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General => Musicians => Topic started by: millahh on February 16, 2013, 07:15:17 PM
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I've played bass for ~20 years, but only recently have been bitten by the effects bug. For a couple of years, I was using a Line6 PodXT live, but then decided it was time for "real" effects...so in the last 8 months, I've accumulated this:
(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/m_b_miller/fullboard_zps73252748.jpg)
Worst thing is, I'm not even done! It's become something of a mad obsession, my white whale, if you will, to find "my sound". Maybe the most maddening thing is unexpected interactions between pedals...I was planning on ditching the SansAmp, as it was gutting my mids, therefore neutering my chorus, flanger and filter. But it turns out the rich, chocolaty, satisfying fuzz I was getting from the MXR bass fuzz deluxe disappeared without the SansAmp, and instead was harsh and nasaly. That said, I think i'm finally getting there:
-The programmable SansAmp is going to get replaced with the single-channel version. Just need a touch of drive at the end of the chain to sweeten everything up; I'll control by distortion from dedicated pedals further upstream.
-The BassBalls Nano (envelop filter) might go away...I feel like it's something I feel like I should have at my disposal, but it's not really "me".
-I'm eyeing up one of the mini wah pedals from Plutoneium; fit on the board, and sound amazing: https://www.plutoneium.com/aboutchiwahwah.aspx
-I might put an EHX MicroPog up front as well, more for the octave up than down...it'll get me an approximation of an eight string.
I've got a number of things that are already off my board that are about to go up for sale...a Way Huge Pork Loin, a Fuzzrocious Rat Tail (great RAT clone, but just wasn't how I remembered my old RAT being), a Boss compressor and a Boss EQ...not to mention my smaller pedal board!
So is anyone else fighting the effects bug and loosing as badly as I am?
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Check out pedalsandeffects.com (https://pedalsandeffects.com). It's a website devoted to effects pedals for bass, by my favorite player right now, Juan Alderete.
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I'd actually used that as one of my resources in deciding what direction I wanted to go.
I've got threee pedals on the way...the MicroPog, a single channel SansAmp, and an AMT bass wah that's the size of my MXR pedals...and the envelope filter is goign away. In about a week, this things is going to be a beast.
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I would love to hear how it sounds if you have a way of recording it.
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To be perfectly honest, I didn't know it was at all normal for a bass player to use that many effects, if their name isn't Billy Sheehan. Not meant in a bad way, I think I always figured most bass players' signal path was a lot more straightforward. Hmph. Cool.
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I've now got everything, and with the wife about to be gone for a few days, I've have plenty of time to get it all nice and neat. And indeed, it is beastly. I'll see what I can figure out to do some soundclips.
As far as effects used in straight-ahead rock, there tends not to be too much, outside of compression, overdrive and chorus. However, you don't have to stray too far out of mainstream to start hearing more effects (Muse, Porcupine Tree). And when you start getting towards indie, post-rock and other stuff that's either atraditional or where the bassist has to fill up a lot of space, you start seeing a lot more.
Coolest thing I've found so far is the with the MicroPOG set to add the up octave, a little bit of flanger (deep but very slow rate), some lows cut from one half of the split channel, and a little bit of drive from the SansAmp, I can nail the sound of thr 12-string in Pearl Jam's "Jeremy" perfectly.
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That sounds epic. Must be a ton of fun to rock out with.
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My entire pedal collections is :
The Channel select on my Blackstar HT 100.
;D
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RAAAAAWWWWK!
(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/m_b_miller/1892f1f6-54db-4d64-9ad8-b9baeeb1cb6f_zpse34bc3aa.jpg)
And here is a handy-dandy roadmap to the RAAWWK:
(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/m_b_miller/boardschematic32413_zps78d3a5fd.jpg)
The odd looking EQ setting gets me a grindy tone in combination with the Agro.
I feel at peace with this. I'm not really gassing for anything at the moment (though I would mind a synthy fuzz with the right footprint at the start of the chain). We'll see how long this lasts.
Also, Hosa flathead pedal cables are the best things ever.
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(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/562623_10151509994008360_1114549249_n.jpg)
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Awesome.
