Things that piss me off

[TioJorge]

XD

[Nothingface]

Nothingface, you'll have a stroke if those really piss you off.  Wait until real things that happen in life and what they will do to you.

There's no need making multiple threads on the varying degrees of annoyance, so this one will serve as my pet peeve soapbox.

[Lucien]

People who suck at genre classification.

genres shouldn't matter

it's all just music

[Nothingface]

it's all just music

Obviously, but I'm not obligated to like all of it, therefore it helps to have terms to discern different styles from the other; especially when I'm trying to discover new bands similar to my favorites.

I'm not sure why the prospect of labels intimidates the hell out of people. Not everyone has to be a music theorist, but telling a person so matter-of-factly that Dream Theater (for example) is a thrash metal band is fucking stupid.

It's not a "my wife fucked the mailman" kind of thing, but it still irks me.

[Lucien]

it's all just music

Obviously, but I'm not obligated to like all of it, therefore it helps to have terms to discern different styles from the other; especially when I'm trying to discover new bands similar to my favorites.

I'm not sure why the prospect of labels intimidates the hell out of people. Not everyone has to be a music theorist, but telling a person so matter-of-factly that Dream Theater (for example) is a thrash metal band is fucking stupid.

boxing styles into labels closes the mind

music theory has nothing to do with genres, and I personally think basic music theory should be required for everyone at some time during K-12

[Nothingface]

boxing styles into labels closes the mind

I'm pretty sure that the majority of us can handle Traditional, Thrash, Power, Progressive, Death, and Black - it's not that hard to wrap your head around; and the fact that the styles have names isn't going to confine someone to listen to just one (unless you're some sort of OCD/fetishist).

[Lucien]

boxing styles into labels closes the mind

I'm pretty sure that the majority of us can handle Traditional, Thrash, Power, Progressive, Death, and Black - it's not that hard to wrap your head around; and the fact that the styles have names isn't going to confine someone to listen to just one (unless you're some sort of OCD/fetishist).

not exactly what I meant

listening to a couple of songs in a style that may not be very representative of said style, that a person didn't like, might turn said person off to the entire label of whatever, be it black metal or power metal or country or rap or classical music. take away the labels and suddenly that becomes much less of a problem

so it's less that a person would be confined to listening to just one, it's that a person might refuse to listen to an entire style, closing the mind off to a lot of great music

[Dark Castle]

At least 70% of the temps that my workplace gets for big events, will go into more detail later gators

[Stadler]

The media shoving homosexuality down our throats...

Okay, I would have phrased it (rather) differently, because I don't think it is "homosexuality" that is being shoved down our throats, but this is a thing.

I'm watching "How To Get Away With Murder".   And there are eight main characters.   A teacher, two lawyers, and five students.   Now, 4% (roughly) of the population is gay, so at most, one of the main characters is gay.  And he is. BUT... then the other characters' fiancé comes to town, and lo and behold, the gay character happened to have a "one night thing" with the fiancé back in boarding school.   Implausible, but let's let it go.   I know for me, there was never any "indecision" or "one night in the boat house" sword-fight kind of thing, but I guess I'm lucky that way.  Turns out that character is something of a man whore, so no less than four cases in the first 10 episodes are solved by him having gay sex with someone close to the case that can feed him information that breaks it wide open.  My daughter and I were actually counting how many gay sex scenes there would be before the first hetero sex scene, and it turns out the number was FIVE (some were not associated with the cases).   So, let's put that in perspective:  96% of the population is heterosexual, but on this show, almost 85% of the sex scenes are homosexual.   

So then, one of the lawyers, a guy, starts making googly eyes at one of the female students.    So he's talking to the other lawyer, also female, and there are intimations that the female has eyes for her too.   Turns out she ends up sleeping with one of the other, male, students, but the implication is clear.  THEN, said female lawyer is talking with the District Attorney, and as SHE is walking away, she makes a comment about "checking out my ass".    So we're now at basically 50% of the cast making some explicit, in public homosexual overture, IN THE WORKPLACE no less, as if it is just as easy and free as grabbing one of those mints at the maître-d stand at a restaurant.

