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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: Ħ on July 09, 2012, 03:02:04 PM
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Will they be remembered? Will they still have fans? Will there a a sudden surge in prog rock in the mainstream that brings them attention as the founders of prog metal? What do you guys think?
I hope they stay remembered in spite of the fact that the rate of musicians getting their name out there is growing. DT's an important band in history and hopefully the fire never dies.
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It's hard to say, really, because the music industry is a very different thing from what it was 50 years ago. Not very many people are familiar with artists like Bing Crosby, The Andrews Sisters, etc. And those are some of the MORE popular artists of their era. But since the 1960's, the quality of sound has grown tremendously and music like The Beatles is still widely available and accessible today. But again, the most popular of their era. Still, there isn't MUCH further we could go in terms of providing better quality sound. So unless there's some new and revolutionary way to record sound in such a way that it'll sound even better to the human ear, like it burrows right into your brain, I doubt the quality of current music will ever be considered, "retro sounding" as far as how crisp and clear and deep it is.
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me. All I care about is my own blood line. When I have kids, I'll make sure they're listening to Dream Theater. The spirit will carry on.
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It will be funny when I'm 68 and pulling out a DT record. I'll be the cool Grandpa. I'll keep the memory alive.
If it works out well enough, JP and JM, JLB, MM, and MP could still be alive in 50 years, so it'd be interesting if they were still alive in 50 years, if they would at least still be known for their guitar, bass, drum, vocal prowess or still talk about it.
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I think 500 years is a much better question. Will bands like Dream Theater be considered classical composers in a few hundred years? I'd like to think so.
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I think 500 years is a much better question. Will bands like Dream Theater be considered classical composers in a few hundred years? I'd like to think so.
:lol Don't get your hopes up!
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I think 500 years is a much better question. Will bands like Dream Theater be considered classical composers in a few hundred years? I'd like to think so.
It's almost worth spending 275$ for the M&G just to ask this question and see the look of astonishment on JP's face. :lol
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:lol Don't get your hopes up!
I think that's actually a more likely scenario than having them be popular in 50 years.
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I can't help but wonder though, how many bands have there been in the past forty-fifty years that had the same level of success as DT-some albums noticed by the mainstream, but mostly cruising along with a smallish but devoted audience-that people have already forgotten?
The answer is likely to depress me, to be honest.
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I can't help but wonder though, how many bands have there been in the past forty-fifty years that had the same level of success as DT-some albums noticed by the mainstream, but mostly cruising along with a smallish but devoted audience-that people have already forgotten?
The answer is likely to depress me, to be honest.
Yeah, it's kind of sad how few people know of Uriah Heep. I thought they were one of the best Prog Rock bands of their time. I like their music better than Deep Purple.
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I think 500 years is a much better question. Will bands like Dream Theater be considered classical composers in a few hundred years? I'd like to think so.
Well let's wait to see how we view Mozart and Beethoven in 200 years first, then we'll see. :lol
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Well let's wait to see how we view Mozart and Beethoven in 200 years first, then we'll see. :lol
Yes, then we'll definitely know the answer... And won't be dead at all.
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I just say that because how many composers do you know from 500 years ago?
Though records weren't kept as well then as they are now, but still.
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I could name a few, but then again, I'm a musicology/music history student. I think the question is way too difficult to answer. Popular music has only been going on for about 150-180 years and only really took off in a massive state with recorded music (say 60-70 years ago when it really started). Dream Theater is a band that has only existed for a little over 20 years. To ask where they will be in 3 times the time they existed and roughly double the time since popular music really took off is not one we can answer right now, just like people couldn't answer how the year 2000 would look like in the fifties.
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50 years from now, Images and Words will be 70 years old. Sad as it may be, most people now don't pay any attention to music from 1942. And even music from 1962 doesn't seem to be as popular as it was 10 or so years ago. I like "oldies" from the 50s and early 60s a lot even though they were from long before I was born, but their popularity seems to be waning as people who grew up with them pass away.
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50 years from now, Images and Words will be 70 years old. Sad as it may be, most people now don't pay any attention to music from 1942. And even music from 1962 doesn't seem to be as popular as it was 10 or so years ago. I like "oldies" from the 50s and early 60s a lot even though they were from long before I was born, but their popularity seems to be waning as people who grew up with them pass away.
