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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: tjanuranus on July 12, 2011, 12:42:30 PM
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Netflix Announces New Pricing, Subscribers Who Want DVD & Streaming Face 60% Increase
https://www.slashfilm.com/netflix-announces-pricing-subscribers-dvd-streaming-face-60-increase/
The free ride had to end sooner or later. Looks like it is sooner. For the past seven months, even after a price increase, Netflix has been the best deal in movies for US subscribers, as a monthly subscription priced at $9.99 allowed customers to have one DVD out at a time and watch unlimited streaming content at the same time. That wasn’t free, exactly, but it was a pretty damn cheap way to consume a great many movies every month.
That is changing slightly. The company today announced new pricing that will split DVD and streaming subscriptions into separate tiers. The cheapest plans will be $7.99 for unlimited streaming each month (remaining the same after the last pricing changes), and $7.99 for a new plan offering only DVDs, with one out at a time. So instead of paying $9.99 for both, you’ll now pay $15.98.
For new members, this pricing takes effect immediately. For existing subscribers, the changes go into effect “on or after September 1, 2011.”
The news comes from the official Netflix blog, which spins the price change as being the ‘lowest ever’ for unlimited DVDs. And that’s true. If you have no interest in streaming, or no interest in delivery of physical media, this won’t be a big deal. And, frankly, if you have interest in both, there’s no argument in which sixteen bucks a month is an unreasonable price to pay for the content available on Netflix. But if you want a lot more DVDs delivered per month, your prices will be escalating. And how much will a blu-ray plan be? That’s data we don’t have now.
(Netflix was down for maintenance at press time, so I couldn’t make a new subscription to check. The blu-ray surchage that applies to current plans may not be changing.)
After Netflix seemed to really de-emphasize physical media in the past year, this stands as a definite change of plan (ahem) as explained in the blog entry:
Reflecting our confidence that DVDs by mail is a long-term business for us, we are also establishing a separate and distinct management team solely focused on DVDs by mail, led by Andy Rendich, our Chief Service and Operations Officer and an 11 year veteran of Netflix.
There are many possible reasons for these changes, but in the end what will matter is what effect this has on the overall catalog(s) available via Netflix.
Given the company’s dominance of the DVD delivery and streaming marketplace, I can’t pretend to be surprised by these changes. A price hike was basically inevitable. Now we’ll see what it does to the Netflix stock price at the end of the day today, and the company’s customer base over time. So will the new prices change your interest in Netflix? Will you desert for other options?
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this may cause me to cancel my dvd plan. I just wish they would get on the ball with the streaming service. It's not that great at the moment and with the stock price going up and up the company is doing well!
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Free Market Fail.
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This doesn't look like it affects me at all. I only use Netflix for its instant streaming. If a movie I want to watch isn't available to stream, well, tough shit for me. I don't care enough to go through the hassle of getting it in the mail.
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My family had the one dvd + streaming plan. But over the past 6 months or so, we've essentially neglected the dvd part. So chances are we'll just cancel that and stick to streaming.
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this may cause me to cancel my dvd plan. I just wish they would get on the ball with the streaming service. It's not that great at the moment and with the stock price going up and up the company is doing well!
On the ball? They have to negotiate when they can release things to streaming. The studios haven't embraced streaming so want limits on how much is available at any time and how quickly things can go that route.
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what i mean is if they want their service to survive they have to pay up. Right now the streaming is pretty pathetic. I use it for Tv shows more than movies because the movie selection is very poor. Now there is a lot more competition and there is more coming. Pay the big bucks and make the best service out there. I would happily pay 20 bucks a month for streaming if they have something close to there dvd catalog available for streaming. And everyone i've talked to personally feels the same way. I would imagine a lot of people would pay a lot more if the service was better.
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I find that the selection of streaming stuff is mostly crap in my opinion. Having both for 9.99 made it worthwhile. I will not pay for both at 15.98. That's ridiculous. I also don't want to pay 7.99 for one at a time by mail but I'll consider it cause its convenient.
I may just ditch Netflix at this point. This is happening at a time when Blockbuster just made all there movies .99 a night.
I may use Blockbuster or Redbox if I really want a movie. I can certainly learn to live without Netflix if need be.
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Yeah, they're trying to work through a pretty complex business model. Aside from Hollywood dictating what can/can't be streamed, I imagine people are also running into Comcast related problems as well. The physical disk model was fairly straight forward since movie rental is old hat. My guess is that they're prefer to unload that aspect of it (postage was really hurting them in many cases).
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my kids stream movies all day long as well as I partaking in the 3 movies at a time option (Blu-ray) it currently costs me approx $35 a month which I feel is still a good bargin. Concidering when I take my kids to the movies between tickets and concession I drop $75 easily
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Sucks I'll have to pay a whole 6 bucks or whatever more a month, but such is life. It's better than cable or blockbuster or redbox where I have to have one near me in order to return it the very next day.
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Given that when Netflix current streaming contracts are up they can expect huge increases in the costs of their next contracts, it was inevitable that they need to start passing on that cost sooner rather than later.
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This doesn't look like it affects me at all. I only use Netflix for its instant streaming. If a movie I want to watch isn't available to stream, well, tough shit for me. I don't care enough to go through the hassle of getting it in the mail.
that's asinine
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I just got the notification in my email about the increase in cost. Even though it is $6, I don't think the streaming is to a level where I will justify the cost for it. I'll probably just keep the DVD one at a time feature and drop streaming.
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My family had the one dvd + streaming plan. But over the past 6 months or so, we've essentially neglected the dvd part. So chances are we'll just cancel that and stick to streaming.
this
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I only paid for the streaming stuff (where they have a lot of classic movies I haven't seen before as well as a selection of great TV shows) so this doesn't affect me at all. If I did choose to get DVDs as well, a total of $15 doesn't seem all that bad. They're still the best option for streaming and video rental, IMO.
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bandwidth, bandwidth, bandwidth.
The end is near people.
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This doesn't look like it affects me at all. I only use Netflix for its instant streaming. If a movie I want to watch isn't available to stream, well, tough shit for me. I don't care enough to go through the hassle of getting it in the mail.
Yep, my sentiments exactly.
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I tried out netflix with their free one month trial, I cancelled my subscription a week before that ended. I wasn't too impressed with the quality and the selection of their streaming movies and tv shows.
I don't think I watch enough movies and shows a month to justify paying 9 or 15 bucks
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This doesn't look like it affects me at all. I only use Netflix for its instant streaming. If a movie I want to watch isn't available to stream, well, tough shit for me. I don't care enough to go through the hassle of getting it in the mail.
that's asinine
how so?
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This doesn't look like it affects me at all. I only use Netflix for its instant streaming. If a movie I want to watch isn't available to stream, well, tough shit for me. I don't care enough to go through the hassle of getting it in the mail.
that's asinine
how so?
uhh, shackleford
the names russssty shackleford
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I just have the streaming, so I'm not too worried, although they need to upload some more shit.
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Sucks I'll have to pay a whole 6 bucks or whatever more a month, but such is life. It's better than cable or blockbuster or redbox where I have to have one near me in order to return it the very next day.
