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How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
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Umm, what?
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Posting in this thread is like getting in Ted Bundy's car.
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I’ll bite.
1) how many is many?
2) in what context did they like him?
3) to what degree did they like him?
4) before or after his public arrest?
5) what is normal?
Once you’ve answered those, we can talk.
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4) before or after his public arrest?
After.
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Many women liked Ted Bundy
How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
Do many women like you?
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Well, that guy always bangs I'll guess.
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Many women liked Ted Bundy
How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
Do many women like you?
Does it matter here? This is a thread about Ted Bundy and his appeal on women FFS, not about me and my appeal. I don't get what's your point.
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4) before or after his public arrest?
After.
You just ignored 75% of my questions. Have a fun thread.
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He was handsome, charismatic, supremely confident, and ballsy. Seems kind of simple to me.
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How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
Probably because he scored 4 touchdowns in a single game.
Oh wait.......
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Its common with a lot of serial killers. Its called hybristophilia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia
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Many women liked Ted Bundy
How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
Do many women like you?
Does it matter here? This is a thread about Ted Bundy and his appeal on women FFS, not about me and my appeal. I don't get what's your point.
Trying to gauge your "normal" benchmark.
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Funny, Ted really has no normal. And to me, this question is low on the totem pole. Some answers have no relevance to my life.
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Funny, Ted really has no normal. And to me, this question is low on the totem pole. Some answers have no relevance to my life.
I think it's kind of an interesting phenomenon. Not specifically Ted, he had plenty going for him, but maniacs in general. Richard Ramirez was a sick fuck, ugly as sin, and neither bright nor interesting. Insofar as serial killers go this guy was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Yet he had plenty of female admirers, including one that went on to marry him. He was certainly far more popular after he left the reservation than he was before. That's a curious phenomenon in my book.
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It really doesn't. How many women hook up with prison men? There's a population of women attracted to bad men. It's not rocket science.
Well, definitely some rocket.
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4) before or after his public arrest?
After.
You just ignored 75% of my questions. Have a fun thread.
:lol
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How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
Probably because he scored 4 touchdowns in a single game.
Oh wait.......
:tup
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Just looked up pics of the dude. Not a bad looking chap, but does anyone else kind of see a young Charles Grodin?
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Just looked up pics of the dude. Not a bad looking chap, but does anyone else kind of see a young Charles Grodin?
I’ll buy that.
Chicks did dig Bundy, no question about it.
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Not sure where this thread is going, but... it happens the other way too, with men falling in love and seeking marriage with female inmates.
Of course there can be benefits, as George Costanza realized, such as knowing where she is all the time, and having relatively no competition... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3s_tgXrcl8
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Sociopaths are often charming. And they use it to manipulate people. For example, Ted wore a sling or cast on his arm to draw women in who would wish to "help" him. He also worked on a suicide hotline while he was a psychology student at University of Washington. He outwardly exhibited traits that made him look empathetic and caring.
The phenomena of men and women being attracted to inmates is along the same line of being attracted to married and/or otherwise unavailable people. There is little chance of much complication because the inmates are unavailable for intimacy (I'm not talking about sex) and probably also because they have been damaged or abused as children or in other relationships. Men in prison cannot abuse the women who claim to want relationships with them. So in a way, it is safer for them.
Unless the guy gets paroled.
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For the record, men have also been unusually
horny for interested in female murderers (https://talkmurder.com/yuka-takaoka/), as well as future female dictators (https://web.archive.org/web/20200501223735/https://www.dailydot.com/debug/kim-yo-jong-stans/). Yes it's fucked up, but it isn't a one-sided thing, nor would I say it's common for either side.
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Posting in this thread is like getting in Ted Bundy's car.
Reading this comment to my wife:
Her: “Ya. Stupid and deadly” :rollin
But seriously. My wife pointed out that he definitely had a “type” that he went for. And if you weren’t that type? He could be very normal and likable. That’s why Ann Rule (the true crime author whose career started when she wrote about Bundy…whom she knew) was so shocked when this very nice man turned out to be a monster.
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Many women liked Ted Bundy
How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
Do many women like you?
Does it matter here? This is a thread about Ted Bundy and his appeal on women FFS, not about me and my appeal. I don't get what's your point.
His point is that you are a troll. Goodbye.
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Many women liked Ted Bundy
How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
Do many women like you?
