Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[Tomislav95]

I think, in this moment, Honor Thy Father is in my top 30 favorite DT songs (it doesn't look so good but considering many people dislike it, I think it is controversial ). Great drumming, very good vocal melodies (other than spoken/rapping parts among better ones in heavy DT song), awesome keyboard solo.

[efx]

My little opinion: These Walls is by far the best track on Octavarium. It's definitely in my top 10 list of all time DT songs.

[BlobVanDam]

My little opinion: These Walls is by far the best track on Octavarium. It's definitely in my top 10 list of all time DT songs.

It would be a tough call between that and Octavarium for me (hard to compare such different songs), but I also rank it extremely highly. Such a beautiful song.

[Sacul]

Repentance is their best ballad after Disappear imo. And I don't feel it drags, at all.

[Train of Naught]

TW is so weird for me, first I disliked it, then at some point I started to appreciate it and it was in my like, top three 8VM songs, and now it's back at the bottom three. Is Sacrificed Sons as a tie for favorite 8VM song controversial?

[jakepriest]

Repentance is their best ballad. And I don't feel it drags, at all.

And it's not even a contest. Overall I feel that DT's ballads are incredibly subpar and boring apart from a few exceptions.

Is Sacrificed Sons as a tie for favorite 8VM song controversial?

Not sure, but it's in my top 3 after Octavarium and TROAE.

[efx]

My little opinion: These Walls is by far the best track on Octavarium. It's definitely in my top 10 list of all time DT songs.

It would be a tough call between that and Octavarium for me (hard to compare such different songs), but I also rank it extremely highly. Such a beautiful song.

It really is beautiful. Everything from the scaled down orchestrations of the verse to JR's awesome piano work in the bridge to that awesome guitar melody/solo and the bitching outro just makes it a really coherent song that is just as perfect as anything they have done. I have known it since its release in 2005 and it's never wavered for me.

[CDrice]

Is Sacrificed Sons as a tie for favorite 8VM song controversial?

It depends if you mean tied with Never Enough. Then I'd say yes.

[MirrorMask]

My little opinion: These Walls is by far the best track on Octavarium. It's definitely in my top 10 list of all time DT songs.

Love that song, one of the best concise songs they've ever made. Wonderful chorus, the whole flows nicely, it has a mood that does not get derailed with a 3 minute solo, it's just a nice simple perfect song. Would love to hear it live again.

[NotePad]

I wish Dream Theater nowadays didn't take so much influence from 'new' bands, like Red. It's okay to have different influences, i mean I always liked the effect Tool's music had on ToT and parts of 6 Degrees, but sometimes it's a bit too much. Inmy opinion, of course ;p

[Train of Naught]

I wish Dream Theater nowadays didn't take so much influence from 'new' bands, like Red. It's okay to have different influences, i mean I always liked the effect Tool's music had on ToT and parts of 6 Degrees, but sometimes it's a bit too much. Inmy opinion, of course ;p

If anything I thought Tool's music had influence on SFAM

It depends if you mean tied with Never Enough. Then I'd say yes.

No, I was talking about The Answer Lies Within.

[425]

My little opinion: These Walls is by far the best track on Octavarium. It's definitely in my top 10 list of all time DT songs.

It would be a tough call between that and Octavarium for me (hard to compare such different songs), but I also rank it extremely highly. Such a beautiful song.

Yeah, These Walls is a definite second for me after Octavarium, and fits cleanly into my top 25.

Repentance is their best ballad after Disappear imo. And I don't feel it drags, at all.

I like Repentance more than most, but I like Disappear less than most. Wait for Sleep, Far From Heaven, Space Dye Vest and Vacant are better than both, in my opinion.

[Tomislav95]

Repentance is really underrated here. One of the best song on SC (I think I already said that recently).

[King Postwhore]

Repentance is really underrated here. One of the best song on SC (I think I already said that recently).

It's the opposite for me. For some reason it my least favorite song from that album.

[Sacul]

I just love the atmosphere of it, the vocal lines, and the amazing instrumentation. And dat solo 

[Evermind]

I don't think Repentance is one of the best songs on SC, but it's far from the worst indeed. I agree that all Disappear, Wait for Sleep, Far From Heaven, Space-Dye Vest and Vacant are better than it though.

[Tomislav95]

While we're at it, did you guys hear live version of Repentance with Mikael Akerfeldt of Opeth on vocals? Awesome.

[IDontNotDoThings]

 IWBY & TALW < These Walls < every other song on Octavarium

[pcs90]

My little opinion: These Walls is by far the best track on Octavarium. It's definitely in my top 10 list of all time DT songs.

I love TW. There are a lot of other great tracks on that album, but TW is probably my favorite overall.