Yeah, but now it's different. I mean, the Beatles were the popular music of its time, the mainstream, and they'll always be remembered. But these days, mainstream music comes and goes. How many people do you know that still listen to stuff like Blink 182, or that remember, "The Real Slim Shady". In a few years, Poker Face will be a minor foot note in popular music, whereas, the small cult followings like us, who have been listening to Dream Theater for years, and STILL finding new things in Images and Words, we're the ones who are going to keep this music and pass it along.
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50 years from now, Images and Words will be 70 years old. Sad as it may be, most people now don't pay any attention to music from 1942. And even music from 1962 doesn't seem to be as popular as it was 10 or so years ago. I like "oldies" from the 50s and early 60s a lot even though they were from long before I was born, but their popularity seems to be waning as people who grew up with them pass away.
Yeah, but now it's different. I mean, the Beatles were the popular music of its time, the mainstream, and they'll always be remembered. But these days, mainstream music comes and goes. How many people do you know that still listen to stuff like Blink 182, or that remember, "The Real Slim Shady". In a few years, Poker Face will be a minor foot note in popular music, whereas, the small cult followings like us, who have been listening to Dream Theater for years, and STILL finding new things in Images and Words, we're the ones who are going to keep this music and pass it along.
So you're saying that current mainstream stuff will be forgotten but niche stuff like DT will be remembered because its fans are more loyal? Sorry, but tons more people will remember Eminem than DT. Most people don't even know what prog rock is. I'm not saying DT will be completely forgotten or anything, but they're already relatively obscure. Prog fans do tend to be open to listening to music from all eras though, so that's one positive.
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DT will be remembered by people who were fans of the band now, and maybe their children. I don't expect much else, though. It's not like DT's on the radio now, so why would it be notable in 50 years?
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50 years from now, Images and Words will be 70 years old. Sad as it may be, most people now don't pay any attention to music from 1942. And even music from 1962 doesn't seem to be as popular as it was 10 or so years ago. I like "oldies" from the 50s and early 60s a lot even though they were from long before I was born, but their popularity seems to be waning as people who grew up with them pass away.
Yeah, but now it's different. I mean, the Beatles were the popular music of its time, the mainstream, and they'll always be remembered. But these days, mainstream music comes and goes. How many people do you know that still listen to stuff like Blink 182, or that remember, "The Real Slim Shady". In a few years, Poker Face will be a minor foot note in popular music, whereas, the small cult followings like us, who have been listening to Dream Theater for years, and STILL finding new things in Images and Words, we're the ones who are going to keep this music and pass it along.
Those were not good examples, as plenty of people still listen to and enjoy Eminem and blink-182. You may not like that music, but that's real music that real music fans enjoy. It's the teen-pop stuff that will be long forgotten, just like a lot of the pop from the 70s is no where to be found (whereas, classic rock (the 70s "version" of Eminem and blink-182) is still remembered). Much of the 80s pop will be soon forgotten as well, but it'll take longer as some 80s pop is good, just dated. Then again, much of the pop music around today could easily sound like it was from the 80s, just change the drum sound and you're good. Also, a TON of the mainstream hip-hop that is around today will definitely be forgotten over time.
Dream Theater are the kind of band where, in 20 years, will be just as popular as they are now, maybe more. The classic prog bands have all acknowledged how many young people enjoy their music, and how there has been a resurgence in their popularity in the last 10 years, (Yes, Genesis, Camel, etc), or the bands that were a little too out there for the 70s crowd, or too ahead of their time, now are appreciated by many people (Gentle Giant, King Crimson, Frank Zappa, etc). I wouldn't worry about people forgetting Dream Theater.
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I can't imagine where the band will be in 50 years but I can tell you those of us fans who're still alive by then are gonna be envied for having seen DT live now ;D
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Where will DT be in 50 years?
On tour. Jordan will be, what? 106? And he'll be playing faster.
I mean, Dave Brubeck and Chuck Berry are still alive.... both in their 90s and 80s respectively.
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50 years from now, Images and Words will be 70 years old. Sad as it may be, most people now don't pay any attention to music from 1942. And even music from 1962 doesn't seem to be as popular as it was 10 or so years ago. I like "oldies" from the 50s and early 60s a lot even though they were from long before I was born, but their popularity seems to be waning as people who grew up with them pass away.
Yeah, but now it's different. I mean, the Beatles were the popular music of its time, the mainstream, and they'll always be remembered. But these days, mainstream music comes and goes. How many people do you know that still listen to stuff like Blink 182, or that remember, "The Real Slim Shady". In a few years, Poker Face will be a minor foot note in popular music, whereas, the small cult followings like us, who have been listening to Dream Theater for years, and STILL finding new things in Images and Words, we're the ones who are going to keep this music and pass it along.
