The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[KevShmev]

Breadfan (cover)
Master of Puppets
Of Wolf and Man
The Thing That Should Not Be
Fuel
The Memory Remains
Bleeding Me
Nothing Else Matters
Until it Sleeps
King Nothing
Wherever I May Roam
One
Fight Fire with Fire

Low Man's Lyric/Four Horseman (acoustic)
Motorbreath (acoustic)
Sad But True
Enter Sandman

Creeping Death

Getting Of Wolf and Man, Bleeding Me, Creeping Death and The Thing That Should Not Be was pretty awesome, even if that concert did make my ears bleed.

That's a pretty killer set Kev, good stuff.

 

[OpenYourEyes311]

FUCK ME!  I just listened to Coz's link and let it play, and the next song is even MORE KILLER HET!

Waylon Jennings' Outlaw Country CLASSIC as done by James (interpolating a little "Dukes of Hazard").  That gave me chills.   This is some evidence that Metallica is holding him back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbaXAV56e7c

(Another good comment:  "wow. what a great fuckin job. rocked them country titties right outta their tops.")

And the NEXT song is proof that he can sing:  Deep Purple's "When A Blind Man Cries":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APIY8x5gy7w

Fun Fact : James played every instrument on " This Outlaw Bit ".

Where can I get that? (I can Google it, but you seem to know about it...)

https://www.amazon.com/Ive-Always-Been-Crazy-Jennings/dp/B0000AQRZY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472213543&sr=8-1&keywords=waylon+jennings+tribute

[Randaran]

I've given Death Magnetic another listen, and now I'm actually somewhat excited for the new record. I really only had three issues with DM. The production was awful, Kirk's solos blew, and there were some questionable songwriting choices. The first has already been fixed, and the shorter average song length will help mitigate the third. Though some songs were so overloaded with riffs that they lost cohesion, the riffs themselves were great. Kirk has a history of nearly ruining great songs with bad solos as far back as Master of Puppets, so I don't have any hope for his output on Hardwired. As long as the rest of the band, especially James, makes up for this weakness, this new album could be surprisingly solid.

[Kotowboy]

I've given Death Magnetic another listen, and now I'm actually somewhat excited for the new record. I really only had three issues with DM. The production was awful, Kirk's solos blew, and there were some questionable songwriting choices. The first has already been fixed, and the shorter average song length will help mitigate the third. Though some songs were so overloaded with riffs that they lost cohesion, the riffs themselves were great. Kirk has a history of nearly ruining great songs with bad solos as far back as Master of Puppets, so I don't have any hope for his output on Hardwired. As long as the rest of the band, especially James, makes up for this weakness, this new album could be surprisingly solid.

Have a listen to the previews of Death Magnetic remastered on iTunes. It's a lot better. Make sure it says " Mastered for iTunes " in a blue box in the corner ...

[Randaran]

I'll give that a shot. 

Edit: Damn, it sounds significantly better. 

[Kotowboy]

I'll give that a shot. 

Edit: Damn, it sounds significantly better. 

Do you want me to PM you the dropbox link for the whole album ?  I bought the remastered version

[Randaran]

I'll buy it myself. I don't want to get in trouble on uni wifi.

[Kotowboy]

 

u wot m8

[krands85]

I've given Death Magnetic another listen, and now I'm actually somewhat excited for the new record. I really only had three issues with DM. The production was awful, Kirk's solos blew, and there were some questionable songwriting choices. The first has already been fixed, and the shorter average song length will help mitigate the third. Though some songs were so overloaded with riffs that they lost cohesion, the riffs themselves were great. Kirk has a history of nearly ruining great songs with bad solos as far back as Master of Puppets, so I don't have any hope for his output on Hardwired. As long as the rest of the band, especially James, makes up for this weakness, this new album could be surprisingly solid.

Have a listen to the previews of Death Magnetic remastered on iTunes. It's a lot better. Make sure it says " Mastered for iTunes " in a blue box in the corner ...

Is that much different to the guitar hero versions?

[Kotowboy]

I've given Death Magnetic another listen, and now I'm actually somewhat excited for the new record. I really only had three issues with DM. The production was awful, Kirk's solos blew, and there were some questionable songwriting choices. The first has already been fixed, and the shorter average song length will help mitigate the third. Though some songs were so overloaded with riffs that they lost cohesion, the riffs themselves were great. Kirk has a history of nearly ruining great songs with bad solos as far back as Master of Puppets, so I don't have any hope for his output on Hardwired. As long as the rest of the band, especially James, makes up for this weakness, this new album could be surprisingly solid.

