2019 NFL Thread v. Chiefs are Champs, Missouri rules the sports world

[PowerSlave]

Several of his teammates were asked about today and acted surprised because they had clearly heard nothing about it before today, meaning Garrett likely made it up to try and excuse his actions.  Frankly, if I am Mason Rudolph and I didn't say it, I am reconsidering filing charges.  If Garrett is going to make up something like that to assassinate his character, screw that, go scorched earth on him and see how he likes dealing with an assault charge.

As bad as MG making up the thing about the slur is, MR filing charges would stick with him as a negative for much longer. I don't think that most fans care about the language being used on the field, but some of them would probably think that MR would be over-reacting if he filed the charges and it would be setting a dangerous precedent.

I don't really agree with the view that I think most fans would take, but I honestly think that it would go in that direction.

[Stadler]

Several of his teammates were asked about today and acted surprised because they had clearly heard nothing about it before today, meaning Garrett likely made it up to try and excuse his actions.  Frankly, if I am Mason Rudolph and I didn't say it, I am reconsidering filing charges.  If Garrett is going to make up something like that to assassinate his character, screw that, go scorched earth on him and see how he likes dealing with an assault charge.

As bad as MG making up the thing about the slur is, MR filing charges would stick with him as a negative for much longer. I don't think that most fans care about the language being used on the field, but some of them would probably think that MR would be over-reacting if he filed the charges and it would be setting a dangerous precedent.

I don't really agree with the view that I think most fans would take, but I honestly think that it would go in that direction.

Maybe, but Mason's lawyer calling MG's lawyer and saying "Listen, broheim; knock this shit off.  We're not threatened at all, and I'm sure you don't want your client to be the next Jussie Kaepernick" might do something.  I think Bosk is right; it is likely something easily verified, both with players in proximity, to analysis of the tape, to a scrub of the field level mics they have (the parabola ones are remarkably good at picking up sound, even if it might be a further puzzle to affirm who made the sound). 

[Dream Team]

The only people that believe Garrett’s BS are low IQ Browns and Bengals fans. If you ever perused message boards of those teams you’d be astonished at the level of misanthropy, delusion, and ignorance. One of the posters has the image of Garrett trying to bash Rudolph’s skull in as his avatar. I peruse a lot of NFL forums but the Bengals and Browns are easily the worst. Not even Jets, Bills, and Dolphins fans have as much animosity toward the Patriots as those 2 teams’ fans have against the Steelers.

[KevShmev]

The only people that believe Garrett’s BS are low IQ Browns and Bengals fans. If you ever perused message boards of those teams you’d be astonished at the level of misanthropy, delusion, and ignorance. One of the posters has the image of Garrett trying to bash Rudolph’s skull in as his avatar. I peruse a lot of NFL forums but the Bengals and Browns are easily the worst. Not even Jets, Bills, and Dolphins fans have as much animosity toward the Patriots as those 2 teams’ fans have against the Steelers.

Well, decades of getting your ass kicked by that franchise over and over and over and over and over and over will inspire a lot of hate.

[TheCountOfNYC]

The only people that believe Garrett’s BS are low IQ Browns and Bengals fans. If you ever perused message boards of those teams you’d be astonished at the level of misanthropy, delusion, and ignorance. One of the posters has the image of Garrett trying to bash Rudolph’s skull in as his avatar. I peruse a lot of NFL forums but the Bengals and Browns are easily the worst. Not even Jets, Bills, and Dolphins fans have as much animosity toward the Patriots as those 2 teams’ fans have against the Steelers.

Well, decades of getting your ass kicked by that franchise over and over and over and over and over and over will inspire a lot of hate.

I don’t think it’s fair to chalk it up to that. I’m a Jets fan and I’ve endured a lot of Patriots related heartbreak. My avatar on another forum used to be a picture of Brady standing in stunned silence as the Jets scored a touchdown in the 2010 playoffs. However, I would never have a picture of Brady laying on the field after tearing his ACL as my avatar. You can have intense hatred towards a team, but you should couple it with this thing called class.

[PowerSlave]

The only people that believe Garrett’s BS are low IQ Browns and Bengals fans. If you ever perused message boards of those teams you’d be astonished at the level of misanthropy, delusion, and ignorance. One of the posters has the image of Garrett trying to bash Rudolph’s skull in as his avatar. I peruse a lot of NFL forums but the Bengals and Browns are easily the worst. Not even Jets, Bills, and Dolphins fans have as much animosity toward the Patriots as those 2 teams’ fans have against the Steelers.

Well, decades of getting your ass kicked by that franchise over and over and over and over and over and over will inspire a lot of hate.

