The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[BlobVanDam]

Every single long song on the last two albums is dragged down by excessive bloat dragging it down. Simple as that for me. DM has a lot of great material on it, but all of those songs could have been trimmed by a couple of minutes each and been the better for it.
Heck, The Judas Kiss could even have maybe been a top 10 Metallica song for me if it was 5 minutes instead of 8. Kirk and Lars aren't good enough to be playing instrumental sections like that, the songs just fall apart. It's hard to listen to.

[NotePad]

Nice to hear the double bass. But the haters will still complain. Hardwired sounds great, for some reason I really wasn't expecting a short song like that. I've pretty much expecting a Death Magnetic/AJFA style songwriting. And that wouldn't be a problem either. Big fan of DM, but I'm glad it won't just be DM2.

[mikeyd23]

It's one thing to look purely at track times and try to draw a correlation between good and bad songs (which is silly, but to be fair, it lines up very well with DTF's opinions on DT songs), but Metallica's last two albums are a pretty good reason to be worried about longer song lengths. It doesn't mean that will be the case, but it's not an unfounded worry.

Yeah this. Don't get me wrong, I won't pre-judge a song based merely on length, that would be ridiculous. For me, DM could have used a trimming in many sections of songs, so based on that, longer songs on this record might suffer from that same over-long arrangement approach for me. That's all.

[cramx3]

Well they already got an official live video of the new single from this weekend:

https://youtu.be/HZan1NsiAYs

Say what you want about the music or Metallica as a business, but I got to say this was great promotion for them.  Release the new single during the week, headline a big US gig and make the live debut of the single that weekend, and then have it already released in a well done professional video shortly after.   

[BlobVanDam]

I just realized, the vocal melody for Hardwired in that video is literally just two notes for the entire song. The studio version adds a third note sung only once.
I think that is probably objectively their most basic and simplistic melody ever, even compared to their other early thrash era stuff.

[Anguyen92]

Well they already got an official live video of the new single from this weekend:

https://youtu.be/HZan1NsiAYs

Say what you want about the music or Metallica as a business, but I got to say this was great promotion for them.  Release the new single during the week, headline a big US gig and make the live debut of the single that weekend, and then have it already released in a well done professional video shortly after.   

Well, I'll say this.  It sounds better in a live setting than the studio version.  Another note from that video, at least, Lars is wearing a cap to cover whatever is left of his hair.

[kaos2900]

Well they already got an official live video of the new single from this weekend:

https://youtu.be/HZan1NsiAYs

Say what you want about the music or Metallica as a business, but I got to say this was great promotion for them.  Release the new single during the week, headline a big US gig and make the live debut of the single that weekend, and then have it already released in a well done professional video shortly after.   

Well, I'll say this.  It sounds better in a live setting than the studio version.  Another note from that video, at least, Lars is wearing a cap to cover whatever is left of his hair.

I have to agree with this.

[Stadler]

Another note from that video, at least, Lars is wearing a cap to cover whatever is left of his hair.

I'm not sure this is necessary.  He's far from the "rock star aging least gracefully".  I'd rather that that any of the plethora of bad wigs on the dudes that still think they're playing The Whiskey circa 1987, or the "bandana that miraculously reaches from eyebrow to middle of scalp that many have adopted and looks absolutely fucking re-goddamn-diculous (Bret Michaels, Danny Koker). 

[Adami]

Well, I'll say this.  It sounds better in a liveLars is wearing a cap to cover whatever is left of his hair.

So? People sometimes go bald. He's been balding for a very long time and has joked about it. He's not trying to hide anything.

[cramx3]

I don't know why some care if he is bald and/or hiding it or not. 

[Kotowboy]

Bald people look less ridiculous than people with obvious wigs / hair transplants.


Even Hetfield stopped dyeing his hair a few years ago.

[KevShmev]

Well they already got an official live video of the new single from this weekend:

https://youtu.be/HZan1NsiAYs

Say what you want about the music or Metallica as a business, but I got to say this was great promotion for them.  Release the new single during the week, headline a big US gig and make the live debut of the single that weekend, and then have it already released in a well done professional video shortly after.   

Yep, Metallica, if nothing else, knows how to promote themselves.

