John have regular jobs like all of us. All this music stuff is, is for their entertainment and enjoyment. So whether Fifth Angel continues after their shows, or calls it a day again, it won't hurt them. But my hope is they are able to solidify the foundation with the three of them, and then see where the future takes them after this show in a couple of weeks.
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Post by: Samsara on February 06, 2019, 08:48:44 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 01, 2019, 03:58:29 PM
Brent, you check this out?

The more I listened the more I liked it.

Lowdz might like this..

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0351831668_10.jpg)

Whoah. HUGE Daredevil fan. What is this?!
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Post by: TAC on February 06, 2019, 08:57:41 AM: It’s a new album by a Spanish band I think. Has an early 80’s vibe. Kind of like Klaus Meine singing for Quiet Riot circa 1983. It’s definitely worth a listen. I’m digging it (and purchased it).
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Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2019, 10:49:21 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 06, 2019, 08:57:41 AM
It’s a new album by a Spanish band I think. Has an early 80’s vibe. Kind of like Klaus Meine singing for Quiet Riot circa 1983. It’s definitely worth a listen. I’m digging it (and purchased it).

Had a listen to a track the other night after your recommendation. Liked it, will delve further 🤘

Your musical taste hasnt completely disappeared up your arse with all thesegrowls 😀
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Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2019, 11:33:34 AM: Don’t know if I dare listen to 5he Yngwie track. The snippet on the Facebook advert was bad enough.

And Ethan Brosh is a very good player. His sister Nili is too. She played with TMac a while ago.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2019, 11:43:03 AM: Ok, I listened and it was about what I expected. Shit. I think I could actually do better. I reckon the rest of the album will sound exactly the same as that song. Mindless noodling that goes nowhere.

Apparently it’s a tribute to the blues players that inspired him. So that will be Hendrix and Blackmore then.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2019, 11:55:55 AM: I keep waiting for this thread to flip over to the 300 page mark. I don't recall ever seen a thread go 300 pages here at DTF - the mods usually like to keep things tidy and clean.

:metal
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 06, 2019, 12:12:56 PM: Yngwie trying to play the blues is like Bob Dylan covering Iron Maiden.
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Post by: Samsara on February 06, 2019, 12:30:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2019, 11:55:55 AM
I keep waiting for this thread to flip over to the 300 page mark. I don't recall ever seen a thread go 300 pages here at DTF - the mods usually like to keep things tidy and clean.

:metal

Mod restart in 3...2...1..
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2019, 01:50:04 PM: Fortunately, none of them ever come in here (we're too :hat for them) so unless someone rats us out ...
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Post by: Samsara on February 06, 2019, 02:39:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2019, 01:50:04 PM
Fortunately, none of them ever come in here (we're too :hat for them) so unless someone rats us out ...

TAC has probably already cashed us in for a fancy custom title and bosk1's undying devotion.
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Post by: TAC on February 06, 2019, 02:43:33 PM: Quote from: Samsara on February 06, 2019, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2019, 01:50:04 PM
Fortunately, none of them ever come in here (we're too :hat for them) so unless someone rats us out ...

TAC has probably already cashed us in for a fancy custom title and bosk1's undying devotion.

I've been trying but I can't afford his asking price.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 06, 2019, 02:45:54 PM: I would like to see at least one more Fifth Angel album before they call it quits. I think with Ed back in the band the sound will hopefully go back to the sound of the first two albums. Third Secret is a kick ass album, but like Brian said, not really the FA sound at all.

Hopefully this new singer can do the first two albums justice.
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Post by: TAC on February 06, 2019, 02:48:47 PM: I don't find the first two FA all that similar. Third Secret is fantastic, and honestly, I don't give a shit what they do or don't do from here on out. To me, The Third Secret's main selling point was the vocals anyway.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2019, 02:50:32 PM: As soon as Kendall got that John Payne style goatee beard I knew something must be wrong :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 06, 2019, 02:52:23 PM: It's just like in wrestling. Whenever someone grows a beard or goatee, they usually turn heel. Kendall turned heel on Fifth Angel lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2019, 04:57:19 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 06, 2019, 02:48:47 PM
I don't find the first two FA all that similar. Third Secret is fantastic, and honestly, I don't give a shit what they do or don't do from here on out. To me, The Third Secret's main selling point was the vocals anyway.

All of this really. Kendall's lead playing was also a highlight for me. I don't think I'd give a shit at all about them anymore with him not in the band.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 07, 2019, 05:15:19 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 06, 2019, 02:45:54 PM
Third Secret is a kick ass album, but like Brian said, not really the FA sound at all.

This is probably why I like The Third Secret so much. The first 2 FA albums were kinda 'meh' for my tastes.

Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2019, 04:57:19 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 06, 2019, 02:48:47 PM
I don't find the first two FA all that similar. Third Secret is fantastic, and honestly, I don't give a shit what they do or don't do from here on out. To me, The Third Secret's main selling point was the vocals anyway.

All of this really. Kendall's lead playing was also a highlight for me. I don't think I'd give a shit at all about them anymore with him not in the band.

I'll pile on with these thoughts
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Post by: Lowdz on February 07, 2019, 01:10:32 PM: Another new Tesla track. Nothing very exciting and more Def Lep than the band who recorded Mechanical Resonance and GReatRadio Controversy.

https://youtu.be/GCxRVi6vEbA
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 07, 2019, 01:14:27 PM: Not really feelin' it, and as someone in the comments already said, sounds more like AC/DC meets Def Lep than Tesla.
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Post by: Samsara on February 07, 2019, 01:23:32 PM: Kendall has always had a fantastic singing voice. If you can find a copy, get James Byrd's Crimes of Virtuosity album. It featured "Kendall Tory" on vocals. That's Kendall Bechtel. Nice little gem in the power metal meets guitar virtuoso genre.

As for Fifth Angel, I don't think the first two sound alike in style (one was metal, the other was sleek hard rock). But listen to the rhythm guitars, and the style used throughout. All that is Ed's writing. And you'll hear the similarity.

As for The Third Secret, it misses that rhythm guitar style quite a bit. And while I think Kendall did a fantastic job on the guitars, he's just not the rhythm player that Ed is. His leads are incredible though.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 07, 2019, 02:57:29 PM: Page 300.

:woot:

:jingleboy:
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Post by: TAC on February 07, 2019, 03:05:01 PM: (Saved for gif or meme when I get home) :metal

Edit: Forget it. Not gonna beat that! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2019, 03:33:54 PM: Happy 300th :metal

(https://i.imgur.com/P80Mgk5.gif)

There's a guy who posts this gif on a local football forum here every time something good happens and it's become extremely popular (not sure why) - thought it might be time to share it here :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 07, 2019, 04:33:00 PM: Hammers are always good :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on February 08, 2019, 12:35:04 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 07, 2019, 03:33:54 PM
Happy 300th :metal

(https://i.imgur.com/P80Mgk5.gif)

There's a guy who posts this gif on a local football forum here every time something good happens and it's become extremely popular (not sure why) - thought it might be time to share it here :lol

Worth copying to celebrate.

We are Sparta!!!
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Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2019, 02:16:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 07, 2019, 03:33:54 PM
Happy 300th :metal

(https://i.imgur.com/P80Mgk5.gif)

There's a guy who posts this gif on a local football forum here every time something good happens and it's become extremely popular (not sure why) - thought it might be time to share it here :lol

And again.
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Post by: Art on February 09, 2019, 07:36:17 AM: And there's yet another new project with Ripper Owens. Now it's a band called A New Revenge (formerly Project Rock) with Rudy Sarzo, James Kottak, and Keri Kelli.

This is much more Hard Rock than metal, and i was really thinking it would sound awful, but the track The Way is kind of cool. Nothing to write home about, but it's not bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLP3US8M3DA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLP3US8M3DA)

edit: wrong Ozzy bass player :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2019, 04:04:19 PM: Yeah - that's Phil Soussan from the mighty The Ultimate Sin :lol That really is a band of journeymen/guns for hire/guys who get fired a lot........however you want to look at it.

Pretty basic stuff but I thought it was pretty decent with the chorus letting the song down quite a bit.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2019, 07:13:47 PM: It's solid, but the chorus throws me off a bit and isn't what I would have expected. Maybe Ripper singing just straight up hard rock is what is throwing me off. Good tune though.
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2019, 03:44:11 AM: Quote from: Art on February 09, 2019, 07:36:17 AM
And there's yet another new project with Ripper Owens. Now it's a band called A New Revenge (formerly Project Rock) with Rudy Sarzo, James Kottak, and Keri Kelli.

This is much more Hard Rock than metal, and i was really thinking it would sound awful, but the track The Way is kind of cool. Nothing to write home about, but it's not bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLP3US8M3DA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLP3US8M3DA)

edit: wrong Ozzy bass player :lol :lol :lol

I actually REALLY liked that, awesome tune.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 10, 2019, 04:39:01 AM: It’s piqued my interest but was going to say the chorus wasn’t big enough, but I see I’m not alone. This is the first time I’ve enjoyed Ripper’s voice.

Frontiers have announced a new project with Reb Beach, Robin McCauley and Jeff Paulson. No name or music yet.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2019, 05:05:33 AM: Hopefully Jeff Paulson and Mike Slayer do something together. :D
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Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2019, 02:51:10 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 10, 2019, 04:39:01 AM
It’s piqued my interest but was going to say the chorus wasn’t big enough, but I see I’m not alone. This is the first time I’ve enjoyed Ripper’s voice.

Frontiers have announced a new project with Reb Beach, Robin McCauley and Jeff Paulson. No name or music yet.

You taking the piss bro?
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2019, 01:10:14 PM: Nah, fucking autocorrect and my eyes are too bad to see it 😀. Getting old is shit, don’t do it!
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2019, 01:33:44 PM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 13, 2019, 10:10:33 AM: For Chad's Secret Santa next year..

(https://www.streetconnexion.fr/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/image/1000x1000/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/v/a/vans-era-x-led-zeppelin-vn0a38frt5z1-001.jpg)

http://bravewords.com/news/led-zeppelin-joins-forces-with-vans-for-new-line-of-shoes-and-apparel-photos
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Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2019, 11:37:29 PM: or Paul :)

I am finally getting around to recovering from a system drive death on my PC - so here is some more music for you folks. This is a big show and was actually the first I worked on with regard to 2017. So it has the old intro and I am talking about the brand new (upcoming) Judas Priest album with Ben :lol

If you can ignore the weird time machine feeling then , as per usual , I think everyone will find plenty to enjoy (both bands you know and don't know).

Cheers

This is Best of the Rest Pt 1 : ~~https://yadi.sk/d/nswrHXDlhhcNFQ~~
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Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2019, 11:59:53 PM: :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2019, 01:10:41 AM: There actually seems to be some degree of corruption of that file during the upload process (possibly due to my PC being half dead) so will re-upload and attach a different link asap
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Post by: wolfking on February 14, 2019, 03:54:03 AM: Didn't know too much awesomeness is classed as corruption.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 14, 2019, 04:43:32 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 14, 2019, 03:54:03 AM
Didn't know too much awesomeness classed as corruption.

The interwebz can't handle Brent's awesomeness.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2019, 11:38:48 AM: :)

Looks like it was more than just the upload. I believe I can sort it out by re-doing the first 5 mins or so - hopefully that's it and I will have it ready over the weekend.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2019, 06:51:32 PM: OK...........this system drive crash has really played havoc with the Audacity software I use (which is already pretty slow and difficult when dealing with mp3) even though I have a brand new Windows install on a brand new SSD......and I had all the files on a different physical drive. Perhaps I had them open when the system went down or something and there has somehow been some effect on the files themselves.

Anyway - the end result is that the show I wanted to release has a rather weird first minute with a random bit of Galactic Empire (star wars metallers) kicking in straight away at fairly decent volume - so watch your volume in the first few seconds - and then it's pretty much back to normal with the intro etc..... I don't seem to be able to edit the project and the mp3 is large enough to crash any other mp3 splitter/editor program I have tried, so it's a choice between ditching the whole show and starting again (ain't happening) or just living with that weird first minute. The way things are around here at the moment I can't re-record this show so hopefully you guys can live with an iffy first minute and watch that volume in the first few seconds.

Aside from also losing a little bit of work at the start of the Part 2 show that will require some editing (that show is also mostly done) it appears I should be right moving forward with other stuff that was in the works.

Try this and see how we go

https://yadi.sk/d/1EmCkBnyo-slCg
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 14, 2019, 07:41:29 PM: Guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow morning!

:happydance:
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2019, 08:02:01 PM: Nice, thanks Brent. I'll grab it when I get home from work tomorrow.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2019, 08:31:28 PM: Good stuff - already 5 mystery downloaders and a few more listening online so , whoever you are out there , hope you enjoy it :)

You'll be needing a tracklist at some point , so here it is

https://yadi.sk/i/MElBI6hCxuX7-A
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Post by: Art on February 15, 2019, 03:40:41 AM: Must confess that i really liked the new Spirits Of Fire single, "It's Everywhere". More of a mid tempo song, cool guitar work by Caffery.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2019, 04:23:20 AM: Holy carp!!! 1GB file. This is gonna be awesome!
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2019, 05:05:45 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 15, 2019, 04:23:20 AM
Holy carp!!! 1GB file. This is gonna be awesome!

Oh wow. Looks like I may have to download this one at work. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2019, 05:41:26 AM: Some more new Queensryche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqakLXgIKI&app=desktop
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2019, 06:34:29 AM: Brent ... you listen to the new Herman Frank yet? 'twas ok imo, nothing that came even close to wow'g me.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 15, 2019, 12:26:38 PM: New Whitesnake. It’s got that Frontiers riff.
T not great but I enjoyed it more when I didn’t look at the screen. Can’t watch Coverdaleks grimacing when he sings.

https://youtu.be/hKMwGzOmtsE
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2019, 02:58:25 PM: That song was awful.
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2019, 02:59:40 PM: Holy shit, new LORD!! Get this into ya!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCV0vXFxUzA
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2019, 04:08:09 PM: I thought that new QR was the best of the three they have released so far from the new album. Whitesnake was solid, not great but not terrible.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2019, 04:36:04 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 15, 2019, 06:34:29 AM
Brent ... you listen to the new Herman Frank yet? 'twas ok imo, nothing that came even close to wow'g me.

No I haven't Chad - I put him in the "know what I am going to get" basket.

Quote from: wolfking on February 15, 2019, 02:59:40 PM
Holy shit, new LORD!! Get this into ya!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCV0vXFxUzA

Not their best/most original but I am a sucker for their thrashy riffs combined with huge melodies/shred solos............looking forward to it.

Quote from: Lowdz on February 15, 2019, 12:26:38 PM
New Whitesnake. It’s got that Frontiers riff.
T not great but I enjoyed it more when I didn’t look at the screen. Can’t watch Coverdaleks grimacing when he sings.

https://youtu.be/hKMwGzOmtsE

Sounds like Slip of the Tongue era Whitesnake done by Winger. And classic (shit) Frontiers cheesy video. Tim is gonna love this :metal
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Post by: TAC on February 15, 2019, 04:45:30 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2019, 04:36:04 PM
Sounds like Slip of the Tongue era Whitesnake done by Winger. And classic (shit) Frontiers cheesy video. Tim is gonna love this :metal

Oh God. that sounds dreadful! :lol

Just downloaded the podcast. Holy shit Brent! 7 1/2 hours??
I'm on a staycation next week. Looking forward to it.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 16, 2019, 04:08:32 PM: Leatherwolf have just announced that Olivieri is out again (gone country apparently :-\ ) and they have some mystery new singer. That leaves only Dean Roberts (drums) who has any real history with the band.

Anyway - a new demo with the new singer

https://clyp.it/pngyxw2y/
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Post by: TAC on February 16, 2019, 04:44:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 16, 2019, 04:08:32 PM
Leatherwolf have just announced that Olivieri is out again (gone country apparently :-\ ) and they have some mystery new singer. That leaves only Dean Roberts (drums) who has any real history with the band.

Anyway - a new demo with the new singer

https://clyp.it/pngyxw2y/

So Ripper, Ronnie Romero?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2019, 04:06:44 AM: Sounds like an unknown to me Tim. Speaking of which the Fifth Angel guy did a reasonable job at his first go - guitar solo was messy but the vocals (allowing for Youtube) sound okay and early reports from those that were there are positive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuTMN9xlT7U&t=5s
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 17, 2019, 04:37:16 AM: Speaking of Romero, no surprise that Lords of Black replaced him with Diego Valdez. Should at least sound[/i/ like a smooth transition.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2019, 05:04:25 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 16, 2019, 04:08:32 PM
Leatherwolf have just announced that Olivieri is out again (gone country apparently :-\ ) and they have some mystery new singer. That leaves only Dean Roberts (drums) who has any real history with the band.

Anyway - a new demo with the new singer

https://clyp.it/pngyxw2y/

He did go country previously didn’t he?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2019, 05:14:32 AM: Yep - exciting stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSsriSYCfw
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 17, 2019, 02:57:43 PM: The Fifth Angel singer sounds promising.

I know zero country songs but I do know that hot women tend to go to country concerts. That's the only reason I can think that Olivieri quit Leatherwolf and went country. Maybe a bit more money too lol.
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Post by: TAC on February 17, 2019, 03:02:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2019, 05:14:32 AM
Yep - exciting stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSsriSYCfw

Holy shit does that blow!
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Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2019, 05:36:27 AM: :)

Just having a listen to an advance of the new DT. FWIW my opinion is that Labrie's vocal melodies and effects are starting to get stale. Much of it is reminiscent of DT12 , just not as good/original. Standouts for me are Fall Into The Light (sounded much better second/third time around) and At Wit's End , which is probably the early favourite. Untethered Angel was really DT by the numbers and I could say that about half the album.

On the whole I have been a fan of the more melodic/song focused writing they have been doing since Mangini arrived , but this sits below DT 12 and ADTOE at this stage. Still far better than most of the post Awake era though for me.

Low 80s sorta deal.

PS I would get the version with Viper King if you can - it has a nice bluesy groove and is a bit different to what you'd expect from DT.
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2019, 06:43:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2019, 05:36:27 AM
On the whole I have been a fan of the more melodic/song focused writing they have been doing since Mangini arrived , but this sits below DT 12 and ADTOE at this stage. Still far better than most of the post Awake era though for me.

It's a lot like ADTOE, where I usually start listening to that at the third song. This album will likely be no different. As far as JLB, I loved the different vocal stylings they used, like in Room 137. It's a new wrinkle for DT. But it lacks that high end climactic voice. Not sure performancewise, JLB shines, but there's great variety in the vocals, and I like that.

I definitely rate it over DT12 though. In fact I busted out Illumination Theory last night, and confirmed it.

This album is groovy as hell, and has all sorts of crazy parts. I love the fact that JP isn't reliant on speed throughout. He has many tasty solos.

Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2019, 05:36:27 AM
Standouts for me are Fall Into The Light (sounded much better second/third time around) and At Wit's End , which is probably the early favourite.

I agree. In fact, they should've closed the album with At Wits End.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 18, 2019, 08:47:44 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2019, 05:36:27 AM
:)

Just having a listen to an advance of the new DT. FWIW my opinion is that Labrie's vocal melodies and effects are starting to get stale. Much of it is reminiscent of DT12 , just not as good/original. Standouts for me are Fall Into The Light (sounded much better second/third time around) and At Wit's End , which is probably the early favourite. Untethered Angel was really DT by the numbers and I could say that about half the album.

On the whole I have been a fan of the more melodic/song focused writing they have been doing since Mangini arrived , but this sits below DT 12 and ADTOE at this stage. Still far better than most of the post Awake era though for me.

Low 80s sorta deal.

PS I would get the version with Viper King if you can - it has a nice bluesy groove and is a bit different to what you'd expect from DT.

Viper King is my favourite so far. I agree about the melodies and JLB. I have been a staunch defender of him but those parts are the weakness.
I’m starting to wonder if I’ve reached the limit of music I’m going to love. I’m really struggling to love anything at the moment and if DT can’t do it, there’s very little else out there that will.

Still, it’s early days.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2019, 12:35:55 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 18, 2019, 08:47:44 AM
I’m starting to wonder if I’ve reached the limit of music I’m going to love. I’m really struggling to love anything at the moment and if DT can’t do it, there’s very little else out there that will.

Sounds like you need an intervention. And by intervention, I mean roulette. Dude, you're not looking hard enough if you're struggling to love anything. There's lots of wow-worthy stuff - both new that you don't know of, and older stuff that you missed catching.
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2019, 12:47:35 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 18, 2019, 12:35:55 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 18, 2019, 08:47:44 AM
I’m starting to wonder if I’ve reached the limit of music I’m going to love. I’m really struggling to love anything at the moment and if DT can’t do it, there’s very little else out there that will.

Sounds like you need an intervention. And by intervention, I mean roulette.

That was me over the last couple of years. That's the point I decided to have a roulette with people that I had no interactions or anything in common with. One of the most "worth it" things I've ever done.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2019, 02:14:11 PM: I know what Paul is feeling. A roulette definitely would get some juices flowing again. Paul, even if you don't pick up any new favourites from a roulette. A good six weeks or so of listening to totally different music is really what could be on order.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2019, 02:24:29 PM: Listened to the Starbreaker and I gotta say, I think the production is really above par. Has that compressed sound like all modern day albums do, but you can still hear everything clearly and it just sounds really clear and beefy. And Magnus' guitar tones are as JP would say, chocolate mud cake.

As a whole only one listen, but it feels like there has been some effort put into this but at the same time it sounds very rushed, I know that probably doesn't make sense. Just sounds like a quick 9 songs put together and a relevant cover song. I quite like what is here, but there should be more. Should be something heavier and more epic and there is too many ballad type songs. I found this interesting the lack of heavier numbers here. Especially when the intro track is a ripper. Tony although sounds amazing and for the little that's here, Magnus has done extremely well to get the best out of him and to write songs that showcase his voice. I hope they do another project but sit down and move away from the Frontiers mold and do something a bit more inspired like the debut, because it's evident here it could still be in them. Magnus' guitar work sounds like all one takers too. You can tell he's getting complacent with his leads and improvising a lot of what is going on here. Some parts of the solos are just very self indulgent and again you can tell these have been whipped up very quickly. Saying all that, Pure Evil and How Many More Goodbyes are as good as anything Magnus has written IMO.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2019, 03:09:57 PM: Very well put, Kade. It's definitely a HUGE step up from Love's Dying Wish. Outside a couple of good tracks, I thought that was a turd. Dysphoria is really good start to finish, but lacks a certain something that made the debut so damned good. Production is very good, I'll grant that.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2019, 03:33:29 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 18, 2019, 03:09:57 PM
Very well put, Kade. It's definitely a HUGE step up from Love's Dying Wish. Outside a couple of good tracks, I thought that was a turd. Dysphoria is really good start to finish, but lacks a certain something that made the debut so damned good. Production is very good, I'll grant that.

I liked Love's Dying Wish because they were trying to do something a bit different. I can see you not liking it, but it had a bit of charm for me. Seems like Magnus is saving all his really good stuff for Primal Fear these days.
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Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2019, 03:37:05 PM: I'm also halfway through the new Evergrey. Damn, this is some heavy shit here. Almost to the point where every song is sounding very similar. I'll even go as far that a lot of stuff going on here reminds me heavily of Korn. I'll reserve judgement until I've had a full listen or two, I'm liking it, just surprised at the direction of it. It really really annoys me though that Tom is soloing less and less. Halfway through I think he only played one short solo on one song. Henrik is good but his style is too abstract for too many songs, and needs Tom's sense of melody and phrasing to change things up a bit. Tom is so much better than Henrik when it comes to guitar solos IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 18, 2019, 03:52:28 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 18, 2019, 12:35:55 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 18, 2019, 08:47:44 AM
I’m starting to wonder if I’ve reached the limit of music I’m going to love. I’m really struggling to love anything at the moment and if DT can’t do it, there’s very little else out there that will.

Sounds like you need an intervention. And by intervention, I mean roulette. Dude, you're not looking hard enough if you're struggling to love anything. There's lots of wow-worthy stuff - both new that you don't know of, and older stuff that you missed catching.

Oh I’ve sampledplenty, andenjoyed some. Just not loving it.

See how I totally ignored the roulette bit? 😀
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2019, 03:56:33 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 18, 2019, 03:52:28 PM
I totally roulette

Awesome!

I'm in!
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2019, 05:19:40 PM: TAC: Putting things out of context like Stadler defends Trump.
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Post by: TAC on February 18, 2019, 07:37:36 PM: After having D/T fall into my lap, I'm finally starting the podcast.

Caught Ben's thanks. That's cute! :metal

7 Miles to Pittsburgh? :lol Wow that blew! I prefer 10 miles to Columbus! :lol
Appreciate the Alice. Not the song I would've picked, but cool nonetheless.
American Mafia was really cool. promptly Saved them on Spotify.

Just going to make it through the first 6 tonight...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 19, 2019, 02:31:17 AM: So I found this track on YouTube and liked it, played the album on Spotify. All was going well until a cover of Da Doo Ron Ron came up. WTF 😱

Anyway, decent track with that Deep Purple vibe they love in Japan. Singer manages to hide the Japanese accent very well. Like a Japanese Dougie White.

https://youtu.be/wJiHX0k1SEE
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 22, 2019, 01:38:25 PM: First listen to the new DT. First impression: didn't mind the vocal melodies. But this is a guitar album, JR is mostly taking a back seat. And it's their heaviest since Train Of Thought.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2019, 04:17:40 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 19, 2019, 02:31:17 AM
So I found this track on YouTube and liked it, played the album on Spotify. All was going well until a cover of Da Doo Ron Ron came up. WTF

Anyway, decent track with that Deep Purple vibe they love in Japan. Singer manages to hide the Japanese accent very well. Like a Japanese Dougie White.

https://youtu.be/wJiHX0k1SEE
Pretty good - that's about as powerful a Japanese vocalist as I have heard (not saying much :lol )

Quote from: Kwyjibo on February 22, 2019, 01:38:25 PM
First listen to the new DT. First impression: didn't mind the vocal melodies. But this is a guitar album, JR is mostly taking a back seat. And it's their heaviest since Train Of Thought.

I need to give it a few more listens to see if it grows to the point where I am feeling the huge wave of positivity being given in the DT threads. I am rapt that they have released an album that has so impressed most of the DT crowd but it'd be even better if I was really enjoying more than 3 or 4 songs.
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Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2019, 05:06:17 PM: Gonna go out and pick up a physical copy today. Not expecting much to be honest from the first 3 songs.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2019, 05:38:23 PM: After The Astonishing, I'm definitely in no rush to go out and get the new Dream Theater. But I'm curious to hear what you guys think of it and that might change my mind. The new Queensryche on the other hand will be a first day purchase based on the three released tracks, which I've all liked, and the early positive reviews.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2019, 09:22:04 PM: I gave 'er a spin on Spotify this morning. I'd say it's a 100x better than The Astonishing, but 100 * 0 is still zero. :rollin

It's good, worth going out and finding a physical copy - though I really don't know where I might find one. I think my local mall still has an HMV, and there's a few Best Buy's around, but I thought they dropped carrying CDs??
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Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2019, 04:52:15 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 22, 2019, 05:06:17 PM
Gonna go out and pick up a physical copy today. Not expecting much to be honest from the first 3 songs.

A few listens in now and it’s grown on me hugely. First three songs they released are probably the weakest. Still not a big fan of the opener - too reminiscent of On The Backs Of Angels, which I never liked, but everything else is quality.

My biggest criticism is that it’s too short, even with the awesome bonus track. That’s a great mix of Deep Purple and Sabbath

But I love The Astonishing so take all that with a pinch of salt 😀
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Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2019, 04:54:27 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 22, 2019, 09:22:04 PM
I gave 'er a spin on Spotify this morning. I'd say it's a 100x better than The Astonishing, but 100 * 0 is still zero. :rollin

It's good, worth going out and finding a physical copy - though I really don't know where I might find one. I think my local mall still has an HMV, and there's a few Best Buy's around, but I thought they dropped carrying CDs??

Went to my local hmv this week to get the Avantasia but they didn’t have it. Can’t be bothered to go there again on the off chance they have the DT. Amazon it is.

Oh, but I did pick up the latest Stratovarius for next to nothing 😀
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 23, 2019, 06:53:09 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 22, 2019, 09:22:04 PM
I gave 'er a spin on Spotify this morning. I'd say it's a 100x better than The Astonishing, but 100 * 0 is still zero. :rollin

It's good, worth going out and finding a physical copy - though I really don't know where I might find one. I think my local mall still has an HMV, and there's a few Best Buy's around, but I thought they dropped carrying CDs??

Do you not have Sunrise Records?. Believe it or not a new Sunrise Records opened up at the mall nearest me a few months ago. Every time I go in there it’s fairly busy and that’s cool to see. Hopefully it stays open. Plus Walmart still sells physical copies here.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2019, 07:03:33 AM: No... no Sunrise anywhere near me. Might be one downtown Toronto :dunno:

Forgot about Wal-mart... probably because that's where I bought the Astonishing, and I try to put EVERYTHING about that album out of my mind. :lol :'( :'(
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Post by: TAC on February 23, 2019, 07:08:33 AM: The Astonishing is awesome.

If anyone cares, here is my Astonishing Abridged version:

https://open.spotify.com/user/tacdtf/playlist/1vESXL238jGArSrka94iLx?si=MUY6T2VpTjWMKVU1vGlefA

I'd put that up against anything they have.
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Post by: Big Hath on February 23, 2019, 12:27:12 PM: was hoping to click on that link and find an empty playlist, because that is how I listen to it these days.
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Post by: TAC on February 23, 2019, 12:39:00 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on February 23, 2019, 12:27:12 PM
was hoping to click on that link and find an empty playlist, because that is how I listen to it these days.

That's not right.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2019, 02:12:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 23, 2019, 12:39:00 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on February 23, 2019, 12:27:12 PM
was hoping to click on that link and find an empty playlist, because that is how I listen to it these days.

That's not right.

Au contraire. He's so 'right', I ought to refer to him as Orville or Wilbur.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 23, 2019, 02:19:25 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 23, 2019, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 23, 2019, 12:39:00 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on February 23, 2019, 12:27:12 PM
was hoping to click on that link and find an empty playlist, because that is how I listen to it these days.

That's not right.

Au contraire. He's so 'right', I ought to refer to him as Orville or Wilbur.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Machine_turning_over_with_Orville_Wright_aboard%2C_Kitty_Hawk%2C_NC%2C_1911.10470_A.S.%29.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 03:40:57 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 23, 2019, 07:08:33 AM
The Astonishing is awesome.

If anyone cares, here is my Astonishing Abridged version:

https://open.spotify.com/user/tacdtf/playlist/1vESXL238jGArSrka94iLx?si=MUY6T2VpTjWMKVU1vGlefA

I'd put that up against anything they have.

No thanks.
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Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 04:09:59 AM: I just finished my first listen to this album. Well, up to Out of Reach was in the car, the rest on my PC. Even though it was only a single listen, I was actually very impressed. I had ZERO expectations for this and the first three songs didn't rock me. The opener works very well actually and I like it more now I have the album.

Paralyzed sounds fucking great and heavy in the car, that's a solid tune. Fall Into the Light I just don't get. The structure is all over the place and the song itself seems very incohesive. Maybe more listens will fix that. The first minute is killer. Barstool Warrior I liked too. Has that Rush feel DT like to go for and even sounded a bit old school DT at times to me. Room 137 is weird and original as fuck. Can't remember much from it yet but kudos for the band doing something different.

S2N might be my fav on first listen. Heavy, great melodic chorus, JP putting in one amazing solo and really just the band killing it on all fronts. Love this one. TDEN ending made me laugh, but I dig it. At Wit's End is also probably going to be a fav. Can't remember much, but the ending is brilliant. Out of Reach seems like a great ballad with a nice structure. Pale Blue Dot seems to deliver the goods but I need to crank this one in the car. Viper King made me laugh, thank fuck this is a bonus track. I'm kind of wishing I got the standard edition without this song.

I'll listen to this one a bit. The Astonishing was one of the biggest pieces of shit that one of my favourite bands has dished up and I almost disowned DT because of it. It still hurts. Having no expectations for this one will help but this is a heavy ass fucking cool album. You know what it seems like that I like? It's the band doing whatever they feel and not doing music that people expect. Nothing over 10 minutes, no endless Outcry style wanking, no piano based puke inducing ballads, original pieces and just doing things a bit different. Not following any structures or stereotypes here and the band just being creative without limits.

I could be wrong also, but I think At Wit's End and Pale Blue Dot should swap places, seems obvious.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 24, 2019, 04:25:10 AM: I can’t remeb DT ever really doing a bluesy tune like Room 137 before. I like it.
Thought you would like the bonus track Kade. It rocks.
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Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 04:31:05 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 24, 2019, 04:25:10 AM
I can’t remeb DT ever really doing a bluesy tune like Room 137 before. I like it.
Thought you would like the bonus track Kade. It rocks.

I liked the intro a lot, but the rest seemed pretty cheesy, just different I guess. I will crank it in the car tomorrow.
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Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 04:33:50 AM: I also picked up the new King Diamond live CD/DVD. Fuck me 40 bucks and the packaging is a joke. Standard 2 cd digipak with the 2 DVD's and a seperate cardboard sleeve for the cd that just falls out when you open it up. Not cool.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2019, 05:56:19 AM: For the guitarists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u8-RTJkM_g

First (top) comment is a ripper :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 24, 2019, 06:17:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 04:09:59 AM

I could be wrong also, but I think At Wit's End and Pale Blue Dot should swap places, seems obvious.

I actually said the same thing in the D/T thread.
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Post by: Big Hath on February 24, 2019, 08:24:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 04:09:59 AM
no piano based puke inducing ballads

thank goodness
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2019, 05:00:01 PM: A couple of miscellaneous relics I found in a box today - they'll likely only mean anything to Paul but you never know.

Here is the little bible of young guitar players in the mid 80's.............this is the 2nd version (1985) ever produced of the Boss Pocket Dictionary. It was a time when pedals were really taking off and there was huge excitement among guitarists as to what would be added in the next year's edition

(https://i.postimg.cc/LX54YdF5/IMG-1439.jpg)

And a very early (6th -1995) version of Frontiers magazine - long before there was a Frontiers label but no doubt the name of this magazine was a forerunner to that. This was a terrible time for the scene and the only colour is on the outside cover . It's basically just a stapled together bunch of B&W sheets with very primitive looking news/reviews. It includes Threshold's Psychedelicatessen which is likely where I first discovered them
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNbDYvdk/IMG-1440.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KzSQ4bMr/IMG-1441.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 05:02:18 PM: Gotta love the classic BOSS pedals. :hefdaddy
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Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2019, 05:04:14 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 05:02:18 PM
Gotta love the classic BOSS pedals. :hefdaddy

I believe I have 4 remaining somewhere (all from that mid-late 80's period) - Heavy Metal, Digital Delay , T-Wah and Hi-Band Flanger - all pretty much as new in boxes.

Speaking of that era, I also have one of the best stage rig processors of the time in an aluminium case etc.... (The Edge made it famous after I did :P) - the Korg A3 ;D

Good times for rock and metal.
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Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 05:10:20 PM: I have 3 or 4 boss pedals too. I think chorus, acoustic sim and a couple of others I can't even remember. Still got a pedal box with them and a wah. :hefdaddy
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Post by: TAC on February 24, 2019, 05:24:11 PM: Bone Machine?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2019, 05:28:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 24, 2019, 05:24:11 PM
Bone Machine?

A solo project/collaboration that Ted Poley did after leaving Danger Danger. Pretty demo-ish stuff overall.
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Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 05:29:23 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 24, 2019, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 24, 2019, 05:24:11 PM
Bone Machine?

A solo project/collaboration that Ted Poley did after leaving Danger Danger. Pretty demo-ish stuff overall.

It didn't really work for him so he went with a porn movie instead with the same name.
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Post by: TAC on February 24, 2019, 05:30:15 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 24, 2019, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 24, 2019, 05:24:11 PM
Bone Machine?

A solo project/collaboration that Ted Poley did after leaving Danger Danger. Pretty demo-ish stuff overall.

So...Bone Machine..by Pole-y? :rollin
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Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2019, 05:35:39 PM: Well his last album with D2 (Screw It!) featured songs like Horny SOB etc..............so it wasn't all that surprising :)
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Post by: Big Hath on February 24, 2019, 07:54:55 PM: and Slipped Her the Big One, and don't forget the classic Yeah, You Want It!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 24, 2019, 10:37:49 PM: Bone Machine, Screw it, Slipped her the Big One, Horny SOB. I’m assuming these songs won’t make your podcast with Ben lol.

I just finished seeing Great White and Slaughter. Is anyone familiar with Mitch Malloy, the new lead singer for Great White? I’m assuming Brent would be familiar with the Van Halen story with Mitch. There is a 15 minute documentary on YouTube with how Mitch became the lead singer for Van Halen for one month in 1996. It’s a pretty cool story and the part where Mitch is watching the mtv awards and Roth comes out with VH and he said to himself “this isn’t good for me” is pretty funny.

Clearly Eddie at some point would have fired Mitch and it wouldn’t have worked out long term, but I think Mitch would have been a much better fit for VH than Gary was.

Any way it was a pretty good show and both bands were better than I was expecting. Lots of cougars in the crowd so that makes it better than it probably was lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 24, 2019, 10:56:50 PM: And in a few weeks I’m seeing a triple bill at the same venue with Helix, Killer Dwarfs and Kick Axe!
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Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2019, 11:37:34 PM: A couple of good gigs there Jay - dare I ask how Mark Slaughter's voice was ? :lol

I am familiar with Mitch Malloy and the VH story. I have a couple of solo albums from Mitch - his debut is very solid melodic rock with one or two standouts. He has a very clean voice - probably a bit too clean for Great White or VH in my opinion but he's a great guy with perfect hair and wonderful teeth :) . Personally I think JSS would've been great for VH - or Ralph Saenz if they wanted a DLR clone (only better)
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 25, 2019, 03:00:29 PM: Yeah that’s a good point, his voice might be a little too clean for GW or VH. But he had good charisma and definitely did the GW songs justice. Hair was good too.

Mark did alright. It’s a casino gig so Slaughter only played 8 of 9 songs and GW did 10. I like this casino for the concerts. Bands play right on time, setlists are just hits and it’s easy to get out when it’s over.
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Post by: Samsara on February 25, 2019, 03:05:13 PM: I have a free front row ticket for Vixen/Great White in April. On the fence whether I am going. I forget if I mentioned it in here, but once Janet Gardner announced she was leaving Vixen (who I had been waiting for 30 years to see), I wrote the casino the gig is being held at, and asked the booking agent for the casino if he'd give me a refund, and why. Turns out, he is a huge 80s metal fan, and he said he'd refund me, but also comp me on the same exact ticket, because he thinks the world of the new singer, and wants me to see her for myself. I'm familiar with her, and she sings well (for the life of me, I am forgetting her name right now, lol), but I'm really on the fence, probably 70-30 NOT going. Great White, with Mitch Malloy, would be an upgrade for sure. I've seen Jack Russell's GW, and seen GW with the last singer. Both were terrible. At least I know MM can sing. :lol

But, I'm pretty sure I am just going to skip the show. I was just at the same venue this weekend, and while not a terrible drive, its either go see the show being disappointed that the singer (Janet Gardner) I wanted to see isn't there any longer on a Saturday night, or hang with the fam. The latter is going to win out.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2019, 03:25:03 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 25, 2019, 03:00:29 PM

Mark did alright. It’s a casino gig so Slaughter only played 8 of 9 songs and GW did 10. I like this casino for the concerts. Bands play right on time, setlists are just hits and it’s easy to get out when it’s over.

Good to gear re Mark - it wasn't so long ago his voice seemed totally gone.

Quote from: Samsara on February 25, 2019, 03:05:13 PM
I'm familiar with her, and she sings well (for the life of me, I am forgetting her name right now, lol), but I'm really on the fence, probably 70-30 NOT going.

I really haven't been following closely but I am guessing Lorraine Lewis (Femme Fatale)?
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Post by: Samsara on February 25, 2019, 03:26:55 PM: Yep, that's her. Lorraine Lewis. I just couldn't remember it. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2019, 07:11:24 PM: If anyone remembers a song from long ago (most likely a hard rock/melodic rock associated artist) that has pretty much the exact same sound as the chugga riff (under keyboards) at the start of Untethered Angel, then let me know. I can't place it and it's annoying the crap out of me :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 25, 2019, 07:14:43 PM: So for the first time in YEARS... I listened to this from front to back:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41XM8K7E97L.jpg)

I realized I didn't have a CD copy, so I ordered it and it was delivered today. This is a great album, and I was totally rocking out.
Holy shit does Vince Neil suck though. Man, I never realized how bad the vocals were. :lol
But like DLR, they were perfect for Motley Crue.

Say what you will, but I love their first two albums, and remember vividly them coming out. I thought Theatre Of Pain blew, and was hugely disappointed, but I saw that tour and it was awesome. GGG was pretty bad, but again, they put on such a great show. Dr. Feelgood is a really good album. That would be the third and final tour I would see from them. After Shout, I was never really a big fan, as I would move into other areas of metal throughout the 80's, but no one put on a better show than they did in the 80's save for Iron Maiden.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 25, 2019, 07:26:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2019, 07:11:24 PM
If anyone remembers a song from long ago (most likely a hard rock/melodic rock associated artist) that has pretty much the exact same sound as the chugga riff (under keyboards) at the start of Untethered Angel, then let me know. I can't place it and it's annoying the crap out of me :lol

Got it!

https://youtu.be/F_IvUZbja_w?t=119
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2019, 07:49:04 PM: ;D

No doubt that chugga style riff under keys appears quite a bit but the one I am thinking of is much closer in both tone and execution.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 25, 2019, 08:39:23 PM: @ TAC... I didn't get 'in' to Crue until Dr. Feelgood. As for the back catalogue, you're spot on. TFFL and SatD are awesome (early) hair metal - METAL. Theatre and GGG as proto-typical hair metal, and blow. Dr. Feelgood blends the best of each. After that, I stopped following them.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2019, 10:19:17 PM: I was never huge into Motley - bit of a "compilation band" for me. I could take a couple of tracks off each album up to Dr Feelgood and have a great listen. Re GGG I always loved Wild Side and All In The Name Of......... I don't see it as bad as many seem to.

The s/t album with Corabi has a very strong reputation out there (not here :) ) but likewise the consensus is it should've been released under a different name.

Re the chugga riff in Untethered Angel...........to preserve my sanity we'll go with this song 24 secs in. Not sure that this is what my subsconscious was referencing but I'll say that's it just to stop me trying to figure it out :lol

Untethered Angel https://youtu.be/gylxuO6dKOw?t=48

Lionsheart: Make Believe https://youtu.be/A8Q2GyKaQ94?t=22
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 26, 2019, 02:58:20 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2019, 10:19:17 PM
I was never huge into Motley - bit of a "compilation band" for me.

For me too, some really killer tunes and a lot of filler on their records.

Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2019, 10:19:17 PM
The s/t album with Corabi has a very strong reputation out there (not here :) ) but likewise the consensus is it should've been released under a different name.

But here :D, I'm not saying it is an all-time classic, but it is the only Crue record I can listen to in full without skipping tracks.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 26, 2019, 03:22:21 AM: I have been meaning to check out that s/t Crue album again to see if time has changed my opinion but it's about no. 5000 on my list of things to check out.
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Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2019, 04:25:32 AM: I have never listened to a MC album. I know a lot of their hits and nothing takes my fancy. I know Chad tried to turn me on but I just never bothered to check out anything past their hits.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 26, 2019, 04:52:31 AM: Man... Kickstart My Heart is one of my fave 80s songs. Wild Side is up there too. So many good memories in the 80s being baked out of my mind watching those videos. Guess I should check out the s/t - I never did like Hooligan's Holiday when it was released. And as a Uni student, my disposable funds went to drinking, not music. There were only a few bands that I kept buying CDs for the period of '92-'96. Crue was not one of them.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 26, 2019, 05:42:24 AM: Knwowing a bit of your music tastes, I bet you will not like it. Kade on the other hand could enjoy the self-titled more than the normal Crue records.
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Post by: Grappler on February 26, 2019, 06:42:29 AM: Has anyone checked out the Walls of Blood album from Glen Drover? This is his big metal project with guest singers. It's not a bad album, but it's fairly standard. If you've heard the Discordia song with Todd LaTorre, then you know what to expect.

It's cool to see he got a few big names to sing a song. Henning Basse gets most of the work, with one song each for Nils K. Rue, Todd LaTorre, Chuck Billy and Ripper Owens, and then a few guys I've never heard about.

"Imperium" track listing:

01. Leave This World Behind (feat. Nils K. Rue)
02. Discordia (feat. Todd La Torre)
03. Waiting To Die (feat. Chuck Billy)
04. Blood Sacrifice Ritual (feat. Henning Nasse)
05. Tarnished Dream (feat. Tim Owens)
06. Walls Of Blood (feat. Matt Cuthbertson)
07. The Fault Of Man (feat. Henning Basse)
08. Dark Lords Of Sleep (feat. Dan Cleary)
09. Junkhead (ALICE IN CHAINS cover) (feat. Lance Harvill)
10. Seven Spirits (feat. Henning Basse)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byAEoiM-L0 - Seven Spirts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNif5pHHFdY - Blood Sacrifice Ritual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3El_cNKe5A4 - Discordia
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 26, 2019, 07:02:22 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on February 26, 2019, 05:42:24 AM
Knwowing a bit of your music tastes, I bet you will not like it. Kade on the other hand could enjoy the self-titled more than the normal Crue records.

Right you were. Wasn't a lot that floated my boat.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 26, 2019, 08:51:11 AM: In regards to the Crue, don't bother with anything beyond the s/t. Generation Swine, New Tattoo and Saints are terrible. Not quite Dedicated to Chaos and The Astonishing terrible, but still bad.

The s/t was solid, but such a different sound it definitely should've been released under a different name.

The first five all have good songs throughout, but also a few duds. Shout and Feelgood are the best of the bunch.
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Post by: Art on February 26, 2019, 10:47:09 AM: The self titled Motley Crue album is indeed really good, IMHO.
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Post by: Samsara on February 26, 2019, 11:14:04 AM: I'm a big fan of Dr. Feelgood and the self-titled that has Corabi on vocals. The rest is really hit and miss. Shout at the Devil is probably third on that list. Then its just a handful of songs from the others (Wild Side from GGG, Home Sweet Home from Theater of Pain, etc.)
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Post by: Lowdz on February 26, 2019, 12:10:02 PM: I’d only bother with the first, Shout At The Devil andDr Feelgood.

There’s 3-4 good tracks on Girls but the rest is poor.

Hated everything after Feelgood. They jumped on the grunge bandwagon,
.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 26, 2019, 02:07:10 PM: They sure changed their sound drastically but I wouldn't call it grunge.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on February 26, 2019, 02:08:50 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 25, 2019, 10:19:17 PM
I was never huge into Motley - bit of a "compilation band" for me. I could take a couple of tracks off each album up to Dr Feelgood and have a great listen. Re GGG I always loved Wild Side and All In The Name Of......... I don't see it as bad as many seem to.

The s/t album with Corabi has a very strong reputation out there (not here :) ) but likewise the consensus is it should've been released under a different name.

Re the chugga riff in Untethered Angel...........to preserve my sanity we'll go with this song 24 secs in. Not sure that this is what my subsconscious was referencing but I'll say that's it just to stop me trying to figure it out :lol

Untethered Angel https://youtu.be/gylxuO6dKOw?t=48

Lionsheart: Make Believe https://youtu.be/A8Q2GyKaQ94?t=22

Pour Some Sugar On Me....?
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Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2019, 02:17:47 PM: Quote from: Grappler on February 26, 2019, 06:42:29 AM
Has anyone checked out the Walls of Blood album from Glen Drover? This is his big metal project with guest singers. It's not a bad album, but it's fairly standard. If you've heard the Discordia song with Todd LaTorre, then you know what to expect.

It's cool to see he got a few big names to sing a song. Henning Basse gets most of the work, with one song each for Nils K. Rue, Todd LaTorre, Chuck Billy and Ripper Owens, and then a few guys I've never heard about.

"Imperium" track listing:

01. Leave This World Behind (feat. Nils K. Rue)
02. Discordia (feat. Todd La Torre)
03. Waiting To Die (feat. Chuck Billy)
04. Blood Sacrifice Ritual (feat. Henning Nasse)
05. Tarnished Dream (feat. Tim Owens)
06. Walls Of Blood (feat. Matt Cuthbertson)
07. The Fault Of Man (feat. Henning Basse)
08. Dark Lords Of Sleep (feat. Dan Cleary)
09. Junkhead (ALICE IN CHAINS cover) (feat. Lance Harvill)
10. Seven Spirits (feat. Henning Basse)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byAEoiM-L0 - Seven Spirts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNif5pHHFdY - Blood Sacrifice Ritual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3El_cNKe5A4 - Discordia

Videos not available for me except for Discordia but I'm a big Drover fan and didn't know a full album was in the works let alone out. I'll be sure to check this out.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 26, 2019, 04:01:19 PM: Bugger. Was jamming on the guitar last night and came up with a cool riff. Fast forward to today and I just watched the video of JP and JR talking about Barstool Warrior and there’s my cool riff 😀. Different key but same riff. I was gutted.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2019, 02:41:43 AM: Some unusual gigs coming our way soon Kade. Loudness are touring for the first time - why now I have no idea . And Girlschool supported by Venom Inc and Raven :lol Good to see some of these bands making it out but they were obscure back then let alone now. The metalheads in Melboure will turn out for anything I suppose .
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Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2019, 04:04:38 AM: Fuck me. I guess we are that fucking desperate. I just get fucked over living north. Still spewing Avantasia aren't coming. Can't blame Tobi after the turnout for Edguy the last time they were here.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2019, 04:38:41 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 28, 2019, 04:04:38 AM
Fuck me. I guess we are that fucking desperate. I just get fucked over living north. Still spewing Avantasia aren't coming. Can't blame Tobi after the turnout for Edguy the last time they were here.

Most of the tours I look at lately (incl. the two above) are doing the whole east coast. Brisbane get the royal treatment compared to Perth :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2019, 06:12:16 AM: I managed to sneak in one listen to the new Queensryche tonight. A bit like the new DT......I am struggling to get all in a lather over it like many reviewers seem to be. Sound-wise I think it's the closest the TLT era band has managed to get to classic OM-Empire era 'Ryche. It's a great sounding album.

Like pretty much all recent QR material there often seems to be something missing .......I can tell that it's Queensryche but the guitar parts are missing the melodic sense of DeGarmo. That's not to say that Whip does a bad job at all btw.

In the end it comes down to the songs and I think it's a bit of a step back from Condition Human. Of the 10 songs I would rate all but one as good/solid or better , but nothing slays it IMO. Propaganda Fashion is filler as far as I am concerned.

Unfortunately (unlike DT) I don't think anything really tops the singles that have been released to this point. Inner Unrest could be an exception with further listens perhaps (sounds like an Empire outtake)

I need to give it a bit more time but at this stage I can't rate it any higher than low 80s , and that might be stretching it . Aside from the one track I never felt like hitting Skip but by the same token I wasn't itching to hit rewind/replay on much either.
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Post by: Samsara on February 28, 2019, 01:01:57 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 28, 2019, 06:12:16 AM
I managed to sneak in one listen to the new Queensryche tonight. A bit like the new DT......I am struggling to get all in a lather over it like many reviewers seem to be. Sound-wise I think it's the closest the TLT era band has managed to get to classic OM-Empire era 'Ryche. It's a great sounding album.

Like pretty much all recent QR material there often seems to be something missing .......I can tell that it's Queensryche but the guitar parts are missing the melodic sense of DeGarmo. That's not to say that Whip does a bad job at all btw.

In the end it comes down to the songs and I think it's a bit of a step back from Condition Human. Of the 10 songs I would rate all but one as good/solid or better , but nothing slays it IMO. Propaganda Fashion is filler as far as I am concerned.

Unfortunately (unlike DT) I don't think anything really tops the singles that have been released to this point. Inner Unrest could be an exception with further listens perhaps (sounds like an Empire outtake)

I need to give it a bit more time but at this stage I can't rate it any higher than low 80s , and that might be stretching it . Aside from the one track I never felt like hitting Skip but by the same token I wasn't itching to hit rewind/replay on much either.

Check out my track-by-track first listen report in the QR thread. It doesn't sound like Queensryche except for Wilton's leads, and a few nuances. When the voice, heart/soul, and backbone are gone, it HAS to sound different. And it does.
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Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2019, 02:16:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 28, 2019, 06:12:16 AM
Unfortunately (unlike DT) I don't think anything really tops the singles that have been released to this point.

Oh wow, that's not good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2019, 06:17:25 PM: More new Tesla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=72&v=4TVXYM_5SO8

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by: ozzy554 on February 28, 2019, 07:51:16 PM: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/mastodon-to-release-cover-of-led-zeppelins-stairway-to-heaven/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/mastodon-to-release-cover-of-led-zeppelins-stairway-to-heaven/)

This is a nice thing they're doing in memory of their late manager. All proceeds will go to pancreatic cancer research.

I'm really interested to see what they will be doing with one. I assume Brann will be handling the majority of the vocals here.
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Post by: TAC on February 28, 2019, 08:08:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 28, 2019, 02:16:34 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 28, 2019, 06:12:16 AM
Unfortunately (unlike DT) I don't think anything really tops the singles that have been released to this point.

Oh wow, that's not good.

Yeah, considering I already got my email from Amazon that it has shipped. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2019, 11:09:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 28, 2019, 08:08:22 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 28, 2019, 02:16:34 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 28, 2019, 06:12:16 AM
Unfortunately (unlike DT) I don't think anything really tops the singles that have been released to this point.

Oh wow, that's not good.

Yeah, considering I already got my email from Amazon that it has shipped. :lol

:lol i will still buy it if I see it instore.
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Post by: gazinwales on March 01, 2019, 11:44:13 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 28, 2019, 04:04:38 AM
Fuck me. I guess we are that fucking desperate. I just get fucked over living north. Still spewing Avantasia aren't coming. Can't blame Tobi after the turnout for Edguy the last time they were here.

Did you go see Ensiferum play in Brisbane on Thursday night?
I saw them in Sydney last night, the crowd where insane and the band on fire, one of the best shows I've seen in many years.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 01, 2019, 02:03:51 PM: Ultimate Guitar have putup the Yngwie cover of While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I’m not linking it. Don’t do it. Remember the Yngwie there used to be back in the 80s and early 90s. Fucking abysmal doesn’t even come close to describing it.

Ok the, you asked for it
https://youtu.be/oVsNa3LaDUE
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2019, 02:19:52 PM: His guitar weeps alright.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 01, 2019, 02:21:50 PM: Quote
This one came out even better than I expected

Not :biggrin:

Should be renamed to "While His Guitar Makes Us Weep (and not gently)"
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Post by: TAC on March 01, 2019, 02:30:53 PM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2019, 03:58:46 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on March 01, 2019, 11:44:13 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 28, 2019, 04:04:38 AM
Fuck me. I guess we are that fucking desperate. I just get fucked over living north. Still spewing Avantasia aren't coming. Can't blame Tobi after the turnout for Edguy the last time they were here.

Did you go see Ensiferum play in Brisbane on Thursday night?
I saw them in Sydney last night, the crowd where insane and the band on fire, one of the best shows I've seen in many years.

Nah mate. That's one band I've never gotten into. Don't think I've heard anything from them to be honest.

EDIT: Oh, apparantely, I own their self titled......
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Post by: gazinwales on March 01, 2019, 06:31:48 PM: They were killer last night in Sydney, best gig I've seen in many years.
Their debut album is a classic, give it a listen you might be surprised by it!
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Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2019, 03:46:55 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on March 01, 2019, 06:31:48 PM
They were killer last night in Sydney, best gig I've seen in many years.
Their debut album is a classic, give it a listen you might be surprised by it!

I wonder if I like it, if the band will fly back for me? :lol
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Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2019, 03:50:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 03, 2019, 03:46:55 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on March 01, 2019, 06:31:48 PM
They were killer last night in Sydney, best gig I've seen in many years.
Their debut album is a classic, give it a listen you might be surprised by it!

I wonder if I like it, if the band will fly back for me? :lol

:lol

My friend is a big fan of Ensiferum so I went to see them with him in 2014, no regrets, their live show was awesome.
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Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2019, 03:54:46 AM: I wonder how long til we get in trouble for talking about Ensiferum in this thread? :lol
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Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2019, 04:01:18 AM: It also sucks that it was on Thursday night. I definitely wouldn't go to a mid-week show for a band I don't even know that much. That's why I skipped last Katatonia show, which I kinda regret now.

Avantasia will be playing in Moscow on Saturday and there's always a huge turnout for them here, so I guess I'll have to get in line at midday to be reasonably sure I can make it to the first row.
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Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2019, 04:06:06 AM: Quote from: Evermind on March 03, 2019, 04:01:18 AM
It also sucks that it was on Thursday night. I definitely wouldn't go to a mid-week show for a band I don't even know that much. That's why I skipped last Katatonia show, which I kinda regret now.

This is what happens 95% of the time for me. It would be a band that I wouldn't mind seeing but being out that late on a weekday with my work schedule just isn't practical. I start at 5am in the mornings so I'm getting to old for that. :lol
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 06, 2019, 10:34:06 PM: We have a yearly show that our local radio show hosts called Blarney Bash. It's a St. Patrick's Day thing. This year we have Slaughter headlining, Steven Adler and Jesse Kramer.

I was gonna ask about Steven Adler and what he will do. But I just looked up the event on Facebook.

But I think it should be a good show to have a few to.
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Post by: TAC on March 08, 2019, 08:10:42 PM: So this arrived today:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71B49dCEDFL._SY355_.jpg)

Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but man, the booklet is fantastic. A true trip down memory lane. Clips of old Kerrang articles and great old pics.
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Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2019, 05:00:23 AM: What's going on? No new hard rock or metal anywhere by the looks and dunno but doesn't seem to be much on the horizon.
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Post by: TAC on March 17, 2019, 06:48:51 AM: Yeah, it's been kind of quiet.

I've been tied up in roulette listening. And the Queensryche (which is awesome), and the Bodom (which is cool) are both being discussed in other threads.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2019, 08:25:23 PM: Everyone should be listening to the new Darkwater album. Better than DT or QR (imo)
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Post by: TAC on March 17, 2019, 08:27:50 PM: Is it good? I loved Calling The Earth To Witness, but I thought the next one blew.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2019, 08:34:11 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 17, 2019, 08:25:23 PM
Everyone should be listening to the new Darkwater album. Better than DT or QR (imo)

Doesn't that answer the question? :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 18, 2019, 02:57:52 AM: That Motley Crue Like a Virgin song might be one of the worst songs I've ever heard.

Who thought that would be a good idea?
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 18, 2019, 08:31:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 18, 2019, 02:57:52 AM
That Motley Crue Like a Virgin song might be one of the worst songs I've ever heard.

Who thought that would be a good idea?

I wasn't expecting it to be good but I wasn't quite expecting this level of awful. Barely even sounds like them.

If they amped up the sleeze and tried to actually make it their own it could've been at least interesting.
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Post by: cramx3 on March 18, 2019, 08:38:48 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on March 18, 2019, 08:31:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 18, 2019, 02:57:52 AM
That Motley Crue Like a Virgin song might be one of the worst songs I've ever heard.

Who thought that would be a good idea?

I wasn't expecting it to be good but I wasn't quite expecting this level of awful. Barely even sounds like them.

If they amped up the sleeze and tried to actually make it their own it could've been at least interesting.

oh wow, didn't know this was a thing until just now and.... wow this is terrible
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Post by: Lowdz on March 19, 2019, 01:55:55 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 17, 2019, 08:25:23 PM
Everyone should be listening to the new Darkwater album. Better than DT or QR (imo)

It’s ok but I’m enjoying those two more.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2019, 03:17:19 PM: Never heard anything from Darkwater.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2019, 03:05:43 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 19, 2019, 03:17:19 PM
Never heard anything from Darkwater.

Well worth a go. I expect you will like them
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2019, 04:08:19 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 20, 2019, 03:05:43 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 19, 2019, 03:17:19 PM
Never heard anything from Darkwater.

Well worth a go. I expect you will like them

Copy that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on March 22, 2019, 03:44:15 PM: I bought a "ticket to rock" bundle at my local medium sized concert hall and it came with a ticket to like 6 rock concerts, I bought it mostly for the Whitesnake ticket, but a few others I figured I'd go if I was home and able to (the rest I can sell if I can't make it) so after selling my Tesla ticket because I was in Amsterdam for work, I'm home tonight and got nothing better to do than go see Warrant. Getting some Cherry Pie tonight :yarr Actually I used to enjoy them when I was young and haven't listened in like 15 years at least. Not as into them now as I used to be, but maybe it'll be a fun show. I really like the song Big Talk still, that one's fun. Curious how many people come out for this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 22, 2019, 03:45:21 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on March 22, 2019, 03:44:15 PM
I bought a "ticket to rock" bundle

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 23, 2019, 04:26:34 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on March 22, 2019, 03:44:15 PM
I bought a "ticket to rock" bundle at my local medium sized concert hall and it came with a ticket to like 6 rock concerts, I bought it mostly for the Whitesnake ticket, but a few others I figured I'd go if I was home and able to (the rest I can sell if I can't make it) so after selling my Tesla ticket because I was in Amsterdam for work, I'm home tonight and got nothing better to do than go see Warrant. Getting some Cherry Pie tonight :yarr Actually I used to enjoy them when I was young and haven't listened in like 15 years at least. Not as into them now as I used to be, but maybe it'll be a fun show. I really like the song Big Talk still, that one's fun. Curious how many people come out for this.

Warrant were great. The new Warrant is ok but it’s not the same,
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on March 26, 2019, 03:01:59 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 23, 2019, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on March 22, 2019, 03:44:15 PM
I bought a "ticket to rock" bundle at my local medium sized concert hall and it came with a ticket to like 6 rock concerts, I bought it mostly for the Whitesnake ticket, but a few others I figured I'd go if I was home and able to (the rest I can sell if I can't make it) so after selling my Tesla ticket because I was in Amsterdam for work, I'm home tonight and got nothing better to do than go see Warrant. Getting some Cherry Pie tonight :yarr Actually I used to enjoy them when I was young and haven't listened in like 15 years at least. Not as into them now as I used to be, but maybe it'll be a fun show. I really like the song Big Talk still, that one's fun. Curious how many people come out for this.

Warrant were great. The new Warrant is ok but it’s not the same,

I wrote a review in the concerts thread, but they were pretty solid live. Place was pretty empty though. The singer was pretty drunk and saying some ridiculous stuff but never went over the top. However, I did get to meet him after the show, he came out and chilled in the crowd for a bit and said he liked my Kamelot shirt which was really surprising, mentioned he knew Casey (their former drummer). Seemed like a nice guy, just sucks for him because filling in for Jani just leads to a lot of hate on his part. He sounded alright, not the greatest live, but not bad either. The band seemed pretty good, it was a fun show.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on March 26, 2019, 03:24:26 PM: I can't see Warrant. I was a fan of theirs. Love the first three albums. Dog Eat Dog was WAY underrated. But I can't go see them without Jani. Jani wrote ALL of that stuff. The guys in Warrant, particularly the guitarists, didn't even play much on the first two records (if you don't know, look it up - the solos were done by a session guy).

I never saw them, and I never will. Just a weird thing of mine. And it doesn't hold true for every band, but for Warrant, just can't do it. Glad the show was cool though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 26, 2019, 03:28:38 PM: Even though I wasn't a fan, the original Warrant was so good live.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on March 26, 2019, 03:33:18 PM: Ya know, I know little about them. I had a greatest hits CD when I started enjoying glam and hair metal, I enjoyed it but never loved it. But since I had a ticket for this show, I started looking into them after 15 years or so of not caring about them. Realized A LOT of people really don't like Warrant's current line up. Seems legit when no one shows up to the show, the singer asks the crowd if they got free tickets to be there :lol, and this is what kicked me in the balls the most, the MOMENT, literally, right after I uploaded my concert video I LOST 2 subscribers! Like it's too close in timing to not attribute that to people not being happy I uploaded a few Warrant videos. Also got one negative comment about being glad they didn't go :lol It's kind of funny to me how people who loved the band through the times have attachments where as I do not so I don't view things the same. Well, having said that, I only think the singer is a cool dude because he was nice enough to talk to me and seemed to be interested in engaging which was a nice surprise especially from an older band, I do kind of think once he dies, what's the point of continuing? I guess we all know the answer, but I can't imagine how much they are really making when people hate them so much.

Anyway, heres a few videos from the show:

Warrant - Cherry Pie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvL_HLOjEYo)
Warrant - Big Talk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neX2LoHtd7A)
Warrant - Live @ Starland Ballroom Concert Experience (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLAt3XZAiK4)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 26, 2019, 03:35:53 PM: Uncle Toms Cabin is one of the best songs of the entire hair metal genre.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on March 26, 2019, 03:55:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 26, 2019, 03:35:53 PM
Uncle Toms Cabin is one of the best songs of the entire hair metal genre.

Amen.

Cram - will check out the vids tonight. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2019, 04:42:11 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 26, 2019, 03:35:53 PM
Uncle Toms Cabin is one of the best songs of the entire hair metal genre.

Word.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on March 27, 2019, 10:56:57 AM: Quote from: cramx3 on March 26, 2019, 03:33:18 PM
right after I uploaded my concert video I LOST 2 subscribers!

Well I just subscribed. Love watching a lot of your videos that you share here. :metal And Uncle Tom's Cabin is awesome. So tired of Down Boys though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 27, 2019, 11:43:53 AM: Best channel on YouTube!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on March 27, 2019, 11:45:52 AM: Quote from: Grappler on March 27, 2019, 10:56:57 AM
Quote from: cramx3 on March 26, 2019, 03:33:18 PM
right after I uploaded my concert video I LOST 2 subscribers!

Well I just subscribed. Love watching a lot of your videos that you share here. :metal And Uncle Tom's Cabin is awesome. So tired of Down Boys though.

Thanks man, appreciate it! :yarr Should have some videos from the Kiss concert tonight either super late or tomorrow.

Also, I am not a huge fan of Down Boys. I remember liking that song but when I went back and revisted Warrant before the concert, Down Boys was one of those songs that just felt like it didn't stand the test of time. I mean, quite a few of their tunes felt like they were dated, but I thought Heaven still worked super well today and I'll agree on the Uncle Tom's Cabin love, that song is still a good rocker.

Quote from: TAC on March 27, 2019, 11:43:53 AM
Best channel on YouTube!

:metal :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on March 27, 2019, 12:34:21 PM: Cram, I subscribed just now too. So boom, you got those two subscribers back! :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 27, 2019, 12:50:08 PM: Quote from: Samsara on March 27, 2019, 12:34:21 PM
Cram, I subscribed just now too. So boom, you got those two subscribers back! :tup

And another one 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2019, 03:10:03 PM: Another new Whitesnake song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3oLB5a-8Z4

No thanks.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2019, 03:11:46 PM: This thread has had such little activity lately, it has apparently been given Post Welfare.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 05, 2019, 03:27:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2019, 03:10:03 PM
Another new Whitesnake song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3oLB5a-8Z4

No thanks.

I'll have to check, but the other new single wasnt a bad song but it just felt so old.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 05, 2019, 05:54:11 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2019, 03:10:03 PM
Another new Whitesnake song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3oLB5a-8Z4

No thanks.

Actually don't hate it, the guitar riffing is pretty cool, but David doesn't sound so great here, the verses are plodding although the chorus isn't terrible and the ending out of the instrumental part is pretty solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 05, 2019, 06:39:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2019, 03:11:46 PM
This thread has had such little activity lately, it has apparently been given Post Welfare.

This thread always suffers from roulettitis - it will return ;D

Speaking of welfare - Coverdale's vocal cords are about to be pensioned off to wherever his teeth ended up. If that's what he sounds like with all the studio trickery then it's about time to retire gracefully , if that's still doable.

It's the right style for the 80's Whitesnake fans (elements of bluesy rock and the 1987 vibe) but it would've felt a lot more credible 15 years ago when Cov was in better nick - in the studio at least.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2019, 08:24:56 PM: Yay! Puzzle fun!

http://bravewords.com/news/slayer-iron-maiden-judas-priest-motorhead-puzzles-due-in-june
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 05, 2019, 09:02:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2019, 08:24:56 PM
Yay! Puzzle fun!

http://bravewords.com/news/slayer-iron-maiden-judas-priest-motorhead-puzzles-due-in-june

WTF! Next the can crochet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2019, 10:54:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2019, 08:24:56 PM
Yay! Puzzle fun!

http://bravewords.com/news/slayer-iron-maiden-judas-priest-motorhead-puzzles-due-in-june

Because metal heads love to do puzzles???
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 07, 2019, 02:19:06 AM: Puzzles will be the top secret Santa gift this year!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 07, 2019, 05:48:12 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2019, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2019, 08:24:56 PM
Yay! Puzzle fun!

http://bravewords.com/news/slayer-iron-maiden-judas-priest-motorhead-puzzles-due-in-june

Because metal heads love to do puzzles???

Puzzling, huh?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 07, 2019, 06:21:45 AM: I still have my old KISS puzzles!

(https://i.imgur.com/U10M3Ue.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 07, 2019, 06:47:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 05, 2019, 06:39:02 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2019, 03:11:46 PM
This thread has had such little activity lately, it has apparently been given Post Welfare.

This thread always suffers from roulettitis - it will return ;D

Speaking of welfare - Coverdale's vocal cords are about to be pensioned off to wherever his teeth ended up. If that's what he sounds like with all the studio trickery then it's about time to retire gracefully , if that's still doable.

It's the right style for the 80's Whitesnake fans (elements of bluesy rock and the 1987 vibe) but it would've felt a lot more credible 15 years ago when Cov was in better nick - in the studio at least.

It’s painful to listen to and has been for along time now. The dude is old and I certainly don’t expect him to sound great. He obviously still enjoys writing as I can’t believe the album will make any money, but maybe get someone else in to sing them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 16, 2019, 06:08:13 PM: So I just saw on Bravewords that Accept have named a new bassist. What?

What happened to Peter Baltes?

I did a Bravewords search, and sure enough, I found this:

http://bravewords.com/news/accept-bassist-peter-baltes-calls-it-quits-thank-you-for-all-the-great-years-we-shared-together

:omg:

I totally missed this news. WTF?

Am I the last to know? I don't remember it being mentioned here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2019, 12:01:13 AM: Don't recall seeing it, or I just didn't really care to take any notice.

So Accept is purely the Wolf Hoffman show now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 19, 2019, 09:49:20 AM: So the same ticket bundle that lead me to seeing Warrant has it's next show this weekend, Tesla. I actually don't really know their music and I missed my chance, twice, to see them before when they opened for Def Leppard one year and the next they opened for Def Leppard and Poison, but I got there late both times. I'm kind of on edge about actually going. I currently have it listed on stubhub at face value but it looks like tickets are starting to drop below which means I may go, but I don't know their music that well.

Thoughts and opinions on Tesla?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 19, 2019, 02:04:39 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on April 19, 2019, 09:49:20 AM
So the same ticket bundle that lead me to seeing Warrant has it's next show this weekend, Tesla. I actually don't really know their music and I missed my chance, twice, to see them before when they opened for Def Leppard one year and the next they opened for Def Leppard and Poison, but I got there late both times. I'm kind of on edge about actually going. I currently have it listed on stubhub at face value but it looks like tickets are starting to drop below which means I may go, but I don't know their music that well.

Thoughts and opinions on Tesla?

Not seen them live since back in the day so can’t comment on how they are live now, but back then they were excellent. First three albums are top drawer stuff.

If it was me, I’d go.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 19, 2019, 07:28:10 PM: http://bravewords.com/news/scorpions-tokyo-tapes-audience-applause-lifted-from-peter-frampton-s-frampton-comes-alive-there-is-your-dirty-little-insight-says-uli-jon-roth-video

:facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 20, 2019, 05:15:26 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 19, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on April 19, 2019, 09:49:20 AM
So the same ticket bundle that lead me to seeing Warrant has it's next show this weekend, Tesla. I actually don't really know their music and I missed my chance, twice, to see them before when they opened for Def Leppard one year and the next they opened for Def Leppard and Poison, but I got there late both times. I'm kind of on edge about actually going. I currently have it listed on stubhub at face value but it looks like tickets are starting to drop below which means I may go, but I don't know their music that well.

Thoughts and opinions on Tesla?

Not seen them live since back in the day so can’t comment on how they are live now, but back then they were excellent. First three albums are top drawer stuff.

If it was me, I’d go.

Ditto. I've heard that Jeff Keith's voice is not all that great in a live setting. I pickedup Forever More (2008 release I think?), and that's pretty decent. Paul's right, the first three are all A+ material. Song-for-song, I'd put The Great Radio Controversy up against any album from the 80s. I'd heard that there recent work was rubbish, so I can't comment on that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 20, 2019, 07:02:09 AM: I really liked the 4th one also. And their comeback records were at least solid. The last two are boring, but I would expect them to play mainly older tunes. And I heard too that JK's voice isn't what it used to be, but if the price is reasonable I would surely go.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 20, 2019, 08:03:18 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 20, 2019, 07:02:09 AM
I really liked the 4th one also. And their comeback records were at least solid. The last two are boring, but I would expect them to play mainly older tunes. And I heard too that JK's voice isn't what it used to be, but if the price is reasonable I would surely go.

Bust A Nut was half a great album but too much stodge.

The last few albums didn’t do much for me, though I recently played the new one and it was better than I expected. It’s more Def Leppard than Tesla though. I’m not going to recommend it though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 20, 2019, 08:08:36 AM: Had a listen to the last one on spotify. It wasn't as worse as I feared but still not really good. And more ballads and mellow tunes than real rockers.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 20, 2019, 08:14:00 AM: Thanks for the responses, looks like I am going. I already had a cheap ticket but stubhub prices are way below my cheap price now so I wouldn't even get my money back, might as well check it out especially with the positive responses here, from people who I know have tastes similar to my own.

Here's the setlist they played last night so I expect the same or similar:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/tesla/2019/hampton-beach-casino-ballroom-hampton-beach-nh-33930499.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/tesla/2019/hampton-beach-casino-ballroom-hampton-beach-nh-33930499.html)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 20, 2019, 08:39:46 AM: Imo that's a good enough setlist, not spectacular but most of the classics are there. Have fun. :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2019, 05:52:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 19, 2019, 07:28:10 PM
http://bravewords.com/news/scorpions-tokyo-tapes-audience-applause-lifted-from-peter-frampton-s-frampton-comes-alive-there-is-your-dirty-little-insight-says-uli-jon-roth-video

:facepalm:

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2019, 06:35:49 AM: Brent will appreciate this. Saw an Anthem album at JB on the weekend so picked it up. Discovered afterwards it's a new best of re-recorded called Nucleus. Has a bonus cd too. Halfway through and some pretty decent metal. A bit samey, but quite enjoyable. Some excellent guitar work. From the first half, Immortal Bind and Venom Strike are highlights.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 22, 2019, 06:39:35 AM: I've spun a couple of Anthem albums recently. Totally digging it, and meaning to check in a little deeper into them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2019, 06:58:42 AM: Always glad to hear some follow up on some of the rarities mentioned in podcasts (or roulettes)

I have pretty much the whole Anthem discog - it's not consistently brilliant by any means but there a few strong albums and each has at least one or two really good songs. Some nice guitar work always helps. They're the sort of band that (if I got around to it) I wouldn't mind making my own Best Of album for.

It's not all that well known but in 2001 they recorded an album of re-records with Graham Bonnet (Heavy Metal Anthem) to try and crack the US - like Loudness' On The Prowl- which is worth having if you like Bonnet's voice.

Can't find it on Youtube but if anyone's super interested then gimme a yell.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 22, 2019, 06:15:22 PM: That Tesla show I caught over the weekend was pretty good. Nice to see what felt like a good ole fashioned rock n roll show. GA venue, band just rockin on stage playing good music, an older crowd as expected, but people were certainly into it and it was a decent sized crowd for the venue. Probably 20x more people than at the Warrant show a few weeks back. I thought the singer sounded great too.

Here's a little old Tesla:

Tesla - Call it What You Want Live @ Starland Ballroom NJ 4/20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbzt0WQ5hRg)

and a little new:

Tesla - Shock Live @ Starland Ballroom NJ 4/20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXz5_eN-Nz4)

also I wish I counted how many times the one guitarist did a spin move :lol I loved his playing though, he was so into performing and I love when I can see that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2019, 04:40:46 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 22, 2019, 06:58:42 AM
Always glad to hear some follow up on some of the rarities mentioned in podcasts (or roulettes)

I have pretty much the whole Anthem discog - it's not consistently brilliant by any means but there a few strong albums and each has at least one or two really good songs. Some nice guitar work always helps. They're the sort of band that (if I got around to it) I wouldn't mind making my own Best Of album for.

It's not all that well known but in 2001 they recorded an album of re-records with Graham Bonnet (Heavy Metal Anthem) to try and crack the US - like Loudness' On The Prowl- which is worth having if you like Bonnet's voice.

Can't find it on Youtube but if anyone's super interested then gimme a yell.

I think this new one is something similar of the band trying to break new ground perhaps? nuclear Blast and re-recorded in English? I'll have to check the originals.

Bonnet does pretty much whatever you pay him to do it seems haha.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 23, 2019, 05:58:29 AM: Here is a track for you Kade - the one I listened to the most.

https://mega.nz/#!bAdUAISI!Gj1CQoEXeCuX0-mgSIBfG_b70PgcfKGioVvXWqKV5_A

I provide a 100% money back guarantee that it's better than Martika.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2019, 06:16:37 AM: Haha can't be too hard can it. I'll check this one tomorrow mate, bed time.

There was actually a couple more rely good ones towards the end of the Anthem. Quite enjoyable. Venom Strike fucking rips.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2019, 06:17:25 AM: On another note, the lack of good metal lately is somewhat concerning.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 23, 2019, 06:44:10 AM: I am so far behind that I have no clue. I have finally got around to a few newish releases in the last few days but yeah...............nothing great just yet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 23, 2019, 12:20:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 23, 2019, 06:17:25 AM
On another note, the lack of good metal lately is somewhat concerning.

This might be one of the longest stretches in recent memory.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Big Hath on April 23, 2019, 12:31:06 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 23, 2019, 05:58:29 AM
Here is a track for you Kade - the one I listened to the most.

https://mega.nz/#!bAdUAISI!Gj1CQoEXeCuX0-mgSIBfG_b70PgcfKGioVvXWqKV5_A

I provide a 100% money back guarantee that it's better than Martika.

Shots. Fucking. Fired.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2019, 05:35:37 PM: Well well, Timo is back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45jaAbaFn2A

He hasn't changed his writing style, but this does sound a bit better than the shit he has been doing. He's still got that dirty strat guitar tone which I haven't liked. His old tone was so much better. I don't know who this singer is but interested to hear who else is on this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 23, 2019, 06:22:40 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 23, 2019, 05:35:37 PM
I don't know who this singer is but interested to hear who else is on this.

Current singer for Riot V
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 24, 2019, 05:14:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 23, 2019, 06:22:40 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 23, 2019, 05:35:37 PM
I don't know who this singer is but interested to hear who else is on this.

Current singer for Riot V

Interesting selection for Timo.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 24, 2019, 07:48:52 PM: Yngwie, good lord man!! :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kjLiiUCa1c
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 25, 2019, 05:44:38 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 23, 2019, 12:20:08 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 23, 2019, 06:17:25 AM
On another note, the lack of good metal lately is somewhat concerning.

This might be one of the longest stretches in recent memory.

Four months in to the year, and I've only bought 5 albums so far; only sampled a dozen or so. To be fair, I was working thru the B&B podcast, and moving... so disposable time to sample new tunes has been rather limited.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 25, 2019, 02:47:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 24, 2019, 07:48:52 PM
Yngwie, good lord man!! :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kjLiiUCa1c

Barely made it over a minute
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 25, 2019, 02:51:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 25, 2019, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 24, 2019, 07:48:52 PM
Yngwie, good lord man!! :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kjLiiUCa1c

Barely made it over a minute

:lol speaking of this guy, I also have a ticket to see him part of my rock bundle. (two more shows left in this, Skid Row and Yngwie). I am leaning on selling Yngwie and keeping Skid Row as of now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on April 25, 2019, 02:53:01 PM: Jesus that cover blows.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 25, 2019, 03:13:26 PM: Quote from: kingshmegland on April 25, 2019, 02:53:01 PM
Jesus that cover blows.

Yea, that was pretty bad right from the start and I sadly listened to the whole thing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2019, 04:46:50 PM: It's like he's had a stroke or something. :'( So disappointing.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 25, 2019, 05:15:18 PM: Yngwie needs to bring in a full time singer again and just stick to the guitar. And maybe just maybe realize that his jerkstore attitude is the cause of all these decades of singers leaving and just try to be a bit nicer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2019, 05:23:11 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 25, 2019, 05:15:18 PM
Yngwie needs to bring in a full time singer again and just stick to the guitar. And maybe just maybe realize that his jerkstore attitude is the cause of all these decades of singers leaving and just try to be a bit nicer.

It makes you wonder how he can be so ignorrant and not realise what's going on. He should put on Marching Out and Odyssey and then play the new one and really take note, but unfortunately, he never will. It seems it's all too late.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 25, 2019, 07:50:10 PM: It's no secret that musicians and singers can lose some skills as they age but what baffles me is how they also seem to lose the ability to filter what is good enough to release. Tate and Malmsteen are the two prime examples ............I suppose the common thread there is loving yourself with a passion.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 25, 2019, 08:14:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 25, 2019, 07:50:10 PM
It's no secret that musicians and singers can lose some skills as they age but what baffles me is how they also seem to lose the ability to filter what is good enough to release. Tate and Malmsteen are the two prime examples ............I suppose the common thread there is loving yourself with a passion.

Yeah, that never gets old. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 25, 2019, 11:42:29 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 25, 2019, 05:15:18 PM
Yngwie needs to bring in a full time singer again and just stick to the guitar. And maybe just maybe realize that his jerkstore attitude is the cause of all these decades of singers leaving and just try to be a bit nicer.

And a producer who has the balls to tell him what to play and that he lately plays and sounds like shit. But it's not gonna happen.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2019, 01:26:58 AM: We need to get Yngwie in a room for an intervention lads. I reckon we can crack him, we have a pretty fucking good team here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 26, 2019, 01:36:15 AM: Yep - let's unleash a fooking intervention man .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on April 26, 2019, 05:26:01 AM: Aside from sounding more like a cover by a beginner instead of a guitarist as talented as Yngwie is (or was), the production does it no favors either. The tempo just sounds off, the drums are weak, and overall everything just sounds kinda flat. Maybe it sounds better on the actual CD as I know sometimes Youtube streams aren't the best quality wise but I don't really care enough to ever make the comparison.

Also he can drown his vocals in as many effects as he wants but he can't hide the fact that he is certainly NOT a singer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2019, 03:23:08 PM: And he just does the verse chorus, verse chorus, solo then just stops. Like 'meh' the solos over, there's no point going back to the start again, let's move on to the next one. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 26, 2019, 05:39:45 PM: I think it's safe to say everyone is likely passing on the new Yngwie :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on April 27, 2019, 03:26:58 AM: :lol No doubt
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 27, 2019, 07:31:53 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 26, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
I think it's safe to say everyone is likely passing on the new Yngwie :lol

I’ve passed on the new Yngwie for the last 15 years or more 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2019, 04:46:21 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 26, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
I think it's safe to say everyone is likely passing on the new Yngwie :lol

Although, it could perhaps be a good counterpart to my Dedicated to Chaos drink coaster.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 28, 2019, 06:22:33 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 28, 2019, 04:46:21 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on April 26, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
I think it's safe to say everyone is likely passing on the new Yngwie :lol

Although, it could perhaps be a good counterpart to my Dedicated to Chaos drink coaster.

Only if you throw the CD out your car window.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2019, 06:41:51 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 28, 2019, 06:22:33 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 28, 2019, 04:46:21 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on April 26, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
I think it's safe to say everyone is likely passing on the new Yngwie :lol

Although, it could perhaps be a good counterpart to my Dedicated to Chaos drink coaster.

Only if you throw the CD out your car window.

No I bought both versions, one went out the window and one went under my coffee cup.

I should do something similar for this Yngwie album. I really don't want to listen to it though as it will probably make me cry.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 28, 2019, 06:58:04 AM: If you bought BOTH versions, you should throw YOURSELF out of a window!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2019, 03:11:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 28, 2019, 06:58:04 AM
If you bought BOTH versions, you should throw YOURSELF out of a window!

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 29, 2019, 12:37:18 PM: I know some of you don’t do Facebook but I’ve just been watching a live show from Vicious Rumors on there with Carl Albert’s son Kevin on vocals. Enjoyed it and Kevin does a pretty good job on the vocals.

https://www.facebook.com/keepittruefestival/videos/794668924252592?s=553084045&v=e&sfns=mo
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 29, 2019, 03:13:24 PM: Vicious Rumors have seemingly had 30 different singers the last few years. Kevin sounds pretty darn good; is he the new official singer?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 29, 2019, 04:20:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 29, 2019, 03:13:24 PM
Vicious Rumors have seemingly had 30 different singers the last few years. Kevin sounds pretty darn good; is he the new official singer?

No, it was a one off. The actual singer joins in on the last track. I really didn’t like his voice at all, and all the lineup changes killed the band. I know they couldn’t help the Carl Albert change but it’s been a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2019, 12:02:23 AM: Looks like Avantasia hasn't sold that well out here - flogging off tix for 25% off a week or so out. Wanna fly down Kade? :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 03, 2019, 05:30:39 AM: Tobi didn't even bother with Toronto this time when they couldn't even fill a 1200 seat theatre last tour
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2019, 05:58:49 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2019, 12:02:23 AM
Looks like Avantasia hasn't sold that well out here - flogging off tix for 25% off a week or so out. Wanna fly down Kade? :)

I wanted to try and go down but don't think I'd be able to get there unfortunately. You going mate?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 03, 2019, 06:14:42 AM: You guys talking about the MA show? DO IT

It really really sucks if they are struggling to sell tickets, I thought they did well at Playstation Theater last time around in NYC. Not sold out, but mostly packed a 2100 capacity venue (the bartender that night also told me she was surprised how packed that show was).

But regardless, personally, I think it's my most anticipated concert of the year and I just booked my hotel in Worcester which is walking distance from the venue :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2019, 06:43:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 03, 2019, 05:58:49 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2019, 12:02:23 AM
Looks like Avantasia hasn't sold that well out here - flogging off tix for 25% off a week or so out. Wanna fly down Kade? :)

I wanted to try and go down but don't think I'd be able to get there unfortunately. You going mate?

Nah - nobody I know down here would know who they are and I'm not flush with cash to say the least. Would've found a way to go if you were coming down.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 03, 2019, 09:55:02 AM: It’s the Kiske effect. Plus the new album isn’t all that great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 03, 2019, 10:43:34 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 03, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
It’s the Kiske effect. Plus the new album isn’t all that great.

I don't know, I think its America. Looks like they had plenty of big sold out shows in Europe.

I'd think Geoff Tate is a bigger name in America than Kiske though. Actually debating about seeing Tate's Operation Mindcrime show locally if I feel like he sounds good live at the Avantasia show.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 03, 2019, 10:47:17 AM: I was planning to go see Avantasia in San Jose. But it turns out, they have a show the same day as The Tea Party does in San Francisco, who I've been waiting 20 years to see. So no Silicon Valley for me. It's too bad. I was really looking forward to seeing Avantasia, but the conflict is what it is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 03, 2019, 01:36:41 PM: New Hammerfall!

http://bravewords.com/news/hammerfall-to-release-dominion-album-in-august-we-make-sweden-rock-single-streaming

I don't hate it guys.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 03, 2019, 03:05:40 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on May 03, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 03, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
It’s the Kiske effect. Plus the new album isn’t all that great.

I don't know, I think its America. Looks like they had plenty of big sold out shows in Europe.

I'd think Geoff Tate is a bigger name in America than Kiske though. Actually debating about seeing Tate's Operation Mindcrime show locally if I feel like he sounds good live at the Avantasia show.

Tate sounded really good at the end of last year on the Mindcrime tour. I was really surprised. Band were really good too. I’m going to see his greatest hits tour in the summer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2019, 05:16:38 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2019, 06:43:27 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 03, 2019, 05:58:49 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2019, 12:02:23 AM
Looks like Avantasia hasn't sold that well out here - flogging off tix for 25% off a week or so out. Wanna fly down Kade? :)

I wanted to try and go down but don't think I'd be able to get there unfortunately. You going mate?

Nah - nobody I know down here would know who they are and I'm not flush with cash to say the least. Would've found a way to go if you were coming down.

Damn mate, that would have been sweet. being on a Tuesday really just doesn't work. If it was a Sat or even Sun night, I'd be able to do it.

Quote from: TAC on May 03, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
It’s the Kiske effect. Plus the new album isn’t all that great.

I agree. I can't get into it at all, and that's unusual for me and Tobi.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 05, 2019, 12:21:47 PM: Anyone heard the new Enforcer? Really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 05, 2019, 07:40:19 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 05, 2019, 12:21:47 PM
Anyone heard the new Enforcer? Really enjoyed it.

I haven't Paul. I was sure I had some Enforcer in my collection but can't find it at the moment.

Anyway.........based a review or two (which were not overly complimentary) it seems that on the new one they have gone a lot more melodic/catchy. So perhaps an album that upsets the diehards and gets a few of us on board. I have had similar experiences with bands like Kreator and Death Angel - I get on board when they go a bit softer and piss off many of the old school fans. :)

I'll check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 05, 2019, 07:45:01 PM: The second half is better, but the first half especially is kind of icky.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 05, 2019, 08:06:06 PM: I'll have to check the new Enforcer out. I enjoyed their set when they toured with Dark Tranquility. They're playing with Warbringer here in October. Hopefully I can make the show.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2019, 05:11:25 AM: I have no idea who the fuck Enforcer are.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2019, 05:17:47 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 03, 2019, 01:36:41 PM
New Hammerfall!

http://bravewords.com/news/hammerfall-to-release-dominion-album-in-august-we-make-sweden-rock-single-streaming

I don't hate it guys.

I do. We Make Sweden Rock? Thank fuck I don't live there then. Give me a break. Same generic shit and sounds as crap as their last one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 06, 2019, 12:42:38 PM: Anyone else let the new Hardline touch their ears yet? I'm six tracks in, and very much enjoying it. I mean, it's not Double Eclipse or anything, but it's solid. Not just solid solid, but VERY solid. Certainly not the usual mailed-in we've come to expect from Frontiers. I know I'm a Johnny G fanboi, but this is scratchin me where I itch.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 06, 2019, 05:29:16 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 06, 2019, 05:11:25 AM
I have no idea who the fuck Enforcer are.

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 06, 2019, 05:30:59 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 06, 2019, 12:42:38 PM
Anyone else let the new Hardline touch their ears yet? I'm six tracks in, and very much enjoying it. I mean, it's not Double Eclipse or anything, but it's solid. Not just solid solid, but VERY solid. Certainly not the usual mailed-in we've come to expect from Frontiers. I know I'm a Johnny G fanboi, but this is scratchin me where I itch.

We need to have an official solid scale system to determine if we mean that its a courtesy solid or really solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 07, 2019, 02:16:32 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 06, 2019, 05:30:59 PM
We need to have an official solid scale system to determine if we mean that its a courtesy solid or really solid.

That's some solid thinking. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2019, 05:09:48 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 06, 2019, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 06, 2019, 12:42:38 PM
Anyone else let the new Hardline touch their ears yet? I'm six tracks in, and very much enjoying it. I mean, it's not Double Eclipse or anything, but it's solid. Not just solid solid, but VERY solid. Certainly not the usual mailed-in we've come to expect from Frontiers. I know I'm a Johnny G fanboi, but this is scratchin me where I itch.

We need to have an official solid scale system to determine if we mean that its a courtesy solid or really solid.

GOLD.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2019, 05:11:08 AM: Checked out another Brent podcast album in Savage Messiah's Hands of Fate. This is really good. Straightfoward metal but no bullshit with some great melodies and really tasting soloing. Good length too as it doesn't overstay its welcome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2019, 05:43:41 AM: Might have to check that out. They were PPUSA the year I went, and while enjoyable enough, they didn't wow me. I'll check that 2017 release though.

Funny enough, I did a little B&B Podcast homework last night too.

Dextress ... damn that was some fine old-school hair-metal sound. Some nice throwbacks to the likes of Crue/Dr. Feelgood era stuff.
Cats in Space... only got a few songs in, but revisiting this morning. More excellent stuff.

GIVE US PART 2 DAMMIT!!! With the serious lack of good releases coming about, we need your help Obi-Brent-Kenobi. You're our only hope.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 07, 2019, 07:19:54 AM: Didn't realize Skid Row's current singer is the original singer from Dragonforce, ZP Theart. Anyway, I didn't love their show, but thought his performance was good. I thought Rachel Bolan looked so uninterested. ZP was the only one who looked like he was into it. I had a good time, chilled with some maiden fans for the long wait before they even came on. But for a 30th anniversary tour, looks like they are just going through the motions, even for a home environment. The crowd was into it, but maybe also having seen the Winery Dogs the night before, this looked so low energy.

Skid Row - 18 and Life Live @ Starland Ballroom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GutHAxNpGk)

so, my ticket to rock bundle is almost up. Tonight is Whitesnake, the band I wanted to see the most in this bundle. Yngwie is in a month but I may not go to that one, it's up in the air for now.

I'll know tomorrow how these bands ranked but so far I have it at:

Tesla
Skid Row
Warrant

I saw Whitesnake over the summer, I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't as good as Tesla since David's voice wasn't very good, but I do like them more than any of the others on that list so I think tonight will likely be the funnest show. Maybe the biggest crowd too, we wil see. Of the above, that order also matches the turn out. Warrant they had the curtains down for 1/5 of the venue too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on May 07, 2019, 07:28:38 AM: I saw Sebastian Bach solo in 2000 and he was awesome. Wild, animated, crazy, killer set of mostly Skid Row songs and decent vocals. A year or so later, I saw Skid Row (with Johnny Solinger) open for Kiss' Farewell Tour.

I can easily say that I'd much rather see Sebastian live than Skid Row, though at least ZP is a really great singer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 07, 2019, 07:43:33 AM: I was the biggest Skid Row fan back in the day. Loved the self-titled as a kid, and then Slave to the Grind really hit the sweet spot with some of the more serious subjects and heavier music. And production issues aside, I loved Subhuman Race. I tried with Solinger, and the rest, but they don't sound as edgy at all.

So, having never seen Skid Row or Baz before, I just don't know. Baz can't sing AT ALL. I mean, he was so bad on his last tour, I had a cheap ticket (15 bucks or something) and I passed given it was mid-week and I saw he was playing some lame 65-minute set with four opening bands. I had a Skid Row ticket for this TINY (less than 100 people) club in midtown about 10 years ago, and passed on that too, for some reason.

When ZP was announced, I thought they made an improvement on Solinger and Harnell. The former was just too bland, and the latter too polished. I'm interested in seeing them, but if only ZP is into it, and the rest of the band is just standing there, forget it. Such a shame. I get that Baz let his voice go to shit, and he's not easy to work with. And I realize that in their 50s, Rachel, Snake, and Scotty just don't really care, they are getting paid. But that band had something really special that still touches a nerve, and you'd think they'd at least get in a room and talk about their issues.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 07, 2019, 10:10:41 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 07, 2019, 05:11:08 AM
Checked out another Brent podcast album in Savage Messiah's Hands of Fate. This is really good. Straightfoward metal but no bullshit with some great melodies and really tasting soloing. Good length too as it doesn't overstay its welcome.

Did I not send this in your roulette? Sent it in someone’s 😀. Very good album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 07, 2019, 10:11:44 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 05, 2019, 07:45:01 PM
The second half is better, but the first half especially is kind of icky.

I liked that though. No one is doing the 80s very well at the moment. I felt the nostalgia 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2019, 11:08:09 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 07, 2019, 10:11:44 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 05, 2019, 07:45:01 PM
The second half is better, but the first half especially is kind of icky.

I liked that though. No one is doing the 80s very well at the moment. I felt the nostalgia 😀

"Nostalgia" for you is like a kidney stone for Tim. :lol
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Post by: TAC on May 07, 2019, 11:15:05 AM: :lol

That kind of nostalgia is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2019, 03:59:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 07, 2019, 10:10:41 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 07, 2019, 05:11:08 AM
Checked out another Brent podcast album in Savage Messiah's Hands of Fate. This is really good. Straightfoward metal but no bullshit with some great melodies and really tasting soloing. Good length too as it doesn't overstay its welcome.

Did I not send this in your roulette? Sent it in someone’s 😀. Very good album.

Nah mate, pretty sure you didn't. It's indeed a ripper though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM: On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 08, 2019, 12:33:11 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal

Yeah, I'm glad that the car I bought a year ago still has one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2019, 05:04:14 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal

How the fuck do you play your music then?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on May 08, 2019, 06:12:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 08, 2019, 05:04:14 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal

How the fuck do you play your music then?

Bluetooth or there is generally a USB connection...somewhere.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2019, 06:32:15 AM: I think Uncle Tim hacked Kade's account :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on May 08, 2019, 06:43:09 AM: Metal Church played near my house last weekend. Sadly, I didn't have the time to go, but it made me go back and do a bit of a deep dive into the first two records, and all of the Mike Howe albums.

I'm loving Blessed in Disguise, XI and the new one. Also enjoying Hanging in the Balance so far, and I have two of the live albums as well.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 06:57:04 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal

Now that I think about it, it's been a while since I've seen one sold with a cassette player too! :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 08, 2019, 07:04:39 AM: Quote from: Podaar on May 08, 2019, 06:12:55 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 08, 2019, 05:04:14 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal

How the fuck do you play your music then?

Bluetooth or there is generally a USB connection...somewhere.

Yes, there is, and while the young hipsters are still ripping and encoding their latest mp3 stuff to the usb-drive, I'm already cruisin' and blasting my new cd on my old-fashioned cd player. :biggrin: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2019, 07:06:30 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 06:57:04 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal

Now that I think about it, it's been a while since I've seen one sold with a cassette player too! :neverusethis:

I reckon I have the last model on Planet Earth to feature a tape deck - a 2008 Lexus RX 350
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 07:07:24 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 08, 2019, 07:06:30 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 06:57:04 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal

Now that I think about it, it's been a while since I've seen one sold with a cassette player too! :neverusethis:

I reckon I have the last model on Planet Earth to feature a tape deck - a 2008 Lexus RX 350

Why am I *not* surprised. Do you still have some Maxell XLII's to drop in there? Or were you more of a TDK guy?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2019, 07:07:49 AM: Quote from: Grappler on May 08, 2019, 06:43:09 AM
Metal Church played near my house last weekend. Sadly, I didn't have the time to go, but it made me go back and do a bit of a deep dive into the first two records, and all of the Mike Howe albums.

I'm loving Blessed in Disguise, XI and the new one. Also enjoying Hanging in the Balance so far, and I have two of the live albums as well.

:metal

Blessing In Disguise and Hanging In The Balance tied it for a spot in my DTF Top 50. The later albums don't do it for my quite as much but for me Howe is the voice of Metal Church. Never got into the earlier stuff quite as much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2019, 07:10:26 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 07:07:24 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 08, 2019, 07:06:30 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 06:57:04 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal

Now that I think about it, it's been a while since I've seen one sold with a cassette player too! :neverusethis:

I reckon I have the last model on Planet Earth to feature a tape deck - a 2008 Lexus RX 350

Why am I *not* surprised. Do you still have some Maxell XLII's to drop in there? Or were you more of a TDK guy?

TDK and Ampex :)

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcompactcassette.weebly.com%2Fuploads%2F2%2F3%2F6%2F8%2F23689969%2F7273368_orig.jpg&hash=635c88cba0db28c7a7623fec02019205088cc899)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 07:25:44 AM: Must be an Aussie brand ... never heard of it 'round here.

I went thru my cassette library at least 10 years ago, got digital copies of every song I didn't already have on CD/digital, and then tossed them. 2nd biggest regret of my life. I wish I'd kept them for nostalgia purposes alone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2019, 07:29:25 AM: Not Aussie.............maybe just not well known in Canada.

http://vintagecassettes.com/oem/ampex.htm
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 08, 2019, 07:53:54 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 07:25:44 AM
Must be an Aussie brand ... never heard of it 'round here.

I went thru my cassette library at least 10 years ago, got digital copies of every song I didn't already have on CD/digital, and then tossed them. 2nd biggest regret of my life. I wish I'd kept them for nostalgia purposes alone.

I sold a lot of old CDs and cassettes at a garage sale my parents had when I was a kid. Got like 20 bucks for my collection that I didn't want anymore. Included a lot of stuff I actually really like today. Definitely regret that and my dad like quadruple checked if I was sure I wanted to sell those.

I never had a huge cassette collection, CDs were already a thing when I started listening to music in a meaningful way in 4th grade, but I had some and no longer have any. I especially wish I had my own mixtapes from recording off the radio.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 09:02:04 AM: As a parent, if my kids ever want to do/sell something like that, *I* plan to buy it off them, and pack it away to give to them when they get their head on straight.

I sold a box of comics (like, a comic-box - those long rectangle ones) when I was 17 for $40. I had (what is now) some really rare and valuable comics in there. They were all in mint condition in their own sleeves... impeccable.. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 08, 2019, 09:51:18 AM: I sold off a bunch of CDs here years ago that I regret. I re-bought most of them used, but some were gems I'll never see again (Cleaning Out the Closet being one of them). Comics...those I have kept. Cards -- man, don't get me started. And I sold off a lot of toys/action figures that I shouldn't have. I've learned. But I have to tell you, storage is a bitch for all of it. I was literally sitting here writing out a to-do list, and added "Garage - FML" on it for this weekend. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2019, 04:18:14 PM: I just remember all my mixed tapes that I used to play in my old LeBaron. I knew those tapes inside and out and I even knew what song at what spot would be on side A when a song from side B is playing.

Also tried to win over some ladies with the mix tapes. Didn’t tend to work unfortunately
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2019, 04:37:05 PM: And Kade, keep whatever car you have for as long as you can. If you try and get a new one with CD player, it’s not likely to happen. You’ll be upset.

But most should have a usb to play your iPod but if you want cds, your options for a car is limited.

But then again if we are basing a new car purchase based on it it has a CD player or not I’m pretty sure we would be considered next level loser in society. I did bring it up with one car dealer and he just gave me a weird look.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 08, 2019, 06:30:27 PM: I think I wouldn't mind having a CD player in my car, but I just use my phone anyway and having the built in blu tooth in my newish car, it just feels like I'd never go back to CDs anyway and now there is less clutter in my car.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 07:01:27 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2019, 04:37:05 PM
I did bring it up with one car dealer and he just gave me a weird look.

I hope you backed him into the turnbuckle and chest slapped him 3 or 7 times.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2019, 07:12:17 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 07:01:27 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2019, 04:37:05 PM
I did bring it up with one car dealer and he just gave me a weird look.

I hope you backed him into the turnbuckle and chest slapped him 3 or 7 times.

Didn’t think about that. I just hit him with brass knuckles and said for him to take his non-CD player car and shove it up his ass. Darn, I should have chopped him too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 08, 2019, 07:29:07 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkRJdDZtJQI
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2019, 07:35:47 PM: I guarantee that Papa Flairs Used Cars all have cd players in them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 08, 2019, 07:38:02 PM: They probably still have cassette decks in them..
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 08:01:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 08, 2019, 07:29:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkRJdDZtJQI

:rollin :rollin

Omg, I nearly pissed myself.

:rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 09, 2019, 09:46:57 AM: A buddy of mine recently had a conversation with Sandi Saraya from the band Saraya. Looks like Sandi and Tony Rey are making new Saraya music. She talks about the band's history, what she's been up to, etc. Check it out at www.focusonmetal.net

This is gold for Saraya fans. Sandi does not do interviews at all really. She's really honest and down-to-earth. All signs point toward new music from them over the next year or so. She's really excited about it, and can still bring it vocally.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 09, 2019, 10:38:44 AM: Ironic timing for this post Brian.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=29408.msg2549663#msg2549663
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 09, 2019, 11:52:49 AM: I don’t miss CDs cluttering up the car. I use usbs in mine.

I got rid of a lot of stuff I wish I’d kept but not my lips, cassettes and cds. Couldn’t part with them. Although I may as well have because they’re all inaccessible in the attic 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 09, 2019, 12:50:25 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 09, 2019, 10:38:44 AM
Ironic timing for this post Brian.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=29408.msg2549663#msg2549663

HA! Yeah!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2019, 04:25:23 PM: Quote from: Podaar on May 08, 2019, 06:12:55 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 08, 2019, 05:04:14 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 07, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
On a side note I had been car shopping the last couple of weeks and I came to notice that it seems like 98% of new cars no longer have a CD player in it.

I’m sure most people don’t care, but most of us in this thread would get annoyed with that.

That’s ok, I’m just now full time Boneyard and Hair Nation! :metal :metal :metal :metal

How the fuck do you play your music then?

Bluetooth or there is generally a USB connection...somewhere.

I was being sarcastic. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2019, 04:29:31 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2019, 04:37:05 PM
And Kade, keep whatever car you have for as long as you can. If you try and get a new one with CD player, it’s not likely to happen. You’ll be upset.

But most should have a usb to play your iPod but if you want cds, your options for a car is limited.

But then again if we are basing a new car purchase based on it it has a CD player or not I’m pretty sure we would be considered next level loser in society. I did bring it up with one car dealer and he just gave me a weird look.

Yeah even though I was being sarcastic, I use USB's a lot now though. Although I still like the option and I don't know, cd's blasting through the car speakers IMO does sound better and clearer than digital files. I guess that's a luxury these days.

Was looking at a new car in the next couple of years so this is good to keep in mind Jason.
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2019, 04:32:23 PM: Honestly, I can't wait to get a car where I can use an aux input or a usb. I feel like I would listen to so much more music and it would eliminate a giant ass pile of CD all over my van.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 11, 2019, 04:20:40 AM: I have an usb drive too and can connect my iphone with the car stereo. And while that is cool, sometimes I want to listen to that one special record and that's probably not on my phone or the usb drive, because my music collection is just too big. And then I'm glad I still have that cd player.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 12, 2019, 04:04:10 AM: I have to say I’m loving the new Whitesnake. Went in with no expectations after the singles but it’s great. Cov is the weak link but nowhere near as bad as I feared. Love the track Sands of Time. Has a Blackmore feel to it.
Colour me surprised

Is it just me or has every Whitesnake album since 1987 had a variation of the same cover..? The snakeskin background with the seal on top.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 12, 2019, 11:09:47 AM: I gave it a spin on spotify, it's better than I expected but I'm not sure if I really need this record. Coverdale's voice is shot and you especially hear it when he goes for the high notes. Some cool songs, a lot of generic Whitesnake and as always some stupid I love you/I want you lyrics. But I agree, Sands Of Time is a really great song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2019, 12:48:17 PM: I've liked what I've heard from the new Whitesnake on Hair Nation. It all sounds like old school WS to me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 12, 2019, 04:32:24 PM: Played it again in the car this evening and still liked it. The song Heart Of Stone is classic Whitesnake and I would put it on a best of album. Best Whitesnake song since Slip Of The Tongue.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 12, 2019, 07:55:07 PM: OK, thanks jerks! ;D

I cannot believe you made attempt a listen to the new Whitesnake album.

It blows! I seriously couldn't make it through the third song.

This has no soul and no..well...it has nothing.

Coverdale sounds like ass. I mean, no disrespect, the guy is 90, right? So fucking generic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2019, 08:52:11 PM: Tim you can stick with your Children of Bodom while Paul and myself listen to our Whitesnake ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 12, 2019, 09:20:54 PM: Interesting :lol Guess I had better take a listen . I was in the "can't be bothered" camp after the first single but it seems to be getting good reviews here and elsewhere (death metal heads aside :D ) and so I will get onto it.

re the album cover - I think it's a shocker and that's from someone who would rank 1987 as one of my all time favourites. The rehashed cover design is getting very stale (Cover-stale) and the graphics are not sharp at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2019, 11:14:32 PM: I wonder why the complacency with the album covers the last ten years. On their older albums they had some pretty cool covers.

Brent does 1987 rank in the high 90’s on your scoring? I would pretty much give it a 10/10; I can’t really think of anything wrong with it at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 12, 2019, 11:53:50 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 12, 2019, 11:14:32 PM
I wonder why the complacency with the album covers the last ten years. On their older albums they had some pretty cool covers.

Brent does 1987 rank in the high 90’s on your scoring? I would pretty much give it a 10/10; I can’t really think of anything wrong with it at all.

1987 came in at No 9 on my DTF Top 50 .................so yeah I would say high 90's. The only reason I would scrape off a little is that Children of The Night was a song I always considered to be a bit below the standard of the rest of the album. Just felt a bit "filler-ish" but that's relative to a bunch of amazing songs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on May 13, 2019, 03:12:22 AM: 1987 great album musically and production, but ugh those awful Coverdale lyrics kill it for me.
Back in the day I didn't mind them so much, as it was the era for cock rock lyrics, but as I have got older they haven't aged well at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2019, 04:54:54 AM: Since I'd put on a Children of Bodom cd over a Whitesnake album at the moment I guess I better leave. ;D

I'm in the 'couldn't be fucked' camp, like most things lately really but might have to give it a spin. Tim's review isn't encouraging however.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2019, 07:13:29 AM: I’ll still pass on the new whitesnake though

And absolutely pass on the new children of bodom
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 13, 2019, 08:14:11 AM: I didn't think Coverdale sounded good on the new album, but the songs I heard were pretty solid albeit sounds just like Whitesnake pretty much. However, I thought the new songs were really good live. I recorded one of them last week at their show, I was surprised with how good Coverdale sounded live that night. I thought he was terrible last year when I saw them.

Whitesnake - Hey You (You Make Me Rock) LIVE @ Starland Ballroom Sayreville NJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98WHB5mUXNs)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 14, 2019, 12:16:11 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 12, 2019, 11:14:32 PM
I wonder why the complacency with the album covers the last ten years. On their older albums they had some pretty cool covers.

Brent does 1987 rank in the high 90’s on your scoring? I would pretty much give it a 10/10; I can’t really think of anything wrong with it at all.

I used to have a back patch with the Lovehunter cover. Got me a kiss on the cheek at school from the hottest rock chick a few years older than me. I’ll always thank Whitesnake for that 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 14, 2019, 03:47:18 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 14, 2019, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 12, 2019, 11:14:32 PM
I wonder why the complacency with the album covers the last ten years. On their older albums they had some pretty cool covers.

Brent does 1987 rank in the high 90’s on your scoring? I would pretty much give it a 10/10; I can’t really think of anything wrong with it at all.

I used to have a back patch with the Lovehunter cover. Got me a kiss on the cheek at school from the hottest rock chick a few years older than me. I’ll always thank Whitesnake for that

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MadeupGentleHarrier-small.gif)

Just noticed Coverdale can't wink? haha.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 16, 2019, 04:57:17 AM: I finally got through the Whitesnake . I reckon it's a bit one dimensional and clearly a bit more towards the hair metal style than the Aldrich albums. Having said that it's pretty solid from start to finish and sounds pretty good , which is a decent effort across 15 tracks (incl. bonus tracks). I tend to agree with a few opinions I have read re Sands of Time being the standout track.

If I had to give a points rating - high 70's , maybe 80.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 16, 2019, 09:27:25 AM: Here's the thing on the new 'Snake. I think I've just outgrown what they do. I love the older stuff. But when listening to the new one, I just...I just don't really feel it. It's not a bad record at all, but not sure what else to say.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on May 16, 2019, 09:31:38 AM: Quote from: cramx3 on May 13, 2019, 08:14:11 AM
I didn't think Coverdale sounded good on the new album, but the songs I heard were pretty solid albeit sounds just like Whitesnake pretty much. However, I thought the new songs were really good live. I recorded one of them last week at their show, I was surprised with how good Coverdale sounded live that night. I thought he was terrible last year when I saw them.

Whitesnake - Hey You (You Make Me Rock) LIVE @ Starland Ballroom Sayreville NJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98WHB5mUXNs)

Was he really singing? Did he appear to have help? Serious questions; some of the vocals in the choruses on the recent material lend themselves to "help", and while I think he is a WAY better singer than people credit him for (listen to the live acoustic stuff from Tokyo; his voice is liquid gold on that material) I also don't think he's above a little background support.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 16, 2019, 09:40:36 AM: He has a lot of background vocal support. The whole band is really good actually and I don't mind the backing vocals supporting the main lines at times. He definitely sings plenty but it's certainly noticeable that a lot of main vocal parts come from the whole band and not him at times though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 16, 2019, 02:23:59 PM: And that’s fine. You don’t want to pay good money to hear awful singing. I’m fine withthe band helping out.

I’d rather hear the Whitesnake than the Arch Matheos that everyone seems to be dreaming over. I found it boring and bland. Last one was so much better
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 16, 2019, 02:59:23 PM: When I saw Whitesnake back in...has to be seven or eight years ago (it was when Priest was doing the anniversary of British Steel tour), I saw a local festival with Whitesnake, Priest, and Tesla. First and only time seeing Whitesnake. Coverdale has exactly the same issue live that Joe Elliott of Def Leppard does. His lower voice is there, and he can do falsetto to cover the fact his natural high voice is gone, but his mid-range is non-existent. It was weird. Obviously, in-studio, they figure it out, because he can sing the same line a gazillion times to get it. But live, that's the drawback of Coverdale these days. His mid-range, and primary vocal, is shot. So they lower the key so he can sing it lower, and have the other guys fill it all in with the mid-range and highs. Lepp's been doing it for 20 years now.

Is what it is. I have no desire to see Whitesnake or Lepp again, but both put on great shows, despite the singer limitations.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 16, 2019, 03:08:44 PM: I don't know, Joe's voice isn't as good on the highs either, but he sounds fantastic overall from the 4 times I've seen them in the last few years. I'm shocked how he holds up so well because DL tours so extensively too. If you are holding back on these bands because of the lead singer, I think you are just holding yourself back. Joe is still great live (as is all of DL) and I won't comment too much on Whitesnake. I really enjoyed their recent show but last year I did not think they were quite as good. Never seen a bad Def Leppard show.

Here's my video from the last time I saw DL

Def Leppard - When Love and Hate Collide @ Prudential Center Newark NJ 6/15/18 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM0UmMbqYxk)

The chorus of this song is sung high, but it's definitely a bit lower than the album, but he sounds great if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on May 16, 2019, 03:40:47 PM: Cram - not sure if the "holding back on seeing" comment was directed at me, or just generally, but I've seen both. Enjoyed both shows. But the vocals were rough. Lepp's were better, because the guys in the band are good singers and helped Joe really well. Whitesnake, at least back then, it was a little more obvious things were rough.
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Post by: cramx3 on May 16, 2019, 03:43:55 PM: Yea, that was meant for you, but that was awhile ago so I thinkif you are still holding back on DL because of the vocals from a show in the past, maybe you should take a look again. I've read online from others who feel he sounds better than a long long time.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 16, 2019, 04:44:09 PM: I tend to agree with Cram re Joe Elliott - for his age he is doing an amazing job (when I have seen him..............most recently last year). I found his low-mid range fine and he uses a falsetto on the highs where he used to power on.

Coverdale was pretty much shot when I saw him early 90's and has been getting worse and worse - he actually employs musicians these days as much for their vocals as their instrumental prowess. They still manage to put on a decent show as he seems to have the vocal sharing (and huge reverb) down to an artform.
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Post by: TAC on May 16, 2019, 06:06:19 PM: Is Michel Luppe still in Whitesnake. That guy is amazing vocally.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 16, 2019, 06:26:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 16, 2019, 06:06:19 PM
Is Michel Luppe still in Whitesnake. That guy is amazing vocally.

Perfect example of Coverdale covering his ass ;D And yes, as far as I know he is still in the band.
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Post by: TAC on May 16, 2019, 06:30:28 PM: They should have Coverdale play the wimpy keyboard parts and just have Luppi sing the whole show. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2019, 11:28:44 PM: Reb Beach I thought was initially brought in because of his vocals as he did fuck all soloing when Doug was there. Seems like he's become Dave's main right hand man, or at least more evenly split with Joel.
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Post by: cramx3 on May 17, 2019, 06:03:44 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 16, 2019, 06:06:19 PM
Is Michel Luppe still in Whitesnake. That guy is amazing vocally.

Quote from: wolfking on May 16, 2019, 11:28:44 PM
Reb Beach I thought was initially brought in because of his vocals as he did fuck all soloing when Doug was there. Seems like he's become Dave's main right hand man, or at least more evenly split with Joel.

He does the band introductions with Luppe and calls Beach "our fearless band leader" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ZwHiBg1Tg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ZwHiBg1Tg)

and you guys are probably 100% right that their vocal abilities play a role in being in this band.
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2019, 06:25:13 AM: Reb's worked hard to get that title. When he and Doug joined, Doug was clearly the favourite by a mile so he's done well.
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Post by: Samsara on May 17, 2019, 09:09:09 AM: The thing with Reb (as all of you know, I'm a big fan of Winger) is that while he can sing, he's not a lead singer. Nowhere close. I mean, he's not Jerry Cantrell (who was more of a harmony singer until AiC needed that counterpoint), or even Chris DeGarmo. Reb's simply a decent singer. He'd probably even admit to that.

As for his role in Whitesnake, I think Joel will ultimately be the guy for Coverdale. I think there's a reason Reb has been in the band so long, and is just now getting a couple (just a few) writing credits on a record. Ultimately, he has certainly earned that "Musical Director" title for his longevity and ability to get everyone on the same page. But I think Joel and David will be the band's primary writing unit if they ever do another record. Reb's more of a collaborator, and I think he perhaps doesn't gel, writing-wise, with David as he does with Kip Winger. Just a guess.
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2019, 11:55:44 PM: Anyone know what the writing credits look like on the new album?
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Post by: cramx3 on May 23, 2019, 04:00:41 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on March 22, 2019, 03:44:15 PM
I bought a "ticket to rock" bundle at my local medium sized concert hall and it came with a ticket to like 6 rock concerts...

So my ticket sold today for Yngwie Malmsteen meaning my ticket to rock bundle has ended. I really havent heard anything positive about this guy and the new songs I heard weren't my thing, so figured let me get my money back if possible. So that bundle cost $200 flat.

I went to:

Whitesnake
Skid Row
Tesla
Warrant

Sold:

Yngwie Malmsteen
Dokken

Missed/Unsold:

Dark Sky Choir

After stubhub fees, I got 64 dollars paid for the two tickets sold, meaning I saw the four concerts for $136. I don't think it turned out to be a bad deal after all. I enjoyed all of the shows for the most part. Whitesnake was easily the best.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2019, 07:02:42 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on May 23, 2019, 04:00:41 PM

I went to:

Whitesnake
Skid Row
Tesla
Warrant

I saw the four concerts for $136. I don't think it turned out to be a bad deal after all. I enjoyed all of the shows for the most part. Whitesnake was easily the best.

So you paid $34 for each show. I wouldn't have paid $34 to see those bands in 1989, never mind now. The exception is Tesla of course. Worth every penny.
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Post by: cramx3 on May 23, 2019, 07:39:57 PM: The problem was Whitesnake was 60 alone. But sure if you compare to 30 years ago... I do have to say though, concerts have gotten very expensive, I've noticed a big rise this year. Although on the other hand, I paid $25 at the door last weekend for Devin Townsend and Avatar and that was by far more production value than maybe all four of the above concerts combined and much less people than Whitesnake or Tesla.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2019, 07:45:15 PM: Marc, concerts are ridiculously expensive now. Going back 30 years to 1989, looking at my list, I went to 17 concerts that year. Most of them major arena shows. No way I could do that now.
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Post by: cramx3 on May 23, 2019, 07:48:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 23, 2019, 07:45:15 PM
Marc, concerts are ridiculously expensive now. Going back 30 years to 1989, looking at my list, I went to 17 concerts that year. Most of them major arena shows. No way I could do that now.

It's a VERY expensive habit I must say. I'd say it's worth it for me, but I don't have kids. I may have to cut back a bit though given my living situation got a bit more expensive, but I may just have to get scrappier.
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Post by: TAC on May 23, 2019, 07:54:41 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on May 23, 2019, 07:48:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 23, 2019, 07:45:15 PM
Marc, concerts are ridiculously expensive now. Going back 30 years to 1989, looking at my list, I went to 17 concerts that year. Most of them major arena shows. No way I could do that now.

It's a VERY expensive habit I must say. I'd say it's worth it for me, but I don't have kids. I may have to cut back a bit though given my living situation got a bit more expensive, but I may just have to get scrappier.

You can draw a direct line of my concert frequency, or lack thereof, with my getting remarried.
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Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2019, 03:12:51 PM: Been doing some roulette/podcast listening finally. Here's what's been spinning;

Black Fate - Between Vision and Lies - Solid. I have no issue with the Kamelot influences here, it's done pretty well. Nothing really mindblowing and probably not something that will have lasting effect but happy to listen again. Enjoyable.

Damnations Day - A World Awakens - The first thing I notice about these guys is the high quality sound. Everything about these guys is top class and it's amazing a little band from Melbourne produces an album of this sound and quality. They really have an Alter Bridge feel to them but everything here was very yenjoyable and definitely a band I'll be getting into more.

Sorcerer - The Crowning of the Fire King - Now this smokes. I talked about the high quality pro sound and performances on Damnations Day, this is no different. How are these guys not any more well known. The performances and songwriting and just everything about this album is top notch. I thought during that it might suffer from no faster songs but surprisingly with the quality, it doesn't. A perfect cross between Tony Martin era Sabbath and Candlemass IMO. The closer is amazing. Great album, wicked band. I like that they don't have to detune heavily to get that doomy sound. It's all done in songwriting and delivery, like Candlemass and Sabbath I guess. I will also add the soloing here is all very tasteful. Can see why this topped Brent's 2017 list.

Pantommind - Searching for Eternity - I don't know if it's because I listened to this after Sorcerer but I only got a few songs through. Pretty standard somewhat forgettable prog metal.

Rivers of Nihil - Where Owls Know My Name - One of those albums where you can't recall a thing afterwards but promising. Had some nice moments and really like the vocals. I'll listen to this again.

Icon - Night of the Crime - Really good melodic rock. Nothing flash but very enjoyable. The Holy Diver rip was funny and although I'll pretend the last song doesn't exist.

Elegy - Labyrinth of Dreams - Listened to this before but great band. Atrue underrated gem here Brent. Nice shred.
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Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2019, 04:48:39 AM: Funny, the second spin of the Damnations Day was nowhere near as good as the first.

The Sorcerer however, I recommend everyone to check it out, wonderful.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2019, 05:43:34 AM: Well, regarding DD, I think you're daft.

I'll re-listen to that Sorcerer album though, I don't recall much about it from the podcast.
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Post by: Evermind on May 26, 2019, 05:47:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 24, 2019, 03:12:51 PM
Rivers of Nihil - Where Owls Know My Name - One of those albums where you can't recall a thing afterwards but promising. Had some nice moments and really like the vocals. I'll listen to this again.

I've never listened to this album or band but I saw it mentioned here and there and didn't think it was hard rock/metal, I kinda imagined it being more like singer-songwriter acoustic stuff. Now I'm intrigued.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 26, 2019, 09:05:56 AM: This changing of your avatars always throws me off the track. Why is Kloppo posting here? Oh wait, it's Evermind. Why does a russian have an avatar of a german soccer coach, who's working in England?

Look at jingle, he doesn't even change back from his christmas avatar. That's the continuity I need. :laugh:
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Post by: Evermind on May 26, 2019, 09:25:48 AM: Well I've kept Harry Redknapp avatar for six years, so I guess now is as good time as any to change that. Starting the new, Klopp era I guess.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2019, 10:56:26 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on May 26, 2019, 09:05:56 AM
This changing of your avatars always throws me off the track. Why is Kloppo posting here? Oh wait, it's Evermind. Why does a russian have an avatar of a german soccer coach, who's working in England?

Look at jingle, he doesn't even change back from his christmas avatar. That's the continuity I need. :laugh:

Glad to be of service ;D. Changing avatar's is bad enough - the odd times that someone convinces bosk to let them change their username REALLY throws me for a loop. For a few days, I was wondering who the hell Cyril was.
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Post by: Evermind on May 26, 2019, 11:00:33 AM: No shit. I'm glad I've caught Parama in plug right after the name change so I wasn't quite caught that off-guard as I could've been.

I feel the avatar change is appropriate right now though. Hoping for another six peaceful years on DTF.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 26, 2019, 11:52:39 AM: Yeah, username change should be banned. ;D For a short time I thought Parama had a double account, because Cyril certainly talked like him.

Quote from: Evermind on May 26, 2019, 11:00:33 AM
I feel the avatar change is appropriate right now though.

Even if he loses the final?
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Post by: Evermind on May 26, 2019, 11:58:22 AM: I've been a fan of Klopp since he was managing Borussia Dortmund so yes indeed. He's just charismatic as fuck.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 26, 2019, 12:19:01 PM: Quote from: Evermind on May 26, 2019, 11:58:22 AM
I've been a fan of Klopp since he was managing Borussia Dortmund so yes indeed. He's just charismatic as fuck.

I'm with you on that, he's charismatic, authentic* and he knows a thing or two about football.

* even if he got hair implants and false teeth ;)
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 01, 2019, 06:30:43 AM: (https://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Diamond-Head-The-Coffin-Train.png?w=380&h=380&crop=1)

Holy fuck this was a great listen. Jay's probably gonna go all :getoffmylawn: on me since he sent me a Diamond Head song in my roulette that I was entirely ambivalent about, but wow! This was awesome.

I love how these mature/classic bands can put out some truly awesome stuff in the later stages of their career.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 01, 2019, 06:40:30 PM: I didn't even realize Diamond Head was releasing something new. I'll check this out for sure.
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Post by: TAC on June 01, 2019, 06:55:15 PM: Wow Chad, you ain't kidding. Very nice. I loved that first 1:25 intro to The Messenger :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on June 01, 2019, 11:29:32 PM: I think I had their last one in a Best Of 2016 top ten..........look forward to checking it out at some point. Really not finding time at the moment for much music :(

I also need to get a hold of the new Death Angel - one of the few old school thrash bands that seem to get better and better (and more melodic) as they age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4dTl9CI3uU
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Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2019, 04:02:53 AM: The Coffin Train?! :lol

Fuck you gotta love metal!! :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2019, 07:01:40 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 01, 2019, 11:29:32 PM
I think I had their last one in a Best Of 2016 top ten..........look forward to checking it out at some point. Really not finding time at the moment for much music :(

It doesn't help that there isn't a lot of good stuff coming out. So far this year, I've only tried out 26 new releases. I found a few lingering gems from late 2018, but there ain't much that seems to tickle my pickle. I've also been fairly time constrained as well, so that might have something to do with it.

This was another great listen yesterday - very big Dynazty vibe in the sense it's kinda glammy, but modern sounding. It's actually a Frontiers release, but (imo) Frontiers doesn't deserve them.

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fspillmagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F10%2FCity-Of-Thieves.jpg&hash=8ba788ae10725ce66017788b4a1f3a266892ca13)
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Post by: ozzy554 on June 02, 2019, 07:15:48 PM: Diamond Head is a band that I have liked pretty much everything I stumbled across by them but I never found the time to dig into their discography. That being said the new album is great. The production is fantastic and the entire band sounds like they're firing on all cylinders. The singer especially knocked it out of the park.
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Post by: TAC on June 02, 2019, 07:16:45 PM: Yeah, I thought the vocals were excellent.
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Post by: TAC on June 03, 2019, 07:30:54 PM: Some classic styled heavy metal!

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a4054287779_10.jpg)

https://riotcityofficial.bandcamp.com/releases

https://open.spotify.com/album/08pgHOzsTZwcC9zWoeJY2O?si=z3DA46zaT6mTMVk8PP38xw

I like it!
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 04, 2019, 01:59:42 PM: Sebastian Bach is coming here. Would it be worth going to see. He's doing all of Skid Row in its entirety.
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Post by: Samsara on June 04, 2019, 02:56:18 PM: Baz can't sing any longer. But I'd go. I'd prefer seeing Slave to the Grind in its entirety, but its still cool. If he does a second leg of this and adds my city, I'll go.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 04, 2019, 03:38:11 PM: Quote from: Evermind on May 26, 2019, 11:58:22 AM
I've been a fan of Klopp since he was managing Borussia Dortmund so yes indeed. He's just charismatic as fuck.

Love him. I’m a Liverpool fan so he is rather popular at 5he moment 😀
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Post by: Lowdz on June 04, 2019, 03:41:46 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 01, 2019, 06:40:30 PM
I didn't even realize Diamond Head was releasing something new. I'll check this out for sure.

I haven’t heard a single song by them, other than a coupl3 of covers by other bands. Just completely passed me by. Looks like I’ll haveto get on this.

Also looking forward to th3 new Death Angel.

Have you heard the new Savage Messiah anyone? I like it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 04, 2019, 06:29:13 PM: Yeah, listened to it just yesterday and today. Good stuff
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2019, 02:42:01 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 04, 2019, 03:41:46 PM
Have you heard the new Savage Messiah anyone? I like it.

I checked a couple of songs on youtube. They were okay but didn't seem as good as the last one.
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2019, 02:45:19 PM: I have completely forgotten about the new Lord. That should be well out by now. Anyone heard it?
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2019, 03:01:40 PM: Looks like it's not out, can't find any info besies a launch party in Brisbane at the end of the month.
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2019, 03:52:23 PM: Finally found former Hibria vocalist Iuri Sanson.

He's on the latest Eternity's End album

(https://www.metalcrypt.com/images/cd/_e/eternitysendunyielding.png)

Title track (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOvA-4bXTQ)

I have their first album saved on Spotify. A Chadomendation, I think.

Mike Lepond is also part of this band.
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2019, 05:50:39 PM: I'll give that song a strong solid Tim. Good solo section.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 07, 2019, 05:56:33 PM: Probably a rec from me. Their first album has Ian Parry on lead vocals. I found Unyielding to be just 'ok'.

Kade... I heard one track from the new Lord on their Bandcamp page - https://lordofficial.bandcamp.com/album/united-ep
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2019, 06:48:02 PM: Iuri Sanson's vocals are ridiculous.

Quote from: jingle.boy on June 07, 2019, 05:56:33 PM
Probably a rec from me. Their first album has Ian Parry on lead vocals. I found Unyielding to be just 'ok'.

I don't know who Ian Parry is. The band talked about being a bit more metal, and wrote away from progressive elements. Might be too Power Metal for ya.

But I think it's pretty strong. Some great players, plus Sanson, of course. The first two Hibria albums are must haves as far as I am concerned.
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2019, 04:31:32 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 07, 2019, 05:56:33 PM
Probably a rec from me. Their first album has Ian Parry on lead vocals. I found Unyielding to be just 'ok'.

Kade... I heard one track from the new Lord on their Bandcamp page - https://lordofficial.bandcamp.com/album/united-ep

Yeah mate, I remember checking the vid out when it was realeased, pretty good. Looking forward to it.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2019, 12:24:34 PM: it seems that Andre Matos (ex-Angra) has passed away. :-\ Totally unexpected from what I know.

RIP

Must dig out Angels Crying (a DTF Top 50 for me) - haven't listened in many years.
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Post by: TAC on June 08, 2019, 01:38:51 PM: Wow!
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2019, 02:55:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 08, 2019, 12:24:34 PM
it seems that Andre Matos (ex-Angra) has passed away. :-\ Totally unexpected from what I know.

RIP

Must dig out Angels Crying (a DTF Top 50 for me) - haven't listened in many years.

Fucking what!?!?! Holy shit!!! :'(
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Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2019, 03:16:53 PM: He was singing with Avantasia a few days ago. Far too young.
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Post by: Evermind on June 09, 2019, 12:41:30 AM: Wait what the fuck?
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 09, 2019, 06:09:01 AM: He was only 3 months older than me. :-\ :sad: :(
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Post by: TAC on June 09, 2019, 12:26:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 07, 2019, 05:56:33 PM
Probably a rec from me. Their first album has Ian Parry on lead vocals. I found Unyielding to be just 'ok'.

Unyielding is about as solid and heavy of a Power Metal as can be. Plus, I love the vocalist.
Been spinning this nonstop over the last couple of days. Loving it.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2019, 06:39:30 AM: Watching these guys is making me feel very old .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsOzk0uKYgo&t=498s
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Post by: TAC on June 12, 2019, 06:45:47 AM: I saw this the other day. They have great chemistry.
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Post by: Samsara on June 12, 2019, 09:53:34 AM: Listening to Killing is My Business from Megadeth. The more recent FINAL KILL version. I always forget just how raw and incredible it is. So super heavy.
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Post by: TAC on June 12, 2019, 10:04:40 AM: Amen, Brother!
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2019, 10:50:07 AM: Intervention required to save this from dropping on to page 2!

Quote from: Vanden Plas FB feed
BREAKING NEWS: Prog metallers Vanden Plas Official will release their ninth studio album, "The Ghost Xperiment - Awakening" on October 11th. First single, pre-orders and more info coming soon.

(https://scontent.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64675522_2306690412720330_5464856953672957952_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_eui2=AeGM6BZ0s1FBBnrE9JutI9mM_ckbM4jp5VHfAKA6XFnEqZ-ArR_PUuLainp54kNEaNVpr573naPKN1psJbKO0B__dqGwKV_zttzMISgr-3vT1Q&_nc_oc=AQlOVnByh96wgwGRxhXu4A7PG4Z_UQrKGmW6WIAVAV87x_rWF7HFlBcPUgtzrq4mWSc&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz2-2.fna&oh=ad15e84ebcc7f4530f82eebeae720217&oe=5D943694)

It's about damn time!
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Post by: Evermind on June 20, 2019, 11:58:31 AM: This'll be a first day purchase for me. Shame it's not a month earlier, could've bought a copy in the Netherlands on release day.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2019, 12:27:32 PM: Yup... Oct 11 is gonna be a nice 1-2 punch with this and The Ferrymen.
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Post by: Evermind on June 20, 2019, 12:29:26 PM: That's Magnus Karlsson's thing, right? I will probably check it out too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2019, 12:31:54 PM: Quote from: Evermind on June 20, 2019, 12:29:26 PM
That's Magnus Karlsson's thing, right? I will probably check it out too.

Indeedy
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Post by: TAC on June 20, 2019, 12:36:53 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 20, 2019, 12:27:32 PM
Yup... Oct 11 is gonna be a nice 1-2 punch with this and The Ferrymen.

Why, is there anything interesting being released?
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Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2019, 05:29:50 PM: All over this one.
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Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2019, 02:37:42 AM: Went to the shops today and saw the Sweet Oblivion at JB. Decided to pick it up and won't listen until probably Monday but will post thoughts.

I think this is the first full length Tate effort I will listen to since FU. Hoping I haven't purchased another drink coaster.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 22, 2019, 02:48:17 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 22, 2019, 02:37:42 AM
Went to the shops today and saw the Sweet Oblivion at JB. Decided to pick it up and won't listen until probably Monday but will post thoughts.

I think this is the first full length Tate effort I will listen to since FU. Hoping I haven't purchased another drink coaster.

Probably the best thing he has done since Promised Land but that's not saying much. I liked it but it had that feel of a "project" and , for me at least , the songwriting was solid but not very memorable for the most part. Unfortunately after a few listens I am getting the same from Teramaze - it's well below Her Halo imho.
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Post by: wolfking on June 22, 2019, 03:04:15 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 22, 2019, 02:48:17 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 22, 2019, 02:37:42 AM
Went to the shops today and saw the Sweet Oblivion at JB. Decided to pick it up and won't listen until probably Monday but will post thoughts.

I think this is the first full length Tate effort I will listen to since FU. Hoping I haven't purchased another drink coaster.

Probably the best thing he has done since Promised Land but that's not saying much. I liked it but it had that feel of a "project" and , for me at least , the songwriting was solid but not very memorable for the most part. Unfortunately after a few listens I am getting the same from Teramaze - it's well below Her Halo imho.

Thought I might have seen the Teramaze too but not to be. I'll try and have a listen next week.

I know the Tate is a project thing as it's Frontiers. Not expecting much as I'm not that keen on Simones songwriting but gis playing should offer some enjoyment.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 22, 2019, 03:08:51 AM: Yeah - his songwriting can be a bit samey but he's done a pretty good job. It's certainly worth a listen and I will come back to it at some point , but (unlike most albums I really rate) I wasn't itching to have another listen straight away.

My fave on the Teramaze is actually the last song - Depopulate - so don't give up before then if you're struggling.............it's the closest to something off Her Halo.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 22, 2019, 04:44:26 AM: Agree wholeheartedly with both your comments re Teramaze, Brent. Plus, I like Nathan's voice better than Brett's.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 22, 2019, 09:00:32 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 22, 2019, 04:44:26 AM
Agree wholeheartedly with both your comments re Teramaze, Brent. Plus, I like Nathan's voice better than Brett's.

:D - and I agree on Nathan. To me Brett is a good singer but there's nothing special about his voice. After listening to the album I really don't know what they were on about re Nathan not being suited to the music. I was expecting quite a departure in style (much heavier) but I don't see any great reason for the change.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 22, 2019, 07:36:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 22, 2019, 02:37:42 AM
Went to the shops today and saw the Sweet Oblivion at JB. Decided to pick it up and won't listen until probably Monday but will post thoughts.

I think this is the first full length Tate effort I will listen to since FU. Hoping I haven't purchased another drink coaster.

I did like those three songs that were released from this album. Curious to know what you think of the rest.

Because we all know when it comes to Tate reviews, nobody writes them better than the wolfster.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 26, 2019, 06:51:41 AM: I have never been overly impressed with anything from Black Star Riders (Ricky Warwick/Scott Gorham + a revolving door) but what I have heard from the album due in September sounds like a step up. Might be worth watching for fans of Lizzy style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VVvp_jnUX8
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Post by: wolfking on June 26, 2019, 04:08:45 PM: I posted some thoughts in the Tate thread about Sweet Oblivion. I really quite like it. It's a Frontiers factory churned cash grab but I like it.
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Post by: TAC on June 26, 2019, 06:12:49 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 26, 2019, 06:51:41 AM
I have never been overly impressed with anything from Black Star Riders (Ricky Warwick/Scott Gorham + a revolving door) but what I have heard from the album due in September sounds like a step up. Might be worth watching for fans of Lizzy style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VVvp_jnUX8

I didn't love that. Thin Lizzy is one of my favorite bands, but I've never really given the BSR a chance. The (very) few tunes I've heard are really just OK. Still, I think it's great that Scott Gorham is still kicking.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 26, 2019, 07:45:22 PM: Yeah...............can't say I am in love with it either (chorus a bit weak?) but as an advance track I get the feeling that they might be about to deliver something a bit more "solid" and harder edged :) I had pretty much written them off but will check out the album.
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Post by: TAC on June 30, 2019, 05:46:55 AM: MegaTrump (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui983Y99hFs)
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Post by: bl5150 on June 30, 2019, 06:05:29 AM: Ben will love that :lol - big Trump "fan"
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Post by: bl5150 on July 14, 2019, 07:38:13 AM: I love Arena of Pleasure from The Crimson Idol.

Blackie sounding great but timing is a little off :lol

https://youtu.be/fPGu4VN7bLA?t=2160
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 14, 2019, 07:41:33 AM: Yikes
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 14, 2019, 07:47:59 AM: (https://media.giphy.com/media/H7iEm8CKI9ZAs/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Evermind on July 14, 2019, 07:48:39 AM: Oof
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Post by: TAC on July 14, 2019, 02:30:55 PM: Wow! FUCK THAT! What an absolute piece of shit.
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Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2019, 03:41:10 PM: Blackie what are you doing lad. Total miming now, jeez bud that makes a diehard fan disappointed.
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Post by: TAC on July 14, 2019, 03:46:26 PM: Still influenced by KISS's current tour as well.
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Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2019, 04:34:42 PM: Is this common in the rock metal thing with singers completely miming? I know Coverdale's been doing it or at least some form of major backing. Just seems a bit......not a metal thing to do.
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Post by: gazinwales on July 14, 2019, 06:01:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 14, 2019, 03:41:10 PM
Blackie what are you doing lad. Total miming now, jeez bud that makes a diehard fan disappointed.

Hate to break this you mate, but's he's been miming live for years.
I saw him back in 2007 headlining Tuska Festival in Helsinki and we could clearly see that Blackie was faking it.
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Post by: TAC on July 14, 2019, 06:08:39 PM: Why would anyone go see that? (Not directed at you gaz!)
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 14, 2019, 10:05:13 PM: I skipped through the video before and after and it seems like Blackie is singing most of what I watched. Was it just Arena of Pleasure? When he was singing he sounded like I would expect him to sound at this point in his career, not great but passable. Seems strange.
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Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2019, 11:42:51 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 14, 2019, 06:01:32 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 14, 2019, 03:41:10 PM
Blackie what are you doing lad. Total miming now, jeez bud that makes a diehard fan disappointed.

Hate to break this you mate, but's he's been miming live for years.
I saw him back in 2007 headlining Tuska Festival in Helsinki and we could clearly see that Blackie was faking it.

I knew he's had backings for years but I dunno, thought it was just here and there and the odd backing vocals. I could tell when I saw them on the Crimson Idol tour there was a fair bit of this but didn't see anything that blatant. I guess he has to be really good at it and this was a slip up.
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Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2019, 04:31:00 PM: New Pretty Maids, Nov 8th. Undress Your Madness.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/pretty-maids-to-release-undress-your-madness-album-in-november/

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fmedia%2Fprettymaidsundressyourmadnesscd.jpg&hash=00f85437bf8531913cf0345aa5cf8c2dfcef6b3d)
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Post by: cramx3 on July 16, 2019, 05:22:05 PM: I'd be more hyped if they were still playing ProgPower, but still I had just got their previous release and really enjoyed it, so I am interested still.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 17, 2019, 10:53:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 14, 2019, 03:46:26 PM
Still influenced by KISS's current tour as well.

Hey, I went to KIiSS in Manchester on Friday night. No miming there at all. Paul Stanley was passable but as always, the show was entertaining. I had to say thank you for all the pleasure they’ve given me since I was 10 years old.

They don’t play many of my favourite songs Live, but they are always worth a watch.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 17, 2019, 10:55:47 AM: Good to see a new Pretty Maids. Recent albums have been very good.

I played Future World in the car today.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2019, 11:27:02 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 17, 2019, 10:53:41 AM
Quote from: TAC on July 14, 2019, 03:46:26 PM
Still influenced by KISS's current tour as well.

Hey, I went to KIiSS in Manchester on Friday night. No miming there at all. Paul Stanley was passable but as always, the show was entertaining. I had to say thank you for all the pleasure they’ve given me since I was 10 years old.

They don’t play many of my favourite songs Live, but they are always worth a watch.

:metal :metal :metal :metal

I want to see another show too!!
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Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2019, 04:02:20 PM: New Ferrymen;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=543KrTQQidQ

Pretty good.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 31, 2019, 05:06:20 PM: Caught that earlier. I dug it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 01, 2019, 06:17:26 AM: And new Lord is out today. Got the album for free from some guy on the PPUSA FB page. Not sure why he gives albums away for free, but I'll take it!

https://lordofficial.bandcamp.com/album/fallen-idols

It's also up on Spotify.
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Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2019, 05:44:28 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 01, 2019, 06:17:26 AM
And new Lord is out today. Got the album for free from some guy on the PPUSA FB page. Not sure why he gives albums away for free, but I'll take it!

https://lordofficial.bandcamp.com/album/fallen-idols

It's also up on Spotify.

WTF? I'm sure the band is happy with that lol.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 02, 2019, 05:54:56 AM: The dude pays for it, and then sends it as a "gift" via bandcamp (to 5 people). He seems to do this routinely with certain albums. Katt got a copy too (and got a copy of Darkwater's album earlier this year too).
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Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2019, 06:00:27 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 02, 2019, 05:54:56 AM
The dude pays for it, and then sends it as a "gift" via bandcamp (to 5 people). He seems to do this routinely with certain albums. Katt got a copy too (and got a copy of Darkwater's album earlier this year too).

That's pretty cool.
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Post by: The Walrus on August 02, 2019, 06:06:16 AM: Yeah that guy rocks. I think Kade got me interested in Lord (or was it Chad?) in my last roulette so I'm psyched to listen to the album this weekend.
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Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2019, 06:14:12 AM: Quote from: Kattelox on August 02, 2019, 06:06:16 AM
Yeah that guy rocks. I think Kade got me interested in Lord (or was it Chad?) in my last roulette so I'm psyched to listen to the album this weekend.

Technically me since I got Chad into them. ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 02, 2019, 06:44:48 AM: (https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
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Post by: bl5150 on August 06, 2019, 05:30:10 PM: I haven't found the time to read through this but will post before I forget about it.

https://limelightmagazine.com/category/cassette-chronicles/

It's called the Cassette Chronicles and runs through memories of around 100 of the best (mostly) metal and hair metal albums from back in the day. Seems like it would be a decent read.
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Post by: TAC on August 06, 2019, 06:23:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 06, 2019, 05:30:10 PM
I haven't found the time to read through this but will post before I forget about it.

https://limelightmagazine.com/category/cassette-chronicles/

It's called the Cassette Chronicles and runs through memories of around 100 of the best (mostly) metal and hair metal albums from back in the day. Seems like it would be a decent read.

Brent, Just clicked. This website is extremely local to me. Will try and work my way through the site.
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Post by: TAC on August 06, 2019, 06:43:42 PM: Brent, here's another blog you might find interesting. My son's best friend's father is a rocker, and he introduced me to the guy that writes this. It's pretty interesting. I mean, I don't think he knows a lot more than you or I, but to do the research and write it all out is pretty cool. It's done by Bob Mayo, who used to play with Wargasm back in the day.

https://mayobat.wordpress.com/
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Post by: bl5150 on August 06, 2019, 08:36:18 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 06, 2019, 06:43:42 PM
Brent, here's another blog you might find interesting. My son's best friend's father is a rocker, and he introduced me to the guy that writes this. It's pretty interesting. I mean, I don't think he knows a lot more than you or I, but to do the research and write it all out is pretty cool. It's done by Bob Mayo, who used to play with Wargasm back in the day.

https://mayobat.wordpress.com/

Cool - will check it out.

You should catch up and shoot the breeze with Mr Cassette Chronicles - he has a whole page devoted to ticket stubs ;D
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Post by: TAC on August 06, 2019, 08:38:04 PM: Yeah, I'm going to spend time on that site. A lot of those stubs look damn familiar.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 10, 2019, 03:42:39 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 06, 2019, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 06, 2019, 05:30:10 PM
I haven't found the time to read through this but will post before I forget about it.

https://limelightmagazine.com/category/cassette-chronicles/

It's called the Cassette Chronicles and runs through memories of around 100 of the best (mostly) metal and hair metal albums from back in the day. Seems like it would be a decent read.

Brent, Just clicked. This website is extremely local to me. Will try and work my way through the site.

Had a read of the first few pages. The list was a Who’s Who Of my early music collection. I don’t necessarily agree with him his opinions on the songs and there’s a couple of albums I wouldn’t have been seen dead with (Bruce Hornsby, Thompson Twins), but it’s an interesting read.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 11, 2019, 07:31:12 AM: New music from Thoughts Factory's upcoming album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYwngOlf9B0
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 12, 2019, 10:10:49 AM: Not bad at all (the music... the video is so bad it's good):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1fOGac2Xso

PHIL CAMPBELL - These Old Boots Feat. Dee Snider, Mick Mars & Chris Fehn
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Post by: bl5150 on August 12, 2019, 06:54:50 PM: Nice little line-up developing here for March in Melbourne ..........I think they are over doing it on the prices though , even though it's a full day/weekend thing. The costs of getting all these bands in (second tier or not) would be huge but I am just not sure people will pay this sort of $$

Anyway.........if I miraculously find some money , there's some artists worth seeing in there.

https://shoutoutloudevents.ticketbud.com/melodic-rock-fest-melbourne-australia-2020?fbclid=IwAR2j84XA48O6o6ingkr00VSse7ocQEyxuUGR03Aw9c-txchI242bbpRF4jY
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Post by: TAC on August 12, 2019, 06:58:09 PM: Wrong thread Brent. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on August 12, 2019, 07:08:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 12, 2019, 06:58:09 PM
Wrong thread Brent. :lol

I put it here so you wouldn't miss the chance to fly out and see Kip :metal
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Post by: cramx3 on August 12, 2019, 07:12:47 PM: :lol Eclipse, nice :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2019, 08:47:58 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 12, 2019, 06:54:50 PM
Nice little line-up developing here for March in Melbourne ..........I think they are over doing it on the prices though , even though it's a full day/weekend thing. The costs of getting all these bands in (second tier or not) would be huge but I am just not sure people will pay this sort of $$

Anyway.........if I miraculously find some money , there's some artists worth seeing in there.

https://shoutoutloudevents.ticketbud.com/melodic-rock-fest-melbourne-australia-2020?fbclid=IwAR2j84XA48O6o6ingkr00VSse7ocQEyxuUGR03Aw9c-txchI242bbpRF4jY

There's some pretty decent artists here really. Crazy Lixx, Paul Laine, FM, Eclipse, Teramaze, Kip and Tony too. Woulnd't mind going if it were in my area.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 12, 2019, 11:57:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 12, 2019, 08:47:58 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 12, 2019, 06:54:50 PM
Nice little line-up developing here for March in Melbourne ..........I think they are over doing it on the prices though , even though it's a full day/weekend thing. The costs of getting all these bands in (second tier or not) would be huge but I am just not sure people will pay this sort of $$

Anyway.........if I miraculously find some money , there's some artists worth seeing in there.

https://shoutoutloudevents.ticketbud.com/melodic-rock-fest-melbourne-australia-2020?fbclid=IwAR2j84XA48O6o6ingkr00VSse7ocQEyxuUGR03Aw9c-txchI242bbpRF4jY

There's some pretty decent artists here really. Crazy Lixx, Paul Laine, FM, Eclipse, Teramaze, Kip and Tony too. Woulnd't mind going if it were in my area.

Cmon man..........good excuse to travel ;D

Plenty of time to plan - and for Tim to send me his poster of Kip in the shower so I can get it signed.
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Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2019, 05:31:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 12, 2019, 11:57:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 12, 2019, 08:47:58 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 12, 2019, 06:54:50 PM
Nice little line-up developing here for March in Melbourne ..........I think they are over doing it on the prices though , even though it's a full day/weekend thing. The costs of getting all these bands in (second tier or not) would be huge but I am just not sure people will pay this sort of $$

Anyway.........if I miraculously find some money , there's some artists worth seeing in there.

https://shoutoutloudevents.ticketbud.com/melodic-rock-fest-melbourne-australia-2020?fbclid=IwAR2j84XA48O6o6ingkr00VSse7ocQEyxuUGR03Aw9c-txchI242bbpRF4jY

There's some pretty decent artists here really. Crazy Lixx, Paul Laine, FM, Eclipse, Teramaze, Kip and Tony too. Woulnd't mind going if it were in my area.

Cmon man..........good excuse to travel ;D

Plenty of time to plan - and for Tim to send me his poster of Kip in the shower so I can get it signed.

Hmm.....time of year isn't great but isn't horrible either really man. If something comes up down there between May and August I reckon we make it happen.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 13, 2019, 11:08:48 AM: Liking this new Michael Sweet w/Loomis .........they've got close to the the old Stryper guitar tone too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o3nTMCCEok&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2019, 05:15:39 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 13, 2019, 11:08:48 AM
Liking this new Michael Sweet w/Loomis .........they've got close to the the old Stryper guitar tone too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o3nTMCCEok&feature=youtu.be

Yeah not too bad at all. I was disappointed by his last solo album to be honest, so hopefully this one is better. Some cool stuff going on in the solos there too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 15, 2019, 08:24:53 AM: That's an awesome tune and I think better than most of the tracks off the last two Stryper albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 17, 2019, 08:04:55 PM: For fans of Gotthard and Ronnie Romero...........I think I will just forget Gotthard and focus on this band (Coreleoni). The only reason for this band to even exist is becasue Leo Leoni is frustrated that new Gotthard is a half-assed version of the old band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBuVEQLRpy8

Album out in Sept and if this is the single , then I'm hoping for a classic Gotthard sounding disc.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2019, 05:11:10 AM: Never new much of Gotthard. I do remember giving their first album a try. I dug it, but not quite enough to go back to it.

Stealing song names from King Company??
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Post by: max_security on August 18, 2019, 06:42:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 13, 2019, 11:08:48 AM
Liking this new Michael Sweet w/Loomis .........they've got close to the the old Stryper guitar tone too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o3nTMCCEok&feature=youtu.be

Good stuff right there thanks .
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2019, 06:26:24 AM: New King Diamond album next year called The Institute.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2019, 08:32:13 AM: If you want a new King Diamond album and a chocolate cake, you fucking have it
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2019, 04:51:27 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 21, 2019, 08:32:13 AM
If you want a new King Diamond album and a chocolate cake, you fucking have it

:lol Oh don't worry, when I get my hands on this new KD, I'll be enjoying it with the most decadent ice cream and cake I can find.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2019, 05:51:00 PM: :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Ruba on August 21, 2019, 06:08:35 PM: E: ... Diamond Head was what I was thinking of... :facepalm:
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Post by: TAC on August 21, 2019, 06:45:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 21, 2019, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 21, 2019, 08:32:13 AM
If you want a new King Diamond album and a chocolate cake, you fucking have it

:lol Oh don't worry, when I get my hands on this new KD, I'll be enjoying it with the most decadent ice cream and cake I can find.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/80/b8/2880b8d30ae0a6efc3255639262af6b5.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2019, 09:05:14 PM: Fucking brilliant. :metal :hefdaddy
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2019, 09:07:55 PM: Did anyone check out the new Timo Tolkki? It's suprisingly really really good. I'm impressed. It's no Stratovarius, but there is a lot of good melodies and it's not anywhere near as generic as the crap he's been putting out. He's put a lot of thought in this one and good to hear Zac Stevens here, he works well on a couple of these tracks.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2019, 10:38:53 PM: I just checked it out and the only singer I’ve heard of is Zac, but I will definitely listen to some samples
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Post by: Bolsters on August 22, 2019, 03:56:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 21, 2019, 09:07:55 PM
Did anyone check out the new Timo Tolkki? It's suprisingly really really good. I'm impressed. It's no Stratovarius, but there is a lot of good melodies and it's not anywhere near as generic as the crap he's been putting out.
I wasn't even going to bother giving that a listen, but now I guess I have to.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 22, 2019, 04:52:56 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on August 22, 2019, 03:56:29 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 21, 2019, 09:07:55 PM
Did anyone check out the new Timo Tolkki? It's suprisingly really really good. I'm impressed. It's no Stratovarius, but there is a lot of good melodies and it's not anywhere near as generic as the crap he's been putting out.
I wasn't even going to bother giving that a listen, but now I guess I have to.

ditto
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Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2019, 05:47:48 AM: I went in with no expectations obviously which helped. I wanted to hate it, but I can't.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2019, 05:10:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 22, 2019, 05:47:48 AM
I went in with no expectations obviously which helped. I wanted to hate it, but I can't.

First half is really, really good. 2nd half is hit and miss. He did a smart thing by putting the best track right up front.
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Post by: ErHaO on August 23, 2019, 05:39:07 AM: I really dig it, to be honest. It was reviewing well so decided to give it a shot.
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2019, 06:31:56 AM: Hear My Call is possibly the best post Strato song he's written.
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Post by: TAC on August 24, 2019, 07:13:27 PM: So I just ran through the new Hammerfall on Stotify. Now I know for some of you, Hammerfall blows is redundant, but I have always liked them, even though they have faded terribly over the second half of their career.

This new album SUCKS AND BLOWS! Holy shit. WTF?? I'm sitting this one out. Even the promising moments in the second half are killed by the stupid fucking lyrics. Who writes this shit? It's like they borrowed the Sucky Band Name Roulette Wheel from Frontiers and reprogrammed it to the Stupidest Fucking Dumb Ass Metal Lyrics Wheel.

Dammit!
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Post by: TAC on August 24, 2019, 07:19:20 PM: Joacim Cans, leave this fucking band now!! You are way too good to front this shit. And Oskar? WTF? You are NOT Taylor Swift with a mustache. Stop dying your hair. You look like a douche.

I have a hard time deciding if Stefan Elmgren is crying his eyes out or laughing his ass off.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 24, 2019, 07:22:49 PM: Reported to bosky for being negative again :lol

Can't say that I have ever paid a huge amount of attention to Hammerfall - I did have the new one down to listen to but maybe not :lol

Just checked - all I have is Glory To The Brave , Legacy Of Kings and Built To Last.
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Post by: TAC on August 24, 2019, 07:33:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 24, 2019, 07:22:49 PM
Reported to bosky for being negative again :lol

He won't find me in here. :lol

Quote from: bl5150 on August 24, 2019, 07:22:49 PM
Can't say that I have ever paid a huge amount of attention to Hammerfall - I did have the new one down to listen to but maybe not :lol

Just checked - all I have is Glory To The Brave , Legacy Of Kings and Built To Last.

Their first six albums are generally excellent. Legacy Of Kings made my Top 50 when I did that 7 years ago. I's take the 20 best songs from those albums and put them up against almost anybody's.

But they have sucked for a while now, and what I just heard tonight is so disappointing. And it pissed me off. :lol
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Post by: gazinwales on August 24, 2019, 09:36:47 PM: I've always thought that Hammerfall were a very lucky average band to achieve the success they have done.
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Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2019, 04:26:52 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 24, 2019, 07:13:27 PM
So I just ran through the new Hammerfall on Stotify. Now I know for some of you, Hammerfall blows is redundant, but I have always liked them, even though they have faded terribly over the second half of their career.

This new album SUCKS AND BLOWS! Holy shit. WTF?? I'm sitting this one out. Even the promising moments in the second half are killed by the stupid fucking lyrics. Who writes this shit? It's like they borrowed the Sucky Band Name Roulette Wheel from Frontiers and reprogrammed it to the Stupidest Fucking Dumb Ass Metal Lyrics Wheel.

Dammit!

Quote from: TAC on August 24, 2019, 07:19:20 PM
Joacim Cans, leave this fucking band now!! You are way too good to front this shit. And Oskar? WTF? You are NOT Taylor Swift with a mustache. Stop dying your hair. You look like a douche.

I have a hard time deciding if Stefan Elmgren is crying his eyes out or laughing his ass off.

:rollin

I lost interest after Crimson Thunder but while the next 3 were somewhat decent, Infected was a wonderful breath of fresh air. Great album that one, but the next 2 were terrible. Built to Last is their worst, holy shit that was bad. My asshole sounds better than that record. I'll try and have a listen to this one just to see if I can add some entertainment like you have here Tim.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 25, 2019, 02:21:57 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 24, 2019, 07:22:49 PM
Reported to bosky for being negative again :lol

Can't say that I have ever paid a huge amount of attention to Hammerfall - I did have the new one down to listen to but maybe not :lol

Just checked - all I have is Glory To The Brave , Legacy Of Kings and Built To Last.

I’ve got Renegade but found it to be very boring. What I’ve sampled over the years hasn’t been anything better than that. Pretty much everything I hate about power metal in one.
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Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2019, 02:51:39 PM: Hammerfall and the first 3 albums were one of my very first power metal bands. Those 3 are classics IMO.
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Post by: TAC on August 25, 2019, 03:17:03 PM: Renegade's production is a bit soft, but there are a bunch of great tunes on that.

Quote from: gazinwales on August 24, 2019, 09:36:47 PM
I've always thought that Hammerfall were a very lucky average band to achieve the success they have done.

Quote from: wolfking on August 25, 2019, 02:51:39 PM
Hammerfall and the first 3 albums were one of my very first power metal bands. Those 3 are classics IMO.

I remember we were headed on a trip to Disney in the very late 90's. The 90's were a blur for me, musically, so I decided to buy an album by someone new for the trip. I sampled Sym X, Stratovarius, and Hammerfall (Heeding The Call). Heeding The Call reminded me of 80's Helloween. I bought the album and loved it. They were playing the style of music I loved, blending Helloween, Dio, Accept, Saxon, and even Dokken. They really hit the spot for me. Now this was before Saxon and Accept rejuvenated their careers. I feel like after Elmgren left they have gotten so stale.
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Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2019, 03:24:53 PM: Elmgren isn't the best guitarist in the world but he was a massive part of their earlier sound that they lost. I think he was indeed a big loss to the band on a whole. I think Oscar took a lot of the credit for what the band were doing undeservingly. I have nothing to base that on though. He just seems like a phony.
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Post by: TAC on August 25, 2019, 03:43:29 PM: A phony? This guy??

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71SnpAAGSuL._SX425_.jpg)

He looks like he dressed up as Taylor Swift in bondage for Halloween.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 25, 2019, 04:25:21 PM: :rollin

always thought he looked a bit funny

They are opening for Sabaton in November so I'll be seeing them, again. They opened for Delain a few years ago. Actually enjoyed them more than I expected to. I never really liked them much, thought they were just too generic power metal (and well, still do think that) but at least thought they sounded and performed well live. I'll check out their newer stuff as the show gets closer, see what they are playing live.

Hammerfall - Dethrone and Defy Live in NYC 2017 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRu9vdiT0PE)
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Post by: TAC on August 25, 2019, 05:39:09 PM: Joacim sounds great on that video. What a suck song.
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Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2019, 10:45:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 25, 2019, 03:43:29 PM
A phony? This guy??

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71SnpAAGSuL._SX425_.jpg)

He looks like he dressed up as Taylor Swift in bondage for Halloween.

Shit guitarist too.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 27, 2019, 03:15:09 AM: I went to see Geoff Tate last night at a pub in Blackpool. He played half of Rage For Order, a big chunk of Mjndcrime and a few others. I turned around from the bar and came face to face with Geoff and shook his hand. I was too stunned to say anything other than hello 😀.

I can confirm that his voice is in good order but he ducked the big note at the start of Take Hold. It was a great show but I’m suffering this morning. I’m too old to survive the pit these days but I had a good go.

Next gig is Alcatrazz at the same place next month.
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2019, 04:21:08 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 27, 2019, 03:15:09 AM
I went to see Geoff Tate last night at a pub in Blackpool. He played half of Rage For Order, a big chunk of Mjndcrime and a few others. I turned around from the bar and came face to face with Geoff and shook his hand. I was too stunned to say anything other than hello 😀.

I can confirm that his voice is in good order but he ducked the big note at the start of Take Hold. It was a great show but I’m suffering this morning. I’m too old to survive the pit these days but I had a good go.

Next gig is Alcatrazz at the same place next month.

Considering this is one of the greatest metal vocal performances of all time, I would understand him dodging it. I'm guessing he would have skipped the higher one later in the song too? Don't blame him really.
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2019, 05:02:22 AM: Trying to catch up with some newer stuff over the last week.

