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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2485 on: December 10, 2013, 11:16:41 AM »
Only one piece on the first half tastes any good IMO, the rest all have rather bizarre toppings.

Now, WDADU is an okay pizza but some guy named Charlie spat all over it and a sound engineer threw it down a tunnel.
One piece has an undercooked middle but the last few bites are especially tasty. One piece has too much cheese on it and it makes it taste a bit less good. One piece is pretty good but the crust has really hot pepper sprinkled all over it. One piece starts off tasting delicious but it gets boring the more of it you eat. One piece was cut wrong and is smaller than the rest but is the only piece you enjoy every bite of.

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« Reply #2486 on: December 10, 2013, 11:36:48 AM »
Not sure if this is controversial, but Vacant is one of the best DT ballads...possibly the best.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2487 on: December 10, 2013, 11:41:11 AM »
I agree with you.

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« Reply #2488 on: December 10, 2013, 11:53:32 AM »
Not sure if this is controversial, but Vacant is one of the best DT ballads...possibly the best.

Good one... I started liking it even more when James revealed the subject matter. It gives me this haunting chill when I listen to the words now.

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« Reply #2489 on: December 10, 2013, 12:56:55 PM »
Not sure if this is controversial, but Vacant is one of the best DT ballads...possibly the best.

It's amazing, and probably the most heartfelt performance from James. I really love it.

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« Reply #2490 on: December 11, 2013, 12:50:41 AM »
Not sure if this is controversial, but Vacant is one of the best DT ballads...possibly the best.

Yeah, Vacant is awesome! 
And with Stream Of Consciousness it makes the best "2-song run"  by Dream Theater... That might actually be controversial :p
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2491 on: December 11, 2013, 02:15:50 AM »
Not sure if this is controversial, but Vacant is one of the best DT ballads...possibly the best.

Good one... I started liking it even more when James revealed the subject matter. It gives me this haunting chill when I listen to the words now.

What is the subject matter? I also like the song, but I have no clue what it's about

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2492 on: December 11, 2013, 02:35:00 AM »

What is the subject matter? I also like the song, but I have no clue what it's about

It's about his daughter and how she unexpectedly lapsed into a coma. She turned out okay, obviously, but I imagine when he wrote it, it was a very dark time for him.
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« Reply #2493 on: December 11, 2013, 09:01:28 AM »
My major nitpick with DT comes in Wait for Sleep. It's in the part when James says "She has too much pride to pull the sheets above her head, so quietly she lays and waits for Slee-". The Sleep word seems like it was cut out in mid air. In the live versions James extends the Sleep word, so I can't understand why did they cut it in mid air. It's a petty complaint and I feel really nitpicky, but it somehow bothers me. Not like it ruins the song or anything though.

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« Reply #2494 on: December 12, 2013, 07:15:18 AM »
Not sure if this is controversial, but Vacant is one of the best DT ballads...possibly the best.

Yeah, Vacant is awesome! 
And with Stream Of Consciousness it makes the best "2-song run"  by Dream Theater... That might actually be controversial :p

Interesting choice. Hell's Kitchen and Lines in the Sand for me.

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« Reply #2495 on: December 12, 2013, 08:27:55 AM »
My major nitpick with DT comes in Wait for Sleep. It's in the part when James says "She has too much pride to pull the sheets above her head, so quietly she lays and waits for Slee-". The Sleep word seems like it was cut out in mid air. In the live versions James extends the Sleep word, so I can't understand why did they cut it in mid air. It's a petty complaint and I feel really nitpicky, but it somehow bothers me. Not like it ruins the song or anything though.

Damn you. Now I notice it everytime ._.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2496 on: December 12, 2013, 11:18:01 AM »
Last 4 Dream Theater albums are the best of them all! Yep,I said that,no way DT could have done songs like ITPOE,TCOT,ANTR,TMOLS,BITS,BAI,IT,TBP (i can count so much more but you got me) in their I&W era and i think those songs are their best!

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2497 on: December 12, 2013, 01:26:00 PM »
My major nitpick with DT comes in Wait for Sleep. It's in the part when James says "She has too much pride to pull the sheets above her head, so quietly she lays and waits for Slee-". The Sleep word seems like it was cut out in mid air. In the live versions James extends the Sleep word, so I can't understand why did they cut it in mid air. It's a petty complaint and I feel really nitpicky, but it somehow bothers me. Not like it ruins the song or anything though.