Nearly doubling the price of something is weak. I can use Redbox from the Stop and Shop down the street and pay a 1.50 for a movie. I pay enough for cable. Maybe its time to take advantage of Starz and HBO channels a little more then I have been.
In the end people will ultimately choose if they want to go forward. The more I ponder it the more I think Netflix is done for me come September. Half the time I wait literally months for the new releases at the top of my queue. Its actually quite ridiculous how long I have waited for some movies.
Perhaps I should be happy Netflix is making a decision I have pondered for awhile now considerably easier.
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Netflix is better on its TV selection than movie selection from my experience.
New DVD's cost what, $15 or $20 these days to buy? Paying $15/mo. is still a great deal in the long run. I am staying.
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Netflix is better on its TV selection than movie selection from my experience.
New DVD's cost what, $15 or $20 these days to buy? Paying $15/mo. is still a great deal in the long run. I am staying.
Renting a DVD at Blockbuster is a dollar. Redbox is a dollar fifty.
Why would you have to buy the movies if you didn't use Netflix? That makes little sense to me?
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That's how I compare it, I don't care for BB or RB.
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That's how I compare it, I don't care for BB or RB.
Then rent the movies on demand for 5 bucks and its still cheaper then buying your movies. That's all I'm saying. Your comparing owning the movies outright, to Netflix where your renting them and giving them back. Its not a good comparison when discussing prices?
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Thing is, I love Netflix. And I don't want more than one service to use to freaking watch movies. I'm not that picky.
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Sucks I'll have to pay a whole 6 bucks or whatever more a month, but such is life. It's better than cable or blockbuster or redbox where I have to have one near me in order to return it the very next day.
Nearly doubling the price of something is weak. I can use Redbox from the Stop and Shop down the street and pay a 1.50 for a movie. I pay enough for cable. Maybe its time to take advantage of Starz and HBO channels a little more then I have been.
In the end people will ultimately choose if they want to go forward. The more I ponder it the more I think Netflix is done for me come September. Half the time I wait literally months for the new releases at the top of my queue. Its actually quite ridiculous how long I have waited for some movies.
Perhaps I should be happy Netflix is making a decision I have pondered for awhile now considerably easier.
Ah see that's the difference. I don't have cable, so as of now I'm paying 7.99 or whatever for the 1 dvd and streaming as that is my only source of watching things I don't own. There isn't a blockbuster anywhere near me, nor is there a redbox anywhere near me. It would be a major hassle to travel all the way down to one the day after I rent something. So 16 bucks or whatever a month for endless streaming as many DVDs per month as I want (provided it's one at a time) is fine to me.
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So basically, for the same price I'm paying now to get two DVD's at a time per month, I can get only one?
Idiots.
EDIT: Or not, since there's no other real option I guess Netflix can give me less for the same price. Oh joy.
Seriously, why are companies like Zappos that go out of their way to do the right thing for their customers so rare? Now that Netflix is swimming in money, they're doing everything they can to treat their customers worse because, even though they won't admit it, their actions clearly indicate that they want to get out of mailing DVD's.
Oh, because someone will be curious about it, Zappos made a billion dollars in revenue in 2009.
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Yeah but it's 16 for 1 movie at a time I'm on the three at a time plan. Going to be expensive. I wish the streaming service was up to par.
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Yeah but it's 16 for 1 movie at a time I'm on the three at a time plan. Going to be expensive. I wish the streaming service was up to par.
See, that's the problem. Netflix is too far ahead. Streaming hasn't become "mainstream" yet, and the movie companies still don't seem to have much faith in it. To some extent, I think Netflix is trying to push along the adoption of streaming by making DVD's less convenient, but consumers tend to not like that. This attitude is also reflected in Netflix funding the Fincher produced show for way more money than is practical. There's a reason being ahead of your time is called being ahead of your time. People are ready for certain things when they are and not before. The world isn't quite as ready for streaming as Netflix seems to think, and I'd hope they don't go overboard with it.
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Streaming has almost rendered DVDs obsolete for me.
I currently have DVDs delivered, but I'll just cancel that. I'll end up paying less per month as a result.
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Free Market Fail.
:loser:
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Free Market Fail.
:loser:
I figured that would get yours or WW's attention. ;D
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Streaming has almost rendered DVDs obsolete for me.
I currently have DVDs delivered, but I'll just cancel that. I'll end up paying less per month as a result.
Very limited selection. Too bad the streaming movies are not the new releases. That's what I want. Not most of the worthless titles you can stream. If they make it so you can stream all the movies then it would be well worth the 16 bucks.
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Worthless? I've found movies streaming that I wouldn't even be able to buy easily in stores.
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this would be cool if the movies they had for streaming were not so
uh
"b"
and i think it's funny how they're telling you that charging $15 instead of $10 is "lowering prices"
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My boyfriend (who lives with me) and I both have separate accounts. This just solidified us combining into one account and most likely getting rid of the DVD option.
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this would be cool if the movies they had for streaming were not so
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"b"
and i think it's funny how they're telling you that charging $15 instead of $10 is "lowering prices"
You say that like b-movies are bad.
See also: I love Bruce Campbell.
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There's lots of awesome movies to be streamed, but more so than that.....there's lots of awesome TV shows. I watched the entire 11 seasons of cheers thanks to netflix streaming.
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Were it not for Netflix, it would be so much harder for me to get into Doctor Who.
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Well I currently stream and get one DVD/blu-ray at a time... Looks like I need to finish up streaming battlestar galactica as that's pretty much the only thing I stream. I can live with one disc at a time and have a better choice.
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It's not my money but i've been thinking about this lately. Since apple is a big time media service with itunes and the apple Tv and they have almost 80 BILLION in cash and netflix seems to have a hard time paying the big movie companies Apple should just buy netflix and incorporate the streaming. They have relationships with all the major companies and they have the money to make the deals. That would be so SICK. With the combination of the itunes store and a streaming service that had deals with Major movie companies it would be kick ass.
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tj
I had feeling you were gonna say someting like that :lol
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tj
I had feeling you were gonna say someting like that :lol
i mean you could say it about a lot of companies but i think this makes a lot of sense.
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If Apple bought Netflix I'd cancel my account faster than Steve Jobs could lose ten pounds.
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so if they bought it and greatly improved the service you would cancel... that makes NO sense.
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so if they bought it and greatly improved the service you would cancel... that makes NO sense.
For starters, I doubt they would "improve" the service. They'd throw in a few thousand more titles and charge me 99 cents every time I wanted to watch one.
I added a gift card to my iTunes account a while back. Apparently, my (and an estimated 50,000 others) account was hacked. Some tool decided to use my money to buy a bunch of worthless apps nobody had ever heard of. I immediately reported the problem to Apple (along with thousands of others) and I was told the same thing as everyone else: that I was SOL and should just change my password.
If they have "80 billion in cash" they could easily have credited my account and won me over. But no. Those penny-pinching bastards employed a shoddy security system and it ended up costing ME money.
Haven't used a single Apple product since.
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well I can't speak on that because that never happened to me. I'm sorry it happened to you, it seems odd they wouldn't do anything to help you out. I had a computer i was having some issues with and they gave me a brand new one which was a model two years newer than the one i had. A 2000 dollar laptop, so that was a good story. But hey everyone has different experiences and i don't blame you for not wanting to deal with them.