So you're saying that current mainstream stuff will be forgotten but niche stuff like DT will be remembered because its fans are more loyal? Sorry, but tons more people will remember Eminem than DT. Most people don't even know what prog rock is. I'm not saying DT will be completely forgotten or anything, but they're already relatively obscure. Prog fans do tend to be open to listening to music from all eras though, so that's one positive.
Lost Not Forgotten, for sure.
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I'd laugh so hard at the possibility of a bunch of old guys just sat in chairs, blasting Awake. That would be so damn good.
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Or better yet, a bunch of old guys sitting around listening to the middle section of ANTR.
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TDEN comes on and the entire sittingroom starts rocking out to that riff?
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Or a bunch of young hipsters in 2300 stating that Raw Dog was definitely Dream Theater at its best. :lol
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Damn those futipsters!
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In 50 years, DT will release their 25th record, entitled Another Dramatic Turn of Events
The subject matter will be pretty intense, dealing with the recent death of Mike Portnoy.
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followed by a strategically planned posthumous press release by portnoy
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Or better yet, a bunch of old guys singing along to the middle section of ANTR.
FTFY.
Don't know about 50 years, but many 70s prog acts are still getting new fans and judging by that I'd like to think that DT are still remembered after at least 30 or 40 years.
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Lost not forgotten...
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In 50 years, static will be the popular music, and DT will be the golden oldies and frowned upon for being boring grandpa music and not static brilliance.
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Under the grave. SADLY.
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Under the grave. SADLY.
Yes and unfortunately, The Rolling Stones will probably out live them too.
... Not that I want The Stones dead or anything. That's not what I meant at all.
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Where will DT be in 50 years?
On tour. Jordan will be, what? 106? And he'll be playing faster.
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Under the grave. SADLY.
I'm pretty sure that the context of the question mainly refers to their music.
But hey, that's a long time from now. Meanwhile, they'll live another day and climb a little higher.
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More like, Under A Glass Grave.
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More like, Under A Glass Grave.
Yeah, well, musicians like that, they deserve to be put in a glass case and eternally immortalized the way Lenin is.
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Meanwhile, they'll live another day and climb a little higher.
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bizarredevotedfan/Randomness/boredrim.gif)
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This is a good question that makes me think about another questions like how the music is gonna be in 50 years. ???
What is clear is that you can't compare nowadays with the past 50 years cause today there is information everywhere and in 50 years the net will be plenty of information from the past (do not forget that this "internet for everybody" we know is really new) . Now you can see just some information from musicians from the past if you see some old lost videos/pictures, etc, etc. In the future it will not be the same with DT cause there is tons and tons of information, interviews, pictures, statements, etc, etc
Regarding information it is not the same to start being a popular band nowadays (or 15/20 years ago) than 50 years ago. I suppose that the band will exist just for the future prog metal fans that will want to know from where these new metal bands they will listen, get their ideas or style.
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They will most certainly still be playing because once they write and begin playing the "third and last dance" it must last FOREVER !
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In 50 years, the band will be working on Metropolis Part 3, their swan song. "Well, we all lived into out 90s and 100s, why not write part 3?, we'll invite MP, DS, KM (who won't show up). Unfortunately, Charlie will be 125, he's too frail to move."
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Still a genre of One.
P.s...nanotech,neuron mapping and the release on human cloning.Dream Theater will always live. :hefdaddy
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Still a genre of One.
P.s...nanotech,neuron mapping and the release on human cloning.Dream Theater will always live. :hefdaddy
Well, they've been through quite a bit in their career and had built it from the ground up. Which is good, because if they'd started from the top and worked their way down, there would be no reason to live forever.
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My guess would be dead.
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My guess would be dead.
My exact thoughts when reading the title :lol
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Jordan will download himself into an iPad and live forever
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My guess would be dead.
My exact thoughts when reading the title :lol
Who do you think will live the longest?
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My guess would be dead.
My exact thoughts when reading the title :lol
Who do you think will live the longest?
John Myung. Long after the others are dead, Myung will be found in a temple on the top of a very very high mountain. One must climb up, arrive nearly dead before being granted a moment of his infinite wisdom.
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Dream Theater will never die. The band members might, but the spirit carries on.