Only this show?  Nope...

Blindspot, on NBC.  Premise is this girl with no memory is found in a bag (yes, alive) with her entire body tattooed, including with the name of an FBI agent on the middle of her back.   So there are six main characters.  Using rounding, it is not discriminatory to have NO gay characters, but it's 2015 (sorry nothingface) and so one has to be.  The Deputy Director of the FBI turns out to be a lesbian.  Not a problem.  Except, the rest of the girls (there are three) go out for a drink after a tough case, and as they're getting into the cab, the girl with the tattoos says to the other (Latino) girl, "thanks for giving me this time to relax".  "Anytime".  And they gaze, deeply, into each others eyes, until rudely interrupted by the cab horn, and the moment is lost.  You then see the Latino girl strolling home deep in the thought of what could have been.   Again, we're at 50% of the cast being at least bisexual, if not more.

Look, I have no issue with "what's normal" being an individually decided thing.  And I really don't care who is or who isn't at this point.   But to take it to the next level, and imply that everyone "would be" if they just let their inhibitions go is just absurd.   To imply that the new normal is for everyone to be ready and willing to partake in every aspect of the sexual continuum is not accurate.   It's starting to be distracting and is taking away from what is otherwise credible and thought-provoking writing. 

[Chino]

Too many shows focus on having a diverse cast rather than a cast that works. Not for nothing though, people must want to see it. If viewers truly hated this amount of homosexuality in a show, they'd stop watching.

I was going to make a thread for this but instead I'll just post it here. I went to a hibachi restaurant with a group that wasn't my usual band of bros over the weekend (birthday for one of my girlfriend's friends). One of the guys was a super flamboyant gay that had to make it known within a second of meeting him that he was as such. This typically does not bother me except he went in for a huge hug and a "it's so nice to meet you" as soon as I said "Hey, how's it going? I'm Brian". I was really put off by it, and just to be clear, I hate having to hug new females equally as much. It's super awkward and I don't get why a handshake doesn't suffice.

Anyway, once we were seated, it took no time at all for the discussion to turn into a talk about Trump, which in turn became a discussion about politics, which quickly became a chat about putting dicks in butts, obviously. I was blown away by the fact that this was even considered appropriate at a place like a hibachi where there are others all around you in a big open area, but whatever. Eventually, the gay guy ended up going into a rant about how he's judged by straight people who shouldn't even be declaring themselves as straight. Because I've never actually given a blowjob, taken a cock in or put my penis in another male's ass, I can't say with certainty that I'm not gay. The fact that in 15 years I've never once queried gay porn online isn't indicative of anything apparently. Until I actually try gay sex, I'm lying to the world when I say "I'm straight" and I'm celebrating my ignorance.

I wanted to get up and leave so badly. 

[Stadler]

Too many shows focus on having a diverse cast rather than a cast that works. Not for nothing though, people must want to see it. If viewers truly hated this amount of homosexuality in a show, they'd stop watching.

I was going to make a thread for this but instead I'll just post it here. I went to a hibachi restaurant with a group that wasn't my usual band of bros over the weekend (birthday for one of my girlfriend's friends). One of the guys was a super flamboyant gay that had to make it known within a second of meeting him that he was as such. This typically does not bother me except he went in for a huge hug and a "it's so nice to meet you" as soon as I said "Hey, how's it going? I'm Brian". I was really put off by it, and just to be clear, I hate having to hug new females equally as much. It's super awkward and I don't get why a handshake doesn't suffice.

Anyway, once we were seated, it took no time at all for the discussion to turn into a talk about Trump, which in turn became a discussion about politics, which quickly became a chat about putting dicks in butts, obviously. I was blown away by the fact that this was even considered appropriate at a place like a hibachi where there are others all around you in a big open area, but whatever. Eventually, the gay guy ended up going into a rant about how he's judged by straight people who shouldn't even be declaring themselves as straight. Because I've never actually given a blowjob, taken a cock in or put my penis in another male's ass, I can't say with certainty that I'm not gay. The fact that in 15 years I've never once queried gay porn online isn't indicative of anything apparently. Until I actually try gay sex, I'm lying to the world when I say "I'm straight" and I'm celebrating my ignorance.

