Dream Theater self titled album discussion - [SPOILER FREE DISCUSSION ONLY]

[BlobVanDam]

Classic Rock Presents Prog: It's not THAT heavy folks, calm down. It still sounds like Dream Theater. And remember we also said more melodic and more proggy too!

Is that a real quote? It embarrasses me if the fanbase really whined enough to merit a response. Especially as there's absolutely nothing wrong with it being heavier.

It was just one fan who complained that DT is increasing it's heaviness coefficient with each step. Another poster seconded that and then the magazine replied with the quoted message.

Thanks to wasteland for the facts!

Because I was gonna say, there's not much to complain about in such a brief overview!

[Moor]

Classic Rock Presents Prog: It's not THAT heavy folks, calm down. It still sounds like Dream Theater. And remember we also said more melodic and more proggy too!

Is that a real quote? It embarrasses me if the fanbase really whined enough to merit a response. Especially as there's absolutely nothing wrong with it being heavier.

It was just one fan who complained that DT is increasing it's heaviness coefficient with each step. Another poster seconded that and then the magazine replied with the quoted message.

Can you please show us where to check this review?

[bosk1]

I hope by heavy they don't mean BMUBMD heavy

Thanks for the reminder!  *listening to BMU/BMD right now and loving every second of it*

[Labrie1984]

Maybe they're not allowed to be more concrete but that review could describe every DT album. Not helping at all (in my opinión, of course)

[TAC]

I'm a bit surprised promotional copies have been passed out already.  Nevertheless, melodic and heavy makes me very happy.

[Hanz Gruber]

DT isn't even my favorite band, but since this is the DT forum and they have a new album coming soon, naturally I'm gonna express my excitement here.

DT isn't my #1 either, but there is no other band that makes me as excited for a new album as DT. They're just really good in getting people ridiculously excited. I don't participate in any hype stuff like "DT12 will be their best album ever" (because that mostly leads to disappointment), but I'm still confident they craft something great.

Agreed. The only two bands at this point that make me giddy for a new album are Dream Theater & Green Day.

Because you know that it will at least be *good* no matter what. Neither band  has put out a truly terrible album yet.

For me I get most excited about Dream Theater, Megadeth, and Iron Maiden releases. 

I haven't found many new bands at all that I like.  Usually I can't get into the singer.   

I do like Pain of Salvation but their past couple of releases have not been very good.

Glad to hear Fates Warning is putting out a new CD sometime. 

I also like bands like Testament (the non death metal albums), Tesla, OSI, Savatage (mainly with Zak Stevens as the vocalist) but am having trouble finding new bands to listen to

[DreamerTV]

Classic Rock Presents Prog: It's not THAT heavy folks, calm down. It still sounds like Dream Theater. And remember we also said more melodic and more proggy too!

Is that a real quote? It embarrasses me if the fanbase really whined enough to merit a response. Especially as there's absolutely nothing wrong with it being heavier.

It was just one fan who complained that DT is increasing it's heaviness coefficient with each step. Another poster seconded that and then the magazine replied with the quoted message.

Can you please show us where to check this review?

Classic Rock Presents Prog: It's not THAT heavy folks, calm down. It still sounds like Dream Theater. And remember we also said more melodic and more proggy too!

Is that a real quote? It embarrasses me if the fanbase really whined enough to merit a response. Especially as there's absolutely nothing wrong with it being heavier.

Yes, it is. (And why would i post an unreal one, btw?)

Here is the review/comment
https://www.facebook.com/progrockmag/posts/559350764104231?comment_id=5702013&offset=0&total_comments=23

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Classic Rock Presents Prog: It's not THAT heavy folks, calm down. It still sounds like Dream Theater. And remember we also said more melodic and more proggy too!

Is that a real quote? It embarrasses me if the fanbase really whined enough to merit a response. Especially as there's absolutely nothing wrong with it being heavier.

That's what we do, remember? DT fans to the grave, bro.

[wolven74]

Reading the comments on the fb page makes me wonder if some of those people are even fans. I mean, they're taking one persons interpretation of the album and saying this is gonna suck because it's heavier than the last album. Most people here find that to be a good thing. 

[Voices]

Is it alright if someone post this review in the thread? Facebook is blocked here at work, and I don't think I will survive this day if I don't read the review 

[BlobVanDam]

Is it alright if someone post this review in the thread? Facebook is blocked here at work, and I don't think I will survive this day if I don't read the review 

I believe everything that was said is what is posted in this thread. Nothing more! It was just comments on their FB page, not a proper review yet.

