Haken v. new single Nightingale (April 26)

[devieira73]

I finally spoke with Richard Henshall last saturday, and the interview was published today. Check it out!!!

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/interviews/interview-with-richard-henshall/?fbclid=IwAR3pnOiRsusZomn-HOZ-3BYDVJ_j3M70rvhJWgDWP7NkKszfzMFZuDfTH48

Cool, Rodrigo! It will be a written version of it?

[me7]

Great interview.

If you're a Haken fan and don't have time to listen to it, Hen mentions that they are working on a new album and intend to release it in early 2020.

[KevShmev]

If you're a Haken fan and don't have time to listen to it, Hen mentions that they are working on a new album and intend to release it in early 2020.

Nice! The sooner, the better. 

[RodrigoAltaf]

I finally spoke with Richard Henshall last saturday, and the interview was published today. Check it out!!!

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/interviews/interview-with-richard-henshall/?fbclid=IwAR3pnOiRsusZomn-HOZ-3BYDVJ_j3M70rvhJWgDWP7NkKszfzMFZuDfTH48

Cool, Rodrigo! It will be a written version of it?

No, only the audio.

[gzarruk]

If you're a Haken fan and don't have time to listen to it, Hen mentions that they are working on a new album and intend to release it in early 2020.

Nice! The sooner, the better. 

Who knows, if it’s as short as Vector, we might even have it by the end of the year

[devieira73]

Great interview.

If you're a Haken fan and don't have time to listen to it, Hen mentions that they are working on a new album and intend to release it in early 2020.

Thanks for the information!
He gave any hint about the musical direction?

[RoeDent]

I wonder if the shortness of Vector has partially sped up the process of working on HK6. When you've previously dealt exclusively in 60-70-minute albums and you suddenly release one that's only 45, there must be material left over that can be worked on and developed for a future album.

[Ben_Jamin]

I wonder if the shortness of Vector has partially sped up the process of working on HK6. When you've previously dealt exclusively in 60-70-minute albums and you suddenly release one that's only 45, there must be material left over that can be worked on and developed for a future album.

Im sure there are. Songs that were written but in the end didn't fit the vibe/mood/etc of the album.

[MinistroRaven]

I wonder if the shortness of Vector has partially sped up the process of working on HK6. When you've previously dealt exclusively in 60-70-minute albums and you suddenly release one that's only 45, there must be material left over that can be worked on and developed for a future album.

Im sure there are. Songs that were written but in the end didn't fit the vibe/mood/etc of the album.

When I interviewed Diego, I asked him about this (sadly, I did it after the interview was done, and was off the record), but he said that due to the tour of Shattered Fortress and that their release cycly was broken (due to SF) it took them longer to put the album out, and they almost did it in a rush, they wanted the album out quickly and that's why it is shorter than others albums. In fact, he said that they almost put it out as an EP with only 3 to 4 songs but the label pushed them to make an album not an EP

[ariich]

I wonder if the shortness of Vector has partially sped up the process of working on HK6. When you've previously dealt exclusively in 60-70-minute albums and you suddenly release one that's only 45, there must be material left over that can be worked on and developed for a future album.

Im sure there are. Songs that were written but in the end didn't fit the vibe/mood/etc of the album.

When I interviewed Diego, I asked him about this (sadly, I did it after the interview was done, and was off the record), but he said that due to the tour of Shattered Fortress and that their release cycly was broken (due to SF) it took them longer to put the album out, and they almost did it in a rush, they wanted the album out quickly and that's why it is shorter than others albums. In fact, he said that they almost put it out as an EP with only 3 to 4 songs but the label pushed them to make an album not an EP

That's along the lines of my understanding too. As far as I'm aware, there isn't any substantive leftover material (almost certainly discararded ideas, etc, but no full tracks or anything).

[gzarruk]

I wonder if the shortness of Vector has partially sped up the process of working on HK6. When you've previously dealt exclusively in 60-70-minute albums and you suddenly release one that's only 45, there must be material left over that can be worked on and developed for a future album.

Im sure there are. Songs that were written but in the end didn't fit the vibe/mood/etc of the album.

