Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread

[gmillerdrake]

Holy shit I don't know how to feel

I'm actually a little bummed out. I liked Oberyn and the whole 'story' of why he was there. To go out like that was just a huge F-U. I guess that'll fire Oberyn's family up? anyway,  It's depressing that there can't be one little slither of 'justice' on the show. Martin must have some serious issues....

[Tom Bombadil]

But it'd be silly to me to kill off the single character that kind of holds the whole show together. He steals every scene he's in....anyway. I guess I could hope.

Yeah the more I think about the more I realize how much less interesting the show would be without Tyrion. I hope he somehow manages to live.

[TioJorge]

I'm on the opposite end, this is the first time that, as an avid reader of the books, I actually loved this episode. Don't get me wrong, the show is great at times, and it's had it's moments, but this is the first full episode where I was enthralled through and through. I don't expect to get into the series anymore than I am because of it, and I know it's probably a one-off for me, but the whole tone and feel of the episode was fantastic. I especially loved Arya and her 'becoming'; she is the embodiment of tenacity in the human species, I fuckin' love her character in the books and finally she's starting to get there in the show.

Wonderful episode; moved a lot of pieces towards forwarding the overarching plot.

[The King in Crimson]

Holy shit I don't know how to feel

I'm actually a little bummed out. I liked Oberyn and the whole 'story' of why he was there. To go out like that was just a huge F-U. I guess that'll fire Oberyn's family up? anyway,  It's depressing that there can't be one little slither of 'justice' on the show. Martin must have some serious issues....

Well, if you want justice, you've come to the wrong place.

I was really looking forward to this episode and they really delivered. Probably one of the stronger episodes this season with significant things happening in near every storyline and without it feeling too cramped. Although, during the neverending beetle conversation, I kept checking the time to see if they were in fact going to have 'that scene' in this episode.

[cramx3]

Really good episode. I liked the Bolton scene with Roose and Ramsay standing on the hill with the crazy wind (winds of winter?) Talking about how the north is theres. Those are some real bad guys that I hope they get thier justice one day. Oberyn was great while he was alive and died in a gruesome way. Very awesome. Arya laughing was great, I dont velieve that was in the books but I nice addition so it just continues with they things work out for her.

[masterthes]

And I guess the guards didn't know her sister was there

Man, what an episode! I still think season 1 is the best them, but this season is right after. And yeah, I don't think it makes a difference whether the Mountain dies or not, because Oberyon died first, but we'll have to wait and see. Oh, and it was nice seeing that girl's goodies. Too bad we couldn't see everything, but maybe that will come later

[hefdaddy42]

But it'd be silly to me to kill off the single character that kind of holds the whole show together. He steals every scene he's in....

Well, that's probably what a lot of people were thinking about Ned Stark in season 1.

[snapple]

I don't know. Maybe Jaime tries to bust Tyrion out? Or maybe our favorite midget is going to die 

[masterthes]

Shame we might have to wait two weeks. Looks like next week might be all about the battle on the Wall

[Dimitrius]

Anybody have any thoughts on this developing Missandei/Grey Worm thing?

I don't know what to think, the constant talk of his pre-cut days makes me think that maybe show Missandei and Grey Worm are related, while the "budding romance"  goes against everything we've learned about the Unsullied. The whole advantage of having them is that they fear nothing, feel nothing, would die on command and live to serve!

[BlackInk]

Holy shit. I'm expecting full on war with Dorne next season.

This episode was pretty fantastic all the way through. I was surprisingly excited about Sansa's initiation as a player in the game of thrones.

[Zydar]

I just watched it, and holy hell what an episode! Looks like Tyrion is done for, unless something very unexpected happens.

[gmillerdrake]

Holy shit. I'm expecting full on war with Dorne next season.

This episode was pretty fantastic all the way through. I was surprisingly excited about Sansa's initiation as a player in the game of thrones.

Yeah, it finally clicked with her. It was funny when Little Finger said "you don't know what I want" and she smirked. She knows full well he wants her and she's gonna use that to her advantage I suppose.

From what I've read Oberyn apparently has some daughters that are just as vicious as he was....so that'll be neat to see play out. Revenge all around!

I still don't think Tyrion will be put to death. Something will happen. He's to cunning. It may be something as simple as his nephew pardoning him.  They made a big deal out of how 'soft' he is. He may just spare his Uncle.

[abydos]

I was surprised by that too. This is also the first time I didn't want someone to jump out and stab Sansa in the neck. Her becoming a manipulative bitch kind of suits her.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Yea it's settled, this is the best show i've ever seen!

Oberyns victory:


and then


followed by


Pure emotions!!

I also loved the scene with Tyrion and Jaime in the cell. I love Peter Dinklage as Tyrion and I don't wanna see that character go but for the sake of keeping the tension of the show i'm willing to let him go. 

