Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One

[Implode]

I thought that last scene was excellent, and I agree with the people earlier who said it would've made for an epic Vader reveal instead of having him show up to do nothing earlier in the movie.

I agree with that.  But I have no problem with how they did it.  I mean, we all know that Vader is a hugely important figure during the time these events unfold, and that he would have been active and doing stuff, so I think it is appropriate that we see him earlier, and it would have been sort of weird to not see him and just be wondering what he is up to.

Also, even though we all know Vader, in terms of a standalone movie, I think it would have been weird to have such an important character only appear right at the end to kill people for a minute and that's it.

Both good points. I don't think Vader detracted from the movie at all either. I thought it was appropriate even though he was underutilized in the plot. Of course that's par the course for most characters in the movie.

it had a very 'Anakin in the Clone Wars TV show' feel.....which I loved.

This so much. It truly made Vader feel like an evil force to be reckoned with.

[Orbert]

Yep, same voice and costume, but a different physical actor playing the part, and it was obvious.  It seems like they would've paid more attention to that.  I mean, for continuity's sake, they should've had the guy playing Vader literally watch A New Hope and spend some time learning how to move and walk the same way.

[T-ski]

Spencer Wilding who played Vader said,

"We studied the movements of Darth Vader. We had a trainer who got it bang on. We wanted to keep it 'Darth Vader!' It's every actor's dream. I'm still pinching myself!"

https://movieweb.com/rogue-one-star-wars-darth-vader-actor-interview/

[Adami]

Spencer Wilding who played Vader said,

"We studied the movements of Darth Vader. We had a trainer who got it bang on. We wanted to keep it 'Darth Vader!' It's every actor's dream. I'm still pinching myself!"

https://movieweb.com/rogue-one-star-wars-darth-vader-actor-interview/

Huh. Well, in that case......

[Orbert]

We had a trainer who got it bang on.

The trainer should've been in the suit.

[BlobVanDam]

We had a trainer who got it bang on.

The trainer should've been in the suit.

The trainer might not have been tall/big enough.

[Kotowboy]

It was Warwick Davis

[BlackInk]

Not only is Vader cool in the hallway scene, but they nailed absolutely everything about it. Vader of course was awesome, the score in that scene is insane, the way it was shot was perfect, and just the way it's structured with the door not working and the Death Star plans just out of Vader's reach. I liked the movie, but I'm not crazy about it and think it has some problems, but that scene is a perfect movie moment for a whole bunch of reasons.

[Adami]

I'm glad they kept his motions for the hallway scene very simple. If he had been all kung-fu master like in the prequels, that would have been a terrible choice.

[T-ski]

I'll be that guy....

Why didn't Vader use the Force to grab the disc out of that dudes hand?

[bl5150]

He didn't want him to feel like he was forcing his hand.


I must admit that I was thinking that at the time, but then hey..............stormtrooper armour 

[Adami]

I'll be that guy....

Why didn't Vader use the Force to grab the disc out of that dudes hand?

Same reason person X didn't use the force to solve any other problem in any other film. It's what happens when you introduce an insane power that could solve most things.

[Kotowboy]

I'll be that guy....

Why didn't Vader use the Force to grab the disc out of that dudes hand?

Same reason person X didn't use the force to solve any other problem in any other film. It's what happens when you introduce an insane power that could solve most things.

Like the sonic screwdriver. *cough* Deux Ex Machina *cough*

[gmillerdrake]

I'll be that guy....

Why didn't Vader use the Force to grab the disc out of that dudes hand?

I think it's as simple as he didn't know that guy was carrying the disc/file that had 'the' plans. It was a packed hallway full of people shooting at him and although he cut through them fairly easily I'm sure it would have required a lot of focus and attention to the 15 people shooting at him to A.) not get shot and deflect those shots B) wield his light saber and attack.

I can totally look past the fact he didn't snag that disc with the force due to what he had to focus his attention on in order to even make it to the end of the corridor.

[BlobVanDam]

He probably tired himself out a bit mowing through an entire hallway of dudes using force powers.

[BlackInk]

I also think it's because he just didn't know that the dude in the back had what he was looking for in his hands.

[gmillerdrake]

I also think it's because he just didn't know that the dude in the back had what he was looking for in his hands.

I think it's as simple as he didn't know that guy was carrying the disc/file that had 'the' plans.

yep...I think it's that easy of an explanation....certainly he's a crafty Sith Lord but that doesn't mean he 'knows' everything at all times....

[Polarbear]

Saw R1, for the second time today.

I liked it more. I appreciated the character moments more. And as a result, appreciated their final fate more.

Not as good as Empire, ANH or TFA, but i think i'm beginning to like it more than Jedi.

[Kotowboy]

Rogue One is how the Prequel trilogy should have been.

Let's just hope the next two follow suit.

[bosk1]

Rogue One is how the Prequel trilogy should have been.

Well, both had sand, so I'd say that makes them pretty similar.

[Kotowboy]

Rogue One is how the Prequel trilogy should have been.

Well, both had sand, so I'd say that makes them pretty similar.

But in Rogue One it didn't get everywhere....

[bosk1]

No, it did.  It's just that nobody complained about it.

[Implode]

I feel like a couple people might've complained about the sand mess the Empire made on Jedha.

[Kotowboy]

I liked that sequence. A planet exploding in almost super slow mo. And you're on the surface as the debris is coming towards you.

[Kotowboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sExTt4j69zI

RLM set their cross-hairs on Podcasts.



" i liked force awakens when it came out and now it sucks..."


That was hysterical. It reminded me of Still Untitled when they're all gushing about a film.

[Implode]

I'm mad they always release their videos early in the day while I'm at work. 

[Kotowboy]

I'm mad they always release their videos early in the day while I'm at work. 

it's a good one. Lots of laughs from me.

Also wrong thread. Sorry mods. But it *IS* Star Wars related luckily...

[Implode]

Dang it, you even made me think it was the wrong thread.

[BlobVanDam]

A short video on creating CGI Tarkin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMB2sLwz0Do

[Kotowboy]

Not bad.

It looked worse there than I remember in the cinema.

[Logain Ablar]

Very interesting. I think the fact that they had a cast of Peter Cushing's face helped them to keep the overall dimensions right. CGI Leia's face seems too long or something - the eyes are ok, but the mouth looks wrong to me.

[BlobVanDam]

It's really hard to capture a convincing likeness of someone. Humans are well tuned to recognizing faces from birth, so people can tell if anything is off, even if they can't pinpoint exactly what.

Not bad.

It looked worse there than I remember in the cinema.

The slight discrepancies are probably more noticeable when you're focusing on it out of context than when you're in the cinema taking in a film. I remember if looking maybe a little worse in the cinema, so maybe I'm just used to seeing him now.
I wonder how long it will be before a movie manages a 100% convincing CGI human. So close, yet so far.

[Logain Ablar]

It's really hard to capture a convincing likeness of someone. Humans are well tuned to recognizing faces from birth, so people can tell if anything is off, even if they can't pinpoint exactly what.

Totally. As soon as Tarkin appeared, my 9 year old pointed to the screen and said "Dad, is he animated, is he animated?", so it didn't fool him. 

[BlobVanDam]

Had you mentioned that earlier, or did I also read somewhere else about someone's kid saying the same thing?

[BlackInk]

I think someone else here had a kid sitting behind him who said like "that's a cartoon" or something.