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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: KevShmev on February 07, 2018, 06:38:02 PM
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You can vote for up to 7.
I will go with:
Revelation (Mother Earth)
No More Tears
Diary of a Madman
Zombie Stomp
You Can't Kill Rock and Roll
Mr. Crowley
Mama, I'm Coming Home
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I voted for Diary of a Madman twice because it’s that great.
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I voted for:
Mr. Crowley
Diary Of A Madman
See You On The Other Side
Mama I'm Coming Home
Over The Mountain
Revelation (Mother Earth)
My 7th selection, had it been listed, would have been Waiting For Darkness.
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Out of these I voted for;
Diary of a Madman
The Ultimate Sin
Over the Mountain
Revelation
Shot in the Dark
Mr Crowley
Bark at the Moon
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Pretty tough but without thinking too much.......
Diary of a Madman
Mr Crowley
No More Tears
Killer of Giants
Revelation
Bark At The Moon
You can't Kill Rock and Roll
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Yay, more votes for Mr. Crowley! ;D
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Yay, more votes for Mr. Crowley! ;D
I think 95% of Ozzy fans would easily pick Mr. Crowley given the list of songs and the ability to choose 7 songs.
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I'm still serenaded to this day by it. I ran into a guy I went to high school with a few weeks ago. I haven't seen him in almost 10 years, and as soon as he sees me, he immediately breaks into "Mr. Crowley.".
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I didn't check off Mr. Crowley before submitting. Oops... But I did get the others.
Over the Mountain
Crazy Train
Bark at the Moon
Mama, I'm Coming Home
Some of the others on the list are extremely annoying to me, and I wish Hellraiser was on there because that's one of my favorites too.
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One of my favs that was underrated IMO I thought was Breaking all the Rules
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Diary of a Madman
No More Tears
Suicide Solution
A Shot in the Dark
You Can't Kill Rock and Roll
Killer of Giants
I Don't Know
Limited to 7, these are the 2 honorable mentions from the list for me:
Bark at the Moon and Crazy Train.
Other songs that would've been within that 7 had they been included on your list are:
Waiting for Darkness (one of my all-time favorite Ozzy tracks), Breaking All the Rules and Fire in the Sky.
My 7th selection, had it been listed, would have been Waiting For Darkness.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who rates this song highly. :tup
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1. Mr. Crowley
2. Diary of a Madman
3. Killer of Giants
4. Revelation (Mother Earth)
5. Perry Mason
6. Centre of Eternity
7. The Ultimate Sin
Mr. Crowley is by far my favorite. Fantastic song with my favorite guitar solo growing up.
The Ultimate Sin and No More Tears was a toss up.
Waiting for Darkness would have been #2 for me. Back on Earth would have made my list if it were in the poll. Not much to the song, but I've always really liked it. S.A.T.O. might have made it as well. Always liked that as a lead-in to Diary.
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Diary of a Madman
The Ultimate Sin
Over the Mountain
A Shot in the Dark
Flying High Again
Mr. Crowley
Bark at the Moon
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Crowley, Crazy Train, Want You
Yeah, you guessed it, I'm a casual listener and I don't follow Ozzy's carreer at all.
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Missing my favourite Ozzy track though, Steal Away The Night.
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Tough to choose. For me, Blizzard, Diary, and Bark at the Moon were essential albums that just had SO many great songs. But after that, I pretty much stopped caring, with the exception of No More Tears, which has some fantastic songs as well (the title track being perhaps my favorite Ozzy song of all time).
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Diary of a Madman
The Ultimate Sin
Over the Mountain
A Shot in the Dark
Flying High Again
Mr. Crowley
Bark at the Moon
My top 2.
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You know, the interesting thing for me is, for every Ozzy song that I like, I can't say I really like it because of Ozzy. It's more that I like it in spite of Ozzy.
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You know, the interesting thing for me is, for every Ozzy song that I like, I can't say I really like it because of Ozzy. It's more that I like it in spite of Ozzy.
This is exactly how I feel, too, bosk. In all the Ozzy songs that annoy me, it's usually Ozzy himself that annoys me, not the rest of the band. The only non-Ozzy thing that bothers me is the break in No More Tears - I strongly dislike everything about it and wish I could rip it straight out.
Every time I hear Bark at the Moon I think of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. That was actually where I first heard that song, as a kid, playing it on my PC. I remember getting on a motorcycle driving through town and then suddenly that riff came on... one of those moments you don't realize is life changing until many years later, but that's one of them. What an incredible song!
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Ozzy doesn't bother me. It's like putting on an worn-out dirty old pair of sneakers. It ain't pretty but it just feels so comfortable, you can't even feel them on your feet .
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You know, the interesting thing for me is, for every Ozzy song that I like, I can't say I really like it because of Ozzy. It's more that I like it in spite of Ozzy.
This is exactly how I feel, too, bosk. In all the Ozzy songs that annoy me, it's usually Ozzy himself that annoys me, not the rest of the band. The only non-Ozzy thing that bothers me is the break in No More Tears - I strongly dislike everything about it and wish I could rip it straight out.