I wanted to get up and leave so badly.

I think the thing that strikes me about that is the fact that it really does serve as evidence that prejudice and bias know no boundaries.  We'd be pretty quick - and I would probably be in that group, too - to condemn someone that said "These gays!  If they only tried p****, they'd know what they're missing and all would be well, and they'd be better off!".   I find it fascinating that the people that would profit most - metaphorically - from the idea that "we are who we are, and we like what we like, without much deep contemplation" are just as susceptible to not applying it to others.  I have almost no homophobia whatsoever (my roommate in college - by choice - was a gay man) but I can honestly say that I am in the same boat as Chino:  in thirty years I have had absolutely zero inclination to have any sexual relations with another man.  None.  It's not a matter of "ignorance" or "narrow-mindedness".  It's a function of what makes my p**** move.   I don't begrudge him what turns him on, he shouldn't begrudge me the same.

I would, though, say, that any discussion of that kind of topic - be it "I love a huge c*** in my a**" or "look at the cans on that broad!" are equally crass.  There is no "hipster exception" to the standard of crass.   

[cramx3]

I don't mind gay people or have any problems with them, but I get what you are saying.  There are some that are "Im gay and you NEED to know about it" and are all up in your face about it.  That is kind of annoying.  I don't do that about my heterosexuality.  I do have one coworker who is like this, but takes it to another level and constantly cracks gay jokes about himself.  Its actually hilarious although fairly uncomfortable because you don't know whether or not to laugh, and I really want to because he is really funny, not because Im homophobic, but his jokes on being gay are just great.

[Implode]

which quickly became a chat about putting dicks in butts, obviously.

I love having that discussion as much as the next guy, but obviously there's a time and a place.

Eventually, the gay guy ended up going into a rant about how he's judged by straight people who shouldn't even be declaring themselves as straight. Because I've never actually given a blowjob, taken a cock in or put my penis in another male's ass, I can't say with certainty that I'm not gay. The fact that in 15 years I've never once queried gay porn online isn't indicative of anything apparently. Until I actually try gay sex, I'm lying to the world when I say "I'm straight" and I'm celebrating my ignorance.

This is so bad. I've seen it happening from all of the possible angles too. Young people who are pansexual and act as if they are enlightened beyond the knowledge of mortal man in terms of sexuality just peeve me. They'll berate gay and straight people alike for simply being too close-minded to consider getting with people of different genders. Like...we finally just got around to moving the paradigm to accepting that peoples' sexualities are preprogrammed and not a choice...and you want to go back on that now? 

[Harmony]

I can say the same thing about vegans and people with gluten sensitivity.  Some people are just assholes and want everyone to know about it in 20 seconds.  Hey - at least you know immediately.   

[Kotowboy]

Imagine a Vegan conference.

Everyone there is a Vegan.

The horror ! All those people and nobody to tell you're a Vegan !

[Stadler]

This is so bad. I've seen it happening from all of the possible angles too. Young people who are pansexual and act as if they are enlightened beyond the knowledge of mortal man in terms of sexuality just peeve me. They'll berate gay and straight people alike for simply being too close-minded to consider getting with people of different genders. Like...we finally just got around to moving the paradigm to accepting that peoples' sexualities are preprogrammed and not a choice...and you want to go back on that now? 

But that's just it; I don't mind talking about it - at the end of the day, it's like anything else (and of course, the argument is, we DO confirm we're hetero every minute, in the language we use and the institutional things we talk about, which I think is contrived, but still).  I love a beautiful smile, and a nice curvaceous ass, so when guys talk about huge knockers it's the same (in a sense) as talking about penises; I just sort of substitute what I like and I can be sympathetic.   And as long as you're not crass, the conversation can be what it is.   I can recall talking to my friend Kurt about his husband, and my marriage was on the rocks and I remember thinking "Dammit, I wish I felt about my wife the way you feel about him, without it being a him!", so the conversations can be enlightening.   Love and sex are, at the end of the day, love and sex.   The bothersome thing is the hypocritical way in which judgment has seemed to be flipped around.   Don't pull the same shit on me that you've been complaining about for however long you've been aware of who you are.  I'm not "less evolved" simply because my DNA is attracted to the same things as 96% of the population has been attracted to since the dawning of the age of Man.   