Have a listen to the previews of Death Magnetic remastered on iTunes. It's a lot better. Make sure it says " Mastered for iTunes " in a blue box in the corner ...

Is that much different to the guitar hero versions?

Yes. A lot more oomph to it.

[krands85]

 

[Genowyn]

Only just heard about the new album today.

This album cover is like Dance of Death level.

[Progmetty]

Just imagine how many Hetfield songs we'll never hear because they weren't "metallica" songs.
And of course that stupid " no side projects " rule.
Although Rob still plays with other bands so who knows.

Not many according to a So What!, the official fan club magazine, interview I read in the past. He has riffs and patterns but never finishes writing a complete song if there's no intention of putting it to use.
I used to like his "no side projects" rule a lot, basically cause he explained in a convincing way at some point. But I was never a fan of any side projects from any other band before I was introduced to Liquid Tension Experiment and since then my mind has been opened to the idea a bit. Still, it's very rare that someone in a band I like, especially if it's the principal writer of the band, makes a side project that is strong and also doesn't hurt their main band creatively, but that's just me.
About Trujillo, his playing with Rodrigo y Gabriela or anybody else doesn't contradict Hetfield's "no side projects" rule as long as he doesn't count as a member of another band or writes for them. Hetfield himself made several guest spots, like on Corrosion of Conformity or Danzig records and live performances. Newsted himself was made a guest spot on Sepultura's Against album, I remember that's how I got in introduced to Sepultura back in the late 90's.
 

FUCK ME!  I just listened to Coz's link and let it play, and the next song is even MORE KILLER HET!

Waylon Jennings' Outlaw Country CLASSIC as done by James (interpolating a little "Dukes of Hazard").  That gave me chills.   This is some evidence that Metallica is holding him back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbaXAV56e7c

(Another good comment:  "wow. what a great fuckin job. rocked them country titties right outta their tops.")

And the NEXT song is proof that he can sing:  Deep Purple's "When A Blind Man Cries":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APIY8x5gy7w

Man I had forgotten about that Waylon Jennings cover. I made an album on my iPod around 2004 and called it Garage After heh, it contains about 12 songs of covers and other non-album tracks so they wouldn't be scattered all over, when you mentioned this song I went back and listened to some of the songs in that album and it reminded me of how fun the Ramones covers were.

It's almost impossible for me to find any Metallica live footage/interviews that dates pre-00's that I haven't seen before, since I was a huge Metallica bootleg collector back in the day but I found a couple of intersting ones since this new album hype started last week and I've been browsing around.
This is a TV interview that took place near the end of recording The Black Album, it has more good information was not mentioned in the entire Year & Half documentary nor the VH1 Making of Black Album DVD IMO, mainly about how they felt about Justice. To add to what's been said in the video; in early So What! interviews they had mentioned that at one point during the Damaged Justice tour, Hetfield told Ulrich "I never wanna play this fuckin song again" about AJFA and Ulrich agreed that he was tired of the progressive elements, the tempo changes and the lengthy songs, Hammet also got on board saying that he feels like they lose the audience while playing some of the longer Justice songs live.
I would also add on my side that it made a lot of sense to me when they said that what happened on the Wherever We May Roam and Nowhere Else to Roam tours, which was the Justice Medley, to just play what they thought was the best parts of the long songs and the premiere of the short version of MoP. And I think the fact that this mentality was reversed in the 00's was totally fan influenced.

The second video I found that I had not seen before was an interview with Hammet during the MOR tour 88, the Peter North impersonator there asks Kirk about the "new song" they premiered that day and it's Harvester of Sorrow , just thought it was funny what he said about it. Also some cool concert footage there.

[MirrorMask]

I love James' singing on the Deep Purple cover!

[Kotowboy]

Lars : No Big Ballad on Hardwired To Self Destruct.


  Oh Well...

At this stage of their careers - i'd take an album of nothing BUT ballads over an album with NO ballads at all...

[fadetoblackdude7]

I'm ok with there not being a ballad, as long as there's a lot of melodies, which Rob said there are. I loved DM, but I feel the songs could've been WAY more melodic.

[mikeyd23]

Yeah I'm okay with the idea of no ballad as well.

Also, I'm curious what Lars considers a "ballad". I'd be surprised if there wasn't some song that slowed things down a bit, at least for a portion of the song. But Lars maybe doesn't consider it a ballad.

[BlobVanDam]

I'm ok with there not being a ballad, as long as there's a lot of melodies, which Rob said there are. I loved DM, but I feel the songs could've been WAY more melodic.

I agree. I don't need ballads from Metallica, I just want some good melodies. Hardwired is completely devoid of any melody, unfortunately. Hopefully the rest of the album delivers.