Lord: Even though I love these guys to bits, I've found their last couple have been real growers, and this is no exception. It seems to take a while to really get to the core of the songs. A lot of melodies don't show themselves until repeated listens. There's a lot of nice variety in this one. Pretty much more of the same, but yeah, I'd say a bit more varied than their last couple. Needs more listens but some rippers on here. Lord Tim is a wonderful shredder, but jeez, Mark is a fucking beast on the axe. What an underrated and original shredder.

Crazy Lixx: Just listened to this one today in the car. More of the same, but I've liked their last couple. Was a bit 'meh' after the first few but I hung in there and the second half had some really tasty 80's AOR melodic rock. I'll listen to this one again.

Arch/Matheos: Not sure if many of you guys are into the Arch stuff, but jeez this sounds good. Wonderful crystal clear production and mixing. Jim's coming up with some great riffs lately and it shows again here. The first album was hard to get the head around as Arch is a strange one and this one is more of the same but it does have a few more melodies that are a bit more catchy than what I found on the first one. Jim does some wonderful leads on here too, his tone is amazing. Frank shreds on the last two songs too which is a great contrast. Will listen again.

Spirits of Fire: Again, only listened to this one once, but this was damn interesting. For the lineup, it's an album you do not expect at all. Sounds like Caffery is the main songwriter but I have no idea, a lot of this stuff sounds like him. The first couple of songs I was ready to turn it off but I think it was the extended instrumental section in the title track that pricked my ears. The melodies from Tim aren't that great but instrumentally, there is some cool shit. Saying that, as the album went on, I got a very original feel from the songs. Some of the extended section are just really cool and unexpected. I'll have to listen again.

Timo Tolkki: Already said what I think, and that it's quite wondeful. I LOVE both the Zak songs and everything in between is really enjoyable. I didn't think Timo had something like this in him. It's not Strato level but it's a very good album.

Eternity's End: Have no idea who they are but listening because of Tim. I literally only just finished a listen to this, and there is a lot of shredding going on here, which is a GOOD thing. All in all just seems like a fucking ripper truthfully. Gonna listen in the car tomorrow at a high volume. I can't even pinpoint what it reminds me of. It sounds like speed inspired power metal but kind of original too. Cool vocals.

EDIT: Actually, hearing Piet on that bonus track, on a whole it does sound like older Iron Savior but more technical.

Still to come (maybe): Teramaze, First Signal, Hardline, Tobny Hitchcock.
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Post by: TAC on August 27, 2019, 05:18:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 27, 2019, 05:02:22 AM
Eternity's End: Have no idea who they are but listening because of Tim. I literally only just finished a listen to this, and there is a lot of shredding going on here, which is a GOOD thing. All in all just seems like a fucking ripper truthfully. Gonna listen in the car tomorrow at a high volume. I can't even pinpoint what it reminds me of. It sounds like speed inspired power metal but kind of original too. Cool vocals.

The singer is Iuri Sanson, who used to sing in Hibria. Hibria's first two albums are amazing. The guy is a beast. The chorus to the title track is :metal vocally.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 27, 2019, 06:21:05 AM: Ian Parry was the vocalist on the first EE album a couple years back. Serviceable, but not wow-worthy. I still have to get to this release.

Prepare to be raging if you listen to First Signal and Toby. Those were both tripe. I enjoyed Hardline though.

I recommend replacing those two with Restless Spirits (s/t) and Diamond Head (The Coffin Train)
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Post by: Evermind on August 27, 2019, 12:12:10 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 27, 2019, 05:02:22 AM
Arch/Matheos: Not sure if many of you guys are into the Arch stuff, but jeez this sounds good. Wonderful crystal clear production and mixing. Jim's coming up with some great riffs lately and it shows again here. The first album was hard to get the head around as Arch is a strange one and this one is more of the same but it does have a few more melodies that are a bit more catchy than what I found on the first one. Jim does some wonderful leads on here too, his tone is amazing. Frank shreds on the last two songs too which is a great contrast. Will listen again.

As I said pretty much everywhere on DTF, this album is the shit. It's actually curious, I liked it so much I searched for some interviews and I found one with John where he says Jim recorded all the leads as demos and planned to have guest guitarists to actually play them and John said "no, no, Jim, I think your leads are amazing, let's keep them on the album" and Jim agreed. And on the other hand, John sang his lines a bit safer for the demos and when they meet up next time and John would add some crazy stuff to the vocals Jim would say "hey, no, John, how about we keep the previous vocal line, I liked it a lot" and so John restrained himself a bit on the album. I'd say both of those things really show throughout the record and possibly are the reason this album is my favourite of the year by far right now.

I think I'm around 30 or 35 spins into Winter Ethereal right now and I still love it. It's been a while since I've been obsessed with an album like that.

Also kinda curious about Tolkki right now I guess. Wasn't going to bother with it, may check it out now I guess.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on August 27, 2019, 03:47:02 PM: That Arch/Matheos record is really good, although as of now I think Sympathetic Resonance is a little bit better. But then Winter Ethereal is still growing on me.
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2019, 05:43:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 27, 2019, 05:18:27 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 27, 2019, 05:02:22 AM
Eternity's End: Have no idea who they are but listening because of Tim. I literally only just finished a listen to this, and there is a lot of shredding going on here, which is a GOOD thing. All in all just seems like a fucking ripper truthfully. Gonna listen in the car tomorrow at a high volume. I can't even pinpoint what it reminds me of. It sounds like speed inspired power metal but kind of original too. Cool vocals.

The singer is Iuri Sanson, who used to sing in Hibria. Hibria's first two albums are amazing. The guy is a beast. The chorus to the title track is :metal vocally.

Don't know them. The name is familiar so not sure if I've been sent any of their songs in my roulettes, but will have to check them out.

Got through a few songs of the EE in the car and it's quite a ripper. Some tasty shred all over this.

Quote from: jingle.boy on August 27, 2019, 06:21:05 AM
Ian Parry was the vocalist on the first EE album a couple years back. Serviceable, but not wow-worthy. I still have to get to this release.

Prepare to be raging if you listen to First Signal and Toby. Those were both tripe. I enjoyed Hardline though.

I recommend replacing those two with Restless Spirits (s/t) and Diamond Head (The Coffin Train)

Yeah mate, saving those til the end. Actually, the Restless Spirits is one I wanted to check but forgot about it. Interesting you and Paul seemed to like the Hardline. What I heard was average but will get onto this one next.
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2019, 05:53:21 PM: Quote from: Evermind on August 27, 2019, 12:12:10 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 27, 2019, 05:02:22 AM
Arch/Matheos: Not sure if many of you guys are into the Arch stuff, but jeez this sounds good. Wonderful crystal clear production and mixing. Jim's coming up with some great riffs lately and it shows again here. The first album was hard to get the head around as Arch is a strange one and this one is more of the same but it does have a few more melodies that are a bit more catchy than what I found on the first one. Jim does some wonderful leads on here too, his tone is amazing. Frank shreds on the last two songs too which is a great contrast. Will listen again.

As I said pretty much everywhere on DTF, this album is the shit. It's actually curious, I liked it so much I searched for some interviews and I found one with John where he says Jim recorded all the leads as demos and planned to have guest guitarists to actually play them and John said "no, no, Jim, I think your leads are amazing, let's keep them on the album" and Jim agreed. And on the other hand, John sang his lines a bit safer for the demos and when they meet up next time and John would add some crazy stuff to the vocals Jim would say "hey, no, John, how about we keep the previous vocal line, I liked it a lot" and so John restrained himself a bit on the album. I'd say both of those things really show throughout the record and possibly are the reason this album is my favourite of the year by far right now.

I think I'm around 30 or 35 spins into Winter Ethereal right now and I still love it. It's been a while since I've been obsessed with an album like that.

Also kinda curious about Tolkki right now I guess. Wasn't going to bother with it, may check it out now I guess.

Yeah, both those things stood out to me instantly and definitely kept my attention. The sound quality also is sublime. It's so good to see Frank still involved too. He's always had some skills, quite underrated. That riff in Wrath of the Universe is enormous.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 28, 2019, 05:14:36 AM: New Vanden Plas live as of about 15 mins ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23BzcW8-zAY&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0W656S0VlBU_FJiJX08fXl47Zv_aVRV32f1o5sXh8gRdq3oeaLPreVifw
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 28, 2019, 05:36:46 AM: Schwing. That was a terrific way to start the morning. If the rest of the album is this good, could very well be an instant contender for AOTY.
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Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2019, 06:01:19 AM: That was undeniably VP but a really excellent song to be honest.

I love how pumped the bass player is while playing the tune.
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Post by: TAC on August 28, 2019, 02:41:17 PM: I think I'll wait for the "Take The Clothes Pin Off My Nose" Vocal Remix version.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 30, 2019, 05:10:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 28, 2019, 02:41:17 PM
I think I'll wait for the "Take The Clothes Pin Off My Nose" Vocal Remix version.

What, the growler version? Don’t think there’ll be one 😀😀😀
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Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2019, 06:06:57 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 30, 2019, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 28, 2019, 02:41:17 PM
I think I'll wait for the "Take The Clothes Pin Off My Nose" Vocal Remix version.

What, the growler version? Don’t think there’ll be one 😀😀😀

Fuck, that'd be cool! :metal
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2019, 06:47:36 PM: I stumbled upon this fantastic YouTube Channel called FresnoMediaRestoration

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPVLqHbydz734aFOZBjAs5Q

It has amazing footage of shows from the mid 70's to early 80's from the Fresno area. There are a ton of audio boots, but some fantastic footage. He just released earlier this week some great video of AC/DC from 1979.
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Post by: TAC on September 03, 2019, 02:04:56 PM: New Derek Smalls!

http://bravewords.com/news/spinal-tap-bassist-derek-smalls-debuts-gimme-some-more-money-music-video
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 03, 2019, 02:37:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 03, 2019, 02:04:56 PM
New Derek Smalls!

http://bravewords.com/news/spinal-tap-bassist-derek-smalls-debuts-gimme-some-more-money-music-video

This is Spinal Tap is my all time favorite comedy and top 3 favorite movies of all time. But I'll just pretend I didn't watch any of these videos lol
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Post by: Ruba on September 14, 2019, 07:59:47 AM: Uriah Heep is playing in my town next month and I'd be interested in going. I'm not familiar with their material outside of Easy Living (a killer tune), so any album/song recommendations would be appreciated.
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Post by: Podaar on September 15, 2019, 05:54:38 AM: Quote from: Ruba on September 14, 2019, 07:59:47 AM
Uriah Heep is playing in my town next month and I'd be interested in going. I'm not familiar with their material outside of Easy Living (a killer tune), so any album/song recommendations would be appreciated.

Well, probably their all time classic is Demons and Wizards (that Easy Livin comes from) so there's that. Magician's Birthday is very similar.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2019, 06:02:05 AM: And among the hard rock heads Abominog (in my experience) seems to be the most popular. They actually did a pub tour out here not so long ago but I didn't manage to catch them. They're pretty low profile out here so was surprised to see them touring.
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Post by: TAC on September 15, 2019, 11:24:34 AM: Ruba, their last half dozen albums are excellent. They feature Bernie Shaw on vocals. They are all quite solid rock to hard rock. Cool Hammond organ sound throughout most of it.

Here is a link to their 2018 album Living The Dream.
https://open.spotify.com/album/7qAAUNhhrA9Bjv6tCw5X3W?si=s6hl07l-RyeRjbm4ELT9RQ
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Post by: Lowdz on September 17, 2019, 12:25:26 PM: I’ve never bothered with them at all. Not sure why, just never crossed paths with them.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 18, 2019, 01:09:15 PM: Just heard from a mate that Tony Mills of Shy has died. Far too young.
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Post by: TAC on September 18, 2019, 01:14:48 PM: Must've had an...

Emergency. ;D :yeahright :|
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Post by: TAC on September 18, 2019, 01:47:07 PM: Really sad. Here's his wife's Facebook post. Was diagnosed with terminal pancreatic cancer in April. Fucking April.

https://www.facebook.com/Tony.Mills.Official/posts/2931368496937434
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Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2019, 02:58:04 PM: Oh shit, that's brutal. RIP.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 18, 2019, 03:42:59 PM: Very sad. Nice guy............I've chatted with him a couple of times over the journey through Facebook. :-[
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Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2019, 08:48:21 PM: Shit, he was only 57 too. That's harsh.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 19, 2019, 04:58:25 AM: Fuck cancer.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 19, 2019, 03:12:20 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 19, 2019, 04:58:25 AM
Fuck cancer.

:tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on September 20, 2019, 03:56:55 AM: New single from Avatarium, looking forward to the rest of the album in November
https://youtu.be/npPd5f0GZQo
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 20, 2019, 10:30:26 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on September 20, 2019, 03:56:55 AM
New single from Avatarium, looking forward to the rest of the album in November
https://youtu.be/npPd5f0GZQo

If memory serves correct they got a spot in my Top 40 of 2017..............will keep an eye on.

IN other news Biff is out of action for some time :-[

https://www.planetrock.com/news/rock-news/saxon-postpone-all-2019-shows-as-biff-byford-needs-immediate-heart-operation/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2019, 02:44:34 AM: Poor Biff. Positive thoughts to him.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 21, 2019, 06:03:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 20, 2019, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on September 20, 2019, 03:56:55 AM
New single from Avatarium, looking forward to the rest of the album in November
https://youtu.be/npPd5f0GZQo

If memory serves correct they got a spot in my Top 40 of 2017..............will keep an eye on.

I knew I'd heard the name somewhere before!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 21, 2019, 08:39:46 AM: I hope Biff makes a full recovery. I can imagine with a surgery like that he won’t be playing for quite some time, maybe even a year or more.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2019, 04:54:04 AM: Now, myself and Tim seem to be pretty in sync with each other for quite some time now, but unfortunately we finally have a bit of a divide. I checked out the new Hammerfall. I wrote this band off as per my comments a page or two back. What they have producing has been underwhelming and their last one was the end for me.

This new one, surprisingly, I think is actually pretty damn good. I still don't like the Sweden song and there isn't a lot of depth here, but all in all I think it's a pretty good slab of metal. There are some good songs here and some cool things going on. Jociam sounds great and the production sounds good too. There was a couple of cool cheesy heavier songs like Testify I think and Dead By Dawn. So yeah, I wanted to hate this, but I don't. Some of the stuff here reminds me of their earlier stuff.
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Post by: TAC on September 22, 2019, 06:17:13 AM: Based on that, I should check it again. But my ears are telling me not to. :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 22, 2019, 07:03:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2019, 04:54:04 AM
Now, myself and Tim seem to be pretty in sync with each other for quite some time now, but unfortunately we finally have a bit of a divide. I checked out the new Hammerfall. I wrote this band off as per my comments a page or two back. What they have producing has been underwhelming and their last one was the end for me.

This new one, surprisingly, I think is actually pretty damn good. I still don't like the Sweden song and there isn't a lot of depth here, but all in all I think it's a pretty good slab of metal. There are some good songs here and some cool things going on. Jociam sounds great and the production sounds good too. There was a couple of cool cheesy heavier songs like Testify I think and Dead By Dawn. So yeah, I wanted to hate this, but I don't. Some of the stuff here reminds me of their earlier stuff.

I am so far behind on checking out new releases it's not funny but I have seen some positive reviews , so was wondering if anyone around here would agree.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 22, 2019, 07:13:27 AM: I thought it was putrid. But I'll give it another spin tonight.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 23, 2019, 07:50:29 AM: Finally getting around to Arch/Matheos and , aside from being a bit indifferent towards his voice (like Lizzy Borden with less melodic sense) , I am really having to go searching for a hook to get me on board. A lot of the lyrics seem to be just "there" and barely related to the music. I know it's had almost universal praise too.

Only a few tracks in but feeling like the Skip button is gonna get a workout :)
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Post by: bl5150 on September 23, 2019, 08:27:11 AM: If you cut a few songs out it's actually a really good album. Here's my abbreviated version:

Kindred Spirits

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2019, 12:17:32 PM: I’ve been well out of the loop on new releases this year. I just haven’t got the drive to seek out the good stuff from the solid.

I checked the Defiants album, which was ok.

The new Sinner album is pretty good, but suffers from too many singers and a couple of less inspired tracks.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 23, 2019, 12:26:27 PM: That Arch/Matheos is not easy to get into and I understand why people don't like it. But for me it's one of the best records this year so far. And I really like Arch's unconventional singing and melodies, it's everything but it isn't generic, and that's a big plus for me.

And that Wrath Of The Universe riff is killer. :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 27, 2019, 01:56:51 PM: Chad, what did you think of the Sinner album?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 27, 2019, 02:44:26 PM: Nothing wrong with it.

Nothing right with it either.

Fairly unremarkable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 28, 2019, 11:00:41 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 27, 2019, 02:44:26 PM
Nothing wrong with it.

Nothing right with it either.

Fairly unremarkable.

I thought it was pretty good, but a bit all over the place stylistically.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 29, 2019, 04:58:27 PM: I don't want to depreciate in the Opeth Thread, but WTF with their new album? I could only make it through the first half. What suckage!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2019, 05:02:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 29, 2019, 04:58:27 PM
I don't want to depreciate in the Opeth Thread, but WTF with their new album? I could only make it through the first half. What suckage!

I've lost interest in them since Heritage. I've tried to like them but I can't. Will try the new album some time but I'm in no rush.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 29, 2019, 05:03:17 PM: Never been an Opeth fan. Nice to know I'm not missing anything.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 29, 2019, 05:11:12 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 29, 2019, 05:03:17 PM
Never been an Opeth fan. Nice to know I'm not missing anything.

Musically they were at least interesting even if the harsh vocals were too much. What this new album is is I have no f'n idea what they were trying to accomplish. They should rename the band Emoth.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2019, 08:11:00 PM: New Tygers..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRBZ9V6tPCU&feature=youtu.be

For what it is I think it's pretty solid .

I will check out the album as the sound is very good but thinking of it as a different band. One original member standing out of site strumming his guitar probably says it all.
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Post by: TAC on September 29, 2019, 08:24:28 PM: I saw this a few days ago Brent. I liked Tygers way back in the day. This song, on its own, is more than solid. I like this guy's voice.

I'll definitely be checking the album out when it's released.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2019, 10:19:36 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 29, 2019, 05:03:17 PM
Never been an Opeth fan. Nice to know I'm not missing anything.

Lol. We already knew that.
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Post by: Big Hath on September 29, 2019, 10:42:45 PM: nice! I thought the last Tygers album was really good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on September 30, 2019, 12:34:05 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2019, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 29, 2019, 04:58:27 PM
I don't want to depreciate in the Opeth Thread, but WTF with their new album? I could only make it through the first half. What suckage!

I've lost interest in them since Heritage. I've tried to like them but I can't. Will try the new album some time but I'm in no rush.

Me too, the new one sounds like the previous dull sounding three releases.
Played it on Spotify, I had to force myself to listen to nearly all of it.
I have no desire to ever hear it again.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2019, 04:53:32 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on September 30, 2019, 12:34:05 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2019, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 29, 2019, 04:58:27 PM
I don't want to depreciate in the Opeth Thread, but WTF with their new album? I could only make it through the first half. What suckage!

I've lost interest in them since Heritage. I've tried to like them but I can't. Will try the new album some time but I'm in no rush.

Me too, the new one sounds like the previous dull sounding three releases.
Played it on Spotify, I had to force myself to listen to nearly all of it.
I have no desire to ever hear it again.

I did sample one of the songs a few weeks back and it was very odd. I think I will have this same reaction but you never know.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 01, 2019, 06:08:32 AM: I went to see Graham Bonnet/Alcatrazz last night, in a music bar in Blackpool. Graham looks like a little old man, not helped by sitting on a stool the whole gig because of his bad back, but that voice is still there for the most part.

I was right in front of Joe Stump. What a player. Had s bit of a chat with him afterwards about his gear (guitar gear before Chad gets excited 😆) Nice bloke. Bass player was tidy too, for an old bird.
Set list was made up of the first Alcatrazz stuff, songs from Assault Attack, Impelliteri and a Blackthorne track, and Night Games. A good night.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 01, 2019, 06:15:59 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 01, 2019, 06:08:32 AM
I went to see Graham Bonnet/Alcatrazz last night, in a music bar in Blackpool. Graham looks like a little old man, not helped by sitting on a stool the whole gig because of his bad back, but that voice is still there for the most part.

I was right in front of Joe Stump. What a player. Had s bit of a chat with him afterwards about his gear (guitar gear before Chad gets excited 😆) Nice bloke. Bass player was tidy too, for an old bird.
Set list was made up of the first Alcatrazz stuff, songs from Assault Attack, Impelliteri and a Blackthorne track, and Night Games. A good night.

I'll bet he's got a hell of a rack!

wait, wut?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 01, 2019, 06:20:27 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 01, 2019, 06:15:59 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 01, 2019, 06:08:32 AM
I went to see Graham Bonnet/Alcatrazz last night, in a music bar in Blackpool. Graham looks like a little old man, not helped by sitting on a stool the whole gig because of his bad back, but that voice is still there for the most part.

I was right in front of Joe Stump. What a player. Had s bit of a chat with him afterwards about his gear (guitar gear before Chad gets excited 😆) Nice bloke. Bass player was tidy too, for an old bird.
Set list was made up of the first Alcatrazz stuff, songs from Assault Attack, Impelliteri and a Blackthorne track, and Night Games. A good night.

I'll bet he's got a hell of a rack!

wait, wut?

😀😀😀

Just pedals actually. He had an Yngwie Malmsteen pedal which certainly worked. He sounded just like him 😱.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 01, 2019, 06:30:34 AM: Funny you mention that - before I read your last post I was about to say that Joe Stump is a player I have sitting in my "Malmsteen wannabe - no melody" box............a bit like Yngwie himself these days :lol

If you were to name one album with Joe Stump on it that you love Paul............what is it?
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Post by: Lowdz on October 01, 2019, 11:17:08 AM: Although I’ve been aware of him and have checked him out before, all I have is the Dark Lord Rises album. He plays like Yngwie, but without the sense of melody early Yngwie had. I’m impressed by anyone that can play sweep arpeggios anyway 😀. He nailed the Yngwie and Impelliteri solos note for note.

I can’t listen to music today because I’m deaf from last night 😳
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Post by: wolfking on October 01, 2019, 03:32:23 PM: I've heard nothing from Joe Stump.
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Post by: wolfking on October 02, 2019, 12:50:33 AM: Jeez, I'm really enjoying this new Hammerfall.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 02, 2019, 06:43:13 AM: Stryper's leader Michael Sweet returns with a formidable album which oozes heaviness and brings along a cast of heavy-hitters. Read everything about it below!

https://www.facebook.com/SonicPerspectives/posts/2733985033278671
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 02, 2019, 12:26:20 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 01, 2019, 03:32:23 PM
I've heard nothing from Joe Stump.

Well let me help you with that.

https://youtu.be/6IcBG9LS-pY
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2019, 05:18:07 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 02, 2019, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 01, 2019, 03:32:23 PM
I've heard nothing from Joe Stump.

Well let me help you with that.

https://youtu.be/6IcBG9LS-pY

Dude has chops, but nothing new in there at all.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 04, 2019, 11:31:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 04, 2019, 05:18:07 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 02, 2019, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 01, 2019, 03:32:23 PM
I've heard nothing from Joe Stump.

Well let me help you with that.

https://youtu.be/6IcBG9LS-pY

Dude has chops, but nothing new in there at all.

Oh no. His whole thing is as an Yngwie clone, but he does it well. I’m impressed by anyone who can play arpeggios 😀
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Post by: Ruba on October 04, 2019, 11:39:37 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 15, 2019, 11:24:34 AM
Ruba, their last half dozen albums are excellent. They feature Bernie Shaw on vocals. They are all quite solid rock to hard rock. Cool Hammond organ sound throughout most of it.

Here is a link to their 2018 album Living The Dream.
https://open.spotify.com/album/7qAAUNhhrA9Bjv6tCw5X3W?si=s6hl07l-RyeRjbm4ELT9RQ

Yep, Living the Dream rocks. :metal It's hard to believe it's almost 50 years from their debut, 'cause they still sound so virile.

I listened to Demons and Wizards too and liked it, although early 70s rock isn't really my thing. Checked a couple of songs from Abominog and it seems very promising. I can already tell they're really underrated.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 05, 2019, 07:03:22 AM: Welp. I'm speechless.

Quote from: Pretty Maids FB Page
We are sorry to announce these bad news

Our brother Ronnie has recently been diagnosed with lung cancer…

This means we will have to cancel all shows announced until the end of January 2020 and we’re all sorry for the inconvenience that might bring.
Right now all plans are on hold, so for the moment we can’t say much more due to the current situation but we will keep you updated.

ALL focus is now on Ronnie's health and undergoing treatment.
We hope for your love and understanding.
/Ken, Rene, Chris and Allan

Ronnies open letter:

STATEMENT

It’s scary how your world can be turned upside down in a couple of weeks.

I went to my doctor for a routine check complaining about some back pains in mid-August.
I then went through numerous scans, bronchoscopy, biopsies etc. and spent a lot of time waiting for answers in uncertainty.
And so finally three weeks ago I found myself diagnosed with lung cancer.

Now this has by all means been a shock to me, my family and those close to me since it came totally unexpected without any typical symptoms and everything just happened and developed so fast lately.

I’m already in treatment and underwent surgery two weeks ago, then spend some 10 days in hospital with pneumonia as a consequence apparently linked to the surgery.

According to the medical staff my prospects are good considering it’s lung cancer. However, I will have to undertake further treatment the next couple of months to be on the safe side.

This means that I unfortunately will have to step back from most musical activities concerts etc. for an indefinite period of time.

I’m going into this with a positive mindset and with the continuing love and support from my family and friends I’m determined to battle this disease the best I can -God willing!

LOVE ❤️
Ronnie Atkins

I hope his path can be as positive and (seemingly successful) as Tony Mac's.

Fuck cancer.
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Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2019, 01:46:43 PM: Oh fuck. Just awful. Fingers crossed for Ronnie.
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Post by: cramx3 on October 05, 2019, 05:48:41 PM: Terrible and sad news

Quote from: jingle.boy on October 05, 2019, 07:03:22 AM
Fuck cancer.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2019, 05:54:12 PM: That blows.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2019, 07:44:53 PM: Just had a listen to the new Michael Schenker fest album. I haven't bought it, didn't even know it was out, but I read a couple of negative reviews on Amazon about it. Expecting the worst, I gave it a spin on Spotify.

The two lead tracks released so far have been absolutely putrid. Shoehorning 4 singers in one song is so clunky and, well, cringey.

No surprise, but the two best tracks are the ones with Doogie White. This combination has worked well. Doogie's tracks were the strongest on the first SchenkerFest album Resurrection.

The Bonnet tracks were ok, and the McAuley tracks were pretty weak. And as much as I love the old albums with Gary Barden, please just retire.

Oddly, classic Schenker vocalist Ronnie Romero somehow gets a song. Why??

Schenker's problem is the same one he's had for so long. He's just not a great songwriter. He's a great guitarist, and his tone and solos sound so great. In fact, the best track is the instrumental Ascension. He needs to be way more selfish in his songwriting.

The two Temple Of Rock albums with Doogie are really good, and renewed my faith, but these cheesy Schenker Fest things are bumming me out.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 06, 2019, 04:30:28 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 05, 2019, 07:44:53 PM
Oddly, classic Schenker vocalist Ronnie Romero somehow gets a song. Why??

Cuz he's fuckin awesome?? That might actually make me want to listen to this.
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Post by: Podaar on October 06, 2019, 05:32:28 AM: Schenker Fest sounds like a Gary Larsen cartoon with a bunch of decrepit old men sitting around bragging about their goiters.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 06, 2019, 09:16:24 PM: Sorry to hear about Ronnie - fingers crossed. Pretty Maids have always been a bit of a favourite of mine.

Another death - Morten Stützer (57 yo) from one of my favourite obscure thrash bands Artillery. And dare I say it another heavy smoker. :-[

Wrote some fine thrash riffs in his time.

R.I.P.

PS and Larry Jungstrom of 38 Special. They just keep coming................I suppose it's not going to get much better.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 08, 2019, 07:06:26 AM: Blast from the past............I wish I was old enough in the mid 80's and lived someplace that bands toured :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqnt_YWl6rY&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3bZpST1a0IgdCaVpY3pWiwFfa9XWzd1eUkfORRtUHccPlB8zQw9zzirLk

I haven't seen this vid before - anyone around here attend the US (Us not U.S.A.) Festival ??

By the way I have one of those shirts that EVH has on. A very politically incorrect design by DLR that has a radio with a hand reaching out of it pulling at a young girl's undies . And I bet nobody was outraged about it :lol

The 80's :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 08, 2019, 07:22:03 AM: I have Triumph's DVD release of their set. Holy fuck that was a scene. Shame it only ran for 2 years.
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2019, 07:25:07 AM: I also have Judas Priest's and Quite Riots' set on DVD, plus a boot of the VH, which is on youtube anyway.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 08, 2019, 07:28:06 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 08, 2019, 07:25:07 AM
I also have Judas Priest's and Quite Riots' set on DVD, plus a boot of the VH, which is on youtube anyway.

Not one of VH's best performances - they were off their face before they even got going.
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2019, 08:43:37 AM: So.....

I am having trouble connecting to Ronnie Romero's voice. I have the first Lords Of Black, and a live Rainbow album with him. I mean, he's excellent and all, but there's something just missing for me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2019, 08:45:34 AM: I was just reading the ticket prices for US Festival. The three day pass was $37.50 and a single day pass was $17.50.

$17.50 to see Van Halen, Triumph, Scorpions, Quiet Riot, Ozzy, Crue and Priest!

I've seen parts of some of these shows and it sounded awesome, especially Priest.
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2019, 08:50:30 AM: That's crazy. No wonder they lost so much money! :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on October 08, 2019, 11:45:19 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 08, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
So.....

I am having trouble connecting to Ronnie Romero's voice. I have the first Lords Of Black, and a live Rainbow album with him. I mean, he's excellent and all, but there's something just missing for me.

Not growlie enough for ya😉.

Might be the accent? I kind of know what you mean and I’m the same with Ripper Owens he’s also at risk of over exposure as he seems to be singing on everything at the moment.
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Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2019, 02:56:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 08, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
So.....

I am having trouble connecting to Ronnie Romero's voice. I have the first Lords Of Black, and a live Rainbow album with him. I mean, he's excellent and all, but there's something just missing for me.

I'm not a Lords of Black fan either but really like him in The Ferrymen. Magnus influence though of course helps.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 08, 2019, 03:02:09 PM: (https://media1.tenor.com/images/7d6035329261fd9e2bf523e85110355f/tenor.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2019, 03:04:07 PM: It wasn't so much Ronnie the problem in Lords of Black, more just the songs in general did nothing for me.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 17, 2019, 12:28:31 AM: Speaking of Ronnies.........................being down here in Oz I'm probably the last person to hear of this mob but this is parenting done right (all siblings)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPfNs_N9nE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvqwBrkJ_jw
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Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2019, 05:09:07 AM: Impressive indeed. The guitarist should have concentrated on the solo in that live one as opposed to trying to show off but good stuff.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 17, 2019, 05:20:34 AM: Not bad at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 17, 2019, 12:37:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 17, 2019, 12:28:31 AM
Speaking of Ronnies.........................being down here in Oz I'm probably the last person to hear of this mob but this is parenting done right (all siblings)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPfNs_N9nE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvqwBrkJ_jw

:metal wow
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Post by: TAC on October 21, 2019, 05:33:59 PM: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/quiet-riot-drummer-reveals-stage-four-cancer-diagnosis/ar-AAJ7qD6?li=BBnbfcL

Damn.
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Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2019, 05:19:50 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 21, 2019, 05:33:59 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/quiet-riot-drummer-reveals-stage-four-cancer-diagnosis/ar-AAJ7qD6?li=BBnbfcL

Damn.

Awful.
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Post by: Samsara on October 22, 2019, 08:29:22 AM: Speaking of Ronnie Romero, I was given an advance of The Ferrymen, the latest project from Frontiers with him. It's really good. It has this retro vibe, but modern all the same. It's weird. Spun it once, I liked it. I need to get Alter Bridge, Ray Alder, and Vanden Plas off rotation, and then I can spend more time with it. But dug it on first listen.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 22, 2019, 09:48:13 AM: Quote from: Samsara on October 22, 2019, 08:29:22 AM
Speaking of Ronnie Romero, I was given an advance of The Ferrymen, the latest project from Frontiers with him. It's really good. It has this retro vibe, but modern all the same. It's weird. Spun it once, I liked it. I need to get Alter Bridge, Ray Alder, and Vanden Plas off rotation, and then I can spend more time with it. But dug it on first listen.

I liked A New Evil better than the s/t debut.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on October 22, 2019, 12:11:57 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 22, 2019, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Samsara on October 22, 2019, 08:29:22 AM
Speaking of Ronnie Romero, I was given an advance of The Ferrymen, the latest project from Frontiers with him. It's really good. It has this retro vibe, but modern all the same. It's weird. Spun it once, I liked it. I need to get Alter Bridge, Ray Alder, and Vanden Plas off rotation, and then I can spend more time with it. But dug it on first listen.

I liked A New Evil better than the s/t debut.

I wasn't even aware they had another record. I thought this was a debut album.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2019, 12:16:34 PM: I enjoyed the new Ferrymen.

Other recent albums I’ve enjoyed are Angel - Risen, and the new Vanden Plas.

Next up, the Michael Sweet.
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Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2019, 02:35:37 PM: I haven't even checked out The Ferrymen yet, or any of the others for that matter.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 24, 2019, 06:39:22 PM: Lead single from the upcoming solo album from the Biffmeister - hopefully he's doing alright post surgery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uas8We_R88&feature=youtu.be

Rhythm in the verse sounds very Ace Frehley - not a bad song for a single.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 25, 2019, 06:36:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 24, 2019, 06:39:22 PM
Lead single from the upcoming solo album from the Biffmeister - hopefully he's doing alright post surgery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uas8We_R88&feature=youtu.be

Rhythm in the verse sounds very Ace Frehley - not a bad song for a single.

Yeah, I like that. Not ready to lose Biff yet.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2019, 06:57:02 AM: Hmmm....I thought that was pretty ordinary to be honest.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 25, 2019, 07:07:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2019, 06:57:02 AM
Hmmm....I thought that was pretty ordinary to be honest.

Certainly nothing special, but I still liked it 😀
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 25, 2019, 03:27:06 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2019, 06:57:02 AM
Hmmm....I thought that was pretty ordinary to be honest.

I agree
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2019, 03:29:05 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 25, 2019, 03:27:06 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2019, 06:57:02 AM
Hmmm....I thought that was pretty ordinary to be honest.

I agree

If it's all like this song, I'll just wait for the next Saxon.
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Post by: TAC on October 25, 2019, 05:08:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2019, 06:57:02 AM
Hmmm....I thought that was pretty ordinary to be honest.

After an amazing run of about 8 albums, I thought the last Saxon was pretty ordinary.

And this:

http://bravewords.com/news/former-black-sabbath-singer-tony-martin-in-the-studio-with-headless-cross

Still with Magnus Rosen
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2019, 06:41:27 PM: Nice, I'll look forward to that one. It's a shame that the project Tony was going to do with Andy LaRocque never took off.
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Post by: TAC on October 25, 2019, 07:08:29 PM: Well, out of nowhere King Diamond decided to get active again. I wonder if he was worried about losing Andy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 25, 2019, 08:48:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2019, 05:08:33 PM

~~Afteer an amazing run of about 8 albums,~~ I thought ~~the last~~ Saxon was pretty ordinary.

Fix'd. :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on October 25, 2019, 08:59:25 PM: (https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScratchyLegitimateGoat-size_restricted.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2019, 04:16:31 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2019, 07:08:29 PM
Well, out of nowhere King Diamond decided to get active again. I wonder if he was worried about losing Andy.

Andy seems the pretty quiet humble type. Not very prolific so I don't think there would have ever been any risk that Andy wouldn’t work with Kim as soon as he wanted to go again.

Interesting Andy never looked for a big gig over the time KD wasn't active. Seems happy with his producing. Shame in a sense as his playing is unreal and pretty recognizable. Death, Illwill, XWorld-5, everything he was in was very shortlived that wasn't KD.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2019, 04:30:39 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2019, 08:59:25 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScratchyLegitimateGoat-size_restricted.gif)

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Post by: bl5150 on October 30, 2019, 05:36:23 AM: If you can get past the shite album cover .............this sounds like it could be alright. Dino Jelusic (vocal powerhouse from TSO/Animal Drive) with George Lynch.

Due January but a short sample here

https://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Shirley/dp/B07YNDLKLH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=dirty+shirley&qid=1572435235&s=dmusic&sr=1-1
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Post by: Samsara on October 30, 2019, 08:14:54 AM: That kid Dino can wail.
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Post by: TAC on October 30, 2019, 02:10:44 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 30, 2019, 05:36:23 AM
If you can get past the shite album cover .............this sounds like it could be alright. Dino Jelusic (vocal powerhouse from TSO/Animal Drive) with George Lynch.

Due January but a short sample here

https://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Shirley/dp/B07YNDLKLH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=dirty+shirley&qid=1572435235&s=dmusic&sr=1-1

The album cover is the only thing this band has going for it.

Bravewords had the first single streaming, and it is boring as hell.

Quote from: Samsara on October 30, 2019, 08:14:54 AM
That kid Dino can wail.

Yeah, he can.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2019, 08:22:50 PM: A live version of something you Whitesnake fans can look forward to on an upcoming covers album from one of the greats.

https://youtu.be/6_jrGBsXAQ0?t=158
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 01, 2019, 01:25:07 AM: I don't know if I should laugh or cry. :omg:
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 01, 2019, 05:03:46 AM: :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2019, 08:33:06 AM: Come back William Shatner and save us from this shit 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2019, 01:13:44 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2019, 08:22:50 PM
A live version of something you Whitesnake fans can look forward to on an upcoming covers album from one of the greats.

https://youtu.be/6_jrGBsXAQ0?t=158

WTF? :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2019, 03:18:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2019, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 30, 2019, 05:36:23 AM
If you can get past the shite album cover .............this sounds like it could be alright. Dino Jelusic (vocal powerhouse from TSO/Animal Drive) with George Lynch.

Due January but a short sample here

https://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Shirley/dp/B07YNDLKLH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=dirty+shirley&qid=1572435235&s=dmusic&sr=1-1

The album cover is the only thing this band has going for it.

Bravewords had the first single streaming, and it is boring as hell.

This one?

https://youtu.be/-8hSpK4oK2Q

I liked the samples, and yes, this track isn’t going to change the world. Solid though, I thought. And the singer is very good, very DIO.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2019, 08:41:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 01, 2019, 01:13:44 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2019, 08:22:50 PM
A live version of something you Whitesnake fans can look forward to on an upcoming covers album from one of the greats.

https://youtu.be/6_jrGBsXAQ0?t=158

WTF? :lol

Hopefully the Lord ignores him and takes away his strength to carry on singing .
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Post by: ozzy554 on November 04, 2019, 02:47:02 PM: R.I.P Timi Hansen

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/mercyful-fate-bassist-timi-hansen-dies-after-battle-with-cancer/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/mercyful-fate-bassist-timi-hansen-dies-after-battle-with-cancer/)
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Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2019, 02:53:29 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on November 04, 2019, 02:47:02 PM
R.I.P Timi Hansen

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/mercyful-fate-bassist-timi-hansen-dies-after-battle-with-cancer/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/mercyful-fate-bassist-timi-hansen-dies-after-battle-with-cancer/)

Fuck! :'(

He was a monster on those early KD/MF albums. Only 61.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on November 04, 2019, 03:08:16 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 01, 2019, 01:13:44 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2019, 08:22:50 PM
A live version of something you Whitesnake fans can look forward to on an upcoming covers album from one of the greats.

https://youtu.be/6_jrGBsXAQ0?t=158

WTF? :lol

Don't Hassle the Hoff, as t-shirts have read. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2019, 06:08:43 PM: Sorry Hoff :lol

Looks like KK Downing's band went over very well the other night - Downing, Ellefson, Binks and Ripper....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr6hAbDLaKc
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 04, 2019, 07:24:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 04, 2019, 06:08:43 PM
Sorry Hoff :lol

Looks like KK Downing's band went over very well the other night - Downing, Ellefson, Binks and Ripper....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr6hAbDLaKc

This would have been a cool show, Blaze opened up for them. If Priest gets into the rock and roll hall of fame, I know KK will be included. But will Ripper and Binks be inducted with the band too?
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Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2019, 07:33:27 PM: I can't see Binks or Ripper being involved with any award. Ripper didn't appear on any of the classic albums and Binks has himself admitted that he was considered to be a "session guy" in Priest. Perhaps being in Unleashed gets him some bonus points but I doubt it.

The more interesting one would be how they treat the subject of Dave Holland.
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Post by: TAC on November 04, 2019, 07:36:44 PM: Pretty sure Rolling Stone won't have a problem with him. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 05, 2019, 11:25:14 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 04, 2019, 07:33:27 PM
I can't see Binks or Ripper being involved with any award. Ripper didn't appear on any of the classic albums and Binks has himself admitted that he was considered to be a "session guy" in Priest. Perhaps being in Unleashed gets him some bonus points but I doubt it.

The more interesting one would be how they treat the subject of Dave Holland.

At least he’s dead so won’t be too embarrassing
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2019, 03:12:42 PM: Probably won't even get a mention.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 02:37:33 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2019, 03:12:42 PM
Probably won't even get a mention.

Nor should he. I can’t even say his drumming was anything special.
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 03:37:56 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 02:37:33 AM
Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2019, 03:12:42 PM
Probably won't even get a mention.

Nor should he. I can’t even say his drumming was anything special.

It wasn't it was shit.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 10:25:11 AM: Ok, so I’ve had Tony Macalpine’s Master Of Paradise album for 20 years and I can’t ever have played it because I didn’t know it was a mostly vocal song album and T Mac is singing - and doing it very well. How did I not know this?
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 01:48:53 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 10:25:11 AM
Ok, so I’ve had Tony Macalpine’s Master Of Paradise album for 20 years and I can’t ever have played it because I didn’t know it was a mostly vocal song album and T Mac is singing - and doing it very well. How did I not know this?

My copy is fucked with the low volume thing.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 01:59:07 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 10:25:11 AM
Ok, so I’ve had Tony Macalpine’s Master Of Paradise album for 20 years and I can’t ever have played it because I didn’t know it was a mostly vocal song album and T Mac is singing - and doing it very well. How did I not know this?

My copy is fucked with the low volume thing.

Mine is probably the same. As I say, I don’t think I e ever played it before. I was listening on Spotify through the iPad speaker so sound quality wasn’t top of the list.
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Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 02:24:02 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 10:25:11 AM
Ok, so I’ve had Tony Macalpine’s Master Of Paradise album for 20 years and I can’t ever have played it because I didn’t know it was a mostly vocal song album and T Mac is singing - and doing it very well. How did I not know this?

My copy is fucked with the low volume thing.

Mine is probably the same. As I say, I don’t think I e ever played it before. I was listening on Spotify through the iPad speaker so sound quality wasn’t top of the list.

You would know. The volume is low, like fucking low you can't hear it. It's an early pressing issue. I had to rip the cd and then use a program to up the volume and resave. It still sounded crap so I never really bothered with it. He does have a nice voice though.

i really quite enjoy the Eyes of the World album he did. Some nice songs on that one.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 04:12:47 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 02:24:02 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 10:25:11 AM
Ok, so I’ve had Tony Macalpine’s Master Of Paradise album for 20 years and I can’t ever have played it because I didn’t know it was a mostly vocal song album and T Mac is singing - and doing it very well. How did I not know this?

My copy is fucked with the low volume thing.

Mine is probably the same. As I say, I don’t think I e ever played it before. I was listening on Spotify through the iPad speaker so sound quality wasn’t top of the list.

You would know. The volume is low, like fucking low you can't hear it. It's an early pressing issue. I had to rip the cd and then use a program to up the volume and resave. It still sounded crap so I never really bothered with it. He does have a nice voice though.

i really quite enjoy the Eyes of the World album he did. Some nice songs on that one.

I wonder why he didn’t sing on that one? I have that one and it’s ok. Never really loved it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 04:34:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 02:24:02 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 06, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 06, 2019, 10:25:11 AM
Ok, so I’ve had Tony Macalpine’s Master Of Paradise album for 20 years and I can’t ever have played it because I didn’t know it was a mostly vocal song album and T Mac is singing - and doing it very well. How did I not know this?

My copy is fucked with the low volume thing.

Mine is probably the same. As I say, I don’t think I e ever played it before. I was listening on Spotify through the iPad speaker so sound quality wasn’t top of the list.

You would know. The volume is low, like fucking low you can't hear it. It's an early pressing issue. I had to rip the cd and then use a program to up the volume and resave. It still sounded crap so I never really bothered with it. He does have a nice voice though.

i really quite enjoy the Eyes of the World album he did. Some nice songs on that one.

I wonder why he didn’t sing on that one? I have that one and it’s ok. Never really loved it.

It's nothing special, some nice 80's style on a few tracks. Yeah, maybe he wasn't the greatest singer back then and worked more on it leading into MOP.

I've unfortunately found his last few albums a bit average. The songs lack melody and everything kind of sounds the same.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2019, 06:39:04 AM: I’d agree with that. They’ve been trying too hard to be metal.id be happy for him to go the vocal, prog metal route again based on MOP.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2019, 06:41:55 AM: I’ve just bought the live TNT Blu-ray from Milano. Very good performance. A bit short at 16 songs but a good watch. Harnell is on fire.
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2019, 05:12:13 AM: Had a listen to the Vanden Plas. VP are never band to judge on a single listen but it's pretty mucg VP by the numbers. They really are sticking to a formula now. The last 2 songs were very good though. Needs more listens.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2019, 05:18:42 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 08, 2019, 05:12:13 AM
Had a listen to the Vanden Plas. VP are never band to judge on a single listen but it's pretty mucg VP by the numbers. They really are sticking to a formula now. The last 2 songs were very good though. Needs more listens.

Totally... but it's a formula that I'm still digging.
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2019, 05:34:14 AM: Both new songs from King and Ozzy are quite impressive. The KD reminds me if Voodoo/Graveyard era. Pumped for the full thing.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2019, 05:55:14 AM: Cool little article for those wanting a bit of the inside story on Crimson Glory. Transcendence made my Top 50 - big band for me.

https://crystal-logic.blogspot.com/2018/11/crimson-glory-beyond-electric-sky-story.html?fbclid=IwAR0pzxuJK95Mr2IOSYBox9ELjov0JXjhAYXQ3NjLwRavnEw2vGj83a-44hw
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Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2019, 06:29:27 AM: Geez the new Pretty Maids is a tough listen. I thought Alter Bridge was muddy. :-\
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 09, 2019, 07:31:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 09, 2019, 06:29:27 AM
Geez the new Pretty Maids is a tough listen. I thought Alter Bridge was muddy. :-\

Damn... I have it cued up ready to go this morning.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2019, 07:46:14 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 09, 2019, 07:31:29 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 09, 2019, 06:29:27 AM
Geez the new Pretty Maids is a tough listen. I thought Alter Bridge was muddy. :-\

Damn... I have it cued up ready to go this morning.

It may not bug you as much............I was more referring to the production than the songs , but I also found the songs a bit "by the numbers" too. They've really settled down into a formula and if you liked the last couple of albums I imagine you might like it.

I can sometimes get past the production when the songs are really good (a couple on the Alter Bridge won me over) but when the production sounds like ass and the song doesn't grab me the Skip button comes in to play much quicker than usual.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 09, 2019, 09:38:58 AM: I very much liked Motherland and Kingmaker. Got sidetracked, so I likely won't get to this until tomorrow now.
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2019, 03:57:48 AM: I had a listen to half of the Michael Sweet. I think he wrote this album just after he visited the All Time Most Generic Heavy Metal Riffs museum.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2019, 11:50:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2019, 03:57:48 AM
I had a listen to half of the Michael Sweet. I think he wrote this album just after he visited the All Time Most Generic Heavy Metal Riffs museum.

Hmm........seems to have had very positive reviews for the most part. I haven't got to it yet.

This popped up on Youtube today - Fates Warning being interviewed in 1989 and Jim has a brand new WDADU sleeveless on. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDfTXU6aQQk&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3NrBaqsCghWFRYCNhRyvsz5vF43qRysO2QeST6QRHNdpwvFoEHuA4K_20
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Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2019, 11:55:47 PM: I got six songs in I think. Sounded fine but no creativity. Interested in what you think Brent.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 11, 2019, 01:49:15 PM: I'm liking what I've heard from the new Michael Sweet, sounds like a continuation of the last three Stryper albums. The song with Todd LaTorre is awesome.
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Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2019, 02:02:51 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 11, 2019, 01:49:15 PM
I'm liking what I've heard from the new Michael Sweet, sounds like a continuation of the last three Stryper albums. The song with Todd LaTorre is awesome.

Maybe I will go through and listen to the whole thing first.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 09:52:45 AM: Just discovered the Rockpalast YouTube channel. Loads of live shows from their festivals. Currently enjoying Fifth Angel. Loads to dig into here.

https://youtu.be/i1_zkXxIrsU
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 13, 2019, 11:03:47 AM: Sorry for your loss Paul
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Post by: cramx3 on November 13, 2019, 11:06:54 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 09:52:45 AM
Just discovered the Rockpalast YouTube channel. Loads of live shows from their festivals. Currently enjoying Fifth Angel. Loads to dig into here.

https://youtu.be/i1_zkXxIrsU

This is a solid channel it seems, good concert footage. Not just rock either, lots of reggae. I just put on The Skints show from this channel. Good quality and well done.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 03:51:27 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2019, 11:03:47 AM
Sorry for your loss Paul

Thanks Jason. It’s been a tough few months to be honest.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2019, 04:06:59 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2019, 11:03:47 AM
Sorry for your loss Paul

Thanks Jason. It’s been a tough few months to be honest.

Huh? What did I miss?
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Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 04:56:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2019, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2019, 11:03:47 AM
Sorry for your loss Paul

Thanks Jason. It’s been a tough few months to be honest.

Huh? What did I miss?

My dad has been ill for much of this year and he died 10 days ago. It was the funeral today.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2019, 04:57:44 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2019, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2019, 11:03:47 AM
Sorry for your loss Paul

Thanks Jason. It’s been a tough few months to be honest.

Huh? What did I miss?

My dad has been ill for much of this year and he died 10 days ago. It was the funeral today.

Oh, Dammit, man. I didn't know. I'm so sorry to hear that. Damn, man.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 13, 2019, 04:58:29 PM: So sorry for your loss Lowdz
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2019, 05:32:21 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2019, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 13, 2019, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2019, 11:03:47 AM
Sorry for your loss Paul

Thanks Jason. It’s been a tough few months to be honest.

Huh? What did I miss?

My dad has been ill for much of this year and he died 10 days ago. It was the funeral today.

Oh shit, I missed that too Paul. so sorry and thoughts and prayers to you and your family.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 13, 2019, 11:39:20 PM: Sorry for your loss and all my condolences.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2019, 11:55:43 PM: Sorry to hear that Paul - thinking of you.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2019, 01:54:07 PM: Thanks guys. ❤️
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2019, 09:11:16 AM: My Slayer-The Repentless Killogy CD has been delivered!! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2019, 02:11:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 15, 2019, 09:11:16 AM
My Slayer-The Repentless Killogy CD has been delivered!! :metal

If it's any good I may pick it up.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2019, 02:33:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 15, 2019, 09:11:16 AM
My Slayer-The Repentless Killogy CD has been delivered!! :metal

Your journey to the dark side is now complete 😄
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2019, 02:36:23 PM: Nah, I've been a Slayer fan since the 80's.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2019, 03:28:20 PM: haha- Motley Crue have torn up their "legally binding" contract with the fans who attended their last shows and are doing a tour with Leppard and Poison.

Bakers all around the world are rejoicing that Vince Neil is back on tour.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2019, 03:30:24 PM: Well, my legally binding contract for not seeing Def Leppard is still in tact.
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2019, 03:34:33 PM: My legally binding contract of not giving a fucking shit about all three bands still stands.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2019, 03:35:43 PM: Def Leppard were pretty damn good the last time I saw them a year or so ago - obviously you have to be able to tolerate Hysteria but they are pulling out songs like Diehard The Hunter , Mirror Mirror etc.........compared to other acts of similar vintage (Bon Jovi , Whitesnake etc..) the show that they put on is about the best going. Great sound , lighting too. Joe has a damn tough gig with his vocals and needs to falsetto a lot , but again - relative to his competition he is doing a great job.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 18, 2019, 03:36:39 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 18, 2019, 03:30:24 PM
Well, my legally binding contract for not seeing Def Leppard is still in tact.

Should rip that up immediately

And these farewells are such a joke. I've often thought of the Motley Crue local show on their farewell tour being one of my biggest concert regrets of choosing not to go. I've always enjoyed their music but heard so much bad stuff about their live show to not want to go back then and it seemed like that was my one and only chance. I guess not. I think I'll go to this show, mostly for Def Leppard who I love, but Poison is pretty fun live too and then I'll just watch the shit show that is Motley Crue. Def Leppard should be headlining though IMO.
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2019, 03:40:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 18, 2019, 03:35:43 PM
Def Leppard were pretty damn good the last time I saw them a year or so ago - obviously you have to be able to tolerate Hysteria but they are pulling out songs like Diehard The Hunter , Mirror Mirror etc.........compared to other acts of similar vintage (Bon Jovi , Whitesnake etc..) the show that they put on is about the best going. Great sound , lighting too. Joe has a damn tough gig with his vocals and needs to falsetto a lot , but again - relative to his competition he is doing a great job.

Yeah, I'm being a bit extreme. I did listen to Pyromania I think it was a couple of times when you guys recommended it a while back and it's a pretty good 80's hard rock album.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2019, 04:17:36 PM: If that gig swings around here, I just might go. I'm interested in seeing Motley Dylan.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2019, 05:52:43 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 18, 2019, 03:35:43 PM
Def Leppard were pretty damn good the last time I saw them a year or so ago - obviously you have to be able to tolerate Hysteria but they are pulling out songs like Diehard The Hunter , Mirror Mirror etc.........compared to other acts of similar vintage (Bon Jovi , Whitesnake etc..) the show that they put on is about the best going. Great sound , lighting too. Joe has a damn tough gig with his vocals and needs to falsetto a lot , but again - relative to his competition he is doing a great job.

So a couple things. I really only have a few "concert nights out" per year as a married father. Sometimes I'll say, "boy that would be great if I was single, I'd definitely go." But that wouldn't even apply here.

Why would I care if a 60 year old Def Leppard pull out a deep track from High n Dry? How about not making fucking suck album after suck album since 1987? I could not see any circumstance that I would pay money to see Def Leppard. If you don't believe in the old tracks like that, then don't pull it out in the hopes to get a guy like me to pay you money. If you really believe in Mirror Mirror, then make a fucking album that convinces me that you are a hard rock band, and not the hair rock's version of NSYNC. Fuck Def Leppard. Seriously. Fuck them.

And speaking of similar vintage? Fuck Bon Jovi and Whitesnake too. Especially Whitesnake. I don't care about Bon Jovi. But at least he still has respectable (not that I'd listen) albums that still crank out a hit or two. But Whitesnake has been a fucking joke since the late 80's too.

I'm getting pissed off just thinking about it. :lol Not at you Brent. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2019, 06:24:14 PM: I can tolerate what you said up til the bit about Bon Jovi still having respectable albums.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/NJkIw5wfnM3e0/200w.webp?cid=790b7611b58292ad8116438c50209a540b5c6070bbbca889&rid=200w.webp)

They are the worst of the bunch by a fucking mile ! :lol

Def Leppard actually base their whole show now on High n Dry through Adrenalize + Retroactive so about half of it is pretty damn good :) I haven't liked anything much they've done since Pyro , although their last album got good reviews from old fans. I didn't like it. I'm not down on Hysteria as much as many here ,but do prefer the earlier material.

Whitensnake.........yeah a bit of a parody of themselves now and their recent output is patchy. As far as songwriting goes the bluesy rock albums they did with Aldrich (like Forevermore) weren't great in my opinion but on a songwriting level I'd say they're better than anything Leppard or Bon Jovi have done in ages.

Bon Jovi are just a fucking joke on all levels . Now you've pissed me off thinking about how fucking shit Bon Jovi are :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2019, 06:26:44 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 18, 2019, 06:24:14 PM
Now you've pissed me off thinking about how fucking shit Bon Jovi are :lol

:lol

Good, now we'll be pissed off together! :lol :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2019, 06:43:28 PM: I was already pissed off today before reading that anyway so yeah, fuck Bon Jovi. Fucking sell out motherfucker. Just never liked him or anything he really did. Don't rate Sambora either.

Fuck Coverdale too I guess. I saw them a few years back and was disappointed. Mother fucker hardly sings. Reb Beach should get Coverdale's paycheck. At least they had 1987 and Sykes.

Fuck Def Leppard just for Pour Some Sugar on Me. Fuck that song to hell.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2019, 07:27:37 PM: (https://i.postimg.cc/25Ssd6tY/femall.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2019, 07:31:11 PM: (https://media.tenor.com/images/8ca283cad1e342cd4b3d7dd512503ea4/tenor.gif)
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Post by: cramx3 on November 19, 2019, 02:01:06 PM: You guys are crazy, having seen Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, and Def Leppard all within the last year or two.... all were awesome live shows. They all have their vocal issues with age, but the bands are solid and the music is still good even if it's all from the 80s. Not being able to go because of other things (being a married father) is legit, but not allowing yourself to have an awesome night out seems a bit like a punishment on yourself. I'll also add that BJ latest albums are definitely worse than DL or WS's latest.
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2019, 02:14:45 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on November 19, 2019, 02:01:06 PM
You guys are crazy, having seen Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, and Def Leppard all within the last year or two.... all were awesome live shows. They all have their vocal issues with age, but the bands are solid and the music is still good even if it's all from the 80s. Not being able to go because of other things (being a married father) is legit, but not allowing yourself to have an awesome night out seems a bit like a punishment on yourself. I'll also add that BJ latest albums are definitely worse than DL or WS's latest.

Cram, what I love about you is that you're a real happy go lucky kind of dude. You could pretty much go see anything and find some enjoyment in it. There's nothing better than seeing a live band, so I get it.

A few years ago, Def Leppard were playing minor league baseball stadiums and they played less than 10 miles from me, and I couldn't have given less of a shit. I'm just past them at this point in my life. Sure, any band can put on a good live show, but I judge a band and their intentions by what kind of music are they making, not the fact that they are playing 35 year old songs. Making going-through-the-motions albums ain't going to cut it for me. And I'm not rewarding that with giving them any of my money. I'd rather buy a 6 pack and put on High n Dry, or watch a youtube boot from the Pyromania tour.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2019, 02:16:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 19, 2019, 02:14:45 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on November 19, 2019, 02:01:06 PM
You guys are crazy, having seen Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, and Def Leppard all within the last year or two.... all were awesome live shows. They all have their vocal issues with age, but the bands are solid and the music is still good even if it's all from the 80s. Not being able to go because of other things (being a married father) is legit, but not allowing yourself to have an awesome night out seems a bit like a punishment on yourself. I'll also add that BJ latest albums are definitely worse than DL or WS's latest.

:getoffmylawn:

fix'd.
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2019, 02:19:55 PM: :lol

Yeah, pretty much.

I just don't have unlimited nights out and recreational dollars, and I sure ain't wasting either on Def Leppard. Or Whitesnake. Or Bon Jovi.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 19, 2019, 02:35:43 PM: That's fair, but also just because they don't perform the new music as much doesn't mean they don't want to. I feel like these bands very much do want to play the new music, they just have these huge fan bases that don't want them to. I've never seen so many people leave the concert viewing area to the bathrooms/vendors as I did in 2003 when I first saw Def Leppard and they played some of their new music. It was like a mass exodus that clearly the band sees too (and since then, they've hardly played new songs and just play the same hits).

Personally, i would have loved to see DL at their Vegas residency, it seems like the only time they really played deep cuts and I believe they do like to and do want to do those songs, they just can't do that and continue to play arenas and stadiums because they'll lose all those older fans.
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2019, 02:39:52 PM: A conundrum to be sure.

But their new music blows, and that's my main argument.

I loved when they played those deep early cuts in Vegas. I downloaded them from all of the boots as they came up on Dime. I think I got them all. I have the live album saved on Spotify and I love those old songs.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 19, 2019, 02:42:26 PM: The blu-ray is awesome, it has two of those opening sets plus the main set.

I didn't get DF's latest album, but the singles were fine. Better than what they performed in 2003 that shooed the crowd away.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2019, 03:01:01 PM: Who is DF? Ded Flatbird? :)
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Post by: cramx3 on November 19, 2019, 03:10:27 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 19, 2019, 03:01:01 PM
Who is DF? Ded Flatbird? :)

:lol yea that works too
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 19, 2019, 05:01:57 PM: It’s a bit of a slap in the face to fans that paid money to see the “farewell” shows from Motley Crue. But you had to figure there was a high likelihood that they would be back. These farewell tours for the most part are just a gimmick. The chance of a band staying retired is the same chance as a pro wrestler staying retired after they lose a retirement match lol. Money talks and I understand that.

As much as I would have liked to see Rush play one or two farewell shows (say Rogers Centre in Toronto), I think they may have made the right choice by just saying they are done and ending it without the possible charades.

Eddie Trunk was saying he can only think of one band that did a farewell show/tour and have stuck with it up to this point and that is Twisted Sister. I’m sure there are others but I can’t think of one.
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Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2019, 08:50:34 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on November 19, 2019, 02:01:06 PM
You guys are crazy, having seen Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, and Def Leppard all within the last year or two.... all were awesome live shows. They all have their vocal issues with age, but the bands are solid and the music is still good even if it's all from the 80s. Not being able to go because of other things (being a married father) is legit, but not allowing yourself to have an awesome night out seems a bit like a punishment on yourself. I'll also add that BJ latest albums are definitely worse than DL or WS's latest.

Party pooper.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 20, 2019, 05:02:03 AM: I’d rather see DL playing 35 year old songs than anything they’ve written this century. I would go see them if they were playing nearby, as long as they left the boyband shit at home.

I wouldn’t go to see the Crue because Vince is atrocious. Whitesnake too. David’s voice isn’t there anymore. I saw them all when they were awesome and I’d rather remember them like that.

I saw KISS a few months ago and it was a great show, all things considered. Nowhere near as good as the reunion tour though. I wasn’t expecting much but I just needed to say goodbye to the group that started it all for me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2019, 09:06:22 PM: And for those that were complaining about what Def Leppard and Whitesnake have sounded like for the last 20 plus years, does it now make sense why I pretty much only listen to albums from the 70’s and 80’s! You listen to the best and you end it there lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2019, 10:15:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 20, 2019, 09:06:22 PM
And for those that were complaining about what Def Leppard and Whitesnake have sounded like for the last 20 plus years, does it now make sense why I pretty much only listen to albums from the 70’s and 80’s! You listen to the best and you end it there lol

Haha. :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2019, 04:54:51 AM: Jay would be proud of Ben tonight. He went to a trivia night and there was a music section and they were asking all about Beyonce , Adele etc.......and Ben yells out " Where's the stuff on the 80's mate?" :metal
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Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2019, 05:14:59 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 21, 2019, 04:54:51 AM
Jay would be proud of Ben tonight. He went to a trivia night and there was a music section and they were asking all about Beyonce , Adele etc.......and Ben yells out " Where's the stuff on the 80's mate?" :metal

haha, nice. They would have been so fucking confused seeing Ben yell that out.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2019, 05:34:18 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 21, 2019, 04:54:51 AM
Jay would be proud of Ben tonight. He went to a trivia night and there was a music section and they were asking all about Beyonce , Adele etc.......and Ben yells out " Where's the stuff on the 80's mate?" :metal

Parenting done right.
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Post by: Grappler on November 21, 2019, 07:38:50 AM: Get ready to open your wallets if you want to see the Crue/Leppard/Poison tour:

https://krna.com/the-motley-crue-tour-is-way-too-expensive-for-iowa/?fbclid=IwAR3YSq379W-SQ8Qa38jOmerKHs4fSuK3wqzKVbVBJrk9UG0bnVKH15CFKRY

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By now you've heard the news that Motley Crue is making a comeback. The band is planning a summer tour with Def Leppard and Poison. So, why shouldn't this awesome tour make a stop in Iowa?

The Great Jones County Fair would be the only promoters capable of putting on something this big. They have been known to pay a top country act over a million dollars for a performance. But this show is bigger....much bigger.

An industry friend of mine told be he was offered the show. The numbers breakout like this according to his inquiry:

Motley Crue: $2 Million

Def Leppard $1 Million

Poison: $250,000

That's a total of $3 million, $250 thousand dollars! Let's say the average ticket price is $70. That means you would need to sell 46,000 tickets just to break even. The last time I checked, there wasn't that much room at the fairgrounds.

I'm told by that same insider the goal is to sell 60,000 seats and gross around $4.5 million dollars a show. That's a lot of cash!

That article is just speculating on the average cost of $70. I'm sure it's going to be higher. Metallica was charging $100+ per ticket for their stadium tour. Now you've got 3 of the biggest hair bands in the 80's on one stage, with the headliner reuniting after a hiatus, asking for over $3 million per show.

Either way, it's interesting that a promoter in Iowa turned the tour down because the bands want too much money and they don't have a venue large enough to recoup the cost.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 21, 2019, 08:04:11 AM: Yea, I'm definitely concerned about ticket prices here. I plan on going but I'm not going to dish out insane money for a shit seat without a view.
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Post by: Grappler on November 21, 2019, 08:16:16 AM: Quote from: cramx3 on November 21, 2019, 08:04:11 AM
Yea, I'm definitely concerned about ticket prices here. I plan on going but I'm not going to dish out insane money for a shit seat without a view.

That's what amazes me. I've seen so many comments from friends on social media that are incredibly excited about this tour. Don't they realize that you're paying a ton of money to be very far away from the stage?

I've seen all three of these bands at least once, between 15-20 years ago, when they were all younger and in better shape than they are now. There is no way is this tour going to be better than any of those shows. No thanks, not interested this time.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 21, 2019, 10:31:19 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 21, 2019, 04:54:51 AM
Jay would be proud of Ben tonight. He went to a trivia night and there was a music section and they were asking all about Beyonce , Adele etc.......and Ben yells out " Where's the stuff on the 80's mate?" :metal

:metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on November 21, 2019, 12:27:58 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 21, 2019, 10:31:19 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on November 21, 2019, 04:54:51 AM
Jay would be proud of Ben tonight. He went to a trivia night and there was a music section and they were asking all about Beyonce , Adele etc.......and Ben yells out " Where's the stuff on the 80's mate?" :metal

:metal :metal :metal :metal

:metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2019, 12:36:35 PM: I saw Crue back in 84 when they were hungry. Vince doesn’t look like he ever stops eating long enough to be hungry now.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 21, 2019, 12:51:10 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 21, 2019, 12:36:35 PM
I saw Crue back in 84 when they were hungry. Vince doesn’t look like he ever stops eating long enough to be hungry now.

:lol

I read a rumor that part of the deal for the tour with Live Nation was he needs to lose 40 lbs, I hope its true.
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Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2019, 01:14:13 PM: I actually listened to the new Whitesnake last night while working on rosters for work. Damn, it was pretty shit. Coverdale sounds awful. Couple of really nice guitar solos here and there but that's about it.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2019, 04:12:45 PM: I really liked it but Cov sounds bad.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 23, 2019, 09:31:37 AM: The lyrics are cheesy (shut up and kiss me!) but I dont hate it. Never listened to the whole album, really don't care that much to get it, but the singles are fun but not great songs. Whitesnake - Hey You Live NJ 2019 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98WHB5mUXNs) Man watching this makes me upset Luppi couldn't bring Secret Sphere to the US for progpower this year.
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2019, 10:38:05 AM: Wow! Beg much? (http://bravewords.com/news/michael-sweet-four-reasons-why-stryper-is-the-most-logical-choice-to-be-the-first-of-four-on-the-motley-crue-tour) :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on November 30, 2019, 11:08:16 AM: I went to see Uli Jon Roth live in a pub venue nearby the night before last. It was absolutely awesome. His singer was incredible, and Uli”s still got it.

Anyway, in swotting for the gig, I was listening to Tokyo Tapes I’ve had to add it to my list of best live albums.
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2019, 11:11:41 AM: I love Tokyo Tapes. The version of We'll Burn The Sky is amazing. Didn't they use the Frampton Comes Alive crowd noise for it though?
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Post by: cramx3 on November 30, 2019, 11:45:53 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 30, 2019, 10:38:05 AM
Wow! Beg much? (http://bravewords.com/news/michael-sweet-four-reasons-why-stryper-is-the-most-logical-choice-to-be-the-first-of-four-on-the-motley-crue-tour) :lol

:lol The tour does not need a 4th band and this is funny to see this plea. Also, one of the reasons so they can do an encore together :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2019, 02:03:09 PM: I heard there will be a 4th band on the Crue/Leppard/Poison tour to open the show. The rumor on the radio was that it's an 80's band, but a different genre than the other three.
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2019, 02:04:26 PM: I wonder of Tesla would grab that spot.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 30, 2019, 02:29:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 30, 2019, 02:04:26 PM
I wonder of Tesla would grab that spot.

Then the other bands don't have to play, because Tesla is/was so much better. :D
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Post by: TAC on November 30, 2019, 02:29:45 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 30, 2019, 02:29:10 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 30, 2019, 02:04:26 PM
I wonder of Tesla would grab that spot.

Then the other bands don't have to play, because Tesla is/was so much better. :D

:metal :metal
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Post by: cramx3 on December 01, 2019, 11:53:13 AM: Ugh I'd rather not a 4th, no need to take away from Def Leppards set. I do think Tesla might be too good for that opening spot. Tesla also opened for Def Leppard and Poison only a few years ago too.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2019, 11:55:47 AM: I mentioned Tesla, because Tesla toured a lot with Def Leppard and Poison in the 80's. Heck, they even wrote a song about Steve Clark.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 01, 2019, 11:59:42 AM: It would be fitting, kind of hope for a band that I'd not only like but never saw before personally.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2019, 12:09:13 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on December 01, 2019, 11:59:42 AM
It would be fitting, kind of hope for a band that I'd not only like but never saw before personally.

Do you have a wish list knowing it's will likely be from that era?
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Post by: cramx3 on December 01, 2019, 12:11:40 PM: Nope, I really haven't discovered bands from that era since I loved it in my high school days and those bands I pretty much have all seen now (besides Motley Crue). It would be nice to discover a band in this opening slot. I won't be mad if it does end up being Tesla, they were good when I saw them earlier this year. I know they'd be good.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2019, 12:12:47 PM: I wonder if Whitesnake gets a sniff.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2019, 04:05:23 PM: Stryper are pitching for the gig.
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2019, 04:07:30 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 01, 2019, 04:05:23 PM
Stryper are pitching for the gig.

You posted yesterday right after I posted that. Now you bring it up? :lol

(You must not've clicked the link..)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2019, 08:42:09 PM: I hope this guy ends up in a really great full time gig.................yeah Animal Drive are good and his project with Lynch seems pretty decent but he is basically Ray Gillen reincarnate.

https://youtu.be/FjtLhdgObQQ
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Post by: Lowdz on December 02, 2019, 01:42:16 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 01, 2019, 08:42:09 PM
I hope this guy ends up in a really great full time gig.................yeah Animal Drive are good and his project with Lynch seems pretty decent but he is basically Ray Gillen reincarnate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjtLhdgObQQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1DewygWFShKGMaJO_4pk2GhSf9y7F5sU9TFd4DQSBd2M_e-P2IIb-qbTw&t=205s

He has a great voice and I’m looking forward to the album with Lynch.
Let’s hope Jake hears this and gets excited enough to go back to a Badlands style with him, rather than the shit that is Red Dragon Cartel.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 03, 2019, 10:07:34 PM: For Savatage fans ...........the new single from Zak Stevens fronted Frontiers project Archon Angel (with Aldo from Secret Sphere) premieres at the link below in 9 hrs time.

Hopefully it's better than your average project band!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN5xdP3GOC8&fbclid=IwAR2qpzu1-cmMp7xZczw1dIvBJydLZeGK-DN18DkMeMfIqKUML-C7xaj5HhA
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2019, 04:13:24 AM: Fingers crossed.

Hopefully a new C2C is on the horizon sometime soon also.
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Post by: Samsara on December 04, 2019, 08:17:37 AM: Sounds pretty good. Old school Zak-era Savs sound for sure. Dig it.

Seems like that is Frontiers' thing now -- put classic singers with albums reminiscent of their older bands to draw in suckers like me. :lol

Needless to say, after this single, I'm in.
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Post by: Samsara on December 04, 2019, 08:29:33 AM: Quote from: Grappler on November 21, 2019, 07:38:50 AM
Get ready to open your wallets if you want to see the Crue/Leppard/Poison tour:

https://krna.com/the-motley-crue-tour-is-way-too-expensive-for-iowa/?fbclid=IwAR3YSq379W-SQ8Qa38jOmerKHs4fSuK3wqzKVbVBJrk9UG0bnVKH15CFKRY

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By now you've heard the news that Motley Crue is making a comeback. The band is planning a summer tour with Def Leppard and Poison. So, why shouldn't this awesome tour make a stop in Iowa?

The Great Jones County Fair would be the only promoters capable of putting on something this big. They have been known to pay a top country act over a million dollars for a performance. But this show is bigger....much bigger.

An industry friend of mine told be he was offered the show. The numbers breakout like this according to his inquiry:

Motley Crue: $2 Million

Def Leppard $1 Million

Poison: $250,000

That's a total of $3 million, $250 thousand dollars! Let's say the average ticket price is $70. That means you would need to sell 46,000 tickets just to break even. The last time I checked, there wasn't that much room at the fairgrounds.

I'm told by that same insider the goal is to sell 60,000 seats and gross around $4.5 million dollars a show. That's a lot of cash!

That article is just speculating on the average cost of $70. I'm sure it's going to be higher. Metallica was charging $100+ per ticket for their stadium tour. Now you've got 3 of the biggest hair bands in the 80's on one stage, with the headliner reuniting after a hiatus, asking for over $3 million per show.

Either way, it's interesting that a promoter in Iowa turned the tour down because the bands want too much money and they don't have a venue large enough to recoup the cost.

Those tickets will be a low-end of 100 for nosebleeds, and probably top-tier at 300+ (before resellers start gouging). Guaranteed. And people will (stupidly) pay. Motley Crue is pointless - Vince can't sing at ALL. Def Leppard - Joe Elliot is OK, but back in 2006, his midrange was gone. Thankfully, the rest of the band can sing which makes up for it (not the case with Motley). And Poison - at least Brett can still sing his stuff.

The tour will be a smash success, but they won't be getting any of my money.
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Post by: Grappler on December 04, 2019, 08:41:15 AM: Quote from: Samsara on December 04, 2019, 08:17:37 AM
Sounds pretty good. Old school Zak-era Savs sound for sure. Dig it.

Seems like that is Frontiers' thing now -- put classic singers with albums reminiscent of their older bands to draw in suckers like me. :lol

Needless to say, after this single, I'm in.

I'm a sucker for these Frontiers things too when they have singers that I love. This is a great song and Zak hasn't lost a touch.
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Post by: Samsara on December 04, 2019, 09:21:26 AM: Grapp,

Yep, he's as good as ever. Listening to Edge of Thorns now. :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 04, 2019, 10:09:19 AM: Liking this Archon Angel track. :tup Thanks for the tip, Brent.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 04, 2019, 01:43:01 PM: Looks like Joan Jett and the Blackhearts are the 4th band for the Motley Crue tour. I'm not against this, fits what I was asking for as in a band I haven't seen before.
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2019, 01:45:43 PM: Wow, that's horrible.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 04, 2019, 01:48:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 04, 2019, 01:45:43 PM
Wow, that's horrible.

:lol knew this was coming
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2019, 02:11:13 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 03, 2019, 10:07:34 PM
For Savatage fans ...........the new single from Zak Stevens fronted Frontiers project Archon Angel (with Aldo from Secret Sphere) premieres at the link below in 9 hrs time.

Hopefully it's better than your average project band!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN5xdP3GOC8&fbclid=IwAR2qpzu1-cmMp7xZczw1dIvBJydLZeGK-DN18DkMeMfIqKUML-C7xaj5HhA

I'm sorry, I just had to stop this vid for a moment at the 0:29 mark and have a laugh at the blatant Savatage rip offs here. Edge of Thorns or Gutter Ballet? Why not both? Will continue now.
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2019, 02:21:27 PM: Saying that, the song was pretty impressive.
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2019, 02:40:31 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 03, 2019, 10:07:34 PM
average project band!

That's redundant.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 04, 2019, 02:57:56 PM: Dates for the Motley Crue tour announced and WTF no date at Metlife Stadium, but doing Citifield in Queens on a Sunday? Ugh, looks like I'll go to the Saturday show in Philly. Just reserved myself a hotel room (refundable) in case prices start to sky rocket with people traveling for the Saturday gig.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2019, 03:05:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 04, 2019, 02:40:31 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 03, 2019, 10:07:34 PM
average project band!

That's redundant.

Only exception being when it involves a member of Winger :metal

Next week there will be a single released from another one featuring Reb Beach , Robin McCauley and Jeff Pilson.
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2019, 03:13:59 PM: I saw the Reb Beach one coming up. Frontiers fucking loves these random projects. It's like the have a bunch of names in a hat and just out 4 or 5 and bam, that's a band.
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2019, 03:15:38 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 04, 2019, 03:05:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 04, 2019, 02:40:31 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 03, 2019, 10:07:34 PM
average project band!

That's redundant.

Only exception being when it involves a member of Winger :metal

Next week there will be a single released from another one featuring Reb Beach , Robin McCauley and Jeff Pilson.

I saw that.

Quote from: cramx3 on December 04, 2019, 02:57:56 PM
Dates for the Motley Crue tour announced and WTF no date at Metlife Stadium, but doing Citifield in Queens on a Sunday? Ugh, looks like I'll go to the Saturday show in Philly. Just reserved myself a hotel room (refundable) in case prices start to sky rocket with people traveling for the Saturday gig.

They're playing Fenway. Hardly a Stadium...
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2019, 03:19:05 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 04, 2019, 03:13:59 PM
I saw the Reb Beach one coming up. Frontiers fucking loves these random projects. It's like the have a bunch of names in a hat and just out 4 or 5 and bam, that's a band.

The big issue with a lot of them is that it's a bunch of well known musicians playing other people's songs. It works well very rarely (early Place Vendome) but it's the same with bands like Revolution Saints , as discussed in the other thread. You have a guy like Jack Blades who is considered one of the better writers in melodic rock just playing stuff from the menu offered up by Leonardo DeVeccio & Co.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 04, 2019, 03:19:30 PM: :lol Fenway is pretty small for a stadium, looks like they went for baseball stadiums not football stadiums. Def Leppard and Journey played Fenway last year and a bunch of other baseball stadiums. With no other support.
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2019, 03:27:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 04, 2019, 03:19:05 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 04, 2019, 03:13:59 PM
I saw the Reb Beach one coming up. Frontiers fucking loves these random projects. It's like the have a bunch of names in a hat and just out 4 or 5 and bam, that's a band.

The big issue with a lot of them is that it's a bunch of well known musicians playing other people's songs. It works well very rarely (early Place Vendome) but it's the same with bands like Revolution Saints , as discussed in the other thread. You have a guy like Jack Blades who is considered one of the better writers in melodic rock just playing stuff from the menu offered up by Leonardo DeVeccio & Co.

Indeed. Just seems strange. It is the Frontiers Factory after all haha. I thought most of the first album was excellent so hopefully this third one can offer something decent again.

The other problem is, is when these guys just play generic songs written by others, there's really no fucking point them playing. It doesn't matter who plays them really.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2019, 03:32:51 PM: That was the bit where you were supposed to one-up me on the mangling of Alessandro's name :P
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Post by: Anguyen92 on December 04, 2019, 08:09:55 PM: That Motley Crue/Def Leppard /Poison/Joan Jett tour is playing in SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, CA (where the Rams is going to play and is going to be next to the Forum and the first ever concerts there will be T. Swift headlining..... where tickets "sold out" quickly.)

I didn't even think, even with Motley Crue's history in LA, that this bill would be big enough to do a football stadium. I mean I would think a more feasible venue of choice for a great turnout would be Dodger Stadium, but I guess people really think a lot of people, that wants to relive their 80s youth, will shell out stadium prices for tickets and sell around 60k tickets? I don't know.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 04, 2019, 08:14:26 PM: 60k is a lot of people, I think 30-40k is doable for this tour. Def Leppard and Journey were doing huge shows. Motley Crue/Poison/Joan Jett will easily make up for what Journey alone was pulling in plus more. It's 22 dates, not nearly as long as that tour either (I think that was over 40 shows) with the stops a bit more spread out (no NJ show for example).
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2019, 08:16:32 PM: I'd be shocked if they sell 40k tickets to any one show. Maybe LA or NY, but that's it. Hell, I'd be shocked if they sold 30k tickets to this.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 04, 2019, 08:25:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 04, 2019, 08:16:32 PM
I'd be shocked if they sell 40k tickets to any one show. Maybe LA or NY, but that's it. Hell, I'd be shocked if they sold 30k tickets to this.

and those markets likely have the highest ticket prices too

Here are stats from the 2018 Def Leppard / Journey NA tour:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def_Leppard_%26_Journey_2018_Tour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def_Leppard_%26_Journey_2018_Tour)

Fenway park was sold out at 34k. Most of the smaller shows in arenas with less seats were sold out and they did a lot more shows on that tour so they weren't as georgraphically spaced out. All the stadium dates sold well. I'm most certain the promoters were looking at the $$$ when seeing these stats.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8480677/journey-def-leppard-tour-wraps-1-million-fans (https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8480677/journey-def-leppard-tour-wraps-1-million-fans)

Have to pay to see the full article which I am not doing but you can see from the snippet, 1 million tickets sold and over 97 million gross from that tour. 30k is definitely happening at many if not all of these dates (Hershey for example only holds 27k and will probably sell out again) for next year.
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2019, 08:34:37 PM: Wow, I'm surprised at the Fenway number.
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Post by: Grappler on December 05, 2019, 07:05:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 04, 2019, 08:16:32 PM
I'd be shocked if they sell 40k tickets to any one show. Maybe LA or NY, but that's it. Hell, I'd be shocked if they sold 30k tickets to this.

I wouldn't be shocked if they sell more. I've seen people on my Facebook news feed (and even coworkers) that aren't really big into metal or hair bands (like us) absolutely salivating at this tour. The three largest bands of that genre in one package tour? That's enough to get a lot of casual fan's butts in the seats. The nostalgia associated with this tour is HUGE. It's the hair band equivalent of the Big 4 shows to a thrash metal fan.

I've also seen a lot of comments on news articles completely affirming what Nikki Sixx is saying - The Dirt has developed a ton of younger fans of the band that never had the chance to see them previously.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 05, 2019, 08:23:50 AM: Yea, the success of the Dirt is definitely going to help ticket sales. Same as Def Leppard being inducted to the Rock N Roll HOF, I think these two things will help bring in new and younger audiences.

I saw a tweet from Eddie Trunk who has been mostly shitting on this (from what I see on twitter, I don't listen to his radio show) but he stated that at least these three bands are almost completely the original band members. And that actually is kind of impressive and I'm sure that's a draw too. To go back to Journey, I wonder how many people don't see them because it's not Perry?
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Post by: Lowdz on December 06, 2019, 01:35:30 PM: Man, there will be a lot of disappointed people hearing and seeing this Vince.
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Post by: Big Hath on December 06, 2019, 07:51:41 PM: Vince Neil last time I saw him:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2746/4341862971_bdf861b9cb_z.jpg)

and now:

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alternativenation.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F05%2Fvinceneil2018.jpg&hash=52ba10ff806f4ee62529347b47fb53c0a38fd1e4)
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2019, 08:03:06 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdQnZLEWNo
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Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2019, 08:09:09 PM: :rollin
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2019, 08:14:38 PM: But wait, there's more!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lynAhYQgoeE

WTF'nF? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2019, 08:23:34 PM: And the top comment................

The insensitivity here is real.
Do some research on the poor guy and you'll learn that after this show he had to be carried away in an ambulance because following the final song he immediately went into labor

:lol
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2019, 08:25:28 PM: Oh man. I can't believe people are going to spend money for that this summer. What an absolute fucking joke.
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Post by: Anguyen92 on December 06, 2019, 08:45:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 06, 2019, 08:25:28 PM
Oh man. I can't believe people are going to spend money for that this summer. What an absolute fucking joke.

Well, unless I hear otherwise when it comes to the band's performance, hopefully Def Leppard more than carry Motley Crue's shortcomings to make this a solid night. I will not be going to the Inglewood show though unless I get like a ticket for like $25 total, even for a nosebleed seat, and I get free parking because screw paying $30.00 there (I don't know if the parking there will be $30.00, but The Forum next to the stadium is $30.00 and I don't see how they would charge less than that).
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Post by: cramx3 on December 06, 2019, 09:00:39 PM: It seems to be a coheadlining tour, so they will play equal sets and maybe rotate the headlining slot. Tim's hate for this is making me love it even more. We all know Motley will suck live, the show is more than that.
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2019, 05:42:50 AM: You know, what I hate about it is that it's a blatant cash grab. And none of these bands have earned my respect to pay ut anything for them to line their pockets. I've never been a fan of Poison, but I'm not going to slag them.

I am just not in agreement with any of Def Leppard's music post 1983. I think they blow, honestly. And I saw Motley Crue on 3 headlining tours in the 80's and thought they were great. But what are we doing?
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Post by: cramx3 on December 07, 2019, 08:51:56 AM: It's hard to argue about being a cash grab, but it's going to be a fun night IMO including watching Vince be terrible. I think knowing they are going to be shit just sets my expectations as such. It'll be an awesome show for the three other bands who I expect to put on a good show and then one band who will be shit. By the point of the night I'll probably be drunk and just laugh at them as my entertainment.

There is a part of me that thinks because of the money involved and the rumor of livenation making Vince lose weight, that maybe they will surprise and perform decent. I don't expect it, I expect a shit show and am looking forward to it.
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2019, 09:36:21 AM: Yeah Cram, I don't mean to sound like a dick. I'm sure a day out at a stadium of rock bands is a great day out.

I always thought Motley Crue was fantastic live.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 07, 2019, 09:55:29 AM: You sound like everyone on blabbermouth comment section really (minus the dickness, just the opinion). It's a very popular opinion you have. Not really meaning to rile you up or anything either, we just approach it from different angles.

I actually have the motley crue end of tour concert blu-ray. I never even watched it. I bought it all those years ago because I always had that tour as being one I should have been to and it's a big reason why I do want to see them, I just never have before. Kind of a bucket list thing for me. I already know I'm going to like Def Leppard and Poison more so it's more of an event thing and not just about their music for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 07, 2019, 10:12:20 AM: I would imagine a lot of people are going to this show for the atmosphere (cougars/funbags/booze) and aren't expecting these bands in their prime. I saw Vince last year at a casino show and he clearly struggled a bit, but it was a good time. I'm curious if the bands are going to stick with only their 80's material; because if Motley plays something from Generation Swine, New Tattoo or Saints, that's prime piss break time.

I don't remember the last time a rock tour has gotten this much discussion and attention. It's been the main discussion with Eddie Trunk for the last few weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2019, 10:44:50 AM: I saw the video a few years ago of Motley Crue on some Carnival styled show and it was awesome.

Here's my problem in a nutshell.
1. Motley Crue just wants my money.
2. I hate Def Leppard
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on December 07, 2019, 11:17:39 AM: Blabbermouth is posting an article anytime any band member says a word. The hype is a bit annoying already.

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 07, 2019, 10:12:20 AM
I would imagine a lot of people are going to this show for the atmosphere (cougars/funbags/booze) and aren't expecting these bands in their prime.

Yup yup. It's going to be fun and I do like Def Leppard and Poison's live shows these days. Joan Jett is a nice addition for me, get to experience something new (well old, but a first for me). And by the time Motley Crue hits the stage everyone including them will likely be sauced and it'll just be a party with 30k people.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2019, 03:11:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 06, 2019, 08:03:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdQnZLEWNo

Big Mac $1.03! :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Zoom E on December 08, 2019, 03:43:13 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 07, 2019, 10:12:20 AM
I would imagine a lot of people are going to this show for the atmosphere (cougars/funbags/booze) and aren't expecting these bands in their prime. I saw Vince last year at a casino show and he clearly struggled a bit, but it was a good time. I'm curious if the bands are going to stick with only their 80's material; because if Motley plays something from Generation Swine, New Tattoo or Saints, that's prime piss break time.

I don't remember the last time a rock tour has gotten this much discussion and attention. It's been the main discussion with Eddie Trunk for the last few weeks.

Cougars? Don’t forget the manthers 😂
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2019, 03:44:13 PM: Since when did we start calling perverts manthers? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Zoom E on December 08, 2019, 04:24:08 PM: Since around 2009. Apparently. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2019, 04:27:28 PM: I have literally never heard of that term. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on December 08, 2019, 05:12:26 PM: me neither but sounds legit :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2019, 05:17:24 PM: (https://i.imgflip.com/3iu7zp.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/3iu7zp) (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator[/url)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2019, 05:44:34 PM: Quote from: Zoom E on December 08, 2019, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 07, 2019, 10:12:20 AM
I would imagine a lot of people are going to this show for the atmosphere (cougars/funbags/booze) and aren't expecting these bands in their prime. I saw Vince last year at a casino show and he clearly struggled a bit, but it was a good time. I'm curious if the bands are going to stick with only their 80's material; because if Motley plays something from Generation Swine, New Tattoo or Saints, that's prime piss break time.

I don't remember the last time a rock tour has gotten this much discussion and attention. It's been the main discussion with Eddie Trunk for the last few weeks.

Cougars? Don’t forget the manthers 😂

I have never ever heard that term either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 08, 2019, 06:30:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 08, 2019, 03:11:41 AM
Quote from: TAC on December 06, 2019, 08:03:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdQnZLEWNo

Big Mac $1.03! :rollin

and Lemonade - peed on stage :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 08, 2019, 06:54:20 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 08, 2019, 05:44:34 PM
Quote from: Zoom E on December 08, 2019, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 07, 2019, 10:12:20 AM
I would imagine a lot of people are going to this show for the atmosphere (cougars/funbags/booze) and aren't expecting these bands in their prime. I saw Vince last year at a casino show and he clearly struggled a bit, but it was a good time. I'm curious if the bands are going to stick with only their 80's material; because if Motley plays something from Generation Swine, New Tattoo or Saints, that's prime piss break time.

I don't remember the last time a rock tour has gotten this much discussion and attention. It's been the main discussion with Eddie Trunk for the last few weeks.

Cougars? Don’t forget the manthers 😂

I have never ever heard that term either.

Me neither, I’ll stick with cougars and funbags
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2019, 04:01:25 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 08, 2019, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 08, 2019, 05:44:34 PM
Quote from: Zoom E on December 08, 2019, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 07, 2019, 10:12:20 AM
I would imagine a lot of people are going to this show for the atmosphere (cougars/funbags/booze) and aren't expecting these bands in their prime. I saw Vince last year at a casino show and he clearly struggled a bit, but it was a good time. I'm curious if the bands are going to stick with only their 80's material; because if Motley plays something from Generation Swine, New Tattoo or Saints, that's prime piss break time.

I don't remember the last time a rock tour has gotten this much discussion and attention. It's been the main discussion with Eddie Trunk for the last few weeks.

Cougars? Don’t forget the manthers 😂

I have never ever heard that term either.

Me neither, I’ll stick with cougars and funbags

If Jason doesn't know this term, it doesn't exist.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2019, 02:57:32 PM: Looks like the Beach/Pilson/McCauley album might be quite decent. Nothing ground breaking but the samples sound at the upper end of what I could've expected.

If you want a couple of the heavier songs , try 1 and 7

https://www.amazon.co.jp/Shake-World-BLACK-SWAN/dp/B07ZTW1WXB/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_ja_JP=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&keywords=black+swan+shake+the+world&qid=1575910283&sr=8-1
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 09, 2019, 03:13:28 PM: The cover has a white swan on it and the band are called a Black Swan. 🤔
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2019, 03:18:50 PM: A black swan that is white is a black swan event :justjen
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2019, 03:54:01 PM: I'll check those samples out tonight. Love Reb's playing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2019, 05:37:31 PM: First single :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kLc2v2v_Tw&app=desktop
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on December 09, 2019, 07:04:50 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2019, 05:37:31 PM
First single :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kLc2v2v_Tw&app=desktop
The video is no longer available.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2019, 07:17:39 PM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on December 09, 2019, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2019, 05:37:31 PM
First single :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kLc2v2v_Tw&app=desktop
The video is no longer available.

I just played it a second ago................weird. Normally if there's some sort of geo-block its me who cops it .

Not sure why you can't see it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 09, 2019, 07:53:44 PM: Brent, it debuts on Dec 10th. It's still the 9th here. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2019, 07:58:20 PM: Righto..................it doesn't show the preview date on mine as obviously the time has passed.

Join me listening when you catch up :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 09, 2019, 08:15:42 PM: :lol

Right? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2019, 12:04:52 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 09, 2019, 07:53:44 PM
Brent, it debuts on Dec 10th. It's still the 9th here. :lol

Get up with the times Tim, geesh!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2019, 04:16:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 09, 2019, 05:37:31 PM
First single :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kLc2v2v_Tw&app=desktop

That was pretty damn strong. Actually reminded me of Erase the Slater style Dokken.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 10, 2019, 06:56:52 AM: Yeah I agree - I got a slight Dio vibe at times too.

It's certainly better than I expected and Robin sounds pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on December 10, 2019, 09:09:39 AM: I shouldn't be surprised, because Reb Beach and Jeff Pilson are awesome. But holy fuck that smoked. :metal

Just gave another 13 bucks to Frontiers. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 10, 2019, 01:19:23 PM: Really good tune :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 10, 2019, 01:22:02 PM: Enjoyed that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2019, 02:36:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 10, 2019, 06:56:52 AM
Yeah I agree - I got a slight Dio vibe at times too.

It's certainly better than I expected and Robin sounds pretty damn good.

I felt the Dio vibe too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2019, 02:47:06 PM: So I want to like this. I love Robin McAuley's voice anyway. The guitar was smoking too.

But the samples on Amazon were pretty underwhelming.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2019, 05:26:05 PM: Quote from: Samsara on December 10, 2019, 09:09:39 AM
I shouldn't be surprised, because Reb Beach and Jeff Pilson are awesome. But holy fuck that smoked. :metal

Just gave another 13 bucks to Frontiers. :lol

Keeping Del Vicchio in work, good on you mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: EPICVIEW on December 10, 2019, 06:24:40 PM: Im not impressed with Black Swan sadly meh.....
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 11, 2019, 06:29:41 PM: Joey Vera just posted that recording for a new Armored Saint album has started :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2019, 06:37:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 11, 2019, 06:29:41 PM
Joey Vera just posted that recording for a new Armored Saint album has started :metal

Now THAT is good news!!!

One of my all time favorite bands.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: EPICVIEW on December 11, 2019, 07:20:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 11, 2019, 06:37:34 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 11, 2019, 06:29:41 PM
Joey Vera just posted that recording for a new Armored Saint album has started :metal

Now THAT is good news!!!

One of my all time favorite bands.

YES
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: EPICVIEW on December 11, 2019, 07:26:42 PM: The Black Swan left me flat but made me for some reason think of this

https://youtu.be/We_1juXa6Pg
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2019, 07:46:06 PM: You got Loudness on the mind, bro. :lol

I can see that comparison.

It's just not Loudness without Minoru Niihara.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2019, 11:18:39 PM: I need to try more AS. What I've heard is solid, but nothing has wowed me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: EPICVIEW on December 12, 2019, 10:54:18 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 11, 2019, 07:46:06 PM
You got Loudness on the mind, bro. :lol

I can see that comparison.

It's just not Loudness without Minoru Niihara.

you are correct brother
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on December 13, 2019, 08:44:56 AM: Got my ticket for motley cru/def leppard... $130 after fees for 300 level aisle seat behind home plate but near 3rd base line side. Not cheap, not the most expensive either. Starts at 5pm, probably ends at 11pm. That's a long concert. I'm excited for my weekend trip to Philly for this.

I also bought a season lawn pass for my local amphitheater, they only announced a few shows so far, but I guess I'll check out The Black Crowes and Doobie Brothers (seperate shows) since I got the pass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: EPICVIEW on December 13, 2019, 09:07:31 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 11, 2019, 07:46:06 PM
You got Loudness on the mind, bro. :lol

I can see that comparison.

It's just not Loudness without Minoru Niihara.

for you bro enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=selhskb9ygM
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 13, 2019, 10:37:13 AM: Quote from: EPICVIEW on December 11, 2019, 07:26:42 PM
The Black Swan left me flat but made me for some reason think of this

https://youtu.be/We_1juXa6Pg

:metal :metal :metal
Such a great album. Great guitar tone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2019, 01:17:57 PM: Quote from: EPICVIEW on December 11, 2019, 07:26:42 PM
The Black Swan left me flat but made me for some reason think of this

https://youtu.be/We_1juXa6Pg

Wow, that was awesome. Never checked out Loudness but had no idea Vescera sang for them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Anguyen92 on December 13, 2019, 01:55:59 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on December 13, 2019, 08:44:56 AM
I also bought a season lawn pass for my local amphitheater, they only announced a few shows so far, but I guess I'll check out The Black Crowes and Doobie Brothers (seperate shows) since I got the pass.

Dang, man. I looked at the list of amphitheaters that has that deal hoping that FivePoint Amphitheater in Irvine is on it and sadly, it's not on it. Four cities in CA has this offer, but not Irvine, CA. Bummer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 13, 2019, 04:05:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 13, 2019, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: EPICVIEW on December 11, 2019, 07:26:42 PM
The Black Swan left me flat but made me for some reason think of this

https://youtu.be/We_1juXa6Pg

Wow, that was awesome. Never checked out Loudness but had no idea Vescera sang for them.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41830.msg1825671#msg1825671
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on December 13, 2019, 04:10:28 PM: Quote from: Anguyen92 on December 13, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on December 13, 2019, 08:44:56 AM
I also bought a season lawn pass for my local amphitheater, they only announced a few shows so far, but I guess I'll check out The Black Crowes and Doobie Brothers (seperate shows) since I got the pass.

Dang, man. I looked at the list of amphitheaters that has that deal hoping that FivePoint Amphitheater in Irvine is on it and sadly, it's not on it. Four cities in CA has this offer, but not Irvine, CA. Bummer.

Is that place close to you? I know you go to lots of shows too but not sure about your parking and driving situation to make it worth it? If PNC Bank Arts Center wasn't down the street, I probably wouldn't consider a season pass. But at this point, it seems like my summer is booked for concerts :lol now just wait for all the announcements. It also comes with a fast pass to I guess cut the line getting in, but I've hardly ever had issues with long waits there. I may end up checking out my first country show this summer :lol only because those all sell out (the pass is good for sold out shows) with lots of drunk girls
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Anguyen92 on December 13, 2019, 04:25:20 PM: It's pretty darn close driving wise for me (well, at least compared to driving to LA). Roughly 16 miles. I mean traffic on the 5 South freeway is hit or miss. I know parking is free at the amphitheater. Plus it gives me more excuses to go to the Irvine Spectrum mall on the way there which has all kinds of restaurants and shops. I would have bought the season pass if FivePoint Amphitheater was on that list.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on December 13, 2019, 04:27:59 PM: Oh nice, yea that sucks they don't offer it. I figured that might be all of them as I got emails for the offer from other amphitheaters I've been to as well. Maybe your concert slate there is going to be much better
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 13, 2019, 04:46:52 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 13, 2019, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: EPICVIEW on December 11, 2019, 07:26:42 PM
The Black Swan left me flat but made me for some reason think of this

https://youtu.be/We_1juXa6Pg

Wow, that was awesome. Never checked out Loudness but had no idea Vescera sang for them.

Check out the song "Crazy Nights". It will be stuck in your head for a couple of days :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2019, 01:56:35 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 13, 2019, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 13, 2019, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: EPICVIEW on December 11, 2019, 07:26:42 PM
The Black Swan left me flat but made me for some reason think of this

https://youtu.be/We_1juXa6Pg

Wow, that was awesome. Never checked out Loudness but had no idea Vescera sang for them.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41830.msg1825671#msg1825671

I will check this album out mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 16, 2019, 12:21:56 PM: Got my ticket for Geoff Tate doing the whole of RFO and Empire in May 🤘
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on December 16, 2019, 12:26:48 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 16, 2019, 12:21:56 PM
Got my ticket for Geoff Tate doing the whole of RFO and Empire in May 🤘

:metal

Looking forward to the West Coast swing of that tour in fall 2020.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on December 17, 2019, 09:29:13 AM: I actually got a ticket to see Queensryche, I've never been a huge fan of them but my local venue had a black friday sale, 2 for 1, so I got some for a couple concerts including theirs with John 5 opening. Figured since I can sell the other, it's a pretty cheap ticket and probably worth checking out. I think I paid $35 after fees so if I offload the other for under face like at $20, thats a $15 ticket to see Queensryche with John 5.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on December 18, 2019, 09:37:22 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 04, 2019, 08:16:32 PM
I'd be shocked if they sell 40k tickets to any one show. Maybe LA or NY, but that's it. Hell, I'd be shocked if they sold 30k tickets to this.

10 shows already sold out, 7 more added today :omg:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2019, 09:58:59 AM: Wow. That’s really amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 18, 2019, 01:03:54 PM: People of our age with money now, that didn't get to see these bands in their prime, and have more money than brains or sense. I never did get a chance to see Crue or Leppard for that matter. But I'm sure as shit not gonna pay the prices they're asking to see them now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 18, 2019, 02:33:10 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 18, 2019, 01:03:54 PM
People of our age with money now, that didn't get to see these bands in their prime, and have more money than brains or sense. I never did get a chance to see Crue or Leppard for that matter. But I'm sure as shit not gonna pay the prices they're asking to see them now.

People with some excess funds that haven’t seen Leppard, Poison or Crüe, or haven’t seen them for a long time are like Wolfking. If Kade wants ice cream, chocolate or cake, he fucking has some. Same mentality for the concert tickets. I still say one of the biggest selling features of these shows will be the drunk women; my guess is about 500 on average a show will show off their hammers.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on December 18, 2019, 02:48:05 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on December 18, 2019, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: TAC on December 04, 2019, 08:16:32 PM
I'd be shocked if they sell 40k tickets to any one show. Maybe LA or NY, but that's it. Hell, I'd be shocked if they sold 30k tickets to this.

10 shows already sold out, 7 more added today :omg:

Good Lord. Never underestimate the power of a comeback story and marketing.

Hard pass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2019, 03:21:08 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 18, 2019, 02:33:10 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 18, 2019, 01:03:54 PM
People of our age with money now, that didn't get to see these bands in their prime, and have more money than brains or sense. I never did get a chance to see Crue or Leppard for that matter. But I'm sure as shit not gonna pay the prices they're asking to see them now.

People with some excess funds that haven’t seen Leppard, Poison or Crüe, or haven’t seen them for a long time are like Wolfking. If Kade wants ice cream, chocolate or cake, he fucking has some. Same mentality for the concert tickets. I still say one of the biggest selling features of these shows will be the drunk women; my guess is about 500 on average a show will show off their hammers.

:rollin

Saying that though, that's a pretty good analogy, and what Chad said too. As Chad said, if they have the money to splurge, it's kind of a 'why the fuck not?' kind of thing I would imagine.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on December 18, 2019, 03:24:19 PM: :lol

also 500 drink girls showing their goods? I didn't even consider that in the price of the ticket.

But seriously, the atmosphere is going to be wild, hence why I chose to go to a Saturday date. I think the next morning is going to be rough.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 19, 2019, 07:17:46 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 09, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
I very much liked Motherland and Kingmaker. Got sidetracked, so I likely won't get to this until tomorrow now.

So what was the verdict ?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 19, 2019, 07:38:20 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 19, 2019, 07:17:46 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on November 09, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
I very much liked Motherland and Kingmaker. Got sidetracked, so I likely won't get to this until tomorrow now.

So what was the verdict ?

Thumbs up. Nothing that sounds terribly new from Pretty Maids, but it's been a great few listens. I'll buy it if nothing other than being a completionist. It's just like Vanden Plas - you know what you're gonna get, and it's still awesome. It's like chocolate cake for dessert. Yeah, it's the same chocolate cake, but it's still awesome. Just a shame that it's only a 43 minute shorty.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2019, 01:46:13 PM: I completely forgot for a bit there that Pretty Maids had a new album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 19, 2019, 01:51:03 PM: It’s pretty standard Pretty Maids but that still means it’s worth it.

Love the Vanden Plas.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 19, 2019, 08:03:18 PM: Looks like I should've been following the fucking shopping cart thread :lol Down here at the moment I don't need a shopping cart to do damage to my car - my steering wheel just melted :lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZK9f36Gc/temp.jpg)

As far as Pretty Maids goes the reviews I have seen have been about 80% "strong album as per usual etc......" and 20% "yeah.......getting a bit sick of the same brickwalled sound - sounds like they're in cruise control". I'm in the 20% camp it pains me to say.
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Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2019, 10:16:17 PM: Unbelievable start to summer mate. Not gonna be a fun three months. We hit 41.5 degrees on Monday which is very rare up here.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 20, 2019, 12:34:52 AM: We can only dream of temperatures like that here. Mind you, it don’t miss fires like you’ve had. And a melted steering wheel? 😱

There again, everything in Oz wants to kill you, right?

Stay safe!
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Post by: bl5150 on December 20, 2019, 02:43:00 AM: Yeah - it's rather eerie down here. We (Victoria) are the "bushfire capital of the world" in terms of catastrophic fires/loss of life but so far it's all to the north in NSW. In terms of sheer area that is now one of the biggest fires anywhere in the world ever but thankfully loss of life has been minimal thus far.

And here we are in 46 degrees with not much going on with the smoke from NSW hovering above. It just feels like we are not going to be lucky much longer. They even had fire in the QLD rainforest didn't they Kade?

Anyway........on the music side of things I have almost caught up with my sampling of 2018/2019 titles (from waaaaay behind) and have a mega list of obscure stuff to work through. I can't be sure I will get through it all but I will try and have some sort of list or show to share before the end of summer . See how we go. Ben is playing "rep cricket" across January which means 7-8 hour games over multiple days so I might have to see if I can find an old iPod and crank some music while I am watching.
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Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2019, 04:34:28 AM: We've had fires in places that we never get fires. Where I am backs onto bushland that is slowly getting turned in residential houses and had some fires literally a couple of km down the road. No threat to where I was though but the smoke has constantly been an issue.

The Gold Coast Hinterland got damaged which is probably 20 minutes away from where I am and yeah that's rainforest that got damaged. Some staff live that way and came very close to tragedy too.

Had a contractor at work on Monday and halfway through the job got a call from his son screaming to get home as fires had started on the neighbours property and was spreading. Damn that was awkward, poor fella was shitting bricks running out to the car. He hasn't been back to finish the job yet.....

But yeah, just fucking crazy mate. January and February still to come too. In 50 years our country is as good as fucked if you ask me. :-\
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 20, 2019, 06:01:21 AM: Current course and speed, in 50 years, the planet is fucked. There are lots of places that don't have 50 years. :-\
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Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2019, 01:07:55 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 20, 2019, 06:01:21 AM
Current course and speed, in 50 years, the planet is fucked. There are lots of places that don't have 50 years. :-\

I agree totally mate.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 20, 2019, 06:35:46 PM: If only the scientists of the world had warned us... oh, wait 😱
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Post by: Big Hath on December 21, 2019, 06:28:09 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 20, 2019, 06:35:46 PM
If only the scientists of the world had warned us... oh, wait 😱

It's like Krypton all over again.
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Post by: gazinwales on December 21, 2019, 11:37:20 PM: Fires are pretty close to me down the NSW South Coast.
The main one is only 9km away, it's been burning for a week now, but jumped across the road in the last 24 hours.
Thus the main road out from where I am is closed atm, but I can take a longer route to get to the highway and out of town.
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Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2019, 03:31:09 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on December 21, 2019, 11:37:20 PM
Fires are pretty close to me down the NSW South Coast.
The main one is only 9km away, it's been burning for a week now, but jumped across the road in the last 24 hours.
Thus the main road out from where I am is closed atm, but I can take a longer route to get to the highway and out of town.

Scary Gaz. All the best where you are. Watching the news tonight was frightening. Just gets worse and worse. Devastating.
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Post by: TAC on December 22, 2019, 05:00:44 PM: TAC's Christmas gift to The Cool Thread (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLvXUaZYndE)
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Post by: cramx3 on December 22, 2019, 05:10:17 PM: :lol not bad
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Post by: TAC on December 22, 2019, 05:13:21 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on December 21, 2019, 11:37:20 PM
Fires are pretty close to me down the NSW South Coast.
The main one is only 9km away, it's been burning for a week now, but jumped across the road in the last 24 hours.
Thus the main road out from where I am is closed atm, but I can take a longer route to get to the highway and out of town.

So no Top 50 Update? :neverusethis:

Just kidding. Stay safe, brother.
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Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2019, 04:34:20 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 22, 2019, 05:00:44 PM
TAC's Christmas gift to The Cool Thread (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLvXUaZYndE)

Fucking awful attempt at the guitar solo.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 23, 2019, 03:22:16 PM: Quote from: Big Hath on December 21, 2019, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 20, 2019, 06:35:46 PM
If only the scientists of the world had warned us... oh, wait 😱

It's like Krypton all over again.

😀
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 27, 2019, 11:29:23 PM: The Wolfster had mentioned using this thread as a starting point for bringing up classic albums and/or old school bands that deserve some recognition or discussion. Of course I support this! :metal :metal

This was the Wolfster’s idea but I’m sure he will agree that the Official Hard Rock /Classic Metal Music and Discussion and Memorabilia Thread has no order, rules or regulations; so any time someone wants to bring up a band or classic album, let’s do it!

Brent started with this awesome thread and Wolf came up with the idea, but I’m confident they will respect me to start things off with three albums I listened today:

Rush- Moving Pictures- I really think this is bar none one of the greatest albums ever and one of the defintion albums of classic rock. The album plays like a classic rock greatest hits album and pretty much every song is a classic rock classic. I hear people complain about Vital Signs but screw that, that song is fuckin awesome. Rush is one of my favourite bands and this is my favorite Rush album, so that should tell you how awesome it is

Kiss- Lick it Up. Now while Creatures of the Night is my favorite Kiss album, I think Lick it Up is a perfect beginning to the non make up years; which is a very underrated era of Kiss. This album continues the extra heaviness of Kiss and includes one of my favourite Kiss songs; the extremely underrated “Not for the Innocent”. 80s Kiss is major kick ass.

Joe Satriani- Not of this Earth. When it comes to guitar instrumental albums, I’m sure everyone on this thread has heard Surfing with the Alien. That’s my favorite guitar album but this one is 1a); this one seems to fall under the radar but I think it’s pretty much a perfect guitar album. It definitely has an 80s vibe but that’s what makes it awesome! It goes perfectly hand in hand with Surfing with the Alien :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2019, 02:24:59 AM: Alright 3 albums to start could work j. I will remind myself on the Rush and Satriani tomorrow as both are classics. Not a Kiss fan so this is a fine place for me to start.

Once the discussion dies off after a few days, someone else can post an album.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 28, 2019, 03:32:34 AM: Not a big Rush or Kiss fan, but that Satriani record is really good. A little bit more experimental and a little bit less polished/worked out songs than Surfing With The Alien but a great debut nonetheless. :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2019, 05:18:59 AM: Count me in. I'll have to try and find time to revisit these. in the coming days. I don't think I need a re-listen for Moving Pictures to comment on it. It's in my Top 10 of all time, and I've listened to countless times. Red Barchetta is my fave - the riff coming out of the solo will ALWAYS give me goosebumps. To this day, I still prefer the Show of Hands version of Witch Hunt over the studio. There's just something about the electronic drums in the live version. Seeing them do this live start to finish was the cats ass. Before the show started, I turned around to the person beside me and said "just so you know, I'll be standing during the entirety of Moving Pictures".
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2019, 02:19:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 28, 2019, 05:18:59 AM
Count me in. I'll have to try and find time to revisit these. in the coming days. I don't think I need a re-listen for Moving Pictures to comment on it. It's in my Top 10 of all time, and I've listened to countless times. Red Barchetta is my fave - the riff coming out of the solo will ALWAYS give me goosebumps. To this day, I still prefer the Show of Hands version of Witch Hunt over the studio. There's just something about the electronic drums in the live version. Seeing them do this live start to finish was the cats ass. Before the show started, I turned around to the person beside me and said "just so you know, I'll be standing during the entirety of Moving Pictures".

Since Jason started us off with 3 albums, I think we'll chew on these for a week or so and give everyone a chance to spin them.

This will be the first ever full length KISS albim.I have ever listened to.
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2019, 02:25:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 28, 2019, 02:19:58 PM
This will be the first ever full length KISS albim.I have ever listened to.

Get out of town!

I like Lick It Up well enough. This album was huge for them.

Exciter is a full on metal song, and On The Eighth Day is one of my all time favorite Gene songs.
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Post by: jammindude on December 28, 2019, 03:02:14 PM: Lick it Up is the definitive Vinnie Vincent album. That album is surprisingly heavy. It's very much "Creatures of the Night Part 2". It's just that they had damaged their brand so badly with the Dynasty-Unmasked-Elder run, that no one bothered to give Creatures a chance. They needed something to shake up the norm and get some attention back. Taking off the makeup on MTV was a brilliant move from a business aspect, and it is probably the main reason that people took notice again, and also the main reason Kiss survived.

The title track is really the only somewhat lame track on the album..and even that has a certain charm to it.

Nothing could be said about Moving Pictures that hasn't already been said. It's rare that to see a perfect marriage of artistic integrity, and commercial success. Usually an artist's most respected work is not their most successful. But once in awhile, the public gets it right. Moving Pictures is one of those times.

I've actually never heard Not of This Earth. I've heard Surfing, but the only Satriani albums I own are Flying in a Blue Dream and Crystal Planet. Love FiaBD. But CP is a disc that I got as a freebee while working in a CD shop and I think I've only spun it once or twice and I don't even recall what I thought. Maybe I will at least give it a spin this week just to honor the spirit of the thread.
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2019, 03:14:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 28, 2019, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 28, 2019, 02:19:58 PM
This will be the first ever full length KISS albim.I have ever listened to.

Get out of town!

I like Lick It Up well enough. This album was huge for them.

Exciter is a full on metal song, and On The Eighth Day is one of my all time favorite Gene songs.

I kid you not.
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2019, 07:06:41 PM: Boys, this is really quite solid. Just had a really enjoyable listen. Great classic style.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71hxtIEPDwL._SY355_.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 28, 2019, 11:00:36 PM: I’ve listened to a lot of the NWOBHM bands and besides the main ones, Tygers of Pan Tang stood out as one of the most talented. I think they changed their sound in the mid 80s but I don’t know tons about them, but I’ve liked everything I’ve heard.

My wild guess why they didn’t have more success would be the name of the band, which I think is pretty weak.
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 02:48:13 AM: Just about to listen to Lick it Up.
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 03:03:17 AM: I have never liked KISS, but.......I've never checked them out, so how can I say that?

Because they are popular and mainsteam?
Because Gene Simmons is an absolute flog?
Because I've never rated them as proper musicians?
Because of Paul's forever exposed fur jumper?
Because I've never liked their hits?

Probably all of the above. I guess their hits I don't really rate so I've never checked out a full album. This has only really dawned on me however with Jason bringing this one up, and this new format we're looking at is the perfect opportunity to check them out.

2 songs in and the opener is a ripper! Great classic metal tune. I've never really cared for Paul's voice but I don't dislike it, but I like how he pushes his range here. That sounds cool. Dunno anything about Vinnie but seems solid enough. Great opener.

Not for the Innocent was a great follow up. Almost a Y&T feel for me and a really nice hard rock tune. Is this Paul and Gene singing this one. I never really cared for Gene's voice though.

Which came first I wonder, the title track or Hot Blooded? This is the type of 80's rock style that I don't care for. It's these sorts of songs that I think shys me away from more of the classic hard rock bands of the 70's/80's. Nothing wrong with it, but meh.
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 03:13:39 AM: Young and Dangerous, wait is that Gene singing? Maybe I was wrong, great tune and really cool vox.

Gimme More sounds like a Van Halen/DLR song. Some nice leads on this. Vinnie seems like a solid rock guitarist.
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 03:34:20 AM: All Hell's Breaking Loose. Nah.

A Million to One. This is a great hard rock song. Lots to like about this one.

Fits Like A Glove. Gene's vocals are actually winning me over. Gave me a Footloose vibe at the start, but by the end, I thought this was a fucking cool song. Vinnie puts forward a nice lead with some great note selections towards the end of his solo. I love that chorus riff, with that root/b5 disonnance type chord. Really cool.
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 03:59:06 AM: Last two songs were just.....solid.

All in all I was pretty impressed. Some really cool shit going on with this album. Am I going to rush out and buy all their albums? no. But a very cool album indeed. Is this the heaviest KISS has ever gone?
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 29, 2019, 04:32:34 AM: The album before Lick it Up is their heaviest and best album IMO. Creatures of the Night. The title track and War Machine are major kick ass. Actually the whole album is. I would imagine they took it to the next level for heaviness due to the backlash of the Elder and Unmasked albums which I’ve only thought were decent. But the Creatures of the Night album is where it’s at :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 03:57:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 29, 2019, 04:32:34 AM
The album before Lick it Up is their heaviest and best album IMO. Creatures of the Night. The title track and War Machine are major kick ass. Actually the whole album is. I would imagine they took it to the next level for heaviness due to the backlash of the Elder and Unmasked albums which I’ve only thought were decent. But the Creatures of the Night album is where it’s at :metal

I'll check it out Jason.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 29, 2019, 04:06:49 PM: We’ve made Kade a KISS fan 😳🤘

LIU is a very good KISS album. Vinnie Vincent was a great songwriter and guitarist but just a failed human being. The first Vinnie Vincent Invasion album is awesome. So over the top.

Agree with Jason, Creatures is KiSS best album.
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 04:18:02 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 29, 2019, 04:06:49 PM
We’ve made Kade a KISS fan 😳🤘

LIU is a very good KISS album. Vinnie Vincent was a great songwriter and guitarist but just a failed human being. The first Vinnie Vincent Invasion album is awesome. So over the top.

Agree with Jason, Creatures is KiSS best album.

(https://i.imgflip.com/219lbr.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 04:18:46 PM: Vinnie failed as a human being?! :lol Man, dunno what that means but I'm intrigued.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 29, 2019, 04:22:16 PM: Just seems to have shot himself in the foot every time things were looking good. Sued KISS numerous times and lost, ripped off his fans by taking money for product he never sent. Disappeared off the face of the earth for 20 years. Oh, and kept dead dogs in his freezer.
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 04:25:34 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 29, 2019, 04:22:16 PM
Just seems to have shot himself in the foot every time things were looking good. Sued KISS numerous times and lost, ripped off his fans by taking money for product he never sent. Disappeared off the face of the earth for 20 years. Oh, and kept dead dogs in his freezer.

:o

Yeah.......okay then.
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2019, 04:44:36 PM: (https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2018/04/vincent.jpg?w=980&q=75)
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 29, 2019, 05:44:34 PM: It looks like the result if Al Bundy had a threesome with Rosanne and Golden Girl Dorothy.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/IIjH0wN7F3uzS/giphy.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 10:20:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 29, 2019, 04:44:36 PM
(https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2018/04/vincent.jpg?w=980&q=75)

Oh.............
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 29, 2019, 11:51:05 PM: Kade, make sure you at least check out the song War Machine. I believe there was even a growlie band that covered it.
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Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2019, 04:10:24 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 29, 2019, 11:51:05 PM
Kade, make sure you at least check out the song War Machine. I believe there was even a growlie band that covered it.

I'll check the whole album mate.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on December 30, 2019, 11:05:08 AM: If you're looking to check out one of KISS' heavier songs (and, coincidentally, also a Vinnie collaboration), definitely check out "Unholy" from Revenge (1992). It was released prior to the album coming out. After the first listen, I couldn't wait for the new album. It was also the first time a KISS song with a Gene vocal received a video since 1982 (Creatures Of The Night's "I Love It Loud"). It's a killer tune.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2019, 11:17:59 AM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on December 30, 2019, 11:05:08 AM
If you're looking to check out one of KISS' heavier songs (and, coincidentally, also a Vinnie collaboration), definitely check out "Unholy" from Revenge (1992). It was released prior to the album coming out. After the first listen, I couldn't wait for the new album. It was also the first time a KISS song with a Gene vocal received a video since 1982 (Creatures Of The Night's "I Love It Loud"). It's a killer tune.

That’s a fantastic song
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Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2019, 11:29:03 AM: I'll check that one too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2019, 03:04:52 PM: Total brain fart, but I somehow ended up clicking play with Destroyer this morning. Excellent album, naturally. I'll roll Lick It Up tomorrow. As for Satch... that was a really nice listen. Surfing with the Alien is all I really knew of Satch from that era, though I did pick up a compilation of his (Essential Joe Satriani) a couple years back. He's mostly hit-and-miss. Not of This Earth was easy on the ears, and a quick listen.

Like Kade said, it was cool shit, but I'm not sure how often I'll get back to them. Like most things JJ has exposed me to, I really wish I'd latched on to this upon release when I was younger.
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Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2019, 03:08:35 PM: Not of This Earth is a really impressive debut. I find Memories and Driving at Night 2 of my fav Satch songs, both are brilliant with a wonderful atmosphere. Rubina is of course classic and the title track and The Snake are highlights too. Really great album.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 30, 2019, 03:35:15 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 30, 2019, 03:08:35 PM
Not of This Earth is a really impressive debut. I find Memories and Driving at Night 2 of my fav Satch songs, both are brilliant with a wonderful atmosphere. Rubina is of course classic and the title track and The Snake are highlights too. Really great album.

Great album. I only picked it up because of the Vai connection, but thought it was amazing. Satch became a bit samey for me but I can put any of his albums on and enjoy them. I love his vocal tracks too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 02, 2020, 08:27:24 PM: I hope things are starting to get better in Australia for everyone.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 02, 2020, 08:49:56 PM: Rite? That's some scary fuckin shit goin on
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Post by: gazinwales on January 02, 2020, 09:30:25 PM: Not any better I'm afraid to say.
In fact tomorrow Saturday 4th is shaping up to be the worse day yet.
My area might have to be evacuated, I am packing a few things int eh car tonight incase we have to move at short notice.

This is just one area affected in just one state (NSW)
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/on-the-tele/nsw-bushfires-holidaymakers-flee-south-coast-ahead-of-more-bushfires/live-coverage/845c5b2365dbc1106bd662277b2da039
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 02, 2020, 09:52:37 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on January 02, 2020, 09:30:25 PM
Not any better I'm afraid to say.
In fact tomorrow Saturday 4th is shaping up to be the worse day yet.
My area might have to be evacuated, I am packing a few things int eh car tonight incase we have to move at short notice.

This is just one area affected in just one state (NSW)
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/on-the-tele/nsw-bushfires-holidaymakers-flee-south-coast-ahead-of-more-bushfires/live-coverage/845c5b2365dbc1106bd662277b2da039

Sorry to hear, thinking about all of you :)
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Post by: wolfking on January 02, 2020, 09:55:44 PM: Luckily not near me but it's fucking heartbreaking. Just diabolical. They say everything happens for a reason but there is absolutely no reason for this carnage and destruction. Our beautiful country is fucked.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2020, 12:46:24 AM: I think I predicted a few weeks back that we couldn't escape for long but even I didn't fathom what was coming.

We had bags packed and ready to leave (with 6 fire trucks camping overnight in our street) a few days back but fortunately didn't have to , although the fire near us is still burning. Deliberately lit of course , probably kids.

The stuff down in eastern Victoria and southern NSW is just mind blowing. A good friend of my sister lost her father a few days back and lots of tourists/holidaymakers risked it last week after being told to get out while the going was good and now we have tens of thousands stranded, thousands of houses/farms destroyed, 28 people dead/missing (in Victoria alone) and the military required to evacuate people by sea/air. The area burned is the size of a couple of small countries and it looks like getting worse again in coming days. Scary thing is Jan-March will be just as , if not hotter , than what we've just experienced.

Thanks for the wishes guys - it's impacting just about everyone I know in some form or another.
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2020, 04:30:58 AM: Jesus, thoughts and prayers Brent. Hopefully you can escape the worst of it in your area mate. That is way too close for comfort.

But yeah, December is normally the coolest of the summer months. The next 10 weeks could be even more catastrophic.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2020, 05:46:39 AM: Thanks mate. One other thing I should mention is the toll on animal life is estimated at half a BILLION :'(
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2020, 11:26:46 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 03, 2020, 05:46:39 AM
Thanks mate. One other thing I should mention is the toll on animal life is estimated at half a BILLION :'(

Yesterday morning at work, had a kookaburra fly in on the outside railing and hang there for a while. I got super close and he was friendly and chill. I got some meat and was able to feed him by hand he was that friendly. Was one of the coolest things and beautiful things I've ever experienced but at the same time made me almost cry thinking about the amount of these beautiful creatures plus all the others that have died from this. Absolute hell on earth. :'(
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Post by: cramx3 on January 03, 2020, 11:49:30 AM: damn, I guess being on the other side of the world I hadn't even noticed this was a thing, usually only hear about fires in California but this seems worse. Stay safe fellas
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 03, 2020, 01:55:22 PM: snatched this from Splent's FB page today

(https://i.redd.it/1m0bavm9gx741.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2020, 02:00:20 PM: It's shocking.

I don't normally read into politics and climate change and such, but what we are experiencing really makes you wonder.

480 million animals killed. There is simply no God.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 03, 2020, 02:03:10 PM: Considering Australia is filled with some of the worlds most dangerous animals, maybe there is a god. I kid :biggrin:

I never heard about the Siberian Fires before, I guess we don't mind when Russia burns. I kid :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on January 03, 2020, 02:09:54 PM: Stay safe Aussies. 🤞🏻
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Post by: Lowdz on January 03, 2020, 02:13:57 PM: We complain about it always raining here but there’s zero chance of us being in the same boat as you guys. It looks bloody awful. And to think morons are starting some of these on purpose 😡
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 03, 2020, 02:46:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 03, 2020, 02:00:20 PM
I don't normally read into politics and climate change and such, but what we are experiencing really makes you wonder.

There really isn't much to wonder. Humanity has been killing this planet for decades. The planet is finally fighting back. I say that mostly in jest, but essentially that is what's happening.
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Post by: TAC on January 03, 2020, 03:05:15 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 03, 2020, 01:55:22 PM
snatched this from Splent's FB page today

(https://i.redd.it/1m0bavm9gx741.jpg)

How are 480 million animals killed but only 13 people??

Stay safe guys.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 03, 2020, 03:11:55 PM: I'm sure a lot of that land is where many animals and less humans who have a greater intelligence to not get trapped live. Just my guess. I dont think the koala's saw the news and got in their car to safety :biggrin: I'm sure there's lots of animal instinct but when the fires are that bad, there's not much that can be done if you are stuck in it all. Reminds me of Bambi. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3iK3rJUfU)
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Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2020, 04:10:39 PM: Thanks for the thoughts guys - I think our area is likely fine from here but in the worst areas............well here's today's morning news headline

(https://i.postimg.cc/3wsVVMHs/fire.jpg)

Anyway...........the colour of that map has made me think of JP's Firepower :\ ..........time for some music. :)
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2020, 11:31:34 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on January 03, 2020, 03:11:55 PM
I'm sure a lot of that land is where many animals and less humans who have a greater intelligence to not get trapped live. Just my guess. I dont think the koala's saw the news and got in their car to safety :biggrin: I'm sure there's lots of animal instinct but when the fires are that bad, there's not much that can be done if you are stuck in it all. Reminds me of Bambi. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3iK3rJUfU)

Do you guys really think we ride kangaroos to work?

This is bushland that sparks and spreads like literally wildfire. Where are the koalas suppose to go, and the rate it spreads, how can they escape? They kind of can't out run it.
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2020, 01:24:04 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 03, 2020, 02:46:36 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 03, 2020, 02:00:20 PM
I don't normally read into politics and climate change and such, but what we are experiencing really makes you wonder.

There really isn't much to wonder. Humanity has been killing this planet for decades. The planet is finally fighting back. I say that mostly in jest, but essentially that is what's happening.

Yeah, I think that too, was just trying to not be too blatant haha.
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2020, 02:25:03 AM: To change the mood a little, going back to teh three albums Jason featured, I haven't spoken about Rush yet. I guess, to be honest, I never really understood the legendary status of this album. I always have much preferred Signals, GUP and PW. It's fine, but I've never been blown away by Limelight and TS. Barchetta also I never really loved that much. Witch Hunt is cool and YYZ is of course an instrumental classic. I'd have to remind myself on Camera and Vital Signs too if I'm being totally honest.
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Post by: Evermind on January 05, 2020, 04:08:14 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 03, 2020, 11:31:34 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on January 03, 2020, 03:11:55 PM
I'm sure a lot of that land is where many animals and less humans who have a greater intelligence to not get trapped live. Just my guess. I dont think the koala's saw the news and got in their car to safety :biggrin: I'm sure there's lots of animal instinct but when the fires are that bad, there's not much that can be done if you are stuck in it all. Reminds me of Bambi. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3iK3rJUfU)

Do you guys really think we ride kangaroos to work?

Do you not? We ride bears to work.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2020, 05:46:29 AM: Quote from: Evermind on January 05, 2020, 04:08:14 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 03, 2020, 11:31:34 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on January 03, 2020, 03:11:55 PM
I'm sure a lot of that land is where many animals and less humans who have a greater intelligence to not get trapped live. Just my guess. I dont think the koala's saw the news and got in their car to safety :biggrin: I'm sure there's lots of animal instinct but when the fires are that bad, there's not much that can be done if you are stuck in it all. Reminds me of Bambi. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3iK3rJUfU)

Do you guys really think we ride kangaroos to work?

Do you not? We ride bears to work.

Moose over here.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 05, 2020, 11:25:44 AM: Longhorns for us
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 02:49:51 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2020, 02:25:03 AM
To change the mood a little, going back to teh three albums Jason featured, I haven't spoken about Rush yet. I guess, to be honest, I never really understood the legendary status of this album. I always have much preferred Signals, GUP and PW. It's fine, but I've never been blown away by Limelight and TS. Barchetta also I never really loved that much. Witch Hunt is cool and YYZ is of course an instrumental classic. I'd have to remind myself on Camera and Vital Signs too if I'm being totally honest.

Play it again, from beginning to end. Absolute classic album.
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2020, 03:16:43 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 05, 2020, 02:25:03 AM
To change the mood a little, going back to teh three albums Jason featured, I haven't spoken about Rush yet. I guess, to be honest, I never really understood the legendary status of this album. I always have much preferred Signals, GUP and PW. It's fine, but I've never been blown away by Limelight and TS. Barchetta also I never really loved that much. Witch Hunt is cool and YYZ is of course an instrumental classic. I'd have to remind myself on Camera and Vital Signs too if I'm being totally honest.

Play it again, from beginning to end. Absolute classic album.

Alright, will do boss.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 04:28:57 PM: :tup :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal trust me
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 04:42:29 PM: For those who haven’t quite gotten Moving Pictures (wolfster), go to YouTube and watch the videos of Limelight and Tom Sawyer. It’s something about those two videos filmed it that cabin with the snowy background that just hits home (Canada), but I think will help hit home how awesome that album is for everyone else. After watching those two videos then play the album in it’s entirety. If you don’t dig it after that, than I have no further advice lol
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2020, 04:44:17 PM: I didn't think it was possible to not "get" Moving Pictures.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 04:49:07 PM: This is my last bit of advice and guidance to Wolfarama. If he doesn’t get the awesomeness of Moving Pictures after this advice, then it’s over lol
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2020, 05:20:10 PM: OK..just listened to Turbo.

Guys, WTF are you talking about?? This album blows such big fucking chunks. The only song that approaches not sucking is Reckless.

As for Ram It Down, just blew through that as well. Other than the title track, and maybe Blood Red Skies, I would have to say that this album sucks too. What fucking band is this? If this album was released by any no name band, it would be laughed off into eternity. Because it has the Judas Priest name on it actually makes it worse IMO.

These two albums show a band that was absolfuckinglutely lost.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 05:29:11 PM: Cmon Timster you can’t say it blows chunks when you’ve jumped from the classic rock crowd into this growlie stuff you listen to now!! Turbo is a sign of the times but it’s still a great rock album. Turbo Lover, Locked In, Out in the Cold, Hot for Love and Reckless are classics!! I haven’t listened to your growlie songs admittedly, but I would bet money they aren’t as awesome as Hot for Love. That’s my honest guess
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2020, 05:31:53 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 05:29:11 PM
Cmon Timster you can’t say it blows chunks when you’ve jumped from the classic rock crowd into this growlie stuff you listen to now!! Turbo is a sign of the times but it’s still a great rock album. Turbo Lover, Locked In, Out in the Cold, Hot for Love and Reckless are classics!! I haven’t listened to your growlie songs admittedly, but I would bet money they aren’t as awesome as Hot for Love. That’s my honest guess

A sign of the times? Plenty of bands released great albums in 1986. Of course plenty of bands didn't, and Judas Priest is one of them.

You know how bad Turbo is? I would take Power Windows over it 200 times over 100.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 05:36:20 PM: Fair enough but I’m listening to Turbo and Ram it Down and Power Windows 100000000000000000000000000x over these growlie things (I can’t even make out the names/logos).
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2020, 05:37:57 PM: I did see the Turbo tour though.

June 4, 1986
Providence Civic Center

(https://i.imgur.com/GzO7FXm.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 05:42:51 PM: That’s a great concert video!!

And nobody can deny the awesomeness of Heavy Metal Parking Lot from this tour (not even Tim)
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2020, 05:46:19 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 05:42:51 PM
That’s a great concert video!!

And nobody can deny the awesomeness of Heavy Metal Parking Lot from this tour (not even Tim)

I love Heavy Metal Parking Lot. Those are my people! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 05:50:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2020, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 05:42:51 PM
That’s a great concert video!!

And nobody can deny the awesomeness of Heavy Metal Parking Lot from this tour (not even Tim)

I love Heavy Metal Parking Lot. Those are my people! :lol

:metal :metal :metal that’s the Tim I know
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2020, 06:00:47 PM: Hey, I roamed those parking lots back in the day. Such a great time.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 06:04:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2020, 06:00:47 PM
Hey, I roamed those parking lots back in the day. Such a great time.

I’m willing to bet $50,000 right now that no 1986 Camaro was blasting growlie shit while you roamed the parking lots looking for ladies in acid wash jeans lol
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2020, 06:10:57 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2020, 06:00:47 PM
Hey, I roamed those parking lots back in the day. Such a great time.

I’m willing to bet $50,000 right now that no 1986 Camaro was blasting growlie shit while you roamed the parking lots looking for ladies in acid wash jeans lol

Jason, I've posted this pic before, but this was me in 1986.

(https://i.imgur.com/euw06Rz.jpg)

Iron Maiden bumper sticker
Black AND red laces on my Nike high tops
Pooka bead necklace. :lol
Kind of mullet. :lol :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 06:13:12 PM: Tim of August 1986 is cool
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2020, 06:17:50 PM: Here's a pic of me and my friends after the Priest concert outside of the Civic Center.

(https://i.imgur.com/1E5Tkj5.jpg)

I'm on the left with my Piece Of Mind tour shirt. The two kids on the right were two of me best friends, and the kid holding his nuts was one of their cousins. And yes, he was as big of an asshole as he looks.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 06:22:27 PM: I was about to ask why that guy was grabbing his nuts but you answered the question. I believe Dokken opened for Priest on this tour. How was the show? I’ve watched Priest Live and it was a great video
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2020, 06:36:58 PM: Yes, Dokken did open.

I have posted this before too. Don Dokken was standing very close to us during Priest's set.

(https://i.imgur.com/G9oHrii.jpg)

So obviously this was my first time seeing Priest. I thought they were great. I wasn't a fan of Turbo at the time, but I knew I wanted to see them. I did skip the Ram It Down tour though.

Dokken was a great live band. I always thought their albums didn't have enough depth, and live, the songs just seemed better. Jeff Pilson was always great on stage. I always thought Don Dokken was a douche. I saw them in 86 (opening for JP), 87 (opening for Aerosmith), and 88 (MOR tour). His stage banter blew.
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Post by: wolfking on January 06, 2020, 04:02:57 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2020, 06:10:57 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 05, 2020, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2020, 06:00:47 PM
Hey, I roamed those parking lots back in the day. Such a great time.

I’m willing to bet $50,000 right now that no 1986 Camaro was blasting growlie shit while you roamed the parking lots looking for ladies in acid wash jeans lol

Jason, I've posted this pic before, but this was me in 1986.

(https://i.imgur.com/euw06Rz.jpg)

Iron Maiden bumper sticker
Black AND red laces on my Nike high tops
Pooka bead necklace. :lol
Kind of mullet. :lol :lol

Are you sure it wasn't 1985? Where's Doc? Was he taking the picture?
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 06, 2020, 04:43:44 AM: :rollin
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Post by: TAC on January 06, 2020, 07:09:15 PM: So I figured I'd put this here instead of the album thread.

Just ran through:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/59/Mot%C3%B6rhead_-_Bomber_%281979%29.jpg/220px-Mot%C3%B6rhead_-_Bomber_%281979%29.jpg)

Eddie Clarke is really good on this. He has some great solos. I love how this is tracked, where you can clearly hear Eddie and Lemmy, and how they intertwine with each other. This album is really easy on the ears. Love it. Good stuff!
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Post by: wolfking on January 06, 2020, 07:57:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 06, 2020, 07:09:15 PM
So I figured I'd put this here instead of the album thread.

Just ran through:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/59/Mot%C3%B6rhead_-_Bomber_%281979%29.jpg/220px-Mot%C3%B6rhead_-_Bomber_%281979%29.jpg)

Eddie Clarke is really good on this. He has some great solos. I love how this is tracked, where you can clearly hear Eddie and Lemmy, and how they intertwine with each other. This album is really easy on the ears. Love it. Good stuff!

We can make this the next album for our hard rock classic album discussion. I was always a very casual Motorhead fan and have a few of their albums. Don't think I have this one, but will add it to the long list to listen to.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 06, 2020, 08:12:13 PM: Tim, what would you rank as the top three Motörhead albums?
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 03:51:18 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 06, 2020, 07:57:35 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 06, 2020, 07:09:15 PM
So I figured I'd put this here instead of the album thread.

Just ran through:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/59/Mot%C3%B6rhead_-_Bomber_%281979%29.jpg/220px-Mot%C3%B6rhead_-_Bomber_%281979%29.jpg)

Eddie Clarke is really good on this. He has some great solos. I love how this is tracked, where you can clearly hear Eddie and Lemmy, and how they intertwine with each other. This album is really easy on the ears. Love it. Good stuff!

We can make this the next album for our hard rock classic album discussion. I was always a very casual Motorhead fan and have a few of their albums. Don't think I have this one, but will add it to the long list to listen to.

Ha. Went through my collection and I have a 2cd deluxe edition! This can go in the car tomorrow.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 07, 2020, 05:46:30 AM: I can't say I've ever listened to a Motörhead album. Guess this is where I'm starting.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 07, 2020, 10:52:16 AM: I used to like Motorhead but apart from Killed By Death I haven’t heard anything after Iron Fist. I outgrew Lemmy”s voice pretty quickly but at the time there was very little metal around.

No Sleep til Hammersmith is a classic live album though.

Ace of Spades would be my favourite studio album by them and it’s decades since I listened to Bomber.

I do have a best of on my best of memory stick but I do tend to just go for the hits. And they were hits in the UK.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 07, 2020, 11:01:33 AM: I've never listened to a Motorhead album either and honestly Lemmy's voice is not what I like to listen to at all. It's really prevented me from ever trying more than a few singles.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 07, 2020, 12:36:32 PM: The only Motörhead albums I’ve bought are Ace of Spades, No Sleep til Hammersmith, Motorizer and a couple of best ofs. I will say that whenever Ace of Spades comes on, that’s an immediate crank the volume up.
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2020, 01:13:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 06, 2020, 08:12:13 PM
Tim, what would you rank as the top three Motörhead albums?

I do think it's fair to say Ace Of Spades is the best of the Classic Lemmy/Eddie/Philthy Era.

My Go To Motorhead album is Orgasmatron. I also really like Another Perfect Day, the album with Brian Robertson. There's a great King Biscuit CD from that lineup.

I really like Rock N Roll, Aftershock, and their final album, Bad Magic.

That last album is really good. Similar to how Heart Attack quite prophetically ends Thin Lizzy's Thunder & Lightning, the final song on Bad Magic is When The sky Comes Looking For You...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEhBa-QZhM
It made my Top 31 of the Last Decade.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 02:29:03 PM: Just put Bomber into the cd this morning.

I really can only pinpoint a few albums. From what I own, Inferno was cool from what I remember and 1916 was good. We Are Motorhead is decent too. One More Fucking Time is a great song.
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2020, 03:16:39 PM: Great Woods
Mansfield, Ma
August 14, 1991

(1916 tour)

(https://i.imgur.com/91L7TtN.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 03:38:04 PM: :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 07:55:57 PM: Had a listen to Bomber and it was cool. Nothing that blows me away but never been a massive Motorhead fan. It's fun and refreshing blasting something like this in the car which I never do. Organic sound, just 3 guys playing some rock. Yeah, Eddie has some nice blues rock solos going on and track 8 I think that has the long opening solo is very cool.

One thing I did like was the subtle key changes in the songs. They work in really well and keep things pretty fresh. Stone Dead Forver is of course classic but forgot how much of a cracker this was. Poisin I think it must be called also was a ripper.
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2020, 08:05:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 07:55:57 PM
Had a listen to Bomber and it was cool. Nothing that blows me away but never been a massive Motorhead fan. It's fun and refreshing blasting something like this in the car which I never do. Organic sound, just 3 guys playing some rock. Yeah, Eddie has some nice blues rock solos going on and track 8 I think that has the long opening solo is very cool.

One thing I did like was the subtle key changes in the songs. They work in really well and keep things pretty fresh. Stone Dead Forver is of course classic but forgot how much of a cracker this was. Poisin I think it must be called also was a ripper.

Exactly.

I mean you pretty much know what every Motorhead album is. But to me, whenever I feel like I need to hit the "reset button", I usually reach for some Motorhead. It's kind of a Metal soul cleansing. Like getting an oil change. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 08:10:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 07, 2020, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 07:55:57 PM
Had a listen to Bomber and it was cool. Nothing that blows me away but never been a massive Motorhead fan. It's fun and refreshing blasting something like this in the car which I never do. Organic sound, just 3 guys playing some rock. Yeah, Eddie has some nice blues rock solos going on and track 8 I think that has the long opening solo is very cool.

One thing I did like was the subtle key changes in the songs. They work in really well and keep things pretty fresh. Stone Dead Forver is of course classic but forgot how much of a cracker this was. Poisin I think it must be called also was a ripper.

Exactly.

I mean you pretty much know what every Motorhead album is. But to me, whenever I feel like I need to hit the "reset button", I usually reach for some Motorhead. It's kind of a Metal soul cleansing. Like getting an oil change. :lol

Jason likes this comment.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 08:12:05 PM: Moving Pictures just went in as I reached my final work destination for the day. This will be the soundtrack for my ride home
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2020, 08:13:10 PM: Red Barchetta is my #1 Rush tune.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 08:14:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 07, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
Red Barchetta is my #1 Rush tune.

I just never got the hype for this song. I see it ranked so high for people but I'm clearly missing something. We'll see.
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2020, 08:23:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 08:14:22 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 07, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
Red Barchetta is my #1 Rush tune.

I just never got the hype for this song. I see it ranked so high for people but I'm clearly missing something. We'll see.

Honestly it has a personal meaning for me. This came out when I was like 12, and my grandfather passed away around this time. I was close with him, and when Geddy sings about his "uncle's place", it reminds me of my relationship with my grandfather. I love the imagery of the "goes screaming through the valley" line. It's just about a time of innocence with someone you love and a time you miss.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 08:48:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 07, 2020, 08:23:32 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2020, 08:14:22 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 07, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
Red Barchetta is my #1 Rush tune.

I just never got the hype for this song. I see it ranked so high for people but I'm clearly missing something. We'll see.

Honestly it has a personal meaning for me. This came out when I was like 12, and my grandfather passed away around this time. I was close with him, and when Geddy sings about his "uncle's place", it reminds me of my relationship with my grandfather. I love the imagery of the "goes screaming through the valley" line. It's just about a time of innocence with someone you love and a time you miss.

Nice. It's great when songs have such nostalgia and such a sentimental meaning.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 07, 2020, 09:50:49 PM: I have never managed to get into Rush or Motorhead , although Killed By Death has to be contender for best song title of all time :lol

I had a listen to Red Barchetta and yeah...........I can find some things to like about the music but I have always struggled with Geddy's vocals and the lyrics seem very "random" if that's the word - they may tell a story but seem to have very little rhythmic structure. That's actually one thing I always struggled with on SFAM - compared to I&W where I felt the lyrics were mostly a perfect fit for the music , I felt that for SFAM they had a bunch of story-lyrics that needed to be used whether they fit the music or not.

Anyway.............I realise I am the odd one out with Rush (and SFAM) around here. I had a few submissions in my roulette that I didn't mind but I'd had enough of Red Barchetta half way through.

I will take a quick listen to some songs off Bomber soon and see if they grab me.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 08, 2020, 01:06:49 AM: I'm only a casual Motorhead fan, I have Ace Of Spades of course and I know a couple of other songs, but I always felt that that was all the Motorhead I needed. Maybe I will give those others mentioned here a spin.

Same goes for Rush, a couple of tunes are good, but I haven't (yet) heard the greatness everyone is talking about.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2020, 02:31:56 AM: So I am not the only one :hifive:
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Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2020, 04:45:37 AM: Okay, Moving Pictures was actually a lot better running the whole way through. I still am totally missing the love for RB. I think that song being at number 2 always just didn't sit well with me in regards to the album and it's flow and I think caused my somewhat underwhelmed opinion. I just don't find the song memeroable at all and there's not much in there I can say I really enjoy.

TS and Limelight are fucking brilliant. Just amazing songs, really. Camera was cool but didn't hold my attention but I think if I gave it more attention it would be a grower. YYZ is a wonderful instrumental piece. Witch Hunt is very nice and something different and I loved Vital Signs. That's one song I never gave any attention too but it's a wonderful song.

Based on its strengths, it's a top album. It just feels so short, with 7 songs it feels there should be one more longer type tune. I really want to get the fuss over RB, but I can't at this stage.
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Post by: TAC on January 08, 2020, 07:49:51 PM: Stumbled upon this tonight.

The epitome of classic hard rock and heavy metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcx3OjNMlu4
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on January 08, 2020, 08:09:12 PM: I had no idea this song existed.

https://youtu.be/4ZrF76MuF0w

the bass and drum work...just...crazy.
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Post by: TAC on January 08, 2020, 08:14:58 PM: I don't get it.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2020, 08:32:03 PM: Every thread I have posted in today has Tim saying he doesn't understand anything.

I think he is right.
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Post by: TAC on January 08, 2020, 08:33:17 PM: :lol

What do you mean?

:lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2020, 04:16:09 AM: :rollin
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Post by: cramx3 on January 09, 2020, 08:25:52 AM: Hey Tim, in case you didn't snag a ticket for the stadium tour at sold out fenway park, they just added a second date there :lol
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Post by: TAC on January 09, 2020, 10:53:35 AM: Oh boy, was I wrong. :lol
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Post by: cramx3 on January 09, 2020, 10:57:53 AM: :lol Im quite amazed, figured it would do well but not this well.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 09, 2020, 11:47:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 08, 2020, 04:45:37 AM
Okay, Moving Pictures was actually a lot better running the whole way through. I still am totally missing the love for RB. I think that song being at number 2 always just didn't sit well with me in regards to the album and it's flow and I think caused my somewhat underwhelmed opinion. I just don't find the song memeroable at all and there's not much in there I can say I really enjoy.

TS and Limelight are fucking brilliant. Just amazing songs, really. Camera was cool but didn't hold my attention but I think if I gave it more attention it would be a grower. YYZ is a wonderful instrumental piece. Witch Hunt is very nice and something different and I loved Vital Signs. That's one song I never gave any attention too but it's a wonderful song.

Based on its strengths, it's a top album. It just feels so short, with 7 songs it feels there should be one more longer type tune. I really want to get the fuss over RB, but I can't at this stage.

You surprise me Kade. MP is awesome. I love Red Barchetta. The story appealed to me as a kid into sci fi and I just love the song. However, Vital Signs (and the other reggae shit on Signals) is a big steaming turd not worthy to grace such a great album.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 09, 2020, 11:49:54 AM: Quote from: YtseBitsySpider on January 08, 2020, 08:09:12 PM
I had no idea this song existed.

https://youtu.be/4ZrF76MuF0w

the bass and drum work...just...crazy.

I believe Frontiers have signed him up for an album with Alessandro. Whoops, wrong thread 😀
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Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2020, 02:21:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2020, 07:49:51 PM
Stumbled upon this tonight.

The epitome of classic hard rock and heavy metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcx3OjNMlu4

Very cool performance.
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Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2020, 02:23:00 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 09, 2020, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 08, 2020, 04:45:37 AM
Okay, Moving Pictures was actually a lot better running the whole way through. I still am totally missing the love for RB. I think that song being at number 2 always just didn't sit well with me in regards to the album and it's flow and I think caused my somewhat underwhelmed opinion. I just don't find the song memeroable at all and there's not much in there I can say I really enjoy.

TS and Limelight are fucking brilliant. Just amazing songs, really. Camera was cool but didn't hold my attention but I think if I gave it more attention it would be a grower. YYZ is a wonderful instrumental piece. Witch Hunt is very nice and something different and I loved Vital Signs. That's one song I never gave any attention too but it's a wonderful song.

Based on its strengths, it's a top album. It just feels so short, with 7 songs it feels there should be one more longer type tune. I really want to get the fuss over RB, but I can't at this stage.

You surprise me Kade. MP is awesome. I love Red Barchetta. The story appealed to me as a kid into sci fi and I just love the song. However, Vital Signs (and the other reggae shit on Signals) is a big steaming turd not worthy to grace such a great album.

haha, sorry to let you down Paul. Funny our opinions here are the complete opposite. Yeah, as I said it's a really good album and better than I remembered, I just have always preferred the couple of later albums.
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Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2020, 02:24:49 PM: Quote from: YtseBitsySpider on January 08, 2020, 08:09:12 PM
I had no idea this song existed.

https://youtu.be/4ZrF76MuF0w

the bass and drum work...just...crazy.

I'm not sure why you posted this jazz fusion piece, but neverthelss, it was very good.
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Post by: YtseBitsySpider on January 10, 2020, 06:28:59 AM: There wasn’t anywhere else to post it. But when you think Gino Vanelli that’s NOT what comes to mind
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2020, 12:09:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 09, 2020, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2020, 07:49:51 PM
Stumbled upon this tonight.

The epitome of classic hard rock and heavy metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcx3OjNMlu4

Very cool performance.

:metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 04:12:36 PM: Quote from: YtseBitsySpider on January 10, 2020, 06:28:59 AM
There wasn’t anywhere else to post it. But when you think Gino Vanelli that’s NOT what comes to mind

Ah, that makes more sense. Never heard of him.
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Post by: TAC on January 10, 2020, 04:16:24 PM: It doesn't make any sense. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 04:19:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2020, 04:16:24 PM
It doesn't make any sense. :lol

:lol

I'm guessing he's some 80's rock/aor type singer? Could google him I guess. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 04:57:24 PM: Sorry to hear about Neil Peart guys. As you know I have minimal attachment to Rush but I know it'll have an impact on plenty of you blokes for whom Rush has been a huge part of your lives. :'(
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Post by: TAC on January 10, 2020, 05:06:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 04:57:24 PM
Sorry to hear about Neil Peart guys. As you know I have minimal attachment to Rush but I know it'll have an impact on plenty of you blokes for whom Rush has been a huge part of your lives.

Rush was a very early influence on me, and their stuff up through Moving Pictures is some of my all time favorite music. But I've been relatively detached from them over the years. I've already spun Hemispheres and Fly By Night, but I'm not about to go on a discog run.

I go into a major Rush mode once every 12-18 months, and who knows, this may kick one of those off, but I'm not quite feeling that at the moment.

When I first saw and heard Dream Theater in 1992, I always said that this was the music Rush should be playing.
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 05:14:19 PM: I got into Rush late, and I think it was DTF that got me into them. Had a big binge discovering all their music and as Tim, go back to them from time to time. I wouldn't class them as a top 10 band, but considering my collection, having Rush and all their albums in there, really says something. Whenever I need something fresh and different, Rush is there.

I guess I'm a little different as I didn't really dig a lot of their earlier stuff. I much prefered Grace Under Pressure forward until Counterparts. That's the Rush sound for me. Neil passing away is absolutely tragic.
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Post by: TAC on January 10, 2020, 05:22:50 PM: I would rate Pre Signals Rush as a Top 10 band easily. I was a metal teenager so their 80's stuff kind of turned me away. And frankly, I think they slept walked from 1991 on.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2020, 05:43:53 PM: Thank you Neil

Rush is the best, what an amazing band. I think it’s safe to say many of us will be playing nothing but Rush this weekend
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 05:44:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2020, 05:22:50 PM
I would rate Pre Signals Rush as a Top 10 band easily. I was a metal teenager so their 80's stuff kind of turned me away. And frankly, I think they slept walked from 1991 on.

I think it's great that they do have two distinct eras that people really can choose from.
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 05:53:03 PM: It's kind of funny the random Rush talk we just had in regards to Moving Pictures. I think the next albums in our classic hard rock 2020 discussions will be all pre Moving Pictures Rush. I need to revisit some of these.
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Post by: TAC on January 10, 2020, 05:57:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 05:53:03 PM
It's kind of funny the random Rush talk we just had in regards to Moving Pictures.

Let's all make a pact right now...

...we will not be discussing any Iron Maiden album. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 06:03:42 PM: *shakes hand*
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Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 06:56:23 PM: Just out of interest Kade, have you ever heard Rush on local radio in your life?

EDIT: just listened to 2112 Pt 1 based on JJ's album post ("I'll try one last time........") and I quite like it :lol - pretty heavy for the time. I have sampled plenty of Rush (mostly 80's) and never got across the line - either never found anything that was catchy enough or struggled with Geddy's voice, but there you go. Perhaps I have found my era and I normally DON"T like 70's stuff as a rule. ::)

The question above for Kade was because I don't think I have ever heard Rush on radio out here. Perhaps if I had grown up hearing them on the radio .........
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Post by: TAC on January 10, 2020, 07:44:09 PM: Brent, I think 2112, Hemispheres, and Permanent Waves, even A Farewell To Kings don't really have a lot in common with "70's music".

These are some of my favorite albums.

I basically became aware of Rush by hearing Tom Sawyer and Limelight on the radio.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2020, 07:49:56 PM: In Canada, I believe there is a 30% Canadian content quota on radio. It might not be that exact number but it’s close. Maybe Chad can confirm this for me. So basically every hour on Canadian rock radio you can expect to hear Rush, Hip, Loverboy, Triumph.

But seriously Rush is such an outstanding band and if their music clicks with you and you get Rush, it connects big time. Out of all the music I’ve heard, I’ve said it before, but the song “Subdivisions” is my all time favorite song.

I’ve heard it many times before where someone has said to me that they don’t like Rush based on Geddys voice or they don’t get the band. I tell them that I am a mega fan but don’t question their opinion. But inside I always say to myself that it’s unfortunate you don’t get this amazing band.

Rush f@&$ing Rules :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 07:53:52 PM: I think they will be a band where many times I won't be able to get past Geddy's voice (and/or not enough "hooks") and others I will be alright , but that makes it hard to get through an album. I don't mind Tom Sawyer but yeah...........that's one of the songs where I was a bit all over the place and a good representation of why I never fully got into Rush. I like the main hook , found Geddy's vocals a bit irritating in some parts and not others , thought the guitar solo was pretty random/meaningless .

Just listened to Limelight too - liked most of it too. There might be hope for me yet Jay :lol. A couple of tiny parts in there brought me back to WDADU - perhaps that's weird, perhaps not.

I see most of the guys I grew up with in melodic rock circles are spinning Time Stand Still :lol - they certainly didn't stand still with their sound.
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Post by: TAC on January 10, 2020, 07:56:18 PM: Jason, who in the hell is Hip? :lol
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Post by: Anguyen92 on January 10, 2020, 07:57:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2020, 07:56:18 PM
Jason, who in the hell is Hip? :lol

I think he meant The Tragically Hip.

In fact, I searched their wiki, their nickname was also The Hip. "The Tragically Hip, often referred to simply as The Hip, were a Canadian rock band from Kingston, Ontario, consisting of vocalist Gord Downie, guitarist Paul Langlois, guitarist Rob Baker (known as Bobby Baker until 1994), bassist Gord Sinclair, and drummer Johnny Fay."
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Post by: gazinwales on January 10, 2020, 08:07:36 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 06:56:23 PM
Just out of interest Kade, have you ever heard Rush on local radio in your life?

EDIT: just listened to 2112 Pt 1 based on JJ's album post ("I'll try one last time........") and I quite like it :lol - pretty heavy for the time. I have sampled plenty of Rush (mostly 80's) and never got across the line - either never found anything that was catchy enough or struggled with Geddy's voice, but there you go. Perhaps I have found my era and I normally DON"T like 70's stuff as a rule. ::)

The question above for Kade was because I don't think I have ever heard Rush on radio out here. Perhaps if I had grown up hearing them on the radio .........

I do remember hearing Rush on 2MMM in Sydney during the 1980's. I think they were playing 'Time Stand Still' quite a bit and I am sure they also played 'The Pass' a few times.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 08:14:10 PM: Righto Gaz.............just checked out The Pass and don't believe I have heard it in my life - quite liked it actually for what it is and prefer Geddy in his lower register. Time Stand Still might be the one in terms of radio play here in Melbourne - sounds vaguely familiar.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2020, 08:31:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2020, 07:56:18 PM
Jason, who in the hell is Hip? :lol

I’m not really a fan but probably the biggest band in the history of Canadian music

Within Canada I should add.
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 11:41:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 06:56:23 PM
Just out of interest Kade, have you ever heard Rush on local radio in your life?

EDIT: just listened to 2112 Pt 1 based on JJ's album post ("I'll try one last time........") and I quite like it :lol - pretty heavy for the time. I have sampled plenty of Rush (mostly 80's) and never got across the line - either never found anything that was catchy enough or struggled with Geddy's voice, but there you go. Perhaps I have found my era and I normally DON"T like 70's stuff as a rule. ::)

The question above for Kade was because I don't think I have ever heard Rush on radio out here. Perhaps if I had grown up hearing them on the radio .........

No, never. Never heard of them until DTF I believe. Never met anyone mention them and I worked in a music store when I was younger and knew a few drummers.

Never heard them mentioned in the media or anything here. A shame if you ask me.
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 11:44:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 08:14:10 PM
Righto Gaz.............just checked out The Pass and don't believe I have heard it in my life - quite liked it actually for what it is and prefer Geddy in his lower register. Time Stand Still might be the one in terms of radio play here in Melbourne - sounds vaguely familiar.

The Pass is wonderful. I guess I don't really count because I'm a bit younger. I started listening to the radio as soon as I could remember, 1990 or so onwards but yeah even the 80's for only 2 songs to get minimal airplay is crazy.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 10, 2020, 11:55:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 11:41:37 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 06:56:23 PM
Just out of interest Kade, have you ever heard Rush on local radio in your life?

EDIT: just listened to 2112 Pt 1 based on JJ's album post ("I'll try one last time........") and I quite like it :lol - pretty heavy for the time. I have sampled plenty of Rush (mostly 80's) and never got across the line - either never found anything that was catchy enough or struggled with Geddy's voice, but there you go. Perhaps I have found my era and I normally DON"T like 70's stuff as a rule. ::)

The question above for Kade was because I don't think I have ever heard Rush on radio out here. Perhaps if I had grown up hearing them on the radio .........

No, never. Never heard of them until DTF I believe. Never met anyone mention them and I worked in a music store when I was younger and knew a few drummers.

Never heard them mentioned in the media or anything here. A shame if you ask me.

That’s mind boggling.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 11:58:17 PM: I just checked and Rush has never played in Australia either.
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Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2020, 02:08:38 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 11:58:17 PM
I just checked and Rush has never played in Australia either.

I thought so. Another big shame.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 11, 2020, 05:53:47 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 10, 2020, 07:49:56 PM
In Canada, I believe there is a 30% Canadian content quota on radio. It might not be that exact number but it’s close. Maybe Chad can confirm this for me. So basically every hour on Canadian rock radio you can expect to hear Rush, Hip, Loverboy, Triumph.

Present rule is 60% annually; 50% daily. And "Canadian Content" can be more than just the artist/band - it can be the writer, producers etc... so for all the stuff that Bryan Adams has ever written for anyone, well that qualifies.

And to be more clear for Tim, it's The Tragically Hip. We Canadians simply know them as 'The Hip'.

It's gonna be all Rush for me for a few days - albums, concerts, interviews... anything. This one is tough to take... harder than when Gord Downie passed (lead singer and writer for The Hip) a couple of years ago. Ironically, from a brain tumour.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 11, 2020, 10:03:09 AM: I too never heard Rush on the radio and I think Rush is one of those bands that are big in North America, but not so big in the rest of the world. When I was young, no one that I knew had a Rush record, although we were all over rock and prog and metal. We knew the name but didn't know the music. And I'm not sure if they toured Germany or Europe in the last 30 years.

That said it's still sad to hear of Peart's passing. Tremendous drummer and a definite loss to music in general.
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Post by: Anguyen92 on January 11, 2020, 10:36:34 AM: They've toured Europe a few times when they were doing their "An Evening With" format. I think they were in Europe for R30, Snakes and Arrows, Time Machine, and Clockwork Angels. Those were not big runs in Europe that I know of though.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 11, 2020, 11:39:08 AM: R30 was filmed in Frankfurt
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 02:41:47 AM: Permanent Waves getting a spin from me right now. Gonna make my way back I think. As I mentioned I've never been a big early years Rush fan, but Permanent Waves always was the pick of the bunch for me. Let's see if that changes.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2020, 06:34:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 02:41:47 AM
Permanent Waves getting a spin from me right now. Gonna make my way back I think. As I mentioned I've never been a big early years Rush fan, but Permanent Waves always was the pick of the bunch for me. Let's see if that changes.

