Everyone knows that Allmusic are reliable right?
"Three years ago, Liverpool's former power metal act Anathema issu" WAIT WHAT power metal ???
...some cool cover songs (like hurt by NIN or comfortably numb by PF)
Awesome! I haven't heard any cover songs live yet :/. They were going to play hindsight once, but they ran out of time. They let us choose between Fragile Dreams and Hindsight, and me and my friends (we were at the front) all yelled Fragile Dreams so that is what they did. Hindsight is a pretty cool song though, judging from the bootleg versions....some cool cover songs (like hurt by NIN or comfortably numb by PF)
I saw them play Comfortably Numb at the Gods of Metal festival in 2007 then saw them play Hurt at the Download Festival in Donington the following weekend. I've never had goosebumps like that at a show before.
I think my favourite album is A Fine Day To Exit. Fantastic band.
*kick*
I'm listening to Hindsight for the second time today (listened to it many times before though), and I just want to comment that there are some beautiful versions on here. Some don't really work (Fragile Dreams for instance), but songs like One Last Goodbye, Temporary Peace and my personal favorite, Are You There? are awesome acoustic.
Yea, it's amazing. It's a really good song that gives me chills everytime I listen to it. It's even better live, the whole crowd just fell silent while it was played. And even though they played it for the billionth time, it was still full of emotion.*kick*
I'm listening to Hindsight for the second time today (listened to it many times before though), and I just want to comment that there are some beautiful versions on here. Some don't really work (Fragile Dreams for instance), but songs like One Last Goodbye, Temporary Peace and my personal favorite, Are You There? are awesome acoustic.
That song sounds great on Judgement, but so much better on Hindsight.
further
summernight horizon
dreaming light of the sunrise
get off get out
angels walk among us
presence
a simple mistake
the gathering of the clouds
the storm before the calm
lightning song
and i see you in everything
hindsight
Chances are that Steven Wilson will be mixing the album.
He said he would be mixing it. But that was about 4 years ago :p. Not sure were in the progress of making the album they are now.
Chances are that Steven Wilson will be mixing the album.
I thought he already was mixing it? :-\
For the record: our new album wont be called Horizons. Any download links out there are fake. Dont use them! 5 days recording to go. Love, V
Yea, just read that as well.Quote from: Vincent Cavanagh's Twitter pageFor the record: our new album wont be called Horizons. Any download links out there are fake. Dont use them! 5 days recording to go. Love, V
That was August 2'nd.
we are on our way to london to meet with management and record company. Long awaited news to follow
Yea, just read that as well.Quote from: Vincent Cavanagh's Twitter pageFor the record: our new album wont be called Horizons. Any download links out there are fake. Dont use them! 5 days recording to go. Love, V
That was August 2'nd.
Danny confirmed today on a forum that Steven Wilson wil not be producing the album. Chris Tsangarides is the most likely candidate now. And it will indeed be called 'We're Here Because We're Here' (also said by Danny).
Anneke v Giersbergen probably did some vocals.
Listening to Alternative 4 right now. Downloaded their entire discography. I'm really impressed by that first listen. Definitely some Pink Floyd influence, especially for the voice. Some of the vocals feels really similar to PF's vocals.Yea, they are definitely influenced a lot by Floyd. They have some amazing covers of Comfortably Numb. Try Judgement next, last time I tried making a top 10 album list, Judgement was #4.
(https://s362.photobucket.com/albums/oo68/Crw34/FFfuuuu.gif)Bandwith exceeded?
the album will be mixed in new year. we've been talking to labels to find the right way to release it. it will be out in the spring. cheers edward - vincentI won't believe anything till I have the album in my hands.
Quotethe album will be mixed in new year. we've been talking to labels to find the right way to release it. it will be out in the spring. cheers edward - vincentI won't believe anything till I have the album in my hands.
I'm less fussed because I haven't been mad about anything since Judgement... but it's still too long. I feel sorry for Tool fans for the same reason, especially when they released 10,000 days.
I don't really like A Fine Day to Exit or A Natural Disaster. Though pulled under at 2000 meters a second is amazing.
How does that compete with the perfection of the previous two albums? ;)
Hello from deepest darkest Devon, UK.
Right now we are meticulously placing the final sounds on our new baby. The labour has been long and intense but by next week our job is done and it is in the hands of the mid-wife (mix engineer). After which we will cut the umbilical chord [sic] then it goes into incubation for an indeterminate amount of weeks. Meanwhile we interview various foster parents to see who has the greatest capacity to give the child the best start in life. If all goes well, the little bastard will see the light of day in the spring. This will be cause for celebration. Not least for us. So with that in mind, the first thing I have planned is the event you see here, visit:
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=181509738508&ref=ts
It will tell you what you need to know. I will be playing with a few of my friends. One of which, I am proud to say, is Monsieur Les (Jacques Daniels) Smith, Anathema's very own tickler of the finest ivories and smuggler of precious metals. As I will be joined by my friend and cohort we've decided to play some of the best Anathema songs. Also we'll play new tunes and versions of some of my favourite bands. This is gonna be a memorable evening and a great way to end the year. In 2010 we get the chance to return to where you are. Maybe we can visit some of those places that have so far been impossible to reach. Time will tell. We'll do everything we can. I think TCV put it about right, deserve the future!
xoxox
V
"THE ALBUM IS FINISHED! We took our time to get it right, and I believe we have done that. I have the hard drive here in my country cottage, it is ready to be given to Steven Wilson. Happy christmas and wonderful times to all!"
\o/
That is all.
So SW will be doing this after all? I'm confused.
tracklist
THIN AIR
SUMMERNIGHT HORIZON
DREAMING LIGHT
EVERYTHING
ANGELS WALK AMONG US
PRESENCE
A SIMPLE MISTAKE
THE STORM BEFORE THE CALM
GET OFF, GET OUT
UNIVERSAL
HINDSIGHT
the full length of the album is about 62 minutes. its produced by vincent cavanagh and assisted by me, its recorded by les smith, mark ellis, darryl anthony, jamie and vincent cavanagh
all songs written by danny cavanagh, john douglas and vincent cavanagh
the songs have been upgraded, made better, layered with textures and harmonies, and i am sure when it is mixed and ready to go, its going to do very well. exactly how well it does remains to be seen, but it is WAY above aything we ever did before.
in fact, i think the scene is stale and needs a shake up, and we are the ones to do it.
scheduled for release in april via kscope music. a complete full european tour playing the whole album will be coming to all european territories... at some point in the future there MIGHT be a US tour with porcupine tree, and an EP independently released later in the year.
:-)
\o/
That is all.
Yesterday there was a Danny/Anneke acoustic show. Here's what I missed because I hadn't received any salary the whole month.
Daniel Cavanagh: 1. Wasted Years (IRON MAIDEN)
2. Deep (ANATHEMA)
3. Lost Control (ANATHEMA)
4. One Last Goodbye (ANATHEMA)
5. Are You There? (ANATHEMA)
6. Wish You Were Here (PINK FLOYD)
7. High Hopes (PINK FLOYD)
8. Big Love (FLEETWOOD MAC)
9. Fragile Dreams (ANATHEMA)
10. Flying (ANATHEMA)
Anneke van Giersbergen:
1. Lost and Found (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
2. Day After Yesterday (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
3. Wonder (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
4. Nu Nog (Anneke van Giersbergen)
5. Trail of Grief (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
6. My Electricity (THE GATHERING)
7. Beautiful One (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
8. Yalin (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
9. Sunny Side Up (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
10. Hey Okay! (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
11. Not The Most Pretty Girl (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
12. The Power of Love (FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD)
Daniel Cavanagh and Anneke van Giersbergen:
1. Teardrop (MASSIVE ATTACK)
2. A Natural Disaster (ANATHEMA)
3. Parisienne Moonlight (ANATHEMA)
4. Songbird (FLEETWOOD MAC)
5. Temporary Peace (ANATHEMA)
6. The Blower's Daughter (DAMIEN RICE)
7. Leaves (THE GATHERING)
8. Jolene (DOLLY PARTON)
Encore:
9. You Learn About It (THE GATHERING)
10. Stairway To Heaven (LED ZEPPELIN)
11. Longest Day (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
How about that, eh? I want to kill myself. But I won't, because Danny has said that they are thinking about coming again and recording a DVD. Hope he wasn't fucking with us.
A silver lining in the black cloud - someone made a recording of it. 128kbps but for an acoustic show it still sounds OK.
Okay so I decided that A Fine Day To Exit is pretty amazing, only A Natural Disaster left to click now :hat
edit: Release :hefdaddy
whoops :facepalm: I always forget they did stuff before alternative 4.
I'm not very keen on doom metal, so discounting those 3 albums.
Anathema is one of my favourite bands, so I thought I'd make a topic. They aren't really well know in the US, which is a shame. They have a few really solid albums, but unfortunately their last album was a few years ago (not including Hindsight, which is acoustic renditions of old songs).Progressive rock but no way would I call the last 4 original albums prog. metal. I bought Hindsight and am still working out if Angelica sounds good with doing it acoustically.
Last.fm tags them as atmospheric rock with a few progressive influences. Their style has changed alot, the first few albums were death/doom metal but their last few albums are atmospheric/progressive. I recommend all of you to listen to Judgement and Alternative 4, two of my favourite albums. But I like everything they made after (and including) Eternity.
Alternative 4 6th?
:|
Vincent, John and I are with mr. Wilson right now and it's working very well!
:-)
Alternative 4 and anything since that is a good choice. Make sure you don't miss on Judgement, even if you (for whatever reason) don't like the ones you're planning to listen to first.Ah Ok judgement is another alternative, too. Thank you.
Album cover is done.... things are moving
I just hope Lee Douglas isn't featured too much. I find her singing to be fairly annoying.
With that in mind the band can announce that John Douglas' sister Lee has joined the group on a full-time basis. She had this to say of her involvement:
"It’s great to be more involved musically, and I feel that my vocals are adding a new presence and depth to the dynamic of the group. I’m in it for the long haul, so bring it on!"
I had already read that, that is why I hope her input won't be as much as that I think that it is.
I saw them live twice, and I was glad she wasn't there the second time :p.I had already read that, that is why I hope her input won't be as much as that I think that it is.
Considering she doesn't play an instrument, i think her vocals will be featured on most songs, at least live. Otherwise she'll just be standing in the background. :P
thread rez.
Anathema are doing an evening with show in london the day after the anesthetize premier... do I stay overnight and see them?
You should definitely go to the Anathema show. It's gonna be awesome I'm sure!
I would offer you accomodation but not exactly bursting with space here...
I don't really get why there would be a 18+ restriction.
I think I was the only one that was more excited to see Anathema then PT when they opened for PT.
You should definitely go to the Anathema show. It's gonna be awesome I'm sure!
I would offer you accomodation but not exactly bursting with space here...
I've slept in some preeetty tight places if it makes it any better :lol (5 people on one single bed :metal)
Violence just clicked for me :omg: :hefdaddyViolence in amazing. I love it so much :heart.
Hey Voxyn, you want to do a top 25 or something for these guys?I am incredibly bad at making top whatever lists, but I am willing to give it a try sometime. Hadn't thought about it but it sounds like fun.
5.1 surround mix? The main album was mixed by Wilson which means..Wish I could afford a 5.1 system :(. Am probably still buying the special edition to have the mix though. It's only 2 euro more and maybe sometime in the future I will be able to buy a 5.1 system :p.
:omg: :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
You can buy cheap 5.1 systems here for ~£50, just get one of them :PI want a good one D:.
That's only because you don't like Dark Tranquillity, and their new album is probably their best, and it's their 11th album ;DI bet they don't have Daniel Gildenlöw!
That's only because you don't like Dark Tranquillity, and their new album is probably their best, and it's their 11th album ;D
That's only because you don't like Dark Tranquillity, and their new album is probably their best, and it's their 11th album ;D
The new DT album is NOWHERE near their best one
I'm only on the third song so far, but I'd say something between Alternative 4 and A Natural Disaster.
If I remember correct - you like the old Anathema better, right?I'm only on the third song so far, but I'd say something between Alternative 4 and A Natural Disaster.
Thanks.
Wow, thin air and angels walk among us is great!They change their style so often, it's hard to say. But the new album is amazing, so I'd say go for it.
Is their new album a good place to start with these guys?
Wow, thin air and angels walk among us is great!
Is their new album a good place to start with these guys?
If I like Pink Floyd and PT will I dig this band? Thinking about getting a few albums, where should I start?We're Here Because We're Here (:hefdaddy), Alternative 4 or Judgement. Although you might also like A Natural Disaster seeing as it is a bite more proggy than those last two.
Also get every PF cover they've done, because they are much better than the originals.I wouldn't say that, but they are some of the best covers I have ever heard.
"A Simple Mistake" :metal :hefdaddy
Listening to Were Here Because Were Here, it's pretty awesome so far.
Listening to Were Here Because Were Here, it's pretty awesome so far.
Who's album is that? :P
I heard It's a band that has Vince Cavanaugh and Kevin Moore :neverusethis:Listening to Were Here Because Were Here, it's pretty awesome so far.
Who's album is that? :P
Can't think...must be a new band
WHBWH has already overtaken A4, and is nearing beating Judgement for best Anathema album :hefdaddyThis :hefdaddy.
WHBWH has already overtaken A4, and is nearing beating Judgement for best Anathema album :hefdaddyThis :hefdaddy.
Can't believe how awesome it is.
I've never heard these guys, but I've heard a lot of talk all around about this album. Is it really that good? I'm tempted to pre order it...It is that good.
I've never heard these guys, but I've heard a lot of talk all around about this album. Is it really that good? I'm tempted to pre order it...
My mouse is hovering over the Pre order button.Of course. You've heard it, you must know how awesome it is.
DO I PRESS IT?!?!?!
*click*:biggrin:
So guess who's seeing them next Friday :metalCool! They were amazing the times that I saw them live, enjoy!
I didn't realise there was a Transatlantic gig the same day :huh: Darn.
SO far WHBWH is my number one album of 2010.Same. But haven't heard the new PoS yet.
SO far WHBWH is my number one album of 2010.Same. But haven't heard the new PoS yet.
After several plays, my conclusion is that this is a top10 (maybe 5 even) album amongst my favorites.We're Here Because We're Here is definitely my album of the year so far
I love the earlier Anathema-albums, but this album doesn't sound like anything else they've done.
The positive energy is overwhelming, the atmosphere and the emotions are amazing, and overall this is a fantastic record.
I doubt there will be another album released this year that can top this, but again... Agalloch are working on a new album.
So you never know. :P
This album literally amazes me every time I hear it. I really can't get enough of it.:yarr
Hi, everybody. I'm just here to remind you the sheer awesomeness of A Simple Mistake.
That is all. Thanks for reading.
edit: A Natural Disaster is far worse on the album than it was live :(
They didn't play Summernight Horizon? :( :sadpanda:
Ye but i mean, if they HAD to leave something out, they should pick Angels walk among us and Dreaming Light. :PwhatwhatWHAAAT? Dreaming Light might be my favorite song of the album!
Ye but i mean, if they HAD to leave something out, they should pick Angels walk among us and Dreaming Light. :P
Universal > Hindsight.
Universal > Hindsight.
Nice review btw, my feeling exactly :)
It was originally planned?
thanks dude! nice review! good lad :-)
How did you tell him about it?
And darn, Pulled under is such a good song! And I forgot they have a dvd!
Make sure to read that forum and see how classy Danny acts when there are negative opinions about the album :)
well anyway there ıs always my dyıng brıde for those who lıke bands to stay the same.
Not really. A lot of people also dislike the album, but going out and saying they are stupid for it is quite embarrassing.Make sure to read that forum and see how classy Danny acts when there are negative opinions about the album :)
I kinda understand him though, most people and their opinions in that thread are so fail.
Not really. A lot of people also dislike the album, but going out and saying they are stupid for it is quite embarrassing.Make sure to read that forum and see how classy Danny acts when there are negative opinions about the album :)
I kinda understand him though, most people and their opinions in that thread are so fail.
Not really. A lot of people also dislike the album, but going out and saying they are stupid for it is quite embarrassing.Make sure to read that forum and see how classy Danny acts when there are negative opinions about the album :)
I kinda understand him though, most people and their opinions in that thread are so fail.
Flying just broke top 10 Anathema songs, I wonder where it'll stop.
And screw the haters, the new Anathema is easily better than Alternative 4, and slightly better than Judgement :) A Fine Day To Exit is definitely the worst recent album (well 'recent'). I wish they have played release live though, I do LOVE that song.
Flying just broke top 10 Anathema songs, I wonder where it'll stop.
And screw the haters, the new Anathema is easily better than Alternative 4, and slightly better than Judgement :) A Fine Day To Exit is definitely the worst recent album (well 'recent'). I wish they have played release live though, I do LOVE that song.
A fine day to exit > a natural disaster. =D
Flying just broke top 10 Anathema songs, I wonder where it'll stop.
And screw the haters, the new Anathema is easily better than Alternative 4, and slightly better than Judgement :) A Fine Day To Exit is definitely the worst recent album (well 'recent'). I wish they have played release live though, I do LOVE that song.
A fine day to exit > a natural disaster. =D
What about if you imagine Lee isn't on AND?
"Because it's got Lee Douglas on it"
Why is A Natural Disaster so low?! :angry:
Could be something I said :p.Quote"Because it's got Lee Douglas on it"
Sorry, that's not my line :facepalm:
What is Serenades like?
Why do people rate Silent Enigma and Eternity so low? I think they massively atmospheric albums.
I swear Vinnie does sing, else who is doing the clean vocals on Serenades?
I heard an insturmental version of the Silent Enigma somewhere and I can't remember where I got it from. It's not on the CDs I have so where on earth did I hear it? I'm thinking some casette version.
Yes and Sleepless 96 but I can't remember owning the reissue so maybe it was on a vinyl version?I heard an insturmental version of the Silent Enigma somewhere and I can't remember where I got it from. It's not on the CDs I have so where on earth did I hear it? I'm thinking some casette version.
Do you mean the orchestral-version?
Cause that one is instrumental, and you can find it on the reissue of The Silent Enigma. :P
Im spinning We're Here....
I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.
Im spinning We're Here....
I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.
Im spinning We're Here....
I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.
Why are you comparing alt rock to prog rock?
Im spinning We're Here....
I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.
Why are you comparing alt rock to prog rock?
Im spinning We're Here....
I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.
Why are you comparing alt rock to prog rock?
there's a difference?....I'd lump these guys in with Karnivool as well....and again...not quite as tight musically. Sorry...if I'm genre blending here....they all seem pretty similar to me.
Though being 2 completely different bands, i'd say i love Anathema more then Riverside.
I kinda stopped listening to this album when RSOne came out. Now that I got it on CD, I'm addicted to it again.
Damn, I wanted to like that album so much. It's been on my most anticipated list for years and when it finally came out I couldn't care less. Can't connect with it on any level, which is weird because listening to Anathema albums has always been an amazing musical and emotional journey for me.
I envy you guys so much :( Any specific reason you like it so much compared to their other albums?
Damn, I wanted to like that album so much. It's been on my most anticipated list for years and when it finally came out I couldn't care less. Can't connect with it on any level, which is weird because listening to Anathema albums has always been an amazing musical and emotional journey for me.
I envy you guys so much :( Any specific reason you like it so much compared to their other albums?
GTFO EVERYTHING DREAMING LIGHT AND ANGELS WALK AMONG US IS THE BEST RUN OF THE ALBUM
GTFO EVERYTHING DREAMING LIGHT AND ANGELS WALK AMONG US IS THE BEST RUN OF THE ALBUM
Depends totally on what side of the band you like, i guess you're one of the softies. :biggrin:
GTFO EVERYTHING DREAMING LIGHT AND ANGELS WALK AMONG US IS THE BEST RUN OF THE ALBUM
Depends totally on what side of the band you like, i guess you're one of the softies. :biggrin:
Well Pulled Under used to be my fav song so not really
Well now it's probably One Last Goodbye, that's kinda heavy...right? :blush
Well now it's probably One Last Goodbye, that's kinda heavy...right? :blushHurrah. Still my favorite Anathema song.
Well now it's probably One Last Goodbye, that's kinda heavy...right? :blushHurrah. Still my favorite Anathema song.
Why would they?
They're better at what they do now whereas when they were an out and out metal band they were a bit like a poor man's Paradise Lost imho
Why would they?
They're better at what they do now whereas when they were an out and out metal band they were a bit like a poor man's Paradise Lost imho
I thought they were powerful and distinctive and preferred them over Paradise Lost. PL's lyrics seemed very convoluted whereas Anathema had some depth and clarity to them.
They only wrote metal songs until around 1994 then they went into some weird dance music phase until clawing back what they arguably shouldn't have left in the early 2000s. Anathema kept with metal arguably until Judgement. God knows what happened to them. I don't dislike their music now, just think that they were a quality and unique metal band who have seem to have abandoned the genre.Why would they?
They're better at what they do now whereas when they were an out and out metal band they were a bit like a poor man's Paradise Lost imho
I thought they were powerful and distinctive and preferred them over Paradise Lost. PL's lyrics seemed very convoluted whereas Anathema had some depth and clarity to them.
But PL wrote better metal songs.
They only wrote metal songs until around 1994 then they went into some weird dance music phase until clawing back what they arguably shouldn't have left in the early 2000s. Anathema kept with metal arguably until Judgement. God knows what happened to them. I don't dislike their music now, just think that they were a quality and unique metal band who have seem to have abandoned the genre.Why would they?
They're better at what they do now whereas when they were an out and out metal band they were a bit like a poor man's Paradise Lost imho
I thought they were powerful and distinctive and preferred them over Paradise Lost. PL's lyrics seemed very convoluted whereas Anathema had some depth and clarity to them.
But PL wrote better metal songs.
How is it that We're Here Because We're Here keeps sounding better each time that I listen to it?As much as I'd rather sit here and sulk about how they've gone soft and happy, I do have to agree with you. The album is growing on me, and rather quickly at that.
If I loved WHBWH, then what other Anathema albums would I like?
I just listened to We're Here... again. I still can't believe how amazing this album is. The only song I don't love is 'Get off, Get out' but even that song is growing on me.
Same, but with Dreaming Light instead of Get off Get Out. :>
Guys, why does the Make Right (F.F.S.) have the keyboard sound that sounds so Dream Theatre Awake-era that it's scary?Probably because Kevin Moore.
Nice to see people getting into Anathema more :) Try to see them live if you can, great stuff.
I find it interesting that apparently Lady Gaga is more popular here than Anathema.
This is rapidly growing to be one of my favorite bands at the moment. Thanks TheVoxyn :tup:tup
I'm just now starting to like the latest album. It's probably the only album I didn't like immediately.
I'm just now starting to like the latest album. It's probably the only album I didn't like immediately.
Really?
Was pretty much the opposite for me. :biggrin:
I had to listen to Judgement at least 9-10 times before it clicked.
I'm currently sitting in the train on my way to Anathema. I really cannot wait to hear Dreaming Light.
Nothing from Silent Enigma or even Eternity then?I guess not.
Dear god, what a setlist. :hefdaddyAre You There and Empty are awesome :O. I especially wouldn't want to miss Are You There. Danny playing it acoustic is amazing. I was so happy when he came on stage and did that song, I wasn't expecting them to make the setlist even longer.
Though, if i COULD switch it around, i would probably do this:
Out:
Destiny is Dead
Empty
Are You There?
In:
Regret
Underworld
A Fine Day to Exit
Something from The Silent Enigma would've been ace too, maybe the title-track. ;)
I downloaded Judgement from itunes last night.
Holy effin shit. That has to be one of the most depressing, darkest, emotional, melancholy, gloomy albums ever made. Naturally, I loved it.
Been listening to Hindsight [Album] over the last weeks. It might be the best re-recorded songs compilation ever made. EVAR.:tup :tup
https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9 (https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9)Good read :tup.
Anathema live review I did for Stereoboard.com
https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9 (https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9)all of WHBWH and the opening suite of Judgement? god damn!
Anathema live review I did for Stereoboard.com
Epic stuff. My main man and favourite producer Christer André Cederberg is currently in the Studio producing my favorites ANATHEMA - official band page next album or ep or what comes out of it. I can't wait to hear the result!
Petter Carlsen (who opened for Anathema last tour) just posted this on facebook:QuoteEpic stuff. My main man and favourite producer Christer André Cederberg is currently in the Studio producing my favorites ANATHEMA - official band page next album or ep or what comes out of it. I can't wait to hear the result!
There were already messages of a new EP around the time WHBWH came out, but this seems to confirm that there is something on the way :).
I actually do think Judgement is their best album. It's just so perfectly depressing
They're equally good in quality(that is, fuckin' amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing), but I like depressing music more than happy music.I actually do think Judgement is their best album. It's just so perfectly depressing
I agreed before WHBWH
They're equally good in quality(that is, fuckin' amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing), but I like depressing music more than happy music.I actually do think Judgement is their best album. It's just so perfectly depressing
I agreed before WHBWH
Judgement easily stands out to me as their best album and my favorite. It's just filled with so much darkness and emotion. Evey song is heart-wrenching.
