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Title: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 01, 2018, 07:50:29 PM
There are a lot of bands who had maybe a handful of hits in the 80's, or maybe just one hit, who I keep reading about having more good stuff, so I have been slowly but surely over time trying to check more of it now.

All I knew by Duran Duran for 30+ years were their hits, but a few months back, I got into some songs from the first two albums I had never heard before, like The Chauffeur, Last Chance on the Stairway and Friends of Mine.

I recently checked out and really like Shuttered Room, the debut album by the Fixx, and just got Reach the Beach.  We'll see how good that one is as well.

I also want to dig into XTC at some point.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: DTA on April 01, 2018, 08:32:52 PM
The Cure is peak 80’s pop for me. The Head On The Door is a masterpiece and Disintegration is as deep and moody as it gets. So many incredible songs.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on April 01, 2018, 08:37:44 PM
Simple Minds had a lot of good stuff outside of their radio hits.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 01, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
I never dug much I heard by The Cure, so they would definitely not be high on my list of bands to dig deeper into.  Then again, the deeper stuff might grab me more than the hits did.

Simple Minds is another band I have heard good things about. *cues Joe* :P
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: NoseofNicko on April 01, 2018, 11:21:31 PM
I never dug much I heard by The Cure, so they would definitely not be high on my list of bands to dig deeper into.  Then again, the deeper stuff might grab me more than the hits did.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KZO40EUW9PA (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KZO40EUW9PA)
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Sacul on April 01, 2018, 11:51:28 PM
Talk Talk's The Colour of Spring is gorgeous, creative baroque pop, with many different instruments. Kate Bush's Hounds of Love is also excellent, very elaborate and varied music ranging from simple pop to Irish jigs to experimental tracks with growls to spoken word sections to half the album being conceptual, etc. Nine Inch Nails' Pretty Hate Machine also come out in the 80s, damn good industrial metal :metal
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: jammindude on April 02, 2018, 12:21:53 AM
+1 on The Cure.

I was never really a fan until I started digging. IMO, The Singles is a great place to start for their early material
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 02, 2018, 04:10:03 AM
I never dug much I heard by The Cure, so they would definitely not be high on my list of bands to dig deeper into.  Then again, the deeper stuff might grab me more than the hits did.

Simple Minds is another band I have heard good things about. *cues Joe* :P


I went to bed early last night. :lol

Simple Minds is a band I will follow.  I love the dynamics of their music.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 02, 2018, 06:48:58 AM
+1 on The Cure.

I was never really a fan until I started digging. IMO, The Singles is a great place to start for their early material
Yep. Disintegration, Pornography and Head on the Door are just :hefdaddy
Also, The Smiths. They didn't make a bad album IMO.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Stadler on April 02, 2018, 07:09:46 AM
The Cure is a weird band; the early stuff is hard to listen to, but I like the stuff around "Disintegration"; very lush, very much draws you into the mood.    Having said that, I got to see them live, and it was A-MAZING!   Over three hours, and even though I didn't know much of the set, it was absolutely mesmerizing.   Really good show. 

Of all the bands mentioned here, Duran Duran is really the one that I like best.  "Lonely In Your Nightmare" is perhaps my favorite song on a really, really strong record.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2018, 08:34:19 AM
Gowan's two solo albums (Strange Animal and Great Dirty World) are both gems.

Eurythmics is the only other band that comes to mind.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 02, 2018, 09:03:23 AM
XTC is another I've been delving into.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: LudwigVan on April 02, 2018, 09:29:34 AM
As many have already mentioned: The Cure, XTC and Simple Minds. 

Interestingly, these 3 bands all have elements of prog in their music. 

If you go back to The Cure's second album, Seventeen Seconds, it's practically an instrumental album.  I think it's fantastic. 
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 02, 2018, 09:36:33 AM
As many have already mentioned: The Cure, XTC and Simple Minds. 

Interestingly, these 3 bands all have elements of prog in their music. 

If you go back to The Cure's second album, Seventeen Seconds, it's practically an instrumental album.  I think it's fantastic.

I throw in The Fixx with the element of Prog as well.


Ultravox is another that I dug as a teen but I never kept up with them.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: LudwigVan on April 02, 2018, 09:42:26 AM
As many have already mentioned: The Cure, XTC and Simple Minds. 

Interestingly, these 3 bands all have elements of prog in their music. 

If you go back to The Cure's second album, Seventeen Seconds, it's practically an instrumental album.  I think it's fantastic.

I throw in The Fixx with the element of Prog as well.


Ultravox is another that I dug as a teen but I never kept up with them.

I'm not too familiar with these bands.  Guess I'm gonna have to do some digging myself!  :tup

And speaking about the prog side of all these bands, you just know that Steven Wilson listened to a ton of this stuff. 
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Stadler on April 02, 2018, 04:18:55 PM
Oh Vienna!!!!

I love that song.  Irredeemably.  And every time I hear "Dancing With Tears In My Eyes" I end up singing it for days on end.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 02, 2018, 07:02:12 PM
Talk Talk's The Colour of Spring is gorgeous, creative baroque pop, with many different instruments. 

I actually got that about a month ago.  Good record.  Life's What You Make It is a heckuva tune.

Simple Minds is a band I will follow.  I love the dynamics of their music.

I will need recommendations on them at some point.

 
If you go back to The Cure's second album, Seventeen Seconds, it's practically an instrumental album.  I think it's fantastic.

Hmmm, now that sounds intriguing.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 02, 2018, 07:07:35 PM
This thread needs to be renamed

The Release Your Inner Dork Thread.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: NoseofNicko on April 02, 2018, 07:33:43 PM
Familiar with Depeche Mode?
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 02, 2018, 07:43:07 PM
Honestly, all I know by Depeche Mode is Violator, which is really good, and a handful of their other hits.  I have always meant to check out more, but when it comes to synth pop, I always liked Pet Shop Boys more.  The Pet Shop Boys have a ton of good songs. 

And because Joe wanted my thoughts, after several listens of both Shuttered Room and Reach the Beach by the Fixx (managed to listen to both at work today on the ear buds when busy doing stuff), I like both. I can't say I love either, but I would say both are about half really good/great and half okay/pretty good stuff.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 02, 2018, 07:45:24 PM
Didn't the singer from The Fixx just pass away a few weeks ago?
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: ytserush on April 02, 2018, 08:17:33 PM
Only bands bands I'm into of those mentioned here so far are:

The Fixx
Talk Talk


I love The Fixx. (Just counted have 20 of their CDs) I've seen them live a few times too. and really like Talk Talk (only have 4 albums but plan to get the rest eventually.) Having lived through that period there's not a lot of music labeled "'80s music" that I'm really into, but there are some keepers.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: ytserush on April 02, 2018, 08:20:36 PM
Didn't the singer from The Fixx just pass away a few weeks ago?

