Official Queensryche thread: Kickstart the next album

[EPIC Outro]

I know nothing at all about Steel Panther, but a buddy of mine tagged along with a coworker to a recent Steel Panther concert... I don't know what happened there, but he came back angry and uncomfortable and has no desire to ever see them again.

[jammindude]

I know nothing at all about Steel Panther, but a buddy of mine tagged along with a coworker to a recent Steel Panther concert... I don't know what happened there, but he came back angry and uncomfortable and has no desire to ever see them again.

Basically, they take all the "naughty/bad boy" schtick that every glam band in the 80s only hinted at, and then play it WAAAAAYYYYY over the top and inappropriate as a joke.   Think of the entire parties, cocaine, and groupies lifestyle and then take off every filter you can think of.   It's extremely misogynistic but played off as if it's "just a joke" and not serious.    There is some debate over whether that is funny or not. 

16 year old me would have said they were my #1 all time favorite band.   53 year old me is telling 16 year old me to shut his pie hole.   

[Mladen]

That's the best description of Steel Panther I've ever read. Good job, jammindude. 

[bosk1]

Yeah, that's about right.

[EPIC Outro]

I spoke to my buddy today and he pretty much described exactly what was just said. They don't sound like my cup of tea either.

[Glasser]

Ironically these guys write some catchy tunes and their guitarist, Russ Parrish, aka, Satchel, is an absolutely amazing guitarist. He played with Halford in Fight as well as Jeff Pilson's band War and Peace. Saw them live and it was extremely entertaining. If you take away the "Andrew Dice Clay" lyrics, Steel Panther are actually a great band.

[devieira73]

https://blabbermouth.net/news/queensryches-todd-la-torre-promises-rarely-performed-and-never-before-played-songs-on-upcoming-tour
Let's hope that this is for real!

[Ben_Jamin]

https://blabbermouth.net/news/queensryches-todd-la-torre-promises-rarely-performed-and-never-before-played-songs-on-upcoming-tour
Let's hope that this is for real!

Does this mean more recent album songs?

[devieira73]

As for QUEENSRźCHE's setlist for the upcoming tour, Todd said: "We're gonna play a nice handful of songs from ['Digital Noise Alliance'] and the last three records. And then I think we're talking about doing some pretty deep cuts that have never been done since the beginning of the band and maybe something that hasn't been done for sure at least maybe since I joined the band. And then you'll have a few staple songs, but I'm pretty sure that this setlist is gonna be really for the diehards that follow everything we do, because you're gonna have a huge chunk of my era with the band being played. If you [think] you're just gonna get a lot of the old stuff that we kind of usually play, a lot of that stuff is not gonna happen on this tour. So I'm looking forward to it."

[TAC]

As for QUEENSRźCHE's setlist for the upcoming tour, Todd said: "We're gonna play a nice handful of songs from ['Digital Noise Alliance'] and the last three records. And then I think we're talking about doing some pretty deep cuts that have never been done since the beginning of the band and maybe something that hasn't been done for sure at least maybe since I joined the band. And then you'll have a few staple songs, but I'm pretty sure that this setlist is gonna be really for the diehards that follow everything we do, because you're gonna have a huge chunk of my era with the band being played. If you [think] you're just gonna get a lot of the old stuff that we kind of usually play, a lot of that stuff is not gonna happen on this tour. So I'm looking forward to it."

Now that would actually make me consider going to see them.

[Lethean]

I'm definitely up for that and don't even consider myself a diehard.  I just want to hear something different.

[Samsara]

My guess:

DNA - 3
The Verdict - 1
Condition Human - 1
Self-Titled - 1
Promised Land - Damaged
Empire - Empire, Silent Lucidity, Jet City Woman
Mindcrime - Eyes of a Stranger, Speak, The Mission
RFO - Surgical Strike
The Warning - Deliverance
EP - Queen of the Reich

There's your 16 song, 80-minute set. Just an off-the-cuff guess. New songs, more from TLT era, some standards, and a few deep cuts that they'll want to do.

[Autumnhoney]

Am I the only one who'd be fine if they skipped Empire, Eyes of a stranger, Queen of the Reich and Jet City Woman? I noticed fans tend to pull out their phones and upload those to YouTube the most, so I'm probably in the minority.