Does it matter here? This is a thread about Ted Bundy and his appeal on women FFS, not about me and my appeal. I don't get what's your point.
His point is that you are a troll. Goodbye.
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-6ktgSR2gLEQ%2FUoctR8YcKOI%2FAAAAAAAAPCQ%2Fhq0tpTxcGeI%2Fs1600%2Fthumbs-up.gif&hash=d061ed8ffa886c819cf7a53a771e28f71be017cf)
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Sociopaths are often charming. And they use it to manipulate people. For example, Ted wore a sling or cast on his arm to draw women in who would wish to "help" him. He also worked on a suicide hotline while he was a psychology student at University of Washington. He outwardly exhibited traits that made him look empathetic and caring.
The phenomena of men and women being attracted to inmates is along the same line of being attracted to married and/or otherwise unavailable people. There is little chance of much complication because the inmates are unavailable for intimacy (I'm not talking about sex) and probably also because they have been damaged or abused as children or in other relationships. Men in prison cannot abuse the women who claim to want relationships with them. So in a way, it is safer for them.
Unless the guy gets paroled.
There's also the "wounded bird" thing, where some people have this need to care for certain others that gets sort of distorted beyond what one might consider reasonable.
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Many women liked Ted Bundy
How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
Do many women like you?
Does it matter here? This is a thread about Ted Bundy and his appeal on women FFS, not about me and my appeal. I don't get what's your point.
His point is that you are a troll. Goodbye.
:o
Did we just witness the end of an era here?
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So.... Wild Ranger is another victim of Ted Bundy?
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Bit of an overreaction, frankly. I've always found the people who bitch and moan about WR's posts far more disruptive than the posts themselves. Hell, the post cited was Hef taking a dig at him, which is par for the course around here. WR posts a question. The same five people rush in to tell him what a troll he is. The conversation picks up and people discuss it. RLR. Part of it sounds like the sort of thing you'd expect in a discussion forum. Part of it's just being a jerk.
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4) before or after his public arrest?
After.
You just ignored 75% of my questions. Have a fun thread.
Wasn't it 80%?
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WildRanger is back with a vengeance!
Many women liked Ted Bundy
How many women? "Liked" in what way?
How would you explain that phenomenon?
If I had any interest in explaining it, I'd google it: https://www.google.com/search?q=women+who+are+attracted+to+serial+killers&rlz=1C1GCEJ_enUS915US915&oq=women+who+are+attracted+to+serial+killers&aqs=chrome..69i57.12179j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.
Were those women normal?
Please define "normal."
His point is that you are a troll. Goodbye.
I hope that doesn't mean what it sounds like. :o
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4) before or after his public arrest?
After.
You just ignored 75% of my questions. Have a fun thread.
Wasn't it 80%?
Hah! I forgot I asked a 5th question. I assumed he just ignored the first 3. Good catch!
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Funny, Ted really has no normal. And to me, this question is low on the totem pole. Some answers have no relevance to my life.
I think it's kind of an interesting phenomenon. Not specifically Ted, he had plenty going for him, but maniacs in general. Richard Ramirez was a sick fuck, ugly as sin, and neither bright nor interesting. Insofar as serial killers go this guy was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Yet he had plenty of female admirers, including one that went on to marry him. He was certainly far more popular after he left the reservation than he was before. That's a curious phenomenon in my book.
It is an interesting phenomenon if one thinks on it objectively... and if one realizes that we are all (mankind) capable of the deeds these men and women serial killers perpetrate.
Even more to Bart's point regarding removing Bundy from the objective thought and replacing him with Ramirez (or Gacy, or Mansion, etc less attractive perps)... did these killers realize, on some base instinctual level, that they might garner the attention/"love" that they seek from others (be it sexual or non-sexual) by being viewed as depraved by society in general?
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Funny, Ted really has no normal. And to me, this question is low on the totem pole. Some answers have no relevance to my life.
I think it's kind of an interesting phenomenon. Not specifically Ted, he had plenty going for him, but maniacs in general. Richard Ramirez was a sick fuck, ugly as sin, and neither bright nor interesting. Insofar as serial killers go this guy was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Yet he had plenty of female admirers, including one that went on to marry him. He was certainly far more popular after he left the reservation than he was before. That's a curious phenomenon in my book.
