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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: carl320 on April 06, 2012, 08:03:28 PM
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After searching I was surprised to not find a similar thread.
Lately I've been listening to newer Offspring... At first I didn't really care for Conspiracy of One, but lately it's all I've been listening to. And atm I'm listening to Splinter.
Aren't they working on a new album?
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I guess I would have started this thread some years ago had I not been "betrayed" by them with Rise And Fall, Rage And Grace. Although, they started slipping with Conspiracy of One. The Offspring was my unhealthy obsession in middle school (overtaken by Disturbed in High School) and looking back, me being that into them was a bit silly, but I still love their work up Americana. Co1 and Splinter haven't aged that great, but have a few great songs on each.
There was a time when I thought The Offspring could do no wrong, defending them at every turn, but that all changed with Co1. I had to keep convincing myself that there wasn't a bad song on the album even though deep down, I really didn't like Want You Bad. Yes, it was that song, not Original Prankster, although I think that song is shit now. Like I said, unhealthy.
Ignition is my favorite album by them with Ixnay second. I Still remember buying Ignition at Circuit City on my (I believe) 14th birthday*. Not a bad song on it to this day. Ixnay has a couple I don't care for now, but that's only 2 out of 14 songs (12 if you don't count Disclaimer and Intermission, which really you shouldn't...).
I'm not expecting much from a new album which I think they are working on. They're where they want to be, and unfortunately it's not where I want to be with them. I still own Co1 and Splinter as they hold a special place in my heart even if they aren't that special :D
*Appreciates*
* Looking back, I'm not really sure when the hell I got Ignition. Rob Zombie's Hellbilly Deluxe was the first CD I ever bought and that was on my 13th birthday. At that same CD store I tried getting Ignition (not sure if it was on the same day) but the CD was scratched. Maybe my step dad took me to Circuit City on a different day so I could get the CD with birthday money. GAAHH! Oh well. This has been: Random thoughts with Zook.
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Although, they started slipping with Conspiracy of One.
Hell no, they were consistently excellent up to and including Splinter. I haven't actually heard the whole of Rise and Fall, just a couple of songs, but they didn't sound great.
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Damn this thread brings back memories. I absolutely LOVE The Offspring.
They were one of the first bands I ever got really into, but even today I still really like them.
Smash and Ignition are killer and I also like Ixnay on the Hombre (especially Gone Away). They are the perfect band to listen to when Skateboarding or Snowboarding.
It was around Americana where I started to tune out though.
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Amazing band. I think they have been pretty good all the way through their career, Splinter I really do enjoy, although nothing can beat Smash, Ixnay and Americana.
The last one was okay, but nothing spectacular. Simply my favourite band in my early years in high school.
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I thought we did have a thread but I guess not.
OH WELL. Yeah, The Offspring are awesome. The first CD I ever got was Americana (got it not long after it came out) and I still listen to it.
Although, they started slipping with Conspiracy of One.
Hell no, they were consistently excellent up to and including Splinter.
Also, I agree with this.
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I thought we did have a thread but I guess not.
OH WELL. Yeah, The Offspring are awesome. The first CD I ever got was Americana (got it not long after it came out) and I still listen to it.
Although, they started slipping with Conspiracy of One.
Hell no, they were consistently excellent up to and including Splinter.
Also, I agree with this.
I would have agreed too way back when. I played the hell out of Co1, don't get me wrong. I was an Offspring fan boy until July 18 2001 (FUN FACT: After seeing Jurassic Park 3 on its release day, we went to K-Mart and I bought The Sickness)
I think it's the fact that the songs started getting goofier and goofier. I think they just did the goofy or non-serious stuff better back in the day. Ever since Pretty Fly, they had to one up it, but Original Prankster was worse, and Hit That was just awful. Americana also had Why Don't You get A Job which I wouldn't skip if listening to the album, but is definitely not a favorite of mine. The only songs I'd want to listen to from Co1 now are Come Out Swinging, Million Miles Away, Denial Revisited, and Vultures.
I remember buying Splinter on my lunch break and having to drive further away to K-mart since they have unedited CDs, and although I downloaded a crappy leaked version beforehand and was underwhelmed, I was still somehow more underwhelmed by the actual CD. The album was really short, which wasn't anything new for The Offspring, but with 2 non-songs (yes When You're In Prison is a non-song, ugh what a waste of CD space) the album's run time is like 26 minutes. The Noose, Race Against Myself, and Lightning Rod are really the only songs worth listening to still. I did like Worst Hangover Ever even for a Ska-ish song. It has a nice bass line. Spare Me The Details was also one I didn't mind, but not something I care to listen to anymore. The others songs might as well be So Alone and All Along. And Fuck Da Hui.
