Author Topic: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged) (Read 453359 times)

Zantera · « **Reply #1855 on:** December 27, 2012, 05:15:39 PM »

Remedy Lane would be nr4 or 5 for me. BE, TPE and Entropia over it, Road Salt Two tied or so.

MirzekDT · « **Reply #1856 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:10:23 PM »

Quote from: Adami on August 09, 2012, 08:15:44 PM

1. The production is just awful, despite whatever BS excuse they came up with about wanting it to sound vintage....it doesn't, it sounds like crap.

Well Road Salt production is one of my favorite ever I absolutely love it and I don't care how it was created it's great. I really dislike when some people think they know how good production sounds, that's nothing against you, but production quality is as subjective as is actual music itself.

And I disagree about music not telling the story on Road Salt too. No Way, Sisters, Darkness Of Mine, Where It Hurts, Innocence, Healing Now, To The Shoreline, Break Darling Break, 1979, Of Salt, Through The Distance, The Physics Of Gridlock are you trying to say that music on all these songs doesn't tell a story together with the lyrics? Are you kidding me?

Adami · « **Reply #1857 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:11:50 PM »

I'm saying the albums don't tell a cohesive story.

It's cool you love the production though.

Oh sorry, had to go back to re-read my post to see what you meant by the story part. And yes, I think the music is very pretty and at times fits the subject of the song just fine, but the music on quite a few songs is just kind of there. And having emotional sounding music over emotional lyrics doesn't necessarily mean the music is telling a story.

MirzekDT · « **Reply #1858 on:** December 28, 2012, 04:14:22 PM »

Yeah you are right, but on those songs that I listed as examples I also feel the music alone tells the majority of story or feeling, especially in 1979, Darkness Of Mine, Break Darling Break, Of Salt... they are not just both emotional (the music and lyrcis) they are showing same emotions which means the music is supporting the lyrcis a lot which means it's part of telling the story...

Adami · « **Reply #1859 on:** December 28, 2012, 04:20:29 PM »

Quote from: MirzekDT on December 28, 2012, 04:14:22 PM

Yeah you are right, but on those songs that I listed as examples I also feel the music alone tells the majority of story or feeling, especially in 1979, Darkness Of Mine, Break Darling Break, Of Salt... they are not just both emotional (the music and lyrcis) they are showing same emotions which means the music is supporting the lyrcis a lot which means it's part of telling the story...

Oh I agree to a degree. Of Salt is actually one of my favorites.

And this isn't a complaint anymore (I've grown slightly more fond of the albums since august) but when I said a story I didn't just mean the music also conveying the emotion. I just remember on the older albums, the music took you on an emotional journey, and now that journey isn't really there. The songs are about one thing generally and don't go anywhere. The only song that musically does that is Sisters, but I just can't too emotionally invested in a story about Daniel standing outside with his wife's sister and almost but not sleeping with her.

MirzekDT · « **Reply #1860 on:** December 29, 2012, 05:24:09 PM »

Well, yes the journey isn't there that's right, I don't see it as a problem but now I finally see what you meant and that's a lot different than what your original post seemed like

And BTW I still don't get why Daniel didn't include Of Salt on regular album it's so awesome. I kinf of get it with Break Darling Break even though I love that one also... Of course I have special editions of both albums but I miss it very much on my vinyl version of the album.

Adami · « **Reply #1861 on:** December 29, 2012, 05:27:34 PM »

Quote from: MirzekDT on December 29, 2012, 05:24:09 PM

Well, yes the journey isn't there that's right, I don't see it as a problem but now I finally see what you meant and that's a lot different than what your original post seemed like

And BTW I still don't get why Daniel didn't include Of Salt on regular album it's so awesome. I kinf of get it with Break Darling Break even though I love that one also... Of course I have special editions of both albums but I miss it very much on my vinyl version of the album.

I haven't a clue. Of Salt is purely amazing.

I think one thing that really soured my view of the album were how the credits were written. Daniel is far and away my favorite singer, lyricist, song writer etc, but his ego is REALLY making him hard to handle. Especially on the RS albums.

I just miss the One Hour through Be line up a lot

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Lynxo · « **Reply #1862 on:** December 30, 2012, 07:45:28 AM »

Quote from: Adami on December 29, 2012, 05:27:34 PM

I just miss the One Hour through Be line up a lot .

Me too. That line up produced the best lines of albums of any band I've ever listened to, including DT. Remedy Lane is by far my favorite, there's just something magical about that album. It's a really emotional and personal album.

Adami · « **Reply #1863 on:** January 07, 2013, 04:04:25 PM »

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35311.0

One Hour survivor starting now!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO VOTE DAMN YOU!

wolfking · « **Reply #1864 on:** January 07, 2013, 07:45:34 PM »

Will vote in this tonight bitch!!

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #1865 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:16:43 PM »

Announcing European acoustic tour, next release and Russian shows!

