2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty

[Cool Chris]

The LA Rams are the best team in the NFC West right now. Said the guy in Seattle, not thinking he'd be saying that anytime soon.

[Dublagent66]

 , I goofed...sort of.

[RoeDent]

If the season carries on like this, it might be pretty tight in some of the divisions for who gets into the playoffs. 25% of the way through the season, do you have any clue as to who will take home the Lombardi in February? No team has been dominant, really. Even the usually-trustworthy Patriots have been hit-and-miss.

[KevShmev]

Tom Brady basically blamed yesterdays 's loss on the officials.

[King Postwhore]

Tom Brady basically blamed yesterdays 's loss on the officials.

While I did not like most of the calls yesterday, I'd like to blame the Defense.  I think you know Brady can't blame them even though they are the reason for the lost.

[KevShmev]

I guess now Tom Brady knows how Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers have felt for long stretches of their careers, not being able to win because your defense sucks ass.

[King Postwhore]

Easy fella.  He knows that all ready and so does this bitchy Pats fan as seen on the internet.

[KevShmev]

Oh, please. Let me know when a Patriots D is a bad over the course of the whole season as the 2011 Packers D was or some of the defenses in Indy Peyton's first 5-6 years.

[King Postwhore]

Or like the 2016 Denver offense?

[KevShmev]

Or like the 2016 Denver offense?

Hey now, Trevor did okay last year for a 7th rounder and a first year starter.

[KevShmev]

Good start for the Redskins tonight. This team looks for real.  Their only loss was to Philly (who looks like a great team), and they won at LA against the 3-1 Rams and then drilled the then-healthy Raiders.  Chiefs will have their hands full all night.

[King Postwhore]

Dont be all touchy now.

I think Belichick made a big mistake in setting up this defense this year.  We can only hope that they become an average, mid defense and with the offense the Pats have, still have a chance.

[KevShmev]

That's your hope, not mine.

[King Postwhore]

It certainly is.

[King Postwhore]

Kev, this should interest you.

"The Patriots have allowed 105 points in three home games this year, they allowed 124 points at Gillette all of last season."

[jingle.boy]

Or like the 2016 Denver offense?

I was expecting you to mention the 2015 offense.   

Kev, this should interest you.

"The Patriots have allowed 105 points in three home games this year, they allowed 124 points at Gillette all of last season."

 

Holy shit.

[King Postwhore]

It's very telling Chad.

[KevShmev]

Their defensive personnel isn't what it was before, which wasn't helped by trading away draft picks for a decoy WR.  It seems like they made a point to ignore the defense just so they could get Brady some new toys before he retired (Gillislee, Cooks, Burkhead, D Allen). 

[King Postwhore]

They also traded two guys coming up on contracts we're very good players. They going youth but it's growing pains big time.

[TAC]

As great as Belichick is, he does some really fucked up things. Like when is it ever a good idea to add Bills and Bengals players to your roster?

[jingle.boy]

As great as Belichick is, he does some really fucked up things. Like when is it ever a good idea to add Bills and Bengals players to your roster?

25 and 30 years ago.

[TAC]

Exactly.

[King Postwhore]

I'm not going to cry about the record live has Bill Belichick with Brady. sure what kind of cry about all these things but I'll wait till the end of the season before I actually say something. that's what we really are looking for right?
 Playoffs.

[PowerSlave]

25 years ago the Bengals were one of the worst teams in the league, and weren't sporting much talent. I don't understand the reference.

[jingle.boy]

25 years ago the Bengals were one of the worst teams in the league, and weren't sporting much talent. I don't understand the reference.

I meant it respectively - Bills 25 years ago; Bengals 30 years ago.  I seem to remember them both being Super Bowl teams at those times.   

[King Postwhore]

Chad's math is right.

[PowerSlave]

Yeah on the 30 for the Bengals. It didn't take long for them to implode, though. That's why the 25 baffled me. 

