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Title: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: tuto on August 15, 2012, 06:46:44 PM
I realized they havent played this masterpiece since the 2004 Train Of Thought Tour. And I think it would sound awesome with Mangini on drums, dont you think?
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: Unlegit on August 15, 2012, 07:15:57 PM
I don't think anyone knows for sure, but if they did pull that out it would be amazing!
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: Adami on August 15, 2012, 07:16:09 PM
MM would play it exactly like Portnoy, not sure how he would make it sound awesome or at least any more awesome than Portnoy. I assume it would sound essentially the same.


Will they play it? I dunno. Maybe in a few years. But for right now they seem content with Ytse Jam as the only instrumental.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: ResultsMayVary on August 15, 2012, 07:19:47 PM
Honestly, who knows?
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: Adami on August 15, 2012, 07:21:20 PM
Honestly, who knows?

I do. But I won't tell for free.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: GasparXR on August 15, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
Honestly, who knows?

I do. But I won't tell for free.

:eyebrows:
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: tuto on August 15, 2012, 08:32:43 PM
Honestly, who knows?

I do. But I won't tell for free.

Hahah, how much $?
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: Adami on August 15, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
Honestly, who knows?

I do. But I won't tell for free.

Hahah, how much $?

No money. I only take payment in the form of DT playing SoC live. So, as soon as they do it, I will tell you exactly when they will play it.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: tuto on August 15, 2012, 10:59:44 PM
Honestly, who knows?

I do. But I won't tell for free.

Hahah, how much $?

No money. I only take payment in the form of DT playing SoC live. So, as soon as they do it, I will tell you exactly when they will play it.

Seems fair enough
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 15, 2012, 11:55:08 PM
If they do, it will never be soon enough
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2012, 08:57:17 PM
IMO, they have a lot of other instrumentals that could be played over SOC.  maybe an edited version of part of another instrumedely would be cool though.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: Adami on August 17, 2012, 09:11:09 PM
Ytse Jam.
Erotomania.
Hell's Kitchen.
Overture 1928.
The Dance of Eternity.
Raw Dog.


I wouldn't say that's a lot, but it's enough I guess. I would love for them to play Erotomania or Overture 1928. Although it will suffer from the same thing I'm not allowed to complain about anymore.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: ResultsMayVary on August 17, 2012, 09:24:15 PM
I'd love to see them pull out Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu on the next tour. That would be really cool.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2012, 09:27:57 PM
Ytse Jam.
Erotomania.
Hell's Kitchen.
Overture 1928.
The Dance of Eternity.
Raw Dog.


I wouldn't say that's a lot, but it's enough I guess. I would love for them to play Erotomania or Overture 1928. Although it will suffer from the same thing I'm not allowed to complain about anymore.

Don't forget Eve, which I know they will never play.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 19, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
Who can say?
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 19, 2012, 03:51:48 PM
I'd love to see them pull out Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu on the next tour. That would be really cool.

So cool.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: Rattlehead on September 03, 2012, 07:43:56 AM
I'd love to see them pull out Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu on the next tour. That would be really cool.

So cool.

Agreed... it's exciting to anticipate a brand new set list for the next tour  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: Ultimetalhead on September 03, 2012, 09:31:12 AM
I'd love to see them pull out Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu on the next tour. That would be really cool.

So cool.

Agreed... it's exciting to anticipate a brand new set list for the next tour  :biggrin:
Assuming it's all new. I think the only "new" song we got on the US tour that wasn't played on the European tour was LNF. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: Scorpion on September 03, 2012, 10:54:37 AM
I'd love to see them pull out Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu on the next tour. That would be really cool.

So cool.

Agreed... it's exciting to anticipate a brand new set list for the next tour  :biggrin:
Assuming it's all new. I think the only "new" song we got on the US tour that wasn't played on the European tour was LNF. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think TITL was new as well.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: Rattlehead on September 03, 2012, 01:22:56 PM
I'd love to see them pull out Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu on the next tour. That would be really cool.