[cramx3]

Anybody have any thoughts on this developing Missandei/Grey Worm thing?

I don't know what to think, the constant talk of his pre-cut days makes me think that maybe show Missandei and Grey Worm are related, while the "budding romance"  goes against everything we've learned about the Unsullied. The whole advantage of having them is that they fear nothing, feel nothing, would die on command and live to serve!

Im not a fan of it.  I mean, Missandei looked fine and all, but I agree with you.  Its kind of taking away from what the Unsullied really are, plus its a storyline thats really just takes away from the other characters I care about.

[Evermind]

That Arya laugh totally made me 

 

[Accelerando]

The Mountain = Cousin Olsen. Oberyn = beetle.

[gmillerdrake]

The Mountain = Cousin Olsen. Oberyn = beetle.

Nah......

  Tywin = Cousin Olsen            Everyone Else = Beetles

The answer....because He can

[Dimitrius]

kung kung kung

[cramx3]

The Mountain = Cousin Olsen. Oberyn = beetle.

Nah......

  Tywin = Cousin Olsen            Everyone Else = Beetles

The answer....because He can

Or

Mad King = Cousin Olsen            Everyone Else = Beetles

[Heretic]

No guys, it's obvious. George R. R. Martin is Cousin Olsen. Everyone in the books are his beetles.

[ariich]

No guys, it's obvious. George R. R. Martin is Cousin Olsen. Everyone are his beetles.

Fixed.

[soundgarden]

(double)

[soundgarden]

Holy shit. I'm expecting full on war with Dorne next season.

This episode was pretty fantastic all the way through. I was surprisingly excited about Sansa's initiation as a player in the game of thrones.

From what I've read Oberyn apparently has some daughters that are just as vicious as he was....so that'll be neat to see play out. Revenge all around!

Not a big spoiler, but yes.  Oberyn's death was important for the various people in Dorne, including his awesome daughters.  Its more complicated than simple revenge though; as you will see.  I suppose GRRM wanted to introduce the Martells with a bang (or crunch rather). Don't read on too much; didnt you spoil yourself with this fight already? lol

EDIT...Folks there is one more BIG thing that happens this season; careful what you read and where you go; I personally think its bigger than Oberyn/Mountain fight. 

[gmillerdrake]

Holy shit. I'm expecting full on war with Dorne next season.

This episode was pretty fantastic all the way through. I was surprisingly excited about Sansa's initiation as a player in the game of thrones.

From what I've read Oberyn apparently has some daughters that are just as vicious as he was....so that'll be neat to see play out. Revenge all around!

Not a big spoiler, but yes.  Oberyn's death was important for the various people in Dorne, including his awesome daughters.  Its more complicated than simple revenge though; as you will see.  I suppose GRRM wanted to introduce the Martells with a bang (or crunch rather). Don't read on too much; didnt you spoil yourself with this fight already? lol

EDIT...Folks there is one more BIG thing that happens this season; careful what you read and where you go; I personally think its bigger than Oberyn/Mountain fight.

Yeah I'm done reading stuff. I read about the daughters in the same article that really only said Oberyn was a cool character and it was too bad he isn't "long for this world". I had hoped that perhaps he defeated the mountain and got his revenge and then Tywin just had him shit dead by archers or something.

Anyway, at least it's good to know that there is a whole new bad a$$ family out there waiting to be introduced.

[ariich]

Dunno if I'm the only one, but I thought he episode was a bit of a let down after all the hype. I mean, yes it was very shocking, so fun event televsion for sure. But the level of gruesomeness was just so over the top as to be quite silly, which I thought was pretty out of character for the show. I also found the events pretty meh from a story perspective, and am getting a bit bored of all the good characters getting killed off.

[gmillerdrake]

Dunno if I'm the only one, but I thought he episode was a bit of a let down after all the hype. I mean, yes it was very shocking, so fun event televsion for sure. But the level of gruesomeness was just so over the top as to be quite silly, which I thought was pretty out of character for the show. I also found the events pretty meh from a story perspective, and am getting a bit bored of all the good characters getting killed off.

The head popping was gruesome. I had an issue falling asleep. Just flat out brutal.

Although the happenings of the episode were tame, they were significant I thought. Sansa is now entering the Frey as a person to be reckoned with...(I forgot his name) but the dude Daenaryus kicked out, to me that seemed kind of fishy and I almost believe it was a set up so that he could go spy for her.

I might be the only one who finds the entire 'Wall' arc of the show completely boring. Don't care about wildlings or white walkers or whatever. I like John Snows character and it seems like he's being wasted up there with that.

[The King in Crimson]

Dunno if I'm the only one, but I thought he episode was a bit of a let down after all the hype. I mean, yes it was very shocking, so fun event televsion for sure. But the level of gruesomeness was just so over the top as to be quite silly, which I thought was pretty out of character for the show. I also found the events pretty meh from a story perspective, and am getting a bit bored of all the good characters getting killed off.