If you are relistening I’m confident A Farewell to Kings and Hemispheres will click for you this time around. If 2112 hasn’t before, I’m sure that will too :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on January 12, 2020, 02:14:06 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 11, 2020, 10:03:09 AM
I too never heard Rush on the radio and I think Rush is one of those bands that are big in North America, but not so big in the rest of the world. When I was young, no one that I knew had a Rush record, although we were all over rock and prog and metal. We knew the name but didn't know the music. And I'm not sure if they toured Germany or Europe in the last 30 years.

That said it's still sad to hear of Peart's passing. Tremendous drummer and a definite loss to music in general.

They toured the UK. I saw them on R30 and refused to pay the prices on the farewell tour.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 12, 2020, 02:22:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 10, 2020, 07:44:09 PM
Brent, I think 2112, Hemispheres, and Permanent Waves, even A Farewell To Kings don't really have a lot in common with "70's music".

These are some of my favorite albums.

I basically became aware of Rush by hearing Tom Sawyer and Limelight on the radio.

Rush were my favourite band until Queensryche came along, then DT.
A Farewell To Kings was my first Rush album and still my favourite. But Fly By Night to Counterparts was pretty flawless to me, bar the odd song here and there.
I never liked the first side of Hemispheres- it didn’t do justice to the awesomeness of Cygnus X1.
I turned away from the next three - they were fucking awful. Clockwork Angels was much better.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2020, 02:33:10 PM: Not sure how long it will last but on Sirius XM channel 27...........its now a Rush channel :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 03:01:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 12, 2020, 06:34:35 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 02:41:47 AM
Permanent Waves getting a spin from me right now. Gonna make my way back I think. As I mentioned I've never been a big early years Rush fan, but Permanent Waves always was the pick of the bunch for me. Let's see if that changes.

If you are relistening I’m confident A Farewell to Kings and Hemispheres will click for you this time around. If 2112 hasn’t before, I’m sure that will too :metal

Permanent Waves was as good as I remembered. See how these two go.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2020, 06:43:39 PM: In addition to a bunch of Aussie bands and others I haven't heard of , I see Queen and Alice Cooper have both donated their time (and stage) to a benefit concert in February to help Australians recover from the fires. Good on 'em :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2020, 06:50:18 PM: I believe I read Metallica donated some money as well
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Post by: TAC on January 12, 2020, 06:55:03 PM: Alice Cooper is the best!
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 07:21:34 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 12, 2020, 06:43:39 PM
In addition to a bunch of Aussie bands and others I haven't heard of , I see Queen and Alice Cooper have both donated their time (and stage) to a benefit concert in February to help Australians recover from the fires. Good on 'em :tup

Yeah that's massive. Saw some images on the news last night with the devastation the wildlife are facing. The image of a fully burnt crying koala almost brought me to tears and I can't get it out of my head.
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 07:22:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 12, 2020, 06:50:18 PM
I believe I read Metallica donated some money as well

750K.

I was kind of wishing big bands like Maiden and Priest and the likes would have done something too.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2020, 11:14:39 AM: I saw a picture of a firefighter stood on the road, staring at the flames with a koala sat next to him. Harrowing. If only I could send you some of this rain we have here.
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Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2020, 03:19:46 PM: I fear what the next few bring for us. It's not going to get better.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 19, 2020, 04:21:13 PM: Played the new Magnum today and enjoyed it. Bob sounds great.

Played the Sons of Apollo too. A bit meh,and very samey.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 19, 2020, 05:03:29 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 19, 2020, 04:21:13 PM
Played the new Magnum today and enjoyed it. Bob sounds great.

Played the Sons of Apollo too. A bit meh,and very samey.

I liked that new Magnum track.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 19, 2020, 05:13:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 19, 2020, 04:21:13 PM
Played the new Magnum today and enjoyed it. Bob sounds great.

I've never listened to Magnum actually. However, in my Avantasia video when he is singing, you can faintly hear me talking to myself saying "he sounds good" and he really did and does. Got a comment from someone also timestamping him sounding amazing in my video. For such an older guy, he really can sing.
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Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2020, 06:29:36 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on January 19, 2020, 05:13:07 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 19, 2020, 04:21:13 PM
Played the new Magnum today and enjoyed it. Bob sounds great.

I've never listened to Magnum actually. However, in my Avantasia video when he is singing, you can faintly hear me talking to myself saying "he sounds good" and he really did and does. Got a comment from someone also timestamping him sounding amazing in my video. For such an older guy, he really can sing.

Wonderful voice.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2020, 08:51:26 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 19, 2020, 04:21:13 PM
Played the new Magnum today and enjoyed it. Bob sounds great.

Played the Sons of Apollo too. A bit meh,and very samey.

Same for me, Magnum wasn't great, but enjoyable and miles better than SOA. Both sound generic for their genre, but Magnum have a 40 year career as a band behind them and Clarkin and Catley are in their 70s. They are allowed to not come up with something new for every record. ;)
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2020, 09:08:08 AM: Spun Wolfpakk tune just now (with Mike Bormann on the mic).

Shite-fest.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 03:26:20 PM: Another song from the new Zak Stevens project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-G41ets8w

This is shaping up quite nicely.

That's Simone Mularoni on the solo here too, no doubt.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 22, 2020, 05:49:40 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 03:26:20 PM
Another song from the new Zak Stevens project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-G41ets8w

This is shaping up quite nicely.

That's Simone Mularoni on the solo here too, no doubt.

Great tune :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 06:18:24 PM: Yeah, I'd call that 2/2 at the moment. Looking forward to it.
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Post by: TAC on January 22, 2020, 06:31:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 03:26:20 PM
Another song from the new Zak Stevens project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-G41ets8w

This is shaping up quite nicely.

That's Simone Mularoni on the solo here too, no doubt.

It's not bad. I checked the first song, Fallen, and I like the vocal on that one a lot more.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 08:20:08 PM: Yeah I think the first one was probably better too.
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Post by: EPICVIEW on January 23, 2020, 12:23:51 PM: WTF is going on with Aerosmith with them at odds with Joey and not allowing him into rehearsals? this is totally nuts
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Post by: Samsara on January 23, 2020, 12:32:25 PM: Quote from: EPICVIEW on January 23, 2020, 12:23:51 PM
WTF is going on with Aerosmith with them at odds with Joey and not allowing him into rehearsals? this is totally nuts

My guess is its about cold hard cash. Joey couldn't play for whatever reason, and sat out (I've heard everything from injury to drug abuse). They replaced him. I'm sure in their band agreement, there's some stipulation about members leaving for whatever reason, and Aerosmith is likely going to cite that as a reason to cut ties, which in the end, nets them one less principal in the band, and more money for the remainder of them (think Black Sabbath). Whereas Joey, is trying to show that his absence, while for cause, is now not of his own fault, and he's being kept from working when he can work.

It all likely comes down to the almighty dollar.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 23, 2020, 01:51:22 PM: I think it may be more than just money although I have no doubt that plays a role and probably a big one.

When I saw Aerosmith in September during the Vegas residency, before the show I was chatting with a security guard. My ticket was for on the stage general admission (which was an AMAZING experience, one of my favorite concerts ever I think) so I wanted to ask this guy about what to expect and where maybe the best position to stand in case the band members come over (which they did throughout the night). This guy then just started going on about Aerosmith and other things but he did tell me that it was always up in the air if Joey would show up for the show every night. They had a guy on standby to fill in at all times because Joey was unreliable (he didn't give reasons why). Also said the band members all hate each other, none of them get along and they all came in/out of the venue seperately and stayed at different hotels so they never interacted besides being on stage for 90 minutes.

He then also told me that strippers would be arriving in 5 minutes... which he was spot on about so I kind of believe him.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2020, 05:00:11 PM: It's likely the almighty dollar.

It could also be a personal issue within the band and Joey is out of the band for spite. Spite can be quite powerful.

If the reason is solely based on the band's opinion that Joey can't play up to standard, then I'm totally on Joey's side. I'm not a big Aerosmith fan at all, but I'm pretty sure every member of the band isn't quite as good as they used to be. I'm sure Joey can play well enough to have a passable performance every night; especially the Vegas shows. I'm a big supporter of loyalty, and this wouldn't be loyalty.
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Post by: Stadler on January 23, 2020, 06:03:28 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on January 23, 2020, 01:51:22 PM
I think it may be more than just money although I have no doubt that plays a role and probably a big one.

When I saw Aerosmith in September during the Vegas residency, before the show I was chatting with a security guard. My ticket was for on the stage general admission (which was an AMAZING experience, one of my favorite concerts ever I think) so I wanted to ask this guy about what to expect and where maybe the best position to stand in case the band members come over (which they did throughout the night). This guy then just started going on about Aerosmith and other things but he did tell me that it was always up in the air if Joey would show up for the show every night. They had a guy on standby to fill in at all times because Joey was unreliable (he didn't give reasons why). Also said the band members all hate each other, none of them get along and they all came in/out of the venue seperately and stayed at different hotels so they never interacted besides being on stage for 90 minutes.

He then also told me that strippers would be arriving in 5 minutes... which he was spot on about so I kind of believe him.

I LOVE these stories, Cram. Thanks!

I posted this in a thread, not knowing there was a conversation here. This seems staged to the max:
https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/22/aerosmith-drummer-joey-kramer-denied-judge-grammy-performance-lawsuit/
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 24, 2020, 12:12:43 AM: I'm a big Aerosmith fan, one of the best live acts I've seen, and therefore it sucks to read about all this drama, but then it isn't really news that they don't get along with each other.

Maybe it's time for them to finally retire. Their last tour in Germany was already billed as the farewell tour.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2020, 03:36:05 PM: New video from Black Swan (McCauley/Beech/Pilson)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNGOVHOHbGw

You know what....I'm fucking digging it! :metal
Reb is ripping it up, and Robin sounds fantastic.

Robin looks like he should be on the next episode of Plastic Surgery Gone Wrong.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 28, 2020, 12:49:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2020, 03:36:05 PM
New video from Black Swan (McCauley/Beech/Pilson)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNGOVHOHbGw

You know what....I'm fucking digging it! :metal
Reb is ripping it up, and Robin sounds fantastic.

Robin looks like he should be on the next episode of Plastic Surgery Gone Wrong.

I preferred the first song. The riff is a bland piece of shit but it’s ok as a song. And yes, Robin looks a bit scary.
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Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2020, 02:49:40 PM: Yeah I thought the first song was way better too. has potential though.
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Post by: TAC on January 29, 2020, 08:44:21 PM: Baby JJRock's home movies (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxWR5VtTMbM)
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Post by: bl5150 on January 29, 2020, 08:58:26 PM: :lol If I show that to Ben it'll go viral around here .
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 29, 2020, 10:13:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 29, 2020, 08:44:21 PM
Baby JJRock's home movies (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxWR5VtTMbM)

I’m not sure what that was but the baby f@&$ing annoyed me....however it was funny and the most important thing was..... :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2020, 03:56:12 AM: That annoyed the fuck out of me too J. Turned off after 30 seconds.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 30, 2020, 04:57:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 30, 2020, 03:56:12 AM
That annoyed the fuck out of me too J. Turned off after 30 seconds.

:lol
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Post by: bl5150 on January 30, 2020, 04:08:34 PM: New Dynazty : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2yyRmnLH3A&fbclid=IwAR35lROc0aMGW_8P62gX8rgNFV_2UsHBjDsEuxLGgMNDSu2ewL_QLupIR_E

I love this guy's voice and the song sounds a bit more like their early stuff but these days I find that this sort of production wears me down. Just fucking huge..........wall of muddiness.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 30, 2020, 10:08:41 PM: New Testament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG8RDq4nAtg&feature=youtu.be

Not sure what I think yet - parts of it sound like classic Testament (Alex's solo was immediately familiar) , but other parts sound more like Death Angel to me.

I think they have the production right but the song isn't particularly catchy to me - and probably a couple of minutes too long.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2020, 01:42:14 AM: Vandenberg has an album on the way with who else?........ Ronnie Romero

https://youtu.be/k1zvwRMPvd0 (re-do of Burning Heart)
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2020, 04:13:52 AM: Del Vicchio must be Ronnie's pimp.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2020, 04:48:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 30, 2020, 04:08:34 PM
New Dynazty : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2yyRmnLH3A&fbclid=IwAR35lROc0aMGW_8P62gX8rgNFV_2UsHBjDsEuxLGgMNDSu2ewL_QLupIR_E

I love this guy's voice and the song sounds a bit more like their early stuff but these days I find that this sort of production wears me down. Just fucking huge..........wall of muddiness.

I thought that was alright. Good to see them try and break their mold a little and do something a tad different.
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2020, 04:48:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 30, 2020, 10:08:41 PM
New Testament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG8RDq4nAtg&feature=youtu.be

Not sure what I think yet - parts of it sound like classic Testament (Alex's solo was immediately familiar) , but other parts sound more like Death Angel to me.

I think they have the production right but the song isn't particularly catchy to me - and probably a couple of minutes too long.

Pretty good. Love the more aggressive vocals. Sounds a lot like Kreator to me. I agree it's a bit too long.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 31, 2020, 05:18:40 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 30, 2020, 04:57:57 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 30, 2020, 03:56:12 AM
That annoyed the fuck out of me too J. Turned off after 30 seconds.

:lol

It was cute to start, but then got out of hand. One minute in and mrs.jingle shouts from the next room over "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU LISTENING TO!?!?!" I even had the volume low ... and not even on my sound system.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 31, 2020, 12:51:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 31, 2020, 01:42:14 AM
Vandenberg has an album on the way with who else?........ Ronnie Romero

https://youtu.be/k1zvwRMPvd0 (re-do of Burning Heart)

Not even in the same stratosphere as the original
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Post by: Lowdz on January 31, 2020, 02:18:48 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 31, 2020, 05:18:40 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 30, 2020, 04:57:57 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 30, 2020, 03:56:12 AM
That annoyed the fuck out of me too J. Turned off after 30 seconds.

:lol

It was cute to start, but then got out of hand. One minute in and mrs.jingle shouts from the next room over "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU LISTENING TO!?!?!" I even had the volume low ... and not even on my sound system.

The “singer” has always been the problem with Testament

I realise I’ve quoted the wrong quotes 😀
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Post by: gazinwales on January 31, 2020, 02:47:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 30, 2020, 10:08:41 PM
New Testament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG8RDq4nAtg&feature=youtu.be

Not sure what I think yet - parts of it sound like classic Testament (Alex's solo was immediately familiar) , but other parts sound more like Death Angel to me.

I think they have the production right but the song isn't particularly catchy to me - and probably a couple of minutes too long.

What a killer song, I was not expecting something this strong from Testament in 2020 :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2020, 06:03:24 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 31, 2020, 05:18:40 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 30, 2020, 04:57:57 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 30, 2020, 03:56:12 AM
That annoyed the fuck out of me too J. Turned off after 30 seconds.

:lol

It was cute to start, but then got out of hand. One minute in and mrs.jingle shouts from the next room over "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU LISTENING TO!?!?!" I even had the volume low ... and not even on my sound system.

We're talking about the baby video Chad, not what you found on pornhub.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 31, 2020, 07:24:29 PM: Zinger!!
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Post by: bl5150 on February 03, 2020, 02:01:49 AM: :lol

Cheesy new single from InnerSiege . Not their best work but the sound is on point and so I assume the album will be worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS3d3Ry9gfc
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 03, 2020, 04:49:25 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 03, 2020, 02:01:49 AM
:lol

Cheesy new single from InnerSiege . Not their best work but the sound is on point and so I assume the album will be worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS3d3Ry9gfc

Power Metal Glory, that is my story!

Never heard of the band, sounds decent
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 06:25:17 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 03, 2020, 02:01:49 AM

Cheesy new single from InnerSiege . Not their best work but the sound is on point and so I assume the album will be worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS3d3Ry9gfc

"And then I heard this sound, Coming from this guy's stereo."
:rollin

I actually bought Kingdom Of Shadows years ago. It's pretty easy on the ears.

I didn't know K-Lox, Hefdaddy, and J-Boy had a band.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 03, 2020, 07:04:54 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 06:25:17 AM
I didn't know K-Lox, Hefdaddy, and J-Boy had a band.

lmao!

Pretty much, rite? I'm not sure if I'm on the drums, or if I shaved in a goatee and learned guitar!
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 12:57:09 PM: STOP THE PRESSES!!!!

http://bravewords.com/news/mike-tramp-to-perform-a-100-vintage-songs-of-white-lion-set-on-tour-this-year

What? 100% Vintage White Lion songs?? I'm sorry, but.....WTF are "vintage" White Lion songs? :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2020, 01:03:07 PM: Quick, where do I buy my ticket?
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 01:10:33 PM: So I just had a listen to the new Thoughts Factory album, Elements. For some reason, I couldn't get it from iTunes (I have $12 on account there and would've been happy to buy it.) I listened on Spotify, and well, I'm not sure I'll be spending any money on this.

They have a new singer on this, their follow up to their 2014 debut. Their first album is amazing.

My first thought listening was that the new singer has no character in his voice. I thought the first singer gave their music, which was at times haunting, a perfect match.

This sounds so generic prog metal. I mean, it's played amazingly, but I don't know...yawn. I'll give it another spin, but I cannot promise a third. The one song I liked the most was Frozen Planet. That song is awesome.

Dawn Pt 1 sounds a lot like OTBOA and Dawn Pt2 reminds me of About To Crash Reprise. The final song, Elements, reminded me of their first album musically, but vocally, it just lacks the character of the debut.

I'm extremely disappointed with this.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 01:55:01 PM: Oh, Guns N Roses have announced a summer stadium tour!

Fuck that? I wonder how much tickets are. So how's their new album?? Exactly.

Let's play our 35+ year old songs and see how many suckers we can get to give us their money.
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Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2020, 02:07:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 01:10:33 PM
So I just had a listen to the new Thoughts Factory album, Elements. For some reason, I couldn't get it from iTunes (I have $12 on account there and would've been happy to buy it.) I listened on Spotify, and well, I'm not sure I'll be spending any money on this.

They have a new singer on this, their follow up to their 2014 debut. Their first album is amazing.

My first thought listening was that the new singer has no character in his voice. I thought the first singer gave their music, which was at times haunting, a perfect match.

This sounds so generic prog metal. I mean, it's played amazingly, but I don't know...yawn. I'll give it another spin, but I cannot promise a third. The one song I liked the most was Frozen Planet. That song is awesome.

Dawn Pt 1 sounds a lot like OTBOA and Dawn Pt2 reminds me of About To Crash Reprise. The final song, Elements, reminded me of their first album musically, but vocally, it just lacks the character of the debut.

I'm extremely disappointed with this.

Thoughts Factory. I'm confident I own that first album. Should listen to it sometime.
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Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2020, 02:10:34 PM: How about this one?! Holy shit, I've finally ordered my plane tickets to the US lads.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/angel-and-starz-to-team-up-for-spirit-of-76-tour/

Who the fuck would seriously care for this? Seriously?
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 02:17:42 PM: I heard rehearsals went pretty well though.

(https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.3836228.9540/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg)
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Post by: Lowdz on February 03, 2020, 02:19:37 PM: I quite like Angel. Never heard a song by Starz.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 03, 2020, 02:28:30 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 03, 2020, 02:01:49 AM
:lol

Cheesy new single from InnerSiege . Not their best work but the sound is on point and so I assume the album will be worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS3d3Ry9gfc

Bloody hell. The guitarist at 33 seconds is me 😱. Don’t remember filming it 5hough
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 02:32:59 PM: Oh OK. I fixed this then.

Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 06:25:17 AM
I didn't know K-Lox, Hefdaddy, Lowdz, and J-Boy had a band.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 03, 2020, 02:58:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 01:10:33 PM
So I just had a listen to the new Thoughts Factory album, Elements. For some reason, I couldn't get it from iTunes (I have $12 on account there and would've been happy to buy it.) I listened on Spotify, and well, I'm not sure I'll be spending any money on this.

They have a new singer on this, their follow up to their 2014 debut. Their first album is amazing.

My first thought listening was that the new singer has no character in his voice. I thought the first singer gave their music, which was at times haunting, a perfect match.

This sounds so generic prog metal. I mean, it's played amazingly, but I don't know...yawn. I'll give it another spin, but I cannot promise a third. The one song I liked the most was Frozen Planet. That song is awesome.

Dawn Pt 1 sounds a lot like OTBOA and Dawn Pt2 reminds me of About To Crash Reprise. The final song, Elements, reminded me of their first album musically, but vocally, it just lacks the character of the debut.

I'm extremely disappointed with this.

Weird... I just re-spun it this morning, and I still think it's excellent. I think I prefer this singer over their last.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 03:07:16 PM: I was going to buy it last night, but for whatever reason it wasn't working. I played it today (I have the day off). I need a good sit down with headphones listen, and I'll give it that. Instrumentally it's amazing, but this sounds a lot more generic than the last one. The last one had a tone and character.
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Post by: Anguyen92 on February 03, 2020, 03:45:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 01:55:01 PM
Oh, Guns N Roses have announced a summer stadium tour!

Fuck that? I wonder how much tickets are. So how's their new album?? Exactly.

Let's play our 35+ year old songs and see how many suckers we can get to give us their money.

I'm thinking that it's going to be $150.00 minimum for the nosebleed seats at SoFi Stadium in Inglewood. if Motley Crue and Def Leppard is getting away with charging $100.00+ (fees included) for crappy nosebleed seats, I can see GNR pushing even farther.

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying the fact that I'm seeing Alice Cooper at Hollywood Bowl in May for like $27.00 for a nosebleed seat.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 04:36:59 PM: I'm seeing Alice Cooper too.

Is SoFi the new stadium near the Coliseum?
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Post by: Anguyen92 on February 03, 2020, 04:42:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 04:36:59 PM
I'm seeing Alice Cooper too.

Is SoFi the new stadium near the Coliseum?

SoFi is the new stadium next to the Forum. Banc of California Stadium is next to the USC Coliseum. It's like about 8 miles away from each other.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 05:26:36 PM: Damn, that's a lot of new stadiums. :lol
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Post by: Anguyen92 on February 03, 2020, 05:28:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 05:26:36 PM
Damn, that's a lot of new stadiums. :lol

It's all by design to get ready for the Olympics in LA, I think. Still a long time to get there though.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 05:30:03 PM: Oh, ok. Makes sense.

Hopefully they'll be useful once the Olympics are gone.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 03, 2020, 05:32:45 PM: They mentioned today on Hair Nation that the new Ozzy Osbourne album is his best since Diary of a Madman! I think that is one of the biggest stretches I've ever heard, and for me I haven't been able to make it through any of the new songs in their entirety without turning them off. Besides a few tracks off Ozzmosis, I haven't cared for anything Ozzy has released since No More Tears. So maybe I'm not the best person to ask on this :lol
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Post by: cramx3 on February 03, 2020, 05:36:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 05:30:03 PM
Oh, ok. Makes sense.

Hopefully they'll be useful once the Olympics are gone.

Two NFL teams moved to LA, so they will get their use plus LA being a major city, it'll be a draw for big concerts like these as well.

As for GnR, I've never been a big fan. THey are playing Metlife Stadium over here in NJ but I don't have any interest unless my friends were going or something. My friend has access to his work (Bank of America) suite and offered to take me to Rammstein but I'll be at Progpower. He gave me a suite ticket for Metallica a few years ago and it's great seats (plus free booze and food) so if say he offered to go GnR I would be there, but unlike Motley Crue / Def Leppard who I actually liked and listened to, I don't have that same interest. Also, are there any openers? I didn't see that in the announcement today.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 05:36:52 PM: I hate that kind of hype. So you're telling me that this is BETTER than Bark At The Moon?? Fuck no.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 05:39:06 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on February 03, 2020, 05:36:19 PM

As for GnR, I've never been a big fan. THey are playing Metlife Stadium over here in NJ but I don't have any interest unless my friends were going or something. My friend has access to his work (Bank of America) suite and offered to take me to Rammstein but I'll be at Progpower. He gave me a suite ticket for Metallica a few years ago and it's great seats (plus free booze and food) so if say he offered to go GnR I would be there, but unlike Motley Crue / Def Leppard who I actually liked and listened to, I don't have that same interest. Also, are there any openers? I didn't see that in the announcement today.

I think we had a similar conversation about the Motley Crue tour, and obviously I was wrong, and I'll be wrong again. Plenty of people will buy tickets and have a great time. I mean, it's a live show so it should be good. Plus, for some people, it's great to hear these songs.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 03, 2020, 05:45:33 PM: GnR are very popular, I have little doubt tickets will be expensive and they will sell. I don't have an issue with it, they just aren't a band I want to spend money on compared to Motley who may have a worse performance but for me, I've never seen and always liked (plus add the other bands and its a win for me). If GNR announced some other awesome bands that were opening, I'd consider it, but it doesn't seem like it and maybe they don't need the support.

For my classic hard rock concerts this summer, it's actually looking really awesome, but leaves little options for good support for GnR:

June 19th - Alice Cooper, Tesla, and Lita Ford @ PNC Bank Arts Center, Holmdel NJ
June 22nd - Ozzy and Marilyn Manson @ Madison Square Garden, New York City NY
August 4th - Journey and The Pretenders @ PNC Bank Arts Center, Holmdel NJ
August 15th - Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Poison, Joan Jett @ Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia PA
August 20th - Foreigner, Kansas, & Europe @ PNC Bank Arts Center, Holmdel NJ
August 21st - Sammy Hagar & The Circle, Whitesnake, and Night Ranger @ PNC Bank Arts Center, Holmdel NJ
September 18th - Aerosmith and Extreme @ Fenway Park, Boston MA
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 05:48:20 PM: That's a great lineup. I'm going to see Alice, but he's a personal favorite of mine.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 03, 2020, 05:48:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on February 03, 2020, 05:36:19 PM

As for GnR, I've never been a big fan. THey are playing Metlife Stadium over here in NJ but I don't have any interest unless my friends were going or something. My friend has access to his work (Bank of America) suite and offered to take me to Rammstein but I'll be at Progpower. He gave me a suite ticket for Metallica a few years ago and it's great seats (plus free booze and food) so if say he offered to go GnR I would be there, but unlike Motley Crue / Def Leppard who I actually liked and listened to, I don't have that same interest. Also, are there any openers? I didn't see that in the announcement today.

I think we had a similar conversation about the Motley Crue tour, and obviously I was wrong, and I'll be wrong again. Plenty of people will buy tickets and have a great time. I mean, it's a live show so it should be good. Plus, for some people, it's great to hear these songs.

Exactly. These shows come down to two things. Steveweisers and Jugs.
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 05:50:19 PM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 03, 2020, 06:32:35 PM: Goddamn, look at these prices!

(https://i.imgur.com/lbXIy9u.jpg)
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Post by: Anguyen92 on February 03, 2020, 07:30:19 PM: Cramx. Did you really buy one of those tickets at those prices listed? Is those prices listed without the added fees at checkout?
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Post by: cramx3 on February 03, 2020, 08:37:40 PM: Hmm I got mine during the presale and it was a bit cheaper. First row of section 29, listed at 99 but came out to $130 after fees and delivery. Not cheap, but Aerosmith isnt going to be cheap. Maybe getting one day of could be cheap, but I value things like first row of a section. I figure I could unload mine if needed. Seeing these prices already makes me feel better about my purchase.
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Post by: Samsara on February 04, 2020, 07:43:05 AM: Quote from: cramx3 on February 03, 2020, 08:37:40 PM
Hmm I got mine during the presale and it was a bit cheaper. First row of section 29, listed at 99 but came out to $130 after fees and delivery. Not cheap, but Aerosmith isnt going to be cheap. Maybe getting one day of could be cheap, but I value things like first row of a section. I figure I could unload mine if needed. Seeing these prices already makes me feel better about my purchase.

Smart move.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 04, 2020, 07:50:58 AM: Their concert in Vegas was the most I've ever paid, face value, for a ticket ever. It was actually the cheapest ticket the day of the concert at $175 (if I remember correctly) before fees. It seems crazy to say, but it was worth it. I don't expect the Fenway Park show to be a better experience (I was on the stage for the Vegas show), but the venue and 50th anniversary show should make it be worth the price of admission I'd imagine.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 04, 2020, 11:01:04 AM: I had Appetite for nearly a year before they broke in the uk. I loved it and was telling everyone about it. Fast forward two years and I hated it. I’d played it to death and the songs were everywhere.

I picked up Lies and that was ok but hated pretty much all of the LYI albums, and Axl’s squawk was really getting on my tits.

I wouldn’t go and see them live as I wouldn’t want to wait for Axl to decide what time he’s coming on, if at all.

I saw them at Donington Monsters of Rock where two people were crushed to death. I was at the front passing people out over my head to stewards. It was the most scared I’ve ever been as there were minutes where my feet weren’t touching the ground. It was mental. 😳
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Post by: cramx3 on February 04, 2020, 11:16:18 AM: Wow Lowdz that's crazy
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Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2020, 01:16:12 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 03, 2020, 02:07:19 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 03, 2020, 01:10:33 PM
So I just had a listen to the new Thoughts Factory album, Elements. For some reason, I couldn't get it from iTunes (I have $12 on account there and would've been happy to buy it.) I listened on Spotify, and well, I'm not sure I'll be spending any money on this.

They have a new singer on this, their follow up to their 2014 debut. Their first album is amazing.

My first thought listening was that the new singer has no character in his voice. I thought the first singer gave their music, which was at times haunting, a perfect match.

This sounds so generic prog metal. I mean, it's played amazingly, but I don't know...yawn. I'll give it another spin, but I cannot promise a third. The one song I liked the most was Frozen Planet. That song is awesome.

Dawn Pt 1 sounds a lot like OTBOA and Dawn Pt2 reminds me of About To Crash Reprise. The final song, Elements, reminded me of their first album musically, but vocally, it just lacks the character of the debut.

I'm extremely disappointed with this.

Thoughts Factory. I'm confident I own that first album. Should listen to it sometime.

Nope, I'm thinking of Thought Chamber.
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Post by: TAC on February 04, 2020, 01:19:25 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 04, 2020, 11:01:04 AM
there were minutes where my feet weren’t touching the ground. It was mental. 😳

That happened to me once. I actually believe it was the GnR show I saw in a club in 1987. I remember picking my feet up off the ground, and I didn't move. :lol

I've posted pics from that show a number of times.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 04, 2020, 04:23:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 04, 2020, 01:19:25 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 04, 2020, 11:01:04 AM
there were minutes where my feet weren’t touching the ground. It was mental. 😳

That happened to me once. I actually believe it was the GnR show I saw in a club in 1987. I remember picking my feet up off the ground, and I didn't move. :lol

I've posted pics from that show a number of times.

We’re GnR survivors 😀
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Post by: TAC on February 04, 2020, 04:34:30 PM: Happy 72nd Birthday Alice Cooper! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2020, 04:12:28 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 04, 2020, 04:34:30 PM
Happy 72nd Birthday Alice Cooper! :metal

:metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 05, 2020, 07:58:04 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 05, 2020, 04:12:28 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 04, 2020, 04:34:30 PM
Happy 72nd Birthday Alice Cooper! :metal

:metal

:metal :metal
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Post by: Anguyen92 on February 06, 2020, 01:52:23 PM: Ok, so the presale prices for GNR isn't too bad for the worst seats for the Inglewood show. Only $70.00 for a nosebleed seat. I still will pass on buying the ticket as I actually do not have $70.00 to spend until tomorrow when I get paid and by then, I probably will lose interest in buying the ticket. Parking at that stadium will probably be very expensive. It already cost $30.00 to park at the Forum.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 06, 2020, 02:27:24 PM: speaking of... they just announced Smashing Pumpkins are opening for GnR on select dates including the NJ... and I asked my friend if I could get access to his company's suite :lol I may be interested now, I do enjoy them enough to maybe go see GnR now.

also there are lots of $50 tickets as the cheapest in NJ. I'm not going to buy, this probably doesn't sell out and I can wait to legit hear if my friend wants to go and take me, or just scoop up a ticket later if I decide to go.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2020, 08:51:39 PM: Good to hear that Ronnie Atkins has been given the all clear after his cancer treatment. :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 08, 2020, 05:46:37 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 07, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Good to hear that Ronnie Atkins has been given the all clear after his cancer treatment. :metal

(https://media.giphy.com/media/5xaOcLLyNsTBTjfM5DG/giphy.gif)

Saw Kiss the other night, with DLR opening. Former was pretty good; latter was borderline embarrassing - See 'DLR has lost the plot' thread. He has absolutely zero stage presence, and just looks (and sounds) like a crazy old coot. Band sounded good, and the piped in backing vocals (it was so obvious it was the studio tracks - you could hear Michael Anthony's voice) saved the day. Kiss had a fantastic 'greatest-hits' setlist. But they've clearly jumped the shark. Stanley spent as much time talking as he did singing, and there were individual drum, bass, and guitar solos. From three guys that would never be considered Tier-1 instrumentalists, it was somewhat comical.

The show wasn't exactly worth the $210 CAD that the ticket cost me. But, the first (and last) time I saw them, so I least I can tick that box now.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 08, 2020, 09:50:54 AM: How many kicks in the air did DLR do?
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Post by: TAC on February 08, 2020, 10:09:40 AM: Canadian or not, that’s too much money. What a fucking cash grab.
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Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2020, 03:04:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 07, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Good to hear that Ronnie Atkins has been given the all clear after his cancer treatment. :metal

Good stuff!

Lol @ Chad's Aussie Today show gif. Lisa Wilkinson is one sexy milf if you ask me.
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Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2020, 03:06:36 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 08, 2020, 05:46:37 AM
The show wasn't exactly worth the $210 CAD that the ticket cost me. But, the first (and last) time I saw them, so I least I can tick that box now.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/12Nv3nBSCAbLO0/giphy.gif)
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 09, 2020, 04:53:34 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 08, 2020, 09:50:54 AM
How many kicks in the air did DLR do?

Prolly 6 or 7. I joked to my buddy I was there with that they should rename "Jump", to "Kick".

Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2020, 10:09:40 AM
Canadian or not, that’s too much money. What a fucking cash grab.

Yup.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2020, 04:59:56 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 09, 2020, 04:53:34 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 08, 2020, 09:50:54 AM
How many kicks in the air did DLR do?

Prolly 6 or 7. I joked to my buddy I was there with that they should rename "Jump", to "Kick".

Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2020, 10:09:40 AM
Canadian or not, that’s too much money. What a fucking cash grab.

Yup.

I would've spent the same amount or even more, don't feel bad about the cash.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 09, 2020, 09:19:42 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 08, 2020, 05:46:37 AM
But they've clearly jumped the shark. Stanley spent as much time talking as he did singing, and there were individual drum, bass, and guitar solos. From three guys that would never be considered Tier-1 instrumentalists, it was somewhat comical.

The show wasn't exactly worth the $210 CAD that the ticket cost me. But, the first (and last) time I saw them, so I least I can tick that box now.

Did you really expect a better musical performance though? I was thoroughly surprised how entertaining the solos were, not because of technicality but because of the spectacle of all of them, just like the entire show really. Also at ~160 us dollars, that's not a terrible price for Kiss and DLR, but still 40 more than what ipaid at MSG. I'm not sure I'd pay that much unless like you said, that was my one and only time. They are coming back to NJ and my friend wants me to go but I dont have the desire. Only two songs changed, at this point I want to save my money and see them in 2021 at MSG for their "final" show
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2020, 11:01:33 AM: If not you can catch them on the Kiss reunion tour in 2022
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Post by: cramx3 on February 09, 2020, 01:18:24 PM: Lol yup
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2020, 05:27:15 PM: I know Paul and Gene have kind of implied in the past that Kiss can continue without them. Not sure what that means or it's possible that four new members take over. But I can kind of see that happening because Gene will be getting huge commission while 4 other guys do all the work.
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Post by: TAC on February 09, 2020, 05:39:19 PM: I think at that point, it'll be an officially sanctioned Beatlemania type thing.
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Post by: cramx3 on February 10, 2020, 11:00:36 AM: I not only can totally see that, I kind of expect it. I don't expect to have any interest in such a thing.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 10, 2020, 11:40:09 AM: There are plenty of KISS tribute bands I’m not rushing out to see. This would be no exception
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2020, 02:26:48 PM: Almost done running through this:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0965/5518/products/BLACK_SWAN_shake_the_world_COVER_HI.jpg?v=1575933478)

I like this. Not sure the choruses are that great, but Robin sounds amazing as does the entire band. This style is limiting, but damn, this band (musicians) rocks the hell out of it. They have really good chemistry.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2020, 02:44:22 PM: I need to get to that - I guess the chemistry side of things vs most projects isn't a huge surprise as Reb and Jeff (the main writers presumably) were writing/touring together in Dokken for a while.
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2020, 02:59:14 PM: It's pretty solid. ;D
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2020, 06:07:10 PM: So I just had a quick run through of this..

(https://0dayrox.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Archon-Angel-Fallen-front.jpg)

So, I'm not saying Zak Stevens can't sing or anything, but his voice is boring as hell. He's like a cleaner Jeff Scott Soto at this point. And musically, this is so fucking boring.

Comparing this with the Black Swan is no contest to me. This has no balls musically, and while Robin McAuley is technically probably half the singer Zak Stevens is, he has way more character than the very vanilla Stevens.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 14, 2020, 06:54:03 PM: I found that with Circle II Circle, most of the songs pretty much blended in and sounded the same. It was all good stuff, but honestly I found it difficult to distinguish which song was which from all the albums. That could be due to Zak, not sure. He is an excellent singer though and I'll always put Edge of Thorns as one of the best Savatage songs ever.
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Post by: TAC on February 14, 2020, 07:06:16 PM: JJ, that's kind of my Savatage conundrum. Musically early Savatage is actually interesting, but I can't listen to Jon Oliva fucking garble his way through the songs. And later Savatage, while certainly sung better, is simply not as interesting musically.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 15, 2020, 01:30:50 PM: New Khymera track. Quite good.

https://open.spotify.com/track/2xjQlcLn8VRHGzvMDpRR5x?si=z4t0mHzeTuCU1Wyvv8jM9g

Played the a Black Swan this morning and thought it was good. Great to hear more of Reb Beach. McCauley sounds excellent.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on February 15, 2020, 05:15:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 14, 2020, 07:06:16 PM
JJ, that's kind of my Savatage conundrum. Musically early Savatage is actually interesting, but I can't listen to Jon Oliva fucking garble his way through the songs. And later Savatage, while certainly sung better, is simply not as interesting musically.
To me, Streets is my favorite Oliva-era Savatage. It has a good mix of heavy and clean singing. Dead Winter Dead might be my favorite post-Oliva (mostly) era. The songs have diversity and the occasional Oliva vocal is a welcome change of pace.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2020, 11:34:11 PM: German band Stallion have never really grabbed me - they've been a cartoonish blend of glam and classic metal. They've dialled down the glam a bit ,aside from the odd headband/bandana , and gone a bit more towards the classic metal image and I am actually liking this as a bit of fun 80's style metal. The singer has a bit of the Wildside sound to him (which I like) .........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdlbPvcO5s0
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2020, 02:53:28 AM: Never heard of Stallion before but that was awesome :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 02:58:31 AM: Are they as good as Wyld Stallions?
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Post by: bl5150 on February 16, 2020, 04:12:23 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 16, 2020, 02:53:28 AM
Never heard of Stallion before but that was awesome :metal :metal :metal :metal

You were actually who I thought of first when I saw this vid :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2020, 04:27:38 AM: :lol :metal
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Post by: TAC on February 16, 2020, 06:06:21 AM: Apparently Stallion is German for Steel Panther.

That was awful. :lol

I loved the part after the solo where it speeds up. Loved the ending.

I'm really conflicted on this. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 03:10:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 16, 2020, 04:12:23 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 16, 2020, 02:53:28 AM
Never heard of Stallion before but that was awesome :metal :metal :metal :metal

You were actually who I thought of first when I saw this vid :lol

:metal

I'll give it a click when I'm not at work.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 03:11:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 14, 2020, 06:07:10 PM
So I just had a quick run through of this..

(https://0dayrox.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Archon-Angel-Fallen-front.jpg)

So, I'm not saying Zak Stevens can't sing or anything, but his voice is boring as hell. He's like a cleaner Jeff Scott Soto at this point. And musically, this is so fucking boring.

Comparing this with the Black Swan is no contest to me. This has no balls musically, and while Robin McAuley is technically probably half the singer Zak Stevens is, he has way more character than the very vanilla Stevens.

I think Zak is an acquired taste. Big fan of his and C2C so I'm looking forward to this one. I'll try and get around to it at some stage.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2020, 03:22:53 PM: I thought it was alright.
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Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 03:31:18 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 16, 2020, 03:22:53 PM
I thought it was alright.

I enjoyed the two songs released so don't see me hating it personally.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2020, 07:30:09 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2020, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 16, 2020, 04:12:23 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on February 16, 2020, 02:53:28 AM
Never heard of Stallion before but that was awesome :metal :metal :metal :metal

You were actually who I thought of first when I saw this vid :lol

:metal

I'll give it a click when I'm not at work.

I think it’s awesome, Brent likes it, Tim thinks it’s awful.....what do you think 😆
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2020, 07:32:30 PM: I said I was conflicted! ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 16, 2020, 08:09:17 PM: I liked the Stallion track plenty. There is no conflict.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2020, 08:28:52 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 16, 2020, 08:09:17 PM
I liked the Stallion track plenty. There is no conflict.

Definitely
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2020, 08:41:45 PM: Just found this Ozzy footage on youtube. Phenomenal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZZp5lxp_4Q
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2020, 09:29:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 16, 2020, 08:41:45 PM
Just found this Ozzy footage on youtube. Phenomenal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZZp5lxp_4Q

The 1982 iPhone is truly the shits. But 80s Ozzy is spectacular and this is actually the first time I’ve seen video footage of Randy.....he is a guitar beast :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2020, 04:13:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 15, 2020, 11:34:11 PM
German band Stallion have never really grabbed me - they've been a cartoonish blend of glam and classic metal. They've dialled down the glam a bit ,aside from the odd headband/bandana , and gone a bit more towards the classic metal image and I am actually liking this as a bit of fun 80's style metal. The singer has a bit of the Wildside sound to him (which I like) .........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdlbPvcO5s0

Hmmm....I thought the first part was pretty crap. The solo then was excellent and made me continue with it. The fast part was excellent and the harmonies at the end were quite incredible. Such a wave of emotions. I'll come back to that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 17, 2020, 05:52:49 AM: You sound.... conflicted.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2020, 06:47:05 AM: Makes total sense to me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 17, 2020, 10:47:50 AM: Pretty good, I really like the riff at 2:08.

Smackbound - Drive It Like You Stole It (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9mBkrgQACo&feature=emb_title)

Vocals: Netta Laurenne
Guitars: Teemu Mäntysaari (WINTERSUN
Drums: Rolf Pilve (STRATOVARIUS, WINTERSUN)
Keyboards: Vili Itäpelto (TRACEDAWN)
Bass: Tuomas Yli-Jaskari (TRACEDAWN)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 17, 2020, 12:46:20 PM: That’s a great tune. The female singer is excellent and also quite bosomy
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2020, 01:47:39 PM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 17, 2020, 10:47:50 AM
Pretty good, I really like the riff at 2:08.

Smackbound - Drive It Like You Stole It (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9mBkrgQACo&feature=emb_title)

Vocals: Netta Laurenne
Guitars: Teemu Mäntysaari (WINTERSUN
Drums: Rolf Pilve (STRATOVARIUS, WINTERSUN)
Keyboards: Vili Itäpelto (TRACEDAWN)
Bass: Tuomas Yli-Jaskari (TRACEDAWN)

I think Dr Feelgood when I heard those drums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2020, 03:37:45 PM: Damn, she smokes!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2020, 04:05:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2020, 03:37:45 PM
Damn, she smokes!

quickest way to get a voice like that. :)

For those that like her she has a YT channel with live in studio versions of Dio, Malmsteen songs etc..

Her voice is a little inconsistent at times but her best is very good. Likin' this Soto scream Tim :) ............https://youtu.be/a-qjWstjMqM?t=179

The way she sings I wouldn't back her to last too long on the road.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2020, 04:29:08 PM: I listened to the other songs they’ve done and they were shouty shit, but I enjoyed 5his track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 17, 2020, 04:39:25 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 17, 2020, 04:29:08 PM
I listened to the other songs they’ve done and they were shouty shit, but I enjoyed 5his track.
Yea I heard some other songs that was pretty shitty. I enjoyed this mostly for the music, riffs and Teemu.

Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2020, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2020, 03:37:45 PM
Damn, she smokes!

quickest way to get a voice like that. :)

For those that like her she has a YT channel with live in studio versions of Dio, Malmsteen songs etc..

Her voice is a little inconsistent at times but her best is very good. Likin' this Soto scream Tim :) ............https://youtu.be/a-qjWstjMqM?t=179

The way she sings I wouldn't back her to last too long on the road.
Yea her voice is very gritty, didn't like her voice in those small sections with only vocals.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2020, 07:27:35 PM: Lowest price tix to see Dream Theater on their upcoming tour in Melbourne....................$160 :o
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2020, 07:39:57 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Lowest price tix to see Dream Theater on their upcoming tour in Melbourne....................$160 :o

That is fucking nuts!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2020, 08:19:03 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 16, 2020, 09:29:52 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 16, 2020, 08:41:45 PM
Just found this Ozzy footage on youtube. Phenomenal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZZp5lxp_4Q

The 1982 iPhone is truly the shits. But 80s Ozzy is spectacular and this is actually the first time I’ve seen video footage of Randy.....he is a guitar beast :metal

Here's some more footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LznI4-9mLbA
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2020, 08:21:28 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Lowest price tix to see Dream Theater on their upcoming tour in Melbourne....................$160 :o

Yep. That's what I had to pay.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Anguyen92 on February 17, 2020, 08:30:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Lowest price tix to see Dream Theater on their upcoming tour in Melbourne....................$160 :o

Is that in Aussie money or USD? Even if it is in Aussie money, it translates to $107.00 USD, which I still feel it's a bit on the steepside for a cheap ticket, but Australia is pretty darn expensive to do a tour there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2020, 08:32:24 PM: Quote from: Anguyen92 on February 17, 2020, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Lowest price tix to see Dream Theater on their upcoming tour in Melbourne....................$160 :o

Is that in Aussie money or USD? Even if it is in Aussie money, it translates to $107.00 USD, which I still feel it's a bit on the steepside for a cheap ticket, but Australia is pretty darn expensive to do a tour there.

Australian. At first I was a littel shocked but don't really have a problem with that price now. The venue they are playing up here isn't massive.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 20, 2020, 07:25:05 AM: Just heard the newest track (Me & You) from Biff Byford”s solo album. Fucking awful.

https://youtu.be/AbH8kaJm28A
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 20, 2020, 08:02:02 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 20, 2020, 07:25:05 AM
Fucking awful.

It is Biff ....

(sorry, never been much of a fan)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 20, 2020, 08:14:49 AM: Just based on the title of the album, I actually have no desire to listen to this. And Saxon is one of my favorite bands.
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Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2020, 01:40:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 20, 2020, 08:14:49 AM
Just based on the title of the album, I actually have no desire to listen to this.

This. And the first song was shit anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2020, 01:49:57 PM: New Conception album called State of Deception out on April 3rd.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on February 20, 2020, 02:01:09 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 20, 2020, 01:49:57 PM
New Conception album called State of Deception out on April 3rd.

I'll be checking it out. Love Roy but have struggled to get into their original material. Since they are headlining progpower, I am hoping I enjoy the new album more than their older stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 21, 2020, 11:24:06 AM: Had a better listen to the Archon Angel today and there’s a pretty obvious rip of of the riff to Queensryche I Don’t Believe In Love in there. Some decent stuff, some filler.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2020, 12:02:38 PM: I finally checked out the latest Pretty Maids. After 5 songs I turned it off. The last one was awesome as everything from Pandemonium. WTF happened here, really crap.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2020, 08:25:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 21, 2020, 12:02:38 PM
I finally checked out the latest Pretty Maids. After 5 songs I turned it off. The last one was awesome as everything from Pandemonium. WTF happened here, really crap.

I don't recall thinking it was "crap", but it wasn't anything terribly interesting (and didn't even bother buying it). I'm finding many/most bands and artists who have a long discography just don't have a lot of new creative ideas. Only 6 of my top 20 albums from last year were from artists that I have more than 2 albums from. Most were brand new bands - sometimes a debut album, but mostly new bands to me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2020, 12:01:17 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 21, 2020, 12:02:38 PM
I finally checked out the latest Pretty Maids. After 5 songs I turned it off. The last one was awesome as everything from Pandemonium. WTF happened here, really crap.

I was exactly the same.............they've found a formula and doing it to death. It got mostly great reviews though so ..........
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2020, 02:57:26 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 23, 2020, 12:01:17 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 21, 2020, 12:02:38 PM
I finally checked out the latest Pretty Maids. After 5 songs I turned it off. The last one was awesome as everything from Pandemonium. WTF happened here, really crap.

I was exactly the same.............they've found and formula and doing it to death. It got mostly great reviews though so ..........

Maybe I should have let it run more than up to track 5, but I couldn't.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 26, 2020, 07:28:16 PM: I just saw on blabber that the lead singer of Riot of all people, Todd Michael Hall, stole the show on The Voice. I know nothing about that show but obviously it’s mega popular and you would never think someone from Riot would be on it. I’ve really liked everything I’ve ever heard from Riot but was only familiar with Fire Down Under and Thundersteel. But after seeing that Voice clip, I listened to samples from the two most recent Riot albums with Hall, and they kick major ass. This guy can sing and the songs are awesome. Also checked out songs from the first two Riot albums and they are all great too. Riot :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2020, 07:38:16 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 26, 2020, 07:28:16 PM
I just saw on blabber that the lead singer of Riot of all people, Todd Michael Hall, stole the show on The Voice. I know nothing about that show but obviously it’s mega popular and you would never think someone from Riot would be on it. I’ve really liked everything I’ve ever heard from Riot but was only familiar with Fire Down Under and Thundersteel. But after seeing that Voice clip, I listened to samples from the two most recent Riot albums with Hall, and they kick major ass. This guy can sing and the songs are awesome. Also checked out songs from the first two Riot albums and they are all great too. Riot :metal :metal :metal :metal

Jason, Todd Michael Hall is awesome. The last Riot V album, Armor Of Light was decent, but the one before that, Unleash The Fire is fucking A amazing.

The first two Riot albums? Do you mean Rock City and Narita?

Narita made my Top 50. That album is great. Bought that together with Piece Of Mind back in the day. So many great tunes on that.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 26, 2020, 07:44:58 PM: Yeah those were the samples I was listening to, Rock City and Narita. Great stuff, but those newest Riot songs are :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on February 26, 2020, 07:47:05 PM: Narita is amazing, I would actually take it over Fire Down Under. Waiting For The Taking, Here We Come Again, 49er, Road Racin, White Rock, and the instrumental title track. Holy shit! :metal

Check out Unleash The Fire.

EDIT: I just found the clip. He fucking nails it!
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 26, 2020, 08:04:51 PM: Awesome!

Also really liked the tune Bring the Hammer Down!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2020, 08:08:36 PM: Check out Until We Meet Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ackMuZUZiiY

Which is clearly written about the late Mark Reale. Really touching lyrics.

Great tune!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on February 27, 2020, 05:07:41 AM: I'm just surprised that he's 50
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2020, 07:25:55 AM: Woke up today thinking about Riot.

Spinning Narita this morning. Man what a great album. What I really like about it are the long extended guitar solo outros in Waiting For The Taking and Here We Come Again. I love that kind of thing. There was a time when I was in high school that 49er was my favorite song.

Jason, if you like Thundersteel, Riot V released a live album, Live In Japan, a couple of years ago where they play it in its entirety, with Todd Michael Hall. It's really good.

Have you tried the two Rhett Forester Era albums? Restless Breed ('82) and Born In America ('83). Two really cool albums right there.

Restless Breed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1J40avbbo&list=OLAK5uy_l_ExbQNu7YiPBvLunFyhLUZ_0jAm2UAPw)
CIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBDGb9N5Mwk&list=OLAK5uy_l_ExbQNu7YiPBvLunFyhLUZ_0jAm2UAPw&index=2)

Running From The Law (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2PWuKUhYD0&list=OLAK5uy_nB9J5jWnv4Vws1lSuiTlU7LCNazq_Gg_I)
Wings Of Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxDJKgo8t9s&list=OLAK5uy_nB9J5jWnv4Vws1lSuiTlU7LCNazq_Gg_I&index=3)
Born In America (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrzuILXzQXk&list=OLAK5uy_nB9J5jWnv4Vws1lSuiTlU7LCNazq_Gg_I&index=1)
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 27, 2020, 08:53:29 AM: Checked out 49er and that song is awesome too. Tim do you own all 16 Riot albums? Or at least heard them all? I’m sure Brent has lol

I watched the Voice clip again and that Kelly judge was a tad condescending. She said didn’t believe rock music existed anymore. Buzz off lady
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Post by: TAC on February 27, 2020, 08:01:27 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on February 27, 2020, 08:53:29 AM
Tim do you own all 16 Riot albums? Or at least heard them all? I’m sure Brent has lol

I don't. I have everything up through Thundersteel, and I have the last two. Too many lineup changes, and I really lost track. I think I bought the Reverance album with TMH, and found out he was singing in Riot, so I went from there.
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Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2020, 04:47:03 AM: Good performance. Why did he even go on this show? Is there a chance he simply did it to subliminally get more recognition for Riot?

Should do the thing that we started at the start of the year which fizzled and go through all the Riot records and comment. I only know Thundersteel and Fire Down Under. I checked a newer one too and was solid. Might go back and discover more.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2020, 06:02:05 AM: An early demo from an album that Tommy Skeoch is shopping around..............sounds more like Tesla than Tesla. I'm digging it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhSH3B_ll-s&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 06:10:59 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 03, 2020, 06:02:05 AM
An early demo from an album that Tommy Skeoch is shopping around..............sounds more like Tesla than Tesla. I'm digging it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhSH3B_ll-s&feature=youtu.be

I was skeptical, before I heard it, but after I feel worse about it. It's a nothing song. Got a guy to sound like Jeff Keith. I mean fishing for middle aged Tesla fans that might remember a guy that played in a band thirty fucking years ago?

The guy's got to make a living, so whatever. I'll listen to an actual album, but I have no idea why anyone would invest in this any further, either monetarily or energy wise.

Sorry Brent! Not jumping on you. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2020, 06:25:00 AM: Fair enough.............what Tesla has done since Psychotic Supper/Bust A Nut has been depressing and so I am a sucker for anything that sounds like that era.....so yeah middle aged Tesla fan here :lol And I am cutting him some slack because this (I'm guessing) will be an attempt at a "single" and the sound quality is damn good for a demo , in fact better than most of what passes for finished product these days.

The song itself is very good to me without being great , but certainly has me interested enough to follow up on it if/when an album arrives.
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Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 06:41:14 AM: Although I haven't listened to it in ages, I remember thinking Forever More was pretty decent. Is it true they have only made 2 albums since Bust A Nut? Now that is depressing.

No one loved Tesla more than me back in the day. Saw the a number of times between '86-'94. Just great solid rocking.

I'm actually seeing them in a couple of months...opening for Alice Cooper. Looking forward to it.

But honestly, I am a big believer in bands making new music. I honestly don't care to hear the same songs I heard 30something years ago.
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Post by: Samsara on March 03, 2020, 07:33:48 AM: Gotta say, I love the new Tommy Skeoch (Resist & Bite) tune.

I've been a hardcore Tesla fan since the start, and the moment they ousted Tommy (which to be fair, was deserved), the band went from this great hybrid of blues/hard rock/metal with a bit of an attitude, to this middle-aged, washed up, classic rock band. Forever More was OK, but everything after it was horrendous. And to be honest, I really don't even bother with anything after Into the Now. That's not to say Dave Rude wasn't a great replacement -- he is. But the problem is, he's a Bay Area hippy guy, and has way too much in common with Frank, from a playing standpoint. It makes things...vanilla.

Tommy was their balls. The edge. He had and has, his demons. But the edge and metal vibe he brought to them is sorely missed. And this new song from his new band -- that's sorta how Tesla SHOULD sound like to my ears. Can't wait for the record (if it actually gets made).
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Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2020, 07:58:02 AM: Quote from: Samsara on March 03, 2020, 07:33:48 AM
Gotta say, I love the new Tommy Skeoch (Resist & Bite) tune.

I've been a hardcore Tesla fan since the start, and the moment they ousted Tommy (which to be fair, was deserved), the band went from this great hybrid of blues/hard rock/metal with a bit of an attitude, to this middle-aged, washed up, classic rock band. Forever More was OK, but everything after it was horrendous. And to be honest, I really don't even bother with anything after Into the Now. That's not to say Dave Rude wasn't a great replacement -- he is. But the problem is, he's a Bay Area hippy guy, and has way too much in common with Frank, from a playing standpoint. It makes things...vanilla.

Tommy was their balls. The edge. He had and has, his demons. But the edge and metal vibe he brought to them is sorely missed. And this new song from his new band -- that's sorta how Tesla SHOULD sound like to my ears. Can't wait for the record (if it actually gets made).

Agree with pretty much all that.

Quote from: TAC on March 03, 2020, 06:41:14 AM
Although I haven't listened to it in ages, I remember thinking Forever More was pretty decent. Is it true they have only made 2 albums since Bust A Nut? Now that is depressing.

Four studio albums since Bust A Nut and I don't own any of em ;D I have Tesla demos that are better than anything they've released since then , so not interested. As Brian said Skeoch was the balls in the guitar department and listening to this new track got me back in the Psychotic Supper vibe.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 03, 2020, 08:28:56 AM: Forever More wasn't that bad, even if it was no match for their earlier output. But those two records after that were mostly boring.

Haven't heard the Skeoch tune but will probably give the album a spin when it's out, and if it sounds like Tesla of old, there are worse things than that. :D
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Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2020, 03:31:27 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsXZRpHq1Lk&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3dXQjYyP5zTzzyp3Hh1h1gaBVWDg3QuK_GXpQM7zJfAErUl6ZuuFV0UgY

Fifth Angel sounding pretty damn good with their new singer , his hair and Ethan Brosh on guitar.

Very "studio live" but nonetheless count me pretty impressed........
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Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 04:25:14 PM: Sounds good!
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2020, 04:32:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 03, 2020, 03:31:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsXZRpHq1Lk&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3dXQjYyP5zTzzyp3Hh1h1gaBVWDg3QuK_GXpQM7zJfAErUl6ZuuFV0UgY

Fifth Angel sounding pretty damn good with their new singer , his hair and Ethan Brosh on guitar.

Very "studio live" but nonetheless count me pretty impressed........

Very good :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 03, 2020, 04:34:55 PM: Tesla pretty much died after Psychotic Supper for me. Bust A Nut was half a great album and after that I pretty much disliked everything. Wasn’t there an album with no solos?

Fifth Angel sounds great. Ethan Brosh can play. Guess he has to be good seeing as his sister is pretty good too. Can’t be outplayed by your sister 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 04:38:23 PM: Ethan Brosh joined Fifth Angel? I've seen the name but have no idea who that is.

What is the singer's name?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2020, 04:58:50 PM: I just read up on him, Steve Carlson. He sings in a Motley Crüe tribute band. Saw more clips from this concert and he definitely does a good job!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 06:03:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 03, 2020, 04:58:50 PM
He sings in a Motley Crüe tribute band.

Well, that would explain the ridiculous looking bleach blonde hair.....

…..and the belly.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2020, 07:13:11 PM: Brosh played on both Michael Sweet's solo albums also.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on March 04, 2020, 07:31:04 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 03, 2020, 04:38:23 PM
Ethan Brosh joined Fifth Angel? I've seen the name but have no idea who that is.

What is the singer's name?

The band is really happy with both Brosh and Carlson. I haven't met either of them yet, but you guys who know me, know that Ed and I are good friends. They all really dig this chemistry they have. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do together moving forward. Brosh, to his credit, is really working on his lead parts, but also working on the rhythm stuff. A lot of the Fifth Angel rhythm guitar parts are more intricate than they seem, and Ed is a stickler for accuracy. Those two, despite living across the country from one another, are really dialing it in. :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2020, 02:04:43 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 03, 2020, 03:31:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsXZRpHq1Lk&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3dXQjYyP5zTzzyp3Hh1h1gaBVWDg3QuK_GXpQM7zJfAErUl6ZuuFV0UgY

Fifth Angel sounding pretty damn good with their new singer , his hair and Ethan Brosh on guitar.

Very "studio live" but nonetheless count me pretty impressed........

Good to see Dog the Bounty Hunter with a new gig.

Seriously though, his vocals here were bloody terrific. Very very impressive. Ethan plays well or though you can tell he's still a little apprehensive with the parts.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2020, 08:29:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 28, 2020, 04:47:03 AM
Should do the thing that we started at the start of the year which fizzled and go through all the Riot records and comment. I only know Thundersteel and Fire Down Under. I checked a newer one too and was solid. Might go back and discover more.

I might be working on something. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2020, 01:53:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 05, 2020, 08:29:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 28, 2020, 04:47:03 AM
Should do the thing that we started at the start of the year which fizzled and go through all the Riot records and comment. I only know Thundersteel and Fire Down Under. I checked a newer one too and was solid. Might go back and discover more.

I might be working on something. ;D

I forgot I even mentioned this already. :lol

I'll leave it to you mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2020, 02:47:33 PM: Holy carp... New Almanac album dropped today.

Brent... where are you to keep us up to date!?!?!?! That'll be next on my list tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2020, 03:37:08 PM: I didn't even bother with the last one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2020, 04:10:22 PM: Yeah... as I recall it wasn't nearly as good as the first. It was pretty good though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 06, 2020, 04:12:35 PM: I didn't think the first one was worth all the hype you guys gave it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2020, 04:15:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 06, 2020, 04:12:35 PM
I didn't think the first one was worth all the hype you guys gave it.

It's good to see you're comfortable in your wrong-ness.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 06, 2020, 04:16:44 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 06, 2020, 04:15:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 06, 2020, 04:12:35 PM
I didn't think the first one was worth all the hype you guys gave it.

It's good to see you're comfortable in your wrong-ness.

I'm well experienced with it. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2020, 04:17:20 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 06, 2020, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 06, 2020, 04:15:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 06, 2020, 04:12:35 PM
I didn't think the first one was worth all the hype you guys gave it.

It's good to see you're comfortable in your wrong-ness.

I'm well experienced with it. :lol

We all are - with our own wrong-ness.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2020, 04:35:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 06, 2020, 04:12:35 PM
I didn't think the first one was worth all the hype you guys gave it.

Honestly, I thought it was great out of the blocks but didn't age well for me at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 06, 2020, 05:08:06 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 06, 2020, 04:35:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 06, 2020, 04:12:35 PM
I didn't think the first one was worth all the hype you guys gave it.

Honestly, I thought it was great out of the blocks but didn't age well for me at all.

Never heard of them. Are they solid?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 07, 2020, 06:22:32 PM: It's ON, Brothers!

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54957.0
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 07, 2020, 07:24:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 07, 2020, 06:22:32 PM
It's ON, Brothers!

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54957.0

Wow! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 05:37:06 AM: New Freefall on May 8th!! A couple of b-grade Frontiers singers though. At least, Mike is back plus Ronnie and Tony Martin.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 05:44:26 AM: Wow, the new song released from it is really good. I don't know who this Dino Jelusick is but dude has some pipes. Some refreshing songwriting from Magnus and a little bit of thought in his solos too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 05:46:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 05:44:26 AM
Wow, the new song released from it is really good. I don't know who this Dino Jelusick is but dude has some pipes. Some refreshing songwriting from Magnus and a little bit of thought in his solos too.

Great singer................fronts Animal Drive and is the singer on George Lynch's Dirty Shirley album. Has some pretty cool live cover versions on Youtube too.........sounds like Ray Gillen reincarnate when he sings that style.

Seems a good fit for Magnus too. Not a great song from start to finish IMO but the chorus kicks some butt.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 05:49:16 AM: Have to check him out. Maybe he isn't a b-grade Frontiers singer then. :lol

He rips on this track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 05:52:54 AM: :lol Dino will run rings around Tony Martin (these days) and probably Ronnie too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 05:54:20 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 05:52:54 AM
:lol Dino will run rings around Tony Martin (these days) and probably Ronnie too.

Oh yeah, I gathered that after hearing the track. Interested to see what you think of the track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 05:56:03 AM: Yeah..................liking it. :metal I wouldn't say the song had me hooked from start to finish (eg: that pre-chorus is very familiar) , but on the whole I think it really works and the chorus kicks ass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 06:01:18 AM: Almost vintage Magnus but a bit heavier. Hopefully the rest is as good. He seems to keep the best stuff for Freefall and then PF.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 12, 2020, 06:10:55 AM: So just listened to that song. Sure the dude has pipes.....but..

Is it me or is there a movement to have this kind of styled singer in the past few years?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 12, 2020, 06:12:06 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 06:01:18 AM
Almost vintage Magnus but a bit heavier. Hopefully the rest is as good. He seems to keep the best stuff for Freefall and then PF.

Agreed. I still haven't made the time to listen to Allen/Olzen - considering I'm not much of a fan of the latter to begin with.

Dino's got that gritty-yet-powerful element in his voice... reminds much much about how I felt the first time I hear Altzi. Definitely digging this.... even if it is (as Brent said) largely 'familiar'.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 12, 2020, 06:14:16 AM: My ears were glazed over, honestly.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 04:17:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 12, 2020, 06:14:16 AM
My ears were glazed over, honestly.

Well check this out then..............new Steven Wilson is fucking amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rl6Dy430eo

Amazingly shite!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 06:34:55 PM: You are going to get detention from Tim posting that in here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 06:47:41 PM: Speaking of detention................I am catching up with Kip tonight and will be passing on Tim's love and best wishes :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 12, 2020, 07:06:09 PM: I couldn't play the Steven Wilson video. Is he better than Saxon, Accept, Kiss or Van Halen? :smiley:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 12, 2020, 07:56:52 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 06:47:41 PM
Speaking of detention................I am catching up with Kip tonight and will be passing on Tim's love and best wishes :biggrin:

You're going to have to self quarantine.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on March 12, 2020, 10:17:58 PM: Hey, I'm a big Steven Wilson fan and I agree with Brent on this one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 11:29:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 06:47:41 PM
Speaking of detention................I am catching up with Kip tonight and will be passing on Tim's love and best wishes :biggrin:

Thought about checking out the show but couldn't be assed for an acoustic thing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 11:31:17 PM: With all the caronavirus stuff I'm getting nervous about DT and Maiden concerts.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on March 13, 2020, 12:12:34 AM: Quote from: Evermind on March 12, 2020, 10:17:58 PM
Hey, I'm a big Steven Wilson fan and I agree with Brent on this one.
I've liked the last few releases and the direction he's been heading, To The Bone is my favourite of his albums, but yeah even I think this song is going too far. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on March 13, 2020, 12:13:04 AM: Ignore
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2020, 06:12:56 AM: Skipped through 30 seconds of that SW song, wow!

I don't think Porcupine Tree are coming back.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2020, 11:57:59 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 04:17:16 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 12, 2020, 06:14:16 AM
My ears were glazed over, honestly.

Well check this out then..............new Steven Wilson is fucking amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rl6Dy430eo

Amazingly shite!

And people worship this guy? I’m not much of a PT fan but have liked a bit of what I’ve heard. This is not like that. This is indeed shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2020, 02:15:24 PM: I don't think he notmally does this sort of stuff lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2020, 02:32:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 13, 2020, 02:15:24 PM
I don't think he notmally does this sort of stuff lol.
Wasn’t his last album some sort of pop shite?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 13, 2020, 02:42:25 PM: Well, his album had Abba-style pop in a song, another song where it's more in the veins of what I think is Nine Inch Nails, and you had some pretty dark and bleak songs as well. The To the Bone album wasn't really the same style of music in every song is the point I'm trying (and failing) to make.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 13, 2020, 03:00:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 11:29:37 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 06:47:41 PM
Speaking of detention................I am catching up with Kip tonight and will be passing on Tim's love and best wishes :biggrin:

Thought about checking out the show but couldn't be assed for an acoustic thing.

I probably wouldn't use the phrase "could be assed" in any conversation regarding Winger.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2020, 05:03:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 13, 2020, 03:00:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 12, 2020, 11:29:37 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 06:47:41 PM
Speaking of detention................I am catching up with Kip tonight and will be passing on Tim's love and best wishes :biggrin:

Thought about checking out the show but couldn't be assed for an acoustic thing.

I probably wouldn't use the phrase "could be assed" in any conversation regarding Winger.

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on March 14, 2020, 03:46:10 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 13, 2020, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 13, 2020, 02:15:24 PM
I don't think he notmally does this sort of stuff lol.
Wasn’t his last album some sort of pop shite?

There were pop songs but there also were some good prog rock—or actually scratch that, just good—songs. This is nothing like his last album tbh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 14, 2020, 04:46:48 AM: Quote from: Evermind on March 14, 2020, 03:46:10 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 13, 2020, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 13, 2020, 02:15:24 PM
I don't think he notmally does this sort of stuff lol.
Wasn’t his last album some sort of pop shite?

There were pop songs but there also were some good prog rock—or actually scratch that, just good—songs. This is nothing like his last album tbh.

I have listened to that album. It’s not for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2020, 05:00:23 AM: The moody somber stuff he does is very interesting and can see why people like it but yeah, I can't get into it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on March 14, 2020, 05:19:09 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 14, 2020, 04:46:48 AM
Quote from: Evermind on March 14, 2020, 03:46:10 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 13, 2020, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 13, 2020, 02:15:24 PM
I don't think he notmally does this sort of stuff lol.
Wasn’t his last album some sort of pop shite?

There were pop songs but there also were some good prog rock—or actually scratch that, just good—songs. This is nothing like his last album tbh.

I have listened to that album. It’s not for me.

Well yeah, but my point is, there was some good stuff there, at least for me. This new song is just total shit, in my opinion.

Look at me, defending Steven Wilson in a classic metal thread. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 14, 2020, 05:21:31 AM: Quote from: Evermind on March 14, 2020, 05:19:09 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 14, 2020, 04:46:48 AM
Quote from: Evermind on March 14, 2020, 03:46:10 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 13, 2020, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 13, 2020, 02:15:24 PM
I don't think he notmally does this sort of stuff lol.
Wasn’t his last album some sort of pop shite?

There were pop songs but there also were some good prog rock—or actually scratch that, just good—songs. This is nothing like his last album tbh.

I have listened to that album. It’s not for me.

Well yeah, but my point is, there was some good stuff there, at least for me. This new song is just total shit, in my opinion.

Look at me, defending Steven Wilson in a classic metal thread. :lol

That’s a tough ask! 😀😀😀
He’s no metal fan I believe.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 14, 2020, 08:54:46 AM: I know absolutely zero from Steven Wilson
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2020, 03:13:55 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 14, 2020, 08:54:46 AM
I know absolutely zero from Steven Wilson

I wouldn't worry learning anything about him either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 14, 2020, 07:54:09 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 14, 2020, 03:13:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 14, 2020, 08:54:46 AM
I know absolutely zero from Steven Wilson

I wouldn't worry learning anything about him either.

Don’t worry I wasn’t lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2020, 04:37:25 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 14, 2020, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 14, 2020, 03:13:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 14, 2020, 08:54:46 AM
I know absolutely zero from Steven Wilson

I wouldn't worry learning anything about him either.

Don’t worry I wasn’t lol

:lol ok, that's good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2020, 05:09:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 12, 2020, 06:47:41 PM
Speaking of detention................I am catching up with Kip tonight and will be passing on Tim's love and best wishes :biggrin:

How was the show?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 15, 2020, 10:06:02 AM: Sucky.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2020, 02:59:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2020, 10:06:02 AM
Sucky.

:lol Didn't know you made the trip over specifically to see the great man Kip. I'm impressed Tim, sorry it didn't live up to your expectations. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2020, 04:45:08 PM: If you saw what Tim was up to backstage you might interpret his comment differently Kade.

Anyway.............

It was a really good gig and he's a great guy. Will try and get a report up with a bit of video (not of Tim) at some point soon.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2020, 09:59:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 15, 2020, 04:45:08 PM
If you saw what Tim was up to backstage you might interpret his comment differently Kade.

Anyway.............

It was a really good gig and he's a great guy. Will try and get a report up with a bit of video (not of Tim) at some point soon.

:lol

Did he chat with everyone? That would have been super cool and might have made me think about going.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2020, 11:12:52 PM: Yeah , he stayed back after and was happy to meet all the fans at no charge. He actually took a risk coming out here as the whole MRF thing turned into a debacle and most of the bands pulled out. He decided to come out here anyway and play for his fans , not knowing whether he would be paid in full or not. He said he hopes he gets stuck here as he loves Australia so much :lol He called Reb Beach's phone during the gig which was pretty funny.........my phone is shit so I didn't get much good video but will do my best.

And the bloke I got to take a photo of me and Kip stuffed it up of course ::) I was going to get a nice message for Tim and/or a podcast "bumper" but I am not pushy enough and decided to let it slide.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2020, 11:29:44 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 15, 2020, 11:12:52 PM
Yeah , he stayed back after and was happy to meet all the fans at no charge. He actually took a risk coming out here as the whole MRF thing turned into a debacle and most of the bands pulled out. He decided to come out here anyway and play for his fans , not knowing whether he would be paid in full or not. He said he hopes he gets stuck here as he loves Australia so much :lol He called Reb Beach's phone during the gig which was pretty funny.........my phone is shit so I didn't get much good video but will do my best.

And the bloke I got to take a photo of me and Kip stuffed it up of course ::) I was going to get a nice message for Tim and/or a podcast "bumper" but I am not pushy enough and decided to let it slide.

That's awesome mate. I wish I went now. Does sound like a real good bloke.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2020, 05:20:13 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 15, 2020, 11:29:44 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 15, 2020, 11:12:52 PM
Yeah , he stayed back after and was happy to meet all the fans at no charge. He actually took a risk coming out here as the whole MRF thing turned into a debacle and most of the bands pulled out. He decided to come out here anyway and play for his fans , not knowing whether he would be paid in full or not. He said he hopes he gets stuck here as he loves Australia so much :lol He called Reb Beach's phone during the gig which was pretty funny.........my phone is shit so I didn't get much good video but will do my best.

And the bloke I got to take a photo of me and Kip stuffed it up of course ::) I was going to get a nice message for Tim and/or a podcast "bumper" but I am not pushy enough and decided to let it slide.

That's awesome mate. I wish I went now. Does sound like a real good bloke.

Ditto. Glad you got to take the festival in.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 16, 2020, 03:28:50 PM: He does always seem to be a class act.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 16, 2020, 04:14:28 PM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2020, 05:12:55 AM: Just stumbled upon The Unity. Surely Brent or Kade knows of them or has mentioned them? Damn this 2020 release is a nice album (Pride).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2020, 05:44:48 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 17, 2020, 05:12:55 AM
Just stumbled upon The Unity. Surely Brent or Kade knows of them or has mentioned them? Damn this 2020 release is a nice album (Pride).

Yeah - we chatted about the debut some while back in here.........some of the guys from Gamma Ray if memory serves correct. I have a feeling Kade wasn't a fan but I thought it was a decent album. I haven't listened to the new one as yet but have it on my list of 1000 albums to get to :) .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 05:53:04 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 17, 2020, 05:12:55 AM
Just stumbled upon The Unity. Surely Brent or Kade knows of them or has mentioned them? Damn this 2020 release is a nice album (Pride).

Henjo was one of my fav players when I was obsessed with GR back in the day but I thought that debut was pretty crap. Might give the new one a go.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 05:53:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 17, 2020, 05:44:48 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 17, 2020, 05:12:55 AM
Just stumbled upon The Unity. Surely Brent or Kade knows of them or has mentioned them? Damn this 2020 release is a nice album (Pride).

Yeah - we chatted about the debut some while back in here.........some of the guys from Gamma Ray if memory serves correct. I have a feeling Kade wasn't a fan but I thought it was a decent album. I haven't listened to the new one as yet but have it on my list of 1000 albums to get to :) .

Good memory.
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Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 05:56:26 AM: Picked up the Black Swan on a whim and I'm glad I did. Fucking excellent release. Even the old school classic rock style songs I really like. Don't know much on Robin but killer vocals and Reb is stellar as usual. Only listened once but look forward to spinning again. There's some great songwriting on here. Great sound too.
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Post by: TAC on March 17, 2020, 06:00:15 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 05:56:26 AM
Picked up the Black Swan on a whim and I'm glad I did. Fucking excellent release. Even the old school classic rock style songs I really like. Don't know much on Robin but killer vocals and Reb is stellar as usual. Only listened once but look forward to spinning again. There's some great songwriting on here. Great sound too.

He sounds great on this.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2020, 06:07:49 AM: I typed Unity Pride into Google and didn't get what I was expecting :biggrin:

I agree about McCauley's vocals on Black Swan..........pretty impressive. I thought there was maybe 4-5 excellent tracks , another 5 good and maybe one dud . So a strong album overall.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2020, 07:20:45 AM: Being very time poor these days , I don't get as much of a chance to share rare discoveries but if you feel like chilling out to some melodic guitar playing , have a listen to this single from 2019 which would likely make a 2019 faves podcast if there was one :)

https://andreykorolev.bandcamp.com/track/satori

Not a fan of all his stuff but the title track off this album is pretty nice too

https://andreykorolev.bandcamp.com/album/under-the-same-sun

FWIW I really didn't find much to rave about on Archon Angel..............doubt I will return to it.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 17, 2020, 10:31:28 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 17, 2020, 07:20:45 AM
Being very time poor these days , I don't get as much of a chance to share rare discoveries but if you feel like chilling out to some melodic guitar playing , have a listen to this single from 2019 which would likely make a 2019 faves podcast if there was one :)

https://andreykorolev.bandcamp.com/track/satori

Not a fan of all his stuff but the title track off this album is pretty nice too

https://andreykorolev.bandcamp.com/album/under-the-same-sun

FWIW I really didn't find much to rave about on Archon Angel..............doubt I will return to it.

That’s really nice. I threw him a dollar!
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Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 03:54:03 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 17, 2020, 06:07:49 AM
I typed Unity Pride into Google and didn't get what I was expecting :biggrin:

I agree about McCauley's vocals on Black Swan..........pretty impressive. I thought there was maybe 4-5 excellent tracks , another 5 good and maybe one dud . So a strong album overall.

For a Frontiers release of one of these thrown together bands, they pretty much nailed this one, for once.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 18, 2020, 04:05:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 17, 2020, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 17, 2020, 06:07:49 AM
I typed Unity Pride into Google and didn't get what I was expecting :biggrin:

I agree about McCauley's vocals on Black Swan..........pretty impressive. I thought there was maybe 4-5 excellent tracks , another 5 good and maybe one dud . So a strong album overall.

For a Frontiers release of one of these thrown together bands, they pretty much nailed this one, for once.

They wrote the tracks didn’t they? They aren’t the usual shite from the Del Veccio notepad.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 18, 2020, 05:23:43 AM: Don’t go and ruin The Unity for me, Kade! Couple of clunkers on the debut, but overall, I’m digging it. Maybe because I don’t know much Gamma Ray, and not comparing his to any expectations of/from Henjo?? Whatever the reason, this is scratchin me where I itch.
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Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2020, 05:24:19 AM: True. Reb, Jeff and Robin wrote all the songs. This album shows how much involvement Reb has in Winger. So much on here sounds like later day Winger. Johnny Came Marching is more Winger than Winger.

In the booklet too I found it strange that 3 of the members have their thank you notes but with Reb it just has the equipment he uses. Really strange.
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Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2020, 05:25:03 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 18, 2020, 05:23:43 AM
Don’t go and ruin The Unity for me, Kade! Couple of clunkers on the debut, but overall, I’m digging it. Maybe because I don’t know much Gamma Ray, and not comparing his to any expectations of/from Henjo?? Whatever the reason, this is scratchin me where I itch.

Maybe I will revisit the debut and check the new one.
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Post by: Evermind on March 18, 2020, 08:07:41 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 17, 2020, 05:12:55 AM
Just stumbled upon The Unity. Surely Brent or Kade knows of them or has mentioned them? Damn this 2020 release is a nice album (Pride).

I have their debut, saw them live opening for Edguy a few years ago. Nice album. Actually considered using them in your next roulette, whenever that is.

I'll check out their new one.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2020, 06:02:25 AM: Someone posted this today in a local Facebook group. It's very rare to see any photos of the old stores in Melbourne from the 80s that I used to hang around in , but this brought back plenty of memories. This is even a little before my time but same store I went to many , many times and walked out with a big bag full of albums.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9xz9rKF/metal-for-melbourne.jpg)
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2020, 06:04:52 AM: Wow, that place looks awesome! I would've definitely been hanging out there! Love the box of tapes on the counter on the right. Demos? Bootlegs?
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 06:15:52 AM: Is this store all rock/metal or is this just the rock/metal section?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2020, 06:25:58 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 19, 2020, 06:04:52 AM
Wow, that place looks awesome! I would've definitely been hanging out there! Love the box of tapes on the counter on the right. Demos? Bootlegs?

Not sure about those tapes..........looks like tapes were only just getting going. Might have just been blanks.

Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 06:15:52 AM
Is this store all rock/metal or is this just the rock/metal section?

It was the first location of a store called Metal For Melbourne.................all rock and metal. It was a 5 Woo! rated store. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 08:09:23 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on March 19, 2020, 11:46:41 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 18, 2020, 05:24:19 AM
True. Reb, Jeff and Robin wrote all the songs. This album shows how much involvement Reb has in Winger. So much on here sounds like later day Winger. Johnny Came Marching is more Winger than Winger.

In the booklet too I found it strange that 3 of the members have their thank you notes but with Reb it just has the equipment he uses. Really strange.

There are some very Winger like riffs on here, definitely.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 12:46:12 PM: Chad, you are taking all of those Ham n Eggers in the roulettemania to school with your promos and wrestling knowledge.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 03:54:24 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 12:46:12 PM
Chad, you are taking all of those Ham n Eggers in the roulettemania to school with your promos and wrestling knowledge.

Ham and eggers?!
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 04:32:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 03:54:24 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 12:46:12 PM
Chad, you are taking all of those Ham n Eggers in the roulettemania to school with your promos and wrestling knowledge.

Ham and eggers?!

I sincerely apologize Kade. But if you were in that roulette you would also be a Ham n Egger because you don’t know what a Ham n Egger is.
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2020, 04:38:08 PM: If this is between J Boy and JJ, it sounds more like Canadian bacon.
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 04:41:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 04:32:54 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 03:54:24 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 12:46:12 PM
Chad, you are taking all of those Ham n Eggers in the roulettemania to school with your promos and wrestling knowledge.

Ham and eggers?!

I sincerely apologize Kade. But if you were in that roulette you would also be a Ham n Egger because you don’t know what a Ham n Egger is.

Er.......

I just had bacon and eggs for breakfast like half an hour ago, does that count?
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 04:42:45 PM: I just goggled it......Jason you monster! And I thought we were friends. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 04:44:29 PM: :rollin

Once again, sorry Wolfster (HnE)
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Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2020, 08:48:56 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 04:44:29 PM
:rollin

Once again, sorry Wolfster (HnE)

Please tell me Tim is one also?
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 09:42:50 PM: Bobby “The Brain” Heenan made famous the Ham n Egger zinger and made it a popular word for wrestling fans. But to my knowledge, the first time Ham n Egger was mentioned was by Rocky Balboa in Rocky 1 when he was proposed the initial match against the legendary Apollo Creed. So yes both Kade and Tim are Ham n Eggers for their lack of wrestling knowledge, but it’s with complete respect lol.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 19, 2020, 09:57:14 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 12:46:12 PM
Chad, you are taking all of those Ham n Eggers in the roulettemania to school with your promos and wrestling knowledge.

Tryin my best. I was quite disappointed you didn't show up in time. Why TAC was given the Natch moniker is anybody's guess. He's more like Doink the Clown. Or El Dandy.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 09:59:40 PM: Please don’t deny or discount Bastion Booger
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 19, 2020, 10:31:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 09:59:40 PM
Please don’t deny or discount Bastion Booger

Shockmaster!
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 10:37:53 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 19, 2020, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 09:59:40 PM
Please don’t deny or discount Bastion Booger

Shockmaster!

He fell flat on his ass!
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Post by: Podaar on March 20, 2020, 05:27:41 AM: :lol

You guys think Ham N Egger is actually an insult? Isn't that cute...

Kade, be proud! You've actually seen a vagina.

edit: Sorry guys, this Sheik persona is hard to shake.
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Post by: Indiscipline on March 20, 2020, 05:33:33 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 19, 2020, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 12:46:12 PM
Chad, you are taking all of those Ham n Eggers in the roulettemania to school with your promos and wrestling knowledge.

Tryin my best. I was quite disappointed you didn't show up in time. Why TAC was given the Natch moniker is anybody's guess. He's more like Doink the Clown. Or El Dandy.

There's still time to show up
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Post by: Podaar on March 20, 2020, 05:41:23 AM: Yeah, JJ, you could take over my spot! I'll sell it to you real cheap. Free.
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2020, 05:52:08 AM: Quote from: Podaar on March 20, 2020, 05:27:41 AM
:lol

You guys think Ham N Egger is actually an insult? Isn't that cute...

Kade, be proud! You've actually seen a vagina.

edit: Sorry guys, this Sheik persona is hard to shake.

This all makes no sense, but yes thank you, I have seen a vagina, plus more.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2020, 10:58:53 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 19, 2020, 09:42:50 PM
Bobby “The Brain” Heenan made famous the Ham n Egger zinger and made it a popular word for wrestling fans. But to my knowledge, the first time Ham n Egger was mentioned was by Rocky Balboa in Rocky 1 when he was proposed the initial match against the legendary Apollo Creed. So yes both Kade and Tim are Ham n Eggers for their lack of wrestling knowledge, but it’s with complete respect lol.

And I always thought it was a cricketing term for medium paced bowling 😱
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2020, 05:41:57 PM: New Mike Lepond Silent Assassins May 29th. Whore of Babylon.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2020, 05:38:49 AM: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialJudasPriest/videos/235044677669095/
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 23, 2020, 07:13:44 AM: I’ll be the first to admit I was acting too casual with this thing initially. But once getting more informed and doing more research, I realize the gravity of the situation. But now I am glad that Rob has stressed that it is :metal :metal :metal :metal to social distance and quarantine (and not cool to be a hoarder) I feel even better lol!

Speaking of Priest, who else is interested in hearing this new material from KKs Priest? KK said the new songs are sounding incredible. But I’m still hoping KK gets invited to a Priest show later this year for the anniversary
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Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2020, 03:51:06 AM: New Gibson promo........Faulkner interviewing Iommi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBoLMFl0jLY
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Post by: Samsara on March 30, 2020, 09:49:46 AM: re: KK's Priest -- I have mixed feelings. While I like the lineup, and have interest in the music, I think naming the band "KK's Priest" is childish and really wrong. Just call it a real band name, and if you must reference priest, just say "featuring former Judas Priest members K.K. Downing, Les Binks, and Tim "Ripper" Owens.

Honestly, I think they do a disservice to themselves with that current band name. I hope they reconsider before the album is promoted. Looking forward to hear it though.
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Post by: EPICVIEW on March 30, 2020, 09:54:55 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 28, 2020, 03:51:06 AM
New Gibson promo........Faulkner interviewing Iommi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBoLMFl0jLY

Love Faulkner... great guy too
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 30, 2020, 01:22:13 PM: Quote from: Samsara on March 30, 2020, 09:49:46 AM
re: KK's Priest -- I have mixed feelings. While I like the lineup, and have interest in the music, I think naming the band "KK's Priest" is childish and really wrong. Just call it a real band name, and if you must reference priest, just say "featuring former Judas Priest members K.K. Downing, Les Binks, and Tim "Ripper" Owens.

Honestly, I think they do a disservice to themselves with that current band name. I hope they reconsider before the album is promoted. Looking forward to hear it though.

I agree, didn’t think much of the name. They probably would still have time to change the name officially before the album gets released. Go through the entire Priest discography and songs and pick a band name based on a song title. Electric Eye for example. Not sure about copy right issues
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Post by: Lowdz on March 30, 2020, 04:03:55 PM: To be fair, there’s more Priest in KK’s band than real Priest though.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 03, 2020, 06:38:26 AM: How did I miss this was coming out?? I suppose I could/should have put this in the Frontiers thread, but since it's good music ...

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To celebrate FUTURE WORLD’s 30th Anniversary, over the course of 2017-18 Pretty Maids hit the road to play the album in its entirety to mark the release of this landmark album in their discography. The band decided to record and film a live performance of the album in Tokyo, Japan where the band was set to play on two nights in November of 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTa65iPPAQs

Release date: May 22, 2020 on CD/DVD, Blu-ray, and 2xLP.

Shut up and take my money!
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Post by: Samsara on April 03, 2020, 09:15:11 AM: Got my press advance of the new Firewind earlier this week. After one spin, I'm liking it more than the last couple. Gus said it harkens back to the earlier FW days, and I'd agree with that. More as I listen further...
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 03, 2020, 12:31:52 PM: Hells yeah!

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BREAKING NEWS:
Primal Fear recently finished the recording of their upcoming 13th studio album, set to be titled „Metal Commando“. The title of the album speaks for itself - „Metal Commando“ contains 110% PRIMAL FEAR and is full to the brim with power and energy. The album was produced by Mat Sinner and mixed by Jacob Hansen – an experienced dream-team.

„I don't want to throw around superlatives, but each of us went to their utmost limits and we are all very happy with the sound and song material. It's pretty safe to say that this is a top album and maybe even our strongest record to date“, comments bassist and producer Mat Sinner. „It's the perfect mix between our origins and our current style, a perfect balance and all band members did an awesome job playing and recording it. For me, „Metal Commando“ is the right album at the right time!“.

The album will be released on July 17th and it will contain 11 tracks @ Nuclear Blast. The pre-order will start on May 15th, just in time for the release of the first single, 'Along Came The Devil', a hard-hitting PRIMAL FEAR bomb.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 03, 2020, 01:04:30 PM: :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2020, 07:00:51 PM: Metal Commando :lol :lol :lol

So, this will be the third Magnus album released in the space of five months. That's quite incredible.
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Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2020, 07:02:13 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 03, 2020, 06:38:26 AM
How did I miss this was coming out?? I suppose I could/should have put this in the Frontiers thread, but since it's good music ...

Quote
To celebrate FUTURE WORLD’s 30th Anniversary, over the course of 2017-18 Pretty Maids hit the road to play the album in its entirety to mark the release of this landmark album in their discography. The band decided to record and film a live performance of the album in Tokyo, Japan where the band was set to play on two nights in November of 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTa65iPPAQs

Release date: May 22, 2020 on CD/DVD, Blu-ray, and 2xLP.

Shut up and take my money!

Saw that advertised a while back. Their last DVD was excellent. If I were to see it I'd buy it but probably won't go out of my way to order it or anything.
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Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2020, 07:03:05 PM: Quote from: Samsara on April 03, 2020, 09:15:11 AM
Got my press advance of the new Firewind earlier this week. After one spin, I'm liking it more than the last couple. Gus said it harkens back to the earlier FW days, and I'd agree with that. More as I listen further...

I'm looking forward to it. The single was straight ahead but very good. I loved the last album but enjoy their early stuff to.
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Post by: TAC on April 03, 2020, 07:22:26 PM: I just heard a song on my Spotify Release Radar. Rising Fire.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/fx4msdUIB5mHm/source.gif)
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Post by: Samsara on April 03, 2020, 08:39:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 03, 2020, 07:22:26 PM
I just heard a song on my Spotify Release Radar. Rising Fire.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/fx4msdUIB5mHm/source.gif)

:rollin

Old fogey, that's you every single day after 2 p.m. Let's be honest here. :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 03, 2020, 08:45:43 PM: Truth, brother! :lol

I get home from work, have a snack and turn on my laptop. After about 15 minutes, I am out! 45 minutes usually. :lol :lol
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Post by: Samsara on April 03, 2020, 10:10:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 03, 2020, 08:45:43 PM
Truth, brother! :lol

I get home from work, have a snack and turn on my laptop. After about 15 minutes, I am out! 45 minutes usually. :lol :lol

Amen. LOL. Have a great weekend!
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Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2020, 04:34:51 AM: I know I shouldn't have, but I snuck out on the weekend and quickly grabbed the new Testament. Only listened to about 5 songs in the car but.......well.......you know what you're getting.

Skolnick is such a monster though.
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Post by: Evermind on April 05, 2020, 07:05:00 AM: I'm really enjoying the new Conception record. A few clunkers but otherwise it's a collection of really good songs.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 07, 2020, 02:24:48 PM: https://youtu.be/JTgayZ3_3KY

New House of Lords. Not bad but the production isn’t great, even allowing for shitty YouTube compression

Better than the first track though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 07, 2020, 02:35:19 PM: House of Lords seems to be a pretty consistent band as far as releasing quality material. I’m only really familiar with the self titled and Demons Down, which is an excellent album.

They seem to have been releasing new material constantly since around 2004. Has anyone been listening to all their newer stuff? Haven’t heard everything but what I have heard sounds pretty similar to the older albums
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Post by: Lowdz on April 07, 2020, 02:42:02 PM: I’ve heard them all. They have been consistent but I’ve always found that every other album is a good one. Not a lot has stood out in recent albums but they haven’t been shit and all have been a bit better than solid 😀

C artesian Dreams and World Upside Down were the standouts for me.

I have a soft spot for Power And The Myth but the fan base hate it. It reunited Ken Mary and Lanny Cordova from the first album but went in a proggier, less melodic direction.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2020, 03:07:52 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 07, 2020, 02:42:02 PM
I’ve heard them all. They have been consistent but I’ve always found that every other album is a good one. Not a lot has stood out in recent albums but they haven’t been shit and all have been a bit better than solid 😀

C artesian Dreams and World Upside Down were the standouts for me.

This I agree with. I stopped buying after Precious Metal. They had the ARP syndrome. It was all variations of the same thing.
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Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2020, 04:30:52 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 07, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
https://youtu.be/JTgayZ3_3KY

New House of Lords. Not bad but the production isn’t great, even allowing for shitty YouTube compression

Better than the first track though.

That wouldn't be hard.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 08, 2020, 04:29:47 PM: That’s true.
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Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2020, 06:59:00 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 08, 2020, 04:29:47 PM
That’s true.

I will at least spin it and give my thoughts.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 10, 2020, 08:22:43 AM: Good investment Paul?

http://vinnievincent.com/product/vinnie-vincent-autographed-merchandise-pack/ ::)
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Post by: Lowdz on April 10, 2020, 12:56:57 PM: Saw that. He’s not well. Let’s just put it like that. I should be seeing him in a professional capacity 😀
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Post by: TAC on April 10, 2020, 02:31:27 PM: He??
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Post by: Lowdz on April 10, 2020, 02:41:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 10, 2020, 02:31:27 PM
He??

Until he confirms his gender it’s he from me 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 10, 2020, 02:52:02 PM: He sells two of these and he's having the operation!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on April 10, 2020, 06:03:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 10, 2020, 02:52:02 PM
He sells two of these and he's having the operation!

And Blabbermouth posts on him / her every chance they can , damn it's awkward.

So yeah changing the subject , ... ultra - heavy rhythm guitar sounds from the 1980's , what amps would you say were responsible ? I'm thinking it was Fender Strats played through bridged JCM - 800's ( 50 watt ) .

Example : Tony MacAlpine Maximum Security , it is buried in most songs but it is there. Better example is Yngwie Marching Out. There are some others that escape me right now . I have always wondered if Carvin or HiWatt amps were responsible for any of this , my only experience is with Marshall.
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Post by: TAC on April 10, 2020, 06:05:05 PM: Max-you give up on the Riot thread??
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Post by: max_security on April 10, 2020, 07:25:09 PM: ^^ man I have been too busy to give it the attention it deserves. I've been out in Bartertown / Thunderdome every day . As much as I try to keep on the normal the further away I seem to get. I have been reading it though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 11, 2020, 05:22:18 AM: Quote from: max_security on April 10, 2020, 06:03:07 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 10, 2020, 02:52:02 PM
He sells two of these and he's having the operation!

And Blabbermouth posts on him / her every chance they can , damn it's awkward.

So yeah changing the subject , ... ultra - heavy rhythm guitar sounds from the 1980's , what amps would you say were responsible ? I'm thinking it was Fender Strats played through bridged JCM - 800's ( 50 watt ) .

Example : Tony MacAlpine Maximum Security , it is buried in most songs but it is there. Better example is Yngwie Marching Out. There are some others that escape me right now . I have always wondered if Carvin or HiWatt amps were responsible for any of this , my only experience is with Marshall.

Mainly Marshall’s I would say. There’s the modded one everyone rented from SIR that gave George Lynch his sound.

The thrashers went with Mesa Boogies.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on April 11, 2020, 09:13:14 AM: Or it could be that the albums I'm thinking of were just recorded at a loud volume ( relative to the room ). It's amazing how many factors apply to recorded sound and tone.

George Lynch , his sound occupies the entire frequency range of human hearing. Live gigs could be very profitable for him , just have the rest of the band stay home and it would sound the same anyway.

Mesa , I only learned about this recently ( Metallica ). That small amp that looked like it was from the 1930's was endorsed by many players ( and priced accordingly ). I would never have guessed to use one of these to make a guitar sound like a drum.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2020, 03:42:41 AM: Weren't Peavey quite big back then? I still have a little bandit, amazing tone.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 12, 2020, 03:49:46 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 12, 2020, 03:42:41 AM
Weren't Peavey quite big back then? I still have a little bandit, amazing tone.

I have a Peavey Vypyr. It’s good for what it is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on April 12, 2020, 06:43:07 AM: Peavey had some decent products for the money.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 15, 2020, 03:19:58 PM: https://youtu.be/KvoqtNeQ5uQ

The newest Portnoy project song. This is fucking awful. The vocals may well be the worst part but good god, what were they thinking?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 15, 2020, 05:20:53 PM: I don’t think I lasted even a minute.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 15, 2020, 05:49:33 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 15, 2020, 05:20:53 PM
I don’t think I lasted even a minute.

You don't say.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 06:24:00 PM: 30 seconds for me
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 06:26:51 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 15, 2020, 05:20:53 PM
I don’t think I lasted even a minute.

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 06:30:06 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 15, 2020, 03:19:58 PM
https://youtu.be/KvoqtNeQ5uQ

The newest Portnoy project song. This is fucking awful. The vocals may well be the worst part but good god, what were they thinking?

Is this a covers project? If not it seems weird to release a cover as the lead song. I don't know the original so I can't comment on this version, but I can comment that it was fucking terrible to listen to.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 15, 2020, 06:33:39 PM: You've never heard Aerosmith's Toys In The Attic?

Yes, it seems it's a covers project. Big fucking waste of time. Why would anyone buy this?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 06:58:33 PM: Usually when Aerosmith comes on the boneyard, I switch to hair nation
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on April 15, 2020, 07:01:22 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 06:58:33 PM
Usually when Aerosmith comes on the boneyard, I switch to hair nation

Or Liquid Metal , lol. I do the same with that exact band.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 07:02:39 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 15, 2020, 06:33:39 PM
You've never heard Aerosmith's Toys In The Attic?

Yes, it seems it's a covers project. Big fucking waste of time. Why would anyone buy this?

I knew it was an Aerosmith song from the name and I may have checked that album once I think based on some recommendations here but it didn't ring a bell listening to the awful cover. I've just never been into Aerosmith at all. Nothing I've heard from them interests me at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 15, 2020, 07:24:52 PM: Quote from: max_security on April 15, 2020, 07:01:22 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 06:58:33 PM
Usually when Aerosmith comes on the boneyard, I switch to hair nation

Or Liquid Metal , lol. I do the same with that exact band.

My go-to stations is Octane or Turbo.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 15, 2020, 07:34:06 PM: Sirius is still a thing? Do people actually pay for it? The only time I've ever used it is with periodic free offers from the manufacturer of whatever car I'd just purchased.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 15, 2020, 07:41:59 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 15, 2020, 07:34:06 PM
Sirius is still a thing? Do people actually pay for it? The only time I've ever used it is with periodic free offers from the manufacturer of whatever car I'd just purchased.

Well, I still pay for it, but I try to haggle when contacting Customer Service and threatening to cancel if I get charged $20.00 a month. I usually get them to go down to $8.00 a month, but I have to commit for 6 months. Fine with me. I like Sirius XM when driving for an hour trying to get to a concert.

Still in light of this pandemic, I asked to see if my subscription can be cancelled and get any credits for the time left on my subscription back to my card. However, they informed me that I can cancel it now, and 6 months later, it will be automatically renewed and I can renew it earlier if I like or ask them to refund the credit back to my card. That's a decent middle ground for me. Now if only Ticketmaster can do something like that for rescheduled shows, but they are greedy monsters and changed their TOS to only "cancelled" shows that offers refunds.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 08:39:00 PM: I’m still on the Sirius train. I pay the $13 a month but I legitimately only listen to three stations- Classic Rewind, Boneyard and Hair Nation.

I know I’m behind the eight ball on this as up until a year ago I still listened to cds in my old car. Chad, what do I need to listen to in order to be current and cool? I have no idea any more!
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Post by: TAC on April 15, 2020, 08:39:42 PM: You're asking Chad??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 08:45:42 PM: :lol

Unless you say it’s still cool to listen to cds
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 15, 2020, 08:48:57 PM: It's all I can do in my van (real cool :facepalm:). I have no input jack.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 08:54:49 PM: :metal :metal :metal :metal

The TAC metal rock van rules
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 15, 2020, 08:56:59 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 09:01:24 PM: Actually I still listen to cds all the time on my Bose cd player at home and hopefully you guys have my back lol :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 09:19:05 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 08:45:42 PM
:lol

Unless you say it’s still cool to listen to cds

I can't let go of my cd's to be honest. Brought a heap over the last month. I can't move on.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 09:22:20 PM: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 09:24:58 PM: That's just ones I gotten instore, haven't even ordered online for ages. I scared to start doing that again to be honest. I could see myself buying the whole Riot discography or something. Seriously, I'm not even joking.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 09:29:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 09:24:58 PM
That's just ones I gotten instore, haven't even ordered online for ages. I scared to start doing that again to be honest. I could see myself buying the whole Riot discography or something. Seriously, I'm not even joking.

I understand, I’ve got your back 100% lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 09:43:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 09:29:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 09:24:58 PM
That's just ones I gotten instore, haven't even ordered online for ages. I scared to start doing that again to be honest. I could see myself buying the whole Riot discography or something. Seriously, I'm not even joking.

I understand, I’ve got your back 100% lol

:lol Thanks mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 16, 2020, 03:36:19 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 09:29:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 09:24:58 PM
That's just ones I gotten instore, haven't even ordered online for ages. I scared to start doing that again to be honest. I could see myself buying the whole Riot discography or something. Seriously, I'm not even joking.

I understand, I’ve got your back 100% lol

I'll be getting them all too. Shame they don't seem to have one of those collections with loads of albums in it like I got the early Pretty Maids albums a few years ago.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 16, 2020, 03:38:53 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 15, 2020, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 15, 2020, 06:33:39 PM
You've never heard Aerosmith's Toys In The Attic?

Yes, it seems it's a covers project. Big fucking waste of time. Why would anyone buy this?

I knew it was an Aerosmith song from the name and I may have checked that album once I think based on some recommendations here but it didn't ring a bell listening to the awful cover. I've just never been into Aerosmith at all. Nothing I've heard from them interests me at all.

It's not the original song that's the problem - it's this version and those vocals :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 16, 2020, 04:51:32 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 15, 2020, 08:39:00 PM
I’m still on the Sirius train. I pay the $13 a month but I legitimately only listen to three stations- Classic Rewind, Boneyard and Hair Nation.

I know I’m behind the eight ball on this as up until a year ago I still listened to cds in my old car. Chad, what do I need to listen to in order to be current and cool? I have no idea any more!

For $13/mo, you could get Spotify. I'm more of a fan of listening to the music that *I* decide I want to listen to, not what someone else decides to program. That's just my preference - not meant as a shot at you or anyone else that enjoys the complete randomness and spontaneity of radio.

Quote from: TAC on April 15, 2020, 08:48:57 PM
It's all I can do in my van (real cool :facepalm:). I have no input jack.

I would hope not!
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Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2020, 06:19:35 AM: :lol

Not a bad little "quaranstream" - live from Snakeyes , Spain's premier Judas Priest worshippers.

https://www.facebook.com/SnakeyesMetal/videos/860601737749078/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2020, 04:37:49 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 30, 2020, 04:12:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 29, 2020, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 29, 2020, 06:46:23 AM
Well Wolf Hoffman's wife wrote for Accept, which might explain the lyrics to Love Child. :lol

Huh, I never knew that.

I never knew that either. And I always figured that the lyrics of Accept and Judas Priest were always written from a gay mans perspective. I remember reading somewhere that Rob Halford stated that every Priest song had a gay reference at some point within the song. Makes no difference to me because all Priest songs are awesome :metal. I thought I read something similar with Accept

Also any Accept discussion should be put into the Hard Rock thread (no activity since April 19th lol).

Done!

Yes, if you check your Accept albums, you'll see that all songs written by Accept and Deaffy. Deaffy is Gaby Hoffman, Wolf's wife.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 30, 2020, 04:41:28 PM: Interesting
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2020, 09:07:09 PM: Who's gay in Accept?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2020, 09:46:48 PM: **trying to remember exactly how Paul describes Udo :lol

Gay,crazy,homeless German ?
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 30, 2020, 10:28:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 30, 2020, 09:07:09 PM
Who's gay in Accept?

Udo
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2020, 11:26:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 30, 2020, 10:28:46 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 30, 2020, 09:07:09 PM
Who's gay in Accept?

Udo

Are you sure?

You know he has a son, he plays drums in his band. He played on the latest album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 30, 2020, 11:34:02 PM: I’m pretty sure

“Not that there’s anything wrong with that”
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Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2020, 11:35:42 PM: No of course not. Everyone's sexual preferences are nobody's business but their own, but that's the first I've heard that to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 30, 2020, 11:51:13 PM: “Let’s go baby”
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Post by: Volante99 on May 01, 2020, 01:37:54 AM: “Toys in the Attic? That a cover? Never heard of it”
“Accept? Gay??? :omg:“

Anybody else starting to feel reeeeally old here?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 01, 2020, 08:44:55 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 30, 2020, 09:46:48 PM
**trying to remember exactly how Paul describes Udo :lol

Gay,crazy,homeless German ?

drunk was in there too :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 01, 2020, 03:03:22 PM: Armored Saint-Isolation (Live from Isolation) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AUKNJ0UIDA)
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 01, 2020, 03:05:21 PM: :metal sounds great
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 02, 2020, 07:18:49 AM: Quote from: Volante99 on May 01, 2020, 01:37:54 AM
“Toys in the Attic? That a cover? Never heard of it”
“Accept? Gay??? :omg:“

Anybody else starting to feel reeeeally old here?

London Leatherboys are not bikers. 😱
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2020, 06:26:09 PM: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETyjEpOX0AAoa_d?format=jpg&name=small)

Scrub Like A Beast
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Post by: TAC on May 03, 2020, 07:11:38 PM: :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2020, 07:39:51 PM: :lol :metal
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Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2020, 04:31:53 AM: :metal And who says metal isn't educational!?
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Post by: Lowdz on May 04, 2020, 08:40:40 AM: Nah, that's lube and tissues :omg: :rollin
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Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 03:24:13 AM: So although I'm still at work as a keyworker, things have been a bit quieter than usual and I've been able to do a fair bit of music listening at work (and getting paid for it too! :biggrin:).
I was never a big LA Guns fan. I bought the 1st album but didn't rate it too highly. Cocked & Loaded is excellent but I only heard that a few years ago. I've been listening to some of their other stuff and really enjoying it.

The new single is very good.

https://youtu.be/aHKM9tEKxxk
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Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2020, 03:46:26 AM: I was gonna mention that the other day Paul but didn't bother for some reason - perhaps I was expecting a spray from Tim :lol

It reminds me of Hollywood Vampires etc.........I quite liked their ballads around that time (Over The Edge etc....)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 04:25:22 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 08, 2020, 03:46:26 AM
I was gonna mention that the other day Paul but didn't bother for some reason - perhaps I was expecting a spray from Tim :lol

It reminds me of Hollywood Vampires etc.........I quite liked their ballads around that time (Over The Edge etc....)

We've lost Tim to the dark side :biggrin:

Don't know if you've heard this guy, stumbled across this on youtube whilst looking at videos for my new Headrush gigboard. Some excellent guitar instrumental stuff, very Petrucci inspired. The album is available for free apparently. I'll download when I get home.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2020, 04:27:50 AM: I haven't heard of a band called This Guy :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 04:40:28 AM: Whoops, missed the link :rollin

https://youtu.be/gVtDkOokx74
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Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 08:24:03 AM: https://youtu.be/-lxFSNO3sgk

Chaos Magic ft Caterina Nix, with Zahir from Myrath. I love this, but I'm a huge Myrath fan. they are probably my favourite band that I discovered this millennium. I'm a sucker for that middle eastern vibe. It's all Ritchie Blackmore's fault.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2020, 12:55:06 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 04:40:28 AM
Whoops, missed the link :rollin

https://youtu.be/gVtDkOokx74

Just spun it ... VERY enjoyable. To goddamned bad it isn't on Spotify. His 2017 release is though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 02:14:49 PM: Why have I not heard that there is a new Alcatrazz album coming?

https://youtu.be/XeXkDPwjuGw

Sounds like a continuation from the first album as Joe Stump is more Yngwie than Yngwie is these days. Lyrics are a bit shit but I like it. Lots of guests on the album too.
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Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2020, 02:22:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 02:14:49 PM
Why have I not heard that there is a new Alcatrazz album coming?

https://youtu.be/XeXkDPwjuGw

Sounds like a continuation from the first album as Joe Stump is more Yngwie than Yngwie is these days. Lyrics are a bit shit but I like it. Lots of guests on the album too.

I meant to link that a couple of days ago. I like that quite a bit but lol at the lyrics.
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2020, 02:40:28 PM: Wow. That is quite interesting. You guys set my expectations pretty low for the lyrics, but they weren't that bad.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 02:57:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 08, 2020, 02:40:28 PM
Wow. That is quite interesting. You guys set my expectations pretty low for the lyrics, but they weren't that bad.

Nah, they’re ok, it’s just the surrealness of a metal song about a polar bear. But at least it is killing the dude 😀

The band were awesome when I saw them before Xmas. Even with Graham sat down the whole gig because his back had gone 😳
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2020, 03:00:19 PM: It sounded like he was gasping for air. :lol

It was cool seeing him last year with Michael Schenker.
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Post by: ozzy554 on May 08, 2020, 03:48:44 PM: Graham has never really been the strongest lyricist. I do love the concept behind the song.....even if his actual choice of words are a bit camp lol
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Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2020, 06:36:49 PM: He sounds great here for his age.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2020, 06:45:35 PM: I remember years ago buying the Steeler album without hearing anything just because Yngwie was on it. That album kicks ass. I have come across the Alcatrazz album, "No Parole from Rock n Roll" throughout the years but never really listened to it. Listening to it now, great stuff. Anyone familiar with their 80s stuff?
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2020, 06:53:12 PM: I bought Disturbing The Peace with Steve Vai, and I didn't bother with anything after that.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2020, 06:55:18 PM: Disturbing The Peace is one of the small group of albums I have on vinyl. But for me No Parole..............is where it's at. Both albums were bought after I put my researcher's hat on and worked my way back from Rising Force and DLR Band.
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2020, 06:57:39 PM: I bought both when they were released! ;D

And I'll be honest. I was quite disappointed with both when I got them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2020, 06:58:34 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 04:40:28 AM
Whoops, missed the link :rollin

https://youtu.be/gVtDkOokx74

I am aware of him in so far as his work as a guitar instructor but haven't checked out the album you're referring to.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2020, 07:02:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 08:24:03 AM
https://youtu.be/-lxFSNO3sgk

Chaos Magic ft Caterina Nix, with Zahir from Myrath. I love this, but I'm a huge Myrath fan. they are probably my favourite band that I discovered this millennium. I'm a sucker for that middle eastern vibe. It's all Ritchie Blackmore's fault.

Caterina Nix belly dancing would be worth a look :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2020, 07:02:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 08, 2020, 06:57:39 PM
I bought both when they were released! ;D

Just when I was feeling old...............I feel better now ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2020, 04:36:26 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2020, 06:45:35 PM
I remember years ago buying the Steeler album without hearing anything just because Yngwie was on it. That album kicks ass. I have come across the Alcatrazz album, "No Parole from Rock n Roll" throughout the years but never really listened to it. Listening to it now, great stuff. Anyone familiar with their 80s stuff?

No Parole is fabulous. I never checked Peace though with Vai.

I'm pretty sure I have Steelers self titled album. Don't know a thing from it. Might have to find it.
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Post by: TAC on May 09, 2020, 06:09:08 AM: Ron Keel on vocals.
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Post by: max_security on May 09, 2020, 06:18:23 AM: That iconic ending to his solo !!!

https://youtu.be/EGzLLpa5XoE
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on May 09, 2020, 06:25:04 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 09, 2020, 04:36:26 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2020, 06:45:35 PM
I remember years ago buying the Steeler album without hearing anything just because Yngwie was on it. That album kicks ass. I have come across the Alcatrazz album, "No Parole from Rock n Roll" throughout the years but never really listened to it. Listening to it now, great stuff. Anyone familiar with their 80s stuff?

No Parole is fabulous. I never checked Peace though with Vai.

I'm pretty sure I have Steelers self titled album. Don't know a thing from it. Might have to find it.

Disturbing The Peace with Steve Vai is amazing. His best work IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 09, 2020, 08:46:12 AM: Quote from: max_security on May 09, 2020, 06:18:23 AM
That iconic ending to his solo !!!

https://youtu.be/EGzLLpa5XoE

Awesome tune :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 09, 2020, 09:48:27 AM: No Parole was my first Yngwie album. Loved it then and love it now. I wasn’t as big a fan of the follow up with Vai though it has its moments.
Never even bothered with the third.

I bought the Steeler a few years ago. I got a call from HMV saying the cd I’d ordered had arrived and I couldn’t remember ordering anything from them. Turns out I’d ordered it 7 years earlier 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 09, 2020, 11:19:43 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 09, 2020, 09:48:27 AM
No Parole was my first Yngwie album. Loved it then and love it now. I wasn’t as big a fan of the follow up with Vai though it has its moments.
Never even bothered with the third.

I bought the Steeler a few years ago. I got a call from HMV saying the cd I’d ordered had arrived and I couldn’t remember ordering anything from them. Turns out I’d ordered it 7 years earlier 😀

:lol
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Post by: TAC on May 09, 2020, 02:09:08 PM: Can I say something controversial?

I realize Steve Vai is amazing and all that, but honestly I cannot stand his style.
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Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2020, 03:07:46 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 09, 2020, 06:25:04 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 09, 2020, 04:36:26 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2020, 06:45:35 PM
I remember years ago buying the Steeler album without hearing anything just because Yngwie was on it. That album kicks ass. I have come across the Alcatrazz album, "No Parole from Rock n Roll" throughout the years but never really listened to it. Listening to it now, great stuff. Anyone familiar with their 80s stuff?

No Parole is fabulous. I never checked Peace though with Vai.

I'm pretty sure I have Steelers self titled album. Don't know a thing from it. Might have to find it.

Disturbing The Peace with Steve Vai is amazing. His best work IMO.

I'll have to check it out then.
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Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2020, 03:08:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 09, 2020, 02:09:08 PM
Can I say something controversial?

I realize Steve Vai is amazing and all that, but honestly I cannot stand his style.

Nah that's cool. His taste is a bit acquired.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 09, 2020, 03:27:24 PM: I’ve only heard Passion & Warfare. Some of the tunes are excellent while others were a bit of a head scratcher. Someone told me that after P&W, his music got more eccentric and weirder.
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Post by: Indiscipline on May 09, 2020, 03:28:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 09, 2020, 02:09:08 PM
Can I say something controversial?

I realize Steve Vai is amazing and all that, but honestly I cannot stand his style.

Not controversial at all
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 09, 2020, 03:29:05 PM: I had Flexable as a kid and that was pretty weird.
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Post by: max_security on May 09, 2020, 03:37:43 PM: I am not a fan of Steve Vai's solo material ( clever playing gets old after awhile ). I like him with Alcatrazz and DLR though.
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Post by: max_security on May 09, 2020, 04:26:10 PM: One of my favorite guitar albums, " Go Off ! " . No trickery here .

https://youtu.be/PoPUqfBFGd8
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Post by: bl5150 on May 09, 2020, 06:32:54 PM: Vai spent most of his early years working for/with Frank Zappa - that's enough to ensure you end up eccentric and weird ;D
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Post by: TAC on May 09, 2020, 07:03:51 PM: Right.

I actually thought he was perfect for Eat 'em And Smile. But I could never understand him joining Whitesnake.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 03:55:32 AM: Quote from: max_security on May 09, 2020, 03:37:43 PM
I am not a fan of Steve Vai's solo material ( clever playing gets old after awhile ). I like him with Alcatrazz and DLR though.

I'm not too sure what you mean? Yes, his style is very acquired and downright strange at times, but Passion and Warfare, Fire Garden and even Ultra Zone has some of the most amazing guitar instrumental songs of all time. Vai offered a lot more than a lot of his counterparts in terms of guitar instrumental albums.

Quote from: TAC on May 09, 2020, 03:29:05 PM
I had Flexable as a kid and that was pretty weird.

Not the best Vai album to acquaint yourself with.

Quote from: TAC on May 09, 2020, 07:03:51 PM
Right.

I actually thought he was perfect for Eat 'em And Smile. But I could never understand him joining Whitesnake.

Why?

Eat 'em and Smile is a great album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 10, 2020, 04:48:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 03:55:32 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 09, 2020, 07:03:51 PM
I actually thought he was perfect for Eat 'em And Smile. But I could never understand him joining Whitesnake.

Why?

Eat 'em and Smile is a great album.

So is Slip of the Tongue. I'm not too keen on his solo stuff either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 04:58:57 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 10, 2020, 04:48:56 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 03:55:32 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 09, 2020, 07:03:51 PM
I actually thought he was perfect for Eat 'em And Smile. But I could never understand him joining Whitesnake.

Why?

Eat 'em and Smile is a great album.

So is Slip of the Tongue. I'm not too keen on his solo stuff either.

I have never honestly ever expected non guitar players to want to listen to Steve Vai's solo stuff. I have no issues with non guitarists not liking his stuff.

Although songs like For the Love of God and Tender Surrender are hard to not be impressed by no matter who you are.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on May 10, 2020, 06:05:43 AM: Quote
I'm not too sure what you mean? Yes, his style is very acquired and downright strange at times, but Passion and Warfare, Fire Garden and even Ultra Zone has some of the most amazing guitar instrumental songs of all time. Vai offered a lot more than a lot of his counterparts in terms of guitar instrumental albums.

I just think that he forces the " abstract " just for the sake of being abstract in much of his solo material. I think that when he is writing for a band it reels him in and we get to hear the rock musician Steve Vai.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2020, 06:16:19 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 04:58:57 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 10, 2020, 04:48:56 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 03:55:32 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 09, 2020, 07:03:51 PM
I actually thought he was perfect for Eat 'em And Smile. But I could never understand him joining Whitesnake.

Why?

Eat 'em and Smile is a great album.

So is Slip of the Tongue. I'm not too keen on his solo stuff either.

I have never honestly ever expected non guitar players to want to listen to Steve Vai's solo stuff. I have no issues with non guitarists not liking his stuff.

Although songs like For the Love of God and Tender Surrender are hard to not be impressed by no matter who you are.

This. I have all his albums but there are tracks on each one that are too weird for me.

Eat ‘em & Smile is a great album. The guitar playing just sounds so cool.

I really like Slip too. It was a great guitar album but not a typical Whitesnake album. The blues was gone. Still great though.
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Post by: max_security on May 10, 2020, 02:37:43 PM: I had a couple drinks so I can say it now ... he is a musical genius but he is just not a strong player ( Vai ). Dude is clever as F on most of what he does but he is not playing on-beat 32nd note passages of any fast metronome number. Clever but not STRONG. I do enjoy Vai , I'm not trying to trash him.

Strong =

https://youtu.be/ScMsdLKhiyI
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 02:51:21 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 10, 2020, 06:05:43 AM
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I'm not too sure what you mean? Yes, his style is very acquired and downright strange at times, but Passion and Warfare, Fire Garden and even Ultra Zone has some of the most amazing guitar instrumental songs of all time. Vai offered a lot more than a lot of his counterparts in terms of guitar instrumental albums.

I just think that he forces the " abstract " just for the sake of being abstract in much of his solo material. I think that when he is writing for a band it reels him in and we get to hear the rock musician Steve Vai.

True but as I said he has more strsightforward songs that really shows what he can do scattered through the albums.

Quote from: max_security on May 10, 2020, 02:37:43 PM
I had a couple drinks so I can say it now ... he is a musical genius but he is just not a strong player ( Vai ). Dude is clever as F on most of what he does but he is not playing on-beat 32nd note passages of any fast metronome number. Clever but not STRONG. I do enjoy Vai , I'm not trying to trash him.

Strong =

https://youtu.be/ScMsdLKhiyI

So he's not a strong player because of his shred technique?
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Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2020, 03:01:19 PM: Loo is is playing someone else’s song there. Little Chinese girls can play that track. I don’t get the argument. It’s just personal taste.
Vai is a legendary player and composer. You might not like what he does but it doesn’t change that fact.

Loo is is great too. Jason Becker was better.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on May 10, 2020, 03:28:02 PM: Fighting just to fight dudes. I do love alot of Steve Vai but he could never play that ( in his prime ).

OK , 30 plus years later people are starting to FINALLY play to this level. There was no youtube back then. Lets see the little oriental girls play this half drunk in a club at 2 am. Or an improvised jam . Patterns and not what they mean or how they were derived.

As much as I try to be nice on here I seem to get F'd with more. Steve is a good player , I like when he is in a band. His solo stuff is weak , my opinion since 1986. F it , he is not Becker or Yngwie ( skinny ) , or MacAlpine .
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2020, 03:31:09 PM: I don't want to detour that Ozzy thread by Wildranger, as it's just about the first two Ozzy albums. But to me, the quintessential Ozzy albums are Blizzard of Ozz through No More Tears, no question. Ozzmosis has some great songs on it, but I could see it being a change of sound overall for Ozzy. Every single solo album and song by Ozzy after Ozzmosis, I'm not a fan of. At best I might think it's solid :). I actually have very little interest in hearing any post No More Tears Ozzy and honestly, the moment I hear one of those new songs by Ozzy on the Boneyard, I switch immediately to Rewind or Nation lol.

I will also mention that The Ultimate Sin is very underrated and should get a lot more recognition. Shot in the Dark :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 03:32:00 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 10, 2020, 03:28:02 PM
Fighting just to fight dudes. I do love alot of Steve Vai but he could never play that ( in his prime ).

OK , 30 plus years later people are starting to FINALLY play to this level. There was no youtube back then. Lets see the little oriental girls play this half drunk in a club at 2 am. Or an improvised jam . Patterns and not what they mean or how they were derived.

As much as I try to be nice on here I seem to get F'd with more. Steve is a good player , I like when he is in a band. His solo stuff is weak , my opinion since 1986. F it , he is not Becker or Yngwie ( skinny ) , or MacAlpine .

I think you just obviously prefer the shred stuff and that's cool mate. Vai I guess never really focused on strict shredding but as a guitarist he is so much more. He's just very unique. He can shred pretty quick though.

What about Satch? He doesn't quite have the speed of those guys you mentioned. Is he not strong either? Not being sarcastic, genuine question.
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Post by: max_security on May 10, 2020, 03:44:22 PM: Quote
I think you just obviously prefer the shred stuff and that's cool mate. Vai I guess never really focused on strict shredding but as a guitarist he is so much more. He's just very unique. He can shred pretty quick though.

I am a fan of Steve Vai. Everything in your statement is correct. He is a musical genius , he can transpose pieces that are above his ability is how good he is.

He said that the most difficult job he ever had was learning the Alcatrazz songs from " No Parole ".

I'm a HUGE Billy Sheehan fan , and I have seen Vai and Sheehan on the G3 stuff . Those 2 should just stick together , there is just MAGIC there man.

But Steve Vai as a solo artist , ...there are a few tunes that I like . If you enjoy the whole thing I'm not changing the channel if we're hanging . And it's only my opinion and I'm not trying to influence anyone elses. :metal
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Post by: max_security on May 10, 2020, 03:47:26 PM: The new Marty and Jason. It's all exposed now I guess.

https://youtu.be/Zz_Qu1hgkrw
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Post by: max_security on May 10, 2020, 03:59:04 PM: Quote
What about Satch? He doesn't quite have the speed of those guys you mentioned. Is he not strong either? Not being sarcastic, genuine question.

His first album " Not Of This Earth " is just incredible , one of my favorites. He is a very musical person that album just hits me right. Everything after is like a " parody " of those songs. So my opinion ... he can do some fantastic things but he's holding back for some reason.

Those G3 concerts with him and Vai were fantastic. Satch puts that together , no one else would. He is a fantastic person for that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2020, 04:01:10 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 10, 2020, 03:59:04 PM
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What about Satch? He doesn't quite have the speed of those guys you mentioned. Is he not strong either? Not being sarcastic, genuine question.

His first album " Not Of This Earth " is just incredible , one of my favorites. He is a very musical person that album just hits me right. Everything after is like a " parody " of those songs. So my opinion ... he can do some fantastic things but he's holding back for some reason.

Those G3 concerts with him and Vai were fantastic. Satch puts that together , no one else would. He is a fantastic person for that.

I think Not of This Earth and Surfing with the Alien are the best guitar instrumental albums
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Post by: max_security on May 10, 2020, 04:11:05 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2020, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: max_security on May 10, 2020, 03:59:04 PM
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What about Satch? He doesn't quite have the speed of those guys you mentioned. Is he not strong either? Not being sarcastic, genuine question.

His first album " Not Of This Earth " is just incredible , one of my favorites. He is a very musical person that album just hits me right. Everything after is like a " parody " of those songs. So my opinion ... he can do some fantastic things but he's holding back for some reason.

Those G3 concerts with him and Vai were fantastic. Satch puts that together , no one else would. He is a fantastic person for that.

I think Not of This Earth and Surfing with the Alien are the best guitar instrumental albums

I'm going to go with

Yngwie rising Force and MacAlpine Maximum Security. Rising force does have 2 vocal tunes , so if that disqualifies I'll go with Joey Taffola " Out Of The Sun ". Honerable mentions to Jason , Marty , and Vinnie Moore .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2020, 04:12:54 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 10, 2020, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2020, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: max_security on May 10, 2020, 03:59:04 PM
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What about Satch? He doesn't quite have the speed of those guys you mentioned. Is he not strong either? Not being sarcastic, genuine question.

His first album " Not Of This Earth " is just incredible , one of my favorites. He is a very musical person that album just hits me right. Everything after is like a " parody " of those songs. So my opinion ... he can do some fantastic things but he's holding back for some reason.

Those G3 concerts with him and Vai were fantastic. Satch puts that together , no one else would. He is a fantastic person for that.

I think Not of This Earth and Surfing with the Alien are the best guitar instrumental albums

I'm going to go with

Yngwie rising Force and MacAlpine Maximum Security. Rising force does have 2 vocal tunes , so if that disqualifies I'll go with Joey Taffola " Out Of The Sun ". Honerable mentions to Jason , Marty , and Vinnie Moore .

All of those are great too
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Post by: Indiscipline on May 10, 2020, 04:15:44 PM: Great stuff. Let me add Power of Tens by Shawn Lane.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on May 10, 2020, 04:21:08 PM: Quote from: Indiscipline on May 10, 2020, 04:15:44 PM
Great stuff. Let me add Power of Tens by Shawn Lane.

See , I wasn't trying to go nuclear . Shawn Lane wasn't really " metal " though. Dude could play anything WITHOUT having watched a video.
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Post by: Indiscipline on May 10, 2020, 04:22:13 PM: Fair enough :D
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Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2020, 04:28:35 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 10, 2020, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 10, 2020, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: max_security on May 10, 2020, 03:59:04 PM
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What about Satch? He doesn't quite have the speed of those guys you mentioned. Is he not strong either? Not being sarcastic, genuine question.

His first album " Not Of This Earth " is just incredible , one of my favorites. He is a very musical person that album just hits me right. Everything after is like a " parody " of those songs. So my opinion ... he can do some fantastic things but he's holding back for some reason.

Those G3 concerts with him and Vai were fantastic. Satch puts that together , no one else would. He is a fantastic person for that.

I think Not of This Earth and Surfing with the Alien are the best guitar instrumental albums

I'm going to go with

Yngwie rising Force and MacAlpine Maximum Security. Rising force does have 2 vocal tunes , so if that disqualifies I'll go with Joey Taffola " Out Of The Sun ". Honerable mentions to Jason , Marty , and Vinnie Moore .

All good choices. Vinnie Moore for me, Becker’s Perpetual Burn and for a change of pace, martyFriedman’s Scenes.
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Post by: max_security on May 10, 2020, 04:37:16 PM: I'm an old timer who stopped playing and listening to anything in 1993. All of my struggles and effort got left behind was how I felt ( still do really ). But I'm at peace with it , it's good to see people playing again.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2020, 06:18:34 PM: I'm not trying to have a go mate, I fully respect your opinions, that's why I asked, so don't tkae me the wrong way. I agree what you are saying with Vai, I know for example the first part of the Jet to Jet solo, Vai taps it halfway through because he always said his picking speed was never at the level of Yngwie. His style is different and doesn't have the shred mentality where you can hear every note he plays like Yngwie, TMac, Becker and Moore so I know what you mean, that's just not his style. I guess though he never intended to be that style of player. Another one I will mention for Vai is Alive in the Ultra World, that has some wonderful underrated compositions.

I was big on Vai and Satch when I was learning, Yngwie too. I have though through the years, favoured the styles of Becker, Moore, TMac. I love TMac's albums especially but always thought he was slightly sloppy live. Yngwie has been a constant throughout. I don't know what I would rate as my top guitar album, but I think it may be Perpetual Burn. That is just one of a kind. Edge of Insanity would be up there too, I favour that over Maximum Security.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2020, 07:55:57 PM: Just saw that there are 8.6 million views for the Geico commercial on YouTube featuring Ratt. :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2020, 08:00:30 PM: The end of the world is near.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 10, 2020, 08:02:28 PM: That was a soft ball for you Tim lol
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2020, 08:06:07 PM: :rollin :rollin
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Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2020, 08:50:11 PM: hair metal is coming back..........buy some shares in whoever supplies Joe Lynn Turner's rugs :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2020, 10:35:44 PM: (https://i.postimg.cc/vT61FYmC/murder-hornet.jpg) :metal
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Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2020, 10:47:09 PM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2020, 10:47:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2020, 08:50:11 PM
hair metal is coming back..........buy some shares in whoever supplies Joe Lynn Turner's rugs :metal

Only if I get my own rug for free. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2020, 09:25:43 PM: Been spinning the new Iron Savior I picked up a couple weeks ago. I really like it. More of the same, but cool songs.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 15, 2020, 01:20:34 PM: https://youtu.be/ReyDqJIxx5g

New Primal Fear. As cliched as it gets and the Halford impression just seems forced. Disappointed.
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Post by: wolfking on May 15, 2020, 02:01:26 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 15, 2020, 01:20:34 PM
https://youtu.be/ReyDqJIxx5g

New Primal Fear. As cliched as it gets and the Halford impression just seems forced. Disappointed.

Lol, what the fuck is this? Surely they could do better than this, especially after the good run they have been on. Will reserve judgement until we hear more but that could be their most uninspired, generic song ever.
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Post by: max_security on May 15, 2020, 02:08:39 PM: Man been a long week. I don't often get to crank it up in my house but no one is home this afternoon. I was in the mood for something from a better managed time so I chose ..... Queensryche " The Warning ".

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/Queensryche_-_The_Warning_cover.jpg)

1984 was a hell of a year for music and QR really added to that fact. I guess I got my drivers license that year , bought a little truck to haul my gear ( no more parents dropping me off at band rehearsal ). And my mind was always full of these fantastic tunes man.

The blind will stay
Not choosing to die
Not believing the visions I've seen

- Warning -
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Post by: TAC on May 15, 2020, 02:09:24 PM: One of my all time favorite albums.
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Post by: max_security on May 15, 2020, 02:15:54 PM: En Force , bad - ass tune.

It's easy to say that I have another QR album that is better than this one , until this one is playing in your face.

Listening to this , to me , is like the movie " Little Big Man " . " Back when I was a " HUMAN BEING " " .
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Post by: max_security on May 15, 2020, 02:39:00 PM: Ok , this is just heavy AF. As the opening lyrics to " Before the Storm " . It was heavy for a clean sounding band you know . I don't know all of the ins and outs of QR , only that I'm getting old now and that I listened to them back then. Is that DeGarmo that writes these lyrics ?

" Red gates of iron cast their black shadows on this land
Divided souls , far below ".

There is a " sincerity " about this album that can defiantly be felt. Roads to Madness is extraordinary .
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Post by: TAC on May 15, 2020, 03:52:21 PM: I love Alice Cooper (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__YxWnRACxI)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on May 15, 2020, 03:57:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 15, 2020, 03:52:21 PM
I love Alice Cooper (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__YxWnRACxI)

He made me. My folks put Killer on , threw the headphones on my ears , and I was a happy camper.

shifting gears bro. Warning to Killer I'm in !!!
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Post by: wolfking on May 15, 2020, 04:08:40 PM: The Warning is just an amazing metal album.
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Post by: TAC on May 15, 2020, 04:22:42 PM: OK, Max, sorry I changed the subject on you.

The run of En Force-Deliverance-No Sanctuary-NM-Take Hold Of The Flame is so freaking killer. And yes, Roads To Madness is godly.

If I could only take say 25 albums with me to a desert island, both Warning and Killer easily make the trip.
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Post by: max_security on May 15, 2020, 04:40:34 PM: My 16 year old daughter is really into " Queen " ( as they have been dramatized by the media for the last couple of years ). I told her from the start that it is " Queensryche " that you should be " idolizing " and that they got it wrong. She is starting to understand what I was talking about , lol.

Shoot man , you guys have been burning this flame more dedicated than I have , I am a guest in your house. I'll chime in once in awhile , we're all on the same team.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 15, 2020, 05:16:25 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 15, 2020, 04:40:34 PM
Shoot man , you guys have been burning this flame more dedicated than I have , I am a guest in your house. I'll chime in once in awhile , we're all on the same team.

Post counts don't matter to old school metalers. :2metal:
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Post by: TAC on May 15, 2020, 05:22:50 PM: It's not the post counts, but the posts that count.
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Post by: max_security on May 15, 2020, 06:20:09 PM: I fought the good fight for a long time , life got in my way at one point lol ( house , kids in the 90's ). Shit I still have all of my gear as well as the songs in my head.

But much appreciated fellows. Shoot man it's all about pieces of wood and steel and what some guys did with it in the end. Many created some magical sounds and thats what we're talking about.

But yeah , I'd like to see a serious documentary on Queensryche , AND Alice Cooper. Either ( both ) would make for an interesting story even only telling half of the truth , lol.
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Post by: TAC on May 15, 2020, 06:27:03 PM: For Alice, check out Super Duper Alice Cooper. It's done by the same guys that did Flight 666 and the Rush doc. Banger Films.
It's an amazing film and the way they did it was incredible. They told the story using the voices of the participants (Alice, his band, etc...) while never actually showng anyone on camera. It was all done against the backdrop of pictures and film footage. It's really incredible.

Asfar as QR, just check out Samsara's site!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2020, 10:06:14 AM: The Warning is just a spectacular album, and like the maxster said, En Force is such a bad ass tune and has always been one of my favorites. And also one of the coolest tunes in the entire QR discography is NM156. Amazing song on an amazing album. Like Tim mentioned, check out Sam’s QR page, he really is a wealth of QR knowledge.

In regards to the new Primal Fear song, it hurts to say this......but it’s solid lol. I know the band is basically built on being a generic heavy metal band and generic rock/metal is all I pretty much listen to but this seems like the band really going through the motions on this tune. Definitely still a good tune but nothing that I’m going out of my way to listen to. Not even remotely in the league of “Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove” or “Roller Coaster”.
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Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2020, 02:51:18 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 15, 2020, 04:40:34 PM
My 16 year old daughter is really into " Queen " ( as they have been dramatized by the media for the last couple of years ). I told her from the start that it is " Queensryche " that you should be " idolizing " and that they got it wrong. She is starting to understand what I was talking about , lol.

Shoot man , you guys have been burning this flame more dedicated than I have , I am a guest in your house. I'll chime in once in awhile , we're all on the same team.

You are always welcome in our house mate. Stay and visit as often and as much as you like mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2020, 02:53:29 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 16, 2020, 10:06:14 AM
The Warning is just a spectacular album, and like the maxster said, En Force is such a bad ass tune and has always been one of my favorites. And also one of the coolest tunes in the entire QR discography is NM156. Amazing song on an amazing album. Like Tim mentioned, check out Sam’s QR page, he really is a wealth of QR knowledge.

In regards to the new Primal Fear song, it hurts to say this......but it’s solid lol. I know the band is basically built on being a generic heavy metal band and generic rock/metal is all I pretty much listen to but this seems like the band really going through the motions on this tune. Definitely still a good tune but nothing that I’m going out of my way to listen to. Not even remotely in the league of “Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove” or “Roller Coaster”.

Yeah, I just hope it's the token 'I love metal' song for the album and the rest is more what we have been getting.

Speaking of Iron Fist, I never understood that song being a bonus track.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 04:48:22 AM: Karlsson stepping up the songwriting a little here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hKGOWwREMs

This vocalist.......he's..... simply fucking incredible.

Sorry, probably should have been in the wuss thread haha.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 17, 2020, 04:55:54 AM: I saw that posted, but I'm saving myself for the full album release. Nice to see you think so highly of it though. I'm very eager now - like I wasn't in the first place!
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 05:05:29 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 17, 2020, 04:55:54 AM
Nice to see you think so highly of it though.

I don't think me thinking highly of a Magnus Karlsson songs says much Chad. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2020, 10:56:50 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 04:48:22 AM
Karlsson stepping up the songwriting a little here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hKGOWwREMs

This vocalist.......he's..... simply fucking incredible.

Sorry, probably should have been in the wuss thread haha.

Agreed. What a voice. You just know he’s going to be everywhere for the next few years like Ronnie Romero was.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 17, 2020, 06:08:28 PM: His main band are more of a bluesy rock thing that (from what I have heard) doesn't appeal to me all that much - hopefully he now makes the move into some more hard rock/metal stuff. No doubt Frontiers will now get him into their project roster.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 06:31:31 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 17, 2020, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 04:48:22 AM
Karlsson stepping up the songwriting a little here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hKGOWwREMs

This vocalist.......he's..... simply fucking incredible.

Sorry, probably should have been in the wuss thread haha.

Agreed. What a voice. You just know he’s going to be everywhere for the next few years like Ronnie Romero was.

This guy trumps Ronnie for mine.

Quote from: bl5150 on May 17, 2020, 06:08:28 PM
His main band are more of a bluesy rock thing that (from what I have heard) doesn't appeal to me all that much - hopefully he now makes the move into some more hard rock/metal stuff. No doubt Frontiers will now get him into their project roster.

Yeah, I sampled a song and didn't like it and it didn't show off his voice like Karlsson has here. I'm sure we'll hear more from him. Cool that he's on two songs on the album also.
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Post by: TAC on May 17, 2020, 06:32:38 PM: Definitely. I'd be fine if I never heard Ronnie Romero again.
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2020, 06:34:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 17, 2020, 06:32:38 PM
Definitely. I'd be fine if I never heard Ronnie Romero again.

:lol

I like the Ferrymen, mainly because it's a Karlsson project and while Ronnie is a good vocalist, I find him pretty overrated too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 18, 2020, 01:28:48 PM: I don’t mind him at all but the overexposure is getting a bit much.
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Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2020, 04:49:14 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 18, 2020, 01:28:48 PM
I don’t mind him at all but the overexposure is getting a bit much.

I simply can't get into Lords of Black either. Don't know what people see/hear in them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 19, 2020, 04:03:43 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 18, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on May 18, 2020, 01:28:48 PM
I don’t mind him at all but the overexposure is getting a bit much.

I simply can't get into Lords of Black either. Don't know what people see/hear in them.

yeah, nothing special about them. He suffers a bit from Ripper Owens syndrome - being talented but appearing on stuff that isn't great, the stuff with Karlsson aside. I know you won't agree about Ripper ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 19, 2020, 04:37:50 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 18, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on May 18, 2020, 01:28:48 PM
I don’t mind him at all but the overexposure is getting a bit much.

I simply can't get into Lords of Black either. Don't know what people see/hear in them.

(https://i.imgur.com/f73NPpx.gif)

Curious where all this overexposure is coming from? In the past 5 years, he's been in 4 bands that have released albums (Lords of Black, CoreLeoni, Destinia, and The Ferrymen), and toured with Rainbow. He's done a handful of guest spots on top of that. I wouldn't consider that overexposure.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2020, 05:19:15 AM: He fit like a glove in CoreLeoni (Gotthard) but looks like it ain't happening.............would be a much better replacement for Steve Lee than Nic Maeder.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 19, 2020, 08:06:40 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 19, 2020, 04:37:50 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 18, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on May 18, 2020, 01:28:48 PM
I don’t mind him at all but the overexposure is getting a bit much.

I simply can't get into Lords of Black either. Don't know what people see/hear in them.

(https://i.imgur.com/f73NPpx.gif)

Curious where all this overexposure is coming from? In the past 5 years, he's been in 4 bands that have released albums (Lords of Black, CoreLeoni, Destinia, and The Ferrymen), and toured with Rainbow. He's done a handful of guest spots on top of that. I wouldn't consider that overexposure.

Probably because he pops up on my facebook all the time. Throw Rainbow in, Vandenberg, Sinner's Santa Muerte album. Hell, he'll be on the next Avantasia, you watch.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on May 20, 2020, 02:06:23 PM: Racer - X . This is what Priest should have been doing in 87.

https://youtu.be/TmmtEoZQonA
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 20, 2020, 02:19:19 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 20, 2020, 02:06:23 PM
Racer - X . This is what Priest should have been doing in 87.

https://youtu.be/TmmtEoZQonA

The Priest version of this song was on their Metalogy collection from years ago, and after comparing the two versions, I definitely give the nod to Racer X. Halford recorded a different version which was on Live Insurrection and it was also better than the Priest version. As far as Racer X goes, great underrated band- Sunlit Nights is my favorite song from them.
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Post by: max_security on May 20, 2020, 02:40:23 PM: I remember when this came out , and it just showed that JP got lazy on guitar. That Racer - X cover is very restrained and 20X better than what Tipton and Downing could do on their best day back then.

My favorite was / is " Blowin Up The Radio " from Racer - X. The album ( Street Lethal ) and cassette had the warning sticker about the guitar being so fast that it could be a health risk , lol.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 20, 2020, 04:20:57 PM: “Into the Night” from Street Lethal is also kick ass!
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Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2020, 04:29:44 PM: Quote from: max_security on May 20, 2020, 02:40:23 PM
I remember when this came out , and it just showed that JP got lazy on guitar. That Racer - X cover is very restrained and 20X better than what Tipton and Downing could do on their best day back then.

My favorite was / is " Blowin Up The Radio " from Racer - X. The album ( Street Lethal ) and cassette had the warning sticker about the guitar being so fast that it could be a health risk , lol.

I can't really agree with this. I haven't listened to that Racer X album for a while but while Gilbert and Bouillet are masters, especially Gilbert, Tipton is something magical and has always been a special, one of a kind guitarist. To me anyway. While he's not the shredder these guys are, his solos are some of the most technical and well constructed, tasteful solos around.

Turbo was a bit light on in the solo department due to the direction the band was going but RID has the title track, Heavy Metal and I'm A Rocker. Those 3 are some of Glenn's best and favs of mine. Glenn came out swining even more with Painkiller too.

Saying all that, I've just found Glenn a special and influential guitarist, so I may have blinkers on but will have to revist that Racer X album too.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 20, 2020, 04:31:28 PM: That sounds like a subjective opinion to me Wolfster. But then again, it could be objective. I’ll go with objectively subjective.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 20, 2020, 06:05:53 PM: When it comes to Racer X (when I was young) I just listened to one song over and over - Scarified.
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Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2020, 06:36:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 20, 2020, 06:05:53 PM
When it comes to Racer X (when I was young) I just listened to one song over and over - Scarified.

That's an absolute classic. When you think Racer X, I too think Scarified.
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Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2020, 06:39:54 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 20, 2020, 04:31:28 PM
That sounds like a subjective opinion to me Wolfster. But then again, it could be objective. I’ll go with objectively subjective.

Both opinions could be subjectively objective. Or they could be objectively subjective, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: max_security on May 20, 2020, 06:50:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2020, 06:36:47 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 20, 2020, 06:05:53 PM
When it comes to Racer X (when I was young) I just listened to one song over and over - Scarified.

That's an absolute classic. When you think Racer X, I too think Scarified.

Or " Scit Scat Wah "
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Post by: TAC on May 20, 2020, 07:49:43 PM: So I was watching abut a half hour of this show:
https://youtu.be/lWbMu0DUzXU?t=1308

It's Motley Crue in Ohio '87.

A couple thoughts:

I LOVE daytime outdoor shows.

Say what you want about about Motley Crue, but I saw them in '85, '87' & '89, and they were great and entertaining shows. So while I thought Theater Of Pain and Girls Girls Girls both blew, the tours were great.

It's linked up to start at Ten Seconds To Love, which might be my favorite Crue tune.
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Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2020, 08:22:45 PM: Never heard a full MC album. I should change that. I just never cared for the songs I've heard.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 20, 2020, 08:35:05 PM: Start with Shout at the Devil, that's their best album IMO.
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Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2020, 11:33:51 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 20, 2020, 08:35:05 PM
Start with Shout at the Devil, that's their best album IMO.

I may just do that J.
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Post by: max_security on May 21, 2020, 02:04:40 AM: I like Too Fast For Love ( first album ). It's raw as F for a studio album but the performances and songs are great. Back in high school my band played most of the first two albums .
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 21, 2020, 03:05:38 AM: Quote from: max_security on May 21, 2020, 02:04:40 AM
I like Too Fast For Love ( first album ). It's raw as F for a studio album but the performances and songs are great.

This. Dr. Feelgood sits in my Top 50 of all time. I thought they did a masterful job of blending their original style with commercial accessibility. Theatre of Pain and Girls³ were way too hard of an effort to be commercial. And I agree with Tim ... they both blew as a result. Nikki's near-death experience brought out some better writing from him - at least for one album.
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Post by: Podaar on May 21, 2020, 05:29:05 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2020, 07:49:43 PM
It's linked up to start at Ten Seconds To Love, which might be my favorite Crue tune.

I'll bet I could ruin that song for you forever with one word change of the lyrics.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 21, 2020, 11:01:40 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 21, 2020, 03:05:38 AM
Quote from: max_security on May 21, 2020, 02:04:40 AM
I like Too Fast For Love ( first album ). It's raw as F for a studio album but the performances and songs are great.

This. Dr. Feelgood sits in my Top 50 of all time. I thought they did a masterful job of blending their original style with commercial accessibility. Theatre of Pain and Girls³ were way too hard of an effort to be commercial. And I agree with Tim ... they both blew as a result. Nikki's near-death experience brought out some better writing from him - at least for one album.

As Chad says, Dr Feelgood is a classic 80s album. Shout At The Devil is great. The debut is great but raw and more glam. The rest can pretty much be forgotten about, though Primal Scream is a good song from their greatest hits album.

It’s weird. I consider myself a Crue fan but most of their discog is shit 🤔
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 21, 2020, 04:17:39 PM: I know what you are saying Paul.

The debut and SATD are heavier and harder edge. Theatre, Girls and Feelgood are all great, but I found a bit too poppy/sugary. If they would have just made the albums a bit more guitar heavy, I would like them even more. But overall, the first five Crue albums are all classic rock/metal and I enjoy them all.

The self titled really has to be classified on it's own as it's a completely different sound and vibe. I thought it was pretty good, but nothing I would go out of my way to listen to.

However, Generation Swine, New Tattoo and Saints, besides a handful of songs, are terrible.
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2020, 04:20:13 PM: The only post Dr Feelgood album from them that I have ever heard is Saints Of Los Angeles. I heard the song and bought the album right off. The song is one of their best tracks, but I literally don't remember a damn thing about the album, other than the fact that no song was nearly as good as the title track.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 21, 2020, 04:27:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2020, 04:20:13 PM
The only post Dr Feelgood album from them that I have ever heard is Saints Of Los Angeles. I heard the song and bought the album right off. The song is one of their best tracks, but I literally don't remember a damn thing about the album, other than the fact that no song was nearly as good as the title track.

I agree 100%. Easily the best Crue song post Dr Feelgood and the best song on that album. The rest of Saints was pure tripe. I remember both Saints of Los Angeles and Priest's Nostradamus came out at the same time. After listening to both and thinking both were basically garbage, I really thought why am I listening to these albums when I could just listen to Shout at the Devil and Screaming for Vengeance.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 21, 2020, 04:48:00 PM: I was hugely disappointed in Theater of Pain. Haven’t played it in years. Girls is half great, half average. I didn’t like the self titled apart from Poison Apples. Generation Swine I never even bothered with.

I did get New Tattoo and I played it last week. It was ok. I liked Saints when it came out but haven’t played it in years.

I had tickets for the tour back in the 80s that was cancelled because Doc McGhee thought Nikki was going to die. They said it was because there was too much snow on the roof of the venue. There wasn’t any.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2020, 05:40:21 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 21, 2020, 04:48:00 PM
They said it was because there was too much snow on the roof of the venue. There wasn’t any.

That sounds like code for something :lol

I pretty much mirror what you and Jay said re their albums. Girls , Girls , Girls has a couple of my faves in Wildside and All In The Name Of...... but yeah - like much of their stuff , lotsa filla.

I also agree with the many comments about SOLA - good title track and then ::)

The Corabi album seems to be extremely well regarded but the couple of times i tried it , I didn't "get it."
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2020, 05:45:11 PM: I didn't try it because I "get it".
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2020, 04:32:31 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2020, 05:45:11 PM
I didn't try it because I "get it".

:rollin :rollin

As Brent eludes to, I gotta think snow on the roof was more like blow up Nikki’s nose.
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2020, 05:02:10 AM: Shit, look at all this Crue talk. Looks like I have to check out an album now haha.
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on May 22, 2020, 07:42:57 AM: So I was born long after their heyday and I generally don't give a crap about most Crue songs I've heard, but I watched The Dirt the other day and thought it was cute and funny, and the actors were great. I knew most of their bio facts but watching it all play out on screen was shocking at times. Had to laugh at how clean and choreographed the ~rock show~ scenes looked; I don't doubt they had a lot of model-gorgeous people on their shows being in LA and all but most of the extras don't look or act like the people who attended any of the shows I've seen ::) but that's how movies are made I guess.
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Post by: max_security on May 22, 2020, 07:44:24 AM: Tonight , Live , in New York City , THIS IS TALAS !!!...

https://youtu.be/dPXfRuR-8tY

34:04 on that link if it's not qued.

My hero Billy Sheehan on Bass . He played some wild stuff back then , he used an Eventide H9 with Pierce pre-amps and racks full of gear. He has always made stuff way more complicated than it needed to be , in the name of creativity and entertainment. One of the GREATS for sure !!!
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Post by: max_security on May 22, 2020, 10:41:35 AM: I'm going to try and stay in this thread , I get flustered if I go " out there ".
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2020, 10:50:37 AM: :lol :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2020, 11:18:58 AM: Bruce Kulick has just posted to Facebook that his brother Bob has passed away. Great player. Sad news.
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Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2020, 02:53:28 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 29, 2020, 11:18:58 AM
Bruce Kulick has just posted to Facebook that his brother Bob has passed away. Great player. Sad news.

Oh wow. Loved his work on the Crimson Idol. RIP.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2020, 03:27:43 PM: Sad news
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Post by: Lowdz on June 04, 2020, 04:22:18 PM: Anyone played the new Vandenberg album? Really enjoyed it on first listen today. Good old school stuff.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 04, 2020, 07:40:16 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 04, 2020, 04:22:18 PM
Anyone played the new Vandenberg album? Really enjoyed it on first listen today. Good old school stuff.

This is the first I’ve heard of a new Vandenberg. Just played the track Shitstorm. That shit rocks :metal, sounds a bit like Whitesnake.
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Post by: TAC on June 04, 2020, 08:52:01 PM: Not really sure where to put this, so I'll put it here.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/steve-priest-dies-bassist-who-co-founded-sweet-was-72/ar-BB153kjJ
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Post by: Bolsters on June 07, 2020, 07:07:22 AM: So apparently this guy (https://youtu.be/HRkKX4eNYDc) is still going. Who buys this though? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2020, 08:08:38 AM: Quote from: Bolsters on June 07, 2020, 07:07:22 AM
So apparently this guy (https://youtu.be/HRkKX4eNYDc) is still going. Who buys this though? :lol

Great guitarist (often not a great writer) but everything I have heard from his latest material is about as convincing as his rug. Sounds like he's trying to go "modern."

The YT comments are raving about it, so good for him :)
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2020, 02:27:03 PM: Yeah I thought that song was really bad actually.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2020, 04:58:24 AM: Saw that a couple of weeks ago. Awful.He can write some nice stuff but those stupidly fast runs all sound the same and are ever present. I do like watching his instructional stuff, he's a funny guy. The only album I really like by him is the Holland album, Little Monsters, from back in the day.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 10, 2020, 06:36:52 PM: R.I.P. Paul Chapman.

I first heard him on Waysted's Save Your Prayers which is/was a real AOR/hard rock treasure . I can't say I have ever listened to his UFO albums a great deal , but I am sure there are a couple in here who rate TWTWATI very highly. Sad news.
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Post by: TAC on June 10, 2020, 06:39:09 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 10, 2020, 06:36:52 PM
R.I.P. Paul Chapman.

I first heard him on Waysted's Save Your Prayers which is/was a real AOR/hard rock treasure . I can't say I have ever listened to his UFO albums a great deal , but I am sure there are a couple in here who rate TWTWATI very highly. Sad news.

OH shit!!!!!!!!!

For some reason I knew you were posting a death. I thought Alice Cooper.

God damn...

Thoughts later.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 10, 2020, 10:39:58 PM: When it comes to UFO, my respect to the band goes to TAC......sorry Tim :(
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Post by: wolfking on June 10, 2020, 11:08:28 PM: Very sad indeed. RIP.
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Post by: TAC on June 11, 2020, 06:45:42 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 10, 2020, 10:39:58 PM
When it comes to UFO, my respect to the band goes to TAC......sorry Tim :(

Thank you. ;D

I’ll have a post on it later. I was really bummed last night.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 11, 2020, 07:09:43 AM: Just had a look at the video for Let It Rain and am gonna spin Save Your Prayers :metal

On a guitar related note , I added quite a nice one to my collection this week. Any of you guitar nuts want to check it out , I made a post in the Musicians board.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 11, 2020, 10:41:12 AM: Yeah I wanna see. Which thread? Can’t see it.

No worries. Found it. I never look at the stickies :facepalm:
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Post by: Lowdz on June 11, 2020, 10:45:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 10, 2020, 06:36:52 PM
R.I.P. Paul Chapman.

I first heard him on Waysted's Save Your Prayers which is/was a real AOR/hard rock treasure . I can't say I have ever listened to his UFO albums a great deal , but I am sure there are a couple in here who rate TWTWATI very highly. Sad news.

All his UFO albums were decent to great. Slow start with No Place To Run, but after that, great.
My first gig was UFO on the WW&I tour. He was excellent.
Save Your Prayers is indeed a great album though I never bothered with any other Waysted albums.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 11, 2020, 02:03:26 PM: Another killer cover from At The Movies
https://youtu.be/REXpzTtplZg
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Post by: TAC on June 12, 2020, 05:00:26 PM: http://bravewords.com/news/autograph-to-headline-socially-distanced-colorado-freedom-festival-mini-on-june-20

But what the article fails to mention is that it's because nobody bought any tickets! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on June 16, 2020, 07:56:30 PM: .
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Post by: TAC on June 16, 2020, 08:10:17 PM: WTF? So you literally talk out of your ass? Why are we looking at your crotch while you are talking? :lol
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Post by: TAC on June 16, 2020, 08:16:18 PM: Did you slip some Winger in there?? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on June 16, 2020, 08:18:39 PM: Mr Crabs should worry about his own crotch :lol

If you want HD multicam I'll have another go some other time :p
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Post by: Lowdz on June 17, 2020, 03:17:50 AM: Played the Magnus Karlsson's Free Fall album yesterday. Excellent, as expected. Nice to hear Tony Martin again. He's still got it.
The guitar playing is killer.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 17, 2020, 04:29:34 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 17, 2020, 03:17:50 AM
Played the Magnus Karlsson's Free Fall album yesterday. Excellent, as expected. Nice to hear Tony Martin again. He's still got it.
The guitar playing is killer.

I think Tony Martin is very much a studio only proposition these days. Will be good to hear him on new material though.

Last I heard he was filling in with Kings Of Madness (ex Magnum dudes)
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Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2020, 05:10:42 AM: I read an article on Blabbermouth about Magnus open to a whole album with Tony but what's funny is, is that Martin sounds like an absolute flog. I'm on my phone but will link it to tomorrow.
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Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2020, 05:11:02 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 17, 2020, 03:17:50 AM
Played the Magnus Karlsson's Free Fall album yesterday. Excellent, as expected. Nice to hear Tony Martin again. He's still got it.
The guitar playing is killer.

Great to hear.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 19, 2020, 10:57:09 AM: Against my better judgment I played the new House Of Lords album today. I didn’t like any of the tracks released so far but enjoyed the album today. The production is shit, the vocals have some weird processing on them and the guitars sound off, but I enjoyed it.

Maybe listening at work and getting paid for it helped? 😀
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Post by: TAC on June 19, 2020, 02:39:45 PM: That post is the definition of insanity.
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Post by: wolfking on June 19, 2020, 02:50:02 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 19, 2020, 10:57:09 AM
Against my better judgment I played the new House Of Lords album today. I didn’t like any of the tracks released so far but enjoyed the album today. The production is shit, the vocals have some weird processing on them and the guitars sound off, but I enjoyed it.

Maybe listening at work and getting paid for it helped? 😀

I haven't listened to a single song since the first one was released. That was enough for me.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 19, 2020, 03:13:59 PM: Quote from: Mr. Crabs on June 19, 2020, 02:39:45 PM
That post is the definition of insanity.

The irony is not lost on me. My working life is about working with crazy people 🤪
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Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2020, 05:24:18 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/magnus-karlsson-has-talked-to-ex-black-sabbath-singer-tony-martin-about-collaborating-on-full-album/

Swedish guitarist, songwriter and producer Magnus Karlsson says he is open to recording a full-length album with Tony Martin after previously collaborating with the former BLACK SABBATH singer on three songs from his solo project MAGNUS KARLSSON'S FREE FALL. "I asked him, and we talked about it, but it didn't happen yet," Magnus told Jeff Gaudiosi of MisplacedStraws.com in a new interview. "But maybe. He didn't say no, but he really wants it to be the right songs and we have to work on it. I already sent him some tracks, and he had to think about it. So he's a little picky, but that's great. He's also the only one on the FREE FALL albums that writes his own lyrics and melodies too. Because he said, 'When you hire me, you don't just hire a singer — you hire the whole thing, with my approach to melodies and lyrics.' And I said, 'Yes, that's fine.'"

:rollin

Who the fuck does he think he is? :lol Magnus is like, "yeah whatever dude." lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 21, 2020, 05:57:40 AM: Bad decision and attitude by Tony. At this point he should be jumping at an opportunity like this. Implying that he is Tony f$&@ing Martin doesn’t cut it as most people wouldn’t care.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2020, 02:02:52 PM: And yet he made those Mollo Martin albums 😱😀
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Post by: gazinwales on June 21, 2020, 02:24:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 21, 2020, 05:57:40 AM
Bad decision and attitude by Tony. At this point he should be jumping at an opportunity like this. Implying that he is Tony f$&@ing Martin doesn’t cut it as most people wouldn’t care.

Hardly, we don't know the full story, maybe the songs weren't right for him, or he couldn't come up with suitable lyrics/melodies?
Either way it's his decision and he must have his reasons.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 21, 2020, 02:34:14 PM: I did like the two new Martin tunes on this album; Tony’s voice goes well with Karlssons music
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Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2020, 04:14:38 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 21, 2020, 02:02:52 PM
And yet he made those Mollo Martin albums 😱😀

Lol.

Quote from: gazinwales on June 21, 2020, 02:24:20 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 21, 2020, 05:57:40 AM
Bad decision and attitude by Tony. At this point he should be jumping at an opportunity like this. Implying that he is Tony f$&@ing Martin doesn’t cut it as most people wouldn’t care.

Hardly, we don't know the full story, maybe the songs weren't right for him, or he couldn't come up with suitable lyrics/melodies?
Either way it's his decision and he must have his reasons.

But considering he's already sung 3 songs for Karlsson that's hard to believe. But fair point but he does come across like a douche if you ask me.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 23, 2020, 11:04:48 AM: He does sound very “up himself”.
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Post by: gazinwales on June 23, 2020, 02:29:18 PM: You base your opinion on TM being. a 'douche' and 'up himself' based on what exactly?
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Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2020, 02:55:28 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on June 23, 2020, 02:29:18 PM
You base your opinion on TM being. a 'douche' and 'up himself' based on what exactly?

His language in that article I posted.
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Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2020, 04:04:54 PM: I think I will elaborate since Gaz seems to take some offence to our comments. I love Tony Martin. The Martin era is my fav Sabbath era and some of my all time fav albums. I remember having the VHS of Cross Purposes live when I was in my teens and played the fuck out of it. It was clear Martin wasn't at his best but I loved the whole thing. The performance, Tony's performance, it was just a joy to watch for me.

IMO, what Tony has done since is disappointing. There's been some cool stuff. The Giuntini albums were solid and especially the third one sticks out, that's some nice melodic rock. I didn't care much of what I heard from the Cage but the third one I thought was decent. The Rondinelli album too was alright. His last solo album was disappointing and on a whole, it's just a shame that he hasn't done more quality stuff because his voice is so good. I was so pumped at the 'Black' project that was announced with Andy LaRocque and Magnus Rosen, but never to be heard of again.

