Haken v. new single Nightingale (April 26)

[Fritzinger]

Guys, bad news

Dearest Haken friends, family and fans,
Unfortunately, due to ongoing logistical challenges, our new album ‘Virus’ will now be released on July 10th. We’d like to thank everyone behind the scenes at Inside Out and the various distribution channels who are working as hard as possible to navigate the challenging times in which we find ourselves. We know this news will be as disappointing to you as it is to us, but we want you to know that we really, really appreciate your patience - so a big THANK YOU goes to you for sticking with us while we get through this.
All the best,
Haken

[ariich]

[NoseofNicko]

 

[Crow]

c'mon guys this is the virus we want, rather than the one we've currently got

[The Letter M]

As long as we get it, I don't mind, but it's still sad news. At least I won't be starved for new music since Frost*, Nick D'Virgilio, Kansas, and McStine & Minnemann will all have new music out before July 10th, so I'll be kept busy with those until Virus comes out.

-Marc.

[gzarruk]

As long as we get it, I don't mind, but it's still sad news. At least I won't be starved for new music since Frost*, Nick D'Virgilio, Kansas, and McStine & Minnemann will all have new music out before July 10th, so I'll be kept busy with those until Virus comes out.

-Marc.

Really excited about the Frost* and NDV releases!

[Evermind]

I get it, but it still sucks

c'mon guys this is the virus we want, rather than the one we've currently got

Yeeep

[me7]

They could release it digitally as planned, postpone physical shipments and send download coupons to people who preordered physical copies.

I assume Haken are among the bigger bands at Inside Out and their releases generate a sizable amount of cash. But maybe I'm wrong about that or the label has an abundance of cashflow at the moment.

[ariich]

As far as I know, it's not as simple as just releasing the digital album.

[IDontNotDoThings]

They could release it digitally as planned, postpone physical shipments and send download coupons to people who preordered physical copies.

I assume Haken are among the bigger bands at Inside Out and their releases generate a sizable amount of cash. But maybe I'm wrong about that or the label has an abundance of cashflow at the moment.

I've heard rumours that it's actually a mixing issue that's caused the delay, not a shipping one.

Idk how trustworthy this is, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

[KevShmev]

Wouldn't the entire album be mixed around the same time?  The three songs which have all been released are all still available to buy digitally at iTunes.  It seems odds that the rest of the album would still be needing a proper mix.  But what do I know?

[gzarruk]

Wouldn't the entire album be mixed around the same time?  The three songs which have all been released are all still available to buy digitally at iTunes.  It seems odds that the rest of the album would still be needing a proper mix.  But what do I know?

Sometimes bands have the singles mixed first to meet the promotional campaign schedule but the rest of the songs will still need to be mixed, but I wouldn't think this is the case, as some people have already got promotional copies to review (and MP to tell us how amazing it is). But, quoting Kev, what do I know?

[ariich]

I'm not aware of any mixing issue and I'm pretty certain Kev is right that the whole album was mixed and mastered together. No idea where that rumour came from!

[Zydar]

Do we know about any other album release being postponed due to the Corona pandemic or is it just Haken and Steven Wilson? I'm sure other artists are going through the same thing with their upcoming releases.

[IDontNotDoThings]

Do we know about any other album release being postponed due to the Corona pandemic or is it just Haken and Steven Wilson? I'm sure other artists are going through the same thing with their upcoming releases.

If it's a shipping issue, then I guess Haken underestimated how long it'd take. Maybe that's not the case with other artists whose albums haven't been delayed. But then again, I'd imagine that that'd be decided by the record label & not the band itself, so if other InsideOut albums are getting their albums out on time, then who knows? Perhaps that's why people are suspicious that it may not be a shipping issue, but either way, there's not much we can do except wait another 5 weeks (& hope that it doesn't get delayed again ).

[Train of Naught]

I personally had 3 instances of postponed releases this year at the record label I work at. But out of those, none of the release dates were already announced.