[bosk1]

For me I get most excited about Dream Theater, Megadeth, and Iron Maiden releases. 

I haven't found many new bands at all that I like.  Usually I can't get into the singer.   

I do like Pain of Salvation but their past couple of releases have not been very good.

Glad to hear Fates Warning is putting out a new CD sometime. 

I also like bands like Testament (the non death metal albums), Tesla, OSI, Savatage (mainly with Zak Stevens as the vocalist) but am having trouble finding new bands to listen to

Hey, nothing wrong with being selective.  You like what you like, and that's cool.  Good taste as far as most of the band's listed.    If you are looking to perhaps get into some new bands, you might want to start a thread in the General Music Discussion section listing what bands you like and what you like about them, and asking others to make recommendations.

[Voices]

Is it alright if someone post this review in the thread? Facebook is blocked here at work, and I don't think I will survive this day if I don't read the review 

I believe everything that was said is what is posted in this thread. Nothing more! It was just comments on their FB page, not a proper review yet.

Well, this is sad haha, but ok then.

[Hanz Gruber]

For me I get most excited about Dream Theater, Megadeth, and Iron Maiden releases. 

I haven't found many new bands at all that I like.  Usually I can't get into the singer.   

I do like Pain of Salvation but their past couple of releases have not been very good.

Glad to hear Fates Warning is putting out a new CD sometime. 

I also like bands like Testament (the non death metal albums), Tesla, OSI, Savatage (mainly with Zak Stevens as the vocalist) but am having trouble finding new bands to listen to

Hey, nothing wrong with being selective.  You like what you like, and that's cool.  Good taste as far as most of the band's listed.    If you are looking to perhaps get into some new bands, you might want to start a thread in the General Music Discussion section listing what bands you like and what you like about them, and asking others to make recommendations.

Cool,  Thanks.  I might try reading some of the threads for suggestions.

[mike099]

I'm a bit surprised promotional copies have been passed out already.  Nevertheless, melodic and heavy makes me very happy.

Would releasing a promotional copy be a bit risky?  Depending on how many copies and how many folks listened, would a leak be a real possibility?  Just surpising to release the whole cd this early.

By the way:   

[Full Speed]

Usually critics wouldn't leak the album to risk their integrity. If they got caught RoadRunner would most likely cut them off from getting promos.

But yes, the more copies around, the more people with access, etc etc obviously means the more likely it is for the album to leak.

[aprilethereal]

For me I get most excited about Dream Theater, Megadeth, and Iron Maiden releases. 

I haven't found many new bands at all that I like.  Usually I can't get into the singer.   

I do like Pain of Salvation but their past couple of releases have not been very good.

Glad to hear Fates Warning is putting out a new CD sometime. 

I also like bands like Testament (the non death metal albums), Tesla, OSI, Savatage (mainly with Zak Stevens as the vocalist) but am having trouble finding new bands to listen to

There are lots of great and unique new bands, but maybe you'll have to look a bit outside of the typical "prog metal" or whatever range.

As bosk already said, you could visit the General Music Discussion section for some suggestions.

[bosk1]

For me I get most excited about Dream Theater, Megadeth, and Iron Maiden releases. 

I haven't found many new bands at all that I like.  Usually I can't get into the singer.   

I do like Pain of Salvation but their past couple of releases have not been very good.

Glad to hear Fates Warning is putting out a new CD sometime. 

I also like bands like Testament (the non death metal albums), Tesla, OSI, Savatage (mainly with Zak Stevens as the vocalist) but am having trouble finding new bands to listen to

Hey, nothing wrong with being selective.  You like what you like, and that's cool.  Good taste as far as most of the band's listed.    If you are looking to perhaps get into some new bands, you might want to start a thread in the General Music Discussion section listing what bands you like and what you like about them, and asking others to make recommendations.

Cool,  Thanks.  I might try reading some of the threads for suggestions.

No problem.

Your list also got me thinking that we really need a Tesla thread.  https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38102.0

[vtgrad]

I DONT KNOW WHAT I WANT

But no one can take that away.

Stop that, he's only 17.

But I bet he's been Baptized by Fire on the way to No Man's Land while petting his Junkyard Dog.

[philmcson]

I'm a bit surprised promotional copies have been passed out already.  Nevertheless, melodic and heavy makes me very happy.