Magnus getting him on his Freefall album and sounding as good as he does was a great move. And Martin returning for two songs on this new album shows he likes what Magnus is doing. Perhaps Gaz is simply right, maybe what Magnus sent wasn't for Tony for some reason. Magnus does say himself there that he seems picky. But that's his right to have that stance. I think the comments from him here come across a bit arrogant just because, while he obviously doesn't have to commit to things that he doesn't like or don't suit him, just with how underwhelming his discography is, it just seems maybe he has a chip on his shoulder, or has a higher opinion of himself than perhaps he should. I mean, it seems songwriters aren't banging down the doors to get him to sing their songs. Or yet, maybe they are he just has this stance across the board and feels things aren't good enough for him. It's his right, but Magnus writes pretty similar songs across the board so for him to throw stuff back and him and say songs don't work seems odd, but who I am to say. I love the guy and his voice, I wish he did a lot more recording, but comments like this makes him appear that he has a higher opinion of himself than maybe he should. Just my opinion.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 23, 2020, 04:17:19 PM: That sums it up well Wolf. I remember thinking some songs on that Rondenelli album and his solo album Scream definitely had the old school Martin era Sabbath vibe, but seemed inconsistent overall. I haven’t listened to them in years but that’s what I recall. It seems like a long shot but maybe the Tony’s can get together for a project of some kind in the future.
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Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2020, 10:48:28 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 23, 2020, 04:17:19 PM
That sums it up well Wolf. I remember thinking some songs on that Rondenelli album and his solo album Scream definitely had the old school Martin era Sabbath vibe, but seemed inconsistent overall. I haven’t listened to them in years but that’s what I recall. It seems like a long shot but maybe the Tony’s can get together for a project of some kind in the future.

Not sure if things have changed since this but in the same article;

In a 2012 interview with Über Röck, Martin said that he was "surprised" to see Tony Iommi criticizing him in the guitarist's "Iron Man: My Journey Through Heaven And Hell With Black Sabbath" book (referring to the Martin period, especially the touring phase following the release of "Cross Purposes" in 1994, Iommi lambasted his former singer as "unprofessional" and having "no stage presence"). Martin said: "I mean, they never said anything to me. Surely, if you've got a problem, the first person you should say something to is the person that's in the band with you... It sounds like a really stupid thing to say, as they didn't say anything to my face — and, if that's the case, then more fool them for not saying anything, because, you know, we could have fixed it. I said to them, endlessly, that if there was anything they wanted changed, done differently, just to say and we could fix it, but clearly, they didn't, they hadn't got the guts to, obviously, and to write about it in a book afterwards seems a bit daft to me. I'm not bitter about it, but it is surprising... It seems a bit stupid to say that after the event."
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Post by: gazinwales on June 24, 2020, 03:11:32 AM: Not offended at all, just can't understand your opinion based on alleged comments that he would do a full album of songs with MK.
Maybe he has unused himself over the years, but that is his choice.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 24, 2020, 05:37:48 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on June 24, 2020, 03:11:32 AM
Not offended at all, just can't understand your opinion based on alleged comments that he would do a full album of songs with MK.
Maybe he has unused himself over the years, but that is his choice.

True Gaz.
I guess it would seem strange that Tony wouldn't jump at the chance to do a great album with the go to man in the genre he's known for. But it's his career and he has to be happy with what's on offer before committing himself. Magnus seemed a bit surprised by his caution.
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Post by: ozzy554 on June 24, 2020, 01:00:58 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 23, 2020, 10:48:28 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 23, 2020, 04:17:19 PM
That sums it up well Wolf. I remember thinking some songs on that Rondenelli album and his solo album Scream definitely had the old school Martin era Sabbath vibe, but seemed inconsistent overall. I haven’t listened to them in years but that’s what I recall. It seems like a long shot but maybe the Tony’s can get together for a project of some kind in the future.

Not sure if things have changed since this but in the same article;

In a 2012 interview with Über Röck, Martin said that he was "surprised" to see Tony Iommi criticizing him in the guitarist's "Iron Man: My Journey Through Heaven And Hell With Black Sabbath" book (referring to the Martin period, especially the touring phase following the release of "Cross Purposes" in 1994, Iommi lambasted his former singer as "unprofessional" and having "no stage presence"). Martin said: "I mean, they never said anything to me. Surely, if you've got a problem, the first person you should say something to is the person that's in the band with you... It sounds like a really stupid thing to say, as they didn't say anything to my face — and, if that's the case, then more fool them for not saying anything, because, you know, we could have fixed it. I said to them, endlessly, that if there was anything they wanted changed, done differently, just to say and we could fix it, but clearly, they didn't, they hadn't got the guts to, obviously, and to write about it in a book afterwards seems a bit daft to me. I'm not bitter about it, but it is surprising... It seems a bit stupid to say that after the event."

Yeah they met up about a year ago and seem to be on friendly terms.

(https://i.redd.it/na8mzqd4lld21.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2020, 02:34:05 PM: That's good to see.
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Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2020, 02:35:15 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 24, 2020, 05:37:48 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on June 24, 2020, 03:11:32 AM
Not offended at all, just can't understand your opinion based on alleged comments that he would do a full album of songs with MK.
Maybe he has unused himself over the years, but that is his choice.

True Gaz.
I guess it would seem strange that Tony wouldn't jump at the chance to do a great album with the go to man in the genre he's known for. But it's his career and he has to be happy with what's on offer before committing himself. Magnus seemed a bit surprised by his caution.

Yeah fair enough Gaz.

Yeah, Magnus did seem a little WTF? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on June 24, 2020, 05:18:36 PM: Once you start wearing bandanas ............
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Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2020, 06:07:07 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 24, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
Once you start wearing bandanas ............

:yarr
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 24, 2020, 06:29:18 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 24, 2020, 06:07:07 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 24, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
Once you start wearing bandanas ............

:yarr

I don’t want to be a pirate
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Post by: TAC on June 24, 2020, 06:29:51 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 24, 2020, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 24, 2020, 06:07:07 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 24, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
Once you start wearing bandanas ............

:yarr

I don’t want to be a pirate

Everyone wants to be a pirate!!
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Post by: TAC on June 24, 2020, 08:04:36 PM: So, for no good reason, I thought I'd drop the needle on the Vandenberg 2020 album.

Are you fucking kidding me?? Ronnie Romero is even on this?? Fuck that!

I shut it off.
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Post by: ozzy554 on June 24, 2020, 08:06:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 24, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
Once you start wearing bandanas ............

Not his worst look

(https://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2012/03/2011-03-22_tony_martin_02.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on June 24, 2020, 08:36:01 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on June 24, 2020, 08:06:32 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 24, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
Once you start wearing bandanas ............

Not his worst look

(https://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2012/03/2011-03-22_tony_martin_02.jpg)

Haha - I was thinking of the Bret Michaels/Axl Rose personality might be rubbing off :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2020, 08:40:27 PM: Quote from: Mr. Crabs on June 24, 2020, 08:04:36 PM
So, for no good reason, I thought I'd drop the needle on the Vandenberg 2020 album.

Are you fucking kidding me?? Ronnie Romero is even on this?? Fuck that!

I shut it off.

:rollin
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 25, 2020, 04:34:54 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 24, 2020, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: Mr. Crabs on June 24, 2020, 08:04:36 PM
So, for no good reason, I thought I'd drop the needle on the Vandenberg 2020 album.

Are you fucking kidding me?? Ronnie Romero is even on this?? Fuck that!

I shut it off.

:rollin

Not enough growls for you?? :lol Unsurprisingly, I found it rather enjoyable.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 25, 2020, 05:42:42 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 25, 2020, 04:34:54 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 24, 2020, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: Mr. Crabs on June 24, 2020, 08:04:36 PM
So, for no good reason, I thought I'd drop the needle on the Vandenberg 2020 album.

Are you fucking kidding me?? Ronnie Romero is even on this?? Fuck that!

I shut it off.

:rollin

Not enough growls for you?? :lol Unsurprisingly, I found it rather enjoyable.

I thought it was very good. I thought loss of taste was a symptom of covid 19. Seems Tim's got it with Crabs! :rollin
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Post by: TAC on June 25, 2020, 05:50:05 AM: :lol :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 27, 2020, 05:09:06 AM: Not a hard rock song, but from a well known classic hard-rock artist (at least, here in Canada). Jay, you see this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rTDBZo0RjE
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 27, 2020, 10:14:20 AM: I think after all these years i've come to the conclusion Thunder is my favourite Hard Rock band. There's something about their music that's so groovy and tasty. Danny's voice is also a factor.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 27, 2020, 11:51:57 AM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 27, 2020, 10:14:20 AM
I think after all these years i've come to the conclusion Thunder is my favourite Hard Rock band. There's something about their music that's so groovy and tasty. Danny's voice is also a factor.

:tup

I really really like them and although their best records are several years ago, they are still going strong. And Daniel's voice still sounds good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 27, 2020, 11:52:30 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 27, 2020, 05:09:06 AM
Not a hard rock song, but from a well known classic hard-rock artist (at least, here in Canada). Jay, you see this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rTDBZo0RjE

Nice to see something new from Kim!
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 27, 2020, 12:10:45 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 27, 2020, 11:51:57 AM
Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 27, 2020, 10:14:20 AM
I think after all these years i've come to the conclusion Thunder is my favourite Hard Rock band. There's something about their music that's so groovy and tasty. Danny's voice is also a factor.

:tup

I really really like them and although their best records are several years ago, they are still going strong. And Daniel's voice still sounds good.
Yea they're so great live atleast what i've seen on video, sadly I haven't seen them IRL.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 27, 2020, 12:13:56 PM: In regards to Thunder, I was only familiar with Dirty Love. Checking out other songs now.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 27, 2020, 12:19:18 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 27, 2020, 12:13:56 PM
In regards to Thunder, I was only familiar with Dirty Love. Checking out other songs now.
:tup I think my favourites are Laughing on Judgment Day and Backstreet Symphony.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 27, 2020, 02:17:52 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 27, 2020, 12:13:56 PM
In regards to Thunder, I was only familiar with Dirty Love. Checking out other songs now.

Everyone should at least have listened to Laughing On Judgement Day.

Backstreet Symphony, Behind Closed Doors and The Thrill Of It All are also great.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 27, 2020, 03:43:57 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 27, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 27, 2020, 12:13:56 PM
In regards to Thunder, I was only familiar with Dirty Love. Checking out other songs now.

Everyone should at least have listened to Laughing On Judgement Day.

Backstreet Symphony, Behind Closed Doors and The Thrill Of It All are also great.

I'll check it out :tup
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Post by: bl5150 on June 27, 2020, 06:26:55 PM: Laughing On Judgement Day was the only Thunder album I bought as a kid , but struggled with it....something missing in the writing but couldn't put my finger on it. I returned to them later and have enjoyed bits and pieces. Actually 2017's Rip It Up was enjoyable based on my song ratings.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on June 28, 2020, 02:06:49 PM: Thunder was more blues and 70s influenced than a lot of their contemporary bands in the 80s/early 90s. Although that is not groundbreaking in itself it set them apart from a lot of the hair metal bands imo, and it was what made me recognize them in the first place.
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Post by: Lowdz on June 28, 2020, 04:10:40 PM: I was a big fan of the first album but didn’t really go for them after that. Bowes is a great singer.

Saw them live several times and they always delivered.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 05, 2020, 09:35:56 PM: Not bad for a band whose last release was in 1985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf0cUhJevXA
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 05, 2020, 09:45:52 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 05, 2020, 09:35:56 PM
Not bad for a band whose last release was in 1985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf0cUhJevXA

Never heard of them but that was pretty good. Listened to their earlier stuff and besides better quality of the recording, band sounds pretty much the same. How do you release a follow up 35 years later without missing a beat lol. Not much info on glacier on the google
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Post by: bl5150 on July 05, 2020, 09:49:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 05, 2020, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 05, 2020, 09:35:56 PM
Not bad for a band whose last release was in 1985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf0cUhJevXA

Never heard of them but that was pretty good. Listened to their earlier stuff and besides better quality of the recording, band sounds pretty much the same. How do you release a follow up 35 years later without missing a beat lol. Not much info on glacier on the google

I think the vocalist is the only original guy but likely the main writer etc......hence the consistency I guess. They sound a little like another band I got a few into - Twisted Tower Dire. Although , at their best , I would say TTD are a better band than Glacier.

Still...........sounds like an album worth a look later in the year.

Hittman also have a new song out which is alright - didn't mind them back in the day.
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Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2020, 09:53:58 PM: Can always count on Brent to come in and lay down a list of bands no one's ever heard of. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on July 06, 2020, 12:31:45 AM: If you haven't heard this Kade , you should give it a listen and see what you think :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsEbJGsa6hQ
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Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2020, 12:52:15 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 06, 2020, 12:31:45 AM
If you haven't heard this Kade , you should give it a listen and see what you think :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsEbJGsa6hQ

Will check it later tonight mate. :tup
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 06, 2020, 04:25:55 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 06, 2020, 12:31:45 AM
If you haven't heard this Kade , you should give it a listen and see what you think :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsEbJGsa6hQ

You’re right, better than Glacier. Good tune

But Wolf is right, Brent is the master of causing people to say who???? Lol
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Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2020, 04:48:51 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 06, 2020, 12:31:45 AM
If you haven't heard this Kade , you should give it a listen and see what you think :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsEbJGsa6hQ

This fucking rips! :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on July 06, 2020, 05:35:15 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 06, 2020, 04:25:55 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 06, 2020, 12:31:45 AM
If you haven't heard this Kade , you should give it a listen and see what you think :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsEbJGsa6hQ

You’re right, better than Glacier. Good tune

But Wolf is right, Brent is the master of causing people to say who???? Lol

Yup. Even me. I thought my depth of knowledge was pretty deep but realise it wasn't :biggrin:

That Twisted Tower Dire sounds pretty great. Never even heard a whisper about them. I'd have been all over this at the time if I'd heard it. Is it one of those $1000 on eBay jobs?
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Post by: bl5150 on July 06, 2020, 05:40:02 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 06, 2020, 05:35:15 AM
I'd have been all over this at the time if I'd heard it. Is it one of those $1000 on eBay jobs?

Nah.............single figures should be the go.

They aren't "all killer" but their good songs are very good. The album is called Crest Of The Martyrs. Another one of those bands that should've been bigger but nothing fell in to place. The original singer passed away sadly - he had a great voice.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 06, 2020, 05:49:01 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 06, 2020, 05:40:02 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 06, 2020, 05:35:15 AM
I'd have been all over this at the time if I'd heard it. Is it one of those $1000 on eBay jobs?

Nah.............single figures should be the go.

They aren't "all killer" but their good songs are very good. The album is called Crest Of The Martyrs. Another one of those bands that should've been bigger but nothing fell in to place. The original singer passed away sadly - he had a great voice.

The full thing is on Youtube (of course). Listening now as I'm meant to be working... :metal
£36.95 on Amazon :o
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Post by: bl5150 on July 06, 2020, 05:54:35 AM: Before I posted I checked the Discogs marketplace and there's a number for <10 Euro , so I think if you search around you won't have to pay Amazon price.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 06, 2020, 07:07:14 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 06, 2020, 05:54:35 AM
Before I posted I checked the Discogs marketplace and there's a number for <10 Euro , so I think if you search around you won't have to pay Amazon price.

Cool.
Really liked it. That's what power metal should sound like, but doesn't usually. A bit of early Vicious Rumors in it. Not the shite that their new single is.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2020, 11:19:00 AM: Just spun Crest of Martyrs. Pretty nice. Hard core, old school power metal. I dig it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 06, 2020, 11:38:07 AM: Twisted Tower Dire & Glacier :metal :metal

Keep these bad boys coming Brent
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2020, 11:50:22 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 06, 2020, 11:38:07 AM
Twisted Tower Dire & Glacier :metal :metal

Keep these bad boys coming Brent

Rite?!?! It' not like we've gone 3 years without a B&B Podcast. We're in withdrawal!!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 06, 2020, 11:52:07 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 06, 2020, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 06, 2020, 11:38:07 AM
Twisted Tower Dire & Glacier :metal :metal

Keep these bad boys coming Brent

Rite?!?! It' not like we've gone 3 years without a B&B Podcast. We're in withdrawal!!!

Whammy!!
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Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2020, 04:05:39 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 06, 2020, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 06, 2020, 11:38:07 AM
Twisted Tower Dire & Glacier :metal :metal

Keep these bad boys coming Brent

Rite?!?! It' not like we've gone 3 years without a B&B Podcast. We're in withdrawal!!!

Has it really been 3 years!? Wow, time just speeds by.
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Post by: TAC on July 06, 2020, 04:08:06 PM: Yeah, and even that one was a year late. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 06, 2020, 04:24:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 06, 2020, 04:08:06 PM
Yeah, and even that one was a year late. :lol

A podcast a day will keep Tim away from that growlie shit.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2020, 04:58:54 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 06, 2020, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 06, 2020, 04:08:06 PM
Yeah, and even that one was a year late. :lol

A podcast a day will keep Tim away from that growlie shit.

:iagree:
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Post by: bl5150 on July 07, 2020, 09:30:12 PM: The last podcast was in 2019...........not quite 3 years. Who knows...........if my business goes down the toilet I might have time to do one. :lol Was just starting a very gradual return to normal and now we're basically in lockdown again until September (at the earliest) ::)
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Post by: wolfking on July 07, 2020, 10:03:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 07, 2020, 09:30:12 PM
The last podcast was in 2019...........not quite 3 years. Who knows...........if my business goes down the toilet I might have time to do one. :lol Was just starting a very gradual return to normal and now we're basically in lockdown again until September (at the earliest) ::)

I was going to say it, I thought it wasn't that long.

Yeah, was going to PM you mate. You guys are absolutely hurting at the moment. :'(
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Post by: bl5150 on July 07, 2020, 10:32:33 PM: Yeah - and it was seemingly so avoidable. The whole of the country paid a price to keep this thing under control with the first lockdown and we (Melbourne) stuffed up the handling of Aussies returning from overseas. Obviously NSW and Victoria bore the brunt of it due to being the major airports but whichever dickhead decided to employ Dodgy Brothers Security to manage our quarantine hotels would want to lay low for a while. Lots of angst around here.

Every state except ours (due to "jobs for their Union mates) accepted the offer of federal military assistance to manage hotel quarantine.
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Post by: wolfking on July 07, 2020, 11:56:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 07, 2020, 10:32:33 PM
Yeah - and it was seemingly so avoidable. The whole of the country paid a price to keep this thing under control with the first lockdown and we (Melbourne) stuffed up the handling of Aussies returning from overseas. Obviously NSW and Victoria bore the brunt of it due to being the major airports but whichever dickhead decided to employ Dodgy Brothers Security to manage our quarantine hotels would want to lay low for a while. Lots of angst around here.

I could imagine. The cases are increasing so rapidly again too. Feel for you down there mate, and yeah, shouldn't have happened at all. I'm sure some heads are gonna roll if they haven't already.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 07, 2020, 11:59:30 PM: Yep - time for some Judas Priest :metal ;D

The other thing that many think contributed was all the professional troublemakers that used the Black Lives Matter stuff as an excuse to hold a massive protest in the city while everyone else was told to stay cooped up. The Government let it all happen and all the people in lockdown looked at it and thought "Fuck this!" and people started acting out a bit.
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Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2020, 12:48:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 07, 2020, 11:59:30 PM
Yep - time for some Judas Priest :metal ;D

The other thing that many think contributed was all the professional troublemakers that used the Black Lives Matter stuff as an excuse to hold a massive protest in the city while everyone else was told to stay cooped up. The Government let it all happen and all the people in lockdown looked at it and thought "Fuck this!" and people started acting out a bit.

Those protest here just shows we live in a world of stupid fucking sheep. With everything going on with the pandemic and for something that happened in America to cause us to protest and put everyone at risk for no fucking reason or gain is just mind blowing. It never should have happened.

Yes, I shouldn't have made light of it to throw in a Priest reference but I couldn't help myself. :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 03:03:33 AM: Sorry to hear about all of that Brent.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2020, 07:52:10 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 07, 2020, 11:59:30 PM
Yep - time for some Judas Priest :metal ;D

The other thing that many think contributed was all the professional troublemakers that used the Black Lives Matter stuff as an excuse to hold a massive protest in the city while everyone else was told to stay cooped up. The Government let it all happen and all the people in lockdown looked at it and thought "Fuck this!" and people started acting out a bit.

Same has happened here in the UK. Expecting a big spike in the next week or so after everyone went to the beach a couple of weeks ago, rioting and now the reopening of the pubs. Boris is blaming everyone but himself as usual.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 08:00:54 AM: I'm worried that's gonna happen here too. We've gone thru a couple of re-opening phases in 2-week increments, and the full reopening (for the most part) is gonna happen within the next week or so. Time will tell, but I have no faith in people taking the right precautions, and am fully expecting a rise in cases. The jingle.family is still gonna be keeping a low profile.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 08:13:11 AM: Interesting world we live in...............our city (Melbourne) is killing everyone's sanity and jobs/businesses with a return to months of lockdown because we crossed 100 new cases per day for a few days. Florida (which I believe also has a Melbourne) has about 4-5 times the population of Melbourne and is finding 10,000 per day with far less intensive testing and as I understand it just has basic guidance in place for the most part.

I think we should use the Trump method- do less tests and the numbers will fall ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 09:02:17 AM: Jobs and economies will recover. The dead will not.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 09:07:21 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 09:02:17 AM
Jobs and economies will recover. The dead will not.

I agree..............was more a (sarcastic/tongue in cheek) comment on the different approaches overseas rather than ours being wrong. I get my comic relief each day by watching JL Cauvin do his scarily accurate Trump impersonations.

We needed to go back into lockdown - the outbreak was entirely preventable though. Union controlled state government here was the only one in the country that turned down the Federal Government offer of Australian military help to enforce quarantine - so they could give the jobs to their mates in the private security industry who then subcontracted to even more dodgy companies to try and make some coin etc...... Now there's hell to pay and our local economy will be stuffed for years. The first 3-4 months of lockdown did severe damage but this is the final straw.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 01:08:08 PM: “Stuffed for year” is an understatement here. Canada just confirmed an almost $350B deficit for this year, pushing our debt over $1T. More spending this year than anytime since WWII.

So yeah... I thin the DECADE of 2020 is going to stuff all of us.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 02:11:11 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 01:08:08 PM
“Stuffed for year” is an understatement here. Canada just confirmed an almost $350B deficit for this year, pushing our debt over $1T. More spending this year than anytime since WWII.

So yeah... I thin the DECADE of 2020 is going to stuff all of us.

I'm not a fan of 2020
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 02:13:45 PM: It's only half over...
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Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2020, 02:26:09 PM: What’s next? Godzilla?
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Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2020, 02:28:02 PM: I was listening to an interview with Marc Ferrari from Keel and he hinted that there is to be a new Cold Sweat album with the original lineup. Looking forward to that. Their only album is very underrated and Rory Catley is a great and underused singer.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 02:42:11 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 08, 2020, 02:28:02 PM
I was listening to an interview with Marc Ferrari from Keel and he hinted that there is to be a new Cold Sweat album with the original lineup. Looking forward to that. Their only album is very underrated and Rory Catley is a great and underused singer.

Ron Keel will save 2020?? What will Tim think of Keel saving 2020?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 02:43:38 PM: Keel blows and couldn't save whatever years their supposed prime was 30+ years ago.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 03:24:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 08, 2020, 02:43:38 PM
Keel blows and couldn't save whatever years their supposed prime was 30+ years ago.

Tim doesnt have the Right to Rock
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 03:27:06 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 08, 2020, 02:43:38 PM
Keel blows and couldn't save whatever years their supposed prime was 30+ years ago.

Tim doesnt have the Right to Rock

Neither does Ron Keel.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 03:35:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 08, 2020, 03:27:06 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 08, 2020, 02:43:38 PM
Keel blows and couldn't save whatever years their supposed prime was 30+ years ago.

Tim doesnt have the Right to Rock

Neither does Ron Keel.

:metal :metal The Right to F*&%ing Rock.
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Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2020, 03:37:52 PM: :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 03:39:55 PM: I don't know what I'm saying but its funny.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2020, 05:17:43 PM: Keel were a decent band. He let the side down when he went country but that was at least a part of his background. Better than those 80s bands that went grunge
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 05:47:27 PM: I thought Keel blew chunks, but I'll leave it at that as I see I'm outnumbered.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 06:59:13 PM: I spent very little time listening to Keel but put them in a similar basket to Quiet Riot..............a bit heavier at their heaviest and more melodic but similar vibe.

Listening to The Final Frontier now (that makes 2 albums in 2 days - more than the last month :lol ) which seems to be the fave based on my ratings. Very listenable but nothing special about it
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 07:01:51 PM: I think Metal Health is amazing. But a few months back, I listened to Condition Critical, and it simply hasn't held up.

I though Keel was awful. I really did.

I had a copy of The Final Countdown and it was extremely average. Better than Keel though. ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 07:29:49 PM: I love The Final Countdown and never rated Quiet Riot apart from a few songs ;D The guitars/writing were often so basic with QR my ear just drifted..........I actually listened more to the album with Shortino that everyone else hates :lol Keel have a far better grasp of melodic songwriting but I get why that 80's "melodic rock" edge may turn you off.

Listening to that Keel ,the QR vibe just kept coming - I reckon he is actively copying Kevin Dubrow to be honest. Some of the vocal inflections are just too spot on.

Re The Final Countdown .........like with many of us whether we like an album or not can be a product of the personal timeline. When TFC came out I was 12 and had just started to branch out from KISS to Van Halen, Bon Jovi, Europe and soon after Whitesnake/Ozzy with Jake etc.... So it was all about big melodies and big guitars and The Final Countdown fit the bill nicely. I can't say I have listened to it in ages but there wouldn't be too many tracks I would skip (probably Carrie and Time Has Come). Funny how albums from my childhood I can reel off a tracklist but anything released in the last 10 years I wouldn't have a hope in hell.
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 07:32:45 PM: I never bothered with QR after CC. I did buy the first Rough Cutt album, but it was quite meh. I though Shortino had a good voice, but IMO, he needed the perfect scenario and I'm not sure lame LA bar bands were it.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 07:44:41 PM: I agree about Rough Cutt (although Dreamin Again caught my ear at the time as a decent ballad)..............the writing didn't stack up. They're possibly a bit too "melodic rock" for you but if you like Shortino's voice and want to hear it with some decent writing , the most consistent albums he did IMO were:

Shortino/Northrup "Back On Track" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKU49qtvU3M

Badd Boyz s/t : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX_8Srf8PRk

He never really found the right band situation which is a shame as he has a distinctive voice.
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 07:47:20 PM: Hah, you mention Dreamin Again, and I can immediately recall the chorus, and it has literally been 30+ years since I've heard it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 07:48:44 PM: I think Dreamin Again by Rough Cutt is an outstanding ballad
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 07:52:23 PM: Pretty sure I played it on a podcast at some point...........it's about the only song of theirs I would return to but yeah - a real ear worm of a chorus.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 08:13:30 PM: I thought their s/t was a few notches above solid, Cutt Your Heart Out was a good tune
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 08:20:21 PM: They're the kings of lengthy choruses aren't they? ;D

Cutt your heart out.....heart out...........heart out

Oh no I feel I'm dreamin again .......oh no I'm dreamin
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 08:24:24 PM: I really think Dreamin Again could have been a huge hit if it was given some radio play. To me it sounds like a major hit.

Btw I’ve never even heard of the band Ayreon until I clicked on new threads in GMD. I’ll keep it classic rock where I’m comfortable lol
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 08:31:26 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 08:24:24 PM
I really think Dreamin Again could have been a huge hit if it was given some radio play. To me it sounds like a major hit.

Btw I’ve never even heard of the band Ayreon until I clicked on new threads in GMD. I’ll keep it classic rock where I’m comfortable lol

yeah..........I just played it then. You guys are getting me motivated to listen a bit more :metal It's surprisingly heavy in parts , so a really nice "metal ballad"

I've never got the fuss about Ayreon either - his writing doesn't connect with me and I don't immerse myself in concept albums like many around here. If the music's good and catchy (Mindcrime/Crimson Idol) I might take an interest in the concept but otherwise it's not a carrot to me at all. From memory I liked the vibe of his Star One music better. He was actually in the metal band Vengeance Jay , so that might be your connection to the "Ayreon guy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EpyU49IELo
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 08:34:26 PM: Rough Cutt opened the first leg of the Sacred Heart tour when Vivian was still in the band. I saw them on 9/11/85.

Not sure if Rough Cutt was on the same label as Dio, but they got a major push on this tour. I remember buying their first album (on cassette) before the show so I could familiarize myself with it. It really wasn't all that bad. Of course it really wasn't all that good. I'm also pretty sure they had a picture and writeup in the Dio tour program.
I know I still have it. It's been a while since I posted a classic tour program. I'll have to dig that one out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 08:36:33 PM: I won’t even bother with Ayreon lol

But relating to classic rock/metal, Rough Cutt had me thinking. Like I mentioned, Dreamin Again IMO could have been a huge hit if given attention. Can you think of any obscure classic metal/rock bands with a song that you think could have or should have been a hit.

Off the top of my head.

Shark Island- Paris Calling
Banshee- All Alone
House of Lords- O Father
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 08:40:31 PM: Never heard of any of those, but since The UFO Discography And Listening Party Thread is coming together very nicely...

UFO-Looking Out For #1
MSG-Never Trust A Stranger
UFO-Let IT Rain
Waysted-Heaven Tonight
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 08:42:53 PM: I’m very much looking forward to that UFO thread.

Maybe Brent, Paul or Hath can confirm, but I think Shark Island could have been huge. I might be off on that but I think in LA they were being built as the next GNR
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 08:46:02 PM: You may or may not know, but Spencer Sercombe accompanied Michael Schenker and Robin McAuley on their 1992 acoustic tour.

I never actually followed up with Shark Island.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 08:47:05 PM: Check out Paris Calling, major kick ass tune :metal
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 08:51:45 PM: I'll give you a response on facebook.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 08:52:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 08, 2020, 08:51:45 PM
I'll give you a response on facebook.

Lol I’m waiting for a Tim Crowley response :lol
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 08:54:30 PM: 2050! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 08:56:26 PM: Paris Calling definitely got played on a podcast.

There was a bit of buzz around Shark Island as a live band yeah. The big connection to GnR was that supposedly Axl used to go see them each week and take notes. Much of his on stage persona was stolen from Richard Black of Shark Island.
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Post by: TAC on July 08, 2020, 08:57:49 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 08:42:53 PM
I’m very much looking forward to that UFO thread.

Seriously though, I am so pumped for it. It is basically written. I will launch it when Obert finishes his Jethro Tull Discog Thread.

Still figuring out how to integrate the Michael Schenker Discography along with it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2020, 08:58:58 PM: I’m sure Richard Black is getting royalty checks from the Not in this Lifetime tour
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 08, 2020, 09:11:13 PM: IIRC, I gave JJ a Star One track in his roulette... yup, Master of Darkness. Check the rest of that shit out, you'd dig both albums I think - especially because of the themes.

Also, there are probably a few gems from Ayreon here and there you'd like - I mean, check the vocalists from Flight of the Migrator - Russell Allen, Bruce Dickinson, Ralf Scheepers, Andi Deris, Timo Kotipelto... most of which I know are voices from bands you do dig.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 09, 2020, 01:57:09 AM: I bought Rough Cutt Wants You but didn’t rate it. The Shortino album was better as Brent says but I wasn’t a fan.

I always tough of Keel as the polite cousin of WASP, similar style, raspy singer, but without the shock value. I like Final Frontier and love the self titled. TRTR is average. I’m not a super fan or anything but I enjoyed them.

Shark Island had that one excellent album then nothing.
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Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 07:09:37 AM: I have no idea who anyone is talking about for pretty much this whole page.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2020, 07:11:26 AM: :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on July 09, 2020, 07:25:13 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 07:09:37 AM
I have no idea who anyone is talking about for pretty much this whole page.

What if I said Winger's Seventeen should've been yuuuge.

I'll say a few better known names around here (while still obscure) for potential hits:

MSG: Anytime
Tyketto: Forever Young/Wings
Y&T : Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark
Frehley's Comet: It's Over Now (really a Tod Howarth solo ballad with Ace putting in an appearance)
Shadow King (Lou Gramm/Vivian Campbell): Russia/This Heart Of Stone
Forcefield (Tony Martin/COzy Powell) : I Lose Again
The Four Horsemen: Rockin Is Ma Business
Harem Scarem: Honestly
LA Guns: Over The Edge
Von Groove: I Saw The Light
Warrant: Stronger Now
Wild Horses: The River Song
XYZ: Souvenirs
21 Guns: These eyes
Zeno: Heat Of Emotion
220 Volt : Love Is All You Need

One rare sappy ballad I always thought had hit potential (if released a couple of years earlier) .....Sic Vikki: Damage Is Done. Love or hate the song but the guy had some pipes.
Maybe (in AOR/melodic rock) also New Moon by Diving For Pearls.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 09, 2020, 09:23:04 AM: I have a Sic Vikki album, Kiss Me In French I think it was called. Can't remember anything about it.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 09, 2020, 09:27:20 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 09, 2020, 09:23:04 AM
I have a Sic Vikki album, Kiss Me In French I think it was called. Can't remember anything about it.

I knew if anyone else would , it'd be you. For that style (relatively wimpy melodic rock) it was a quality production etc.......Steve Plunkett from Autograph producing Tim would;ve been all over it ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on July 09, 2020, 09:41:31 AM: Not sure I've got the album ripped, not showing up on Google Play. Will have to see if I can brave the attic to look for it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 09, 2020, 03:16:48 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 09, 2020, 09:41:31 AM
Not sure I've got the album ripped, not showing up on Google Play. Will have to see if I can brave the attic to look for it.

It’s on Spotify (in Canada at least)
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Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 04:14:45 PM: That Y&T song is great. Come in From the Rain I think is a better ballad from the same album.
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Post by: TAC on July 09, 2020, 04:33:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 07:09:37 AM
I have no idea who anyone is talking about for pretty much this whole page.

:lol

I have now joined the club.
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Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 05:18:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 09, 2020, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 09, 2020, 07:09:37 AM
I have no idea who anyone is talking about for pretty much this whole page.

:lol

I have now joined the club.

Welcome. I hope you enjoy your stay. If there is anything you need don't hesitate to try and find my number.
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Post by: TAC on July 10, 2020, 01:24:49 PM: AOTY contender right here!

(https://metalnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/cover-Mike-Lepond-s-Silent-Assassins-Whore-Of-Babylon-.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 10, 2020, 02:00:56 PM: Attack of the Busty Zombies!
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Post by: TAC on July 10, 2020, 02:01:49 PM: That should've been the actual title. :lol
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Post by: Evermind on July 10, 2020, 02:02:54 PM: SLEEP WITH THE DEVIL, THE DEVIL WILL TAKE YOU AWAY
OH WHORE OF BABYLOOOOON
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Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2020, 03:22:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2020, 01:24:49 PM
AOTY contender right here!

(https://metalnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/cover-Mike-Lepond-s-Silent-Assassins-Whore-Of-Babylon-.jpg)

Only had one listen, but very very good.

ides of March is a top song of the year.
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Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2020, 03:32:37 PM: (https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a4149606520_10.jpg)

Gonna pimp this here even though most of you lads won't dig it. Ripping thrash but the vocals probably won't suit most of you. A lot of Metallica influence mixed with some harsh influences but a lot of power metal influence too, but absolutely slays from start to finish. Just pure fucking heavy metal done right. AOTY contendor for me. Defiance of Fate song of the year so far I think.
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Post by: TAC on July 10, 2020, 03:36:04 PM: I will second this. I had their last album Saved on Spotify, but didn't know they had a new one until Kade mentioned it the other day. This album kicks major league ass.
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Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2020, 03:38:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2020, 03:36:04 PM
I will second this. I had their last album Saved on Spotify, but didn't know they had a new one until Kade mentioned it the other day. This album kicks major league ass.

I literally had never heard them before and a couple of weeks ago I was flicking through my youtube recommendations and the video for The Black Hand Reaches Out so clicked it just due to the band name and holy shit! What a groove this song has. Then I watched a lyric video for the epic as fuck closer Glorious End and I was sold.

They have a few albums, definitely have some work to do.
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Post by: TAC on July 10, 2020, 04:26:04 PM: So it's been a while since I posted a Classic Concert Program, but talking about Rough Cutt reminded me at how odd I thought their inclusion in the program was. But here it is. This was purchased at the Povidence Civic Center on September 11, 1985.

(https://i.imgur.com/AaCj0VC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MmUdkFL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QNCWOWK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6Hi863R.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YI9icwb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MYr5zZa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kGHBQMW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3H5Ob66.jpg)
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 10, 2020, 04:54:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2020, 01:24:49 PM
AOTY contender right here!

(https://metalnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/cover-Mike-Lepond-s-Silent-Assassins-Whore-Of-Babylon-.jpg)

I listened to one of the pre-release singles (can't remember which), and enjoyed it. I didn't care much for the first one, but with Sarah Teets on vox for one of the tracks, I'm looking forward to spinning this - which I'll do tomorrow morning.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 10, 2020, 05:20:05 PM: That's rather appropriate ......Attack Of The Busty Zombies featuring Sarah Teets.
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Post by: TAC on July 10, 2020, 05:36:14 PM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2020, 09:53:47 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 10, 2020, 04:54:42 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2020, 01:24:49 PM
AOTY contender right here!

(https://metalnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/cover-Mike-Lepond-s-Silent-Assassins-Whore-Of-Babylon-.jpg)

I listened to one of the pre-release singles (can't remember which), and enjoyed it. I didn't care much for the first one, but with Sarah Teets on vox for one of the tracks, I'm looking forward to spinning this - which I'll do tomorrow morning.

This is the 3rd album. The second one is brilliant.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 11, 2020, 02:08:21 AM: I tried that warbringer song wolfster mentioned for song of the year. It starts off with a cool Metallica vibe. But once the vocals started I tapped out within five seconds.

Tim....I think I read before that Rough Cutt was managed by the same people that managed Dio, so they were trying to give Rough Cutt some rub. I think that’s why they were on the same tour and Shortino was on Hear n Aid
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Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2020, 05:43:04 AM: That program is awesome Tim. Some classic, wonderful pics in there.
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Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2020, 05:44:10 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 11, 2020, 02:08:21 AM
I tried that warbringer song wolfster mentioned for song of the year. It starts off with a cool Metallica vibe. But once the vocals started I tapped out within five seconds.

Tim....I think I read before that Rough Cutt was managed by the same people that managed Dio, so they were trying to give Rough Cutt some rub. I think that’s why they were on the same tour and Shortino was on Hear n Aid

The black metal Agalloch type vocals in the verses are different to the rest of them. The vocals are pretty harsh but more thrash style vocals than the verses.
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Post by: Evermind on July 11, 2020, 05:55:48 AM: I really liked Defiance of Fate. I'll probably check the whole album based on that.
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Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2020, 05:56:48 AM: Quote from: Evermind on July 11, 2020, 05:55:48 AM
I really liked Defiance of Fate. I'll probably check the whole album based on that.

The rest is more thrash then that song but the whole albums smokes.
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Post by: TAC on July 11, 2020, 06:01:28 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 11, 2020, 02:08:21 AM
Tim....I think I read before that Rough Cutt was managed by the same people that managed Dio, so they were trying to give Rough Cutt some rub. I think that’s why they were on the same tour and Shortino was on Hear n Aid

Yeah, that was obvious. I wonder if that's how he landed the spot in Spinal Tap.

Quote from: wolfking on July 11, 2020, 05:43:04 AM
That program is awesome Tim. Some classic, wonderful pics in there.

Thank you. I also have the program from The Last In Line tour as well. I'll post that next week sometime.

Quote from: wolfking on July 11, 2020, 05:44:10 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 11, 2020, 02:08:21 AM
I tried that warbringer song wolfster mentioned for song of the year. It starts off with a cool Metallica vibe. But once the vocals started I tapped out within five seconds.

The black metal Agalloch type vocals in the verses are different to the rest of them. The vocals are pretty harsh but more thrash style vocals than the verses.

I found the vocals a bit easier on the ears on Weapons Of Tomorrow than their last album, Woe To The Vanquished.
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Post by: Evermind on July 11, 2020, 06:02:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 11, 2020, 05:56:48 AM
Quote from: Evermind on July 11, 2020, 05:55:48 AM
I really liked Defiance of Fate. I'll probably check the whole album based on that.

The rest is more thrash then that song but the whole albums smokes.

This just killed my excitement for the album a bit. :lol I'll still check it out I guess.
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Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2020, 06:12:25 AM: Quote from: Evermind on July 11, 2020, 06:02:52 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 11, 2020, 05:56:48 AM
Quote from: Evermind on July 11, 2020, 05:55:48 AM
I really liked Defiance of Fate. I'll probably check the whole album based on that.

The rest is more thrash then that song but the whole albums smokes.

This just killed my excitement for the album a bit. :lol I'll still check it out I guess.

There's a couple more epic numbers on there but just keep in mind you heard by far the best song first.
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Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2020, 06:13:16 AM: I'll work my way back through their catalog and share my thoughts.
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Post by: TAC on July 11, 2020, 06:53:56 AM: Expecting reports!
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 12, 2020, 01:51:39 AM: Chad would be proud, cranked up Hot Cherie by Hardline in the car yesterday afternoon! Great tune :metal
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Post by: wolfking on July 12, 2020, 05:22:23 AM: This new Firewind is pretty damn tasty.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 12, 2020, 05:42:19 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 12, 2020, 01:51:39 AM
Chad would be proud, cranked up Hot Cherie by Hardline in the car yesterday afternoon! Great tune :metal

:tup :tup

Hardline s/t is one of my favorite albums of all time. Neal Schon is so awesome on that album. Though, if you were in the car, shouldn't you have been cranking Rhythm from a Red Car?? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on July 12, 2020, 05:48:07 AM: .............or Life's A Bitch (a tribute to 2020)
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 12, 2020, 06:31:00 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 12, 2020, 05:48:07 AM
.............or Life's A Bitch (a tribute to 2020)

Ain't that the truth!
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Post by: gazinwales on July 13, 2020, 01:50:28 AM: So the guy that some has described a 'wasting his talent' 'full of himself' and a few more is finally finishing his solo album ;D
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2020, 05:27:19 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 13, 2020, 01:50:28 AM
So the guy that some has described a 'wasting his talent' 'full of himself' and a few more is finally finishing his solo album ;D

Malmsteen has already released quite a few albums mate.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 13, 2020, 05:38:48 AM: I have no idea what that is about but I will take a stab................John Sykes? His album has been almost finished for as long as I can remember.
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2020, 06:00:57 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 13, 2020, 05:38:48 AM
I have no idea what that is about but I will take a stab................John Sykes? His album has been almost finished for as long as I can remember.

That I'd love to hear.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 13, 2020, 12:14:28 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 13, 2020, 01:50:28 AM
So the guy that some has described a 'wasting his talent' 'full of himself' and a few more is finally finishing his solo album ;D

Sums up lots of people.

EVH.

But guessing John Sykes?
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Post by: gazinwales on July 13, 2020, 02:16:22 PM: You blokes have very short memories, I was only 'defending' him a week or so ago :biggrin:
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Post by: Lowdz on July 13, 2020, 03:22:02 PM: I can’t remember what I had for lunch 😀
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2020, 03:25:29 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 13, 2020, 02:16:22 PM
You blokes have very short memories, I was only 'defending' him a week or so ago :biggrin:

Ah, Tony Martin of course lol. I'll look forward to that with great interest. I wonder who is on the axe?
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Post by: TAC on July 13, 2020, 04:24:17 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 13, 2020, 02:16:22 PM
You blokes have very short memories, I was only 'defending' him a week or so ago :biggrin:

These guys only think guitarists.
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2020, 04:37:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2020, 04:24:17 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on July 13, 2020, 02:16:22 PM
You blokes have very short memories, I was only 'defending' him a week or so ago :biggrin:

These guys only think guitarists.

:metal
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Post by: bl5150 on July 13, 2020, 05:49:43 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 13, 2020, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on July 13, 2020, 02:16:22 PM
You blokes have very short memories, I was only 'defending' him a week or so ago :biggrin:

Ah, Tony Martin of course lol. I'll look forward to that with great interest. I wonder who is on the axe?

John Sykes and EVH ? :lol
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2020, 05:51:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 13, 2020, 05:49:43 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 13, 2020, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on July 13, 2020, 02:16:22 PM
You blokes have very short memories, I was only 'defending' him a week or so ago :biggrin:

Ah, Tony Martin of course lol. I'll look forward to that with great interest. I wonder who is on the axe?

John Sykes and EVH ? :lol

Sounds like a ripper of album to be honest. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2020, 05:53:30 PM: Not to bring up the whole Tony martin thing again but with his comments about he has to write the melodies and you get the whole package and whatnot, I found it funny that on the 2 songs he sings on Magnus' album, only 1 is credited to him and the other is solely credited to Karlsson. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2020, 07:48:07 PM: I really like the new Firewind. Besides the fact it's a Gus G solo album with the Firewind name on it, it's very cool. He's really listened to a lot of Malmsteen when writing this though.
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Post by: ozzy554 on July 13, 2020, 07:54:53 PM: Can't wait for the new Martin. He may have his difficulties live (that's why he didn't get the Candlemass gig) but in studio he can still put in some great work.
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Post by: wolfking on July 15, 2020, 05:12:28 AM: Halfway through the new Dynazty. This is very nice, this is clicking quite nicely. However, Warbringers Defiance of Fate may have a competitor for SOTY. Paradise of the Architects, holy shit what a tune. It's an exact rip of Starlight but holy shit this song fucking slays.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 15, 2020, 12:56:47 PM: Those vocals have no place in this thread 😀
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Post by: wolfking on July 15, 2020, 04:33:48 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 15, 2020, 12:56:47 PM
Those vocals have no place in this thread 😀

I wasn't sure which thread to put it in honestly. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on July 16, 2020, 01:46:41 AM: I was enjoying it until the vocals started and then switched it off. I wasn’t expecting it either. Sometimes I play a track and am enjoying it but I can tell the growlies are coming. This one got me by surprise, in a bad way unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on July 16, 2020, 03:34:34 AM: Wait there were growls on the new Dynazty? I was so bored with the album that apparently I don't even remember that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:10:33 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 16, 2020, 01:46:41 AM
I was enjoying it until the vocals started and then switched it off. I wasn’t expecting it either. Sometimes I play a track and am enjoying it but I can tell the growlies are coming. This one got me by surprise, in a bad way unfortunately.

Wut?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:11:30 AM: I thought you meant the more poppy sounding vocals Paul. One song has a verse and a bit of growls but that's it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 16, 2020, 07:58:41 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:11:30 AM
I thought you meant the more poppy sounding vocals Paul. One song has a verse and a bit of growls but that's it.

I was referring to the Warbringer.
The Dynazty is very good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 16, 2020, 08:11:14 AM: Buy this man a beer ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/FFkgyHGN/bs-matter.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 16, 2020, 10:25:18 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 16, 2020, 07:58:41 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:11:30 AM
I thought you meant the more poppy sounding vocals Paul. One song has a verse and a bit of growls but that's it.

I was referring to the Warbringer.
The Dynazty is very good.

You changed lanes without signalling.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on July 16, 2020, 12:04:25 PM: Quote from: Evermind on July 16, 2020, 03:34:34 AM
Wait there were growls on the new Dynazty? I was so bored with the album that apparently I don't even remember that.

One song has the screamer, Henrik, from Amaranthe. But in general, no Dynazty doesn't use growls or screams and Nils is an amazing vocalist. I enjoy the new album, but it's just too similar to the previous for it to really stand out. It's definitely good melodic metal IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 04:39:51 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 16, 2020, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 16, 2020, 07:58:41 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:11:30 AM
I thought you meant the more poppy sounding vocals Paul. One song has a verse and a bit of growls but that's it.

I was referring to the Warbringer.
The Dynazty is very good.

You changed lanes without signalling.

No kidding hey. I can usually tell when people are going to cut me off but I was blindsided there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 04:40:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 16, 2020, 08:11:14 AM
Buy this man a beer ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/FFkgyHGN/bs-matter.jpg)

This guy preaches the truth.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 04:43:39 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on July 16, 2020, 12:04:25 PM
Quote from: Evermind on July 16, 2020, 03:34:34 AM
Wait there were growls on the new Dynazty? I was so bored with the album that apparently I don't even remember that.

One song has the screamer, Henrik, from Amaranthe. But in general, no Dynazty doesn't use growls or screams and Nils is an amazing vocalist. I enjoy the new album, but it's just too similar to the previous for it to really stand out. It's definitely good melodic metal IMO.

It's only cause in my haul last week I just decided to pick it up while I was doing an order and it was on stock. I liked Renatus but I didn't follow the next 2 at all really. I may have sampled them but can't recall. So for me, this new one is kind of fresh, if that makes sense.

You are right though with them repeating themselves. I mean listen to Paradise of the Architects and then listen to Starlight from Renatus, even Blackie Lawless is laughing at their own rip off here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 05:37:47 PM: I will add that with the Dynazty, the guitar solos are very creative and well constructed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2020, 05:48:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 16, 2020, 08:11:14 AM
Buy this man a beer ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/FFkgyHGN/bs-matter.jpg)

You found Bill Ward!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 07:18:48 PM: Lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 10:01:10 AM: I'm liking this:

(https://roppongirocks.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/the-lightbringer-of-sweden.png?w=640)

https://open.spotify.com/album/2HCRmSTwlR3YLnNuVP4bYu?si=9RGZ4IBOR7W4pFVIQ8CYJQ

Accept/Helloween style metal with Herbie Langhans on vocals.

and this..

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1591051993_10.jpg)

https://open.spotify.com/album/3LFIMHiQbLWV24Ux51PDlJ?si=waFQdiR7RQWt4yQeQQSjqQ

Smoking instrumental metal :metal

EDIT: This album has blown me away. Amazingly heavy and melodic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on July 17, 2020, 01:25:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 17, 2020, 10:01:10 AM
I'm liking this:

(https://roppongirocks.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/the-lightbringer-of-sweden.png?w=640)

https://open.spotify.com/album/2HCRmSTwlR3YLnNuVP4bYu?si=9RGZ4IBOR7W4pFVIQ8CYJQ

Accept/Helloween style metal with Herbie Langhans on vocals.

I'll check this out tomorrow, curious about Herbie on this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 17, 2020, 01:53:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 16, 2020, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 16, 2020, 07:58:41 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:11:30 AM
I thought you meant the more poppy sounding vocals Paul. One song has a verse and a bit of growls but that's it.

I was referring to the Warbringer.
The Dynazty is very good.

You changed lanes without signalling.

No kidding hey. I can usually tell when people are going to cut me off but I was blindsided there.

The comment I responded to mentioned Dynazty and Warbringer. I stated the singer shouldn’t belong in this thread. Bearing in mind the Dynazty singer is one of the best in the hard rock/metal field and the other sounded like JLB during the shrimp incident, I thought it would have been clear enough 😀😀😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2020, 02:50:14 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 17, 2020, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 16, 2020, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 16, 2020, 07:58:41 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 16, 2020, 06:11:30 AM
I thought you meant the more poppy sounding vocals Paul. One song has a verse and a bit of growls but that's it.

I was referring to the Warbringer.
The Dynazty is very good.

You changed lanes without signalling.

No kidding hey. I can usually tell when people are going to cut me off but I was blindsided there.

The comment I responded to mentioned Dynazty and Warbringer. I stated the singer shouldn’t belong in this thread. Bearing in mind the Dynazty singer is one of the best in the hard rock/metal field and the other sounded like JLB during the shrimp incident, I thought it would have been clear enough 😀😀😀

It's all good mate. Your comment didn't have a quote attached and came directly after my Dynazty post, but really I should have put two and two together.

I'm loving this Dynazty though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2020, 02:51:14 PM: 2 more albums to add to the list it seems up there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 02:51:34 PM: Make it a third!

Damn, it's been a good day!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQu3x2CUx9sx0f87zsTYUnTAnYjlAhkNittAA&usqp=CAU)

https://open.spotify.com/album/3xnK1ePe7QyjBuybdrBsNj?si=BeMJoGikToigo25RXuijLQ

Memories Of Never Ending, with it's epic second half, is in the conversation for SOTY.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2020, 02:59:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 17, 2020, 02:51:34 PM
Make it a third!

Damn, it's been a good day!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQu3x2CUx9sx0f87zsTYUnTAnYjlAhkNittAA&usqp=CAU)

https://open.spotify.com/album/3xnK1ePe7QyjBuybdrBsNj?si=BeMJoGikToigo25RXuijLQ

Memories Of Never Ending, with it's epic second half, is in the conversation for SOTY.

I'll stick with Van Halen 1984 or Kiss Animalize
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2020, 03:01:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 17, 2020, 02:51:34 PM
Make it a third!

Damn, it's been a good day!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQu3x2CUx9sx0f87zsTYUnTAnYjlAhkNittAA&usqp=CAU)

https://open.spotify.com/album/3xnK1ePe7QyjBuybdrBsNj?si=BeMJoGikToigo25RXuijLQ

Memories Of Never Ending, with it's epic second half, is in the conversation for SOTY.

Why are you doing this to me?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 03:02:58 PM: That track gives me goosebumps!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 17, 2020, 04:29:44 PM: There’s no point me bothering is there?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 04:34:15 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 17, 2020, 04:29:44 PM
There’s no point me bothering is there?

All clean vocals. It's a good album. Check out Memories Of Never Ending.

Check out the instrumental album I posted. It rips.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 17, 2020, 05:53:32 PM: Hey e each been added to my listening for my 2 hr road trip tomorrow. Will report back by Sunday.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2020, 06:50:19 PM: Awesome. Look forward to it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 18, 2020, 02:29:04 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 17, 2020, 04:34:15 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 17, 2020, 04:29:44 PM
There’s no point me bothering is there?

All clean vocals. It's a good album. Check out Memories Of Never Ending.

Check out the instrumental album I posted. It rips.

Will give both a try then. Looked growlie from the cover 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 18, 2020, 02:42:45 AM: This is very good. The track you recommended is lovely. Opening track has some harsh vocals but not enough to kill it. Going to give this a full listen and as you’ve redeemed yourself somewhat, I’ll check out the other two albums you linked 😀😀😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on July 18, 2020, 03:38:32 AM: Just checked out Memories of Never Ending Pains, very good song. I should give this album a go.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2020, 05:04:07 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 17, 2020, 03:01:52 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 17, 2020, 02:51:34 PM
Make it a third!

Damn, it's been a good day!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQu3x2CUx9sx0f87zsTYUnTAnYjlAhkNittAA&usqp=CAU)

https://open.spotify.com/album/3xnK1ePe7QyjBuybdrBsNj?si=BeMJoGikToigo25RXuijLQ

Memories Of Never Ending, with it's epic second half, is in the conversation for SOTY.

Why are you doing this to me?

I had to check to see if the singer was Rick Altzi.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2020, 05:32:38 AM: ^ No shit, right! That was gonna be my comment, that he has the Rick Altzi 'grittiness' to his voice that should've been a plus for me, but it just didn't click for some reason. Memories of Never Ending is indeed god-tier, but the rest of the album is gonna take a couple more listens before deciding if it's gonna make the cut.

As for Day Zero, something there was also missing. Good tunes, nothing wrong with them, but it just seemed (to me) to be missing some charm... character... personality.... It's almost like it was composed by an AI bot. There was no soul to the music. Dunno how else to explain it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2020, 06:02:28 AM: I'm halfway through it. I quite like it. The solo section inparticular are very emotive.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2020, 06:12:11 AM: Hot damn, the one-two punch of The Rebirth and The Last Sigh is just brilliant.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 19, 2020, 06:13:08 AM: I didn't think of Rick Altzi, but I was going to mention the singer from Glass Mind. But gritter...and a better singer.

Quote from: jingle.boy on July 19, 2020, 05:32:38 AM

As for Day Zero, something there was also missing. Good tunes, nothing wrong with them, but it just seemed (to me) to be missing some charm... character... personality.... It's almost like it was composed by an AI bot. There was no soul to the music. Dunno how else to explain it.

I find it very hard to get into most instrumental albums. I usually drop the needle, and I:m good. But this one just kept my attention.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2020, 06:25:17 AM: Jeez, the last two minutes of Memories of Never Ending Pains, wow, that's something.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 19, 2020, 06:28:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 19, 2020, 06:25:17 AM
Jeez, the last two minutes of Memories of Never Ending Pains, wow, that's something.

Innit?

Just purchased the Carthagods album. It's only $9.98 on Amazon. Dammit, no autorip!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 19, 2020, 12:02:54 PM: Whilst delving through those TAC recommendations, I came across a band I’d never heard before that I enjoyed listening to. Ghost Ship Octavius - prog metal stuff.

Not got to far with the Paul Wardingham yet but the Lightbri ger was excellent too. You’re on a roll. Tim.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 03:00:45 PM: Well, as I suspected, George Lynch has ruined Wicked Sensation with his re-imagined version. He was a musical hero of mine a long time ago but he really hasn’t done anything I’ve loved since Sacred Groove.

https://youtu.be/CYrzZpsKz-A
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:04:59 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 03:00:45 PM
Well, as I suspected, George Lynch has ruined Wicked Sensation with his re-imagined version. He was a musical hero of mine a long time ago but he really hasn’t done anything I’ve loved since Sacred Groove.

https://youtu.be/CYrzZpsKz-A

Stick with Breaking the Chains-Back for the Attack
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:05:50 PM: And of course Beast from the East :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:08:14 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 03:00:45 PM
Well, as I suspected, George Lynch has ruined Wicked Sensation with his re-imagined version. He was a musical hero of mine a long time ago but he really hasn’t done anything I’ve loved since Sacred Groove.

https://youtu.be/CYrzZpsKz-A

LOL, this is shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:08:38 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 03:00:45 PM
Well, as I suspected, George Lynch has ruined Wicked Sensation with his re-imagined version. He was a musical hero of mine a long time ago but he really hasn’t done anything I’ve loved since Sacred Groove.

https://youtu.be/CYrzZpsKz-A

LOL, this is shit.

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:16:58 PM: Seriously......like WTF is this supposed to be? Just......why?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:21:58 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:16:58 PM
Seriously......like WTF is this supposed to be? Just......why?

Just play some classic Dokken and forget you heard this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:22:49 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:16:58 PM
Seriously......like WTF is this supposed to be? Just......why?

Just play some classic Dokken and forget you heard this.

Yes sir!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:25:09 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:16:58 PM
Seriously......like WTF is this supposed to be? Just......why?

Just play some classic Dokken and forget you heard this.

Yes sir!

:lol wolfster
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:27:40 PM: While a lot of us are online here at the moment (a rare time I have a couple of hours on my home PC), I just wanted you guys to spare thoughts for Brent in his current situation. I haven't spoken or PM'ed him directly, but the state he lives in (Victoria) is once again getting crippled by Coronavirus. Up here in Brisbane we are somewhat back to normal for now but the cases keep rising down there and the state is almost on the brink of complete collapse it seems. It's crazy how cases have ramped up down there over the last week or more. Anywhere between 300-500 getting recorded each day. It's going to be a tough road for everyone living down there at the moment, and it's not looking great at the moment.

When I see the news I pesoanlly think about you each day mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 03:31:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 03:00:45 PM
Well, as I suspected, George Lynch has ruined Wicked Sensation with his re-imagined version. He was a musical hero of mine a long time ago but he really hasn’t done anything I’ve loved since Sacred Groove.

https://youtu.be/CYrzZpsKz-A

LOL, this is shit.

It was always going to be. I feared the worst when I heard this was ‘re-imagined’. Utter shite.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 03:33:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:27:40 PM
While a lot of us are online here at the moment (a rare time I have a couple of hours on my home PC), I just wanted you guys to spare thoughts for Brent in his current situation. I haven't spoken or PM'ed him directly, but the state he lives in (Victoria) is once again getting crippled by Coronavirus. Up here in Brisbane we are somewhat back to normal for now but the cases keep rising down there and the state is almost on the brink of complete collapse it seems. It's crazy how cases have ramped up down there over the last week or more. Anywhere between 300-500 getting recorded each day. It's going to be a tough road for everyone living down there at the moment, and it's not looking great at the moment.

When I see the news I pesoanlly think about you each day mate.

Yeah, thinks of you and the family Brent. I work in the NHS and I’ve had to work through the lockdown here, but at least I still have a job. Working for yourself must be a nightmare at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:34:00 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 03:31:26 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 03:00:45 PM
Well, as I suspected, George Lynch has ruined Wicked Sensation with his re-imagined version. He was a musical hero of mine a long time ago but he really hasn’t done anything I’ve loved since Sacred Groove.

https://youtu.be/CYrzZpsKz-A

LOL, this is shit.

It was always going to be. I feared the worst when I heard this was ‘re-imagined’. Utter shite.

I actually didn't half mind the Revolution thing he did cause it was quite heavy and sludgey, but this just sucks.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:35:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:27:40 PM
While a lot of us are online here at the moment (a rare time I have a couple of hours on my home PC), I just wanted you guys to spare thoughts for Brent in his current situation. I haven't spoken or PM'ed him directly, but the state he lives in (Victoria) is once again getting crippled by Coronavirus. Up here in Brisbane we are somewhat back to normal for now but the cases keep rising down there and the state is almost on the brink of complete collapse it seems. It's crazy how cases have ramped up down there over the last week or more. Anywhere between 300-500 getting recorded each day. It's going to be a tough road for everyone living down there at the moment, and it's not looking great at the moment.

When I see the news I pesoanlly think about you each day mate.

This is brutal. I can't even watch the news anymore. I'm always hoping for the best of my fellow The Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilla Thread brothers!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 03:36:48 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:27:40 PM
While a lot of us are online here at the moment (a rare time I have a couple of hours on my home PC), I just wanted you guys to spare thoughts for Brent in his current situation. I haven't spoken or PM'ed him directly, but the state he lives in (Victoria) is once again getting crippled by Coronavirus. Up here in Brisbane we are somewhat back to normal for now but the cases keep rising down there and the state is almost on the brink of complete collapse it seems. It's crazy how cases have ramped up down there over the last week or more. Anywhere between 300-500 getting recorded each day. It's going to be a tough road for everyone living down there at the moment, and it's not looking great at the moment.

When I see the news I pesoanlly think about you each day mate.

Wow... that's shit. Hope all is safe for the B&B tandem (and Mrs 5150 of course). For a matter of perspective though Kade, some states in the US are getting hit with 10-15 THOUSAND cases a day. Here in southern Ontario (population of about 8-9 million), we seem to be hovering around 100-200 a day. Hopefully the containment measures enacted at the start of this wave were enacted quickly and strongly enough that the curve won't spike too much.

@ jj... did I hear that Manitoba is seeing a bit of a rise in cases?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 03:41:10 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:27:40 PM
While a lot of us are online here at the moment (a rare time I have a couple of hours on my home PC), I just wanted you guys to spare thoughts for Brent in his current situation. I haven't spoken or PM'ed him directly, but the state he lives in (Victoria) is once again getting crippled by Coronavirus. Up here in Brisbane we are somewhat back to normal for now but the cases keep rising down there and the state is almost on the brink of complete collapse it seems. It's crazy how cases have ramped up down there over the last week or more. Anywhere between 300-500 getting recorded each day. It's going to be a tough road for everyone living down there at the moment, and it's not looking great at the moment.

When I see the news I pesoanlly think about you each day mate.

Amen, brother!

And the poor guy just survived the fires..
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:46:26 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:27:40 PM
While a lot of us are online here at the moment (a rare time I have a couple of hours on my home PC), I just wanted you guys to spare thoughts for Brent in his current situation. I haven't spoken or PM'ed him directly, but the state he lives in (Victoria) is once again getting crippled by Coronavirus. Up here in Brisbane we are somewhat back to normal for now but the cases keep rising down there and the state is almost on the brink of complete collapse it seems. It's crazy how cases have ramped up down there over the last week or more. Anywhere between 300-500 getting recorded each day. It's going to be a tough road for everyone living down there at the moment, and it's not looking great at the moment.

When I see the news I pesoanlly think about you each day mate.

Wow... that's shit. Hope all is safe for the B&B tandem (and Mrs 5150 of course). For a matter of perspective though Kade, some states in the US are getting hit with 10-15 THOUSAND cases a day. Here in southern Ontario (population of about 8-9 million), we seem to be hovering around 100-200 a day. Hopefully the containment measures enacted at the start of this wave were enacted quickly and strongly enough that the curve won't spike too much.

@ jj... did I hear that Manitoba is seeing a bit of a rise in cases?

Manitoba went 12 days without anything a week ago but it is getting high again the last week. Rumor has it that masks will become mandatory in the fall so I decided to spend the cash and get offical Winnipeg Blue Bombers face masks in preparation for it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:58:35 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:27:40 PM
While a lot of us are online here at the moment (a rare time I have a couple of hours on my home PC), I just wanted you guys to spare thoughts for Brent in his current situation. I haven't spoken or PM'ed him directly, but the state he lives in (Victoria) is once again getting crippled by Coronavirus. Up here in Brisbane we are somewhat back to normal for now but the cases keep rising down there and the state is almost on the brink of complete collapse it seems. It's crazy how cases have ramped up down there over the last week or more. Anywhere between 300-500 getting recorded each day. It's going to be a tough road for everyone living down there at the moment, and it's not looking great at the moment.

When I see the news I pesoanlly think about you each day mate.

Wow... that's shit. Hope all is safe for the B&B tandem (and Mrs 5150 of course). For a matter of perspective though Kade, some states in the US are getting hit with 10-15 THOUSAND cases a day. Here in southern Ontario (population of about 8-9 million), we seem to be hovering around 100-200 a day. Hopefully the containment measures enacted at the start of this wave were enacted quickly and strongly enough that the curve won't spike too much.

@ jj... did I hear that Manitoba is seeing a bit of a rise in cases?

Yeah, I've seen the amount of cases in the US too, I just know Brent is personally affected so just wanted to give a shout out.

I think Victoria had 494 cases just a few days ago. Victoria has a population of about 6.5 mil I believe.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 04:02:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 24, 2020, 03:41:10 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:27:40 PM
While a lot of us are online here at the moment (a rare time I have a couple of hours on my home PC), I just wanted you guys to spare thoughts for Brent in his current situation. I haven't spoken or PM'ed him directly, but the state he lives in (Victoria) is once again getting crippled by Coronavirus. Up here in Brisbane we are somewhat back to normal for now but the cases keep rising down there and the state is almost on the brink of complete collapse it seems. It's crazy how cases have ramped up down there over the last week or more. Anywhere between 300-500 getting recorded each day. It's going to be a tough road for everyone living down there at the moment, and it's not looking great at the moment.

When I see the news I pesoanlly think about you each day mate.

Amen, brother!

And the poor guy just survived the fires..

The thing with that is, the next fire season isn't far away at all. :-\
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 04:13:52 PM: Jeez, everything in Oz wants to kill you, even the weather. I’ll send you some of this north of England rain. We have plenty.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 04:43:47 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 04:13:52 PM
Jeez, everything in Oz wants to kill you, even the weather. I’ll send you some of this north of England rain. We have plenty.

I love the cloudy rainy weather. People think I'm strange when I say that. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 05:21:44 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 04:13:52 PM
Jeez, everything in Oz wants to kill you, even the weather. I’ll send you some of this north of England rain. We have plenty.

I love the cloudy rainy weather. People think I'm strange when I say that. :lol

Isn't that a Garbage song from the 90s?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 05:31:27 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 04:13:52 PM
Jeez, everything in Oz wants to kill you, even the weather. I’ll send you some of this north of England rain. We have plenty.

I love the cloudy rainy weather. People think I'm strange when I say that. :lol

Isn't that a Garbage song from the 90s?

I'm surprised you know who Garbage are J! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 05:35:47 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 04:13:52 PM
Jeez, everything in Oz wants to kill you, even the weather. I’ll send you some of this north of England rain. We have plenty.

I love the cloudy rainy weather. People think I'm strange when I say that. :lol

Isn't that a Garbage song from the 90s?

I'm surprised you know who Garbage are J! :lol

This quote was based on the extreme vague memory of 16 year old Jason listening to 92 Citi fm in Winnipeg in 1995.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 05:35:58 PM: I think he was saying the song was garbage. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 05:52:36 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on July 24, 2020, 04:13:52 PM
Jeez, everything in Oz wants to kill you, even the weather. I’ll send you some of this north of England rain. We have plenty.

I love the cloudy rainy weather. People think I'm strange when I say that. :lol

Isn't that a Garbage song from the 90s?

I'm surprised you know who Garbage are J! :lol

I also remember Toadies Possum Kingdom and Sponge Wax Ecstatic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:03:30 PM: And this message is from 16 year old Jason in 1995 to Wolfking..........."wolf check out this song ....I Mother Earth- Levitate"............it kicks ass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:28:07 PM: 1995 Jason will also throw in I Mother Earth- Rain Will Fall, Not Quite Sonic, So Gently We Go........Our Lady Peace- Birdman, Julia........Moist- Machine Punch Through.........Tea Party- A Certain Slant of Light.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 06:33:13 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:28:07 PM
1995 Jason will also throw in I Mother Earth- Rain Will Fall, Not Quite Sonic, So Gently We Go........Our Lady Peace- Birdman, Julia........Moist- Machine Punch Through.........Tea Party- A Certain Slant of Light.

I'll have to check these but that Tea Party song is one of my faves. It's a cracker.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 06:35:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:03:30 PM
And this message is from 16 year old Jason in 1995 to Wolfking..........."wolf check out this song ....I Mother Earth- Levitate"............it kicks ass.

Damn kid, I didn’t know you were that much younger than me!

I Mother Earth are serviceable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 24, 2020, 06:38:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 24, 2020, 05:35:58 PM
I think he was saying the song was garbage. :lol

That garbage song from the 90's is pretty much spot on across the board :lol

Thanks for the thoughts guys........and Kade for your post. There's really two different worlds out there at the moment. The USA in particular is plowing along (for the most part) with life while COVID goes ballistic whereas we shut the whole place down whenever things get into the hundreds of cases per day. And parts of the US stock market are at all time highs .........I used to play that game for a living but the US Fed has destroyed whatever "market" existed.

My business is struggling but I have managed to retain a decent portion of my students online. It's been a huge amount of work to adjust , then go back to normal (literally for 3 days) and then revert back again etc... When the government support gets dialled back by around 70% in October we're going to see the shit hit the fan and I have a feeling we could be in lockdown well beyond August in our area......possibly til Christmas.

For most of the time since March we have only been able to go out for 4 reasons (now with mask only):

- food/essentials
- local exercise
- work (if not possible to work from home)
- caring for someone else.

My Dad is recently home from hospital and my sister is basically bedridden awaiting spinal surgery so I am doing plenty of "caring."

For someone like me who isn't the most social (I joke that I have been in lockdown for 15 years) the social aspect isn't a big deal but I know Ben and my missus are going stir crazy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:40:35 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 06:35:42 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:03:30 PM
And this message is from 16 year old Jason in 1995 to Wolfking..........."wolf check out this song ....I Mother Earth- Levitate"............it kicks ass.

Damn kid, I didn’t know you were that much younger than me!

I Mother Earth are serviceable.

Egos came into play with that band...Dig and then Scenery and Fish should have made I Mother Earth mega stars........being big stars in Canada went to their heads and when they had a chance to make it in the States, they imploded.

Wolf............since I posted about I Mother Earth- Levitate, I've played that song a half dozen times.... I stand behind 1995 Jason.......it kicks major ass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 06:42:17 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 06:35:42 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:03:30 PM
And this message is from 16 year old Jason in 1995 to Wolfking..........."wolf check out this song ....I Mother Earth- Levitate"............it kicks ass.

Damn kid, I didn’t know you were that much younger than me!

I Mother Earth are serviceable.

I saw I Mother Earth live when Jason was 15. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 06:48:32 PM: @ Wolfking...your PM Inbox is full!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 06:59:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:40:35 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 06:35:42 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:03:30 PM
And this message is from 16 year old Jason in 1995 to Wolfking..........."wolf check out this song ....I Mother Earth- Levitate"............it kicks ass.

Damn kid, I didn’t know you were that much younger than me!

I Mother Earth are serviceable.

Egos came into play with that band...Dig and then Scenery and Fish should have made I Mother Earth mega stars........being big stars in Canada went to their heads and when they had a chance to make it in the States, they imploded.

Wolf............since I posted about I Mother Earth- Levitate, I've played that song a half dozen times.... I stand behind 1995 Jason.......it kicks major ass.

LOL, I just played it, pretty cool. I definitely would have been into that when I was a teen. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 07:02:02 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 24, 2020, 06:38:17 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 24, 2020, 05:35:58 PM
I think he was saying the song was garbage. :lol

That garbage song from the 90's is pretty much spot on across the board :lol

Thanks for the thoughts guys........and Kade for your post. There's really two different worlds out there at the moment. The USA in particular is plowing along (for the most part) with life while COVID goes ballistic whereas we shut the whole place down whenever things get into the hundreds of cases per day. And parts of the US stock market are at all time highs .........I used to play that game for a living but the US Fed has destroyed whatever "market" existed.

My business is struggling but I have managed to retain a decent portion of my students online. It's been a huge amount of work to adjust , then go back to normal (literally for 3 days) and then revert back again etc... When the government support gets dialled back by around 70% in October we're going to see the shit hit the fan and I have a feeling we could be in lockdown well beyond August in our area......possibly til Christmas.

For most of the time since March we have only been able to go out for 4 reasons (now with mask only):

- food/essentials
- local exercise
- work (if not possible to work from home)
- caring for someone else.

My Dad is recently home from hospital and my sister is basically bedridden awaiting spinal surgery so I am doing plenty of "caring."

For someone like me who isn't the most social (I joke that I have been in lockdown for 15 years) the social aspect isn't a big deal but I know Ben and my missus are going stir crazy.

Good to hear you still have somewhat of a client base. Kids still need to learn and people still need things to do I guess. Yeah, the whole jobkeeper thing I haven't really had to follow luckily, but I thought it was getting extended until XMas? I know the amount will be lower than what it was though. The way it's going though I'm sure public pressure will count for something. The mandatory mask thing spun me about too, shit is getting real.

It's definitely interesting the difference in actions between us and the US. We've done well up until now down there, but as we know, it could and should have been avoided. It does look like lockdown down there will carry over for a few months more.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 24, 2020, 07:04:38 PM: Jobkeeper is going until Xmas yeah (reduced).................but they are applying the same turnover test again which means that if you have bounced back to the point where your turnover is better than 70% of this time last year (50% for bigger businesses) then you're off and that is expected to kick 70% of business off which means layoffs big time. And that will effect all businesses.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 07:10:35 PM: I still say that Wolf and Brent need to make a Cacophony version 2 album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 07:15:33 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 07:10:35 PM
I still say that Wolf and Brent need to make a Cacophony version 2 album.

Now there's a Pledge Me campaign that I'd contribute to.
Crikeyphony :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 07:27:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 24, 2020, 07:15:33 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 07:10:35 PM
I still say that Wolf and Brent need to make a Cacophony version 2 album.

Now there's a Pledge Me campaign that I'd contribute to.
Crikeyphony :metal

Take my DTF donation money and move it over! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 25, 2020, 04:27:11 AM: CacoPHONY :lol

I am guessing Chad is already all over this but I just saw the new video single from Nightmare sans Magali and followed up on what she's doing. Seems there is now a new band called The Prize featuring her and Christophe Godin who did guitars on the Epysode : Obsessions album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2020, 05:21:56 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 25, 2020, 04:27:11 AM
CacoPHONY :lol

I am guessing Chad is already all over this but I just saw the new video single from Nightmare sans Magali and followed up on what she's doing. Seems there is now a new band called The Prize featuring her and Christophe Godin who did guitars on the Epysode : Obsessions album.

No, I hadn't heard about that! I did listen to the new Nightmare single yesterday. 'twas ok... nothing grabbed my attention too much, but I was multi-tasking, so I need to give it a proper listen. Now, the new Vanishing Point single that dropped... I'm REALLY looking forward to this album now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2020, 05:47:09 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 24, 2020, 07:04:38 PM
Jobkeeper is going until Xmas yeah (reduced).................but they are applying the same turnover test again which means that if you have bounced back to the point where your turnover is better than 70% of this time last year (50% for bigger businesses) then you're off and that is expected to kick 70% of business off which means layoffs big time. And that will effect all businesses.

If that counts benefits then people receiving jobkeeper and getting more on benefits then what they were when working then they may be in trouble.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2020, 05:48:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 25, 2020, 04:27:11 AM
CacoPHONY :lol

I am guessing Chad is already all over this but I just saw the new video single from Nightmare sans Magali and followed up on what she's doing. Seems there is now a new band called The Prize featuring her and Christophe Godin who did guitars on the Epysode : Obsessions album.

I can do your guitar parts if you want Brent. :biggrin:

I saw that Nightmare on YouTube but didn't watch it. I'll go back and check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 04:02:09 AM: Adding another songs to the top 10 song of the year argument;

The Beast Inside Me by The Lightbringer of Sweden. What a tune. It's so simple but just fucking amazing. I'm only halfway through this album too, it's a ripper.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 04:19:52 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 17, 2020, 10:01:10 AM
I'm liking this:

(https://roppongirocks.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/the-lightbringer-of-sweden.png?w=640)

This is fucking excellent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 26, 2020, 04:56:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 04:19:52 AM
Quote from: TAC on July 17, 2020, 10:01:10 AM
I'm liking this:

(https://roppongirocks.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/the-lightbringer-of-sweden.png?w=640)

This is fucking excellent.

It's funny, Herbie is so hit and miss for me - Firewind, Beyond the Bridge, Voodoo Circle - HIT!! Symphonity, Sinbreed, Seventh Ave - MISS!!

This one was a hit. And truthfully, I'm stunned that it was also a hit for Tim. Seems way to 'power-metal' for his liking. And no growls!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 05:03:28 AM: Funny, I thought it sounds exactly like something Tim would definitely be into. Doesn't need growls if it's fucking excellent metal with great, balls out singing. He sounds like Biff a lot on this album.

There's a few songs here that would make the argument of making a top 10 SOTY list.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 05:04:24 AM: Seems like the guitarist is an unknown too. Go on lad! He's ripping it up on this, tasteful guitar playing.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 26, 2020, 05:38:37 AM: Agreed. This is a belter.
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Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 05:52:26 AM: The one two punch of Heaven Has Fallen and Shadows of the Night to finish the album is fucking mint.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 26, 2020, 11:20:01 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 26, 2020, 04:56:57 AM
This one was a hit. And truthfully, I'm stunned that it was also a hit for Tim. Seems way to 'power-metal' for his liking. And no growls!

Quote from: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 05:03:28 AM
Funny, I thought it sounds exactly like something Tim would definitely be into. Doesn't need growls if it's fucking excellent metal with great, balls out singing. He sounds like Biff a lot on this album.

So like a lot of things, there's always a fine line.

Vocally, I like this. He sounds a little less rougher than Mark Tornillo.

I do like Power Metal. But there's lots of it I don't care for too. Usually always comes down to the vocals, sound, and songs. But I'm all for the style.

But Lightbringer is closer to classic metal of Accept/Saxon that I really like.

I do through my new albums every Friday, and it seems like anything with clean vocals just isn't interesting enough. Most of the intriguing music has harsh vocals. Last Friday was so refreshing because I Saved a bunch of good albums with clean vocals.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 11:43:44 AM: I avoided listening to that because the album cover looked like growls to the max.

Listening now :metal :metal

Singer is a totally a cross between Mark Tornillo and Biff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 26, 2020, 02:23:25 PM: I would never recommend an album to any of you guys if I didn't think you'd personally like it. I've sent every one of you guys recommendations, but that's because while listening, I think, jeez _______ might like this.

And I sure wouldn't post anything with growls in this thread. I'll just PM Wolfking personally. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 03:44:48 PM: Nothing can be too "power metal" for Tim. His favorite albums are Keeper of the Seven Keys, which started power metal.

And that is a smart decision to keep the growls out of this thread, nobody besides Tim and Wolf want them lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 26, 2020, 03:55:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 03:44:48 PM
Nothing can be too "power metal" for Tim. His favorite albums are Keeper of the Seven Keys, which started power metal.

Exactly! Plus I believe that Accept's Fast As A Shark was the blueprint.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 03:58:31 PM: Yes Helloween gets the credit but Accept deserves the recognition.

Accept :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 04:18:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 26, 2020, 03:55:09 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 03:44:48 PM
Nothing can be too "power metal" for Tim. His favorite albums are Keeper of the Seven Keys, which started power metal.

Exactly! Plus I believe that Accept's Fast As A Shark was the blueprint.

Valid. Kai Hansen just took it to a new level with Jericho.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 04:21:17 PM: That's a solid valid answer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 26, 2020, 04:23:16 PM: Fast As A Shark has that wicked double bass romp with a very melodic chorus.

Accept was sneaky melodic. They really bridged the gap from the NWOBHM to European Power Metal. I have always loved 80's Accept and rate them as a favorite band.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 08:04:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 26, 2020, 04:23:16 PM
Fast As A Shark has that wicked double bass romp with a very melodic chorus.

Accept was sneaky melodic. They really bridged the gap from the NWOBHM to European Power Metal. I have always loved 80's Accept and rate them as a favorite band.

Sounds like you've just cemented another listening party.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 08:07:22 PM: a UFO and Accept listening party..........whoa
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 26, 2020, 08:07:53 PM: Hah!

I would love to! But the UFO one is going to damn near kill me. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 08:08:14 PM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 08:08:28 PM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 26, 2020, 08:08:50 PM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 08:09:54 PM: An Accept listening party by Tim would be :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 26, 2020, 08:27:23 PM: :metal

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2020, 08:27:51 PM: Balls to the F&^*ing Walls
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 01, 2020, 05:53:07 AM: Wolfking, your PM inbox is full again!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2020, 06:04:51 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 01, 2020, 05:53:07 AM
Wolfking, your PM inbox is full again!

Argh!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 01, 2020, 05:20:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 01, 2020, 05:53:07 AM
Wolfking, your PM inbox is full again!

It's full of metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on August 01, 2020, 07:18:42 PM: The new Dee Snider live record is awesome. 6 songs from For The Love of Metal, 7 Twisted Sister songs, a cover and a new song.

His live band is ridiculously good - two of the guys played in Toxic Holocaust, so they're thrashers. They inject a lot of heaviness and beef up those old Twisted songs. And Dee is just flat out amazing. I'm not a fan of the editing - they mixed footage from a daytime festival, a nighttime festival and an indoor club show. The stage outfits change from shot to shot and he'll have his sunglasses on, then off, then on again. The concert is also intercut with some interview footage in between songs.

Other than that, I'm really happy to have a live album from that cycle. He played some festival shows for that record, but never did a club tour here in the US. I'd have gone to see him in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 01, 2020, 07:45:49 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 01, 2020, 05:20:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 01, 2020, 05:53:07 AM
Wolfking, your PM inbox is full again!

It's full of metal :metal

:lol

Quote from: Grappler on August 01, 2020, 07:18:42 PM
The new Dee Snider live record is awesome. 6 songs from For The Love of Metal, 7 Twisted Sister songs, a cover and a new song.

His live band is ridiculously good - two of the guys played in Toxic Holocaust, so they're thrashers. They inject a lot of heaviness and beef up those old Twisted songs. And Dee is just flat out amazing. I'm not a fan of the editing - they mixed footage from a daytime festival, a nighttime festival and an indoor club show. The stage outfits change from shot to shot and he'll have his sunglasses on, then off, then on again. The concert is also intercut with some interview footage in between songs.

Other than that, I'm really happy to have a live album from that cycle. He played some festival shows for that record, but never did a club tour here in the US. I'd have gone to see him in a heartbeat.

That's good to hear. I'm planning on checking it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 04:02:24 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 01, 2020, 05:20:29 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 01, 2020, 05:53:07 AM
Wolfking, your PM inbox is full again!

It's full of metal :metal

I literally laughed out loud!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 02, 2020, 04:46:16 AM: Kade is full of metal! 🤘🤘🤘
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2020, 05:16:09 AM: RROOOAAAAARRR!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 02, 2020, 09:32:15 AM: I will also add that Wolf is made of metal :metal. Plus his circuits gleam and he is also perpetual. Most importantly he keeps his country clean.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 08, 2020, 05:32:22 PM: Just watched the Y&T documentary- really enjoyed it. I love this band. It was bloody expensive though.
All I can say is “fuck you Phil” 😭
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 08, 2020, 05:33:40 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 08, 2020, 05:32:22 PM
Just watched the Y&T documentary- really enjoyed it. I love this band. It was bloody expensive though.
All I can say is “fuck you Phil” 😭

Where was this documentary?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 09, 2020, 02:18:24 AM: That would be a cool documentary to watch. Y&T had most of the check boxes to be a huge band, but never really got there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 03:33:39 AM: Dave is a very underrated guitar player.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 03:36:11 AM: I gotta say, that Cathagods album Tim pimped is absolutely amazing. Definitely in the list of top albums of the year.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 04:04:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 03:36:11 AM
I gotta say, that Cathagods album Tim pimped is absolutely amazing. Definitely in the list of top albums of the year.

I have an album called The Monster In Me from 2019 - is there another after that? I am waaaay behind on everything at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 05:05:46 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 04:04:08 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 03:36:11 AM
I gotta say, that Cathagods album Tim pimped is absolutely amazing. Definitely in the list of top albums of the year.

I have an album called The Monster In Me from 2019 - is there another after that? I am waaaay behind on everything at the moment.

No, that's the one. I didn't know it was from last year. Just pimped it, I just must have thought it was new.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 09, 2020, 05:09:20 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 08, 2020, 05:33:40 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 08, 2020, 05:32:22 PM
Just watched the Y&T documentary- really enjoyed it. I love this band. It was bloody expensive though.
All I can say is “fuck you Phil” 😭

Where was this documentary?

The band commissioned it themselves and used Kickstarter to fund it. You can buy it through their site but I watched it on Amazon. It was expensive but a cheaper option than buying the disk and paying import duty. No bonus features either which is a pain.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2020, 05:55:22 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 05:05:46 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 04:04:08 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 03:36:11 AM
I gotta say, that Cathagods album Tim pimped is absolutely amazing. Definitely in the list of top albums of the year.

I have an album called The Monster In Me from 2019 - is there another after that? I am waaaay behind on everything at the moment.

No, that's the one. I didn't know it was from last year. Just pimped it, I just must have thought it was new.

Spotify has mis-labeled it as a 2020 release. I'm finding it more and more enjoyable with each listen. Their prior release was fairly meh
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 09, 2020, 06:50:04 AM: It came across my new album ticker. Maybe it got some sort of rerelease. Not sure.

Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 04:04:08 AM
I have an album called The Monster In Me from 2019 - is there another after that?

How would you have it? Where did you hear of it, and why didn't you tell us about it??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 10:19:21 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 09, 2020, 06:50:04 AM

Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 04:04:08 AM
I have an album called The Monster In Me from 2019 - is there another after that?

How would you have it? Where did you hear of it, and why didn't you tell us about it??

No idea. No idea . Maybe not enough growls? :biggrin: I haven't been posting a great deal period.....probably decided to wait until I found time to properly check out the album and never did. I still haven't listened to the full album but must've liked what I sampled enough to get it.

The last 18 months is a bit of a blur but I have still tried to at least partially keep across rare albums that may be of interest to us.......sampling plenty and getting a few. Just never got around to properly following up , listening/posting etc....... I have a gigantic list somewhere around here .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 09, 2020, 10:24:07 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 10:19:21 AM
I have a gigantic list somewhere around here .

You should assign each of us like 5 albums to listen to and review.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 09, 2020, 12:54:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 09, 2020, 10:24:07 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 10:19:21 AM
I have a gigantic list somewhere around here .

You should assign each of us like 5 albums to listen to and review.

Hard Rock Homework 😆
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 02:10:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 10:19:21 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 09, 2020, 06:50:04 AM

Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 04:04:08 AM
I have an album called The Monster In Me from 2019 - is there another after that?

How would you have it? Where did you hear of it, and why didn't you tell us about it??

No idea. No idea . Maybe not enough growls? :biggrin: I haven't been posting a great deal period.....probably decided to wait until I found time to properly check out the album and never did. I still haven't listened to the full album but must've liked what I sampled enough to get it.

The last 18 months is a bit of a blur but I have still tried to at least partially keep across rare albums that may be of interest to us.......sampling plenty and getting a few. Just never got around to properly following up , listening/posting etc....... I have a gigantic list somewhere around here .

Where are you buying your stuff from?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 02:10:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 09, 2020, 10:24:07 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 10:19:21 AM
I have a gigantic list somewhere around here .

You should assign each of us like 5 albums to listen to and review.

Interesting idea.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 09, 2020, 02:28:30 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 09, 2020, 10:24:07 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 10:19:21 AM
I have a gigantic list somewhere around here .

You should assign each of us like 5 albums to listen to and review.

Interesting idea.

Just waiting for the shaming.. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 02:39:40 PM: :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2020, 03:32:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 09, 2020, 10:24:07 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 10:19:21 AM
I have a gigantic list somewhere around here .

You should assign each of us like 5 albums to listen to and review.

Interesting idea.

I’d be down for this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 06:13:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 09, 2020, 02:10:29 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 10:19:21 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 09, 2020, 06:50:04 AM

Quote from: bl5150 on August 09, 2020, 04:04:08 AM
I have an album called The Monster In Me from 2019 - is there another after that?

How would you have it? Where did you hear of it, and why didn't you tell us about it??

No idea. No idea . Maybe not enough growls? :biggrin: I haven't been posting a great deal period.....probably decided to wait until I found time to properly check out the album and never did. I still haven't listened to the full album but must've liked what I sampled enough to get it.

The last 18 months is a bit of a blur but I have still tried to at least partially keep across rare albums that may be of interest to us.......sampling plenty and getting a few. Just never got around to properly following up , listening/posting etc....... I have a gigantic list somewhere around here .

Where are you buying your stuff from?

Almost all digital these days but I am so used to hunting things down that if I want a CD/album locally I can usually find it or know someone who can help. I have a decent network who will "copy a tape" for me when I cannot source something rare myself :lol Sometimes some nice person will send me a promo too , but happens less these days .

There is a local Ebay store that has it on CD

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CARTHAGODS-MONSTER-IN-ME-NEW-CD/293660315792?hash=item445f84d090:g:UQ4AAOSwFKtfGhK8&frcectupt=true

Looks like I got this particular one in mp3 via Amazon music.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2020, 12:17:56 AM: Wow, that store has 10 copies! :lol must have brought Australias whole supply.

I've used Amazon to purchase cd's before. It's okay.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on August 10, 2020, 02:45:06 AM: 38 bucks for a CD is steep, I only pay that much for Japan imports.
That said music is pretty good, but that voice I actually thought it was Rick Altzi, an absolute dead-ringer for him.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2020, 05:30:23 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on August 10, 2020, 02:45:06 AM
38 bucks for a CD is steep, I only pay that much for Japan imports.
That said music is pretty good, but that voice I actually thought it was Rick Altzi, an absolute dead-ringer for him.

Both Chad and I said the same thing. I actually checked to see if it was him. He also reminds me of David Draiman from Disturbed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 12, 2020, 10:35:49 AM: https://youtu.be/Ql3PAxkQy1s

New Armoured Saint
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2020, 01:40:22 PM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 12, 2020, 05:24:33 PM: Nice................. heavy and melodic :metal Got my attention!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 06:16:51 PM: Bad ass! :metal :metal

Can't wait for the album. I love this band so much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 06:38:02 PM: http://bravewords.com/news/accept-singer-mark-tornillo-s-26-year-old-son-michael-tyler-tornillo-passes-away

This is awful.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2020, 06:10:26 AM: Posting here, cuz it sure as hell doesn't belong in the Frontiers thread! Nice to see they got a deal with a major label.

Quote
Danish Progressive Power Metal group PYRAMAZE has just inked a record deal in order to put out their next full-length studio album called “Epitaph” via AFM Records. The album will be released on November 13th – pre-order starts now.

Both AFM Records and PYRAMAZE are extremely happy about the deal and are looking forward to a strong, professional and hopefully long partnership. This new musical union offers good prospects for both parties – while PYRAMAZE found a partner that has great expertise working with a lot of successful Progressive and Power Metal artist such as Evergrey, Orden Ogan, Redemption, Brothers Of Metal and many more, the band offers a tremendous amount of musical and technical craftmanship and quality to add to the labels roster.

This album being the third one with their current lineup, PYRAMAZE continues to fuse their signature meld of memorable melodies, powerful riffs and soaring catchy vocals to keep listeners coming back for more - pleasing both old and new PYRAMAZE fans alike. This upcoming release will prove to be their most melodic and accessible creation to date, featuring guest appearances by Brittney Slayes of Unleash the Archers, and former PYRAMAZE singers Matt Barlow and Lance King.

The first single to appear very soon, so keep an eye on the band’s and label’s social media channels.

“Epitaph” is available here: https://shop.afm-records.de/pyramaze/

(https://scontent.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/117532001_10157118903875810_2045834748389052509_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=zlhLp_riIMYAX_IwuPx&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz2-2.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=71823aaa220947e1b9c64e45d807972f&oe=5F59EF6F)

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F1309.gif&hash=db49b421e0481cf2f6aa21270fd4a7ba94194f94)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2020, 06:21:28 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 12, 2020, 06:38:02 PM
http://bravewords.com/news/accept-singer-mark-tornillo-s-26-year-old-son-michael-tyler-tornillo-passes-away

This is awful.

Fuckin' hell. I'm not a father but that must be the most heartbreaking thing ever. Awful.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2020, 06:23:26 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 13, 2020, 06:10:26 AM
Posting here, cuz it sure as hell doesn't belong in the Frontiers thread! Nice to see they got a deal with a major label.

Quote
Danish Progressive Power Metal group PYRAMAZE has just inked a record deal in order to put out their next full-length studio album called “Epitaph” via AFM Records. The album will be released on November 13th – pre-order starts now.

Both AFM Records and PYRAMAZE are extremely happy about the deal and are looking forward to a strong, professional and hopefully long partnership. This new musical union offers good prospects for both parties – while PYRAMAZE found a partner that has great expertise working with a lot of successful Progressive and Power Metal artist such as Evergrey, Orden Ogan, Redemption, Brothers Of Metal and many more, the band offers a tremendous amount of musical and technical craftmanship and quality to add to the labels roster.

This album being the third one with their current lineup, PYRAMAZE continues to fuse their signature meld of memorable melodies, powerful riffs and soaring catchy vocals to keep listeners coming back for more - pleasing both old and new PYRAMAZE fans alike. This upcoming release will prove to be their most melodic and accessible creation to date, featuring guest appearances by Brittney Slayes of Unleash the Archers, and former PYRAMAZE singers Matt Barlow and Lance King.

The first single to appear very soon, so keep an eye on the band’s and label’s social media channels.

“Epitaph” is available here: https://shop.afm-records.de/pyramaze/

(https://scontent.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/117532001_10157118903875810_2045834748389052509_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=zlhLp_riIMYAX_IwuPx&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz2-2.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=71823aaa220947e1b9c64e45d807972f&oe=5F59EF6F)

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F1309.gif&hash=db49b421e0481cf2f6aa21270fd4a7ba94194f94)

Get in me!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on August 13, 2020, 07:39:59 AM: Wow, guest spots by Matt Barlow, Lance King and Britney Slays? :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2020, 03:59:08 PM: If all 3 singers are on the one track, that's going to be epic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2020, 04:12:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 13, 2020, 03:59:08 PM
If all 3 singers are on the one track, that's going to be epic.

It was pretty epic when Barlow showed up at PPUSA a couple years back, and they did exactly this (Lance King was their for his record label to pimp his inventory in the merch room - I think he's there every year).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2020, 10:57:20 AM: Seems S-X have rescheduled the tour, almost 1-year to the date (it's literally the exact same date for Toronto).

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WE are truly excited to announce that our 25th Anniversary Tour with Primal Fear and Firewind has been rescheduled to May/June 2021!
We truly can't wait to see you all in 2021!

Get your tickets here --> https://bnds.us/zwnq7z

2021-05-12 Reverb Reading, PA
2021-05-13 bergenPAC (Bergen Performing Arts Center), NJ
2021-05-14 Worcester Palladium, Worcester, MA
2021-05-15 Mulcahy's Pub & Concert Hall, Wantagh, NY
2021-05-16 The Chance Theater, Poughkeepsie, NY
2021-05-18 The Fairmount , Montreal, QC
2021-05-19 Impérial Bell, Quebec City, QC
2021-05-21 The Phoenix Concert Theatre, Toronto, ON
2021-05-22 The Agora, Cleveland, OH
2021-05-23 The Token Lounge, Westland, MI
2021-05-25 The Forge, Joliet, IL
2021-05-26 The Cabooze, Minneapolis, MN
2021-05-28 The Starlite Room, Edmonton, AB
2021-05-29 The Gateway, Calgary, AB
2021-05-31 El Corazon, Seattle, WA
2021-06-01 VENUE, Vancouver, BC
2021-06-03 Hawthorne Theatre, Portland, OR
2021-06-04 Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, CA
2021-06-05 Whisky A Go-Go, West Hollywood, CA
2021-06-06 Grove of Anaheim, Anaheim, CA
2021-06-07 Club Red, Tempe, AZ
2021-06-09 Sunshine Theater, Albuquerque, NM
2021-06-10 Herman's Hideaway, Denver, CO
2021-06-12 Trees Dallas, Dallas, TX
2021-06-13 Come and Take It Live, Austin, TX
2021-06-14 Scout Bar, Houston, TX
2021-06-16 The Kelsey Theater, West Palm Beach, FL
2021-06-17 The RITZ Ybor, Ybor City, FL
2021-06-18 Center Stage - The Loft - Vinyl, Atlanta, GA
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2020, 04:42:27 PM: Managed to pick up the new Primal Fear 2cd version yesterday. Won't be able to listen til Sunday night but looking forward to cranking this one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2020, 05:24:14 PM: Curious to see what you think of it
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2020, 06:33:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 14, 2020, 05:24:14 PM
Curious to see what you think of it

To be honest I haven't really liked the singles much I always seem to come round to them in the context of an album format.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 14, 2020, 06:59:32 PM: My money is on "solid".
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2020, 09:44:52 PM: Reading all the responses on social media ....Pete Way had a huge impact on many people and musicians

:metal UFO
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 15, 2020, 05:22:23 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2020, 06:59:32 PM
My money is on "solid".

I thought it was rock solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2020, 04:57:51 AM: I Will Be Gone.

What the fuck is this doing in the middle of a Primal Fear album??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 16, 2020, 05:08:10 AM: No good?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2020, 05:25:02 AM: Is Ralf saying 'bugger off' in Leave Me Alone? :rollin :rollin :rollin WTF!?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2020, 05:26:32 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 16, 2020, 05:08:10 AM
No good?

Pretty much the same, but really quite decent. Halo was excellent and Banshee also ripped. Infinity is a great closer, but I didn't really understand the outro.

Just listening to the bonus disc now. I'd say the first disc was 'really solid.'
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2020, 05:30:48 AM: Damn, can't find lyrics on the net for Leave Me Alone.

The lyrics on Second to None sound just as cheesy. I guess I can see why they chose to put these tracks on a seperate disc to the same actual disc as the album. :lol

Second to None sounds like a heavier Vega song lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2020, 05:33:23 AM: Crucify Me rips. Should have been on disc 1.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 16, 2020, 07:02:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 16, 2020, 05:25:02 AM
Is Ralf saying 'bugger off' in Leave Me Alone? :rollin :rollin :rollin WTF!?

Must've picked that up on the Aussie tour. :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2020, 02:32:52 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 16, 2020, 07:02:36 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 16, 2020, 05:25:02 AM
Is Ralf saying 'bugger off' in Leave Me Alone? :rollin :rollin :rollin WTF!?

Must've picked that up on the Aussie tour. :D

Lol yeah, crazy. He mustn't be. I must be hearing it wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 16, 2020, 03:32:56 PM: Usually Primal Fear has the lyrics in the cd booklet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 16, 2020, 03:45:33 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 16, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
Usually Primal Fear has the lyrics in the cd booklet.

No lyrics for the bonus cd tracks.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2020, 06:56:10 PM: Wow, Infinity is some song. That chorus melody is huge and I love the lyrics.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 17, 2020, 08:16:35 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2020, 06:56:10 PM
Wow, Infinity is some song. That chorus melody is huge and I love the lyrics.

Hell yes. I listened to this a few pages ago in this thread. I actually forgot I did until you mentioned Infinity, which is indeed awesome!
I just can't get through an entire album of Ralf in one go.
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Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2020, 08:25:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 17, 2020, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2020, 06:56:10 PM
Wow, Infinity is some song. That chorus melody is huge and I love the lyrics.

Hell yes. I listened to this a few pages ago in this thread. I actually forgot I did until you mentioned Infinity, which is indeed awesome!
I just can't get through an entire album of Ralf in one go.

Yeah I remember you saying it was a SOTY nomination. First listen I wasn't so sure, but 3 listens in and holy shit, this song is unbelievalbe. It's very simple, but the whole atmosphere of it is just really comforting. The verses are so straightforward but powerful and that chorus is so strong. This actually gives me an older Gamma Ray feel for some reason. Could be one of Magnus' best choruses. These lyrics strike a chord with me;

I can't stop thinking about you, it's burning my soul
I'm fighting my demons, I just wanna die here alone
I walk through the ruins of my life, there's nowhere to go
Bury my dreams, let me bleed, I'm alive and not gone

and this line;

Bullets can't hurt me, my heart died a long time ago

Holy shit.

The outro made more sense when I listened to it in the car this morning and the power of the song really came to light.

The album is pretty good. It's good to see Tom writing a few more and adds some diversity. It's a pretty damn good album. The band have released strong work every 2 years since 2012. That's impressive.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 17, 2020, 10:15:13 PM: Still not in the same stratosphere as “Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove”
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Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2020, 10:56:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 17, 2020, 10:15:13 PM
Still not in the same stratosphere as “Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove”

This is probably the most bizarre choice for a bonus track ever! Like why was this only a bonus track? :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 17, 2020, 11:29:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2020, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 17, 2020, 10:15:13 PM
Still not in the same stratosphere as “Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove”

This is probably the most bizarre choice for a bonus track ever! Like why was this only a bonus track? :lol

I’m sure we have both listened to a shit ton of Primal Fear.......best song ever from Primal Fear? Not sure it’s even worth a debate lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 17, 2020, 11:39:57 PM: Not many metal tracks where I’ve stopped in my tracks and done a double turn at the metal awesomeness ......another example is Queensryche- Queen of the Reich.......Rollercoaster from Primal Fear also deserves honourable mention from the band itself
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Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 05:39:21 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 17, 2020, 11:29:55 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2020, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 17, 2020, 10:15:13 PM
Still not in the same stratosphere as “Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove”

This is probably the most bizarre choice for a bonus track ever! Like why was this only a bonus track? :lol

I’m sure we have both listened to a shit ton of Primal Fear.......best song ever from Primal Fear? Not sure it’s even worth a debate lol

You know, I don't think I've ever really thought about a best of list for PF. Wouldn't know where to start there's so much good shit.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 18, 2020, 06:23:03 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2020, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 17, 2020, 10:15:13 PM
Still not in the same stratosphere as “Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove”

This is probably the most bizarre choice for a bonus track ever! Like why was this only a bonus track? :lol

I have always found Primal Fear a bit hot and cold................sometimes samey............but Jay sent me that track in a roulette (I must've had them as one of my "convince me" bands) and yeah - might've got Jay a 10 that one :lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 06:51:08 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 18, 2020, 06:23:03 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 17, 2020, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 17, 2020, 10:15:13 PM
Still not in the same stratosphere as “Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove”

This is probably the most bizarre choice for a bonus track ever! Like why was this only a bonus track? :lol

I have always found Primal Fear a bit hot and cold................sometimes samey............but Jay sent me that track in a roulette (I must've had them as one of my "convince me" bands) and yeah - might've got Jay a 10 that one :lol

I remember that now you mention it.

Hard to believe they are up to 13 albums. I might have a crack at a top 20 or something after I do my Maiden list.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 18, 2020, 08:47:18 AM: Had a casual listen to the PF the other day but wasn't really concentrating. Nothing was grabbing me and Ralph's vocals on the first song were putting me off. Sounded weak and shrill.Will give it a proper go soon, at a decent volume - that might help.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2020, 10:46:07 AM: Seven Seals is the earliest release I have. I also have Metal Is Forever compilation, so that's the extent of my pre 2005 PF. I skipped New Religion (not sure why), but have everything since 16.6.

Very much looking forward to the S-X/PF/Firewind show next May (assuming it happens).
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Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 04:05:22 PM: Nuclear Fire and Black Sun are classics.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2020, 04:14:38 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 04:05:22 PM
Nuclear Fire and Black Sun are classics.

Yeah, I spun Nuclear Fire today, and fuck was it good. Really struggling with whether I should buy it. I mean, I already have 7 PF albums that I don't listen to frequently enough - and that doesn't even count Metal Commando! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 05:19:16 PM: I'm pretty sure I've seen a package with like the first 5 albums for a good price. Something along those lines anyway.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 18, 2020, 05:25:57 PM: The cover tunes on that Metal is Forever album are :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 06:55:20 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 18, 2020, 05:25:57 PM
The cover tunes on that Metal is Forever album are :metal :metal

Yeah, that's an awesome covers album.
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Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 06:56:11 PM: This is what I was thinking of Chad.

https://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/tontraeger/cd/cd-boxset/primal-fear-the-nuclear-blast-recordings-6cd.html
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2020, 07:02:31 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 06:56:11 PM
This is what I was thinking of Chad.

https://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/tontraeger/cd/cd-boxset/primal-fear-the-nuclear-blast-recordings-6cd.html

Well damn. If it wasn’t for the fact that shipping to Canada is almost the same price as the box set itself, I would have considered it.
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Post by: TAC on August 18, 2020, 07:15:46 PM: :corn
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 18, 2020, 07:57:25 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 18, 2020, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 06:56:11 PM
This is what I was thinking of Chad.

https://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/tontraeger/cd/cd-boxset/primal-fear-the-nuclear-blast-recordings-6cd.html

Well damn. If it wasn’t for the fact that shipping to Canada is almost the same price as the box set itself, I would have considered it.

Just think, it will arrive a few weeks before May 21st, 2021.
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Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 11:37:44 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 18, 2020, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 06:56:11 PM
This is what I was thinking of Chad.

https://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/tontraeger/cd/cd-boxset/primal-fear-the-nuclear-blast-recordings-6cd.html

Well damn. If it wasn’t for the fact that shipping to Canada is almost the same price as the box set itself, I would have considered it.

I'm sure if you searched you may be able to find it locally no?
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 19, 2020, 02:38:46 AM: Like usual with a Wolfster response......... :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on August 19, 2020, 03:39:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 11:40:57 PM
Am I the only one who really couldn't give a shit about this?

;D
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 19, 2020, 03:54:38 PM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2020, 11:55:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 19, 2020, 03:39:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 18, 2020, 11:40:57 PM
Am I the only one who really couldn't give a shit about this?

;D

I think the answer is yes.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2020, 04:18:45 AM: Wolfster :metal
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2020, 06:28:16 AM: Damn, the new Pyramaze song is awesome

https://youtu.be/-DcCPYiNu20
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Post by: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:57:22 AM: I like it , although I hear a LOT of very familiar sounds. Hansen is a deadringer for someone I can't put my finger on at the moment - perhaps the dude from Saint Daemon- and I also reckon their current sound is heavily influenced by a band called Divided Multitude (who yes....were around before Pyramaze). The other thing I struggle with is the production - as soon as it started I was a bit put off. Just such a wall of muddy sound.

All that said , I found it a pleasant listen :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on August 21, 2020, 08:52:47 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:57:22 AM
I like it , although I hear a LOT of very familiar sounds. Hansen is a deadringer for someone I can't put my finger on at the moment - perhaps the dude from Saint Daemon- and I also reckon their current sound is heavily influenced by a band called Divided Multitude (who yes....were around before Pyramaze). The other thing I struggle with is the production - as soon as it started I was a bit put off. Just such a wall of muddy sound.

All that said , I found it a pleasant listen :lol

I liked that but yeah, the muddiness probably comes down to 7 string guitars. i hate them.
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Post by: TAC on August 21, 2020, 01:16:06 PM: Frankie Banali RIP

http://bravewords.com/news/quiet-riot-drummer-frankie-banali-dead-at-68

Feel so bad for the guy.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2020, 01:22:09 PM: Quiet Riot is a great band. Metal Health I believe was the first metal album to go to number one and Slave to the Grind was the first to debut at number 1.

I remember watching Behind the Music on QR; they definitely rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Still can’t deny that awesomeness of the Metal Health album :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2020, 01:27:18 PM: Sad news about Frankie
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2020, 03:45:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 21, 2020, 01:16:06 PM
Frankie Banali RIP

http://bravewords.com/news/quiet-riot-drummer-frankie-banali-dead-at-68

Feel so bad for the guy.

Awful. I don't think it's a big shock after his run of illness. Still very young.
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Post by: TAC on August 21, 2020, 03:46:58 PM: It's been a bad week and a half.
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2020, 03:49:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:57:22 AM
I like it , although I hear a LOT of very familiar sounds. Hansen is a deadringer for someone I can't put my finger on at the moment - perhaps the dude from Saint Daemon- and I also reckon their current sound is heavily influenced by a band called Divided Multitude (who yes....were around before Pyramaze). The other thing I struggle with is the production - as soon as it started I was a bit put off. Just such a wall of muddy sound.

All that said , I found it a pleasant listen :lol

Are you talking vocals? Because the vocalist is Terje Haroy. But yeah I can hear the Saint Deamon sound actually. I only have Pandemonium but it's a pretty good album. Will have to check Divide Multitude.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 21, 2020, 06:12:53 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 21, 2020, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:57:22 AM
I like it , although I hear a LOT of very familiar sounds. Hansen is a deadringer for someone I can't put my finger on at the moment - perhaps the dude from Saint Daemon- and I also reckon their current sound is heavily influenced by a band called Divided Multitude (who yes....were around before Pyramaze). The other thing I struggle with is the production - as soon as it started I was a bit put off. Just such a wall of muddy sound.

All that said , I found it a pleasant listen :lol

Are you talking vocals? Because the vocalist is Terje Haroy. But yeah I can hear the Saint Deamon sound actually. I only have Pandemonium but it's a pretty good album. Will have to check Divide Multitude.

Check 2019's Faceless Aggressor. Most excellent album
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Post by: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:50:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 21, 2020, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:57:22 AM
I like it , although I hear a LOT of very familiar sounds. Hansen is a deadringer for someone I can't put my finger on at the moment - perhaps the dude from Saint Daemon- and I also reckon their current sound is heavily influenced by a band called Divided Multitude (who yes....were around before Pyramaze). The other thing I struggle with is the production - as soon as it started I was a bit put off. Just such a wall of muddy sound.

All that said , I found it a pleasant listen :lol

Are you talking vocals? Because the vocalist is Terje Haroy.

Yeah ........had guitarists on the mind while typing and prepping lessons :lol

RIP Frankie :-\ Not a great fan of what he did to Quiet Riot post-Dubrow (on and off the stage) - his work on WASP's The Headless Children was huge and what I mostly remember him for. :metal
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Post by: Grappler on August 21, 2020, 07:15:17 PM: That sucks about Frankie Banali. I always respected him for keeping Quiet Riot going, even though I never cared for the tunes, aside from the classics - Metal Health is such an amazing song.

This is my favorite performance of his...the drums on Chainsaw Charlie from WASP's The Crimson Idol are fucking amazing. :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz5ax83Yzb0
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Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2020, 07:17:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:50:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 21, 2020, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:57:22 AM
I like it , although I hear a LOT of very familiar sounds. Hansen is a deadringer for someone I can't put my finger on at the moment - perhaps the dude from Saint Daemon- and I also reckon their current sound is heavily influenced by a band called Divided Multitude (who yes....were around before Pyramaze). The other thing I struggle with is the production - as soon as it started I was a bit put off. Just such a wall of muddy sound.

All that said , I found it a pleasant listen :lol

Are you talking vocals? Because the vocalist is Terje Haroy.

Yeah ........had guitarists on the mind while typing and prepping lessons :lol

RIP Frankie :-\ Not a great fan of what he did to Quiet Riot post-Dubrow (on and off the stage) - his work on WASP's The Headless Children was huge and what I mostly remember him for. :metal

Same. Especially the few tracks on TCI too plus Still Not Black Enough which I always found very underrated.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2020, 07:38:00 PM: Brent, what do you have for a rating for the Quiet Riot album with Paul Shortino? I’ve only heard a few songs from that one, but thought they were pretty good.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 07:57:48 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 07:29:49 PM
The guitars/writing were often so basic with QR my ear just drifted..........I actually listened more to the album with Shortino that everyone else hates :lol

Everyone else except JJ :biggrin:
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2020, 08:12:46 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 07:57:48 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 08, 2020, 07:29:49 PM
The guitars/writing were often so basic with QR my ear just drifted..........I actually listened more to the album with Shortino that everyone else hates :lol

Everyone else except JJ :biggrin:

😂
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Post by: El Barto on August 22, 2020, 10:20:43 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 21, 2020, 07:17:32 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:50:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 21, 2020, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 21, 2020, 06:57:22 AM
I like it , although I hear a LOT of very familiar sounds. Hansen is a deadringer for someone I can't put my finger on at the moment - perhaps the dude from Saint Daemon- and I also reckon their current sound is heavily influenced by a band called Divided Multitude (who yes....were around before Pyramaze). The other thing I struggle with is the production - as soon as it started I was a bit put off. Just such a wall of muddy sound.

All that said , I found it a pleasant listen :lol

Are you talking vocals? Because the vocalist is Terje Haroy.

Yeah ........had guitarists on the mind while typing and prepping lessons :lol

RIP Frankie :-\ Not a great fan of what he did to Quiet Riot post-Dubrow (on and off the stage) - his work on WASP's The Headless Children was huge and what I mostly remember him for. :metal

Same. Especially the few tracks on TCI too plus Still Not Black Enough which I always found very underrated.
I always thought TCI was overrated, but the first half of SNBE is a monster. A while back I did some reading on Banali's influences, and never once did he mention anything about Keith Moon. Yet his drumming on those WASP albums seemed to be him essentially channeling Moon. At times he's not even using the hi hat. I know Blackie was a big fan, so he might have steered Frankie in that direction, but he did a great job at it.
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Post by: ozzy554 on August 22, 2020, 03:17:48 PM: Crimson Idol and Dying for the World are my top 2 favorite WASP albums. Never realized that he played with Blackie for that long
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Post by: TAC on August 22, 2020, 03:37:48 PM: Huh. I was out on WASP after The Electric Circus. I did buy the tape of THC, but I never really gave it a lot.

I've heard TCI, but I don't remember being all that blown away by that either.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 22, 2020, 04:29:24 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 22, 2020, 03:37:48 PM
Huh. I was out on WASP after The Electric Circus. I did buy the tape of THC, but I never really gave it a lot.

I've heard TCI, but I don't remember being all that blown away by that either.

I didn’t bother with them for a long time after a Crimson Idol (not sure why because I love that album) but al their albums have plenty of great songs.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2020, 08:33:22 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 22, 2020, 04:29:24 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 22, 2020, 03:37:48 PM
Huh. I was out on WASP after The Electric Circus. I did buy the tape of THC, but I never really gave it a lot.

I've heard TCI, but I don't remember being all that blown away by that either.

I didn’t bother with them for a long time after a Crimson Idol (not sure why because I love that album) but al their albums have plenty of great songs.

Ditto - I was really underwhelmed by Still Not Black Enough when it came out ........couldn't believe how "unheavy" it was and just stuck to the classics. All the samples I heard were very samey and I never checked out much again until Dying For The World. Still much prefer the classics (and keep hearing recycled riffs etc....) but he has done some good stuff in the back end of his career.

Blackie comes across pretty poor sometimes but his tribute to Frankie is quite beautiful

https://www.facebook.com/W.A.S.P.Nation/posts/3201195733299145
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Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2020, 08:34:43 PM: And a tribute to Yngwie by one of the greats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmN14-qnuk

Better synced than most music videos :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 22, 2020, 08:42:29 PM: Live the shot from the rear of the 4 dudes swaying back and forth. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 04:39:13 AM: Hmmm......I pretty much know every WASP album front to back, especially the later ones. Maybe after Tim does his UFO one I should look at doing one of these listening parties. Would love to give my views on all these albums and share my WASP journey.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2020, 06:08:17 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 04:39:13 AM
Hmmm......I pretty much know every WASP album front to back, especially the later ones. Maybe after Tim does his UFO one I should look at doing one of these listening parties. Would love to give my views on all these albums and share my WASP journey.

Would most definitely follow. I’ve got albums - THC, TCI, Babylon and Golgotha. I think I may have spun s/t and Dominator once.
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 06:09:39 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 23, 2020, 06:08:17 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 04:39:13 AM
Hmmm......I pretty much know every WASP album front to back, especially the later ones. Maybe after Tim does his UFO one I should look at doing one of these listening parties. Would love to give my views on all these albums and share my WASP journey.

Would most definitely follow. I’ve got albums - THC, TCI, Babylon and Golgotha. I think I may have spun s/t and Dominator once.

There's so many more albums too.
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 06:10:12 AM: Quote from: ozzy554 on August 22, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
Crimson Idol and Dying for the World are my top 2 favorite WASP albums. Never realized that he played with Blackie for that long

Dying For The World is an absolute ripper.
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 06:13:20 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 22, 2020, 08:34:43 PM
And a tribute to Yngwie by one of the greats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmN14-qnuk

Better synced than most music videos :lol

Lol. That was fucking awesome.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2020, 07:27:01 AM: New Black Fate. :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPLtmcqVtDM

Didn't know they were working on an album. Lots of nice releases coming in the next couple of months that I'm looking forward to.
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Post by: TAC on August 23, 2020, 08:04:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 04:39:13 AM
Hmmm......I pretty much know every WASP album front to back, especially the later ones. Maybe after Tim does his UFO one I should look at doing one of these listening parties. Would love to give my views on all these albums and share my WASP journey.

Hell fucking yes. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2020, 08:19:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 04:39:13 AM
Hmmm......I pretty much know every WASP album front to back, especially the later ones. Maybe after Tim does his UFO one I should look at doing one of these listening parties. Would love to give my views on all these albums and share my WASP journey.

That would be awesome! For me, nothing tops the first album but I definitely haven’t heard everything from them.
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Post by: El Barto on August 23, 2020, 09:18:52 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 22, 2020, 08:34:43 PM
And a tribute to Yngwie by one of the greats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmN14-qnuk

Better synced than most music videos :lol
I like how he added the piped in Japanese crowd noise, just like the '85 show. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on August 23, 2020, 09:24:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 04:39:13 AM
Hmmm......I pretty much know every WASP album front to back, especially the later ones. Maybe after Tim does his UFO one I should look at doing one of these listening parties. Would love to give my views on all these albums and share my WASP journey.

DO IT!
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 02:05:41 PM: Time will be an issue by the time it rolls around but I'll start thinking about it.
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Post by: TAC on August 23, 2020, 02:43:15 PM: You have plenty of time. Orbert started the Jethro Tull on on May 19....three months ago!

The UFO one could be easily as long. I'm not settled on the pacing just yet.

Just plan on right after Christmas.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 23, 2020, 03:02:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 23, 2020, 02:43:15 PM
You have plenty of time. Orbert started the Jethro Tull on on May 19....three months ago!

The UFO one could be easily as long. I'm not settled on the pacing just yet.

Just plan on right after Christmas.

Nothing says Christmas more than W.A.S.P :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 23, 2020, 03:03:12 PM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2020, 03:17:51 PM: Still not great timing wise but plenty of time til then.

Quote from: jjrock88 on August 23, 2020, 03:02:55 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 23, 2020, 02:43:15 PM
You have plenty of time. Orbert started the Jethro Tull on on May 19....three months ago!

The UFO one could be easily as long. I'm not settled on the pacing just yet.

Just plan on right after Christmas.

Nothing says Christmas more than W.A.S.P :lol

Solid argument.
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Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2020, 05:31:14 AM: I'm really liking the new Primal Fear. Probably better than the last 2. Nowhere near DTB level but very enjoyable. Tom being more involved in the songwriting really gives this some freshness and Tom taking a lot more leads really gives it an old school PF vibe at times. Still not keen on Alex's leads though. He is a pretty uninspiring guitarist IMO.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 26, 2020, 11:40:43 AM: Haven’t heard the new one but can’t say that I was too overly impressed with the last two PF albums. They were good but nothing that grabbed me to replay them much.
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Post by: TAC on August 26, 2020, 04:41:24 PM: Can't say I'm at all familiar with Brighton Rock but more awful news. Just turned 58.

http://bravewords.com/news/brighton-rock-singer-gerry-mcghee-passes-away-from-cancer
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 26, 2020, 06:06:02 PM: Take a Deep Breath is an excellent album. They were pretty big up here in the mid/late 80s. Damn shame. He had a pretty distinctive voice.
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2020, 12:02:27 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 26, 2020, 11:40:43 AM
Haven’t heard the new one but can’t say that I was too overly impressed with the last two PF albums. They were good but nothing that grabbed me to replay them much.

More of the same but I do think this one will rank higher in the long run.
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2020, 01:14:35 PM: So I was listening to my best of 1981 Spotify playlist today while working outside.

These two songs really jumped out at me and deserve attention!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQZIhFQjUfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD2IUyfeTyM
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 31, 2020, 02:50:47 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2020, 01:14:35 PM
So I was listening to my best of 1981 Spotify playlist today while working outside.

These two songs really jumped out at me and deserve attention!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQZIhFQjUfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD2IUyfeTyM

Sign of the Gypsy Queen still gets a lot of radio airtime up here. I always considered April Wine to be like Canada's version of BoC. So many great rock n roll songs.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 31, 2020, 03:44:05 PM: Sign of the Gypsy Queen is one of my all time favs :metal :metal :metal :metal

I like all the Samson songs I’ve heard. Should have had a bit more success; I think they had some singer by the name of Bruce Bruce. Plus a lunatic masked wearing drummer named Thunderstick. That guy seemed cool 😎
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 31, 2020, 04:09:31 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 31, 2020, 03:44:05 PM
Sign of the Gypsy Queen is one of my all time favs :metal :metal :metal :metal

One of their lesser known beauties is Weeping Willow.
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2020, 06:35:24 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKCtHOICXtE

Kade, you punch the guitarist in the face and I'll kick the drummer's ass.

Brian Johnson WTF??
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Post by: gazinwales on September 01, 2020, 01:20:28 AM: It's alright for that era and the song isn't too bad at all.
I have never heard BJ sing properly before either.

Perhaps you should give yourself an upper cut?
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2020, 01:21:30 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2020, 06:35:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKCtHOICXtE

Kade, you punch the guitarist in the face and I'll kick the drummer's ass.

Brian Johnson WTF??

Lol. Can't wait to see what this is tonight. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2020, 01:22:38 AM: I reckon the guitarist looks a bit like someone I know :D
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Post by: TAC on September 01, 2020, 05:37:29 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on September 01, 2020, 01:20:28 AM
It's alright for that era and the song isn't too bad at all.

The song is damn nice! :lol
Totally earwormed me.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2020, 05:43:55 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on September 01, 2020, 01:20:28 AM
It's alright for that era and the song isn't too bad at all.
I have never heard BJ sing properly before either.

Perhaps you should give yourself an upper cut?

Disco-Metal!!! It’s like ABBA and Scorpions had a hate fuck. :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2020, 06:01:02 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2020, 06:35:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKCtHOICXtE

Kade, you punch the guitarist in the face and I'll kick the drummer's ass.

Brian Johnson WTF??

Ha! Not what I expected but I thought this was at least solid haha. His voice is awesome. The guitarist and the drummer do need a kicking with their carry on though.

The hair though, my God the hair!
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Post by: Lowdz on September 01, 2020, 06:05:14 AM: The only April Wine song I ever heard was I Like To Rock on the Monsters of Rock lp from the first MoR festival. Can't remember anything about it but I liked that song. i will give them some attention.

That's the first Geordie song I ever heard but wow, Brian could actually sing. Awful song and I won't be bothering with anything else, but was nice to see.
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2020, 06:15:52 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2020, 01:14:35 PM
So I was listening to my best of 1981 Spotify playlist today while working outside.

These two songs really jumped out at me and deserve attention!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQZIhFQjUfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD2IUyfeTyM

2 great tunes there. The April Wine had a wicked atmosphere.

I never checked Samson with Bruce. Not sure why. That rocked. The solo section gave me strong Mercyful Fate vibes.
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Post by: ozzy554 on September 01, 2020, 06:24:27 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2020, 06:35:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKCtHOICXtE

Kade, you punch the guitarist in the face and I'll kick the drummer's ass.

Brian Johnson WTF??

Man I had never heard early Brian before. Now I wish AC/DC had incorporated more of his range into their songs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 01, 2020, 06:30:48 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 01, 2020, 06:15:52 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2020, 01:14:35 PM
So I was listening to my best of 1981 Spotify playlist today while working outside.

These two songs really jumped out at me and deserve attention!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQZIhFQjUfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD2IUyfeTyM

2 great tunes there. The April Wine had a wicked atmosphere.

I never checked Samson with Bruce. Not sure why. That rocked. The solo section gave me strong Mercyful Fate vibes.

Shock Tactics and Head On are the only albums I've heard from Samson and both were decent.Bruce upped his game considerably on NotB.

There's a very familiar track on Head On, if you listen to Maiden's Killers.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2020, 04:45:04 PM: Tim, they just mentioned on the Boneyard about a new Thin Lizzy box set that’s coming out in October. He mentioned 74 unreleased tracks and a documentary. Have you heard about this?
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2020, 04:54:05 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 02, 2020, 04:45:04 PM
Tim, they just mentioned on the Boneyard about a new Thin Lizzy box set that’s coming out in October. He mentioned 74 unreleased tracks and a documentary. Have you heard about this?

Yes. But apparently demo versions of released songs count as unreleased songs. I was looking at the tracklist the other day.

http://bravewords.com/news/thin-lizzy-rock-legends-6-cd-dvd-box-set-to-include-74-previously-unreleased-songs-jailbreak-demo-streaming
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2020, 05:06:41 PM: I’m not familiar with some of those song titles. Are there any songs that you aren’t familiar with? I’m personally not a fan of when bands release demos as bonus tracks. I’ve never heard a demo that I liked better than the finished song; pretty much an immediate skip for me
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2020, 05:11:23 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 02, 2020, 05:06:41 PM
I’m not familiar with some of those song titles. Are there any songs that you aren’t familiar with? I’m personally not a fan of when bands release demos as bonus tracks. I’ve never heard a demo that I liked better than the finished song; pretty much an immediate skip for me

There's only a handful of tracks, but everything else has been released. I'm not interested. The only disc that would interest me would be the 1980 Chinatown show.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2020, 05:15:41 PM: Was just playing “Killer on the Loose”.......that song was rocks :metal
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2020, 05:16:58 PM: Chinatown is way underrated. Those two albums with Snowy White are great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2020, 06:11:35 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 02, 2020, 05:06:41 PM
I’m not familiar with some of those song titles. Are there any songs that you aren’t familiar with? I’m personally not a fan of when bands release demos as bonus tracks. I’ve never heard a demo that I liked better than the finished song; pretty much an immediate skip for me

Word.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2020, 06:52:36 PM: :tup :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2020, 01:16:02 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 02, 2020, 05:16:58 PM
Chinatown is way underrated.

Quoted for truth.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2020, 07:16:17 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 02, 2020, 05:16:58 PM
Chinatown is way underrated. Those two albums with Snowy White are great.

Played both in the last few days as my best albums of 80-84 is on in the car. Both excellent but as with most Lizzy, a couple of skipable tracks on each.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 05, 2020, 07:06:00 AM: I can confirm that the new Stryker is solid. Nothing jumped out and grabbed me, but an ok listen.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 10, 2020, 07:08:23 PM: New Lords of Black. https://youtu.be/4NMvC4IDh2E

Let the flaming begin. I don’t care what ya’ll think, anything with Romero is virtually and instant purchase for me. :P
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 10, 2020, 07:47:55 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 26, 2020, 11:40:43 AM
Have you guys heard my album?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5wKBv1BMOw

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 10, 2020, 07:58:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 10, 2020, 07:47:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 26, 2020, 11:40:43 AM
Have you guys heard my album?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5wKBv1BMOw

:metal

Obviously I only listen to 99.99999% 70's/80's/early 90's rock/metal......................but when there is a band called Jason.....I'm sure all of you will join me in saying :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal...................thanks Timster.
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Post by: TAC on September 10, 2020, 07:59:38 PM: Rooted in the Little Brazil section of Winnipeg! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 10, 2020, 08:04:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 10, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
Rooted in the Little Brazil section of Winnipeg! :lol

Thanks Tim.....and like you've mentioned before to me Patrick Laine and Mark Scheifele are the future of pro hockey and the men that will bring the Stanley Cup to Winnipeg. Plus Chris Jericho and Kenny Omega grew up a few minutes away from me. And like only Chad will confirm and care about...................The Winnipeg Blue Bombers won the fkn Grey Cup :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on September 10, 2020, 08:05:43 PM: Jason Listening Party Thread! :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 10, 2020, 08:07:01 PM: Winnipeg Jets and Winnipeg Blue Bombers! :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal........Chad can jump in with acknowledgement and resepect.
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Post by: TAC on September 10, 2020, 08:15:30 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 10, 2020, 07:08:23 PM
New Lords of Black. https://youtu.be/4NMvC4IDh2E

Let the flaming begin. I don’t care what ya’ll think, anything with Romero is virtually and instant purchase for me. :P

:flame:

Wow, that is awful.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 10, 2020, 08:32:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 10, 2020, 08:15:30 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 10, 2020, 07:08:23 PM
New Lords of Black. https://youtu.be/4NMvC4IDh2E

Let the flaming begin. I don’t care what ya’ll think, anything with Romero is virtually and instant purchase for me. :P

:flame:

Wow, that is awful.

Listened to that......no interest............doesn't compare to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers Grey Cup win.
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Post by: TAC on September 10, 2020, 08:35:36 PM: (https://globalnews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/cpt14342316.jpg?quality=85&strip=all)
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 10, 2020, 08:39:11 PM: hmmmm....impressive :metal and thank you
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Post by: Lowdz on September 11, 2020, 02:16:47 AM: (https://images.daznservices.com/di/library/GOAL/15/29/liverpool-premier-league-2019-20_1r738vph5fzoc13bjqdcrwz2ex.jpg?t=2037924915&quality=100)

Was it as good as my celebrations for this?

30 years I waited. Finally. I have to get a celebratory tattoo now as I pledged to 20 years ago.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 11, 2020, 02:18:21 AM: And yes, the Lords Of Black was... underwhelming.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 11, 2020, 04:17:05 AM: Nice Paul, the explosions and fireworks look awesome!
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 11, 2020, 04:57:20 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 11, 2020, 02:18:21 AM
And yes, the Lords Of Black was... underwhelming.

I don't typically put any stock in the singles that anyone releases anymore. JP's Terminal Velocity (song) was pretty underwhelming as well. Same as the singles that Primal Fear released, and MK FreeFall. All three of those are excellent albums however.

I'll reserve any judgment. Plus, I love Lords of Black, so take off, eh!
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Post by: Lowdz on September 11, 2020, 05:39:58 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 11, 2020, 04:57:20 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 11, 2020, 02:18:21 AM
And yes, the Lords Of Black was... underwhelming.

I don't typically put any stock in the singles that anyone releases anymore. JP's Terminal Velocity (song) was pretty underwhelming as well. Same as the singles that Primal Fear released, and MK FreeFall. All three of those are excellent albums however.

I'll reserve any judgment. Plus, I love Lords of Black, so take off, eh!

I've still not given the PF any time. I should rectify that but UFO/Schenker have monopolised my listening. Plus all the best albums from 80-84 in the car.
I'll try to get to it this afternoon.
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2020, 05:58:17 AM: Quote from: TAC on September 10, 2020, 07:47:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on August 26, 2020, 11:40:43 AM
Have you guys heard my album?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5wKBv1BMOw

:metal

Not bad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2020, 06:04:55 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 10, 2020, 07:08:23 PM
New Lords of Black. https://youtu.be/4NMvC4IDh2E

Let the flaming begin. I don’t care what ya’ll think, anything with Romero is virtually and instant purchase for me. :P

Meh. It was solid. Not really digging the chorus. I just never liked the guitarist and I don't like his tone.

The lead melody reminded me heavily of Revolution Renaissance's I Did It My Way.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 12:52:17 PM: I know Kade recently mentioned how much he likes Long Distance Runner from Maiden. For me, Somewhere in Time is my favorite album from Maiden and two of their most underrated tunes are Stranger in a Strange Land and Deja-Vu

Best album cover in Maidens discography too IMO :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2020, 02:26:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 12:52:17 PM
I know Kade recently mentioned how much he likes Long Distance Runner from Maiden. For me, Somewhere in Time is my favorite album from Maiden and two of their most underrated tunes are Stranger in a Strange Land and Deja-Vu

Best album cover in Maidens discography too IMO :metal

Nice pick with Deja Vu. That's a cool tune mate.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 02:30:21 PM: That chorus is awesome
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 05:55:04 PM: Also Stranger in a Strange Land should get more recognition in Maiden history too :metal

It’s played on Sirius fairly often
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Post by: TAC on September 12, 2020, 06:06:06 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 05:55:04 PM
Also Stranger in a Strange Land should get more recognition in Maiden history too :metal

It’s played on Sirius fairly often

Siriusly? :neverusethis:
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 06:14:30 PM: :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 06:30:07 PM: But Siriusly, Somewhere in Time rules!
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Post by: gazinwales on September 12, 2020, 07:37:18 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 11, 2020, 02:16:47 AM
(https://images.daznservices.com/di/library/GOAL/15/29/liverpool-premier-league-2019-20_1r738vph5fzoc13bjqdcrwz2ex.jpg?t=2037924915&quality=100)

Was it as good as my celebrations for this?

30 years I waited. Finally. I have to get a celebratory tattoo now as I pledged to 20 years ago.

Yes it has been a long wait, and the new season has started already, LFC were a little sluggish against LUFC, hopefully VVD won't make another silly error again this season.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 12, 2020, 07:38:36 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 12:52:17 PM
For me, Somewhere in Time is my favorite album from Maiden and two of their most underrated tunes are Stranger in a Strange Land

I am not a huge Maiden fanboy but there's my go to album and song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 07:51:06 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 12, 2020, 07:38:36 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 12:52:17 PM
For me, Somewhere in Time is my favorite album from Maiden and two of their most underrated tunes are Stranger in a Strange Land

I am not a huge Maiden fanboy but there's my go to album and song.

My go to Maiden is Number of the Beast through Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. That’s the vast majority of my Maiden listening. Somewhere in Time in the stand out for me
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 07:55:45 PM: And the moment I wrote that message I had the movie Bull Durham in the background and when I started watching Tim Robbins is wearing an Iron Maiden shirt :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on September 13, 2020, 10:00:11 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 12, 2020, 07:38:36 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 12:52:17 PM
For me, Somewhere in Time is my favorite album from Maiden and two of their most underrated tunes are Stranger in a Strange Land

I am not a huge Maiden fanboy but there's my go to album and song.

My go to Maiden is Number of the Beast through Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. That’s the vast majority of my Maiden listening. Somewhere in Time in the stand out for me

SiT was the first Maiden album that disappointed me. Played it the other day and enjoyed it more than I expected. A colleague talked me into it and glad he did. Final Frontier didn’t care as well.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 13, 2020, 11:47:23 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 12, 2020, 07:38:36 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 12, 2020, 12:52:17 PM
For me, Somewhere in Time is my favorite album from Maiden and two of their most underrated tunes are Stranger in a Strange Land

I am not a huge Maiden fanboy but there's my go to album and song.

i go to Maiden is Number of the Beast through Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. That’s the vast majority of my Maiden listening. Somewhere in Time in the stand out for me

Ditto (+ Killers). I’m good with the first 3 reunion albums, but 80s Maiden is where it’s at.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 15, 2020, 08:52:33 AM: https://youtu.be/cN_m-jz772k

New Reb Beech track from his forthcoming instrumental album. Nice enough. Going for a Satriani vibe. I'll be up for this album I think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 15, 2020, 10:11:25 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 15, 2020, 08:52:33 AM
https://youtu.be/cN_m-jz772k

New Reb Beech track from his forthcoming instrumental album. Nice enough. Going for a Satriani vibe. I'll be up for this album I think.

I liked that 👍🏻
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 07:35:18 PM: Hot off the press - advance song from new Teramaze. Not a fan of their compressed production but sounds promising :metal

https://smarturl.it/watch-you?fbclid=IwAR052Pq0ZPQXdca4OHPi8SwBLbiVNrqMDWTrcslqZR1-oZznibbfA7NwJyc
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2020, 08:42:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 07:35:18 PM
Hot off the press - advance song from new Teramaze. Not a fan of their compressed production but sounds promising :metal

https://smarturl.it/watch-you?fbclid=IwAR052Pq0ZPQXdca4OHPi8SwBLbiVNrqMDWTrcslqZR1-oZznibbfA7NwJyc

Didn't they just have an album? I didn't even check that one out yet.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 08:53:52 PM: Their last album wasn't too long ago (2019 and not a patch on Her Halo IMHO) and they have had the odd track here and there but this is from their next full album.

Dean shared the link on a chat this morning - apparently the song/video was all home made with the guys locked up in various parts of Melbourne , so they've done a pretty good job of it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2020, 09:32:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 08:53:52 PM
Their last album wasn't too long ago (2019 and not a patch on Her Halo IMHO) and they have had the odd track here and there but this is from their next full album.

Dean shared the link on a chat this morning - apparently the song/video was all home made with the guys locked up in various parts of Melbourne , so they've done a pretty good job of it.

Will check it out later. Crazy the album was last year.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 16, 2020, 03:48:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 15, 2020, 08:42:55 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 07:35:18 PM
Hot off the press - advance song from new Teramaze. Not a fan of their compressed production but sounds promising :metal

https://smarturl.it/watch-you?fbclid=IwAR052Pq0ZPQXdca4OHPi8SwBLbiVNrqMDWTrcslqZR1-oZznibbfA7NwJyc

Didn't they just have an album? I didn't even check that one out yet.

It was decent, but didn't hold a candle to Her Halo. I'd say it was also a tad below Esoteric Symbolism. Hard to compare it to the prior releases, as they had a different sound/style. I knew they recorded a single, and had a release coming. I'll check this out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2020, 05:43:55 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 15, 2020, 08:52:33 AM
https://youtu.be/cN_m-jz772k

New Reb Beech track from his forthcoming instrumental album. Nice enough. Going for a Satriani vibe. I'll be up for this album I think.

That was......weird. a lot of it just seemed a bit off. I have to listen to it again.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 18, 2020, 01:17:14 PM: DIRKSCHNEIDER & THE OLD GANG - Where The Angels Fly (2020) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmEt6FnFl54&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=AFMRecords)

I mean come on now, that's just so :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on September 18, 2020, 01:48:43 PM: Yeah saw it last night with 3/5 of the classic Accept line-up involved.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Zoom E on September 18, 2020, 02:33:24 PM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 18, 2020, 01:17:14 PM
DIRKSCHNEIDER & THE OLD GANG - Where The Angels Fly (2020) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmEt6FnFl54&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=AFMRecords)

I mean come on now, that's just so :metal

Nice :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 02:58:54 PM: That’s interesting when classic line ups seem to slowly test the waters. But I can’t see Wolf joining them but could easily be wrong
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 18, 2020, 03:17:17 PM: I think it's amazing that Stefan Kaufman became a guitarist. He sounds really good, and I know he was in UDO's band for a long time.

But I LOVED him as a drummer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on September 18, 2020, 05:39:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 18, 2020, 03:17:17 PM
I think it's amazing that Stefan Kaufman became a guitarist. He sounds really good, and I know he was in UDO's band for a long time.

But I LOVED him as a drummer.

He probably played guitar for many years, now if UDO could get Herman Frank in this line up would be amazing.
BTW I don't think there is a chance in hell of UDO working with Wolf ever again.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 06:29:18 PM: Maybe UDO can bring in our Wolf to replace Wolf and start up UDO'S Accept.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 18, 2020, 06:30:11 PM: I would Accept that!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 06:34:43 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2020, 07:07:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 06:29:18 PM
Maybe UDO can bring in our Wolf to replace Wolf and start up UDO'S Accept.

:metal What a dream come true that would be, seriously.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 07:09:02 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 18, 2020, 07:07:09 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 06:29:18 PM
Maybe UDO can bring in our Wolf to replace Wolf and start up UDO'S Accept.

:metal What a dream come true that would be, seriously.

:metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 07:10:21 PM: Wolf, would you have no problem learning everything from Accept or do you already know most of it?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2020, 07:20:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 07:10:21 PM
Wolf, would you have no problem learning everything from Accept or do you already know most of it?

Nah, Accept were never one I played much. I was mainly Maiden, Sabbath and Priest when it came to the older bands back when I was learning. Plus Satch, Yngwie etc.

If that opportunity was a possibility, I'd learn ever single Accept and UDO song front to back, no question.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 07:28:36 PM: Accept kicks ass especially Restless and Wild, Balls to the Wall and Metal Heart :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 18, 2020, 07:31:55 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
Accept kicks ass especially Restless and Wild, Balls to the Wall and Metal Heart :metal

...and Russian Roulette. That is a great 4 album run. 5 if you include Breaker.

It's funny, but I think once a month I'll do that run. Great albums. Such happy music. Metal Heart is on of my all time favorite albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 07:35:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 18, 2020, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
Accept kicks ass especially Restless and Wild, Balls to the Wall and Metal Heart :metal

...and Russian Roulette. That is a great 4 album run. 5 if you include Breaker.

It's funny, but I think once a month I'll do that run. Great albums. Such happy music. Metal Heart is on of my all time favorite albums.

Definitely. Breaker and RR are awesome, but both just slightly outside the box of the big three for me personally. But those are the five main Accept albums for me. Everything else is great, but those are the go to albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2020, 04:31:16 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 18, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
Accept kicks ass especially Restless and Wild, Balls to the Wall and Metal Heart :metal

Metal Heart is the winner here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 19, 2020, 08:12:10 AM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 18, 2020, 01:17:14 PM
DIRKSCHNEIDER & THE OLD GANG - Where The Angels Fly (2020) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmEt6FnFl54&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=AFMRecords)

I mean come on now, that's just so :metal

That was a really good song.

Never heard any Accept, except ( :biggrin:) Balls To The Wall and maybe another song I heard from Satellite Radio.

If this is how Accept albums sound. What album should I get.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 22, 2020, 02:32:21 PM: Another goodie but very diffrent: Joel Hoekstra/Dino Jelusick/Virgil Donati/Tony Franklin - Stormbringer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm-XyaNP4nc&ab_channel=DinoJelusickOfficial)

That's the most tame i've ever heard Virgil play in a song....until the solo part came of course. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 22, 2020, 03:00:32 PM: Saw that at the weekend. Loved it. There’s some talent there. Dino is the new Ronnie Romero! 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 03:27:11 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 22, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
Saw that at the weekend. Loved it. There’s some talent there. Dino is the new Ronnie Romero! 😀

He's miles better than Ronnie.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 22, 2020, 03:44:30 PM: Romero is this generation's Graham Bonnet. STFU already! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 04:26:58 PM: Up next after UFO, the Ronnie Romeo listening party for Tim.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 04:42:13 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 04:26:58 PM
Up next after UFO, the Ronnie Romeo listening party for Tim.

Wolf, impressive you didn't go for the soft ball Winger zinger.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 04:47:47 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 04:26:58 PM
Up next after UFO, the Ronnie Romeo listening party for Tim.

Wolf, impressive you didn't go for the soft ball Winger zinger.

Soften him up with Ronnie then a blindside Winger attack!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 04:49:07 PM: A Winger discography and listening party thread would really be classic
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 04:55:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 22, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
Saw that at the weekend. Loved it. There’s some talent there. Dino is the new Ronnie Romero! 😀

He's miles better than Ronnie.

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH AND TAKE THAT BACK!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 08:53:03 PM: I 100% agree with the Wolfster............Judas Be My Guide is such a kick ass tune :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 09:34:02 PM: But I also agree with the Chadster.........X Factor and Virtual X1 just doesnt seem to connect no matter how many listens.....for the vast majority, I'm sticking with NOTB-SSOASS.......I'm content with that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 10:24:17 PM: Wrong thread, Jay. But still, the right message. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 10:39:40 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 10:24:17 PM
Wrong thread, Jay. But still, the right message. :lol

I only 98% check out The Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread, I should always get a break :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 10:52:39 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 10:24:17 PM
Wrong thread, Jay. But still, the right message. :lol

He can write that shit in any thread he likes lol :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 10:53:47 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 04:55:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 22, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
Saw that at the weekend. Loved it. There’s some talent there. Dino is the new Ronnie Romero! 😀

He's miles better than Ronnie.

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH AND TAKE THAT BACK!!!!

Okay, he's kilometres better than Ronnie.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 10:54:48 PM: I read and analyze many threads but my opinion also comes down to the Official Hard Rock/Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 10:56:10 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 10:53:47 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 04:55:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 22, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
Saw that at the weekend. Loved it. There’s some talent there. Dino is the new Ronnie Romero! 😀

He's miles better than Ronnie.

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH AND TAKE THAT BACK!!!!

Okay, he's kilometres better than Ronnie.

Is that a Canadian zinger?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2020, 05:07:50 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 10:53:47 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 04:55:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 22, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
Saw that at the weekend. Loved it. There’s some talent there. Dino is the new Ronnie Romero! 😀

He's miles better than Ronnie.

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH AND TAKE THAT BACK!!!!

Okay, he's kilometres better than Ronnie.

Well played, ya bogan. Well played
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2020, 05:21:22 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 23, 2020, 05:07:50 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 10:53:47 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 22, 2020, 04:55:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on September 22, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 22, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
Saw that at the weekend. Loved it. There’s some talent there. Dino is the new Ronnie Romero! 😀

He's miles better than Ronnie.

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH AND TAKE THAT BACK!!!!

Okay, he's kilometres better than Ronnie.

Well played, ya bogan. Well played

You are a bogan for knowing the word bogan. Just sayin' ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 23, 2020, 05:27:07 AM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2020, 08:29:31 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on September 22, 2020, 09:34:02 PM
But I also agree with the Chadster.........X Factor and Virtual X1 just doesnt seem to connect no matter how many listens.....for the vast majority, I'm sticking with NOTB-SSOASS.......I'm content with that.

I'm with ya brother, if you throw in the all conquering Killers too. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2020, 11:12:17 AM: https://youtu.be/Kh4p112gUp4

Not sure whether it’s awesome or an abomination 😀😀😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 26, 2020, 12:42:55 PM: I think that is very cool
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 28, 2020, 09:42:18 AM: Earlier I was listening to Van Han best of volume 1 (I doubt volume 2 is ever coming out lol). But gotta say, “Can’t Get This Stuff No More” and “Me Wise Magic” are still pretty kick ass tunes. I can’t fathom how Eddie thought they would have success after teasing a reunion with Dave, releasing these two songs, and then going with Gary Cherone. It was doomed for failure basically immediately. Gary is a great singer but I thought for the most part VH3 was dreadful.

Only a casual fan of the Sammy material but those first six Van Halen albums are at the very top of my all time favorite music :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 29, 2020, 11:08:01 AM: Our new album, "The Ghost Xperiment - Illumination" will be released on December 4, 2020

(https://scontent.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/120382786_4457978707577254_1008401422403112457_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=1hskLeLBoO8AX9izyBd&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz2-2.fna&tp=6&oh=83ba5b5d19fd7478abc657b90eb62b79&oe=5F973282)

Hells yeah.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on September 29, 2020, 11:11:02 AM: New song was pretty decent too, hopefully this'll be a bit better than their latest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 29, 2020, 01:59:46 PM: Quote from: Evermind on September 29, 2020, 11:11:02 AM
New song was pretty decent too, hopefully this'll be a bit better than their latest.

New song was typical VP, so yeah, was great.

https://youtu.be/UKAeRyNXErI
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2020, 03:41:28 PM: Quote from: Evermind on September 29, 2020, 11:11:02 AM
New song was pretty decent too, hopefully this'll be a bit better than their latest.

I wasn't sold on it initially but ended up getting into it. It's very good even if it is VP by numbers.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 29, 2020, 03:42:51 PM: The song was actually pretty decent, but I still hate that guy's voice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2020, 05:39:47 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 29, 2020, 01:59:46 PM
Quote from: Evermind on September 29, 2020, 11:11:02 AM
New song was pretty decent too, hopefully this'll be a bit better than their latest.

New song was typical VP, so yeah, was great.

https://youtu.be/UKAeRyNXErI

They really seem to be heavily stuck in the same formula.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 30, 2020, 05:51:54 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 30, 2020, 05:39:47 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 29, 2020, 01:59:46 PM
Quote from: Evermind on September 29, 2020, 11:11:02 AM
New song was pretty decent too, hopefully this'll be a bit better than their latest.

New song was typical VP, so yeah, was great.

https://youtu.be/UKAeRyNXErI

They really seem to be heavily stuck in the same formula.

Indeed. Just like most acts that are 10ish albums deep in their career at this point. Ayreon, Primal Fear, Magnus Karlsson <anything>, Evergrey, Firewind, Pretty Maids, HEAT, all come to mind. Thankfully, it's a really enjoyable formula.

Chocolate cake is still chocolate cake :metal And if I want a piece of cake, I fucking eat it!!! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on September 30, 2020, 12:44:59 PM: New Persuader.

https://youtu.be/mrRJ-lp7CUA

I was listening to it, liking the riff, seemed to take forever to get to the chorus, then it happened and I thought itwas poor - then the real chorus happened and all was forgiven.

The singer really couldn’t sound any more like Hansi Kursch.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 30, 2020, 01:36:57 PM: Anyone (Tim) sample The Waymaker album (couple months back, they released their cover of Soldiers Under Command).

Just an 8-track shorty, but damn it's nice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2020, 03:09:07 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 30, 2020, 05:51:54 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 30, 2020, 05:39:47 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 29, 2020, 01:59:46 PM
Quote from: Evermind on September 29, 2020, 11:11:02 AM
New song was pretty decent too, hopefully this'll be a bit better than their latest.

New song was typical VP, so yeah, was great.

https://youtu.be/UKAeRyNXErI

They really seem to be heavily stuck in the same formula.

Indeed. Just like most acts that are 10ish albums deep in their career at this point. Ayreon, Primal Fear, Magnus Karlsson <anything>, Evergrey, Firewind, Pretty Maids, HEAT, all come to mind. Thankfully, it's a really enjoyable formula.

Chocolate cake is still chocolate cake :metal And if I want a piece of cake, I fucking eat it!!! :lol

Yeah I know but seems VP for me are becoming more same due to this. It was hard for me to get into the last album because of this, but I'm sure I'll warm to it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 30, 2020, 04:35:53 PM: Vanilla Plas
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2020, 05:04:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2020, 04:35:53 PM
Vanilla Plas

Their old stuff each had such a unique flavour, feel and sound but they have just gotten stuck in a rut now IMO. It's a high quality rut mind you but just no personality between each album anymore. I know that can be said about a lot of bands like Chad mentioned. Just a little disappointing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 01, 2020, 08:31:20 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 30, 2020, 01:36:57 PM
Anyone (Tim) sample The Waymaker album (couple months back, they released their cover of Soldiers Under Command).

Just an 8-track shorty, but damn it's nice.

Chad, thank you for reminding me about that, it totally slipped my mind. I've been immersed in the UFO thread.

Listening now. Yes that's the dude from Golden Resurrection on vocals. I just Saved it on Spotify.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 02, 2020, 05:53:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 01, 2020, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 30, 2020, 01:36:57 PM
Anyone (Tim) sample The Waymaker album (couple months back, they released their cover of Soldiers Under Command).

Just an 8-track shorty, but damn it's nice.

Chad, thank you for reminding me about that, it totally slipped my mind. I've been immersed in the UFO thread.

Listening now. Yes that's the dude from Golden Resurrection on vocals. I just Saved it on Spotify.

Speaking of new albums from a band with a dude you love ... Lowdz... did you check out the new Brother Firetribe? Lead singer is from Leverage (though, since they've already got a handful of releases, you probably know them already).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 02, 2020, 05:59:11 AM: Wow! The new Accept song is shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 02, 2020, 06:10:29 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 02, 2020, 05:53:41 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 01, 2020, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 30, 2020, 01:36:57 PM
Anyone (Tim) sample The Waymaker album (couple months back, they released their cover of Soldiers Under Command).

Just an 8-track shorty, but damn it's nice.

Chad, thank you for reminding me about that, it totally slipped my mind. I've been immersed in the UFO thread.

Listening now. Yes that's the dude from Golden Resurrection on vocals. I just Saved it on Spotify.

Speaking of new albums from a band with a dude you love ... Lowdz... did you check out the new Brother Firetribe? Lead singer is from Leverage (though, since they've already got a handful of releases, you probably know them already).

I gave it a listen the other day but it didn't particularly stand out. I love the first two I did prefer Leverage over Brother Firetribe. The Tides album is awesome. i used it in a roulette and it did well. Was it your?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 02, 2020, 07:51:34 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 02, 2020, 06:10:29 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 02, 2020, 05:53:41 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 01, 2020, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 30, 2020, 01:36:57 PM
Anyone (Tim) sample The Waymaker album (couple months back, they released their cover of Soldiers Under Command).

Just an 8-track shorty, but damn it's nice.

Chad, thank you for reminding me about that, it totally slipped my mind. I've been immersed in the UFO thread.

Listening now. Yes that's the dude from Golden Resurrection on vocals. I just Saved it on Spotify.

Speaking of new albums from a band with a dude you love ... Lowdz... did you check out the new Brother Firetribe? Lead singer is from Leverage (though, since they've already got a handful of releases, you probably know them already).

I gave it a listen the other day but it didn't particularly stand out. I love the first two I did prefer Leverage over Brother Firetribe. The Tides album is awesome. i used it in a roulette and it did well. Was it your?

Not in mine. But I'll take note of giving their back catalogue a spin
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Post by: Lowdz on October 02, 2020, 09:25:38 AM: I loved that Brother Firetribe called their first album False Metal. The ManOwaR fan in me loved that. :lol
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Post by: gazinwales on October 02, 2020, 04:32:00 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 02, 2020, 05:53:41 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 01, 2020, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 30, 2020, 01:36:57 PM
Anyone (Tim) sample The Waymaker album (couple months back, they released their cover of Soldiers Under Command).

Just an 8-track shorty, but damn it's nice.

Chad, thank you for reminding me about that, it totally slipped my mind. I've been immersed in the UFO thread.

Listening now. Yes that's the dude from Golden Resurrection on vocals. I just Saved it on Spotify.

Speaking of new albums from a band with a dude you love ... Lowdz... did you check out the new Brother Firetribe? Lead singer is from Leverage (though, since they've already got a handful of releases, you probably know them already).

Pekka actually is not in Leverage anymore, their last album had a different singer.
BFT great band, the only MR band that is vaguely interesting to me, new album is a little different to the previous 4, has a very high tech west coast sound to it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 02, 2020, 06:19:50 PM: I’m digging the short snippet of the new AC/DC song. Wolf you mentioned you didn’t think much of the new Accept. I listened to most of it, it’s seems like a bit of a different direction. Not sure yet on that one
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Post by: wolfking on October 02, 2020, 06:28:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 02, 2020, 06:19:50 PM
I’m digging the short snippet of the new AC/DC song. Wolf you mentioned you didn’t think much of the new Accept. I listened to most of it, it’s seems like a bit of a different direction. Not sure yet on that one

I'll reserve judgement until the full album, but damn I was disappointed.
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Post by: TAC on October 02, 2020, 06:58:33 PM: No fucking way.

Just listened to The Undertaker. That is a great song. They started to sound a bit samey honestly.

I love the Princess Of The Dawn style feel to it. Real old school feel to it.

The video is wild.
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2020, 12:07:12 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 02, 2020, 06:58:33 PM
No fucking way.

Just listened to The Undertaker. That is a great song. They started to sound a bit samey honestly.

I love the Princess Of The Dawn style feel to it. Real old school feel to it.

The video is wild.

I'll make sure I give it another shot.
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Post by: gazinwales on October 03, 2020, 12:27:55 AM: I thought it was absolute garbage and turned it off after the first chorus...
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2020, 01:19:23 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on October 03, 2020, 12:27:55 AM
I thought it was absolute garbage and turned it off after the first chorus...

Thanks. Thought I might have been going mad.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 03, 2020, 02:41:13 AM: The vocals ruined it for me. I enjoyed the riffing, and the production sounds great.
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2020, 03:12:24 AM: What I took notice with the lyrics too were just awful.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 03, 2020, 05:57:31 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 03, 2020, 03:12:24 AM
What I took notice with the lyrics too were just awful.

And yet (cuz I literally just read this page in the UFO thread) ...

Quote from: wolfking on September 24, 2020, 04:15:25 PM
Lyrics were never something I paid much attention to with any music I've ever listened to. It just doesn't carry much weight for me.

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F1566.gif&hash=a4562fe3549104689b34c466b4754a1113566273)
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2020, 06:00:29 AM: First thing I thought of. :lol

I mean there was a point in the second verse I think (listened to it once), where they were a bit predictable.

The lyrics didn't bother me at all.
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2020, 06:46:35 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 03, 2020, 05:57:31 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 03, 2020, 03:12:24 AM
What I took notice with the lyrics too were just awful.

And yet (cuz I literally just read this page in the UFO thread) ...

Quote from: wolfking on September 24, 2020, 04:15:25 PM
Lyrics were never something I paid much attention to with any music I've ever listened to. It just doesn't carry much weight for me.

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F1566.gif&hash=a4562fe3549104689b34c466b4754a1113566273)

So that's saying something.
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Post by: Bolsters on October 03, 2020, 06:51:20 AM: That happens to me. I don't often pay much attention to lyrics in general, but they definitely stand out as a negative when they are particularly bad.
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2020, 02:14:09 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on October 03, 2020, 06:51:20 AM
That happens to me. I don't often pay much attention to lyrics in general, but they definitely stand out as a negative when they are particularly bad.

Indeed.
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2020, 08:33:12 PM: I am only posting this video because I was laughing so hard at the comments, I was crying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz3QmqP9DPw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2020, 06:11:05 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 03, 2020, 08:33:12 PM
I am only posting this video because I was laughing so hard at the comments, I was crying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz3QmqP9DPw

I wonder if the drummer got fired missing his cue at 2:18.

I watched the whole thing. I just love watching this dude play. So many jealous, bitter people commenting that just wish they could play a tenth as good as him.

He's gone a bit weird the last few years but damn he's one of my fav guitarists. Wish he respected musicians around him and still played with high calibre musicians. I don't get why people hate on him for his attitude. I mean he loves himself and is a rude prick. Who gives a shit, that's his perogative. One guy in the comments says that Yngwie told him to fuck off lol. I'd probably tell him to fuck off too. :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2020, 02:06:17 PM: I know there is a post for this but fuck, EVH is gone.

Changed music as we know it.

So sad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 06, 2020, 02:11:03 PM: I’ve mentioned before how much I love those first six Van Halen albums. At the very top of my all time favorite music ever and really the definition of hard rock.

😢
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2020, 03:27:34 PM: Never a big influence on me but he changed the game. Only 65 too.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2020, 04:13:31 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 06, 2020, 03:27:34 PM
Never a big influence on me but he changed the game. Only 65 too.

He will have been, indirectly, through the players you love.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2020, 04:16:23 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 06, 2020, 04:13:31 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 06, 2020, 03:27:34 PM
Never a big influence on me but he changed the game. Only 65 too.

He will have been, indirectly, through the players you love.

Oh yeah mate, I know that all too well. I hear so much of him in a lot of a lot of my fav players, just thinking now. His influence is unmatched.
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Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2020, 05:40:47 AM: Alright, the Accept was a little better on the second listen. I know I said I don't pay attention to lyrics, but come on, that first verse was written by a 5 year old. I hear the Princess of the Dawn flavour too. I'll wait for the album. I think this song will be better and more acceptable in the context of the album.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2020, 06:29:48 AM: Had to save this from Page 2. Found on Borealis' FB page today

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Recording Update: What a year its been 😅. We started tracking in late February right before the pandemic and had to put things on pause for a while.

We got back at it in May and have slowly been making progress.

We're about 3/4 of the way through tracking all instruments (overdubs and guitar solos are being recorded now) and then we're on to tracking vocals.

Then its mixing and mastering time.

:metal

Also, new Lords of Black. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzywPFn7dK0

Yeah yeah... let the Ronnie bashing begin. Nothing terribly original from LoB, but I'm a fanboi, so yeah.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2020, 08:08:56 AM: I saw this posted yesterday and I thought of you.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2020, 08:39:33 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2020, 08:08:56 AM
I saw this posted yesterday and I thought of you.

Of course you did. :zydar:
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Post by: Lowdz on October 16, 2020, 09:18:41 AM: It's ok. It really needs a chorus though.
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2020, 02:15:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2020, 08:08:56 AM
I saw this posted yesterday and I thought of you.

Me too. I didn't click on it though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2020, 02:19:31 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2020, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2020, 08:08:56 AM
I saw this posted yesterday and I thought of you.

Me too. I didn't click on it though.

Me neither. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2020, 05:12:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2020, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 16, 2020, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2020, 08:08:56 AM
I saw this posted yesterday and I thought of you.

Me too. I didn't click on it though.

Me neither. :lol

:lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 16, 2020, 06:15:44 PM: :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2020, 07:41:47 PM: (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F255.gif&hash=bb20c920ee138793dbc18086abd7325ab215885a)
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Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2020, 07:49:25 PM: That's a world class gif.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 18, 2020, 05:21:10 PM: Well fuck.

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Ronnie Atkins Official FB

As promised a week ago here’s a little update on my current health situation.

I’m not gonna go into details, but just state that unfortunately I’m still battling cancer!! After some pain issues and following a scan just before Easter this year I was told that the cancer had spread and I was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, which in principle means incurable!

Now there were two paths I could go by! I could sit down in a corner and feel pity for myself (which I guess I did for a while) or I could try to carry on living and do what I do best and I chose the latter.

So with great back up from my family and true friends I decided to keep on writing music and lyrics plus the fact that I had a lot of ideas/songs that I wanted to get out of my system. So that’s what I’ve been doing on/off for the last couple of months.

That eventually means that some new music is coming from me in the immediate future, but more details on that later.

All that said, I must state that I feel good these days and have done for a while. I still get treatments, mainly immune therapy. I have some permanent pain issues and other sequelaes that I have to deal with! And mentally, I have my good days and my bad days, so be it !

But I feel that I’m in good hands with the doctors and staff who’s treating me, so everything considered I’m in good spirits!

It is what it is and I can’t change that whatsoever, so I simply aim to get the best out of life. 😊

Finally another huuuuge thank to all of you out there who’s been rooting for me and cheering me up through this process ! Means a lot to me 🙏

Love ❤️
Ronnie
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 18, 2020, 05:24:47 PM: Sad news
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Post by: TAC on October 18, 2020, 06:32:05 PM: That totally blows.
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Post by: wolfking on October 18, 2020, 08:29:50 PM: Just awful. Fuck cancer.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2020, 11:38:32 AM: And to offset that with some good news ...

