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What would you say?
I have to pick Rising and Sad Wings of Destiny.
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From the albums on the list:
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail
Camel - Moonmadness
Not on the list:
Genesis - Wind and Wuthering
The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination
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Rush and Judas Priest
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Rush and Judas Priest
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Rush and Judas Priest
Yup. Two albums that significantly changed the way I viewed rock and roll. Although, I didn't get into Sad Wings until '78.
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Rainbow's Rising and Priest's Sad Wings. The stuff of legend.
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Disco Train - Donny Osmond
Getting It In The Streets - David Cassidy.
No, not really:
1. Rising - Rainbow
2 Wind and Wuthering - Genesis
Honorable mention:
High Voltage - AC/DC
Rock and Roll Over - Kiss
Sad Wings Of Destiny - Judas Priest
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None. Not a very good year in music.
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None. Not a very good year in music.
Is TAC taking over bosk1's posts? :lol
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I went with Rainbow and Zeppelin. 2112 was selected initially until I saw it was only 2 votes allowed
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This is pretty easy: 2112 and Rising.
Side 1 of Boston rivals side 1 of 2112 and side 2 of Rising, but side 2 of Boston is just meh.
A Trick of the Tail and Leftoverture are great albums; just not on the level of 2112 and Rising. These two and Boston would be very closely bunched at 3-5.
Sad Wings has a couple good songs, but the live versions on Unleashed in the East are so much better.
Achilles Last Stand is far and away my favorite Led Zeppelin song, but the rest of Presence ranges from average to poor.
The rest on the list I'm either not a fan of the band/artist or have only one song I like or (in the case of Camel) I've never heard of outside of this forum.
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I only needed one vote. :)
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Rainbow's Rising and Priest's Sad Wings. The stuff of legend.
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Rising without hesitation.
Agents of Fortune surprisingly beat Frank and Steely Dan.
Don't sleep on Rory Gallagher's Calling Card, Weather Report's Black Market and Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior.
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I only needed one vote. :)
Glad to know you enjoy Presence as much as I do! :loser:
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Going by my top 50 of all time.
Leftoverture and Hotel California are my 2.
As a Rush fan I know a lot of you are surprised but it's my 3rd favorite album from 1976
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Sad Wings and Dreamboat Annie by Heart. Historical year for quality.
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None. Not a very good year in music.
Is TAC taking over bosk1's posts? :lol
I saw that! :lol
I vote:
UFO-No Heavy Petting
Rush-2112
Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
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Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
I agree.
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https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=52155.msg2418833#msg2418833
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Yes, thank you Kev. I was going to say that we just did this.
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where's Songs in the Key of Life? That and Jailbreak
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From the albums on the list:
Camel - Moonmadness
Frank Zappa - Zoot Allures
Not on the list:
VDGG - Still Life
Tom Waits - Small Change
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Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
I agree.
Well, Tarot Woman is a classic Rainbow song, and Run with the Wolf is an overlooked little gem. The other two are kinda meh, but every Rainbow album, with or without Dio, had at least a couple of meh song.
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None. Not a very good year in music.
You’re right, it wasn’t a very good year for music, it was a GREAT year for music.
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Rush - 2112
Queen - A day at the races
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Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
I agree.
Well, Tarot Woman is a classic Rainbow song, and Run with the Wolf is an overlooked little gem. The other two are kinda meh, but every Rainbow album, with or without Dio, had at least a couple of meh song.
About a third of the first album is "meh", and one or two songs on LLRnR are meh ("LA Connection" blows, in my opinion) but I don't get the dislike for Side One of Rising. Starstruck is a little corny, but the riff is cool, and the rest? I think it works. It pales in comparison to Side Two, but most rock does.
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+1 to Stadler's post, Rising f&*%ing rocks. :2metal:
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2112 and other being AC/DC - High Voltage
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Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
I agree.
Well, Tarot Woman is a classic Rainbow song, and Run with the Wolf is an overlooked little gem. The other two are kinda meh, but every Rainbow album, with or without Dio, had at least a couple of meh song.