Anyone Anywhere :heart :heart :heart :heart :heartJudgement easily stands out to me as their best album and my favorite. It's just filled with so much darkness and emotion. Evey song is heart-wrenching.
One Last Goodbye :heart
THE FLOW MANGWell, all of Anathema's albums have god-tier flow(at least the non-doom metal ones), but AND especially.
THE FLOW MANGWell, all of Anathema's albums have god-tier flow(at least the non-doom metal ones), but AND especially.
Yeah but A4, Judgement, AND and WHBWH are all amazing albums even without the flow.THE FLOW MANGWell, all of Anathema's albums have god-tier flow(at least the non-doom metal ones), but AND especially.
The Silent Enigma has just as good flow as the following albums though.
So you're saying that The Silent Enigma and A Fine Day to Exit aren't just as good as those albums?They might be as good, but I like them less
I lol'd. :)
So you're saying that The Silent Enigma and A Fine Day to Exit aren't just as good as those albums?
I lol'd. :)
I'm not waiting 7 years for the next album, hurry up guys!This. They make nothing but amazing albums
It does have one of Anathema's best songs though.
It does have one of Anathema's best songs though.
Sleepless?
Haven't picked up Judgement :/ I'm still reeling at We're Here Because We're Here. Has now easily made it into my top 10 albums of all time. Where the fuck have I been?! What an incredible band. :hefdaddyIMO, Judgement is just a bit better than WHBWH, but yeah, both albums are a-fucking-mazing and god tier. Actually, all albums by Anathema are.
Lame? I've got four words for you: Anneke van-fucking-Giersbergen!Naw girl, I'm still excited for this release. It's my own fault for getting my hopes up for new material, anyway, but that's what I was hoping for. I meant lame in a general sense, not lame as in, "Oh, lame, Anathema."
Well, they did promise that we won't have to wait 50 years again for another -new- album. Here's hoping for 2012!Lame? I've got four words for you: Anneke van-fucking-Giersbergen!Naw girl, I'm still excited for this release. It's my own fault for getting my hopes up for new material, anyway, but that's what I was hoping for. I meant lame in a general sense, not lame as in, "Oh, lame, Anathema."
I'm sure I'll befappinglistening to this album extensively.
Closer, Violence <3 <3 <3This, i got no idea why you consider these songs, especially Violence, as filler, ?.
I think Violence should've ended at the 5-minute mark, the last 5 minutes of it aren't interesting. And Closer is a bit repetitve and they could've used less vocoder in it.
Fan for life, no doubt. Gig was amazing.I know right. I've seen them three times (last time was for the WHBWH tour) and all three times I was blown away by their awesomeness. Glad you enjoyed it :laugh:.
Fan for life, no doubt. Gig was amazing.I know right. I've seen them three times (last time was for the WHBWH tour) and all three times I was blown away by their awesomeness. Glad you enjoyed it :laugh:.
Kscope is pleased to announce Falling Deeper, the new, fully orchestral album from Anathema. Falling Deeper continues where the acclaimed 2008 album Hindsight left off. The album features brand new arrangements of songs and haunting melodies from the band’s earliest days as pioneers of heavy music.
This is an album which will excite old and new Anathema fans equally. A fresh musical and lyrical approach has transformed songs such as Crestfallen, Kingdom, Sunset Of Age and Everwake, which features the incredible voice of Anneke van Giersbergen.
The record has been produced by Daniel Cavanagh and was recorded and mixed by Andrea Wright at the legendary Parr St Studios, Liverpool (where the likes of Elbow, Coldplay and Echo and the Bunnymen have also recorded albums). The orchestral arrangements are from Dave Stewart who worked so successfully with Anathema on We’re Here Because We’re Here.
Released in 2010, We're Here Because We're Here was awarded Classic Rock’s Prog Album of the Year as well as a host of other accolades.
Formed in Liverpool in 1990, the band’s sound and musical vision has continually evolved while always remaining true to the band’s original goal of creating forward-thinking, meaningful, passionate, and honest music. With each release they moved beyond the boundaries of limited scenes and pigeon holes, creating a complex and emotive atmospheric sound. The producer of WHBWH, Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree), has described it as “definitely among the best albums I’ve ever had the pleasure to work on.”
1. Crestfallen / Sleep In Sanity
2. Kingdom
3. They Die
4. Sunset of Age
5. Everwake
6. We The Gods
7. I Made A Promise
8. Alone
Quad, we are avatar/sig buddies :-*.:heart
Montage for "Falling Deeper", released on Kscope's soundcloud:Reposting this on new page
https://soundcloud.com/kscopemusic/anathema-falling-deeper-album-montage
Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?Yes you can and you'd be correct
Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?I first heard this song today and I was incredibly mindblown. Is there anything from them along those lines, I'm looking for some specific tunes, not an album. I need some songs to sink into their beautiful melancholic music and get into them.
Montage for "Falling Deeper", released on Kscope's soundcloud:Sounds promising! :tup However, I'm disappointed at the track lengths, some songs are about half shorter than the originals!
https://soundcloud.com/kscopemusic/anathema-falling-deeper-album-montage
Angels Walk Among Us is another song from that same album that I think is just absolutely beautiful. Seriously just listen to that whole album, We're here because we're here. It has a lot of songs that are beautiful and uplifting, and I don't think you'll find much stuff like it in their previous albums (Atleast from the ones I've heard)Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?I first heard this song today and I was incredibly mindblown. Is there anything from them along those lines, I'm looking for some specific tunes, not an album. I need some songs to sink into their beautiful melancholic music and get into them.
Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?I first heard this song today and I was incredibly mindblown. Is there anything from them along those lines, I'm looking for some specific tunes, not an album. I need some songs to sink into their beautiful melancholic music and get into them.
Some emotional and beautiful Anathema tunes I can recommend:Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?I first heard this song today and I was incredibly mindblown. Is there anything from them along those lines, I'm looking for some specific tunes, not an album. I need some songs to sink into their beautiful melancholic music and get into them.
I wouldn't say that The Silent Enigma has grunts, after all it is Vinny singing.i was listening to "Restless Oblivion" today, he is grunting.
The Silent Enigma as a whole is a masterpiece album, the only one I don't like that much would be Serenades, the rest of the discography is gold.
So, obviously the greatest part of We're Here Because We're Here is when the man keeps on repeating "life is a turtle" :neverusethis:
I really like his voice, it sounds very nice. And somehow what he says feels really... convincing to me even though I'm not exactly a big optimist.So, obviously the greatest part of We're Here Because We're Here is when the man keeps on repeating "life is a turtle" :neverusethis:
I just can't stand that guy. I really wish he wasn't there, because in my opinion he sticks out like a sore thumb on what would otherwise be a flawless record.
Why wouldn't you buy it?Because retarded record labels are taking their stuff off Spotify. I pay for Spotify premium and was all ready to go and buy the album anyway because I liked it so much, whereas now I feel less inclined to do so and give all my money to the label. I'd much rather go and see them live (which I did at HV and will do again when they next play) and give THEM my money.
Zanteras avatar is so pretty.
I'm quite the Anathema-collector myself, the only "official" releases I can think of that I still need would be: Crestfallen EP, Resonance (1 and 2) and A Moment in Time (DVD).Crestfallen is ok, but I totally understand why they left those songs off Serenades, they are heavier and not as good (although And I Lust makes me :metal). Everwake is beautiful, though. I have the release which features Pentecost III on the same disc; I don't get it why Peaceville decided to include the 7" versions of Crestfallen and They Die instead of their respective versions from the original Crestfallen EP, the quality is horrible. The only DVD I have is A Vision of a Dying Embrace. Looking at the tracklistings of the 2 Resonance compilations, they don't look worth buying. Apart from Horses (which is 1 minute long) and the original version of Lovelorn Rhapsody, I have all those songs. Maybe someone who doesn't own the reissues of the first 4 albums could find them worth buying.
So have we discussed the song from Falling Deeper that Kscope released as a digital download yet? It's really good.Kingdom? Yeah, I like it! Drastically different, though. I had a hard time recognising any melody from the original version at first. The original was 9½ minutes long and drags on a little so it's good that this version is much shorter. Most bands would just change the arrangement or play the song as it was originally, but I like how Anathema had the guts to do something totally different! :tup
I still need to listen to the first three, but when they played Sleepless and A Dying Wish live, I enjoyed it a lot and I think I'm definitely going to like the early albums too.I'm sure you'll enjoy The Silent Enigma and Eternity, don't know about Serenades; Sleepless is the most melodic song on the album (not counting the short interludes) and the rest are much heavier. But if you're used to death/doom you'll probably like it too.
I think the holy trinity of Anathema is Alternative 4, Judgement and WHBWH.Yeah definitely this.
when they played A Dying Wish live, I enjoyed it a lot
Anyone listened to Falling Deeper yet? I have yet to aquire it but it's getting a lot of praise. Can't wait to listen to it (and don't worry, I'll buy it as soon as I get back in the Netherlands ;)).
I'm not sure if it's actually legally out.Anyone listened to Falling Deeper yet? I have yet to aquire it but it's getting a lot of praise. Can't wait to listen to it (and don't worry, I'll buy it as soon as I get back in the Netherlands ;)).
Didn't think it was out for another week or two, but I'll check it out!
Apart from Horses (which is 1 minute long) and the original version of Lovelorn Rhapsody, I have all those songs. Maybe someone who doesn't own the reissues of the first 4 albums could find them worth buying.
Horses isn't on the version I have - there's no hidden track after Memento Mori and the hidden track after They Die is 666, which I have on the Serenades reissue too (as part of Nailed to the Cross).Apart from Horses (which is 1 minute long) and the original version of Lovelorn Rhapsody, I have all those songs. Maybe someone who doesn't own the reissues of the first 4 albums could find them worth buying.
"Horses" is actually the quiet track before "666" on Pentecost III (hidden after the last song) - unless they removed the hidden tracks, you should have it on the Crestfallen/Pentecost release!
It's like the eyeballs of Jesus.
I'm not sure if this is a more amazing comparison than milking a cow...
Haven't heard it yet. WHBWH was kinda bland though, so I can't say I'm terribly interested.
Disagree so much. I think it's a classic.
WHBWH is a good enough album, but it hasn't aged well.
Disagree so much. I think it's a classic.
Disagree so much. I think it's a classic.
The album was released today anyway. umadbro.jpg(https://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50355_41035182344_6759018_n.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falling_deeperAw fuck, and now I'm listening to it thinking yesterday was the release date. Oh, well...
Release date: 5 September 2011
This is the first time Wikipedia has ever let me down.
First review of the new album on sputnik. https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/45456/Anathema-Falling-Deeper/
Alternative 4 is my favorite album of theirs:tup Same here!
Unlike A Natural Disaster, which is #1 and isn't going anywhere. And has probably my all-time favourite song, which is strange enough because hardly ever my favourite songs are instrumentals...A Natural Disaster is their best for me currently. And if you're talking about Violence, you're right. It's pretty much one of the best songs ever made IMO.
Haven't heard it yet. WHBWH was kinda bland though, so I can't say I'm terribly interested.
Exactly... It's just as strong experience every single time I listen to it.Unlike A Natural Disaster, which is #1 and isn't going anywhere. And has probably my all-time favourite song, which is strange enough because hardly ever my favourite songs are instrumentals...A Natural Disaster is their best for me currently. And if you're talking about Violence, you're right. It's pretty much one of the best songs ever made IMO.
A Natural Disaster is indeed #1, and also the loneliest album I've ever heard. Do not listen when sad :PFor me it definitely is the album to listen to when sad...
It is with regret and sadness that Anathema announce they have parted company with keyboardist Les Smith due to creative and musical differences.
All of us including Les tried our best to make the partnership work for many years through hard work together, but it was felt there was always a difficulty and the creative process was just not working. Sadly the split was inevitable.
Great respect and thanks is due to Les for all his tireless work behind the scenes for the band. It has been a very difficult few months for everyone concerned as Les is a unique character and is still much loved by all in the band. You will have noticed that Daniel Cardoso has been performing in concerts over the festival season as a live player, but the writing and recording line up will remain the nucleus of the band as it always was.
We all wish Les the very, very best for the future.
The split with les was really really painful and almost ended anathema permanently
You'll never be able to know the full story but I'm still dreaming at night and wondering about this every day
it's going to take months and months for anathema to recover from this and I'm very sorry for thus unfolding of our lives
I think I listened to Judgment a while ago, but I don't remember it. Anyway, with the new album coming out I figured I'd just jump headfirst into these guys, so I ordered Judgment, WHBWH, and the new album.
Sucks to hear about the keyboardist.
Guitarist/singer Vincent Cavanagh of the U.K. atmospheric rock band ANATHEMA has told Greece's Rock Overdose web site that the band is in the studio recording 14 songs for its next studio album, which is tentatively due in April 2012.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163261
audio avaliable in that blabbermouth location.
I can't possibly rank them to be honest, WHBWH, Judgement, The Silent Enigma, A Natural Disaster, A Fine Day to Exit and Alternative 4 all have the potential to be my favorite, add to that Eternity which is fantastic as well.Still my favourite i'd say.
I am absolutely in love with Falling Deeper :heart
I think Anathema should just focus on writing a new album since as they made us wait so long for WHBWH.
It better have Wilson mixing again though.
A DYING WISHADW rules! :metal But the guys of the band didn't feel that song worked in an orchestral setting: https://www.rockpages.gr/detailspage.aspx?id=6186&type=1&lang=EN
they really should've done that song on Falling Deeper.
So... how 'bout that Alternative 4 album (The Brink, not the Anathema one)? Pretty kick ass, imo. It's like a continuation of the '98 masterpiece.Reminds me of the A4 title track... Alternative 4 is my favorite Anathema album, maybe I should give this album a listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OxrnU2TKC8
This was linked from the official band's Facebook account, btw.
Danny played a new Anathema song (Untouchable) at an acoustic show in Russia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTJTyKR2_8&feature=youtu.be:caffeine:
Sounds promising! :caffeine:
With pride and overjoy I can announce that I'm doing backing vocals on the first two tracks on ANATHEMA - official band page 's upcoming album! I've been a huge fan for many years, and this is very inspiring to me! Fuel on the fire! Yesch!!! ♥
:omg:
That is fantastic! Cannot wait!
Hope you guys are glad I pimped them out so much here, think I am responsible for quite some listeners from here :millahhhh
I'm a new fan...I've only heard WHBWH, but I love it. I'm really looking forward to this.
down low, bro, i guess you didnt see it
o_
Ok, good.
Good to see you!
The play of opposites; light and shade, birth and death, love and fear. The simple truths of life and loss, hope and strength and darker internal themes are all explored here.Looks like it'll be (slightly) darker than WHBWH; fine for me, Alternative 4 and Judgement are my 2 favorite albums and they're very melancholic!
Maybe I should get around to checking out WHBWH so I can listen to this. I have every album from Alternative 4 through A Natural Disaster, but I never bothered to check it out because their music isn't really the style/tone I've been digging recently. And, to be honest, the moment Steven Wilson's name was attached to it, my interest in it quartered.DUDE listen to it at once! it is one of the greatest albums of all time, by anybody!
Maybe I should get around to checking out WHBWH so I can listen to this. I have every album from Alternative 4 through A Natural Disaster, but I never bothered to check it out because their music isn't really the style/tone I've been digging recently. And, to be honest, the moment Steven Wilson's name was attached to it, my interest in it quartered.
Maybe I should get around to checking out WHBWH so I can listen to this. I have every album from Alternative 4 through A Natural Disaster, but I never bothered to check it out because their music isn't really the style/tone I've been digging recently. And, to be honest, the moment Steven Wilson's name was attached to it, my interest in it quartered.
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING
New song available for free download https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIQGpl0NiYSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT NIGGA
Haha, a good description! :lol It does give me an A4 vibe in its intensity and the strong role of piano. Can't wait to hear the full album!New song available for free download https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIQGpl0NiYSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT NIGGA
THAT WAS GOOD
Sounds like if a song of WHBWH and a song from Alternative 4 had a child. AND IT'S AWESOME
I'm not going to listen to the new song, because I don't want to spoil the album experience.
One thing I can say however, is that I am really excited about this album, possibly my most anticipated album of the year.
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING
Album is up for preorder here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/) and you can listen to the song that's been circulating too.
Doesn't look like this one's coming with a 5.1 mix unfortunately.
Nice.Album is up for preorder here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/) and you can listen to the song that's been circulating too.
Doesn't look like this one's coming with a 5.1 mix unfortunately.
Yes it is.
https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/222/3621/
Nice.Album is up for preorder here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/) and you can listen to the song that's been circulating too.
Doesn't look like this one's coming with a 5.1 mix unfortunately.
Yes it is.
https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/222/3621/
Totally missed that part.
Yeah, I don't think so either.Nice.Album is up for preorder here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/) and you can listen to the song that's been circulating too.
Doesn't look like this one's coming with a 5.1 mix unfortunately.
Yes it is.
https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/222/3621/
Totally missed that part.
I don't think that was originally mentioned, so I am VERY happy to hear it will be released in 5.1 :caffeine:
From Anathema's wiki page:What's funnier is the bit: "...marking Anathema's complete shift from the doom metal genre, focusing instead on slower and more experimental songs." Doom metal is pretty slow already! :lol
(https://puu.sh/kf8a)
That pretty much sums it up. :lol
Edit: it has come to my attention that I'm retarded. I misread that as themes of depression and depression and thought the redundancy was fitting. :lol
you can stay up to date (on Anathema, at least) with ShadowsDance.com (https://shadowsdance.com)!
From Anathema's wiki page:
(https://puu.sh/kf8a)
That pretty much sums it up. :lol
Edit: it has come to my attention that I'm retarded. I misread that as themes of depression and depression and thought the redundancy was fitting. :lol
This album is :omg: I know it's a bit premature, but I'm calling album of the year right now.
Me and Ryan called this "album of the year" two years ago.Looks like you guys were right on the money :laugh:
MUST.... WAIT... UNTIL APRIL.... PLEASE.... AAAAGGGGGHHHH!!!
It's another solid album that's for sure.
Hard to say if it's better than WHBWH just yet. A couple of songs don't quite do it for me (Sunlight/Internal Landscapes)
Lightning Song is perhaps the most uplifting 5 minute song ever recorded.
I'd like to see them go a bit heavier at times, it has to be said.
It's another solid album that's for sure.
Hard to say if it's better than WHBWH just yet. A couple of songs don't quite do it for me (Sunlight/Internal Landscapes)
Lightning Song is perhaps the most uplifting 5 minute song ever recorded.
I'd like to see them go a bit heavier at times, it has to be said.
I know, but I mean their newer stuff. Just a litte bit, at least.
The Silent Enigma and Serenades exist for that. :biggrin:
Yeah, you have a very good point with your argument. The members who had a heavier influence aren't really there anymore, and if we look at how Anathema has evolved, adding a heavier touch would almost be like regressing in sound. It's interesting if we compare PT and Anathema, because PT started out more soft, and their last couple of albums have been much more heavy sounding, meanwhile Anathema is pretty much the opposite. Anathema now is very uplifting, atmospheric and positive, and I have no idea how they could incorporate heavier riffs into that, I don't really know if heaviness would work with atmospheric/positive/uplifting.
Alright, I concede. Lightning Song is the best song of 2012 so far.
I want to take a deep dive into this band, where shall I start?
I do not prefer to start with their doom/gothic stuff.
I want to take a deep dive into this band, where shall I start?
I do not prefer to start with their doom/gothic stuff.
WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE HERE
I don't quite get the fuzz over Lightning Song so far, but again I've only heard the album 3 times so far. On the other hand, Dreaming Light isn't one of my favorites on WHBWH either, so I guess different opinions exist.
I'd say Lost Child and the Untouchable-songs are my favorites so far.
I've listened to the new album 12 times so far. I think I may like it just as much as WHBWH, if not a little more. Lightening Song is definitely my favorite. I can't stop listening to it.
I want to take a deep dive into this band, where shall I start?A Fine Day To Exit
I do not prefer to start with their doom/gothic stuff.
I want to take a deep dive into this band, where shall I start?Judgement or Alternative 4
I do not prefer to start with their doom/gothic stuff.
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING
AOTY
Weather Systems is great, but I don't think it's my AOTY now, and looking at some of the releases later this year, it might be hard for it to end up in the top5/10-region.
To be fair I've heard it 9 times now, and I still think it's a bit underwhelming. It's impossible not to compare it to WHBWH (for obvious reasons) and I don't feel like any of the songs on Weather Systems are good enough to be placed on WHBWH. Maybe the Untouchable-songs, but while the rest on Weather Systems is great, I don't think any of the songs are Universal/Hindsight/Thin Air-awesome.Weather Systems is great, but I don't think it's my AOTY now, and looking at some of the releases later this year, it might be hard for it to end up in the top5/10-region.
I think you just need some more time with the album, it's as good as WHBWH in my opinion, after like 15+ listens.
So I've had WHBWH and Falling Deeper, but I'd never gotten around to listening to WHBWH until today. Holy fuck. That's all. Can't wait to pick up their other albums and Weather Systems.
The first 5 songs are amazing. From them on... Uh, it's okay but doesn't keep up (Except from Internal Landscapes and TBATE. It's strange, I got on to Sunlight the first time I heard it and I think it's amazing unlike what some people have said before.
I need to listen to it again, but I definitely think the first half of the album is wayyy better.
Is weather Systems out? In the US, it comes out the 24th I think...No, but it has leaked (haven't listened to the leak myself).
...But it also has Get off, Get Out, which many people consider the weakest song. I agree that Universal and especially ASM are awesome but I haven't found Hindsight that excellent.I need to listen to it again, but I definitely think the first half of the album is wayyy better.
Interesting, second half has Universal, Hindsight and A Simple Mistake. (generally regarded three of the best songs on the album) :P
Falling Deeper above Weather Systems? SADFACE. I love all of their stuff, though, so it's okay :coolio
Falling Deeper above Weather Systems? SADFACE. I love all of their stuff, though, so it's okay :coolio
I think he's done it chronologically.. Although I'd probably put A Natural Disaster at the top myself (Weather Systems pre-order hasn't arrived yet).
Falling Deeper above Weather Systems? SADFACE. I love all of their stuff, though, so it's okay :coolio
I think he's done it chronologically.. Although I'd probably put A Natural Disaster at the top myself (Weather Systems pre-order hasn't arrived yet).
It was supposed to be a joke post but looking over it, it doesn't really come off quite that way, does it? :P OH WELL.
I got my copy of WS today. Cool stuff.
Christer-Andre Cederberg made quite the confusing 5.1 mix. Sometimes it is pretty good, others times it is quite bad.
I hope Steven is able to mix their next record or at least give some pointers to this new guy. Oh well....at least the Digibook is beautiful!
Jesus, I'm freaking addicted to Untouchable, Part 1.
Jesus, I'm freaking addicted to Untouchable, Part 1.
Tell me about it - Both parts are amazing :heart
Got my copy yesterday and I've listened to it once. It needs more listens and time to sink in, but right now my impression is that it's a good record, but I wish there was more variety - most songs rely on one theme that gets developed with a buildup and for that reason it's a bit exhaustive to listen to the full album at once. But who knows, maybe it'll end up being my favorite Anathema album after it has grown on me.
Wow, my first listen of the album just blew me away. I expected it would need some listens to grow, like WHBWH did, but it clicked right away. The only song that still feels a bit "meh" is " The Lost Child", right now my favourites are Untouchable part 1, The Gathering of the Clouds and The Storm Before The Calm.Yeah, I'm loving those songs too and "The Lost Child" is just kinda "there" right now.
The Lost Child really picks up in the second half of the song.
New album is pretty awesome, but not as good as the last one I think.
The Storm Before the Calm is the best them.
I'M GETTING COLDER!
How does it hold up against We're Here Because We're Here?I think it's better, but others here disagree.
Good insight ;):lol
How does it hold up against We're Here Because We're Here?I'd say its equally as great as WHBWH. Its kind of like a continuation of that album.
Good insight ;):lol
Well, I'm just saying that there's a diversity of opinions on it right now, though most seem to favor it being weaker than WHBWH.
Personally, I think the quality of WHBWH is vastly overblown. It's a good album, but I kinda start to lose interest during the last two tracks. WS, so far, has me hooked throughout.
What? No.Good insight ;):lol
Well, I'm just saying that there's a diversity of opinions on it right now, though most seem to favor it being weaker than WHBWH.
Personally, I think the quality of WHBWH is vastly overblown. It's a good album, but I kinda start to lose interest during the last two tracks. WS, so far, has me hooked throughout.
The last two tracks (Universal and Hindsight) are the best on the album. :O
^ :eek "Summernight Horizon" and "Thin Air" wish to have word with thee!Plus "A Simple Mistake."
You put Everything at the end?? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!
You put Everything at the end?? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!
Well in my defense I love the album a lot. So sadly one song has to end up last, I still really like Everything if that makes you feel any better, my dear. :heart
You know you can just search on google to help you out with that :P
You know you can just search on google to help you out with that :P
Nah I don't need to use sites myself, I just flick through your photos on facebook jimmybob :-*
I know this isn't the right place to ask you about this, but the mood feels just right..... What is it about Oceansize that turns you on so much?
I tend to change avatars after X amount of months to have something fresh, but I must admit that several people have pointed out their appreciation for that Portman-avatar. :)
Yes, I prefer it to the current one.
