Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One

[PetFish]

I think this is a great opportunity to reboot Star Wars without actually rebooting it.

For Star Trek, JJ had to create a plausible situation to start fresh.  For Star Wars, all the Jedi are dead or a few are in hiding.  Luke has to start over and rebuild the Jedi and they can set their style and everything from scratch.  New saber colours, new saber weapons (daggers, tri-bo, etc), new outfit styles, etc.

I'm hoping they do a Dark Council where some fresh Sith look at the past and say "well, the 2-rule didn't work out too well, so let's have 3 Sith leaders and 9 more for a Dark Council, and then a bunch of noobs and have an all-out Sith army".

They can basically do whatever they want without having to come up with anything crazy or a total reboot.

[BlobVanDam]

They should CG them Tron: Legacy style. Creepy uncanny valley versions of them would still be preferable to their current state.


j/k, I'm fine with them being old.

[Orbert]

[hefdaddy42]

Awesome

[Super Dude]

Who's standing between Ford, Fisher, and the tall guy who I can only assume was Chewie? That's not 3PO/Anthony whatever, is it?

[BlobVanDam]

Is it Vader?

[yorost]

Somebody looks a lot shorter than in the movies.

[Orbert]

Back row: Harrison Ford (Han Solo), David Prowse (Darth Vader), Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca)
Middle row: Carrie Fisher (Princess Leia Organa), Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker)
Front row: Kenny Baker (R2-D2)

[Zook]

FYI, Yoda watches over me at work.....

Is that the Yoda toy from Taco Bell?

[zepp-head]

Since I haven't seen it mentioned yet, The Clone Wars series has been discontinued due to the direction Lucasfilm Animation wants to take under Disney.

[PetFish]

But they're still going to wrap stuff up I think, at least that's what I got from the Dave Filoni video.

I'm sad, of course, but I'm also glad they have a definite end coming up and aren't just "winging it" cuz it's going on indefinitely.  Like How I Met Your Mother has its last season coming up so they can definitely end things properly.

[Cyclopssss]

Oops, never mind...

[eric42434224]

https://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/03/18/death_star_an_inside_job_watch_luke_s_change_parody_9_11_conspiracy_video.html

Destruction of Death Star was an inside job.

[Super Dude]

They should retcon the prequels in episode 7.

[Phoenix87x]

They should retcon the prequels in episode 7.

Or better yet, Disney could just do a little revisionist history and re-number A New Hope as Episode 1 and just pretend that the prequel trilogy never happened. 

[yorost]

They should retcon the prequels in episode 7.

Why not, they're already retconning the entire EU. Just go back to 3 movies and start over.

[Super Dude]

That's the idea.

[zepp-head]

They should retcon the prequels in episode 7.

Agreed.  I already hate everything Disney has done with the deal so far, why not shit on source material and films that are widely enjoyed as well.

[jammindude]

The prequels are widely enjoyed?

[BlobVanDam]

The prequels are widely enjoyed?

Of course they are! Who doesn't love Episode 1? It added so much to the mythology of the franchise, such as the midichlorians, and little Anny winning his happy meal toy race, and Jar Jar Binx is like the new C3PO. Speaking of which, I like how Anakin made C3PO. It added more depth to the story. And the movie finally gave the fans the detailed space politics they had been dying to see for 20 years!

And I love Episode 2 too. Best comedy movie I've seen in a long time.

[Fiery Winds]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

It didn't George, and I'll never forgive you!  The only consolation to my sorrows was getting to hear more amazing John Williams music. 

[hefdaddy42]

They should retcon the prequels in episode 7.

Agreed.  I already hate everything Disney has done with the deal so far, why not shit on source material and films that are widely enjoyed as well.

What have they done?

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

It didn't George, and I'll never forgive you!  The only consolation to my sorrows was getting to hear more amazing John Williams music. 

Amen to that.

[BlackInk]

I didn't like Phantom Menace at all. Attack of the Clones was an improvement but not very good either. I have nothing against Revenge of the Sith though, I think that is great.

[Super Dude]

TPM was horrible, AotC was horrible and uncomfortable, and ROTS is not as openly offensive as the other two but still could have been loads better. I was just watching ROTS the other day, and I remember liking Reap's rewrite so much better (unfortunately I don't remember much about the rewrite itself).

[BlobVanDam]

I find TPM to be cringeworthy to the point of being completely unwatchable, AotC is so bad that it's hilarious and enjoyable for all the wrong reasons, and I found ROTS to be not as objectively bad as the others, but painfully dull and predictable imo.

I think it would take one hell of a conscious effort for the upcoming movies to be anywhere near as bad as the PT.

[Super Dude]

I find TPM to be cringeworthy to the point of being completely unwatchable, AotC is so bad that it's hilarious and enjoyable for all the wrong reasons, and I found ROTS to be not as objectively bad as the others, but painfully dull and predictable imo.

I think it would take one hell of a conscious effort for the upcoming movies to be anywhere near as bad as the PT.

That's the descriptor I was looking for, thank you.

As for the conscious effort bit, Lucas is writing the story treatment, so we'll see.

[hefdaddy42]

Yes, but better writers will be doing the actual scripts, so they will be able to fix his awfulness.  And if not, JJ will.

I can honestly say that I would be OK with never again watching 1-3.

[zepp-head]

The prequels are widely enjoyed?

Of course they are. 

They should retcon the prequels in episode 7.
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Agreed.  I already hate everything Disney has done with the deal so far, why not shit on source material and films that are widely enjoyed as well.

What have they done?

Canceled The Clone Wars (not that I'll miss it, but it had a lot of fans), shut down LucasArts, fired all the employees, and canceled the games that were in progress.  That includes Star Wars 1313, which was shaping up to be what I felt the Expanded Universe always should have been.

[The King in Crimson]

It's not even worth sitting through TPM just for the cool fight scene at the end. That movie is completely irredeemable. I'll never forgive younger me for actually enjoying it the first time I watched it.

About half of AotC has a good movie nestled somewhere in it.  Too bad it's surrounded by a terrible and boring love story. I at least find it amusing to rewatch, whereas TPM is just painful.

I haven't ever rewatched RotS since I first saw it. It was terribly mediocre (at best) in the theater so I don't see another viewing improving it at all.

[orcus116]

I'm the opposite. TPM is mildly watchable, ROTS more-so but AOTC is one of the most forgettable movies I've ever seen. Nothing of importance happens in it and it's pretty much on made-for-TV level in terms of quality.

[zepp-head]

I loved all of them.  I regret nothing! 

[jingle.boy]

I'm the opposite. TPM is mildly watchable, ROTS more-so but AOTC is one of the most forgettable movies I've ever seen. Nothing of importance happens in it and it's pretty much on made-for-TV level in terms of quality.

This... but it's only the latter half of TPM that is mildly watchable.  The only thing of importance in AOTC is Anakin's slaughter of the sand people, and hence the emergence of his dark emotions.

[orcus116]

I forgot that even happened. But who really cares? They're sand people.

[The King in Crimson]

I forgot that even happened. But who really cares? They're sand people.

They're still people.