Oh, wow, really? To me, it contributes to that overall uneasiness and twisted atmosphere the song is supposed to conjure up. So I feel it is really fitting and purposeful, and it totally works for me. :dunno:
Every time I hear Bark at the Moon I think of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. That was actually where I first heard that song, as a kid, playing it on my PC. I remember getting on a motorcycle driving through town and then suddenly that riff came on... one of those moments you don't realize is life changing until many years later, but that's one of them. What an incredible song!
Funny you should say that. That song was pretty influential for me as well, although I was listening to it back when it actually came out. That riff (and the solo as well, for that matter) really made Jake one of my favorite guitar players. Out of curiosity, have you ever listened to Badlands? Voodoo Highway and Dusk (the latter of which was released years after the fact, and after Ray died) are two of the best hard rock albums by anyone. They aren't quite what one might expect from Jake's playing. But they are truly outstanding albums. The first album isn't bad either, but they hadn't quite gelled as a band, and it doesn't sound like they had really figured out what direction they wanted to go, as it sounds like kind of an '80s-by-numbers album. The latter two albums are much grittier, blues-based hard rock.
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Flying High Again
Revelation Mother Earth
Over The Mountain
Crazy Train
Mr. Crowley
No More Tears
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This is exactly how I feel, too, bosk. In all the Ozzy songs that annoy me, it's usually Ozzy himself that annoys me, not the rest of the band. The only non-Ozzy thing that bothers me is the break in No More Tears - I strongly dislike everything about it and wish I could rip it straight out.
Oh, wow, really? To me, it contributes to that overall uneasiness and twisted atmosphere the song is supposed to conjure up. So I feel it is really fitting and purposeful, and it totally works for me. :dunno:
Yeah, man. I can't stand it. It does add to that vibe, but at the same time I feel it brings the song to an abrupt halt. It has a good thing going and then it crams that in, it's trying to do too much in my opinion. Killing a good flow like that disappoints me big time.
Funny you should say that. That song was pretty influential for me as well, although I was listening to it back when it actually came out. That riff (and the solo as well, for that matter) really made Jake one of my favorite guitar players. Out of curiosity, have you ever listened to Badlands? Voodoo Highway and Dusk (the latter of which was released years after the fact, and after Ray died) are two of the best hard rock albums by anyone. They aren't quite what one might expect from Jake's playing. But they are truly outstanding albums. The first album isn't bad either, but they hadn't quite gelled as a band, and it doesn't sound like they had really figured out what direction they wanted to go, as it sounds like kind of an '80s-by-numbers album. The latter two albums are much grittier, blues-based hard rock.
That's cool. I have never listened to Badlands. In all honesty I'm not terribly keen on discovering new rock or metal bands these days, but if you say they're that good I'll check them out.
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Ozzy brings back soooo many memories of high school... I'm pretty much Team Randy though I like Zak and Jake; Ozzy has completely lost me on the last two records.
I picked FOUR:
Diary of a Madman (Diary, the album, is in my top five albums of all time
Flying High Again
You Can't Kill Rock and Roll
Revelation (Mother Earth)
I would have voted for Steal Away, Fire In The Sky, and Tonight had they been on the list. I've said it before, but I waste no opportunity to re-say it: the fade out of Randy's solo in Tonight is one of the most egregious fouls in rock and roll history. A crime against humanity. A violation of the Geneva Convention. When the recent deluxe version of Diary was announced, early track lists had an "extended version" of Tonight, and I would have bought the set just for that alone, but alas it was dropped before the actual release. Thanks, Obama.
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Funny you should say that. That song was pretty influential for me as well, although I was listening to it back when it actually came out. That riff (and the solo as well, for that matter) really made Jake one of my favorite guitar players. Out of curiosity, have you ever listened to Badlands? Voodoo Highway and Dusk (the latter of which was released years after the fact, and after Ray died) are two of the best hard rock albums by anyone. They aren't quite what one might expect from Jake's playing. But they are truly outstanding albums. The first album isn't bad either, but they hadn't quite gelled as a band, and it doesn't sound like they had really figured out what direction they wanted to go, as it sounds like kind of an '80s-by-numbers album. The latter two albums are much grittier, blues-based hard rock.
That's cool. I have never listened to Badlands. In all honesty I'm not terribly keen on discovering new rock or metal bands these days, but if you say they're that good I'll check them out.
Dusk is a really interesting album. They had the songs written as demos, but hadn't really sat down and fine-tuned them. They got together in studio in '92 I think it was for about 6 hours and one-taked almost the entire album, song-by-song. The interesting thing about that is that Ray only had about half the lyrics written, and just ad-libbed and/or scatted. It does have the kind of raw vibe that you would get from doing a one-take in a studio (I think the songs were cleaned up a bit after the fact, but not much). The intent was to have these one-takes recorded as demos to shop to labels. But the band broke up not long after. They released it as-is in '98.