Kudos to you guys if you love those albums, but they aged terribly for me, but then Splinter wasn't that good at its start. The Offspring always had 2-3 minute songs, but back in the day, the songs were so much more memorable for their length. When (Can't Get My) Head Around You was getting played on the radio, one time when it finished the DJ said "wait, that was it?". The song was over before it started and left nothing.
So yeah, I'm an angry Offspring fan. Disturbed did the same thing with less material under their belt.
Grrr I'm steaming mad.
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Here comes my massive tirade:
The Offspring were "the" band for me back in middle school. It was catchy, but still heavy enough to satisfy the little metalhead I was quietly nursing before I went to high school and went full-on metal. I told a kid at school who knew how to download music that I really wanted the album "Smash" because my Dad had played some of it for me and Bad Habit was the funniest god damn thing I'd ever heard in my life.
To my surprise, he came to me the next day with a data disc of their ENTIRE DISCOGRAPHY (though this was still up to Splinter). I was extremely impressed that he was able to get it all, and that opened up a lot of doors for my future downloading habits. Most importantly, the music kicked some major fucking ass.
I kind of look at The Offspring in phases. Their first two were really great for what they were, but to me The Offspring are a better pop-punk band than they are a punk band. Beheaded, I'll Be Waiting, Jennifer Lost the War, Burn it Up, and LAPD are all fantastic songs though. Smash, Ixnay, and Americana are the golden era for me (and pretty much everyone else, it looks like). CO1 and Splinter are both pretty good, but I much prefer CO1. When they're all said and done, Splinter will be viewed as the one that started the downward spiral. There's just way too much stupid shit on that album, and the real songs don't match up to anything they did in the past.
Now for the curveball, I honestly love the fuck out of RAFRAG. It's samey, poppy, and the soft songs are pretty jarring at first, but it's superior to Splinter in every way. The dance track (You're Gonna Go Far, Kid vs. Hit That) is way better, and there's no stupid intro tracks or extraneous outro tracks that serve absolutely no purpose to the album (Just a disclaimer, the intro/outro stuff from Smash-Americana was fucking brilliant, but Splinter's were an embarrassment).
I'm very curious to see where they go with their new one. I'd like them to maybe back off on the softer songs next time (Fix You is pretty bad, I know) and get back that vibe they had on Americana.
Oh yeah, and Feelings is a great song.
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I like Feelings too. My older brother hates it, and my mom hates the original.
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"Just a Disclaimer"? I think you'll find that it's called "Disclaimer" :P
I didn't see anything wrong with Splinter's intro track. Nothing too great but nothing bad about it either.
Hit That was indeed terrible. Didn't like Feelings either.
Can't Repeat was their last good song for me.
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"Just a Disclaimer"? I think you'll find that it's called "Disclaimer" :P
Can't Repeat was their last good song for me.
I was wondering what the hell he meant by that. Thought he accidentally something...
Also, I forgot about Can't Repeat. Listening now, and you're right, it's the last good song they made.
Fo shame.
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So wait. You don't find a single good song on RAFRAG? I thought Hammerhead was at least reasonably well-liked.
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Nope. Hammerhead was the first one I heard and I did not enjoy it.
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The first thing I noticed when I heard Hammerhead was that the guitar was almost the same as in Take It Like A Man, only palm muted.
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The first thing I noticed when I heard Hammerhead was that the guitar was almost the same as in Take It Like A Man, only palm muted.
There's a definite similarity. Never noticed that before. Still, there's enough little changes to where it wouldn't bother me. Besides, it's hard to be a punk band and not repeat yourself once in a while.
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The first thing I noticed when I heard Hammerhead was that the guitar was almost the same as in Take It Like A Man, only palm muted.
There's a definite similarity. Never noticed that before. Still, there's enough little changes to where it wouldn't bother me. Besides, it's hard to be a punk band and not repeat yourself once in a while.
True, but you can say that about any genre really. It bothered me though, but mostly because the song wasn't that good.
Also according to Wikipedia:
On March 24, 2012, frontman Dexter Holland announced on the band's Twitter page that the album was finished
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I really like Hit That. :lol
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You word, jerk.
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I word.
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I regret nothing.
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New 30 second snippet, album art, and tracklist.
I like the snippet. Sounds like they're progressing more in the style of RAFRAG, which I'm sure people here won't be thrilled with, but whatevs.
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Link?
Offspring reminds me of my middle school days as well.
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Oh bollocks, they remade Dirty Magic.
EDIT: As for Days Go By.... Sounds like generic Foo Fighters...
:'(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPzumOXKsaU&feature=player_embedded
Sounds way better than Foo Fighters though.
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https://soundcloud.com/theoffspringsc/days-go-by
New song. Chorus is pretty catchy.