[Ben_Jamin]

Yup, that's all they need is a bit more melody on this album, and maybe more dynamics.

Hardwired felt like the usual Metallica song.

[Peace and Love]

I hope that by ballad, Lars meant - songs that are largely acoustic or clean electric guitar-based.

I personally would consider Fixxxer, Carpe Diem Baby, Unforgiven 2, etc. to be ballads, and I think there is still hope for that.

[Mosh]

Never liked their ballads, unless you count Fade to Black (I wouldn't). The ballads were the worst part of DM. So that's fine by me.

[Kotowboy]

Never liked their ballads, unless you count Fade to Black (I wouldn't). The ballads were the worst part of DM. So that's fine by me.

I agree about Unforgiven III - the worst song on the album AND the worst Unforgiven by some distance.

[Adami]

I hope that by ballad, Lars meant - songs that are largely acoustic or clean electric guitar-based.

I personally would consider Fixxxer, Carpe Diem Baby, Unforgiven 2, etc. to be ballads, and I think there is still hope for that.

I have no idea how you could consider Fixxxer or Carpe Diem Baby to be anything remotely similar to a ballad.

[seasonsinthesky]

C'mon people, Metallica only did ballads one way (save Re/Load). "Fade to Black," "Welcome Home (Sanitarium)," "One," "Nothing Else Matters."

[Peace and Love]

I hope that by ballad, Lars meant - songs that are largely acoustic or clean electric guitar-based.

I personally would consider Fixxxer, Carpe Diem Baby, Unforgiven 2, etc. to be ballads, and I think there is still hope for that.

I have no idea how you could consider Fixxxer or Carpe Diem Baby to be anything remotely similar to a ballad.

I guess our definitions of "ballad" may vary.

The Oxford English Dictionary defines it as "a slow sentimental or romantic song". I think both Fixxxer and Carpe Diem Baby are slow sentimental songs.

[Adami]

So is Sad But True, Wherever I May Roam, and other songs I'm way too lazy to think about right now.

I think, in the context of the metal genre, that definition might not be completely accurate.

Unless we want to define ballads as "totally amazing songs", in which case those songs you listed are totally ballads. 

[seasonsinthesky]

I hope that by ballad, Lars meant - songs that are largely acoustic or clean electric guitar-based.

I personally would consider Fixxxer, Carpe Diem Baby, Unforgiven 2, etc. to be ballads, and I think there is still hope for that.

I have no idea how you could consider Fixxxer or Carpe Diem Baby to be anything remotely similar to a ballad.

I guess our definitions of "ballad" may vary.

The Oxford English Dictionary defines it as "a slow sentimental or romantic song". I think both Fixxxer and Carpe Diem Baby are slow sentimental songs.

To be fair, the correct term as blossomed in '80s music journalism is 'power ballad.' The difference between power and non-power ballads these days can be very thin, with the constant hybridization and re-hybridization of genres. Metallica were pretty consistent with the method, though – all the songs I listed follow the same basic power ballad structure.

[jammindude]

2nd new song is up!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sajHcUV0F68

[fadetoblackdude7]

2nd new song is up!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sajHcUV0F68

 

[The King in Crimson]

2nd new song is up!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sajHcUV0F68

Better than the first.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Quality.

[PixelDream]

Somehow I keep coming back to this album. My first Metallica album was The Black Album when I was around 7 years old. I thought it was their first because it was simply titled 'Metallica'. Then I got this and loved it straight away. It was only after these two that I got to know the thrash albums of the 80's.

I'll be the first to praise Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets, but I'm glad Load exists. It fails in spots, but where it succeeds there's some of the most astounding songs the band have ever written. James' vocals and lyrics are excellent and the production and guitar tones are just out of this world. It's not thrash metal, but it's good.

[Kotowboy]

Load & Reload are both great. I really don't know what people's problem with them are.



Reload was one of my first Metallica albums and I love it.

Furthermore : I think that the weakest tracks on Reload are better than Load's weakest tracks.

i.e I'd rather listen to " Better Than You " than " Poor Twisted Me " any day.


Plus Bleeding Me, Fixxxer , Where The Wild Things Are, Mama Said, Unforgiven II and The Outlaw Torn

[Adami]

Load & Reload are both great. I really don't know what people's problem with them are.



Reload was one of my first Metallica albums and I love it.

Furthermore : I think that the weakest tracks on Reload are better than Load's weakest tracks.

i.e I'd rather listen to " Better Than You " than " Poor Twisted Me " any day.

Agree 100%. Maybe more, but I'd have to check my math.

[Kotowboy]