NFL 2024 season - v. Greatest Pats...and 31 other cool teams

[hefdaddy42]

So...is Bo Nix any good?  At least likely to be better than Zach Wilson?  His numbers in the minors last year look pretty good, but that doesn't mean it will translate.

Yes.  I think he's pro-ready.  Maybe not "start game 1" ready, but that wouldn't surprise me, either.

[cramx3]

Couldn't watch more than five picks in the draft.  Dislike most of it. They have the worst fans of all time in the front row (I can't for the life of me fathom how they get 150,000 people to show up for that), and Roger Goodell trying to be a gangster and clasping hands and hugging each of the picks makes me nauseous.  I get it, it's a me problem and I own it.

You aren't the only one who finds it unwatchable.  I think the whole thing is really interesting how it works and the behind close doors deals and the excitement.... but none of that translates to good TV for me. Let alone how you actually want to be there in person.

[faizoff]

Anyone watch the Roast of Tom Brady on Netflix? I rolled my eyes when they announced it and said Kevin Hart was going to host. I wanted to check the first few mins and holy shit this is brutal, loll I ended up watching an hour because it was relentless. Who knew Drew Bledsoe could do a comic standup bit. Nikki Glaser just killed it, and Kevin Hart so far has actually been funny. Randy Moss was the only dud so far, though I don't blame him.

[Stadler]

Anyone watch the Roast of Tom Brady on Netflix? I rolled my eyes when they announced it and said Kevin Hart was going to host. I wanted to check the first few mins and holy shit this is brutal, loll I ended up watching an hour because it was relentless. Who knew Drew Bledsoe could do a comic standup bit. Nikki Glaser just killed it, and Kevin Hart so far has actually been funny. Randy Moss was the only dud so far, though I don't blame him.

Nikki Glaser is hilarious.   Did Bill really mention the 10-part documentary as his own roast?   

[faizoff]

Nikki Glaser is hilarious.   Did Bill really mention the 10-part documentary as his own roast?   

Just watched his part, he did indeed take a dig at it. His bit was great.

[cramx3]

Anyone watch the Roast of Tom Brady on Netflix? I rolled my eyes when they announced it and said Kevin Hart was going to host. I wanted to check the first few mins and holy shit this is brutal, loll I ended up watching an hour because it was relentless. Who knew Drew Bledsoe could do a comic standup bit. Nikki Glaser just killed it, and Kevin Hart so far has actually been funny. Randy Moss was the only dud so far, though I don't blame him.

I want to check this out. The roasts are often pretty funny and sometimes its because of how bad the celebrity roasters are.  Nikki has been funny on these before.

[faizoff]

Man they really went all out with everyone. The whole thing is 3 hours long, watched an hour last night, some today, might finish the rest later tonight. The players were more cordial after the roast but the comedians never let up.

[Stadler]

Now I know Jeffrey Ross is on, I'm going to check it out.  Apparently Brady got up and whispered in his ear "Knock that shit off" when Ross mentioned the massage parlor incident; that alone makes Jeffrey Ross the GOAT in my eyes, since I now despise Robert Kraft that backstabbing self-aggrandizing son of a bitch.

[faizoff]

Now I know Jeffrey Ross is on, I'm going to check it out.  Apparently Brady got up and whispered in his ear "Knock that shit off" when Ross mentioned the massage parlor incident; that alone makes Jeffrey Ross the GOAT in my eyes, since I now despise Robert Kraft that backstabbing self-aggrandizing son of a bitch.

There's a theme in the whole thing which you tend to realize, the comedians just go all out no holds barred on anyone, like literally anyone, the kids, the family, everyone! The players hold back a bit. Brady's thing got caught in the mic to Jeff Ross about "don't say that shit again", which have prompted people online to speculate it may have been a planned bit, but who the hell knows.

[Stadler]

There's a theme in the whole thing which you tend to realize, the comedians just go all out no holds barred on anyone, like literally anyone, the kids, the family, everyone! The players hold back a bit. Brady's thing got caught in the mic to Jeff Ross about "don't say that shit again", which have prompted people online to speculate it may have been a planned bit, but who the hell knows.

And I have no doubt that Jeffrey Ross was like "whatever, dude". He's certainly said a lot worse about a lot better people than Bob Kraft.