The most common reason to postpone releases right now is because there can't be any tours to support the release, that's absolutely massive. I totally support the band's / label's decision to do so in most cases.

There was actually one band we strongly adviced to postpone since their release date was 29 May, but they really wanted to stick with it. That's admirable, and one could also argue that right now there will be more spotlights on new releases because everyone is going to be releasing right after the restrictions are lifted.

[gzarruk]

I personally had 3 instances of postponed releases this year at the record label I work at. But out of those, none of the release dates were already announced.

The most common reason to postpone releases right now is because there can't be any tours to support the release, that's absolutely massive. I totally support the band's / label's decision to do so in most cases.

There was actually one band we strongly adviced to postpone since their release date was 29 May, but they really wanted to stick with it. That's admirable, and one could also argue that right now there will be more spotlights on new releases because everyone is going to be releasing right after the restrictions are lifted.

Great insight into how these things work!

[Dedalus]

Do we know about any other album release being postponed due to the Corona pandemic or is it just Haken and Steven Wilson? I'm sure other artists are going through the same thing with their upcoming releases.

Deep Purple

[Bentower]

The new Carcass album was also pushed back.

[the_silent_man]

Also Lamb of God

[Fritzinger]

Wouldn't the entire album be mixed around the same time?  The three songs which have all been released are all still available to buy digitally at iTunes.  It seems odds that the rest of the album would still be needing a proper mix.  But what do I know?

Sometimes bands have the singles mixed first to meet the promotional campaign schedule but the rest of the songs will still need to be mixed, but I wouldn't think this is the case, as some people have already got promotional copies to review (and MP to tell us how amazing it is). But, quoting Kev, what do I know?

Yeah, the promo copy sounds "mixed" to me. No differences whatsoever between the singles and the other songs...

[nobloodyname]

Now delayed until 10 July.

How on earth did I miss someone posting that right at the top of the page?

[Nel]

Everything I'm waiting for keeps getting delayed. 

[Mladen]

As long as they're not delaying it until 2021 like Steven Wilson did, it's really not that bad. 

[Evermind]

As long as they're not delaying it until 2021 like Steven Wilson did

Yet

[Buddyhunter1]

Good thing we got the new Tool album last year or it would have just never came out.

[Dublagent66]

Damn, I totally spaced the 6/5 release date.  Guess it doesn't matter now.  Working from home for the last 3 months, I easily lose track of the days. 

[cramx3]

Damn, I totally spaced the 6/5 release date.  Guess it doesn't matter now.  Working from home for the last 3 months, I easily lose track of the days. 

Yea, time just seems so odd these days that this push back really doesn't seem like a big deal to me.  7/10 will be here soon enough and I probably won't even realize until the day of when everyone here is talking about the album    Plus it's not like there's a tour happening and now you won't get to listen to the album before you see the songs live. 

[GasparXR]

I'm hoping they'll do a thing where they stream the album once before it comes out to give us a chance to listen to it early. What do you think the probability of that is?

[RoeDent]

I didn't know they did stuff like that anymore. That's more of a 2013 thing.

[Train of Naught]

Exclusive album premieres are not a myth still very much a thing for as long as online music magazines / blogs continue to exist

[Fritzinger]

Last time I heard about something like this was before the release of DT12... So I guess it's really a '13 thang

[Mladen]

Deerhoof did that for their new album two months ago. Oddly enough, it was a Facebook stream, yet the album didn't leak for weeks after that.

[Train of Naught]

Last time I heard about something like this was before the release of DT12... So I guess it's really a '13 thang

Exclusive album premieres are not a myth still very much a thing for as long as online music magazines / blogs continue to exist

[Nachtmerrie]

Another delay: 24th of july.

Let's hope there will be some touring now things are opening up a little bit more here in Europe.
Concerts are allowed again in my country, no limited number of visitors as long as the 1,5 meter distance is garanteed.
It still sucks but we might be back in a concert hall soon.