When I interviewed Diego, I asked him about this (sadly, I did it after the interview was done, and was off the record), but he said that due to the tour of Shattered Fortress and that their release cycly was broken (due to SF) it took them longer to put the album out, and they almost did it in a rush, they wanted the album out quickly and that's why it is shorter than others albums. In fact, he said that they almost put it out as an EP with only 3 to 4 songs but the label pushed them to make an album not an EP

So we can blame Portnoy?

[MinistroRaven]

I wonder if the shortness of Vector has partially sped up the process of working on HK6. When you've previously dealt exclusively in 60-70-minute albums and you suddenly release one that's only 45, there must be material left over that can be worked on and developed for a future album.

Im sure there are. Songs that were written but in the end didn't fit the vibe/mood/etc of the album.

When I interviewed Diego, I asked him about this (sadly, I did it after the interview was done, and was off the record), but he said that due to the tour of Shattered Fortress and that their release cycly was broken (due to SF) it took them longer to put the album out, and they almost did it in a rush, they wanted the album out quickly and that's why it is shorter than others albums. In fact, he said that they almost put it out as an EP with only 3 to 4 songs but the label pushed them to make an album not an EP

So we can blame Portnoy?

LOL I think we can.

J/K

[KevShmev]

Makes me wonder why they didn't just say no to the Shattered Fortress thing.  I guess maybe they figured it would give them a little more exposure.

[MinistroRaven]

Yes. And probably they just didn’t want to say no to MP as I think they are close to him

[KevShmev]

Given that I have read rumblings that Portnoy really puts pressure on those he has done favors for to be there when he needs a favor in the future, almost like they owe him, I think it's a good possibility that they felt like they couldn't say no. 

[Nick]

Given that I have read rumblings that Portnoy really puts pressure on those he has done favors for to be there when he needs a favor in the future, almost like they owe him, I think it's a good possibility that they felt like they couldn't say no. 

That may or may not be, but why would they want to say no? It's time playing music they probably all had a blast playing, all while upping their exposure to many fans who otherwise may not have known them, and all while getting paid probably more than whatever they make touring in Haken. It's a win-win-win. Sure, it delayed some Haken things, but that tour will do more for Haken's future than anything they would have done with Haken during that same time.

[ariich]

To my knowledge including from conversations with some of the band, the Shattered Fortress thing was something they genuinely wanted to do for both the experience and the exposure. I've never heard any of them suggest there was any kind of obligation to Mike, or anything like that.

[RodrigoAltaf]

Given that I have read rumblings that Portnoy really puts pressure on those he has done favors for to be there when he needs a favor in the future, almost like they owe him, I think it's a good possibility that they felt like they couldn't say no. 

That may or may not be, but why would they want to say no? It's time playing music they probably all had a blast playing, all while upping their exposure to many fans who otherwise may not have known them, and all while getting paid probably more than whatever they make touring in Haken. It's a win-win-win. Sure, it delayed some Haken things, but that tour will do more for Haken's future than anything they would have done with Haken during that same time.

THIS.

[cramx3]

I've got to imagine that anyone who saw that show and wasn't into Haken at least got some appreciation from them for their amazing performance of DT songs.  I'd imagine that was good exposure for them and it wasn't that much of a bump of the Haken schedule to fit it in that it would hurt the band.

[JayOctavarium]

Mike Portnoy coming to you and asking you to tour with him playing DT material would be like some small bay area metal band being approached by Hetfield and being asked to tour with him playing Metallica tracks.

How does one say no?

[me7]

Mike Portnoy coming to you and asking you to tour with him playing DT material would be like some small bay area metal band being approached by Hetfield and being asked to tour with him playing Metallica tracks.

How does one say no?

Well said.

Also, can't wait to hear the Hen album. My preorder is underway but I'm on vacation right now. I hope it will be available on Spotify.

[CrimsonSunrise]

Was messing around cooking this morning and just had music going and on comes the whole of Aquarius, Instrumental version.  I pretty much never listen to the all instrumentals and this was the first time listening to this.  I must say, it's pretty damn good and can definitely stand on it's own!!!

