Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread

[Dimitrius]

Well, as she always says "there's power in king's blood"...

[gmillerdrake]

Oh, and I have a really bad feeling about the look Melisandre gives Selyse after saying that her father's blood runs through their daughter's veins. Then again, I've had that bad feeling since "when we set sail, your daughter must be with us" and whatever she showed her in the fire last season.

Well, as she always says "there's power in king's blood"...

Yeah...on top of the fact they throw that scene in there where he reveals his undying love for his daughter.....it would seem that it is set up for him to have to face using his daughters blood (life) to further or fulfill his 'destiny'.



Oh and....I loved how Jamie just kept making Brann do everything and comedically use only having one hand as the excuse 

[cramx3]

In regards to Shireen, she definitely seems set up to die now.

However,

She could take the place of Val's baby in the book and set sail with Gilly and Sam

[wasteland]

I am mourning Ser Barristan, one of my all time favourite characters. Thankfully he's still alive in the books, even though he won't last long there either, I fear.

Also, I sincerely hope they won't have Shireen burned. That would really be too much for this young sentimental heart to bear 

[ariich]

I thought this episode was great. And I absolutely love the scene between Stannis and Shireen.

Again, I've liked the episodes thus far. They've woven a pretty cool tapestry of parallel stories between characters and events. I'm certain with the shows history that there is going to be plenty of 'bang' in this season....but to this point it's been primarily set up for that 'bang' and for as neat and interesting as the storytelling has been.....I'm just ready for some 'bang'....

The books at this point get a bit like that too - the characters' stories all go off in different directions and so the pace slows down quite a bit (it's much worse in the books in fact - so far they've kept things very tight in the show). Despite all the changes, if they MOSTLY stick fairly close to the books, then there should be some great stuff coming up!

[Fiery Winds]

This is more a preemptive request from someone who's catching up on the books, but can we at least put book to show comparisons in spoiler text? Especially as this season is going to veer from the books more than past seasons.

[cramx3]

In terms of the books being slower than the show... everything that happened with Cersei and the Faith Militant in last night episode was about half of Feast for Crows lol  The show didnt have the characters (the Kettlebacks) to show how Cersei was manipulating everyone to get what she wanted, but I think the show did a good job of getting the High Sparrow and his armed force into place without being slow about it.  It actually almost seemed too fast, but then again I am looking upon it from reading the books, not sure how the non book readers take the whole Faith Militant storyline.

And does anyone else think there has been some foreshadowing of Stannis' death?  Brienne brought up a couple episodes ago that she still wants to revenge Renly and then last night Stannis comes off as a guy to cheer for and we know he plans to attack Winterfell where Brienne is also heading and then it would totally ruin LF's plan.  Seems like the type of twist that would totally be fitting for this show, the man who is seemingly favored to win the battle and has become a likeable character dies.

Then given the pink note of the book, maybe he died in the Battle of Winterfell in the books as well, but it seems like we are going to get that battle this season!

[Fiery Winds]

This is more a preemptive request from someone who's catching up on the books, but can we at least put book to show comparisons in spoiler text? Especially as this season is going to veer from the books more than past seasons.

Or we can not. 

[gmillerdrake]

I was thinking that the 'lore' in the GOT world is pretty fascinating. All the stories of old that are told....young little finger.....the old war.....Mad King.....Targaryn Kings.....etc etc.....I'm sure there are countless more.....I'm curios as to if HBO has given thought to producing a show based on those 'old' stories after this story has been told? A prequel so to speak? Wold that interest anyone else? I'd like to see it....

Especially if what appears to be coming to fruition and that being Jon Snow is Daenareus's Nephew. That storyline would be neat.

[ariich]

This is more a preemptive request from someone who's catching up on the books, but can we at least put book to show comparisons in spoiler text? Especially as this season is going to veer from the books more than past seasons.

That's been discussed and basically agreed already. There was nothing specific whatsoever in my post (if that's what prompted your comment).

[Prog Snob]

Then given the pink note of the book, maybe he died in the Battle of Winterfell in the books as well, but it seems like we are going to get that battle this season!

I don't know if I trust that note from Ramsay. I think it's a trap.

Especially if what appears to be coming to fruition and that being Jon Snow is Daenareus's Nephew. That storyline would be neat.

If?

[cramx3]

Then given the pink note of the book, maybe he died in the Battle of Winterfell in the books as well, but it seems like we are going to get that battle this season!

I don't know if I trust that note from Ramsay. I think it's a trap.

Especially if what appears to be coming to fruition and that being Jon Snow is Daenareus's Nephew. That storyline would be neat.

If?

The show did hint very heavily of that last episode, first time its ever been put out there so obviously

[Prog Snob]

Then given the pink note of the book, maybe he died in the Battle of Winterfell in the books as well, but it seems like we are going to get that battle this season!