Probably thinking about someone else. As far as I know Cy Curnin, is still among the living but I haven't checked the site for tour dates recently.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: RoeDent on April 03, 2018, 05:24:35 AM
Tears for Fears. I'm not familiar with The Hurting beyond Pale Shelter and Mad World, but Songs From the Big Chair and The Seeds of Love are both incredible albums. Listen, the closing track of Big Chair, is incredibly haunting.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 03, 2018, 05:33:40 AM
Didn't the singer from The Fixx just pass away a few weeks ago?

Probably thinking about someone else. As far as I know Cy Curnin, is still among the living but I haven't checked the site for tour dates recently.

I thought someone from the band recently passed away. Maybe I am thinking of someone else..
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: v_clortho on April 03, 2018, 09:01:59 AM
Any love for Adam and the Ants or Men at Work here?
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 03, 2018, 09:12:54 AM
The first two Men At Work records are very good pop records, I especially like Cargo. The third one is not as good but is still solid. But Down Under is seriously overplayed.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: soupytwist on April 03, 2018, 09:31:15 AM
A-Ha!
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 03, 2018, 05:03:33 PM
Tears for Fears. I'm not familiar with The Hurting beyond Pale Shelter and Mad World, but Songs From the Big Chair and The Seeds of Love are both incredible albums. Listen, the closing track of Big Chair, is incredibly haunting.

Check out Everybody Loves a Happy Ending, their comeback album from '04.  Tremendous record.  Love me some Tears for Fears. :coolio

I love The Fixx. (Just counted have 20 of their CDs) I've seen them live a few times too. and really like Talk Talk (only have 4 albums but plan to get the rest eventually.) Having lived through that period there's not a lot of music labeled "'80s music" that I'm really into, but there are some keepers.

The Fixx have that many albums?  Wow, I had no idea.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: DragonAttack on April 03, 2018, 06:22:21 PM
Kev, as to XTC:  Friends back in the day had some of their albums, and I still have the cassettes I recorded from 'English Settlement', 'Mummur' and 'Skylarking'.  I also have the vinyl 'Oranges & Lemons'.  From what I've read of your favorite artists, I think you'd enjoy those albums.  Their 'Upsy Daisy Assortment' (greatest hits) might be a good place to start.

Would be remiss in not mentioning The Fixx 'Deeper and Deeper'.  Very good live versions available on youtube.  A friend's band would play an 8-10 minute very guitar driven version back in the day.  Just listened to that one today.  Surprised the VHS tape still worked :D
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 03, 2018, 06:28:46 PM
Ironically, I got my hands on English Settlement last night and I am loving that so far.  The back half has a few songs I can do without, but the first half is money and I do like some of the later tracks like Fly on the Wall.  I listened to it a lot today at work on the ear buds and it just got better and better.  I love the sound of the bass guitar on this record.  This could be the start of a new band obsession for me...
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on April 03, 2018, 09:14:52 PM
As far as Simple Minds goes, I'd start with Real to Real Cacophony and work your way forward in their discography through Once Upon a Time. Every one of those albums is really good and quite varied. They haven't had much since that album that has been worth checking out except maybe Graffiti Soul or Big Music. Street Fighting Years is ok and their first album Life in a Day is decent, but a bit raw and unpolished.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 04, 2018, 06:21:32 PM
Okay, cool. I am likely to binge on XTC for a while now, but I have every intention on checking out plenty of the stuff being recommended here. :hat
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 05, 2018, 01:11:02 AM
I really really like Level 42, but only based on the first 5 1/2 albums. Those are some cool pop-funk records, my favorite is probably True Colours. The first two (Level 42 and The Early Tapes) have a lot of cool instrumental stuff and the bass is featured prominently. Standing In The Light and The Pursuit Of Accidents are also worth a listen. On World Machine only the first side is really good. From then on it's all downhill.

Ironically their biggest selling record (Running In The Family) is one I don't really like at all. They went full out pop on that one and lost the funk and that was what made them special imo.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Zantera on April 05, 2018, 05:02:38 AM
Okay, cool. I am likely to binge on XTC for a while now, but I have every intention on checking out plenty of the stuff being recommended here. :hat

XTC is a great choice! I would probably recommend starting with Skylarking - an album that has been compared to Pet Sounds and Abbey Road and I think it's their best. But they have several great albums so you can't really go that wrong. :)
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 05, 2018, 05:12:03 AM
I second level 42! Great call.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: LudwigVan on April 05, 2018, 09:07:54 AM
Okay, cool. I am likely to binge on XTC for a while now, but I have every intention on checking out plenty of the stuff being recommended here. :hat

XTC is a great choice! I would probably recommend starting with Skylarking - an album that has been compared to Pet Sounds and Abbey Road and I think it's their best. But they have several great albums so you can't really go that wrong. :)

Yep. There's a Beatles-esque quality and sensibility to almost all of XTC music.  To my ears, Andy Partridge was the Lennon to Colin Moulding's McCartney.

I'll also throw Psychedelic Furs into the mix of 80's bands.

Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 05, 2018, 10:56:22 AM
Kev, I like to throw into albums from a band that I really love. You should try Mr. Mister's Welcome To The Real World and their bold album after the huge commercial album, Go On...
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: romdrums on April 05, 2018, 10:57:33 AM
Kev, I like to throw into albums from a band that I really love. You should try Mr. Mister's Welcome To The Real World and their bold album after the huge commercial album, Go On.

I second this.  Both of those albums are great, but almost completely different from one another. 
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 05, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
Welcome To The Real World is a very good one, never heard Go On, should probably remedy that.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 05, 2018, 06:06:45 PM
I really really like Level 42, but only based on the first 5 1/2 albums. Those are some cool pop-funk records, my favorite is probably True Colours. The first two (Level 42 and The Early Tapes) have a lot of cool instrumental stuff and the bass is featured prominently. Standing In The Light and The Pursuit Of Accidents are also worth a listen. On World Machine only the first side is really good. From then on it's all downhill.

Ironically their biggest selling record (Running In The Family) is one I don't really like at all. They went full out pop on that one and lost the funk and that was what made them special imo.

Hmmm, I don't think I've ever heard a song by them other than Something About You, which is great, and features a killer bass line.

Okay, cool. I am likely to binge on XTC for a while now, but I have every intention on checking out plenty of the stuff being recommended here. :hat

XTC is a great choice! I would probably recommend starting with Skylarking - an album that has been compared to Pet Sounds and Abbey Road and I think it's their best. But they have several great albums so you can't really go that wrong. :)

Yep. There's a Beatles-esque quality and sensibility to almost all of XTC music.  To my ears, Andy Partridge was the Lennon to Colin Moulding's McCartney.

That is a bold statement.