;D
I used to search all over the place for your posts so that I could have something to look at whilst fapping.
How often do these dudes get compared to Dredg? I've been listening to the new album and it seems very similar.
How often do these dudes get compared to Dredg? I've been listening to the new album and it seems very similar.
Never. I've never heard any similarities myself. :P
As for Weather Systems, it drops in quality after the first two songs for me. The rest is still great, but not as good as Untouchable.
So, where should I go from here?
So I got Weather Systems today. It has some really amazing songs and some songs that are just okay. I guess I'd put it on par with WHBWH.
Just got Weather Systems a few days ago; incredible. I'd never heard Anathema before---oh my god. I can't stop.
Anathema planning to make MORE music? :o
Furthermore, plans are being put in place to get back together with our invaluable and incredible musical partner, Christer Andre Cedeberg, to make more music, and the sounds being made are that we might plan something a little harder edged..
Taken from Danny's tour diary from their website
Just got Weather Systems a few days ago; incredible. I'd never heard Anathema before---oh my god. I can't stop.
As I'm sure you probably know by now, you need to check out We're Here Because We're Here.
Anathema planning to make MORE music? :oThey wrote loads of songs in the period between AND and WHBWH and some of them are still unreleased - one song, No One is Free, is on Youtube; maybe some of the unreleased stuff will end up on the next release. The mention about harder edge made me interested since Weather Systems is a bit too repetitive at times IMO and I'd like something more energetic.
Furthermore, plans are being put in place to get back together with our invaluable and incredible musical partner, Christer Andre Cedeberg, to make more music, and the sounds being made are that we might plan something a little harder edged..
Taken from Danny's tour diary from their website
What do you guys think the chances of Anathema doing a small U.S Tour with-in the next year are?
I saw that they are touring Europe until October, but I really hope they get over here sometime in 2013. Fingers Crossed.
What do you guys think the chances of Anathema doing a small U.S Tour with-in the next year are?
I saw that they are touring Europe until October, but I really hope they get over here sometime in 2013. Fingers Crossed.
Just returned from the show in Holland. Holy fuck that was good.
THIS BEAUTIFUL FEELING SOARS OVER THE SKIES MOVING THROUGH MY BODY OUT MY MINDTHIS IS FUCKING INSANE THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!!
IT RISES UP AND FLOODS MY BRAIN
AM I STILL HERE?THIS BEAUTIFUL FEELING SOARS OVER THE SKIES MOVING THROUGH MY BODY OUT MY MINDTHIS IS FUCKING INSANE THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!!
IT RISES UP AND FLOODS MY BRAIN
How does a doom metal band evolve into...this?
AS ONE WITH THE FEAR.AM I STILL HERE?THIS BEAUTIFUL FEELING SOARS OVER THE SKIES MOVING THROUGH MY BODY OUT MY MINDTHIS IS FUCKING INSANE THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!!
IT RISES UP AND FLOODS MY BRAIN
Late to the party, but these guys were submitted in my roulette and after four listens to the whole WHBWH album I feel confident in saying: Anathema are amazing. I'll have to purchase this album soonish, maybe even on vinyl since it would probably feel great in that medium.
What should I go for next? Weather Systems?
Umm I just saw theres a 5.1 edition of WHBWH, I might prefer that to the vinyl. I will check availability and prices for both formats and decide, and then I'll try WS and Judgement.5.1 version of WHBWH is available here. Cheapest place to buy it and this is the label's shop too!
Thanks!
Did they have one drummer playing all the songs at the show? On Weather Systems, they have a bunch of different band members playing drums for different songs.
And in the Weather Systems booklet they thank their "live musicians" and Jamie is one of them.Did they have one drummer playing all the songs at the show? On Weather Systems, they have a bunch of different band members playing drums for different songs.
Yeah John Douglas is the only drummer for the shows. I don't know why they kept changing musicians for Weather Systems, the same goes for the bassist. Jamie tours with them and he played on one song on the album, but its also strange how he wasn't in the promo pics they put up couple of months ago
Umm I just saw theres a 5.1 edition of WHBWH, I might prefer that to the vinyl. I will check availability and prices for both formats and decide, and then I'll try WS and Judgement.5.1 version of WHBWH is available here. Cheapest place to buy it and this is the label's shop too!
Thanks!
https://www.theomegaorder.com/ANATHEMA-Were-Here-Because-Were-Here-Special-Edition (https://www.theomegaorder.com/ANATHEMA-Were-Here-Because-Were-Here-Special-Edition)
This is going to be amazing.
I love Alternative 4 but I think Duncan Patterson is a little overrated (I'm not familiar with anything else he's done so it may be a bit unfair to call him overrated). He is a great songwriter but my favorite tracks are the 3 that Danny wrote - Fragile Dreams, Regret, and Inner Silence.
I love the Pink Floyd and Bad Religion covers on the reissue.
I love Alternative 4 but I think Duncan Patterson is a little overrated (I'm not familiar with anything else he's done so it may be a bit unfair to call him overrated). He is a great songwriter but my favorite tracks are the 3 that Danny wrote - Fragile Dreams, Regret, and Inner Silence.
I guess overrated isn't the right word to use but a lot of fans seem to think that he's a god and Anathema sucks without him.I love Alternative 4 but I think Duncan Patterson is a little overrated (I'm not familiar with anything else he's done so it may be a bit unfair to call him overrated). He is a great songwriter but my favorite tracks are the 3 that Danny wrote - Fragile Dreams, Regret, and Inner Silence.
Those three tunes are definitely highlights, but Empty and Lost Control are amazing as well. I don't think it's fair to call him overrated because he's pretty obscure.
I guess overrated isn't the right word to use but a lot of fans seem to think that he's a god and Anathema sucks without him.
I love Alternative 4 but I think Duncan Patterson is a little overrated (I'm not familiar with anything else he's done so it may be a bit unfair to call him overrated). He is a great songwriter but my favorite tracks are the 3 that Danny wrote - Fragile Dreams, Regret, and Inner Silence.I agree that those 3 songs Danny wrote are great, but Lost Control is my favorite Anathema song and Empty, Feel and the title-track are very good too. I also have all the Antimatter albums and Duncan has written some good stuff on those records too (for example Line of Fire, Relapse, Reality Clash and Flowers), although some of his compositions tend to drag on too long and TBH I prefer Mick Moss' songs.
Yeah, I guess it's like the situation with DT and Kevin Moore. However, I think the amount of newer Anathema fans who ignore Duncan's impact on the band is a bit bigger so it's not like he's THAT overrated. Alternative 4 is my favorite Anathema record and while Anathema haven't made an album as excellent since then (though Judgement and WHBWH come pretty close), they have managed to continue strong and had Duncan not left, we wouldn't have Antimatter so it was the best for both parties.I guess overrated isn't the right word to use but a lot of fans seem to think that he's a god and Anathema sucks without him.
I've only encountered one fan like that, but yeah, it tends to happen, especially if the band was at a creative peak.
I have their latest two, what album should I get next? I don't really care about what style of music it is or if it sounds like those two :p
I don't remember where I got the link from, but it was from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S6U01qU7Ho&t
Finally I got a chance to listen the Weather Systems which I found not good enough. Their music clearly starting to softer and softer. It sounds like WHBWH but new musics, that's all. Same vocal tone, same musical way.One of the Cavanaghs (forgot if it was Danny or Vinny) said in an interview that their next album is going to be heavier. I like the softer style of WS a lot but I'm glad that they're not going to keep going in the same direction.
It's good in its own but comparing to the previous albums it's so low in my list. This album gives positive energy somewhat. Vocals are restful just like the others. There is nothing special about arrangements. They are mostly alike.
My favoruite songs are: Internal Landscapes, Sunlight and Untouchable Pt 1 and 2.
Eternity is a flawed yet incredible album. Radiance is epic from the 3:12 mark to the end of the match. It's incredible. And that ending.agreed on all counts. Eternity's definitely got career highlights (the title track suite, "Angelica," and i quite like the re-recording of "Sleepless" that was a bonus track), but also career lowlights (i cannot stand their cover of "Hope," and otherwise there are some real energy suckers placed poorly throughout). i would argue it was Duncan Patterson's last stand, as all the songs i dislike on Alternative 4 were written by him (with the exception of the title track, which i quite like).
Finally I got a chance to listen the Weather Systems which I found not good enough. Their music clearly starting to softer and softer. It sounds like WHBWH but new musics, that's all. Same vocal tone, same musical way.One of the Cavanaghs (forgot if it was Danny or Vinny) said in an interview that their next album is going to be heavier. I like the softer style of WS a lot but I'm glad that they're not going to keep going in the same direction.
It's good in its own but comparing to the previous albums it's so low in my list. This album gives positive energy somewhat. Vocals are restful just like the others. There is nothing special about arrangements. They are mostly alike.
My favoruite songs are: Internal Landscapes, Sunlight and Untouchable Pt 1 and 2.
I can't see the comparison of WS and WHBWH at all. WS sounds vastly different to me - the only thing connecting them is that they are both 'happy', unlike previous albums. The musical content is very distinctly different between them.
Anyway, I want to post this interview with Duncan that I came across recently:Duncan may sound condescending but at least he's not a douche like his successor Dave Pybus was - just read these comments from Danny: https://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net//news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=2656
https://autumnsphere.blogspot.com/2012/01/interview-with-duncan-patterson.html?
Danny said on the Anathema forums that he appreciates Duncan's perspective, but in my opinion, he comes off as very condescending to the abilities of the other band members. I'm not going to deny that he's a great songwriter, and that he was the workhorse of Anathema for quite some time. But when you start acting like the band is running off of your fumes, you're just going to look like a douche.
Dave is a little weasel (to quote a member of CRADLE OF FILTH). who used ANATHEMA completely for his own ends. He spent 5 (five!) days in the studio during the entire time of the A Fine Day To Exit sessions (3 months altogether) he only did this for his own advantage, and he was really pissed off that he didn't get the same publishing royalties (songwriter's money) as the rest of the band, even though he stopped Duncan being paid, even though he hated us anyway, he never wanted Les to join the band, he never really liked any of the songs from the band (he pretended to like Judgement), he refused to write songs or become truly involved in the process, he would spread sh.t about ANATHEMA on the net, pretendind to be Vinny in the chat room on occasion! And he constantly complained about being in a band with bastards! And to top all this off, Vinny was begging him not to leave (at first), and didn't even want his own brother Jamie (genuine, talented, understanding bloke) to play in the band (at first, he has understood since then). Some people have no clue about what has actually been happening, and this includes some band members!
I've always been a bit surprised over the fact that Jamie hasn't been a full time member. They really have a nice thing going on, the three brothers are pretty close, and that is a nice foundation to build something on.Jamie has been an official member, at least until this year when he suddenly stopped appearing in promotional photos and only played bass on one song on WS. I remember Vincent saying in some intie that they felt they didn't need any other guys in the studio except himself, Danny and John (and Lee for the female vox)
Sure there are examples when brothers end up acting like jerks (*cough* Oasis) but I hardly doubt any of the Cavanagh's would backstab each other.
I can't see the comparison of WS and WHBWH at all. WS sounds vastly different to me - the only thing connecting them is that they are both 'happy', unlike previous albums. The musical content is very distinctly different between them.
Well, both album's musical way is mostly alike. The feeling can be changed, since WS is happy and WHBWH is not but energetic. Same vocal, same guitar tones, same arrangements. But I can say this album is a bit heavier.
I've listened to WHBWH twice now, not sure if I am going to buy any more of their discs if the back catalog is less and less like Weather Systems. From what I understand they get heavier and darker the further back you go, is that right?
I've listened to WHBWH twice now, not sure if I am going to buy any more of their discs if the back catalog is less and less like Weather Systems. From what I understand they get heavier and darker the further back you go, is that right?
Finally I got a chance to listen the Weather Systems which I found not good enough. Their music clearly starting to softer and softer. It sounds like WHBWH but new musics, that's all. Same vocal tone, same musical way.
It's good in its own but comparing to the previous albums it's so low in my list. This album gives positive energy somewhat. Vocals are restful just like the others. There is nothing special about arrangements. They are mostly alike.
My favoruite songs are: Internal Landscapes, Sunlight and Untouchable Pt 1 and 2.
Finally I got a chance to listen the Weather Systems which I found not good enough. Their music clearly starting to softer and softer. It sounds like WHBWH but new musics, that's all. Same vocal tone, same musical way.
It's good in its own but comparing to the previous albums it's so low in my list. This album gives positive energy somewhat. Vocals are restful just like the others. There is nothing special about arrangements. They are mostly alike.
My favoruite songs are: Internal Landscapes, Sunlight and Untouchable Pt 1 and 2.
FUCK WHAT I SAID!
This album grows amazingly. Just can't stop listening it. Their best work from their atmospheric progressive era.
Just ordered a combo set of (Judgement, a fine day to exit and natural disaster) so I can't wait for that to arrive.
I've gotten a lot of mileage out of WS, WHBWH and FD, so I'm really really excited to start working my way backwards.
Just ordered a combo set of (Judgement, a fine day to exit and natural disaster) so I can't wait for that to arrive.
I've gotten a lot of mileage out of WS, WHBWH and FD, so I'm really really excited to start working my way backwards.
From where? Amazon? I'm interested as well.
Plus, you will see the huge difference when you listen their older stuff. But they do well, really well.
I have gone back to Weather Systems several times. WHBWH has not really compelled me to listen more. I admit, though, that I have bought a TON of music lately that is competing with these for attention.
can you post pictures when you get it? i'm curious what they included and didn't, artwork-wise.
Listened to the new album during a long drive yesterday.
Beautiful...
i really don't think they're cross-references. "The Gathering of the Clouds" was written for WHBWH but left off, which is why the album title is from a lyric. the rest are either happenstance (the phrase "what you mean to me" in two Anathema songs is a cross-reference? really? that's a standard sappy lyric line, dude) or obviously unintentional (why would "Temporary Peace" intentionally have anything to do with Serenades? the lyrics don't support that just because they say the word!). the only one i see being possibly intentional is "Destiny is Dead" because Duncan was gone and it's instrumental, so the title could have been anything, yet they chose one that seems to reference the instrumental "Destiny" from A4. the rest is clearly crapshoot, imo.
i really don't think they're cross-references. "The Gathering of the Clouds" was written for WHBWH but left off, which is why the album title is from a lyric. the rest are either happenstance (the phrase "what you mean to me" in two Anathema songs is a cross-reference? really? that's a standard sappy lyric line, dude) or obviously unintentional (why would "Temporary Peace" intentionally have anything to do with Serenades? the lyrics don't support that just because they say the word!). the only one i see being possibly intentional is "Destiny is Dead" because Duncan was gone and it's instrumental, so the title could have been anything, yet they chose one that seems to reference the instrumental "Destiny" from A4. the rest is clearly crapshoot, imo.I'm pretty sure the "moment in time" reference in A Simple Mistake is intentional - it's like saying "we were depressed back then but not anymore". The funny thing is that Anathema have played both ASM and Shroud of False at the same show lots of times! :lol
in actual news, you can preorder Pentecost III for the first time on vinyl (https://www.burningshed.com/store/peaceville/product/261/3854) through Peaceville/Burning Shed now (release is in July). i think i'm gonna grab one — Pentecost is an underappreciated gem from their metal days and, imo, a perfect (if slower!) predecessor/companion to The Silent Enigma.Pentecost seems to be a "forgotten" release and it does have some good stuff - I don't know if this is a controversial opinion but the original We the Gods beats the Falling Deeper remake 100-0 IMO. I do prefer the new Kingdom to the original one, though. Mine is Yours is a great song as well although the video is weird and Memento Mori is probably one of the heaviest Anathema songs ever. I guess P3 was left with so little attention due to the fact that its release was delayed so much (the reason being the merging between Peaceville and Music for Nations) and by the time they finally put it out Darren had been fired already and a few months later they released The Silent Enigma which took away the attention from Pentecost.
edit: also, for musical references, the bridge in "Pitiless" is built from the chord progression in "Forgotten Hopes." does this really count when they are basically part of a suite, though? how do people see those opening 4 tracks of Judgement, anyway?At least I consider them a suite although Deep and Forgotten Hopes work well on their own as well; it's the flow between them and the fact that Anathema have played those 4 songs back-to-back live that makes me think they're like one series of songs.
it's probably just me, but I always feel like they are about to break into "Don't Fear the Reaper" during the chorus of "Deep"
I really like 'Dreaming Light'. How does that song measure up to the other stuff on the last two albums?
Two months of heavy Anathema listening later and Eternity has actually shaped up to be my favorite album. You have the one two punch of Sentient and Angelica, the addictive cover of Hope, and the rest of the album's just so cool, and spacey, and experimental. Suicide Veil is also an outstanding fusion of their doom metal and Pink Floydian sounds. Anyone else love Eternity?Yes, absolutely. 'Angelica' is probably one of my favorite songs. It's also interesting from the perspective of the band's evolution -- at this point Vincent decided to really sing in a conventional manner, and although his performance is technically unpolished, there's so much raw talent there waiting to be cultivated. And he did in fact take a big step on 'Alternative 4'.
Yes, absolutely. 'Angelica' is probably one of my favorite songs. It's also interesting from the perspective of the band's evolution -- at this point Vincent decided to really sing in a conventional manner, and although his performance is technically unpolished, there's so much raw talent there waiting to be cultivated. And he did in fact take a big step on 'Alternative 4'.
I got Eternity recently, and HOLY FUCK. These guys are good.
What should I get next?
I got Eternity recently, and HOLY FUCK. These guys are good.I highly recommend Alternative 4, Judgement and the latest 2 albums.
What should I get next?
While the songs on the EP may not be the peak of Anathema's career, they're 100 times better than Dreaming... IMO. But then again I'm not an ambient fan, I want something to actually happen in the songs! :PIt's kind of weird actually on the topic of Falling Deeper because in one interview Danny says they will play it and then in another he says they won't. Both interviews links are below.
On the topic of the DVD, I'm looking forward to it, I've heard they'll play some Falling Deeper stuff too and that would be great, especially since they have an orchestra with them.
While the songs on the EP may not be the peak of Anathema's career, they're 100 times better than Dreaming... IMO. But then again I'm not an ambient fan, I want something to actually happen in the songs! :P
It's kind of weird actually on the topic of Falling Deeper because in one interview Danny says they will play it and then in another he says they won't. Both interviews links are below.Interesting... Which one is newer? I bet he has (or they have) changed his mind between those 2 inties and if the latter one is new, there'll probably be FD stuff. Anyway, this makes me even more anxious to see the setlist when they play that gig!
https://tikwid.com/news/music/interviews/question-and-answers-with-anathema/ (https://tikwid.com/news/music/interviews/question-and-answers-with-anathema/)
(do you have a plan to release a live performance with orchestral band on DVD?
DC: Yes actually, we do! But it won’t be old songs such as songs in “Falling Deeper”. It would songs from you know, from “Judgment”, “Alternative4”, “A Natural Disaster”, “Weather Systems” and “We’re Here Because We’re Here”.)
https://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalnews.de%2Finterviews%2FDaniel%2BCavanagh%2Bvon%2BAnathema.1193.html (https://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalnews.de%2Finterviews%2FDaniel%2BCavanagh%2Bvon%2BAnathema.1193.html)
(In September we will answer even a DVD with the National Orchestra of Bulgaria, where we songs from "Weather Systems", "Falling Deeper", "We're Here Because We're Here" and a few older songs.)
Second interview is in German.
Check out this clip of Danny and Vincent (and Lee) performing 'Dreaming Light' on a BBC radio show:
https://youtu.be/KraSqBrv39c
Can Vince sing, or what?
Serenades (Lovelorn Rhapsody):tup for picking some other song than Sleepless! I mean, it's not bad but definitely the most overrated song on the album. I prefer at least They Die, Sleep in Sanity and Lovelorn Rhapsody to it. However, the '96 remake is pretty good as I find Darren's attempts at melodic harsh singing on the original pretty terrible (his growls aren't that bad, though) and obviously it's the only song from the album that fits their setlist nowadays, save maybe for the Falling Deeper versions, which haven't been played live.
Check out this clip of Danny and Vincent (and Lee) performing 'Dreaming Light' on a BBC radio show:
https://youtu.be/KraSqBrv39c
Can Vince sing, or what?
With Lovelorn Rhapsody, it's all about that harmonized guitar riff that starts at 1:59. 'They Die', 'Sleep In Sanity', and 'Crestfallen' all have cool riffs of this sort.Serenades (Lovelorn Rhapsody):tup for picking some other song than Sleepless! I mean, it's not bad but definitely the most overrated song on the album. I prefer at least They Die, Sleep in Sanity and Lovelorn Rhapsody to it.
Check out this clip of Danny and Vincent (and Lee) performing 'Dreaming Light' on a BBC radio show:
https://youtu.be/KraSqBrv39c
Can Vince sing, or what?
Yeah, those harmonized riffs are cool and make the songs you mentioned stand out better than Sleepless, which is more goth rock with shouted vocals than doom metal, in my eyes. I like doom metal a lot as well but I don't find Darren a great vocalist, unfortunately. His growls sound strained and his melodic vocals sound off-key IMO (not to say that Vincent wasn't off-key sometimes on Eternity and Silent Enigma).With Lovelorn Rhapsody, it's all about that harmonized guitar riff that starts at 1:59. 'They Die', 'Sleep In Sanity', and 'Crestfallen' all have cool riffs of this sort.Serenades (Lovelorn Rhapsody):tup for picking some other song than Sleepless! I mean, it's not bad but definitely the most overrated song on the album. I prefer at least They Die, Sleep in Sanity and Lovelorn Rhapsody to it.
The truth is that doom metal, of every sub-type, is probably my favorite kind of metal, so I'm happy to roll with this style. I even find Darren to be an above-average vocalist for this genre.
Giving it my first listen, such beautiful music, absolutely stunning.
Giving it my first listen, such beautiful music, absolutely stunning.
What did you listen to?
Giving it my first listen, such beautiful music, absolutely stunning.
What did you listen to?
Weather Systems
Giving it my first listen, such beautiful music, absolutely stunning.
What did you listen to?
Slayer
Alright. I need to check these guys out too. Any sugesstions for albums?
I feel the total opposite. I feel Weather Systems blows We're Here Because We're Hear out of the water. And to be honest I really didn't get into WHBWH until Weather Systems came out and I gave it another chance. Now I do see it as a great album, but Weather Systems is absolute stellar perfection.
Don't know if you guys know but they are recording a BluRay/DVD tonight.
(https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/280/884/685.jpg)Don't know if you guys know but they are recording a BluRay/DVD tonight.
Also, with an orchestra!
Don't know if you guys know but they are recording a BluRay/DVD tonight.YES! EPIC!
If there is a Blu Ray I'll be all over it.There will be a Blu-ray also.
I might be buying this. I read that the release date is set for 2013. Does anyone have more accurate insights on this?
Just listened to Weather Systems for the first time. Damn, it's beautiful. It's the only thing from Anathema I've heard so far. I hear great things about WHBWH :tup
I've recently listened to Hindsight for the first time. Is it a sort of compilation of rearranged songs, much like 1X:5 by Pain Of Salvation? (I can't remember the exact day)I don't know that PoS album, but Hindsight is indeed (for the most part) a compilation of rearranged songs, the main difference being that there are cnlose to no electric guitars and some strings are added instead. However, they did some changes to the songs (for example that eargasmic tremolo guitar part in Flying) and Unchained (the last song) is completely new.
err, folk? :lol i'd call them alternative rock looooong before i'd ever attach "folk" to their current sound.Overall, yeah definitely. There was a strong folk vibe on Falling Deeper though, more so than rock in my opinion.
Universal :heart
AotY for me still.
Does any Anathema fan NOT have WS as their AOTY?Yes. I just recently listened to WS again and while a very good album overall, it doesn't make my top 5 this year. Some of the songs are 10/10, but Sunlight still feels like a filler, TSBTC is like 2 songs glued together and many songs rely just on a few themes, which gives the album a kind of samey and repetitive feeling at times. What WS is missing is something more hard-edged like Summernight Horizon and the second half of A Simple Mistake on WHBWH.
Does any Anathema fan NOT have WS as their AOTY?Yes. I just recently listened to WS again and while a very good album overall, it doesn't make my top 5 this year. Some of the songs are 10/10, but Sunlight still feels like a filler, TSBTC is like 2 songs glued together and many songs rely just on a few themes, which gives the album a kind of samey and repetitive feeling at times. What WS is missing is something more hard-edged like Summernight Horizon and the second half of A Simple Mistake on WHBWH.
YES.
Anathema is going to play Weather Systems IN FULL next Sunday at the famous 013 in Tilburg.
The performance will be FILMED for a later BLU-RAY release. YES.
The awesome Long Distance Calling will be the support act.
I'LL BE THERE. Who's with me? :)
YES.
Anathema is going to play Weather Systems IN FULL next Sunday at the famous 013 in Tilburg.
The performance will be FILMED for a later BLU-RAY release. YES.
The awesome Long Distance Calling will be the support act.
I'LL BE THERE. Who's with me? :)
YES.I am. This is epic!!!
