Author Topic: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One (Read 460664 times)

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2170 on:** June 28, 2014, 01:47:54 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on June 28, 2014, 10:15:35 AM

Classic Characters then.

Nope, not that, either.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2171 on:** June 28, 2014, 05:28:41 PM »

orcus116 · « **Reply #2172 on:** June 28, 2014, 06:54:30 PM »

I'm pretty sure a very large majority of people would not be able to identify who Rick Deckard is if asked.

Cool Chris · « **Reply #2173 on:** June 28, 2014, 08:26:52 PM »

Blade Runner was about so much more than Deckard. Of course SW 4-6 was about much more than Han Solo, but that character was so vital to the story, and Ford gave him life that will endear Solo to fans for generations to come. And of course Indiana Jones is Indiana Jones.

Roger Ebert wrote a neat thing about Ford. "In a scene where everything is happening at once, he knows that nothing unnecessary need be happening on his face, in his voice, or to his character. He is the fulcrum, not the lever." He is the human element amid all the cgi, effects, green screens and explosions; his portrayals are what we the audience identify with and keep the story grounded despite whatever else might be happening on the screen, and that is why he is one of the greatest film actors of all time.

RuRoRul · « **Reply #2174 on:** June 28, 2014, 09:03:13 PM »

I had never heard of Richard Deckard, had to look it up when mentioned in this thread. I haven't seen that film (obviously) , and never even knew Harrison Ford was in it either. At first reading that post I thought that might his character in The Fugitive. So yeah, I'd definitely weigh in on the side of Rick Decker not being remotely close to the level of Han Solo or Indiana Jones (who are well known pop culture figures even if you haven't seen the films) in terms of being a "classic character". I think sometimes when you actually know the stuff it's hard to tell what the uninformed plebs (like me) will actually know.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2175 on:** June 29, 2014, 04:24:15 AM »

The general populace has no idea who Richard Dekker is, or what Blade Runner is.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2176 on:** June 29, 2014, 05:04:25 AM »

I'm pretty sure people are generally at least aware of what Blade Runner is, but Harrison Ford's character in it is not iconic imo. I think the character is most memorable for being Harrison Ford rather than the other way around.

If you dressed up as Indiana Jones or Han Solo, you would get recognized instantly. Not that clothes are what defines a character, but if the character is that memorable, people are going to recognize it instantly.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #2177 on:** June 29, 2014, 05:11:04 AM »

Not Iconic but he was awesome in Force 10 From Navarone.

You mention the bullwhip or Kessel Run and people automatically know.

Super Dude · « **Reply #2178 on:** June 29, 2014, 05:34:15 AM »

There's so little Star Wars news that we're talking about Blade Runner in the Star Wars thread. $:\$

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2179 on:** June 29, 2014, 06:14:00 AM »

Because they're in the same universe olilololololo

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2180 on:** June 29, 2014, 06:27:48 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 29, 2014, 05:04:25 AM

I'm pretty sure people are generally at least aware of what Blade Runner is

I don't. The only people who know it at all are geeks and nerds.

You know, us.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2181 on:** June 29, 2014, 06:37:18 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 29, 2014, 06:27:48 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 29, 2014, 05:04:25 AM
I'm pretty sure people are generally at least aware of what Blade Runner is
I don't. The only people who know it at all are geeks and nerds.

You know, us.

Wait, you mean there are other kinds of people too?

Mister Gold · « **Reply #2182 on:** June 29, 2014, 07:06:59 AM »

While he's certainly not an iconic character, Deckard is definitely my personal favorite performance that I've ever seen Harrison Ford give.

His conflicting approach to the character against Ridley Scott's own vision is what makes the whole mystery behind "Is Deckard a Replicant?" work so well; because he acts so human as Deckard, it's really hard to distinguish what Deckard really is. He could just be a human, but he could also be a Replicant that thinks he's human and thus naturally acts like one too. That sort of intrigue and inner conflict probably wouldn't have worked as well as it did if Deckard had been played by someone who agreed with Scott's vision for the character.

Zantera · « **Reply #2183 on:** June 29, 2014, 07:29:25 AM »

While Han Solo and Indy are by far his most iconic characters, I would have to say that Deckard is probably his best character out of three in terms of his acting. He really adds a depth and mystery to Deckard, and it becomes a great character because of him. Indy and Han Solo are both great characters because of his charm and funny wit, but I would say his performance as Deckard shines slightly more.

Mister Gold · « **Reply #2184 on:** June 29, 2014, 07:49:57 AM »

Quote from: Zantera on June 29, 2014, 07:29:25 AM

While Han Solo and Indy are by far his most iconic characters, I would have to say that Deckard is probably his best character out of three in terms of his acting. He really adds a depth and mystery to Deckard, and it becomes a great character because of him. Indy and Han Solo are both great characters because of his charm and funny wit, but I would say his performance as Deckard shines slightly more.