That's it? That's your major nitpick with DT? That they kinda cut off a word in one song that you still like?   :lol 

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2498 on: December 12, 2013, 02:35:11 PM »
My major nitpick with DT comes in Wait for Sleep. It's in the part when James says "She has too much pride to pull the sheets above her head, so quietly she lays and waits for Slee-". The Sleep word seems like it was cut out in mid air. In the live versions James extends the Sleep word, so I can't understand why did they cut it in mid air. It's a petty complaint and I feel really nitpicky, but it somehow bothers me. Not like it ruins the song or anything though.

Damn you. Now I notice it everytime ._.

Nah.  James completes the word, he just says it very quickly so it sounds like it's cut off, but it's not.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2499 on: December 12, 2013, 04:30:18 PM »
Here we go:

Train Of Thought Is easily the worst album Dream Theater ever did.

When Dream And Day Unite is top 5.

There is not a single bad song on Falling Into Infinity.

The Dark Eternal Night is beyond terrible, it's like Dream Theater trying to be some god awful nu metal band like Korn or Slipknot.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2500 on: December 12, 2013, 04:36:22 PM »
The Dark Eternal Night is beyond terrible, it's like Dream Theater trying to be some god awful nu metal band like Korn or Slipknot.

But it sounds nothing like either one of those two bands.  ???
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2501 on: December 12, 2013, 05:48:27 PM »
Here we go:

Train Of Thought Is easily the worst album Dream Theater ever did.

When Dream And Day Unite is top 5.

There is not a single bad song on Falling Into Infinity.

The Dark Eternal Night is beyond terrible, it's like Dream Theater trying to be some god awful nu metal band like Korn or Slipknot.

I agree with none of these. 

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2502 on: December 12, 2013, 05:54:43 PM »
Here we go:

Train Of Thought Is easily the worst album Dream Theater ever did.

Only one I completely agree with... almost. WDaDU is the only thing stopping it from being bottom of the bottom though.

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« Reply #2503 on: December 12, 2013, 06:04:17 PM »
Here's an opinon not so much about Dream Theater, but of their fans.

If you listen to Dream Theater and can not apprciate both prog and metal you are an idiot.

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« Reply #2504 on: December 12, 2013, 06:24:53 PM »
Here's an opinon not so much about Dream Theater, but of their fans.

If you listen to Dream Theater and can not apprciate both prog and metal you are an idiot.

While I wouldn't go as fat as to call anyone an idiot, those who can't appreciate both sides of Dream Theater are really only experiencing one side of the coin, and only appreciate half the greatness that this band really is. Which is unfortunate, because they really should look at the bigger picture.
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« Reply #2505 on: December 12, 2013, 06:35:20 PM »
Here's an opinon not so much about Dream Theater, but of their fans.

If you listen to Dream Theater and can not apprciate both prog and metal you are an idiot.

While I wouldn't go as fat as to call anyone an idiot, those who can't appreciate both sides of Dream Theater are really only experiencing one side of the coin, and only appreciate half the greatness that this band really is. Which is unfortunate, because they really should look at the bigger picture.

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« Reply #2506 on: December 12, 2013, 06:49:12 PM »
My major nitpick with DT comes in Wait for Sleep. It's in the part when James says "She has too much pride to pull the sheets above her head, so quietly she lays and waits for Slee-". The Sleep word seems like it was cut out in mid air. In the live versions James extends the Sleep word, so I can't understand why did they cut it in mid air. It's a petty complaint and I feel really nitpicky, but it somehow bothers me. Not like it ruins the song or anything though.

That's it? That's your major nitpick with DT? That they kinda cut off a word in one song that you still like?   :lol
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #2507 on: December 12, 2013, 06:56:31 PM »
Here we go:

Train Of Thought Is easily the worst album Dream Theater ever did.

When Dream And Day Unite is top 5.

There is not a single bad song on Falling Into Infinity.

The Dark Eternal Night is beyond terrible, it's like Dream Theater trying to be some god awful nu metal band like Korn or Slipknot.
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« Reply #2508 on: December 12, 2013, 07:13:39 PM »
The Dark Eternal Night is beyond terrible, it's like Dream Theater trying to be some god awful nu metal band like Korn or Slipknot.

But it sounds nothing like either one of those two bands.  ???