So cool.

Agreed... it's exciting to anticipate a brand new set list for the next tour  :biggrin:
Assuming it's all new. I think the only "new" song we got on the US tour that wasn't played on the European tour was LNF. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Poor choice of wording on my part... I just meant a different setlist, hopefully very different than the ADToE tour (just for the sake of seeing a lot of different songs live since I've only seen DT once).
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: GasparXR on September 03, 2012, 02:45:31 PM
Does anyone else foresee any ADTOE songs becoming a concert staple, or at least having a song representing it on the next tour? Breaking All Illusions could become a staple as an encore or a pre-encore closer, although This is the Life could become a staple in the vein of The Spirit Carries On, since they have similar vibes.
Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 03, 2012, 03:11:23 PM
Does anyone else foresee any ADTOE songs becoming a concert staple, or at least having a song representing it on the next tour? Breaking All Illusions could become a staple as an encore or a pre-encore closer, although This is the Life could become a staple in the vein of The Spirit Carries On, since they have similar vibes.

This deserves a thread now.

Title: Re: Will DT ever play again Stream Of Consciousness?
Post by: ResultsMayVary on September 03, 2012, 03:47:48 PM
Does anyone else foresee any ADTOE songs becoming a concert staple, or at least having a song representing it on the next tour? Breaking All Illusions could become a staple as an encore or a pre-encore closer, although This is the Life could become a staple in the vein of The Spirit Carries On, since they have similar vibes.

This deserves a thread now.
It has been done. Check the DT part of the forum.  :)
Title: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Lolzeez on September 09, 2012, 02:07:59 PM
Imho it's a great song with some potential. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Scorpion on September 09, 2012, 02:12:08 PM
Imho it's a great song with some potential. What do you guys think?

Sure. I love it, it's one of my favourites from SC. Though I have to say that I highly doubt that it will happen.

Still, a guy can dream, can't he?
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Adami on September 09, 2012, 02:15:24 PM
I love the song, but it doesn't need to be played live. It seems much more suited for a CD than it does a live setting.

Plus Flying Colors is playing it, so DT playing it now would just be confusing at best and confrontational at worst.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: wasteland on September 09, 2012, 02:30:55 PM
Plus Flying Colors is playing it, so DT playing it now would just be confusing at best and confrontational at worst.

Is that a serious statement or I fail to see some sarcasm?
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Adami on September 09, 2012, 02:35:10 PM
Plus Flying Colors is playing it, so DT playing it now would just be confusing at best and confrontational at worst.

Is that a serious statement or I fail to see some sarcasm?

It is serious, of course not from every point of view does my statement work. However considering all the emotional back and forths, the song's subject etc, it makes sense.

However it's not my main reason for saying No. My main reason was the part you deleted.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 09, 2012, 04:01:10 PM
I am perfectly happy to never hear it played live. There are much better DT songs I'd rather have fill up a set list.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Unlegit on September 09, 2012, 04:05:33 PM
I am perfectly happy to never hear it played live. There are much better DT songs I'd rather have fill up a set list.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: TAC on September 09, 2012, 04:07:54 PM


Plus Flying Colors is playing it, 
Are they really?
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Metro on September 09, 2012, 04:26:08 PM
I love the song, but I feel like it would drag a bit live..
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: ? on September 10, 2012, 03:21:30 AM
The first half would be ok but I would fall asleep during the boring second half and I don't know how they would handle the spoken word parts - samples or nothing? Besides, if Scarred and The Great Debate don't get much of a reaction from the audience, I'm 100% sure Repentance wouldn't either.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Eldomm on September 10, 2012, 06:02:40 AM
I am perfectly happy to never hear it played live. There are much better DT songs I'd rather have fill up a set list.

