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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2065 on: August 24, 2015, 10:34:41 AM »
Certainly looks like an improvement. Normally they look like high school plays, but this seems to have progressed to community theater, or perhaps even off-broadway. No interest in watching it or anything, but they do seem to be getting better.

And Admiral Chekov? It took Sulu 20 years to make captain.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2066 on: August 24, 2015, 10:48:13 AM »
Certainly looks like an improvement. Normally they look like high school plays, but this seems to have progressed to community theater, or perhaps even off-broadway. No interest in watching it or anything, but they do seem to be getting better.

And Admiral Chekov? It took Sulu 20 years to make captain.

CG has come a long way for low budget stuff, but I actually thought the CG looked a bit sub-par even for what it is. I put that down to being over-ambitious rather than a lack of talent, because there was actually a ton of CG throughout. The acting and dialogue wasn't particularly good considering there were a lot of semi-known actors in there.

Star Trek Continues is pro all around, although that's much more understated sticking to the TOS style, so it's obviously not an apples to apples comparison. Star Trek Horizon is looking really good so far considering it's all essentially done by one guy, although the acting in that is clearly amateur, and I'm not sure if the script will be much better than this.

I don't mean to knock anyone, as it is what it is, but I expected a little better from Renegades given all of the people involved, the money raised, and the time it took.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2067 on: August 24, 2015, 11:14:26 AM »
:lol Holy crap that looks awful.

Glasses in the 24th century ?!

:lol


We can travel faster than light and solved the problem of mass and can disassemble you atom by atom and put you back together again but sorry we can't cure astigmatism !

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2068 on: August 24, 2015, 11:17:51 AM »
:lol Holy crap that looks awful.

Glasses in the 24th century ?!

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We can travel faster than light and solved the problem of mass and can disassemble you atom by atom and put you back together again but sorry we can't cure astigmatism !

Kirk couldn't get his eyes fixed for whatever reason according to TWOK, plus it's a matter of access to good medical facilities.
Keep in mind I haven't watched this, and don't even care.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2069 on: August 24, 2015, 11:20:41 AM »
I just watched about a minute of it and Walter Koenig is not even trying. Worst acting i've ever heard from him.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2070 on: August 24, 2015, 12:46:44 PM »
I just watched about a minute of it and Walter Koenig is not even trying. Worst acting i've ever heard from him.
How could you tell?

He's never been good.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2071 on: August 24, 2015, 01:51:22 PM »
At least before he sounded like he was trying :lol

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2072 on: August 24, 2015, 02:00:03 PM »
Certainly looks like an improvement. Normally they look like high school plays, but this seems to have progressed to community theater, or perhaps even off-broadway. No interest in watching it or anything, but they do seem to be getting better.

And Admiral Chekov? It took Sulu 20 years to make captain.

CG has come a long way for low budget stuff, but I actually thought the CG looked a bit sub-par even for what it is. I put that down to being over-ambitious rather than a lack of talent, because there was actually a ton of CG throughout. The acting and dialogue wasn't particularly good considering there were a lot of semi-known actors in there.

Star Trek Continues is pro all around, although that's much more understated sticking to the TOS style, so it's obviously not an apples to apples comparison. Star Trek Horizon is looking really good so far considering it's all essentially done by one guy, although the acting in that is clearly amateur, and I'm not sure if the script will be much better than this.

I don't mean to knock anyone, as it is what it is, but I expected a little better from Renegades given all of the people involved, the money raised, and the time it took.
It wasn't the CG I was referring to; any of these shows can pull that off nowadays. The others just have a cheap, highschool drama quality about them with the acting, lighting and whatnot. While I don't have audio here so I can't comment as to the lighting, skimming through it looked quite a bit more professional than the other fan stuff I've seen.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2073 on: August 24, 2015, 02:10:05 PM »
It looked pretty bad to me . The VFX looked worse than a SyFy movie.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2074 on: August 26, 2015, 01:09:54 PM »
Watching Voyager. Macrocosm. Not a bad episode. Nods to Alien and Ripley.

A bit darker than usual which I like.


Interesting episode all round. Didn't feel or end like a traditional Voyager episode - with the jazz music playing out over a shot of the ship.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2075 on: August 26, 2015, 10:22:47 PM »
All I really remember of that episode is the Janeway being a badass bit (and the obvious Alien influence). The alien blobs weren't very memorable. S3 and onwards is generally better though, once they ditched the barnacle heads for good.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2076 on: August 26, 2015, 11:07:09 PM »
I have a strange urge to watch Voyager again...
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2077 on: August 26, 2015, 11:50:33 PM »
I need to finally get TNG and watch through all Trek in airing order. But first I need to finish watching through all 26 seasons of the original Doctor Who. :|
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2078 on: August 27, 2015, 05:51:09 AM »
I need to finally get TNG and watch through all Trek in airing order. But first I need to finish watching through all 26 seasons of the original Doctor Who. :|

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2079 on: August 27, 2015, 05:53:55 AM »
I need to finally get TNG and watch through all Trek in airing order. But first I need to finish watching through all 26 seasons of the original Doctor Who. :|