I've checked out a little more XTC and I can tell this will be a very hit or miss band for me.  I love English Settlement, but Mummer seems a little spotty; some really good songs and some blah songs.  And I tried Drums and Wires, but that one annoyed the shit out of me and I gave up halfway through.  I think going for the later artier stuff is the way to go, rather than going backwards for the more punk stuff, since punk is not my bag.

Kev, I like to throw into albums from a band that I really love. You should try Mr. Mister's Welcome To The Real World and their bold album after the huge commercial album, Go On...

I actually tried that one a few months back and ended up with a few more songs to add to my collection (I have no problem buying individual songs from iTunes after checking the album out).  Broken Wings and Kyrie I already had (obviously), but I had forgotten about Is It Love, which I grabbed.  I also liked Black/White and Don't Slow Down enough to get those songs as well.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 05, 2018, 06:17:45 PM
Try streaming Go On...
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 05, 2018, 06:26:54 PM
I'll add it to the pile. :lol :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 05, 2018, 06:50:37 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2018, 06:56:16 PM
Okay, cool. I am likely to binge on XTC for a while now, but I have every intention on checking out plenty of the stuff being recommended here. :hat

XTC is a great choice! I would probably recommend starting with Skylarking - an album that has been compared to Pet Sounds and Abbey Road and I think it's their best. But they have several great albums so you can't really go that wrong. :)

Yep. There's a Beatles-esque quality and sensibility to almost all of XTC music.  To my ears, Andy Partridge was the Lennon to Colin Moulding's McCartney.

OK, LV. Now you're just showing off. :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Setlist Scotty on April 05, 2018, 10:08:39 PM
The Cure is a weird band; the early stuff is hard to listen to, but I like the stuff around "Disintegration"; very lush, very much draws you into the mood.    Having said that, I got to see them live, and it was A-MAZING!   Over three hours, and even though I didn't know much of the set, it was absolutely mesmerizing.   Really good show. 
Totally agree with this. Never really checked out the stuff before Disintegration, and I couldn't get into the albums following Blood Flowers, but I love everything in between. And yes, seeing The Cure live is an amazing experience. Would love to see them again.
 
 
Honestly, all I know by Depeche Mode is Violator, which is really good, and a handful of their other hits.  I have always meant to check out more, but when it comes to synth pop, I always liked Pet Shop Boys more.  The Pet Shop Boys have a ton of good songs. 
DM's older stuff is much lighter and poppier, despite their use of unusual sounds in a lot of their music. After Violator, they went into a darker direction with more of a focus on guitars and real drums, altho they still use a lot of keyboards. So if you're more into poppy stuff, work your way backwards starting with Music for the Masses or their live album from that tour, 101, which is a great representation of their early catalog. If you like the darker sound, start with Songs of Faith and Devotion and work your way forward. If you were to listen to their whole catalog, you can definitely hear a progression of style, not unlike the way Rush's sound changed in an evolutionary way from album to album.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: LudwigVan on April 06, 2018, 07:11:51 AM
Okay, cool. I am likely to binge on XTC for a while now, but I have every intention on checking out plenty of the stuff being recommended here. :hat

XTC is a great choice! I would probably recommend starting with Skylarking - an album that has been compared to Pet Sounds and Abbey Road and I think it's their best. But they have several great albums so you can't really go that wrong. :)

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Yep. There's a Beatles-esque quality and sensibility to almost all of XTC music.  To my ears, Andy Partridge was the Lennon to Colin Moulding's McCartney.



OK, LV. Now you're just showing off. :lol

 :biggrin: My inner dork must be coming out. 

What are you doing in this thread?  Slow day at Official hard rock/classic metal memorabilia?    :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 06, 2018, 07:25:00 AM
Tim is like a high school bully of music.  Remember Tim, Buff, gets his from McFly :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 06, 2018, 04:10:46 PM

Yep. There's a Beatles-esque quality and sensibility to almost all of XTC music.  To my ears, Andy Partridge was the Lennon to Colin Moulding's McCartney.

OK, LV. Now you're just showing off. :lol

 :biggrin: My inner dork must be coming out. 

What are you doing in this thread?  Slow day at Official hard rock/classic metal memorabilia?    :lol


Every time I see this thread updated, I see that some of my favorite posters are in here, yet I click to reply and no words come out.  :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 06, 2018, 04:12:10 PM
It's my favorite TAC in this thread. Muted TAC. :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Peter Mc on April 06, 2018, 04:57:46 PM
In terms of 80’s rock bands, the band Europe are generally only known for that one song (we all know the one!). They actually have loads of awesome songs in their catalogue.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 06, 2018, 05:18:52 PM
The Final Countdown wasn't even their biggest hit here in America; Carrie, from the same album, was.  Rock the Night, Cherokee and Superstitious were all minor hits as well.  MTV played the living crap out of all five of those videos, as well as Let the Good Times Rock and Open Your Heart (which I am surprised didn't chart well).  Out of This World is still a good disc from start to finish.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Stadler on April 07, 2018, 07:48:25 PM
The Final Countdown wasn't even their biggest hit here in America; Carrie, from the same album, was.  Rock the Night, Cherokee and Superstitious were all minor hits as well.  MTV played the living crap out of all five of those videos, as well as Let the Good Times Rock and Open Your Heart (which I am surprised didn't chart well).  Out of This World is still a good disc from start to finish.


Technically, you're sort of partially right (Carrie hit 3 on the Billboard 100, and TFC hit 8 but TFC outranked C on the Billboard Album Rock Tracks list, 18 to 35), but my brother had the album back then, and to this day I couldn't sing you the chorus to any of those other songs, including Carrie.   
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 07, 2018, 07:49:24 PM
Somehow the Dork Thread turned into the Wuss Thread right before our very eyes.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: jammindude on April 07, 2018, 07:50:47 PM
The Final Countdown wasn't even their biggest hit here in America; Carrie, from the same album, was.  Rock the Night, Cherokee and Superstitious were all minor hits as well.  MTV played the living crap out of all five of those videos, as well as Let the Good Times Rock and Open Your Heart (which I am surprised didn't chart well).  Out of This World is still a good disc from start to finish.


Technically, you're sort of partially right (Carrie hit 3 on the Billboard 100, and TFC hit 8 but TFC outranked C on the Billboard Album Rock Tracks list, 18 to 35), but my brother had the album back then, and to this day I couldn't sing you the chorus to any of those other songs, including Carrie.   

Stadler....I had your back on this one....until you said you couldn't sing the chorus to Carrie.   Are you kidding me right now?
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Stadler on April 07, 2018, 07:53:39 PM
The Final Countdown wasn't even their biggest hit here in America; Carrie, from the same album, was.  Rock the Night, Cherokee and Superstitious were all minor hits as well.  MTV played the living crap out of all five of those videos, as well as Let the Good Times Rock and Open Your Heart (which I am surprised didn't chart well).  Out of This World is still a good disc from start to finish.


