Hacked? Ehh.. I don't know about thaaat, but regardless that's some ugly Twitter posting.
Also, sorry, I didn't notice the "A rumor" thread :(
9 tracks!
If it's true, which songs are JMs? I'm guessing The Shama's Trance and Beneath The Surfaces.
9 tracks!
Yes, not at good as 12, but MUCH better than 6.
I think he's been hacked.I hope he's been hacked.
I never post in this subforum, but I was just dropping by to say that the new title is fucking god awful. Ew.
Also, "The Shaman’s Trance"
you've got to be kidding me
:rollinI never post in this subforum, but I was just dropping by to say that the new title is fucking god awful. Ew.
Also, "The Shaman’s Trance"
you've got to be kidding me
The Count of Tuscany, your argument is invalid
I actually don't mind "The Shaman's Trance". The second song has a crappy name IMO :(
I like the album title, though I hope I'm not the only one.
Anyone else think "Lost Not Forgotten" is about Mike?
I think he's been hacked.I hope he's been hacked.
I think he's been hacked.I hope he's been hacked.
Just seems a little fish-like that there would be a post about a rumour from a foreign website then a disgustingly formatted tweet. I hope its a hack because its the dumbest name.
Pretty odd title, but I refuse to judge albums based on titles.
Also, someone earlier mentioned that because there's 9 tracks instead of 12, the "full circle" theory is gone, but you guys are forgetting that while SFAM had 12 tracks, it had 9 scenes.
WHAT NOW?!
Pretty odd title, but I refuse to judge albums based on titles.
Also, someone earlier mentioned that because there's 9 tracks instead of 12, the "full circle" theory is gone, but you guys are forgetting that while SFAM had 12 tracks, it had 9 scenes.
WHAT NOW?!
I think he's been hacked.I hope he's been hacked.
Just seems a little fish-like that there would be a post about a rumour from a foreign website then a disgustingly formatted tweet. I hope its a hack because its the dumbest name.
names dont bother me. DT NEWS IS DT NEWS YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
refer to my dealwithit JP on page 1 to cure your butthurt
Not buying this.
(probably wasn't going to anyway)
The "Deal with it" picture was old within the first few seconds of seeing it. Please stop posting it because it's just kinda rude.
Very excited. There are objectively many many stupid song titles when taken out of context. Under a Glass Moon? sounds SO dumb but we all know it's a fantastic fantastic song. Queen released "A Night at the Opera" Out of context, that is weird and strange sounding.
So before we jump to conclusions, let's just remember we have no context.
All that being said, I'm super excited for this. My only complaint is that the album title is a bit of a mouthful. But that's me being picky.
Can't wait!!
Not buying this.
(probably wasn't going to anyway)
Under a Glass Moon? sounds SO dumb but we all know it's a fantastic fantastic song. Queen released "A Night at the Opera" Out of context, that is weird and strange sounding.
Not buying this.
(probably wasn't going to anyway)
I really don't see that as a great attitude. I mean there are amazing albums I think have bad titles and vice versa, can't judge a book by its cover etc.
So uh, guys, do you think the shows will be labeled "A Dramatic Tour of Events"?
So uh, guys, do you think the shows will be labeled "A Dramatic Tour of Events"?
No, "This is the Tour"
It's literal, that's why
So Aniland, according to the bet you made, The Shaman's Trance will be the most lauded song on the album
Actually, I kind of think you maybe close. Sounds like it may be an instrumentalSo Aniland, according to the bet you made, The Shaman's Trance will be the most lauded song on the album
Fuck.
So Aniland, according to the bet you made, The Shaman's Trance will be the most lauded song on the album
Fuck.
Lost Not Forgotten is actually about Tarja.
The Count of Tuscany was fucking AMAZING, I don't see why people would be upset about The Shaman's Trance.
Complaining about titles is ridiculous. Through Her Eyes? Fatal Tragedy? Any song off of that album? Learning to Live? Are any of you really that surprised?
Learning to Live?
Learning to Live?
I guess I'm in some minority of people who like song titles that everyone else hates.
I think album title and track titles are great. They seem more "honest" rather than trying hard not to be cliche or out-of-the-blue whilst being epic/original etc. I'm stoked.
What if its a concept album about the last 9 months in the band's lives? :o
(plus the rest of the post)
I for one am excited about this album now and the tracks sound really cool! The first track kind of sounds like Neil Peart wrote it. I don't know why, but I feel like the album will be lighter musically. And now it's obvious that MP will be brought up on this album
I for one am excited about this album now and the tracks sound really cool! The first track kind of sounds like Neil Peart wrote it. I don't know why, but I feel like the album will be lighter musically. And now it's obvious that MP will be brought up on this album
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let's let the disappointment roll
(https://i.imgur.com/0sLtj.png)
let's let the disappointment roll
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let's let the disappointment roll
Just in case, I'd like everyone to know that is NOT the actual album cover.
(https://i.imgur.com/0sLtj.png)
let's let the disappointment roll
Just in case, I'd like everyone to know that is NOT the actual album cover.
(https://i.imgur.com/0sLtj.png)
let's let the disappointment roll
Just in case, I'd like everyone to know that is NOT the actual album cover.
yeah it is, that's portnoy falling from the tree
it's symbolic
"On The Backs of Angels" sounds awesome. "The Shaman's Trance" reminds me a lot of Liquid Tension Experiment (I think It'll be an instrumental), and I can't think of "Build Me Up, Break Me Down" without thinking of Megadeth's "A Secret Place" (For no particular reason).
This should be great. Also I don't see the reason of the titles hate, they sound a lot more inspired than what we got on BC&SL.
Also, I'm calling it; The Shaman's Trance will be an instrumental.
Yes, but to be fair, I didn't read your post.
Also, I'm calling it; The Shaman's Trance will be an instrumental.
I was the first to call it, broski.
SO.... Did anybody at the Aniland's fake Album/Tracklist thread actually got at least one title right?
On another note, if you count scenes instead of tracks on SFAM, this continues the whole symmetrical track numbers thing counting outward from Octavarium.
Then DT16 pulls a Guided By Voices and has 26 tracks. Yep.
(https://i.imgur.com/0sLtj.png)
let's let the disappointment roll
I really like how the song titles sound, it's refreshing and dare I say "creative" when compared to the last 3 albums.I think that's why I like them so much
Why don't people like the title?
*snip*
let's let the disappointment roll
Just in case, I'd like everyone to know that is NOT the actual album cover.
yeah it is, that's portnoy falling from the tree
it's symbolic
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/LemonyDT.jpg)
That is so awesome, I was laughing for 5 minutes, literally!! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/LemonyDT.jpg)
:hefdaddy
That is so awesome, I was laughing for 5 minutes, literally!! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy*pic*
:hefdaddy
Anyway, now I'm very excited about new album!! Album title has JP vibe don't you think so? Titles are good, maybe Build Me Up Break Me Down has no DT vibe at all, but it could be great song anyway. The last two seems be epic, also The Shaman's Trance and Outcry. I'm ok with Shaman's to be instrumental. God I'm so excited!!! I hope we will get cover tomorrow!!!!
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/LemonyDT.jpg)
I'm calling it now: the album art will have a man in a library, lit by candles.Wow, that woud be awesome... :tup
"Stay tuned on DT.net tomorrow morning"
Build Me Up Break Me Down will be the new Status Seeker.
Build Me Up Break Me Down will be the new Status Seeker.
Explain please.
"Oh Mike we're missing you so much,
why did you ever leave?
We'll never, never ever forget you,
all those good times we played together,
oh Mike,
oh Mike,
our Mike..."
The Title: A Dramatic Turn of Events - I actually love it. There was no way to remove this album from the events surrounding it. So rather than get over poetic and lyrical or up their own asses they just went for something simple, to the point, and a little whimsical. They couldn't have made "Shit Happens" the title, but this gives me the same feeling.
1. On the Backs of Angels - Oh my god is that a song title. This better be a great song or it's a huge waste of a name.
2. Build Me Up, Break Me Down / 3. Lost Not Forgotten - These are fine. Could be melodrama, or they could be just cool songs. I still feel positive.
4. This is the Life - I feel some exuberance here. Or maybe it will be ironic. Very nice.
5. The Shaman’s Trance - I don't know exactly why but I really want to hear a song with this name. Bring it on.
6. Outcry / 7. Far From Heaven - Maybe they aren't the most unique phrases/ideas ever, but these are titles of song's I'd like to hear DT's take on.
8. Breaking All Illusions - This just seems like it could be cool.
9. Beneath The Surface - Like six and seven, a DT track specifically with this title appeals to me.
Overall - Like a couple other people have posted, I really enjoy how... different this feels. Between 8vm, SC, BCSL, and now ADTOE (w00t with the abbreviation), this might be the most excited I've been about a tracklisting.
Yeah, the album title is a bit corny, not very creative... but hey it's just a title. The music will be awesome, as always.
My prediction is that Thomas Ewerhard is gonna do the artwork... and i'm sure he will do a great job at it , love his work.
Maybe I'll give it a shot at it very soon... ;)
Steve
Maybe I'll give it a shot at it very soon... ;)
Steve
Maybe I'll give it a shot at it very soon... ;)
Steve
DO IT
Yeah, the album title is a bit corny, not very creative... but hey it's just a title. The music will be awesome, as always.
My prediction is that Thomas Ewerhard is gonna do the artwork... and i'm sure he will do a great job at it , love his work.
Maybe I'll give it a shot at it very soon... ;)
Steve
What makes you think that Steve? ;) :)
I looked at Thomas Ewerhard's list of artwork. :omg:Ewerhard made LaBrie, Dominici, Spock's Beard, Eden's Curse... Dream Theater is the missing one only here ;)
He has done some incredible pieces of artwork. Just go to his website and take a look at it. :metal
I looked at Thomas Ewerhard's list of artwork. :omg:Ewerhard made LaBrie, Dominici, Spock's Beard, Eden's Curse... Dream Theater is the missing one only here ;)
He has done some incredible pieces of artwork. Just go to his website and take a look at it. :metal
edit: :omg: what a t-shirts!!! definitly the best I've ever seen!!!
Why don't people like the title?
1. It's a cliche. To me, album titles should have at least some semblance of originality. Whereas this title is a phrase which has appeared in a billion oldschool mystery novels. I wouldn't mind if they included it as a line in a song somewhere, but to title the whole album that? It's just weak to me.
2. I was personally hoping DT11 wouldn't be drenched in MP references, and it seems to me that the title indicates it will be. The idea that they coincidentally came up with this title without thinking of the drummer switch is too big a coincidence for me to swallow.
3. It seems to scream, 'Hey, look at us, we're moving in a new direction!" If they are moving in a new direction, good for them, but... like, I also wouldn't like an album called 'Really Good Stuff.' Sure, I'd like an album to contain really good stuff, but I don't want the title to scream so obviously about it.
It probably doesn't help that cool titles like Geometry of the Void were being discussed on DTF, either. I had high expectations.
And for the record, I don't have any problems with the song titles themselves. Except track 2.
Whenever I think of 'This Is The Life', it reminds me of the Foo Fighters song 'Ain't It The Life' (if you haven't heard it, Youtube it). And this is a good thing.
For what it's worth, "Geometry of the Void" is an awful, awful title.Why don't people like the title?
1. It's a cliche. To me, album titles should have at least some semblance of originality. Whereas this title is a phrase which has appeared in a billion oldschool mystery novels. I wouldn't mind if they included it as a line in a song somewhere, but to title the whole album that? It's just weak to me.
2. I was personally hoping DT11 wouldn't be drenched in MP references, and it seems to me that the title indicates it will be. The idea that they coincidentally came up with this title without thinking of the drummer switch is too big a coincidence for me to swallow.
3. It seems to scream, 'Hey, look at us, we're moving in a new direction!" If they are moving in a new direction, good for them, but... like, I also wouldn't like an album called 'Really Good Stuff.' Sure, I'd like an album to contain really good stuff, but I don't want the title to scream so obviously about it.
It probably doesn't help that cool titles like Geometry of the Void were being discussed on DTF, either. I had high expectations.
And for the record, I don't have any problems with the song titles themselves. Except track 2.
I really don't mind any of that, DT can name their albums whatever they want, and sing about whatever they want. If they feel the need to sing about MP there's nothing wrong with that, since they were in the middle of it and actually have feelings to express. Fans are just, as always, worrying about whether it's fair or in good taste, which is completely inconsequential, because drama is what makes things interesting.
There was no way to remove this album from the events surrounding it.I don't know. What about just ignoring the whole MP situation? Maybe it was emotionally difficult, but nobody's forcing them to include any references in the album.
For what it's worth, "Geometry of the Void" is an awful, awful title.Why don't people like the title?
1. It's a cliche. To me, album titles should have at least some semblance of originality. Whereas this title is a phrase which has appeared in a billion oldschool mystery novels. I wouldn't mind if they included it as a line in a song somewhere, but to title the whole album that? It's just weak to me.
2. I was personally hoping DT11 wouldn't be drenched in MP references, and it seems to me that the title indicates it will be. The idea that they coincidentally came up with this title without thinking of the drummer switch is too big a coincidence for me to swallow.
3. It seems to scream, 'Hey, look at us, we're moving in a new direction!" If they are moving in a new direction, good for them, but... like, I also wouldn't like an album called 'Really Good Stuff.' Sure, I'd like an album to contain really good stuff, but I don't want the title to scream so obviously about it.
It probably doesn't help that cool titles like Geometry of the Void were being discussed on DTF, either. I had high expectations.
And for the record, I don't have any problems with the song titles themselves. Except track 2.
I really don't mind any of that, DT can name their albums whatever they want, and sing about whatever they want. If they feel the need to sing about MP there's nothing wrong with that, since they were in the middle of it and actually have feelings to express. Fans are just, as always, worrying about whether it's fair or in good taste, which is completely inconsequential, because drama is what makes things interesting.
No offence to anyone who came up with it, but seriously - completely meaningless, it's just a list of "cool" words. It sounds like a twelve year old writing sci-fi. Or an Italian power metal band trying to write a song in the style of Dream Theater. They've never used titles like that - Octavarium's the closest, and that was taken from a classical text.
Helix of the Universe. Vibrant Trigonometry. Palpitations of a Human Heart. Anyone can come up with jargon and call it a title.
(New York, NY): The recent announcement that Mike Mangini would be joining Dream Theater, replacing departed drummer Mike Portnoy caused such fanfare that Mangini was a trending topic on Twitter, second only to England's Royal Wedding. Now, the band is revealing more information about their upcoming album. The new album is titled A Dramatic Turn of Events. The much-anticipated platter, which marks Mangini's recorded debut, will be released via Roadrunner Records on September 13th and will be supported by a massive world tour.
"I'm incredibly psyched with the way this album came out and can't wait to share it with everybody," guitarist John Petrucci, who also serves as the producer for A Dramatic Turn of Events, said. "We are currently in the mix stage with the great Andy Wallace and it's all sounding amazing!"
"We have poured our hearts and minds into the creation of this album," keyboardist Jordan Rudess offered. "All the life changing events that surrounded us before, as well as during the whole process, fueled our desire to dig deep within ourselves and create the best music we possibly could."
Vocalist James LaBrie said, "In the grand scheme of Dream Theater's career, the last several months have been such an incredibly positive, fulfilling and rewarding experience. The new songs and sound has never been so spirited or rejuvenating. I cannot wait for every one of our fans to sink their audio senses into this batch of tunes."
I don't want to read too much into it, but all the press releases, including the one below make me think that we might see some kind of departure from their recent style.How poetic ;)Quote
Vocalist James LaBrie said, "In the grand scheme of Dream Theater's career, the last several months have been such an incredibly positive, fulfilling and rewarding experience. The new songs and sound has never been so spirited or rejuvenating. I cannot wait for every one of our fans to sink their audio senses into this batch of tunes."
Also, get ready on the acronyms. ADToE! Feat. OTBoA, BMUBMD (what a title!), LNF, TitL (its title is TitL! Brilliant), TST, Outcry, FFH, BAI, BTS. Where's that fella with the fantasy novel?
Ohhhh, the awakening of ReapwebStER comes closer and closer.
I also argue that it is VERY original for Dream Theater.
I don't want to read too much into it, but all the press releases, including the one below make me think that we might see some kind of departure from their recent style.Interesting. What are the things that call your attention that could bring new things to the album? (besides the obvious MP departure). To me, it sounds exactly like what every band in the world says about their upcoming album.Quote(New York, NY): The recent announcement that Mike Mangini would be joining Dream Theater, replacing departed drummer Mike Portnoy caused such fanfare that Mangini was a trending topic on Twitter, second only to England's Royal Wedding. Now, the band is revealing more information about their upcoming album. The new album is titled A Dramatic Turn of Events. The much-anticipated platter, which marks Mangini's recorded debut, will be released via Roadrunner Records on September 13th and will be supported by a massive world tour.
"I'm incredibly psyched with the way this album came out and can't wait to share it with everybody," guitarist John Petrucci, who also serves as the producer for A Dramatic Turn of Events, said. "We are currently in the mix stage with the great Andy Wallace and it's all sounding amazing!"
"We have poured our hearts and minds into the creation of this album," keyboardist Jordan Rudess offered. "All the life changing events that surrounded us before, as well as during the whole process, fueled our desire to dig deep within ourselves and create the best music we possibly could."
Vocalist James LaBrie said, "In the grand scheme of Dream Theater's career, the last several months have been such an incredibly positive, fulfilling and rewarding experience. The new songs and sound has never been so spirited or rejuvenating. I cannot wait for every one of our fans to sink their audio senses into this batch of tunes."
I don't care much for the album title but frankly I don't really care in general. I just want the music itself to be good. Cannot wait for tomorrow.
I don't care much for the album title but frankly I don't really care in general. I just want the music itself to be good. Cannot wait for tomorrow.
What's gonna happen tomorrow?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT-S2VawDDUhahaaha :rollin
CANT WAIT FOR THE STAGE PROPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT-S2VawDDUSiema Maciek ;) widzimy się w Katowicach rozumiem :P for those who don't understand, "Howdy Matthew! We'll see in Katowice right :P ? " :metal sorry for OT ;)
CANT WAIT FOR THE STAGE PROPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT-S2VawDDUSiema Maciek ;) widzimy się w Katowicach rozumiem :P for those who don't understand, "Howdy Matthew! We'll see in Katowice right :P ? " :metal
CANT WAIT FOR THE STAGE PROPS
:tup 99% brzmi dobrze :2metal:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT-S2VawDDUSiema Maciek ;) widzimy się w Katowicach rozumiem :P for those who don't understand, "Howdy Matthew! We'll see in Katowice right :P ? " :metal
CANT WAIT FOR THE STAGE PROPS
Na 99% będę :)
SC - 9 songs
Whenever I think of 'This Is The Life', it reminds me of the Foo Fighters song 'Ain't It The Life' (if you haven't heard it, Youtube it). And this is a good thing.Actually, I think about 'This Is Your Life' which is a great The Killers song.
A little earlier it said on the Wiki page that Shaman's Trance was instrumental, but it's gone now.It also said that tracks 7 and 8 were written by John Myung.
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'
Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.
The albmu title it's just "meh" for me, but the tracklist look really, really great!
Wow, when I first read about this title and track listing, I thought for sure it was fake. But now to have it confirmed by JP...eh, I don't know. It doesn't really matter to me since it's the music I care about, I'd listen to something I like regardless of its title or the name of the album it appeared on. This just seems to me to be milking the fact that Mike left more. Okay, he left, it was a big deal, but does the next album have to reference it? Especially when it has to be their most uninspired and uninteresting album title to date.
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'
Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.
What's "awful" about Erotomania?
Not exactly the kind of names I would expect. Looks like the guys (specially JP) were strongly influenced by the recent events, of course. But, even if they name the album "Boogie boogie Jamboree" or "Party at the beach", I would still be anxious about it.
What about a hidden track named "MP can suck it"?
Too much?
OK. Sorry.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Dream-Theater-Announce-New-AlbumRelease-Date-23046.aspx?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29&utm_campaign=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29
September 13th. I'll take it!
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Dream-Theater-Announce-New-AlbumRelease-Date-23046.aspx?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29&utm_campaign=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29
September 13th. I'll take it!
They should've made the release date 11/11/11. For teh nuggetz.
Oh man, what if "The Shaman's Trance" ends up being the one track Myung wrote? And what if it happens to suck? We're never going to want him to write again! :rollin :rollinHe never sucks
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Dream-Theater-Announce-New-AlbumRelease-Date-23046.aspx?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29&utm_campaign=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29
September 13th. I'll take it!
They should've made the release date 11/11/11. For teh nuggetz.
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'
Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.
What's "awful" about Erotomania?
Seriously?
Anybody heard or seen any comments from MP about this? I just checked his forum but nothing yet. Maybe he'll keep a low profile on this.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Dream-Theater-Announce-New-AlbumRelease-Date-23046.aspx?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29&utm_campaign=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29
September 13th. I'll take it!
They should've made the release date 11/11/11. For teh nuggetz.
Nooo, that would mean two more months to wait.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Dream-Theater-Announce-New-AlbumRelease-Date-23046.aspx?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29&utm_campaign=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29
September 13th. I'll take it!
They should've made the release date 11/11/11. For teh nuggetz.
Nooo, that would mean two more months to wait.
:facepalm:
I can't believe I'm gonna do this but:
9+13+11 does in fact equal 11+11+11
Anyway, I think the title is cool, track listing is cool...bring it on!!!
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'
Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.
What's "awful" about Erotomania?
Seriously?
Yes. I don't get where you're coming from at all on that one. It fits in perfectly with the AMBI concept.
Anybody heard or seen any comments from MP about this? I just checked his forum but nothing yet. Maybe he'll keep a low profile on this.
I mean...it's a suite about sexual repression in religion.
Initially, I agreed with Jaffa's post a couple pages back where he called the album title a cliche phrase. I'm also not a fan of unoriginal cliche phrases either. But I can let it slide since DT has used a cliche phrase as an album title almost all the time from "Black Clouds & Silver Linings" to "Train of Thought," etc.Excellent post Mebert
What bothers me the most about the title is that instead of focusing on their new beginning as band, the album title forces them to deal with the aura of Portnoy through the album release, tour, etc. It begs more Portnoy questions in every interview too. They should have took a more subtle approach with the title. I think it's a poor choice.
Not that, the rather obvious album title.
I mean...it's a suite about sexual repression in religion.
This. It fits perfectly with the theme of the AMBI.
I mean...it's a suite about sexual repression in religion.
This. It fits perfectly with the theme of the AMBI.
I could care less about the theme...it's still a horrible song name to me.
I mean...it's a suite about sexual repression in religion.
This. It fits perfectly with the theme of the AMBI.
I could care less about the theme...it's still a horrible song name to me.
So a song's name is more important than its theme or message? :|
I mean...it's a suite about sexual repression in religion.
This. It fits perfectly with the theme of the AMBI.
I could care less about the theme...it's still a horrible song name to me.
So a song's name is more important than its theme or message? :|
Where did I say that?
I mean...it's a suite about sexual repression in religion.
This. It fits perfectly with the theme of the AMBI.
I could care less about the theme...it's still a horrible song name to me.
So a song's name is more important than its theme or message? :|
Where did I say that?
You quoted the post you said it in. :P
No ten 1% to jakby się świat skończył :D
OK, sorry for the OT guys, we had to embrace the fact of being the only two Poles here ;)
I could care less about the theme in relation to the song title - which is what we are talking about here.
Two separate things dude.
They should've made the release date 11/11/11. For teh nuggetz.
Also, Shaman's Trance automatically makes me think of a damn fine psychedelic instrumental.
So far, I'm loving the titles, "On the Backs of Angels" sounds like something straight out of When Dream and Day Unite...:2metal: you living in UK?
Oh, and their new tour should be called....
The Shaman's Tour :neverusethis:No ten 1% to jakby się świat skończył :D
OK, sorry for the OT guys, we had to embrace the fact of being the only two Poles here ;)
Make that three of us ;)
Amorphis has a song called "Shaman".Also, Shaman's Trance automatically makes me think of a damn fine psychedelic instrumental.
Reminds me of PT's Idiot Prayer
I could care less about the theme in relation to the song title - which is what we are talking about here.
Two separate things dude.
what? the song title should reflect the theme...unless i'm on crack.
I didn't read through the entire thread, but people are actually making a big deal about the album name and/or the song titles :facepalm:Yeah but it's cool when You have someone to share your emotions with ;) and even it can be funny here ;)
all that matters is that the music is great, who really cares what they call it
THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS - A THEME OR SUBJECT CAN BE INTERESTING/COMPELLING/PROVOKING BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE SONG TITLE(S) ARE AUTOMATICALLY GOOD.
OH MY GOD SOME PEOPLE ON HERE JUST LIKE DISAGREE, NICK PICK OR TAKE EVERYTHING OUT OF CONTEXT.
"Touring On the Backs of Angels"
THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS - A THEME OR SUBJECT CAN BE INTERESTING/COMPELLING/PROVOKING BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE SONG TITLE(S) ARE AUTOMATICALLY GOOD.
OH MY GOD SOME PEOPLE ON HERE JUST LIKE DISAGREE, NICK PICK OR TAKE EVERYTHING OUT OF CONTEXT.
pot, kettle. no one said the title was automatically good. we said it fit the theme.
So far, I'm loving the titles, "On the Backs of Angels" sounds like something straight out of When Dream and Day Unite...:2metal: you living in UK?
Oh, and their new tour should be called....
The Shaman's Tour :neverusethis:No ten 1% to jakby się świat skończył :D
OK, sorry for the OT guys, we had to embrace the fact of being the only two Poles here ;)
Make that three of us ;)
1. On the Backs of Angels - Oh my god is that a song title. This better be a great song or it's a huge waste of a name.
Congratulations on taking a simple point that was written with positive intent and making mountains out of molehills.
So far, I'm loving the titles, "On the Backs of Angels" sounds like something straight out of When Dream and Day Unite...:2metal: you living in UK?
Oh, and their new tour should be called....
The Shaman's Tour :neverusethis:No ten 1% to jakby się świat skończył :D
OK, sorry for the OT guys, we had to embrace the fact of being the only two Poles here ;)
Make that three of us ;)
Yep but my parents are full Polish
FFS people, it's NIT Picking, not Nick Picking.
1. On the Backs of Angels - Oh my god is that a song title. This better be a great song or it's a huge waste of a name.
This.
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I'm going to be honest: I really think this is going to be a concept album. The song titles seem to suggest that the concept will be something spiritual. The obvious ones are On the Backs of Angels and Far from Heaven, but we also have references to life (This is the Life), death (Lost Not Forgotten), spiritualism (The Shaman's Trance), and perhaps even hell (Beneath the Surface). I fully expect people to disagree, but I'm just raising this as a possibility.
FFS people, it's NIT Picking, not Nick Picking.
FFS people, it's NIT Picking, not Nick Picking.True. No one would pick Nick.
1. On the Backs of Angels - Oh my god is that a song title. This better be a great song or it's a huge waste of a name.
This.
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I'm going to be honest: I really think this is going to be a concept album. The song titles seem to suggest that the concept will be something spiritual. The obvious ones are On the Backs of Angels and Far from Heaven, but we also have references to life (This is the Life), death (Lost Not Forgotten), spiritualism (The Shaman's Trance), and perhaps even hell (Beneath the Surface). I fully expect people to disagree, but I'm just raising this as a possibility.
Yeah, but we thought the same thing when Train of Thought's tracklisting was announced, and then again with Systematic Chaos. Both had a lot of spiritual/religious references in the titles, and I'm sure it's a similiar coincidence with ADTOE.
FFS people, it's NIT Picking, not Nick Picking.True. No one would pick Nick.
Several people have expressed the sentiment that we shouldn't really care what the titles are as long as the music is good.
But we don't actually know if the music is good. It could be great, or it could be their worst album to date.
Several people have expressed the sentiment that we shouldn't really care what the titles are as long as the music is good.
But we don't actually know if the music is good. It could be great, or it could be their worst album to date.
I don't think it's gonna be their worst album to date. I mean, they've said several times they have poured their hearts and souls in the making of this music. They took their time to craft something special, and I'm sure that's what it's gonna be.
Congratulations on taking a simple point that was written with positive intent and making mountains out of molehills.
i didn't make a mountain out of anything. you resorted to yelling and calling people that disagree with you "nick pickers."
moving on...
I can tell (A)DTOE and TDOE is going to cause some confusion on the forums ;D
YES, we are growing in strenght here so goddamn quick!!!! :2metal: :2metal: ktoś z Trójmiasta? :metal :cornSo far, I'm loving the titles, "On the Backs of Angels" sounds like something straight out of When Dream and Day Unite...:2metal: you living in UK?
Oh, and their new tour should be called....
The Shaman's Tour :neverusethis:No ten 1% to jakby się świat skończył :D
OK, sorry for the OT guys, we had to embrace the fact of being the only two Poles here ;)
Make that three of us ;)
Yep but my parents are full Polish
Tour name possibilities.You forgot about Forgotten Tour :lol
Tour Me Up, Tour Me Down World Tour
Breaking All Tours
Tour From Heaven
Tour The Surface
On The Tours of Angels
:neverusethis: :neverusethis: :neverusethis:
Tour name possibilities.A Dramatic Tour of...
