NFL thread 2014 v. Frankford Yellow Jackets Lay the Pipe on the Dayton Triangles

[Dark Castle]

Fantastic day for the Bills and Chiefs 

[black_biff_stadler]

If Marv Levy ever coached your team, it was a good day.

[Tom Bombadil]

Ugh... way too many stupid turnovers and penalties for the Eagles. Should've been 21-7 going into halftime. Oh well, credit to the Cards for holding on.

[El Barto]

Ugh... way too many stupid turnovers and penalties for the Eagles. Should've been 21-7 going into halftime. Oh well, credit to the Cards for holding on.

Plenty of penalties to go around, but at the end of the day the Ealges just got barbequed at the end of the game. Still, great game, though.

[Dream Team]

Big Ben first QB in NFL history with two 500+ yard games. Also 6 TDs today to one-up Brady  .

[Dr. DTVT]

That game was just insane.

[King Postwhore]

Big Ben first QB in NFL history with two 500+ yard games. Also 6 TDs today to one-up Brady  .

One QB took the foot off the pedal.   The other couldn't.

[black_biff_stadler]

Man. I just don't know what to make of the Saints. I was literally completely at peace with the Saints fading and me being able to turn my Sundays into less vegetative days and then I have this ambivalent wrench thrown into the gears.

[Dark Castle]

[Xanthul]

As usual, whenever the Packers face a good offense, they melt. If our recipe for success is riding Aaron and hoping the defense stumbles upon one or two turnovers, we're in for another rough one and done come January.

[KevShmev]

It's hard to see the Packers coming out of the NFC, unless their defense gets a lot better really fast.  They've lost by double digits to every NFC team they've had to play on the road thus far.

I am surprised there wasn't any chatter about the offensive PI that negated Steve Smith's TD late that would have probably given Baltimore the win.  While it bit tick-tacky, he did push off, and I've seen defensive backs called for PI for a lot worse, so I was fine with it.

Pretty crazy passing day by the Steelers yesterday.  Every time I looked up, they had scored again.

I'm amused to see how much ESPN is still talking about the Jets.  Okay, okay, I know it's the NY factor, but between Tebow two years ago and this nonsense, I've never seen so much coverage of a non-contender as I have the last three seasons.  Meanwhile, the Bills, Cardinals and Browns, all of whom are over .500, barely get talked about.

Speaking of those Cardinals, anyone still have any doubts as to them being a top NFC contender?

[bosk1]

Speaking of those Cardinals, anyone still have any doubts as to them being a top NFC contender?

After beating Philly, I think they've earned it. 

[jammindude]

It's still rumor, but remember, if it happens, I called it.

The Hawks are eyeballing V-Jax.

Can't paste the link tho, darn it.

[Tom Bombadil]

Speaking of those Cardinals, anyone still have any doubts as to them being a top NFC contender?

After beating Philly, I think they've earned it.

They didn't beat Philly. Philly beat Philly.

But I agree the cards are underappreciated

[El Barto]

It's still rumor, but remember, if it happens, I called it.

The Hawks are eyeballing V-Jax.

Can't paste the link tho, darn it.

Along with a few others. NE seems to be in the hunt, as well. I don't think it'd work for them, but who the hell knows anymore.

[Skeever]

Fantastic day for the Bills and Chiefs 

Bills played horrible. I get that they scored 40 points but the Jets GAVE THEM 6 OF THEIR POSSESSIONS. lol

[Dark Castle]

Fantastic day for the Bills and Chiefs 

Bills played horrible. I get that they scored 40 points but the Jets GAVE THEM 6 OF THEIR POSSESSIONS. lol

LOL. Kyle Orton threw 4 TD's and 238 yds. Sammy Watkins alone had over 157 yds recieving and a TD. Obviously our running game is considerably weakened with Fred Jackson and CJ Spiller out, but we did not play horrible.

[Skeever]

To put those passing stats in perspective, the Jets have backup WR's playing cornerback and converted linebackers playing as safeties. So sorry but those passing stats are meaningless to me. If the Bills can repeat that type of performance on ANY team on their schedule this year, I'll believe that they played great. The Jets are the worst team in the league right now.

[bosk1]

That tackle at the 6 yard line was a bit embarrassing though.  Youngsters need to learn not to celebrate until after they cross the goal line. 

[Dark Castle]

That tackle at the 6 yard line was a bit embarrassing though.  Youngsters need to learn not to celebrate until after they cross the goal line. 

It definitely was, but he made up for it with his touchdown later, he kept looking back to see he was in the clear before he started slowing down to burn time.

[black_biff_stadler]

DAMN!!! That skins gunner knocked the piss outta that Cowboys returner!

[El Barto]

DAMN!!! That skins gunner knocked the piss outta that Cowboys returner!

Yeah, since when are you allowed to hit a returner in the face with both hands?

[Dark Castle]

DAMN!!! That skins gunner knocked the piss outta that Cowboys returner!