Technically, you're sort of partially right (Carrie hit 3 on the Billboard 100, and TFC hit 8 but TFC outranked C on the Billboard Album Rock Tracks list, 18 to 35), but my brother had the album back then, and to this day I couldn't sing you the chorus to any of those other songs, including Carrie.   

Stadler....I had your back on this one....until you said you couldn't sing the chorus to Carrie.   Are you kidding me right now?

I mean, I probably could sing it, I have a pretty good voice, but I don't know it, so... no, not kidding you right now.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: jammindude on April 07, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
Oh....if it's just a crappy voice thing, then that's forgivable.  I thought you were saying you couldn't even remember it.  :rollin
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Stadler on April 07, 2018, 08:04:47 PM
Oh....if it's just a crappy voice thing, then that's forgivable.  I thought you were saying you couldn't even remember it.  :rollin

No, no, I think you misunderstand; not only do I not remember it, I don't think I EVER knew it. 
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 07, 2018, 08:09:22 PM
Da Fuk Stadler?


Can't you see it in my eyes.....
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 07, 2018, 08:48:09 PM
I think the issue I take is that some (no one here) love revisionist history, where a band like Europe is remembered for only one song and then get lumped into the one-hit wonder category, when they had a number of hits; it's just that only the one has remained in the mainstream.

Same thing has happened with Cutting Crew.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 07, 2018, 09:01:07 PM
I've been in love before Kev.

One for the mockingbird as well.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 07, 2018, 09:05:11 PM
Yep.

I don't think One for the Mockingbird made much of a dent, even though MTV played the video a lot (with bastards edited to doubters in the first verse), but I've Been in Love Before was a top 10 hit, IIRC.

I still like the whole album, Broadcast, a lot.  The opener, Any Colour, is a total kick ass rocker. :metal
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 07, 2018, 09:10:48 PM
 my favorite song on that album is "It Shouldn't Take Too Long".
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Post by: KevShmev on April 07, 2018, 09:12:33 PM
I like them all, but that is a good one. Life in a Dangerous Time is definitely a standout.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 07, 2018, 09:15:11 PM
I used to take 32 CDs with me to work all the time. I had a boombox and I worked unloading trailers and loading the product in an elevator up to the other floors. my CDs fell in between the battery and I didn't catch it and I ruining my original copy of that CD. I got a remaster of it and I hate that they have the single version of I Just Died In Your Arms and not the extended ending.
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Post by: KevShmev on April 07, 2018, 09:28:28 PM
That's weird. I didn't think that song was edited at all when it was a single. My version is 4:41.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on April 07, 2018, 11:41:23 PM
Speaking of 80s pop/rock, Cutting Crew definitely belongs there, the first two records were stellar and the third had some good tracks as well.

Saw them live back in the day and they were killer. Their guitar player later played with Robert Plant on the Fate Of Nations record and tour. Sadly he died of cancer some years ago.

The band had two more records (2005 and 2015) but I've given them only casual listens and they couldn't drag me in.
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Post by: erwinrafael on April 08, 2018, 12:04:37 AM
When I think of 80s pop, the first thing that comes to mind is Australia's "gift" to the Philippines: Air Supply. To this day, their 80s songs still play on the radio.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 08, 2018, 05:48:57 AM
That's weird. I didn't think that song was edited at all when it was a single. My version is 4:41.


This is the original recording with the keyboard ending.  I was pisses the remaster had the single version.  It's like 8 seconds!!

https://youtu.be/Ss0tSqwtS1A
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2018, 07:47:21 AM
Somehow the Dork Thread turned into the Wuss Thread right before our very eyes.

And yet here you are.
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Post by: KevShmev on April 08, 2018, 08:39:51 AM
Speaking of 80s pop/rock, Cutting Crew definitely belongs there, the first two records were stellar and the third had some good tracks as well.


I remember getting the 2nd one on cassette and not caring for it all.  You are a rare person who has talked up that record. ;)

That's weird. I didn't think that song was edited at all when it was a single. My version is 4:41.


This is the original recording with the keyboard ending.  I was pisses the remaster had the single version.  It's like 8 seconds!!

https://youtu.be/Ss0tSqwtS1A

Hmmm, I just listened and I must have the same version as you; it just fades out at the end.  That is strange for them to have changed it.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 08, 2018, 08:59:09 AM
I need to get that version again.
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Post by: KevShmev on April 08, 2018, 09:02:00 AM
Not sure where you'd find it.  I got the CD a long time ago, so it is not like that is a recent remaster that changed it or anything.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 08, 2018, 09:04:55 AM
I know but I can put the word out and somebody can email that one song to me.
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Post by: TAC on April 08, 2018, 03:19:59 PM
OK...TAC-Dork incoming......



So a song I hear at work a lot always makes me stop dead in my tracks. It's Chris DeBurgh's Lady In Red. This song totally transports me back to the 80's. It doesn't have any special meaning or memory with any person, but it totally moves me.
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 08, 2018, 03:37:28 PM
I saw DeBurg opening for Asia in 83.  It was before that song.  The album he was touring for had "Don't Pay The Ferryman"
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Post by: KevShmev on April 08, 2018, 04:39:59 PM
Is there anyone you didn't see in the 80's?  :lol :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 08, 2018, 04:53:03 PM
Queen. :'(

My parents said I was too young to go to a concert.
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Post by: KevShmev on April 08, 2018, 04:57:08 PM
Oh man.  :facepalm:

I think I have told the story before, but a friend of mine (who is like 53 now) had a chance to see them on their last American tour (1981, I think), but didn't go and said to his friends, "I'll see them next time,"  And they never came back.  D'oh!!!!
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Post by: TAC on April 08, 2018, 05:00:27 PM
Queen. :'(

My parents said I was too young to go to a concert.

Joe, what was your first concert?
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 08, 2018, 05:12:35 PM
Kiss 79. 

Then Asia 83
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Post by: KevShmev on April 08, 2018, 05:17:46 PM
That is a shameful first concert.

And no, I will not apologize for that. :P
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Post by: TAC on April 08, 2018, 05:27:07 PM
...and second concert! ;D

Mine:

June 25, 1983
Cape Cod Coliseum

Del Leppard
Krokus
Gary Moore

Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 08, 2018, 05:27:52 PM
11 year old Joe mocks the hell out of you Kev.  Joe's dad agrees with you Kev. :lol
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Post by: KevShmev on April 08, 2018, 05:30:31 PM
Joe's dad seems like a smart fella. :tup :tup

My first concert: Michael Penn in 1990. Still like his March CD a lot.

Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on April 08, 2018, 05:32:12 PM
I love that album.
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Post by: Stadler on April 08, 2018, 11:01:53 PM
Joe's dad seems like a smart fella. :tup :tup

My first concert: Michael Penn in 1990. Still like his March CD a lot.