Tour Me Up, Tour Me Down World Tour
Breaking All Tours
Tour From Heaven
Tour The Surface
On The Tours of Angels
:neverusethis: :neverusethis: :neverusethis:
Tour name possibilities.You forgot about Forgotten Tour :lol
Tour Me Up, Tour Me Down World Tour
Breaking All Tours
Tour From Heaven
Tour The Surface
On The Tours of Angels
:neverusethis: :neverusethis: :neverusethis:
Guys!
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How much you wanna bet that the album cover art is going to be the picture of Mike Portnoy waving from the Wither video.:lol
They should have took a more subtle approach with the title.This is exactly what I've been thinking about today. I don't mind the idea of an album title referring to the departure of Mike Portnoy, I just think it could have been executed a bit better. Maybe they should have just called the album Drama, plain and simple. Yeah, people would maybe think of it as a Yes reference, but that's still better than a direct reference to Mike Portnoy. :)
For me too... I almost shit in my pants Man :corn :corn :corn :cornGuys!
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What? It looks the same to me.
A Dramatic Tour of Evenings (with)
Guys!
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Guys!
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Guys!Holy shit, Mike Mangini is the new drummer!
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HOLY SHIT. NO WAY MAN. :metalGuys!Holy shit, Mike Mangini is the new drummer!
www.dreamtheater.net
Sure, I'll move on if you admit you mis-understood my point.
I'm sure it will be better than a Count's brother who liked to suck pipes. :)
Tracks 8 and 9 are gonna be connected for sure, Breaking All Illusions Beneath The Surface.
Hmm...I wonder if BAI is gonna be an interlude IE. Wait For Sleep.
So we're a few minutes from noon in the Eastern timezone, and no additional information on the site yet.
I hope we'll get some more... ;) It was said "stay tuned on www.dreamtheater.net"...So we're a few minutes from noon in the Eastern timezone, and no additional information on the site yet.
I thought the additional info was the release date...no?
It very well could be. We'll see when they post whatever it is on the site.So we're a few minutes from noon in the Eastern timezone, and no additional information on the site yet.
I thought the additional info was the release date...no?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but The Shaman's Trance is the "song #5" that MM talked about in an interview. He said this song was a blast.
What does word "morning" means for DT? ;D shit I can't wait THE NEWS !!!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but The Shaman's Trance is the "song #5" that MM talked about in an interview. He said this song was a blast.
Guys!
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What? It looks the same to me.
DRUM!: Any new songs that were especially difficult?
Mangini: The one where I put the most amount of psychotic, two-things-at-the-same-time type of drumming would be track six [still unnamed as of press time]. While multi time signature shifts were going on, I was playing in a time signature that was completely different from those with one limb on one side of my body. And I was really hitting the drums. I’m very proud of it, but they liked it musically. I wouldn’t do it just to throw it in. I didn’t do it for that reason. I did it because I had a mathematical joy out of it. Oh, my gosh, it would be amazing to play in 7/16 here, but yet it’s changing time signatures 18 times or something.
They might have changed the track order since then though
They might have changed the track order since then thoughThat's what I think too. The Shaman's Trance has to be a crazy song. Nothing else can fit this title.
Anyway, the song titles didn't come off as very DT-y for me
I suppose the lyrics just became less fantasy-ish when Portnoy wasn't involved.
Track 6 is the 6th song they tracked.
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'
Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.
What's "awful" about Erotomania?
Seriously?
Yes. I don't get where you're coming from at all on that one. It fits in perfectly with the AMBI concept.
It fits in perfectly with a low budget porno.
What if it actually is TOMORROW (Thursday) and not this morning?
The album and song titles were announced at around 12 AM (Wednesday, today)
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'
Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.
What's "awful" about Erotomania?
Seriously?
Yes. I don't get where you're coming from at all on that one. It fits in perfectly with the AMBI concept.
It fits in perfectly with a low budget porno.
Only if you don't know what Erotomania actually means.
I suppose the lyrics just became less fantasy-ish when Portnoy wasn't involved.
This makes absolutely zero sense. Portnoy's lyrics have almost always been personal whereas Petrucci's lyrics have been "fantasy-ish" in the past.
I suppose the lyrics just became less fantasy-ish when Portnoy wasn't involved.
This makes absolutely zero sense. Portnoy's lyrics have almost always been personal whereas Petrucci's lyrics have been "fantasy-ish" in the past.
That's true... then maybe it's because Petrucci decided to step away from the fantasy-like lyrics (i.e. in a "new direction"), along with the fact that Myung wrote some of them, or something.
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'
Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.
What's "awful" about Erotomania?
Seriously?
Yes. I don't get where you're coming from at all on that one. It fits in perfectly with the AMBI concept.
It fits in perfectly with a low budget porno.
Only if you don't know what Erotomania actually means.
I know what it means .
My opinion is that I don't like the song title "Erotomania" so deal with it.
could people please stop saying that the title of the album is a reference to portnoy's leaving?No one has really been talking about that for a few pages now chief.
I could care less about the theme in relation to the song title - which is what we are talking about here.
Two separate things dude.
what? the song title should reflect the theme...unless i'm on crack.
Then why do you think it has anything to do with porn?
could people please stop saying that the title of the album is a reference to portnoy's leaving? in reality, we don't know, but most like it's a reference to the entire process that his leaving entailed. moving on, the search for a new drummer, selecting mangini, finding the new chemistry, etc. - i honestly dont think the ADCOE is only "about portnoy leaving."
Did anyone see this message on the MP board?
I thought it was funny...
A Dramatic Turn of Events = DT Eleven
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the previous pages but if you're worried about the song titles being bad - see 'Erotomania'
Awful title - mind blowing music - so who cares what they're called right.
What's "awful" about Erotomania?
Seriously?
Yes. I don't get where you're coming from at all on that one. It fits in perfectly with the AMBI concept.
It fits in perfectly with a low budget porno.
Only if you don't know what Erotomania actually means.
I know what it means .
Then why do you think it has anything to do with porn?QuoteMy opinion is that I don't like the song title "Erotomania" so deal with it.
I don't really care whether you like it or not, but if you're unable to articulate a basis for that dislike, then I think your initial "Seriously?" response to me would seem to have been inappropriate.
I really hope that they'd use a real artist this time, so no Photoshop pieces with cut and past of free pics. Everyone with at least some eye and extra time can make good things with that toy, but I'd prefer a real oil-painting.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Dream-Theater-Announce-New-AlbumRelease-Date-23046.aspx?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29&utm_campaign=FB%2B%28DT%2BPR%29
Is this the news or something else?
What becomes the tracklisting (what I noticed not until now) I am VERY surpised, I thought they invent complex and long song names but what are these "This is The Life" and "Outcry"? I have no idea what to expect from this album :justjen
Sounds little bit that DT returns to its roots...
could people please stop saying that the title of the album is a reference to portnoy's leaving? in reality, we don't know, but most like it's a reference to the entire process that his leaving entailed. moving on, the search for a new drummer, selecting mangini, finding the new chemistry, etc. - i honestly dont think the ADCOE is only "about portnoy leaving."
You just implied that it is... albeit not explicitly.
The thing that worries me the most about the title is the fact that it makes me fear that they are going to allude to Portnoy's departure in a very cheesy way. In fact, many of the track titles suggest that as well.
I think for some it's because it has MP written all over it and it's definately not something you'd expect
If it weren't for the obvious reference to Portnoy leaving there'd probably be more "oh, ok" reactions.
Why don't people like the title?2. I was personally hoping DT11 wouldn't be drenched in MP references, and it seems to me that the title indicates it will be.
This just seems to me to be milking the fact that Mike left more.
I could care less about the theme in relation to the song title - which is what we are talking about here.
Two separate things dude.
what? the song title should reflect the theme...unless i'm on crack.
Let's be honest here, you totally are on crack.
(For the record I'm just joking, I don't mean any offense. :P)
OMG!! Song "Build Me Up, Break Me Down" leaked: :omg: :omg: :omg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5egA3dZ91Dc
i can keep going if you want me to.
Just IMO, of course. And, as a gesture of goodwill, here is my awful attempt for you to - quite rightly - rip the living shite out of.Soooooo close!
DREAM THEATER - The Truth
1. The Speed of Light
2. Lock and Key
3. One of the Family
4. Under the Surface
5. Spiralling
6. Surgical Gloves
7. The Sandstorm
I really hope that they'd use a real artist this time, so no Photoshop pieces with cut and past of free pics. Everyone with at least some eye and extra time can make good things with that toy, but I'd prefer a real oil-painting.
Yeah, with you on this. BCSL's artwork's kinda ugly. Chaos in Motion directly before, however, is gorgeous.I really hope that they'd use a real artist this time, so no Photoshop pieces with cut and past of free pics. Everyone with at least some eye and extra time can make good things with that toy, but I'd prefer a real oil-painting.
Hey now, Hugh Syme is a great album artist. Just look at all the great stuff he did for Rush! And Octavarium! Blame BC&SL's album art on Portnoy's vision to go back to a more I&W/Awake-looking album.
Then why do you think it has anything to do with porn?
https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/erotomania "abnormally strong or persistent sexual desire."
Not saying I associate the song with porn, but the definition of the word itself is pretty easily connected to porn.
Erotomania is a type of delusion in which the affected person believes that another person, usually a stranger or famous person, is in love with him or her. The illness often occurs during psychosis, especially in patients with schizophrenia or bipolar mania.[1]
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During an erotomanic episode, the patient believes that a "secret admirer" is declaring his or her affection to the patient, often by special glances, signals, telepathy, or messages through the media. Usually the patient then returns the perceived affection by means of letters, phone calls, gifts, and visits to the unwitting recipient. Even though these advances are unexpected and unwanted, any denial of affection by the object of this delusional love is dismissed by the patient as a ploy to conceal the forbidden love from the rest of the world.[2]
The term erotomania is often confused with "obsessive love", obsession with unrequited love, or hypersexuality (see nymphomania). Obsessive love is not erotomania by definition.
Then why do you think it has anything to do with porn?
https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/erotomania "abnormally strong or persistent sexual desire."
Not saying I associate the song with porn, but the definition of the word itself is pretty easily connected to porn.
That definition is not accurate.
The definition you quoted seems to have fallen prey to this:
Then why do you think it has anything to do with porn?
https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/erotomania "abnormally strong or persistent sexual desire."
Not saying I associate the song with porn, but the definition of the word itself is pretty easily connected to porn.
That definition is not accurate.
The definition you quoted seems to have fallen prey to this:
Fair enough. I'd never heard the term before DT, so hopefully you can't fault me for trusting dictionary.com. :laugh: My apologies.
1. On the Backs of Angels - Oh my god is that a song title. This better be a great song or it's a huge waste of a name.
This.
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I'm going to be honest: I really think this is going to be a concept album. The song titles seem to suggest that the concept will be something spiritual. The obvious ones are On the Backs of Angels and Far from Heaven, but we also have references to life (This is the Life), death (Lost Not Forgotten), spiritualism (The Shaman's Trance), and perhaps even hell (Beneath the Surface). I fully expect people to disagree, but I'm just raising this as a possibility.
I know I am going to sound like a broken record here but I think the album title sounds so bland and uncreative. It's not horrible or anything, it's just... You know? It's just... Meh.
But then again I am the original unseasoned fan.
Zook, I love you.
Just to toot my own horn, was looking through the "make up your own eleventh album" thread, and check it out...Just IMO, of course. And, as a gesture of goodwill, here is my awful attempt for you to - quite rightly - rip the living shite out of.Soooooo close!
DREAM THEATER - The Truth
1. The Speed of Light
2. Lock and Key
3. One of the Family
4. Under the Surface
5. Spiralling
6. Surgical Gloves
7. The Sandstorm
SO.... Did anybody at the Aniland's fake Album/Tracklist thread actually got at least one title right?
Yep. On the second page, somebody got "Outcry" and "Lost Not Forgotten". Pretty fucking incredible if you ask me.
SO.... Did anybody at the Aniland's fake Album/Tracklist thread actually got at least one title right?
Yep. On the second page, somebody got "Outcry" and "Lost Not Forgotten". Pretty fucking incredible if you ask me.
I just double-checked for the heck of it, and don't see either one?
Just to toot my own horn, was looking through the "make up your own eleventh album" thread, and check it out...Just IMO, of course. And, as a gesture of goodwill, here is my awful attempt for you to - quite rightly - rip the living shite out of.Soooooo close!
DREAM THEATER - The Truth
1. The Speed of Light
2. Lock and Key
3. One of the Family
4. Under the Surface
5. Spiralling
6. Surgical Gloves
7. The Sandstorm
Do you think that they trolled the forums and took some of the album titles from here? it's entirely possible lol
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/LemonyDT.jpg)This needs reposting..
I'm getting a pretty strong FII vibe from most of these song titles.
I know I am going to sound like a broken record here but I think the album title sounds so bland and uncreative. It's not horrible or anything, it's just... You know? It's just... Meh.Agreed with your unseasonedness.
But then again I am the original unseasoned fan.
Outcry makes me think of this.Wow :2metal: and that voice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdm9zQpDBys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdm9zQpDBys)
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/DT_ADTOE_Cover3.jpg)
SO.... Did anybody at the Aniland's fake Album/Tracklist thread actually got at least one title right?
Yep. On the second page, somebody got "Outcry" and "Lost Not Forgotten". Pretty fucking incredible if you ask me.
I just double-checked for the heck of it, and don't see either one?
This
I've lived with the idea that the first track was called "On the backs of angles" all day. At first I didn't get it but the idea grew on me and I kinda thought it was really cool name. A minute ago I read it again and it said angels. :-\Well it does make very little sense... so maybe.
So who else think angles would be cooler?
I've lived with the idea that the first track was called "On the backs of angles" all day. At first I didn't get it but the idea grew on me and I kinda thought it was really cool name. A minute ago I read it again and it said angels. :-\
So who else think angles would be cooler?
I just hope the songs are as good as the names!Knowing Dream Theater, they will. Knowing their fans, they wont.
If this is true, I love it. The song titles are really unusual compared to what they were called on the more recent releases, but it doesn't matter to me. The album title... Well, it might be indeed a nod to MP's departure, and it sounds a bit cliché'd, but I'm not one who thinks an album is worse because of a rather uninteresting title.This exactly. It's a little cliche'd, but less so than a lot of DT's song titles and less so than BC&SL. And it doesn't really matter if the material that backs it up is good. As someone else mentioned early in the thread, out of context "Learning to Live" is a cheesy title, but in the context of the music and the lyrics it is perfect.
(https://skepticalteacher.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/its_a_conspiracy1.jpg):cornThisSO.... Did anybody at the Aniland's fake Album/Tracklist thread actually got at least one title right?
Yep. On the second page, somebody got "Outcry" and "Lost Not Forgotten". Pretty fucking incredible if you ask me.
I just double-checked for the heck of it, and don't see either one?
And most of all I really like the fact that both the album and song titles are a little different for DT.
SO.... Did anybody at the Aniland's fake Album/Tracklist thread actually got at least one title right?
Yep. On the second page, somebody got "Outcry" and "Lost Not Forgotten". Pretty fucking incredible if you ask me.
I just double-checked for the heck of it, and don't see either one?
And most of all I really like the fact that both the album and song titles are a little different for DT.
Oh well. It is what it is. I would have preferred "On the Backs of Angels" as the album title, and the first song being called "A Dramatic Turn of Events".
Oh well. It is what it is. I would have preferred "On the Backs of Angels" as the album title, and the first song being called "A Dramatic Turn of Events".Nah I LOVE that one as a song title. I also love Far From Heaven and This is the Life. The rest are cool though, although Shaman's Trance is the obvious odd-one out, but I can hope for a TCOT can't I? :biggrin:
Anyone else get the email from Roadrunner?
Could the header be a glimpse of the artwork/fonts on the artwork?
(https://i.imgur.com/MPcAV.png)
Sorry if someone's already brought this up, I only read half of the 13 pages.Though there's always the possibility that the track order changed between then and now.
But Mangini said that it was track 6 with the ridiculous drumming, no? That'd be Outcry.
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Anyone posting information about album leaks, including offering leaked material or asking for leaked material, will be banned. No exceptions. Depending on the seriousness of the offense, you will either be banned permanently, or at the very least, until release date.
James, you've been around at least two album release cycles. There is no excuse for you not knowing that what you posted is against the rules. Last warning on that subject.
Sorry if someone's already brought this up, I only read half of the 13 pages.
But Mangini said that it was track 6 with the ridiculous drumming, no? That'd be Outcry.
:metal
Sorry if someone's already brought this up, I only read half of the 13 pages.
But Mangini said that it was track 6 with the ridiculous drumming, no? That'd be Outcry.
:metal
link pls
Sorry if someone's already brought this up, I only read half of the 13 pages.
But Mangini said that it was track 6 with the ridiculous drumming, no? That'd be Outcry.
:metal
link pls
It's in the new drummer and new album info sticky thread. https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=22350.msg872880#msg872880 "Mangini: The one where I put the most amount of psychotic, two-things-at-the-same-time type of drumming would be track six [still unnamed as of press time]."
In other news, https://dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#pressrelease. dreamtheater.net finally has something new, but as far as I can tell, it's exactly the same article as was posted from a spanish website in the 'a rumor' thread yesterday.
In other news, https://dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#pressrelease. dreamtheater.net finally has something new, but as far as I can tell, it's exactly the same article as was posted from a spanish website in the 'a rumor' thread yesterday.
You will generally NOT find information on .net as quickly as you will find it elsewhere. That's not a knock on the band, but their webmaster simply doesn't get the info out as promptly as you would expect. That's why I appreciate fans posting stuff here as soon as it is released so that we can make sure the information is out to as many people as quickly as possible.
I'm willing to bet the album artwork will be out by the end of the week.Likewise.
(https://imageflock.com/img/1307573067.png)
I'm willing to bet the album artwork will be out by the end of the week.
The cover art will have a bird in it, i'm sure of it.
The cover art will have a bird in it, i'm sure of it.I'm thinking along these lines. It looks like it could be an image from a sky point of view looking down or across something. I'm expecting birds and maybe an ocean, forest, etc.
I think the new info is the release date considering the tracklisting was released on the seventh and the the release date was todayI'm willing to bet the album artwork will be out by the end of the week.
Considering there's more info coming out tomorrow, I think there's a 50/50 chance it's the artwork.
The cover art will have a bird in it, i'm sure of it.
I'm sure the cover art will have a Rhinoceros in it.
You definitely don't want to be standing under the tree that thing's perched in.
The cover art will have a bird in it, i'm sure of it.
I'm sure the cover art will have a Rhinoceros in it.
Or better yet:
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/DT_RhinoBird.jpg)
(Rhino-Bird shoop is not my work)
Zook, I love you.
Me neither actually. :lolThe cover art will have a bird in it, i'm sure of it.
I'm sure the cover art will have a Rhinoceros in it.
Or better yet:
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/DT_RhinoBird.jpg)
(Rhino-Bird shoop is not my work)
If this was the official album art, I wouldn't even be mad.
That makes you the one who posts too much :lol
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I was the first one to post in this thread. That makes me the king of DTF.org.
I think the new album is going to be 4:57-5:08 of Lie, on repeat for 80 minutes. And the artwork will be Louie Anderson on a Jackhammer with oldschool headphones on.
I think the new album is going to be 4:57-5:08 of Lie, on repeat for 80 minutes. And the artwork will be Louie Anderson on a Jackhammer with oldschool headphones on.Ummmmmmmmm, can you explain why you believe this???
Sorry if someone's already brought this up, I only read half of the 13 pages.
But Mangini said that it was track 6 with the ridiculous drumming, no? That'd be Outcry.
:metal
And maybe it's a concept album about the life and realization of sasquatch.
And maybe it's a concept album about the life and realization of sasquatch.
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/DT_harry_DTOE.jpg)
Hi everyone. First post. I'm a total DT noob.
I'm wondering...do you think "This is the life" is a Living Colour cover? It's a great song, and I could see DT doing something really beautiful with it. If you're want to hear it, "This is the life" is on the "Time's Up" CD.
Just to toot my own horn, was looking through the "make up your own eleventh album" thread, and check it out...Just IMO, of course. And, as a gesture of goodwill, here is my awful attempt for you to - quite rightly - rip the living shite out of.Soooooo close!
DREAM THEATER - The Truth
1. The Speed of Light
2. Lock and Key
3. One of the Family
4. Under the Surface
5. Spiralling
6. Surgical Gloves
7. The Sandstorm
Do you think that they trolled the forums and took some of the album titles from here? it's entirely possible lol
um.
what?
Hi everyone. First post. I'm a total DT noob.
I'm wondering...do you think "This is the life" is a Living Colour cover? It's a great song, and I could see DT doing something really beautiful with it. If you want to hear it, "This is the life" is on the "Time's Up" CD. Or, you can listen to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6okNaPSRdlI
Hi everyone. First post. I'm a total DT noob.
I'm wondering...do you think "This is the life" is a Living Colour cover? It's a great song, and I could see DT doing something really beautiful with it. If you want to hear it, "This is the life" is on the "Time's Up" CD. Or, you can listen to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6okNaPSRdlI
Do you really think DT would put a cover on the standard version of their album?
Hi everyone. First post. I'm a total DT noob.
I'm wondering...do you think "This is the life" is a Living Colour cover? It's a great song, and I could see DT doing something really beautiful with it. If you want to hear it, "This is the life" is on the "Time's Up" CD. Or, you can listen to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6okNaPSRdlI
Do you really think DT would put a cover on the standard version of their album?
I don't have any idea. As my original post clearly states, I'm a DT noob.
I was thinking the same thing, as far as NP goes. A few of the song titles made me think of RUSH.
I've actually come to really like the new album title. I can see how it is being interpreted as a bit cheezy in the light of the events the band has been in the last year, but on it's own it seems really bad ass. surely i'm not the only one?I think a cheesy title would be along the lines of "Our Tragic Loss" or something like that - which they'd never do, but you get the idea. A Dramatic Turn of Events is pretty cool - a little cheeky, acknowledging the unignorable situation with a little whimsy. "Christ, that was dramatic!"
Any news on the new info JP mentioned that would be found on DT.net this morning?
Is it just me or does A Dramatic Turn of Events have similar "flow" like Pink Floyd's A Momentary Lapse of Reason? :rollin
Is it just me or does A Dramatic Turn of Events have similar "flow" like Pink Floyd's A Momentary Lapse of Reason? :rollin
It does remind me of the lack of updates we were experiencing in the last couple of months, up until the MM announcement.
A Dramatic Lapse of Events
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Imagine a quote pyramid consisting entirely of me quoting myself saying I love Zook.
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Imagine a quote pyramid consisting entirely of me quoting myself saying I love Zook.
Now, imagine you're standing on that pyramid in these sorta Sun God robes, while millions of naked women are screaming and throwing tiny pickles at you.
Any news on the new info JP mentioned that would be found on DT.net this morning?
Nope, as far as I know, the most we got was an email from them with yesterday's info and what seems to be the top part of the album cover (my sig)
9 songs from an inspired John Petrucci - I think ADTOE is going to be a guitar fan's wet dream. Who's with me?
Any news on the new info JP mentioned that would be found on DT.net this morning?
Nope, as far as I know, the most we got was an email from them with yesterday's info and what seems to be the top part of the album cover (my sig)
Well there wasn't anything in that email that said that was the top part of the album art, looks more like a quickly thrown together graphic for promotional purposes.
9 songs from an inspired John Petrucci - I think ADTOE is going to be a guitar fan's wet dream. Who's with me?
9 songs from an equally reinvigorated Jordan Rudess.
9 songs containing input (both musical and LYRICAL) from John Myung, an until now silenced genius.
9 songs with the powerhouse Mike Mangini, who has finally found his musical home, on drums.
But most importantly 9 songs from a band which has something to prove for the first time in almost 15 years. Bring it on.
Also, first post. S'up fell DT fans?
9 songs from an inspired John Petrucci - I think ADTOE is going to be a guitar fan's wet dream. Who's with me?
9 songs from an equally reinvigorated Jordan Rudess.
9 songs containing input (both musical and LYRICAL) from John Myung, an until now silenced genius.
9 songs with the powerhouse Mike Mangini, who has finally found his musical home, on drums.
But most importantly 9 songs from a band which has something to prove for the first time in almost 15 years. Bring it on.
Also, first post. S'up fell DT fans?
No LaBrie? Leave DTF.
how come no one is really talking about the release date? cant wait for september 13th!
how come no one is really talking about the release date? cant wait for september 13th!
Because I don't want summer to be over, it just got here in the Northeast :(.
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Imagine a quote pyramid consisting entirely of me quoting myself saying I love Zook.
Now, imagine you're standing on that pyramid in these sorta Sun God robes, while millions of naked women are screaming and throwing tiny pickles at you.
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Imagine a quote pyramid consisting entirely of me quoting myself saying I love Zook.
Now, imagine you're standing on that pyramid in these sorta Sun God robes, while millions of naked women are screaming and throwing tiny pickles at you.
You are my hero.
I love the album title. I just hope the album artwork isn't cheesy. And if it is, I hope it's cheesy in an awesome way.
"On the Backs of Angels" is a beautiful title and I see what James probably meant by "oozing with emotion"
"Build Me Up, Break Me Down" just sounds exciting as all hell of a song, and I bet it will be anthemic.
"Lost Not Forgotten" will almost definitely be the single based on the title and track placement; sounds really tense and epic
"This is the Life" sounds really optimistic and light; I think this song will be a cult classic, perhaps the next Myung?
"The Shaman's Trance" is a silly name and I hate it; I hope it is the instrumental because I don't want LaBrie singing about that subject.
"Outcry" sounds like it will be tremendous and intense.
"Far From Heaven"... ambiguous. Could be giant, could be a ballad, will probably have LaBrie sounding incredibly.
"Breaking All Illusions"...and
"Beneath the Surface"...these last two songs, both give me the feeling that they'll be so big, maybe the best penultimate and ending tracks Dream Theater has ever penned. I feel like one of them (or both?) is Myung. Just...
Ahhhhhhh
:lolhow come no one is really talking about the release date? cant wait for september 13th!
Because I don't want summer to be over, it just got here in the Northeast :(.
*post*
Now, imagine you're standing on that pyramid in these sorta Sun God robes, while millions of naked women are screaming and throwing tiny pickles at you.
how come no one is really talking about the release date? cant wait for september 13th!
9 songs containing input (both musical and LYRICAL) from John Myung, an until now silenced genius.
haha im in NE as well, but it seems that everyone was waiting for more stuff to be released and i think 9/13 is what JP was referring to when he said check out DT.net for more news in the morning
Not right now.:lol
But I understand you asking, King. A girl's gotta have her standards, right? :D
I am reminded of the immortal words of Socrates, who said "I drank what?"
Not right now.:lol
But I understand you asking, King. A girl's gotta have her standards, right? :D
I need to watch that. I haven't seen it in a few years.
I'm going to be honest: I really think this is going to be a concept album. The song titles seem to suggest that the concept will be something spiritual. The obvious ones are On the Backs of Angels and Far from Heaven, but we also have references to life (This is the Life), death (Lost Not Forgotten), spiritualism (The Shaman's Trance), and perhaps even hell (Beneath the Surface). I fully expect people to disagree, but I'm just raising this as a possibility.
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath The Surface
I think there could be a religious/spiritual theme on the new album knowing that JP is mostly the main lyricist and we know he like to talk about Religious things... some of the names of the songs could develop some religious ideas/beliefs..
On the Backs of Angels
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Lost Not Forgotten
This is the Life
The Shaman's Trance
Outcry
Far From Heaven
This two i can't get a reference.
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath The Surface
OMG ITS A CONCEPT
:| :| :| :| :| :|IDK why, but I burst out laughing.
:omg:
OMG ITS A CONCEPT
A concept about his transformation into a bear. You have to admit, slowly turning into a bear with superhuman guitar prowess would classify as a dramatic turn of events for pretty much anyone.
New JP Interview"Commonly referred to as the biggest band nobody knows about..." Now that's...hm...a quotation i haven't heard before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GZCNcQONF8&feature=feedu
@jdprsaga:I'm going to be honest: I really think this is going to be a concept album. The song titles seem to suggest that the concept will be something spiritual. The obvious ones are On the Backs of Angels and Far from Heaven, but we also have references to life (This is the Life), death (Lost Not Forgotten), spiritualism (The Shaman's Trance), and perhaps even hell (Beneath the Surface). I fully expect people to disagree, but I'm just raising this as a possibility.
Breaking All Illusions could be about a crisis of faith, theoretically. Y'know, deciding that God is an illusion? Or wondering if all religion is an illusion, but eventually being reassured? I dunno. It's theoretically possible, though.
New JP Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GZCNcQONF8&feature=feedu
Artisan is the most useless thing in the world.
Ah, so that's what you mean by "incredible". :-)SO.... Did anybody at the Aniland's fake Album/Tracklist thread actually got at least one title right?
Yep. On the second page, somebody got "Outcry" and "Lost Not Forgotten". Pretty fucking incredible if you ask me.
I just double-checked for the heck of it, and don't see either one?
I made it up.
I think the new album is going to be 4:57-5:08 of Lie, on repeat for 80 minutes. And the artwork will be Louie Anderson on a Jackhammer with oldschool headphones on.I listened to the loop for like two minutes and I thought I'd explode. But listening to Constant Motion, I get where you're coming from. Nothing against CM though.
Well there wasn't anything in that email that said that was the top part of the album art, looks more like a quickly thrown together graphic for promotional purposes.Yes. People, please. This was definitely put together in 10 minutes in MS Paint because they didn't get the album art on time.
how come no one is really talking about the release date? cant wait for september 13th!