This.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: GasparXR on September 10, 2012, 06:09:55 AM
I would love to hear it live. It's one of my favourite DT songs by far.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: IdoSC on September 10, 2012, 04:10:28 PM
Maybe in an acoustic setting where the band would feel comfortable about cutting it short by like 50%. Other than that, honestly, it's too damn long and tedious, and those ~10 minutes are better spent with a song that doesn't scream Opeth influences.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Ħ on September 10, 2012, 04:18:18 PM
They should when they play the 12SS for the MP reunion show (which should happen). Other than that, no.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: cramx3 on September 11, 2012, 04:19:52 PM
I hope they don't so I can be one of the few to ever see it live... but also its not a great live song with thr long drawn out ending.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Orbert on September 11, 2012, 04:29:47 PM
Plus Flying Colors is playing it, 
Are they really?

Yes.  On the current tour, they're playing mostly the album, but also one song from each guy or band he was/is in.  "Repentence" is the DT song they're doing.

Not only that, but it's pretty much "Mike's song" as are all the songs in the AA saga.  That's not to say that DT will never or can never play them, but between the fact that it's a very personal song for Mike, and he's singing it with Flying Colors (yes, he sings it) it just doesn't make sense for DT to do the song.  There are plenty of other songs to choose from.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Nick on September 11, 2012, 08:32:42 PM
Plus Flying Colors is playing it, 
Are they really?
That's not to say that DT will never or can never play them,

I think this point is pretty obvious now that they've been playing The Root of All Evil regularly.
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: Orbert on September 12, 2012, 12:19:40 PM
But that wasn't actually the point.  My point was that the entire AA saga is pretty much Mike's thing, but "Repentence" seems particularly personal because of its tone.  So even though DT plays "The Root of All Evil" it just seems to me that "Repentence" is much less likely to come up when it's time to make up the setlist.

It's kinduv like "Space-Dye Vest".  Songs generally get played because either (a) one or more members really like them or otherwise have a strong connection to them or (b) audiences really want to hear them and/or they're proven crowd-pleasers.  "Space-Dye Vest" is a DT song, but because it was very much Kevin's song, why would they want to play it?  It's not like it's a super rocker that gets the crowd going or lots of fans have been crying that they never play it.  (Or maybe they have, I don't know.)
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 04, 2012, 03:55:59 AM
Orbert makes good points, but I'd still like to see it live, Flying Colors or DT, whichever. 
Title: Re: Do you think that they should/will play Repentance again?
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on October 04, 2012, 08:37:46 PM
I hope they don't. I imagine the tune being a borefest live.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: mike099 on December 30, 2012, 08:23:26 PM
If I ever get to see DT live, I would love to hear The Shattered Fortress :metal.  Also, would like to here The Glass Prison.  Not sure they would play either of these two. 

Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: Ħ on December 30, 2012, 10:35:08 PM
If I ever get to see DT live, I would love to hear The Shattered Fortress :metal.  Also, would like to here The Glass Prison.  Not sure they would play either of these two. 


Definitely agree with The Glass Prison. Also A Change Of Seasons.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: wasteland on December 31, 2012, 12:53:29 AM
They lifted the taboo on the AA songs playing TROAE, so TGP is not entirely out of the realm of possibilities. I wouldn't hold my breath for TSF, though. And ACOS needs to return with the evening with shows, yes.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: mike099 on December 31, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
Thanks for the replies guys.  Wasteland, Curious why you think they may play TGP over TSF.  Like both songs, but TSF gets my motor running.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2012, 09:40:29 AM
Well, TGP had been such a great live song since it came out. I actually expect it on the next tour.
I'd be shocked if they played TSF. It's such a mishmash which doesn't seem to make a lot of sense unless it is taken in the context of the 12 Step Suite.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 31, 2012, 09:49:36 AM
Well, TGP had been such a great live song since it came out. I actually expect it on the next tour.
I'd be shocked if they played TSF. It's such a mishmash which doesn't seem to make a lot of sense unless it is taken in the context of the 12 Step Suite.