[Kotowboy]

The media shoving homosexuality down our throats...

Okay, I would have phrased it (rather) differently, because I don't think it is "homosexuality" that is being shoved down our throats, but this is a thing.

I'm watching "How To Get Away With Murder".   And there are eight main characters.   A teacher, two lawyers, and five students.   Now, 4% (roughly) of the population is gay, so at most, one of the main characters is gay.  And he is. BUT... then the other characters' fiancé comes to town, and lo and behold, the gay character happened to have a "one night thing" with the fiancé back in boarding school.   Implausible, but let's let it go.   I know for me, there was never any "indecision" or "one night in the boat house" sword-fight kind of thing, but I guess I'm lucky that way.  Turns out that character is something of a man whore, so no less than four cases in the first 10 episodes are solved by him having gay sex with someone close to the case that can feed him information that breaks it wide open.  My daughter and I were actually counting how many gay sex scenes there would be before the first hetero sex scene, and it turns out the number was FIVE (some were not associated with the cases).   So, let's put that in perspective:  96% of the population is heterosexual, but on this show, almost 85% of the sex scenes are homosexual.   

So then, one of the lawyers, a guy, starts making googly eyes at one of the female students.    So he's talking to the other lawyer, also female, and there are intimations that the female has eyes for her too.   Turns out she ends up sleeping with one of the other, male, students, but the implication is clear.  THEN, said female lawyer is talking with the District Attorney, and as SHE is walking away, she makes a comment about "checking out my ass".    So we're now at basically 50% of the cast making some explicit, in public homosexual overture, IN THE WORKPLACE no less, as if it is just as easy and free as grabbing one of those mints at the maître-d stand at a restaurant.

Only this show?  Nope...

Blindspot, on NBC.  Premise is this girl with no memory is found in a bag (yes, alive) with her entire body tattooed, including with the name of an FBI agent on the middle of her back.   So there are six main characters.  Using rounding, it is not discriminatory to have NO gay characters, but it's 2015 (sorry nothingface) and so one has to be.  The Deputy Director of the FBI turns out to be a lesbian.  Not a problem.  Except, the rest of the girls (there are three) go out for a drink after a tough case, and as they're getting into the cab, the girl with the tattoos says to the other (Latino) girl, "thanks for giving me this time to relax".  "Anytime".  And they gaze, deeply, into each others eyes, until rudely interrupted by the cab horn, and the moment is lost.  You then see the Latino girl strolling home deep in the thought of what could have been.   Again, we're at 50% of the cast being at least bisexual, if not more.

Look, I have no issue with "what's normal" being an individually decided thing.  And I really don't care who is or who isn't at this point.   But to take it to the next level, and imply that everyone "would be" if they just let their inhibitions go is just absurd.   To imply that the new normal is for everyone to be ready and willing to partake in every aspect of the sexual continuum is not accurate.   It's starting to be distracting and is taking away from what is otherwise credible and thought-provoking writing.

Of course - if you only have gay and straight characters on your show - trans people will get OFFENDED.

Soon you will only have TV shows or movies where every single fucking minority is represented or someone will get OFFENDED and COMPLAIN.

" I was watching your show last night and there was no Transgendered Half Mexican - Half Irish Man identifying as a woman who was born in Boston but grew up in Sheffield UK . Fuck You . "

[vtgrad]

I can say the same thing about vegans and people with gluten sensitivity.  Some people are just assholes and want everyone to know about it in 20 seconds.  Hey - at least you know immediately.   

   Beat me to it (no pun intended). 

[Stadler]

Soon you will only have TV shows or movies where every single fucking minority is represented or someone will get OFFENDED and COMPLAIN.

That's already happening.  There's a group that "monitors" prime time television and issues report cards on the level of diversity of shows.   The problem is, of course, that they view everything as a game of "equality".  There has to be one African American for every Caucasian.  One homosexual for every heterosexual, etc.   They don't actually compare to the percentages that actually happen in real life (because that doesn't fit the "agenda"). 