Weren't we supposed to hear something else today?
BTW, great Mangini article in May issue of Drumhead magazine. Talks about the writing /recording process for the new album. Very LOOOONG interview. Might be old news here, but still worth sharing.
Probably in the UK since it's a Monday.
I hope one of the new songs has the word 'microphone', but LaBrie leaves a giant pause between the first syllable and the rest of the word.
I hope one of the new songs has the word 'microphone', but LaBrie leaves a giant pause between the first syllable and the rest of the word.
Looking through different forums, especially MP's (no offense intended at all), it just gets annoying reading people saying how they hope the new album doesn't mention MP at all or that the whole situation isn't mentioned.
Why should this be a topic to be avoided? Why can't DT bring it up? It's a way to cope with it by releasing it through an artistic way. Why can't DT express it?
:rollin :rollin :rollinI hope one of the new songs has the word 'microphone', but LaBrie leaves a giant pause between the first syllable and the rest of the word.
"Oh God, I hate this MIKE! ...rophone".
I dont mind which track it is (title wise)...but what I am curious about is....what will be the atmosphere/style of the track, will it be very metalish, or will it be very smooth, clean and lovely...and if they acutally use his name or an alias......and than the biggest question to me about this is, who will have written the lyrics?!?!
I hope one of the new songs has the word 'microphone', but LaBrie leaves a giant pause between the first syllable and the rest of the word.
"Oh God, I hate this MIKE! ...rophone".
MIKE - ROROROROROROPHONE
Looking through different forums, especially MP's (no offense intended at all), it just gets annoying reading people saying how they hope the new album doesn't mention MP at all or that the whole situation isn't mentioned.
Why should this be a topic to be avoided? Why can't DT bring it up? It's a way to cope with it by releasing it through an artistic way. Why can't DT express it?
Looking through different forums, especially MP's (no offense intended at all), it just gets annoying reading people saying how they hope the new album doesn't mention MP at all or that the whole situation isn't mentioned.
Why should this be a topic to be avoided? Why can't DT bring it up? It's a way to cope with it by releasing it through an artistic way. Why can't DT express it?
Bruce Dickinson and Rob Halford leaving their respective bands was MUCH bigger than this, and neither band wrote a song about it. That kind of melodrama isn't necessary, simple as that. However, I will say that at least it gives DT an emotional topic to write about rather than Freemasons.
No, it's fan-made.
DT.net has changed the release date from the 13th to the 12th :)
I would also like to add, that Bruce Dickinson wasn't a founding member of Iron Maiden. He was probably the best thing to happen to the band, but he wasn't one of the pivotal parts of the band. When they released The X Factor, it was a very dark album because of all the crap that the band had been putting up with. So, they didn't necessarily make a song about it, but they definitely made an album to show the bleakness of the situation.
Bruce Dickinson and Rob Halford leaving their respective bands was MUCH bigger than this, and neither band wrote a song about it. That kind of melodrama isn't necessary, simple as that. However, I will say that at least it gives DT an emotional topic to write about rather than Freemasons.
from james forum
Vocals/ Studio etc. etc.
« on: May 02, 2011, 09:44:47 am »
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Hi All,
Sorry I haven't been around, especially since the recent turn of events. Yes, MM is our drummer and we are psyched to begin on this new musical adventure.
Those of you who thought I am in Canada recording my vocals are correct. I am having a blast recording with Rich. We have been doing this recording thing off and on with one another for the last 24 years.
I am heading back into Rich's studio today to begin vocals on the 5th song. Can't wait for everyone to hear the fruits of our labor.
Have a great day and see you around on-line,doing fine.
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwk.
DT.net has changed the release date from the 13th to the 12th :)
Came across this in the what we know so far thread. :Pfrom james forum
Vocals/ Studio etc. etc.
« on: May 02, 2011, 09:44:47 am »
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Hi All,
Sorry I haven't been around, especially since the recent turn of events. Yes, MM is our drummer and we are psyched to begin on this new musical adventure.
Those of you who thought I am in Canada recording my vocals are correct. I am having a blast recording with Rich. We have been doing this recording thing off and on with one another for the last 24 years.
I am heading back into Rich's studio today to begin vocals on the 5th song. Can't wait for everyone to hear the fruits of our labor.
Have a great day and see you around on-line,doing fine.
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwk.
DT.net has changed the release date from the 13th to the 12th :)
Probably a Europe (Monday release dates) vs. North America (Tuesday release dates) thing.
DT.net has changed the release date from the 13th to the 12th :)
Probably a Europe (Monday release dates) vs. North America (Tuesday release dates) thing.
No, albums just don't come out on Tuesdays anymore
DT.net has changed the release date from the 13th to the 12th :)
Probably a Europe (Monday release dates) vs. North America (Tuesday release dates) thing.
No, albums just don't come out on Tuesdays anymore
Where do you live?
They do here. o_O
Hmmm as James said above he is doing Vocals on 5th song which on tracklisting is The Shaman's Trance and that is the one everyone is presuming to be an instrumental, so can we maybe rule out that song to be an instrumenal?
Hmmm as James said above he is doing Vocals on 5th song which on tracklisting is The Shaman's Trance and that is the one everyone is presuming to be an instrumental, so can we maybe rule out that song to be an instrumenal?
The 5th song he was tracking doesn't necessarily mean is the 5th song on the album.
Yer dude I don't really post here often I was just thought of something I that now appears that over had already noticed, no need to raise any alarms :)Hmmm as James said above he is doing Vocals on 5th song which on tracklisting is The Shaman's Trance and that is the one everyone is presuming to be an instrumental, so can we maybe rule out that song to be an instrumenal?
The 5th song he was tracking doesn't necessarily mean is the 5th song on the album.
This is the 4th or 5th time in this thread that someone has had to point this out. Not trying to be mean, just find it amusing how many people don't read through the threads.
Album title is fine to me. It doesn't sound any worse than Falling into Infinity or Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, both of which were slight WTFs at first glance. Sometimes, the band sounds like they are trying to be overly clever with their album titles, but this one works for me. :tup :tup
"So, early in your life, what music did you listen to?"
Seriously? You're going to ask John Petrucci that trite question that nobody wants to hear him answer anymore?
What plans do you have in mind for your next round of touring?
We have thought about the tour. The first tour we’re doing is in Europe, a festival tour with some headlining dates, as well. We’re playing some interesting places like Russia, Kiev, Rome, everything like that. Initially, it’s us getting out there. We’ll play a song from the new album, but it will be focused more on the festival scene, and people’s introductions to Mike Mangini. When we tour in the fall in support of the record, we’ll initiate some of the new concepts, new imagery, new lighting and video presentations, and, of course, the new songs. It’ll be something different at that point.
FTA:QuoteWhat plans do you have in mind for your next round of touring?
We have thought about the tour. The first tour we’re doing is in Europe, a festival tour with some headlining dates, as well. We’re playing some interesting places like Russia, Kiev, Rome, everything like that. Initially, it’s us getting out there. We’ll play a song from the new album, but it will be focused more on the festival scene, and people’s introductions to Mike Mangini. When we tour in the fall in support of the record, we’ll initiate some of the new concepts, new imagery, new lighting and video presentations, and, of course, the new songs. It’ll be something different at that point.
Interesting, won't this be the first time hearing a live version of a DT song prior to its official album release?
FTA:QuoteWhat plans do you have in mind for your next round of touring?
We have thought about the tour. The first tour we’re doing is in Europe, a festival tour with some headlining dates, as well. We’re playing some interesting places like Russia, Kiev, Rome, everything like that. Initially, it’s us getting out there. We’ll play a song from the new album, but it will be focused more on the festival scene, and people’s introductions to Mike Mangini. When we tour in the fall in support of the record, we’ll initiate some of the new concepts, new imagery, new lighting and video presentations, and, of course, the new songs. It’ll be something different at that point.
Interesting, won't this be the first time hearing a live version of a DT song prior to its official album release?
Six Degrees though, yeah, is definitely one that people have no problem with now because it has been around for a while, and is attached to such a great album.
Pretty sure they played quite a few FII songs live, in some form or another, well before the album came out.
Pretty sure they played quite a few FII songs live, in some form or another, well before the album came out.
BTW - The fake cover that was put up here is getting spread around via twitter as the actual cover. Find it amusing.
Six Degrees though, yeah, is definitely one that people have no problem with now because it has been around for a while, and is attached to such a great album.
??? What? How is that not easily one of the top album titles they have ever done? Or do you just not get the reference?
Six Degrees though, yeah, is definitely one that people have no problem with now because it has been around for a while, and is attached to such a great album.
??? What? How is that not easily one of the top album titles they have ever done? Or do you just not get the reference?
From official DT Facebook:
"Here we are in the studio today with Andy Wallace"
(https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/24838510150205108827181.jpg)
If the photo does not show up, here is the link:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180?sk=wall&filter=2
I'm posting form not my computer, it is cheating my all the time...
I know that ;) Just want to share this photo with You guys ;) :tupFrom official DT Facebook:
"Here we are in the studio today with Andy Wallace"
(https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/24838510150205108827181.jpg)
If the photo does not show up, here is the link:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180?sk=wall&filter=2
I'm posting form not my computer, it is cheating my all the time...
Yes, but JP has been in the studio with Wallace for some days already.
B.Lee
"So, early in your life, what music did you listen to?"
Seriously? You're going to ask John Petrucci that trite question that nobody wants to hear him answer anymore?
Check what website did the interview, pal. Maybe you don't want to hear him answer those questions anymore, but lots of people who browse and read that site may be interested. Not everyone's a hardcore DT fan like you, mate.
2.) there will be no new music related to the 12SS (not that the 12SS is bad, but it was definitely starting to feel stretched out)
I know that ;) Just want to share this photo with You guys ;) :tupFrom official DT Facebook:
"Here we are in the studio today with Andy Wallace"
(https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/24838510150205108827181.jpg)
If the photo does not show up, here is the link:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180?sk=wall&filter=2
I'm posting form not my computer, it is cheating my all the time...
Yes, but JP has been in the studio with Wallace for some days already.
B.Lee
Interesting to see how different people's reactions have been. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the title, but I don't think it's bad either. And, a couple things which keep me hopeful that it'll be better than the last two records: 1.) Myung is writing lyrics again 2.) there will be no new music related to the 12SS (not that the 12SS is bad, but it was definitely starting to feel stretched out) 3.) by extension, no tough-guy Mike Portnoy vocals and finally 4.) 9 songs, to me, means much more manageable song lengths and hopefully less "fluff" within individual songs.
Interesting to see how different people's reactions have been. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the title, but I don't think it's bad either. And, a couple things which keep me hopeful that it'll be better than the last two records: 1.) Myung is writing lyrics again 2.) there will be no new music related to the 12SS (not that the 12SS is bad, but it was definitely starting to feel stretched out) 3.) by extension, no tough-guy Mike Portnoy vocals and finally 4.) 9 songs, to me, means much more manageable song lengths and hopefully less "fluff" within individual songs.
Are we positive Myung is writing lyrics?
I know he really collaborated with JP this time musically but I never heard that he is writing lyrics again.
Interesting to see how different people's reactions have been. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the title, but I don't think it's bad either. And, a couple things which keep me hopeful that it'll be better than the last two records: 1.) Myung is writing lyrics again 2.) there will be no new music related to the 12SS (not that the 12SS is bad, but it was definitely starting to feel stretched out) 3.) by extension, no tough-guy Mike Portnoy vocals and finally 4.) 9 songs, to me, means much more manageable song lengths and hopefully less "fluff" within individual songs.That's exactly my feelings.
"So, early in your life, what music did you listen to?"
Seriously? You're going to ask John Petrucci that trite question that nobody wants to hear him answer anymore?
Check what website did the interview, pal. Maybe you don't want to hear him answer those questions anymore, but lots of people who browse and read that site may be interested. Not everyone's a hardcore DT fan like you, mate.
That's still silly. This guy's been around for decades.
When will we get the album art?
The more I think about it, the more I find the title suits really well the name of the band : Dream Theater / A Dramatic turn of events. The expression is visibly figurative language, which could mean that the title is not such a direct allusion to the breakup. What if SDT 11 was built as a play, the titles being the various scenes? What do you guys think? It maybe far-fetched, I grant you that. :DThere's just one problem: they've already built an album as a play before.
B.Lee
The more I think about it, the more I find the title suits really well the name of the band : Dream Theater / A Dramatic turn of events. The expression is visibly figurative language, which could mean that the title is not such a direct allusion to the breakup. What if SDT 11 was built as a play, the titles being the various scenes? What do you guys think? It maybe far-fetched, I grant you that. :DThere's just one problem: they've already built an album as a play before.
B.Lee
So according to a post on JLB's Facebook, Lost Not Forgotten and Shaman's Trance have both leaked to Youtube. Not sure if I should post a link or not...I'm sure. It's against the rules, so don't do it.
So according to a post on JLB's Facebook, Lost Not Forgotten and Shaman's Trance have both leaked to Youtube. Not sure if I should post a link or not...
Anyone posting information about album leaks, including offering leaked material or asking for leaked material, will be banned. No exceptions. Depending on the seriousness of the offense, you will either be banned permanently, or at the very least, until release date.
No, people are posting JLB solo songs and JP solo songs as new songs on Youtube.Yeah, this. Kind of dissapointing. :lol
Are they real?No.
I think we should all "leak" songs from Suspended Animation or MullMuzzler.. That makes the likelihood of people believing a real leak less likely - in a boy who cried wolf kinda way ...No, don't do that. Portnoy himself did that before Octavarium was released.
" Oh it must be new DT - it has Mangini on it ! "
" yeah but he played on all of Labries solo albums . . "
" oh . "
:neverusethis:
What about the "leaked" ADToE trailer?I think it's just a mashup of mullmuzzzler(?) material.
The Youtube videos need approval for comments so he's probably only letting up the comments that believe it, making people think everyone else thinks it's legitimate... :rollinSuccessful troll was successful.
The Youtube videos need approval for comments so he's probably only letting up the comments that believe it, making people think everyone else thinks it's legitimate... :rollinSuccessful troll was successful.
The Youtube videos need approval for comments so he's probably only letting up the comments that believe it, making people think everyone else thinks it's legitimate... :rollinSuccessful troll was successful.
Are they real?No.
And discussing where any potential leaks may be found is 100% against the rules.
No, not allowed. Bosk has already posted this, but even discussion about the existence of a leak, or discussion of the material before it is released, will be met with a ban. Same as for the last couple of albums.
No, not allowed. Bosk has already posted this, but even discussion about the existence of a leak, or discussion of the material before it is released, will be met with a ban. Same as for the last couple of albums.Oh, and please understand. It will be a ban, no warning, no nothing.
I will never understand why people post 'leaks' that are really just some other song. Maybe it's funny to someone who has the mental capacity of a five year old, I don't know.
Portnoy himself did that before Octavarium was released.Back then I fell into that trap.
I will never understand why people post 'leaks' that are really just some other song. Maybe it's funny to someone who has the mental capacity of a five year old, I don't know.
I will never understand why people post 'leaks' that are really just some other song. Maybe it's funny to someone who has the mental capacity of a five year old, I don't know.
I'm willing to believe it's five year olds who do it.
No, not allowed. Bosk has already posted this, but even discussion about the existence of a leak, or discussion of the material before it is released, will be met with a ban. Same as for the last couple of albums.Oh, and please understand. It will be a ban, no warning, no nothing.
So don't do it.
Interesting.
I love how the last section in the history section on the band's Wikipedia page is now called "The Departure of Mike Portnoy and A Dramatic Turn of Events". :lol
the shaman's trance will be the instrumental.
hold me to it.
the shaman's trance will be the instrumental.
hold me to it.
Will do. You and the 20 other people who've said the same thing here, that is.
The Shaman's Trance WON'T be instrumental.
Hold me to THAT.
The Shaman's Trance WON'T be instrumental.
Hold me to THAT.
I concur. While it would be an amazing name for a psychedelic instrumental it is more likely a Petrucci penned song along the lines of Forsaken or The Ministry of Lost Souls.
The only thing that gets weird with the no discussing "leaked" material rule is people tend to push the limits. I remember when Black Clouds leaked people would find little ways to have nuggets from the Black Clouds lyrics in their posts. People would say things like, "when I finally get this album I'm gonna put it right in my car and go for a ride across the open countryside." Then, people's "speculations" started to get strangly spot-on. "I have a really, really good feeling that The Best of Times is going to have a big Rush feel to it." :P
If I remember correctly, though, their were instances where both groups of people where told to knock it off.
I just want some friggin' audio already...
I come around you with a dance
A night to see the shaman's trance
Swing your hips
Flip your hair
Lick your lips
It's only fair
Yeah I went there
It's time you dance
That's how you enter
The shaman's trance
*Morphwiz breakout*
I just want some friggin' audio already...
They haven't actually finished mixing though, right?
the shaman's trance will be the instrumental.
hold me to it.
Will do. You and the 20 other people who've said the same thing here, that is.
but the other 20 people weren't the big nasty.
that's the distinction.
I just want some friggin' audio already...
They haven't actually finished mixing though, right?
I just want some friggin' audio already...
They haven't actually finished mixing though, right?
Exactly. And yet we still have retards falling for "leaks". ::)
I am more excited after reading this review :metal :metal
I am more excited after reading this review :metal :metal
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The only thing that gets weird with the no discussing "leaked" material rule is people tend to push the limits. I remember when Black Clouds leaked people would find little ways to have nuggets from the Black Clouds lyrics in their posts. People would say things like, "when I finally get this album I'm gonna put it right in my car and go for a ride across the open countryside." Then, people's "speculations" started to get strangly spot-on. "I have a really, really good feeling that The Best of Times is going to have a big Rush feel to it." :POR... "Sucking on his pipe!" underneath the avatar. The thing is you can't ban that person because under the logic of our ruling system here, not even the mods should make remarks about certain things being leaks because they supposedly don't know it's leaked material.
If I remember correctly, though, their were instances where both groups of people where told to knock it off.
That possibly may have been Jamesman's best post out of the 19,678 he has ever posted.
That possibly may have been Jamesman's best post out of the 19,678 he has ever posted.
You have only a 45 post count and you have read all 19,768 Jamesman's posts? You, liar!! ;D ;D ;D
B.Lee
Are they real?No.
And discussing where any potential leaks may be found is 100% against the rules.
Well, if that is my best, I best stop posting here then. Mission accomplished
so i shouldn't tell anyone about jamesman's pants?
Aim higher, Jamesman. ;D
When is MP releasing a Drumatic Turn of Events?
GAIS
When is MP releasing a Drumatic Turn of Events?
GAIS
September 14, 2011
Aim higher, Jamesman. ;D
I save that for you mom.
Yeah, a your mom joke. Take that!
Unless MP and MM are somehow inverses of each other, 11 being a prime number makes you fail hard, buddy. :biggrin:
I have a good feeling about this album.....becauseYou're right. The pattern definitely suggests that something awesome is going to happen when this album is released.
When Chris Collins left, they made their first DT album
When Charlie Dominici left, they made their most successful album, I&W
When Kevin Moore left, they made their EP, A Change of Seasons
When Derek Sherinian left, they made their first concept album
When Mike Portnoy left...
Correct me if I got anything wrong.
BTW, in an interview with Israeli online metal magazine, Metalist (yeah, original name indeed), the interviewer asked Petrucci (it's written in hebrew and I just translate, so maybe there are a few wrong words choise, but I think I kept the meaning the same):
"The name of the album immediately connects to last year's events - A Dramatic Turn of Events. is it possible to guess that the musical direction evolves in a dramatic way aswell, now that Mike Portnoy is not part of the band?"
And Petrucci answered:
"It's clear to me that it's possible to directly connect the name of the album to everything that has happened with the band in the last year, but it's not the case. the name is connected to the lyrical content of the album, and to the fact that most of the lyrics are about big changes that has happened in history and now in the world (socially, politically, spiritually). The songs are actually about that, and the title of the album represents that fact, but at the same time, I have to confess that it's clear that it's possible to translate it the way in which you talk about - although it wasn't the meaning."
Hope I translted it well. : )
the name is connected to the lyrical content of the album, and to the fact that most of the lyrics are about big changes that has happened in history and now in the world (socially, politically, spiritually). The songs are actually about that, and the title of the album represents that fact
Quotethe name is connected to the lyrical content of the album, and to the fact that most of the lyrics are about big changes that has happened in history and now in the world (socially, politically, spiritually). The songs are actually about that, and the title of the album represents that fact
So, it's a concept album? :neverusethis:
-Marc.
It actually sounds like it's a deep and reflective album and the lyrics sounds like the may be rather good!My exact thoughts.
It actually sounds like it's a deep and reflective album and the lyrics sounds like the may be rather good!My exact thoughts.
I really hope we get a single before DT starts playing the summer European festivals!
ಠ_ಠQuotethe name is connected to the lyrical content of the album, and to the fact that most of the lyrics are about big changes that has happened in history and now in the world (socially, politically, spiritually). The songs are actually about that, and the title of the album represents that fact
So, it's a concept album? :neverusethis:
-Marc.
I have a good feeling about this album.....because
When Chris Collins left, they made their first DT album
When Charlie Dominici left, they made their most successful album, I&W
When Kevin Moore left, they made their EP, A Change of Seasons
When Derek Sherinian left, they made their first concept album
When Mike Portnoy left...
I have a good feeling about this album.....because
When Chris Collins left, they made their first DT album
When Charlie Dominici left, they made their most successful album, I&W
When Kevin Moore left, they made their EP, A Change of Seasons
When Derek Sherinian left, they made their first concept album
When Mike Portnoy left...
Correct me if I got anything wrong.
Quotethe name is connected to the lyrical content of the album, and to the fact that most of the lyrics are about big changes that has happened in history and now in the world (socially, politically, spiritually). The songs are actually about that, and the title of the album represents that fact
So, it's a concept album? :neverusethis:
-Marc.
"The name of the album immediately connects to last year's events - A Dramatic Turn of Events. is it possible to guess that the musical direction evolves in a dramatic way aswell, now that Mike Portnoy is not part of the band?"
And Petrucci answered:
"It's clear to me that it's possible to directly connect the name of the album to everything that has happened with the band in the last year, but it's not the case. the name is connected to the lyrical content of the album, and to the fact that most of the lyrics are about big changes that has happened in history and now in the world (socially, politically, spiritually). The songs are actually about that, and the title of the album represents that fact, but at the same time, I have to confess that it's clear that it's possible to translate it the way in which you talk about - although it wasn't the meaning."
From an Isreali metal site: Metalist
mmmm can't wait to get me some encyclopedia-style lyrics 'bout historical events up in here.
mmmm can't wait to get me some encyclopedia-style lyrics 'bout historical events up in here.
It's not like the song titles are "We killed him!," "End of Ghaddafi?," and "There Have Been a Lot of Natural Disasters This Decade."
If its towards the social side of things, a song will most definitely be about Japan (earthquake, tsunami, nuclear issues). JR posted quite a bit about it and also a song I believe.
Yes, please. Jordan, go for it!If its towards the social side of things, a song will most definitely be about Japan (earthquake, tsunami, nuclear issues). JR posted quite a bit about it and also a song I believe.
Interesting thought...who knows, he may even contribute lyrics/backing vocals as he did sing in quite a few YouTube videos he posted.
JLB said on twitter that they start rehearsing for the summer tour next week.That doesn't really mean anything, but you'd expect them to be done mixing before they start tour rehearsals.
Does that mean the mixing is almost done???
JLB said on twitter that they start rehearsing for the summer tour next week.That doesn't really mean anything, but you'd expect them to be done mixing before they start tour rehearsals.
Does that mean the mixing is almost done???
According to JP in that hebrew interview mixing is in it's final stages. :)
I've been following this thread for a little while, and it struck me that there may actually be no backing vocals(for those wondering about jordan) - or, if there is, that james is likely doing them. Considering that james wanted to take care of that on his own, it's very possible. Personally, i enjoyed the harmonies better on images when james did them himself.
That interview on metalist, that everone was talking about a minute ago.
o what's up, John?
I'm cool, thanks. I'm currently in New York, the last stages of mixing the new album. The mix makes us great Andy Wallace, which is really exciting. He is a consummate professional and does an amazing job so far. On a personal note, I can say I'm very happy to be at this point finally.
I've been following this thread for a little while, and it struck me that there may actually be no backing vocals(for those wondering about jordan) - or, if there is, that james is likely doing them. Considering that james wanted to take care of that on his own, it's very possible. Personally, i enjoyed the harmonies better on images when james did them himself.
I've been following this thread for a little while, and it struck me that there may actually be no backing vocals(for those wondering about jordan) - or, if there is, that james is likely doing them. Considering that james wanted to take care of that on his own, it's very possible. Personally, i enjoyed the harmonies better on images when james did them himself.
??? Well...yeah...just about anything is possible, but I haven't seen any information that would lead anyone to the conclusion that it is likely that there are no backing vocals. Where did that come from?
...
Chycki commented on his role on what can be considered one of the most important albums of Dream Theater’s career.
“Working with James and John Petrucci on the new Dream Theater album was certainly an honour. Both James and John had a very confident sense of where they wanted the vocal performances to end up, and it’s gratifying that they placed their trust in my input. That level of focus gives us a surgical strike method to our madness – no guessing, just hitting on the definitive performance. To me, vibe is everything. My studio overlooks an equestrian ranch, swimming pool and gardens, so it’s quite serene and certainly away from any distractions. And, as with the Rush projects I’ve worked on, it’s always important to have fun and maintain a positive frame of mind while working toward the finish line. It’s an intangible facet that can really be heard and I think listeners will find the new Dream Theater is no exception. It’s fresh and exciting, James and the rest of the band perform with an amazing intensity.”
found it:Quote...
Chycki commented on his role on what can be considered one of the most important albums of Dream Theater’s career.
“Working with James and John Petrucci on the new Dream Theater album was certainly an honour. Both James and John had a very confident sense of where they wanted the vocal performances to end up, and it’s gratifying that they placed their trust in my input. That level of focus gives us a surgical strike method to our madness – no guessing, just hitting on the definitive performance. To me, vibe is everything. My studio overlooks an equestrian ranch, swimming pool and gardens, so it’s quite serene and certainly away from any distractions. And, as with the Rush projects I’ve worked on, it’s always important to have fun and maintain a positive frame of mind while working toward the finish line. It’s an intangible facet that can really be heard and I think listeners will find the new Dream Theater is no exception. It’s fresh and exciting, James and the rest of the band perform with an amazing intensity.”
that only says they had a clear vision for the vocals...not necessarily that JP did any. JP is the producer, therefore he is going to have a vision for the vocals regardless of if he actually contributes any.
Wow, I really don't like that album title at all. I figured they would probably name it after the recent transition they've been through, but it seems too wordy and straight forward with no mystery to it. Something more simple like "Crossroads" would've been perfect, but hey, it's their album.
Read this in mp forum:QuoteBTW, in an interview with Israeli online metal magazine, Metalist (yeah, original name indeed), the interviewer asked Petrucci (it's written in hebrew and I just translate, so maybe there are a few wrong words choise, but I think I kept the meaning the same):
"The name of the album immediately connects to last year's events - A Dramatic Turn of Events. is it possible to guess that the musical direction evolves in a dramatic way aswell, now that Mike Portnoy is not part of the band?"
And Petrucci answered:
"It's clear to me that it's possible to directly connect the name of the album to everything that has happened with the band in the last year, but it's not the case. the name is connected to the lyrical content of the album, and to the fact that most of the lyrics are about big changes that has happened in history and now in the world (socially, politically, spiritually). The songs are actually about that, and the title of the album represents that fact, but at the same time, I have to confess that it's clear that it's possible to translate it the way in which you talk about - although it wasn't the meaning."
Hope I translted it well. : )
Interesting if true!
a noobish question that's likely already been answered...but..
Did the band have all the songs written, and so on BEFORE Mangini was hired?
Or was he part of the process?
I'm sorry but that's kind of a... lame concept for an album. All the songs are about "big changes that happened in history?"
I'm sorry but that's kind of a... lame concept for an album. All the songs are about "big changes that happened in history?" ??? I don't know, I understand JP said this, but it almost seems far fetched. The album title seems like such an obvious connection to MP that I almost said "what? are you sure it's not related?" when I read that quote. If they didn't want to make a connection they could've at least chosen a more creative or memorable title. I don't know about you guys but I'm not incredibly impressed by the title and track names, I hope the music lives up though, since the names are really just a minor thing.
So, now that JP has indicated that the album title wasn't meant to refer to MP's departure, will those who hated it for "obviously" being about MP's departure change their minds?
ok you defition of a concept album is differnt than mine.
no problem there.
all i want is a DT album ....with some fresh DT music.
ok you defition of a concept album is differnt than mine.
no problem there.
all i want is a DT album ....with some fresh DT music.
Definitions aren't subjective. :facepalm:
In music, a concept album is an album that is "unified by a theme, which can be instrumental, compositional, narrative, or lyrical".[1] Commonly, concept albums tend to incorporate preconceived musical or lyrical ideas rather than being improvised or composed in the studio, with all songs contributing to a single overall theme or unified story. This is in contrast to the practice of an artist or group releasing an album consisting of a number of unconnected (lyrically or otherwise) songs performed by the artist.
We'll have to wait and see what it's actually like before we can judge.