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The new song hurt me. Americana is one of my top five favorite albums ever. What happened to this band?
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This song put me in a :) mood
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Smash is probably in my top 10 of all time. Just an all around solid band.
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Hmmm.....Times Like These anyone?
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Nice, fun song. I would hope that there's something that grabs me more on the album though. I can see the Foos comparisons, definitely, although that's no bad thing as I love the Foos!
I also finally got round to listen to RAFRAG, and it's not bad at all. A couple of really good songs and the rest are decent enough. It's definitely their weakest album since their first two though, as there's not much that really jumps out as being particularly exciting.
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This song is meh, and it sounding like Foo Fighters just makes it worse.
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Splinter kind of 'Phantom Menaced' me, and RAFRAG (while having an AWESOME acronym) seemed like a lot of rehashing and pretty weak attempts at trying new things.
Listening to the new song now. Not sure what to think yet. Certainly feels more mature, which is something they should've been aiming for the last two albums. Intrigued by the new album to say the least.
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God damn. The Offspring finally released a song that I can't defend at all. Holy fuck this is bad.
https://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/music/news/blog/listen-the-offsprings-new-song-days-go-by/20120430-g71h.html#ooid=ZpbDhsNDr89USI9zXQ8QYOLaVCVbrYU-
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oh
oh god
no
that is truly abominable
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That re-recording of Dirty Magic had better be damn good or I might have to jump ship. Bob Rock may have officially murdered yet another once great band.
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Oh jeezus...
Offspring... what's happened to you? :'(
That re-recording of Dirty Magic had better be damn good or I might have to jump ship. Bob Rock may have officially murdered yet another once great band.
I think The Offspring have been doing this rather well on their own.
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Nothing will ever beat the original Dirty Magic. Beheaded '99 was inferior and DM will probably be worse.
Boo frickety hoo.
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Nothing will ever beat the original Dirty Magic. Beheaded '99 was inferior and DM will probably be worse.
Boo frickety hoo.
Beheaded '99? What is this witchcraft?
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Nothing will ever beat the original Dirty Magic. Beheaded '99 was inferior and DM will probably be worse.
Boo frickety hoo.
Beheaded '99? What is this witchcraft?
Yep, it was on the Idol Hands soundtrack, and The Offspring performed it in the movie shortly before Dexter's scalp was ripped off.
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The local rock radio station just played another new track from Offspring, something called Crusin' California. It's absolute crap and possibly the worst Offspring song I've ever heard. It's most likely a satire type song, I didn't really listen closely and I probably missed that, but I don't think I'll be wasting my time with this.
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Yeah they've done a silly song like that on every album since Americana I think (Why Don't You Get A Job, When You're In Prison, etc). Have to say though, this new one is possibly the blandest of the lot.
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Yeah they've done a silly song like that on every album since Americana I think (Why Don't You Get A Job, When You're In Prison, etc). Have to say though, this new one is possibly the blandest of the lot.
Yeah, I'm totally familiar with all those songs, but this is just something else.
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WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?!
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Yeah they've done a silly song like that on every album since Americana I think (Why Don't You Get A Job, When You're In Prison, etc). Have to say though, this new one is possibly the blandest of the lot.
"When you're in Prison" was a great joke, but "Days go by" sounds very serious to me :'(
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Days Go By is a pretty great song. Crusing California is one of the worst songs I've ever heard, and it came from one of my favorite bands. :-\
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My bad, I didn't notice that the discussion shifted to a different song :blush
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What's wrong with Days Go By?
Yeah When You're In Prison is a joke song, but all their silly songs are, to varying degrees. I don't find this one much worse than Why Don't You Get A Job.
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I'm not a big fan of WDYGAJ, but it's still a million times better than Cruisin' California. It's like they're trying too hard to make that goofy song for the album, and they can't make them tolerable anymore... Or funny for that matter.
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I think it's slightly less lame, but I really don't think there's much in. I reckon the reason people have a far more positive feeling towards that song is that it's been around for years and people have gotten used to it. Plus, for many of us we got into that album when we were younger and so it has a certain nostalgia. But really, it's basically the same sort of thing.
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Everyone loved that song when it came out. I wasn't one of them, but that and Pretty Fly were huge. This new song has nothing going for it.
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I like Pretty Fly, but I can't imagine why anyone would have liked WDYGAJ much. Maybe because it was a new idea, whereas now they've been doing it for a few albums, people are bored by it.
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I like Pretty Fly, but I can't imagine why anyone would have liked WDYGAJ much. Maybe because it was a new idea, whereas now they've been doing it for a few albums, people are bored by it.
I was in 8th grade when it came out, so it was popular with the 12-13 year olds. As was Pretty Fly. But yeah, I know they wanna be goofy, and they know it'll get 'em an instant hit, but they need to give it a rest.
