Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[Shade]

The Enemy Inside is the best straightforward metal song DT has ever made.

I'd say BITS tops it, just got more to it IMO. Although I'd say they're both great songs.

[jakepriest]

The Enemy Inside is the best straightforward metal song DT has ever made.

I'd say BITS tops it, just got more to it IMO. Although I'd say they're both great songs.

How is BITS a straightforward metal song?

[Zyzzyva17]

Top 5 favorite DT songs that most fans dislike:

5. The Answer Lies Within
4. Just Let Me Breathe
3. A Nightmare to Remember
2. Overture (SDOIT)
1. Lost Not Forgotten

Top 5 least favorite DT songs that most fans like:
(Note: I don't dislike any of these, but I rank them much lower than other people)

5. Trial of Tears
4. Finally Free
3. Home
2. Voices
1. The Great Debate

[jakepriest]

Top 5 favorite DT songs that most fans dislike:

5. The Answer Lies Within
4. Just Let Me Breathe
3. A Nightmare to Remember
2. Overture (SDOIT)
1. Lost Not Forgotten

I like ANTR and Overture

[Zyzzyva17]

I like ANTR and Overture

And you are one person. I think the general opinion of those two songs is less positive, though I could be wrong.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I think you are correct, though I like both of the pieces in question.

[Laughingplace56]

Top 5 favorite DT songs that most fans dislike:

5. The Answer Lies Within
4. Just Let Me Breathe
3. A Nightmare to Remember
2. Overture (SDOIT)
1. Lost Not Forgotten

Top 5 least favorite DT songs that most fans like:
(Note: I don't dislike any of these, but I rank them much lower than other people)

5. Trial of Tears
4. Finally Free
3. Home
2. Voices
1. The Great Debate

This is how i would arrange those in a top 10 list:
1. The Great Debate
2. Home
3. Finally Free
4. Trial of Tears (great song that i don't regard as highly as most seem to.)
5. Lost Not Forgotten (love it. Don't get the hate at all.)
6. Overture (This is an excellent overture.)
7. Voices (I like it a lot, just not as much as everyone else.)
8. Just Let Me Breathe (people don't like this song? I think it's really fun.)
9. The Answer Lies Within (I like it, but it's a little boring.)
10. A Nightmare To Remember (would be perfectly fine if it was like 7 minutes shorter. Still fun every now and then however.)

[son_ov_hades]

Had a hard time trying to discover what each acronym meant.
Are you guys lazy? Why not write the whole album or song name?

Seriously! Acronyms are only useful when they can be easily understood at a glance. I mean "TOWHTSTS" is useless and by the time I've thought of all the letters I could have typed "The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun" three times. In this age of everyone knowing how to type I don't get the point of these acronyms.

[Jaffa]

I agree that TOWHTSTS is a ridiculous acronym (personally, I refer to it as Ridiculously Long Song Title), but as a general rule, acronyms aren't a problem.  You just get used to them. 

[Zook]

I was that way at first. I always typed out the full title. Still do sometimes. But other times, yeah, I'm lazy.

[Sycsa]

Had a hard time trying to discover what each acronym meant.
Are you guys lazy? Why not write the whole album or song name?

When I was a DTF rookie, I remember I often had to google acronyms and remember being mildly annoyed by the whole thing. They'll quickly rub off on you, without even noticing. Bookmark this in the meantime: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39318.0

[bl5150]

Yeah, a song has to be rated before it can be overrated. Of all of IAW, it gets the most hate, easily. Personally I'd say its underrated if anything, as the shorter, accessible songs often are.

This...............and it's an awesome tester for stereo systems (along with Metropolis intro)

[rumborak]

The Enemy Inside is the best straightforward metal song DT has ever made.

That's definitely controversial. My opinion on that song is that it is by far the worst instrumental they've done in their career. Pointless, meandering, and every single solo in it is terrible. Including, and especially, that "drum computer demo button" drum solo.