I'm a life-long (46 1/2 years) Ohio resident, and I'd be willing to say that many of my home state's sports fans don't exhibit much class to speak of. The only local team that I root for is Ohio State, and I tend to keep my discussion of them low-key because I don't want to be lumped in with the rest of the fanbase that act like ignorant children. Of course, these are only generalizations, and don't apply to them as a whole, but I'll be damned if a great deal of them don't make it difficult most of the time.

[Dream Team]

Whoops, forgot to tell you guys to put your money on the Bengals. Too late I guess. Rudolph and the offense are beyond putrid.

[TheCountOfNYC]

The Jets are a completely different team when their offensive line is playing well. Give Sam Darnold pass protection and he’s a superstar.

[Ben_Jamin]

Haha they bench Rudloph and scored a touchdown.

[TheCountOfNYC]

4-7 with a fairly easy schedule other than the Ravens. The Jets won’t make the playoffs this year, but they have a shot at having a respectable record especially when you consider the nightmare start to their season without Darnold.

[max_security]

 "Flu-gate" seems off to a slow start. I'm thinking some schmo with all access passes to last weeks Dallas game makes it into the locker room post - game … " The Dallas Cowboys , man I love all-ya-all AHHHH-CHOOOO ". Shaking hands , getting up close and every so often "AHHHH-CHOOOO ".

[TAC]

I believe they worked for Kraft Productions.

[max_security]

I believe they worked for Kraft Productions.

Craft Laboratories Inc. Some homeless cat , Friday he was broke and cold on a side street in Boston. Sunday he is getting off a plane ( and sweating ) with an uber waiting on him at DAL airport. AhhChooo. 

[lonestar]

Serious ass whooping happening in Santa Clara...

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

I called it weeks ago and I'll say it again, the Niners are THE team to beat. Just completely dominated the Packers.

Although next week will be the true test, against the Ravens.

[lonestar]

I completely agree...and I'd love to face Seattle again now with Kittle back. He adds that extra something to defend that just opens up the run game so nicely. Just hope they all stay healthy.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Hopefully Staley will be back next week.

[Architeuthis]

I completely agree...and I'd love to face Seattle again now with Kittle back. He adds that extra something to defend that just opens up the run game so nicely. Just hope they all stay healthy.

Don't they face Seattle again the last game of the season?  I hope Seattle will be ready for that one, the 49ers are probably the strongest team when they are all healthy.  Seahawks are doing pretty good though and their defense is getting better down the stretch. They are also 6-0 on the road and 9-2 overall.   I better double my dose of beta-blockers before that game.. Go Hawks!

[Dream Team]

Wow no comments on those “tripping” calls against Dallas? Anyway, if you were Brady why would you ever retire? He was ass yesterday but the D gave him 2 short fields and that was all that was needed. He could easily ride this D to another Super Bowl.

[KevShmev]

I saw about two minutes of the Dal/NE game, and yeah that tripping call was a farce, but was anyone surprised? 

I saw a little of the GB/SF game, which I am sure the NFL was pleased about flexing into Sunday night until the 49ers showed up looking like world beaters and the Packers looked like a team with a rookie head coach who had no idea how to prepare his team coming off of the bye week. 

[King Postwhore]

Imagine having all these offensive issue and being 10-1?

1st world problems. 

[Stadler]

I saw about two minutes of the Dal/NE game, and yeah that tripping call was a farce, but was anyone surprised? 

Not sure how to take that; if that's more about how "The NFL loves New England", please.   There were about three plays where Edelman got a happy ending from the DB before the pass was thrown and nothing.

If it's a complaint about the unpredictability of the calls, well, that's certainly up for discussion.  Any comments on that Green Bay catch that was ruled incomplete (and not challenged)?   Two steps and a football move, THEN the ball popped out as he hit the ground.  Might not have made a difference, but still...

[Architeuthis]

Wow no comments on those “tripping” calls against Dallas? Anyway, if you were Brady why would you ever retire? He was ass yesterday but the D gave him 2 short fields and that was all that was needed. He could easily ride this D to another Super Bowl.

Both of those tripping calls were bogus, perhaps even costing Dallas the game. Two very important first downs were negated because of those bogus calls. The Patriots did not outplay the Cowboys in that game.
The Cowboys had to play the Patriots and the Refs.

[King Postwhore]

I would say that this was something taught to the Dallas O line as a way to get away with a trip with a wide stance and with all great couches they bring it up to the refs durring the week and before the game to get it on the refs minds.

Jedi mind tricks.

[El Barto]

My take won't be worth anything here, but I agreed with Mike Pereira. The dude stuck his leg up in the air and made contact with the guy. You can't do that. The first one clearly wasn't a trip, though. He was just kicking the guy in the balls.

[Architeuthis]

My take won't be worth anything here, but I agreed with Mike Pereira. The dude stuck his leg up in the air and made contact with the guy. You can't do that. The first one clearly wasn't a trip, though. He was just kicking the guy in the balls.