I've come to the point where they need to give their career a rest. I don't think there's any coming back now...
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The local rock radio station still plays WDYGAJ quite often on the radio. I never liked it, but it was popular, and it's lightyears better than this new garbage Kesha like song.
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About to wrap my first listen of the new album. On this one, The Offspring rip themselves off immensely in addition to other bands. I skipped that horrible California song, and another one where Dexter sings in a mexican accent. The remake of Dirty Magic, as predicted was lame, and the little things they added didn't improve on it, but instead lower the quality. I didn't like their remake of Beheaded either, but it was better that this. There are a couple songs on here that are alright, but those same songs contain rip offs and similarities from their past. I will say that with all its faults, it's still so much better than Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace, but if they are going to continue ripping off the past, I think it's time to throw in the towel.
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Well, after I permanently delete Cruising California and OC Guns, this album will be pretty great. I'm not so sure about the Dirty Magic re-make (the chorus sounds an awful lot like Have You Ever now), but it's not cringeworthy.
It's really a damn shame that they tarnished this album with two of the worst songs I've ever heard, because the rest of it is awesome.
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Well, after I permanently delete Cruising California and OC Guns, this album will be pretty great. I'm not so sure about the Dirty Magic re-make (the chorus sounds an awful lot like Have You Ever now), but it's not cringeworthy.
It's really a damn shame that they tarnished this album with two of the worst songs I've ever heard, because the rest of it is awesome.
If I had never heard any of their earlier albums, this album (besides those two abominations) would be pretty good to me too.
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I'm really not sure what you were expecting. All of their albums sound pretty similar. Why would they switch it up now?
Right, I changed my mind. I Wanna Secret Family is pretty lame too.
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I'm really not sure what you were expecting. All of their albums sound pretty similar. Why would they switch it up now?
Right, I changed my mind. I Wanna Secret Family is pretty lame too.
Besides the riff in Genocide and Change The World (which I'm certain was intentional) it wasn't until RAFRAG that they really started copying themselves, and this new album is really bad with it.
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:lol They've copied themselves with pretty much every album. Never bothered me at all.
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:lol They've copied themselves with pretty much every album. Never bothered me at all.
How so? By keeping the same style? They aren't prog. I'm talking about actually copying melodies and riffs from their older songs.
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I have to be honest, with the exception of OC Guns and I Want A Secret Family With You, the new album is pretty good. I really hated Splinter and RAFRAG (although I loved the acronym for RAFRAG :lol ) but this is vast improvement. Take out OC Guns and Secret Family and you have a great album. Even California Cruisin' is a laugh, which I wasn't expecting. The first three tracks are great, and the title track has a bit more maturity than they've had before and it's something I want to hear from them way more than joke tracks or keeping to their roots by ripping off Ignition tracks. It's a step in the right direction and given me belief that they're aren't beyond saving.
Also they no longer sound bored in the studio anymore. I think that's what bugged me most about RAFRAG, more than the crappy songs. I don't mind crappy songs if you have some conviction in them, because at least then it has some value to someone.
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I'd say Dividing By Zero and Slim Pickens are probably the best songs they've done in a very long time. After forgetting about Cruisin' and OC Guns, this album holds up quite well. I left Secret Family in so it makes the good songs even better.
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:lol True, plus another 30 minute album isn't ideal...
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I don't know. Their first album was only 31 minutes, and it holds up pretty well among the classics (I know. I'm weird).
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The first album is awesome, and kinda metalish. Nothing weird about liking it.
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I do love me some first album. And I never really noticed it's run time. 31 mins including Kill The President (which isn't on my CD version for some reason). If you go under 30 minutes you're going into EP territory, which seems weird with 10-12 tracks :P Maybe I never noticed it because The Offspring are one of my first loves and before I got into anything progressive. There was a time where I thought Pay The Man was the longest song in the world :lol
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Pay the Man is brilliant. To this date, it's their crowning achievement.
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Pay the Man is brilliant. To this date, it's their crowning achievement.
UNTIL THEY MAKE THEIR 20 MINUTE EPIC!!!! AMIRITE?!?!?!?
But yes, you're right.
From wikipedia:
Track 11 was removed from album printings after June 2001. On the official Offspring website, "Kill the President" is not mentioned in the track list.
I'm guessing for some politically correct bullshit reason.
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Hmmm.....Times Like These anyone?
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Wow, The Offspring topic! I didn't know about this one. I'm a fan of The Offspring since 97 more or less.
Do not judge this fantastic album by CC, listen to the whole album, because it is awesome. Especially the last two songs, dividing by Zero and Slim Pickens.
I like a lot this new album and the renewed Dirty Magic sounds better than before.