On another note do you really think they would acquire netflix to charge 99 cents per rental? They already have a HUGE rental service with tons of movies. But imagine being able to bring all the major movie companies on board to stream instantly for a monthly fee, with new releases and everything. They have the power and money to do it.
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I'm going to post in the Apple thread so this one can stay on Netflix discussion.
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Worthless? I've found movies streaming that I wouldn't even be able to buy easily in stores.
Yeah, because who would buy the movies they give you to stream? Not many.
Its a pretty certain thing that Netflix will be all streaming within the next few years. Its obvious with that technology they won't be mailing movies forever.
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Well...I will post this, as I personally believe Netflix is the beginning and the end of the internet.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/tech-news/bce-put-on-hot-seat-at-hearing-on-web-pricing/article2093320/
In Canada anyhow.
There are only about 36 million of us, but we're currently IN the curve (you can argue wether we're ahead or behind the curve) but essentially Netflix is causing people to go massively over the caps in their internet plans, if they go with small independent ISP's they don't get torched too bad...if they're with one of the big companies they DO get torched. Of course Netflix leaves out the tiny details that streaming a 700K movie or a 8 gig blueray version is going to ass rape your monthly usage levels. For example:I'm with a small ISP that whole sales off Bell's equipment. My plan is grandfathered too so no data cap. I appreciate that, as it allows me to download 112 gig worth of Pokemon cartoons in 4 days...when in fact my plan has a 40 gig/month cap.
You american's enjoy pretty much "free" internet by comparison. I wonder if we'll ever get to where you are or if it will be vice versa and you end up like Canada. Im guessing the latter, if Verizon's canceling of the "unlimited plans" on their iPhones is any indication. Bandwidth costs. ALOT. the article I posted shows that data transfer charges are coming down, and I can't say that I agree.
On topic. I don't have Netflix. Never have. I usually download my stuff from other sources. However my son HAD to watch a James Bond movie last night, so we went to blockbuster to rent it. Die Another Day/4.99$ for a week. Eeek.....
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It's not my money but i've been thinking about this lately. Since apple is a big time media service with itunes and the apple Tv and they have almost 80 BILLION in cash and netflix seems to have a hard time paying the big movie companies Apple should just buy netflix and incorporate the streaming. They have relationships with all the major companies and they have the money to make the deals. That would be so SICK. With the combination of the itunes store and a streaming service that had deals with Major movie companies it would be kick ass.
Translation: Apple should buy Netflix so AppleTV can actually work.
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Well...I will post this, as I personally believe Netflix is the beginning and the end of the internet.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/tech-news/bce-put-on-hot-seat-at-hearing-on-web-pricing/article2093320/
In Canada anyhow.
There are only about 36 million of us, but we're currently IN the curve (you can argue wether we're ahead or behind the curve) but essentially Netflix is causing people to go massively over the caps in their internet plans, if they go with small independent ISP's they don't get torched too bad...if they're with one of the big companies they DO get torched. Of course Netflix leaves out the tiny details that streaming a 700K movie or a 8 gig blueray version is going to ass rape your monthly usage levels. For example:I'm with a small ISP that whole sales off Bell's equipment. My plan is grandfathered too so no data cap. I appreciate that, as it allows me to download 112 gig worth of Pokemon cartoons in 4 days...when in fact my plan has a 40 gig/month cap.
You american's enjoy pretty much "free" internet by comparison. I wonder if we'll ever get to where you are or if it will be vice versa and you end up like Canada. Im guessing the latter, if Verizon's canceling of the "unlimited plans" on their iPhones is any indication. Bandwidth costs. ALOT. the article I posted shows that data transfer charges are coming down, and I can't say that I agree.
On topic. I don't have Netflix. Never have. I usually download my stuff from other sources. However my son HAD to watch a James Bond movie last night, so we went to blockbuster to rent it. Die Another Day/4.99$ for a week. Eeek.....
Well hopefully the openmedia movement will make an impact and the CRTC will do something about the absurd usage limits Bell/Rogers/Telus/Videotron etc are imposing on us... If only we had not voted in a conservative majority, every other party promised to do something about it...
If you want more info check out www.openmedia.ca
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Sucks I'll have to pay a whole 6 bucks or whatever more a month, but such is life. It's better than cable or blockbuster or redbox where I have to have one near me in order to return it the very next day.
Nearly doubling the price of something is weak. I can use Redbox from the Stop and Shop down the street and pay a 1.50 for a movie. I pay enough for cable. Maybe its time to take advantage of Starz and HBO channels a little more then I have been.
In the end people will ultimately choose if they want to go forward. The more I ponder it the more I think Netflix is done for me come September. Half the time I wait literally months for the new releases at the top of my queue. Its actually quite ridiculous how long I have waited for some movies.
Perhaps I should be happy Netflix is making a decision I have pondered for awhile now considerably easier.
Tick I had this problem as well with the newer releases until I started adding them to my queue while they were still in their theatrical release now the queue right to the top of my list when released on DVD/Bluray and I usually have them the first week of release
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Everyone talking about Netflix streaming's "bad selection" needs to look at all the great TV shows available (all of Star Trek, Doctor Who, Party Down, etc.), all the classics (Full Metal Jacket, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp Fiction), Starz Play (which has a lot of newer movies available for streaming and keeps them there for a very long time), and the selection of documentaries (if you're ever in the mood for one). They only don't have the latest summer blockbuster on streaming because Hollywood says no. If there's a movie I want to see that isn't on streaming, chances are it won't be in redbox either, and I don't want to have to get a blockbuster membership (or find a blockbuster since they're all closing now) to rent an even worse selection of movies. So, like Gadough and LHK said, tough shit for me. I can deal with it. :P $8 a month to watch an (eventually) combined 24 seasons of Star Trek (not Enterprise) whenever I want is a pretty rad deal.
So yeah, Netflix streaming is awesome.
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Sucks I'll have to pay a whole 6 bucks or whatever more a month, but such is life. It's better than cable or blockbuster or redbox where I have to have one near me in order to return it the very next day.
Nearly doubling the price of something is weak. I can use Redbox from the Stop and Shop down the street and pay a 1.50 for a movie. I pay enough for cable. Maybe its time to take advantage of Starz and HBO channels a little more then I have been.
In the end people will ultimately choose if they want to go forward. The more I ponder it the more I think Netflix is done for me come September. Half the time I wait literally months for the new releases at the top of my queue. Its actually quite ridiculous how long I have waited for some movies.
Perhaps I should be happy Netflix is making a decision I have pondered for awhile now considerably easier.
Tick I had this problem as well with the newer releases until I started adding them to my queue while they were still in their theatrical release now the queue right to the top of my list when released on DVD/Bluray and I usually have them the first week of release
I have to use strategy to get new releases when they first come out. If I hold my current movie and send it back on a Saturday, Netflix will get in on Monday and send me the release I want at the top that is coming out that Tuesday. If I don't do this the movie I want goes into, "very long wait", sometimes for over 3 months, and I'm not kidding.
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Sucks I'll have to pay a whole 6 bucks or whatever more a month, but such is life. It's better than cable or blockbuster or redbox where I have to have one near me in order to return it the very next day.