The lyrics tend to be pretty dark and gritty. I think Ray knew he was dying at the time, which I think contributed to that.
The album is out of print, but you can listen to it online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk1WhqfZEHg
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Nice to hear someone else who thinks Voodoo Highway kills the debut - there's not many of us :)
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Nice to hear someone else who thinks Voodoo Highway kills the debut - there's not many of us :)
It took me awhile. I was really into the slick, polished sound of the late '80s, and the debut captured that well. But over time, I was able to understand and really appreciate what they were going for on Voodoo Highway, and thought they killed it. To bring this back to the topic somewhat, that album (and Dusk as well) really get back to what I refer to as Jake's very "kinetic"1 style of playing that the Jake-era Ozzy albums showcased, even though the rough, gritty, blues influence also make those album sound very different from the Ozzy albums at the same time.
1 What I mean by this is that he has a style of playing that just sound, or rather feels, like it is always in motion and always changing. You take the main riff in a given Jake song, and it tends to be very busy, and Jake tends to add subtle changes every few times through, whether it is subtly changing the riff, throwing in little mini-solos, runs, accents, or flourishes. It's like, every few bars, the same riff becomes a different riff because he changes it up, and then changes it again, and then changes it again. That's a hallmark of Jake's playing that I love. It was there during his time in Ozzy, but is a lot more noticeable in his work in Badlands. I remember having this conversation with Cozmo, and he thought that was a great description of Jake's playing.
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Stadler, I tried to return your PM but it says your inbox is full. Likely full of commas, semicolons, and other assorted punctuation.
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I went with No More Tears (my favorite Ozzy song), Over the Mountain, Flying High Again, Mr. Crowley, Miracle Man, Bark at the Moon, and Mama I’m Coming Home.
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Diary of a Madman
Over the Mountain
A Shot in the Dark
Flying High Again
You Can't Kill Rock and Roll
Killer of Giants
I Don't Know
One song I love not on the list is Fire In The Sky.
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One song I love not on the list is Fire In The Sky.
That's had more than one mention. I always felt that it had about 50 too many choruses :lol That made me struggle with what would otherwise have been a favorite. One that I loved as a kid was a song that was a hidden bonus on my cassette (Hero).
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I voted for Diary of a Madman twice because it’s that great.
Would that I could.
I'm honestly shocked to see Bark at the Moon leading (although I voted for it). Diary is the overwhelming best song on this list.
I went with:
Diary
Over the Mountain
Revelation
Rock 'n' Roll Rebel
Centre of Eternity
Crazy Train
Bark
Honorable mentions to Suicide Solution, Shot in the Dark, Flying High Again and Mr. Crowley.
Had Waiting for Darkness been an option, I'd have picked it over R&R Rebel or Centre of Eternity. Also noticeably absent from the list were Steal Away the Night and SATO. I lost interest in Ozzy after he became a caricature of himself and hired Mr. Pinch Harmonic.
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Stadler, I tried to return your PM but it says your inbox is full. Likely full of commas, semicolons, and other assorted punctuation.
Done.
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No More Tears is such a badass song with an even more badass guitar solo. However, when that solo finishes the rest of the song doesn't interest me anymore. Happens to me every single time.
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Also noticeably absent from the list were Steal Away the Night and SATO. I lost interest in Ozzy after he became a caricature of himself and hired Mr. Pinch Harmonic.
I love those two songs as well - SATO doesn't get enough love.
Mr Pinch Harmonic was a shock to me at the time - I was a massive Jake fan (The Ultimate Sin was my first "metal album" after I saw Jake shredding it up on the Lightning Strikes video) and I raced off to buy NRFTW on the day of release and was super disappointed. I grew to like the album over time and love No More Tears but beyond some very good songs on Ozzmosis I have never had much interest in the later material.
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Also noticeably absent from the list were Steal Away the Night and SATO. I lost interest in Ozzy after he became a caricature of himself and hired Mr. Pinch Harmonic.
I love those two songs as well - SATO doesn't get enough love.
Mr Pinch Harmonic was a shock to me at the time - I was a massive Jake fan (The Ultimate Sin was my first "metal album" after I saw Jake shredding it up on the Lightning Strikes video) and I raced off to buy NRFTW on the day of release and was super disappointed. I grew to like the album over time and love No More Tears but beyond some very good songs on Ozzmosis I have never had much interest in the later material.
SATO and Diary back to back are 10 of the best minutes on any album ever.
My first "new" Ozzy album was Bark. I wasn't yet a fan when Randy was still alive. I thought Jake was good but not great. Bark was a great album. Ultimate Sin was disappointing to me. By the time No Rest came out, I was really into Queensryche and Fates Warning, and Ozzy was becoming a bit too cartoonish for my taste. I dutifully bought No Rest, but it never really clicked for me (and somewhere along the way, I got rid of it). I believe we own the next two albums (No More Tears and whatever came after it), but those were because my wife like Mama I'm Comin' Home. I'm not sure I've ever listened to them.