I don't understand why some people blame a lot against CC or OCG...cmon those are just fun songs and I really can't see the difference with songs like WDYGAJ and CC...those are the same kind of songs. The Offspring had always these kind of fun-pop songs.
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Wow, The Offspring topic! I didn't know about this one. I'm a fan of The Offspring since 97 more or less.
Do not judge this fantastic album by CC, listen to the whole album, because it is awesome. Especially the last two songs, dividing by Zero and Slim Pickens.
I like a lot this new album and the renewed Dirty Magic sounds better than before.
I don't understand why some people blame a lot against CC or OCG...cmon those are just fun songs and I really can't see the difference with songs like WDYGAJ and CC...those are the same kind of songs. The Offspring had always these kind of fun-pop songs.
CC is fun, and I have a bit of guilty love for that song :lol OC Guns however just annoys me, so I'm probably not going to listen to it ever again :P
I think it's the fact that there's some genuine maturity in a few of the songs, which is really refreshing to hear from them, and then contrasted with jokey irrelevant filler tracks like OCG that people don't like. I wouldn't mind OCG if it was a longer album and there was a more worthwhile song included as extra.
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My first impressions of the middle part of the album after a decent start:
Cruising California (bumpin' in my Trunk):
A bit meh, probably meant as a joke but it gets old too soon.
All I have left is you:
Very unspectacular, are these guys getting too old?
OC Guns:
DAFUQ. This album is degrading quickly. This sounds like another joke that isn't really funny.
Dirty Magic:
You gotta be kidding me. Yes, the song is good. Yes, it probably is the best song on the album. ...but it's still an old song. Is this song meant to be apology, because they realize that the previous songs don't cut it?
That said, Dividing by Zero is really nice, and so is the opener The Future is now (even though the dynamic compression sounds atrocious on this track).
I have mixed feelings so far and I currently rank it below Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace. Let's see how I feel after a few more spins.
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I didn't realize there was an offspring thread...
Smash was the first CD and also the first tape of any band that 8 purchased when I was in 4th grade. I haven't really kept up with their music, but i still love Smash and Ixnay on the Hombre .
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Ixnay on the Hombre turned 20 back in February!
Gave this album a listen after a VERY long break, and it's like I never stopped listening to it. Granted I was so obsessed with the band back in the day that all their albums are basically engraved in my brain.
I really hope The Offspring can release one more album that I actually like before they call it quits. As I've said in the past, Splinter was the last album they did that had anything decent on it. I still haven't seen them live, but if they come this way, and they're playing Ixnay in its entirety, I have to find a way to make it to the show.
I have some Offspring on my phone, but Imma put their full albums back on. It's such a great feeling rediscovering old favorites.
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:lol They've copied themselves with pretty much every album. Never bothered me at all.
How so? By keeping the same style? They aren't prog. I'm talking about actually copying melodies and riffs from their older songs.
I know you said this about five years ago Zook, but since you were the one that brought this thread back, I figured I'd put in my two cents. Been a huge Offspring fan since Smash came out, and I really do LOVE every album, with maybe the exception of Co1. But, yeah, they've copied riffs and melodies since the beginning. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, in fact, I actually have always loved it when they do it.
Have You Ever - the melody of the chorus is the same as the melody of Dirty Magic's chorus
Change the World - guitar riff is a slowed down version of Genocide's main riff; this slowed down version plays as an outro to the Smash album
Pay the Man - the drum beat is the same drum beat as the acoustic Come Out and Play at the end of Smash
I think there are a few more, but I'd have to listen down to the albums. In any event, I can't believe the dislike for RAFRAG. I honestly think, with the exception of a few tracks, they've had three of their best right in a row. All better than Americana and Co1. Hmmm, that reminds me I could do a ranking!!
Ixnay
Days Go By
RAFRAG
Ignition
Splinter
Smash
Americana
S/T
Co1
That's probably right. Love Ixnay, Smash, and Ignition, but I really do think they've been very consistent their entire career, and hopefully they give us some more good ones
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After all these years, smash is still on rotation. It was my 2nd CD ever and I still love it to this day.
Ixnay is cool too. Gone away is a stand out fav
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:lol They've copied themselves with pretty much every album. Never bothered me at all.
How so? By keeping the same style? They aren't prog. I'm talking about actually copying melodies and riffs from their older songs.
I know you said this about five years ago Zook, but since you were the one that brought this thread back, I figured I'd put in my two cents. Been a huge Offspring fan since Smash came out, and I really do LOVE every album, with maybe the exception of Co1. But, yeah, they've copied riffs and melodies since the beginning. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, in fact, I actually have always loved it when they do it.