Do the make one voiced for bass? :biggrin:
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Yo millahh, how's the MXR Carbon Copy Delay? I've been looking into delay pedals recently, and I'm trying to get a good idea of all the ones that are out there.
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I hear it's very organic sounding.
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I've once heard a bass player used one of these, and I looooved the sound of that.
(https://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/19/001/192/236/DV020_Jpg_Jumbo_158839_top.jpg)
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Yo millahh, how's the MXR Carbon Copy Delay? I've been looking into delay pedals recently, and I'm trying to get a good idea of all the ones that are out there.
I dig it. I originally had a Boss DD-6, which can do more, and it's easier to set delay times precisely, but there could be an unnatural-sounding harshness to it. The MXR, as Coz said, is definitely more organic/natural sounding. I'm not sure if it's a digital vs. analog thing, or if there's something more to it. The MXR also has the modulation effect, that can introduce slight pitch variations to the repeats, which can be cool in the right situation. Overall, the MXR is way simpler, with fewer options, but this is one case where I think less is more.
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Yo millahh, how's the MXR Carbon Copy Delay? I've been looking into delay pedals recently, and I'm trying to get a good idea of all the ones that are out there.
I dig it. I originally had a Boss DD-6, which can do more, and it's easier to set delay times precisely, but there could be an unnatural-sounding harshness to it. The MXR, as Coz said, is definitely more organic/natural sounding. I'm not sure if it's a digital vs. analog thing, or if there's something more to it. The MXR also has the modulation effect, that can introduce slight pitch variations to the repeats, which can be cool in the right situation. Overall, the MXR is way simpler, with fewer options, but this is one case where I think less is more.
That sounds really promising. I've been looking at EarthQuaker Devices Disaster Transport which is a pretty cool pedal, but it's more expensive ($215). I'm a huge fan of modulation so that's a big thing I'm looking for in a delay pedal. I'll definitely have to check the MXR out.
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The MXR, as Coz said, is definitely more organic/natural sounding.
:rollin
I apologize. I know absolutely nothing about the pedal. I was making a joke on the carbon/organic connection. :lol
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The MXR, as Coz said, is definitely more organic/natural sounding.
:rollin
I apologize. I know absolutely nothing about the pedal. I was making a joke on the carbon/organic connection. :lol
Goddammit...someone makes a subtle chemistry joke, which I of all people should catch, and it goes right over my head! :rollin :facepalm:
Thing is, that is actually the way many people describe it as sounding!
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:rollin :rollin :rollin
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THREAD RESURRECTION.
I'm finally in a position that I can spend money on pedals and not have an empty bank account, and it's awesome. So far I have an Earthquaker Devices Afterneath (I :heart reverb), a TC Electronics Ditto X2 (looper w/ reverse and half-speed), and a have Boss DD-7 (digital delay) on the way. I use my friend's Electro Harmonix Big Muff (fuzz) for dirt, but my plan is to pick up an Old Blood Haunt (super gnarly fuzz) when I get my tax return.
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Nice, PP. be sure to post pics.
I would post mine but its mainly boss stuff. sold my more 'high-end' stuff. i figure 90% of the people I play to wont know the difference anyways.
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Nice, PP. be sure to post pics.
I would post mine but its mainly boss stuff. sold my more 'high-end' stuff. i figure 90% of the people I play to wont know the difference anyways.
For sure. As soon as I get the DD-7, there will be pictures.
What've you got, though? Even if it is all Boss stuff.
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I love effect pedals, but most of them are so damn expensive :lol
I'll post a picture of my board later, since it's in my band's practice room and not at home.
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my array of effects is quite paltry, otherwise I would post it :lol
I have a carbon copy and you actually did hit the nail on the head with your pun. very natural sounding.
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I love effect pedals, but most of them are so damn expensive :lol
I probably shouldn't be spending so much on them (I'm actually a drummer), but they're so much fun. Plus, the resale on them isn't too bad, so getting a good amount for them isn't too hard.
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Pedalboard for bass.
*snip*
The DS-1 is mainly there to fill up empty space thought I do use it ocasionally with slap stuff. The beauty at the bottom is a Russian Big Muff modded to take a 9V power supply
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Always loved the Russian BM for bass. Its so much better than the NYC.