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VOODOO CIRCLE: Vocalist David Readman and drummer Markus Kullmann re-join the circle / New album „Locked & Loaded“ to be released in January!

Fans of classic hard rock will be delighted to hear that VOODOO CIRCLE, the band lead by guitar wizard Alex Beyrodt, is rejoined by vocalist David Readman and drummer Markus Kullmann. Beside Alex and bassist/songwriter Mat Sinner (who is a constant in the band since day one), David and Markus returning to Voodoo Circle now sees the original line-up back together again!
The group has already finished work on the successor to 2018’s „Raised On Rock“. The new album, titled „Locked & Loaded“, will be released on January 15th. Once again, Voodoo Circle were able to secure the services of Jacob Hansen for mix and mastering. „Devil With An Angel Smile“, the first single off „Locked & Loaded“, is expected to arrive on October 30th.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 19, 2020, 11:43:17 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 19, 2020, 11:38:32 AM
And to offset that with some good news ...

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VOODOO CIRCLE: Vocalist David Readman and drummer Markus Kullmann re-join the circle / New album „Locked & Loaded“ to be released in January!

Fans of classic hard rock will be delighted to hear that VOODOO CIRCLE, the band lead by guitar wizard Alex Beyrodt, is rejoined by vocalist David Readman and drummer Markus Kullmann. Beside Alex and bassist/songwriter Mat Sinner (who is a constant in the band since day one), David and Markus returning to Voodoo Circle now sees the original line-up back together again!
The group has already finished work on the successor to 2018’s „Raised On Rock“. The new album, titled „Locked & Loaded“, will be released on January 15th. Once again, Voodoo Circle were able to secure the services of Jacob Hansen for mix and mastering. „Devil With An Angel Smile“, the first single off „Locked & Loaded“, is expected to arrive on October 30th.

Yay. Whitesnake are back baby 🤘
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Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2020, 02:15:53 PM: I really wish Alex would focus more on Silent Force personally.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2020, 02:39:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 19, 2020, 02:15:53 PM
I really wish Alex would focus more on Silent Force personally.

A reunion with DC would be pretty cool
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Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2020, 02:45:42 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 19, 2020, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 19, 2020, 02:15:53 PM
I really wish Alex would focus more on Silent Force personally.

A reunion with DC would be pretty cool

I liked the last fella but this would be sweet. Might get some inspiration back into his songwriting and guitar playing.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2020, 04:11:17 PM: He did a very good job, but DC..... :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2020, 05:07:52 PM: Wolf......how awesome is “Wild Child” by W.A.S.P.........seriously an outstanding song :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 19, 2020, 05:09:44 PM: It's a great tune.
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Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2020, 06:00:45 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 19, 2020, 05:07:52 PM
Wolf......how awesome is “Wild Child” by W.A.S.P.........seriously an outstanding song :metal

Fucking classic tune. So good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2020, 06:23:09 PM: :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 19, 2020, 06:26:32 PM: (https://media1.tenor.com/images/892c46efeaa9510984fa3ffc82a6ad4e/tenor.gif?itemid=17106938)
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2020, 06:33:19 PM: :rollin Wild fnk Child
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 12:09:34 PM: Saving this thread from Page 2, with some decent enough news.

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ROYAL HUNT will release their new studio album – “Dystopia” – on December 9th via King Records (Japan/SE Asia) and on December 18th via NorthPoint Productions (Europe/N & S America). A concept album offering a considerable expansion of the band´s trademark sound and featuring performances by guest vocalists: Mats Leven (Candlemass, TSO, Skyblood), Mark Boals (Y.J. Malmsteen, Ring of Fire), Henrik Brockmann (Royal Hunt, Evil Masquerade, N´Tribe), Kenny Lubcke (Narita, Zoser Mez) and Alexandra Andersen (Royal Hunt, JSP).

“Dystopia” will be released in following formats: regular CD (jewel case), various Deluxe editions / bundles and a gatefold, heavy vinyl LP. Pre-ordering campaign has started.

ROYAL HUNT keep intriguing fans with their adventurous endeavors and the band´s 15th studio album is no exception: a monumental concept opus featuring symphonic, progressive yet hard hitting compositions full of impeccable performances, wrapped tightly into immediately accessible format and a lush, contemporary production.

The addition of some extraordinary guest singers and their outstanding performances combined with vastly extended orchestrations creates a truly conceptual, cinematic feel throughout each and every track.

Tracklist

INCEPTION ℉451
BURN
THE ART OF DYING
I USED TO WALK ALONE
THE EYE OF OBLIVION
HOUND OF THE DAMNED
THE MISSING PAGE (Intermission I)
BLACK BUTTERFLIES
SNAKE EYES
MIDWAY (Intermission II)

(https://scontent.fybz2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122685684_10157185590776780_8848956078763591196_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=v6MsqZMDR2UAX9IotqR&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz2-1.fna&oh=1aa1f982e149a9b647a92d48efa493c4&oe=5FBCDF8C)

I very much enjoyed the last couple of RH releases. I'll give this a go when it comes out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2020, 02:10:13 PM: Chad is always on high alert saving this thread from the awful page 2 :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2020, 04:59:29 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 12:09:34 PM
Saving this thread from Page 2, with some decent enough news.

:lol

More like Thread welfare.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 05:08:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2020, 04:59:29 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 12:09:34 PM
Saving this thread from Page 2, with some decent enough news.

:lol

More like Thread welfare.

This ain’t the grunts and growls thread. Pipe it, you ogre lover.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2020, 05:10:11 PM: I saw your post at work today. I hadn't even seen what you had posted about, but as soon as I read "decent enough news" I started laughing.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 05:50:33 PM: Wasn't the last Royal Hunt absolute shit? Don't remember a think about it, except that it might have been just that.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2020, 06:53:24 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 05:50:33 PM
Wasn't the last Royal Hunt absolute shit? Don't remember a think about it, except that it might have been just that.

:lol

What’s all the guest singers? Is DC not with them anymore, wiki says he is
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 07:07:20 PM: ROYAL HUNT keep intriguing fans with their adventurous endeavors and the band´s 15th studio album is no exception: a monumental concept opus featuring symphonic, progressive yet hard hitting compositions full of impeccable performances, wrapped tightly into immediately accessible format and a lush, contemporary production.

The addition of some extraordinary guest singers and their outstanding performances combined with vastly extended orchestrations creates a truly conceptual, cinematic feel throughout each and every track.

These sorts of statements just piss me off and make me want to hate something.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 07:08:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2020, 04:59:29 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 12:09:34 PM
Saving this thread from Page 2, with some decent enough news.

:lol

More like Thread welfare.

Seems like my Frontiers melodic thread then has lost its house and the wife and kids have taken off. :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:12:00 PM: :lol

Seems The Cool Thread has joint custody!
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 07:24:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:12:00 PM
:lol

Seems The Cool Thread has joint custody!

Frontiers threads wife has been sleeping with Hard Rock thread for a while now. She liked the classy, well presented yet still quite manly nature early on but over the years he's been disappointing in bed and can't get it up anymore. She moved onto a more manly man.

Hard Rock thread now hoping the death metal or melodic death metal threads don't get noticed too much or else he could be trouble. She's loving the testosterone and may want to take it up a notch again! Hard Rock thread needs to keep delivering. Not sure Royal Hunt is going to do it though.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:38:21 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 07:24:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:12:00 PM
:lol

Seems The Cool Thread has joint custody!

Frontiers threads wife has been sleeping with Hard Rock thread for a while now. She liked the classy, well presented yet still quite manly nature early on but over the years he's been disappointing in bed and can't get it up anymore. She moved onto a more manly man.

Hard Rock thread now hoping the death metal or melodic death metal threads don't get noticed too much or else he could be trouble. She's loving the testosterone and may want to take it up a notch again! Hard Rock thread needs to keep delivering. Not sure Royal Hunt is going to do it though.

Viagra time! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4bAwDmT7ME)
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 07:43:32 PM: I ain't clicking that at work. :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:45:06 PM: It's safe! Armored Saint!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2020, 07:46:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 07:24:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:12:00 PM
:lol

Seems The Cool Thread has joint custody!

Frontiers threads wife has been sleeping with Hard Rock thread for a while now. She liked the classy, well presented yet still quite manly nature early on but over the years he's been disappointing in bed and can't get it up anymore. She moved onto a more manly man.

Hard Rock thread now hoping the death metal or melodic death metal threads don't get noticed too much or else he could be trouble. She's loving the testosterone and may want to take it up a notch again! Hard Rock thread needs to keep delivering. Not sure Royal Hunt is going to do it though.

Way better statement than from Royal Hunt lol
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:48:33 PM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:50:31 PM: The new Armored Saint is really good.
John Bush sounds amazing!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2020, 07:56:16 PM: Where would you rank it in their discography?
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 08:01:55 PM: One of the past couple of RH albums was good. Devils Dozen maybe. It wasn’t quite purchase worthy, but I’ll give this a spin when it drops.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2020, 08:03:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 26, 2020, 07:56:16 PM
Where would you rank it in their discography?

Symbol Of Salvation
Raising Fear
Win Hands Down
Delirious Nomad
March Of The Saint
Punching The Sky
La Raza
Revelations
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 08:54:03 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 26, 2020, 07:46:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 07:24:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:12:00 PM
:lol

Seems The Cool Thread has joint custody!

Frontiers threads wife has been sleeping with Hard Rock thread for a while now. She liked the classy, well presented yet still quite manly nature early on but over the years he's been disappointing in bed and can't get it up anymore. She moved onto a more manly man.

Hard Rock thread now hoping the death metal or melodic death metal threads don't get noticed too much or else he could be trouble. She's loving the testosterone and may want to take it up a notch again! Hard Rock thread needs to keep delivering. Not sure Royal Hunt is going to do it though.

:lol :metal
Way better statement than from Royal Hunt lol
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2020, 08:57:29 PM: I'll try and give this AS a bit of a spin at some point. Need something to crack them open for me.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 27, 2020, 02:03:57 AM: I haven’t really loved a Royal Hunt album since DC Cooper came back. I just don’t love his voice. I much preferred John West. I think the Fear album made my top 50.

Last few albums have been ok, nothing outstanding.

I gave a couple of songs of the Armored Saint a go at the weekend. WSnt wowed, but I’ve never been a big fan.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 05:24:49 AM: I didn't mind Mark Boals in RH actually. I thought Paradox 2 was solid.
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2020, 06:04:55 AM: I have never listened to a Royal Hunt album.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 08:34:09 AM: I can't seem to find any evidence that I listened/ranked their 2018 release, Cast in Stone. I did enjoy Devils Dozen - but that was 5 years ago. Wow, didn't know it was that old.

Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2020, 06:04:55 AM
I have never listened to a Royal Hunt album.

Don't think it would be your cup of tea.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 27, 2020, 10:30:05 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2020, 06:04:55 AM
I have never listened to a Royal Hunt album.

Try Fear. It's an excellent album. RH have a style and stick to it but that's their best for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 11:31:20 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2020, 10:30:05 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2020, 06:04:55 AM
I have never listened to a Royal Hunt album.

Try Fear. It's an excellent album. RH have a style and stick to it but that's their best for me.

Oh, he's afraid alright.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 27, 2020, 11:33:16 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 11:31:20 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2020, 10:30:05 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2020, 06:04:55 AM
I have never listened to a Royal Hunt album.

Try Fear. It's an excellent album. RH have a style and stick to it but that's their best for me.

Oh, he's afraid alright.

Royally.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 03:41:40 PM: The only material I think I heard from Royal Hunt was from Paradox. I think from what I remember, that's their best known album? I remember reading that DC Cooper and Ralf Sheepers were two of the finalists to replace Rob Halford in the mid 90s. I'm not sure if they actually auditioned in front of Priest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:01:28 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 03:41:40 PM
The only material I think I heard from Royal Hunt was from Paradox. I think from what I remember, that's their best known album? I remember reading that DC Cooper and Ralf Sheepers were two of the finalists to replace Rob Halford in the mid 90s. I'm not sure if they actually auditioned in front of Priest.

Pretty sure Ralf did. I thought it was only Ralf and Tim that auditioned? I could be way off.

And yeah, Paradox is their most popular and possibly best album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:04:55 PM: From what I remember, DC and Ralf were the top two until they saw Rippers tape.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:15:51 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:04:55 PM
From what I remember, DC and Ralf were the top two until they saw Rippers tape.

I loved Tim but Ralf would have been so good in Priest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:19:27 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:04:55 PM
From what I remember, DC and Ralf were the top two until they saw Rippers tape.

I loved Tim but Ralf would have been so good in Priest.

Fo sho.

But then who for Primal Fear?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:22:10 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:04:55 PM
From what I remember, DC and Ralf were the top two until they saw Rippers tape.

I loved Tim but Ralf would have been so good in Priest.

Fo sho.

But then who for Primal Fear?

They just would have started a few years later after Ralf got the boot. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:25:10 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:04:55 PM
From what I remember, DC and Ralf were the top two until they saw Rippers tape.

I loved Tim but Ralf would have been so good in Priest.

Fo sho.

But then who for Primal Fear?

They just would have started a few years later after Ralf got the boot. :lol

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:27:31 PM: When you are a replacement singer for a big band, every morning you wake up and don't have a message saying you are fired, thats a win lol. I'm sure Ripper and Blaze expected it every day.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:37:08 PM: Hagar probably didn’t. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:42:49 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:37:08 PM
Hagar probably didn’t. :lol

Absolutely not lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 27, 2020, 04:45:43 PM: Brian Johnson either!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:52:58 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 06:28:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2020, 04:45:43 PM
Brian Johnson either!

Lmao. :clap:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on October 27, 2020, 07:12:43 PM: We certainly know Tarja didn't see it coming as the original singer. I get the sentiment for the replacement, but damn, the business is tough internally with bands at times.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 07:32:15 PM: I think Damian Wilson's shafting for the last album is one of the most brutal I can remember. I know he was in and out over time, but damn he got fucked over there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:09:39 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 07:32:15 PM
I think Damian Wilson's shafting for the last album is one of the most brutal I can remember. I know he was in and out over time, but damn he got fucked over there.

I don't know what this means :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:16:40 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 07:32:15 PM
I think Damian Wilson's shafting for the last album is one of the most brutal I can remember. I know he was in and out over time, but damn he got fucked over there.

I don't know what this means :metal

https://www.loudersound.com/news/damian-wilson-threshold-departure-not-a-mutual-decision

Out of the blue they just axed him. The band recorded the album with him but didn't like it and brought in an old vocalist to take his place and re-recorded the album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 27, 2020, 09:18:51 PM: I didn't realize Jon Schaffer was in Threshold.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:20:16 PM: Sorry Kadester, that link has nothing to do with 70s/80s/early 90s.........couldnt care less :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 09:29:34 PM: Actually, it does. Threshold started in the early 90s .... ‘93 to be exact. :P

And yeah, Wilson got hooped here. Though, in the end... Legends is a great sounding album with Glynn.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:34:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 27, 2020, 09:18:51 PM
I didn't realize Jon Schaffer was in Threshold.

:lol Pretty sure Yngwie Malmsteen is the guitarist too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:35:40 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 09:29:34 PM
Actually, it does. Threshold started in the early 90s .... ‘93 to be exact. :P

And yeah, Wilson got hooped here. Though, in the end... Legends is a great sounding album with Glynn.

Yeah, I couldn't care less on the decision cause it is a great album, but still would have liked to hear it with Damian. pretty cold decision in the end but business is business.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:37:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:20:16 PM
Sorry Kadester, that link has nothing to do with 70s/80s/early 90s.........couldnt care less :metal

lol. I was just testing you.......and you passed!

You wouldn't like them anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:39:12 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:20:16 PM
Sorry Kadester, that link has nothing to do with 70s/80s/early 90s.........couldnt care less :metal

lol. I was just testing you.......and you passed!

You wouldn't like them anyway.

I'm not good at this game..........how about that Dio, Rush, AC/DC, Priest, Van Halen or Maiden?
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:44:47 PM: Speaking of Priest and Schaffer, Owens getting axed in Priest and then in IE would have been fucking depressing. Considering Owens was always the voice Schaffer heard in his head when writing for IE only to be ditched again for Matt who lasted for one crappy album. Then Stu comes in and is there to stay. How fucking rough would that have been for him.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:47:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:44:47 PM
Speaking of Priest and Schaffer, Owens getting axed in Priest and then in IE would have been fucking depressing. Considering Owens was always the voice Schaffer heard in his head when writing for IE only to be ditched again for Matt who lasted for one crappy album. Then Stu comes in and is there to stay. How fucking rough would that have been for him.

give me a break.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:51:44 PM: Tim got the shaft from IE......voice you heard in your head..lol.....Tim was a great singer, did probably the best job anyone could have done in Priest (way better than Ralf or DC), but was in over his head, no question, ........that Barlow album was weak, you are right Wolf.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:53:34 PM: 98 Live Meltdown is truly the best anyone could have done vocally in Priest besides Halford no question.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 10:39:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:47:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:44:47 PM
Speaking of Priest and Schaffer, Owens getting axed in Priest and then in IE would have been fucking depressing. Considering Owens was always the voice Schaffer heard in his head when writing for IE only to be ditched again for Matt who lasted for one crappy album. Then Stu comes in and is there to stay. How fucking rough would that have been for him.

give me a break.

I thought you were having a go at me there for a minute! :lol

Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:53:34 PM
98 Live Meltdown is truly the best anyone could have done vocally in Priest besides Halford no question.

That's a fantastic live album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 10:44:32 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:47:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:44:47 PM
Speaking of Priest and Schaffer, Owens getting axed in Priest and then in IE would have been fucking depressing. Considering Owens was always the voice Schaffer heard in his head when writing for IE only to be ditched again for Matt who lasted for one crappy album. Then Stu comes in and is there to stay. How fucking rough would that have been for him.

give me a break.

I thought you were having a go at me there for a minute! :lol

Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:53:34 PM
98 Live Meltdown is truly the best anyone could have done vocally in Priest besides Halford no question.

That's a fantastic live album.

I always agree with Wolf (except for growls)...... :metal
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 11:02:50 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 10:44:32 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:47:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 09:44:47 PM
Speaking of Priest and Schaffer, Owens getting axed in Priest and then in IE would have been fucking depressing. Considering Owens was always the voice Schaffer heard in his head when writing for IE only to be ditched again for Matt who lasted for one crappy album. Then Stu comes in and is there to stay. How fucking rough would that have been for him.

give me a break.

I thought you were having a go at me there for a minute! :lol

Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 09:53:34 PM
98 Live Meltdown is truly the best anyone could have done vocally in Priest besides Halford no question.

That's a fantastic live album.

I always agree with Wolf (except for growls)...... :metal

:lol Don't worry, that's a given mate.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 29, 2020, 12:56:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:04:55 PM
From what I remember, DC and Ralf were the top two until they saw Rippers tape.

I loved Tim but Ralf would have been so good in Priest.

Fo sho.

But then who for Primal Fear?

They just would have started a few years later after Ralf got the boot. :lol

If Ralf did great, and possibly even better than Owens, would they have sacked him if the fans ended up accepting him. In the same way Floor, was loved and accepted, by Nightwish fans.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2020, 03:09:43 PM: I think Ralf would have done a good job. His vocals are more similar to Halford and it would have been a smoother transition. I know Wolf loves Jugulator, but I think a large chunk of the fanbase wasn’t digging it or were indifferent. Jugulator was not the album fans expected and neither was Demolition overall. So for Ralf to work, the band would have had to make a classic sounding Priest album/s.....kind of like the first three Primal Fear albums lol. But I think it was a given Rob would be back at some point no matter what.
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Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2020, 03:10:03 PM: Quote from: Ben_Jamin on October 29, 2020, 12:56:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:04:55 PM
From what I remember, DC and Ralf were the top two until they saw Rippers tape.

I loved Tim but Ralf would have been so good in Priest.

Fo sho.

But then who for Primal Fear?

They just would have started a few years later after Ralf got the boot. :lol

If Ralf did great, and possibly even better than Owens, would they have sacked him if the fans ended up accepting him. In the same way Floor, was loved and accepted, by Nightwish fans.

It wouldn't matter who took over. Once Rob and the band reconciled and wanted to reunite, they'd be gone.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2020, 03:38:49 PM: Plus I think with Rob, it seemed like there was unfinished business for him in Priest. Painkiller was an outstanding album and him leaving seemed unnecessary and premature. Fans definitely didn’t want a split or new singer. Unlike with Queensryche who released subpar albums and parts of the fanbase were wanting a change.

Speaking of Rob, boneyard just played Fight Nailed to the Gun. Great tune and the version on Live Insurrection is kick ass.
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Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2020, 03:43:23 PM: You are right too Jason, Jugulator and Demolition didn't help was only pushed the case for the band to reunite.
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Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2020, 03:43:48 PM: War of Words is a great album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 29, 2020, 03:47:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 29, 2020, 03:10:03 PM
Quote from: Ben_Jamin on October 29, 2020, 12:56:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2020, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 27, 2020, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 27, 2020, 04:04:55 PM
From what I remember, DC and Ralf were the top two until they saw Rippers tape.

I loved Tim but Ralf would have been so good in Priest.

Fo sho.

But then who for Primal Fear?

They just would have started a few years later after Ralf got the boot. :lol

If Ralf did great, and possibly even better than Owens, would they have sacked him if the fans ended up accepting him. In the same way Floor, was loved and accepted, by Nightwish fans.

It wouldn't matter who took over. Once Rob and the band reconciled and wanted to reunite, they'd be gone.

That would be if Ralf didn't end up becoming a fan favorite. And Label saw the money would be better to keep Ralf, than risk getting Rob back.

Or we would've gotten both, in the Halloween situation...

But, I don't how the bands contract is with their label, and all the business aspects.

Could very well, have said by to Ralf. But it all depends on how Ralf would've been accepted by the fans, and if that would be turning better profits or not. It's stupid business stuff like this, that makes bands decide on certain questionable decisions.
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Post by: ozzy554 on October 29, 2020, 04:22:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 29, 2020, 03:38:49 PM
Plus I think with Rob, it seemed like there was unfinished business for him in Priest. Painkiller was an outstanding album and him leaving seemed unnecessary and premature. Fans definitely didn’t want a split or new singer. Unlike with Queensryche who released subpar albums and parts of the fanbase were wanting a change.

Speaking of Rob, boneyard just played Fight Nailed to the Gun. Great tune and the version on Live Insurrection is kick ass.

Funny thing is that Rob never intended to leave priest. He wanted to take a bit of a break and do a solo project. A misunderstanding that got out of hand led to him accidentally quitting the band when he didn't even want to in the first place.
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Post by: TAC on October 29, 2020, 05:13:25 PM: Quote from: Ben_Jamin on October 29, 2020, 03:47:01 PM
That would be if Ralf didn't end up becoming a fan favorite. And Label saw the money would be better to keep Ralf, than risk getting Rob back.

Or we would've gotten both, in the Halloween situation...

But, I don't how the bands contract is with their label, and all the business aspects.

Could very well, have said by to Ralf. But it all depends on how Ralf would've been accepted by the fans, and if that would be turning better profits or not. It's stupid business stuff like this, that makes bands decide on certain questionable decisions.

Taking Ripper over Ralfie all day long. But Rob was coming back no matter who took over.

I have no reason to think Ralf would've been accepted by the fans anymore than Ripper was. Other than possibly because Ripper is American.

What makes the Helloween different is that Deris had a long and successful tenure with the band before Kiske came back.
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Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2020, 06:07:18 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on October 29, 2020, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on October 29, 2020, 03:38:49 PM
Plus I think with Rob, it seemed like there was unfinished business for him in Priest. Painkiller was an outstanding album and him leaving seemed unnecessary and premature. Fans definitely didn’t want a split or new singer. Unlike with Queensryche who released subpar albums and parts of the fanbase were wanting a change.

Speaking of Rob, boneyard just played Fight Nailed to the Gun. Great tune and the version on Live Insurrection is kick ass.

Funny thing is that Rob never intended to leave priest. He wanted to take a bit of a break and do a solo project. A misunderstanding that got out of hand led to him accidentally quitting the band when he didn't even want to in the first place.

Indeed, which caused Rob and the band to not talk for years. Seems like the whole thing would have been avoided if they just talked it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2020, 06:09:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 29, 2020, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Ben_Jamin on October 29, 2020, 03:47:01 PM
That would be if Ralf didn't end up becoming a fan favorite. And Label saw the money would be better to keep Ralf, than risk getting Rob back.

Or we would've gotten both, in the Halloween situation...

But, I don't how the bands contract is with their label, and all the business aspects.

Could very well, have said by to Ralf. But it all depends on how Ralf would've been accepted by the fans, and if that would be turning better profits or not. It's stupid business stuff like this, that makes bands decide on certain questionable decisions.

Taking Ripper over Ralfie all day long. But Rob was coming back no matter who took over.

I have no reason to think Ralf would've been accepted by the fans anymore than Ripper was. Other than possibly because Ripper is American.

What makes the Helloween different is that Deris had a long and successful tenure with the band before Kiske came back.

Yep. If Rob wanted back in, there's no question the band and label would have punted anyone in the chair.

And yes, Deris recorded more albums then Kiske so it's a completely different situation.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 30, 2020, 11:43:18 AM: Just seen on Facebook that Erik has left H.E.A.T. but Erik was the best thing about the band. The new singer is the original singer. I didn’t rate their albums with him.

H.E.A.T ANNOUNCE NEW FRONTMAN KENNY LECKREMO

“The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away”

Swedish rock band H.E.A.T have today announced that lead singer Erik Grönwall will be leaving the band, and that his replacement will be original H.E.A.T vocalist Kenny Leckremo.

The news comes after the success of the band’s critically acclaimed sixth studio album ”H.E.A.T II” which featured the singles – ”Dangerous Ground”, ”Rock Your Body”, ”Rise”, ”Come Clean” and ”One By One”.

The original founding members of H.E.A.T issued the following statement about Erik leaving the group to pursue other interests.
”First of all, we want to thank Erik for all the crazy fun and epic travels around the world the past 10 years. Together we made H.E.A.T what it is today. Secondly, we want to welcome back founding member and original vocalist Kenny Leckremo to the band. We’re looking forward to write the next chapter of H.E.A.T story together.”

”It’s like a shot at redemption,” adds Leckremo. ”I’m thrilled to be back, and to be a part of what H.E.A.T is today. No longer just a shadow of the past, but a force into the future. The H.E.A.T legacy continues.”

Says Grönwall about his departure - ”H.E.A.T has really been a place for me to grow as an individual, singer and frontman. The guys recruited this young Swedish Idol guy and believed more in me and my potential than I did
myself. I am forever grateful for that. Gentlemen it’s been a pleasure touring the world with you. I’ve learned a lot from you and you’ve made me stronger. I look forward to build more memories with you, just not collectively as H.E.A.T.”

H.E.A.T – WORLDWIDE 2021 TOUR (More dates tba)

TICKETS - www.heatsweden.com

Thu 7 October 2021 KK’s Steel Mill, Wolverhampton, UK
Fri 8 October 2021 Warehouse, Leeds, UK
Sun 10 October 2021 Patti Pavilion, Swansea, UK
Mon 11 October 2021 Rescue Rooms, Nottingham, UK
Tue 12 October 2021 Electric Brixton, London, UK
Thu 14 October 2021 Baroeg, Rotterdam, NL
Fri 15 October 2021 Rockpalast, Bochum, DE
Sat 16 October 2021 Spiraal, Geraardsbergen, BE
Sun 17 October 2021 Le Grillen, Colmar, FR
Mon 18 October 2021 Nouveau Casino, Paris, FR
Wed 20 October 2021 Rock’n’Eat, Lyon, FR
Thu 21 October 2021 Razzmatazz 2, Barcelona, ES
Fri 22 October 2021 Mon Live, Madrid, ES
Sat 23 October 2021 ANDEN 56, Burgos, ES
Mon 25 October 2021 Z7, Pratteln, CH
Tue 26 October 2021 Colos-Saal Aschaffenburg, DE
Wed 27 October 2021 Mergener Hof, Trier, DE
Fri 29 October 2021 Legend Club, Milano, IT
Sat 30 October 2021 Conrad Sohm, Dornbirn, AT
Sun 31 October 2021 Backstage, Munich, DE
Mon 01 November 2021 Knust, Hamburg, DE

H.E.A.T
Kenny Leckremo (Vocals), Dave Dalone (Guitar), Jimmy Jay (Bass), Jona Tee (Keyboards)
Don Crash - Drums
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 30, 2020, 11:50:41 AM: https://youtu.be/wr17zA1UOFQ

New Voodoo Circle. Meh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2020, 03:15:55 PM: I didn't rate HEAT's early stuff much either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2020, 03:24:58 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 30, 2020, 11:50:41 AM
https://youtu.be/wr17zA1UOFQ

New Voodoo Circle. Meh.

Lasted one minute. This is crappo.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2020, 05:50:02 PM: I felt the same when it showed up on my Spotify New Release playlist.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2020, 06:42:01 PM: File the last two items as...

Quote from: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 12:09:34 PM
decent enough news.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2020, 07:43:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2020, 06:42:01 PM
File the last two items as...

Quote from: jingle.boy on October 26, 2020, 12:09:34 PM
decent enough news.

That post is gonna get a lot of use, ain’t it? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2020, 07:46:52 PM: I saw Paul's post today at work. but quoting and shit was too tough on my phone. But then I saw Kade posted VC when I got home.

I'm thinking, when did we lower our standards for this thread? :lol

Brent, c'mon back save us from ourselves!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2020, 08:34:18 PM: You have standards?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2020, 12:38:12 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 30, 2020, 07:46:52 PM
I saw Paul's post today at work. but quoting and shit was too tough on my phone. But then I saw Kade posted VC when I got home.

I'm thinking, when did we lower our standards for this thread? :lol

Brent, c'mon back save us from ourselves!

This page alone would have anyone thinking it was the Frontiers thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2020, 08:39:02 AM: Speaking of the melodic rock side , I see Erik has left H.E.A.T. and the original guy is back. Bad move I would reckon but we'll see.

I have been trying to keep up with new releases etc......but just realised I have lost my little list I had been building just in case I manage to get back into the swing of things. Ah well - 2020 can officially fuck off anyway ;D

That Voodoo Circle :lol - Jet might wanna sue. She looks so fine and I really wanna make her mine ::) If you're in the mood for something heavier with Readman ......might have already been mentioned but this is a track from a new band developed during lockdown called Immunity For The Masses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT6ekWJ3xxk

Hope everyone is well.

Happy Halloween

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY8DLFy31Bg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3IKO5bBcFZDvWxazCHofw8cCXlHPMlG0XIvsFTPPcxKcwFdYsTcp13wMk&t=3s
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 31, 2020, 06:08:14 PM: :lol awesome
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 31, 2020, 06:12:00 PM: That is great,!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 31, 2020, 06:55:25 PM: The TSO lighted house for Christmas is also spectacular.

Chevy Chase would be in complete awe
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2020, 03:00:19 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 31, 2020, 08:39:02 AM
Speaking of the melodic rock side , I see Erik has left H.E.A.T. and the original guy is back. Bad move I would reckon but we'll see.

I have been trying to keep up with new releases etc......but just realised I have lost my little list I had been building just in case I manage to get back into the swing of things. Ah well - 2020 can officially fuck off anyway ;D

That Voodoo Circle :lol - Jet might wanna sue. She looks so fine and I really wanna make her mine ::) If you're in the mood for something heavier with Readman ......might have already been mentioned but this is a track from a new band developed during lockdown called Immunity For The Masses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT6ekWJ3xxk

Hope everyone is well.

Happy Halloween

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY8DLFy31Bg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3IKO5bBcFZDvWxazCHofw8cCXlHPMlG0XIvsFTPPcxKcwFdYsTcp13wMk&t=3s

Nice to see you posting Brent. Hope you are getting back into it now with your restrictions lifting. Definitely will check out that Readman song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on November 05, 2020, 07:29:33 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-uriah-heep-keyboardist-ken-hensley-dead-at-75/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-uriah-heep-keyboardist-ken-hensley-dead-at-75/)

RIP Ken Hensley
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2020, 08:11:51 AM: Quote from: ozzy554 on November 05, 2020, 07:29:33 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-uriah-heep-keyboardist-ken-hensley-dead-at-75/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-uriah-heep-keyboardist-ken-hensley-dead-at-75/)

RIP Ken Hensley

Oh wow. Played in Blackfoot too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2020, 12:55:01 PM: Damn, another death.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 06, 2020, 03:13:51 AM: Thunder - Last One Out Turn Off The Lights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgyYdEk-Na4&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=Thunder-Topic)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 06, 2020, 04:14:04 AM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 06, 2020, 03:13:51 AM
Thunder - Last One Out Turn Off The Lights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgyYdEk-Na4&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=Thunder-Topic)

Not bad, sounds like Thunder.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 09, 2020, 02:58:25 PM: http://bravewords.com/news/savatage-are-plotting-their-return-jon-oliva-is-always-working-on-new-music-constantly-sending-me-new-songs-and-new-ideas-says-guitarist-al-pitrelli?fbclid=IwAR1i4oUrOPnJzyVkMpgLJN9Z77qsTYJVi3zwIG8vxsdGkK60cOYT4M2QwY8

Apparently, Savatage are working on some new stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2020, 03:30:06 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 09, 2020, 02:58:25 PM
http://bravewords.com/news/savatage-are-plotting-their-return-jon-oliva-is-always-working-on-new-music-constantly-sending-me-new-songs-and-new-ideas-says-guitarist-al-pitrelli?fbclid=IwAR1i4oUrOPnJzyVkMpgLJN9Z77qsTYJVi3zwIG8vxsdGkK60cOYT4M2QwY8

Apparently, Savatage are working on some new stuff.

I'll believe it when it happens. It would be wonderful though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on November 09, 2020, 04:43:28 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 09, 2020, 02:58:25 PM
http://bravewords.com/news/savatage-are-plotting-their-return-jon-oliva-is-always-working-on-new-music-constantly-sending-me-new-songs-and-new-ideas-says-guitarist-al-pitrelli?fbclid=IwAR1i4oUrOPnJzyVkMpgLJN9Z77qsTYJVi3zwIG8vxsdGkK60cOYT4M2QwY8

Apparently, Savatage are working on some new stuff.

That would be cool to see. One of the last times Jon appeared in the news he was recovering from a mild stroke while working on his next solo album so I'm glad to see he seems to have recovered.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2020, 04:45:22 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on November 09, 2020, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 09, 2020, 02:58:25 PM
http://bravewords.com/news/savatage-are-plotting-their-return-jon-oliva-is-always-working-on-new-music-constantly-sending-me-new-songs-and-new-ideas-says-guitarist-al-pitrelli?fbclid=IwAR1i4oUrOPnJzyVkMpgLJN9Z77qsTYJVi3zwIG8vxsdGkK60cOYT4M2QwY8

Apparently, Savatage are working on some new stuff.

That would be cool to see. One of the last times Jon appeared in the news he was recovering from a mild stroke while working on his next solo album so I'm glad to see he seems to have recovered.

Jesus, I didn't know that. I hope he's at least taken more care and lost some weight.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 09, 2020, 05:36:52 PM: I know it’s coming from Frontiers, but since it’s good musician, thought I’d put it here.

Quote
Frontiers Music Srl is pleased to announce the signing of Danish vocalist Ronnie Atkins Official to a solo deal. The acclaimed Pretty Maids and Nordic Union vocalist is currently wrapping up work on a new solo album, "One Shot," which will be released in the spring of 2021.

"To be honest, I initially had no intention to do a solo album to begin with, but for various reasons and in particularly my own personal health situation I finally decided to have a crack at it," says Atkins.

"Around Easter 2020 and only some six weeks after I was told that everything seemingly looked very positive for my health, I was unfortunately diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and told it was incurable, which was devastating news for me. Needless to say, that was a total game changer and I went into kind of a panic situation for a while! But when the dust had settled. I realised there were two ways to approach the situation. I could sit down, accept the facts, and feel pity for myself or I could pull myself up, set some goals, pursue my dreams, and carry on living! And with fantastic back up from my family and true friends, I went for the latter!" continues Atkins.

With the global pandemic shutting down touring for the foreseeable future, Atkins knew a tour promoting the latest Pretty Maids album, "Undress Your Madness" (2019) was not going to be in the cards anytime soon. Suddenly, the timing for working on a new solo album seemed to have presented itself.

"Well, I couldn’t change the way things were by any means. The whole world was on a lockdown and the future prospects of concerts were very uncertain and still is to this day! Basically, that meant that if I was gonna carry out the idea of a solo album, it had to be now since I don't necessarily have all the time in the world. I had all these ideas recorded on my iPhone that I felt were too good to never see the light of day and I was writing a lot at the time to help ease my frustrations," tells Atkins.

Ronnie's next step was that he hooked up with good friend and PM bandmate and producer Chris Laney to begin the work of putting these ideas together into songs. Chris is overseeing production, Jacob Hansen will mix, and musicians/singers appearing on the album include, in addition to Laney, Allan Sørensen, Morten Sandager, Pontus Egberg, Pontus Norgren, Kee Marcello, Olliver Hartmann, John Berg, Anders Ringman, Linnea Vikström Egg, and Björn Strid.

The album is currently scheduled for release in spring of 2021 with the first single and more album details to be revealed in January 2021.

Stay tuned!

https://www.facebook.com/RonnieAtkinsOfficial
https://www.instagram.com/ronnie_atkins_official
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2020, 06:04:24 PM: A couple of decent names in there involved might hopefully make this something worthwhile. Not a Del Vicchio in sight either!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2020, 06:26:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 09, 2020, 06:04:24 PM
A couple of decent names in there involved might hopefully make this something worthwhile. Not a Del Vicchio in sight either!

Yeah, Ronnie and Atkins.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2020, 06:41:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 09, 2020, 06:26:56 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 09, 2020, 06:04:24 PM
A couple of decent names in there involved might hopefully make this something worthwhile. Not a Del Vicchio in sight either!

Yeah, Ronnie and Atkins.

:lol

Bjorn Strid! :metal

Kee can play and Pontus is a great guitarist too. Not really much to write home about though I do agree.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 10, 2020, 05:17:01 AM: I can see Savatage releasing a new song or two, but I doubt a new album and no way a tour.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2020, 09:36:53 AM: Doesn't sound good for Ronnie. :'(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2020, 01:37:24 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 10, 2020, 09:36:53 AM
Doesn't sound good for Ronnie. :'(

Just awful.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on November 11, 2020, 02:36:02 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2020, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 10, 2020, 09:36:53 AM
Doesn't sound good for Ronnie. :'(

Just awful.

Yea, terrible. I feel bad for him and anyone who gets that kind of devastating news.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 11, 2020, 02:43:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2020, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 10, 2020, 09:36:53 AM
Doesn't sound good for Ronnie. :'(

Just awful.

Yeah. My first reaction was "I hope he's around to see it released". :-\ :'(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on November 11, 2020, 02:59:15 PM: Eclipse released a live album/bluray, here's the video of Downfall of Eden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLVKJFACEQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLVKJFACEQ8)

I bought the blu-ray and it came with an immediate digital download of the audio, pretty cool :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2020, 03:07:26 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on November 11, 2020, 02:59:15 PM
Eclipse released a live album/bluray, here's the video of Downfall of Eden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLVKJFACEQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLVKJFACEQ8)

I bought the blu-ray and it came with an immediate digital download of the audio, pretty cool :metal

I used to love this band but jeez they turned into a pile of shit for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 04:48:59 AM: New Iron Savior

https://youtu.be/sw_XL8V3dgc

I like these guys. They have been surprisingly consistent and the last one was very good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2020, 05:25:03 AM: I should check them out. I think I've tried them here and there, but don't really remember much.

Right after I listen to the new Pyramaze that dropped today. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 01:35:59 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 13, 2020, 05:25:03 AM
I should check them out. I think I've tried them here and there, but don't really remember much.

Right after I listen to the new Pyramaze that dropped today. :metal

Didn't realise that was out already.

Yeah, IS is nothing remarkable, probably wouldn't do much for you I'm guessing, but they are very good heavy metal.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 05:05:36 PM: Speaking of Keel;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ron-keel-is-planning-to-perform-special-black-sabbath-set-in-honor-of-his-time-with-the-band/

:rollin What an absolute flog! Hey Ron, you forgot you didn't join Sabbath for a reason, and I guarantee most fans never knew you were even looked at. I sure didn't, nor do I give a fuck.

Oh damn, it's such a shame Tony went with the legend that is Glenn Hughes for the next album. Would have much preferred Ron Keel!! LOL!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2020, 05:06:52 PM: I barely remember him being in Keel! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 05:46:25 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2020, 05:06:52 PM
I barely remember him being in Keel! ;D

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 13, 2020, 07:15:01 PM: Iron Savior does an excellent version of Desert Plains.

I’m with Paul with Keel. The Right to Rock rocks, pure 80s. When it comes to 80s Sabbath, it’s pretty interesting seeing how many different singers had a cup of coffee with the band. Ray Gillen had a few shows with the band. I think Ron Keel and Dave Donato had a photo shoot with the band lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 13, 2020, 07:38:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2020, 05:06:52 PM
I barely remember him being in Keel! ;D

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 11:29:04 PM: Love Martin but, Gillans version of TEI. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 13, 2020, 11:49:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 11:29:04 PM
Love Martin but, Gillans version of TEI. :metal

I’ve listened to both...would you pick Gillian over Martin? Obviously Ronnie wins it all
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2020, 12:05:48 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2020, 11:49:55 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 11:29:04 PM
Love Martin but, Gillans version of TEI. :metal

I’ve listened to both...would you pick Gillian over Martin? Obviously Ronnie wins it all

Nah, don't think so.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2020, 12:11:49 AM: Ronnie right? :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2020, 12:16:34 AM: The Martin stuff has always been a personal fav, but there's no comparison between the two vocally.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2020, 12:24:23 AM: Quote from: wolfking on November 14, 2020, 12:16:34 AM
The Martin stuff has always been a personal fav, but there's no comparison between the two vocally.

Martin era is underrated no question, we’ve talked about this and they deserve a true reissue. But those two albums, Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules will always be true heavy metal classics :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2020, 05:42:34 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2020, 05:06:52 PM
I barely remember him being in Keel! ;D

:rollin :rollin

I can’t generally stand Glenn Hughes so would have taken RK instead of him.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2020, 03:58:32 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 14, 2020, 05:42:34 AM
Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2020, 05:06:52 PM
I barely remember him being in Keel! ;D

:rollin :rollin

I can’t generally stand Glenn Hughes so would have taken RK instead of him.

I think Hughes is great on Seventh Star.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 15, 2020, 07:04:00 AM: Seventh Star is a good album. I believe it was supposed to be a Tony solo album but the record company made him stick the Sabbath name to it
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2020, 01:18:02 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 15, 2020, 07:04:00 AM
Seventh Star is a good album. I believe it was supposed to be a Tony solo album but the record company made him stick the Sabbath name to it

Correct.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on November 17, 2020, 12:18:36 PM: New track from Dino Jelasic, where he put vocals on a Bumblefoot instrumental. Great job considering the restraints of doing it this way.

https://youtu.be/3jw5QFSIEF4

Kind of reminds me of Ark, only better.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2020, 01:30:44 PM: Dino Jelasic?

Is that dinosaur rock from the jelasic period?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 17, 2020, 02:01:56 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: King Postwhore on November 17, 2020, 02:04:45 PM: It's funny having Tim type that out. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2020, 07:22:38 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 17, 2020, 01:30:44 PM
Dino Jelasic?

Is that dinosaur rock from the jelasic period?

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Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2020, 12:11:48 PM: Just seen a video on Facebook from Biff, Saxon are doing a covers album. 🥱. Covers albums should be banned.
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Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2020, 12:26:57 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 19, 2020, 12:11:48 PM
Just seen a video on Facebook from Biff, Saxon are doing a covers album. 🥱. Covers albums should be banned.

Why would a band of this age bother? They have been on a roll, just keep cranking out new tunes
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 19, 2020, 01:00:18 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 19, 2020, 12:11:48 PM
Just seen a video on Facebook from Biff, Saxon are doing a covers album. 🥱. Covers albums should be banned.

Did it mention what songs they would cover?
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 19, 2020, 01:02:44 PM: Just googled it, no track list yet. But I’ve never been much into cover albums either
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Post by: TAC on November 19, 2020, 07:54:37 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 19, 2020, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on November 19, 2020, 12:11:48 PM
Just seen a video on Facebook from Biff, Saxon are doing a covers album. 🥱. Covers albums should be banned.

Why would a band of this age bother?

I was listening to The Salentino Cuts last night, the final album by UFO. It's a covers album too. It is also like Saxon's, which is them doing old songs that inspired them. But I have no interest in some interpretation of some old track. Like I care to hear UFO cover Break On Through?

Actually the two best tracks on the album are not really old songs. They are John Mellancamp's Paper In Fire and Mad Season's River Of Deceit.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2020, 12:31:29 AM: Saxon did a cool cover of You’ve Got Another Thing Coming on a old Priest tribute album. There were two volumes, I think they were called legends of metal. They were actually pretty good; UDO, Fates Warning, Iced Earth, Virgin Steele, Helloween, etc were on it.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 20, 2020, 04:18:13 AM: I like a cover here and there, especially if there's a new interpretation to the original. But a whole record of covers isn't cool. Always makes me think that the band is running out of ideas. And when they cover artists they are influenced by, it's always the same old songs, so boring.
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2020, 04:21:49 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 20, 2020, 04:18:13 AM
I like a cover here and there, especially if there's a new interpretation to the original. But a whole record of covers isn't cool. Always makes me think that the band is running out of ideas. And when they cover artists they are influenced by, it's always the same old songs, so boring.

Plus as Tim said, it's songs we normally don't give a fuck about or want to hear in the first place.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2020, 04:42:34 AM: With that being said I think I would take a covers album over when a band re-records an older album or their classic songs. I can’t say I’ve ever heard a new version of a song that sounds better or even as close to as good as the original. Saxon did that about 20 years ago and the new versions were heavier, but I would take the originals any day.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2020, 05:26:06 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 20, 2020, 04:18:13 AM
I like a cover here and there, especially if there's a new interpretation to the original. But a whole record of covers isn't cool. Always makes me think that the band is running out of ideas. And when they cover artists they are influenced by, it's always the same old songs, so boring.

This totally. I often do enjoy them, when done sparingly. Tribute albums are ok too, but when a band puts out a whole album of them?? Seems like they're doing it more for themselves than for the fans. You don't need to milk money from fans for your own fan-service.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 20, 2020, 07:09:55 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 20, 2020, 04:42:34 AM
With that being said I think I would take a covers album over when a band re-records an older album or their classic songs. I can’t say I’ve ever heard a new version of a song that sounds better or even as close to as good as the original. Saxon did that about 20 years ago and the new versions were heavier, but I would take the originals any day.

Yeah, re-recording old stuff is even more lame than a covers album. If you don't like how the song sounds, try a remix.

That said, I think Wihtesnake's Here I Go Again actually sounds better than the original, but then Crying In The Rain is a lot worse, imo.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2020, 08:51:24 AM: Yeah I think Whitesnake made a good decision re-recording Here I Go Again :lol.

But that was only a few years apart. But when bands redo albums or songs 20-30 years later, for me, it will always be subpar. Did anyone listen to that Lynch Mob re-record of Wicked Sensation?

But I think a lot of bands do that so they can get rights to certain songs. So in that regard, I can understand; it might be more spite to record companies. I remember Geoff Tate doing that a few years ago for spite to QR.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 20, 2020, 08:58:26 AM: Never knew that Wicked Sensation was rerecorded and now that I know I have no desire to ever listen to it. :D That original is fine as it is and can't possibly be made better.

That Tate thing was just shit, he didn't even try to make it sound decent.

Journey's Eclipse (?) has a second cd with rerecordings of their greatest hits, it had something to do with gaining the rights again or something like that. I listened to it once and thought: Why would anyone listen to it????
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2020, 01:22:54 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on November 20, 2020, 08:51:24 AM
But I think a lot of bands do that so they can get rights to certain songs. So in that regard, I can understand; it might be more spite to record companies. I remember Geoff Tate doing that a few years ago for spite to QR.

This is indeed the main reason for a lot of re-records.
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2020, 01:24:52 PM: One really excellent re-record album is Gamma Rays Blast from the Past. It's a greatest hits 2CD with all the Ralf songs re-recorded and the newer songs getting some touch ups. Wonderful package.
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Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2020, 01:55:26 PM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/michael-schenker-group-lyric-video-for-drilled-to-kill-feat-ralf-scheepers/

New album. Will check the song later.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2020, 02:39:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 20, 2020, 01:55:26 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/michael-schenker-group-lyric-video-for-drilled-to-kill-feat-ralf-scheepers/

New album. Will check the song later.

:metal :metal
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Post by: Kwyjibo on November 20, 2020, 03:01:26 PM: Just thought of Anthrax's The Greater Of Two Evils. Belladonna songs rerecorded with John Bush on vocals. That actually isn't that bad. So I may rephrase my opinion that not all, only most of rerecorded albums are lame.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 20, 2020, 03:13:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 20, 2020, 01:24:52 PM
One really excellent re-record album is Gamma Rays Blast from the Past. It's a greatest hits 2CD with all the Ralf songs re-recorded and the newer songs getting some touch ups. Wonderful package.
That brought me back, that was my first GR album I bought and yea it's a solid one. :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2020, 03:18:11 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 20, 2020, 03:01:26 PM
Just thought of Anthrax's The Greater Of Two Evils. Belladonna songs rerecorded with John Bush on vocals. That actually isn't that bad. So I may rephrase my opinion that not all, only most of rerecorded albums are lame.

Good call on that one
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2020, 03:20:39 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 20, 2020, 01:55:26 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/michael-schenker-group-lyric-video-for-drilled-to-kill-feat-ralf-scheepers/

New album. Will check the song later.

Tim’s gonna be a combination of giddy and apoplectic

This was at the top of my Release Radar playlist. Very nice way to start my day today.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2020, 02:01:52 AM: https://youtu.be/7ojvtjwZYgM

This sounds promising. James Durban from American Idol, apparently.
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Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2020, 01:13:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 22, 2020, 02:01:52 AM
https://youtu.be/7ojvtjwZYgM

This sounds promising. James Durban from American Idol, apparently.

Never heard him before but this was decent.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 22, 2020, 01:40:27 PM: Yeah that was pretty darn good. I didn’t think James was the best fit for Quiet Riot, at least with the studio songs. It was a much better match with the older songs live. But this song and style suits him well.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 27, 2020, 12:27:27 PM: EUROPE - The Final Countdown 30th Anniversary Show - Live At The Roundhouse (Full Concert) (https://youtu.be/cMLEY6tWLLo)

They sound so good!
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Post by: ozzy554 on December 04, 2020, 02:03:11 PM: 2020 keeps finding ways to surprise me. Graham Bonnet out of alcatrazz.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/alcatrazz-parts-ways-with-founding-singer-graham-bonnet-welcomes-doogie-white/

White is more than a capable singer but Bonnet IS alcatrazz.

UPDATE: apparently Graham will be going forward with his own alcatrazz project and will announce the new lineup later. So I guess they'll be 2 of them because that's always fun
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2020, 04:51:53 PM: That's good, because I didn't think one Alcatrazz was enough truthfully.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2020, 05:28:08 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 04, 2020, 04:51:53 PM
That's good, because I didn't think one Alcatrazz was enough truthfully.

I was thinking the same thing a few weeks ago
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2020, 05:40:21 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2020, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 04, 2020, 04:51:53 PM
That's good, because I didn't think one Alcatrazz was enough truthfully.

I was thinking the same thing a few weeks ago

I mean, it makes perfect sense and two is better than one of course.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2020, 05:53:45 PM: 4 Ratts, 3 LA Guns, 2 Alcatrazz, a Winger and a Partridge in a Pear Tree
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2020, 05:57:25 PM: :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2020, 06:05:12 PM: :rollin :rollin
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Post by: ozzy554 on December 04, 2020, 06:05:42 PM: How does this happen so easily nowadays? It seems like every few years we have something like this happen. Yet poor Rod Evans had his "Deep Purple" for about 3 months before being sued into oblivion losing all royalties to hush.....and that's with the other band not even being active at the time lol
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2020, 08:15:17 PM: Cementing the fact that Doogie's brief but incredible run with Michael Schenker is over. Very sad.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 05, 2020, 02:15:28 AM: Quote from: ozzy554 on December 04, 2020, 02:03:11 PM

White is more than a capable singer but Bonnet IS alcatrazz.

Exactly..............seems there is an out of control manager running riot here but in the end there is no Alcatrazz without Bonnet. It's not like the millions versions of Ratt/La Guns where there is generally at least one prominent member involved - and even they are a joke.

I'm all for multiple versions of Winger though - can't get enuff versions.
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Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2020, 04:16:20 AM: The more Kip, the merrier as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2020, 04:17:04 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 04, 2020, 08:15:17 PM
Cementing the fact that Doogie's brief but incredible run with Michael Schenker is over. Very sad.

Even though I've only been a fan of this combo a month, it's very disappointing.
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2020, 03:50:57 PM: Jimmy Kay's The Metal Voice had a livestream today with Jimmy Waldo and Giles Lavery (Alcatrazz's manager). It's an hour long, but really insightful into the break up with Graham Bonnet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCtVkDp_-zk

Some highlights..

* Even though Graham signed on to do the last album and promote it, he constantly complained about the direction of the album
* He doesn't like heavy shreddy music
* Bonnet basically disappeared for and would not contact anyone for weeks even though there were promo obligations
* The band's mamanger, also was Bonnet's manager resigned from representing Bonnet after being unable to communicate with him
* When Bonnet did do press, he started pimping the new Graham Bonnet Band while supposed to be promoting Alcatrazz
* The band was pissed off, as they have 2021 obligations
* All that is announced is that Doogie will be fulfilling the live obligations, but reading between the lines, he will be on their next album

also..
* When the band was being formed by Bonnet, Waldo, and Shea, their drummer search included spending three days with Clive Burr, but unfortunately he wasn't in great shape during this time.
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Post by: ozzy554 on December 06, 2020, 04:50:45 PM: I listened to that too and was about to post about it here. I know it's only one side of the story but now I'm rooting for the other guys. Whether you like the musical direction or not if you signed a contract you do the work you've agreed to. Also it seems that over the years Graham has been taking a bit too much credit even though the songwriting was more of a collaborative effort. They guy's have mentioned that Graham has been in a dark place recently with unnamed personal problems so at the end of the day I just hope he's ok.

Giles sounded heartbroken during parts of the interview because managing graham was a passion project for him. He openly said that he knew it wasn't going to be a lucrative gig but he just really wanted to work with him. It seems like he still worked his ass off for him as Graham has a bit of a career resurgence under his management.

Still going to be weird hearing Alcatrazz with someone else but I'm more open minded to it after the interview than I was before.
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2020, 05:00:57 PM: I hated how Jimmy Kay kept interrupting Jimmy Waldo with nonsense.

Quote from: ozzy554 on December 06, 2020, 04:50:45 PM
Still going to be weird hearing Alcatrazz with someone else but I'm more open minded to it after the interview than I was before.

Oh definitely, and Doogie's excellent work with Michael Schenker over most of the past decade has me very accepting of whatever he's doing.

But honestly, a keyboard player and a bassist carrying on the band's name? I do think that's kind of lame even though they are original members.
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Post by: ozzy554 on December 06, 2020, 05:06:35 PM: Yeah I can agree on that but they have commitments and they need to get them done and it sounded like graham didn't give them many options.

Though if they do make an album with Doogie they have to knock it out of the park. The songwriting for it I think will either make or break that band.
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2020, 05:11:04 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on December 06, 2020, 05:06:35 PM
Though if they do make an album with Doogie they have to knock it out of the park. The songwriting for it I think will either make or break that band.

Well, Born Innocent fucking blows chunks so it won't be hard to top that.
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Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2020, 05:44:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 06, 2020, 05:11:04 PM
Quote from: ozzy554 on December 06, 2020, 05:06:35 PM
Though if they do make an album with Doogie they have to knock it out of the park. The songwriting for it I think will either make or break that band.

Well, Born Innocent fucking blows chunks so it won't be hard to top that.

I didn't check the album but I liked the Polar Bear song. Based on knowing you and what blows chunks, I won't bother.
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Post by: TAC on December 06, 2020, 05:59:14 PM: I actually liked the Polar Bear song. I had high hopes for that album.
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Post by: ozzy554 on December 06, 2020, 06:23:03 PM: Haven't listened to the full album either but that's not surprising if he was half assing it in the studio as much as they said he was. If the face of the band and main lyricist doesn't want to be there it's going to show. According to them it sounds like he really only tried on about a handful of the songs. like 3 out of 14.
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Post by: TAC on December 07, 2020, 06:52:46 PM: Graham Bonnet speaks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-cNzL9aPL8
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Post by: Lowdz on December 09, 2020, 09:39:08 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 06, 2020, 05:44:15 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 06, 2020, 05:11:04 PM
Quote from: ozzy554 on December 06, 2020, 05:06:35 PM
Though if they do make an album with Doogie they have to knock it out of the park. The songwriting for it I think will either make or break that band.

Well, Born Innocent fucking blows chunks so it won't be hard to top that.

I didn't check the album but I liked the Polar Bear song. Based on knowing you and what blows chunks, I won't bother.

i think I gave it one listen and it was ok. Don't remember much tbh. I felt that the lyrics were out there for the sake of it - Graham always did try to stay away from the usual cliched lyrics, but th epolar bear lyrics were just off putting.
The band was so good when I saw them last year though. Joe Stump out Yngwie'd Yngwie. And Graham was excellent, from his stool because of his bad back. Doesn't get any more rock n roll than that! :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 13, 2020, 08:33:55 PM: New Saxon video:

Paint It Black (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h4LdiM4C8w)

Here's the track listing:

1. Paint It Black
2. Immigrant Song
3. Paperback Writer
4. Evil Woman
5. Stone Free
6. Bomber
7. Speed King
8. The Rocker
9. Hold The Line
10. Problem Child
11. See My Friends

This is not a must buy, but I am looking forward to hearing Bomber, Speed King, and Problem Child.
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Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2020, 08:44:08 PM: I may listen, but I have zero interest in this.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 14, 2020, 01:04:58 AM: When I heard there was going to be a cover of Paint it Black I thought they could have picked a different song that hasn’t been covered constantly over the years. But this was much better than I expected, really good. I am curious to hear Problem Child, Rocker and Hold the Line
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Post by: Lowdz on December 14, 2020, 04:01:33 AM: Can it beat this version though? :omg:

https://youtu.be/pJIcwD5gm34
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Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2020, 04:06:27 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 14, 2020, 04:01:33 AM
Can it beat this version though? :omg:

https://youtu.be/pJIcwD5gm34

What a fucking awful, awful guitarist.
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Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2020, 04:16:14 AM: You know a good Paint it Black cover? Glenn Tipton.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 14, 2020, 12:27:23 PM: Ronnie Atkins first single - Real, from the album One Shot to be released March 12th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oIp7dQx9k

Pretty much exactly as I would've expected. Me likey.
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Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2020, 04:26:24 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 14, 2020, 12:27:23 PM
Ronnie Atkins first single - Real, from the album One Shot to be released March 12th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oIp7dQx9k

Pretty much exactly as I would've expected. Me likey.

All the best Ronnie, much love to him, but this fucking sucks.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 15, 2020, 04:38:02 AM: :lol

Out of respect to Pretty Maids I lasted a minute and half before tapping out
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Post by: Lowdz on December 15, 2020, 06:03:26 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 14, 2020, 12:27:23 PM
Ronnie Atkins first single - Real, from the album One Shot to be released March 12th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oIp7dQx9k

Pretty much exactly as I would've expected. Me likey.

i liked it too. Seems we're alone!
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 15, 2020, 06:33:31 AM: Actually I relistened to the whole thing and I change my mind; it’s a really catchy song. I might have just been taken a back because it wasn’t what I expected.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 15, 2020, 10:12:18 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 15, 2020, 06:03:26 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 14, 2020, 12:27:23 PM
Ronnie Atkins first single - Real, from the album One Shot to be released March 12th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oIp7dQx9k

Pretty much exactly as I would've expected. Me likey.

i liked it too. Seems we're alone!

I mean, the *video* aspect to it wasn't great, but the music and lyrics were rock solid. I was also kinda touched with the real personal side to it as well. Some of those lyrics ... :-[ :'(

From the first breath, to the last sigh
Every day is a gift
In the end, I wouldn't change a single thing
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Post by: Lowdz on December 15, 2020, 11:05:38 AM: It certainly brings a poignancy to the lyrics, knowing what he’s facing.

On a separate note, to bring some Christmas cheer, https://youtu.be/vbdm60hA2Qg
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 15, 2020, 01:00:28 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 15, 2020, 11:05:38 AM
On a separate note, to bring some Christmas cheer, https://youtu.be/vbdm60hA2Qg

(https://media.tenor.com/images/9c72ed2a3dce8cf2a5c92d4b1eab13f3/tenor.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 15, 2020, 02:33:22 PM: Whoa
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Post by: Lowdz on December 16, 2020, 11:26:53 AM: Just posted by Magnus Karlsson on facetube

So I made a metal opera together with some awesome people! Check out the first press release!

"Coming March 12, 2021, the debut album from Heart Healer! Entitled "The Metal Opera by Magnus Karlsson", this album is epic in scope and execution and features seven stunning singers: Adrienne Cowan (Seven Spires, Sascha Paeth's Masters Of Ceremony, Avantasia), Ailyn (Her Chariot Awaits ex-Sirenia), Netta Laurenne (Smackbound, Laurenne/Louhimo), Youmna Jreissati (Ostura), Noora Louhimo (Noora's corner official, Battle Beast), Margarita Monet (Edge Of Paradise), and Anette Olzon (The Dark Element, ex-Nightwish).
More details and first single coming on January 25th.....
Early pre-orders available now at https://www.frontiers.shop (EU). For U.S. customers, Amazon should have pre-orders up soon and they will also be available from our BRAND NEW U.S. store that is launching in January!"
Tracklisting:
1. Awake
2. Come Out Of The Shadows
3. Who Can Stand All Alone
4. Back To Life
5. Into The Unknown
6. When The Fire Burns Out
7. Evil’s Around The Corner
8. Mesmerized
9. Weaker
10. This Is Not The End

Can’t say I’m sleepless with excitement to be honest but who knows. I’m not particularly keen on female symphonic vocals. Except for Floor - she makes me cry.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 16, 2020, 12:24:27 PM: Yeah, I saw this. Naturally, I'm all over it like a cougar on a wounded chicken.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2020, 01:26:59 PM: Wow! No Ronnie Romero??
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Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2020, 02:39:53 PM: As much as I love this guy, the thought of something with all female singers makes me want to cry. Not keen for this at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 16, 2020, 03:08:27 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 16, 2020, 11:26:53 AM
Just posted by Magnus Karlsson on facetube

So I made a metal opera together with some awesome people! Check out the first press release!

"Coming March 12, 2021, the debut album from Heart Healer! Entitled "The Metal Opera by Magnus Karlsson", this album is epic in scope and execution and features seven stunning singers: Adrienne Cowan (Seven Spires, Sascha Paeth's Masters Of Ceremony, Avantasia), Ailyn (Her Chariot Awaits ex-Sirenia), Netta Laurenne (Smackbound, Laurenne/Louhimo), Youmna Jreissati (Ostura), Noora Louhimo (Noora's corner official, Battle Beast), Margarita Monet (Edge Of Paradise), and Anette Olzon (The Dark Element, ex-Nightwish).
More details and first single coming on January 25th.....
Early pre-orders available now at https://www.frontiers.shop (EU). For U.S. customers, Amazon should have pre-orders up soon and they will also be available from our BRAND NEW U.S. store that is launching in January!"
Tracklisting:
1. Awake
2. Come Out Of The Shadows
3. Who Can Stand All Alone
4. Back To Life
5. Into The Unknown
6. When The Fire Burns Out
7. Evil’s Around The Corner
8. Mesmerized
9. Weaker
10. This Is Not The End

Can’t say I’m sleepless with excitement to be honest but who knows. I’m not particularly keen on female symphonic vocals. Except for Floor - she makes me cry.
For a sec I thought that was Magnus speaking. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2020, 05:26:11 PM: Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 16, 2020, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 16, 2020, 11:26:53 AM
Just posted by Magnus Karlsson on facetube

So I made a metal opera together with some awesome people! Check out the first press release!

"Coming March 12, 2021, the debut album from Heart Healer! Entitled "The Metal Opera by Magnus Karlsson", this album is epic in scope and execution and features seven stunning singers: Adrienne Cowan (Seven Spires, Sascha Paeth's Masters Of Ceremony, Avantasia), Ailyn (Her Chariot Awaits ex-Sirenia), Netta Laurenne (Smackbound, Laurenne/Louhimo), Youmna Jreissati (Ostura), Noora Louhimo (Noora's corner official, Battle Beast), Margarita Monet (Edge Of Paradise), and Anette Olzon (The Dark Element, ex-Nightwish).
More details and first single coming on January 25th.....
Early pre-orders available now at https://www.frontiers.shop (EU). For U.S. customers, Amazon should have pre-orders up soon and they will also be available from our BRAND NEW U.S. store that is launching in January!"
Tracklisting:
1. Awake
2. Come Out Of The Shadows
3. Who Can Stand All Alone
4. Back To Life
5. Into The Unknown
6. When The Fire Burns Out
7. Evil’s Around The Corner
8. Mesmerized
9. Weaker
10. This Is Not The End

Can’t say I’m sleepless with excitement to be honest but who knows. I’m not particularly keen on female symphonic vocals. Except for Floor - she makes me cry.
For a sec I thought that was Magnus speaking. :lol

:lol

That's what we need from Frontiers - an honest press release!!

"Coming in March 2021 , yet another half assed project featuring seven 2nd rate singers you've never heard of, (and who have never heard of each other......or been in the same room as each other) produced by the usual suspects . Appallingly badly shot video coming soon - get your pre-orders in now!"

Noora from Battle Beast is actually pretty decent and maybe one or two others but like the others I am not anticipating much. Ronnie Romero in drag would've been interesting though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2020, 06:36:45 PM: Ronnie is a little bitch anyway. He'd fit in perfectly.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2020, 06:37:50 PM: You do have to give it to Magnus, he never stops working. Maybe metal opera means a little variety in the songs at least, but I'm not hopeful.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2020, 06:43:10 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 16, 2020, 06:37:50 PM
You do have to give it to Magnus, he never stops working. Maybe metal opera means a little variety in the songs at least, but I'm not hopeful.

And you have to respect that. As you found out with Michael Schenker, the guy has been writing music NON STOP since the early 70's. It doesn't always work but it's still admirable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 16, 2020, 06:47:09 PM: Hey Kade, there’s this coming up too in 2021

(https://i1.wp.com/cgcmpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Issa-Queen-of-Broken-Hearts.jpg?resize=350%2C350)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2020, 06:51:36 PM: Wrong damn thread!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2020, 07:04:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 16, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 16, 2020, 06:37:50 PM
You do have to give it to Magnus, he never stops working. Maybe metal opera means a little variety in the songs at least, but I'm not hopeful.

And you have to respect that. As you found out with Michael Schenker, the guy has been writing music NON STOP since the early 70's. It doesn't always work but it's still admirable.

Schenker popped into my mind as I was typing that. Haha.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2020, 07:04:43 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 16, 2020, 06:47:09 PM
Hey Kade, there’s this coming up too in 2021

(https://i1.wp.com/cgcmpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Issa-Queen-of-Broken-Hearts.jpg?resize=350%2C350)

Fuck........
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 17, 2020, 01:57:32 AM: This thread is getting too modern for my liking. Boys, let’s dial it back a bit please
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2020, 04:48:51 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 17, 2020, 01:57:32 AM
This thread is getting too modern for my liking. Boys, let’s dial it back a bit please

Haha, it's turning into the Frontiers thread for sure with that Issa bitch getting thrown in here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 17, 2020, 06:09:02 AM: :lol
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Post by: ozzy554 on December 17, 2020, 11:22:55 AM: According to Andrew Watt the new ozzy album is halfway done. Like the last one there will be several special guests. Right now Robert Trujillo and Taylor Hawkins from foo fighters are confirmed.

He said they've been taking their time with this one and that they have a few that are around the 8-9 minute mark which will be interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 17, 2020, 02:30:40 PM: I thought the last one was tripe. Why would I listen to modern Ozzy with guest singers from mainstream (Post Malone, seriously!?!?!) when I can listen to 80s Ozzy and No More Lies.

Hard pass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 17, 2020, 02:43:06 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 17, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
I thought the last one was tripe. Why would I listen to modern Ozzy with guest singers from mainstream (Post Malone, seriously!?!?!) when I can listen to 80s Ozzy and No More Lies.

Hard pass.

100%
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2020, 03:12:17 PM: I didn't even check that last Ozzy record.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2020, 03:17:37 PM: I didn't even check No More Lies :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2020, 03:18:27 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 17, 2020, 03:17:37 PM
I didn't even check No More Lies :biggrin:

Ha! Missed that. Not a bad Maiden song that one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2020, 05:30:59 PM: Hey Kade - your inbox is full of messages from Issa and I can't get through :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 17, 2020, 05:44:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 17, 2020, 03:17:37 PM
I didn't even check No More Lies :biggrin:

:lolpalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2020, 07:03:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 17, 2020, 05:30:59 PM
Hey Kade - your inbox is full of messages from Issa and I can't get through :biggrin:

She's been sending me naked pics with a bag over her head.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 17, 2020, 07:11:04 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 17, 2020, 07:03:51 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 17, 2020, 05:30:59 PM
Hey Kade - your inbox is full of messages from Issa and I can't get through :biggrin:

She's been sending me naked pics with a bag over her head.

Nah, I think that was Chad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2020, 04:04:33 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 17, 2020, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 17, 2020, 07:03:51 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on December 17, 2020, 05:30:59 PM
Hey Kade - your inbox is full of messages from Issa and I can't get through :biggrin:

She's been sending me naked pics with a bag over her head.

Nah, I think that was Chad.

That home gym has been doing wonders on his chest then.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 18, 2020, 05:49:59 AM: :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 19, 2020, 03:19:51 AM: https://fb.watch/2tzfzU4tur/

There’s a short clip of the Magnus Karlsson metal opera at the end of this sampler.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2020, 03:58:57 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 19, 2020, 03:19:51 AM
https://fb.watch/2tzfzU4tur/

There’s a short clip of the Magnus Karlsson metal opera at the end of this sampler.

Everything in that trailer sounded fucking awful. The Magnus song sounded like exactly that. I'll check it but not excited.

Oh, and I see there's a band called Temple Balls?! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 20, 2020, 09:01:31 AM: Frontiers are wasting a shitload of money with all these albums. Where’s the quality control?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2020, 01:13:27 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 20, 2020, 09:01:31 AM
Frontiers are wasting a shitload of money with all these albums. Where’s the quality control?

Pretty much every band in that trailer I had never heard of, and they just kept coming too. They forgot about quality control a long time ago.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on December 20, 2020, 07:45:57 PM: I sometimes forget that there are bands I actually like on that Label. They get buried by the one off "supergroups" that we never hear from again and all the other bands with the same cheesy production that I can't tell the difference between. At this point just seeing that logo kinda dampens any enthusiasm I have for an album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2020, 08:22:57 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on December 20, 2020, 07:45:57 PM
I sometimes forget that there are bands I actually like on that Label. They get buried by the one off "supergroups" that we never hear from again and all the other bands with the same cheesy production that I can't tell the difference between. At this point just seeing that logo kinda dampens any enthusiasm I have for an album.

It's been a very long slippery slope since the day I started this thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 20, 2020, 08:25:49 PM: Um..you didn't start this thread, bro. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2020, 08:44:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 20, 2020, 08:25:49 PM
Um..you didn't start this thread, bro. :lol

Ah shit! See, this thread is turning into the Frontiers thread I'm now thinking this was it!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 20, 2020, 09:48:47 PM: Brent :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 21, 2020, 07:56:39 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 20, 2020, 08:44:32 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 20, 2020, 08:25:49 PM
Um..you didn't start this thread, bro. :lol

Ah shit! See, this thread is turning into the Frontiers thread I'm now thinking this was it!

My work here is done. :rollin :rollin

But you're right... Frontiers is about 92% shyte, 5% solid, and 3% gold.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2020, 06:38:43 PM: I'm really enjoying the new Pyramaze. I wasn't sure on it at first, it's taken a different direction from the last two, more modern with even some pop influences but I'm really liking it. It's cool they have kept their sound but done something a bit different at the same time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 23, 2020, 07:16:10 PM: I listened to one of their albums years again. That was Matt's band for a bit right?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2020, 08:11:01 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 23, 2020, 07:16:10 PM
I listened to one of their albums years again. That was Matt's band for a bit right?

Yeah, Barlow sang on one of their albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 24, 2020, 08:27:08 AM: Merry Christmas Aussies!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2020, 04:49:36 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 24, 2020, 08:27:08 AM
Merry Christmas Aussies!

Thanks Paul. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 24, 2020, 05:15:53 PM: Merry Christmas all
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 24, 2020, 07:41:35 PM: Yes, Merry Christmas guys to the best thread on the internet!

There's nothing more that I like to do than talk about music, and there's nobody else than the guys in this thread that I like to do it with.

There's friends and then there's internet friends and well, you guys blur the lines.

Cheers!

Tim
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 24, 2020, 08:08:05 PM: Merry Christmas, Kade and Brent (and Paul now too... and Kwiji and the rest of your Europeans. Still a couple hours to go for us here in NA).
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 25, 2020, 01:55:57 AM: Merry christmas to all of you. :metal Have a got time and stay healthy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 25, 2020, 02:03:53 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 24, 2020, 07:41:35 PM
Yes, Merry Christmas guys to the best thread on the internet!

There's nothing more that I like to do than talk about music, and there's nobody else than the guys in this thread that I like to do it with.

There's friends and then there's internet friends and well, you guys blur the lines.

Cheers!

Tim

Thanks mate. I have no doubt if we all lived in regions somewhat close enough we'd be hanging out quite a lot. Pretty confident in that.

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 24, 2020, 08:08:05 PM
Merry Christmas, Kade and Brent (and Paul now too... and Kwiji and the rest of your Europeans. Still a couple hours to go for us here in NA).

Thanks brother. Was a nice relaxing day. Enjoy yours fellas.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 25, 2020, 02:23:26 AM: Merry Christmas!
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Post by: Lowdz on December 25, 2020, 09:04:42 AM: Merry Christmas yanks and Canucks!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2020, 03:34:49 AM: Damn, this new Vanishing Point is legit. Terrific album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 26, 2020, 05:10:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 26, 2020, 03:34:49 AM
Damn, this new Vanishing Point is legit. Terrific album.

Told ya!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2020, 06:58:29 AM: With the UFO thread basically coming to a close, it's time to check out new music again.

I'll check the Vanishing Point tonight after work.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2020, 12:40:07 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 26, 2020, 05:10:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on December 26, 2020, 03:34:49 AM
Damn, this new Vanishing Point is legit. Terrific album.

Told ya!

Indeed you did.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2020, 05:33:57 PM: Listening now.

To The Wolves is really nice. Great chorus.

Shadow World is also really good and holy shit The Ocean :metal

But I find I'm not really a fan of this overall style. I should like it more, but it's an onslaught on my ears.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2020, 07:31:55 PM: Just read this article..

https://bravewords.com/features/tesla-bassist-brian-wheat-just-because-youre-in-a-rock-band-doesnt-mean-youre-not-human

I would never even consider reading his book, but holy crap, there's a lot to chew on in it..
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on December 27, 2020, 12:04:55 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2020, 07:31:55 PM
Just read this article..

https://bravewords.com/features/tesla-bassist-brian-wheat-just-because-youre-in-a-rock-band-doesnt-mean-youre-not-human

I would never even consider reading his book, but holy crap, there's a lot to chew on in it..

Would be a good read.

He managed to marry Sandi Saraya too - respect for that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2020, 04:07:06 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2020, 05:33:57 PM
Listening now.

To The Wolves is really nice. Great chorus.

Shadow World is also really good and holy shit The Ocean :metal

But I find I'm not really a fan of this overall style. I should like it more, but it's an onslaught on my ears.

I had a feeling their style may not be your cup of tea mate. Respect for checking it, it's a cracker in my book.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 27, 2020, 05:54:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 27, 2020, 04:07:06 AM
Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2020, 05:33:57 PM
Listening now.

To The Wolves is really nice. Great chorus.

Shadow World is also really good and holy shit The Ocean :metal

But I find I'm not really a fan of this overall style. I should like it more, but it's an onslaught on my ears.

I had a feeling their style may not be your cup of tea mate. Respect for checking it, it's a cracker in my book.

Their earlier releases are kinda hit and miss, mostly being middle-of-the-road for me - vocally they didn’t impress me. But this one seems to hit a sweet-spot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on December 27, 2020, 07:37:29 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on December 27, 2020, 12:04:55 AM
Quote from: TAC on December 26, 2020, 07:31:55 PM
Just read this article..

https://bravewords.com/features/tesla-bassist-brian-wheat-just-because-youre-in-a-rock-band-doesnt-mean-youre-not-human

I would never even consider reading his book, but holy crap, there's a lot to chew on in it..

Would be a good read.

He managed to marry Sandi Saraya too - respect for that.

Don’t know how that happened cos he’s no oil painting. Maybe it’s because she never met me? 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on December 29, 2020, 06:37:29 PM: Not sure where else to post this, but I guess this is kind of hard rock related... if you have amazon prime, you can watch the John 5 "Live Invasion" video. It's a ~50 minute live performance from his tour earlier in 2020 opening for Queensryche. I saw that show and he was awesome in person. Actually enjoyed his set more than QR. If you want to check out a cool guitar performance, I recommend it. Although I do not like how it has a lot of the backing videos mixed into the main video. I'd rather just focus on the performance. It's definitely a mixed bag of footage instead of one full performance, but it's enjoyable. He ends with a super long cover medley. The show I saw was about 10 minutes long, but this is closer to 20 minutes and includes most of the same parts I saw but a lot more and all arranged differently. Pretty cool to see how different and more extensive that medley is here.

https://www.amazon.com/John-5-Live-Invasion/dp/B08RBB836W (https://www.amazon.com/John-5-Live-Invasion/dp/B08RBB836W)

on a side note, I love how I tweeted that I was watching this last night and he liked it. I love his twitter feed playing the guitar with his cats and wife.
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2020, 08:50:08 PM: Ronnie Romero interviewed by Mitch Lafon today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElRnpT9DVAc

Geez, he's actually a real likeable guy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2020, 08:55:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 29, 2020, 08:50:08 PM
Ronnie Romero interviewed by Mitch Lafon today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElRnpT9DVAc

Geez, he's actually a real likeable guy.

Actually keen to check this out later.
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2020, 09:03:29 PM: It's only a half hour. Definitely worth it.
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Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 04:16:44 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 29, 2020, 09:03:29 PM
It's only a half hour. Definitely worth it.

I'm surprised you even checked it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 04:53:13 AM: Can't stand that interviewer. Lords of THE Black? Do your homework dickhead.

Ronnie did come across pretty humble and down to earth. We give him shit for whoring himself out but it's true, it's his job and he's trying to earn a living. Great insight in that first ten minutes. Still not happy about Sunstorm, but hardly his fault.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 31, 2020, 01:57:20 PM: Well Aussies, what’s 2021 like? Should we bother?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2020, 01:59:38 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 31, 2020, 01:57:20 PM
Well Aussies, what’s 2021 like? Should we bother?

Meh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 31, 2020, 02:55:49 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 31, 2020, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 31, 2020, 01:57:20 PM
Well Aussies, what’s 2021 like? Should we bother?

Meh.

Just another Friday morning?
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Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2020, 03:11:51 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 31, 2020, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: wolfking on December 31, 2020, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 31, 2020, 01:57:20 PM
Well Aussies, what’s 2021 like? Should we bother?

Meh.

Just another Friday morning?

Pretty much. Work being closed for today is bloody nice though.

Just did a run, now time for a recovery swim. :metal

Enjoy the New Years lads. Make it a good, hard and heavy 2021.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 31, 2020, 03:14:53 PM: Anyone spring for the KISS show from Dubai?
My brother has and I might’ve if I’d thought there would be any surprises. I’m expecting the same show I saw last year and the time before that.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 31, 2020, 03:34:23 PM: I was told it was a good show, and I think the setlist is perfect for the band. Always glad to see War Machine included :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on December 31, 2020, 04:23:07 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 31, 2020, 03:34:23 PM
I was told it was a good show, and I think the setlist is perfect for the band. Always glad to see War Machine included :metal

They played that on the tour last year and it was great to hear it. I e seen a couple of clips on YouTube- IWMFLY and God of Thunder. GoT was fine but the less said about the other track the better.
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Post by: wolfking on December 31, 2020, 06:30:21 PM: In one of my orders I got a month ago I took a punt and got the new Sorcerer. Finally getting around to it. My first listen I'm thinking it's not as strong as the last one but halfway through my second listen, it could be just as good, maybe even better.

Interested on what Brent thought of it since the last one was his album of that year.
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Post by: TAC on January 01, 2021, 03:49:27 PM: Ritchie Blackmore on Graham Bonnet:

https://youtu.be/oXW3Rk8umLY
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 01, 2021, 03:56:37 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on December 31, 2020, 04:23:07 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 31, 2020, 03:34:23 PM
I was told it was a good show, and I think the setlist is perfect for the band. Always glad to see War Machine included :metal

They played that on the tour last year and it was great to hear it. I e seen a couple of clips on YouTube- IWMFLY and God of Thunder. GoT was fine but the less said about the other track the better.

I was disappointed to see they changed up some lyrics that their Arab hosts found offensive.
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Post by: Podaar on January 02, 2021, 06:06:25 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 01, 2021, 03:49:27 PM
Ritchie Blackmore on Graham Bonnet:

https://youtu.be/oXW3Rk8umLY

That was funny. "Mrs. Las Vegas" haha.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2021, 10:52:31 AM: For the rocker of jj's.

(https://i.imgflip.com/36x3fn.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2021, 11:01:57 AM: :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2021, 11:04:54 AM: I’m like Frank the Tank, thanks for reminding me ;)
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Post by: TAC on January 05, 2021, 11:36:09 AM: Nice! Happy Birthday Jason!

(https://media.tenor.com/images/a6a934011fe58c6131f9bfc318540edb/tenor.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2021, 11:38:47 AM: :metal thanks dudes
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Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2021, 01:48:49 PM: Happy Birthday brother. Have a rocking day.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 06, 2021, 04:15:46 PM: New Durban video. Song is ok. Dude can sing. Video is pretty awful but who cares?
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Post by: Lowdz on January 07, 2021, 12:08:12 PM: Yeah, so Jon Schaffer’s a fucking nutter 😀
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 08:44:33 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 07, 2021, 12:08:12 PM
Yeah, so Jon Schaffer’s a fucking nutter 😀

Awkward, not sure what to say
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2021, 08:46:59 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 07, 2021, 12:08:12 PM
Yeah, so Jon Schaffer’s a fucking nutter 😀

Yeah, the more I think of it, the more that I don't think it will affect me listening to IE all that much. Probably won't spend any more money on his shit though in the future.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 08:50:49 PM: Wolf always makes sense of things
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2021, 08:54:11 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 08:50:49 PM
Wolf always makes sense of things

Being an Aussie probably makes that thought easier. I can see you guys taking way more offence though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 08:59:04 PM: Back to Saxon and Judas Priest
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2021, 09:00:45 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 08:59:04 PM
Back to Saxon and Judas Priest

Sounds like a fine plan to me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 09:04:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2021, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 08:59:04 PM
Back to Saxon and Judas Priest

Sounds like a fine plan to me.

Wolfster, how awesome is Defenders of the Faith?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2021, 09:57:00 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 09:04:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2021, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 08:59:04 PM
Back to Saxon and Judas Priest

Sounds like a fine plan to me.

Wolfster, how awesome is Defenders of the Faith?

The best. Timeless classic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 08, 2021, 03:01:18 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2021, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 09:04:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2021, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 07, 2021, 08:59:04 PM
Back to Saxon and Judas Priest

Sounds like a fine plan to me.

Wolfster, how awesome is Defenders of the Faith?

The best. Timeless classic.
:metal :metal :metal
Their best for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2021, 04:11:38 AM: Defenders, Painkiller and Jugulator are my top 3.
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Post by: ozzy554 on January 08, 2021, 04:45:50 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 08, 2021, 04:11:38 AM
Defenders, Painkiller and Jugulator are my top 3.

Cathedral Spires is a real overlooked gem.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2021, 04:46:54 AM: Quote from: ozzy554 on January 08, 2021, 04:45:50 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 08, 2021, 04:11:38 AM
Defenders, Painkiller and Jugulator are my top 3.

Cathedral Spires is a real overlooked gem.

Indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2021, 05:54:02 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 07, 2021, 12:08:12 PM
Yeah, so Jon Schaffer’s a fucking nutter 😀

Thankfully, I was never an IE fan to begin with.

New Evergrey single out today. I dig it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le6ZPkIEb-k

And a new Michael Schenker Group single too - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmWYrhIYhEw. You guys must really be torn, with Ronnie on the mic :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 08, 2021, 06:10:37 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 08, 2021, 05:54:02 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 07, 2021, 12:08:12 PM
Yeah, so Jon Schaffer’s a fucking nutter 😀

Thankfully, I was never an IE fan to begin with.

New Evergrey single out today. I dig it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le6ZPkIEb-k

And a new Michael Schenker Group single too - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmWYrhIYhEw. You guys must really be torn, with Ronnie on the mic :lol

I've never had a problem with his voice, just the overexposure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 14, 2021, 04:38:49 PM: Interesting interview with KK..

https://youtu.be/TcvJz_w76EU?t=1
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 05:03:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 14, 2021, 04:38:49 PM
Interesting interview with KK..

https://youtu.be/TcvJz_w76EU?t=1

He loves that story of nabbing the flying V under Schenkers nose. Heard that one before.

He was asked to join Scorpions, interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2021, 05:55:12 PM: I'm interested to hear this KK Priest with Ripper, should have a release soon.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 15, 2021, 05:58:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 05:03:04 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 14, 2021, 04:38:49 PM
Interesting interview with KK..

https://youtu.be/TcvJz_w76EU?t=1

He loves that story of nabbing the flying V under Schenkers nose. Heard that one before.

He was asked to join Scorpions, interesting.

Well, Michael asked him to join Scorpions. Not clear of the Scorps were actually aware of it. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 06:29:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 15, 2021, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 05:03:04 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 14, 2021, 04:38:49 PM
Interesting interview with KK..

https://youtu.be/TcvJz_w76EU?t=1

He loves that story of nabbing the flying V under Schenkers nose. Heard that one before.

He was asked to join Scorpions, interesting.

Well, Michael asked him to join Scorpions. Not clear of the Scorps were actually aware of it. :lol

Pretty sure Michael wouldn't have given a fuck. KK would have just rocked up with Michael one day he told them he was now in the band! :lol
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 11:10:06 AM: I have an interview with Michael Schenker tomorrow. Pretty excited for it!!!
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Post by: TAC on January 17, 2021, 11:16:02 AM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 11:10:06 AM
I have an interview with Michael Schenker tomorrow. Pretty excited for it!!!

Rodrigo, any chance you could ask him about not working with Doogie any more. He made some of the best music of his career with him, and I say that as a Schenker fan, not a Doogie fan.

Maybe you could phrase it like, I noticed you didn't use Doogie White again. Is there any reason you did not? Your work with him was outstanding.

Seriously, I would love to know.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 11:20:09 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 17, 2021, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 11:10:06 AM
I have an interview with Michael Schenker tomorrow. Pretty excited for it!!!

Rodrigo, any chance you could ask him about not working with Doogie any more. He made some of the best music of his career with him, and I say that as a Schenker fan, not a Doogie fan.

Maybe you could phrase it like, I noticed you didn't use Doogie White again. Is there any reason you did not? Your work with him was outstanding.

Seriously, I would love to know.

I can ask! I listened to recent interviews where he said that doing the "Michael Schenker Fest" thing is difficult because of the logistics and costs involved. But it's worth clarifying!
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Post by: TAC on January 17, 2021, 11:29:22 AM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 11:20:09 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 17, 2021, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 11:10:06 AM
I have an interview with Michael Schenker tomorrow. Pretty excited for it!!!

Rodrigo, any chance you could ask him about not working with Doogie any more. He made some of the best music of his career with him, and I say that as a Schenker fan, not a Doogie fan.

Maybe you could phrase it like, I noticed you didn't use Doogie White again. Is there any reason you did not? Your work with him was outstanding.

Seriously, I would love to know.

I can ask! I listened to recent interviews where he said that doing the "Michael Schenker Fest" thing is difficult because of the logistics and costs involved. But it's worth clarifying!

So, before the 2 Michael Schenker Fest albums and tours, he made two albums with Doogie White on vocals, Bridge The Gap (2013) and Spirit On A Mission (2014). These are two of his best albums since the early classic MSG period. Doogie did sing on the 2 MS Fest albums, and those were the best songs. My point is they seemed to have a great chemistry and the output showed that.

Doogie did participate on the MS Fest tours, with the other singers. It seems that Michael wanted Ronnie Romero for this album, and I understand Romero is contracted to do the tour. Apparently Romero had quarantine issues so while waiting, Ralf Scheepers was available in Germany. While still waiting for Romero, they somehow got Joe Lynn Turner to do a couple of tracks.

Doogie was his singer up to and including the MS Fest tours. I'm just curious how/why he ended his thing with Doogie.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 11:57:58 AM: Ok, I'll ask!

Honestly, his last few albums sounded a bit formulaic to me, but I ran listening to the new one today, and enjoyed it a lot more than I expected.
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Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 02:27:46 PM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 11:10:06 AM
I have an interview with Michael Schenker tomorrow. Pretty excited for it!!!

Can you ask him how Rudolf is these days? ;D

But yeah, those two albums Tim mentioned are two of his best, it's a shame he isn't currently working with Doogie.
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Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 02:30:16 PM: I'd like to know if the MS Fest band is the way he sees his career playing out. I love the idea, but I always usually prefer a solid lineup with a single singer more than rotating singer thing, but that's a personal thing.
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Post by: TAC on January 17, 2021, 02:33:37 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 02:30:16 PM
I'd like to know if the MS Fest band is the way he sees his career playing out. I love the idea, but I always usually prefer a solid lineup with a single singer more than rotating singer thing, but that's a personal thing.

Well, Romero is supposedly doing the next tour, and was supposed to be the only singer on Immortal, which is a Michael Schenker GROUP album., not a MS Fest album.

I have no idea what he'll do next. It doesn't seem like he's slowing down, and wouldn't be surprised to see Romero fronting the next album.

But he has NEVER had a stable lineup.
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Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 03:04:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 17, 2021, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 02:30:16 PM
I'd like to know if the MS Fest band is the way he sees his career playing out. I love the idea, but I always usually prefer a solid lineup with a single singer more than rotating singer thing, but that's a personal thing.

Well, Romero is supposedly doing the next tour, and was supposed to be the only singer on Immortal, which is a Michael Schenker GROUP album., not a MS Fest album.

I have no idea what he'll do next. It doesn't seem like he's slowing down, and wouldn't be surprised to see Romero fronting the next album.

But he has NEVER had a stable lineup.

True, you just answered that then Tim. I didn't pay that much attention that this wasn't a Fest album. And Ronnie on a whole album......... :|
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Post by: bl5150 on January 17, 2021, 03:41:25 PM: Schenkerstorm
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Post by: TAC on January 17, 2021, 03:44:05 PM: :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 04:10:14 PM: Not a bad name actually.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 17, 2021, 04:59:05 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 17, 2021, 03:41:25 PM
Schenkerstorm

:clap:
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 05:27:34 PM: i was just reading the liner notes, and Doogie IS actually on the album! I didn't recognize his voice on my first listen, but he does sing there. Also Joe Lynn Turner and Ralf Scheepers. Ronnie was supposed to sing on the whole album, but Covid got in the way apparently.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 05:37:29 PM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 05:27:34 PM
i was just reading the liner notes, and Doogie IS actually on the album! I didn't recognize his voice on my first listen, but he does sing there. Also Joe Lynn Turner and Ralf Scheepers. Ronnie was supposed to sing on the whole album, but Covid got in the way apparently.

There's a re-recording of In Search of the Peace of Mind, with Gary Barden, Doogie White and Robin Macaulay sharing vocals, and Simon Phillips on drums. It's fitting that he included this version on the album - it's the first song he ever wrote, and he's celebrating 50 years of recording career.
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Post by: TAC on January 17, 2021, 05:48:29 PM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 05:37:29 PM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 05:27:34 PM
i was just reading the liner notes, and Doogie IS actually on the album! I didn't recognize his voice on my first listen, but he does sing there. Also Joe Lynn Turner and Ralf Scheepers. Ronnie was supposed to sing on the whole album, but Covid got in the way apparently.

There's a re-recording of In Search of the Peace of Mind, with Gary Barden, Doogie White and Robin Macaulay sharing vocals, and Simon Phillips on drums. It's fitting that he included this version on the album - it's the first song he ever wrote, and he's celebrating 50 years of recording career.

Yes, I do know that Doogie is on that song, as are a number of singers.
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Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 05:56:20 PM: Yeah, sucks he doesn't get his own song or two.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 17, 2021, 07:36:05 PM: I don't know where else on the forum to post this, so here it is - my interview with Wolf Hoffman of Accept, to promote their new album: https://youtu.be/OH-ibt04vek
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Post by: TAC on January 17, 2021, 07:38:01 PM: This is the perfect place to post it.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 20, 2021, 07:12:57 AM: Interview with Joel Hoekstra of Whitesnake, about his upcoming album with Russell Allen, Derek Sherinian, Vinnie Appice and Tony Franklin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6k2a1aTKc0
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Post by: TAC on January 20, 2021, 07:15:21 AM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 20, 2021, 07:12:57 AM
Interview with Joel Hoekstra of Whitesnake, about his upcoming album with Russell Allen, Derek Sherinian, Vinnie Appice and Tony Franklin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6k2a1aTKc0

Which I'm sure will be disappointing as hell.

How'd the Schenker interview go?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 20, 2021, 07:23:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 20, 2021, 07:15:21 AM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 20, 2021, 07:12:57 AM
Interview with Joel Hoekstra of Whitesnake, about his upcoming album with Russell Allen, Derek Sherinian, Vinnie Appice and Tony Franklin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6k2a1aTKc0

Which I'm sure will be disappointing as hell.

How'd the Schenker interview go?

Joel's album is KILLER, man. Pure 80's hard rock.

Schenker was confusing...I called him MANY times, and when he finally picked it up, he said Niclear Blast messed up his whole schedule. We rescheduled the chat for tomorrow, and now I have a conflict. Stupid work getting in the way of having fun with these musicians!!!! :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 21, 2021, 11:10:34 AM: so the chat with Schenker finally happened...he was great, and very talkative! I asked him three questions and he just took off speaking about the new album. He briefly mentioned Rush at the end, and also Ozzy, Aerosmith, Metallica etc. He bashed his brother Rudolf as usual, with some cheap punches about him not being able to write songs. Look at this compliment barely disguised as criticism: "I'm happy for him - for all his limitations, he is extremely successful!"
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2021, 01:39:41 PM: :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 21, 2021, 02:10:13 PM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 21, 2021, 11:10:34 AM
so the chat with Schenker finally happened...he was great, and very talkative! I asked him three questions and he just took off speaking about the new album. He briefly mentioned Rush at the end, and also Ozzy, Aerosmith, Metallica etc. He bashed his brother Rudolf as usual, with some cheap punches about him not being able to write songs. Look at this compliment barely disguised as criticism: "I'm happy for him - for all his limitations, he is extremely successful!"

Talk about a backhanded compliment. That's like saying "Yngvie doesn't sweat much for a fat guy"
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2021, 02:13:18 PM: Schenker slams him every interview. It's certainly not an anomaly.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 21, 2021, 02:17:42 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 21, 2021, 02:10:13 PM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 21, 2021, 11:10:34 AM
so the chat with Schenker finally happened...he was great, and very talkative! I asked him three questions and he just took off speaking about the new album. He briefly mentioned Rush at the end, and also Ozzy, Aerosmith, Metallica etc. He bashed his brother Rudolf as usual, with some cheap punches about him not being able to write songs. Look at this compliment barely disguised as criticism: "I'm happy for him - for all his limitations, he is extremely successful!"

Talk about a backhanded compliment. That's like saying "Yngvie doesn't sweat much for a fat guy"

Man...I asked him this: "after 50 years of recording career and almost as many albums, would you consider writing a biography?". Then he went off on his usual rant against his brother, why he refused invitations to join Ozzy's band, Aerosmith, Deep Purple etc. For a guy who went through rehab, he does have some unresolved issues!!!
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2021, 03:18:47 PM: I'm well aware of the sexual tension between Kade and Issa in the shitcock thread, but I don't recall female classic rock singers being mentioned in this thread much at all. Lee Aaron, Darby Mills (Headpins) are standouts in Canada. But top three for me would have to be Stevie Nicks, Heart, but the clear top pick for me would have to be Pat Benatar.

Blondie is pretty cool too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2021, 04:40:54 PM: Yeah, Ann Wilson takes the prize for me as best ever female rock vocalist.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 23, 2021, 11:41:23 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 23, 2021, 04:40:54 PM
Yeah, Ann Wilson takes the prize for me as best ever female rock vocalist.

One of the only ones that does great renditions of Led Zeppelin songs. Her vocals, and Hearts music, made Robert Plant tear up when they played Stairway to Heaven.
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Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 03:15:53 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2021, 03:18:47 PM
I'm well aware of the sexual tension between Kade and Issa in the shitcock thread, but I don't recall female classic rock singers being mentioned in this thread much at all. Lee Aaron, Darby Mills (Headpins) are standouts in Canada. But top three for me would have to be Stevie Nicks, Heart, but the clear top pick for me would have to be Pat Benatar.

Blondie is pretty cool too.

Jason, don't say her name in here. You know better than that.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2021, 09:38:48 AM: :rollin
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2021, 10:26:51 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 03:15:53 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2021, 03:18:47 PM
I'm well aware of the sexual tension between Kade and Issa in the shitcock thread, but I don't recall female classic rock singers being mentioned in this thread much at all. Lee Aaron, Darby Mills (Headpins) are standouts in Canada. But top three for me would have to be Stevie Nicks, Heart, but the clear top pick for me would have to be Pat Benatar.

Blondie is pretty cool too.

Jason, don't say her name in here. You know better than that.

What's wrong with Lee Aaron!?!?!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 12:36:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 24, 2021, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 03:15:53 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 23, 2021, 03:18:47 PM
I'm well aware of the sexual tension between Kade and Issa in the shitcock thread, but I don't recall female classic rock singers being mentioned in this thread much at all. Lee Aaron, Darby Mills (Headpins) are standouts in Canada. But top three for me would have to be Stevie Nicks, Heart, but the clear top pick for me would have to be Pat Benatar.

Blondie is pretty cool too.

Jason, don't say her name in here. You know better than that.

What's wrong with Lee Aaron!?!?!

I don't even know who that is lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on January 24, 2021, 03:13:46 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 23, 2021, 04:40:54 PM
Yeah, Ann Wilson takes the prize for me as best ever female rock vocalist.

Me too. Don't laugh, but I think she's hot too. There's something I find sexy about her.

Anyone that doesn't think she is a good call here: https://youtu.be/ZH9khvoSk48 or any of the latter-day versions of "Alone" where they do it acoustic or stripped down.

Also, can't not mention Johnette Napolitano; the music may not be your cup of tea, but the woman can sing.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 27, 2021, 08:44:40 AM: Schenker interview: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/interviews/interview-with-schenker-michael/
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Post by: ozzy554 on January 28, 2021, 04:43:42 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAk4Z3sX0F4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAk4Z3sX0F4)

On the 4th Anniversary of his death someone posted a demo of Heaven and Hell featuring Geoff Nicholls on bass. It's an Interesting listen and I wonder if more demos like this will be posted.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 02, 2021, 11:32:08 AM: Hi all. Just dropping in to say hi. Been in hospital 9 days with COVID. Back home now so I’ll have a catch up with the posts tomorrow. Missed you fuckers!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2021, 11:43:24 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 02, 2021, 11:32:08 AM
Hi all. Just dropping in to say hi. Been in hospital 9 days with COVID. Back home now so I’ll have a catch up with the posts tomorrow. Missed you fuckers!

Oh Shit! Glad you made it out! How are you feeling? Do you know how you caught it?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 02, 2021, 11:54:59 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 02, 2021, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 02, 2021, 11:32:08 AM
Hi all. Just dropping in to say hi. Been in hospital 9 days with COVID. Back home now so I’ll have a catch up with the posts tomorrow. Missed you fuckers!

Oh Shit! Glad you made it out! How are you feeling? Do you know how you caught it?

Caught it at work, probably a day or two before I had the vaccine.

I’m good now but the last two weeks have been hell. I ot the gastroenteritis version rather than the breathing - though if I walked two paces I was wheezing like an asthmatic.

Glad to be home. I had no headphones or phone charger with me so couldn’t even listen to music once I felt better.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2021, 12:07:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 02, 2021, 11:54:59 AM
I had no headphones or phone charger with me so couldn’t even listen to music once I felt better.

Oh NO!

I may have to pack a Covid bag just in case!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2021, 12:49:37 PM: Holy shit Paul. After your troubles you certainly didn't deserve that. Too scary. Glad you are okay.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 02, 2021, 01:34:22 PM: Wtf? Glad you're feeling better. And hopefully you will fully recover. All the best to you.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 02, 2021, 02:14:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 02, 2021, 12:49:37 PM
Holy shit Paul. After your troubles you certainly didn't deserve that. Too scary. Glad you are okay.

This so much.

Phew.

Seriously. No more cool kids getting this, ok??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 04, 2021, 04:06:02 AM: All the best Paul - hopefully no lingering effects.

New Sweet Oblivion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV2-XJ5aOxk&feature=youtu.be

The sound is decent enough and Tater sounds okay - the song sounds pretty much like you'd expect I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 04, 2021, 04:21:26 AM: Meh. It's solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 05, 2021, 08:16:18 PM: New album by Warrior Path in out on March 5, featuring DANIEL HEIMAN on vocals! :metal

Beast Of Hate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8kwDpYVXIM)
Savage Tribe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dWWm0XLKv0)

This band is not to be confused with Lost Horizon, but at least Heiman is able to SING in this band. Some of the things he's done have really restricted him. He seems to be letting loose here. I am all over this when it comes out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2021, 08:27:41 PM: Fuck Daniel Heiman! Will check later.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 05, 2021, 08:57:13 PM: https://youtu.be/iZdMQmdLHaA?t=1
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on February 05, 2021, 09:20:48 PM: I hope it's just the YT compression and poor quality MP3 uploaded, as it sounds bloody awful, very amateurish.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2021, 06:48:05 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 05, 2021, 08:27:41 PM
Fuck Daniel Heiman! Will check later.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2021, 08:20:58 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 04, 2021, 04:06:02 AM
All the best Paul - hopefully no lingering effects.

New Sweet Oblivion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV2-XJ5aOxk&feature=youtu.be

The sound is decent enough and Tater sounds okay - the song sounds pretty much like you'd expect I guess.

It was ok but I thought Tate’s vocal was buried under the music. Might just have been my tv.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2021, 08:32:48 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 04, 2021, 04:06:02 AM
All the best Paul - hopefully no lingering effects.

New Sweet Oblivion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV2-XJ5aOxk&feature=youtu.be

The sound is decent enough and Tater sounds okay - the song sounds pretty much like you'd expect I guess.

I might spin it when the album drops, but the first one was entirely forgetable.

Quote from: TAC on February 05, 2021, 08:16:18 PM
New album by Warrior Path in out on March 5, featuring DANIEL HEIMAN on vocals! :metal

Beast Of Hate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8kwDpYVXIM)
Savage Tribe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dWWm0XLKv0)

I'll check this out when it drops, but am very surprised you like this Tim. Heiman's vocals notwithstanding, Savage Tribe was pretty decent; Beast of Hate was some solid suckage.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2021, 01:45:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 05, 2021, 08:16:18 PM
New album by Warrior Path in out on March 5, featuring DANIEL HEIMAN on vocals! :metal

Beast Of Hate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8kwDpYVXIM)
Savage Tribe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dWWm0XLKv0)

This band is not to be confused with Lost Horizon, but at least Heiman is able to SING in this band. Some of the things he's done have really restricted him. He seems to be letting loose here. I am all over this when it comes out.

Pretty generic sounding but saying that, I actually really liked these. Has Bob Katsionis who was in Firewind too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2021, 04:00:50 PM: I did say they were not to be confused with Lost Horizon. Musically it's good enough for me, and the vocalist lifts it for me big time. If I didn't have a reason to listen to Warrior Path, I certainly wouldn't.

But Daniel Heiman! Fuck yeah! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2021, 05:46:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2021, 04:00:50 PM
I did say they were not to be confused with Lost Horizon. Musically it's good enough for me, and the vocalist lifts it for me big time. If I didn't have a reason to listen to Warrior Path, I certainly wouldn't.

But Daniel Heiman! Fuck yeah! :metal

:lol Great point. Can't argue with that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2021, 08:50:54 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/vio-lence-tyketto-u-d-o-bonfire-jaded-heart-members-cover-scorpions-classic-blackout-video

So I must admit, there's been so many quarantine covers this year, I generally roll my eyes and pass. But seeing this had (Waysted's) Danny Vaughn (with gray hair!!!), I was interested in how he sounds, and I have to say, I enjoyed this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on February 09, 2021, 05:55:34 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2021, 08:50:54 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/vio-lence-tyketto-u-d-o-bonfire-jaded-heart-members-cover-scorpions-classic-blackout-video

So I must admit, there's been so many quarantine covers this year, I generally roll my eyes and pass. But seeing this had (Waysted's) Danny Vaughn (with gray hair!!!), I was interested in how he sounds, and I have to say, I enjoyed this.

That was actually way better than the original, even though they tried to keep it close. The bass and drums were very tight, the guitar playing was way better (sorry, I find Rudy loose and Mattias uninspired), and the singer has Klaus' range without the Germenglish. Would listen again.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on February 09, 2021, 08:13:05 AM: I already posted this in another thread, and i know this is a small community, but I'll put this one here anyway - an interview I did with Eric martin from Mr. Big:

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/interviews/interview-with-eric-martin/?fbclid=IwAR3sw_jRBUuRx1-J5_aaqvc4I681UA38krlGfD73sMeemLoL6sBP-10X9VE
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 09, 2021, 12:18:40 PM: I quite liked those Warrior Path songs. always good to hear Daniel.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on February 12, 2021, 04:02:49 PM: Wasn't sure where to put this one, but the very talented Jari Lindholm (Enshine, Atoma, Seas Of Years and Exgenesis) new album is available to stream on YT for free or buy from Bandcamp:
https://youtu.be/hH-KVkexFvI
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2021, 03:02:09 PM: As we slipped to page 2 I thought I’d share the Temple Balls (yes really) video. I like it. Straight forward 80s hard rock. Nothing new but I enjoyed it. It’s Frontiers too.

https://youtu.be/GsyAsTJwoWY
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2021, 08:06:45 PM: What were they smoking when they came up with that name?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2021, 08:10:12 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2021, 08:06:45 PM
What were they smoking when they came up with that name?

Maybe Church Nads was taken.

Paul, WTF? We're glad to have you back and all, but man, is this what happens after Covid? God, get me the vaccine!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2021, 08:33:58 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 16, 2021, 08:10:12 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2021, 08:06:45 PM
What were they smoking when they came up with that name?

Maybe Church Nads was taken.

Paul, WTF? We're glad to have you back and all, but man, is this what happens after Covid? God, get me the vaccine!

You’ve moved on to harder stuff - I appreciate that, but I just thought it was a decent hard rock song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2021, 09:12:49 AM: Just bustin' Paul. :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2021, 01:37:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2021, 09:12:49 AM
Just bustin' Paul. :)

Quite appropriate really.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 17, 2021, 01:42:12 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 17, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 16, 2021, 08:10:12 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 16, 2021, 08:06:45 PM
What were they smoking when they came up with that name?

Maybe Church Nads was taken.

Paul, WTF? We're glad to have you back and all, but man, is this what happens after Covid? God, get me the vaccine!

You’ve moved on to harder stuff - I appreciate that, but I just thought it was a decent hard rock song.

Better than most stuff on Frontiers nowadays, I'll grant it that. Caught the video out of the corner of my eye a couple times... dear lord :lolpalm: This is some nice modern-day hair-metal. I'm down with it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2021, 01:52:42 PM: Meh, it was okay. Has a Crazy Lixx feel to it, which is cool.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2021, 02:11:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 17, 2021, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2021, 09:12:49 AM
Just bustin' Paul. :)

Quite appropriate really.

:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2021, 03:30:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 17, 2021, 01:52:42 PM
Meh, it was okay. Has a Crazy Lixx feel to it, which is cool.

That's who I thought of too.

New album on the way Tim :metal

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLU2_4WntuW/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 27, 2021, 05:55:29 AM: Don't mind this at all................pretty straight foward but those who like early Lynch Mob should dig this. Guitar solo could probably be cut in half but glad to hear Lynch go back to this style.

https://youtu.be/Ts2mJ2JPyek
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2021, 06:10:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 18, 2021, 03:30:29 AM
New album on the way Tim :metal

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLU2_4WntuW/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again

I missed this when you posted this last week, Brent.

Dammit Brent!
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 27, 2021, 07:44:54 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 27, 2021, 05:55:29 AM
Don't mind this at all................pretty straight foward but those who like early Lynch Mob should dig this. Guitar solo could probably be cut in half but glad to hear Lynch go back to this style.

https://youtu.be/Ts2mJ2JPyek

In how many bands & projects is Lynch involved at the moment? Seems like there's a new one every other month.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 27, 2021, 08:15:15 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 27, 2021, 05:55:29 AM
Don't mind this at all................pretty straight foward but those who like early Lynch Mob should dig this. Guitar solo could probably be cut in half but glad to hear Lynch go back to this style.

https://youtu.be/Ts2mJ2JPyek

Said no one ever when George is playing 😁😁😁

The only thing missing is a BFTA tone on the rhythm guitars. I don’t like this cleanish tone he’s using these days. Crank those amps George :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on February 28, 2021, 10:29:43 PM: I couldn't find the Kiss Thread (I thought we had one) so I am posting this here...

I was going through my many live vids on my phone, and found a pretty decent one of Kiss performing Love Gun, with Paul on the center stage. I had seats that were pretty close, so I filmed these two songs.

Kiss - Love Gun (https://youtu.be/Z3E7AKVufus)
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 02, 2021, 10:54:11 PM: Is that objective or subjective?
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Post by: gazinwales on March 06, 2021, 05:04:23 AM: Nice cover from Avatarium of 'Here Comes The Rain Again'
https://youtu.be/xQRHqnNmrxk
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2021, 03:23:09 PM: https://youtu.be/4k7glR8pXBQ

New Herman Frank. Not played it yet so don’t know if it’s any good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2021, 07:34:15 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 07, 2021, 03:23:09 PM
https://youtu.be/4k7glR8pXBQ

New Herman Frank. Not played it yet so don’t know if it’s any good.

Spun it on Friday - it was in my new release feed. Not bad. Wasn't anything special.
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2021, 08:23:07 PM: So it's solid. Noted.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: WildRanger on March 09, 2021, 03:12:00 PM: Today I've listened these two Tesla records and they really rock:

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fb%2Fb3%2FTesla_Mechanicalresonance.jpg&hash=ffa49c044c39641b94112d6d7c0d5e23d8ff5bf6)

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F2%2F2e%2FTesla_The_Great_Radio.jpg&hash=92b45ac69beabaa596c1c60a1683e3cc55f7fc36)

And I don't consider them to be glam/hair metal.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 09, 2021, 03:13:10 PM: Great albums. I’d throw Psychotic Supper in there too. And yes, not hair metal.
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Post by: TAC on March 09, 2021, 03:33:25 PM: I had this conversation with Chad, and I have no recollection of Hair Metal being referred to has Glam. To me, Glam was in the 70's with Slade/Sweet/T Rex.

Tesla was definitely not a Hair Metal band, despite multiple tours with Poison. They were a 70's band with an 80's production. Great band!
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Post by: EPICVIEW on March 09, 2021, 07:45:35 PM: Lucy Im Home............

this thread delivers
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Post by: TAC on March 09, 2021, 08:32:24 PM: So this video popped up on my youtube feed.

It's Dave Lombardo playing with Suicidal. It's drum cam footage of Trip At The Brain. I played the shit out of this song back in the day. This is an amazing performance by Dave and the band.
https://youtu.be/CbTrussm0CQ
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2021, 08:51:20 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 09, 2021, 08:32:24 PM
So this video popped up on my youtube feed.

It's Dave Lombardo playing with Suicidal. It's drum cam footage of Trip At The Brain. I played the shit out of this song back in the day. This is an amazing performance by Dave and the band.
https://youtu.be/CbTrussm0CQ

I never was a huge fan but I do remember the music video to this song pretty vividly :)
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Post by: TAC on March 09, 2021, 08:55:12 PM: My college roommate was a fan. I was definitely not but I really took to Trip.

The performance with Lombardo is fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on March 10, 2021, 12:45:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 09, 2021, 03:33:25 PM
I had this conversation with Chad, and I have no recollection of Hair Metal being referred to has Glam. To me, Glam was in the 70's with Slade/Sweet/T Rex.

Tesla was definitely not a Hair Metal band, despite multiple tours with Poison. They were a 70's band with an 80's production. Great band!

It certainly wasn’t referred to as hair metal in the day. Some bands were called glam metal, such as Pretty Boy Floyd but it was all just hard rock and metal.

Mid eighties the only genres were metal and thrash as far as I remember.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 02:20:49 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 10, 2021, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 09, 2021, 03:33:25 PM
I had this conversation with Chad, and I have no recollection of Hair Metal being referred to has Glam. To me, Glam was in the 70's with Slade/Sweet/T Rex.

Tesla was definitely not a Hair Metal band, despite multiple tours with Poison. They were a 70's band with an 80's production. Great band!

It certainly wasn’t referred to as hair metal in the day. Some bands were called glam metal, such as Pretty Boy Floyd but it was all just hard rock and metal.

Mid eighties the only genres were metal and thrash as far as I remember.

A lot of bands in '86-'88 went "glam" - especially for their first couple albums. Poison and Warrant would be the best examples I can think of. I mean, if the cover of Look What The Cat Dragged In doesn't scream GLAM, I don't know what does.

Around here, the moniker of Glam Metal and Hair Metal were largely interchangeable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 10, 2021, 02:34:19 PM: I never referred to any of the big hair bands as "glam metal" ,"metal" as to me they were just hard rock. Might've used "hair band" perhaps. One possible exception being Tigertailz - to me they were both a hair band/glam and metal.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 02:44:28 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 10, 2021, 02:34:19 PM
I never referred to any of the big hair bands as "glam metal" ,"metal" as to me they were just hard rock. Might've used "hair band" perhaps. One possible exception being Tigertailz - to me they were both a hair band/glam and metal.

Ohh... might have to check them out. Never heard of 'em (leave it to Brent to drop a band I've never even heard of).

But like I said, if this doesn't scream GLAM, I'm at a loss.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Poison-Look-What-the-Cat-Dragged-In.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on March 10, 2021, 02:57:36 PM: I agree Chad ..............my post was all about the term "metal". I never got the idea of bands like Jovi , Warrant, Poison being metal and "glam hard rock" never worked ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 04:12:55 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 10, 2021, 02:57:36 PM
I agree Chad ..............my post was all about the term "metal". I never got the idea of bands like Jovi , Warrant, Poison being metal and "glam hard rock" never worked ;D

Ahh... gotchya. And I agree.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 10, 2021, 05:07:12 PM: Tim (and possibly others) will probably tear shreds off me for this but when I was a kid I loved Tigertailz's glammed up version of Metallica's Creeping Death .....in fact it might've been the first version of the song I heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cp_GXO64fE
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 10, 2021, 06:00:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 02:20:49 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 10, 2021, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 09, 2021, 03:33:25 PM
I had this conversation with Chad, and I have no recollection of Hair Metal being referred to has Glam. To me, Glam was in the 70's with Slade/Sweet/T Rex.

Tesla was definitely not a Hair Metal band, despite multiple tours with Poison. They were a 70's band with an 80's production. Great band!

It certainly wasn’t referred to as hair metal in the day. Some bands were called glam metal, such as Pretty Boy Floyd but it was all just hard rock and metal.

Mid eighties the only genres were metal and thrash as far as I remember.

A lot of bands in '86-'88 went "glam" - especially for their first couple albums. Poison and Warrant would be the best examples I can think of. I mean, if the cover of Look What The Cat Dragged In doesn't scream GLAM, I don't know what does.

Around here, the moniker of Glam Metal and Hair Metal were largely interchangeable.

@ Paul..I absolutely remember the term Hair Metal in the 80's.

@ Chad..Yeah I guess they are as it probably depended on where in the world you were at the time.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 11, 2021, 12:09:59 AM: In the late 80s in Germany "Hair Metal" definitely was a term, and like you I thought that calling it metal was stupid. Metal was Metallica, Iron Maiden, Slayer. Until recently I never heard the term "Glam Metal" associated with Bon Jovi, Poison and the likes. I only know Glam Rock from the 70s.

And yeah, that cover screams "glam" but it also screams "hair" (and a lot of hairspray ;))

PS: Tesla was awesome :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2021, 12:16:12 AM: Tesla are absolute nobodies out here in Australia which is a shame - would've struggled to fill a pub out here with us diehards at their peak in the US.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 11, 2021, 03:55:22 AM: I always thought it was assumed that the "metal" moniker attached to Hair and Glam was absolutely tongue in cheek. They might as well had the label Fake Metal. It wasn't 'real' metal like Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Priest, Sabbath etc ...
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Post by: Evermind on March 11, 2021, 10:42:01 AM: New Helloween you guys! From their FB:

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This is the beginning of something big – here comes "HELLOWEEN". The self-titled new album will be released June 18th, 2021.

Tracklist (there was a pic but FB won't let me embed it in the post):

Out for the Glory
Fear of the Fallen
Best Time
Mass Pollution
Angels
Rise Without Chains
Indestructable
Robot King
Cyanide
Down in the Dumps
Orbit
Skyfall
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 12, 2021, 01:00:42 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 11, 2021, 03:55:22 AM
I always thought it was assumed that the "metal" moniker attached to Hair and Glam was absolutely tongue in cheek. They might as well had the label Fake Metal. It wasn't 'real' metal like Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Priest, Sabbath etc ...

Could be. But those hair/glam bands never claimed they did metal, so why attach a false label to them and then call it fake?

Btw: As we all know the only true metal is Manowar :biggrin: The rest are whimps and posers.
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2021, 04:29:37 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 12, 2021, 01:00:42 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 11, 2021, 03:55:22 AM
I always thought it was assumed that the "metal" moniker attached to Hair and Glam was absolutely tongue in cheek. They might as well had the label Fake Metal. It wasn't 'real' metal like Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Priest, Sabbath etc ...

Could be. But those hair/glam bands never claimed they did metal, so why attach a false label to them and then call it fake?

Btw: As we all know the only true metal is Manowar :biggrin: The rest are whimps and posers.

If you're not into metal, you are not my friend!
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Post by: Lowdz on March 12, 2021, 03:23:29 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 02:44:28 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 10, 2021, 02:34:19 PM
I never referred to any of the big hair bands as "glam metal" ,"metal" as to me they were just hard rock. Might've used "hair band" perhaps. One possible exception being Tigertailz - to me they were both a hair band/glam and metal.

Ohh... might have to check them out. Never heard of 'em (leave it to Brent to drop a band I've never even heard of).

But like I said, if this doesn't scream GLAM, I'm at a loss.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Poison-Look-What-the-Cat-Dragged-In.jpg)

Tygdrtailz were pretty shit. Their second album was ok, I have that one.

And Tim, maybe it was a USA thing then. It wasn’t in use in the uk.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 12, 2021, 03:25:33 PM: New Sweet Oblivion track. I really like it. Tate is a bit back in the mix like the last track. Definite QR vibes which is a good thing.

https://youtu.be/tlpHNGDva5Q
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2021, 03:52:25 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 12, 2021, 03:25:33 PM
New Sweet Oblivion track. I really like it. Tate is a bit back in the mix like the last track. Definite QR vibes which is a good thing.

https://youtu.be/tlpHNGDva5Q

Eh, it's better than the first song. Solid.
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Post by: TAC on March 12, 2021, 03:56:42 PM: I definitely remember Tigertailz, and the moment I looked at them was the moment that Hair Metal jumped the shark.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2021, 07:39:32 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 12, 2021, 03:25:33 PM
New Sweet Oblivion track. I really like it. Tate is a bit back in the mix like the last track. Definite QR vibes which is a good thing.

https://youtu.be/tlpHNGDva5Q

The body of the song is okay but that "3 power chord" intro is one of the most unimaginative riffs I have ever heard...........sounds like something a 10 year old came up with.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 13, 2021, 12:19:36 AM: I’m surprised he didn’t tell you but Ben wrote that riff. I think he did a decent job actually.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 13, 2021, 06:53:07 AM: That Sweet Oblivion track showed up in my Spotify release playlist. Solid is an apt description. I'll spin the album when it drops, but have relatively low expectations. The first album was so emotionless... Tater was clearly just going thru the motions. The follow up stories certainly didn't make me want to go back and give 'er another listen.
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Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2021, 12:49:14 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 13, 2021, 06:53:07 AM
That Sweet Oblivion track showed up in my Spotify release playlist. Solid is an apt description. I'll spin the album when it drops, but have relatively low expectations. The first album was so emotionless... Tater was clearly just going thru the motions. The follow up stories certainly didn't make me want to go back and give 'er another listen.

Despite the turmoil in relation to the first album, I thought it was pretty good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 13, 2021, 01:58:03 PM: It’s good but just needs to be turned up a notch or two (3) for me to visualize it as a true QR reunion (I’m sure everyone knows and understands)
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Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2021, 04:28:17 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 13, 2021, 12:19:36 AM
I’m surprised he didn’t tell you but Ben wrote that riff. I think he did a decent job actually.

;D
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Post by: KevShmev on March 13, 2021, 05:26:56 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 13, 2021, 01:58:03 PM
It’s good but just needs to be turned up a notch or two (3) for me to visualize it as a true QR reunion (I’m sure everyone knows and understands)

Turned up to 11, yep, we get it. :P
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Post by: cfmoran13 on March 13, 2021, 08:34:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 11, 2021, 12:16:12 AM
Tesla are absolute nobodies out here in Australia which is a shame - would've struggled to fill a pub out here with us diehards at their peak in the US.
Just curious, has Tesla ever toured Australia? Seems like it would've been an extremely long and expensive flight to try and win over a new audience. Absolute shame, too.

Fantastic band that should've either brought back Tommy Skeoch (never would've happened) or stopped writing new material after he left. They've been stuck in mid-tempo purgatory ever since he left. It's like they've forgotten how to write a rocker.
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Post by: TAC on March 13, 2021, 08:37:40 PM: I never really took to Into The Now, but I thought Forever More was pretty good. I thought I sampled a new album and remembering it sucking a couple of years ago.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on March 13, 2021, 08:43:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 13, 2021, 08:37:40 PM
I never really took to Into The Now, but I thought Forever More was pretty good. I thought I sampled a new album and remembering it sucking a couple of years ago.
That probably would've been the Phil Collen-produced 'Shock'. It's the only Tesla album I don't own.
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Post by: TAC on March 13, 2021, 08:48:56 PM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on March 13, 2021, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 13, 2021, 08:37:40 PM
I never really took to Into The Now, but I thought Forever More was pretty good. I thought I sampled a new album and remembering it sucking a couple of years ago.
That probably would've been the Phil Collen-produced 'Shock'. It's the only Tesla album I don't own.

Yeah that's the one. WTF is that??

I freaking loved Tesla back in the day and saw them a bunch of times between 1987-1994.
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Post by: cfmoran13 on March 13, 2021, 09:10:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 13, 2021, 08:48:56 PM
Quote from: cfmoran13 on March 13, 2021, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 13, 2021, 08:37:40 PM
I never really took to Into The Now, but I thought Forever More was pretty good. I thought I sampled a new album and remembering it sucking a couple of years ago.
That probably would've been the Phil Collen-produced 'Shock'. It's the only Tesla album I don't own.

Yeah that's the one. WTF is that??

I freaking loved Tesla back in the day and saw them a bunch of times between 1987-1994.

It's called garbage! There are plenty of bands who could benefit from the direction of a child of Mutt Lange. However, while the Tesla train might've been broken for a little while, that's not what it needed to be fixed.

I got to see them on the Mechanical Resonance tour, opening up Def Leppard's Hysteria show. They were fantastic. I was also lucky enough to see them as a 4-piece, touring their Time's Makin' Changes greatest hits album. A very cool and unique show, for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2021, 10:32:57 PM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on March 13, 2021, 08:34:47 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on March 11, 2021, 12:16:12 AM
Tesla are absolute nobodies out here in Australia which is a shame - would've struggled to fill a pub out here with us diehards at their peak in the US.
Just curious, has Tesla ever toured Australia? Seems like it would've been an extremely long and expensive flight to try and win over a new audience. Absolute shame, too.

Fantastic band that should've either brought back Tommy Skeoch (never would've happened) or stopped writing new material after he left. They've been stuck in mid-tempo purgatory ever since he left. It's like they've forgotten how to write a rocker.

After a bit of research it looks like Tesla were out here in 2007 playing a small venue. I didn't go so either I wasn't aware or had something else on. I almost certainly would've tried to catch them , even though I wasn't a massive fan of Into The Now.

That's the thing these days ...........bands could come out and play a small pub gig and unless you're moving around the city or checking gig guides ( I don't do either these days) they might just come and go without fans noticing.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 14, 2021, 06:19:56 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 13, 2021, 08:48:56 PM
Quote from: cfmoran13 on March 13, 2021, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 13, 2021, 08:37:40 PM
I never really took to Into The Now, but I thought Forever More was pretty good. I thought I sampled a new album and remembering it sucking a couple of years ago.
That probably would've been the Phil Collen-produced 'Shock'. It's the only Tesla album I don't own.

Yeah that's the one. WTF is that??

I freaking loved Tesla back in the day and saw them a bunch of times between 1987-1994.

They were so good back then.

Since they came back I haven’t really liked anything they’ve done. That last album was poor. The one before I think I liked on first listen but JK’s voice sounded like a duck quacking.
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Post by: TAC on March 14, 2021, 03:11:03 PM: Quote from: cfmoran13 on March 13, 2021, 09:10:37 PM

I got to see them on the Mechanical Resonance tour, opening up Def Leppard's Hysteria show. They were fantastic. I was also lucky enough to see them as a 4-piece, touring their Time's Makin' Changes greatest hits album. A very cool and unique show, for sure.

I also saw them open for Def Leppard on the Mechanical Resonance tour. But I also saw them 9 months earlier opening for David Lee Roth.

I saw them as a 4 piece too on the Bust A Nut tour.
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Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2021, 03:53:20 PM: I picked up a couple of Tesla records second hand a few years back after Chad pimped them in a roulette. I really couldn't get into them at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on March 15, 2021, 09:18:42 AM: New Orden Ogan album is pretty solid. Very similar to Gunman but a bit more consistent IMO. Solid power metal from start to finish :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2021, 06:12:33 AM: Sad to hear of the passing of Gerri Miller - the driving force behind Metal Edge magazine. Those of us who remember the times when magazines were IT in terms of keeping informed (particularly in Australia where everyone bar the absolute biggest bands were largely invisible) will likely remember Gerri to some degree.

R.I.P.
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Post by: gazinwales on March 26, 2021, 03:54:32 PM: Esa Holopainen - Storm
https://youtu.be/wTQBfqxi4cc
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 26, 2021, 03:57:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 16, 2021, 06:12:33 AM
Sad to hear of the passing of Gerri Miller - the driving force behind Metal Edge magazine. Those of us who remember the times when magazines were IT in terms of keeping informed (particularly in Australia where everyone bar the absolute biggest bands were largely invisible) will likely remember Gerri to some degree.

R.I.P.

I meant to comment on this. I'll be honest, I never really bothered with Metal Edge. Seemed like it exploded in the late 80's, but it never really compared to Kerrang.
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Post by: TAC on March 26, 2021, 07:33:22 PM: Where have these been my whole life?

https://bravewords.com/news/thin-lizzy-megadeth-coloring-books-available-for-preorder
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Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2021, 09:25:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 26, 2021, 07:33:22 PM
Where have these been my whole life?

https://bravewords.com/news/thin-lizzy-megadeth-coloring-books-available-for-preorder

Lol, how odd.
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Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2021, 09:26:51 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on March 26, 2021, 03:54:32 PM
Esa Holopainen - Storm
https://youtu.be/wTQBfqxi4cc

Check this lads, it's nice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2021, 04:31:05 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 26, 2021, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on March 26, 2021, 03:54:32 PM
Esa Holopainen - Storm
https://youtu.be/wTQBfqxi4cc
Check this lads, it's nice.

That's Gregg's doppelgänger, for sure.

Nice track.
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Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2021, 04:38:45 AM: :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on March 27, 2021, 11:08:59 AM: Guitar player standing on a mountain top is so 80s ;D or is this because of social distancing?
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Post by: gazinwales on March 27, 2021, 12:13:05 PM: Esa is actually standing in front of a green screen in Helsinki.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 27, 2021, 04:50:50 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 27, 2021, 04:31:05 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 26, 2021, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on March 26, 2021, 03:54:32 PM
Esa Holopainen - Storm
https://youtu.be/wTQBfqxi4cc
Check this lads, it's nice.

That's Gregg's doppelgänger, for sure.

That video came up on my youtube feed and I was like Holy Shit It's Poddaar!!
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2021, 04:34:57 AM: Outstanding.
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Post by: Grappler on March 29, 2021, 05:28:47 AM: That was cool - who was singing? All I can find is that he used different musicians, but they haven't named any yet.

Edit - read the Youtube comments (I never read those) and saw the singer's name. Kind of cool to see a non-metal singer involved.
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2021, 05:32:24 AM: I've spun it a few times. It's a wonderful song.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 29, 2021, 11:34:28 AM: It was ok but not really my thing. Guitar playing was nice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2021, 04:56:40 AM: New Marty Friedman - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaKcidunByA

Dat's some hot shit. They've released 3 singles actually. Got my eye for this one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2021, 05:37:01 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 05, 2021, 04:56:40 AM
New Marty Friedman - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaKcidunByA

Dat's some hot shit. They've released 3 singles actually. Got my eye for this one.

I haven't followed him for a while. Get a real Steve Vai vibe from that track truthfully. Not bad.
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Post by: TAC on April 05, 2021, 04:33:22 PM: Not sure where to put this but..

https://bravewords.com/news/charlie-benante-and-friends-to-release-ep-of-rush-covers-for-november-record-store-day-subdivisions-performance-video-streaming

Charlie has a Rush Covers EP, but the article states that he's releases all of the tracks from his quarantine covers as a full length album....for charity.

Charlie is tha man!
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Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2021, 06:17:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2021, 05:37:01 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on April 05, 2021, 04:56:40 AM
New Marty Friedman - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaKcidunByA

Dat's some hot shit. They've released 3 singles actually. Got my eye for this one.

I haven't followed him for a while. Get a real Steve Vai vibe from that track truthfully. Not bad.

I preferred his new age albums to the METAL overload he's gone for in recent years, but I like these J-pop covers he does. Hes a hell of a player but I can't watch him play. That picking stroke is just too weird
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2021, 02:07:41 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 06, 2021, 06:17:55 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2021, 05:37:01 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on April 05, 2021, 04:56:40 AM
New Marty Friedman - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaKcidunByA

Dat's some hot shit. They've released 3 singles actually. Got my eye for this one.

I haven't followed him for a while. Get a real Steve Vai vibe from that track truthfully. Not bad.

I preferred his new age albums to the METAL overload he's gone for in recent years, but I like these J-pop covers he does. Hes a hell of a player but I can't watch him play. That picking stroke is just too weird

Yeah, bizarre picking technique hey.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2021, 03:07:34 PM: https://youtu.be/EzCyF45qsMw

New track from Brother Against Brother, a duets album with some Brazilian dudes by the looks of things. zones has a great voice. And if you don’t like the song the young lady in the video may keep your interest. It did mine.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 06, 2021, 04:30:19 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 06, 2021, 03:07:34 PM
https://youtu.be/EzCyF45qsMw

New track from Brother Against Brother, a duets album with some Brazilian dudes by the looks of things. zones has a great voice. And if you don’t like the song the young lady in the video may keep your interest. It did mine.

Wrong thread. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on April 07, 2021, 05:23:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 06, 2021, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 06, 2021, 06:17:55 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2021, 05:37:01 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on April 05, 2021, 04:56:40 AM
New Marty Friedman - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaKcidunByA

Dat's some hot shit. They've released 3 singles actually. Got my eye for this one.

I haven't followed him for a while. Get a real Steve Vai vibe from that track truthfully. Not bad.

I preferred his new age albums to the METAL overload he's gone for in recent years, but I like these J-pop covers he does. Hes a hell of a player but I can't watch him play. That picking stroke is just too weird

Yeah, bizarre picking technique hey.
Yeah, I loved his album 'Scenes'. I think Kitaro produced it. I got to see him live in 2019 without having heard any of his newer metal stuff. And, it was a killer show. His band is phenomenal.
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Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2021, 06:01:17 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 06, 2021, 03:07:34 PM
https://youtu.be/EzCyF45qsMw

New track from Brother Against Brother, a duets album with some Brazilian dudes by the looks of things. zones has a great voice. And if you don’t like the song the young lady in the video may keep your interest. It did mine.

Jorn and Russell certainly have a lot to answer for.
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Post by: gazinwales on April 09, 2021, 07:44:04 PM: At The Movies are back with a new song
https://youtu.be/FomCn15Mzjs
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2021, 01:44:55 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on April 09, 2021, 07:44:04 PM
At The Movies are back with a new song
https://youtu.be/FomCn15Mzjs

I’ve really enjoyed their stuff over lockdown. Chris Laney gets this music. His solo albums are great and his production on Crazy Lixx’s New Religion album was excellent.

I thought I’d signed up for the album on their Kickstarter but it seems I didn’t actually do it. I only realised when I went to complain that they hadn’t sent the cd.
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2021, 02:46:24 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on April 09, 2021, 07:44:04 PM
At The Movies are back with a new song
https://youtu.be/FomCn15Mzjs

I wish they'd stop now.
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Post by: gazinwales on April 14, 2021, 01:30:45 AM: New song from Secret Society, with the Tony Martin on vocals
https://youtu.be/BL6_sESpMyc
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2021, 06:59:11 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on April 14, 2021, 01:30:45 AM
New song from Secret Society, with the Tony Martin on vocals
https://youtu.be/BL6_sESpMyc

Hmmm....I thought that was pretty crap truthfully.
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Post by: ozzy554 on April 14, 2021, 07:07:33 AM: Tony can still bring it in the studio but the song itself I didn't think was anything special.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 16, 2021, 09:26:57 AM: Hey Paul................sounds like your favourite singer Robert Plant ;D

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=908805666583174&id=100023612469549
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Post by: Lowdz on April 16, 2021, 02:20:16 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 16, 2021, 09:26:57 AM
Hey Paul................sounds like your favourite singer Robert Plant ;D

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=908805666583174&id=100023612469549

Saw that the other day - the boys got talent but the Mohawk will have to go. 😁 I’d listen to that all day over Plant.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2021, 07:33:57 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 16, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 16, 2021, 09:26:57 AM
Hey Paul................sounds like your favourite singer Robert Plant ;D

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=908805666583174&id=100023612469549

Saw that the other day - the boys got talent but the Mohawk will have to go. 😁 I’d listen to that all day over Plant.

:lolpalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 17, 2021, 09:34:56 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 17, 2021, 07:33:57 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 16, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 16, 2021, 09:26:57 AM
Hey Paul................sounds like your favourite singer Robert Plant ;D

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=908805666583174&id=100023612469549

Saw that the other day - the boys got talent but the Mohawk will have to go. 😁 I’d listen to that all day over Plant.

:lolpalm:

I love you brother but that damage was done young and there’s no going back :lol :heart
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2021, 03:12:41 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 17, 2021, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on April 17, 2021, 07:33:57 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 16, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 16, 2021, 09:26:57 AM
Hey Paul................sounds like your favourite singer Robert Plant ;D

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=908805666583174&id=100023612469549

Saw that the other day - the boys got talent but the Mohawk will have to go. 😁 I’d listen to that all day over Plant.

:lolpalm:

I love you brother but that damage was done young and there’s no going back :lol :heart

No worries... we all have our own little fails.

Except jj . jj rocks.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 18, 2021, 06:09:49 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 17, 2021, 03:12:41 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 17, 2021, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on April 17, 2021, 07:33:57 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 16, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 16, 2021, 09:26:57 AM
Hey Paul................sounds like your favourite singer Robert Plant ;D

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=908805666583174&id=100023612469549

Saw that the other day - the boys got talent but the Mohawk will have to go. 😁 I’d listen to that all day over Plant.

:lolpalm:

I love you brother but that damage was done young and there’s no going back :lol :heart

No worries... we all have our own little fails.

Except jj . jj rocks.

No one’s going to argue with that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM: You tell 'em kids :metal - produced by Frank Hannon of Tesla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faao3_PkcRM
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 20, 2021, 07:09:46 PM: Tesla should have that kid backstage singing so Jeff Keith should lip synch to it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 21, 2021, 03:44:35 PM: Accept's Russian Roulette came out 35 years ago today. Damn!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2021, 06:27:19 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 21, 2021, 03:44:35 PM
Accept's Russian Roulette came out 35 years ago today. Damn!

Lol, I was 1!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2021, 06:28:33 AM: Had a listen to the Blaze, really quite wonderful. A bit samey but strong performances across the board, catchy songs and just a great listen. The Hawking song was fucking amazing too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 23, 2021, 07:30:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 23, 2021, 06:27:19 AM
Quote from: TAC on April 21, 2021, 03:44:35 PM
Accept's Russian Roulette came out 35 years ago today. Damn!

Lol, I was 1!

It was a month before I graduated high school.

Quote from: wolfking on April 23, 2021, 06:28:33 AM
Had a listen to the Blaze, really quite wonderful. A bit samey but strong performances across the board, catchy songs and just a great listen. The Hawking song was fucking amazing too.

So, I've been thinking about this. I think you've really got to hand it to Steve Harris. Perhaps Blaze was or wasn't a terrible choice for Maiden, but his solo career is filled with amazing quality throughout.
Steve did a great job identifying the talent in Blaze. That's a keen eye.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on April 23, 2021, 11:22:10 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 23, 2021, 06:28:33 AM
Had a listen to the Blaze, really quite wonderful. A bit samey but strong performances across the board, catchy songs and just a great listen. The Hawking song was fucking amazing too.

That was my favorite song off the new Blaze. "They don't know everything" sounds so defiant and badass when he sings it!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 24, 2021, 11:33:22 AM: The new album has some great stuff on it rendered pretty useless by Blaze unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 24, 2021, 06:32:27 PM: Artists/bands where you only love five of their albums?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2021, 05:07:45 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 24, 2021, 06:32:27 PM
Artists/bands where you only love five of their albums?

Artists where you only like every second album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 25, 2021, 04:33:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2021, 05:07:45 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on April 24, 2021, 06:32:27 PM
Artists/bands where you only love five of their albums?

Artists where you only like every second album.

Ooh ooh I know this one - House Of Lords! 😁
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 25, 2021, 05:01:12 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 24, 2021, 11:33:22 AM
The new album has some great stuff on it rendered pretty useless by Blaze unfortunately.

Not a fan of Blaze?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2021, 04:25:31 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 24, 2021, 11:33:22 AM
The new album has some great stuff on it rendered pretty useless by Blaze unfortunately.

I thought he sounded great on this one. Didn't like the way he sounded on the last 3 but he sounds great here. Probably the production helps.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 26, 2021, 10:35:16 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 26, 2021, 04:25:31 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 24, 2021, 11:33:22 AM
The new album has some great stuff on it rendered pretty useless by Blaze unfortunately.

I thought he sounded great on this one. Didn't like the way he sounded on the last 3 but he sounds great here. Probably the production helps.

He sounds about as well as he could, but that isn’t saying much. He has the most boring voice I’ve ever heard.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2021, 04:18:06 PM: Yeah, Issa should have sung on this one. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on April 27, 2021, 05:20:35 AM: (https://media0.giphy.com/media/Aff4ryYiacUO4/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e472rcboedbnf80heyxqg9j0pma7bow4o5h5z6ejq5w&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
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Post by: Lowdz on April 27, 2021, 11:23:43 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 26, 2021, 04:18:06 PM
Yeah, Issa should have sung on this one. ;D

All joking aside that would be great. Far better than Blaze.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 27, 2021, 11:39:08 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 27, 2021, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 26, 2021, 04:18:06 PM
Yeah, Issa should have sung on this one. ;D

All joking aside that would be great. Far better than Blaze.

This must be code for "I'm being held hostage; send help"
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 27, 2021, 12:55:23 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 27, 2021, 11:39:08 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 27, 2021, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 26, 2021, 04:18:06 PM
Yeah, Issa should have sung on this one. ;D

All joking aside that would be great. Far better than Blaze.

This must be code for "I'm being held hostage; send help"

You’re on a roll today!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2021, 02:36:16 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 27, 2021, 11:39:08 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 27, 2021, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 26, 2021, 04:18:06 PM
Yeah, Issa should have sung on this one. ;D

All joking aside that would be great. Far better than Blaze.

This must be code for "I'm being held hostage; send help"

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 27, 2021, 02:50:20 PM: I think I should check out the new Blaze album, I've liked all his work I've listened to but haven't even sampled anything from his recent albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 27, 2021, 03:09:59 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on April 27, 2021, 02:50:20 PM
I think I should check out the new Blaze album, I've liked all his work I've listened to but haven't even sampled anything from his recent albums.

It's really good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2021, 04:10:27 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 27, 2021, 03:09:59 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on April 27, 2021, 02:50:20 PM
I think I should check out the new Blaze album, I've liked all his work I've listened to but haven't even sampled anything from his recent albums.

It's really good.

Yeah, I listened to it again yesterday. Really strong.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 27, 2021, 04:40:45 PM: My friend also suggested checking it out, so between you three, I'm sold on buying the album even without sampling. I've got no problem supporting Blaze.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2021, 04:45:39 PM: Yeow! Pressure is on Tim.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 27, 2021, 05:23:39 PM: (https://media1.giphy.com/media/E72zBwfDfxRwLu5vbB/200.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 30, 2021, 03:29:09 PM: Not sure if it’s been mentioned anywhere and I missed I but here’s the new Flotsam & Jetsom. Another banger. I’ve only even checked out 5he album with the ninja dude on the cover and it did nothing for me. The two songs I’ve heard from this are excellent.

https://youtu.be/_P5TaZeWwcI
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2021, 03:31:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 30, 2021, 03:29:09 PM
Not sure if it’s been mentioned anywhere and I missed I but here’s the new Flotsam & Jetsom. Another banger. I’ve only even checked out 5he album with the ninja dude on the cover and it did nothing for me.

No Place For Disgrace is fucking excellent. Paul!!??

Their last two albums have been really good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2021, 03:33:13 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 30, 2021, 03:29:09 PM
Not sure if it’s been mentioned anywhere and I missed I but here’s the new Flotsam & Jetsom. Another banger. I’ve only even checked out 5he album with the ninja dude on the cover and it did nothing for me. The two songs I’ve heard from this are excellent.

https://youtu.be/_P5TaZeWwcI

Wow, that was great. I need to finally check these guys out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2021, 05:36:14 PM: Kade, check out:

Quote from: Lowdz on April 30, 2021, 03:29:09 PM
the album with the ninja dude on the cover

It's called No Place For Disgrace. It's their 2nd album from 1988. Jason Newsted only played on their debut.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on April 30, 2021, 06:10:24 PM: When they're good they really knock it out of the park. While I haven't heard anything from them that I thought was bad they have a lot of just okay albums in their discography. They've been killing it with their last few though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2021, 07:44:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 30, 2021, 05:36:14 PM
Kade, check out:

Quote from: Lowdz on April 30, 2021, 03:29:09 PM
the album with the ninja dude on the cover

It's called No Place For Disgrace. It's their 2nd album from 1988. Jason Newsted only played on their debut.

Okay. I'll check this over the weekend mate. I really liked that new song Paul posted.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 04:02:51 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 30, 2021, 05:36:14 PM
Kade, check out:

Quote from: Lowdz on April 30, 2021, 03:29:09 PM
the album with the ninja dude on the cover

It's called No Place For Disgrace. It's their 2nd album from 1988. Jason Newsted only played on their debut.

I'm spinning this now. Thrashtastic! How have I not checked these guys before?! Some great riffing here.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 04:03:55 AM: I wonder if Chuck was influenced by these guys. There's a few things here and there reminding me of Death. Check 1:57 of N. E. Terror. That's pure Death.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 04:09:43 AM: Escape From Within I hear some Queensryche.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 04:27:11 AM: Misguided Fortune absolutely rips. That intro is so Pantera.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 03, 2021, 08:11:39 AM: What’s going on with those cockatoo birds taking over that Australian suburb? It’s freaky. How are they going to get rid of those pricks?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 03, 2021, 01:29:46 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/veteran-rocker-phil-naro-loses-cancer-battle-one-of-the-finest-human-beings-i-have-ever-known-says-billy-sheehan

Phil sang with Talas on their 1984 live album Live Speed On Ice. It's a great album.

Check out High Speed On Ice
https://bravewords.com/news/veteran-rocker-phil-naro-loses-cancer-battle-one-of-the-finest-human-beings-i-have-ever-known-says-billy-sheehan
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 03, 2021, 02:26:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 04:02:51 AM
Quote from: TAC on April 30, 2021, 05:36:14 PM
Kade, check out:

Quote from: Lowdz on April 30, 2021, 03:29:09 PM
the album with the ninja dude on the cover

It's called No Place For Disgrace. It's their 2nd album from 1988. Jason Newsted only played on their debut.

I'm spinning this now. Thrashtastic! How have I not checked these guys before?! Some great riffing here.

:metal

It's a great album.

Quote from: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 04:03:55 AM
I wonder if Chuck was influenced by these guys. There's a few things here and there reminding me of Death. Check 1:57 of N. E. Terror. That's pure Death.

That part is some badassery. I defy anyone to not bob their head during that section.. It's similar to the chorus of Dreams Of Death..the "Can you feel death creeping up on you..." part.

Quote from: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 04:27:11 AM
Misguided Fortune absolutely rips. That intro is so Pantera.

It absolutely does. It has a great solo section. I don't think lead guitar is really the band's strength, but the section in this song is amazing.

The other song I really love is P.A.A.B. That song smokes.

One thing that stands out to me is Kelly Smith's drumming. He reminds me a lot of Dave Lombardo in that while they are both excellent drummers, they are also both easy to air drum too. I was "at the stage" a few times for them basically 6-8 feet from him and he was solid AF.

I mentioned Jason Newsted played on their debut, Doomsday For The Deceiver. That tour was the first time I saw them, though Jason was gone by then. They had a dude named Michael Spencer on bass, who coincidentally played on their two most recent albums.

Anyway, the bass player on No Place (and the next album When The Storm Comes Down) was Troy Gregory. He had a big hand in the songwriting for these two albums. I really liked his style, plus he really added some life to the band on stage. I really missed his presence when he left the band.
An example of their style on these two albums is the tightness of the rhythms as they start and stop mid line. It's a cool thing. I mean, they're not the only band that does it, but they were great at it.

Those are easily my two favorite F&J albums.

This is a bit grainy, but here's a show from Boston in 1988. They were great live back in the day. I didn't see this show, but I saw them in Providence a couple of months later. You can see how lively Troy Gregory is on stage. Also check out Michael Gilbert. He's the short guitarist way over on the left. He was a real interesting cat. He was a little short guy, but he was the fastest headbanger I've ever seen. Plus in this video, he's wearing a white collared polo type shirt. Kind of a funny dichotomy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AK9XyR5zCQ
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Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 02:37:10 PM: Good stuff Tim. I really enjoyed it, I'll check out more of them for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 02:37:27 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 03, 2021, 08:11:39 AM
What’s going on with those cockatoo birds taking over that Australian suburb? It’s freaky. How are they going to get rid of those pricks?

Lol wut?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 03, 2021, 04:37:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 03, 2021, 08:11:39 AM
What’s going on with those cockatoo birds taking over that Australian suburb? It’s freaky. How are they going to get rid of those pricks?

Lol wut?

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/animals/opportunists-nightmarish-video-shows-hundreds-of-corellas-descending-on-nowra-street/news-story/de9901a4c182621dada7a80505bf1a82

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 05:15:06 PM: Lol, typical Australia. We don't have hornets or bees or anything killer and scary, we have fucking cockatoos! :facepalm: :lol

Lol, they are noisy fuckers too. People wouldn't have been able to hear their TV's that's for damn sure.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2021, 06:41:13 PM: I hadn't even heard of that myself.

Perhaps if Kade got a job on the news website - I might've checked the story "Noisy fuckers descend on Nowra street" :)
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Post by: TAC on May 03, 2021, 07:19:11 PM: So I've been listening to some Rainbow this week and I decided to throw this in the car:

(https://powerofprog.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RITCHIE-BLACKMORE%E2%80%99S-RAINBOW-MEMORIES-IN-ROCK-II.jpg)

I bought it when it came out, but it just never sat well with me. After also listening to Michael Schenker's Immortal this week, and enjoying Ronnnie Romero's tracks, I decided to listen to this for literally the second time.

I must say that this album is really disappointing. The setlist, for the most part is very good. I'd have preferred another JLT track and I thought Child In Time was a great choice.

Whoever paid Ritchie Blackmore to put this together...I don't know, maybe they made out ok, but Blackmore sounds like he couldn't be less interested. The band literally sounds like they had one rehearsal the night before the show. Romero sounds like some poor hometown kid singing his heart out in a lame Rainbow cover band in a tiny club in front of 12 people. That's what I picture. I listened to the Boston 1981 CD last night and there is so much power and energy. There's none of that here. Ronnie Romero is literally the only thing holding this shit together. I have no idea how he found his vocal cues. He sounds like he was the only one prepared. And while he does an amazing Dio (and Bonnet for that matter) impression, he really sounds like a copycat. Not his fault, but it kind of adds to the cheesyness of the whole thing.

They are in need of a rhythm guitarist because while the band is attempting to actually play a song, Blackmore is literally out in the middle of nowhere. Most of it is just incoherent.

This album is disgraceful. I want my money back.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 09:22:30 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 03, 2021, 06:41:13 PM
I hadn't even heard of that myself.

Perhaps if Kade got a job on the news website - I might've checked the story "Noisy fuckers descend on Nowra street" :)

How did Tim and Jason know about this but we didn't hey?

That definitely would have been my article title too! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 09:24:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 03, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
So I've been listening to some Rainbow this week and I decided to throw this in the car:

(https://powerofprog.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RITCHIE-BLACKMORE%E2%80%99S-RAINBOW-MEMORIES-IN-ROCK-II.jpg)

I bought it when it came out, but it just never sat well with me. After also listening to Michael Schenker's Immortal this week, and enjoying Ronnnie Romero's tracks, I decided to listen to this for literally the second time.

I must say that this album is really disappointing. The setlist, for the most part is very good. I'd have preferred another JLT track and I thought Child In Time was a great choice.

Whoever paid Ritchie Blackmore to put this together...I don't know, maybe they made out ok, but Blackmore sounds like he couldn't be less interested. The band literally sounds like they had one rehearsal the night before the show. Romero sounds like some poor hometown kid singing his heart out in a lame Rainbow cover band in a tiny club in front of 12 people. That's what I picture. I listened to the Boston 1981 CD last night and there is so much power and energy. There's none of that here. Ronnie Romero is literally the only thing holding this shit together. I have no idea how he found his vocal cues. He sounds like he was the only one prepared. And while he does an amazing Dio (and Bonnet for that matter) impression, he really sounds like a copycat. Not his fault, but it kind of adds to the cheesyness of the whole thing.

They are in need of a rhythm guitarist because while the band is attempting to actually play a song, Blackmore is literally out in the middle of nowhere. Most of it is just incoherent.

This album is disgraceful. I want my money back.

Sounds like it's worth a listen for a laugh. Truthfully, Rainbow are another that I have a few albums from but never really dug into them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on May 04, 2021, 12:30:57 AM: While I haven't heard the full show, I did see the official live video's, and I thought it just lacked 'everything' that I want from a live show.
It seemed like the songs were played at a slower tempo, with no energy coming from the band or the songs.
I know Ritchie is in his 70's and has arthritis, but still when I saw the video's I was just shocked by it all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on May 04, 2021, 07:01:55 AM: There's three from the recent incarnation of Rainbow: Memories In Rock, Live In Birmingham, and Memories In Rock II. I don't really love any of them, to be honest, but that's the worst of the three. (And no, I'm not suggesting you search out the others; like I said I don't love any of them).

I'm not blaming him, but I never got the affection for Ronnie Romero as a singer. He seems a cool dude, and he handled being the front man as well as one could (though if you watch the video, clearly, he was on a short leash) but he's my least favorite of the Rainbow singers. He just doesn't have the character of those guys that came before. I think it's because he only has one name, not two. :)

1 Joe Lynn Turner
2 Ronnie James Dio
3 Graham Bonnet
4 Doogie White
5 Ronnie Romero
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 04, 2021, 02:23:07 PM: Cool Bill, I was wondering where you stood on this. This would've been a lo better if he had JLT playing with him, but considering how little Blackmore himself sounds like he's putting in, I don't think anything would really help.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on May 04, 2021, 02:32:49 PM: Yeah I've only seen a few videos of this version of rainbow and that's enough for me. Romero is singing his ass off but the rest of the band is running on half power at most. I know Blackmore is in his 70s and I didn't expect him to play like he did decades ago but he was even half assing the simpler riffs too. Just comes across as a complete cash grab.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 05, 2021, 02:21:23 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 05:15:06 PM
Lol, typical Australia. We don't have hornets or bees or anything killer and scary, we have fucking cockatoos! :facepalm: :lol

Lol, they are noisy fuckers too. People wouldn't have been able to hear their TV's that's for damn sure.

Keep me updated on those noisy pricks.
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Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2021, 05:01:47 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 05, 2021, 02:21:23 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 03, 2021, 05:15:06 PM
Lol, typical Australia. We don't have hornets or bees or anything killer and scary, we have fucking cockatoos! :facepalm: :lol

Lol, they are noisy fuckers too. People wouldn't have been able to hear their TV's that's for damn sure.

Keep me updated on those noisy pricks.

I still haven't seen this anywhere over here! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 05, 2021, 06:48:59 AM: Those pricks are the top story on my weather app here in Canada
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Post by: Lowdz on May 05, 2021, 12:24:31 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on May 04, 2021, 02:32:49 PM
Yeah I've only seen a few videos of this version of rainbow and that's enough for me. Romero is singing his ass off but the rest of the band is running on half power at most. I know Blackmore is in his 70s and I didn't expect him to play like he did decades ago but he was even half assing the simpler riffs too. Just comes across as a complete cash grab.

It was awful. I’m glad I didn’t go. I was very close, but RB just can’t rock anymore. And the rhythm section were poor.
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Post by: gazinwales on May 05, 2021, 01:45:39 PM: Loads of cockatoo's where I live, they fly around in groups and squawk so loud they are almost deafening.
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Post by: ozzy554 on May 05, 2021, 04:35:52 PM: I have one of them as a pet and he is loud enough on his own. I cant imagine a whole flock of the things.
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Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2021, 04:51:27 PM: Told you guys they were noisy fuckers!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2021, 11:49:00 AM: I’ve just seen that Tawny Kitaen died yesterday. 58. She’s been a troubled soul. I wondered why I was drawn to play Whitesnake’s 1987 yesterday.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2021, 01:27:59 PM: Bachelor Party movie 84 rules!
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Post by: KevShmev on May 08, 2021, 02:13:10 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 08, 2021, 11:49:00 AM
I’ve just seen that Tawny Kitaen died yesterday. 58. She’s been a troubled soul. I wondered why I was drawn to play Whitesnake’s 1987 yesterday.

Those Whitesnake videos came out in '87, and I am pretty sure every guy in my 8th grade circle of friends at the time worshipped all of them because of Ms. Kitaen. :hat :hat

Aside from Bachelor Party, I also remember her from an early Seinfeld episode (she was the ditzy girlfriend Jerry had, resulting in his brain and penis playing chess for control of the situation).

R.I.P.
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2021, 03:38:14 PM: Quote from: KevShmev on May 08, 2021, 02:13:10 PM

Those Whitesnake videos came out in '87, and I am pretty sure every guy in my 8th grade circle of friends at the time worshipped all of them because of Ms. Kitaen. :hat :hat

;D

I did see Witchboard at the movies.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2021, 09:59:06 PM: RIP

Was also on the cover of Ratt's Out Of The Cellar.
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Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2021, 03:28:21 AM: Damn, she was fine. :'( So young, RIP.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 09, 2021, 03:43:32 AM: I preferred Bobbie Brown myself but those Whitesnake videos were iconic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2021, 04:07:37 AM: New Malmsteen;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F74Tw99qfRg

This is probably better than what he's been doing on the last few, but that's not saying much. A real singer might have made this listenable, cause it has potential actually, but this sounds like the demo version, especially with the production. Muddy as fuck. A shame.

Funny, every Youtube comment is positive too. He must approve them and delete the negatives ones.
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Post by: ozzy554 on May 09, 2021, 07:14:13 AM: Looks like they've drowned his vocals in effects to give the illusion that he has any kind of range at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 09, 2021, 07:14:58 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 08, 2021, 01:27:59 PM
Bachelor Party movie 84 rules!

"Is that the footlong?"
"And then some!"

Randomly, this line popped into my head yesterday.

And yeah... she was every guys fap-fantasy at some point for our generation.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 09, 2021, 12:24:40 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 09, 2021, 04:07:37 AM
New Malmsteen;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F74Tw99qfRg

This is probably better than what he's been doing on the last few, but that's not saying much. A real singer might have made this listenable, cause it has potential actually, but this sounds like the demo version, especially with the production. Muddy as fuck. A shame.

Funny, every Youtube comment is positive too. He must approve them and delete the negatives ones.

Yeah, I actually liked the intro - thought it was different- but the sing8ng just kills it. I don’t know how he thinks this is acceptable. The YouTube fanboys are lapping it up, as thought he’s this great singer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 10, 2021, 03:38:51 AM: I've been on a massive Satriani kick lately, but I just now realized that Musterion (from Satchafunkilus and the Musterion Of Rock) is almost like a reworking of his track Not Of This Earth.

This has to be intentional, but I couldn't find any info on it.

Does someone here have inside information?
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Post by: bl5150 on May 12, 2021, 06:08:35 AM: Not sure about that K...................both of the above artists have been off my radar for ages. The last album of Malmsteen I own is Magnum Opus and the last Satriani was Crystal Planet. I haven't heard much since to make me change my mind.

New KK's Priest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqOZJAZR1XM&t=2s

Sounds pretty phoned in to me and Ripper seems to have lost a few gears vocally.
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Post by: ozzy554 on May 12, 2021, 06:23:52 AM: Not bad but it sounds like it was specifically written to be an opener. You can even hear where the pyro would go to pop the crowd.
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2021, 06:24:26 AM: Hellfire Thunderbolt? :lol

Watched on my phone but I couldn't hear the rhythm guitars. Seemed to lack grit in that department. The solos were choppy as fuck too. I'll listen again, I kind of didn't mind it but at the same time it was kind of shit. Dunno how that works.
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2021, 06:24:58 AM: Quote from: ozzy554 on May 12, 2021, 06:23:52 AM
Not bad but it sounds like it was specifically written to be an opener. You can even hear where the pyro would go to pop the crowd.

That's the hellfire thunderbolt.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 12, 2021, 09:07:53 AM: Look at these song titles..

"Incarnation"
"Hellfire Thunderbolt"
"Sermons Of The Sinner"
"Sacerdote Y Diablo"
"Raise Your Fists"
"Brothers Of The Road"
"Metal Through And Through"
"Wild And Free"
"Hail For The Priest"
"Return Of The Sentinel"
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Post by: Kwyjibo on May 12, 2021, 09:42:24 AM: Straight out of the generic song-title-generator, metal edition :D
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2021, 03:28:56 PM: Good Lord! :facepalm:
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Post by: gazinwales on May 12, 2021, 03:56:44 PM: Sounds like a load of old bollocks!
I really don't think I could listen to a whole album of this stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on May 12, 2021, 04:36:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 12, 2021, 09:07:53 AM
Look at these song titles..

"Incarnation"
"Hellfire Thunderbolt"
"Sermons Of The Sinner"
"Sacerdote Y Diablo"
"Raise Your Fists"
"Brothers Of The Road"
"Metal Through And Through"
"Wild And Free"
"Hail For The Priest"
"Return Of The Sentinel"

The Sentinel is a top 5 JP song for me so I hope that one is good. I know Priest could lean into the cheese sometimes but all these song titles could be used on some kind of 80s metal parody album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2021, 12:40:36 AM: Everytime I look at those song titles I feel sad. Even Primal Fear would laugh at these song titles they are so ridiculous.
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Post by: gazinwales on May 13, 2021, 01:14:19 AM: Even Rhapsody (of Fire) would be embarrassed by those song titles...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 13, 2021, 04:28:15 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on May 13, 2021, 01:14:19 AM
Even Rhapsody (of Fire) would be embarrassed by those song titles...

Steel Panther probably gave them some pointers.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on May 13, 2021, 05:31:08 AM: St**l Pant**r don't count as they are not a proper band, just a poor joke that ain't funny :o
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 13, 2021, 06:53:55 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on May 13, 2021, 05:31:08 AM
St**l Pant**r don't count as they are not a proper band, just a poor joke that ain't funny :o

Ok, Spinal Tap would be embarrassed by those titles
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 13, 2021, 08:02:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 27, 2021, 04:10:27 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 27, 2021, 03:09:59 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on April 27, 2021, 02:50:20 PM
I think I should check out the new Blaze album, I've liked all his work I've listened to but haven't even sampled anything from his recent albums.

It's really good.

Yeah, I listened to it again yesterday. Really strong.

Got it shortly after this convo, but finally listened to it a few times this week and I'm really enjoying it
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on May 13, 2021, 12:56:49 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on May 13, 2021, 05:31:08 AM
St**l Pant**r don't count as they are not a proper band, just a poor joke that ain't funny :o

At least they know what they are and have never claimed to be anything but. It's another thing to accidentally blunder your way into self parody.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on May 13, 2021, 01:04:47 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on May 13, 2021, 12:56:49 PM
Quote from: gazinwales on May 13, 2021, 05:31:08 AM
St**l Pant**r don't count as they are not a proper band, just a poor joke that ain't funny :o

At least they know what they are and have never claimed to be anything but. It's another thing to accidentally blunder your way into self parody.