Have You Ever - the melody of the chorus is the same as the melody of Dirty Magic's chorus
Change the World - guitar riff is a slowed down version of Genocide's main riff; this slowed down version plays as an outro to the Smash album
Pay the Man - the drum beat is the same drum beat as the acoustic Come Out and Play at the end of Smash
1. I guess I never noticed that. Weird.
2. Mentioned this already. The outro I assumed was a precursor. Funny enough, the riff reuse from Genocide never bothered me. OK, maybe a little.
3. The COAP easter egg I figured was an idea that they just saved for the future. It's not like that version of COAP is a real song.
The rehashes and rip offs are more prominent to my ears on the newer stuff.
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After all these years, smash is still on rotation. It was my 2nd CD ever and I still love it to this day.
Ixnay is cool too. Gone away is a stand out fav
yea definitely
They are touring the US with Sublime with Rome this summer so I will be seeing them again. I still haven't really listened to any of their newer stuff though.
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Ixnay on the Hombre turned 20 back in February!
Wow. I still remember discovering this as a kid and just being amazing by the whole thing, and trying to not let my Mum hear all the swearing haha. Such a brilliant album and still my fav Offspring album.
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Tried listening to RAFRAG. It just doesn't sound like The Offspring. Half Truism sounds like Nickelback, and Trust in You rips off Smash (the song). I got to the 3rd song and gave up. Now I'm listening to Americana, and Have You Ever is a million times better than those 3 songs combined. Hell, Pretty Fly is even better. I wonder how much Ron Welty contributed to the song writing. Maybe that's the problem.
I remember the first time I heard Pretty Fly. I was sick and stayed home from school. Pretty Fly came on the radio, but I was excited that Rock of Ages was on, and then I was just confused.
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Almost done with Conspiracy of One, and I gotta say, there's really nothing wrong with this album. Back then during my obsessed days where The Offspring could do no wrong, I had to convince myself that Want You Bad was a good song, and listening to it again after all these years I can't believe I put myself through that. The song is poppy as hell, but harmless. I actually like it. Even All Along, the "So Alone" of the album really isn't that bad, and definitely better than So Alone. Original Prankster is stupid, but they've done worse. *cough*Hit That*cough*
Conspiracy of One actually got better with age. I really think Ron Welty's departure greatly affected their writing.
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In school you were either a Green Day or Offspring fan. I obviously chose Green Day but I did like Smash and Ixnay... But then after that they lost me entirely.
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In school you were either a Green Day or Offspring fan. I obviously chose Green Day but I did like Smash and Ixnay... But then after that they lost me entirely.
Can't say I ever saw that - my friends and I liked both.
Conspiracy of One was fantastic, and I thought Splinter was another excellent album. It was after that where I lost interest.
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In school you were either a Green Day or Offspring fan. I obviously chose Green Day but I did like Smash and Ixnay... But then after that they lost me entirely.
I was a massive fan of both of those bands, as was most in my school.
In school you were either a Green Day or Offspring fan. I obviously chose Green Day but I did like Smash and Ixnay... But then after that they lost me entirely.
Can't say I ever saw that - my friends and I liked both.
Conspiracy of One was fantastic, and I thought Splinter was another excellent album. It was after that where I lost interest.
Same, Splinter is actually really excellent and I lost interest after that too, or more like that's when I discovered metal!
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In school you were either a Green Day or Offspring fan. I obviously chose Green Day but I did like Smash and Ixnay... But then after that they lost me entirely.
Can't say I ever saw that - my friends and I liked both.
Conspiracy of One was fantastic, and I thought Splinter was another excellent album. It was after that where I lost interest.
They just seemed to get more and more poppy and after Pretty Fly I was like NOPE. And the album by Bob Rock I thought was total tripe.
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In school you were either a Green Day or Offspring fan. I obviously chose Green Day but I did like Smash and Ixnay... But then after that they lost me entirely.
It was 4th grade when I started to take interest in The Offspring, but I wouldn't become a fanboy until middle school. There was a girl in my 4th grade class who was what I would later become with The Offspring, but with Green Day. So much so that on our field trip to the grand opening of the Florida Aquarium, when she bought a plastic lizard from the gift shop, she named it Green Day. I couldn't stand them. They're still barely tolerable to me, and the stuff on American Idiot is acid to my ears. They won the popularity contest in the end though. Not to say The Offspring didn't get some major attention with Pretty Fly, Original Prankster, and Hit That in the later years.
Splinter has 5 songs I enjoy. One of them happens to be Spare Me the Details, which is so absurd it's enjoyable. I like the juxtaposition is features. I used to like The Worst Hangover Ever mainly for the bass line, but now it's pretty awful all around. The others I like are The Noose, Long Way Home, Race Against Myself, and Lightning Rod.