Nearly doubling the price of something is weak. I can use Redbox from the Stop and Shop down the street and pay a 1.50 for a movie. I pay enough for cable. Maybe its time to take advantage of Starz and HBO channels a little more then I have been.
In the end people will ultimately choose if they want to go forward. The more I ponder it the more I think Netflix is done for me come September. Half the time I wait literally months for the new releases at the top of my queue. Its actually quite ridiculous how long I have waited for some movies.
Perhaps I should be happy Netflix is making a decision I have pondered for awhile now considerably easier.
Tick I had this problem as well with the newer releases until I started adding them to my queue while they were still in their theatrical release now the queue right to the top of my list when released on DVD/Bluray and I usually have them the first week of release
I have to use strategy to get new releases when they first come out. If I hold my current movie and send it back on a Saturday, Netflix will get in on Monday and send me the release I want at the top that is coming out that Tuesday. If I don't do this the movie I want goes into, "very long wait", sometimes for over 3 months, and I'm not kidding.
That may be due to the number of shipping centers in your region I know that I have at least 5 within 50 ,iles and when one doesn't have it i usually get an e-mail saying its shipping from one of the other centers
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this would be cool if the movies they had for streaming were not so
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"b"
and i think it's funny how they're telling you that charging $15 instead of $10 is "lowering prices"
You mean like:
Taxi Driver
The Exorcist
Various Star Trek films (II, III, IV, VI, XI)
Various Akira Kurosawa films (The Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, Rashomon, etc.)
Countless Film Noir classics (The Stranger, The Woman in the Window, M, Scarlet Street)
House of the Devil
Brothers
Presumed Innocent
Dirty Harry
Wall-E
Dial M for Murder
Pulp Fiction
Die-Hard
Red Dragon
Silence of the Lambs
Shutter Island
Kairo
The Never Ending Story
The Princess and the Frog
Let the Right One In
Witness for the Prosecution
Superman
Amadeus
Toy Story 3
Really, all of these movies have, over the past year (as long as I've owned Netflix) been available streaming. That's just what I could think up off the top of my head. Not to mention Netflix has allowed me to watch The Office, Eden of the East, Fullmetal Alchemist, Death Note, and several episodes of Star Trek: TNG for the very first time. These aren't B-movies or second-class shows. This is pretty much the best of the best, from silent classics (which admittedly are free anyway) to some of the very latest (Shutter Island, for example).
It's fine if these aren't to your taste, or Netflix doesn't have as wide of a selection as you'd like, but to say streaming offers nothing good is just...well...ignorant of the facts (no offense intended).
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Those are basically more specific examples of my earlier post of why Netflix streaming is great and that anyone who says their selection sucks needs to take another look.
But you forgot to mention Gurren Lagann, Darker Than Black, and Baccano! in your list of anime. :)
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They've also got all of Trigun, which I hadn't seen in ages. Also, Shin-Chan. 'Nuff said.
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I wish we had a decent streaming service for £8 per month D:
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Those are basically more specific examples of my earlier post of why Netflix streaming is great and that anyone who says their selection sucks needs to take another look.
But you forgot to mention Gurren Lagann, Darker Than Black, and Baccano! in your list of anime. :)
Sorry, I didn't see that post. I'll have to check back.
I tried Gurren Lagann and Baccano! but couldn't get into them (I might try again, as I only watched the first episodes of both). Death Note, on the other hand, is one of the best things I've ever seen, and I likely wouldn't have seen it without Netflix. My girlfriend also got to watch all of Fruits Basket, which she was lukewarm about but she's been wanting to watch for awhile. We regularly watch South Park and Nana together, too. We've seen both of those shows before, but they're more convenient on Netflix. Much more.
I forgot to mention the entirety of Avatar: The Last Airbender. Loved every minute of it. My girlfriend and I never watch Nickelodeon so we wouldn't have seen that without Netflix either.
I'll readily admit that Netflix streaming hasn't always had what I was looking for, but I always found something else to watch a minute later. It's still the best investment in entertainment I've ever made.
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It's not my money but i've been thinking about this lately. Since apple is a big time media service with itunes and the apple Tv and they have almost 80 BILLION in cash and netflix seems to have a hard time paying the big movie companies Apple should just buy netflix and incorporate the streaming. They have relationships with all the major companies and they have the money to make the deals. That would be so SICK. With the combination of the itunes store and a streaming service that had deals with Major movie companies it would be kick ass.
Translation: Apple should buy Netflix so AppleTV can actually work.
False I literally use it every day I have two Of them.
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Netflix streaming also has a lot of Carpenter films, so it's approved.
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Worthless? I've found movies streaming that I wouldn't even be able to buy easily in stores.
Yeah, because who would buy the movies they give you to stream? Not many.
Its a pretty certain thing that Netflix will be all streaming within the next few years. Its obvious with that technology they won't be mailing movies forever.
God, I hope so. That would be amazing.
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It's not my money but i've been thinking about this lately. Since apple is a big time media service with itunes and the apple Tv and they have almost 80 BILLION in cash and netflix seems to have a hard time paying the big movie companies Apple should just buy netflix and incorporate the streaming. They have relationships with all the major companies and they have the money to make the deals. That would be so SICK. With the combination of the itunes store and a streaming service that had deals with Major movie companies it would be kick ass.
Translation: Apple should buy Netflix so AppleTV can actually work.
False I literally use it every day I have two Of them.
My apple TV works a good amount of the time, but a lot of the time it can't connect to netflix. It's annoying.
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So basically this is what's happening. (Netflix is coming soon to Latinamerica... we'll see how it goes)
(https://imgur.com/PzBnU.jpg)
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https://www.startribune.com/125555168.html
In the first three months of this year, Netflix spent $192 million on streaming rights after putting $406 million into the library last year. Licensing costs are expected to jump to $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion next year
This has got to account for a huge percentage of the reason why costs are going up. Subscribers can get as mad as they want to, but the fact of the matter is that Netflix would likely be losing money next year if they didn't increase prices. Hollywood is going to get on the streaming bandwagon and want a bigger slice of the pie.
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the problem is it doesn't seem like the added costst are going to new programming on the streaming service which is what everyone wants. Charge triple for the streaming if you have to. Just make it similar to the dvd selection!
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the problem is it doesn't seem like the added costst are going to new programming on the streaming service which is what everyone wants. Charge triple for the streaming if you have to. Just make it similar to the dvd selection!
I can't back it up, but I'm pretty sure Netflix doesn't have total control over their streaming selection. A lot of their streaming movies are also movies that happen to be on OnDemand, so there's probably money/licensing/rights issues they have to deal with.
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Exactly, which is what makes this whole argument about Netflix so stupid. They would probably love suggestions people offer for them, but they cannot do them. They can't simply triple, or quadruple, their costs and have a full dvd selection unless the people that own the movies allow them to. Even if they did it could, a stunt like that would chase many of their customers away.
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For one thing, the cost of licensing what they already have to stream is increasing, and with all of the consolidation that's happening in the industry, that probably won't be improving. Forget growth, they need cash to maintain the status quo. Also, the transition to all streaming is happening a lot slower than they wanted. They expected people to stop asking for disks in the mail, and it didn't happen (for obvious reasons). Mailing DVDs is expensive. Streaming them costs next to nothing. A big part of the reason for this change is to make people choose one plan or the other, preferable for them the streaming plan.
