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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now?
Hey, guys. I was curious if there's a studio version of "A Change of Seasons" featuring Kevin Moore? I ask because Dream Theater recently posted that I&W 25th anniversary interview with Petrucci in which he said the band had planned to include ACOS on I&W, but the record label overruled them. So, does that mean a studio version was recorded with Moore but never saw the light of day?
Quote from: darkshade on September 13, 2010, 11:05:32 PMbtw i always wondered why they didnt do the entire song for Once in A Livetime, or the YtseJam release Old Bridge, NJ 12/14/1996 show. i know theyre both from the same time period, but the EP had recently come out back then, why wouldnt they play the whole thing?They did play it. And you can hear it live with Derek on this release - https://ytsejamrecords.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=15
btw i always wondered why they didnt do the entire song for Once in A Livetime, or the YtseJam release Old Bridge, NJ 12/14/1996 show. i know theyre both from the same time period, but the EP had recently come out back then, why wouldnt they play the whole thing?
Quote from: The Letter M on September 13, 2010, 11:27:47 PMQuote from: darkshade on September 13, 2010, 11:05:32 PMbtw i always wondered why they didnt do the entire song for Once in A Livetime, or the YtseJam release Old Bridge, NJ 12/14/1996 show. i know theyre both from the same time period, but the EP had recently come out back then, why wouldnt they play the whole thing?They did play it. And you can hear it live with Derek on this release - https://ytsejamrecords.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=15Quoting a 7-year-old post here, but I wanted to ask a quick question - what is the song 'Lost Without You' on the 2nd CD of that bootleg? Is it a cover, or some unreleased track? If a cover, of which band?
i wanted to start a new thread that isn't Portnoy related
Jordan took Moore's boring, pedestrian parts and elevated them considerably to take them from barely palatable to stellar.
Maybe MP's mom used to watch the Simpsons together with MP?
Quote from: Evai on November 26, 2017, 12:34:34 PMMaybe MP's mom used to watch the Simpsons together with MP?I think his mom died in the mid 80s before the Simpsons was ever on.
Let's also realize that if it were a "problem" or "insensitive" or "whatever" then I'm sure MP would not have wanted these alterations in the live version so as far as I'm concerned it's all good.
The studio version is the best version for me but the Live Scenes performances is the best live version I've heard so far. I really dislike Ruddess's stupid silly piano part and the Simpsons theme is kind of inappropriate for a serious song like A Change of Seasons.
Quote from: darkshade on September 13, 2010, 10:52:38 PMi wanted to start a new thread that isn't Portnoy related MP wrote ACOS for his mother.https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/mike-portnoy-has-no-desire-or-interest-to-play-with-dream-theater-again/
Quote from: Herrick on November 26, 2017, 09:30:18 AMThe studio version is the best version for me but the Live Scenes performances is the best live version I've heard so far. I really dislike Ruddess's stupid silly piano part and the Simpsons theme is kind of inappropriate for a serious song like A Change of Seasons.Yup it kinda ruins the emotional content of the song and just turns into another Prog exhibitionism "Hey look we are so good we can suddenly inject different feel here".I hope they stop doing that with epics.
If there were a third vote option here with the live Kevin Moore version I'd vote for that. The unisons at 15:30 are pure chocolate cake.
Quote from: Herrick on November 26, 2017, 09:30:18 AMThe studio version is the best version for me but the Live Scenes performances is the best live version I've heard so far. I really dislike Ruddess's stupid silly piano part and the Simpsons theme is kind of inappropriate for a serious song like A Change of Seasons.Yup it kinda ruins the emotional content of the song and just turns into another Prog exhibitionism "Hey look we are so good we can suddenly inject different feel here".
As a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: PetFish on November 22, 2017, 02:52:39 PMIf there were a third vote option here with the live Kevin Moore version I'd vote for that. The unisons at 15:30 are pure chocolate cake.Agreed, altho I'd say the whole instrumental section from 13:38 to 16:35 is just killer. Quote from: Drinktheater on November 27, 2017, 03:31:08 AMQuote from: Herrick on November 26, 2017, 09:30:18 AMThe studio version is the best version for me but the Live Scenes performances is the best live version I've heard so far. I really dislike Ruddess's stupid silly piano part and the Simpsons theme is kind of inappropriate for a serious song like A Change of Seasons.Yup it kinda ruins the emotional content of the song and just turns into another Prog exhibitionism "Hey look we are so good we can suddenly inject different feel here".There are many people that would say the whole song is another example Prog exhibitionism. I think there's nothing wrong with having a little fun with those brief solo sections, because that's what it is - having fun, and you do want the guys to have fun while they're performing, don't you? It's not as if they've redone the whole song in some sort of wacky way.
Vinylhttps://www.bullmoose.com/p/26760788/dream-theater-a-change-of-seasons-blue-white-mixed-vinyl-2-lp-180-gram-blue-white-vinyl-ltd-to-2500?utm_source=twv&utm_campaign=notmetal
Quote from: SoundscapeMN on January 19, 2018, 11:07:19 AMVinylhttps://www.bullmoose.com/p/26760788/dream-theater-a-change-of-seasons-blue-white-mixed-vinyl-2-lp-180-gram-blue-white-vinyl-ltd-to-2500?utm_source=twv&utm_campaign=notmetalLet me know when they release it on 8-track.
Happy 27th Birthday to the A Change Of Seasons EP!I'm still holding out hope for a LFNA release of the full Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club show!-Marc.