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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1435 on: August 27, 2013, 11:15:33 AM »
Quote from: wasteland on August 27, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
The thing with PMU is that it's vay overrated by casual fans and criminally underrated by a part of the hardcore community. I am a proud lover of the song, and it should speak of my liking of IAW the fact that I'm forced to rank it second-to-last in the list of its best songs.

I've always thought of PMU as DT's Tom Sawyer. A great song in its own right, but merely okay when compared to the rest of the catalogue.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1436 on: August 27, 2013, 11:16:11 AM »
Quote from: Lucidity on August 27, 2013, 10:30:29 AM
I must be the only one around here who hates Outcry...

It's actually one of my favorite songs off of ADTOE :D
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1437 on: August 27, 2013, 11:25:33 AM »
Quote from: Enlil36 on August 27, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
-BC&SL is my favorite DT album.

That's pretty weird :D


Quote from: Enlil36 on August 27, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
-Systematic is my second favorite.

Great album, but not that great IMO.


Quote from: Enlil36 on August 27, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
-ADTOE is my fourth favorite.

It's my fifth favourite, but pretty close.


Quote from: Enlil36 on August 27, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
-Prophets of War and Constant Motion are some of the best songs in SC.

No


Quote from: Enlil36 on August 27, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
-Pull Me Under is not that great of a song.
:hifive:


Quote from: Enlil36 on August 27, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
-ADTOE ballads are the BEST ballads.  ;D

No, SDV.


Quote from: Enlil36 on August 27, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
-Octavarium is one of the worst DT albums. (not counting the title track)

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Quote from: Enlil36 on August 27, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
-Long DT songs are the best.

No


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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1438 on: August 27, 2013, 11:40:19 AM »
Quote from: aprilethereal on August 27, 2013, 11:25:33 AM
Quote from: Enlil36 on August 27, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
-Long DT songs are the best.
No
Is this one even considered controversial around here? As far as I know the highest regarded song from each album is usually the longest one, or at least one of the longest ones.

And personally, the only album I can think of where I wouldn't pick the longest or second longest song as my favourite is Images And Words, and even there my top 3 of Take The Time, Learning To Live, and Metropolis are the longest three.

To add a controversial opinion: On The Backs Of Angels is better than The Enemy Inside.

Or at least, that seems slightly controversial around here right now. I expect within a year it will be the other way round.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1439 on: August 27, 2013, 11:42:16 AM »
Seems like you fucked up the quotes, I didn't write something like "Is this one even considered controversial around here?" :D
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1440 on: August 27, 2013, 11:43:07 AM »
Quote from: aprilethereal on August 27, 2013, 11:25:33 AM
That's pretty weird :D

Yeah,I was always distinguished from other DT fans.
For example,most people think Awake is the best or one of the best albums,while for me it's a normal album and it's not that special.
The exact opposite happens with BC&SL ;D
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1441 on: August 27, 2013, 02:36:20 PM »
I suppose it's controversial to say that I think Systematic Chaos is every bit as good as Images and Words.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1442 on: August 27, 2013, 02:57:36 PM »
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 27, 2013, 02:36:20 PM
I suppose it's controversial to say that I think Systematic Chaos is every bit as good as Images and Words.
I would think so, yes.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1443 on: August 27, 2013, 03:08:52 PM »
Metropolis is pretty much the only reason why I&W edges out SC for me.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1444 on: August 27, 2013, 03:13:19 PM »
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Metropolis is pretty much the only reason why I&W edges out SC for me.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1445 on: August 27, 2013, 03:21:54 PM »
The last truly great sounding DT album was SDOIT.

Although, that doesn't sound controversial at all.  :millahhhh Let me see..

Ah, yes! James LaBrie wasn't as godly back in 92/93 as most people make him see. Of course he was a behemoth and he did amazing things with his voice, but he pushed his voice to extremes live back then which 'caused his voice to crack a friggin' lot. His tone was incredible but it just bugs me how much his voice cracked.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1446 on: August 27, 2013, 07:43:10 PM »
Quote from: Outcrier on August 22, 2013, 01:31:15 PM
The masterplan was dump Rudess after Six Degrees, get another keyboardist, make two albums, dump the new keyboardist then repeat until forever :rollin

Just joking

Ah yes, the Jon Schaffer method.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1447 on: August 27, 2013, 07:45:53 PM »
Far From Heaven is by far my least favorite DT song. There is not a single redeeming quality about it. I'd rather listen to WDADU on repeat.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1448 on: August 27, 2013, 08:09:34 PM »
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 27, 2013, 03:08:52 PM
Metropolis is pretty much the only reason why I&W edges out SC for me.

Quote from: fllnsprrw on August 27, 2013, 07:45:53 PM
Far From Heaven is by far my least favorite DT song. There is not a single redeeming quality about it. I'd rather listen to WDADU on repeat.

My god, what is going on in this thread
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1449 on: August 27, 2013, 08:17:53 PM »
Quote from: theseoafs on August 27, 2013, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 27, 2013, 03:08:52 PM
Metropolis is pretty much the only reason why I&W edges out SC for me.

Quote from: fllnsprrw on August 27, 2013, 07:45:53 PM
Far From Heaven is by far my least favorite DT song. There is not a single redeeming quality about it. I'd rather listen to WDADU on repeat.

My god, what is going on in this thread

Controversial opinions, my friend. What did you expect?
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1450 on: August 27, 2013, 08:36:47 PM »
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on August 27, 2013, 03:21:54 PM
The last truly great sounding DT album was SDOIT.