More important, we're talking about their current business model with a future that nobody can predict. Who the hell knows who people will be paying for their movies in 2 years time. Netflix has done a fantastic job of spreading their brand to a variety of STB's. Crawling into bed with M$ worked wonders for them. But honestly, the next big thing might completely wipe them out.
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Wait...if Netflix would actually prefer to be all-streaming, who the hell is going to protest that? Why is it taking so long to switch over? I'd be happier than a pig in shit if everything was available to stream. What customers would actually prefer to go through the hassle of DVD by mail, as opposed to instant internet access? That makes no damn sense.
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The people that own the rights to movies want to get as much revenue as possible from them. Holding back on streaming helps them with physical sales as well as possibly put larger premiums on what they are allowing to be streamed.
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No, I get that. I thought Barto was implying that customer trends indicated they preferred the DVD-by-mail option. I can totally see from a business standpoint why that option is more attractive.
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If you don't have a good internet access or have a capped internet service streaming in HD can be a problem. My wife and I were using free apartment wide wireless to save money for awhile, streaming wasn't an option then. My parents still use dialup simply because high speed access where they live, a farming community, is very expensive. I don't know, I'm not sure what percentage of the market is really ready for streaming instead of mail, yet.
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Gotcha. That makes sense. Sometimes, I forget that not everyone has high speed internet.
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Wait...if Netflix would actually prefer to be all-streaming, who the hell is going to protest that? Why is it taking so long to switch over? I'd be happier than a pig in shit if everything was available to stream. What customers would actually prefer to go through the hassle of DVD by mail, as opposed to instant internet access? That makes no damn sense.
Aside from the examples Yorost gave, (and I've got friends that are capped at 200mb/month because of where they live, just to add another example), the studios still dictate what can/can't be streamed. Nobody's going to cancel their 3 at a time plan when it's got 10 times the number of titles available. Netflix originally started giving the streaming away for free on the assumption that pretty soon that would be all their business. They were very wrong in that regard.
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Just about September 1st... anyone changing thier plan?
I wanted to remove my streaming and keep my dvds, but it seems netflix has got me by the balls... Ive been watching Battlestar Galactica through streaming and I am on the beginning of season 4 and it seems that the first half of season 4 is streaming only and not on dvd, but the second half of season 4 is on dvd meaning I need to keep my streaming to watch another 5 episodes or so. I wanted to watch all of season 4 before the 1st, but due to some issues that happened with my gfs family Ive had to spend a couple weekends in Pittsburgh this month.
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Just about September 1st... anyone changing thier plan?
I wanted to remove my streaming and keep my dvds, but it seems netflix has got me by the balls... Ive been watching Battlestar Galactica through streaming and I am on the beginning of season 4 and it seems that the first half of season 4 is streaming only and not on dvd, but the second half of season 4 is on dvd meaning I need to keep my streaming to watch another 5 episodes or so. I wanted to watch all of season 4 before the 1st, but due to some issues that happened with my gfs family Ive had to spend a couple weekends in Pittsburgh this month.
I watch tons of movies/tv shows on instant streaming and get the newer stuff on DVD, so I'll be keeping my unlimited streaming plus 1 dvd a month plan. It's all still cheaper than cable, or constant trips to block buster.
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Just about September 1st... anyone changing thier plan?
I wanted to remove my streaming and keep my dvds, but it seems netflix has got me by the balls... Ive been watching Battlestar Galactica through streaming and I am on the beginning of season 4 and it seems that the first half of season 4 is streaming only and not on dvd, but the second half of season 4 is on dvd meaning I need to keep my streaming to watch another 5 episodes or so. I wanted to watch all of season 4 before the 1st, but due to some issues that happened with my gfs family Ive had to spend a couple weekends in Pittsburgh this month.
I watch tons of movies/tv shows on instant streaming and get the newer stuff on DVD, so I'll be keeping my unlimited streaming plus 1 dvd a month plan. It's all still cheaper than cable, or constant trips to block buster.
Same here.
A few people I work with have cancelled/are cancelling their Netflix because of the increase, but I'm keeping mine. It's still a great deal. I stream TV and movies quite a bit and what I can't stream, I get as DVD's in the mail.
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I cancelled mine last month, but we still have my bf's.
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We canceled our plan.
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Keeping both....I watch alot of newer releases on blu-ray/dvd...my kids watch the streaming constantly
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I thought about switching over to streaming-only, but I decided to keep the 1-at-a-time thing for another month. I think I'll just end up keeping it, because I'm not all that satisfied with what's available to stream, yet.
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We canceled both Netflix and Gamefly and got Blockbuster. Saves me like ten bucks (with the two disc plan), and I get games and movies :metal (although legitimately Gamefly is better if you just want games).
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/starz-ends-renewal-negotiations-with-netflix-will-pull-movies-f/
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If netflix doesn't start getting these deals done... they may be finished in a few years because there is a lot of competition brewing at the moment.
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/starz-ends-renewal-negotiations-with-netflix-will-pull-movies-f/
What a BS argument from Starz. The premium nature of their brand is of no value, because people don't want to pay for anything to begin with. Being a brand that's defined by being more expensive is market poison. Before this, I thought Starz was cool because they were embracing the trends of the industry. That's more valuable than being able to call themselves a premium brand.
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I was about to mention that. I have never thought of Starz in any capacity other than "Oh yeah this still exists?"
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MSN suggests you re-evaluate if Netflix is worth it once Starz pulls the plug
https://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/01/7561166-is-your-netflix-queue-in-trouble?gt1=43001
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People are overreacting to Starz leaving the table. It's not like Netflix had a comprehensive library to begin with, they can spend that money on other streaming deals. Starz isn't so great that they can't replace it with comparable material. If anything, if you've streamed most of what you wanted from Starz this is probably good since you will get different material.
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Starz had Spartacus which I streamed over Netflix and was awesome, I think Netflix is losing ground pretty fast.
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Starz had Spartacus which I streamed over Netflix and was awesome, I think Netflix is losing ground pretty fast.
I don't think Netflix is losing ground, the Starz deal thing is being a bit overblown. But they're stagnating. They're trying to get rid of the DVD business too fast, and the streaming isn't going as fast as they like.
I've seen both Netflix and AMC make this mistake. When you want to do something, and the rest of the world isn't behind you, it's not going to happen. Netflix wants to be the streaming video company, but the industry that makes the videos they want to stream isn't ready for it yet. AMC wanted to produce TV their way, and created an absolute shitstorm of bad will around them through pure incompetence.
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Starz had Spartacus which I streamed over Netflix and was awesome, I think Netflix is losing ground pretty fast.
I don't think Netflix is losing ground, the Starz deal thing is being a bit overblown. But they're stagnating. They're trying to get rid of the DVD business too fast, and the streaming isn't going as fast as they like.
I've seen both Netflix and AMC make this mistake. When you want to do something, and the rest of the world isn't behind you, it's not going to happen. Netflix wants to be the streaming video company, but the industry that makes the videos they want to stream isn't ready for it yet. AMC wanted to produce TV their way, and created an absolute shitstorm of bad will around them through pure incompetence.
