Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread

[BlackInk]

I just read it in the synopsis someone posted of the episode on IMDb. I also heard it in a YouTube review recently. And since I doubt they are the same people, apparently it's a thing to have understood it that way.

[cramx3]

Im confused as to what you guys are talking about, but from facebook:

*CLINK*
Raise a glass & congratulate Game of Thrones, Peter Dinklage, Diana Rigg & Lena Headey on their 2014 Emmy nominations.

[Accelerando]

 

Guys, guys, guys! Watch this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHhhLuPN7Qo


 

[BlackInk]

The intrument playing was cool, but I thought it was really disappointing that he kept going with the really low voice. I wish he would have at least raised it an octave.

[Accelerando]

I felt it stayed true to the original song, but yeah i agree to an extent it would've been way epic if his vocals got a bit higher. It now makes me want Roy Khan to take a shot at this

[masterthes]

JONATHAN FRIGGIN PRYCE NEXT SEASON!!! 

[Genowyn]

Arianne? Greyjoys? Shavepate?

If they seriously kept Areo Hotah in the show and cut, say, Victarion, then I don't even...

I know there's still plenty of time for casting announcements, but geez.

[cramx3]

Arianne? Greyjoys? Shavepate?

If they seriously kept Areo Hotah in the show and cut, say, Victarion, then I don't even...

I know there's still plenty of time for casting announcements, but geez.

Ask and you shall receive

https://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/25/new-cast-members-game-thrones-season-5-announced/

sadly no greyjoys or arianne

[RuRoRul]

Yeah, the fact that there is no Arianne Martell makes me hopeful that this cast list doesn't mean Greyjoys are cut. They surely won't have the Dorne storyline but cut the main POV character down there (as well as the main example to show the different inheritance laws in Dorne which should be important for the storyline if they still want to crown Myrcella), so I've got to assume the new cast list is incomplete and still missing some major roles.

Also no "Griff" or "Young Griff" cast. Even though Yezzan is cast so Tyrion's story will pass the point where he meets them. Either some major roles cast have still to be announced or there are some major storyline cuts coming. Obviously I don't know what happens eventually so don't know which storylines are most expendable, but I definitely wouldn't have picked the Greyjoy story to cut - it's one of the best stories of books 4 and 5 and then one with the most momentum.

[bertoltus]

I'm not an expert for this, but maybe they approached specific actors for the Greyjoy storyline and are still negotiating. After all, most of the Dorne characters are rather young, while I imagined Euron and Victarion as men in their forties, or at least looking like it due to their lifestyle.

[Dimitrius]

The fact that either of the Griffs and no Greyjoys were annoucned gives me hope that GRRM may release TWoW without the show spoiling too much of the story going forward. That is of course if the show doesn't cut those people, which I cannot believe they'll do.

[senecadawg2]

How old was Oberyn when he started spawning beautiful daughters? 8? 9? Most of those women look like they could/should be his sisters 

[Dimitrius]

14

[senecadawg2]

Lol. I'm still pissed that he didn't wear a helmet 

[Podaar]

 Jonathan Pryce should be able to add just the right amount of "ick" to his character. I'll look forward to it!!

 

[Genowyn]

They describe Trystane as being Doran's heir which means we get no Arianne OR Quentyn.

Now, Quentyn we didn't necessarily need, and maybe they're planning to merge Arianne with Myrcella (hence the recast) and Trystane with Quentyn?

A funny comment from westeros.org re: Manderly: "Lord Too-Fat-to-Make-the-Cast". There is some hope we might get him and some other Northern characters (and IRONBORN?!) later this year since filming for the North doesn't start until later.

People seem nervous over there for the Griffs, too, but there is a chance we might have Young Griff introduced the same way as Ramsay: an unnamed character whose casting is unannounced, and whose importance is not revealed until much later in the season.

Or we could be looking at "Porn Dorne" next year as some people are calling it.

[cramx3]

It should also be noted that George RR Martin stated he will have nothing to do with the 5th season of the show which is kind of important.  He wrote at least one episode every season including the battle at Blackwater Bay.  He also contributed to cast selection and worked with the writers/creators of the show. 

He stated his reason was to focus on the new book, but I wonder if the show is going to start to diverge a lot next year and that he does not want to be involved anymore (those are just my thoughts).  The leaving out of Arianne seems like a really big change from the books and the fact that we dont yet have any ironborn cast also is a big difference as those were big parts of AFFC.  I still think the show will be great, but Im not feeling like there is going to be much similarity between the books and shows from here on out (and since we dont have any new books I guess we wont be able to confirm if the show and book are following the same path anyway).

[Dimitrius]

I think people are overreacting over those castings. Just because they didn't show Arianne (though that description for Trystane is worrisome), Greyjoys or the Griffs doesn't mean they're cut. Do they not realize how much story there's to tell about Jaime, Cersei, Arya, Sam, Jon and Daenerys?

They could easily not show up until next season.

[hefdaddy42]

True.  That, combined with the fact that I trust the show's producers completely = hef is not worried.

[Genowyn]

I think people are overreacting over those castings. Just because they didn't show Arianne (though that description for Trystane is worrisome), Greyjoys or the Griffs doesn't mean they're cut. Do they not realize how much story there's to tell about Jaime, Cersei, Arya, Sam, Jon and Daenerys?

They could easily not show up until next season.

There have been some troubling comments from D&D, particularly one about how they don't want to let the cast grow anymore. Considering how many new characters show up in Feast and Dance, I'm not sure how they intend to pull that off without cutting  a lot of people.

[hefdaddy42]

A lot of people have already been cut through natural attrition.