With that first concert, you've really got no business mocking someone else's first concert, Kiss or otherwise.  ;).  I'm happy with my first, but I'd take Kiss in '79 and Asia in '83 in a heartbeat. 

Mine was Judas Priest (with Iron Maiden opening) on the Screaming for Vengeance tour.  I did see "Sha Na Na" when I was a kid, but it was a family thing, and I think I saw Beatlemania as a school trip, but Priest/Maiden was the first without any parental accompaniment.

First five:
1. Priest/Maiden, Oct. 1982
2. Billy Squier/Def Leppard, Mar. 1983
3. Maiden/Fastway/Coney Hatch, Aug. 1983
4. Yes, Feb. 1984
5. Kiss/Accept, Mar. 1984

(Setlist.fm is your friend.)

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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on April 09, 2018, 12:28:19 AM
Ooh first concert?

Rush - November 1996
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Post by: Kwyjibo on April 09, 2018, 02:17:27 AM
First concert: T'Pau - 1987 or 1988, another 80s group. The Bridge Of Spies record is great, the second one good, the third one forgettable. And they really rocked live, much more than on record. And I had a little crush on Carol Decker.  :blush :D
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Post by: bl5150 on April 09, 2018, 03:00:32 AM
First concert =  Bon Jovi - New Jersey tour 1989
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Post by: KevShmev on April 09, 2018, 06:43:37 PM
Back to digging into the 80's, I am still listening to a lot of XTC.

Skylarking & Apples and Oranges are both really good pop records, with the former being the stronger, for sure.

Black Sea sounds really good as well.  I love how that one sounds, similar to English Settlement, where everything is crystal clear, with the bass and drums really kicking your ass, but never overpowering everything.
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on April 09, 2018, 06:45:13 PM
 I should really give XTC a shot. I hear about them influencing a lot of music that I like. Maybe after my roulette...
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Post by: TAC on April 09, 2018, 06:46:28 PM
First five:
1. Priest/Maiden, Oct. 1982
2. Billy Squier/Def Leppard, Mar. 1983
3. Maiden/Fastway/Coney Hatch, Aug. 1983
4. Yes, Feb. 1984
5. Kiss/Accept, Mar. 1984

My First 5:

1983-6/25..Def Leppard, Krokus, Gary Moore….Cape Cod Coliseum
1983-8/27..Iron Maiden, Fastway, Coney Hatch…Cape Cod Coliseum
1984-3/18..Van Halen, Autograph..Providence Civic Center
1984-6/7…Scorpions, Bon Jovi.. Providence Civic Center
1984-8/20..Dio, Twisted Sister.. Providence Civic Center
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 09, 2018, 06:52:21 PM
I should really give XTC a shot. I hear about them influencing a lot of music that I like. Maybe after my roulette...

They were on my "bands to check out" list for years, and I am glad I finally got around to it.   What's really cool is they seem like a blend of many different sounds and styles, from pop rock to punk to psychedelia to new wave to flat-out rock, so you get some different stuff with not only every album, but with every song. 
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Post by: Sacul on April 09, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
I guess I should give them another chance, tried listening to Skylarking and found it awful, mostly those synths  :lol . But I've been slowly getting into 80s music so I could try.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 09, 2018, 07:41:53 PM
First five:
1. Priest/Maiden, Oct. 1982
2. Billy Squier/Def Leppard, Mar. 1983
3. Maiden/Fastway/Coney Hatch, Aug. 1983
4. Yes, Feb. 1984
5. Kiss/Accept, Mar. 1984

My First 5:

1983-6/25..Def Leppard, Krokus, Gary Moore….Cape Cod Coliseum
1983-8/27..Iron Maiden, Fastway, Coney Hatch…Cape Cod Coliseum
1984-3/18..Van Halen, Autograph..Providence Civic Center
1984-6/7…Scorpions, Bon Jovi.. Providence Civic Center
1984-8/20..Dio, Twisted Sister.. Providence Civic Center

Autograph

:metal    :metal    :metal    :metal    :metal    :metal :metal   :metal :metal
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 09, 2018, 07:43:41 PM
:lol

They were so bad.
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Post by: KevShmev on April 09, 2018, 07:51:27 PM
I guess I should give them another chance, tried listening to Skylarking and found it awful, mostly those synths  :lol . But I've been slowly getting into 80s music so I could try.

I don't think they sound that 80's, in the sense where you hear them and think, "80's band," like you do for a lot of other bands.

I would recommend English Settlement.  It is long - 15 songs and was a double album (back when an album that long was a double) - but the first half of it should suck you right in.  Colin Moulding's fretless bass playing is something to behold on that record.
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Post by: Stadler on April 10, 2018, 08:40:25 AM
First five:
1. Priest/Maiden, Oct. 1982
2. Billy Squier/Def Leppard, Mar. 1983
3. Maiden/Fastway/Coney Hatch, Aug. 1983
4. Yes, Feb. 1984
5. Kiss/Accept, Mar. 1984

My First 5:

1983-6/25..Def Leppard, Krokus, Gary Moore….Cape Cod Coliseum
1983-8/27..Iron Maiden, Fastway, Coney Hatch…Cape Cod Coliseum
1984-3/18..Van Halen, Autograph..Providence Civic Center
1984-6/7…Scorpions, Bon Jovi.. Providence Civic Center
1984-8/20..Dio, Twisted Sister.. Providence Civic Center

I saw both the Scorpions show and Dio show on those tours.  I LOVED Twisted Sister live; they were so much better than the records.  They tore it up in New Haven, literally; I was in the first section after the floor (so i was looking straight across the floor seats to the stage) and there was a fight on the floor.  All I could see for half the show was the silhouettes of chairs being thrown back and forth.   My dad's boss's daughter was down there and got a chair to the face, was all black and blue for a week according to him.
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Post by: v_clortho on April 10, 2018, 09:09:49 AM
I saw Twisted Sister back on the Come out and Play tour (Dokken and Tarzen opening). They were really good. Easily one of the best live bands I've ever seen. Although coming on after Dokken and Tarzen might have something to do with that.  ;D
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Post by: TAC on April 10, 2018, 01:22:01 PM
I saw Twisted Sister back on the Come out and Play tour (Dokken and Tarzen opening). They were really good. Easily one of the best live bands I've ever seen. Although coming on after Dokken and Tarzen might have something to do with that.  ;D

Tarzen?? Damn, where did you see them?

I had their album, only because it featured Danny Peyronell from UFO.

Pretty much the last band I'd ever think I'd see mentioned here.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: v_clortho on April 10, 2018, 01:52:06 PM
I saw Twisted Sister back on the Come out and Play tour (Dokken and Tarzen opening). They were really good. Easily one of the best live bands I've ever seen. Although coming on after Dokken and Tarzen might have something to do with that.  ;D

Tarzen?? Damn, where did you see them?

