2019 NFL Thread v. Chiefs are Champs, Missouri rules the sports world

[lonestar]

6-0. Wtf is going on man?

[Stadler]

Could be worse, it could be the Skins-Giants.

I honestly don't mind the Cowboys on SNF. It's always different each week.

My problem is every Sunday here, the 4:00 game features the Cowboys. Every fucking week.

It's been like that since we were kids; I can remember, we used to go to my aunt's house for Sunday dinner every Sunday from like September through the winter, and it seemed like every Sunday it was Pat Summerall, Tom Berkshier, and Tom Landry.   

[Stadler]

I don't know if there's a thread for this, but honest question:

For those that picked Minnesota over Detroit, what was your rationale?   And for those that picked Washington against SF, what was YOUR  rationale?  I'm not being critical, I'm wondering what you saw. 

[TAC]

I wouldn't touch the Vikings/Lions game. The Vikings have been hot and cold, but so have the Lions.

The Redskins have been cold and cold. Nobody in their right mind should've taken the Skins.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

I'm calling it now, if the 49ers can keep playing defense as well as they have, we are going to end up with a 49ers-Patriots Superbowl. Only 2 teams I'm worried about on the 49ers schedule is the Packers and the Seahawks.

[El Barto]

I don't know if there's a thread for this, but honest question:

For those that picked Minnesota over Detroit, what was your rationale?   And for those that picked Washington against SF, what was YOUR  rationale?  I'm not being critical, I'm wondering what you saw.

Minn/Det was a cakewalk. Det can't stop the run and Minn has been running very well. The only way Detroit was going to overcome that was for Stafford to beat them, and despite coming kind of close, Minn's D is sound enough to prevent that most of the time.

SF/WAS was even easier. SF's D is second only to NE. There's no way they're letting losers like Washington score enough points to win. I honestly have no idea why somebody would have picked Washington in that one. I analyzed the Minn/Det game looking for a basis to choose from. I simply saw SF/Was, said "ugly!", and clicked the SF button. 

[KevShmev]

I'm calling it now, if the 49ers can keep playing defense as well as they have, we are going to end up with a 49ers-Patriots Superbowl. Only 2 teams I'm worried about on the 49ers schedule is the Packers and the Seahawks.

At New Orleans (with Brees back, presumably) is not a game to worry about?  Okay.

Actually, I would worry more about your QB, who continues to be pretty average.  Okay, today was ugly, rainy weather, but in 14 starts with the 49ers, Garoppolo has 19 touchdowns and 14 interceptions (7-6 this season thus far).  If the 49ers running game gets shut down a little and/or their defense gets scored on a bit, it remains to be seen where their QB is good enough to put the team on his back and carry them to a win against a good or great team (not most of the patsies they have beat up on thus far).  We have seen little so far to suggest that he is that guy.

[Stadler]

^^ I don't disagree with that at all, and by that logic, if it's too early to anoint the 49'ers, it's too early to rule out the Saints. I think that's a good team, and a hungry team.  They've been - by their reckoning - f****d over now twice in two years against the Rams, and I think that's going to come to a head in their favor here before Brees calls it a day.

[black_biff_stadler]

If the defense stays as hungry and determined as they've been in Brees' absence, we're gonna see a Saints team better than any that's ever taken the field.

[KevShmev]

The Saints have looked like the best team in the NFL this year, all things considered.  Saints/Patriots has to be the most likely scenario Super Bowl matchup right now, which of course means very little in October. 

[TAC]

I agree, but the Pats offense needs to improve.

I still think the Ravens will be there in the AFC. They look pretty good tonight.

[KevShmev]

The AFC is so awful that the 2nd spot is up for grabs now with Mahomes' health in doubt.  Indy is sneaky good.  That roster is something else now.  I just have a hard time trusting the Ravens until I see some improvement from Lamar Jackson when it comes to throwing the ball.

[TAC]

How is the AFC so awful? I'm watching the 3rd or 4th best team in the AFC beat on the Seahawks. Maybe the 3rd or 4th best team in the NFC.

[KevShmev]

Any given Sunday...

Baltimore also got their clocks cleaned at home by the crappy Browns. 

I would have no problem putting the Pats and Saints at 1a and 1b right now, and then 3-5 would all be from the NFC, IMO (Packers, 49ers, Seahawks).  Heck, the Vikings look as good as anyone from the AFC not named the Patriots now that Cousins is playing well again.

[TAC]

Any given Sunday...

Baltimore also got their clocks cleaned at home by the crappy Browns. 

I would have no problem putting the Pats and Saints at 1a and 1b right now, and then 3-5 would all be from the NFC, IMO (Packers, 49ers, Seahawks).  Heck, the Vikings look as good as anyone from the AFC not named the Patriots now that Cousins is playing well again.

Speaking of any given Sunday..

[KevShmev]

Hah.

Saints are up 29-10 at Chicago...and the game has been a bigger blowout that the score indicates.  If not for Lutz uncharacteristically missing two field goals and the Bears returning a kickoff for a TD, the score here could be as ugly as some of those Broncos Super Bowls...

[TAC]

I think this is the Saints' year, honestly.

[KevShmev]

Last year looked like their year as well...a lot can, and will, happen between now and January.

Oh, and  at Melvin Gordon. 

[El Barto]

Oh, and  at Melvin Gordon.

Especially since Vrabel was doing everything he could to give SD the win. That was some pretty terrible coaching.