This. Other than the bass player and the mirror gag, which was lame on day one, I think Steel Panther is amusing. The Weenie Ride video is aces as far as I'm concerned.

But that song list is exactly why I DON'T hold Priest in the same regard as Maiden and Sabbath. It's just a shade into "cartoon" and "pandering" land for me. "Hail For The Priest"; like I haven't heard "Call For The Priest" 800 brazilian times? I can't imagine Dave Murray releasing an album with songs like "Sprint To The Hills", or "The Second Leg Of The Flight Of Icarus".

I'll still give it a listen though; out of respect if nothing else.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 14, 2021, 04:39:03 AM: I just completed a daylight robbery with a new guitar.............check the Post Your Instrument thread if nice guitars are your thing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 14, 2021, 04:48:20 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 14, 2021, 04:39:03 AM
I just completed a daylight robbery with a new guitar.............check the Post Your Instrument thread if nice guitars are your thing.

Awesome. They aren't 'my thing', but this is still awesome. How's the business going, mate?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 14, 2021, 04:56:32 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 14, 2021, 04:48:20 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 14, 2021, 04:39:03 AM
I just completed a daylight robbery with a new guitar.............check the Post Your Instrument thread if nice guitars are your thing.

Awesome. They aren't 'my thing', but this is still awesome. How's the business going, mate?

Hey Chad. Good I guess................flat out with quite a waiting list. Only trouble is because of the way I do things (perfectionist) I spend heaps of unpaid time on follow-up , updating our app, creating online practice lessons (like GuitarPro etc..) which means a fairly low cap on numbers . When all is said and done after an 80hr week my hourly rate is barely double digits and that's pretax. So working myself into the dirt for not much but have created a strong reputation and setting the platform for something a bit more viable down the track. Only trouble is I have to find time to work on the other ideas as well . I'm too old for this shit ::)

Maybe one day I might buy a house again - for now a mispriced gem of a guitar is about as good as it gets :lol It's the old trader in me............when I need equipment I scour Ebay for people making stupid mistakes . :hat
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Post by: TAC on May 14, 2021, 08:14:48 PM: Maybe Ben could take over doing the podcasts.
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Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2021, 05:06:36 AM: Hopefully all that ground work pays off soon Brent. Having a waiting list is a very good sign you are doing things right!
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 16, 2021, 05:55:06 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 16, 2021, 05:06:36 AM
Hopefully all that ground work pays off soon Brent. Having a waiting list is a very good sign you are doing things right!

This exactly. Overnight success usually takes years to build.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2021, 06:07:57 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 16, 2021, 05:55:06 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 16, 2021, 05:06:36 AM
Hopefully all that ground work pays off soon Brent. Having a waiting list is a very good sign you are doing things right!

This exactly. Overnight success usually takes years to build.

Brent obviously has the patience for his craft. I had that with playing, but when it came to all other aspects, I just never had the attention span for it. The behind the scenes work he would be doing also wouldn't be very fun either.
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Post by: ozzy554 on May 17, 2021, 07:53:57 AM: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/warlord-guitarist-composer-william-j-tsamis-dead-at-60/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/warlord-guitarist-composer-william-j-tsamis-dead-at-60/)

Warlord was one of those bands that I think could've been something but they could not keep a lineup together long enough to really do much. Which is a shame because Tsamis and Zonder sounded great together and it's sad that we wont be getting anything else from them. R.I.P
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Post by: TAC on May 17, 2021, 09:45:17 AM: I saw that yesterday. Only 60..

I love the album they did with Joacim Cans.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 17, 2021, 01:51:08 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/chalice-of-sin-feat-wade-black-streaming-new-song-sacred-shrine

Chalice Of Sin is a sensational new heavy metal machine masterminded by vocalist Wade Black (Crimson Glory, Seven Witches, Leatherwolf), who started working on new music for the project in 2019....The self-titled debut is due out June 18, and today, fans can get a taste of the album with the song "Sacred Shrine".

https://youtu.be/SFzghupG2_k

Nice! It's too good for the Frontiers thread :D
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Post by: gazinwales on May 19, 2021, 11:09:08 PM: I lasted 22 seconds, dreadful ;D
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Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 05:59:37 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 17, 2021, 01:51:08 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/chalice-of-sin-feat-wade-black-streaming-new-song-sacred-shrine

Chalice Of Sin is a sensational new heavy metal machine masterminded by vocalist Wade Black (Crimson Glory, Seven Witches, Leatherwolf), who started working on new music for the project in 2019....The self-titled debut is due out June 18, and today, fans can get a taste of the album with the song "Sacred Shrine".

https://youtu.be/SFzghupG2_k

Nice! It's too good for the Frontiers thread :D

These vocals are hilarious.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 20, 2021, 08:05:33 AM: To each their own, I guess. I dug it.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 20, 2021, 12:05:41 PM: Just putting this here for the shredders. I really like Lost Symphony and this is an instrumental with Marty Friedman, Nuno and Alex Skolnik sharing the spotlight.

https://youtu.be/4umRs4RhxGc
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Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 02:23:03 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on May 20, 2021, 12:05:41 PM
Just putting this here for the shredders. I really like Lost Symphony and this is an instrumental with Marty Friedman, Nuno and Alex Skolnik sharing the spotlight.

https://youtu.be/4umRs4RhxGc

Nice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 20, 2021, 07:17:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 17, 2021, 01:51:08 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/chalice-of-sin-feat-wade-black-streaming-new-song-sacred-shrine

Chalice Of Sin is a sensational new heavy metal machine masterminded by vocalist Wade Black (Crimson Glory, Seven Witches, Leatherwolf), who started working on new music for the project in 2019....The self-titled debut is due out June 18, and today, fans can get a taste of the album with the song "Sacred Shrine".

https://youtu.be/SFzghupG2_k

Nice! It's too good for the Frontiers thread :D

These vocals are hilarious.

Sounds like me in the shower singing heavy metal songs. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on May 20, 2021, 07:31:48 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2021, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 17, 2021, 01:51:08 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/chalice-of-sin-feat-wade-black-streaming-new-song-sacred-shrine

Chalice Of Sin is a sensational new heavy metal machine masterminded by vocalist Wade Black (Crimson Glory, Seven Witches, Leatherwolf), who started working on new music for the project in 2019....The self-titled debut is due out June 18, and today, fans can get a taste of the album with the song "Sacred Shrine".

https://youtu.be/SFzghupG2_k

Nice! It's too good for the Frontiers thread :D

These vocals are hilarious.

Sounds like me in the shower singing heavy metal songs. :lol

With that production I'd believe it. I know I give Frontiers crap for always sounding the same but man I thought that sounded bad. Like they forgot the final polish on the mix and just put it out as is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 20, 2021, 08:11:00 PM: They can't win................we all say it's too polished and Frontiersy and we want something more organic and then they go and record Tim singing in the shower and all of a sudden it's too raw.

Hopefully there's no music video for that one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 20, 2021, 08:21:44 PM: I can furnish one, if that's what you're asking? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on May 20, 2021, 09:53:41 PM: Ok so I loved the album Mana by Idle Hands. I somehow completely missed the news that they had to change their name. They are now Unto Others. They even changed the artwork on spotify.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 10:06:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2021, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 17, 2021, 01:51:08 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/chalice-of-sin-feat-wade-black-streaming-new-song-sacred-shrine

Chalice Of Sin is a sensational new heavy metal machine masterminded by vocalist Wade Black (Crimson Glory, Seven Witches, Leatherwolf), who started working on new music for the project in 2019....The self-titled debut is due out June 18, and today, fans can get a taste of the album with the song "Sacred Shrine".

https://youtu.be/SFzghupG2_k

Nice! It's too good for the Frontiers thread :D

These vocals are hilarious.

Sounds like me in the shower singing heavy metal songs. :lol

Send me a copy of your cd mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 10:07:28 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 20, 2021, 08:11:00 PM
They can't win................we all say it's too polished and Frontiersy and we want something more organic and then they go and record Tim singing in the shower and all of a sudden it's too raw.

Hopefully there's no music video for that one.

That's as raw as it comes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 21, 2021, 03:16:25 AM: Quote from: ozzy554 on May 20, 2021, 09:53:41 PM
Ok so I loved the album Mana by Idle Hands. I somehow completely missed the news that they had to change their name. They are now Unto Others. They even changed the artwork on spotify.

That’s a great album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 21, 2021, 09:35:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2021, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 17, 2021, 01:51:08 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/chalice-of-sin-feat-wade-black-streaming-new-song-sacred-shrine

Chalice Of Sin is a sensational new heavy metal machine masterminded by vocalist Wade Black (Crimson Glory, Seven Witches, Leatherwolf), who started working on new music for the project in 2019....The self-titled debut is due out June 18, and today, fans can get a taste of the album with the song "Sacred Shrine".

https://youtu.be/SFzghupG2_k

Nice! It's too good for the Frontiers thread :D

These vocals are hilarious.

Sounds like me in the shower singing heavy metal songs. :lol

Send me a copy of your cd mate.

It’s a Covers album:

Iron Maiden- Bathchild
King Diamond- Give Me Your Soap.....Please
Saxon-Shower And The Glory
Anthrax-Persistence Of Bathtime
Megadeth- Peace Sells But Who’s Bathing
Slayer- Spill The Tub
Judas Priest- Some Head And Shoulders Are Gonna Roll
Black Sabbath- Fairies Wear Shower Caps
Whitesnake - Dandruff And Ready
AC/DC - Scrub All Over You
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 21, 2021, 09:42:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2021, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 17, 2021, 01:51:08 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/chalice-of-sin-feat-wade-black-streaming-new-song-sacred-shrine

Chalice Of Sin is a sensational new heavy metal machine masterminded by vocalist Wade Black (Crimson Glory, Seven Witches, Leatherwolf), who started working on new music for the project in 2019....The self-titled debut is due out June 18, and today, fans can get a taste of the album with the song "Sacred Shrine".

https://youtu.be/SFzghupG2_k

Nice! It's too good for the Frontiers thread :D

These vocals are hilarious.

Sounds like me in the shower singing heavy metal songs. :lol

Send me a copy of your cd mate.

It’s a Covers album:

Iron Maiden- Bathchild
King Diamond- Give Me Your Soap.....Please
Saxon-Shower And The Glory
Anthrax-Persistence Of Bathtime
Megadeth- Peace Sells But Who’s Bathing
Slayer- Spill The Tub
Judas Priest- Some Head And Shoulders Are Gonna Roll
Black Sabbath- Fairies Wear Shower Caps
Whitesnake - Dandruff And Ready
AC/DC - Scrub All Over You

You win th einternet for today Tim :lol :lol :lol
Now to get those pictures out of my head :eek
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2021, 02:16:32 PM: Some Head and Shoulders Are Gonna Roll! :rollin That's fucking brilliant!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 21, 2021, 03:03:27 PM: I think there's a bonus track missing - Van Halen / Why Can't This Be Old Spice?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2021, 04:34:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 21, 2021, 03:03:27 PM
I think there's a bonus track missing - Van Halen / Why Can't This Be Old Spice?

Sucker In A Birthday Suit.
Rinse The Night Away

Outta Dove Again :(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 21, 2021, 05:45:57 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2021, 04:34:58 PM

Outta Dove Again :(

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2021, 06:20:38 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2021, 05:45:57 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2021, 04:34:58 PM

Outta Dove Again :(

:lol

Outstanding!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on May 21, 2021, 09:47:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2021, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2021, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on May 17, 2021, 01:51:08 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/chalice-of-sin-feat-wade-black-streaming-new-song-sacred-shrine

Chalice Of Sin is a sensational new heavy metal machine masterminded by vocalist Wade Black (Crimson Glory, Seven Witches, Leatherwolf), who started working on new music for the project in 2019....The self-titled debut is due out June 18, and today, fans can get a taste of the album with the song "Sacred Shrine".

https://youtu.be/SFzghupG2_k

Nice! It's too good for the Frontiers thread :D

These vocals are hilarious.

Sounds like me in the shower singing heavy metal songs. :lol

Send me a copy of your cd mate.

It’s a Covers album:

Iron Maiden- Bathchild
King Diamond- Give Me Your Soap.....Please
Saxon-Shower And The Glory
Anthrax-Persistence Of Bathtime
Megadeth- Peace Sells But Who’s Bathing
Slayer- Spill The Tub
Judas Priest- Some Head And Shoulders Are Gonna Roll
Black Sabbath- Fairies Wear Shower Caps
Whitesnake - Dandruff And Ready
AC/DC - Scrub All Over You

It's a shame that "Another One Drops the Soap" didn't make the cut as I thought it had potential.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2021, 04:42:09 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 21, 2021, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2021, 05:45:57 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2021, 04:34:58 PM

Outta Dove Again :(

:lol

Outstanding!

Yeah, that was outstanding. Got a legitimate out loud laugh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2021, 05:34:27 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on May 22, 2021, 04:42:09 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 21, 2021, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2021, 05:45:57 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2021, 04:34:58 PM

Outta Dove Again :(

:lol

Outstanding!

Yeah, that was outstanding. Got a legitimate out loud laugh.

The sad face added so much authenticity and emotion. Too good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2021, 07:46:27 AM: I’ll give Tim credit, that post was outstanding
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2021, 07:54:17 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 22, 2021, 07:46:27 AM
I’ll give Tim credit, that post was outstanding

I'm actually hoping it's a real covers album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2021, 08:10:29 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2021, 07:54:17 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 22, 2021, 07:46:27 AM
I’ll give Tim credit, that post was outstanding

I'm actually hoping it's a real covers album.

At first I assumed that Bathchild was a take on Wrathchild, but I can't get melody and chorus of Moonchild (as "Bathchild") out of my head now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 23, 2021, 01:22:37 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2021, 07:54:17 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 22, 2021, 07:46:27 AM
I’ll give Tim credit, that post was outstanding

I'm actually hoping it's a real covers album.

Patreon for Tim to record it? My Visa is ready.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2021, 05:02:41 AM: https://youtu.be/BSG9CLAH5Wc

New Flotsam video. Fucker rips.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 26, 2021, 06:52:38 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 26, 2021, 05:02:41 AM
https://youtu.be/BSG9CLAH5Wc

New Flotsam video. Fucker rips.

That is glorious. How good is Eric Knutson? They have never been not active, and his voice is still amazing.

Heavy Metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2021, 04:21:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 26, 2021, 06:52:38 AM
Quote from: wolfking on May 26, 2021, 05:02:41 AM
https://youtu.be/BSG9CLAH5Wc

New Flotsam video. Fucker rips.

That is glorious. How good is Eric Knutson? They have never been not active, and his voice is still amazing.

Heavy Metal :metal :metal

The live show I think I posted a couple weeks back from a few year ago I was impressed with the dudes vocals live, they were impressive.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on May 26, 2021, 04:51:47 PM: I think his vocals have actually improved with age. The tone and roughness in his voice just sounds awesome and unique.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Evermind on May 27, 2021, 06:45:35 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 26, 2021, 05:02:41 AM
https://youtu.be/BSG9CLAH5Wc

New Flotsam video. Fucker rips.

Never heard anything by this band although I saw them mentioned here. Today Better Off Dead popped up in my music recommendations, really liked it. Any album I should check out?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 27, 2021, 09:19:55 AM: Start with their last two.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 27, 2021, 09:32:04 AM: That's 3/3 from the new album. Still need to give the last on e a full go. Played it recently but I didn't give it my full attention.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 27, 2021, 08:06:52 PM: https://bravewords.com/reviews/flotsam-and-jetsam-blood-in-the-water

9.0! :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 28, 2021, 02:01:17 AM: This sounds like the new jjrock theme song :metal :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RJrr2bVMTU
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2021, 06:00:05 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 28, 2021, 02:01:17 AM
This sounds like the new jjrock theme song :metal :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RJrr2bVMTU

Those lyrics. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 28, 2021, 06:06:58 AM: "Let's fucking go..........it's time to rock" :metal :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2021, 06:17:32 AM: And time to roll!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 28, 2021, 06:42:37 AM: til you die :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 28, 2021, 07:18:30 AM: Wow. The guy just won't stop until he drops.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 31, 2021, 07:55:08 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChLwI0WJe1Y

For the KISS fan in the little kid in us.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 02, 2021, 10:46:09 AM: New Doogie!

https://bravewords.com/news/long-shadows-dawn-feat-doogie-white-emil-norberg-to-release-debut-album-in-august-master-of-illusion-music-video-streaming

The song is OK. I'll definitely check this album out for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 02, 2021, 03:43:34 PM: Fan Halen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1rEtwc3W_s
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2021, 04:01:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 02, 2021, 10:46:09 AM
New Doogie!

https://bravewords.com/news/long-shadows-dawn-feat-doogie-white-emil-norberg-to-release-debut-album-in-august-master-of-illusion-music-video-streaming

The song is OK. I'll definitely check this album out for sure.

Damn, this was not good at all. :( Sounds like shit too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on June 03, 2021, 12:37:16 AM: Yeah I lasted just past the first chorus, that was enough for me.
Boring Blackmore riff rip off, and Doogie sounded terrible.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on June 04, 2021, 08:00:38 AM: New Alcatrazz Feat. Doogie White https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ)

While I don't think its awful or anything without Graham it sounds like a totally different band. Really the only thing that sounds like Alcatrazz here is the Yngwie inspired solo by Stump.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2021, 02:22:53 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on June 04, 2021, 08:00:38 AM
New Alcatrazz Feat. Doogie White https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ)

We Rock!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on June 04, 2021, 04:39:27 PM: Slightly better than the other Doogie video, I last 87 seconds, was enough for me...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2021, 05:06:59 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on June 04, 2021, 08:00:38 AM
New Alcatrazz Feat. Doogie White https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ)

While I don't think its awful or anything without Graham it sounds like a totally different band. Really the only thing that sounds like Alcatrazz here is the Yngwie inspired solo by Stump.

I'll give this a solid. Yeah, the Malmsteen rip off solo was pretty laughable to me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2021, 05:12:38 PM: I made it longer in the other video honestly.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2021, 05:19:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 04, 2021, 05:12:38 PM
I made it longer in the other video honestly.

Yeah, I waited for the solo but the blatant Malmsteen rip was enough for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2021, 05:27:55 PM: I couldn't get past the We Rock intro. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2021, 08:13:10 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 04, 2021, 05:27:55 PM
I couldn't get past the We Rock intro. :lol

That was pretty fucking blatant too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2021, 11:04:44 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 04, 2021, 05:06:59 PM
Quote from: ozzy554 on June 04, 2021, 08:00:38 AM
New Alcatrazz Feat. Doogie White https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ)

While I don't think its awful or anything without Graham it sounds like a totally different band. Really the only thing that sounds like Alcatrazz here is the Yngwie inspired solo by Stump.

I'll give this a solid. Yeah, the Malmsteen rip off solo was pretty laughable to me.

I didn't bother with the solo because I know what it sounds like without listening but what I did get through I found somewhat listenable (that's almost solid :) ). I thought Doogie sounded more like Mark Boals than himself at times , particularly at the very start. But yeah- certainly nothing there I would bother returning to.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2021, 08:06:23 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 04, 2021, 05:06:59 PM
Quote from: ozzy554 on June 04, 2021, 08:00:38 AM
New Alcatrazz Feat. Doogie White https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ)

While I don't think its awful or anything without Graham it sounds like a totally different band. Really the only thing that sounds like Alcatrazz here is the Yngwie inspired solo by Stump.

I'll give this a solid. Yeah, the Malmsteen rip off solo was pretty laughable to me.

I didn’t mind this but yeah, that solo is pretty much Nite for note 😁
Joe does worship Yngwie. He even has the Yngwie overdrive in his pedalboard.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on June 08, 2021, 03:34:28 PM: Well more Alcatrazz news. Graham Bonnet announces Jeff Loomis for his version of the band. https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/arch-enemys-jeff-loomis-joins-graham-bonnets-version-of-alcatrazz/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/arch-enemys-jeff-loomis-joins-graham-bonnets-version-of-alcatrazz/)

Can't say I expected this one
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2021, 04:00:43 PM: Loomis and Bonnet? What an unexpected and unusual combination. I'll check this out though, love Loomis.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 11, 2021, 01:00:14 PM: So I'm going through the new album releases today, and I come across this:

(https://newnoisemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Hammer-King-1.jpg)

Here's the hammerific track listing:

1. Awaken The Thunder
2. Baptized By The Hammer
3. Onward To Victory
4. Hammerschlag
5. Atlantis
6. We Are The Kingdom
7. Into The Storm
8. Ashes To Ashes
9. In The Name Of The Hammer
10. King Of Kings

What fucking 12 year old's heavy metal name generator did these song titles come from. Holy shit, even Hammerfall is laughing at them.

Hammerschlag? Hammerschlag? What in the fuck is Hammerschlag?

How do I get baptized by the hammer?

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wNJP6RH35jI/hqdefault.jpg)

Reminds me of the great Reverend Willie Runnels classic:

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.shopify.com%2Fs%2Ffiles%2F1%2F0807%2F4553%2Fproducts%2FRev._Willie_Runnels_If_I_Had_a_Hammer_Sermon_Sealed_Private_Press_Lp_grande.JPG%3Fv%3D1451864500&hash=240892f3cdf8996be8abc3fdf933eb821ad4f107)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 11, 2021, 02:06:57 PM: Yeah, but how's the music?

Oh, and considering this is a Top 50 All-time song for me, I had to post it. Not terrible.

Kickstart My Heart - Falset featuring JLB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460AU9mYhiU)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 11, 2021, 02:50:59 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 11, 2021, 02:06:57 PM
Yeah, but how's the music?

Not good..

Quote from: jingle.boy on June 11, 2021, 02:06:57 PM
Oh, and considering this is a Top 50 All-time song for me, I had to post it. Not terrible.

Kickstart My Heart - Falset featuring JLB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460AU9mYhiU)

That's pretty good. I'd love to see DT have fun with a cover like this. I heard this is James' son's band. That does he do?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2021, 05:37:59 PM: Hammerschlag

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 11, 2021, 05:50:07 PM: Hammerschlag of Fire :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on June 18, 2021, 12:46:44 AM: Brother Firetribe - Thunder Rising
https://youtu.be/sEUiEKh34ac
Killer hard rocking song and not a Gary Moore Cover :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 18, 2021, 09:02:44 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on June 18, 2021, 12:46:44 AM
Brother Firetribe - Thunder Rising
https://youtu.be/sEUiEKh34ac
Killer hard rocking song and not a Gary Moore Cover :yarr

I played the first two albums in the car earlier in the week. Love them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on June 20, 2021, 06:28:27 PM: Now I try not to be overly harsh on aging vocalists as long as they're actually trying. I do get a bit more harsh when I think that they clearly can do better with just some effort. Axl Rose for example dropped a lot of weight and clearly worked on himself and he sounds better than he had in years. Vince Neil at this point is just stealing peoples money. Everybody was hoping that he would take the pandemic downtime to really get into shape for the big return to the stage. His one solo show of 2021 thus far (the second was cancelled) was a complete disaster and this is how it ended. Walking off stage mid song leaving the band to finish without him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9YE3LsPkk8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9YE3LsPkk8)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 20, 2021, 06:42:54 PM: Looks like the band had to keep going lest the crowd discover half the band kept playing/singing after they left the stage :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2021, 05:31:28 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 20, 2021, 06:42:54 PM
Looks like the band had to keep going lest the crowd discover half the band kept playing/singing after they left the stage :lol

Kinda what I was thinking too. Those backing vox were clearly piped in.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2021, 05:54:39 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 21, 2021, 05:31:28 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 20, 2021, 06:42:54 PM
Looks like the band had to keep going lest the crowd discover half the band kept playing/singing after they left the stage :lol

Kinda what I was thinking too. Those backing vox were clearly piped in.

Maybe the lead vocals should have been. Saw his a couple of weeks ago. Phil Collen commented on it, saying he's got a year to get in shape. if the last year off wasn't enough, not sure what good it will be. Maybe Phil should volunteer as his personal trainer :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2021, 07:51:33 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 21, 2021, 05:54:39 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 21, 2021, 05:31:28 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 20, 2021, 06:42:54 PM
Looks like the band had to keep going lest the crowd discover half the band kept playing/singing after they left the stage :lol

Kinda what I was thinking too. Those backing vox were clearly piped in.

Maybe the lead vocals should have been.

Right... pull a 'Blackie'? Can't find it now, but I remember Brent posting a fan recorded clip of Blackie "singing" while 10 feet away from the mic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on June 21, 2021, 08:04:25 AM: The weird thing about Blackie is that he can still sing and his excessive use of backing tracks is completely unnecessary.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 21, 2021, 10:22:05 AM: Quote from: ozzy554 on June 21, 2021, 08:04:25 AM
The weird thing about Blackie is that he can still sing and his excessive use of backing tracks is completely unnecessary.

He can still sing. But he probably can't handle the strain touring takes on his voice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2021, 04:40:22 PM: When I saw Blackie on the Crimson Idol tour a few years ago it was noticeable how many backing tracks were used. He was still singing though for most of it. It doesn't really bother me, he's a great performer. If he was miming the whole lot or couldn't sing at all, that's a different story. Ben is probably right, just takes some pressure with all the touring. He's not a young man so I can forgive him. They've always put on a great show.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 22, 2021, 07:26:26 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 21, 2021, 04:40:22 PM
When I saw Blackie on the Crimson Idol tour a few years ago it was noticeable how many backing tracks were used. He was still singing though for most of it. It doesn't really bother me, he's a great performer. If he was miming the whole lot or couldn't sing at all, that's a different story. Ben is probably right, just takes some pressure with all the touring. He's not a young man so I can forgive him. They've always put on a great show.

His vocal style can't be too easy to maintain over a tour. It would be tough on the vocal chords I would imagine.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 30, 2021, 11:27:19 AM: Damn, this doesn't sound good.

https://bravewords.com/news/frank-marino-sidelined-by-debilitating-medical-condition-i-am-forced-to-announce-my-immediate-retirement-from-touring-and-possibly-all-things-related-to-continuing-my-career-says-mahogany-rush-guitarist
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 30, 2021, 02:52:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 30, 2021, 11:27:19 AM
Damn, this doesn't sound good.

https://bravewords.com/news/frank-marino-sidelined-by-debilitating-medical-condition-i-am-forced-to-announce-my-immediate-retirement-from-touring-and-possibly-all-things-related-to-continuing-my-career-says-mahogany-rush-guitarist

That's not good at all. He's one guy I've heard a lot of praise for but never checked out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 01, 2021, 04:07:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 30, 2021, 02:52:55 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 30, 2021, 11:27:19 AM
Damn, this doesn't sound good.

https://bravewords.com/news/frank-marino-sidelined-by-debilitating-medical-condition-i-am-forced-to-announce-my-immediate-retirement-from-touring-and-possibly-all-things-related-to-continuing-my-career-says-mahogany-rush-guitarist

That's not good at all. He's one guy I've heard a lot of praise for but never checked out.

I’ve only heard one song, on the Axe Attack album when I was a kid. I remember liking it. I know Paul Gilbert rates him so he must be good.

On a separate note, I went to play my new Queensryche deluxe editions and my CD player has died. I now have no CD player in the house. It’s all Bluetooth speakers. What have we become? 😞 Even the PS4 doesn’t read CDs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2021, 05:58:53 AM: Better go out and buy one Paul before you can't even get them in the shops anymore. :(
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 01, 2021, 06:31:49 AM: This was hot! Helps that it’s one of my fave all-time songs.

https://youtu.be/Hqy6O8no_Ic
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Post by: TAC on July 01, 2021, 05:29:53 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 01, 2021, 06:31:49 AM
This was hot! Helps that it’s one of my fave all-time songs.

https://youtu.be/Hqy6O8no_Ic

That's awesome! MP rocking the Celtics threads!

Funny he's on this because whenever there have been threads about what album would you like to see DT cover, my answer has always been Boston's first album.

Joel Hoekstra..you're creeping me out. lol

And speaking of creeping out, who else wants to have a sleepover at MP's house?
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Post by: TAC on July 04, 2021, 04:44:52 PM: New John Sykes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOdfNEqfmZU

I love the first youtube comment:"When "Chinese Democracy" came out, people were like "WTF took so long"... Then JOHN JAMES SYKES said "Hold my Beer!"..." :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on July 04, 2021, 06:39:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 04, 2021, 04:44:52 PM
New John Sykes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOdfNEqfmZU

I love the first youtube comment:"When "Chinese Democracy" came out, people were like "WTF took so long"... Then JOHN JAMES SYKES said "Hold my Beer!"..." :lol

That's more like it! Enjoyed the riffing coming out of the solo. He certainly has maintained a level of fire in his playing that is unusual for his age ..............having said that it might've been recorded 15 years ago ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on July 05, 2021, 12:08:10 AM: Good to have him back. I liked that.
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Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2021, 05:17:50 AM: Ripping solo.
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Post by: ozzy554 on July 05, 2021, 08:22:17 PM: Ex Uriah Heep/Lucifers Friend vocalist John Lawton has passed away suddenly at the age of 74. The news broke via Uriah Heep's official Facebook page.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 05, 2021, 10:44:33 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on July 05, 2021, 08:22:17 PM
Ex Uriah Heep/Lucifers Friend vocalist John Lawton has passed away suddenly at the age of 74. The news broke via Uriah Heep's official Facebook page.

RIP :-\

NEw from KK : https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=tFjekrILVzM

Not great but much better than Hellbolt Thunderfire of Metal or whatever it was. Ripper sounds like some weird combo of King Diamond and Udo and KK looks like my mother in law (in another 20 years) :lol
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Post by: TAC on July 06, 2021, 03:24:08 PM: THIRTY YEARS AGO TODAY!

Clash Of The Titans

July 6, 1991
Great Woods
Mansfield MA

(https://i.imgur.com/dVDcWB4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7TUmC3G.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JRlQV6b.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KWRsti2.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2021, 04:52:56 PM: One of these things is not like the other.
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Post by: TAC on July 06, 2021, 04:59:12 PM: (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gCxrkl2igGY/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 06, 2021, 07:31:05 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on July 05, 2021, 08:22:17 PM
Ex Uriah Heep/Lucifers Friend vocalist John Lawton has passed away suddenly at the age of 74. The news broke via Uriah Heep's official Facebook page.

Saw this post this morning and I meant to go back to it. His work with Lucifer's Friend is amazing. He was way underrated.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 07, 2021, 08:57:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 05, 2021, 10:44:33 PM
Quote from: ozzy554 on July 05, 2021, 08:22:17 PM
Ex Uriah Heep/Lucifers Friend vocalist John Lawton has passed away suddenly at the age of 74. The news broke via Uriah Heep's official Facebook page.

RIP :-\

NEw from KK : https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=tFjekrILVzM

Not great but much better than Hellbolt Thunderfire of Metal or whatever it was. Ripper sounds like some weird combo of King Diamond and Udo and KK looks like my mother in law (in another 20 years) :lol

It’s better but I just don’t like Ripper’s voice, and he’s a caricature of Rob Halford on Painkiller, shrieking constantly. Not going to bother with this I think.
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Post by: TAC on July 09, 2021, 08:30:51 PM: Watching Accept's set at last weekend's M3 Festival in Maryland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSVVvnOoAqU

I know it's just Wolf Hoffman left, and Mark Tornillo, but I'm really enjoying it. The drummer is excellent.

Too Mean To Die is a solid AF album.
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Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2021, 08:40:11 PM: I didn't take to the new album that much. But I'd need to revisit it.
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Post by: TAC on July 09, 2021, 08:49:22 PM: I listened to it last week. I found there was something about it that was easier on the ears than I remember the last couple being. And I like all of the Tornillo albums. There's been a lot of music released this year, and it's easy to overlook the Accept album, but it's pretty f'n good.
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Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2021, 09:11:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 09, 2021, 08:49:22 PM
I listened to it last week. I found there was something about it that was easier on the ears than I remember the last couple being. And I like all of the Tornillo albums. There's been a lot of music released this year, and it's easy to overlook the Accept album, but it's pretty f'n good.

I'll chuck the CD in the car next week.
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Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2021, 06:01:50 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 09, 2021, 08:30:51 PM
Watching Accept's set at last weekend's M3 Festival in Maryland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSVVvnOoAqU

I know it's just Wolf Hoffman left, and Mark Tornillo, but I'm really enjoying it. The drummer is excellent.

Too Mean To Die is a solid AF album.

I'm watching a bit of this now. They are always enjoyable to just sit down and watch.
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Post by: TAC on July 10, 2021, 02:32:45 PM: So I cut my grass after work today. Obviously I was listening to tunes. While I was weed whacking the walkway, I heard a blip in my air buds. I figured it was some news bulletin or something.
Nope! Apparently my phone had a message for me.. :lol

(https://i.imgur.com/EEvStUt.jpg)

:metal
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Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2021, 02:35:11 PM: :metal
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Post by: cramx3 on July 10, 2021, 07:24:28 PM: :metal
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Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2021, 03:28:16 AM: (https://media.giphy.com/media/5MGFEJS7FIxK8/giphy.gif)
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 11, 2021, 04:30:12 AM: HAHA!!! If it's too loud, you're too old!
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Post by: cramx3 on July 12, 2021, 10:09:38 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 11, 2021, 04:30:12 AM
HAHA!!! If it's too loud, you're too old!

I love this quote from Airheads
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Post by: TAC on July 12, 2021, 11:50:08 AM: I thought Gene Simmons said that.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 12, 2021, 11:52:41 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 12, 2021, 11:50:08 AM
I thought Gene Simmons said that.

Maybe? I know it from the movie, which could have been stolen being it's a rock n roll movie.
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Post by: gazinwales on July 13, 2021, 10:09:30 AM: Chalice Of Sin (Wade Black)
https://youtu.be/bQSAvyscbR8
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Post by: ozzy554 on July 13, 2021, 04:41:26 PM: I guess Roy Z has just joined Graham Bonnet Band. I think Mark Zonder was announced for the new album a while back too so that'll be an interesting lineup. Between this and having Jeff Loomis in alcatrazz he certainly has my curiosity for both his upcoming albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 15, 2021, 05:30:26 PM: Damn.....................can't say I am surprised given the lifestyle , but Jeff Labar from Cinderella gone at 58 :'(
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Post by: TAC on July 15, 2021, 05:41:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 15, 2021, 05:30:26 PM
Damn.....................can't say I am surprised given the lifestyle , but Jeff Labar from Cinderella gone at 58 :'(

Yeah, it was mentioned somewhere else around here. Any word on why?
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Post by: bl5150 on July 15, 2021, 05:53:05 PM: I can only guess but no news I have seen confirming anything. His "health issues" over decades were the reason Cinderella never did more albums so I assume it's either an overdose or his body just gave up on him. Sad.
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Post by: TAC on July 15, 2021, 05:57:55 PM: Oh, I didn't know he had health issues. Or is that code for addictions?
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Post by: ozzy554 on July 15, 2021, 06:46:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 15, 2021, 05:57:55 PM
Oh, I didn't know he had health issues. Or is that code for addictions?

Yeah he pretty much admitted that his alcohol abuse issues were most likely the reason Cinderella went inactive after their brief reunion with Tom's return to music. The interview is a few years old at this point but he mentioned that him and Tom hadn't spoken after some kind of incident at one of their cruise ship shows.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/jeff-labar-says-his-drinking-problem-is-to-blame-for-cinderella-inactivity/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/jeff-labar-says-his-drinking-problem-is-to-blame-for-cinderella-inactivity/)
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Post by: TAC on July 15, 2021, 06:50:19 PM: Cool. Thanks Oz!
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Post by: TAC on July 15, 2021, 07:00:01 PM: Geez, a double whammy for Cinderella..

https://www.metaltalk.net/gary-corbett-former-kiss-and-cinderella-keyboard-player-loses-cancer-battle.php
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Post by: wolfking on July 15, 2021, 07:21:20 PM: Jesus, two in succession.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 17, 2021, 08:08:51 AM: This should cheer everyone up.............some hard rockin new Bon Jovi :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uReGsyzQyw

:\
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 17, 2021, 12:15:39 PM: Oh wow that was horrendous :|
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Post by: TAC on July 17, 2021, 12:31:38 PM: I could see Jon's mouth moving, but I have no idea whose voice that was.

That's actually a great tune though.
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Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2021, 06:38:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 17, 2021, 08:08:51 AM
This should cheer everyone up.............some hard rockin new Bon Jovi :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uReGsyzQyw

:\

:rollin :rollin :rollin

Great Adam Sandler vocal impression Jon. Seriously, what the fuck?
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Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2021, 03:14:04 PM: Why did I click it? Why? Just leave me with my memories.
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Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2021, 03:24:55 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 20, 2021, 03:14:04 PM
Why did I click it? Why? Just leave me with my memories.

:lol
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Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2021, 06:36:13 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 20, 2021, 03:14:04 PM
Why did I click it? Why? Just leave me with my memories.

You're welcome :angel: Gotta do something to keep myself amused :biggrin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/nc7pcgB4/vn.png) :lol
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Post by: Stadler on July 21, 2021, 07:58:54 AM: Vince Neil!

(https://i.imgur.com/dfxr53i.jpg)

Actually, if you know Bon Jovi from 1988 it sounds like shit, but if you didn't know it was him, I kind of like it. I have a friend who's been in bands for years and is making a sort of "mid-life crisis" record now, and he sounds like this (and I like his singing voice).
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Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 21, 2021, 10:54:48 AM: Quote from: Stadler on July 21, 2021, 07:58:54 AM
Actually, if you know Bon Jovi from 1988 it sounds like shit, but if you didn't know it was him, I kind of like it. I have a friend who's been in bands for years and is making a sort of "mid-life crisis" record now, and he sounds like this (and I like his singing voice).
I dunno Stads - I think it was pretty awful. He sounded more like Tracy Chapman than himself! :omg: Had no idea that his voice had declined *that* much. I wonder if it's from improper singing technique, lifestyle choices or genetics. Probably a bit of all 3, tho the way he sounded strained to my uneducated ears, I'm thinking a lot of it might be from improper singing technique. Sad.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 23, 2021, 12:59:23 AM: https://youtu.be/RyaHEBlmaEs

New George Lynch from the upcoming instrumental album. It’s relentless, I’ll give it that. It is intended to be just a widdle fest. I’m looking forward to seeing how it fits in the album.

The blabbermouth article https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/george-lynch-releases-first-single-from-seamless-instrumental-solo-album/
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Post by: WildRanger on July 23, 2021, 01:37:53 AM: Has anyone gotten into Hanoi Rocks?

I've listened their debut "Bangkok Shocks Saigon Shakes Hanoi Rocks" and "Two Steps From the Move" and both albums rock.
I'm surprised this band hadn't achieved any kind of commercial success. They were influential on GnR.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 23, 2021, 04:42:06 AM: Quote from: WildRanger on July 23, 2021, 01:37:53 AM
Has anyone gotten into Hanoi Rocks?

I've listened their debut "Bangkok Shocks Saigon Shakes Hanoi Rocks" and "Two Steps From the Move" and both albums rock.
I'm surprised this band hadn't achieved any kind of commercial success. They were influential on GnR.

Not a fan really, though Up Around The Bend is great. Also, Michael Munroe's Not Fakin' It is a great album.
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Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2021, 06:09:16 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 23, 2021, 12:59:23 AM
https://youtu.be/RyaHEBlmaEs

New George Lynch from the upcoming instrumental album. It’s relentless, I’ll give it that. It is intended to be just a widdle fest. I’m looking forward to seeing how it fits in the album.

The blabbermouth article https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/george-lynch-releases-first-single-from-seamless-instrumental-solo-album/

I really liked that actually.
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Post by: TAC on July 23, 2021, 08:32:58 AM: Quote from: WildRanger on July 23, 2021, 01:37:53 AM
Has anyone gotten into Hanoi Rocks?

I've listened their debut "Bangkok Shocks Saigon Shakes Hanoi Rocks" and "Two Steps From the Move" and both albums rock.
I'm surprised this band hadn't achieved any kind of commercial success. They were influential on GnR.

I love Hanoi Rocks. I actually listened to Two Steps a couple of weeks ago. They seemed to just take hold when Razzle was killed (in the infamous Vince Neil drunk driving crash). Then they kind of disappeared. I've never really followed Michael Monroe's long solo career. I've dropped the needle a couple of times, but never really gave it much chance.

I saw Shooting Gallery open for KISS on their 1992 Revenge club tour and they turned in one of the Top 5 opening slots I've ever witnessed. They were led by Hanoi Rocks' guitarist Andy McCoy, and they even covered Don't You Ever Leave Me. Great song BTW.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 23, 2021, 11:01:32 AM: I played the new Yngwie album earlier. It surprisingly didn’t suck considering it’s just the same 5 licks rearranged as always, but he needs a producer and a mixer. There’s something missing from the sonic range. Drums sound even worse than on his 1st album.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 23, 2021, 12:09:44 PM: Erik Grunwall cover of Headless Cross. It’s lacking the power in the guitars but what a voice he has. One of my favourite singers. Good to see h3s still around.

https://youtu.be/MvTOtJlyj64
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Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2021, 04:32:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 23, 2021, 11:01:32 AM
I played the new Yngwie album earlier. It surprisingly didn’t suck considering it’s just the same 5 licks rearranged as always, but he needs a producer and a mixer. There’s something missing from the sonic range. Drums sound even worse than on his 1st album.

Didn't realise it was out. I'm keen to check it out actually.
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Post by: gazinwales on July 23, 2021, 09:41:54 PM: Another classic from KK and Ripper
https://youtu.be/9QYLAQ1q4RU
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Post by: bl5150 on July 24, 2021, 12:03:19 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 23, 2021, 09:41:54 PM
Another classic from KK and Ripper
https://youtu.be/9QYLAQ1q4RU

said with tongue in cheek I am guessing :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on July 24, 2021, 03:45:51 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 24, 2021, 12:03:19 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on July 23, 2021, 09:41:54 PM
Another classic from KK and Ripper
https://youtu.be/9QYLAQ1q4RU

said with tongue in cheek I am guessing :lol

Sounds like a ManOwaR song where the lines of the verses would be their old song titles.
I nearly turned it off after Ripper sang the first line. His voice doesn’t fit the vibe of the song.
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Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2021, 06:40:27 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 23, 2021, 09:41:54 PM
Another classic from KK and Ripper
https://youtu.be/9QYLAQ1q4RU

This could be the biggest pile of shit I've heard in a long long time.

We're brothers of the road and we rock!
We're burning up the freeway, we never stop.

:lol

Shouldn't have come out of retirement KK.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 25, 2021, 04:46:01 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 24, 2021, 06:40:27 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on July 23, 2021, 09:41:54 PM
Another classic from KK and Ripper
https://youtu.be/9QYLAQ1q4RU

This could be the biggest pile of shit I've heard in a long long time.

We're brothers of the road and we rock!
We're burning up the freeway, we never stop.

:lol

Shouldn't have come out of retirement KK.

The positive- the production is excellent.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 25, 2021, 05:57:17 AM: Kade, have you had a chance to listen to the Yngwie yet?
Having another go now. Sounds better on Apple Music rather than YouTube. I prefer the instrumental tracks to the vocal ones. It’s the best I’ve heard from him in a long time but is essentially the same five licks rearranged 😁 There’s a lot of reused bits from past songs. The Air on a G string bass line gets used again.
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Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2021, 02:43:21 PM: I haven't mate but will try to get on it this week. Good to hear though there's something there worth listening to.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 28, 2021, 02:06:55 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 25, 2021, 02:43:21 PM
I haven't mate but will try to get on it this week. Good to hear though there's something there worth listening to.

Hey, don’t get your hopes up too high. His vocal melodies all sound exactly the same.
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Post by: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 04:42:40 PM: So the same vocal melodies over the same five licks..........I am racing out to buy as I type!
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Post by: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 04:47:02 PM: Gawd................Dusty Hill from ZZ Top just died too. Can't say I was ever a massive fan but what a week :-\
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2021, 04:56:22 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 04:47:02 PM
Gawd................Dusty Hill from ZZ Top just died too. Can't say I was ever a massive fan but what a week :-\

Yeah, never a fan either but bloody hell!

Hope you've been managing through everything alright down there mate. At least we aren't in Sydney.....
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Post by: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 05:04:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 28, 2021, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 04:47:02 PM
Gawd................Dusty Hill from ZZ Top just died too. Can't say I was ever a massive fan but what a week :-\

Yeah, never a fan either but bloody hell!

Hope you've been managing through everything alright down there mate. At least we aren't in Sydney.....

Thanks Kade. Yeah...........rather not be in Sydney but I guess they're one month in and still aren't properly locked down . We're just coming out of our 5th major lockdown (still can't have any house visitors etc...and everything else very limited) which makes 6 months out of the last 14 locked in our houses . So Sydney still have some catching up to do :lol Anyone still standing down here from a business perspective is a bloody legend! I think there is almost a bit of shadenfreude after enduring all the sneering from north of the border for months on end about how they are the "gold standard" of COVID control - they confused good luck with good management and are now paying for it. They're going to be in trouble until Sept/Oct by the looks.

Bring on summer!
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Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2021, 05:20:08 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 05:04:17 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 28, 2021, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 04:47:02 PM
Gawd................Dusty Hill from ZZ Top just died too. Can't say I was ever a massive fan but what a week :-\

Yeah, never a fan either but bloody hell!

Hope you've been managing through everything alright down there mate. At least we aren't in Sydney.....

Thanks Kade. Yeah...........rather not be in Sydney but I guess they're one month in and still aren't properly locked down . We're just coming out of our 5th major lockdown (still can't have any house visitors etc...and everything else very limited) which makes 6 months out of the last 14 locked in our houses . So Sydney still have some catching up to do :lol Anyone still standing down here from a business perspective is a bloody legend! I think there is almost a bit of shadenfreude after enduring all the sneering from north of the border for months on end about how they are the "gold standard" of COVID control - they confused good luck with good management and are now paying for it. They're going to be in trouble until Sept/Oct by the looks.

Bring on summer!

True, you guys have easily had it far worse. And yes, what you say there and from what I've seen, I had some similar thoughts. Complacency crept in and definitely more luck than good management.

Hope the dojo is still kicking along nicely?
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Post by: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 05:33:13 PM: Hanging in there mate , but it's a month to month thing. How many people are going to get jack of in person...............online..........in person...........not sure etc....., so there's never any certainty about anything and you spend half your life updating customers about the latest changes and hoping they read their emails etc.... I am glad to be getting back outside cos after a few weeks of 14hrs a day in front of a screen I'm having issues with dizziness , eye strain etc..
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Post by: TAC on July 28, 2021, 05:34:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 04:47:02 PM
Gawd................Dusty Hill from ZZ Top just died too. Can't say I was ever a massive fan but what a week :-\

No shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2021, 05:38:32 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 05:33:13 PM
Hanging in there mate , but it's a month to month thing. How many people are going to get jack of in person...............online..........in person...........not sure etc....., so there's never any certainty about anything and you spend half your life updating customers about the latest changes and hoping they read their emails etc.... I am glad to be getting back outside cos after a few weeks of 14hrs a day in front of a screen I'm having issues with dizziness , eye strain etc..

No kidding mate. Kudos to you for still being in the game. The uncertainty from a week to week viewpoint would be beyond stressful I'm sure.

Keeping up with all the COVID updates and restrictions is a full time job in itself, not to mention the people that can't take it seriously.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 29, 2021, 02:55:01 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 05:33:13 PM
Hanging in there mate , but it's a month to month thing. How many people are going to get jack of in person...............online..........in person...........not sure etc....., so there's never any certainty about anything and you spend half your life updating customers about the latest changes and hoping they read their emails etc.... I am glad to be getting back outside cos after a few weeks of 14hrs a day in front of a screen I'm having issues with dizziness , eye strain etc..

We’ve got a government who don’t give a fuck now and are just happy for everyone to die, especially if they don’t contribute.

That same government employs me though, so I don’t have to worry about paying bills. Must be tough. I’d stay away from the Yngwie album for now!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2021, 05:23:38 AM: Just had a listen to the new Yngwie. I'm actually surprised, and while it helped to have zero expectations, I thought this was pretty damn enjoyable. Same licks over and over, but it kind of held my attention the whole way through. The vocal songs are quite catchy and Yngwie sounds pretty shit when you compare him to past vocalists, but he's not awful. The production isn't that bad either, sounds similar to me to the Doogie albums truthfully, maybe a bit rougher and muddier, but it's fine. I'm surprised, getting a real KICK out of this one;

(https://i.imgur.com/dOrP52N.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2021, 05:25:07 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 28, 2021, 04:42:40 PM
So the same vocal melodies over the same five licks..........I am racing out to buy as I type!

Actually, this isn't far off the truth.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 01, 2021, 01:55:15 PM: Yeah, I think I said before, he’s making a big deal out of spending a year making the album but 10 months of that was auto tuning the vocals 😁
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 01, 2021, 03:54:20 PM: Just stumbled across this on YouTube and really enjoyed it. Has Ben Jackson from Crimson Glory, and it’s very much in the vein of the first two CG albums.

https://youtu.be/AGjtE4Yj4uI
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 01, 2021, 06:39:20 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 01, 2021, 03:54:20 PM
Just stumbled across this on YouTube and really enjoyed it. Has Ben Jackson from Crimson Glory, and it’s very much in the vein of the first two CG albums.

https://youtu.be/AGjtE4Yj4uI

That album was definitely mentioned in a podcast. It does have a diehard following out there as a bit of an underground classic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 01, 2021, 08:20:14 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 01, 2021, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 01, 2021, 03:54:20 PM
Just stumbled across this on YouTube and really enjoyed it. Has Ben Jackson from Crimson Glory, and it’s very much in the vein of the first two CG albums.

https://youtu.be/AGjtE4Yj4uI

That album was definitely mentioned in a podcast. It does have a diehard following out there as a bit of an underground classic.

Yeah well... we're fogeys - you can't expect us to remember that far back! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 02, 2021, 02:12:12 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 01, 2021, 08:20:14 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 01, 2021, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 01, 2021, 03:54:20 PM
Just stumbled across this on YouTube and really enjoyed it. Has Ben Jackson from Crimson Glory, and it’s very much in the vein of the first two CG albums.

https://youtu.be/AGjtE4Yj4uI

That album was definitely mentioned in a podcast. It does have a diehard following out there as a bit of an underground classic.

Yeah well... we're fogeys - you can't expect us to remember that far back! :biggrin:

Feel the burn!!! One way of saying it’s been too long. I think there are probably some mitigating circumstances for that though ::)

I mentioned on the what album are you listening to that Brent would pop up to say it was on a podcast 😁.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 02, 2021, 05:16:36 AM: ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cfmoran13 on August 02, 2021, 08:20:09 PM: So, apparently Rudy Sarzo is returning to Quiet Riot in 2022. Frankie Banali wanted a "founding member" back in the band. Kinda funny considering Rudy wasn't a founding member. Wasn't he like the 3rd bassist in the band?!? How much longer are they gonna beat this dead horse?!? I think it's time to put QR out to pasture.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2021, 08:23:47 PM: Quiet Riot has been dead for decades now anyway. I've always said, I'll never behoove anyone from making a living, so if that's what Rudy needs to do (I doubt it), then so be it. But I am not interested in the slightest.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 02, 2021, 09:24:50 PM: I don't have any real interest in the band these days (Dubrow was irreplaceable) but I don't see an issue with Sarzo being considered an original member. He's as much an original member as Michael Anthony was in Van Halen and was in the band before Randy Rhoads left which is early, early days.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2021, 10:32:05 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 01, 2021, 03:54:20 PM
Just stumbled across this on YouTube and really enjoyed it. Has Ben Jackson from Crimson Glory, and it’s very much in the vein of the first two CG albums.

https://youtu.be/AGjtE4Yj4uI

Having a listen now as I'm in the office solo. This is really good. I get more of Queensryche feel with some early FW too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 07, 2021, 07:08:43 PM: So I have a major announcement to make!

When listing my Top 10 bands I usually go something like this..

1a. UFO/Michael Schenker
1b. Dream Theater
1c. Iron Maiden
4. Alice Cooper
5. All things Dio
6. Thin Lizzy
7. Kiske Era Helloween

and then it's kind of fluid..

Flotsam & Jetsam
Armored Saint
Metallica
Accept

I am making a major adjustment to my rankings!

1a. UFO/Michael Schenker
1b. Dream Theater
1c. Iron Maiden
4. Alice Cooper
5. Helloween
6. Thin Lizzy

Due to finding my love of the Andi Deris Era over the last few years, it is music that I cannot live without. Things would've been a lot different if Time Of the Oath was their first album out of the gate and not Master Of The Rings.

Anyway..

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 08, 2021, 03:37:21 AM: I'm glad you've finally embraced this amazing era Tim. So many great albums, so much great metal. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 09, 2021, 04:31:20 PM: (https://agentcoop.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/50000_eng.png)

Coming to the coolest fucking thread on the internet for Post #50,000!

DTF is my second family and you guys are the greatest.

Tim
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2021, 05:35:40 PM: Congrats Tim, that's a massive effort! :metal

Here's to 100000. :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 09, 2021, 05:58:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 09, 2021, 04:31:20 PM
(https://agentcoop.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/50000_eng.png)

Coming to the coolest fucking thread on the internet for Post #50,000!

DTF is my second family and you guys are the greatest.

Tim

:ruben:

:biggrin:

This place wouldn't be the same with out you.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 10, 2021, 01:58:21 PM: (https://img.discogs.com/rdKu3DhDuqlqBEy7WwE-TJam5eQ=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-480362-1376335237-9177.jpeg.jpg)

Words cannot express just how amazing this album is. This band ended way too soon.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 10, 2021, 02:53:24 PM: It’s a belter all right.

And congrats on 50 000.
I’m the John Myung around here obviously 😁
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 03:36:35 PM: That Lost Horizon album is an absolute power metal classic. One of the most amazing vocal performances ever also.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 03:37:07 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 10, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
It’s a belter all right.

And congrats on 50 000.
I’m the John Myung around here obviously 😁

Are you saying Tim is MP then? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 10, 2021, 03:41:46 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 03:36:35 PM
That Lost Horizon album is an absolute power metal classic. One of the most amazing vocal performances ever also.

I know you're working on a new Top 50, but if I ever did another one, this album will definitely be added.

Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 10, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
It’s a belter all right.

And congrats on 50 000.
I’m the John Myung around here obviously 😁

Are you saying Tim is MP then? ;D

Forever more, into the night, blistering.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 04:33:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2021, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 03:36:35 PM
That Lost Horizon album is an absolute power metal classic. One of the most amazing vocal performances ever also.

I know you're working on a new Top 50, but if I ever did another one, this album will definitely be added.

These are some of the sorts of albums I'll be looking through again though. Ones that somehow missed the first list but classic records that I have some attachment to that deliver over and over again. Not saying this will be here, but there's a couple of songs on this album that have stood the test of time, so you never know. I've listened to a couple of others I thought might make it but even one I listened to yesterday and thought, 'hmmm.....maybe not.' It's a challenging process but enjoying it. This one will get a spin no doubt.

Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2021, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 10, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
It’s a belter all right.

And congrats on 50 000.
I’m the John Myung around here obviously 😁

Are you saying Tim is MP then? ;D

Forever more, into the night, blistering.

:lol If you can sing that while playing your drums Tim then let's do it. The DTF DT cover band is slowly coming together.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 10, 2021, 04:44:33 PM: Joining the Lost Horizon love! :heart
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on August 10, 2021, 05:32:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2021, 01:58:21 PM
(https://img.discogs.com/rdKu3DhDuqlqBEy7WwE-TJam5eQ=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-480362-1376335237-9177.jpeg.jpg)

Words cannot express just how amazing this album is. This band ended way too soon.

I have never checked this band out, for some reason. My understanding is that the vocalist, Daniel Heiman, is very highly regarded, correct?

BTW, if I may join in on the celebration - congratulations on the 50,000 milestone! :) I am very new here in terms of posting, but it's certainly been a pleasure interacting and reading your posts!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 10, 2021, 05:42:55 PM: Thanks Nick and you've been a refreshing and welcome addition to the DTF community.

A Flame To The Ground Beneath is their 2nd of two albums. If you've never heard this, you need to fix that immediately. :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on August 10, 2021, 06:12:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2021, 05:42:55 PM
Thanks Nick and you've been a refreshing and welcome addition to the DTF community.

A Flame To The Ground Beneath is their 2nd of two albums. If you've never heard this, you need to fix that immediately. :)

I'm on it :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 06:34:16 PM: Quote from: nick_z on August 10, 2021, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2021, 05:42:55 PM
Thanks Nick and you've been a refreshing and welcome addition to the DTF community.

A Flame To The Ground Beneath is their 2nd of two albums. If you've never heard this, you need to fix that immediately. :)

I'm on it :)

Good stuff mate. Post more and yeah, you've been a more than welcome addition here.

Yes, Daniel Heiman is an incredible vocalist. Just wait to you hear him on Think Not Forever and Highlander. The latter is ridiculous. Amazing album.

Their first album was very enjoyable too, but this is another level.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 10, 2021, 06:35:22 PM: I listened to both today at work.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 06:37:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2021, 06:35:22 PM
I listened to both today at work.

I haven't listened to the debut in a very long time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 10, 2021, 06:39:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2021, 06:35:22 PM
I listened to both today at work.

I haven't listened to the debut in a very long time.

Sworn In The Metal Wind. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 10, 2021, 07:24:26 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: nick_z on August 10, 2021, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2021, 05:42:55 PM
Thanks Nick and you've been a refreshing and welcome addition to the DTF community.

A Flame To The Ground Beneath is their 2nd of two albums. If you've never heard this, you need to fix that immediately. :)

I'm on it :)

Good stuff mate. Post more and yeah, you've been a more than welcome addition here.

Guess that makes Nick the Mike Mangini in the cover band? Definitely nice to have new members to the cool kids thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on August 10, 2021, 07:38:35 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 10, 2021, 07:24:26 PM

Guess that makes Nick the Mike Mangini in the cover band? Definitely nice to have new members to the cool kids thread.

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 08:11:40 PM: Who misses out in this cover band, and who is who? :justjen
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 10, 2021, 09:06:15 PM: ;D

Congrats on 50k Tim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyI8A0w3PAQ
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 09:52:04 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 10, 2021, 11:59:59 PM: It's fate that Tim's 50k post coincides exactly with the 33rd anniversary of Winger's debut album. Two monumental achievements :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on August 11, 2021, 07:07:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 06:34:16 PM

Good stuff mate. Post more and yeah, you've been a more than welcome addition here.

Yes, Daniel Heiman is an incredible vocalist. Just wait to you hear him on Think Not Forever and Highlander. The latter is ridiculous. Amazing album.

Their first album was very enjoyable too, but this is another level.

Listened to A Flame to the Ground Beneath. Excellent stuff. I kinda remember people praising this (and the debut) as some underrated power metal gem. Seeing it mentioned here finally got me to check it out ;D The vocals are indeed amazing.

Do you guys know the 2019 debut from Dimhav, "The Boreal Flame"? That's where I actually heard Heiman's voice first.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 11, 2021, 08:47:55 AM: Quote from: nick_z on August 11, 2021, 07:07:27 AM
Do you guys know the 2019 debut from Dimhav, "The Boreal Flame"? That's where I actually heard Heiman's voice first.

Yes! Chad tipped me off to it.

He's also on Warrior's Path's The Mad King from earlier this year. It pretty generic power metal, but Heiman really rips, probably pushes it as hard as he has since Lost Horizon broke up.

He's also awesome on Matt Smith's last charity song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2021, 09:10:37 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 08:11:40 PM
Who misses out in this cover band, and who is who? :justjen

Well, I've got the Jordan look covered... and I did play piano once upon a long assed time ago.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 11, 2021, 01:51:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 10, 2021, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 03:36:35 PM
That Lost Horizon album is an absolute power metal classic. One of the most amazing vocal performances ever also.

I know you're working on a new Top 50, but if I ever did another one, this album will definitely be added.

Quote from: wolfking on August 10, 2021, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 10, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
It’s a belter all right.

And congrats on 50 000.
I’m the John Myung around here obviously 😁

Are you saying Tim is MP then? ;D

Forever more, into the night, blistering.

I’ve got some cream you can rub on that if it helps 😁
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2021, 05:56:20 PM: New John Sykes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHLqf_r7I5c

This album could be pretty good. These songs are nice. He's weak vocally though.
Needs some....

Ronnie Romero! :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2021, 06:46:24 PM: I'm sure Ronnie was available. Ronnie is always available.

I'll check this tonight, last song was pretty good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 12, 2021, 07:34:37 PM: It's the same song (Out Alive) Tim posted a month ago but the original link was removed. Perhaps this is the "official" release .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2021, 07:40:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 12, 2021, 07:34:37 PM
It's the same song (Out Alive) Tim posted a month ago

:blush

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2021, 09:29:53 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 12, 2021, 07:34:37 PM
It's the same song (Out Alive) Tim posted a month ago but the original link was removed. Perhaps this is the "official" release .

:rollin

Lucky Brent brought this up before I clicked the link for myself Tim. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2021, 05:09:41 AM: Like me, Tim's got a good memory, it just isn't very long.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 16, 2021, 03:05:44 PM: Just seen some video of the Dokken show from a couple of days ago. The band are tight but Don is embarrassingly bad. I believe I could do better, and I couldn’t carry a tune in a bucket.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 19, 2021, 02:16:30 PM: I was at a loose end this evening so I watched Bill & Ted Face The Music. Old Keane looks exactly like current Steve Morse! 😁😁

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/31/09/32594926-0-image-a-5_1598862359003.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2021, 02:25:23 PM: Ha! I watched that like 2 weeks ago. I actually thought it wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 19, 2021, 03:41:09 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 19, 2021, 02:25:23 PM
Ha! I watched that like 2 weeks ago. I actually thought it wasn't too bad.

Yeah, it was ok. I see Tosin Abasi did the air guitar notes. The torch has been passed to the new generation 😁
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2021, 04:10:10 PM: Primal Fear have cancelled all their shows this year and next year due to a 'serious illness issue'. Doesn't elaborate any further. That doesn't sound good at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 19, 2021, 05:33:10 PM: Yeah, I saw that. Kinda worried.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 20, 2021, 12:39:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 19, 2021, 04:10:10 PM
Primal Fear have cancelled all their shows this year and next year due to a 'serious illness issue'. Doesn't elaborate any further. That doesn't sound good at all.

Must be Ralph surely? Anyone else is replaceable on a temporary basis.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2021, 03:48:24 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 20, 2021, 12:39:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 19, 2021, 04:10:10 PM
Primal Fear have cancelled all their shows this year and next year due to a 'serious illness issue'. Doesn't elaborate any further. That doesn't sound good at all.

Must be Ralph surely? Anyone else is replaceable on a temporary basis.

Thought the same. Anyone besides him is replaceable, even Matt.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2021, 05:38:57 AM: https://youtu.be/ssR5qzz-iWU

Hey KK, Hammerfall called, they want their song back.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on August 26, 2021, 06:04:19 AM: 12 seconds was enough for me... :xbones
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2021, 06:11:06 AM: Just awful. Fucking sad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on August 26, 2021, 04:33:56 PM: I could only listen to the first 30 seconds or so because I had to run out to work and I have no ambition to go back and finish it. My interest in this album diminishes with every single. I'm starting to see why Halford wrote pretty much all the lyrics if this is the best KK and co. can come up with. Musically solid but the cheesiness of everything else ruins it for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2021, 04:39:27 PM: Ripper also was never one to write good lyrics.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on August 26, 2021, 04:51:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2021, 04:39:27 PM
Ripper also was never one to write good lyrics.

Yeah I've noticed that my favorite Ripper albums were ones where he has minimal or no writing credits. Iced earth, Yngwie, and I can't find any song writing info for Charred Walls of the Damned but I remember liking those.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 27, 2021, 08:36:54 AM: An update on the Nirvana baby lawsuit

(https://i.postimg.cc/QMkVCn4L/vhbaby.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 27, 2021, 09:08:04 AM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2021, 03:15:58 PM: haha, seems legit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 27, 2021, 06:47:42 PM: New Dawn Of Solace!

They had one of my favorite albums last year, and probably my SOTY as well.

White Noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAjZ-tchYt0

This video is fucking dark!
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2021, 07:48:05 PM: Damn, that's quite a shocking video. I wasn't keen on them after you pimped them initially but tried a few more times as you rated them so highly. I really came around to their sound and the first album was really enjoyable. Similar vein here, will check out.
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Post by: TAC on August 27, 2021, 08:14:36 PM: Their last album wasn't exactly in the TAC wheelhouse, but it just struck a chord with me. Lead Wings was such a great tune.
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2021, 09:31:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 27, 2021, 08:14:36 PM
Their last album wasn't exactly in the TAC wheelhouse, but it just struck a chord with me. Lead Wings was such a great tune.

Yeah, that song was the highlight for me too.
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Post by: gazinwales on August 27, 2021, 10:52:07 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2021, 06:11:06 AM
Just awful. Fucking sad.

The YT comments are quite positive though....
I wonder if Halford has heard or seen the video's, he would be wetting himself with laughter.
Incidentally Rob turned 70 this week, still going strong.
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Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2021, 10:54:52 PM: I have scrolled through the comments from all the songs so far. I don't get it, most are overwhelmingly positive. Im missing something obviously.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 28, 2021, 08:42:34 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 27, 2021, 10:54:52 PM
I have scrolled through the comments from all the songs so far. I don't get it, most are overwhelmingly positive. Im missing something obviously.

There’s no point me even bothering is there.
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Post by: nick_z on August 28, 2021, 08:53:29 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 27, 2021, 06:47:42 PM
New Dawn Of Solace!

They had one of my favorite albums last year, and probably my SOTY as well.

White Noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAjZ-tchYt0

This video is fucking dark!

Dawn of Solace! Same here, Waves was one of my top albums from last year. New song is very good but, yes, the video is a tad disturbing ;)
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Post by: wolfking on August 29, 2021, 03:35:50 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 28, 2021, 08:42:34 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 27, 2021, 10:54:52 PM
I have scrolled through the comments from all the songs so far. I don't get it, most are overwhelmingly positive. Im missing something obviously.

There’s no point me even bothering is there.

There was no point even KK bothering.
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Post by: nick_z on August 30, 2021, 06:24:22 PM: (https://img.discogs.com/8WLbWUGK-IoFdEPBLgfPJ4B8Mfw=/fit-in/600x594/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-6901067-1429110151-9683.jpeg.jpg)

Kind of a random re-discovery as I was writing on the retro album thread - 1993 in particular. I was mentioning how a bunch of bands were coming out, more or less following DT's lead (and I&W in particular). One of the albums I purchased that year is this "Time is Gone" by German band Pan Ram. To be fair, this is (much) more Queensryche than DT (there isn't much DT influence to be detected here, really)

Production is so-so (drums in particular), although it gives the record a certain charm. Guitar work is very good, as are the vocals. The opener, "Target You" is a good representation of the album: again, the Queensryche vibes are strong, but the song is pretty great. There are also more straight-on metal tracks, like "The Wolf is Out", where the pace picks up. The longest song, "Passion and Crime", starts somewhat "funky" before turning into a lost "Operation:Mindcrime" track ;) Then there's some more 80s, class-metal influence here and there ("Bad Things", "Don't Give Up").

Anyway, nothing earth-shattering, but a cool little album I happened to remember from way back...

In case you are curious, it looks like it's all on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95i-evBo77I
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Post by: TAC on August 30, 2021, 06:58:34 PM: Wow, what an obscure album..

Listening to the first song. The singer actually reminds me a bit of Jani Lane.
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Post by: nick_z on August 31, 2021, 04:38:03 PM: (https://img.discogs.com/SRt6jPEMMexPoMkEZoYKOKbh48c=/fit-in/580x587/filters:strip_icc():format(webp):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-489322-1232477087.jpeg.jpg)

What do the wise people on this thread think of this often ignored album from Tony Martin-fronted Black Sabbath?

I always had a fondness for it. I actually purchased the year it came out, and hadn't explored the whole Black Sabbath canon yet. I listened to it today after quite some time, and still found it to be very good. Well produced, with great performances (Iommi-Butler!). I like that the more "metal" Sabbath (typical of Martin's albums) is sprinkled with doomy stuff (Virtual Death, Evil Eye)...and there are songs where both dimensions coexist (Immaculate Deception). There's also some more modern-sounding stuff, like Psychophobia, that sounds pretty cool. And while we are at it, a cheesy sounding ballad as well (Dying for love) ;)

All in all, not "classic" Sabbath, but a respectable album in my book.
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Post by: gazinwales on August 31, 2021, 04:57:36 PM: Ignored by many as it's been out of print for many years (label went bust) and it's not on any streaming platforms.
If you have heard it you'll know that it's a pretty good album.
Hopefully the upcoming re-issue will make it more available for everyone to check out.
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2021, 05:18:02 PM: Cross Purposes is by far my favorite of the Martin Era. I think it's a great album.

Nick, when I was younger, I completely ignored the Martin Era. They came around here at least 2 times, and I totally skipped it. I was so against calling it Black Sabbath. What am I a fool? That's what I thought. I thought using the name was a money grab, and I resented it.

I now really enjoy the Martin Era, other than Forbidden. I will get the box set that has been mentioned when it comes out.
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2021, 05:52:50 PM: Oh jeez, don't get me started. My fav Sabbath era. CP comes after after HC and Tyr, but such an amazing album. Underrated.
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Post by: nick_z on August 31, 2021, 06:14:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2021, 05:18:02 PM
Cross Purposes is by far my favorite of the Martin Era. I think it's a great album.

Nick, when I was younger, I completely ignored the Martin Era. They came around here at least 2 times, and I totally skipped it. I was so against calling it Black Sabbath. What am I a fool? That's what I thought. I thought using the name was a money grab, and I resented it.

I now really enjoy the Martin Era, other than Forbidden. I will get the box set that has been mentioned when it comes out.

I can understand thinking that - after all, in many ways the band sounded quite different from what "made" them Black Sabbath. But good music is good music and yes, there's definitely quality in Tony Martin's albums. I should mention I have never heard Headless Cross, as I didn't have it back then, and now it appears to be quite difficult to find (I guess I could try Youtube :)). Of the TM albums I have, Cross Purposes is my favorite as well, but Tyr and Eternal Idol are great too (I guess Forbidden not so much, but I haven't revisited it in forever).

I wasn't aware of any upcoming boxsets...if they were to reissue Headless Cross, I'd be happy to grab it...
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2021, 06:26:41 PM: Headless Cross made my top 50. It's a brilliant 80's metal album. Iommi is on absolute fire and there is not a dud song on the whole thing. When Death Calls is a top Sabbath song for me and could even be my fav. Brian May does a solo on that song too which is absolutely incredible.
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2021, 06:39:58 PM: Hey Nick, if you don't mind me asking..how old are you, and in what part of the world are you in? Not stalking! ;D
Shoot me a PM if you don't want to answer here. :)
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2021, 06:56:25 PM: Nick, don't trust Tim.
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Post by: gazinwales on August 31, 2021, 07:15:14 PM: Apparently Iommi has the rights back to all the IRS label era TM albums.
Forbidden is being remixed and the others remastered, not sure if a box set is planned, but here's hoping.
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Post by: gazinwales on August 31, 2021, 07:21:04 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 31, 2021, 06:26:41 PM
Headless Cross made my top 50. It's a brilliant 80's metal album. Iommi is on absolute fire and there is not a dud song on the whole thing. When Death Calls is a top Sabbath song for me and could even be my fav. Brian May does a solo on that song too which is absolutely incredible.

Headless Cross is killer, love the sound, Cozy's drums are amazing, hope it's not brick walled into obliteration with the remaster.
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Post by: TAC on August 31, 2021, 07:22:02 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 31, 2021, 06:56:25 PM
Nick, don't trust Tim.

Are you sure it was your partner that handed you the new bottle of shampoo while you were in the shower this morning? You didn't find her arm a little hairy?
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Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2021, 07:22:45 PM: Yeah, the original sounds so dynamic and full when you crank it. The drums are a highlight for me too. Iommi's tone as always is killer but very strong here.
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Post by: gazinwales on August 31, 2021, 09:28:04 PM: Yeah a real throwback when you crank an album and it sounded better.
These days most metal albums sound terrible and the louder the worse they sound.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2021, 09:46:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2021, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 31, 2021, 06:56:25 PM
Nick, don't trust Tim.

Are you sure it was your partner that handed you the new bottle of shampoo while you were in the shower this morning? You didn't find her arm a little hairy?

:lol that's creepy as fuck!
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Post by: Lowdz on September 01, 2021, 02:44:57 AM: I don’t think I’ve heard Cross Purposes. I don’t remember doing, anyway.
Headless Cross is a great album though. All the Tony Martin era albums are. Not sure why I didn’t bother with CP as it’s not like I didn’t rate them.

And watch out for Tim. He had his own shower experience with Kip Winger - that’s why he hates them so much 😁😁
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 05:13:09 AM: Not sure if you liked Forbidden Paul, that's easily the weakest but CP is quality.
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Post by: ozzy554 on September 01, 2021, 05:33:10 AM: While Cross Purposes isn't my personal favorite that goes to either headless cross or TYR I think it's the most underrated from the Era. Of course one of the best songs from it "what's the use" was only on the Japan release.

As for forbidden it's still my least favorite but it has grown on me. The album might have some of my favorite Iommi riffs on it. Shaking off the chains is my personal favorite from the album. Ok enough album but I would skip the opening track Illusion of Power. Worst choice to start the album. Should've been buried in the middle
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 05:49:23 AM: Shaking Off the Chains is probably my fav after the wonderful title track. Next in line is the excellent bonus track, Loser Gets it All.
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Post by: nick_z on September 01, 2021, 06:17:28 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 31, 2021, 06:39:58 PM
Hey Nick, if you don't mind me asking..how old are you, and in what part of the world are you in? Not stalking! ;D
Shoot me a PM if you don't want to answer here. :)

Quote from: wolfking on August 31, 2021, 06:56:25 PM
Nick, don't trust Tim.

:rollin

Happy to actually introduce myself, since I haven't done it elsewhere in the forum...

I'm 44 - my birthday was just last week! Was born and raised in Italy. Came to the US (New Jersey, to be more specific) in 2003 for graduate school , found who would become my wife in 2008 and, well, never went back ;D Not literally - I just mean I have lived permanently in the US since :)

We were in NJ for a few years and we moved to PA about five years ago. We live in Bucks County (if you happen to be familiar with the area), so we are still very close to the Garden State...
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 06:19:58 AM: Happy Birthday for last week and welcome again. Nice to have another like minded fellow around.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 01, 2021, 07:34:45 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 05:13:09 AM
Not sure if you liked Forbidden Paul, that's easily the weakest but CP is quality.

Think I tried it when it was discussed before. Again I don’t remember anything if I did.
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Post by: TAC on September 01, 2021, 07:48:12 AM: Quote from: nick_z on September 01, 2021, 06:17:28 AM
Happy to actually introduce myself, since I haven't done it elsewhere in the forum...

Cool, thanks Nick!

I feel I can understand/appreciate others' perspective if I know a little about things like age and locale.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2021, 04:10:25 PM: Anyone else read Nicks intro with this in mind?

(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/0/05/Nick_Riviera.png)
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Post by: TAC on September 01, 2021, 04:22:17 PM: Um.,.no...no idea who that is. :P
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Post by: nick_z on September 01, 2021, 04:34:14 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 01, 2021, 04:10:25 PM
Anyone else read Nicks intro with this in mind?

(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/0/05/Nick_Riviera.png)

Quote from: TAC on September 01, 2021, 04:22:17 PM
Um.,.no...no idea who that is. :P

:biggrin:

Dr. Nick Riviera ...quack doctor from The Simpsons ;D Other than sharing (sort of) the first name...not THAT kind of doctor anyway ;)
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Post by: nick_z on September 01, 2021, 06:04:12 PM: Another re-discovery for the retro albums thread:

(https://img.discogs.com/fHP7WPMoZGodKDYv0cTS139cVqQ=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3277913-1353620696-5105.jpeg.jpg)

Siam - The Language of Menace

It has Tony Mills (RIP), of Shy fame, on vocals. Not quite sure how it did when it came out in 1994 (probably not great), but I remember some reviews were praising it. It's kind of Queensryche-lite, as in: an easy-listening version of easy-listening Queensryche :). It's actually pretty good, especially when it rocks a little harder, and the vocals are quite impressive. They had a second album, but I never heard it.

Anyone else here familiar with this?

I don't think it's on streaming platforms, but it's on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puPTSzFCJOg
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Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:09:20 PM: Quote from: nick_z on September 01, 2021, 06:04:12 PM
Another re-discovery for the retro albums thread:

(https://img.discogs.com/fHP7WPMoZGodKDYv0cTS139cVqQ=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3277913-1353620696-5105.jpeg.jpg)

Siam - The Language of Menace

It has Tony Mills (RIP), of Shy fame, on vocals. Not quite sure how it did when it came out in 1994 (probably not great), but I remember some reviews were praising it. It's kind of Queensryche-lite, as in: an easy-listening version of easy-listening Queensryche :). It's actually pretty good, especially when it rocks a little harder, and the vocals are quite impressive. They had a second album, but I never heard it.

Anyone else here familiar with this?

I don't think it's on streaming platforms, but it's on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puPTSzFCJOg

Yeah.........I used SIAM as a bit of a Queensryche substitute post Empire but the albums for me (including their 2nd album) are about 20% great and 80% just okay but yeah - did enjoy the better songs. The boys will be surprised to know that I played tracks from this album on a little podcast I used to do around here :lol
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Post by: TAC on September 01, 2021, 07:11:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:09:20 PM
The boys will be surprised to know that I played tracks from this album on a little podcast I used to do around here :lol

Not surprised, but I definitely don't remember. I'm sure you mentioned Tony Mills, and that should've gotten my attention.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:14:21 PM: I even mentioned them briefly in my Top 50 back in the day under #63

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41830.msg1825671#msg1825671
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 07:16:05 PM: Nick, just an FYI, you will never stump Brent when posting albums in this thread......never.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on September 01, 2021, 07:17:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:14:21 PM
I even mentioned them briefly in my Top 50 back in the day under #63

Goddamn, talking about reading the fine print. :lol
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Post by: nick_z on September 01, 2021, 07:24:52 PM: You guys crack me up :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on September 01, 2021, 07:27:52 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:09:20 PM
Yeah.........I used SIAM as a bit of a Queensryche substitute post Empire but the albums for me (including their 2nd album) are about 20% great and 80% just okay but yeah - did enjoy the better songs. The boys will be surprised to know that I played tracks from this album on a little podcast I used to do around here :lol

I've been hearing about this podcast a few times in my short time here...I understand you are not doing it currently...sounds like you had cool material on it, any chance for a comeback on the horizon? :)
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Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:31:45 PM: Quote from: nick_z on September 01, 2021, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:09:20 PM
Yeah.........I used SIAM as a bit of a Queensryche substitute post Empire but the albums for me (including their 2nd album) are about 20% great and 80% just okay but yeah - did enjoy the better songs. The boys will be surprised to know that I played tracks from this album on a little podcast I used to do around here :lol

I've been hearing about this podcast a few times in my short time here...I understand you are not doing it currently...sounds like you had cool material on it, any chance for a comeback on the horizon? :)

Who knows...............last one was in 2019 which is the last time I wasn't thrashing around trying to keep a business afloat in lockdown while also home schooling. I have gone from someone who listened to music for much of the day to not being able to remember the last time I cranked an album.

Hopefully :)
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Post by: TAC on September 01, 2021, 07:33:26 PM: Wasn't the 2019 podcast actually your best of 2017? :lol

Nick, they're all listed in the OP.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:36:59 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 01, 2021, 07:33:26 PM
Wasn't the 2019 podcast actually your best of 2017? :lol

Nick, they're all listed in the OP.

Probably................I think I have one or two that were left 90% complete but yeah.......I got way behind as it is and then I started a business and then COVID and then lockdown for basically 12 of the last 18 months (and still going)

I really miss my music but still manage to pop in here and deal with these old codgers. :lol

It seems some/most of the old podcast links still work.
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 07:40:53 PM: Feel for you down there mate with things getting somewhat out of hand again. Just never ends for you guys.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 08:06:23 PM: Thanks Kade...............appreciate it. Melbourne will soon hold the record for the most locked down days for any major city in the world and for businesses it has been much longer than the official "lockdown" numbers. November is looking like best case at the moment. We had COVID done and dusted and then started opening the borders to returning Aussies and from there it was inevitable without decent quarantine facilities and prompt vaccination rollouts. The states other than Vic and NSW are benefitting from their relative isolation but it will get everywhere eventually. Any business left standing in Victoria at the moment deserves a medal......might buy myself one :)
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 11:34:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 08:06:23 PM
Thanks Kade...............appreciate it. Melbourne will soon hold the record for the most locked down days for any major city in the world and for businesses it has been much longer than the official "lockdown" numbers. November is looking like best case at the moment. We had COVID done and dusted and then started opening the borders to returning Aussies and from there it was inevitable without decent quarantine facilities and prompt vaccination rollouts. The states other than Vic and NSW are benefitting from their relative isolation but it will get everywhere eventually. Any business left standing in Victoria at the moment deserves a medal......might buy myself one :)

That's actually incredible.

It is inevitable it will come back here, we are on high alert again for a truck driver coming back from Sydney or something. Guy lives in 2 suburbs from me lol.

Hopefully the dojo is keeping people entertained at least during lockdown mate. We should all chip in and get you the hardest rocking medal around mate. :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on September 02, 2021, 03:27:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 07:16:05 PM
Nick, just an FYI, you will never stump Brent when posting albums in this thread......never.

I thought I knew my 80s/early 90s metal until Brent showed up around these parts. Realised I was a n00b 😁😁😁
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2021, 05:03:42 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 07:16:05 PM
Nick, just an FYI, you will never stump Brent when posting albums in this thread......never.

This. I tried once with a local Canadian act I saw in a pub once, and bought their cassette. They never got any exposure anywhere. I don't even think Google has much on them.

He knew of them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2021, 06:01:37 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 02, 2021, 05:03:42 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 01, 2021, 07:16:05 PM
Nick, just an FYI, you will never stump Brent when posting albums in this thread......never.

This. I tried once with a local Canadian act I saw in a pub once, and bought their cassette. They never got any exposure anywhere. I don't even think Google has much on them.

He knew of them.

Brent is Google.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 02, 2021, 06:53:42 AM: :rollin
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Post by: nick_z on September 02, 2021, 07:27:04 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:14:21 PM
I even mentioned them briefly in my Top 50 back in the day under #63

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41830.msg1825671#msg1825671

Wow, lots of interesting stuff in this thread. I can't believe you have Ricochet in there :) I had that one too and always enjoyed it. Laid-back prog metal...I might give it a listen today!

I was able to grab these kinds of albums at the time as there was this guy at my local CD store that would get all sorts of relatively obscure metal (prog, melodic etc.)...It was the early 90s, so a lot of the music I'm seeing in your thread. It was all the more remarkable because, for the most part, the store had nothing of the sort. But he was slowly building this niche and it was great (not for my wallet, but still).

I might post a few more myself. Seems like this is the right crowd :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2021, 08:49:52 AM: Quote from: nick_z on September 02, 2021, 07:27:04 AM
I might post a few more myself. Seems like this is the right crowd :biggrin:

Right you are, Kimosabe.

Post away.
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2021, 01:28:49 PM: Yeah mate, post more.
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Post by: nick_z on September 02, 2021, 02:43:56 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 01, 2021, 07:14:21 PM
I even mentioned them briefly in my Top 50 back in the day under #63
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41830.msg1825671#msg1825671

Quoting again the link to your top 50...

Haven't had the time to carefully go through the entire thread, of course (damn job :biggrin:), but I skimmed your posts in it...it's pretty amazing how it looks like we were discovering the same albums at the same time. I mentioned elsewhere that early 90s period was when I was truly getting into music, finding new bands etc...1992 was particularly momentous, not least because of, you know, that insignificant album called "Images and Words" which I happened to buy that year :)

If I were to do my top 50, it likely wouldn't have the same share of "melodic metal/hard rock" (for lack of a better descriptor) as yours. To be clear, I actually like pretty much ALL of the albums you listed. It's just that my list would have a larger weight on the "darker/heavier" side of metal, next to the prog and the melodic.

That said, in some instances the overlap is almost eerie! Especially some of the the albums you mention as your favorite /near favorites in that early 90s period. Colour Temple by Vanden Plas, for example. You nailed the description. I like many of their albums - but that debut, with the combination of melodic metal and some prog, really stood out and is my favorite of theirs. Then Threshold's Psychedelicatessen...count me in the camp considering it near their very best (if not the best), thanks in large part to Glynn Morgan. The severely underappreciated Conception (I personally love their last pre-hiatus album Flow too...and I was quite happy with their comeback!). And that little gem that is House of Spirit's Turn of the Tide! Wasn't quite sure how many actually know that one. Or the appreciation for early Stratovarius (I give Dreamspace the overall edge myself, but I agree Fourth Dimension is great)...

I wish I'd been around to actively comment on that thread, but I figured I could share some tidbits in here, since this thread appears to share many of the same participants ;D

Anyway, it was a nice trip down memory lane...
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2021, 04:49:35 PM: Wolfking...clear your inbox!
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2021, 05:10:28 PM: Sorry teach.
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2021, 05:11:50 PM: (https://c.tenor.com/gEMRtIVXMDQAAAAM/judges-warn.gif)
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Post by: nick_z on September 02, 2021, 06:38:20 PM: (https://img.discogs.com/ykOyev_rUsgPuMo7v7mxmxdvWd8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-3892781-1348321283-9213.jpeg.jpg)

Labyrinth - No Limits (1996)

This is the debut album from fellow Italians Labyrinth...I saw that there was some appreciation for their second (and breakthrough, relatively speaking) album Return to Heaven Denied, so I thought why not. Heaven Denied is well regarded in the Euro-power scene and, while that's not necessarily my main scene, I've always enjoyed the album: good song and melodies, and a great vocalist in Roberto Tiranti.

The debut, No Limits, has Fabio Lione on vocals (before he went on to sing for about 10 different bands). Here, however, the band members still use stage names (not sure what they were thinking. Joe Terry? Anders Rain? Chris Breeze?? Really? :biggrin:) Anyway - this is, in my view, a pretty cool record. Production is not great, and the performances are not necessarily as tight as in the follow-up, but the sound is pretty unique and there's more variety throughout the tracklist. Less straight-on power, for sure. The songs have a few more twists and turns ("Midnight Resistance", "No Limits") and the keyboards often have a techno/trance sound to them that set this apart from other power-prog-ish albums of the period. Heck, there is even a full blown cover of a techno/trance song ("Vertigo") that was pretty popular at the time ;D Pretty good ballad in "Time Has Come" too. And "Piece of time" is a tune so catchy it should've been a hit-single!

Lione does a very good job, his endearing Italian accent notwithstanding ;) Overall, the whole thing sounds a bit dated but the material is quite strong.

I don't think this is on streaming platforms, but YouTube has it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC6uVUTEJ1U
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2021, 06:40:46 PM: I've never really followed up on Labyrinth.

I know the guitarist formed Vision Divine, and I love their stuff, especially the Fabio fronted Destination Set To Nowhere. That album is great!
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Post by: nick_z on September 02, 2021, 06:55:27 PM: Have you ever checked out Return to Heaven Denied? That's a pretty great power metal record, with some teeny tiny prog sprinkles on top...especially mid-career Fates Warning (the almost-title track Heaven Denied...that chorus, it could totally be Ray Alder singing it)
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Post by: bl5150 on September 02, 2021, 07:03:56 PM: Quote from: nick_z on September 02, 2021, 06:55:27 PM
Have you ever checked out Return to Heaven Denied? That's a pretty great power metal record, with some teeny tiny prog sprinkles on top...especially mid-career Fates Warning (the almost-title track Heaven Denied...that chorus, it could totally be Ray Alder singing it)

Hey Nick..........thanks for the feedback above..........cool to have you in here. When I did that Top 50 my tastes had heavied up a bit but it was based on the most influential albums in my life and I went through a long AOR/melodic hard rock phase before moving into heavier stuff, so the chilldhood influenece was more towards the rock side.

Return To Heaven Denied was also in my top 50 - seems we have a lot in common with musical taste
:)
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2021, 07:05:54 PM: I think a lot of our Top 50's reflected influential albums.
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2021, 07:21:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 02, 2021, 06:40:46 PM
I've never really followed up on Labyrinth.

I know the guitarist formed Vision Divine, and I love their stuff, especially the Fabio fronted Destination Set To Nowhere. That album is great!

By far the best VD album. A ripper.
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Post by: TAC on September 02, 2021, 07:36:43 PM: I loved Stream Of Consciousness too.
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Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2021, 07:37:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on September 02, 2021, 07:36:43 PM
I loved Stream Of Consciousness too.

I have a few if their albums, they are all decent.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 03, 2021, 06:27:14 AM: I've got both Heaven Denied albums, and their release this year - Welcome to the Absurd Circus - is a beauty.

Wish they released a formal recording of their performance at of Return to Heaven Denied from PPUSA a few years back. The Return to Live DVD is just painful to watch.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2021, 10:08:22 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 02, 2021, 07:03:56 PM
Quote from: nick_z on September 02, 2021, 06:55:27 PM
Have you ever checked out Return to Heaven Denied? That's a pretty great power metal record, with some teeny tiny prog sprinkles on top...especially mid-career Fates Warning (the almost-title track Heaven Denied...that chorus, it could totally be Ray Alder singing it)

Hey Nick..........thanks for the feedback above..........cool to have you in here. When I did that Top 50 my tastes had heavied up a bit but it was based on the most influential albums in my life and I went through a long AOR/melodic hard rock phase before moving into heavier stuff, so the chilldhood influenece was more towards the rock side.

Return To Heaven Denied was also in my top 50 - seems we have a lot in common with musical taste
:)

I’m working my way through it again atm, it made me play Never Neverland yesterday :metal
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Post by: nick_z on September 03, 2021, 10:42:36 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 03, 2021, 10:08:22 AM

I’m working my way through it again atm, it made me play Never Neverland yesterday :metal

Never, Neverland is SO good, my favorite Annihilator album. The riffs and solos are amazing on that thing. The first half is basically untouchable. A couple of lesser songs in the second (Kraf Dinner, Reduced to Ash), but this is a classic of technical thrash.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2021, 02:06:20 PM: Quote from: nick_z on September 03, 2021, 10:42:36 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 03, 2021, 10:08:22 AM

I’m working my way through it again atm, it made me play Never Neverland yesterday :metal

Never, Neverland is SO good, my favorite Annihilator album. The riffs and solos are amazing on that thing. The first half is basically untouchable. A couple of lesser songs in the second (Kraf Dinner, Reduced to Ash), but this is a classic of technical thrash.

Where should I go next? I have tried Alice previously but it didn’t stick with me. The singer was the big issue I think.
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Post by: nick_z on September 03, 2021, 03:16:43 PM: Well, Annihilator - or perhaps I should say Jeff Waters, since he IS Annihilator - are an extremely frustrating band. With the talent he has on guitar, you'd have expected more quality throughout the significant number of albums they put out. Alas, for the most part, that's not the case.

Alice in Hell is the other generally recognized "classic" in the discography. I think it's great (although not as good as Never, Neverland), but I get that you might be put off by the singer.

Their third album, Set the World on Fire, is an interesting one. I personally love it, but don't expect anything similar to Never, Neverland. The thrash is mostly gone and the sound is overall much softer. Yet, the songs are great, in my opinion, and the guitar work is excellent. And it has Mr. Mangini on drums (for most, not all, tracks)! Lyrics are mostly on the silly side, as you'd expect from the band, but it doesn't matter that much. Check out the title-track, No Zone, Knight Jumps Queen and Brain Dance (the latter is all over the place) for heavier stuff, Bats in the Belfry and Snake in the Grass for Annihilator's unique take on hard rock/classic metal. There are a couple of ballads - Phoenix Rising has more of an epic feel, somewhat cheesy but effective, Sounds Good to Me is a bit unusual and musically interesting - it's pretty up-tempo and it has these beautiful, clean arpeggiated guitars all over (Jeff Waters is a master of those!). Anyway, give it a try. The quality is there, you just kinda have to forget it's Annihilator ;)

After this, um, it's a bit of a mess. The following album, King of the Kill, has Jeff Waters himself on vocals. He's not terrible, actually. There's some reprise of a slightly thrashier sound, but the album is again pretty varied. Some decent songs (the title track, Hell is a War, Second to None), but it was a disappointment for me when it came out. Plus, this is where Waters starts the tradition of rehashing large chunks of old songs, literally. Previous albums would have some nuggets/throwbacks, but it gets worse from here.

After a couple of missteps (Refresh the Demon, Remains) there's an attempt to go back to the fast 'n' heavy roots with Criteria For a Black Widow. I never particularly loved it - plus, it has the singer from Alice in Hell, so it might not be for you :)

Then comes what I personally find the last all-around good Annihilator album: Carnival Diablos. Another change at the mic, this time bringing in Joe Comeau, formerly in Overkill (on guitars, though). He does a very good job, and has an uncanny ability to mimic a variety of vocal styles (from aggressive, to Halford-like, to Dickinson-like). Which, incidentally, is also one problem with this album: generally very good songs, but it almost feels like it was written as a compilation of songs in the styles of different bands - Judas Priest (Time Bomb), Slayer (Hunter Killer), Iron Maiden (Epic of War), and AC/DC (Shallow Grave) - so it sounds kind of gimmicky at times. But the riffs are great again (Denied, Battered), the title-track is very cool (with a beautiful Rush-like melodic interlude) and there is an instrumental (Liquid Oval) where Jeff Waters once again showcases his melodic sensibilities. This is overall a fun album, and I'd recommend a listen.

There's a second album with Comeau, Waking the Fury. Not bad, but a drop in quality for me (plus, the guitar sound is bizarre)

Then you have the Dave Padden-fronted era. He's actually a pretty talented dude, also playing guitar live. The voice is a bit of an acquired taste, I guess. But he was the singer with the longest tenure in the band (5 albums). This overall becomes a blur for me, as I stopped following closely. What I heard was very inconsistent - both across and within albums. Maybe someone here with better knowledge of this era can point you to the better material. I can tell you that, among the ones I've heard, I found "Feast" (2013) to be pretty good. It's also the last with Padden.

After that, there's three more with Jeff Waters back on vocals. I think I've listened to them a few times here and there, and the general impression was a newfound aggression, but also way less creative riffing and LOTS of recycling ;D

Sooo...LONG story short...if you are wondering where to next - I'd say try Set the World on Fire and Carnival Diablos. Both different from what you've heard, but still good. Then maybe Feast, and a couple of the recent ones (the last is 2020) for some more aggressive material with Jeff Waters singing. Let me know how this goes!
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Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2021, 04:15:50 PM: I’ll give those two a go and report back.
My abiding memory of Annihilator is that they sounded amateurish. Like Metal Church in that regard for me. Not sure how else to explain it. Waters is clearly an immense guitar player though.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2021, 04:51:36 PM: Brent, just finished retreading your top 5PN and realised there’s a couple there I haven’t played since you did it and even longer. Going to have to listen to Conception and Brazen Abbot. Completely forgot about them.
Eye of the Storm on now!
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 03, 2021, 07:28:34 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 03, 2021, 04:51:36 PM
Brent, just finished retreading your top 5PN and realised there’s a couple there I haven’t played since you did it and even longer. Going to have to listen to Conception and Brazen Abbot. Completely forgot about them.
Eye of the Storm on now!

All four BA albums are top shelf.
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Post by: nick_z on September 03, 2021, 07:51:01 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 03, 2021, 04:51:36 PM
Brent, just finished retreading your top 5PN and realised there’s a couple there I haven’t played since you did it and even longer. Going to have to listen to Conception and Brazen Abbot. Completely forgot about them.
Eye of the Storm on now!

LOVE Conception! Lots of talent there, between Roy Khan on vocals and Tore Ostby on guitar...
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Post by: bl5150 on September 03, 2021, 11:14:18 PM: I am pretty much with Nick on Annihilator.................their sweet spot was Never Neverland and Set The World On Fire (although the singer might turn off some as it's not very "metal"). After that it's a bit like Queensryche after Promised Land/HITNF .............I checked back in every now and then to see if they'd done anything decent but they mostly lost me.

I'm starting to lose my musical memory a bit after the last 2 years but here's a few random tracks from their latter albums (other than Carnival....) that harken back to the vibe of the "classic" period , but they are from albums that are mostly filler.

Torn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMRfsbr_WIM
Death In Your Eyes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9iqEQnkpKw (give it time .....the first minute and a bit is just an excuse for some very cool heavy & melodic guitar work like their best albums)
Pieces of You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiGfvV5sJh8 (Metallica ripoff i guess but Annihilator were doing this style around the same time as Metallica)

Speaking of Mangini , this is one of my favourite metal band photos . Spot the odd guy out :lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnYcSxCg/annihilator.jpg)

Quote from: Lowdz on September 03, 2021, 04:51:36 PM
Brent, just finished retreading your top 5PN and realised there’s a couple there I haven’t played since you did it and even longer. Going to have to listen to Conception and Brazen Abbot. Completely forgot about them.
Eye of the Storm on now!

:tup
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Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2021, 05:42:48 AM: That photo is like the band is actually a 4 piece and Mangini was walking down the street and saw these guys doing a photo shoot. He quietly comes from the side and sidles in without a sound just in time for a quick snap.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 04, 2021, 06:22:21 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 04, 2021, 05:42:48 AM
That photo is like the band is actually a 4 piece and Mangini was walking down the street and saw these guys doing a photo shoot. He quietly comes from the side and sidles in without a sound just in time for a quick snap.

He probably didn’t get the memo it was photo day and had a Hawaiian shirt on and they made him strip to his vest 😁
I love the breathing in, chest out pose to look muscly.
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Post by: TAC on September 04, 2021, 06:55:50 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 04, 2021, 05:42:48 AM
That photo is like the band is actually a 4 piece and Mangini was walking down the street and saw these guys doing a photo shoot. He quietly comes from the side and sidles in without a sound just in time for a quick snap.

Yeah pretty much. :lol

I bought Alice In Hell when it came out, but I never went any further.
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Post by: nick_z on September 04, 2021, 10:03:02 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 03, 2021, 11:14:18 PM
Torn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMRfsbr_WIM
Death In Your Eyes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9iqEQnkpKw (give it time .....the first minute and a bit is just an excuse for some very cool heavy & melodic guitar work like their best albums)
Pieces of You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiGfvV5sJh8 (Metallica ripoff i guess but Annihilator were doing this style around the same time as Metallica)

Yes, these are all pretty good. I don't think I've ever heard the S/T, actually. Death In Your Eyes is a good example of just how amazing Waters' leads can be, and the melodic stuff he is able to mix in with the thrash...

The very last album, Ballistic Sadistic (2020), is ok too, from what I heard of it. But, speaking of recycling, listen to this:

"Lip Service"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCdTDIbnOho

and then this:
"Knight Jumps Queen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpCefrmlXJQ

I mean, that's gotta be a "wink-wink" homage, right? And the song structure of the "original" (KJQ) is distinctive enough to start with...it's not like it's hard to detect the similarities ;) And, by the way, Lip Service is not the first re-write either:

"21"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRXk98QtjWA

Quote from: TAC on September 04, 2021, 06:55:50 AM
I bought Alice In Hell when it came out, but I never went any further.

You should go at least a little further and get Never, Neverland. It's excellent. And I think you'd enjoy Set the World on Fire too...
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Post by: TAC on September 04, 2021, 10:06:16 AM: I think after Mangini joined DT, I d-loaded the albums he was on. Really didn't spend any time with them though.
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Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2021, 03:03:37 PM: I'm pretty spotty with Annihilator across the board besides the old classics. I have a few of their albums though.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2021, 01:45:04 AM: New project for Dave Ellefson

https://www.loudersound.com/news/former-megadeth-bassist-dave-ellefson-unveils-his-new-musical-project-the-lucid?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=classic-rock&fbclid=IwAR1jBxE0Tv0cyzrC_P8dp9QhxJQUqFTpY5tDN_1shLXuKf7bYwqnZCaUmAs

It's not clear yet whether other band members will be involved or if he's just playing with himself
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Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2021, 03:24:53 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on September 05, 2021, 01:45:04 AM
New project for Dave Ellefson

https://www.loudersound.com/news/former-megadeth-bassist-dave-ellefson-unveils-his-new-musical-project-the-lucid?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=classic-rock&fbclid=IwAR1jBxE0Tv0cyzrC_P8dp9QhxJQUqFTpY5tDN_1shLXuKf7bYwqnZCaUmAs

It's not clear yet whether other band memebers will be involved or if he's just playing with himself

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/f9e234e0dd2693931dec4e086a9ff2fa/tenor.gif)
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Post by: TAC on September 05, 2021, 05:54:33 AM: :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on September 05, 2021, 05:59:51 AM: :lol
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 05, 2021, 12:28:39 PM: Ouch ;D

But I confess it took me a while. :laugh:
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Post by: gazinwales on September 10, 2021, 04:00:29 AM: New single from Majestica - 'Metal United' https://youtu.be/UO37wJG1j2k
Glorious cheese sandwich with some Gary Moore and Sabaton.
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Post by: TAC on September 10, 2021, 05:33:51 AM: Tommy Johansson loves himself some Gary Moore! Will check this when I get home.
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Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2021, 06:09:37 AM: I thought that was fucking shit to be honest. Who the fuck are these guys?
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 10, 2021, 11:29:26 AM: New Tony MacAlpine (last week at least). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIAYimGibk

Seems to be part of an EP.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 10, 2021, 01:35:11 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 10, 2021, 11:29:26 AM
New Tony MacAlpine (last week at least). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIAYimGibk

Seems to be part of an EP.

Played it last week. It’s pretty good. Better than that last album.
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Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2021, 03:16:07 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 10, 2021, 11:29:26 AM
New Tony MacAlpine (last week at least). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIAYimGibk

Seems to be part of an EP.

Damn that was nice. Sounds like old school TMac mixed with Planet X. I thought the last couple lacked melody, but this is a great compromise.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 11, 2021, 11:09:41 AM: Quote from: wolfking on September 10, 2021, 03:16:07 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on September 10, 2021, 11:29:26 AM
New Tony MacAlpine (last week at least). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIAYimGibk

Seems to be part of an EP.

Damn that was nice. Sounds like old school TMac mixed with Planet X. I thought the last couple lacked melody, but this is a great compromise.

Love this one. Shred 🤘🤘

https://youtu.be/Zw96UetOz-Q
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Post by: TAC on September 15, 2021, 02:54:25 PM: Nice career spanning interview with Neil Murray.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/neil-murray-whitesnake-black-sabbath-bassist-1211886/
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Post by: nick_z on September 18, 2021, 12:27:33 PM: (https://www.nuclearblast.de/static/articles/303/303321.jpg/1000x1000.jpg)

This kinda randomly came up yesterday. Not necessarily what I go for these days, but it was solid German metal fun ;D They have been around for a long time and I haven't really checked them out despite seeing them mentioned here and there. Anyone on the thread more familiar?

Catchy, well-written, powerful songs. Nothing earth-shattering, but I enjoyed the listen.
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Post by: TAC on September 18, 2021, 02:19:10 PM: I bought Firesoul when it came out.

And this was my thoughts as well..

Quote from: nick_z on September 18, 2021, 12:27:33 PM
Catchy, well-written, powerful songs. Nothing earth-shattering, but I enjoyed the listen.

I'll see if I can spin the new one tonight.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 18, 2021, 02:27:36 PM: I’ve given Brainstorm a few attempts over the years. Nothing seems to tickle my fancy.
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Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2021, 04:06:38 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 18, 2021, 02:27:36 PM
I’ve given Brainstorm a few attempts over the years. Nothing seems to tickle my fancy.

Pretty sure I have that one on CD. I think Brent might have been the one that brought this band to my attention from a Podcast maybe? But yeah, I have similar thoughts. Scary Creatures was a good album though.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 19, 2021, 06:16:19 AM: I have always had Brainstorm as a good "compilation band" - most of their albums have 2 or 3 really good songs and plenty of filler. Based on my song ratings the two more consistent albums were Downburst (2008) and Midnight Ghost (2018?).
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Post by: Grappler on September 19, 2021, 07:21:40 AM: Brainstorm is awesome! :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on September 29, 2021, 04:11:33 AM: Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2021, 05:22:52 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 29, 2021, 04:11:33 AM
Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?

Senjutsu.
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Post by: nick_z on September 29, 2021, 06:50:36 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on September 29, 2021, 04:11:33 AM
Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?

+1 for Senjutsu

Also this:

(https://ninecirclesblog.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/unto-others-strength.jpeg)

Not sure it 100% fits the thread, but I think there is enough "classic" in here that it should. I've been pimping this in the "What album.." thread too, and it's been in constant rotation for me the past few days. Brilliant blend of 80s goth/new wave atmospheres and classic hard rock/metal. Their first album from 2019, Mana, is excellent too (they used to be called Idle Hands then, but I believe all of their past stuff is now filed under Unto Others too)
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Post by: Lowdz on September 29, 2021, 12:01:21 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2021, 05:22:52 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 29, 2021, 04:11:33 AM
Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?

Senjutsu.

🤘🤘🤘
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 29, 2021, 12:17:10 PM: Quote from: wolfking on September 29, 2021, 05:22:52 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on September 29, 2021, 04:11:33 AM
Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?

Senjutsu.

More like Sen-meh-tsu.

I'll let myself out.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 29, 2021, 12:37:09 PM: Not trying to convince you otherwise, but my first reaction to Senjutsu was similar to yours. Maiden by numbers, a bit boring and uninspired. And Dickinson sounds old.

But I gave it a couple more spins and it has really grown on me. Sure, some is still Maiden by numbers, but done good and some songs sound even a bit different. Don't know if will stand the test of time, but for now I really enjoy it. This thing is a grower.

And Bruce still sounds old, but not in a tired way. He doesn't go for the insanely high notes and sometimes sounds strained, but he still has a powerful voice. And he has added a sort of fragility or vulnerability (missing the right words here) that conveys a lot of emotion.

So yeah, I'm totally trying to convince you. :D Give this some more spins and see if it grows.
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Post by: nick_z on September 29, 2021, 01:01:12 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 29, 2021, 12:37:09 PM
Not trying to convince you otherwise, but my first reaction to Senjutsu was similar to yours. Maiden by numbers, a bit boring and uninspired. And Dickinson sounds old.

But I gave it a couple more spins and it has really grown on me. Sure, some is still Maiden by numbers, but done good and some songs sound even a bit different. Don't know if will stand the test of time, but for now I really enjoy it. This thing is a grower.

And Bruce still sounds old, but not in a tired way. He doesn't go for the insanely high notes and sometimes sounds strained, but he still has a powerful voice. And he has added a sort of fragility or vulnerability (missing the right words here) that conveys a lot of emotion.

So yeah, I'm totally trying to convince you. :D Give this some more spins and see if it grows.

Echoing your sentiments almost word by word - except I actually enjoyed the album from the get go, in a way that hadn't happened with the last two (Final Frontier has grown a ton, by the way, but I didn't particularly like it at first). But, yes, even from a higher starting point, this album is certainly a grower.

And I absolutely agree on Bruce's performance.
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Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2021, 01:42:24 PM: It's an extrodinary album.
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Post by: Lowdz on September 30, 2021, 06:35:24 AM: Although Bruce sounds strained, it’s no worse than on TFF. It’s not his fault of course and if you hear him interviewed he actually sings better than he speaks!

I was very impressed with the album. I’ve given up on Maiden ever having a well produced and mixed album but the songwriting, so far into their career, is excellent.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 30, 2021, 08:15:37 AM: Alright alright alright. I'll give it another go.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 30, 2021, 08:51:03 AM: That's a good boy :tup :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 30, 2021, 08:57:23 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 30, 2021, 08:51:03 AM
That's a good boy :tup :biggrin:

Don't get too excited... I never said WHEN! :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on September 30, 2021, 09:34:20 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on September 30, 2021, 08:57:23 AM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on September 30, 2021, 08:51:03 AM
That's a good boy :tup :biggrin:

Don't get too excited... I never said WHEN! :lol

Hey it’s ok not to like it.
Unless it’s Tim with Winger - that’s just wrong 😁
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Post by: TAC on October 02, 2021, 03:16:53 PM: AC/DC released a new video last for Through The Mists Of Time. This is a cool tune, but damn, this video is fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7-bIFDMSFA
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Post by: nick_z on October 06, 2021, 02:13:14 PM: Quick question for the good people on this thread...anyone familiar with the first album from melodic hard-rockers Fair Warning (self-titled debut)?

It doesn't seem to be available on streaming platforms, although there might be a playlist on Youtube. I'll check that one out, but in the meantime I was curious if anyone knows it and has an opinion to share -thinking of buying a physical copy, if it's worth getting. I only have their third album, Go!, which I bought back in the day and really like...
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2021, 02:35:26 PM: Calling Brent.

We need a Brent Signal..
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Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2021, 03:27:18 PM: I own a couple of their later albums. Didn't think much of them.

Brent signal. :lol seems legit though!
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2021, 03:58:26 PM: (https://i.imgflip.com/5pisi3.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2021, 04:45:25 PM: Brilliant! :lol

Brentman!!
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Post by: nick_z on October 06, 2021, 04:47:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2021, 03:58:26 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5pisi3.jpg)

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 06, 2021, 05:26:52 PM: Quote from: nick_z on October 06, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
Quick question for the good people on this thread...anyone familiar with the first album from melodic hard-rockers Fair Warning (self-titled debut)?

It doesn't seem to be available on streaming platforms, although there might be a playlist on Youtube. I'll check that one out, but in the meantime I was curious if anyone knows it and has an opinion to share -thinking of buying a physical copy, if it's worth getting. I only have their third album, Go!, which I bought back in the day and really like...

You rang..........:lol

Go! is a pretty good album like most of their early stuff.............a few killers and a few fillers.

I think you would likely prefer the debut - it's really their only "hard rock" album from start to finish out of the first three. The fourth allbum "4" from 2000 toughens up the sound again somewhat . After that album I lost interest as the quality dipped .

Fair Warning were formed out of the ashes of Zeno , so if you like the debut you might also want to check out Zenology which has the Fair Warning guys all over it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 06, 2021, 05:34:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 06, 2021, 03:58:26 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5pisi3.jpg)

Tim's meme skills are on point.
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Post by: nick_z on October 06, 2021, 05:38:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 06, 2021, 05:26:52 PM

You rang..........:lol

Go! is a pretty good album like most of their early stuff.............a few killers and a few fillers.

I think you would likely prefer the debut - it's really their only "hard rock" album from start to finish out of the first three. The fourth allbum "4" from 2000 toughens up the sound again somewhat . After that album I lost interest as the quality dipped .

Fair Warning were formed out of the ashes of Zeno , so if you like the debut you might also want to check out Zenology which has the Fair Warning guys all over it.

Thank you :tup I think I'll check it out. I always enjoyed Go!, great vocals and melodies...I did end up sampling a couple of songs from the debut, and it sounds very good. And your confirmation is reassuring :)

I've read about Zeno, but haven't heard a note. Will have to dig something up!
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2021, 06:10:23 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 06, 2021, 05:26:52 PM
Quote from: nick_z on October 06, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
Quick question for the good people on this thread...anyone familiar with the first album from melodic hard-rockers Fair Warning (self-titled debut)?

It doesn't seem to be available on streaming platforms, although there might be a playlist on Youtube. I'll check that one out, but in the meantime I was curious if anyone knows it and has an opinion to share -thinking of buying a physical copy, if it's worth getting. I only have their third album, Go!, which I bought back in the day and really like...

You rang..........:lol

Go! is a pretty good album like most of their early stuff.............a few killers and a few fillers.

I think you would likely prefer the debut - it's really their only "hard rock" album from start to finish out of the first three. The fourth allbum "4" from 2000 toughens up the sound again somewhat . After that album I lost interest as the quality dipped .

Fair Warning were formed out of the ashes of Zeno , so if you like the debut you might also want to check out Zenology which has the Fair Warning guys all over it.

Brent never disappoints! :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 06, 2021, 06:30:41 PM: We leave that to you. :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on October 06, 2021, 06:38:33 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 06, 2021, 06:30:41 PM
We leave that to you. :biggrin:

(https://2s51it22efnz1bibgk3xthfh-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/5322BC87-F90D-4BB2-BB32-EEF72B4EDE8F.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2021, 06:19:17 AM: Settle down there ladies! Haha.
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2021, 04:06:15 PM: New Alcatrazz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH1YvDbJUY4
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Post by: Lowdz on October 10, 2021, 02:00:40 PM: Quote from: nick_z on October 06, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
Quick question for the good people on this thread...anyone familiar with the first album from melodic hard-rockers Fair Warning (self-titled debut)?

It doesn't seem to be available on streaming platforms, although there might be a playlist on Youtube. I'll check that one out, but in the meantime I was curious if anyone knows it and has an opinion to share -thinking of buying a physical copy, if it's worth getting. I only have their third album, Go!, which I bought back in the day and really like...

I thought the first 4 were pretty good. 4 is excellent as is Rainmaker.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2021, 06:05:02 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 10, 2021, 02:00:40 PM
Quote from: nick_z on October 06, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
Quick question for the good people on this thread...anyone familiar with the first album from melodic hard-rockers Fair Warning (self-titled debut)?

It doesn't seem to be available on streaming platforms, although there might be a playlist on Youtube. I'll check that one out, but in the meantime I was curious if anyone knows it and has an opinion to share -thinking of buying a physical copy, if it's worth getting. I only have their third album, Go!, which I bought back in the day and really like...

I thought the first 4 were pretty good. 4 is excellent as is Rainmaker.

We're in complete agreement there. And if you do get Rainmaker make sure get you get the German version with the extra track Childrens Eyes (live in Japan) - one of the better tracks on the album and it wasn't on the Japanese version :justjen (it seems it was on the 2006 Jap re-release but most versions of the album don't have it).

Well I am about to listen to my first full album in God knows how long. Some nice person remembered me and I have the new DT album here with me , so guess I had better give it a whirl.
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Post by: nick_z on October 13, 2021, 06:07:42 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2021, 06:05:02 AM

Well I am about to listen to my first full album in God knows how long. Some nice person remembered me and I have the new DT album here with me , so guess I had better give it a whirl.

Well, that's exciting!
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2021, 06:49:31 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2021, 06:05:02 AM
I have the new DT album here with me , so guess I had better give it a whirl.

Australia is a week ahead of the rest of the world?
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2021, 07:27:43 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 13, 2021, 06:49:31 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 13, 2021, 06:05:02 AM
I have the new DT album here with me , so guess I had better give it a whirl.

Australia is a week ahead of the rest of the world?

Yep :biggrin:

The nice person who remembered me is someone in the right place who I helped out with some music related stuff many moons ago and he knew I was a DT fan and he's looking to reduce his tab a bit :) A few others on DTF have obviously heard it too , so I am not the first by any means.
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Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2021, 01:49:43 PM: Really looking forward to your opinions on it Brent.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2021, 08:04:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 13, 2021, 01:49:43 PM
Really looking forward to your opinions on it Brent.

No worries.............trying to give it at least 3 listens for each track , as already a couple I didn't rate at first have grown a bit. It's certainly not in discussions for a "classic" in my opinion but if you liked DoT I think you'll like this. The challenge I have with recent DT (beyond DT12) is that much of it is a good listen but I'm generally not itching to re-listen or finding the songs stick in the memory and the vocal sound/melody (and the effects on JLB's voice) give off the same "majestic" vibe in most of the songs which can make it all rather samey.

Anyway...........will come back with some track by track thoughts tomorrow some time.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2021, 08:07:59 PM: There's certainly a lot to chew on and certainly nothing that can be ascertained after just a couple of listens.
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Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2021, 08:11:35 PM: So Tim has heard it also then. ;D

Yeah, I liked DOT a lot but it aged poorly. I listened to it a lot when it came out but haven't had any urge to listen to it at all for a good while.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2021, 08:16:27 PM: The thing about DoT is that it has peaks and valleys. There's some great songs like PBD, AWE, BW, S2N, but the rest is quite forgettable.

I think the Mangini Era is actually pretty strong, overall though. The new album reinforces this. I find the album quite thick, meaning that The Alien is a great example of how this album plays.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2021, 08:21:25 PM: I'm confused now.............you asked me if I am somehow a week ahead of the rest of the world and you've had it all along ?

I was going to say the same thing though - if you like The Alien and Invisible Monster then you'll like the rest of it. I thought that they were both alright and that's about where my view on the whole album will land. I think I like the 2nd half better than the first , so if you didn't like the two singles (early tracks) I wouldn't write it off.
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Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2021, 09:04:28 PM: Oh, so Tim has heard it. ???

I thought the two singles were average at best. Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised.
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Post by: TAC on October 13, 2021, 09:13:07 PM: The Alien is excellent. And I liked Invisible Monster a lot more than you I guess. Invisible Monster, sure, I guess you could call it average, but average in this case is still pretty good.
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Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2021, 11:10:27 PM: Honestly, I have only listened to the Alien I think twice. Maybe it's time I listen to it again.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2021, 04:36:51 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 13, 2021, 09:04:28 PM
I thought the two singles were average at best. Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised.

I'm with ya brother. I have very low expectations for this ... even lower now if "The Alien is a great example of how this album plays."

<sigh> Could be the first DT album I don't buy. :-\
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 04:50:20 AM: I don't think I could not not buy it, but yeah, my expectations are also very very low.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2021, 07:00:30 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 04:50:20 AM
I don't think I could not not buy it, but yeah, my expectations are also very very low.

It seems inconceivable to me as well, but given the trend line of the quality of their output over the past few albums (for my liking), there's going to be a tipping point where I'm simply choosing to put my money towards music I actually love - not letting the history and status of "Dream Theater" sway my decision.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 08:29:02 AM: I think I have a pretty good feel for where this album sits with me now. I think it's their weakest Mangini era album outside of The Astonishing (which I can't remember well). There's nothing bad on it and a number of brilliant passages, but also nothing that grabs me from start to finish. I would give the album something like a 7/10 and that may be a touch generous. As per usual the performances are great and the production is pretty good - I just think they've lost a few tricks in terms of writing memorable , cohesive songs.

Song ratings after 4-5 listens of each

Transcending Time : a nice upbeat and breezy early 90s sounding song with a bit of Rush/I&W and the most commercial thing on it . Threatened to go to another level but unfortunatley never did 8/10

Answering The Call : My initial reaction was that this song was a cool riff and not much else , but this was the grower for me. A more connected song than most once I let it sink in 7.5/10 and might get to 8/10

Invisible Monster: 7.25/10 - probably didn't deserve the extra quarter point but I wanted to separate it from The Alien

The Alien : Disliked it on first listen then it grew a bit , but just something missing for me. 7/10

A View From The Top Of The World: Most of the last 5 minutes is great but unfortunately it took 14 mins + to get there. The first 15 mins get a 6.5/10 ad the last 5 mins a 8.5/10. Overall 7/10

Awaken The Master: Liked this quite a bit on first listen but tired of it quickly. JP's epic guitar leads are getting so samey too. 7/10

Sleeping Giant : I struggled to decipher what the intention was with this but it just seemed to meander around with little direction. 6.5/10

Some of that might change on further listens but I really don't have a desire to return to it any time soon after 4-5 listens .
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Post by: Stadler on October 14, 2021, 09:12:03 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 14, 2021, 07:00:30 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 04:50:20 AM
I don't think I could not not buy it, but yeah, my expectations are also very very low.

It seems inconceivable to me as well, but given the trend line of the quality of their output over the past few albums (for my liking), there's going to be a tipping point where I'm simply choosing to put my money towards music I actually love - not letting the history and status of "Dream Theater" sway my decision.

This is me as well. I haven't listened to the two songs yet - not from disinterest, but from historically underliking songs released like that - but I'm approaching this with trepidation.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2021, 10:55:08 AM: I’m enjoying it it is very much like everyone else they’ve done in the last 10 years and more. I really can’t hear another odd time signature chug on a low b . It’s just lazy and done to death. The riff at the end of the title track is great, and more of that would have been appreciated.
Instead me pretty much get a rehash of the last album, without something different like Vipeer King.

I guess setting a high standard leads to boredom. The musicianship is excellent as always, but the vocal melodies are overfamiliar and just nothing surprises.

It’s not bad, it just doesn’t stand out and is certainly not progressing.

The only new thing is the 8 string, which is a total waste of time because JM could have played the riff.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2021, 10:57:04 AM: Bloody typos but too lazy to put them right. Anyway, off to see Praying Mantis in Blackpool :metal
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 12:22:02 PM: Great writeup Brent, thanks. I have a strong feeling my thoughts will be similar.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2021, 02:29:46 PM: Those are some harsh scores Brent.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2021, 02:33:06 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 12:22:02 PM
Great writeup Brent, thanks. I have a strong feeling my thoughts will be similar.

I'll be spinning it tomorrow morning, and will chime in. But my worry is that I'll be joining you two in the same boat.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2021, 02:44:13 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 14, 2021, 02:33:06 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 12:22:02 PM
Great writeup Brent, thanks. I have a strong feeling my thoughts will be similar.

I'll be spinning it tomorrow morning, and will chime in. But my worry is that I'll be joining you two in the same boat.

I thought you were waiting!
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 05:59:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2021, 02:29:46 PM
Those are some harsh scores Brent.

His scores for the two singles are generous IMO.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2021, 06:00:09 PM: No wonder why DT doesn't tour Australia. :lol
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Post by: nick_z on October 14, 2021, 06:21:20 PM: Is there anyone on this thread who does NOT have the album already? :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 06:29:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2021, 06:00:09 PM
No wonder why DT doesn't tour Australia. :lol

Hey, they've been to Brisbane, twice! :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2021, 07:39:27 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 08:29:02 AM

A View From The Top Of The World: Most of the last 5 minutes is great but unfortunately it took 14 mins + to get there. The first 15 mins get a 6.5/10 ad the last 5 mins a 8.5/10. Overall 7/10

You have this backwards.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 07:51:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2021, 07:39:27 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 08:29:02 AM

A View From The Top Of The World: Most of the last 5 minutes is great but unfortunately it took 14 mins + to get there. The first 15 mins get a 6.5/10 ad the last 5 mins a 8.5/10. Overall 7/10

You have this backwards.

Possibly a guitarist thing as the last part is instrumental and really rocks , but we'll see what the others think in coming days.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2021, 07:58:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2021, 07:39:27 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 08:29:02 AM

A View From The Top Of The World: Most of the last 5 minutes is great but unfortunately it took 14 mins + to get there. The first 15 mins get a 6.5/10 ad the last 5 mins a 8.5/10. Overall 7/10

You have this backwards.

Possibly a guitarist thing as the last part is instrumental and really rocks , but we'll see what the others think in coming days.

I like it too, but the main vocal part ends on kind of a dud. I would've loved to have heard the chorus again, or a reprise of the guitar line at 2:42. I don't have an issue with the actual outro, but there's just no climax to the track.
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 08:08:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2021, 07:58:00 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2021, 07:39:27 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 08:29:02 AM

A View From The Top Of The World: Most of the last 5 minutes is great but unfortunately it took 14 mins + to get there. The first 15 mins get a 6.5/10 ad the last 5 mins a 8.5/10. Overall 7/10

You have this backwards.

Possibly a guitarist thing as the last part is instrumental and really rocks , but we'll see what the others think in coming days.

I like it too, but the main vocal part ends on kind of a dud. I would've loved to have heard the chorus again, or a reprise of the guitar line at 2:42. I don't have an issue with the actual outro, but there's just no climax to the track.

Didn't know we were talking about The Alien or Invisible Monster.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2021, 09:15:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 14, 2021, 02:44:13 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 14, 2021, 02:33:06 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 12:22:02 PM
Great writeup Brent, thanks. I have a strong feeling my thoughts will be similar.

I'll be spinning it tomorrow morning, and will chime in. But my worry is that I'll be joining you two in the same boat.

I thought you were waiting!

I thought the official release day was tomorrow? Or is it next Friday?
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Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 10:54:35 PM: Next Friday mate.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 14, 2021, 11:34:20 PM: Quote from: nick_z on October 14, 2021, 06:21:20 PM
Is there anyone on this thread who does NOT have the album already? :biggrin:

Yeah, me.

And I haven't heard the singles either. Waiting for my cd to arrive next friday.
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2021, 05:12:10 AM: I hope bosk doesn't venture into this thread lol.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2021, 02:06:13 PM: The new Gus G album fucking slays. 11 studio tracks, and 7 bonus/live ones. This is gonna be an instant-purchase.
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2021, 02:22:53 PM: Chad, I did the first three songs and the Vinnie song. That's good shit right there. Thank you for the heads up. I typically ignore these kinds of releases, but I find they are perfect for work.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2021, 02:46:16 PM: Praying Mantis we’re excellent last night. The singer who works with Arden Lucassen was very good.
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Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2021, 02:47:09 PM: I really like Gus as a guitar player. I haven't followed anything from this new release but I've purchased all his solo albums so far so will probably end up getting this one too.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 05:46:50 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 08:29:02 AM
I think I have a pretty good feel for where this album sits with me now. I think it's their weakest Mangini era album outside of The Astonishing (which I can't remember well). There's nothing bad on it and a number of brilliant passages, but also nothing that grabs me from start to finish. I would give the album something like a 7/10 and that may be a touch generous. As per usual the performances are great and the production is pretty good - I just think they've lost a few tricks in terms of writing memorable , cohesive songs.

Song ratings after 4-5 listens of each

Transcending Time : a nice upbeat and breezy early 90s sounding song with a bit of Rush/I&W and the most commercial thing on it . Threatened to go to another level but unfortunatley never did 8/10

Answering The Call : My initial reaction was that this song was a cool riff and not much else , but this was the grower for me. A more connected song than most once I let it sink in 7.5/10 and might get to 8/10

Invisible Monster: 7.25/10 - probably didn't deserve the extra quarter point but I wanted to separate it from The Alien

The Alien : Disliked it on first listen then it grew a bit , but just something missing for me. 7/10

A View From The Top Of The World: Most of the last 5 minutes is great but unfortunately it took 14 mins + to get there. The first 15 mins get a 6.5/10 ad the last 5 mins a 8.5/10. Overall 7/10

Awaken The Master: Liked this quite a bit on first listen but tired of it quickly. JP's epic guitar leads are getting so samey too. 7/10

Sleeping Giant : I struggled to decipher what the intention was with this but it just seemed to meander around with little direction. 6.5/10

Some of that might change on further listens but I really don't have a desire to return to it any time soon after 4-5 listens .

After going back to Brents thoughts after 2 listens, it's almost scary how much I agree with most of what's said here. I feel Brent your scores are somewhat generous even. I could really let rip on this album but there's no reason too. I'm glad everyone is enjoying it but after 2 listens, I have zero urge to hear it again.
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Post by: TAC on October 25, 2021, 06:46:34 AM: Wow!
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 25, 2021, 08:27:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 05:46:50 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 08:29:02 AM
I think I have a pretty good feel for where this album sits with me now. I think it's their weakest Mangini era album outside of The Astonishing (which I can't remember well). There's nothing bad on it and a number of brilliant passages, but also nothing that grabs me from start to finish. I would give the album something like a 7/10 and that may be a touch generous. As per usual the performances are great and the production is pretty good - I just think they've lost a few tricks in terms of writing memorable , cohesive songs.

Song ratings after 4-5 listens of each

Transcending Time : a nice upbeat and breezy early 90s sounding song with a bit of Rush/I&W and the most commercial thing on it . Threatened to go to another level but unfortunatley never did 8/10

Answering The Call : My initial reaction was that this song was a cool riff and not much else , but this was the grower for me. A more connected song than most once I let it sink in 7.5/10 and might get to 8/10

Invisible Monster: 7.25/10 - probably didn't deserve the extra quarter point but I wanted to separate it from The Alien

The Alien : Disliked it on first listen then it grew a bit , but just something missing for me. 7/10

A View From The Top Of The World: Most of the last 5 minutes is great but unfortunately it took 14 mins + to get there. The first 15 mins get a 6.5/10 ad the last 5 mins a 8.5/10. Overall 7/10

Awaken The Master: Liked this quite a bit on first listen but tired of it quickly. JP's epic guitar leads are getting so samey too. 7/10

Sleeping Giant : I struggled to decipher what the intention was with this but it just seemed to meander around with little direction. 6.5/10

Some of that might change on further listens but I really don't have a desire to return to it any time soon after 4-5 listens .

After going back to Brents thoughts after 2 listens, it's almost scary how much I agree with most of what's said here. I feel Brent your scores are somewhat generous even. I could really let rip on this album but there's no reason too. I'm glad everyone is enjoying it but after 2 listens, I have zero urge to hear it again.

For the most part, I was thinking the same thing. This is going to be the first DT album I don't buy. I went back through time to listen to the most recent DT releases, and just finished off with SysChaos this morning (naturally, I skipped The Astonishing). Every album - yes, including BC&SL and SC - was far more enjoyable than this one. I think the best way I can describe A View From ... is that it's like a person who's had way too much cosmetic surgery. It's not awful/ugly/bad, but it's just not that (sonically) appealing or attractive to me. Everything is so contrived - the lyrics, the melodies, the instrumental sections (the wankery is just too much nowadays, and so unoriginal), the production.... all of it is just too ... smooth? Sculpted? I don't know the right adjective. There's nothing natural or raw about it. Add to that most of the vocal melodies (both how they're written, and performed) absolutely blow chunks, I've reached my tipping point with DT. I'll save a couple of songs - Transcending Time and Answering the Call (maybe Awaken the Master), but that's it. The title track... snoozefest. I just kept thinking "Why don't I just listen to Illumination Theory instead - at least James could sing back then". So many of the melodies and riffs feel re-hashed from their back catalogue.

TASTES^tm!!
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:13:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2021, 06:46:34 AM
Wow!

I'm going to maybe give it a week and try again. I simply can't see what the fuss is about unfortunately.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:15:40 PM: What Chad said, I can pretty much agree with all of it.

Speaking of IT, this album isn't in the same ballpark as DT12. At the moment, this new album would rank second last. The Astonishing being last.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:18:02 PM: So there's 3 of us with the same opinion.....I think we're outnumbered lads. :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 25, 2021, 03:20:11 PM: I feel the complete opposite about it. I think it's outstanding.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:22:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2021, 03:20:11 PM
I feel the complete opposite about it. I think it's outstanding.

I'm trying so hard to see what everyone else is seeing, I really am. It just falls short for me in every possible way. :-[

I also didn't like ADTOE so this shouldn't be a surprise to me. DT12 is top 5 though, weird.
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Post by: TAC on October 25, 2021, 03:23:47 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2021, 03:20:11 PM
I feel the complete opposite about it. I think it's outstanding.

I'm trying so hard to see what everyone else is seeing, I really am. It just falls short for me in every possible way. :-[

I also didn't like ADTOE so this shouldn't be a surprise to me. DT12 is top 5 though, weird.

And I love ADTOE, but don't really rate DT12 all that high.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:24:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2021, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2021, 03:20:11 PM
I feel the complete opposite about it. I think it's outstanding.

I'm trying so hard to see what everyone else is seeing, I really am. It just falls short for me in every possible way. :-[

I also didn't like ADTOE so this shouldn't be a surprise to me. DT12 is top 5 though, weird.

And I love ADTOE, but don't really rate DT12 all that high.

That seems to be more the general consensus.
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Post by: Bolsters on October 25, 2021, 07:01:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:18:02 PM
So there's 3 of us with the same opinion.....I think we're outnumbered lads. :lol
Make that four.
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 07:07:11 PM: Quote from: Bolsters on October 25, 2021, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:18:02 PM
So there's 3 of us with the same opinion.....I think we're outnumbered lads. :lol
Make that four.

:metal we are now starting to outnumber them.....in this thread anyway. ;D

Nice to see you too mate.
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Post by: TAC on October 25, 2021, 07:08:07 PM: No wonder Australia is an island. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 07:09:14 PM: :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2021, 05:09:11 AM: If I were to rank the Mangini era albums...

ADTOE
DT12
DoT

AVFTTOTW
<scroll for about 34 seconds (one for each track)>
The Astonishing

Quote from: Bolsters on October 25, 2021, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 03:18:02 PM
So there's 3 of us with the same opinion.....I think we're outnumbered lads. :lol
Make that four.

I'll bet JJ thinks is stinks too.

WHOOOOO!!

I gotta check in with him on FB... haven't seen him here in a while.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2021, 05:14:51 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 26, 2021, 05:09:11 AM
I'll bet JJ thinks is stinks too.

WHOOOOO!!

I gotta check in with him on FB... haven't seen him here in a while.

I saw jj around earlier today for the first time in ages

Quote from: wolfking on October 25, 2021, 07:07:11 PM

:metal we are now starting to outnumber them.....in this thread anyway. ;D

"them" = Tim in these parts :lol

I'm actually happy for the band that it's getting such a hot response from most fans. I just don't get it.

O/T : sad to hear of the passing of legendary manager Herbie Herbert (Journey etc...)
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 05:28:14 AM: Yeah of course it's great it's doing so well. Loving the band for so long, I'm glad our opinion is the minority.

Yeah I too saw J was online. Shame he didn't say hi.

I'd rank them;

DT12
D/T
ADTOE

AVFTTOTW
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2021, 01:20:28 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 26, 2021, 05:14:51 AM

"them" = Tim in these parts :lol

My preferred pronoun is "him". :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 01:53:22 PM: I’m sort of with you gents. I kind of like it when I’m listening to it but afterwards I can’t remember a single chorus. And too many riffs and lines sound like other songs they’ve done before and it kicks me out of the moment. I’m sure some wag will do a video showing them all.

Next time I just want them to write some songs before they go into the studio. The widdly bits will come when they jam on the prepared songs. There’s a reason I&W was so awesome- they lived with those songs for a couple of years, played them, reworked them over and over. They need to do that. The vocals really are an afterthought and it shows.

I have to say I much prefer the Neal Morse Band album.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 01:54:47 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 01:53:22 PM
I’m sort of with you gents. I kind of like it when I’m listening to it but afterwards I can’t remember a single chorus. And too many riffs and lines sound like other songs they’ve done before and it kicks me out of the moment. I’m sure some wag will do a video showing them all.

Next time I just want them to write some songs before they go into the studio. The widdly bits will come when they jam on the prepared songs. There’s a reason I&W was so awesome- they lived with those songs for a couple of years, played them, reworked them over and over. They need to do that. The vocals really are an afterthought and it shows.

I have to say I much prefer the Neal Morse Band album.

That's a great way of putting it Paul, I agree.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:03:26 PM: So I agree with that statement about the vocals.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 02:06:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:03:26 PM
So I agree with that statement about the vocals.

Interesting.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 02:06:51 PM: And the drums are fucking annoying. Just going mental all over the place. Just play a bloody beat, man!

Sounds like I hate it but I’m unable to hate a DT album at this point.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 26, 2021, 02:10:42 PM: I've listened to the new DT once and had the same impression as for the new Maiden.

A lot of by-the-numbers, a lot of been-there-done-that, a lot of tired and uninspired sounding vocals.

But with repeated listens the Maiden grew mightily on me, maybe it will be the same with DT.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:12:58 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:03:26 PM
So I agree with that statement about the vocals.

Interesting.

My number one complaint about this album, as it is with most of their albums, is that James is way underutilized. He's their secret weapon. I love JP's guitar playing, especially his melodic solos, but James is what really separates DT from many other bands.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 02:56:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:03:26 PM
So I agree with that statement about the vocals.

Interesting.

My number one complaint about this album, as it is with most of their albums, is that James is way underutilized. He's their secret weapon. I love JP's guitar playing, especially his melodic solos, but James is what really separates DT from many other bands.

:tup

His voice sounds fine on this. He’s jus5 not given much to work with.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 26, 2021, 03:01:05 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 01:54:47 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 01:53:22 PM
I have to say I much prefer the Neal Morse Band album.

That's a great way of putting it Paul, I agree.

Same ... that one's a top 3 AOTY so far for me. The more I listen to this DT album, the more I just think "why aren't I listening to ANY other DT album (other than TA, obvs).

Quote from: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 02:06:51 PM
Sounds like I hate it but I’m unable to hate a DT album at this point.

Listen to it long enough and you will.

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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 04:59:36 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 02:06:51 PM
And the drums are fucking annoying. Just going mental all over the place. Just play a bloody beat, man!

Sounds like I hate it but I’m unable to hate a DT album at this point.

But it sounds like you hate it. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 05:00:10 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:03:26 PM
So I agree with that statement about the vocals.

Interesting.

My number one complaint about this album, as it is with most of their albums, is that James is way underutilized. He's their secret weapon. I love JP's guitar playing, especially his melodic solos, but James is what really separates DT from many other bands.

:tup

His voice sounds fine on this. He’s jus5 not given much to work with.

I'm not sure James has much left in him to work with though.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2021, 05:49:01 PM: But The Astonishing was only 5 years ago, and he was phenomenal on that.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 07:13:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 05:49:01 PM
But The Astonishing was only 5 years ago, and he was phenomenal on that.

I couldn't tell you a single thing from it. The last time James blew me away was IT. That song and his performance on that is phenomenal.
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Post by: TAC on October 26, 2021, 07:16:16 PM: Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 05:49:01 PM
But The Astonishing was only 5 years ago, and he was phenomenal on that.

I couldn't tell you a single thing from it. The last time James blew me away was IT. That song and his performance on that is phenomenal.

The I guess you'll never know. You'll nnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvveeeeerrrrrrrrr know.
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Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 07:44:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 07:16:16 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 05:49:01 PM
But The Astonishing was only 5 years ago, and he was phenomenal on that.

I couldn't tell you a single thing from it. The last time James blew me away was IT. That song and his performance on that is phenomenal.

The I guess you'll never know. You'll nnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvveeeeerrrrrrrrr know.

Uhh......nope, I guess not. :lol

I love James on that line though. I get goosebumps everytime I hear that climax.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2021, 05:36:05 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:03:26 PM
So I agree with that statement about the vocals.

Interesting.

My number one complaint about this album, as it is with most of their albums, is that James is way underutilized. He's their secret weapon. I love JP's guitar playing, especially his melodic solos, but James is what really separates DT from many other bands.

:tup

His voice sounds fine on this. He’s jus5 not given much to work with.

I'm not sure James has much left in him to work with though.

I kinda disagree. Other things he's sung on this year, he sounds good - the cover of Kickstart my Heart his kid's band did, Timo Tolkki's Avalon, and the single on Evergrey's album. With DT, he sounds awful - which I think might have as much to do with the writing, direction he's given, and production.

As for how he sounds on TA .... no comment. I simply can't get past the rational of having a single voice try to perform - what?? - 6 or 7 different characters on a concept album. It just didn't work... regardless of how 'good' he may have sounded. Also, the lyrics were shit.
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2021, 05:45:04 AM: Fair play Chad. James did sound good on the Tolkki album and sounds great on The Beholder. Actually, he sounds really good on that song so I'll stand corrected. I guess I was more thinking of his range, but a song like The Beholder, be doesn't need to rely on the age aspect.
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Post by: Stadler on October 27, 2021, 06:55:51 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2021, 05:36:05 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on October 26, 2021, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2021, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2021, 02:03:26 PM
So I agree with that statement about the vocals.

Interesting.

My number one complaint about this album, as it is with most of their albums, is that James is way underutilized. He's their secret weapon. I love JP's guitar playing, especially his melodic solos, but James is what really separates DT from many other bands.

:tup

His voice sounds fine on this. He’s jus5 not given much to work with.

I'm not sure James has much left in him to work with though.

I kinda disagree. Other things he's sung on this year, he sounds good - the cover of Kickstart my Heart his kid's band did, Timo Tolkki's Avalon, and the single on Evergrey's album. With DT, he sounds awful - which I think might have as much to do with the writing, direction he's given, and production.

As for how he sounds on TA .... no comment. I simply can't get past the rational of having a single voice try to perform - what?? - 6 or 7 different characters on a concept album. It just didn't work... regardless of how 'good' he may have sounded. Also, the lyrics were shit.

I don't want to kick the hornet's nest here, but I thought in the wake of Portnoy leaving, most of the vocals are done in his little vacuum in Canada? I wasn't under the understanding that we get to "point fingers" to other people.
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2021, 07:46:49 AM: I think that’s definitely part one of it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2021, 08:12:36 AM: Quote from: Stadler on October 27, 2021, 06:55:51 AM
I don't want to kick the hornet's nest here, but I thought in the wake of Portnoy leaving, most of the vocals are done in his little vacuum in Canada? I wasn't under the understanding that we get to "point fingers" to other people.

Maybe that's the problem then? Leaving him on his own, and/or not getting real-time feedback and direction. I have to believe that there's a 'virtual' element to things ... that while not physically in the same studio, that JP and/or JR would sync up in real-time while he's recording. Maybe not, but then again, that is what may be the issue - leaving him completely to his own.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 27, 2021, 02:31:41 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2021, 08:12:36 AM
Quote from: Stadler on October 27, 2021, 06:55:51 AM
I don't want to kick the hornet's nest here, but I thought in the wake of Portnoy leaving, most of the vocals are done in his little vacuum in Canada? I wasn't under the understanding that we get to "point fingers" to other people.

Maybe that's the problem then? Leaving him on his own, and/or not getting real-time feedback and direction. I have to believe that there's a 'virtual' element to things ... that while not physically in the same studio, that JP and/or JR would sync up in real-time while he's recording. Maybe not, but then again, that is what may be the issue - leaving him completely to his own.

I’m sure the vocal melodies are mostly written for him though.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2021, 07:34:27 PM: Just for something different the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame are going to induct a real rock musician this weekend. Legend..........

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Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2021, 09:04:36 PM: :metal
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on October 29, 2021, 07:06:54 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 27, 2021, 02:31:41 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2021, 08:12:36 AM
Quote from: Stadler on October 27, 2021, 06:55:51 AM
I don't want to kick the hornet's nest here, but I thought in the wake of Portnoy leaving, most of the vocals are done in his little vacuum in Canada? I wasn't under the understanding that we get to "point fingers" to other people.

Maybe that's the problem then? Leaving him on his own, and/or not getting real-time feedback and direction. I have to believe that there's a 'virtual' element to things ... that while not physically in the same studio, that JP and/or JR would sync up in real-time while he's recording. Maybe not, but then again, that is what may be the issue - leaving him completely to his own.

I’m sure the vocal melodies are mostly written for him though.
Yeah, I'm thinking it's mostly about the writing. I do not care how much time JP and MP spent getting JLB to hit "I do not fiiiight for youuuu" in just the right way when that wasn't a great vocal melody in the first place. He was free to record BAI and BITS all on his own and it was all great because the melodies worked for him and they were great melodies. Other people who want JLB in their projects know what they want him for and they write what they want him for and that's why he sounds great.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 30, 2021, 04:02:31 AM: New Dynazty. Sounds like Dynazty so that’s fine!

https://youtu.be/cBkEgjhOS_k

Also, I went to see Vega last night, and they were excellent. A couple of songs didn’t hit the mark - generally when they tried to do something a bit different from your average melodic hard rock song - but I’d go again.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2021, 05:09:38 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 30, 2021, 04:02:31 AM
New Dynazty. Sounds like Dynazty so that’s fine!

https://youtu.be/cBkEgjhOS_k

Yeah, I caught that Dynasty yesterday, and you are spot on. It was pretty much the only thing in my Spotify New Release playlist that was worth a damn.
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Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2021, 06:00:11 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on October 30, 2021, 04:02:31 AM
New Dynazty. Sounds like Dynazty so that’s fine!

https://youtu.be/cBkEgjhOS_k

Also, I went to see Vega last night, and they were excellent. A couple of songs didn’t hit the mark - generally when they tried to do something a bit different from your average melodic hard rock song - but I’d go again.

The last Dynazty was awesome. I was surprised, great album.

Vega have experimented a little over the last few, the softer stuff doesn't quite work for them. They need to stick to the flat out melodic hard rock. Great band. Still need to get onto the new one.
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2021, 05:37:11 AM: https://youtu.be/pjcgHPsvFVY

New Saxon. :metal

As expected, good old fashion solid rock.
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Post by: TAC on November 03, 2021, 07:46:28 AM: YES! It does sound great. Biff is amazing. Saxon is automatic for me. I actually thought their last album was the weakest they've released since before Lionheart, but they have been so damn consistent.
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Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2021, 03:17:53 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 03, 2021, 07:46:28 AM
YES! It does sound great. Biff is amazing. Saxon is automatic for me. I actually thought their last album was the weakest they've released since before Lionheart, but they have been so damn consistent.

We've talked about this before. I don't quite agree but understand why you'd think that. I think I'd say Call to Arms is a tad weaker.

Really though as you said, what they've done from Lionheart onwards has been remarkable. Ljonheart was my first album from Saxon and still probably my personal fav.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 04, 2021, 01:01:01 PM: So I played Ozzy’s No More Tears today. I’ve never heard the album before. It is surprisingly excellent.

I did spit out my coffee when I heard the first couple of lines to Mr Tinkertrain though. Jeez, you can’t say that! Unless you’re Jimmy Saville or Rolf Harris 😳😳😳
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 04, 2021, 01:12:40 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2021, 01:01:01 PM
So I played Ozzy’s No More Tears today. I’ve never heard the album before. It is surprisingly excellent.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/3og0ITcyzGRj9PROve/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
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Post by: Stadler on November 04, 2021, 01:17:02 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2021, 01:01:01 PM
So I played Ozzy’s No More Tears today. I’ve never heard the album before. It is surprisingly excellent.

I did spit out my coffee when I heard the first couple of lines to Mr Tinkertrain though. Jeez, you can’t say that! Unless you’re Jimmy Saville or Rolf Harris 😳😳😳

Wow, knowing what you like and listen to, that kind of floors me a little bit. It IS a solid record; I think it's probably my favorite non-Randy record in the catalogue.
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Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2021, 01:20:54 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2021, 01:01:01 PM
So I played Ozzy’s No More Tears today. I’ve never heard the album before. It is surprisingly excellent.

I did spit out my coffee when I heard the first couple of lines to Mr Tinkertrain though. Jeez, you can’t say that! Unless you’re Jimmy Saville or Rolf Harris 😳😳😳

Wow, that is a revelation Paul. But yeah, it's a ripper.
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Post by: TAC on November 04, 2021, 01:36:03 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on November 04, 2021, 01:01:01 PM
So I played Ozzy’s No More Tears today. I’ve never heard the album before.

(https://c.tenor.com/uPsmTyLxixcAAAAM/yap-i-smell-some-bullshit.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2021, 03:33:37 PM: :lol why would he make that up?
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Post by: TAC on November 04, 2021, 03:34:21 PM: :lol

It's really unbelievable though.
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Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2021, 03:50:01 PM: Hey, I don't disagree. :lol
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Post by: Kotowboy on November 04, 2021, 04:00:34 PM: I've never listened to an entire Ozzy or Black Sabbath album.
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Post by: TAC on November 04, 2021, 04:23:39 PM: New Scorps!

https://bravewords.com/news/scorpions-streaming-new-single-peacemaker

Hey Lowdz, you should check out their album Love At First Sting. It's pretty good.
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Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2021, 04:34:50 PM: Quote from: Kotowboy on November 04, 2021, 04:00:34 PM
I've never listened to an entire Ozzy or Black Sabbath album.

I feel sorry for you.
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Post by: Zoom E on November 04, 2021, 07:12:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 04, 2021, 04:23:39 PM
New Scorps!

https://bravewords.com/news/scorpions-streaming-new-single-peacemaker

Hey Lowdz, you should check out their album Love At First Sting. It's pretty good.

The cover for the forthcoming album is kind of cool, but the album title is lame. Rock Believer. :facepalm:

I will check out this new tune shortly.
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Post by: Zoom E on November 04, 2021, 08:16:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 04, 2021, 04:23:39 PM
New Scorps!

https://bravewords.com/news/scorpions-streaming-new-single-peacemaker

Hey Lowdz, you should check out their album Love At First Sting. It's pretty good.

Just gave it a listen. Definitely better than anything from their last couple of albums. Promising.
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Post by: TAC on November 04, 2021, 08:17:05 PM: It really wasn't bad.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 05, 2021, 03:19:05 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 04, 2021, 04:23:39 PM
New Scorps!

https://bravewords.com/news/scorpions-streaming-new-single-peacemaker

Hey Lowdz, you should check out their album Love At First Sting. It's pretty good.

:lol :lol :lol :lol
You crack me up.

No, honestly, I just never bothered with it. I'd just fallen out of love with Ozzy at the time. I didn't love No Rest and wasn't a fan of Zak's playing so i just never bothered checking it out. I think I was sulking because he's got rid of Jake too. I've heard some songs from it - the singles.
I should say that I would love it more if it had a better singer on it. His "charm" was wearing thin by then.
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Post by: TAC on November 05, 2021, 08:38:56 PM: I got a new shirt.

(https://i.imgur.com/OOvjiSp.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2021, 08:46:38 PM: The Lynott! Like a fucking boss! :metal
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Post by: TAC on November 05, 2021, 08:49:36 PM: The Lovely Mrs TAC goes.."Who's that? Jimi Hendrix?" :lol
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2021, 08:50:24 PM: :lol

Oh females.......
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 05, 2021, 08:58:12 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2021, 08:50:24 PM
:lol

Oh females.......

What are ya talking 'bout ... I thought the same thing!
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Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2021, 09:12:58 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 05, 2021, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2021, 08:50:24 PM
:lol

Oh females.......

What are ya talking 'bout ... I thought the same thing!

:rollin

If you are serious, we can't be friends anymore.
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Post by: TAC on November 06, 2021, 03:22:16 AM: :corn
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 06, 2021, 05:00:44 AM: :lol
Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2021, 09:12:58 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on November 05, 2021, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 05, 2021, 08:50:24 PM
:lol

Oh females.......

What are ya talking 'bout ... I thought the same thing!

:rollin

If you are serious, we can't be friends anymore.

I plead the 5th
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Post by: Stadler on November 08, 2021, 07:09:45 AM: Quote from: Kotowboy on November 04, 2021, 04:00:34 PM
I've never listened to an entire Ozzy or Black Sabbath album.

You should; if you get past the hype and the radio stuff (particularly on the Ozzy stuff) there's some good material there. I guess it depends on whether you like any of it to start with, but something like No More Tears is PHENOMENALLY consistent. There's not a lot of gap between the best and worst songs on that album. The mid-period Sabbath is the same way.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2021, 10:24:13 AM: Well the Star One track is fucking killer.

And I love Britny Slayes.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 18, 2021, 12:34:03 PM: Through The Lens: Ross Halfin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd375kVYHZ4&ab_channel=GibsonTV)

This is a treat! :)
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 03:44:32 PM: New Praying Mantis.
https://bravewords.com/news/praying-mantis-to-release-katharsis-album-in-january-cry-for-the-nations-music-video-posted

The song is easy on the ears, even a little weak, but I'm posting to say Holy Shit! I love this guy's voice.
I wish he joined MSG instead.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2021, 05:12:53 PM: Nice! Cuijpers has been used by Arjen the last few live shows to replace the vocal parts that Russell Allen has done in Ayreon/Star One. He indeed does have a great voice - and is rumoured to be the current "guess the vocalist (https://fb.watch/9mFn0HaDJZ/)" for one of the songs from the upcoming Star One album
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 06:07:52 PM: Yes, he sounds amazing. What else has he done? That tune was kind of weak, but I'm going to give that album a spin when it comes out.
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Post by: nick_z on November 18, 2021, 06:53:52 PM: (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51M+WLHWiBL.jpg)

Do you guys know this album/band? From Germany, it came out in 2014. I read about it kind of randomly and checked it out...I've been really enjoying it. It's a melodic hard rock/metal album at its core, but with cool ideas thrown in the blender here and there. Super-tasty guitar work (bass too!) and nice vocals, melodic and gritty at the same time (the singer is also in the Joe Perry Project, which I guess is a bit random). Fun stuff!
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Post by: bl5150 on November 18, 2021, 09:00:59 PM: I remember that album cover and checking it out .............all of the guys were from existing B to C level bands if memory serves (guitarist from Axxis, someone from Rhapsody?) . I recall thinking it was pretty decent but not much else. Might revisit at some stage .
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2021, 09:03:27 PM: (https://i.imgflip.com/5pisi3.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2021, 10:21:38 PM: I can't recall one single album brought up in here that Brent hasn't known in some capacity. Unreal.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2021, 04:55:44 AM: Quote from: TAC on November 18, 2021, 06:07:52 PM
Yes, he sounds amazing. What else has he done? That tune was kind of weak, but I'm going to give that album a spin when it comes out.

Not much apparently - https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/John_%22Jaycee%22_Cuijpers/355727
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Post by: nick_z on November 19, 2021, 06:47:05 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 18, 2021, 09:00:59 PM
I remember that album cover and checking it out .............all of the guys were from existing B to C level bands if memory serves (guitarist from Axxis, someone from Rhapsody?) . I recall thinking it was pretty decent but not much else. Might revisit at some stage .

Yeah, I could envision a promo blurb...21 Octayne: a "super" group from not-so-super bands :biggrin:

Jokes aside - like I said, I actually quite enjoyed this one. A cool little record.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2021, 12:36:03 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on November 18, 2021, 05:12:53 PM
Nice! Cuijpers has been used by Arjen the last few live shows to replace the vocal parts that Russell Allen has done in Ayreon/Star One. He indeed does have a great voice - and is rumoured to be the current "guess the vocalist (https://fb.watch/9mFn0HaDJZ/)" for one of the songs from the upcoming Star One album

Saw PM a few weeks ago. Singer was phenomenal, and a little bit mental 😁😁
They played this and another song from the upcoming album. The other song sounded stronger. This is a bit twee, but they are “solid”.
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Post by: ozzy554 on November 23, 2021, 08:15:21 PM: So I stumbled upon 2 songs featuring Tony martin from this year that somehow flew under my radar. Guess these will hold me over until whenever Thorns comes out.

The Sonic Overlords - Past the End of Time https://youtu.be/dffa8-ZNaww (https://youtu.be/dffa8-ZNaww)

Giuntini Deathline - A Stab in the Dark https://youtu.be/z5EcKaEP6s0 (https://youtu.be/z5EcKaEP6s0)
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2021, 07:15:09 AM: Anyone sample the album this year Sorrow is the Cure by Legions of the Night? It showed up on the PPUSA Top 50 end of year list. For those that like Savatage, spin this fucker asap. Henning Basse in on the mic - I love his voice, but I'm only a mid-level Savatage fan. I know a few of you are more hard-core on them, so I felt the need to highlight this.
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Post by: TAC on December 08, 2021, 12:32:47 PM: Interesting..

https://bravewords.com/news/spirits-of-fire-feat-chris-caffery-fabio-lione-steve-di-giorgio-and-mark-zonder-to-release-embrace-the-unknown-album-in-february-a-second-chance-video-posted
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 08, 2021, 12:42:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 08, 2021, 12:32:47 PM
Interesting..

https://bravewords.com/news/spirits-of-fire-feat-chris-caffery-fabio-lione-steve-di-giorgio-and-mark-zonder-to-release-embrace-the-unknown-album-in-february-a-second-chance-video-posted

Wonder what happened with Ripper. I have no idea who this Fabio guy is. Is that the book model from the 80's?

(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5bb65dc524000030009840cb.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale)
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Post by: Lowdz on December 08, 2021, 12:49:49 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 06, 2021, 07:15:09 AM
Anyone sample the album this year Sorrow is the Cure by Legions of the Night? It showed up on the PPUSA Top 50 end of year list. For those that like Savatage, spin this fucker asap. Henning Basse in on the mic - I love his voice, but I'm only a mid-level Savatage fan. I know a few of you are more hard-core on them, so I felt the need to highlight this.

Cheers Chad. Yeah, they are certainly channeling Savatage there. I like it though.
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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2021, 12:58:36 PM: Quote from: ProfessorPeart on December 08, 2021, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: TAC on December 08, 2021, 12:32:47 PM
Interesting..

https://bravewords.com/news/spirits-of-fire-feat-chris-caffery-fabio-lione-steve-di-giorgio-and-mark-zonder-to-release-embrace-the-unknown-album-in-february-a-second-chance-video-posted

Wonder what happened with Ripper. I have no idea who this Fabio guy is. Is that the book model from the 80's?

(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5bb65dc524000030009840cb.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale)

Angra, Rhapsody, Vision Divine plus a heap of other stuff. Great voice.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 08, 2021, 01:06:48 PM: Great voice. Strong Italian accent! 😁
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Post by: Lowdz on December 08, 2021, 01:21:46 PM: Just watched the video. It was solid, but after a minute or so I was only really watching because of the young lady’s arse! 😁😁🤗
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 09, 2021, 10:52:41 PM: Turns out I actually have a Fabio song. Was looking at his discography and noticed he sang on Ayreon's Flight Of The Migrator album.

Listening to Through The Wormhole now. 21 years ago, but he's not too bad.
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Post by: TAC on December 10, 2021, 04:25:28 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/sorcerer-release-music-video-for-cover-of-ozzy-osbourne-s-waiting-for-darkness-new-4-track-ep-available-now

4 pretty good covers here, though I'm not a fan of the slowing down of Gates Of Babylon.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2021, 05:28:04 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 10, 2021, 04:25:28 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/sorcerer-release-music-video-for-cover-of-ozzy-osbourne-s-waiting-for-darkness-new-4-track-ep-available-now

4 pretty good covers here, though I'm not a fan of the slowing down of Gates Of Babylon.

I thought they butchered When Death Calls truthfully.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 12, 2021, 04:09:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 11, 2021, 05:28:04 AM
Quote from: TAC on December 10, 2021, 04:25:28 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/sorcerer-release-music-video-for-cover-of-ozzy-osbourne-s-waiting-for-darkness-new-4-track-ep-available-now

4 pretty good covers here, though I'm not a fan of the slowing down of Gates Of Babylon.

I thought they butchered When Death Calls truthfully.

I didn’t mind that to be honest. I’m with Tim on Gates Of Babylon though. Doesn’t help that it’s one of my favourite songs ever.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Sorcerer before but I was interested enough to check out some of their own stuff. I like it.
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2021, 04:15:13 PM: Same here. I pulled them up on Spotify and seems I had Saved their album from last year. I'll have to actually check it out. :lol

The dude has some pipes, and I thought the covers were solid. I liked their take on Crusader.
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Post by: nick_z on December 12, 2021, 06:43:29 PM: I haven't heard their last album, but their first two (In the Shadow of the Inverted Cross and The Crowning of the Fire King) are very, very good.
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Post by: nick_z on December 12, 2021, 06:59:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 10, 2021, 04:25:28 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/sorcerer-release-music-video-for-cover-of-ozzy-osbourne-s-waiting-for-darkness-new-4-track-ep-available-now

4 pretty good covers here, though I'm not a fan of the slowing down of Gates Of Babylon.

Speaking of the covers EP - kudos to them for the Ozzy cover. Waiting for Darkness is one of my favorite Ozzy songs. So good. Cover is pretty close to the original, great vocals.
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Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2021, 07:27:04 PM: Fire King was Brent's album of 2017, I'm pretty sure. That got me into them. The last one was excellent but I think Fire King still might be a tad better. I haven't gotten around to the one before that though.
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Post by: nick_z on December 17, 2021, 11:41:29 AM: Since we were talking about doom-y, epic metal...this was a nice late-year surprise, released today:

(https://i1.wp.com/distortedsoundmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/1349-Memory-Garden.jpg?resize=500%2C500&ssl=1)

Memory Garden - 1349

From Sweden, they were around in the second half of the 90s...I have their Verdict of Posterity and Mirage albums. I missed their more recent output (which was very sparse, tbh...the last thing they put out was in 2013). Anyway, I listened to this once today and I really enjoyed it. Sounds great (Dan Swano mixing, so no surprise there) and while their core sound is as I remember from the older album, I felt more engaged with the songs, which have just the right mix of doom, epic and (mild) progginess. Great vocals and lead guitar playing too. Again, only one listen, but I'll definitely go back to it...
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Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 12:42:05 PM: Thanks for the rec, Nick. Just dropped the needle on it and it sounds pretty decent. I'll have to come back to it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 17, 2021, 12:46:15 PM: You lost me at "doom". :lol
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Post by: TAC on December 17, 2021, 12:47:40 PM: It's really not all that doomy.
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Post by: nick_z on December 17, 2021, 01:11:41 PM: Yeah, it really isn't...
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Post by: Lowdz on December 23, 2021, 03:17:29 PM: https://www.metalsucks.net/2021/12/22/members-of-protest-the-hero-dream-theater-haken-etc-cover-slayers-seasons-in-the-abyss-for-christmas/

Haken members doing a Christmas version of Seasons In The Abyss. Awesome!
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Post by: TAC on December 23, 2021, 03:25:20 PM: That's awesome Paul. We were talking about it in another thread.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 24, 2021, 01:28:08 PM: Merry Christmas Chad ;D...............and all the legends in this thread

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2021, 01:44:53 PM: :lol

Merry XMAS all! :metal

Just past 6.00 on XMAS morning here. Hope Ben has an awesome day Brent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on December 24, 2021, 02:11:16 PM: (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51773656714_cd18901dc9_c.jpg)

Merry HO HO HO!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on December 24, 2021, 02:13:23 PM: (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/58/d7/c658d7a468c990dd3b3098270ada1acd.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2022, 03:53:30 AM: Finally checking out the latest UDO. Not sure, he's dialed back the heaviness and gone for a more classic style. There is lots of old Accept feels on this though and most of what's on here is pretty well done. I was just liking the heavier style he was doing. Oh, and there's like fucking 80 songs on this thing, just keeps going!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on January 04, 2022, 08:23:23 AM: Not sure how I missed out on Savage Messiah over the last 13 years or so. Great thrashy and melodic metal. These guys have a really cool sound.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 04, 2022, 09:38:42 AM: Herbie Langhans is now the singer for Firewind?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on January 04, 2022, 09:47:30 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on December 24, 2021, 02:11:16 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51773656714_cd18901dc9_c.jpg)

Merry HO HO HO!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on January 04, 2022, 10:41:11 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2022, 09:38:42 AM
Herbie Langhans is now the singer for Firewind?

He has been for around two years now - they put out a record with him in 2020. That's one of a few records that will remind me of those early days of the pandemic. It's actually a really good album - I had checked out on these guys after Allegiance, but the newest one had me revisiting a lot of their material.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2022, 12:52:08 PM: Quote from: Grappler on January 04, 2022, 08:23:23 AM
Not sure how I missed out on Savage Messiah over the last 13 years or so. Great thrashy and melodic metal. These guys have a really cool sound.

I only have and know Hands of Fate, but its a ripper.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2022, 12:53:30 PM: Quote from: Grappler on January 04, 2022, 10:41:11 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2022, 09:38:42 AM
Herbie Langhans is now the singer for Firewind?

He has been for around two years now - they put out a record with him in 2020. That's one of a few records that will remind me of those early days of the pandemic. It's actually a really good album - I had checked out on these guys after Allegiance, but the newest one had me revisiting a lot of their material.