Once i get it sorted I'll post my board but its a bit shit. Mainly use it for bass now and really only 3-4 pedals at a time.
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Pedalboard for bass.
(https://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/Metropolaris/IMG_0140_zpsc022a730.jpg) (https://s1217.photobucket.com/user/Metropolaris/media/IMG_0140_zpsc022a730.jpg.html)
The DS-1 is mainly there to fill up empty space thought I do use it ocasionally with slap stuff. The beauty at the bottom is a Russian Big Muff modded to take a 9V power supply
What year is the Muff?
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It says 2006 on the inside
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So it's a modern one. I've only ever used a couple of the NYC ones, and I love them. I really want to get my hands on an early Sovtek, but $400+ for one pedal is too much.
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GOT THE DD-7 IN THE MAIL TODAY! Super stoked on this thing. I've only used for ten or fifteen minutes so I don't have a full grasp on it yet, but so far I absolutely love it.
Here's a pic of the (quickly growing) pedal family as of tonight:
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/658703fe77d1a05ba2149b7d7f162024/tumblr_ngpjhhzknu1r1wxh1o1_1280.jpg)
This set up is great for super ambient stuff. I can't wait to use them all tomorrow when I have more time to mess around.
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My fuzz finally arrived, and oh my word is it off the charts. Old Blood Noise Endeavors are, by far, my favorite pedal company around at the moment, and they hit this one out of the park.
I present to you, the Old Blood Haunt Fuzz:
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5388f386e4b070354a174a87/5388f4ffe4b08dd1ebe19b30/5465367de4b0f488cceaeb9c/1424361057978/OBNE-Haunt-02.jpg?format=500w)
And the updated 'board':
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/65e48d45ab52701dfeff00724fa61f7b/tumblr_nkmh953lTo1r1wxh1o1_540.jpg)
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Ooh that looks cool. What's it sound like? If you could describe. I find Fuzz's to be generally hit and miss for my style of playing
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I could try to describe, but there's a couple videos they made for it, so I'll just link those instead. The first one is just a cool thing they did when they announced it. If you just want to hear what it sounds like by itself, the technical demo is the one to watch first.
Announcement video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9f3lnRimmw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9f3lnRimmw)
Technical demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IX1a_4Exzg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IX1a_4Exzg)
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got a new reverb on the way:
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5388f386e4b070354a174a87/5388f4ffe4b08dd1ebe19b30/54cbbeb4e4b0e49eee13b153/1422638773728/00054-Procession-White-1000x1500.png?format=500w)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaDx8ME4uI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaDx8ME4uI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-tgUAaEN0U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-tgUAaEN0U)
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I am so not a FX guy and my *entire* pedalboard is my three channel selector footswitch for my Blackstar Head.
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got a new reverb on the way:
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5388f386e4b070354a174a87/5388f4ffe4b08dd1ebe19b30/54cbbeb4e4b0e49eee13b153/1422638773728/00054-Procession-White-1000x1500.png?format=500w)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaDx8ME4uI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaDx8ME4uI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-tgUAaEN0U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-tgUAaEN0U)
That looks freaking awesome. How muchie?
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199. totally worth it tho. the dudes at old blood (there's only three of them by the way) are the making the best pedals around, and i need to have them all.
i got it last night, and played for like two hours, and i woke up, and immediately played for an hour. i love it so much. the tremolo setting is amazing, and the hold switch is wild.
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Man. I really want one.
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Wow.......this thread inspired me to go and check out what the story is with the old effect pedals I was using in the 80's and early 90's - they sell for more now used than they did back then brand new.
I was obsessed with my pedals until I got the old Korg A3 which was a pretty mean rack unit at the time. Unfortunately even if I started playing now the inbuilt battery would be dead , along with all my custom effects.
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Oooh what do you have lying around?
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Oooh what do you have lying around?
I'm reading just now that after I made the Korg A3 famous , The Edge made it even famous-er ;D
(https://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/korg-a3-350621.jpg)
I have that and various other things (foot controller, Dunlop Cry Baby Wah etc...) in a rack/case and maybe half a dozen or more Boss pedals from back then.............Digital metalizer , Turbo Distortion, T-Wah , Phaser, Hi BAnd Flanger, Digital Delay etc..