[black_biff_stadler]

The refs can just rig the game at will anyway so I'm keeping my emotional investment WAY low. What I can't believe is that right after we let the Bears march effortlessly down the field for a TD and moronically gave up an onside recovery for a kick that didn't even go 10 yards, we continue to play pussy ass prevent D which ended up getting Eli Apple seriously injured. Just dance with the fuckin girl you brought to the dance and keep playing the D that got you a 26 point lead ffs. That Apple injury fuckin falls 99% on Payton and 1% on Michael Thomas for trying to recovery an onside kick we would've been given without even having to touch it.

[max_security]

I'm calling it now, if the 49ers can keep playing defense as well as they have, we are going to end up with a 49ers-Patriots Superbowl. Only 2 teams I'm worried about on the 49ers schedule is the Packers and the Seahawks.

Still only 2 teams to worry about ?

[Stadler]

Was that Giants game as bad as the last 2:20 made it look?  Holy crap, that was abysmal. 

[DragonAttack]

Lamar Jackson:  two weeks in a row, has accomplished feats that were never done in the Super Bowl era (could be in NFL history, but I cannot exactly quote that).  The kid is something else.  More later, when I have a chance to expound on his talents (with some criticism included).

[bosk1]

[DragonAttack]

The kid that's not too bad for a running back, that's who.

[Stadler]

Lamar Jackson:  two weeks in a row, has accomplished feats that were never done in the Super Bowl era (could be in NFL history, but I cannot exactly quote that).  The kid is something else.  More later, when I have a chance to expound on his talents (with some criticism included).

What are those?  The only thing I knew he did was 200 yds passing and 150 yards rushing, but Kaepernick did that in 2012, and both Kaepernick and Vick both rushed for more than 150 yards (both did it twice).

This was a big win for Baltimore. So far, they've been winning but against teams they should be beating, and losing to the teams that would show their greatness (KC) and toughness (Cleveland). 

As is often the case, though, the real test will come in two weeks.

[Dream Team]

Lamar Jackson:  two weeks in a row, has accomplished feats that were never done in the Super Bowl era (could be in NFL history, but I cannot exactly quote that).  The kid is something else.  More later, when I have a chance to expound on his talents (with some criticism included).

What are those?  The only thing I knew he did was 200 yds passing and 150 yards rushing, but Kaepernick did that in 2012, and both Kaepernick and Vick both rushed for more than 150 yards (both did it twice).

This was a big win for Baltimore. So far, they've been winning but against teams they should be beating, and losing to the teams that would show their greatness (KC) and toughness (Cleveland). 

As is often the case, though, the real test will come in two weeks.

We know what will happen in 2 weeks, his o-line will repeatedly be called for holding during his escapes from the pass rush.

[KevShmev]

Jackson is a great runner of the football, but still an inconsistent, mediocre passer at best.  What he is now will work in the short term, but he needs to get a lot better at throwing the ball if he wants to be franchise QB for the long term.

[Stadler]

Lamar Jackson:  two weeks in a row, has accomplished feats that were never done in the Super Bowl era (could be in NFL history, but I cannot exactly quote that).  The kid is something else.  More later, when I have a chance to expound on his talents (with some criticism included).

What are those?  The only thing I knew he did was 200 yds passing and 150 yards rushing, but Kaepernick did that in 2012, and both Kaepernick and Vick both rushed for more than 150 yards (both did it twice).

This was a big win for Baltimore. So far, they've been winning but against teams they should be beating, and losing to the teams that would show their greatness (KC) and toughness (Cleveland). 

As is often the case, though, the real test will come in two weeks.

We know what will happen in 2 weeks, his o-line will repeatedly be called for holding during his escapes from the pass rush.

It's pretty early to start making excuses, innit?   He's either the legend he's being annointed to be, or he's the next Michael Vick and Colin Kaepernick (which is to say, an exceedingly talented athlete who don't translate into a winning, reliable quarterback).   

[King Postwhore]

They are playing the Patriots so Dream Team is saying that the Pats get all the phantom calls. 

[Stadler]

They are playing the Patriots so Dream Team is saying that the Pats get all the phantom calls.

No I get it, but it's sort of a tired analysis.  I mean, if you KNOW it's coming, and you fall victim to it, whose fault is that?

[pg1067]

They are playing the Patriots so Dream Team is saying that the Pats get all the phantom calls.

No I get it, but it's sort of a tired analysis.  I mean, if you KNOW it's coming, and you fall victim to it, whose fault is that?

If they're truly "phantom calls," then it is, by definition, the fault of the officials because the team being victimized by the "phantom calls" can do nothing to stop them.

[Stadler]

They are playing the Patriots so Dream Team is saying that the Pats get all the phantom calls.

No I get it, but it's sort of a tired analysis.  I mean, if you KNOW it's coming, and you fall victim to it, whose fault is that?

If they're truly "phantom calls," then it is, by definition, the fault of the officials because the team being victimized by the "phantom calls" can do nothing to stop them.

Eh, I disagree.  I suppose there's a point at which they are SO egregious that you're right, but I don't agree that the officiating is that bad, against the Pats or generally. The one call that is indefensible is the Saints - Rams call, but the vast majority aren't that way.   

In any event, according to this source, the Pats have the LEAST amount of penalties called against their opponents this year (and were only middle of the pack last year) so that shoots that idea. 

[King Postwhore]

Only the Pat's get away with holding,  lining offside,  deflating footballs,  filming practices.

Yet, every other year a rule is made from the Patriots winning a game that other coaches look silly.

[TheCountOfNYC]

The Pats aren’t favored by the refs (anymore). BB’s players are simply disciplined enough to not put themselves in a position for a bad call.