I'd be happier with:
No Sanctuary
Before The Storm

I Dream In Infrared-I forgot this one
The Whisper- doubtful given how high the register is for most of the song.
Neue Regel- Also doubtful because the layering/ backing vocals are difficult live?

None of OMC

The Thin Line- I like the song and pretty sure Todd can reach the lower notes, maybe?

None of PL - Sorry guys!

Saved- Because I think Todd would have a lot of fun singing it and I'd like to hear his version.
You- See above. Also turn up Eddie's mic on this one.
Hit the black- purely for the fun of it and the bands enjoyment.
Spool

Dunno if these count as "deep cuts", I'm sure you guys know better than I if these are rarely played.

P.S. Never, NEVER, Sacred Ground. Burn it! Burn it with fire!

[romdrums]

Before the Storm would be something since they haven't played it since 1985, I think.

[wolfking]

No Sanctuary would be my pick for a deep cut for sure.  The Killing Words would be sweet too.

[Samsara]

I'd love them to do things they haven't done. I've been of the opinion that they should have been focusing on the La Torre era songs from the get-go. I've been saying that their main set should be all newer material, with an encore of classic hits. If you don't promote your new material in your set, it means you don't believe in it. If it's good, fans will embrace it. Many of QR's peers, DT, Fates Warning, etc., all promoted their newer material heavily in their sets. QR doesn't (not since American Solider). Hopefully that changes on QR's next tour.

re: The Whisper - they've played this a lot, particularly 2012-2014.

No Sanctuary - they did it a couple years ago for the tour. I saw it in 2019.

Before the Storm - this would be extremely rare. They haven't done BTS since the Rage for Order tour. Possible though. Deliverance is one that they haven't done either, although I know years ago they rehearsed it.

Saved, etc. - they have ignored all of HITNF, and I doubt they will do any of it.

The Thin Line - not sure La Torre era band has done this. I don't think they have.

[TAC]

Brian, has Toddryche ever played Deliverance?

[DTwwbwMP]

I'd love them to do things they haven't done. I've been of the opinion that they should have been focusing on the La Torre era songs from the get-go. I've been saying that their main set should be all newer material, with an encore of classic hits. If you don't promote your new material in your set, it means you don't believe in it. If it's good, fans will embrace it. Many of QR's peers, DT, Fates Warning, etc., all promoted their newer material heavily in their sets. QR doesn't (not since American Solider). Hopefully that changes on QR's next tour.

  That would certainly get me to attend!

[Mladen]

The Thin line is due for a comeback. 

[bosk1]

Do any of the current band members care about that song?  Legit question.

[bosk1]

Neue Regel- Also doubtful because the layering/ backing vocals are difficult live?

Nah, they've done it before.  It works.  And if they wanted to use a backing track for some of that, I'd be fine with that.

None of OMC

That's a pretty hot take.  Personally, I agree with that.  They've played it so much through the years that I'd be fine with it not being represented in the live shows for a long time to come.  But I think the vast majority of fans would disagree.  I think maybe a decent compromise would be to retire Eyes for awhile and bring in something like I Don't Believe in Love, Breaking the Silence, or The Mission instead.

P.S. Never, NEVER, Sacred Ground. Burn it! Burn it with fire!

Couldn't agree more.  But I don't think we have to worry.

[Autumnhoney]

I'd love them to do things they haven't done. I've been of the opinion that they should have been focusing on the La Torre era songs from the get-go. I've been saying that their main set should be all newer material, with an encore of classic hits. If you don't promote your new material in your set, it means you don't believe in it. If it's good, fans will embrace it. Many of QR's peers, DT, Fates Warning, etc., all promoted their newer material heavily in their sets. QR doesn't (not since American Solider). Hopefully that changes on QR's next tour.

  That would certainly get me to attend!

I'd be more than happy to have the bulk be the last four albums.

Sounds like a good compromise to me Bosk. 

[Autumnhoney]

Do any of the current band members care about that song?  Legit question.

Hmm, I'm actually quite curious about how they choose their set list. Beyond logistics (difficulty to play live etc.) I wonder what would make them absolutely not want to play something? I enjoy The Killing Words but I think that song was particularly personal to Geoff. No idea if that kind of sentimentality plays into the decision making process. Embarrassing lyrics? Relationship change? Why completely avoid HITNF?
 