I know, I know, but I can try can't I? :lolWe'll have to wait and see what it's actually like before we can judge.
This is the internet; that isn't how we do things here. ;)
No, you can't. That shit isn't allowed here! ;)I know, I know, but I can try can't I? :lolWe'll have to wait and see what it's actually like before we can judge.
This is the internet; that isn't how we do things here. ;)
I wonder if the first track of the album starts with those birdy sounds at the end of TCOT
wouldn't be the first time they used it... (SFAM to 6DOIT to TOT to 8VM)
"We've had many rehearsals the past few weeks for the upcoming tour. Like every one of us, Mike is getting ready and in my opinion, he's definitely ready with a great and professional attitude." I'm a bit skeptical about this being true; maybe the interviewer might have made a mistake in translating what JP said...
I'm sure JP and one of the techs mentioned rehearsals only started this week (or last maybe). But I could be wrong."We've had many rehearsals the past few weeks for the upcoming tour. Like every one of us, Mike is getting ready and in my opinion, he's definitely ready with a great and professional attitude." I'm a bit skeptical about this being true; maybe the interviewer might have made a mistake in translating what JP said...
Why are you skeptical about that being true?
There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for it or compose something unique for that specific text
Why are you skeptical about that being true?
I wonder if the first track of the album starts with those birdy sounds at the end of TCOT
wouldn't be the first time they used it... (SFAM to 6DOIT to TOT to 8VM)
I HIGHLY doubt it.
Oh, I see. Yeah, hard to say. It could be a mistranslation, or maybe John misspoke, or maybe they have had some informal rehearsals, but just haven't started the "official" tour rehearsals yet. Who knows?This is exactly my feeling as well.
There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."
There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."
So, Myung probably wrong one song?
Wait... is it confirmed that Myung has wrote lyrics for a song(s) on this album?
Wait... is it confirmed that Myung has wrote lyrics for a song(s) on this album?
Apparently so. Some user met Jordan a few months(?) ago at a benefit concert and Jordan told him that there will be JM lyrics to several songs. How many I have no clue, but I personally don't see it being higher than two because JP loves to write lyrics and I'm assuming JLB contributed lyrically as well.
^That would be very nice, along with the artwork. Perhaps after the mixing?
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There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."
So, Myung probably wrong one song?
You don't have to listen to them. I know I won't be :)There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."
So, Myung probably wrong one song?
:facepalm:
A FEW singles? Like, all before the album? Fuck.
The confirmation and the idea that it might be "multiple songs" came from exactly the same place. Namely, one of our number who met him at a recent event. Can't remember what the event was, precisely, but the number's no more dubious than the confirmation that JM's written a word in the first place.Wait... is it confirmed that Myung has wrote lyrics for a song(s) on this album?
Apparently so. Some user met Jordan a few months(?) ago at a benefit concert and Jordan told him that there will be JM lyrics to several songs. How many I have no clue, but I personally don't see it being higher than two because JP loves to write lyrics and I'm assuming JLB contributed lyrically as well.
Well, now I know how rumors get started.
JR confirmed that JM wrote lyrics on this album, but, as far as I can tell, any statements that it was to more than one song, let alone "several songs" are just rumor.
There's one rare case in this record where I had a song fairly ready lyrically speaking and then I could accommodate it to some existing music in the form of riffs that I thought of for another song. But that's very rare, and almost never were there situations where someone came in with lyrics from home and we were forced to accommodate music for them or compose something unique for that specific text."
So, Myung probably wrong one song?
:facepalm:
A FEW singles? Like, all before the album? Fuck.
In a dream last night Dream Theater were playing in my hometown. They had a new singer, a 13 year old girl and two equally aged back up singers.
The confirmation and the idea that it might be "multiple songs" came from exactly the same place. Namely, one of our number who met him at a recent event. Can't remember what the event was, precisely, but the number's no more dubious than the confirmation that JM's written a word in the first place.Wait... is it confirmed that Myung has wrote lyrics for a song(s) on this album?
Apparently so. Some user met Jordan a few months(?) ago at a benefit concert and Jordan told him that there will be JM lyrics to several songs. How many I have no clue, but I personally don't see it being higher than two because JP loves to write lyrics and I'm assuming JLB contributed lyrically as well.
Well, now I know how rumors get started.
JR confirmed that JM wrote lyrics on this album, but, as far as I can tell, any statements that it was to more than one song, let alone "several songs" are just rumor.
EDIT: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=22053.msg867186#msg867186 Here you go.
In this case, rumours get started by first-hand sources. Not chinese whispers.
Not to say that there's not a chance that Mebert could be embellishing - "some bloke off the internet" wouldn't exactly hold the same amount of water as an academic source - but he's been here for a while, he's a trusted member, and I can't see him making things up only to inevitably be proven wrong five months down the line. I'd be more inclined to trust him than Blabbermouth.
He said one thing he could tell me is that Myung wrote lyrics for songs (I believe he said songs, plural -- as in multiple songs).
How many I have no clue, but I personally don't see it being higher than two because JP loves to write lyrics and I'm assuming JLB contributed lyrically as well.
He may or may not have written lyrics, but they don't always get used... I also would wager a small amount that he only wrote 1, but 2-3 is plausible as well. I'm just going off of Petrucci saying that somebody brought in lyrics without a song in mind, which is what Portnoy used to complain about; probably, this was Myung. Did Myung wrote a song + lyrics for a 2nd song? Maybe.
In a dream last night Dream Theater were playing in my hometown. They had a new singer, a 13 year old girl and two equally aged back up singers.
In a dream last night Dream Theater were playing in my hometown. They had a new singer, a 13 year old girl and two equally aged back up singers.I had a dream the other night I was in their studio (although it seemed more like a house that looked out onto a large back garden). Anyway, I was chatting to Jordan about how they come up with ideas for songs and how they build them. He told me he basically gets some sound effects/samples (eg. thunder/sirens or whatever) and that they build all the songs around those :D
I had a dream that James died the other day :/ Right before the tour too, so the rest of the guys decided to call it quits. The album would have been their swan song. Strange dream :/ I woke up nearly in tears and thought thank god. :lol
:rollin :rollinIn a dream last night Dream Theater were playing in my hometown. They had a new singer, a 13 year old girl and two equally aged back up singers.I had a dream the other night I was in their studio (although it seemed more like a house that looked out onto a large back garden). Anyway, I was chatting to Jordan about how they come up with ideas for songs and how they build them. He told me he basically gets some sound effects/samples (eg. thunder/sirens or whatever) and that they build all the songs around those :D
:rollin :rollinIn a dream last night Dream Theater were playing in my hometown. They had a new singer, a 13 year old girl and two equally aged back up singers.I had a dream the other night I was in their studio (although it seemed more like a house that looked out onto a large back garden). Anyway, I was chatting to Jordan about how they come up with ideas for songs and how they build them. He told me he basically gets some sound effects/samples (eg. thunder/sirens or whatever) and that they build all the songs around those :D
In the subject of dreams, I listened through BC&SL before going to sleep a few nights ago, and it got me into a pretty vivid dream. I was watching Dream Theater playing live, but they were headlining at my local park, and for some reason there was only Petrucci, Myung and even stranger... Portnoy! I was talking with Petrucci and Myung after the gig, just hanging out, Myung bought me kebab meat and chips from a local chip shop (I have no idea haha), it was really great hanging out with them!Great ;D
I had an empty feeling after I awoke, I thought it was too real. But I'm going to miss Portnoy this July, bring on Mangini! :laugh:
Just having JM lyrics would be exciting enough, but according to Jordan:
"He has just been more involved in this album than he has been in a while. To the point where he is writing some lyrics and he had a lot of riff ideas and was very excited about going forward with this new situation."
(quote from interview I did for an upcoming Classic Rock Presents Prog DT feature)
Oh god I sure hope so. Very "The Great Debatish" :)I was thinking the same thing haha.
Oh please, none of the above. The Great Debate is terrible in every way.
Also, posting anything uploaded by the DT members is perfectly legal and within the rules of this site. If they leak something it's their problem.
loleminLIFE TO SAVE zzzzzzzzzzz
Oh please, none of the above. The Great Debate is terrible in every way.
Also, posting anything uploaded by the DT members is perfectly legal and within the rules of this site. If they leak something it's their problem.
jcrudess is jordan's youtube account and since he uploaded it, it's all good. :)Also, posting anything uploaded by the DT members is perfectly legal and within the rules of this site. If they leak something it's their problem.
Oh I was referring to the possibility that it might not have been Jordan who uploaded the video, due to it being leaked or something. Slim chances I know...
loleminLIFE TO SAVE zzzzzzzzzzz
I think this would be appropriate to include in the thread:Just having JM lyrics would be exciting enough, but according to Jordan:
"He has just been more involved in this album than he has been in a while. To the point where he is writing some lyrics and he had a lot of riff ideas and was very excited about going forward with this new situation."
(quote from interview I did for an upcoming Classic Rock Presents Prog DT feature)
loleminLIFE TO SAVE zzzzzzzzzzz
You must be that one DT fan that likes Prophets of War.
We would be so lucky if they were writing material as good as TGD.
I think this would be appropriate to include in the thread:Just having JM lyrics would be exciting enough, but according to Jordan:
"He has just been more involved in this album than he has been in a while. To the point where he is writing some lyrics and he had a lot of riff ideas and was very excited about going forward with this new situation."
(quote from interview I did for an upcoming Classic Rock Presents Prog DT feature)
JOHN MYUNG IS BACK!!!
You must be that one DT fan that likes Prophets of War.
That it's awful.You must be that one DT fan that likes Prophets of War.
Not criticising, but what do you find so bad about that song?
That it's awful.You must be that one DT fan that likes Prophets of War.
Not criticising, but what do you find so bad about that song?
Seriously, that is a fairly unliked song. Definitely in the lower (lowest?) echelon around here.
That it's awful.You must be that one DT fan that likes Prophets of War.
Not criticising, but what do you find so bad about that song?
Seriously, that is a fairly unliked song. Definitely in the lower (lowest?) echelon around here.
Comparing PoW to CM, TDEN and TCOT is mind boggling to me.Who's comparing them?
Comparing PoW to CM, TDEN and TCOT is mind boggling to me.Who's comparing them?
Eh, my point exactly. To me those songs are just atrocious from start to finish, whereas PoW has it's flaws and it's not the best song ever, but has a nice flow with fun and catchy melodies. I'm still shocked that there are people who can stand that blatant Metallica rip off, though. Opinions - what can you do? :DComparing PoW to CM, TDEN and TCOT is mind boggling to me.Who's comparing them?
Sorry half asleep. CM, TDEN and TCOT aren't awful in any way, but CM is the weakest out of them. Prophets of War is just terrible.
Eh, my point exactly. To me those songs are just atrocious from start to finish, whereas PoW has it's flaws and it's not the best song ever, but has a nice flow with fun and catchy melodies. I'm still shocked that there are people who can stand that blatant Metallica rip off, though. Opinions - what can you do? :DComparing PoW to CM, TDEN and TCOT is mind boggling to me.Who's comparing them?
Sorry half asleep. CM, TDEN and TCOT aren't awful in any way, but CM is the weakest out of them. Prophets of War is just terrible.
Eh, my point exactly. To me those songs are just atrocious from start to finish, whereas PoW has it's flaws and it's not the best song ever, but has a nice flow with fun and catchy melodies. I'm still shocked that there are people who can stand that blatant Metallica rip off, though. Opinions - what can you do? :DComparing PoW to CM, TDEN and TCOT is mind boggling to me.Who's comparing them?
Sorry half asleep. CM, TDEN and TCOT aren't awful in any way, but CM is the weakest out of them. Prophets of War is just terrible.
All right title and tracklisting! release date too! it's great to be away for a while and come back to so much news!
Anybody made a joke about how the album title would have been very convenient for MP to turn into a drum dvd? Would be disappointed if no one did.
@thePoWdiscussion:
PoW is one of my top 10 songs, Its something different, and I still don't understand what makes the song bad. Sounds like jumping the bandwagon. JLB's vocals are among his best. No solo, just a simple spoken part, the spot on feedback. Though it does has its flaws, like most other DT songs post 8VM, The MP spoken part could've been scrapped and they could've left the beautiful riffs underneath, and added an intro.
I think this would be appropriate to include in the thread:
Just having JM lyrics would be exciting enough, but according to Jordan:
"He has just been more involved in this album than he has been in a while. To the point where he is writing some lyrics and he had a lot of riff ideas and was very excited about going forward with this new situation."
(quote from interview I did for an upcoming Classic Rock Presents Prog DT feature)
I saw PoW's first live rendition, so take that.
I saw it live when they played it in Minneapolis. It's actually amazing live and it's a real crowd driven song, obviously because of the chants. I loved how JR's keyboard solo segued into PoW
I, unlike many others, like the newer albums (since 6DoIT and ToT) more than the older ones. But still they all are amazing. Idk I might be overoptimistic, but I think there is really no DT song that I don’t like :/ (or at least VERY few). They are all good in their own way. Maybe I should learn to be more critical idk :P.
However I have listened DT for only a couple of years so I respect the opinions of those who have followed the progress of the band a bit longer than I have :).
Anyway…. Im not very conservative when it comes to DT music. The main reason why I fell in love with DT music is that I thought (and still think) that their music is so varying, unpredictable and fun to listen to and they are not afraid to try something new. So my point is: for me, the more surprising, original and unpredictable the new album is, the better. And Im sure I wont be disappointed ^^
Piratecjs James LaBrie
Hey EdizArca, Don't know what your reading or listening to but we r far from commercial with the new material.
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I really didn't know where to put this, so I'll just put it here.
Mike recently posted these responses on his Facebook Fan Page:
On the subject of: "why is MP doing so many projects if he 'wanted a break'":
MP: "Once and for all (yeah right!), I felt *DT* needed a break...we were doing a constant write/record/tour cycle for over 20 years (of which I oversaw every aspect and was burnt out) and I felt the routine of the endless cycle (and our internal relationships) were getting stale and needed a little break to shake things up and re-inspire...I NEVER said that *I* needed a break from playing/creating/working.."
On the subject of:"JP & JR stated you wanted the band to just stop for 5 years...how could you expect them to do that?":
MP: "I never said '5 years' as they are saying...I suggested an "indefinite" break (which is exactly that...take some time off and when we ALL were ready, re-start)...they said no...I then suggested a compromise of reconvening in Jan 2012...they still said no...I then suggested a further compromise of doing "light work" throughout 2011 in order to keep $ flowing in...and they STILL said no...they basically said 'it's Jan 2011 or we're moving on without you'...with no compromises and no concerns or respect for my need for time off...and I wasn't going to be "forced" into something I wasn't ready to do, so I was left with no choice but to step aside....and then at the end of October, after 6 weeks of reflection, I was willing to do it just for the sake of not losing my own band, but they already started their auditions and their film and it was too late (although Mangini was NOT in the band yet at this point)...and even then, they had their lawyers respond to me...they didnt even do it themselves!! So everybody, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT before making accusations about me!!! or even better yet, let's just drop it and move on...The Serenity Prayer has taught me to "accept the things I cannot change"...and until somebody builds a time machine, you cannot change the past (and even then, the movies have hinted that you still cant)"
I really didn't know where to put this, so I'll just put it here.
Didn't know if it was a good idea to necro one of those threads, but yeah. My bad.I really didn't know where to put this, so I'll just put it here.
Um...maybe any one of the several threads that are actually about Mike leaving the band?
I don't see anything wrong with MP's words. If anything, he's defending himself against all the baseless accusations people make about him without even knowing the facts, as he says. I've seen plenty of those accusations in this forum and if I were Mike I would definitely feel ofended about people's animosity towards me, and try to get things straight.
MP: I felt *DT* needed a break...we were doing a constant write/record/tour cycle for over 20 years(of which I oversaw every aspect and was burnt out)and I felt the routine of the endless cycle(and our internal relationships)were getting stale and needed a little break to shake things up and re-inspire...INEVER*never* said that *I* needed a break from playing/creating/working.."
On the subject of:"JP & JR stated you wanted the band to just stop for 5 years...how could you expect them to do that?":
MP: Let's just drop it and move on...The Serenity Prayer has taught me to "accept the things I cannot change"...and until somebody builds a time machine, you cannot change the past (and even then, the movies have hinted that you still cant)"
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Didn't know if it was a good idea to necro one of those threads, but yeah. My bad.I really didn't know where to put this, so I'll just put it here.
Um...maybe any one of the several threads that are actually about Mike leaving the band?
Probably because that's what happens when his fans are ignorant and assume whatever they want. He is happy, he just wanted to make the message as bold and clear as possible so people will stop making accusations about him.Agreed.
No matter how many times JP and JR try to state otherwise, relations in DT camp were not healthy. Certainly when you after more than 20 years together choose to have your lawyer do the communications with the other part.For what it's worth, Mike, I'm really looking forward to Adrenaline Mob.
JP feels "heartbroken", bullshit (?)
No matter how many times JP and JR try to state otherwise, relations in DT camp were not healthy. Certainly when you after more than 20 years together choose to have your lawyer do the communications with the other part.
JP feels "heartbroken", bullshit (?)
I've arrived at a point where I'm just taking notice of what MP has to say about his departure and nothing more. It's more or less just more of the same imo.
All eyes on DT, I guess. At least, that's what applies to me.
You guys will talk about literally anything if it gets brought up.
I think that Chipotle is a boring restaurant with fairly tasteless burritos. Seriously, there's like no flavor.
You guys will talk about literally anything if it gets brought up.
I think that Chipotle is a boring restaurant with fairly tasteless burritos. Seriously, there's like no flavor.
You guys will talk about literally anything if it gets brought up.
I think that Chipotle is a boring restaurant with fairly tasteless burritos. Seriously, there's like no flavor.
You guys will talk about literally anything if it gets brought up.Indeed and I do agree with the Chipotle comment. :lol
I think that Chipotle is a boring restaurant with fairly tasteless burritos. Seriously, there's like no flavor.
You guys will talk about literally anything if it gets brought up.
I think that Chipotle is a boring restaurant with fairly tasteless burritos. Seriously, there's like no flavor.
Aniland, stop trolling threads. Consider this your warning.
Probably because that's what happens when his fans are ignorant and assume whatever they want. He is happy, he just wanted to make the message as bold and clear as possible so people will stop making accusations about him.
I don't think Portnoy has handled any of this well, but I'm still going to feel so sorry for him if the new DT album is received really well.
I thought it was interesting he wrote "...for the sake of not losing my own band." He still thinks of DT as his band. I also kinda think he feels more personally betrayed by this then he's letting on (which doesn't seem possible, I know). Like, if the level of bitterness we're seeing is him trying to restrain himself, then what else is stored away in there that we're not seeing.
If MP's still co-producer of DT11, do any of the following things happen?
- MP going to JM and saying "Look, I'm sorry about the lyric rule. It was a dick move. I want you to feel like we see your lyrics as a positive to the band and not an imposition."
- MP letting JLB record the vocals in Canada with Richard Chycki.
- MP saying to the band members "Hey, we should be less of an LTE style jam band and try writing our material with a stronger sense of introspection and personal depth."
- MP deciding to rededicate himself to the art and craft of drumming to move his playing up a level in technical and creative progression.
- Andy Wallace mixing the album.
Certainly when you after more than 20 years together choose to have your lawyer do the communications with the other part.I don't think using lawyers was in an ill-favored manner. If your the guys of DT, you're dealing with a huge franchise, and there's so much that could go wrong if things go badly. I'd assume using lawyers was to provide a completely profesional atmosphere, so that nothing could go wrong. And I'm sure there's other legal things involved that I'm unaware of, but I'm sure a 20 year band, that has made near millions in their career, can't simply deal with a situation like MP without there being legal aspects involved.
JP feels "heartbroken", bullshit (?)
If MP's still co-producer of DT11, do any of the following things happen?
Reap', what do any of the things you posted have to do with Mike Portnoy leaving Dream Theater?
- MP going to JM and saying "Look, I'm sorry about the lyric rule. It was a dick move. I want you to feel like we see your lyrics as a positive to the band and not an imposition."
1. Who says anyone in the band felt it was a dick move? And besides that, JP has NOT gone to JM and said any of the above, so why are you even making such a scenario up to begin with?
- MP letting JLB record the vocals in Canada with Richard Chycki.
1. How do we know he wouldn't have? 2. How do we know James would have wanted to? 3. How do we know whether or not this is a good thing since we haven't even heard a single note of James' singing yet? 4. Perhaps most importantly, since there was no problem with James' album performances in past anyway, why does it even matter?
- MP saying to the band members "Hey, we should be less of an LTE style jam band and try writing our material with a stronger sense of introspection and personal depth."
Wait...what? ??? I don't get this. 1. They aren't an LTE style jam band. 2. I'm not aware of this fictional conversation happening since MP left.
- MP deciding to rededicate himself to the art and craft of drumming to move his playing up a level in technical and creative progression.
Wait...so...you're saying that MP has somehow "rededicated himself" (whatever that means) after leaving DT, and this is something different and beneficial? Kinda similar to the last point. I think you're just making things up now.
- Andy Wallace mixing the album.
No idea. But why not?
I thought it was interesting he wrote "...for the sake of not losing my own band." He still thinks of DT as his band. I also kinda think he feels more personally betrayed by this then he's letting on (which doesn't seem possible, I know). Like, if the level of bitterness we're seeing is him trying to restrain himself, then what else is stored away in there that we're not seeing.
This rings true to me. MP has truely seemed more bitter about this situation than the others. Even these most recent comments reveal that he felt personal betrayal over this situation, instead of a professional disagreement over the direction of the band. I wish him luck with his current projects, hopefully he can find a group to play with for a long time to come, I'm not sure if Adrenaline Mob will be that group or not.
In general though, I will follow MP, but DT is the focus for me and when he announced his leaving I was far more concerned about whether DT continued that if MP did...
(Oh and Chipotle rocks, Aniland once again proves his ignorance :loser:)
On top of that, I get the impression... well, this is pure conjecture, but we all know that Mike Portnoy isn't the kind of person to do things by halves. To quote the Chaos in Motion doc, he'll want the rock turned up to 10, and the suck and gay turned all the way down to 0. And that was kind of borne out in everything he did in the producer's seat:I don't think Portnoy has handled any of this well, but I'm still going to feel so sorry for him if the new DT album is received really well.
I'll feel bad for him. But sorry for him? Not really. If MP's still co-producer of DT11, do any of the following things happen?:
- MP going to JM and saying "Look, I'm sorry about the lyric rule. It was a dick move. I want you to feel like we see your lyrics as a positive to the band and not an imposition."
- MP letting JLB record the vocals in Canada with Richard Chycki.
- MP saying to the band members "Hey, we should be less of an LTE style jam band and try writing our material with a stronger sense of introspection and personal depth."
- MP deciding to rededicate himself to the art and craft of drumming to move his playing up a level in technical and creative progression.
- Andy Wallace mixing the album.
I guess over time I'm having a harder time accepting MP's complaints of the band getting stale when he seems to have been the primary cause of that staleness. Obviously, if the music sucks all of this will be moot, but surely everyone has noticed how DT's turned into almost a new band. The potential in the other four guys for the change MP wanted was clearly in them. So why didn't he do what a leader is supposed to do and bring it out of them instead of suggesting they go on a hiatus? In what he considered the band's most dire moment he wanted to run away and hope it would sort itself out? Bullshit, that's like the opposite of leadership.
“In a way, Mike leaving really did show us that there is another side to Dream Theater that maybe we never would have discovered if something like this hadn’t gone down. It’s really opened up a whole new avenue, with us realizing some of our wants and needs and having some of out opinions being fulfilled. If this hadn’t happened we wouldn’t have known all this potential is here.” - JLB
https://www.bravewords.com/news/163672
...I can't help but wonder if we might start to see more of the grey areas again now that he's gone.
DreaAye - I've always said that the big and bolshy sound has been DT playing to their strengths and they're stronger when they do it, but I think that now DT's a different entity, their strengths may well have shifted. And I'm really digging the prospect of the grey stuff....I can't help but wonder if we might start to see more of the grey areas again now that he's gone.
When you put it that way, I have to say I'm on board with your theory, which suits me just fine.
I thought it was interesting he wrote "...for the sake of not losing my own band." He still thinks of DT as his band. I also kinda think he feels more personally betrayed by this then he's letting on (which doesn't seem possible, I know). Like, if the level of bitterness we're seeing is him trying to restrain himself, then what else is stored away in there that we're not seeing.
This rings true to me. MP has truely seemed more bitter about this situation than the others. Even these most recent comments reveal that he felt personal betrayal over this situation, instead of a professional disagreement over the direction of the band. I wish him luck with his current projects, hopefully he can find a group to play with for a long time to come, I'm not sure if Adrenaline Mob will be that group or not.
In general though, I will follow MP, but DT is the focus for me and when he announced his leaving I was far more concerned about whether DT continued that if MP did...
(Oh and Chipotle rocks, Aniland once again proves his ignorance :loser:)
I'm concerned because of a lyric in Adrenaline Mob about how "I'm far better off than I ever was with you." Uh oh, Mike, you didn't...
I'm not allowed to like Chipotle; best friend works at Moe's.
“In a way, Mike leaving really did show us that there is another side to Dream Theater that maybe we never would have discovered if something like this hadn’t gone down. It’s really opened up a whole new avenue, with us realizing some of our wants and needs and having some of out opinions being fulfilled. If this hadn’t happened we wouldn’t have known all this potential is here.” - JLB
https://www.bravewords.com/news/163672
Indeed.“In a way, Mike leaving really did show us that there is another side to Dream Theater that maybe we never would have discovered if something like this hadn’t gone down. It’s really opened up a whole new avenue, with us realizing some of our wants and needs and having some of out opinions being fulfilled. If this hadn’t happened we wouldn’t have known all this potential is here.” - JLB
https://www.bravewords.com/news/163672
Very interesting to read :yarr
Why even reply to those comments on Facebook. Why would he care?I think he's tired of people making false accusations about him, and he was just defending himself. A perfectly valid attitude IMO.
I thought it was interesting he wrote "...for the sake of not losing my own band." He still thinks of DT as his band. I also kinda think he feels more personally betrayed by this then he's letting on (which doesn't seem possible, I know). Like, if the level of bitterness we're seeing is him trying to restrain himself, then what else is stored away in there that we're not seeing.
I thought it was interesting he wrote "...for the sake of not losing my own band." He still thinks of DT as his band.What I understand is that at that moment, when he felt he had a fair chance to rejoin, he still thought DT was his band.
I threw that scenario out there because I doubt JM would have ever written lyrics for DT again with MP in the band unless something like that happened.Wow, do people still write $#¡t stuff like this? Amazing. You seem to forget that Myung said he would write lyrics again in October 2009, almost 1 year before Mike left. I'm not an MP fanboy,and don't take this personal (you just gave me a perfect example) it's just that I can't stand people disregarding facts and making things up just to speak bullshit about cool guys like MP. And I think it's poeple with attitudes like yours, who for some reason seem to have a personal animosity against someone the've never met who make him write his FB posts.
I think he's tired of people making false accusations about him, and he was just defending himself. A perfectly valid attitude IMO.
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Well, I see how someone could see it the way you do, it's a perfectly valid position. It's just that I feel many people don't like him and make up some stuff just to put him in a negative light while saying they don't really mean to hurt him. Just read this forum and you'll find lots of posts like "I can't prove it, but I'm sure Mike told Eddie who the new drummer is..." or "I have no evidence of this, but I can see Mike shutting down JM and not giving him any space, he was guilty of James not feeling well in the band", or "I don't really know him but it wouldn't surprise me if MP wanted DT to fail to prove he's right",or "I like Mike but it was his fault that DT's music grew stale", etc., basically blaming him for everything they think DT did wrong; and those come out as low blows and cheap shots IMO. I admit he might be only making the situation worse, but if I was him I would be tired of all that crap, too.I think he's tired of people making false accusations about him, and he was just defending himself. A perfectly valid attitude IMO.
But why is he defending himself if the information is already out there? The frequency at which he has to explain himself is akin to that of that one person who out loud goes "well I didn't want to say this but..." at meetings and the like. Who knows if there even was any real provocations but every time things seem to die down to some level of apathy another new quote like this comes across and MP's choice of words, as emotionally driven as they are, almost always cast him in a negative light. He's becoming his own worst enemy. And based on the DT side of the story I don't see where there are any false accusations.
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Yes, I'm an ass. And you're now banned. See you later.
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In fairness, while you're right inasmuch as the amount of speculation is ridiculous, and MP is being made a pariah for countless things that there's no evidence he was involved in... I think there's probably an element of truth to "it was his fault that DT's music grew stale." When Mike was the band leader, although he did eventually recognise the need to make a change, he obstinately refused to change anything about the way they worked. JM suggested jamming like when they were kids and he shot it down, he refused to work with a producer (not changed, but JP was at least open to it), he insisted on keeping the writing room mentality rather than letting demos through the net, he'd work with the same people each time... he wasn't particularly doing much to get the band doing anything new.Well, I see how someone could see it the way you do, it's a perfectly valid position. It's just that I feel many people don't like him and make up some stuff just to put him in a negative light while saying they don't really mean to hurt him. Just read this forum and you'll find lots of posts like "I can't prove it, but I'm sure Mike told Eddie who the new drummer is..." or "I have no evidence of this, but I can see Mike shutting down JM and not giving him any space, he was guilty of James not feeling well in the band", or "I don't really know him but it wouldn't surprise me if MP wanted DT to fail to prove he's right",or "I like Mike but it was his fault that DT's music grew stale", etc., basically blaming him for everything they think DT did wrong; and those come out as low blows and cheap shots IMO. I admit he might be only making the situation worse, but if I was him I would be tired of all that crap, too.I think he's tired of people making false accusations about him, and he was just defending himself. A perfectly valid attitude IMO.