[KevShmev]

Suicide watch for bettors everywhere who had Wash +7. 

[El Barto]

Damn, you guys have convinced me. Belichick sucks. They should have fired him long ago. Bring on McDaniels!

[Dublagent66]

Suicide watch for bettors everywhere who had Wash +7. 

They must've wanted a reason to off themselves for thinking that, and at KC no less. 

Damn, you guys have convinced me. Belichick sucks. They should have fired him long ago. Bring on McDaniels!

They have a couple of bad games and all of a sudden BB sucks?    I don't buy it.  You NE fans are all spoiled rotten.      

[Samsara]

J E T S SUCK SUCK SU....uh...WUT?

How the hell are Gang Green 2-2? 

This can't last...

*spoken like a tried and true JETS fan*

[Destiny Of Chaos]

What if I told you in August that thru 4 weeks, the Pats and Jets would be sporting the same record?

I wouldn't believe it, much like I wouldn't believe that I'd give up on the Ravens, but life's crazy!

[TheCountOfNYC]

J E T S SUCK SUCK SU....uh...WUT?

How the hell are Gang Green 2-2? 

This can't last...

*spoken like a tried and true JETS fan*

Not only are they 2-2, they have the same record as the Patriots. Imagine after all this they make the playoffs and New England doesn't? (Not gonna happen, but what a world that would be.)

[KevShmev]

Post-Week 4 Power Rankings

Top 10
1. Kansas City -  last night was a game Chiefs teams of the past would have lost; they are the real deal
2. Philadelphia - not sure they will be the team to come out of the NFC, but so far they have been the most impressive
3. Washington - yeah, they are only 2-2, but they had narrow losses to the 1 and 2 teams, beat the 3-1 Rams in LA and kicked the crap out of a then-healthy Raiders team
4. LA Rams - seems crazy, but they, to me, have the best 4th most impressive team thus far, and the defense will get better as they get more used to the 3-4
5. Denver - run defense has been all-world so far, and the no-fly zone has mostly been in tact thus far
6. Detroit - 3-1, with their only loss being on that tough break to Atlanta; this team is good
7. Buffalo - I know this won't last, but gotta give them their due for now; that D is stellar
8. Pittsburgh - still not sold on them, as they have beaten two bad teams, one team without their QB, and lost to a bad Bears team
9. Carolina - wins against Buffalo and at NE look pretty impressive
10. Green Bay - Rodgers will continue to make them a lot better than they really are

Trending Up
Houston - looks like they might finally have their QB
NY Jets - many thought they'd be lucky to win 2 all year, much less 2 in a row!
Tampa Bay - can they take advantage of a bad NE defense?
New Orleans - is their D really improved or is it all a mirage?
Seattle - offense finally showed signs of life, albeit against a bad Colts team

Trending Down
New England - they won't trend down for long, but two home losses in a row is shocking
Dallas - that defense is not good
Miami - offense is pathetic
Minnesota - starting QB is out and now their stud rookie RB is done for the year
Oakland - two losses in a row and now they look their great young QB; ouch!

Bottom 5
28. Chicago - might as well start the rookie QB
29. NY Giants - offensive line stinks. and now the defense is leaky
30. Indianapolis - props for a good first half against Seattle, but then they fell apart
31. San Francisco - will be a rough year, but I think next year will be much better
32. Cleveland - both sadly and laughably bad

[CrimsonSunrise]

Like when is it ever a good idea to add Bills and Bengals players to your roster?

Well let's see here....

Rams 2017 Free agency and trade aquisitions....

Bengals - Andrew Whitworth LT- Guy has been an absolute stud for us so far.
Bills -      Sammy Watkins WR- has had some great plays and clutch catches.  Keeps Defenses honest. Only here since end of Aug.
Bills -      Robert Woods WR - Has been solid so far
Bills-       Nikell Robey-Coleman  CB- Our solid slot CB so far, but when filling in for injured Kavon Webster he looked pretty damn good.