NFL thread 2014 v. Frankford Yellow Jackets Lay the Pipe on the Dayton Triangles

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Seattle losing at San Diego is no choke by any stretch of the imagination. It did serve to remind people that they are not invincible. And while they clearly have one of the very best defenses (if not the best), that there are ways to attack them. 

[jingle.boy]

Not to mention that SD took it to Denver in both their meetings last year.

[KevShmev]

In the Russell Wilson era, counting the playoffs:

Seattle at home: 18-1
Seattle on the road: 10-9

So yeah, they are definitely mortal on the road, but if they get home field, they are going to the Super Bowl again, and probably winning it.

However, Marshawn Lynch has a lingering back problem, which is partially why his touches were limited yesterday, so that is something to keep an eye on.

[Neon]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but I saw it yesterday and couldn't stop laughing.

[Neon]

This Eagles team is so bi-polar that they're simultaneously infuriating and exhilarating to watch. 

For every three or four doof plays, there seems to be one spectacular one. 

[jammindude]

Andrew Luck = Hans Klopek from the classic Tom Hanks movie The Burbs...

Think about it, won't you?   

[Tom Bombadil]

This game is killing my nerves.

[KevShmev]

Serious question:

Who is dumber, the Saints for giving Darren Sproles away for practically nothing, or the Colts for overusing Trent Richardson tonight which probably cost them the game?

[jingle.boy]

No kidding... was just coming in to say that was a great game.  Can't believe Richardson even got back in the game after putting the ball on the ground for the second time.

Although, I'm dumbest for benching Sproles! 

The Eagles were helped by two very bad calls - the non-PI call on Hilton that got them the pick; followed immediately by the pony-collar tackle.

Good game to watch though.

[Tom Bombadil]

I didn't think there was PI on the pick. Looked like he just fell down to me. But I agree with the horse collar.

Most exciting game I've seen in a long time, at least from my perspective as an Eagles fan lol.

[KevShmev]

I didn't think there was PI on the pick. Looked like he just fell down to me. But I agree with the horse collar.

Most exciting game I've seen in a long time, at least from my perspective as an Eagles fan lol.

Sure.  It was clear as day.

Regardless, I still put this loss on the moronic Colts coaching staff.

[Neon]

Man that was a nail-biter.

But awesome.

It's also nice to see that Chip Kelly apparently knows how to manage the time clock. 

[jingle.boy]

I didn't think there was PI on the pick. Looked like he just fell down to me. But I agree with the horse collar.

Most exciting game I've seen in a long time, at least from my perspective as an Eagles fan lol.

Sure.  It was clear as day.

Regardless, I still put this loss on the moronic Colts coaching staff.

Agreed... that 3-and-out on their last possession was pathetic attempt to win the game.

[ReaPsTA]

Yeah Birds!!!!

Serious question:

Who is dumber, the Saints for giving Darren Sproles away for practically nothing, or the Colts for overusing Trent Richardson tonight which probably cost them the game?

Saints.  Richardson had some good runs.  Trading Sproles for a 5th round pick is incomprehensible.

The Eagles were helped by two very bad calls - the non-PI call on Hilton that got them the pick; followed immediately by the pony-collar tackle.

Good game to watch though.

Refs held the whistle on some bad PI calls against us.  Bad calls go both ways.

It's also nice to see that Chip Kelly apparently knows how to manage the time clock. 

Yes!

I was seriously thinking of quitting the Eagles during the last two Reid years.  It was so bad.  Having a real coach is amazing.  Please never leave us Chip.

Regardless, I still put this loss on the moronic Colts coaching staff.

Agreed... that 3-and-out on their last possession was pathetic attempt to win the game.

The Colts did best against the Eagles with runs to the side and like ~10 yard pass plays.  The Eagles never found an answer to either scheme.  During the last drive, they did two up the gut runs then a weird hook back pass route that gave the defensive line a lot of time to get pressure on Luck.  Like, seriously, I don't get it.  The Eagles' biggest strength against the Colts' offense was their pass rush.  On the most crucial play of the game, the Colts ran a play that gave the Eagles time to get a nice rush in before Luck threw the ball.

Baffling.

[hefdaddy42]

Fun game last night.

[El Barto]

So the Vikings just lost their first (but not last) sponsor. This foray into mob rule is becoming so silly that eventually the league (and the teams) are going to have to stand up to it. It's a lot easier to dump a bad team than a good one. I guarantee that if the Vikings were to win a championship (even the division) then they'd get their sponsors back. It's fucking twitter that's driving the mob right now, and in a few months nobody will be thinking about AP, other than how good he is.

Besides, how long could any team last if they let the mob dictate how saintly their players have to be.

[ReaPsTA]

This is the weird way society balances out.

Before, this kind of stuff was basically covered up.  Let's say twenty years ago rumor has it there's an audio tape circling around of Donald Sterling saying racist things.  NBA investigators find the tape and either bribe the person possessing it into keeping it hush or they destroy it.  If a star running back was accused of beating his kids, all the newspapers would know not to talk about it too much unless they wanted their league access revoked.

What you're seeing now is the public figuring out the power they have.  It's not just that though.  It's also the reaction to basically the last 8000 years of human history.  'So what you're saying is that not only can these people no longer cover up their misdeeds, but we can make sure they're punished!?  Yes!!!!!"