[cramx3]

Jeff Ross is usually the best, got a picture with him somewhere from one of those big comedy tours like 5 or so years ago that he hosted but during sets would just wonder the crowd and chat with people.

[El Barto]

Now I know Jeffrey Ross is on, I'm going to check it out.  Apparently Brady got up and whispered in his ear "Knock that shit off" when Ross mentioned the massage parlor incident; that alone makes Jeffrey Ross the GOAT in my eyes, since I now despise Robert Kraft that backstabbing self-aggrandizing son of a bitch.

I haven't seen it, but from what I've read that wasn't the joke. The joke was TB12 offering to give RKK a "massage." Huge difference. 

I guess I'd have to see it, but it'd be interesting if he felt the need to stand up for his own masculinity more than his beloved former boss and friend.

[Jamesman42]

I wish Greg Giraldo was still alive. Best roaster ever. I usually binge watch his old roasts once a year.

[Cool Chris]

I wish Greg Giraldo was still alive. Best roaster ever. I usually binge watch his old roasts once a year.

I gave up on these roasts when they started becoming more of a mainstream thing, and have no interest in watching this one. But I would think differently if Greg Giraldo was still alive and participated in this.

[Stadler]

I haven't seen it, but from what I've read that wasn't the joke. The joke was TB12 offering to give RKK a "massage." Huge difference. 

I guess I'd have to see it, but it'd be interesting if he felt the need to stand up for his own masculinity more than his beloved former boss and friend.

No, you're 100% correct, I just phrased it very poorly.  But you're right, it does make a difference, because it is (or could be) a very different joke otherwise.

[gmillerdrake]

The roast was hilarious.....Jason Whitlock said it best when he pointed out that with it being on Netflix all the PC crap was out the window....it really opened it up to anything goes.....and it went.

[cramx3]

Jeff Ross has since stated Tom wasn't offended, I think it was all in good fun.  Although after Jeff finished and those two talked, Kevin Hart making fun of Jeff for trying to be nice to Tom was hilarious.

[faizoff]

Howard Stern asksing Nikki Glaser about the Kraft joke, saying that they didn't know if Kraft was going to be at the show and TB treats him as a father figure, which he didn't want people to go there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WhxJ4QsXmc&ab_channel=TheHowardSternShow

[Cool Chris]

Nikki Glaser goodness gracious. I originally typed out the joke but it really needs her delivery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFHXnJeF2PI

[Stadler]

I don't know if they have help or not - I'm guessing "yes" - but these roasts show how much research comedians do for these things.  I think you really have to know your subject - not just the person, but the career, the industry, whatever - to make good jokes.

[Dream Team]

Good take here on TB's narcissism. The fact that it's his face being used to advertise the first Fox game of the week with the actual teams playing in tiny font speaks volumes. Normal people would say "hey that's a little over the top, let's just be about the game". Good closeup of the sunken cheeks though. What'd they use, a shop vac? 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpvAz__nn2I

[King Postwhore]

It's called marketing and so many do it now.  Even this old fart post stupid stuff like where I am.

[Stadler]

Good take here on TB's narcissism. The fact that it's his face being used to advertise the first Fox game of the week with the actual teams playing in tiny font speaks volumes. Normal people would say "hey that's a little over the top, let's just be about the game". Good closeup of the sunken cheeks though. What'd they use, a shop vac? 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpvAz__nn2I

Wow, your hatred runs deep.  At least we're talking about Brady who has ACTUALLY DONE IT rather than Mahomes who still has to actually achieve the greatness so many are willing to foist on him.

[hunnus2000]

Wow, your hatred runs deep.  At least we're talking about Brady who has ACTUALLY DONE IT rather than Mahomes who still has to actually achieve the greatness so many are willing to foist on him.

Patrick Mahomes has been to 4 straight Super Bowls and won 3 of them. He's a first ballot HoFer so let's just confirm that he has achieved "greatness".

Will he surpass TB? Doubtful but I know the Chiefs fans around these parts are incredibly happy!