As far as Mr. PH, he was ok on No Rest (in other words, I don't think he wasn't the reason that album didn't click for me), but every time I've seen/heard him since, he has annoyed the living fuck out of me. He did the Star Spangled Banner at a hockey game once, and I wanted do great violence. Pinch harmonics are a fine little trick to use sparingly, NOT ON EVERY OTHER NOTE! Ok...I feel better.
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Damn, only one other person loves Zombie Stomp as much as I do.
I really thought Revelation (Mother Earth) would contend for the most popular.
Bark at the Moon is great, so I have no beef with it being at the top. :metal
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One song I love not on the list is Fire In The Sky.
That's had more than one mention. I always felt that it had about 50 too many choruses :lol That made me struggle with what would otherwise have been a favorite. One that I loved as a kid was a song that was a hidden bonus on my cassette (Hero).
I absolutely love Hero.
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Damn, only one other person loves Zombie Stomp as much as I do.
I really thought Revelation (Mother Earth) would contend for the most popular.
Bark at the Moon is great, so I have no beef with it being at the top. :metal
I’m the other Zombie Stomper! No More Tears is so far and away my favorite Ozzy album, the other ones are not even close.
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Am I the only one that thinks The Ultimate Sin is a huge step down from Bark At The Moon (I'm talking albums..).
My Top 5 Ozzy albums are:
1. Diary
2. Blizzard
3. Bark At The Moon
4. Ozzmosis
5. No More Tears
Yes, you read that right. I LOVE Ozzmosis.
I can make it through The Ultimate Sin, but I don't care for anything else he's done. I think No Rest blows.
My Top 5 Ozzy songs are:
1. Diary Of A Madman
2. Mr. Crowley
3. Waiting For Darkness
4. See You On The Other Side
5. Over The Mountain
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I find Bark At The Moon a very weak album.
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I find Bark At The Moon a very weak album.
Have you ever heard it? ;D
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Yup. It always dissapointed me.
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That doesn't even make any sense.
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:lol
Tell me about it.
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:lol
You guys must be the minority. Just about all of my friends who are Ozzy fans thinks it's his worst release of all the early stuff.
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You guys must be the minority. Just about all of my friends who are Ozzy fans thinks it's his worst release of all the early stuff.
A lot of metalheads seem to think that The Ultimate Sin is some wussy album and that Bark At The Moon is amazing. Zakk Wylde always said the same himself but I have never really understood that. Sure The Ultimate Sin had some glammy elements (including that awesome glitter costume in the Lightning Strikes vid :lol ) but I must admit I always thought the general sound on TUS was definitely heavier if anything.
I love them both but have a bias towards the one that started it all for me - The Ultimate Sin. I would also much rather listen to the Randy Rhoads Tribute version of all the Blizzard songs - far heavier and more lively versions.
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You guys must be the minority. Just about all of my friends who are Ozzy fans thinks it's his worst release of all the early stuff.
Yes, it is the worst release of the Diary-Blizzard-BATM run. Yes. the worst. It's still his 3rd best album. I didn't even realize it was debatable.
Kingshmegland, you've been awful argumentative around here lately. :lol
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What? This isn't an argument. It's fact! :lol. It never really clicked with me. Give me TUS.
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The Queen agrees with me. Come at us bro. :lol
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No way I'm going after the Queen. :lol
"Queen, TAC is being mean, can I hide behind you?" :lol
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More like "Pull up a folding chair and watch her tear up that bitch".
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Time for someone else to post in this thread. :lol
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I remember Bark at the Moon and The Ultimate Sin being about equal; both have 3-4 songs I still go back to and then I disregard the rest.
And I agree about Ozzmosis, TAC. I went for mostly his most popular songs on this here poll, but the deep tracks from that album are where it's at - Thunder Underground, Tomorrow and My Jekyll Doesn't Hide are all really good :metal :metal, and My Little Man has always been one of my favorites.
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My Little Man is amazing.
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Thanks to this thread I think I will spin every album after The Ultimate Sin tomorrow.
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My work here is done. :metal
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Thanks to this thread, I will spin every album before The Ultimate Sin tomorrow.
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:lol :lol
My Little Man is amazing.
It has some really strong competition, but the guitar solo from that song is one of my favorites from any Ozzy solo song.
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Diary of a Madman
Believer (no love for this? :()
Mr. Crowley
The Ultimate Sin
Killer of Giants
Shot in the Dark
Over the Mountain
Had to leave out Revelation (Mother Earth), You Can't Kill Rock and Roll and Bark at the Moon. My favorite out of the ones not on this list is Waiting for Darkness :metal
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You guys must be the minority. Just about all of my friends who are Ozzy fans thinks it's his worst release of all the early stuff.
I kinda lean toward you on this one, King, though to be fair, I kind of view them as a pair. I don't think there's a huge difference between BATM and TUS, but I certainly don't think Bark towers over Sin either. The cover is ATROCIOUS, the title track is a cartoon, and the chorus to Center of Eternity gives me vertigo. But then again, I don't like Shit In The Dark, either, that cover is almost as bad, and Thank God I Don't Have To Listen to Thank God For The Bomb ever again if I don't have to.