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Think about it, they all have children... (well not sure about MM) they could form DT2: the spirit carries on! With max portnoy on drums!
But anyway I think it depends on line-up changes etc.. if JLB or JP left i don't think the spirit would carry on :-[ it also depends on people's chart preferences in the future and if they still listen to rubbish. As its been said DT has committed fans and we WILL show our kids! :laugh:
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After having seen Rock of Ages, I want to put together a musical with DT music. I definitely want to do something like that in some future, maybe decades from now, but someday.
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Jordan will download himself into an iPad and live forever
:lol :clap: :metal
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Well, they've been through quite a bit in their career and had built it from the ground up. Which is good, because if they'd started from the top and worked their way down, there would be no reason to live forever.
Is there any DT quote we can't use? Don't think so.
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Is there any DT quote we can't use? Don't think so.
Oh, believe me, I'm a walking quote machine. I can find a quote for any given situation. And I'm happy to see quite a few people on these forums who do the same. With our quotes we stand strong and unite!
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It's not that hard. You can keep the quotes coming on if you take the time. You can find all you need in your mind.
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It's not that hard. You can keep the quotes coming on if you take the time. You can find all you need in your mind.
INVENTORY!!!
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Nice catch. :hat
INVENTORY
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Thanks. It was just a matter of ANALYSIS!!!
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I guess that they'll be in the Afterlife.
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I guess that they'll be in the Afterlife.
But the important thing is that their music will carry beyond this life.
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I guess that they'll be in the Afterlife.
But the important thing is that their music will carry beyond this life.
Personally I hope their music will just wither away, lest it be a nightmare to remember. Having to suffer through it is merely a rite of passage. But as I reflect upon these hollow years of DT music I can't help but look forward to a change of seasons when we are finally free of the music that has scarred us forever. I simply look forward to the day that James LaBrie is merely the silent man he should have been.
The count of tuscany.
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Personally I hope their music will just wither away, lest it be a nightmare to remember. Having to suffer through it is merely a rite of passage. But as I reflect upon these hollow years of DT music I can't help but look forward to a change of seasons when we are finally free of the music that has scarred us forever. I simply look forward to the day that James LaBrie is merely the silent man he should have been.
The count of tuscany.
I can't believe you just said all that! How can you even sleep a wink at night!?
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Personally I hope their music will just wither away, lest it be a nightmare to remember. Having to suffer through it is merely a rite of passage. But as I reflect upon these hollow years of DT music I can't help but look forward to a change of seasons when we are finally free of the music that has scarred us forever. I simply look forward to the day that James LaBrie is merely the silent man he should have been.
The count of tuscany.
I can't believe you just said all that! How can you even sleep a wink at night!?
I usually just lay in bed and wait for sleep. However eventually my dreams pull me under and I'm surrounded by night.
Surrounded by niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Oh sorry, wrong band.
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The count of tuscany.
Now wait a minute man
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I usually just lay in bed and wait for sleep. However eventually my dreams pull me under and I'm surrounded by night.
Surrounded by niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Oh sorry, wrong band.
Open your eyes, Adami.
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I usually just lay in bed and wait for sleep. However eventually my dreams pull me under and I'm surrounded by night.
Surrounded by niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Oh sorry, wrong band.
Open your eyes, Adami.
Kind of hard when you keep trying to cover my eyes.
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Kind of hard when you keep trying to cover my eyes.
It's not that hard.
Wait, I think someone already said that... Huh, what an uncanny, strange deja-vu.
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You've come full circle.
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The story ends where it began.
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Isn't this where... we came in?
wait... wrong forum
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No, no. This is where we came in. Turn the key; walk through the gate.
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Okay, this is getting way off topic. Focus here, focus there.
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EVERYONE SURVIVED ROROROROROROOO!
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It's just never enough, is it?
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Well, everything IS never enough... :neverusethis:
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This has become so off topic, It's a fatal tragedy :P
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The problem is that we are so tightly caught in a web of lyrical references that there is little to no chance of us ever returning onto topic.
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I think we should take the time to sort it out and we can be back on topic another day...
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Where else can the topic go?
Where will the band be? Over.
Where will the members be? Dead.
Where will the music be? A little less popular (unless something drastically changes in the future) than it is now.
See? No lyrical references.
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Well, everything IS never enough... :neverusethis:
Everything is energy... wait, wrong band! :P
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Long after the others are dead, Myung will be found in a temple on the top of a very very high mountain. One must climb up, arrive nearly dead before being granted a moment of his infinite wisdom.
