Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)

[wolfking]

12:5 is amazing, which is why we don't really need another live acoustic release, especially considering the state of the band at the moment.

[pogoowner]

12:5 is amazing, which is why we don't really need another live acoustic release, especially considering the state of the band at the moment.

Yeah, I think 12:5 is probably one of the top three albums they've ever released, but I'm not itching for another acoustic release of any kind, especially if it's not new material.

[MirzekDT]

I was at one of the acoustic show on the acoustic tour this CD/DVD will be from and it was amazing. It was really, really, really different from 12:5 acoustic type of show with the whole 70's living room atmosphere and the type of energy they were sending to people and I loved it. The songs were changed much more than on 12:5 and were even more interesting (and I like 12:5 a lot), I don't remember any changes that didn't fit

I was looking forward to this release since the day I attended the acoustic show.

And maybe this will be also studio album but it definitely will be a live album as well so don't worry about that

[Phoenix87x]

Took a trip down Remedy Lane today. Hot damn, I forgot how good this album was 

[Zantera]

I wouldn't put Remedy Lane in my top3 PoS albums, but it is a very good album. 

[jammindude]

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG (J-Dude proceeds to pee himself profusely)

PAIN OF SALVATION ANNOUNCE A NORTH AMERICAN TOUR!!!!

https://www.prog-sphere.com/uncategorized/pain-salvation-announce-north-american-tour/

PAIN OF SALVATION North American Tour:

9/10: Atlanta, GA @ The Loft (Midweek Mayhem @ ProgPower USA)

9/13: Atlanta, GA @ Center Stage (ProgPower USA)

9/14: Springfield, VA @ Empire

9/16: Dunellen, NJ @ Roxy and Dukes

9/17: Cambridge, MA @ Middle East

9/18: New York, NY @ The Marlin Room at Webster Hall

9/19: Montreal, QC @ Theatre Plaza

9/20: Toronto ON @ Coda

9/21: Chicago, IL @ Reggie’s

9/24: Seattle, WA @ El Corazon

9/26: Las Vegas, NV @ Cheyenne Saloon

9/27: Ramona, CA @ Ramona Mainstage

9/28: Whittier, CA @ The Center Theatre

9/30: Mexico City, MX @ Jose Cuervo Salon

[Cyclopssss]

Hate to say it, but Daniel looks bad in that pic.... that illness must have taken a lot out of him.

[SoundscapeMN]

that makeup show in Minnesota?..I heard good word a few months ago they were coming back here..

[SoundscapeMN]

https://www.prog-sphere.com/uncategorized/pain-salvation-announce-north-american-tour/

I just reread the whole press release. Is this not new news? Probably not until 2015 tho, given Daniel's events of this year.

PAIN OF SALVATION are currently working on their upcoming release through InsideOut, entitled “Falling Home.”

[Zantera]

The "Falling Home" album or re-arranged songs (or whatever it ends up being) is something we've talked about in this thread before, so not exactly news.

[King Postwhore]

Cambridge Ma you say?!

[Ultimetalhead]

The title Falling Home got me super excited. Considering the amount of references to "falling" in both of the TPE albums, I thought it might have something to do with Part III.

Nope, just some acoustic remakes. Yay.

[bout to crash]

Surprise! They're not coming anywhere close to Denver. I may be in CA in late September, but not the area they're going to.
Lame. Not really a band I'd travel for anymore.

Who the fuck plays Dunellen?!

[Nick]

It's funny how excited I would have been about this years ago. Now I might not even make the hour trip to the NJ show, despite loving the guys who run the prog house.

[bout to crash]

Yeah, I feel ya. I'd drive an hour, but I ain't leaving the state. SW is the only person I love enough to do that for these days 

[elyster]

Awesome show last night at ProgPower!  Only played songs from Entropia and TPE - with a break in the middle where Daniel got behind the drums and the guitarist sang Love Gun.

This was my first time ever seeing them live.  I was worried at first since he is the only original member now and it would feel like a cover band, or his solo act.  Which in a way I guess it really is, but they sounded great.

Looking forward to hearing Remedy Lane in its entirety Saturday night.   

And Daniel looked like he was having an absolute blast on stage.  Huge smile on his face the whole time and hitting a majority of the high notes.  Great to see him healthy again.

[Zantera]

I really hope they're having such a blast playing older songs, that the next album will be closer to Entropia/One Hour/Remedy Lane/The Perfect Element rather than a continuation of Road Salt.

[Xenon]

I love both road salt, but the only thing I love more than those albums is TPE, so I would not mind that.

[Ultimetalhead]

As long as they don't go back to Scarsick or BE I can't imagine I'd complain.

[wolfking]

I really hope they're having such a blast playing older songs, that the next album will be closer to Entropia/One Hour/Remedy Lane/The Perfect Element rather than a continuation of Road Salt.

We can only hope.

As long as they don't go back to Scarsick or BE I can't imagine I'd complain.