That song still sucks something awful, though.

[Progmetty]

The live video is great, I'm loving Hardwired right now, the verse are just fun to sing along to maniacally

[Kotowboy]

The live video is great, I'm loving Hardwired right now, the verse are just fun to sing along to maniacally

It's fun to play super loud in the headphones.

[TAC]

WOW, that is an amazing stage!

[Kotowboy]

They first used those massive screens last year but I can't remember what the occasion was.

They didn't use any pyro or anything for a long time. I wonder if the 3D movie is paid off yet.

[devieira73]

Maybe a glimpse of the third CD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8xipvEWQjc

[Adami]

So, I'm watching a youtube of Hetfield performing such acoustic show by himself, and man it's awesome.

Would any one else dig an acoustic solo hetfield album? Maybe not 100% acoustic, but definitely mostly.

[Kotowboy]

Yes. Maybe there are some acoustic songs on Hardwired...

[Adami]

Yes. Maybe there are some acoustic songs on Hardwired...

 

Oh thanks, I needed that.


But really, songs like Nothing Else Matters and Mama Said only exist cause James was just writing acoustic songs and Lars convinced him to put them on a Metallica album. I bet he has a few more in his pocket.

[Kotowboy]

I can't fucking wait til there is an acoustic guitar on the new album.





* I didn't mean acoustic only songs. I meant songs which feature SOME acoustic. . .

[Adami]

I can't fucking wait til there is an acoustic guitar on the new album.

I honestly doubt there will be an acoustic guitar, but there might be. There won't , however, be any acoustic songs. Mama Said is only half acoustic, Metallica has no acoustic songs.

[Kotowboy]

Not what I meant.

[Adami]

You said "acoustic songs on hardwired"

What else could you have meant if not....acoustic songs? Did you just mean an acoustic track underneath a rock song?

[Kotowboy]

Songs which feature acoustic guitar.

Metallica have never ever done an acoustic ONLY song.

[Adami]

Songs which feature acoustic guitar.

Metallica have never ever done an acoustic ONLY song.

Or even a mostly acoustic song would be good. Like I said, Mama Said is the closest they've come. I mean, Unforgiven III had a piano intro, you wouldn't call that a piano song.

I'm just saying, I bet James has written some great songs just him and an acoustic guitar. I'd love an album of that. Whether or not a song or more on Hardwired has an acoustic track or features an acoustic part is not at all what I'm talking about.

[Kotowboy]

I am.

[KevShmev]

I'm just saying, I bet James has written some great songs just him and an acoustic guitar. I'd love an album of that. Whether or not a song or more on Hardwired has an acoustic track or features an acoustic part is not at all what I'm talking about.

Yep, it's clear what you meant. I think that is obvious to most.

[Kotowboy]

Adami meant acoustic only songs and I meant songs with acoustic on like Mama Said.

[Adami]

Adami meant acoustic only songs and I meant songs with acoustic on like Mama Said.

That's cool, but I wasn't talking about a Metallica album, I was talking about a James solo album. I don't care whether or not a new Metallica album has an acoustic song.

I just meant it would be cool to see an entire album of James and an acoustic guitar. If you felt like detouring the subject, cool, I just had no idea you were.

[Kotowboy]

Talking about Metallica in a Metallica thread.

I DUN DERAILED DA THRED

[fadetoblackdude7]

I'd welcome some acoustics on the new album.

[Adami]

Talking about Metallica in a Metallica thread.

I DUN DERAILED DA THRED

Didn't say you did. You just undermined my original question, now people are just going to talk about acoustic songs on a Metallica record. There is no James Hetfield thread, so it had go here.

But it's all good. I doubt the conversation would have lasted more than 2-3 posts anyway before becoming about acoustic songs on a Metallica album anyway.

[Kotowboy]

I'd welcome some acoustics on the new album.

As would I.

[Kotowboy]

Didn't say you did. You just undermined my original question, now people are just going to talk about acoustic songs on a Metallica record. There is no James Hetfield thread, so it had go here.

But it's all good. I doubt the conversation would have lasted more than 2-3 posts anyway before becoming about acoustic songs on a Metallica album anyway.

Attaboy.