[Rodni Demental]

TW and IWBY might be my least favorite tracks on 8vm, I prefer NE over those two. Although IWBY is at the bottom, TW grew on me a lot when I saw some of the more recent live versions.

As for Repentance, I think it's fantastic! Love the vocal harmonics, that thick girgling bass and the chord progressions and dat guitar solo.

[Lucien]

My little opinion: These Walls is by far the best track on Octavarium. It's definitely in my top 10 list of all time DT songs.

It's also DT's best song.

[jakepriest]

My little opinion: These Walls is by far the best track on Octavarium. It's definitely in my top 10 list of all time DT songs.

It's also DT's best song.

Was expecting you sooner when there's a debate about TW. 

[Sacul]

TW is one of DT's most emotional songs imo, and top 3 on the album, sharing the summit with 8VM and Never Enough, which I think doesn't get enough love here.

[Crow]

TW is a song I wish I appreciated more than I do but it's pretty good, yeah

TROAE is the best song off 8vm though and easily top 5 DT 

[OnTheBacksofAngela]

TW is a song I wish I appreciated more than I do but it's pretty good, yeah

TROAE is the best song off 8vm though and easily top 5 DT 

Interesting, you didn't choose 8vm. I don't see that choice that often. Why is that?

[Cable]

I think, in this moment, Honor Thy Father is in my top 30 favorite DT songs (it doesn't look so good but considering many people dislike it, I think it is controversial ). Great drumming, very good vocal melodies (other than spoken/rapping parts among better ones in heavy DT song), awesome keyboard solo.

 

Love the song. Some sweet riffs, the instrumental breakdown is solid.

[Crow]

TW is a song I wish I appreciated more than I do but it's pretty good, yeah

TROAE is the best song off 8vm though and easily top 5 DT 

Interesting, you didn't choose 8vm. I don't see that choice that often. Why is that?

amazing atmospheric intro, great riffs, fantastic chorus, the kind of evil way labrie sounds in the verses, a pretty great instrumental break, doesn't overstay its welcome, nice inclusion of the 8vm theme at the end, again, that amazing chorus

i never get tired of listening to the song, mostly

[OnTheBacksofAngela]

@Parama: Ah, that makes sense. TROAE is an extremely good song. Top 3, with Sacrificed Sons and 8vm. I'm guessing you would rate 8vm second and Sacrificed sons....3rd maybe?

Some DT opinions/facts that I highly disagree with or completely disagree with:
1) "Oh my gosh, Dream Theater is not progressive rock/metal. They are thrash metal."
My response: Dude...do you even know what thrash metal is? Thrash metal bands are Slayer, Anthrax, Metallica, Megadeth, among others."

2)"James Labrie sings so bad because he takes drugs and all those stuff! He smokes also, that's why he sucks!"
My response: ................... You know what? I'm not going to even respond to that, except these two words: Food Poisoning.

3)"FII is THE worst Dream Theater albums ever! Their attempt to go mainstream are just horrendous."
My response:I wouldn't say it is THE worst. I prefer this over WDADU and ADTOE.

4)"James Labrie is killing Dream Theater."
My response:My same two words: Food Poisoning. I don't care if it isn't grating like some other singers, but Labrie fits with his vocal range. His voice is full of emotion and his pitch range is just amazing.

5)"Mike Portnoy is really impatient. He always has to come in as soon as possible and he can't even wait."
My response:I don't he is that impatient because in some songs, he waits perfectly fine: 8vm, Surrounded, The Answer Lies Within, etc.

6)"Jordan Rudess is all speed and no emotion. Why is he so technical? At least Moore and Sherinian had some melodies."
My response:Have you checked out the songs Disappear, TCoT, TBoT, Wither, A Rite of Passage, heck the list could go on forever.

[Sacul]

Who the hell says 1 & 2? 

[OnTheBacksofAngela]

Oh trust me, I've heard those. XD
I had to write that down.

[KevShmev]

I've never seen someone call DT thrash metal.

Anyone who thinks DT has tried to go mainstream since Rudess joined the band is drunk, stupid or both.

I don't think A Rite of Passage is a good example of JR's melodic side.

[OnTheBacksofAngela]

Hm, yeah, you're right. Well I put that there because it wasn't his technical side or is it? I mean, he doesn't play too quickly.

[KevShmev]

Let's put it this way: it was in the context of your "Have you checked out..." post, and I guarantee I would never start someone off with DT or JR by having them listen to the song with that bebot solo.

[OnTheBacksofAngela]

Oh, I see what you mean! 
Thank you for that. *embarassed*

[TheCountOfNYC]

^^^^^^^I think the two best examples of JR playing melodically would be Beneath the Surface and Along for the Ride. If he had used the SFaM/SDoIT era lead sound for those instead of the cheesy sound that was actually used, those would be two of his best solos.