Anathema is going to play Weather Systems IN FULL next Sunday at the famous 013 in Tilburg.
The performance will be FILMED for a later BLU-RAY release. YES.
The awesome Long Distance Calling will be the support act.
I'LL BE THERE. Who's with me? :)
I was doubting but decided to get a ticket for Tilburg as well.
I'd be up for saying hi. But at the venue or beforehand since I need to catch a train (hope I can stay until the end :-X).I was doubting but decided to get a ticket for Tilburg as well.
See you there I guess?
Neither of them is, but BTBAM is much better. ;)
Swans is in my top 5, but it's not number 1. :P
I'd be up for saying hi. But at the venue or beforehand since I need to catch a train (hope I can stay until the end :-X).I was doubting but decided to get a ticket for Tilburg as well.
See you there I guess?
It was for a while, right now I feel comfortable about it being in my top 5 though. (out of the ~75 albums I've heard this year)
The top5 would be: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind, Swans - The Seer, Ancestors - In Dreams and Time, BTBAM - Future Sequence and the new GYBE.
Anathema would be around top25/top30.
pm'd you!I'd be up for saying hi. But at the venue or beforehand since I need to catch a train (hope I can stay until the end :-X).I was doubting but decided to get a ticket for Tilburg as well.
See you there I guess?
I need a train at the end as well, so there's no time for me then either. What do you propose? Because I suppose I could say hi beforehand or there :)
I also think WHBWH is better than WS. Stronger songs, more variety, less of the "every song has the same structure" and when that album came out the sound felt fresh, meanwhile WS is another album in the same style.
With that said I still think WS is a great album.
The only problem for me with The Storm Before the Calm is that it feels completely disjointed. I like both the first half and the second half of the song, but there's no connection between them IMO.Agreed, it suffers from The Ministry of Lost Souls syndrome.
I was especially bummed by failing equipment during A Simple Mistake (my favourite Anathema song)
Daniel Cardoso full time member now! Congrats!Congrats indeed! I thought they would continue without a full-time keyboardist, but it'll be interesting to see how the next album turns out - his involvement will probably shake things up a bit.
https://www.progrockmag.com/news/daniel-cardoso-joins-anathema-permanently/
Daniel Cardoso full time member now! Congrats!Great news! I was wondering when/if he would become an official member.
https://www.progrockmag.com/news/daniel-cardoso-joins-anathema-permanently/
I am just now, tonight, hearing Weather Systems for the first time....all I can say is "Oh my god"...this album is brilliant! This will not leave my player for the foreseeable future.
:hefdaddy
I was so impressed by Untouchable that I'm purchasing their entire catalog now, that single opener won me over.You're aware that their early works are quite a lot different from the new album, right? I think the doom metal albums are pretty good, but if you've bought them based on Untouchable, the style of those releases might come as a shock! :lol
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.
I couldn't agree more.
I was so impressed by Untouchable that I'm purchasing their entire catalog now, that single opener won me over.You're aware that their early works are quite a lot different from the new album, right? I think the doom metal albums are pretty good, but if you've bought them based on Untouchable, the style of those releases might come as a shock! :lol
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.
I couldn't agree more.
Well, I just bought it on Amazon. First disk by them for me. Can't wait to hear it.
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.
I have the most amazing story. I was yesterday in a record store, and I came across Weather Systems and I *loved* the cover and say a Steven Wilson sticker so I said...what the heck, and I bought it. I had never heard of Anathema before in my life, and this is one of the best things that could've happened to me in music right now. Absolutely magical.
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.
I couldn't agree more.
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.
I couldn't agree more.
I think the two biggest problems with Weather Sytems for me is that I had skyhigh expectations (which is partly my own fault) and the fact that it was preceded by WHBWH.
It's actually a pretty fantastic album, but I think WHBWH is slightly better. It was also more "fresh" when it came out, but Anathema have been doing this sound for a bit now (I'll include Falling Deeper), so WS wasn't as fresh or new. But still very good.
I kinda hope for a change on the next album though. Something different.
But with that said, I doubt the band will ever write something dark again, it's all light and positive now. :biggrin:That's quite likely, which is quite sad IMO, as I love Alternative 4 and Judgement the most, and those albums have some of their gloomiest songs.
I think the two biggest problems with Weather Sytems for me is that I had skyhigh expectations (which is partly my own fault) and the fact that it was preceded by WHBWH.I don't really agree with this at all, to be honest. Falling Deeper was a very different beast, and Weather Systems has a very strong individual identity as well (much more use of acoustic guitars than WHBWH).
It's actually a pretty fantastic album, but I think WHBWH is slightly better. It was also more "fresh" when it came out, but Anathema have been doing this sound for a bit now (I'll include Falling Deeper), so WS wasn't as fresh or new. But still very good.
I kinda hope for a change on the next album though. Something different.
(I must mention that I absolutely love the harmony vocals. They're utterly brilliant.)
Listening to Falling Deeper right now. Hadn't listened it in months. Love it even more than when I first heard it. How has it aged for you?I listened to it a couple of weeks ago and it has held up well, especially Crestfallen, Sleep In Sanity, and Sunset of Age. I still haven't heard any of the original versions of the songs though, so it'll be interesting to compare the 2 versions when I finally get around to getting the older albums.
is anyone else aware of the album Danny Cavanagh did with Anneke van Giersbergen? has a bunch of Anathema songs and some covers. just found it randomly now!I have it and its pretty good. As much as I love Lee Douglas' voice, I love the version of A Natural Disaster with Anneke singing.
Listening to Falling Deeper right now. Hadn't listened it in months. Love it even more than when I first heard it. How has it aged for you?It has aged well, what a great album.
Leafblade - Daniel Cavanagh and Daniel Cardosa from Anathema, plus Sean Jude and Kevin Murphy (both ex Valle Crucis) - create a powerful, yet subtle combination of lush symphonic atmospheres, anthemic refrains, potent guitar work and inventive percussion.https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/272/4664/
Valle Crucis were contemporaries of Anathema on the Liverpool music scene and Daniel was a long time admirer of the band. Leafblade - formed in 2003 - offered the musicians a chance to explore new sonic possibilities outside of their other band's remits.
Produced by Cavanagh, the band's Kscope label debut The Kiss Of Spirit And Flesh extends Leafblade's dynamic range and includes elaborate orchestration in addition to idiosyncratic lute-like nylon strings and unusual multi-range vocals.
Daniel feels that the album has found a natural home at Kscope, a label he has worked with extensively over the past few years and says, "The writing is absolutely top class and the Progressive nature of the music makes it very much part of Kscope's orbit."
He continues, "We feel the album is a special one thanks to the beautiful lyrics, superb arrangements and excellent musicianship. It should appeal to Anathema fans and Progressive fans alike."
Pre-order for 20th May release.
Tracks
1. Bethlehem
2. The Hollow Hills
3. Sunset Hypnos
4. Fuschia
5. Oak Machine
6. Thirteen
7. Beneath A Woodland Moon
8. Portrait
Now that my list is over, I can finally post this nice live clip of Lost Control that has a hilarious beginning :D"And now for something completely different"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9VPAvNc0Ng
I like how people start cheering right after Vincent has said "Life..." :) Don't like the off-key singing of the audience though :\Precisely. I stopped watching after the song began because the audience singing was way too loud.
I listened to Everything.....that song is the epitome of beautiful.
Anathema just announced a show with Alcest in October in a small venue in Oakland. :dangerwillrobinson:
Anathema just announced a show with Alcest in October in a small venue in Oakland. :dangerwillrobinson:I believe you, but do you have a link? I couldn't find any information anywhere. I hope this means that there will be a US tour!
Anathema just announced a show with Alcest in October in a small venue in Oakland. :dangerwillrobinson:I hope this means that there will be a US tour!
The Oakland Metro Opera House announced the show on their Facebook page.Thanks! I guess an official announcement will be coming soon then.
I'm hoping for a Boston date, which, if they do tour, will probably be a reality (whether or not the venue would be all ages is another question; I think most Boston venues tend to be 21+). I'll be in college in Massachusetts in the fall so it would be practically impossible for me to make it to NYC.
Am I imagining things or did they have a US tour scheduled a couple of years ago with Devin Townsend? I was new to Anathema and not yet a fan of Devin, so I wasn't planning on going. I seem to remember them dropping out though.
Tour is happening September/October. Anathema headlining!Have you heard any rumored dates besides Oakland? Sorry, but I'm so fucking excited about this and I can hardly wait for the official announcement!!!
Tour is happening September/October. Anathema headlining!Have you heard any rumored dates besides Oakland? Sorry, but I'm so fucking excited about this and I can hardly wait for the official announcement!!!
for those looking for a link for the Oakland, CA show
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152884594040195&id=209358445194
Today is the 15th anniversary of Alternative 4! I'm listening to the album right now and I can still safely say that it's my favorite Anathema release :hefdaddyI got all excited when I saw that this thread was bumped as I thought they finally released US tour dates. But anyway, Alternative 4 is a great album!
Anyone check out the live album?I'm waiting for the CD/DVD. I'd love to get the vinyl though but I'm not sure if it would be worth it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untouchable_(Anathema_album)
Today is the 15th anniversary of Alternative 4! I'm listening to the album right now and I can still safely say that it's my favorite Anathema release :hefdaddyThank you so fucking much btw. :biggrin:
You're so fucking welcome :biggrin:Today is the 15th anniversary of Alternative 4! I'm listening to the album right now and I can still safely say that it's my favorite Anathema release :hefdaddyThank you so fucking much btw. :biggrin:
Joint North American headlining tour with AnathemaI looked on the Boston venue's page, and most shows are 18+. I hope this one is all ages, as the show is only a few days before my 18th birthday. If not, then I guess I'll go to NYC the day before. Either way, I NEED to see this show.
In September/October 2013 Alcest will take a break from the works on their upcoming fourth album to embark on a double-headlining USA and Canada tour with the masters of atmospheric rock, Anathema.
This is what Neige has to say about the tour: "We feel honored to tour with Anathema and Mamiffer. Since years Anathema is making this unique mix of prog and emotional rock. Mamiffer is the post-rock/experimental band of Faith Coloccia and Aaron Turner, talented Isis founding member and founder of Hydra Head Records. Sounds like a diverse and attractive billing! And this will also be the opportunity for us to play a few songs from our next album. See you in a few months!"
Anathema / Alcest
Special guest: Mamiffer
9/12 Philadelphia PA @ Underground Arts
9/13 Springfield VA @ Empire
9/14 New York NY @ Gramercy Theater
9/15 Boston MA @ Middle East
9/16 Montreal QC @ Foufounes Electriques
9/18 Toronto ON @ Opera House
9/19 Flint MI @ The Machine Shop
9/20 Cleveland OH @ Peabody's
9/21 Chicago IL @ Reggie's
9/22 Minneapolis MN @ Mill City Nights
9/24 Denver CO @ Summit City Music Hall
9/25 Salt Lake City UT @ In The Venue
9/26 Boise ID @ Knitting Factory
9/27 Seattle WA @ Studio Seven
9/28 Vancouver BC @ Rickshaw Theater
9/29 Portland OR @ Hawthorne Theater
10/1 Oakland CA @ Oakland Opera House
10/3 Los Angeles CA @ El Rey Theater
10/4 San Diego CA @ The Casbah
10/5 Tempe AZ @ The Marquee Theater
same, started saying it that way but realized years later that it's properly an-NATH-uh-muh.Ditto - I only realised the correct way to pronounce it when I saw them supporting Opeth last year and they introduced themselves to the audience :blush
https://www.burningshed.com/store/anathema/product/5/4952/Same here. And I don't know about the Tilburg footage, I really hope they'll release it soon.
I'm not sure whether I'll buy this yet... I'd love to get the bonus content, but I don't have a Blu-ray player :-\ What happened to the Tilburg footage?
https://www.burningshed.com/store/anathema/product/5/4952/Same here. And I don't know about the Tilburg footage, I really hope they'll release it soon.
I'm not sure whether I'll buy this yet... I'd love to get the bonus content, but I don't have a Blu-ray player :-\ What happened to the Tilburg footage?
And they played Fragile Dreams twice?? :huh:They played both the Hindsight version and the original one.
Didn't know they played both versions of Fragile Dreams. Pretty cool idea.And they played Fragile Dreams twice?? :huh:They played both the Hindsight version and the original one.
The trailer looks great, but I'm still not sold on the idea of not having the extras on the DVD.
Not to derail discussion of the BR/DVD here, but I can't stop listening to Weather Systems since discovering it a few weeks ago.It's been almost a year and a half since I first listened to Weather Systems and I'm still not sick of it. I just played it this afternoon and I enjoyed it just as much as I did the first time I heard it.
Good gracious, this band is hitting me hard. Have not felt this kind of raw emotion with a new band in a long time.
Inner Silence literally brought me to tears. God damn I am so glad I found this band, Alternative 4 is the best thing I've heard since...I dunno, maybe DT's Changing Seasons. This is a powerful album though, I really love it... Anyone have any recommendations for where to go next? I'd want to try out Weather Systems but given that I've already heard some tracks off the album, I'd rather that be the last thing I get into despite that I've heard it's amazing. I want it to be as 'new' as possible.
Get We're Here Because We're HereThis! Judgement is also very good, as is A Natural Disaster. Both are very good to start with. After that I'd try WS and A Fine Day To Exit.
:tup :tup Next on my queue. Also LOL at Changing Seasons...it really has been a long time since I've actively listened to DT...Wow, my sleepy head actually didn't notice that... :o
Alternative 4 is amazing. I love Fragile Dreams so much.THIS THIS THIS THIS.
Lost Control :heart
Bumping this one up to share a video I just found on youtube of One Last Goodbye live in 09 (I believe). Normally can't stand the audience singing over the singer, but damn this is an exception. Left me with some major chills. Especially seeing Vincent's reaction near the end.
I still feel your love
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ)
SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR TO SEE THIS MUSIC BROUGHT TO LIFE IN A FEW WEEKS!
Bumping this one up to share a video I just found on youtube of One Last Goodbye live in 09 (I believe). Normally can't stand the audience singing over the singer, but damn this is an exception. Left me with some major chills. Especially seeing Vincent's reaction near the end.
I still feel your love
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ)
SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR TO SEE THIS MUSIC BROUGHT TO LIFE IN A FEW WEEKS!
Untouchable, Part 2 from Universal! It's incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRt0Ug5WweE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYRt0Ug5WweE&nomobile=1
I agree on all counts. And if it is rotated day to day, I hope I picked the right day :lolI can't really see two bands playing for two hours each, in addition to having an opener. But I haven't been to many shows with more than 2 bands on the bill, so I'm not sure how long shows like these usually last. My only comparison was the Devin Townsend, Katatonia, Stolen Babies, and Paradise Lost concert I saw last year. The two support acts got half and hour, and DT and Katatonia only got an hour to an hour and ten minutes or so.
I really like Alcest as well, but I have a feeling Anathema will leave me feeling inspired rather than melancholy.
As for the issue of them only playing about an hour, I'm not super concerned. For mine, doors open at 6. Mammifer will probably play almost right away for about 30-40 minutes (done by 7ish). Which leaves about 2 hours for each band, barring serious technical difficulties during the transition. Which would leave it off at about midnight.
At least, that's what I'm hoping for. Fingers crossed.
You could say its greatness is... untouchable :lhk:I've been watching that video almost every day since it was released. And yeah, Lee looks great. Not to mention her voice which is fantastic as well. :heart
On a serious note, that performance is amazing and Lee looks gorgeous :hearts:
I can't really see two bands playing for two hours each, in addition to having an opener. But I haven't been to many shows with more than 2 bands on the bill, so I'm not sure how long shows like these usually last. My only comparison was the Devin Townsend, Katatonia, Stolen Babies, and Paradise Lost concert I saw last year. The two support acts got half and hour, and DT and Katatonia only got an hour to an hour and ten minutes or so.
I guess I shouldn't worry about this as I'm sure the show will be spectacular regardless.
I've only listened to Mare Decendrii once, but it was pretty good. It was very mellow and relaxing. I guess I'd describe it as ambient-ish post-rock with piano. They're on Bandcamp, where you can stream their stuff for free.I can't really see two bands playing for two hours each, in addition to having an opener. But I haven't been to many shows with more than 2 bands on the bill, so I'm not sure how long shows like these usually last. My only comparison was the Devin Townsend, Katatonia, Stolen Babies, and Paradise Lost concert I saw last year. The two support acts got half and hour, and DT and Katatonia only got an hour to an hour and ten minutes or so.
I guess I shouldn't worry about this as I'm sure the show will be spectacular regardless.
I sure hope its more than an hour for each band. On the venue website it says start time at 6 and end time at 12. So long as Mammifer gets done quickly, they should each get a minimum of 1.5 hours I would think.
speaking of which, how is Mammifer? I've never heard the name before, and can't find much online.
Due to unavoidable circumstances our usual rhythm section of John and Jamie are unable to join us on this particular tour of America. Our fantastic drummer Daniel Cardoso recommended to us his long term musical partner and best friend Tobel Lopes as bass player for these shows. It sounds amazing and we are really very happy to be here.This kind of sucks, but at least Danny, Vincent, and Lee will be there. I wonder who will be playing keys.. ???
Not enough Alt 4/Judgement songs for my taste, but I don't live in a country where good concerts happen and won't see the tour so who am I to complain :P
While talking with Danny Cavanagh, he stated that the new album will be recorded later this year and possibly spill over into January of next year. The band will enter the studio to record with producer Christer André Cederberg, who worked on Weather Systems and who is currently working with Anathema guest vocalist Petter Carlsen (who released another of my 2012 favorite albums, Clocks Don’t Count).
The new album will feature at least 8 tracks although it might go up to 10. Danny states that two of the tracks will have a slightly more electronic feel to them, although he admits that this does cause him a little bit of worry and concern on what the fans will think. However, he states that he is inspired by the fearlessness of Radiohead songwriter/vocalist Thom Yorke, who Danny says has no concern on what the fans think because he releases the music he wants, lacking a fear of rejection.
Danny also has taken inspiration from his recent attendance at the Atoms For Peace concert in London where he said he danced for 90 minutes straight, something he hasn’t done for years and years. He comments that he went into the concert one musician and left another, charged to create something entirely new and different from what he had previously intended.
Another track that will hopefully appear on the album will be a two-minute (perhaps slightly longer) a cappella piece that features all the current and past members of Anathema as well as ex-The Gathering singer Anneke van Giersbergen and Petter Carlsen.
He wrapped up by admitting that while Weather Systems and We’re Here Because We’re Here were beautiful, fantastic albums, he thinks that he might’ve played it a bit safe, bowing to the fans’ cries for “More guitar!” After this, he stated that the band will gradually shift away from that over the next three albums.
On a personal note, I have to say that talking with Danny was an absolute delight. He’s charming, witty, has just the right amount of ego while still understanding and appreciating the fans, and is so passionate about what he does. For me, Anathema is a band that holds no pretentiousness, who writes honest music with heartbreaking, poignant, and powerful lyrics, and are stellar songwriters. A new album will be a great addition not only to my collection but to a musical landscape that desperately craves those attributes. May 2014 cannot come soon enough for me.
I thought WS and WHBWH were quite keyboard-driven already...QuoteHe wrapped up by admitting that while Weather Systems and We’re Here Because We’re Here were beautiful, fantastic albums, he thinks that he might’ve played it a bit safe, bowing to the fans’ cries for “More guitar!” After this, he stated that the band will gradually shift away from that over the next three albums.
HOLY CRAP I MUST HEAR THIS! :oQuoteAnother track that will hopefully appear on the album will be a two-minute (perhaps slightly longer) a cappella piece that features all the current and past members of Anathema as well as ex-The Gathering singer Anneke van Giersbergen and Petter Carlsen.
Except that WS is way better than WHBWH heheheheho/
Except that WS is way better than WHBWH heheheheh
*\oExcept that WS is way better than WHBWH heheheheho/
Except that WS is way better than WHBWH heheheheh
Yup.
Danny said that a couple of songs on WS were songs that were written for WHBWH and didn't end up on it, so I don't think it's weird that someone would think the albums sound similar. There are a few minor minor minor differences, but otherwise they are the two most similar Anathema albums in their discography, and they have much more in common than many of the older albums have in common with each other for example.
I don't think WS is bad, but Anathema has 4 or 5 albums that I like more. WS is great for what it is though.
Even the songs that were written before were reworked in a way that made them fit the feel of the album, though. It's a much more acoustic guitar based album and the songs written after show a progression, too. I wouldn't say they sound exactly alike, but rather they sound like they should-- a natural progression.All of this, particularly about it being more acousitc guitar driven. It really changes the feel quite a bit and works perfectly for that album.
Danny said that a couple of songs on WS were songs that were written for WHBWH and didn't end up on it, so I don't think it's weird that someone would think the albums sound similar. There are a few minor minor minor differences, but otherwise they are the two most similar Anathema albums in their discography, and they have much more in common than many of the older albums have in common with each other for example.I still don't get this. To me Weather Systems sounds completely unique, and a lot better.
With WS they played it safe and basically made a WHBWH 2.0. A great album, but a twin-album music-wise.I don't know about everyone else, but I was pretty much taking issue with the above. Saying they're similar is one thing (and arguably inarguable ;) ) but calling it WHBWH 2.0? Yeah, I don't hear that at all.
Like I said, if even Danny (a band-member) said in an interview that parts of the album were leftovers from WHBWH, I don't see why it's something to get all worked up about.Why not if we disagree with it. People get worked up about lesser things around here.
In case any of you wanted new info about the new lineup and the new album next year. check out my interview I did with Daniel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_n4rGVH2Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_n4rGVH2Y)
Show tonight!!! :metal
Am I the only one who gets goosebumps during Untouchable Part 2 when Lee sings "I feeeeell you..."?I concur with every word here.
Dem feels man. Dem feels.
Dem feels of a perfect fucking album. :metal
Part 2 is beautiful and all, but it's honestly my 2nd least-favorite song on the album.
Part 1, however, is simply amazing.
Saw the show last night and it was stunning!!! Can't say enough about how great it was.
Saw the show last night and it was stunning!!! Can't say enough about how great it was.
Just out of curiosity, how long was the total show, all three bands?
Saw the show last night and it was stunning!!! Can't say enough about how great it was.
Just out of curiosity, how long was the total show, all three bands?
The first band didn't play...so glad. Alcest played about 1.25 hours and Anathema played their hearts out for 1.5 hours. They were simply amazing...so much energy and feeling. They truly love what they do and it shows.
kicking it across the street from the venue, just waiting for a line to start. Always hate being first :p
I thought that was part of the problem with Alcest as well, I was below the big speakers for the venue. Funny, after Alcest, the crowd kinda formed in the middle of the place(which allowed me to get up front for Anathema) thinking that the sound would be better, but it was pristine where I was, and I was literally standing next to the stage left monitor and Lee's monitor.
I thought that was part of the problem with Alcest as well, I was below the big speakers for the venue. Funny, after Alcest, the crowd kinda formed in the middle of the place(which allowed me to get up front for Anathema) thinking that the sound would be better, but it was pristine where I was, and I was literally standing next to the stage left monitor and Lee's monitor.
I was standing in the exact same place (practically on the stage with Lee an armslength away), at my show as well and the sound was great.
The recent setlists look awesome, so you're in for a real treat!
Amazing show last night. Aside from the music I loved how the guys interacted with the crowd and how you could see they were having so much fun playing for us, inviting the crowd to participate in singing and chanting their melodies.
My only complaint was the sound which I don't think was their fault since they nailed everything right, but the drums were a bit louder than the rest of the band. And they didn't play "everything" which is one of my favorite songs but still, I had a lot of fun tonight.
And they said they're recording a new album in December :D
Before even hearing it? lol
I'm sure whatever they release will be awesome.
Like I've said before, I don't really watch live dvds that much. For me it's mostly a matter of time, I'm always doing something, and setting aside 2 hours to watch a concert is not high up on my list. It's different than something like a movie, in the case with concerts, the visual part is appealing to me if I am actually seeing live on place, but seeing it at home isn't as exciting. I do tend to listen to all the live albums I'm interested in though, listening means I can still do other things on the side.
And Universal is a great live album. A bit too much WHBWH/WS for my taste perhaps (not that those albums are bad, a few more older songs would have been cool), but I obviously understand why the setlists looks the way it does.
Man, it's almost criminal how little discussion "Universal" is getting.I watched it a few weeks ago and thought it was awesome :tup
It's easily the concert film of the year IMO. Such a great performance, in a really cool atmospheric venue. It definitely makes you love what this band are doing, and you can totally buy it when they say things about feeling like a new band.
Man, it's almost criminal how little discussion "Universal" is getting.
It's easily the concert film of the year IMO. Such a great performance, in a really cool atmospheric venue. It definitely makes you love what this band are doing, and you can totally buy it when they say things about feeling like a new band.
Hmm maybe I should watch it
That's actually one of the only things that bothers me about the DVD. Knowing that they were going to play the normal version without the orchestra, why not swap out that first fragile dreams for something else?
Where do you live? And nice username, btw.
Where do you live? And nice username, btw.
Thanks. I live in the Twin Cities area.