It is an interesting phenomenon if one thinks on it objectively... and if one realizes that we are all (mankind) capable of the deeds these men and women serial killers perpetrate.
Even more to Bart's point regarding removing Bundy from the objective thought and replacing him with Ramirez (or Gacy, or Mansion, etc less attractive perps)... did these killers realize, on some base instinctual level, that they might garner the attention/"love" that they seek from others (be it sexual or non-sexual) by being viewed as depraved by society in general?
I don't know if it's a choice in search of something. Having read a fair amount about this, I gather that in many/most cases, it's an obsession that they cannot control, and in some cases even know, objectively that what they are doing is wrong, they just can't help the compulsion. I'm sure like anything else there are examples all across the spectrum, but I do get the "compulsion" thing.
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Funny, Ted really has no normal. And to me, this question is low on the totem pole. Some answers have no relevance to my life.
I think it's kind of an interesting phenomenon. Not specifically Ted, he had plenty going for him, but maniacs in general. Richard Ramirez was a sick fuck, ugly as sin, and neither bright nor interesting. Insofar as serial killers go this guy was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Yet he had plenty of female admirers, including one that went on to marry him. He was certainly far more popular after he left the reservation than he was before. That's a curious phenomenon in my book.
It is an interesting phenomenon if one thinks on it objectively... and if one realizes that we are all (mankind) capable of the deeds these men and women serial killers perpetrate.
Even more to Bart's point regarding removing Bundy from the objective thought and replacing him with Ramirez (or Gacy, or Mansion, etc less attractive perps)... did these killers realize, on some base instinctual level, that they might garner the attention/"love" that they seek from others (be it sexual or non-sexual) by being viewed as depraved by society in general?
I don't know if it's a choice in search of something. Having read a fair amount about this, I gather that in many/most cases, it's an obsession that they cannot control, and in some cases even know, objectively that what they are doing is wrong, they just can't help the compulsion. I'm sure like anything else there are examples all across the spectrum, but I do get the "compulsion" thing.
There's also the possibility of some, er, peculiar rationalizing. Ramirez married one of his admirers and they remained married for [I think] nine years. I'm pretty sure he fathered a child with her, as well. Ramirez raped and murdered octogenarians, and she seemed to have no problem with it. What fascinates me is that she cut off all contact when she learned that a little girl was one of his victims, citing disgust with his actions. Raping and murdering the elderly is acceptable to her, but only a sick fuck would do the same to children? This is a value judgement that intrigues me. It suggests that her values may well be closer to his than that of what we typically consider normal society's.
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Many women liked Ted Bundy
How would you explain that phenomenon?
Were those women normal?
Do many women like you?
Does it matter here? This is a thread about Ted Bundy and his appeal on women FFS, not about me and my appeal. I don't get what's your point.
His point is that you are a troll. Goodbye.
Well, to be fair, that wasn't my EXACT point.
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Funny, Ted really has no normal. And to me, this question is low on the totem pole. Some answers have no relevance to my life.
I think it's kind of an interesting phenomenon. Not specifically Ted, he had plenty going for him, but maniacs in general. Richard Ramirez was a sick fuck, ugly as sin, and neither bright nor interesting. Insofar as serial killers go this guy was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Yet he had plenty of female admirers, including one that went on to marry him. He was certainly far more popular after he left the reservation than he was before. That's a curious phenomenon in my book.
It is an interesting phenomenon if one thinks on it objectively... and if one realizes that we are all (mankind) capable of the deeds these men and women serial killers perpetrate.
Even more to Bart's point regarding removing Bundy from the objective thought and replacing him with Ramirez (or Gacy, or Mansion, etc less attractive perps)... did these killers realize, on some base instinctual level, that they might garner the attention/"love" that they seek from others (be it sexual or non-sexual) by being viewed as depraved by society in general?
I don't know if it's a choice in search of something. Having read a fair amount about this, I gather that in many/most cases, it's an obsession that they cannot control, and in some cases even know, objectively that what they are doing is wrong, they just can't help the compulsion. I'm sure like anything else there are examples all across the spectrum, but I do get the "compulsion" thing.