Yeah, since when are you allowed to hit a returner in the face with both hands?

Skins know nothing about class when it comes to playing ball.

[black_biff_stadler]

Just rewound it and watched it four times. Gunner was going for the shoulders, returner flinched anticipating contact thus lowering his face into the line of impact. At full speed, there's no way the tackler could've adjusted to avoid it. Zero ill intent beyond a devastating, fully-legal hit.

[bosk1]

That tackle at the 6 yard line was a bit embarrassing though.  Youngsters need to learn not to celebrate until after they cross the goal line. 

It definitely was, but he made up for it with his touchdown later, he kept looking back to see he was in the clear before he started slowing down to burn time.

That's good.  Unless the guy in question is a total douche, I always feel bad for guys when stupid stuff like that happens.  If you can make up for it in some way, it's more palatable.

[black_biff_stadler]

Desean Jackson has mastered this sort of fail.

[Dark Castle]

That tackle at the 6 yard line was a bit embarrassing though.  Youngsters need to learn not to celebrate until after they cross the goal line. 

It definitely was, but he made up for it with his touchdown later, he kept looking back to see he was in the clear before he started slowing down to burn time.

That's good.  Unless the guy in question is a total douche, I always feel bad for guys when stupid stuff like that happens.  If you can make up for it in some way, it's more palatable.

Yeah, luckily Sammy Watkins has been nothing but a class act rookie, and as long as he learns from any mistakes and works to improve himself, can't get mad at the guy, he's been a great asset for the team so far, and I'm so glad the Bills made sure to snatch him.

[KevShmev]

Fantastic day for the Bills and Chiefs 

Bills played horrible. I get that they scored 40 points but the Jets GAVE THEM 6 OF THEIR POSSESSIONS. lol

No, the Bills took them away.  They are called takeaways for a reason.

As for Watkins, it's not like he was high-stepping or holding the ball out like Leon Lett; he held a finger up and slowed down a tad, cause he likely had no idea the DB was that close.  Not a big deal, IMO.

Also, Jay Gruden's decision to start Colt McCoy looks really poor; McCoy looks awful.  Kirk Cousins wasn't playing that well, but he was still a lot better than McCoy. 

[El Barto]

Just rewound it and watched it four times. Gunner was going for the shoulders, returner flinched anticipating contact thus lowering his face into the line of impact. At full speed, there's no way the tackler could've adjusted to avoid it. Zero ill intent beyond a devastating, fully-legal hit.

Yeah, ask DJ Swearinger how many shits the league has to give about intent or impossibility of avoiding contact. You hit a receiver, kicker or a quarterback in the head it doesn't make any difference if it was avoidable or not.

[Dublagent66]

Well, that 1st half was a snooze fest except for the Dez Bryant TD.  What a beast.

[Rattlehead]

I hope Romo is ok 

[black_biff_stadler]

Just rewound it and watched it four times. Gunner was going for the shoulders, returner flinched anticipating contact thus lowering his face into the line of impact. At full speed, there's no way the tackler could've adjusted to avoid it. Zero ill intent beyond a devastating, fully-legal hit.

Yeah, ask DJ Swearinger how many shits the league has to give about intent or impossibility of avoiding contact. You hit a receiver, kicker or a quarterback in the head it doesn't make any difference if it was avoidable or not.

Refs usually only overreact that poorly if it involves a QB or a "defenseless" player scenario and neither applied here.

[jingle.boy]

Just rewound it and watched it four times. Gunner was going for the shoulders, returner flinched anticipating contact thus lowering his face into the line of impact. At full speed, there's no way the tackler could've adjusted to avoid it. Zero ill intent beyond a devastating, fully-legal hit.

Yeah, ask DJ Swearinger how many shits the league has to give about intent or impossibility of avoiding contact. You hit a receiver, kicker or a quarterback in the head it doesn't make any difference if it was avoidable or not.

Refs usually only overreact that poorly if it involves a QB or a "defenseless" player scenario and neither applied here.

There's something to be said about being consistent.

[black_biff_stadler]

I meant it's shitty for the call to be made erroneously, regardless of context, but even the league usually doesn't call unnecessary roughness where it's the ball carrier's choosing to move their head into oncoming traffic in situations involving neither a QB nor defenseless player.

[El Barto]

I meant it's shitty for the call to be made erroneously, regardless of context, but even the league usually doesn't call unnecessary roughness where it's the ball carrier's choosing to move their head into oncoming traffic in situations involving neither a QB nor defenseless player.

In two separate posts you said he took a brutal hit and that he was hit in the head. You can't even scratch your balls in the NFL without a flag for hands to the face, and that hit certainly involved two pretty hard ones. If you want to say that it's no flag if it's unavoidable then I'd vote for that, but it's not the case. Like JB said, at least be consistent.

In the mean time this has turned into a damned entertaining game.