Yep, your take doesn't mean anything here..   

[TAC]

with all great couches

[Architeuthis]

with all great couches

 

[KevShmev]

Old Man Update:

Tom Brady is now 15th in the NFL in QBR; he is 21st passer rating.
Tom Brady is 28th in the NFL in YPA.
Tom Brady is 14th in the NFL in TD passes.
Tom Brady is 23rd in completion percentage.

Some of y'all can talk about rain, his receivers and his o-line all day, but by just about any measure, he is on the clear decline.  That is probably why he looks so pissy all the time now, as he knows Father Time has arrived, and there is nothing he can do about it. 

[El Barto]

Old Man Update:

Tom Brady is now 15th in the NFL in QBR; he is 21st passer rating.
Tom Brady is 28th in the NFL in YPA.
Tom Brady is 14th in the NFL in TD passes.
Tom Brady is 23rd in completion percentage.

Some of y'all can talk about rain, his receivers and his o-line all day, but by just about any measure, he is on the clear decline.  That is probably why he looks so pissy all the time now, as he knows Father Time has arrived, and there is nothing he can do about it.

What part of him is it that you think is failing? I'm not trying to argue with you, he's certainly not as good as he was, but I'm not seeing any age specific problems.

[TAC]

Grumpy Man Update:

KevShmev is #1 in the league for PITA (Pain In The Ass) Rating
KevShmev is odds on favorite for the Na Na Nananana Award
KevShmev wishes Tom Brady played for the Broncos

[KevShmev]

What part of him is it that you think is failing? I'm not trying to argue with you, he's certainly not as good as he was, but I'm not seeing any age specific problems.

It is never just one little thing.  Heck, Peyton's true decline started in 2014 (IIRC) when he had a quad injury that was just bothersome enough to affect his play, and we've heard about Brady having issues this year with both a knee and an elbow.  Now, you could chalk that up to normal dings and aches over a 16-week season, which most players get, but as you get older, those injuries take longer to heal and pop up more often, and in the case of Brady's knee or elbow, they could be just annoying enough to affect his throws, which might explain why his accuracy has been off at times this season. I have seen him miss throws that he used to make in his sleep.  And plenty of other QB's are dealing with a lot of new receivers this year, so I don't buy the "he is having to deal with new receivers" excuse that I have seen throw out.

Grumpy Man Update:

KevShmev is #1 in the league for PITA (Pain In The Ass) Rating
KevShmev is odds on favorite for the Na Na Nananana Award
KevShmev wishes Tom Brady played for the Broncos

I will take any competent QB at this point.

[El Barto]

What part of him is it that you think is failing? I'm not trying to argue with you, he's certainly not as good as he was, but I'm not seeing any age specific problems.

It is never just one little thing.  Heck, Peyton's true decline started in 2014 (IIRC) when he had a quad injury that was just bothersome enough to affect his play, and we've heard about Brady having issues this year with both a knee and an elbow.  Now, you could chalk that up to normal dings and aches over a 16-week season, which most players get, but as you get older, those injuries take longer to heal and pop up more often, and in the case of Brady's knee or elbow, they could be just annoying enough to affect his throws, which might explain why his accuracy has been off at times this season. I have seen him miss throws that he used to make in his sleep.  And plenty of other QB's are dealing with a lot of new receivers this year, so I don't buy the "he is having to deal with new receivers" excuse that I have seen throw out.

His accuracy has gone off at times over the last few seasons. I haven't done a play by play analysis of his throws over the last 4 years, but I don't think him missing some here and there is anything new. Like I said the other day, he still seems to have plenty of arm strength, and I haven't seen him struggle in the pocket. He's able to step away from pressure same as he always has.

[DragonAttack]

Old Man Update:

Tom Brady is now 15th in the NFL in QBR; he is 21st passer rating.
Tom Brady is 28th in the NFL in YPA.
Tom Brady is 14th in the NFL in TD passes.
Tom Brady is 23rd in completion percentage.
 

Tom Brady is still tied for #1 in the NFL regarding wins as a starting QB for the 2019 season.  That final clock eating drive was the work of a master, and he cannot be faulted because their team has an out of retirement, semi erratic kicker.   

If Brees had to play his home games outdoors in the rain and 20MPH winds, his numbers would drop considerably.  Prescott sure did set the world on fire yesterday .......... not.

Aaron Rodgers numbers once again out west last night were ??  (abysmal)

Go, Ravens!

[King Postwhore]

with all great couches

 

Kev, I think we all know he's not the 2007 QB.  It's hard to judge it because how poorly the offense has played around him especially the o-line.  He's limited in mobility  (he can by time in the pocket) but hasn't been able to do that this year with the o-line play.

Just not sure where he really is.