I had their album, only because it featured Danny Peyronell from UFO.

Pretty much the last band I'd ever think I'd see mentioned here.

Saw them at the Met Center in Bloomington MN. I'd never heard of them before the show and only remember them because of the silly name. (although in retrospect if I remember the name after this long it must have some redeeming qualities)
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Post by: ytserush on April 16, 2018, 06:55:54 PM
Any love for Adam and the Ants or Men at Work here?

I have the first two Men At Work records, a compilation, and Live In Brazil. Been kind of looking for the third record off and on for a long time.  Colin Hay has a solo career that's almost as big as Men At Work but I've never been inclined to see him.

Adam and The Ants are my wife's department. I've seen them a few times and I think she's go all of the studio records. He's actually going back on the road soon and we discussed seeing him, but we're keeping our powder dry for bands we'd rather see more.
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Post by: ytserush on April 16, 2018, 07:02:47 PM
I saw DeBurg opening for Asia in 83.  It was before that song.  The album he was touring for had "Don't Pay The Ferryman"

Not that I know a lot about what this guy's done, but that's my favorite Chris Deburgh song of all time. That might of course be because it's the only one I know. Lost track of him after that video. Can't imagine I'd find anything to top it though even if I'm not all that interested to go looking.
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Post by: ytserush on April 16, 2018, 07:06:05 PM
First Concert -- Marillion/Rush March 31 1986 Meadowlands Arena

Second Concert - Marillion/Rush April 1, 1986 Meadowlands Arena
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on April 16, 2018, 10:53:07 PM
The Church?
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Post by: LudwigVan on April 22, 2018, 02:28:10 PM
The Cure’s Pornography - bought this album when it first came out over 35 years ago. Masterful. So damn trippy and a bit unsettling. It’s the album where they just teetered on the edge (of what, I don’t know) before taking a step back to a more grounded pop style (which I love too).
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Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2018, 07:26:25 PM
I never was overly fond of The Cure's hits back in the day, but I have read enough good stuff about their material that they are definitely on my list of bands to check out soon.  :tup :tup
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Post by: TAC on April 22, 2018, 07:31:26 PM
They're on my list of bands to check out never.  :tup :tup ;D ;D
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2018, 07:34:20 PM
(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/8/1/2/38121.jpg)
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2018, 07:36:52 PM
Hah..You cannot hurt me with Dokken. :lol



So overrated.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2018, 07:41:04 PM
Overrated by whom??  Who rates them?

Disclaimer: I like a handful of their songs.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2018, 07:44:29 PM
Overrated by whom??  Who rates them?

 :lol

I'm going to bed soon. If you want to start with me, you have to do it earlier! :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2018, 07:50:30 PM
I'm going to bed soon. If you want to start with me, you have to do it earlier! :lol

Is that what your wife tells you? :P
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2018, 07:54:13 PM
I'm going to bed soon. If you want to start with me, you have to do it earlier! :lol

Is that what your wife tells you? :P

No, that's actually what I tell her! :lol
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Post by: Stadler on April 22, 2018, 08:51:12 PM
Hah..You cannot hurt me with Dokken. :lol



So overrated.

I'm with you on that.  I've heard better singers than Don Dokken at Friday Night Karaoke at the Locust Bar in Philly. 
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on May 20, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
Looks like I need to get into Europe a little deeper.  I only know the Out of This World and Final Countdown albums. Gimme songs I need to check out. P&TY. :coolio
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 21, 2018, 06:19:38 AM
I know their newer albums are ass kicking. I don't own them but I've streamed them.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 21, 2018, 07:41:17 AM
Looks like I need to get into Europe a little deeper.  I only know the Out of This World and Final Countdown albums. Gimme songs I need to check out. P&TY. :coolio

Prisoner's in Paradise (the song).  From that album, I'll also call out Halfway to Heaven, Seventh Sign, Til My Heart Beats Down Your Door, and Girl From Lebanon.

2000s era ... I'll have to get back to you on it.  It's been a while since I spun anything there.
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Post by: KevShmev on May 21, 2018, 05:51:55 PM
Okay, sounds good. That gives me some specific songs to tackle. :tup :tup
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Post by: gborland on May 22, 2018, 02:19:37 AM
Check out Everybody Loves a Happy Ending, their comeback album from '04.  Tremendous record.  Love me some Tears for Fears. :coolio

Featuring our very own Nick D'Virgilio...
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on May 22, 2018, 05:54:08 AM
Check out Everybody Loves a Happy Ending, their comeback album from '04.  Tremendous record.  Love me some Tears for Fears. :coolio

Featuring our very own Nick D'Virgilio...

I don't think NDV actually played on the album.  I know he toured with them on the subsequent tour, but he wasn't on the album, IIRC.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on May 26, 2018, 07:16:49 AM
Looks like I need to get into Europe a little deeper.  I only know the Out of This World and Final Countdown albums. Gimme songs I need to check out. P&TY. :coolio

Prisoner's in Paradise (the song).  From that album, I'll also call out Halfway to Heaven, Seventh Sign, Til My Heart Beats Down Your Door, and Girl From Lebanon.
 

I have to admit that most of these songs were kind of meh to me.  Halfway to Heaven was the one I liked enough to spend a dollar and change on at iTunes to add to my mp3 collection.  :tup :tup
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2018, 07:34:06 AM
Just so long as you're fine with being wrong on the matter, it's all good.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on May 26, 2018, 08:18:27 AM
Just so long as you're fine with being wrong on the matter, it's all good.

(https://i.imgur.com/v0DNw7N.jpg)
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on May 26, 2018, 08:28:36 AM
For a second,  I thought Chad was responding to Tim.  :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on July 22, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Update...

Ironically, I got my hands on English Settlement last night and I am loving that so far.  The back half has a few songs I can do without, but the first half is money and I do like some of the later tracks like Fly on the Wall.  I listened to it a lot today at work on the ear buds and it just got better and better.  I love the sound of the bass guitar on this record.  This could be the start of a new band obsession for me...

3 1/2 months later, I am still listening to XTC probably 50-60% of the time I have any music playing. Tremendous band.

And I was slightly off below when I said:


I've checked out a little more XTC and I can tell this will be a very hit or miss band for me.  I love English Settlement, but Mummer seems a little spotty; some really good songs and some blah songs.  And I tried Drums and Wires, but that one annoyed the shit out of me and I gave up halfway through.  I think going for the later artier stuff is the way to go, rather than going backwards for the more punk stuff, since punk is not my bag.


