NFL thread 2014 v. Frankford Yellow Jackets Lay the Pipe on the Dayton Triangles

[Dark Castle]

Aw yissssssss Rams! 

[jammindude]

HOW BOUT DEM RAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

Bosk...in the most lighthearted "friendly rival" kindof way.  I seriously want to know how you can defend the Niners after today.

Last 7 drives:

Punt
Missed FG
Fumble
Punt
Punt
Punt
Fumble on the goal line

[Skeever]

The Niners stink.

[jammindude]

Looks like The Raiders are the best team in the Bay Area....



















 

[Destiny Of Chaos]

The 49ers will improve as the season goes along. We knew going in that the NFC West was going to be a dog fight, and that the Rams would be able to get some wins.


Can't wait for the Ravens/Steelers game. Still a great rivalry even though some big names are no longer a part of it.

[Cool Chris]

Seahawks beat the worst team in the league, at home, by 6.

Arizona is 7-1.

Yikes.

[King Postwhore]

Nice win tonight.  Like to see that in the playoffs

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Last place records in the AFC Divisions, 1-8, 1-8. 0-8 and now the Ravens at 5-4. Testament to how good the AFC North has been. Ravens will recover and have a favorable schedule to do so. Bring on the Titans!

[black_biff_stadler]

Ben Roethlisberger has 862 yards, 12 TDs, and 0 INTs over his last 2 games. This may be the finest 2-game stretch in NFL history.

[FlyingBIZKIT]

It looked like the only Panther who really played up to potential was the rookie Kelvin Benjamin.

Falcons "fan" here, I guess.. but I turn on the Panthers games just to see Benjamin play, and he's had a solid year so far, proud of him.

I sadly can't get into NFL much, I just like watching FSU alumni (except Ponder lolol) and other players I loved watching in college.

[jammindude]

Seahawks beat the worst team in the league, at home, by 6.

Arizona is 7-1.

Yikes.

In spite of the record, I think the Skins are worse.   

[black_biff_stadler]

Nah. Bucs have to be the worst. They've fallen behind 56-0 to the Falcons and 38-0 to the Ravens. But, upon further research, they have lost two OT games and, aside from the two blowouts, all of their losses have been one-possession defeats. The Jags are probably the worst. Five 14+ point defeats.

[KevShmev]

If nothing else, what yesterday showed was why Bill Belichick is the best coach in football.  He had them ready to play on all levels, and it showed.  The Patriots are nearly impossible to beat when he has them ready to play like that, especially in Foxboro.

What in the world happened to the Chargers??

The end of that Rams/49ers game was comical.

The Steelers, of a sudden, have a passing attack almost as good as anybody's.

Arizona did what they were supposed to do: win the game.  I think we saw that Romo IS Dallas' MVP.

[Dream Team]

Ben Roethlisberger has 862 yards, 12 TDs, and 0 INTs over his last 2 games. This may be the finest 2-game stretch in NFL history.

I laughed out loud when I heard the Ravens' game plan was to "beat Ben up". They tried to break his jaw with a dirty hit, but the more they hit him the better he played. Ben eats pain like candy. He and Antonio Brown are firmly in the MVP discussion.

After the last 3 weeks, anyone who thinks Ben is in the Rivers-Eli-Flacco-Ryan bracket instead of the Brees-Peyton-Rodgers-Brady bracket is a freakin' lunatic.

[bosk1]

I seriously want to know how you can defend the Niners after today.

I would expect questions like this in YouTube comments or ESPN blogs.

[Dublagent66]

Arizona did what they were supposed to do: win the game.  I think we saw that Romo IS Dallas' MVP.

Disagree Kev.  Romo isn't the key for Dallas' success or failures for that matter.  The 6 game winning streak was mostly due to the much improved defense and a dominating O-Line that allowed Murray to run and provided the QB with protection.  The last 2 games, those areas were practically non-existent.  I highly doubt that Dallas would've won had Romo been able to play.

[jammindude]

I seriously want to know how you can defend the Niners after today.

I would expect questions like this in YouTube comments or ESPN blogs.

I hate text...all tone is lost.    You should know by now that I love you and respect you, and just like to playfully poke at you.  Maybe I'm not doing it right.   

Just remember to always picture me with a smile, a swagger, and a bro-hug.  Don't take it too seriously...

[Jaq]

I can't help but wonder.

You know how the undefeated Dolphins team always pops champagne when the last unbeaten falls each year? Are the 2008 Lions watching the Raiders, wondering when the last winless team will fall?

And if the Raiders win, what will the 2008 Lions drink in celebration? I vote Mad Dog 20/20 myself. 

[Dublagent66]

I seriously want to know how you can defend the Niners after today.

I would expect questions like this in YouTube comments or ESPN blogs.

I hate text...all tone is lost.    You should know by now that I love you and respect you, and just like to playfully poke at you.  Maybe I'm not doing it right.   

Just remember to always picture me with a smile, a swagger, and a bro-hug.  Don't take it too seriously...

Can't say that I blame him Jammindude.  His team just got beat at home against the division bottom feeders.  Same thing happened to my team last Monday Night.  I wasn't in the mood for even a remotely playful poke.   