Agreed  :tup
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1451 on: August 27, 2013, 08:43:22 PM »
Quote from: Lucidity on August 27, 2013, 10:30:29 AM
I must be the only one around here who hates Outcry...

Nope. I've never liked it either. Weakest song on the album to me, and one of my least favourite DT songs (not sure if quite bottom 10, but definitely bottom 20).
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1452 on: August 27, 2013, 08:46:59 PM »
I think Outcry needed more 8:43 than 4:42
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1453 on: August 27, 2013, 09:20:56 PM »
Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 27, 2013, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: Lucidity on August 27, 2013, 10:30:29 AM
I must be the only one around here who hates Outcry...

Nope. I've never liked it either. Weakest song on the album to me, and one of my least favourite DT songs (not sure if quite bottom 10, but definitely bottom 20).

Thank you! It's got so many great musical ideas but it's such a poorly constructed song that I can never stand to listen to it.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1454 on: August 27, 2013, 09:57:00 PM »
Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 27, 2013, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: Lucidity on August 27, 2013, 10:30:29 AM
I must be the only one around here who hates Outcry...

Nope. I've never liked it either. Weakest song on the album to me, and one of my least favourite DT songs (not sure if quite bottom 10, but definitely bottom 20).

So... Things ARE opposite on the lower side of the equator?  :lol
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1455 on: August 27, 2013, 10:11:04 PM »
Quote from: Outcrier on August 27, 2013, 08:46:59 PM
I think Outcry needed more 8:43 than 4:42
Absolutely. That's my favorite part of the song. And I dislike the instrumental section.

Now for my controversial opinion: I think metropolis is the worst song on I&W. Yep. I said it.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1456 on: August 27, 2013, 10:29:45 PM »
As singles go, The Enemy Inside is better than Pull Me Under.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1457 on: August 27, 2013, 10:31:41 PM »
I think The Enemy Inside was exactly the kind of song I was hoping DT wouldn't have on DT12.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1458 on: August 27, 2013, 10:33:10 PM »
Quote from: Lucidity on August 27, 2013, 10:31:41 PM
I think The Enemy Inside was exactly the kind of song I was hoping DT wouldn't have on DT12.

It would've been better if it sounded a little more like Constant Motion.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1459 on: August 27, 2013, 10:51:39 PM »
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 27, 2013, 10:33:10 PM
Quote from: Lucidity on August 27, 2013, 10:31:41 PM
I think The Enemy Inside was exactly the kind of song I was hoping DT wouldn't have on DT12.

It would've been better if it sounded a little more like Constant Motion.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1460 on: August 27, 2013, 11:21:00 PM »
I love Systematic Chaos.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1461 on: August 27, 2013, 11:45:42 PM »
Quote from: adamack on August 27, 2013, 11:21:00 PM
I love Systematic Chaos.

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Me too  :tup
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1462 on: August 27, 2013, 11:51:18 PM »
Well... I love it more, you guys!
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1463 on: August 28, 2013, 12:01:57 AM »
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on August 27, 2013, 03:21:54 PM
Ah, yes! James LaBrie wasn't as godly back in 92/93 as most people make him see. Of course he was a behemoth and he did amazing things with his voice, but he pushed his voice to extremes live back then which 'caused his voice to crack a friggin' lot. His tone was incredible but it just bugs me how much his voice cracked.

Absolutely this.
I remember how I was disappointed during my first live show in Milan in '93, :blush hearing how JLB was not singing properly the high notes, instead cracking as you mention....
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1464 on: August 28, 2013, 01:17:55 AM »
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 27, 2013, 03:08:52 PM
Metropolis is pretty much the only reason why I&W edges out SC for me.

Oh yes, exactly this! As much as I love SC, none of its songs come close to Metropolis, although it's a way more consistent album than I&W in my opinion (SYSTEMATIC CHAOS IS MORE CONSISTENT THAN IMAGES AND WORDS, GUYS). I'm not even sure anymore if I should really rank SC below FII. There is some incredible stuff on FII, but NM and JLMB (and maybe YNM) drag it down a bit.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1465 on: August 28, 2013, 01:18:15 AM »
I wish MP used a different snare sound on awake. Its also too high in the mix where it could have gone to other things which kind of brings the album down for me. I enjoy SC more.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1466 on: August 28, 2013, 01:22:53 AM »
Not really controversial, but the way everyone argues over which DT album or which DT song is better, makes me think of Malcolm In The Middle, when he started coming to the class for the smart kids, and how all the smart kids were ranked in like the 99.9999 percentile, but still fought like crazy over who'd get the highest decimal point of 99.999%.
That's how DT is, we always fight over what's the best, but compared to the rest of the music out there, DT is still like the gifted class and vast majority of their songs would be in the 99.9999% compared to the rest of the music out there.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1467 on: August 28, 2013, 02:03:21 AM »
Totally agree with you.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1468 on: August 28, 2013, 03:19:49 AM »
Quote from: aprilethereal on August 28, 2013, 01:17:55 AM
(SYSTEMATIC CHAOS IS MORE CONSISTENT THAN IMAGES AND WORDS, GUYS)
Yeah, it's more consistently weak :biggrin:
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1469 on: August 28, 2013, 03:24:40 AM »
Quote from: ? on August 28, 2013, 03:19:49 AM
Quote from: aprilethereal on August 28, 2013, 01:17:55 AM
(SYSTEMATIC CHAOS IS MORE CONSISTENT THAN IMAGES AND WORDS, GUYS)
Yeah, it's more consistently weak :biggrin:

Hey, get your boring and predictable, non-controversial (also untrue) opinions out of here.  :hat
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