Game of Thrones had always been ridiculously over the top and gratuitous when it comes to violence, gore, and boobies. While Oberyn's death was on the higher level of gore I think it was less over the top than that soldier getting the top of his head cut off in Blackwater. At least Oberyn's death served a story purpose.

[cramx3]

Oberyns death was also very spot on from the how it happened in the books so the show was really just following the book which isnt always the case.

EDIT...Folks there is one more BIG thing that happens this season; careful what you read and where you go; I personally think its bigger than Oberyn/Mountain fight. 

I believe there are a few more big events that are to happen.  This season has been full of big events and the last two episodes will continue that pattern.

I might be the only one who finds the entire 'Wall' arc of the show completely boring. Don't care about wildlings or white walkers or whatever. I like John Snows character and it seems like he's being wasted up there with that.

Hopefully after this week and then on forward you have more interest in the Wall. 

[senecadawg2]

I didn't enjoy this episode, and I might even need to take a break from GoT for a while. It's just a never ending carousel of awesome characters who make an appearance, win over fans, and then die in some brutal way. Oberyn may have been minor (although I'm sure there will be larger repercussions once Dorne hears what happened), but it was still a major disappointment for me to see him go like that. It's sadistic the way they're playing with my emotions like this, and it's pushing me into a state of noncompliance.

With all that being said, I do not believe Tyrion is going to die. No way no how. The same way I don't believe John Snow, Arya, Danaerys, or Bran will die. Those are, in my opinion, the 5 most indispensable characters in the show, for a number of reasons, and I would be absolutely shocked if any of them die (maybe in the very, very end, but not this early in the story). There are still unanswered questions for John. Arya and Bran are still early in their arcs. Danaerys has dragons and she's going to be around when they come into play. and Tyrion is Tyrion. I'm convinced that he's going to outlive all of the major Lannister characters. It's his destiny.

Dunno if I'm the only one, but I thought he episode was a bit of a let down after all the hype. I mean, yes it was very shocking, so fun event televsion for sure. But the level of gruesomeness was just so over the top as to be quite silly, which I thought was pretty out of character for the show. I also found the events pretty meh from a story perspective, and am getting a bit bored of all the good characters getting killed off.

The head popping was gruesome. I had an issue falling asleep. Just flat out brutal.

Although the happenings of the episode were tame, they were significant I thought. Sansa is now entering the Frey as a person to be reckoned with...(I forgot his name) but the dude Daenaryus kicked out, to me that seemed kind of fishy and I almost believe it was a set up so that he could go spy for her.

I might be the only one who finds the entire 'Wall' arc of the show completely boring. Don't care about wildlings or white walkers or whatever. I like John Snows character and it seems like he's being wasted up there with that.

I get what you're saying, and I too find the wall scenes a little boring at times, but it's a necessary reminder of the ultimate conflict that all of this is building up towards and so I'm okay with it.

[ariich]

I didn't enjoy this episode, and I might even need to take a break from GoT for a while. It's just a never ending carousel of awesome characters who make an appearance, win over fans, and then die in some brutal way. Oberyn may have been minor (although I'm sure there will be larger repercussions once Dorne hears what happened), but it was still a major disappointment for me to see him go like that. It's sadistic the way they're playing with my emotions like this, and it's pushing me into a state of noncompliance.

I reached this point in season 3. I know GRRM does all this because he wants to make us think that nobody is safe and always fear for our favourite characters etc., but all it's done to me is mean that I don't really care about any of the characters, because they're only going to die soon anyway so why bother. So it's not particularly that I thought Oberyn was worthy and wanted him to get his revenge or anything, I just liked watching him because he was witty and entertaining, and now won't be in the show anymore.

I was getting back into it in season 4 because there was some really good tension building, but this week's episode reminded me of the thing that annoys me about it. Still, there was SOME good stuff - the Hound and Arya were still awesome, and Sansa has suddenly become quite badass.

[senecadawg2]

True- Arya is always a highlight for me. I worry about Sansa though… While they seem to be setting her up as a potential power, I'm not sure she's intelligent enough to avoid being used for Little Finger's schemes. And if she is, she hasn't really proved it to me thus far. It would be cool though, if she could eventually foil him and win the freedom that has been eluding her for so long.

[Super Dude]

What they seem to be setting her up towards is learning to be cunning and manipulative like Littlefinger. Much as he is a bastard, that's just the sort of mentoring she needs. She doesn't need freedom to be given to her so much as earned.

[gmillerdrake]

What they seem to be setting her up towards is learning to be cunning and manipulative like Littlefinger. Much as he is a bastard, that's just the sort of mentoring she needs. She doesn't need freedom to be given to her so much as earned.

Exactly. It may develop into a Master/Apprentice type situation, perhaps ultimately ending with Sansa becoming more cunning and deceiving than Little Finger is?