[El Barto]

Arizona did what they were supposed to do: win the game.  I think we saw that Romo IS Dallas' MVP.

Disagree Kev.  Romo isn't the key for Dallas' success or failures for that matter.  The 6 game winning streak was mostly due to the much improved defense and a dominating O-Line that allowed Murray to run and provided the QB with protection.  The last 2 games, those areas were practically non-existent.  I highly doubt that Dallas would've won had Romo been able to play.

I think AZ probably still would have won but it'd be a completely different ballgame. For one thing Dallas was competitive for most of the game. It wouldn't have taken much of an improvement to swing the pendulum a bit. More importantly, AZ would have had to play a very different game. They had no reason to be scared of Weeden. With Romo in the game you've got two things to worry about. This leads to play action. With him back there it's entirely possible Murray runs all over them. Moreover, if Murray runs all over them the Cowboy's D has a completely different game to play. My hunch is that Dallas would have played better and AZ would have upped their game accordingly.

[bosk1]

I seriously want to know how you can defend the Niners after today.

I would expect questions like this in YouTube comments or ESPN blogs.

I hate text...all tone is lost.    You should know by now that I love you and respect you, and just like to playfully poke at you.  Maybe I'm not doing it right.   

Just remember to always picture me with a smile, a swagger, and a bro-hug.  Don't take it too seriously...

Can't say that I blame him Jammindude.  His team just got beat at home against the division bottom feeders.  Same thing happened to my team last Monday Night.  I wasn't in the mood for even a remotely playful poke.   

Their defense actually played well.  But the offense is struggling.  I know there is some unrest about them not running the ball enough, not only in this game, but in a few others, and them "not having an identity" as a result (i.e., they cannot decide what kind of offense they are).  But (1) they purposely built a passing game during the offseason, so of course they are going to use it; (2) when the running game flat-out isn't working, you have to try to pass.

The biggest issue is their offensive line, honestly.  It is such an underrated part of the offense, but the bottom line is, you can't have an effective passing or running game without a good o-line, and between losing their all-pro center in the offseason and the injuries this season, they o-line is weak right now, and the Rams exploited it all day.  The 49ers lost to an inferior team because they got unequivocally beat all day at the offensive line of scrimmage, and that trend is likely to continue if they do not find a way to fix the line. 

Equally disconcerting was the fact that they had two weeks to prepare given the bye, and they just looked flat.  Maybe that is just because of their o-line playing so poorly, but it's hard to tell.  If that is what it was, I am willing to give them a bit of a pass.  But if not, that is a bigger issue because that is a problem that runs a lot deeper.

Hard to say what will happen to them this season.  This is now the third game they have lost that they really should have won.  "Glass half empty" mentality says that they have big problems and are done.  "Glass half full" mentality says they are still a great team that has had some setbacks due to injuries and some other factors, and recognizes that they are still in the playoff hunt.  Really hard to tell where this season is going to go at this point.  It could go either way.

[KevShmev]

After the last 3 weeks, anyone who thinks Ben is in the Rivers-Eli-Flacco-Ryan bracket instead of the Brees-Peyton-Rodgers-Brady bracket is a freakin' lunatic.

I don't think Eli is in that bracket anymore.

To me, Ben still sits comfortably in the 5-7 range of QBs.  Not elite enough to be top tier with Peyton, Rodgers, etc., but still pretty damn great.  A great 3-week stretch doesn't change that.

Arizona did what they were supposed to do: win the game.  I think we saw that Romo IS Dallas' MVP.

Disagree Kev.  Romo isn't the key for Dallas' success or failures for that matter.  The 6 game winning streak was mostly due to the much improved defense and a dominating O-Line that allowed Murray to run and provided the QB with protection.  The last 2 games, those areas were practically non-existent.  I highly doubt that Dallas would've won had Romo been able to play.

Maybe not, but they would have had a much, much better chance.  And Dallas' D really isn't that much better on a per-play basis this year than they were last year; they are just not on the field nearly as much cause of how well the offense has eaten the clock by running the ball a lot.

Crazy fact: 11 of the 16 AFC teams are currently over .500 favorite.  And the Houston Texans, with J.J. Watt and Arian Foster, are NOT one of them.  That is nuts.

[adamack]

Ben Roethlisberger has 862 yards, 12 TDs, and 0 INTs over his last 2 games. This may be the finest 2-game stretch in NFL history.

I laughed out loud when I heard the Ravens' game plan was to "beat Ben up". They tried to break his jaw with a dirty hit, but the more they hit him the better he played. Ben eats pain like candy. He and Antonio Brown are firmly in the MVP discussion.

After the last 3 weeks, anyone who thinks Ben is in the Rivers-Eli-Flacco-Ryan bracket instead of the Brees-Peyton-Rodgers-Brady bracket is a freakin' lunatic.

Yess!

Are you a Steelers fan?

Anyone else aside from me a diehard Steelers fan?

It'd be nice if someone else was, as I live 15 minutes out of Philly so everyone around here are Eagles fans.