I had an Eventide harmonizer at one point but pretty sure I sold it.
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Wow! Some pretty well sort after boss stuff in there!
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just sold my boss dd-7. i'm kinda sad to see it go, but i never really used it all that much, so it was the right thing to do.
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I'd all but forgotten I'd started this!
Anyway, my board has undergone some rather substantial changes:
(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/m_b_miller/20151003_104056_zpsndid5dww.jpg)
Fewer pedal, but more expensive ones! The Darkglass B7K preamp is the sound I've been chasing for about 20 years or so. Incredible clarity, upper mid grit, good punch. It plays perfectly with my L-2000, and sits quite nicely with my Ric 4001 copy as well.
Overall, the board is very angry, with all that drive. The fuzz at the front of the chain (the Team Awesome Fuzz Machine) may get swapped for the Darkglass Fuzz, but aside from that, I think it's settling into a fairly stable configuration.
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I need that reverb.
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I need that reverb.
It's awesome...cheap, small, sounds good, and can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be (via toneprint). It's nice to just add that little something, just to make my tone a little more three dimensional.
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nice board! sadly I just don't have the money to put into a really nice pedal set up...
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I need that reverb.
It's awesome...cheap, small, sounds good, and can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be (via toneprint). It's nice to just add that little something, just to make my tone a little more three dimensional.
I was actally talking about the one PiffyPat posted, but the Hall of Fame is also really grat. How does the Nano version compare to his larger brother? I tested that one once and was very impressed by the sounds that came out.
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I need that reverb.
It's awesome...cheap, small, sounds good, and can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be (via toneprint). It's nice to just add that little something, just to make my tone a little more three dimensional.
I was actally talking about the one PiffyPat posted, but the Hall of Fame is also really grat. How does the Nano version compare to his larger brother? I tested that one once and was very impressed by the sounds that came out.
It's just smaller, which means that you have to make your adjustments (aside from effect level) via TonePrint or the editing software, rather than on the face of the pedal. In many cases, that would bother me, but since my reverb use is pretty straightforward, it's no issue here.
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I need that reverb.
It's awesome...cheap, small, sounds good, and can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be (via toneprint). It's nice to just add that little something, just to make my tone a little more three dimensional.
I was actally talking about the one PiffyPat posted, but the Hall of Fame is also really grat. How does the Nano version compare to his larger brother? I tested that one once and was very impressed by the sounds that came out.
the procession is great because it can be just a simple digital reverb or a wild choppy tremolo verb, or a cool filter. it's super fun to use. the hold switch is amazing.
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Major rework/downsizing (though it's no cheaper...just more expensive pedals):
(https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/m_b_miller/3fb61e08-a560-4cec-a176-f9663370f850_zpsgcbgxul9.jpg) (https://s17.photobucket.com/user/m_b_miller/media/3fb61e08-a560-4cec-a176-f9663370f850_zpsgcbgxul9.jpg.html)
Empress Multidrive (distortion/fuzz/overdrive) -> Darkglass Vintage Microtubes (overdrive) -> AMT wah -> Empress compressor -> Empress Nebulus (chorus/vibrato/flanger) -> tuner -> Reverb -> Darkglass B7K preamp
That Empress comp...oh my. Makes my tone beefier and adds sustain, but without choking off the natural dynamics.
Now, about that empty space at the top...
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sick.
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u guys. i did it again. i bought another reverb. (i'm at three now)
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/a_exif,c_limit,f_auto,fl_progressive,h_620,q_75,w_620/v1448906193/hehyjjvnym6e0zspzqnw.jpg)
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is this as crazy as the other obn reverb you got? super keen on getting a good reverb and intrigued by these guys' pedals.
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definitely just as crazy if not more. i like it a bit more actually. it's a long form reverb, so you can get it loooong, and the delay mode can self oscillate, so it can get super wild.
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Got this baby in the mail today: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SDD3000
Loving it!
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^Wow that looks good, if a little complicated. may have to research that one...