FYI, my top five Ozzy solo songs:
1. Tonight
2. You Can't Kill Rock And Roll/Flying High Again/Diary Of A Madman (I did that not to cheat, but to not overwhelm with one album)
3. Fire In The Sky
4. Fool Like You
5. One Up The B-Side
Kev really did his job here; I'm now really into listening to old(er) Ozzy again. For a while he was my favorite artist, and I can remember EXACTLY where I was when I heard Randy died (having breakfast with my parents at Steve's Diner in Shelton, CT, and I read it in the Daily News). A Top Five for me is ridiculous; I'd have a hard time with a Top 25 to be honest.
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I thought Bark at the Moon was a great album. I thought the highlight songs were really good. And the rest of the album, whether you want to call it deep cuts or filler, was also really solid all the way through. It was definitely an album where, for my tastes, I could repeatedly listen all the way through without losing interest, which is something I canNOT say about a lot of albums from that era.
The Ultimate Sin, on the other hand, really felt uninteresting to me. A friend bought it first. I listened, and it just didn't click with me at all and didn't feel nearly as strong. Although it had a handful of catchy songs (Shot, the title song, and Killer of Giants), none of those really felt compelling to me. And none of the deep cuts stood out.
So yeah, Tim, I'm with you on Bark at the Moon being FAR superior, at least for my tastes.
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As far as the entire discography, it's hard to rate. As I kind of mentioned above, I got into Ozzy as one of the first real hard rock bands that started to form my tastes in that sort of music, but he then became a pretty big turnoff. I got Blizzard of Oz very early on as one of my first hard rock albums, and I listened to it to death. Great album. I then got Speak of the Devil because it was one of the only two other albums available on Columbia House at the time. I listened to that album a TON while on my paper route as a kid. So both of those albums burned into my brain. That would be followed very shortly by Bark at the Moon, which got the same paper route treatment. If memory serves, I caught up and got Diary a bit after that. And for whatever reason, just didn't listen to it as much, even though I recall it being pretty good. After that, Ozzy just lost me. When No More Tears came out, I really liked that one as well. But that was pretty much it for me. Nothing afterward clicked. So those five albums are really the only ones I was every really interested in. Ranking them, I would probably go:
1. Blizzard: I'm not sure it is the "best." But it holds a special place for me.
2. Bark at the Moon: Gets the nod for the #2 spot for just being so solid and consistent.
3. No More Tears: The title song is, IMO, far and away the best song Ozzy has ever done. The rest of the album is good. But not nearly as many standouts.
4. Speak: Really good live performance of those Sabbath classics.
5. Diary: I remember it being pretty good. But I don't remember much more than that.
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Blizzard and Diary remind me a lot of Metallica's Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets. If you took the first half of side 1 of Master, the second half of side 1 of Lightning and the second halves of side 2 of both albums, you'd have a near perfect album:
1. Battery
2. Master
3. Bell
4. Fade
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5. Damage
6. Orion
7. Creep
8. Ktulu
(this wouldn't have worked in terms of vinyl side lengths, but you get the point)
It works very much the same way with Blizzard and Diary:
1. Over the Mountain
2. Crazy Train
3. Flying High Again
4. Revelation
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5. Crowley
6. SATO
7. Suicide Solution
8. Diary
9. Steal Away
I'd be a little bothered with losing Sanitarium from the Metallica combination and You Can't Kill R&R from the Ozzy combo, but something's gotta give (although of you disregard vinyl side lengths, both could be easily included on standard CDs.
As far as Bark and Sin go, for my money, I'm on the same page as Bosk. Bark is overwhelmingly superior. Waiting for Darkness is a top 3 Ozzy song (and criminally underrated, although obviously not on this forum). Bar, Rebel and Eternity are very strong songs. The rest of the songs are average to slightly above average (although So Tired -- while somewhat novel at the time -- didn't really meet its potential). On Sin, Shot in the Dark is a much improved version of So Tired. The rest of the album is somewhere between slightly above average to below average. Nothing on the album is better than anything on Bark (except for So Tired). If I were combining the two, the only songs I would take from Sin are Shot and maybe the title track.
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Kev really did his job here; I'm now really into listening to old(er) Ozzy again. For a while he was my favorite artist, and I can remember EXACTLY where I was when I heard Randy died (having breakfast with my parents at Steve's Diner in Shelton, CT, and I read it in the Daily News). A Top Five for me is ridiculous; I'd have a hard time with a Top 25 to be honest.
That he did. Have Ozzy on shuffle during my commute the last day. Forgot how good of a song Over the Mountain really is.
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Hasn't been talked about much, but am I the only one that thinks "Suicide Solution" is the low point of the Rhoads Years? I really do not like that song very much at all.
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No way! That riff is just a monster. And the vocals go with it very well. Great song.
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When I was 18, our band played Steal Away The Night at a battle of the bands. I loved playing that song.