That main riff is total stop start stop nu metal. Obviously Petrucci plays better than any of those bands, so maybe a better sound alike is Sepultura's nu metal era. Think "Roots Bloody Roots", total garbage.
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« Reply #2509 on: December 12, 2013, 07:27:46 PM »
That main riff is total stop start stop nu metal. Obviously Petrucci plays better than any of those bands, so maybe a better sound alike is Sepultura's nu metal era. Think "Roots Bloody Roots", total garbage.

Well, that's just the riff. Everything else about the song, the instrumental breakdown, the mystical lyrics, the sludgy outro doesn't remind me of Nu Metal at all. Either way, TDEN is an awesome song.
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« Reply #2510 on: December 12, 2013, 08:35:51 PM »
The Dark Eternal Night is beyond terrible, it's like Dream Theater trying to be some god awful nu metal band like Korn or Slipknot.

But it sounds nothing like either one of those two bands.  ???

That main riff is total stop start stop nu metal. Obviously Petrucci plays better than any of those bands, so maybe a better sound alike is Sepultura's nu metal era. Think "Roots Bloody Roots", total garbage.

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« Reply #2511 on: December 12, 2013, 08:38:15 PM »
That main riff is total stop start stop nu metal. Obviously Petrucci plays better than any of those bands, so maybe a better sound alike is Sepultura's nu metal era. Think "Roots Bloody Roots", total garbage.

Well, that's just the riff. Everything else about the song, the instrumental breakdown, the mystical lyrics, the sludgy outro doesn't remind me of Nu Metal at all. Either way, TDEN is an awesome song.
While I don't like TDEN and think the riff is sludgy and too much ass-and-ballsy I think it's miles more complex and elaborated than the ones found in bands like Korn or Slipknot, IMHO.

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« Reply #2512 on: December 12, 2013, 09:13:07 PM »
That main riff is total stop start stop nu metal. Obviously Petrucci plays better than any of those bands, so maybe a better sound alike is Sepultura's nu metal era. Think "Roots Bloody Roots", total garbage.

Well, that's just the riff. Everything else about the song, the instrumental breakdown, the mystical lyrics, the sludgy outro doesn't remind me of Nu Metal at all. Either way, TDEN is an awesome song.
While I don't like TDEN and think the riff is sludgy and too much ass-and-ballsy I think it's miles more complex and elaborated than the ones found in bands like Korn or Slipknot, IMHO.

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« Reply #2513 on: December 12, 2013, 09:40:46 PM »
I guess I need to listen to more nu metal. Apparently I'm missing out on some good music. :neverusethis:

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« Reply #2514 on: December 12, 2013, 09:43:56 PM »
Though most prog fans disagree, I think a fair amount of nu-metal is quite good.

Particularly Linkin Park.

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« Reply #2515 on: December 12, 2013, 09:49:18 PM »
Here we go:

The Dark Eternal Night is beyond terrible, it's like Dream Theater trying to be some god awful nu metal band like Korn or Slipknot.

I agree but Slipknot is not that bad.  :lol
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« Reply #2516 on: December 12, 2013, 09:56:30 PM »
I agree but Slipknot is not that bad.  :lol

Honestly, while I'm not a fan of Slipknot, I wouldn't even throw them into the Nu Metal category. I mean, Nu Metal used a lot of influences brought from Rap and Hip-Hop, and Slipknot is definitely not that.
And speaking of which, if you want to blame DT of Nu Metal influences, maybe The Glass Prison and that record scratching transition should be looked at before anything else.
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« Reply #2517 on: December 13, 2013, 02:06:40 AM »
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« Reply #2518 on: December 14, 2013, 09:06:11 AM »
I agree but Slipknot is not that bad.  :lol

And speaking of which, if you want to blame DT of Nu Metal influences, maybe The Glass Prison and that record scratching transition should be looked at before anything else.

Yeah, the record scratch, which is awesome.

I really don't think TDEN sounds like Nu Metal at all. It's really modern-sounding technical metal for sure. Stuff on Awake like Lie and Caught in a Web is closer to Nu Metal than that, and even those are clearly prog-influenced, and more 90s-sounding.

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« Reply #2519 on: December 14, 2013, 09:17:35 AM »
Though most prog fans disagree, I think a fair amount of nu-metal is quite good.

Particularly Linkin Park.
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