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Title: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Virtualman64 on September 20, 2014, 09:43:44 AM: Has DT ever had a "train wreck" onstage?This might require some research.I've never heard,or seen one,and I have a vast collection of live recordings,and DVDs.Anyone?
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Sycsa on September 20, 2014, 09:50:40 AM: This Pull Me Under rendition verges on being a train wreck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Bdy3vIqVI

Power outage, thus not their fault, but pretty funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tnZvnD0Kek

Nothing went wrong here, but the alternate lyrics and improvs are hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzBCsWv2jfQ
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: sneakyblueberry on September 20, 2014, 10:17:40 AM: Quote from: Sycsa on September 20, 2014, 09:50:40 AM
This Pull Me Under rendition verges on being a train wreck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Bdy3vIqVI

Geeeeezus that was painful :lol
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: wasteland on September 20, 2014, 10:24:48 AM: It happened once that they sort of got carried away during the Zappa Jam in BTL-2004, and followed a faster and faster upwards spiral until they literaly ran out of notes in their instruments to play. So they just stoppe dead for like 5 seconds before reprising the jam on a more somber and funky note.

The audience approved and so do I, incredible live moment!

EDIT: I may actually upload a video of that, it's a very obscure live moment I think should be better known among DT fans!
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: adamack on September 20, 2014, 01:06:35 PM: Quote from: Sycsa on September 20, 2014, 09:50:40 AM

Nothing went wrong here, but the alternate lyrics and improvs are hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzBCsWv2jfQ

Haaa! That's great, I've never heard these.

While on the subject, I was watching this last night and it's hilarious:

https://youtu.be/EhJG9h0CJeU?t=7m35s
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: RoeDent on September 20, 2014, 01:11:50 PM: What the...

"We mooove in circles WAAA-HAAAAOOOW!!!" :lol
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Zydar on September 20, 2014, 01:31:15 PM: Quote from: Sycsa on September 20, 2014, 09:50:40 AM
Power outage, thus not their fault, but pretty funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tnZvnD0Kek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tnZvnD0Kek)

I was at that show :tup
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: adamack on September 20, 2014, 01:53:18 PM: Quote from: RoeDent on September 20, 2014, 01:11:50 PM
What the...

"We mooove in circles WAAA-HAAAAOOOW!!!" :lol

Hahaha. Cracks me up!
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 20, 2014, 06:12:23 PM: They trainwrecked Metropolis when I saw them in Sydney. I can't find a full video, but here's part of it, after they'd already stopped once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgP-WI7E3L0

Jordan wasn't too happy about it afterwards, but for me that was a great spontaneous live moment, and other people I went with figured it was intentional. I love stuff like that.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: TheAtliator on September 20, 2014, 06:40:33 PM: Yea for some reason every time they play this song called Outcry, they get to this part in the middle and no one can decide what key or time signature to play in so it always gets all crazy and disorderly.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Xenon on September 20, 2014, 07:11:45 PM: Not really a live screwup, but that song Enigma Machine is a Train Wreck ;D
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: rumborak on September 20, 2014, 07:40:58 PM: JP's solo in that SoniSphere video is a bit of a train wreck.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: sneakyblueberry on September 20, 2014, 07:53:18 PM: Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 20, 2014, 06:12:23 PM
They trainwrecked Metropolis when I saw them in Sydney. I can't find a full video, but here's part of it, after they'd already stopped once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgP-WI7E3L0

Jordan wasn't too happy about it afterwards, but for me that was a great spontaneous live moment, and other people I went with figured it was intentional. I love stuff like that.

Hahaha. I've seen that before I think. Brain farts.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: TheAtliator on September 20, 2014, 09:05:49 PM: Quote from: wasteland on September 20, 2014, 10:24:48 AM
It happened once that they sort of got carried away during the Zappa Jam in BTL-2004, and followed a faster and faster upwards spiral until they literaly ran out of notes in their instruments to play. So they just stoppe dead for like 5 seconds before reprising the jam on a more somber and funky note.

The audience approved and so do I, incredible live moment!