[Chino]

I don't watch Modern Family because there isn't a black cast member.

[Kotowboy]

Soon you will only have TV shows or movies where every single fucking minority is represented or someone will get OFFENDED and COMPLAIN.

That's already happening.  There's a group that "monitors" prime time television and issues report cards on the level of diversity of shows.   The problem is, of course, that they view everything as a game of "equality".  There has to be one African American for every Caucasian.  One homosexual for every heterosexual, etc.   They don't actually compare to the percentages that actually happen in real life (because that doesn't fit the "agenda").

So fucking stupid.

When that new Star Trek TV show launches - 100% guarantee there will be a gay bridge crewman and probably a trans one too.

I know that's what Star Trek was about - but nowadays it's not about celebrating diversity - it's about NOT pissing anyone off.

[Prog Snob]

Soon you will only have TV shows or movies where every single fucking minority is represented or someone will get OFFENDED and COMPLAIN.

That's already happening.  There's a group that "monitors" prime time television and issues report cards on the level of diversity of shows.   The problem is, of course, that they view everything as a game of "equality".  There has to be one African American for every Caucasian.  One homosexual for every heterosexual, etc.   They don't actually compare to the percentages that actually happen in real life (because that doesn't fit the "agenda").

That's fucking ludicrous. If I was African-American or gay or a woman, I'd be just as pissed with forced diversity in the entertainment industry as opposed to being included because someone WANTS me there.

[kaos2900]

Kind of related to the current discussion, but Serena Williams was awarded SI Sportsperson of the Year not only becasue of her athletic accomplishments but also because she is a black woman. To me gender or race should have NO bearing on an award (ala Jenner winning the ESPY award). I also don't like that they dolled her up to look a whore for the cover. Great role model  portrayal SI. The award should have went to Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors.

[Chino]

Kind of related to the current discussion, but Serena Williams was awarded SI Sportsperson of the Year not only becasue of her athletic accomplishments but also because she is a black woman. To me gender or race should have NO bearing on an award (ala Jenner winning the ESPY award). I also don't like that they dolled her up to look a whore for the cover. Great role model  portrayal SI. The award should have went to Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors.

Is that an assumption or do you have a source?

[Prog Snob]

Kind of related to the current discussion, but Serena Williams was awarded SI Sportsperson of the Year not only becasue of her athletic accomplishments but also because she is a black woman. To me gender or race should have NO bearing on an award (ala Jenner winning the ESPY award). I also don't like that they dolled her up to look a whore for the cover. Great role model  portrayal SI. The award should have went to Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors.

Is that an assumption or do you have a source?

You're right. We should definitely have a source for his information but it wouldn't surprise me to find out it's true.

[Chino]

Kind of related to the current discussion, but Serena Williams was awarded SI Sportsperson of the Year not only becasue of her athletic accomplishments but also because she is a black woman. To me gender or race should have NO bearing on an award (ala Jenner winning the ESPY award). I also don't like that they dolled her up to look a whore for the cover. Great role model  portrayal SI. The award should have went to Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors.

Is that an assumption or do you have a source?

You're right. We should definitely have a source for his information but it wouldn't surprise me to find out it's true.

I'm not trying to set anyone up. I'm curious if she made reference to it in an interview or something. I follow literally nothing about sports and had to look up the cover in question.

[Prog Snob]

Kind of related to the current discussion, but Serena Williams was awarded SI Sportsperson of the Year not only becasue of her athletic accomplishments but also because she is a black woman. To me gender or race should have NO bearing on an award (ala Jenner winning the ESPY award). I also don't like that they dolled her up to look a whore for the cover. Great role model  portrayal SI. The award should have went to Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors.

Is that an assumption or do you have a source?

You're right. We should definitely have a source for his information but it wouldn't surprise me to find out it's true.

I'm not trying to set anyone up. I'm curious if she made reference to it in an interview or something. I follow literally nothing about sports and had to look up the cover in question.

I know you're not.   You asked a valid question. I was unfamiliar with the cover as well. If it isn't baseball, I don't know much about it.