Got Weather Systems, loving it so far. Untouchable Part 1 and The Storm Before The Calm are my favorites so far. :)
Got Weather Systems, loving it so far. Untouchable Part 1 and The Storm Before The Calm are my favorites so far. :)I fucking love that last song. Are you new on Anathema?
Yep, first album. :DAwesome. I'm almost a new fan too and besides WS, I've just listened to Alternative 4. Give it a try, it's amazing.
Recently, Anathema's singer/multi-instrumentalist Daniel Cavanagh announced that the band has been working on its 10th studio album, and that it is scheduled for release in May of this year.
Cavanagh stated that he was influenced by Radiohead and Atoms for Peace, and that some tracks will have a slightly more electronic feel. He also talked about a possible short acapella song. He says the next album will follow the same path than the previous two, but he stated that, on those past releases, the band has played it a bit safe, and that Anathema plans to gradually shift away from that on the next few albums.
I'm not sure I follow the logic here. The influence will be a stylistic one, incorporated into Anathema's own style, and has nothing to do with quality.QuoteRecently, Anathema's singer/multi-instrumentalist Daniel Cavanagh announced that the band has been working on its 10th studio album, and that it is scheduled for release in May of this year.
Cavanagh stated that he was influenced by Radiohead and Atoms for Peace, and that some tracks will have a slightly more electronic feel. He also talked about a possible short acapella song. He says the next album will follow the same path than the previous two, but he stated that, on those past releases, the band has played it a bit safe, and that Anathema plans to gradually shift away from that on the next few albums.
Radiohead sounds interesting, but Atoms For Peace was one of the most mediocre releases of last year, so I don't know. It feels like it will either be a pretty cool album or a pretty underwhelming one. It's Anathema though, so I expect a pretty good album, but nothing that will be on my top lists for 2014. There's 3 or 4 releases in May alone that I am more excited about.
Most of the times, if any given band/artist is influenced by other music, usually it'll come out not sounding anywhere close to that. I also thought Atoms for Peace's record wasn't that good. Radiohead influences sound interesting though. Not playing it safe sounds even better. WHBWH was a highlight, WS was a bit too much in the 'heavenly' sound department IMHO. Time for some more balls I hope.
I'm not sure I follow the logic here. The influence will be a stylistic one, incorporated into Anathema's own style, and has nothing to do with quality.QuoteRecently, Anathema's singer/multi-instrumentalist Daniel Cavanagh announced that the band has been working on its 10th studio album, and that it is scheduled for release in May of this year.
Cavanagh stated that he was influenced by Radiohead and Atoms for Peace, and that some tracks will have a slightly more electronic feel. He also talked about a possible short acapella song. He says the next album will follow the same path than the previous two, but he stated that, on those past releases, the band has played it a bit safe, and that Anathema plans to gradually shift away from that on the next few albums.
Radiohead sounds interesting, but Atoms For Peace was one of the most mediocre releases of last year, so I don't know. It feels like it will either be a pretty cool album or a pretty underwhelming one. It's Anathema though, so I expect a pretty good album, but nothing that will be on my top lists for 2014. There's 3 or 4 releases in May alone that I am more excited about.
Either way, new music from them excites me immensely! :D
Now, a band saying that band X influenced the new album doesn't give everything away, and it's not like that tiny piece of information crushed my expectations, it's just more of a "eh really?" kind of reaction.I just don't understand the link between a stylistic influence and the quality of something. As far as I'm concerned, those two are entirely unrelated.
They could be related if you don't like the thing that has applied the influence. I guess.
Also-- I've learned to stop having expectations for albums, really. When you go into an album thinking "man, this probably won't be that good" or "no way this will make my top albums list this year" then you're going it pessimistically, and what good is that?
Also-- I've learned to stop having expectations for albums, really. When you go into an album thinking "man, this probably won't be that good" or "no way this will make my top albums list this year" then you're going it pessimistically, and what good is that?
This is how I am. Music is meant to be enjoyed, so I see if I enjoy it or not. Later on, I may break an album down scientifically to see what I like or don't like.
I'm really interested in this, if its gonna be less safe and have electronic elements.I hope that with "electronic elements" they mean something like The Storm Before the Calm.
Anathema will support HIM on their North American dates this spring on the following dates:
Mar 07 - House Of Blues - Los Angeles, CA
Mar 08 - House of Blues - Anaheim, CA
Mar 09 - Fillmore San - Francisco, CA
Mar 12 - House of Blues - Chicago, IL
Mar 13 - House Of Blues - Cleveland, OH
Mar 14 - Irving Plaza - New York, NY
Mar 15 - Theatre Of Living Arts - Philadelphia, PA
Mar 16 - Irving Plaza - New York, NY
Mar 18 - Center Stage - Atlanta, GA
Mar 19 - House Of Blues - Orlando, FL
Mar 20 - Revolution - Fort Lauderdale, FL
Mar 24 - House of Blues - New Orleans, LA
Mar 25 - House of Blues - Houston, TX
Oh, I'd take a 2.5 hour Anathema set with the setlist containing only songs from Alternative 4 onward any day of the week!
Never listened to HIM don't think I ever will.Believe me, you're not missing out on anything! :lol
"An evening with Anathema"? Looks like they'll play a long set since they're coming to Australia for the first time.
Also, American fans get to see Anathema this month... but with HIM :puke:QuoteAnathema will support HIM on their North American dates this spring on the following dates:
Mar 07 - House Of Blues - Los Angeles, CA
Mar 08 - House of Blues - Anaheim, CA
Mar 09 - Fillmore San - Francisco, CA
Mar 12 - House of Blues - Chicago, IL
Mar 13 - House Of Blues - Cleveland, OH
Mar 14 - Irving Plaza - New York, NY
Mar 15 - Theatre Of Living Arts - Philadelphia, PA
Mar 16 - Irving Plaza - New York, NY
Mar 18 - Center Stage - Atlanta, GA
Mar 19 - House Of Blues - Orlando, FL
Mar 20 - Revolution - Fort Lauderdale, FL
Mar 24 - House of Blues - New Orleans, LA
Mar 25 - House of Blues - Houston, TX
I was willing to see them even with HIM (who, to be fair, I know nothing about) because I've fallen head over heels for this band. But, the night they are in Houston I've already got tickets to see TOOL (who I've never seen). I was even willing to go if the Anathema show started at 7pm, but they start at 8 which is when TOOL goes on. Curses!
Here's hoping we get a headlining tour with the next album...!!
I was willing to see them even with HIM (who, to be fair, I know nothing about) because I've fallen head over heels for this band. But, the night they are in Houston I've already got tickets to see TOOL (who I've never seen). I was even willing to go if the Anathema show started at 7pm, but they start at 8 which is when TOOL goes on. Curses!
I picked up WHBWH a couple weeks ago. My God. I can't stop listening to it. Just as powerful and emotive as WS. I can't wait to see what Anathema crank out next.This. I discovered this amazing band when a friend put it as his 2012 AOTY (just above Flying Colors). I've been digging their discography from Alternative 4 to WS and I'm blown away. There's some weird stuff on AFDTE/AND but every song this band has made is unique, has pure creativity and lots of beauty.
So how are these guys live? They'll be in my neck of the woods in a few weeks in a small venue, worth seeing?I don't think anyone in this thread is going to say anything other than a resounding YES ;D I saw them supporting Opeth about 18 months ago and they were great, would love to see them again on a headline tour. Their recent live Bluray was brilliant too. Even just watching live clips of them on Youtube, you can get a sense of the emotion that goes into their performances.
For $12 I don't think it'll be a bad way to spend the night, I'm going to go and check them out.
British eclectic rock band Anathema have been exploring a broad range of musical horizons over the nearly 25 years of their existence and have traveled a greatly diverse stylistic journey. While they’re not heavy on a sonically superficial level as they were in their early death/doom metal days, there’s still a large section of fans of rock and metal fans that can appreciate the band’s modern-day approach towards creating and portraying their art. After completing an overwhelmingly successful and long-awaited first ever tour of the United States last fall, they have returned to these shores for another run of dates, this time as main support to Finnish goth rockers HIM. The House Of Blues Sunset Strip in West Hollywood played host to the first show of this tour on Friday March 7th, and about 30 minutes before Anathema took the stage, I sat down with vocalist/guitarist Vincent Cavanagh to discuss the tour, mixing stages of the next album, and more. Enjoy the insightful conversation below, along with live photos from the LA show.
Vincent, you were here in Los Angeles on your first ever US tour a few months ago and today you’re starting another tour. How are you doing?
Feeling good. It’s been a really strange and bizarre day in a good way, I suppose. We’re right in the middle of making our album. We’re in the mixing stage right now and this morning we were given some news that I had to basically finish one of the tracks. That’s what I’ve been doing for the best part of today. In truth, we should really be in the studio right now. But we’ve decided to come on this tour for various reasons, number one I guess was the opportunity to go out with our friends, finally in the US. Ville has asked us to come out with them to the US three times now, so it was like, if we couldn’t do it this time it would almost be rude, you know. So we didn’t want to do that, plus the fact that we have faith in our producer to finish the mixes because he’s been there since the beginning. But at the moment, today basically I’ve been working all day on the mixes. I’ve been mixing tracks and getting them ready for the final push. I have some of the session on the laptop. So, the gig today is actually secondary for me. It’s actually the easy part of the day. But if I appear to be in a somewhat contemplative mood, it’s because I’m somewhere in the middle of the album, mixing down this song, and the gig itself is going to be bizarre for that very reason. But I think it’s good. It’s almost like a distraction from my day. I can get in there and just have fun for 45 minutes.
That’s an interesting situation to be in. The gig is something you don’t even have to think about. I guess it’s almost like muscle memory.
Muscle memory. Exactly, that’s what it is. I remember even when I was 17 years old and doing gigs, I was always happy to do it and I was never nervous. The trick is to not think about it too much and don’t expect anything either. For me, it’s just getting on and letting it happen right there, not thinking about it. Be in the moment as much as you can possibly be and try to enjoy it!
You did the headline tour recently and played at the El Rey with Alcest and Mamiffer. Did you even expect to be back so soon?
I guess not! Had things just flowed normally into the next headline tour, I guess we would have been back in amount a year, so around early next year. But this opportunity came around. We have new management and he’s working us hard. I said to him, ‘Listen, we’re in the middle of mixing, so for me it’s a compromise to break up the mix and come on tour in the middle of it.’ But he told us that we had to do it, and I didn’t really listen to him. I still didn’t want to do it. But then I listened to the producer explain how it was going to be done. We actually got a studio booked in Chicago in a couple of days, so we do the first three gigs in Los Angeles, Anaheim and San Francisco and then Danny and I fly to Chicago where we’re going to work in a studio to finish mixing and we’ve got two more dates after that to do recalls. But it’s almost done as it is anyway, so we’re pretty confident it’s going to be absolutely right. If we weren’t confident enough I don’t think we would be here but at the moment if we can do both, it’s perfect for everybody, I suppose. And it’s cool to be out with our friends. We’ve known HIM for years, they’re really, really nice guys and they treat us really well. Their crew is fantastic and they have no ego about them whatsoever. They’re just a cool rock band who’s here for the right reasons.
So you were confident of being able to do both the touring and mixing at the same time.
Well exactly, yeah. Specially having the studio booked in Chicago is going to help a lot. It’s pretty cool the way it’s going at the moment. There are some very intense things happening behind the scenes. I can’t really talk too much about it because it will all be revealed in a interview/documentary kind of thing which will be coming out on the album and we’ll explain it all on that.
You’re a support act for HIM on this tour. Do you think their crowd is already familiar with Anathema in terms of the musical style and everything, or do you have to play a show that’s very different from your headline shows in its overall vibe?
I’m not sure what it’s like in America, but in the UK we’ve played with HIM a number of times and their crowd were great to us. I mean, after all we’re a bit of a rock band ourselves, you know. We’ve been known to experiment, of course, and we’ll continue to do so. But we’ve got some rock songs too. I just think if you’ve got good tunes, you sound good and you play well, you’re going to do OK. Doesn’t matter who you’re playing for. If we were playing in front of a Slipknot audience I’m not sure that would go down too well but with HIM it’s fine.
Obviously over the years you’ve traveled quite a journey of musical styles. Where do you see it going with the next album and what path do you see it taking, moving from ‘Weather Systems’ to the next step?
It’s a very difficult thing to put into words in terms of what your music actually is. It’s becoming more diverse, I guess. The way I see it is, our music has grown from a nucleus outwards and it’s continuing to expand. It’s like its own little universe in a way. It’s just expanding in all directions and I think that’s the way it’s going to be. There are lots of things we want to do in our music that we haven’t done yet, but when we write music we don’t really think about that. It’s just a case of it coming out of us in a certain way where we just don’t have to think about it too much and we just do it naturally. It always changes, so you can be the same writer and the same person but you could write two completely different things on the same day. It all depends on what happens. And then what you choose to do for the whole band and for the whole record, you just choose the best stuff you’ve got, really. You make the best possible of collection of songs that you can do, you call it an album, give it away and then it’s not yours anymore (laughs). It’s everybody else’s, and that’s fine because that’s a part of the process. But at the moment the next album is still ours and we’re holding on to it for dear life, clutching onto it like a newborn baby and being very, very careful with it. When it’s done, it’s easy. We never really stopped creating anyway. Even when we’re in the studio doing an album, we’re still writing stuff. It kind of never stops. So in answer to your question, we don’t know where it’s going. It just happens.
Is this musical progression a reflection of your own musical tastes?
I would say it’s a reflection of us as people. But definitely, our musical tastes are very, very diverse, far more diverse than the music we put out. I listen to plenty of stuff that I would never want Anathema to sound like (laughs), but I guess it’s a reflection of who you are as an individual, how you express yourself and how you grow with your music. Every time you’ve done something it really teaches you something about yourself and how you can do things. You learn all the time about your own music. We never want to repeat ourselves, ever. So that also forces the evolution because if we do a song and it sounds like something we’ve done before, we’ll scrap it. Or if we come up with a song that sounds like it could have been written five years ago, we don’t do it. Everything we do has got to be fresh, now and new.
Finally, aside from this tour and the finishing touches on the album, what plans do you have for the rest of the year?
After this tour I’m going to be home for a couple of months and I’m looking forward to a welcome break from everything. I’ll still be busy behind the scenes of course, with interviews and things like that, but as far as actual touring goes, it’s just a couple of gigs in the summer for European festivals and then we start major touring in the autumn in the UK, then we go to the rest of Europe. Then probably early next year we’ll be back in the US. In the meantime I’m looking forward to getting home, being in my new house with my girlfriend and my cat, my new studio which I just finished, writing some more music and doing something completely different to Anathema. I’m looking forward to having my life back for a little while. I have to take those moments whenever I can because I’m a very busy person and I don’t often get a chance to live my life. So I can’t wait to do that just for a little short time.
Is that really the new title and cover? Was that confirmed at some point that I missed? I like it!The band hasn't said anything, but the shirt is from the official merchandise store, so I'm assuming that the only thing "Distant Satellites" can be is the new album title (and I'm guessing the artwork is the cover, as they have a similar Weather Systems shirt). Also, Wikipedia has Distant Satellites listed as the album name.
For $12 I don't think it'll be a bad way to spend the night, I'm going to go and check them out.
Really? I find it kind of uninspired and/or cheesy tbh. Doesn't matter though, as long as the music is good I'm on board.
ANATHEMA return in June with 'distant satellites', their brand new studio album.
Due to be released on 9th June via Kscope, 'distant satellites' is the highly anticipated follow up to 2012’s Weather Systems, recorded at Cederberg Studios in Oslo, with producer Christer-André Cederberg.
The beautifully ethereal artwork was created by Korean new media artist Sang Jun Too and based around his Distant Light Installation
The band released a statement on their new album:
“Distant satellites is the culmination of everything ANATHEMA been working up to so far in our musical path. It contains almost every conceivable element of the heartbeat of Anathema music that it is possible to have.
There is beauty, intensity, drama, quietude, and extra musical dimensions that the band have previously only hinted at. All built on the song writing chemistry of Daniel, John and Vincent ~ and the haunting voice of Lee Douglas.
Produced and mixed once again by our very own Christer-André Cederberg (Weather Systems, Universal) and with some songs also mixed by the unassailable Steven Wilson, It's a special and unique release for the band.
ANATHEMA hopes the fans get as much joy from listening to and feeling the music as we did in creating it.”
I would say the artwork is a poor man's A Natural Disaster.
If the artwork had any other band name attached to it rather than Anathema (like if it was a totally unknown band), I doubt anyone would think it's good.
I would say the artwork is a poor man's A Natural Disaster. If the artwork had any other band name attached to it rather than Anathema (like if it was a totally unknown band), I doubt anyone would think it's good.Actually, if that were a black metal cover, or something with a band logo that was spikes and shit, I'd say it'd probably look better. It doesn't look bad at all, but the Font and placement of the band name and album title is kind of odd.
It looks like a late 90's atmospheric black metal cover tbh, but I like it too.It looks like an Atmospheric Black Metal cover period.
It looks like a late 90's atmospheric black metal cover tbh, but I like it too.
Ariich, nice Rassilon avatar:tup
Wikipedia has a track list up, but the only other places I can find it are on a few different blogs, so I'm not sure if it's actually real.
We'll probably find out soon enough once the pre-orders on Burning Shed are open.Wikipedia has a track list up, but the only other places I can find it are on a few different blogs, so I'm not sure if it's actually real.
Yeah, I saw that too. But no confirmation by the band that I've seen.
Wtf, no shows in Great Britain? The only UK date is Belfast!Thought that myself. Someone asked on their FB page and they replied with:
The Lost Song part 1 (5'53)
The Lost Song part 2 (5'47)
Dusk (Dark Is Descending) (5'59)
Ariel (6'28)
The Lost Song part 3 (5'21)
Anathema (6'40)
You're Not Alone (3'26)
Firelight (2'42)
Distant Satellites (8'17)
Take Shelter (6'07)
Didn't Danny mention something about an a cappella song featuring all the current and former members of Anathema? That might be the self-titled song...:eek
Track Listing
01. THE LOST SONG part 1
02. THE LOST SONG part 2
03. DUSK (dark is descending)
04. ARIEL
05. THE LOST SONG part 3
06. ANATHEMA
07. YOU'RE NOT ALONE
08. FIRELIGHT [instrumental]
10. TAKE SHELTER
Listening to the sample sounds like it could have been taken from the last 2 albums, I hope there is something different and not
another s=version of those 2.
keep the high level of writing Weather Systems, add more piano, majestic orchestrations (in the manner of those of Falling Deeper) and enchanting melodies, sprinkle all of a fine dose of post-rock
continues where stopped offering music still planing and exhilarating, but also brighter and positive than in the past(not sure I believe that bit)
The bit about the album being more homogenous than Weather Systems makes me worried, because WS was kind of samey to my ears already.Keep in mind that may not be a good translation. In context, it may mean "consistent". The fact that the review gave 9/10 would seem to support that.
So today I bought tickets to see them in November. Now I can finally cross them off my "need to see live before I die" list. :)
They're coming to Istanbul AGAIN. And this time...oh. AGE LIMIT AGAIN. BUT NOPE. I actually know the owner of the freaking venue. He said he could get me in as "staff" with VIP tickets. Woah.Lucky you... :eek
Sun Kil Moon's Benji is still the best singer/songwriter album from the past 15 years.
Did Elliott Smith have an album in the past 15 years? Also,what is your AOTY so far? :biggrin:Sun Kil Moon's Benji is still the best singer/songwriter album from the past 15 years.
No it's not, but it's one of the better albums of 2014 for sure. :tup
or maybe just the name? :lol
or maybe just the name? :lol
Yeah seriously. My imagination can only go so far.
I think that as long as we don't post the link, we can discuss the leak.
or maybe just the name? :lol
Yeah seriously. My imagination can only go so far.
After searching for all the track names, I assume this is it *snip*
ETA: Actually, I'm not quite sure what the rule is on non-DT music-related leaks on the forums, so I won't link it. The new song is The Lost Song Part III, though.
fuck, people. a link?Absolutely no links to leaks, or hints at where to find them. You can discuss the music itself though, if you've heard it.
or maybe just the name? :lol
haha I literally could've bet money on what your post would say Jimmy. going into the album with a disappointment mindset before this probably didn't help!
fantastic song. very atmospheric as usual, and I really love the vocals.
It's a grower, definitely. I sounds a bit weird alone, but I think it will fit better in the album context.Yes, especially after hearing the first two parts.
The only track that isn't making a very good impression in the samples, for me, is You're Not Alone.
The only track that isn't making a very good impression in the samples, for me, is You're Not Alone.Same.
The Lost Song Parts 1 and 3 sound like they suck.I'm curious to know what makes you think that. I could maybe understand you saying that they all suck, but picking those two out... They don't sound significantly different than the rest of the album, at least not to my ears, so I'm a little puzzled.
Just listening to the clip for Ariel got me thinking. Lee Douglas has a great voice, but I've always felt that she goes a bit overboard on the vibrato. I think it works well with the kind of music Anathema puts out, for the most part, but it still makes me chuckle a little at times.I agree. The only time her vibrato has really bothered though me is on Untouchable Part Two from Universal, where she really went overboard.
Just listening to the clip for Ariel got me thinking. Lee Douglas has a great voice, but I've always felt that she goes a bit overboard on the vibrato. I think it works well with the kind of music Anathema puts out, for the most part, but it still makes me chuckle a little at times.I agree. The only time her vibrato has really bothered though me is on Untouchable Part Two from Universal, where she really went overboard.
the title track to Distant Satellites. This amazing song (as well as the closer Take Shelter) finally accomplish what We’re Here Because We’re Here” and Weather Systems fell short of: a satisfying climactic finish to the album.If Internal Landscapes isn't a satisfying and climactic finish to an album, then I don't know what is. In fact, I'd say it is the most satisfying and most climactic song Anathema has ever released.
I would consider Internal landscapes to be one of the most beautiful, emotionally powerful songs I've ever heard and it has brought me to tears on numerous occasions. Its one of my top favorite songs in this world.
I can't say the same about Hindsight.
I would consider Internal landscapes to be one of the most beautiful, emotionally powerful songs I've ever heard and it has brought me to tears on numerous occasions. Its one of my top favorite songs in this world.
First single released, per Facebook.
Lost Song Pt. 3
https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA (https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA)
First single released, per Facebook.
Lost Song Pt. 3
https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA (https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA)
First single released, per Facebook.
Lost Song Pt. 3
https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA (https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA)
Wish I could say that I'm enjoying it more than I am. Still a whole album to listen to though.
The review has me as excited as ever, thanks for sharing, but a couple things….take it easy, Conor is a friend of mine :lolQuotethe title track to Distant Satellites. This amazing song (as well as the closer Take Shelter) finally accomplish what We’re Here Because We’re Here” and Weather Systems fell short of: a satisfying climactic finish to the album.If Internal Landscapes isn't a satisfying and climactic finish to an album, then I don't know what is. In fact, I'd say it is the most satisfying and most climactic song Anathema has ever released.
And a whole lot of 'hell no' from me, in regards to the reviewer's take on the recent direction Anathema has taken with their lyrics. Conor Flynes can take his complaints about "pseudo-spiritual love and peace" and shove them straight back up his goddamned, lousy, anal cunt of a mouth. :angel:
Great interview with Vincent: https://noisefull.com/interviews/anathema-vincent-cavanagh
Although I've liked the newer albums, it's cool to hear that Distant Satellites is darker, because that's the kind of music I love the most. The bit about playing some of the early stuff live sounds really promising too :caffeine:
Yeah, I'm not expecting an Alternative 5, but a little bit of darkness is never a bad thing.Great interview with Vincent: https://noisefull.com/interviews/anathema-vincent-cavanagh
Although I've liked the newer albums, it's cool to hear that Distant Satellites is darker, because that's the kind of music I love the most. The bit about playing some of the early stuff live sounds really promising too :caffeine:
Just don't expect darker in the vein of Alternative 4 or something like that, it's definitely less happy sounding than Weather Systems.
It's a cool album, a little tiring at times, with some great songs (Anathema and Dusk (Dark Is Descending) especially) and some interesting experimentation.
Hahahh oh shit, really? I was only being absurdly critical for the sake of irony. At the same time, I do strongly disagree with his sentiment on the recent lyrics. :angel:Eh no biggie he'd probably laugh :lol
That's because I haven't gotten my hands on the album, yet :).
And I hope you enjoy it too!Pfft, you've just described 90% of the posters in 90% of the music threads here. ;)
I guess my issue is that fanboyism implies excessive adulation and verging-on-psychotic admiration, typically paired with unrealistic expectations. While I certainly seem to have unrealistic expectations sometimes, that's because they haven't put out anything that's disappointed me yet- and so far it doesn't appear that this one will either. I guess I'm just going to learn my lesson the hard way, eventually, when they do disappoint. As for excessive adulation, I'd say there's nothing too excessive about it. I legitimately love this music, and that's really exciting for me. However, I do also recognize that these guys are only human- just like me. They're normal guys who happen to be really good at their jobs, and I don't revere them as people for that (not consistent with my understanding of fanboyism). I do, however, put this music on a pedestal above nearly all other music. And I do so quite frequently and, admittedly, overzealously. :smiley:
I would say the artwork is a poor man's A Natural Disaster.