Exactly.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2185 on:** July 21, 2014, 07:50:09 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWBGrkc360M

Super Dude · « **Reply #2186 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:16:27 AM »

Also unconfirmed plot leaks but I'm not gonna post it till it's confirmed or debunked.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2187 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:34:06 AM »

There are plot rumours every other day lately. The latest being something about Luke's hand making it into space, and something about a storm trooper? Anyone can make up anything on the internet.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2188 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:55:02 AM »

IF LANDO ISN'T INVOLVED I WILL CRY

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #2189 on:** July 21, 2014, 10:07:46 AM »

Quote from: Mister Gold on June 29, 2014, 07:49:57 AM

Quote from: Zantera on June 29, 2014, 07:29:25 AM
While Han Solo and Indy are by far his most iconic characters, I would have to say that Deckard is probably his best character out of three in terms of his acting. He really adds a depth and mystery to Deckard, and it becomes a great character because of him. Indy and Han Solo are both great characters because of his charm and funny wit, but I would say his performance as Deckard shines slightly more.

Exactly.

I liked his role and acting in "Regarding Henry" also.....thought it was pretty strong.

Super Dude · « **Reply #2190 on:** July 21, 2014, 10:29:04 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 21, 2014, 09:34:06 AM

There are plot rumours every other day lately. The latest being something about Luke's hand making it into space, and something about a storm trooper? Anyone can make up anything on the internet.

The one I heard was Luke's hand is found on Tatooine with his lightsaber and the two leading roles track down Han to go and find him. Sounds like a crock o' shit to me, but Disney will neither confirm nor deny it at this time.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2191 on:** July 21, 2014, 10:36:17 AM »

Quote from: Super Dude on July 21, 2014, 10:29:04 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 21, 2014, 09:34:06 AM
There are plot rumours every other day lately. The latest being something about Luke's hand making it into space, and something about a storm trooper? Anyone can make up anything on the internet.

The one I heard was Luke's hand is found on Tatooine with his lightsaber and the two leading roles track down Han to go and find him. Sounds like a crock o' shit to me, but Disney will neither confirm nor deny it at this time.

Yeah, same one I saw. If that ends up being correct at all, I will vow to watch nothing but Star Wars Ep 1 for the rest of my life.

Disney shouldn't even waste their time acknowledging most of these rumours.

Super Dude · « **Reply #2192 on:** July 21, 2014, 12:06:29 PM »

I mean I wouldn't put it past 'em to pull the whole "the band split up right after we won" thing, but yeah, the hand thing seems so farfetched.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2193 on:** July 21, 2014, 05:31:48 PM »

If Lando Carlrissian is in Episode 7 - he should be played by Simon Pegg.

MetalJunkie · « **Reply #2194 on:** July 21, 2014, 07:35:39 PM »

Seems like I remember from one of the books that an evil clone was made from Luke's hand named "Luuke Skywalker."

Jaq · « **Reply #2195 on:** July 21, 2014, 07:36:45 PM »

Quote from: MetalJunkie on July 21, 2014, 07:35:39 PM

Seems like I remember from one of the books that an evil clone was made from Luke's hand named "Luuke Skywalker."

The Thrawn trilogy did that, yes. The books people wanted to base the new ones on. You can probably see why they didn't

jammindude · « **Reply #2196 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:29:58 PM »

If they do this "we found Luke's severed hand on Tatooine" thing, I'm absolutely OUT.

That is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. I'd rather watch a Jar Jar spin off movie than something that opened with that dumb of a premise.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2197 on:** July 21, 2014, 11:01:12 PM »

Quote from: Super Dude on July 21, 2014, 12:06:29 PM

I mean I wouldn't put it past 'em to pull the whole "the band split up right after we won" thing, but yeah, the hand thing seems so farfetched.

I do expect they'll split the characters up, so that part makes sense. But I very much doubt a hand will be what drives that story.

In fact, that sounds like quite a worthless reason to find Luke, and would make a crummy setup for the continuation of a franchise.

However, I do expect that Luke's role will be similar to Obiwan/Yoda, being in hiding, and they have to find him, and he becomes the mentor to the new characters. I'm sure the reason for finding him will be much more important than returning corpse parts.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2198 on:** July 22, 2014, 07:09:01 AM »

It would make more sense to just want to return the lightsaber.

Why would it be on Tatooine?

bosk1 · « **Reply #2199 on:** July 22, 2014, 08:02:58 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 22, 2014, 07:09:01 AM

Why would it be on Tatooine?

Because it returned home to seek vengeance on those who had wronged it.

ZirconBlue · « **Reply #2200 on:** July 22, 2014, 08:18:10 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 22, 2014, 07:09:01 AM

It would make more sense to just want to return the lightsaber.

Why would it be on Tatooine?

All plotlines run through Tatooine.

bosk1 · « **Reply #2201 on:** July 22, 2014, 08:20:02 AM »

Yes, but whatever happened to, "What happens on Tatooine stays on Tatooine"? Talk about a failed ad campaign. $:\$

Jaq · « **Reply #2202 on:** July 22, 2014, 11:30:15 AM »

Quote from: bosk1 on July 22, 2014, 08:20:02 AM

Yes, but whatever happened to, "What happens on Tatooine stays on Tatooine"? Talk about a failed ad campaign. $:\$

I always thought it was 'whatever happens in Mos Eisley, stays in Mos Eisley' myself

bosk1 · « **Reply #2203 on:** July 22, 2014, 12:00:26 PM »

Oh, well see, maybe I just wasn't paying careful enough attention then...

Arry · « **Reply #2204 on:** July 22, 2014, 12:08:46 PM »

I WANT ONE!!!

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