I agree with everything you say except the part where netflix isnt losing ground. With everything you say, plus the fact that many other competitors are now involved in streaming services plus the netflix price jump, I am not sure how you can say netflix isnt losing ground.
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Starz had Spartacus which I streamed over Netflix and was awesome, I think Netflix is losing ground pretty fast.
I don't think Netflix is losing ground, the Starz deal thing is being a bit overblown. But they're stagnating. They're trying to get rid of the DVD business too fast, and the streaming isn't going as fast as they like.
I've seen both Netflix and AMC make this mistake. When you want to do something, and the rest of the world isn't behind you, it's not going to happen. Netflix wants to be the streaming video company, but the industry that makes the videos they want to stream isn't ready for it yet. AMC wanted to produce TV their way, and created an absolute shitstorm of bad will around them through pure incompetence.
I agree with everything you say except the part where netflix isnt losing ground. With everything you say, plus the fact that many other competitors are now involved in streaming services plus the netflix price jump, I am not sure how you can say netflix isnt losing ground.
Except for higher level computer users, no one cares about Netflix's competitors yet. Among most people, Netflix is it.
I agree with you there's danger. If Netflix doesn't take its competition seriously, they will get beaten.
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Starz had Spartacus which I streamed over Netflix and was awesome, I think Netflix is losing ground pretty fast.
I don't think Netflix is losing ground, the Starz deal thing is being a bit overblown. But they're stagnating. They're trying to get rid of the DVD business too fast, and the streaming isn't going as fast as they like.
I've seen both Netflix and AMC make this mistake. When you want to do something, and the rest of the world isn't behind you, it's not going to happen. Netflix wants to be the streaming video company, but the industry that makes the videos they want to stream isn't ready for it yet. AMC wanted to produce TV their way, and created an absolute shitstorm of bad will around them through pure incompetence.
I agree with everything you say except the part where netflix isnt losing ground. With everything you say, plus the fact that many other competitors are now involved in streaming services plus the netflix price jump, I am not sure how you can say netflix isnt losing ground.
Except for higher level computer users, no one cares about Netflix's competitors yet. Among most people, Netflix is it.
I agree with you there's danger. If Netflix doesn't take its competition seriously, they will get beaten.
I guess the "yet" part is where we disagree. While I personally don't know anyone who subscribes to any streaming service other than netflix, from reading this thread it seems that some people have bought into Netflix's competitors... hulu+, blockbuster, redbox (to some extent you can say they are a competitor). At the end of the day, I am pretty much agreeing with all your points and whether or not netflix is losing customers now or not, they need to start being serious about streaming or about keeping the prices low to keep customers.
I personally really enjoy the streaming service except for the selection. I love how I can stream from my PC, my ipod touch, my xbox, and my blu ray player, but I find I rarely use it (except for battlestart galactica) for me to keep paying for the service. I feel like netflix has come this far that screwing up with the customers can cause some serious long term issues for them. I still love the DVD service though, I should be getting Iron Maiden Visions of the Beast tomorrow.
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I had one at a time with streaming. I decided to ditch both of them. Just canceled for a few reasons. Been with Netflix since 2007.
Perhaps at some point I'll rejoin, but I'm out for now.
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Netflix dropped the quickster service today.
https://money.cnn.com/2011/10/10/technology/netflix_qwikster/index.htm?hpt=hp_t1
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:lol
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Yea I got the email saying it was dropped an hour or so ago.
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I wonder how many customers the original announcement cost them. Maybe it was just a response to people complaining, but seems likely they would only kill the idea as a way to plug a drain of customers.
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My god this has to be the worst run company over the past year, well them HP and BOA are probably the top 3.
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Netflix continues to shoot itself in the foot.
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"We're done raising prices."
Yeah, okay.
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I know there's a lot of people sitting at their computers and bitching about how poorly run the company is, but I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. Why? Because right now, I could log in and find something damn interesting to watch in about two minutes. For that very reason, I'm keeping my subscription. I'm sure the majority of the userbase feels the same way. Sure, Corporate fucked up, but I still get to watch my movies and TV. Plus, there's the TV shows from the premium channels I don't get.
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. Plus, there's the TV shows from the premium channels I don't get.
Don't count on that for a whole lot longer. Showtime already pulled the plug on most of their shows, and Starz is doing it as well.
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. Plus, there's the TV shows from the premium channels I don't get.
Don't count on that for a whole lot longer. Showtime already pulled the plug on most of their shows, and Starz is doing it as well.
So... I know about starz, but are you saying shows like Dexter won't be on DVD??? I find that hard to believe. No streaming maybe, but I think the DVD's will still be there for theses series. Which means I'll still get them ;D
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. Plus, there's the TV shows from the premium channels I don't get.
Don't count on that for a whole lot longer. Showtime already pulled the plug on most of their shows, and Starz is doing it as well.
So... I know about starz, but are you saying shows like Dexter won't be on DVD??? I find that hard to believe. No streaming maybe, but I think the DVD's will still be there for theses series. Which means I'll still get them ;D
Last I knew, Showtime did not comment on the DVD availability, the streaming stuff was pulled months ago.
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See, from a Canadian perspective, we only ever had streaming, it's the same price as it always has been, and until recently, we had shit all for content. We don't have Hulu, and you have to do all kinds of workarounds to watch things legitimately on American TV network sites. You Americans get way more cool stuff, so stop complaining.
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I know there's a lot of people sitting at their computers and bitching about how poorly run the company is, but I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. Why? Because right now, I could log in and find something damn interesting to watch in about two minutes. For that very reason, I'm keeping my subscription. I'm sure the majority of the userbase feels the same way. Sure, Corporate fucked up, but I still get to watch my movies and TV. Plus, there's the TV shows from the premium channels I don't get.
I cant. However, even with all the crap about this company at the moment, I am keeping the DVD/BluRay service since I enjoy being able to rent pretty much anything thats been made into a DVD, including Nightwish concerts, Metallica Concerts, DT concerts (although I own them all) and tons more.
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See, from a Canadian perspective, we only ever had streaming, it's the same price as it always has been, and until recently, we had shit all for content. We don't have Hulu, and you have to do all kinds of workarounds to watch things legitimately on American TV network sites. You Americans get way more cool stuff, so stop complaining.
In the UK, the only legit streaming option we have is terrible. You pay for online streaming along with DVD rental and then you find out that the majority of good TV shows + films are pay per view anyway (even with the subscription).
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I know there's a lot of people sitting at their computers and bitching about how poorly run the company is, but I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. Why? Because right now, I could log in and find something damn interesting to watch in about two minutes. For that very reason, I'm keeping my subscription. I'm sure the majority of the userbase feels the same way. Sure, Corporate fucked up, but I still get to watch my movies and TV. Plus, there's the TV shows from the premium channels I don't get.
It doesn't take losing a majority to severely cut into their revenue. If the original announcement to split only caused some complaints why would they back track? It's not like they could have been so blind to not expect some griping on the decision. They must have had a clear indication it was going to cost them business, probably already so.
There's protest cancellations, but I would think it would be more than that. I wonder if they started to have evidence that splitting into two would encourage customers to decide between one or the other instead of keeping both.