EDIT: I may actually upload a video of that, it's a very obscure live moment I think should be better known among DT fans!

Please do. That's an incredible description there.

Also, https://youtu.be/WHEsijaLMOs?t=6m55s . Jordan's mistake, by the way, then John was distracted by him, but JLB and MM stayed on.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Xenon on September 20, 2014, 09:20:53 PM: Quote from: rumborak on September 20, 2014, 07:40:58 PM
JP's solo in that SoniSphere video is a bit of a train wreck.
And the rest of the song too.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: goo-goo on September 20, 2014, 09:56:07 PM: Metropolis pt 1 from the 2000 Phoenix show. They had to restart the song I think
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on September 21, 2014, 01:52:09 AM: Only a Matter of Time - October 1992 in Long Island -- Home Sweet Home bootleg. JP waffles up the riff following the orchestral break, but at least he didn't fall of the stage this time.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Mladen on September 21, 2014, 04:06:31 AM: Quote from: TheAtliator on September 20, 2014, 09:05:49 PM
Also, https://youtu.be/WHEsijaLMOs?t=6m55s . Jordan's mistake, by the way, then John was distracted by him, but JLB and MM stayed on.
Yep. And that's why click tracks help. Funny video, though. :lol
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Sycsa on September 21, 2014, 05:10:35 AM: Quote from: Xenon on September 20, 2014, 07:11:45 PM
Not really a live screwup, but that song Enigma Machine is a Train Wreck ;D
Quote from: Xenon on September 20, 2014, 09:20:53 PM
Quote from: rumborak on September 20, 2014, 07:40:58 PM
JP's solo in that SoniSphere video is a bit of a train wreck.
And the rest of the song too.
:yeahright
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Virtualman64 on September 21, 2014, 09:25:14 AM: Great subject!At least it proves they actually play live.Unlike so many entertainers these days.You guys know what I mean.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: ? on September 21, 2014, 11:49:31 AM: Probably doesn't fit the definition of a trainwreck, but this year in Helsinki JP started his lead before the first verse in Trial of Tears with the wrong note and proceeded to play an improvised solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBW_MEyGPwE#t=8m2s I thought it was intentional until I saw other live videos from the tour :D
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Sycsa on September 21, 2014, 12:19:32 PM: Quote from: Virtualman64 on September 21, 2014, 09:25:14 AM
Great subject!At least it proves they actually play live.Unlike so many entertainers these days.You guys know what I mean.
Not really, I don't know anyone who doesn't play live this genre and those are the performers DT can be compared to. I used to scowl at bands that used triggered backing vocals and audio effects to enhance their live sound (Nightwish for instance), but now DT is one of those bands, so...
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: nemonius on September 21, 2014, 12:43:54 PM: Small timing problem in Metropolis pt. 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_RuBLCPPjk
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Rodni Demental on September 21, 2014, 07:22:30 PM: There was a "train-wreck" moment in the Dance of Eternity this tour and a "mistake" in Overture. I use quotation marks because I would barely consider the Overture thing a mistake, it's just a note that most people don't notice. And the Dance of Eternity I think was Mangini getting lost on the tempo, but they kept it together surprisingly well so I dunno if it's a trainwreck but it's noticeable if you're familiar with the song. I think it was the second show they played? Where all the video and lighting got screwy and they cut Scarred out of the set. There's a video out there but I can't find it.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: goo-goo on September 21, 2014, 08:08:56 PM: Quote from: goo-goo on September 20, 2014, 09:56:07 PM
Metropolis pt 1 from the 2000 Phoenix show. They had to restart the song I think

I meant to say that Metropolis Pt 1 from the 2000 August show in Phoenix. They restarted the song twice I think.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: erwinrafael on September 21, 2014, 09:30:20 PM: This is a trainwreck version of 6'o clock, MP just played too fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwNM5ikaMfc

They only recovered after Rudess' solo.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on September 21, 2014, 10:03:40 PM: Nah, its kinda cool at that tempo. No big gaffs, but MP does a slight accent change that surprises the other guys, but they maintain control IMO.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: adamack on September 21, 2014, 11:04:26 PM: Quote from: Xenon on September 20, 2014, 07:11:45 PM
Not really a live screwup, but that song Enigma Machine is a Train Wreck ;D

Haha, touche!