I agree. I don't see TSF being played unless they play the 12SS in full. I don't think TSF holds up too well on its own, and TGP is a much more popular song among the fanbase.
I'm kind of expecting TGP next tour too. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking. But a man can dream, right?
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: wasteland on December 31, 2012, 10:10:34 AM
I am half expecting TGP to show up too myself, but of course the feelings that this happening would stir are very different than yours :D

However, I was thinking that maybe they could be tempted to play TSF as a sort of "synthesis" of the whole suite. With a reworked intro it could even actually work, I think.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 31, 2012, 10:14:40 AM
I don't know, I just don't see it being a popular enough song for DT to decide to play it, especially being a bit longer song. I would almost bet that they'll never play TSF unless it's part of the 12SS (or in the lead up to playing it).
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: ? on December 31, 2012, 10:34:15 AM
I don't think DT would want to premiere The Shattered Fortress without MP, and originally it was supposed to be played as part of the full suite anyway. I could see The Glass Prison making a comeback, though - MM seems to play the songs pretty close to their original tempos so the arpeggios could be less impossible for JP to play if they didn't speed it up.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 09, 2013, 10:40:05 AM
 Now that the "Evening With" format is back, it´s time to play Octavarium in full again. I´m sure it will come back to the set eventually.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: Ħ on September 09, 2013, 11:25:29 AM
It's time to play freakin A Change of Seasons for once. It's regarded as their best song pretty much, yet they refuse to play it nowadays for some reason.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 09, 2013, 11:32:35 AM
It's time to play freakin A Change of Seasons for once. It's regarded as their best song pretty much, yet they refuse to play it nowadays for some reason.

The alledged conection with MP may be one reason. But I agree, they should bring back ACOS ASAP!!!! The current lineup would kill on that one.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: Shadow2222 on September 09, 2013, 01:39:22 PM
Songs that should come back on the next tour (not necessarily all of them, but any of them would be fine with me) are TGP, 8VM, ACOS, ITNOG, and the other lengthy, "epic" tracks.

I thought I never had a hope of seeing ACOS or 8VM, but I hope either one comes back for this tour. I'm simply afraid that neither will show up due to Illumination Theory likely being played.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: ? on September 09, 2013, 01:56:14 PM
I read an interview with JP and James in a Finnish music mag and JP said Illumination Theory will be in the setlist, but they'll also take advantage of the "evening with" format by playing some "longer and more challenging" songs that weren't heard on the previous tours.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 09, 2013, 02:02:58 PM
I'd kill to see ACOS played in full.I saw the FII tour, so I only caught the "split" version of it - similar to what's on Once in a Livetime.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: wasteland on September 09, 2013, 02:19:07 PM
Now that I think of it, ACOS has never been played in the southern emisphere (in its entirety). You people will definitely get it on the SA leg. It's unacceptable and I'm sure the band will make it happen should they be pointed this out.  :tup
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 09, 2013, 02:42:56 PM
Now that I think of it, ACOS has never been played in the southern emisphere (in its entirety). You people will definitely get it on the SA leg. It's unacceptable and I'm sure the band will make it happen should they be pointed this out.  :tup

Great argument! How do I get this message across to them?
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: wasteland on September 09, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
Ah, I don't know! Not at all! But if you come up with a way to let the message filter through, I suggest you do so quickly, before the great tour plan is set in motion. Having to incorporate a big song in the set is not something you can't ask a band on the eve of the tour, there must be preparation and thinking.
Title: Re: Will Dream Theater ever play (X song) again?
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on September 09, 2013, 03:11:15 PM
I' have a meet and greet in Spain...maybe then I can talk to them about the SA tour -which jasn't even been booked yet,but I know it wil come, given the great response they get here every time they come.
Title: Do you think they should/ will play take away my pain again
Post by: Fronobulax on September 27, 2013, 08:13:19 AM
I know this probably an unpopular opinion but i think its a really great song. Especially the demo version without all the keyboard overdubs on the album version. I think if they did a section of the show playing stripped down versions of songs like they did last tour this song would fit really well in that kind of arrangement. Although im highly doubtful theyd ever play it again.