I do love the Eagles as well, but got into the Steelers when I was 7 and have never looked back.

May be going to New York next week to see them play the Jets.

Ben has been incredible. 3 weeks ago, my dad texted me "Ben should retire." It was a few minutes before they scored 3 touchdowns in 70-ish seconds against the Texans. From that point on, he has had arguably the best 2 weeks of any QB in NFL history, as Dream Team said.

Also notable: Ben jumped from 24th to 20th all time in passing TD's after yesterday's game. By the end of the year, it's possible he could be 11th, and be only a few away from Montana at 10th. Not saying he is in Montana's league (who I consider to be the GOAT unless Manning wins another SB or two). But still a cool fact.

[Dublagent66]

Arizona did what they were supposed to do: win the game.  I think we saw that Romo IS Dallas' MVP.

Disagree Kev.  Romo isn't the key for Dallas' success or failures for that matter.  The 6 game winning streak was mostly due to the much improved defense and a dominating O-Line that allowed Murray to run and provided the QB with protection.  The last 2 games, those areas were practically non-existent.  I highly doubt that Dallas would've won had Romo been able to play.

Maybe not, but they would have had a much, much better chance.  And Dallas' D really isn't that much better on a per-play basis this year than they were last year; they are just not on the field nearly as much cause of how well the offense has eaten the clock by running the ball a lot.

Crazy fact: 11 of the 16 AFC teams are currently over .500 favorite.  And the Houston Texans, with J.J. Watt and Arian Foster, are NOT one of them.  That is nuts.

I'd say that's a fair assessment.  Romo does give them a better chance, but that O-line has dialed it down a notch or two.  They were playing well enough to mask the other deficiencies.  Not really too sure about Weeden as a backup either.  O-line needs to rally.

On another note regarding Denver.  I think Peyton was too hard on himself last night in that press conference.  He may not have played as well as has been, but he played a very well coached team in Foxboro which is never an easy place to win.

[Tom Bombadil]

I'd say that's a fair assessment.  Romo does give them a better chance, but that O-line has dialed it down a notch or two.  They were playing well enough to mask the other deficiencies.  Not really too sure about Weeden as a backup either.  O-line needs to rally.

I didn't watch the game so I'm not entirely sure, but it seems like Romo being out allows defenses to key on stopping Murray, hence the O-Line has a lot more men in the box to deal with. Whereas before, if you stack the box to stop Murray, Romo just throws it to a single-covered Dez. So I think Weeden being in there affects not just the passing offense, but the rushing attack as well.

[KevShmev]

On another note regarding Denver.  I think Peyton was too hard on himself last night in that press conference.  He may not have played as well as has been, but he played a very well coached team in Foxboro which is never an easy place to win.

He did what great quarterbacks and leaders are supposed to do: take blame for the loss, instead of pointing fingers.

Personally, I didn't like that the Broncos came out not in ATTACK mode at all on offense.  The first two drives were all runs and dink passes.  Not until the 3rd drive did they attack at all, and boom, they scored a touchdown.

[hefdaddy42]

Not that it would have had a bearing on the outcome, but can someone explain to me why Peyton has to play AT New England every single year?

[TAC]

Not that it would have had a bearing on the outcome, but can someone explain to me why Peyton has to play AT New England every single year?

If both teams win their division this year, they will play at Denver next year.

For the longest time, it felt like the Pats were going to Denver every year.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=nwe&tm2=den&yr=all

In the late 90's there were a lot of games in Denver, but recently, NE has had more home games.

[KevShmev]

Not that it would have had a bearing on the outcome, but can someone explain to me why Peyton has to play AT New England every single year?

Facts:

-Of the 16 times Brady and Manning have gone head-to-head, 10 of them have been in New England, including 8 of the 12 in the regular season. 

-2007 is the last time the QB playing on the road won.

-2001 was when Indy and NE were still in the same division.  NE won both games that year, which was a down one for the Colts, who went 6-10.

-In the last four Brady/Manning regular season games, NE was the home team.

So yeah, I can't help but wonder what the head-to-head record would be if Manning had been lucky enough to have 2/3 of the regular season games between the two on his home field.

[TAC]

The worst part of this week every year is constantly hearing the Brady/Manning head to head jibba jabba.
The sports radio debates are nauseating. Honestly, I'd rather hear steroid talk.

[Jaq]

The worst part of this week every year is constantly hearing the Brady/Manning head to head jibba jabba.
The sports radio debates are nauseating. Honestly, I'd rather hear steroid talk.

I was amused last week by NFL Network running a "Top 10 Brady-Manning Games" show simply because, at the time, that just meant leaving five of them out. 

[King Postwhore]

I cannot understand how the Broncos play mos g of yh ed fames in N.E.  Dome funky formula that I'm to lazy to figure out.

[TAC]

I cannot understand how the Broncos play mos g of yh ed fames in N.E.  Dome funky formula that I'm to lazy to figure out.

I need a funky formula to figure out WTF you just wrote!

[bosk1]

Me too. 

[King Postwhore]

Goddamn I suck.  Smart phone and smart owner my ass.