Author Topic: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged) (Read 453346 times)

Phoenix87x · « **Reply #1995 on:** July 24, 2013, 12:14:51 PM »

People passing by

Scorpion · « **Reply #1996 on:** July 24, 2013, 12:16:41 PM »

Entropia is awesome. People Passing By, Nightmist, To the End and Plains of Dawn are all Top 20 Songs for me, and the rest is very good as well. Definitely check out the Japanese bonus track Never Learn to Fly, though.

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #1997 on:** July 24, 2013, 12:28:28 PM »

Funny story: Pain of Salvation was recommended to me around the time that "Remedy Lane" came out and that was the album I bought first.

After my first listen, I HATED it!

After my second listen, I was like "meh"

Third listen:

Forth listen:

Fifth listen:

Sixth listen:

But then I got ENTROPIA

and....

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #1998 on:** July 24, 2013, 02:45:25 PM »

! (Foreword) is one of the best album openers ever, not only by Pain Of S.

Elite · « **Reply #1999 on:** July 24, 2013, 03:08:40 PM »

Quote from: Kwyjibo on July 24, 2013, 02:45:25 PM

! (Foreword) is one of the best album openers ever, not only by Pain Of S.

Not only that, it's the best first song on any debut album that I know.

Let's all kick this one straight into the top 10 of the survivor, shall we?

Scorpion · « **Reply #2000 on:** July 25, 2013, 12:42:33 PM »

No way! It's amazing but there are sooo many songs that I like more. It shouldn't have even made the finals, IMHO.

Adami · « **Reply #2001 on:** July 25, 2013, 12:45:30 PM »

So.....has there been any updates about that supposed new acoustic album?

I'm not super pumped about it, but I'll still get it. Have they started it? Or.....anything yet?

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #2002 on:** July 25, 2013, 01:06:23 PM »

I just bought Ending Themes. What an amazing thing to watch.

I used to be quite indifferent with the "new" Undertow version, but this made me love it greatly. Still can't beat the studio version, though.

Scorpion · « **Reply #2003 on:** July 25, 2013, 01:29:01 PM »

If they actually played the good Scarsick songs instead of Scarsick, America or Disco Queen, I'd like it a lot more, but it's still great. The extended version of Handful of Nothing is pure, concentrated awesomeness.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #2004 on:** July 25, 2013, 01:37:13 PM »

I thought Disco Queen is a great live track, totally digged the live version quite more than the studio one.

Scorpion · « **Reply #2005 on:** July 25, 2013, 01:40:57 PM »

Yeah Disco Queen live is better than the studio version but it's still one of my least favourites of the set. They should have played, I dunno, Enter Rain or something, that would work beautifully as the mainset closer.

Zantera · « **Reply #2006 on:** July 25, 2013, 02:46:50 PM »

Scarsick and America are both great. Disco Queen is lame though.

Elite · « **Reply #2007 on:** July 26, 2013, 07:06:09 AM »

Pain of Salvation survivor has reached the finals!
First round here; https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38224.0

Happy voting

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #2008 on:** July 26, 2013, 10:01:28 AM »

Quote from: Scorpion on July 25, 2013, 01:29:01 PM

If they actually played the good Scarsick songs instead of Scarsick, America or Disco Queen, I'd like it a lot more, but it's still great. The extended version of Handful of Nothing is pure, concentrated awesomeness.

After processing more Ending Themes, I happen to agree with you. The best Scarsick tracks were left out, and that's sad. Either way, the DVD is still quite excellent. I've yet to see Be live, you guys recommend that one?

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #2009 on:** July 26, 2013, 12:53:34 PM »

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 26, 2013, 10:01:28 AM

Quote from: Scorpion on July 25, 2013, 01:29:01 PM
If they actually played the good Scarsick songs instead of Scarsick, America or Disco Queen, I'd like it a lot more, but it's still great. The extended version of Handful of Nothing is pure, concentrated awesomeness.

After processing more Ending Themes, I happen to agree with you. The best Scarsick tracks were left out, and that's sad. Either way, the DVD is still quite excellent. I've yet to see Be live, you guys recommend that one?

I do. I first heard BE live before the studio album, I mainly listen to it live because I like the feel of it over the way the studio feels. The concept feels more Earthy live.

Adami · « **Reply #2010 on:** July 26, 2013, 01:41:07 PM »

The live version also has a few things that I like better than the studio version.

In no order, despite the numbers.

1) Johan singing the chorus to Lilium Cruentus as opposed to just Daniel.
2) Less Daniel vocal harmonies give it a more natural feeling
3) The above, but more so on Omni. The live version of Omni is just incredible.
4) The guitar solo on Iter Impius is amazing live, but was meh on the studio
5) No vocals on the soft chorus for Iter Impius, also the bridge is only half as long, which is better.
6) The ending to Iter Impius is better live.
7) The entirety of Iter Impius is actually better live.

However some vocal moments that got fleshed out and so forth are better on the studio version.

Elite · « **Reply #2011 on:** July 26, 2013, 01:42:57 PM »

Yeah, I agree. Be live is absolutely essential and fantastic.

Scorpion · « **Reply #2012 on:** July 26, 2013, 01:48:39 PM »

Iter Impius live is sooo much better than the studio version. The DVD's worth it for that alone.

Cyclopssss · « **Reply #2013 on:** September 08, 2013, 08:23:53 AM »

Special setlist for ProgPower....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZ7rCBXECk

SomeoneLikeHim · « **Reply #2014 on:** September 08, 2013, 08:38:32 AM »

Dat setlist...