[JayOctavarium]

Was messing around cooking this morning and just had music going and on comes the whole of Aquarius, Instrumental version.  I pretty much never listen to the all instrumentals and this was the first time listening to this.  I must say, it's pretty damn good and can definitely stand on it's own!!!

The instrumental mix of that album is one of my go to "chillax and go to sleep" albums. Very soothing

[CrimsonSunrise]

Anyone have any US tour info?  I see these dates listed in the link below.  When I look on Ticketmaster it takes me to a Devin Townsend gig.  Are they supporting him?  In small venues??  I sure hope not....

https://www.hakenmusic.com/tour

[Buddyhunter1]

Anyone have any US tour info?  I see these dates listed in the link below.  When I look on Ticketmaster it takes me to a Devin Townsend gig.  Are they supporting him?  In small venues??  I sure hope not....

https://www.hakenmusic.com/tour

That is correct.

[cramx3]

So pumped for this tour, I'll be going to brooklyn and debating about doing the road trip to Boston as well.  Diego is playing in Devin's band as well.

[CrimsonSunrise]

Man, this show has some big strikes for me.  I HATE General admission, but I'd put up with it for a small venue if they were the headliners.  But if they're only gonna play for less than 1.5 hours I don't know if I want to deal with the GA AND downtown Los Angeles   Totally bummed that this isn't a headlining tour.  I missed last US leg because I had just discovered the band and  there were no tix to the LA show available

[gmillerdrake]

I'll most likely take the kiddos to the Nashville show. All three of my boys REALLY got into Haken literally a month or so after they came through St. Louis on the Vector tour. They've been asking ever since when they'd get to see them. My brother in law lives there so we could knock out a visit and see a show.

[KevShmev]

I'll most likely take the kiddos to the Nashville show. All three of my boys REALLY got into Haken literally a month or so after they came through St. Louis on the Vector tour. They've been asking ever since when they'd get to see them. My brother in law lives there so we could knock out a visit and see a show.

Make sure you and the kiddos are all wearing Blues Stanley Cup gear.

[gmillerdrake]

I'll most likely take the kiddos to the Nashville show. All three of my boys REALLY got into Haken literally a month or so after they came through St. Louis on the Vector tour. They've been asking ever since when they'd get to see them. My brother in law lives there so we could knock out a visit and see a show.

Make sure you and the kiddos are all wearing Blues Stanley Cup gear.

I text him a championship photo at least once a week. Just to say 'hi'   

[KevShmev]

I'll most likely take the kiddos to the Nashville show. All three of my boys REALLY got into Haken literally a month or so after they came through St. Louis on the Vector tour. They've been asking ever since when they'd get to see them. My brother in law lives there so we could knock out a visit and see a show.

Make sure you and the kiddos are all wearing Blues Stanley Cup gear.

I text him a championship photo at least once a week. Just to say 'hi'   

 

[mike099]

I'll most likely take the kiddos to the Nashville show. All three of my boys REALLY got into Haken literally a month or so after they came through St. Louis on the Vector tour. They've been asking ever since when they'd get to see them. My brother in law lives there so we could knock out a visit and see a show.

Make sure you and the kiddos are all wearing Blues Stanley Cup gear.

They will be in the Cannery Ballroom.  I saw Steven Wilson there earlier this year. The venue is a step up from the Exit Inn, where I saw Haken, Leporus and Bent Knee earlier this year.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

From Richard Henshalls solo album:

Matt Lynch - Richard Henshall - Twisted Shadows - Drum Playthrough

I absolutely love Matts playing so tasty, dynamic and creative.

[Northern Lion]

Just as a side note (I haven't read the whole thread), even though Vector was short, I thought it was a very good album.  Also, the news that they might put out a new record next year is really good news!

Haken have become one of my favorite bands and my second favorite progressive band next to DT.

[KevShmev]

Just as a side note (I haven't read the whole thread), even though Vector was short, I thought it was a very good album.  Also, the news that they might put out a new record next year is really good news!

Haken have become one of my favorite bands and my second favorite progressive band next to DT.

A new album soon would be great.  It feels like they lost a little bit of their forward momentum with Vector, which I thought was good but not great, and a new kick ass album would go a long way into getting that trajectory going the right away again, IMO.