[Chino]

I'd think sports stories and media would be the very last type of entertainment (today) that'd have to go out of their way to put a person of color forward just to show diversity. Blacks dominate most sports. I don't think color would have anything to do with someone getting on a sports cover. Are there not many black tennis players or something?

[kaos2900]

https://www.si.com/sportsperson/2015/12/14/why-serena-williams-is-sportsperson-of-theyear

Towards the bottom of the article:

"But we are honoring Serena Williams too for reasons that hang in the grayer, less comfortable ether, where issues such as race and femininity collide with the games. Race was used as a cudgel against Williams at Indian Wells in 2001, and she returned the blow with a 14-year self-exile from the tournament. She returned to Indian Wells in ’15, a conciliator seeking to raise the level of discourse about hard questions, the hardest ones, really. Williams, S.L. Price writes in his cover story in the Dec. 21 issue, “proffered an open hand. Far past the time that anyone expected it, she demonstrated a capacity for change—innovation if you will. She’s groping for answers and realizing she has much to learn."

[Stadler]

Soon you will only have TV shows or movies where every single fucking minority is represented or someone will get OFFENDED and COMPLAIN.

That's already happening.  There's a group that "monitors" prime time television and issues report cards on the level of diversity of shows.   The problem is, of course, that they view everything as a game of "equality".  There has to be one African American for every Caucasian.  One homosexual for every heterosexual, etc.   They don't actually compare to the percentages that actually happen in real life (because that doesn't fit the "agenda").

That's fucking ludicrous. If I was African-American or gay or a woman, I'd be just as pissed with forced diversity in the entertainment industry as opposed to being included because someone WANTS me there.

But sadly, they're not.  That is the LAST reaction you get, unfortunately.  I'm the same way; I don't want handouts or favors (beyond those I've earned).  But God forbid you criticize affirmative action (I'm talking about you, Justice Scalia) and you get the hellfire from the heavens reigning down on you. 

[King Postwhore]

She is beyond deserving.  She is dominating at an age old in tennis that is just amazing.  I love watching her play.

[Prog Snob]

Soon you will only have TV shows or movies where every single fucking minority is represented or someone will get OFFENDED and COMPLAIN.

That's already happening.  There's a group that "monitors" prime time television and issues report cards on the level of diversity of shows.   The problem is, of course, that they view everything as a game of "equality".  There has to be one African American for every Caucasian.  One homosexual for every heterosexual, etc.   They don't actually compare to the percentages that actually happen in real life (because that doesn't fit the "agenda").

That's fucking ludicrous. If I was African-American or gay or a woman, I'd be just as pissed with forced diversity in the entertainment industry as opposed to being included because someone WANTS me there.

But sadly, they're not.  That is the LAST reaction you get, unfortunately.  I'm the same way; I don't want handouts or favors (beyond those I've earned).  But God forbid you criticize affirmative action (I'm talking about you, Justice Scalia) and you get the hellfire from the heavens reigning down on you.

Unfortunately people don't understand the negative effects creations like affirmative action and the ACLU have psychologically.

[hefdaddy42]

https://www.si.com/sportsperson/2015/12/14/why-serena-williams-is-sportsperson-of-theyear

Towards the bottom of the article:

"But we are honoring Serena Williams too for reasons that hang in the grayer, less comfortable ether, where issues such as race and femininity collide with the games. Race was used as a cudgel against Williams at Indian Wells in 2001, and she returned the blow with a 14-year self-exile from the tournament. She returned to Indian Wells in ’15, a conciliator seeking to raise the level of discourse about hard questions, the hardest ones, really. Williams, S.L. Price writes in his cover story in the Dec. 21 issue, “proffered an open hand. Far past the time that anyone expected it, she demonstrated a capacity for change—innovation if you will. She’s groping for answers and realizing she has much to learn."

That doesn't mean that they gave it to her because she is a black woman.  It's talking about her growth and maturity as an athlete and a person.

She is definitely deserving of the award.  Give me a break.

[Nothingface]

I don't know about affirmative action or not, but it was fucking thievery not giving sportsperson of the year to Holly Holm.

[King Postwhore]

Buster Douglas was robbed as well.