I didn't take to it at first but I actually revisited it again a week or so again and found it quite fresh and enjoyable. The new song they have released too is some excellent old school power metal too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 04, 2022, 08:06:58 PM: Phil Lynott passed away 36 years ago today at the age of ...36...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2022, 03:32:28 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2022, 08:06:58 PM
Phil Lynott passed away 36 years ago today at the age of ...36...

Damn, a year younger than myself, that's crazy. Such a tragic loss.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2022, 10:06:05 AM: For JJ:

(https://i.imgflip.com/2tc87s.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2022, 12:04:36 PM: Come back JJ!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2022, 04:43:52 AM: https://youtu.be/7UxJE2Okaf0

This new Spirits of Fire track is pretty nice.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 11, 2022, 09:10:25 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 11, 2022, 04:43:52 AM
https://youtu.be/7UxJE2Okaf0

This new Spirits of Fire track is pretty nice.

I didn't like it. I can't take Fabio seriously singing "normal" songs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 11, 2022, 09:29:42 AM: Something quite strange and unusual about this song, Fabio is so low in the mix, he's almost drowned out by everything else.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 12, 2022, 02:19:15 PM: This looks interesting..

https://bravewords.com/news/w-a-s-p-announce-us-tour-dates-for-40-years-live-world-tour-2022-armored-saint-to-support-michael-schenker-on-select-dates-video-trailer

A Wednesday night in Boston isn't great, but I'd be going in for Armored Saint, so we could leave early. I really don't care about missing WASP.

Michael Schenker opening the Texas dates...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2022, 02:40:27 PM: Not sure what WASP are like these days but a few years ago, they still put on a really great show. I guess it helps if you're a fan though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 12, 2022, 06:03:12 PM: Nice cover from Tommy Johansson of the TonyMac song 'Hundreds Of Thousands' https://youtu.be/lictihs3IpY
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 14, 2022, 01:56:56 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 12, 2022, 02:40:27 PM
Not sure what WASP are like these days but a few years ago, they still put on a really great show. I guess it helps if you're a fan though.

Blackie was using a lot of backing tracks and miming I believe. Not sure I need a “born again” Blackie in my life. I still have my memories. Most of ‘em 😁😁
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2022, 04:31:19 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 14, 2022, 01:56:56 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 12, 2022, 02:40:27 PM
Not sure what WASP are like these days but a few years ago, they still put on a really great show. I guess it helps if you're a fan though.

Blackie was using a lot of backing tracks and miming I believe. Not sure I need a “born again” Blackie in my life. I still have my memories. Most of ‘em 😁😁

I'm a fan, but refusing to play Animal and cutting the cursing from Chainsaw Charlie leaves me baffled.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 14, 2022, 05:02:33 AM: https://youtu.be/Mrj6AImQr30

Just stumbled across this on youtube. 80s old school riffing metal. Really liked it. Nothing flashy but made the last half hour at work fly by.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 14, 2022, 06:12:46 PM: Dropped the needle on the new Magnum today. I would not behoove anyone from liking Magnum. They seem like a more than respectable band. But they really don't do much for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2022, 08:02:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 14, 2022, 06:12:46 PM
Dropped the needle on the new Magnum today. I would not behoove anyone from liking Magnum. They seem like a more than respectable band. But they really don't do much for me.

They are a bit ploddy for sure and I've lost track with the last few but just a solid band. Its no surprise they are not for you though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 14, 2022, 11:47:40 PM: I like Magnum a lot, their classics like Chase The Dragon, On A Storytellers Night or Wings Of Heaven are unbeatable but they still deliver good records.

And Bob Catley in his 70s still sounds amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2022, 03:32:54 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 14, 2022, 11:47:40 PM
I like Magnum a lot, their classics like Chase The Dragon, On A Storytellers Night or Wings Of Heaven are unbeatable but they still deliver good records.

And Bob Catley in his 70s still sounds amazing.

These two especially, are just incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 15, 2022, 07:36:34 AM: These two are clearly the best :metal really strong from start to finish.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 15, 2022, 07:49:23 AM: Yeah I loved that run from Chase the Dragon through Wings of Heaven. The albums since had been generally “solid”. Bob is creaking a bit but that’s understandable at his age. He’s been doing this over 50 years.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 15, 2022, 08:36:08 AM: The last ones weren't great but each one had a couple of really good tunes. Maybe they shouldn't turn out records in a two year rhythm like they've done for the last decade. But then I keep wondering how long they will be around, considering that both Clarkin and Catley are in their mid 70s.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2022, 02:22:16 PM: It is impressive how frequently they are still punching out albums and while they could hold back and make a album with less filler over a period of time, as you say they won't have that much longer left, they are probably just happy being super productive while they can.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 15, 2022, 03:45:54 PM: I say keep the music coming!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 15, 2022, 04:46:07 PM: Magnum are very hit and miss for me, they've done some killer albums in the late 1980's, but I really haven't bothered with them for many a year.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2022, 01:33:25 AM: Heard the rumour this morning and unfortunately true.................just confirmed that Meat Loaf has passed away .
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 21, 2022, 04:27:24 AM: Ah, that's sad.

But as all those rock stars from the 60s and 70s aren't young anymore, sooner or later it will get to all of them.

Never was a fan of everything he did, but those Bat Out Of Hell records are great. May he rest in piece.

PS: There was even a short lived Bat Out Of Hell musical, which I saw 2 or 3 years ago (my wife is a big musical fan). Had a really weird story, but all of the hit songs were there. Some with lyrics translated to german, which was kinda strange, but overall it was really cool and showed the strength of those Jim Steinman songs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2022, 04:41:38 AM: Yeah that's sad news. Never was a fan at all but can't deny his influence and status.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2022, 04:42:51 AM: I have no idea who these guys are, but this is excellent. Get a Ryche/Crimson Glory/Sanctuary vibe;

https://youtu.be/5jfVt6GKiC0
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2022, 04:58:24 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2022, 04:42:51 AM
I have no idea who these guys are, but this is excellent. Get a Ryche/Crimson Glory/Sanctuary vibe;

https://youtu.be/5jfVt6GKiC0

360 pages ago they got a mention in here ;D

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42370.msg1929398#msg1929398

And you checked them out :lol

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42370.msg1929507#msg1929507

Lost track of them like just about everything else these last few years. Will check it out. :metal

EDIT: having checked it out .............sounds likey they are a bit more serious now and less of the parody that they were a few years back. That's nice - sorta Sanctuary vibe.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 21, 2022, 05:09:27 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 21, 2022, 04:27:24 AM
Ah, that's sad.

But as all those rock stars from the 60s and 70s aren't young anymore, sooner or later it will get to all of them.

Never was a fan of everything he did, but those Bat Out Of Hell records are great. May he rest in piece.

PS: There was even a short lived Bat Out Of Hell musical, which I saw 2 or 3 years ago (my wife is a big musical fan). Had a really weird story, but all of the hit songs were there. Some with lyrics translated to german, which was kinda strange, but overall it was really cool and showed the strength of those Jim Steinman songs.

Yeah, Mrs.jingle and I saw that as well a few years back. Sad to hear this ... Bat Outta Hell is a top 10 album of all time for me. Guess I know what I’m spinning this morning.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on January 21, 2022, 05:10:57 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 21, 2022, 05:09:27 AM
Guess I know what I’m spinning this morning.
:2metal:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2022, 12:35:00 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 21, 2022, 04:58:24 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2022, 04:42:51 AM
I have no idea who these guys are, but this is excellent. Get a Ryche/Crimson Glory/Sanctuary vibe;

https://youtu.be/5jfVt6GKiC0

360 pages ago they got a mention in here ;D

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42370.msg1929398#msg1929398

And you checked them out :lol

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42370.msg1929507#msg1929507

Lost track of them like just about everything else these last few years. Will check it out. :metal

EDIT: having checked it out .............sounds likey they are a bit more serious now and less of the parody that they were a few years back. That's nice - sorta Sanctuary vibe.

Jeez you're good haha. I said it wasn't bad though, so I'm consistent lol. I did really like that song though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 21, 2022, 01:02:23 PM: Loved Meat Loaf. Still one of the best gigs I ever saw back in 98 on the Lost Boys & Golden Girls tour.

His last few albums didn’t do anything for me. Bat 3 was the last one I mostly liked.

Sad. Dead Ringer was possibly the first album I ever had. I drew a decent copy of the cover for my wall back in the day, when I had some skills.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 21, 2022, 01:30:00 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 21, 2022, 01:02:23 PM
Loved Meat Loaf. Still one of the best gigs I ever saw back in 98 on the Lost Boys & Golden Girls tour.

His last few albums didn’t do anything for me. Bat 3 was the last one I mostly liked.

Sad. Dead Ringer was possibly the first album I ever had. I drew a decent copy of the cover for my wall back in the day, when I had some skills.

Sorry to hear that Lowdz. And I was just about to make a Meat Loaf post that, well, would not be appropriate for the Meat Loaf RIP Thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 21, 2022, 04:00:15 PM: I have a new shirt!

(https://i.imgur.com/UqIjIWb.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2022, 04:13:54 PM: It's beautiful! :'(

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 22, 2022, 04:01:49 AM: Nice.
I had a similar designed shirt of Schenker and another of Yngwie which I loved. They have both sadly died. The shirts, obviously 😁
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 22, 2022, 04:51:25 AM: I have a Schenker one. I love it!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on January 23, 2022, 02:22:28 AM: Tommy Johansson - Over The Hills And Far Away (Extended Version) cover
https://youtu.be/DBk7eCCiAcw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 25, 2022, 06:54:54 PM: Fantastic interview with Don Airey..

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/don-airey-interview-deep-purple-ozzy-osbourne-black-sabbath-1279044/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 01, 2022, 07:35:31 PM: This cover of Burn cracked me up..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw6vsHuqoGw

Check out their Dream Theater inspired stage presence.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:32:16 AM: Been spinning my copy of the new Ferrymen I got a few days ago and I fucking love it. Could be the best of the three. Magnus really dug a bit deeper on this one. The Last Wave and Morning Star are easily two of the best songs he's ever written. I'm impressed he's still got this quality in him after all this time. It's classic Karlsson but has some older vibes in there, while being a bit fresh. Drops a little in the second half but that's cause there's some killer tunes in the first half.

The title track and Morning Star have quite a bit of Dio Sabbath era feels. The chorus of the title tracks rips off the Scarecrow from Avantasia though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2022, 04:13:01 AM: I’ll check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 07, 2022, 03:13:34 PM: I’ll have to revisit this. Played it once when it came out and don’t remember anything about it, but I wasn’t giving it my full attention.
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Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:46:36 PM: I don't expect anyway to have the high praise I do truthfully. Being a Magnus fan boy since The Battle, I'm critical but at the same time easily pleased.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:54:13 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 04:13:01 AM
I’ll check it out.

I wouldn't expect you to sit through an hour of your boy Ronnie! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2022, 03:57:28 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 04:13:01 AM
I’ll check it out.

I wouldn't expect you to sit through an hour of your boy Ronnie! :lol

"I'll check it out" only commits me for about 10 minutes. :lol

I'm going to pull it up tonight. I like Ronnie. I just eyeroll because he has sang on about 80 albums in the last three years.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 04:08:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 04:13:01 AM
I’ll check it out.

I wouldn't expect you to sit through an hour of your boy Ronnie! :lol

"I'll check it out" only commits me for about 10 minutes. :lol

I'm going to pull it up tonight. I like Ronnie. I just eyeroll because he has sang on about 80 albums in the last three years.

Even if you check the title track, Morning Star and even City of Hate was a nice heavy one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on February 07, 2022, 05:16:12 PM: Here's another one of the random re-discoveries that I sometime share in this thread:

(https://img.discogs.com/2n2SD_o1WiIbDo4GH8PSASTAtJ8=/fit-in/600x602/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2323197-1373963857-3349.jpeg.jpg)

Dark at Dawn - "Crimson Frost" (2001)

I remember liking this when it came out and for some reason I've enjoyed revisiting it today. Peculiar power metal from Germany, with "burly" vocals and an epic feel. What makes it peculiar is the almost "gothic-metal" influence that creeps in at times. I can totally hear a mid-career Sentenced influence in some songs (the opener "The Frozen Tear", for example). To top it off, they cover Gary Moore's Out in the Fields and it kinda works!

Anyway - an interesting record. I don't think it's on the usual streaming platforms, but it looks like it's on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUV1nXX5js
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: El Barto on February 07, 2022, 05:48:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 25, 2022, 06:54:54 PM
Fantastic interview with Don Airey..

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/don-airey-interview-deep-purple-ozzy-osbourne-black-sabbath-1279044/
That was fantastic. How awesome would it be to hang out and drink beer with this guy? As much as you think you know about him and the bands he played with, there are an endless number of tangents and back alleys he can lead you down.

Quote
He phoned me up and said, “You gotta be at Morgan Studios tomorrow for Black Sabbath. Don’t worry. They’re very nice people.”
:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 06:05:11 PM: Quote from: nick_z on February 07, 2022, 05:16:12 PM
Here's another one of the random re-discoveries that I sometime share in this thread:

(https://img.discogs.com/2n2SD_o1WiIbDo4GH8PSASTAtJ8=/fit-in/600x602/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2323197-1373963857-3349.jpeg.jpg)

Dark at Dawn - "Crimson Frost" (2001)

I remember liking this when it came out and for some reason I've enjoyed revisiting it today. Peculiar power metal from Germany, with "burly" vocals and an epic feel. What makes it peculiar is the almost "gothic-metal" influence that creeps in at times. I can totally hear a mid-career Sentenced influence in some songs (the opener "The Frozen Tear", for example). To top it off, they cover Gary Moore's Out in the Fields and it kinda works!

Anyway - an interesting record. I don't think it's on the usual streaming platforms, but it looks like it's on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUV1nXX5js

I have one of their albums. It's a nice listen. Interesting sound for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2022, 07:04:12 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 04:13:01 AM
I’ll check it out.

I wouldn't expect you to sit through an hour of your boy Ronnie! :lol

"I'll check it out" only commits me for about 10 minutes. :lol

I'm going to pull it up tonight. I like Ronnie. I just eyeroll because he has sang on about 80 albums in the last three years.

Even if you check the title track, Morning Star and even City of Hate was a nice heavy one.

Gave this a run through. This album is...solid. ;D

The song I liked the most is The Last Ship. That's a great tune.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on February 07, 2022, 07:13:28 PM: Quote from: El Barto on February 07, 2022, 05:48:57 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 25, 2022, 06:54:54 PM
Fantastic interview with Don Airey..

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/don-airey-interview-deep-purple-ozzy-osbourne-black-sabbath-1279044/
That was fantastic. How awesome would it be to hang out and drink beer with this guy? As much as you think you know about him and the bands he played with, there are an endless number of tangents and back alleys he can lead you down.

This was a great read indeed!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2022, 07:21:50 PM: Quote from: nick_z on February 07, 2022, 05:16:12 PM
Here's another one of the random re-discoveries that I sometime share in this thread:

(https://img.discogs.com/2n2SD_o1WiIbDo4GH8PSASTAtJ8=/fit-in/600x602/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2323197-1373963857-3349.jpeg.jpg)

Dark at Dawn - "Crimson Frost" (2001)

I remember liking this when it came out and for some reason I've enjoyed revisiting it today. Peculiar power metal from Germany, with "burly" vocals and an epic feel. What makes it peculiar is the almost "gothic-metal" influence that creeps in at times. I can totally hear a mid-career Sentenced influence in some songs (the opener "The Frozen Tear", for example). To top it off, they cover Gary Moore's Out in the Fields and it kinda works!

Anyway - an interesting record. I don't think it's on the usual streaming platforms, but it looks like it's on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUV1nXX5js

Wow, this is excellent! :tup
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 07:51:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 07:04:12 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 04:13:01 AM
I’ll check it out.

I wouldn't expect you to sit through an hour of your boy Ronnie! :lol

"I'll check it out" only commits me for about 10 minutes. :lol

I'm going to pull it up tonight. I like Ronnie. I just eyeroll because he has sang on about 80 albums in the last three years.

Even if you check the title track, Morning Star and even City of Hate was a nice heavy one.

Gave this a run through. This album is...solid. ;D

The song I liked the most is The Last Ship. That's a great tune.

Wow, in the car just now I actually ran through that song and thought that should have been the one I recommended to you! Magnus rips on that one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2022, 07:53:49 PM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 08, 2022, 02:53:39 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:32:16 AM
Been spinning my copy of the new Ferrymen I got a few days ago and I fucking love it. Could be the best of the three.

I coulda swore I posted the same a while back, but can't seem to find it. But yeah, I agree completely - there's no "could be" about it... it is the best of the three.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2022, 03:22:15 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 08, 2022, 02:53:39 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:32:16 AM
Been spinning my copy of the new Ferrymen I got a few days ago and I fucking love it. Could be the best of the three.

I coulda swore I posted the same a while back, but can't seem to find it. But yeah, I agree completely - there's no "could be" about it... it is the best of the three.

Yeah, a couple more times through and it's definitely the strongest of the three. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 08, 2022, 03:29:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2022, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 04:13:01 AM
I’ll check it out.

I wouldn't expect you to sit through an hour of your boy Ronnie! :lol

"I'll check it out" only commits me for about 10 minutes. :lol

I'm going to pull it up tonight. I like Ronnie. I just eyeroll because he has sang on about 80 albums in the last three years.

We’ll be feeling the same way about Dino Jelusic ina year or so.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2022, 03:37:50 PM: (https://i.etsystatic.com/5997534/r/il/4c68e4/892359764/il_570xN.892359764_3731.jpg)

Dino from the Jelusic Era.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2022, 04:16:27 PM: :lol Nice one!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on February 09, 2022, 01:10:13 PM: (https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3397339047_10.jpg)

Sacred Outcry - "Damned for All Time" (2020)

Not sure if this was mentioned before. Very good album from this Greek band, with a slight tilt to the more epic end of the power metal spectrum. Interesting story too: the material goes all the way back to about 20 years prior- it was basically left unfinished for years, before the band (or most of it) decided to go back and properly record it.

Nothing too new, but everything works pretty great...production, vocals and songs - from the more straightforward (Legion of the Fallen, Sacred Outcry), to the more long-form (Where Ancient Gods are Still Hailed, Damned for All Time). There are a couple of ballad-y pieces too (Scared to Cry and Crystal Tears). Also, this cool tune - Lonely Man - that starts out like an old-school Scorpions ballad and then turns into a speedy beast (the more Euro power-adjacent song in the lot, I think)

Good stuff!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on February 11, 2022, 04:39:59 PM: Spidergawd VI. I enjoyed the last one a lot (God damn, that opener) but this one feels like a step into the really awesome. Great vocals and the whole thing feels like a rocky, meaty, throbbing Lizzy/Maiden thing with more of a rock vocal. Just the right level of raw feel and when the leads kick in - beautiful. Nothing earth shattering but the perfect vibe, afaic.
https://youtu.be/x6zpDIyb85I
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2022, 04:54:58 PM: Huh..never heard of them.
While I didn't love the song you linked, I checked out a few tracks on the album on Spotify. They are another one of those bands that channel some Thin Lizzy. My favorite of the bunch is Dead Lord.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on February 12, 2022, 09:10:02 AM: I hadn't heard of them either. Ran into them on Spotify and just kept going back to them and they grew on me to the point where they're a regular listen. This latest album is the best, afaic. TBH, that wasn't the track i wanted to link to but there was a vid for it so, yeah.

I'll have to check Dead Lord.

Edit: Dead Lord are ticking boxes for me so far, but far more straight Lizzy tribute than Spidergawd. SG are heavier and the guy who sings for SG has an absolutely top notch delivery, imo. But liking Dead Lord so far. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on February 12, 2022, 11:15:28 AM: "New" Tony Martin song Lost in Time https://youtu.be/7uHd9o7phAc (https://youtu.be/7uHd9o7phAc)

This was a Demo Tony Martin recorded for Geoff Nicholls while they were working on Scream (2005). More backstory in the description of the video.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2022, 11:23:55 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: nick_z on February 07, 2022, 05:16:12 PM
Here's another one of the random re-discoveries that I sometime share in this thread:

(https://img.discogs.com/2n2SD_o1WiIbDo4GH8PSASTAtJ8=/fit-in/600x602/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2323197-1373963857-3349.jpeg.jpg)

Dark at Dawn - "Crimson Frost" (2001)

I remember liking this when it came out and for some reason I've enjoyed revisiting it today. Peculiar power metal from Germany, with "burly" vocals and an epic feel. What makes it peculiar is the almost "gothic-metal" influence that creeps in at times. I can totally hear a mid-career Sentenced influence in some songs (the opener "The Frozen Tear", for example). To top it off, they cover Gary Moore's Out in the Fields and it kinda works!

Anyway - an interesting record. I don't think it's on the usual streaming platforms, but it looks like it's on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUV1nXX5js

Wow, this is excellent! :tup

Those vocals are hilarious. In a bad way.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 12, 2022, 03:55:11 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/sabaton-guitarist-tommy-johansson-covers-gary-moore-classic-thunder-rising-video

I love Tommy Johansson. He recently joined Sabaton, but I've been following him for years in Goden Resurrection and his own band Reinxeed. The guy worships Gary Moore, and this is a great cover, especially vocally. But as hard as he tries, there's just no recreating Gary's guitar.
Still, a fantastic cover of Thunder Rising.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Zoom E on February 12, 2022, 06:59:57 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 11, 2022, 04:54:58 PM
Huh..never heard of them.
While I didn't love the song you linked, I checked out a few tracks on the album on Spotify. They are another one of those bands that channel some Thin Lizzy. My favorite of the bunch is Dead Lord.

TAC, have you ever heard Pride Tiger? I believe they just released one album, in 2007. Major Thin Lizzy influences. This tune used to get some radio play in Canada.

https://youtu.be/kYxPdOF6qQw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 12, 2022, 07:09:31 PM: Quote from: Zoom E on February 12, 2022, 06:59:57 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 11, 2022, 04:54:58 PM
Huh..never heard of them.
While I didn't love the song you linked, I checked out a few tracks on the album on Spotify. They are another one of those bands that channel some Thin Lizzy. My favorite of the bunch is Dead Lord.

TAC, have you ever heard Pride Tiger? I believe they just released one album, in 2007. Major Thin Lizzy influences. This tune used to get some radio play in Canada.

https://youtu.be/kYxPdOF6qQw

I have not.

The link you linked is unavailable. I did find a video to The Lucky Ones. I assume it's the same song. This is pretty poppy, but yes, total Thin Lizzy influence. Cool!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Zoom E on February 12, 2022, 09:07:39 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 12, 2022, 07:09:31 PM
Quote from: Zoom E on February 12, 2022, 06:59:57 PM
Quote from: TAC on February 11, 2022, 04:54:58 PM
Huh..never heard of them.
While I didn't love the song you linked, I checked out a few tracks on the album on Spotify. They are another one of those bands that channel some Thin Lizzy. My favorite of the bunch is Dead Lord.

TAC, have you ever heard Pride Tiger? I believe they just released one album, in 2007. Major Thin Lizzy influences. This tune used to get some radio play in Canada.

https://youtu.be/kYxPdOF6qQw

I have not.

The link you linked is unavailable. I did find a video to The Lucky Ones. I assume it's the same song. This is pretty poppy, but yes, total Thin Lizzy influence. Cool!

Yeah, pretty radio-friendly. The whole album is similar though less poppy, I would say.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on February 13, 2022, 10:40:49 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 12, 2022, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2022, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: nick_z on February 07, 2022, 05:16:12 PM
Here's another one of the random re-discoveries that I sometime share in this thread:

Dark at Dawn - "Crimson Frost" (2001)

I remember liking this when it came out and for some reason I've enjoyed revisiting it today. Peculiar power metal from Germany, with "burly" vocals and an epic feel. What makes it peculiar is the almost "gothic-metal" influence that creeps in at times. I can totally hear a mid-career Sentenced influence in some songs (the opener "The Frozen Tear", for example). To top it off, they cover Gary Moore's Out in the Fields and it kinda works!

Anyway - an interesting record. I don't think it's on the usual streaming platforms, but it looks like it's on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUV1nXX5js

Wow, this is excellent! :tup

Those vocals are hilarious. In a bad way.

I mean, they are not great, but not hilariously bad...Let's say they have "character" :biggrin: At times, they remind me a bit of Taneli Jarva's vocals on Sentenced's Amok album. I do think they fit the music ok but, yes, I have heard better ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2022, 02:47:25 PM: Damn, I checked out that new Saxon video for the Pilgrimage........that was fucking amazing!! Gotta get this album ASAP.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 13, 2022, 03:28:22 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 13, 2022, 02:47:25 PM
Damn, I checked out that new Saxon video for the Pilgrimage........that was fucking amazing!! Gotta get this album ASAP.

That's my favorite song on the album. For a band so long in their career, they are still excelling. Really one of the most dependable bands ever.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2022, 03:31:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 13, 2022, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 13, 2022, 02:47:25 PM
Damn, I checked out that new Saxon video for the Pilgrimage........that was fucking amazing!! Gotta get this album ASAP.

That's my favorite song on the album. For a band so long in their career, they are still excelling. Really one of the most dependable bands ever.

They just bring it, every time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 13, 2022, 07:21:05 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/big-john-harte-bodyguard-for-kiss-iron-maiden-billy-idol-dead-at-70

How'd you like to have a beer with this guy?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on February 14, 2022, 06:05:08 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 13, 2022, 07:21:05 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/big-john-harte-bodyguard-for-kiss-iron-maiden-billy-idol-dead-at-70

How'd you like to have a beer with this guy?

Um, can't. He's dead.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 14, 2022, 08:43:04 AM: Quote from: Podaar on February 14, 2022, 06:05:08 AM
Quote from: TAC on February 13, 2022, 07:21:05 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/big-john-harte-bodyguard-for-kiss-iron-maiden-billy-idol-dead-at-70

How'd you like to have a beer with this guy?

Um, can't. He's dead.

Hah!

You sure know how to kill the mood.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 15, 2022, 10:45:08 AM: Weirdest thing I’ve seen on YouTube today

https://youtu.be/gK_A5xJTUdU
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2022, 01:05:27 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 15, 2022, 10:45:08 AM
Weirdest thing I’ve seen on YouTube today

https://youtu.be/gK_A5xJTUdU

Ya know... mashups are kinda fun when they're naturally done, but when you have to edit the shit out of both songs of the mashup to make it work, weird doesn't begin to describe it. Terrible is more accurate. I lasted about a minute.

Do your worst.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on February 19, 2022, 02:55:26 AM: Just seen on Facebook that Dave Meniketti has been diagnosed with prostate cancer. He says they’ve caught it early and the prognosis is fairly good, but I’m not ready to lose Dave!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2022, 04:07:28 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on February 19, 2022, 02:55:26 AM
Just seen on Facebook that Dave Meniketti has been diagnosed with prostate cancer. He says they’ve caught it early and the prognosis is fairly good, but I’m not ready to lose Dave!

Bugger, hopefully then he can make a full recovery. Wonderful, underrated player.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on February 19, 2022, 05:21:28 AM: I had prostate cancer, five years ago now. Caught early it's a doddle. A very unpleasant and painful doddle, but not too serious. My life was never really in danger. Should be the same for Dave.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 20, 2022, 09:03:14 AM: (https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/274350360_5204317522924021_4786632094330902515_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=e3f864&_nc_ohc=DtgZsaiVggkAX9TMPzL&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=00_AT89UIJLderYj_Pgq7OkHbtcH3RGYvI7CJ63qsaJF8RpaQ&oe=621736B3)

Oh hell yes!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2022, 03:28:07 PM: Quote from: Podaar on February 19, 2022, 05:21:28 AM
I had prostate cancer, five years ago now. Caught early it's a doddle. A very unpleasant and painful doddle, but not too serious. My life was never really in danger. Should be the same for Dave.

Fuck man, thank God you caught in early.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2022, 03:29:02 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on February 20, 2022, 09:03:14 AM
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/274350360_5204317522924021_4786632094330902515_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=e3f864&_nc_ohc=DtgZsaiVggkAX9TMPzL&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=00_AT89UIJLderYj_Pgq7OkHbtcH3RGYvI7CJ63qsaJF8RpaQ&oe=621736B3)

Oh hell yes!

You know what, I wrote the last one off but I keep coming to it regularly enough. It's actually really very good. After the latest Ferrymen, really keen for this.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 26, 2022, 03:28:52 AM: I needed a laugh today....................thanks Udo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqOvc6dClaQ

:rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 26, 2022, 04:35:16 AM: Me:

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F744.gif&hash=1b3b6505129d1b4d5a5fbe98f2087d01de55cb1c)

I have that exact same sweeper/broom!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on February 26, 2022, 05:17:39 AM: Wow, that sucked on so many levels. I watched all of it in abject horror.

I can't believe anyone, especially Tim, likes Udo. Fuck, it's like listening to a throat cancer patient drown in gasoline.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2022, 07:32:49 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 26, 2022, 03:28:52 AM
I needed a laugh today....................thanks Udo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqOvc6dClaQ

:rollin

What's so funny about that? I thought it was awesome and kind of heartwarming, endearing. I'm sure any overnight janitor can relate. And musically, I thought the version was very UDO-ish, and pretty legit.

Quote from: Podaar on February 26, 2022, 05:17:39 AM
Wow, that sucked on so many levels. I watched all of it in abject horror.

I can't believe anyone, especially Tim, likes Udo. Fuck, it's like listening to a throat cancer patient drown in gasoline.

I'm much less of an Udo fan as I am an Accept fan. Early to mid 80's Accept is music of my youth. It's really about Wolf Hoffman's addictive Schenker-like tone. They had a great drummer that I loved too. I tolerated Udo then, but he was part of what made them unique.
I've not followed Udo's solo career.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 26, 2022, 03:06:06 PM: Apologies to any overnight janitors in here that we offended by my comments :angel:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2022, 03:10:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on February 26, 2022, 03:06:06 PM
Apologies to any overnight janitors in here that we offended by my comments :angel:

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/4ad740b1f9402c39322c8bf457c832c6/3d45f71ca5922b25-bc/s500x750/cd65faad9bc93562908abcc192153f7b20e0aa07.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2022, 07:37:26 PM: Quote from: Podaar on February 26, 2022, 05:17:39 AM
Wow, that sucked on so many levels. I watched all of it in abject horror.

I can't believe anyone, especially Tim, likes Udo. Fuck, it's like listening to a throat cancer patient drown in gasoline.

I'll check the vid later, but a lot if his solo stuff to me, is amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 26, 2022, 07:39:19 PM: He is so convincing in the video, because if there's one dude in metal that looks like a janitor, it's fucking Udo. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 27, 2022, 05:36:34 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 26, 2022, 07:39:19 PM
He is so convincing in the video, because if there's one dude in metal that looks like a janitor, it's fucking Udo. :lol

With a boiler like that, no shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2022, 03:18:56 PM: I thought was pretty entertaining and fun. Let the man have fun I say!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2022, 03:23:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 27, 2022, 03:18:56 PM
I thought was pretty entertaining and fun. Let the man have fun I say!

Yeah, especially working the overnight shift.

For such an iconic and simple song, there's only so much you can do with it, but I thought he did a great job with it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2022, 03:28:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 27, 2022, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 27, 2022, 03:18:56 PM
I thought was pretty entertaining and fun. Let the man have fun I say!

Yeah, especially working the overnight shift.

For such an iconic and simple song, there's only so much you can do with it, but I thought he did a great job with it.

It's just original, and love the amount if soloing in there. I mean, why the fuck not.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2022, 04:05:13 PM: I ain't gonna lie. I like it!

https://bravewords.com/news/fallen-sanctuary-featuring-members-of-serenity-and-temperance-release-debut-single-video-broken-dreams

Frontiers must be jealous.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2022, 05:12:47 AM: Lol, Tim, WTF?! That blew ass chunks! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on February 28, 2022, 06:02:26 AM: I saw that pop up in my FB feed, and was gonna give 'er a go. I'm a big fan of Neuhauser, so I was looking forward to spinning it. Guess I'll be the tiebreaker.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 01, 2022, 03:55:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 28, 2022, 05:12:47 AM
Lol, Tim, WTF?! That blew ass chunks! :lol

So...that's a no? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2022, 05:16:55 PM: Better than sucking ass chunks I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2022, 05:28:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 01, 2022, 03:55:50 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 28, 2022, 05:12:47 AM
Lol, Tim, WTF?! That blew ass chunks! :lol

So...that's a no? :lol

A big fat one
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2022, 04:28:23 AM: It wasn’t terrible I didn’t watch the video, so I’m referring to song quality only.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 04, 2022, 05:05:37 AM: New Mercenary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU23X1CChGA

I dig it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2022, 05:23:43 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 04, 2022, 05:05:37 AM
New Mercenary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU23X1CChGA

I dig it.

Jeez, it's about time. Through Our Darkest Days was incredible and this song follows suit. Good stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on March 04, 2022, 08:53:49 AM: Jani Liimatainen - 'All Dreams Are Born to Die' with Tony Kakko lead vocals
https://youtu.be/JlPgjJ3Q648
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Post by: Lowdz on March 04, 2022, 04:30:19 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on March 04, 2022, 08:53:49 AM
Jani Liimatainen - 'All Dreams Are Born to Die' with Tony Kakko lead vocals
https://youtu.be/JlPgjJ3Q648

That’s better than that total shite Tim posted 😁
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Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2022, 01:28:54 AM: Finally getting around to spinning the Tony Martin CD. 3 songs in and WTF, no guitar solos?! >:(

EDIT: Okay, some leads on track 4, hopefully it keeps going.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 16, 2022, 07:55:10 AM: There’s a new Sword album coming later this year

https://www.themetalvoice.com/post/new-sword-studio-album-will-be-released-in-fall-2022-says-singer-rick-hughes?fbclid=IwAR1wadS0VjV3FBv676t_9T2-WmKg_65VDWvL2PLgnH8Ox4wSlY0zxSfZQCQ

Also, I listened to a YouTube video of the Persian Risk albums from a few years ago that sounded like they were re-records of old tracks. I never reabothered with them back in the day but really enjoyed it. Will have to pick those albums up.
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Post by: TAC on March 17, 2022, 07:29:01 PM: So I listened to Bark At The Moon today. I listen to it about once a month, which is far more regularly than any other Ozzy album. I love this album, and it really gets me going. Is it blasphemous to not list one of the Randy albums as a Top Ozzy album, because I feel like Bark At the Moon has overtaken the #1 spot.
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Post by: nick_z on March 17, 2022, 07:33:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 17, 2022, 07:29:01 PM
So I listened to Bark At The Moon today. I listen to it about once a month, which is far more regularly than any other Ozzy album. I love this album, and it really gets me going. Is it blasphemous to not list one of the Randy albums as a Top Ozzy album, because I feel like Bark At the Moon has overtaken the #1 spot.

Looks like I'm stalking you on your Ozzy-related posts, but I promise it's just random ;D

Bark at the Moon was my first Ozzy, and on certain days it might still be my favorite too. Amazing, amazing album. And speaking of top Ozzy songs, Waiting for Darkness would no doubt be one of them for me.
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Post by: TAC on March 17, 2022, 07:33:59 PM: Quote from: nick_z on March 17, 2022, 07:33:16 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 17, 2022, 07:29:01 PM
So I listened to Bark At The Moon today. I listen to it about once a month, which is far more regularly than any other Ozzy album. I love this album, and it really gets me going. Is it blasphemous to not list one of the Randy albums as a Top Ozzy album, because I feel like Bark At the Moon has overtaken the #1 spot.

Looks like I'm stalking you on your Ozzy-related posted, but I promise it's just random ;D

Bark at the Moon was my first Ozzy, and on certain days it might still be my favorite too. Amazing, amazing album. And speaking of top Ozzy songs, Waiting for Darkness would no doubt be one of them for me.

Meet you in the other thread! :lol
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Post by: nick_z on March 17, 2022, 07:37:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 17, 2022, 07:33:59 PM
Quote from: nick_z on March 17, 2022, 07:33:16 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 17, 2022, 07:29:01 PM
So I listened to Bark At The Moon today. I listen to it about once a month, which is far more regularly than any other Ozzy album. I love this album, and it really gets me going. Is it blasphemous to not list one of the Randy albums as a Top Ozzy album, because I feel like Bark At the Moon has overtaken the #1 spot.

Looks like I'm stalking you on your Ozzy-related posted, but I promise it's just random ;D

Bark at the Moon was my first Ozzy, and on certain days it might still be my favorite too. Amazing, amazing album. And speaking of top Ozzy songs, Waiting for Darkness would no doubt be one of them for me.

Meet you in the other thread! :lol

I just did :lol
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 19, 2022, 01:25:14 PM: DAMPF - The Other Side (Official Music Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SPPbHf3zog&ab_channel=WarnerMusicFinland)

This is a bit diffrent, i'm not sure how many that's familiar with E-Type. He did a bunch of popular eurodance songs during the 90s. He's now started a metal band. :lol

Honestly, not to shabby.
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Post by: TAC on March 19, 2022, 08:17:25 PM: Randy Rhoads died 40 years ago today. Damn.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 19, 2022, 08:31:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 19, 2022, 08:17:25 PM
Randy Rhoads died 40 years ago today. Damn.

Yeah........tragedy.

I started with Jake era and worked my way back, but the year I bought Randy Rhoads Tribue I listened to almost nothing else the whole year :hefdaddy
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2022, 04:00:53 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 19, 2022, 08:17:25 PM
Randy Rhoads died 40 years ago today. Damn.

Damn. :(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2022, 04:59:49 PM: So I just sat and watched this entire 80 minute set from Saxon at Bloodstock 2021.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzCq9bI0OMs

I must say that besides the mighty Saxon, this might literally be one of the best filmed and edited concert videos I've ever seen. And the mix, while the bass is a tad low, pans each guitarist to each ear.

Fucking Biff Byford. Lots of chatter about James Labrie on the DT side of the forum, but Biff is like 15 years older.
:hefdaddy
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2022, 05:38:13 PM: I finally went out and picked up the new Saxon yesterday. Can't wait to rip into it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2022, 05:39:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2022, 04:59:49 PM
So I just sat and watched this entire 80 minute set from Saxon at Bloodstock 2021.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzCq9bI0OMs

I must say that besides the mighty Saxon, this might literally be one of the best filmed and edited concert videos I've ever seen. And the mix, while the bass is a tad low, pans each guitarist to each ear.

Fucking Biff Byford. Lots of chatter about James Labrie on the DT side of the forum, but Biff is like 15 years older.
:hefdaddy

I'll have a squizz at a couple of songs tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2022, 05:10:20 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2022, 04:59:49 PM
So I just sat and watched this entire 80 minute set from Saxon at Bloodstock 2021.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzCq9bI0OMs

I must say that besides the mighty Saxon, this might literally be one of the best filmed and edited concert videos I've ever seen. And the mix, while the bass is a tad low, pans each guitarist to each ear.

Fucking Biff Byford. Lots of chatter about James Labrie on the DT side of the forum, but Biff is like 15 years older.
:hefdaddy

Flicked through a couple of songs. Biff sounds amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2022, 10:03:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 20, 2022, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 20, 2022, 04:59:49 PM
So I just sat and watched this entire 80 minute set from Saxon at Bloodstock 2021.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzCq9bI0OMs

I must say that besides the mighty Saxon, this might literally be one of the best filmed and edited concert videos I've ever seen. And the mix, while the bass is a tad low, pans each guitarist to each ear.

Fucking Biff Byford. Lots of chatter about James Labrie on the DT side of the forum, but Biff is like 15 years older.
:hefdaddy

I'll have a squizz at a couple of songs tonight.

:zydarscouch:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on March 22, 2022, 09:51:29 AM: I had no expectations/context when I saw this, but the new Michael Monroe single is catchy! A fun song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ_nJuDkQf0&t=210s
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 22, 2022, 10:07:49 AM: Quote from: Deathless on March 22, 2022, 09:51:29 AM
I had no expectations/context when I saw this, but the new Michael Monroe single is catchy! A fun song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ_nJuDkQf0&t=210s

EDIT:

Wow, that was nice. What a great songwriter. That dude can write a chorus. I love Michael Monroe. He's the real deal, and has built an amazing post Hanoi Rocks career and discography.
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Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2022, 05:12:17 PM: I don't think I know a single thing from this guy.
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Post by: TAC on March 22, 2022, 05:20:13 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 22, 2022, 05:12:17 PM
I don't think I know a single thing from this guy.

I wouldn't recommend him to you.

He was the singer of Hanoi Rocks back in the 80's. Their drummer was the guy killed in the Vince Neil drunk driving accident.

I liked Hanoi Rocks as a kid, and remember when that happened. Michael Monroe plays an LA sleaze rock style that I don't think you'd care for. But what I like about him is that he's fucking real. And a lifer. He's had a consistent band for years now and they're tight AF. Just good barroom/rock club music. Hits a spot for me.
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Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2022, 05:48:27 PM: I'll have a listen to that link tonight at least mate and report back.
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Post by: TAC on March 22, 2022, 07:04:15 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 22, 2022, 05:48:27 PM
I'll have a listen to that link tonight at least mate and report back.

Cool. If you can make it past the first couple of lines, you should be ok. :lol

Here's couple of cool tracks..Last Train To Tokyo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZegMf2p1J4)

Old King's Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siImwtHDmXU)

Goin' Down With The Ship (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23KAL0fft7w)

He's kind of a mix of late 70's punk and LA Glam.
The dude will be 60 in a couple of months. He looks 80! :lol But hey, you gotta respect that.

He's from Finland.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 22, 2022, 07:22:50 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/anthrax-forging-new-metal-in-the-studio

Love Charlie's MSG shirt!
(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2022/AnthraxStudio2022.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2022, 04:49:05 AM: Quote from: Deathless on March 22, 2022, 09:51:29 AM
I had no expectations/context when I saw this, but the new Michael Monroe single is catchy! A fun song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ_nJuDkQf0&t=210s

Made it to the end of the first chorus. I thought this was horrible.

Tim good call, not for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2022, 05:24:08 AM: Quote from: Deathless on March 22, 2022, 09:51:29 AM
I had no expectations/context when I saw this, but the new Michael Monroe single is catchy! A fun song.

So is chlamydia.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 23, 2022, 09:04:19 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 22, 2022, 07:22:50 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/anthrax-forging-new-metal-in-the-studio

Love Charlie's MSG shirt!
(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2022/AnthraxStudio2022.jpg)

Hell yeah!!! :metal :metal :metal About f*ckin' time!!! :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: DoctorAction on March 23, 2022, 12:49:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 22, 2022, 07:22:50 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/anthrax-forging-new-metal-in-the-studio

Love Charlie's MSG shirt!
(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2022/AnthraxStudio2022.jpg)

Yeeeessss!
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Post by: nick_z on March 23, 2022, 12:51:18 PM: Great news - I loved For All Kings. Liked it much, much better than Worship Music, so I'm excited to hear what they are cooking.
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Post by: Deathless on March 23, 2022, 02:50:09 PM: Weird, wonder what happened since they were full speed ahead with ZP.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/skid-row-parts-ways-with-singer-zp-theart-replaces-him-with-ex-h-e-a-t-frontman-erik-gronwall/
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Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2022, 04:28:34 PM: Quote from: Deathless on March 23, 2022, 02:50:09 PM
Weird, wonder what happened since they were full speed ahead with ZP.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/skid-row-parts-ways-with-singer-zp-theart-replaces-him-with-ex-h-e-a-t-frontman-erik-gronwall/

He's a better fit than Theart................has the raw energy and live chops that they've been missing. Probably boosts their profile in Europe but it's all pretty late in the game.
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2022, 03:43:05 PM: Ran through Blizzard Of Ozz this morning, and I must say that Don Airey has some very tasty parts on the album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on March 25, 2022, 07:43:30 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on March 23, 2022, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: Deathless on March 23, 2022, 02:50:09 PM
Weird, wonder what happened since they were full speed ahead with ZP.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/skid-row-parts-ways-with-singer-zp-theart-replaces-him-with-ex-h-e-a-t-frontman-erik-gronwall/

He's a better fit than Theart................has the raw energy and live chops that they've been missing. Probably boosts their profile in Europe but it's all pretty late in the game.

For sure. New song was released today, what are all your thoughts? I think the Music and production is pretty good, some of the vocals/lyrics are meh. Interested to hear the rest of the album later this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVBK1bvCczU
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2022, 09:00:50 AM: I dug it.
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Post by: DoctorAction on March 25, 2022, 09:59:49 AM: Lyrics are fucking horrible. Seriously. Who are they aiming at with that?

The singer from HEAT is cool, though, and I liked their first 2 records a lot. If they could fix them lyrics I'll be right on board.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2022, 10:56:16 AM: Quote from: DoctorAction on March 25, 2022, 09:59:49 AM
Lyrics are fucking horrible. Seriously. Who are they aiming at with that?

The singer from HEAT is cool, though, and I liked their first 2 records a lot. If they could fix them lyrics I'll be right on board.

Fortunately, I was multi-tasking, and not really paying attention to the lyrics!
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Post by: Grappler on March 25, 2022, 11:11:05 AM: I think he sounds very close to Sebastian Bach, almost like an Arnel/Steve Perry thing. The song reminded me of classic Skid Row.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on March 25, 2022, 02:24:53 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 25, 2022, 10:56:16 AM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 25, 2022, 09:59:49 AM
Lyrics are fucking horrible. Seriously. Who are they aiming at with that?

The singer from HEAT is cool, though, and I liked their first 2 records a lot. If they could fix them lyrics I'll be right on board.

Fortunately, I was multi-tasking, and not really paying attention to the lyrics!

:lol
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Post by: Deathless on March 25, 2022, 03:17:26 PM: Quote from: DoctorAction on March 25, 2022, 09:59:49 AM
Lyrics are fucking horrible. Seriously. Who are they aiming at with that?

The singer from HEAT is cool, though, and I liked their first 2 records a lot. If they could fix them lyrics I'll be right on board.

Yeah on a second and third listen they are BAD. Also, I don't personally dig the spaces where it's just the singer singing over a drum beat but it's OK. I love the guitars and production. If this is a middling/decent track the album should be good.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 29, 2022, 03:58:56 PM: Quote from: DoctorAction on March 25, 2022, 09:59:49 AM
Lyrics are fucking horrible. Seriously. Who are they aiming at with that?

The singer from HEAT is cool, though, and I liked their first 2 records a lot. If they could fix them lyrics I'll be right on board.

He wasn’t the singer on the first two HEAT albums, that was the guy with the gigantic mouth that I really can’t watch. Erik has one of those voices that I can listen to on anything- it just sounds great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 29, 2022, 09:01:10 PM: Blackout was released 40 years ago today.

I bought the cassette at a campground/gas station in North Carolina as we were driving to Florida. My father let me get it, but warned me that I might not be able to get something at Disney, which is where we were heading. That was fine with me.

1982 was the summer between my 8th and 9th grade. I was 13.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on March 30, 2022, 01:33:08 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on March 29, 2022, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 25, 2022, 09:59:49 AM
Lyrics are fucking horrible. Seriously. Who are they aiming at with that?

The singer from HEAT is cool, though, and I liked their first 2 records a lot. If they could fix them lyrics I'll be right on board.

He wasn’t the singer on the first two HEAT albums, that was the guy with the gigantic mouth that I really can’t watch. Erik has one of those voices that I can listen to on anything- it just sounds great.

I've only heard H.E.A.T II, tbh.
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Post by: TAC on March 30, 2022, 02:56:16 PM: Here's the new guy with Skid Row.
https://youtu.be/2_kplXloSwc?t=46
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2022, 03:47:45 PM: Quote from: DoctorAction on March 30, 2022, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 29, 2022, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 25, 2022, 09:59:49 AM
Lyrics are fucking horrible. Seriously. Who are they aiming at with that?

The singer from HEAT is cool, though, and I liked their first 2 records a lot. If they could fix them lyrics I'll be right on board.

He wasn’t the singer on the first two HEAT albums, that was the guy with the gigantic mouth that I really can’t watch. Erik has one of those voices that I can listen to on anything- it just sounds great.

I've only heard H.E.A.T II, tbh.

Tearing Down the Walls and Address the Nation are both brilliant. Especially ATN. Don't care for much else from these guys.
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Post by: DoctorAction on April 01, 2022, 08:03:34 AM: Will have a bash. Nice one.
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Post by: gazinwales on April 01, 2022, 09:45:57 AM: The always brilliant Tommy Johansson does it again with is take on Alone
https://youtu.be/K7iDWCZNu4c
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on April 01, 2022, 12:16:20 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 30, 2022, 02:56:16 PM
Here's the new guy with Skid Row.
https://youtu.be/2_kplXloSwc?t=46

Do you think he sounds just like Bas? He's really close at times, in others he's not. Actually reminds me a bit of Todd with Queensryche. Has some nice grit to his voice in places.

I never saw them with Bach but he had an incredible range back in the day.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on April 01, 2022, 04:03:16 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 30, 2022, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 30, 2022, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on March 29, 2022, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 25, 2022, 09:59:49 AM
Lyrics are fucking horrible. Seriously. Who are they aiming at with that?

The singer from HEAT is cool, though, and I liked their first 2 records a lot. If they could fix them lyrics I'll be right on board.

He wasn’t the singer on the first two HEAT albums, that was the guy with the gigantic mouth that I really can’t watch. Erik has one of those voices that I can listen to on anything- it just sounds great.

I've only heard H.E.A.T II, tbh.

Tearing Down the Walls and Address the Nation are both brilliant. Especially ATN. Don't care for much else from these guys.

I tried ATN tonight. Holy shit, that cheese is intense! Pungent! The Leppardisms on the title track were quite offensive to me but the full force flavour kept me in. For a while. Then I had to bail. I'll go back to it cos if there are other songs without the Lep vibes I expect I'll be tickled. I played Adrenalin from HEAT II afterward and that fully delivered.
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Post by: TAC on April 01, 2022, 04:08:30 PM: Speaking of Leppardisms...

I posted this in the Album Thread last week.

Quote from: TAC on March 25, 2022, 06:25:46 PM
(https://images.roughtrade.com/product/images/files/000/238/093/original/open-uri20220303-30780-1557hq7?1646311569)

Released today. Really digging the Old School vibe on this. The singer has a great voice too.

The Tiger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8kutDV6zR8

Kassiopeia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_0wz8UtlQ
Early 80's style heavy metal instrumental. Reminds me a bit of March Of The Crabs. :metal

Good shit!

...and purchased! Fucking love this!

I am LOVING this album. Has one clunker (Hungry For Your Heart-what a fucking icky title). Reminds me a bit of Pyromania Era Def Leppard.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 01, 2022, 05:05:17 PM: Added to my 'check it out list' of 2022 releases.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2022, 03:36:12 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 01, 2022, 04:08:30 PM
Speaking of Leppardisms...

I posted this in the Album Thread last week.

Quote from: TAC on March 25, 2022, 06:25:46 PM
(https://images.roughtrade.com/product/images/files/000/238/093/original/open-uri20220303-30780-1557hq7?1646311569)

Released today. Really digging the Old School vibe on this. The singer has a great voice too.

The Tiger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8kutDV6zR8

Kassiopeia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_0wz8UtlQ
Early 80's style heavy metal instrumental. Reminds me a bit of March Of The Crabs. :metal

Good shit!

...and purchased! Fucking love this!

I am LOVING this album. Has one clunker (Hungry For Your Heart-what a fucking icky title). Reminds me a bit of Pyromania Era Def Leppard.

Sounds like a hundred other NWOBHM albums that went nowhere to me. Each to their own 🤷‍♂️
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 03:53:00 AM: Yeah, I checked one track, it was....solid.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2022, 05:41:44 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 03:53:00 AM
Yeah, I checked one track, it was....solid.

I'm two songs in, and i would concur. I don't get the Leppard vibes (yet). I'll spin the whole thing, but atm, I'm not thinking it's something I'll come back to. This year has actually been littered with some really good releases, and we're not even 100 days into the year. I've bought already bought 5 albums, and have another 15 saved on Spotify.
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Post by: TAC on April 02, 2022, 06:12:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 03:53:00 AM
Yeah, I checked one track, it was....solid.

This review is solid.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2022, 09:47:24 AM: Spun the whole thing. It improved as it went along. I think I will give this a few more listens.
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Post by: TAC on April 02, 2022, 01:27:10 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 02, 2022, 09:47:24 AM
Spun the whole thing. It improved as it went along. I think I will give this a few more listens.

Yeah, there's some excellent old school style music on it. I dig it big time. I mean I could do without Hunger For Your Heart and Fever Eyes is pretty weak, but I like everything else on it. The Tiger is an awesome tune.
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 09:38:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 02, 2022, 06:12:02 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 03:53:00 AM
Yeah, I checked one track, it was....solid.

This review is solid.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xSM46ernAUN3y/giphy.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 11:32:02 PM: New Hammerfall is really really good!! :metal
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Post by: DoctorAction on April 03, 2022, 12:39:00 AM: I enjoyed Bomber enough but not to come back to. Would be abs delighted to walk into a small local venue and find them playing though.

Spidergawd VI is still getting regular rotation for me in the classic rock/metal area. Just some perfect moments on there. The sound, the vibe. Will be one of my AOTY contenders, for sure. :metal

There are a couple of slightly-scruffy-sounding, female-fronted bands I like in this area too.

Tower - Shock To The System
Sanhedrin - Lights On

Neither are perfect but both have good vibe. Tower, I'd love to see live. She just pushes every vocal to the max. :lol

The chick from Sanhedrin sounds a LOT like comeback era Joey Tempest to me, strangely.

And just because I'd feel bad if I didn't mention it - King Witch - Body Of Light is a cracker.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 03, 2022, 01:04:48 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 11:32:02 PM
New Hammerfall is really really good!! :metal

I played it last week and enjoyed it. And that’s never happened with a Hammerfall album before :omg:
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Post by: TAC on April 03, 2022, 02:21:35 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 11:32:02 PM
New Hammerfall is really really good!! :metal

Hell yes, I said that when I got it. Reminds me of Renegade a bit. Did you catch the King Diamond cameo?

This is the best Hammerfall album for me in a long time.
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Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 06:50:43 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 03, 2022, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 11:32:02 PM
New Hammerfall is really really good!! :metal

Hell yes, I said that when I got it. Reminds me of Renegade a bit. Did you catch the King Diamond cameo?

This is the best Hammerfall album for me in a long time.

Whhhaa?? I'll relisten today. How did I miss this?? Look forward to finding them.
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Post by: TAC on April 03, 2022, 07:08:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 03, 2022, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 11:32:02 PM
New Hammerfall is really really good!! :metal

Hell yes, I said that when I got it. Reminds me of Renegade a bit. Did you catch the King Diamond cameo?

This is the best Hammerfall album for me in a long time.

Whhhaa?? I'll relisten today. How did I miss this?? Look forward to finding them.

It's just in one spot.
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Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 07:15:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 03, 2022, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 03, 2022, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 11:32:02 PM
New Hammerfall is really really good!! :metal

Hell yes, I said that when I got it. Reminds me of Renegade a bit. Did you catch the King Diamond cameo?

This is the best Hammerfall album for me in a long time.

Whhhaa?? I'll relisten today. How did I miss this?? Look forward to finding them.

It's just in one spot.

I'll spin the album again soon.

Stuck working from home today as I was a bit crook late last week and on the weekend so did one of those RAT tests that came back a strong positive for COVID! This was all I need haha. Point of the story is, I'll get a bit of listening done today.
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Post by: TAC on April 03, 2022, 07:17:25 PM: Oh shit, that sucks.
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Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 07:20:35 PM: Meh, it's been fine. Bad body aches, fever, fatigue, headaches and bit of a sore throat. To be honest, I've had flus worse than this in the past. If COVID wasn't a thing, I'd continue through it without missing a beat. Only did a test because I thought I should as it's the done thing these days. It's really nothing though.....for me anyway. I'm not vaxxed either so not sure how much of that comes into play, but after this there's nothing telling me I should go out and get jabbed.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 03, 2022, 07:29:39 PM: Damn man. I hope this doesn't get worse for you.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 07:46:29 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 03, 2022, 07:29:39 PM
Damn man. I hope this doesn't get worse for you.

thanks mate. I'm already on the up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 07:47:06 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 03, 2022, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 03, 2022, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 02, 2022, 11:32:02 PM
New Hammerfall is really really good!! :metal

Hell yes, I said that when I got it. Reminds me of Renegade a bit. Did you catch the King Diamond cameo?

This is the best Hammerfall album for me in a long time.

Whhhaa?? I'll relisten today. How did I miss this?? Look forward to finding them.

It's just in one spot.

That's really hidden right at the back half of Venerate Me. Seems pointless to be honest.
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Post by: TAC on April 03, 2022, 07:47:52 PM: It is, kinda.
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Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 08:24:46 PM: Great album though. Some very cool creative solo sections too. Pontus has some great chops.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 11:22:39 PM: Holy fuck, this new Saxon album fucking rips!! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2022, 06:31:43 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 11:22:39 PM
Holy fuck, this new Saxon album fucking rips!! :metal

Ran through it again. How old are these badasses? This is fucking quality heavy metal. Nothing soft on here either. There is some of their heaviest shit here. Age of Steam and Supernova absolutely burn!!

The Pilgrimage brings Lionheart era to mind and everything about this song is perfectly executed. Lady in Gray is like Queen of Hearts 2.0 also, great song.

What an album, this could rank almost at the top of the whole later day Saxon era. Incredible.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 04, 2022, 01:59:39 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2022, 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 03, 2022, 11:22:39 PM
Holy fuck, this new Saxon album fucking rips!! :metal

Ran through it again. How old are these badasses? This is fucking quality heavy metal.

Biff Byford-71 (original member)
Paul Quinn-69 (original member)
Nigel Glockner-71 (drummer from 81-99, rejoining in '05)
Doug Scarratt-62 (guitarist since '96)
Nibs Carter-56 (bassist since '88)
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Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2022, 03:37:16 PM: Incredible.
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Post by: TAC on April 04, 2022, 05:35:56 PM: Kade, listening to Evil Invaders.

I don't know whether to :lol or :metal .

My fucking throat hurts just listening to this guy. Musically it's pretty solid though.
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Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2022, 05:44:50 PM: :lol I love the vocals personally. But yeah, dunno how the dude has vocal cords left!

Eternal Darkness! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2022, 04:35:57 AM: Why would you do this to me, Kade??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2022, 10:00:02 AM: Quote from: Mat Sinner's FB page
After such a log break, we can finally announce that we've started working on a new PRIMAL FEAR ALBUM

:caffeine:
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Post by: nick_z on April 05, 2022, 03:59:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 01, 2022, 04:08:30 PM
Speaking of Leppardisms...

I posted this in the Album Thread last week.

Quote from: TAC on March 25, 2022, 06:25:46 PM
(https://images.roughtrade.com/product/images/files/000/238/093/original/open-uri20220303-30780-1557hq7?1646311569)

Released today. Really digging the Old School vibe on this. The singer has a great voice too.

The Tiger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8kutDV6zR8

Kassiopeia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_0wz8UtlQ
Early 80's style heavy metal instrumental. Reminds me a bit of March Of The Crabs. :metal

Good shit!

...and purchased! Fucking love this!

I am LOVING this album. Has one clunker (Hungry For Your Heart-what a fucking icky title). Reminds me a bit of Pyromania Era Def Leppard.

I gotta say, I'm enjoying this. I actually don't dislike Hungry For Your Heart...if I have to pick out a semi-clunker, I'd say Fever Eyes. But you are right that The Tiger is fantastic.

Since you mentioned this in parallel with Seven Sisters - for my taste, I prefer Seven Sisters' sound, but this is a cool album, for sure.

Quote from: TAC on April 04, 2022, 05:35:56 PM
Kade, listening to Evil Invaders.

I don't know whether to :lol or :metal .

My fucking throat hurts just listening to this guy. Musically it's pretty solid though.

Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2022, 05:44:50 PM
:lol I love the vocals personally. But yeah, dunno how the dude has vocal cords left!

Eternal Darkness! :metal

:lol Yeah, the vocals sound borderline insane at times. Maybe a little much, although I'm getting used to them, a couple of listens in. The album is very good though - some tasty, melodic thrashing going on in here!
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Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2022, 04:01:01 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 05, 2022, 04:35:57 AM
Why would you do this to me, Kade??

Lol, sorry mate. I didn't think the vocals were that far out there but when Tim commented I was like........'ah shit hahaha'!
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Post by: TAC on April 05, 2022, 04:02:14 PM: Fever Eyes isn't a great track. The chorus kind of lets it down. Walk With Titans (Hearts Will Break) sounds like it was directly lifted from Pyromania.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2022, 04:02:49 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 05, 2022, 10:00:02 AM
Quote from: Mat Sinner's FB page
After such a log break, we can finally announce that we've started working on a new PRIMAL FEAR ALBUM

:caffeine:

Hopefully means Matt is back fit and healthy again.
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Post by: nick_z on April 10, 2022, 11:32:42 AM: (https://i.discogs.com/mFEKSxPgc1G4EiTPJ1Iaqmk1O2CuY2nrRIY38kFB7N0/rs:fit/g:sm/q:40/h:300/w:300/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTM1MzA4/MjYtMTUyMjU4MzYy/OC03NzE5LmpwZWc.jpeg)

Oracle - As Darkness Reigns (1993)

Do you guys know this one? I was dusting off some old stuff, and this CD came up. A few posts above we were talking about throat-shredding vocals - well, it's not too different here ;D The singer is actually very good when he doesn't go over-the-top screaming but, man, when he does, it's a little much (and they could probably lose some of the oh-oooh-ohs...)

This band was originally called Prodigy and had a demo - in fact, it sounds like this is just the demo re-published as the debut. As far as I know, this is the only thing they released. The sound is kinda raw, but there is some tasty US power-prog here. The riffage is great and pretty fierce, almost thrashy at times.

The whole thing is a tad exhausting in one sitting - everyone is playing with almost relentless intensity (that drummer is pounding pretty hard!) and the songs are long. There's a lot of soloing with classical influences, and the sweeps come from all over ;D Again, it's a little out of control sometimes, and they could all use some restraint (you can tell it's a demo - a well-recorded one, for sure, but a demo nonetheless)...I guess it was youthful exuberance...

Anyway, I've always had a fondness for this one and I enjoy it when I occasionally revisit it.

No streaming, but the album is here if you are curious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1a8WlRE-zQ

(Looks like the singer passed away - RIP :-[)
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Post by: TAC on April 10, 2022, 12:08:44 PM: Nick, that is fucking tasty. Seems the drummer is Brent Smedley on this.
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Post by: nick_z on April 10, 2022, 12:20:55 PM: Yes, that's right! And his brother Kent on guitars...

Metal Archives has this other band, Eternal Odyssey, with just the two of them, releasing an album in 2019 (Awakenings). I'll have to check that one out.
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Post by: TAC on April 12, 2022, 02:33:11 PM: This popped into my youtube feed today. Great footage of Accept from 1981.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt1k6I0aptM
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Post by: TAC on April 20, 2022, 08:13:05 AM: Listened to a fantastic interview this morning..

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dean-delrays-let-there-be-talk/id546210508

..just scroll down to the Viv one, I think its the third one down.

I saw a brief recap on youtube about his time with Dio and not getting paid, so I accessed this, the whole interview, and I literally just sat through the entire 90 minutes. It's career spanning and gives insights into playing in Ireland, his love for Gary Moore and Thin Lizzy, joining Dio, his cancer, and his time with Def Leppard. He interview asks they key questions and it's really revealing.

@ Kingshmegland, he mentions New Hampshire about the 55 (55:20) minute mark, and again mentions that he lives on the East Coast towards the end when talking about recording the new Def Lep album.

I wish I liked Def Leppard's music more. I really do.
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Post by: nick_z on April 22, 2022, 01:00:42 PM: (https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a4222178536_10.jpg)

Stray Gods - "Storm the Walls"

Ok, so this is for the most part pure Iron Maiden worship, so don't expect anything new...but I guess I'm enjoying this more than I should? ;D

The band is from Greece and, in a way, the sound is a mix of early and more recent Maiden. Sometimes it's almost uncanny how similar the singer sounds to Dickinson (the beginning of Black Horses!). I can hear a slight power metal influence in Naked in the Fire (Edguy, maybe?) and some 80s melodic hard rock in Love in the Dark (and dare I say the solo is a little Mr Crowley-esque?), but otherwise we are talking Iron Maiden through and through.

It's short and sweet, though, and a fun listen!
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Post by: TAC on April 22, 2022, 01:39:15 PM: :rollin :rollin

This is too much!

I have about a half dozen albums in my Spotify that sound just like Maiden.

It's actually pretty good musically. It's just hard to take these vocals seriously.
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Post by: TAC on April 22, 2022, 05:29:09 PM: Saw this on a new album ticker..

Dorothy-Gifts From The Holy Ghost

Here's a video to the song Rest In Peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg2P3MH5WYs

Pretty standard musically, but holy shit she has an amazing voice! Gonna check out the rest of the album and will report back..
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Post by: jammindude on April 22, 2022, 05:41:32 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 22, 2022, 05:29:09 PM
Saw this on a new album ticker..

Dorothy-Gifts From The Holy Ghost

Here's a video to the song Rest In Peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg2P3MH5WYs

Pretty standard musically, but holy shit she has an amazing voice! Gonna check out the rest of the album and will report back..

That song was so country I thought it was gonna marry its cousin.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2022, 05:45:00 PM: Quote from: jammindude on April 22, 2022, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 22, 2022, 05:29:09 PM
Saw this on a new album ticker..

Dorothy-Gifts From The Holy Ghost

Here's a video to the song Rest In Peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg2P3MH5WYs

Pretty standard musically, but holy shit she has an amazing voice! Gonna check out the rest of the album and will report back..

That song was so country I thought it was gonna marry its cousin.

:lol

Country? :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2022, 06:34:32 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 22, 2022, 01:39:15 PM
:rollin :rollin

This is too much!

I have about a half dozen albums in my Spotify that sound just like Maiden.

You want a replica of Maiden?? Try Monument - Hair of the Dog is a good song/album as evidence. If imitation is the sincerest form of flatter, then Maiden is flattered-as-fuck by these guys.
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Post by: TAC on April 23, 2022, 12:17:39 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 23, 2022, 06:34:32 AM
Quote from: TAC on April 22, 2022, 01:39:15 PM
:rollin :rollin

This is too much!

I have about a half dozen albums in my Spotify that sound just like Maiden.

You want a replica of Maiden?? Try Monument - Hair of the Dog is a good song/album as evidence. If imitation is the sincerest form of flatter, then Maiden is flattered-as-fuck by these guys.

Yes, you hooked me up with then a few years ago.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2022, 04:26:02 PM: Although I quoted you, the comment was directed to Nick mostly.
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Post by: TAC on April 23, 2022, 04:28:34 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 23, 2022, 04:26:02 PM
Although I quoted you, the comment was directed to Nick mostly.

:blush :blush :blush :blush :blush
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Post by: nick_z on April 23, 2022, 04:44:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 23, 2022, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on April 23, 2022, 04:26:02 PM
Although I quoted you, the comment was directed to Nick mostly.

:blush :blush :blush :blush :blush

:) :)

I'm a sucker for some good Iron Maiden worship, so I'll be sure to give Monument a try
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Post by: jammindude on April 24, 2022, 10:27:57 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 22, 2022, 05:45:00 PM
Quote from: jammindude on April 22, 2022, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 22, 2022, 05:29:09 PM
Saw this on a new album ticker..

Dorothy-Gifts From The Holy Ghost

Here's a video to the song Rest In Peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg2P3MH5WYs

Pretty standard musically, but holy shit she has an amazing voice! Gonna check out the rest of the album and will report back..

That song was so country I thought it was gonna marry its cousin.

:lol

Country? :lol

If you don’t hear the country in that song, then you haven’t heard modern country.

She’s got a good voice, but I really don’t care for that “waitin all day for a Sunday night [football]” type of modern country rock style.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 25, 2022, 05:25:02 AM: (https://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/5274420.jpg)

Hope it was a banger of a date, Brent.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 25, 2022, 08:37:26 AM: Thanks mate..................if I'm honest it was pretty average. Been laid up with neck/back issues so spent the first half of the day cold packing and loading up on painkillers and the second half of the day working.

Meanwhile it was a public holiday (for most) and the rest of the family went out and had a great day at the football Something not right there :lol

Lots of nice messages though which put a smile on my dial :tup
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Post by: TAC on April 25, 2022, 09:11:42 AM: Oh shit it’s Brent’s birthday?!!

Happy Birthday, Brother!!!!
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Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 02:42:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 25, 2022, 08:37:26 AM
Thanks mate..................if I'm honest it was pretty average. Been laid up with neck/back issues so spent the first half of the day cold packing and loading up on painkillers and the second half of the day working.

Meanwhile it was a public holiday (for most) and the rest of the family went out and had a great day at the football Something not right there :lol

Lots of nice messages though which put a smile on my dial :tup

Shit, sorry I missed it mate! All the best.

And hey, what's wrong with the footy?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 25, 2022, 04:52:16 PM: Thanks Tim and Kade :)

Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 02:42:11 PM

And hey, what's wrong with the footy?

Nothing..........I was referrring to the family going out and having a great time on my birthday and me staying at home icepacking my back and working.
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Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 05:02:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 25, 2022, 04:52:16 PM
Thanks Tim and Kade :)

Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 02:42:11 PM

And hey, what's wrong with the footy?

Nothing..........I was referrring to the family going out and having a great time on my birthday and me staying at home icepacking my back and working.

Ah yeah.....that's actually a pretty fair point! :lol
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Post by: nick_z on April 25, 2022, 06:34:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 25, 2022, 09:11:42 AM
Oh shit it’s Brent’s birthday?!!

Happy Birthday, Brother!!!!

Ah! Happy Birthday from me too! I'm kinda new here, but this is your thread and it seems to me it's only fair to celebrate the host :)

Hope you feel better soon!
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Post by: TAC on April 25, 2022, 07:16:44 PM: Brent is a living legend, Nick. Not sure if the links are still active but his podcasts in the OP are outstanding.
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Post by: Bolsters on April 25, 2022, 08:03:06 PM: (https://i.imgur.com/EMyJ3gZ.gif)
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Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 09:13:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 25, 2022, 07:16:44 PM
Brent is a living legend, Nick. Not sure if the links are still active but his podcasts in the OP are outstanding.

Yes, and we are still waiting anxiously for the next one! ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on April 26, 2022, 12:40:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 25, 2022, 07:16:44 PM
Brent is a living legend, Nick. Not sure if the links are still active but his podcasts in the OP are outstanding.

Yes, and we are still waiting anxiously for the next one! ;D

Appreciate the sentiments guys..............they're more popular now than when I was doing them :lol Who knows...........I might need to survey you guys and create a podcast of the best of the last few years for my own benefit seeing as I've been off the grid. Would need to remember how to do it all though.

Thanks Nick and Bolsters (good to see you back around)
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on April 27, 2022, 09:01:34 AM: Sharing here a brand new interview I did with Rachel Bolan of Skid Riw:

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/interviews/interview-with-rachel-bolan/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on April 29, 2022, 07:17:53 AM: Michael Schenker did a Rainbow tribute song with Michael Kiske singing and the Rainbow rising rhythm section of Bob Daisley and Bob Rondinelli. I haven't checked out as much MSG lately but may need to check this upcoming album out...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tW4UqC16nvM
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 29, 2022, 08:05:21 AM: Quote from: Deathless on April 29, 2022, 07:17:53 AM
Michael Schenker did a Rainbow tribute song with Michael Kiske singing and the Rainbow rising rhythm section of Bob Daisley and Bob Rondinelli. I haven't checked out as much MSG lately but may need to check this upcoming album out...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tW4UqC16nvM

Moving to the UFO Thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 29, 2022, 01:58:41 PM: Quote from: Deathless on April 29, 2022, 07:17:53 AM
Michael Schenker did a Rainbow tribute song with Michael Kiske singing and the Rainbow rising rhythm section of Bob Daisley and Bob Rondinelli. I haven't checked out as much MSG lately but may need to check this upcoming album out...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tW4UqC16nvM

Deathless, lyrically, it's actually a tribute to Ronnie Dio. We've been talking about it in the UFO Discography Thread. Mind you, Schenker has no idea what any of his songs are about. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on April 29, 2022, 03:24:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 26, 2022, 12:40:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 25, 2022, 07:16:44 PM
Brent is a living legend, Nick. Not sure if the links are still active but his podcasts in the OP are outstanding.

Yes, and we are still waiting anxiously for the next one! ;D

Appreciate the sentiments guys..............they're more popular now than when I was doing them :lol Who knows...........I might need to survey you guys and create a podcast of the best of the last few years for my own benefit seeing as I've been off the grid. Would need to remember how to do it all though.

Thanks Nick and Bolsters (good to see you back around)

The software is probably 4 or 5 generations further on it’s been that long .. should be a piece of piss 😁😁
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2022, 03:28:04 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on April 29, 2022, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 26, 2022, 12:40:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 25, 2022, 07:16:44 PM
Brent is a living legend, Nick. Not sure if the links are still active but his podcasts in the OP are outstanding.

Yes, and we are still waiting anxiously for the next one! ;D

Appreciate the sentiments guys..............they're more popular now than when I was doing them :lol Who knows...........I might need to survey you guys and create a podcast of the best of the last few years for my own benefit seeing as I've been off the grid. Would need to remember how to do it all though.

Thanks Nick and Bolsters (good to see you back around)

The software is probably 4 or 5 generations further on it’s been that long .. should be a piece of piss 😁😁

The way it's going, Ben will be running the podcast with his own son at this rate! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 30, 2022, 07:26:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 29, 2022, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 29, 2022, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 26, 2022, 12:40:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 25, 2022, 07:16:44 PM
Brent is a living legend, Nick. Not sure if the links are still active but his podcasts in the OP are outstanding.

Yes, and we are still waiting anxiously for the next one! ;D

Appreciate the sentiments guys..............they're more popular now than when I was doing them :lol Who knows...........I might need to survey you guys and create a podcast of the best of the last few years for my own benefit seeing as I've been off the grid. Would need to remember how to do it all though.

Thanks Nick and Bolsters (good to see you back around)

The software is probably 4 or 5 generations further on it’s been that long .. should be a piece of piss 😁😁

The way it's going, Ben will be running the podcast with his own son at this rate! ;D

10/10 ... would listen.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2022, 08:15:09 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 30, 2022, 07:26:54 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 29, 2022, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 29, 2022, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 26, 2022, 12:40:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2022, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 25, 2022, 07:16:44 PM
Brent is a living legend, Nick. Not sure if the links are still active but his podcasts in the OP are outstanding.

Yes, and we are still waiting anxiously for the next one! ;D

Appreciate the sentiments guys..............they're more popular now than when I was doing them :lol Who knows...........I might need to survey you guys and create a podcast of the best of the last few years for my own benefit seeing as I've been off the grid. Would need to remember how to do it all though.

Thanks Nick and Bolsters (good to see you back around)

The software is probably 4 or 5 generations further on it’s been that long .. should be a piece of piss 😁😁

The way it's going, Ben will be running the podcast with his own son at this rate! ;D

10/10 ... would listen.

Plenty of Judas Priest so I'm set! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2022, 08:16:10 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on April 30, 2022, 07:26:54 PM

10/10 ... would listen.

That's the problem though. It'd just be 10 of us...but it'd be ALL 10 of us! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on May 01, 2022, 06:47:50 AM: Quote from: Deathless on April 29, 2022, 07:17:53 AM
Michael Schenker did a Rainbow tribute song with Michael Kiske singing and the Rainbow rising rhythm section of Bob Daisley and Bob Rondinelli. I haven't checked out as much MSG lately but may need to check this upcoming album out...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tW4UqC16nvM

Wrong thread. This belongs in the soft cock thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 01, 2022, 07:28:33 AM: Quote from: Podaar on May 01, 2022, 06:47:50 AM
Quote from: Deathless on April 29, 2022, 07:17:53 AM
Michael Schenker did a Rainbow tribute song with Michael Kiske singing and the Rainbow rising rhythm section of Bob Daisley and Bob Rondinelli. I haven't checked out as much MSG lately but may need to check this upcoming album out...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tW4UqC16nvM

Wrong thread. This belongs in the soft cock thread.

Stop trolling or I’m going back to the golf thread to blow you guys up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on May 01, 2022, 12:33:05 PM: Quote from: Deathless on April 29, 2022, 07:17:53 AM
Michael Schenker did a Rainbow tribute song with Michael Kiske singing and the Rainbow rising rhythm section of Bob Daisley and Bob Rondinelli. I haven't checked out as much MSG lately but may need to check this upcoming album out...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tW4UqC16nvM

They totally nailed this one, sounds more Rainbow than Rainbow and MS does a great Richie Blackmore impression.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 01, 2022, 05:20:50 PM: Riot V played a show in Houston last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXEEKgAkKDU

Todd Michael Hall :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2022, 05:41:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 01, 2022, 05:20:50 PM
Riot V played a show in Houston last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXEEKgAkKDU

Todd Michael Hall :hefdaddy

:metal

I notice Flyntz has ended up in another one of those endless Frontiers project bands

I got a laugh this morning out of this Facebook post from Blabbermouth and comment from our friends in Teramaze :lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/wvYx1q34/evans.png)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 04, 2022, 05:53:39 PM: :rollin

Brent, what project is Flyntz involved with?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2022, 06:03:36 PM: Cleanbreak

https://youtu.be/k0UOjYvW7MI

Certainly not the worst thing on Frontiers
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 04, 2022, 06:18:08 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 04, 2022, 06:03:36 PM
Cleanbreak

https://youtu.be/k0UOjYvW7MI

Certainly not the worst thing on Frontiers

Janick on bass?

That's not bad. Is this out? *checks Spotify* Nope, just the single.

I'm happy to see Mike Flyntz appear out of nowhere on this. Looking forward to this.

Flyntz crushes that solo.
The drummer is a fucking poser though. Drumsticks on an airplane? GTFO! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 04, 2022, 06:20:49 PM: It's Perry Richardson (Firehouse/Stryper) on bass and the poser is Robert Sweet from Stryper. :lol Stryper seem to have been added to Frontiers roster of "house" players.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 04, 2022, 06:42:32 PM: That's cool. Hopefully Flyntz balls this up a bit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2022, 07:36:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 04, 2022, 06:03:36 PM
Cleanbreak

https://youtu.be/k0UOjYvW7MI

Certainly not the worst thing on Frontiers

I'll check this later. Flyntz is a really solid guitarist.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 04, 2022, 07:47:49 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 04, 2022, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 04, 2022, 06:03:36 PM
Cleanbreak

https://youtu.be/k0UOjYvW7MI

Certainly not the worst thing on Frontiers

I'll check this later. Flyntz is a really solid guitarist.

I'm a big fan, so this project will get some extra rope from me, but this track was more than solid enough.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2022, 06:01:03 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 04, 2022, 06:03:36 PM
Cleanbreak

https://youtu.be/k0UOjYvW7MI

Certainly not the worst thing on Frontiers

This actually reminds me of when Frontiers were putting out solid melodic rock. Good song.

Not gonna lie, for some reason, I thought Flyntz was the long hired guitarist in Riot. This guy who is actually Mike Flyntz can rip it up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 05, 2022, 07:03:05 PM: Not that Bon Jovi is hard rock, but I don't know where else to put it, but...

I was seeing mentions of him totally sucking and even lip synching on his current tour. I've watched a few vids and he is fucking dreadful.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 05, 2022, 09:52:48 PM: Bon Jovi had been terrible for ages but yeah - some of the 2021-2022 footage is beyond horrendous. There has to be something wrong with him , whether it be some sort of degenerative illness or (more likely) deafness but he is so far off in terms of pitch/timing it's embarrassing to watch.

In recent weeks apparently he has suddenly improved quite a bit (not saying much) and is turning his back on the audience for most of the show and won't take the mic away from his mouth. Draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2022, 11:05:23 PM: Some simply don't know when to quit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 06, 2022, 05:57:02 AM: Quote from: wolfking on May 05, 2022, 06:01:03 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 04, 2022, 06:03:36 PM
Cleanbreak

https://youtu.be/k0UOjYvW7MI

Certainly not the worst thing on Frontiers

This actually reminds me of when Frontiers were putting out solid melodic rock. Good song.

Just spun this today. Yeah, this was most excellent. Spot on comment, Kade. Reminded me of Shaft of Steel. Will definitely be looking for this when it's fully released.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2022, 06:46:05 AM: Shaft of steel?? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 06, 2022, 07:55:16 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 06, 2022, 06:46:05 AM
Shaft of steel?? :lol

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

:zydarscouch:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 06, 2022, 07:56:56 AM: Anxiously awaiting Tim's reaction to Shaft of Steel .........imagining how some of Tim's favourite adjectives for albums might work in with that :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 06, 2022, 08:39:28 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 06, 2022, 07:56:56 AM
Anxiously awaiting Tim's reaction to Shaft of Steel .........imagining how some of Tim's favourite adjectives for albums might work in with that :lol

It's rock hard.

I mean ..... it rock's hard.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2022, 03:07:05 PM: When Chad sent them to me, I couldn't get over the name. I still can't. Like seriously, WTF?! If they were a Steel Panther kind of band fair enough but what he sent me was good, melodic yet wholesome melodic rock. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2022, 03:27:59 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 06, 2022, 07:56:56 AM
Anxiously awaiting Tim's reaction to Shaft of Steel .........imagining how some of Tim's favourite adjectives for albums might work in with that :lol

:lol

First of all, WTF kind of name is Shaft Of Steel? Was Schlong Of Iron taken?

And I was expecting some sort of Manowar style music, but this is limp as fuck.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2022, 03:33:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 06, 2022, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 06, 2022, 07:56:56 AM
Anxiously awaiting Tim's reaction to Shaft of Steel .........imagining how some of Tim's favourite adjectives for albums might work in with that :lol

:lol

First of all, WTF kind of name is Shaft Of Steel? Was Schlong Of Iron taken?

And I was expecting some sort of Manowar style music, but this is limp as fuck.

:lol How appropriate.

Also, I think Schlong of Iron is a new Rob Halford side project.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2022, 03:52:03 PM: Well, I'd much rather take Rob Halford's Schlong Of Iron anyday.

There you go guys. Have at it. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2022, 04:04:38 PM: (https://media.giphy.com/media/Ls6ahtmYHU760/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on May 06, 2022, 07:46:25 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2022, 09:52:48 PM
Bon Jovi had been terrible for ages but yeah - some of the 2021-2022 footage is beyond horrendous. There has to be something wrong with him , whether it be some sort of degenerative illness or (more likely) deafness but he is so far off in terms of pitch/timing it's embarrassing to watch.

In recent weeks apparently he has suddenly improved quite a bit (not saying much) and is turning his back on the audience for most of the show and won't take the mic away from his mouth. Draw your own conclusions.

Yeah, I was watching some videos too, and been reading about what's going on...unfortunately, it really is pretty terrible and not just in the sense of him not being able to reach certain notes anymore (which has been true for a while and not unusual, of course) but, as you say, truly having trouble singing anything in the correct pitch. It does make you think something is going on, but who knows. It's sad to watch, considering he, and the band, have always put on a solid and entertaining show over the years...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2022, 08:01:51 PM: Quote from: nick_z on May 06, 2022, 07:46:25 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on May 05, 2022, 09:52:48 PM
Bon Jovi had been terrible for ages but yeah - some of the 2021-2022 footage is beyond horrendous. There has to be something wrong with him , whether it be some sort of degenerative illness or (more likely) deafness but he is so far off in terms of pitch/timing it's embarrassing to watch.

In recent weeks apparently he has suddenly improved quite a bit (not saying much) and is turning his back on the audience for most of the show and won't take the mic away from his mouth. Draw your own conclusions.

Yeah, I was watching some videos too, and been reading about what's going on...unfortunately, it really is pretty terrible and not just in the sense of him not being able to reach certain notes anymore (which has been true for a while and not unusual, of course) but, as you say, truly having trouble singing anything in the correct pitch. It does make you think something is going on, but who knows. It's sad to watch, considering he, and the band, have always put on a solid and entertaining show over the years...

A recent performance actually popped in my Youtube feed as I was scrolling last night so I watched it. Fuck, has something happened to him? It's like he's lost a part of his brain or something. His singing was bad and since it was Living on A Prayer he didn't much in the back half of the song. But it wasn't only that, he was behind the music all the time too. One of the comments even said it was in C#M when the original is in EM, and he still wasn't even close. That's 1 and half steps down from standard tuning.

To give people an idea, Sabbath usually always play the old songs from standard tuning but live will be in Eb so just a half step down, to give a bit more heaviness. Also, I believe the Images and Words 2017 concert in half step down in Eb too. Lots of bands will tune down half a step to help the singers ('Arry should have done this for Blaze) but 1 and a half steps is a major detune.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2022, 08:05:34 PM: The intro to Wanted Dead Or Alive was detuned so much, it wasn't even recognizable. And I don't have an ear for that kind of thing either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2022, 08:06:48 PM: From 1984-1993, I saw Bon Jovi 7 or 8 times. And they were GREAT live.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2022, 08:07:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 06, 2022, 08:05:34 PM
The intro to Wanted Dead Or Alive was detuned so much, it wasn't even recognizable. And I don't have an ear for that kind of thing either.

Yeah wow. I might check out some more out of curiosity as one of the comments on the vid I watched said it was a much better performance than some of the other shows. WTF?! I thought! :omg:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2022, 08:08:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 06, 2022, 08:06:48 PM
From 1984-1993, I saw Bon Jovi 7 or 8 times. And they were GREAT live.

Never a fan as you know but they seemed to have the chops live and put on a good show for sure. That's why when you see it get this bad, someone has to say something and tell him it's over. I know we rag on James but fuck you'd hope he'd have the smarts to quit if he ever got this fucking bad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 06, 2022, 08:09:50 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 06, 2022, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 06, 2022, 08:05:34 PM
The intro to Wanted Dead Or Alive was detuned so much, it wasn't even recognizable. And I don't have an ear for that kind of thing either.

Yeah wow. I might check out some more out of curiosity as one of the comments on the vid I watched said it was a much better performance than some of the other shows. WTF?! I thought! :omg:

And tickets to these shows aren't cheap I bet.

Yeah, he's a train wreck. And then listen to Kiske sing Skyfall the other night.....
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 07, 2022, 05:12:15 PM: JBJ is awful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBryTebK2Og

Brent, this dude is from Melbourne. Do you know who he is?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2022, 05:13:17 PM: I should check out that Heavy Metal Parking lot thing, never have.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 07, 2022, 05:18:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 07, 2022, 05:13:17 PM
I should check out that Heavy Metal Parking lot thing, never have.

https://youtu.be/QBryTebK2Og

It's really only the first half of this. Guy walking around the parking lot while people are tailgating before a Priest show on 5/31/86 in Maryland. I saw them 5 days later..
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2022, 05:25:19 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 07, 2022, 05:18:19 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 07, 2022, 05:13:17 PM
I should check out that Heavy Metal Parking lot thing, never have.

https://youtu.be/QBryTebK2Og

It's really only the first half of this. Guy walking around the parking lot while people are tailgating before a Priest show on 5/31/86 in Maryland. I saw them 5 days later..

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 07, 2022, 06:48:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 07, 2022, 05:12:15 PM
JBJ is awful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBryTebK2Og

Brent, this dude is from Melbourne. Do you know who he is?

Which dude is that? The 20 yo guy smooching his 13yo girlfriend ? He's not from down my way :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 07, 2022, 06:51:21 PM: Dammit, wrong video. :lol

This one!
https://youtu.be/2xPhkP_lF-g?t=482
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 07, 2022, 06:54:45 PM: His facial structure closely resembles the mightly DLR but no...................don't believe I have come across him. I did get a laugh at his bewildered look as he listened to JBJ - exactly how I have felt watching recent Bon Jovi vids .

I checked out his history and it seems his performing history is more on the musical theatre side. The only thing related to musical theatre that I have ever attended is Dream Theater :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2022, 07:28:41 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 07, 2022, 06:54:45 PM
His facial structure closely resembles the mightly DLR but no...................don't believe I have come across him. I did get a laugh at his bewildered look as he listened to JBJ - exactly how I have felt watching recent Bon Jovi vids .

I checked out his history and it seems his performing history is more on the musical theatre side. The only thing related to musical theatre that I have ever attended is Dream Theater :lol

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xSM46ernAUN3y/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2022, 12:09:05 PM: They should just let Phil X sing. It’s embarrassing. And they charge stupid money too.

On the bright side, I’m off to see Geoff Tate on his much delayed Rage For Order/Empire show on Friday. Should be a good night.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2022, 12:31:31 PM: Regarding JBJ, Justin Hawkins of the Darkness suggests it might be plastic surgery/Botox related. Could be?

https://youtu.be/cv7IMEELY_Q
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 09, 2022, 06:26:21 PM: If anyone's interested a 35-40 min special on Bon Scott ("Australian Story") aired on Aussie TV last night with an intro by Brian Johnson + many first time interviews etc...with his family and so on. Not sure how long it'll be up for but it can be viewed here , assuming there's no geo-block outside Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/austory/on-the-brink-the-legend-of-bon-scott/13868820
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 09, 2022, 07:42:38 PM: Brent, just watched the whole thing. Thank you for the link!

A phenomenal watch. The footage of Fraternity is outstanding. And it was cool to learn that AC/DC hung out with the Geordie guys in London.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2022, 05:21:35 PM: Another link for you Tim..........good chance you've seen it (it's old) but thought I would post anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWzVkitDKFE

If that's not of interest then I'm sure this will be :lol

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd1Sn1igFNV/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 21, 2022, 05:34:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2022, 05:21:35 PM
Another link for you Tim..........good chance you've seen it (it's old) but thought I would post anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWzVkitDKFE

So...I actually have seen that before. They have a great relationship.

Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2022, 05:21:35 PM
If that's not of interest then I'm sure this will be :lol

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd1Sn1igFNV/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again

Holy shit that's awesome. I never knew how to look like a dork before! :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2022, 05:36:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2022, 05:34:19 PM

Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2022, 05:21:35 PM
If that's not of interest then I'm sure this will be :lol

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd1Sn1igFNV/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again

Holy shit that's awesome. I never knew how to look like a dork before! :lol

I love the way he says "it's on the house" ....what a generous man :rollin
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Post by: TAC on May 21, 2022, 05:37:26 PM: That guy makes Winger look cool. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2022, 06:23:13 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2022, 05:21:35 PM

If that's not of interest then I'm sure this will be :lol

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd1Sn1igFNV/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again

I just found the reason why I'm still alive. It's the Brett Michaels diamond fold. And he even showed me for free. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 26, 2022, 09:47:41 AM: Holy shit! Ozzy/Randy footage!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHP6ROtnqeI

Chilling!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2022, 03:25:20 AM: I’m halfway through the new Schenker album and is very good. Enjoying this a lot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 01, 2022, 06:48:22 AM: Another classic Vince Neil subtitle video - some of the comments underneath gave me a laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTJ8OWcFmCk
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 01, 2022, 09:29:29 AM: True... some of those comments were gold. But I'm thinking the music was dubbed. There were a lot of shots where the drum audio and video did not match at all - particularly coming out of the solo. I wonder if the band really does sound decent, or if they're all just a trainwreck.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 01, 2022, 11:16:01 AM: Who would pay money for that?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Setlist Scotty on June 01, 2022, 11:39:53 AM: Quote from: TAC on May 26, 2022, 09:47:41 AM
Holy shit! Ozzy/Randy footage!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHP6ROtnqeI

Chilling!
Thanks for sharing. At about 6:04 into the video, you see history being made: the moment the photo that ended up being the cover for the Randy Rhoads Tribute album was taken!
https://youtu.be/aHP6ROtnqeI?t=364

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribute_(Ozzy_Osbourne_album)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 01, 2022, 04:18:14 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 01, 2022, 09:29:29 AM
True... some of those comments were gold. But I'm thinking the music was dubbed. There were a lot of shots where the drum audio and video did not match at all - particularly coming out of the solo. I wonder if the band really does sound decent, or if they're all just a trainwreck.

Yeah.........the music did sound touched up at the very least.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 03, 2022, 06:20:40 PM: Jeez, I didn't realize all of these album covers were done by the same guy..

https://bravewords.com/news/kiss-rainbow-manowar-artist-ken-kelly-dead-at-76
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2022, 02:28:42 PM: Tommy is at it again!

https://bravewords.com/news/sabaton-guitarist-tommy-johansson-shares-solo-performance-of-helloween-classic-eagle-fly-free-video

:metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 04, 2022, 04:25:31 PM: New Stratovarius pretty good

https://youtu.be/deL5dM9csNc
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2022, 05:36:47 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 04, 2022, 04:25:31 PM
New Stratovarius pretty good

https://youtu.be/deL5dM9csNc

Yeah, it's decent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2022, 06:42:42 PM: I thought it was awful. The chorus sounded like video game music.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2022, 07:40:18 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 04, 2022, 06:42:42 PM
I thought it was awful. The chorus sounded like video game music.

:lol Found that funny for some reason.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 05, 2022, 04:46:15 PM: Alec John Such RIP. Dead at 70.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2022, 07:30:46 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2022, 04:46:15 PM
Alec John Such RIP. Dead at 70.

Not sure who this is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 05, 2022, 07:32:19 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2022, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 05, 2022, 04:46:15 PM
Alec John Such RIP. Dead at 70.

Not sure who this is.

Original Bon Jovi bass player...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2022, 07:39:23 PM: Oh, that sucks. :'(
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2022, 09:41:08 PM: Sad to hear that. He seems to have been a fairly silent member of the band in terms of writing etc......but , coincidence or not , his departure coincided with them becoming shite.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: The Realm on June 05, 2022, 10:00:14 PM: Very sad to hear Alex has passed away. He was always in the background but did a solid job on the bass.

On a related topic, anyone heard Jon Bon Jovi 'sing' lately? He has completely lost the ability to correctly hold a note, no idea what is going on, seems to be some serious issue with his technique apart from anything else....
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2022, 10:08:37 PM: Yeah we discussed Bon Jovi's vocals not long ago somewhere, maybe here. Yeah, he's completely fucked.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2022, 10:14:30 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 05, 2022, 10:08:37 PM
Yeah we discussed Bon Jovi's vocals not long ago somewhere, maybe here. Yeah, he's completely fucked.
.

previous page
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2022, 10:23:00 PM: :lol Well there you go. That shows less about me and more about the lack of good hard rock getting released lately.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: The Realm on June 05, 2022, 11:05:01 PM: Apologies, I missed the previous Bon Jovi singing discussion. As someone who does a bit of singing, I do find this deterioration fascinating. The video where he actually stops singing (the very detuned) Wanted Dead or Alive and starts again is just so bad! He is kind of whispering and then making all kind of facial contortions to get a sound out, just not good in any way..
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Post by: DoctorAction on June 06, 2022, 12:20:31 AM: Sorry to hear about Alec. They were the band that got me into rock in the first place... You Give A Love Bad Name was the first rock record I bought.

In general classic rock terms, Spidergawd VI is still pumping me up on a regular basis. Fantastic album.

https://open.spotify.com/album/70EGqcOMAJCLlVfKXSYZtT?si=eCSP9-OcTC-Uvoijwt5ygg&utm_source=copy-link

And one other I recently discovered - that isn't quite classic rock/metal but has a lot of retro vibe and metal touches - reminds me of a heavy BÖC in places - is Kaleidobolt:

https://open.spotify.com/album/2nHH8FJgi3ZiBWCgPHCAzK?si=5GUThl86TmKz8nryAwAIEg&utm_source=copy-link
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2022, 12:22:01 AM: Quote from: The Realm on June 05, 2022, 11:05:01 PM
Apologies, I missed the previous Bon Jovi singing discussion. As someone who does a bit of singing, I do find this deterioration fascinating. The video where he actually stops singing (the very detuned) Wanted Dead or Alive and starts again is just so bad! He is kind of whispering and then making all kind of facial contortions to get a sound out, just not good in any way..

Oh wow, haven't seen this one. Got a link?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: The Realm on June 06, 2022, 12:59:18 AM: Sorry, at work and can't access youtube etc but if you search on youtube for: Bon Jovi Wanted Dead or Alive Nashville 4.30.22. Check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2022, 05:10:04 AM: Quote from: The Realm on June 06, 2022, 12:59:18 AM
Sorry, at work and can't access youtube etc but if you search on youtube for: Bon Jovi Wanted Dead or Alive Nashville 4.30.22. Check it out.

Lol, he needed to detune lower. It's painful watching him try and sing that.

In the video description it says best show of the tour. Lol, fuck me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on June 06, 2022, 07:30:41 AM: Have you all heard of the band 21 Guns? Formed by Scott Gorham (Thin Lizzy, etc) in the early 90's. Their first album is really, really good. I've been listening to it this morning and it's been an enjoyable album thus far. Going to check out the others later today.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/811UYjkamkL._SL1087_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 06, 2022, 09:18:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 06, 2022, 05:10:04 AM
Quote from: The Realm on June 06, 2022, 12:59:18 AM
Sorry, at work and can't access youtube etc but if you search on youtube for: Bon Jovi Wanted Dead or Alive Nashville 4.30.22. Check it out.

Lol, he needed to detune lower. It's painful watching him try and sing that.

In the video description it says best show of the tour. Lol, fuck me.

This is as bad as it gets. And the beginning of that song isn't that hard to sing. Seems like he can't sing at all anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: The Realm on June 06, 2022, 04:18:03 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 06, 2022, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 06, 2022, 05:10:04 AM
Quote from: The Realm on June 06, 2022, 12:59:18 AM
Sorry, at work and can't access youtube etc but if you search on youtube for: Bon Jovi Wanted Dead or Alive Nashville 4.30.22. Check it out.

Lol, he needed to detune lower. It's painful watching him try and sing that.

In the video description it says best show of the tour. Lol, fuck me.

This is as bad as it gets. And the beginning of that song isn't that hard to sing. Seems like he can't sing at all anymore.

Yeah, it is very sad really. The way he starts off with that whisper type vocal suggests he has absolute zero confidence of getting a correct sound out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2022, 04:19:45 PM: Quote from: The Realm on June 06, 2022, 04:18:03 PM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on June 06, 2022, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 06, 2022, 05:10:04 AM
Quote from: The Realm on June 06, 2022, 12:59:18 AM
Sorry, at work and can't access youtube etc but if you search on youtube for: Bon Jovi Wanted Dead or Alive Nashville 4.30.22. Check it out.

Lol, he needed to detune lower. It's painful watching him try and sing that.

In the video description it says best show of the tour. Lol, fuck me.

This is as bad as it gets. And the beginning of that song isn't that hard to sing. Seems like he can't sing at all anymore.

Yeah, it is very sad really. The way he starts off with that whisper type vocal suggests he has absolute zero confidence of getting a correct sound out.

And the way he has to contort his face for the 'only the names will change,' line which is just horrid and hard to watch, especially with what comes out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 06, 2022, 04:30:31 PM: I've watched a number of videos from this tour, and he is a train wreck. It's unbeleivable.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: The Realm on June 06, 2022, 05:56:34 PM: That face contortion is just unbearable. I really can't watch it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 06, 2022, 05:59:46 PM: I've never actually seen anyone have a stroke before.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2022, 06:02:27 PM: Quote from: The Realm on June 06, 2022, 05:56:34 PM
That face contortion is just unbearable. I really can't watch it.

:lol I know hey, like a car crash.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2022, 06:38:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 06, 2022, 05:59:46 PM
I've never actually seen anyone have a stroke before.

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 07, 2022, 01:28:17 PM: https://youtu.be/rXNUhyaPWU0?t=76

More like You Give Singing A Bad Name..
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 07, 2022, 02:59:04 PM: Ok guys, so here's a who'd you rather (listen to) for 2022 .... Vince Neil, or Jon Bon Jovi.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 07, 2022, 03:00:03 PM: At least Vince Neil will make me laugh.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 07, 2022, 03:05:49 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2022, 03:00:03 PM
At least Vince Neil will make me laugh.

The YT comments are where the real humour is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 07, 2022, 03:07:54 PM: I can't believe people actually bought tickets to this Bon Jovi tour. That place was packed. Those tickest couldn't have been cheap.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2022, 05:13:04 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2022, 03:07:54 PM
I can't believe people actually bought tickets to this Bon Jovi tour. That place was packed. Those tickest couldn't have been cheap.

I paid $10 for a "stadium filler" offer to see Bon Jovi 5 or 6 years ago and wanted my money back afterwards :lol , so it's not as if this had just happened all of sudden. He has got away with similar for a very long time , but it's finally reached the point where his teflon skin isn't enough to stop the criticism. I seriously think half any given crowd is tone deaf and hardly notice....and he could tour for another 10 years and his female fans wouldn't give a shit. . :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2022, 05:27:04 PM: The thing is, he's not even moving about the stage gracefully. He looks like he's in pain. He's not that old.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 07, 2022, 05:36:08 PM: Yeah, I mean, this seems to be much worse than just his voice being shot...It's definitely true that he's been struggling vocally for a while now, but there seems to be something more serious going on.

Purely based on these videos, perhaps the band shouldn't be touring? I feel for him, but this seems to a point where it's not 100% fair to the paying fans...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2022, 05:41:13 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2022, 01:28:17 PM
https://youtu.be/rXNUhyaPWU0?t=76

More like You Give Singing A Bad Name..

His timing also is just atrocious. He's definitely had a stroke or something, surely.

Not sure who his guitarist is now but he's pretty solid at least.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2022, 05:44:07 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 07, 2022, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2022, 03:07:54 PM
I can't believe people actually bought tickets to this Bon Jovi tour. That place was packed. Those tickest couldn't have been cheap.

I paid $10 for a "stadium filler" offer to see Bon Jovi 5 or 6 years ago and wanted my money back afterwards :lol , so it's not as if this had just happened all of sudden. He has got away with similar for a very long time , but it's finally reached the point where his teflon skin isn't enough to stop the criticism. I seriously think half any given crowd is tone deaf and hardly notice....and he could tour for another 10 years and his female fans wouldn't give a shit. . :biggrin:

$10. :lol You were right to want your money back.

I mean, I guess it wouldn't be as noticeable when you're there but it's incredible how packed it is and people still are enjoying it. You're right though, the female fans couldn't care less.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2022, 06:02:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 07, 2022, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2022, 01:28:17 PM
https://youtu.be/rXNUhyaPWU0?t=76

More like You Give Singing A Bad Name..

His timing also is just atrocious. He's definitely had a stroke or something, surely.

Not sure who his guitarist is now but he's pretty solid at least.

The guitarist is Phil X and he is better than solid.

Actually one of my few memories of that $10 concert is that the biggest crowd response was when Phil took over the mic and sang You Shook Me All Night Long :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2022, 06:05:52 PM: I meant solid.....not like.......what we call solid. :lol

EDIT: Ah, I see the guy you're referring to Brent. I was referring to the other fella that played the solo on that vid Tim posted. Haven't seen this Phil guy play I don't think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 07, 2022, 06:33:51 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 07, 2022, 06:02:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 07, 2022, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2022, 01:28:17 PM
https://youtu.be/rXNUhyaPWU0?t=76

More like You Give Singing A Bad Name..

His timing also is just atrocious. He's definitely had a stroke or something, surely.

Not sure who his guitarist is now but he's pretty solid at least.

The guitarist is Phil X and he is better than solid.

Actually one of my few memories of that $10 concert is that the biggest crowd response was when Phil took over the mic and sang You Shook Me All Night Long :lol

So...not even a Bon Jovi song? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2022, 06:53:34 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2022, 06:33:51 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on June 07, 2022, 06:02:34 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 07, 2022, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2022, 01:28:17 PM
https://youtu.be/rXNUhyaPWU0?t=76

More like You Give Singing A Bad Name..

His timing also is just atrocious. He's definitely had a stroke or something, surely.

Not sure who his guitarist is now but he's pretty solid at least.

The guitarist is Phil X and he is better than solid.

Actually one of my few memories of that $10 concert is that the biggest crowd response was when Phil took over the mic and sang You Shook Me All Night Long :lol

So...not even a Bon Jovi song? :lol

Do you blame him? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2022, 06:18:46 AM: Quote from: Deathless on June 06, 2022, 07:30:41 AM
Have you all heard of the band 21 Guns? Formed by Scott Gorham (Thin Lizzy, etc) in the early 90's. Their first album is really, really good. I've been listening to it this morning and it's been an enjoyable album thus far. Going to check out the others later today.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/811UYjkamkL._SL1087_.jpg)

I forgot to respond to this but yeah..........at least a couple of us would've owned this since around the time of release.

I think These Eyes is one of the hugest sounding melodic rock ballads of all time and there's probably another few songs I really liked. But also more than a few fillers I wasn't rapt in. But it's got a hell of a production on it and it's a shame that Tom La Verdi didn't do more . One of those albums that was released into the teeth of the grunge headwind and it's a bit of a "cult classic" to some. Plenty of great melodic rock/metal albums released in 92 that were dropped like a hot potato by their record labels.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 08, 2022, 11:34:30 AM: ooohhh... we're getting very close to 400 pages. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2022, 11:43:37 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 07, 2022, 06:05:52 PM
I meant solid.....not like.......what we call solid. :lol

EDIT: Ah, I see the guy you're referring to Brent. I was referring to the other fella that played the solo on that vid Tim posted. Haven't seen this Phil guy play I don't think.

He does a tone perfect EVH impression that is worth seeing. He can sing too. Too good for Bon Jovi these days (see what I did there ?😁😁)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2022, 06:36:17 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 08, 2022, 06:18:46 AM
Quote from: Deathless on June 06, 2022, 07:30:41 AM
Have you all heard of the band 21 Guns? Formed by Scott Gorham (Thin Lizzy, etc) in the early 90's. Their first album is really, really good. I've been listening to it this morning and it's been an enjoyable album thus far. Going to check out the others later today.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/811UYjkamkL._SL1087_.jpg)

I forgot to respond to this but yeah..........at least a couple of us would've owned this since around the time of release.

I think These Eyes is one of the hugest sounding melodic rock ballads of all time and there's probably another few songs I really liked. But also more than a few fillers I wasn't rapt in. But it's got a hell of a production on it and it's a shame that Tom La Verdi didn't do more . One of those albums that was released into the teeth of the grunge headwind and it's a bit of a "cult classic" to some. Plenty of great melodic rock/metal albums released in 92 that were dropped like a hot potato by their record labels.

I am also just getting to this. I've never owned this, but I've sampled it a few times over the years. It was great to see Gorham in a project, but honestly, this is a nothing album. It is just so run of the mill.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2022, 07:08:45 PM: Not a hard pimp by any means, but I've been digging this album:

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81-NjSQh3lL._SS500_.jpg)

I think the number one thing on my wishlist each week on New Music Fridays is to simply find a nice hard rock/metal album. This doesn't reinvent the wheel or anything but I've spun it 4 or 5 times in the last couple of weeks and have been enjoying it very much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:16:48 PM: Let's get this badboy up to 400 pages
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2022, 04:21:07 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:16:48 PM
Let's get this badboy up to 400 pages

Where you been, man?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 04:21:16 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:16:48 PM
Let's get this badboy up to 400 pages

Holy fuck!! Jason is back!!!?!?!?!!?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/yoJC2NjczmzoJl80NO/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:22:06 PM: I'm back baby, I'm back
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2022, 04:22:59 PM: (https://media1.giphy.com/media/12TGsewzFyNuOQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 04:23:26 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:22:06 PM
I'm back baby, I'm back

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2Fs9ivFB2exIKCA%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=65981f9bcba565c03635022cb2e35a48e303d391)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:23:38 PM: What's new with 70's/80's rock?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 16, 2022, 04:24:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 16, 2022, 04:21:07 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:16:48 PM
Let's get this badboy up to 400 pages

Where you been, man?

Fuck yes! We missed you man. You well?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:25:00 PM: I'm trying to be the 400th post............how many more until then?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:25:50 PM: Any Wildranger updates?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 04:25:58 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:23:38 PM
What's new with 70's/80's rock?

We've been waiting for you to come back and tell us brother?!

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VrXJt_EjZCQ/WZMfgudghSI/AAAAAAAAa7Y/oJAGvhl5UWQCeiJa9rfexfKE2yeg_65kACEwYBhgL/s320/static1.squarespace.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 04:26:32 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:25:50 PM
Any fkn Wildranger updates?

I think he got banned for his stupid threads?! Maybe, or he just disappeared I think lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:26:57 PM: Is this 400?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:27:14 PM: haha got it
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 16, 2022, 04:31:55 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:27:14 PM
haha got it

You’ve not missed much. Tim loves Winger now, Brent is replacing EVH for a tribute tour with Dave and Sammy and Kade is replacing Paul Stanley in KISS. Chad has become Sorceror Supreme so we haven’t seen him much.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2022, 04:32:45 PM: 400 pages!!

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:33:53 PM: Winger fkn rocks!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 04:39:13 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 16, 2022, 04:31:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:27:14 PM
haha got it

You’ve not missed much. Tim loves Winger now, Brent is replacing EVH for a tribute tour with Dave and Sammy and Kade is replacing Paul Stanley in KISS. Chad has become Sorceror Supreme so we haven’t seen him much.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/ukGm72ZLZvYfS/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:40:26 PM: Wolfster, this isn't the Robert Redford nod.......whats this shit?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 04:40:34 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:33:53 PM
Winger fkn rocks!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/gVoBC0SuaHStq/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2022, 04:42:11 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:33:53 PM
Winger fkn rocks!

(https://i.gifer.com/56mP.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:45:03 PM: Let's get to 500!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:48:54 PM: Where's the Chadster?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 05:00:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:48:54 PM
Where's the Chadster?

COVID thread mate. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 05:03:32 PM: I wear my Winnipeg Blue Bomber mask when I am forced to.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2022, 05:05:41 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 05:00:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:48:54 PM
Where's the Chadster?

COVID thread mate. ;D

:rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 05:12:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 05:03:32 PM
I wear my Winnipeg Blue Bomber mask when I am forced to.

That's it mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 05:14:13 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 05:03:32 PM
I wear my Winnipeg Blue Bomber mask when I am forced to.

That's it mate.

2 time in a row Grey Cup champs fyi
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 05:24:01 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 05:03:32 PM
I wear my Winnipeg Blue Bomber mask when I am forced to.

That's it mate.

2 time in a row Grey Cup champs fyi

Nice.

Quote from: TAC on June 16, 2022, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 05:00:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:48:54 PM
Where's the Chadster?

COVID thread mate. ;D

:rollin :rollin :rollin

What did I say? :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 05:27:16 PM: The Wolfster and Robert always get an excuse
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 16, 2022, 06:29:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 05:00:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:48:54 PM
Where's the Chadster?

COVID thread mate. ;D

Nah, I was on the road all afternoon. But this is for you anyway

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/cb/4b/b2cb4b128f536220bde8ad6c698d6571.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 16, 2022, 06:31:46 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 16, 2022, 04:31:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:27:14 PM
haha got it

You’ve not missed much. Tim loves Winger now, Brent is replacing EVH for a tribute tour with Dave and Sammy and Kade is replacing Paul Stanley in KISS. Chad has become Sorceror Supreme so we haven’t seen him much.

Oh, and Tim still doesn't put carts in the corral. Despite me seeing this at Costco earlier today.

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/shopping-cart-return-station-is-seen-outside-a-costco-wholesale-corp-picture-id964530988?s=2048x2048)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 06:42:57 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 16, 2022, 06:29:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 05:00:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 04:48:54 PM
Where's the Chadster?

COVID thread mate. ;D

Nah, I was on the road all afternoon. But this is for you anyway

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/cb/4b/b2cb4b128f536220bde8ad6c698d6571.gif)

Outstanding!! Damn, how hot is Jessica Beil!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2022, 06:45:43 PM: Chad used that in another thread, and I didn't even know that was her.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 07:23:11 PM: No matter what happens.............I'm always interested in hammers
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 07:25:16 PM: I know Wolf loves hammers too
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2022, 07:26:35 PM: Who doesn't love hammers?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 07:29:18 PM: I've spent the last eight months focusing on hammers
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 16, 2022, 07:33:21 PM: You you've not been DTFing because ....you got a girlfriend..or married? or a boob job? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 07:42:14 PM: honestly lets rock!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 16, 2022, 08:02:00 PM: good to see you Jay. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2022, 09:58:25 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 16, 2022, 07:42:14 PM
honestly lets rock!

You all heard the man!

NP: (as I turn the car ignition of in the work carpark) Saxon - Sniper :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 17, 2022, 04:18:39 AM: lol shopping carts
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 17, 2022, 07:29:16 AM: New act/song with Ray Adler on lead vox. I found it fairly enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it5fJwCB4-E&t=1s
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on June 17, 2022, 07:35:45 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 17, 2022, 07:29:16 AM
New act/song with Ray Adler on lead vox. I found it fairly enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it5fJwCB4-E&t=1s

I enjoyed it too. It's funny, the description of the band on their youtube page is "More straightforward hard-rock" while the band's website says "Joined by Philip Bynoe (Warlord, Steve Vai, Nuno Bettencourt) on bass, Joop Wolters (Steve Walsh, Simon Phillips) on guitar and Vivien Lalu on keys the band have a melodic, progressive and deep sound, bringing to mind the classic era of Fates Warning albums like "Parallels" and "Pleasant Shade Of Grey" while recalling the hooks and melodies of Journey."

I definitely get a bit of a prog vibe, but that may just be because of Zonder and Adler. Looking forward to the full album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 17, 2022, 03:21:48 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 17, 2022, 07:29:16 AM
New act/song with Ray Adler on lead vox. I found it fairly enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it5fJwCB4-E&t=1s

solid
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 18, 2022, 05:35:05 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 17, 2022, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 17, 2022, 07:29:16 AM
New act/song with Ray Adler on lead vox. I found it fairly enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it5fJwCB4-E&t=1s

solid

Indeed!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 18, 2022, 04:08:49 PM: Van Halen is the Best!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on June 19, 2022, 05:21:06 AM: Wow Poison sounding really good on the Stadium 2022 tour, complete with guitar and drum solo's.
https://youtu.be/rqrA1_LTKhM
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on June 19, 2022, 06:48:46 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBhBc1ktqPM

Who needs Shakespeare or Neil Peart when Steel Panther graces us with lyrics like these:

She's my handicapped slut
Her computer does the talkin'!
(She's my) She's my handicapped slut
It's like fucking Stephen Hawking!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on June 21, 2022, 10:46:44 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on June 19, 2022, 05:21:06 AM
Wow Poison sounding really good on the Stadium 2022 tour, complete with guitar and drum solo's.
https://youtu.be/rqrA1_LTKhM

Good to hear, I won't watch to not spoil me. Ill be seeing the show on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2022, 02:53:45 PM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on June 19, 2022, 06:48:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBhBc1ktqPM

Who needs Shakespeare or Neil Peart when Steel Panther graces us with lyrics like these:

She's my handicapped slut
Her computer does the talkin'!
(She's my) She's my handicapped slut
It's like fucking Stephen Hawking!

Sheer poetry.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2022, 02:59:23 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 18, 2022, 05:35:05 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 17, 2022, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 17, 2022, 07:29:16 AM
New act/song with Ray Adler on lead vox. I found it fairly enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it5fJwCB4-E&t=1s

solid

Indeed!

Sounds good.

And I can’t believe I missed the hammers 😱😳
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 23, 2022, 08:13:57 AM: Pretty classic sounding new Megadeth track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkJ5jJuraLQ
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 23, 2022, 01:11:30 PM: I think the last Megadeth album I listened to was End Game, which I thought was really good. Two of my all time favorite MD tracks are "Trust" and "Angry Again" (I actually really liked Last Action Hero lol)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2022, 04:52:47 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 23, 2022, 08:13:57 AM
Pretty classic sounding new Megadeth track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkJ5jJuraLQ

Really really good IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 23, 2022, 04:59:55 PM: Totally rips! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 23, 2022, 06:13:02 PM: Wow, that WAS good!!

What a great single. Peace Sells (the album) vibes in the verse vocals. And I love that they pretty much have a solo after each verse - they just go for it :biggrin: And those riffs! The one that closes the song too, brilliant.

Consider me very pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 23, 2022, 06:18:55 PM: Other that Th13rteen, Megadeth has been on a great run for a while now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 23, 2022, 06:21:01 PM: Not a big fan of Supercollider either, though...

I agree Dystopia was very good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 23, 2022, 06:22:17 PM: Quote from: nick_z on June 23, 2022, 06:21:01 PM
Not a big fan of Supercollider either, though...

Yeah, that too. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 23, 2022, 06:57:36 PM: Quote from: Magnus Karlsson's FB page
Music done for Free Fall IV. Now it’s time for lyrics and call some awesome singers!

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 23, 2022, 07:04:54 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 23, 2022, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: Magnus Karlsson's FB page
Music done for Free Fall IV. Now it’s time for lyrics and call some awesome singers!

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/qiPJ5kow5KOT6/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47zsvova3ejwbkaouz09ef4m7r1108gmx8qvhfi4xd&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

Always listen to the Chadster!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 23, 2022, 07:05:56 PM: except if the Chadster doesn't enjoy the classic rock/metal that I like of course
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 23, 2022, 07:22:07 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 23, 2022, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: Magnus Karlsson's FB page
Music done for Free Fall IV. Now it’s time for lyrics and call some awesome singers!

Whatever you do, do not call Ronnie Romero.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 23, 2022, 07:32:44 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 23, 2022, 07:22:07 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 23, 2022, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: Magnus Karlsson's FB page
Music done for Free Fall IV. Now it’s time for lyrics and call some awesome singers!

Whatever you do, do not call Ronnie Romero.

Meh, Chad won't call Ronnie Demaro, let's go with DIO
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 23, 2022, 07:33:16 PM: That'd be quite a feat.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 24, 2022, 07:54:26 AM: Plenty of cool new songs from classic bands the last few days............Megadeth, Stryper, Ozzy...........the only one that didn't grab me first up was Queensryche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i80jNj3G1QM : new Stryper and a real return to their classic sound IMHO. I expect this to grow on me - only reason I say that is on first listen the transitions in the song from verse->chorus->breakdown etc....were quite jarring but I think that might fade on further listens. Michael Sweet might be a tool but he's still got it :lol

I haven't bothered with Ozzy since Ozzmois really and the new track Patient No 9 reminds me of that era. Only thing that bugs me about that is that he got in a big name (Jeff Beck) to do a pretty underwhelming guitar solo when all it really needed was a Wylde solo to take it to the next level and he played rhythm ::)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 24, 2022, 11:59:26 AM: What is that pile of steaming shit Ozzy has just put out? Fuck me it’s bad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 24, 2022, 12:11:51 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 24, 2022, 11:59:26 AM
What is that pile of steaming shit Ozzy has just put out? Fuck me it’s bad.

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 24, 2022, 12:24:52 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 24, 2022, 11:59:26 AM
What is that pile of steaming shit Ozzy has just put out? Fuck me it’s bad.

His last "album" was, so why am I not surprised. Did Ozzy do anything noteworthy after No More Tears? I stopped following.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 24, 2022, 12:39:36 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 24, 2022, 12:24:52 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on June 24, 2022, 11:59:26 AM
What is that pile of steaming shit Ozzy has just put out? Fuck me it’s bad.

His last "album" was, so why am I not surprised. Did Ozzy do anything noteworthy after No More Tears? I stopped following.

Yes. Ozzmosis is awesome, but it stops there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 24, 2022, 12:40:54 PM: After Ozzmosis, there has been zero Ozzy stuff im interested in.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 24, 2022, 12:43:14 PM: I thought I heard a couple of Ozzy songs from his last album and it was all over processed and auto tuned. It was awful.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on June 24, 2022, 12:49:54 PM: I enjoyed ordinary man and I really like the new single....underwhelming beck solo aside.

I know I'm in the minority but I enjoy all of his albums lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2022, 04:07:57 PM: I didn't even bother with Ordinary Man.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on June 24, 2022, 05:59:08 PM: In more positive news, I enjoyed the new Stryper song. Sweet’s voice didn’t grate on me at all 😁
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2022, 07:01:42 PM: Yeah, this new Ozzy song is not very good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2022, 07:07:02 PM: I've spun that Megadeth song a couple more times too. I think it's fucking brilliant!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 24, 2022, 08:11:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 24, 2022, 07:01:42 PM
Yeah, this new Ozzy song is not very good.

Didn't think much of it at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 24, 2022, 08:40:44 PM: I just started listening to the new Ozzy song but I couldn't make it through the first verse. It's a fucking robot singing. It doesn't even sound human.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2022, 05:23:58 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 24, 2022, 08:40:44 PM
I just started listening to the new Ozzy song but I couldn't make it through the first verse. It's a fucking robot singing. It doesn't even sound human.

Yeah, I tried to give it the benefit of the doubt but he certainly doesn't sound very good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2022, 11:49:41 PM: Had a crack at Andy's Welcome Home solo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lefQ_rAg47c

First take!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 26, 2022, 01:32:28 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 25, 2022, 11:49:41 PM
Had a crack at Andy's Welcome Home solo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lefQ_rAg47c

First take!

Wolfamania
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on June 26, 2022, 04:05:45 AM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 28, 2022, 06:47:57 AM: Good to see Def Leppard maintaining the rage as they age

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Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 28, 2022, 07:11:16 AM: That’s fucking gross.
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Post by: Deathless on June 28, 2022, 07:30:40 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 28, 2022, 06:47:57 AM
Good to see Def Leppard maintaining the rage as they age

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Their licensing company has quite a roster of artists (https://www.epicrights.com/services/). Got to find a way to maximize that long-term revenue!
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Post by: cramx3 on June 28, 2022, 10:43:56 AM: While i kind of want to shit on that merchandise. The reality is Def Leppard has a large female fan base.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on June 28, 2022, 06:27:44 PM: I have an interview with Vinnie Appice next week. Let me know if you have any questions for him please!
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Post by: TAC on June 28, 2022, 07:07:53 PM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on June 28, 2022, 06:27:44 PM
I have an interview with Vinnie Appice next week. Let me know if you have any questions for him please!

After 1987's Dream Evil, Ronnie came back with an entire new band for 1990's Lock Up the Wolves. What was the circumstances regarding you (Vinnie) and the rest of the band no longer being part of Dio?
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Post by: TAC on June 29, 2022, 12:44:25 PM: Not wicked hard rock...but Ray Alder!

https://bravewords.com/news/figure-of-speechless-feat-past-present-members-of-dream-theater-guns-n-roses-whitesnake-to-release-debut-album-in-september-day-and-night-single-and-lyric-video-out-now
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on June 29, 2022, 02:39:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 28, 2022, 07:07:53 PM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on June 28, 2022, 06:27:44 PM
I have an interview with Vinnie Appice next week. Let me know if you have any questions for him please!

After 1987's Dream Evil, Ronnie came back with an entire new band for 1990's Lock Up the Wolves. What was the circumstances regarding you (Vinnie) and the rest of the band no longer being part of Dio?

I'll definitely ask about that.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 04:27:34 PM: I really don't think Rainbow gets the recognition they deserve. I would say either Rainbow or Saxon are the biggest hard rock bands that most people have never heard of. But with Rainbow, songs like Lady of the Lake, Man on the Silver Mountain, Stargazer, Stone Cold, Street of Dreams etc are all outstanding. Has anyone ever heard Rainbow or Saxon played on regular radio ?
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Post by: TAC on June 29, 2022, 04:46:30 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 04:27:34 PM
I really don't think Rainbow gets the recognition they deserve. I would say either Rainbow or Saxon are the biggest hard rock bands that most people have never heard of. But with Rainbow, songs like Lady of the Lake, Man on the Silver Mountain, Stargazer, Stone Cold, Street of Dreams etc are all outstanding. Has anyone ever heard Rainbow or Saxon played on regular radio ?

When I was a kid, I often heard Man On The Silver Mountain, Jealous Lover, Since You've Been Gone, Stone Cold, and Street Of Dreams.

Plus MTV used to play All Night Long, Death Alley Driver, and Can't Happen Here.

I think as far as longevity, Saxon is amazing.

I don't know if Rainbow is underrated. Ritchie Blackmore is one of the most popular guitarists of all time. I would also say that the Dio/Rainbow albums are the most inconsistent of the bunch.
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 04:58:25 PM: Rainbow is a band that I have a few of their albums but just never really were able to get a firm grasp on them. I don't know, flame me, but I've never seen what all the fuss is about with Blackmore, I honestly don't think he's a good as the credit he gets. Maybe I need more exposure to him.
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Post by: TAC on June 29, 2022, 05:00:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 04:58:25 PM
Rainbow is a band that I have a few of their albums but just never really were able to get a firm grasp on them. I don't know, flame me, but I've never seen what all the fuss is about with Blackmore, I honestly don't think he's a good as the credit he gets. Maybe I need more exposure to him.

Oh boy, now you did it. 10,000 word response, not to mention the countless parentheses, commas, and semi colons, from Stadler incoming.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 05:03:03 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 29, 2022, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 04:27:34 PM
I really don't think Rainbow gets the recognition they deserve. I would say either Rainbow or Saxon are the biggest hard rock bands that most people have never heard of. But with Rainbow, songs like Lady of the Lake, Man on the Silver Mountain, Stargazer, Stone Cold, Street of Dreams etc are all outstanding. Has anyone ever heard Rainbow or Saxon played on regular radio ?

When I was a kid, I often heard Man On The Silver Mountain, Jealous Lover, Since You've Been Gone, Stone Cold, and Street Of Dreams.

Plus MTV used to play All Night Long, Death Alley Driver, and Can't Happen Here.

I think as far as longevity, Saxon is amazing.

I don't know if Rainbow is underrated. Ritchie Blackmore is one of the most popular guitarists of all time. I would also say that the Dio/Rainbow albums are the most inconsistent of the bunch.

Definitely wouldn't say underrated, I just think unknown. Just never hear Rainbow or Saxon mentioned whatsoever besides the hardcores.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 05:03:35 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 29, 2022, 05:00:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 04:58:25 PM
Rainbow is a band that I have a few of their albums but just never really were able to get a firm grasp on them. I don't know, flame me, but I've never seen what all the fuss is about with Blackmore, I honestly don't think he's a good as the credit he gets. Maybe I need more exposure to him.

Oh boy, now you did it. 10,000 word response, not to mention the countless parentheses, commas, and semi colons, from Stadler incoming.

:lol
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 05:03:52 PM: Give me 3, maybe even 5 songs to check from him to change my mind. Rainbow, Deep Purple, whatever.

I mean, he's pretty great but never quite got the cult following. My age probably has a big part in that though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 05:26:43 PM: Unless Tim does a Rainbow or Deep Purple party listening discography festivus, I'm going to say no chance you will get into Ritchie lol
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Post by: TAC on June 29, 2022, 05:37:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 05:26:43 PM
Unless Tim does a Rainbow or Deep Purple party listening discography festivus, I'm going to say no chance you will get into Ritchie lol

Tim is not doing one of those. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 06:00:27 PM: haha, no kidding, what a bunch of work those listening rock festivus parties are.
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 07:34:04 PM: Maybe Bill can give me some songs then. I know a lot but just never really been wowed by him.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 08:23:47 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 07:34:04 PM
Maybe Bill can give me some songs then. I know a lot but just never really been wowed by him.

Probably move on Wolfster, I can give you Lady of the Lake, Perfect Strangers, Strargazer, Tarot Woman, Strombringer, Child in Time, BURN, Stone Cold, Street of Dreams..........safe to say you will say solid and be done.
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 09:22:14 PM: I'll go through and revisit some of these songs J for sure.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 09:42:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 09:22:14 PM
I'll go through and revisit some of these songs J for sure.

They are amazing hard rock songs, not sure if you will find them enjoyable....obviously many more.
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Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 09:51:52 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 09:22:14 PM
I'll go through and revisit some of these songs J for sure.

They are amazing hard rock songs, not sure if you will find them enjoyable....obviously many more.

As I said, I know most of those, but I'll listen more intensely.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 10:01:23 PM: Solid answer by Wolfamania.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 30, 2022, 01:33:34 AM: But The Cult also rocks!!!
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Post by: Deathless on June 30, 2022, 06:19:58 AM: I recently got into Saxon and their last few albums have been great. I also reversed course and started with some of their early albums and production-aside they've written a lot of really good tracks.

It feels like they've actually gotten more popular in the last 10-15 years than they ever were previously. Their 80's albums all broke into the Billboard top 200 but was the lack of a huge hit the reason they never broke through in the US?
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Post by: wolfking on June 30, 2022, 06:42:22 AM: New age Saxon is just too good. Since Lionheart they haven't put a foot wrong.
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Post by: Stadler on June 30, 2022, 07:03:53 AM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on June 28, 2022, 06:27:44 PM
I have an interview with Vinnie Appice next week. Let me know if you have any questions for him please!

Any more small-venue shows in line for "Last In Line"? Is Andrew still doing that now that he's in Great White as well (I heard he was)?

I saw Vinnie in about a 200 seat club a couple years ago with Last In Line (got to meet him and his girl/wife/partner after and even walked with him out to his car) and it was AMAZING. Nice guy; humble for the career he's had.
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Post by: Stadler on June 30, 2022, 07:21:57 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 29, 2022, 05:00:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 04:58:25 PM
Rainbow is a band that I have a few of their albums but just never really were able to get a firm grasp on them. I don't know, flame me, but I've never seen what all the fuss is about with Blackmore, I honestly don't think he's a good as the credit he gets. Maybe I need more exposure to him.

Oh boy, now you did it. 10,000 word response, not to mention the countless parentheses, commas, and semi colons, from Stadler incoming.

I'm too shaken. I need a moment. Haha.
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Post by: Stadler on June 30, 2022, 08:02:32 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 05:03:03 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 29, 2022, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on June 29, 2022, 04:27:34 PM
I really don't think Rainbow gets the recognition they deserve. I would say either Rainbow or Saxon are the biggest hard rock bands that most people have never heard of. But with Rainbow, songs like Lady of the Lake, Man on the Silver Mountain, Stargazer, Stone Cold, Street of Dreams etc are all outstanding. Has anyone ever heard Rainbow or Saxon played on regular radio ?

When I was a kid, I often heard Man On The Silver Mountain, Jealous Lover, Since You've Been Gone, Stone Cold, and Street Of Dreams.

Plus MTV used to play All Night Long, Death Alley Driver, and Can't Happen Here.

I think as far as longevity, Saxon is amazing.

I don't know if Rainbow is underrated. Ritchie Blackmore is one of the most popular guitarists of all time. I would also say that the Dio/Rainbow albums are the most inconsistent of the bunch.

Definitely wouldn't say underrated, I just think unknown. Just never hear Rainbow or Saxon mentioned whatsoever besides the hardcores.

I'll sort of agree with you; even when Rainbow is mentioned, it's about "Since You've Been Gone" or "Stone Cold" and dismissed as commercial crap. I just bought a couple Rainbow CDs on Discogs - Stranger In Us All, Live in '81, Live in Japan '84, and a box of three shows from '79 - and I was amazed at how good some of that was. The live "Difficult To Cure" (Beethoven's Ninth) from that live show from Japan (I think it's also on Finyl Vinyl) is stellar. I really do prefer the Joe Linquito years (that's Joe Lynn Turner's real name); there is so much material hidden in there that is good.

There's a reason Dream Theater covered all of "Made In Japan", so there's that. But if I had to name five songs to show the greatness of Blackmore, and staying away from the obvious (like Stargazer, which is unequivocally great) I'd go with...

- Highway Star; the solo is just a level above for the sort of hard rock that you'd expect at that time;
- Gates Of Babylon (from Long Live Rock n' Roll)
- Death Alley Driver (or Power) (from Straight Between The Eyes)
- Child In Time (any live version will do, though you probably want Ian Gillan singing it)
- Any of the blues instrumentals; Son Of Alerik (a Perfect Strangers b-side), Maybe Next Time (from Difficult to Cure), Weiss Heim (All Night Long b-side)

And as a bonus track, don't laugh at me, but "Fires At Midnight" from the Blackmore's Night catalogue. I dragged my kid to see Blackmore's Night once, and while she spent most of the night on the phone in the lobby (haha) during "Soldier Of Fortune", Ritchie did an extended acoustic intro and she was like "wow, that fucker (my word, not hers) can play!"

I am a fan boy, I'll concede that. But while he has a style, and there's a fair amount of repetition in the catalogue, there's a reason there are really only two guys in rock that get the sort of emulation and copying that Blackmore and Hendrix get. I will also say, Blackmore is at his best when he's pissed off. By all accounts he hated working on "The Battle Rages On", but it's some of his best work. Some of the riffs on that record are incendiary.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 30, 2022, 03:39:42 PM: Thanks Bill, I'll have a crack at those songs.
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on June 30, 2022, 06:28:12 PM: Quote from: Stadler on June 30, 2022, 07:03:53 AM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on June 28, 2022, 06:27:44 PM
I have an interview with Vinnie Appice next week. Let me know if you have any questions for him please!

Any more small-venue shows in line for "Last In Line"? Is Andrew still doing that now that he's in Great White as well (I heard he was)?

I saw Vinnie in about a 200 seat club a couple years ago with Last In Line (got to meet him and his girl/wife/partner after and even walked with him out to his car) and it was AMAZING. Nice guy; humble for the career he's had.

Thanks, I'll ask him about that!
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 30, 2022, 06:48:56 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 30, 2022, 03:39:42 PM
Thanks Bill, I'll have a crack at those songs.

Have a piss at the movie Twister, the songs Child in Time and Human Beings are amazing
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 01, 2022, 02:54:56 PM: I have no idea where Aerosmith gets talked about here, but Joey's wife died. Now we know why he took his recent leave of absence.

https://people.com/music/joey-kramer-wife-linda-dead-3-months-after-drummer-takes-aerosmith-leave-of-absence/
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Post by: TAC on July 01, 2022, 03:02:11 PM: Wow, that's awful. Only 55. Damn.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 03:39:17 PM: That's sad to hear. I really like Aerosmith but can't see the band playing too many more shows.
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Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2022, 04:23:21 PM: Just awful.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 06:13:15 PM: Listening to the first three Def Leppard albums; this was a really heavy band during this time.
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Post by: TAC on July 01, 2022, 06:33:10 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 06:13:15 PM
Listening to the first three Def Leppard albums; this was a really heavy band during this time.

Well, High n Dry was anyway. But compared to what they make now, it's practically death metal.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 06:42:12 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 01, 2022, 06:33:10 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 06:13:15 PM
Listening to the first three Def Leppard albums; this was a really heavy band during this time.

Well, High n Dry was anyway. But compared to what they make now, it's practically death metal.

Pyromania is excellent.
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Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2022, 06:57:01 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 01, 2022, 06:33:10 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 06:13:15 PM
Listening to the first three Def Leppard albums; this was a really heavy band during this time.

Well, High n Dry was anyway. But compared to what they make now, it's practically death metal.

Did someone call for me?
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 06:58:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 01, 2022, 06:57:01 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 01, 2022, 06:33:10 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 06:13:15 PM
Listening to the first three Def Leppard albums; this was a really heavy band during this time.

Well, High n Dry was anyway. But compared to what they make now, it's practically death metal.

Did someone call for me?

You're Foolin if anyone likes that death metal shit.
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Post by: Grappler on July 01, 2022, 07:17:35 PM: I was driving home from picking up my daughter at her summer camp yesterday and Dream On came on the radio. I found myself wondering when we'd eventually lose some of these guys from Aerosmith...Steven Tyler is already 74, though you wouldn't ever know it by looking at him.
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Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2022, 07:38:52 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 06:58:45 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 01, 2022, 06:57:01 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 01, 2022, 06:33:10 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 06:13:15 PM
Listening to the first three Def Leppard albums; this was a really heavy band during this time.

Well, High n Dry was anyway. But compared to what they make now, it's practically death metal.

Did someone call for me?

You're Foolin if anyone likes that death metal shit.

:metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 07:45:59 PM: haha
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 01, 2022, 09:14:23 PM: That Early Years set that Def Lep put out is gold, in my opinion. The concert alone is worth the price. I mentioned in their thread that it was probably the heaviest I ever heard them. So glad they put that thing out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 09:25:20 PM: The first three DL albums are classic but I really enjoy Hysteria too.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 01, 2022, 09:28:38 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 09:25:20 PM
The first three DL albums are classic but I really enjoy Hysteria too.

They cease to exist for me after Hysteria. I bought the next album only to sell it and never looked back (forward?). I really wonder how things would've turned out had Steve not died. Wonder if they would've wussed out like they did or if he would have helped them keep a bit of an edge.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 09:32:09 PM: Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 01, 2022, 09:28:38 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 09:25:20 PM
The first three DL albums are classic but I really enjoy Hysteria too.

They cease to exist for me after Hysteria. I bought the next album only to sell it and never looked back (forward?). I really wonder how things would've turned out had Steve not died. Wonder if they would've wussed out like they did or if he would have helped them keep a bit of an edge.

Yeah totally agree with you PP.........first 3 three DL albums are kick ass, Hysteria was clearly the album for money and women which I respect, havent paid much attention to them since then. I did listen to a Classic Rewind show on Sirius a few weeks ago which was pretty good.... 90% first 4 albums
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 02, 2022, 04:35:00 AM: Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 01, 2022, 09:28:38 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 01, 2022, 09:25:20 PM
The first three DL albums are classic but I really enjoy Hysteria too.

They cease to exist for me after Hysteria. I bought the next album only to sell it and never looked back (forward?). I really wonder how things would've turned out had Steve not died. Wonder if they would've wussed out like they did or if he would have helped them keep a bit of an edge.

They completely jumped the shark with Make Love Like a Man. What a horrible, HORRIBLE, piece of trash that is. There are the odd gems after Hysteria, but yeah... I don't even think I bought that album.
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Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 05:58:05 AM: Make Love Like A Man? :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 02, 2022, 06:20:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 05:58:05 AM
Make Love Like A Man? :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg1ogWFqedA

Bet you don't last 60 seconds. Double entendre notwithstanding. (the lyrics in) This song is 3-bag ugly. I really don't know which is worse, this, or Let's Get Rocked - actually, I do... it's the latter*. At least MLLaM has some tolerable riffs and melodies - the lyrics are just so brutal (and not in a good way).

* "Let's get the rock out of here". :lol They sure fucking did!
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Post by: bl5150 on July 02, 2022, 06:25:09 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 02, 2022, 06:20:59 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 05:58:05 AM
Make Love Like A Man? :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg1ogWFqedA

Bet you don't last 60 seconds. Double entendre notwithstanding. (the lyrics in) This song is 3-bag ugly. I really don't know which is worse, this, or Let's Get Rocked - actually, I do... it's the latter*. At least MLLaM has some tolerable riffs and melodies - the lyrics are just so brutal (and not in a good way).

* "Let's get the rock out of here". :lol They sure fucking did!

I remember bagging Let's Get Rocked in Deadeye's thread but I seemed to be the odd one out. I think it majorly blows and sucks
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 02, 2022, 06:39:11 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 02, 2022, 06:25:09 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 02, 2022, 06:20:59 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 05:58:05 AM
Make Love Like A Man? :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg1ogWFqedA

Bet you don't last 60 seconds. Double entendre notwithstanding. (the lyrics in) This song is 3-bag ugly. I really don't know which is worse, this, or Let's Get Rocked - actually, I do... it's the latter*. At least MLLaM has some tolerable riffs and melodies - the lyrics are just so brutal (and not in a good way).

* "Let's get the rock out of here". :lol They sure fucking did!

I remember bagging Let's Get Rocked in Deadeye's thread but I seemed to be the odd one out. I think it majorly blows and sucks

It's quite possibly the worst lyrics I've ever heard. And I'm not exaggerating.
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Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 07:14:30 AM: Let's Get Rocked!? :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 07:18:58 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 02, 2022, 06:20:59 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 05:58:05 AM
Make Love Like A Man? :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg1ogWFqedA

Bet you don't last 60 seconds. Double entendre notwithstanding. (the lyrics in) This song is 3-bag ugly. I really don't know which is worse, this, or Let's Get Rocked - actually, I do... it's the latter*. At least MLLaM has some tolerable riffs and melodies - the lyrics are just so brutal (and not in a good way).

* "Let's get the rock out of here". :lol They sure fucking did!

Yeah, that's fucking horrid. Not even an attempted solo anywhere in sight. Collin is a shit guitarist anyway but fuck.

The way Elliot sings that song it sounds like he's ducked embarrassed to sing, like he's trying to stop the words coming out of his mouth.
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Post by: Stadler on July 02, 2022, 07:23:20 AM: Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 01, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
That Early Years set that Def Lep put out is gold, in my opinion. The concert alone is worth the price. I mentioned in their thread that it was probably the heaviest I ever heard them. So glad they put that thing out.

I second this; it's basically the only Def Leppard I listen to at this point (except for the Hysteria b-sides).

Oh, and I too found "Let's Get Rocked" silly. I'm not a huge fan of the "We're ROCKERS and we're gonna ROCK" type songs anyway, but that's a new level of cringe-worthy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on July 02, 2022, 07:27:10 AM: Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 01, 2022, 02:54:56 PM
I have no idea where Aerosmith gets talked about here, but Joey's wife died. Now we know why he took his recent leave of absence.

https://people.com/music/joey-kramer-wife-linda-dead-3-months-after-drummer-takes-aerosmith-leave-of-absence/

I'm going to see the Fenway show in September; Aerosmith with Extreme opening. The show has been postponed I think 47 times so far, so we'll see, but I'm sort of excited about it. I've heard great things about the new Extreme record (I don't know if they will play anything at a show like that) and no matter what I feel about Aerosmith on record these day (they haven't put out a record I really, really like since Pump, though I like parts of Nine Lives) they have always been very good in my experience.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on July 02, 2022, 07:46:00 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 07:18:58 AM
Collin is a shit guitarist anyway but fuck.

Tell me more. I'm not saying I don't agree, but he's been one of those guys that defies logic for me. I don't know how to rank him. Like, he SHOULD be good, but it's not like I can point to "hey, listen to that solo on Highway Star" or whatever kind of good. Even in the style of music he plays, if he's "good" you should be able to tell (see Blackmore in Rainbow) but it has eluded me all these years.

He does have great abs, though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 08:05:44 AM: Quote from: Stadler on July 02, 2022, 07:46:00 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 07:18:58 AM
Collin is a shit guitarist anyway but fuck.

Tell me more. I'm not saying I don't agree, but he's been one of those guys that defies logic for me. I don't know how to rank him. Like, he SHOULD be good, but it's not like I can point to "hey, listen to that solo on Highway Star" or whatever kind of good. Even in the style of music he plays, if he's "good" you should be able to tell (see Blackmore in Rainbow) but it has eluded me all these years.

He does have great abs, though.

I think that's the thing. I'm not a DL fan in the slightest but I guess I haven't heard him really do anything, and the little bits I have heard seem some novice like. That little solo in Photograph comes to mind. Just so simple.

But yes, I'd kill for his abs. Who gives a fuck how you play when you have a washboard like that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 02, 2022, 09:25:24 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 08:05:44 AM
Quote from: Stadler on July 02, 2022, 07:46:00 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 02, 2022, 07:18:58 AM
Collin is a shit guitarist anyway but fuck.

Tell me more. I'm not saying I don't agree, but he's been one of those guys that defies logic for me. I don't know how to rank him. Like, he SHOULD be good, but it's not like I can point to "hey, listen to that solo on Highway Star" or whatever kind of good. Even in the style of music he plays, if he's "good" you should be able to tell (see Blackmore in Rainbow) but it has eluded me all these years.

He does have great abs, though.

I think that's the thing. I'm not a DL fan in the slightest but I guess I haven't heard him really do anything, and the little bits I have heard seem some novice like. That little solo in Photograph comes to mind. Just so simple.

But yes, I'd kill for his abs. Who gives a fuck how you play when you have a washboard like that.

Certainly not the ladies.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 03, 2022, 04:37:26 AM: Quote from: Stadler on July 02, 2022, 07:23:20 AM
Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 01, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
That Early Years set that Def Lep put out is gold, in my opinion. The concert alone is worth the price. I mentioned in their thread that it was probably the heaviest I ever heard them. So glad they put that thing out.

I second this; it's basically the only Def Leppard I listen to at this point (except for the Hysteria b-sides).

Oh, and I too found "Let's Get Rocked" silly. I'm not a huge fan of the "We're ROCKERS and we're gonna ROCK" type songs anyway, but that's a new level of cringe-worthy.

I’ve never had a problem with this album. Both the songs mentioned here are meant to be tongue in cheek, fun songs, not poetry. They had similar shit lyrics on the previous album, let’s face it. Women, Rocket, Animal, PSSOM, Armageddon It…
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2022, 04:39:04 AM: Armageddon It?! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 03, 2022, 04:45:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 03, 2022, 04:39:04 AM
Armageddon It?! :lol

How is this news to you? :omg:
It’s sold a billion albums 😂😂😂
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2022, 05:07:48 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 03, 2022, 04:45:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 03, 2022, 04:39:04 AM
Armageddon It?! :lol

How is this news to you? :omg:
It’s sold a billion albums 😂😂😂

I told you all, I've never really followed them at all besides the hit songs.

I sampled one of the early albums Tim recommended and that was actually pretty good, apart from that, yeah nothing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2022, 05:48:29 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on July 03, 2022, 04:37:26 AM
Quote from: Stadler on July 02, 2022, 07:23:20 AM
Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 01, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
That Early Years set that Def Lep put out is gold, in my opinion. The concert alone is worth the price. I mentioned in their thread that it was probably the heaviest I ever heard them. So glad they put that thing out.

I second this; it's basically the only Def Leppard I listen to at this point (except for the Hysteria b-sides).

Oh, and I too found "Let's Get Rocked" silly. I'm not a huge fan of the "We're ROCKERS and we're gonna ROCK" type songs anyway, but that's a new level of cringe-worthy.

I’ve never had a problem with this album. Both the songs mentioned here are meant to be tongue in cheek, fun songs, not poetry. They had similar shit lyrics on the previous album, let’s face it. Women, Rocket, Animal, PSSOM, Armageddon It…

I don't disagree, but they took it to a whole new level with 'Make Love ..' and Let's Get Rocked. I get it, they aren't Neil Peart, but ffs, put a little effort into it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2022, 04:49:10 PM: Listening to that Make Love Like A Man song, to me it doesn't really come across as tongue in cheek, it seems kinda serious.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2022, 05:39:52 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 03, 2022, 04:49:10 PM
Listening to that Make Love Like A Man song, to me it doesn't really come across as tongue in cheek, it seems kinda serious.

It comes across as tongue in man.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2022, 06:06:52 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2022, 08:31:25 PM: More like tongue in ass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 03, 2022, 08:33:59 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 03, 2022, 08:31:25 PM
More like tongue in ass.

Whichever you prefer. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2022, 09:17:34 PM: Depends whose ass.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 03, 2022, 09:59:11 PM: Should I rename this the Steel Panther Thread ? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 03, 2022, 10:32:45 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 03, 2022, 09:59:11 PM
Should I rename this the Steel Panther Thread ? :lol

With these song titles I actually got confused myself if we were actually talking about Def Leppard. Did go back to make sure it actually wasn't Steel Panther by mistake. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 05:14:08 PM: Just noticed that the WalMart that I've been going to for years and years has completely gotten rid of their CD section. Must have have been very recent within the last couple weeks, because every time I walk past I give a look. But just walked past and it's 100% removed and gone. It was legitimately replaced with Gatorade. That was a Robert Redford nod to the CD'S.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 06:14:40 PM: I don’t remember the last CD I bought. Might have been something at the last ProgPower I went to in ‘19.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:16:23 PM: I'm going to admit something here right now......I'm almost over buying CD's. This might go hand in hand with me not really getting into new music much at all, but I'm starting to really question spending the money on them these days. 9/10, I listen once and they collect dust. I'll still buy from my very favourite bands, but even those ones, I'll rip to the computer and they end up on a USB in the car to save changing discs. I feel dirty, but it's becoming harder and harder to justify.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:17:05 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 06:14:40 PM
I don’t remember the last CD I bought. Might have been something at the last ProgPower I went to in ‘19.

So how are you buying when you say 'purchase worthy?'
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 06:17:47 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:17:05 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 06:14:40 PM
I don’t remember the last CD I bought. Might have been something at the last ProgPower I went to in ‘19.

So how are you buying when you say 'purchase worthy?'

Digital download - iTunes or Bandcamp.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:19:41 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 06:17:47 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:17:05 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 06:14:40 PM
I don’t remember the last CD I bought. Might have been something at the last ProgPower I went to in ‘19.

So how are you buying when you say 'purchase worthy?'

Digital download - iTunes or Bandcamp.

Yeah, I've used bandcamp on a couple. Seems bandcamp the money goes straight to the answer anyway for the most part.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:26:24 PM: I'm long done with cd's too. I'm not sure who in this thread would have purchased the most cd's ever, but I'm going to say it was insanity and everyone else isn't too far behind. I do remember that story of Wolf having to call the Fire department because 250 amazon boxes (with cd's) was on top of him. A story like that has to be true.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:27:58 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:26:24 PM
I'm long done with cd's too. I'm not sure who in this thread would have purchased the most cd's ever, but I'm going to say it was insanity and everyone else isn't too far behind. I do remember that story of Wolf having to call the Fire department because 250 amazon boxes (with cd's) was on top of him. A story like that has to be true.

:rollin

I'll go through and count one day. Easily around 2500-3000 I think.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:30:21 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:26:24 PM
I'm long done with cd's too. I'm not sure who in this thread would have purchased the most cd's ever, but I'm going to say it was insanity and everyone else isn't too far behind. I do remember that story of Wolf having to call the Fire department because 250 amazon boxes (with cd's) was on top of him. A story like that has to be true.

:rollin

I'll go through and count one day. Easily around 2500-3000 I think.

Not far behind.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:30:30 PM: So.....I'm not really admitting anything controversial then. :lol

I know Tim still buys CD's.......maybe that's saying more about me. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:30:55 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:26:24 PM
I'm long done with cd's too. I'm not sure who in this thread would have purchased the most cd's ever, but I'm going to say it was insanity and everyone else isn't too far behind. I do remember that story of Wolf having to call the Fire department because 250 amazon boxes (with cd's) was on top of him. A story like that has to be true.

:rollin

I'll go through and count one day. Easily around 2500-3000 I think.

Not far behind.

I might count them on the weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 06:34:07 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:30:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:26:24 PM
I'm long done with cd's too. I'm not sure who in this thread would have purchased the most cd's ever, but I'm going to say it was insanity and everyone else isn't too far behind. I do remember that story of Wolf having to call the Fire department because 250 amazon boxes (with cd's) was on top of him. A story like that has to be true.

:rollin

I'll go through and count one day. Easily around 2500-3000 I think.

Not far behind.

I might count them on the weekend.

One push-up per CD.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:40:38 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 06:34:07 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:30:55 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:26:24 PM
I'm long done with cd's too. I'm not sure who in this thread would have purchased the most cd's ever, but I'm going to say it was insanity and everyone else isn't too far behind. I do remember that story of Wolf having to call the Fire department because 250 amazon boxes (with cd's) was on top of him. A story like that has to be true.

:rollin

I'll go through and count one day. Easily around 2500-3000 I think.

Not far behind.

I might count them on the weekend.

One push-up per CD.

Me come Monday morning.....

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/t9lBEE2FGMzbY9s5IX/200.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 06:41:05 PM: I'm going to say for me around 2500 cd's. Anyone that buys them I give a complete respect nod to. And that's why I often stopped at WalMart and had a look at this CD section up until recently. There are a couple of Sunrise Record stores (replaced HMV), London Drugs has a small section and maybe a few second hand stores in Winnipeg; besides that, the CD world is done. CD's were awesome, but society didn't care for them like this thread lol. Amazon might be the final place to buy them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:44:52 PM: We have a chain over here called JB HiFi that still carry a lot of cd's. They are literally everywhere and some have quite extensive selections;

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.fanpop.com%2Fimages%2Fphotos%2F2700000%2FCDs-section-at-JB-jb-hi-fi-2717120-470-274.jpg&hash=6bd9224dc06c925412cd7263e0ac94cc4c16f1c3)

That's the popular section and the metal section is decent at some of the stores. It's always a lot of fun going into the city and browsing the few stores around as they normally all have a few things different here and there. That's all part of the fun and why I've still been buying them up to this point. Not for the experience, but the searching and the journey getting them.

i haven't ordered online for a little bit, but I'll always be inclined to buy something I normally wouldn't buy if I go for a day out looking.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 07:15:20 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:44:52 PM
We have a chain over here called JB HiFi that still carry a lot of cd's. They are literally everywhere and some have quite extensive selections;

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.fanpop.com%2Fimages%2Fphotos%2F2700000%2FCDs-section-at-JB-jb-hi-fi-2717120-470-274.jpg&hash=6bd9224dc06c925412cd7263e0ac94cc4c16f1c3)

That's the popular section and the metal section is decent at some of the stores. It's always a lot of fun going into the city and browsing the few stores around as they normally all have a few things different here and there. That's all part of the fun and why I've still been buying them up to this point. Not for the experience, but the searching and the journey getting them.

i haven't ordered online for a little bit, but I'll always be inclined to buy something I normally wouldn't buy if I go for a day out looking.

Literally everywhere? Wolf, disregard everything that has been said in the last few posts and please keep buying these little bastards. The CD community legitmately now depends on you and whatever is happening in Australia with CD'S.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 07:46:10 PM: You do remember what he did with his Frequency Unknown CD?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on July 04, 2022, 08:06:56 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:44:52 PM
We have a chain over here called JB HiFi that still carry a lot of cd's. They are literally everywhere and some have quite extensive selections;

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.fanpop.com%2Fimages%2Fphotos%2F2700000%2FCDs-section-at-JB-jb-hi-fi-2717120-470-274.jpg&hash=6bd9224dc06c925412cd7263e0ac94cc4c16f1c3)

That's the popular section and the metal section is decent at some of the stores. It's always a lot of fun going into the city and browsing the few stores around as they normally all have a few things different here and there. That's all part of the fun and why I've still been buying them up to this point. Not for the experience, but the searching and the journey getting them.

i haven't ordered online for a little bit, but I'll always be inclined to buy something I normally wouldn't buy if I go for a day out looking.

Literally everywhere? Wolf, disregard everything that has been said in the last few posts and please keep buying these little bastards. The CD community legitmately now depends on you and whatever is happening in Australia with CD'S.

Around 195 stores across our great country, metal section in my local has shrunk a fair bit in the past few years.
I don't buy much from them unless it's a great price.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 08:08:12 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 07:46:10 PM
You do remember what he did with his Frequency Unknown CD?

Psst.....it's still on my shelf. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on July 04, 2022, 08:17:48 PM: I gave mine to my dog to S*** on, he pissed on it many times too :)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 04, 2022, 08:22:53 PM: I have at least 6 CD's on their way to me now. Mix of old and new stuff. One of them shipped from Poland.

Is there an AA equivalent for CD buyers?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 08:33:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 07:46:10 PM
You do remember what he did with his Frequency Unknown CD?

Psst.....it's still on my shelf. :facepalm:

Quote from: wolfking on May 02, 2013, 05:32:26 AM
I think I might throw my copy of FU at some clown walking down the street tomorrow for laughs.

I feel so betrayed!!! All these years, I’ve envisioned some bloke taking this CD to the head while walking to work. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 08:43:44 PM: I launched my copy of FU like a frisbee into a garbage bin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 08:56:59 PM: I would really be curious what everyone thinks their tally might be for CD buying. I’m at about 2500, Wolfster is at about 3000. There has to be more, I know someone cracked the 10,000 (Brentster?)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2022, 09:00:04 PM: Guaranteed not this guy. I’d honestly be surprised if I surpassed 1000. I started buying primarily digitally in the late 2000s (decade)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 09:02:31 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 08:56:59 PM
I would really be curious what everyone thinks their tally might be for CD buying. I’m at about 2500, Wolfster is at about 3000. There has to be more, I know someone cracked the 10,000 (Brentster?)

I seriously might schedule an hour to count them all on the weekend mate. I'm intrigued. I used to have a cd log a few years ago but the computer crashed and I didn't have the document backed up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: gazinwales on July 04, 2022, 11:04:02 PM: Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 04, 2022, 08:22:53 PM
I have at least 6 CD's on their way to me now. Mix of old and new stuff. One of them shipped from Poland.

Is there an AA equivalent for CD buyers?

I had 6 CD's arrive today, 5 from CD Japan and one from Amazon.
Nearly all my collection is on discogs some 2,925, with not everything I have yet on their database and I started in 2015 :biggrin:
If your really curious you can look at what I have, my username is pure666metal :yarr
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 05, 2022, 12:11:55 AM: I don't really know why, but I'm still buying cds. New ones mostly at amazon and a lot of used ones for cheap prices through various outlets. Like wolfking I rip them to the computer and the physical product goes on a shelf and collects dust, but I just can't bring myself around to buy only digital.

I have around 1800 cds.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2022, 05:05:00 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 04, 2022, 11:04:02 PM
Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 04, 2022, 08:22:53 PM
I have at least 6 CD's on their way to me now. Mix of old and new stuff. One of them shipped from Poland.

Is there an AA equivalent for CD buyers?

I had 6 CD's arrive today, 5 from CD Japan and one from Amazon.
Nearly all my collection is on discogs some 2,925, with not everything I have yet on their database and I started in 2015 :biggrin:
If your really curious you can look at what I have, my username is pure666metal :yarr

I started doing the discog thing because I think you mentioned it. I gave up an hour in because I realised how many hours it would actually take me to log them all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on July 05, 2022, 05:55:27 AM: Quote from: gazinwales on July 04, 2022, 08:06:56 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:44:52 PM
We have a chain over here called JB HiFi that still carry a lot of cd's. They are literally everywhere and some have quite extensive selections;

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.fanpop.com%2Fimages%2Fphotos%2F2700000%2FCDs-section-at-JB-jb-hi-fi-2717120-470-274.jpg&hash=6bd9224dc06c925412cd7263e0ac94cc4c16f1c3)

That's the popular section and the metal section is decent at some of the stores. It's always a lot of fun going into the city and browsing the few stores around as they normally all have a few things different here and there. That's all part of the fun and why I've still been buying them up to this point. Not for the experience, but the searching and the journey getting them.

i haven't ordered online for a little bit, but I'll always be inclined to buy something I normally wouldn't buy if I go for a day out looking.

Literally everywhere? Wolf, disregard everything that has been said in the last few posts and please keep buying these little bastards. The CD community legitmately now depends on you and whatever is happening in Australia with CD'S.

Around 195 stores across our great country, metal section in my local has shrunk a fair bit in the past few years.
I don't buy much from them unless it's a great price.

JB Hi-Fi is one if the things I miss about Australia. I worked in the mines in Western Australia, and every time I went back to Perth, I would spend a good 400 bucks on CDS and DVDs. Back then, this would get me A LOT of music!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 05, 2022, 05:58:09 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 08:56:59 PM
I would really be curious what everyone thinks their tally might be for CD buying. I’m at about 2500, Wolfster is at about 3000. There has to be more, I know someone cracked the 10,000 (Brentster?)

I wouldn't be anywhere near 10,000 discs , but all up (CD and digital with a 50/50 split) I'm guessing around 8000 albums , not including various unreleased shit I've picked up over the years. It would probably take me the rest of my life to get around to listening to the stuff I have sitting there not listened to. So aside from the effect of the last few years on my current listening habits (pretty much nil) , my drive to check out much new music has waned a lot. As you guys know I used to make it my business to be across everything but the strike rate with new stuff is pretty piss poor.

I do know that JB Hifi no longer stock anything from Frontiers so they had to close their Softcock Shit section, which is sad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2022, 07:01:12 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 05, 2022, 05:58:09 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 08:56:59 PM
I would really be curious what everyone thinks their tally might be for CD buying. I’m at about 2500, Wolfster is at about 3000. There has to be more, I know someone cracked the 10,000 (Brentster?)

I wouldn't be anywhere near 10,000 discs , but all up (CD and digital with a 50/50 split) I'm guessing around 8000 albums , not including various unreleased shit I've picked up over the years. It would probably take me the rest of my life to get around to listening to the stuff I have sitting there not listened to. So aside from the effect of the last few years on my current listening habits (pretty much nil) , my drive to check out much new music has waned a lot. As you guys know I used to make it my business to be across everything but the strike rate with new stuff is pretty piss poor.

I do know that JB Hifi no longer stock anything from Frontiers so they had to close their Softcock Shit section, which is sad.

Serious?

And 8000? That's massive!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2022, 07:02:00 AM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on July 05, 2022, 05:55:27 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on July 04, 2022, 08:06:56 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 04, 2022, 06:44:52 PM
We have a chain over here called JB HiFi that still carry a lot of cd's. They are literally everywhere and some have quite extensive selections;

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.fanpop.com%2Fimages%2Fphotos%2F2700000%2FCDs-section-at-JB-jb-hi-fi-2717120-470-274.jpg&hash=6bd9224dc06c925412cd7263e0ac94cc4c16f1c3)

That's the popular section and the metal section is decent at some of the stores. It's always a lot of fun going into the city and browsing the few stores around as they normally all have a few things different here and there. That's all part of the fun and why I've still been buying them up to this point. Not for the experience, but the searching and the journey getting them.

i haven't ordered online for a little bit, but I'll always be inclined to buy something I normally wouldn't buy if I go for a day out looking.

Literally everywhere? Wolf, disregard everything that has been said in the last few posts and please keep buying these little bastards. The CD community legitmately now depends on you and whatever is happening in Australia with CD'S.

Around 195 stores across our great country, metal section in my local has shrunk a fair bit in the past few years.
I don't buy much from them unless it's a great price.

JB Hi-Fi is one if the things I miss about Australia. I worked in the mines in Western Australia, and every time I went back to Perth, I would spend a good 400 bucks on CDS and DVDs. Back then, this would get me A LOT of music!

Nice. If you find a good JB you can easily lay out a heap of cash very quickly.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 05, 2022, 07:10:20 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 05, 2022, 07:01:12 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 05, 2022, 05:58:09 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 08:56:59 PM
I would really be curious what everyone thinks their tally might be for CD buying. I’m at about 2500, Wolfster is at about 3000. There has to be more, I know someone cracked the 10,000 (Brentster?)

I wouldn't be anywhere near 10,000 discs , but all up (CD and digital with a 50/50 split) I'm guessing around 8000 albums , not including various unreleased shit I've picked up over the years. It would probably take me the rest of my life to get around to listening to the stuff I have sitting there not listened to. So aside from the effect of the last few years on my current listening habits (pretty much nil) , my drive to check out much new music has waned a lot. As you guys know I used to make it my business to be across everything but the strike rate with new stuff is pretty piss poor.

I do know that JB Hifi no longer stock anything from Frontiers so they had to close their Softcock Shit section, which is sad.

Serious?

That's my understanding but occasionally you might get a diehard local guy who gets the stuff in I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2022, 04:56:29 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on July 05, 2022, 07:10:20 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 05, 2022, 07:01:12 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on July 05, 2022, 05:58:09 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on July 04, 2022, 08:56:59 PM
I would really be curious what everyone thinks their tally might be for CD buying. I’m at about 2500, Wolfster is at about 3000. There has to be more, I know someone cracked the 10,000 (Brentster?)

