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Either you’re not great dealing with contrary opinions to yours (the MM and his playing style “debates” we’ve had as of recent come to mind) or you just like to be childish in your ways of receiving and responding to such opinions. Take it easy, dude. It’s an internet forum.
Octavarium was 24 minutes.
In The Presence of Enemies is 25 minutes
Count of Tuscany is JUST shy of 20 minutes
Illumination theory is 22 minutes
So i'm not sure what YOUR point is... "LOL"
I'm saying I'm glad they mostly ditched the long songs around the 20 minute mark as the 8 - 9 track albums with a huge song at the end template was getting tired.
And that Illumination theory in particular sounded like idea soup with no flow and just riff after riff after riff to pad it out to over 20 mins.
And it even had a reprise of the ambient section from Count Of Tuscany. Although the string section was great - the song didn't need to be 22 minutes long.