Kicking off activities in 2013, Swedish Pain of Salvation are ready to embark on more worldwide touring. The upcoming European tour in April will be exclusively acoustic based and Pain of Salvation will be joined for the 3 weeks of dates by Dutch singer/songwriter Anneke Van Giersbergen (ex The Gathering) and Árstíðir from Iceland, making this a remarkably interesting package.

The tour is to coincide with Pain of Salvation’s upcoming album release via InsideOutMusic, featuring newly recorded acoustic versions of hand picked Pain of Salvation songs. More details about this special album project will be made public soon.

These are all the dates of the European tour:

PAIN OF SALVATION - ACOUSTIC 2013
special guests: Anneke Van Giersbergen & Árstíðir

03.04.2013 – Krakow (Poland) @ Kwadrat
04.04.2013 – Warsaw (Poland) @ Progresja
05.04.2013 – Prague (Czech Republic) @ Klub Nova Chmelnice
06.04.2013 – Bratislava (Slovakia) @ Majestic Music Club
07.04.2013 – Budapest (Hungary) @ Club 202
08.04.2013 – Wien (Austria) @ Szene
10.04.2013 – Bologna (Italy) @ Estragon
11.04.2013 – Rome (Italy) @ Orion
12.04.2013 – Milano (Italy) @ Magazzini Generali
13.04.2013 – Yverdon (Switzerland) @ Amalgame
14.04.2013 – Toul (France) @ Chez Paulette
15.04.2013 – London (UK) @ The Garage
17.04.2013 – Paris (France) @ Le Trabendo
18.04.2013 – Pratteln (Switzerland) @ Z7
19.04.2013 – Weert (The Netherlands) @ De Bosuil
20.04.2013 – Zoetermeer (The Netherlands) @ Boerderij
21.04.2013 – Essen (Germany) @ Turock

Prior to the European tour, Pain of Salvation will also be perfoming two regular headline shows in Russia:

16.02.2013 – Moscow (Russia) @ Moscow Concert Hall
17.02.2013 – St. Petersburg (Russia) @ Arctica

Furthermore, Pain of Salvation will be heading out to tour in North America in May. More details about these shows in the USA and Canada will follow soon...

https://www.painofsalvation.com/2011/acoustic-tour-announced/

Zantera · « **Reply #1866 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:18:01 PM »

No gigs here, but I hope everyone gets to see them.

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #1867 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:26:43 PM »

Not sure whether to go to the London show or not. If the setlist is similar to the one-off they did last summer, I probably will.

Elite · « **Reply #1868 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:30:41 PM »

FUCK. Of course they have to play in the Netherlands while I am in Glasgow. I return on the 20th, so if I get back early enough (which I won't) I could catch them, but this is just not gonna work. DAMN.

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #1869 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:37:49 PM »

No Belgrade. Eh. Missed out on seeing them with Johan anyway

wasteland · « **Reply #1870 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:41:02 PM »

I've already seen the only remaning member of what once was POS performing better stuff on another stage, so I'm passing over this.

SoundscapeMN · « **Reply #1871 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:08:18 PM »

https://www.station-4.com/viewItem.aspx?ID=1727

St.Paul, Minnesota on Saturday May 11th.

Elite · « **Reply #1872 on:** February 05, 2013, 01:22:37 AM »

I know most here are probably already aware of this, but please take your time to vote in the Pain of Salvation survivor in the Polls/Survivor section

More voters is nice and gives more accurate results. Currently up is The Perfect Element.

crazyaga · « **Reply #1873 on:** February 05, 2013, 01:27:55 AM »

Used to be a HUGE fan of them, but.... they aged a bit

ariich · « **Reply #1874 on:** February 05, 2013, 03:05:52 PM »

Interesting, if it's in support of an acoustic album then I wonder if it'll be a light set. Would make sense with Anneke van Giersbergen supporting. Think I might have to go!

Scorpion · « **Reply #1875 on:** March 30, 2013, 06:36:10 AM »

So I've been on a mad PoS binge lately (thanks Elite!), and I have to say that Remedy Lane is probably my favourite album, and People Passing By my favourite song. Though that might change, as I'm not really familiar with OHBTCL, Scarsick and the Road Salts (though I have checked out Ending Themes on YouTube, so I do know some songs from those albums). Will probably eventually get the rest of the discog as well.

Zantera · « **Reply #1876 on:** March 30, 2013, 07:19:40 AM »

Probably time for an album ranking because we haven't done those in ages.

1. BE
2. The Perfect Element
3. Entropia
4. Road Salt Two
5. Remedy Lane
6. One Hour By the Concrete Lake
7. Road Salt One
8. Scarsick

Elite · « **Reply #1877 on:** March 30, 2013, 07:23:07 AM »

Quote from: Scorpion on March 30, 2013, 06:36:10 AM

(thanks Elite!)