I love those two albums.

[Zantera]

As long as they don't go back to Scarsick or BE I can't imagine I'd complain.

I still think BE is their best. TPE is not far behind, but BE is perfect IMO.

[ariich]

As long as they don't go back to Scarsick or BE I can't imagine I'd complain.

I still think BE is their best. TPE is not far behind, but BE is perfect IMO.

It's not often we agree on a band's best output, but this is one of those occasions!

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

RL FTW

[Ultimetalhead]

Be could have been (lololol) good if it wasn't for the preponderance of "mood setters" getting in the way of making something that sounds nice. I don't usually mind talking in my music (Ziltoid, for one), but my god there's so much dead time. Every time it seems like the album's picking up, there's some horrifically overacted dialogue that totally kills the momentum. Freakin' concept albums man.

[Zantera]

I can see the criticism even if I don't agree. I suck at remembering the titles (because they're weird for the most part), but that short song with all the vocal samples of people "talking" to God has always been quite powerful to me, and I love it. It's very much an atmospheric mood-piece, but works perfect as such. I also love the spoken word part with Daniel talking to some girl about her handling the stick in the car, and she replies it's an automatic. It always cranks me up. 

[ariich]

I can see the criticism even if I don't agree. I suck at remembering the titles (because they're weird for the most part), but that short song with all the vocal samples of people "talking" to God has always been quite powerful to me, and I love it. It's very much an atmospheric mood-piece, but works perfect as such. I also love the spoken word part with Daniel talking to some girl about her handling the stick in the car, and she replies it's an automatic. It always cranks me up. 

Agreed on all counts. Vocari Dei (literally, talking to God) is beautiful.

[Ultimetalhead]

I can see the criticism even if I don't agree. I suck at remembering the titles (because they're weird for the most part), but that short song with all the vocal samples of people "talking" to God has always been quite powerful to me, and I love it. It's very much an atmospheric mood-piece, but works perfect as such. I also love the spoken word part with Daniel talking to some girl about her handling the stick in the car, and she replies it's an automatic. It always cranks me up. 

That's the bit that bothers me the most, really. The album spends so much time trying to establish itself as this massive creative force that has to be taken super seriously and then lays that whole discussion on you. When you have something like that so close to Vocari Dei, it's jarring and weird.

[Zantera]

An album I wanted to bring some more focus on is One Hour by the Concrete Lake, which is IMO a really underrated album and kinda falls between the cracks, since it's the follow-up to one of the better debut albums out there (Entropia) and was followed-up with two albums that are generally considered to be the band's two best albums. (The Perfect Element and Remedy Lane)

I'm not saying One Hour is in my top3 PoS albums, but I think it's pretty underrated. It has some really strong songs like Home, Handful of Nothing, New Years Eve and Inside. A really nice album IMO.

[SoundscapeMN]

I like One Hour more than anything they've done the last 10 years. And I imagine I'm not alone. So if rating it their 4th best record means it's underrated, I'm not sure how much higher it could be rated.

Is it undermentioned/not talked about, referenced enough? perhaps.

[Zantera]

It's probably my fifth favorite. Or fourth. My top 3 has always been BE, The Perfect Element and Entropia. Remedy Lane and One Hour would be nr4 and 5, though I change my mind on the order. As much as I don't care for their current direction, I actually really enjoyed RS2. It wasn't a bad album at all IMO, and I quite enjoyed it, even if the 70's/retro sound overall is kinda played out at this point. A friend brought up a good point that the RS albums would have made one strong album, and I can see that. Take the best from RS1 and RS2 and you have a really good album, whereas now it's one decent album and one pretty good, but none of them come close to the awesomeness of classic PoS.

[seasonsinthesky]

did anyone order the PE1 or RL vinyls? are the side splits crappy (i.e. quick fadeouts)?

[Xenon]

Be could have been (lololol) good if it wasn't for the preponderance of "mood setters" getting in the way of making something that sounds nice. I don't usually mind talking in my music (Ziltoid, for one), but my god there's so much dead time. Every time it seems like the album's picking up, there's some horrifically overacted dialogue that totally kills the momentum. Freakin' concept albums man.

As usual, I agree with George Carlin.

[senecadawg2]

Remedy Lane in full, live... Holy hell 

Incredible. I'm lost for words.

[goo-goo]

Remedy Lane in full, live... Holy hell 

Incredible. I'm lost for words.

So what happened? I've read that PoS had to start the set again and seems like the promoter was  a bit upset about it.

[elyster]

Yeah they had a giant curtain for the stage between acts.  For POS they opened it early and it was just silence for about 5 minutes, then piped in Remedy Lane (the instrumental) and they eventually walked on stage and started.  Daniel seemed to think it was a bit of a lame way to start.  So they walked off, closed the curtain again, waited another 5 minutes.  Piped in RL, opened curtain near ending and came on stage and started playing.

And it was...well...wow.   My life is now complete.