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SC would like a word with you.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."
Lyrically BC&SL is garbage, but musically it’s awesome.
The entire Mangini era is better than most of the pre-Mangini era.
Quote from: NoseofNicko on July 01, 2018, 11:28:40 PMLyrically BC&SL is garbage, but musically it’s awesome.Is that actually controversial? I thought that was a common thought here.
Quote from: Trav86 on July 18, 2018, 09:54:48 PMThe entire Mangini era is better than most of the pre-Mangini era.Now that's controversial.
Jordan took Moore's boring, pedestrian parts and elevated them considerably to take them from barely palatable to stellar.
I mean, The Astonishing is great, but can it really hold up to the combined force of all the pre-MM albums?
For context...Images and WordsAwakeThe Astonishing A Dramatic Turn of Events Dream Theater Falling into infinityScenes From a MemoryWhen Dream and Day UniteSix Degrees of Inner Turbulence Train of ThoughtOctavarium Systematic Chaos Black Clouds and Silver Linings
Indiscipline is a dirty boy.
We are 10 albums to 3 in the eras comparison rosters. I'm more than willing to wait for the next 7 albums to give a fair judgement.So far my personal podium:1. Images&Words / The Astonishing2. Scenes from a Memory3. A Dramatic Turn of Events / DT12
Quote from: Cool Chris on July 18, 2018, 03:43:13 PMQuote from: NoseofNicko on July 01, 2018, 11:28:40 PMLyrically BC&SL is garbage, but musically it’s awesome.Is that actually controversial? I thought that was a common thought here.It probably is a common thought but most people don't actually say "garbage" when they post.
Quote from: Indiscipline on July 19, 2018, 08:35:41 AMWe are 10 albums to 3 in the eras comparison rosters. I'm more than willing to wait for the next 7 albums to give a fair judgement.So far my personal podium:1. Images&Words / The Astonishing2. Scenes from a Memory3. A Dramatic Turn of Events / DT12No idea what that list means.
Quote from: Trav86 on July 19, 2018, 07:32:00 AMFor context...Images and WordsAwakeThe Astonishing A Dramatic Turn of Events Dream Theater Falling into infinityScenes From a MemoryWhen Dream and Day UniteSix Degrees of Inner Turbulence Train of ThoughtOctavarium Systematic Chaos Black Clouds and Silver LiningsInteresting. If you rate all on 1-10 scale then take the average of the Pre-MM vs. MM era, what would it look like?
Quote from: rumborak on July 18, 2018, 02:35:25 PMSC would like a word with you.SC is infinitely better than Black Clouds...
Quote from: NoseofNicko on June 21, 2018, 02:13:45 AMMy controversial opinion on DT: They still make good music.Every music site I go to everyone is saying they suck and they haven’t made a decent album since Portnoy left and they should stop making music.Preach!
My controversial opinion on DT: They still make good music.Every music site I go to everyone is saying they suck and they haven’t made a decent album since Portnoy left and they should stop making music.
Quote from: gzarruk on July 18, 2018, 03:09:49 PMQuote from: rumborak on July 18, 2018, 02:35:25 PMSC would like a word with you.SC is infinitely better than Black Clouds...- SC has aged well ('Prophets of War' is still lame) and is way better than BC&SL. On paper BC&SL seems 'better' and more like a quintessential DT release, but almost every song falls flat. As far as I'm concerned, 'Count of Tuscany' saved that album.- The guitar solo on 'Repentance' is one of the best in the entire DT discography.- 'Surrender to Reason' and 'The Bigger Picture' are criminally underrated. Melodic, progressive, heavy- with no extended jamming or solo sections. They would have been loved if included on older DT albums.
Also, IAW is not in my top 5.
Quote from: geeeemo on September 17, 2018, 03:35:24 PMAlso, IAW is not in my top 5. Actually, as great as the album really is, it doesn't appear in my top 10...And BC&SL is the best album they've done after the one in my username..
Not including any of their albums not named When Dream and Day Unite, I agree that BCSL is their best album.
It really grabbed me at first listen as well. It just didn't last, unfortunately. I still really love ANTR and TSF, and I like TCOT a fair amount as well. But as an album, it just isn't a favorite.
The problem of BC&SL is that the songs are just too long. It is a tiring listen.