You're absolutely welcome

Album ranking you say? Okay:

1. One Hour by the Concrete Lake
2. The Perfect Element
3. Remedy Lane
4. "BE"
5. Entropia (which really still is fucking awesome, although 5th place seems so low)

6. Road Salt Two
7. Scarsick

8. Road Salt One

EDIT: I messed up and turned RS1 and 2 around, this is how I meant it to be.

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #1878 on:** March 30, 2013, 07:24:12 AM »

1. The Perfect Element
2. Remedy Lane
3. Entropia

4. BE
5. Road Salt Two

6. Road Salt One

7. One Hour By The Concrete Lake
8. Scarsick

List is boring and predictable

abydos · « **Reply #1879 on:** March 30, 2013, 08:33:40 AM »

Damn, I should keep a .txt around just for that. Last time I compared it to the standings of years ago it was the same.

1. The Perfect Element
2. Remedy Lane
3. BE
4. One Hour By The Concrete Lkae
5. Entropia

6. Scarsick

And I pretend the rest don't exist now. Almost put Scarsick in that list too but it has some good moments but for me every song is ruined at one point or another.

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #1880 on:** March 30, 2013, 09:07:01 AM »

The Perfect Element
Road Salt 2
Remedy Lane

Entropia

Road Salt 1

Scarsick
Be

Haven't listened to One Hour yet. Remedy Lane used to be my top, but that was before Road Salt 2 and before The Perfect Element clicked with me.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #1881 on:** March 30, 2013, 11:30:51 AM »

Road Salt is a really good album.I don't understand the hate it gets.

Zantera · « **Reply #1882 on:** March 30, 2013, 12:43:38 PM »

Part 1 or 2? I love part 2 and think it's one of their best albums (hence why I ranked it 4), the first one for me has two really sweet tracks (No Way and Sisters), and while it doesn't really have any bad songs, the rest is just good to me. Nothing too special.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #1883 on:** March 30, 2013, 01:01:21 PM »

1, I was listening to the album title and it made me want to listen to the entire album.

jammindude · « **Reply #1884 on:** March 30, 2013, 06:49:02 PM »

Just recently (and belatedly) picked up RS1 (Extended version) and I'm really enjoying it...though not quite as much as I do the classic material. Haven't heard RS2 yet. (I bought it from Amazon with the description that it *DID* have the bonus tracks...when it arrived, it didn't, so I have to send it back and get the one I wanted).

Of the ones I've heard...

Remedy Lane
The Perfect Element
Entropia
BE
Scarsick
Road Salt 1
One Hour by the Concrete Lake

It's a shame to put anything in last place...there's honestly NO album I don't love in it's own way. Although I'd have to say that the top 3 and the last 1 are pretty consistent. 4-6 are pretty much a dead heat, and can shuffle depending on mood.

Elite · « **Reply #1885 on:** March 30, 2013, 06:58:28 PM »

Quote from: Zantera on March 30, 2013, 12:43:38 PM

Part 1 or 2? I love part 2 and think it's one of their best albums (hence why I ranked it 4), the first one for me has two really sweet tracks (No Way and Sisters), and while it doesn't really have any bad songs, the rest is just good to me. Nothing too special.

Same. No Way and Sisters are great (though you gotta love Sleeping Under the Stars too

and She Likes to Hide is pretty sweet too. Oh, and Road Salt is fucking beautiful), but Road Salt Two had some absolute killer tracks in Softly She Cries, Healing Now, To The Shoreline, The Deeper Cut, Mortar Grind and The Physics of Gridlock. Those tracks make it stand out above RS1 and Scarsick, though it still doesn't touch the first 5 albums. Maybe it still has to grow.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #1886 on:** April 06, 2013, 11:42:41 AM »

Be live is way better than the studio version. The rawness and it being live make the earthiness of the concept pop. Certain songs benefit, Vocari Dei, hell all the songs benefit from it. I've tried many times to enjoy the studio, but I always go back to the live versions.

Vocari Dei
Deus Nova
Nihil Morari
Dea Pecuniae
Iter Impus
Lilium Cruentus
Pluvius Aestivus
Martius/Nauticus
Imago
Latericus valete
Omni
Diffidentia

Scorpion · « **Reply #1887 on:** April 06, 2013, 01:16:08 PM »

So I'm relistening BE with the lyrics and it's a whole different experience, and I'm liking it a fair bit more than my previous listens.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #1888 on:** April 06, 2013, 03:14:12 PM »

I love Road Salt One (the extended version makes it even better despite only adding maybe 4 minutes of music to the overall package). It's probably my third favorite album of theirs under The Perfect Element and Remedy Lane. I love the production, and there's not a weak moment on the entire disc. And yes, I know that belongs in the controversial opinions thread.

Still, I really wish POS would go back to writing progressive metal. Nobody else really did it quite like them.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #1889 on:** April 06, 2013, 03:28:13 PM »

I think Remedy Lane is my favourite now. I used to be the biggest BE fanboy and RL used to be my third favourite, but I like it a lot more now for some reason.

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Author Topic: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged) (Read 453359 times)