About a third of the first album is "meh", and one or two songs on LLRnR are meh ("LA Connection" blows, in my opinion) but I don't get the dislike for Side One of Rising. Starstruck is a little corny, but the riff is cool, and the rest? I think it works. It pales in comparison to Side Two, but most rock does.
Tarot Woman and Starstruck are really good songs: 3.5-4/5 stars. Run with the Wolf is fine: 2.5-3/5 stars. Do You Close Your Eyes is BAD, BAD and more BAD (in the mold of "If You Don't Like Rock 'n' Roll"): probably the worst Rainbow song with Dio.
LLRnR is a more even album. The high points aren't quite as high as those on Rising, but the low points aren't nearly as bad as DYCYE. L.A. Connection might be the worst song on LLRnR, but that's a little like saying Vital Signs (or Witch Hunt) is the worst song on Moving Pictures. I still like it.
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Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
I agree.
Well, Tarot Woman is a classic Rainbow song, and Run with the Wolf is an overlooked little gem. The other two are kinda meh, but every Rainbow album, with or without Dio, had at least a couple of meh song.
About a third of the first album is "meh", and one or two songs on LLRnR are meh ("LA Connection" blows, in my opinion) but I don't get the dislike for Side One of Rising. Starstruck is a little corny, but the riff is cool, and the rest? I think it works. It pales in comparison to Side Two, but most rock does.
The funny thing is that Dio thought side one was good, classic Rainbow and side two was all pointless wankery. Go figure.
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Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
I agree.
Well, Tarot Woman is a classic Rainbow song, and Run with the Wolf is an overlooked little gem. The other two are kinda meh, but every Rainbow album, with or without Dio, had at least a couple of meh song.
About a third of the first album is "meh", and one or two songs on LLRnR are meh ("LA Connection" blows, in my opinion) but I don't get the dislike for Side One of Rising. Starstruck is a little corny, but the riff is cool, and the rest? I think it works. It pales in comparison to Side Two, but most rock does.
Tarot Woman and Starstruck are really good songs: 3.5-4/5 stars. Run with the Wolf is fine: 2.5-3/5 stars. Do You Close Your Eyes is BAD, BAD and more BAD (in the mold of "If You Don't Like Rock 'n' Roll"): probably the worst Rainbow song with Dio.
LLRnR is a more even album. The high points aren't quite as high as those on Rising, but the low points aren't nearly as bad as DYCYE. L.A. Connection might be the worst song on LLRnR, but that's a little like saying Vital Signs (or Witch Hunt) is the worst song on Moving Pictures. I still like it.
Well, I think Vital Signs sticks out like a sore thumb and keeps the album from being damn near perfect. :)
I think LA Connection and Black Sheep... fist fight daily for the worst Rainbow (Dio) song ever.
But I understand what you're saying. I think both albums, Rising and LLRnR are still top tier, even with their faults.
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Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
I agree.
Well, Tarot Woman is a classic Rainbow song, and Run with the Wolf is an overlooked little gem. The other two are kinda meh, but every Rainbow album, with or without Dio, had at least a couple of meh song.
About a third of the first album is "meh", and one or two songs on LLRnR are meh ("LA Connection" blows, in my opinion) but I don't get the dislike for Side One of Rising. Starstruck is a little corny, but the riff is cool, and the rest? I think it works. It pales in comparison to Side Two, but most rock does.
The funny thing is that Dio thought side one was good, classic Rainbow and side two was all pointless wankery. Go figure.
What the hell does HE know??? :) :) :) :) :)
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Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
I agree.
I know I may not be rational when talking about Ritchie/Purple/Rainbow, but I am afraid ...
Ok, I may be hardly rational at all, but (my point was) I am afraid Rising side A's generally perceived lacklustre impact is an unlucky function of side B's inhuman rock perfection.
The waitress fixing my lunch every day is very attractive, but I would tend to forget her if joined to the hip with Raquel Welch.
Thinking about it, I could even forget I'm having lunch in the presence of siamese twins.
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Ok, I may be hardly rational at all, but (my point was) I am afraid Rising side A's generally perceived lacklustre impact is an unlucky function of side B's inhuman rock perfection.
No it isn't.
Less attractive than Raquel Welch doesn't mean you're ugly. Ugly means you're ugly.