But why is he defending himself if the information is already out there? The frequency at which he has to explain himself is akin to that of that one person who out loud goes "well I didn't want to say this but..." at meetings and the like. Who knows if there even was any real provocations but every time things seem to die down to some level of apathy another new quote like this comes across and MP's choice of words, as emotionally driven as they are, almost always cast him in a negative light. He's becoming his own worst enemy. And based on the DT side of the story I don't see where there are any false accusations.
...and even then, they had their lawyers respond to me...they didnt even do it themselves!!
Why do you think that asking this is a good idea?EDIT: Personal attacks on anyone on this forum, but especially the mod staff, will not be tolerated.
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What did he say?
I'm interested, too, and don't know why it wouldn't be a good idea.Why do you think that asking this is a good idea?EDIT: Personal attacks on anyone on this forum, but especially the mod staff, will not be tolerated.
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What did he say?
;D
Hello to you all!!!
Im from Greece!!I m new here...
2 august dream theater will be here!!Lets hope for 1 or 2 songs from the new album!!
;D
Hello to you all!!!
Im from Greece!!I m new here...
2 august dream theater will be here!!Lets hope for 1 or 2 songs from the new album!!
;DHello and welcome!
Hello to you all!!!
Im from Greece!!I m new here...
2 august dream theater will be here!!Lets hope for 1 or 2 songs from the new album!!
He posted a lot of off-topic stuff, then bosky moved his off-topic posts, then Aniland got mad and directed a profanity-laden post at bosky.I'm interested, too, and don't know why it wouldn't be a good idea.Why do you think that asking this is a good idea?EDIT: Personal attacks on anyone on this forum, but especially the mod staff, will not be tolerated.
Yes, I'm an ass. And you're now banned. See you later.
What did he say?
"He's banned because he said something wrong but I'll not say what it was"
vs.
"He's banned because he said: $foo"
Compare. And take into consideration that we're regular members who can also be potentially banned, so specific examples of trespasses can give us a better idea of what to rather avoid.
He posted a lot of off-topic stuff, which he was warned about for being off-topic, then bosky moved his off-topic posts because people kept responding off topic, then Aniland got mad and directed a profanity-laden post at bosky.
Should be artwork soon.The new DT site is traditionally updated on the week of release, I think.
Should be new official DT site soon.
Maybe track lengths and hopefully a teaser and a single.
Sept will be a big music month with Opeth, DT, Matheos/Arch. When 3 highly anticipated albums are released so
close together it's sometimes difficult to give proper attention to them all...but I'll damn sure try :tup
Should be new official DT site soon.
So 12 days until we hear new material, if they don't release the single before then!
Should be new official DT site soon.
Judging from past history, probably not until a little after release date, unless Itchy suddenly becomes motivated to actually do his job.So 12 days until we hear new material, if they don't release the single before then!
I think a single before then is unlikely. But you never know.
Should be new official DT site soon.
Judging from past history, probably not until a little after release date, unless Itchy suddenly becomes motivated to actually do his job.So 12 days until we hear new material, if they don't release the single before then!
I think a single before then is unlikely. But you never know.
Hey Bosk, since I'm kinda still a new member, do you change the skin of DTF every time a new albums comes out?
Hoping to hear a single before then. Would concert bootlegs be considered "leaks"?
New artwork soon, though. Really looking forward to that.
New artwork soon, though. Really looking forward to that.
It's official?
Hoping to hear a single before then. Would concert bootlegs be considered "leaks"?
No. As in the past, if the band comes out and says that they feel strongly that certain performances not be shared, I will take that into consideration. But generally speaking, if someone posts something from a show, that's fine.
I hope they will relase single in next few days and play it live on this tourHoping to hear a single before then. Would concert bootlegs be considered "leaks"?
No. As in the past, if the band comes out and says that they feel strongly that certain performances not be shared, I will take that into consideration. But generally speaking, if someone posts something from a show, that's fine.
So the first we hear one of the new songs might be live? That's an interesting change.
Well, it's official that the album will have artwork.New artwork soon, though. Really looking forward to that.
It's official?
Well, it's official that the album will have artwork.New artwork soon, though. Really looking forward to that.
It's official?
Well, it's official that the album will have artwork.
Unless there's a dramatic turn of events.
Well, it's official that the album will have artwork.New artwork soon, though. Really looking forward to that.
It's official?
Unless there's a dramatic turn of events.
(https://i55.tinypic.com/p99uv.jpg)
Well, it's official that the album will have artwork.New artwork soon, though. Really looking forward to that.
It's official?
Unless there's a dramatic turn of events.
Maybe I'm weird, but change "Dream Theater" to the DT font and throw the Majesty symbol on there somewhere and I'd actually kinda like it.I will admit, though I made it as a joke, I do think that it wouldn't be a bad cover.
Maybe I'm weird, but change "Dream Theater" to the DT font and throw the Majesty symbol on there somewhere and I'd actually kinda like it.I will admit, though I made it as a joke, I do think that it wouldn't be a bad cover.
Edit: Just to see what it would look like;
(https://i54.tinypic.com/2q176o2.jpg)
(https://i56.tinypic.com/t8677p.jpg)
It could probably be polished up a bit if someone else wants to take a stab at it.
Oy vey.Well, it's official that the album will have artwork.New artwork soon, though. Really looking forward to that.
It's official?
Unless there's a dramatic turn of events.
Hoping to hear a single before then. Would concert bootlegs be considered "leaks"?
No. As in the past, if the band comes out and says that they feel strongly that certain performances not be shared, I will take that into consideration. But generally speaking, if someone posts something from a show, that's fine.
So the first we hear one of the new songs might be live? That's an interesting change.
(https://i56.tinypic.com/t8677p.jpg)
It could probably be polished up a bit if someone else wants to take a stab at it.
[White version]
Outstanding!! Thanks for doing that. I think it looks great. The b/w is too obvious and that's a nice shade of blue.
(https://*snip*)
It could probably be polished up a bit if someone else wants to take a stab at it.
That's really cool man. Nice job.[White version]
Sorry, I didn't see this one until now. Thank you. Also a cool cover.
So the actual artwork is going to be revealed soon? When can we expect more details, and maybe a single?
How can this be?
How can this be?
An accidental ToT reference xD
How can this be?
An accidental ToT reference xD
Why is he the chosen one?
I feel like they're judging us.Not us. Just you.
I'd love it if everyone else was seeing a picture of them beaming broadly after a successful day of rehearsing, while I've got them leering out at me through my laptop like I've just killed their bassist.I feel like they're judging us.Not us. Just you.
It took a week to organize and set up the equipment for the upcoming tour. I've not seen that much equipment in a building for one band ever! We tried the songs a bit and playing them with the guys rather than the CD's was so much fun I can't explain it :):)
It took a week to organize and set up the equipment for the upcoming tour. I've not seen that much equipment in a building for one band ever! We tried the songs a bit and playing them with the guys rather than the CD's was so much fun I can't explain it :):)
I can't wait to hear Mangini and JLB :hefdaddyQuote
It took a week to organize and set up the equipment for the upcoming tour. I've not seen that much equipment in a building for one band ever! We tried the songs a bit and playing them with the guys rather than the CD's was so much fun I can't explain it :):)
I can't wait for the first bootlegs of the European tour...Mangini really seems like he will be on fire for this...
A dream within a dream.... theater.I feel like they're judging us.Not us. Just you.
A dream within a dream.... theater.I feel like they're judging us.Not us. Just you.
With the last album, when I believe they played AROP before the release, was the footage/audio quality of them playing it decent?They played AROP before the album's release, but the single was released as a free download before the tour started. So it never really factored into it.
Speaking about the music in the new album...
When they released the drummer audition, people were saying, ''this could be potential riffs from the new album'', and I was thinking ''Oh, c'mon... they haven't even entered the studio (at the time of the recording)''
But, I don't know, this little riff caught my attention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vaDfcKzLbY
Got to minutes 08:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677UAyq4Jig&feature=related
Go to minute 2:10
The first video is from the auditions (Recorded last year), and the second one is from Tcelectronics... early january...
Maybe... :metal
Speaking about the music in the new album...
When they released the drummer audition, people were saying, ''this could be potential riffs from the new album'', and I was thinking ''Oh, c'mon... they haven't even entered the studio (at the time of the recording)''
But, I don't know, this little riff caught my attention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vaDfcKzLbY
Got to minutes 08:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677UAyq4Jig&feature=related
Go to minute 2:10
The first video is from the auditions (Recorded last year), and the second one is from Tcelectronics... early january...
Maybe... :metal
Very, very nice find.
Agreed, nice find there.Indeed, it is. I'm really hoping that riff is somewhere on the new album.
That's some tasty riffage.
With a scepter and a... cmon cut it out :D
Any other side projects I should know about? I was just thinking that what if there is a Myung solo album Im not aware of or something :P... Bassnotes on a dream? It could show you how the bass notes of some DT songs would sound if you could actually hear them.. :D
I was just listening to Solitary Shell and thought it would be really nice if JP played some acoustic guitar in one of the songs from the new album.
Speaking about the music in the new album...JP obviously likes the riff if he's played it on two seperate videos. I can't see why he wouldn't want to put it on the album if he thinks its good.
When they released the drummer audition, people were saying, ''this could be potential riffs from the new album'', and I was thinking ''Oh, c'mon... they haven't even entered the studio (at the time of the recording)''
But, I don't know, this little riff caught my attention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vaDfcKzLbY
Got to minutes 08:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677UAyq4Jig&feature=related
Go to minute 2:10
The first video is from the auditions (Recorded last year), and the second one is from Tcelectronics... early january...
Maybe... :metal
With a scepter and a... cmon cut it out :D
Any other side projects I should know about? I was just thinking that what if there is a Myung solo album Im not aware of or something :P... Bassnotes on a dream? It could show you how the bass notes of some DT songs would sound if you could actually hear them.. :D
You have Explorers Club featuring JP and JLB. That one doesn't show up in there either.
Here's some new photos of DT from Rick Wenner at https://rickwenner.com/index.html#slideshow/portfolio/music?id=13Don't they look unified?
(https://rickwenner.com/wp-content/oqey_gallery/0/gallery_5/galimg/rickwenner_nyc_dreamtheater.jpg)
Wooooooah look at that tricep:lol
Here's some new photos of DT from Rick Wenner at https://rickwenner.com/index.html#slideshow/portfolio/music?id=13Don't they look unified?
(https://rickwenner.com/wp-content/oqey_gallery/0/gallery_5/galimg/rickwenner_nyc_dreamtheater.jpg)
Might be purely me projecting onto it, but it's looks more "even" than usual. James LaBrie at the front, John Petrucci watching on from the sidelines...
In other opinions, seems as though they're revamping the BC&SL theme for this album (dark, black, grey)... since I assume these are promo pictures? Maybe an "undo, do-over" approach?It feels like there is more "color" in these ones than the BC&SL pics. It just feels more fresh. Well, that may be because they are pretty fresh but I don't know how to describe it.. they feel more orange.
they feel more orange.
they feel more orange.
Guido Theater
In other opinions, seems as though they're revamping the BC&SL theme for this album (dark, black, grey)... since I assume these are promo pictures? Maybe an "undo, do-over" approach?It feels like there is more "color" in these ones than the BC&SL pics. It just feels more fresh. Well, that may be because they are pretty fresh but I don't know how to describe it.. they feel more orange.
they feel more orange.
Guido Theater
When life gives you oranges, you make orange frogs
When life gives you Jamesmen, you rage, rage against the dying of the light.they feel more orange.
Guido Theater
When life gives you oranges, you make orange frogs
When life gives you darklords, you make voodoo dolls
Finally normal band photo. On BC&SL they looked like some death/gothic/black metal band. Hopefully that won't happen again.
:D ;D damn straight!Finally normal band photo. On BC&SL they looked like some death/gothic/black metal band. Hopefully that won't happen again.
They looked like the walking dead.
Finally normal band photo. On BC&SL they looked like some death/gothic/black metal band. Hopefully that won't happen again.
They looked like the walking dead. All white and pasty. Now they have some color again! Life has been breathed back into DT!
.... okay bit of an overstatement maybe lol
You should feel weird for having an Emma Watson background in the first place.
feeling a little weird that i might be replacing my emma watson background with the band picture :rollinLikewise, 'cept Karen Gillan for James LaBrie.
Speaking of wallpapers...I had a little play about in Photoshop.
https://i56.tinypic.com/est9j7.jpg
..if this fits your resolution then you can use it!
Speaking of wallpapers...I had a little play about in Photoshop.Awesome! :metal
https://i56.tinypic.com/est9j7.jpg
..if this fits your resolution then you can use it!
Speaking of wallpapers...I had a little play about in Photoshop.It is like they are omnipotent beings watching us from the far reaches of the universe.
https://i56.tinypic.com/est9j7.jpg
..if this fits your resolution then you can use it!
great pictures, mangini fits right in. :tup
petrucci's arms are huge! :heart :biggrin:
is it known how much the dude can bench press?
I think he had a tweet once that said something about squatting 300.
And here it is
https://twitter.com/#!/JPetrucci/status/24409498235 (https://twitter.com/#!/JPetrucci/status/24409498235)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dramatic_Turn_of_Events
Anyone actually saw them lengths confirmed yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dramatic_Turn_of_Events
Anyone actually saw them lengths confirmed yet?
It's not that much for a squat. More impressive as a bench press.
If anyone knows the process of mixing and mastering, i was wondering how long could it take until the album is finished.
Of course the times are fake. One of them is 6:66.Could be true :P
Of course the times are fake. One of them is 6:66.
Of course the times are fake. One of them is 6:66.Could be true :P
though it probably isn't
Only DT are capable of adding 6 more seconds on to a minute. I believe it.
Oh crap...Of course the times are fake. One of them is 6:66.Could be true :P
though it probably isn't
You think it might be true that a song length could be 6:66, huh?
This album would be perfect for a drum-cam DVD
A DRUMatic Turn of Events.
Because it's so badass. :metalThis album would be perfect for a drum-cam DVD
A DRUMatic Turn of Events.
I think that line has been used like, 4-5 times now.
I don't want a 17 min song at all.I could live with a 17 min song, but then it has to be really good. Nice lyrics and very musical.
Exactly! :lolThe awesomeness that describes how much this name flows can not be described in words. Not even close.
I think the last one that flowed was Sysdrumatic Chaos, this one really flows
Was there one for BC&SL?I believe it was called Black Clouds and Silver Drumming
A Drumset to Remember
Black Drum and Silver Cymbals
I don't want a 17 min song at all. Especially if it has the name "Shaman's Trance". Terrible name for a long song. That one should be 5-7 min long.
that's.. lameThe cover was even more lame. MP sitting on a giant marshmallow giving what was deemed "The Prog Claw"
As long as the album doesn't consist entirely of 17-minute songs.
I'd still be down with 17 min long song :-\
I'd still be down with 17 min long song :-\
17 minutes is all I need.
that's.. lameThe cover was even more lame. MP sitting on a giant marshmallow giving what was deemed "The Prog Claw"
(https://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/b2e479654af03d19a4f90dee06b0a47b/2427835.jpg)
(https://rickwenner.com/wp-content/oqey_gallery/0/gallery_5/galimg/rickwenner_nyc_dreamtheater.jpg)
(https://rickwenner.com/wp-content/oqey_gallery/0/gallery_5/galimg/rickwenner_nyc_dreamtheater.jpg)
Probably not intentional at all, but it's funny, from left to right you have the newest members to the oldest members.
Probably not intentional at all, but it's funny, from left to right you have the newest members to the oldest members.
Now Lost Not Forgotten has all past members as lyricists :lol
funny how long songs used to be desired, now some people dont want anyIt's a scarcity thing. I don't think we collectively "like" a certain type of song any more than another - but on the heels of the long-song apocalypse of Black Clouds & Silver Linings, which succeeds an album featuring the 25-minute long In the Presence of Enemies (and the 15 minute long Ministry of Lost Souls), which is the direct successor to Octavarium, we're a little oversaturated on the sprawling epics as of right now.
Wow, wikipedia has suddenly got a lot more info than yesterday on the track listings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dramatic_Turn_of_EventsI really wish people would stop being dicks on the wikipedia page.
I dont think any of the track lengths are real tbh. Although I really hope OTBOA isnt 46 seconds long
Awesome pictures :metal I think I can safely say this is the best they have ever looked.
That JP pic :eek
Has JM been working out?
Also: Coming next will be the documentary photos in the recording studio.
Yay :)
Also: Coming next will be the documentary photos in the recording studio.
Yay :)
What? when?
https://blog.rickwenner.com/music/dream-theater-portraits/ (https://blog.rickwenner.com/music/dream-theater-portraits/) Read the blog :)
That new promo shot kind of reminded me of this one from BC&SL. Hopefully the days of horribly photoshopped backgrounds are done
(https://www.dispatch.com/wwwexportcontent/sites/dispatch/weekender/stories/2010/07/01/9a-music01-art-g0q90v13-1dream-theater---2---06-24-2010-large.jpg)
Not to mention the tour! That would be the peak of a memorable year!DAMN RIGHT :biggrin:
Not to mention the tour! That would be the peak of a memorable year!:metal
So, DT play in a week. Does this mean we will hear a new song or will they be at later shows?Considering the first few shows aren't festivals, I'd say we have a better chance of seeing a new song then.
Funny, everything seems better now in DT land. (Writing process, photographs, band dynamics). Now, if both the album art and album rock everything will be stellar. :hat
JP looks like...Like he's smiling in an effort to somehow hide the urge to kill everyone...
"It wouldn't take me any effort to kill you. It takes a constant effort for me to not kill everyone around me"
Have you Guys see JLB picture?? it is awesome !! one of his best shots IMO.I think its a good possibility as well. Both RR and DT have been ridiculously quiet about everything DT-related since they announced the tracklist.
Backing to topic about hearing a new song before the tour starts, I think that 80% YES ;)
Artwork and a track length announcement would be very much appreciated sometime in the next week before their first show with Mangini. I wouldn't complain if they posted a brand new single, either. I really just want the artwork and the track lengths.
I don't know where to put this, so Ill ask you guys here...When I first saw Mangini in "The Spirit Carries On" documentary, that's literally the first thing I thought of. I think that because I happen to be a huge fan of Brian Cox's presentations, etc.
https://i51.tinypic.com/2eyj1hx.jpg - does anyone else think Mike Mangini looks like Brian Cox (professor and ex-keyboardist of D-Ream)
I don't know where to put this, so Ill ask you guys here...
https://i51.tinypic.com/2eyj1hx.jpg - does anyone else think Mike Mangini looks like Brian Cox (professor and ex-keyboardist of D-Ream)
when you check the band photo within I&W, it looks like a glamband just post for they gaypride or whatever..... (the poses are...well.....)
^that was on BM a couple of days ago ...right? :-)BM? Apparently it was posted yesterday according to the June 26th date.
Some good ones for shooping?(https://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss37/ibloop/lamesjabrieandmangini.png)
https://blog.rickwenner.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/RickWenner_DreamTheater-15.jpg
Album artwork's a plane?It's about Lost and how the flight suddenly got stranded on a magical island.
Album artwork's a plane?It's about Lost and how the flight suddenly got stranded on a magical island.
Album artwork's a plane?It's about Lost and how the flight suddenly got stranded on a magical island.
gays I didn't quite watch lost's finaleu gay
so, did they ever find 'em or something?
gays I didn't quite watch lost's finale
so, did they ever find 'em or something?
I love how the artwork seems to be revealed bit by bit (if the background is part of the artwork, that is).
Just a pre-emptive thought about OtBoA - there's every chance that we'll hear this and have no idea whatsoever who the lyricist is.
That'll be interesting.
Just a pre-emptive thought about OtBoA - there's every chance that we'll hear this and have no idea whatsoever who the lyricist is.
That'll be interesting.
unless of course its about an army of angels battling a newly ressurected pharoahs. and
grotesque creatures battle
would it indeed be a part of the cover?Nah, just MP holding onto the rope trying to attack the plane..
than we have
a plane
air
and a rope
ok. what's next? Devin townsend?
Lol that's exactly what I thoughtwould it indeed be a part of the cover?Nah, just MP holding onto the rope trying to attack the plane..
than we have
a plane
air
and a rope
ok. what's next? Devin townsend?
In all honesty, if that is the cover, it looks really cheesy
That's probably just a cover for the single, not the actual album.
Wait... Am I the only one who received the email with the artwork uncensored?? :oThat's awful. It would be their worst album artwork.
(https://twilighttrain.de/images/dramaticturn_uncensored.jpg)
Wait... Am I the only one who received the email with the artwork uncensored?? :oThat's awful. It would be their worst album artwork.
(https://twilighttrain.de/images/dramaticturn_uncensored.jpg)
In the press release, the rope does not stretch across to the right side, so I doubt it is a tightropeThe rope actually does come all the way across. You can see it just a bit under the halfway point of the artwork (by height). It's faint, but its there. :)
Yep, it's going up and further, but the rope is on the other side of the artwork ;)In the press release, the rope does not stretch across to the right side, so I doubt it is a tightropeThe rope actually does come all the way across. You can see it just a bit under the halfway point of the artwork (by height). It's faint, but its there. :)
If it's real, than it's definately a departure from dark gloomy album covers.
EDIT: It's not real, someone posted it on JLB's facebook
If it's real, than it's definately a departure from dark gloomy album covers.
EDIT: It's not real, someone posted it on JLB's facebook
Regardless, it would be nice to finally have an album cover that doesn't seem so dismal.
The bird is actually pooping money. Unreal.
I assume the least interesting song on this album will be "This is the Life." Lyrics by Jordan Rudess. yes I said it.
Hahaha. Well said.I assume the least interesting song on this album will be "This is the Life." Lyrics by Jordan Rudess. yes I said it.
"This is the Liiiiiiiife!"
"On The Roooooooad!"
Damn it, all the drummer audition videos were released at 1900, always when am just getting in at work. Same thing this time, why do they hate me so much? xdIt's just because that happens to also be 11am EST here in the USA.
i believe we are in for a total treat with this album. DT arent the band to put their best songs out first, so i expect a quality album after hearing OTBOA
I assume the least interesting song on this album will be "This is the Life." Lyrics by Jordan Rudess. yes I said it.
"This is the Liiiiiiiife!"
"On The Roooooooad!"
i believe we are in for a total treat with this album. DT arent the band to put their best songs out first, so i expect a quality album after hearing OTBOA
i believe we are in for a total treat with this album. DT arent the band to put their best songs out first, so i expect a quality album after hearing OTBOA
Very good point. If this song is the "A Rite of Passage" of the album then I would imagine that the other eight songs will be considerably better.
I can't hear this until I get home (assuming I can't wait until 9/13) but if it's true that MM's performance is underwhelming I'll be very disappointed. The first track of the album NEEDED to have jaw-dropping drum parts.
I can't hear this until I get home (assuming I can't wait until 9/13) but if it's true that MM's performance is underwhelming I'll be very disappointed. The first track of the album NEEDED to have jaw-dropping drum parts.
It's not underwhelming, it's completely fine.
I can't hear this until I get home (assuming I can't wait until 9/13) but if it's true that MM's performance is underwhelming I'll be very disappointed. The first track of the album NEEDED to have jaw-dropping drum parts.
It's not underwhelming, it's completely fine.
That's fine, but I want to be blown away by MM so I won't miss MP.
That's fine, but I want to be blown away by MM so I won't miss MP.
everyone listen to the drumming at 2:10 - 2:30
once people see him doing that live and not hearing it from a youtube mix, they will like mangini's drumming on it alot more
I totally disagree, Reap. After a couple close listens, I think the drums on this are easily more interesting that anything Portnoy has done on any of his projects in recent years.everyone listen to the drumming at 2:10 - 2:30
once people see him doing that live and not hearing it from a youtube mix, they will like mangini's drumming on it alot more
Likewise, those really fast one-handed cymbal hits at 3:27-ish?
Yeah, I doubt Portnoy can do that.
The drumming on this song is so good. Mangini's cymbal action, so far, is such a noticeable improvement over Portnoy's. During the chorus, like 5:25-50 for example, Mangini's playing a bunch of different cymbals and it sounds awesome. Then, after that over Jordan's clean piano solo, he's doing a high hat but he's letting it open and close and doing some other things and also hitting other cymbals, all while keeping the beat interesting with the kick patterns. Only during Petrucci's solo does he switch his cymbal playing to just playing in 4/4, which is fine because John is supposed to take the spotlight there anyway.
Going by Portnoy's performances on the last couple albums, I'd imagine he'd play the entire part I'm talking about above by simply hitting the high-hat as if it were a metronome. Sure, there would have been some tastey fills. But with Portnoy recently, it seemed he'd be doing something really basic, or he'd be doing a cool fill but the cymbal playing wouldn't be that great. Likewise, maybe the cymbal playing would be good but the beat would be nothing special. Mangini can do it all at once. I've got a feeling we're gonna notice how much of a better player he is when the new record comes out :biggrin:
I just listened through the song, with special attention on the drums and it was an incredibly rewarding experience. I think the way the drums are mixed, is to compliment the music rather than to outshine other instruments (that has happened before in DT). There are some insane drum patters in here.
I just listened through the song, with special attention on the drums and it was an incredibly rewarding experience. I think the way the drums are mixed, is to compliment the music rather than to outshine other instruments (that has happened before in DT). There are some insane drum patters in here.
Maybe, but I never complain, and I think the mix is not that good. I like the song though.
Drums are way too low and the both the guitar and drums sound muddy in many parts.
Listening to Wither right now, and the mix is awesome.
I just listened through the song, with special attention on the drums and it was an incredibly rewarding experience. I think the way the drums are mixed, is to compliment the music rather than to outshine other instruments (that has happened before in DT). There are some insane drum patters in here.
Maybe, but I never complain, and I think the mix is not that good. I like the song though.
Drums are way too low and the both the guitar and drums sound muddy in many parts.
Listening to Wither right now, and the mix is awesome.
Well, I just listened to some BC&SL tunes from youtube and middle frequencies sound muddy as well. Coincidence?
Do not talk about how an album was mastered or mixed with a youtube mp3 as reference. I'm not referring to you in particular, but everyone who's talking about the mix. You will be able to tell me "lol no u were wrong, the mix sucks!" when the album gets released and we have a proper listen. But hey, not yet. :D
Wait wait wait till you hear the rest of the DT album... oh my... but please enjoy On the Backs of Angels as it was my 1st recorded song and I can't wait until you hear it in person! There aren't enough hours in the day for me before leaving for Rome. I'm learning a HUGE DT epic (last min. add) to throw in this tour :) ahhhhh!!!
QuoteWait wait wait till you hear the rest of the DT album... oh my... but please enjoy On the Backs of Angels as it was my 1st recorded song and I can't wait until you hear it in person! There aren't enough hours in the day for me before leaving for Rome. I'm learning a HUGE DT epic (last min. add) to throw in this tour :) ahhhhh!!!
From Mike Mangini!!
Huge DT epic.... ACOS?!?!?!
QuoteWait wait wait till you hear the rest of the DT album... oh my... but please enjoy On the Backs of Angels as it was my 1st recorded song and I can't wait until you hear it in person! There aren't enough hours in the day for me before leaving for Rome. I'm learning a HUGE DT epic (last min. add) to throw in this tour :) ahhhhh!!!
From Mike Mangini!!
Huge DT epic.... ACOS?!?!?!
ACOS. its gotta beeee
lol it has more views than the Korn videoIt's because the DT fanbase is fucking insane.
QuoteWait wait wait till you hear the rest of the DT album... oh my... but please enjoy On the Backs of Angels as it was my 1st recorded song and I can't wait until you hear it in person! There aren't enough hours in the day for me before leaving for Rome. I'm learning a HUGE DT epic (last min. add) to throw in this tour :) ahhhhh!!!
From Mike Mangini!!
Huge DT epic.... ACOS?!?!?!
ACOS. its gotta beeee
lol it has more views than the Korn videoIs it really a surprise? I'm more surprised about the fact that Korn still exists, I haven't heard about them in ages.
8V I think. It fits with the photos we've seen of JR using the lap steel in his keyboard rig.
He wrote the lyrics, but it was a long time ago. That is a true DT song, not just an MP song.QuoteWait wait wait till you hear the rest of the DT album... oh my... but please enjoy On the Backs of Angels as it was my 1st recorded song and I can't wait until you hear it in person! There aren't enough hours in the day for me before leaving for Rome. I'm learning a HUGE DT epic (last min. add) to throw in this tour :) ahhhhh!!!
From Mike Mangini!!
Huge DT epic.... ACOS?!?!?!
ACOS. its gotta beeee
i dunno thats kinda Portnoys personal song it might bother a few fans. Im guessing Octavarium, its a better song anyways
does anybody remember JR asking what our favorite DT epic was on twitter? i could swear this happened
does anybody remember JR asking what our favorite DT epic was on twitter? i could swear this happened
I remember him saying that he had just discovered again how amazing Octavarium was. And yes, I definitely recall that happening. It was, like, February, wasn't it?