...And dead on.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: erwinrafael on September 21, 2014, 11:44:34 PM: Quote from: RaiseTheKnife on September 21, 2014, 10:03:40 PM
Nah, its kinda cool at that tempo. No big gaffs, but MP does a slight accent change that surprises the other guys, but they maintain control IMO.

C'mon. The feel of the song disappeared with that tempo, JM barely could keep up with his complicated bass lines having to be played at a very fast speed. If they are comfortable playing that song at that tempo, JR would have maintained the quick pace at the 3:16 mark when he set the pace. But he did not and played at the manageable tempo.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on September 21, 2014, 11:57:17 PM: Still doesn't rise to the descrption of a "train wreck."
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: SystematicThought on September 22, 2014, 12:00:11 AM: Quote from: erwinrafael on September 21, 2014, 09:30:20 PM
This is a trainwreck version of 6'o clock, MP just played too fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwNM5ikaMfc

They only recovered after Rudess' solo.
It's amazing how far DT's light shows have come. :lol
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: erwinrafael on September 22, 2014, 12:03:41 AM: Quote from: SystematicThought on September 22, 2014, 12:00:11 AM
Quote from: erwinrafael on September 21, 2014, 09:30:20 PM
This is a trainwreck version of 6'o clock, MP just played too fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwNM5ikaMfc

They only recovered after Rudess' solo.
It's amazing how far DT's light shows have come. :lol

LOL! I also don't know what is more of a train wreck. JR's hair or JLB showing cleavage. :biggrin:
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Virtualman64 on September 22, 2014, 08:32:00 AM: Quote from: Sycsa on September 21, 2014, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: Virtualman64 on September 21, 2014, 09:25:14 AM
Great subject!At least it proves they actually play live.Unlike so many entertainers these days.You guys know what I mean.
Not really, I don't know anyone who doesn't play live this genre and those are the performers DT can be compared to. I used to scowl at bands that used triggered backing vocals and audio effects to enhance their live sound (Nightwish for instance), but now DT is one of those bands, so...
I was speaking primarily about Pop Stars I guess.Anyway,I know Rush uses triggers,etc.and I've never had a problem with that.It hard to pull some of this stuff of completely live.
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Tim van Duijn on September 22, 2014, 03:07:23 PM: 7:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHEsijaLMOs
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: genome on September 22, 2014, 05:28:35 PM: Not a band wreck but Petrucci plays a blinder in Trial of Tears here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPi8z1ayIbU&t=3m47s
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Xenon on September 22, 2014, 08:16:20 PM: Not that much of a train wreck, but funny as hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOMXdkiGGw4
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Grizz on September 22, 2014, 08:41:26 PM: JP's face :lol
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: erwinrafael on September 23, 2014, 02:37:59 AM: JP a real team player there. Hahaha
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: genome on September 23, 2014, 05:41:21 AM: Quote from: Xenon on September 22, 2014, 08:16:20 PM
Not that much of a train wreck, but funny as hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOMXdkiGGw4

:rollin
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Nekov on September 23, 2014, 08:49:19 AM: :rollin
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: kirksnosehair on September 23, 2014, 01:42:24 PM: That's fucking awesome!! :rollin
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: adamack on September 23, 2014, 09:26:30 PM: Quote from: Xenon on September 22, 2014, 08:16:20 PM
Not that much of a train wreck, but funny as hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOMXdkiGGw4

Hahaha awesome!
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: SystematicThought on September 23, 2014, 10:00:20 PM: He topped it the next night here in Minnesota when he completely fell off the stage during Bridges In The Sky
Title: Re: I've got an interesting topic.Train Wreck?
Post by: Mladen on September 25, 2014, 04:20:14 AM: It's still hard to get over the fact that there's no footage of that. :lol