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I'm not ugly. I'm funny faced.
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I'm not ugly. I'm funny faced.
Actually Starstruck, while certainly less attractive, is not ugly.
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I think LA Connection and Black Sheep... fist fight daily for the worst Rainbow (Dio) song ever.
But I understand what you're saying. I think both albums, Rising and LLRnR are still top tier, even with their faults.
I like Black Sheep. I love how Dio sounds on that first album. So folksy, which is a nice contrast to Metal Dio.
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See, with Dio and Blackmore, I kind of gravitate to the epic. I get tingles every time I hear "Look! There! On the horizon!!!!" then to hear him singing about "double indemnity", I don't know...
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Oh, totally. Stargazer is Rainbow's tour de force no doubt. But I have a soft spot for the first album.
Rock and Roll Over - Kiss
Because of this post, I busted this out for my ride to work today.
Ace Frehley reminded me of an untalented Michael Schenker. His sense of melody in his solos was fantastic.
As big as KISS is, I still feel like Paul Stanley doesn't get his due when great rock vocalist lists are being put together.
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Paul Stanley's voice is one of a kind and iconic.
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Oh, as much as I think Baby Driver is a queer name, I think the song is excellent. Love Ace's lead playing throughout the entire track. I think it's the most underrated track of the first six albums.
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Paul Stanley's voice is one of a kind and iconic.
There's a CD in some versions of their album Sonic Boom - not the most recent, but the one before - that has about 12 or 15 re-recordings of classic material, and I defy people to tell the difference between the original and the redo based on his voice alone. Up until the last tour or so (where he's not what he once was) there was very very little drop off. And live? He gives 100% every show I've seen him.
He's not in my top five list of pure singers (I lean to guys like Mercury, Bono, Sting, Elton John, Paul Rodgers, who all have a sort of similar, smooth, almost operatic voices), but he is in my list of top five frontmen of all time, easily.
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Ace Frehley reminded me of an untalented Michael Schenker.
Haha, that made me chuckle.
By the way, you're a big Schenker fan; if you haven't already, check out the "Walk On Water" CD, the first of his reunion with UFO. They re-recorded "Lights Out" and "Doctor Doctor", and the solo in the re-recording of "Lights Out" (I think it's Lights Out) is just JAW DROPPING.
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See, with Dio and Blackmore, I kind of gravitate to the epic. I get tingles every time I hear "Look! There! On the horizon!!!!"
Now look, look, look, look, look to this tower of stone...
*shivers already incoming*
I see a rainbow rising!!!!
*shivers all over, imaginary horns raised in the air in salute*
:metal
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Paul Stanley's voice is one of a kind and iconic.
There's a CD in some versions of their album Sonic Boom - not the most recent, but the one before - that has about 12 or 15 re-recordings of classic material, and I defy people to tell the difference between the original and the redo based on his voice alone. Up until the last tour or so (where he's not what he once was) there was very very little drop off. And live? He gives 100% every show I've seen him.
He's not in my top five list of pure singers (I lean to guys like Mercury, Bono, Sting, Elton John, Paul Rodgers, who all have a sort of similar, smooth, almost operatic voices), but he is in my list of top five frontmen of all time, easily.
Oh, I own it.
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See, with Dio and Blackmore, I kind of gravitate to the epic. I get tingles every time I hear "Look! There! On the horizon!!!!"
Now look, look, look, look, look to this tower of stone...
This sort of vamping is, for me, Dio's trademark, and the funny think is that I would have quoted these lines differently (i.e., I hear slightly different words that you guys mentioned).
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Ace Frehley reminded me of an untalented Michael Schenker.
Haha, that made me chuckle.
By the way, you're a big Schenker fan; if you haven't already, check out the "Walk On Water" CD, the first of his reunion with UFO. They re-recorded "Lights Out" and "Doctor Doctor", and the solo in the re-recording of "Lights Out" (I think it's Lights Out) is just JAW DROPPING.
Yeah, TAC you should really hear Walk On Water. Hurry, go out and get it! :biggrin:
The solo(s) on the original recording of Lights Out are already :jawdrop: I don't think the re-do really improves on it.