Zantera · « **Reply #2015 on:** September 08, 2013, 09:23:22 AM »

Even though I don't care that much for Remedy Lane (probably their fourth best or so for me), I love it when bands do something like this. Playing a whole album in it's entirety that is.

jammindude · « **Reply #2016 on:** September 08, 2013, 12:55:19 PM »

Quote from: Cyclopssss on September 08, 2013, 08:23:53 AM

Special setlist for ProgPower....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZ7rCBXECk

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!

Where's that smiley that runs around in a tizzy with his hands in the air. Someone post that for me cause that's what I'm running around the house doing right now!!!!

Shadow Ninja 2.0 · « **Reply #2017 on:** September 08, 2013, 12:56:43 PM »

jammindude · « **Reply #2018 on:** September 08, 2013, 01:08:48 PM »

THAT'S IT!! That's what The Dude is doing right now!!

*sigh*...too bad I don't play the lottery...because that's the only way I'd get to go to this. Think they'll record it?

bout to crash · « **Reply #2019 on:** September 08, 2013, 01:37:53 PM »

As much as the idea of going to that entire festival doesn't appeal to me, I might actually do it to see Remedy Lane. I imagine tickets for next year won't be on sale for quite some time?

Mebert78 · « **Reply #2020 on:** September 08, 2013, 01:42:05 PM »

I said this in the prog nation at sea thread when pain of salvation was announced, but I don't understand why gildenlow is agreeing to these type of prog events if he is trying to distance the band from the progressive metal genre (he has said this in a road salt video interview last year, which I linked in the prog nation thread a month ago). It comes across as purely a money grab, which is a major turn off as a fan. If he is going to keep doing these events, he shouldnt make comments about not liking the band classified as prog metal anymore, in my opinion. I posted my complaint about this matter on the bands facebook page last month and daniel directly responded and brushed it off with a sarcastic comment. But this topic a legit beef as a fan who loves the genre, if you ask me. Don't use the genre only when its convenient for you. Either embrace the genre, or don't. End rant.

bout to crash · « **Reply #2021 on:** September 08, 2013, 06:20:49 PM »

Eh, I don't see what the big deal is. I can see why it's frustrating for an artist to be put in a genre box like that. It comes with a lot of assumptions and expectations, especially annoying when you (god forbid) want to make something different. Obviously the last couple of albums have been way less prog metal than the other stuff, which of course pisses some fans off who want them to play the same old shit. I don't blame him for wanting to distance them from that genre label, but I also don't blame them for wanting to take an opportunity like this. I also don't think wanting to make some money as being a terrible motive in a business where it's not that easy to make it.

Do you remember what Daniel's response was to your comment? I'm curious.

edit: Also, labels are overrated anyway

ariich · « **Reply #2022 on:** September 09, 2013, 02:46:09 AM »

I completely agree with Jackie, Daniel just doesn't like being labelled as one thing because then it can constrain you from doing something different. And as you say, the Road Salts are great albums that haven't had a great reception from some fans because they are not "prog metal".

Mebert, I remember you getting upset about this before, but honestly I don't see what the problem is. He never slated prog itself, just didn't want to be pigeonholed into a label.

Cyclopssss · « **Reply #2023 on:** September 09, 2013, 04:35:44 AM »

Remedy Lane is what got me into this band. Man, I´d give an arm and a leg to witness this show.

bout to crash · « **Reply #2024 on:** September 09, 2013, 11:55:29 AM »

Quote from: ariich on September 09, 2013, 02:46:09 AM

I completely agree with Jackie, Daniel just doesn't like being labelled as one thing because then it can constrain you from doing something different. And as you say, the Road Salts are great albums that haven't had a great reception from some fans because they are not "prog metal".

Mebert, I remember you getting upset about this before, but honestly I don't see what the problem is. He never slated prog itself, just didn't want to be pigeonholed into a label.

Exactly. I think of Steven Wilson with this, too. He's also voiced similar opinions about the genre label/pigeonhole in the past, and his early solo stuff was definitely nowhere near "prog" (nor are many of his other projects). Of course now he's made a total prog album and doesn't seem to mind being featured in every Prog magazine

It doesn't mean he's only after money, it just means he wants to make whatever music is in his heart.

abydos · « **Reply #2025 on:** September 09, 2013, 11:58:43 AM »

Well, at least SW goes out of PT to make that other type of music that he wants and won't fit PT, which is mostly where the problem lies. It's not that people want the same thing from PoS every 2 years, it's just that DG seems to go out of his way to try and differentiate himself from the rest of the crowd and in some cases - alienating a certain amount of fans I'd assume (like me).

ariich · « **Reply #2026 on:** September 09, 2013, 12:28:45 PM »

DG has never struck me as someone who goes out of his way to do something just for the sake of it. Every POS album is different, and I think the driver behind that is that what DG wants to do is always changing. I really respect the fact that he makes the music he wants to make. And let's be honest, it's not like he's going crazily experimental or moving into different genres. I find POS's recent music to still be recognisably POS.

Elite · « **Reply #2027 on:** September 09, 2013, 12:31:26 PM »

Just checking in to say that the Pain of Salvation survivor has ended after running for almost 9 months consecutively.
Here's the Results & Discussion Thread, for those interested: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35729.0

Riceloft · « **Reply #2028 on:** September 13, 2013, 12:34:47 PM »

Quote from: bout to crash on September 08, 2013, 01:37:53 PM

As much as the idea of going to that entire festival doesn't appeal to me, I might actually do it to see Remedy Lane. I imagine tickets for next year won't be on sale for quite some time?

October 1st, actually!

bout to crash · « **Reply #2029 on:** September 14, 2013, 01:11:56 PM »

Oh dear.

News: Track-by-track video for Untethered Angel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co1_h0GtAw

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