NFL thread 2014 v. Frankford Yellow Jackets Lay the Pipe on the Dayton Triangles

[Neon]

And for regularly scheduled NFL chat:

Eagles:  God damn I was sweating that game for the whole first half- Foles can be really great and he can be really shaky and it seems to be a crap shoot which one we're going to get.  Thankfully once everyone got into a "groove" it turned around.  But I really worry...if they hadn't been playing the notoriously bad Jaguars, they might not have gotten away with that.

Thankfully, even if the Eagles are mediocre at best this season, the rest of the NFC East appears to be even worse, which is good news.

  at the Cowboys and how they're already completely deflated as if it was like week 12 already.  Fuck I hate the Cowboys and they're so laughably bad it's spectacular.  Tony Romo is one of my favorite QBs for the simple reason that he makes the Cowboys so much worse. 

at the Giants for pretty much the same reason. 

And at the Redskins just because. 

[Neon]

[Nick]

To me this is another example of the sketchiness of the NFL and pro sports in general. The tape didn't reveal any new information, at least not that I'm aware. This makes me think that the Ravens cutting Rice was purely a PR move and they couldn't care less about what he actually did.

Ding ding ding.

Kev, can you please stay on topic?  If you want to talk about that other stuff, that's fine, but don't do it in the Ray Rice thread.

Ray Rice? According to the Thread Title, we should be talking about the Saints   

Green. It was implied.

[ReaPsTA]

And for regularly scheduled NFL chat:

Oh thank god let's talk Eagles.

Eagles:  God damn I was sweating that game for the whole first half- Foles can be really great and he can be really shaky and it seems to be a crap shoot which one we're going to get.  Thankfully once everyone got into a "groove" it turned around.  But I really worry...if they hadn't been playing the notoriously bad Jaguars, they might not have gotten away with that.

Foles was really scary that game.  Even during the second half, his balls never quite had the right zip to them.  He showed what he can do last year, so I think he can turn it around, but this was not an encouraging first game.

Thankfully, even if the Eagles are mediocre at best this season, the rest of the NFC East appears to be even worse, which is good news.

It's insane.  Each one of those teams is fundamentally broken in some way.

[KevShmev]

Chris Berman and Trent Dilfer doing the late game...Lord, give me the strength.

[ReaPsTA]

Chris Berman and Trent Dilfer doing the late game...Lord, give me the strength.

Please everyone let's pray for Kev.  He's going through some tough times right now.

[KevShmev]

LOL, but seriously, who does Berman have dirty info on at ESPN?  He is so awful on every level now.

[jammindude]

You're just an old curmudgeon.   I like Boomer...   

I guess it's just a nostalgia thing for me...   

[snapple]

If TMZ actually has proof the league had the video before hand....fuck that actually makes me sick. Fuck Goodell and his shitting fucking job.

[black_biff_stadler]

  at Neon's pic.

Also, fuck Berman being called Boomer. Nobody outside of ESPN calls him that. Boomer Esiason is the only Boomer.

[Neon]

at Neon's pic.

Also, fuck Berman being called Boomer. Nobody outside of ESPN calls him that. Boomer Esiason is the only Boomer.

To be fair, it's not mine...I'm part of an NFL smack talk group on facebook and someone there posted it. 

And I've always felt the same way about the whole "Boomer" thing. 

[jingle.boy]

Berman isn't the worst part of that announcing tandem.  I can tolerate Berman in small doses.  I just flip the channel periodically to cleanse my ears.

Seriously, I can't remember a duo where I really liked both.  Sommerall (good) had Madden ( ); Anyone (good) had Dierdorf ( ); Lundquist (good) had anyone; Simms (good) had to listen to Gumbel ( )

[black_biff_stadler]

Simms is an overconfident, often-wrong hillbilly. He speaks with this tone of 110% certainty on so many issues where he's only voicing an opinion or flat out incorrect.

[El Barto]

Nice comeback from AZ, but they should have been eating clock this entire drive. They were clearly trying to save clock and now SD had two and a half minutes.

[KevShmev]

Nice comeback from AZ, but they should have been eating clock this entire drive. They were clearly trying to save clock and now SD had two and a half minutes.

Eh, I almost always disagree with that line of thinking.  When you are trailing, especially when you are in a game that didn't have a lot of scoring, you score when you can.  You don't dunce around and run a few throwaway runs to kill clock, because what if you waste those downs and end up not scoring and losing?  All to waste time on a drive that didn't end in a score.  Nope, you score when you can.

[Accelerando]

If Larry Fitzgerald was catching passes from someone like Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers, he'd be one of the best receivers in the league. He SHOULD be one of the best receivers. His reach is just crazy.

[hefdaddy42]

his balls never quite had the right zip to them. 

He should visit this thread.

[Dark Castle]

If Larry Fitzgerald was catching passes from someone like Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers, he'd be one of the best receivers in the league. He SHOULD be one of the best receivers. His reach is just crazy.

Would make me a lot happier that he was on my Fantasy team 

[Dr. DTVT]

Just because Fitzgerald doesn't have the quality of QB that other top flight WR's have doesn't make him any less of a receiver.  That's damn fantasy football thinking.  He would be just as good on other teams, but the quality around him would change his production.

[jingle.boy]

Just because Fitzgerald doesn't have the quality of QB that other top flight WR's have doesn't make him any less of a receiver.  That's damn fantasy football thinking.  He would be just as good on other teams, but the quality around him would change his production.

