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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6895 on: January 20, 2016, 01:35:26 PM »
:flame:

What makes you think TA is more commercial?

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« Reply #6896 on: January 20, 2016, 01:38:03 PM »
Mike Portnoy is the most overrated drummer on the planet
Well, I agree with you there!

Rich Chycki has ruined DT's production quality and has successfully made Mike Mangini sound wholly average, which he definitely isn't.
Agree here too...


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« Reply #6897 on: January 20, 2016, 01:40:58 PM »
Commence the flames.

No need to flame.  But since you obviously came here from 5/8 just to troll, I am happy to send you back to where you came from.  You don't get to insult the band (comments like calling someone "washed up," for example) in the guise of posting a "controversial opinion."
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« Reply #6898 on: January 20, 2016, 01:42:40 PM »
My controversial opinion(s):

Dream Theater hasn't released a great album in nearly 2 decades.

The band cares less about their fans than they ever have.

Dream Theater is becoming more and more commercial by the album (and TA will be no exception)

James Labrie is beyond washed up and needs to retire.

Hiring David Campbell means that DT have finally jumped the shark.  He is the king of pop music.

Mike Portnoy is the most overrated drummer on the planet, but did a great job producing DT's music.

Rich Chycki has ruined DT's production quality and has successfully made Mike Mangini sound wholly average, which he definitely isn't.

Marco Minnemann would have been a much better drummer for the band, but I think DT would have held HIM back creatively.

Commence the flames.


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« Reply #6899 on: January 20, 2016, 01:43:03 PM »
This comment actually irritated me the most.

The band cares less about their fans than they ever have.

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« Reply #6900 on: January 20, 2016, 01:43:16 PM »
Commence the flames.

No need to flame.  But since you obviously came here from 5/8 just to troll, I am happy to send you back to where you came from.  You don't get to insult the band (comments like calling someone "washed up," for example) in the guise of posting a "controversial opinion."

well TBH bosky, 5/8 has been down for days :)

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« Reply #6901 on: January 20, 2016, 01:45:40 PM »
Commence the flames.

No need to flame.  But since you obviously came here from 5/8 just to troll, I am happy to send you back to where you came from.  You don't get to insult the band (comments like calling someone "washed up," for example) in the guise of posting a "controversial opinion."

What is 5/8?
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6902 on: January 20, 2016, 01:46:16 PM »
well TBH bosky, 5/8 has been down for days :)
That would explain why he got bored and came here.
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« Reply #6903 on: January 20, 2016, 01:47:53 PM »
My controversial opinion(s):

Dream Theater hasn't released a great album in nearly 2 decades.

The band cares less about their fans than they ever have.

Dream Theater is becoming more and more commercial by the album (and TA will be no exception)

James Labrie is beyond washed up and needs to retire.

Hiring David Campbell means that DT have finally jumped the shark.  He is the king of pop music.

Mike Portnoy is the most overrated drummer on the planet, but did a great job producing DT's music.

Rich Chycki has ruined DT's production quality and has successfully made Mike Mangini sound wholly average, which he definitely isn't.

Marco Minnemann would have been a much better drummer for the band, but I think DT would have held HIM back creatively.

Commence the flames.

Your first and 7th point are reasonable (though I think very differently) but the rest are just  :facepalm: and some are either borderline or actually bashing. Also, a 2hr 10min rock opera being the most commercial thing they've done?  :rollin

Commence the flames.

No need to flame.  But since you obviously came here from 5/8 just to troll, I am happy to send you back to where you came from.  You don't get to insult the band (comments like calling someone "washed up," for example) in the guise of posting a "controversial opinion."

What is 5/8?

Another forum that (iirc) used to be a DT based forum.

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« Reply #6904 on: January 20, 2016, 01:48:58 PM »
well TBH bosky, 5/8 has been down for days :)
That would explain why he got bored and came here.

I don't think he is the only one.

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« Reply #6905 on: January 20, 2016, 01:49:37 PM »
well TBH bosky, 5/8 has been down for days :)
That would explain why he got bored and came here.

are you projecting on me right now????? :(

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« Reply #6906 on: January 20, 2016, 01:53:42 PM »
well TBH bosky, 5/8 has been down for days :)
That would explain why he got bored and came here.

are you projecting on me right now????? :(
No, I don't think he is.