There's also the possibility of some, er, peculiar rationalizing. Ramirez married one of his admirers and they remained married for [I think] nine years. I'm pretty sure he fathered a child with her, as well. Ramirez raped and murdered octogenarians, and she seemed to have no problem with it. What fascinates me is that she cut off all contact when she learned that a little girl was one of his victims, citing disgust with his actions. Raping and murdering the elderly is acceptable to her, but only a sick fuck would do the same to children? This is a value judgement that intrigues me. It suggests that her values may well be closer to his than that of what we typically consider normal society's.
The bold above somewhat circles-back to the premise that everyone is capable of these types of acts I think. Perhaps more people in society have embraced that opinion and are more in-touch with that dark-self than we "normies" tend to believe.
I remember watching a YT documentary on Ed Gein a few years ago and being stunned a bit by how nonchalant Ed was... he just took what happened in stride as far as I could see from the photos.
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Funny, Ted really has no normal. And to me, this question is low on the totem pole. Some answers have no relevance to my life.
I think it's kind of an interesting phenomenon. Not specifically Ted, he had plenty going for him, but maniacs in general. Richard Ramirez was a sick fuck, ugly as sin, and neither bright nor interesting. Insofar as serial killers go this guy was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Yet he had plenty of female admirers, including one that went on to marry him. He was certainly far more popular after he left the reservation than he was before. That's a curious phenomenon in my book.
It is an interesting phenomenon if one thinks on it objectively... and if one realizes that we are all (mankind) capable of the deeds these men and women serial killers perpetrate.
Even more to Bart's point regarding removing Bundy from the objective thought and replacing him with Ramirez (or Gacy, or Mansion, etc less attractive perps)... did these killers realize, on some base instinctual level, that they might garner the attention/"love" that they seek from others (be it sexual or non-sexual) by being viewed as depraved by society in general?
I don't know if it's a choice in search of something. Having read a fair amount about this, I gather that in many/most cases, it's an obsession that they cannot control, and in some cases even know, objectively that what they are doing is wrong, they just can't help the compulsion. I'm sure like anything else there are examples all across the spectrum, but I do get the "compulsion" thing.
There's also the possibility of some, er, peculiar rationalizing. Ramirez married one of his admirers and they remained married for [I think] nine years. I'm pretty sure he fathered a child with her, as well. Ramirez raped and murdered octogenarians, and she seemed to have no problem with it. What fascinates me is that she cut off all contact when she learned that a little girl was one of his victims, citing disgust with his actions. Raping and murdering the elderly is acceptable to her, but only a sick fuck would do the same to children? This is a value judgement that intrigues me. It suggests that her values may well be closer to his than that of what we typically consider normal society's.
The bold above somewhat circles-back to the premise that everyone is capable of these types of acts I think. Perhaps more people in society have embraced that opinion and are more in-touch with that dark-self than we "normies" tend to believe.
I remember watching a YT documentary on Ed Gein a few years ago and being stunned a bit by how nonchalant Ed was... he just took what happened in stride as far as I could see from the photos.
I'm not saying you're saying this, but I know that I won't go that far that we're all capable of that. We're not. I hear that a lot in the identity politics realm; "oh we're ALL a little homosexual". Well, no, we're not. I'm a lot of things, I'm attracted to certain things - some I'll share, some I won't - but for whatever reason, my sexual continuum doesn't include men. It just doesn't. I didn't choose that, I didn't train for that, it just is. I think to a significant degree, that's a way of normalizing what some - rightly or wrongly - might think is "not normal" (in quotes not because I think homosexuality is not normal - it is - but that we're talking about a paradigm). I think the continuum of our tolerance for abuse of another human is similar to that, but it doesn't mean we can ALL do that. I know for me, I have a hard time with death; I like to talk a big game about being ready willing and able to defend myself and my family if need be, but if I'm being honest I don't know that I COULD do that.
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Funny, Ted really has no normal. And to me, this question is low on the totem pole. Some answers have no relevance to my life.
I think it's kind of an interesting phenomenon. Not specifically Ted, he had plenty going for him, but maniacs in general. Richard Ramirez was a sick fuck, ugly as sin, and neither bright nor interesting. Insofar as serial killers go this guy was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Yet he had plenty of female admirers, including one that went on to marry him. He was certainly far more popular after he left the reservation than he was before. That's a curious phenomenon in my book.
It is an interesting phenomenon if one thinks on it objectively... and if one realizes that we are all (mankind) capable of the deeds these men and women serial killers perpetrate.