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In school you were either a Green Day or Offspring fan. I obviously chose Green Day but I did like Smash and Ixnay... But then after that they lost me entirely.
Can't say I ever saw that - my friends and I liked both.
Conspiracy of One was fantastic, and I thought Splinter was another excellent album. It was after that where I lost interest.
They just seemed to get more and more poppy and after Pretty Fly I was like NOPE. And the album by Bob Rock I thought was total tripe.
Because poppy is bad, obviously.
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In school you were either a Green Day or Offspring fan. I obviously chose Green Day but I did like Smash and Ixnay... But then after that they lost me entirely.
It was 4th grade when I started to take interest in The Offspring, but I wouldn't become a fanboy until middle school. There was a girl in my 4th grade class who was what I would later become with The Offspring, but with Green Day. So much so that on our field trip to the grand opening of the Florida Aquarium, when she bought a plastic lizard from the gift shop, she named it Green Day. I couldn't stand them. They're still barely tolerable to me, and the stuff on American Idiot is acid to my ears. They won the popularity contest in the end though. Not to say The Offspring didn't get some major attention with Pretty Fly, Original Prankster, and Hit That in the later years.
Yea 4th grade was the year for me hearing Dookie and Smash for the first time due to radio airplay for both band's. I don't think it was ever one or the other for me or my school. Green day was definitely more popular but offspring had their hits at that time too. My parents knew Dookie had curses on it so they did t let me buy it but i manages to get Smash as the first CD I ever owned. I had only listened to cassettes up till that point. I remember blasting Smash on my walkman during a field trip to the liberty science center and a lot of the girls were interested because it had a lot of curse words in Bad Habit and also I had a walkman. I eventually got Dookie a little later without my parents knowing. Those were the days...
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In school you were either a Green Day or Offspring fan. I obviously chose Green Day but I did like Smash and Ixnay... But then after that they lost me entirely.
Can't say I ever saw that - my friends and I liked both.
Conspiracy of One was fantastic, and I thought Splinter was another excellent album. It was after that where I lost interest.
They just seemed to get more and more poppy and after Pretty Fly I was like NOPE. And the album by Bob Rock I thought was total tripe.
Because poppy is bad, obviously.
Well they coupled it with shit songs.
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I've grown to like poppier stuff as I get older. Everything pop was evil to me when I was a kid... Except that time in 7th grade when I liked "Backstreet's Back". Or when I drowned out the music so I could oogle over Jennifer Lopez in a swimsuit.
Nothing on Co1 is complete shit like on Splinter. If anything on that album didn't age well though, it's definitely One Fine Day.
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The Offspring was the first band I really got "into". & right now I can still kind of go back to those times (actually it was like 3 or 4 years ago but whatever), but they've not aged the best in my opinion.
Here's my opinion of each of the albums:
(3rd) Self-Titled - Great album, though a little too one-dimensional at times
(1st) Ignition - Awesome
(2nd) Smash - Tied with ignition
(6th) Ixnay - Some pretty cool ideas here & there but doesn't add up to a whole lot
(Last) Americana - 50% good (Have You Ever, Staring At The Sun, Kids Aren't Alright, title track, Pay The Man), 50% terrible (everything else)
(8th) Conspiracy - There are no songs I dislike, but there's nothing I could really come back to (except the title track, which kicks ass)
(7th) Splinter - Could've been a great experience, but it's bogged down by two terrible tracks (Hit That & Hangover) & its short length
(5th) Rise & Fall - Loved this when I first heard it, but afterwards I realised how overdone the style was. I can still listen to it on occasion though
(4th) Days Go By - Actually pretty good. There's a few bad songs but I can ignore them with songs like the rest of the album, which I like quite a bit
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End of the Line and No Brakes are terrible? I can understand not liking the goofy songs, but those two are solid. Personally I don't think Americana has a bad song on it. Even the silly songs are great. And I absolutely love Pretty Fly (Reprise).
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Ameicana is brilliant. It's not far off Smash and Ixnay IMO. That trio run of albums is just brilliant.
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The Offspring were great the other night. It's amazing how they have such a strong collection of good songs that it felt like it was hit after hit with them. Anyway, just wanted to share my video of them performing All I Want. This song is kind of special for me. I LOVED it when it was released back when I was in 7th grade. In my English class, the teacher asked everyone to write the lyrics to their favorite song and then write a summary about your thoughts on the lyrics and music. I had picked this song. I wrote out the lyrics and left them on my desk in my bedroom. My parents came in and read them, had no idea it was from a song. My mom pulled me aside and was very concerned about my thoughts I had written out. Wondering why I was such a rebel. I still feel like those music/lyrics make some sense to how I feel sometimes about life.