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Ace Frehley reminded me of an untalented Michael Schenker.
Haha, that made me chuckle.
By the way, you're a big Schenker fan; if you haven't already, check out the "Walk On Water" CD, the first of his reunion with UFO. They re-recorded "Lights Out" and "Doctor Doctor", and the solo in the re-recording of "Lights Out" (I think it's Lights Out) is just JAW DROPPING.
Yeah, TAC you should really hear Walk On Water. Hurry, go out and get it! :biggrin:
The solo(s) on the original recording of Lights Out are already :jawdrop: I don't think the re-do really improves on it.
Was it that stupid a question? I know I had a hard time finding a copy for anything under like $15.00 plus shipping, which to me is an insane amount to pay for a single CD.
I just know I was listening in the house on my home stereo and it literally made me turn my head to listen.
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See, with Dio and Blackmore, I kind of gravitate to the epic. I get tingles every time I hear "Look! There! On the horizon!!!!"
Now look, look, look, look, look to this tower of stone...
This sort of vamping is, for me, Dio's trademark, and the funny think is that I would have quoted these lines differently (i.e., I hear slightly different words that you guys mentioned).
The Last In Line is my favorite example of that.
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Ace Frehley reminded me of an untalented Michael Schenker.
Haha, that made me chuckle.
By the way, you're a big Schenker fan; if you haven't already, check out the "Walk On Water" CD, the first of his reunion with UFO. They re-recorded "Lights Out" and "Doctor Doctor", and the solo in the re-recording of "Lights Out" (I think it's Lights Out) is just JAW DROPPING.
Yeah, TAC you should really hear Walk On Water. Hurry, go out and get it! :biggrin:
The solo(s) on the original recording of Lights Out are already I don't think the re-do really improves on it.
Was it that stupid a question? I know I had a hard time finding a copy for anything under like $15.00 plus shipping, which to me is an insane amount to pay for a single CD.
No it's not a stupid question. Well, it is.. ;D
Podaar is just busting your chops because he knows that asking me if I've ever heard of Walk On Water is akin to me asking you if you've ever heard of KISS' Revenge. ;D
I bought the Japanese import a year before it saw a US shelf record store shelf. I hardly ever listen to the redone tracks tbh.
Walk On Water came in at 21 in The TAC Top 50.
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it's a great album, in my opinion.
"A Self-Made Man" and "Dreaming Of Summer" are as good as anything in the catalogue, in my humble opinion.
I've always been a Schenker fan - I love those first four MSG albums - but my appreciation for him has really blossomed in the last couple years. He's a troubled dude, no doubt, but he really deserves to be mentioned in and among the greats. I mean at the "Page/Clapton/Blackmore/Hendrix/Gilmour" level. If only he had a "Plant"/"Gillan", or a truly transcendent song ala Stairway or Comfortably Numb, and he'd be right there.
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I've always been a Schenker fan - I love those first four MSG albums - but my appreciation for him has really blossomed in the last couple years. He's a troubled dude, no doubt, but he really deserves to be mentioned in and among the greats. I mean at the "Page/Clapton/Blackmore/Hendrix/Gilmour" level. If only he had a "Plant"/"Gillan", or a truly transcendent song ala Stairway or Comfortably Numb, and he'd be right there.
Well, he had a Dickinson and a Hallowed Be Thy Name by proxy.
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"A Self-Made Man" and "Dreaming Of Summer" are as good as anything in the catalogue, in my humble opinion.
I totally agree. Dreaming Of Summer is easily a TAC Top 10 UFO song. EASILY. Phil Mogg at his absolute best.
I've always been a Schenker fan - I love those first four MSG albums - but my appreciation for him has really blossomed in the last couple years. He's a troubled dude, no doubt, but he really deserves to be mentioned in and among the greats. I mean at the "Page/Clapton/Blackmore/Hendrix/Gilmour" level. If only he had a "Plant"/"Gillan", or a truly transcendent song ala Stairway or Comfortably Numb, and he'd be right there.
Definitely. I totally agree. He and Gary Moore are my all time favorite guitarists. I'm no expert, but I've been listening to music for a long time and no one does to me what he does.