I would say the artwork is a poor man's A Natural Disaster.
I actually got the real version. Having a radio show does help. haha
I do have a theory on the new album that the track order is on purpose.
The first half is showcasing what they have been doing since WHBWH, then the song Anathema happens, then the rest of the album showcases where the band will continue on in the future.
This is also my theory I came up with at 3am, half awake after repeated listens, so this could very well be flawed.
while on WS I can't stand 'Lightning Song'.
while on WS I can't stand 'Lightning Song'.
:huh: I'm curious to know what you dislike about it.
That's exactly it. Anathema are always walking a fine line between emotional and so emotional it's almost silly.
That's just my opinion ofcourse. But I have to say: the track 'Anathema' is so excessively over-the-top that it's impossible bot to feel anything. Thet couldn't have chosen a better track to name after themselves. On the other side of the spectrum, I really dig the electronic title track.
This album is already way more interesting to me than WS. The only Songs I still play from that one are the last two tracks.
Personally I think this really started with WHBWH/WS. On their older albums like Judgement, A Natural Disaster and Alternative 4, I feel like they made emotional music, but it never felt like they were trying too much.
Why I like WHBWH and WS? It puts me in a comfortable space and atmosphere I can escape to and just enjoy life for life. The things they say in the songs like Everything are things I also believe. Those two albums are interconnected and the most positive, uplifting albums I ever heard.
I first heard Anathema with Fragile dreams and enjoyed the atmosphere. But then, I enjoy music for music and if it makes me feel a certain way I enjoy it, hence why I can listen to so many songs deemed boring, cheap, cheesy, lame, uninspired.
That's exactly it. Anathema are always walking a fine line between emotional and so emotional it's almost silly.
It's an interesting point you bring up. I was a fan of the band since before WHBWH came out, but personally I didn't mind the change from dark to light. I think they have written some of their best songs in "Phase 2" of their career, and they have written some really good emotional songs. Maybe it's harder to write positive songs though? It seems like it's easier to capture the melancholic and depressing emotions, maybe because it's easier to pinpoint what those are. When you're writing a positive song, it can easily come off as "Everything is so positive and exciting and life is wonderful and the best thing in the world", which IMO some of the more recent songs suffer from.I couldn't have put it better :clap:
There's something very truthful to a lot of their older stuff, and you can really feel and hear the pain of the lyrics on songs like Forgotten Hopes, One Last Goodbye or Lost Control. (Just to name a few) There are moments like that on the recent stuff which also resonates with me (despite the lyrics being more bright and positive), but there are a few songs where it doesn't feel quite as sincere. Maybe it's just the change in lyrics overall. Old Anathema felt very more personal and very much like their own experiences and lives. There are a few recent songs like that, but overall they seem to have moved onto "bigger" ideas, with the whole "life is eternal" theme of exploring life and death.
Danny always says their lyrics are 100% genuine and honest and I believe that, but on the last 2 albums there are a few songs that are emotional almost to the point of cheesiness
there awfully repetitive in the lyrics stakes now. patterson wrote the best lyrics imo
John Douglas is still in the band though isn't he? The press photo for the album seems to imply that he's still part of the band (along with Jamie Cavanagh, both of whom were absent on both North American Tours).Lee Douglas commented on Facebook confirming that all the members in the press photos (including John Douglas and Jamie Cavanagh) will be playing on the tour.
And today it seems that they're exploring more electronica influences; surely Patterson didn't bring them there as well?The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)
I don't know if I would credit Patterson alone, but I would say the most important time in the band's career was the transition from Eternity-Alternative 4-Judgement. That's really the time period that formed the Anathema we have today. They started leaving the heavier stuff behind and started finding that atmospheric and emotional core that has been their foundation ever since. While they have shifted from dark to light, albums like A Fine Day to Exit and Judgement are not that different from the newer ones. I think Patterson played an important part in leading the band from the Doom-sound to what they eventually became, but he did not take them for the entire ride. I think he played a major part in changing the band's sound, and once he left, Danny and Vinny basically took more responsibility and continued down the road they started together.:iagree:
On another note, while I'm not a fan of Serenades, I think that The Silent Enigma is incredibly underrated. I love that album. I would say it's easily on par with albums like Weather Systems, Eternity or even A Fine Day to Exit. It's different, it's heavier and it's not quite the band we know today, but what a fantastic Doom album it is. It's still very melodic, and it's a bit of a personal favorite of mine. I will probably spin it again soon, it's been a while. :metal
You've inspired me to give in another listen soon, too. It's been a while for me, as I've never liked it quite as much as the rest (definitely more than Serenades though). I'm not much of a doom fan, and I don't like the vocals all that much, but it's still pretty good. I probably just need to give it another try.
Speaking of underrated, it seems like people never talk about A Fine Day to Exit and I've never really understood why. I'd say it's kind of hit or miss for me, but mainly hit. I really enjoy Pressure, Release and Panic; just about as much as a lot of the tracks on Alternative 4, Natural Disaster, and even a few on WHBWH/WS.
And today it seems that they're exploring more electronica influences; surely Patterson didn't bring them there as well?The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)
The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)
In fact, one of the reasons Duncan left was that his writing was going in a more electronic/ambient direction, while the other guys wanted to play rock. If you compare Judgement to the first Antimatter album, it's obvious who was more into electronica at the time.I don't know if I would credit Patterson alone, but I would say the most important time in the band's career was the transition from Eternity-Alternative 4-Judgement. That's really the time period that formed the Anathema we have today. They started leaving the heavier stuff behind and started finding that atmospheric and emotional core that has been their foundation ever since. While they have shifted from dark to light, albums like A Fine Day to Exit and Judgement are not that different from the newer ones. I think Patterson played an important part in leading the band from the Doom-sound to what they eventually became, but he did not take them for the entire ride. I think he played a major part in changing the band's sound, and once he left, Danny and Vinny basically took more responsibility and continued down the road they started together.:iagree:
On another note, while I'm not a fan of Serenades, I think that The Silent Enigma is incredibly underrated. I love that album. I would say it's easily on par with albums like Weather Systems, Eternity or even A Fine Day to Exit. It's different, it's heavier and it's not quite the band we know today, but what a fantastic Doom album it is. It's still very melodic, and it's a bit of a personal favorite of mine. I will probably spin it again soon, it's been a while. :metal
Duncan wrote most of Eternity and Alt 4, and those albums were crucial for Anathema's evolution, as he started to bring more mellow elements and keyboards into their music. A lot of the more guitar-driven and rocking songs came from the Cavanaghs: The Beloved, Ascension, Fragile Dreams, Re-Connect...
And yes, The Silent Enigma is awesome :metal
On the other hand, Anathema wouldn't be where they are today without the Cavanagh brothers.
On the other hand, Anathema wouldn't be where they are today without the Cavanagh brothers.
or Patterson, fact. Credit where credit is due, some just can't accept that and feel the world is now theirs, thinking they just
suddenly appeared with 'clean vocals'.
I've just noticed Lost Control has the highest ranking on the likes of youtube, ain't that interesting?
iirc it was Duncan who got the band to switch direction from the doom metal style in the first place. Or at least one of the major factors they did so. But he hasn't been a part of the band in a long time now, they're where they are because of their own talent.
They're Here Because They're Here. Patterson isn't.
I wasn't saying Duncan brought the band to where they are today, which would be silly anyway due to the fact that he's been out of the band for 16 years and Anathema have found a new fanbase with the last couple of albums. I just wanted to point out that the electronic influence isn't an exclusively Vinnie/John thing, and I'm actually sure it would've been really strong on the hypothetical follow-up to A4 if Dunc had stuck around.And today it seems that they're exploring more electronica influences; surely Patterson didn't bring them there as well?The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)
Yeah, but when was empty written? And until I see some sort of proof that John Douglas's and Vincent's interests in electronics (which, from what I understand, have been around for a long time) was a direct result of Patterson's, I'm going to remain skeptical on the whole 'brought them to where they are today' thing, particularly when it implies that he played a more prominent role in their development than anyone else. Was he an influence? Absolutely, and a big one at that. He also wrote some great lyrics, and played a big part in the period of transformation that Zantera mentioned, but I still think Anathema would have grown and changed a lot regardless. On the other hand, Anathema wouldn't be where they are today without the Cavanagh brothers.
I wasn't saying Duncan brought the band to where they are today, which would be silly anyway due to the fact that he's been out of the band for 16 years and Anathema have found a new fanbase with the last couple of albums. I just wanted to point out that the electronic influence isn't an exclusively Vinnie/John thing, and I'm actually sure it would've been really strong on the hypothetical follow-up to A4 if Dunc had stuck around.And today it seems that they're exploring more electronica influences; surely Patterson didn't bring them there as well?The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)
Yeah, but when was empty written? And until I see some sort of proof that John Douglas's and Vincent's interests in electronics (which, from what I understand, have been around for a long time) was a direct result of Patterson's, I'm going to remain skeptical on the whole 'brought them to where they are today' thing, particularly when it implies that he played a more prominent role in their development than anyone else. Was he an influence? Absolutely, and a big one at that. He also wrote some great lyrics, and played a big part in the period of transformation that Zantera mentioned, but I still think Anathema would have grown and changed a lot regardless. On the other hand, Anathema wouldn't be where they are today without the Cavanagh brothers.
.. their old bass player Patterson brought them to where they are today, theres no question about it if you read who wrote what...
I try to go in 100% neutral in albums these days. I completely ignore the artist/band and just judge the album on its own merits, because that's what you should do IMO.
I don't have huge expectations for the album personally. As long as it's better than Weather Systems, I'll be happy. I don't see it beating Judgement or We're Here Because We're Here, but that's really no shame, considering how good those two albums are.
Yeah I know what you mean. I think it's important to not get carried away with initial reactions. Many times you can love something initially, but once it sinks in and you start to really analyze it, your reaction changes.More commonly it's the other way for me. It's pretty rare that I love something on first listen and don't still at least really really like it later on. More often, a shift in style or something else unexpected will cause me to not really get an album on first listen. That's normally where I decide not to form an opinion, give it a few more listens, and then decide. Most recent example of that is Closure in Moscow's new album - first listen was a total wtf for me as it was quite a departure from their first two albums.
They're Here Because They're Here. Patterson isn't.
it's just you haven't acquired the other side of the brain, it's not catchy enough for you.
You seem to think Judgement would have came along anyway right after Silent Enigma
Theres a long line of development there. Alt 4 exposed the band and opened doors...
After a couple of listens I can say that this album doesn't live up to the 2 previous ones. Although the last part brings a new feeling with the electronic elements the first half sounds a lot like they were just repeating the formula and while there are some songs that I really like overall I don't get those intense feelings Anathema normally generates.
Weather Systems first half I don't really like (except maybe The Gathering of the Clouds). From Storm Before the Calm until the end is stellar though.
Sunlight is where WS gets lower.
I'm the odd one out then cause I love Sunlight
snipping all of that down...
Interesting idea to open with Firelight and the Distant Satellites. I think that could be cool as well. :) I do hope that the setlist isn't just new stuff, and then WS and WHBWH material though. It seems likely that there won't be many older songs, but it would be nice with a few surprises. I forgot about Flying, and I think that's a song they very well could play, because it is like a "hit"-song. One Last Goodbye and Fragile Dreams feel almost like sure bets, but it would be nice with something surprising, like how they played Emotional Winter on the last tour. So that was mainly my reasoning for naming A Fine Day to Exit. It's always cool with a surprise song from the back catalog. :)
One Last Goodbye and Fragile Dreams feel almost like sure bets, but it would be nice with something surprising, like how they played Emotional Winter on the last tour. So that was mainly my reasoning for naming A Fine Day to Exit. It's always cool with a surprise song from the back catalog. :)Maybe Don't Look Too Far? That song hasn't been played since 2000 and it could represent Judgement on this tour. Sadly I think AFDTE (album) will be ignored :-\
I saw someone say that Take Shelter is one of their weakest closers and that's actually an interesting notion. I do like the song myself, but if you look at previous closers, you got: Internal Landscapes, Hindsight, Violence, Temporary Peace and 2000 & Gone on previous albums. I think the title track could have been the closing track tbh. It's both epic, has that grandiose feeling and would have been a satisfying ending to the album. Take Shelter is still great though, so it's just a minor thing really.I dunno, I don't find the title track very grand either, by their standards. It's quite mellow and calm really.
I could see them playing the album in full at least for one part of the tour.
I think there is a possibility they could play all the songs from the album, but does it necessarily have to be in one sequence? It feels like the chances are higher that they play all 10 songs, but spread out in the setlist, rather than the entire album as one big chunk, but that's only my guess. I don't mean this in a bad way, but I don't think Anathema has any albums that NEEDS to be played as one sequence. It's not like a concept album where you want the full effect of it, with all songs flowing into each other, with Anathema it's more an overall atmosphere on the album, with songs that doesn't necessarily HAVE to be played together.I could have sworn they played WHBWH in full multiple times
They didn't do it for WS or WHBWH, so I don't think they will play all 10 in a row. But all 10 spread out in the setlist, I think that could happen. If I were to bet money on it, I would guess 7-8 songs from the new album or something like that. You're Not Alone or Firelight seems like the two I doubt whether they will play or not, but I'm not ruling any of them out. Especially if they use Firelight as a "intro" of some sort, they could squeeze that song into the concert without "playing" it.
I think I like his drumming better than John Douglas' drumming already.
That's a freakin' EDM track and it's absolutely amazing.I don't know you, but I don't feel like dancing that song.
I can't stand You're not alone. I find it very annoying and have already deleted it from Itunes.
(https://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/black_floyd_2007/vomit.gif) You're Not Alone
Me and my Fiancé would listen to Weather Systems for hours on end, and 9 times out of 10 it would lead to intimacy. We listened to Distant Satellites and she was like "what happened" and I agree with her. The electronica just does not suit them and detracts from what they are really good at.
After a couple listens I find it to be a bit underwhelming as well. Not bad by any means, but not anywhere near as good as WS, and probably a tad bit worse than WHBWH.
The electronic final third is interesting, but the album before that just sounds like more of the same sound from the last two albums, only less inspired. WHBWH established the sound, WS perfected it, and while this album's a bit more dark/empty sounding, I don't think it differentiates itself enough. That, and the composition of the songs just feels weaker, for whatever reason.
As for Weather Systems being a recycled WHBWH, which seems to be a very common complaint, I've always felt that WS did an excellent job of refining and focusing in on what made WHBWH so great. In other words, it seems like most people see WS as a redo of WHBWH, and I've always felt that it was more of a progression.Agreed, and I do personally find those complaints pretty weird. For me WS and WHBWH are very different, other than the general style of positive upbeat rock music.
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't "Anathema" written like 15-20 years ago? Or something odd like that. I would imagine the first "draft" was very different from the final version though. I will say that "You're Not Alone" really does sound like a song that was written during A Natural Disaster or something. Like a long lost twin-song to Closer. If you think about it, A Natural Disaster had some electronic ideas on it. It felt like they were gonna go down that road, but after the 7 year hiatus it felt like they almost had to re-establish themselves with some strong albums again, which they did. And now they made another album, teasing to go deeper into electronics. Personally I hope this album gets a good reception (so far it has) and that the band is encouraged to continue down that road.
Honestly I probably couldn't rank the last three albums. They each have so many amazing facets to them that I pretty much love them equally, as they're making music that just essentially sounds perfect to me. There are flaws, but I love the style and approach to music so much that I just look past them for the most part.I swear sometimes I think you're basically me. We seem to have so much in common in our music tastes!
I've taken some days off from listening to it (because I don't wanna overplay it), but I plan on spinning it during the weekend again. I find myself walking around the apartment and just start humming along to different melodies on the album, so after 4-5 listens I guess that's a really good sign. :DI keep getting sections stuck in my head out of nowhere too, definitely a good sign!
The last chorus and the solo of Anathema was stuck on my head for a whole damn day. Damn epic track, I can't think of a better song to self-title it.I've taken some days off from listening to it (because I don't wanna overplay it), but I plan on spinning it during the weekend again. I find myself walking around the apartment and just start humming along to different melodies on the album, so after 4-5 listens I guess that's a really good sign. :DI keep getting sections stuck in my head out of nowhere too, definitely a good sign!
That would be outrageously good, but they seem like VERY different bands...
Just started listening to Weather Systems. Pretty good stuff.:tup
Just started listening to Weather Systems. Freaking awesome stuff.FTFM.
Honestly I probably couldn't rank the last three albums. They each have so many amazing facets to them that I pretty much love them equally, as they're making music that just essentially sounds perfect to me. There are flaws, but I love the style and approach to music so much that I just look past them for the most part.I swear sometimes I think you're basically me. We seem to have so much in common in our music tastes!
Just started listening to Weather Systems. Pretty good stuff.
https://www.facebook.com/duncanpatterson.music
Duncan Patterson's band Alternative 4 are supporting Anathema on their Irish dates in September. I wonder if he'll join them on stage for a song or two...
The song 'Distant Satellites' opens up a possible new path to delve into. That's a freakin' EDM track and it's absolutely amazing.
I think I like his drumming better than John Douglas' drumming already.
It's pronounced "Anne theme uh" right?
We've been pronouncing it as Anna-theme-ah for years.. I know it's wrong haha.Same here. :lol The first time I realised I was saying it wrong was when I saw them supporting Opeth a couple of years ago and Danny said "We're Anathema", prounouncing it the correct way. I still always read it the wrong way in my head though. Same with Haken - which is meant to rhyme with 'bacon' - but I always say it as if it rhymes with 'blacken'. :facepalm:
To be fair, Anathema is a real word, not just something the band made up.Yeah exactly, it's a word that unfortunately a lot of people just don't know because people don't, on the whole, have very good vocab these days. Fair enough for people who don't have English as a first language of course!
I pronounced it as anna-THEY-ma too until my dad corrected me. :lol
So I finally got around to listening to Judgement, and it's awesome. Far far better than either WHBWH or WS, which I don't really like at all.
Yeah, I'd agree. The fact that everyone gushes over both WHBWH and WS, whereas I find them pretty boring and bland just hindered me from checking out their earlier stuff, I guess. Should have done so sooner!
I still haven't listened to Judgement. I like Alternative 4 but WS is my favorite followed by WHBWH. I can't describe feeling I have while listening those two albums :)
That's it :PI still haven't listened to Judgement. I like Alternative 4 but WS is my favorite followed by WHBWH. I can't describe feeling I have while listening those two albums :)
I think the words you're looking for is "emotional boner" :angel:
Distant Satellites live drum cam : https://youtu.be/yvl5G22qhJUWow, thanks for that. I REALLY like his drumming!
As much as I loved WS and am loving We´re here because we´re here, Distant Sattelites doesn´t do all that much for me, sorry.
In fact I find it rather bland.
So if I like Alternative 4, Judgement and Eternity, but don't like We're Here Because We're Here and Weather Systems, will I like the most recent one?Probably not, it still feels like material left from the previous two that they revisited and changed up for a large part of the album. I only listened to it once, but unlike the previous albums nothing in it makes me want to check it out again. Maybe it will change after a few months but for now I have absolutely no desire to listen to it.
I like both Untouchables and The Lost Songs, but the next album should be opened in a different way instead of a two-part suite to avoid predictability.
After a couple of listens I can say that this album doesn't live up to the 2 previous ones. Although the last part brings a new feeling with the electronic elements the first half sounds a lot like they were just repeating the formula and while there are some songs that I really like overall I don't get those intense feelings Anathema normally generates.
This album turned to be a grower and in time I think I might end up liking it more than WS.
Lost Song Pt. 2 acoustic clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FGvpY74MCU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FGvpY74MCU)Better that album version IMO
If Anathema want to go mainstream, why don't they just write 3-minute songs with the verse-chorus formula? It's not like the album is full of radio singles.
Holy crap those prog awards are a joke.They actually have two albums on there for Album of the Year that haven't even been released yet (Knifeworld and Yes), and voting has started already. :facepalm:
Really? That's ridiculous :facepalm:Holy crap those prog awards are a joke.They actually have two albums on there for Album of the Year that haven't even been released yet (Knifeworld and Yes), and voting has started already. :facepalm:
Holy crap those prog awards are a joke.^This
Gonna see them live for the fourth time next weekend at the Night of the Prog festival :D I hope they play some great stuff from DS!
Lee Douglas' vibrato is kind of annoying, but I wouldn't mind a solo album from her. Great voice.
I forgot the actual emoticon code, so I have to improvise
:facepalm:+ :lol
Seriously though, what did you hope to accomplish with that post?
its a forum, nobody is out to accomplish anything other than voicing their opinon
btw and not one to gloat but here we go... i saw this band in... 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 97, 98 and 2002, i think i know what i'm talking about and i'm right, in fact i'm bang on the money. you wouldn't hear that of course cos you're not actually 'listening'.
whenever I finally do end up checkout out Anathema.
It's interesting that you mention listening late at night. I think that definitely makes for a good DS listen. On the other hand, I've always felt that WHBWH and WS really come to life during the daytime. I used to put WHBWH on first thing every morning.
It's interesting that you mention listening late at night. I think that definitely makes for a good DS listen. On the other hand, I've always felt that WHBWH and WS really come to life during the daytime. I used to put WHBWH on first thing every morning.I agree about Weather Systems, but I think WHBWH is the perfect soundtrack for a sunset (or probably a sunrise...
Intro A New Machine (Part 1)Absolutely sensational setlist if you ask me. My only disappointment was not getting Internal Landscapes.
(Pink Floyd)
Untouchable, Part 1
Untouchable, Part 2
Thin Air
Sunlight < THIS WAS DREAMING LIGHT NOT SUNLIGHT
The Lost Song, Part 3
Anathema
Deep
The Storm Before the Calm
Universal
Closer
A Natural Disaster
Distant Satellites
A Simple Mistake
Encore:
Are You There? (Danny solo acoustic)
Parisienne Moonlight
One Last Goodbye
Fragile Dreams
I'm 100% sure that setlist is incomplete - here's a full one from Greece: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2014/principal-club-theatre-thessaloniki-greece-5bce5fec.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2014/principal-club-theatre-thessaloniki-greece-5bce5fec.html) Looks like they're playing it safe for now... I haven't seen Anathema live yet so I don't mind, but it must be boring for longtime fans to hear all those songs over and over again.That's a bit more like it ;D It is a bit of a shame when bands don't mix it up that much, that set has 6 of the 7 songs they played when I saw them support Opeth a couple of years ago. I'm not really bothered in this case though, I'm just excited to see them headline and hear some of the new songs live, so I'd be pleased with that Greek setlist.
The boys and girl in Anathema truly are the masters of emotion :heart
2015 is going to represent a year of diverse live performances for Anathema. With some major surprising news coming soon -- as well as new unchartered territory with the UK Cathedral concerts -- we are beginning to focus on the bands entire catalogue, including material going back to our roots...
I thought this might interest some people:That sounds good, I might actually go to see them live again if they change up their setlist!Quote2015 is going to represent a year of diverse live performances for Anathema. With some major surprising news coming soon -- as well as new unchartered territory with the UK Cathedral concerts -- we are beginning to focus on the bands entire catalogue, including material going back to our roots...
Sounds intriguing
I thought this might interest some people:That sounds good, I might actually go to see them live again if they change up their setlist!Quote2015 is going to represent a year of diverse live performances for Anathema. With some major surprising news coming soon -- as well as new unchartered territory with the UK Cathedral concerts -- we are beginning to focus on the bands entire catalogue, including material going back to our roots...
Sounds intriguing
Some interesting news just in.On top of that, he briefly changed his cover photo to a pic of the original Anathema line-up. Maybe this is hinting at some kind of anniversary show/tour where ex-members make appearances? I'd be happy even if they just played more Alt 4/Judgement songs than they do now, but revisiting the first three albums isn't a bad idea either. ;)
Announcement tomorrow!
When their ninth best album is still an 8 out of 10, that speaks volumes of how good they are IMO.I'm blown away by how consistent they are. Even their last album, after 20 years of musical career and another 9 albums, it's still awesome.
Yeah, they've creeped up on me over the past couple years and slowly become my favorite band. Completely agree about Serenades, it's the only one that I'm not very interested in. It's hard to argue with your rankings, too, although I would put Weather Systems up there with Judgement and Alternative 4 as my top 3.
Hopefully the concert surpasses all of your expectations. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. :)
The setlist tonight was:According to setlist.fm they've played Ariel everywhere else instead of OLG, so you got a slightly different set. Ariel is one of my favorites from the new album, but I like OLG even more so I can't say I'd be disappointed if they kept it that way for my show next Saturday.
*snip*
Anathema To Play Special ‘Resonance’ Set at Roadburn Festival (https://www.facebook.com/roadburnfestival) 2015; To Be Joined By Former Members Duncan Patterson and Darren White.
“Roadburn festival is a hugely respected institution and has to be the most fitting launch for the Anathema 'Resonance' tour. It will be a celebration of the band's entire history, and to be joined by our old friends and comrades Duncan Patterson and Darren White for these exclusive shows will be a very special, potent and positive event for all of us. We hope you can join in this once in a lifetime celebration” - Danny Cavanagh.