Holy cow. If you copy and paste the high res image it's really huge. And you get get a close look at all the details. Beautiful.
Holy cow. If you copy and paste the high res image it's really huge. And you get get a close look at all the details. Beautiful.
Haha. There's a gap on the far left end of the rope.
Another Syme? It kinda has that look to it.
Isn't it the tail of a plane? Not a wing?
I assumed it was a wing because I assumed the plane was turning, thus having one wing above the clouds. But now that you mention it, maybe it does look more like a tail than a wing in general shape. I'm not sure.
Is Mike the clown (head in the clouds?) on the tight rope?! While the DT flying machine flies on?
THE METAPHORNot just the metaphor, but the rooooooope
:lolTHE METAPHORNot just the metaphor, but the rooooooope
THE METAPHORNot just the metaphor, but the RORORORORO(ope)
Its actually a pretty sad cover. The rope snapped and he doesn't know it, while a plane is about to pass through the break, and witness but it won'tHm...so the clown will fall on the back of the plane and take off higher than ever?
QuoteWait wait wait till you hear the rest of the DT album... oh my... but please enjoy On the Backs of Angels as it was my 1st recorded song and I can't wait until you hear it in person! There aren't enough hours in the day for me before leaving for Rome. I'm learning a HUGE DT epic (last min. add) to throw in this tour :) ahhhhh!!!
From Mike Mangini!!
Huge DT epic.... ACOS?!?!?!
ACOS. its gotta beeee
i dunno thats kinda Portnoys personal song it might bother a few fans. Im guessing Octavarium, its a better song anyways
I actually quite like it. I mean, it's not amazing, but (1) it's not busy, and is pretty simple, and (2) the colour scheme is very bright. These things make me happy.
Really, what's the word... mediocre? album cover. I mean, when the reaction to the music is AWESOME!!! and the cover gets plenty of "LOL!!!" you gotta say it. As of now: Music = Good; Artwork = Bad.
Oh well, as long as the rest of the music is good, it's all OK.
Well I am DTF's resident optimist, so it's to be expected!
Its actually a pretty sad cover. The rope snapped and he doesn't know it, while a plane is about to pass through the break, and witness but it won'tHe's anyway bound to die due to the lack of oxygen at that altitude, so the snapped rope may actually come as a relief.
Well I am DTF's resident optimist, so it's to be expected!
:lol Indeed. People like to question you on whether there's anything you actually like, and a few times I've been asked whether there's anything I dislike.Well I am DTF's resident optimist, so it's to be expected!
I guess you're my official foil then. ;)
and a few times I've been asked whether there's anything I dislike.Well I am DTF's resident optimist, so it's to be expected!
I guess you're my official foil then. ;)
:lol Yeah, but you're not the first to ask that of me.and a few times I've been asked whether there's anything I dislike.Well I am DTF's resident optimist, so it's to be expected!
I guess you're my official foil then. ;)
I can testify to this. :P
:lol Indeed. People like to question you on whether there's anything you actually like, and a few times I've been asked whether there's anything I dislike.Well I am DTF's resident optimist, so it's to be expected!
I guess you're my official foil then. ;)
Well, I don't dislike it at all, in fact I enjoy it greatly. I just don't find it hugely exciting, and definitely one of DT's weaker albums.:lol Indeed. People like to question you on whether there's anything you actually like, and a few times I've been asked whether there's anything I dislike.Well I am DTF's resident optimist, so it's to be expected!
I guess you're my official foil then. ;)
You quite dislike Scenes From a Memory! That's more than enough, I suppose :lol
Well, I hope you dislike at least Constant Motion or Friday :biggrin:Well, I don't dislike it at all, in fact I enjoy it greatly. I just don't find it hugely exciting, and definitely one of DT's weaker albums.:lol Indeed. People like to question you on whether there's anything you actually like, and a few times I've been asked whether there's anything I dislike.Well I am DTF's resident optimist, so it's to be expected!
I guess you're my official foil then. ;)
You quite dislike Scenes From a Memory! That's more than enough, I suppose :lol
Fixed the quoting for you.Dude, that song is awful. If it weren't for the instrumental section, it would have no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
And Constant Motion is a good song, definitely not one of DT's worst as some people seem to claim.
The riff rocks, and I enjoy the back and forth in it.Well hey, if you like it, that's all that matters.
And yeah the instrumental/solo section is really groovy and takes it from maybe a 5/10 up to a 7/10.
What does he mean by 'epic'?QuoteWait wait wait till you hear the rest of the DT album... oh my... but please enjoy On the Backs of Angels as it was my 1st recorded song and I can't wait until you hear it in person! There aren't enough hours in the day for me before leaving for Rome. I'm learning a HUGE DT epic (last min. add) to throw in this tour :) ahhhhh!!!
From Mike Mangini!!
Huge DT epic.... ACOS?!?!?!
CM is a 10/10 for me.:|
CM is a 10/10 for me.Wow, a TEN? It's the only DT song on an album I would consider really bad. 3/10 on a good day, mostly because it's DT. I get the thing about different tastes and all, but 10 for CM is way beyond what I can understand, no matter what glasses I'm wearing. Probably the most boring song in my music library, by any artist.
Not really much good music coming out these days
Not really much good music coming out these days, and everything on the radio is made by computer geeks. Hopefully ADTOE will be one of the best records in the next few years.You're missing out on a ton of great new music.
Well, within the genres I really like (which is actually quite many), there's like 1-5 good albums coming out each year. Not a lot IMO. I find most metal extremely boring though, so I might miss out on good acts within those genres. Most of the music that comes out these days just sound very familiar. There's not really been any significant development for the better or worse since the 90's, and therefore the new stuff just don't sound exciting. IMO of course. Bottom line, things have to be very, very good within its genre these days to be worth buying.Not really much good music coming out these days, and everything on the radio is made by computer geeks. Hopefully ADTOE will be one of the best records in the next few years.You're missing out on a ton of great new music.
Most of the music that comes out these days just sound very familiar. There's not really been any significant development for the better or worse since the 90's, and therefore the new stuff just don't sound exciting. IMO of course.
Not really much good music coming out these days
Are you kidding?! :lol
The riff rocks, and I enjoy the back and forth in it.
And yeah the instrumental/solo section is really groovy and takes it from maybe a 5/10 up to a 7/10.
Not really much good music coming out these days
Are you kidding?! :lol
No, dead serious. Name me one band that originated in this godawful millenium that will be remembered in 20 years like the bands of the 60s and 70s are.
Not really much good music coming out these days
Are you kidding?! :lol
No, dead serious. Name me one band that originated in this godawful millenium that will be remembered in 20 years like the bands of the 60s and 70s are.
Not really much good music coming out these days
Are you kidding?! :lol
No, dead serious. Name me one band that originated in this godawful millenium that will be remembered in 20 years like the bands of the 60s and 70s are.
Radiohead.
Also, music right now is better then ever. The number of quality bands making music these days is ridiculous. IMO :D
Not really much good music coming out these days
Are you kidding?! :lol
No, dead serious. Name me one band that originated in this godawful millenium that will be remembered in 20 years like the bands of the 60s and 70s are.
Radiohead.
Also, music right now is better then ever. The number of quality bands making music these days is ridiculous. IMO :D
Uh . . . Radiohead's first album was in 1993. I don't think you read my post.
Not really much good music coming out these days
Are you kidding?! :lol
No, dead serious. Name me one band that originated in this godawful millenium that will be remembered in 20 years like the bands of the 60s and 70s are.
Radiohead.
Also, music right now is better then ever. The number of quality bands making music these days is ridiculous. IMO :D
Lots of good stuff out there. If you look in the right places, you might not even stumble across a crappy artist. The problem is, I don't know ANYONE that actually likes that stuff. The closest thing to progressive rock I've seen in a friend's ipod is Muse. Anyways, is there a thread about good music? I always love most bands that DT fans recommend!Recommend me something :D
Well, within the genres I really like (which is actually quite many), there's like 1-5 good albums coming out each year. Not a lot IMO. I find most metal extremely boring though, so I might miss out on good acts within those genres. Most of the music that comes out these days just sound very familiar. There's not really been any significant development for the better or worse since the 90's, and therefore the new stuff just don't sound exciting. IMO of course. Bottom line, things have to be very, very good within its genre these days to be worth buying.Not really much good music coming out these days, and everything on the radio is made by computer geeks. Hopefully ADTOE will be one of the best records in the next few years.You're missing out on a ton of great new music.
I have a strong feeling Haken will become the new progressive cult following.
Well, within the genres I really like (which is actually quite many), there's like 1-5 good albums coming out each year. Not a lot IMO. I find most metal extremely boring though, so I might miss out on good acts within those genres. Most of the music that comes out these days just sound very familiar. There's not really been any significant development for the better or worse since the 90's, and therefore the new stuff just don't sound exciting. IMO of course. Bottom line, things have to be very, very good within its genre these days to be worth buying.Not really much good music coming out these days, and everything on the radio is made by computer geeks. Hopefully ADTOE will be one of the best records in the next few years.You're missing out on a ton of great new music.
Not to hijack the thread too much, but I pretty much agree with you. The past 3-4 years in music have been pretty dull for me, although 2000-2004 was very good. I have to dig really hard to find anything that interests me. It doesn't help that indie has become so big and I don't like almost any of it.
Name me one band that originated in this godawful millenium that will be remembered in 20 years like the bands of the 60s and 70s are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4trac3zPz8Does JP said that the 2nd leg will be in spring?Or my ears are misleading me ;)
mangini is such a cool dude
Name me one band that originated in this godawful millenium that will be remembered in 20 years like the bands of the 60s and 70s are.
Arcade Fire.
I absolutely LOVE Mike Mangini!! Dream Theater has a whole new world waiting for them in this new chapter.Yeah, that is very interesting and "good hoping" for ADTOE ;))
And my god, if MM's sister started to cry from the new album it has to be epic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4trac3zPz8Does JP said that the 2nd leg will be in spring?Or my ears are misleading me ;)
mangini is such a cool dude
I absolutely LOVE Mike Mangini!! Dream Theater has a whole new world waiting for them in this new chapter.
And my god, if MM's sister started to cry from the new album it has to be epic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4trac3zPz8Does JP said that the 2nd leg will be in spring?Or my ears are misleading me ;)
mangini is such a cool dude
No, I heard that too. I mean, he specifically talked about Italy, but my guess is that the whole second European leg will take place in spring. Which is fine with me, as long as they re-visit Austria or Munich. ;)
I have a strong feeling Haken will become the new progressive cult following.
I have a strong feeling Haken will become the new progressive cult following.
The world needs more Haken love. I love the band and I had the chance to meet the guys. Great band, great guys. Can't wait to see them next saturday (along with Dream Theater and Anathema, whoo!)
Well, within the genres I really like (which is actually quite many), there's like 1-5 good albums coming out each year. Not a lot IMO. I find most metal extremely boring though, so I might miss out on good acts within those genres. Most of the music that comes out these days just sound very familiar. There's not really been any significant development for the better or worse since the 90's, and therefore the new stuff just don't sound exciting. IMO of course. Bottom line, things have to be very, very good within its genre these days to be worth buying.Not really much good music coming out these days, and everything on the radio is made by computer geeks. Hopefully ADTOE will be one of the best records in the next few years.You're missing out on a ton of great new music.
Not really much good music coming out these days
Are you kidding?! :lol
No, dead serious. Name me one band that originated in this godawful millenium that will be remembered in 20 years like the bands of the 60s and 70s are.
Well, within the genres I really like (which is actually quite many), there's like 1-5 good albums coming out each year. Not a lot IMO. I find most metal extremely boring though, so I might miss out on good acts within those genres. Most of the music that comes out these days just sound very familiar. There's not really been any significant development for the better or worse since the 90's, and therefore the new stuff just don't sound exciting. IMO of course. Bottom line, things have to be very, very good within its genre these days to be worth buying.Not really much good music coming out these days, and everything on the radio is made by computer geeks. Hopefully ADTOE will be one of the best records in the next few years.You're missing out on a ton of great new music.
Not to hijack the thread too much, but I pretty much agree with you. The past 3-4 years in music have been pretty dull for me, although 2000-2004 was very good. I have to dig really hard to find anything that interests me. It doesn't help that indie has become so big and I don't like almost any of it.
September cannot come fast enough.
^ Man September is such a bitch.
October's cooler.
^ Man September is such a bitch.
Personal attack! Reported. >:(
Indeed, that was awesome dude.^ Man September is such a bitch.
Personal attack! Reported. >:(
Greatest first post I've seen.
Unexpected.
So, you finally came.
Unexpected.That is what one gal mentioned last night.
So, you finally came.
*snip*
Has anyone thought of the idea that ADTOE might be a double album?
Has anyone thought of the idea that ADTOE might be a double album?
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Edit: Nevermind. Double album? Doubt it, it would have been part of the announcement imo.Yeah, I think the track numbering would look different, were it a double album.
I can see your guys' point about them announcing it as a double album, but I have never witnessed the announcement of a double album, since I was a fan following the release of Octavarium. When they announced SDOIT to be released, did it include the two-dsic tracklisting that we know of today?Yes.
Good to know.I can see your guys' point about them announcing it as a double album, but I have never witnessed the announcement of a double album, since I was a fan following the release of Octavarium. When they announced SDOIT to be released, did it include the two-dsic tracklisting that we know of today?Yes.
I have only one question regarding the new album.
Stems.
BC&SL limited edition included a "producer's disc", containing all songs each split into 6 stems - vocals, guitar, solo, keys, bass, drums. It was a great thing for musicians and people like me, who just like to play with sound. Thanks to the stems, I could make a much more dynamic mix of the album, not suffering from the loudness war, increasing the clarity of keys and bass, making the kickdrum more prominent and other stuff like that.
I have got so much used to doing that, my mind can't comprehend a new DT album without the stems. Have you guys heard anything about that?
I have only one question regarding the new album.
Stems.
BC&SL limited edition included a "producer's disc", containing all songs each split into 6 stems - vocals, guitar, solo, keys, bass, drums. It was a great thing for musicians and people like me, who just like to play with sound. Thanks to the stems, I could make a much more dynamic mix of the album, not suffering from the loudness war, increasing the clarity of keys and bass, making the kickdrum more prominent and other stuff like that.
I have got so much used to doing that, my mind can't comprehend a new DT album without the stems. Have you guys heard anything about that?
Well, my improvements aren't _that_ good, so don't expect much from this :blush My description might have been a little misleading ;)Welcome!! I can feel the presence of the Polish brother down here.... :D ;D :metal
Maybe it shouldn't be called an improvement, but simply a custom version of some sort. It's most likely too bassy, with too much treble and a million other stuff you could complain about (like the guitar ;)), but... I love it much, much more than the original CD. And my speakers are pretty bad ;)
Here's a few minute sample: https://przygarnij.e-net24.pl/_Shattered_Fortress_sample.mp3 (I'm on a slow network, so it would take ages to upload anything longer and/or better quality).
Welcome!! I can feel the presence of the Polish brother down here.... :D ;D :metal:tup
There used to be a subforum here for the Black Clouds remixes, so I'm pretty sure it's allowed.What happened to this subforum? There must have been many interesting thing there, and I only heard two versions, posted ages ago on some audio oriented forum.
Nice interview with James about the album and tour and other stuff...
Guess Which lyric JM wrote? :D
https://www.prog-sphere.com/2011/07/11/resurfacing-an-interview-with-james-labrie/
Well they deserve some success with this album. It's a real grower and I think they've achieved what they were aiming to produce - a "classic Dream Theater album". Of course we'd all like Mike there behind the kit, and in a funny way it almost feels disloyal for me to be liking this album, but you won't be disappointed. Beneath The Surface is one of the most beautiful things they've ever written.
Wow, now my excitement is far too high... :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :yarr :yarr :yarr :yarr :yarr :xbones :xbones :xbones :xbones :xbones :xbones :xbones :xbones :xbones :chill...Quote from: Rich WilsonWell they deserve some success with this album. It's a real grower and I think they've achieved what they were aiming to produce - a "classic Dream Theater album". Of course we'd all like Mike there behind the kit, and in a funny way it almost feels disloyal for me to be liking this album, but you won't be disappointed. Beneath The Surface is one of the most beautiful things they've ever written.
From Voices UK forum.
Of course we'd all like Mike [Portnoy] there behind the kit,
Quote from: Rich WilsonOf course we'd all like Mike [Portnoy] there behind the kit,
I wouldn't.
QFT.Quote from: Rich WilsonOf course we'd all like Mike [Portnoy] there behind the kit,
I wouldn't.
me neither - no disprect to Portnoy but im happy with things how they are now thank you very much!
I really, really, really like Mangini's input on OTBOA.
JP wrote what he was looking for (which was basic), but Mangini added everything beyond the basic point. And we all know there is hardly anything basic on the drums for the song.I really, really, really like Mangini's input on OTBOA.
He didn't write the drum lines though. I think Petrucci did.
Trust this forum to focus on what he said about MP, not on what he said about the quality of the album and Beneath the Surface. :lol
Trust this forum to focus on what he said about MP, not on what he said about the quality of the album and Beneath the Surface. :lolHearing about how good a song is doesn't shock me. I almost expect it. :lol
Trust this forum to focus on what he said about MP, not on what he said about the quality of the album and Beneath the Surface. :lolSays it all really. :lol
I appreciated reading Rich's comments on the album but I have no personal opinion on it yet because I havent heard it. However he also put that "We" would all like MP on the drums. It should have been "I". That is Rich's own personal opinion not all of ours - mine is that i'm glad MM is the drummer now because DT couldnt have continued as it was.
I appreciated reading Rich's comments on the album but I have no personal opinion on it yet because I havent heard it. However he also put that "We" would all like MP on the drums. It should have been "I". That is Rich's own personal opinion not all of ours - mine is that i'm glad MM is the drummer now because DT couldnt have continued as it was.
For those of us who don't have access to the magazine, are there any other particularly interesting moments in the review?
It wasn't a full length review, just a post by Rich on the VoicesUK forum.
Trust this forum to focus on what he said about MP, not on what he said about the quality of the album and Beneath the Surface. :lolSays it all really. :lol
When do you guys think the track lengths will be released?
What was the Rich Wilson post then?
Well they deserve some success with this album. It's a real grower and I think they've achieved what they were aiming to produce - a "classic Dream Theater album". Of course we'd all like Mike there behind the kit, and in a funny way it almost feels disloyal for me to be liking this album, but you won't be disappointed. Beneath The Surface is one of the most beautiful things they've ever written.
Probably just comes with the "The Spirit Carries On" documentary.
Probably just comes with the "The Spirit Carries On" documentary.
Plus a Mike Mangini interview in Cove City too isn't it?
Apparently MP is going to do a guest spot on That Metal Show. Do you think Eddie Trunk's going to ask him about OTBOA and/or DT at all?
Apparently MP is going to do a guest spot on That Metal Show. Do you think Eddie Trunk's going to ask him about OTBOA and/or DT at all?
I hope so. But I doubt it.
Where will one be able to listen to and/or watch this show?
I don't know, I just saw this on his twitter:
"Gonna be fun joining my buddies @EddieTrunk, @realdonjamieson and @Mrjimflorentine for another guest spot on this season's That Metal Show"
vh1 classic
On The Backs Of AngelsHoly carp, you're right!
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Lost Not Forgotten
This Is The Life
Bridges In The Sky ??? ??? ??? :o
Outcry
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath The Surface
Where is The Shaman's Trance? It's track listing from play.com.
Trust this forum to focus on what he said about MP, not on what he said about the quality of the album and Beneath the Surface. :lolSays it all really. :lol
Not really. Lifting Shadows is a great book. But Rich's DT rankings are pretty fail, as far as I remember them (i.e., LiTS and ToT aren't included in FII's 'good' songs, the TA debut is better than BaF, etc).
On The Backs Of AngelsHoly carp, you're right!
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Lost Not Forgotten
This Is The Life
Bridges In The Sky ??? ??? ??? :o
Outcry
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath The Surface
Where is The Shaman's Trance? It's track listing from play.com.
:lolOn The Backs Of AngelsHoly carp, you're right!
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Lost Not Forgotten
This Is The Life
Bridges In The Sky ??? ??? ??? :o
Outcry
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath The Surface
Where is The Shaman's Trance? It's track listing from play.com.
I've never heard of a holy carp before. I think you may be thinking of this:
:magikarp:
R.I.P Shaman's Trance :sadpanda:
i like bridges in the sky as a song title
shaman's trance isnt bad, its just the worst one on there and is pretty goofy.
Great caption! :lol
A couple foreign language websites, also announced a change from The Shaman's Trance to Bridges in the Sky, dating about 2 days ago.
Now that I'm thinking about it "The Shaman Trance'' seems like a work title. They used to put on some temporary title as seen on previous documentaries.
Now that I'm thinking about it "The Shaman Trance'' seems like a work title. They used to put on some temporary title as seen on previous documentaries.
Not necessarily. If a distributor gave the wrong name to a few sellers, or the seller is the only one who has so far put out the name, it's likely just other sites perpetuating the faulty info. As has been said earlier in the thread, it is very common to have wrong info posted this early. Doesn't necessarily mean the song name has changed.
If one can't possibly access VH1 Classic?
If one can't possibly access VH1 Classic?
One can watch full episodes on their website.
I can't wait for the album too. I also find it a bit funny and ironic that Mike will probably be put in Kevin's shoes since the album is released because every interview he gives will have the same questions: did you listen to it, what do you think?
Could inspire him to write a reverse Raise the Knife song, who knows :D
If the song title makes me wonder (if legit): what type of a song would fit both those names that are so different from each other?
announcement or it didnt happen
i'm indifferent between the two song names. As long as the song is killer who caresThis is DTF. :lol
Bridges in the Sky is an amazing title.I like Shaman's Trance better
I want to put this out here, just for the sake of discussion:Well that'd be just brilliant, 'cause then we'd all be looking forward to BITS, which is a fantastic acronym.
What if Bridges in the Sky was the album title?
I want to put this out here, just for the sake of discussion:Well that'd be just brilliant, 'cause then we'd all be looking forward to BITS, which is a fantastic acronym.
What if Bridges in the Sky was the album title?
I hope that ADToE artwork is just a joke :-\
I still think there should have been a song called John's Psychedelic Breakfast. Just putting it out there.
Bridges In The Cloudy Heaven would be even more brilliant for that.That would be ny favorite album, hands down. Before even hearing the music.
I hope that ADToE artwork is just a joke :-\
I want to put this out here, just for the sake of discussion:
What if Bridges in the Sky was the album title?
I want to put this out here, just for the sake of discussion:Well that would certainly be a dramatic turn of
What if Bridges in the Sky was the album title?
I want to put this out here, just for the sake of discussion:Well that would certainly be a dramatic turn of
What if Bridges in the Sky was the album title?
ah screw it.
I want to put this out here, just for the sake of discussion:Well that would certainly be a dramatic turn of
What if Bridges in the Sky was the album title?
ah screw it.
We could always call it E1ev1n. :neverusethis:
I want to put this out here, just for the sake of discussion:Well that would certainly be a dramatic turn of
What if Bridges in the Sky was the album title?
ah screw it.
We could always call it E1ev1n. :neverusethis:
Dream Theater is nowhere near as hip as Megadeth.
The bridge in the sky keeps on burnin'
The bridge in the sky keeps on burnin'
Journey reference?
this may be a bit of a far-fetched hypothesis, but maybe the song name "the shamans trance", if it has in fact been changed, was dismissed as it could be a form of drug reference.Well, that is far-fetched.
shamans have been known to utilize or advocate the use of psychoactive drugs, notably psilocyben mushrooms and dimethyltryptamine (DMT, from native plants, leaves etc.) in order to "discover" one's self and their place in nature (or something like that :lol). In this psychoactive state, a shamans chant is utilized to help induce a particular state of mind under the influence of these substances.
Maybe the potential allusion of drug-use could be a reason to change the name?
this may be a bit of a far-fetched hypothesis, but maybe the song name "the shamans trance", if it has in fact been changed, was dismissed as it could be a form of drug reference.They have an entire series of songs based on alcohol, and they have covered an entire Pink Floyd album, a band who is best known for drug influences... I doubt DT is worried about people speculating about drugs because they have a title with the word "shaman" in it lol.
shamans have been known to utilize or advocate the use of psychoactive drugs, notably psilocyben mushrooms and dimethyltryptamine (DMT, from native plants, leaves etc.) in order to "discover" one's self and their place in nature (or something like that :lol). In this psychoactive state, a shamans chant is utilized to help induce a particular state of mind under the influence of these substances.
Maybe the potential allusion of drug-use could be a reason to change the name?
John Myung confirmed in an interview that they changed the title because it sounded too spooky.I honestly believed that for about two seconds.
(I'm sorry, but coupled with the news feed on here and having just watched that DVD again, I couldn't let it go)
Me too :)John Myung confirmed in an interview that they changed the title because it sounded too spooky.I honestly believed that for about two seconds.
(I'm sorry, but coupled with the news feed on here and having just watched that DVD again, I couldn't let it go)
With the instrumental disc being confirmed as part of a special edition, it seems likely that none of the tracks will be instrumental on the full record.
I never understood why they removed the lead guitar from the BC&SL instrumental mixes...I hope they leave them in this time
With the instrumental disc being confirmed as part of a special edition, it seems likely that none of the tracks will be instrumental on the full record.
Not necessarily, I still think there's a possibility of an instrumental track (although unlikely at this point). When they released the instrumental versions of BC&SL they were not only missing the vocals but also guitar/key solos. I wouldn't be surprised that if there IS an instrumental track, they included it on the instrumental CD just to be thorough, and perhaps removed the solos and just left the rhythm instrumental. I would be ok with listening to that, if it was a really cool instrumental.
However I would place my bets on no instrumental for this album. There hasn't been an instrumental track since... Train of Thought? There probably wont be another one any time soon.
I've said this elsewhere, but if you were releasing an instrumental edition of Train of Thought, would you segue Vacant straight into In the Name of God?With the instrumental disc being confirmed as part of a special edition, it seems likely that none of the tracks will be instrumental on the full record.
Not necessarily, I still think there's a possibility of an instrumental track (although unlikely at this point). When they released the instrumental versions of BC&SL they were not only missing the vocals but also guitar/key solos. I wouldn't be surprised that if there IS an instrumental track, they included it on the instrumental CD just to be thorough, and perhaps removed the solos and just left the rhythm instrumental. I would be ok with listening to that, if it was a really cool instrumental.
However I would place my bets on no instrumental for this album. There hasn't been an instrumental track since... Train of Thought? There probably wont be another one any time soon.
I don't see how they would release the same thing twice on the same album.
Just got another reply:
I think it's worth a small news post later in the week!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Tracklengths coming this week :D
Just got another reply:
I think it's worth a small news post later in the week!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Tracklengths coming this week :D
I'm gonna predict that Breaking All Illusions is the longest song on the album.I will predict that too. I used to think it was going to be Beneath the Surface until it was announced it was JP's "own" song.
JP wrote the lyrics for what was originally titled Shamans' but there was a line in the song that says Bridges in the Sky hence the new name
Again, nobody ever said it was.
Again, nobody ever said it was.
Well, lots of people said it was. Just no-one important :biggrin:
Shucks am I disappointed that Raw Dog isn't going to be included on this album or the bonus disc
Shucks am I disappointed that Raw Dog isn't going to be included on this album or the bonus disc
Shucks am I disappointed that Raw Dog isn't going to be included on this album or the bonus disc
I hope you're kidding.
Again, nobody ever said it was.I don't know where you've been, but a lot have been speculating that it was. :lol I pretty sure that's what he meant
No, I mean nobody associated with the band. Some random fan on the Internet randomly speculating that something might be true means nothing. I think I might have seen a post where someone said that on release day, DT was going to stetch actual tightropes across the sky and hire clowns to ride across them on unicycles. Should I act shocked and disappointed when that doesn't happen? I don't think so.
No, I mean nobody associated with the band. Some random fan on the Internet randomly speculating that something might be true means nothing. I think I might have seen a post where someone said that on release day, DT was going to stetch actual tightropes across the sky and hire clowns to ride across them on unicycles. Should I act shocked and disappointed when that doesn't happen? I don't think so.
That's the point actually...the fans assumed JLB wrote OTBOA, and they were wrong. The fans assumed TST/BITS is an instrumental, they were wrong. The underline is - if it's just speculation, take it with a grain of salt.No, I mean nobody associated with the band. Some random fan on the Internet randomly speculating that something might be true means nothing. I think I might have seen a post where someone said that on release day, DT was going to stetch actual tightropes across the sky and hire clowns to ride across them on unicycles. Should I act shocked and disappointed when that doesn't happen? I don't think so.
Well, true, but quite a chunk of fans had speculated that it would be an instrumental. Just like the lyricist for OtBoA - most of us speculated that JLB wrote it, and were therefore a bit surprised when JR said that JP wrote it. What's wrong with that?
That's the point actually...the fans assumed JLB wrote OTBOA, and they were wrong. The fans assumed TST/BITS is an instrumental, they were wrong. The underline is - if it's just speculation, take it with a grain of salt.No, I mean nobody associated with the band. Some random fan on the Internet randomly speculating that something might be true means nothing. I think I might have seen a post where someone said that on release day, DT was going to stetch actual tightropes across the sky and hire clowns to ride across them on unicycles. Should I act shocked and disappointed when that doesn't happen? I don't think so.