[KevShmev]

The problem with that, generally speaking, it that it's essentially vigilante social justice.  The masses overreact to everything now immediately the minute it happens.

[ReaPsTA]

The problem with that, generally speaking, it that it's essentially vigilante social justice.  The masses overreact to everything now immediately the minute it happens.

Then people who have power shouldn't be incompetent.  If Goodell suspended Rice for six games from the beginning, none of this would have happened.

People give up mob rule under the assumption that governments/courts/arbitrators/authority figures can do a better job.  If mob rule is becoming a thing, it's because authority figures are doing a bad job.

[KevShmev]

Agreed.  I just think the "mob" takes it too far sometimes, declaring an immediate, emotional verdict, even if it flies in the face of facts.  Those in charge being held more accountable is never a bad thing, since corruption starts at the top, but the power of social media now is a bit frightening.

[El Barto]

The problem with that, generally speaking, it that it's essentially vigilante social justice.  The masses overreact to everything now immediately the minute it happens.

Add to that, it's very quick to overreact and very slow (as in incapable) of self-correcting.

The problem with that, generally speaking, it that it's essentially vigilante social justice.  The masses overreact to everything now immediately the minute it happens.

Then people who have power shouldn't be incompetent.  If Goodell suspended Rice for six games from the beginning, none of this would have happened.

People give up mob rule under the assumption that governments/courts/arbitrators/authority figures can do a better job.  If mob rule is becoming a thing, it's because authority figures are doing a bad job.

Is the role of the authority to make only decisions that people agree with? Sometimes the right call is one that pisses everybody off.

[hefdaddy42]

I've gotta side with EB on this one. 

[KevShmev]

Is the role of the authority to make only decisions that people agree with? Sometimes the right call is one that pisses everybody off.

Very true.

[jingle.boy]

Agreed.  I just think the "mob" takes it too far sometimes, declaring an immediate, emotional verdict, even if it flies in the face of facts.  Those in charge being held more accountable is never a bad thing, since corruption starts at the top, but the power of social media now is a bit frightening.

Not to make this a P/R thing, but no shit!  The middle east situations have proved that.

[ReaPsTA]

Is the role of the authority to make only decisions that people agree with? Sometimes the right call is one that pisses everybody off.

I know what you're saying, but the pendulum has swung too far in favor of authority figures making decisions that are purely self-serving.

If you look at Goodell's whole track record with player discipline, it was less about enforcing good behavior than it was signalling that he's a tough guy.  The Ray Rice decision was the apotheosis of that.  Even if Goodell didn't see the tape, it's likely that he didn't watch it on purpose because he didn't want to have to deal with the consequences of it being horrific.  He was trying to create plausible deniability for himself.  He wanted to suspend Rice for two games to do him and the Ravens a favor and move on.

I don't see how this kind of corruption is any better than the current situation.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

I work with quite a few Washington fans. And to a man (person) they all feel that Cousins has been the better QB all along, and that RGIII keeps getting chance after chance only because of how much Washington gave up just to sign him. The rest of the country is going to learn which this part of the country has known for quite some time now, Cousins could be great, if given a chance. This is his chance, and he has pieces around him. So if he can't make the most of it, he'll have no one to blame but himself.

[King Postwhore]

We live in a PC world now.  It affects everything in life now.  Us old farts just have to get used to it I guess.

[Accelerando]

I work with quite a few Washington fans. And to a man (person) they all feel that Cousins has been the better QB all along, and that RGIII keeps getting chance after chance only because of how much Washington gave up just to sign him. The rest of the country is going to learn which this part of the country has known for quite some time now, Cousins could be great, if given a chance. This is his chance, and he has pieces around him. So if he can't make the most of it, he'll have no one to blame but himself.

They both are two, fantastic QBs. Different QBs at that too. If RGIII was healthy, I think he could be one of the most exciting players to watch. He was the most exciting player to watch his rookie year. That being said, I think right now that Cousins is a better QB and this is his time show the world how great he can be. I think the injury RGIII suffered in the playoffs in his rookie year got to him mentally. He lacks confidence and that affects play. But I have no doubt in my mind that RGIII was better that rookie year.

[TAC]

  Us old farts just have to get used to it I guess.

You're not old. You're youth-challenged.

[King Postwhore]

  Us old farts just have to get used to it I guess.

You're not old. You're youth-challenged.

See!  Damn PC way of saying it.

[orcus116]

The problem with that, generally speaking, it that it's essentially vigilante social justice.  The masses overreact to everything now immediately the minute it happens.

Well members of the general public are obsessed with out-offending and out-righteous each other.

[ReaPsTA]

Anheuser-Busch "Not Yet Satisfied" by NFL response to domestic violence.

The story talks about how a lot of sponsors are also not pleased with the league.

[TAC]

Anheuser-Busch "Not Yet Satisfied" by NFL response to domestic violence.

Ironic considering their portrayal of women in their commercials.

[cramx3]

Yea a beer sponsor seemed like the least likely to respond to this.

[ReaPsTA]

Anheuser-Busch "Not Yet Satisfied" by NFL response to domestic violence.

Ironic considering their portrayal of women in their commercials.

Of course.  But corporate sponsors threatening to pull money is very bad.  Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like companies don't threaten to do this unless they're serious.  You usually don't even get a threat.  Nike just pulled its AP stuff from stores without warning.