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When I was 18, our band played Steal Away The Night at a battle of the bands. I loved playing that song.
What instrument did you play?
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When I was 18, our band played Steal Away The Night at a battle of the bands. I loved playing that song.
What instrument did you play?
Beer
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When I was 18, our band played Steal Away The Night at a battle of the bands. I loved playing that song.
What instrument did you play?
Guitar. I have some cassettes that I should turn into a CD if they haven't disintegrated yet.
When I was 18, our band played Steal Away The Night at a battle of the bands. I loved playing that song.
What instrument did you play?
Beer
Slide Beer.
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Hasn't been talked about much, but am I the only one that thinks "Suicide Solution" is the low point of the Rhoads Years? I really do not like that song very much at all.
I think it's probably middle of the pack, which means I think it's overrated. It's an interesting song in that it doesn't really have a true chorus, and I like the "'Cause you feel life's unreal" and "Breaking laws, knocking doors" sections (which feel more like bridges than choruses), but the plodding quarter note feel beat of the verses is monotonous and renders the song as a whole pretty boring. Of the Randy-era songs in this poll, I'd rank it second to last (only ahead of Believer). I'd also rank it ahead of I Don't Know, Goodbye to Romance and No Bone Movies and and probably on the same level as Little Dolls and Tonight.
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Hasn't been talked about much, but am I the only one that thinks "Suicide Solution" is the low point of the Rhoads Years? I really do not like that song very much at all.
I think it's probably middle of the pack, which means I think it's overrated. It's an interesting song in that it doesn't really have a true chorus, and I like the "'Cause you feel life's unreal" and "Breaking laws, knocking doors" sections (which feel more like bridges than choruses), but the plodding quarter note feel beat of the verses is monotonous and renders the song as a whole pretty boring.
That's a fair analysis.
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Hasn't been talked about much, but am I the only one that thinks "Suicide Solution" is the low point of the Rhoads Years? I really do not like that song very much at all.
I can't go that far, as it is certainly better than Goodbye to Romance, Tonight and probably No Bone Movies, but I definitely don't think it is a notable song at all. I always figured the song became noteworthy because of the controversy that ensued years later because of the lyrics.
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I love Goodbye to Romance. :-[
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Diary of a Madman
No More Tears
Mr Crowley
Crazy Train
Bark at the Moon
B.Lee
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Hasn't been talked about much, but am I the only one that thinks "Suicide Solution" is the low point of the Rhoads Years? I really do not like that song very much at all.
I think it's probably middle of the pack, which means I think it's overrated. It's an interesting song in that it doesn't really have a true chorus, and I like the "'Cause you feel life's unreal" and "Breaking laws, knocking doors" sections (which feel more like bridges than choruses), but the plodding quarter note feel beat of the verses is monotonous and renders the song as a whole pretty boring. Of the Randy-era songs in this poll, I'd rank it second to last (only ahead of Believer). I'd also rank it ahead of I Don't Know, Goodbye to Romance and No Bone Movies and and probably on the same level as Little Dolls and Tonight.
You had me until "Tonight". "Tonight" is to "Suicide Solution" as "Fur Elise" is to "My farts". "Tonight" is my single favorite Ozzy song ever, and I'm not exactly a casual Ozzy fan (only meaning, I'm considering the whole catalogue, not just a couple of the hit albums).
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Anyone like the song S.I.N.? It never really gets talked about but it's definitely a highlight of NMT for me. So damn catchy.
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You had me until "Tonight". "Tonight" is to "Suicide Solution" as "Fur Elise" is to "My farts". "Tonight" is my single favorite Ozzy song ever, and I'm not exactly a casual Ozzy fan (only meaning, I'm considering the whole catalogue, not just a couple of the hit albums).
Tonight is better than I gave it credit for last night, but being a bottom 3 or 4 song from Blizzard/Diary combined is not shameful at all, although Goodbye to Romance blows (sorry, Adami), and No Bone Movies is about as generic as it gets.
Anyone like the song S.I.N.? It never really gets talked about but it's definitely a highlight of NMT for me. So damn catchy.
I like it, but I don't love it.
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Yeah, Suicide Solution is pretty generic - I can't believe Ozzy has performed it at almost every show for all these years.
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Very tough to choose seven.
Suicide Solution
Mr. Crowley
Believer
I Don't Know
Crazy Train
Over The Mountain
Diary Of A Madman
Honorable mention: Mama I'm Coming Home
Biggest Omission: Sato
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Yeah, Suicide Solution is pretty generic - I can't believe Ozzy has performed it at almost every show for all these years.
I listened to "Blizzard" today and I stand by my assessment. Least favorite song on the record. The riff is excellent, the solo is excellent, the lyrics are okay, the verses okay, the "bridge/chorus" needs something else, and the "breakdown" is annoying as hell. BODGE! FLAPS! BODGE! FLAPS!! I do love the line "Now you live inside a bottle, the reaper's traveling at full throttle", though.