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I've always been a Schenker fan - I love those first four MSG albums - but my appreciation for him has really blossomed in the last couple years. He's a troubled dude, no doubt, but he really deserves to be mentioned in and among the greats. I mean at the "Page/Clapton/Blackmore/Hendrix/Gilmour" level. If only he had a "Plant"/"Gillan", or a truly transcendent song ala Stairway or Comfortably Numb, and he'd be right there.
Well, he had a Dickinson and a Hallowed Be Thy Name by proxy.
:huh:
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Nevermind, usual nonsense of mine based on early Adrian's very Schenker oriented playing.
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Nevermind, usual nonsense of mine based on early Adrian's very Schenker oriented playing.
I had never made that connection.
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Yup, I should really keep the campy stuff inside the SFmM Reservation Thread's safe boundaries.
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Presence & 2112, definitely!
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Nevermind, usual nonsense of mine based on early Adrian's very Schenker oriented playing.
I had never made that connection.
Yeah, neither did I. I always assumed the main influence was Thin Lizzy. Maybe some Deep Purple and Wishbone Ash (who was closely associated with Deep Purple, an influence on Murray and Harris).
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Nevermind, usual nonsense of mine based on early Adrian's very Schenker oriented playing.
I had never made that connection.
Yeah, neither did I. I always assumed the main influence was Thin Lizzy. Maybe some Deep Purple and Wishbone Ash (who was closely associated with Deep Purple, an influence on Murray and Harris).
Main influences are undoubtedly those you list.
Digging further, I always end up hearing a shyer Schenker in Adrian (and, out of topic, a shyer Gary Moore in Dave). Thinking about it, even pre-Adrian Maiden feature a lot of Schenker mannerism. Maybe it's just me, but isn't Phantom of the Opera's chorus an almost perfect paraphrase of Doctor Doctor "Living, Loving" bit?
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Honestly, I never know how to rate Rising. The second half is so amazing, yet the first side is so forgettable.
I agree.
Whaaat????
Rising is all awesome :hefdaddy
Voted Rising and 2112, but Hotel California, Leftoverture and Destroyer are all great.
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Nevermind, usual nonsense of mine based on early Adrian's very Schenker oriented playing.
I had never made that connection.
Yeah, neither did I. I always assumed the main influence was Thin Lizzy. Maybe some Deep Purple and Wishbone Ash (who was closely associated with Deep Purple, an influence on Murray and Harris).
Main influences are undoubtedly those you list.
Digging further, I always end up hearing a shyer Schenker in Adrian (and, out of topic, a shyer Gary Moore in Dave). Thinking about it, even pre-Adrian Maiden feature a lot of Schenker mannerism. Maybe it's just me, but isn't Phantom of the Opera's chorus an almost perfect paraphrase of Doctor Doctor "Living, Loving" bit?
Don't confuse "Maiden" and/or "Harris" with "Murray" and/or "Smith". Steve Harris is a MASSIVE UFO fan. We can spend the rest of the day talking about the influence on Harris. Start with the pants. :). For as long as I can remember, the last song before the band takes the stage is "Doctor Doctor". There's more Schenker in Murray's playing than Smith, IMO, but Murray is a Hendrix/Paul Kossoff (Free, with Paul Rogers) guy first and foremost.
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You had me at pants.
Love the Kossoff call and I raise you - but it's just my ear - Martin Barre for Adrian.
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For as long as I can remember, the last song before the band takes the stage is "Doctor Doctor".
*Maiden nerd to the rescue*
It started in the 2003 summer tour and has been a tradition ever since.
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Other and other
City Boy - City Boy
Van der Graf Generator - Still Life
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Went with Rush and Boston
2112 is 2112, just the 1st side stands up against most other albums. The 1st Boston album is such a Classic album, so many great songs, Peace of Mind is my favorite Boston song.
Close after that is Priest, Rainbow, Kansas, Thin Lizzy and The Eagles
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A Trick Of The Tail, without a doubt.
Not on the list - Wind And Wurthering
Nothing beat Genesis in 1976 ;D
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Rocks and 2112