The only misses are the first three albums, which have a collective 6-7 songs I have any use for.  After that:

Black Sea - outstanding!
English Settlement - magnificent!
Mummer - very good
The Big Express - inconsistent, but still good
25 O'Clock - trippy and awesome!
Skylarking - a masterpiece
Psonic Psunsport - tremendous!
Oranges and Lemons - very good
Nonsuch - very good
Apple Venus, Part 1 - outstanding!
Wasp Star - inconsistent, but still pretty good

That is 9 major keepers out of 14.  And they have quite a few great b-sides I have been digging into as well.  I will be buying the Steven Wilson 5.1 releases of their work very soon.

The plan next is to try The Smiths or The Cure... :coolio
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on September 28, 2018, 07:11:26 PM
5 1/2 months later, still listening to XTC a crap load.  My list of favorite bands is (really, really) long, but they have solidified a spot on it.

That said, it is now time to dig into some of the other bands recommended in this thread.  The Cure, The Smiths, Depeche Mode and Simple Minds seem to get mentioned a lot.  Give me one album by each and I will work on it.

Note: I already have Violator by Depeche Mode.
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 28, 2018, 07:27:15 PM
For Simple Minds,  Sparkle in the Rain.
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Post by: TAC on September 28, 2018, 07:34:55 PM
 :corn
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on September 28, 2018, 07:41:56 PM
For Simple Minds,  Sparkle in the Rain.
New Gold Dream
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on September 28, 2018, 07:55:29 PM
For Simple Minds,  Sparkle in the Rain.
New Gold Dream

That would be a great follow up.
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Post by: Indiscipline on September 29, 2018, 01:49:19 AM
For The Smiths, The Queen Is Dead.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on September 29, 2018, 09:13:55 AM
For The Smiths, The Queen Is Dead.

Noted.

For Simple Minds,  Sparkle in the Rain.

I listened to about half and it sounded pretty good, but it didn't want to make me want to keep going.  They might end up being one of those 80's bands where I am happy just having the handful of hits.  I tried.  :biggrin:
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Post by: Stadler on September 29, 2018, 09:26:48 AM
For Simple Minds, the two mentioned or "Once Upon A Time" but full disclosure, it's been YEARS since I heard them and Simple Minds was never an A-list band for me (but "Don't You Forget About Me" was the first 7" single I bought after I got my new stereo in high school).

The Smiths... the single "How Soon Is Now?"   It's fairly different from most of the band's singles, and didn't appear on a studio record, just as a single and a compilation, but it'll allow you to move on to other, better bands.  ;).  (Not a huge fan of the Smiths; I grudgingly admire Morrissey, and like Johnny Marr, but most of their music is a little obvious for me, and without the fun and energy of other, simple music from the time).
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on September 29, 2018, 11:47:45 AM
For Simple Minds,  Sparkle in the Rain.

I listened to about half and it sounded pretty good, but it didn't want to make me want to keep going.  They might end up being one of those 80's bands where I am happy just having the handful of hits.  I tried.  :biggrin:
Their really good stuff is all before that album. That album is still good, just not as good as the 3 albums that came before it.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: DTA on September 30, 2018, 05:45:55 AM
[quote author=KevShmev link=topic=52215.msg2477703#msg2477703 date=153818348
5 1/2 months later, still listening to XTC a crap load.  My list of favorite bands is (really, really) long, but they have solidified a spot on it.

That said, it is now time to dig into some of the other bands recommended in this thread.  The Cure, The Smiths, Depeche Mode and Simple Minds seem to get mentioned a lot.  Give me one album by each and I will work on it.

Note: I already have Violator by Depeche Mode.
[/quote]

The Cure has a few different sounding "eras" which makes it tough to pinpoint a single album that encompasses their sound. Disintegration is probably their "masterpiece", but The Head On The Door is a great representation of their poppier sound and has some of their catchiest songs so I'd pick that one.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: ytserush on September 30, 2018, 02:25:40 PM
Just finished listening to Phantoms by The Fixx to help exercise "Less Cities Move Moving People" out of my head and I forgot how cold and sterile that album sounds.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Zantera on October 01, 2018, 06:14:12 AM
The Cure - Disintegration
The Smiths - Meat is Murder

Both bands have made some really amazing albums though, several good starting points ;)
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: bosk1 on October 05, 2018, 08:47:48 AM
We need some love for Siouxsie and the Banshees in this thread.  I got into them fairly late in the game.  Saw them live at the Greek Theater in Berkeley touring for Through the Looking Glass (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking_Glass_(Siouxsie_and_the_Banshees_album)).  They were incredible live.  I went out and bought the album, and then started working my way through the back catalog.  Through the Looking Glass remains my favorite by far.  At the time, I didn't realize it was a covers album, probably because the originals are so obscure, and their versions are so different.  This is an album that totally takes me back to the '80s.

Full album listen-through:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emGxnJoQfbs&list=PLydOTJPq2CEE-T_6z4i-swbGV7_f8A26v
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on July 06, 2019, 09:28:01 AM
Update:

I tackled Disintegration by The Cure a while back. I liked the first song a lot, and a few others were good, but as a whole, I got bored after a while. I might need something more accessible with them.

Can't remember if INXS was recommended by anyone in this thread, but I am digging into them a bit more now. Kick has been a longtime favorite of mine, and I've always known a few of their other hits, but not much else. Digging some of these songs I have never heard before. 

Also, INB4 Joe tells me he saw INXS x-number of times back in the day... :lol :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on July 06, 2019, 10:34:22 AM
 :lol


Well STRIKE OUT! 

I never saw them live!
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on July 06, 2019, 01:34:58 PM
 :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 06, 2019, 03:20:34 PM
I tackled Disintegration by The Cure a while back. I liked the first song a lot, and a few others were good, but as a whole, I got bored after a while. I might need something more accessible with them.
Not really familiar with their pre-Disintegration catalog, but the following album, Wish, might be more your speed.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on July 06, 2019, 09:15:55 PM

Not really familiar with their pre-Disintegration catalog, but the following album, Wish, might be more your speed.

I'll add it to the list (that is getting longer by the day :lol).
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 06, 2019, 11:04:39 PM

Not really familiar with their pre-Disintegration catalog, but the following album, Wish, might be more your speed.

I'll add it to the list (that is getting longer by the day :lol).
Ya know, the more I think about it, I wonder if Wish would be a good choice given what you said. It's not as much doom-n-gloom as Disintegration, but there's still a good amount there. Since you said you're looking for more accessible songs and that you got bored, maybe Wild Mood Swings (which came after Wish) would be a better choice. The songs are shorter and there's a much wider variety of styles/sounds (hence the album title). That said, it's not the most highly favored album in the band's catalog by fans, but then again, The Cure's never been known as a "happy" band.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: SwedishGoose on July 07, 2019, 03:30:21 AM
Some good 80-ties music already mentioned but still no one has mentioned Mr Mister (Broken Wings & Kyrie are the biggest hits).

