Now let's talk about flat-earth - what is this "belief" based on? Bullshit - that's what because there is no scientific data supporting the flat-earth belief but you know what flat earthers could do? Charter a boat, bring some real scientists, document the data and find the edge of the earth but there is no way they would do this because they're lazy. They just want the luxury of saying they are right and everyone else is wrong simply because they "feel" that they are right. They run from the hard work it takes to come up with a working scientific theory. But if they did this and came up with hard data, I would then have to reconsider. Spoiler alert - they won't.
But, this was the science and belief held by some people before they were able to, you know, fly and travel the world. Before that man, took the initiative, to build a machine, or charter a boat, and set out to see for himself. And yet, people still didn't believe him, their Trust wasn't there for them to Believe his word, and take his word for it.
Science is based wholeheartedly on Trust. And Distrust, is why you have other scientists going out to disprove the others words, and findings.
Science, may very well end up proving a religion was created out of a lie, and it is in fact, a cult that grew immensely. Because people, in turn, took one mans words as Gospel.
Unless, that man was in fact an alien that came from a UFO....
It's damn near impossible for the average man to just charter a boat, bring in "real scientists", document the data, and find the edge of the earth. It's costs money, and resources, and resources and money are not infinite. And honestly, if I could easily do it, I definitely would. I think a lot of people most definitely would be glad to.
If you actually look up at the sky and look from East to West to North to South, you can see a sort of a spherical quality to the atmosphere. Just looking at the pattern the sun moves from East to West, should tell you this. The Sun in winter is shorter, and longer in the summer, meaning short and longer days. The Sun rises more south in winter, and more North in the summer. And the moon also has its cycles, that sometimes correlate with the sun and this causes Eclipses. This understanding came from living. And when that living was disrupted, so was that knowledge disrupted from being taught.
So I don't know how you can't understand this just from looking and living in the world...Must not be paying attention at all to life, and living in the cave with a veil over the eyes. They probably just need to get outside more.
I have no problem if someone wants to say that science is a belief but let's examine what this belief is based on. With regards to the vaccine, I have confidence that it will work because the mRNA technology used in some of the vaccines has been around for at least 15 years so it was no surprise that it was developed so quickly. The vaccine went through rigorous accelerated testing . The companies developing the vaccines had to submit their testing results in order to get emergency approval for use. Faulty data was the reason AZ was paused and once they cleaned up the data, they were able to resume distribution so there was no reason to "feel" that the vaccines would be successful.
I agree, and understand the benefits of vaccines. I just don't see them as the end all solution to the issues we have regarding our health and diseases. The ideas, and solutions, that we could take, that I feel and know we can do, are more long term, and are not easy, quick-fix solutions. These require hard-work and dedication, and really, an entire change of mindset....Myself included.
Because, we as humans, create our own problems, and can therefore, create solutions that can solve these problems. Without, turning to "The Other" or reliance on an outside entity. I do believe there is an outside entity, but also, that outside entity, wants us to do as much as we can do ourselves, without relying on it for sustenance. And that's all it wants us to realize and do, so that we can have a world where every living thing can have their freedoms and live peacefully, not just humans live on this world. Yet, for some reason, we believe we own it and can control it. Yet, the world always proves us wrong.
My issue with current Science is this...How where those "Scientists" to figure out the other "uncivilized" cultures didn't understand and know that same "Science", when they assumed them to be savage and less than capable of grasping the knowledge they are so proud of knowing and regarding themselves as the know-all-end-all true way of knowing and understanding?
By the way, I am appreciating you responding. It's good that we can have these discussions civilly.