What's up, Bacong?

What is 5/8?
Oh, you'd love it there.
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« Reply #6907 on: January 20, 2016, 01:54:22 PM »
well TBH bosky, 5/8 has been down for days :)
That would explain why he got bored and came here.

I don't think he is the only one.

There seems to be an influx these past few days. It's all coming together now.

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« Reply #6908 on: January 20, 2016, 01:58:02 PM »
well TBH bosky, 5/8 has been down for days :)
That would explain why he got bored and came here.

are you projecting on me right now????? :(
No, I don't think he is.

What's up, Bacong?


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« Reply #6909 on: January 20, 2016, 02:04:52 PM »
 ???  I just meant, "Hey, what's up?  Long time no see!"
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« Reply #6910 on: January 20, 2016, 02:09:33 PM »
???  And I think he just meant, "Not much."  As in, "Not much."
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« Reply #6911 on: January 20, 2016, 02:13:25 PM »
???  And I think he just meant, "Not much."  As in, "Not much."

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« Reply #6912 on: January 20, 2016, 02:44:24 PM »
Yeah, that is the main part of it, but it has many branches that go all throughout the city now.  When were you in Folsom, and where are you now?
I left back in 99 - Born and raised in "SacraTOMATO".  Folsom has changed quite a bit and grew a lot so it makes sense they would expand those trails.  I'm out in the Midwest now.  The geography is not as good (no mountains or oceans) but the people are a little more in line with my way of thinking.  It was getting tough living on the "left" coast . . . oh wait maybe I can't say that (Checks thread title) . . . no, i'm good.

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« Reply #6913 on: January 20, 2016, 02:50:07 PM »
My controversial opinion(s):

Dream Theater hasn't released a great album in nearly 2 decades.

The band cares less about their fans than they ever have.

Dream Theater is becoming more and more commercial by the album (and TA will be no exception)

James Labrie is beyond washed up and needs to retire.

Hiring David Campbell means that DT have finally jumped the shark.  He is the king of pop music.

Mike Portnoy is the most overrated drummer on the planet, but did a great job producing DT's music.

Rich Chycki has ruined DT's production quality and has successfully made Mike Mangini sound wholly average, which he definitely isn't.

Marco Minnemann would have been a much better drummer for the band, but I think DT would have held HIM back creatively.

Commence the flames.

You know, it's funny, because whenever I see your username, the post under it is always something irrationally negative about DT. I have no idea if you're a troll or not, but at this point I just dismissed everything you say in your posts as drivel.

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« Reply #6914 on: January 20, 2016, 02:56:36 PM »
What is 5/8?

It's where you go when you get banned from DTF for being a douche, I think bans here actually come with a recommendation to register at 5/8.
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« Reply #6915 on: January 20, 2016, 05:39:30 PM »
MY Controversial Opinion on DT:

I just fucking love james labrie voice!
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« Reply #6916 on: January 20, 2016, 05:48:29 PM »
MY Controversial Opinion on DT:

I just fucking love james labrie voice!

I don't think that would be particularly controversial on a forum dedicated to DT.  :lol

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« Reply #6917 on: January 20, 2016, 07:53:25 PM »
MY Controversial Opinion on DT:

I just fucking love james labrie voice!

I don't think that would be particularly controversial on a forum dedicated to DT.  :lol

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« Reply #6918 on: January 21, 2016, 06:17:37 AM »
MY Controversial Opinion on DT:

I just fucking love james labrie voice!

I actually agree.  He's the reason I got into the band in the first place.    I've come to love other things over the years (nuggetz, Mike Portnoy...) and I've come to not really like him as a person or front man, but his voice... velvet, as far as I am concerned.

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« Reply #6919 on: January 21, 2016, 06:51:27 AM »
But James gets a lot of grief. So huge support for him, while not necessarily controversial, is certainly welcomed.