I wouldn't be anywhere near 10,000 discs , but all up (CD and digital with a 50/50 split) I'm guessing around 8000 albums , not including various unreleased shit I've picked up over the years. It would probably take me the rest of my life to get around to listening to the stuff I have sitting there not listened to. So aside from the effect of the last few years on my current listening habits (pretty much nil) , my drive to check out much new music has waned a lot. As you guys know I used to make it my business to be across everything but the strike rate with new stuff is pretty piss poor.

I do know that JB Hifi no longer stock anything from Frontiers so they had to close their Softcock Shit section, which is sad.

Serious?

That's my understanding but occasionally you might get a diehard local guy who gets the stuff in I guess.

That's interesting you say that, as I have seen it depends who works there and the collection they have. There's a JB up north in Morayfield, about an hour and a half drive that sometimes I'll go for a drive and check out. The guy working there is a big metalhead. I saw him at a Satriani concert once years ago too actually. Nevertheless, the metal section at that particular JB is extraordinary. He clearly loves his work and it shows.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 05, 2022, 06:10:45 PM: Buying a new CD that you had been looking forward to for awhile was always a great time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2022, 06:38:16 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 05, 2022, 06:10:45 PM
Buying a new CD that you had been looking forward to for awhile was always a great time.

It's just the best hey.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Zoom E on July 05, 2022, 06:44:47 PM: I have about 1800 CDs and 500 vinyl albums. I stopped buying vinyl in 1990 but still regularly buy CDs. The cost of CDs on Amazon Canada has skyrocketed though. A few years ago a new release was around $14 - $16. Now it’s about $25.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2022, 04:52:52 AM: Quote from: Zoom E on July 05, 2022, 06:44:47 PM
I have about 1800 CDs and 500 vinyl albums. I stopped buying vinyl in 1990 but still regularly buy CDs. The cost of CDs on Amazon Canada has skyrocketed though. A few years ago a new release was around $14 - $16. Now it’s about $25.

Yeah, I just can't justify spending as much as 100% more for something I'm only going to rip to my computer, and listen on my PC sound system or iPhone. I don't have a CD player / sound system otherwise. The only discs I've gotten over the past few years are part of digital art-books, or with a DVD combo-pack.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2022, 04:56:56 AM: Have you kept all your old CDs if you don't have a player?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2022, 05:34:13 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 06, 2022, 04:56:56 AM
Have you kept all your old CDs if you don't have a player?

Yeah, I did. Years ago, I put them in sleeves along with the booklet and back covers. I was sick and tired of the cases taking up so much space - and I only had a few hundred. You guys with 000s! Where do you put that shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on July 06, 2022, 08:20:20 AM: Funny enough, I mostly stay away from buying physical media and just buy the MP3s from amazon usually. I wanted to get the new Alestrom album. So I go to Amazon to buy the digital album, but its $18! WTF, usually it's $10 and cheaper than the physical disc. The actual CD is $15 and includes the instant digital download. So I have a sealed Alestorm album now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2022, 04:46:26 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on July 06, 2022, 08:20:20 AM
Funny enough, I mostly stay away from buying physical media and just buy the MP3s from amazon usually. I wanted to get the new Alestrom album. So I go to Amazon to buy the digital album, but its $18! WTF, usually it's $10 and cheaper than the physical disc. The actual CD is $15 and includes the instant digital download. So I have a sealed Alestorm album now.

That's a weird one indeed.

Quote from: jingle.boy on July 06, 2022, 05:34:13 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 06, 2022, 04:56:56 AM
Have you kept all your old CDs if you don't have a player?

Yeah, I did. Years ago, I put them in sleeves along with the booklet and back covers. I was sick and tired of the cases taking up so much space - and I only had a few hundred. You guys with 000s! Where do you put that shit.

It takes up a shit load of shelving space for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on July 06, 2022, 07:58:38 PM: It took a while for this one to be published, but here's the interview I did with Mark Boals, who sang with Malmsteen on some of his greatest albums: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOLqLknyLZE
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on July 07, 2022, 08:58:40 AM: A new single from The Cult!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_4DJGSbwcU&t=39s
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 07, 2022, 01:23:16 PM: Quote from: Deathless on July 07, 2022, 08:58:40 AM
A new single from The Cult!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_4DJGSbwcU&t=39s

I like it!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on July 08, 2022, 06:55:44 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 05, 2022, 05:05:00 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on July 04, 2022, 11:04:02 PM
Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 04, 2022, 08:22:53 PM
I have at least 6 CD's on their way to me now. Mix of old and new stuff. One of them shipped from Poland.

Is there an AA equivalent for CD buyers?

I had 6 CD's arrive today, 5 from CD Japan and one from Amazon.
Nearly all my collection is on discogs some 2,925, with not everything I have yet on their database and I started in 2015 :biggrin:
If your really curious you can look at what I have, my username is pure666metal :yarr

I started doing the discog thing because I think you mentioned it. I gave up an hour in because I realised how many hours it would actually take me to log them all.

I'm around 2,500 or so, and I'm in the process of both ripping all of it (lossless) to harddrive and entering it all into Discogs. Except for some random stuff, I'm up to "W"; I just finished "Whitesnake" and will be starting "The Who" sometime probably next week.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2022, 07:18:41 AM: Quote from: Stadler on July 08, 2022, 06:55:44 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 05, 2022, 05:05:00 AM
Quote from: gazinwales on July 04, 2022, 11:04:02 PM
Quote from: ProfessorPeart on July 04, 2022, 08:22:53 PM
I have at least 6 CD's on their way to me now. Mix of old and new stuff. One of them shipped from Poland.

Is there an AA equivalent for CD buyers?

I had 6 CD's arrive today, 5 from CD Japan and one from Amazon.
Nearly all my collection is on discogs some 2,925, with not everything I have yet on their database and I started in 2015 :biggrin:
If your really curious you can look at what I have, my username is pure666metal :yarr

I started doing the discog thing because I think you mentioned it. I gave up an hour in because I realised how many hours it would actually take me to log them all.

I'm around 2,500 or so, and I'm in the process of both ripping all of it (lossless) to harddrive and entering it all into Discogs. Except for some random stuff, I'm up to "W"; I just finished "Whitesnake" and will be starting "The Who" sometime probably next week.

That must have taken a fucking long time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on July 13, 2022, 07:23:34 AM: Is it just me or is the new Skid Row really good? I haven't listened to their non-Bach output but this sounds great. I like it much more than the first single. Hill and Snake are a really underrated guitar duo IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l78xN_hTRLk
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 13, 2022, 10:15:59 AM: @ Wolfking....CLEAR YOUR INBOX!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on July 13, 2022, 11:12:42 AM: Quote from: Deathless on July 13, 2022, 07:23:34 AM
Is it just me or is the new Skid Row really good? I haven't listened to their non-Bach output but this sounds great. I like it much more than the first single. Hill and Snake are a really underrated guitar duo IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l78xN_hTRLk

Some context before I answer: Skid Row in its classic form with Baz, was one of my favorite bands. Slave to the Grind (the censored version which includes Beggar's Day instead of Get the Fuck Out) is one of my favorite records of all time. When he left, I didn't like Solinger (RIP), nor did I like Tony Harnell's fit. I thought ZP Theart may work out...and then I saw the 30th anniversary of Slave to the Grind with him...and he was NOT good. And not surprisingly, they replaced him a few months later.

Regarding the new songs - they seem...to be pandering to fans of the first Skid Row record. Which for its time, was good. I pop it on when I'm doing stuff around the house or mindless stuff where it can be in the background. So to me, I think the new songs are a let down. They also have used Marti Frederiksen as a co-writer on a lot of material post-Baz, and as much as I think he's a great songwriter, I also think he really gives things a commercial spin. Again - the new stuff just reeks of Skid Row circa 1988 self-titled. And that's just not what I want, as a fan.

I'm also not as high on Erik Gronwall as everyone else for this particular band. Erik is amazing, and can hit some great notes, but his voice lacks the depth some of those classic Skid songs has. It's just very thin. Great singer, and best since Baz, but I still think the voice of Skid Row needs a lot of character and depth to it. Russell Allen would have been amazing. But he's busy with SX and TSO.

On an up note, all that said about Gronwall, I really wish he was fronting the band when I saw them last summer do all of Slave to the Grind. It would have been a MUCH better performance.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on July 13, 2022, 12:11:11 PM: Quote from: Samsara on July 13, 2022, 11:12:42 AM

Some context before I answer: Skid Row in its classic form with Baz, was one of my favorite bands. Slave to the Grind (the censored version which includes Beggar's Day instead of Get the Fuck Out) is one of my favorite records of all time.

YES! I actually revisited it recently, inspired by someone in the "Listening" thread. Still fantastic.

I had really enjoyed their debut. I had bought it when it came out: it was part of those albums that slowly and gently introduced me to harder-rocking music (think Alice Cooper's Trash too). I was 14 when Slave to the Grind was released and I remember at the time being pretty shocked (in a positive way) at how heavy it sounded, when Monkey Business got going. And then the title-track - man, that was unbelievable. The whole thing is chock full of great riffs and melodies. Sure, not every single song is an absolute winner, but most of them are. The playing is excellent and, well, not many singers could touch Bach at the time, I think. All the range he had shown on the debut plus the right amount of grit when needed. And those ballads - just incredible.

I have only heard the first single off the upcoming new album and, based on that, I would agree with your assessment. They definitely seem to have the self-titled in mind. Agreed on the singing too - Erik is excellent, but he's no Bach (in terms of the fit for the band, I mean).

Regardless, is it even possible for them to recapture what they were doing 30 years ago? Kinda hard to genuinely replicate that attitude. Although if they do happen to release a good, fun batch of new songs, why not? We'd be all the better for it...Plus they do sound pretty good based on a few live videos I've seen.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 13, 2022, 04:00:17 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2022, 10:15:59 AM
@ Wolfking....CLEAR YOUR INBOX!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2022, 05:17:40 PM: Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2022, 10:15:59 AM
@ Wolfking....CLEAR YOUR INBOX!

I've only got 25 fucking free spaces, why can't I get more damn it!!!!!!!??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on July 13, 2022, 05:45:05 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 13, 2022, 05:17:40 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2022, 10:15:59 AM
@ Wolfking....CLEAR YOUR INBOX!

I've only got 25 fucking free spaces, why can't I get more damn it!!!!!!!??

Did you ever figure out how that works? :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 13, 2022, 06:30:27 PM: Quote from: nick_z on July 13, 2022, 05:45:05 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 13, 2022, 05:17:40 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2022, 10:15:59 AM
@ Wolfking....CLEAR YOUR INBOX!

I've only got 25 fucking free spaces, why can't I get more damn it!!!!!!!??

Did you ever figure out how that works? :biggrin:

I sent bosk a PM but no reply.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 13, 2022, 07:03:45 PM: Skid Row s/t is a Top 10 of all time album for me. I too was shocked by Slave to The Grind, and it took some getting used to. At first, I wasn't prepared for that level of heaviness from Skid Row, but I grew to love it. And those 4 power ballads are all god-tier (though, nothing touches I Will Remember You, imo).

Guess I gotta check out the new tunes.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 13, 2022, 07:12:17 PM: Honestly, I applaud anyone that is still paying attention to Skid Row. That's hard core.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on July 13, 2022, 07:30:24 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 13, 2022, 07:03:45 PM
Skid Row s/t is a Top 10 of all time album for me. I too was shocked by Slave to The Grind, and it took some getting used to. At first, I wasn't prepared for that level of heaviness from Skid Row, but I grew to love it. And those 4 power ballads are all god-tier (though, nothing touches I Will Remember You, imo).

Guess I gotta check out the new tunes.

Are you just referring to Slave to the Grind? If so, which one do you count as the fourth power ballad? :)

Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2022, 07:12:17 PM
Honestly, I applaud anyone that is still paying attention to Skid Row. That's hard core.

I actually cannot name a single tune from anything post-Subhuman Race :biggrin:

If there's a chance they come out re-vitalized with this new singer, I'm all for a decent new album. Although, like I said, the first single didn't impress me at all.

That said, Slave to the Grind will always be an absolute classic in my music journey.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 13, 2022, 07:36:43 PM: Quote from: nick_z on July 13, 2022, 07:30:24 PM

Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2022, 07:12:17 PM
Honestly, I applaud anyone that is still paying attention to Skid Row. That's hard core.

I actually cannot name a single tune from anything post-Subhuman Race :biggrin:

Other than 18 And Life and I Remember You, I actually cannot name a single tune from anything pre Subhuman Race either. ;D ;D

I did see them twice back in the day though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 13, 2022, 07:55:56 PM: I would say the three most underrated Skid Row songs are Quicksand Jesus, Midnight Tornado, and Into Another.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Bolsters on July 13, 2022, 07:56:54 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 13, 2022, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: nick_z on July 13, 2022, 05:45:05 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 13, 2022, 05:17:40 PM
I've only got 25 fucking free spaces, why can't I get more damn it!!!!!!!??
Did you ever figure out how that works? :biggrin:
I sent bosk a PM but no reply.
Pretty sure it was ariich who used to be the person to put people in usergroups, might be worth sending him a PM instead.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on July 13, 2022, 08:23:55 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 13, 2022, 07:55:56 PM
I would say the three most underrated Skid Row songs are Quicksand Jesus, Midnight Tornado, and Into Another.

Three absolutely fantastic cuts - I don't know if I'd call Quicksand Jesus underrated, since it was a single and pretty successful (if I remember correctly), but the other two, yes, they are among my very favorites "deep" tracks in the respective albums.

There are parts in Midnight/Tornado that could pass for a Judas Priest tune - Tim, you should give it a listen, it might surprise you.

Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2022, 07:36:43 PM

Other than 18 And Life and I Remember You, I actually cannot name a single tune from anything pre Subhuman Race either. ;D ;D

I did see them twice back in the day though.

You should revisit Slave to the Grind. You might not love some of the stuff on it, but there are some absolute bangers (the title-track!)
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 13, 2022, 08:29:06 PM: Yes Midnight/Tornado............ :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 13, 2022, 08:34:39 PM: But also have to give an Honorable Mention to Big Guns, the best song about boobs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on July 14, 2022, 12:23:05 AM: The first two Skid Row records were great. Really captured something there.

And Beat Yourself Blind from Subhuman Race has some amazing screaming on it. :metal

But the two new tracks I've heard make my toes curl from a lyric and vocal delivery point of view. Trying SOOOO hard ... but no cigar. The solo on Tear It Down was cool.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 14, 2022, 05:30:27 AM: Quote from: nick_z on July 13, 2022, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 13, 2022, 07:03:45 PM
Skid Row s/t is a Top 10 of all time album for me. I too was shocked by Slave to The Grind, and it took some getting used to. At first, I wasn't prepared for that level of heaviness from Skid Row, but I grew to love it. And those 4 power ballads are all god-tier (though, nothing touches I Will Remember You, imo).

Guess I gotta check out the new tunes.

Are you just referring to Slave to the Grind? If so, which one do you count as the fourth power ballad? :)

Typo... I meant 3 (from SttG) of course.

Quote from: nick_z on July 13, 2022, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 13, 2022, 07:12:17 PM
Honestly, I applaud anyone that is still paying attention to Skid Row. That's hard core.

I actually cannot name a single tune from anything post-Subhuman Race :biggrin:
I can't even name anything of Subhuman Race!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on July 17, 2022, 06:30:02 PM: Putting this here mostly for Tim, since he's a fan of (and introduced me to) the band Seven Sisters...

Their vocalist/guitarist will be releasing an album under the Phantom Spell moniker, apparently exploring his passion for a more "prog-rock" sound. A couple of tracks from the Bandcamp page:

https://phantomspell.bandcamp.com/album/immortals-requiem

Not sure who else is involved. Based on the two songs, it is a little more 70s oriented, but still very punchy. Sounds intriguing and promising...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2022, 06:45:26 PM: Quote from: nick_z on July 17, 2022, 06:30:02 PM
Putting this here mostly for Tim, since he's a fan of (and introduced me to) the band Seven Sisters...

Their vocalist/guitarist will be releasing an album under the Phantom Spell moniker, apparently exploring his passion for a more "prog-rock" sound. A couple of tracks from the Bandcamp page:

https://phantomspell.bandcamp.com/album/immortals-requiem

Not sure who else is involved. Based on the two songs, it is a little more 70s oriented, but still very punchy. Sounds intriguing and promising...

Hey Nick, thanks! Phantom Spell actually came up in my youtube feed a few days ago. I thought it looked cool, so I clicked it. I immediately recognized the voice as Kyle McNeill. After a little digging, sure enough, it is him.
And yes it has a more 70's feel to it rather than the NWOBHM feel of Seven Sisters. I'm digging it, and will buy an album as soon as they have one.

I also thought the artwork looked familiar..

(https://i0.wp.com/www.forgotten-scroll.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/PhantomSpell_Cover.jpg?fit=1024%2C1024&ssl=1)

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0108289845_10.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2022, 11:58:31 AM: Quote from: Deathless on July 13, 2022, 07:23:34 AM
Is it just me or is the new Skid Row really good? I haven't listened to their non-Bach output but this sounds great. I like it much more than the first single. Hill and Snake are a really underrated guitar duo IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l78xN_hTRLk

I had a listen to the post STTG albums recently and found them to be solid. I never bothered first time round. I think I heard a song with a punky vibe and checked out. I still don’t own STTG as I hated the couple of songs I heard on release but listening to it years later I can enjoy it. Wasted Time is an incredible song, and up there with the best of the debut.

I can listen to Erik anytime so enjoyed the new song. It isn’t earthsakingly good or anything, but decent.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 04, 2022, 08:03:09 PM: Dirkschneider at this year's Wacken. Just posted today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyjhixTU0-4

It's all Accept songs. I must say, his voice sounds great.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 05, 2022, 05:24:36 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 04, 2022, 08:03:09 PM
Dirkschneider at this year's Wacken. Just posted today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyjhixTU0-4

It's all Accept songs. I must say, his voice sounds great.

His voice never sounded great Tim. He sounded Udo.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 05, 2022, 05:32:29 AM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 05, 2022, 05:24:36 AM
Quote from: TAC on August 04, 2022, 08:03:09 PM
Dirkschneider at this year's Wacken. Just posted today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyjhixTU0-4

It's all Accept songs. I must say, his voice sounds great.

His voice never sounded great Tim. He sounded Udo.

Rite?? I was thinking "great" and Dirkschneider's voice should never be uttered in the same sentence. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2022, 06:12:18 AM: I love UDO. His music is consistently excellent and sorry, I love his voice, its excellent for what it is IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on August 05, 2022, 07:55:07 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 05, 2022, 06:12:18 AM
I love UDO. His music is consistently excellent and sorry, I love his voice, its excellent for what it is IMO.

He is definitely an important figure in the early days of metal, and managed to survive as a solo artist in an increasingly competitive and ungrateful market. The fact that he's playing with his son (who also manages his career) now is pretty cool. If you want straight-ahead metal with absolutely no frills, Udo absolutely delivers!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2022, 02:39:34 PM: Indeed. Didn't dig the last album too much but the couple before it were just awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 06, 2022, 06:28:22 AM: Anyone spin Sinner/Brotherhood yet. Me liking very much. Solid +++
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2022, 06:30:09 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 06, 2022, 06:28:22 AM
Anyone spin Sinner/Brotherhood yet. Me liking very much. Solid +++

I sampled one song and it had a real old school, Judgement Day/Nature of Evil vibe. It was very good. I'll try and get onto it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 06, 2022, 06:34:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 06, 2022, 06:30:09 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on August 06, 2022, 06:28:22 AM
Anyone spin Sinner/Brotherhood yet. Me liking very much. Solid +++

I sampled one song and it had a real old school, Judgement Day/Nature of Evil vibe. It was very good. I'll try and get onto it.

Certainly a lot of PF vibes, but also a splash of Preist in there every so often.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 10, 2022, 04:46:24 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 06, 2022, 06:34:59 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 06, 2022, 06:30:09 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on August 06, 2022, 06:28:22 AM
Anyone spin Sinner/Brotherhood yet. Me liking very much. Solid +++

I sampled one song and it had a real old school, Judgement Day/Nature of Evil vibe. It was very good. I'll try and get onto it.

Certainly a lot of PF vibes, but also a splash of Preist in there every so often.

I gave it a listen. It was "solid"
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 12, 2022, 05:45:09 PM: https://youtu.be/e9oJrJ4g27U

I didn’t see this one coming. Jim Matheos with Steve Overland of FM? Interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2022, 05:48:11 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 12, 2022, 05:45:09 PM
https://youtu.be/e9oJrJ4g27U

I didn’t see this one coming. Jim Matheos with Steve Overland of FM? Interesting.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=57495.msg2888297#msg2888297
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2022, 08:39:23 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 12, 2022, 05:45:09 PM
https://youtu.be/e9oJrJ4g27U

I didn’t see this one coming. Jim Matheos with Steve Overland of FM? Interesting.

Kinda blows.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 13, 2022, 01:21:17 AM: Playing it a second time after listening to this A-Z everyone is raving about and preferring this so far.. admittedly I’m only a couple of songs in to the A-Z and this is just one song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 13, 2022, 01:31:06 AM: Ok I take it back. This A-Z is pretty great. Going to have to buy it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2022, 04:34:57 AM: Quote from: wolfking on August 12, 2022, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 12, 2022, 05:45:09 PM
https://youtu.be/e9oJrJ4g27U

I didn’t see this one coming. Jim Matheos with Steve Overland of FM? Interesting.

Kinda blows.

Yeah... a track showed up in my Spotify new release list, and it was all kinds of meh
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 15, 2022, 03:47:37 PM: Tommy Aldridge turned 72 today. WOW! He looked 72 in 1982. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2022, 04:15:26 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 15, 2022, 03:47:37 PM
Tommy Aldridge turned 72 today. WOW! He looked 72 in 1982. :lol

He looks 172.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 15, 2022, 06:23:54 PM: Damn - just heard that Steve Grimmett (Grim Reaper/Onslaught/Lionsheart) has passed away aged 62. Possibly not a big name to many here but I was a massive fan of Lionsheart in particular in my younger days . He had such a distinctive voice (and look :) ) and by all accounts , including one very brief chat I had with him, seemed to be the nicest guy you could ever meet. Like many good eggs in the industry I understand he was milked of almost all the money he should've made by record labels/managers etc....... He has been through hell over recent years - pun not intended - after losing a leg during a tour of Ecuador. Possibly not the best place to develop a severe bone infection , but on the surface at least , he just dealt with it like a trooper and has been performing on and off with a prosthetic leg/wheelchair. One of the genuine good guys.

R.I.P Steve :-[

(https://nysmusic.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/grim-reaper-10-1-87-2-steve-grimmett.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 15, 2022, 06:26:34 PM: I actually saw Grim Reaper in 1987. Only stayed for the first few songs.

I saw his name in the news, but for some reason, I thought he had already passed.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2022, 06:31:15 PM: Don't know anything from him, except the song See You in Hell which is him I think?

God damn 62 is young.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 15, 2022, 06:35:16 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 15, 2022, 06:31:15 PM
Don't know anything from him, except the song See You in Hell which is him I think?

God damn 62 is young.

Yeah that's the one Kade. I'm sure there would've been a discussion around Lionsheart in my Top 50 but cannot remember much.

Here's a melodic rock/metal track from Lionsheart that just about blew my head off when I first heard it as a kid :metal

Portrait : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKHLCj328Y4
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Zoom E on August 15, 2022, 06:36:00 PM: I really enjoyed the first few Grim Reaper albums, and also the one album Steve did with Onslaught. He had a great set of pipes.

RIP
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 15, 2022, 06:40:08 PM: So, going back to Tommy Aldridge for a second, one thing I remember from Rudy Sarzo's book is that the band would arrive in whatever city they were playing, and there was always a girl there to pick up Tommy. Rudy said he had a girl in every city. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2022, 06:54:23 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 15, 2022, 06:35:16 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 15, 2022, 06:31:15 PM
Don't know anything from him, except the song See You in Hell which is him I think?

God damn 62 is young.

Yeah that's the one Kade. I'm sure there would've been a discussion around Lionsheart in my Top 50 but cannot remember much.

Here's a melodic rock/metal track from Lionsheart that just about blew my head off when I first heard it as a kid :metal

Portrait : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKHLCj328Y4

That was cracking. Great guitar work and strong Malmsteen vibe through the whole. Tremendous vocals too. Will endeavor to delve further.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on August 15, 2022, 06:55:55 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 15, 2022, 03:47:37 PM
Tommy Aldridge turned 72 today. WOW! He looked 72 in 1982. :lol

So true :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Zoom E on August 15, 2022, 07:34:43 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 15, 2022, 06:54:23 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 15, 2022, 06:35:16 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 15, 2022, 06:31:15 PM
Don't know anything from him, except the song See You in Hell which is him I think?

God damn 62 is young.

Yeah that's the one Kade. I'm sure there would've been a discussion around Lionsheart in my Top 50 but cannot remember much.

Here's a melodic rock/metal track from Lionsheart that just about blew my head off when I first heard it as a kid :metal

Portrait : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKHLCj328Y4

That was cracking. Great guitar work and strong Malmsteen vibe through the whole. Tremendous vocals too. Will endeavor to delve further.

I gave that a listen too and was very impressed. I had never listened to Lionheart before.

Wolf, you might also want to check out the Onslaught album for a bit of thrash.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: WardySI on August 15, 2022, 08:01:47 PM: Oh man that's sad news indeed after everything he went through.

I never ventured into Reaper a whole lot nor Onslaught tbf and I missed Lionsheart back in the day but stumbled accross their catalogue many years back and it was one true discoveries what a rabbit hole that was, some sensational 80's styled hard rock released during the genres dark days.

Excellent stuff and what a voice!

RIP Steve
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 15, 2022, 08:13:38 PM: For anyone wanting to check out a couple of the bands mentioned re Steve Grimmett.............just bear a couple of things in mind :)

Lionheart/Lionsheart...........there is a band called Lionheart but we're talking Lionsheart

Onslaught - Steve only appeared on one album and it was a lot more melodic and considered a bit of a sellout by the diehard fans. The one to checkout is In Search Of Sanity and this is the title track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CEiMfAx4qw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2022, 09:21:30 PM: Yeah nice guys, I'll sample the Onslaught.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 03:50:56 PM: That Onslaught album is excellent. never heard them before. I just thought they were a shitty thrash band.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 04:47:04 PM: Anyone tried the new Lillian Axe? I love this band. Going to see them next week. Can't remember if I saw them back in the day or not so might be the last chance i get. They don't come to the UK often.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 18, 2022, 04:59:53 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Anyone tried the new Lillian Axe?

I never even tried the old Lillian Axe. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2022, 05:32:42 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 18, 2022, 04:59:53 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Anyone tried the new Lillian Axe?

I never even tried the old Lillian Axe. :lol

:lol Same.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 18, 2022, 06:42:17 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 03:50:56 PM
That Onslaught album is excellent. never heard them before. I just thought they were a shitty thrash band.
:tup

Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Anyone tried the new Lillian Axe? I love this band. Going to see them next week. Can't remember if I saw them back in the day or not so might be the last chance i get. They don't come to the UK often.

Is it worth trying? Ron Taylor was a huge part of their sound. Psychoschizophrenia is a classic IMO (and Poetic Justice was damn good to............even just for the album cover :lol ) but I really haven't taken much notice since. Everything I tried out (or bought in the case of Fields of Yesterday) just seemed a shadow of their past.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on August 19, 2022, 01:08:34 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 18, 2022, 06:42:17 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 03:50:56 PM
That Onslaught album is excellent. never heard them before. I just thought they were a shitty thrash band.
:tup

Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Anyone tried the new Lillian Axe? I love this band. Going to see them next week. Can't remember if I saw them back in the day or not so might be the last chance i get. They don't come to the UK often.

Is it worth trying? Ron Taylor was a huge part of their sound. Psychoschizophrenia is a classic IMO (and Poetic Justice was damn good to............even just for the album cover :lol ) but I really haven't taken much notice since. Everything I tried out (or bought in the case of Fields of Yesterday) just seemed a shadow of their past.

Their sound changed after Ron left. All their singers have had a similar voice but Ron was great. They went a bit gothic sounding I guess. A darker sound. I’ve enjoyed all their albums. Love & War and Poetic Justice made my top 50. As you say, Psychoschizophrenia was excellent too.

I tried the new one last night when I went to bed but nodded off. Not a commentary on the album + I was just very tired.

I’ve always like Stevie Blaze’s guitar playing. Underrated.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 20, 2022, 01:52:21 PM: Wolfking....your inbox is full!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2022, 05:42:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 20, 2022, 01:52:21 PM
Wolfking....your inbox is full!

Sorry mate, I knew this message was coming when it was full this morning! :sad:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2022, 06:03:04 PM: What does everyone think about the album "Promised Land" by Queensryche?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 20, 2022, 06:04:28 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 20, 2022, 01:52:21 PM
Wolfking....your inbox is full!

Trolls only get 25 messages in their inbox - be patient!

Quote from: jjrock88 on August 20, 2022, 06:03:04 PM
What does everyone think about the album "Promised Land" by Queensryche?

:tdwn :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2022, 06:06:24 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 20, 2022, 06:04:28 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 20, 2022, 01:52:21 PM
Wolfking....your inbox is full!

Trolls only get 25 messages in their inbox - be patient!

Quote from: jjrock88 on August 20, 2022, 06:03:04 PM
What does everyone think about the album "Promised Land" by Queensryche?

:tdwn :lol

Lol. I have asked for a bigger inbox but haven't had a reply. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2022, 06:07:37 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on August 20, 2022, 06:03:04 PM
What does everyone think about the album "Promised Land" by Queensryche?

:lol :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on August 22, 2022, 11:44:11 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 18, 2022, 06:42:17 PM
Psychoschizophrenia is a classic IMO

Totally agree. I absolutely love that album. I wish that lineup had been able to keep it together. I still reach for this one fairly often.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on August 25, 2022, 06:45:46 PM: So, I've always thought that Joe Lynn Turner's hair was awful, like, really awful. Well, it turns out that was never his hair. The man has been bald pretty much his entire life. It's been wigs his entire career. Oh, and he has a new song and album coming.

https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/joe-lynn-turner-alopecia/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 25, 2022, 06:51:36 PM: Wow, I did not know that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2022, 07:55:03 PM: Really?? I thought it was obvious as fuck he wore wigs.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 25, 2022, 08:02:59 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 25, 2022, 07:55:03 PM
Really?? I thought it was obvious as fuck he wore wigs.

JLT and rugs has been an ongoing joke for 25+ years but beyond that I cannot remember.

I've heard the new song and he's trying to do Judas Priest ............getting some positive reviews but doesn't work for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvp2eteNXE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2022, 08:10:37 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 25, 2022, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 25, 2022, 07:55:03 PM
Really?? I thought it was obvious as fuck he wore wigs.

JLT and rugs has been an ongoing joke for 25+ years but beyond that I cannot remember.

I've heard the new song and he's trying to do Judas Priest ............getting some positive reviews but doesn't work for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvp2eteNXE&feature=youtu.be

Pretty solid.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 26, 2022, 05:29:23 AM: I never really cared, although if it was a wig all along, he could have gotten one that at least looks good.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 26, 2022, 03:37:00 PM: Kade, clear your inbox.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 26, 2022, 04:22:14 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 26, 2022, 03:37:00 PM
Kade, clear your inbox.

I'm sorry I'm sorry......
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 26, 2022, 04:35:03 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 26, 2022, 04:22:14 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 26, 2022, 03:37:00 PM
Kade, clear your inbox.

I'm sorry I'm sorry......

Puppies Concept Album sent!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: WardySI on August 26, 2022, 04:56:42 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on August 18, 2022, 06:42:17 PM

Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Anyone tried the new Lillian Axe? I love this band. Going to see them next week. Can't remember if I saw them back in the day or not so might be the last chance i get. They don't come to the UK often.

Is it worth trying? Ron Taylor was a huge part of their sound. Psychoschizophrenia is a classic IMO (and Poetic Justice was damn good to............even just for the album cover :lol ) but I really haven't taken much notice since. Everything I tried out (or bought in the case of Fields of Yesterday) just seemed a shadow of their past.

Big fan here too and reckon Psycho is their peak album and it already hinted at the direction that Steve would take moving forward. But there's plenty more to like both before then and after, I've enjoyed all their eras. Water's Rising was my personal favourite of the post Ron Taylor albums, the title track alone worth the price and the variation on that one was exceptional, it all works. And The Days Before Tomorrow was probably the closest they came to releasing something as strong as their heyday, fantastic album.

So far as the new one goes I'm not 100% sold on From Womb To Tomb. It's a grand attempt at a conceptual start to finish deal but after almost a 10yr wait and with a new throat on mic it's a little overly ambitious maybe? That said there's a good half dozen cuts I am loving too so digging in regardless 🤘

I will add this has been one hell of a thread to (try) and catch up with too LOL (I cheated and jumped in at a few pages back)...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ProfessorPeart on August 26, 2022, 08:00:20 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on August 26, 2022, 05:29:23 AM
I never really cared, although if it was a wig all along, he could have gotten one that at least looks good.

Exactly! Now knowing that was a rug all this time I can't believe what he went with all these years.
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Post by: TAC on August 26, 2022, 08:14:49 PM: I can't believe he kept it hidden all of these years. I mean he made three Rainbow albums with what, about 15 different band members. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on August 27, 2022, 01:29:10 AM: Quote from: WardySI on August 26, 2022, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on August 18, 2022, 06:42:17 PM

Quote from: Lowdz on August 18, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Anyone tried the new Lillian Axe? I love this band. Going to see them next week. Can't remember if I saw them back in the day or not so might be the last chance i get. They don't come to the UK often.

Is it worth trying? Ron Taylor was a huge part of their sound. Psychoschizophrenia is a classic IMO (and Poetic Justice was damn good to............even just for the album cover :lol ) but I really haven't taken much notice since. Everything I tried out (or bought in the case of Fields of Yesterday) just seemed a shadow of their past.

Big fan here too and reckon Psycho is their peak album and it already hinted at the direction that Steve would take moving forward. But there's plenty more to like both before then and after, I've enjoyed all their eras. Water's Rising was my personal favourite of the post Ron Taylor albums, the title track alone worth the price and the variation on that one was exceptional, it all works. And The Days Before Tomorrow was probably the closest they came to releasing something as strong as their heyday, fantastic album.

So far as the new one goes I'm not 100% sold on From Womb To Tomb. It's a grand attempt at a conceptual start to finish deal but after almost a 10yr wait and with a new throat on mic it's a little overly ambitious maybe? That said there's a good half dozen cuts I am loving too so digging in regardless

I will add this has been one hell of a thread to (try) and catch up with too LOL (I cheated and jumped in at a few pages back)...

Thanks Wardy ......will do a little more digging when I get the chance. . Have always enjoyed your posts.....here and elsewhere. If you haven't picked up on it I was one of the first members on the mr.com Noticeboard (as brent and later theoriginalbrent when some ass registered under the same to cause trouble) and moved myself over here about a decade ago when I got sick of a few of the self-appointed authorities over there :azn: This has turned into one of (if not the) biggest thread on DTF so have fun :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2022, 05:52:21 AM: A bit of a coincidence that Brent left over there and about 10 years ago was when the whole melodic rock scene turned to absolute shit.....hmm....
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on August 30, 2022, 03:33:52 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/metalshop-host-charlie-kendall-uploads-episodes-of-classic-radio-program-with-updated-commentary

This is going to be good. My local station played the Metal Shop at midnight on Saturdays for about a year and a half. Just listening to this clip brings back so many memories.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 16, 2022, 04:56:55 AM: The ultimate soul metal mash up :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrj_uCWxp5Y
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2022, 03:54:19 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 16, 2022, 04:56:55 AM
The ultimate soul metal mash up :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrj_uCWxp5Y

I watched that the other night when it popped up on my feed, it's fucking incredible.

This one I also found was just amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR3uz8rq4ng
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 25, 2022, 02:09:20 PM: Interesting project here..

https://bravewords.com/news/elegant-weapons-new-metal-supergroup-featuring-members-of-judas-priest-rainbow-and-pantera-to-issue-debut-album-in-spring-23

Ronnie Romero (ok..not that interesting..)
Richie Faulkner
Rex Brown
Scott Travis
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on October 25, 2022, 03:12:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2022, 02:09:20 PM
Interesting project here..

https://bravewords.com/news/elegant-weapons-new-metal-supergroup-featuring-members-of-judas-priest-rainbow-and-pantera-to-issue-debut-album-in-spring-23

Ronnie Romero (ok..not that interesting..)
Richie Faulkner
Rex Brown
Scott Travis

Romero is fine but I wish there was a new "flavor of the week" singer that gets picked up for these melodic/hard rock projects. Brown and Travis are a really interesting rhythm section and it will be fun to hear Richie's stuff!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 25, 2022, 03:58:22 PM: What does everyone think of the Pantera "reunion".......seems solid to me
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2022, 05:06:28 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on October 25, 2022, 03:58:22 PM
What does everyone think of the Pantera "reunion".......seems solid to me

I didn't like the idea at first but I'm warming to it. Only because it's Zak. The proof will be in the performances though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2022, 05:06:52 PM: Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2022, 02:09:20 PM
Interesting project here..

https://bravewords.com/news/elegant-weapons-new-metal-supergroup-featuring-members-of-judas-priest-rainbow-and-pantera-to-issue-debut-album-in-spring-23

Ronnie Romero (ok..not that interesting..)
Richie Faulkner
Rex Brown
Scott Travis

Fuck I'm sick of this guy now.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2022, 08:46:16 PM: Seeing JJ around reminded me of this recent release

https://youtu.be/j3hA1nrG7M0?t=1326

I am not across anything much in terms of recent releases but stumbled onto this the other day. Listening to the singer scream his fucking head off put a big smile on my face and the music is very solid classic metal to boot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2022, 08:52:10 PM: I'll click this later. Glad I'm not the only one not across a lot of recent releases. Just have no interest in much anymore, kinda worrying.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2022, 05:00:21 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 25, 2022, 08:46:16 PM
Seeing JJ around reminded me of this recent release

https://youtu.be/j3hA1nrG7M0?t=1326

I am not across anything much in terms of recent releases but stumbled onto this the other day. Listening to the singer scream his fucking head off put a big smile on my face and the music is very solid classic metal to boot.

This fucking rips. Wonderful vocals.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2022, 05:43:35 AM: Riot City is awesome. I pimped them when their last album came out and even purchased it. I haven't had a chance to listen to their new one yet. I'll cross that off my list today.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 26, 2022, 05:55:23 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2022, 05:43:35 AM
Riot City is awesome. I pimped them when their last album came out and even purchased it. I haven't had a chance to listen to their new one yet. I'll cross that off my list today.

New singer vs the last album..............old singer still in the band , just on guitar.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2022, 05:58:13 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 26, 2022, 05:55:23 AM
Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2022, 05:43:35 AM
Riot City is awesome. I pimped them when their last album came out and even purchased it. I haven't had a chance to listen to their new one yet. I'll cross that off my list today.

New singer vs the last album..............old singer still in the band , just on guitar.

Oh interesting. I'll have to look that all up.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on October 26, 2022, 10:19:04 AM: Yeah, Electric Elite is good stuff. The singing is over the top, but it really works. And while this doesn't bring anything new to the table, there sure is an infectious energy and urgency!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2022, 04:57:05 PM: Quote from: nick_z on October 26, 2022, 10:19:04 AM
Yeah, Electric Elite is good stuff. The singing is over the top, but it really works. And while this doesn't bring anything new to the table, there sure is an infectious energy and urgency!

Sometimes things don't have to be new but they can still bring something fresh to a style we know and love. I'll try and find time to check the whole thing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2022, 07:02:12 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/motley-crue-guitarist-mick-mars-retires-from-touring
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2022, 09:20:45 AM: Shame that it's due to health reasons, but *hopes Vince announces the same*
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2022, 09:37:21 PM: For fans of King Diamond ;) ...........let me know what you think Kade.

https://fb.watch/gr1ODXBGIp/
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2022, 04:45:05 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2022, 09:37:21 PM
For fans of King Diamond ;) ...........let me know what you think Kade.

https://fb.watch/gr1ODXBGIp/

Can't see it mate as I don't have Facebook. Maybe cause I'm on my phone though.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on October 28, 2022, 07:17:24 AM: Quote from: wolfking on October 28, 2022, 04:45:05 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2022, 09:37:21 PM
For fans of King Diamond ;) ...........let me know what you think Kade.

https://fb.watch/gr1ODXBGIp/

Can't see it mate as I don't have Facebook. Maybe cause I'm on my phone though.

Found the song on Youtube :metal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRNVQmwxhM

And before you ask.............................yes , tongue firmly in cheek.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on October 28, 2022, 09:21:30 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2022, 09:20:45 AM
Shame that it's due to health reasons, but *hopes Vince announces the same*

Aren't those the health reasons? His hearing is deteriorating listening to Vince butcher those songs night after night.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on October 28, 2022, 12:44:13 PM: Quote from: Stadler on October 28, 2022, 09:21:30 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on October 27, 2022, 09:20:45 AM
Shame that it's due to health reasons, but *hopes Vince announces the same*

Aren't those the health reasons? His hearing is deteriorating listening to Vince butcher those songs night after night.

Def Leppard and Crue are playing a festival near where I live next summer. Still deciding if I can be arsed to go. Too old to stand up all day 😀
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2022, 02:14:46 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on October 28, 2022, 07:17:24 AM
Quote from: wolfking on October 28, 2022, 04:45:05 AM
Quote from: bl5150 on October 27, 2022, 09:37:21 PM
For fans of King Diamond ;) ...........let me know what you think Kade.

https://fb.watch/gr1ODXBGIp/

Can't see it mate as I don't have Facebook. Maybe cause I'm on my phone though.

Found the song on Youtube :metal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRNVQmwxhM

And before you ask.............................yes , tongue firmly in cheek.

WTF?! :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on October 28, 2022, 02:46:18 PM: The comments below the video are priceless. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2022, 04:25:31 AM: Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2022, 02:46:18 PM
The comments below the video are priceless. :lol

Do you guys need a second guitarist? If so, I'm willing to try.

:lol Dude, just simply wanting to join this band gets you the job.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2022, 06:23:02 AM: Priest's Hall Of Fame induction performance.........after being introduced by Alice Cooper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQI9unurhmg

Before hitting the stage with their medley, the group was welcomed by Alice Cooper, who described Priest as “the definitive metal band.”

“They defined the sound we know of heavy metal and their sound is unmistakable,” Cooper said. “And what can you say about Rob Halford’s voice? Never have screams covered such a range. Is there any emotion that he can’t express?”

Cooper described Halford as “one of the greatest singers in heavy metal history” and praised the group for defining “what heavy metal looked like.”

“They’re electrifying on stage and one of the hardest-hitting live bands in the history of rock and roll. Priest has carried the flag of hard rock and heavy metal proudly for something like 50 years, never wavering or following trends or pretending to be anything but exactly what they are,” Cooper said. “They are flying high tonight. Much deserved and long overdue.”
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2022, 01:59:11 PM: Here's Alice's induction speech and the tribute film. Love the Heavy Metal Parking Lot clips in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpq9MvlvP7Q
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2022, 05:21:47 PM: A belated Happy Hallow(malmst)een Kade

(https://i.postimg.cc/pLG8q5G8/hallowmalmsteen.png)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2022, 05:30:40 PM: :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2022, 06:30:16 PM: :rollin

(https://i.imgur.com/dOrP52N.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 11, 2022, 09:05:49 AM: :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2022, 04:02:31 AM: Just for Tim, a Ronnie Romero covers album! :lol

https://youtu.be/6jFO_lQAfzs
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2022, 05:05:03 AM: Now Frontiers can save time and money by not even putting the effort into writing crappy material. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on November 15, 2022, 08:00:13 AM: Say what you want about Frontiers or Ronnie, at least this is a pretty good tracklist for the album. The album title is lame though - how many "raised on radio" titles have there been, and then they just drop in the word "heavy." haha.

“Raised On Heavy Radio” Tracklisting:
1. The Battle Rages On (Deep Purple cover)
2. Metal Daze (Manowar cover)
3. Turbo Lover (Feat. Nozomu Wakai) (Judas Priest cover)
4. Hallowed Be Thy Name (Iron Maiden cover)
5. Fast As A Shark (Accept cover)
6. No More Tears (Feat. Gus G.) (Ozzy Osbourne cover)
7. The Shining (Feat. Chris Caffery) (Black Sabbath cover)
8. A Light In The Black (Rainbow cover)
9. Kind Hearted Light (Feat. Roland Grapow) (Masterplan cover)
10. You Don’t Remember, I’ll Never Forget (Yngwie Malmsteen)
11. The Four Horsemen (Metallica)
12. Turbo Lover (Alternate Solo Version) (Judas Priest cover) Digital Bonus Track
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2022, 03:27:16 PM: How many of these songs were actually played on radio though? :lol

The tracklist is indeed interesting. The Masterplan choice obviously sticks out though. :lol Not sure why they didn't opt for a Time of the Oath or The Chance style track if they wanted Roland involved.

Saying all that, that Shining cover was okay, but I have no reason to listen to it again. Didn't like what Caffery did with the solos too. Shows how sublime Iommi's playing was back then.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2022, 03:28:29 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/jason-mcmaster-to-the-rescue-again-as-armored-saint-s-john-bush-forced-off-w-a-s-p-tour

Aftar just stepping in to help Accept, Jason McMaster now bails out Armored Saint.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2022, 04:49:05 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 15, 2022, 03:28:29 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/jason-mcmaster-to-the-rescue-again-as-armored-saint-s-john-bush-forced-off-w-a-s-p-tour

Aftar just stepping in to help Accept, Jason McMaster now bails out Armored Saint.

I have no idea who this guy is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on November 15, 2022, 06:29:18 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 15, 2022, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 15, 2022, 03:28:29 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/jason-mcmaster-to-the-rescue-again-as-armored-saint-s-john-bush-forced-off-w-a-s-p-tour

Aftar just stepping in to help Accept, Jason McMaster now bails out Armored Saint.

I have no idea who this guy is.

Is he the singer from Watchtower's first album? Or am I mixing names up?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2022, 06:34:20 PM: Quote from: nick_z on November 15, 2022, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: wolfking on November 15, 2022, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: TAC on November 15, 2022, 03:28:29 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/jason-mcmaster-to-the-rescue-again-as-armored-saint-s-john-bush-forced-off-w-a-s-p-tour

Aftar just stepping in to help Accept, Jason McMaster now bails out Armored Saint.

I have no idea who this guy is.

Is he the singer from Watchtower's first album? Or am I mixing names up?

Yes, he is, though I know him mostly from Dangerous Toys.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on November 26, 2022, 04:11:36 AM: Bit of an Aussie flavoured mashup for you Kade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJIIGpuuuYQ

Guitar solo should please you ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2022, 08:22:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on November 26, 2022, 04:11:36 AM
Bit of an Aussie flavoured mashup for you Kade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJIIGpuuuYQ

Guitar solo should please you ;D

I missed this but will check out tonight.

While I'm here, your inbox is full Mr popular!! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2022, 03:36:37 AM: Ha! I actually watched that a couple of weeks ago. How well Tiptons solo fits in there is quite scary truthfully.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on December 28, 2022, 01:35:39 PM: So I'm listening to Manowar's 80's and 90's material, after never feeling that I needed anything beyond Louder than Hell (THE GODS MADE HEAVY METAL... :metal).

I can't say that there's one album that I feel is truly necessary, but they definitely have some fun songs peppered throughout the albums. So far, I'm enjoying the Hell on Wheels live album the most, since it pulls most of those good songs together.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Zoom E on December 28, 2022, 03:19:50 PM: Quote from: Grappler on December 28, 2022, 01:35:39 PM
So I'm listening to Manowar's 80's and 90's material, after never feeling that I needed anything beyond Louder than Hell (THE GODS MADE HEAVY METAL... :metal).

I can't say that there's one album that I feel is truly necessary, but they definitely have some fun songs peppered throughout the albums. So far, I'm enjoying the Hell on Wheels live album the most, since it pulls most of those good songs together.

Hail to England and Sign of the Hammer are my favourites, though I haven’t listened to a lot of their later albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on December 28, 2022, 04:36:10 PM: Quote from: Zoom E on December 28, 2022, 03:19:50 PM
Quote from: Grappler on December 28, 2022, 01:35:39 PM
So I'm listening to Manowar's 80's and 90's material, after never feeling that I needed anything beyond Louder than Hell (THE GODS MADE HEAVY METAL... :metal).

I can't say that there's one album that I feel is truly necessary, but they definitely have some fun songs peppered throughout the albums. So far, I'm enjoying the Hell on Wheels live album the most, since it pulls most of those good songs together.

Hail to England and Sign of the Hammer are my favourites, though I haven’t listened to a lot of their later albums.

Hail To England is a perfect metal album, imo. The sound is thick, over-loud and distorted but it works. The songs are great. Viking battle glory, vampires, more battle slaughter, England and metal, metal fans, stupid bass solo, satanic worship. What's not to like? :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2023, 03:07:57 AM: Tim pimped us the Lightbringer if Sweden when their last album came out. I thought it was fantastic and go back to it quite often. Just noticed they have a new one that came up in my YouTube recs.

Haven't listened to it yet though myself.

https://youtu.be/xpmGCUELpmY
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2023, 03:51:05 AM: Nice. I'll give it a spin. They released a single from this very early last year, and I've been waiting for the album ever since!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2023, 03:58:42 AM: Yes!! I haven’t had a chance to spin the whole thing but dropping the needle on it, it’s quite easy on the ears.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on January 26, 2023, 09:34:27 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 26, 2023, 03:07:57 AM
Tim pimped us the Lightbringer if Sweden when their last album came out. I thought it was fantastic and go back to it quite often. Just noticed they have a new one that came up in my YouTube recs.

Haven't listened to it yet though myself.

https://youtu.be/xpmGCUELpmY

Holy shit. Pretty good first song (after the intro). I'll have to listen to this for real this weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2023, 03:35:30 AM: Quote from: Samsara on January 26, 2023, 09:34:27 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 26, 2023, 03:07:57 AM
Tim pimped us the Lightbringer if Sweden when their last album came out. I thought it was fantastic and go back to it quite often. Just noticed they have a new one that came up in my YouTube recs.

Haven't listened to it yet though myself.

https://youtu.be/xpmGCUELpmY

Holy shit. Pretty good first song (after the intro). I'll have to listen to this for real this weekend.

Check the first album if you haven't already Brian.
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Post by: Deathless on January 27, 2023, 02:40:49 PM: Hell yeah! That's a great share, thanks all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on January 27, 2023, 03:33:04 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 27, 2023, 03:35:30 AM
Quote from: Samsara on January 26, 2023, 09:34:27 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 26, 2023, 03:07:57 AM
Tim pimped us the Lightbringer if Sweden when their last album came out. I thought it was fantastic and go back to it quite often. Just noticed they have a new one that came up in my YouTube recs.

Haven't listened to it yet though myself.

https://youtu.be/xpmGCUELpmY

Holy shit. Pretty good first song (after the intro). I'll have to listen to this for real this weekend.

Check the first album if you haven't already Brian.

Will do.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TheSoylentMan on February 08, 2023, 01:20:36 PM: Here's something cool I found while thrifting today. :metal

I had no idea what Foundations Forum was; I'm doing my reading on it. Looks like the previous complation from '88 included a Majesty/DT track.

(https://i.imgur.com/zU9zjr2.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YTvOoLz.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2023, 03:31:55 PM: That's cool!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 08, 2023, 03:49:05 PM: Ditto - some real solid bands/songs on that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2023, 04:54:43 PM: Yeah, that's cool as fuck. There are some awful band names in there though. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2023, 05:14:15 PM: Quote from: wolfking on February 08, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Yeah, that's cool as fuck. There are some awful band names in there though. :lol

You mean, you don't want to go to the big Joy Thunder, Sleez Beez, Cherri Rocket show??
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2023, 03:07:06 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2023, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 08, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Yeah, that's cool as fuck. There are some awful band names in there though. :lol

You mean, you don't want to go to the big Joy Thunder, Sleez Beez, Cherri Rocket show??

No, because I'll already be at the Cats in Boots show with support act Toy Roz.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Deathless on February 09, 2023, 06:50:40 AM: It's wild to compare the industry then to what it is now. Back then you had major labels signing all these random rock and metal acts to deals. Today I doubt Elektra or anyone will touch you unless you're already a platinum-selling artist/group.

Very cool share.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TheSoylentMan on February 09, 2023, 08:03:40 AM: Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2023, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 08, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Yeah, that's cool as fuck. There are some awful band names in there though. :lol

You mean, you don't want to go to the big Joy Thunder, Sleez Beez, Cherri Rocket show??

LOL I know. I showed this to my brother and we had a good laugh about some of band names. Sleez Beez :lol

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffaculty.mercer.edu%2Fglance_jc%2FENG_380_web_projects%2Fparker_j%2Fimages%2Fband1.jpg&hash=1424b58d6fa653a18f5698121bba2f47e1e385af)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on February 21, 2023, 04:45:52 AM: Good to hear that Dave Meniketti has been given the :tup after his prostate cancer treatment and is in remission :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2023, 04:48:12 AM: That's beautiful news. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2023, 03:03:45 PM: Coming soon...........................Tim's been waiting almost a decade for this :metal

(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2023/wingersevencd323.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2023, 03:11:50 PM: (https://media.tenor.com/56BtgkAzmBgAAAAM/itshappening.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2023, 03:12:27 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2023, 03:54:33 PM: :o YES MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/4ecc880f9819244a5f2c4b58b1f9aef2/tenor.gif?itemid=8508476)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2023, 04:02:05 PM: (https://media.gq.com/photos/5d8a96dbc2728e0008cca373/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/04-antonio-banderas-interview-gq-september-2019-093019.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 28, 2023, 08:30:00 PM: Found an old home movie from when Wolfking was a little kid..

https://youtube.com/shorts/yI3j6npHZG4?feature=share
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2023, 04:44:56 AM: Quote from: TAC on March 28, 2023, 08:30:00 PM
Found an old home movie from when Wolfking was a little kid..

https://youtube.com/shorts/yI3j6npHZG4?feature=share

I never got to pet that fucking goat! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 29, 2023, 07:13:43 AM: It‘s not a goat, it‘s a goit, whatever that is. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 29, 2023, 07:15:06 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on March 29, 2023, 07:13:43 AM
It‘s not a goat, it‘s a goit, whatever that is. ;)

I dunno, but you could probably have it lanced.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on March 29, 2023, 04:21:11 PM: I stumbled onto this the other week. Absolutely excellent, afaic. Tons of early Maiden worship and fun to be had.

https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw (https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on March 29, 2023, 04:41:05 PM: Quote from: DoctorAction on March 29, 2023, 04:21:11 PM
I stumbled onto this the other week. Absolutely excellent, afaic. Tons of early Maiden worship and fun to be had.

https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw (https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw)

I remember checking them out a few years back and yeah.........they have some good stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on March 29, 2023, 07:43:19 PM: Quote from: DoctorAction on March 29, 2023, 04:21:11 PM
I stumbled onto this the other week. Absolutely excellent, afaic. Tons of early Maiden worship and fun to be had.

https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw (https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw)

Yes! Audrey Horne! Great band...I've sung their praises more than once here on DTF...

This last album of theirs definitely upped the Maiden and NWOBHM influence, but their more recent few are generally very classic rock/metal-oriented. Check out in particular Youngblood and Pure Heavy, they are fantastic.

If you want something a little weirder/more unique, go back a little further and try Le Fol (their second album) and the self-titled (their third)...there is some Faith No More/alternative influence creeping in on those. All good stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on March 30, 2023, 12:20:08 AM: Nice. :smiley: Will definitely check more. The whole Devil's Bell album is a hugely satisfying chunk of heavy cheese.

I expect it to be up there with my personal favourite in this category, Spidergawd: https://youtu.be/x6zpDIyb85I (https://youtu.be/x6zpDIyb85I)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2023, 05:06:42 AM: Quote from: DoctorAction on March 29, 2023, 04:21:11 PM
I stumbled onto this the other week. Absolutely excellent, afaic. Tons of early Maiden worship and fun to be had.

https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw (https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw)

This should appeal to me, but it didn't. Didn't like that at all.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 30, 2023, 07:07:17 AM: Quote from: wolfking on March 30, 2023, 05:06:42 AM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 29, 2023, 04:21:11 PM
I stumbled onto this the other week. Absolutely excellent, afaic. Tons of early Maiden worship and fun to be had.

https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw (https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw)

This should appeal to me, but it didn't. Didn't like that at all.

I'm with ya. That was bland as shit. Mind you, I'm just coming off of listening to one of the greatest prog-metal albums of all time (and a Top 10 fave of mine), so my ears may be biased a bit at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 30, 2023, 07:36:35 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 30, 2023, 07:07:17 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 30, 2023, 05:06:42 AM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 29, 2023, 04:21:11 PM
I stumbled onto this the other week. Absolutely excellent, afaic. Tons of early Maiden worship and fun to be had.

https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw (https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw)

This should appeal to me, but it didn't. Didn't like that at all.

I'm with ya. That was bland as shit. Mind you, I'm just coming off of listening to one of the greatest prog-metal albums of all time (and a Top 10 fave of mine), so my ears may be biased a bit at the moment.

Speaking of bland as shit….

;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on March 30, 2023, 07:43:56 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 30, 2023, 07:07:17 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 30, 2023, 05:06:42 AM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 29, 2023, 04:21:11 PM
I stumbled onto this the other week. Absolutely excellent, afaic. Tons of early Maiden worship and fun to be had.

https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw (https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw)

This should appeal to me, but it didn't. Didn't like that at all.

I'm with ya. That was bland as shit. Mind you, I'm just coming off of listening to one of the greatest prog-metal albums of all time (and a Top 10 fave of mine), so my ears may be biased a bit at the moment.

Fair play. Tastes is tastes. :smiley:

EDIT: Did you get as far as the instrumental break just before the 3 min mark, out of interest? Might be the piece of music that's made me nod my head the hardest this year. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 30, 2023, 08:28:56 AM: Quote from: DoctorAction on March 30, 2023, 07:43:56 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 30, 2023, 07:07:17 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 30, 2023, 05:06:42 AM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 29, 2023, 04:21:11 PM
I stumbled onto this the other week. Absolutely excellent, afaic. Tons of early Maiden worship and fun to be had.

https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw (https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw)

This should appeal to me, but it didn't. Didn't like that at all.

I'm with ya. That was bland as shit. Mind you, I'm just coming off of listening to one of the greatest prog-metal albums of all time (and a Top 10 fave of mine), so my ears may be biased a bit at the moment.

Fair play. Tastes is tastes. :smiley:

EDIT: Did you get as far as the instrumental break just before the 3 min mark, out of interest? Might be the piece of music that's made me nod my head the hardest this year. :metal

I hadn't, so I just went back to it. It was better than the verses and chorus, but still largely uneventful for these ears. TASTES^TM!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: DoctorAction on March 30, 2023, 09:09:50 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on March 30, 2023, 08:28:56 AM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 30, 2023, 07:43:56 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on March 30, 2023, 07:07:17 AM
Quote from: wolfking on March 30, 2023, 05:06:42 AM
Quote from: DoctorAction on March 29, 2023, 04:21:11 PM
I stumbled onto this the other week. Absolutely excellent, afaic. Tons of early Maiden worship and fun to be had.

https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw (https://youtu.be/IehkMkrIEbw)

This should appeal to me, but it didn't. Didn't like that at all.

I'm with ya. That was bland as shit. Mind you, I'm just coming off of listening to one of the greatest prog-metal albums of all time (and a Top 10 fave of mine), so my ears may be biased a bit at the moment.

Fair play. Tastes is tastes. :smiley:

EDIT: Did you get as far as the instrumental break just before the 3 min mark, out of interest? Might be the piece of music that's made me nod my head the hardest this year. :metal

I hadn't, so I just went back to it. It was better than the verses and chorus, but still largely uneventful for these ears. TASTES^TM!!!

;D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2023, 06:53:02 PM: Due to popular demand ( repeated calls to the promoter by some guy who goes by the name "Mr Crowley") Queensryche have announced:

(https://scontent.fmel7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/339931851_750285523170617_782546739486254868_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=bV0RefczGh8AX-Z12S-&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel7-1.fna&oh=00_AfCJNoHx7VnEjn0Y9pSxmXZa0r8XELY-jFboFMkiQAA8gQ&oe=643200E9)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 04, 2023, 06:57:49 PM: A fucking water park! :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2023, 07:19:02 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 04, 2023, 06:57:49 PM
A fucking water park! :rollin :rollin :rollin

Maybe that's so you can listen to Queensryche and then go for a scuba while Winger are playing Tim.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:20:21 PM: Wait.....WTF?! :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 04, 2023, 07:20:33 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 04, 2023, 07:19:02 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 04, 2023, 06:57:49 PM
A fucking water park! :rollin :rollin :rollin

Maybe that's so you can listen to Queensryche and then go for a scuba while Winger are playing Tim.

I'm gonna need a big rubber

raft.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:22:18 PM: Why is there 5 guys in Winger? Who is the guy on the right? I didn't know Joe was now a member!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:24:10 PM: And Grillo looks like Eddie's son who he had to drag out of his bedroom that he hasn't left for 3 months just for a photo.

Good to see Stone carrying the vest over from the Tate days. Lose the cowboy hat though mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2023, 07:28:35 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:22:18 PM
Why is there 5 guys in Winger? Who is the guy on the right? I didn't know Joe was now a member!

Paul Taylor ain't it? So it's original members plus John Roth.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:30:26 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 04, 2023, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:22:18 PM
Why is there 5 guys in Winger? Who is the guy on the right? I didn't know Joe was now a member!

Paul Taylor ain't it?

It is?! Jesus, how long has he been back?

EDIT: 2018 according to wiki!

Actually I remember seeing him in that new video. Man, looks....different. That's cool though, nice lineup.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2023, 07:33:02 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 04, 2023, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:22:18 PM
Why is there 5 guys in Winger? Who is the guy on the right? I didn't know Joe was now a member!

Paul Taylor ain't it?

It is?! Jesus, how long has he been back?

EDIT: 2018 according to wiki!

Actually I remember seeing him in that new video. Man, looks....different. That's cool though, nice lineup.

He hasn't played on the last couple of albums but I think has been touring with them for the better part of the last decade....... His looks have changed a lot more than the others yeah
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 04, 2023, 07:34:22 PM: You guys are officially in the wrong thread.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:34:35 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 04, 2023, 07:33:02 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 04, 2023, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:22:18 PM
Why is there 5 guys in Winger? Who is the guy on the right? I didn't know Joe was now a member!

Paul Taylor ain't it?

It is?! Jesus, how long has he been back?

EDIT: 2018 according to wiki!

Actually I remember seeing him in that new video. Man, looks....different. That's cool though, nice lineup.

He hasn't played on the last couple of albums but I think has been touring with them for the better part of the last decade....... His looks have changed a lot more than the others yeah

Yeah, crazy that the last album was 9 years ago! No wonder I had no idea then. Don't keep up with bands these days unless it's for a new release.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:34:50 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 04, 2023, 07:34:22 PM
You guys are officially in the wrong thread.

Actually, it seems you are.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 04, 2023, 07:35:34 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 04, 2023, 07:34:22 PM
You guys are officially in the wrong thread.

Actually, it seems you are.

:blush

Someone let me know when it's safe to come back. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:41:44 PM: :lol

Hey, you're the Mr Crowley that kept ringing the promotor it seems! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 04, 2023, 07:43:20 PM: What went on in my head?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2023, 07:48:04 PM: What will Queensryche play? I mean, Winger could come up with a pretty decent set of older cheesy stuff that could kinda go along with the whole water theme environment but not sure about Queensryche.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on April 05, 2023, 06:16:27 AM: I have an interview with Kip Winger tomorrow. Will try yo ask about this show. I've only seen Winger with Mr. Big - a much better fit, in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on April 05, 2023, 07:07:48 AM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on April 05, 2023, 06:16:27 AM
I have an interview with Kip Winger tomorrow. Will try yo ask about this show. I've only seen Winger with Mr. Big - a much better fit, in my opinion.

Ask him who he thinks has been the biggest thorn in Winger's side over the course of their career :

A) Beavis & Butthead
B) Lars
C) TAC
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 05, 2023, 07:40:28 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 05, 2023, 07:07:48 AM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on April 05, 2023, 06:16:27 AM
I have an interview with Kip Winger tomorrow. Will try yo ask about this show. I've only seen Winger with Mr. Big - a much better fit, in my opinion.

Ask him who he thinks has been the biggest thorn in Winger's side over the course of their career :

A) Beavis & Butthead
B) Lars
C) TAC

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2023, 02:26:38 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 05, 2023, 07:07:48 AM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on April 05, 2023, 06:16:27 AM
I have an interview with Kip Winger tomorrow. Will try yo ask about this show. I've only seen Winger with Mr. Big - a much better fit, in my opinion.

Ask him who he thinks has been the biggest thorn in Winger's side over the course of their career :

A) Beavis & Butthead
B) Lars
C) TAC

Not really a fair matchup for Lars and B&B. They have no chance.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on April 05, 2023, 02:31:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2023, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on April 05, 2023, 07:07:48 AM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on April 05, 2023, 06:16:27 AM
I have an interview with Kip Winger tomorrow. Will try yo ask about this show. I've only seen Winger with Mr. Big - a much better fit, in my opinion.

Ask him who he thinks has been the biggest thorn in Winger's side over the course of their career :

A) Beavis & Butthead
B) Lars
C) TAC

Not really a fair matchup for Lars and B&B. They have no chance.

Agreed!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2023, 05:37:06 PM: I'd like to know a little more on why it took 9 years for this album to come out. I'm guessing COVID and all that will be the standard answer but even though there was still 5 years between Karma and Better Days, they seemed to be on a bit of a roll.

I'd also like to know if they have thought about the 9 year gap in relation to the next album. Would be nice to see them get on a bit of a roll with a few more albums late in their career.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on April 05, 2023, 07:20:51 PM: New song from Sacred Outcry, "The Voyage", with Daniel Heiman on vocals (I know there are a few fans here :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GlXopKZ6sw
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2023, 07:33:07 PM: Quote from: nick_z on April 05, 2023, 07:20:51 PM
New song from Sacred Outcry, "The Voyage", with Daniel Heiman on vocals (I know there are a few fans here :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GlXopKZ6sw

Oh hell yes! Awesome tune, and I'll be all over this.

Along those lines, here's the new song from Ashrain, featuring Iuri Sanson from the old Hibria albums on vocals.
Pater Baltes from Accept on bass, and Nozomu Wakai on guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCM7sqpJC4o

Album out April 14th!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on April 05, 2023, 08:12:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2023, 07:33:07 PM

Oh hell yes! Awesome tune, and I'll be all over this.

Their first album was pretty awesome, so I am excited about this!

Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2023, 07:33:07 PM
Along those lines, here's the new song from Ashrain, featuring Iuri Sanson from the old Hibria albums on vocals.
Pater Baltes from Accept on bass, and Nozomu Wakai on guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCM7sqpJC4o

Album out April 14th!

Huh, I have no knowledge of any of this ;D Anything I should be checking out from Hibria?

THAT bass in the song, by the way! Baltes certainly made sure he could be heard :biggrin: Good stuff!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2023, 08:17:50 PM: Quote from: nick_z on April 05, 2023, 08:12:00 PM
Huh, I have no knowledge of any of this ;D Anything I should be checking out from Hibria?

THAT bass in the song, by the way! Baltes certainly made sure he could be heard :biggrin: Good stuff!

Their first two albums are amazing. Oh, and speaking of bass, the bass player absolutely slays!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Defying_the_Rules_cover.jpg/220px-Defying_the_Rules_cover.jpg)

https://open.spotify.com/album/26hAPfcrj7QNjthBsL69Vb?si=ekSQfh_wSvKnvP4oVGOaqw

(https://i.discogs.com/XVzd1x8x_MCjkJdtis1spll69orxphL-UGzVrEPRxas/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:595/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE0Njc0/NDQyLTE1NzkzODIz/MTQtOTcxMy5qcGVn.jpeg)

https://open.spotify.com/album/77fg9J2NUBnEBM2syylkSG?si=uCy9XpMXQNqqv50VbcmJag

Here's a quick hit..Millenium Quest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIrdtkmMFjs
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on April 06, 2023, 04:41:23 AM: Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2023, 08:17:50 PM

Their first two albums are amazing. Oh, and speaking of bass, the bass player absolutely slays!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Defying_the_Rules_cover.jpg/220px-Defying_the_Rules_cover.jpg)

https://open.spotify.com/album/26hAPfcrj7QNjthBsL69Vb?si=ekSQfh_wSvKnvP4oVGOaqw

(https://i.discogs.com/XVzd1x8x_MCjkJdtis1spll69orxphL-UGzVrEPRxas/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:595/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE0Njc0/NDQyLTE1NzkzODIz/MTQtOTcxMy5qcGVn.jpeg)

https://open.spotify.com/album/77fg9J2NUBnEBM2syylkSG?si=uCy9XpMXQNqqv50VbcmJag

Here's a quick hit..Millenium Quest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIrdtkmMFjs

Nice! I’ll check these out…
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2023, 06:16:20 AM: Quote from: nick_z on April 05, 2023, 07:20:51 PM
New song from Sacred Outcry, "The Voyage", with Daniel Heiman on vocals (I know there are a few fans here :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GlXopKZ6sw

That was really nice. Haven't liked much of what he's done since LH (not that there's a lot) but that could be the nicest I've heard since.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2023, 06:17:39 AM: Tim sent me Millennium Quest in a roulette years ago, great song. Still haven't followed this band up much. Although the song Tiger Punch is sweet. Whatever the fuck a Tiger punch is.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on April 06, 2023, 06:36:19 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 05, 2023, 05:37:06 PM
I'd like to know a little more on why it took 9 years for this album to come out. I'm guessing COVID and all that will be the standard answer but even though there was still 5 years between Karma and Better Days, they seemed to be on a bit of a roll.

I'd also like to know if they have thought about the 9 year gap in relation to the next album. Would be nice to see them get on a bit of a roll with a few more albums late in their career.

This will be my first question.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 06, 2023, 11:50:28 AM: Oh the drama in Motley Crue :lol

https://blabbermouth.net/news/mick-mars-sues-motley-crue-over-tour-profits-says-all-of-nikki-sixxs-bass-tracks-on-the-stadium-tour-were-pre-recorded (https://blabbermouth.net/news/mick-mars-sues-motley-crue-over-tour-profits-says-all-of-nikki-sixxs-bass-tracks-on-the-stadium-tour-were-pre-recorded)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on April 06, 2023, 12:02:36 PM: I am tending to believe Mick - he was never one for the limelight and just did his job and then went home while the others all ended up on TMZ.
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Post by: cramx3 on April 06, 2023, 01:33:37 PM: Quote from: Grappler on April 06, 2023, 12:02:36 PM
I am tending to believe Mick - he was never one for the limelight and just did his job and then went home while the others all ended up on TMZ.

Yeah, I lean towards Mick as well. This came up recently when Carmine Appice spoke (seemingly on behalf of Mick) that Motley Crue's show was not live and Nikki's response to it made me think it was the truth (ignoring the comment and blaming the media). Now Mick basically is confirming that what Carmine said.

Honestly seems legit. I was wondering if Nikki was playing at all when I last saw them, but since VInce Neal sounds so bad, I couldn't really fathom how they'd not be playing live and let Vince sound that bad :lol The whole band seems like a shit show at the moment.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on April 06, 2023, 07:26:40 PM: I'm with Mick as well. Too many of his friends have pretty much corroborated what the lawsuit is saying.

I feel bad for John 5. Such an amazing musician who literally has no business being there but is now tied up in this mess. By no business, I feel it is a huge waste of his talent, and I actually like Motley Crue.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on April 06, 2023, 07:46:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 06, 2023, 06:16:20 AM
Quote from: nick_z on April 05, 2023, 07:20:51 PM
New song from Sacred Outcry, "The Voyage", with Daniel Heiman on vocals (I know there are a few fans here :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GlXopKZ6sw

That was really nice. Haven't liked much of what he's done since LH (not that there's a lot) but that could be the nicest I've heard since.

What did you think of the Dimhav album (The Boreal Flame) that came out in 2019? I haven't revisited it in a while...I remember it was a little "much" , but I was mildly intrigued...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 06, 2023, 08:14:34 PM: Quote from: nick_z on April 06, 2023, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: wolfking on April 06, 2023, 06:16:20 AM
Quote from: nick_z on April 05, 2023, 07:20:51 PM
New song from Sacred Outcry, "The Voyage", with Daniel Heiman on vocals (I know there are a few fans here :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GlXopKZ6sw

That was really nice. Haven't liked much of what he's done since LH (not that there's a lot) but that could be the nicest I've heard since.

What did you think of the Dimhav album (The Boreal Flame) that came out in 2019? I haven't revisited it in a while...I remember it was a little "much" , but I was mildly intrigued...

Both the Dimhav and Warrior Path albums are pretty good. I mean, they'll never match the magic of Lost Horizon, but if you need a Daniel Heiman fix, they're more than enjoyable.
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Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2023, 08:44:51 PM: Never heard of Dimhav to be honest lads, I'll check them out! The Warrior Path was okay but was just solid and pretty generic to me. Didn't have much time for them.
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Post by: Anguyen92 on April 07, 2023, 11:30:23 AM: Oh, you guys are already talking about the Motley Crue drama? Well, since Mars filed the lawsuit, Motley Crue naturally stated that what Mars says is false because of whatever reasons they stated.

https://loudwire.com/motley-crue-statement-mick-mars-lawsuit/

Mars since then counter-stated their statement. I liked that Loudwire used this line in their title of the article, "I Carried Those Bastards for Years."

https://loudwire.com/mick-mars-blasts-motley-crue-carried-those-bastards-years-interview/

I'm more to incline to believe Mars because even long before he was removed from the band, he seemed to be the only likable person in the band and the best musician of the bunch (and I like Sixx due to his work in Sixx: A.M., but his ego when it comes to certain things is hard to get over.).
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Post by: DoctorAction on April 08, 2023, 12:20:38 AM: *flush*

That's better.

EDIT: directed at the band, not the post 🙂
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Post by: RodrigoAltaf on April 10, 2023, 05:51:55 PM: Here's the Kip Winger interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHe7l03QxZI&t=5s
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2023, 06:15:08 AM: https://youtu.be/7zig9QIpc9Q

New Fifth Angel. Not bad.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on April 14, 2023, 09:20:48 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 14, 2023, 06:15:08 AM
https://youtu.be/7zig9QIpc9Q

New Fifth Angel. Not bad.

Oh man...I hope they find a way for this band to be more "continuous", for lack of a better word. Their comeback album from 2018 is KILLER!
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Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2023, 09:24:18 AM: That's a pretty solid song - good to see Stratovarius' CGI guy keeps getting work too
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 14, 2023, 10:25:12 AM: Quote from: wolfking on April 14, 2023, 06:15:08 AM
https://youtu.be/7zig9QIpc9Q

New Fifth Angel. Not bad.

Not familiar with them, but solid song :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 14, 2023, 02:05:15 PM: Good song. Obviously a completely different sound from their first two albums in the 80s. They didn't go retro, and sounds like a continuation of the third album. Steve is a really good vocalist too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on April 14, 2023, 02:22:23 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on April 14, 2023, 10:25:12 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 14, 2023, 06:15:08 AM
https://youtu.be/7zig9QIpc9Q

New Fifth Angel. Not bad.

Not familiar with them, but solid song :metal

They were swept away by grunge, and came back in 2018, after playing twice on the Keep It True Festival in Germany. This festival is famous for resurrecting small metal acts from the 80s. One of their albums from the early 90's was produced by Terry Brown.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2023, 03:09:13 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on April 14, 2023, 09:24:18 AM
That's a pretty solid song - good to see Stratovarius' CGI guy keeps getting work too

:lol Outstanding and on point!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 17, 2023, 10:20:38 AM: Fans of the old tv show, VH1's That Metal Show, might be happy to learn the three guys (Eddie Trunk, Don Jamieson, and Jim Florentine) just announced a new weekly show on youtube called "That Rocks" where they will be talking rock and metal. I'd guess it will be more like a podcast than the original show though
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Post by: TAC on May 04, 2023, 12:19:09 PM: https://bravewords.com/news/withering-scorn-feat-former-megadeth-king-diamond-fates-warning-members-announce-debut-album-prophets-of-demise-title-track-lyric-video-posted

Interesting lineup for this. The linked track is..solid. A shame this is a Frontiers release, but this will definitely get a listen when it's released.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 04, 2023, 01:57:05 PM: Solid. Reminds me a bit of post Carl Albert Vicious Rumors.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2023, 06:06:29 AM: Pretty much Eidolon. Very cool, I liked that.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on May 10, 2023, 06:58:13 PM: Another song from the upcoming Sacred Outcry album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS42Mn1mfEU

Pretty tasty power metal...and Heiman's vocals are quite insane...Looking forward to the full album, for sure.

(Is it me, or you can almost sing Paint It, Black over the first line in each verse? ;))
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Post by: TAC on May 10, 2023, 07:03:43 PM: I watched that video the other day but it kicked my ass so much I didn't have the strength to post about it. :lol

The track is the closest thing I've heard him do to Lost Horizon yet. And what an absolutely gorgeous lyric video.

I cannot wait for this album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on May 10, 2023, 07:10:50 PM: :tup

And absolutely yes to the lyric video...beautiful-looking stuff. In fact, the CD is supposed to have a 24-page booklet with the whole story...if the art is that good, I am tempted...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 10, 2023, 07:19:30 PM: Quote from: nick_z on May 10, 2023, 07:10:50 PM
:tup

And absolutely yes to the lyric video...beautiful-looking stuff. In fact, the CD is supposed to have a 24-page booklet with the whole story...if the art is that good, I am tempted...

I'll buy that!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2023, 08:46:08 PM: Quote from: TAC on May 10, 2023, 07:03:43 PM
I watched that video the other day but it kicked my ass so much I didn't have the strength to post about it. :lol

The track is the closest thing I've heard him do to Lost Horizon yet. And what an absolutely gorgeous lyric video.

I cannot wait for this album.

Can't wait to check this out tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2023, 09:23:55 PM: As a rule I prefer my power metal to not be a one paced double-kick drumathon (I generally prefer the slower , crunchier tracks from Euro power metal) , but I did enjoy that. And Heiman has lost little if any of his vocal prowess which is cool. Having said that , if the whole album was that pace I'd struggle to last it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on May 11, 2023, 05:05:13 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on May 10, 2023, 09:23:55 PM
As a rule I prefer my power metal to not be a one paced double-kick drumathon (I generally prefer the slower , crunchier tracks from Euro power metal) , but I did enjoy that. And Heiman has lost little if any of his vocal prowess which is cool. Having said that , if the whole album was that pace I'd struggle to last it out.

I’m with you on that, in general. Sacred Outcry’s debut definitely wasn’t all helicopter double-kick so I doubt this one will be that way.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2023, 06:12:43 AM: Quote from: nick_z on May 10, 2023, 06:58:13 PM
Another song from the upcoming Sacred Outcry album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS42Mn1mfEU

Pretty tasty power metal...and Heiman's vocals are quite insane...Looking forward to the full album, for sure.

(Is it me, or you can almost sing Paint It, Black over the first line in each verse? ;))

Oh yeah, I can get around this, very nice.

I see the whole album has already been uploaded to YouTube 2 hours ago!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2023, 07:04:44 PM: Released 39 years ago today (11th May............US time) :lol

(https://scontent.fmel7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/346485715_582941106987837_5696698740078414766_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=O8D-CB3MHEMAX_xJGVC&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel7-1.fna&oh=00_AfBkcS4pcXs-apCA3mG61rii8OAX0JAnqtgRajdFZnfDwQ&oe=6462D36A)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2023, 07:24:09 PM: I still have my picture disc 45 of it.
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Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2023, 09:46:32 PM: :metal

What a prude bitch. Feel sorry for her husband, his sex life was obviously very dull if he even had one.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2023, 07:44:00 AM: Didn’t Dee Snider take Tippy to town during a testimony
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on May 12, 2023, 11:43:04 AM: (https://metal-digest.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Silver-Bullet-Shadowfall-Cover.png)

Had mentioned this a couple months ago in the Listening thread. This is power metal from Finland, quite melodic but with enough heft (at least for the genre). It has sort of unassumingly found a pretty stable spot in my listening this year. Had it on today and I figured the people frequenting this thread might enjoy it too. The vocals, the playing, the production and the melodies are all very good. Nothing particularly new, but lots of nice flavors - from Avantasia (the chorus in The Ones to Fall!), Blind Guardian (Soul Reaver) and Priest (Nighthunter), plus more than a bit of Stratovarius. Pretty much every song works quite nicely.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on May 12, 2023, 11:49:09 AM: Sounds like something I might like from your description, I'll have to check it out
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2023, 03:37:09 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 12, 2023, 07:44:00 AM
Didn’t Dee Snider take Tippy to town during a testimony

Probably fucked her like a beast that she didn't know what hit her.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2023, 03:40:30 PM: Quote from: wolfking on May 12, 2023, 03:37:09 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 12, 2023, 07:44:00 AM
Didn’t Dee Snider take Tippy to town during a testimony

Probably fucked her like a beast that she didn't know what hit her.

ultimate L.OV.E. Machine
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2023, 03:42:28 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on May 12, 2023, 03:40:30 PM
Quote from: wolfking on May 12, 2023, 03:37:09 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on May 12, 2023, 07:44:00 AM
Didn’t Dee Snider take Tippy to town during a testimony

Probably fucked her like a beast that she didn't know what hit her.

ultimate L.OV.E. Machine

Absolute Wild Child. Would have fucked her until The Flame burnt out.
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2023, 03:44:01 PM: lol ok horn dog, I'll tap out before things get out of control
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2023, 03:47:04 PM: Again, full respect Wolf if you decide to take meth and begin Running Wild in the Streets
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Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2023, 06:21:21 PM: I'm a Hellion mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2023, 09:20:47 PM: :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 13, 2023, 05:44:29 AM: Quote from: cramx3 on May 12, 2023, 11:49:09 AM
Sounds like something I might like from your description, I'll have to check it out

Ditto!
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Post by: wolfking on June 10, 2023, 06:00:47 AM: Cracking new Iron Savior song;

https://youtu.be/Jyfb0iONIXA
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 10, 2023, 06:31:55 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 10, 2023, 06:00:47 AM
Cracking new Iron Savior song;

https://youtu.be/Jyfb0iONIXA

I watched that yesterday. Sounds like…Iron Savior. ;D

I really liked it!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 10, 2023, 06:37:08 AM: Stumbled across this yesterday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F2nTmozlfs

Elegant Weapons / Horns For A Halo

Before ya'll crap on the fact it's Romero on the mic, the rest of the band is worthy of this thread...
Richie Faulkner (Priest) – guitars
Dave Rimmer (Uriah Heep) – bass
Christopher Williams (Accept) – drums
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 10, 2023, 06:13:58 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 10, 2023, 06:31:55 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 10, 2023, 06:00:47 AM
Cracking new Iron Savior song;

https://youtu.be/Jyfb0iONIXA

I watched that yesterday. Sounds like…Iron Savior. ;D

I really liked it!

Yep, but thankfully, I don't expect anything out of the box from a band like this, I just love everything they do. The chorus on this one is stunning.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 10, 2023, 07:42:45 PM: stunning??? The only thing I remember from this band is a solid cover of Desert Plains. stunning???
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Post by: TAC on June 10, 2023, 07:43:49 PM: It stuns.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 10, 2023, 07:45:05 PM: I'm stunned beyond belief
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Post by: TAC on June 10, 2023, 07:45:28 PM: Believe it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 10, 2023, 07:46:45 PM: I'm solidly stunned
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 10, 2023, 08:00:31 PM: Wolfster hopefully You are Losing More Than You've Ever Had and going Balls to The Wall with that proclamation of a statement.
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Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2023, 04:18:07 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 10, 2023, 07:42:45 PM
stunning??? The only thing I remember from this band is a solid cover of Desert Plains. stunning???

Im stunned that you are questioning me J.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 11, 2023, 06:32:12 AM: No no never questioning. Iron Savior just seems pretty generic to me
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Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2023, 02:26:49 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 11, 2023, 06:32:12 AM
No no never questioning. Iron Savior just seems pretty generic to me

Haha was joking mate.

Iron Savior are definitely generic but dependable. I guess what got me into them heavily was the Kai Hansen factor. As a band that's had so many albums now though, they hold up pretty damn well.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on June 12, 2023, 08:16:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 04, 2023, 06:57:49 PM
A fucking water park! :rollin :rollin :rollin

Hey Tim..............you're not gonna believe this but they've topped it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/N0NkzYLt/qr1.png)

Canataloupe Festival :rollin :rollin
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Post by: Grappler on June 12, 2023, 08:24:20 PM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 12, 2023, 08:16:23 PM
Canataloupe Festival :rollin :rollin

I saw that today and my only response was :facepalm:

They look mean and metal as fuck in that picture, yet....a cantaloupe festival. ???
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 12, 2023, 08:47:52 PM: Concert is over by 8, fans are back home and in bed by 9
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Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2023, 04:53:53 AM: Can I get a free cantaloupe if I attend?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 13, 2023, 05:26:26 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on June 12, 2023, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: TAC on April 04, 2023, 06:57:49 PM
A fucking water park! :rollin :rollin :rollin

Hey Tim..............you're not gonna believe this but they've topped it.

Canataloupe Festival :rollin :rollin

WTF :lol

Did you guys see who was opening?

(https://previews.123rf.com/images/lisafx/lisafx1210/lisafx121000046/15844236-sweet-grandmother-in-vintage-apron-holding-a-delicious-homemade-cherry-pie.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2023, 05:37:42 AM: I heard she does a killer version of Cherry Pie......
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 13, 2023, 02:34:24 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 12, 2023, 08:47:52 PM
Concert is over by 8, fans are back home and in bed by 9

lol sounds like Del Boca Vista
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Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2023, 10:21:45 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 13, 2023, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on June 12, 2023, 08:47:52 PM
Concert is over by 8, fans are back home and in bed by 9

lol sounds like Del Boca Vista

:lol Outstanding!
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Post by: Lowdz on June 14, 2023, 01:37:52 PM: Hey dudes. How we all doing?
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Post by: TAC on June 14, 2023, 01:59:35 PM: PAUL!!!!

Someone hijacked your account in the album thread and was posting some wussy music. ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on June 14, 2023, 02:01:54 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 14, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
PAUL!!!!

Someone hijacked your account in the album thread and was posting some wussy music. ;D

:lol

Gotta make the most of sunny days here. We don’t have many. You cleaned your ears out and stopped listening to that growls shit yet? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 14, 2023, 02:02:42 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 14, 2023, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 14, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
PAUL!!!!

Someone hijacked your account in the album thread and was posting some wussy music. ;D

:lol

Gotta make the most of sunny days here. We don’t have many. You cleaned your ears out and stopped listening to that growls shit yet? :lol

What? Speak up!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2023, 06:43:14 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on June 14, 2023, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 14, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
PAUL!!!!

Someone hijacked your account in the album thread and was posting some wussy music. ;D

:lol

Gotta make the most of sunny days here. We don’t have many. You cleaned your ears out and stopped listening to that growls shit yet? :lol

You're going to be disappointed my friend.

How are you, how is your health?
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 17, 2023, 06:29:44 AM: Lowder!! Nice to see you back here.

Quote from: wolfking on June 14, 2023, 06:43:14 PM
How are you, how is your health?

Been thinking about that as well. Saw some FB posts recently, you look good and happy. :tup

Also, figured this was the place to drop these. Albums came out recently.

Fifth Angel - When Angels Kill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zig9QIpc9Q). Really good. And a big album at 72 minutes. Seems to be a concept album with a lot of spoken dialogue leading in and out of the tunes.

The Silent Rage - Nuances of Life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN9lQ_It6eA). Wasn't quite my thing - more of a Priest/Judicator/Manimal sound. A little too screamy for me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 17, 2023, 05:21:51 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on June 17, 2023, 06:29:44 AM
Also, figured this was the place to drop these. Albums came out recently.

Fifth Angel - When Angels Kill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zig9QIpc9Q). Really good. And a big album at 72 minutes. Seems to be a concept album with a lot of spoken dialogue leading in and out of the tunes.

The Silent Rage - Nuances of Life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN9lQ_It6eA). Wasn't quite my thing - more of a Priest/Judicator/Manimal sound. A little too screamy for me.

The Fifth Angel is tasty. Got halfway through it yesterday, but I just ran out of time to allot to it. I'll be revisiting for sure.

I had dropped the needle on The Silent Rage a week or so ago. I thought it sounded pretty damn solid. Reminded me of Iced Earth. I didn't end up saving it in Spotify though.

If you want to check out some solid clean vocal new metal, check this one out:
Project Roenwolfe
https://open.spotify.com/album/3A7zt311kmk4snke1C3ZwL?si=X_HvvYnVQg2xMJLusSL2qg

Has the Theocracy drummer on it. I don't love the first song, but the album is pretty good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on June 17, 2023, 06:00:35 PM: That Fifth Angel is really good. The band has entered the level of Primal Fear for heaviness. Not a fan of spoken dialogue but still an impressive release. Nothing they can ever release will obviously touch those first two albums for me though.
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Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2023, 06:03:13 PM: I'll be sure to get onto that this week. The last album was top notch so interested in seeing what they have up their sleeve this time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 17, 2023, 06:05:33 PM: Get rid of the spoken dialogue and condense it a song or two, already much better IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 18, 2023, 05:08:25 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on June 17, 2023, 06:05:33 PM
Get rid of the spoken dialogue and condense it a song or two, already much better IMO.

See, I'm totally fine with it. I love me my concept albums, so the dialogue doesn't irk me at all.

@Tim... I'll check out that Roenwolfe.
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Post by: TAC on June 18, 2023, 05:48:40 PM: So I bought the new 6 CD set of Phil Lynott's Grand Slam.

It's their unreleased album, a CD of demos, and 4 concerts.

I'm starting with the Orebro, Sweden 1983 show. It features John Sykes who is smoking!

Phil's short post Thin Lizzy career is NOT to be confused with actual Thin Lizzy. The music is a bit lighter, but for $40, I couldn't pass up this set. I have some bootlegs, but this is a huge upgrade. The shows sound great!

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0031984131_71.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on June 18, 2023, 06:04:04 PM: Thin Lizzy's Johnny the Fox Meets Jimmy the Weed and Hollywood (down on your luck) had just came up on my downloaded music on my phone. Thin Lizzy is such a great band :metal
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Post by: wolfking on June 19, 2023, 03:57:09 AM: That's a great looking set.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM: (https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 25, 2023, 03:13:41 PM: Quote from: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.

Believe it or not, this popped into my youtube feed last night so I dropped the needle on it. Man, the guys sounds so much like Bruce, I simply couldn't listen to it. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 03:22:45 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2023, 03:13:41 PM

Believe it or not, this popped into my youtube feed last night so I dropped the needle on it. Man, the guys sounds so much like Bruce, I simply couldn't listen to it. :lol

Yep, it's uncanny :biggrin:

It really is a fun listen, though...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2023, 05:32:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.

Believe it or not, this popped into my youtube feed last night so I dropped the needle on it. Man, the guys sounds so much like Bruce, I simply couldn't listen to it. :lol

Might sample it tonight if I remember. I have a hard time taking anything seriously though that sounds so blatantly like another band, regardless of how strong it may be.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 06:29:45 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 25, 2023, 05:32:36 PM

Might sample it tonight if I remember. I have a hard time taking anything seriously though that sounds so blatantly like another band, regardless of how strong it may be.

Agreed - that's always going to be the main issue...
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Post by: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 06:35:57 PM: Also got around to listening to the new Fifth Angel...saw the positive comments here and I'm going to add mine...very good stuff.

Now, I know their debut is considered a classic of US metal, but for some reason I've never checked it out. It doesn't seem to be on streaming services (haven't checked if the album is uploaded on YT...). Any fan here?
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Post by: TAC on June 25, 2023, 06:43:10 PM: Fifth Angel's first album is highly recommended.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2023, 07:42:33 PM: First two are great. I really like the more melodic rock approach they went with on the second album too.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on June 26, 2023, 08:12:22 AM: Fifth Angel was really my first "favorite band," and to me, they very distinct eras. The first two records, the third record, and now this new era. I say that because the first two albums were primarily written by Ed Archer and Ted Pilot. Yes, a few of the other guys have credits on the tunes, but in general, the songwriting was done by Archer/Pilot. The third record was mostly Kendall Bechtel and Ken Mary. And now this fourth album, very driven by Ken Mary and John Macko. Ed Archer has a handful of credits on the new record (four, I think), but he wasn't the driving creative force.

Their label was very happy with the direction When Angels Kill took. It is very "European Metal" as some call it. And the record has really done well so far, and the band is blown away at the reception. It'll be interesting to see where it all goes from here. These guys aren't young bucks. And a few of them have full time jobs. So whether Fifth Angel continues its usual pattern of doing summer festivals, or they become a worldwide touring band is up in the air.

For me, I like the new album. I liked the third one too. It's hard for any band to live up to that first record. It was a different time, 40 years ago. It's like comparing anything Queensryche does to Mindcrime, or anything DT does to Images and Words or SFAM - just a gigantic thing to live up to. Fifth Angel sounds different these days, but it's okay. It's a new era. And I'm happy for them. I know several current and former members of the band well, and I'm glad they are getting some recognition finally.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on June 26, 2023, 09:41:15 AM: Quote from: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.

Wow - I don't think I've ever heard another album that sounds just like Somewhere in Time.

Also, I really love the new Fifth Angel record.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 26, 2023, 10:40:10 AM: Thank you all for the Fifth Angel recs!

@Samsara - good stuff...how did you come to know members of the band? Was that in the context of interviewing/writing about their music?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 26, 2023, 10:41:09 AM: Quote from: Grappler on June 26, 2023, 09:41:15 AM

Wow - I don't think I've ever heard another album that sounds just like Somewhere in Time.

Right?! There are some parts/moods that sound straight from that one...including the final epic...
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2023, 05:29:15 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.

Believe it or not, this popped into my youtube feed last night so I dropped the needle on it. Man, the guys sounds so much like Bruce, I simply couldn't listen to it. :lol

Just listened to the first track. It was pretty damn good but off the bat you have Long Distance Runner mixed with Deja Vu. :lol

The vocals are very Bruce bit his higher register reminds me more of Tobias Sammet. The song was good though, I will listen to the whole thing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2023, 05:11:42 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 25, 2023, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.

Believe it or not, this popped into my youtube feed last night so I dropped the needle on it. Man, the guys sounds so much like Bruce, I simply couldn't listen to it. :lol

Might sample it tonight if I remember. I have a hard time taking anything seriously though that sounds so blatantly like another band, regardless of how strong it may be.

Having a listen through this now properly and I was wrong here, I think this is fantastic. High quality melodic metal. I also don't hear that much Bruce as others do as I mentioned. I hear more earlier Edguy and even reminds me of a band called Lancer.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 27, 2023, 05:13:43 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 27, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 25, 2023, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.

Believe it or not, this popped into my youtube feed last night so I dropped the needle on it. Man, the guys sounds so much like Bruce, I simply couldn't listen to it. :lol

Might sample it tonight if I remember. I have a hard time taking anything seriously though that sounds so blatantly like another band, regardless of how strong it may be.

Having a listen through this now properly and I was wrong here, I think this is fantastic. High quality melodic metal. I also don't hear that much Bruce as others do as I mentioned. I hear more earlier Edguy and even reminds me of a band called Lancer.

I have a Lancer CD, well, download.

Ok, maybe I'll give it another chance.
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Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2023, 05:18:28 PM: Don't get me wrong, Bruce does come to mind all over this, but the dude is strong enough in his own right. I think the songs are very strong.

I have their album Mastery on CD. Really cool album.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 27, 2023, 05:21:17 PM: Quote from: wolfking on June 27, 2023, 05:18:28 PM
Don't get me wrong, Bruce does come to mind all over this, but the dude is strong enough in his own right. I think the songs are very strong.

I have their album Mastery on CD. Really cool album.

Yeah, that's the one. Haven't heard it in ages.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 28, 2023, 10:24:47 AM: Quote from: wolfking on June 27, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 25, 2023, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.

Believe it or not, this popped into my youtube feed last night so I dropped the needle on it. Man, the guys sounds so much like Bruce, I simply couldn't listen to it. :lol

Might sample it tonight if I remember. I have a hard time taking anything seriously though that sounds so blatantly like another band, regardless of how strong it may be.

Having a listen through this now properly and I was wrong here, I think this is fantastic. High quality melodic metal. I also don't hear that much Bruce as others do as I mentioned. I hear more earlier Edguy and even reminds me of a band called Lancer.

So I put this on while doing yardwork this morning, which BTW, already puts me in a foul mood. ;D

Anyway, I gotta be honest..this album pissed me off. :lol
Yeah, I hear some Tobi, but the guy sounds so much like Bruce, I cannot listen to it. I got through 4 or 5 songs.

I think I'll just listen to Skunkworks next time.
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Post by: Grappler on June 28, 2023, 10:48:07 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 28, 2023, 10:24:47 AM
I think I'll just listen to Skunkworks next time.

That's probably the best Maiden-related insult. :lol
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Post by: nick_z on June 28, 2023, 12:21:05 PM: I like Skunkworks! :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 28, 2023, 12:40:38 PM: ... said no one ever.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 28, 2023, 01:29:20 PM: I like Skunkworks! :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: nick_z on June 28, 2023, 03:23:13 PM: There you go, it’s already two of us…anyone else willing to come forward? :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 28, 2023, 03:32:17 PM: Quote from: nick_z on June 28, 2023, 03:23:13 PM
There you go, it’s already two of us…anyone else willing to come forward? :lol

Er..I said it first! We're at three now, and I know Wolfking will be joining the club as well.
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Post by: nick_z on June 28, 2023, 03:46:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 28, 2023, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: nick_z on June 28, 2023, 03:23:13 PM
There you go, it’s already two of us…anyone else willing to come forward? :lol

Er..I said it first! We're at three now, and I know Wolfking will be joining the club as well.

Oh, I thought you said it in jest!
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Post by: TAC on June 28, 2023, 03:48:32 PM: I like Skunkworks. It's actually aged very well. I was a bit iffy on it when it came out, but I really enjoy it.
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Post by: nick_z on June 28, 2023, 03:50:23 PM: Agreed - I actually very much enjoyed it from the start
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on June 28, 2023, 03:52:44 PM: Quote from: nick_z on June 28, 2023, 03:50:23 PM
Agreed - I actually very much enjoyed it from the start

I didn't know what to think of it. It came out in a very bizarre time in my life, and all it did was add to the bizarreness. :lol
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Post by: nick_z on June 28, 2023, 04:00:28 PM: One thing that I remember finding shocking (in a positive way!) was how good Bruce sounded (on Skunkworks, but also Balls to Picasso before that)…especially after hearing his stuff with Maiden before he left…
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 28, 2023, 04:38:50 PM: I love that Bruce was trying something a bit different. And yeah, he sounds amazing on that record.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2023, 05:58:00 PM: Quote from: TAC on June 28, 2023, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 27, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 25, 2023, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.

Believe it or not, this popped into my youtube feed last night so I dropped the needle on it. Man, the guys sounds so much like Bruce, I simply couldn't listen to it. :lol

Might sample it tonight if I remember. I have a hard time taking anything seriously though that sounds so blatantly like another band, regardless of how strong it may be.

Having a listen through this now properly and I was wrong here, I think this is fantastic. High quality melodic metal. I also don't hear that much Bruce as others do as I mentioned. I hear more earlier Edguy and even reminds me of a band called Lancer.

So I put this on while doing yardwork this morning, which BTW, already puts me in a foul mood. ;D

Anyway, I gotta be honest..this album pissed me off. :lol
Yeah, I hear some Tobi, but the guy sounds so much like Bruce, I cannot listen to it. I got through 4 or 5 songs.

I think I'll just listen to Skunkworks next time.

:lol

Errr......okay sorry Tim haha.

Oh, Skunkworks is top 3 Bruce, just behind CW and AOB.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 01, 2023, 04:59:51 AM: Quote from: TAC on June 28, 2023, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: wolfking on June 27, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: wolfking on June 25, 2023, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 25, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: nick_z on June 25, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2386188901_65)

New album from the Greek, um, unofficial Maiden tribute band? :) Ok, maybe a little unfair, but they seem to fully embrace their Maiden worship, so...

Anyway, this is obviously not essential listening, but it's well done and I enjoyed it for what it is. Good energy, riffs and melodies.

Believe it or not, this popped into my youtube feed last night so I dropped the needle on it. Man, the guys sounds so much like Bruce, I simply couldn't listen to it. :lol

Might sample it tonight if I remember. I have a hard time taking anything seriously though that sounds so blatantly like another band, regardless of how strong it may be.

Having a listen through this now properly and I was wrong here, I think this is fantastic. High quality melodic metal. I also don't hear that much Bruce as others do as I mentioned. I hear more earlier Edguy and even reminds me of a band called Lancer.

So I put this on while doing yardwork this morning, which BTW, already puts me in a foul mood. ;D

Anyway, I gotta be honest..this album pissed me off. :lol
Yeah, I hear some Tobi, but the guy sounds so much like Bruce, I cannot listen to it. I got through 4 or 5 songs.

Vocals on the first track was definitely the love-child of Tobi/Bruce. After that, it was mostly Bruce. Musically though, I didn't nearly as much of a Maiden vibe as the vocals.

I'm diggin the album. Definitely save-worthy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 01, 2023, 05:16:29 AM: Yeah it really doesn’t sound like Maiden.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2023, 06:06:41 AM: Small sections do, but on a whole, not really.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on July 01, 2023, 09:02:41 AM: The singing sections sure as hell do. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2023, 09:51:34 PM: Damn, the new Pyramaze is absolute shit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2023, 04:25:58 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 05, 2023, 09:51:34 PM
Damn, the new Pyramaze is absolute shit.

Really? I’ve only played it once, but thought it was decent enough. Not anything I would consider extremely good or bad … just something middle of the road for them.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2023, 05:48:48 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 06, 2023, 04:25:58 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 05, 2023, 09:51:34 PM
Damn, the new Pyramaze is absolute shit.

Really? I’ve only played it once, but thought it was decent enough. Not anything I would consider extremely good or bad … just something middle of the road for them.

It's a me problem lately, but that description you wrote there pretty much qualifies as shit to me these days. It's just so pedestrian, generic and boring. Disappointing.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2023, 07:06:36 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 06, 2023, 05:48:48 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on July 06, 2023, 04:25:58 AM
Quote from: wolfking on July 05, 2023, 09:51:34 PM
Damn, the new Pyramaze is absolute shit.

Really? I’ve only played it once, but thought it was decent enough. Not anything I would consider extremely good or bad … just something middle of the road for them.

It's a me problem lately, but that description you wrote there pretty much qualifies as shit to me these days. It's just so pedestrian, generic and boring. Disappointing.

Oh, your roulette is going to be SOOOOO much fun. :rollin
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Post by: TAC on July 06, 2023, 07:19:33 AM: Wolfking Roulette?? I’m in!!!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Stadler on July 06, 2023, 08:14:17 AM: As am I......
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on July 06, 2023, 04:08:55 PM: I've thought about it, but I just don't think I could be assed at the moment to be honest lads. I'll think some more about it. The motivation for it isn't there.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 06, 2023, 08:58:37 PM: Quote from: wolfking on July 06, 2023, 04:08:55 PM
I've thought about it, but I just don't think I could be assed at the moment to be honest lads. I'll think some more about it. The motivation for it isn't there.

Sounds like someone needs to watch some David Goggins!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: bl5150 on July 06, 2023, 10:27:58 PM: This is a bit better than the tripe KK released first time around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Sypj3SPBKKU
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 07, 2023, 08:48:07 AM: Quote from: jingle.boy on July 06, 2023, 08:58:37 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 06, 2023, 04:08:55 PM
I've thought about it, but I just don't think I could be assed at the moment to be honest lads. I'll think some more about it. The motivation for it isn't there.

Sounds like someone needs to watch some David Goggins!

Or David S. Pumpkins.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on July 07, 2023, 09:30:59 AM: On a reissue note, just picked up the vinyl reissues of Disconnected and FWX from Fates Warning that are released today.

Napalm Records in Germany has the very limited variants. I picked up the limited to 500 copper version of Disconnected and the limited to 500 brown marble version of FWX. If you're a fan, hurry. They sold out on Kingsroad Merch, so this is the last online retailer I see that has them. They also have a sweet Orange version of Disconnected (limited to 1000) and a sky blue version of FWX (limited to 1000).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on July 07, 2023, 09:39:52 AM: Brian where do those those two albums rank on your all time Fates Warning list? Nothing Fates ever did before or after compared to the triple threat of Perfect Symmetry, Parallels and Inside Out for me.
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Post by: Samsara on July 07, 2023, 09:44:48 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on July 07, 2023, 09:39:52 AM
Brian where do those those two albums rank on your all time Fates Warning list? Nothing Fates ever did before or after compared to the triple threat of Perfect Symmetry, Parallels and Inside Out for me.

It's weird. Disconnected has my favorite two FW songs of all time in "Still Remains" and "One." Yet as an album listening experience, it's below Parallels, No Exit, and Theories of Flight for me. Not sure how far below those, but it is. And it's not that I don't enjoy the other songs on Disconnected - I do. It's just strange for me.

As for FWX, I really enjoy that album a great deal. Again, not sure where it sits in the Alder-fronted catalog for me in comparison, but probably someone in the range of Inside Out (for me, which means five, six, seven, somewhere there). I'd have to think about it a bit.

My top-3 are: Parallels, No Exit, Theories of Flight.
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Post by: Grappler on July 11, 2023, 02:54:53 PM: Why have I not paid attention to Venom Inc.? Their albums kick some serious ass!

I'm a casual fan of Venom, so I don't know much about their lineup changes and the two bands aside that Cronos heads Venom and the others head Inc. But I really love Inc.'s debut.
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Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 08:08:51 PM: Had a run through of the Elegant Weapons album. The lead single had my hopes up as that was really good but everything else falls completely flat. Talk about unoriginal and uninspired.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2023, 08:40:15 PM: I tried to listen to this on Youtube and couldn't get into it at all.
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Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2023, 05:07:02 AM: Not even sure it's a solid either.
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Post by: TAC on July 18, 2023, 02:40:17 PM: So...

https://bravewords.com/news/carmine-appice-s-king-kobra-return-with-quiet-riot-and-dio-members-we-are-warriors-single-and-video-out-now

Not that I was ever into King Kobra, but this article caught my attention. The two guitarists involved are Carlos Cavazo and....Rowan Robertson, of all people. I just had to listen. The singer is Paul Shortino.

OK, color me interested.

Listened to the track linked in the article.....what fucking suckage! Holy shit, it might be the worst thing I've heard since Winger. WTF?
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 18, 2023, 02:52:15 PM: Always thought Ready to Strike was a pretty kick ass tune.
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Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 04:45:47 AM: Quote from: TAC on July 18, 2023, 02:40:17 PM
So...

https://bravewords.com/news/carmine-appice-s-king-kobra-return-with-quiet-riot-and-dio-members-we-are-warriors-single-and-video-out-now

Not that I was ever into King Kobra, but this article caught my attention. The two guitarists involved are Carlos Cavazo and....Rowan Robertson, of all people. I just had to listen. The singer is Paul Shortino.

OK, color me interested.

Listened to the track linked in the article.....what fucking suckage! Holy shit, it might be the worst thing I've heard since Winger. WTF?

How you kinda talked that up but then absolutely slammed it was beautiful.
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Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 04:57:20 AM: Holy fuck, yeah....that was actually legit really really absolute fucking horseshit.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2023, 05:00:23 AM: I'll take both of you at your word. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 05:12:11 AM: I'd recommend listening just to be in sheer disbelief at how fucking pathetic and laughable it actually is.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2023, 05:42:21 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 05:12:11 AM
I'd recommend listening just to be in sheer disbelief at how fucking pathetic and laughable it actually is.

That's 90 seconds of my life I'll never get back again. Vocally, any one of us would sound better at a karaoke bar.
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Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 05:52:05 AM: :lol
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Post by: Stadler on July 19, 2023, 07:28:40 AM: Quote from: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 04:45:47 AM
Quote from: TAC on July 18, 2023, 02:40:17 PM
So...

https://bravewords.com/news/carmine-appice-s-king-kobra-return-with-quiet-riot-and-dio-members-we-are-warriors-single-and-video-out-now

Not that I was ever into King Kobra, but this article caught my attention. The two guitarists involved are Carlos Cavazo and....Rowan Robertson, of all people. I just had to listen. The singer is Paul Shortino.

OK, color me interested.

Listened to the track linked in the article.....what fucking suckage! Holy shit, it might be the worst thing I've heard since Winger. WTF?

How you kinda talked that up but then absolutely slammed it was beautiful.

Haha, it was, wasn't it?

That song blew. I can't imagine anyone watching that and not going "C'mon, guys, really. You can't put this out."
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Post by: TAC on July 19, 2023, 07:40:10 AM: https://bravewords.com/news/iron-savior-frontman-founder-piet-sielck-diagnosed-with-cancer-all-shows-for-2023-cancelled

He sounds pretty confident about being able to beat this.
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Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2023, 02:33:39 PM: Oh shit, that sucks. :'( It does sound positive so all the best too him.
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Post by: TAC on August 13, 2023, 04:15:20 PM: So, this isn't a hard pimp, but I've been listening to this album over the last couple of days.

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3941074114_10.jpg)

Smoulder-Violent Creed Of Vengeance

The Talisman And The Blade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPS3TQPAX9s)

It's female vocals over some tasty heavy metal. Her voice can get a bit tiring, as she never shuts up and the vocal melodies aren't exactly dialed in, but the music reminds me of early Warlord.
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Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2023, 06:59:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 13, 2023, 04:15:20 PM
It's female vocals over some tasty heavy metal. Her voice can get a bit tiring, as she never shuts up and the vocal melodies aren't exactly dialed in

Yeah, don't think I'll even click it. :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 13, 2023, 07:01:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 13, 2023, 06:59:15 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 13, 2023, 04:15:20 PM
It's female vocals over some tasty heavy metal. Her voice can get a bit tiring, as she never shuts up and the vocal melodies aren't exactly dialed in

Yeah, don't think I'll even click it. :lol

:lol

Yeah, she'd annoy you for sure.
Musically it's awesome though.
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Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2023, 07:02:22 PM: Alright, I'll click it. ;D
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Post by: TAC on August 13, 2023, 07:04:07 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 13, 2023, 07:02:22 PM
Alright, I'll click it. ;D

I think you'll find my description pretty accurate. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2023, 07:08:09 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 13, 2023, 07:04:07 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 13, 2023, 07:02:22 PM
Alright, I'll click it. ;D

I think you'll find my description pretty accurate. :lol

It's actually bang on. She's not bad, but needs more instrumental sections to break it up and she needs more melody in her voice. She's not bad, just as you say, it gets tiring quick. The music however is killer.
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Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on August 13, 2023, 09:37:24 PM: That's Sarah Kitteringham's band. She probably knows more about metal than most people here. :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2023, 06:18:51 AM: Are we supposed to know who that is?
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Post by: nick_z on August 14, 2023, 06:31:06 AM: Definitely enjoyed the first few songs! I don't have much of a problem with the vocals...maybe I'll think differently once I'm done with the whole thing ;)

I remember some chatter when their first album was released, but I don't think I ended up checking it out.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2023, 07:10:31 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2023, 06:18:51 AM
Are we supposed to know who that is?

She apparently knows who you are.
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Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2023, 01:32:46 PM: Quote from: LithoJazzoSphere on August 13, 2023, 09:37:24 PM
That's Sarah Kitteringham's band. She probably knows more about metal than most people here. :lol

Pfft....I don't know who this is, but we have Brent, so pretty sure we win.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2023, 01:53:05 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 14, 2023, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: LithoJazzoSphere on August 13, 2023, 09:37:24 PM
That's Sarah Kitteringham's band. She probably knows more about metal than most people here. :lol

Pfft....I don't know who this is, but we have Brent, so pretty sure we win.

We don't get much of Brent nowadays though.

We do have JJ.
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Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2023, 02:23:18 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 14, 2023, 01:53:05 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 14, 2023, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: LithoJazzoSphere on August 13, 2023, 09:37:24 PM
That's Sarah Kitteringham's band. She probably knows more about metal than most people here. :lol

Pfft....I don't know who this is, but we have Brent, so pretty sure we win.

We don't get much of Brent nowadays though.

We do have JJ.

You, me, Brent, J, Tim, Tom......I think we have our metal basis pretty well covered to take on anyone in a duel! :biggrin: Throw in Luke, Nick.... We got this.
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Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on August 14, 2023, 06:27:33 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2023, 06:18:51 AM
Are we supposed to know who that is?

Probably not. She's also a music journalist for various outlets and is way into a lot of underground metal, some of which you'd probably enjoy even more than I do.
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2023, 06:41:52 PM: Quote from: LithoJazzoSphere on August 14, 2023, 06:27:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2023, 06:18:51 AM
Are we supposed to know who that is?

Probably not. She's also a music journalist for various outlets and is way into a lot of underground metal, some of which you'd probably enjoy even more than I do.

I looked her up on Encyclopedia Metallum, and seems she also works at banger TV. They have her listed as Sarah Ann in this band.
I looked her up on p
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Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on August 14, 2023, 06:46:52 PM: Yeah, she's one of the few people at Banger that don't bug me.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 14, 2023, 06:55:36 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2023, 06:41:52 PM
Quote from: LithoJazzoSphere on August 14, 2023, 06:27:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2023, 06:18:51 AM
Are we supposed to know who that is?

Probably not. She's also a music journalist for various outlets and is way into a lot of underground metal, some of which you'd probably enjoy even more than I do.

I looked her up on Encyclopedia Metallum, and seems she also works at banger TV. They have her listed as Sarah Ann in this band.
I looked her up on p

I’m really curious to know where this sentence was going. :lol
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Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on August 14, 2023, 06:57:13 PM: I'm not. :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2023, 07:14:44 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 14, 2023, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2023, 06:41:52 PM
Quote from: LithoJazzoSphere on August 14, 2023, 06:27:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 14, 2023, 06:18:51 AM
Are we supposed to know who that is?

Probably not. She's also a music journalist for various outlets and is way into a lot of underground metal, some of which you'd probably enjoy even more than I do.

I looked her up on Encyclopedia Metallum, and seems she also works at banger TV. They have her listed as Sarah Ann in this band.
I looked her up on p

I’m really curious to know where this sentence was going. :lol

:lol :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2023, 07:19:51 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on August 14, 2023, 01:53:05 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 14, 2023, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: LithoJazzoSphere on August 13, 2023, 09:37:24 PM
That's Sarah Kitteringham's band. She probably knows more about metal than most people here. :lol

Pfft....I don't know who this is, but we have Brent, so pretty sure we win.

We don't get much of Brent nowadays though.

We do have JJ.
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I get easily distracted by boobs. Whats happening and whats going on?
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Post by: TAC on August 14, 2023, 07:31:48 PM: You were obviously distracted by boobs while trying to quote that. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2023, 07:34:21 PM: boobs always win
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 14, 2023, 08:17:29 PM: Also get distracted by Monday Night Raw live in Winnipeg, along with boobs.
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Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2023, 05:09:18 AM: Did I hear boobs?!
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 15, 2023, 06:02:44 AM: Wolfster is also easily distracted by boobs lol
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Post by: TAC on August 15, 2023, 02:27:46 PM: Tommy Aldridge turns 73 today.

Amazing!
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Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2023, 04:24:30 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 15, 2023, 02:27:46 PM
Tommy Aldridge turns 73 today.

Amazing!

And he looks every single day of it.
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Post by: TAC on August 15, 2023, 04:29:33 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 15, 2023, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 15, 2023, 02:27:46 PM
Tommy Aldridge turns 73 today.

Amazing!

And he looks every single day of it.

He looked 60 already in 1981. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2023, 04:32:37 PM: Quote from: TAC on August 15, 2023, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 15, 2023, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 15, 2023, 02:27:46 PM
Tommy Aldridge turns 73 today.

Amazing!

And he looks every single day of it.

He looked 60 already in 1981. :lol

:lol
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Post by: nick_z on August 15, 2023, 05:21:40 PM: Quote from: wolfking on August 15, 2023, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 15, 2023, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: wolfking on August 15, 2023, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: TAC on August 15, 2023, 02:27:46 PM
Tommy Aldridge turns 73 today.

Amazing!

And he looks every single day of it.

He looked 60 already in 1981. :lol

:lol

So true :lol
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Post by: TAC on August 25, 2023, 10:25:06 AM: Bernie Marsden RIP

https://bravewords.com/news/whitesnake-legend-bernie-marsden-dead-at-72-david-coverdale-pays-tribute

He even spent a short bit in UFO before Michael Schenker joined.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on August 25, 2023, 12:09:49 PM: The Marsden/Moody duo in Whitesnake made for some great guitar parts.
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Post by: TAC on August 25, 2023, 12:48:01 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on August 25, 2023, 12:09:49 PM
The Marsden/Moody duo in Whitesnake made for some great guitar parts.

To me, that is what Whitesnake will always be. I never bought into the whole hybrid hair metal Whitesnake.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on August 25, 2023, 01:18:22 PM: 1987 isn't a bad record but I like the bluesier records with Lord and Moody/Marsden so much more. And Coverdale sounded better too.
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Post by: TAC on August 25, 2023, 01:21:37 PM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on August 25, 2023, 01:18:22 PM
1987 isn't a bad record but I like the bluesier records with Lord and Moody/Marsden so much more. And Coverdale sounded better too.

1987 has some great songs, but I also consider it one of the great overrated albums out there.
One thing I do appreciate about it is the old school rhythm section of Ainsley Dunbar and Neil Murray.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 25, 2023, 09:43:12 PM: I was surprised to see Bernie's passing as lead story this morning on one of the big news websites in Australia. They really didn't break big here until 1987 - probably some journo who saw Here I Go Again on his resume and didn't realise the original is quite different. Good to see him getting some recognition , even though not a "big name" in the scheme of things.
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Post by: nick_z on August 26, 2023, 04:09:04 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 25, 2023, 12:48:01 PM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on August 25, 2023, 12:09:49 PM
The Marsden/Moody duo in Whitesnake made for some great guitar parts.

To me, that is what Whitesnake will always be. I never bought into the whole hybrid hair metal Whitesnake.

Couldn’t agree more. I’m not generally even a huge fan of blues rock, but those Whitesnake records are great.

1987 has a fantastic song (Led Zeppelin, um, tribute notwithstanding) and is generally very well crafted, but I will almost invariably go for one of the earlier records before I reach for that one…
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on August 26, 2023, 12:00:43 PM: Finally put an order in for Bob Daisley's book. Not sure when I'll get around to reading it but I always wanted to support the guy that got boned over and over again by Sharon.
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Post by: TAC on August 26, 2023, 12:08:28 PM: Quote from: ProfessorPeart on August 26, 2023, 12:00:43 PM
Finally put an order in for Bob Daisley's book. Not sure when I'll get around to reading it but I always wanted to support the guy that got boned over and over again by Sharon.

I just can't pull the trigger for $39 on Amazon.
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Post by: gazinwales on August 28, 2023, 02:24:32 AM: $39 is an absolute steal for Bob's book, a really good book that I couldn't put down.
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Post by: Stadler on August 28, 2023, 07:49:32 AM: Quote from: TAC on August 25, 2023, 12:48:01 PM
Quote from: Kwyjibo on August 25, 2023, 12:09:49 PM
The Marsden/Moody duo in Whitesnake made for some great guitar parts.

To me, that is what Whitesnake will always be. I never bought into the whole hybrid hair metal Whitesnake.

I'm there too; "Live In The Heart Of The City" is a GREAT live record. Way underrated, IMO.

There's a local band "Beyond Purple" that does ONLY Deep Purple/Rainbow/Whitesnake/Dio songs, and while they do Still Of The Night, the best Whitesnake songs are the earlier ones they do. (The drummer is BJ Zampa from Dokken and the guitar player is Jimi Bell from Autograph and House of Lords. Bell also played in Geezer for about five minutes back in the day and co-wrote Master of Insanity from Dehumanizer. AMAZING guitar player.)
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on August 28, 2023, 12:14:23 PM: Quote from: gazinwales on August 28, 2023, 02:24:32 AM
$39 is an absolute steal for Bob's book, a really good book that I couldn't put down.

I see why it was $39 now. This thing is a beast. It is much larger than a standard hardcover book. This is close to a coffee table style book. The thing weighs a ton. Cannot believe how heavy it is. Thumbed through it a bit and just a wealth of photos from what I have seen.

I felt it was worth giving the money to Bob. I am so anti-Sharon that I completely avoided buying Ozzy albums just because I didn't want to give her any money. I finally picked most of them up on clearance. Think I spent anywhere from $1.99 to no more than $5 per CD. Got'em all on clearance.
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Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2023, 04:55:33 PM: New Primal Fear album is actually pretty damn good. While nothing new, and some terrible lyrics in places, these guys have been really consistent. I said there's nothing different but a little variety like Their Gods Have Failed which is a nice epic piece and even the straight ahead cliche tracks like Steelmelter are quite enjoyable. Cancer Culture is pretty cool too.
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Post by: TAC on October 27, 2023, 01:13:21 PM: Former WASP/LA Guns drummer Steven Riley passed away yesterday at 67.

https://bravewords.com/news/steve-riley-dead-at-67-former-l-a-guns-and-w-a-s-p-drummer-had-been-battling-severe-case-of-pneumonia
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Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2023, 05:21:57 PM: Damn, that sucks. He was solid during his time in WASP.
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Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2023, 04:24:26 AM: Stumbled across this;

https://youtu.be/dQARF_E-z2Y?si=fx4Z5zNm0Zs0fQJU

They look ridiculous but this is a damn nice song.
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Post by: TAC on November 11, 2023, 08:38:43 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 11, 2023, 04:24:26 AM
Stumbled across this;

https://youtu.be/dQARF_E-z2Y?si=fx4Z5zNm0Zs0fQJU

They look ridiculous but this is a damn nice song.

That's tasty, Kade. I'd love to hear the album when it comes out.

EDIT: Reading the comments, they might be done already??
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Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2023, 03:25:03 AM: Oh really? :lol

That'd be fucking right. Still keen to check the album.
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Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2023, 06:00:34 PM: Woah, new Saxon!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvJ1T_tGSBc

:metal
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Post by: TAC on November 21, 2023, 06:40:48 PM: Quote from: wolfking on November 21, 2023, 06:00:34 PM
Woah, new Saxon!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvJ1T_tGSBc

:metal

Heard that today and it's...Saxon!!!

Apparently Brian Tatler recorded the album with them. How fucking good does Biff Byford still sound? the guy is 72...73 in two months!
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Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2023, 06:53:35 PM: The whole thing sounded class as usual. Looking forward to the album. Last one was excellent again. Biff has never disappointed.
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Post by: TAC on November 21, 2023, 07:12:49 PM: They have been so consistent. Lionheart was the album that for me, put them back on the map. They've had a pretty steady lineup and I hope they come here next year.
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Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2023, 08:33:29 PM: Quote from: TAC on November 21, 2023, 07:12:49 PM
They have been so consistent. Lionheart was the album that for me, put them back on the map. They've had a pretty steady lineup and I hope they come here next year.

Lionheart was the album that got me into them! Definitely from them onwards they have had a whole new lease on life. Killing Ground was good but from Lionheart onwards, all fucking killer!
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Post by: ozzy554 on November 25, 2023, 09:01:26 AM: One of the most dependable bands out there. Tatler was a great choice as a new guitarist though I hope it doesn't impact Diamond Head too much as I really enjoyed The Coffin Train. Though I'm sure Saxon pays the bills more than Diamond Head currently does
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Post by: TAC on December 01, 2023, 07:17:00 PM: (https://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/RIOT-Mean-Streets-1024x1024.jpg)

https://bravewords.com/news/riot-v-to-release-mean-streets-album-in-february-high-noon-lyric-video-posted

The new song is a bit cheesy but the solo section is cool. Very looking forward to this.

They've outdone themselves with this album cover. :lol
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Post by: nick_z on December 01, 2023, 07:39:22 PM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2023, 07:17:00 PM

They've outdone themselves with this album cover. :lol

It's absolutely BRILLIANT :rollin
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2023, 07:49:40 PM: The fuck? Lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2023, 03:59:11 AM: :lol

Reminds me of one of my fav cartoons as a kid, Biker Mice From Mars!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Biker_Mice_From_Mars_2006.jpg)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2023, 09:05:08 PM: April Wine :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2023, 09:08:36 PM: I have never heard an April Wine song.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2023, 09:11:30 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 03, 2023, 09:08:36 PM
I have never heard an April Wine song.

(https://media.tenor.com/tYlgNBmdeL0AAAAC/woah.gif)
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2023, 09:11:46 PM: Legendary singer just passed away. Start with "Sign of the Gypsy Queen" and continue from there
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2023, 09:16:52 PM: In Canada, April Wine are legends. Not sure if anyone else knows them.
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2023, 09:17:46 PM: That solo section is damn tasty, not bad. Get a BOC vibe from the rest, but nice song.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2023, 09:20:43 PM: Quote from: wolfking on December 03, 2023, 09:17:46 PM
That solo section is damn tasty, not bad. Get a BOC vibe from the rest, but nice song.

Yeah... that's a good description for them - they're the Canadian BOC.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2023, 09:25:46 PM: Yes, and Blue Oyster Cult and April Wine kick ass :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2023, 10:35:47 PM: In Canada if you combine Our Lady Peace, Moist, I Mother Earth, Tea Party, that equals April Wine.
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Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2023, 10:38:16 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 03, 2023, 10:35:47 PM
In Canada if you combine Our Lady Peace, Moist, I Mother Earth, Tea Party, that equals April Wine.

I don't know these bands either.

Moist? :lol

But...The Tea Party, now we're talking.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2023, 10:40:12 PM: Canada :metal
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Post by: Podaar on December 04, 2023, 07:46:45 AM: Quote from: wolfking on December 03, 2023, 10:38:16 PM

Moist? :lol

Damp was already taken.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2023, 08:30:27 AM: Moist- pretty good band, terrible name.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on December 04, 2023, 08:58:31 AM: 'Terrible name' was my first thought too, then I remembered there was a band called Wet Wet Wet and now Moist doesn't seem so stupid a name. ;)
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Post by: TAC on December 04, 2023, 09:07:48 AM: Quote from: Kwyjibo on December 04, 2023, 08:58:31 AM
'Terrible name' was my first thought too, then I remembered there was a band called Wet Wet Wet and now Moist doesn't seem so stupid a name. ;)

No, it’s still stupid.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2023, 09:23:30 AM: I watched Kiss' "final" concert this weekend. I knew it was extremely unlikely, but was hoping to see Ace and Peter show up, but didn't happen. And now Kiss will continue touring as avatars??
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Post by: Grappler on December 04, 2023, 09:38:29 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2023, 09:23:30 AM
I watched Kiss' "final" concert this weekend. I knew it was extremely unlikely, but was hoping to see Ace and Peter show up, but didn't happen. And now Kiss will continue touring as avatars??

Gene's statement in the press release mentioned that they could hold a bunch of concerts simultaneously, hiring four musicians to play the music live, while the avatars do the "performing." I think it's dumb as shit. I'd have more respect for them saying "the band will live on with other musicians in the makeup"

Gene also mentioned once that it was their last live performance in makeup. I could see them doing smaller club shows or festivals in street clothes, with a smaller scaled production. I buy that more than some hologram spectacle show.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2023, 09:48:02 AM: As long as Gene makes money, that's the most important thing.
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Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2023, 04:22:30 AM: Quote from: TAC on December 01, 2023, 07:17:00 PM
(https://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/RIOT-Mean-Streets-1024x1024.jpg)

https://bravewords.com/news/riot-v-to-release-mean-streets-album-in-february-high-noon-lyric-video-posted

The new song is a bit cheesy but the solo section is cool. Very looking forward to this.

They've outdone themselves with this album cover. :lol

These lyrics are fucked.
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Post by: Stadler on December 05, 2023, 07:07:04 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2023, 09:48:02 AM
As long as Gene makes money, that's the most important thing.

It's a fair criticism, for sure, and it's not something I'm blind to, but it does obscure the bigger picture a bit. Kiss is bigger than any of the band members; it's an expectation. It's not something that translates into smaller places, or one-offs. Just like I really dug when Twisted Sister just showed up in jeans and t-shirts to play, I do hope Kiss does something similar. I saw Gene in a 1,000 seat club in Philly (the Trocadero, where Tesla recorded their acoustic album) and it was AMAZING. It was so much fun, and so much more than a "Kiss arena show".

Fair is fair; I think Paul and Gene have earned the right at this point to make Kiss be whatever they want it to be, and while I'm not automatically on board, I'm excited for the possibilities.
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Post by: TAC on December 05, 2023, 07:13:12 AM: Quote from: Stadler on December 05, 2023, 07:07:04 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 04, 2023, 09:48:02 AM
As long as Gene makes money, that's the most important thing.

It's a fair criticism, for sure, and it's not something I'm blind to, but it does obscure the bigger picture a bit. Kiss is bigger than any of the band members; it's an expectation. It's not something that translates into smaller places, or one-offs. Just like I really dug when Twisted Sister just showed up in jeans and t-shirts to play, I do hope Kiss does something similar. I saw Gene in a 1,000 seat club in Philly (the Trocadero, where Tesla recorded their acoustic album) and it was AMAZING. It was so much fun, and so much more than a "Kiss arena show".

Fair is fair; I think Paul and Gene have earned the right at this point to make Kiss be whatever they want it to be, and while I'm not automatically on board, I'm excited for the possibilities.

I don't know if I'm excited at all about the possibilities.

That Gene tour...I wouldn't say I regret missing it, but that looked like a great experience. His setlist was deep as hell and I'm sure I would've enjoyed it. But I guess I'm kind of past Kiss in many ways, although I did throw together a 70's playlist the other day on Spotify. I have been a Kiss fan my whole life up until the last couple of decades, but I still love their catalog of music and listen to a lot of it.

I was lucky enough to see the Paul Stanley club tour (In Hartford, with Eric Singer on drums) in 1989 and the Kiss Revenge club tour (in Boston) in 1992, and they were both amazing experiences.
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Post by: cramx3 on December 14, 2023, 02:09:21 PM: This new Mick Mars song is actually pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onhdroC-PM0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onhdroC-PM0)
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2024, 05:00:51 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 04:39:58 PM
I've just loaded up Under the Blade.

Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 04:39:58 PM
I've just loaded up Under the Blade.

Under The Blade is ok.... produced by Pete Way!

Love the live version of Shoot 'em Down!!
https://youtu.be/Zm-DA8TXuPM?si=mMjgRfGlDTxBtOdH&t=1146
You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is where it's at, and Stay Hungry!!
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 05:17:09 PM: So on the advice of Jason and Bill, I'm going through Twisted Sister. I'm halfway through Under the Blade;

What You Don't Know - Once this got going, this was pretty enjoyable. Simple riffing but some cool melodies.
Bad Boys - Nah, this blows.
Run For Your Life - The intro was fucking weird but once that UFO kinda riff kicked in it was nice. Guitar work is surprisingly decent.
Sin After Sin - Solid. Some funny vocals on this one.
Shoot 'Em Down - Nice ACDC song. unfortunately, I don't really like ACDC. It's catchy enough though. The UFO vibes that were in there were the thing that saved it.
Destroyer - I thought this was pretty shit but took notice once the solo hit, that was pretty cool. Even some doom metal vibes in here lol.
Under the Blade - This one was pretty decent. Nice riff. Damn this riff reminds me of something. Can't put my finger on it.
Tear it Loose - Another solid number. I'm not minding the guitar work on this album at all.
I'll Never Grow Up - These types of tunes are just not for me.
Day of the Rocker - Nah, another one not really for me.

So, this was fine, I didn't mind listening to it at all. There are some enjoyable songs here and some nice guitar work, but some slackers too.

Onto the next on.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 05:23:41 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 07, 2024, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 04:39:58 PM
I've just loaded up Under the Blade.

Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 04:39:58 PM
I've just loaded up Under the Blade.

Under The Blade is ok.... produced by Pete Way!

Love the live version of Shoot 'em Down!!
https://youtu.be/Zm-DA8TXuPM?si=mMjgRfGlDTxBtOdH&t=1146
You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is where it's at, and Stay Hungry!!

Makes sense since I did get some UFO vibes during it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 07, 2024, 05:24:56 PM: You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is the ass kicker of their discography.
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2024, 05:42:50 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 07, 2024, 05:24:56 PM
You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is the ass kicker of their discography.

YES!!!

And Stay Hungry is awesome too!!

But...that's it.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 05:58:44 PM: You Can't Kill Rock and Roll;

The Kids Are Back - Pretty standard opener. Enjoyable enough. Is it weird I get Megadeth vibes at the start of the verses?
Like A Knife - Man that opening reminds me of 'I Want Candy.' Pretty sure I've heard this one before. Catchy chorus. Nice key change into the solo too. The guitar work again is solid.
Ride to Live - Get some WASP vibes from the intro. Good groove. Not much to say on this one, solid.
I Am - Eh.....yeah another kind of song not really my thing. It sort of got better as it went though
Power and the Glory - Yeah, this one is cool once it gets going. Cool chorus. Dee actually sounds really nice on this one. Might be my fav song yet out of the two albums. Nice platform for the solo too.
We're Gonna Make It - Pretty standard riff but it drives the song pretty hard, making a really cool chorus too, with a great vocal melody. The guitar playing in this band as Bill said is nothing spectacular but it's all really well executed and always has a great platform to breathe over. Fits the criteria also for the style perfectly. You don't want shred on this stuff, you want pentatonic blues and rock licks, that's it. Great song.
I've Had Enough - A bit of filler but I didn't feel like skipping it. Probably adequately placed.
I'll Take You Alive - They seem to have a knack of just keeping their riffs so damn simple but you know, they work well and pack enough in around the melodies. I get Virgin Steele vibes from this one to be honest. I can hear Defeis singing this.
You're Not Alone - Hmm........yeah, nah.
You Can't Stop Rock and Roll - I do like the consistency in their riffing. :lol Solid.

Yeah, this was a lot more enjoyable than the first one. Is it something I'll go back to.....probably not. I guess I've just never really been a fan of Dee's voice. There's nothing wrong with it I guess but I just don't think he has a very pleasing voice to listen to. But that's me. Might continue onto Stay Hungry now while I'm going.
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2024, 06:03:51 PM: Street Justice :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 06:35:38 PM: Stay Hungry;

Stay Hungry - Oh yeah, this is a cool song, what a cool chorus. Dee actually sounds more pleasant and melodic here. Nice verses too, this is very slick.
We're Not Gonna Take It - We've heard it, no need to comment. I always enjoyed it though truthfully.
Burn in Hell - For some reason on Spotify the volume on this song dropped considerably. Weird. Alright, fuck once this gets going we're finally into some metal territory. I like the guitar tone here. Yeah, this is cool as fuck.
Horror-teria - Some more metal vibes, nice. I get strong Alice Cooper feels here too. This is fine, the second half is a nice contrast to the first.
I Wanna Rock - Damn the volume just came back lol. We all wanna rock and we've heard this enough too. Again, never hated it.
The Price - And the volume is down again. I like Dee's voice here in the verses. Decent ballad, cool solo.
Don't Let Me Down - Back to some pace again, another cool simple tune with a nice chorus. nice guitar melody in the chorus too. Cool duel solos also.
The Beast - Nice Sabbath groove in this one. Cool guitar again. Simple repetitive, but I can dig it.
SMF - Adequate closer. Some more flashy guitar playing on this one which was nice.

Yeah, I really liked that one. Dee sounded a lot more attractive on that one too. I can see why they were popular back in the day, solid chops, decent melodies, seemed like a good fit for the era.
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Post by: TAC on January 07, 2024, 06:51:23 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 06:35:38 PM

Yeah, I really liked that one. Dee sounded a lot more attractive on that one too. I can see why they were popular back in the day, solid chops, decent melodies, seemed like a good fit for the era.

They were really only popular because MTV played the shit out of We're Not Gonna Take It, and then I Wanna Rock. They opened for Dio and then Iron Maiden on the Stay Hungry tour. I remember MTV also played one of their concerts..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXbdZUt2qUQ

This was a good representation of what they were like when I saw them.

They played for years, since the mid 70's in the NYC clubs and then finally got their big break, and then promptly fizzled just as quick. After Stay Hungry that was about it. By the time Come Out And Play came out, people had moved off of the novelty of Twisted Sister. I mean the whole premise was foolish, and then Love If For Suckers was the nail in the coffin.

I got into them with YCKRNR. A local station had a Metal Show on Saturday nights and they played The Kids Are Back and You Can't Kill Rock n Roll. I really liked them through Stay Hungry.

I do like the Live At Hammersmith album a lot.
https://open.spotify.com/album/6sZeoCH0jAXFcLpB7dK91Q?si=RE0trQl0T_6vo2uHfAc4Pw
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 06:59:42 PM: Thanks Tim. I'll check that live one and YouTube link too. Those two songs were fucking massive over here too. Growing up listening to rock radio, those songs were always in rotation.

Looking at their discography, I'm surprised how little time they lasted also. Seemed very flash in the pan, but has just been able to feed of the hits long term.

I will check Love is for Suckers, as I am a Reb Beach fan, so I'm mildly interested.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 07, 2024, 07:40:04 PM: If you're not a Twisted Sister fanatic by this point, Love is for Suckers and Come Out and Play (and the Christmas album) will not win you over at all. And I agree, they really didn't release much material overall.
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Post by: Grappler on January 07, 2024, 09:08:59 PM: I love Dee's last couple of solo albums and the live album he put out. Thrashy and heavy stuff - it's too bad he isn't going to continue doing albums in this vein. He's the real deal, just a great singer and performer.
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Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2024, 09:18:40 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 07, 2024, 07:40:04 PM
If you're not a Twisted Sister fanatic by this point, Love is for Suckers and Come Out and Play (and the Christmas album) will not win you over at all. And I agree, they really didn't release much material overall.

I don't think it's about becoming a fan, it's just seeing what I've not heard and give some appreciation. I think my time on becoming 'fans' of these old school bands is pretty much past that point to be truthful. UFO was the last one I became a 'fan' of, but even then, discovering them late, after all the novelty wore off, I don't revisit the albums like I did 20 years ago when discovering the bands I am now a fan of, if that makes sense.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 07, 2024, 11:16:33 PM: Love Is For Suckers gets panned everywhere but it's like Dee singing for Winger so you might like it Kade ;D

I always enjoyed Dee's voice over some songs with more going on musically with the guitars - this was one I liked as a young fella Kade (Dee + Al Pitrelli) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZHuDGJh8M4&list=PLuIHxlI11V5lYZJL4tw0AGFJJwdXGItNr&index=5

See what you think?
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Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2024, 04:10:46 AM: Quote from: bl5150 on January 07, 2024, 11:16:33 PM
Love Is For Suckers gets panned everywhere but it's like Dee singing for Winger so you might like it Kade ;D

I always enjoyed Dee's voice over some songs with more going on musically with the guitars - this was one I liked as a young fella Kade (Dee + Al Pitrelli) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZHuDGJh8M4&list=PLuIHxlI11V5lYZJL4tw0AGFJJwdXGItNr&index=5

See what you think?

Exactly what I was thinking! :lol

Yeah nice, that's a strong song. And Dee did sound nice. I'll check the full album tomorrow mate. Pitrelli being involved certainly doesn't hurt either.
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Post by: Grappler on January 08, 2024, 06:54:26 AM: That Widowmaker album is awesome, especially the title track. Dee shines on that song and it's got a killer riff.
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Post by: Stadler on January 08, 2024, 12:30:33 PM: Also, there are two pretty distinct mixes for the first album. One that is pretty rough and stark (from 1982) then another "Atlantic Records" remix from 1985 in the wake of "Stay Hungry" to make it sound more like the two records in between. Very much like Motley Crue that had an original (and many think superior) mix, and a second, more commercial version.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 09, 2024, 11:31:07 AM: I was never much of a fan of TS to be honest. They were just too basic, and this coming from a KISS fan! That Widowmaker album is quality though.
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Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2024, 12:39:01 PM: Quote from: Lowdz on January 09, 2024, 11:31:07 AM
I was never much of a fan of TS to be honest. They were just too basic, and this coming from a KISS fan! That Widowmaker album is quality though.

Hey Paul!! Good to see you, hope you are well.
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Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 09, 2024, 03:52:49 PM: Quote from: Grappler on January 07, 2024, 09:08:59 PM
I love Dee's last couple of solo albums and the live album he put out. Thrashy and heavy stuff - it's too bad he isn't going to continue doing albums in this vein. He's the real deal, just a great singer and performer.

Agreed. Loved his last 2 albums and upset that he is stopping.
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Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2024, 08:00:15 PM: Quote from: ProfessorPeart on January 09, 2024, 03:52:49 PM
Quote from: Grappler on January 07, 2024, 09:08:59 PM
I love Dee's last couple of solo albums and the live album he put out. Thrashy and heavy stuff - it's too bad he isn't going to continue doing albums in this vein. He's the real deal, just a great singer and performer.

Agreed. Loved his last 2 albums and upset that he is stopping.

Not sure if I checked the last one.

I still haven't gotten onto the Widowmaker and Love is For Suckers, but haven't forgotten.
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Post by: ozzy554 on January 09, 2024, 10:07:04 PM: I also decided to do a listen of the TS discography. 2 albums deep right now and they are the very definition of serviceable. I'll say one thing though they really knew how to pick their singles. The songs I already knew of going in have been my favorites on the albums so far.
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2024, 02:49:20 AM: I think 'serviceable' is a perfect description of them actually.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2024, 07:14:39 PM: Nice little interview with Vivian Campbell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emzsL1QYeFw&t=13s
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 11, 2024, 07:26:40 PM: Saw that Joel Hoekstra from Whitesnake is now playing in Accept.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2024, 07:28:41 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 11, 2024, 07:26:40 PM
Saw that Joel Hoekstra from Whitesnake is now playing in Accept.

Yeah, he's going to do a tour. Not sure why Wolf feels like he needs three guitarists in the band.

Also, I'm ready for some new Accept music.
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Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2024, 07:53:23 PM: Quote from: TAC on January 11, 2024, 07:28:41 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 11, 2024, 07:26:40 PM
Saw that Joel Hoekstra from Whitesnake is now playing in Accept.

Yeah, he's going to do a tour. Not sure why Wolf feels like he needs three guitarists in the band.

Also, I'm ready for some new Accept music.

Strange fit but easy money I guess.

Wait.....since when have they had 3 guitarists? lol, wtf gotta look taht up.
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Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2024, 07:56:26 PM: Since 2019 apparently. Has it been that longed since I've watched some footage? Didn't even realise that when I picked up the last album either.

That makes no sense, Wolf is really the only lead player. The only benefit it would have would to some rhythm under the harmonies but it's never needed IMO.

Also Tim, yeah the Satans' Fall album, I listened to it again today in the car when out and yeah, there's a few songs there that totally scream recent Accept, the second track especially. Dead ringer.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 11, 2024, 08:10:06 PM: The band also announced that Mark is now officially the longest serving singer of Accept. That is mind boggling.

Mark has done a great job, but Balls to the Wall, Restless and Wild and Metal Heart are my go to's for the band.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2024, 08:22:38 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 11, 2024, 08:10:06 PM
The band also announced that Mark is now officially the longest serving singer of Accept. That is mind boggling.

Mark has done a great job, but Balls to the Wall, Restless and Wild and Metal Heart are my go to's for the band.

Wow, that is kinda crazy when you think about it.

Metal Heart is so fucking good. :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 11, 2024, 08:43:11 PM: Wolf=Wolf
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2024, 08:46:52 PM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 11, 2024, 08:47:17 PM: :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2024, 08:48:09 PM: :metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 12, 2024, 09:06:54 AM: Metal Heart is one if my all time favorite albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2024, 09:29:45 AM: Midnight Mover is a pretty difficult video to watch lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2024, 02:00:47 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on January 12, 2024, 09:29:45 AM
Midnight Mover is a pretty difficult video to watch lol

Lol, I don't think I've seen it. I'll have to check it out.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 12, 2024, 02:02:41 PM: Yeah, I don’t remember it.

I can do without Screaming For A Lovebite, but everything else is aces.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 16, 2024, 11:28:52 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 09, 2024, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 09, 2024, 11:31:07 AM
I was never much of a fan of TS to be honest. They were just too basic, and this coming from a KISS fan! That Widowmaker album is quality though.

Hey Paul!! Good to see you, hope you are well.

I am mate, thanks. Don’t get around here much these days. Not online much ata all really. Life has got busy. Hope the gang is all well.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 16, 2024, 02:35:12 PM: Hi Paul!

Good to see you. Don't be a stranger.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 16, 2024, 02:36:24 PM: New Saxon video.

There's Something In Roswell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-xgVaQX4Hk

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2024, 04:24:54 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 16, 2024, 02:36:24 PM
New Saxon video.

There's Something In Roswell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-xgVaQX4Hk

:metal

Looks like we are in for another killer album! :metal

Loved that solo section. Dudes in their 60s and 70s singing a heavy metal song about aliens. What's not to like here? :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Podaar on January 17, 2024, 05:22:12 AM: Quote from: wolfking on January 17, 2024, 04:24:54 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 16, 2024, 02:36:24 PM
New Saxon video.

There's Something In Roswell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-xgVaQX4Hk

:metal

Looks like we are in for another killer album! :metal

Loved that solo section. Dudes in their 60s and 70s singing a heavy metal song about aliens. What's not to like here? :metal

Yet when DT does it, it's lame or cheesy. ::)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 17, 2024, 07:02:38 AM: Quote from: Podaar on January 17, 2024, 05:22:12 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 17, 2024, 04:24:54 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 16, 2024, 02:36:24 PM
New Saxon video.

There's Something In Roswell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-xgVaQX4Hk

:metal

Looks like we are in for another killer album! :metal

Loved that solo section. Dudes in their 60s and 70s singing a heavy metal song about aliens. What's not to like here? :metal

Yet when DT does it, it's lame or cheesy. ::)

Which DT song are we talking about? If you're talking The Alien, that's a totally different subject matter. Plus, I rate The Alien at #16 in my DT Top 100!

I have to admit, when I saw the title, There's Something In Roswell, I kind of cringed. Other than the chorus, this song kicks ass though. The verses are classic Saxon.

But back to the title and subject, I feel the same thing about Hangar 18. I do find the subject matter cheesy.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2024, 01:14:51 PM: Quote from: Podaar on January 17, 2024, 05:22:12 AM
Quote from: wolfking on January 17, 2024, 04:24:54 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 16, 2024, 02:36:24 PM
New Saxon video.

There's Something In Roswell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-xgVaQX4Hk

:metal

Looks like we are in for another killer album! :metal

Loved that solo section. Dudes in their 60s and 70s singing a heavy metal song about aliens. What's not to like here? :metal

Yet when DT does it, it's lame or cheesy. ::)

I was just having a bit of a laugh. Plus, I personally have never had an issue with the lyrics to The Alien. Plus it even cracked my you 100.

Like Tim said, the subject matter is still a bit cheesy, hence my tongue in cheek statement in the first place, but who gives a fuck hey.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on January 17, 2024, 03:02:49 PM: I always find the "cheesy" accusation amusing given a lot of people's favorite artists here, and even the house band a decent amount of the time.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Indiscipline on January 17, 2024, 03:06:18 PM: 5% cheesy is cringey, 50% cheesy is cheap, 100% cheesy is epic.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 17, 2024, 03:09:28 PM: Quote from: Indiscipline on January 17, 2024, 03:06:18 PM
5% cheesy is cringey, 50% cheesy is cheap, 100% cheesy is epic.

The Cheese Scale of Music.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2024, 04:09:51 PM: Quote from: Indiscipline on January 17, 2024, 03:06:18 PM
5% cheesy is cringey, 50% cheesy is cheap, 100% cheesy is epic.

Seems legit.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 21, 2024, 04:12:33 PM: Found this Biff Byford interview by Rodrigo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVu7pr_HKA4

@ Rodrigo...nice job with the interview. Biff sounded pretty engaged, so kudos because you're probably the 2 millionth guy to interview him! Love the conversation around the 90's time period.

Also, I thought you were younger than you actually are.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2024, 04:38:23 PM: I'll check that out a bit later.

The new album is solid as fuck, really enjoying it. Feels more straight ahead and a bit stripped down and less metal than the last couple but it's great. Love the addition of Brian. His leads a super tasty and works really well alongside Doug.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on January 21, 2024, 04:40:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on January 21, 2024, 04:38:23 PM
I'll check that out a bit later.

The new album is solid as fuck, really enjoying it. Feels more straight ahead and a bit stripped down and less metal than the last couple but it's great. Love the addition of Brian. His leads a super tasty and works really well alongside Doug.

I agree. This album hits the spot.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on January 21, 2024, 05:08:37 PM: Jimmy Waldo talking about Graham Bonnet lip syncing during live shows. I had my suspicions after Graham started sounding consistently good during the videos I've seen as he was usually very hit and miss. I think he's eased up on them a bit as I've heard newer shows that certainly sound live but I'm starting to understand more and more why they took the manager's side in the split.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGycqdGYHo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGycqdGYHo)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 22, 2024, 12:47:44 AM: New Crimdon Glory song is pretty good 😳

https://youtu.be/K66dL16MVy0?si=3c0sVXtNKEIBrVjv
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on January 22, 2024, 05:02:56 AM: Quote from: TAC on January 21, 2024, 04:12:33 PM
Found this Biff Byford interview by Rodrigo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVu7pr_HKA4

@ Rodrigo...nice job with the interview. Biff sounded pretty engaged, so kudos because you're probably the 2 millionth guy to interview him! Love the conversation around the 90's time period.

Also, I thought you were younger than you actually are.

Thanks man! And yeah, it's difficult to get the artists excited when they've talked about the album extensively. In this case, it was the last slot with Biff for the day, and he was late because the previous interview lasted too long. In other words...this interview had everything to come out terribly boring. I studied other interviews he had done and decided to ask very different questions - the one about them doing a concept album, or addressing the reality show they did a long time ago. I'm glad you liked it!

How old did you think I was? I'm 49...I guess all the running and eating right is FINALLY starting to pay off. LOL!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2024, 08:33:26 AM: Wonder if I'll get an invite to family functions now??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEPvn2zsTtE&t=1s
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2024, 12:35:57 PM: Quote from: jingle.boy on January 23, 2024, 08:33:26 AM
Wonder if I'll get an invite to family functions now??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEPvn2zsTtE&t=1s

That’ll be fun.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: EPICVIEW on January 23, 2024, 01:28:23 PM: Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 22, 2024, 05:02:56 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 21, 2024, 04:12:33 PM
Found this Biff Byford interview by Rodrigo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVu7pr_HKA4

@ Rodrigo...nice job with the interview. Biff sounded pretty engaged, so kudos because you're probably the 2 millionth guy to interview him! Love the conversation around the 90's time period.

Also, I though
t you were younger than you actually are.

Good Stuff I saw and met Biff and Saxon back in 83, great show back then....

Thanks man! And yeah, it's difficult to get the artists excited when they've talked about the album extensively. In this case, it was the last slot with Biff for the day, and he was late because the previous interview lasted too long. In other words...this interview had everything to come out terribly boring. I studied other interviews he had done and decided to ask very different questions - the one about them doing a concept album, or addressing the reality show they did a long time ago. I'm glad you liked it!

How old did you think I was? I'm 49...I guess all the running and eating right is FINALLY starting to pay off. LOL!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2024, 04:42:07 AM: New Accept, April 26! :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2024, 06:18:59 AM: Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2024, 04:42:07 AM
New Accept, April 26! :metal

:metal

About damn time!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2024, 01:32:21 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 07, 2024, 06:18:59 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 07, 2024, 04:42:07 AM
New Accept, April 26! :metal

:metal

About damn time!

:metal :metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on February 14, 2024, 06:54:10 PM: Speaking of Accept, this showed up in my feed the last couple of days, and today, I decided to open it up and watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALEelriz_Gc

There's a channel called Metal School, and this guy does mini documentary type videos on classic bands. On this one, he does Accept, and he does a pretty good job with it too. Really enjoyed it.

Also, saw a teaser for their new single today, and it kind of blew. Hopefully the rest of the album is much better. Still, it's a release day purchase no questions asked.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on February 14, 2024, 07:12:16 PM: Quote from: TAC on February 14, 2024, 06:54:10 PM
Speaking of Accept, this showed up in my feed the last couple of days, and today, I decided to open it up and watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALEelriz_Gc

There's a channel called Metal School, and this guy does mini documentary type videos on classic bands. On this one, he does Accept, and he does a pretty good job with it too. Really enjoyed it.

Also, saw a teaser for their new single today, and it kind of blew. Hopefully the rest of the album is much better. Still, it's a release day purchase no questions asked.

I remember checking out one of those Metal Schools for a band, it was okay.

I'll go and hunt these teaser out now.

EDIT: Eh.....does seem like a strange single choice but the second half sounded a bit better. Will reserve judgement.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2024, 04:08:16 AM: I think I've found my song of 2024 already.

https://youtu.be/8lCc6G2JbTs?si=pumv57ei_Tyqk9RF
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 04, 2024, 11:19:23 AM: wow
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 04, 2024, 12:40:25 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 04, 2024, 04:08:16 AM
I think I've found my song of 2024 already.

https://youtu.be/8lCc6G2JbTs?si=pumv57ei_Tyqk9RF

Written and recorded at Oxford University, no doubt. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 04, 2024, 01:17:11 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 04, 2024, 04:08:16 AM
I think I've found my song of 2024 already.

https://youtu.be/8lCc6G2JbTs?si=pumv57ei_Tyqk9RF

Not sure if serious :huh: :D
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on March 04, 2024, 01:26:48 PM: Quote from: wolfking on March 04, 2024, 04:08:16 AM
I think I've found my song of 2024 already.

https://youtu.be/8lCc6G2JbTs?si=pumv57ei_Tyqk9RF

So...they're banned?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 04, 2024, 02:55:51 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 04, 2024, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 04, 2024, 04:08:16 AM
I think I've found my song of 2024 already.

https://youtu.be/8lCc6G2JbTs?si=pumv57ei_Tyqk9RF

So...they're banned?

:rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2024, 03:29:31 PM: Quote from: TAC on March 04, 2024, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 04, 2024, 04:08:16 AM
I think I've found my song of 2024 already.

https://youtu.be/8lCc6G2JbTs?si=pumv57ei_Tyqk9RF

So...they're banned?

Better cross them off your short-list mate.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 04, 2024, 03:33:24 PM: Obviously I don't give two f$&ks about roulettes, but does this mean that the Wolfster is beginning his legendary roulette?
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2024, 04:06:21 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on March 04, 2024, 03:33:24 PM
Obviously I don't give two f$&ks about roulettes, but does this mean that the Wolfster is beginning his legendary roulette?

Getting prepared as we speak!
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Samsara on March 05, 2024, 10:16:58 AM: Quote
Bet the black comes in red, crimes of passion rule my head.
I need you, you want him, dressed to kill we live in sin.
I know the game you play, I know it well.
You just keep on playin' when all the bets are down.
Roulette roulette you're goin' round in a spin,
Caught up in a game you just can't win.
Roulette, you're just a fantasy.
It's everything that you want it to be.
Play the numbers one by one, fire the shot and the damage is done.
Restless lovers pay the price, cheating hearts don't think twice.
When you make the rules no one can slow you down,
You just keep 'em waiting when you're on the prowl.
Roulette roulette you're goin' round in a spin,
Caught up in a game you just can't win.
Roulette, you're just a fantasy.
It's everything that you want it to be.
Roulette roulette you're goin' round in a spin,
Caught up in a game you just can't win.
Roulette, you're just a fantasy.
It's everything that you want it to be.
Backdoor runner got away this time,
Leaves her mark at the scene of the crime.
Nothing matters, no faces, no names,
You're just a number, it's all the same.
You just love to play the game.
I know the game you play, I know it well.
You just keep on playin' when all the bets are down.
Roulette roulette you're goin' round in a spin,
Caught up in a game you just can't win.
Roulette, you're just a fantasy.
It's everything that you want it to be.
Roulette roulette you're goin' round in a spin,
Caught up in a game you just can't win.
Roulette, you're just a fantasy.
It's everything that you want it to be

I don't do roulettes, but whenever I see posts, the above comes to mind. LOL.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2024, 08:03:31 PM: New F&J!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u8KMq1LCfk

:metal
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 25, 2024, 08:06:28 PM: Nice. Gotta check that out. Hammerfall also released a new song today which sounds like...Hammerfall.

And that's fine by me.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2024, 08:25:40 PM: Yes, I meant to go back to the Hammerfall vid. Last album was really good.

The F&J is pretty much expected, short and ripping. Not all that memorable but you couldn't have asked for anything else.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 25, 2024, 08:27:01 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2024, 08:03:31 PM
New F&J!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u8KMq1LCfk

:metal

Not available here yet... I'll check it in the morning.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2024, 09:51:33 PM: Ah okay. That's just the song, I can't see the video yet either.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 26, 2024, 09:27:20 AM: New Motley Crue is better than expected, which was pretty low so maybe not saying much, but I didn't hate it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 26, 2024, 10:17:48 AM: I thought the new Crue was kind of meh. Not a song I see myself going out of my way to play again. But I guess it’s cool that they released a new song.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: cramx3 on April 26, 2024, 11:43:32 AM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 26, 2024, 10:17:48 AM
I thought the new Crue was kind of meh. Not a song I see myself going out of my way to play again. But I guess it’s cool that they released a new song.

Yeah, I'm not hitting play again. I kind of just wish they'd go away at this point. (and I do consider myself generally a MC fan)
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 26, 2024, 12:56:08 PM: Quote from: cramx3 on April 26, 2024, 11:43:32 AM
Yeah, I'm not hitting play again. I kind of just wish they'd go away at this point. (and I do consider myself generally a MC fan)

I consider myself an 80s MC fan.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on April 26, 2024, 01:12:54 PM: New Crue song is awful, just like any of their output since New Tattoo.

The new Accept is alright, but it lacks the punch and the songs of the last album. I don't see myself playing this album very much compared to the other Tornillo albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 26, 2024, 02:40:23 PM: Quote from: Grappler on April 26, 2024, 01:12:54 PM
The new Accept is alright, but it lacks the punch and the songs of the last album. I don't see myself playing this album very much compared to the other Tornillo albums.

I played it at work (as background music), and I'm listening now with headphones, which is a much better listen.

To me, generally, lineups matter, and I've been disappointed that it's now just Wolf left after Herman Frank and (especially) Peter Baltes have fallen off. Neither were on Too Mean To Die, and I love that album. It was a grower, and I suspect this one will be as well.
Andy Sneap has really done a great job of capturing what Accept is all about, and Wolf really is strong enough to pull the whole thing off.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2024, 03:41:07 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 26, 2024, 02:40:23 PM
I played it at work (as background music), and I'm listening now with headphones, which is a much better listen.

To me, generally, lineups matter, and I've been disappointed that it's now just Wolf left after Herman Frank and (especially) Peter Baltes have fallen off. Neither were on Too Mean To Die, and I love that album. It was a grower, and I suspect this one will be as well.
Andy Sneap has really done a great job of capturing what Accept is all about, and Wolf really is strong enough to pull the whole thing off.

I have to go into this album with the same mindset. I didn't really dig TMTD at first but I was surprised how much it grew on me. I'll check this new one next week.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: ozzy554 on April 27, 2024, 04:21:08 PM: I don't think the new Crue song is awful.......its far too bland for that. Doesn't even sound like Motley Crue it's just generic rock song. Nothing really stands out in it and it's really missing Mick's distinctive tone. At least something like Saints of Los Angeles sounded like they were trying and had a bit more oomph to it. This is 100% a band on auto pilot and not even trying to hide it.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 27, 2024, 04:23:24 PM: Quote from: ozzy554 on April 27, 2024, 04:21:08 PM
At least something like Saints of Los Angeles sounded like they were trying and had a bit more oomph to it.

I actually bought this when it came out after hearing the title track, which I thought was fantastic. I didn't think the rest of the album lived up to it though, and haven't really listened to it since then.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2024, 04:25:56 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 25, 2024, 08:06:28 PM
Nice. Gotta check that out. Hammerfall also released a new song today which sounds like...Hammerfall.

And that's fine by me.

Checked this out and yes this is the perfect description. Awful fucking video but the song was strong.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 27, 2024, 04:27:27 PM: If I remember correctly, Saints of Los Angeles (pretty good title track) and Nostradamus came out the same time, I might have bought them at the same time. After listening to these two albums, this might have been one of the reasons I only listen to classic rock and don't care for anything new lol.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2024, 04:40:48 PM: Quote from: jjrock88 on April 27, 2024, 04:27:27 PM
If I remember correctly, Saints of Los Angeles (pretty good title track) and Nostradamus came out the same time, I might have bought them at the same time. After listening to these two albums, this might have been one of the reasons I only listen to classic rock and don't care for anything new lol.

:lol
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 27, 2024, 04:43:29 PM: Quote from: wolfking on April 27, 2024, 04:25:56 PM
Checked this out and yes this is the perfect description. Awful fucking video but the song was strong.

I really liked their last album. I still don't think their music has the same...charisma? that they they had in the Rosen/Elmgren years, but Jaocim Cans is a treasure. So glad I finally got to see them last year.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2024, 05:02:11 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 27, 2024, 04:43:29 PM
I really liked their last album. I still don't think their music has the same...charisma? that they they had in the Rosen/Elmgren years, but Jaocim Cans is a treasure. So glad I finally got to see them last year.

Last album was surprisingly great. Definitely something missing from the first 3 albums though, you're right. They were never the same after Elmgren left IMO. They had a major lull but come back consistently good the last couple of albums.
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: Grappler on April 27, 2024, 07:27:15 PM: Quote from: TAC on April 26, 2024, 02:40:23 PM
I played it at work (as background music), and I'm listening now with headphones, which is a much better listen.

I forgot to listen to it on my earbuds today while cutting the grass, but I'm giving it a second or third listen now and I'm digging the songs more than my initial listen. It's amazing how consistent the band has been over the last six records.

As for the new Crue, it sucks and I agree with the comment about it being generic. I loved the title track to Saints of LA, but haven't cared for anything else. I remember really liking New Tattoo when it came out. I think Nikki kind of forgot how to write kickass Crue songs after going full-on contemporary radio rock with Sixx AM (which I never got into).
Title: Re: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!
Post by: TAC on April 27, 2024, 07:29:41 PM: Quote from: Grappler on April 27, 2024, 07:27:15 PM
I forgot to listen to it on my earbuds today while cutting the grass, but I'm giving it a second or third listen now and I'm digging the songs more than my initial listen. It's amazing how consistent the band has been over the last six records.

If anything, it takes a couple of songs to get going but it hits a sweet spot in the middle.