I don't know if I trust that note from Ramsay. I think it's a trap.

Especially if what appears to be coming to fruition and that being Jon Snow is Daenareus's Nephew. That storyline would be neat.

If?

The show did hint very heavily of that last episode, first time its ever been put out there so obviously

I think that would make Jon the biggest contender for being Azor Ahai. Like I said earlier, he could be the "song" in A Song of Ice and Fire. Daenerys has no connection to ice. 

[cramx3]

Should also note that Cersei is sending Mace Tyrell to Braavos, escorted by Ser Meryn Trant.... well he is on Arya's list and she is in Braavos, sounds like she may be getting an opportunity to give someone the gift of death.

[Fiery Winds]

This is more a preemptive request from someone who's catching up on the books, but can we at least put book to show comparisons in spoiler text? Especially as this season is going to veer from the books more than past seasons.

That's been discussed and basically agreed already. There was nothing specific whatsoever in my post (if that's what prompted your comment).

Nothing in your post, it was the mention earlier of a book character still being alive, which isn't really that big a deal, but wanted to re-iterate the concern. Then the comment stating what a certain character would be up to for half the book. Perhaps I'm nitpicking, as sometimes I feel I'm more sensitive to spoilers than others.

[cramx3]

This is more a preemptive request from someone who's catching up on the books, but can we at least put book to show comparisons in spoiler text? Especially as this season is going to veer from the books more than past seasons.

That's been discussed and basically agreed already. There was nothing specific whatsoever in my post (if that's what prompted your comment).

Nothing in your post, it was the mention earlier of a book character still being alive, which isn't really that big a deal, but wanted to re-iterate the concern. Then the comment stating what a certain character would be up to for half the book. Perhaps I'm nitpicking, as sometimes I feel I'm more sensitive to spoilers than others.

Well there was nothing spoiler about anyhting I wrote, if we need to have comparisons about things that arent in the show also in small font thats fine, but I was only operating that spoilers be in small text which nothing I wrote about Cersei being spoilers.

[BlackInk]

Preview of next week looks really cool, but if I can stop myself, I hopefully won't watch any more of those. I've become rather "spoiler"-sensitive lately, and don't want to know what's coming at all or who's going to be in the episode or if there's going to be a fight or whatever. I have decided that I want to be told this story the best way possible, which is if I know nothing. At least with something as important to me as Game of Thrones.

[cramx3]

Preview of next week looks really cool, but if I can stop myself, I hopefully won't watch any more of those. I've become rather "spoiler"-sensitive lately, and don't want to know what's coming at all or who's going to be in the episode or if there's going to be a fight or whatever. I have decided that I want to be told this story the best way possible, which is if I know nothing. At least with something as important to me as Game of Thrones.

Well I wish they didn't show Barristen on a death bed in the preview.  Kind of killed the speculation about him and seemed spoilerish to me.

[BlackInk]

Indeed. In my character graph for this show (seriously nerdy stuff) I hadn't marked his box in this episode yet because I wasn't sure if he lived or not. Now I do, and he's got a red box.

[hefdaddy42]

Maybe he was just taking a nap.

[BlackInk]

Well, there we go.

[cramx3]

Maybe he was just taking a nap.

Well he would be pretty tired after just whooping ass like he did.

[orcus116]

Preview of next week looks really cool, but if I can stop myself, I hopefully won't watch any more of those. I've become rather "spoiler"-sensitive lately, and don't want to know what's coming at all or who's going to be in the episode or if there's going to be a fight or whatever. I have decided that I want to be told this story the best way possible, which is if I know nothing. At least with something as important to me as Game of Thrones.

Well I wish they didn't show Barristen on a death bed in the preview.  Kind of killed the speculation about him and seemed spoilerish to me.

Because getting stabbed a dozen times in the last episode didn't give it away? 

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Yea I avoid next week previews like the plague, the same on TWD. Those were so quick sometimes, I had to violently turn off.

[ariich]

I don't think we even get "next time" spoilers in the UK. When the episode finishes it just goes straight into the credits.

[hefdaddy42]

I don't think we even get "next time" spoilers in the UK. When the episode finishes it just goes straight into the credits.

I think they are after the credits.

[cramx3]

I don't think we even get "next time" spoilers in the UK. When the episode finishes it just goes straight into the credits.

I think they are after the credits.

Yup, at least here in the states they come after the credits.

I never had a problem in the past with watching scenes from next week, I always thought shows did a good job showing clips without spoiling things. Like sure we get an idea of whats to come without knowing whats coming.  This weeks preview really was the first time I felt like it actually spoiled something, but maybe its all a trick? I doubt it, it seems certain Barristan is dead.