Well, true, but quite a chunk of fans had speculated that it would be an instrumental. Just like the lyricist for OtBoA - most of us speculated that JLB wrote it, and were therefore a bit surprised when JR said that JP wrote it. What's wrong with that?
Actually, don't take it. At all. Just wait for official info ^^
No, I mean nobody associated with the band. Some random fan on the Internet randomly speculating that something might be true means nothing. I think I might have seen a post where someone said that on release day, DT was going to stetch actual tightropes across the sky and hire clowns to ride across them on unicycles. Should I act shocked and disappointed when that doesn't happen? I don't think so.That would be the best live show ever.
Sorry for asking, but I'm getting lost with this ;) How do We know of track lenghts that it will be revealed in next week? ;D
LOL, You asked and They answered just like that? impressive :metal in that case I can't wait ;) Thanks :)Sorry for asking, but I'm getting lost with this ;) How do We know of track lenghts that it will be revealed in next week? ;D
This week! And because I asked Roadrunner when they would release them and they replied with this:
I think it's worth a small news post later in the week!
I wonder when the previews will be released :PIf they will be released... They have been released with BC&SL though...I don't remember how fast before release anyway...
You guys do realise that it's still seven weeks until the release, right? (...)Yeah, now I do realise... :|
You guys do realise that it's still seven weeks until the release, right? My guess is that it will be still two or three weeks until we get the previews for the songs, most likely when the promo copies are distributed.
Interesting, RR is not afraid of leaking some material?You guys do realise that it's still seven weeks until the release, right? My guess is that it will be still two or three weeks until we get the previews for the songs, most likely when the promo copies are distributed.
The press have it now, by the looks of things
Metal Hammer Writer Dom Lawson's twitter, look about 10 tweens down. (https://twitter.com/#!/Dom_Lawson)
I think that the big magazines, like Metal Hammer, have a certain trust policy regarding that; it's the "small" journalists who are likely to leak new albums imo.
You guys do realise that it's still seven weeks until the release, right? My guess is that it will be still two or three weeks until we get the previews for the songs, most likely when the promo copies are distributed.
You guys do realise that it's still seven weeks until the release, right? My guess is that it will be still two or three weeks until we get the previews for the songs, most likely when the promo copies are distributed.
The press have it now, by the looks of things
Metal Hammer Writer Dom Lawson's twitter, look about 10 tweens down. (https://twitter.com/#!/Dom_Lawson)
You guys do realise that it's still seven weeks until the release, right? My guess is that it will be still two or three weeks until we get the previews for the songs, most likely when the promo copies are distributed.
The press have it now, by the looks of things
Metal Hammer Writer Dom Lawson's twitter, look about 10 tweens down. (https://twitter.com/#!/Dom_Lawson)
can someone post the tweet? i cant get on twitter here
You guys do realise that it's still seven weeks until the release, right? My guess is that it will be still two or three weeks until we get the previews for the songs, most likely when the promo copies are distributed.
The press have it now, by the looks of things
Metal Hammer Writer Dom Lawson's twitter, look about 10 tweens down. (https://twitter.com/#!/Dom_Lawson)
can someone post the tweet? i cant get on twitter here
"#nowplaying Dream Theater - A Dramatic Turn Of Events"
3. Lost Not Forgotten (10:11)
Official track lengths:I love that! Nothing too long, but still a few longer tunes! It has sort of an SFAM feel with the track lengths.
1. On the Backs of Angels (8:46)
2. Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
3. Lost Not Forgotten (10:11)
4. This is the Life (6:57)
5. Bridges in the Sky (11:01)
6. Outcry (11:24)
7. Far From Heaven (3:56)
8. Breaking All Illusions (12:25)
9. Beneath the Surface (5:26)
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=111612
Perfect song lengths if you ask me. That 4 minute song should be interesting. Overall though, I'm surprised that the last track is shorter than the one before itIt's Awake all over again. Except probably better.
It's Awake all over again. Except probably better.
Four of the songs on Wiki don't have a listed lyricist. Are they instrumentals? Or is it simply unknown yet?
We all know that the closer is supposed to be the giant knockout punch that puts you in a musical coma until the next album, but at only 5:26, I'm not sure if it'll be able to do that.
Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?I don't think so at all really. They never feel like they are an hour and 20 minutes at least
Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?They're not long enough.
Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?
Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?
Perfect track durations. I'm tired of epics.I agree.
It's also listed right up front in the first post in the official news thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=22350.msg854080#msg854080Thanks again, I had no idea that thread even existed... :lol
you forgot SDV :angel:Well, Space Dye Vest is about 7:30, so I don't consider that a short song... but I guess it's short in terms of closing tracks.
I know that Petrucci did On the Backs of Angels and the song formerly known as The Shaman's Trance, what other three did we find out and where?There was an interview where it was revealed that JMX wrote the lyrics to Breaking All Illusions.
Longest song is Breaking All Illusions.....who called it????
I DID!!!! :biggrin:
Longest song is Breaking All Illusions.....who called it????
I DID!!!! :biggrin:
Sorry, but I gave my last cookie to the guy who called that the album title would have the letter "e" somewhere in it.
Pleasantly surprised!I'm betting that Far From Heaven is an intro of sorts to Breaking all Illusions, so I doubt that's the single. Same with Beneath The Surface, if only because the final tracks of DT albums aren't usually meant to be singles. If I had to guess, I'd go with This is the Life.
Possible singles?:
1. On the Backs of Angels (8:42) *Confirmed as the first single by RR.*
2. Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6:59)
4. This is the Life (6:57)
7. Far From Heaven (3:56)
9. Beneath The Surface (5:26)
Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?
Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?
Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?
No...in fact DT has spoiled me on other artists....Any album clocking in at under 60m just feels too short
Anyone else feel that DT's albums are too long?
No...in fact DT has spoiled me on other artists....Any album clocking in at under 60m just feels too short
-And it's great to see that Myung will be given a lot of room for him to strech his lyrical legs. A 10+ min song of JM lyrics sounds fantastic.
:cookie:
Why would an album ever be to long? It's just a set of songs.
Why would an album ever be to long? It's just a set of songs.
To me it's not.
The track lenghts remind me a lot of FII and a bit of the first disc of SDOIT, which makes me quite happy.Completely agreed with this. Great stuff!
The length of Lost Not Forgotten reversed is the length of Bridges in the Sky!
Nuggs.
Once again: Nuggets = MP =/= DT.Except that Hell's Kitchen was originally a part of Burning My Soul, before they separated them.
I like the idea that FFH could be an instrumental leading into BAI, similar to HK/LITS on FII.
Once again: Nuggets = MP =/= DT.Except that Hell's Kitchen was originally a part of Burning My Soul, before they separated them.
I like the idea that FFH could be an instrumental leading into BAI, similar to HK/LITS on FII.
Once again: Nuggets = MP =/= DT.Except that Hell's Kitchen was originally a part of Burning My Soul, before they separated them.
I like the idea that FFH could be an instrumental leading into BAI, similar to HK/LITS on FII.
REALLY interesting at how long BITS! is.It's a BITS longer than I expected.
Awesome choice ending with a shorter song. Album is a little long for my tastes, but oh well.
Speaking of rock, I now have a very good feeling about Outcry. It sounds like a metal type song, and if it's over 11 minutes, I have high hopes for it.For some reason, I'm having the exact same feelings towards it. The title gives me the idea that track will have a bit of power and aggression behind it. And now that I've seen the song length, it almost ensures its epicosity. So, hard prog rock plus epic elements surely means that this track will turn out to be a killer.
It's Awake all over again. Except probably better.Gosh, well I hope so. If this album turns out being of the same standard as 'Awake', I will be hugely disappointed.
I've never understood thinking an album is 'too long' unless it has extremely obvious filler. As long as all of the songs are good, I'll take as much as I can get.Yeah, this is how I've always thought of it as well.
Nice first post! :)Thank you for the warm welcome. :)
[...]really looking forward to hearing all the +10 songs, Outcry, Bridges in the Sky and especially Breaking All Illusions.
That had more to do with arrangements as well. One of ANTR's biggest problems was it felt like parts of three separate songs hastily sewed together.
I mean, the longest song on 'Scenes from a Memory' - my favourite Dream Theater album - is only 12:52.Only on a prog forum. :lol
I'm actually also really looking forward to hearing LaBrie's lyrical work, on whatever track(s) that/they might be (for some reason, I get the feeling that "Outcry" might be one). That guy can really write when it comes to lyrics, if you ask me. It was a shame that 'BC&SL' (perhaps their lyrically weakest album) featured none of his writing.Yes, Outcry would be my guess too for some reason. It kinda just sounds like something LaBrie would say (only he is physsicly able to pronounce the word 'Outcry' in the band you see).
canadians outcry all the time
I hope Far From Heaven is a Hell's Kitchen type piece... that would be awesome!Well, Hell is about as "far from heaven" as you can get, so it's possible :laugh:
Nice first post! :)Thank you for the warm welcome. :)[...]really looking forward to hearing all the +10 songs, Outcry, Bridges in the Sky and especially Breaking All Illusions.
Oh, absolutely! I really can't wait to see what Myung's got up his sleeve, lyrically.
I'm actually also really looking forward to hearing LaBrie's lyrical work, on whatever track(s) that/they might be (for some reason, I get the feeling that "Outcry" might be one). That guy can really write when it comes to lyrics, if you ask me. It was a shame that 'BC&SL' (perhaps their lyrically weakest album) featured none of his writing.
Nice first post! :)Thank you for the warm welcome. :)[...]really looking forward to hearing all the +10 songs, Outcry, Bridges in the Sky and especially Breaking All Illusions.
Oh, absolutely! I really can't wait to see what Myung's got up his sleeve, lyrically.
I'm actually also really looking forward to hearing LaBrie's lyrical work, on whatever track(s) that/they might be (for some reason, I get the feeling that "Outcry" might be one). That guy can really write when it comes to lyrics, if you ask me. It was a shame that 'BC&SL' (perhaps their lyrically weakest album) featured none of his writing.
With or without MP, the lyrics will be typically Dream Theater, in that they will be nothing to write home about.
Nice first post! :)Thank you for the warm welcome. :)[...]really looking forward to hearing all the +10 songs, Outcry, Bridges in the Sky and especially Breaking All Illusions.
Oh, absolutely! I really can't wait to see what Myung's got up his sleeve, lyrically.
I'm actually also really looking forward to hearing LaBrie's lyrical work, on whatever track(s) that/they might be (for some reason, I get the feeling that "Outcry" might be one). That guy can really write when it comes to lyrics, if you ask me. It was a shame that 'BC&SL' (perhaps their lyrically weakest album) featured none of his writing.
With or without MP, the lyrics will be typically Dream Theater, in that they will be nothing to write home about.
Um, what would you say is a typical example of non-MP DT lyricisms?
I mean JLB typically writes political tunes, a la ItNoG and Sacrificed Sons.That was on DT albums though. On his Solo work, there isn't that much political stuff. Especially Static Impulse. Half of that was like... dark love songs.
I mean JLB typically writes political tunes, a la ItNoG and Sacrificed Sons.ITNOG was a Petrucci lyric
Shows how much I know. :lol
Shows how much I know. :lol
You could have said you meant to say PoW instead of itNoG
Woot I just realizes PoW is the same acronym for prisoners of war - nuggetz
How/why would you describe DT's lyrics as being weak?
I find their lyrics to work quite well, and I'm curious as to what makes them not work too well for you.
How/why would you describe DT's lyrics as being weak?
I find their lyrics to work quite well, and I'm curious as to what makes them not work too well for you.
:lol :lolI hope Far From Heaven is a Hell's Kitchen type piece... that would be awesome!Well, Hell is about as "far from heaven" as you can get, so it's possible :laugh:
:lol :lolI hope Far From Heaven is a Hell's Kitchen type piece... that would be awesome!Well, Hell is about as "far from heaven" as you can get, so it's possible :laugh:
I quite like DT's lyrics, sure they have written some bad ones especially on the last 2 albums but there are a lot of really great ones.
:lol :lolI hope Far From Heaven is a Hell's Kitchen type piece... that would be awesome!Well, Hell is about as "far from heaven" as you can get, so it's possible :laugh:
I quite like DT's lyrics, sure they have written some bad ones especially on the last 2 albums but there are a lot of really great ones.
If I had to rank the albums by their lyrics, I'm pretty sure it'd go:
1. Awake
2. Six
3. I-s & W-s
4. F-ing into I
5. Eigthalbum
6. When D&D Unite
7. T of T
8. BC
9. S-atic C
10. Metro Number 2: Electric Boogaloo
Twelve and a quarter minutes of Myung lyrics in Breaking All Illusions, how sweet is that he's penned the longest track on the album?
I've never seen a ranking albums by lyrics type of list.It's a good idea. Start a thread.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=25199.0 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=25199.0)I've never seen a ranking albums by lyrics type of list.It's a good idea. Start a thread.
if you think that Breaking all Illusions is so beautiful musically to bring back JM at Lyrics (or so it seem from what JLS said), just make that song a masterpiece...even without earing a signgle note,
https://www.jlsofficial.com/if you think that Breaking all Illusions is so beautiful musically to bring back JM at Lyrics (or so it seem from what JLS said), just make that song a masterpiece...even without earing a signgle note,
Who's JLS?
if you think that Breaking all Illusions is so beautiful musically to bring back JM at Lyrics (or so it seem from what JLS said), just make that song a masterpiece...even without earing a signgle note,
Oh crap!sorry I was very very drunk last night :hat
We haven't got Walmart in Poland, to be honest there isn't true music store in Poland... there are many music stores on the net where probably preorder will be available soon...hope so ;)
I think you're, and I mentioned this way back when Systematic Chaos was released, and I'm sure on average DT lyrics are better than from other groups, particularly popular groups. However I think we probably hold them to a higher standard and so we want them to be able to do better than X song.
I think you're, and I mentioned this way back when Systematic Chaos was released, and I'm sure on average DT lyrics are better than from other groups, particularly popular groups. However I think we probably hold them to a higher standard and so we want them to be able to do better than X song.
I would imagine that when they were younger the school years were fresh and they may have studied literature etc, and that was when the lyrics were "better". As the years go by the discipline fades. I used to be a good writer in my younger days but it's gone with lack of practice and regular exposure to how it should be done.
There aren't many bands I listen to where I would class the lyrics as great- Rush, Fish-era Marillion- I'm struggling for more. It's not important to me.
I think you're, and I mentioned this way back when Systematic Chaos was released, and I'm sure on average DT lyrics are better than from other groups, particularly popular groups. However I think we probably hold them to a higher standard and so we want them to be able to do better than X song.
I always find thiis expectation to be a bit much though. The amount of time they all spent honing their craft and in later years the touring/recording cycle will have left little time to devote to reading and improving as writers. They are musicians, not poets, and the two are rarely found together.
I would imagine that when they were younger the school years were fresh and they may have studied literature etc, and that was when the lyrics were "better". As the years go by the discipline fades. I used to be a good writer in my younger days but it's gone with lack of practice and regular exposure to how it should be done.
There aren't many bands I listen to where I would class the lyrics as great- Rush, Fish-era Marillion- I'm struggling for more. It's not important to me. It's all about the music and the melody.
We haven't got Walmart in Poland, to be honest there isn't true music store in Poland... there are many music stores on the net where probably preorder will be available soon...hope so ;)
6. When D&D UniteWhen Dungeons and Dragons Unite :-D
Yeah I know that :) but You know...I want it, now ;) even if it is only preorder :) and I want boxset ;) it probably will be available on rockserwis.pl, just like was when Systematic Chaos were about to be released. It appered something about 3 weeks before release ;)We haven't got Walmart in Poland, to be honest there isn't true music store in Poland... there are many music stores on the net where probably preorder will be available soon...hope so ;)
I bought my BC&SL CD the day it was released in a local store. You probably won't have any trouble finding it, just go to Empik or similiar shop :)
I like what I'm assuming is the box lid on the top left of that picture. It reminds me of one of the designs tossed around in the album cover speculation thread before they released the cover;
(https://i52.tinypic.com/c3pyw.jpg)
The box set.
(https://i56.tinypic.com/30ue8tg.jpg)
One of the cover mockups I made.
Frogs and locusts? I guess the 10 plagues of Egypt would be a pretty dramatic turn of events wouldn't it? :biggrin:
Augh!!This month is practicly over, and after August, we have like 2 weeks of September. So really, it's like a month to go before we get the album. It's going to be here in no time. (even sooner if you're one of the people who will "give in to temptation" like I will, thanks to the wonders of the internet. Though still, I will be buying this album regardless.)
I have never understood the hate the album cover gets...I think it looks great. It is a big change from a lot of their covers (WDaDU, Awake, Scenes, ToT, SC, and BCSL all had dark covers) and I like the fact that it is bright and almost happy looking to me.Yeah, the art's grown on me a lot. Thought it was kind of ugly at first, but now I'm kind of fond. The aeroplane fin looks less out of place each time I look, and the unicyclist stands out beautifully against a very bold, very deep, gorgeous blue.
Augh!!This month is practicly over, and after August, we have like 2 weeks of September. So really, it's like a month to go before we get the album. It's going to be here in no time. (even sooner if you're one of the people who will "give in to temptation" like I will, thanks to the wonders of the internet. Though still, I will be buying this album regardless.)
Do you think they'll release just the vinyl version of the album in the future? I cant get the special edition ( :( ) I'd be happy with the vinyl only but I guess I'll have to get the standard edition.
FUCK ARGHHH I FLIPPIN HATE JEWEL CASES SOOOO DAMN MUCH
Do you think they'll release just the vinyl version of the album in the future? I cant get the special edition ( :( ) I'd be happy with the vinyl only but I guess I'll have to get the standard edition.
FUCK ARGHHH I FLIPPIN HATE JEWEL CASES SOOOO DAMN MUCH
There's already a vinyl version available for preorder. From memory, the options currently are:
CD only: ~$14
CD/DVD: ~$16
Vinyl only: ~$23
Box Set: ~$106
I don't hate the album art but it certainly feels lazy or like they didn't give it too much thought. Is there a possibility of them going back to it and changing something if they feel like it or is it too late because of the printing process?
I don't hate the album art but it certainly feels lazy or like they didn't give it too much thought. Is there a possibility of them going back to it and changing something if they feel like it or is it too late because of the printing process?
Even if it weren't too late, I don't think they'd change it just for you.
(https://i56.tinypic.com/30ue8tg.jpg)
One of the cover mockups I made.
I think he got the font and color scheme from the teaser email they sent out regarding the track listing. It had the album title and band name cropped out from the album cover.Someone here had it in their sig, and when I did a mockup along the lines of the Beatles 'White Album', they asked me to do a blue one, because of that patch of the cover that had been leaked.
I have never understood the hate the album cover gets...I think it looks great. It is a big change from a lot of their covers (WDaDU, Awake, Scenes, ToT, SC, and BCSL all had dark covers) and I like the fact that it is bright and almost happy looking to me.Yeah, the art's grown on me a lot. Thought it was kind of ugly at first, but now I'm kind of fond. The aeroplane fin looks less out of place each time I look, and the unicyclist stands out beautifully against a very bold, very deep, gorgeous blue.
I still want them to switch cover artists sooner rather than later, but I actually think ADToE is probably Hugh Syme's strongest work with the band. Stark, bold, and very recognisable. Which I was definitely not saying at the time.
We already have a blue theme.No, I'm talking like the one on DT's youtube, channel with the clown and all. That'd be cool if the new theme was like that one.
We already have a blue theme.
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"The Shaman's Trance" has been changed to "Bridges In The Sky"?
I just went standard CD, I hear the deluxe has a Myung blow up doll, true?There better be
At least the release date is sooner than 2025.Certainly wish that could be said for the next King Crimson or Tool album..
Just gotta say I love the new album cover. It reminds me of the A Change of Seasons cover - same sort of vibe. That's all. :cornNot to mention an almost identical colour scheme.
How about an anteater? :)Next album
Does anyone have the times for the tracks yet? I wanna know which are the longer tracks. :metal
Does anyone have the times for the tracks yet? I wanna know which are the longer tracks. :metalVery special first post ;) Welcome :D
Referring to the root of funk.Don't know why I find this so funny but I am sitting here actually laughing.
The floor ends up being the "beautiful moment" of the disc.Written like a true floor-lover.
So.... does anyone here speak Portugese?Considering it's similar to Spanish, I'll give it a go.
So.... does anyone here speak Portugese?Considering it's similar to Spanish, I'll give it a go.
I ain't reading these reviews. I don't want this album to be spoiled, or have my hopes get raised like with SC.
QuoteThe floor ends up being the "beautiful moment" of the disc.Written like a true floor-lover.
Well there you have it. People finally got their Images And Words Part 2.
:zook2:
On The Back Of Angels - Pull Me Under - Basic Dream Theater-ish single
Build Me Up, Break Me Down - Another Day - Pop-ish song
Lost Not Forgotten - Take the Time - LaBrie strains his voice more, 70-ish keyboard sounds?
This is the Life - Surrounded - Slow, almost ballad-feeling
Bridges in the Sky - Metropolis pt.1 - Best song in terms of dynamics
Outcry - Under A Glass Moon - Grandiloquent intro, Yes-sounding?
Far From Heaven - Wait For Sleep - Piano/Vocal duet
Breaking All Illusions - Learning To Live - Myung Lyrics, longest song in the album
Congratulations on sparking what could be the most annoying debate on DTF since last week or so.
I don't like the idea of an Images and Words pt. 2. I don't want this album to be just like images and words. I wanted smething new from them, a new chapter. I don't want them trying to repeat themselves.
Congratulations on sparking what could be the most annoying debate on DTF since last week or so.
I don't like the idea of an Images and Words pt. 2. I don't want this album to be just like images and words. I wanted smething new from them, a new chapter. I don't want them trying to repeat themselves.
MM soils small speed progression
On The Back Of Angels - Pull Me Under - Basic Dream Theater-ish single
Build Me Up, Break Me Down - Another Day - Pop-ish song
Lost Not Forgotten - Take the Time - LaBrie strains his voice more, 70-ish keyboard sounds?
This is the Life - Surrounded - Slow, almost ballad-feeling
Bridges in the Sky - Metropolis pt.1 - Best song in terms of dynamics
Outcry - Under A Glass Moon - Grandiloquent intro, Yes-sounding?
Far From Heaven - Wait For Sleep - Piano/Vocal duet
Breaking All Illusions - Learning To Live - Myung Lyrics, longest song in the album
Congratulations on sparking what could be the most annoying debate on DTF since last week or so.
Reading the translation really raised my excitement about this album.
On The Back Of Angels - Pull Me Under - Basic Dream Theater-ish single
Build Me Up, Break Me Down - Another Day - Pop-ish song
Lost Not Forgotten - Take the Time - LaBrie strains his voice more, 70-ish keyboard sounds?
This is the Life - Surrounded - Slow, almost ballad-feeling
Bridges in the Sky - Metropolis pt.1 - Best song in terms of dynamics
Outcry - Under A Glass Moon - Grandiloquent intro, Yes-sounding?
Far From Heaven - Wait For Sleep - Piano/Vocal duet
Breaking All Illusions - Learning To Live - Myung Lyrics, longest song in the album
But why those animals?
TOT: Ravens
8V: Octopus
SC: Ants
BL&SL: Elephants
ADTOE: Frogs
SO what next? Leopards or skunks? Bear could be good choice.
But why those animals?
TOT: Ravens
8V: Octopus
SC: Ants
BL&SL: Elephants
ADTOE: Frogs
SO what next? Leopards or skunks? Bear could be good choice.
Ravens - Harbingers of bad news.
Octopus - Eight limbs.
Ants - Look tiny and chaotic, but work together to build systematic larger communities.
Elephants - Have long memories.
Frogs - errrr - Plagues of Egypt, perhaps?
I think... if you look on the sleeve, where the frog's included, you can see that it's on a lilypad, with a shark under the water.
I imagine Hugh Syme was giggling his little heart out when he came up with that one, as it's a Dramatic Turn of Events inasmuch as a shark is in a garden pond, and the shark can be described as being Beneath the Surface.
(https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/dynimages/23159.jpg)
There, on the far right.
Maybe it's a frog eating fish.
I think this new record is going to be good, but men,They are raining?
Agreed. But they haven't made it across yet, The band are on the tightrope now.like the clown
have you guys seen the digital single cover yet?I actually like that.
https://www.amazon.com/On-The-Backs-Of-Angels/dp/B005EQA5ZU/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311864830&sr=301-1
It could be a lot better.
See, I think aesthetically it looks quite nice. But the concept is quite amusing and a bit silly.It's well composed, but while crucial to the concept, the red-wash makes it look kind of ugly. He could've at least put a black circle around it, like the James Bond intro, for instance. Or, text at the bottom saying something like "Target locked." It's not a very interesting execution of the concept, and it's not a particularly clever spin.
Gig in Poland today. They will be shooting a video for the new single from DT's new album. Hope tonight's show is as awesome as last nights!!
IMHO, 'cause OTBOA has already done its work: over 1million views on youtube.
I think it was actually 1 million views by one person.
Spoiler Warning!
My first impressions of the album now up over at www.rich-wilson.com (https://www.rich-wilson.com)
I'm not reviewing the album for any mag so I thought I'd pop one up there.
Spoiler Warning!
My first impressions of the album now up over at www.rich-wilson.com (https://www.rich-wilson.com)
Would love to read it but can't get any pages on your site to work in either Safari or Firefox on my iMac?
That battle cry really has me intrigued. It will probably go down as the cheesy moment of the album. However, I am extremely intrigued by it. It ends with it too according to that last track by trackwhich one?
The Brazilian one that was translated a few pages backThat battle cry really has me intrigued. It will probably go down as the cheesy moment of the album. However, I am extremely intrigued by it. It ends with it too according to that last track by trackwhich one?
Ahhhh! I'm really tempted to read the review, but at the same time, I don't want any spoilers. I'm torn. :lol
Ahhhh! I'm really tempted to read the review, but at the same time, I don't want any spoilers. I'm torn. :lol
The main character leaves the band at the end.
Ahhhh! I'm really tempted to read the review, but at the same time, I don't want any spoilers. I'm torn. :lol
The main character leaves the band at the end.
Good review, but I take umbrage with the comment about there being bitterness that is still evident on both sides. How has the DT side showed any bitterness? And DT has never featured growling vocals, so how you can replace something that was never there? :Pthis
The video for On The Backs Of Angels was shot at yesterday's Poland show :metal :metal
I wish "Breaking All Illusions" was the album title.
I had butterflies in my stomach reading Rich's review. I didn't want to read it, but how could I not? I simply cannot wait to hear this album.
So is there any confirmation of yes instrumental/no instrumental?No confirmation on that yet :)
This. I am torn between starting to hunt for the leaks or wait until I will be able to clutch the CD with my bare hands.Do the latter. The experience of listening to an album for the first time is almost invariably enhanced by having the booklet's artwork to accompany it, especially with prog rock releases, which generally have quite amazing/interesting imagery within the booklet artwork.
So is there any confirmation of yes instrumental/no instrumental?
So is there any confirmation of yes instrumental/no instrumental?
>.>
Anyway, I'm willing to bet that if the epic Thomas Lang audition riff we all know and love appears on the album, I think it will appear in either BMUBMD or LNF, judging by the "epic riffs" description of both songs.
So is there any confirmation of yes instrumental/no instrumental?
I don't think there is. We have lyricisists identified/deduced for:
1. "On the Backs of Angels"
2. "Build Me Up, Break Me Down"
5. "Bridges in the Sky"
8. "Breaking All Illusions"
9. "Beneath the Surface"
And from Rich's review:
3. "Lost Not Forgotten" seems to have an "incredibly catch chorus"
4. "This is the Life" lyrics are quoted
6. "Outcry" has a "striking vocal melody"
Which leaves:
7. "Far from Heaven" which Rich calls a "lilting, heartfelt piano led track", and which I think the Brazilian review said was a vocal/piano duet
So is there any confirmation of yes instrumental/no instrumental?
I don't think there is. We have lyricisists identified/deduced for:
1. "On the Backs of Angels"
2. "Build Me Up, Break Me Down"
5. "Bridges in the Sky"
8. "Breaking All Illusions"
9. "Beneath the Surface"
And from Rich's review:
3. "Lost Not Forgotten" seems to have an "incredibly catch chorus"
4. "This is the Life" lyrics are quoted
6. "Outcry" has a "striking vocal melody"
Which leaves:
7. "Far from Heaven" which Rich calls a "lilting, heartfelt piano led track", and which I think the Brazilian review said was a vocal/piano duet
Wow, hats-off to you, my friend. Very nicely done :tup.
Similarly engaging is Bridges In The Sky, even if the unexpected sound of an Aboriginal battle cry that opens the track does sound a touch like The Simpson’s Barney Gumble cracking out a hearty burp down in Moe’s Tavern.I shuddered reading this.
Copyright: 2011 The All Blacks B.V.
The cover for OTBoA is just... really not what I would have pictured for that song.
Also, just something that stood out for me on the Amazon page for the single;QuoteCopyright: 2011 The All Blacks B.V.
Yeah, that's been on all their stuff since switching to RoadRunner. I don't get it either though.
Is there any site in Europe where I can pre-order ADToe(except Play.com, the don't ship in Croatia)? If I pre-order from RoadRunner Store when they will send it to me?