I too love James' voice and think he is amazing. DT is my favorite band because of the emotion I feel listening to them, and the vocals are really a primary reason for that.
That said, I don't find anything remotely interesting about James' solo albums, so to me, it's really how he fits in with DT that shows what a perfect fit he is for them.

I know live he's hit and miss, but I think he has an overall pretty good track record, especially over the last dozen years. I've said that no band of this ilk asks so much of their singer in a live setting than DT.
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« Reply #6920 on: January 21, 2016, 06:52:33 AM »
MY Controversial Opinion on DT:

I just fucking love james labrie voice!

I actually agree.  He's the reason I got into the band in the first place.    I've come to love other things over the years (nuggetz, Mike Portnoy...) and I've come to not really like him as a person or front man, but his voice... velvet, as far as I am concerned.

Not really trying to poke, but you are literally the only person I have ever heard say they didn't like JLB. It seems like everyone who meets him seems to think he's really nice and funny, and honestly that's how he's always come across to me in interviews, press, etc... Care to elaborate at all?

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« Reply #6921 on: January 21, 2016, 06:57:48 AM »
???  And I think he just meant, "Not much."  As in, "Not much."

 :rollin
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« Reply #6922 on: January 21, 2016, 07:41:15 AM »
I don't find anything remotely interesting about James' solo albums

 :omg:

I love JLB voice and style, including his solo band.  I think he performs better on his last two solo albums than in DT, maybe because he doesn't have to perform those songs live.

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« Reply #6923 on: January 21, 2016, 08:19:21 AM »
I don't find anything remotely interesting about James' solo albums

 :omg:

I love JLB voice and style, including his solo band.  I think he performs better on his last two solo albums than in DT, maybe because he doesn't have to perform those songs live.

As I've said before, JLB's last 3 solo albums are better than DT's last 3 albums.  Simple as that.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #6924 on: January 21, 2016, 08:30:47 AM »
I wouldn't agree with "better" but they are definitely fantastic.
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« Reply #6925 on: January 21, 2016, 08:37:06 AM »
Dream Theater is becoming more and more commercial by the album (and TA will be no exception)

>Commercial
>2 hour and 15 minutes long double album concept/prog rock opera

Pick one.
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« Reply #6926 on: January 21, 2016, 08:51:35 AM »
Dream Theater is becoming more and more commercial by the album (and TA will be no exception)

>Commercial
>2 hour and 15 minutes long double album concept/prog rock opera

Pick one.
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« Reply #6927 on: January 21, 2016, 09:41:25 AM »
I don't find anything remotely interesting about James' solo albums

 :omg:

I love JLB voice and style, including his solo band.  I think he performs better on his last two solo albums than in DT, maybe because he doesn't have to perform those songs live.

As I've said before, JLB's last 3 solo albums are better than DT's last 3 albums.  Simple as that.  :biggrin:

I have Static Impulse, and I like it very much (though I like DT better; sorry).  But it's not a zero sum game, right?

So help me out:  are the "Mullmuzzler" albums similar?  Are they just solo albums with a band name on them?  Of the three "JLB" records, which is the best? 

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« Reply #6928 on: January 21, 2016, 09:50:22 AM »
So help me out:  are the "Mullmuzzler" albums similar?  Are they just solo albums with a band name on them?  Of the three "JLB" records, which is the best? 

The style is different.  I didn't like the Mullmuzzler albums much.  But I have not listened to them in a very long time and cannot really give you specifics.  Of the "JLB" solo albums, I would rank them thus:
1.  Impermanent Resonance:  By far, the best of the three.  The blend of pop and modern metal is sublime.  Matt truly wrote some outstanding music, and the performers all shined.
2.  Elements of Persuasion:  Fun album with some catchy songs.
3.  Static Impulse:  Sonically, I find it similar to Impermanent Resonance.  However, Impermanent Resonance stands head and shoulders above this one, in my opinion. 
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« Reply #6929 on: January 21, 2016, 10:19:37 AM »
I agree with Bosk1.  The last 3 JLB releases are a big step up ( I think) from the Mullmuzzler series.  That's why I compared only the last 3 JLB releases to the last 3 DT releases.  Another reason I made the comparisons is that JLB's releases have gotten progressively better.  DT's have not within that same time span.
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