Agreed.  Enter Exhibit A - Megatron.  Exhibit B - AJ Green.

There's lots of exceptional WRs still being exceptional despite having an average QB throwing to them.

[KevShmev]

In this day and age of inflated passing numbers, Fitzgerald is someone who is always better than the stats he puts up.  Granted, you expect more than one catch out of him, but the Cardinals have a lot of young talent at WR now, so there is no need to force feed Fitz the ball.  He'll get his over the course of the season (although "his" won't be stud numbers for fantasy ball).

[El Barto]

Nice comeback from AZ, but they should have been eating clock this entire drive. They were clearly trying to save clock and now SD had two and a half minutes.

Eh, I almost always disagree with that line of thinking.  When you are trailing, especially when you are in a game that didn't have a lot of scoring, you score when you can.  You don't dunce around and run a few throwaway runs to kill clock, because what if you waste those downs and end up not scoring and losing?  All to waste time on a drive that didn't end in a score.  Nope, you score when you can.

I wasn't thinking about that level of clock killing. I'm just thinking stay in bounds each play, where they were clearly trying every play to get of bounds to stop the clock. They went from 6 minutes to two and a half, and that easily could have been one and a half if they'd played normally without trying to rush the clock. The outcome was the same, but I was annoyed that their coach had clearly directed them all to save the clock.

[KevShmev]

I think that moronic play call on the first 2-point try was way more egregious.  A direct snap to the RB and your QB isn't even on the field?  That's awful.  Losing 20-18 would have been poetic justice for that nonsense.

[Dream Team]

Every sports league should institute a "no-tolerance" policy on criminal behavior on and off the field. It needs to get cleaned up. Of course due process would have to be involved, but any conviction should result in a lifetime ban. There are plenty of players who behave like decent citizens sitting on the benches waiting to replace the thugs.

[Chino]

Wow... His wife is a moron.

[KevShmev]

His wife is a moron.

Yeah, some of the grammar mistakes in there really don't make her look very smart.

What exactly is "a horrific"?

 

[Chino]

If real love is smashing your lover's head into the wall, dragging her out of an elevator, dropping her face into the floor as you tell the security guard she's drunk, and then somehow manage to get her to not press charges (NFL paychecks and endorsements on the reg), then I have no idea why my girlfriend stays with me.

[Jaq]

I'm too busy being horrified by the level of battered wife syndrome I'm seeing here to nitpick her grammar, frankly.

[Dark Castle]

I'm too busy being horrified by the level of battered wife syndrome I'm seeing here to nitpick her grammar, frankly.

Essentially this.

[El Barto]

Despite the fact that the entire world seems to know her better than she knows herself, the fact remains that she's trying to move on and some of her points are perfectly valid, if poorly expressed.

[hefdaddy42]

Despite the fact that the entire world seems to know her better than she knows herself, the fact remains that she's trying to move on and some of her points are perfectly valid, if poorly expressed.

I agree.  Whatever his faults may be, nothing is different now than two days ago, except that he got cut, suspended, and probably will never play again, meaning unemployment and even more chaos into her life.

But let's do the right thing and help her.

*shrugs*

[KevShmev]

I can see it now: they'll be divorced within two years and will be blaming it on the media for never letting them get past it. 

Granted, the media does go crazy with stuff like this - did ESPN really need to move their ESPN2 shows to ESPN News yesterday so they could have Sportscenter on two channels where the Rice story was talked about it non-stop - but I think we all knew it was inevitable that the video would eventually be seen by everyone.  Nowadays, everything gets out there eventually.  That is why, if the NFL and the Ravens are lying about having not seen the tape prior to yesterday, they are morons.  Like Jim Rome often says, the cover-up is worse than the crime.

[Chino]

Despite the fact that the entire world seems to know her better than she knows herself, the fact remains that she's trying to move on and some of her points are perfectly valid, if poorly expressed.

You know, I hate to say it, but if you date a celebrity, you knowingly accept the risk of something like this happening. I hate when websites or networks obviously milk or release stuff for the sake of publicity and ratings, but I have no problem with something like this. As far as I am concerned, this man is a danger to society, his wife, and any children they may have in the future. It's not like footage from their home security system was stolen and sold. This happened in a public space. As far as I am concerned, the people who had possession of the tape initially should have been legally (and morally) obligated to bring this to light.

[jingle.boy]

I'm too busy being horrified by the level of battered wife syndrome I'm seeing here to nitpick her grammar, frankly.

Ayup.

Despite the fact that the entire world seems to know her better than she knows herself, the fact remains that she's trying to move on and some of her points are perfectly valid, if poorly expressed.

I would hardly call marrying Mr. Rice AFTER getting cold-cocked by him an attempt to "move on".  She clearly does know herself, and has a diminished sense of self-respect to stay with a person who would/could do something like this.

[El Barto]

Despite the fact that the entire world seems to know her better than she knows herself, the fact remains that she's trying to move on and some of her points are perfectly valid, if poorly expressed.

I would hardly call marrying Mr. Rice AFTER getting cold-cocked by him an attempt to "move on".  She clearly does know herself, and has a diminished sense of self-respect to stay with a person who would/could do something like this.

You might be right, and you might be stunningly off base. Unless you know these people I don't really see yours (or anybody else's) opinions carrying much weight. All I know is that at this point it's her decision to make. However, that sort of misses the point. Regardless of why she remains with him, does this help her? I don't see how this isn't going to be financially devastating and that'll play a huge part in however their situation plays out.