Check out cdwow.com - they have a few European sites, I don't know what country you are in, so have a look at the bottom.Thanks, but they don't ship to Croatia :-[
I forgot ;DIs there any site in Europe where I can pre-order ADToe(except Play.com, the don't ship in Croatia)? If I pre-order from RoadRunner Store when they will send it to me?
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/dreamtheaterdeluxe/ (https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/dreamtheaterdeluxe/)
Looks like they have several countries on their for pre-order
No band promo shots are.
In Poland all ADTOE first sell dates are set up for 9th September. Nice surprise ;) Have to check if it is all Europe or only my part.
I just found this picture while I was checking on Ticketmaster.comLooks cool. We need a bigger resolution, though... :smiley:
(https://media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-us/dbimages/86984a.jpg)
So, we'll get the ADTOE 4 days earlier than US?In Poland all ADTOE first sell dates are set up for 9th September. Nice surprise ;) Have to check if it is all Europe or only my part.
It's most likely all of Europe except for the UK, as far as I know.
I just found this picture while I was checking on Ticketmaster.comLooks cool. We need a bigger resolution, though... :smiley:
(https://media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-us/dbimages/86984a.jpg)
I just found this picture while I was checking on Ticketmaster.comLooks cool. We need a bigger resolution, though... :smiley:
(https://media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-us/dbimages/86984a.jpg)
This got scaled down, so right click and view the image.
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/BlobVanDam/csiapproach.jpg)
For those closely following the progress of the band's new job is a great enigma, as the final word on that hitherto had by Portnoy and many think it is a prime challenge for others to prove that they are doing without him.I changed my mind and decided to wait for your translation then. :biggrin:
I really thought that musicians like Petrucci, a Myung, Rudess, or the even the Labrie have reason to prove their worth or their ability?I guess this confirms that John Myung is a cyborg? and you cant describe the greatness of JLB with one the, you need two thes. :metal
The "Lost, Not Forgotten" is probably the most heavy song, pressing between "Train Of Thought" and "Scenes From A Memory", dynamic, with a straight character and the first orgies.Orgies! :metal
Off-topic, but Greek looks like a beautiful language.
At this point is the big win of this album.
As am I.QuoteAt this point is the big win of this album.
*excited for the big win*
As I am.As am I.QuoteAt this point is the big win of this album.
*excited for the big win*
As I am.As am I.QuoteAt this point is the big win of this album.
*excited for the big win*
orgies.
The lack of tordenperle krall on this disc disappoints me.Return to the root of funk.
Literally.
Return to the root of funk.Allready there.
But have you mobilized to contribute to the alliance?Return to the root of funk.Allready there.
Eh.. Yeah of course I have. And every Womp Rat is singing with new found joy.But have you mobilized to contribute to the alliance?Return to the root of funk.Allready there.
Labrie show really concise explanations, avoiding the contortions voice.didnt know JLB once was a contortionist :omg:
Labrie show really concise explanations, avoiding the contortions voice.didnt know JLB once was a contortionist :omg:
From what little I can make out from that review, I am excited. And yes, I have mobilized to contribute to the alliance.
I can preorder ADToE only from US site. Will I get it 9th or 13th September?Probably 15th or so, honestly, given delivery time. Just get it in-store on the ninth - the trip to the shop is always more exciting than waiting for the post anyway.
Of course.From what little I can make out from that review, I am excited. And yes, I have mobilized to contribute to the alliance.
With the first orgies?
There must be some kind of mass-alliance-contributing-mobilization organized.Literally.
Labrie show really concise explanations, avoiding the contortions voice.didnt know JLB once was a contortionist :omg:
Zook, I know you're reading this. Please make it happen.
2a. Sharing, requests for sharing, offers to share, or discussion of illegally obtaining pirated material is strictly prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to, warez, direct links, asking for links/files, and hinting at resources for finding the material.
GasparXR, please refer to the rules:Quote2a. Sharing, requests for sharing, offers to share, or discussion of illegally obtaining pirated material is strictly prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to, warez, direct links, asking for links/files, and hinting at resources for finding the material.
That is a warning.
I'm confused. Is the release date still the 13th?In US yes. In Europe 9th.
Lucky Europeans. :\I'm confused. Is the release date still the 13th?In US yes. In Europe 9th.
It's how things should be when you pay more for the same thing xdLucky Europeans. :\I'm confused. Is the release date still the 13th?In US yes. In Europe 9th.
Even, if this is a joke, in Poland prices of everything are now so high that You even cannot imagine...gas, tickets, even food is more expensive than ever in here, I'm not even writing about CD's... BC&SL boxset costs here sth about 580 PLN, which is almost 150 EUROS.... and almost 200 $...... :-\It's how things should be when you pay more for the same thing xdLucky Europeans. :\I'm confused. Is the release date still the 13th?In US yes. In Europe 9th.
It's how things should be when you pay more for the same thing xdLucky Europeans. :\I'm confused. Is the release date still the 13th?In US yes. In Europe 9th.
Dream Theater catches up with Roadrunner Records while at High Voltage. Check out the latest interview and get ready for new music tomorrow!
Yep, probably :D I'm excited but I don't know if I want to hear second song from unreelased album :P
OK, You win :angel:Yep, probably :D I'm excited but I don't know if I want to hear second song from unreelased album :P
Oh, sure Cody... :D
Someone confirm this asap.
It says they are posting a new song tomorrow?Someone confirm this asap.
Dream Theater's Facebook.
"New music tomorrow."Not really specific enough for me.
This is from the RR website:
With the impending release of DREAM THEATER's upcoming album, A Dramatic Turn Of Events, the band have decided to reveal a selection of album components and teasers to get you lot excited about the release (as if you need tempting!?). The first clip in the series is titled Bridges In The Sky and can be viewed on DREAM THEATER's official YouTube channel by CLICKING HERE.
So i guess there will be more snippets and teasers as we get closer to the release date...
Hey guys, we have a new entry in "wtf fictional DT releases", aka reputable sites putting up listings for things that flat out don't exist.In Poland is the same situation. You can find this DVD in every bigger store in music part. It's nothing more than Romavarium with different cover....
This time it's HMV.ca, with a Dream Theater DVD titled 'Panem & Circensis' that apparently came out on April 26th of this year. It can be yours for only $21.99! It's literally the second thing to come up on their site if you search Dream Theater.
https://hmv.ca/Products/Detail/613033.aspx
I know DT aren't the biggest band in the world, but you'd think a store, especially a large well known one, would make sure a product at least exists before listing it.
Hey guys, we have a new entry in "wtf fictional DT releases", aka reputable sites putting up listings for things that flat out don't exist.In Poland is the same situation. You can find this DVD in every bigger store in music part. It's nothing more than Romavarium with different cover....
This time it's HMV.ca, with a Dream Theater DVD titled 'Panem & Circensis' that apparently came out on April 26th of this year. It can be yours for only $21.99! It's literally the second thing to come up on their site if you search Dream Theater.
https://hmv.ca/Products/Detail/613033.aspx
I know DT aren't the biggest band in the world, but you'd think a store, especially a large well known one, would make sure a product at least exists before listing it.
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JM looks ageless as always.And he has his same old pose :lol :heart
:lolJM looks ageless as always.And he has his same old pose :lol :heart
And JP looks likes he can't bring his arms any closer to his body because his muscles are so big.
https://i55.tinypic.com/ekj0nk.jpg
I definitely like that, of the promo pics we've seen so far, they seem to have ditched the whole "TUFF METUL GUYZ RAWRRR!" approach.
Petrucci looks like Russell Allen in that picture.
...decided that the best answer, as in every situation I've been in, was to solve the situation with explosions.
Nice countdown, guys!
Nice countdown, guys!
Huh?
Y'know I'm actually finding that the closer we get to the release date, the easier the wait is for me. This is very unusual. :pSame. :lol
https://www.bol.com/nl/p/muziek/a-dramatic-cddvd/1000004011586857/index.html#product_overview
Does anyone know what the hell all this means?
Disk 1
1. On the Backs of Angels
2. Build Me Up, Break Me Down
3. Lost Not Forgotten
4. This Is the Life
5. Bridges in the Sky
6. Outcry
7. Far from Heaven
8. Breaking All Illusions
9. Beneath the Surface
Disk 2
1. The Spirit Carries On (Documentary DVD)
2. Chapter Selection Menu Loop (A Nightmare To Remember - Audition)
3. Wait for Sleep (Frag. 1)
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (Frag. 1)
5. Constant Motion (Frag. 1)
6. In the Presence of Enemies - Pt. 2 (Frag. 1)
7. Forsaken (Frag. 1)
8. Wither (Frag. 1)
9. The Count of Tuscany (Frag. 1)
10. The Dance of Eternity (Frag. 1)
11. The Best of Times (Frag. 1)
12. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (Frag. 2)
13. One Last Time (Frag. 1)
14. Beyond This Life (Frag. 1)
15. Learning To Live (Frag. 1)
16. The Count of Tuscany (Frag. 2)
17. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (Frag. 3)
18. A Change of Seasons (Frag. 1)
19. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (Frag. 4)
20. A Rite of Passage (Frag. 1)
21. A Rite of Passage (Frag. 2)
22. The Shattered Fortress (Frag. 1)
23. A Nightmare To Remember (Auditions) [frag. 1]
24. You Not Me (Frag. 1)
25. The Dance of Eternity (Auditions) [frag. 1]
26. These Walls (Frag. 1)
27. You Not Me (Frag. 2)
28. Blind Faith (Frag. 1)
29. The Ministry of Lost Souls (Frag. 1)
30. Audition Riff #1 (Frag. 1)
31. Forsaken (Frag. 2)
32. Learning To Live (Frag. 2)
33. Blind Faith (Frag. 2)
34. Take the Time (Frag. 1)
35. The Dance of Eternity (Auditions) [frag. 2]
36. The Spirit Carries On (Auditions) [frag. 1]
37. In the Name of God (Frag. 1)
38. Audition Jam #1 (Frag. 1)
39. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (Frag. 5)
40. Audition Riff #2 (Frag. 1)
41. Metropolis, Pt. 1: the Miracle and the Sleeper (Frag. 1)
42. Forsaken (Frag. 3)
43. A Nightmare To Remember (Auditions) [frag. 2]
44. The Dance of Eternity (Auditions) [frag. 3]
45. A Rite of Passage (Frag. 3)
46. Forsaken (Frag. 4)
47. Audition Riff #2 (Frag. 2)
48. Burning My Soul (Frag. 1)
49. Audition Riff #3 (Frag. 1)
50. Hell's Kitchen (Frag. 1)
51. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (Frag. 6)
52. In the Presence of Enemies Pt. 1 (Frag. 1)
53. Audition Jam #2 (Frag. 1)
54. Stream of Consciousness (Frag. 1)
55. A Nightmare To Remember (Auditions) [frag. 3]
56. The Dance of Eternity (Auditions) [frag. 4]
57. The Dance of Eternity (Auditions) [frag. 5]
58. 6:00 (Frag. 1)
59. Lie (Frag. 1)
60. Audition Riff #1 (Frag. 2)
61. A Nightmare To Remember (Frag. 1)
62. I Walk Beside You (Frag. 1)
63. The Count of Tuscany (Frag. 3)
64. Just Let Me Breathe (Frag. 1)
65. Audition Jam #3 (Frag. 1)
66. The Shattered Fortress (Frag. 2)
67. A Nightmare To Remember (Auditions) [frag. 4]
68. Caught In A Web (Frag. 1)
69. The Spirit Carries On (Frag. 1)
70. The Shattered Fortress (Frag. 3)
71. Audition Riff #1 (Frag. 3)
72. Metropolis, Pt. 1: the Miracle and the Sleeper (Frag. 2)
73. The Dark Eternal Night (Frag. 1)
74. The Root of All Evil (Frag. 1)
75. Audition Jam #4 (Frag. 1)
76. The Dance of Eternity (Auditions) [frag. 6]
77. Wither (Frag. 2)
78. The Best of Times (Frag. 2)
79. Audition Riff #4 (Frag. 1)
80. The Best of Times (Frag. 3)
81. Overture 1928 (Frag. 1)
82. Audition Jam #5 (Frag. 1)
83. A Nightmare To Remember (Auditions) [frag. 5]
84. A Change of Seasons (Frag. 2)
85. Octavarium (Frag. 1)
86. Constant Motion (Frag. 2)
87. Audition Riff #2 (Frag. 3)
88. Home (Frag. 1)
89. In the Name of God (Frag. 2)
90. Forsaken (Frag. 5)
91. Through Her Eyes (Frag. 1)
And now just to refresh my memory, the standard edition doesn't come with the doc?No but a fully educated nurse.
And now just to refresh my memory, the standard edition doesn't come with the doc?
I assume you've also noticed the change to the image on that homepage?Nice countdown, guys!
Huh?
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/
It's the final countdown! Du-du-du-duuuu!
I assume you've also noticed the change to the image on that homepage?Nice countdown, guys!
Huh?
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/
It's the final countdown! Du-du-du-duuuu!
Very nice, well done ;)I assume you've also noticed the change to the image on that homepage?Nice countdown, guys!
Huh?
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/
It's the final countdown! Du-du-du-duuuu!
Indeed I did, nice!
I assume you've also noticed the change to the image on that homepage?Nice countdown, guys!
Huh?
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/
It's the final countdown! Du-du-du-duuuu!
Also, I deleted a few posts from this thread. Can I remind everyone of what is in this sticky thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=24371.0
Even for all the fakes leaks out there, DO NOT POST THEM AND DO NOT DISCUSS THEM.
Guys, do we know if the CD/DVD edition on ADToE will be in a digipak or not?Just CD = 14$
Guys, do we know if the CD/DVD edition on ADToE will be in a digipak or not?
Gday peeps - apologies if this has been posted already, but for anyone in Australia, according to the JB Hi Fi website, the album will be released here on the 9th September, with the normal CD at $19.99, and the special edition with doco for $25.99. JB are usually pretty spot on with thier releases too..
Yeah, I feel like Roadrunner actually promoted this less than either previous RR-era album.
Yeah, I feel like Roadrunner actually promoted this less than either previous RR-era album.
???
A big "new drummer" documentary, frequent updates on the band/album including the new single being featured on the RR site (w/ over a million views!), releasing teasers in the run-up to release date, etc.? DT have been doing regular interviews, it's just that touring in Europe, most of those interviews have been with European publications. What more were you expecting?
Yeah, I feel like Roadrunner actually promoted this less than either previous RR-era album.
I feel like we had a lot more to go on at this time before the SC release at least.
So the DVD is just the Spirit Carries on Doc? :\
Sorry for being a noob but what's the DVD on the special edition version?
https://store.roadrunnerrecords.com/Exclusives/DREAM-THEATER-A-Dramatic-Turn-Of-Events-Sp-Ed-CD-DVD
So the DVD is just the Spirit Carries on Doc? :\
Yep. Sucks
Which is relase date for ADToE in Europe?
Thanks.Which is relase date for ADToE in Europe?
September 12th.
Which is relase date for ADToE in Europe?We have 9th September in Poland, even there are some announcements about it in some shops ;D :metal
Well. I'll get it anyway, because I wouldn't mind having a high quality version of it.The Youtube version is 720p meaning it's better than a low-resolution DVD.
I really would have loved to have seen the full auditions, or at the very least Mangini's full audition.
Source? ::)Which is relase date for ADToE in Europe?We have 9th September in Poland, even there are some announcements about it in some shops ;D :metal
Well. I'll get it anyway, because I wouldn't mind having a high quality version of it.The Youtube version is 720p meaning it's better than a low-resolution DVD.
The audio is still streaming at 96 kbps regardless of the 720p RESOLUTION setting.
I think I might just buy mine at HMV on the day it's released. I don't want to be stuck waiting for the CD to arrive a few days after!If it doesn't arrive in the post, I am absolutely doing that. And giving the spare to charity or something. Save it as a birthday present?
Mike Mangini Media & Info
The pre sale on the special edition of our New Album is Amazon's #1 top seller. Wait till you hear how the rest of the songs go (and where they go) beyond the tini snippets being posted :):):)
QuoteMike Mangini Media & Info
The pre sale on the special edition of our New Album is Amazon's #1 top seller. Wait till you hear how the rest of the songs go (and where they go) beyond the tini snippets being posted :):):)
All leads us to hope in a high chart position for ADTOE ::)
What's the argument of getting the special editition cd/dvd? A documentary that you can see on youtube for free?
No thank you.
What's the argument of getting the special editition cd/dvd? A documentary that you can see on youtube for free?
No thank you.
Why do you even bother to buy DT albums then?
What's the argument of getting the special editition cd/dvd? A documentary that you can see on youtube for free?
What's the argument of getting the special editition cd/dvd? A documentary that you can see on youtube for free?
I can't speak for anyone else, but MY argument for getting it is:
1. Things don't stay on YouTube forever. Now I'll have the whole thing in a permanent format.
2. Better quality and resolution, and I won't have buffering issues if I'm on a computer that doesn't have enough memory/bandwidth.
3. As a collector who tries to get everything that is at least reasonably priced, I don't mind shelling out a few more bucks for something I will ocasionally watch and enjoy.
4. Even though I am about 95% certain there will be no additional content, I am holding out hope on the very small chance there is something extra that we haven't seen in the YouTube versions. But mostly 1-3, since I realize this is an extremely remote possibility at this point.
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Well, I don't know if it is illegal or not (technically speaking it shouldn't be, because the whole process of viewing a video on the Tube features a download of the clip in your temp files folder) but I downloaded the HD clips from YouTube and now I have them in a more "permanent" format here. And the 720p vids have considerably better quality than a regular DVD format.What's the argument of getting the special editition cd/dvd? A documentary that you can see on youtube for free?
I can't speak for anyone else, but MY argument for getting it is:
1. Things don't stay on YouTube forever. Now I'll have the whole thing in a permanent format.
2. Better quality and resolution, and I won't have buffering issues if I'm on a computer that doesn't have enough memory/bandwidth.
3. As a collector who tries to get everything that is at least reasonably priced, I don't mind shelling out a few more bucks for something I will ocasionally watch and enjoy.
4. Even though I am about 95% certain there will be no additional content, I am holding out hope on the very small chance there is something extra that we haven't seen in the YouTube versions. But mostly 1-3, since I realize this is an extremely remote possibility at this point.
Mangini looks like he doesn't know what to do. I like that JP is in the middle on this one.
https://youtu.be/eA-e3hwzeQs
Has this link been posted yet? It explains the ticket for life. Petrucci says it lets you go to any DT show for the rest of your life. Basically what you dared to think it may be but expected not. That's what it sounds like.
Since it's in an officially released clip, I'm going to point out that the melody JR is screwing around with at 4:20 in the clip is from the new album, although it doesn't sound like samba on the CD :lol
I'm finding the background very confusing ???
Yeah, that slanty thing to JR's right and the fact that JLB seems to be sitting on thin air are just confusing for me. Nice shot though.
Yeah, that slanty thing to JR's right and the fact that JLB seems to be sitting on thin air are just confusing for me. Nice shot though.
JLB's leaning against the edge thingy.
The stuff behind JR is confusing though since you pointed it out. It's like a wall of concrete that stops at nothing and a building appears.
I think it's a pretty good photo though.
(https://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7963/33399611566042520033910.jpg)
They gotta get a new photographer; in this one it looks like MM and JM don't really know what to do with themselves, and I believe it was the same for MM in the previous promo photo.
17 days. The wait has gone back to driving me crazy again.
not sure i like this photo that much compared to the one that was released last week - hints of barrel distortion leaving a wide-angle effect on the members of the band and, strangely, quite a cluttered background.
To be fair though, the photo released last week (can't find the original at the moment, here's a photoshopped version - https://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/6364226/1024/Picture-Box/dt11window.gif) was pretty incredible!
17 days. The wait has gone back to driving me crazy again.
+1 At least it's not long now...hopefully time will fly by!
not sure i like this photo that much compared to the one that was released last week - hints of barrel distortion leaving a wide-angle effect on the members of the band and, strangely, quite a cluttered background.
To be fair though, the photo released last week (can't find the original at the moment, here's a photoshopped version - https://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/6364226/1024/Picture-Box/dt11window.gif) was pretty incredible!
Wow I never thought I'd see a complaint about barrel distortion in a Dream theater forum!
not sure i like this photo that much compared to the one that was released last week - hints of barrel distortion leaving a wide-angle effect on the members of the band and, strangely, quite a cluttered background.
To be fair though, the photo released last week (can't find the original at the moment, here's a photoshopped version - https://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/6364226/1024/Picture-Box/dt11window.gif) was pretty incredible!
Wow I never thought I'd see a complaint about barrel distortion in a Dream theater forum!
Barrel Distortion would be a cool song title.
not sure i like this photo that much compared to the one that was released last week - hints of barrel distortion leaving a wide-angle effect on the members of the band and, strangely, quite a cluttered background.
To be fair though, the photo released last week (can't find the original at the moment, here's a photoshopped version - https://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/6364226/1024/Picture-Box/dt11window.gif) was pretty incredible!
Wow I never thought I'd see a complaint about barrel distortion in a Dream theater forum!
Barrel Distortion would be a cool song title.
OUT OF CONTROL, MY LENS HAS BARREL DISTORTIOOOOOOOON
More samples:
*snip*
Just checking in and the countdown clock read...
11 days - 11 hours - 11 minutes - 11 seconds.
Just checking in and the countdown clock read...
11 days - 11 hours - 11 minutes - 11 seconds.
Just checking in and the countdown clock read...Awesome! :metal
11 days - 11 hours - 11 minutes - 11 seconds.
After reading through 15 pages of comments on 5/8, here is my re-vamped list of the tracks in order of anticipation:
1. Breaking all Illusions
2. Lost Not Forgotten
3. Bridges in the Sky
4. Outcry
5. Beneath the Surface
6. This is the Life
7. Build Me Up, Break Me Down
8. Far From Heaven
9. On the Backs of Angels
microphone port noise:rollin What makes this even funnier is that peto = beast in Finnish, so JP is John Beast-rushi! He really IS a bear after all...
John Petorushi
wanna know something that sucks? I was hoping to get paid in time to preorder the box set... or at least pre order the album... but I am broke till 2 days after it comes out. fml
microphone port noise
Continue to champion unleashed an overwhelming presence in the scene and a harbinger of progressive metal.
Continue to champion unleashed an overwhelming presence in the scene and a harbinger of progressive metal.
The only album I'm more excited for than ADTOE (Aside from the new Rush, whenever that comes out) is DT12
Patiently waiting... :crypt::crypt: ... and counting sheeps or whatever this is :p
That pic is amazing.
Look at that lack of SC between 8VM and BC&SL :laugh:
Was that pic taken in the Dream Theater Mansion?This needs to be a thread. :biggrin: What you have if you designed a DT house?
Was that pic taken in the Dream Theater Mansion?This needs to be a thread. :biggrin: What you have if you designed a DT house?
Look at that lack of SC between 8VM and BC&SL :laugh:Look again, there's the ants and watermelon
someone over at fiveeightforums said it's MP's DT Vault.... I don't believe it thoughWell yeah, why would Mangini be there. In the MP household, MM is persona non grata
Just read a review that gave the album 2-stars. Then again, the writer said it was 'their first album without Mark Portnoy' so I'm not really sure how seriously I can take it.
Look at that cool table.
(https://www.rocktopia.co.uk/plugins/content/contentoptimizer/ceae219791fb89e71b6723ea87937fb71f4932b4_576x487_Q75.jpeg)
Just found this at the bottom of an interview by Rocktopia with JR (added on august 18th) that i don't know if has been already posted
https://www.rocktopia.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=910:cd-reviews&id=1514:dream-theater-a-dramatic-turn-of-events&Itemid=121
ahhh! ha
What is that white blob behind JR?
On the subject of DT Marathons. I'm on Train of Thought. :PI'm on 6DOIT :) will be on TOT tomorrow ;)
(https://www.rocktopia.co.uk/plugins/content/contentoptimizer/ceae219791fb89e71b6723ea87937fb71f4932b4_576x487_Q75.jpeg)
Just found this at the bottom of an interview by Rocktopia with JR (added on august 18th) that i don't know if has been already posted
https://www.rocktopia.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=910:cd-reviews&id=1514:dream-theater-a-dramatic-turn-of-events&Itemid=121
Shit! Look at that fucking creepy doll staring at JM!
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Just found this at the bottom of an interview by Rocktopia with JR (added on august 18th) that i don't know if has been already posted
https://www.rocktopia.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=910:cd-reviews&id=1514:dream-theater-a-dramatic-turn-of-events&Itemid=121
Shit! Look at that fucking creepy doll staring at JM!
Dude, I didn't notice that! :omg:
-J
Well I'm doing Budokan tonight and Octavarium tomorrow. :P
ahhh! ha
What is that white blob behind JR?
I am quite sure our Blob could clarify your doubt :rollin
I started Friday I think. I listen to multiple albums per day. For example, I had no school yesterday so I did Once in a Livetime, Metropolis, Scenes from New York, and Six Degrees. Today I only did ToT and Budokan. Tomorrow is Octavrarium and Score. Thursday will be Systematic Chaos and the DVD that comes with it. Friday will be Black Clouds. And perfect timing because Saturday is A Dramatic Turn of Events. :metal :metal :metal
Damn, I'm just doin' the studio albums + Majesty demos and ACOS! :lol
-(The eventual live CD/DVD release we all know will come out because the first tour with MM is kind of a big deal)That's an awesome bootleg title.
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That is waaaaaay overkill. I would be so sick of DT very early on into that. I also don't see why the drum DVDs are necessary for the marathon either.
I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have any drum DVD's. And I'm not sick of DT. I only listen when I feel like it. I also listen to a lot of other stuff by other bands in between. It's not like I'm pounding down DT 24/7.post
That is waaaaaay overkill. I would be so sick of DT very early on into that. I also don't see why the drum DVDs are necessary for the marathon either.
I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have any drum DVD's. And I'm not sick of DT. I only listen when I feel like it. I also listen to a lot of other stuff by other bands in between. It's not like I'm pounding down DT 24/7.
2 days left for polish fans!! :metal :metal :metalHere too! Raaawk!
2 days left for polish fans!! :metal :metal :metalHere too! Raaawk!
Jordan looks like he's judging me.
What kind of forum is that? When I first heard about it I figured it was a DT forum but apparently nobody likes DT over there. :S
Then why post it?What kind of forum is that? When I first heard about it I figured it was a DT forum but apparently nobody likes DT over there. :S
***WARNING*** That thread contains MASSIVE SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/8 is almost like a brother site to DTF. when the original forums asploded it spit a couple times and went through many incarnations until all that remained was DTF.org and 5/8. 5/8, however, is not a Dream Theater forum. It's merely a continuation of that community that moved there.
Then why post it?What kind of forum is that? When I first heard about it I figured it was a DT forum but apparently nobody likes DT over there. :S
***WARNING*** That thread contains MASSIVE SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was being very general because I wasn't there. :P
You know the album's going to kick ass, based on this pic
(https://www.dprp.net/wp/interviews/files/2011/09/DT0069_HR.jpg)
Out of all five people, you can see 8 fingers. :lol
So Jordan tweeted that the album premiered at #1 in Japan.
Out of all five people, you can see 8 fingers. :lol
Out of all five people, you can see 8 fingers. :lolomgnugget
I can play every song on there and 5/8 isn't that prominent.Out of all five people, you can see 8 fingers. :lol
Most of Octavarium is written in 5/8, IIRC... Octavarium was DT's eighth album and it has eight songs... The title track has 5 sections... The album was released in 2005...
Pretty sure there are more nuggets about Octavarium related to 5 and 8, but I can't recall any at the moment.
I can play every song on there and 5/8 isn't that prominent.
I can play every song on there and 5/8 isn't that prominent.Out of all five people, you can see 8 fingers. :lol
Most of Octavarium is written in 5/8, IIRC... Octavarium was DT's eighth album and it has eight songs... The title track has 5 sections... The album was released in 2005...
Pretty sure there are more nuggets about Octavarium related to 5 and 8, but I can't recall any at the moment.
I noticed, JP has 2 fingers showing. JLB has 3 fingers showing, and JR has 3 fingers showing also.:rollin
TRAPPED INSIDE THIS OCTAVARIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM
Has anybody from the UK who ordered the boxset got their copy of the album from Roadrunner yet...I haven't had an email and it's not available in the account downloads :(
YES!!!!AT LEAST!!!!
That is CD/DVD version. It's in very nice digipack, and what is interesting booklet is sticked to the case :) You cannot take it out of digipack which is interesting idea :) Artwork is really nice :) Regular version comes with a normal jewel case.
LOLYES!!!!AT LEAST!!!!
At least what? lol.
Haha, You see, I think my english really sucks :P hehe I was so happy about getting my copy that I have made a little mistake... i was about to write like that:LOLYES!!!!AT LEAST!!!!
At least what? lol.
That is CD/DVD version. It's in very nice digipack, and what is interesting booklet is sticked to the case :) You cannot take it out of digipack which is interesting idea :) Artwork is really nice :) Regular version comes with a normal jewel case.So the case is the same as the one for Black Clouds?
Yeah it's very similar. Case is opening and on the left there is a place for CD with album, on the right there is place for DVD. In the middle you can find a booklet which is glued to the case ;)That is CD/DVD version. It's in very nice digipack, and what is interesting booklet is sticked to the case :) You cannot take it out of digipack which is interesting idea :) Artwork is really nice :) Regular version comes with a normal jewel case.So the case is the same as the one for Black Clouds?