Even more to Bart's point regarding removing Bundy from the objective thought and replacing him with Ramirez (or Gacy, or Mansion, etc less attractive perps)... did these killers realize, on some base instinctual level, that they might garner the attention/"love" that they seek from others (be it sexual or non-sexual) by being viewed as depraved by society in general?
I don't know if it's a choice in search of something. Having read a fair amount about this, I gather that in many/most cases, it's an obsession that they cannot control, and in some cases even know, objectively that what they are doing is wrong, they just can't help the compulsion. I'm sure like anything else there are examples all across the spectrum, but I do get the "compulsion" thing.
There's also the possibility of some, er, peculiar rationalizing. Ramirez married one of his admirers and they remained married for [I think] nine years. I'm pretty sure he fathered a child with her, as well. Ramirez raped and murdered octogenarians, and she seemed to have no problem with it. What fascinates me is that she cut off all contact when she learned that a little girl was one of his victims, citing disgust with his actions. Raping and murdering the elderly is acceptable to her, but only a sick fuck would do the same to children? This is a value judgement that intrigues me. It suggests that her values may well be closer to his than that of what we typically consider normal society's.
The bold above somewhat circles-back to the premise that everyone is capable of these types of acts I think. Perhaps more people in society have embraced that opinion and are more in-touch with that dark-self than we "normies" tend to believe.
I remember watching a YT documentary on Ed Gein a few years ago and being stunned a bit by how nonchalant Ed was... he just took what happened in stride as far as I could see from the photos.
I'm not saying you're saying this, but I know that I won't go that far that we're all capable of that. We're not. I hear that a lot in the identity politics realm; "oh we're ALL a little homosexual". Well, no, we're not. I'm a lot of things, I'm attracted to certain things - some I'll share, some I won't - but for whatever reason, my sexual continuum doesn't include men. It just doesn't. I didn't choose that, I didn't train for that, it just is. I think to a significant degree, that's a way of normalizing what some - rightly or wrongly - might think is "not normal" (in quotes not because I think homosexuality is not normal - it is - but that we're talking about a paradigm). I think the continuum of our tolerance for abuse of another human is similar to that, but it doesn't mean we can ALL do that.
Being able to is a far cry from being understanding of. I couldn't do what any of these guys did, but I'm probably more sympathetic to them than most simply by virtue of my worldview. To me it's plausible that people could be far more so, and I can't hold that against them. That doesn't mean that I or necessarily the women in question are approving of their actions, but simply understanding of them and less apt to hold them against the maniac in question.
I know for me, I have a hard time with death; I like to talk a big game about being ready willing and able to defend myself and my family if need be, but if I'm being honest I don't know that I COULD do that.
Out of curiosity, what's the basis of the doubt? How you would react in a crisis situation, or the ethical dilemma of taking another life? If I deemed it necessary and appropriate I wouldn't have any trouble killing somebody. Practical ramifications would probably be more concerning to me than the ethical. At the same time, I have no idea if I would be able to apply that in practice. Perhaps I perform well in a split second reaction, and perhaps I choke and come down with a case of Glock leg. Ideally I never have to find out.
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I know for me, I have a hard time with death; I like to talk a big game about being ready willing and able to defend myself and my family if need be, but if I'm being honest I don't know that I COULD do that.
Out of curiosity, what's the basis of the doubt? How you would react in a crisis situation, or the ethical dilemma of taking another life? If I deemed it necessary and appropriate I wouldn't have any trouble killing somebody. Practical ramifications would probably be more concerning to me than the ethical. At the same time, I have no idea if I would be able to apply that in practice. Perhaps I perform well in a split second reaction, and perhaps I choke and come down with a case of Glock leg. Ideally I never have to find out.
I think you got it mostly right; I'm smart enough to know that in those instances, "hesitation" is not your friend. It's not the general need to act; I've done the Heimlich maneuver twice (once on my daughter and once on my ex-wife) and there was little hesitation and I even remembered the steps to take (check the airway, etc.) I worry I would have that "hitch" as I think about what we say about cops: "is this necessary? Is there any other option?" I don't think I would be fraught with grief over ventilating a scum bag, but I would beat myself up on the what ifs. But like you said, who knows, and I hope I never find out.
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Guys like Ted Bundy are masters of manipulation. He could probably make any average person like him until someone smart enough to see through his bullshit came along.