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See, from a Canadian perspective, we only ever had streaming, it's the same price as it always has been, and until recently, we had shit all for content. We don't have Hulu, and you have to do all kinds of workarounds to watch things legitimately on American TV network sites. You Americans get way more cool stuff, so stop complaining.
Well we only get all the cool stuff because we make 90% of all the cool stuff :)
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The Canadian and US film industries are tied together very closely.
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I know there's a lot of people sitting at their computers and bitching about how poorly run the company is, but I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. Why? Because right now, I could log in and find something damn interesting to watch in about two minutes. For that very reason, I'm keeping my subscription. I'm sure the majority of the userbase feels the same way. Sure, Corporate fucked up, but I still get to watch my movies and TV. Plus, there's the TV shows from the premium channels I don't get.
It doesn't take losing a majority to severely cut into their revenue. If the original announcement to split only caused some complaints why would they back track? It's not like they could have been so blind to not expect some griping on the decision. They must have had a clear indication it was going to cost them business, probably already so.
There's protest cancellations, but I would think it would be more than that. I wonder if they started to have evidence that splitting into two would encourage customers to decide between one or the other instead of keeping both.
This.
Netflix reported something like 1.2 million people cancelled their membership when the price hike went into affect. That's 9.6 million per month they will not be receiving, 115.2 million per year (assuming no more people leave). There goes the funds for at least three of the Dream Works titles that are suppose to help save the company.
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Well, we use Canada for locations because of the tax credits.
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Well, we use Canada for locations because of the tax credits.
Which in turn melds the talent and resources of the US and Canadian industries.
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Well, we use Canada for locations because of the tax credits.
Which in turn melds the talent and resources of the US and Canadian industries.
Well... sometimes. Usually its going to be mostly American crew, production teams, post teams, American studios yadda yadda. The US film industry is way bigger than Canada's. Without the US part, Canada wouldn't even be involved in these major leases that are often shot in Toronto for example.
I mean, really no other film/television industry in the world is as big as the industry in the US. Which was my point. The 90% figure. So yea.
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Vancouver puts a lot of material out that is usually assumed US film industry, especially basic cable originals. That's why little maple leafs are at the end of credits on a lot of US tv shows.
On location is one thing, but Canadian film industry actually works closely with the US industry producing material. The top Canadian talent ends up working within the US industry as they move up the ladder. It isn't like one or two people end up going to Hollywood like many countries do, Canada actually feeds into Hollywood the same as the US does.
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Yes I understand all of that. I'm well versed in the film industry. The fact is, if Hollywood left Canada, what would Canada have as a film industry? That's the point I'm making. I understand they work together, but basically Canada is being used for its Tax credit. If there were better tax credits in the US (which there have been recently. Michigan had a 40% credit for films; although I believe they have since revoked it but not sure.) there wouldn't be as many films shot in Canada.
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The fact that they do go there so much and that it is a normal option for them is important. Canada is their territory for regular business as much as the US is.
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The fact that they do go there so much and that it is a normal option for them is important. Canada is their territory for regular business as much as the US is.
If you didn't have the tax credit, however... I think you might have missed my point a bit. But you didn't answer my question as to what Canada's film industry would be without Hollywood. Because Hollywood would still be able to flourish without Canada's tax credit.
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That's not the situation, though. ...and if anything it emphasizes why the US and Canadian industries are one. You take Hollywood business out of any country other than the US or Canada and they probably won't notice a whole lot. Remove Hollywood from Canada and they're mostly left with the government's attempts at having something unique to Canada, virtually nothing but Degrassi.
Right now, Hollywood is the natural progression for Canadian talent. You take away location and at this point it probably still would be. Even without credit Canada would be just as accessible to Hollywood business as the rest of the US is. States with no credit aren't excluded from being under Hollywood's umbrella simply because they don't film there often.
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Two different prospective being discussed here. One from Hollywood's view, the other from Canada's view.
Canada needs Hollywood, Hollywood doesn't need Canada.
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I'm not Canadian, and Hollywood doesn't need Arizona, either.
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uhhh wat? I'm not calling any one canadian and it wasn't an insult.
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I mean there's no reason to think I was giving a Canadian perspective.
...as for Arizona, it's just a jibe. It is difficult to quantify something like need in this case. I don't know that you're right about those statements, nor do I know if it matters if you are.
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I was just trying to clarify what I thought you two were discussing. It seemed to me you were both saying the same thing from different perspectives.
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Thats a good observation, but I read an article that was released (sorry no link) after theyy announced the split, that speculated the split waa designed so netflix could sell off the streaming service to amazon. If that was the plan, the sell probably couldnt be agreed upon and then they decide to do what was right for the customer and keep the company as one.
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Netflix's owners strike me as too egotistical to sell to Amazon.
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Netflix's stock looked like it was gaining a little steam yesterday as it got close to $130.00 per share. As of right now it is sitting at $105.xx . Things are really starting to look bad for them. I think once it get people $100.00, we will see it begin crumble very quickly.
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Netflix's stock looked like it was gaining a little steam yesterday as it got close to $130.00 per share. As of right now it is sitting at $105.xx . Things are really starting to look bad for them. I think once it get people $100.00, we will see it begin crumble very quickly.
I hate sounding like I'm just saying you're wrong. Netflix has proven over the last couple months they don't quite know what they're doing. But, they have almost a billion dollars in their bank account. They aren't going to just die off immediately. And their dominance of the streaming market will give them many opportunities to right the ship.
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Netflix's stock looked like it was gaining a little steam yesterday as it got close to $130.00 per share. As of right now it is sitting at $105.xx . Things are really starting to look bad for them. I think once it get people $100.00, we will see it begin crumble very quickly.
I hate sounding like I'm just saying you're wrong. Netflix has proven over the last couple months they don't quite know what they're doing. But, they have almost a billion dollars in their bank account. They aren't going to just die off immediately. And their dominance of the streaming market will give them many opportunities to right the ship.
I understand where you are coming from. But a billion dollars will get Netflix a hell of lot more right now, than it will this time next year. They need to figure something out yesterday. Their competitors have much more than that, and can throw it around with a lot less risk. They can do all they want, but if customers are fleeing left and right. If they don't get them back before they go to the competition, they are fucked.
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So, Netflix came out in the UK today. Got a month free trial. I'm sharing the account with my sister so if we like it, we're going to split the cost every month (works out at £3 each).
Going to watch Hobo With a Shotgun on it tonight with a friend :D
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Netflix is getting better and better with their instant streaming. It's well worth the price, even if some things you have to wait for by mail.
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We don't even have the mail option. It's just streaming here.
The selection isn't brilliant right now but it's got a lot of good TV shows that I haven't watched yet.
£6 per month for unlimited streaming is really good though.
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And I think as you wade through whatever is available to you, more good stuff will pop up on the site. That's happened to me a few times, and I always have something ready to watch.
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I'm sorry, but imo the streaming selection got old real quickly. Totally not worth the money as far as I'm concerned. When I paid 9.99 for both it was well worth it. I ditched Netflix a few months ago and I don't miss it one bit.