Saw the show tonight with my mother and my gf. We left disappointed. Vocals overall were not convincing enough, at times quite off key, and the loud bassdrum drowned out the subtle emotional moments. Opening with The Lost Song and Untouchables was too much of the same and the enthousiasm of the band felt forced. Like they've lost their edge. And basically zero interaction between the band members.
Modest highlights were:
Thin Air
The Storm After The Calm
Anathema (not as good as I hoped but still)
Universal (also lacking, but the song is just really good, even when its performance isn't the best)
The Beginning and the End
A Natural Disaster (best performance of the night, finally felt something here)
Having seen Opeth a few days ago, the difference in professionalism and quality was painfully obvious.
However, a gig they did on the whbwh tour still stands in my top 5 gigs ever. I don't know what happend to Anathema. Maybe it's me? I'm holding off on their gigs for a while. I'll just play their records at home..
Don't get me wrong, the gig wasn't bad but with Anathema you hope and expect to be blown away.
Saw the show tonight with my mother and my gf. We left disappointed. Vocals overall were not convincing enough, at times quite off key, and the loud bassdrum drowned out the subtle emotional moments. Opening with The Lost Song and Untouchables was too much of the same and the enthousiasm of the band felt forced. Like they've lost their edge. And basically zero interaction between the band members.
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Having seen Opeth a few days ago, the difference in professionalism and quality was painfully obvious.
However, a gig they did on the whbwh tour still stands in my top 5 gigs ever. I don't know what happend to Anathema. Maybe it's me? I'm holding off on their gigs for a while. I'll just play their records at home..
Don't get me wrong, the gig wasn't bad but with Anathema you hope and expect to be blown away.
I have been playing and composing music for over 20 years, transcending genres and moonlighting with various artists. After releasing 12 albums as a band member (Anathema, Antimatter, Ion, Alternative 4) I am now working on a trilogy of orchestral albums, containing cinematic versions of my songwriting discography.
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anyone get The Lost Song pt. 3 digital single? "Coda" sounds somewhat familiar... (the remix is pretty lame though)
anyone get The Lost Song pt. 3 digital single? "Coda" sounds somewhat familiar... (the remix is pretty lame though)
Anyone else get "Coda"? Does it actually fit in with the album at the end (as a coda would?), or is it merely an afterthought? I'd like to know the story behind it because if it does belong at the end of DS, I can put it there on my playlists.
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Me too... Make sure you let us know how it went, tomorrow. And enjoy! This is your 2nd time seeing them, right?
I was surprised by the opener, I was expecting The Lost Song Pt1 but it makes sense that they opened with Anathema instead.You guys got Deep and One Last Goodbye instead of The Storm... and Take Shelter - I'm jelly!
I was just checking setlist.fm and it seems South America got a slightly different setlist than Europe.
I don't like the idea of re-arranging the order of the songs on an album, mostly because I've gotten used to the album a certain way, but if the new AFDTE helps bring in some new fans for the album, then it's cool that they are doing it.
Pressure is one of my favorites from the album so I obviously disagree. :)I don't like the idea of re-arranging the order of the songs on an album, mostly because I've gotten used to the album a certain way, but if the new AFDTE helps bring in some new fans for the album, then it's cool that they are doing it.
i'm into it just because i've always thought "Pressure" is a horrible opening choice, setting up the album like it's the new Coldplay record before going in a much better direction with "Release." plus, once i heard the intending opening track years ago, it was clear to me which option was better!
AFDTE is actually the next Anathema album I was going to get (I'm working my way backwards; I have DS, WS, WHBWH and I just got AND). It's not very clear from that interview when the new version of that is going to be released, though... Obviously at this point I want to wait for that...I think it's around April 13th, along with the boxset.
A Fine Day
Release
Leave No Trace
Underwold
Pressure
Panic
Breaking Down The Barriers
Looking Outside inside
A Fine Day To Exit
Temporary Peace
I saw that the other day, Nekov... Very cool.Is that the one in Portugal? I love that vid too, so emotional!
And speaking of crowd involvement, there's an incredible recording of the band performing One Last Goodbye and the crowd taking most of the vocal duties while Vincent breaks down into tears. It's my single favorite video on YouTube.
Just ordered Weather Systems for $3 in the local online store. Always wanted to give this band another try, and with this price I'm ready to do this. :tupI hope you find them cheesy enough :neverusethis: .
WHBWH recently clicked for me. I still think WS and DS are better, but WHBWH is still excellent. I don't listen to much Porcupine Tree, but what I've heard, I get a PT vibe from WHBWH. I know Steven Wilson mixed the album, but did he have any influence on it?
Take Shelter is the best song on Distant Satellites aside from the title track, if you ask me. I really wish more of that album was electronic, because I like those last two songs so much more than the rest of them.
So Anathema is playing a few acoustic cathedral shows now and I believe the final one (in Liverpool) is being filmed for DVD/blu-ray release. Looking at the set lists from the shows so far, there are a couple songs that would be really neat to get on the DVD.
I doubt it will live up to the standard set by Universal (still sooo good, even after having watched it more than a dozen times), but I'm looking forward to seeing what they put together. Hopefully involving Lasse Hoile and hopefully available within the next year or so.
I can also hear some hints of PT in A Simple Mistake, especially in the verses and the heavy climax.WHBWH recently clicked for me. I still think WS and DS are better, but WHBWH is still excellent. I don't listen to much Porcupine Tree, but what I've heard, I get a PT vibe from WHBWH. I know Steven Wilson mixed the album, but did he have any influence on it?
he didn't write anything (like the Opeth contributions, for example), but it's very clear "Get Off, Get Out" was written in the PT style.
Electricity! :omg: :hefdaddy
Is there anything special about the gig?It was acoustic.
I Don't feel WHBWH/WS is the same album but I do feel that way for WS/DS. The Lost Song and Untouchable are super similar.
I think WHBWH, WS and DS make a great trilogy.Absolutely this :hefdaddy.
That's great to hear! I'm absolutely biased on this, but I think WS is the single most perfect rock album ever. The emotional catharsis, the pure passion of the music, the beauty of the arrangements, this huge bright atmosphere, Vincent & Lee - I love every single bit of that album. And that's interesting 'cause it bored the shit out of me on the first listens :lol.
That's great to hear! I'm absolutely biased on this, but I think WS is the single most perfect rock album ever. The emotional catharsis, the pure passion of the music, the beauty of the arrangements, this huge bright atmosphere, Vincent & Lee - I love every single bit of that album.Yes. Yes yes yes. All of this.
And that's interesting 'cause it bored the shit out of me on the first listens :lol.But not this.
My favourite albums are The Silent Enigma, Eternity, Judgement and Alternative 4. All of those are amazing.
Rereading my posts, I came across a little grouchy. I didn't want that, and I definitely don't want to create the impression that I think my musical taste is superior or anything. I truly wish I would be able to get WHBWH, WS and DS the way most of you seem to, because it's obvious that they really poured their souls into them, but they just don't work for me.
I saw it on some top 2012 list back then, and gave it a spin, since I trusted the reviewer's taste. But I was far from impressed. Meh at best. I even had it on my mp3 player for several months, just to show it to people who may like it.QuoteAnd that's interesting 'cause it bored the shit out of me on the first listens :lol .But not this.
My favourite albums are The Silent Enigma, Eternity, Judgement and Alternative 4. All of those are amazing.
Rereading my posts, I came across a little grouchy. I didn't want that, and I definitely don't want to create the impression that I think my musical taste is superior or anything. I truly wish I would be able to get WHBWH, WS and DS the way most of you seem to, because it's obvious that they really poured their souls into them, but they just don't work for me.
You couldn't come across as grouchy and superior if you tried ;)
Lovelorn Rhapsody from last night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1wSn4xeTlI) - sounds damn heavy! :metal They also play a mash-up of the original version and the Falling Deeper arrangement of They Die at the end.
Fuck,I gotta pick between seeing Anathema live or Slowdive. Thinking more towards Slowdive but i don't know... :-\
There's an old thread in which several folks shared their top 20 or so, with writeups. You should resurect that and share your thoughts more in depth. I'd follow and surely do my own eventually
Internal Landscapes off Weather Systems is just awesome! My favorite Anathema song. Any favorite songs?That might be very well my favorite Anathema song also. I also have a soft spot for Ariel for some reason. My top 5 at the moment would look like this:
I'm now watching Universal. I knew they were an excellent live band, but this is amazing - Dreaming Light had a killer performance by Vincent. And now Danny is blowing minds in The Storm Before the Calm :hefdaddy .Yeah, Universal's an amazing live album/concert film. The amphitheater where they played at that show looks so amazing, and the band was on fire that night. Plus (on the BluRay version only), there's an awesome 5 song acoustic set from an earlier gig at the Union Chapel with two songs that weren't on the main feature.
I know there was talk of doing an Anathema discography thread a while ago, but for some reason that never materialized. However, this year marks the band's 25th anniversary, there were the Resonance shows and the Music for Nations reissues in the spring, and I'm seeing them live again in August, so I thought about reviewing all the Anathema albums in my blog, but I realized I could run a discography thread over here at the same time. Anyone interested in following?
I've never listened to the early albums (pre-Alternative 4) or the EPs but I would most certainly enjoy reading about them, it would provide a nice guide on how to get started on those.Same for me, I only listened 2 or 3 songs on the albums before Alternative 4, I would like to read something about them.
1. The Lost Song part 1 (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (05:53)
2. Ariel (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (04:05)
3. The Lost Song part 3 (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (04:31)
4. Firelight (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (02:16)
5. Anathema (live at Liverpool Cathedral) (07:15)
The concert report is online: https://www.musicalypse.net/reports/dream-theater-2015.php
Also, did anyone else see the announcement for the tour edition of Distant Satellites? According to Omerch, this is the tracklist for the second disc:Quote1. The Lost Song part 1 (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (05:53)
2. Ariel (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (04:05)
3. The Lost Song part 3 (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (04:31)
4. Firelight (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (02:16)
5. Anathema (live at Liverpool Cathedral) (07:15)
I thought that tour with Alcest in 2013 was their first headline US tour (I was at the NYC show).It was a co-headlining tour, so technically speaking this upcoming one would be their first proper headlining tour.
It feels a bit like milking it, especially considering they released Universal fairly recently, and the fact that a live DVD/CD covering the reunion-set they did with Duncan Patterson and Darren White for the 25/30 year anniversary would have been more interesting, but I'll still listen to it and probably enjoy it. They're great live, and while this feels like an easy release to finance the next studio album or touring, I can't fault them for putting out a live album when they're a strong live band. Just would have hoped to see the Resonance setlist instead. That would have been truly special.
There've been several mentions of a U.S. tour this year from the band. In one interview I even read something about two tours. But with their current tour schedule I don't see where it could possibly fit in. In a recent interview Vincent said that the cruise would be their last show of the year. So... :huh: :-[ :'(Obviously they've got visas already (since they played ProgPower), so maybe the promoters screwed up? Either way, that sucks for the US fans and kind of defeats the purpose of the "tour edition" of DS.
Maybe next year?
With that said, I read a bit about the band's history and am really excited to dive into their discography!Awesome! ? did a discography thread of them a couple of weeks ago, so I recommend you give it a read :tup
With that said, I read a bit about the band's history and am really excited to dive into their discography!Awesome! ? did a discography thread of them a couple of weeks ago, so I recommend you give it a read :tup
So, I've heard the band name Anathema thrown around every now and again. Frankly, I don't remember if I ever gave them a listen before.:tup I'm similar with the emotional attachment thing. Anathema are such a unique band for me, they just evoke so much feeling in me that I don't get from any other bands tbh.
So I see their name again for their upcoming live release and decide, "What the hell? I'll check out a song." I go to you YouTube, type in 'Anathema' and just click on the first video that comes up. Weather Systems complete album. Cool.
Now, I maybe run across a song that I get really emotionally attached to once a year. Maybe. The last song I was really into was Steven Wilson's The Raven That Refused to Sing. And the minute he starts singing in Untouchable Part I...I was just enamored. The harmonies were absolutely beautiful and the lyrics heart-wrenching. Since then (this was probably a week and a half ago), I've been obsessed with Untouchable Parts 1 and 2. The rest of the album is pretty damn great, although I haven't given the last 3 tracks many spins, as I'll inevitably just cycle back to the first two because I mostly listen to music in my car on the way to/from work.
With that said, I read a bit about the band's history and am really excited to dive into their discography!
I'd also recommend checkimg out the live performance of Untouchable Pt. 1, released yesterday from their upcoming DVD A Sort of Homecoming, if you haven't yet. I'd post the link if I wasn't on my phone and if it wasn't sp easy to find.Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UBdJLqCI0Q)
Just listened to A Sort of Homecoming and honestly it was a bit underwhelming. Not bad, but not as good as Universal was, and I feel like it was too scaled down for its own good. Some of the new versions, like Electricity or Temporary Peace were really nice, but some of the better new songs felt a bit under-developed kinda. Compared to what's probably the best progressive rock acoustic/unplugged live album 12:5, this didn't feel as magical or special. Still, enjoyable, but a lot of the songs just felt scaled down and the simplicity didn't really add anything to them.
Just passing by to remind you the greatness of Take Shelter. Bye.
Thanks! I will publish it in a few days (and post the finished version here), but if any of you guys have any suggestions, they'll be more than welcome :smiley:
Guess I need to try out Weather Systems according to that chart then :metal
Guess I need to try out Weather Systems according to that chart then :metal
Go. Check it now! :)
It's a cool idea to make a flow chart and I enjoy reading them, but I still think it makes much more sense to start with the first album and just work through the discography that way. Alternatively, I guess I just don't think so much about these kinds of things, but I don't see why Judgement would be a better starting album than WHBWH or any other album. I say WHBWH because that's the first one I got into, not that I necessarily like it any more than Judgement or Eternity or even Serenades.
It's a cool idea to make a flow chart and I enjoy reading them, but I still think it makes much more sense to start with the first album and just work through the discography that way. Alternatively, I guess I just don't think so much about these kinds of things, but I don't see why Judgement would be a better starting album than WHBWH or any other album. I say WHBWH because that's the first one I got into, not that I necessarily like it any more than Judgement or Eternity or even Serenades.
You don't see a problem recommending a death-doom metal album for a band that has primarily played prog rock for 18 years?! Not to mention it's a little difficult for the vast majority of listeners to be open-minded and try any death metal at all.
It's the same as recommending people try Katatonia by starting with Dance of December Souls. For metalheads that listen to doom, sure, but not for anyone else.
I was just listening to The Lost Child and at 4:50, it sounds like someone says "what the shit". It's something that caught me by surprise. Has anyone else heard it?
Anathema has been playing some unreleased material on tour in Europe - apparently there are 6(!) new songs in the set: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2016/effenaar-eindhoven-netherlands-53fa2bc9.html
Here's a bootleg of Springfield (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDFWkZsilw), sounds great.Ooh, I like it! You can tell it's Anathema right away, but it doesn't feel like a direct continuation of Distant Satellites. It's great to hear the guitars getting back to the front again and see John Douglas on drums instead of the electronic percussion. The lyrics seem to be a continuation of Barriers, though of course they may be changed before it gets recorded.
Yeah, looks like it replaced Fragile Dreams at the latest two shows. In France they closed with Metallica's Orion, though: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2016/big-band-cafe-herouville-saint-clair-france-2bfa2046.htmlAnathema has been playing some unreleased material on tour in Europe - apparently there are 6(!) new songs in the set: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2016/effenaar-eindhoven-netherlands-53fa2bc9.html
And they ended the show with the Judgement suite. Awesome.
Here's a bootleg of Springfield (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDFWkZsilw), sounds great.
I think there's a chance the drums will be electronic when they record the new album, and I really hope they go into that direction - Distant Satellites is an amazing song imo.
Are they going to release a new album sometime or what?
Its been like 3 years :'(
Per their Twitter account......
"A few firsts on this album: 1000 Argentinian backing singers..."
Per their Twitter account......Sweet!
"A few firsts on this album: upright bass, trombone, flugelhorn, 1000 Argentinian backing singers..."
Also said they were on the way to Abbey Road to master the album back on February 17th.
Per their Twitter account......
"A few firsts on this album: upright bass, trombone, flugelhorn, 1000 Argentinian backing singers..."
Also said they were on the way to Abbey Road to master the album back on February 17th.
Danny tweeted a photo from Abbey Road as well as the tracklist - apparently the record is (almost) done: https://www.twitter.com/Danny_Cavanagh/status/839886122624897024
Looking squished and bricked there. Not that I expected it to be different, of course.No, I didn't expect that either, but it is a bit of a shame.
optimist /ˈɒptɪmɪst/
noun: optimist; plural noun: optimists
1. a person who tends to be hopeful and confident about the future or the success of something.
2. a person who believes that this world is the best of all possible worlds or that good must ultimately prevail over evil.
After Anathema’s 2012 award-winning album Weather Systems and 2014’s spellbinding Distant Satellites, the ambient rockers are back with their eleventh full-length, The Optimist. Due for release on 9th June through Kscope The Optimist will soon reveal some of the darkest, most challenging and unexpected music the sextet have put their name to.
Anathema, led by brothers Daniel and Vincent Cavanagh, along with drummer John Douglas, singer Lee Douglas, bassist Jamie Cavanagh and keyboardist Daniel Cardoso began recording The Optimist in the winter of 2016 at Attica Audio in Donegal, Ireland and then finished at Castle Of Doom studios in Glasgow with producer Tony Doogan [Mogwai, Belle & Sebastian, Super Furry Animals] at the helm. Vincent elaborates on Doogan’s influence on the recording process “he suggested that we record as a live band, which we hadn’t done for years. Having played a few tunes on the last tour, we were ready for that. Tony wanted to capture that energy you can only get with everyone facing each other… it makes a big difference. He was a superb guy to work with and I learned a lot making this record”
The idea for The Optimist was born from the front cover artwork of the band’s 2001 album A Fine Day To Exit Daniel Cavanagh explains “I suppose you might say the album is semi-autobiographical because this time we used a surrogate,” he says, of the character that is The Optimist “We put sound, feelings and crucially, our own hopes and fears into another person and made him the subject of the songs then weaving my own internal monologue into the narrative of The Optimist. It was John’s idea to write a narrative, so I took A Fine Day To Exit as the starting point”. Vincent elaborates further on the earlier album’s artwork influence “The guy who disappeared – you never knew what happened to him, did he start a new life? Did he succumb to his fate? It was never explained. The opening track title is the exact coordinates for Silver Strand beach in San Diego – the last known location of The Optimist – shown on the cover of A Fine Day to Exit.”
To continue the theme further, the band brought back designer and illustrator Travis Smith to create the artwork for The Optimist. The artwork was created from a series of photographs Smith took on a West Coast road trip.
With the character’s unresolved destiny the three song writing members, meticulously brought the unfinished story to an end – and most strikingly of all – one which is decided by the listener.
32.63N 117.14W (01:18)
Leaving It Behind (04:27)
Endless Ways (05:49)
The Optimist (05:37)
San Francisco (04:59)
Springfield (05:49)
Ghosts (04:17)
Can`t Let Go (05:00)
Close Your Eyes (03:39)
Wildfires (05:40)
Back To The Start (11:41)
I am hypedThis. I wonder if they'll go into a more electronic direction - considering they recorded it live maybe they won't, but who knows.
What is that 11 minute track doing there?
This could well be interesting indeed.
"a-NATH-e-ma"If this is actually correct I will be pretty disappointed :lol that sounds soooo ugly to me
Yeah, it's aNATHema. It's a word in English.
And unless they've done that silly thing of including silence and a hidden track, that last one will surely be one of their longest ever. Interesting that they've changed their logo as well, having used the same one since WHBWH.
No, that's Spock's Beard.
Yeah, it's aNATHema. It's a word in English.
I figured as much as I've heard it before years ago, so the album logo and choice of underscore really confused me, unless it's meant to parallel the album title "the_optimist", in which case, it's a poor choice because it only confuses the band's name's pronunciation even more, as the underscore begs to be a syllabic break when spoken.And unless they've done that silly thing of including silence and a hidden track, that last one will surely be one of their longest ever. Interesting that they've changed their logo as well, having used the same one since WHBWH.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Optimist_(Anathema_album) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Optimist_(Anathema_album))
I love whoever wrote this article because of this line - "The song "Back to the Start" is their first over-ten-minutes song since A Natural Disaster." :lol :lol :lol
I guess that's a pretty big deal for a band that rarely writes songs over 5 or 6 minutes long, but the wording just sounds a bit clunky to me.
-Marc.
The lyrics seem to be a continuation of Barriers, though of course they may be changed before it gets recorded.They didn't, but it makes a lot more sense now for obvious reasons. :biggrin:
I liked it. Typical Anathema.
At first I thought the song was too simplistic for AnathemaExactly my thoughts, the melody at the first part is very simple, but the way it explodes is just amazing
Then it exploded in my face
Love it
At first I thought the song was too simplistic for Anathema
Then it exploded in my face
Love it
New review
https://metalwani.com/2017/05/review-anathema-the-optimist.html
I need another single SO bad. This wait is killing me...
I need another single SO bad. This wait is killing me...
I need another single SO bad. This wait is killing me...
Do you think that it'll come out soon?
Does that make you... the optimist?
:neverusethis:
I'd say The Silent Enigma was mostly clean vocals except Vincent used a different singing technique and the vocals sounded harsher and rawer because that was the kind of music they made back then.
Gotta say their new album is their best since WHBWH imo.
Gotta say their new album is their best since WHBWH imo.
I would disagree. Been listening to it a good bit and while I certainly accept it is very beautiful, there just isn't as much to hook or wow me as there has been on previous albums so far.
Will be picking this up later today. For those who have already heard it how does it compare to their last 3 albums?
Yeah it's only about 7 minutes. Still, probably the best song on the album, so something to look forward to. ;)BUT TITLE TRACK
People seem to be digging it, and that is great. I just myself am not really feeling it all that much.Likewise, which is a pity because they've been one of my favourite bands for the last few years. It was bound to happen at some point though, it's been a long time since they released an album that I didn't love.
Well, as a die-hard Anathema fan from the begining this album could be worst of their "changed era" I listen it so many times in two days and I don't feel like re-visit anytime soon. I've never felt like this before for Anathema.
this album could be worst of their "changed era"
Weather Systems arrived this morning. I listened this afternoon. The ending of The Storm Before the Calm is awesome! Just so euphoric, like plenty of Anathema moments. You have this great buildup (from the quiet bit in the middle of the song), and the payoff is worth it!
I've just got into early Anathema recently, i.e. Serenades, Pentecost III, Crestfallen, etc, and I find it so much more interesting than the new record.
A lot of the old stuff is more interesting than what they have been doing since WHBWH period. There's great stuff through their career and an album like The Silent Enigma beats Weather Systems or Distant Satellites meanwhile those beat the somewhat awkward Eternity, which while I still like, is a bit of an awkward transitional album.I've just heard The Silent Enigma for the first time. Awesome. But I really love Weather Systems. One of my favorite albums of all time, easily.
I've just heard The Silent Enigma for the first time. Awesome. But I really love Weather Systems. One of my favorite albums of all time, easily.
Considering the previous 2 albums were lesser versions of WHBWH I think it's baffling to call it disappointment when they finally break that pattern and do something else. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy WS and DS but at this point I almost forgot Anathema could do something else musically so this album was a breath of fresh air in that sense.
That 11:40 track is not 11:40 at all, as I kind of expected. 7:30-ish, then 3 minutes of silence and a hidden track. So Anathema's contribution to the great pantheon of prog epics will have to wait.
Does anyone have any video clips of the band saying their own name on stage somewhere? lol
Does anyone have any video clips of the band saying their own name on stage somewhere? lol
I don't have a link to hand but on the Sort Of Homecoming CD/DVD before the song Anathema they say the name out loud a A-Nath-E-Ma
https://rockmuzine.com/2017/07/03/interview-vincent-cavanagh-anathema-album-optimist/
Yet the first question asked, seems to suggest they changed the way it's pronounced more recently to cut ties with the past.
Who cares about the pronounciation of the band's name? It has nothing to do with the music, it is just a name.
https://rockmuzine.com/2017/07/03/interview-vincent-cavanagh-anathema-album-optimist/
Yet the first question asked, seems to suggest they changed the way it's pronounced more recently to cut ties with the past.
Hey guys, I've remade my Anathema flowchart to include the new album. I'd appreciate any feedback ;D
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-KNQUryhbLcbGRUSll6Wm4zcjg/view?usp=sharing
"Endless Ways" just hit me like a ton of bricks
https://allmediareviews.blogspot.com/2017/07/anathema-endless-ways.html
Last night's show was amazing! Setlist here (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2017/groove-buenos-aires-argentina-43e50f0b.html) I love how engaging these guys are with the crowd, they bring a lot of energy and fun. But I must say, Danny needs to begin a diet right now, he's put on a lot of weightThat must be a guitarist thing, aka the Steve Rothery effect :P
Last night's show was amazing! Setlist here (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2017/groove-buenos-aires-argentina-43e50f0b.html) I love how engaging these guys are with the crowd, they bring a lot of energy and fun. But I must say, Danny needs to begin a diet right now, he's put on a lot of weightAll of this, fantastic gig! I was in fucking trance during The Storm Before the Calm, and crowd went fucking nuts with Closer and Fragile Dreams :2metal: Loved how they improvised and extended some sections of all songs a bit, whole band was on fire. Vinny teased they were talking about maybe coming back next year, hope they do!