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Guys like Ted Bundy are masters of manipulation. He could probably make any average person like him until someone smart enough to see through his bullshit came along.
This is no doubt true, but once he's in prison people have to seek him out for that chance to be manipulated. That's the curious part.
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4) before or after his public arrest?
After.
You just ignored 75% of my questions. Have a fun thread.
Wasn't it 80%?
:lol :lol
So.... Wild Ranger is another victim of Ted Bundy?
:rollin
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Funny, Ted really has no normal. And to me, this question is low on the totem pole. Some answers have no relevance to my life.
I think it's kind of an interesting phenomenon. Not specifically Ted, he had plenty going for him, but maniacs in general. Richard Ramirez was a sick fuck, ugly as sin, and neither bright nor interesting. Insofar as serial killers go this guy was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Yet he had plenty of female admirers, including one that went on to marry him. He was certainly far more popular after he left the reservation than he was before. That's a curious phenomenon in my book.
It is an interesting phenomenon if one thinks on it objectively... and if one realizes that we are all (mankind) capable of the deeds these men and women serial killers perpetrate.
Even more to Bart's point regarding removing Bundy from the objective thought and replacing him with Ramirez (or Gacy, or Mansion, etc less attractive perps)... did these killers realize, on some base instinctual level, that they might garner the attention/"love" that they seek from others (be it sexual or non-sexual) by being viewed as depraved by society in general?
I don't know if it's a choice in search of something. Having read a fair amount about this, I gather that in many/most cases, it's an obsession that they cannot control, and in some cases even know, objectively that what they are doing is wrong, they just can't help the compulsion. I'm sure like anything else there are examples all across the spectrum, but I do get the "compulsion" thing.
There's also the possibility of some, er, peculiar rationalizing. Ramirez married one of his admirers and they remained married for [I think] nine years. I'm pretty sure he fathered a child with her, as well. Ramirez raped and murdered octogenarians, and she seemed to have no problem with it. What fascinates me is that she cut off all contact when she learned that a little girl was one of his victims, citing disgust with his actions. Raping and murdering the elderly is acceptable to her, but only a sick fuck would do the same to children? This is a value judgement that intrigues me. It suggests that her values may well be closer to his than that of what we typically consider normal society's.
The bold above somewhat circles-back to the premise that everyone is capable of these types of acts I think. Perhaps more people in society have embraced that opinion and are more in-touch with that dark-self than we "normies" tend to believe.
I remember watching a YT documentary on Ed Gein a few years ago and being stunned a bit by how nonchalant Ed was... he just took what happened in stride as far as I could see from the photos.
I'm not saying you're saying this, but I know that I won't go that far that we're all capable of that. We're not. I hear that a lot in the identity politics realm; "oh we're ALL a little homosexual". Well, no, we're not. I'm a lot of things, I'm attracted to certain things - some I'll share, some I won't - but for whatever reason, my sexual continuum doesn't include men. It just doesn't. I didn't choose that, I didn't train for that, it just is. I think to a significant degree, that's a way of normalizing what some - rightly or wrongly - might think is "not normal" (in quotes not because I think homosexuality is not normal - it is - but that we're talking about a paradigm). I think the continuum of our tolerance for abuse of another human is similar to that, but it doesn't mean we can ALL do that. I know for me, I have a hard time with death; I like to talk a big game about being ready willing and able to defend myself and my family if need be, but if I'm being honest I don't know that I COULD do that.
I'm not sure that I'd agree with the comparison to the sexual in this instance... though sexuality is a presence in almost all of this types of cases I would think. I would argue that the sexual component of most of these cases is a means-to-an-end leading to the murder/death/chaos aspect of these types of actions. Perhaps it's not the sexual appetites in the end that drives the acts, but the taste for the acts themselves. I think that we're all capable of developing these tastes/dispositions over time... perhaps lead into them by other tastes that we can develop (see Bundy's last interview) or by the influence of the immediate environment.
When I say "we" I mean humanity in general,
I read an interesting book a few years ago titled Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland; the book is in some ways a study of the conditions necessary to lead a person down the path of atrocity. "The architypes are in us and eternal" as Charles Lamb said... though he was speaking specifically about a different type of evil.
Perhaps a more clear way to state my thought is that the potential for this is in all of us... but the conditions must be "right" to draw-out the action.