Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread

[ariich]

Gee, whatever happened to potential spoilers being posted in tiny font?

I just post SPOILERS at the start of my potentially spoilery posts. Tiny text is pretty annoying, I find.

[hefdaddy42]

It's supposed to be annoying.

[Prog Snob]

[hefdaddy42]

Mission accomplished


lol

[Prog Snob]

Mission accomplished


lol

 

It's no more annoying than Joffrey's whining but much less gratifying than seeing that purple choking face of his gasping for its last breaths of air.

[cramx3]

Mission accomplished


lol

 

It's no more annoying than Joffrey's whining but much less gratifying than seeing that purple choking face of his gasping for its last breaths of air.

Joffrey was one of my favorite all time TV characters.  Of course I hated him, but I loved hating him.  I was actually upset when he died, the actor was perfect for that role.

[hefdaddy42]

That actor was certainly amazingly gifted at making people hate him.

[cramx3]

That actor was certainly amazingly gifted at making people hate him.

Everything about him, his small body frame, his squealing voice, the look of disgust, the bitchiness attitude.  Perfect.

[Prog Snob]

He supposedly isn't going to act anymore.

[matthewmatt]

Spoilers, I guess.

I think that any guess is as good as the other at this point. I mean, yes, allegedly the creators had iput from GRRM, to have some idea where the story goes... in broad strokes. The divergence of the series from the books has already gotten so high I don't think anyone's really able to make any educated guess as to what will come next based on the books themselves. For all the energy and time GRRM spent on the Meereenese knot (the importance of which still escapes me, BTW) the show doesn't really follow. When I remember the last two books, there are many scenes/storylines that just weren't in the series. The series also concentrate on different things/scenes.


I also think that GRRM might have underestimated his own tendency to spread - after 5 doorstoppers, not that much really happened, winter is still coming, the Others are nowhere to be seen etc. And his plan is to finish it in mere two books. 5 books of world- and ominous-dread-building is impossible to finish that shortly, unless you want to leave a lot of people disappointed. So my guess is, there will probably be more books. But maybe I'm wrong.

[Prog Snob]

Either there will be an eighth book, or the next two books are going to be extremely long.

[cramx3]

Spoilers, I guess.

I think that any guess is as good as the other at this point. I mean, yes, allegedly the creators had iput from GRRM, to have some idea where the story goes... in broad strokes. The divergence of the series from the books has already gotten so high I don't think anyone's really able to make any educated guess as to what will come next based on the books themselves. For all the energy and time GRRM spent on the Meereenese knot (the importance of which still escapes me, BTW) the show doesn't really follow. When I remember the last two books, there are many scenes/storylines that just weren't in the series. The series also concentrate on different things/scenes.


I also think that GRRM might have underestimated his own tendency to spread - after 5 doorstoppers, not that much really happened, winter is still coming, the Others are nowhere to be seen etc. And his plan is to finish it in mere two books. 5 books of world- and ominous-dread-building is impossible to finish that shortly, unless you want to leave a lot of people disappointed. So my guess is, there will probably be more books. But maybe I'm wrong.

It's hard to say without knowing where the story is going.  I'd imagine it could be done in two books if he starts writing in a direction towards the end and not creating more characters and more plots, but it will take a lot of story telling to get there so I agree with you on that part.

[Evermind]

I also think that GRRM might have underestimated his own tendency to spread - after 5 doorstoppers, not that much really happened, winter is still coming, the Others are nowhere to be seen etc. And his plan is to finish it in mere two books. 5 books of world- and ominous-dread-building is impossible to finish that shortly, unless you want to leave a lot of people disappointed. So my guess is, there will probably be more books. But maybe I'm wrong.

Not saying you're wrong, but at the end of book 5 winter has officially come, white raven and all.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

That actor was certainly amazingly gifted at making people hate him.

Everything about him, his small body frame, his squealing voice, the look of disgust, the bitchiness attitude.  Perfect.

That probably is causing him a lot of trouble in his life lol. People looking at him and going like "OMG that's Joffrey I HATE YOU"

[cramx3]

That actor was certainly amazingly gifted at making people hate him.

Everything about him, his small body frame, his squealing voice, the look of disgust, the bitchiness attitude.  Perfect.

That probably is causing him a lot of trouble in his life lol. People looking at him and going like "OMG that's Joffrey I HATE YOU"

lol I can imagine people immediately don't like him when they see him.

[MirrorMask]

And by all accounts he's a very nice bloke.

Think of it, he was so good at acting, that he made us all cheer to see a teenage boy die painfully in front of their parents 

[Prog Snob]

Seriously.     I loved watching interviews with him after he left the show though. He dealt with the questions about him being a prick in the show extremely professionally and humorously.

[cramx3]

https://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/26/game-of-thrones-pilot-jon-arryn

The article says there are spoilers, but unless you haven't watched the show, there are no spoilers.

Essentially the show actually filmed a scene for the pilot of Jon Arryn's death that never got used.

[Prog Snob]

I knew about that. Maybe it's something that will be seen eventually, like on a DVD/Blu-ray release.

[cramx3]

GoT quiz for fun https://www.zoo.com/quiz/the-ultimate-game-of-thrones-quiz?mkcpgn=i600001025&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=hswaccount&

I got 40/41, I think the one I got wrong was a trick question though, no spoilers and I think it's based solely off the show, but I'm not sure you'd easily know a couple of the answers without reading the books.