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Hasn't been talked about much, but am I the only one that thinks "Suicide Solution" is the low point of the Rhoads Years? I really do not like that song very much at all.
I think it's probably middle of the pack, which means I think it's overrated. It's an interesting song in that it doesn't really have a true chorus, and I like the "'Cause you feel life's unreal" and "Breaking laws, knocking doors" sections (which feel more like bridges than choruses), but the plodding quarter note feel beat of the verses is monotonous and renders the song as a whole pretty boring. Of the Randy-era songs in this poll, I'd rank it second to last (only ahead of Believer). I'd also rank it ahead of I Don't Know, Goodbye to Romance and No Bone Movies and and probably on the same level as Little Dolls and Tonight.
You had me until "Tonight". "Tonight" is to "Suicide Solution" as "Fur Elise" is to "My farts". "Tonight" is my single favorite Ozzy song ever, and I'm not exactly a casual Ozzy fan (only meaning, I'm considering the whole catalogue, not just a couple of the hit albums).
I had a feeling you'd jump on this. For me, Tonight just doesn't do it. It's a nice song, and as someone else said, being maybe the sixth best song on Diary of a Madman isn't a bad thing. After reading your comments about the outro guitar solo, I listened to the song and particularly focused on that, but I'd argue that they didn't fade it out soon enough. It's like the last 1:45 of the song. Good grief!
Hasn't been talked about much, but am I the only one that thinks "Suicide Solution" is the low point of the Rhoads Years? I really do not like that song very much at all.
I can't go that far, as it is certainly better than Goodbye to Romance, Tonight and probably No Bone Movies, but I definitely don't think it is a notable song at all. I always figured the song became noteworthy because of the controversy that ensued years later because of the lyrics.
I think you're right. Suicide Solution was "infamous" for the lyrics and the stupid lawsuit. As a high school kid, it was almost forbidden fruit. It also got more notoriety (undeserved IMO) for the extended guitar solo on the Tribute album.
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Diary, Revelation, Flying, Crowley, and Believer. Left two spots for S.A.T.O. and Steal Away.
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Hasn't been talked about much, but am I the only one that thinks "Suicide Solution" is the low point of the Rhoads Years? I really do not like that song very much at all.
I think it's probably middle of the pack, which means I think it's overrated. It's an interesting song in that it doesn't really have a true chorus, and I like the "'Cause you feel life's unreal" and "Breaking laws, knocking doors" sections (which feel more like bridges than choruses), but the plodding quarter note feel beat of the verses is monotonous and renders the song as a whole pretty boring. Of the Randy-era songs in this poll, I'd rank it second to last (only ahead of Believer). I'd also rank it ahead of I Don't Know, Goodbye to Romance and No Bone Movies and and probably on the same level as Little Dolls and Tonight.
You had me until "Tonight". "Tonight" is to "Suicide Solution" as "Fur Elise" is to "My farts". "Tonight" is my single favorite Ozzy song ever, and I'm not exactly a casual Ozzy fan (only meaning, I'm considering the whole catalogue, not just a couple of the hit albums).
I had a feeling you'd jump on this. For me, Tonight just doesn't do it. It's a nice song, and as someone else said, being maybe the sixth best song on Diary of a Madman isn't a bad thing. After reading your comments about the outro guitar solo, I listened to the song and particularly focused on that, but I'd argue that they didn't fade it out soon enough. It's like the last 1:45 of the song. Good grief!
Yes, it's long, but we're not talking about me noodling at Guitar Center. This Randy Frickin' Rhoads! :)
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Crazy Train might be my least favorite Heavy Metal song ever.
On topic: No More Tears, The Ultimate Sin, Bark at the Moon, Mr. Crowley, Killer of Giants, Mama I'm Coming Home
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Hasn’t been mentioned yet here, but I love me some Secret Loser.
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Crazy Train might be my least favorite Heavy Metal song ever.
On topic: No More Tears, The Ultimate Sin, Bark at the Moon, Mr. Crowley, Killer of Giants, Mama I'm Coming Home
Guess you just had to be there. Now that it's used to start football games and sell minivans to soccermoms it's lost most of its appeal to me. In 1981 it was the end of the motherfucking world, though. For me it came out just at the right time for BoO to be one of my formative albums.
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^Yeah, that. It was a beast of a song. And, if you can listen to it objectively and forget how "mainstream" it has become, it still is. It's just hard to shake the baggage. But that's the thing about the passage of time. All the "rebellious" ones that listened to it back when it was fresh, cutting edge, and scary ARE the soccer moms and grandparents of today.
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^Yeah, that. It was a beast of a song. And, if you can listen to it objectively and forget how "mainstream" it has become, it still is. It's just hard to shake the baggage. But that's the thing about the passage of time. All the "rebellious" ones that listened to it back when it was fresh, cutting edge, and scary ARE the soccer moms and grandparents of today.
There were bands that to see live I had to cross picket lines of Bible thumpers waiving crosses and teling us we're condemned to hell. Those same bands play in the background at Safeway when I buy groceries now. Sammy Hagar and The Scorpions are Muzak now.