Mr Mister was where Pat Mastellotto started his career. He is now one of the 3 King Crimson drummers.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2019, 05:46:18 AM
Some good 80-ties music already mentioned but still no one has mentioned Mr Mister (Broken Wings & Kyrie are the biggest hits).

Mr Mister was where Pat Mastellotto started his career. He is now one of the 3 King Crimson drummers.

Saw them in concert on the WTTRW tour.


Hi Kev. :lol
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on July 07, 2019, 06:51:59 AM
 :lol :lol

The real question is, what bands didn't you see in the 80's? :P
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on July 07, 2019, 06:54:28 AM

Ya know, the more I think about it, I wonder if Wish would be a good choice given what you said. It's not as much doom-n-gloom as Disintegration, but there's still a good amount there. Since you said you're looking for more accessible songs and that you got bored, maybe Wild Mood Swings (which came after Wish) would be a better choice. The songs are shorter and there's a much wider variety of styles/sounds (hence the album title). That said, it's not the most highly favored album in the band's catalog by fans, but then again, The Cure's never been known as a "happy" band.

It'll probably be a while before I circle back around to them, but I will keep this in mind. :tup :tup
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Stadler on August 14, 2019, 07:49:20 AM
Not sure if this is the right place, but it does fit...

They dug deep; sure, the Cheap Trick hits are here, but there's also "Burn Me Up (I'm A Cigarette)" from WAY underrated solo album Daryl did with Robert Fripp, as well as my favorite Hall And Oates song, "Family Man".  Man can those two men still sing or what??

https://youtu.be/wsa3DUnWPPk
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: TAC on August 14, 2019, 09:32:01 AM
I hear Family Man on my work intercom music all the time.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Stadler on August 14, 2019, 10:32:33 AM
I'm not the hugest Daryl Hall and John Oates fan (if you watched the clip, you notice that Robin made a joke to that effect; during an interview with Dan Rather, Daryl made it a point to say that in his and John's mind, it's not a band called "Hall and Oates", it's a collaboration between two guys named "Daryl Hall" and "John Oates") but that is an ace song if you ask me.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on March 01, 2020, 01:15:52 PM
Update:

A lot of the early Simple Minds stuff looks like pretty highly-regarded, and it was recommended in this thread, but not much of it made a dent with me. I like a few songs from Sparkle in the Rain, but I am zoning out on everything else I heard.  Swing and a (mostly) miss. :(

I am not sure they were recommended in this thread, but I have heard some early New Order lately, which seems to be pretty good.  Power, Corruption & Lies has some really good songs, and the original version of the song Temptation is pretty rad (the more synth-heavy remake on Substance is also good, but the original seems better).
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Post by: Cool Chris on March 01, 2020, 02:08:52 PM
I couldn't name more than 3 New Order songs, but True Faith (a remixed version) and Blue Monday (2 remixed versions) have always been among the highlights and most listened to songs on my 80s dance playlist.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on March 01, 2020, 02:14:02 PM
Kev, you ever listen to Cutting Crew?
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: HOF on March 01, 2020, 02:16:19 PM
I’m here to plug The Blue Nile for your consideration. Hats is their synth-pop masterpiece, but the debut A Walk Across The Rooftops is a bit more experimental, has kind of a Peter Gabriel/Talking Heads vibe. Peter Gabriel was actually a big fan, and they are also a big influence on H era Marillion. Paul Buchanan is an amazing singer and songwriter that more people should definitely know.

Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on March 01, 2020, 03:22:00 PM
I couldn't name more than 3 New Order songs, but True Faith (a remixed version) and Blue Monday (2 remixed versions) have always been among the highlights and most listened to songs on my 80s dance playlist.

I never thought a lot of Blue Monday, but I will have to give it a fresh listen in light of my new liking for some of their early material.

Kev, you ever listen to Cutting Crew?

:lol, is that a serious question?  (considering we have discussed them in several threads on this forum including this one, as well as offline :P)
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on March 01, 2020, 03:23:20 PM
I'm old. I don't remember. lol. You have both their cd's?lol

Btw, you up for 1 hit wonders? Some albums are good.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on March 01, 2020, 03:29:23 PM
I have The Broadcast. The second one I remember as not being very good.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2020, 03:40:08 PM
Kev, you ever listen to Cutting Crew?

I have been working through the guitar parts on Died In Your Arms (all 4 of them) the last few days.  Not my normal style of song but it gets rather infectious - not quite as simple as it might sound from a guitar point of view and a very well constructed song.

EDIT: Sorry I forgot the 80s lingo - it's rad :)
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 01, 2020, 03:45:34 PM
Rad. Lol

The guitarist went on to play on Robert Plant's "Fate Of Nations" album.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Rad. Lol

The guitarist went on to play on Robert Plant's "Fate Of Nations" album.

I only used that cos Kev did above and I thought it might be compulsory  :biggrin:

I didn't know he played with Plant but he certainly comes up with some very tasteful stuff.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on March 01, 2020, 04:25:42 PM
Here is a band that I loved their debut album but slowly seemed to fizzle away.  The band is Frozen Ghost.

https://youtu.be/a50u6lcLsMY
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on March 01, 2020, 04:27:48 PM
The lead singer went on to become a big time producer.   This band came out of an older band Sherriff. 
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2020, 05:58:27 PM
The lead singer went on to become a big time producer.   This band came out of an older band Sherriff.

As did one of the classier AOR bands of the era - Alias
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on March 01, 2020, 06:08:21 PM
Rad. Lol


I only used that cos Kev did above and I thought it might be compulsory  :biggrin:

 :hat :hat
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: King Postwhore on March 01, 2020, 06:10:39 PM
The lead singer went on to become a big time producer.   This band came out of an older band Sherriff.

As did one of the classier AOR bands of the era - Alias

💯
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 02, 2020, 02:33:57 AM
I have The Broadcast. The second one I remember as not being very good.

I thought the second one was really good as well, it's the third one that was not very good.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: Stadler on March 02, 2020, 09:17:43 AM
The lead singer went on to become a big time producer.   This band came out of an older band Sherriff.

He was instrumental in the early years of Our Lady Peace.
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: T-ski on March 02, 2020, 03:12:10 PM
Here is a band that I loved their debut album but slowly seemed to fizzle away.  The band is Frozen Ghost.

https://youtu.be/a50u6lcLsMY

I remember this song.  Totally awesome!
Title: Re: Digging deeper into the 80's (pop and pop rock)
Post by: KevShmev on March 02, 2020, 07:01:06 PM
I have The Broadcast. The second one I remember as not being very good.

I thought the second one was really good as well, it's the third one that was not very good.

Glad you enjoyed it.  I wish I would have, given how much I liked the first.  Considering how pop rock-ish it is, there are tasty guitar licks all over The Broadcast.