[Samsara]

Brian, has Toddryche ever played Deliverance?

Nope.

[Samsara]

Do any of the current band members care about that song?  Legit question.

Hmm, I'm actually quite curious about how they choose their set list. Beyond logistics (difficulty to play live etc.) I wonder what would make them absolutely not want to play something? I enjoy The Killing Words but I think that song was particularly personal to Geoff. No idea if that kind of sentimentality plays into the decision making process. Embarrassing lyrics? Relationship change? Why completely avoid HITNF?
 

The Thin Line, bosk? I mean, only they know if they care about it or not. I mean, Tate and DeGarmo wrote all the classic lyrics (except for a couple Wilton wrote lyrically), so it's not like the guys are really tied to the song lyric-wise.

Autumn - they made a conscious choice to play the EP-Empire and focus the "new QR" around that. They added PL after fans complained, and now do I Am I and Damaged occasionally. TBH, I remember Todd telling me he didn't even own a copy of HITNF.

Only they can definitively answer how a setlist is constructed, but from what they've said in public, and what I heard several years back when I was around them more, they play the hits a lot because that's what gets the best reaction. That's a tell tale sign of a band that has become a nostalgia act. That's why this latest stuff about them pulling out deep cuts and playing their material with Todd more has me intrigued. I said to them from the get-go they should have played that entire self-titled record when it came out (it was only 35 minutes) and focus on new stuff like the band always had in years past. But they went the casino date and fly-in route instead of slugging it out in clubs in a bus, and with those audiences, the hits are what drives the pay days from the casino promoters who book the gigs.

So this whole new setlist thing in 2023, I will be very happily surprised if it happens that they are doing say six songs from the La Torre era and deep cuts from the other records. I hope so. And I hope no matter the reaction, they stick to it.

[Autumnhoney]

I was more of an industrial dance/goth listener in the 90's. The darker songs are my jam.
I was surprised when I looked up the writing credits for The Thin Line, I expected to see Tate's name given the BDSM theme.
Surprise surprise, all Degarmo...it's always the quiet ones.

Wait no... I was thinking of the whisper. Thin line has 3 writing credits, my bad.

[Glasser]

Brian, has Toddryche ever played Deliverance?

Nope.

This is the set list when I saw them this year at the Peekskill Paramount.

 Queen of the Reich, Warning, En Force, NM 156, Breaking the Silence, I Don’t Believe in Love, Man the Machine, Walk in the Shadows, The Whisper, Silent Lucidity, Jet City Woman, Operation: Mindcrime, The Needle Lies, Eyes of a Stranger Encore: Take Hold of the Flame, Screaming in Digital, Empire.

[Mladen]

Do any of the current band members care about that song?  Legit question.

Well, Michael did take part in writing it. Why wouldn't they care about it, though? Did they overplay it or something?

[Volante99]

I have nothing to add to this discussion except I saw Queensryche open for Priest in October and it was the LOUDEST band I’ve ever seen live, and I’ve been to nearly 100 shows. My ears were legitimately ringing for four days after the show.

[Setzer]

I have nothing to add to this discussion except I saw Queensryche open for Priest in October and it was the LOUDEST band I’ve ever seen live, and I’ve been to nearly 100 shows. My ears were legitimately ringing for four days after the show.

Queensr˙che or Judas Priest? 

[Volante99]

Queensryche.

…But Priest was pretty damn loud too. When Faulkner and Sneap hit the last chord on “Steeler” the house lights come up while a guitar tech in back hits the volume boost instantly causing my toupee to fly away and testicles to retract. 

[Grappler]

I started wearing earplugs in after a concert in 2011, but I always pull one out at every show for a few seconds just to see how loud it really is - and Priest was insanely loud. 

[bosk1]

I started wearing earplugs in after a concert in 2011, but I always pull one out at every show for a few seconds just to see how loud it really is - and Priest was insanely loud. 

Same.  I ended up leaving mine out at the JP show in San Francisco after determining it wasn't very loud.

[emtee]

Spun OM last night. Probably been 15 years since I last did so.

Totally deserving of all the accolades. It's a genuine masterpiece. Greatness from beginning to end.

[EPIC Outro]

We need a proper live album from this lineup ASAP.