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« Reply #1330 on: August 20, 2013, 12:34:36 PM »
Also, I think TGD is a bit underrated, but I don't really know if that's highly controversial.
I think its OVERrated. I constantly see people singing praises to it, so I really wouldn't call it underrated.

But.... But... That intro chord progression!  :metal
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« Reply #1331 on: August 20, 2013, 12:44:18 PM »
But.... But... That intro chord progression!  :metal
Yes, and I'm sure a ton of people here LOVE that chord progression. So the song isn't underrated.
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« Reply #1332 on: August 20, 2013, 12:45:41 PM »
Also, I think TGD is a bit underrated, but I don't really know if that's highly controversial.
I think its OVERrated. I constantly see people singing praises to it, so I really wouldn't call it underrated.

But.... But... That intro chord progression!  :metal

"Being underrated" doesn't mean "being bad" :P

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« Reply #1333 on: August 20, 2013, 12:47:01 PM »
"Being underrated" doesn't mean "being bad" :P

Or overrated.
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« Reply #1334 on: August 20, 2013, 12:55:28 PM »
Okay, I fucked this up :D

I wanted to write overrated.

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« Reply #1335 on: August 20, 2013, 01:08:17 PM »
Twas a bit of a jest ::)
 I probably haven't seen all the praise and recognition of this song that others have seen, so until then I feel like it's underrated.
In fact most I've seen is people saying it's overrated, so I think to me it's one of those "so overrated it's underrated" types of deals ;D
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« Reply #1336 on: August 20, 2013, 01:10:55 PM »
Twas a bit of a jest ::)
 I probably haven't seen all the praise and recognition of this song that others have seen, so until then I feel like it's underrated.
In fact most I've seen is people saying it's overrated, so I think to me it's one of those "so overrated it's underrated" types of deals ;D

But.... But... That intro chord progression!  :metal
Yes, and I'm sure a ton of people here LOVE that chord progression. So the song isn't underrated.

Well it's called a controversial opinion for a reason.
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« Reply #1337 on: August 20, 2013, 09:09:42 PM »
Ytse Jam is my fav DT instrumental.

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« Reply #1338 on: August 20, 2013, 10:47:43 PM »
Ytse Jam is my fav DT instrumental.



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« Reply #1339 on: August 21, 2013, 12:16:47 AM »
TGP used to be my #1 DT song, now I'm not sure if it's even in my top 20 anymore.

Ditto, though I'm sure it doesn't make my top 20, let alone top 50.

Also, I think TGD is a bit underrated.





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« Reply #1340 on: August 21, 2013, 03:58:21 AM »
Here are some opinions:
-SFAM would have been mediocre if they had kept Derek
-ACOS and Razor's Edge are ridiculously overrated
-Count of Tuscany has great lyrics and -BCSL is their second best album to date
-One Last Time > Through Her Eyes > The Spirit Carries On
-Ministry of Lost Souls is too short..........nah, just kidding  :lol

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« Reply #1341 on: August 21, 2013, 04:03:09 AM »
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-Count of Tuscany has great lyrics and -BCSL is their second best album to date

The Count of Tuscany is nowhere near Octavarium's levels.

A Rite Of Passage is really mediocre.

A Nightmare To Remember is far too long.


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« Reply #1342 on: August 21, 2013, 02:23:16 PM »
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.
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« Reply #1343 on: August 21, 2013, 02:32:57 PM »
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.

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« Reply #1344 on: August 21, 2013, 03:20:56 PM »
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.


I think their work ethic and their reason to get right out there even when MP wanted to "take a break" will prove you wrong.  They love to make albums and tour.
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« Reply #1345 on: August 21, 2013, 04:36:07 PM »
I can see them changing their style over the next decade as they age and are no longer able to perform certain songs at the same level, but to call it quits after 2 more albums? That's a pretty bold prediction. I imagine they are all doing well financially, but probably not to the point that they can retire and live on royalties for the rest of their lives.

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« Reply #1346 on: August 21, 2013, 04:44:55 PM »
I think they're going to do WWRD and just keep going until they physically can't. The only one even close to that age would probably be Jordan, but is keyboard playing really as strenuous as the others?
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« Reply #1347 on: August 21, 2013, 04:46:07 PM »
I think they're going to do WWRD and just keep going until they physically can't. The only one even close to that age would probably be Jordan, but is keyboard playing really as strenuous as the others?

Not to mention, not even he is showing any signs of slowing down.

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« Reply #1348 on: August 21, 2013, 04:47:24 PM »
The only one even close to that age would probably be Jordan, but is keyboard playing really as strenuous as the others?
I don't think it is, there are a lot of famous pianists who pretty much just kept going until they were dead.

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« Reply #1349 on: August 21, 2013, 06:21:10 PM »
My contraversial opinion (not truth but opinion)

Derek Sherinian was the best keyboardist DT had, followed by Kevin, and finally the beared android.

I definitely prefer Derek to Kevin.

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« Reply #1350 on: August 21, 2013, 06:22:58 PM »
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.