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lol
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I wasn't crazy about the price increase, but for me the cost is still worth it. My wife and I use NetFlix almost exclusively for watching television series that we never watched when they were actually on TV. For example, right now we're plowing our way through "Lost," "Breaking Bad," and "Rescue Me." Generally, we go through one or two DVDs per week since we don't really watch a lot of stuff on regular commercial TV at night. So even if we're only averaging 6 DVDs per month, that's $1.66 per DVD and that includes the postage.
I always thought their pricing model was generous and I've been telling my wife since we signed up "they're going to spend a few years getting people hooked on this then they're going to jack the prices up"
Sure enough, that's just what they did when the opportunity (splitting the streaming and DVD by mail service) presented itself.
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I wasn't crazy about the price increase, but for me the cost is still worth it. My wife and I use NetFlix almost exclusively for watching television series that we never watched when they were actually on TV. For example, right now we're plowing our way through "Lost," "Breaking Bad," and "Rescue Me." Generally, we go through one or two DVDs per week since we don't really watch a lot of stuff on regular commercial TV at night. So even if we're only averaging 6 DVDs per month, that's $1.66 per DVD and that includes the postage.
I always thought their pricing model was generous and I've been telling my wife since we signed up "they're going to spend a few years getting people hooked on this then they're going to jack the prices up"
Sure enough, that's just what they did when the opportunity (splitting the streaming and DVD by mail service) presented itself.
They lost a shitload of customers in 2011.
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Netflix was one of the worst ran companies of 2011. I still like the dvd service, the streaming got old after like 6 monthes, but after taking time off, id consider starting up the streaming if they get a better selection.
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I wasn't crazy about the price increase, but for me the cost is still worth it. My wife and I use NetFlix almost exclusively for watching television series that we never watched when they were actually on TV. For example, right now we're plowing our way through "Lost," "Breaking Bad," and "Rescue Me." Generally, we go through one or two DVDs per week since we don't really watch a lot of stuff on regular commercial TV at night. So even if we're only averaging 6 DVDs per month, that's $1.66 per DVD and that includes the postage.
I always thought their pricing model was generous and I've been telling my wife since we signed up "they're going to spend a few years getting people hooked on this then they're going to jack the prices up"
Sure enough, that's just what they did when the opportunity (splitting the streaming and DVD by mail service) presented itself.
They lost a shitload of customers in 2011.
Yeah, they did.
But I agree completely with Kirk.
My wife and I ditched cable all together; were not home enough, and the price for what we got was awful. So we did Netflix before the service split, and I actually said "I would pay more for this." It was underpriced, considering they threw streaming in the packages. Even now, I could make the case. I think a lot of the complaining comes from people who use this to plus their cable options... so when the 8 dollars a month is suddenly raised, yeah, it is kind of shocking. But even if they were to raise their prices again, it would still be less than what we would pay for cable.
We did cut the streaming, solely based on our slow internet speeds and Wii interface not buffering streams. But we bumped up our discs to 3 out at a time from 2, and it has been quite good.
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I wasn't crazy about the price increase, but for me the cost is still worth it. My wife and I use NetFlix almost exclusively for watching television series that we never watched when they were actually on TV. For example, right now we're plowing our way through "Lost," "Breaking Bad," and "Rescue Me." Generally, we go through one or two DVDs per week since we don't really watch a lot of stuff on regular commercial TV at night. So even if we're only averaging 6 DVDs per month, that's $1.66 per DVD and that includes the postage.
I always thought their pricing model was generous and I've been telling my wife since we signed up "they're going to spend a few years getting people hooked on this then they're going to jack the prices up"
Sure enough, that's just what they did when the opportunity (splitting the streaming and DVD by mail service) presented itself.
They lost a shitload of customers in 2011.
Yeah, they did.
But I agree completely with Kirk.
My wife and I ditched cable all together; were not home enough, and the price for what we got was awful. So we did Netflix before the service split, and I actually said "I would pay more for this." It was underpriced, considering they threw streaming in the packages. Even now, I could make the case. I think a lot of the complaining comes from people who use this to plus their cable options... so when the 8 dollars a month is suddenly raised, yeah, it is kind of shocking. But even if they were to raise their prices again, it would still be less than what we would pay for cable.
We did cut the streaming, solely based on our slow internet speeds and Wii interface not buffering streams. But we bumped up our discs to 3 out at a time from 2, and it has been quite good.
I'm a big sports fan so Netflix is no substitute for cable. I just think the steaming service is chock full of garbage. That's my opinion.
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In my experience if there's a movie I want to watch, it's not on Netflix. Streaming is really only good for TV shows.
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Their streaming service's strength is TV. I cant wait for cable to die so all TV can just be streamed whenever I want it to.
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There's plenty of movies to stream (notice I didn't say 'good movies'), but yeah, the selection really isn't there yet. The TV streaming is great though.
Between Netflix and Hulu, I don't actually watch TV anymore. Too inconvenient!
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Okay, I just unlinked my Netflix account with Facebook. I share my account with my sister and I just got a text saying: "LOL, YOU'RE WATCHING TEEN MOM" :lol
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Is it just me or is the streaming service losing movies? I remember watching Zombieland and Full Metal Jacket on there a long time ago and now they are add only.
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They have lost some recently; some of their licensing deals with the studios expired and weren't renewed. I'm pretty sure they have different contracts for DVD and streaming.
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Is it just me or is the streaming service losing movies? I remember watching Zombieland and Full Metal Jacket on there a long time ago and now they are add only.
Every title has a license with a specific amount of time it will be available to stream. If the license isn't renewed, the title gets pulled.
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Is it just me or is the streaming service losing movies? I remember watching Zombieland and Full Metal Jacket on there a long time ago and now they are add only.
Yeah, I believe Staz play is done. Most of the good movies came from them.
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I wasn't crazy about the price increase, but for me the cost is still worth it. My wife and I use NetFlix almost exclusively for watching television series that we never watched when they were actually on TV. For example, right now we're plowing our way through "Lost," "Breaking Bad," and "Rescue Me." Generally, we go through one or two DVDs per week since we don't really watch a lot of stuff on regular commercial TV at night. So even if we're only averaging 6 DVDs per month, that's $1.66 per DVD and that includes the postage.
I always thought their pricing model was generous and I've been telling my wife since we signed up "they're going to spend a few years getting people hooked on this then they're going to jack the prices up"
Sure enough, that's just what they did when the opportunity (splitting the streaming and DVD by mail service) presented itself.
They lost a shitload of customers in 2011.
Yeah, they did.
But I agree completely with Kirk.
My wife and I ditched cable all together; were not home enough, and the price for what we got was awful. So we did Netflix before the service split, and I actually said "I would pay more for this." It was underpriced, considering they threw streaming in the packages. Even now, I could make the case. I think a lot of the complaining comes from people who use this to plus their cable options... so when the 8 dollars a month is suddenly raised, yeah, it is kind of shocking. But even if they were to raise their prices again, it would still be less than what we would pay for cable.
We did cut the streaming, solely based on our slow internet speeds and Wii interface not buffering streams. But we bumped up our discs to 3 out at a time from 2, and it has been quite good.
I'm a big sports fan so Netflix is no substitute for cable. I just think the steaming service is chock full of garbage. That's my opinion.
Yeah, looking at what they offer on there, I probably wouldn't bother with the streaming. But for us, 2 DVDs is definitely worth what we're paying.