Preview of next week looks really cool, but if I can stop myself, I hopefully won't watch any more of those. I've become rather "spoiler"-sensitive lately, and don't want to know what's coming at all or who's going to be in the episode or if there's going to be a fight or whatever. I have decided that I want to be told this story the best way possible, which is if I know nothing. At least with something as important to me as Game of Thrones.

Well I wish they didn't show Barristen on a death bed in the preview.  Kind of killed the speculation about him and seemed spoilerish to me.

Because getting stabbed a dozen times in the last episode didn't give it away? 

The only reason that excuse doesn't work is because of this specific show and from previous discussions in this thread, it seems if your head isn't cut off or if you aren't buried then you may not be dead.

[BlackInk]

Because getting stabbed a dozen times in the last episode didn't give it away? 

I wasn't sure if he died mainly because they specifically had Grey Worm "save" Barristan before getting his throat cut.

[gmillerdrake]

I wasn't sure if he died mainly because they specifically had Grey Worm "save" Barristan before getting his throat cut.

Yeah, that threw me off too.....made me think they'd both survive but be out of commission for a while.....

[Progmetty]

One thing I liked a lot about this episode were the mentions of Rheagar and how he was portrayed.  I think they may be slowly adding in elements of the popular fan theory of Jon Snow's parents.

I said the same thing to my wife after the episode ended, I only recently discovered that it was a popular fan theory cause I've been thinking it for a while, so the logic here- if the theory stands- is the following:
Ned Stark and Viserys Targaryen lied about Rhaegar Targaryen at different points in the show for different reasons:-
- Viserys felt like delivering the image to Daenerys that Rhaegar was as brutal as his father the mad king and so he himself is -and should be- the same way.
- Ned lied about Rhaegar so that Robert Baratheon wouldn't know Lyanna Stark fell in love with Rhaegar and willingly ran away with him, which would also explain Ned taking their love child Jon Snow and not letting anyone know the truth about him.
So in this last episode alone we got hints that keep pointing in that direction, Stannis telling his wife "that wasn't Ned's way", talking about sleeping with prostitutes. Then Barristen telling Daenerys that Rhaegar was a good fella who sang in the streets and not brutal murderer. Sansa reminding us of what Ned told the family about Rhaegar.
But my theory after finding out that it's a popular theory is that Martin and the show runners will not go with it at all, even if it was their initial plan, they won't follow through with it if they think a lot of fans are expecting it. I'm almost certain that theory won't be true just because of that.
I wish Lady Melisandre would try to convert me, I would be devoted to her soft cause 

[cramx3]

A lot of fans seem to think the show may spoil Jon's parentage this season and last episode was the set up.  I'm not so sure about that just yet, but if they are serious with ending in 7 seasons, then the end game needs to start becoming clearer soon.  The problem with saying that the theory on Jon is incorrect is that the amount of hints in the book are significant.  It would be hard to have something different and yet all the clues are still consistent.  Not impossible, but it just seems like the story is too deep to have a different outcome in terms of Jon's parents.  The show is a bit different as the clues were not really presented, but this weeks episode is the closest to showing proof of it.

I think the one moment from the epsidoe Progmetty missed in his points was LF and Sansa's conversation in the crypts about Lyanna and when Sansa says Rheagar kidnapped Lyanna, LF's reaction said more than words can say.  Besides being a knowledgeable dude, he was also there so he has a good idea on what really went down.

[Prog Snob]

I think the one moment from the epsidoe Progmetty missed in his points was LF and Sansa's conversation in the crypts about Lyanna and when Sansa says Rheagar kidnapped Lyanna, LF's reaction said more than words can say.  Besides being a knowledgeable dude, he was also there so he has a good idea on what really went down.

You could almost see that he wanted to tell her she was wrong about that, but he kept it inside.

[gmillerdrake]

I think the one moment from the epsidoe Progmetty missed in his points was LF and Sansa's conversation in the crypts about Lyanna and when Sansa says Rheagar kidnapped Lyanna, LF's reaction said more than words can say.  Besides being a knowledgeable dude, he was also there so he has a good idea on what really went down.

You could almost see that he wanted to tell her she was wrong about that, but he kept it inside.

I think that is one of the greatest strengths of the show....if not the greatest. The manner in which that actors/actresses can still convey an idea/thought/story/emotion without speaking that ALSO adds to the storyline and moves it along. That along with brilliant editing is such a strength of the show....being that there are so many characters and story  arcs, they have to be able to progress these stories in two/three minute clips and the great acting is such a strength and makes it possible.

[Progmetty]

^ 100% agreed.
Oh yeah that also opens another can of worms that I'm very curious about, what is the grand plan of Petyr Baelish? He always behaves as if there's one, I don't understand what he wants, I also don't understand how much he knows about things happening outside of his immediate storyline, does he know Cersei plotted to have his establishments attacked? Did Cersei find out he had a hand in Joffrey's death? Why else would she target him?

[gmillerdrake]

Just saw this....looks pretty neat!






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