I think their work ethic and their reason to get right out there even when MP wanted to "take a break" will prove you wrong.  They love to make albums and tour.

Another two albums = 4 years.  Petrucci & Myung won't even be 50 by then. The rest of them will be mid 50's at most apart from Jordan who will be pushing 60.

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« Reply #1351 on: August 21, 2013, 06:24:17 PM »
One can only hope Jordan hangs up the cleats and Kevin Moore gets sick of OCI and comes back now that Portnoy's gone.  :D
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« Reply #1352 on: August 21, 2013, 06:25:40 PM »
I'd rather Derek came back before Kevin. Much preferred his style.

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« Reply #1353 on: August 21, 2013, 06:31:10 PM »
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« Reply #1354 on: August 21, 2013, 11:08:26 PM »
My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.


I think their work ethic and their reason to get right out there even when MP wanted to "take a break" will prove you wrong.  They love to make albums and tour.

Another two albums = 4 years.  Petrucci & Myung won't even be 50 by then. The rest of them will be mid 50's at most apart from Jordan who will be pushing 60.

I don't think age will be the issue necessarily. Then again, remember that video snippet a few years back where JP had to put on some heat braces for his arms, and MP needing massages every day to be able to play? I don't think you can assume the guys are all in perfect health just because we don't hear anything.
But, I think the real reason to stop would be lack of interest from the public. And that I think is realistic 2 albums from now.
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« Reply #1355 on: August 21, 2013, 11:15:12 PM »
Derek had amazing groove!  Now that Derek is gone from dream theater, So is the groove. and that's a fact.
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« Reply #1356 on: August 21, 2013, 11:21:00 PM »
Derek had amazing groove!  Now that Derek is gone from dream theater, So is the groove. and that's a fact.

Um no, still just opinion.


My controversial opinion of the day: 2 more albums after this new one. I'm calling it.


I think their work ethic and their reason to get right out there even when MP wanted to "take a break" will prove you wrong.  They love to make albums and tour.

Another two albums = 4 years.  Petrucci & Myung won't even be 50 by then. The rest of them will be mid 50's at most apart from Jordan who will be pushing 60.

I don't think age will be the issue necessarily. Then again, remember that video snippet a few years back where JP had to put on some heat braces for his arms, and MP needing massages every day to be able to play? I don't think you can assume the guys are all in perfect health just because we don't hear anything.
But, I think the real reason to stop would be lack of interest from the public. And that I think is realistic 2 albums from now.

I think you're mixing up own opinion with public opinion here. DT appears to be remaining very steady in terms of popularity, so I don't think lack of interest will be any reason to stop.
Age or lineup will be the most likely reason, and while their demanding music does have its issues as you've mentioned, I think they'll just start easing up on the balls to the wall stuff, and maybe go lighter on touring and recording, rather than sticking to the 2 year schedule.

And when did this thread turn from controversial opinions to controversial theories anyway?! :lol
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« Reply #1357 on: August 21, 2013, 11:34:48 PM »
Derek had amazing groove!  Now that Derek is gone from dream theater, So is the groove. and that's a fact.

Um no, still just opinion.


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« Reply #1358 on: August 22, 2013, 12:17:04 AM »
I don't think age will be the issue necessarily. Then again, remember that video snippet a few years back where JP had to put on some heat braces for his arms, and MP needing massages every day to be able to play? I don't think you can assume the guys are all in perfect health just because we don't hear anything.
But, I think the real reason to stop would be lack of interest from the public. And that I think is realistic 2 albums from now.

Lack of interest? You mean people stop going to concerts and buying the albums? Maybe I'm wrong here, but I thought they were as big as ever right now in terms of fanbase. I don't see that collapsing in the next ~5 years.

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« Reply #1359 on: August 22, 2013, 07:52:27 AM »
After reading some comments in TEI thread, this might be a controversial opinion: I think OTBOA is the best song on ADTOE.
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« Reply #1360 on: August 22, 2013, 08:14:19 AM »
One can only hope Jordan hangs up the cleats and Kevin Moore gets sick of OCI and comes back now that Portnoy's gone.  :D

Altough I love the music KM makes, I really doubt he would return. Besides, I can't see him playing any solo for the rest of his life. Every solo from DT would be removed in the live shows!  :biggrin:
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« Reply #1361 on: August 22, 2013, 08:53:43 AM »
One can only hope Jordan hangs up the cleats and Kevin Moore gets sick of OCI and comes back now that Portnoy's gone.  :D
JM will cut his hair before that happens (read: it's impossible) :lol

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« Reply #1362 on: August 22, 2013, 11:16:13 AM »
It still feels to me like DT are still climbing in popularity. This new album may well welcome on board a lot of new fans.

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« Reply #1363 on: August 22, 2013, 11:20:50 AM »
JR is the best keyboard player DT has had and could not be replaced *raises flameshield for the KM lovers*
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« Reply #1364 on: August 22, 2013, 11:25:12 AM »
JR is the best keyboard player DT has had and could not be replaced *raises flameshield for the KM lovers*

No controversy from me.
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