Can I sig this :rollin?
But to the topic, they won't be forgotten. Prog fans around the world still like them. I don't believe though, that they are making new music in 2062 :P.
In other words: Their music will not be just lines in the sand, which will be swept away with the tides of time. Or voices, which will fall on deaf ears with failed muted breath. They will continue swimming against the current, until the curtain falls. Though they will be misunderstood by many, their images and words will be cherished by many others, and they'll legacy won't disappear. Those who got to chance to see them live, will remember those best of times for the rest of their lives.
:vomitard:
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Long after the others are dead, Myung will be found in a temple on the top of a very very high mountain. One must climb up, arrive nearly dead before being granted a moment of his infinite wisdom.
Can I sig this :rollin?
Have at it. The image in my head of what I said was way cooler than how it came out in text.
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Long after the others are dead, Myung will be found in a temple on the top of a very very high mountain. One must climb up, arrive nearly dead before being granted a moment of his infinite wisdom.
Can I sig this :rollin?
Have at it. The image in my head of what I said was way cooler than how it came out in text.
Yay! I think it's pretty cool still.
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Long after the others are dead, Myung will be found in a temple on the top of a very very high mountain. One must climb up, arrive nearly dead before being granted a moment of his infinite wisdom.
Can I sig this :rollin?
Have at it. The image in my head of what I said was way cooler than how it came out in text.
Dude, the image in your head must have been pretty awesome.
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Have at it. The image in my head of what I said was way cooler than how it came out in text.
Was it like a scene from a memory?
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Have at it. The image in my head of what I said was way cooler than how it came out in text.
Was it like a scene from a memory?
No.
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Jordan will download himself into an iPad and live forever
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Latest from Wizdom music:
"WiztobeJR" a new app from our sister company Wizdom Creative. The app comes with Jordan Rudess in preset form. You now have the ability to experience being JR and all his talent in first person view. Just download the app for your smartphone or tablet and simply plug it into your personal USB 7.0 socket at the back of your head. (WiztobeJR don't support custom made head sockets only the standard "Iboned" socket)
Supported devices: Iphone 34-45, Ipad 21 and the latest fapple product: Ifap.
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Jordan will download himself into an iPad and live forever
-2067-
Latest from Wizdom music:
"WiztobeJR" a new app from our sister company Wizdom Creative. The app comes with Jordan Rudess in preset form. You now have the ability to experience being JR and all his talent in first person view. Just download the app for your smartphone or tablet and simply plug it into your personal USB 7.0 socket at the back of your head. (WiztobeJR don't support custom made head sockets only the standard "Iboned" socket)
Supported devices: Iphone 34-45, Ipad 21 and the latest fapple product: Ifap.
That was damn cool :rollin :rollin
I would love to see Dream Theater this popular in 50 years. I think it's up to all of us, at least a bit. I just can't wait to grow my child with Dream Theater classics, hoping he/she will enjoy them and watching Score or LSFNY or LALP together headbanging all around. Obviously, I would do the same thing with a lot of my fav bands. Sorry if I went too emo here ;D
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Jordan will download himself into an iPad and live forever
This joke was the best of times :lol
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Jordan will download himself into an iPad and live forever
-2067-
Latest from Wizdom music:
"WiztobeJR" a new app from our sister company Wizdom Creative. The app comes with Jordan Rudess in preset form. You now have the ability to experience being JR and all his talent in first person view. Just download the app for your smartphone or tablet and simply plug it into your personal USB 7.0 socket at the back of your head. (WiztobeJR don't support custom made head sockets only the standard "Iboned" socket)
Supported devices: Iphone 34-45, Ipad 21 and the latest fapple product:Ifap.
:rollin
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Where will DT be 50 years?
:justjen
Beyond This Life
:neverusethis:
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Lost Not Forgotten
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Learning to live in the afterlife beyond this life...
Don't know if that makes any sense, but this the life :tup
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If I were Kevin Moore, I'd wait till the press release stating that DT are retiring is issued then release one right at the same time saying that I'm willing to get together for a reunion gig.
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At least I'd remember them, I'll be 75 by then. Well, that is if I live that long, which I can't really see happening. I have a dark and negative mind lol, and that's usually not a good recipe to live long. If I ever get kids and grandkids those will certainly know DT, but I doubt it will get to that.
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All these jokes are Bad Larries.
did i do right