[matthewmatt]

GoT quiz for fun https://www.zoo.com/quiz/the-ultimate-game-of-thrones-quiz?mkcpgn=i600001025&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=hswaccount&

I got 40/41, I think the one I got wrong was a trick question though, no spoilers and I think it's based solely off the show, but I'm not sure you'd easily know a couple of the answers without reading the books.

I got 38/41, but I honestly think no. 14 is wrong.

[Prog Snob]

40/41

As far as 14, I know that Robert calling Cersei Lyanna really pissed her off. She said that in beginning she was in love with Robert, so I think it would have had to happen after the marriage, not before.

[matthewmatt]

40/41

As far as 14, I know that Robert calling Cersei Lyanna really pissed her off. She said that in beginning she was in love with Robert, so I think it would have had to happen after the marriage, not before.

Yeah, but I definitely remember something along the lines their relationship was stained from the very first moment, because Cersei was in love with RT and when Robert killed him and married her instead, she was already a bit sour about that. And calling her Lyanna just sealed the deal. Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

[Prog Snob]

I don't remember it perfectly either. Was she in love with RT, or was she just interested in power?

[matthewmatt]

All I can find right now is the following quote from AWOIAF:

"When Cersei was a girl, her father promised her that she would marry Prince Rhaegar Targaryen and would one day become queen. She was delighted by this news and became infatuated with Rhaegar upon their first meeting at the tourney for King Aerys II."

[Prog Snob]

I do remember that line. Hmm... Is that what did it for her though? Can you find her quote about the Lyanna reference?

[matthewmatt]

I'm at work now, but when I get home, after I listen to TA at least once (  ), I will do a more thorough research. So far it's neither here nor there.

EDIT: Oh, I think I found it:

https://books.google.cz/books?id=NuMx6tmf5iIC&pg=PA362&lpg=PA362&dq=never+forgive+Robert+for+killing+Rhaegar&source=bl&ots=EmyWvEYIZ0&sig=JoAlZZYJDR-Ea6kSoBStGU27wP4&hl=cs&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_5ffH8c7KAhWGaxQKHc4oCQoQ6AEIVDAG#v=onepage&q=never%20forgive%20Robert%20for%20killing%20Rhaegar&f=false

(hope the link works). Should be page 362. I think that's where I got the idea (and other people on the net, too). But maybe I'm reading too much into it.


Also, quoting another person from a different forum:

To my point- in Cersei's chapters, and more than once, we see her actually fawning over the memory of Rhaegar. She even thinks to herself that if he were alive today, her life would be much better, and the realm would probably be in a better place as well. She remembers how beautiful he was, his harp that made her weep, and even drawing she and him together on dragon back and hiding it from Jaime, whom she supposedly never hid anything from.

This is surprising for a person that tends to not think of almost ANYONE around here with much great extreme. She remembers her father fondly, yet she realizes that he had his faults. Whilst remembering Rhaegar though, she remembers a man beautiful, cunning and loved by all. Even a quote saying that at a tournament, people cheered for their father above all, but only half as loud as when they cheered for Rhaegar. I find it very interesting that a person like Cersei can speak of someone in this magnitude and still hold that much love for him even after his death. In a weird way this creates a very weird and twisted paradox of her marriage. Robert hated Rhaegar for "killing" his love Lyanna, in ways Cersei hated Robert for killing her love Rhaegar, yet in the end, Cersei and Robert entered into a grudging and loveless marriage. As she even states, "the wrong man came back from the Trident that day"....

The Lyanna reference I can't find right now.

[Prog Snob]

Maybe they took the questions from their knowledge of the show, because I know you hear that Lyanna reference mentioned there. However, I don't think she ever alludes to her love for Rhaegar. I know she asks the question in the flashback scene, but that's not really any profession of love.

[cramx3]

I'm pretty sure the quiz was based on the show, I don't recall them using the back reference of Cersei being interested in Rheagar in the show, but they certainly brought up the "Lyanna" during the bedding scene which is why i think that was the answer.

The "trick" question I was referring too and got wrong was "Who won the tourney of the hand?"

[Prog Snob]

Since I assumed the quiz was a show reference, Sandor  was the first that came to mind. Though in ASOIAF, there are many references to different Tourney's of the Hand.

[cramx3]

Since I assumed the quiz was a show reference, Sandor  was the first that came to mind. Though in ASOIAF, there are many references to different Tourney's of the Hand.

Yes, I only assumed it was the one we saw on the show and while Sandor was the answer, Loras was the actual winner, it's just that Loras gave the win to Sandor.  That's why I thought it was a trick question.

[Prog Snob]

Shit, that's right. Loras actually won that.

[Evermind]

I'm pretty sure the quiz was based on the show, I don't recall them using the back reference of Cersei being interested in Rheagar in the show, but they certainly brought up the "Lyanna" during the bedding scene which is why i think that was the answer.

The "trick" question I was referring too and got wrong was "Who won the tourney of the hand?"

I don't think quiz was based on the show. There was no Vargo Hoat on the show, and there's a question about him, for instance.

Oh, and I got 40/41 failing the question about Robert and Cersei too.

[Prog Snob]

Shit, I just realized that the Dream Theater show in NYC and the return of Game of Thrones are in the same weekend!  Best weekend in a long time!

[cramx3]

Shit, I just realized that the Dream Theater show in NYC and the return of Game of Thrones are in the same weekend!  Best weekend in a long time!

Wow, it sure will be! And the week before is Avantasia in NYC.  Going to be a lot of fun that week.