Would releasing a promotional copy be a bit risky?  Depending on how many copies and how many folks listened, would a leak be a real possibility?  Just surpising to release the whole cd this early.

By the way:   

There's nothing wrong with leaks, I'd download the album ASAP but buy it later 
If you listen to it now it won't sound worse than on release day!

[Labrie1984]

Me too! I always download DT albums prior to release date but I always support them by purchasing the álbum. Here in Spain music is not expensive at all (15 euros aprox= about 13-14 dollars).

[RMGadelha]

Physical copies are usually expensive in Brazil, BUT, I have bought ALL of the DT albums that I have downloaded once a pre-order appeared. Won't be different this time 

[jdprsaga]

2013 has been and will be an excellent year for new releases: Riverside, Niacin, Deep Purple, Spock's Beard, Donati solo album...but nothing can touch the triple dosage of DT (album, dvd, book) I'm about to get this fall. Just thinking about it makes my head spin. 

man, with this you (and spotify) helped me rediscover riverside.. It's a nice album for sure. I guess it's gonna keep me busy for a couple of weeks. Thank You.

[TheLordOfTheStrings]

Seriously guys, it's not that fucking hard to follow the rules.

[RMGadelha]

Seriously guys, it's not that fucking hard to follow the rules.

Are you talking about mentioning leaks or going off-topic? If you mean the former, I apologize.

[TheLordOfTheStrings]

Seriously guys, it's not that fucking hard to follow the rules.

Are you talking about mentioning leaks or going off-topic? If you mean the former, I apologize.

I'm talking about mentioning leaks. The mods have been over this many many times in this thread alone. It just seems rude to blatantly ignore the rules like that. Come one guys.

[lithium112]

I'm so excited that the album is supposedly heavier. I just hope the heaviness is paired with more interesting song structures (e.g. TGP vs BMU/BMD). Not saying BMU/BMD is a bad song, but I really like when DT uses more interesting song structures.

[Sycsa]

2013 has been and will be an excellent year for new releases: Riverside, Niacin, Deep Purple, Spock's Beard, Donati solo album...but nothing can touch the triple dosage of DT (album, dvd, book) I'm about to get this fall. Just thinking about it makes my head spin. 

man, with this you (and spotify) helped me rediscover riverside.. It's a nice album for sure. I guess it's gonna keep me busy for a couple of weeks. Thank You.

Hehe, I'm really glad to hear. The opening track and Escalator Shrine clicked especially well with me. I also saw them live couple of months ago, it was special.

[RMGadelha]

Seriously guys, it's not that fucking hard to follow the rules.

Are you talking about mentioning leaks or going off-topic? If you mean the former, I apologize.

I'm talking about mentioning leaks. The mods have been over this many many times in this thread alone. It just seems rude to blatantly ignore the rules like that. Come one guys.

Ah, I get it. I didn't mean to be rude. I just interpreted the rule as being that I wasn't allowed to discuss once the album was leaked, instead of discussing about the possibility. Should've read the rules more carefully, sorry

[cyberdrummer]

Is it not possible that the magazine were invited to RR's offices for a 'listening party', so to speak? As has been said, I'd be surprised if promo discs had already been distributed.

Regarding what Classic Prog said, it doesn't really tell us much - it could describe any DT album really. I do hope, however, that 'melodic' means something like SFAM, in which there are catchy vocal hooks and even catchy instrumental licks. And it sounds like MM really has gone nuts on this album. 

[hacko]

...snip... Here in Spain music is not expensive at all (15 euros aprox= about 13-14 dollars).

Your math is weird.
1 euro = 1.3 $.
hence, 15 euro would be almost 20 $.

[matte.braso]

anyone speaking Indonesian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ8ltlcGG_Q

(wow good-looking tv presenter talking about DT....it's pretty weird )

[RMGadelha]

Wow, I wonder if that review has any new information. Shiat, where are the Indonesian DT fans over here?

[wolven74]

...snip... Here in Spain music is not expensive at all (15 euros aprox= about 13-14 dollars).

Your math is weird.
1 euro = 1.3 $.
hence, 15 euro would be almost 20 $.

$20 for a CD is pretty high in the states, depending on where you live and where you shop. Usually $13-14 is more the norm where I'm from.

[Hanz Gruber]

anyone speaking Indonesian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ8ltlcGG_Q

(wow good-looking tv presenter talking about DT....it's pretty weird )

Yeah.......he is pretty hot isn't he?


(Just joking.....I know you were talking about the lady)