[Stadler]

You're stepping into a conversation that is four years - or more - in the making.  My beef isn't with Mahomes; he is truly great, there's no question about that.   But he's not the GOAT, which is what many people have been saying for well before he even won his second.  My beef is with the way people have to anoint the next greatest before they have even achieved great, and with how we have to tear down those that ARE the GOAT in order to justify "our opinion".   Mahomes IS great; he's not in the top three GOATS, though, not yet.  When he does a complete iteration of all his supporting cast and THEN achieves what he did - which is what Brady did, TWICE - then he's in the conversation.

But again, you're watching a TV show and tuned in 41 minutes after the hour; Dream Team has been taking every opportunity to denigrate and downplay Brady (often but not always in favor of Mahomes) for years now.

[hunnus2000]

You're stepping into a conversation that is four years - or more - in the making.  My beef isn't with Mahomes; he is truly great, there's no question about that.   But he's not the GOAT, which is what many people have been saying for well before he even won his second.  My beef is with the way people have to anoint the next greatest before they have even achieved great, and with how we have to tear down those that ARE the GOAT in order to justify "our opinion".   Mahomes IS great; he's not in the top three GOATS, though, not yet.  When he does a complete iteration of all his supporting cast and THEN achieves what he did - which is what Brady did, TWICE - then he's in the conversation.

But again, you're watching a TV show and tuned in 41 minutes after the hour; Dream Team has been taking every opportunity to denigrate and downplay Brady (often but not always in favor of Mahomes) for years now.

Oh, I've been following this thread for a long time. I agree that TB is the GOAT but to deny PM greatness is unfair. BTW - when you respond to PH being the GOAT - you're just getting played.

[hefdaddy42]

FFS

[King Postwhore]

LOL

[KevShmev]

I'm already imaging how delicious the tears are going to be of certain persons in this thread when Brady announces a Chiefs game this year and Taylor Swift is on the screen at the same time he is talking.

[Stadler]

I'm already imaging how delicious the tears are going to be of certain persons in this thread when Brady announces a Chiefs game this year and Taylor Swift is on the screen at the same time he is talking.

I'd even watch that with the sound up! 

[hefdaddy42]

I'm already imaging how delicious the tears are going to be of certain persons in this thread when Brady announces a Chiefs game this year and Taylor Swift is on the screen at the same time he is talking.

[faizoff]

I'm already imaging how delicious the tears are going to be of certain persons in this thread when Brady announces a Chiefs game this year and Taylor Swift is on the screen at the same time he is talking.

Yes, it will be great to see Brady refer to Mahomes as the GOAT during his commentary. 


I am curious how his commentary will be, I don't know if he has the natural charisma for it.


Belichick is supposed to be a permanent guest on the Manningcast, hopefully it's even fewer guests and more football talk between the 3 of them.




Bucs make Winfield highest paid safety and deservedly so. The guy's been a stud every season. Wirfs is next, can't believe they both got drafted the same year.


I think the past 5 years or so the front office for the Bucs has been doing pretty good, drafting well getting good talent who have been performing well. All in all Jason Licht as the GM has been doing a solid job.

[El Barto]

Yes, it will be great to see Brady refer to Mahomes as the GOAT during his commentary. 

Would you believe him if he did, or would you chalk it up to modesty?

I am curious how his commentary will be, I don't know if he has the natural charisma for it.


Belichick is supposed to be a permanent guest on the Manningcast, hopefully it's even fewer guests and more football talk between the 3 of them.

I never thought of him as particularly charismatic, so I never figured he'd be good at this. You never know, though. As for Belichick and the Mannings, it'll be good the first night. After that I think it'll get old. Belichick is obviously great at doing the Xs and Os, but not so great at the juvenile banter that seems to be en vogue nowadays.

Bucs make Winfield highest paid safety and deservedly so. The guy's been a stud every season. Wirfs is next, can't believe they both got drafted the same year.

Damn glad they did it now and not two weeks ago. NE got a relative bargain with Dugger.

[emtee]

I suspect he will be better than Romo but who knows.

[KevShmev]

Be being than Romo at this juncture won't take much, but the optics now, with Brady having waited a year to do this, are now that he is replacing Greg Olsen, who had evolved into a really good color commentator on Fox's number 1 team last year.  Brady will get a lot of time and rope to get good obviously, but it could be rough going early on.