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It's dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. :lol
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2080 on: August 27, 2015, 09:20:08 AM »
All I really remember of that episode is the Janeway being a badass bit (and the obvious Alien influence). The alien blobs weren't very memorable. S3 and onwards is generally better though, once they ditched the barnacle heads for good.
The whole thing just seemed like an excuse to have Janeway run around in a tank-top like Ripley. I honestly got more of a John McClane vibe from it, though. I'm surprised they didn't hold off on the thing until Jeri Ryan joined up.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2081 on: August 27, 2015, 09:26:34 AM »
All I really remember of that episode is the Janeway being a badass bit (and the obvious Alien influence). The alien blobs weren't very memorable. S3 and onwards is generally better though, once they ditched the barnacle heads for good.
The whole thing just seemed like an excuse to have Janeway run around in a tank-top like Ripley. I honestly got more of a John McClane vibe from it, though. I'm surprised they didn't hold off on the thing until Jeri Ryan joined up.

I don't remember much of it, but I don't remember getting a Die Hard feeling from it, just Alien. But yeah, it seemed very much like that was the one thought behind it. They may not have quite thought that far ahead to 7 of 9 yet. Maybe seeing Janeway in that episode is what motivated that casting decision. :neverusethis:
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2082 on: August 27, 2015, 10:19:03 AM »
Well, I despise Alien and its sequels, so it's not surprising that I'd see a different take on it.

And considering that looking hot in a sweaty tank-top was probably very low on the list of criteria when casting Cpt. Janeway, I thought she did alright for herself.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2083 on: August 27, 2015, 10:23:56 AM »
I've never actually seen an Alien movie because I despise what little I saw, so it was a very surface comparison for me anyway. :lol

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2084 on: August 27, 2015, 11:01:51 AM »
Well, I despise Alien and its sequel.


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And you thought I hated everything. ::)

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2085 on: August 27, 2015, 11:17:34 AM »
I've never actually seen an Alien movie because I despise what little I saw, so it was a very surface comparison for me anyway. :lol
Yup. Exact same. Just a tone that I'm not crazy about.

Well, I despise Alien and its sequel.


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And you thought I hated everything. ::)
Nah, don't think I've ever thought that. In fact, where we disagree is the reboots which you adore. 
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2086 on: August 27, 2015, 11:33:57 AM »
:lol I don't think i've seen you say anything positive about Star Trek in this whole thread.

And yes I love the last two films. They are FAR superior to at least two if not all the TNG movies.

I love Generations.  First Contact gets worse every time I see it. Insurrection is the worst Trek movie of all time and I actually really enjoyed Nemesis the last time I watched it.

Nemesis is even more of a Wrath Of Khan rip off than Into Darkness. At least Into Darkness made no bones about it paying homage to a better movie .

Nemesis just ripped it off and hoped nobody would notice.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2087 on: August 27, 2015, 11:14:05 PM »
As crap as Nemesis is, Nemesis is still a miles better movie than Into Darkness. I still haven't gotten all the way through a second viewing of Into Darkness.
What was the point of rebooting the entire universe when those hacks still couldn't come up with a single original idea? Then they tried to sneakily hide the fact it was a ripoff as long as possible by making awful casting choices. If you're going to rip off a classic, at least pay some respect to it. The big "reveal" that it was Khan could not have fallen flatter, because the characters had no clue who it was. Tell us who you are. I'm bob. Oh, ok bob. That means nothing to us. Oh wait, the better older Spock from the better older universe tells us you're dangerous. Sorry, bob.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2088 on: August 27, 2015, 11:57:17 PM »


Just randomly saw this on another forum and found it appropriate. :lol
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2089 on: August 28, 2015, 08:03:44 AM »
 :lol
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2090 on: August 28, 2015, 10:46:16 AM »
FAIL.


Should have AT LEAST had the shot just after The Ceti Eels have gone inside Terrell and Chekov's ears and Khan says " THAT'S BETTER ".




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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2091 on: August 28, 2015, 11:02:42 AM »
But then it wouldn't have even had the continuity of him still being in the chair.


And as if we didn't all read it in Ricardo Montalban's voice anyway. :lol
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2092 on: August 28, 2015, 11:06:58 AM »
ALTERNATE TIMELINE

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2093 on: August 28, 2015, 11:07:41 AM »
What does that have to do with your previous point?
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2094 on: August 28, 2015, 11:10:50 AM »
nothing it was a joke.














I feel like we need two Star Trek threads. One for everyone to talk about Star Trek and the other for everyone else to bitch about every fuckin thing they can think of.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2095 on: August 28, 2015, 11:15:47 AM »
Or maybe one for prime universe, and one for "misc". :biggrin:
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2096 on: August 28, 2015, 11:29:51 AM »
Or maybe one for prime universe, and one for "misc". :biggrin:

I mock you wanting only one timeline as you watch a billion shows with multiple timelines and that's your gig.


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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2097 on: August 28, 2015, 11:35:27 AM »
" The Star Trek Thread "

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« Reply #2098 on: August 28, 2015, 11:37:12 AM »
I feel like we need two Star Trek threads. One for everyone to talk about Star Trek and the other for everyone else to bitch about every fuckin thing they can think of.

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« Reply #2099 on: August 28, 2015, 11:40:46 AM »
 :lol

And change the lonely club thread to the Pon Farr Thread. :lol
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