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^Yeah, that. It was a beast of a song. And, if you can listen to it objectively and forget how "mainstream" it has become, it still is. It's just hard to shake the baggage. But that's the thing about the passage of time. All the "rebellious" ones that listened to it back when it was fresh, cutting edge, and scary ARE the soccer moms and grandparents of today.
There were bands that to see live I had to cross picket lines of Bible thumpers waiving crosses and teling us we're condemned to hell. Those same bands play in the background at Safeway when I buy groceries now. Sammy Hagar and The Scorpions are Muzak now.
But still no Number of the Beast. At least SOME things are still sacred. :lol
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Crazy Train might be my least favorite Heavy Metal song ever.
On topic: No More Tears, The Ultimate Sin, Bark at the Moon, Mr. Crowley, Killer of Giants, Mama I'm Coming Home
Guess you just had to be there. Now that it's used to start football games and sell minivans to soccermoms it's lost most of its appeal to me. In 1981 it was the end of the motherfucking world, though. For me it came out just at the right time for BoO to be one of my formative albums.
This for sure (as well as Bosk's comments). When I was in my first band in 1987, this was a mandatory cover song, and I meticulously learned Bob Daisley's part as transcribed in Guitar for the Practicing Musician. The anticipation of the intro, waiting for that MONSTER riff to start. The fact that a goofy major chord progression with a "horsey" feel worked in a metal song. The pre-chorus and chorus about mental wounds driving Ozzy insane. One of the best 16 bar guitar solos ever. I only wished our drummer had a vibraslap for the intro!
Even though it's become overplayed and overused, I still appreciate and enjoy it for what it was at the time.
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^Yeah, that. It was a beast of a song. And, if you can listen to it objectively and forget how "mainstream" it has become, it still is. It's just hard to shake the baggage. But that's the thing about the passage of time. All the "rebellious" ones that listened to it back when it was fresh, cutting edge, and scary ARE the soccer moms and grandparents of today.
There were bands that to see live I had to cross picket lines of Bible thumpers waiving crosses and teling us we're condemned to hell. Those same bands play in the background at Safeway when I buy groceries now. Sammy Hagar and The Scorpions are Muzak now.
This. Outside the New Haven Coliseum (where I saw Maiden open for Priest, and where more of the harder "metal" shows played, whereas Barry Manilow and Neil Diamond played the Hartford Civic Center) there was always a guy wearing robes like Jesus and carrying a large wooden cross, and he had his "helpers" handing out pamphlets. I must've been at the show where he showed up first, because the first time I saw him he stood under what was a massive (like four stories) escalator and I can remember the beer raining down on them. He didn't stand there any time I saw him after that. :)
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I only wished our drummer had a vibraslap for the intro!
I hear you. When we used to play it, we didn't have one either. Then when we started doing Short Skirt, Long Jacket, our drummer insisted on getting one and wearing it out on that song. :lol
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Whoa, these posts are great. And you're right, actually: I guess I had to be there. A lot of my dislike for the song comes from how overplayed it is.
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I never get sick of hearing Crazy Train.
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Whoa, these posts are great. And you're right, actually: I guess I had to be there. A lot of my dislike for the song comes from how overplayed it is.
You have no idea. It's not just the co-opting of the music. I remember when Ozzy and Gene Simmons were dangerous and scary as shit. Now? They're caricatures of themselves, what with the reality TV and all that nonsense. There was a time when there was no video, no social media, no nothing. All you saw of your favorite bands was what was on the album cover (which wasn't much; think "Vol. 4") and if you got to see them live. There was MYSTERY. Now? You know how big Ozzy's cock is, you know what he has for breakfast, you know whether his post-nasal drip is acting up... it's too much.
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Whoa, these posts are great. And you're right, actually: I guess I had to be there. A lot of my dislike for the song comes from how overplayed it is.
You have no idea. It's not just the co-opting of the music. I remember when Ozzy and Gene Simmons were dangerous and scary as shit. Now? They're caricatures of themselves, what with the reality TV and all that nonsense. There was a time when there was no video, no social media, no nothing. All you saw of your favorite bands was what was on the album cover (which wasn't much; think "Vol. 4") and if you got to see them live. There was MYSTERY. Now? You know how big Ozzy's cock is, you know what he has for breakfast, you know whether his post-nasal drip is acting up... it's too much.
Speak for yourself, sir!
Seriously, though, this is right on point. Thirty-five years ago, these people weren't human. They were larger than life. Motley Crue was going to kidnap your children, rape your daughters and train your sons to commit satanic ritual sacrifices. In the late 1980s, I got a job with a law firm as a file clerk. At some point, the Southern California legal newspaper (The Daily Journal) published an article talking about how awful heavy metal music was. I'm sure it referenced the Ozzy and Judas Priest lawsuits. I was incensed by the stupidity in the article and almost wrote a letter to the editor (which I suppose was the closest thing to social media in those days). Good times!