[RuRoRul]

Yeah after hearing a bit more (particularly that Trystane was described as the heir to Dorne) I am convinced Arriane Martell could be cut.

(Potential unmarked minor spoilers could follow - not of any major events though, just some of my opinions on new characters and stories)

I'm not too bothered about losing her as a character, but if it's true I think it's a strange decision. It doesn't seem like the natural cutting down on characters (which I'm all for). The Dorne storyline (and the Greyjoy storyline funnily enough) is told in a rather unfocused way through 3 POV characters, but Arriane Martell is basically the main POV character for it in the books so far. The Sand Snakes are basically there to add colour and Trystane is like the Rickon of Dorne - yet they cast Trystane and 3 Sand Snakes.

My guess is the reason behind it is they wanted to add as many of Oberyn Martell's daughters as possible to cash in on the Oberyn love. Obara Sand will probably fulfill Arriane Martell's role in the story.

I understand why they'd do that, but it disappoints me for a couple of reasons: 1. The different inheritance laws (gender neutral) make Dorne a bit different and interesting (and may be important for the plot), and having the heir to Dorne be a woman does a better job of making that point than repeated exposition.  2. It raises doubts about them referencing any marriage alliances or planning future ones, which I thought were important for Doran's plans and the Dorne story in general. Dorne may not look down on bastards, but that doesn't mean they are as worthy a match as the heir to Dorne for someone like Viserys, or (f)Aegon.

I'm all for the show making changes and cuts, and seeing the show's changes to A Feast For Crows and A Dance With Dragons (which I think have some awfully meandering storylines which are in need of the focusing and tightening the TV show would bring) was one of the main things I was looking forward to. But I think I may need to recalibrate my expectations in terms of how different things will be, especially with the 7 seasons plan. In season 2 and 3, a storyline like Arya getting captured and then wandering around in the Riverlands was distilled to the essentials and received an awesome show-only addition (interactions with Tywin), and I was looking forward to seeing some storylines from books 4 and 5 get the same treatment. But now I think that any storyline that doesn't serve the endgame or complicates things unnecessarily will get completely cut (Quentyn, Aegon, possibly the Greyjoys, which is a shame since it's one of my favourite from books 4 and 5) and the existing stories will have a lot more differences / additions, and be a lot quicker paced.

Anyway, whatever differences may be coming I'm looking forward to it greatly. I love the intricacy and depth of the books which obviously a TV show can't match, but I think the show deals with the essential story and characters even better.

[Genowyn]

But if Dany is the 'main' storyline, then certainly Euron and Victarion are important. We can lose Damphair I guess, he doesn't matter than much, but The Iron Captain and Crow's Eye are pretty major characters. Quent only seemed to exist in the books to give us an extra POV in Meereen/Volantis, which the show doesn't need, so I'm not too worried about him, either. But Arianne being cut (unless someone else takes her place) seems to be a pretty strong indicator that we'll end up with Griffs being cut.

I've heard the show plans to cut Volantis (not sure of the veracity of that), which might make sense if they plan to cut Vic and they don't need to introduce Moqorro.

It's also sort of troubling that, if, say, the Ironborns and Griffs are cut, and D&D know about the endgame, that seems to indicate these characters don't seem to matter in the long term story of the books either... Unlike, say, Mago, who was killed off unnecessarily but can just be replaced by pretty much any random Dothraki in the TV show later on, in the books Martin seems to be building up these characters as major players in the future, by completely cutting their storylines it would seem to indicate that they are not.

edit: On a lighter note:

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Game of Thrones Season 4: Comic-Con 2014 Panel

Contains no spoilers for S5 just so you know. John Bradley is pretty funny.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Guys, guys, guys! Watch this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHhhLuPN7Qo


 

Pretty cool I think this tops it slightly though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTrRT-ZpY28

[Xenon]

Game of Thrones Season 4: Comic-Con 2014 Panel

Contains no spoilers for S5 just so you know. John Bradley is pretty funny.

Oh god Rose Leslie it's so beautiful 

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

https://www.zimbio.com/quiz/hpbWxCCmzMR/Game+Thrones+Character?result=cjNVCLxxBWE



Yea yea that's great and all but soon or later I still get my head choped off....

[Bolsters]

[Zydar]

Don't lose your head over these results.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

[Progmetty]

My wife had finally talked me into watching this show even though I've always found anything with a medieval European look so dull and avoided tons of other shows she watches because of that. But anyway this was too critically acclaimed to brush off so I binged on it the last couple of weeks and wasn't disappointed, great show.
I was crushed when Joffery died, my hopes had driven me to believe a scenario where he falls prisoner to Ramsay Bolton at some point were too great heh

[cramx3]

My wife had finally talked me into watching this show even though I've always found anything with a medieval European look so dull and avoided tons of other shows she watches because of that. But anyway this was too critically acclaimed to brush off so I binged on it the last couple of weeks and wasn't disappointed, great show.
I was crushed when Joffery died, my hopes had driven me to believe a scenario where he falls prisoner to Ramsay Bolton at some point were too great heh

My coworker was just like you.  He said he didnt care for it because he wasnt into the medieval fantasy aspect, regardless he gave it a shot and in two weeks was all caught up and loving it.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

I can't believe we're getting new episodes until April. That breaks my heart.

[FracturedMirror]

[Progmetty]

^ It's not just that, it's also that you only get 10 episodes per season, were among things I didn't like about watching this while it's still running as oppose to waiting for it to be done and just binging.
I wish The Walking Dead was an HBO show so they would get better actors, better writers and more freedom with the show instead of all the dimwits AMC has working on it.