Btw, Never Die, the title of this thread. DAYUM, that’s a good song
Hell yeah. And the title worked quite nicely.
I'll definitely check out those other albums. Thank you!
Cool. Brett Hestla is a talented guy. But yeah, Virgos Merlot: Signs of a Vacant Soul. Listen to the lyrics too. Album is a bit of a theme/concept too, which was taboo for bands of that era that weren't "prog metal."
Great thread, Samsara–thanks to you, I gave Human Clay a spin for the first time in ages this morning.
And will always maintain it's criminal that To Whom It May Concern and Is The End were relegated to B-Sides, two of their best magnificent stuff \m/
Both are killer. I also love Young Grow Old, which wasn't on the original version of Human Clay in the U.S., but was in Europe.
What's everyone's thoughts on Full Circle? I was pretty hyped when I heard it was coming out but skeptical because AB had been putting out great records so I was wondering how the band was gonna do after a break. Overall the album is a good album but is eclipsed by their previous works. It felt unpolished to me and could've used more time to bake.
I just finished spinning Full Circle. It had been several years. It sounds like a band putting out a record. The thing is, Creed music is a step back for Mark. He has grown so much as a player and songwriter that Full Circle just seemed to me like a record that he was fighting to hold himself back, musically. Vocally, Stapp is Stapp. Sounds like he always does. The lyrics aren't as dark. For me, other than a couple of songs, "Overcome" and "Rain," I really don't think the album is all that impressive.
Mark has said for a few years now (ever since Scott had his breakdown and then recovered) that he's sitting on a full Creed record they decided not to release (I'm guessing because of Scott's mental breakdown). So it's something they could, foreseeably, release at some point in the future. But I question if it's worth it at this point. If it's basically the same album as Full Circle, again, it's a step BACK for Tremonti.
I'd love to see Creed tour again. I mean, the 30th anniversary of Creed is 2024. The 30th anniversary of their debut, My Own Prison, is 2027. Depending on schedules and what AB and Tremonti's solo band are doing, I could see a Creed tour and album at some point between those years. Not sure the album is necessary, but if they are going to do one more tour, 2024-2027 is probably the right time to do it, and call it a day.
If I were a betting man, I would guess 2027. The 30th of MOP. I say that, because AB releases records every three years. So if they do another in fall 2025, it would give them the remainder of 2025 and all of 2026 to promote AB (and 2024-2025 for Tremonti), and then 2027 could be the big Creed reunion tour. Anniversaries are big things for concert promoters. So that's my guess.
But coming full circle, Full Circle isn't something I'm overly impressed with. It was a let down except those two tracks, at least for me.