Last night's show was amazing! Setlist here (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2017/groove-buenos-aires-argentina-43e50f0b.html) I love how engaging these guys are with the crowd, they bring a lot of energy and fun. But I must say, Danny needs to begin a diet right now, he's put on a lot of weight
I don't really get it. This sounds like Anathema 101 to me, I hope the rest of the album is something different. I don't get it when people put out solo albums that are pretty much their band-lite. Good song, though.
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.
I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo. How did they vote for album of the year already?
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.
I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo. How did they vote for album of the year already?
I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo. How did they vote for album of the year already?
I think they do it as a year since the last awards, rather than best album of 2017?Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.
I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo. How did they vote for album of the year already?
I'm guessing it was a lot cheaper doing the ceremony now than in a couple of months
I think they do it as a year since the last awards, rather than best album of 2017?Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.
I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo. How did they vote for album of the year already?
I'm guessing it was a lot cheaper doing the ceremony now than in a couple of months
Daniel's solo album streaming here (https://clashmusic.com/news/album-stream-daniel-cavanagh-monochrome)
Daniel's solo album streaming here (https://clashmusic.com/news/album-stream-daniel-cavanagh-monochrome)
Seems like it's a stronger album than The Optimist in my opinion.
Seems like it's a stronger album than The Optimist in my opinion.
It's like Anathema lite, so not quite stronger than The Optimist but very good.
Anekke is nice on the tracks she sings on too.
I saw them a couple months back, Danny didn't seem to be into it as the other times I've seen them but Vincent was extatic. Now I'm worried that things are not going well with the band... :sad:Danny told me that the South American tour was rough for him because of the flying schedule, but he looked a little absent-minded in Tampere as well, though I assumed it was just him being tired.
There was some shouting for A Dying Wish and Sleepless which Danny and Vinny joked off, and Danny said "we wont play any death metal songs tonight" so they didn't seem too upset about it. I can kinda understand if Vinny would be frustrated more, because he had to fill in some shoes and do more with the keyboard, and for maybe half the show he kinda took the backseat at the back with no John available. But John being absent doesn't affect Danny much in terms of his responsibility on stage, yet maybe more on a personal level. I hope John returns though, I feel like him leaving the band would be sad not just because of what he brings musically but also him being so close with the brothers and having been in the band for so long. But hey it's just speculation. Hopefully whatever is up with his family (sickness perhaps?) will improve and he can return to the band.
He's not on this tour but whatever that means for his future is just speculating like I said. The only info Vinny gave was that John was home because his daughter needed him.
Could all be connected to Danny's weight gain as well. I'm not one to judge, being overweight myself, but weight gain can be related to going through personal stuff and maybe it has just been a rough year for him or something.Totally, I wouldn't be surprised if he's been going through a rough patch lately and his behavior and weight gain are just the tip of the iceberg.
“There are certain factions in the band and in the management that are push, push, push. There are people that veto and say ‘we aren’t doing it this way or this way’ and to be honest with you, I am looking forward to having that argument! It will be quite fun!” he laughs.I know Danny is being tongue-in-cheek here, but I hope this is not an indication of any real power struggle between him and Vincent.
“It’s quite funny how this band works. Vincent [Cavanagh] gets a lot of interviews and a lot of attention and he likes to think that he calls the shots, but to be honest with you, it’s me!” Cavanagh continues laughing and you can almost feel him winking down the phone at you while his brother listens from another bunk in the tour bus.
Have I missed something? I can't see anything that implies a conflict within the band.
https://metalwani.com/2017/12/interview-anathemas-dan-cavanagh-on-australian-tour-the-optimist-next-album.htmlQuote“There are certain factions in the band and in the management that are push, push, push. There are people that veto and say ‘we aren’t doing it this way or this way’ and to be honest with you, I am looking forward to having that argument! It will be quite fun!” he laughs.I know Danny is being tongue-in-cheek here, but I hope this is not an indication of any real power struggle between him and Vincent.
“It’s quite funny how this band works. Vincent [Cavanagh] gets a lot of interviews and a lot of attention and he likes to think that he calls the shots, but to be honest with you, it’s me!” Cavanagh continues laughing and you can almost feel him winking down the phone at you while his brother listens from another bunk in the tour bus.
There may be a conflict, but I don't think it is anything serious. You may be reading too much into it.Have I missed something? I can't see anything that implies a conflict within the band.
See the above posts.
It seems like both Cavanagh brothers have been off-form at various times, and you just don't say the following:https://metalwani.com/2017/12/interview-anathemas-dan-cavanagh-on-australian-tour-the-optimist-next-album.htmlQuote“There are certain factions in the band and in the management that are push, push, push. There are people that veto and say ‘we aren’t doing it this way or this way’ and to be honest with you, I am looking forward to having that argument! It will be quite fun!” he laughs.I know Danny is being tongue-in-cheek here, but I hope this is not an indication of any real power struggle between him and Vincent.
“It’s quite funny how this band works. Vincent [Cavanagh] gets a lot of interviews and a lot of attention and he likes to think that he calls the shots, but to be honest with you, it’s me!” Cavanagh continues laughing and you can almost feel him winking down the phone at you while his brother listens from another bunk in the tour bus.
...without there being more than a shred of truth about it. You just don't.
For their longevity, a break of probably at least two years might do them some good. There's probably a good reason why they had a 7-year gap between albums from 2003-10.
I accept that this is all speculation.
Upon the closing of their label Music for Nations after its purchase by Sony BMG, Anathema found itself without a record label, despite having completed an extensive tour of the UK with popular Finnish rock band HIM in April 2006. During their search for a new label, the band have adopted a more 'DIY' approach to music release, embracing the internet and releasing songs via their own website, for which fans may donate a monetary sum of their own choice. Despite the obvious lack of label-based tour support, the band continues to play dates across Europe, guitarist Danny Cavanagh also playing the odd low-key acoustic concert.
And then there's this, with a FB comment at the bottom from Danny. He also replied to the link to the article in Anathema's Twitter feed. I get where he's coming from, but it's an interesting look.Yeah, the article is pretty misleading, because Danny is the main songwriter, but the fact that he had to comment on it (plus that quote in the Metalwani intie) makes me wonder if he's envious of Vincent or feels he's not getting enough recognition.
https://www.hysteriamag.com/anathema-origin-species/ (https://www.hysteriamag.com/anathema-origin-species/)
Maybe they should just take a year off or something to charge their batteries. Compare their activity since WHBWH came out with basically a new album every 2 years followed by intense touring with the 7 year gap between A Natural Disaster and WHBWH. (I know they still toured a bit and were writing, but still)They had a 3-year gap between the latest 2 albums, which probably is about as much time as they can take off in the current state of the industry, but you have a point there.
Those comments may not mean much in isolation, but when you take into account the weird vibes that have been coming off the band lately, you can't help thinking something may be wrong.There may be a conflict, but I don't think it is anything serious. You may be reading too much into it.Have I missed something? I can't see anything that implies a conflict within the band.
See the above posts.
It seems like both Cavanagh brothers have been off-form at various times, and you just don't say the following:https://metalwani.com/2017/12/interview-anathemas-dan-cavanagh-on-australian-tour-the-optimist-next-album.htmlQuote“There are certain factions in the band and in the management that are push, push, push. There are people that veto and say ‘we aren’t doing it this way or this way’ and to be honest with you, I am looking forward to having that argument! It will be quite fun!” he laughs.I know Danny is being tongue-in-cheek here, but I hope this is not an indication of any real power struggle between him and Vincent.
“It’s quite funny how this band works. Vincent [Cavanagh] gets a lot of interviews and a lot of attention and he likes to think that he calls the shots, but to be honest with you, it’s me!” Cavanagh continues laughing and you can almost feel him winking down the phone at you while his brother listens from another bunk in the tour bus.
...without there being more than a shred of truth about it. You just don't.
For their longevity, a break of probably at least two years might do them some good. There's probably a good reason why they had a 7-year gap between albums from 2003-10.
I accept that this is all speculation.
Just saw something on Facebook about Anathema dropping out of Cruise to the Edge due to family reasons.
I wonder if this is related to why John Douglas had to take leave from the latest part of the tour.It doesn't imply which family it is, but I have a feeling it's related to the illness/issues in John's family. Hopefully nothing too serious...
Jamie is taking some time off: https://www.facebook.com/125049763628/posts/10156527803318629
True, but this time they're going without a bassist altogether, using backing tracks instead (I assume). I saw Dark Tranquillity play without a bassist in 2013 and the sound lacked oomph, because pre-recorded bass can never beat the real thing.Jamie is taking some time off: https://www.facebook.com/125049763628/posts/10156527803318629
Well this isn't the first time Jamie's taken a leave of absense.
True, but this time they're going without a bassist altogether, using backing tracks instead (I assume). I saw Dark Tranquillity play without a bassist in 2013 and the sound lacked oomph, because pre-recorded bass can never beat the real thing.
Wasn't Danny being cryptic and disgruntled a few months back too? I wonder if this is related or a whole new issue for the band. On an unrelated note, The Optimist has actually grown on me after disliking it initially.About half a year ago Danny revealed to Prog magazine that he was addicted to Valium for a few years after Distant Satellites: https://www.loudersound.com/features/anathema-exploring-their-past-their-present-and-their-future He managed to overcome it, but he's on anti-depressants now, so that may have an effect.
I'm assuming that things are going good since they are announcing tour dates and stuff.Yeah, seems so. They posted an intie with Vincent regarding the upcoming Polish show, and while he comes across as kind of angry (WRITING ALL THE ANSWERS IN CAPS LOCK DOESN'T HELP), he revealed that they've been writing new stuff: https://www.facebook.com/notes/anathema/interview-with-vincent/10155578312821297
To be fair, they were far from bad the last time I saw them. It just didn't feel like the energy was quite right. Danny, in particular, seemed kind of pissed off throughout the show.
Wasn't Danny being cryptic and disgruntled a few months back too? I wonder if this is related or a whole new issue for the band. On an unrelated note, The Optimist has actually grown on me after disliking it initially.About half a year ago Danny revealed to Prog magazine that he was addicted to Valium for a few years after Distant Satellites: https://www.loudersound.com/features/anathema-exploring-their-past-their-present-and-their-future He managed to overcome it, but he's on anti-depressants now, so that may have an effect.
Regarding Jamie, he actually worked as their tour manager last year and led me onto the tour bus to do my interview with Danny. He seemed to be in good spirits, but I wouldn't be surprised if having to oversee everything and everyone on the road got a little too much for him. But who knows - band dynamics are bound to be complex when there are not one, but two families involved. :dunno:
Yeah, that interview is all over the place. I felt like the answer on the family stuff was a jab at Oasis for some reason.I thought it might be a subtle dig at Danny for that "Vinnie thinks he's the leader" comment, but you may be right.
Yeah, that interview is all over the place. I felt like the answer on the family stuff was a jab at Oasis for some reason.I thought it might be a subtle dig at Danny for that "Vinnie thinks he's the leader" comment, but you may be right.
It's such a shame that the current situation is so weird, because everything seemed to be so stable in the WHBWH/Weather Systems era, but it must've been naive to assume it'd be smooth sailing for the rest of their career.
Interesting. I wouldn't argue against that bunch of songs, but it seems odd to have a "best of" without a song like One Last Goodbye, or indeed any pre-WHBWH song beside Are You There? (I don't really count J'ai Fait One Promesse)They could've included the Hindsight version of OLG, but I suppose they chose Are You There? instead, because that arrangement has become the definitive version of that song, and they probably wanted to focus on the Kscope full-length albums. J'ai fait une promesse is a weird choice from Falling Deeper though - Kingdom would've been more natural IMO, since they actually played it live a few times.
Not a single song from their early albums? How can this be called "best of"? Unless it is the best of from their last 4 albums.Kscope doesn't have rights to the albums before Hindsight.
Compilations suck anyway.
My body is ready
My body is ready
Hopefully it's better than their last album :corn
Distant Satellites seems to get overlooked. While I would rank it below WHBWH and Weather Systems, it's really like splitting hairs.
I also feel The Optimist was not far off (I know others didn't).
"Endless Ways" is gorgeous.
I hope the new album is also a kind of "rebirth". They did everything they could already in that style.
I would have liked to see them explore the electronic side a little more, but the've probably moved passed that at this point.Vincent and John are very keen on their electronic stuff, this part of their sound is probably here to stay in some form. They did a tour in 2018 where some songs were acoustic versions and some where billed as being 'ambient' versions - some of them worked better than others but I think the best way to tell would be from a studio recording rather than going in blind in a live setting. They tried Thin Air (the riff sounded really good on synth), Can't Let Go, Closer and Distant Satellites like that at the show I saw and iirc they tried The Lost Song Part 3 like that too elsewhere.
Anathema have gone on indefinite hiatus.This is fucking heartbreaking. What a sad day. I hope that they'll eventually come back stronger, someday.
https://www.facebook.com/125049763628/posts/10158682760833629/
-Marc.
...and Duncan Patterson stated (https://feedbackroommusic.blogspot.com/2020/08/duncan-patterson-interview.html) that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story....
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Not sure that has anything to do with anything, and the Clearance sale is likely an attempt to try and raise some revenue sooner rather than later. I agree that deleting their Twitter is pretty odd, but they haven't deleted their Facebook page so they haven't abandoned their social media presence....and Duncan Patterson stated (https://feedbackroommusic.blogspot.com/2020/08/duncan-patterson-interview.html) that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story....
To be fair, Duncan Patterson hasn't been in the band since Alternative 4, so I don't know if him not wanting to come back really signifies much.
My bad, should've specified that it was about live shows - he did the Acoustic Resonance tour with Danny and Vincent in Latin America just last year and even in February this year, he was talking about what a great experience it was: https://www.facebook.com/notes/anathema-colombia/grace-road-duncan-patterson-interview-2020/2656595384388619/...and Duncan Patterson stated (https://feedbackroommusic.blogspot.com/2020/08/duncan-patterson-interview.html) that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story....
To be fair, Duncan Patterson hasn't been in the band since Alternative 4, so I don't know if him not wanting to come back really signifies much.
Back in May, Vince had posted videos about how the new album was going, chatting about stuff. It's a big turnaround. The message was so cryptic, I thought.Yeah, someone must have fucked up big time to make them go from there to where we are now.
Didn't they have a lot of money invested in a tour that didn't happen due to Covid? I thought that possibly hit the band quite hard. Then again I'm sure there could have been another solution than just break up the band if that was the only reason.
Hello all.
There will be an upcoming solo album from Daniel Cavanagh coming soon called “Cellar Door”. The album is written and recording will begin as soon as is convenient.
Many blessings and wishing you all much happiness.
Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.
TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.
I know this not new information but holy fuck Untouchable Parts 1&2 are just so perfect!
Every time this thread is bumped and there is no news of them getting back together I get more sad.
I know this not new information but holy fuck Untouchable Parts 1&2 are just so perfect!
Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.
TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.
There's a lot of buzz about Daniel and reported toxic behavior behind the scenes towards fans with some stories going around. Rumors about worse interactions with female fans and a lot of people saying he's in a dire situation with lawyers involved and such.
It's hard to know what's truth and what's not but the fact he's been selling off guitars and keyboards to earn quick money doesn't really look too good.
Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.
TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.
There's a lot of buzz about Daniel and reported toxic behavior behind the scenes towards fans with some stories going around. Rumors about worse interactions with female fans and a lot of people saying he's in a dire situation with lawyers involved and such.
It's hard to know what's truth and what's not but the fact he's been selling off guitars and keyboards to earn quick money doesn't really look too good.
Have there been any updates on this? I keep seeing those listings for guitars / keyboards (sometimes discounted) which lines up with what you're saying here, but this is the only time I've heard about it.
We want to let you know that unfortunately life has been very tough on one of our band members, Dan, in the last two years, and He has attempted suicide.
He has has been under a chronic and profound depression for years.
He survived the suicide attempt and is getting better. It’s a miracle he survived the last two years at all. He never left the house for a year, and contrary to theories, he was never institutionalised in any way and has never in his life had contact from the police, or the psychiatric services.
Dan is a reasonably decent human being who seems to have become lost. Hasn’t been himself at all for years.
He did go voluntarily to hospital once for a few days, to avoid the ability to commit suicide, but apparently the NHS facility was even more depressing. The NHS need help and we are pledging 10% of our GoFundMe to the mind charity.
We are now working to bring something good to the world and Dan wants to improve as a human being and be a better man, and never do anything so stupid again. His doctor is also trying his best to prevent suicide happening again.
He is under professional mental health care and is very dedicated to 12 step of addiction recovery, of which he is very active. Dan has been diagnosed with profound depression, daily chronic horrific anxiety, complex post traumatic stress disorder for 25 - 30 years, and he has ADHD. He has not been himself at all for 4 years now, at least.
Many of you share this type of struggle. Maybe music is part of healing.
Hard lessons have been well learned. This was the hardest. Lessons were learned. Maybe that’s why we have hard times.
We wish Dan a good recovery. Obviously we were not sure if posting this was a good idea, but the truth is the truth, and perhaps it’s time you heard it.
Blessing and love and forgiveness ✨
We truly hope all of you , every single one of you without exception, live happy and blessed lives.
Yours in healing
Weather Systems band and management
And while suicide is no laughing matter and I fully sympathize with anyone with mental issues, this post reads really weird to me. Maybe it's all the rumors that have been circulating around about Dan's behavior and him being the reason the band split. But certain parts of this post reads really weird to me like "Dan is a reasonably decent human being" or towards the end "the truth is the truth and it's time you heard it". Maybe I'm reading too much into it but my first thought when reading the post was that it felt almost like something he wrote himself - possibly to rally some people behind him or deflect some of the negativity he has faced due to the rumors.
Either way I hope he's fine because I still love Anathema and it pains me that the band doesn't exist anymore, still the 'drama' that has followed their disbandment does leave a bit of a sour after taste and between this post, him begging for donations for the new Weather Systems project as well as selling off instruments used during the Anathema years something just feels off. Like we're in a M Night Shyamalan movie and I'm waiting for the twist.
I’m glad it wasn’t just me that thought that Facebook post was well weird. The whole tonw and wording of that post seems .. off. It doesn’t really read as empathetic either, some of it makes me wonder whether I’m supposed to know this at all (does ‘Dan’ want the world to read he’s attempted suicide?). Who is posting on the Anathema Facebook page anyway! It’s been weird stuff for a year or two now. Such a shame, they were a great band. I hope they’re all alright (but it doesn’t seem like it.)
Yeah, I'm sure a full time career in the music industry is very hard indeed.
You said you only care about the music but then talked about how you care about Dan and his mental health.
Personally, I'm fascinated by artistic creation. I can't imagine not being interested in the artists.
If I'm a big fan of a band I do start to care more about the individuals as well. If I'm just a casual fan I don't really care so much. Then again with something like a break up, especially one that feels 'unclear', I still kinda seek information because it would help me understand and move on I suppose. I know the artists don't owe us an explanation or anything, but to me at least it helps knowing.
Am I the only one that doesn't feel the need or desire to understand everything going on with the members of the band?
That amazes me, and it's a big reason I feel for musicians.
All I care about is the music that they have given us. It's unfortunate that the band is done. Life goes on, we live on, and we still have the music.
In the end, the band members are still human beings just like you and me. They have feelings, emotions, and are capable of doing good and bad. They also have good and bad emotions. Most musicians are not happy people in the inside, and it takes a lot just to go up on that stage every night and play the music for the people. You're taking a good chunk of your life to tour and that alone can be mentally challenging. Not everyone can handle that stress of touring. And it's not just touring, it's also dealing with the music industry and business that also plays a huge role in a musicians mental health. Some musicians have left touring or making music for the masses, because of the music industry killing that passion for them.
Man if it is real and all, then you lot should be completely ashamed of yourselves. Completely disgraceful reaction from all of you. We're supposed to be taking mental health seriously in 2022.
Man if it is real and all, then you lot should be completely ashamed of yourselves. Completely disgraceful reaction from all of you. We're supposed to be taking mental health seriously in 2022.
This thread piqued my interest in the band. I listened to most of Weather Systems and so far I am really enjoying it. Should I start at the beginning of the discography and work my way though from there?
This thread piqued my interest in the band. I listened to most of Weather Systems and so far I am really enjoying it. Should I start at the beginning of the discography and work my way though from there?
You can't go wrong with any Anathema album, as far as I'm concerned, but if WS is what you're enjoying a lot, I'd go for WHBWH next, followed by Distant Satellites. After that, I'd go chronologically from the beginning.
Distant Satellites to their early material is a pretty big jump, especially if you're not a death doom fan. They're kind of like Katatonia in that it's really better just to work an album at a time backwards or forwards. More than a few albums in any direction is going to be a more drastic change in sound. They're closer to Ulver than they are to AC/DC.
Distant Satellites to their early material is a pretty big jump, especially if you're not a death doom fan. They're kind of like Katatonia in that it's really better just to work an album at a time backwards or forwards. More than a few albums in any direction is going to be a more drastic change in sound. They're closer to Ulver than they are to AC/DC.
Yep, agree with this. What's your favorite era/album in their discography?
Distant Satellites to their early material is a pretty big jump, especially if you're not a death doom fan. They're kind of like Katatonia in that it's really better just to work an album at a time backwards or forwards. More than a few albums in any direction is going to be a more drastic change in sound. They're closer to Ulver than they are to AC/DC.
Yep, agree with this. What's your favorite era/album in their discography?
I like the 10s material best. Weather Systems, The Optimist, and We're Here Because We're Here are my top three. The Vincent/Lee vocal interplay is a good part of it, not too many bands have a dynamic like that. I enjoy the early material as well, but I don't have as much time invested into it yet. It's weird, I was aware of them back in the mid-00s when I was really into Katatonia, Amorphis, Porcupine Tree and such, but I heard some of their material and it didn't connect with me at the time. It wasn't until a couple years after WS came out that I heard it, it really clicked and unlocked the earlier albums as well.
I kind of hate to think about it, because then you have to hold everyone to that standard, and we lose David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Marvin Gaye, and countless others.
This might be a bit of controversial comment but…Not any other information than what you have (and to keep us on the same page, I'm referring to the story that keeps popping up on Reddit, that he was in the house of someone vaguely relevant to the story, had some kind of mental break with reality and some kind of phone was found). Either there's some sort of credible allegation that's being investigated right now - just judging by how the band has folded, has been completely silent and their store even emptied out - or there's someone who hates him so much they don't mind spreading allegations about that.
If Daniel Cavanagh is an actual p*dophile or otherwise some variant of child sex offender, I think I’d have to completely boycott his music, as much as I do like it.
Again, those are just rumors and allegations, but they came up frequently enough in my search for what happened behind the band breakup and idk… the whole thing left an awful taste in my mouth. Does anyone else have a take on this? Or information?
I kind of hate to think about it, because then you have to hold everyone to that standard, and we lose David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Marvin Gaye, and countless others.
Are you implying that all of those musicians are child molesters?
I love distant satellites and listen to it often. Next to weather systems, its my favorite album of theirs.
I have listed to The Optimist maybe twice total. It is not for me
I love distant satellites and listen to it often. Next to weather systems, its my favorite album of theirs.
I have listed to The Optimist maybe twice total. It is not for me
I actually couldn't imagine just listening to something twice and giving up. I think a minimum of like 5 listens is almost needed and sometimes maybe coming back after a while (like few months) can help with fresh perspective. If anything for me, the albums that click the fastest (like 1 or 2 listens) are usually the ones who fall off the most because there's not as much to find once you listen to the album 10-15 times. :lol
But I can imagine it's different for others but I know at least for myself some of my favorite albums of all time were not albums I loved after 2 listens.
Just want to pour one out for such an incredible band. Been listening to them alot lately, and I hope one day they can find their way back.
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From memory this is Danny without Vince and Lee, right? Meh.
I'm still surprised and irritated to have heard absolutely nothing more from Vincent on the breakup.
From memory this is Danny without Vince and Lee, right? Meh.
I'm still surprised and irritated to have heard absolutely nothing more from Vincent on the breakup.
It's Danny and Daniel Cardoso I think. Vincent is working on his own side project called The_Radicant or something I believe going into more of an electronic direction. Sucks we haven't heard much from the others I agree, but might be one of those situations where they think it's better to just forget and move on.
Lee needs her own project. She's too good to just be a backing vocalist with the occasional lead on the last few albums.
If you have to say it isn't a scam...
PLEASE donate if you can - these donations are all we have had to live on since 2020, and they are paying for music production and a potentially life saving medical treatment program.
The bill is big so please help if you can.
Let’s get to that total if possible!
It would feel less like a scam if they were more open about the whole process of what's happening and also if Danny hadn't sold off most of his music equipment at the start of the pandemic. That's why I haven't donated myself because there hasn't really been any signs of progress in this, there's whispers of Danny sinking all the money into legal fees and you combine that with him selling all his guitars and it just feels 'off'.
If this was a proper gofundme campaign type situation where you could see different packages and stuff, I would consider chipping in but this current situation feels a bit like "Give us your money and trust me it will go to an album".