[King Postwhore]

Rumbo, that's not the instrumental.

[BlobVanDam]

The Enemy Inside is the best straightforward metal song DT has ever made.

That's definitely controversial. My opinion on that song is that it is by far the worst instrumental they've done in their career. Pointless, meandering, and every single solo in it is terrible.

I think your lack of even knowing what track is what is more controversial here.

[rumborak]

Oh shit. Never mind. Totally mapped that to Enigma Machine.

TEM is still shit though.

[BlobVanDam]

ENIGMA MACHINE. EM. NO "THE". CONTROVERSY!

[King Postwhore]

 

It is my least favorite instrumental.

[rumborak]

EM is too short an acronym. I'll stick with TEM.

Unless you're telling John Myung has a suffix called "Xavier".

[BlobVanDam]

EM is too short an acronym. I'll stick with TEM.

Unless you're telling John Myung has a suffix called "Xavier".

Of course not, that's stupid.



It's the roman numeral to denote that he's the 10th robot to bear the name John Myung.

[rumborak]

Ok, back to serious controversial time:

Barring TCOT (which I quite enjoy), the best BCSL tracks are ... the covers. And even more controversially, at this point I might actually more enjoy hearing them sprucing up some old prog covers than their own new stuff.

[Jaffa]

EM is too short an acronym. I'll stick with TEM.

Fair enough.  I guess I'll stick with being confused whenever you talk about that song. 

[BlobVanDam]

Let's call Endless Sacrifice TES from now on, and Constant Motion shall become TCM, and Panic Attack becomes TPA, These Walls is TTW, Blind Faith is TBF, you get the (bigger) picture.....

[rumborak]

I never abbreviate any of those songs really because their acronyms are too short. Enigma Machine is just annoying to type.

[bl5150]

It hasn't created many fans so I'm fine thinking of EM as The Enemy Machine(TEM)

[Jaffa]

The These Walls.   

[BlobVanDam]

The These Walls.   

I found that one the most amusing too. The 2 letter acronyms have always been fine in the past. The important thing is understanding what you mean, and tbh TEM just confuses people, because they don't know whether you are screwing up Enigma Machine, or screwing up The Enemy Inside.

[GasparXR]

The These Walls.   

The Status Seeker. The Afterlife. The Another Day. The Illumination Theory. The 6:00. The Innocence Faded. The Erotomania. The Voices. The Lie. The Scarred. The New Millennium. The Peruvian Skies. Okay I'm bored, someone else do the rest.

[Zook]

Rumbo, that's not the instrumental.

[theseoafs]

Well since Enigma Machine is so goddamn annoying to type, and "EM" isn't satisfactory for some unclear reason, I suggest we assign an arbitrary symbol to it.  Unicode, anyone?

1. FAS
2. TEI
3. TLG
4. η
5. TBP
6. BTV
7. STR
8. AFTR
9. IT

[Zyzzyva17]

The scarred, the misunderstood. The stream of consciousness, the lines in the sand. The outcry, the fatal tragedy: the war inside my head.

[Zook]

So are we just naming off indie bands now?

[Jaffa]

The These Walls.   

The Lie.

I think I'd be really concerned if people actually felt the need to abbreviate 'Lie'.   

tbh TEM just confuses people, because they don't know whether you are screwing up Enigma Machine, or screwing up The Enemy Inside.

Yep.

Well since Enigma Machine is so goddamn annoying to type, and "EM" isn't satisfactory for some unclear reason, I suggest we assign an arbitrary symbol to it.  Unicode, anyone?

1. FAS
2. TEI
3. TLG
4. η
5. TBP
6. BTV
7. STR
8. AFTR
9. IT

 

[GasparXR]

Rumbo, that's not the instrumental.

[Zyzzyva17]

Well since Enigma Machine is so goddamn annoying to type, and "EM" isn't satisfactory for some unclear reason, I suggest we assign an arbitrary symbol to it.  Unicode, anyone?

I would've gone with Q.