The Offspring - All I Want Live (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evki8bQSHC8)
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That's funny about your parents.
I had a similar story, which when I was like 5 or maybe 6 I was listening to Ignition on a cassette walkmen and it was that part in Session where you hear "AH FUCK, fuck, fuck fuck fuck" and I was like "Mom listen to this" and her shock was classic. But since she was like 23 and a child herself, with really no interest in being a mother or parent, She just turned back to the magazine she was reading or whatever. And I continued listening to and loving offspring.
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Man so much nostalgica hearing them play all the old tunes and it''s awesome how good they sound.
The Offspring - Hellfest 2022 (https://youtu.be/FzTmRL14vkc)
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Man so much nostalgica hearing them play all the old tunes and it''s awesome how good they sound.
The Offspring - Hellfest 2022 (https://youtu.be/FzTmRL14vkc)
They sound solid here (watched most of it yesterday), but I thought they were pretty much shit when I saw them last summer that I didn't even bother to go see them a month or so ago locally.
The new album just isn't getting enough live representation for me to want to see mostly the same setlist again. (which is mostly the same songs I've seen them played the other times I've seen them).
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Man so much nostalgica hearing them play all the old tunes and it''s awesome how good they sound.
The Offspring - Hellfest 2022 (https://youtu.be/FzTmRL14vkc)
They sound solid here (watched most of it yesterday), but I thought they were pretty much shit when I saw them last summer that I didn't even bother to go see them a month or so ago locally.
The new album just isn't getting enough live representation for me to want to see mostly the same setlist again. (which is mostly the same songs I've seen them played the other times I've seen them).
I haven't actually followed them for ages and stumbled on that concert while browsing other acts from Hellfest so it was pure nostalgica for me. That's too bad they don't switch setlist and include more newer songs. Seems like something alot of bands struggle with.
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Actually the first "heavy" band I was into ever, due to a classmate at elementary school being a fan of theirs. Now that I think of it Americana is probably one of my first memories of wanting an album. Linkin Park followed later.
Seems like a great festival band, they sound good there. And in that case I think it is a good idea to just play the classics.
There is also a Graspop set that was livestreamed. But the Graspop livestream was dogshit in general. No idea who does the sound there, but somehow most bands sounded really fucking bad and amateurish (and that was not due to the bands). Especially vocals sounded shit for many bands for some reason. Compared to Hellfest, Pinkpop and some other recent festival streams it was so bad. I will say the Devin Townsend stream of Graspop was great from what I saw.
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I need to check out that Devin one then
Offspring were also probably my first heavy band I liked. They were also the first CD I owned with Smash. I had it on cassette too, but that was the time when I first got a CD player. They are very nostalgic for me.
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Offspring is playing at the OC County Fair, this July, I might as well get that out of the way while I still can if I see a ticket on the cheap. Plus, it includes free admission to the fair, so that's a bonus.
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I'm right there with you guys with The Offspring being your introduction into music and the first CD you owned. I bought Americana probably in late '99. I remember Pretty Fly for a White Guy being played a lot on the radio in the UK, when it came out.
I was the kid who was big into computer games but wasn't actually really into music. When I discovered Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and Crazy Taxi I started to realise how much I loved all this 90s American skate punk. I bought Americana not long after, even though I'm pretty sure all the Offspring songs on the Crazy Taxi soundtrack were from Ixnay on the Hombre.
My younger brother actually took my Americana CD and snapped it in anger because I played it so much. He really hated Walla Walla :lol
I saw The Offspring at the end of last year. It was only the second time I'd seen them, with a 17 year gap in between! They will always be a huge nostalgia trip for me, fucking good times.
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I think that shows how big the 90s and early 00s skate punk bands were especially The Offspring because they made it mainstream. I can kinda say the same for me because I remember when they released Self Esteem, what a smash hit that was. It spread like a wildfire at my school.
Haven't heard the other livestreams but Hellfest had a proper livemix other livestreams just uses I think it's called pro-shot which is a pre-livemix with no editing I think or something like that.
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There's 4 more days of Hellfest this weekend (that festival is insane, has like every single metal band on it :lol ) so I'm looking forward to seeing more high quality sets like this.
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The Kids Aren't Alright came up on my drive home this evening. I feel that song has the most staying power out of any Offspring song for me. It's been in fairly regular rotation for nearly 25 years.
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The Kids Aren't Alright came up on my drive home this evening. I feel that song has the most staying power out of any Offspring song for me. It's been in fairly regular rotation for nearly 25 years.
Awesome song. I think some Smash songs have more staying power for me from the nostalgia. Gotta Get Away, Come out and Play, Bad Habit, and Self Esteem are just iconic Offspring for me. The Kids Aren't Alright would definitely top my Americana songs list and definitely still holds strong today.